NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Washington Name Change & Going North
Episode Date: July 13, 2020A bunker filled with heroes - Gregg Rosenthal, Patrick Claybon and Ricky Hollywood bring you all of the latest news around the NFL including the name change from the Washington Redskins (5:40), a trai...ning camp update (13:13) and status of 14 of the franchise tagged players in the league. (19:20). Cam Newton is excited to go north and Gregg and Ricky are excited about it. (25:14).Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast.
Greg Rosenthal, not quite surrounded, but still joined by a city filled with heroes,
Patrick Claibon, and Erica Tamposi, aka Ricky Hollywood, what's happening?
Hey, Greg.
A little different today, you know.
Hey, don't come at me.
Hey, my favorite's missing.
I want Dan.
I want Mark.
Why would they come at you?
Well, because I'm representing the people that they're, that they're, that they
don't want you know they want dan and mark uh and um they're not getting them this week let's break
it down it's uh it's a little bit different of a week this has been a very different off season and
and dan and mark are taking a a well-deserved week to settle a bunch of stuff and uh we thought
hey we're here let's tape a couple mini shows instead of going dark a couple weeks before
camp starts we're just going to hit you with the news of the day uh we'll get a little
extra Ricky Hollywood. We'll get a lot
extra Patrick Claibon
and we'll say bye and we'll continue
our training for this
2020 season. Greg's an extraordinarily
nice person. I will translate for anybody
that's trying to figure that out.
Don't complain. You're lucky
I'm doing this for you. I'm Greg
Rosenthal. I am the source
of your joy, your pleasure,
your pain, you're suffering. I am
everything. I am Greg.
Bow to me. That's not quite
what he said because Greg's a saint, but.
No. But I like that interpretation.
Ricky, you were at Hansis Manor yesterday for a nice socially distant, sitting far apart, quick meetup where you saw.
We were, yeah.
That's pretty exciting.
Saw West, saw Keisha, saw baby Link.
He is just like so freaking cute.
It's unreal.
Colleen Wolf was there and Dan.
And we all sat very, very far apart.
with masks on even that far apart.
So it was, it was very, it was really, really, we were really careful.
It was still, though, it's still, it's still cool.
It was hearing, I was not able to make it, unfortunately, was tied up with, with the family.
But, yeah, Wes, Wes and Keisha said it was one of their, the best days they've had in a long time and get to feel like a normal person and talk to other people.
It's exciting.
Claybon, why was your weekend?
It was good.
Last week was probably the busiest week, professionally, that I've had since I came to the NFL.
And that was different.
So the weekends, because, like, honestly, the start of all this, there was no difference between the days.
Everything was basically the same.
But, like, I hit Saturday morning, and it was like, all right, yeah, let's rest.
And then my son immediately kicked me in the face.
And so, like, it was like a, like, welcome back to reality.
You're not resting that much.
It's like Malcolm is, what, three?
Yeah, he's three.
And your newborn sage is, you know, a newborn.
So, yeah, you're not getting that much rest.
Give me a break.
Yeah, but just the requirements on me.
I could just be dad.
And so that was cool to just be dad for a couple of days and right back at it today.
But not to the same extent because last week was all right.
And now we're, yeah, we're putting you to work.
And I apologize for that.
I don't even have to put a shirt on for this.
Like, what are you talking about?
This isn't work.
There's like a little bit of it.
I think an emptiness inside of me and the only way to try to fill it is by podcasting.
It's like Mark said he was tired of hearing, you know, the sound of his own voice on some level.
It's like, nope, not me.
Got to just keep talking out into the void.
All right, let's do some news, Ricky.
If Captain Hook was moonlighting as a handyman, he might replace his hook with what tool?
A hammer.
Try again.
A penis.
I have a kid.
He's too old to sneak with a tank.
What the f*** he said?
I have never seen Steve Harvey stop during fast money.
Like, during the fast money round, the fact that he was like, what did he just say?
Oh, so good.
That was Steve Harvey, who's the host of the family feud in an NFL stars versus old stars show.
And that was Bruce Smith with one of the books.
memorable family feud answers in a long time that's that's 100% like as a family feud host your
job is to be there for when somebody fed something very sexually suggestive and react on that like
that's 100% the most important part of hosting that show and that's what steve harvey excels
at it is uh it's a classic i mean uh i can't say i watch a ton anymore but man i was locked in as
a as a preteen in and michael irvin by the way the the the clip of him celebrating one
One of his answers is also a delight.
Yeah, but did you see what the question was?
It was kind of like an either or a question.
It was 50-50.
It was like name a color on a checker board.
And he said red.
Which got 51 out of 100.
And he celebrated like they won a fourth Super Bowl.
But I don't hate it.
I love it.
I love it.
I wish we had, you know, such joyful news to talk about, well, I guess we do off the top,
depending on how you want to look at it.
A right has been wronged.
And we talked about it.
The Washington football team, we anticipated they were going to change their name.
They had officially said that they were only doing an examination into the team name.
On Monday, the team officially announced that they are changing their team name.
They mentioned the old team name seven times in the statement, which was interesting.
But it's coming.
And perhaps the only reason why they didn't announce what the new name is going.
going to be is there's reportedly a trademark dispute. But Dan Snyder, who's owned the team for 20
years and long fought against this change, officially is on the record that it will be no more,
and it will be no more before the 2020 season. So they're going to have to figure out what happens
with their uniforms and everything else in the next couple of weeks, Patrick. And it would seem like
hopefully there's been some sort of plan in the works. And it's not just how that statement makes it
sound, which is that Dan and Ron are just kind of like on a Zoom call, just talking it out,
like you and Emeka or me and Lauren naming kids, right?
Like, hopefully there's more than just two people involved.
And hopefully this is the trademark issue is just, you know, how squatters are.
You see people do it with URLs and Twitter names all the time.
Some dude, some realtor apparently squatted on all these names, I think somewhat recently.
he saw what was happening and he suddenly squatted on like 15 different names.
Yeah.
And so that, you know, that's unfortunate.
But at least like they didn't wait, right, until they had that resolved.
They let everybody know early on in the week that we're not going to use the name anymore.
And yeah, it's over.
Finally, we can move on something like it's, I'm just glad.
I'm just glad it's finally.
I know.
It is funny because this is one where we're NFL employees.
And a lot of times we get comments, especially from people overseas, wow, you guys, you know, you can, I'm not going to do an accent, but you guys can really, you know, they really let you take the piss out of, out of the league, even though you work for them.
But there are some issues that, you know, A, you always have to be professional about it, but B was kind of a third rail issue.
And this was it.
This was almost like the number one third rail issue.
So there is something to me, you mentioned, you know, Mike Silver calling the name racist.
I looked at, you know, the Judy Batiste, the headline, she writes for NFL.com today and just, you know, calling an embarrassed, a long-term embarrassment for the league is finally over with.
And there's almost part of me that's still like, can she say that?
But, but it's great because she can.
And it, the weird thing is it's been such a long fight and we will move on from it.
But it's not like, it's not like this is a new thing.
Right.
I forgot the name, but an Indian council back in 1972 was battling hard for this.
This is almost a 50-year-old fight.
There were 3,000 people, Ricky, at the Super Bowl in the early 90s that Washington played at protesting that Super Bowl.
So that's 30 years ago.
So it's not about like, hey, this isn't like, you know, different native voices have been battling this for a long time.
and, you know, I'm sure they're thrilled to see this.
I don't know.
It's like a larger question in this time.
But, man, like, there's a reckoning.
There's more reckonings for this country out there.
And I read this novel.
I'm just going to give it a shout at called There, There by Tommy Orange last year.
And it's a novel.
But, man, it provided kind of like a kaleidoscope of the current native experience in the country that was eye-opening to me.
And it's in a fictional way in such a way that I'm almost like ashamed how little I, you know,
I'd ever thought about it.
And it's a brilliant writing, too.
So I'd recommend that to anyone.
Yeah.
One thing that they kind of leaps out to me that through the course of the conversation again,
like as you said for my entire life about this team's name, is this idea that the only
reason it matters is because certain people are quote unquote offended.
And somebody always, they say offended in such a way that it's like, oh, they're being ninnies,
right and that's it but it's it's not about who is or who isn't quote a quote offended right
the the ideas that we have perpetuate actual harm on people and especially these people
who were here before any of us right and if we can't change at least even the most minor
things that we're not going to be able to change right you know the things that still impact on
the day and a shout out to the last person to complain about me not using the team name on
Twitter, who added the network and the league account run by Bright and anybody else in social
who I guess gets angry tweets about me.
Why did your late night anchor Patrick Claibon on Thursday night call blank the football team
from Washington instead of their nickname when doing the highlights of their preseason games?
Preseason games, by the way.
Is this an option that you've given to your talent on the network?
Well, Tim, you don't have to worry about me saying or not saying the team name anymore.
I'm sorry.
I guess today sucks for you.
Sorry, not sorry.
You do wonder, I do wonder a little bit if the Chiefs are next.
And the Chiefs are different because the Chief, there's many reasons why it's different.
But I do think it's possible.
And I don't think you'll see, you know, maybe the Tomahawk chalk at Chief's games in different sporty events too.
Moving on to the issue of the day.
And there's not a huge update today in terms of where we are with the coronavirus.
In California here, just to give our listeners a clue of kind of where we're at,
you know, cases are skyrocketing.
They are now, you know, adding restrictions or re-adding restrictions to what we can do in terms
of hair salons are now closed as of Monday, once again, indoor.
malls, a bunch of indoor activities essentially throughout the state.
And that's happening in a lot of places where new mask laws are happening.
New restrictions are happening in hot spots throughout the country.
So we're not in a good place in the country.
And that leaves the conversations between the NFLPA and the NFL and the NFL and how to start training camp.
Very complicated.
And, you know, I could get into all the details.
I just don't think they're that interesting.
But right now the two sides are talking on Monday.
about everything, how they're going to on-ramp the season,
player safety, health, and then economics.
There's an idea to have like a stipend if you end up being on a team
or even if you show up to work,
you get an extra $250,000 or $500,000 this year
that's guaranteed even if the games aren't completed.
That's one idea.
Is that go for us too?
Maybe if we have to go into the studio,
I think we should talk about that.
We should roll past to that one.
Yeah, I don't think there.
right now we are we're not going back into the studio as NFL media employees but I think
the biggest takeaway is just we're two weeks away supposedly from when all the teams are
supposed to show up and I think it's fair to say there is increasing concern that they're
not going to be starting on that date that that is that is up in the air and I think Ian Rappaport
and some of the players have have talked about that I think my hope is if they don't start right
if we're looking at this at it won't happen, I hope it's for safety reasons.
I hope it's not over a contract dispute or just the dispute over the money because I think
we've seen, at least in Tom's reporting since Friday, some pretty reasonable proposals
from the PA side, right?
And you could, you could negotiate on that in terms of, you know, the stipend or how much
money is going to players who have guaranteed salaries in the event of a loss. But I just,
I hope the decisions are being made with regards to safety first. And then everything else can
kind of follow after that. But I mean, if there's a, if there's a good faith effort on both
sides to be as safe as possible to start, then that's a starting point. But it's, it's unfortunate
that players who, and this is just in general, how it is always with, with, like, CBA,
and contracts like players have a very limited window to make money and the owners have a significantly
larger window and so when you're asking players to split losses right if there's up to four billion
dollars in losses if you want them to split at 50 50 over the course of one year I don't think
anybody could really look at that and say that's that's fair right for these players in particular
to shoulder that loss it's it's complicated which was I am not going to
be you know lighten you know torches or pitch take the pitchforks out at this point it is
complicated and i if on both sides and the revenue sharing aspect to the league adds another
layer of complication but nothing's more complicated than the health stuff and nothing's more out
of the league's control than the health stuff in california and texas in florida which is having
record cases so yeah i keep going back to that same point the league's not the league the league and the players
aren't going to have any ability to help control that.
And that's where it's going to be really complicated.
And I did, I reached out to Ian, see if he had anything extra where he's just kind of feeling things.
And he just said, nobody knows anything.
Nobody knows anything.
So if you have this idea of like there's a certain group of people that knows what's going to happen, I don't think so.
Maybe it's at the very inside of the league office where Roger Goodell works.
that has like a hope of how things are going to go.
But I don't think anyone in terms of teams, coaches,
or even the highest place media people really have any clue how this is going to go.
Sometimes.
Yeah.
Hooray.
And extrapolate that not just out through the NFL, but through all of society.
In the United States or America, where nobody really knows.
Are we bumming people out?
Are we bumming you out, Erica?
That's what I worry about.
I mean, no, it's, it's, this is.
our current. It's our present. I think it'll be interesting to see what happens with the bubble with
the NBA. And I think that everything that's happening right now in other sports is going to
directly translate to this league. And even Russell Westbrook today is positive for coronavirus.
So it's happening at an alarming rate still. Right. A lot of players. And you're right. I totally agree that
some of the trial and error that the MLB and NBA are going through in terms of their testing
time and how that gets complicated, that the NFL will be watching that closely, but the NFL
also has way more people. By the way, I saw Russell Westbrook at our local Kids Park last summer.
So you're going to say last week. I was like, you might want to go.
No, last summer. And I mean, not surprising that he's, you know,
a striking individual in person
but he could do like
he could lift his daughter
up to like the high part of the playground
in which I could
there's no way that I could
like he could just pick her up and take her down
but it was like seven feet in the air
and that's the sort of level of parenting
that he can provide
like that I just can't
what do you have to do climb up
and she's gonna climb up and down
which is fine that's the whole idea
but you know if she I think in this case
his kid was upset
and he could just, like, reach up and grab her, and that wasn't going to happen for me.
He's a tall, you know, he's a guard, so you don't think of it, but he is a tall, tall, tall man.
Yeah, the scale of NBA players kind of throws everything off, like, especially when you think, like, Dwayne Wade and Julio Jones are the same size.
But, like...
Really?
You know, that's the thing.
Westbrook is, what, 6, 6 or 7 or something?
So, I don't know.
You don't think of it, but, yeah, he looked like Cam Newton.
Apparently, they play at the church, him and some players play...
Gonzo, our friend Colleen's husband, John Gonzalez.
drop. Do you have that drop?
Of course not. Are we in a studio?
You think I can just pull it out of nowhere?
I thought maybe you could like later, you could just throw it in there.
I mean, I can see.
He somehow knew he's in the neighborhood that the NBA players get down at that church gym right near us.
Moving on.
All right.
Let's talk franchise tag.
I know the training camp may or may not start on time,
but the rest of the NFL little dates in terms of transactions have gone off as play.
land all off season. And that includes almost the last one, which is the day that franchise tag
players have to sign a long-term deal by or they only have the option to play under that tag this
year. That day is July 15th. That day is Friday. I mean, Wednesday rather. And it does not
appear that Dak Prescott is going to sign a new contract. They're very far apart. And to expand
it even further, it doesn't look like any one of the players.
that was a franchise tag.
And there was 14 of them this year, which is a huge number.
I think it's the second most ever.
Got the franchise tag this year.
Justin Simmons, the safety of the Broncos.
They're apparently talking Leonard Williams.
He's not getting it.
Matthew Judon is fighting to be counted as a linebacker instead of,
I mean, a defensive end instead of a linebacker.
Shack Barrett's doing that.
But my takeaway, two days away from this deadline,
is that it looks like none of these guys are getting long-term contract.
That includes Chris Jones.
as well, Patrick.
Yeah, and a part of that is just the general direction
that the franchise tag has taken over the last few years.
And then, again, not to, like, bring it back down,
but it's just the uncertainty that's associated with this virus.
Yeah.
And so there's been, and you see, like, like Ian said today,
that, you know, there's still two days for DAC, right?
but what's what's the incentive right um especially if you're considering that there's a
possibility that this season might be shortened um you know if he's if he's on the tag like
he he could stand to lose a lot of money on on what's the incentive from the team you're
saying because there's still there's still incentive from the player's perspective to get
that guaranteed money sooner than later yeah get some get some guaranteed money at the signing but
what's as far as Jerry
it's just not
there and so
that's working out in their favor
and a lot of these other guys it's just like
oh well we'll tag him
you know I don't know that they were interested in having them
long term anyway most of them I would agree
I don't think Matthew Judon was
ever getting a long term deal I don't think
Shaq Barrett was ever getting a long term deal
Leonard Williams is the truth baby
Leonard Williams that was definitely not
getting a long-term deal. Joe Tooney with the Patriots, I don't think was ever getting a long-term
deal. But guys like Chris Jones, who have made some noise about letting this holdout go a little
further, it does appear like the chiefs are trying to make some sort of good faith effort.
It'd be complicated, but I just don't think it's going to happen. And the Cowboys especially,
man, they've got a good deal just having him on a one-year contract, but it's dangerous. I mean,
And I think the price, you know, it really is dangerous because I think, you know,
Dax's only going to be worth more and more as this go, you know, if he plays well this year.
And I think he will.
I just, oh, I, I don't understand how we're still doing this thing that Matthew Jude,
Judon and Shaq Barrett are having to deal with.
Like, if you, if you're rushing the passer a certain number of times, like, yeah, like,
just just stop trying to call these dudes linebackers.
Like, what do we do?
He led the NFL in sacks.
So you're going to say he's a lot like, like, I don't know.
This is, yeah, for, this is getting in the.
weeds, but this is a battle that's been going on, I think, for like 15 years at different
positions.
There was outside linebacker and inside linebacker teams used to battle over and they just made
it total linebacker.
You're right.
They need to make edge a position.
That's what we've done at the projected starter series, you know?
That's what they've done at Roder World.
They don't even mess with D.E.
They just go edge.
Follow us.
We just say edge for the NFL draft.
I mean, it's not like, you know, these Mario Williams, Julius Peppers guys are coming in a whole
lot like where it's just like oh yeah this is this is the guy like you line up if you rush the
quarterback then you're an edge that's all right we don't have like a ton of like high super crazy
level news but we are going to run through a few more stories quickly one of them including
the patriots that i i don't think it's just me being a patriots fan that finds this interesting
they opened up 7.74 million dollars in cap space over the weekend when the NFL ruled in
their favor on a pair of grievances involving Antonio Brown and wait for it, Aaron Hernandez.
They are getting salary cap space back from the Aaron Hernandez saga in the year 2020.
Erica, I know you're a salary cap expert.
I also know you're an Aaron Hernandez expert after watching the documentary.
I think you listen to the podcast.
You are a Patriots fan.
Your thoughts.
I mean, yeah, when it comes to Cass, when it comes to cats.
stuff like I'm your girl and this is this is huge news this is the best news of 2020 no I have no
idea I mean it's it's it's it's kind of good that feels like that's sort of closing the door on the
I mean you don't want to turn your turn a blind eye to the Patriots history but it is sort
of nice to kind of put that behind us going forward it's also nice to get an MVP quarterback and
be like oh man we look man we only got so much money you know what I'm saying you want to
football. That's a good call.
This is all we got. You know, this is it.
This is our best offer. And then the next
week, it's like, oh, hey, look, we got
somebody. Oh, well, you already signed. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I didn't even think about that.
That's, um, that is convenient.
Maybe that plays into a future signing.
I mean, maybe it's like a come and
make sure you're healthy and show. I mean, I know that's like the stupidest
argument ever. I mean, they would love, I would, they would love
Cam to ball out and to sign him to a big term contract. They can use the franchise tag on
Cam. And he does have a lot of incentives on his contract, but not that many. I mean, not enough
where if he plays well as a starter that he's going to be the best bargain in the entire league.
And you know who believes me? Who agrees? Cameron Newton. Let's listen to Cam Newton. I know you
haven't heard this, Patrick, but I don't know. There's something about me. I've always been a
I'm obviously a Patriots fan.
There's something about this entire experience that as we're getting closer to it is
fascinating to me.
And I just want to listen to a video that Cam released after a workout.
If you can find it, it's cinematic.
I mean, we're listening to it.
We're going to listen to the whole thing.
So Patrick, feel free.
We can talk a little over it because it's like a minute and a half long.
Let's hit it, Ricky.
You know what makes this different?
He is.
He's actually tired now.
He ain't never seen his cam.
Yeah.
They ain't never seen him.
That's a big spit, by the way.
He hawked him.
They ain't never seen him.
The forgotten cam.
Yeah.
They don't get on cam.
Tired of being sick of tired cam.
I felt like I was just left it.
die. There's a lot of Cecil
in this.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just, just, it's
over with for him. He ain't the same
player.
The Atlantic,
and what you're saying, this is the
growing up, Cam, Patrick?
Nah,
people,
Cam is literally the son of a preacher man.
I love it.
I adore it.
I admire it.
Taste it. I want to, I want
everything about it.
You know what I'm
saying because he's got the workout endorphins
juicing through him right now. Yeah, I ain't
never seen at me. We got to get
we're going to get these guys to like
follow more friendly timelines
so they're not only
exposed to activity. I admire
it. I want to taste it. I want
everything about it.
All right. That's a good thing.
I ain't ever seen at me.
You know what I'm saying? I ain't.
Wait, did we just loop back
to the beginning or something? What just happened?
No, he's just repeating himself.
Loving on my keys more.
Okay, here he is.
Here's the big ending.
Got more energy.
You know what I'm saying?
Chosen say, Daddy, Daddy, daddy, daddy.
We're going to Charlotte?
I said, no, son.
So, where?
Charlotte's dead.
We got another place we're going to.
We're going north.
Oh, yeah.
We're going north.
The smile on y'all's faces when he said that,
even though both of you had heard it before.
This kind of indicates to me the passion of being an NFL fan,
and I'm glad that you guys have another fantastic quarterback,
albeit a more cinematic one, almost, almost.
I mean, there is something to, first of all, I love that, you know,
he said the humble cam is gone.
It's like the Humble Cam wasn't around for too long, and no one wants that.
That's not who Cam is.
I want this cam.
I love that he's calling himself the,
we had to beep out some words there,
but the, I did it on cam,
and I don't know.
It's just going to be,
it's going to be fascinating.
I don't know.
It makes me so much more excited
if there is football this season.
I just don't want him to be bad.
I know.
I don't want to imagine what Boston is like
if he doesn't play well.
But, man, he's going to make it,
he makes it fun.
Please, people talking about.
about Jared Stittam competing with him.
And it doesn't even, like, cut off.
He is like, we're going north.
And then he, like, looks off into the distance and then walks into the darkness, like,
someone following him.
I was just like, let's go.
Yeah, you're right that this is NFL fandom in a nutshell because I never watch any of
these player type videos, hype type video.
I've never watched the camp video like this before.
But now that, now that it's the Patriots and in this quiet time, I'm like watching this
and thinking, oh, yeah, watch out.
It's like a game of Thrones.
Right.
we're gonna we're gonna know pretty early right um i think so somebody's gonna run a deep out and if cam's
fastball is back well then you guys are gonna win the super bowl i mean that's the only that's the
only difference like if cam if cam's arm is back then then that's it the page i think so i think
you're gonna know by mid august if if they're actually practicing at full speed and that's gonna
take weeks i think to really find out about but maybe it's late august basically if he's just out there
and he's healthy, then we know.
Then they have cam for as long as it's going to last.
And maybe that's six games.
Maybe that's six years.
It's really tough to tell, but it is one of the delightful subplots of this season
that makes me hope that we do have it.
After this season, though, we already know a little bit about the broadcasting teams for 2021.
Greg Olson has officially signed to Fox Sports.
We've been tracking this story.
and I just figured, let's throw it in there.
He is signing for 2021 to Fox Sports.
He's going to be their number two analyst, along with Kevin Burkhard.
That was the old Charles Davis role.
Charles Davis is going to CBS.
Moose Johnston is going to fill it this year, but just for one year.
And Greg Olson is getting a nice post career gig.
And I'm all about it because I think he's done a great job when he's done some games.
I can't wait to see what the third leg of Greg's career is going to look like.
I mean, he has just, he's taken over.
He's been in, at Miami, florist in Charlotte.
You know, they had an opportunity to win a Super Bowl.
And I think it's good.
Like, there was this era, right, of color guys that didn't really, it seemed like it was
forced almost.
And kind of Romo has opened up this idea of just kind of get up there and be you.
don't necessarily try to fit into this broadcaster mold that we've all been up there.
And if you want to have fun, if you want to be excited,
if you want to riff on the guy that's calling the game, like, go up there and do it.
I'm excited to see Greg do it.
I'm excited to see, you know, the next wave.
Not to push anybody out, but, you know, just let's just watch the game and have some fun
and not be all kaji.
Give Nate Burleson and that NFL network team admit a little extra work, too.
I think they were fun out in the UK last year.
A couple smaller items, again, we're going to close up with here and say goodbye.
And we will be doing one other show this week unless you just come at me and say, no, no.
She's just like, that wasn't good enough.
Sorry, Greg.
Rahim Moster had a trade request.
This happened after we taped our last podcast on Wednesday.
Since then, the agents walked it back somewhat or totally that he realized.
realizes it was a bad idea, but he does want to raise Rahim Moster, a Super Bowl and playoff
hero. I mean, could have been, you know, one of the most valuable 49ers. There was, Erica,
but they just don't want to pay him because he's a running back and they find running backs
on trees in San Francisco. I do think it's a little, it's funny that he's like, actually, you know,
I don't want to trade anymore, which is like the ultimate leverage. It's like if I go to my boss
and I'm like, hey, someone's really recruiting me and like they're going to pay me, whatever. Then
like, okay, go.
And it's like, oh, wait, no, like, I'm good here, but can we, like, work something out?
I mean, you've tried that move.
I have.
Yeah, I'm still trying.
I try it, you know, weekly.
You've tried, like, the beginning steps of that, of that move.
Oh, definitely.
And I think it could be successful.
I think at this point, your leverage is greater than it's ever been.
Yeah, I agree.
But for, for Rahim Moster, I think they kind of, like, I would think that shanahan would want to keep that
team as close together as possible for right now because they're in that window.
still. And especially with the season
that they had, they're
in a good place.
Is that Sage?
Yeah. Sage is making a guest appearance.
Do you want to, do
you need to go? Do you want to bring
Sage on the show? It's up to you. I mean, she is
on the show. I love having her.
Yeah, we can see her here in a second.
Lauren is manipulating a
excrement receptacle
device.
See, this is
what, I'm sure it's a
audio. No, I think it's great. It's a slice of life. Um, but honestly, like, I understand
where Rahim Moster is coming from. Oh, you're just pivoting right off of sage? I thought you were
given and give some fatherly, like, okay, this is what life is like. I don't really have any,
like, fatherly things to present me. Like, Lauren's just been carrying us this, this past couple
weeks. And so, like, my fatherly advice would be to, uh, to find a spouse. Yeah, Mary Lauren.
Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Uh, all right.
I would suggest to everybody
bury somebody like my life
but not my life because I like her too much.
If you guys want to say her to Sage.
Sure.
Hi.
Oh, my goodness.
She is so beautiful.
Erica's living that baby life seeing Lincoln and Sage
and back to back.
Oh, look at the little yawn.
Oh, you're just waking up.
Yeah.
Not happy about it.
Maybe this light's a little bright.
Cute.
So cute.
Like for Moser, if, if I get it.
Like the dude's over six yards of carry right for his career.
And I understand that people want to like attribute that.
And I know that we've done a lot of math here recently with regards to running backs.
And like the guy is popped off big runs.
And he makes plays.
So like why wouldn't he try to get like try to get some money, man.
Like we don't know how long this game's going to exist.
We don't know how long players' careers are going to.
So I'm never going to, like, dump on a guy for trying to put himself in position to make some more money.
Well, here's the thing.
He was the best one last.
They were at their best last year, and he was the best one last year, especially when it mattered.
They've had a lot of different people in there.
And this is kind of something people don't consider when you bring free agents into your organization, that the other people at that position see what they make.
and if they end up outperforming them,
then that becomes a problem,
or if they already were.
In this case,
most of, you know,
was paid at a normal rate,
but now he sees Tevin Coleman,
and he saw what Jerich McKinnon was making,
and he's making a lot less than them,
and he was a lot more valuable than Tevin Coleman was,
even when Coleman was on the field.
And so you get upset,
and maybe they'll give them a little pop.
I wouldn't be surprised if they put some incentives
or throwing something into his contract.
to throw him a bone at least.
We are going to wrap up with some more running back news,
which is that Devante Freeman, who is not in the league right now,
reportedly did have interest from a variety of teams,
but couldn't settle on the right number,
has had his relationship with his agent terminated.
That his agent sort of fired him, I guess, basically,
because he wouldn't take the contract that she was hoping that he took,
which is, you don't see that too often.
Yeah, I would, I'd like to hear from Devante Freeman, right?
Yeah.
Because the agent out in front, right, has something, has some, has a lot of skin in the game.
Maybe not as much as Devonte Freeman.
And I'm not, I'm definitely not doubting anybody's reporting.
But, you know, it's kind of like when a marriage doesn't work.
And it's like, yeah, sources say that he was a jerk.
And it's like, oh, well, let's let's, let's get a.
another point of view here because maybe
maybe there's some blame
to be cast on both sides.
Are you, are you,
you know, referring to
the Jay Cutler divorce?
Or are you just...
Any, uh, okay.
Perhaps any, any relationship involving
more than one person, right? Because there were
some stories. There were some stories that
came out immediately that didn't paint
Jay in the, in the,
in the brightest light. And, uh,
you know, in the entertainment press.
And it felt like, okay,
this is probably not coming from Jay's camp.
Yeah, does Jay Cutler paint himself in the brightest light?
Like, do we...
It's like, who can you blame here, really?
I mean, but honestly, I mean, when you get involved with A.J. Cutler,
one would think that you would be aware of the circumstances that would follow.
But, you know, all the best to Jay and Kristen and Devante and his agent as well.
His agent is named Kristen.
Kristen Campbell.
Yeah, I don't like it.
When the agent's putting it out there like that, they're clearly trying to say,
Like, hey, guys, it wasn't my fault that he didn't get a contract this offseason.
So it's playing the game.
I don't love that.
Oh, and one, on the topic of agents, one thing that I thought about, Charlie Caserly kind of slightly went in on Patrick Mahomes' agent last week.
And it was like the first time that I remember any concrete criticism of a player's agent.
And so that was cool to find out.
You like that.
I finally see that.
Yeah, because when the players signed their own contracts, right?
it's like oh they could have got this that and the other but if it's if it's an agent done deal
generally that's fair the idea is like oh well this is the best that they could have done you know
this they were working with certain circumstances because agents really dictate the course
of our conversations about a lot of things and uh i'm glad i've got a better one now
i'll say that good indeed good i want to hear more about that later but uh in the meantime uh Erica
hopefully you find the agent of your dreams.
I hope so. Thanks, Greg.
I've got mine.
Shout out to Burke.
And that's it for this show, I think.
We're just doing news.
We're going to update you on everything that's happening in the NFL a little later in the week.
And that's it.
And we'll be back with our full shows next week and our TV show around the NFL broadcast next week.
But we're going to hold it down this week.
And we're going to have fun doing it.
Thank you, Patrick.
Thank you, Rick.
let's do it
for Patrick Claibon
Erica Temposi
for Lauren and Sage
they jumped in here
for Patrick Claibon's fired agent
See you Wednesday
Bye.
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