NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Week 2 review

Episode Date: September 21, 2015

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling, Marc Sessler and Colleen Wolfe – recap all the games from the second week of the regular season including the injury-riddled... Cowboys defeating the Eagles and the Seahawks falling to 0-2. Plus, each hero shares his biggest takeaway from Week 2 of the 2015 season.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:08 Hey, Dan. We have no takeaways. That means I can take the earpiece off and go back to my house. In nothing to say. It couldn't be more wrong. We have, like, what, 45 takeaways or something on the website right now? So we lie. 14 games times three.
Starting point is 00:02:22 That's 42, good takeaways. Bang, 42 takeaways. That's our big, I would call that our, our, flagship piece on Sundays, if you're looking for just like a quick stop, everything that happened on Sunday, every game we have covered with three hot takes. Not hot takes, it's a pejorative term, you know, it's more like three insights on the game that was. How about a vanity URL for that kind of a piece?
Starting point is 00:02:47 That's true. Maybe NFL.com hashtag hot takeaways. That's not how the internet works. High octane takeaways. If I could, you know, be amorous with a article, if that was somehow possible, like, if I could get down with an article, you know what I'm saying? Yes. Yeah. This would be the article I would do with.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Do you really love its peaches when to shake its treat? That's a way to put it. So, yes, you could read all that stuff. It got weird, real quick on today's show. You could read all that stuff on the NFL.com around the NFL page. But here at the round of the NFL podcast, we're going to go game by game through all of Sunday's action. And there was a lot of good games to get to. I believe, Greg, there were 14 games on the schedule.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Where did you get that info? Well, there are 14 games today, one Thursday, one Monday, 32 teams, 16 games a week, no buys yet. Nicely deduced. And they say he's not a scientist. Yes. Still to come, by the way. We got a lot to get to. A lot coming up today.
Starting point is 00:03:50 We have the Packer Seahawks recap, the big Sunday night football rematch, which, yes, of course, is a rematch of the NFC title game. And, you know, a little spoiler alert. Revenge was in the air. Also, we're going to get to, we'll head over to Orchard Park where the Bills and the Patriots, a big AFCE showdown. And we'll see how Rex Ryan is feeling after his second game of the year. And then our old friend, Colleen Wolf, checks in.
Starting point is 00:04:18 The Wolf Woman will step in. and jump in and cover some games with us. Yes, Colleen, of course, of NFL Network. In NFL Now. In NFL Now? Connie Fox. All sorts of things. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And also, you want to check out the Around the NFL TV show. I call it Around the NFL called The TV show, which is on all week at 6 p.m. Eastern, except for Greg, on Thursdays when it is on 2 p.m. Eastern. You got to watch out for that on Thursdays. give you, Andrew Siciliano comes up with a big extra long show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:54 So that's all, that's everything that's coming up. It's everything that's ahead. I'm excited. Wes, you excited? I can't even contain myself. Navy blue polo with Wes. That means he's feeling a little blue. What's wrong with us? All of my shirts are blue. Wes, super low energy right now.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Is everything okay? Everything's fine. Okay, good. Good. So yeah, so that's what's going on. But before we get to the Sunday night football game, let's first share as we did a week ago. One big takeaway from the day that was in the NFL on Sunday. Mark Sessler, we'll start with you.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I had the pleasure of watching the 49ers attempt to do battle with the Steelers, and they did not do well. Our potential team of ATL, not one in my book, they got bomb dropped 43 to 18. They got whacked. That's not what a team of ATL does. Their defense attacked last week had nothing going on. Pittsburgh out shine.
Starting point is 00:05:48 49ers are out. All right. West, big takeaway. The NFC East is wide open. Prairie Land. It's an open prairie land. The Cowboys are in first place, but they've lost their two most valuable players
Starting point is 00:06:01 in back-to-back weeks, Des Bryant, Tony Romo. How is Brandon Wheaton going to move this offense? I don't believe it. The Redskins are looking kind of frisky right now. You're buying it on the Redskins? I'm not buying it on any NFC East team right now. All right, my takeaway. Aaron Rogers is a superhero.
Starting point is 00:06:17 You take away, Jordy Nelson. No problem. Eddie Lacey gets carted off. Who cares? If you have a healthy Aaron Rogers, you're going to win the Super Bowl this year. I guarantee it. Wow. That is a hot takeaway.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I love it. I guarantee it. Just watch. My hot takeaway is that the Saints are in deep trouble. Of all the games today, them hosting the Bucks look like maybe the biggest slam dunk among them. For them to lose at home to Tampa Bay raises serious questions, I think, about where this team is going, you know, this season and in the future. All right. Very good. Those are good hot takes, guys.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Let's now cycle back to the Packers and talk about the game that was, the Sunday night game, the final game of the Sunday. Aaron Rogers threw for 249 yards and two touchdowns. James Stark's rushed for 95 yards in the place of an injured 80 Lacey, leading the Packers to a 27-17 win over the Seahawks. Greg, the Packers, 2 and 0. The Seahawks, oh, and 2. This is not how we. thought this season would start it wasn't it's not for the seahawks it basically is for the packers this was a game that i think was more important to them because the seahawks are coming into their building they're you know Aaron rogers is healthy and i couldn't help but think of
Starting point is 00:07:35 chris wessling invoking uh you know mid career mj at his peak you know when he was talking about erin rogers last week i think about west a lot as well yeah i mean i just you know i think about a lot all the time i'm honored how can you not in that blue polo i mean just the throws he's making across his body in the first quarter when the Seahawks were outside just over a couple defenders' heads to James Jones. That's the type of stuff peak MJ does. Yeah, and the comparison was about
Starting point is 00:08:01 interrogating limits. You need a creative outlet because you've gotten so good you're trying new things, and that's what Aaron Rogers is doing. And it's 1,022 days since he's thrown a pick in Lambo. And part of being a good team
Starting point is 00:08:18 is, you know, Seahawks do this in Seattle. Green Bay does it, Alambo, dominating on your home field. That's exactly what they do. 545 passes over that span, too. In the Seahawks were between a rock and a heart place, they never sent any blitzes because they just were worried about how that's going to expose them in the back end. So they just let Rodgers kind of pick them apart in his footwork on the touchdown in the first quarter and then in the fourth quarter where he just steps up in the pocket and just sidesteps it.
Starting point is 00:08:46 It's so subtle how he does it. other quarterback can do it like he can and then just rifle it into the corner for a touchdown. He's just on another level right now. And I don't know about you guys, but I think the concern over Seattle's offense, it's not burning up, but Jimmy Graham, your whole point was you're going to go out and find a red zone threat and someone that can change the way that you're passing attack operates. One catch, 11 yards. I realize it's going to take time to get him into the rhythm and get things going.
Starting point is 00:09:12 It's not a panic situation, but Seattle is 0 and 2 for one reason because their offense has no rhythm. Yeah, I'm worried about this offense level because you don't know Jimmy Graham off to a slow start and who knows this could take a year. It might never happen in Seattle, Jimmy Graham. Maybe his fit was in New Orleans where he was a superstar and maybe he's kind of just another guy with some ability to make plays in the red zone here. And the other thing, Marshawn Lynch, we know, is an all-world running back. But this is now back-to-back games where he's getting swarmed in the backfield repeatedly. I think Marcia and Lynch will be fine too. But this has not been a good start to the season to his offense.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I think it's more about this specific game when I think about the takeaways. This is now back-to-back games in which Dom Capers has had their number. The Packers' defense, which is not one of the best defenses in the NFL, I mean, they intercepted Russell Wilson four times in the NFC title game, and then they shut down Marshawn Lynch in this game. So to me, that's impressive, and does this give the Packers basically a three-game lead? Yes, it does. I mean, yeah, you can't tie them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:13 They are now, you've got to get three games ahead, which is, you know, a lot. You've got to basically catch up three games. And I started thinking about all those teams back on the first day of free agency. Remember when they had three gigantic trades all within five minutes of each other? That's my hot take. It's not working out for anyone. The Seahawks, they trade away Max Unger. They're O'N two.
Starting point is 00:10:34 The Saints trade away Jimmy Graham. They're o'n two. The Ravens and Lions trade for Nata. They're both O and two. Sam Bradford. Sam Bradford's not working out. Don't make trades. How about this?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Stop writing off-season articles. about trades could have saved a lot of online in. Keep trading. Trades are fun. No, I'm kidding. Trades are fun. I'm just saying for whatever reason, all those teams are off to slow stuff. DeMarco Murray signing not going well for either either. There's a lot of things not going well in the NFL. We skew negative.
Starting point is 00:11:02 I will say one more point. I mean, the Seahawks are winning this game in the fourth quarter, if I'm not mistaken. And they also had a chance to march down the field and Russell also got picked off on a screen pass intended for Marsha
Starting point is 00:11:17 Lynch as they're approaching midfield. So, yeah, okay, the Seahawks are 0 and 2, but they were competitive in this game in a tough spot at Green Bay with Aaron Rogers healthy and killing everybody right now. So we all think the Seahawks will still be okay, right? Well, they're going to be okay next week. They've got the Chicago Bears coming into town, and it's very possible that Jimmy Clausen's starting for the Bears. It's similar to last year.
Starting point is 00:11:39 They're going to have to catch up right now. There are two games behind the Cardinals. That was what they had to do midway through last year. They were three back of the Cardinals, and now they're going to have to be playing catch up. up again. Who's foolish enough to write this team off? Do you want to hear from Doug Baldwin in about three months? No one is writing them off. Well, yes. There will be fools this week that
Starting point is 00:11:57 write up, mark my words. Some hot face. Out there that say, oh, without Cam, Chancellor, and now they're not going to have home field advantage, blah, blah, blah, they're done. But they will not be done. Well, I'll wait until they're eight and seven or something, because if we took too many things away from eight and seven's a little too late on the other side. Well, maybe
Starting point is 00:12:13 it is, but after week one, it's way too early to start pronouncing people, everyone great and not great. And week two is just as much too early. All right, guys. Let's move on to the Philadelphia Eagles and Dallas Cowboys, where Chip Kelly's offense was given fits by Dallas' defense a 2010 Cowboys win at Lincoln Financial Field. But that is not the big news.
Starting point is 00:12:33 The biggest news is Tony Romo, fractured collarbone, unknown timetable, but he's going to miss a serious amount of time. Brandon Whedon, Mark Sessler, is back in our lives. West, Cowboys are 2 and 0. But without their triplets, are they dead? Yes. Yes. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Come on. We said this before the season when none of us picked them to go to the playoffs because if anything happens to either Romo or Des, they're done. Now something's happened to both of them. I don't expect to see either of them on the field before what?
Starting point is 00:13:04 Mid-November? Well, we don't know. The earliest. Broken clavicle, there is some reports out there that Romo thinks maybe it would be eight weeks or something like that. They're two and O right now. You know, not for nothing.
Starting point is 00:13:15 They were going to win this game. pretty handily without Des Bryant, you know, they did it with Brandon Whedon going seven for seven. I'm just saying they are two and oh and it's a lousy. Hold on what? Brandon Whedon, seven for seven. No, they won it without Des Bryant, but what about the part where they already had a huge lead when Brandon Whedon entered the game? He didn't have a chance to screw it up. Greg, you aren't honestly hanging your argument around Brandon Whedon finished the game seven for seven. You wrote the article last year when Brandon Whedon started and I read it and it said the coaches went out of their way to make sure
Starting point is 00:13:46 that Brandon Whedon wouldn't be a factor in this game and he was anyway because he was that bad. If you project Brandon Whedon's stats moving forward, he's going to have the best season any quarterback has ever had. Completes every passing. One of my favorite moments, by the way, of the season so far,
Starting point is 00:14:01 was after Romo goes down and it's obvious that he's hurt badly, even Aaron Andrews reported that he mouthed it's broken or something like that. So you know Brandon Whedon's coming in the game and then they keep cutting to him on the sideline. He's just sitting on the bench. Sitting on the bench. He's looking at notes.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And Troy Aikman for Fox is even like, you know, I think that Brandon should probably get up and throw a few. And it was amazing. And it just spoke to the Brandon Whedon experience. But like Craig said, he's not going to throw an incompletion this year. Hey, when you're Whedon, you don't need warmups. He warmed up on the field with a game ceiling touchdown. I mean, it's amazing. We've gotten this far into the, you know, talking about this game and the Eagles offensive performance hasn't even come up. I think if you look at the rest of the NFC East right now, the Giants are in. trouble. The Redskins are one and what. Is it that crazy to imagine? All I'm saying, the way
Starting point is 00:14:48 the Cowboys defense is playing, that they could go three and five over the next eight games and they're right in the mix and when Romo, if Romo got back. Craig, here's the problem, though, because when you don't have Tony Romo, whether with or without Des Bryant, Tony Romo moves that offense. Suddenly you're going to deal with a quarterback that's going to give you two plus turnovers a game. I guarantee you weed is going to do that. Tony Romo is exceeding in a ball control passing attack, which is the worst possible fit for Brandon Wheaton's skill set. Because he has no touch and he has no field vision, it's not going to work. But it would put a ton of pressure on the defense and on their ground game,
Starting point is 00:15:19 which, frankly, I'm not that impressed with the ground game. Let's talk about the genius, the great genius, Chip Kelly, and the offense that could not be stopped. And we spent all summer slobbering over ourselves about the potential with Sam Bradford. But now we look at results through two weeks. And yes, perhaps I'm having a little too much fun with this. I do like to see Chip Kelly fail. Don't know why.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Don't know why I feel that way. where that's coming from. But the true of the matter is eight quarters, and six of them have been terrible where they have not moved the ball well, not scoring. So one good half against the Falcom does not make up for the fact
Starting point is 00:15:54 that they've been bad on offense. Today was complete, comprehensive ineptitude on every level of their offense. Sam Bradford looked like the Rams, Sam Bradford. His confidence was shaken. He was looking at the rush. He wasn't seeing the entire field. The offensive line was, as confused
Starting point is 00:16:12 as I've seen an offensive line, in the run game. Rob Marinelli was running stunts and the Eagles had no idea what to do with it. DeMarco Murray can't run sideways. He was billed as a north-south runner when they signed him and all of a sudden they've got him running toward the sideline. It's not a good system. The receivers are dropping passes. It was a complete comprehensive failure on every level of their offense. When they were wrecking the league two years ago, that line was playing. It was studs across the board and they were a perfect fit for what he was doing. Sam Bradford QBR of 5.3. Now, when other quarterbacks do that, we take him to the Woodshed, and Bradford did not play well today.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I'm not sure what the next step is. I think Sanchez should have been in the game today. I do, too, because it was salvageable at one point. That bad. In Philly, a chance to, especially after Romo goes out of the game, you have a chance to turn things around, and they stuck with him. And, you know, just back to DeMarco Murray a second, you know, we talked about Wes.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I know you pointed out how slowly he looked. I think what was this type of 13 characters? for one yard today. He's on pace this season. He's on pace this season for 88 yards total through two games. I mean, this is a guy that set a record last year in the NFL or tied a record for most 100-yard games.
Starting point is 00:17:22 So, yes, maybe he's a step slower, but that wouldn't make up for everything. What we're seeing here is comprehensive failure from DeMarco Murray. Jerry Jones did not want to sign him, executive of the year. Well, what about the Cal, I mean, I think the Eagles' offensive line has to be as big or bigger to blame
Starting point is 00:17:38 for this. Ryan Matthews isn't running the ball. I mean, as a team, they only got one carry. What's up with that? As a team, they only ran for seven yards. It's crazy. This is the same team we all put in our top five of our power pole as a group. We had them running away with the NFC East, largely, or at least partly based on the preseason. And then that's a mistake.
Starting point is 00:17:57 You're right. The defense looked better. Well, I'm not sure it's a mistake. Yeah. I don't think just because you have two awful games means they're done for the season, especially in a division where the leader is now without Tony Romo and Des Brian. If this two games stretch happened in week eight and nine, nobody would pay that much attention.
Starting point is 00:18:11 It's because it's the first two weeks of the season, so we act like they can't come back and win a division where the Cowboys don't have their two most valuable players. This division is wide open still. That's fair. It's too early to count them out because numbers are a lot of new parts. I have much more confidence in the Eagles right now than the Cowboys. Because at least the Eagles have personnel, the Cowboys don't have the talent right now. Two-game lead is significant, though.
Starting point is 00:18:32 People act like a two-game lead. And we two? With 14 games left, if you, yes, that is very significant. Not a Brandon's the other guy, the other quarterback. You're hoping to get Romo and Des Bryant back at some point, obviously, or else Thanksgiving. When you are Chip Kelly and your team runs for seven yards, I don't care when that happens in the season. What we think about Chip Kelly, that is noticeable. Can you give, I want to hear how much of it had to do with the Cowboy defense, though.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I mean, don't they deserve some credit here? Absolutely. I did give them credit. I said Rob Marnelli stunts had them confused all game, and the front seven played great. Final question. Chip Kelly fired today, tomorrow. What's the better move? He's running the show.
Starting point is 00:19:09 This isn't Rob Chisinski. You don't send him home on Sunday night. Someone had a great tweet that maybe only Chip Kelly could win because of Vandy Reed's players. That was it. Now that I got rid of all the players, it's over. That's a piping hot take. All right. Next up, let's move on now to Orchard Park, where the Buffalo Bills are amped all week, all their fans.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Very optimistic fan base in Buffalo. But guess what? They came down to Earth. Tom Brady threw for 466 yards and three touchdowns. Tyrod Taylor threw three picks. And the Patriots continued. their dominance over the bills, a 40-32 win. Greg, I need to ask you a question as someone that is a patriotish fan.
Starting point is 00:19:48 You're a patriotist fan now. Finally. That's a silly thing to say. You are, you are, is Tom Brady better than ever at age 38? His arm strength is just as good as ever. I don't think he's better than ever, but he's right there. I mean, he had a throw, and Rex Ryan pointed out after the game, the bills were up 7-0. the place was just going crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:10 They went right down the field to start the game. They stopped the Patriots on a three-and-out. Then the Patriots had the ball back, and Brady just had a laser for 30 yards up the middle to Gronk, who was well-covered. And it was one of the fastest throws I've ever seen anyone throw. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:26 What a life, Greg has once again. And you know what? Do you hear that? Yes, I do. The minstrels, and their flutes. The minstrels, there's a little angel strumming. here's some grapes popping some grapes into mouths Greg's mouth and by the way now they have one of the best
Starting point is 00:20:41 all-purpose backs in the history of the NFL right Wes well they have triplets this is why who are the triplets well you've got gronk who's unstoppable you've got Edelman who's one of the most athletic players in the NFL quadruplets and you've got Dionne Lewis who only three players in the NFL have more yards for scrimmage
Starting point is 00:20:58 Antonio Brown Julio Jones Matt Forte and then Dionne Lewis you have to put him in the conversation now wait did Dionne Lewis just bump Tom Brady out of the triplets in New England? Well, it's fair. Yeah, that's fair. Totally fair. You know, Lewis is so good.
Starting point is 00:21:12 He fumbles twice and can't even land in Belichick's doghouse because he's too valuable to take off the field. Just wait until he oversleaps. He makes the first guy miss on the run and as a wide receiver. He's incredible. He really, I know we're getting carried away with two weeks, but just the skill set that he has shown in two weeks, you would think he was one of the best running backs in the NFL. He has been back incredible.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yeah, and we've talked about this, and I know that we'd like to act like we discovered this guy 10 days ago, but Joe Banner had his sights on this. No, he did. They were going to use him as a third. They were going to use him as a third downback, not in every down style. At the time, they had Trent Richardson, so you have to put that into account. That's two years ago. That's Mark, not the Brownson forcing Joe Banner into the conversation. Well, no, Joe Banner, like, sang about this guy endlessly, and everyone laughed at him. Well, now he's in a spread offense with light boxes, and he's in the perfect offense. I don't think it would have happened with the Browns, It would not have. But when you put him in the Patriots offense, a lot of players that we wouldn't think succeed suddenly just...
Starting point is 00:22:11 Mark, don't give me those wild eyes. You're right. No, because I mean... You've got the wild eyes on Cesslo. It's not like this guy didn't emerge from the forest five hours ago. Well, nobody wanted him last year. He was out of the league. It was coming off in ACL tear. Brady just passed for more yards than anyone's ever passed on the Buffalo Bills ever in one game. Can we talk about the Bill's defense? Specifically, let's talk about Rex Ryan, who has made a life's mission to beat Bill Belcheck.
Starting point is 00:22:34 He opted to stay in the same division as Bill Belichick, and this could not have gone worse. I mean, Tom Brady was through for 500 yards, for Christ's sake. This was Rex what he had to say after the game in a very different setting when compared to the festive atmosphere after they beat the cults. You know, yeah, we've got to get better as a team. There's no question. But I have to get better. You know, Belichick out-coach me, no question about it. And that's where the game, that's how it ended up.
Starting point is 00:23:07 The plan has to be better on defense. I can't give up 500 yards to beat anybody. And then we turn it over three times. But, you know, we did a horseshit job. And it's my responsibility. I think this was Rex Ryan being humbled. I don't need to hear any more about how Rex Ryan comes up with good plans for Tom Brady either. He watched them spread him out and just throw the, they threw the ball, their first 10 plays of the game.
Starting point is 00:23:33 They ended up throwing it 59 times. Their running backs only had 10 carries. Lagerap 1 only had 2. It was basically the Patriots saying, hey, your whole style of football, Rex, Ryan, is outdated. You're not going to get your substitutions in to try to blitz us. We're just going to play so fast that you're going to be stuck with the guys that you have on the field.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And you can run the ball pretty well. We don't really care about running anymore. That's old news in the NFL. Mark, you saw this all coming, too, because you thought that Rex is well overdue for another slice of humble pie, and that's exactly what happened. He was. It's all off-seasoned. I'm jumping out of airplanes. I'm doing shots at Buffalo bars. You think that George Bush, the former president's a punk?
Starting point is 00:24:11 Well, he can go, too. Forget that guy. Listen, if I'm Rex Ryan, here's the thing. How about you stop talking when it comes to the Patriots? The Buffalo Bills talked all week long based off a week one win that meant nothing. And here's the thing. Rex Ryan gives you the same thing on defense and the same thing with his teams week after week. The Patriots do something different on offense every time Rex Ryan's never figured it out and he never will. The fires in the eyes.
Starting point is 00:24:35 He didn't learn his lesson on what Greg said. that he's playing 1980s football. He didn't learn his lesson on what you said about trash talking because before the game, he said, Dionne Lewis, I don't know his name. I don't need to know his name. After the game, he says, I still don't know his name.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Next time, run the ball. Oh, my gosh. Running the ball doesn't matter. Rex Ryan in this game said afterwards, maybe I had my team too fired up, you know, and a couple of the players said, maybe we were too emotional. This was too personal for us.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And you did get the sense. Fight down, Rex. After they were up by seven. everything looked good early. You did get the sense after the Patriots had a couple of nice offensive drives. The bills were just like, oh, what? We're not the best team in the NFC?
Starting point is 00:25:17 What happened? And they totally didn't fight back for most of the game. Suddenly the Patriots were up 24 points, and they just were trying to drop a 60 burger on them. They're throwing for 50-yard touchdowns on 4th and 1. They're going empty backfield up 24 points. And then the bills came back and had a pretty nice fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Before we move on, can you just give us a review of Tyrod Taylor start two? Oh, it's huge red flag. He just held on to the ball forever. He took eight sacks. I would put five of those on him. He made a couple decent plays with his leg and did have a decent comeback once they were really trailing. But I think his first read was taken away. They kept him in the pocket and he looked like a confused guy out there.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I mean, Chandler Jones had three sacks. Jamie Collins, two and a half. Well, and Sammy Watkins, you're averaging 30 yards after two weeks. How good are things going for Greg right now? Remember that magical 2007 season? Oh, yeah. Through two weeks, Brady has more yards, more touchdowns, and fewer interceptions than that 2007 scene. This was the ultimate throne of ease game.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I have to admit. I was thinking that when I was laughing at. Greg has a smile on his face, the width of the country. I did not expect this. I was like, wow, this is pleasantly amazing. You're the worst. Yeah, you're going to go 12 and 4 again with the Patriots today. The worst.
Starting point is 00:26:26 I mean, I like you as a boss, but there's too much happiness with you and your franchise, and I'm sick of it. Let's move on to another team that's 2 and O. They are the Cincinnati Bengals, and it's, thanks. Thanks to Andy Dalton, who continued his hot start to the season, throwing for three touchdowns without an interception and a 2419 home victory over the Chargers. The Bengals sit alone atop the AFC North at 2 and O. And this was an interesting game in that Dalton, who were going to have questions about Dalton,
Starting point is 00:26:59 as long as the months go by until we get to January and he does something. But this guy is playing very well, and he's got the weapons around him, and he is well set up for a Pro Bowl season right now. And, you know, how good is this offense? You have a game by Gio Bernard in which he rushes there are 123 yards and 20 carries. You replace his Jeremy Hill, who fumbled twice.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Basically, Hill went to the doghouse. I'm sure it was just kind of a second half type thing. I don't think it says a long-term effect. But it reminds you of how good Gio Bernard is. So you have the Bengals. They have a great running game. They got A.J. Green. Tyler Eiford had another touchdown.
Starting point is 00:27:35 They took care of business. against a good, not great, but good Chargers team. I like the Cincinnati team right now. Credit where it's due. If you watch this show on NFL now or on YouTube and you see the highlight package they put together for Andy Dalton, I mean, those weren't easy throws that he's putting out there. He had three or four, like, high-quality, top-level quarterback throws.
Starting point is 00:27:54 We expected him to have a career year this year. The surrounding town is there. All that matters is what happens in January. Where's your P-scale in West of us, West, 2-0? He has five touchdowns, no interceptions, probably a past, rating well north of 110 would be my guess. I'd say P scales up to 8.5 because if I had to do an AFC power
Starting point is 00:28:12 rankings, the Patriots would be the only team above the Bengals right now. I think it's like you get Tyler Eifford finally being what they thought it would be and Marvin Jones is back. That's a much better situation. And Gino Atkins again. There you go. On the other side of the ball, promising game, I think for spice rack purposes,
Starting point is 00:28:28 Wes has some type of friend or confidant or mentor. I don't know what's going on this. He's like 10 years younger than me. This dude, named Spicerack. He lives in an underground bunker in Vegas. Correct me whenever I'm wrong with any of this info. He manages, or he doesn't manage, he's part of the marquee day club, nightclub in Vegas. Okay. The way that... Gotcha. That didn't go with the narrative. Sorry. The way that Mike Shanahan staked his reputation to John Beck, that's what Spice Rack did with Melvin Gordon.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And he had a nice little game, his second game, 98 total yards on 17 touches, made some guys miss, made some nice plays. And one other note from this game, Keenan Allen. who had 15 catches, obviously, in week one, crashed down to Earth. His first touch was a muffed fumble that led to a touchdown. He had two catches for 16 yards. So a big takeaway, Chargers, they're an okay team with the Bengals. They look like a very good team.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Get excited, Cincinnati. Jake Kirkpatrick talking some trash on Keenan Allen after the game, saying how he shut him down. And Kirkpatrick is part of the reason this Bengals defense. It doesn't seem to matter who's coaching them or what the personnel is. their cornerbacks always play really well. One other note about Phil Rivers he passed Dan Fouts as their franchise leader
Starting point is 00:29:41 in touchdown passes, and he sniffed. He didn't get there in NFL record. He had 22 completions in a row carrying over from week one. I'm surprised that didn't happen earlier with Fouts. I'm just looking forward to the Chargers getting revenge on Westavis. This is going to be a rematch Saturday afternoon.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Sign it up, NBC. Chargers, Bengals. Going back to 2014 now. I remember that way. It's actually going to be back. Chargers will be the wild card, the Bengals. It'll be Bengals Jets, and it'll be just like 2009 with Bengals gag away winnable game. Oh, Shawnee Green ran all over.
Starting point is 00:30:11 He did. All right, moving forward. Hey, Mark Sessler. Johnny Football lives. The Brown's quarterback connected on a pair of long touchdowns to break out wide receiver. Yeah, I said it. Travis Benjamin in a 2814 win over the Titans. Marcus Marriota was sacked seven times in his first start since those offensive player of the week.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Honors, Wes, Brown's one and one. Mark, I know you pretend you don't care, but I know you care a lot. Wes, what did you see from these two quarterbacks? Well, Mariotta, first of all, he got confused. The Brown's defensive front owned the line of scrimmage. They had constant pressure on Mariotta. And I think last week he saw all these soft spots in the Buccaneer zone. This week he had to go up against man-to-man bump and run.
Starting point is 00:30:56 There was no separation. He held the ball too long. He got hit a lot. His ball security was really bad. So it was, you know, he showed some toughness and coming back with a couple of touchdown drives in the second half, but definitely a step back for Marioita. What about Manzell?
Starting point is 00:31:12 Manzell had the two long touchdown passes to Travis Benjamin, and Benjamin also had a punt return touchdown. But in between those two plays, Manzell didn't do much. I believe he only had 60-something or 70-something yards on the rest of the game. And some of that was the coaching, too. Some of that was the play calling. But I would say Manzell did not.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I would, he's not, we heard from NFL media insider Ian Rappaport before the game that McCown is entrenched as a starter, and I don't think that anything Mansell did upset that. That would be absolutely crazy to me. Because, yeah, maybe he didn't play well other than those two long touchdowns. Crazy with Ron James, too. Right. But he still did, though. He threw two long touchdown passes, and he got the, he has the city excited about him.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Why would you put in Josh McCown when you're a rebuilding team or a team building towards something when you have Manzell who's making positive strides? Well, I think you could chalk up those two big plays to flukes. And if you do that, then he really didn't do anything again. You could say that for a lot, I think. Right, but they are, is that a repeatable thing? I mean, he hit Benjamin last week. Benjamin's the first player with four 50-yard touchdowns
Starting point is 00:32:15 in the first two weeks of the season since Jim Brown in 1963. Well, you were telling me Mansell freelanced a little bit on that last play. And I don't know if that's repeatable or not, but he's done it a couple straight weeks. Well, no, Petten said in the press conference that at one point on the second touchdown that Mansell threw, that he broke out of whatever was going on. He absolutely did. And he launched a touchdown, and the offensive coordinator, John D. Philippo basically just said in the headset,
Starting point is 00:32:40 he was like, well, coaching doesn't mean anything. Because it's like he just, once the thing breaks down. Mark watching the Mike Patton press conference. No, I saw it in the email system. Conscious uncouple. He's got a big smile on the night. You got to admit. This is a great day for money.
Starting point is 00:32:54 No, because the flip side of this game is, if you're Cleveland is Terrence West runs for 140 yards, Marriota throws eight more touchdowns, but their defense actually showed up. You watched it. You can tell, did the defense look good or not? They look fantastic. There's a glint in Mark's eyes today.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Not only the Browns win and don't let anybody fool you, that means a lot to him. He got Rex eating humble pie, which you love. That might mean more. Yeah, the Ravens going down in flames. That might mean more. Everything coming up, Cessler on this Sunday. I don't buy that.
Starting point is 00:33:23 You're talking about that you're already trying to change the narrative. You were saying you weren't really getting off the Browns train. It was just you didn't like people coming up to you at the office and talking Brown. When you make a decision that is emotional, well, hold on. When you make a decision that's very emotional, which this was, you start to unpack it as the days go on after. And what I am realizing that I enjoy, and it might be because we switch seats in our office. But I don't have anyone coming up to me every two minutes being like, ooh, the Browns suck. Well, that's not because they don't know that you gave up on a scene.
Starting point is 00:33:53 This is what's problematic about that narrative, is that Mark's saying he now quit the Browns because too many people are asking him about the Browns. No, because in the office, it is an incredibly tedious thing to do. No, come on, tell the truth. You're back on. You're a text when you broke up with them were about not making bold moves and not going to get Chris Carter. I wanted Duran Carter. I want a Kristen, I want a Christy Mike. And you said you were out, and you said it was about 30 years of abuse, and now it's about Ali Bombardi downstairs coming up to you and saying, hey, how about those Browns?
Starting point is 00:34:25 Well, listen, the office environment is tough when you're rooting for a perennial nightmare. Well, none of you guys picked them, right? No one did. This was a game that they really needed. I mean, it sounds stupid, but it's the second week of the season. You don't want to go 0 and 2. You don't want to lose to a team like the Titans on the home. A lot of people assumed that they would lose this game,
Starting point is 00:34:44 and the defense is just what this team has to be all about. Played great. All right. Calm down, Greg. Well, Marcus Marriota came down to Earth a little bit. James Winston had a nice bounceback week in his second start, the number one overall pick. play Drew Breeze in the Superdome.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And the Bucks bounced back with a 2619 win over the winless Saints. Wes, this was the Winston and the Bucks hoped to see when they took him with that number one pick. It did take much to help play Drew, Drew Breeze in this game. And, you know, the Saints secondary was just what the doctor ordered for James Winston. Because the Saints secondary is probably the worst in the NFL. They're terrible. Winston had a couple of good throws. The touchdown division Jackson right before halftime, beautiful throw over two defenders.
Starting point is 00:35:28 and then he threw off one foot 54 yards down the field to Lewis Murphy when Delvin Bro lost the ball in the lights. The same Delvin Bro, hey, bro, who had four penalties in his first game. Delvin, Bro, and Damien Swann. Not your big factor. Not exactly Manyfield in Dixon. What up, bro? Hey, question, Wes, because Drew Breeze, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:54 we were talking in the offseason how maybe he wasn't quite as good as he was a couple years earlier. and now he doesn't have a great offense around him anymore in some ways or not as good as it's been in recent years is it fair to start the discussion whether Drew Breeze is an irreversible steep decline well I thought it was fair until you said steep okay he's of course it's fair to say
Starting point is 00:36:15 he's an irreversible decline because he's an aging player well not in today's NFL Tom Brady's playing like he's 24 Tom Brady's a better player than Drew Breeze and always has been I'm sorry this is one of those teams and I talked about it a little at the top of the show that the season is getting late fast. They're going to Carolina next week. They're o' and two.
Starting point is 00:36:36 This is a team kind of like the Eagles that most of us picked to win the division. This is a really rough loss and they need to start winning games fast. It's pretty ugly to lose to the bunch. It's not all on Breeze. They don't trust their wide receivers there, you can tell. Willie Sneed is getting
Starting point is 00:36:51 the ball as much as anybody. And Dan, have you ever heard of a gentleman named Jaquiz Smith? Yeah, actually. No, I've never heard of him. He's not in the NFL. He had three sacks today on Drew Brees. One question, though, because the Bucks coming out for last week, and obviously we realized when we overreacted to a number of narratives coming out of week one, but their defense looked like an absolute train wreck,
Starting point is 00:37:11 about to give up 600 points this season. And then you shut down New Orleans. I understand it's not the offense of a couple years ago, but in New Orleans, who's now lost six straight at home, how did the Bucks defense do that? Bucks came to play. They should get credit for that. But I think the Saints were, it's the same. lays they had last year where they're just off kilter and it seems like they're not even like
Starting point is 00:37:32 you know we heard we heard it attributed to junior galette being a punk basically in a bad influence in the locker room that's why things didn't work out last year they're not playing any differently that falls on sean payton in my book well and rob ryan i mean this this feels like when i'm reading the uh the game stories that it wasn't a game that the defense blew i mean they kept turning they kept getting the ball back for the saints offense that if anything it was the saint's offense which lost everybody everybody every Everybody's at fault. Breeze had a really bad interception after he had his right shoulder hit. So he was actually trying to loosen up his shoulder. So he gets blamed for that. They get the ball back with three minutes left and Ingram fumbles after he had played a pretty good game. So there's all kinds of blame to go around on this safety. Let's talk about another team that is undefeated after two weeks. Carson Palmer threw for four touchdowns. Three. Chris wrestling to the ageless Larry Fitzgerald and the Cardinals cruise to a 4823 win over the Chicago Bears at Soldier Field. We have injury news out of this game.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Jay Cutler strained his hamstring. And really, you know, Jay Cutler way, it was chasing down a defender after an interception that went for a touchdown. So he was replaced by Matt Claussen, who is pretty much inept in many, many ways. What did I say? Matt Clausen. Might as well be Matt Clos. You can put him in his brother. It would have been the same thing.
Starting point is 00:38:50 So, yes, the Bears, to me, and no one is a fan of Jay Cutler, especially the denizens of Chicago. but put Matt Clausen in there for multiple weeks. The Bears become... Matt Closson. Who is Matt Closson? You're thinking of Matt Slosson. If you put Carl Closson in there, they are going to be one of the worst teams in the league.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Is that one of your uncles? Yes. Dave Johnson, by the way? David. I call him Dave. Just keep rolling. Immediate difference maker. 108-yard kickoff return to start the game. He had another...
Starting point is 00:39:22 He had a 13... What? What's so funny? 13-yard touch. run his first three touches as a pro all touchdown so that guy's saucy broke a record first player in history to score kickoff return pass and run in his first two games matt you put matt closson and uh dave johnson on the field the same things are going to get a little crazy doug clauson jimmy johnson put him there um so yeah and finally carson palmer by the way looks good doesn't he was he hurt was he ever hurt i don't know he looks like exactly the same guy
Starting point is 00:39:56 Carl Palmer is one of the best quarterbacks the Cardinals have ever had. It's certainly the best quarterback since Kurt Warner. So this team, you know, a team around the NFL, we flirted with them earlier. We got a little off of them as the preseason wound up. And I think there should be some thought again about the Arizona Cardinals in this.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Number one on my list. Well, we should have done it last year. Bruce Ariens is our spirit animal. And he went for it today. Wes, you can't say that because we wanted them last year. We wanted them last year. I wanted him last year. This whole name is, but you're phony.
Starting point is 00:40:32 You're phony. I am not the only one. Some listener needs to find the tape. We need a listener. If you are a listener out there that can find Wes shooting down the Cardinals and send it to us, TD will send you money. I'm on board this year. To all those people who didn't think that Larry Fitzgerald could still play,
Starting point is 00:40:47 eat it. By the way, Jimmy Closson, QBR of 3.2, so Sam Bradford was not the biggest stinker this week. That's a good ERA. All right, let's move on to the San Francisco 49ers who are, you know, back to the earth. They are living in this world now. It's good.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Terra firma. This is another way to call it. I'm a big fan of it. Who knows? Ben Rafflesberger threw for 369 yards and three touchdowns. Antonio Brown did Antonio Brown things, which means nine catches for 195 and the score. A 4318 win for the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Mark, the Steelers buried all those good vibes around the Niners, didn't they? This game was over so quickly. They really had their way with the Niners defense, which I thought after what we saw last week, the one thing I thought that would stick with San Francisco was their attacking defense that went after people.
Starting point is 00:41:38 They had nothing to give the Steelers. The Steelers also did something unusual. I think it's the first team that really reacted aggressively to the extra point rule, or they don't at all trust Josh Scobie, which makes sense. Who will be cut tomorrow, probably? Honestly, he might be. They went for two
Starting point is 00:41:54 two-point conversions on back-to-back touchdown drives, made both, got up 16-0-0 early, scored another touchdown, finally wheeled out Scobie to kick the extra point. Literally in a wheelchair. They roll them in. They wheeled them out. The extra point ruled, damn, that you don't like.
Starting point is 00:42:10 It's making it a little more exciting crazy numbers on the board. It makes me hate the NFL now because all these missed extra points. There are now more missed extra points this year through not even week two finished than all of last season. How exciting. If it leads to more teams going for it on two, then I could be sold on it, but I haven't seen it for more than one team. Well, I can see more teams doing it against the Niners. They, after, like, they put Teddy Bridgewater in hot water. I thought he played one of his worst games as a pro. We all thought that zero sacks, zero quarterback hits today against the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:42:41 30 Peter? How about Ben Rothesburg? He's part of the reason. In this game alone, he had completions of 56, 59, 48, 41, and 35. Wow! Some old school stuff, and he only threw 27 passes. He is the best vertical passer in the NFL. You know, it's the old Zucer's MVP pick. That's a good pick. Sossy. Might not be wrong. Let's, we talked about the 49ers defense.
Starting point is 00:43:05 The defense I want to know about it as a Steelers, they need Ryan Shazir to be a stud. Give me an update on him. Shazir look great. And it's speed translated. I think they had five sacks today. And, I mean, the defense in Pittsburgh, I think it's going to be a week-to-week thing
Starting point is 00:43:19 because they're not going to match up well with some teams. They're secondary. is still an issue, but the 49ers are not a team that can go in and take care of a secondary. And Kaepernick wound it up. You wound up with 335 yards, but that was all garbage timing. They had the team had 33 yards passing at the
Starting point is 00:43:34 half. Had it a lot to do with Pittsburgh, putting pressure on them from start. Cesarin, now they're making the leap candidate. We're at fire. And that's what I was saying on our last show. All the Steelers need to be is like an average defense. They don't need to be great. They can't be terrible. But if they're okay, the offense will carry the day. One last thing before we move on,
Starting point is 00:43:50 we get our good friend, the talented Colleen Wolfe in the studio is Team of ATL or ATN. We were pumped up about the Niners. Titans? And the Titans. And now we need to take a step back from the Niners and see what happens next week.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I think it depends what we're looking for. If we're looking for a team that's going to, without question, go 12 and 4, then it's going to eliminate a ton of teams. I don't want that. We don't need a stud playoff team. I don't need a playoff team. I need them to be funded.
Starting point is 00:44:22 to watch. Well, you wouldn't have had fun watching. My number one through six qualifications. Well, then the Niners in your book would not have. That was my hesitation when I blocked it last week. All right. We will now. T.L.
Starting point is 00:44:36 This is a very special honor. All right. Speaking of special honors, up next coming into the studio, she is Colleen Wolf. And there she is. Hey. Wow. What is up? The Wolf woman.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Just materializing out of nowhere. Welcome. I have energy after a, Woman. I've been drinking lots of coffee. We've been drinking too. Tons of coffee. We've been drinking as well, not getting into it.
Starting point is 00:44:59 You spent your day, you were over doing the couch show. What's it called NFL Game Day Blitz? Yes. 2000. It is. Dot com. Dot com. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:08 So I actually sat in for NFL Now. It's an NFL Now program where you are kind of just, you're moderating things, if you were. Yeah. We're watching all sorts of games. We're going over social media. All day long Sunday during the game. There was even... Seven hours.
Starting point is 00:45:24 There was beer that came in at one point. Did they bring the pizza girl in this time? I noticed last week they had her on my house. Oh, he was the pizza girl, Rosie. It's a woman, by the way, Mark. Well, she was a girl. She was like 16, I think. She was a young.
Starting point is 00:45:38 For multiple establishes. And strawberries. Pizza pot. Yeah, you did a great job. So we haven't had Colleen in here in a while. We figured let's get her in on Sunday. She can help us out with some of these games. a friend of the show
Starting point is 00:45:53 what are the best friends of the show I'd say so you want to get going? Let's do it. It is a sweet moment, sweet gesture by the old Zooser. Let's go on we'll start at the Meadowlands where Julio Jones my goodness had 13 receptions his final catch
Starting point is 00:46:09 a 37-yarder to set up the go-ahead touchdown with less than two minutes to play and the Falcons moved to 2-0 with a 2420 win over the Giants Colleen for the second straight week the Giants found him wait a choke blow it gag it's crazy i mean at least they're being creative at this point finding new ways to lose eli the thing is the giant's defense late in games is just they're just
Starting point is 00:46:35 letting the opposing offense just march right down the field without really any resistance at all that's sort of what we saw but also eli he had two crucial errors on that final drive He overthrew to Beckham, and then he really missed on a toss to Larry Donnell. Both guys were wide open. They also got killed by a drop on the last play of the game. Yeah. But even that pass wasn't great, so Eli, for the second street week, it could have been better when the games counted the most.
Starting point is 00:47:07 How about the Falcons team's actually, you know, fun to watch, and they're winning games late in games. They're managing situations. Well, it's like the anti- Mike Smith Falcons, essentially, which were not fun to watch. Well, I mean, if anyone who likes football if they logged on to our website and read the bold predictions,
Starting point is 00:47:23 you knew that Julio Jones was going to go off. Wait, you predicted that Julio Jones would have a good game? Yeah, it's really out there. How did you do it? Outlier type prediction. He said 250 yards. Well, a little bit off.
Starting point is 00:47:33 And he did. Well, my prediction that him and Odell Beckham would kind of balance each other out was kind of correct, too. Beckham had about 130 yards at the half in a touchdown. I don't think he did much in the second half, did he?
Starting point is 00:47:43 No, I don't think he got the ball once. 146 total. And, you know, I grew up with almost all Giants fans. I was, there were not a lot of Jets fans in the town I grew up in for whatever reason. It was still funny. It was. It was smart. It was. Very smart. Listen, I don't know how this happened to me. The story of overcoming adversity.
Starting point is 00:48:01 It is. What do you know about anything, Greg? Other than your band Delaware failing in a big spot. Wow. How dare you? No, but I got the text I got from Giants fans again. For the Second Street Week for my friends, they are, listen, they are on a deadly watch. But I'll say this about the Giants. As bad as things are, they should be 2-0, their O-N-2.
Starting point is 00:48:20 It's so like we talked about the Cowboys and the Eagles, and this is a wide-open division, even at O-N-2. It is. And, I mean, we did see Eric Flowers go down, their first-round draft pick. You want to make flowers? Already in there for, we'll be. Dan, they have dropped now. I can't, every time I hear that drop, it skews me out still.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I can't even hear it. It's a good reason. So that offensive line, obviously, not looking good with Flowers down. and Julio Jones, after the game, by the way, I don't know if you heard this quote from him, but he was asked about that one amazing catch that he had, and his response was, which one? Seriously, I feel like all of them are amazing when I catch the ball.
Starting point is 00:49:01 You know, that's not become. That should have come from O'Dell Beckham. Yeah. Are you sure that wasn't from ODB? It was not. Julio, that's not becoming. You don't hear him. It's great.
Starting point is 00:49:11 I like, it's like something you would hear on ballers. It's much better. than like hearing Russell Wilson talk for five minutes and say nothing. This is what you do when you sign a huge contract and then you back it up with two monster games instead of getting hurt like that. You don't like ballers, do you?
Starting point is 00:49:25 I don't like ballers. I do like Julio's comments, though. I prefer that to West's point. Then Russell, like, you know, one day. Russell Wilson, your favorite player. Yes, I mean. We weren't there. Julio could have been saying it with a wink.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I imagine he was. Colleen wouldn't mislead us like that. Now, Ralph Vachiano. Is that how you say it from the New York News? Ralph Vaciano. I know. He's right for that. Got to say it the Italian way.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Yes, Kevin Coleman also hurt in this game. Really? Yeah. Seriously? I mean, at was he? He left. He rips. Does anyone sound more like an early 90s pop star than Kevin Coleman?
Starting point is 00:49:57 The failed pop star. Happy Campbell, baby. All right, let's move on. Rookie Matt Jones ran for 123 yards and two touchdowns. And the Redskins played a solid defense and a 24-10 win over the Rams on Sunday and Landover. That's where they play. A little tip.
Starting point is 00:50:13 FedEx Field. Mark, coming off a week one win over the Seahawks, this is just about the most Ramsey move the Rams could have done here. Typical, stink it out, less need cut your hair. Well, credit to Dan, because Dan, you were saying all along that whatever happened in week one with the Rams, very typical home thing, go beat the Seahawks, get everyone over-excited, including our boss who employs us.
Starting point is 00:50:37 I'm still excited. Well, you were excited. But Dan was the one who said they're going to go eight at eight or seven and nine, no matter how you lay it out. and they could not handle it today because I think they came up against a Redskins team that I looked at before the season and thought these guys could go 2 and 14
Starting point is 00:50:51 because there's chaos at the quarterback position. I don't trust Jay Gruden and I don't trust the defense. But instead, what they built, I think, is a much tougher defensive line than what they had last year. They absolutely controlled the line of scrimmage. They shut down the Rams to about 200 total yards or so.
Starting point is 00:51:07 And in the first half, St. Louis could do absolutely nothing. And Matt Jones and the Redskins running game, they look spicy they want to talking this up Matt Jones you were they want to win
Starting point is 00:51:17 like Rex Ryan they want to run the ball play good defense and hide their quarterback a little bit today was perfect to play a little devil's advocate there
Starting point is 00:51:26 you know eternally Jekyll and Hyde Dolphins team they beat in week one now they beat the Rams are always up and down lots of the dolphins played good on defense
Starting point is 00:51:35 right right but you don't make the dolphin you don't know if the dolphins were playing well or not you know the dolphins you never can tell
Starting point is 00:51:41 I want to see them put it together against teams on a grander scale before I decide that Washington has a good D this year. But off to a way better start than a lot of people thought. Yeah, I mean, they're giving up 141 yards total on the ground in two games. I think the thing is also, we just talked about it. In the NFC East, the Eagles are extremely schizophrenic. The Cowboys have lost their best, their quarterback, and their best receiver.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Are you saying the Redskins are in the mix for the NFC East title? How are they not? A 9-17 could win this division. Got a Cessler about that? No. I just say, you know, scientifically it seems possible. Do you trust more. Are this Redskins team that's shut and fools down
Starting point is 00:52:14 or Brandon Whedoneton? Well, I trust Kurt Cousins a lot more than Whedon. The Cousins looks fine. They're not, you know, let's see it do it with other quarter. Well, the Seahawks didn't do that. It said Shut and fools down. I mean, especially if you look at the Rams, they beat the Seahawks in week one.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And when you're looking at the matchup, heading into this week, you think the Rams can definitely take this game. This is a big loss for them. Oh, it's killer. Four incompletions for Kirk Cousins. I mean, that's a very positive, clean day from your boy. He was very clean, clean, And the other thing is, I thought watching the Rams during the week
Starting point is 00:52:44 that the defensive line was going to absolutely have cousins shattered by the end of this game. Two sacks, they held them under control, and they did a nice quick passing arrangement where cousins got the ball out quick to running backs. Jordan Reed looked good too. With this offensive line that everyone was convinced was going to be a train wreck, and RG3 was the problem, not the offensive line. Moving on, Jason Myers kicked the 28-yard field goal with one minute and eight seconds to play. The difference maker in a Jaguars, 33.
Starting point is 00:53:12 3.30 win over those Miami Dolphins. Blake Bortles looked like the preseason Bordels throwing for 273 yards and two touchdowns. Greg, reason for legitimate optimism in Jacksonville? Any win is reason for optimism. I was ready
Starting point is 00:53:28 to call the Jagoo. I'm not trying to be a jerk. I'm serious. You're a fan the whole off season. You look forward to these days. You're at home against a pretty decent dolphins team. You've got to enjoy this moment. I don't think it means that the Jaguar are necessarily going places. But I think for the second straight week,
Starting point is 00:53:46 their defense has been greater than the sum of its parts. They fly around, a lot of energy. And Blake Bortles, and the offense definitely took a big step forward compared to last week. They had one great half and one terrible half,
Starting point is 00:53:57 which was better than just a really terrible game, which they had a week ago. They didn't do anything in the second half. But Bortles, when he got the ball back with about two and a half minutes to go, he led them on a game-winning field goal drive,
Starting point is 00:54:07 and the way we go. That's progress. Finally, you go to Jacksonville, and there's something to do other than to get into that tub thing with the clear side where it's like everyone can see what you're wearing. That's so gross. That's odd.
Starting point is 00:54:18 That's odd. I love Bortals played better than his numbers last week. A little bit. But he also misses throws by, like, he missed five or six throws every game, and he did it today, too, by about 10, 15 yards. The Albano Tiger played. Marquise Lee. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:54:32 There's a siding. Did he do anything? No. He did one catch for 12 yards. Alan Robinson had 156 yards and two touchdowns before halftime, which was outrageous. He didn't have anything in the side. second half. But for a half, this was a really fun quarterback battle between young, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:48 young rising quarterbacks in theory, Tannahill and Bortles. And then in the second half, neither one could move the ball really after one guy. And also Julius Thomas is not in the lineup. I think that part of, they had a huge plans for him and they're not able to do what they want without him without them there. But this is the kind of offense. It's one of these teams and I don't want to get back on this bandwagon. So I've done this five times with the Jaguars. But no, but they've got the pieces in place. And maybe they're the kind of. by December. It's not the record, but we're saying there's something going on. Well, I think Alan Robinson's a potential story. Anything to say about your boy, by the way, Ryan Tannihill,
Starting point is 00:55:19 Greg? He was one of the more positive aspects for the Dolphins, but I'd be really... Brandon Albert went down. I'd be really worried that they lost their... I saw what happened last year. I mean, they couldn't run the ball at all without him. He left in the second quarter. The game changed when he left. Lamar Miller ends up with 14 yards. Tannehill got sacked when the replacement for Albert gave up a ball. line side sack, and it could have been really a game-ending touchdown. Jason Fox. It didn't work out that way.
Starting point is 00:55:46 And I'd worry a little bit about, how about this defensive line for Miami that was supposed to be so great. And Domic and Sue had no impact in the game. They had no sacks. The Jaguress had given up four, at least four sacks in a game for a really long streak. That's disgraceful. They had no sacks and barely got to quarters at all. That's disgraceful.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Indamacin Sue is getting paid like a billion dollars a snap and he can't even get to the quarterback. Where's Cameron Wake? This is the same old Miami Dolphins. And I was on the couch show. Sorry. Scary, Colleen. This is the, this is just.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Coming to Studio 66, like 11 hours into a work shit. Stuff starts to get crazy. Now I forgot what I was going to say. Oh, you're on the cow. We were talking about, yeah, disgrace. You're very and upset. The dolphins, you could get excited if you want about the dolphins, and if you are a Miami fan,
Starting point is 00:56:34 I know handsome Hank is in this building. But can you picture Joe Philbin hoisting a Lombardi trophy? Not now. Of course not. So, you know, get them out of there. Get somebody in there. This was the type of game that the dolphins have continued to lose. Whenever you have a little bit of a chance of momentum, you lose to a bad team.
Starting point is 00:56:50 And Mark, pools, as I've gotten older, are becoming increasingly phobic of them. And I don't know why. Pools. Yeah. And it's mostly because of the gross human element of it and the excretion. Swim pools? Yeah, swimming pools. And can you imagine a pool set up at a stadium where people are drinking a lot of beer
Starting point is 00:57:09 and they don't want to miss any plays? Listen, I don't know. I've not been there. I don't want to. Then J.D. talks about that pool a lot. Yeah? Yeah. What did he says?
Starting point is 00:57:17 I don't know. We'll just leave. He really, he really likes the pool. Are you our NFL pool insider, Colleen Wolfe? I am. Now I am. All right, moving on. Not literally inside the pool.
Starting point is 00:57:28 No. Derek Carr, come to life, buddy. The Raiders quarterback threw for 351 yards and three touchdowns. The last, with less than a minute to play, leading the Raiders to a 37-33. Comeback win over the Raiders. was the football... Wes. Cognacente.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And perhaps some people in this very room too quick to doubt car ceiling as a pro. I'm very excited, Colleen. I can't come down. I don't think anyone in here. Somebody bring me down. Nobody wrote Derrick Carr off. It's not so much that.
Starting point is 00:57:57 I just think that we're so quick to want to judge quarterbacks in general and it's like he's still growing. I think there's some of the flaws that we saw in Derrick Carr, that Greg, you saw flaws. And they're still there. But as a term... You're taking shots at me.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Well, you... I get it. Let's just say it for what it is. You don't like Derek Carr. You don't like Derek Carr. I thought he didn't show much last year to be excited about. I think it helps now that you have Amari Cooper who did a lot because Amari Cooper automatically is taking away your top people in the secondary and guys like Michael Crabtree at his first 100-yard game
Starting point is 00:58:30 since in two years. I remember that guy. Yeah. I mean, he looked fine. And honestly, the Raiders to me with Derek Carr when he's playing like this against a bad defense like Baltimore look today, they're not that bad. They were watchable. It was the most exciting game I watched today.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Baltimore, a team with a bad defense? They're coming off a great performance. Their defense today, I want to find out I want to watch it again. I want to see what happened because it was an absolutely rough situation. So they couldn't get to Derrick Carr, they couldn't cover anyone. He threw the ball and marched the team down the field
Starting point is 00:59:00 inside two minutes for the win. That's not what we think of the Ravens. Well, it's a valid point that we're too quick to write off young quarterback. I think it's also a valid point. we're too quick to give them tons of credit after one decent game. All right. Well, then it's somewhere in the middle, but he's actually played well today.
Starting point is 00:59:16 But you know, when you're talking about, you know, Cooper and Crabtree having a good game and Latavius Mervia running back, I mean, I'm thinking between these two teams, who has the better weapons? And it's not even close. Derek Carr has much better weapons than Flacco, which is a big problem if you're Joe Flacco and the O and two Ravens. Does Joe Flacco get an excuse when he missed a wide-open Steve Smith on a thread? No, I'm not talking about excuse.
Starting point is 00:59:37 I'm just talking about it's a problem for this team. And now that they're o' and two, both games on the road. How about Crockett Gilmore, guys? He looked fantastic. And you know what? He looked great in the preseason. Yeah. And I honestly think outside of Steve Smith, he's their best weapon right now.
Starting point is 00:59:50 I mean, they don't have something. They don't want to know what he made plays. He looked great today. I was a huge Crockett fan. I just, his name is so good. He made plays. All Crockett all the time. You couldn't come up with a worse defense against tight ends right now.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Look what Tyler Eifford did in the first game. This secondary is right up there with the Saints is the worst in the league. Well, and that's why all. I mean, Flacco and Mark Tressman can walk away disappointed, but he threw for 384 yards. And the problem is that teams are going to do this to the Raiders all season long. Oh, yeah. It's a big win for the Raiders, though.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Coming off, what was an embarrassing loss in week one in your building when you go down 33-0 to start? Bounce back with the win, get some hope back in the building. Good. And by the way, the yelling, I recently enrolled in the Trent Dilfer School of Broadcasting. Yeah, well, listen, you're flying through that course. You're a precocious student. So glad we're sitting next to each other.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Yes, the program. The program is very thorough, and it involves a lot of yelling. I'm indoctrinated. All right. Moving on. A crazy thing happened to the Vikings on Sunday. They gave the ball to Adrian Peterson, and good things happened. The running back totaled 192 total yards and 31 touches.
Starting point is 01:00:53 26-16 win over the Detroit Lions. Colleen, AP should be touching that ball 30 times every game, right? He should. I mean, we saw last week he had 13 touches, and he got 31 rushing yards. This was such a different script this week. And, well, there were a couple of bad things as well with Adrian Peterson. He had two fumbles and he missed some blocks. I could think of another bad thing with Adrian Peterson.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Well, we're not going to go there just today on the field. Okay. But, you know, he, in the second quarter, I think he had just, what was it, three carries, one yard. But, I mean, you have to give him the ball because it takes pressure off Teddy Bridgewater. And he had a much better game today. 14 for 18, 153 yards and a touchdown, a much different quarterback than we saw. in the first game where he just looked very skittish and unsure of himself. With Teddy Bridgewater, I'm looking at the numbers not outside of Peterson had 58 yards.
Starting point is 01:01:47 No receiver had more than 38 yards receiving. It's like Mike Zimmer's dream, a game that you don't need to do that. Do they run the ball? They ran them all 40-something time. The defense just dominates so much. Where's your boy, Charles Johnson, Mark? He's not showing up in this box score, so I'm going to have to wait a week on that enthusiasm. The Lions team of ATL, they're on life support.
Starting point is 01:02:10 They're 0.2. Listen to their next three games. Versus Broncos at Seattle versus Cardinals. By the way, they also play. They play in a dome, so they need to be super exciting for us to get all that situation. They have inherent failure DNA. Why do you want to get behind a team that you know
Starting point is 01:02:30 is going to blow games consistently throughout the season? You're out, Lions. The Lions running backs had 12 carries and 18 rushing yards. And if you remember, the Vikings defense allowed 230 rushing yards the week before. Week one to week two, weird stuff happens. Although one thing here that's consistent is the Lions' offense, of all the games that I rewatched, one of the most surprising things was how truly bad the Lions' offense was the score and the fact that the game was close against the Chargers made you think,
Starting point is 01:02:59 oh, they were okay, it was a normal Lions game. They did not look right, and now it looks like that happened two straight weeks. What do we get from Calvin Johnson coming off a bad game in the week one? He had 10 catches and a touchdown in this one. That's good. A week before, only two catches. So he was more involved, at least. Matthew Stafford, you're leading rush.
Starting point is 01:03:15 He got problems. He was hit eight times. Like, he had a tough day in the pocket. All right. Before we just backtrack one game, I saw this on Twitter, I think it was an ESPN stat. The Raiders, Jaguars, Browns, Buccaneers, and Redskirts. all won today. That is the first time that has ever happened in NFL history.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Really? No wonder marks in a good mood. No, I saw that tweet, and I was like, wait, is this a joke from ESPN stats and info? And it's not. And it's, I mean, it is maybe six of the worst teams in football, and they haven't for a long time. Well, and the Jaguars haven't been around that long. So that comes a weird 20 years now. It's a weird stat.
Starting point is 01:03:54 I don't know, like, if you put combinations of any five teams that you might come up with some weird consecutive streak. but it did feel like a day we've been talking about this that a lot of the week one narratives are flipped and there are very few teams that don't have something to feel good about going into week three. The lions are one of them, though. That sounds like a really horrific
Starting point is 01:04:14 assignment to foist upon our stats and info department. Find us a combination of five teams, as many combinations as you can find. It's a stat of infamy. All right. I like this kind of party. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Thanks, Mike Singletary. And finally, Cam Newton passed for 195 yards. Oh, boy. Ran for 77 more in the Carolina defense held at the end of the game, a 24-17 win over the winless Houston Texans, who do not look like a hard-knock's team that's going to be hoisted in the Lombardi. It's never happened. Colleen, Newton doesn't have great weapons,
Starting point is 01:04:49 but the Panthers are off to a 2-0 start. I mean, it really is all right now on Cam's shoulders. Did you see the flip into the end zone over Rahim Moore? It's demoralizing. But with, you know, lasting talent. Yeah. By the way, if you're watching us on YouTube, you could check that play out. Also, Camden said about that flip.
Starting point is 01:05:11 After the game, he said, my heart was in my socks. As I was flipping, I was like, hey, I don't know how this is going to end. So that's comforting when... What a bloody mess. He is basically carrying the team. Yeah. But not, I mean, hey, the Panthers, they average 5.2 yards per carry as well. but Cam was also their lead rusher with 76 yards.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Wow, two very ugly moments in this game. One, A.J. Klein, big interception in the second half, and some of the crowd for the Panthers chanted, cheered to Luke. Luke E. Clay has a concussion. Oh, no. Bad profiling, bros in the crowd. Well, both quarterbacks finish the game in the gather show. Total profile.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Other one, Ryan Mallett, doing the Superman celebration. Let's talk about that. When they're down seven points. in the four minutes left in the game. Why is he doing that? He's doing that to come at Cam? Well, he scored a touchdown and he did the Superman pose. But at the time, it's like he had had, he was, you know, playing terribly.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Yeah, he played a terrible game. I wrote, during the Hard Knocks Recaps, I wrote how part of the season was trying to figure out if his, if JJ Watts' teammates actually liked him or not or if they were just, you know, reverent to him because he was such a great player. And I concluded that I don't think he really has many friends and he's not really well-liked as a personality,
Starting point is 01:06:28 but he's so great that people come to him and talk to him about football, so he has status. There's no way anybody likes Ryan Mallet on the Texas. That guy is a jerk. Look at him. Look at him. Rip the jersey open.
Starting point is 01:06:41 One preening Schmo is enough in this game. I disagree. Mallet was the guy who wouldn't leave the old beach ball four-square game they had in the locker. I think some of the guys at the bottom of the roster like him. That's a hard-knock. I don't think Mallet is like, he's not macchiavallian enough. He's just sort of a numskill, and it's hard to dislike a numskull.
Starting point is 01:07:01 There's no way Ryan Mal will ever win five games in the NFL as a starter. I'll put a sandwich. That's a hot tag. Yeah, Bill O'Brien, give me a break. The both these quarterbacks stink. It's a tough spot because you switch quarterbacks in week two, and then Ryan Mallet has 4.2 yards per attempt. I mean, if Brian Hoyer had had this game, everyone would be calling for him to, you know, be benched.
Starting point is 01:07:22 And now Mallet has it's like, oh, what he did? I would honestly, the Broncos. did this against the Cowboys back in like 1991 in a game or 92. They rotated quarterbacks every series. I would just do it all week long every, every day. Well, I think you're getting to the point where it's going to be every game.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Ryan, why not every other game? Ryan threw 58 passes. How do you expect to ever win? You look at the first half. They had three points and 93 yards. Wow. The Panthers have successfully played the ugliest game in back-to-back weeks,
Starting point is 01:07:53 but they are 2-0 with win. I mean, this is kind of like Ron Rivera's dream. Play ugly football, only play teams in the AFC South. You know, it's perfect. Hmm. All right. It was unwatchable. That's it.
Starting point is 01:08:06 That's Sunday's schedule of the NFL. Hey, TD. How you doing, buddy? How are you doing, buddy? How is today's show? I thought it was a good show. It was so good of a show. I'm going to hit you one of these.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Oh. Got to do it. That's, TD just did the Superman thing. Got to do it. Ensuring heel status, deepens. We will be. We'll be back on... I like the third tech guy.
Starting point is 01:08:27 I could care less about TD's antics. We will be back on... That is not a tech guy, by the way, so you know. It's not a tech guy. I don't... He's working very hard. He's a creditor. He's disrespectful.
Starting point is 01:08:39 I am respectful. I don't know the exact position. He's in a technical position. He's doing an excellent job. Bill Power, technical director. That's tech! He's the TD. How am I off?
Starting point is 01:08:49 Sorry. The technical director. Okay. Let's get out of here. Let's salvage it. We have to leave. We will be back. on Tuesday. Hey, Colleen, thank you for dropping by.
Starting point is 01:08:57 This was wonderful. I think we should do this regularly. Why not? It's so nice thing. Yes. All right. So Colleen, come back next week. And we'll be back on Tuesday with a Monday night recap, all that good stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Until then, this is Dan Hansis signing off for the... Too soon on the drop there. Do that again. There we go. Yeah. Listen. All right. You got to see it up.
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