NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Trash takes & Draft facts

Episode Date: April 24, 2017

A room filled with heroes – Colleen Wolfe, Chris Wesseling, Gregg Rosenthal & Patrick Claybon – discuss all the latest from around the NFL including news that the Patriots are unlikely to trade corner back Malcolm Butler, and former No. 1 pick Jake Long retiring after nine years in the league. Then, the heroes dish out some Draft facts in a very special edition of Odds & Ends, and Patrick shares with us some of his favorite trash takes from the draft season. | Check out the full video show here: http://www.nfl.com/videos/around-the-nfl/0ap3000000802297/Trash-takes-Draft-facts-Full-ShowLearn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. The Around the NFL podcast is a solid third round draft pick. Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast driven by Hyundai. day. I'm your host, Colleen Wolfe, and I'm in a room filled with heroes. We have Patrick Claibon here. Wait, this is like a weird day. Everything's sort of off. Chris Wessling and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, guys? Hi, Colleen. It would be really weird if while you were

introducing the show, then you were like, and Dave Damasek, Adam Rank, and it would actually kind of be like a fun odd experiment. Or somebody that none of us have ever heard of. Yeah. And we just pretended like we've worked with this guy for so long, and he's just a completely fictional person. wild card and it's Tony Garcia so Dan is off today enjoying his me yundies I'm sure maybe he's out with the car brothers maybe a little bit of both who knows Keith Hansis was in town his dad and his parents so he's taking some well-deserved time plus we got this draft week so we're working through the weekend we got shows the rest of the week we might even have a show tomorrow but we definitely have shows Thursday night Saturday night and so he's with

this family and Mark has the day off too, so we're getting home. Look at this. It's a whole different crew in here. I like it. I'm so excited. It's draft week. I'm going back to Philly tomorrow. I'm not packed at all, but I'm totally prepared, everybody. It's going to be great. How long does that process take? Way too long. To pack? Or to like, yeah, to pack way too long. I mean, I got to wash. Oh, man. I got to wait for things to dry. Is this going to be like a concrete hour or something that's going to take a while going to do that for the week it's going to be like a conquering hero situation you returning to philadelphia this is like your super bowl you're on every day it's it in your hometown this is kind of collie will you jog through the streets like like i might well

probably because i'll be late i'm sure so i will be jogging anyway but yeah i have there's so many sandwiches that i need to have there's a bunch of people i want to see i can't wait to go home i'm so excited it's pretty that's pretty cool and in claybon i have to give a special thanks to he was able to wriggle out of his doctor's appointment for his infant son. Wow. So he's showing what's important. Well, Lauren, appreciate the position that this podcast can place people in. It's a tremendous opportunity.

It's a real star maker. So thank you, Lauren, for that. And Sid, what's going on with you? Did you have a good weekend? I did. I went and hung out at the WB lot. It was great fun. Wait, what is?

Uh-oh. Yeah? What does that mean? It means I just, I went in a bus with a bunch of other tourists and took tourists in pictures. Oh, like you took a tour for a couple hours. Oh, you're just hanging out with the boom operators. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm a pretty big deal, so.

I thought that was like some sort of weird Disney slang for getting drunk with Mickey or something. Maybe it is. You don't know. Sid leads a very entertaining life. I mean, I feel like you're always out. You're always doing stuff. I'm more of like a shut-in. I kind of just keep to my couch and living room.

Well, I like to know that impression, sure. Yeah. I'm the same kind of shut him. I was going to say, if you consider, like, sitting in wall-to-wall rush hour traffic on the way to Disney land on a weeknight fun. Yeah, I like to put off the impression that I go out and do things, but I really, I really don't. Well, we're glad you're here. We have so much going on in the show.

We've got to get to it. Let's get to the news, guys. Is that draft related enough for you? Greg. All right, so Malcolm Butler, he signed his contract tender with the Patriots, and so at this point now they can trade him. We've been waiting to see whether or not he would be traded to another team before the draft because the Patriots don't have a pick in the first or second round, and he got

far enough into talks with the Saints that they were discussing some basic terms and an agreement, but now the Saints are leaning against this trade. So, Wes, what do you think of this? Well, Rapsheet has been reporting for about a month now that the representatives for the Saints and the representatives for Malcolm Butler are pretty close to an agreement. So now it looks like all that is still the same. It's just that now that he's signed, he's able to be traded, but Draft Weekend is here, and this is why it's newsy, because draft weekends usually propel trades.

And it doesn't sound like the Saints are willing to give up any of their early picks. and the Patriots aren't just going to let a good quarterback, cornerback go away for a third or fourth round pick or something like that. Let me present a baseless theory here with no backing whatsoever. Let's say there's a conversation. That's what we've come to expect from you. Let's say there's a conversation between Sean Payton, Bill Belichick, and company about Brandon Cooks, Malcolm Butler, the picks.

And it's like, okay, this is going to happen, this is going to happen. Well, at some point here in the past couple weeks, this is going to happen that Sean Peyton and the Saints believe what's going to happen. Yeah. did not happen on behalf of the Patriots. And now we're starting to wonder like, hey, this deal we were talking about, this extended month-long conversation that was supposed to play out. Like, what's going on now?

So you think that the Patriots promised something and didn't deliver? Maybe it was something that was suggested that could happen. Yeah, because why get that far along and talks and not go anywhere? Well, because the Patriots probably feel like they have the upper hand because they don't have to make a bad trade. I believe them that they're happy to keep Malcolm Butler. He's an unbelievable value at $3.9 million. I think they believe there's no way they're going to sign them long term.

So that's why they're willing to trade him. But this report from MMQB's Peter King says, the Saints are leaning towards keeping their first three picks, 1132 and 42. Well, first of all, leaning toward, you know, starting the week of the draft. That doesn't sound too strong. Anyways, but it's like, okay, those are their good picks. Why would the Patriots be trading Malcolm Butler for a bad pick? One year of Malcolm Butler is worth a lot to me.

Especially me personally. Don't do it. So, I mean, the Saints really need help on that defense. I think that Malcolm Butler's name went out of those trade talks in early March for a reason because the Saints and Patriots couldn't agree on his value. Right. And that's a lot more rational way to look. Yeah, that's true.

In my particular. And like, is there a part of the Patriots that looks at the Chandler Jones trade and thinks, well, that was, that was okay. You know, they actually ended up moving around and they got, you know, they got some picks for that. And Malcolm Mitchell ended up being one of those picks. But it's like, you still didn't have Chandler Jones for the, for the year. Greg, stop. It took value. Stop.

They won the Super Bowl. What more do you want? Okay. All right. He wants to not be down 28 to 3. That's what Greg wants. We're going to end. They won the most exciting Super Bowl.

Two years after they previously won the most exciting Super Bowl. I think you can let go of Chandler Jones now. I think they're doing okay without them. I mean, it must be nice, though. It's just so comfortable on the throne. But we don't have an edge rusher on the throne. What are we going to do? I think it's the flutes.

The flutes make people antsy on the throne. I also, by the way, I don't buy any of this. See? It's Monday. Like, on cue. He just starts pointing and shouting. Well, I don't buy that a trade's unlikely anyway. It's Monday of the draft. Get ready for Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.

This isn't unlikely. This is unlikely. There's going to be a lot of just smoke being thrown out there, and you don't really know what it is. It's kind of negotiating through the media. And if I was Bill Belichick, I would be looking at Mickey Loomis, and I would be looking at him as a chump. He's one of the worst general managers in the league,

and you think you can win the trade with Mickey Loomis. I did some research on all this. draft trade talk very frequently it doesn't happen you'll see picks for picks but you rarely see veterans of any importance whatsoever traded during draft week darrell rivas being the obvious exception there's so much smoke during this week it's hard to even like really see what's going on all you hear is just like nonsense and it's almost like i feel like a hamster just like spinning on a wheel i'm not going anywhere but i'm just trying to keep up with all of the nonsense that's going on but it helps the draft is outside, so the smoke will dissipate.

Right. For the first time ever. Yes. All outdoors, which is kind of dicey. We, like, it's outside! We need to take advantage of your experience with Philadelphia weather here in late April. How, how concerned should we be? Well, I looked at the weather report, and that's something that you actually have to do when you live in Philadelphia, unlike L.A., where I haven't looked at a weather report or listened to anything weather related and almost

three years. I would never ever, if I was having a wedding outside, first of all, I would never plan it this time of year. You never know what's going to happen. It could be freezing. It could be raining. And then if it's raining, it's so ugly. I'm fired up now, baby.

I know. But it's going to be nice. Although I've seen the pictures. They have like risers and they have a covering and it even sort of made me wonder, is that really outside? Well, there is some debate about whether a tent counts as outdoors. But it is outdoors. It's just not out flaps.

It depends on the tent. Covered outdoors. I don't know. Last year in Chicago, we were in like an enclosed. It was almost like a fish bowl, but we were still outside. And it was pouring.

And it started pouring into the studio where we were and just like raining on electrical equipment and lighting. So they saw that and they were like, let's double down on that. Let's just do everything outdoors. We can really sell this aspect of the draft. Outside! Outside!

All right, moving on. Ruben Foster, he's had a rough time since the Combine. And it almost feels like this happened so long ago with the amount of news that's happening. But the Alabama linebacker, he was notified that his urine sample from the Combine was diluted. Now, NFL policy flags anything that's diluted as a positive test. So he brought it to Ian Rappaport and to NFL. Bell. He wanted to be open and honest about it. He explained that he was sick and that he was maybe experiencing some food poisoning situation. He went to the doctor and the doctor offered to give

him an IV to hydrate him. But instead he was like, nah, I'm going to take some medicine. I'm going to hydrate myself. But this comes after he was sent home from the combine after getting into it with medical personnel, someone from the medical staff. So this is a lot of This has been a tough time for him. I'm not sure it's really going to hurt his draft stock, but what do you think, Gregory? Well, it's Greg, first. You finish it off with the extra G at the end.

That was the intention. We're getting a little extra G today, I'm doing it. Yeah. 60% G. That's my softball name. One of them. Once we get our jerseys. I don't know a lot about Robin Foster,

but who gets in a fight with a medical personnel at the common? You cannot have a worse combine than he had to fail a drug test to get in a fight. Now it makes me wonder what was he getting to fight, and maybe it was something to do with this sample. Well, I think they really poke and prod at you. And if you have any type of past injury, they want to, like, see if there's anything there. I'm going to throw this to Claibon because he knows a lot about the SEC,

knows a lot about college in general. It's just not a mistake that Claibon and Colleen are on the show. They're kind of draft experts. They're really carrying the load. We didn't even mention what's coming up. We've got, you know, Claibon's trash takes coming up. We've got Colleen's odds and ends. We've got some other games, Colleen, throwing out.

But I wanted to ask you about. And one has a sponsorship. Oh, yeah. It's really exciting to show me. I wanted to throw it to Claibon because I've heard through, you know, the grapevine at least. Foster has not endeared himself to NFL teams, even beyond what's been in the headlines. That he's missed meetings when he's met with teams. He's, like, missed, like, he's supposed to go.

out for breakfast or something with people and then he doesn't like over like that i can't really speak to any particular breakfast order that he did or didn't make i do know from from what i've heard about the combine situation he's at the hospital uh he's waiting for an extended period of time everybody else is going to this job interview and it's reported that he was there for four hours and at one point he said hey you know i'm here for the draft i'd like to do this and then you know a guy working at the hospital he got a little trill got up in his face and then there was a there was a verbal altercation and they eventually sent him home of that. I know we've seen Mike Mayock say that teams really don't care about the hospital situation.

Okay. The biggest concern what Ian Rappaport said on up to the minute on Friday was the shoulder. And we're seeing, because I followed Rubin on Twitter forever ago during his recruitment at Alabama. And so now he's got, he's constantly, he just is tweeting out his ultrasound that he's getting ultrasound therapy with his agent, is tweeting pictures, the back of his shoulder says, the doctor says it's phenomenal. Everything's going great. And so it's a question of how much credence do you really give these issues? Because as you said, it's smokescreen season.

Do you give any credence after watching him in college? Yeah, no, I think Ruben's a spectacular football player. I know he used to during his freshman and sophomore year, he had a propensity to take himself out of games because he would lower his head. And that's where he wears that giant neck roll because he tried to just crush people all the time and make highlights. And so he got a little bit of that out of the system. And that's the only thing I'm concerned with. So you think he'll be a good pro.

I do. Sounds like he's a real competitor. He's a football player. It's perfectly acceptable to lose your temper if you're forced to wait in line for four hours at anything. True. Including the hospital. That feels like a DMV situation.

Yes. Yeah, and the NFL's antiquated marijuana rules, we don't know when those are going to change or not. So if it changes in the next year or two has failed combine drug test wouldn't be that big of an issue, but I guess they can't really rely on that now. Well, it would be interesting to see if it hurts him or not. I don't know if any of this stuff that we're talking about hurts him,

but if whether it's fair or not, if teams when they had them in the building weren't getting the greatest impression of his maturity and that was their perception of it from those meetings, that could hurt him more than anything that happened at the combine, anything like that. Yeah, I feel like. If people thought he might go to the Saints, for instance, at 12, like that's an early pick. Yeah, it almost feels like his damage control is sort of,

of hurting him even more at some points. I feel like he's trying to overcompensate at this point, and he just needs to take a step back and let everything happen and fall as it does. Just be cool. Be cool, man. Just relax. Everything's fine.

All right. Speaking of being cool, Marshawn Lynch. The Raiders are trying to figure out what's going on with him. They have three days to figure out if he's going to be on the team or not. It sounds like the two sides are about $1.5 million apart. and Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie said at some point you would like to know prior to the draft is that exact point. What are they going to do here?

And do you think that they're actually going to reach an agreement in time? This story got on my radar on Friday because you got the sense from the Raiders. They weren't. I was waiting for that. I think this is the first time anything's been on my radar. Yeah. I radar is pretty low.

I don't really have a radar. It's not a lot of people's radar, too, to be fair. Just because I think the Raiders are wondering, does this, I read between the lines, maybe I'm wrong, the Raiders are wondering, does this guy really want to play? It was the first time in this whole process, I thought, oh, maybe this isn't a sure thing. Because I, from listening to Ian Rapport's reporting and everything,

like I think they can work out a trade. I think they can work out the money. I don't know if they've gotten 100% word from Marshaun Lynch, like, hey, I want to show up and start playing. Like, that maybe is still up in the air, whether he wants to play football or no. I'd wonder, too. Dude's retired, and he wants more money than Adrian Peterson. Like, okay.

Do you want to play or do you not want to play? I think if we know anything about Marshawn, he wants to play for the right price. And if he doesn't get that price, he's not going to play. Like, Marshaun Lynch is, as much as he loves Oakland, he's not going to do it out of the kindness of his own heart. He's going to do it to be compensated financially. And so I think... But it sounds like they're not that far apart, relatively.

So if that really is the gap, then I would expect him to be signed and us to be talking about it before the draft. I just wonder how he'll be. And this draft class is so deep with really talented running backs. And when I'm looking at him and I'm looking at the guys that are coming in and they're younger and they're fresh legs, I mean, do you really, are you really gaining a lot from this? Or would you rather go after somebody in the draft? And you don't have to make the financial investment. You could potentially have one of these guys, a Dalvin Cook, a Leonard Fournette for five years.

But you're just not going to have as entertaining or as exciting of a season. True. It's true. And they have two young guys. I think that's a huge, huge part of it. They have two second-year players. So I think they look at it like they have two second-year players. They know that they like in DeAndre Washington and Jalen Richard.

And so adding a veteran sort of makes more sense to them than adding a third young player. Because if Lynch doesn't work out, I think they could live off of those two guys. What's the biggest jackpot in sports? Entertainment plus competitive advantage. I mean, if you are a fun team and you're also a good team, those are the teams, the whole country, the whole world likes. I've seen my only sports loyalty now is the Cincinnati Reds. I've seen some years where they win 96 games and they're boring.

But also seen years where they're kind of a 500 team and they're exciting to watch. You're in on them this year. Oh, I'm so in on the Reds this year. I have no belief that they're going to be. Whoa, you're glowing. I know. It's weird to see Wes care about a sports team. Oh, I had the spreadsheets out last night looking at their 40-man roster.

Tell me more about these spreadsheets. Oh, look. Look at this. Wes. One of the great. Oh, my God. This is so cool. And I know that this is a podcast and everybody listening can't see.

But there's colors and there's a grid system. Well, you do bring up a good fact we should mention. This show is being streamed on NFL.com. Monday night, if you happen to listen to the podcast early at 9 p.m. Eastern time. Look at that. I am under. You can kind of see it, yeah. I'm under no delusion that the Reds are going to be like winning their division.

If they can keep me in it until September by some unlikely stories, and they do have some unlikely fun stories like Bronson Arroyo three years from his last pitch, now 40 years old, still winning games. I want, I want. Save it for NFL's MLB podcast. I want my wife to look at me the same way Colleen looks at spreadsheet. Well, I, one of the great listeners of this pod sent us an amazing, like, Excel document of the schedule release, and it was color-coded, and it was very organized, and I loved it.

I saved it. My head started hurting. I clicked on the tweet, and my head started hurting. I was like, whoa. A lot of dissonance there. I was worried it was. like junk mail or something that was going to be a virus on the computer. Of course you were, Greg.

Do you get that a lot? What do you want, AOL or Hotmail? What are you doing? Wes actually opens all of Greg's mail. It just passes it over the test. Here, honey, here's the keys. Go turn on my car. All right.

So let's move on to Jalen Smith. So the Cowboys former second round pick linebacker, good news for him. His nerve is regenerating again, which that sounds really ominous, but at the same time, promising. His knee had some nerve issues, and they've been waiting for it to regenerate, and it's sort of been a lot slower of a process than everybody had hoped for, but now he's gaining muscle control.

Wes, this, I think, was on your radar, right? Well, it's hard to reconcile the Cowboys' excitement versus the medical reports coming out of there. Stephen Jones came in late Friday and said, we're more fired up than ever that we took a draft flyer on this guy. He's making great improvements we expect him for OTAs. And then you see lines and rap sheets report like, there's still a long way to go, but he's slowly getting muscle control,

as if he's like an eight-month-old baby getting muscle control over his legs. That is not a good sign for an NFL player. They already know he's never going to be the player he was at Notre Dame. It's just what fraction of that player is he going to be someday. Well, maybe he, like, makes some amazing comeback like Adrian Peterson did, and he's, like, all of a sudden, the billion-dollar man. Well, I think he's going to need to more quickly get muscle control. The issue there, because we look at surgeries and we see, like,

okay, well, this guy got this procedure, and so he should have the same recovery time. This other guy who got the same. But people, like, humans don't really work on. No, we put everything on paper, Claibon. That's how it works. And so, like, in spreadsheets. When I saw the nerve-firing issues months ago, it's like,

well, I mean, this guy had a pretty expansive. operation right cutting just like you think about like auto parts but it's not that it's like meat you're just just cutting into and sewing back together and so I really um don't be weird clayv no I just it's it's and to see frank and bon I see the Stephen Jones point where he's got to come out and support the guy yeah that they drafted like well we're still excited about this guy but if he's not if he's not ready for OTAs or if he's not ready for training camp or week one I think

that's not, it's not time to give up. Right. And the idea of Jalen Smith yet. And, well, that's true. And the context of how he said it back in March, for instance, is important. Like, he was getting really defensively. Oh, no, we didn't lose that many free agents. We're fine.

Like, things are fine. We've got a plan. You know, Jalen Smith is a guy that we're really excited about. And it was almost like a, like, this guy's going to be a huge difference maker for us. And you're right. You don't know. And the reality is even though we do look at past surgeries, there aren't many examples of NFL players, for instance,

they asked Stephen Jones, do you have another example of another player who played with a brace for drop foot, which is how he's, you know, they're expecting him to be part of OTAs with a brace on his foot or leg for drop foot, which, you know, I don't really understand. Please explain to us what drop foot is.

I don't really know what that is, but they're basically. Your nerve doesn't work in your foot. Right, they're in uncharted territory, is all I'm saying. This is true. Topfoot sounds like something a British soldier got in 1864 at the Battle of Cornwall. They took him with a third pick in the second round. Man, that is so high. And if you look at the other players, and it's almost unfair to do this,

but just if you take a sprinkling of the next five or six players taken, it happens to be extremely good sample size for a second round picks. Hunter Henry looks awesome. Miles Jack, we'll see. Chris Jones, one of the best defensive. rookies last year. Zavian Howard starting at the end of the year. Noah Spence looked really good. Sterling Shepard. So those are the types of players you can get at that part of the draft. Guys, we have a little breaking news here.

Oh, wow. I just got word from Sydney that Jake Long has announced his retirement. Oh, okay. So. Farewell. Great job. You did it. Now you're done. I think the NFL retired him a couple years ago. Look, this guy, he was the number one overall pick in a year where the dolphins passed on Matt Ryan. This was Bill Parcell's passing on Matt Ryan, I believe, because he loved Chad Henney. Wow, that's a great thing to remember when people are kissing up to Bill Parcells.

Well, I mean, he's a great coach. In the back pocket. He's not in the Hall of Fame for his general manager or his team czar abilities. It's because he was a great coach. But this guy was a, I believe he was a pro-ball or an all-pro, his first four years in the league. and injuries just ruined his career. I mean, he was among the best left tackles in football. That's a good point.

I'm looking at now, first team all pro in his second year. He was a second team all pro as a rookie. So he was a good pick that was devastated by injuries pretty quickly. Careers don't normally happen in this era quite like that. Those sort of careers used to happen all the time where you're a great, great player and then fall off after four or five years. But I thought, did anyone else have the same thought when they heard Jake Long was retiring as it relates to this podcast or now? You're thinking about Dan?

This guy was a, I believe, four-time or three-time captain of the graybeards. Dan's team of free agents every year. He has been on the team, I think, four straight years. He's an all pro. The roster taking a huge hit. I mean, I'm looking at his retirement note here, and he leaves out Dan, which is shocking to me. Dan's not going to like that. He's shot now, Tom Condon, Dr. James Andrews.

And Lloyd Carr, or the three shoutouts at the last bit of his retirement note. Wow. And then he just rode off into the sunset. Did any college or pro coach ever look more like a cartoon supervillain than Lloyd Carr? Let's see. I don't think so. I don't want to get in trouble. It looks like some guy that Scooby-Doo would pull the mask off of.

Working at a carnival. You are right. I think we could split screen. Way to go, Colleen, jump in, uh, just breaking in there. I mean, that means you're, you're sending a message to. There's a lot of moving parts right now. I got, I got this going on, hosting a path to the draft after this. Oh, wow.

I killed a roach last night. Wow. Yeah, I know. It was like really traumatizing. It was actually like there was a home intruder. You don't see too many roaches in, in, I know, and I'm like a clean freak. And you guys have been over. Well, Wes, you've been over.

I mean, it was really bad. Claibon and I have never been able to say. Just to clarify. Yes and Colleen are much better friends. And Greg's my neighbor. I live like a block away. Well, the fun of Colleen's house happens after you're in bed. Oh, I'm roasted.

Yeah, dad. Please. Well, next time, if I see another bug, I'll call you up and you can come kill it. Don't you have a husband for that? He's in Utah. Oh, okay. Yeah. Do you guys know what his name is?

Greg, you should tell the folks. Listeners have never heard about it. John Roller was born March 12, 1977. His American sports writer who's married to NFL media broadcaster, Colleen Wolfe. John, who's a Pisces resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. Just to clarify. For those who didn't know. Where did that come from?

I'm a Pisces too. Are you? Wow. Greg and I are sometimes we're Pisces, sometimes we're Aquarius. Sometimes we rhyme slow. You're on the cusp? You're on the cusp. Oh, wow.

You have the same birth. Oh, that's right, and I forget every year, because I'm a good friend. Yeah, never over. All right, we have, ooh, how about this? We have a sponsorship here. Time now for draft facts driven by Hyundai. You know what it is, guys? What is it?

It's time for odds and ends, odds and ends. Hey, everybody, tell your friends, because it's time for odds and ends. All right, so it's a work in progress. Yeah. I never know when it's going to end. We're not going to be too hard. Just like everybody involved. Odds and ends driven by Hyundai.

Yeah. That's amazing. Also, thank you to everybody who's listening right now who sends me pictures of signs that say odds and ends because it's one of my favorite things. I mean, this is one of the reasons Hyundai wanted to jump on board with us. Yeah. They were huge fans of odds and ends.

They're like, hey, how about four shows in? Can you have Colleen on? I don't think Dan even knows that I have a sponsorship on his podcast, your podcast. So how about that, Dan? All right. So this Odds and Ends edition is an all-draft edition. I had a chance to talk to a lot of the guys at the Combine, which was really cool. And I got some different weird, odd facts and stories.

And some of them aren't really necessarily fun facts. but let's start with Miles Garrett. He's going to be number one overall pick. And I feel like a lot of people know. Mark Sessler hopes he's going to be the number one overall. I know. Now it's starting to bubble up. I can't stand these stories about them taking a quarterback there.

Like, stop. It's not going to happen. I don't want to hear it anymore. I'm done with that. I think that's why Mark's off today. He was just so tortured by this news and speculation. Just a ball of potential energy ready to do it. He's in the fetal position right now.

Sorry, Mark. Rock him back. So Miles Garrett, he was on Twitter for a while. He quit it. So he's off all Twitter and social media. He's obsessed with the 70s. Loves the 70s is like the culture, the music, everything about it. Miles Garrett and I would get along famously.

Well, he's a huge bookworm, too. Wow, they need to draft this guy. I know. He loves the 70s, like the drugs, the casual racism. It was great. I mean, you know, I'm sure there's some things that he likes more than others about the 70s. He writes his own poetry, big poetry writer. I like that.

But the big thing is he's really into dinosaurs and which I was like, oh, man, I want him to go to a team with Will Hayes. I want him to go to Miami. So they can have debate? Yes. So. Maybe they can bring Carl Everett into it. Oh. Yeah.

Maybe. Miles Garrett reference. Thank you for that. Before William Hayes, Carl Everett was about as well known to our listeners as John Gonzalez. You have to reward the few listeners who know him. John Roland Gonzalez born in March 12, 1977. His American sports writer was married to NFL media broadcaster Colleen Wolfe. John, whose a Pisces resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs.

The drop gave me a chance to Google Carl Everett, by the way. Oh, yeah. I'm glad I'm not the only one. I was just like, oh, yeah. I'm with you. Red Sox's great. Yeah. Long before Will.

Hays, Carl Everett used to say there was no such thing as dinosaurs. They never roamed the earth. All this, you know, more pro athletes breeding ignorant. Wow. He was like an unlikable, Will Hayes. Wilhelm, like, no unlike Carol ever. Well, Miles Garrett's on the complete opposite end of the spectrum, and he wanted to be an archaeologist.

He dug up his, like, entire backyard when he was a little kid. And then at the combine, we did a little quiz with him, a dinosaur quiz. And he had the answers before I could even get the questions out. That sounds fascinating. He really is. The Renaissance man. I know. So there's Miles Garrett for you.

Well, dinosaurs, I was thinking about this. Like, what are other things that are, yeah, that are unbelievably popular with like six, seven-year-olds? Like, you would think, like, looking at how much six-seven-year-olds or whatever study dinosaurs, that that would end up being like a bigger deal in life. But by the time you're 10, then no one cares about. about dinosaurs ever again. So you're saying archaeologists are immature? No, but they're a niche. Like, they're a niche.

This is, wow. Extra G today, baby. You're saying that everybody grows out of this by the time they're eight years old, except for people who study it for a living. Way more than 60% G today. All right. Way more.

You're twisting my word here. Greg hates archaeologists, and that's all you need to know. Dinosaurs are like the equivalent Barbie dolls of Star Wars Like Like no no

Star Wars You're breaking my heart Movie release No no no no I'm saying they are the most popular thing out there They're the number one thing They're the number one thing In the pop culture of

They are And they fall off pretty hard It's like garbage trucks For four year olds Have we ever spoken about dinosaurs? Well I think my generation is a little askew there because in 1993, Jurassic Park came out.

And then the Toronto Raptors named their team after a movie. And so dinosaurs were hot there for about eight or nine years during a formative time in my life. We're exposed to a lot of science. It's just like Fast and Furious. Yes. I've got coffee can exhaust. So you think Greg's a little over the top with his dinosaur analysis?

No. I trust Greg with my life. Like I'm saying like the amount of facts. in things that an average 7-year-old knows about dinosaurs far exceeds the average thing in adult knows, for instance. And that's not true of just about anything else. Are you saying we should invest more time in teaching our children contemporary things as opposed to things that happen 65 million?

I mean, it seems to, yeah. Great point. A hot point. I was just asking if that's what Greg was saying. I wasn't saying that, but I like that interpretation. All right, sorry. We're going to have a lot more of these. Okay.

Here's a quick one. The two DBs, you have Jamal Adams from LSU and Tis Tabor from Florida. They have a little bet going on. Tiz Tabor. Okay. Tabor. Tabor. Tabor. Some people go. Oh, Tess.

No, I've heard, I've heard, I literally have no idea. Oh, God. Okay. I don't know. I think his real name is Jalen. You got to find this out by Thursday. Yeah, I know. Tees is a nickname.

Yeah. On a show that actually matters. You got to get ready for that. Well, so T's, I guess he's. said that all of his close friends call him Tees and he came on path to the draft the last time I was on. And I was like, hey, Tees. How are you on Colleen? He was like, oh, Jalen. I was like, oh, so we're not there yet, I guess. No, no big deal. All right. And Bucky Bush was like, oh, Jaylen. Yeah, I know. So anyway, these two guys, they have a little bet going on that whoever goes

first in the draft pays to send the other on a trip. elsewhere in the country so i would guess that the guy i've heard of is going to be drafted ahead of the guy i've not heard of jemal adams is definitely going to go first right so that means tis tabor has to or jalen has to pay for him to go anywhere so i asked jamal adams at the combine where he would want to go this was supposed to be anywhere in the country so he said paris so i was like well and he's like no no no we're expanding it i want to go somewhere high class like paris I like it.

So it looks like T's is going to have to pay to send Jalen to Paris. We'll see on Thursday. There's also a Paris, Texas. Oh, that loophole is wonderful. It's a Paris, Kentucky as well. Really? How do you notice? There's a London, because you drive through it on the way down south.

You live in Cincinnati. And in the Paris, Texas, not only that, I know that in Paris, Texas, they have a little mini Eiffel Tower, but at the top, it has a cowboy hat on it. No, it does not. They should make an emoji out of that. Eiffel Tower with a cowboy hat. Oh, my God. Put in the request now, Wes.

That's actually the full ad. It's like, Eiffel Tower with a cowboy hat. Wow, that was good. Okay. V-O voiceover producers and directors out there. Contact Patrick. Yeah. That's good.

So this one isn't really fun. It's just like, oh, my God, I can't believe this happened in, our era. O.J. Howard, tight end from Alabama. He went to, when he was a junior in high school, this was 2011. His principal told him that he couldn't take his girlfriend to prom

because she was white. What? I know. When I heard the story, I was like, you've got to be kidding me. And this happened when? This happened six, seven years ago. Where he went to high school was originally opened as a segregation, a cat.

which was like opened in 1969 to kind of skirt the laws so obviously when this happened like everybody freaked out because what the hell it's 2011 get a grip and the principal apologized at a schoolwide assembly and then went on leave oj ended up taking his girlfriend to prom and his sister went with a white student and she was named homecoming queen and then oj's parents and oj's girlfriend's parents also went to the prom and they trolled the awful board members from the high school, but OJ's mom walked in with OJ's girlfriend's dad, and then OJ's dad walked in with OJ's girlfriend's mom. So technically four black and white couples went to the prom after they tried to tell OJ that he couldn't bring his girlfriend.

That is amazing to me that in 2011, something like that still happened. And maybe I'm just, maybe in Philly, I'm not used to that as much as other places. But this was in Alabama. This was Otaga Academy, which, like Colleen said, to skirt the laws when Brown v. Board came down. A lot of places just went around and said, well, you know, we'll have private schools. We'll have certain admission standards and we'll need people to live in certain areas and through a red line. Eventually, like, people were able to keep segregation alive. The racists are among the most determined people on earth.

My God. And you grew up in near Birmingham. I grew up in Birmingham, and so the difference, you know, we have conversations, whereas other parts of the world, you know, this story might come as a surprise. I doubt in 2017 through what happened last year, people are surprised anymore about, well, you know, well, this is, you know, this is a, like he said about dinosaurs, you know, this is a part of the history of our country that a lot of people don't realize has such a impact that it does today. So, yeah, it sucks. It does suck. And they're paying money. But it's real.

That's an academy. Yeah. They're paying money to go there. Now the road outside the high school is O.J. Howard Lane. Good for the Howard's to attempt to get people to stand outside their narrow mindsets. But in my experience, usually has no long-term effect. But it sucks that the burden was on them to be so much better. Absolutely.

You have to be better. You have to go high constantly. And so that, you know, here's a kid that gets exhausting. A five-star recruit that was going to Alabama, so he was able to get his way. You know, that's like you can't. It's a good point. It was basically anyone else we would have never. What if it's Steve Johnson?

We'd have never heard about it. Steve Johnson, former Portland Trailblazer Center in the early 80s. Well, maybe he gets his date too. Oh my God. Yeah. So that story, he's such a nice kid. He's such a talented tight end. He's going to go really high.

I think top 10 probably. Dan's hoping he lands with the Jets. I mean, I've seen a ton of mock drafts where he goes to the Jets. Any comparisons? as an Alabama enthusiast for O.J. Howard as a pro? I'm horrible at player comps. I do know that OJ is a really good, really good football player. I've heard some Greg Olson time.

He's a big dude and he's a great pass catcher. He doesn't, I mean, nobody, it's going to be a while for anybody has wheels like Greg as able to do that. But I do know OJ is balanced in his game. And he was working on the blocking aspect because he's, you know, a 6'5 kid. If you watch the Autaga Academy, which we were just talking about, if we watched, that was a low, low-level high school. Watch OJ's high school tape. Oh, really?

It's like people that are four-foot-nothing trying to tackle this giant. It's hilarious. Just go watch. Like watching Wilk Chamber. Yeah. How about Solomon Thomas, pass rusher from Stanford? He's probably going to go, I mean, a lot of people are saying he's going to go second overall to the 49ers. He lived in Australia for five years when he was younger.

and if his dad wasn't transferred to the U.S. because of work, he wouldn't have even played football. Wow. So he's like... He'd be playing Aussie rules. Exactly. He was a big swimmer. You can make some money playing Aussie rules, we found out.

Really? From that, who is the... No, I can't even remember his name any. They're going to be mad again. The Hayne plane? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, he wasn't making as much as an NFL superstar,

but he was making in the multiple millions of dollars. And he was a national hero. You can't put a price on that. That's true. Solomon Thomas, also a huge fan of Beyonce, and he said seeing Beyonce in concert was one of the best experiences of his life. So I'm just wondering where the draft

and the Beyonce concert will stack up against each other. Well, this one's outside. Yeah. Beyonce concert outside? Well, I think it was at Levi Stadium. So outside as well. That's going to be tough. There's not nearly as much risk

with an outdoor concert at Levi's. stadium as there is with Philadelphia. I don't know if being a Beyonce fan is quite at the level of draft facts. Well, Greg, you don't know. I feel like not being a Beyonce fan. Gee, taking shots at Colleen Segment, which is sponsored by Hyundai. Hyundai. It's driven by Hyundai, actually.

Oh, yeah. So, okay. One last one. One more. Okay. Tack McKinley, UCLA pass rusher. So Tack was at the point where he was a point where he was a for jobs at McDonald's and Taco Bell,

and he was basically giving up on football. He had accepted a scholarship to Cal, but he didn't qualify academically, so he ended up at community college. Now, TAC was super close with his grandma, like took care of her. They hung out from the time he was younger. This was like his best friend.

Exactly. They didn't come from a lot. They didn't have a lot to help pay the rent. she would collect recycling cans like it was it was a dire situation so he promised his grandma that he would play division one football and it just wasn't working out and he was really trying to make it work at community college so then he could go on to another college and he was just really down on himself so finally an assistant coach at UCLA who had recruited him went through his transcripts and found out that discovered that he wasn't credited for two

summer classes that he had taken when he was in high school. So they had to get various letters from principals and teachers and get his actual grade books to prove to the NCAA. And finally, it worked out. And he was able to go to UCLA, fulfill his promise to his grandma. And now he's going to be drafted probably first round. So a nice little ending. Gives me, see, this is good.

Gives me someone a root for it. We know a lot about them now. I'm also rooting for this next edition of Odds and Ends song. Oh, yeah. So that was draft acts driven by Hyundai. Everybody's favorite. Odds and ends. Odds and ends.

Hey, everybody, tell your friends, because the time has come for odds and ends. I don't know. The end is just not ever working. It's always there at the beginning. You got in super early. I did, and I thought it was going to work. How about this?

Like time is coming. for odds to end. Oh. Greg, you should be a writer. Okay, I'm excited for this next section. Yeah, I am too. Yeah. This is much cooler than odds and ends.

That's why Patrick Claibon's driving it. Well, much like this music. You know what that music means? You know what that means? For an artist, but this music isn't quite the artist that we want it to be. So it's kind of like, it's like, wait, is this, is this trash?

And that's what you have to ask yourself when you're watching Twitter conversation or you're reading an article. Is this trash? Put it through the filter. So, yeah, people that don't know, Claibon is been named by Dave Damasek in the building, a Ams takesman.

He kind of, he looks at the hot takes out there and he lets them know which are, acceptable, which are not. It's generally done on Twitter. I appreciate Claibon's role in doing this. He determines what are the acceptable takes, which are not. And so we thought we'd kind of set up a game for it. You're like a gatekeeper.

What I want to do is because I know I hate a lot of this stuff, but I wanted to see how you guys felt about it. And so on Twitter, you know we have a process. You look at a tweet and you'd make a decision. Am I going to retweet this? Am I going to block this person? Or am I going to unfollow this person? Okay.

So it's like a block-mock retweet, kind of like the game with the unsavory name that people play regarding members of the opposite sex. Human beings. Yes. And so I've just. What is that game? I want to make love to Greg. That's actually what the name of the game should be. And so I asked the great people on Twitter.com to give me the worst draft takes that they've seen through this draft season.

Oh, wow. I've got a few of them, and I'm just going to read some of these takes out. and I want to ask you guys if you would block this person and mock them. Would you unfollow them? I love this. I'm already annoyed at everything and everybody, so I'm ready for this. I love how Claibon and Colleen come so prepared. All right, so much more than us.

The first trash tweet, or maybe, I don't know, you guys tell me if these takes are trash. The Bears need guys with Midwestern football ethics, and McCaffrey healthy scratched himself from games. I don't trust the heart there. Greg. I think that's a block. I mean, that's a take so bad that not only, you know, you could think about unfollow, just get this person out of your life,

but something that heinous, something that outrageously stupid, I don't even want them sneaking into my timeline if someone else retweets them. I wrote this phrase down. Who was that? We need to call that out. Do we know who that is?

Names have been scrubbed. Actually, no, I sent this email to Sydney last night, and I didn't include the names on there. So I'd have to go back and look it up. I don't feel like it because these people suck. I think the dissonance for me here is that ethics has no place in this sentence. With Midwestern football, ethics is not a, it doesn't describe that in any, like, it doesn't fit together. I understand Midwestern football like I grew up. It's not played as fast as Southern football or Western football.

It's more run-heavy. You're playing on natural grass a lot. I get that there's a certain. level of football that's different, but ethics has no place in it. I agree with Greg. You got a, you got a block. I feel like that's kind of a mockable tweet. I mean, there's so many levels and layers to it.

And I feel like what's the ending with something with heart? Don't trust the heart. Don't trust the heart. Can we talk about that? What's the, what is like the scale of trust for somebody's heart that you don't even know and that has nothing? What? What does that even mean?

mean. I'm so annoyed by these stupid scouting terms and these people that talk about, oh, he's a football player or, oh, he doesn't have, what does that mean? He doesn't have heart or I'm done. I'm done with heart takes. I'm so glad that you guys are working. It's like Kadeem Kerry and Jeremy Langford, they're good Midwestern ethics for this guy. Forget it. Can't have him on the team. The Supreme. Get your act together, bro. Your track. Just the supreme level of confidence you would have to have in yourself to think that from thousands of miles away, you could judge another one's heart. Yeah.

It's amazing. So we're all three block there. We'll go to the second one. Winning teams don't draft a wide receiver in round one. Oh, God. That is block. That's blockable. Really?

Winning teams don't draft a wide receiver? Oh, come on. That's like the most broad, vague, lazy tweet. don't even bother tweeting. What you got, Greg? Yeah, I would just unfollow. I mean, that person, I don't even want them to know like how much they annoyed me, but just get them out of my life.

I mean, I would, you could easily just respond with, you know, the Atlanta Falc. I don't know. You could respond with a million different teams that drafted wide receivers in the first round and did just fine, including the Atlanta Falcons who traded up. Bengals won. Bengals made the playoffs every year of the first five years of AJ Green's career, didn't they?

Right. I think you got to go blocked. Yes. Two for two. Here's one that's pretty singeing. I wouldn't take Joe Mixen in the first round, but I would take him immediately in the second round. Oh, my God, no, stop it, stop it, not on.

Actual thing said by a human. That one, I think that was on ESPN, was it not? I believe so. Oh, good for you. You're not going to take him in the first round, and you're going to wait 32 picks. Great, great for you. You're such a wonderful person.

This is the one instance so far in the podcast where I wish Sessler was here to go off on the white nights of Twitter. People who would never take a stand on anything in real life. But if you get them on Twitter, they're taking stands. This is like a half stand. Right. This is... Block! What does it mean?

What does it mean? If PR is the only problem, then you saying PR is the only problem is a bigger problem than actual PR. Thank you. Right. plus what's the difference between it gets to another thing which annoys me which i think is part of it which is people get so worked up about like he's a he's a second round pick he's like he's a borderline second or third round pick i've always had like like first of all you don't know how you're bored like if you're a team you don't know how guys are going to fall or anything like what is the difference

between the 22nd pick and the 35th pick to a certain team like i don't know just all that's People get it into their head that, like, guys are, well, no, he's a first. He's an early first, but he's not a, you know, obviously. Definitely a third rounder. Who was calling Dak Prescott a first rounder? It's that rigid thing. You see it in fantasy, too, that all of the best experts in the field have to agree on who's the first and second picks. God forbid you take David Johnson first, when everybody else has him going, he's more of a fifth or sixth pick than a first bit.

The cognitive, the cognitive dissonance that is insane about is we have. Every single year of proof that all of these picks will be totally jumbled. Like the one thing we know about the draft is that the picks, like there's going to be great picks late. Like no one knows what they're talking about. That's the one thing we know. And yet we always like talk ahead of it like we do know what we're talking about. All right. And I'll finish it up with one of my favorite genres is the draft expert that obviously makes up quotes from scouts.

Oh, no. Wait, this is your last one. I thought you had a few. We've got some, but for the interest of the time. Wait, so you think that people employed by respectable... No. Okay. These are just draft experts. One of his tweets that I saw indicated that a scout drunk texted him, and so that gave him a little insight.

This one says, Oh, my God. NFC scout text to me one second ago. Yes, would care about bad Wonderlich score. If a quarterback scored a 15, we would pass. Yeah, that's just, like, kind of more of an annoying tweet. Like, I, I hate the Wonderlic in general. I hate, like, the grade shaming of it.

And also, I hate the humble brag of that guy. Like, oh, yeah, well, one second ago. One second ago. And then I just immediately dashed off this tweet to you. That's a good point to you. One second ago. Really? That might be blockworthy.

I was going to just unfollow, but now I'm going to block them for the one. second. I'm sort of fascinated here that you are convinced that this is a made-up quote. Well, look, I obviously have a bias, and I'm pretty strong about these things. I did see in his time of the wonder like. He called somebody triggered and maybe insinuated somebody else was a snowflake because they didn't like his tweets. And so I'm leaning towards, yes, this person is making this up. Dan Marino didn't get a 15 for what it's worth.

I think most standardized intelligence tests are pretty much. much useless and it's pseudoscience and it belongs nowhere in the 21st century. But I agree with Colleen. Thank you for flushing that out. The one second ago is blockable. Yeah. No. Who cares?

You're not that important. Great. Thanks for the important details. Yeah. Let's do a speed round of the ones you got left. All right. Going through like trying to cover all. They're all going to be blocked.

Cover all the genres. Ryan Ramzick took that year off of football after high school. You have to wonder if he really loves football. Blocked. Blocked. Deshawn Kaiser will succeed in a small market. If he goes to a bigger market, he won't be focused enough on being a quarterback. Oh, my God, block.

And then chatter, colon. Yeah, because being focused on a quarterback. Like, you can't become a star in Carolina. Chatter, colon. Ruben Foster, next, Rolando McLean, question mark. Yeah, I'm done with that one. I'm going to like that. trying to mix it up

unfollow and mute they play the same position went to the same school they could be the same exact human being I think at this point in by this point in April I have unfollowed almost every draft Nick anyway

do you even follow anybody anymore I follow like 900 people but I like it gets the world the internet is lousy with draft analysts this time of year whether you are an

amateur draft analyst, a professional draft analyst. You've watched two games of a player, so everybody needs your opinion on it. I just, enough. None of it means anything until a draft actually happens. And there's enough quality draft analysts and people who actually watch film and go through things and have discussions about actual. There's enough for you to follow that you don't have to lean into these takes men. All right, so that's it for trash takes.

Yes. I kind of want to just hear that song one more time. But, yeah, there we go. Playbond's trash takes I feel like that needs a sponsor We need to bring this segment back in the future For a peek behind the curtain We considered talking about

Levyon Bell's terrible rap song And this is the song we were going to play Instead of playing Levyon Bell's terrible rap song I feel like this is probably better Yeah, it wouldn't take much I've heard worst athlete rap songs Than Levy on Bell's though It actually was

It wasn't that embarrassed I mean, it was just sort of boring. Really? God, that's like the worst, the worst thing you could probably say about a rap song ever. That's true. Or a song in general. Other athlete rap songs were sort of more obviously embarrassing. This was just sort of, like a book on tape.

Bad, bad rap song. Sorry. Okay, we got one last game. A lot of games. So many games. This one is called, Who Said It? All right. So I have some quotes here.

And I'm going to throw them out to you guys. And we have to guess. Yes. Yeah. You sort of did this on Twitter the other day. I did it. Yeah. Oh, it was a Tom Savage quote.

Okay, so here's the first one. I just felt like the league and that path wasn't for me. I just knew that I didn't want to waste for me my younger years doing something that I didn't want to do. That was kind of my viewpoint on the situation. I think I know this just because. Yeah, we got a spoiler. I know. Damn it.

I wrote his retirement post for Roder World back in 2010. Oh, there we go. Glenn coffee, right? Ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah, former 49ers running back who left. I don't want to diminish why he left, but he did say because Christ told him to. Football wasn't that important in his life.

But he also said that he criticized professional football players for making football such an important part of life when there's so much out there. And more like making money so much a part of your life. I believe he... I respect that. He pursued initially... He was an Army ring.

A life in the church, actually, for a little while. And then he ended up going into the Army after that. Wow. So now he's making a comeback. This would be like Tim Hightower to the 10th degree. If he made a comeback after, what, seven years away? Yeah, it's a running back. He'd be about 30 years old now.

I mean, it does not help him that he did not light up the NFL in the one year. In fact, he struggled hard. He was going to be Frank Gore's backup. but I think he couldn't even get that role kind of locked down. I think it was Anthony Dixon. I can't believe. Wow. It was like 2.5.

Yeah. I'm looking at the stats now, 2.7 yards per 10 yards per carry is rookie. So that's going to hurt his chances, but people always give him a shot. Look, if Marshawn Lynch doesn't work out, maybe he ends up in Oakland. The Oakland Raiders, a wonderful football team. A lot of. Oh. That's right.

That's your fallback scenario? A lot of Crimson Todd players on the pod today. My wife will love this. You got to get some Troy Trots. That was really well done, Colleen. Thank you. All right. How about this one?

I would definitely prefer to be at the White House. But, you know, when you don't go to the White House, you have to go to the dungeon. Until we're back at the White House, I'll be in the dungeon. The two sounds similar to me at the moment. I don't know. That sounds like James Harrison. I'm. It sounds like.

like to me it's a member of the Atlanta Falcons. You guys are close. Maybe I'm crazy. This person is, they're using White House as a euphemism for the Super Bowl. Yes. For winning the Super Bowl. Right. That's why the Falcons to me made some sense.

So I'll say Dan Quinn. Okay. You guys are all close. Although he would not speak like the dungeon. T.J. Ward. Ah, Bronco. Yeah. He wants to get back to the Promise Land.

Uh-huh. So he's saying that 2017 reminds me of the Broncos Super Bowl year. That was from that story And that he's just been working out And grinding and blessed And doing all the things, all the hashtags But yeah, I guess he's been working out in a dungeon Maurice Jones-Jew's cousin

Seen successive Oh really? One fact. Okay There's a fun fact for you And finally one more to round out the whole group I'm at a position Where it's not the first time

It won't be the last time When you're able to have sauce When you're dripping goo and for you not to understand that, then you're already out the loop. Everybody can't do it, and that's what I pride myself on being able to do. Drip in with goo.

This one's kind of easy. Somebody who sees themselves having a lot of swag goo. That would be Cameron Jurel Newton. Oh, nice. Good job. Yeah, so he said this about, I guess, when everybody was giving him heat, about his Coachella outfit.

I got that one because I know that the highest eye roll to work, The word ratio is usually Cam Newton when I see a quote. A lot of people thought that was a romper initially that he was wearing. It did look like a romper. And I wouldn't have passed him to wear a romper. He would probably have some roppers. He'd pull it off, I'm sure. People wear some crazy stuff to Coachella.

Fashion is weird to me just in general, so I can't. Like, I don't. I don't know. Cam's like more into the high fashion route where it's like more of like runway look. Right. It's always a little. Like every day hair. Never forget the fox tail.

It's always like a little awkward for like a room full of like blue shirt, blue shirted guys and jeans to be like talking like critically of fashion. What's wrong with blue shirts and jeans. Well, that's not. I'm just. Watch out, Greg. Yeah, you've got a nice plaid on. You've got a little bit of a West.

Take that paramo. You've got a little bit of a West. It's in your face. Style. I have like negative. Negative style in this room off. One of my favorite shirts. Wes right now is dripping goo.

It sounds so gross. I don't know. Isolate that and save it. You're right, though. Cam kind of pulls these things off. Like, he, it's more of an, you know, he does a lot in the post game that people think are ridiculous, but, like, he does him.

I mean, it helps to be six foot five built like an Adonis and have a natural confidence and swag about yourself. And be good-looking. He's a good-looking guy that helps. I mean, Adonis, that's good-looking. It all works out for Cam. It's his world. out for him on the field this year.

He should probably come up with a new dance to celebrate it. Ooh, God. Like, sure, it's manufactured ahead of time, no. You wouldn't want any spontaneity in your celebration. It should be a sponsor. Yeah. His dances should be sponsored. Mr. F.

We've got to get Mr. F to sponsor Cam. I don't know if Mr. F would do that. Otherwise, we end up with like the Dan and Oikos' Triple Zero dance. I was surprised that there's no Miandis ad today. Oh, during the video show, there is. Oh, okay. I thought for sure I was going to have to talk about meandis. Yeah.

Now Sydney is going to have to edit that out as a podcast. Oh, cool. Okay. Sorry, Sid. For making it, making it hard. All right. Okay, so that wraps up the show, everybody. We jammed a lot of show into that show.

A lot of games. There's just like this show is dripping with show. A lot of draft information. We might be back on Tuesday. You know, sometimes in life, You just have to see what happens. It would kind of be a Tuesday evening release. They call that podcast, play it by ear.

But we might not, you know, because there's other things that are out of our control, perhaps. Anytime somebody starts something with sometimes in life, you know, you're just kind of justifying what comes next. I like it. Yeah. We will definitely be back, though, Thursday night after, you know, if we're not here on Tuesday, we'll be back for the first round of the draft. You'll be, Colleen. I'll be there. In Philadelphia, but we'll be up here in the lab talking about all the first round picks.

Ooh, I can't wait. Be safe. And I don't mean the flight. I mean outdoors at the draft. Be safe. Yeah, I know. I mean, I guess I should bring an umbrella maybe, a poncho. Pancho, definitely.

Definitely something that has a hood. Thermal blanket. Mace. Philly's safe. I'm just kidding. Pepper spray. All right, everybody. Great show, great stuff.

Claibon. That was awesome. Trash takes. Thanks for bringing it today. Enjoy Malcolm, your newborn. Yes. Congratulations. See if I can catch the end of the appointment.

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