NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 'Top 100' debate & mailbag

Episode Date: July 2, 2015

A room with some heroes -- Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling and Marc Sessler – are joined by special co-host Lindsay Rhodes to recap the latest NFL news including the Antonio Gates' suspension. The guys also debate the latest "Top 100 Players" rankings (21:00) before diving into the mailbag. Plus, a new "Orr You Kidding" with Conor Orr.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast. Can't fight this feeling anymore. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by a room filled with Heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Lindsay Rhodes. Yay. Who was that singing, by the way?

Matt Money. Matt Money Smith. Oh. R.io Speedwagon, not a one-hit wonder. No, absolutely not. Yeah, we were talking our 90s, one-hit wonders on the last show. Money just delivering the high octave there. Very impressive.

Were they a one-hit wonder? No, they had three or four big hits. Okay. Yeah. I feel like Oreo Speedwagon, when I was like an elementary school, on a depressing Sunday, driving around with my mom doing errands, obviously Ariel Speedwagon on the radio. Yeah.

Do you remember the movie Last American Virgin? No. Came out like 1981 or 1982. But you watch it regularly? No, my friends and I in high school would watch it because it had the best soundtrack of all time, but you could never find the soundtrack. So it was like the mythical great soundtrue. Who had inside by the soundtrack?

It wasn't available. Inside 60 seconds on Wes's first 1980 reference. Early 80s reference of the show. What do you want? That's when I grew up. All right. Great show today. Oh, man. It's so happy to have Lindsay here.

I'm so happy to have Lindsay here. Welcome back. Lindsay. How are you? I'm doing really. well, especially now that I'm here. I've missed you guys. I mean, aside from the fact that you sit right next to me in the newsroom, right?

I've missed you in this environment. Very good. And you are just plowing through the top 100 is down to the last 10 now. Top 10. Yeah. Has this been a good experience for you? It's been fun. You've enjoyed it.

I have. I have very much so. Yeah, top 10 is always, top 100 is always fun for me. I like the show. Yeah, that is your baby. You are really the face of the top 100 as we talked about, which means. with Lindsay here, we're going to get into some top 100, more specifically, you know, maybe some issues we have with the top 100 because, Lindsay, we're not, now that we all

kind of know each other a little better now, we can tell you that there has been some issues with the top 100 in this room in the past where people rank and whether, what kind of activity it is, and maybe we'll dig into it a little bit. That's no shock to me. Right. It's like you're apologizing to me. I didn't make the list. No apologies.

Just, you know, laying it out there that, you know, maybe. potentially it is some disagreement potentially so we're going to talk about that our issues with the top 100 also you know as we promised we're going to hit that mailbag up the old mailbag did you do a mailbag with this last time I can't remember

I can't remember I don't think so Qualas 2 Fantasia that's exactly what we did very different Wallace 2 Fantasia that's good it's very good maybe we'll bring that back next week Calasu Fantasia What's your fancy of course

but not today we're going to do the mail bag we're going to get connor or back on the phone for his now i know lindsay you have not been around for this yet i'm not are you kidding me uh it's a weekly segment where connor our new jersey correspondent gets something off his chest and that's going that's going to be part of the show today yeah it's more like i'm excited about are you kidding me there's a lot of different ways it's like hard hitting social topics of the day i feel like you just went Canadian or something on that you have to emphasize the or maybe it was that you just sounded happier than normal and i'm a Rejected Canadian on to you.

Ever since West Groo's goatee, he seems a little bit happier. There's a bounce in my step? A little bit. It might be fake, but... It's working with the ladies, he tells me. Well, that's not exactly what I said. No. Should we get into this?

That was the point of what you said. I've had more conversations with strange women. That's, I think, what I said. Flood women. And they were flawed. Yes, that was my follow-up question, and he said, yes. That's a given. All right.

And now we go behind the glass. It's TD. Now, let's keep it real here. TD was not a part of the show on Tuesday. No coincidence that coming after the Thursday show where he gave us the lov mics and it led to a lot of technical difficulties. It was a one-show suspension, but he's back. Welcome, TD.

What is going on, guys? And I'm appealing that suspension because, you know, I was doing it. You already served. Completely doing it for the team. It's kind of how you take a tank of an injection or, you know, you hit a guy back from hitting your team, man. Because, you know, I'm looking ahead of the season, looking ahead of what we can be doing as a team.

Oh, the video team. Interesting strategy to appeal the suspension after you serve it. It's funny you bring up suspensions. We'll be getting to many today. We will be. Suspension rate. I also want to say that it was a show that it didn't fight too hard. It was a show I wouldn't fight too hard to be on because, I mean, that guy and Mark Sessler is back.

Oh. You know, it always goes back to shots at Mark. I'll say this. You've lacked professionalism for roughly the entire summer, so I'm not surprised to hear anything that you say. I'll say this. It's kind of like Jamie Foxx. I'm not a huge fan of Jamie Foxy actor. I'm a big fan of Jamie Foxy artist.

Great R&B songs. Same thing with you. I love your Instagram. It's a regular Jackson Pollock. The podcaster, Mark Sessler? Wow. I don't know. Just saying.

Well, listen, I'm not coming off of one game suspension for not being professional. Well, it was not appealed. You served it, and rightly so. Happy to have you back. Lindsay, do you feel the awkwardness in the room? This is like a family busting apart at the seams. I feel like I'm at Thanksgiving all of a sudden. I was going to say the same thing.

This reminds me of a lot of Thanksgiving dinners from the early 90s. I'm having a good time. It's good to be in a room with a fellow Emmy winner like Lindsay herself. Clip that for your Emmy Reel. What? I was wondering where that one night was coming in. You actually showed some restraint before dropping. I had to hold it off.

Can we just hear it again now? Clip that for your Emmy Reel. What? I love that he brought up the Emmy's just. just so he could segue himself into the thing that he wanted. That's how I wake up every morning. All right, let's do some news. I heard about a third fight between you and Apollo.

Behind closed doors. That's true? How do you know all this? I'm my son. Right in the old Zeus is a little soft spot. You hit anything Rocky related. I'm excited about Creed. That trailer is fantastic.

I love me some Michael B. Jordan. If I was acting, which I'm not. But if I was right, I feel like me and Michael B would be up for the same rows. Oh, God. Yeah, I could see that. Thanks, Lindsay. I could see that. I'm talking about young Denzel behind the glass.

It's so funny you just said that. Young Denzel. Go ahead, Lindsay. I want to know if that, did that clip have to do with anything that we're about to discuss, or was that just an excuse to play a movie clip that you enjoyed? Yes. Exactly, Mark. He understands me sometimes.

But, I mean, it's a great trailer. Everyone's been talking about it. And that was probably the best part of the trailer to me. He delivered that line so well. It could have been cheesy. It's kind of like when a movie says its name title. I'll get a little Rocky. Are you familiar with the franchise?

I am. I don't remember much of it. I was too young when I watch it. Okay. Well, the part where he says, I heard there was a fight behind the scenes. That was, at the end of Rocky 3, they meet up in the church just Rocky and Apollo after Rocky beats Clubber Lang.

And the movie freeze frames on the two of them connected. Right. Then turns into like a painted background. Yes. A Leonard, what is it, Neiman? Yes. All right. It's like a regular Friday night in Kevin Patras World.

Sully says this is the start of Rocky 4. What? Solly says that's not Rocky 3, started Rocky 4. No, they redo it again in 4, too. But it originally happens to 3. Was Rocky 5 the one with the M.C. Hammer song in it? Yes. Okay.

Yeah. The less talked about that movie. I went to an M.C. Hammer concert once. Wow. Cool. We'll get into that. And we'll get into Lindsay's pick of her one-hit wonder of the 90s a little later in the show. But let's do some news now.

We'll start, yes, you know, it's been very quiet this week in the news, and we should have seen this coming because the holiday weekend, the official NFL holiday weekend, league office-wise, closes on Fridays, which means they had to dump some stuff, and they ended up dumping four suspensions on us. So we'll go one by one. We'll start, let's go in descending order of, in my estimation, importance, and you guys disagree with me.

But we'll start with San Diego in San Diego, where Antonio Gates, one of the best players in the history of that franchise has been suspended four games for violating the league's policy on performance enhancing substances. Gates, well, it doesn't look like Gates is going to appeal this. He said that he had been taking some supplements and, quote, holistic medicines in an effort to recover from this past season, a trigger to positive test, which triggers a four-game ban without pay. It keeps them out of games against the Lions, Bengals, Vikings, and Browns. and Antonio Gates accepted it, the responsibility said, I understand that I am responsible for what is in my body

and I have always believed that ignorance is no excuse when it comes to these issues. I take full responsibility for my actions. Mark, we'll start with you, your thoughts. Well, last year we around this time tried to paint the narrative that Laderius Green was a superstar in the making and we were incorrect on many levels and he's going to have to step up and play

the first four games. I mean, tight end's a big part of that offense. And, you know, Philip Rivers and Gates have been in lockstep for ages. So this is a loss for their offense. I think absolutely. It's a loss, but I think that Ladarius Green could start for half the teams in the NFL. He's one of the fastest tight ends in the league, which is why he was on our making the leap series. And I think though Miss Gates in the red zone, he uses his body as well as any tight end outside of Gronk, I guess, or Jimmy Graham. But Ladarius Green will, I think the Chargers offense will be fine with him in the. Give some time to know what's going to happen to.

We had Green as are making the Leap guy last year. It didn't check out, but he definitely has the skills to do it, you know? Yeah, it only didn't check out because he didn't get enough playing time. Antonio Gates was, the fantasy community had written him off, but he was obviously still a good player. That's why Green didn't play as much. Your thoughts, Lindsay. So this is what I think of when I hear this, and I don't want to necessarily attach this

thought to Antonio Gates. But I think of when players are aging at the end of their career, I might be more likely. And again, I don't know anything about this current situation. I might be more likely to think that maybe something was done on purpose because you get to a certain point in your career and you, if you are coming off an injury or something, it's harder to recover. And it becomes a choice sometimes of I can take something that I know is illegal that's going to actually fix my injury and allow me to recover.

and then I'm going to continue to play for a couple more years or not take that and not be able to play for a couple more years and collect that paycheck. And if I get caught, I could be suspended. Right. But do I care versus not getting a paycheck and not playing at all?

And I'm not saying that that's the case here. But I always wonder that kind of when players get up there toward the end of their career. He just turned 35. And it's telling to me that, and again, speaks to the beating these guys takes, during the course of a season that he felt he needed to take these things to recover from the season, even though he had a period of months for his body to get right.

So it tells you a lot. Not that he needed to take PEDs because, again, he has said in his statement that he didn't take anything knowingly, but he did admit to taking some sort of supplement or something like that that he didn't know was illegal to recover. So he's taking something. Lindsay, a quick rundown of the holistic medicines you are taking right now. You can share this with us. Go ahead.

I don't even know what fits into that. category i don't even take vitamins so you don't neither do i no i'm very unhealthy hard to categorize what's going in to her body and yours and mine and wes's well we i mean if we why do we want to go down that road i don't know a whole different type of podcast it is that's our health watch podcast which will air after our theology podcast we got a nice like we could we should have like a serious xm channel at this point who is less qualified to talk about health watch than three of us well that's fair three of us the three of us men i'm sure you're much healthier than the three of us oh no i just told you i'm very unhealthy well lindsay sometimes walks

by while we're eating lunch and she gets angry that maybe not angry but she's she gets jealous that we're eating like nice lunches and you feel that maybe you can't do that you have like fried chicken and fries or something like that and it like smells and it smells delicious but it's not something that i should go purchase from our huddle cafeteria that's typically on west i don't i don't know i often think west gets the fried fish I don't eat fried food Well, it's always some like gigantic pasta thing wrapped inside like a bread roll

Mark doesn't like food Moving on The next suspension The New York Jets My Jets, oh man Sheldon Richardson Who's been one of their best players For the last couple of years

2013 defensive rookie of the year He will miss the first four games of the year For violating the NFL policy and program For substances of abuse Richardson will miss Four games come back after the team's week four matchup against the Dolphins. Richardson also, this is not going to be an appeal situation.

He apologized for letting everyone down and all that. Todd Bowles, the Jets coach, called the band disappointing for Sheldon and the team. So we don't know exactly what there are some reports out there that what it might be, but we don't know what the substance of abuse is. But this is different than Gates, who was a PD, and this is something else. Lindsay, your thoughts. Well, thank goodness they drafted Leonard Yes

That's my initial thought And my second thought is When did they know that this happened It is weird to find out the teams Obviously learn it a different time than we do often About how things fall But I can't imagine it's been that long Well even if it was

They didn't know prior to draft Not that you don't draft Leonard William Right You're not losing Shulton Richardson I'm not yeah I guess unless it is He becomes so much more valuable Right

And unless it's something we don't know behind the scenes, maybe Sheldon Richardson is someone they're concerned about. Again, we don't know. But then you also got the Mo Wilkerson contract situation. So maybe we see the Jets of having this embarrassment of riches and the Jets are thinking two steps ahead in this case. But I guess the silver lining, if you're a Jets fan like myself, or even if you're in that building,

is that you have this great new piece in Leonard Williams. And now instead of like having a scheme up a way to get them on the field, you're going to plug them right in. you're going to give them a full training camp in four preseason games, and then you're probably going to give them four starts. So it looks like the jets are going to get a good look at what they drafted. Yeah, I think with these suspensions, the report was marijuana. Let's just throw that out there.

The CBA was signed in 2011. The mood of the country has shifted since then, and I think people are going to start to question why are these players getting suspended when the last three presidents we've had, as Rota World's Pat Dardy pointed out today, have admitted to drug use in marijuana. The country doesn't feel the same way about this as it did four years ago when the CBA was signed. I think we're going to start asking why are they getting suspended four games for this kind of thing.

When you already hear that tested or not tested, huge chunks of the current NFL rosters are filled with players that are using medicinal marijuana on some level. And I think you're exactly right that they're going to have to confront this. As for what it means for the Jets real quick, I mean, I think it's funny that in April we're like, oh, why would you draft this kind of defensive player? You already have three or four of these guys. Every NFL season rips players off rosters, injuries, suspensions. You just go after the best player you can.

And from another angle, we freak out about anything that's four games long going into the season. The first month feels so big. But the season is so long that four games is absolutely, by the time you get to week 13, 14, that is a million years ago. They're going to have all these guys. All right, moving on, suspension number three. The Dallas Cowboys have lost Orlando McLean for four games. Also a violation on the policy against substance of abuse. McLean also is not taking the appeal road.

He apologized. You know, I would not break the rules of the profession in the future. I regret my era, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This is the same Rolando McLean who, you know, put his career back on the right track after two separate retirements. He ended up having a breakout year last season after the Cowboys lost Sean Lee. They resigned him to a one-year deal. And he was facing a four-game fine already.

And now he has for a prior issue with substance of abuse. And now a four-game suspension. So to me, huge red flag that McLean is back in trouble. And a good reason why he got a one-year deal even off a great season. he was retired twice by the age of 24 I mean this is nothing for him that's just like a nap maybe he thought wait I'm not getting paid for the first four games I ain't going to go to work either you think you're a man of that little integrity you believe Rolanda McLean to be I'm not saying that it's one of the many theories that

are possible it's a big day of theories probably that's all we can do Lindsay your thoughts I mean it's hard to be totally surprised because of his history and you have to figure that Dallas is prepared for something like this in his case because because of the lack of reliability, I suppose, in the past. He's such a good player, but you've got to be able to back him up. He missed a few games last year, and Anthony Hitchens, who was a rookie at the time, played pretty well, especially in run defense. They picked up Jasper Brinkley, who's a similar type of guy who does well in run defense.

The question is, how will they play on passing down? Sean Lee is really good on passing downs. They might have to play more safeties. And let me just again point out because, and I took a lot of heat because I wrote about how I thought the Cowboys could come back to Earth this season. And, you know, not that this is going to be the reason they might not. But at the same time, it's like everything worked right for Dallas last year, right down to Rolando McClain, showing up out of nowhere

and being a main cog in their defense. So all of a sudden now he's gone four games. You don't know what kind of guy's going to come back. Was he a one-hit wonder callback last podcast? professional or is he going to be you know you know what i mean it's like the cowboys you cannot assume they're going to replicate what they did like you just block all of those cowboys fans who complained it's june or early july who cares what your analysis is yesbns tim mcmann tweeted also mclean of mclean he said uh good thing he rehab back home in alabama huh i guess he made

the choice to stay home and get right rather than work with the team it's never a good one of those guys do not yeah don't do it finally This is number four on my suspension list, Lindsay. And, you know, I don't know if that is disrespectful to a former making the leap candidate of around the NFL. Dayton Jones of the Packers is suspended without pay for one game for violating the league's policy against substances of abuse. This is the same Jones who battled an ankle injury last season, had just one and a half sacks. This is entering his third year, and he thought maybe as a first round pick, this would be the year he gets going. and sure you could still.

It's only one game, but not a great start. Well, first of all, in your defense, it makes sense that he would be less because he's only one game. Okay, cool. There you go. I'm covered. So, and as far as how it impacts the team, obviously,

this is just one game, and you figure they have the depth to handle this. So probably not that big of a deal for the Packer, certainly not a good start for Dayton Jones in a big kind of not make it or break it, but in a show me what you got kind of season, for him. I mean, it is because they're going to have to decide whether they want to pick up his

fifth year option after this season. And I think he's got all the talent in the world. That's not unlike some of the other guys that we feel like maybe we picked a little early for making the leap. He hasn't become the guy that we thought he would last summer. But it's not for lack. I mean, he was trying this off season. He was doing yoga and all this other stuff, trying to get his body more flexible.

Packers said that defensive line is as deep as it's been in a long time. Against the Bears, week one, not an issue. He'll be back. B.J. Raji's healthy this year. They didn't have him last year. So that, I mean, he might be even better than Dayton Jones. Who cares? What does healthy mean?

412 pounds? Where does he weigh in? This is another shot against food, Mark? No, I'm asking a question. I thought that was a gigantic fact guy the last time I checked. I'm not aware of B.J. Raji's weight. Sorry. That's what's happening in the news.

And hopefully there nothing else happens today. Nobody else gets suspended. I'm trying to do a podcast here. Dad. All right, let's move on. How'd that go? Oh, I was thinking, Lindsay, we're about to talk about the Top 100. You've been on our podcast a few times now.

How about, with the finale of Top 100 coming up, you give us a prominent on-camera role over an old studio one. Thoughts. You're going to have to repeat yourself. Okay, okay. It makes that little sense, I think, is what she's saying. You've been on our podcast several times. Yes.

Oh, now it's time to reciprocate. The finale show, a lot of eyeballs is going to be on it. Maybe it's time. We're on stage two. That's what threw me off. Oh, okay. So I was like, what, do you want to be on total access? I thought it was because you were looking at your phone, but you're saying, okay.

See how I covered for myself. It might have been both. Okay. It's time to have the old Zeus are on TV. Wait, no, I said the whole group. Even TD. Put them in the background. I'm sweeping up.

Sweeping. How did you get to be the sweeper? Dad, I'll have you know. Only Emmy winners are allowed on TV. Oh, wow. That's not true. I've seen some of the other people on TV. We're going to have a live studio audience.

We could play. We could sit there. That would work. That's all we need. We have a seat for you. We will sit there. Crest falling in front row. We sit there, but if there isn't a way to work us into it, we will boo lustily throughout the show, however long it is.

How long is it an hour? Two hours? It's an hour. Okay. I was afraid you guys are going to milk it. It's a two-hour finale and then an hour long. The action show. So the studio audience is actually sitting there for three hours.

That's a bit of a milk, I got to say. But it's so worth it, though, isn't it? Absolutely. Three hours. In fact, Wednesday, next Wednesday at what time, Lindsay? 8. Eastern. 8 p.m. Eastern. That's when you could see that finale.

Yes. The top 100. 10 to 1. The big reveal, who is the greatest player in the NFL. Now, that leads us to our next topic. And, again, I don't want to, you know, make things weird. because Lindsay is the face of the top 100 countdown. And, you know, just saying.

You're making it weird just by the whole setup. I'm just saying. So don't want to make it weird. Some criticism might be coming down the pike. That's all. Okay. I feel like she could get personal. So this is a segment I like to call,

what's wrong with the top 100? Lindsay Rhodes is the host of the top 100 players of 2015, but is in no way affiliated with the voting process of the program. That's awesome So I think now that everything's out there And there's an official disclaimer Now we're safe to move on My feelings will not be hurt

Let me start right Let me start by just unveiling 20 through 11 which aired yesterday Great content by Lindsay I thought Yeah I made it all myself 20 Demarius Thomas of the Broncos 19 Patrick Peterson 18 Jordie Nelson 17 Revis Island

Love it 16 Levian Bell 15 Des Bryant Ooh we got the big boys now on this list. 14, Luke Keeckley, 13, Julio Jones, 12, Jamal Charles, and 11. Ooh, outside the top 10, Richard Sherman, which I'm sure.

Did he tweet about it? Probably in his mind, if not out in the earth. I didn't see a tweet. Des Bryant tweeted. I saw that. He tweeted L.O.L. Yep, at NFL Network, right? Yeah.

This all seems eminently reasonable. There's nothing offensive here at all. You made a comment when you read Derell Revis's name. Oh, I was happy. No, I was okay with it. He's in the top 20. If he would have been outside the top 20, I would have been upset.

Because Eric Davis was very upset that he was 17. He thought he should be higher. He said that he could make an argument for Drell Revis, why he should be number one overall. Let's hear it. E.D. Bring him in. E.D.

Wheel him in. We'll have him in handcuffs. I don't know why he would be in handcuffs. It's weird. Oh, because he would have to forcibly be on our show. It makes sense. All right. I like how you worked that out.

I got out of it. I got out of it. I got out. I got out. Wes and I just standing back. Yeah. have no problem with this 10 of course we don't does brian at 15 doesn't bother you the fact that the only thing that surprised me last night and i was maybe a little bit surprised that darrell revis

was not in the top 10 but not very and the fact that des brian ranked below julio jones surprised what's wrong with that i'm not saying that anything wrong with that i didn't i didn't see that coming at all because i think when you have conversations with people about who's the top receiver in the league for the last few years it's been obviously that's Calvin this is the first year a couple of years where you kind of have more of a conversation. And the names that get thrown out there in that conversation are Calvin, Antonio, and Des. That's only because Des plays for the Cowboys.

Really, though? Yeah, really. Julio Jones, look at what he did last year. 16 touchdowns last year for Des. Look at Julio Jones yards. Everyone knows that you're the guy getting the ball. Look at Julio Jones yards and everybody knows he's getting the ball. He's averaging over 100 yards.

They're separated by two spots. Roddy's not good anymore. I don't think I don't think Dez has reached his ceiling yet either he fades from their game plan

occasionally which is very strange and you don't see that from any of these other times He can only run like six or seven routes If you are starting a team from scratch For next year only Which wide receiver do you want to start with Between the two of them

I would go Julio Jones That's why I don't problem with him above O'Dell Beckham You would start your team with Julio Are we talking these two or are we talking anyone I would start O'Dell Beckham I think that's an easy decision

But O'Dell Beckham over, just for one year. I'm not saying like you're signing him for the life of his contract. Oh, for one year? Calvin Johnson. So right now. Calvin Johnson or O'Dell Beckham one or the other. I'd stick with Julio Jones. I'd stick with Des.

But back to the question, though, Julio Dez. Just one of those? I mean, it's a point. Well, he says Julio, obviously, if he'd take Julio over anyone. I'm a little nervous. Des is better in the red zone. Julio's better all over the rest of the field. I'll always be nervous about Julio Jones's foot, too, because you don't know.

What about Des Bryant's back? Or Des Bryant's extracurricular activities. fair points and listen that is a type of stuff that the top 100 brings debate healthy debate so let's now go now this is what now we're going to get to it now we're going to go around the horn twice which although it is the name of an ESPN program not affiliated and the intellectual property is not exclusive so we can't use the ours has twice in the title also anyone who's ever played little league baseball through the ball around the horn exactly the old around the horn double play five four three Anyone who ever sailed around Africa went around the horn.

Did that too. An effective call back to a dine sport. I was waiting for Mark to take an unfair shot. All right, Mark. We'll start with you. We're going to now each of us pick two names on the list. Now, Lindsay, I'm going to bring up the spreadsheet that has the entire list. So do not look.

Wait a minute. Listen, don't look. We have total access to the spreadsheet. You're not giving her the top ten. There is so much wrong with this, by the way. And I'm going to tell on you. Don't say anything. All right.

Now we're going to look only from 100 to 11. Okay. And we'll start with you, Mark. Name one of the players that have been revealed so far where you looked at and he said that guy is either way too high, way too low, or shouldn't be on the list at all. Well, it's easy for me because this is what gets me upset about the top 100 to start with is where the quarterback's place. Matt Ryan at 77.

And Mark's not kidding. He really does get upset. What's your problem with that? My problem is I just view this as valuable player. How much value does he bring to his team? Matt Ryan is more valuable than Send Derek Marks. I can't believe he's below Charles Woodson and Julius Thomas. You start a team with the guy like Matt Ryan,

and I think that some of the quarterbacks, they just had to find a place to put them, and there's what kind of season did the entire team have last year? A quarterback takes a hit on that big time with wins. And I look at Matt Ryan, and I say he should be a lot higher, on this list because a franchise quarterback is eminently more valuable than some of the schmows that are above them. I don't know what else to say.

Shmose is kind of a harsh turn. And by the way, he just threw Charles Woodson into the category of Schmoe. Well, no, I think that he, I respect Charles Woodson. And I know he's been attached to the show before, so I respect the guy, but he is, I would not say. This is why I had the disclaimer, by the way. Well, no, it's just this reason.

I think I look at it a little differently than what it may actually be, Charles Wilson's on there for reputation. That's what it is. Right, right. Here's what I would say to that. So the way that they vote, and I think I've said this before on the show, so I'm sorry if I'm repeating myself, guys get handed a blank list and it's one through 20.

And you say, who are the top 20 players in the league? And one is weighted higher than 20 on down. So my question is, who's putting Matt Ryan in their top 20? Who's putting Charles Woodson? Yeah, I mean, my problem is not so much that maybe some people don't see Matt Ryan in the top 20, but that some of these other guys that are shooting up ahead of them are getting votes. So maybe your issue is the way the list is made that would allow

Sundaric Marks to be ahead of Matt Ryan. Well, I don't have a problem with maybe where Matt Ryan places among other quarterbacks, but yes, when you have Sonderek Marks ahead of him, I just have a hard time saying that he is a better or more valuable player. Okay. Wes, your turn. I don't want to defy you in any way. Can I put both of my guys here? Because they're kind of related.

Yeah, go ahead. So I've got Odell Beckham and Adrian Peterson. I think Beckham was 32 and Peterson was 62. From the time Odell Beckham hit the starting lineup, he was the best receiver in the NFL last year. And I don't think that's even debatable. It's on film and the numbers show it. However you want to sell it.

Now, his detractors really here are crazy because they point to the catch and they think he's only famous because of the catch. But really, the film, shows everything that he's just really that good. And the catch really has nothing to do with it. I mean, he's just really, he's unstoppable. So how can you get better than unstoppable?

Okay, let me jump in. So who that is ahead of him at his position would put him ahead of? Every single one of them. This is the purpose. So he's better already than Demarius Thomas, Jordy, Nellon, Des Bryant? Yes. The purpose of this list is how good are you going into 2015, right? Yes.

Right. From everything we've seen at O'Dell Beckham from the, time he hit the starting lineup, he was better than all of those wide receivers. Okay. I think I can help a little bit if there's any disconnect. Lindsay, Wes has something that's called the stable of boys. And within this stable, there are certain players that are Wes's boys that he keeps in a stable and they're all to himself. And no one else knows about it.

And Wes visits it and they hang out. That's all fun and game. Now, wait, wait, wait, let me finish. Now, but it's a very real thing. It's Wes's guys that he loves. O'Dell Beckham stands above all those other stable of boys guys and he even has a penthouse in the stable that's just O'Dell Beckham so that's why Wes is so passionate because it's his favorite player in football

I'm that passionate because if you watch these players play and a lot of analysts do this for a living if you watch O'Dell Beckham play and you don't walk away thinking he's one of the best players in the NFL your eye for football doesn't work it just doesn't I think the question is so we've seen him do it for however many games he played last year. 12. Okay, there you go. Thank you.

I was hoping somebody was going to jump in the exact number. So 12 games. And I think a lot of people just want to see him do it again. They want to see defenses adjust. They want to see him with a legitimate wide receiver on the other side. Yeah, that's fair. And you have to, and what about the idea of this list? Coming into 32 after one year,

has anyone ever been that high on this list in the six years or whatever that we've done this after one season. Andrew Luck is one of the few. Okay. But it shows you. I think part of what you said before with Charles Woodson is the respect factor, right? Well, the problem with this list is that it's supposed to be how good is this player going into the 2015 season.

And this is where I bring in Adrian Peterson as well. Because last year we dealt with the same thing with Julio Jones, who didn't make the top 100 because he missed 11 games. So if you're injured the previous year, the players forget about you. So Adrian Peterson missed 15 games. The players put him at 62. And I guess my point is you could make the argument Adrian Peterson is the best running back in the NFL.

O'Do Beckin is the best wide receiver. These guys are top five NFL players, not 32 and 62. Yeah, I would say I think Peterson was near the top five last year, right? Yeah, he tumbled like... He was number four. Tumbled 61 spots. Obviously is a fair spot for him. And I guess I don't have a problem with after missing the entire season

and maybe docking him a little bit, and it's a little show me that you still are the top five guy. I get why he's lower. I don't even think it has anything to do with that. I don't think anyone thinks that he's the 60-second best player in the league. I think what you have here are players that vote based on 2014. So they say he didn't play in 2014, so I can't put him on my list at all. And then you have other players that say,

who's the best player in the league? Well, clearly it's Adrian Peterson, and he's near the top of their list. So that's how he ends up in the middle. It's like when Peyton didn't. play the year that he didn't say he was 50 exactly clarification when they go into the voters booth i i agree but that's not my i'm tilting at windmills here i'll uh i would like to sit next to every uh i'd like to hand out i'd like to say that you should have like a security

jacket on here is the criteria is we don't have to argue about it mm-hmm um i'd love that could you tell nfl dot com readers the same all uh you know the reputation thing they got the i know the players they vote on this they respect these guys but i'll i'll name both of mine right now and then we'll throw it back to you mark to close it but adam vintieri who had a very nice season at age 7000 or whatever it is uh i i love me some adam even as a jets fan i respect vintyri for what he's done in his career and he's going to the hall of fame or he should but he is not the 98th best player in the NFL well and by the way randalladob two spots below him are you trying to show me one gm and i know that's not the qualifications that would take

calais campbell he's also below him this is easy randallocob just signed for 10 million dollar a year let me when Venetary makes $10 million in a five-year span or whatever. So, well, I almost have to hand it to the players for showing a little bit of respect. For kickers who are part of the game, he shouldn't be here. Come on. Enough at him. You've had a nice life. And the other one I have an issue with, I want you to at least stats, all right?

I'm sure you could guess who this is. But here we go. 67% completion percentage, 4,9502 yards, 32 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 103.3.3. pass rating. That's Ben Rathelsberger. It's ridiculous. And this guy is incredible, and he's been incredible for many years, and he's actually getting better now that he's around a great offense.

So his placement, I believe he is in... He is 26. 26. Well, that is, you know, that's great shakes. That's a nice spot to be. I think Ben Rathosberger has earned the right to be thought of as maybe a top 10 player, or at the very least to be in the group that was revealed on Wednesday, which is in that next tier up, 20 to 11, which are some real heavy hitters.

Ben Roblesberger is a Hall of Famer and a guy in his prime right now that's just going to break every record the Steelers I've ever had, or he already has probably, he should be higher on this list. One note on Ben, because this was where I wanted to go initially before Dan Pick Ben, was that as someone that's watched Big Ben torch the Cleveland Browns 4,000 times, we've had Joe Hayden and Joe Thomas in our team during many of those losses, two great players and foundational players. But you cannot tell me that if you switched in a roster switch,

you gave the Steelers Joe Hayden and you gave the Browns, Ben Rothesberger, for the next four years, that the Browns aren't a much better team. The Browns would trade Joe Thomas and Joe Hayden for Bigger. Absolutely, because it comes down for me with this as positional value too, and Big Ben belongs 20 spots hired.

I've no problem with it. And I'm looking at Lindsay, the 20 through 11 reveal. Did we have any QBs on that? I believe we did not. We didn't. So do you know how many are left? Four. Four left.

That's good. And I guess we can, you know, take a guess what they are. But I would say any of the four that have... It's clearly Rogers, Brady, Peyton, and Luck. Okay. So are we upset that Ralthusberger is behind those guys? Should he be ahead of... It should be way ahead of Peyton Manning.

No. Way ahead of Peyton Manning. This is the way you remember that the players vote and the player respect for Peyton Manning? See that? You're right. he's right way off the guards is that not valid though Peyton is no I totally agree we're not voting for 2013 we're voting for right but I thought we were couldn't throw the last eight games of the year so I thought we were also saying he was hurt and he's healthy now so I you don't know if he is you have no idea just like you don't know if Adrian Peterson's the same guy anymore no no no there's no injury concerns with Adrian Peterson we don't know if Peyton Manning can throw we don't know that he can't and until I know that Peyton Manning cannot throw I want Peyton Manning every day week as my friend But we do know that he was the problem in their loss to the Colts because he couldn't throw.

And we don't. To me, that's on tape. That happened. So you have to consider it. The problem isn't Peyton Manning being in the top 10 because you simply can't ask NFL players to vote differently at this point after what he's been in the league. The problem is Big Ben being disrespected the way he was. Something's wrong in the perception there. No, I agree.

I do wonder Russell Wilson is ahead of him. And I probably wouldn't have done that myself. And Russell Wilson, by the way, I wrote our reaction piece last week. It's just the way sports work if they hand it off to Marshawn Lynch or Malcolm Butler doesn't exist and they win the second Super Bowl. I think Russell Wilson's a top 10 player on this list. But it's just one play can do that. Good point.

It's that big. See, I think it's interesting, Seth, because you're looking at this list more from like this guy is 27 and there's no way or, well, specifically Ben Rothesberger is 26. And there's no way there's 25 players that you'd rather take prior to drafting Ben Rathlisberger for your team. I tend to look at it more as like positional rankings because I think it makes sense that you're only going to, if you're listing 20 names, you're only going to come up with a handful

of quarterbacks and then you're going to go, okay, who else is really good? Who's the best cornerback? Oh, I'm going to vote for that guy. Who's the best safety, that guy? Who's the best defensive tackle? You're going to throw other positions on there so that you fill out your list. So I never get really hung up on the fact that he's lower on the list, although I think that's a totally valid way of looking at it.

Obviously, it's the top 100, not the top six corners in the top 12 running backs. I think you're absolutely right. And I know I realize I'm kind of just spitting in the wind on this. But it's like I would like the top 10 or 15 just to be quarterbacks. But that's just not what the exercise is. And I get that. We talk about coming up with natural nicknames. We struggled with my nickname with Lindsay,

but naturally you just dropped the cess at Mark. That's what it's about. That's natural. That's pure. But that's like half of his name. That's not even like, that's not a witty nickname that I just came up with. But I just think it speaks to the growing bond

of the four people in this room right now. By the way, I get ripped on Twitter for not having come through on the old Zozer. People are very angry. Are they? Listen, I love our. Well, there are probably about three people that are very good. Yeah, it's really crazy.

They're loud, though. Yes. But, yeah, listen, Lindsay did the best she could. I mean, she failed. But, you know, she tried. All right, let's move on. That's it. That's the top 100.

And again, Lindsay hosting the Top 100 reaction show immediately following the two hour. Yes. A little bloated, but two hour. Tuesday night at 10 p.m. Eastern, we have a one-hour review preview show. Ooh, fun. So if you need to get caught up on what you have missed so far, if you have, God forbid, missed any of the shows. Bro, you've got to be a completest here.

Exactly. Dan, you know, very smoothly going right past my second gripe with the list. I think I've had enough gripes. I've had enough gripes. All right, throw it out there. I'll be quick. I just think Vante Davis, 59, you kidding me? Come on, shut down corner.

He's the last rated cornerback. You want to take Vante Davis over Connor Barwin? I think it might have something to do with. They even showed it today on NFL Network, the Hard Knocks episode where he cried and called his, grandmother when he got traded from the dolphins. Players have not forgotten that yet. Why, that seems tender and human.

Not in the NFL. There's no such thing as being tender. All right. Anyways, that's the end of mine. Sorry about that, Mark. Sess. Sorry, old Sess. All right, moving on. Hey, before we get to the mailbag and, of course, Connor, or who again, I tell Connor a certain time it's going to happen and it just leaves the guy by the phone in the

woods in New Jersey. It's going to be a little later, Connor. Sorry about that, buddy. But let's stop down a second. and we picked our favorite 90s one-hit wonder. And on Wednesday, Lindsay was hard planning a T.A. I think you were doing total access a couple days ago. Or was the top 100 prep, whatever.

And I said, I'm just going to leave this Post-it right here on your desk. What's your favorite one-hit wonder of the 90s? I'm too busy for you to talk to me. Exactly. Put it in writing. No eye contact allowed with Lindsay when I'm not in the studio. Just a hand straight up in the air. No time.

Lindsay didn't come through on my nickname, did come through. with her one-hit wonder, and here it is. Now. This is, Lindsay, introduce it, please. Just a friend, Ms. Marquis. Yes. I mean, this puts a smile on your face. It does, absolutely.

There are a lot of songs from the 90s, and I will admit I googled one-hit wonders from the 90s just to refresh my memory. That's fine. And a lot of them were like, I don't really, if that song comes on, I'm kind of annoyed. Like, it's played too much. No, but this one makes me smile.

And you don't really hear it very frequently. This was one of my finalists. Yes, it was. And in fact, it's fun. I knew there was something about US. And then there was the video which I watched today, which was funny. It opens with Biz Marquis and his friends all piled onto a park bench. It's the most homerotic thing since Rocky and Apollo on the beach in Rocky, too.

I mean, these guys are all over each other. It's nice to see, though. They're friends. Am I allowed to talk about that? I don't know. It seems fun. Oh, listen. But you say he's just a friend.

But you say he's just a friend. Oh, baby, you. Lindsay, taking it to the limit. See, this is authentic. This is the story of my entire high school experience this song. It is. The lyrics really do check out. I agree with you, Mark.

So anyway, there it is. Lindsay's one hit wonder. TD, do you have one you wanted to share? Oh, man. Nineties music, man. Man, that's where I grew up. So I got, I got something. All right, let's hear it.

All right, you want to hear it? All right, let's do it. Mine out of here, this one, but it's a classic. Whoa. This was my number two. During your suspension. Eagle-Echerry. Eagle-I cherry.

Safe tonight. A great video, by the way. Fantastic. This is me, 11-year-old me, summertime in London. Spentenalent, spent a lot of summers during the late 90s in London, and just going through the tube, going from Madoville to Piccadilly Circus. and truck a darrow and having a fun time. Like some 90s song, and even, I love the Bismarkey song,

but it's a little, like, you know, kitschy and a little fun in a cheesy way. That's just a legitimately great song. Good song. I'm just all in on Eagle Island. Bears a striking. Where'd you go, buddy? To Webster Slaughter, by the way.

There's the football time. Wasn't he, his sister was like Nina Cherry? Yep, yep. He came and went very quickly. But Nina Cherry? Great choice. Was that the Buffalo? Buffalo stance.

Yeah, Buffalo stance. Dedy, I was predicting Camp Lowe for you. See, I wanted to go to something different. I want to go to something that, you know, and I went back home a couple, like a month ago for my sister's wedding, and for some reason this song came back up, and I was like, man, it took me way back to the good old days. Like I said, it's 90s music.

I was like five. Can I drop one more? Possible to drop one more. Uh, real quick. Sure, go ahead. All right, all right. It's another 90s classic from the lunch in summer days. Ooh, I like this one back, too.

This is good. There you go. You can only play this during the summer. And I feel like you almost have to be driving a convertible or something. Fast moving the video, which randomly directed by a Tim Story, who did Fantastic Four, think like a man, random. But it's essentially just what Lindsay described. A lot of fast moving, a lot of pace.

You know, that's good, too. Good pick, TD. The producer's always looking to drop two or more. Sully tried to do the same thing. He told me. He picked blue, though, which is obviously. Eiffel 39? 65, there we go.

Classic. All right, that's good. All right, so let's hit the mailbag. Good job, everybody. A lot of good choices. We should put together some type of a Spotify playlist with our one-hit wonders. Well, not if that's what they are. Yeah, horrifying.

Right? That's, yeah. That's true. So let's go through the mailbag and hit some questions. before we get Connor on the phone. How about this one? This one, Tim Cummings at Tim C, 0212, which written off team is most likely to shock us all

and win double-digit games. So let's go with teams. And actually, here's a good way to do this. We, on our last week's show, we picked 10 teams that we said had no chance to go to the Super Bowl. So let me just pull that up. Oh, and the Bengals don't count.

And we're not counting the Bengals. And my mailbag, I pulled them out too. Because they're going to win 10 games and then lose the first game Exactly Well it's been to four straight playoffs So that's not a shocker They're going to do what they do In retrospect when I was writing in the mailbox

We probably should have pulled them Because they definitely stick out like sort of thumb But it's an emotional pick The Bengals here Here are the 10 teams ready Or nine teams I should say That we decided We're out

In terms of winning a Super Bowl So which one of these teams could win 10 games Is the question here we go Bears Buccaneers Browns Jaguars Raiders, Redskins, Texans, Titans, and the Niners.

Mark, I'll start with you. I'll go Texans. I mean, they won nine last year. I like their coach. I think that they, I don't like their quarterback situation at all, but that's a soft division that you can probably continue to inflate your win total. And if things went right, they could win 10. I'll agree with that one.

I think they're actually going to have fewer wins this year because their schedule is much harder. But out of all of these teams, I think they have the most talent. And I could see, I've knocked Brian Hoyer quite a bit, but I could see him at the command of a ball control offense that wins 10 games. You know what? Mark, the Browns were 8 and 3 last year.

No, they were 7 and 9. No, but they were 8 and 3 at 1 point. 7 and 4. 7 and 4. And then their quarterback play fell apart. There's still pieces on this roster. What if, just what if Josh McCown was good or decent? It's not crazy that the Browns could win 10 games.

I'm going to say the Browns of that list have a chance to win 10 games. That division, though, is what I would say is the opposite of the AFC South. Mark's not having your hope this year. I know. I'm trying hard to get it in you. How about the, how about the, poor choice of words? How about the Bucks and James Winston in a bad division hits the ground running? They don't have enough.

And away we go. No. They don't have enough depth and not enough good players. All right. And that's, they've just got so far to go. I agree. All right. So both mine are terrible.

That's fine. Lindsay. I guess I like the Texans. I think that's a good option. I don't believe in this at all. But maybe the Bears just because they're the closest already. Like if for whatever reason Jay Cutler doesn't suck next year, then maybe. Good coaching staff.

I mean, good coordinators. Defense obviously needs some work. but I think they're... I feel like they're the closest. The problem on defense. And last year, that was inexplicable. Like, why were they as bad as they were? It doesn't make any sense to me.

They quit on the coach. Yeah, I think the floor fell out. You figure that has to be the anomaly. Yeah. I think the problem on defense is that all of their players are suited for the four three scheme that they had and now they're running a three, four. And it's opposite of Denver where they're bringing in a three four and all their players actually fit the three four.

So I think it's more of a, they're going to need a couple of years before they draft the right players for their system. This is one of the questions I really like that we got. This from Chris Blystone at Chris Blystone. If your team could have J.J. Watt or two first round picks in 2016 and again in 2017, what are you taking? Lindsay, you seem to that. First round picks.

So you're talking four number one. Four number ones. Do we know where those number one picks are going to be? Good point, Wes. And I know clearly you read my mailback. I do read all of you work. I said the same thing. I need to know more info because if they're four.

top 10 picks and let's say in number one I'm still thinking about it but at the end unless there's an Andrew luck uh you know type guy there I am sticking with who the player that could end up being the greatest defensive lineman in the history of the game so I say no with qualified could end up being the greatest defensive player in the history potentially it's that the ceiling's that high I tend to agree with you unless I'm guaranteed that those picks are in the top 10 I think I'd stick with the guy who's a game changer I think it also depends what your team is. Are you, you've got multiple holes all over the place

and you're going to just take JJ Watt. I'm going to look at this from a losing team that needs to fill quarterback and other things. I'll go to the picks. So you can get Brandon Whedon and Johnny Manzell. Well, hopefully I would do a better job than that. Better than that, yeah. That's fair.

All right, next one. I think you need the picks. And I find out it's four number 32 picks and I made a terrible choice. Oh, another callback to our one-hit wonder discussion. This is from Alani at a perk oh-h. Okay. How bizarre OMC totally overlooked during both my mailbag.

And Sully seriously undersold Deep Blue Something radio. So Sully, behind the glass there, Lindsay, that's the man with the mustache. On his Pandora, he puts Deep Blue Something or Breakfast at Tiffany's. You remember that song? Yeah. That is the song. he tells the computer or the hard drive of the Pandora, however it works, use that to find all other different songs.

Wait, Breakfast at Tiffany's? Yeah, well, pretty much every song we've listed, it's on that playlist. Like Eagle Eye Cherry, Take Me Higher, like all those, like all the ones, the Sunshine song you picked. Steal my sunshine. Still my sunshine. It's all on there. I almost went how bizarre, but I can't put it above some of the others. Can we hear some of how bizarre?

because if my memory is not, you know, wronging me, this was one of the worst songs ever. Well, and it's like Lindsay said, annoying. This was, this was awful. This was so bad. This song, it doesn't bother me. All right, wait a second, I like it. It had its moments, but it is genuinely annoying.

If it's playing on the radio, are you stopping and listening? Great question. No. I'm out. I'm out. You're out already? I'm probably playing. I like this song.

I mean, I've heard it. It's had its moment. I'm over it. Granted, you have to wait like a minute before you even get to the first good drop. It's got time for that. It's tedious. Ain't nobody got time for that. All right.

We'll do one more and then we'll get Connor on the phone. It's all right. Not good enough. Not good enough. Oh, there's some judgment. I'm going to start calling out names. This is Eric Robertson. That boat.

tie. What one NFL player do you take with you into the world of Mad Max? I answered this in the mailbag. What's Mad Max? I haven't been familiar. You're not familiar either? It is an outrageous post-apocalyptic movie where you go on. Mark, you and I can answer this one. Yeah.

Like what? It's like a 20-mile journey in one direction and then back. It's just, yeah, an all-out, total nihilistic. Everyone out for their own best interest to get just goods or oil. You need somebody on your side. It's a death match, basically. I'm picking JJ Watt. How is this not J.J. Watt?

Well, I like J.J. Watt. I'm having a tough time thinking of someone. You need number one, an amazing, someone who can drive well. The best driver in the entire NFL. Because the whole movie, it's all vehicle based on Warfield. I'm not sure J.J. Watt is that guy. Dan Pasterini. No, I'm not going Dan Pasterini.

I had to think more about this. Drag racers. The only player I've even seen. Drive is Peyton where he's like Orange Burl, Orange Burrow, rerout. I ain't taking him. No, I would not be taking Peyton Manning in a Mad Max scenario. His head would literally fall off when they

You have to go. J.J. Watt is the best answer. There's no way he's losing. For lack of any better pick. I don't know. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm getting tired of the whole J.J. Watt day. Oh, J.J. Y.J. Y. There's been a little bit of over exposure this office. A little bit. Well, Hard Knocks is coming.

Henry made the same point recently, but still, I mean, he's great. You can't take that away. Well, no, for sure. but this is the off-field persona has always become a bit of a caricature now almost a little bit. It's like, come on, JJ. Slow it down a little.

You know, stop tackling. Stop staging, tackling guys. The tackle at the crowd band concert. Yes. That was a little much. Finally. I'm sure it was fun for those in attendance, though, and that's really what was meant for.

We have to send that sound to JJ Watt from us. Finally, this is from Stephen at Durenho. Will you please play the San Diego Supercharger song and brighten up my week? I think we can do that, right? T.D. I always thought I saw this Maybe you should do the sad version

Because Antonio Gates got suspended But maybe it's better to do the happy version Just because you know what Life is good It's your final year in San Diego They were a monumental mistake As the team of ATL Steve yes

Stephen no were they the team I don't remember anymore See that's how bad they were Yeah well Stephen from Glasgow Scotland So let's let's cheer him up If a TD can come up With the song on that board Hold up.

Got it. Nice. Van Diego. Supercharges. San Diego. Superchargers. Dan. It's called a falsetto, Lindsay.

He loves that song. Who was that for? That was for Stephen. Our host has such a myriad of mental issues that it plays out in our favor of every show. I thought you were going to say skills, but okay. I did not think mental issues was coming out of his mouth next time. That was not fair, Mark. That's going to cost you at the end.

MVP, right? TD? Oh, yeah, I was in the run in for that. We'll see. Yeah. All right. There you go, Stephen. And Antonio Gates is coming back.

Don't worry. All right, that's it for the mailbag. Before we go, here we go. It's time to get them on the phone. You know, this is the third time we've done this segment now, and it's an important segment because Connor or our New Jersey correspondent, Lindsay, he's a great writer, former beat reporter for the Jets and Giants for the Star Ledger. Familiar.

But at the same time. Sometimes he's got to get stuff off his chest. And if he doesn't, he just explodes. He's basically the Incredible Hulk in real life. T.D., you'll get that reference. So that's why we bring him on the line. And it's a game or a segment we like to call. Are you kidding me?

Connor, are you there? I'm here. What's going on? On her off day. Hand buried in her face. I can't believe this is why she's here. Welcome, Connor, back for the third second. Now, with each time, after the second time, we put it out in Twitter.

Hey, should we keep doing this? Overwhelmingly. Oh, yeah. In fact, I didn't get a single person on my feet. I don't know about you guys that said get rid of that Connor or. I did get one person that said the guitar squealing was better than Connor or. But nobody said they didn't like Connor or. So, Connor, you're back.

Not in those words exactly. Right. Is that what she just implied? So, Connor, you're back, though, and we just picked you up for the full season. So let's get going on a good note. Well, you know, what's bothering you this week? I would have to say, you know, based on just some of the research that I've done recently on Twitter, I think that we can probably can our excitement and amazement over athletes being good at other sports

besides the one that they're currently professional with. like, you know, like, Odell Beckham throwing a softball for a strike was just the most amazing thing. I think that half of the people in the world has ever seen their lives. You know, Connor, this is, that is a long time. That was very long. Connor, this is, I need you to understand the beats of your segment. You know, try to parse it out a little bit so we can drop in one of these bad boys.

All right, go on. So, you're saying that we shouldn't be getting so excited. about Odell Beckham or any of these athletes JJ Watt on skates J.J. Wad on skates. Just that they're athletic because, of course, they're athletic, right? Well, it's just like the best athlete at your high school was the only good at one

sport, you know? Like, or, like, I can drive a car. The Jack Rules. That one didn't deserve it. Yeah, don't sell yourself short. Are you kidding me? Keep confident. Yeah, but I mean, like, I can drive a car and a truck. Isn't that amazing?

A car and a truck. This guy can drive multiple vehicles. But if you put that on Instagram, nobody cares. You know, I've tried. Nobody cares, you know. So maybe it's just me. I don't know. Maybe it's just me.

It's legitimate. This is a valid concern. Your thoughts, Lindsay. Well, this speaks to the overexposure that I was just referencing. Like, it gets to a point where maybe one thing like this per off season is good and fun. Isn't it just because it's June and July, and there's nothing else to talk about? So you have to stretch for O'Dell Beckham throwing a strike at a softball? So, Connor, you're saying that these athletes, it's a little, they're being a little braggard.

It's like, enough. No more, just stick to your sport. We know you're going to do anything, everything else. We don't need to hear about it. Well, the job is to professionally be in shape, and I think that comes with certain skill sets. Like, O'Don Beckham has to throw a million football. So, like, presumably you'd be able to throw a softball straight, right? There seems to be some crossover there.

No fatty's allowed. We're all in shape or pros. Connor, how do you feel about Snapchat? What's Snapchat? I mean, if it's used in the right way, I love it, you know? What is the right way? That's a good question. I think the right way is to like to wish your friend a happy birthday,

but like in a visual way, like to just take a picture of your face and then draw a hat on top of it and then like, you know, put some. music on it. I think that. Don't be afraid to be wacky. They're your friends after all. What does Snapchat offer that Facebook or text messaging does not? The ability to go away.

It deletes itself after a certain period of time. Really, it's the ability to be shady. That's a, yes. How is that good? No consequence. Wes, you're not potentially the target audience I can't get on. I have no idea what it is. I'm just asking what it's You're not going to be satisfied with

anyone's explanation of what it is. I can't promise. So, in summation, Connor, enough with the athletes showing off. And the Snapchat, use it right? You creeps, right? Is that what you're saying? I think so. I feel like, just do it in your own sport. Stay in your way.

And your final comment, of course. Or are you kidding me? There it is. That's it. Have a nice weekend, Connor, Orr. I was waiting for that. Happy Fourth of July, everybody. Goodbye.

Goodbye. Bye, Connor. Nice meeting you. I have some constructive criticism for that segment. Go ahead. Let's hear it. Okay. I feel like it needs to start with an, or are you kidding me this? Or like every single one, like you need that thrown throughout it to really drive the segment home. Like this is why it's called, or are you kidding me? You're saying less guitar anthems.

Or he could emphasize his point with or you kidding. Yeah, that's stuff that's, we'll have a private. But more frequently. And then after he says, are you kidding me? After the or, you're kidding me, then you do the guitar. There you go. All right, we're workshopping it. Live on the podcast.

He really needs to turn himself into more of a caricature. From his angle, it was tough to get probably a word out. There's an outrageous guitar playing. That's a recurring, you know. That's part of the bit. And for those that don't know, I have my sound job board, but that really is all dead. He actually has a guitar in this hand that he's just. That's sniffing.

Well, last week we said it was Connor playing the guitar. Don't reveal that, T.D. He also refuses to put. any enthusiasm whatsoever into the, or you kidding me. That's my favorite part. That's mine, too. You were like, and finally, he's like, or are you kidding me? All right. That's it. That's it for the show. And Lindsay, thank you so much

for joining us once again. It was, you know, really delightful. Thanks for having me. Yeah, and good luck to you in the top ten reveal. We will not tell you what they are. You will find out on your own time. That is so messed up. I know. We're going to talk to the bosses after this. All right, so that's it. Dan, we're going to win MVP, but you had to go forget about it again.

So, I mean So with that being said He gives away an MVP every show I would say Well, Lindsay's won it before She knows Yeah You know it's a feeling we've all experienced

Except Mark But um Oh So a happy West is an MVP West Oh yeah Wes is happy today He's been a good mood A lot of, you know

Yeah Debating if it's about Some new women in his life I know I think it is What? He revealed before the show He started watching Game of Thrones He's getting into it

He doesn't want to admit He's getting into it That's not really why I'm not really all in anyway when the smoke monster from loss showed up that really i don't know and then the snow zombies or whatever they are i don't really get into that you get you're so far behind yeah yeah your MVP's already betrayed you nice job and you and he really wasn't also spoiler alert for those people from three years ago it's about time they killed off i added nothing to the show whatsoever

it was an absolute creek spoiler if we have to the you know leap that out we yeah all right yeah we go let's get out of here uh this is uh dan hansis sign signing off for the Quiet Storm, the mailman, Linz, did we come up with this yet? Lindsay Rhodes. Lins and Sess. The old Lins and Sess show.

And T.D. Lido and Stitch. And Daddy Rich. Behind the glass. This is Daddy Rich signing off. Until next week. Click that for your Emmy Reel. This is an IHeart podcast.