NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - TNF Recap - Rams Romp Patriots

Episode Date: December 11, 2020

Gregg Rosenthal and Lakisha Wesseling recap the Rams win over the Patriots on Thursday night.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Hey, everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the 6th, we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies to evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. We study the tape, talk to decision makers, and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else.

It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sunday. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Gough takes it, leaps and he's got it. Touchdown. Los Angeles is Jared Gough. Scores the first points of the ball game. He's down. Newton trying to set up a screen. He's picked. Back the other way. And down the sideline is Kenny Young. He makes a move and ends up in the end zone with a Six. Got to his right throw. Pass is caught.

Touchdown. Oh, Cooper Cup. They call that third in Cup at the Rosenthal household where my family has turned on me. No one rooting for the Patriots anymore. Everyone's jumping ship because they look sorry on Thursday night against Lakeisha. Jackson Wesleyan's Rams, 25. Four to three, the Rams take care of business. Felt like this thing was over early after a camp, Newton, pick six, made it 17.

Nothing. It was about that point that my son Walker wanted me to text Keisha and just let him know that he's a Rams fan and that he's on Team Rams. And the picture Keisha sent back was just buoyant. You know, you were glowing. So you got this. You're wearing your Rams jersey or your Rams shirt today. and had to feel good, had to feel good to watch this tonight, Kish. It felt great, but I will say this.

I hated the comparisons to, you know, Super Bowl 53 and whatnot because there's just so many players that are not there anymore. So it's like, I didn't get the sense that it's just like I still feel the pain and agony. Like this doesn't erase it, but, you know, it was nice to get a win in. But it's like a way to move, not move on because. No. Look, it didn't, it doesn't change anything. Of course, it really doesn't have much to do with it.

But if the Rams had lost this game, man, you would have been miserable. You would have been thinking about that other Super Bowl. And it would have told you something about where these two teams are at. So what happened tonight, I think, said a lot about these two teams. The Rams, to me, are one of the NFC favorites. Goff is still a problem and we'll get to that. But outside of that, they are, I think, one of the five or six best teams in the entire NFL. and the Patriots feel like they're lucky to be a fringe playoff contender.

And here we are with four weeks left in the season. And that's exactly what we saw Thursday night. We saw one team that was superior that could win the game almost with a hand tied behind their back. The Rams didn't even need to throw the ball tonight. I felt like it was a great night for your boy, Sean McVeigh. Man, like, Camakers, that's all I can talk about. I'm just like, wait a minute, because it's been hard for me to watch like full Rams games

with my son like pull me in multiple directions but my mom's in town now so I got to really focus on this game and it's just like man like he was phenomenal I'm just like whoa he he is good I mean the scheme the scheme was great and the play calling was great and he is a very patient runner he ended up with 171 yards on 29 carries the numbers actually look worse because they just had him kind of running into an eight man line in the fourth and third quarter with the game over but he's someone coming out of college that I liked as much as any running back in this class. And I thought he's been a little hesitant this year. And it's good to see him going because that is an amazing one-two punch with him and Darrell Henderson.

I think people are sleeping on Darrell Henderson being one of the most explosive running backs in the NFL. He's a little banged up right now as a short week. It makes sense to sit him. But you got them one-two. Even without Andrew Whitworth in the lineup, they are one of the best running teams in the the NFL. I loved it. And he broke so many records today, too. I kept, like, getting my notepad. I was like, wait, what did they just say? Okay, he broke this record. Okay, well, let's read it. What's, you know, what was the point of him? He was the Rams, he was the most rushing yards for

any Rams rookie since 1993. The last person to do that was Jerome Bettis. He's had the, the most rookie yards, the most rushing yards for rookie this entire season and the most ever, against the New England Patriots. So he's just on fire. And it ended what was one of the craziest stats of the night that Joe Buck threw out there, a six-game losing streak from the Rams to the Patriots. The Rams hadn't beaten the Patriots since before the Super Bowl

that started at all back when Ricky Hollywood was just, you know, knee-high to a graphhopper. I couldn't believe that. I couldn't believe that. So it's nice. I do want to give McBay credit because to me, he's in my top three or four for coaches of the year. What he did tonight early with tempo was awesome.

They caught the Patriots not really ready on a few third and downs, where golf must have snapped the ball with about 35 seconds left. I mean, you do not see teams ever play that. But even the Patriots who used to play, like, insanely fast, that was like warp speed. It was just the first drive or two, and then they adjusted. But that was one of the reasons they got some real easy third and 12s, third and tens early.

And then he comes out all night using 12 personnel, and the broadcast talked about that, but two tight ends on the field, they went power. They kind of knew that the Patriots weren't going to be buying any play action, not even, they were going to be begging golf to be throwing, and they didn't take that bait. They went the totally other way. So a couple of years after a Super Bowl where Belichick and McVeigh, I think we're at the opposite ends of the talent spectrum.

I think the Rams had a little more talent than the Patriots even back then. This time, the Rams had more talent. and they out-coached you boy. And I think he deserves some credit for hiring Brandon Staley, who no one had ever heard of before, and he might win the defensive coordinator of the year award or coordinator of the year award because he is nasty. I mean, they could have played this game for another 120 minutes.

Patriots weren't going to catch up and score 24 more points. Not with the way the defense was playing, man. Like, oh, my goodness, I just, the defense is where it's at for me. Like, Aaron Donald, like, I know the stats, everyone's looking at like sacks and whatnot, but on certain plays, I'm just like, whoa, even the first, um, the pick six or whatever from Kenny Young, I was looking and it was just like, Aaron Donald was almost next to Kenny Young, like running. I'm just like, he's a freak. He's everywhere. He's a freak. Um, he there, I think they're the best defense in the league. I threw that out on, um, Mina Kimes's show last week. And she thought that was crazy. And I was like, to me, it's them or the Steelers. You can't just do it out. a reputation you got to do it on what you see now a lot of deep you know the patriots make a lot of defenses look good right now but it doesn't change the fact that the rams are good uh each and every week they're deep they can stop you throwing and we saw it tonight it can stop you running um it was

tough though i mean the patriots like the the key offensive series for me for them was where they ran it 12 times and 13 plays i think um in the second quarter and they got it inside the seven or so first and goal. And they just ran it four times. And I didn't mind it. Everyone's like, what are you doing? Cam Newton's looking bad, making bad decisions, not pitching the ball. And I'm like, that's what they do well.

And if they can't win that way, it's not going to happen. I mean, they're just so limited. It's pretty tough to watch. So what do you expect now from like your Patriots at quarterback? It's a good question. I wish I could hear. It doesn't look better than Cam Newton. I mean, he looked a little better.

He took a bunch of stacks. He did. Jared Stidim has looked better, I think, the last two weeks when he's coming in each of the fourth quarters. They'll definitely ask Belichick about it after the game, which is probably happening right about now. So I hope this isn't out of date. I think this could be the week that, yeah, he makes a switch to Stidim. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if he stays loyal. Belichick loves Cam and stuck with it for like one more week until they're officially knocked out of the

of playoff contention. I mean, I'd be surprised if either one of those dudes has a legitimate chance to be their starter next year. So I think he's just thinking about this year. I did see a tweet from Mike Girardi that if you're going to make a switch now would be the time because you guys have what, like two Sundays from now. So I mean, don't don't put you guys on me. I didn't, I'm not on the field. I don't like it when people say we. I didn't do anything. I mean, hell, my family's jump ship. they're all rooting on the rooting for the rams um i mean they're not going to make the playoffs i didn't think they had much of a chance but they really had to win out now they play three good teams in row Miami buffalo um and then the jets so not three good teams in row they have to win

out and even then they almost have no chance to make it so this tonight for all intents and purposes um probably knocked them out i'd like i guess i would say take a look at sted him for three weeks. But Bill Belchick's the goat and he has his reasons for sticking with Cam Newton. And if he wants to stick with him for one more week, whatever. How about the Rams though? This, I mean, whatever. I'm just saying like, Cam's just not like letting go of the ball quickly. Everyone looks bad against the Rams, but he's clearly not comfortable in terms of just like what he's seeing out there. So the Patriots playoff road is almost over. But the Rams, this was. This was a huge game for them because they get a little mini buy and then they get the jets

which is like another buy yes and then you're at 10 and four what tonight really clinched was all the rams have to do to win the nfc west is go up to seattle and win that game and they win that's it yep you got to feel confident about that they kind of own the sea hawks lately yes now if you said um 49ers i'd be like um but see no the nfc west has this weird sort of round robin thing where the 49ers on the Rams, the Rams of the Seahawks, and the Cardinals weirdly own the 49ers, which is bizarre. And then, you know, the Seahawks 49ers always play good games. So that sets up well that they, they're not going to get like, they're not going to get

home field advantage or anything like that, but they can win the division. The problem is winning the division isn't much of a reward because if you're the number five seed, you're probably going to play your first game against the Giants. the or the Washington football team, which is not the worst draw. What are you rooting for? What am I rooting for? I would, yeah. Don't you wish that stadium was open tonight of all nights?

This is the game I would have gone to. I'm only wearing this T-shirt because of you. I've been like saving it because I'm like, I don't want to waste an cute Rams outfit, but I'm not even at the stadium. Like, I just, all the shots of it, I just, I can't wait. Like, I'm going to go nuts. Tailgating is going to go crazy the first time. I'm like, I'm there.

This would have been the game that I would have gotten the kids' tickets and they would have gone and it would have been a whole thing. We would have done a little pod afterwards and drive home. It would have been nice. In a future time, we'll do it. I told Ellis, she'll be 17 years old. She's nine right now, my daughter. By the next time the Patriots are out here, about once every eight years.

Now you've got to get Walker some Rams gear. This is crazy. I don't mind it. People are weird. People are weird about teams. Like, you know, they'll end up rooting for both teams, which everyone's better that year. It's like they don't live in Foxborough. They never will.

Before we go, I do want to give some positives for the Patriots. If you made it this far into your Patriots fans, you deserve some positives. So I don't know if we have any music or anything. I don't, we don't want anything to the music. All right, five positives for the Patriots. Number one, no team loses quicker than the Patriots. They're like the Bill Callahan Washington team from a year ago on speed. They are Mark Sessor's favorite team.

Each one of these games ends in about two hours and 50 minutes. The Patriots, they might not win, but they get it over with quickly. Nikiel Harry, number two, it's kind of sad, their first round pick from a year ago. I thought that was maybe the best game of his career, and he was only for 49 yards, but he's coming along. Cam Newton, your boy, Erica, made history tonight. That was the first pick six thrown in the red zone off a screen pass in 10 years by Cam Newton. It's history. That was a fluky play, by the way.

These are positives, you're saying? Okay, that was more of a joke. But that was a bit of a fluky play to have a pick six on a screen, like the most safe thing you can do. Number four, no one opted out during this game or even during this week from the Patriot season. And then the last thing is they came to Los Angeles, played the two L.A. teams, and they outscored him 48 to 24. You had told me that beforehand.

I'd be like, all right, that's cool. We just doubled up the Chargers and the Rams. I just can't believe you win 45 to zero last week. And then this game happens. I mean, credit to the Rams, they are phenomenal. Like you said, their defense is unmatched. But the defense didn't even have to be out there tonight. Like the Patriots shot themselves in the foot no matter what.

Like, they could be no defense out there. They're not going to beat any top 10. Oh, my God. The last thing before we go, actually, is what is your concern level about Jared Goff? So, because even in this win, it really started to feel like that McVeigh is starting to, like, coach around him a little bit, like a little bit of Carson Wend's vibes that I'm like, huh, they're like not really trusted him. They don't need to, but he looks a little iffy right now. Up and down, it's like an emotional roller coaster because it's like when he's good, he's freaking good. And when he's not, it's just like, it's, yeah, I.

That was something tonight. Him missing throws and then McVeague. kind of dialing it back and being like, bro, we don't need you tonight. But also, he's letting him on fourth down, you know, like quarterback get, you know, the first down. He got the rushing touchdown. Like, I also feel like he was giving him a little bit of power at some points, too. Like, I feel like this, I would, I didn't watch this game. I mean, he's six foot five, you know, he better be able to be allowed to sneak at it on fourth and goal.

Well, Cam went to it. They had a minute. Kim was the greatest store yard, his quarterback, and the hip, history of the NFL. Yeah, but it's like third and 40 and he checks it down 10 feet. It's like ridiculous. Well, I don't think they're going to have Kim Newton a year from now, Erica. So that is great news for you. It was great to have you, Kish, in here. Any parting thoughts, you know, for the listeners, for me, for my family, anything. I'm just happy to see you guys. Like, this is the most interaction I like get with you guys. Like, I never see Erica. Sometimes I see you when you pick up

Chris from an appointment, but man, it's just, you know, got to put on a little makeup, felt normal for a minute there. You look good. And we're going to be, we'll probably be talking to you again after some Rams playoff games. It's happening. They're back. I'm pumped, man. One year off for them, but they're back. That's a good sign of a good organization. That's it for us. Thanks, Keith, for joining. Thanks for a long day. We will be back on Sunday, of course. with the week 14 recap show. It should be fun. Until then, see ya.

Thanks. Duses. Hey, everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the 6, we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies. to evaluate team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. We study the tape, talk to decision makers,

and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else. It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sunday. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.