NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Top 99 free agents

Episode Date: March 2, 2016

A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Chris Wesseling, and Gregg Rosenthal – discuss all the latest news from around the NFL, including Eagles quarterback Sam Bradford signing a $3...6 million contract extension, and the Redskins using the franchise tag on quarterback Kirk Cousins. Then, the heroes break down their top 99 free agents of the 2016 season - including which players will be the most overpaid this offseason, and which players will end up being the best value.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:02 Hey, Dan. I am so excited for today's show. It's exciting. I mean, let's put it right there. Exactly. It's very exciting, Mark. Once a year, we look at the list that the scientists, Chris Wesleying and Greg Rosenthal, put together the top – it used to be the top 101.
Starting point is 00:02:26 now it's the top 99 free agent list and this is the year I mean this is the show where we break down that list the whole year is basically leading to this point you got the regular season in the Super Bowl and it all culminates right now with a very sick Chris Wessling and a lot of heat talking about Jason Pierre Paul in our top 99 and we got some news there's a lot going on what does handsome Hank have against the number 100. Handsome Hank is our programming director on NFL.com. I guess he asked you guys to knock it down to 99. Well, it was on the NFL.com slash free agency tracker,
Starting point is 00:03:05 which won't be ready yet. So actually still go to slash top 99. It can't handle three digits. Two digits is cool. 99. Wait, what? You put it into the system, three digits. It's just here's the good news and all that.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And Sidney, behind the glass now just two shows are raining with Sid. But when Lassin and I get together, we just make magic. And this being a top 99 actually worked out because now we have this. If you having free agency problems, I feel bad for you, son. I've got 99 problems, but free agency. Yes. What a theme song. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Is that not the greatest thing ever? Dan has been in the best mood all day because of this. and he was ready to drop it on us. And it came correct. It lived up to the hype. And this is why I love Sydney as a producer. It doesn't matter what the idea is. She just knows.
Starting point is 00:04:00 We're just on the same wavelength. And the Irishman, Brandon McGinnis, who will be taking over for Sydney when she heads to the Magic Kingdom for five months, he should be taking notes because Sydney and I are just on just a magical wavelength. On point, on point. He's like chomping at the bit, though.
Starting point is 00:04:18 He's ready to do. get out of you a little longer it bothers you a little bit though that because this is like mark said the california labor laws that you have to leave brandon is here well unless a shadowy league figure stepped up and just gave her a full-time job right and we're happy to have brandon sully back but in the same way like it's the first day of school and they're like the freshman and then you're the senior that's gone so you're like old news is a feel that way in the blue room at all a little bit feels like i don't know like i've like we've got like a family here and it's like oh we're shipping you off to college later We've got new kids now.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And now here comes, you know, a new stepdad ready to make his own rules, ruin the party. Yeah, but we're happy to have Brandon back as well. It's, uh, we're, we're blessed, hashtag blessed to have a lot of good people working behind the glass. Uh, so Sidney's with us for two more shows. So yes, this is the top 99 spectacular special for the around the NFL podcast. Uh, before we get into that, we will hit some news because there's a lot of news to get to because, listen, free agency. This is the business time. This is where money gets made.
Starting point is 00:05:20 This is how GMs get hired and fired. It's all around this week. So there's a lot of movement going on before free agency kicks off, Greg, next Wednesday. Well, that's true. And the legal tampering, as it's called, period starts on Monday. It's usually on the weekend. They kind of have switched the schedule around a little bit. It's usually useless.
Starting point is 00:05:40 That's true. And so they shortened it with the uselessness in mind. So I think a lot of these items of news are going to be popping up next Monday, Tuesday. deals will be getting done but it's true we have five months a show four months of shows till we get to training camp and for the most part we're talking about what happens over the next two weeks for those four months i mean that those are all the different changes it's all happening now it's all happening the draft as penny lane once said and almost famous uh west thank you for coming in today you're welcome because this is such an important show because
Starting point is 00:06:12 the scientists and i think if you follow the around the NFL crew on twitter um they have have actual heat downstairs in the newsroom trying to slot in some of these guys in the top 99. I had a video that I put up on Twitter at Dan Hansis that really illustrated that a little bit yesterday. But now we're going to get to see it with the mics on. Just because the mics go on, Mark, doesn't mean the gloves don't come off. No, and there have been countless moments. I mean, some of it caught on the show, but really a lot of times just our working environment, Dan, downstairs, where things become uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Oh, please. For you, you like it. You like mixing it up and being contrarian and telling West. West could tell you there's four car tires on a car. You'd say, no, there's not. And then it's like, you know, it's just Dan and I just dealing with it. And really the rest of the newsroom. The real narrative that you guys like to make up these narratives,
Starting point is 00:07:03 oh, you guys are fighting. We agreed on 95% of it. It's insane how much is similar. But when we have a little disagreements, we're going to stay. Way to set up the segment. You know what I miss? I miss the signs drop with the bubbles. Oh, well, stay tuned.
Starting point is 00:07:17 You might just get lucky. Le Cid, before we get to the top 99, let's do some news. Doctors say he's got a 50-50 chance of living. No, there's only a 10% chance of that. That was a request on my part. Usually Sidney handles the drops, but that was George Kennedy, who, of course, played Ed in the Naked Gun series. My favorite comedy of all time, Frank Drevin's sidekick.
Starting point is 00:07:45 referring to O.J. Simpson's character in that scene. Oscar winner. I didn't know that about George Jimmy. Also in huge role in Cool Hand Luke. Yes. But I never saw that movie. It is interesting that Dan always mocks Wes for his like uncle. He likes Uncle Humor movies, but his favorite movies, the Naked Gun.
Starting point is 00:08:07 That's about his uncle's humor as you get. You just said it's your favorite comedy. Yeah, favorite comedy. Okay. Cool Hand Luke, a classic. And by the way, I'm sure. sure it'll be on connor's list to watch there's no there's nothing uncle humor about naked gun it's it's it's irreverent it was ahead of it just means you're a little younger i'm just saying the young listeners out there people who are 20 years old right now i like naked gun i like naked gun i love
Starting point is 00:08:29 it gregg's favorite comedy ever is the hangover part part three that's how he no that's not sure rush more even seen it i love naked gun all right let's do some news you know respect the dead gregg can we get down to business yes here we go sam bradford we'll start right there you want talk about business. He's doing big business all throughout his career. He can be a not so good quarterback and make a ton of money. That's what Sam Bradford has taught us. He agreed to a two-year, $36 million deal with the Eagles. The agreement came on Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Rapsheet reports that Bradford will receive $22 million guaranteed at signing, which balloons to $26 million when injury guarantees are added, an $11 million signing bonus, I mean, $7 million, salary and all these these numbers i don't know what any of them mean there's this thing and i'm probably behind on this but it's blowing my mind now there's a difference between guaranteed money and fully guaranteed money it's like can we just work something out that's a little more clear football world can we do that but all we do know is that san bradford paid big money the eagles are staying in business of san bradford and west you're not happy about it well he's by all accounts a perfectly
Starting point is 00:09:40 nice guy i'm glad he's getting paid but yeah the idea that he's made three $3 million per win in his career is crazy to me. Yikes. What is it? So 25 wins, $75 million so far. He's made $78 million. And he's going to make, I think, $100, what's the math on that, $114 million if he makes it through both the years on this contract.
Starting point is 00:10:02 So a nice way to make a living. Well, he timed it perfectly being the number one overall pick before the new rookie wage scale came in. And this goes to what I was talking about the other day. How much would Tom Brady make on the open market in the middle of? his prime if there's no salary cap. This is kind of the cost of doing business. I think we have a problem with it in this room because Sam Bradford has shown over a long track record at this point that he's not a difference maker, that you're basically saying this is what a league average
Starting point is 00:10:30 quarterback is worth, and we're hoping Sam Bradford's a league average quarterback and is starting for us because that's what he's shown in a best case scenario he's going to be. I mean, I think it's not it's not Bradford's fault that he was the last number one pick under that outrage just rookie pay scale. It is the Eagles fault if they go out and say this is the best we can do at this position. That said, if you, and I'm not a fan of it at all. I just, I find Sam Bradford, you could put a top 10 moments and you'd stop around four or five and be like, there's nothing left.
Starting point is 00:11:00 There's nothing left. If you count preseason, you have a full top. Sure. I mean, I understand his 10 attempts last August were, you know, set the earth on fire. But, I mean, if you're Philadelphia, like you're, you are in a conundrum if you let them go because you you yeah we can talk about chase daniel being the guy you could go sign or something but there aren't if you're if you don't have bradford and you don't get chase daniel then you have less than chip kelly had last last season and that's a problem that's why i'm not necessarily on board
Starting point is 00:11:25 with killing the eagles for this and it is market value for a quarterback these days so the money is crazy but i get i guess i understand it uh but yeah i'm i guess i wasn't quite as plugged in on the chase daniel's going to be a stud i know that's kind of the move west that i don't think he's going to be a stud i think he's going to be a stud i think he's going to be Sam Bradford, since he entered the league, among quarterbacks with 60 starts is last in almost every major category. To me, why pay for that? I get that. I mean, what's the worst? Oh, no, we don't get Sam Bradford. We're in trouble. We're already in trouble with Sam Bradford. I think the disconnect, though, is that there are people, like football people that, and that's
Starting point is 00:12:01 the only explanation in a lot of ways, I think, that he's made so much money in his career, they see something special there, even if it's been years and years that the common fan or analyst maybe doesn't see so that's why they decided to stay in business with them and they put a lot of stock as we know into the last half of last season as well but they didn't have a ton of options unless you were going to go after chase daniel uh kirk cousins wasn't going to be out there you're going to draft somebody i don't think you want to do that at this stage i mean they they were kind of in a tough spot they really talked up his last seven games of the season that that's the reason why he's going to stay with the eagles organization but when you look at those seven games it was really a couple
Starting point is 00:12:38 solid performances. It was a couple games where he's loading up the stat sheet in garbage time. It was a couple games where he really struggled. And so that's basically been Bradford's career. He's an accurate pastor. I think people remember back to their draft evaluations, and they just have a hard time letting that go, people thinking that he's one of the most accurate quarterbacks to come out in a long time. When really you watch him as a pro, and he's just that sort of middle of the road. And he has a different offense to his defense every season. And he has another one next season. So why is it going to work? Well, I think we've seen over the last few years, people kill franchise quarterback deals. When Romo got paid a ton, people criticized that,
Starting point is 00:13:17 people criticized Joe Flacco. And we say all the time, you can't pay too much for a franchise quarterback. If you identify him as the answer, pay what it takes to keep him, nobody's identified Sam Bradford as the answer. Well, think about, and I know we need to move on, think about that the difference between a Sam Bradford cost right now is about $18 million. Think of the difference between that and the top quarterbacks. You know, Aaron Rogers at 21, 22. Joe Flacco, we'll talk about a second. There's no middle class for quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:13:44 That is a very small difference considering that there's such a little difference between the very best quarterbacks making 21, but oh, the San Bradfords get 18. Once upon a time, a few years ago, Mario Williams became the highest paid player in the league. Am I right, or is a defender? Defensive player in the league when he signed that massive deal with the Buffalo Bills after a, you know, a real spirited free agency chase. It didn't quite work out. Williams had some nice years with Buffalo,
Starting point is 00:14:12 but Rex Ryan came to town, and Mario Williams was not comfortable in Ryan's defense openly questioned his role in that defense during the 2015 season. The writing was on the wall with a lot of money coming Williams' way. He was announced on Tuesday that he has been released by the Buffalo Bills. And I guess maybe we can tackle this a little bit of different way. we want to save where he kind of fits in in this free agency picture for when we get to the top 99 chatter. But our thoughts about Mario Williams is he the type of impact player that any team with Cap room is going to want to kick the tires on?
Starting point is 00:14:48 Is he that type of player? Is he overrated? This is a big debate, Greg, and I had yesterday because you could make an argument for either of those. If you get the 2014 Mario Williams, he was an all pro and arguably the best season of his career, he's only one year removed from that. But also last year, there were games he didn't try. His effort was questioned. And Greg believes that he's the kind of guy who doesn't really love football. So you have to question his effort this year if you sign him.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Well, I think at his age, you have to be concerned that he's 31 years old. He's made a ton of money. This is his third contract for guys to really succeed into that next stage of your career. You have to be a special, really special talent and have a special desire. I don't know. you haven't heard that about Mario Williams. Now, I would have never guessed Julius Peppers would have the mid-30s career that he's had when he was going to a third contract.
Starting point is 00:15:41 But he was always a guy who was known to really be a great practice player, really love the game, take it seriously. And you haven't heard that about Mario Williams for his career. So I just wonder, it feels like he's going to get good money, though. I don't doubt that. Oh, I think he'll definitely, there are going to be enough teams that say he can rush the pass shirt. We need that. We've got to bring someone in.
Starting point is 00:15:58 But he was paid by Buffalo for the entire defense. to center and anchor around him. That's not who he is now, I would assume, in the eyes of most defensive coordiners. We're going to bring him in and pay him the kind of money to put everything around him. And I don't think he was a bad siding by Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I think they got their money's worth, essentially. They did. They just never went anywhere as a team. They keep making this thing where, oh, Rex Ryan had him dropping back in the coverage. He was not an outside linebacker. He was rushing the passer most of the time. I mean, he would do it maybe a handful of times a game
Starting point is 00:16:30 that doesn't explain why he doesn't get press. on the quarterback the rest of the game. Did he ever get that engagement ring back? Did we ever figure that out? Well, that was an odd chapter in his NFL life, yes. Also has red eyes. What's up with that? Well, I think that's a contact contact.
Starting point is 00:16:45 That's like going to plug in with a player like that. All right. Moving on. Yesterday, Tuesday was the deadline at 4 p.m. Eastern for teams to use their franchise tag or their transition tag. So we'll go through some of these. We'll start with some will touch on real quickly. But this one I think is worth thinking in on Kirk Cousins, who Rappsheet had reported while we were at the Combine.
Starting point is 00:17:09 The team was seriously considering using the transition tag, which would have been pretty saucy to see how that would have played out if other teams really had a real shot at signing him away. Instead, they used the non-exclusive franchise tag on Cousins at all, but ensures he'll be back in Washington at least through 2016. the franchise tag acts as a one year, $19.95 million deal. Yes, that's almost $20 million. And we were just talking about this, guys, it's weird. We're in this weird phase and salaries in the NFL where there's no middle ground for quarterbacks. But I know Kirk Cousin had a nice year last year, very nice year. Nice two months.
Starting point is 00:17:48 But $20 million for one year for Kirk Cousins. That's wild. To be a quarterback is to be blessed. It's wild. He's going to have the highest. salary of any quarterback in the NFL for the 2016 season, which is so wild when you consider that people were talking about benching him in late October. And then he went, Jordan Reed and Deshaun Jackson got healthy, and he went on a two-month-long
Starting point is 00:18:13 torch stretch, and now he's set up for life. And yet, I think it's a better deal than any two-year deal would have been. I have no problem. I really, and I'm, you know, the biggest anti, or the biggest Kirk Cousins doubter in this room, and I don't really have a problem with this at all. like it better than giving him a big, fat, long-term deal. Even if, I said this, we did a hit for NFL now. Even if he only plays this year in Washington, and it's not a good year, and they wind up
Starting point is 00:18:39 letting him go, I can't kill them for that, because you have to find out, and that way you avoided giving them $50 million guaranteed. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I guess with the money, with a cap shooting up the way it did, I don't really think the money is a sticking point to me. And if you're Jay Gruden and you're coming off a season like you just had, and you're other option is Cousins goes somewhere else. You've got no quarterback.
Starting point is 00:19:02 The Redskins go four and 12 and you're fired. I mean, this is the best chance at continuity, and you're the one who's been with Kirk Cousins and promoted him from the start. I think you stick with him. Whatever it took, this is what it took. And it's Washington's best chance to succeed and sign them long term if they like him. It was interesting. You read, Dan, how the Jets were watching the Kirk Cousins.
Starting point is 00:19:22 They were monitoring. And Ian alluded to on Total Access yesterday, NFL Media Insider, Ian Rappell. rap sheet that the old eagles were keeping an eye on the cousin situation and when that when that hammer dropped and they also saw the money cousins getting of course 20 million that is what spurred on the end of the sam bradford said hammer domino might have been better domino is better but i'm hearing a lot of that these days the first domino has dropped you're turning on domino in denver broncos free agency what's next brock osweiler is peyton going to really ride into the sunset Is that?
Starting point is 00:19:57 You know, it's not a new phrase. Domino's, you know, falling. That's great week for some time. Great week for the Cousins family. They've made, you know, he made $2.5 million his first four years. You know, it's a big time race to get $20 million. But there was one big loser. The guy who wrote the Kirk Cousins' autobiography a year or two ago.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Yeah, should have waited a year or two. People, that came and went. You guys didn't even know what existed. There is a Kirk Cousins' autobiography out there. That thing comes out this offseason? Hold on. A lot better. Five-year-olds quit writing biographies.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I feel worse for the guy that wrote the RG3 by the rookie season. That thing was possibly earned the copies. That thing was dead before it hit the printer because he tore his ACL and it was over. I've been trying to get Dan to read that book. He has been very. After I read the Rex Ryan autobiography after his second or the Jets, I took a step back. You've only been pulling your weight as a human being for two years of your life. I don't want to read about you.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Mark should be on his third autobiography. I would love to read a Sessler memoir, you know what I'm saying? This is what, Mark, and I hope. It's not coming any time. You posted it publicly, but you were a subject of fascination in the newsroom yesterday morning because you were off and you needed that off day. And as we talked about, you know, you didn't get to have any beers and indie at the combine to. You were a man that just needed to kind of blow off some steam. 7 a.m. on a Tuesday morning, you are sitting by the sea taking photos.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I said this to you downstairs this morning. You could ask me that question. Who would be doing that at 7 a.m.? There is not one other person I've ever met my life that I would guess. I would say immediately that would be Mark Sessler that was sitting by the sea. Well, I think West could be potentially. Wes could stumble at his front door. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yeah, I really live like a football. West would have to be coming home from the night before for that to happen. I mean, you know, it's not a sexy story. We had a sitter coming to take our kids to school. And I was basically told I need to leave the house. before 7 a.m. So I was like, I'll just drive out there and took a photo, and then it was
Starting point is 00:22:01 foggy, so I left. You should have come by. You said you were in Santa Monica, right? Come by work? No, come by my house. You know, see what's going on. I remember being at your house, but I don't remember where you... It's weird that you wouldn't drop by your mentor's home. That is true. I mean, you know, the day got off to an odd start
Starting point is 00:22:16 when I didn't stop by Greg's right off the bat. In other franchise tag news, Bond Miller got the franchise tag, And Mark, do you know why he was unique to the rest of the franchise tag field? Because he just won the Super Bowl. Okay. Well, yes, that would be unique to this class. But he got the exclusive franchise tag, which nobody else can negotiate.
Starting point is 00:22:39 He's going to be a Bronco and they'll get a deal done. Cordy Glenn, the bill's left tackle. He got you get a franchise tag and you get a franchise tag. He got a franchise. Has anyone commented on that story yet? Oprah bit. Oh, yeah. We looked yesterday there wasn't a single comment on that.
Starting point is 00:22:53 People not plugged in on offensive tackles in Western New York. Olivier Vernon, this one's saucy, Greg. Got the transition tag in Miami last year, if you remember, Charles Clay, the H-back. The Dolphins did the same thing. And then Rex Ryan got over-excited and the bills signed him to a big contract that the dolphins opted not to match. Will the same thing happen with Vernon? And will that be a big blunder, Greg, by the Dolphins if they let Vernon get out the door?
Starting point is 00:23:23 It's a strange move. I don't think they give them that tag unless they're almost ready to say goodbye to him. But it's just, it's become their move now. He's number two on our top 99 available players. He's not technically a free agent. It's like being a restrictive free agent. But not really because you don't have to give up anything to get him. You just sign them to the contract.
Starting point is 00:23:44 You don't have to give the Dolphins a draft pick or anything like it would be with a restricted free agent. So all it does is tells Dolphins fans that the front office, it gives them a feeling like they don't know what they're doing. Why did you do this? Now we just have to watch the 49ers or someone, give him $50 million guaranteed, front load it, not match it, and just draw out this process.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And it feels like they don't know what they're doing. So he's gone? I think he's gone. Well, and it gives agents a chance, like when Alex Mack was transitioned, to go sign a contract with the Jaguars that suddenly included an opt-out clause and a no-trade clause.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Like the agent co-in and basically screw the original team who then if they want to match, they don't have power over that player. That's what the bills did. They front-loaded every. everything in the clay contract with a lot of guarantees. They knew the dolphins are tight to the cap and the dolphins are tight to the cap again. It's not screwing the original team when the original team is the one that messed up and put it.
Starting point is 00:24:34 You're right. The original team walked into it, but it does give a chance for that. It's a half measure. It's like having Ryan Tannahill as your quarterback. It's a half measure. Ouch. Greg had to go. I mean, I'm just saying the listeners down in San Antonio, either find a way to give him the franchise tag and cut Cameron Ways.
Starting point is 00:24:53 and Brent Grimes or whatever you need to do or not. I stepped on Lauren Tannahill's purse. I'm in a better position with that family than you were. What's that? Last man off the Ryan Tannahill boat. That's it. Welcome back to the society. Yes, Mark, I remember you stepping on Lauren's purse.
Starting point is 00:25:09 She was quite classy about it, but furious. Well, there was a loud, distinct crackle inside. I stepped on something that smashed into many points. Well, maybe it was a gun. Remember they left that gun? I don't think it was a gun car one time. That was stupid. Josh Norman and Mo Wilkerson,
Starting point is 00:25:24 the Panthers and Jets, respectively, also got the tag. And speaking of the transition tag, here's somebody that knows a little bit about that business, Alex Mack. Transition, guys. That's what it's like in this business. Wow.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Podcasting. What a pro. Alex Mack has avoided his Browns deal that had three years and 24 million left on it, including $8 million guaranteed. He is going to test the free agency market, but guess what, Mark? Don't lose hope because he likes it.
Starting point is 00:25:51 likes hugh he likes sashi sashi actually let's get the full sashi i'm in the mood well ladies and gentlemen for one night only sashi and he is open to staying in cleveland so it's just a matter if they want to be competitive at least that's what he's saying do you think alex mac will be the center for the browns week one 2016 i don't think so but i definitely didn't think so a couple months ago, and I do think that it sounds like what we heard at the combine, that there is, they are talking, there is a chance. It's no surprise at all that he avoided his contract. I would have been stunned if he didn't. But now he's going to find out, you know, Cleveland's back in a situation again where they can fight against another team. And if you're
Starting point is 00:26:36 the Browns, you have to be considered fighting an uphill battle. Mack has been through, what, 26 quarterbacks at this point? When you're the person having to work directly with the quarterback, He's been through seven different offenses. I mean, the idea of a team that is consistency and is a winner, and he said winning is important to him that he could be lured away. 33 and 79 since he was a first round pick in 2009. They also, Mitchell Schwartz, they lose potentially as well in free agency, and the one thing that they touted as a strength,
Starting point is 00:27:04 which it wasn't last year, suddenly is not at all, and they have a lot of needs. Elsewhere in the AFC North, Joe Flacco, and the Baltimore Raven strike a contract extension. Not a surprise. He had a Drew Breazian-type. cap hit coming uh coming uh baltimore's way this season so they decided to essentially give him a new deal rip up that contract and it was a three year extension worth 66.4 million signing bonus of 40
Starting point is 00:27:29 million which this is the other thing got on everybody's radar people lumping in joe flaco and sam bradford in the same tweet to talk about how quarterbacks are overpaid you know let's calm down come back to us joe flaco is a good quarterback maybe not the greatest he's got a ring and an epic postseason run. If I have Joe Flacko, I'm keeping him until he's 38 years old, and I got no problem how much I pay him. Carried the Ravens to a Super Bowl title. One of the great performances, him in the last 10 years, and you talk about postseason quarterback runs, Eli, that 2012 season, Flacko, 2012, Eli was 2011. Brady had an amazing run last year. I mean, you pay for those guys. You keep them in your building. Flacco was playing great at the end of last.
Starting point is 00:28:14 season, and who knows, they might have ended up with a second Super Bowl title if they hadn't lost that 14-point lead. It certainly wasn't Joe Flacco's fault that they lost to the Patriots a couple years ago. It is strange, though, as good as Joe Flack. And I like Joe Flack a lot. It is strange that he makes the most average salary of any quarterback in the NFL. It's a little strange. He now tops Aaron Rogers. Joe Flacco is number one, and his agent and Joe Flacco have done a great job, and they timed it, I mean, they just timed it perfectly signing that initial deal, getting the Super Bowl run right before, and that's kind of set up the rest of his life. It's so funny to remember the outrage, the evening that that Flacco deal,
Starting point is 00:28:53 I will never forget, just the Twitter outrage that Joe Flacco would be paid what he was at quarterback. And then over the course of, from then until now, one quarterback after the next is making bank. I don't have a problem. How much would you love to have Joe Flacco the last seven years and seven more? record and what he did with some pretty average Ravens teams. It's not just him. It's the rest of the way that franchise is built, but no problem playing Joe Flacco a ton of cash.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Give me Joe Flacco. I thought he did a good job last year with some lackluster, really lackluster people around him for a while. Then it all fell apart and he got injured. You know they're going to win 10 or 11 years. He is a 31-year-old coming off a tour in ACL that's now the highest paid player in the highest-paid quarterback in the league and has never really been a top-five quarterback so if you wanted to you know just note that i think that's fair to note simone and i saw
Starting point is 00:29:42 him at the super bowl walking down uh the avenue and he looked fine yeah that's breaking news for mark sessler at mark sessler underscore nflb was at our hotel i saw i saw him walking around you look good and finally the new orleans saints new owling saints excuse me have cut ties with west we are losing west yes the cough i feel like this is the end of philadelphia too right now wow wow did they make a philadelphia too no no they're not going to green light philadelphia too it's called philadelphia two colon still terminally ill actually i think i think i think we're going to get we're definitely got to get some movie posters based on that it's just west hacking it does mike um anyway marquis colston
Starting point is 00:30:36 and was a wide receiver. Marqueuees Colstone. Marquis, Colstone. Yes, that's how, well, there's a different pronunciation. Greg, you always get on. Well, downstairs, we were talking about this story, and I told Dan, I informed him, you have been saying Marcus Colston's name incorrectly
Starting point is 00:30:55 for the last three years. It's not Marquis. You tell me if I'm wrong. He's not a French dignitary or anything. It's not the Marquis or a writer. It's not the Marquite aside. He plays outside the French quarter. Marcus Colston is how you say the name.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Sidney, you are a wise woman from Utah. I'm going to spell you his first name. You tell me how you would pronounce it. And be honest, M-A-R-Q-U-E-S. I would say Marquise, I think. There you go. Yeah, I mean, it's certainly breaking news. Yeah, breaking news, English language has silent letters, all sorts of crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Well, if you're going to spell it that way, though, you're inviting. confusion. Well, can we just talk about, like... Dan's the only person I've heard call him Marquise over the last five years. Dan is taking a lot, take it to its logical end, though. I also think many people... Just because after a while you hear his name said a certain way.
Starting point is 00:31:48 You could, you know, listen. Well, Greg is now banging Dan for not watching tape. Let's listen to this. I was just going to say, like... Lady Sidney is some of the name? Like, there are no rules. We have abandoned all sorts of rules for how to name and spell children's names.
Starting point is 00:32:01 How about Brett Barth? Indecee. Why did you fall out that window? How does Brett Farve get away we're calling himself Brett Farr. That's a fair point. Wait, let's listen to the official pronunciation. Yeah, this will settle everything. Marquis Colstone.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Okay. Marquis's Colstone. Case closed. Anyway, he gone, and that's what's happening in the news. If you having free agency. Problems, I feel bad for you, son. I've got 99 problems, but free agency. I mean, I could just.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I could walk out of the studio right now and say that was a great show. Such a smug look you've got right now. Why? It's great. I approve of it. I mean, you earned it. He's just happy he used the all-time leader
Starting point is 00:32:50 in receiving yards in Saints history as a way to do a little bit on mispronouncing his name. By the way, thanks to Sacramento, California. He's a free agent. Legal makers. We're losing Sydney because, oh, it's not a good idea for a company to be able to keep like a skyrocketing employee for more than seven months.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Got to get them out in the street, got a risk, never get in the back. Good job, California. The top 99 available players, you could get this at NFL.com slash top 99. And I'm seeing a lot of guys on Twitter popping off, running their mouth. They got, you know, putting, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:28 their own lists off their lips to borrow some parlance from our friend Jason Lockhart, who, by the way, Laka, come. back to us, baby. A late night Combine tweet thrown shade at Rapsheet. Can we read that tweet? Can you just bring that up real quick, Greg? Because this was one of
Starting point is 00:33:46 my favorite things of Combine Week. Kind of got off my radar and missed it. And then I plugged in on it on Tuesday. This is an NFL insider to another NFL insider. Jason Lock in for a keep at Rapsheet. Keep my name off your lips. Always. Remember
Starting point is 00:34:02 this. I know you will. Sent it 140 in the morning. morning. That's two in the morning posturing. Put my name in the mouth. You got to be careful. There you go. Well, you and Lachos sharing some DNA.
Starting point is 00:34:16 I did think that when I heard that. Maybe I did think it was an ode. Maybe he listened to the podcast. That was no much. I've never heard that. I'm glad. You want to run with? Hey, I had a message to send that day.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I stand by it. Didn't get through, partner. The top 99 available players. So anyway. You know, team rap sheet. You know, calm down. Come back to us, Lockoff. Twitter gangster.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Top 99 available players. This is a list that has been done. A lot of care and effort has went into this list. You guys, the scientists we call Chris Wesleying and Greg Rosenthal, not just because they founded Rhodo World and not only built that site HTML, HML brick by brick, but also physically the building that houses all the Roto World writers. They built that as well. Most of the Roto World writers appear to live within like 10 miles of Evan Silva.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Wes, I'm building your legends. Make it seem like you guys all worked in an office building and cubicles all around. Like the Brill building. Yeah. But you were actually in Tybee Island during your time at Roto World. That's true. I don't know how I got all that building done. Working on a dock.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Working on a dock. I don't drink Corona. All right. Let's get into this list. And I think, you know, we talked a little bit how do we want to tackle this? because there are, yeah, 99 names. Right off the top, I want to start with who made number 99, which always gets me excited.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And number 99, I thought, oh, a little disappointed. I thought it was going in a different direction. Is this the most up-to-date version? Yes. Okay, number 99 on this list, because I thought it was going to be a certain former Washington. Well, he's not a free agent. Oh, good call.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Thank you very much. I apologize. Chris Johnson, your number 99. You guys like to have a saucy guy at 99, even if he should be higher or maybe not on the list. You always like that. It's the only time science kind of takes a back seat to a little bit of pop and posturing. Well, I like the idea that the last guy in the list should be a memorable name.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Exactly. You want to wow them in the end. You know, you want to have a big finish to the show like we do every day. And so Chris Johnson's a guy who is seemingly out of the league. And then when he played last year, he's a good player. Number one on the list, it does not as enticing a name as number 99. But that's not your fault. Well, think about the top five quickly before we get.
Starting point is 00:36:32 to ones we disagree. I mean, these aren't big names. Malik Jackson's number one. Everyone was talking at the combine. You've got to find your Malik Jackson, the guy who can work inside and out so you can put any type of front you want. That's a guy that's 75% of football fans had no idea existed.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Exactly. And I think he's going to get $14, $15 million a year. He's going to get Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick money. Then you have Olivier Vernon who is top five in the league and tackles for loss and quarterback hits, but not a big name. Kaleche Osce Ossmoli, which Dan famously has never been able to pronounce. How do you say it? Marquise.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Doug Martin, people know Doug Martin, and Bruce Ervin. That's the top five. So not. Bruce Irvin, a nice little player. Yeah, well, it's hard. Great players don't get the free. Number five. He's going to get $10 million a year.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I like Bruce Irvin. I think he's an above average starter in the middle of his career. What if he's put on a bad defense? There's not that many. You don't know Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril around you. Here, April. April. Listen, everyone, everyone's allowed to pronounce.
Starting point is 00:37:32 counts a name off target. That is here. The top 10, five is Irvin. Six is JPP, and I'm sure we're going to bring that up in a second. Mario Williams, who we discussed earlier, seven, Eric Weddle, the Chargers Safety's eight, Danny Trevathan, Broncos linebacker, nine, and Janaris Jenkins, and Ram's cornerback, 10, not happy, of course, that Trumane Jackson got the tag. But he's probably going to be happy when things are all set and done, because people
Starting point is 00:37:55 got money to spend, and a cornerback that is entering his prime is going to get paid. He'll be okay in the end. He reportedly turned down a five-year, $45 million contract, and then he fired his agent. That's always a red flag. You know, they have red flags going into the draft. It's always a red flag when you fire your agent three days before for agency. It's always like the players that are a little that fly off the handle. Are you saying?
Starting point is 00:38:20 Well, Janoris Jenkins, based on his Twitter feed, is definitely a guy you've got to manage closely. But you're calling that move to fire the agent after that offer a. Sounds like what you're saying? No, I'm not blaming the agent. I'm saying when players are firing agents three days before free agency started or a few days before, it just seems like a weird, unstable person type of move. Okay, so let's break this down. And I guess we'll start here.
Starting point is 00:38:49 You guys, Wes and Greg, when you make this list, you basically talk out each player. And this is what I pick up. And Mark, let me know if you... Oh, am I involved in this segment? I mean, we are outsiders. Don't worry about it. hear you guys got to pick it apart mark you have like you know how you have fantasy corner during uh yeah draft segment yeah august it'll be something similar it'll be like cess's uh street
Starting point is 00:39:12 corner or maybe like cess's beach bench beach bench sit and watch the sea uh you throw it over the beach bench when you need to okay cool anyway uh so you guys disagree on certain names and you you guys talk it out and you try to slot someone in and every once in while you guys are in totally different places on a player so let's talk about some of those players and uh great going which name jumped out immediately when I just said that as some of you guys were not on the same page on. Jason Pierre Paul was the number one guy. I see a guy who was by far the best player in the Giants Front seven last year when he came back was an impact player. And if you put him on the free agent market two years ago, he'd be signing a five-year, $100 million contract. And there's that sort of ceiling for JPP now. And I think you'd get them at a relatively bargain type of rate, maybe a
Starting point is 00:40:02 two-year deal, $20 million, and there's a chance you get a top-10 defensive player in the entire league. So I had him on our initial list, even before all the tags. I had him as the number five player. West did not have him in the top 25. No, I didn't. And I don't think that you can say that the ceiling for a seven-and-a-half-finger player is the same ceiling as a man when he had 10 fingers.
Starting point is 00:40:26 We saw him fail to wrap up guys multiple times. He wasn't the lab, guys. He wasn't the best player on the front seven. Robert Ayers was. No. And Jason Pierre-Paul had one sack in eight games because tackling is one of the most basic elements in football. If you can't do it, you're not as valuable. And I don't think Jason Pierre-Paul gets too much credit for just running into the backfield and failing to make play.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I mean, if we're seeing that, aren't GMs and scouts seeing the same? But why do you assume that the guy coming off of a devastating injury playing football in a different way for the first time in his entire life? is just going to be that guy for the rest of his career. Why can't you get better at playing with the club? That's fair, but you're asking someone to go put a lot of money on the assumption that he is. Well, I think it's a, I think it's a buy medium with a big time reward. I don't think it's going to be a big. But this isn't a guy coming back from an ACL tear, and it takes him a year to get right.
Starting point is 00:41:19 This is a guy that, and Wes put it quite literally, has seven and a half fingers now, and he's not going to grow more fingers. Also, you don't buy media. You don't buy a robot hand, which would be awesome. You don't buy medium on the number six player on this list. Well, depend, this isn't a ranking of who's going to get the most money. I think he'll have an okay deal. You said, you know, he might not grow back the fingers.
Starting point is 00:41:40 No, he will not. The scientists, we, you know, we didn't want to reveal this. It's a different type of science. We've been working on that. Oh, well, that is on stats absurd. It's possible. He was a really good player last year. Everyone is under rating him because of the one game.
Starting point is 00:41:53 If Wes had any confidence in your ability as a duo to grow back fingers, he wouldn't have put him outside of his 25. Well, that's true. If you talk about how. your hand functions when you're trying to grab a quarterback you're diving after him and you slip off of his rump or his back or his pads because you can't physically grab that player your hand doesn't work i think it was a good player when he came back and he's only going to get better and people are under rating him because of that one game that was on sunday night football where he missed a bunch of
Starting point is 00:42:22 tackles and chris collinsworth pointed out that's all anyone can remember he had a lot of good only game where there was an issue. He had a lot of good moments. They played the Panthers on a Sunday afternoon and he had major issues, tackling Cam Newton. I'd take a chance. All right. How about another player, West, that you jumps to mind
Starting point is 00:42:37 that you guys definitely were not on the same page on? Well, let me look at this link here. Let's throw out. I think Duane Allen, whom I have a lot of faith in, I'll always be an unapologetic Duane Allen supporter. We heard Steve Kime at the Combine had one of the most fascinating discussions on tight ends that basically it's two different positions now
Starting point is 00:42:59 there's no such thing as a tight end because you're either an F or a Y and one of those just blocks the other one just receives Dwayne Allen is one of about a handful of tight ends that can do both when he's healthy health is the big question for him he wound up and this is our version
Starting point is 00:43:15 two that went up after all the franchise he wound up at number 46 you had him much much higher I see your point on this one I think if you're taking a chance with a young, tight end in this market? I'd go with Laderius Green out of those two. Again, Laderius Green is great, but he's basically just a big wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:43:33 He can't fulfill every function like Dwayne Allen. Don't you think the offensive coaches and Andrew Luck would have found a way to get Dwayne Allen going in the last couple of years? At some point, I have no faith in the Colts offensive coaches. Wes, sometimes when you're making this list with Greg, do you ever wonder yourself, was Greg even watching the same games as me? allie only during the jason pierre paul discussion now give me a break
Starting point is 00:43:59 first of all dwayne allen let's uh let's go over his production mark is gregg ever privately confessed to you some issues that he has with west in terms of talent evaluation well it's private uh dwayne allen missed the entire 2013 season he's often injured and he has gained a total of 500 yards the last two years this evaluation isn't based on stats my evaluation of dwayne out It's purely based on game film, Greg. No, I don't argue with that.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I do, too. I put him like 60th or 70th, which to me, to me, I think, is pretty high. You know, compared to other people. For instance, I put him 50 spots ahead of guys that were much more productive at tight-end, like Zach Miller or Ben Watson or players like that. Give me another one, Greg. How about Mario Williams, which we mentioned a little bit? But, you know, West really thinks Mario Williams would be a good buy.
Starting point is 00:44:51 he wound up when you averaged out his two numbers he ended up being number seven on our list but I think it's a it could be a big waste of money well I just here's how I decide where to put Mario Williams find Jason Pierre Paul and put him above him wow that's a pretty easy decision that's what happens that's what happens sometimes in these direct hit that you're looking at the rankings that is not a direct hit I'd much let's let's put a sandwich on a right now we don't need to wait for the free agency show who has a better season jason pierre paul or mario williams and we're going to have a committee of three mark sessler dan hansis and uh david ely behind the desk will be the third person okay wait no actually ely is a bad choice why would
Starting point is 00:45:40 you go with ely over like connor or patrick okay Connor Connor and patrick it'll be a four person it'll be a wait but what will be deadlock committee then we'll will okay we'll workshop this yeah uh who has a better season You can make Ely the 5th. I feel bad now because I listen to this. Why don't you guys just simplified? I know, because you're basically asking us to PFF the situation. Who has more sacks?
Starting point is 00:46:01 No, I want you guys. Because he knows that Jason Pio kid's sack quarterback. I want you guys to have it about. Jason Peter Paul is a great run defender. Better season based on our committee's findings. Okay. It's the new Warren Commission. Here's a name that I think you would find interesting, Dan.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Yes. I ranked Ryan Fitzpatrick much higher. I had him as my 20 desperately trying to get Dan back on the side. That's right. 25th initially, and that's moved up with all the tags. Wes had him in the mid-40s. Barely had him as a top 50 players. Let me say this, because I kind of think I know where Wes is coming from on this one.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I think, first of all, he had a great season with the exception of a bad quarter at the end of the season, which wasn't great. But he has much more value to the Jets playing in that offense than he does to any of the 31 other. teams. And I would think that's probably where Wes is at on this. Yeah, you can't sign Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker along with Ryan Fitzpatrick. I get that. And that's why Ryan Fitzpatrick had a great season. He's throwing to one of the best wide receiver duos in the
Starting point is 00:47:02 NFL. And probably the best Red Zone duo. And he was smarter. He improved as a quarterback. Here's the thing. You get a quarterback bump, though. I mean, if Kirk Cousins gets $20 million, that's fine. Then Ryan Fitzpatrick gets a bump. And he's right now he's 23rd in the list. He's between Reggie Nelson and
Starting point is 00:47:18 Georgia Loka. So he's got a big Bengals safety sandwich. What did Brian Fitzpatrick cost the Jets last year? Three and a half million dollars. That's when you want to get them. Here's what I'm saying. Kirk Cousins had a great season for the Redskins. Maybe the Redskins took him off the market,
Starting point is 00:47:34 but you could have pried him away for a lot cheaper. Chase Daniel, to me, is a very similar quarterback to Ryan Fitzpatrick. Why pay one of them $15 million a year and the other one, four million a year? But isn't like this list, if you could go and find out where every one of them are going land and then re-rank it by player and fit. That's a totally different list. Maybe that's your column this year.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Maybe it will be because what happens is last year and the year before the number one guy, some team, some desperate team goes out and overpays for someone, and then they vanish to some degree some of these players because I would much rather take Matt Forte on the Patriots than Eric Weddle on some terrible football defense. Well, you're right. Number one on this list, and I did one, I went back and looked before Wes arrived. dark days of the NFL back then. But the number one player is not always worked out.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Peyton Manning, that worked out fine. Mike Wallace, not so good. No, Jaris Bird. Who? Injury issues. Jairoos. Irishman. Irishman, you see how quick city is on that iPad?
Starting point is 00:48:37 That's what we need from you. Now, he's doubting her skills. Wow. Indomac and Sue was the guy last year, so we'll see it. That was a no-brainer. I was surprised you had Chris Long in the top 20. By your logic with JPP, you had Chris Long, you had Chris Long has 10 fingers.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Can I head over to the beach bench with Mark Sessler? Please. To ask you a question, Mark, who do you believe will be the most overpaid player in the top 99? Overpaid. That is a wild question. Didn't we just have this exercise in written form? I mean, I think it's potentially it's potentially JPP because I fall,
Starting point is 00:49:18 very much in line with Chris where I don't want to invest in a player that potentially can't tackle you know who maybe Malik Jackson who was your answer when we wrote it you don't remember just like your was that overpaid NFL picks oh for that just for that situation come back to us I'd have to look I don't know got out you've got oh I had a paper over here I had Bruce Irvin all right tell us about Bruce Irvin everybody just just wipe out everything happened the last 90 seconds Bart was like, oh, this is cool. I can just relax the next 20, 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:49:51 No one's going to call on me. Put him on the spot. Was this, I don't even know if this was overpaid, but I think that Bruce Irvin... Things are hazy on the beach bench. Yes, it will. Yeah, it is paid too much. I think Bruce Irvin is the kind of guy that, like,
Starting point is 00:50:01 a lot of players coming out of that Seattle defense. What did you hit before you went out to the beach bench? What do you mean? I don't know. 6.45 in the morning, Greg. Why would Bruce Irvin be overpaid? Because I think he's, A, pass rushers and cornerbacks tend to get overpaid and free agency.
Starting point is 00:50:18 and then they leave the Super Bowl level defense they're on. They go to a bad defense where you don't have the supporting cast around Bruce Irvin that's helped make him what he is, and he's a good player, but he's going to get overpaid, no doubt my mind. He'll go to the Falcons and be part of a bad defense. Let me throw out a name here because if you really want to get spooked if you're a team that really needs to rebuild your offense in a hurry, take a look at the wide receiver class because you have Marvin Jones,
Starting point is 00:50:44 who I like as a receiver. I think he could kind of take the next step in the right position, kind of like a Golden Tate next step guy. I like him a lot. Muhammad Sanoo, though, his Jones's teammate at Cincinnati is number two on your guys' list of wide receivers, number 61 overall. And you put him in the nice subhead category, which I agree with, needs the right role. If he goes to a team and he gets paid number two receiver type money,
Starting point is 00:51:10 he's fourth on our list of wide receiver. Oh, he's fourth. Enquant Bowden and Travis Benjamin are ahead of him. Okay, he's number four. And if you give him number two wide receiver type money, I mean, if you watch this guy or track his career at all, he can disappear for stretches, doesn't always catch the ball. Classic, and I think Connor Orr wrote a piece during Combine Week,
Starting point is 00:51:28 how maybe it's not a great thing to have a ton of money in free agency because you might overpay for a guy that will be put in a bad role. Right. Most of these guys that make it are solid starters. They're not superstars or else their team would keep them. our NFL media insider, Ian Rapporte, sent us an email while we've been up here, just kind of thinking about- Keep his name off your lips, bro.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Thinking about guys who he thinks are going to do very well in free agency, that might not be getting a lot of attention. And there are a lot of our favorite players, Chris, on our list. We did agree for the most part on most guys. William Hayes from the Rams, who's been one of the best rotational ends for a while. Patrick Robinson, who's had a couple good years at quarterback, Danny Trevathan. Jay Howard, who made our list. I love to watching Jay Howard.
Starting point is 00:52:13 The best bargain picks. Maybe he's not going to be a bargain. Ian thinks he might get eight-figure salary. That's right. Eight figures, which means he would be making $10 million a year, Jay Howard. Wow. That's a little too rich for my blood. Brandon Brooks, Robert Arasotaeris Green, who he likes.
Starting point is 00:52:29 So it's a lot of those kind of middle-tier guys that wind up getting big-time juice. Anybody want to throw out one more overpaid guy, or do we want to move on to the best values, a guy that gets for a nice? Let's move on to that. We'll start with Chris Wessling on the West. Who is someone in this top 99 that you can get on the cheap relatively and could make a big difference in 2016? I wrote about Dwayne Allen, but since we already talked about him,
Starting point is 00:52:55 I will go with the other guy. Derek Shelby from the Dolphins, who... Shelbone. I watched his film because he intrigued me. I remember watching him at the end of the year when he was filling in for Cameron Wake. He's a really strong run defender with really strong hands, and he pushes offensive linemen back into quarterbacks. He was batting a pass per game in December, batting down one pass per game.
Starting point is 00:53:16 He's never going to be quick enough to be like a double-digit sack guy, but he's a do-everything defensive end. I'll give you one. Mitchell Schwartz, right tackle. I think that he, a couple seasons ago, had real issues and was probably the weak spot of that Brown's line. But he's grown a lot. I think that you could probably get him at right tackle for,
Starting point is 00:53:35 he's going to get paid, but you're not going to have to break the bank for him. And he's young. You could center your offense around him, your offensive line around him for a long time. Walter Thurman, too, maybe it's safety. Walter Thurman had a really good year later. Yeah, I'm a little surprised that Eagles aren't going too crazy to keep them, it sounds like, but maybe they just, they've spent a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I mean, if you think about what they've done this offseason. I've been doing this piece. Wes is doing the AFC version. I'm doing NFC team needs heading into free agency. Eagles have a pretty good roster. I don't think that's a bad team to take over. They've re-signed Vinnie Curry. They've re-signed Bradford, of course.
Starting point is 00:54:09 We've got a lot of talent on their defense. Who's your guy? I have a couple of guys. We have a written piece for a lot of this free agent business, free agent bargains. You can find it on, it's in the centerpiece right now, at least as a taping of this podcast on the homepage, little industry insider talk. But I like more than certainly Greg Rosenthal, I like Lamar Miller a lot. I think that if he ends up with a team that takes advantage of his talents, I think he can
Starting point is 00:54:36 really make a big difference. And since running backs don't get paid, I think he'll have value. And I also like Chris Ivory, not with the gym. Jets and not, mostly because they have so many issues. Boy, he'd look great with the Patriots, wouldn't he? I do not like to imagine that. Who? Ivory? Ivory.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Yeah, totally see him. You would give him 160. He basically would replace Ligarra Blunt. Right. And be a much better version of Lergerra. Give Chris Ivory 100. Same thing with Lomar Miller. You don't want to give him too many.
Starting point is 00:55:02 And that's why I'm just going to, I threw it out there on the piece. How about if you need a complete reboot and you don't want to go through the draft? You sign both Chris Iri and Lamar Miller. That's a nice one-two punch. Come on. Get excited people. I mean, Chris, you've won some games in, you know, September to December. Let's start winning some games in January and February.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Come to the Patriots. I like that. Matt Forte would be another one. And because of what you said, running backs are so cheap. Someone's going to pay a third for Matt Forte this season of what a guy like Jay Howard is going to make just for this season. Just for one season, there's no way he is not going to help your team. I think Chase Daniel, who he mentioned, and a guy right next to your guy, Derek Shelby, who I like. Nick Fairley.
Starting point is 00:55:42 I know he's a risk off the field, but I'm telling you, he's a difference maker. He's a good player. You question Mario Williams' work ethic and motor, and then you go out promoting Nick Fairley? Well, it's all relative. You're not going to, I don't think you're going to have to pay him an insane amount of money.
Starting point is 00:55:57 And I think he played pretty well for the Rams last year. I'll throw out another one just because I'm loyal to the Making the Leap clan and the entire roster dating back to 2013, Lidarius Green, who came up earlier today. You could probably get him very, cheap you put him in the right offense a little bit with a good passer and you and you put him in a role where you can spread the field he might be a breakout guy you won't have to pay a lot for him he is so when you talked about watching the tape he was really impressive last year he to me had a breakout season
Starting point is 00:56:28 without the numbers to back it up because he just wasn't a big enough part of that offense and he had to stay into block and he missed a couple games of injuries i thought he was really good for that team i'm going to throw out one more name do it which is just a weird name he would be in the top three if there was no nothing going on with him alden smith remember him do you sign a guy that's could you get think a little left field and sign a guy that's suspended for the for the first half of the season Greg's high character won him that even allowed what was Greg's team signed darrell washington while you're at it go well he's on the cardos still um well was he's negotiating with o j simpson to be a pro player that's true i always like the guys that you take a chance and we didn't
Starting point is 00:57:11 We didn't rank Greg Hardy high at all. He was buried. Another free agent added to the list. Breaking news just came across the wire on Twitter. And I don't know if he makes your top 99. Now he doesn't. Roddy White released by the Falmouth. He will not be in the top 200.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Whoa, that's just mean. I mean, we don't even have a top 200. He almost single-handedly sabotaged the Falcons offensive. Oh, damn, Wes. I know, that's fine. But this is one of my favorite receivers of the last decade. He's had a great career. He has had a great career.
Starting point is 00:57:40 But this is the end. Chris Wessling, colon, Roddy White, the John Wilkes booth of Falcons' offense in 2015. You don't think he'll get a job. I was overstating it. He failed. He couldn't separate for two years straight now. And the Falcons had no speed on their offense after Julio Jones. So that was a problem.
Starting point is 00:57:59 All right. Jacob Tammy's a slow tight end and they had no one of mercy. I never understood. I never understood the articles that were saying they were going to keep Roddy White. So I think that Falcons made the right. And Kwant White was writing those articles. Anquam Bolden can't separate from anyone. and he's like number 40 on your list.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Juan Bolton is one of the most physical wide receivers in NFL history, though. This is the second Roddy White to get the boot from the Falcons in two years. Remember the guy Roddy White who is piping in crowd noise? Well, he deserved it. How could there be two Roddy White? It's totally insane. It's what they need to do a 30 for 30 on that. The two Roddy whites.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Forget the two, what is it? The two Escobars, the two Roddy White. I think you should be respectful, too, of internal promotion. It should be a football life that we do that. Not a 30 for 30. Dan, you were correct. I went overboard and I apologize to Roddy White. He's had a great career.
Starting point is 00:58:47 What did Wilkes Booth say after he assassinated Lincoln? Six, Semper, Tyrannis? Something like that. Other than that, how is the play, Mrs. Lincoln? Stop with that. That wasn't him. He had a copy about Catcher in the Rhinis pocket when he did that. Yes, he did.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Wait, no, he did it. No. That's Lennon's assassin. I know that. See, things are a little weird old. over on the beach bench. You know, I don't know where you're coming from. Do you think that I actually thought that someone in a Lincoln civilization,
Starting point is 00:59:19 Lincoln era America was carrying Catcher of the Rye around in their pocket? That's what I considered fact. Okay. Listen, sorry, Mark. I could see you being a big Salinger guy when you were younger. I was. I love Salinger. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. My friend and I tried to find his house. Couldn't find it. You were not the first. They have a movie about that. I know. Then it became cliche. We tried it earlier.
Starting point is 00:59:40 You tried it before, Field of Dreams? What? Okay. All right, guys. I got where you're going, Wes, but it's... What the hell's going on out here? All right, so let's stick a pin in our free agency talk. It doesn't mean it's over because next time we join you, which will be Monday, we'll continue to talk free agents.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Wes, you're heading off to Tybee Island. It's masked loosely as a charitable endeavor, but it's really a place for you to recover from bronchitis and have a BAC. overpassed duo for five straight things. What's the charity again? What's the name? It's Tybee Teen Cuisine. And if you go to my Twitter page, I have the tweet pinned with all the details if you would like to give to charity. You know, I make one joke. And Greg's like, that's not fair.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Well, I was distracted because of your incorrect information you gave all our listeners. We have a show on Thursday with Lindsay Road. You don't have to wait until Monday to listen to us. We're going to be coming back at you with a big time star, Lindsay Roy. Yes. No, I'm not going to Tybee to recover. I think that would be impossible. I'm worried that you come back in a box.
Starting point is 01:00:45 I've said that. I thought we were maybe going to call Wes on Tybee while you were there, but there was some discussion. You know, we always have to call Wes. Whenever Wes is in Tybee, we've got to get on the horn, call up Huckapoo's. And that's the best place to reach West, which is a little beachside bar on this island off the coast of Georgia.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Correct. You have called Huckapoo's, and I think I've been there almost every time you've called. When you walk in, is it like a norm moment? Everybody's like, well, it is. It's my favorite place. I mean, you have your softball jersey retired there, don't you? It's a big, like, yeah, there's a big, it's not a statue, but it's like a big softball with my name on it on the ceiling.
Starting point is 01:01:24 How many people are in there at 9.38 in the morning? Nobody. I think it's still locked at 9.38. Okay. Is there any resentment among the islanders about you moving to the big city out west? So when you come home and you're getting show, is there any guy in the corner and be like that dirty whistling i'll get him i don't think so these are some of my dearest friends i don't think there's anyone but you never know about the element because
Starting point is 01:01:49 you haven't been there for like i'm too cool for school now like i'm too good for the island i don't think you are but maybe someone on the island you're saying there could be someone in the corner who's like oh wesley moved to l a that quiss wessling did he's all better than us i'll show him there could yeah there could be a villain lurking that you don't suspect oh west is all tofu and spray tans now He's trying to inspire drama now in other places, too. He's like, go after him, Tybee. I know you're listening. That Chris Wessling, hell get his.
Starting point is 01:02:18 If it's the last thing I do. Yes, we'll be back Thursday. The old guy from the amusement park on Scooby-Doo is now hanging out in Tybee. Yeah, so Lindsay steps in for Chris Wessling. That is quite a change in terms of roster. We will also, just because you're a lot different, as people not better or you know it's okay day i'm not offended we will also uh we meant to do it today but ran out of time iTunes comments uh you have to wait the good and the bad uh we'll do
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