NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Where will Tony Romo end up?

Episode Date: February 22, 2017

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Chris Wesseling & Gregg Rosenthal – discuss all the latest news from around the NFL including Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis being arrested,... and a few offseason roster moves from the Jaguars and the Dolphins. Then, the heroes break down the most likely landing spots for Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo, and debate over which team would be the best fit.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast has plenty of cap room to work with. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. All right.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Tuesday show. Long layoff. That literally is the longest between shows we'll have all year, I would suspect. A solid five night, five days. Thank you to everyone that came back. Maybe we lost thousands of listeners. They unsubscribe. They said these guys, they don't bring the stuff on the regular anymore.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I'm moving on. Well, rightly so. Yeah. Well, thanks for the people that are here for soldiering through it. I mean, I know it was tough. Yeah, it was tough. But, you know, now we're all back together and we're all wearing nice dress shirts because we were on, once again, they're taping for up to the minute, the NFL network program that you could watch.
Starting point is 00:01:09 We'll be on twice this week. So set your DVR. Set that DVR twice this week. Thursday and Friday. The shirt that I wore, I at 6 a.m., just pulled out of a dryer and could not have been more wrinkled and thankfully just, you know, flattened itself out during the day. That's what you've got to do with a wrinkled shirt. Just take it through the day. by the way Greg you are really starting to cross over now you actually showed up on the scroll
Starting point is 00:01:36 over at the mothership in bristol ESPN off one of one of your writings at nfl.com they do refer to you though in the scroll in this program wasn't a scroll yeah like the the bottom of third yeah he wants to clarify yeah to clarify he you referred to as nfl dot com's Greg rosenthal and i'm sure that was a hit to both your ego and a contract violation had it happened at NFL. Hey, we run without in the field
Starting point is 00:02:06 it works, Grie Gikik, Rosenthal. I am a half of us. So it was like, someone sent this in. I don't understand really what they're saying. Should we use it?
Starting point is 00:02:21 I said, absolutely. I have no idea what they're saying either, but I heard Greg Gigging, get Rosenthal in there and a green light. And everybody, send in your submissions for NFL networks Greg Rosenthal. Yeah, I mean, I consider not even showing up for this podcast today because once, you know, Stephen A. Smith uses your column as a jumping off point for meaningless debate, somehow more meaningless than my dart throwing, which was that column, you know, picking fits for the right team.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Yeah, there's nowhere to go in the day. There's nowhere to go in your career, but down. You did it, Greg. I think it comes as no surprise that the mothership would pick that article of all articles as a jumping off point. That's just fitting. I should say that drop came from Jamie Andrew in Glasgow. Hit him up at the underscore magic torch if you want to, you know, figure out what it's saying in those last three words. We'd all love to know.
Starting point is 00:03:17 So you got a plug out of it and you got on the podcast, Jamie, flying high. Not higher than Greg, though. Dan, well, I'm not really flying. You seem almost resentful about the amount of love Jamie's getting right now. Like he's a threat. I wouldn't say that. I was one that requested people send in submission, so this is totally erroneous. You did the legwork to get it on the show.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah, and now Greg is trying to turn it into some type of narrative. Can't let it happen. Behind the glass today, by the way, besides the great first lady, is Kevin Danger, Hanses, brother of the old Zeus. in California for the week. He's done heroic work. We have eaten omelets together. We drank a lot of tequila.
Starting point is 00:04:05 And this morning, as recently as this morning, we're listening to a lot of Madonna deep cuts. And drinking more. So the brothers do. You do some weird stuff. You just go down different roads. Playing laser tag with the children? Played some laser tag over the weekend with the kids
Starting point is 00:04:20 in the backyard of Hansus Manor. I knew you guys were up to something when I was getting late-night screen grabs of various songs you were listening to with no context or messaging, just the shot of the song is that he and Danger are, they're up to no good. I like it. Lying high. So Kevin Danger behind the glass.
Starting point is 00:04:37 All right. Today's show, good one. Sponsored, of course, by Mr. Flame and his economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands. Mr. F. A lot of news to get to, including some rough news from New York Jetsland as I continue to. make that charge toward Mark Sessler's Corner as most tortured fan. You aren't even within 10,000 miles. That is of all the narratives.
Starting point is 00:05:02 This has not been thought out well by you, Dan. This plan of attack against Mark's Corner. Well, sometimes even if you know you're going to lose the war, it's just fun to get into a few battles. Well, this one is beyond absurd. It depends how you define it. Oh, no, here we go. Because if you were defining it, which roster would you rather have? Chris Wesleyan, which roster would you rather have?
Starting point is 00:05:26 I am on Mark's side on this. I refuse to entertain this notion that Dan is suffering more than Mark in his fandom. Yeah, I mean, Greg. Well, let's talk about it when Jimmy Garoppel and... Then we'll talk. Josh Gordon. I would take the Browns.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Are the most explosive triplets in the league. West, like a true politician, didn't answer the question because he knows he would take the Browns. It's not about what's happening this instance. It's about the journey of what's happened. even come at me with anyone. I'm looking down the road when you have a quarterback and a nine-win season and I'm sitting on
Starting point is 00:05:59 two and 14 with Bryce Petty and Christian Hap. I would gladly hand you the corner real estate. Is real? I don't want to be on the corner. You think I want to be on the corner? I don't know. It sounds like you want something. So.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Narrative street corner. We'll talk some news, including, yes, a prominent New York jet having trouble with the law. We will also, Greg, you were referring to the column that you wrote, connecting players to teams and free agency. So we're going to go around the horn and all pick one player in one team and recklessly comment and speculate on why that could be a good match and free agency, which is coming up, Greg.
Starting point is 00:06:41 When is free agency? March 9th is when the new league year starts, but they can start tampering a little bit the two days before that. There you go. And we can talk a little totally. Tony Romo, which we, you know, everybody loves to talk Romo to kill time on the, on the major networks during this time of year. But we are going to do it today, but in a nuanced, smart way, no pie in the sky analysis. We're not looking for the cheap clicks, if you will.
Starting point is 00:07:08 This is really where Tony Romo will end up. What makes sense? I mixed a cupcake in a brownie. I'm calling it a crowny. I think the listeners will be the judge of whether it's smart and nuanced. Okay. Thank you, by the way, for the cupcakes at Hansis Manor. Wes and I were there on our birthday, a shared birthday, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I'll shout out to the women of the house, get the credit for that because they found out it was both of your birthdays and nothing had been prepared. And they're like, well, you can't do that, so you've got cupcakes. And away we go. Wow. It was delicious. This is totally how I figured it went. I did not think that Dan decided to whip up some cupcakes for Greg and I.
Starting point is 00:07:49 I thought, okay, Emily heard that it was our birthday and because she's a nice, she's a nice woman. She said, let's get these guys a little attention on their birthday. I like the fact that you have multiple women at your house. As far as I knew, you had two sons and a wife. So this is news to everyone in the room. All right. So that is today.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Well, yeah, we'll just leave that there. That is what's going on today. And before we get going, we've got to say hi. Yes, officially say hello to the first lady of the around the NFL podcast. New money. Guys, I got a new theme song. So we wanted to use
Starting point is 00:08:25 When You Wish Upon a Star, which is an iconic Disney song. But the SLFs, Shed We League figures, don't let us use any music that is copyright now. There's no wiggle room. So, Sidney, what did you do? How did you improvise you? So this is actually a song from a Russian ballet, which they use in the movie and wrote lyrics to this song,
Starting point is 00:08:53 which is now public domain. What movie? Sleeping Beauty. Nice workaround. Right. It's all public domain. It's in our music library, so. Deal with it, Shadowy League figures.
Starting point is 00:09:02 They're trying to take the music away from the show, and that's that you cannot do that forever. All right. Sid, let's do some news. Now, didn't we, that was the one that Greg privately prepared with you, and it sounded like a car crash. The one, didn't we want to have the one that sounded like an actual jet crashing? Oh, does that exist?
Starting point is 00:09:32 I thought it did. Doesn't that sound? From a vehicle angle that would make more sense. Unless the jet landed safely and then got into a car accident. I remember that being the drop, the one that Sydney just played, and then you having the same criticism last time. Who knows what's happening? We're just repeating ourselves.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yeah. All right. We'll start, of course, with the New York Jets and cornerback Dorel Revis, one of the most decorated greatest players in franchise history. He's coming off a terrible season. And now he has his low point off the field and his NFL career. Revis 31 turned himself into authorities on Friday a day after he was charged with four felonies and a misdemeanor, Marron, stemming from his alleged involvement in a physical altercation in Pittsburgh on February 12th. is if you're following this case along it's a little bit of a strange case because apparently he was approached outside a bar late at night by someone who was uh you know using their camera phone to get some video rivas Antonio brown
Starting point is 00:10:33 Revis allegedly through the phone and then at some point it turned into a scuffle with Revis and maybe someone else and two guys ending up out cold knocked out lights out it's like west outside hookapoo's in 2007 lights out i wouldn't i wouldn't go that far uh and of course so the police only rivas has been charged uh but of course his side is saying he had nothing to do with knocking these two gentlemen out but it complicates the situation here for the jets who are already uh in a place where they weren't sure if they wanted to bring revis back uh if they they can cut him and eat a six million dollar cap charge uh this year or rework his contract uh which is
Starting point is 00:11:18 way, way, way bloated compared to now his ability as a player. But now to me, Greg Rosenthal, it feels like if the Jets were kind of, you know, hanging on and which way to go, this might be, you know, it's time to a clean break from Mr. Revis. And we might even save $6 million out of it. And that's the next part of this story. It's a sad way for Rivas's career with the Jets to end, but I think it was ending anyways.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Even though that they have to pay him guaranteed money, they can save $7 plus million in cap room by cutting him. So I don't think he had virtually any chance to return to the team anyways. If anything, this makes it more complicated that, you know, the court dates not until March 15th, but I don't think they need to worry about it. I expect them to be an ex-jet sooner than later. If you would have told me or any other Jets fan, let's say five years ago,
Starting point is 00:12:13 that in five years, Drell Revis will win a Super Bowl, but it will be with the Patriots and he will be arrested on multiple felony charges and he's never had any trouble with the law in his time with the Jets so you never kind of would connect him to something like this and again we don't know if he actually had a real role in this or he just got caught in the wrong place in the wrong time
Starting point is 00:12:32 we don't know but the fact that those two things have happened and it is it's like a classic Jets thing they brought him back and they paid out the nose to do it and it's been nothing but aggravation for the most part and I believe they should get out now because, Wes, ultimately, the Jets are in a rebuild. So even if you restructured his salary and made him a safety and all that stuff,
Starting point is 00:12:54 the Jets aren't going to win a Super Bowl in the next couple of years. And he's at an age now where he'll be out of football most likely within a couple of years. It just doesn't make any sense. I don't think – I agree with you totally. I don't think there's anything about Revis and the Jets that makes sense as a team right now. He was scapegoated last year. Well, he played poorly enough that a lot of the problems got blamed on him. but the Jets have the least amount of salary cap room in the NFL right now.
Starting point is 00:13:18 It's a mess. They are in full-blown rebuild, and to jettison a guy like Revis makes a lot of sense. Well, and also, I don't know if he was scapegoated, and I wouldn't say that entirely because the way that he conducted himself in terms of his comments to the press was exactly the opposite of what the Jets were hoping to bring back in the whole era, the whole idea of Revis crumbled, I think, last season. You've got to ties with this guy. The past year has been completely out of character with who he was.
Starting point is 00:13:44 was from 2007 until he left over the first time in 2012. And even last year when he had a decent to good season, but maybe a little disappointing. But yeah, he didn't handle himself well with the press. He didn't play well. And now this happens. I mean, it's just hard to make sense. Well, you're one of the greatest players of your era
Starting point is 00:14:01 and your play declines and you're in the spotlight of New York. You might not react to it too well. You know, this signing never made sense to me other than for sentimental reasons. And I, you know, you called me probably a Stinky Davis at the time of the signing for saying that because you were big on it. Jets fans are big on it. Bring them back. We're getting them back from the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:14:23 And when this happens and you make moves where you pay a guy quarterback money at 29 years old for sentimental reasons, you're hoping maybe we get one or two good years, they ended up getting one, they got a second disaster year, and now they're going to eat money for it. Here's the one, my one counter to that. It did not work out. at one point last year they were 10 and 5 and they had beaten the Patriots the week before. But that's not the goal. The goal is to not be like a lousy 10 and 6th team. They were one of the hottest
Starting point is 00:14:53 teams in the league with Revis on the team. They were going for, they were trying to rebuild and make a push at the same time, which didn't work out. But they were in position with Revis to make a run potentially and then it crumbled. Well, now you're a team where the coach
Starting point is 00:15:09 and the GM are one of the offseason candidates to be out there by week eight if things don't go very well. So they have to handle this situation in a pristine manner from here on out. Yes. Does Revis need one or two more years to make the Hall of Fame or do you think he's already not at the level he's playing right now? I'm surprised.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I think he already punched his ticket. Oh, I think he's in. I have given up on predicting how Hall of Fame voters will vote, but he was the best defense. I think probably the best cornerback I've seen outside of Dionne Sanders in his prime. Wouldn't it be better to get out now if it's, if you really in your, if he believes that his play is declined,
Starting point is 00:15:46 which he mentioned in so many words to some degree last year, then to have two more fading synops. But you forget about that stuff. Four first team all pros. That's more than this entire class of Hall of Famers this recent one had except for Kenny Easley.
Starting point is 00:16:00 He'll go in. And all his colleagues view him as the best of the generation. So I think that like Dionne Sanders was 37 years old with the Ravens, and nobody thinks about that. You think about the glory. So let's move on.
Starting point is 00:16:11 The Jacksonville Jaguars and Miami Dolphins doing business together on this week. First, Julius Thomas, the tight end, the Jags signed to a huge deal two years ago, did not work out at all. So they move Thomas to the Dolphins in exchange for a seventh round pick. Someone will have to make sense of this to me because it was confusing to me. And in a separate deal, the Dolphins or excuse me, the Jaguar sent Brandon Albert, another big free aging signing from a couple years ago who hasn't.
Starting point is 00:16:42 quite worked out, excuse me, the Dolphins send Brandon Albert, another free agent signing that hasn't quite worked out to the Jaguars in exchange for a seventh round pick. Let's start there, Wes. Why didn't they just make this a single trade? Why are they making it complicated for the old Zucer? I'm guessing just because of contracts and what would have to work on that level, but I don't know why they did that to you, Dan. What are our thoughts about this trademark?
Starting point is 00:17:07 Julius Thomas, to me, looked nothing like physically look nothing. like the guy that was dominant in Denver for a couple of years. He looks slow and old, which doesn't translate to me to being a game changer, but maybe it turns back the clock a little bit in Miami. When he signed with the Jaguars for a lot of money, he definitely was on our radar in those old shows about picking potentially perilous, free agent deals. And for the money and for what he was coming out of that offense in Denver
Starting point is 00:17:36 to go to Jacksonville with what the lack of they had there, it was a disaster. but I like the idea of pairing him again with Adam Gase. Adam Gase knows, A, what kind of practice player he was under Adam Gase in Denver and what his potential is and how he can be used in Adam Gase's offense. So I like the landing spot there better than him signing with some other team with a team that has no idea what he'd be like in the building. So it's a chance to revive your career.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I don't think we know who he is right now. When he got to Jacksonville, the beat writer spent that whole offseason and summer before he ruptured a tendon in his finger saying he was the best player on the field in all their practices. And then he came back from the hand injury in October and he had no chemistry with Blake Bortles whatsoever and he looked overweight. So that ruined his first year in Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:18:27 His second year, he has multiple injuries and ends with a fractured tailbone and is even worse in that year. So it's been injuries and no chemistry with Blake Borders. The durability is a skill. That's the reason why some people were, worried about him as a free agent. He wasn't very good in his last year in Denver, which he was also hurt for. So he hasn't really been healthy much for his whole career. He's never played more than
Starting point is 00:18:51 14 games. That was his one breakout year. He played 14. That was 2013 when the Broncos broke all those records. And the two years before that, he missed due to ankle injuries too. That said, for one year, and I would say this is true on both sides of the deal, you're not paying the signing bonus. You're not paying tons of guaranteed money, why not? Like Brandon and Albert, you know, I would not group him with Julius Thomas as a bad free agent signing. He was a great free agent signing. He gave two years of top level left tackle play, or at least one year, and then an okay
Starting point is 00:19:23 year. And then last year he was hurt. He played through an injury. It wasn't great. They have to pay him $8 million. You know, so what? They got $60 million in cap room. They don't have to pay him anything.
Starting point is 00:19:31 It's worth a shot. They're flipping, like, low, low level draft picks. You look at who's picked in the seventh round. in the NFL draft. I would take a chance on Julius Thomas in Adam Gase's scheme over whatever you're going to get in the seventh round.
Starting point is 00:19:43 But it is a reminder that the Miami is in this cycle. Like who is Julius Thomas replacing? Jordan Cameron. There was another, let's take a shot on a guy the other team doesn't really want in the middle of his career for different reasons. But just taking a gamble on a free agent, that one didn't pan out.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Let's replace them with another. Some other Dolphins news to hit. News from both teams, actually. The Dolphins signed Cameron Wake to a two-year contract. So Wake, who came to the NFL later in his career as getting another contract now because he continues to play at a really high level. He had 11.5 sacks in the 2016 season and has 81.5 in his eight-year career. And I can tell you, these little math, it's just over 10 sacks per season on average.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Well done. How you like that? Cameron Wake, it's amazing what he did coming off of a ruptured Achilles. was phenomenal last year playing as well as ever. He's astounding that age hasn't mowed him down yet. Well, this was, you know, and we're going to talk about it on our hit on up to the minute on Thursday about the Dolphins spending that, you know, one of the reports this week, Ian Rapport said, you know, get ready for them to spend a lot.
Starting point is 00:20:53 This was the deal that told me, okay, they're clearing the decks because this is an accounting move. This is just pushing money into the future to lower Cameron Wake's number, give him a little extra guarantee in 2018 reward him and like hey let's clear some money so we can go spend it again cannon bomb time they did it last year too he got an extension last year with all due respect to rap sheet it would be news if the dolphins were not preparing to make a big splash and free agency speaking of clearing the decks and also age mowing people down the dolphins are saying goodbye to Mario Williams on Thursday that the team released the veteran defensive end on Thursday also parting ways
Starting point is 00:21:33 with defensive tackle Earl Mitchell. The release of Williams, not a big surprise, 32 years old, just a sack and a half last year. Not far from the guy he was in his Texans in Buffalo Hayday, and one last note. The Jaguars also in off-season remake mode, they cut ties with defensive lineman Jared Odrick, who signed a five-year,
Starting point is 00:21:55 $42.5 million contract with Jacksonville in 2015. So the 29-year-old will go So elsewhere, Jacksonville says goodbye to Jared. Mario and Revis, Mario Williams and Revis will have to decide do they want to keep playing football for like a 700% pay decrease or whatever the number is, you know, 400% because that's what they're going to have to do. They might just decide, nah. Well, we know that Mario Williams is 100% plugged in.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I don't know if you are familiar with Jared Adrick's Instagram account, but he did not look too disturbed when he received the news of his release. He had an, yeah, he had an Instagram of him essentially celebrating on the beach. He had the phone, he was pointing at it with a smile, and he's in like a bathing suit on some exotic beach in the middle of the Pacific. Is that kind of like I'm a happy guy, this isn't going to bother me, or like I'm happy to get out of Jacksonville? I think it was more like I've got no care in the world.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Football season's over. We'll address this. I've made millions and guaranteed money already. Does that how you anticipate your NFL media career ending in Instagram photo? are you on the beach, a hard body from the Tom Brady diet and pointing to your Instagram. I mean, in this case, they would call, they wouldn't call me. They wouldn't even do the courtesy of that.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Could have gotten, if it wasn't so rainy this weekend, could have gotten some hot, you know, Sessler bodpicks with your family. Well, unlike Greg's Facebook page from a couple years ago, I don't post shirtless photos of myself on Facebook. I have never posted it. Well, they got out there somehow. Greg got banged on social media a couple of years back.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I believe was your father-in-law? posted beach shots of you, like paparazzi, like beach shots. Once I was made aware of it, I immediately deleted. Well, that's my point. I stay, I pre-position myself for that not to happen. Let's move to the Bay Area,
Starting point is 00:23:46 where Kyle Shanahan, of course, now the head coach of the 49ers. And he, you know, there's a lot of people tying Kirk Cousins. Of course, their work together in D.C., that perhaps that this would be a perfect match if the Niners wanted to make a hard run if cousins became available. But that's kind of pie in the sky stuff. And Kyle Shanahan confirmed that in a interview with CSN Bay Area. You're not
Starting point is 00:24:14 trying to commit everything to one year. Shanahan explained, yes, you want to win right away. That's the goal of everybody. But you don't want to do that at the expense of hurting your future. You don't want to gamble. You want to be aggressive in everything, but you got to do what's right. You have to build your team the right way. And that's what I mean by being patient. Chris Wessling, you wrote the piece on around the NFL. He's got the big juicy contract. He has the ability to stay patient, right? Well, I think he understands they're not a veteran quarterback away from contending. This is one of the worst rosters in the NFL. And like you said, he's got six years. That's a wide birth to institute a rebuilding project. And we've seen NFL insiders have been circling
Starting point is 00:24:53 Kirk Cousins like sharks with chum being thrown from the boat waiting for something to happen with this guy and maybe... You're just filling airtime. Kirk Cousins has... He's not going to sign. He's not going to negotiate his long-term deal until after they place the franchise tag on him.
Starting point is 00:25:09 That's what he's come out and said. So he's going to get 44 million over two years, 43 million over two years. There's only 23 players in the history of the NFL who've ever made 100 million in a career. Kirk Cousins is a chance to be part of that group. Oh, it's going to happen, barring an injury, because he'll make that money this year. He'll get it next year, whether it's from San Francisco or someone else.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Kyle Shanahan, I think the 49ers are one of the prime teams, though, and I'm not breaking any news here, to watch out for Jimmy Garoppolo. Well, you don't break news. I thought you're going to say to watch out for Kirk Cousins in 2018. Maybe. Wait, I didn't even call for this, but it happened. For the truth, go to the sooos. Holy hell.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Jesus are in the morning. Holy hell. Yeah. That drops worth it just to watch Mark's face as it's genuine discomfort. I hit a home run at the Super Bowl, got that big scoop. You can do it too. Here's all I'd say is that if you're calling yourself some sort of Woodward and Bernstein, those guys went piece by piece with the case until it ultimately was cracked.
Starting point is 00:26:13 This Jersey case has gone on and on and now it's going to new avenues. You've got to keep breaking the news. You've got to keep breaking it to be a newsbreaker. I am following the story closely if you're reading the end around. I'm all over it. Now, am I going to continue to break every avenue? I mean, if we're going to continue to play that, that would be appropriate. I have breaking news coming.
Starting point is 00:26:32 It's coming. I promised it last week. I think that you would owe the podcast listeners more breaking news to continue with that sound drop. I have a feeling that drop's going to hang around just because of how much it angers you. Well, it's, I just think that there's a juxtaposition and logic in playing it. sure when you know at this point we're three weeks removed from that news being broken well good for you that's what we're heading toward i think with this drop i'm more annoyed a little bit with this with there is all this patience around kyle shanhan all of a sudden and it's like this this this is really nice but
Starting point is 00:27:07 this honeymoon this honeymoon is going to come crashing to an end i feel like in a way wow i'm not saying i'm not saying he won't be successful but i can think of a team a year ago that was saying we might get a quarterback. We might not. They're a terrible team and we might pass on a quarterback at number two and treat it completely differently. I mean, I understand that Kyle Shanahan is the bell of the ball right now. Can you give him a chance? Wait, what do you mean treated differently? The Browns could not have been more positively reviewed. I just think he's sort of saying everything. You want to be aggressive. You don't want to commit. You want to commit. It's like we get it, Kyle Shannon. It's like what you're saying a little bit is I don't know if we're
Starting point is 00:27:45 going to get our quarterback and I have to PR that angle because that might be what happens. We might not get Cousins. We might not get Jimmy Gropolo. We might not want a drafting one at number two. And we might go into the season with nothing at quarterback. Everyone be prepared for that. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:00 The difference is Kyle Shanahan has yet to even get a chance at free agency or the draft. The Browns went through the draft and decided they didn't want Carson wins. Yeah. I mean, that's a big difference. I just think, like, I just think before we just crown Kyle Shanahan with everything in the NFL, I want to just see it happen. I think Niners fans want to see it happen too. I think Mark's fired up on ATN Media Insider
Starting point is 00:28:22 and Kyle Shannon just got the blow torch because of... That might be true. But I believe what I just said. I do think that is a media group up there. The reporters in San Francisco are exhausted with what that team has done. This is a nice fresh start,
Starting point is 00:28:37 but the honeymoon's not going to last long if they're suddenly one and nine and they're telling us about how patience and it doesn't work in any city. That could be another role for you. Sessler, insider, Dan Hansis, he breaks through and tells you what was really going on behind the tape. What was really going on is what I said. If I can't break more news, I'll have to transition into Sessler Take Insider. Finally,
Starting point is 00:29:05 tropeanat, tropeanat, tropeanat, tropeanat, tropeanat. Yes, it's that time of year, folks. We're starting to head into the point of the NFL calendar where everything is. is hunky dory at all 32 teams nothing possibly could go wrong and everything and every move that was made is working like gangbusters moves like the decision by jim ursay uh to hire uh chris ballard as the team's gm to replace uh the late one he's i mean die yeah that's ryan grigson that would be breaking news yeah the former gm of the cults ryan grigson and a big problem of course in the dynamic between Grigson and Pagano is that they didn't get along. And that was very public fodder.
Starting point is 00:29:53 It was a soap opera. But Ursaid tweeted on Sunday that GM Chris Ballard and Chuck Pagano are, quote, clicking on all cylinders. Every cylinder. Click. Tropic a lot. Click. And when you're clicking on all cylinders. I don't know if you know about cars.
Starting point is 00:30:13 I'm kind of a big time car guy. Get under that hood and I plug those spark plugs. and then I twist the engine nugs and I use the wrench to use the wrench to make the motor fastener and when those cylinders are all going together top performance. I mean I think I'm probably three or four
Starting point is 00:30:32 in car guy category in this room. Not a lot of common men. You don't have a car guy in this room. We're missing a car guy in this room. I mean, but are we? We're also missing a directional guy. Oh, we are the ones. worst with direction.
Starting point is 00:30:48 If we go to a league event and we have to navigate in a city, when Greg is the one leading away, which means that there's at least two wrong turns, and that's not a shot at you. You're the best of the group. You're the best. I just don't mind being wrong every time. Patra.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I'll just be like, all right, I'll be the one. Patra showed some actual promise in the direction category. Oh, Patrick, that could work. Let's make sure we get Patrick at every league event going forward, just to make sure we can get from point A to point A. Anyway, so yeah, everything is going beautifully in Indiana. And the owner of the cults wants you to know that. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:20 That's what's happening in the news. That's the first of West. That's the first of many tropes to come. You know that. It's a trope filled offseason. All right. Mark will be writing an article on each one of those. Oh, no, I will not.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Greg gained great fame earlier today with a PC rode on NFL.com about free agency. And I like the way you put it in your headline, Greg, a fun player edition. you're like this just the right amount of looseness for for my comment here don't take me too seriously here guys we're just having fun hey there's an extra week now before the combine we got we got to write some stuff let's have a little fun play matchmaker just frolicing in the park let's have a little fun here yeah and that's the one that gets nationally broadcast all the like the hard work research post driven post you've written in the past five years here at NFL media that's the one that's the one that's the one that's the one
Starting point is 00:32:14 that goes national go figure i'm not going to complain you know when i know i learned a lot of people watch first take that was a surprise or at least have it on with the sound off yeah block them block those people from your life that's true all right so let's go around the room here uh greg wrote a whole bunch of them and you could check out on nfl dot com and i'm sure he'll be sharing one of them that are on the list uh that is on the list uh so why don't we start with you Greg. Mix things up a little bit. If you would care to share a fun player edition from either the
Starting point is 00:32:50 AFC or the NFC, anything that makes your engine nugs really rotate. I was trying to think of the right. That's car talk. An engine nugget. Go ahead. I was trying to think of the right spot for Jason Pierre Paul. You know, I tried to sign out most of these big name free agents. Who really needs a pass?
Starting point is 00:33:08 Everyone needs a pass rush. There's no pass rushers available. but there was one coach recently saying a pass rusher is a must this off season. Sean Payton. There is one coach in GM who now feel a little uncomfortable because the 7 and 9 bullshed crown has gone from Los Angeles and it's in New Orleans, seven and nine three straight years. Isn't it weird that I already forgot his name, Jeff Fisher, was the guy that got destroyed for that. And, you know, after the hard knocks thing, it made sense.
Starting point is 00:33:42 but it was truly Sean Payton who should be the guy that gets that 7 and 9 BS tag. Three straight years. This feels really like a do-or-die. They have to win. And this is a team that is not afraid
Starting point is 00:33:53 to act a little desperate in free agency any season. I mean, they're the ones who signed Jaris Byrd. Jai Ruse Bired. Jairus Bired. They'll bring in guys. They've had a lot of misfires
Starting point is 00:34:06 over the last few years. This year they actually have some cap room for once. They got $30 million in cap room. They need the defense event. And you could just see him spending a little too much. But Pierre Paul is a good player. I wouldn't knock them for it.
Starting point is 00:34:18 They really need it badly. Also, I like the name Pierre Paul. This is where the fun comes in. The name Pierre Paul in New Orleans. It just sort of works. That is great fun. It works. Can they possibly pull it off when their general manager spends 92% of his time running the pelican?
Starting point is 00:34:35 They ought to melanchet. I do like that angle, you got. You've been pushing that for multiple years. It's obnoxious. And maybe it does play a role in the fact that they can't Well, your time and half. We're an NBA team and an NFL team. See how that goes for you.
Starting point is 00:34:45 You know, they just brought in boogie cousins to the Pelicans. That was actually. The NBA knowledge for Mickey Loomis. Now you get Jason Pia. NBA media insider Greg Rosenthal, NBA NFL media insider, Greg Rosenthal. That was a complete steal by the Pelicans to get cousins from Sacramento, Mark. So maybe that's probably when Loomis was focusing on the Saints. They ought to melt that one Lombardi trophy they have.
Starting point is 00:35:10 fashion it into a shopping cart and kick it back and forth between them and the Miami Dolphins to decide who wins the off-season championship every year. Because neither of them are competing with the way they approach free agency. Jaros Bird is hurt right now.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Wow. It's just cruel. Saints, you know, don't feel bad, too bad for them. Saints fans are enjoying this Falcons loss like their team won the Super Bowl. I think that says something about your fan base when you get all your pleasure from the pain of another franchise.
Starting point is 00:35:39 It shows you're vindictive. And it's a great rivalry. I've always said so. I will now throw a player out there. And actually, Greg, I did not see this before making this connection. Nice. But you and I are on the same page with Eddie Lacey, the Green Bay Packers. Now, I know the Packers parted ways with James Starks
Starting point is 00:35:59 and it potentially clears the path for a reunion in Green Bay with Eddie Lacey. But he's also because of his injuries and some of the conditioning. issues and his value is a little depressed right now. So I don't think you need to like go create. You could overpay him a little bit without breaking the bank and get him out of Green Bay because I feel like Ted Thompson isn't going to fight too hard to keep Eddie Lacey in my opinion. So now I think about where Eddie Lacey be a fit. And I've talked about this. It happened in 2007 with Randy Moss. It happened with Chris Hogan last year. I can name a hundred other times where and many, you don't have to be a Jets fan. You can be an AFC fan.
Starting point is 00:36:40 where the Patriots make one move every offseason, and you think to yourself, fuck, that's a perfect fit, and there's no way that guy's not going to be great. And I think Eddie Lacey on the New England Patriots next year makes a lot of sense. And Ligarrett Blunt had, I think, 18 touchdowns last year, which is excellent.
Starting point is 00:36:58 But does anybody really scared of Ligarup Blunt? Is he somebody you have to game plan around? Like, I could see them getting younger, getting Lacey, who's a more dynamic version of Blunt. and he plugs in right there and he also has double-digit touchdowns only he does it in a way that makes their offense much better whereas Blunt is kind of a between
Starting point is 00:37:18 the tackles grinder. Hate the idea of it, but I could see it happen. It's not fun to me, Greg. I think it sounds fun and he'd be the same age as Laguerre Blunt was when he first arrived in New England. Greg, do you think that they are going to they'll prioritize on any level bringing Blunt back or is he gone? He says he wants to go back to New England,
Starting point is 00:37:37 but no. It depends what you mean by prioritized. I think they'll have a number for him. It would probably be like two years, $5 million total, which is not much. And if he wants to go somewhere else, they'll let him. Because Lacey gives you the same thing, and he's younger. They'll wait it out. I don't anticipate, well, I don't anticipate that they would make running back their first priority.
Starting point is 00:37:59 So if Blunt wants to sign a contract in the first day or two, then it will be elsewhere. This is like the Facebook movie. Dan thinks a million dollars cool A billion dollars is cool You want to get the other fan bases in the AFC All hacked off Oh no dropping F bombs Forget Eddie Lacey
Starting point is 00:38:16 Patriots are signing Adrian Peterson Wow A fun free agent fit topped In a big spot Why do I feel like Eddie Lacey Would scare me more than Adrian Peterson in 2017 I don't know Eddie Lacey was even fatter by the last year
Starting point is 00:38:32 than he was the year before I don't know why Eddie Lacey would scare anybody right now, but Adrian Peterson, here's what the Patriots do when the rest of the league zigs, they zag. And Bill Belichick has said one of the reasons, they always draft late in the first round, so what they have to do is become an outlier. And we've heard for the last three weeks that no general manager is going to pay Adrian Peterson this offseason. And I don't think they will. I think the Patriots can get in front on a one-year, $5 million deal or something like that. And we've seen this act before. That would lead to an F as well.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Corey Dillon rushed for 1,700 yards almost when New England basically parachuted him out of Cincinnati in an awful Bengals organization, installed him as their leadback. And I know James White and Dionne Lewis are going to play on passing downs, but LaGarrett Blunt rushed 300 times and had 18 touchdowns in a regular season. The Patriots don't want Tom Brady throwing as much now as he did three or four years ago where he carried the offense. They ran the ball almost 50% of the time last year. Peterson what a way to go out because there aren't that many more years and I know that does not make Dan happy but it's the Patriots can pay less for players because of what the other side of it is Peterson and Lacey I guess to a lesser extent makes sense to me because the Patriots what Belichick does well is he focuses on what you can do he's not worried about what Peterson
Starting point is 00:39:54 can't do he's not going to act he's not worried about the passing downs for Peterson he's not worried about how he's going to go out like they've got people for that it's the same thing with Blunt. Blunt's a limited player, but he does what he does well. He scored 18 touchdowns. How many could Peterson score? Right. Lacey and Peterson, you know, even more are kind of like that. They're not complete players, but they wouldn't need to be in it. My counter to this is that the Patriots are smart, obviously. There's a reason why it's not just Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, the way they've built the team.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And I have the feeling that Peterson is going to get overpaid by someone in this office. He's someone that will buy, that has a lot of money to spend and will buy into this idea that he's still Adrian Peterson. And I don't think the Patriots are going to overpay to get Adrian Peterson in the building at age 32, and I think that's why he'll end up. I would even put a sandwich on that. I agree. My whole
Starting point is 00:40:43 idea is based on the fact that the rest of the league, the other 31 teams do not want to pay Adrian Peterson. Who is going to pay him? I could see the the bucks have been the one team. Because he mentioned the bucks too. Yeah, it's partly because he mentioned them. And actually, if you go back to the Giants too, he did mention
Starting point is 00:40:59 the Giants too, if you go back and watch a video where Peterson is talking with his agent during his big standoff with the Vikings two years ago, his agent is wearing a Buccaneers hat, which seemed like a very, like, transparent move. Like, hey, we can get some money from that. And I think he fits their offense well. I just think he fits what Dirk Cutter would like. One of those beatwriters in Tampa Bay said recently they did not expect Doug Martin to be cut. Finally, Mark Sessler, give us something fun.
Starting point is 00:41:27 All right, well, so it's all New England gets better by adding Adrian Peter. or Eddie Lacey or both and seven other players. And they go, right, how about this? We talk about the New York Jets, the team that everyone just presumes will just sit in the basement. And we acknowledge they might be in a little bit of a rebuild. A little bit. Why not make this season totally bizarre and strange for the Jets fans? You cut Revis, you cut some other junk players on that team, you got some money to spend.
Starting point is 00:41:53 You go out. None of these guys are going to break the bank, at least most of them. Here's what you do. You sign Kenny Britt. Oh, my God. Kenny Stills, Ken Dillwright, and then you sign Brandon Myers, Brandon Marshall. You bring him back. Whatever is he under contract?
Starting point is 00:42:10 You bring him back. You keep him on the roster. You get Brandon Lafell. You get Brandon Tate, and you take Brandon Bolden away from the Patriots. He's a free agent. And then you just line up your offense with Kenny's all over the field and Brandon's all over the field. And the Patriots in week one are like, I got Kenny, which Kenny, that Kenny. There's three Kenneys.
Starting point is 00:42:28 No one knows what's going on. There's, I got Brandon. in the backfield, but there's four other brand and spread out in the formation. And the Jets have it's the K brand kids offense. You just send defenses into total hyper confusion and you score at least two extra
Starting point is 00:42:42 touchdowns a game by keeping the defense in absolute. They're comestified. I love it. The guy is drunk. I love it. They don't cost you that much money. It's stupid and insane but it would be potentially fun. And there's Jets fans are not going to have a lot of fun next year unless we
Starting point is 00:43:00 signed every Brandon and every Ken in the business. And you don't need to worry about snaps left for Eric Decker and Quincy at Noonois, but we'll work them in. What if they changed their name? Kenny Decker. That was surprised to see Brandon and Newmire so heavily involved. I'll agree to this on one condition that at week one halftime, Ring of Honor, Ken O'Brien.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Oh, there you go. See, with Kenny Albert announcing the game. All right. That was fun. I had fun there. I had fun. Ring of Honor, Ken O'Brien would be, you know, the most desperate, desperate move since they gave Shane Graham a one-day contract in Cincinnati on Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Which was the most desperate move since the Jaguars gave Paul Spicer a one day? Spicer. That's the one-day Contract Hall of Fame, Paul Spicer. Was that the one where they had the marching band in the room? Was, no. Wait, are you thinking of Jordan Gross? I'm thinking of Grossie. You got in trouble with Panthers fans on that one.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Gross is out. They blew that out. That was a gross out. All right. Finally, let's talk a little bit, a little Tony Romo talk. I mixed a cupcake in a brownie. I'm calling it a crowny. Tony Romo is most likely going to be a free agent in case you haven't heard, but he could
Starting point is 00:44:19 also be traded. So Chris Wessling took all the information. He added his fingertips. And he looked back into the history of the NFL and also looked into the future. he went in all directions the time space continuum to bring us a piece as I look forward in my paper
Starting point is 00:44:36 headline ranking the potential landing spots for Tony Romo and Wes you brought up a I thought a really solid comparison not that it's exactly apples to apples but after Brett Favre and the Packers had their breakup
Starting point is 00:44:53 and Brett Farr and the Packers and Tony Romo and the Cowboys both are completely synonymous with each other. And it was not easy to get Brett Favre out of Green Bay, but they did it, but it was a messy ending to the end of
Starting point is 00:45:09 his tenure, and maybe that happens with Romo, too. There are some similarities. They're about the same age. People forget that if Brett Favreve had not torn his biceps and played through that injury at the end of the year and basically sabotaged the Jets season,
Starting point is 00:45:24 they were a legitimate threat for the Super Bowl that year. Eight and three after beating the Patriots. without Tom Brady out for the season with an ACL. Called my dad after the game. I said, Dad, this is it. We're going to do it. And then he had that secret biceps injury. Which he played through, and he played terribly through it.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I don't know if you give him credit for that, but it. I thought it was a little selfish. It's not like Kellyn Clemens was going to take them to the problem. It's selfish. It's up to them to bench him. It's not his fault. He wants to keep playing. Yeah, Brett, yeah, Brett Farb.
Starting point is 00:45:53 He was a team first guy all the way in his career. The comparison I made was because there was a lot. of back channel maneuvering. Brett Farve wanted to go the Vikings. The Packers wouldn't let him. So he said, I want to go to the Lions. They're not going to compete with you atop the NFC North or NFC North.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Packers wouldn't let him go there. It was either the Jets or the Bucks. Farv wanted to go to the Bucks. Packers said, no. We like the Jets package better. Bus Cook, Farv's agent, called Mike Tannenbaum, who was the Jets general manager at the time,
Starting point is 00:46:23 said you're making a big mistake. This wasn't smart at all. Farv's not coming to New York. And to Tannenbaum's credit, he went through with it anyway. and force the trade to happen. I'm not saying the relationship between Romo and the Cowboys are that contentious, but if you're looking for a reason why a trade would happen instead of a release,
Starting point is 00:46:38 all of these last-minute surprises or back-channel maneuvering between agents and teams, who knows what could happen between now and March 9th. I agree, and yet I don't see the team that's got to, like, it basically would be, all the teams sort of have to call the Cowboys bluff and just wait for them to release them. And I don't see the team that's going to jump off of that. I'd be like, actually, we will give you a third drop. That would be the comparison that no one saw the Jets as a team that was going for far. They had Pennington at the time.
Starting point is 00:47:07 The Chiefs are the team, to me, I think, that make the most sense to just come out of nowhere as a surprise. But, you know, you got to make sure you close that deal and you get rid of Alex Smith. It's a whole, it's a whole thing. So looking at Wes's list, let's start there, number three, right in the middle list here. You have the Chiefs says, so would this be, that would make them the third most likely, destination is that the way to look at this where the chiefs who have Alex Smith in the building
Starting point is 00:47:34 everything we're hearing Wes about the chiefs is that they're comfortable with Alex Smith they still think he's the guy but still this is a special situation something isn't adding up and maybe it's Andy Reed's history of bold face lying when it comes to quarterbacks to go
Starting point is 00:47:50 in front of press conference and say McNabs my guy and then go with Vic or to say Cobbs my guy and go with Vic or to say this and then trade guys Andy Reid has lied consistently about his quarterback situation. White lies. And he has come out and said, there is no question Alex Smith is my starting quarterback.
Starting point is 00:48:06 He has doubled down on that. It's true right now. And John Dorsey has come out and said, Alex Smith is our starter. But every single NFL insider is lining up to put Romo and the Chiefs as a marriage that could happen. And I think most of it probably is coming from Romo's list that is circulating,
Starting point is 00:48:23 that the Texans, Broncos, and Chiefs, and the Cardinals were on his list. Those four teams have always been on his list, according to the insiders. I just don't see the Chiefs as a serious can. You're going to, four years into Andy Reid's offense, Alex Smith has. I think Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers are the only quarterbacks with more wins since 2011. No matter if Smith's ceiling is limited or not, you're going to risk alienating him or cutting him all together to bring in a guy who's one hit from retirement. I just don't see that adding up.
Starting point is 00:48:55 You said the right word, risk. of all the teams on this list. It's the chiefs that would take a tremendous risk by doing this. And then, of course, Alex Smith gets dispatched somewhere else. And three weeks into the season, you're potentially out with it. We can't predict injuries. But Romo has done this time and time again. And it would look awful for that organization to get rid of Smith,
Starting point is 00:49:15 have Romo come in and get hurt in August or some practice, and suddenly you've gotten nothing. That's, I mean, you can say that for any team that brings in Romo, but they wouldn't have the logical. Bears. Right, but they, they wouldn't have, I'm saying Romo is a massive injury risk for any team. I'm the same.
Starting point is 00:49:33 The risk is getting rid of a guy who's giving you the best record in the NFL since week seven of 2015. The chiefs have the best record in the NFL with Alex Smith as their quarterback. Right, but we're playing both sides of the fence a little because we always knock them for not having to sit. We're not playing both sides of the fence. We're saying in this situation, Romo's too big of a risk, I like the idea of trying to upgrade on Alex Smith. But a guy who's one hit away from retirement isn't the upgrade.
Starting point is 00:50:00 All right. Let's move to number two on Wes's list. And this is this is the team you've heard Romo connected to the most and really going back to last year when Dak Prescott was locked in as the starter, the Denver Broncos, because we know that they have history with this type of situation, an older quarterback and Peyton Manning in the case of a 2015 season, being a part of a loaded defense team with a loaded defense and taking them to the Promise Land. This one checks a lot of boxes, Mark. Why wouldn't it happen? I think because it doesn't have to with Denver. People that watch Trevor Simeon versus just the name Trevor Simeon like his game and see there's a reason to stick
Starting point is 00:50:40 around there with him. And you've got Paxton Lynch, who's a first round quarterback waiting in the wings. You don't have to chase Romo or a veteran in general the way that they semi-courted Colin Kaepernick last year when there was literally nothing at the position. Well, here's my counter to that, is that you know Romo, if he's healthy, would be a huge lift to that offense. Whereas Simeon, a guy that showed some promise in Lynch, who's a total mystery at this point. Every team has Super Bowl windows that are only so large. They have a big window right now to go into. I think it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:51:12 It's just that's why it wouldn't happen because it doesn't have to. But, yeah, if you want to plug Romo into that, what that still would still have on defense. And it's also a different offense. So it's Trevor Simeon in a different offense. It's Paxton Lynch learning a new offense. You know, I don't know if Tony Romo, if they think he's a great fit for that or not. I think it makes a lot of sense. They would be number one on my list, partly because they don't need him,
Starting point is 00:51:34 because they don't have to do it quickly, that they can wait this thing out. It might take a little bit of time, and they don't have a lot of money at quarterback. And that's the difference between them in Houston, which you have number one. They just don't, you know, they're not already paying a quarterback. It's nice for them that they're fine as they are. and they could easily fit Romo in there, I think, if they needed to. And if it dragged on for a while, whether it's a trade or release and everything, we know he wants to go there.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I think everyone's trying to figure out why John Elway isn't gung-ho about Tony Romo. And I think John Elway watched his offensive line last year. That's a recipe for disaster putting Tony Romo behind that offensive line. And I honestly think John Elway, he likes not having to pay a quarterback. He's built his roster now where he pays his defense instead of his quarterback. a good point because Tony Roma. I don't know. He was ready to pay Brock's $16 million. I think you'll pay him if you get the right guy. Tony Romo could not stay healthy behind the best offensive line in the league. And then you would put him in what? Maybe at bottom 10, bottom 15 offensive line last year to see what happens. And I think the Houston Texans, yeah, you have them at number one here, Wes. And they, if you want to make the analogy with the Brett Favs situation, they're the Minnesota Vikings. Absolutely. Because Jared Jones does not. not want Tony Romo to stay in Texas and go to...
Starting point is 00:52:57 I think that's a little overplayed. See, I don't... He'd much rather have Tony Romo in Houston than in the NFC. I don't know. I don't know with Jera. That's the one organization and the one owner where I wonder if that's true. I mean, he doesn't want them sitting in the... He doesn't want to go to the NFC East or a team that's truly a competitor.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I get that. The Texas aren't even like Dallas is competition. No, but the Cowblers are in a whole different league than the Texans as far as Texas fandom is concerned. It would be inside of Texas if Romo suddenly went. That's a huge storyline. Tony Romo and they're-Gerry Jones would be happy for Tony Romo. Oh, I think Jerry Jones really likes Tony Romo and I really think he doesn't want him in the NFC. I don't know if it's the Houston thing, but it's also when you hear these reports like it would be a quick commute and it would be great for Tony Romo.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Like, yeah, that's great for Tony Romo. Tony Romo isn't necessarily choosing his destination. We know this is coming from Tony Romo. Does Bob McNair, who just gave, is literally paying Brock Osweller $16 million in cash this year, no matter what? Is he trusting the decision makers who just convinced, you know, we're part of that decision to bring an Osweller? Okay, go pay another 15 or 16. People are acting like fitting that all under the cap is easy. Okay, make it an incentive.
Starting point is 00:54:14 No, I think you can, I think Tony Romo's made enough money where he's reached the point in his life where he's only. playing for a championship. I think you can get him to accept $8 or $9 million or whatever. There's been talk from the insiders and whatnot that he wants a raise. He wants more money. I don't think he's taking a dot.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Well, this is the end for Tony Romo. This is your last couple chances to make money. I mean, you have to have a priority. What is your priority? Winning a championship or make money. I think if it's make money, then you can't take the position that you don't want to play for the Bears or Bills
Starting point is 00:54:46 or rebuilding team. That is she probably thinks he could do both. He probably thinks he can make money and pick a contender or get to a contender. And maybe we have no idea. We're obviously just guessing. I don't know how Bob McNair and Rick Smith, but especially Bob McNair feels about that. It's just an extraordinary example that you can't find really another that ever happening in NFL history,
Starting point is 00:55:08 that they're paying two guys at the exact same position top level money. I don't expect them to pay Romo top level money. He's not. He's making. If he's starting, he's making $15 million. if he plays all 16 games. Even if he doesn't change his salary, he's one of the lowest paid starting quarterbacks in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:55:26 And also, you haven't seen this in history because the NFL salary cap has never been $168 million. They're a little tighter to the cap than that's one advantage, Denver. And I guess, you know, Buffalo and other teams have is the Texans are a little tighter to the cap even despite, you know, even if you ignore that Osweiler's getting all that money. By the way, Dan, it was only about 82 days ago that Greg released his Tony Rob.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Romo's post-Cowboys landing spots. Now Wes has one in the books. That means that this drags on. You and I will be next. One of us will be writing the next version of this. It's going to be happening. And it is, speaking of Tony Romo, Mark, you said all the things you were excited about to cover this offseason.
Starting point is 00:56:07 And you pointed out that Tony Romo, you were not excited, I think was the wording that was written. So this segment is probably been pretty tough on you. No, I think this was handled with class. And I think, I'll tell you what else. If he goes to a team that makes a boring team exciting, that's good for everyone. I don't want it to be this. There's ways it could be very tedious.
Starting point is 00:56:27 The way they covered Tony Romo breathlessly from the sideline during every Cowboys game last season, that's what tired of me out. I'm over that as well. Yeah. And Wes, you could check out Wes's piece at NFL.com slash wrestling. If you want to see the whole list, is there anything else you wanted to add Wes that we haven't touched on before we go? Despite Greg's efforts to the contrary, I'm kind of... I love that qualifier.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Go. I'm kind of excited about the state of quarterback play in the NFL. You know, Greg's trying to get Nick Fools and Mike Lennon jobs. I'm trying to get Tony Romo and Jimmy Garoppolo jobs after they didn't start that. Oh, really out on the limb. Of course they're having any jobs. No one... No, the point is...
Starting point is 00:57:10 Hate to see this, Mark. You take those two, and then you throw in Jake Huttler as one of the top 30 quarterbacks in the NFL. Three guys who didn't start last year. You throw them onto new teams. 30? Maybe we'll see. He's 25 in your piece. He dropped five spots?
Starting point is 00:57:23 Cutler? Yeah, I can't stomach him in the top 25. He dropped five spots since. What's today? Today's the 21st. You wrote this on the 20th. He dropped. Where will he be a month from now?
Starting point is 00:57:34 I'll be on the ground. Tyrod too. Tyrod could be changed. I mean, you're not adding him to the mix, but I think he could be changing. I still think the bills have a better chance than people think for Romo. I still think the bills. I put their chances at 0.0.0. Then the Jets are truly in the nether world.
Starting point is 00:57:52 So you think only three teams even have a chance? I don't think Romo's going anywhere whether you're not a contender, and I don't think the bills are close to being a contender. I hate the idea of watching Tony Romo on a cold early October day in Western New York lying on the turf writhing for a two and six bills team. I just, you know. You're Tony Romo. Riving Tony Romo has been his number one move the last year.
Starting point is 00:58:18 You got one or two years left in the NFL and you're going to purposely go to the Patriots division? No. My thought is there's many different possibilities here. Don't you think one of them is that Tony Romo doesn't really have many options that he has to choose between bad options? No, because I think that retirement is a much preferable option. Yeah, that makes sense. I think that gives him a Trump card. You never go full recs, which is you have the choice to get out of.
Starting point is 00:58:48 of Tom Brady's division and you stay in. Well, that's you don't go. You don't go. All right, before we go, let's check behind the glass and check in with Kevin Danger Hansis. And we've been speculating where will Tony Romo end up. But now Kevin Hansis, behind the glass, will give us the definitive answer where Romo will play football, if at all, in 2017.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Let's get a little timpity drum here. In 2017, there you go. Tony Romo will play. Wait, hold. for the Cincinnati Bengals. Wow. I love it. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:59:26 That is a shocker. That makes, that is fascinating. Wow. How about that? Talk about the team. Put us over the top. 100% sure. Danger.
Starting point is 00:59:36 You're 100% sure of this. With great confidence, I can say. Once again. Everyone's going to think you actually talk like that. That's fine. No, I can say with 100% confidence that Tony Romo will play for the Cincinnati. Natty Bengals. I'm looking forward to that.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Do you want to put a sandwich on that? I'm going to put a sandwich on that. What's he like to live in a world where there are no repercussion? I'm looking forward to the Romo Dalton Bengals Browns matchup this year. That would be good. Oh, Dalton's starting for the Brown? Oh, yeah, of course. He was going to bring him over?
Starting point is 01:00:08 Why not? There's a little trickle-down effect. Absolutely. Wow. There you go. All right. That was quite a bold prediction that actually would be fascinating and makes sense. And if he gets it right.
Starting point is 01:00:18 None of us in this room ever write a landing spots column ever again. We just sent it right to danger. No, we just set up a studio in Kevin's Brooklyn apartment, and he does the show from that one. I love that Mark has found logic and dangerous prediction. I think it's true. Why not? Talk about a team that needs.
Starting point is 01:00:35 They could say, we get Tony Romo. It puts this Bengals team that's always on the fringe right over the top. And Andy Dalton is such a nice guy. He won't pout about it. I say you keep him there as your backup. Romo's there. Let's say Romo stays healthy. You're flying, you're flying to the Super Bowl in Minneapolis.
Starting point is 01:00:52 And if he doesn't stay healthy, you got old, they got the glowing ginger man coming off the bench and you still, you'll lose a playoff game in January, but you still have a nice season. So we're talking ourselves into this. Rob. They do have, Kevin said it with a lot of confidence. Hey, let's not point out that, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:06 Tony Romo's barely been able to stay on the field for two straight years, while Andy Dalton's been a top 10 quarterback. God forbid that he lands somewhere that no one predicted around here. It's very possible. They do have a lot of. a cap room and they have an owner has been known to do some unusual things. Danger had a premonition and we'll see
Starting point is 01:01:22 if it plays out. All right. That's a Tuesday show. We'll be back on Thursday with another all new edition of the around the NFL podcast. And again, check us out. We'll be on NFL network on Wednesday. On Thursday, excuse me, and Friday as well, correct? So
Starting point is 01:01:40 up to the minute, live, set your DVRs. Thank you to everyone for listening. That's it Signing up for Quiet Storm The Melman The old boss
Starting point is 01:01:53 A new money behind the glass It's the old zooster To Thursday This is an eye.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.