NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - What's More Likely: Training Camp Edition

Episode Date: July 21, 2017

A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Chris Wesseling, & Gregg Rosenthal – recap all the latest news from around the NFL including Mike Williams possibly needing season-ending surgery and the Panthers cutting Michael Oher. The heroes then play another edition of "What's More Likely."Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast. Sees the game of cornhole as a metaphor for life. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast presented by New Era. My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosalie. What's up, boys? Hey, Dan.

Hello. Hello. Hello. Push the show back a day to make sure all. the heroes were together. I was hoping we'd be celebrating a regular season title for the Shield after last night. But instead, another huge disappointment. Strike three, you're out.

It was one of the worst softball performances I've ever seen. The playoffs start next week. We're in the playoffs, but we lost 17 to 2. It's hard to score only two runs in softball, but it's good. I look at it like we got that game. It's better we got it out of the way last week. All we've got to do is win two games, and it suddenly it's glory. One observation with your team, having been to fewer games this year than in the past,

but I saw one game where, and we talked about this before the show, where I was walking around calling you the 89-9ers because you looked that powerful. Like the ceiling was very high, but then in other games like last night, the volatility of the team seems to be a season-long issue. Well, two big factors there. The strength of the opponent, you saw the worst team in the league. Last night we played the number one seat in the tournament. And the second thing is whether we're at full strength or not,

we were missing a couple of key people last night. It's been a very difficult season, despite our 7 and 5 record, which is fine. As the manager of the team between Wes's illness, some issues with drinking and drugs with the team. Whoa, like the 86 Mets. Yeah, we're like the 92 count. And it's true.

Legal troubles, people showing up late. Like I said, people showing up intoxicated. I'm not having a lot of fun this season. And this is one of those things where what I need to do is get to the end of the season. It happens to everyone, if you follow sports, it happens to every manager, coach. They think to themselves, let me get through the season and kind of reassess where I am. And I'm very much in that place as the skipper of the shield as we enter the play. playoffs. My heart and soul is in it, but I don't know how much longer my heart and soul could be

in it. And breaking news? Not ready to break anything yet. But Wes, I think you hit the nail on the head before the show. What we need is some, you know, a little come-to-jesus moment with several of the roster members. Let's be honest. Well, I've been playing softball for 25 years and every team I've ever been on, almost every team that every softball team has. The Phil, difference are we playing for fun or are we playing to win and the manager's job is to make as many happy as many of the people on the team happy as possible you don't answer to the one person making waves you answer to everybody so if most people want to win you try to do that if most people just want to have fun you try to do that we have a mixture of both so it makes it makes it

complicated well put Greg I'll just say you know those teams 86 Mets those Cowboys teams sometimes all you got to do is you get to the dance you get in the the big games and then all right there's been issues there's talking about flipping a switch i'm just i'm not i'm not flipping the switch winning you know what's fun you know it'll make you have fun as a skip winning two games and winning the title and that that's doable a great story that's doable how about the team catching the ball that would make me happy how about hitting a double which we didn't have yesterday we didn't have a single double we had zero extra base hits oh my god so let's they were throwing underhanded let's let's you know the flipping the switch Greg is the rookie on the

team and you have that rookie boyishness to you where no i know what sports are like we got a chance we've literally beaten the two teams that are in the playoffs with us we've beaten them so we are capable of winning those two games that's it to greg's point the team that we beat in the championship last year was better than any team we played this year yep i like the optimism from greg i it's a little exhausting gregg's optimism's a little that's not your job but it's good to have a voice like that that's the rookie i'm the grizzled veteran And I appreciate Greg's optimism, but sometimes it grinds me down. I mean, all these tired managers, they get to go to Hawaii for three weeks and ponder their future.

You get training camp and the busiest time of the year to ponder this. Exactly, which is what we're going to be talking about today with training camp now, what, a week away, basically? No, it literally started today. Arizona Cardinals have shown up for a full team practice, which starts tomorrow. Cowboys will be there tomorrow. But I mean like the league-wide where everybody's in camp. The rest of the league end the next week. All right.

So what we're going to do today is start to take a peek at the beginning of a new season. That's what I really like. Personally, I get to training camp. That's the new season. And all this other OTA stuff and mini-camps that get covered exhaustively now by the media. In the old days, that was just, you know, it's just part of like those teams are going through their motions. But now we cover that like it's part of the 27th. 17th season, which it kind of is.

But for me, now we're getting to the new season. It's time. It's going to be fun to have new stuff to talk about. That's going to happen soon. We're not there yet, though. I think more legitimate information comes in the first week of training camp than the previous four months combined. All right.

True. So we're going to play one of our favorite games, what's more likely training camp edition today? Also, we have a surprising amount of news to get to. So a lot of good stuff to talk about guys today. days we put that loss and softball behind us and we try to have a winning podcast mark let's let's attempt it i'm not against that idea never heard that i've never heard my positivity being called exhausting wow how dare you be happy it's it's been a tough season for skip and i'm not saying i'm being rational it's been a long season going third person there too i think things we're on a whole

new level of self-referential comments at this point let's do some news you're living in the past man You hung up on some clown from the 60s, man. A lot of feedback about Bozo the Clown. I am stunned, Wes, I could imagine you sitting in front of a big black and white TV with your Cowboys and Indians figures watching Bozo the Clown. You said you had no idea who it was. A lot of people were surprised. I mean, I know that Bozo is a clown.

I didn't know there was a TV show. And, I mean, I hear from Twitter that it was on WGN. The Wesleyan family did not have cable television, microwaves, call waiting. We didn't have any of that stuff in the 80s. The Westlings didn't have a call waiting? No, my dad thought it was rude. I don't know if it's a true story or just a joke, but for some reason in my mind it's a true story is the story you told about all the boys being in the basement

and like a piece of steak being thrown down the stairs once. I don't think I've ever told this story. I think you told that story. All right, let's start with a nominee for the team of, of ATL. How about that? Team of ATL. Not an official now.

We'll get to that, but I'm just as a team in the Los Angeles Chargers that have been bandied about and it's kind of funny. Well, not funny. It's a bummer, I would say, for many people connected to the team

that Mike Williams, the team's wide receiver that was drafted in the first round. Number seven overall is likely to start camp on the Pup list following a second epidural on the herniated disc in his lower back. Mike Garofolo said that the former Clemson star resumed running this week

and is feeling better after the second procedure. It was first reported by ESPN. Rapsheet reported that back surgery was on the table for Williams three or four weeks ago, but now they are hoping to avoid that with Williams improving. I said that it was kind of interesting because we were just talking about the Chargers and how they always seem to have this loaded roster and then they get ticked off one by one just get picked off and now Mike Williams is hurting. Greg, your thoughts

when you saw this. They are the most unlucky team when it comes to injuries in the NFL. The football outsider's site does a stat called injury games lost or adjusted games lost which basically determines who's lost the most games out of starters. They have been 26th

or worst for five straight years in that category. That's insane. In the last two years I believe was 31st and 30th or something like that. So that is very unlucky. That being said, Mike Williams was not a starter. I think he was going to have to really work hard to have a

role. Obviously, you'd love a top 10 pick to be a big time factor, but they are very deep at wide receiver. This just gives them less, you know, room to have another injury. I mean, every time a wide receiver catches the ball just about he gets hit, a herniated disc is not ideal for a wide receiver. It's very serious for him

for Mike Williams. And you have to wonder if the Chargers knew this, if they knew it was still giving an issue in August, or late July, would they have drafted it? No. I mean, it feels like they didn't know about this when they drafted him. He came to the team with this first rookie minicam practice, he gets hurt. And yes, they are deep at wide receiver.

But you're absolutely right with last year's chargers decimated by injury. They still scored over 400 points on offense. They could easily score 450 plus this year. And it's just a shame. You'd like to see them, you go out and you make this pick. Last year they didn't have Bosa all summer, and it was a huge deal. and then he came back and he dominated. It's hard to imagine that with this kind of an injury for a wider season.

And we've seen it with first round wide receivers in recent years who don't get on the field in the offseason. Even if he gets ready, it's like, is he really going to be a factor? Josh Dotson was one. Kevin White was another. Like, it's hard for them to catch up. Bad luck is obviously one way to put it,

but is it possible also the chargers organizationally maybe they're not doing something right. This is happening every single year. They must have looked into this. because that conditioning now is gone into new scientific realms. If they're behind on that level, it's their own fault. But I would imagine they're researching this endlessly. Their trainers had some red flags over the years in terms of negative changes.

Well, that's true. It's not working. Whatever is going on. The good news in the wide receiver corps for the Chargers is that Keenan Allen is healthy after suffering that ACL injury last year. and Philip Rivers was on the Rich Eisen Show last week and had this to say of Keenan Allen. He looks like himself.

I really think he looks just as good as before he got hurt. Should I sound the trope alert? I think it's worth it. That is on the trope glossary, by the way. Veteran X declares he's more explosive than ever after suffering devastating lower body injury, which is more or less what Keenan Allen went through. They need him to be Keenan Allen of old.

Well, Philip Rivers also said you'll see the same guy trot out there as last September, and just under two quarters of the season opener, he toyed with Marcus Peters, one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL. Keenan Allen was a legitimate number one receiver before that ACL injury. They need him. I mean, I've been talking about all this depth, but it sort of has to, like Tyrell Williams works kind of as a number two. Benjamin works as a number three.

You got the two tight ends. Alan is the key to it. If he gets hurt again, then suddenly they're not that exciting that receiver. Moving on, the Panthers, their general, is he an interim general monitor? Yes. Still a little weird, though. I find it very odd. Fired him, replaced him, fired the guy they replaced him and now brought him back.

Especially when he was. New York Knicks stuff. He was essentially a punchline when he got fired last time around. Created total cap hell, and now it's, oh, well, we're going back to the culture that we long for under Marty Herney. It's like within three days, suddenly Geddellman, David Geddellman is turning to this villain. How about the guy that actually got you out of Capel and made one great draft pick after the next?

We're going back to Marty Herney? Going back to your ex. Anyway, so Marty, the ex, is back in the house. He's living in the spare bedroom, looking to wake his way back to the regular bedroom. But in his now capacity as interim GM, he struck a deal Thursday with contract year guard, Trey Turner, and it's a four-year deal worth $45 million with $20.5 million guaranteed, according to Rapsheet.

That is very good money. Your thoughts on this, Mark Sessel, you wrote it up on NFL.com. I did with Connor Oar on vacation and Kevin Patra leaving early for a bachelor party. The heat has been put on the newswriters who have been not had that kind of workout in a while. How about Jeremy Bergman picking up the slack early this time? Bergman doing a great job.

Bergman doing a great job. I mean, this was one of Gettleman's many contract headaches to try to figure out. You have to resign this guy. He's a two-time pro bowler, young player. They also have another guard, Andrew Norwell, that they've got, whose contract runs out at the end of the year. And now it's your deal, Herney. You deal with it.

Why were the Panthers in Cap Hill when Marty Herney was fired and Dave Gell? him in a ride because Herney paid solid starters as the best players at their position. Trey Turner is getting paid like one of the best guards in the NFL. He's a very solid starter. But do you have to pay all of your starters better than any other players at those positions? I mean, is Herney just like dancing around the building? Like, I'm back. I'm going to put big checks out.

Mark's dancing right now like a robot. It's like less than 24 hours into his new run with the team. Everyone's just got to get paid. Trade Turner is at least young and is a good starter. so that, you know, it makes some sense to me. All the panic, though, about a Gettelman, this is Gettelman's team. I mean, he put together, he took some chances on the offensive line in terms of his left tackle signing with Khalil,

and, like, the offensive line was really the key to them falling apart last year. Like, this is his team. There's not really much for Herney to do other than hand out some money right now, but, like, the 2017 Panthers, what I'm trying to say is, like, that's the team Gettelman built, and it looks pretty good, I think. Herney's doing a lot of work, in addition to getting the deal done with Turner, The team announced, is this just like timing thing or this guy get into office and immediately it was like, I must do everything.

Yeah, I think it's like, let's sign 14 bills in the first 24 hours type of president move. The team on Thursday announced the release of veteran offensive tackle Michael or a failed physical designation frees up some money under the cap or missed most of last season. He suffered a concussion in week three. He tweeted out and this is kind of a frightening tweet from or the brain is a scary thing. you have to be careful with it. So this could mean the end for the blindside star. A guy who, if not for that movie, would just be, you know, another tackle that we probably

didn't talk about that much, but he will go down kind of in history because of that movie. Like, it really sounds like a guy that's made that much money and he's made a good amount of money in his career, you would think would just retire because he's had concussion problems for, what, nine months? months now? Yeah, I mean, he's played a couple games. That's a long, I mean, but it's still happening now. He's still talking about seeing lots of doctors. He's taking tons of medicine. He's sent these things. He sent these out on Instagram and I can't imagine he's going to want to play again. Yeah, and to that end, it wasn't, this isn't something that herney cooked up out of nowhere. I think that Ron Rivera said months ago that they kind of had a plan for, or.

Moving on, let's talk about the Arizona Cardinals and coach Bruce Ariens, who has a quarterback in Carson Palmer, who obviously struggled. for much of the beginning of last season before turning it on in the back half of the season looking a lot more like the guy who almost won the MVP in 2015. Anyway, Ariens was on the Rich Eisen Show last week

and this is what he had to say about Palmer who offering an explanation why the quarterback might have struggled in the early going last year. He's one of the hardest working dudes I've ever been around. You know, we have to really pull the reins back on him. He'll overwork all the time.

Last year he kind of came in and said Timber had already worn his arm out by overthrowing all summer. And we found a nice regiment in November, December. He was playing as good as he's ever played. Chris, wrestling, do you buy into this, or is it more just kind of an excuse that the coach is making for his veteran quarterback? I do buy into it. And this isn't really the first time. Mark wrote an article earlier this offseason where Carson Palmer was talking about how his arm felt fresher this year because he took March and April off of throwing.

I think that was one of the reasons last year when we watched Carson Palmer in September and October and said he doesn't look like the same quarterback this year. Part of the reason was because John Brown was injured. Michael Floyd was dropping every pass thrown to him. The offensive line wasn't protecting him. That was part of the reason, but I think physically Carson Palmer wasn't right last year

at the beginning of the season. Palmer said he, you know, admitted that he spent the last eight or nine years of his career acting like he was 24, 25, or 26. and not adjusting that arm workout schedule. I only wonder what his career has been fine, but what would be for Carson Palmer if he had actually installed this a little earlier in terms of his off-season regimen?

Certainly didn't hurt him in 2015. Right. Or if he had found Bruce Ariens earlier. In the book, in Ariens' book, which I recommend was really good, The Quarterback Whisper, he talked about this same thing of making mistakes with having Palmer throw-to-fought.

He also pointed out he was putting together his perfect quarterback among basically all the quarterbacks he had ever coached. And, you know, he's coached Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck. Kelly Holcomb. He loves Kelly Holcomb. Yes, he does. Kelly Holcomb in the mix. Ben Rathesberger, of course.

And he said, you know, the perfect arm is Carson Palmer. So even compared to those other guys, he said the perfect arm is Carson Palmer. That's the best arm guy he's ever coached. But to draw a power. High praise. Yeah. To draw a parallel to our softball team, maybe the issue is having an old quarterback. is you get to a point where everything has to be perfectly in place

for the guy to be the guy you need him to be. Just like our softball team, you take out one piece and we fall to hell. So the whole team is a quarterback in this? Sure. Okay. But the point being that Carson Palmer, he's got to be throwing correctly. He needs to get to protection. He's got to watch out for his knees.

He's the things you have to be concerned with when your quarterback is almost 40. Absolutely. But he played great down the stretch. We talked about that on this podcast. He was absolutely a top 10 quarterback for the last. last two months. I know they didn't have a great season, but he was... And that's when he started taking the time off during the week.

So I think it does work. Where did he finish in your QB index last year? I think he was in the 12 to 15 range by the end of the season. Yeah, it was about 13. But for the second half of the season, he would have been like 7, 8, 9. One little bit of Arizona news. The team re-signed veteran running back Chris Johnson to a one-year deal. The team announced Thursday.

Johnson is set to turn 32 in September. No longer the home run threat he once was. had found a little bit of a niche there in Arizona, he just has to stay healthy. They've spent the offseason talking up Kernwin Williams, too, and they moved Andre Ellington back to running back. I don't think it's a given that Chris Johnson is the primary backup to David Johnson. And there aren't going to be many carries behind David Johnson anyway. Are they concerned about his durability after what happened last season and he played well the year before in Arizona, but that ended with his health issue too?

I would think so. That's probably why he waited until late July to sign. The interesting thing about Chris Johnson is he's hanging on to reach 10,000 rushing yards. He needs 463 this year. I would take the under on that. I'm with you. If you're the Cardinals, do you call up DeAngelo Williams before you make this relatively boring move by resigning Chris Johnson? But is DeAngel Williams any more exciting a move? DeAngelo Williams, actually, when he filled in for Levion Bell, looked great.

I agree, DeAngel Williams looked like a guy that should still. Why didn't the Steelers sign him? Right. Chris Johnson looked pretty good early last season when he was getting killed. He had some moments. He was run tough in Arizona. Moving on. Meanwhile, on the throne of ease.

C-S-N-N-E dot com spoke to a anonymous AFC scout asking, hey, why Jimmy Garapolo is still on the Patriots? Which is a fair question. It's a very, it's kind of a, it's a sneaky, like, very fascinating subplot in the NFL. NFL when they could have gotten so much value for the young man by now. Anyway, here's what the scout had to say.

He's Bill Belichick. He doesn't give a blank. What do you think that is? F? Yeah, I think it's an F. Frog. I think it's an S. Hmm.

Okay. He doesn't give an S about what you or me or anyone else thinks. I know teams called about Grobolo. I don't believe they were ever given a realistic price. Why? To me, the answer is simple. Bill thinks he's got the next great one. I watch his snaps.

I think he could be that. Gropolo is a great base and his mechanics are close enough to Brady that you appreciate his willingness to learn and the coaching he's gotten there. Mark? Why did the scout turn increasingly effeminate as the quote went on? That's not how I was reading it. It's just reading the quarterbacks. I love how this turned into an article.

I saw the headline from NFL to come. Would the Browns have made them? the playoffs with Garoppolo. It's like, well, look, this is the kind of, you know, tournament events, good fortune that got them from number one to number two in the pain rankings. You don't land the quarterback that you should have. Were you okay with that, by the way, or is there any, like, issues between us?

No, there's no issues between us. I don't agree with your ranking, but it's not my piece. Okay, good. Redwell. I will say this. I don't know what the Browns have to do with this at all. I think it's good self-scouting by the Patriots. to not give up, if he's this good and they believe it, you don't give him up for nearly anything.

But what is the Patriots plan? Honestly, what's the plan? I don't think they have one. I think they do. I think they have a plan. The plan is, why not keep a guy who doubles as Tom Brady Insurance, the best backup quarterback in the league, and then also we can franchise him next year and either trade him or keep him depending on what plays out in the 2016 season? And if you keep him, then what?

You keep Brady and Garoppel. Brady makes a lot less money than he should be making, and the salary cap is booming. I mean, these one-year deals for certain players is like a trend. I know Brady's making an affordable salary for the salary cap, but you would be tying up like $40 million a year. I think the plan is wait and see. Like, that's a legitimate plan that you see where you're at at the end of the year.

You see what kind of contract, if they're really going to get serious about it, which they weren't this year because they knew they had them under contract. What sort of creative contract could they get? Jimmy Garapolo to sign where there's certain incentives, certain guarantees if he plays, if he doesn't he can get out of it maybe after one year if he doesn't get the, like who knows? They can figure it

out. I truly think that the earth like spun on one of its axes where a whole different reality happened where I was up in the middle of the night early in the off season when Jimmy G filed this Instagram post thanking Boston and thanking New England and I like retweeted

it and I was like everything's finally happening. Everything is happening And then slowly over the course of two hours It became completely fraudulent And he had no idea who got into his Instagram account And it was a complete myth By the time I woke up

Speaking of alternate reality I had a dream last night This is true that the Patriots were up by 10 I was living in the house I grew up And with my wife strangely And the Patriots were up at halftime Against Japan They were facing the country of Japan

And then my parents came up My dad was too excited. I was like, they can still blow the lead. The game's not over yet, and that was it. This is you, like, 22 years from now. You could put literally the entire Japanese population on the field and the Patriots would still defeat them. To put a bow tie in this Garoppelow thing,

Rapsheet reported a few months back. A bow tie? A bow. I was going to say, but I like the idea of it being a little tiny person. It's like little Johnny Jones or something. Yes. Paul Simon, the old. Senator from Minnesota, presidential candidate.

Didn't he wear pro-tize? I don't know. Anyway. Shut up, Paul. I think you're right. Anyway, rap sheet reported a few months ago that the Patriots do indeed see Garoppolo as a franchise quarterback. And if you read Belichick's comments from last year when he said, it's a seamless transition when Garoppel. When Garoppel, when Garaplo is under center in practice, from Brady to Garoplo, that's about as high praise as Belichick gives his own players.

They have a seamless transition. I think it's pretty obvious that they view Garoppolo as special. Everybody's got to count down with the bow ties, by the way. Just a little bit. Who's not calm with it? I don't see them around much. No, they pop up now. It's in style.

Well, it's a, yeah. Give me a tie any day of the week. All seven days. Give me the tie. There was a period in our office where there was someone that floated around in a bow tie. Like a lower-level newsroom type person would go bow-tie once in a while. Are you naming names? This was ages ago, no.

No, he still worked there. I know exactly who you're talking. Then I'm even referencing a second person. Hopefully he doesn't listen to the podcast. Oh, you know who wears a bowtie sometimes? Marcus Grant over at the fantasy side. So maybe you should. Is that who you're referring to?

No, I'm referring to someone who's very clearly on the East Coast. I did not even say whether or not I like that fashion trend. I haven't seen you wear a bow tie. I would never wear one. But it doesn't mean that other people can't look good in it. Sessler backpedaling quickly. Occasionally I was referencing someone who's on the East Coast.

I don't think anyone in this room. It should be commenting on other people's sartorial choices. Maybe you're right about that. Let's do, you know, let's do some odds and ends. Why not? Odds and ends. Odds and ends. Everybody loves.

Some odds and ends. Is it like the Gothic interpretation? What the hell was that? Odds and ends is a light tune. Suddenly it sounds like nine-inch nails. It does have a little of a, N-I-N vibe to it. I don't know.

No Colleen here. I just thought maybe after the 17-2 loss, just to darken it up a little bit. Pull the curtains. Pull the curtains in, switch the lights off, lay in bed until 3 p.m. types of choice.

Ods and ends. Here we go. Dante Fowler arrested on two misdemeanor charges, the Jaguars pass rusher, 22 years old. According to police reports, Fowler was seen punching a man after a brief verbal confrontation.

He then stepped on the man's glasses. Ooh, that's some bully stuff. Breaking a lens, according to the report. Anyway, he posted a $650 bond. We'll see what this means both in terms of any legal action in terms of court dates and also whether the NFL acts on it. The Jaguars, why do you make it so hard for us to love you? Come on. If you look at the Rhodo World posts, there's a few interesting ones. One, the post immediately before this incident, was defensive coordinator. Dante Fowler has matured a lot. Oof.

Yeah. There's a tropolar. Todd Wash. And then a little bit afterwards was that he has 10. This is only traffic. Like, it's not a big deal. But how do you get, he has 10 traffic tickets in the last 16 months? I just figure it.

I'm not like, I'm not judging him. That's just hard to do to get 10. Like, how do you get 10 in 14 months? I think there were, there were whispers coming out from people that know the team and cover the team that this is a guy taking third in the draft. And if you didn't know Mike Williams had a back issue, they did not know a lot about Dante Fowler apparently because he has been, I think, an issue inside the building

in terms of his maturity. So maybe that was a point in common trying to get him in that right direction. But there are other arrests attached to this guy too. That's a red flag. I mean, if you have kids and you live in his neighborhood, it's like he doesn't care. He's just going 120 every time. I'm just saying to get 10,

that means you are speeding every single time you are in a car, you are going double the speed limit. because it's pretty hard to get a traffic. Dante Fowler, a threat to your children, says Greg Rosenville. Just a reminder, everyone, this is odds it ends. We want to pick up the face a little bit. But you mentioned the car. Greg, do you want to talk about your car experience at all?

Because I'm fascinated by it. What? Greg bought a new car. He did the entire negotiation via email. Yeah, I didn't even know it was a thing that you could do. I didn't either. I decided I was going to try it out. I've had such bad experiences going to car places feeling like they're boning you.

they keep you there for eight hours, then you're just exasperate. I'm like, I'm not going into this place until I work this thing out. And it's much easier to know what to say and be a little more of a jerk maybe and do it all over email. So we went in there once to just kind of look at it,

but then, you know, had his email address on it and it was all good. Other fun facts associated with this purchase. I mean, I got this car, you know, for like less than the price I even asked. He got it for a good value. Think, is this a red flag to? A couple things.

the car was under factory recall for over a month. Number two, Greg comes in on email, as we talked about, with an offer, and then the guy comes back and offers less than what Greg's offer was. You think it's possible they're desperately trying to unload this death machine. Well, that was after a long buildup, you know, to that last email. And then I hit him with the hammer, which was that, look, you know, this recall, you know, I mentioned like the recall, no one wants his car right now. and then I was saying I can get it for this price

at the other you know we got the toasted marshmallow color over at another place I just prefer yours because it's closer and then they came back with it. This is a car that you purchased for your wife and children. Yeah, yeah. I asked Greg if you popped a trunk to check if they gave you two body bags as well in the machine. Anyway.

Three calls happen, you know. All right, odds and ends. Quick here. Pac-Man Jones suspended one game for violating the league's personal conduct policy pled guilty to a second-degree misdemeanor in May stemming from an early January incident in a Cincinnati hotel. I wonder if he has set the record

in terms of the time between his first NFL suspension and his last NFL suspension. I was going to say, it feels like a story from 2007 or something. I think it's about 12, 13 years now. That's a pretty big gap. Wow. He's almost 34 years old. He's kind of unkilled in the NFL.

Still a bad boy. Very much a bad boy. there used to be someone when I worked at Walgreens in Pearl River in my teenage years I used to be in charge of changing the sign out front where you had to have like a big pole with a suction cup and it'd be like 12 degrees out and I'm like saying you know toilet paper on sale and I have to spell it out and get it correct anyway there was a guy that worked next door at the shop right the supermarket he worked in the butcher's department and he was like an upperclassman he was like a senior and he drove

like a green Camaro, and he always parked it diagonal in the parking lot to take up two spots so no one could park close to his car, which it was always a douche move. Yeah. And then he had a big sticker on the back windshield, and it was like, I don't know, remember when it was like the Calvin and Hobbs? And then you'd see people would have like Calvin peeing on Hobbs or something. Peeing on a Chevrolet or a Ford, depending on your affiliation. So it's something like that.

And then the message was badass boys drive badass toys. Well He was overcompensating That's on Greg's car as well By the way Chevy Bolt is it Chevy Spark As a former

Sully you like that Would you get that on your car? Yeah No Okay As a former supermarket employee I can tell you That the bad boys

In the supermarket Do work in the meat department They're the butchers I also worked in a supermarket Quite a bizarre first employment Were you a badass boy? No I think my mom dropped me off to eat and picked me off

You're born after each shift, so I don't think I've qualified. In other legal news, O.J. Simpson got paroled yesterday. The Hall of Famer and, you know, O.J. Simpson. He had been in jail for nine years for a robbery at a Vegas hotel. He will be released later in the fall. I just want to share one quick quote here from OJ during his parole hearing. Nobody ever accused me of pulling any weapon on them. I would never, ever pull a weapon on anybody.

Didn't the state of California accuse him of pulling a weapon? I believe they did, Wes. Okay. I believe they did. Moving on, Derek Carr predicts another 30-sack season for Khalil Mack. He predicted that last year as well, and Mack went from 15 to 11. So just by going the same type of process,

he'll have seven, then three, and then be out of football in three years. Way to go, Derek Carr. I mean, he was vaguely kidding, I think, when he made this prediction, but, you know, that's a very foreboding for Mac. It's great for, you know, the Raiders to have two great young stars like that. Oh, yeah. Tremendify them.

tremendous. What a team. Tremendous. There you go. Sell, you're getting it. He's all over it now. And finally, in odds and ends, the Lions have decided to do away with their playoff banners. Did you know that the Lions, because the Colts got a lot of heat for this, when they had AFC finalist, which. essentially, or literally means they went to the AFC championship game and got their ass kicked by the Patriots. But the lions were doing it for every time they advanced to the playoffs. So, for instance, in 2014, when they had a one and done, they put up a banner. They were scheduled to put up a banner for last season when they lost 26-6 in the wild card round. They have a $100 million renovation at Ford Field, and one of the team brass announced, we didn't see any point in putting them back up.

Probably a good takeaway. Bad move by brass, because I would say, wait, no, I like the idea of getting rid of them, absolutely. The idea of making an announcement about it because you get all this fresh wave of stories that remind everyone how awful the lions have been for over half a century. In the defense of this brass,

his name is Rod Wood. He's the team president. He was giving a tour to media members of the renovation. and my guess is that someone might have looked up and say, hey, where are the banners? And then he revealed it. I think that's how it played out. All right.

Well, good for wood. That is a franchise in pain. A lot of pain. That's what's happening in the news. New Era. Oh. Do we love New Era? New Era's NFL training collection has a great combination of innovative performance and style

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It's good to hear gold standard, though. Oh, yeah. What's he up to? Tweeting about soccer a couple days ago. Sean Spicer and soccer are two of his big topics this morning I've seen. He's got his business that he's running. He's got a whole thing going on. We love the gold standard.

He's a guy you never have to worry about. Yeah, that's fair. But I do. There's like a little duckling. flying away. You know, you believe that they're in the right position to succeed. But, of course, there's always a part of you that says, God, I hope he's okay.

He is the co-founder of Common Goal, which I believe is a consulting. We should call him up and call sit up one day. Get an update, you know? I thought you were saying, like, to set them up. No, no, no, no, just like get an update on their lives on the podcast. I think they'd be a great couple, to be honest. I like that idea better. The update on their lives thing is fun

But imagine if we got them together Things took off a little bit And all of a sudden there was an ATN podcast wedding Of two Mount Rushmore producers Moss City is in L.A. this weekend, by the way. Yeah, another possibility for that Is we get Sully and K. Rich together. That's chemistry.

We've got a lot of rom-coms we're spinning here. That is an explosive couple right there. Assuming Sully gets our stitcher back. Power come back. It's the only way to get it back. It's an elaborate ruse. There have been, like, worse Sarah Jessica Parker rom-coms if we basically had Sully make a move and make a play on our ex-producer Crystal. Be a tough sell.

But it was all about Sully getting close enough to get the Stitcher award back. Oh. Yeah. Let's move on. But that would be that dark end of... Not the matchmaker game show. Let's keep going. Act two would end where he'd have to, she'd find out about this whole plot,

but he had actually fallen in love with her genuinely. And so he's got to say, I don't care about the Stitcher award. And, like, we don't get it in the end. So there's a sequel. Matt Dillon and that Tyler character and something about Mary, where they're both like up to no good. Yes. Oh, dear.

But, yeah, basically they both fall for each other. Right when she's like head over heels, she finds out about the Stitcher situation, maybe Saul's got it sticking out of his pocket one day. She's just happy to see her. And then, yeah, at the end of the movie, they end up together. And we get the Stitcher Award back. Boom.

And that's part of it too. Great film. Anyway, what's more likely? It's an either-or game. This is the training camp edition of what's more likely. So we'll go around the horn a couple times here with two situations. And we have to choose which one is more likely to happen. Mark, get us going.

All right. This one has a couple options, not just two, but it's this. Now, this, before you go on, is this going to be more like a qualus to Fantasia? No, this is a, this is a. I don't know what the difference between those two are at all. That's kind of the problem. This is pretty, like, football pure here. Okay.

It's something that's on my radar and has been for 20 years about the preseason. Every year we get some from the wilderness team that takes the preseason way too seriously and goes like 4 and 0, destroying opponents week after week. This invariably creates all sort of tedious win from analysts who fall hard for this cipher of a team, bound to still go like 6 and 10 in the regular season. Who's more likely to be that false flag operation this August? The Rams, 49ers, Jaguars, or Bills? What's more likely?

You nailed it. Pure football. No, that was perfect. Absolutely, that's perfect. Not that. Am I wrong about that? I feel like that happens every year. Like one of these, I'll never forget, like, 89.

Like, the cults went 4-0, and people were predicting them to beat the Niners in the opener, and they lost, like, 44 to 10 and won, like, two more games. The Chip Kelly, Sam Bradford, year. Eagles was certainly a candidate. Infamously, the 2008 lines went 4 and 0 in the preseason or own 16 in the regular season. Okay. So give me those teams one more time, Mark. The Rams, the 49ers, the Jaguars, or the Bills?

Well, here, I'm going to say the Jags are the most likely. You're saying for people to get too excited about the team because they've been teasing the football Gagnoscenti for. a couple of years now. And if they ever had a three and one, four and O preseason and Blake Bortles is playing well, people are going to be saying this is it. This is their division. It's finally coming together. Blake Bortle. I'm assuming Blake Bortles will look good if they have a nice preseason. Right. He's had some good preseason before too. Yep. Yep. It gets people excited. So I would put them above the other three teams. I think the Rams are an interesting candidate here. A young, eager head coach

maybe puts out a little more effort, goes all out, doesn't really hold back on the preseason as much. And we've seen quarterbacks, like Jared, Brandon Whedon would have a 130 passer rating in the preseason. It would not surprise me if Jared Goff looks phenomenal

against vanilla defense. Right. I'm going to say the Rams too, just because I can imagine, they want to build up Goff's confidence, so maybe they do as much as they can to really make him look good in the preseason, build some excitement. maybe sell some tickets, make him feel good. The Rams were the first team that came to mind.

I also think the Niners, because the Niners, I don't think the Shanahan, he's not a naive. He's been around the block. He's not going to intentionally try to win preseason games necessarily. But they could look very polished, and people could say, maybe this Niners team is ready to take a jump. You know, Hoyer and Shanahan have worked well together before, blah, blah, blah, and then, you know, bang, 4 and 12. I used to really get a kick out of how seriously Rex Ryan took the Snoopy Bowl

The Jets Giants game It actually ruined Mark Sanchez's career That's how much Rex Ryan cared about winning the Snover Bowl But Wes, you're up Yeah, he'd be going to Canton otherwise, Sanchez He would have been the starter that year What's more likely to happen And obviously rejuvenated Adrian Peterson

Operating in a high-octane offense Temps fantasy drafters into gambling a top 20 picks on him, or an obviously rejuvenated Todd Gurley operating in a rejuvenated Rams offense tempts fantasy leaguers to use a top 20 pick on him. I'll go Gurley. For sure, because, A, I don't think we'll see Peterson in August, you know, much. So wherever he's at now, people are going to start getting excited. We'll hear some good practice reports.

But I can see Gurley, we were just talking about the Rams, having a really nice preseason run or two that gets people going. because people want to believe in Todd Gurley. The only thing is that with fantasy, yes, we're around all these, like, fantasy experts and people that take the game so seriously that there is buzz around Adrian Peterson, like a huge chunk of people that play fantasy

that are more casual fans. He's been in their lives forever, and they might just say, yes, I'm going Adrian Peterson on this Saints offense. I'll go Adrian Peterson. Yeah, the Peterson hype train is rolling pretty hard right now. And they're going to use them sparingly, I think, which will work out in his favor

and also for fantasy owners who won't have much to work off. I'm going to go with Peterson. We've got to see what's going on with Todd Gurley at this point. It's going to out with you, Todd. I don't think he's going to answer during the show. We've got to find out about Todd Gurley this year. I like him a little more after all or nothing.

You could really feel that he cared about winning about as much as anyone on that team and had some leadership qualities to him, which I liked. If you're, hit me up on Twitter. If you guys are, if the listeners are interested in talking about all or nothing that season, Greg and I had a conversation about it, the possibility of talking about that show at some point.

But I don't know if anybody cares. That's the whole thing. If you care, hit me up. Here's another recommendation. If you're kind of on the fence about it, just watch the last four episodes. Those four episodes rank with me of any hard-knock season or any other sort of look into football because it was so unique. You could almost miss the entire career. It's a rough couple episodes to get into, so I will follow your advice.

Moving on. What's more likely? Deshawn Watson starts the third game of the preseason, or Mitch Trubisky starts a third game of the preseason. Oh, I think it's easily Deshawn Watson. Tom Savage does not seem like a guy who's going to be hard to beat out. If Deshaun Watson shows that he's ready to play, I think he could enter the league as a starter.

I just can't see a guy with 13 college starts like Mitch Trubisky beating out Mike Lennon. I don't see that as any kind of legitimate possibility. I think barring disaster, they've already essentially given Mike Lennon the starting job that we could see Trubisky, but it'd be late in the year when the Bears, when the wheels have totally fallen off that team, which is very possible. Isn't it also should be stated that the Bears are a highly unpredictable entity right now? They are. Crazier things have happened, including the Mitch Trubisky trade,

was a crazier thing that happened. Like, the fact that they gave up all of that for him is crazier than him. I'd be shocked. But I would be shocked, too, so I'm going to go to Sean Watson, who would, also, you know, we're not college experts, but would seem more likely to really impress and pick things up quickly in the first few weeks of training camp. Greg?

All right. What's more likely? What's more likely? Brandon Albert left tackle of the Jaguars. Eccl talk gets cut at the end of training camp after being a pain all offseason. Or Jamal Charles, future Hall of Famer in my mind, gets cut at the end of the training camp. Or Carlos Hyde as a surprise cut. I heard this one from a little birdie insider.

Or Brock Osweiler gets cut at the end of training camp. Wow. There's a lot of oars. Yeah, well, I just figured, well, let's throw some names in here. Okay. Probably getting left out Albert, not a lot of sizzles. Yeah, you led with him, too, which is fun. I don't know if I'm really close enough to the operations of any of these teams to hazard an educated guest.

Oh, stop. But I'll approach it from this way. Carlos Hyde is the least likely of those four to be released. I also think you could. Not the question. Can I answer the question? I honestly have no idea who's more likely to be released. But we don't have any any of these answers.

I mean, you'd have to have. No, never mind. Go ahead. Someone else can take this. Wow, he's passing on it. I just, I can't possibly hazard a guess. I don't know. Scientists, he'd haven't had this.

Like, I don't know what Jamal Charles' knees look like. I'll go Charles because it would be in a circumstance where we want this guy. He doesn't cost, you're not costing us much money, and he's on a one-year deal, but he just doesn't look himself. That if it plays out that way, he would be gone. Hyde, I think you could trade Hyde. You could at least try to get someone to get to get something for him before releasing him. It's hard to trade.

But it could happen. Brandon Albert's done. Just want to mix it up here. Hey, you mind with Albert? I'm going to say Albert's done. He's a big pain in the keyster, as they say. No one going with Brock. I mean, I feel like all that talk about him might not even make the team.

No, wait, slow down, though, because you put in so many oars. Everyone forgot about Bro. No, you're stepping on a potential what's more likely down the line now. involving that very gentleman. Would you mind if we could just... No, let's just talk about for a little while. Dig in a little. Let's hit pause, and we're going to come back to Brock Osweiler.

All right. Mark? I will try another one. What's more likely? We're sorry that didn't work out that one. You seem to be hurt that that one didn't work out. I found it thought provoked. I thought it was fine.

I had to think about of those four options my answer. I liked it. Wes hated it, but... Well, I just... It's all. I had a hard time coming up with a strong opinion on it. Yeah. I feel very strongly that Jamal Charles is done in Denver.

No, I don't. All right. So here we go. What's more likely? For the first time in history, we are in total lockstep with regards to the team of ATL by the end of the preseason and do something incredibly ballsish

and pick that team and don't look back before week one. Balls-ish or Ball-Z? I wrote Ball-Z and then I switch to Balls-E. Balls-ish, and I capitalized-ish, so I wouldn't say balls. Put a bow-tie on it. Put a little bow-tie on that. Or, rookie Deshawn Watson becomes the unquestioned starter for Bill O'Brien's Texans when black ops government agents rushed to the scene in Houston after quarterback Tom Savage

suddenly freezes up during a training camp practice. As smoke pours from a malfunctioning robotic left eye on Savage's synthetic melting face, teammates stand in shock as the Gub agents wraps Savage in a fiberglass body bag and cart his body away to a secret cave system 25 miles east of Austin. That sounds unlikely, but I think the top one is even more unlikely. Can I say I really feel strongly, and we'll get into the team of ATL nominations next month, I feel really strongly about us picking it before the season this year. I do feel like we're more in lockstep this year than previous years?

I do too, Dan, because there's a lot of teams I like. I think we can get it done. And I just like the idea of it. If we need to change it up a little bit, I like the idea of picking a horse and riding it. I do too. We've never had this many Tom Savage references on the podcast without the Tom Savage is real. Tom Savage is real.

Well, in this case, though, that drop would be done forever because it would be proven. In fact, he's not really real. He's a cyborg. He's really fake. Yeah, I think he's a creation. Well, that's a larger question, Greg, because a cyborg is a mixture of human and synthetic parts. So was he built in Gil Brant's basement?

Well, that's a great question. It's a mystery. Yeah, I think the Savage part's more likely to answer the question because I'm not really into conspiracies, but this is one that, frankly, we were all over a long time ago. Is this guy, something strange about this guy, Tom Savage.

Talk about putting a bow tie on something that would be the end of that, this whole narrative. Decisively. I think James Cameron definitely in the Terminator, too, he had to have a take on Tom Savage because if you remember, Arnold's character definitely forms a bond

with the young John Connor. Absolutely. Does he cry at the end of TV? There's some humanity shown. So is the Terminator real? I don't know. Moving on, Wes. What's more likely?

Andrew Luck plays in three preseason games Or Marty Herney Signs six players to contract extensions You had to make that number awfully high But I guess I'm going to go Herney Because I can't imagine luck playing three preseason games And Herney's already got one done

He's going to do Thomas Davis He's got Greg Olson He'll probably sign like the janitor to a couple of year deal You know, he's just like... Extensions, right? It would be larger type extension Yeah. Like every, yeah, all the Panthers players, like, oh, we love it.

Old Uncle Marty's back because he's just walking through the hallway with a huge bag of cash, like throwing it in the air. Santa Claus. We love you, Marty. Bags of gold. Oprah, you get a contract extension. You get a contract extension. Exactly. I think, hmm.

Why wouldn't Luck play three pieces? Let's do the map. Let's do the math. Okay. The Colts start their preseason on August 13th. Today is July 21st. So that is approximately three and a half weeks. He's not going to play week four of the preseason.

Right. He's not going to play week one. So he has to be there for week one for this to work, which means Andrew Lundluck's not playing a live football game in three and a half weeks. It's not even throwing, right? We don't know. I think we see in week two and three. Based on the information we have, if I had to put an over-under on it,

I know that's not allowed in these parts. I would say one is my over-under for Andrew Luck starts. All right, fair enough. But who knows? This is another one. I think you're right that in order to make it to pre-year-old. pre-season week one he would be throwing by now. Yeah, there's a chance you could set it at like half.

He might not, we might not see Andrew Luck. And then you wonder if that's the case, is there any way he starts to, is he a pup candidate? Another major subplot to watch more accessible. Okay, I will track it. Let's move on. What's more likely? All right, this is a depressing one, but it's for the, fans of the losing franchises in this room.

Josh McCown breaks camp as the Jets' week one starter, or Brock Osweiler breaks camp as the Brown's week one starter. What's more likely? Oh, McCown, by far. I think Osweiler is more likely to get released than start week one. There's just been no buzz about Osweiler at all. I thought there was. Except from Osweiler.

From our neck of the woods, actually, for me and our NFL Network Insiders. That's been like three months, hasn't it? I just think that if anyone is going to start for Cleveland, one that wasn't, I think that Cody Kessler's in theory your safe pick. I don't know what that means, but Kaiser would have a chance if he played well to jump in there. I just don't, I think Osweiler right now is number three in that. Where when it comes to McCown, if you don't, if McCown looks competent, and he is a competent quarterback, and the other two Jets quarterbacks do not, and there's in any scenario that they don't put Josh McCown out there for week one,

that coaching staff is going to have so many questions to answer. It's going to be awful by the end of September for them. agree that they're tanking the season. Yes, I think we all agree that, but the Jets coaches can't show that, like, before week one that they put Christian Hakenberg in. I just don't, I don't, I think you, I think it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, with, with McCown for the start of the year. They gave him a lot of money.

I think when the, I'm not, I'm not a, not a McCown believer at this stage, but I think when it's real football starts, he'll just be better than Christian Hakenberg. when there's real pass rush and pre-seasoning it. He's not going to be great, but he'll just be better than Kristen Hakenberg, and so we'll play. The last four. Justin Hakenberg is real? Maybe. The last four Osweiler wrote a world updates for the record.

Hugh, Osweiler has done a good job. Brock Osweiler says he expects to start. Osweiler impressing teammates at Brown's OTAs, Osweiler working hard on his quote, fundamental. See, none of that to me adds up to any real, juice on Osweiler. You want me to give you a preview the next Roto World Alert?

Yes. Rock Osweiler released. He'll get some more. He'll get some stuff in the game. I think, for the record, I think he's going to start week one. I think it's going to happen. I think they want him to start for some reason.

I think they believe in him. Well, why do you think about, why do you think it that more than other players other quarterbacks on the team? I've just not heard that. I feel like there's been some buzz around him. I think you want him to start. I would like that should be a rhodo world blurb I got I you know the RG3 starting for

the Browns was kind of peak like miserable veterans starting for the Browns nothing were really top that so I don't have a real this is pretty close yeah I'm not looking forward to this you're wishing misery upon them no just get him out of the way you know he'll move out quickly just like Josh McCown but I think we're going to see you don't think we're am I the only one of things I'm going to start games this year yes okay I think he's going to start some games I don't know I would be no Well they had six players play quarterback last year So it's not out of the realm of possibility at all

He could definitely start a game If he makes the team I kind of expect I feel like he'll either get released before it even starts And or he'll end up starting a couple games at some point They'll have three different players start a quarterback Why would you keep Brock Oswald as your number three quarterback Can I tell you why $16 million? You're right I mean I don't know

Can I tell you why? So you let a team's in playoffs last year There you go Didn't lead a team to damn anything All right, Greg. All right. We're going to interrupt this game for a little breaking news. Oh, yeah.

The NFL Players Association recently filed to the NFL that Ezekiel Elliott and his representatives, what they hope is a final response to their investigation. The NFL is wrapping up its investigation of Ezekiel Elliott incidents after more than a year. This is from Ian Rappaport and Tom Pelliserra. How about Pellasero getting in there with the network insider news? Ian don't like it. So essentially the news is the discipline is coming soon, I guess. With that in mind, what's more likely?

Let's just incorporate it all. What's more likely, Ezekiel Elliott gets suspended one game or Ezekiel Elliott gets suspended more games than that? Or if you want, Ezekiel O'Eykele doesn't get suspended at all. Brandon Albert gets suspended. Conduct detrimental on the team. he'll probably get a game right isn't that what the the shepter report was i'm sure i don't know how this stuff works but the the fact that then he had more a bar fight on top of it and then

the the speeding ticket came out and and all this stuff i think the NFL is just going to be like whoa this guy needs a little bit he needs to get an official demerit here just to maybe slow him down so they're going to hit him with a one gamer which is not the end of the world not great obviously. I'll sign up for one game. I can't predict what Roger Goodell is going to do with suspension. I can predict it's going to be a lot of Zechia Elliott and Cowboys. As if our network or any other networks need an excuse to talk Cowboys,

they and the Cardinals are in camp a week before everyone else. So it's basically Cowboys TV starting Monday when inside training camp starts live. That's what they like. I'm going to go zero games just to be different. I have no inside knowledge on this. I thought you were going breaking news that Anquan Bolden is visiting the bills. Oh, didn't even know that one. I thought you wanted to play for a contender.

That'd be a nice signing for them. They could use it. They could use them. If you're an quond. It's a useless signing for them. With all due respect, I know this for a fact because when I see, whenever I see an athlete that's born the same year as me, it sticks in my mind. Anquan Bolden, born in 1980, he's 37 years old.

You're 37 years old. You're getting beat up for 15 years in the NFL. You're going to go to Buffalo? I made a lot of money in this year. I'm not going to tell a man to retire. You love the game. They love the game. It's the type of attitude we could use on the Shield.

Well, you're damn right about that. You're damn right about that, Greg. We could use a few more Anquan boldens on the Shield. In fact, Anquan. You want to play for a contender. This seems in the playoffs. Southern California, nice weather, free beer. Yeah, we were talking.

How about Pablo Sandival? He's looking for work. Come on over, Panda. Who loses his spot? Listen, we could cross that bridge when we get to it. Veteran minimum contract. Um, okay, good game. Good what's more likely, guys. Um, for some, um, we'll sign off for now. But I will say a couple things. Uh, yes, we are, next week is our final week of two shows per week. So if you are a big fan of the podcast and if you are, you are an excellent person, uh, you should know that effective, I believe, July 31st it is. Um, we will be doing, three shows a week

straight through hell the draft basically start up again even beyond the draft I mean we didn't do go to two until June so you know for a solid 10 and a half 11 months

buckle up Sessler I'm about to go flying you know you got that post Super Bowl week or two we might drop it back but other than that it's basically on oh I did the mat I counted up the weeks I figured it out you know you always say we're not really halfway through the season at various points Right.

The season through the Super Bowl is 28 weeks. Week one starts on Monday. 28 weeks long. That's it. That's it officially. Keep grinding, Sessler. I am prepared this time. And we haven't started.

So it starts at... On Monday. I'm going up to Cowboys Camp, actually, on Monday. Oxnard? Oxnard. And training camp is off and running. Who are you reporting for when you're going to be up there? Now, we've goal.

to be very quiet. Up in the clearing, we have the incredibly rare Inner Film Network's Greg Rosenthal. Oh, crocky, I scared it away. I can't believe we bleeped out

crikey. What? Is that? Who did that? Did you do that song? No. The guy who sent it might have beeped it out.

Yeah. Is that like an F bomb in Australia? No, I think it was F. Crickey. Yeah, there was a word that came before Oh, I thought crikey got bleeped. No. I like that one.

That's a good one. We went through them. Sully and I, there's the listeners that, by the way, listeners, keep sending them. We got a bunch of them back in the Sydney days of NFL networks, Greg Rosenthal, submissions, and then they kind of dried up. We went through a bunch of them. Sully, we did not hold back. We tossed a lot of them. We did.

We whacked about half of them. Yeah, we can't. Some are good. Some are not good. And if you don't hear yours, you could probably figure it out where you came down. Wow. So, but just keep trying. It doesn't mean to quit.

Unless it was really bad, then don't try anymore. But, and you'll probably know, even as you send it off, is like, this probably isn't going to be very good. If you're one of those people, just give up. But if you're a creative person, like whoever sent that. If other people are telling you you're creative, not just if you assume yourself that you're creative. Let's start there.

Your mom, too. If your mom's saying you creative, that's good. and she's supportive. Take it with a grand of salt. But that holds no weight. Yeah. We are talking about people outside your direct support circle that are telling you you're talented.

Right. Those are the people we're looking for for free support. How many submissions do you expect to receive after this lecture? Well. I think being honest of the audience is always a prudent course. All right. And we will figure we're going to get to it. The 5,000th Reddit listener or subscriber,

we're going to hand out a prize. I got to talk to some shadowy league figures to figure out what we can give away and we have to talk as a group about it. But that's coming. It's almost 6,000 people now. We keep signing up. You put you into the running for whatever the prize will be. Okay.

Now let's go home. Stan Hans is signing off for Quiet Storm, the mailman, the boss, and Saleh, behind the glass. Till Tuesday. This is an IHeart podcast.