NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Trade Deadline Primer, Kevin Byard to Birds

Episode Date: October 23, 2023

In a room full of heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, and Marc Sessler are joined by Mike Garafolo to get you ready for this season's trade deadline. The heroes open the show by talking to Garafolo about the changing landscape of the deadline and how today's General Manager approaches it (02:01). The heroes then get Garafolo's opinion on what teams like the Giants (05:08), Vikings (10:19), Commanders (13:23), and Broncos (16:30) may do before the deadline. Wrapping up the show, the guys talk about players they think could be dealt (23:26) and react LIVE to Kevin Byard being traded to the Eagles.  Note: time codes approximate. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Hello and welcome from the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio to another episode of Around the NFL, but it's a special one. It's the trade deadline special. Dan hands us here with Heroes, Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler. Boys, the deadline is recorded. This is one week away. Pinch yourselves.

I love this time of year. I love a little team building. and I love the fact that the NFL trade deadlines starting to make progress, starting to catch up to the Major League Baseball and the NBA trade deadline with the actual players. Cestog, listen to this. What about the fact that I've been using Cestog more lately?

Is that a nod to money? Is it just the natural evolution of things? Your thoughts? Natural evolution. I accept it. You're comfortable with it? I don't have a lot of control over what happens. Sizzler, Quiet Storm, Mark with a Cee.

I feel like every couple of months, we learn that some athlete has taken quite, Quiet Storm is their nickname to it. Do you, I feel like, oh, they're trying to take your thing. They have no idea to exist. I don't want to give that away. All right. Quiet Storm.

Pling to it. Just as, and we have a special guest just about to join us. But before we bring him in, a quick reminder, like Greg saying, NFL is making strides and making the trade deadline of thing, which always made sense. But now GMs and teams aren't so afraid. Last year, these are some of the key names moved at the deadline. Christian McCaffrey, T.J. Hawkinson, Bradley Chubb, Chase Claypool, Chase Claypool mistake.

Roquan Smith, Calvin Ridley, Robert Quinn, all ahead of the deadline last year. So you would assume we don't want to assume too much, but there will be big moves to come this week as well. So without any other delay, let's welcome in a man who knows this business of news in the NFL. And he's going to help take us through it a little bit, what to be on the lookout for. with the deadline a week away. Here he comes. Mike Garifolo, what's up, body? What's happening, boys?

How are we? We are good. Are you doing deadliney? Yeah, you feel it is to take you back to the old newsroom days in Jersey, I believe it was, where you were up against deadline, and you just needed to plug in a landline into a phone line so you get sent it to your editor in time. I mean, just to bring back those memories. You're like, I got to beat Glover on this story.

yeah that was the competition of the of the of the dial-up days um doesn't quite go back i did i probably dialed up a few times on that gig um listen back then the deadline was like a you know hey we'll check in at 359 and nothing okay good thought so see you guys later um you know now it's sort of a thing the one year i think really spoiled it for for a lot of other years the year we were Jimmy Garoppolo and Dwayne Brown. There's another, it all happened on that last day. Like that year

kind of came out of nowhere. Since then, we've had some action. I don't know that it's quite lived up to that one year, which was 2017, if I'm not mistaken. But we're, we're last year was pretty good, Mike.

I mean, you got CMC on the move, for instance. And I'm, you've been covering the league for a long time. Why do you think we've seen the deadline shift into a more active place. Is it a copycat league like right down to something like this ultimately? A little bit. And I think you've got a new generation of GM, a lot of times a younger generation of GM that's willing to part with picks to make moves.

The traditionalists like to hold onto their picks and their comp picks kind of build their draft through that and get as much draft capital as you possibly can. Some of these young guys are willing to take the shot here. I always thought it was made more sense to use your draft capital now rather than have because if you've got a guy now and you keep him, let's use Saquan Barclay as an example, right? You keep Saquan Barclay. You go through this year. He goes into the offseason.

He signs in the spring of 2024. You're not using that pick that you're going to get for him, that comp pick until April of 2025, whereas, yeah, maybe you're going to get a little less potentially for a guy right now, but at least it's now a part of that capital that you have immediately or if it's player for player or something like that. I've always thought that the weight for the satisfaction, why do that when you can get something a little sooner? I wrote an article, I think it was the Eagles Patriots Super Bowl, noting that those two teams

had made more trades than any teams in the NFL that decade. And it's like, it is a bit of a copycat league. It's worked. Like teams, you can only acquire players in a certain amount of ways, free agency, the draft, and trades. And free agency gets worse and worse every year. So I think people are willing to do it. They did it with McCaffrey last year.

You mentioned Sequin, let's go there. He's not getting traded, we hear. Like, what is that dance like there? It's a little confusing. And I know the Giants won yesterday. There was a lot of one-win teams that won. And I don't know if that's going to hurt the market at all. But do you think guys like Adory Jackson is on my free agency list?

Leonard Williams is on it. Those guys seem like logical trade candidates. Paris Campbell, a guy that they signed and it certainly expected more of. Now you had a lot of incentives built into his. his contract that he had to earn on that one year deal. So that's a guy that we could see on the move. Definitely would be available if the team came with the proper compensation, not sure that that's going to happen. But go back to Saquan, who is your original question here. It is confusing. It's equal parts confusing and fascinating to me the way that the Giants

have handled the Saquan Barclay thing, because they were not that far away on a long-term deal when it came time to do the deadline, or it came time for the deadline to do a long-term deal with Saquan Barclay back in July, to the point where I knew. how close they were with a day and a half to go, I want to say. And I said, okay, that's the kind gap that's bridged. This deal is getting done. And it never did. The Giants didn't budge. And then after that, I said to myself, okay, well, take Juan Barkley's going to play out the 20, 23 season. And then he's done as a giant. And I got this indication that we would love to have him around and we're going to make another run at this after the season. And we feel like

we can get a long term deal done. I was like, you guys were right at the doorstep. And now you're going to do that. Okay. So now we get up to the trade deadline. Season. hasn't started the way that we thought it might for the Giants, maybe they're going to sell off Saquan Barkley. And the reporters asked him about it. He said, I don't want to be traded. And I did a little digging last week and was told that they basically told him, you're not going anywhere. We're keeping you. We still would love. It's like all this talk of we'd love for you to be around. It's not a regime that A drafted him or B would ever use a pick that high to draft the running back. So there's kind of been a couple of times where you're like, all right, here they're

out to get out from St. Juan Barclay. And yet they keep kind of digging in and saying, no, we'd love to have you around for luck. So listen, it's going to come to ahead this offseason either way. But to sit here two weeks ahead of the deadline before that two game stretch that really was going to determine whether they were buyers or sellers, which a lot of teams are in right now. I mean, teams have told other teams, yeah, we understand that you've have some interest and maybe some of our players. Check back in a couple weeks. We want to see where we are because there's not a great spread between the bottom of the conference in both conferences between the bottom and a playoff spot.

So a lot of teams were in waiting mode. The Giants are one of them. It's a huge middle class, as you're saying. And I think one thing that's fascinating about this, Sestog, is how the trade deadline is Tuesday, 31st. You got football on Sunday. And it's like, that's where it's going to get really interesting. So let's say the Giants, and this wouldn't be the worst outcome, get wiped by the Jets on Sunday. they have a very quick turnaround now to decide them amongst other teams

they're going to have bad Sundays. All right, is it time to be sellers as opposed to buyers? I just wonder, I know with the Giants, for instance, coach and front office married at the hip, like they're going to see things a similar way, but it's kind of tough to kind of tell your coaching staff, we're going to move someone like Seekwon Barclay. We're going to move X, Y, and Z.

I'd like to ask a question about the Eagles. I know you were with the Eagles as recently as last night. To Greg's point, Howie Roseman's always been super. active, aggressive, and they're at there. One of those teams, it's like, yes, absolutely, they're on the doorway of another Super Bowl. Like, Dave, got secondary injuries all over the place. Do you, have you heard

anything about them doing what they normally do, which is go out and add a couple guys to round out that roster? Well, they're doing what they normally do in that they nose around. They're always in on stuff. How we, there's not a call that he's afraid to make because he does investigate everything.

And sometimes it results in the kind of information that leads to a deal. He's maybe ahead of some other teams because he's willing to have those conversations. I'm not saying he's some kind of genius. That's just that's his method and he's always going to go that way. So yeah, they have been. And I know that they've had conversations about guys in the secondary who might be available, who might not be available.

They don't tend to spend a lot of money at the safety position. That's why like whenever they were connected to Buda Baker, it doesn't make sense because then you got to trade for him and give him top dollar. Justin Simmons is another one. Yeah, which would be sort of more of a rental. I mean, they've been connected as somebody connected them to Kyle Dugger, that would be a guy that they'd have to pay big. I mean, they've paid safeties, but it's usually kind of like that one step down kind of deal. It's not that top of the market type deal.

And Kyle Dugger, from my understanding, is looking for big money from the Patriots or from anybody who would be his next team. So they've been in some conversations. I wouldn't be surprised if they make some kind of addition. I just, I don't think it's a splash thing because they've certainly spent their money in the secondary at the corner. back position to bring back both Darius Slay, who had a big play against the Dolphins as well as James Bradbury. I mean, I'm hanging up the phone if Roseman calls me in this world. He's taken advantage of the vacuum that is in the marketplace because the GM app has not

been created. Dan has been trying to sell this GM app where people, you know, it's a social media app where you can post your players and everyone can see it. Right. Who can beat this? And how many times, I mean, how many times is the return on a trade underwhelming if he just would have truly gave someone else one last chance on the open market of the information super highway that enough of that mike hey how about the vikis so as we tape this they

got the niners on monday night and who knows maybe cousins goes off without jefferson and they have a huge game and and all of a sudden in a wide open and fc playoff picture they're believing in themselves well we thought about the browns last week with the nineers you never know but let's focus on kirk cousins which we're told or we've heard reported even though his contract is up here and they made a very purposeal decision to let this year play out that he's not going to accept the trade. However, we'll see what happens. Then the other big name on the other side of the ball, Daniel Hunter, who is one of the leading sack artists in the league that probably I would imagine is far more likely. But let's start with cousins. Any chance? Any chance at all.

I would love it. We would all love it from a storyline perspective, but could he be moved? How about the Cleveland? Come on. I find it. The Cleveland thing is old. The whole Cleveland thing is weird, by the way. I'll get to that in the second. I find it very, very much a long shot for that to happen. The hardest part with the quarterback. All right, let's say, like, the X's and O's, the playbook, all that stuff. Like, he's got to get used to that and acclimated and all that stuff. Okay, great. But then there's also the, I mean, how many times do we talk about it in April and May and June? This guy's holding a passing camp with his targets because they're going to work at the facility at OTAs, and then they're going to work by themselves as it because they got to get

that timing down. They've got to get that rhythm. that chemistry. Like, that's the other part of a quarterback coming in the middle of the season because you're really not getting those full speed reps during in-season practices the way that you would, let's say, during training camp, when you're kind of going all out because you don't have a game coming up in a couple of days. So that's what just makes it so difficult to trade for a quarterback on top of all the financial stuff that would come on top of that, as well as the compensation that you have to get back for a guy. So I find it very hard to believe that that cousin is going to be on the move here. Denio Hunter, yeah, I think that that's a possibility.

and these sides before the season came to an agreement to just get him back on the field and then the fold. So now it's at the point where an edge rusher, and we saw it with Bradley Chubb last year, it's a lot easier to take that guy and kind of plug him in and let him do his own thing. I mean, there's a scheme up front, everything you're working with. But in a lot of ways, he can kind of just do what he does and he doesn't need a lot of time to get acclimated with his teammates. Well, he's also 30 years old. He's one of the best eddressers right now. So he'd give a team a boost kind of like Von Miller when he was traded a few years ago.

but the Vikings clearly didn't want to meet his price or he would be signed long term and he has a no trade clause as part of that or no tag clause as part of that contract rather so it's like that that really spells you know Quessie is looking at this their GM like why would I not get

a second round type of pick or something good Brian Burns was offered like a lot of stuff a year ago actually I'm going to stick with pastures do you think Burns Chase Young is another name I feel like just would like logically make sense because he's having a nice season, but I don't see him getting re-signed there because Montez Sweat is also a free agent. Which I believe that they at least had exploratory discussions with sweat.

I'm not saying that they haven't had them with Chase Young, but my understanding is they've at least set the table for Montez Sweat there. It's hard. I mean, when you draft that many guys up front, and they've done a really good job, I think they've probably signed more already than I thought they were going to sign with being able to get Jonathan Allen extended. Duron Payne extended when you've got these two edge guys that you've got to make a decision on. And, you know, they didn't give Young the fifth year option.

And they said, well, that'll be kind of a motivational thing, kind of, you know, get them to prove that we can make the long term commitment to you, which is what you say. But I think it was in large part because he's had an injury history. And do we really want to fully guarantee that money to this guy? We could always franchise tag him if we have to. So I don't know. I mean, again, they're part of that cluster of teams. that is still in the mix, no matter how disappointed you can be when you lose to the Chicago Bears at home on a Thursday night a couple of weeks ago and then drop a game to the Giants that was certainly winnable the way that the Giants let them hang around in that one. So you got to make a decision. Do you want to be kind of at the back end of that?

To me, if I'm the commanders, you've got a new owner in there, which is always the catalyst for cleaning house. So it's not like you're saving up anything for the future, like win now and do what you have to do. So to me, if I'm the commanders, I hold on to Chase Young. We'll see as we get closer to the deadline. What about a team like the Titans who are in a division where if you got on a hot streak, you're alive potentially? But they feel kind of like clinging to the past because I think there were whispers in the offseason that someone like Ryan Tannahill might fit in Atlanta.

That, you know, he's hurt right now. But then a Derek Henry type figure, it's like, is Derek Henry part of the future in Tennessee? Or do you think they would be potential sellers if someone dialed up and said, We'd like to act Derek Henry to our potential Super Bowl roster. Let's lock in on Henry because I think that that's certainly the most interesting storyline there. It's, I think you still got enough left. You're getting to the point of the season where you want to run the ball. You want to run the ball physically.

This is a guy that can do it. Running back is also a position. And this is why rookies are so successful. You come into the NFL. Yes, there's scheme. Again, I understand that. But it's also see the hole, find the hole, hit the hole. That's why you can acclimate as a rookie quickly.

As a veteran changing teams, you're certainly capable of doing that as well. I would absolutely, if I'm a team looking for a physical presence, a physical runner down the stretch, would certainly look at Derek Henry as a possibility if I was a GM. And if it costs me a little more than I'm comfortable giving up, I'm fine with it because that is a message to your locker room, your offensive line, and certainly to defenses, they're going to have to tackle that guy because he's still, to me, a punishing, powerful runner. I've seen that on display this year. And Henry, I'm just looking at his financial situation.

This is the last year of guaranteed money on his deal as well, right? So that makes it even easier. Yeah. In Taji sounds right. Taji Spears is there. Kevin, Kevin Byard was another guy that they sort of had a contract stuff with. Like it is tough, though, if you're a Titans team.

It's the tricky part. Like, I don't know who the sellers are. Do you have any teams kind of just off the top of your head that you think are looking for anything specifically or buyers out there in general? I go right to Denver and sorry, one of you guys said it just a couple of minutes ago about you tell your coaching staff that you're taking talent away. I think in the case of the Broncos with Sean Payton, he's okay with setting this up for the long haul. And he spent this season, or at least the early part of this season, I think trying to figure out who are his guys, which pieces fit moving forward. Jerry Judy is the obvious one that we've continued to track here.

There's a lot of untapped potential there. We've seen it at times. I thought he really played well down the stretch. in 2022. I thought that that was going to be the point at which he turns the corner and carries that forward to this year, especially with Sean Peyton, a good offensive mind coming in as the head coach. I'm very disappointed in the production for Jerry. I shouldn't stay disappointed. I'm not his dad. That's Steve Smith. Your buddy, Steve. That's. Yes, Steve is not. Steve is disappointed. By the way. I was just going to say, I don't know if you had caught wind with my parallel that I drew

from that infamous night on Thursday night football where I kind of said you reminded me of a Mike Myers next to Kanye during the Katrina Telethon. I heard that one a couple of times. I've also been, I've also, yeah, since then, I've also. Damn it. I thought I was original. That was good. No, no, why you're always original. I've also heard meeting Gene Okerlin that I was kind of standing there and pretending to be, which, which I feel like a lot of times is what I do. That's, that's baldness, though. That's, you know, people are just, yeah. Well, that's not fair to you. It's pseudo, it's pseudo,

journalist, you know, that kind of thing. And then I did it again the other day when Pellisero had his unfortunate slip of the tongue in trying to say that Justin Tucker rang a 60-yard field goal, which we totally blew it. We just did our insider show on Monday. The Ravens won 38 to 6, five touchdowns, one field goal. And as the show was wrapping up, I said to Andrew Gruber, our producer, I was like, why did we not, like, we should have just run Justin Tucker's field goal and just been like, And here's Justin Tucker.

I have no idea how long it was. Here's Justin Tugger. You have 43-yard field goal or whatever it wound up being. We totally pulled that one. I was told I wasn't allowed to play that. Which annoyed me because I was really looking to escalate a potential feud with Pell Raisin. I feel like that would have taken it up a notch, some in-house heat. Speaking of that, real quick, no more.

We don't want it too far away. But what's it like doing that show? Because Pell Razor and Ian clearly hate each other. And, you know, they both want to be the king of the mountain. And then you're once again, you know, Mike Myers, I'll just caught in the middle of like this like a typhoon. Yeah, I kind of float, right? You know, like I'm, I'm okay kind of sneaking in there and, uh, having a couple of scoops

and then getting out and, you know, going doing whatever else I do with Steve Smith and all that stuff. Like I'm, I'm more of the five tool player, right? These guys, they're power hitters. They're swinging for the fences every time. Um, so that can lead to some friction. As a matter of fact, I can't tell a full story. Tom had a Nick Bolton dislocated wrist scoop today.

He's going to be out two months. He needs surgery. And he gave, he gave me in the kind of okey doke about that because we were talking about injuries. And we were, we were going through the list of injuries going into that show. And they had put Nick Bolton on the A list. Like,

are we going to hit Nick Bolton? And Tom was like, eh, like Nick Bolton's a really good player. But like linebacker versus quarterback or skill position guy, like we should bump him down or whatever. And then after the show was over, Like he had the Nick Bolton out for two. And Ian's like, so you downplay his importance, not from a football standpoint, from a sexy skill position.

Because that's what sells when it comes to injuries and stuff. And then you go out and you steal the scoop there. Like he lulled Ian the sleep. So the two of them. So Ian, I got to go back and check. Ian said he wasn't going to retweet it out of protest, which is quite possible. This is one of the biggest scoops. The ATN Media Insider, Dan Hansis has gone in you.

That sounds incredibly unhealthy. and I love it in terms of dynamic. Mike, let's get back on track, though. Where were we? Yeah. We were talking, oh yeah, so you were talking, Judy, the Broncos, maybe Corton and Sutton Sutton in the mix, maybe, all these names I'd feel like we've been hearing for years that these guys have been on the block.

Does it finally happen this week? If the Broncos don't make at least one move, one sizable, significant move, I'd be floor. I would absolutely be floor. You know, they've given up draft capital in the last couple of years for Russell Wilson. So a lot of times restock in the cupboard. in any way you can and kind of getting some of that back. But this is the regime that, you know, wasn't, I mean, Peyton wasn't a part of that.

So, yeah, if they don't make a move here, particularly because some of these pieces don't seem to fit for whatever reason with John Peyton and he's setting himself up for the long haul, I'd be absolutely floored if they don't make a move. And they've sold it like, well, we're not looking to sell anybody, but anybody can call us. My understanding, and it's been told to me by several GMs, as the Broncos kind of said, like, here's the menu. like, you know, let us know what you want and make a certain offer. Sir Tan's not on that menu, though, is he? I, that would floor me. Like, why?

Like, these are the cornerstone pieces. I've, like, heard other, like, fan base, even beat reporters being like, hey, we should just offer a second for Patrick Certain. It's like, yeah, you think you should? Like, the best young cornerback in the league is just going to be available for a second round pick. It's like, I think that I think that's just wishful thinking,

but you never know. Yeah, it would absolutely floor me because a lot of times. First for him, then maybe we talk. Well, yeah, okay, I understand that. I mean, if Jalen Ramsey was worth two first. Yeah, well, you're going to get this draft capital back, and then what are you going to do with it? You're going to go out to – it reminds me of the Kaleel Mack trade when the Raiders traded Caliomac.

And then John Gruden was like, well, you don't just find Kalil Max on trees. We had to go out and find one. Well, you had one. You're going to trade this stuff away. Then you're going to go get another one, you know. All right. We're going to let you go now, Mike, because you're a very busy man. And, of course, check him out on the insiders, and he's all over.

NFL network. Is there one kind of big name out there an all pro type guy that we had. Mike G. had the O'Dell Beckham story remember before anyone else. Once upon a time. Is there a star out there? Yeah, which is March. You're hearing some whispers or just anything, a little rumbling beneath the surface that could be in play. I don't want to put you on the spot here. And yet I have.

Let's get it before. Well, but you're asking the question I've heard from multiple GMs, which is it seems kind of quiet right now. And They're all afraid that they're missing something. So I've kind of heard that like, is there anything? Like, is there something I'm missing here? Like, I don't want to miss an opportunity. They're so scared of seeing stuff go down and be reported.

And it's like, well, wait, you need the GM app. Yeah, the GM app. The GM app. So I need guys like Mike G. We're all fine apps or downloaded. All right. Thank you, Mike. We appreciate you.

Thanks, Mike. Boys, I would never trade you. All right. All right back at you, buddy. All right. Stay right there. We'll be right back to close things out. All right, we're back

Always great Talking to Mike He's a good dude And Who On the scenes at the insiders That's something to try Not surprised

It could be a trade there as well Not surprised in the least That there's some Dan is way more excited About that And I don't blame him It was that was juicy There's something

Okay Okay Does it feel like a quiet It does feel quiet I just I don't know Is it one of those things The names Where like are we gonna get

We didn't see CMC coming Last year There's two ways to look at it it's one of those things like it's quiet, it's almost too quiet. Right. But I think that was interesting what Mike said right at the end there which was if, and

I'm sure this happens all the time. Like GMs and front office people are calling the insiders and they're like, hey, are you hearing anything because they don't want to miss out? But you imagine, there's going to be at least one you would think seismic move and just figuring out who it is. I keep coming back to

Devante Adams. Yeah. I keep coming back to where the Raiders are, which it just seems they're on the doorstep of a almost necessary rebuild. And he's a guy that's already spoken out that he needs the ball more. It's a team going nowhere.

He's a guy, I think he's 30 years old at this point. He is someone that makes so much sense as a final piece. He's a name that when I think about what would not surprise me, Sequin also would not surprise me the way. And there's interesting that there, obviously, and I know the Tish's

in Maras, like it's, the Maras, are more the personnel side and the tishes are more the business side. But it also sounds like there's some heads budding in that building about Sequin. When Mike says that the whole Sequin thing

is confusing to me that's like, well, there's the front office and the coach and then ownership. And that's when... Particularly with that team, with the Giants. But I want, with Adams, I feel like players are more empowered obviously than ever before

by Leaps and Bounds. And Adams has squawked in the offseason. He squawked a couple weeks ago. And it's like there is time if you're a disparate pleased player in your situation to raise a little bit of cane between now and the deadline where maybe it's like whatever the Raiders have said about trading Devante Adams, what if it gets difficult enough, where it's like, we need to listen.

And here's what makes most sense. In a way that NBA players have, for instance, James Hardin, what he's doing right now. But it would be heading towards that closer to that than away from it. And the Raiders did leak out, assuming it was from their end through ESPN this weekend that they've told teams they aren't trading Devontas or maybe it was the other teams that said that like some people start calling. But things could change. It makes so much.

Brian Hoyer will make you change. He is a guy that will fetch at least the first round pick. I know we always tend to overrate these trade scenarios. And then what comes back isn't nearly as large leading to talk about a GM app. But I think Adams is an example of that. That I think they could get a lot of future draft capital, a team that needs it, that needs to kind of figure out what they are. Yeah, I made a list.

and there's a lot of names, but the problem... Give us some name salad. Hit us. The problem is those teams that won yesterday, those four one-win teams, I think, could potentially take, you know, are the Patriots really going to be sellers? I just... But you know what? I get it.

I just don't see them doing that, you know what I mean? Why, because you've gone from... Look, you don't want to give up or send the messages. They're giving up. But if you go from one win to two, depending on who you beat and what happened, like, why suddenly are we locking down the fences and not selling anyone? This is why you've got to push the trade deadline back. I say this every year.

just push it two weeks back. It's so early that it's almost impossible to be out of it. But here's some names. I mean, I think Chase Young is a really interesting. He's quietly played really well this year. He was great against the Giants. Yeah, it's nice to see. Jalen Johnson is your number one coverage-graded quarterback,

or cornerback, sorry, for the Chicago Bears. He's had a very up-and-down career, like a lot of young cornerbacks. Like, his good is really good. They're going nowhere. He's 20. I don't know if they're going to sign him long term. So he's someone, I think he'd be like, wow, they got a two for Jalen Johnson. But it's like, Jalen Johnson's worth more than Chase Claypool was a year ago.

Dante Jackson is a... Hold that thought. We have a trade breaking news. Shut up. For real. It better not with Jalen Johnson. Well, that would be crazy. I would feel like an amazing...

Hit it, Roberts. Human being. Oh, and very rapid board. tell by the lack of characters. He's like, I've got to get this out before. Aesap. Hellraiser. According to a source, the Eagles are trading for Kevin Bayard. Did he come up today?

I just said Byer. I just sort of jammed it into the Titans question. I said, well, Byard was a guy they sort of had contract issues with in the offseason. He wanted a raise and then he got a pay cut. On topic. The veteran safety to a Eagles team that, and we brought up the Eagles. as well that has been kind of besieged by injuries in their secondary

and needed some help in that regard so you get an instant potential difference maker there and again I say never trade never trade with the Eagles you know Mike G's you know and discover that information just as we did and thought

and yeah he has already you know what he discovered he was like I could have had that if I weren't talking to the bozo yeah that's not a good that's not a good he does say and there goes how he's DB move I guess yes our Eagles defensive back conversation was there.

But that makes sense because I don't think they're going to pay him. He's just along for the ride. He's in the last year of his contract. He's a really smart, good player. Oh, I'm wrong there. I'm glad I checked this out. He is not in the last year of his contract.

I was confused because they did try to redo it. I think they actually got him. They asked him to take a pay cut and he said no. And they did the rare move of like, oh, actually you call their bluff. We're not going to cut you. we like you and they kept them but it spoke to something uncomfortable and in that relationship but unless the eagles feel like it they can keep them under salary next year for

about 13 million dollars i mean it's a lot for a safety but it's not outrageous and you know justin graver and all the other titans fans that's a clear signal that they are sellers and and another uh thing to point to now that is derrick henry uh on the move and whoever else could be on the move but henry again and that was interesting also that mike jr said, okay, that's the name to center on both, I think, because it's interesting to talk about and because it makes so much sense and what he said about how running backs can hit the ground running with a new team because the scheme isn't, you know, it's not team dependent as much. Very interesting. I would imagine he's gone now. I think he's gone. I know, but I'm trying

to think, like, who would trade for him? The team I thought in the off season would have fit, would have been the bills, but they, James Cook's been very good, so maybe not necessary. How about the bucks? I guess, I'm just thinking about teams who could, who could, who, see themselves. I like Baltimore, Greg. They could certainly use a running back. Baltimore, to me, he just seems like someone that they would trade for.

And I like Gus Edwards, but I think they want to run the ball a lot. They just are the home for wayward veterans that it's like, oh, Kyle Van Nuoy, like, come along and have your best season in five years out of nowhere and Janavian Clowny, and they're just like good at getting those

guys and Henry. What if the spicy Texans continue to win and trade it for Derek Henry? Would they trade? They wouldn't, I feel like in the division. I do not think Houston's in a cellar. I call it divish. Cellar mode. Plus, I have Damian Pearson, my fantasy, really waiting for that to work out.

Oh, you should have led with that. Brian Burns. Yes. I mean, he's a big time player. He's a free agent. The Panthers are 0.6. I'm like, who's definitely could be a seller? You would think the Panthers.

We actually heard that they're looking for a wide receiver, which is interesting. But I think that would be more of a Calvin Ridley type of situation. I know really was suspended, so that was unique. but it's like, is there someone out there that we could trade for and then sign long term? Darno Mooney, to me, is a NFL receiver. He fits. Well, that checks a box.

Well, what I mean is by that is like, Darno Mooney is not going to get everyone excited. We're not going to get an emergency podcast for him. But he could absolutely be in your top three receivers on a very good passing offense. And like so many teams need guys like that. He's a deep threat that I think would be worth going after. What about someone like Carl Lawson?

Yeah, I think they could dump him for. Yeah, he'll be most likely on the move as well. There's so many names. Dalvin Cook from the Jets as well. I wonder if they try to unload him because he certainly is not established himself. Here, by the way, some trade terms. The Titans get back a player, safety, Terrell Edmonds, and a fifth and sixth rounder.

Something tells me that that's not exactly what Titans fans are hoping for there. So the base, two day three draft picks and Edmonds, who's a downgrade from Byrd. That's too bad because Edmonds did great work on Mike last week at the Philadelphia Phillies game. It was kind of like a viral. Oh, right. I think it was him and might have been DeAndre Swift. I forget what it was. And then he's traded, you know, who he's just getting used to the.

Isn't it a tough? It's a tough thing being a professional athlete sometimes. You know what I saw in the athletic today, which it just feels, I know it was like a random. column, but it was like a Browns columnist saying the Browns really need to trade for Jacoby Brissette back. And I was like, I don't think it's going to happen because why would Washington feel like doing that? And like, why would the Browns give up anything that would make it worth it for Washington is more my point? Like, why do it unless you're getting like a third or fourth? And that just seems a little. They also, they also let Josh Dobbs go. So the Browns have

done a somewhat mysterious job. Right. Letting backup quarterbacks escape the bill. James could potentially be available if someone needed a quarterback, but I think the Jets are now out of that market. Can you imagine trading James Winston in the middle of the season and then saying here's the playbook and now be our starting quarterback? Good luck. Well, like if a team... Good luck to you.

I don't know who it would be. The Browns, I suppose, are the best example. No. We're not sure if our quarterback's going to be healthy and we're not really sure about PJ Walker bringing us to the playoffs. one, two in a row. I mean, like, Deshaun Watson, in theory, is starting next week.

I know, but they're in backup play. Kind of in purgatory. That's a strong. All right, so good stuff. Thank you again to Mike Garifolo, who is always great on this show. And just a little tease a little later in the week with Colleen Wolth,

we're going to have some more trade fun. I'll leave it at that. And you could probably figure it out. All right, big, busy week ahead of us on around the NFL. It's just getting started. remember we have Monday night football the recap coming up later NFL plus is back game of the week is brown v colts check it all out and he the call This is an IHeart podcast.