NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Unsolved Mysteries

Episode Date: June 16, 2017

A room filled with some heroes – Dan Hanzus, Colleen Wolfe, Marc Sessler & Gregg Rosenthal – recap all the latest news from around the NFL including a Myles Garrett injury update, Saints tackle Terron Armstead’s upcoming surgery, and the Rams trade of Greg Robinson to the Lions. NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo then joins ATN to give the latest update surrounding the heated kicker battle in Tampa Bay. The heroes wrap the show by diving into some of the offseason’s darkest unsolved mysteries including the running back situation in Seattle and Colin Kaepernick’s future in the NFL.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What's up, team? Ho! That's a different open for you today. Oh, that was mixing it up? I messed with the cadence a little bit. Yeah. And it was a test actually to see if you guys now we are entering the dark period of the NFL calendar

are you still sharp? Or are you kicking your legs up and not paying attention, gold stars for everybody. That's great. Thanks. Thanks, Skip. I mean, the managing doesn't stop on the softball field. I kind of would like the managing to stop after our team blew a 10-2 lead. What?

I'm not talking about that. And a walk-off 11-10 loss for the shield, which dropped us to 4-4. Very disappointing. I will be making some moves. I will be making some changes. This is good. It's actually like when you bench a quarterback, but you wait until your bye-weeks coming up, so you give the guy coming in two weeks.

weeks to get up to speed with the offense and get comfortable. We have our buy coming up, our final buy of the season, and there will be changes in the lineup. Are you going to announce them here on the pod? No, out of respect for the people involved, they want to have some private conversations. Theric! And if you have any other questions about what's going on with the team, it's open. Well, can I ask you one?

Yeah. You blow a 10-2 lead. Yes. Again, I don't want you to name, necessarily name people. you can if you'd like but did anyone stand out as sort of a you know the scapegoat in that situation you know mark it is a it's a team game and and i don't think there was any one if you're looking for you're you're looking to hang goat horns i'm just asking i'm asking i mean you have to ask the question i understand that's part of your job it's part of my job

but we lost as a team just like we win as a team and we lost as a team anything else how's the mood in the clubhouse like with the record now i mean 500 it's rough um i don't think anybody really cares. Oh, that's a problem. That's a major problem. It's not true. I care. I know other people that care. Do you care?

I care very much. I care too much, in fact. But as long as the cooler is filled with beers, I think everyone else moves on pretty quickly in our team. I'll put it that way. Maybe that's part of the problem. Maybe we have a culture issue. Maybe that's part of this issue. Doesn't that start

with the manager? Last question. Well, last question, because there was a lot of I got time for one more guys. I got to go. A lot of celebration coming off of last last year's amazing championship victory, was the attitude coming into this season, the correct one? Well, the attitude? By the team.

Was the team, you know, humble enough, were they saying this is a new season when they're just coast? Do I believe that there might have been, we're suffering a little bit from the disease of Moore? A little bit, yes. There's been some issues I've had to put out a lot of fires this season. We're missing some people. The most important player for me is Chris,

Wesleying, who is not only my third baseman and my leading hitter last season, but also my Don Zimmer. He's my consigliary. So not having him to strategize, which that's been very difficult. So I think. And me too, not there. Connie Fox hasn't been there to order postmates beer orders from left center field. So there's been a lot of issues. Greg has been a, I don't even want to call a surprise, but Greg has been a nice player for us this season and has definitely helped us. Every game I've seen, Greg has been seriously solid. At the plate in the field. If people want to parse my words and try to spin this into me saying Greg's the problem, absolutely not.

Greg Rosenthal is doing a great job out there. And we'll get back on track. I'm going to show up to root for you guys next week. It's a bye week, though. I got you. Well done. All right. And that concludes the Shield Press conference.

Four and four. We are a game out of the playoffs with four to play. So we'll keep you updated there. Today's show is a good one. Many camps are over. As I said, this is the dark period. So what we're going to do is we're going to pose some unsolved mysteries. As we enter, the National Football League's dark.

I want to see you do the drums again for this. What a show. And Greg, you know, I don't like to, you know, get on you too much about the, you were born at age 32. But when you told this during our meeting before the show that you had never seen an episode of Unsolved Mysteries as a man born in 1979, which would have put you square in that world. That's a show for 50 and 60 year olds. I watched it. I'm watching MTV as a kid. Well, that's an opinion because I enjoyed it immensely at age like 15, 16 years old.

I'm just saying, I don't think that makes me look. that makes me old that I'm watching different shows other than unsolved mysteries. If you were like a teenager in the early 90s and you never saw a single episode of Unsolved Mysteries, that was like one of like a go-to, like, scary show for that generation. For years and years, I thought I was going to spontaneously combust after seeing one episode. Very stressful show. Yeah. So what, so are we working out of the theory? It was like 2001 when and Greg came out of the like cryogenic freeze at 32 years old. What was the year you think it happened?

Right before their Patriots first Super Bowl. You know, my mom listened to this podcast. She'll take offense that all of those tough years of child rearing. Being dismissed. That's not fair for her. That is not fair at all. Sorry, Deb. Deb Rosenthal, right?

Yeah, that's right. Shout out to Deb. All right. So, yes, we'll break down the Unsolved Mysteries. We're also going to get Mike Garifolo on the phone. He's been bouncing around mini camps this week, including a trip to Tampa. and you know how excited I am about what's going on in Tampa specifically in the special teams room.

Almost exclusively. Pretty much exclusively about what's going on in that special teams room. So we'll talk to Mike about the Bucks, about the special teams room, and about anything else that he came across this week. And then we're going to do some news and to do that. We've got to check behind the glass. There he is.

Again, he survived a trip to Mexico where 80,000 people wanted him underground, but here he is behind the glass. Yeah, still walking along, walking tall, fellas. And we don't want to paint all people of Mexico with the same brush. Like everyone wanted to kill Sully. I'm just going by the brush that Sully painted. He painted that.

No, I did not paint that. I quote said that it was a great time down to Mexico other than game day. But happy Friday, guys. Haven't done a Friday show in a long time. Yeah, it's fun to do a Friday show. And Sully's a good time guy. So when you have Sully behind the glass on a Friday morning, we're flying. So let's do some news.

Bye, fallation. What was that? I feel kind of bad because on the last show, you know, we called out certain phrases, you know, jargon, slang that we thought it definitely reached their expiration date. And it came to my attention over Twitter that on a recent Move the Sticks podcast, awesome sauce, had come out of your mouth, Sully. So it was not aimed, you were not the unidentified white male that I, right, that I overheard internet. Context, we were talking about Dreamlane barbecue and I said they have awesome sauce. That's different. That's way different.

The person that tweeted me had a, that's a context issue from the person that tweeted me. So you're not even on the radar. I know who that guy is. He's a loser. Wow. He does a podcast with one of our former mates, Kent Brown. Oh yes, yes For some reason he has a beef

Or an axe to grind with Oh, wait, he's the bartender He is not a loser He is a, that is a friend of the show I love this beef He's the bartender at public school Noelle Oh, cool, yeah

I met him before he's a nice guy Great guy So you kind of, you know Team Noel Now you're back on the radar I think he gave me free trade Wow, I like this heat It's fine

I like this heat Yeah, good canology there Yeah, conology All right Let's do some news Let's start with some not-so-pleasant news in New Aldens, where NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport reported that left tackle Taran Armstead is scheduled for surgery on Monday to repair a torn labrum.

Per Rappaport, Armstead suffered the injury on Wednesday and had tests on Thursday that confirmed a torn labrum. The timetable for Armstead's rehab is four to six months, which is the second time in two shows that we've heard that timetable, which, again, put you either in October or December. And this, Greg Rosenthal, is pretty much the worst-case scenario in these. You got a couple of minicamp practices

before you go dark and get ready for minicamp and you lose a key part of your team. I think he's the second best player on the Saints. Ooh. I mean, when he's at his best, he's one of the best left tackles in the league. They not only are losing, you know, their second best player,

they have their two best offensive linemen everyone's talking about Adrian Peterson's got to be running behind this great offensive line who played pretty well last year their two best offensive linemen Taran Armstead and Max Unger

are both coming off major injuries so they've had a rough off season in the world I can't think of another team that's taking two big injury hits like that it's a good thing that they drafted Ryan Ramcheck but like they're going to have to put him probably in the starting lineup right away

very very tough situation They have Andrews Pete, who's an option now for them, Caliph Barnes, but it's very grim situation all of a sudden. They didn't want him. They wanted to draft Ruben Foster. Maybe it'll work out, but he's coming off a serious injury, and he's played one year of competitive football at a high level. I mean, he was not a risky pick, but a guy you really hadn't seen much.

Played one year at Wisconsin. That's all they looked at. And it feels like a team that's going to need to score about 28 points a game to get above the eight win mark. And just to note, if you're curious what the Saints think of Toronto Armstead, he signed a five-year $65.25 million contract extension last off-season. Moving on, let's talk a little Rams. And Greg, listen, Greg, when you went poking in Thousand Oaken, what was it?

What? Greg pokes in Thousand Oaks. Is that what it was? You did make the note, and it was very precise. receptive, Greg Robinson, the 2014 number two overall pick of the Rams was not working with the first or second team, basically was just, was he being like a water jockey or something? He like had a couple snaps maybe with the second team, but no, he's watching the action. He's just standing there with a bunch of other offensive linemen watching.

All right, so connect the dots because a day later, the Rams traded. Jump it on your insider territory. I like that. Well, we don't have your drop yet. We're going to work on it, though, because you get a couple more like these. And you're... You can get your own job. You're in the club.

You're in the club. All leather, you know, dark liquor. Thank you very much here with NFL.com's Greg Rosenthal. I thought we were getting dense and dants. The Annabelle.com. The Annabelle.com. The NFL.com's Greg Rosenbaum. I mean, Greg pointed at Sully thinking he was going to get something else there, I think.

Yeah. That's all right. The ramps traded the... the offensive tackle to the Detroit Lions for a 2018 six-round pick rap sheet reported. ESPN first had the news. The Lions have a need at offensive tackle after their starter, Taylor Decker, had shoulder surgery. He is also out that mystical four to six months number. So there's a need for the Lions.

Mystical. And I just strange at that exact same timetable popped up two shows in a row for me. I don't know why. But my question. Mark Sessler is this. When the Rams next play, the Redskins, will they send out their 2018-6th round pick for the coin toss as a team captain?

It's getting harder to, you know, do ridiculous on-field processions like that for the Rams. Maybe they wheel out Jeff Fisher. I mean, it's funny. Like in a Hannibal Lecter thing with the mask and everything? I mean, it's like there are a lot of guilty parties here, and you look at what they got for that reds, Redskins trade and there's not much left

there really isn't what is there's there's Alec Ogletree and who's been a big time leader for that team so he is but there were eight players in that draft hall and two of them are still active at the on the flip side you know not to get it into the Redskins side but they also they equally botched it no one really won this the Rams I don't even think the Redskins botched it to be honest with you well they botched it with how they handled the player that they got the results the results it didn't work out but I thought they hit a home run

for three months it looked like it Oh, well. Anyway, any other thoughts on Greg Robinson? It does, I mean, and Colleen, maybe we're going to have some time to talk. We'll have to break down. You had a special night out with a certain NFL official connected to this story. Oh. Front office official. But let's just use that for now.

The whole family, yes. Including, of course, John Gonzalez. Who? John Ronald Gonzalez, born March 12, 1977 is an American sports writer who was married to NFL media broadcast. Colleen Wolfe, John, who's a Pisces resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. Is that one of the Unsolved Mysteries we're going to get to? One of them, maybe. This Greg was the theme song to Unsolved Mysteries.

I knew that. I know that. I know that. Posted by, Colleen. Oh, Stack. Robert Stack. Robert Stack. Robbins. I think Les Need has to be pleasantly surprised he got anything for Greg Robinson. That surprises me. I mean, this guy was a total bust.

They got a sixth round pickback. But let's not hand out any lollipops. No, no, I get it. 2014 second overall pick turns into a 2018 6th round pick. It's about as bad as it gets. Lions also picked up

Cyrus Quangio. I mean, they have a bad history. Remember Jason Smith? That's another all-time number two overall pick bus that the Rams took way back of the date. Michael Floyd's in more trouble. And, well, we'll see.

We'll see how it plays out. But as of the taping of this podcast, TMZ reported Friday that the Vikings wide receiver tested positive for alcohol this week. Floyd, as you may or may not be aware, is on house arrest and prohibited from consuming alcohol at all as part of his sentence for an extreme DUI stemming from an arrest in Arizona in December. Floyd was cut by the Cardinals after that arrest, landed with the Patriots, got a ring, then signed to the Vikings who want, they believe that he can make a big impact, but now we don't know what's going to happen. sheet reported that Floyd is due back in Scottsdale Court on June 26th to explain the flagged tests. And there was a report out there that Floyd stated, or a rap report reported, that he drank kombucha tea.

kombucha. kombucha tea, which explains why the sample contained alcohol. Mark, you are, your body's looking tight and right right now. A lot of people have pointed to a black magic slash voodoo diet that you're on. And kombucha is a major part of it, isn't it? Well, that is not true. We do have it in our refrigerator, though. Are you on a black magic diet?

Yes or no. I'm not, I'm experimenting with the Tom Brady diet. Black magic? No, thank you. I will say this. I love kombucha. Yeah, it's, I think in L.A., it is in the last year or two, it's got. It's gotten extremely popular.

I have in my hand right now some kombucha that was gifted to us by Jeremy Bergman, Bergo down on the desk. A great dude, a real mensch, a Jets fan too. Be careful. Be careful. Why? I shook it a little. Greg was shaking it. It was stupid.

Why? Is it carbonated? Yeah, you don't want to shake it. What is this thing? I've never had kombucha, but Bergo waving it around. Offered it to us. Yeah, do that thing where it's, you know, a nice slow. So I'm going to try it for the first time.

I have some cups here. Does anybody else want some? I'll try some. Yeah. I'll drink. So there is a low amount of alcohol in complete. I have some, yeah, I did a little digging out. I just spilled on our equipment.

Is that a problem? Yeah, if I'm not part of the show. Yeah, probably. It was fun. All right. Keep liquids away from them. This looks like, and this might seem a little crest. This looks like the urine that after like a long sleep and it's very dark.

Very, very. Dark peepy. A lot of. toxins coming out of you. Here's some dark. I mean, the alcohol. It looks like beer. It says less than 0.5%.

Are we drinking on the job? All right, I'm going to try it. First time ever, kombucha. It tastes good. It's delicious. Yeah. I like it. You're doing your best to get as many

swallowing sounds as you can get into this segment. I can tell. Gross. Ew, stop. This side of the table wants nothing to do with that. I use the cough button because I know Mark is a closet misophonian. I am too. I'm out in the open about it.

It's not a real thing. This is good, though. I like kombucha. Yeah. So it says the alcohol level here is 0.5%. Well, yes, you're right. Here's the thing. A site that I went to, the Phoenix DUI blog, I know we visited.

But listen to what they wrote. Well, you haven't been on that since that's Super Bowl a couple years ago. That's exactly right. It still exists. It's thriving. It says, why does this tea need to be regulated? It's basically saying that you can get a DUI from kombucha tea. It says, why does this tea need to be regulated as an alcoholic beverage?

Some bottles of kombucha contain more than 0.5%. Some of them do in the drink, which is the legal limit for a drink to be considered non-alcoholic. For this reason, some retail stores like Whole Foods have removed raw kombucha from their stores altogether. Now, if you're downing this stuff, hour and... after hour, which if you're Michael Floyd, if this is your excuse, you should also have done enough research to know that it has a little bit of juice to it. A lot of them have warnings at the top. Like at Whole Foods, they have warnings on the top that it contains a low percentage of alcohol.

And he also has a high, his blood alcohol level was reported at 0.055. I don't know. I mean, I'm not an expert. That's a lot of kombucha. I feel like you would have to drink a lot of kombucha. Well, so we'll see what happens. And they were at, it was at six in the morning. It was between 5.30 and 6.30 and 6.30 all night long. Connect those dots one more time.

He also denied the report, though, too. I mean, that's fair to point out. All jokes aside, it's sad for him. He was in house arrest for 96 days. He was 90 days into it. Oh, my God. And, you know, you worry that he's struggling. The problem, if you're not, if this is happening.

Or he's trying to get his probiotics. we'll see I don't know we'll see but that could be a problem for the major problem for the Vikings because if a judge is not happy with what he learns and not happy with the explanation he can get thrown back in jail well one one quickly unsolved mystery that we won't get to later

in the show is how long is Michael Floyd going to be suspended for because his suspension has not come down from the NFL that's been one of the hanging issues and I think they were waiting for this to wrap up right now there's a whole other right you would think this is not going to help him

keep that suspension at a low number. Moving on, Mark, we wondered if this would be a good test for Does God Hate the Browns? We can move away from Does God Hate Cleveland? No, does not hate Cleveland? Does he hate the Browns? Miles Garrett limps off from a minicamp practice with what was called a foot injury. However, Rapsheet reports that the left foot is reportedly fine.

Gary K Cabot of the plane dealer reported that Garrett was still at the team complex being evaluated after the past rusher limped off on Wednesday. No further details, but Coach Hugh Jackson said Wednesday that it is a, quote, good sign to see Garrett leave the field without a trainer. Mark, I know you are as plugged in as anybody on what's going on around the Browns. Any other juice around this situation? Well, right before we got up here, someone tweeted a photo from Hopkins International Airport in Cleveland of Miles Garrett leaving town. but in a walking boot. So maybe he, in general, he will be fine by camp, but there's something going on here.

Yeah, that is something as a doctor, I can tell you. No, but I can say that that is used as a precautionary measure as much as it is for something serious. So that doesn't necessarily tell you any. The Browns haven't said anything. Moving on, the Colts. Oh, not again. Kristen Michael, who was signed by the Colts recently,

is now being placed on injured reserve. And, you know, I think that this is something... Hold on. What? Vito Powers activated. Whoa. Oh, my God. I'm deep six in this story.

Do you care? You don't have to give an explanation. I got a plane to catch to get out of here. I don't have time to talk Kristen Michael for the 18th time. He's out. I'm with you. Moving on. I love that, Vito.

Here's something that I will never veto because I wrote about it on the end. around yesterday morning, Bucks Camp came to a close in the most wonderful way possible. It came down to this. Now, paint this picture. And Colleen, I just got to let you know. I know you've given me a little bit of a hard time about...

I would never give you a hard time. Yeah, just a little bit, though, about one of the great, one of the great battles that we're seeing unfurl ever in an NFL off season. Aguio. Folk. It makes Mayweather McGregor look like a landfill of baby puke. Looks like that guy got into the kombucha.

Anyway, so, as we know, quick refresher. And I have the whole thing written up on the end around if you're not caught up. But, Aguio v. Folk, Nick Folk, for the job in Tampa. and after a shaky OTA's performance by Aguayo when he yacked it on those narrow goal posts, he came back this week, and we talked about it on Wednesday's show. He had a nice showing in the earlier practice this week, and then, in fact, Dirk Cudder even went as far as to say

that he had won that day of practice, which was a little weird, I thought. But then, to end minicamp and send the bucks into their summer vacation, what does Dirk do? Master Motivator that he is. He sends those two kickers out to the middle of the field by themselves. And they have to kick, they have to hit two kicks, both from, I believe it was, let me get the exact distance here.

So much pressure. From 44 and 52. And they have to, four in a row to end minicamp a half hour early. They both drill them. All four. And that's why, and I know this. because Mike Garifolo of NFL media was there in Tampa. He saw, and then this is the, I'm using the words right from Mike Garifolo.

Both men, quote, swarmed by teammates. You tell me this is not a big storyline in and around that building. Mike, welcome to the Around the NFL podcast. Yeah, is it too late to take that word swarmed back? Because I feel like I now vaulted a rather ordinary experience into friggin' into frigging Rudy getting carried off the field. Was there gatorade involved? There was no gatorade.

But this has to be a best case scenario. Like, you could have been sent out to any one of the 32 teams, and it just happened to be that you're sent out to the epicenter of what's happening in the NFL on Thursday. I mean, I knew why I was there, and it was for Roberto Aguio versus Nick Folk. I mean, I know. Damn right.

I don't know, dummy. And listen. If there are haters on Twitter that say, why are we talking about this? It's June. You know what? Stick it. Because, frankly, I care about kicking competitions, especially when it's a guy like Nick Falk and not just,

look, usually the second kicker guy in a camp is a guy that's just like getting some kicks in. He's going to get some tape in the preseason. And then maybe he turns into Brandon McManus. Maybe he gets cut and then he becomes a real kicker in the league. But in this case, he got Nick Falk. So it's a guy that's made big kicks in his career before. It's the folk hero. See, Rex Ryan comes at a podium after the game

and suggests folk hero is the headline for the tabloids, and, you know, he takes off. So it's a real thing, and I don't care what anybody says. It's a real thing, and you know what? If you're fired up about it, Dan Hand, do some fired up about it. Thank you, Mike. And I should also say a real thing is that Mike Garifolo is on the underpants line sponsored by meundies.

Oh. Mike, are you wearing me undies right now? No, I'm wearing my undies. Okay. But that's only because you guys haven't sent me any yet. So that's the only reason why. I just got my first pair.

Yeah. If you guys said, it's true story. Frankly, if you guys send them to me, I'll do them in only me undies. I'll do these. We can do that. They're very soft. You're going to like them.

So Mike, so you, any other, I know that I only care about what you just talked about when it comes to Bucks camp. But they're also a very buzzy team across the NFL in this room in our podcast. Any other takeaways from your time in Tampa? And then we just wanted to hit on some other places you were this week. But any other takeaways from Tampa? Yeah. Listen, there's, I went to Jacksonville and then I went to Tampa. And in Jacksonville, we can get to them in a second. But Jacksonville was all about kind of tamping down expectations, whereas in Tampa, it was really about embracing them. And, and,

at least the players were. I mean, the coaches and everybody else will always be more cautious, but I talk to Gerald McCoy about it after practice and he said, you know, when the team goes out and signs guys over the last two years like J.R. Sweezy and now Deshawn Jackson and they make the addition

that they've made, it's a signal to guys that have been around for a while, members of the Corps, like McCoy and maybe LaVante David and a couple other guys that, you know, now it's time. I mean, that's the way McCoy put it to me. Yeah, it's time. It's not just, okay, we're building something.

It's been built, and now what are we going to do with it? And James Winston and Cameron Bray, we're having a little catch at the end of practice after everybody else left the field. They're working on corner routes. Matter of fact, if you follow me on Snapchat, you saw this, Brayt actually threw some to James. I don't know why they did that. It wasn't a trick play.

They just felt like doing it. But then it went back to James throwing them to Cameron Brate, and he catches the last one. They're walking off the field, and James says, All right, and let's go win the Super Bowl. These guys are embracing the thought of them being a promising team in a very tough division, I might add. Mike, Frank.

There's going to be, hold on, there's going to be a team on paper in the NFD South that look great that it's going to have a sub-500 record just because you can't possibly have everybody be competitive. Well, you kind of forget how long it's been since, I mean, these are heady expectations to have when your team hasn't won a single playoff game since they won the Super Bowl. That's 15 years.

They haven't been to the playoffs in a decade. So they're up there on the list of, you know, the longest droughts of not even making the playoffs. That's a big jump. You buying into this? Sorry, go ahead, Mike. They've got all the pieces and they feel like Winston is really, you know, stepping into his own.

It's, you know, you always hear, oh, a guy's been the same way, or he's right now, he's in the same way the whole time he's been here. And to an extent that that's true with Winston because you remember him being, that vocal guy, he's always a vocal guy, he's at the door of rookie camp when he's a rookie greeting all the other rookies coming in. You're saying, oh, this guy's going to be a leader right away. So he still acts the same way, and he's still very vocal, but now it carries a little more weight because he's actually put some things together on the field. He's been there for a while, and the longer you're in a place and you're a quarterback, a team official

there said to me yesterday, he is the unquestioned leader of the team right now, and nobody's questioning it, even the Gerald McCoys of the world who have been around longer will look at and say, no, no, that's our leader right there. So that's why they feel pretty good. I should, one of the tidbit, I forgot to work this in on the air yesterday. During the down period, before official offseason workouts began, Dirk Cutter goes down to the office. It was before 6 a.m. And he goes down in the lobby of the facility. And James was there reading a book about leadership. And he went up to Jason Light's office and told him, you're not going to I believe. He's down there because he just wanted to be here. This is where he works.

He doesn't care that it's not official workout. He's going to work out in his own later, but he's here before 6 a.m. reading a book about leadership. So that's why they're excited about this guy. Kind of like that. Kind of like that. Hey, you were in Jacksonville, too, right, Mike? I was. And every time I mentioned to, I sat and talked with Doug Maran, I sat and talked with Dave Caldwell, and every time I kind of mentioned about how talented they are, they reminded me that they haven't played a game yet this year. So they're tired of hearing things like how much talent they have, how much potential that this is the Jaguar's year.

They're tired of hearing it because they haven't gone out and done it. And they are getting a direct approach from their head coach now. Gus Bradley was a very positive guy, not that Doug Marone is a positive guy, but Doug Moron is telling these guys, you know, look, they're talking about it and there's actually doing it. We've got to go out and do it. And in addition to that, Tom Coughlin's presence, along with Morone, has led to some pretty intense practices for these guys.

I've mentioned it in our reporter's notebook, which is online right now. You can go read on NFL.com. Nice plug. I was leaving the facility, we're getting ready to drive to Tampa, and this typical Florida thunderstorm, but for people who aren't from Florida, I mean, it looked like the world was going to end. And two guys, one guy comes out and says,

why could this not have happened when we were practicing earlier? and then the other guy comes down and he's like, please keep raining all the way through tomorrow's practice because as much as they can under the rules of the collective bargaining agreement, the Jaguars have pushed these guys to the limit and if they think this was bad,

wait until the pads come on in training camp. They are really setting a tone down there. Tom Coffin doesn't play. No, and neither does Marone. I like Gus Bradley a lot. I think he's a terrific defensive coach. I think if he becomes a head coach again, he'll probably have learned some mistakes from being a head coach.

He's not a hardline direct communicator sometimes, and I think that that was a downfall. Doug Moran is exactly the opposite of that, and he is directly and bluntly communicating with these guys. I mentioned this on the other day. He told Blake Bortle, if you continue to turn the ball over, you're not going to be our quarterback. Everything else we can work on, that is non-negotiable.

That was a direct quote from Doug Marone. So they are getting that tone set for them, verbally, physically, all kinds of stuff down there. Do you think that it's sustainable for Coughlin to be such a large mouthpiece in Jacksonville, along with Morone, that there's any sort of overlap there, or is it just working out great and everything's amazing in Jacksonville until the games begin? Well, games haven't been played yet. Games haven't been played yet, so I've got to temper anything.

But I did ask about that, and I talked to Dave Colwell about it. I talked to Marone about it. I only thought Kaufflin passing by briefly in the hallway. We had a little exchange, but Colwell, he was, he was up to, look, he said when this happened, he knew what's going to happen. He could embrace it or he can fight it, right? So he didn't really know Kaufflin that well, but he says that the two of them are really aligned in their philosophies and the way they look at things.

You might not know that because they've got two different personalities, and Coldwell's a bit laid back, and Kaufflin is very much not laid back. but the other thing is that Caldwell had a as a general manager of a team it's about more than just picking players and a lot of times you've got so many things on your plate and he said it's been really good for him

because a lot of these things are now falling on Cawfland and he's just another voice that he can bounce stuff off of so he's actually he said had Cawthon not been here there may have been some transactions that would have been different I don't want to speak in detail I believe he said don't go into detail when we talked about this

but there are some things that he did that he was able to bounce off Kaufflin and they talked things through and he said, you know, had I not had that, things wouldn't have gone the way that they did and he really believes that the team is better for it. Two more things real quick. First of all, now that we're entering the dark

period of the calendar for the NFL, is this, are you just going to be a barfly in Hoboken, just bouncing around the path bars, going a little bit uptown, just getting a little dirty? Well, we're a little late in this call. We had scheduled it earlier because we had a scheduling call with Dave

if you don't know who Dave is. He's a really powerful guy at NFL network and everybody fouled to Dave Chatton. Nobody ever talks back to him. Never. But he was talking to to Ian Rappaport and I and me. Ian Rappaport, if you don't know him, he's a very powerful man on the network as well. He has squashed some careers. That's true. About our schedule over the next month and just in case something happens. And just in case something happens and so I've got days where I've got to be on call and then I'm hosting Good Morning Football, not hosting, I don't want to say that,

I'm sitting in for Peter Schrager. You're kind of a big deal, Mike. A little bit of a Freudian slip there. I got a reel that back in now. I am occupying a chair on Good Morning Football on, I think it's Wednesday and Thursday. Wow. That's a big job, Trader's body double.

Well, would Schroger be concerned if you really excelled? Let's say you came in with excellent knowledge as we would expect, and you just really show chemistry, is Schrager suddenly on the hot seat in that operation? I mean, what are the chances I'm going to come with some of that stuff? Probably zero. Probably as good as me

just growing a full head of hair tomorrow. What about the idea of showing up in a romper? That will take you places on that show. A romper with some me undies underneath it. But listen, hold on, but I'm not going to be a bar fly

in either. because usually my wife drinks with me, and I would love to share some news with you guys. My wife is expected. Oh, wait, that's right. That's already been out at all. We went wide with that one. I had to check with Mike after the show

to make sure we weren't breaking anything. Yes, congratulations. Yes, congratulations. Thank you very much. And there's nothing worse. I told Mike and I talked about this at the media summit. I said, you know, don't go on the baby moon. Don't do anything like because it's not fun drinking

when your wife can't drink with you. and you're just sitting there. The pregnancy thing with boozing was kind of a bummer for both of us, not just her. They don't fit very well, those two things. Last thing. And they don't like it when they see you boozing in front of them.

No, of course not. You kind of feel like a jerk. Last thing. Robbie or Nick, who you got? Oh, Robbie. All right, we're on that kind of name with Robbie. I just, you know, he's got the second round pick, so unless he really, really falls apart,

I'm going to have to go Aguio Wow I feel it Look that was a pressure kick the other day Okay We're going to end practice a half an hour early I'm a little skeptical Like what if he had missed

Would they really have practice for another half hour These coaches they don't plan I mean maybe would have given them another kick And you make it No okay that one was good Yeah we're kidding I think dirt cutter was cut in practice short No matter what

But Guio didn't know that Folk didn't know that And so that was a good pressure kick. And you want to see him respond to pressure, and he did there. So I believe that that was the kick heard around the world that will begin Roberto Aguayo's quest to secure the job that should have been automatic for him, at least for a couple of years.

Score a vote for the kid. And a thank you to Mike Garifolo, at Mike Garifolo. And he mentioned his Snapchat account. Yeah, I just followed him. Definitely a deft mention there. Mike underscore Garifolo. Thank you very much, good sir. Enjoy what we hope is a very quiet, dark period for you.

Fingers crossed, boys and girls. All right, see you. There it is. A vote for the kid. Aguayo. Folk. The biggest cliffhanger since that one episode of Friends when Rachel went to meet Ross at the airport

after his work trip to China and was stunned to see Ross cuddling up to his new squeeze, Julie. What is wrong with you? You got to admit, though. Good parallel. Well, the parallel, you know, you can't take it away from me. It's a great parallel. And it is really, truly a great cliffhanger to go out of minicamp and towards training.

That's what you were like all you really wanted to record this morning. This entire podcast was just building up to that moment and everything after this, Dad won't even remember. And a shout out, shout out to Adam Rank. who was up here when I went to record this, and he reminded me that the woman's name was Julie. Rich to tell. Very rich. Friends, have you ever seen that show, Greg?

I had. No, I watched a lot early. You've heard of it. I had quit by that point, I believe in the program. That was like season two or three. Believing in the program. I love it. I gave it like a year and a half or two.

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I always thought everybody's house was haunted growing up. Mysteries how they make this kombucha so tasty. It is. Delicious. I have to say. A little slogan on the side. It's time for a better booch. We're all going to be drunk after this from kombucha.

We feel a little toasty right now. You're going to put some in your fridge, Dan. Will it be a part of the Hanzas family food? This looks like something that would be obnoxious. It's actually expensive. Yeah, it is. I have to say. Anyway, so here we are.

We're through OTAs. We are through mini-camps. Training camp starts right around a month from now. So we've tried to, as members of the football cognizente, figure out what's going on with these teams, getting a feel for teams and players and coaches and GMs. But we can't figure out everything. So that's why we're going to talk about now some

unsolved mysteries as we enter training camp. And Mark Sessler, get us going. I'm going to start in an obvious place, and I apologize for doing that, but quarterback is the reason for me that these mini camps and training camp leading up the season matter. It's the reason for the season. There you go. And I look at Cleveland, and where we were last year in Cleveland, Hugh Jackson was so on this Robert Griffin train that it seemed no matter what he was going to become the starter.

And right now you've got three quarterbacks in Cleveland, Deshaun Kaiser, Brock Osweiler, Cody Kessler, 4th, and Kevin Hogan, who's just there as a guy at this point. But they came out of yesterday's mini-camp saying there's literally zero pecking order. We have no idea who's going to be the starter. And I do believe in a way that it's not just lip service. There may be in-house people they like to see win it, but it is a true battle.

And it's concerning as it means you definitely don't have a number one. But it's a little bit different for me this time around the vibe of it than some of their previous battles with completely underwhelming characters involved. There's at least, like, Osweiler could be awful, but he's intriguing. Kaiser, I think, is intriguing. He's a rookie, and Kessler's sort of the safe guy that if you're starting with him, no one else really has shown. Rock Osweiler, intriguing?

I didn't not say and tell him. I just think he's like, I didn't even think he was going to be on the team at this point. I don't know, maybe with Hugh Jackson. Maybe he'll be a little different. Brock. Again, I don't think he's, I don't want him to be. He's the guy, he's this year's version of RG3 for me. I don't want him to be started.

It's a mystery because we don't know where the Browns are going to go. Real quick, around the room. Over under starts, Brock Osweiler. I'll set it at seven and a half. Mark. Under. Under. Oh, I can't believe it.

I think he'll be right in that. I think he's going to play about half the season. Really? Wow. I think Kaiser will. Well, you know what, actually no, because they have Kessler there. And if they do talk themselves into Brock starting the season and it predictably won't work out,

they'd probably bench him around the start of October or late September. Kessler would get his shot. And then they would probably, when they're like 2 and 7 or 3 and 6, maybe go to Kaiser to close the season. I could see that. It's a bad year for QB battles. I've written a column around this time, kind of updating the QB battles at this point in the offseason.

And I thought there's no point in doing it this year because Josh McCown and the Jets, I guess that's a battle. Who cares? But it seems like a farce. The Browns, it does seem wide open. I don't think you learned anything in the last few weeks. And I also don't think it has a huge impact on the NFL as a whole.

What's their ceiling? Six or seven wins in a really perfect world. Really, there's one battle that matters. 12 wins, maybe 12 wins. There's one battle that matters at all, and it's in Denver. And that's it. Right. Connie.

Well, this is a perfect segue because mine is also about quarterbacks, but it's more... Spooky. Can Bill O'Brien develop them? because we've heard it in the past. I guess that's a battle, too, I was wrong. He has this skill, and we just haven't really seen it yet. He's had a ton of middling quarterbacks that have rolled through there,

Brian Hoyer, Case Keenham, Fitzpatrick, Mallet, Savage, Weiden, T.J. Yates, Brock. but now he has Deshawn Watson there. So this could be a true test for him whether or not he actually does have the capability of developing a young quarterback, or is it just all hype with him working with Tom Brady, and the stuff that he was able to do at Penn State and it may be not translating to the NFL. They have wide receivers.

They just drafted to Anta Foreman and they have guys there that can help, plus a great defense. So I think that's an unsolved mystery that maybe we'll see. That's a good one. I like that. I think that's totally fair and there are detractors out there

who I think maybe get rubbed the wrong way about Bill O'Brien. Who point that out a little bit? Like, is this guy really know how to teach that well if his offense is so hard to learn? that you can't do it. The counter argument to that is look at Ryan Fitzpatrick and Brian Hoyer's numbers with him. I mean, Fitzpatrick had great numbers.

He had a really good season. Hoyer had pretty great numbers. Did they have like one of the best QBRs with him? They basically played about as well as they've played under Bill. Yeah. Greg, you're up next. It's very important when we get that music. I mean, it all hits.

I saw mystery is a looming and I don't want to get dark. But you would think that one of the biggest stars in the league being under investigation in a domestic abuse situation for more than a year would be a bigger story. And yet the Ezekiel Elliott investigation from the league is continuing. They recently got documents from the NFL PA. And that's just kind of been hanging out there. I don't want to blame anyone or anything for this, but you would think that this would be wrapped up one way, or another. And because it's not, I consider it something that's looming over this team.

And as part of that, I'll at least point out a mystery to me is they do have two new starters on their offensive line. So can Ezekiel Elliott be as good as dominant or get even better this year with two new starters, assuming he's not suspended? It's very fair. It is kind of just hanging there. And there's a little, an update comes out every few weeks. And it's not something like the update maybe you would expect was the, you know, the, you

You know, there's no, the NFL does not plan to do any discipline, blah, blah, blah. It's just lingering. There's a lot of like, well, this. The mystery. There's a lot of like under the radar. Well, this doesn't seem overly serious. And I, I would hesitate on that. If this investigation is still happening, haven't we gone through these situations enough that you should take them all serious?

It hasn't been a great off season for him with that and the shirt incident. With these investigations, is there like a in-house, like, detect a guy who's pounding the case like day after day? How to months and months, that's why it's a mystery. That's a mystery. How they solve the mystery is an unsolved mystery. I wish this was a video show because I couldn't remember the quote-unquote shirt incident.

So Colleen pantomime to what it was. I don't remember it out. A little pictonary. When he supposedly took hold. I thought I meant wearing the half shirt. No, that was a different shirt incident. Less salacious. And inappropriate, frankly.

Yeah. Mark. I would agree with you. I feel like we barely talked about the Cowboys this off season. Quiet for them, for the most part. Here's a, this is going to be, I'll start with one name and then I could fan it out to a few others. Robert Stack keeps on liking his grave. Wait, what was that?

Over and over again. Is RG3's career over? It's just over Is Robert Griffin the 3rd Who's obviously still unsigned Is his career over I mean should he go into broadcasting I don't know if he would be good at that

I'm super I got to say like I know It went very poorly in Cleveland But he's also beat up It wasn't like he was So bad that It wasn't that poorly Like in terms of just watching the play I saw a lot of quarterback

I saw some quarterbacks play worse than RG3 last year. End of his, end of the season, there was some progress. But I think it's like you sign up for RG3 and you're wondering if you can get more than three or four games out of him during a season at this point. And once quarterback start going down, RG3 is going to be on that short list. Unless we don't know what his agents telling teams that they even called about financials and what he wants.

But isn't it, it's, I guess because we've all been here since he was that superstar for you know three months as a rookie so it's still hard to kind of imagine that at age 27 or 28 he'd be completely out of football but perhaps remarkable and it's kind of not a story yeah that's what I was going to say more surprising is that nobody's even talking about it's almost like everyone has moved on from RG3 and maybe and maybe it's because everyone else is kind of on the same page that he just can't play anymore the injuries basically sapped what he had physically and he didn't maybe didn't have the other components but I guess that's it yeah he just peaked so early.

There are a couple other players. I think he's done. I don't think he's going to get a job. Over under, games active, RG3, one half. Under. Taking the under. He might have to go to the CFL. You want your quarterback on the roster by now, so I'll go under also.

Yeah. I think Kaepernick gets a job still. I don't think, you know, Revis, there's some other big name. Wait, is RG3 blackballed? I don't think he's blackballed. He's just. Greg, this is my segment. and I was going to bring up these other names.

Oh, okay. I was going to fan out. One of them was, one of them removes a mystery off one of my potential, so I'm going to cook up another one quick. Why don't I get out of the way then? Well, no, I think it's fine. I have another one. Yeah.

Okay. No, I was just going to throw out some names, notable guys. Decker will get a job, obviously. Ryan Clayty, Nick Mangold, DeAndre Levy, Brandon Flowers, Paul Krueger. Gary Bondish still has the job. Why's nobody giving me a call on the phone? Give me a ring.

He'll be fine. Somebody lose my black ball No black ball You are not Gary You are not Gary Because I'm British No Black ball my boy is British

Jay Ajay Okay I'm done I was going to mention Revis And I just I'll be interesting to see if he plays again out honestly Yeah

But One for me that I think is a little Longer Rangey Because I was thinking about Like mysteries Are typically around Something kind of dark And like the team

That brings up kind of the darkest energy for me right now. And it's not the Jets, honestly, because the Jets, there's clearly like a unified mind on what they're doing. They're seemingly on the same page. It keeps going to Chicago because...

Forget just the quarterback thing. That's going to get figured out one way or the other. But it still bugs me that if you're John Fox, you have to go to bed every night knowing that your front office basically iced you before the draft, kept you out in the dark,

and wouldn't let you talk because honestly the way it's been reported is they don't trust him not to go talk to others about what we're going to do we're going to trade up we're going to do x y and z that your coach is the coach of a team with all sorts of issues number one you have a gm that went and rogue and did his own thing and in some power structures that's fine that's not how i previously was fine on draft day when uh sunny did it in draft sure fictional you know and what happened what happened to that team we don't know that they don't exist after the end of that movie but the bears and

that Fox and Pace do have to coexist. And all the buzz coming out of there is negative, that they aren't on the same page. And when you look at these teams, you say, by November, what is the team where there could be a house cleaning, there could be major issues? Chicago's the one that sticks up for me. So it's not like it's a quarterback mystery,

a position thing that's going to be solved by training camp, but I just feel a lot of negative energy around the Chicago Bears. Are you trying to say that the unsolved mystery could be that John Fox takes out in time, Pace? or vice versa Like takes out in one way I'm just saying You went a little far

One of them is missing suddenly Do we have to get Frank Signetti on the case? That would literally show up On Sol Mysteries, the real show Frank Signetti, private eye Well, here's a mystery What happened to that guy? He landed somewhere, I believe

He's got the Giants, I believe Is he? It's exactly where he is. He went to the big apple to clean up the streets he um he oversaw the worst year of ely manning's career oh perfect thank you frank all right Connie okay why hasn't Eddie Lacey tried Beachbody yet that's sort of isn't he doing that he is doing it not a mystery he's doing Beachbody he's a paid consultant excellent success with it

this says I've torpedoed my own segment so Maybe by Mark Sessler. He has posted on social media that he's all about that beach body. He's made two-way in so far. Yeah, we could cut the music for this one because we, yeah. Solved it. I thought he's doing Beachbody? This would be like the equivalent on Unsolved Mysteries

and it was always the best part of the episode. At the end of it, it would go, update. Update. And then bang, they tell you, oh, this woman was found, her body was found in the swamp. Terrible. This is a little different, but yeah. Or the Virgin Mary that was on the dish towel was actually just mud. It was confirmed.

Right. The visage. You know, one of those things. Okay. All right. So, yeah, that's not going to work out. I was going to get into how the Seattle running backs are going to shake out. Just the depth chart in general.

That's a little bit on something. I think that's still a mystery. I was going to, that was mine. So I'm going to jump in here anyways. Go it. That was yours? That was mine, too. Go.

All right. So listen, they have a ton of depth. Obviously, they have Rawls. Oh, Collie just won a power play there with Greg. and I enjoyed it. I know. Look, Eddie Lacey, he's staying on target now with Beach Body, as he has been for a little while. They have Lacey and Rawls, which are basically both the same type of power runners. They have ProSites who can run routes like a wide receiver.

Alex Collins. They brought in Mike Davis for depth. They don't need depth at all. So I want to know how it's going to shake out, who's going to come out on top, and what the order is going to be there. I think it's been under the radar that Rawls. won a playoff game for them last year, that he was coming off two major injuries back to back when he was struggling earlier in the year.

He carried them to a playoff win. When was the last time we saw Eddie Lacey play as well as Thomas Rawls played in that game? Thomas Rawls reportedly flying around the field at OTAs. No one's mentioned the fact, okay, yeah, Eddie Lacey's on Beachbody. He's not playing football. He's still recovering from an ankle injury.

And he's often hurt. And I've always really liked Thomas Rawls as a player, and he's been talking like he's really motivated because they brought in Lacey. And I think he ends up being the guy to ride if you're taking him in fantasy football. Very fair. I also think they brought in Eddie Lacey because of doubts about both of the other backs they had. Yeah, he's been hurt. I get it.

I mean, if we're going to kill Eddie Lacey for being hurt, Thomas Ralls, most of his career has been an injury situation. So I think what's different is that if there was a previous regime that we were part of the Seahawks team, It was like, we're going to ride Marshaun Lynch as the 85% of the carries. It could be very different this year. It could look different. Eddie Lacey, for me, at least, the guy has put in effort. He seems like he does very much care about showing up in Seattle and reviving his career.

I think they've got an interesting backfield that could be quite dangerous. And finally, this one, Unsolved Mystery. It's connected to the Norland Saints and Sean Payton, the head coach. He had this to say on Wednesday after rookie cornerback Marshawn Lattimore had a very nice day in practice. And Sean Payton, when he spoke to the media, he wanted to show that he's up with the music. He made a couple plays today. Listen, I told him, you know, he's going to be like Kendrick Lamar. They're all going to get in line to go see him.

You know, and that's just how it is until that's how it is for a rookie corner. You know, so there'll be a long line waiting to test him, and he understands that. You know, that's part of that status. So here's the Unsolved Mystery. Who is the next hugely popular figure, celebrity that Sean Payton will use and dad speak to show that he's hip and can connect to the younger fellas? So much to choose from. I mean, that was such a stretch of analogy. Anyway, it didn't make sense.

Thank you. That was worse than my beef body comment. One of my favorite things about this article was Marshawn Lottimore saying, like, yeah, he's throwing that out a couple times to me. Oh, he's working it hard. He's working it hard, as you say. It's like he reached out to his sons or one of his kids and he's like, all right, who's like the big rapper right now. I know. And then he made sure to shoehorn it in just the show.

And I mean, sit down, Sean Payton. Be humble. I do like Mike Triplett of ESPN. This is where I got that quote from and then Sully did a nice job pulling it up. But this is how the quote was set up by triplet on ESPN.com. Then Sean Payton topped off the session with his best one-liner of the off-season to date, flashing his ability to continue adapting his message to younger players. Oh, God.

Well, I think he still has some way to go. Can I just say it's inside his DNA? Okay. I caught your humble. I caught your humble. We see you. We see Salome. We didn't try to answer your question.

anybody uh yeah you name it who will be wc fields um i mean stuff to step up i don't think young thug is gonna get yeah who's the guy that did broccoli last year he's got to go a little bit of a little yaddy little bit of a different industry little yaddy yeah his new one's out you know check it out why another hip i needs to be someone a little from another industry to show he's versatile he's He understands all aspects of... Lord. Culture. Yeah. I mean, maybe some type of pun,

like whoever the new left tackle is going to be. It's like, this kid's got a real chance. The rapper. No. It didn't even make sense. People aren't coming up to Kendrick Lamar to test. It was labored. I'll give you that.

I think it just made the cutoff for making sense, but it doesn't mean it was a good whip. Maybe it was like one of those things where someone was like, hey, if you work this in, I'll buy you a sandwich. And he's like, I worked it in. All right. Those were the unsolved mysteries that we are interested in as we head into the dark period.

Now, a little housekeeping. We will be back. Back to the two-show schedule now up until the start of training camp. So you'll probably hear from us again on Tuesday. And so make sure you tune. in for that and and mark you have a great time on your vacation yeah thank you and i do want to point out that i noticed it it did it did catch my eye that during our phoneer with mike garrifolo during the phoneer you tweeted out the new heat and light podcast is out i did i was during the

phone sitting on my phone i really i forgot it was sitting on my phone on the the heat and light podcast you and Connor or, of course, your side project. It's a little disrespectful to Mike. Mike got shorted a little bit there. I'm just going to say. You know, Greg, of all people, to try to bring up that as an issue. I have liberally retweeted Dan's podcast.

I have appeared on Dan's podcast on an upcoming show. Spoiler, so I think that it's fair to support each other's project. Wait a second. That is not what I was saying. I was about mine. I was talking about Mike. Oh, and Greg's trying to tear down my relationship with Mike Garifolo. The perfect way to end the show. Mike and I are fine. Mike and I are doing great.

Dan couldn't be happier right now. But no, that is my way of saying, check it out. What is this week's episode about, Mark? It is about, I would say, I would put it under the term of haunted house, a haunt, like a very concerning true haunting. So, an app song. There you go. The haunted house. RJBP

Get back on the saddle Throwback pod as well You know The killer is hot fuss We broke down Bob Castro and I this week Check that out Colleen your side project

Coming out soon Marital Blitz got squashed So Did it really? Yep Cancelled Cancelled But you've been on Czech a lot lately

I have been A lot Uh oh Like a lot Lately Is this thing Trying to call that a side project Well

I'm just trying to fill some time Oh no Of course, Colleen. But Colleen's going to be with us a lot this summer, so we're going to continue to work together and enjoy ourselves because we've got a great bond for the four of us. It's great. And Sully, behind the glass.

Yeah, guys. Hi. Dan. Let's go. This has crashed to an awkward ending. All right. That's it. This is Dan Hansa signing off for a quiet storm.

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