NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - They are Who We Thought They Were!

Episode Date: September 19, 2017

A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Colleen Wolfe & Gregg Rosenthal recap all the latest news from around the NFL including the LA Chargers decision to keep Younghoe Koo, Jason Garrett’s meeting with Ezekiel Elliot after his interception, and Corey Coleman’s hand surgery. The first week of the Subreddit super contest starts NOW and the heroes test our listener’s knowledge.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Fail little heroes. Mark Sessler, Connie Fox, and Greg Rosethal. What's up, people? Hey. Nice. Greg, you don't like the narrative of the drop. I didn't push that. I didn't push that on society.

I don't mind it at all. My parents now live there. They move there after I went to college. And my brother and his wife now live there. Do that? You know you're going to end up there. And you're going to have a shared complex. You're being funneled there.

I can promise you for the rest of my life, there will not be one. one day where I live in Massachusetts. Do you know what I believe that? That's been decided. I actually do believe that. Of course. Yeah, you're not going to. It's cold.

It's not, there's no point in moving back. Terrible place. It's an island with my family living on it. Gross. What if the Patriots finally reel you in and employ you in some capacity? You're going to be driving from New Hampshire or Maine? I can't imagine what I could possibly do to help them. Yes, this is the Around the NFL podcast presented, of course, by head and shoulders.

What a great product. And speaking, great product, this is going to be a great product today, a show in which we have so much to get to, so much to get to, folks. We got to go over the Monday night football. Exciting. We're going to go over some news. That's good. We're going to, what else are we going to do?

We're going to talk Thursday night. We're going to touch on Thursday night football. And guess what? What? Regala. Sub Reddit Super Contest. debuts debuts today!

Ow! Today! That's my chair. My chair makes funny noises. Sure it does. Well, it could also wrap today if someone were to succeed, correct? It could wrap today.

It could be one and done. Yes, I'll explain it when we get to it, but this contest only lasts as long as our listeners are sharp. If that makes sense. As long as they are not sharp. If they're not sharp, this can go on for it. It could actually ruin the podcast potentially. Yeah.

Where it will just shipwreck the Thursday show going into indefinite status. Greg will probably have a meltdown at a certain point. We're like in mid-June on like contestant 806. First, what we're trying to say is the first person to win the subreddit Super Contest. Contest ends. We only got one grand prize to come.

They don't give us any money. There's no budget for this show. Did you buy the prize yourself? I don't even want to get into it. Okay. I think it's going to happen today. I'm going to be disappointed with our listeners if they can't, if they can't get this done. Yeah.

All right. And yeah, so much to get to. and I want to get to it all. But I do want to share, you know, every once in a while I like to throw out slogans for the NFL. You know, things, you got to keep the product fresh. I know it's a $12 billion megacorp, but you got to keep the product fresh. And that's why they don't come to me, but I sometimes submit a slogan that I run by you guys first. It's a workshop situation.

Here's the first one. You ready? Football. It trumps politics. thoughts. Huh. Any good? Yes or no?

You don't have to... I mean, it feels a little... It's a little off-the-grid PC-wise for the league to adopt and kind of shuttle that out nationwide. I like it personally. Does it normalize? I think in a way you're trying to say

it's beyond politics, but it ultimately brings up politics, and I think they're trying to... It fails in that... It's sort of multiple ways. Okay, okay. Here's another one. Football, colon.

A Sunday activity for people no longer on speaking terms, with God. Much better. I like that one much better. Thoughts. Again, on the nose in terms of being a very controversial kind of lead-in, but... Oh, yeah.

Two things you're not supposed to bring up in polite conversation, religion or politics. Yeah. So let's scrap that one, Greg? Might be a little word. You seem to agree with it on a fundamental level, great. No. No, I think you can marry both of those things together, though. All right, all right.

I feel good about the last one. Here we go. I hope so. The NFL, nectar for lovers. No, that I like. Yeah. Who's arguing with that? Seems a little weird.

A little creepy. I mean, I like the, I like the whole kind of vibe of it. All right. Activate emergency frags appearance. Maybe it'll work better if I'm not saying it. Oh. Get her on the fence. There she is.

That's a woman right there. We love her. Frags. We need your help here. Okay, here we go. Firming gender. Here we go. The NFL.

Necter for lovers. There we go. I mean, that's going to the league office. I'd be fine if Frags just sat around my backyard reading off a Chinese menu with that voice. I don't know if, you know, my wife or, you know, most people would really agree with football as an aphrodisiac. Right. Yeah. Concept.

Well, it's one of those things where you could read into it however you want. There are case studies to argue against it, but I like it. Because you're going at a certain way, and that says a lot about you, like, the way you look at life. But I'm saying, like, nectar as in something that you both, it's like, nourishment. It would be shared. It brings people together. Shared by lovers.

Sure. I mean, it's like mostly friends, though, watching games, right? Yeah. Well, friends that maybe could lead some more. Frags, your thoughts? Frags, like, I only said one minute, Dan. It's weird. She's so angry.

There's no reason I always asked before, but somehow I still get roped into doing it. All right, Frags, thank you. That was the emergency Frags appearance. It was activated. Thank you, Frags. No problem. All right, bye. Okay.

So I'll send that one off to the league office, see how it goes on. I'll get back to you if it gets... Send it off to Mother League. Let's start the show. Just a reminder, by the way, the live stream of this show, this around the NFL podcast can be found at 6 p.m. Pacific, 9 p.m. Eastern on NFL.com slash ATN video. Is it still called a live stream if it's not live?

I don't know. I mean, listen, society, this business fudge is... Right. And then if you don't find it then, you can go back in... Good ethical. issue to raise. That's fair. All right, let's get to Monday Night Football. There it is. The rookie Agnew back. That's a rocket.

Makes the catch, boy, he had to catch that coming down to the turf. Agnew splitting a couple of tacklers. There he goes, 3540. He's in the clear. Jamal Agnew. He's gone. Touchdown, Detroit Lion. How about that, rookie? Ooh, Jamal Agnew silenced MetLife Stadium and the old Zeuser, let's face it, an 88-yard punt return, the final score and a 24-10 win for the Detroit lines over the New York Giants who still have a ton of issues

to work out on the offensive side of the ball and the entire country got a view of it on Monday night. Greg, we'll start with you because, you know what, I have to. We had to lock off. We locked it off and I will accept my fate as a loser this time around. You saw the Lions winning this game and they did

it rather handle it. I did and I'm impressed. You know, you're here. You know, your character's not tested when things are going well. when you have an embarrassing lock-off defeat like that, because this wasn't close. Even though it took a special team's touchdown to make it a two-score game, it felt like the Lions were in control.

They were able to move the ball when they needed to against a very good Giants defense. And more to the point. This Giants defense has fallen down seven points. That's a deficit. I don't know if they can come back from right now because they're not going up against great defenses of the NFL in Dallas and Detroit in the first two weeks.

And yet, they just cannot move the ball. They can't protect Eli Manning. They can't even try to run the ball. And it's very similar to what we saw for much of last year, and I don't know where the solutions are. Yeah, my note on Eli Manning, which I did during the game, I called him a wooden toy soldier stuck in a nighttime hurricane. Like, I just feel like watching this Giants team on offense.

So he's just like flying in the air. I mean, part of it is on Eli Manning not making some throws that he clearly needs to make. But secondly, I mean, how many sacks did he take last night? Five. Just brutalized. And you do not see this in proving for them. Eric Flowers, everyone on that line has issues. It was sort of a mess the whole time for him because you look at that first half,

Beckham and Brandon Marshall were only targeted three times in the first half. They couldn't get anything going at all. And it was amazing because you're watching it right up against Matt Stafford, who is extending plays, he's scrambling out of the pocket. He looks really good. His stats don't really show how well he played. They didn't need to lean on the pass in the second half at all, really. I thought Amir Abdul also, finally, I saw a game from him where he started to heat up as the game continued.

Giants, yeah, Matt Stafford only threw for 122 yards. And the Giants, it's a perfect storm, maybe a nighttime hurricane for them right now, because you have an immobile quarterback who can evade a rush, can't extend plays like we saw Matthew Stafford did, an offensive line that's a mess. And then to top it off, and I'm, you know, I defend Eli, but I think it's a, a group meltdown because then he got Brandon Marshall who's playing like he's 38 years. Totally out of sync. He had big drop.

A lot of drops again. That game ended when Brandon Marshall dropped what should have, it should have been 1710 Giants in Lions territory with the first and 10, probably around the 30 yard line. He drops the third down past, perfectly placed by Eli. Yep. And then on the subsequent play, a punt for the touchdown game over. Ingram the tight end, who made, who made some plays and he looks promising. He had a bad drop as well.

Odell had a drop that. Odell had a drop at the end of the game. Not a great pass, but I think it's lazy, and I don't think you watch the game if you just say, oh, Eli stinks. That's why the Giants stinks. This is a nighttime hurricane. But here's the thing with Eli.

He's a very limited quarterback. So, yes, you're like, okay, he's not mobile. You've got to have a better line around him. Well, that's true, but 27 other quarterbacks in the league are more mobile than him. And if you look, for instance, at the pro football focus, past blocking ratings the last two weeks, it hasn't been great. But I don't think they're the worst. pass-blocking team in the league.

If you look at it, all those sacks happened in the first half and then that first drive of the second half, Eli competed. He played better, but he's a limited quarterback who doesn't really go down the field very well anymore and doesn't evade the rush anymore. So those are two things against you. His ceiling is very, is middle. You're hoping that he can be in the middle. But it's not in a vacuum.

The reason why the sacks stopped in the second half and the reason why he wasn't throwing down field is they had to change their game plan and have quick routes, quick passes, which takes a whole part of their offense out of it. I'm not making excuses for real life. Two or three in the sacks were on him, and he wouldn't admit that. Any one of these NFL teams, when you simply have zero ground game, give me a break with Paul Perkins in the running attack. He's averaging 1.9 yards over the course of the season so far.

You are a completely imbalanced offense. You know who seems to be upset, Colleen? Who? At the quarterback is Ben McAdoo. Coach, what happened on the delay of game, penalty in the end zone on fourth down? A sloppy quarterback play. Quarterback in the center need to be on the same page there.

We got to get the ball snap. Why didn't you call a timeout? I think that would have a veteran quarterback who's played a lot of football. I expect us to get the ball snap. How would you have to see all the playing overall? Some good moments and some moments that weren't what we were looking for. You know, I didn't like the interception when we got the turnover.

The defense took the ball away. You know, it happened fast for him. I thought he should have went to number two or checked the ball down. He was under duress all night. I thought he did some good things in the pocket, making some plays under duress. But, you know, the whole offense needs work. We're not in rhythm right now. Not in rhythm at all.

That's an understatement. It's been really hard to watch the Giants' first two games. And it's almost like Eric Flowers is going to get blamed for a lot of the offensive line issues and a lot of the offensive problems. that they had last night. But there's so much blame to go around whether it's how much do you want to put on the offensive line on Eli, on the receiver's dropping passes, on Paul Perkins, and on Ben McAdoo as a play caller.

Right. Eli played much better, I thought, on Monday Night Football than he did in week one. We should give credit, though, to a Lions team that is different than it was a year ago, that they can win a game like this where they're running the ball and counting on their defense. It shouldn't be underrated that Zygianza was not himself last year and he's back to being a really good pass record. Darius Slay is probably the best player on their defense.

He wasn't there last year. He's back now making big plays. Amir Abdullah wasn't there last year. Matthew Stafford, most importantly, is now a guy, I think, where you know what you're getting on a week-to-week basis. The gains that he made last year and really since our old friend Jim Bob Cooter arrived have stayed. Like he is a top 10. He looks great.

He really does. He is a guy who makes good decisions now on a week-to-week basis. It reminds me a little bit of Ben Rathlisberger, who later in his career, I think the mental part of the game caught up with some of his physicals. I mean, I think another arrival, Bob Quinn, the general manager, you're starting to see some of his draft picks contribute. I mean, it starts with a guy like Jamal Agnew last night

that absolutely sealed that game. I think Jared Davis, their linebacker, the first round guy, is playing well too. I mean, the Lions for years could not solve their own problems, whether it was the offensive line, the running game, whatever. And when they can finally start to hit on some draft picks, the Lions can be taken seriously. I like this Lion's team. But it was fair for us not to take them seriously for a long, long time.

This is a bit of a different team. I think they were a lucky 9-win team last year, but they could be a legit 9-10 win team this year where they're much better even if the record is done. How about win that division for once? How about give a little credit? They basically skipped half the summer and who's looking fresher than the line? I think it's a model for us to follow potentially, just as O'Dell Beckham did when he basically. basically didn't participate in training camp or the early part of the season.

Maybe we're rolling around week five and see how things go. Week eight, why not? Week eight, yeah. Catch a tail end. The Lions 2 and O, the Giants O and 2, and facing a must-win situation next week. Let's move on and talk a little. Oh, it's a little news. Hi, Georgie.

What a nice boat. Do you want it back? that is so creepy we um me mark and jason zumwalt saw that film uh friday night dad date dad date because i i i hate clowns i fear clowns you know yeah i know try to taunt me in my text but at the end of the day you have to face your fears it's just like the movie the movie's about the only way to avoid the death of the clown is to face the clown and show you're not afraid of it that's why i went to the movie and i don't sleep well listen dan did i did sleep well after that movie, but Dan, you know, he basically sat right between Jason and I. Jason, a big guy,

he could protect him. On my side, I was just looking out for any sort of not, Dan, Dan went through a lot in that film, though. I cannot, I'm shocked by this, that you actually went and saw this movie. It helped that Mark at one point got up and bought us another round of liquor. Fair. Fair. Fair. Yeah. Um, do you going to see that movie, Greg? Eventually. Probably not in the theater. Oh, I am not. You got to face the fear, or he's going to get you. Yeah, you have to go ahead on. I'm good. I'm already, like, pretty anxious as a person. I don't need to sit in a movie theater and face my fear or whatever it is of clowns and watch a horror movie.

That's one way to go through life. Face those fears. I'm trying to avoid extra stress at all costs. Okay, fair enough. Let's do some news, and we'll start with, oh, Young Way Koo, the Chargers kicker. Mark, you were there in person, and we'll get to that in a little bit. When Koo missed the field goal that should have given the Chargers the win against the Dolphins on Sunday, wondered about his fate.

Well, Los Angeles Chargers head coach Anthony Lynn said he is sticking with a kicker. And as things stand, the Chargers have no plans to bring in competition. He missed the 44-yarder wide right on Sunday. The coach did not do him any favors. In that attempt, he had his 41-yard attempt blocked the previous week. Greg, good decision to stick with the kid. Well, I'm happy for him. And, you know, for everyone rooting for this kid, I think it's a one-week stay.

You're not going to go. Is he the kicker of ATL? Why not? He's on my fantasy team, that's for sure. We always seem to have to have some kicker lodging that position. Yeah, moved on for McGuire. I do like that Lynn is just, like, he's been like, this guy's got ice in his veins.

I got no worries about him. Like, he's just, like, presenting a very public bit of confidence. But I would imagine if there's one more bad game he's gone. I like the story that our man behind the glass saw, Christian Anderson mentioned, in the locker room after the game, when everyone wanted to go after Koo and ask them burning questions that would have been tough to answer. Corey legit stepped in, said, I got you.

I'll answer questions for you and excused him from the locker room and took his bag out, it carried his bag out as well. I mean, there are these little things that you do to stick together as a locker room, and I don't like the idea of blowing up your kicker after two weeks. And who are you going to bring off the streets that's going to save you? That's a great gesture by a teammate, but the thing that sucks about being a kicker is at the end of the day, you're back on the field and it's just you.

It's such a hard job. That's scarier than clowns being a kicker in the NFL. Well, the blocked kick, week one, I mean, there's nothing he could, that wasn't really his fault. No. It was blocked. But Anthony Lynn said that he can have a bad play, but he just can't have a bad day. And so he did have a bad day, though.

If he has another bad day, that's probably it. He missed one earlier. And he seems to have ice in his veins. He was a guest on the Bill Simmons podcast. and doesn't seem like he's letting everything bother him. But the reality is he's a superstar to many. I mean, he's a huge deal in the Korean community. And I would say the Asian community in general,

it hit me because I looked at like our page views from a month back just on a random week. And literally the second highest red story of the entire week behind power rankings was Ku making the Chargers. And that speaks to how much he made. means to a lot of people that are like rooting for them that he's their kicker and you hope that he doesn't feel that on his shoulder he's like this year's jared pain from last year's jared pain i mean it's perfect it's in l-a it's in the best korea town you know in the world other than

you know korea how often do you dig into the archives of the metrics i'm just curious i get like an email uh and i think i was checking on one specific i get an email i think weekly or something i never really look at it okay moving on the fascinating behind the scenes look for our listening What a peek behind the curtain. Ziegiel Elliott had his worst game as a pro. We're moving on, by the way. Ziegle Elliott had his worst game as a pro in Denver on Sunday, shut down completely.

And some people argued that he shut it down. He shut it down. I'm trying to hit the word the right way to really nail that transition. He was shut down on Sunday. And some people said he shut it down, mainly on an interception that he didn't choose to chase down the guy picking the pass up. There was another play, I guess, his effort question.

Two of them. Two interceptions. So he just kind of, you know, you can make that argument. Some people are fired up. Jason Garrett was asked about whether he would speak with his star running back, about his lack of effort. Well, one of the things is the foundation of our football team is fight. We're going to compete and fight, scratch and claw. That's what we're going to be.

And that's one of the reasons we love Zeke Elliott. That's what he is. Watch him play. He competes. He battles. And again, those plays were uncharacteristic of him. So we'll certainly address it with him. him. We have to address that with our entire team. That's not the way we play.

How is this team going to react when adversity hits because it never happened last year and we'll see what happens this time around, Colleen? Yeah, it's not a good luck at all for Ezekiel Elliott. And I know this morning on Good Morning Football, Mike Garofalo had said that he's talked to some people in the league and that basically the entire legal situation at this point is really weighing on him and you're sort of seeing some of that now. You still run after the ball. This is football.

Right. Yeah. I'm not, I mean, I'm not saying that that's the right thing to do, but I'm saying that, yeah, it is an excuse. And it's not a particularly strong one. Oh, I disagree. It's a major. Shocker.

I mean, I, of course you have to go run after it and you have to give effort, but it's putting your head in the sand to not think that this story is a huge weight on this entire team, especially Ezekiel Elliott. Like, his most embarrassing details have come out as part of this legal back and forth. He doesn't know if he's going to play next week. He doesn't know if he's going to be put out for six straight weeks. This guy's believed he's a superstar rising. And he's one of the most important players on the team.

So this story, I can only... Is anyone arguing that? That this is weighing on the team? It has to be weighing them. That's what I'm saying. Like that in Dallas, I just can only imagine what it's like. the Cowboys have the most, like, this is a daily thing. And no one knows what the answer is.

Like, no one knows if he's going to be suspended or not. Well, one, one quick thing on the football side of it, watching Denver attack and sort of dominate that Cowboys line, that's something we didn't see last year. I mean, they went after Zeke and they successfully took him out of that game. That's a big challenge for Dallas to overcome. In general, I believe in windows, not just teams getting older windows, but striking while the Iron is hot, that Cowboy team had everything go right.

They couldn't get it to the last game. of the season. And now you've got to see how they react when things aren't going in their direction on every, on a weekly basis. Let's move on. Ooh. Let's check in, Mark. A little factory of sadness check in.

The Cleveland Brown's 0 and 2. And Corey Coleman, their first round pick from last year, who broke his hand last year. He broke his hand again. Is it the same time a year? Was it week two last time? But this time at the hand, he needs surgery. And there are the Akron Beacon Journal reports that Coleman is expected to be placed on injured reserve and that would cost him at least eight weeks and obviously perhaps more depending how

he heals your thoughts on this mark well i mean we've talked about cleveland because of the presence of doshan kaiser as this potentially for the first time in eons kind of a fun frisky team that might be more enjoyable to watch all of that would have been contingent on i number one for cleveland because this has been the case year after year is having your young star players in quotes, stay healthy. And in that game, you lose Coleman, their wide receiver crew now is down to absolute bare bones. To the point where the biggest story is that Richard Higgins had kind of a breakout game. Look good. It's good, but it's also, it's also... Kenny Britt thing's a major issue. He's bubbling under the surface. Kenny Britt is getting

called out by the coach, and there are tons of gifts out there that show Kenny Britt. You want to talk about a player not looking like he's giving full effort? You can, he gets nailed on video, on film. What's he up to it? What's going on with that guy? I don't know. There's a chance to be a number one quarterback, number one wide receiver in the NFL, and he's just apparently just loafing out there. It's strange. I mean, you've got to get everyone, right, everyone on that team needs to say, when you have Deshaun Kaiser a quarterback, who, by the way,

dealing with a migraine in the middle of a game, when people are chasing you down, Miles Garrett, not in the field. So this whole thing could quickly go very, very south if they don't find, you know, some sort of sparks in. Moving on. Strange story in Washington, Suea Cravens. his season with Redskins is over. They placed the second year safety on the reserve slash left squad list on Monday,

prevents him from returning to the team for the rest of the season. This comes after three weeks after Cravens went on the exempt left squad. Before the start of the season, he had been dealing with an undisclosed health issue in per NFL rap sheet and Mike Garifolo. He was contemplating retirement. He changed his mind, but the Redskins then released a statement, Greg, that basically said, you know, take this time, re-evaluate if you want to play football,

but we're done with you this year. Your thoughts? The timing's strange. I mean, it's a really interesting story that he's passing on, you know, a lot of money for a guy who hasn't made, you know, a lot of money yet in his career because he's considering, is this really worth it? Is this my passion? And the most interesting part about it was Rapsheets report that he was planning to return to the team on Tuesday. Yeah.

And then that's when the state. statement came. It was almost like a, okay, you're going to say that you're not sure if you want to play football and you're not sure if you want to commit to us. Well, then that's fine. Like, we're going to put you on this list and then you can sit an entire year and not get paid and decide whether or not you want to know. Now you have a full year to do it. It's almost like, I don't know, like a dad. A little cold. Yeah. I mean, we're going to see more and more players have to confront and deal with these decisions because he's had, he has a history of concussions. I think it starts right there. And when you have to ask, you know, what we know about concussions, what we're learning more and more about, is this something that you want to impact your health, your life? And he's a thoughtful guy in interest, like, if you wanted a good quote or a spicy one in the Redskins locker room last year,

I think you went to Sue Kravins off and he was a rookie. And they were expecting him to have a big role. So football, you know, the football team part of it, maybe they were a little upset that, like, hey, we expected you to have a big role. And then suddenly he left and they're holding that against. Well, it was weird because didn't he also scrub everything from his Instagram that was Redskins related? And then he just had his USC stuff on clearly like tons of stuff behind the scenes is going on between both sides. And it's probably a little, you know, little rough. Nonstop drama around the Redskins.

Notice that? There's always something. There's always been something going on with that team. Yeah, one of the most entertaining people and in form. to follow on Twitter is the general manager they decided they didn't want anymore. Finally in the news, Mark Sessler, as you noticed shortly on Sunday's podcast, and by the way, we had some technical difficulties. We are well aware, and you guys all reached out to us, and we did see the subreddit. We're sorry about that.

We will work to make sure it doesn't happen again. What else do you want from us? You want us to go back in time and fix the show? It doesn't work that way. Oh, God. So get off our bags. Thank you, um, Budsman. But we're sorry.

So how was the game, Mark? Anyway, so Mark was not a smooth transition. Mark wasn't on the Sunday show and, you know, good for you, Mark. You were at the Stubhub Center where you were at the first home game for the Los Angeles Chargers at their 27,000 capacity facility. It's not theirs actually. It's a soccer stadium or arena that they are playing temporarily. Your thoughts on the first game, what was the vibe, the environment, good for football, bad for football, go.

Well, there's a lot to unpack, I think. But the vibe, because I went in not trying to have the whole thing be about, oh, isn't it so ridiculous that they moved from San Diego to L. I mean, a lot of Chargers fans were killing me all day on Twitter, and I get it. I am not pro, yes, because I'm not, because any time I sent out a photo of any part of the stadium, it's like, what are they doing there? They shouldn't be. I'm a Browns fan.

I watched them move. It broke my heart when I was young. I'd not pro move. But from a different angle, just experiencing what this was, it was the most unusual in a good way NFL game that I've ever been to, probably been to about 20 in my life, 20, 25, and it was completely different, a total point of departure for me, being able to wander around.

And before the game, got the real early, sat in about 25 seats all over the place. I just walked around the whole stadium. And as people have said, it's true. There just is not a bad sight line. I mean, it was really incredible to be even up in the highest reaches, which there isn't really a high reach. There is not. No, it's a second, second story. You have this incredibly clear view of the game.

Assault Matt Money Smith after he is their radio play-by-play guy. He told me it's the first game he's been at where he just simply didn't even need to pick up his binoculars. Wow. He'd just able to watch it and announce as it went on. Didn't you say, we were talking about it before the game, did you say that people can bring beer into the stadium? I talked to a podcast fan named RJ who said that. That's exactly what he did, that there was some... Are you sure it was approved?

Well, that's our audience at least. Yeah, I mean, he said it went through a certain gate they went through where there is a really nice sort of outdoor picnic area. And, you know, one, there is one area where you can sit down in the end zone if you want to spend a lot of cash and you can buy drinks that seem very expensive. But there were beer stands with beers for six, seven bucks, and I didn't find a beer line that was more than a couple people. A lot of them, they had these beer stands just sitting out over the... the field, so you don't have to evaporate from the game for 20 minutes and miss the entire third 40. How is the buzz during the game, like the crowd reaction? Well, I mean, I think to be fair, it was, and this is something they dealt with in San Diego and Philip Rivers. I thought

had a good comment on this, that San Diego and L.A. is always going to be for all these packs of fans in other cities that want to go see the dolphins play. You don't want to go to Minnesota in November. You're going to go to San Diego in L.A., and that's been an issue for the charge to begin with. Or they're here to begin with. It's a transplant city. I estimated, talked with Handsome Hank, who was there, and a couple of other media people, and we all sort of felt like it was about 35% Dolphins fans, and they were loud. That's substantial. It's substantial.

The crowd is right on top of the field. Right. Chargers fans were loud, too. I'll give him that. River said the loudest cheer was when he missed the kick. Yeah, if you watch that. It was, and I was not in some sort of labyrinth trying to get to the locker room. We missed the entire end of the game, but you're right.

Yeah, there, yeah, if you look, yeah, there was some different, like, clips out there of that missed kick, and there's just a roar that you. don't expect here. And I know it was like that to a certain stand at Qualcomm, but it feels like it's a little different of a vibe here. And I guess the question, the other question is, and a lot of people talked about this, they didn't sell out that first game. And now they're 0 and 2. And that problem can only get, that 35% could become 50 and 51 plus in a hurry if they don't win some games. They're up against. There's innate challenges. I think they knew that. And I think that's why they picked this venue versus having a bad optical look if you're in a much larger stadium.

I will say this. So just again, go back to the game experience. I would encourage anyone just to go check it out if you can get a decent ticket price. I would love to see the Jets there. Maybe not this year's team. You would love it. I'll tell you. There are food trucks all around the place.

Is that a fat show? Incredible food. No, I mean, just it's just that it's it, they've kind, it's the modern experience, I think, of the NFL. It's hard to get, Dan. You can just stuff your face. So many food trucks, Dan. No, for me, I was like, I was there for about 12 hours. I was like, I just want to sit down and get a beer and enjoy this.

Like, you could not do that. You didn't hit up the food trucks. No, I didn't eat a single bite of food the whole time. The photo that we were just looking at looks like a family dinner table, just overlooking. They have this thing called the stadium club, and it's this massive room with all you can eat, all you can drink. Really? There's a price to get into it, obviously. But you can sit at a table like this if you're watching a video and eat and watch the thing.

It's great view. The charters need to win. I mean, not just for to fill that stadium up, but to also make your Sessler look a little bit better because that Chargers giant Super Bowl. Well, I was getting absolutely, talk about getting torched on Twitter. People are not forgetting that prediction last night.

If you want to read more about Mark, Mark did a great job writing it up. Headline, My Stub Hub Adventure, colon, Chargers' home opener, unique. Yeah, it's about 45 feet down on NFL.com right now if you're trying to find it. If you scroll for 45 feet. I mean, I'm not kidding.

No, what he's saying is you scroll down. Then you have to dig a hole underneath your computer and then get underground and you'll find this story. It's apparently what the site thought of it. NFL.com slash slasler. You can find it there. Does it have a vanity URL? Let me guess.

It does. It does. What is it? I will need to explore that. I will come back to that one. That's a bad job by you that time. Not the programming department. All right.

There you go. That's what's happening. In the news, let's touch on Thursday Night Football. And to do that. we will now stand on the shoulders of greatness presented by Head and Shoulders. Standing on the shoulder of Giants was the worst Oasis album, by the way.

Not a good album. Go Let It Out was a good jam. Do you remember that one, Greg? I mean, it's got to be a pretty bad album for you to not like an Oasis album. As an Oasis Superfan, it has its moments, but on balance, and it's pretty widely reviled by their own bandbases.

infamously kick-started your own podcast, the throwback podcast, by looking at the Oasis album, which basically ruined their careers. Yeah, basically. Be here now. But I stand by that record. Check it out the throwback podcast on Stitcher, on iTunes. We're going to talk a little college dropout this week. So everybody tune in.

All right, here we go. And we're going to get Greg on next week, maybe. Next week, Greg. Dan making a very smooth transition for when this show is zapped by the league I think after the start to the show, it might be this week. I love head and shoulders. The Rams at 49ers, Thursday night football, Marron. Colleen, I want to ask you a question.

What player will make the difference in Thursday night football? Oh, well, I'm actually going to go with the 49ers, a player on the 49ers. They still haven't scored a touchdown yet this season. But Carlos Hyde, he had a good week one. This week, he kind of struggled a little bit, but he did break. break off the one long 61-yard run. It was really the only good play that the 49ers had on offense altogether.

And the Rams had a really hard time stopping the Redskins from running the ball. They ran all over them. They had 167 yards at the half. So let's give it to Carlos High. That's logical. That's logical. It's good this year. I would say if you're two weeks into the season

that the Sean McVeigh effect has been much stronger on offense than the Kyle Shanahan effect, which I'm watching. and Brian Hoyer, and every game he's going to do three things that absolutely detonate the offense. It's just, it's hard, it's a hard watch, and it does not look like the Shanahan scheme is completely the parts are not there yet. I think, how about a little Cooper Cup?

How about those shoulders? I mean, he's going up against a 49ers defense that's really been decimated. Malcolm Smith got hurt before the season even started. Then Ruben Foster, Eric Reed, Jimmy Ward. Those are probably the two best players in their side. secondary jquisky tart. So that's like five starters that are gone. And they've got an interesting front line.

I actually think they can stop the run. It's like they've got a group of power forwards with Armstead. And they're a really unique looking team up front, but I don't know about this past defense. It should be a good game for golf. And I think Cups the guy he looks to on third down. He's his guy. I'll say Aaron Donald. How about that?

You know, wrecks the game plan. A game plan wrecking game from Aaron Donald. He will have great, and he has great shoulders. Yeah. Working just physically. He have definitely struggled to to protect Brian Hoyer. 4.7 yards per attempt. We have 99 yards in the last game. Honestly, because here's the thing,

Shanahan with Brian Hoyer did much more in Cleveland that one season, then they've done so far in San Francisco. The talent there is not great. Hey, if you want to watch this NFC West Showdown, it's going to be on NFL Network. Yeah, they're the Color Rush, right? Is it a color rush? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. It's a good-looking one, too. Rams at 49ers only on NFL Network. Is that true? I believe it exclusively on NFL National. Check it out. Find out for yourself. NFL Network will have it, so check it out. I'll be here at the office.

You can join me, Dan, if you want. I know you'll be coming to finish. Maybe I will. Maybe I will, Greg, because... Well, we've made a tradition of seeing Wes on those Thursday nights. That was my plan, but now I feel a little uncomfortable. I feel like maybe Greg wants some company. So maybe I'll split some time.

You're very popular, Dan. I don't know how you do it. That's a controversial move on your part. I am sitting in the corner of the newsroom, like no one within 50 feet of That sounds kind of nice, though. That's not bad. All right, let's move on and let's have a little fun. Two weeks in, all the hype of the preseason, just a memory now.

It's floated away into the theater. And we're starting to see people for their true colors and teams. That was back before Colleen had seven different shows. Yeah. Now she's three and a half. Back in the day. That's not true. What?

This counts. How much? Three quarters of a show? No, it's a full show. You've got three TV shows. Two pods. Two podcast appearances. Get a plug in here.

What are you on again? Let's go through it all. Oh, stop. Go through it all. Good morning football weekend on Saturdays. That's the one we were counting. Which I have it on the DVR, by the way, and I enjoyed it so far. Oh, that's great.

Thanks. Game Day morning. Yep, of course. That's pretty big deal. Yeah. That's a fun one. That's a fun one. That's a fun one you really had to kind of.

to break out your political corporate elbows to get other people out of the way to get into that one. You really used all. I just sat back. I didn't do anything. Come on. Power ranking.

There's some carcasses on the side of the road. And power ranking. Power rankings on Tuesdays. This pod. DamashX pod. I got, I'm not thrilled about that. I got,

I was tagged on some Twitter conversation that involved you a couple days ago. And someone wrote without, you know, not any level of content. dissension like meant i think was like oh collian is you know a tv personality she does the podcast out of the quote goodness of her heart no i did not that's not true nobody said that i'm not saying you i'm saying that is someone someone made that claim about colin oh god no come on we love you we love

you having you here colin and i love being here and let's keep you know constantly going at her every show so we ensure that she returns the following week i slide an envelope of 40 dollars in it to Colleen every week to keep her coming back. All right. So here we go. All that's set up before we were a sidetracked there. Let's play the Denny Green. They are who they thought they were.

Award. But they are who we thought they were. And we let them off the hook. Ooh, I like that. Christian Anderson. Doing it. That guy knows what he's doing behind the glass. Hey, experience.

Doing it. Doing it. All right. Let's start, team, with the Washington Redskins. Are they who he thought they were? Well, it's taken. So I think in theory this is like a team week one that went in a different direction in week two. But what they are is a team that's going to be going in different directions.

They're a middling team. They're one in one. I did like the response that they had and their ability to run against the Rams. I think that was an impressive win. But that's kind of what I thought, that they're a middle of the road team. So they are. They did this last year back and forth. week they look great. The next week they're completely a different operation, so I'm not surprised.

And their passing game was very uneven in that Rams game. I ended up coming up with some big plays, but they completed two passes to wide receivers in the first half. Yeah, this is sort of what I expected from them, especially with Deshaun and Pierre Garsohn gone. You have Terrell Pryor in there, and I expected them to sort of have some issues just getting into rhythm, Kirk Cousins and his receivers, but I knew that they would be able to run the ball. So I think that we choose a little bit better. We can say, we can say, we did, we expect, We were correct. They pushed the Rams around, though.

They really dominated the Rams, too. But that's going to happen to the Rams, too. Generally speaking, they're not a good or a bad team. It really depends on the week. Sometimes they're a good team. Sometimes they're a bad team. We've seen kind of both so far. Would you think of Kirk Cousin Skip and then his old man?

Yes. I don't know if you guys, after the go-head touchdown, I thought it kind of reminded me of being at a family reunion in the 80s and like some dads going at it in horseshoes. He rings one and he's like, Just a tad ponderous. Also, Kirk Cousins would definitely be that guy in intramural basketball. Like he'd be a little agitating.

He might be wearing specs and he'd be kind of thrown some elbows. I love it. That's Kirk. How about a team? The Rams. How about the Rams? We just talked about them a little bit. Colleen, are they what we thought they were?

The Rams are kind of tough to figure out because of Sean McVeigh being there. I feel like Jared Golf actually looks a lot better under McVeigh, obviously, than he did last season. So we were all expecting that to happen with McVeigh coming in and sort of helping him out. But the defense really, like we talked about before, had a hard time stopping the run. And I thought that with Wade Phillips running the show, the defense would maybe look a little bit better. I actually did not buy into the idea that McVeigh was going to flip the switch on golf right away. I just was so unimpressed with golf last season that I needed to see it.

So I'm not going to say that I expected that to happen. I think this is a well-coached team, and there's a lot of encouraging signs if you're a Rams fan that over the course of the year you're going to see growth on offense. They're banged up on defense, too. But, yeah, they're even a little further ahead,

I think, on offense than I thought they'd be. Not Gurley. Well, finally, like, Gurley looks better. They've made the great decision to not play Tavon Austin. That's kind of been under the radar. He's played 16 snaps.

He's played less snaps than Josh Reynolds. Well, they could not develop. They could not develop wide receivers. Don't play them. They could not develop wide outs under Fisher, and now with Cooper Cup and Sammy Watkins contributing, it's a completely different passing game. With Goff,

you know, everybody has expectations, general football cognoscenti expectations about Goff, for an example, like, oh, he was such a mess last year. Week one could play tricks on you because he'll have a great game, and then the expectations flipped the other way, and everybody's like, oh, Jared Goss fixed, and then last week happens, and it's like, okay,

the jury's still very much out on this guy. You got to see him in a tougher situation than he really was in, but he was just solid. He looked like an NFL quarterback, even against the red thing. It's better than last year. About the Patriots. I mean, come on. What, they bounce back? Greg, so the expectation they're going to go into New Orleans and lose and be 0 and 2?

No. I didn't flip out after week one. That's a thing. I completely expect them to be 4-1, 5-1, and I understand Tom Brady looked lights out, but this is not a surprise for me. No, but they're not who I thought they were. This is going to be a different sort of team because Dante Hightower is out, and they're down to one or two wide receivers.

They had one healthy wide receiver to finish. It's just a different team. Yeah, and Brady threw for 447 yards. Right, no, no, I get it. I'm just saying they're a different vibe to the team where they're kind of figuring things out. It's not a team like they were really the last year where they were good to begin with. I'm just saying they're going to be like more resourceful. I think Patriots as much as any other team in the league seem to reshuffle a portion of the roster every season.

And there are injuries this year. But I'm not surprised that new faces are going to merge and be part of this team. If you actually do follow the NFL, and if you, for instance, a Patriots hater like me, you took a lot of joy at a week one, but you knew you just enjoy it while you have it because this team is shown time and time again that they'll adjust, they'll fix things that are wrong. And they did that. And the offense got a ton of credit as they should have, but the defense had a great week too, and that tells you so much about how good this team is.

Like Malcolm Butler was playing behind Eric Rowe. I'm just saying it's different. Tony Romo pointed out how they broke out a 2001 offense with a fullback on the field. They're full backs and tight ends. It just looks different. One key, I like to see them find another team like the Chiefs and see if they get challenged by different types of teams. The Saints weren't, there was a good matchup.

I think they're going to be challenged. They're not an unbeatable team by any stretch. All right. And finally, the Jacksonville Jaguars. Here's a tricky one. I was so excited after week one. Ten sacks. They had Leonard Fournette out on every play,

but you cannot cover of Blake Bortles. And that's going to be the problem. And that's who they are. That's the week two is the team that they're going to be. If they don't get the lead early, they're... I totally. agree. They're exactly who I thought they were.

They beat the Texans because the Texans laid an egg, but at the end of the day they're going to be a team that has good defensive games and good efforts, but the quarterback's going to kill. That games in London this week, isn't it? Oh, God. They're getting a defensive game because that Ravens game, I just could see it, a lot of field goals.

I honestly would not be surprised to see Ryan Nassiv who played under Doug Marone, who they just signed, start games this season. I can see it happening because I think Blake Bortles could end this season as your Third Stringer, not even active in games. By the way, Blake Bortles, this is a tweet from Mike K. Bortles was 11 of 25 for 89 yards entering the fourth quarter,

nine of nine for 134 in the final period. So Blake Bortles is still Blake Bortals too. He had a 16 quarterback rating for the first half. So there you go. All right, there you go. The Denny Green, they are who they thought they were award. I guess we gave out four of them. Nice seg.

Nice seg. All right, here we go. Let's do this thing. Yeah. I've been teasing it forever. We have so many glorious users around the NFL subreddit. We're about 7,000 strong now. And we promised a prize went across the 5,000 marker.

This really hits at how long this has been delayed. They've gained like 18% of their audience or the group has grown that much before we actually follow through with it. But you did struggle on the math. Listen, 39. State mandated. Let's stay on target here. And this is the ATN subreddit supercontact. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It is a contest in which someone plucked at random from the subreddit is going to join us on the line right now. They will get four trivia questions. It will be a mix, mostly NFL related, history related, but also one ATN podcast-related trivia questions. So not only you have to know the NFL, you've got to know the history of this show. And if you get all four right, all four right, you get two game tickets. tickets to any game you want to see in the regular season. So let's say you're from New Orleans. You go to the Superdome.

Let's say you're from London. You go to one of these London games. Oh, that's cool. So that is the best we can do. I feel like it's pretty good. That's a solid gift. That's amazing. Last time we did this, it was a Titans Media Guide.

Right. So it's gotten better. Yeah, there was a lot of heat just around a toast. I mean, it was a magical toaster. It had a lot of powers. Any team you wanted, but still. So anyway, so yes, here we go. And the lucky person that Erica plucked out of the masses is who?

So we have Danny from Texas on the line here. Danny from Texas. Welcome to the around the NFL podcast. Danny. Hey, Dan. Dan, oh. What's up, buddy? Who's your team?

My team is actually the Lions. All right. Nice. You're feeling it this morning. I feel like the Lions fans rightly feel like they haven't got enough respect on this podcast. Now it's your chance to get back. And keep in mind that our contest does not include any airline travel or hotel lodging. Oh, God.

He couldn't go that far. Just the ticket. But Danny, if you get this right, you can go to, you know, a game in Texas or you can find your way to Detroit and you'll have two game tickets waiting for you. Not bad, right? Yeah, not bad at all. And this, Danny could be the only contestant. If he gets four questions in a row, he wins the prize and that's it. We don't have like 45 game tickets.

There's a game tickets to go. I'm rooting for you, Danny. This is all for you right now. You can do it. Don't choke, Danny, okay? All right. All right. Here we go.

First question. We'll give you some time. And Erica, give him some music underneath to add a little bit more pressure. And here it comes. Greg, good luck to you, too, because this could be over in five minutes. Yeah, I'm rooting for these guys today. Here we go. Here we go.

First question. Who scored the game? game-winning touchdown in overtime of the Patriots Super Bowl 51 win over the Falcons. That was running back James White. All right. That is correct. Wow. One for one.

Like surgical. One for one. Question two. Antonio Gates passed Tony Gonzalez with his 112th career touchdown on Sunday, the most ever for a tight end. Who did Gonzalez pass when he set the record in 2007? Ooh, wow Wait, is this Okay, this is most ever by a tight end, right?

Most ever. Touchdown receptions by a tight end. That could be a stall tactic for Googling. We're going to need an answer. Sorry. Going to need an answer, Danny. Ooh. Tick.

All right, he's gone. He's gone. Tick. That's it. Danny, thank you. Sorry, Dan. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you for playing, buddy. and thank you for listening. Listen, it's not personal when we've got to kick you off the line. It's the rules. It's the rules. There has to be some level of control here. You got the first one, though, so that was good. You got to throw out a guess.

Don't try to start quickly. Just guess. You got to get it out there. And those of you may be that our listeners are our New York market might be like, this seems awfully familiar to the Mike and the Mad Dog's Super Bowl contest. Yeah? You're right. It stole the idea from them.

It's not stealing. It's an omash. It's the best form of flattery. All right, Colleen, you got to go. Got to go. Got to go to another show. Thank you for joining us. Thanks for having me.

Let's get somebody else on the line, Erica. All right, let's keep moving. We got three chances. We've got three people who have a chance. Danny from Texas, didn't get it done. But how about who's next for us here, Luce Cannon? We have Neil from Washington, D.C. You're there, Neil?

I'm here, yeah. There you go. Neil. Welcome to the Around the NFL podcast from the nation's capital. Who is your team, Neil? I'm a Giants fan. I'm actually from New York, but I live in D.C. You can get two tickets to a Giants Redskins game, potentially.

The winner. They've played yet? No. They have not. So you're going to have two opportunities. You can just go right up to 95 and go see them in Jersey. You can see them right in your backyard. If you get four questions, correct, Neil, are you a man with steel nerves?

I'm hoping so. I'm shaking right now. We'll see what happens. TBD. Shaked it right now. All right. Don't choke. Here's the first question.

Question. Who scored the game-winning touchdown in overtime of the Patriots Super Bowl 51 win over the Falcons? Oh my God. Come on, Neil. Oh, geez, when I get the first one wrong. Come on, Neil. Feeling that out of me. That's incorrect, Neil.

as a new yorker it hurts to send you away but you got to send you away you're gone sorry neal i'm sorry i sorry james white sorry guys james white's the answer gregg the look on his face during that he knows this thing is going to go on until two august from now you're hurting right now greg a little bit well i just expected more you know that's an it's an all-time touch then you got to know that here's the one thing when we play when sometimes but it's tough you get on the you get on the line i've been you know what he We know that at a bar on a Wednesday night with his friends. It's tough, I think, when you suddenly...

At least the answer. You know, Danny and Texas didn't throw anybody out. Julian Edelman's not a bad guess, but, you know, James, whatever. It's already an underrated play in Super Bowl history. I don't think many running backs are getting in the end zone that play. He broke a couple tackles to win the only overtime game ever. You got to remember that. A lot of fans don't have to recall this all the time.

I know. I literally... I literally... And I'll say also, like, and this is not in defense of... of the listeners. When you play Win West's Toaster, you've got the timer and you have to go quickly. Yeah. There's the time element here as well, but you have a little bit more time to marinate in your mind.

So come on, guys. You can do this. We believe in you. All right, a lot of pressure now on our final third and final contestant. Greg dying. Greg cannot believe that we're now one faulty listener away from this thing carrying over to another week to next Tuesday. I would appeal to the like-minded folks like me out there, but they already turned this podcast off.

They were like, okay, let's go check out WTF with Mark Merron now for the rest of the show. Well, enjoy that because what we have here, and Mark does a nice job with his little interviews with celebrities. It's cute in his little garage. What we have here is a spectacle. Trivia. It's about knowledge. It's about how humans perform under pressure. And we have one more contestant.

And who is it, Temposi? We've got Jimmy from Toronto. Hey, Jimmy. How's everybody doing? How you doing, buddy? Our neighbor to the north. Jimmy, who's your favorite team? I am a pretty big Cowboys fan.

Okay, so just so you know, the grand prize here, Jimmy is two tickets to any game you want to see in the regular season. We can't fly it at Dallas. We can't put you up in a hotel, but we can give you two tickets, and that's what's on the line here. we wish there was still a Toronto game that was axed I know that would be that would have been easier for you

but you can figure you can figure it out how about this Dallas Dallas Seattle on Christmas Eve all right sounds wonderful how but I just dragged down to Buffalo and do Jet Bill there you go that too it's going to be a killer there you go we'll kill people that's true

all right well we're wishing you luck here Jimmy from Toronto let's get into it now Who scored the game-winning touchdown in overtime of the Patriots Super Bowl 51 win over the Falcons? Greg's literally praying right now. That's correct. Yeah, there you go! That's correct!

That's one. That's just one, though. Okay. Let's go, let's go. Antonio Gates passed Tony Gonzalez with his 112th career touchdown the most ever for a tight end. Who did Gonzalez pass when he set the record in 2007? I don't know. Throw out a guess.

Throw out a guess quickly. Quickly. You're running out of time. Pass, pass, pass. No, there's no pass in this game. Name a tight end, Jimmy. I don't know. I don't know.

Anthony Beckett could have said that's not the answer, but you just name a tight end. Goodbye, Jimmy. Oh, my God. Relations with Canada. to take a major hit. In your defense, that's the hardest question. I looked at the fourth.

That was the toughest. Something. I didn't think it was that tough. The truth of the matter is I really think if Jimmy or any of these other contestants could have gotten that question, and we could say goodbye to Jimmy. See you later, Jimmy. You might get through the rest of this thing. I think you have a shot. But that's it, listen, you're talking about a player that we, I think, if you're a longtime football fan, well, we're not going to reuse it.

No, I mean, Shannon Sharp is someone that you watched endless. with those Broncos teams and with the Ravens. But if you're a 21-year-old football fan, I don't know how old these guys are. That's a little deeper in the history books. I actually remember, yeah, it's tough. It's tough to put yourself, we've been doing this for 15 seasons now.

Because I remember when Tony Gonzalez broke that record. It wasn't that long ago. The thing is, with these type of games, just throw out a name. Shannon Sharp was around in the league for like 14 years, scoring touchdown. Just throw his name. Again, if he's driving around in a car with you,

he gets it. By the way, terrible job by me. I was switching Toronto with Vancouver, and that's why I suggested the Seahawks game, which is an easy drive from Vancouver, but why would someone from Toronto fly to Seattle to see the Cowboys? On Christmas Eve. It's a terrible idea.

So this is what the listeners get for week one of the super contest. Greg as well. Well, yeah, that's what Greg gets. Well, it's what Dan got when his lock failed. Didn't hear it then. Didn't hear it now. That's fine. That's fine with me.

I snuck out of it with the lock thing, too. I think you know, Mark, that there is a perverse joy I get out of this game coming back next week and sticking it to old Greggy. I mean, I don't think that. I know that. Dan loving crashing the podcast into the side of the mountain. What a joy.

The people love it. The people tell you on Twitter to everybody tell Greg how much they love the trivia contest. We will be back. We'll find out if they do. Now they will because, like I said, anyone that doesn't like it has not made it to this portion. Sure, sure, sure.

All right. We will be back on Thursday with a recap of that Thursday night football banger. And just a reminder that the – and a preview of all the week three games. A reminder that the live stream of this ATN show is 6 p.m. Pacific, 9 p.m. Eastern. Everyone else, figure it out. It's not our problem. Your deal. The relationship between the people on the show and the listeners, it's both warm and a little bit cold at the same time.

see where we just cut them out of that contest at the end. It's pretty warm. I like to think so. NFL pick them on NFL Network on Saturdays at 9 a.m. Eastern, 2 p.m. Eastern and 11 p.m. Eastern. And then again, a Sunday morning replay at 6 a.m. Eastern. So make sure you check that out. I got up to the minute. We got a live hit on Thursday. You'll miss the show on Tuesday by the time you hear this. But Thursday will be on around 140 Pacific.

So there's places to find us. It's on you to do so. Okay, that's it. That's it. Stan Head is signing off for Quiet Storm. Connie Fox, the old boss, and the loose catar behind the glass, and Christian Anderson, of course.

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