NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Vikings vs Redskins TNF Recap

Episode Date: October 25, 2019

A garage filled with some hereos - Dan Hanzus and Marc Sessler recap the Thursday night revenge game between the Vikings and Redskins.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Needs a yard. Cousin sneaks and he has hit the backfield. I don't think he got it. I don't think he got it. The wrist backfires on Minnesota. The Redskins take over with the ball and field goal range. Second down at six. Askins too high and now picked.

McLaren was wide open, but Anthony Harris gets the interception. And that's the fourth for the rookie as he missed a wide open target. And there you have it. Dwayne Haskins throws the interception. And the Vikings just kind of coasts from there. a 19 to 9 win on Thursday night football in Minneapolis, a game where you didn't get a lot of fireworks, but you did get a very good steady Kirk Cousins performance, only three incomplete passes, and Dalvin Cook continued to do Dalvin Cook things, 98 yards on the ground

and a touchdown, 73 yards on five catches through the air, so he continues to build an MVP resume. Vikings get it done. Not pretty, but they get it done. Dan Hans is here, joined by the great quiet storm. Mark Sessler here in the throwback pod studios garage. What's up, buddy? Well, once again, I occupy the seat that Bob Castrone normally sits in,

and I feel because now in this situation, he's only mere feet away from me in the flesh, somewhat intimidated by the fact that the two of you are waiting for me just to leave, I think. Well, no, because as we talked about on a Thursday preview show, you will be sitting in on an all-new throwback podcast talking about love songs of your yester years. That's true. I mean, you know, and I guess so that.

And I'm more excited about that than this game, which was boring AF. As you should be. And you're showing more trust in me than Bill Callahan showed in Dwayne Haskins, who was allowed to throw the ball five times in this game. And there's a clear, like, divide between. the coaching staff wanting Haskins to play and maybe anyone else in the organization wanting to see more from him. The Redskins basically, if you get up on them by a touchdown, they will do nothing to challenge you. The Vikings, what do they do? They just stood their own,

basically. And Kirk Cousins, 23 of 26, a clean game, a game that we normally would not be doing a breakout broadcast on. I would say if it took place at 10 a.m. West Coast, California time. Well, you presented yourself on Sunday as the, what, trap game consultant or you had some type of title. It was something along those lines, yeah. And this was a classic trap game for the Vikings. Yes, it was. Because you have a home cookie against the Redskins. Trap game monitor, I believe it was, by the way.

Trap game monitor, which I like quite a bit. It's nice. Then you go to Arrowhead next week. Then you go to Jero World after that. So, and you're on a short week, obviously, on Thursday night football. So maybe in retrospect, we should have saw this coming. I wouldn't say that the Vikings played poorly, but they were a little flat and they didn't put a bad team away, which is what Washington is. And, you know, don't want to pile on Haskins because, again, everything we hear, and we talked about this earlier this week, why isn't this guy playing in today's football, a first round pick should be playing by now if the team's going nowhere?

But he's not because they don't think he's ready. well now, hey kid, come out of the tunnel at halftime and go beat the Vikings defense in Minneapolis where they really don't lose. So it's not like we're expecting a lot from Haskins. And like you said, he plays two quarters and throws five passes in a game they're trailing. So obviously they didn't have a lot of faith in him at this point.

And I think in a game that didn't have a lot of highlights, the play of the game was the Vikings go for it on fourth and short in their own territory in the third quarter. They don't get it done. They don't convert. I didn't love that call. It was gutsy, but, you know, they did what they did. And then the first play, Haskins has a wide open receiver over in the middle.

McCloren, Scary Terry. Is that the nickname? That works for me. I'm not sure that if you are actually him, are you signing off on that nickname? I think I read somewhere that he did sign off on it, almost reluctantly. Right, because when you're, well, if I'm him, I would hold out a bit. But if he's okay with that, good for him. But he throws high to Scary Terry, goes off his fingertips, intercepted.

And that was kind of the end in terms of the game. It was a seven-point game at that point, and it ends up a 10-point win. Vikings went deep into Redskins territory late in the game. It could have been more. I'm sure people that are connected to the desert would have liked to see that, but they did not in terms of getting more points. So big takeaways from me, and this is not a game to dwell on, but Dalvin Cook, he is the NFL leader now in yards from scrimmage.

And he showed it again. I think he's a guy to keep an eye on here. I don't care what time of year it is. I love talking MVP. And I think Russell Wilson is the leader in the clubhouse. I think Christian McCaffery is right there. Obviously, I think Lamar Jackson has gotten himself in the race. But Dalvin Cook is a guy.

If you're going to be talking about CMC, you've got to be talking about D.C. I have no problem with that. I'm glad that you added Lamar Jackson because if you look at that Ravens team, I'm not sure where they are if you put a aging plug-in-play veteran quarterback in there, a Joe Flaccoe, even a younger Joe Flacco-esque character because Lamar Jackson is so unstoppable.

If you're the Vikings, right now you're 6 and 2, let's say that you go 11 and 5 or 12 and 4 and you're not the most impressive 12 and 4 team of all time. I'm fine with that if you're Minnesota. You're going to have a few games like this. And if you're the Redskins, and if you're a fan of the Redskins, you must pray for change because I will harp on these teams that leave their fan bases completely stuck in a Quagmire where you feel powerless to change.

Do you say Quagmire? Quagmire. Isn't it a quagmire? I go Quagmire, but I will ask Bob Castron. Bob, Quagmire. Quagmire. Quag, it is. Sorry, that's why Bob's here.

I think he's gone right down the middle with that. He's gone right down the middle. Redskins fans who I think have been a little bit left in the... Bob's our official quagmire, quagmire monitor. Well, I think he's just going to agree with you, though, isn't he? Because that's how this works. I guess he's from the same town, so it has the same inflection on... That's true.

I'm not that actually... What would shock viewers or listeners is that I grew up about 18 miles away from you. I'm Mark Sessler. My favorite word is quagmiyer, I said quagmire, I believe. He said quagg. See your soccer soon. I mean, there is no, there is absolutely no chance that we're trying to film in here with this type of content to get out of this game review. If I'm a Redskins fan, you have the right to revolt. I'm not sure where that's going to accomplish in America at this

point. I'm not sure even where you go to revolt, but you have a right to be annoyed. To the streets, man. To the streets. Get into the streets. Because this has been an absolutely disastrous campaign piled on top of additional disastrous campaigns. All right. So you're one in seven. After the game. What else do we need to say? Bill Callahan, the intern. coach, and it also was reported earlier today that he is a very real candidate to keep the job. Of course he is, right? Please, because he's surging. Now, listen to the wording here. I got this from John Kime over at ESPN. It's a Kime bomb. He said he's not sure yet, Callahan said. He's not sure yet who will start at quarterback against

the bills. He said if Case Keenham is healthy, he will start. If Keenum can't play because of the concussion, so it is a concussion, then rookie Dwayne Haskins would start. Colt McCoy would back him up. So Haskins is officially, you know, ahead of McCoy. I guess we knew that already. But he's not ready to turn it over yet. And I guess one other Redskins note. And that was a nice moment in an otherwise dull game.

Adrian Peterson at the two-minute warning, you know, in his homecoming in Minneapolis, they showed on the scoreboard and got a loud ovation. Nice job by the Vikings fans. That's a good fan base. They get it. They give him a big ovation. He said he was holding back tears. and you know I'm tracking this very closely.

I mean, Adrian Peterson, what does he want? On a day that he moved, I believe, to sixth all time in terms of rushing, but he wants that Walter Payton record. And I want it for, I'll tell you what. Sixth place on the career rushing list. Is it possible that you are tracking this more closely than Adrian Peterson in terms of a game by game? The reason I'm tracking it so closely, because I am absolutely convinced he has no interest in the Washington Redskins or their success or plight.

It's all about getting those numbers and he's getting fitted for that jacket. And that's fine. He's done a lot in this league. My last point, Mark, they showed a graphic on Fox and we are in that time of season where we must praise Joe Buck for the incredibly work he's doing. Very personal. Very personal. For Major League Baseball and the NFL. Incredible.

What a talent. I mean, am I, but should he not be? No, he should be. What's our angle here? No, he should be, but it's, it's become a bit of a, it's become an NFL trope of late October. It certainly has. And he, you know, it's nice if you have the power to create a trope the way he has. I think it's just, it's a coup d'etat of sorts for him to go from someone that is, you know,

uniformly shot down and destroyed by most people for being a little too haughty-taughty with his Randy Moss show the bus. show the butt scenario to this, where now he's, as he should be, I think, praised for being the last five years have been very good for Buck in his image. And that's including he put out the memoir where he admitted that his hair line was going. So in a procedure to put in some type of hair plug, it led to his vocal cords getting frozen, which led to major career-threatening side effects. You would think that would stick with him like a scarlet letter, and I'm glad it didn't. He was very open about it, and he also tried to move units of his book with it.

That's true. I mean, you think... Shouts the Joey Bucks. Yeah, you think that might not make it into a memoir also. But then, but you know what? Listen, if there's a lack of content, right, you've got to move the books. But what I was going to say is in the Fox telecast, which is simulcast across NFL... Speaking of working with our, you know, R.D content here. Platforms. There was a graphic that that Washington coaching staff during the run of Jay Gruden had the flower on it, Matt LaFleur. It had Kyle Shanahan on it. It had Sean McVeigh on it.

And it did make me, it got me thinking that, because we talked about how Andy Dalton, you know, he is obviously the Dalton and what's worse to have a quarterback who instantly flames out a Mansell type, or a guy that you can't decide and, you know, half a decade, most of a decade passes, then you decide to move on, which is Andy Dalton. Is Jay Gruden the Andy Dalton of head coaches while the Washington Redskins kind of kept their foot halfway in and halfway out for years and years? They had all these young superstars potentially waiting in the wings to be the next guy and they just let it go? Does that make, like, LaFleur, Deshaun Watson, and Kyle Shanahan, Baker Mayfield, and Sean McVeigh,

Patrick Mahomes? That's an excellent. Well, I would say that... That's analysis, baby, on a Thursday night. That is, that is. And I would suggest that if anything, the Redskins may bear the Andy Dalton of franchises to not notice some of those issues as well. But I would say the Jay Gruden coaching tree is strong.

The Jay, his tree is a strong tree. I mean, the branches are strong. The trunk of the tree, it could be questioned whether or not with the rot situation. That's fair. It's one of those trees that just, you know, it's a little bit. It's in your backyard. It's a hard tree to figure out. Yeah.

Quagmire. All right. Any other thoughts before we say goodbye? I really, I am quite impressed with us to stretch this. Where are we with the minutes at this point? We're 12 minutes in. I would like you now if you have a minute to dish into your final thoughts on Joe Flacco, just to top west from last week.

I know that he went out, you know, he went out with a fiery limb on that. Where can you go with the Joe Flacco scenario? I mean, Joe Flacco, I don't. I don't profess to be always right, and I was hardly alone on this, but I nailed it. Joe Flacco was never going to be a plus performer for the Denver Broncos, and we've seen that bear out in the first half of the 2019 season. So no apologies needed, no mea culpa necessary. I just think now that we tweet this out as Dan's final thoughts on Joe Flacco, because if anything, let's just uniformly completely copy, but also usurp last week's message.

And Wes, you know, write on many things. things, but not on that. Okay, that's it. By the way, Stefan Diggs, seven catches on seven targets for a buck 43. He's happy now. Lost a fumble, and he leads the NFL amongst wide receivers with fumbles, but yeah, who cares? Uh, yes, he's happy now. Somehow that's not part of his messaging in the locker room. All right. That's it. So we'll be back as a foursome on Sunday to recap the rest of the week eight games. So make sure you come on back for the flag. show. Till then, play us out, Dick Banks. The Flames, sign it off. Hands due to Mr. Fancy Pants. The Flames need NFL news and here's their chance.

It's ATL around the league. Light of Flame boys. Pickskins hot tonight. Burn, baby burn. Hey, everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move to Six, we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies to evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. We study the tape, talk to decision makers, and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else. It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sunday. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

you get your podcasts. I'm Marcus Grant. And I'm Michael Florio, and together we host the NFL fantasy football podcast. Ready to dominate your fantasy league this season? Then you need the NFL fantasy football podcast, your ultimate source for player news, draft tips and winning strategies. Whether you're a rookie manager or a fantasy vet, we've got the insight to help you crush your opponents. Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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