NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Who Should Be Nervous About The Draft?

Episode Date: April 8, 2019

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal bring you all the latest news around the NFL including the Antonio Brown and Juju Smith-Schuster beef, (7:30) Josh Rosen's potential fit with the Redskins (15:07) and DeMarcus Lawrence's big deal with the Cowboys (19:24). The 2019 Draft is quickly approaching and most people are very excited, but who should be nervous about the upcoming draft? (33:26)Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined in a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. Happy Monday. I got a case of the Mondays. Ugh.

You do? Right? I don't know you see him spry today. Live with a C. I just, you know what? The Monday thing is real. It's like, ugh. It's the worst.

Tuesday, blah. Wednesday. Hump day. Big turning point. Thursday, underrated day. Always has been. Some people call it Friday Jr. Friday, Jr.

The gentleman's Friday. Wes, you are back in Los Angeles, and according to a conversation, according to comments you made in a conversation earlier today, you made your last journey on an airplane ahead of your wedding. That's good. Yeah, I hope it's my last journey. It feels like we've been traveling a lot. Cincinnati was fun.

Bachelor party, no strippers, no poker, no paintball, 100% success. That's next week. Well, the family and friends from Cincinnati bachelor party happened. We're part two of the bachelor's part. Yeah, we're the real part. This was. I thought you were there for the paramour. Well, she had her shower and simultaneously.

It's hard to keep track of this stuff. My brothers threw a bachelor party. We smoked dead animals and through cornhole. It was perfect. That sounds nice. Yeah. And part two will be in San Diego with the around the NFL podcast boys a week from Thursday. We've got some surprises.

We're actually going to smoke live animals. I mean, they won't stay live, but... And as a treat for you, Mark will be eating them in the entirety. Is there any concern? Because, I mean, you know, Lakeisha's had a variety of female-oriented celebrations. I noticed in one of them that there was like a fleet of stripper poles that they were dancing around learning to do jigs and things. A fleet of stripper. I mean, how do you feel about that?

I think it's great. Keisha's a fantastic dancer. She danced in college. It's a gift she has. I don't share that gift, and maybe if I did have that gift, I'd be dancing on stripper pools, too. Well, you're saying all the right things. A bit ironic. You've learned a lot already.

Ironic that it's Wes who says, keep me away from the strippers for the bachelor party. The wife to be. Bring me feet of poles. That's sort of one of my questions about these classes that the girls take. Do you get an actual stripper who's an expert to show you how to do the dances, or do you have some dancer who just kind of learned how to do kind of stripper moves? Like, are you getting the authentic thing or not? Well, you got to ask her.

Ask her what you, let's find out. I did one once. I took a stripping class. Was it an actual stripper? Yeah. An exotic dancer. Yes, yes. It's the preferred nomenclature.

Yes. Although, how do we fact check? I mean, it can tell us that, but how do we? I mean, it is an art. Yeah. It is so much work. It is also hard. It's also hard.

It's also hard. It's also hard. I know that I am not nearly in good enough shape to attempt any of those pool dances. I'll tell you what, though. And you weren't here for our Friday softball recap. You were moving around incredibly well at third base, making every play and hitting the ball very well with authority. You haven't skipped a beat physically, despite many comments that you've made in a self-deprecating manner that physically you're no longer the same man or you're working your way back. You seem to be all-man and then so.

It's very generous of you. I would say the only positive thing I noticed was I definitely have more flexibility than I did a couple of years ago. limber but my wind was gone after the first time i attempted to run i didn't feel very rangy at third base so thank you for saying all that you're welcome and that is actually uh mark's favorite trait in a man limber limber yes oh it there is no it's that than a deep distance to number two all right big show coming up today um interesting again we're in a little weird bubble of the nfl calendar that and it feels particularly pronounced this year i don't know why that just there's not a lot happening, but there's some stupid things happening, and we're going to talk about some dumb things

happening on social media where a lot of dumb things happen. And also, we're going to look ahead to the draft. And specifically, who should be nervous about the draft? When you look at the current rosters and the NFL established players, Greg, who should look at what, you know, Mayock, well, not anymore. Excuse me. Excuse me. The new Mayock. Move the sticks. Who else? We got Zerline, Bucky Brook, Arbs. I think, yeah. I think move the six should be nervous. Well, that's a big, it's a big spot for him, big shoes to fill. But these players, these veterans looking at the draft and how that could change their careers, quite frankly.

We're going to talk about some players who should be a little nervous. I talked to Daniel Jeremiah this morning. He does not seem nervous. He seemed very comfortable and very luxurious in his new role. Happy to be there. Right. Well, it doesn't strike me as a guy that gets a little. The next couple of week, he's prepared. It's when the lights come on and it's showtime. Does he strike you as a nervous guy? You've got the Wednesday mock draft beforehand.

People are keeping score. I mean, that's the big time week. I feel bad for people keeping score on mock drafts. There's got to be something better to do with your. I don't think, yeah. Jared Goff wasn't nervous during the by week, although maybe he was during the by week before the Super Bowl. I've never seen anyone more nervous. I've never seen anyone more nervous than that man.

Before we started the show, we ended up stumbling into an oz-er-net wormhole grape lady who was stomping on grapes and then fell out of the grape thing off the platform. It was going, oh, ow, ow, oh, oh. She had a lot of confidence when she was stomping on the grapes, Greg. And then the lights went up. The cameras were on. And she went tumbling down. I mean, like a lesson learned. Like many of our listeners, I have no idea what you're talking about.

We should I mean we can use that audio You know what we're talking about YouTube it Great lady Falls There's an app for that All right

Let's do some news Listen you're cute There's no getting around it So I don't know if you like Country music But I was thinking maybe one of these days We can drive out to a field Crank up some tunes

Smoke a few Maconudos Maybe even toss a disc around Artway Ude Ude Uday A Mpe Oh wow I mean who else got bombarded in their mentions for not knowing that the DM that Ricky got from a mystery man was actually an Andy Bernard from the office

Pam interaction from season three I'm only a little surprised because I would say Dan you're the biggest office fan I know I certainly was but I that could have slipped past my radar But when the 58th person tells you in a 12-hour span that it was from the office, that's when it really hit home that we pulled it from that show, that it was pulled from that show.

That's when I learned. And I guess there's a lesson there that it's great to have a big audience that we do on this podcast and we're all very proud and happy to have this audience. But we get held accountable when we mess up.

And sometimes it's really annoying. Were you getting hidden much as Greg? You were in there. Your name is honest. I wasn't too active. on social media, I wouldn't say. It's exactly what I need at 10, 14 a.m. I think I muted everyone by now.

I don't know. I think I saw like one of those, but nothing to complain. Yeah, it was relentless. Like it was frankly really annoying. All right. Let's get into it. Antonio Brown, I said there would be something stupid to talk about. Here it is.

Antonio Brown fell out with the Steelers, forced the trade to Oakland. The Steelers got to, about 45 cents on the dollar in the trade. Antonio Brown got a big payday. He essentially got everything you want. Maybe he didn't go to a Super Bowl contender, but he gets to go out west.

He gets to play in Vegas for a franchise that's on TV and people talk about. But for whatever reason, Antonio Brown is not fully willing to let go of his Steelers days and the beefs that were built during that time. Case in point, Juju Smith-Schuster. the reigning team MVP of the Steelers and another superstar in his own right at the position. Antonio Brown went after Juju, specifically, and I'll read it, emotion, boy fumbled the whole postseason in the biggest game of the year.

Everybody went blind, busy, blind to busy, making guys famous not enough reality these days. By the way, check. I can't really, it's hard to read anything Antonio Brown writes because the words are always saying. There's always like multiple words missing. And then Juju Smith-Schuster came back at him. Crazy how big that ego got to take shots at people who show you love. And then Antonio Brown just today, West, Monday. Then I guess another way to try to dig at Juju pulls up an old Twitter DM that Juju sent asking for ways.

He was a wide receiver at USC at the time asking Antonio Brown what he can do to get better and praising his play. He was already a star, and the Steelers Brown was at that point. So that has become the big story of Monday and Wes. I know you're thrilled about it. Your thoughts. Well, I guess it put the lie to the tepid take that Antonio Brown was only acting like a crazy person to get traded and as soon as he got to L.A., dyed his mustache back

to its regular color and will start acting like a normal person. No, I think this is one of the old saying when someone shows you who he is, believe him. I think Antonio Brown has showed us who he is. He's like a small, he's kind of a small, insecure guy, which is not atypical of people at the very tops of their

profession. It's kind of a strange dichotomy of like sometimes people to get to that point have an enormous ego on one hand, but are also incredibly insecure on another. This was in response to a fan pointing out

that Juju won the team That's how it all started. Yeah, won the team MVP, which clearly sticks in Antonio Brown's cross so much that he's sitting there. Who knows what's going on in his life at the time, but he sees that tweet. And he just can't bear to not respond to that because it bothers him so much. And because of all this happening in the last couple days, some people have been sending out this Jesse Washington, I believe, is the name, who wrote an article on Antonio Brown for the undefeated last September, which I missed the first time around. And it details a lot of different ways in which Antonio Brown has kind of been small

and struggled to maintain the personal relationships he's had around him, not just with the mothers of his children, but also his trainers and other people that have been close to him where he's kind of exhibited this same sort of behavior where he just, I don't know, it's not just going heel, it's just kind of being a creed. We had Adi Kinkabwala of NFL network on our show, when we were at the owner's meetings,

and she's been close and around the Steelers for years now for our company. And she said it, and we've heard it from other places, but I trust her coming straight from her to us saying, Antonio Brun just changed at some point through the years. His ego and whatever, his personality and what was around him and the success he had changed who he was as a person. And that led to what you're seeing now. It's just a different person and it doesn't sound like a better person.

I think like the 12-year-old me, I think about this sometimes with Twitter, that when I was young and a huge football fan, it would have been my dream to be able to communicate with players and tell them encouraging things and ask them questions and just learn about their lives. But looking at what happens in general, I do think that we on some level live in a terrible time because this is the perfect example of something where if you have some acts to grind with anyone, go handle it one-on-one. Instead, it becomes everyone's drama, and we all have to deal with it, and it's completely unrewarding for us to have to talk about it, and I don't know who it is rewarding for. Is Antonio Brown coming out of this feeling better about the way he handled? I would imagine, actually, he will self-punish after realizing what this turned into, too. This is, you do it in the end of the moment. You double down on it today, though.

Well, I know, but, like, you get, it's a little, it's like, he said, like, Juju-Smithers said, settle down on the emotion, you know, and he's right. It's like, we've all felt that. I'm guilty. You hit send on a tweet, you hit send on something. You're like, wait, then later you're like, I shouldn't have done that. I think Antonio Brown gets caught in this trap. Just get off it.

You're not helping yourself. I don't know. Too much credit for his level of self-awareness at this point. Well, that's, I know nothing about him. Or introspection. I do think he is very interested in being one of the biggest superstars alive or certainly in sports. I think that's very important to him. And so maybe like, like other people.

who have risen high in this in this country you know he's he's interested in attention for attention's sake and isn't even really picking between good and bad in that article they pointed out he puts more on instagram than literally any than any major athlete like like just by post a little thirsty i mean that's that's he wants the attention on some level good bad or whatever he can find it under a in the dictionary i just don't like attention like that when it's one thing when the student starts to turn on the teacher. You kind of get it. That's the way of life. You think you're better than your dad at basketball in the driveway all of a sudden or

whatever it is. But when it's Antonio Brown turning on juju, to me, something about that's going in the wrong direction. It's just totally unappealing. He's like a 22-year-old kid and he's just mad that he won the Team MVP Award. By the way, thank you to the Steelers again for keeping this team MVP award going. I'm looking forward to them announcing this year that James Washington was the team MVP and then Ben Rathosberger gets pissed.

It's like something new every year. Doesn't Antonio Brown feel a little bit like an off-brand Terrell Owens, a generation later? Yes. And not that Terrell-Oans did things the right way either, but it was something more entertaining. But that was fresher. That was fresher. This is in the category of completely unnecessary and unrewarding to all of us. All right.

And Antonio Browns is more mean. Right. It's more lashing out at people and trying to hurt people. And Terrell Owens was a lot of self-destructiveness. All right. Let's move on. Josh Rosen, a key name around the NFL draft, because as we know, Cliff Kingsbury, the new head coach of the Cardinals, big air raid guy. He is in love with Kyler Murray, they say. And that's going to end with the Cardinals picking Murray with the first overall pick. And that means curtains for Josh Rosen, the quote unquote franchise quarterback in Arizona.

So where is he going to end up? Well, a couple of reports over the weekend surface. ESPN's John Kime believes there is a, quote, solid chance. Kime bomb in a big spot that Washington will trade for Rosen. Peter King in his Monday morning quarterback column called Washington, the quote, favorite in the clubhouse to trade for Rosen. And it certainly, Greg, there certainly makes sense from the standpoint of Alex Smith and Washington is very, it's very in doubt whether he'll play another snap in his career after

that broken leg. Case Keenham heads there and he's no one's idea of even a bridge, I feel like at this point. And Colt McCoy can't stay on the field, just had another leg surgery. Josh Rosen would bring in a, someone with actual true potential going forward and maybe not a too bad of cost. Not at all. I think there's, most teams I think would be well served by giving up a second round pick for Josh Rosen. I really think there's more teams than not in the NFL that I would say that's a good trade. Send your second or maybe it's a high third.

And the Redskins would be high on that list. They're also one of four teams. Albert Breer marked as teams that have contacted the Cardinals asking about Rosen trying to figure it out. It was the Giants, the Chargers, and the Redskins were another one of them. The Giants are, quote, not in love with Rosen, so maybe you could cross them up. The list doesn't seem. It doesn't seem right now that the list.

is that long for people interested in Rosen, but also there's maybe a lot that we don't know. Well, there aren't that many teams that need the starter, but where, like, Rosen is labeled as not a fit for the air raid offense in comparison to Kyla Murray. He does fit with John Gruden. I think that John Gruden is in a make-or-break season. I don't mean...

Jay Gruden, excuse me. I don't know how many years the Redskins want to go on with this front office and this head coach, but this is a quarterback that would fit very well for him. So I think Jay Gruden would absolutely push to do this. The one idea I found fascinating, I think it was from Breer's column, was that in the month or two leading up to the draft, and maybe this goes from February through late April,

draft picks are worth so much more to the people who have them than they are in summertime or the off-season, and why haven't analytics found a way to exploit this gold rush from February to August where a number 50 overall pick in the draft is probably worth what like a number 20 overall pick in the draft is in the fall. It just seems incongruous to me. I think, and I think, and then it,

and then it changes a little bit during the draft. Right. And the Patriots have taken advantage of that. There was a study of, like, who's done the most pick swap trades. And they've done, like, a third of the pick swap trades in the entire league over the last 10 years. And because I think once you get down to draft day, then people just have guys that they want and that they're willing to give them up. And for the record, Josh Rosen appears to be attempting to minimize the drama around the situation.

he did report to the opening of Arizona's off-season conditioning workouts. And not only did he report, according to Ian Rappaport or NFL Media Insider, he was the first man in the building. Was he listening to Chas Castorley, Greg? I mean, did he beat the janitor in? Be the first man in the building. Beat the generator guy into the building. Beat the refrigerator guy into the building.

Beat the masseuse into the building. Do we, do they just have key cards? I mean, who is even confirming this? It's just No one's there to confirm it. The janitor came in the morning. Rosen was there at like 3.30 in the morning. Be like, hey, no one's here.

How does everyone, even anyone going to know? He could, I mean, he could go in there at like two in the morning and then take a nap for seven hours. He could have done that too. Slept under the desk like Costanza. You know, the whole first one in, last one to leave culture or quote, I don't know. It's overrated.

It's overrated because we're not. We're not the first ones in the building. So to us, it's overrated quality. If you're talking about it, it doesn't mean that much. The Cowboys and DeMarcus Lawrence got it done. They agreed Friday to terms on a five-year, $105 million contract. $65 million of that guaranteed rap sheet and Mike Garifolo reported. That is the most guaranteed money ever for a non-quarterback

and also the highest first year payout for a non-QB. The previous record for a defensive player was Khalil Mack. He made $31 million in 2008. Lawrence Mack and Aaron Donald are the only three defensive players. averaging more than 20 million per season. Chris Wessling, Lawrence, turns 27 this month. I believe he is, he's going to have back surgery? Yes.

Shoulder surgery, excuse me, coming up. So that is not inconsequential to this, but your thoughts on the signing. Not only not inconsequential, but to me, the most interesting part of this was the leverage he had because of that surgery. He had played through a torn labrum in his shoulder all of last year and part of 2017 the Cowboys wanted him to get this surgery and he, you know, it's a big deal for a player to undergo serious major surgery

so he said, I'm not doing it, I'm willing to wait until the week before the training camp to do this which would have put a season in jeopardy and the Cowboys said, no, we want you to do it now and they were able to find common ground on this because they wanted him to have the surgery probably a month or two ago.

It's a reminder for teams that have guys on the tag now that if the best case scenario happens and the guy stays healthy and plays well, you're going to pay for it. Because, you know, Lawrence, I read a breakdown that he was asking at one point for less money than Trey Flowers got from the Patriots, I mean, from the Lions rather. Not even that long ago he was asking for that. And then suddenly Trey Flowers signs and it's like, okay, that's the starting point. We're going to get more than that.

So the longer you wait and don't get a deal done, which they maybe could have done during last season, you end up paying a lot more. It's interesting that Stephen Jones, their VP, now coming out and saying that any deal that they get together for Dak Prescott, now in quotes, must be team friendly. It's like, okay, well, so, you know, you've not solved all your problems. DeMarcus Lawrence has been an all-pro caliber player for the last two years. He comes in right under Von Miller and Killeo Mack, which is where he should be. I mean, I'm not as down on DAC as Greg is, who just can't stand him. Oh, that's not true.

He's fine. He's a fine quarterback. But if I were the Cowboys, I would say the same thing to Dack Prescott. You need to take a team-friendly ball out. He has a chance to be like a more entertaining Andy Dalton type career. That's what I'm saying. That's a little doubt. Sort of a, I don't know, he seems to me more of a Donovan McNabb.

That'd be all right, though. I mean, to Marcus Lawrence, by the way, like three years ago, it's crazy. Or two years ago was like a bust coming off suspension, one sack. Change that narrative. You'd change it pretty fast. All right, a little draft talk. Peter King, I believe in that same Monday morning quarterback column. Here's that Ohio State quarterback, Dwayne Haskins, is, quote, sinking.

And he might be the fourth of those QBs. Let's go over again. Kyler Murray presumed at number one. Drew Locke, Daniel Jones, and Dwayne Haskins. A lot of people say, oh, we won't be surprised of all four of those players go in the first round. And Haskins all of a sudden, according to this report, may be the last one off the board. and Rapsheet reported that Haskins will visit with the Broncos and there they are again, the Redskins this week.

Well, this brings to mind a quote from Daniel Jeremiah Monday morning. Note to self, everything you hear for the next two weeks will be a lie. I mean, how do you know whether to believe this Haskin stuff or not? It could be anything. Lance Zerline had a similar take to the King article calling the perceived draft stock, quote, more media created than. team driven. Well, that's, I mean, all, I think it's fair, though, for us to completely ignore every mock draft

ever, or anyone who wants to do that, you're going to be fine if you don't look at a single mock draft, but it's also fair if you're doing them to push all these quarterbacks up, because you can act like you're smarter than everyone, and Dwayne Haskins is less valuable than some defensive tackle in terms of actual pure talent, but every single year these quarterbacks get overinflated and move up. And I would be surprised if he went back, went past the Bengals, to be honest with you. I mean, they talked about him having some similar traits to Jared Goff and that Zach Taylor has done a ton of quarterback work and sees some similarities there.

Who knows? It's weird because there are tons of guys who teams reach for quarterback-wise, but there are also tons of guys who are still in the green room or fall to the second round when you think they're going to top 10. Right. He has the qualities like anticipate. and seeing the field that is believed to be some of his better attributes. That's what I like as a prospect.

That is what a Zach Taylor, I think, would like. But you're right, also, West, some of these times, it's just impossible to know. Sometimes these little whispers, and people thought Mike Mayack was crazy for believing the whispers that Aaron Rogers was going to fall in the draft, and he knew. We thought Johnny Manzel would be top ten. People like mocked him at the time, like, oh, you're insane where that's coming from. And there you go. Brady Quinn was another one that like a couple people had right, but not many.

But there are like the legit X factor of Josh Rosen filling someone's quarterback need, and that's going to take one of these guys and drop them far down the board. There is the outside chance, because if you do look at the mocks, half of them seem to have the Raiders moving up for a quarterback too, and you'd have to move Derek Carr in theory or have that awkward situation play out. That would remove another quarterback opening. So it's all these unsolved situations. I'd rather just wake up on May 5th and be like it's all over.

Thank you. let's end the news with a couple of quarterback notes Sean Mannion did not stick around with the Rams after four years but he signs with the Vikings where he will back up Kirk Cousins the Vikings were looking for a backup because their former backup Trevor Simeon went to the Jets to backup Sam Darnold and finally Wes you said Johnny Manzo well that's incorrect because the former Browns quarterback

I feel like he's been on 40 teams since the Browns but the former Browns cornerback now goes by John Mansell. This one's for John. No, not that one. Different John. John Mansell.

He told Dan Patrick, that's what it is. And Wes, you had said that you saw that maybe it was a joke. I'm seeing in various media reports, including TMZ sports, that he seriously is dropping the NY from his name. He is now John Mansell

in an effort to grow up. And this is interesting. Mark, because whenever this happens, there's always a little bit of like, remember when Debbie Gibson said she was Deborah? No. Terrible idea, but yes.

I know you didn't know, Greg. No, terrible move. Age 32, you were born. You missed Debbie Gibson, Electric Youth. I remember that part. Big, big period in the 80s. She was like Taylor Swift before Taylor Swift. But she tried to go to Deborah and go to Broadway,

and everybody was like, no, come on. Well, you tried to turn Little Debbie, where you suggested that when she became an older rapstress, that she could change her named to what larger deborah i believe it was something like that bulbous debor there was also larry fishburn now that kind of work because he said i want to be more serious he was on peewey's playhouse as the cowboy and then he became he was on apoculars now yes and he was larry then and then he ended up i think getting an oscar nod for the tina turner movie don't quote me on that uh also back in

1991, Danny Hansis told my mom one day, mom, I'm going by Dan. Well, that's smart. I mean, it is kind of a big, it is a big, I think you have to have a level of gravitas almost to counteract if you're going by Johnny or Danny or a name like that as an adult. And if you're John, Johnny Mansell, you don't have that. What age did you switch? You know what I'm saying? It was 11. So you felt at age 11 you had acquired the adult-like skills to switch from Danny to Dan?

I mean, I'm not doubting that. No, when you think back to it, I was entering junior high, essentially, and I probably, Danny I associated with being, you know, little Danny, the boy. My parents and all my family still call me Danny this day. But I had to move on into a more mature place in my life. And it changed everything. I have the situation with. I'm not here if I'm Danny Hansis. I'll tell you that right now.

I'm flipping pancakes somewhere. I mean, you're giving yourself nicknames left and right, so it's still out there as an option at some point. You could call me, Danny. That'd be fine. That's what's happening in the news. Football fanatics, it's April, it's draft month. And that means we are just weeks away from a special event

that should make dyed in the world draft necks hot in the pants. That's right, your chance to schmooze with NFL Network draft guru Daniel Jeremiah on Wednesday, April 24th, in Nashville, Tennessee, the home of this year's 2019 NFL draft. Five winners will be selected to fly to Nashville and dine with Daniel Jeremiah on the Proud Mary Cruise Line along Nashville's gorgeous Cumberland River. Jump in one second before you go on.

I mean, you imagine he's so busy. He is now the number one guy on our depth chart. He's going to take out that time out of his schedule in Nashville for this event. Yes, because I, again, I talked to him this morning. He very much cares about the people. that he's plugged in with the fans. He knows the draft is a big, big thing. It's a six-hour meet and greet

that will include an elegant four-course dinner with a vegetarian option and an open bar including chilled bottles of California and champagne from Paul Misan. This is your opportunity to pick the brain of a master for a chance to win. Simply hit up Daniel Jeremiah on Twitter at Move the Sticks with your hottest draft takes

using the hashtag Dining with DJ. And one thing, I forget the copy. Like, we are part of a board that is in-house looking at the winners. We have only identified potentially one at this point because people have done a sucky, sucky job at this. These need to be beefy, 280 character, hot takes filled with facts.

You've got to impress DJ and us. And it can be one of those ones that's a thread where it goes 280 character tweet into part two, part three, part four. Stretch your wings, please. You know what it is? It's like, don't waste the man's time. He is at the top of the food chain when it comes to being a draft expert.

He doesn't want to dine with a bunch of gibronies, a bunch of pancake flippers. He doesn't want no dany's. He wants Dan's there. No curtain jerkers. He doesn't want jerkers? He wants top of the card. And I've had people, someone from Germany, said yes, but the NFL would never fly me from the NFL is a billion plus.

They are mega rich. They're got a ton of money. They'll fly you from anywhere to do this. So if you have the best tweets and you get picked, you're going. And please do a lot of it because the most recent hashtag Dining with DJ is just some guy who's recommending basic pieces of furniture that can improve your kitchen decor. That's what we're getting.

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I don't know. You're going to be like... When the, what is it, the Princess, Prince Harry and the TV star that got married? It was like, who's going to get the first photo of the baby? That's Mark when it comes to getting on the ground. Well, no, the one issue, though, with the four of us and anyone that has made the decision to follow all four of us on Instagram, good for you, notices that we got into a trap

where we all send out the same photo within like three seconds of each other. So the new move is to post it like two months later and be like, throwback to that time we were doing this. So you're getting out of the scoop game. I don't care about the scoop game. Scoop to who and why? What am I doing?

Who cares? So over it. All right, here we go. Let's get into it. Who should be nois about the draft? So let's throw out some prominent players in the National Football League and why they should be glued to their television sets

for what happens on Thursday, April 25th, round one. And even round two and three, you know, but let's get going here. Mark, throw a name out there. This team has been kind of whiplashed and taken down by fans for their lack of activity, the Cincinnati Bengals.

But I truly think that behind the scenes that Zach Taylor, has enough buy-in from ownership on down to explore other quarterbacks and to take a shot at one where the Bengals, draft-wise, have done very little of that in general. There's been very little threat to Andy Dalton.

And I do believe that, and this comes from a little whisper I heard from someone too behind the scenes, that this is the year that they are going to, they have the best pick they've had in a while. Number 11, you have a chance to get one of these four quarterbacks we just talked about, which one? Who knows? That's not my job. But they're going to

grab one, and I don't think that it means that Andy Dalton's going to be replaced come week one. That will take time. We'll see how that happens. That always is like, oh, they're very comfortable in having Andy Dalton teach this rookie that wrote, well, we'll see. Then by week four, when the whole ship is sinking, then you make the switch like everyone does. Andy Dalton can be moved or cut even for literally zero dead cap money and 16 plus million in savings. I don't think that's going to happen. It's a transition, but finally, and as they should, they're going to take a chance on a different quarterback, and that would mean in a Joe Flacco-like situation

that if he's worth anything, this would be the last year of the glowing red ginger man in as what West likes to call the city Natty Town. I do not call it Natty. Big Nats. How does Daniel Jeremiah feel about you giving away all the information? That did not come from Daniel Jeremiah. That, I can promise you. That would be too easy to connect those dots

because I mentioned him four times on the show. We did talk, not about this. I mean, who else would you've been talking to? We didn't see you talk to Bucky or Lance. Why would I give that information away right now? So much for that pep talk, I gave Andy Dalton. He didn't put much stock into it. Here's the thing, though.

Even if they did draft a quarterback, you're right. They would bench Andy Dalton the second that they're under 500, you know, after a quarter or more into the season. But there are examples of guys like Alex Smith and, you know, Drew B's back in the day where I think, Dalton is going to be given a shot over any of these guys. They're not necessarily viewed, especially where the Bengals are drafting as, you know, guys that have to be starting what right away.

And he'll get his shot to try to lead them to a winning record. And if you don't have it halfway through the season, you're probably done. In your pep talk, and you made a good point that in that 2011 draft, there was Blaine Gabbard and who's the Christian Ponder, Peter, Jake Locker, and Jake Locker and Andy Dalton. Colin Kaepernick, one pick ahead of... You also said Dalton's had an incredible career, which was too strong. But your point was well, well made that he has been fine as a quarterback. And I wonder if...

It's been better than I bet. I could go through him, but I bet he's done better than, you know, 80% of the second round pick. What are the, my take on this is with these, again, we're talking about the big four that are out there that everyone's talking about. What are the chances that one or any of those guys is better than Andy Dalton? would Cincinnati West be better off addressing other needs rather than to replace a perfectly average or above average quarterback? I do think they have other needs. And the first one precludes putting a rookie quarterback behind that offensive line.

Until they fix that offensive line, I don't want a rookie quarterback under sentence. Let's let me ask you one follow-up, though, because I feel like if you go get Zach Taylor, one of these so-called, like, young offensive minds, and unless Zach Taylor simply went in and is absolutely, you know, it feels the way Greg does about Andy Dalton, like I don't think you can tell a new coach that there's a mandate to tie you.

Does he have any power at all? I'm just saying, what's the structure in that building? Is this a new theory? Is this a new theory that because you have an offensive coach, you have to get a new quarterback that he wants? Like sometimes the GM and the owner are more powerful and say, hey, coach, deal with the quarterback on the roster.

That could certainly be the case, but I don't think it's new to think that coaches who view themselves as offensive gurus, whether they verbalize that or not, want to pick their own quarterbacks. Want their own guy in the next year. That happens over and over. I don't think it'd be a bad idea for the Bengals, even though I gave that pep doc to be thinking quarterback,

whether it's the first or the second round, to try it. They haven't tried anyone in a long time. I'm trying to picture Andy Dalton nervous. Oh, golly. Just put him in a playoff game. I mean, he doesn't strike me as nervous or overly confident. Right in the middle. Wes, throw another one out there.

Who's nervous? Who should be nooving? Well, as we know, the NFL stands for, not for long. So everyone should be nervous except Eli Manning, who is going to run out there until he literally calcifies into the statue they want to feature outside their stadium. But the second... It would save a lot of money.

The second person I thought of after Eli is Jimmy Graham. Because he had a terrible year last year for the Packers. He was awful. He didn't block. He didn't catch contested passes. Costs west a sandwich. Costs me a sandwich, which maybe that explains why I'm bitter about the way he played last year and there are two Iowa

tight ends in the first round who would look good in Green Bay I think Jimmy Graham he needs to be concerned about he needs to be novious does he I'm trying to remember what his contract situation was is he a guy he potentially could lose his job outright if you cut him after June 1st

it's 8 million dead 4 million in savings which is tenable if you're gonna if you want to just move on from they paid him though 5 million that he was someone where I don't think he would be too nervous because in his mind he probably is like I got one more big time year to get paid and he got it. They gave it to him on.

He should be nervous about his snaps. Right. He got it five days into the league year. I thought he might get cut to your point, Mark, and they could have gotten out of it. But they gave him $5 million guaranteed. So he's on that roster. I think Mercedes-Lewis would be quickly applying for jobs elsewhere.

Well, depends if they get a block. He's purely blocking at this point. I can't believe he's still in the league. Mercedes-Lose. All right. I'll throw it out there. All right. This is more, well, it concerns the man as well,

and I'm sure he wouldn't be thrilled about it. But when I talk about nerves, Rams fans maybe, would be more nervous about the draft. If I told you there's a chance, what if they, you know, go and find a Todd Gurley compliment higher than people expect? Because what do we know about the Todd Gurley knee situation? Just that it is not something that's potentially going to heal overnight,

that it's something that has to be, I believe the word was maintained going forward. I mean, there was a lot of talk at the combine from the leaders of the Rams that this is a situation that it's kind of a new reality around the Rams. And if I'm Todd Gurley, I'm wondering what happens here because they let C.J. Anderson walk. They re-sign Malcolm Brown, but to peanuts he makes relatively. So what is else? What's in their backfield? what if they have at the 31st overall pick? You know, what if they're attempted to grab someone to thunder and lightning

or just give Todd Gurley the rest? If they really, if Todd Gurley isn't actually a financial investment for them, it probably behooves them to have someone in there that he could split the workload with. There's one name I'll throw out there. I'm not a draft expert, but I've been reading up on some of Josh Jacobs of Alabama. is supposed to be the guy that goes in the first round, the running back that goes in the first round. A lot of mocks, in fact, all of our experts on NFL.com

all have them going, with the exception of one analyst, have them going to the Eagles at 25. That's kind of where he's going right now, mid to late first round. Would the Rams potentially go get Jacobs or someone else? They also have the 94th and the 99th pick in the third round. something to track as the Todd Gurley mystery goes on.

They'd be insane, and they'd get killed. You know, they just gave Todd Gurley that money. What's the money for? They just, in Malcolm Brown, he's only making $2 million. That's actually one of the highest paid backups in the league. I think they've got so many issues because they're a young team, but they haven't had many draft picks lately, like any high draft picks,

and they're missing a second rounder again this year. I'm not sure which trade that was part of. I'm sure any research could have picked that out. But, like, they've got one pick in the top of 90. It's like, why, it's like, well, I'm just saying why I've mentioned that because anyone listening can easily go. I can't end in the next five seconds. You say it's insane, but what if, what we're hearing is that Todd Gurley no longer is.

I think that's getting overblown. I think he's going to be. Who are you to say that? How do you know? I think it's going to be a big part of their, I think he's going to be a big part of their offense. And so worst case scenario, he's. He's like splitting, you know, he's 1A to Malcolm Brown's 1B, and that's why you paid Malcolm Brown.

What I would find absolutely delicious about it is this, that everything they've said over and over, contrary to, you know, flying to Switzerland or whatever he's, I don't know, these other things he's doing to get his knee looked at. Like, he's absolutely fine. Everything's absolutely fine. Like, we have no concerns. He's going to be the same player he ever was.

We're also going to have someone else take some of the workload up. But then if you drafted someone at 31, you can't roll into that press conference with all these benign statements. So I don't see it happening, but it would be... I just think they have other big question marks on defense. Maybe 31's high, all right, end of the first round. But if they use it on either of their three picks, they have a 94th and 99th, as I said, in the third round,

that's going to just build more drama around the situation about how much rest Gurley's going to need going forward. We'll see. I really like Malcolm Brown. I think they do, too. All right, you're up. You know, you said notable players when you're like prominent players that should be nervous. I don't know if mine's really that prominent.

Gina? But I don't care. It's a prominent position that I can't talk about. Damien Williams are the Kansas City Chiefs. Wait, what? He's all excited. He's all excited about finally being like the guy. He is the starting running back right now for the Kansas City Chiefs.

Carlos Hyde is probably the backup. And they've talked up Damien Williams is like, this guy is going to get a chance. he looked really exciting last year. But when I think of guys that should be nervous going into the draft, it's not so much superstars with guaranteed money. It's guys that have never really quite had an opportunity like Damien Williams and is thinking this is my chance. And the chiefs are in this weird spot with the Tyree Kill situation hanging over their heads.

You know, they adapted to life without Cream Hunt quite well. Their offensive lines a little bit in transition. I just think that they're going to need another running back, that they're not going to go into the season with Damien Williams. is their clear starter, even though I thought he looked great last year. And that's a guy where one year as the chief starter could, you know, change his life. I'd be worried if Damien Williams wasn't almost a perfect fit for the Andy Reid offense, that they came out.

The one thing about Brett Veach, I feel like he says what's on his mind. I don't think he's at the point where he's like spinning whispers left and right where he's able to fool everyone in the room. Like all last off season, he kept telling us, Patrick Mahomes, like, we're all in, we love me. He's the best player we've ever seen. and they just went on and on about Damien Williams, that they love his fit, and they love the way he played, and he costs next to nothing.

Like, he could have competition, but he's a good fit. If he wasn't, I'd be more concerned. I feel like he should be cautiously optimistic about where he is right now, right? With an eye on the draft, like, oh, wait, are they really going to let me give me the rock? My ball? All it would take is a third or a fourth round pick

that you actually hit on, and then that guy's you're starting. Like a Nick Chub. Week one, yep. All right, one. More time around the horn, Mark. Well, Dan, I don't mean to do this because this is your guy. Well, it was also like two other people's guys in this room at various times.

But three-time making the leap candidate Lamar Miller. Had him on my list. That's good. I mean, I know the Texans, oh, this is one where I feel like they protest too much, where they keep telling us that Lamar Miller is everything they could have asked for it. They're starting running back position. But you look at that whole running back room. There's injury questions around the rest of the crew.

And Miller to me, you could cut him, and it would call. you $1 million, not that they need to cut him, but it's just that he's not the future, and there's no reason not to grab another running back because they also ignored essentially outside of taking Matt Khalil and free agency their entire offensive line. So I don't know where you get that running back. I'm not saying it's a first round pick,

but that position needs to be addressed for a more balanced offense in Houston. I think Lamar Miller would be the odd man out at the hit on someone. Greg, you and I were standing next to each other when Pearl River Native and Texans general manager, Brian Gaines, spoke. And I remember it registering in my head that he was kind of going through the motions in terms of praising Lamar Miller. He called him a three-down back, and he said that he almost ran for 1,000 yards

as if running for 1,000 yards. It was almost. Big deal in 1985. And you just got the feeling between his underwhelming season outside that one Thursday night game And the Dante Freeman coming off the torn Achilles in the back field, there's going to be someone else in there. And the fact that they didn't use free agency, I'd be really surprised if they didn't use, let's see,

they pick 20 thirds. So they're right in the Josh Jacobs area, according to draft experts. And then they have two second round picks 54 and 55. I would think a running back ends up being picked there. And I can save $6 million by cutting them, and they could use the money. Couldn't we all?

Well, that kind of money, please. I wouldn't be here on Wednesday. You would quit if you were rich? No, I would not. I would actually think it would be much more easy to do any job that you enjoy if you suddenly just are wicked rich. You'd start giving more people a piece of your mind. That might be true.

A little guff, give people some guff. No one would have any rule over me on any level. Mark, what do you think about the idea of Aunt Becky doing time for the college admissions scam? Do you think she should go to jail? Do you think she should go to prison for this? Yes or no? Totally unrelated, but it involves money. No, because I think that what would happen is she put in one of those

those very rich people prisons where you're allowed to like mate with your partner and read like books right off the shelf and stuff. Yeah, it's like it's sort of like... Are you describing the rest of development? Like a country club. Yeah, it's like I think that anyone would want to be in that situation where you don't really have any responsibility other than to read all day long and eat meals. And then you're out.

Mark's new take. Yeah, prison, not so bad. I mean, that's a step up from hospital, say. I don't like what she did, but I, whatever. I mean, it just seems like a rich person type crime. Like something else should be done to her. All right. I was just curious of your thoughts.

Wes, you're up. It's hard to follow. I actually, I wanted to see if I could get a defensive player in here. Yeah, smart. A two-time pro bowler, dolphin safety, Rashad Jones. Coming off labrum surgery, struggles in coverage, do 13 million this year, and they reportedly want to move Minka Fitzpatrick to safety. If they draft another safety,

Rashad Jones might find himself without a job. I could see that. New coaching staff, short leash. Had quietly profusely sitting on his couch, April 25th. Quietly had a, you know, controversy. I don't even know if we ever mentioned on this show where, you know, he left the field last year. There was some, oh, yeah, you remember that.

You know, kind of a. Are we in the fish tank? I think we're back in the fish. Sank. Hop in. 80 degrees today. He pulled that he pulled himself for a game, kind of like a reverse when San Antonio Homes got kicked out of the huddle.

Wow. He counts $17.16 million against the cap this year. That is insane. Would that make him more confident or less confident? I think they can save a bunch of that. He doesn't going to get that money. If they cut him after June 1st or trade him after June 1st, I think they can save a ton of money.

I'd be nervous. I'm going to throw this name out there because I thought you were going to do it, Mark, and I don't know what Greg's last one is, and I think we should hit him. The Raiders, Derrick Carr. It just, as much as we're hearing all the positive things, if Dave Gettelman has taught me anything

in this lost off season for the Giants, it's just not to believe anybody when they say anything. And as much as John Gruden has said positive things about Carr, it comes down to this, boys. It's been a long time since this happened. I think the Jets had it back in 2000. One of my historians here can help me out. The researchers.

A little bit of research would help. But the four first round picks for the Raiders. And I'm thinking to myself, when a team has a bounty like that, one of those first round picks won't be a quarterback. Certainly could happen. I mean, they could go all different rounds. But I wonder if it's John Gruden's final domino in this massive rebuild.

I don't, and I'm not saying I think it should happen or I think it will happen, but I think if I'm Derek Carr, I'm very nervous for Draft Day because can I trust this guy? Do I know, you know, everyone's putting out the story that we get along well, but can I trust him when there are four first round picks on April 25th? Here's why I didn't put him at the top of my list was like Rashad Jones, number one, $100,000 they save if they cut them and they lose all the rest and dead money. And I looked at Derek Carr's.

They save $100,000 if they cut them and they are on the hook for $22.4 million. So you have to... But they could keep them this year. You could keep them this year and then you move... You could deal that down the road. Or you could try to move them, which we've discussed some scenarios that could

potentially a Gruden to Gruden type thing or whatever. But there's no buzz around that. But I agree with you that the visits we keep hearing about with Oakland over and over are quarterbacks. They are looking at quarterbacks. It's not one of these teams where we've got our guy and there's no curiosity. There is a clear

curiosity. And I thought it was interesting. He did a little social media testing of the waters there, you know, just sending the eyes emojis last week when they were hosting Kyler Murray. That's a guy that's nervous. And let me correct myself. They have three first round picks, but their fourth pick in the draft is

35 overall. So it's right out. It's It's right in the beginning of the second round. So this is a team with four quarterbacks that everyone says will go top 30, top 40, maybe top 20. There are four names out there, and there's Derrick Carr, and John Gruden, who has been on a quest for, you know, 14 months and counting or whatever, rebuilding this roster in his own image. Will he survive? You can also trade Derrick Carr in October when someone's knee gets, you know, absolutely removed from their body. Yes. always can do that once again mark rooting for injury no i'm not rooting for it i'm just saying

be smart with your trade options close it out greg i'm going to go with james connor i i think the the steelers really fell apart in part because they didn't have anyone behind james connor i also think james connor's a third round pick behind the best offensive line in the league and he's good uh but are they going to go into the year just with james connor and just hoping a that he can stay healthy, which, you know, he had a lot of workload last year, and so I'm not going to kill him for not making it through the season. But B, they don't have anyone behind him at all. And it, who knows, a second or third round pick in this draft, which it's not top heavy at running back, but fairly deep. I think they could bring in some competition for him.

You're thinking overall workload, though. It's not going to be replaced as the starter for... Good. I mean, he was a third round pick. I don't know. I mean, I don't look, I don't view, I think he's a great player, but I don't view him if they're not going to be replaced. They did draft someone as someone that would be unquestioned. Really? That surprises me. He was one of the most productive running backs in the league when he was healthy. He was really good, and it wouldn't be something

where you would think a guy would come in and be a week one starter, but are they going into the year with James Connor and Jalen Samuels? And to me, running back of any position, sometimes those second, third, fourth round picks. I mean, we've seen it over and over the last couple of years, or they come in and they're very productive like James Connor or like Cream Hunt right away. and then he's got some heat.

That's a great situation to be in, to be the running back on that team. Hell yeah. Great line, great quarterback, playmakers everywhere. Do it. All right. Good talk, guys. One last thing.

Yes. We've had several British listeners request that we talk about Christian Wade, rugby star, who just signed with the Buffalo Bills on their international player program. And what do we think he's going to be? We have no idea. I mean, I've never seen him play. rugby, much less play in the NFL.

I will say that of all the positions where talent matters more than skill, running back would be pretty close to the top that you could come in and do it. That said, until you see the guy play football, how would we know? I mean, I don't see him coming in and unseating Lashon McCoy. Got to learn from an all-time great. And Frank Gore, the right way to be a running back. I mean, we had Jared Hayne come in with the 49ers, and he was supposed to be one of the better rugby players.

I know I'm going to get all kinds of tweets, Union Rugby versus League Rugby and all these other different kinds of rugby's. He knows. Whatever. This guy was hyped so much and like barely made an impact. It's funny. You say you don't know, you know, what's going to happen with him. I do.

246 yards this year. But next year becomes a legit international star, a success story, 1,050 yards is the starter. I would bet against him making the final 53 man roster. Brian Gain would be thrilled about that. 1,00050 yards. Killer. All right, good rugby talk.

Good luck to that man. and we'll be back on Thursday. Our next time we're all together. Well, we're on NFL network every day now. They're using us right now. And I made the analogy before the show. It's like you go to summer camp and you're all of a sudden you're the pretty girl

and he wants to take you to the dance. And then you go back to school in September. And he's also back at school with everybody else and he's not paying attention anymore. We're getting a lot of tension. network right now. That's good. What happens when we go back to school? We're going to get that same attention. It's a fair point. I think the analogy is apt. I think we're going to get probably dumped. So you can check us out on up to the minute on NFL Network Monday through Friday.

And our next time together here in the studio is our Twitter show, which again, we haven't been great about promoting it, but also the shadow of league figures have been moving this thing all around the dial. But right now, we are on Wednesday morning, 1030, 8,000. A.m. Pacific, 1.30 p.m. Eastern. And I believe that's 6.30 in London, London time over in the U.K. I don't know. There's five hours ahead in New York. But there's a time that we didn't move with them on the daylight savings, I believe. Anyway, take out the Twitter show. And then our next podcast audio show will be Thursday. Connie Fox will be back with us. So check that out. All right. Let's get out here.

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