NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Will Your Team Surprise... or Flop?

Episode Date: June 9, 2017

A room filled with some heroes – Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Colleen Wolfe, & Dave Dameshek – discuss all the latest news from around the NFL including Julian Edelman's new deal with the Patriots, the Jets' plans to release or trade Eric Decker, and the Ravens parting ways with Dennis Pitta. The heroes also discuss which hyped up teams are most likely to stumble and which overlooked teams are most likely to surprise in 2017.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast will save your marriage. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined. My room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler, Dave Damasek. You guys are still doing this, huh? Colleen Wolf.

What's up, people? some heroes. I get it. It's not all heroes. It's not all heroes. Right. Not 100%. 50%, maybe 75. This will go very smoothly, I predict, today. We had our, to quote, a shechism, our steal a day. Yesterday, Wednesday, when we went to Chavez Ravine in the Dodger game,

we had a great time together. and figured this might be a good spot. Wes is not available today. Greg's still on vacation or maybe murdered by Miko Grimes at this point. Just to get the group and continue those good time vibes that we had. How about that? Let's do it. Yeah, it was a wonderful time.

I hate to start out with a correction, but I know the locals get miffed when people mispronounce. Chavez Ravine. I always say Chavez. I thought they had more of a ring, but Chavez Ravine. But either way, a glorious time. And that's right. When you're sitting under the Southern California sun, in the middle of the week at high noon, drinking a beer, you're officially cheating life.

It was wonderful. There was a little cheating as well, I thought, in terms of the fan experience. The old Zusser got cheated. Oh, God. Seriously, you were fine with it. You did not even put up a fight. In all my years, I have never left a sporting event early until I got ganged up on four on one yesterday. Everyone looking at bail.

A 2-1 game in the ninth inning, the Dodgers leading, and the Nationals put their first guy on base, like a line drive single down the first base line, tying on on base, nobody out, and what are we doing? We're walking to the parking lot to, quote, beat the traffic. Well, hold on. And get a beer. Right, one word, beer, because the game was so swift

and how quickly it moved that they shut down as they do in the seventh inning. beer sales and it was only about 2.15 and at least three people of that group, I'm not going to say who, but at least three people only went to that event for beer. So that you did get, you did get outruled. You're correct. I feel bad for you. It is one of those things that when some people like to go to the ball game and it's all about, you know, a big Yenta fest and everybody's gabbing and drinking their beer and eating the garlic game. That's what you do. Strike three, you're out. But I am watching the game. In fact, I stole.

a moment, Dave, at one point, some high profile at bats in the game, Bryce Harper against Clayton Kershaw. I said, I'm going to get by myself here and enjoy this because I was there for the game as well. I respect that in broad strokes, Hans-Zus. I too, no matter how festive everyone else wants it to be. Often if one of my teams is playing in a big, big game, people say, hey, do you want to come over? I'm having like 10, 15 people by like, no, I don't want to do that. The least I can do So if Coach Tomlin and company or the Pittsburgh Penguins are chasing another cup or whatever, the issue, I mean, the least I can do is give them my undivided attention. They've worked so hard these past months. Now, that brings me to this point, Hans-Zus.

Which of those two teams were you rooting for? What do you care if the Dodgers are the nationals win? That's why you can leave. Did you have a vested interest in either team? No. I mean, I guess the Dodgers would be, I don't even want to say my second favorite team because it is, I am just a Yankee fan. But, yeah, I just wanted to see the conclusion of the game. I find entertainment value in that situation, ninth inning, one-run game, man on base.

But I didn't lose sleep over it. I really didn't. I just had never done it before. It felt a little dirty. Did it feel dirty when we got in the car and just drove right out of there? I felt cleaner at that point. Well, it worked out because as we were about to, none of us knew where our car was to start. But as soon as we found the car, you heard the game end.

So had something, you know, pivotal happened, I think we would never be hearing the end of it. but it did work out by circumstance at least. I'll tell you this. You know, I am really uncinical about that every time I hear I love L.A. And you hear it at the end of every sporting event here in L.A. And beyond, I just, all these years in the living in Southern California to continue the point, I still feel like on some level I'm cheating life. I can't believe that we're like, I love L.A.

Yeah, we did it. You know, and I know the song is supposed to be satirical. And yet I don't care. I just, I embrace it fully and without any irony. The thing I do resent, though, Hans-Zus, is the way, is your tone of voice that you took when you were explaining our side of things, the quote-unquote, beat the traffic

as though you're some sort of Republican congressman doubting the veracity of whether or not we would have been in much worse traffic had we sat there for an extra 10 minutes. We would have been there for 45 extra minutes. Maybe. Instead, we went to your beloved nostalgic bar in Hollywood Bird. It was great.

That was a wonderful time. Again, beer. And if you're younger or you're not familiar with the song, I Love L.A., we would play it for you right now, but the really strict rights issues in this building, the esoteric viewpoint. But this is kind of what that song sounds like. So that's not quite I Love L.A., but kind of like it. I don't want to co-opped this your baby here.

Han Zeus, named the ATN podcast, which, like I say, again, good for you that you guys have stuck with it. Not only that, you've gone one step beyond. Dan Hansus has issued this very day the virgin run of a brand new podcast promoted here. Are you not going to do that? Are you philosophically against that because you don't want to be charged with hypocrisy by Greg Rosenpahl who a year or two ago did have the temerity on this show to promote his Anthony Jezzelnick and Greg Rosenthal Vanity Project?

Yes, there is the throwback podcast, the new podcast with my buddy, Bob Castro, where we revisit albums from our formative years. You can get it now on iTunes and a throwback pod on Twitter. Very excited to start that. And Greg and I will probably have to have a talk about that, but I will say there is a difference. He was coming into this studio to record a football podcast, a competing podcast in my mind. This is a little different. This is a music podcast. Totally different world, not on work hours.

Record it in your garage and about a completely different subject matter. Wow, in your garage? And Mark Sessler, who, by the way, not for nothing. We've got to get the show going. This is a very damage-checky and start to the show. Another dig. I don't get the pass of aggressive dig. I am not the only one with a new podcast, a new side project.

Mark Sessler and Connor O'er, the Heat and Light podcast. Is that correct? It is. We have no idea what it's about, but it's essentially not about football. And so, again, it's not competing for any shared, real estate. Although I do typically I will on my work time because I will use work time for this.

I'll see what sort of high-ranking executive is not in the building. I'll go record it in their office. Oh, stick it. Yours is about music, though, Hans-Zo. It is. It's about yeah, Bob and I grew up together in the albums that we listen to. Not always albums that have held up and

the test of time. The gin blossoms are the greatest. Oh, you don't get that. You get two in the back of the head. That's episode three. Yes. Anyway, so check that out. Thank you, Dave. Let's do some news, and to do that, we've got to throw up behind the glass. This is really, what an interesting show this is,

because behind the glass filling in for Sully, who was filling in for Lassid, it is the great Emma VP making her around the NFL podcast debut. What's going on, guys? I'm glad to be the third-string ATN producer. Anything I can do. I mean, technically perhaps that's true, but at the same time, I don't think anybody thinks that Emma There's a third stringer.

A lot of people believe she is a star in this building. Let's do some news. The New York J-E-T-E-J-S. It's so good. Let's start. Well, we're going to get to the Jets, but why don't we start on the throne of ease, actually? A good place to start because Julian Edelman,

a wise man, Julian Edelman is because he is not going anywhere. He signs a two-year extension with the New England Patriots, takes him through 2019. He had been due $3 million in the final year of his contract, highly team-friendly considering his production. But he's 31 years old. Don't know the terms yet, Mark, unless you saw them somewhere. But Edelman sticking around the pats at least another couple of years.

Everybody wins. Not sure of the terms yet, but absolutely a deserving player. Let me give you three names. Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, O'Dell Beckham. the only three players in the entire league that have averaged more receptions per game since 2013 than Edelman. I realize that Gronk is seen as the cornerstone of that offense, but considering how much of a wild card he is health-wise year after year, I feel like Edelman is the most important player to Tom Brady on that roster year after year.

It's Tom Brady's favorite target. I mean, his Super Bowl catch alone deserves an extension. That catch was amazing, an amazing stroke of luck, if anything else. but the way he plays in the postseason for them, he always comes up strong. I feel like he's always there for third down. He's always making that catch. People who want to be snarky and are doing it vapidly

when they try to denounce the way the Patriots approach these things, namely those third contracts. The teams that are successful clearly understand when to cut bait with a player. So I was a little surprised based on the firepower that the Patriots are going to have with or without Edelman. And what's curious is to try and speculate is, let's say Gronk is all the way ready to go. And they have Dwayne Allen now. And they now have Brandon Cooks.

And here comes Malcolm Mitchell. I wonder how many touches Edelman's going to get. He still is the go-to, like you say. He gets like 10 targets a game, it seems. So it'll be fascinating to see if this level of production continues in the 2017. Maybe his targets will take a hit. But he has that mind meld with Tom Brady. And whenever a big moment is going on, and let's face it, Gronk is not always on the field.

and if Grock's not available or Gronk is getting double covered, it's always Edelman who makes the big play as we've seen time and time again. This is a great move. And I've said it on this podcast a hundred times, especially with wide receivers, the guys that hold out and they want the huge contracts or they sign with some team that doesn't have a set quarterback

or a team that has a nice setup. And all of a sudden, yeah, you've got more money early on, but then you get cut halfway into that deal and then the deal you have to sign afterward, you end up losing money to go to a worse situation to mess up your career, Just stay where you are. You're in the total abyss come January

because you're stuck with more money on some team that's 4 and 12. Let's move on, yes. The Patriots are the best team in the league by New York Jets. That's a good chance they're going to be the worst team in the league. I'm coming hard on that quarter.

They can claim that. We did this on purpose. Well, Dan, exactly. The way that they're operating and it almost is the kind of thing that you think, does the NFL at some point say to the Jets organization, excuse me? They're pulling a sixers right now.

It really is. It really is. It really is. I'm going to let you. come sit over on this corner very soon. You're starting to win me over. I mean, we'll see how Cleveland's rebuild truly is going once games are played. But the Jets, this kind of bad timing for us.

On Tuesday, David Harris got cut loose and what could have been handled much better by the Jets. A couple hours after that, Mike McCagin, the general manager, told reporters that Jets will either release or trade Eric Decker. So now, now we're in deep. trouble. I mean, now we're, well, we already were in deep trouble, but now it's gotten to the point where I said on Tuesday show that they considerably had cut ties with the five most important players in the team last year, this time. Decker would be number six. Maybe Nick Folk would be seven. All these guys are gone. They didn't make any big additions. And there was a tweet that moved the sticks. Daniel Jeremiah sent out yesterday that he talked to a, I'm not going to be ignored

a AFC scout or a talent evaluator sometimes who believes that the Jets might have the most talent poor roster in the last decade. So these are dark times and you start to think that my fear that the Jets will somehow stumble into five or six wins, I don't see them sniffing anything like that, number one. And number two, I have a little bit of a 0-16 fear at this point.

At this point in time, I don't want that, but I do want the number one pick. So be careful what you wish for, I guess, is the lesson. Well, and by the way, let history let's today make sure we acknowledge that this trend did not start with the 2017 Jets. It started with the 2016

Cleveland Browns. Hugh Jackson wore it. This is what we're going to do. We're going down. Better days lay ahead, all that kind of stuff. So it is now a pattern Sessler, to your point, or like the Sixers started and many NBA teams have done over the decades to do this. Is this the start of an ugly trend?

One, and two, is it inadvisable, ultimately? Not really. I mean, aren't you willing to trade after years in the Muck and Meyer at the bottom of the AFC East Tanzus? Aren't you willing to trade a year? I don't know philosophically. Because I think it's more than a year.

Even if you do get that quarterback of the next draft, this is a tear down. And now you're essentially an expansion team. And when you've been around 60 years as a franchise, you're not supposed to ever get to this point where things are this dire. And it's just the way it is. It's very sad. Go ahead. Well, no, the one distinction.

I see. And believe me, I think, Dan, if you go through a bad year and you come out of it with the quarterback that someone will say some of these quarterbacks in the next draft come around once every 10 years, 15 years, that will be worth it for Jets fans long term if it pays out. You can't, I think Cleveland's in New York. In Cleveland, it's to some degree lucked into this, but it was also a focus that there was adding multiple draft picks over the next two, three years. And the Jets have not, that's the part that they don't have. So they have to, they literally have to tank to get this quarterback. It is amazing that it's June and you have these two wide receivers now on the now just free agents basically. You have Jeremy Macklin and Eric Decker and you're

looking at teams that well who could really use some wide receivers and the Jets have Quincy Anunwa now and Robbie Anderson like they're one of the teams that are most wide receiver poor and reached out to Steve Smith. If you're due yeah that's all that's the one weird thing and and not as splashy a name or success or anything else but Han Zeus. Now, as the Jets representative here, what would you like to see them do at QB? Do you go McCown? Do you go with the steady vet? That's a weird move if you're trying to tank.

You don't get rid of David Harris and you don't get rid of Eric Decker who are respected veterans and then start a respected veteran quarterback. You've got to go all in, I feel like. And the idea of selling the fan base on Josh McCown after you made these two moves is even harder to do. Exactly, right. So, and, you know, I had to. It was very important after this latest stuff game. came down. I had to check in with my dad, Keith Hansis, to see where he's at again. My dad likes to have fun on Sundays watching the Jets. The idea of a total tear down, he's a savvy

fan. He knows it's good to have better days ahead, but nobody wants to sit through 2 and 14, and that's what we're staring at. Let's see what Keith has to say. His name is Keith. He's dad's dad. No doubt about it. He's a big Jets fan. What is he going to say? about the game today What is he going to say About the game today Yeah, this is Keith there The release of David Harris

And the The upcoming release Of Decker It's just very disappointing to me As a jet fan Obviously Cole, Bowles has no He's not buying into this

I think they're hanging him out to dry Unfortunately reach and their trends of just cutting veterans just for the hell of it it just to me it's the biggest thing that I see at is this is it's testing a fan base to the point of you know what are we doing here we're trying to be the worst team in the league I don't see anything positive on cutting some of these guys right now but anyway very disappointing I'm not happy with the GM McAgnon has not shown me anything and this could be the end of him.

All right. Take care. Bye. All right. I feel like I know what it's like to be in trouble by Keith Hanses. Like, it would just be lectured by him. This is like the same sort of phone call he'd have with your mom like, oh, you know, in 1992 about like a math test you had. Totally, totally possible.

Let's move on. Jeremy Macklin has left the Ravens without a deal following a surprise release by the Chiefs on Friday. A lot of people connected the dots there because of Marty Moranwig. and their shared DNA and shared history. But that didn't happen. I wonder, by the way, if Eric Decker, his sudden arrival on the market or soon arrival on the market is why the Ravens are pausing here because he might even be a better fit there.

Decker can help a team, by the way. He didn't really get into that. But Decker, if he's healthy, the hip and the shoulder, he was an absolute stud in 2015, and he's only 30 years old. Same with Macklin, though, too. Wasn't that his big year, 2015? Yeah, I mean, they're both solid options that pop up on the market at this time, that's for sure. And in other Ravens, new, we're in the Ravens Nest, by the way, yes.

Every time I hear a crow, I think of that now. Endlessly in this nest. They've been in the Ravens Nest a lot lately. And you cannot complain. We've got a lot of complaints from Ravens check that we don't go talk Ravens enough. And it's like in every show thing now. My listeners go one step further. I hate every team, including.

And in other Ravens, who's Dennis Pitta was released by the team. So if you had any hope that maybe that was not such a serious injury, it's just as bad as the team had feared. He has been released by the team. So they needed a roster spot, and now he gets to the side on his future. Isn't it crazy, though, that you think about, you know, it's very easy in June to look at a roster by itself in a vacuum, Very few teams, the Jets, notwithstanding.

Most teams you would say, well, this is that team's year. When you look at the roster and the additions, you feel like, oh, this team's well positioned. But really, there are, we talk about the Patriots, the Steelers, the Bengals, the Raiders, have this overwhelming firepower on offense. And then you look at these other teams that just can never seem to land a wide receiver. I'm looking at the Rams as a, for instance, off the top of my head. Why are they not falling all over themselves to get, if you're the Rams right? Why would you not be chasing Decker and Mackley?

Well, there is, like, Mike Garifolo reported, when it comes to Macklin, around maybe even five teams would be chasing McClain. And we know of a couple of them because they've already had meetings. But we don't know who the others are. You'd like to think it would be the Rams, because what are you telling your fans? Here's the difference, though. That's the exact opposite of the jet situation. Here's the one thing, though, is that you look back at that coaching staff.

They could not develop all those draft picks they had at wide receiver. Any of them from Tavon Austin down, maybe there's some hope with the new coaching staff that the offense, Sean McVeigh, the receivers will be a little bit better. One quick thing on Baltimore, if they somehow don't land Decker or Macklin, that is an off-season disaster scenario because they have nothing at this position. That's why we've been in the Ravens Nest half the time. You talk about that. This has fallen into your lap.

You have to make it happen. Yeah, you have Mike Wallace and Breshaad Perryman. You're hoping Perryman. In a division, I always like the philosophy of Ziggin when the rest of the division is zagging, but like I say, Cincy and Pittsburgh are now officially. loaded offensively. How are they, as much as they've improved their defense in Baltimore, how are they really going to ultimately keep up

and score enough points against those division football? I'll tell you, I'll tell you how. His name is Justin Tucker. Everybody that's sleeping on Tucker, you get, I'm telling you, you get on the other side of the field between the 40, not going to put it, get to midfield, get right at midfield, even to get to your own 40, he'll put it through the uprights. Your love affair with kickers is out of control.

Last show, he needed nine field goals a game. Now it's 10. It keeps getting more bleak for Baltimore. That's unichy. Answer this. And I'm, you know, answer this. Has any team actually featured their field goal kicker before as the focal point of their offense? No.

No. If the Ravens do it and he kicks 10 a game, that's 30 maybe. A couple years ago, Cleveland signed Andy Lee as the center pita's piece of their offensive punter who was traded. I'll do you one further their hands. I think that Justin Tucker is contributing to a real problem and on going one in pro football, football in general. The framers of the sport never intended to have guys run out of the field and make 50-plus yards with any regularity.

I mean, you know, in 1960, Paul Horning was the kicker for the Packers and made about one-third of his field goal attempts. Pat Summerall forced overtime in the 58 championship. Pat Summerall did that. You know, you ran out one of your position players to do the head-on kicking and maybe they could make a 35-yard or about half the time. The game is warped as a result of these guys who don't do anything for 58.5 minutes of the game. They trot out and they're the ones deciding the game.

But Brian Baldinger, not hyperbolicly, says Justin Tucker is the greatest kicker of all time. I'm inclined to agree. By the way, real quick. On Jeremy Macklin, I would not be surprised if he does end up in Buffalo. Just with the Sean McDermott and Andy Reid connection, I know that those two had talked and that was Sean McDermott's coaching mentor back when he was in Philadelphia, and you have LaShawn McCoy on the team. McCoy and McLean were boys in Philly,

and I know that he's been actively recruiting him as well. So that would not surprise me. Well, he's just been married. You have to try to explain to your wife. We're moving to Baltimore, or to Buffalo, where it's about four degrees for five months out of the year. Colleen, good point. But I saw you trying to move things away from it.

I was like, I'm not going back into the kicker discussion. Don't love it. Don't love that decision. Oh, God. Folk. Two men enter. One man lives. Very exciting.

It's like the ad campaign for a horrible blockbuster movie. Moving on, the Titans have some issues. Some minor issues. Injuries, though. Running back to Marco Murray and second-year-wide receiver, Taj Sharp, Murray recently underwent a hand procedure on a minor nagging injury, according to the Titans. and he's in a cast.

He'll be fine for training camper being told. And Tajay Sharp, what's going on with Tadja Shout, Mark? You wrote this banger. He's got something going on with his foot, right? Yeah, he had a minor surgery, one of a minor. It would be a surgery. And two words, who cares? They're both going to be fine by training camp, according to the coach.

The desk asked me to write this night, and I didn't want to put up a fight because I had been throwing up your veto on this. Well, I've been very unproductive today at work in general. So I said, I will do this. It is news on some level, but, I mean, they're going to be fine by late July. Yeah, the DeMarco Murray injury, it was his ring finger. It happened week two of last season, and he's just now opting to have surgery, I guess, because he thought it was going to heal, and it just didn't the way that he wanted it to.

So now we've got it done. Let's keep moving. Troppellate. Troppellat. Emma, get a run back there today. She's doing a nice job. Emma, have ever thought about your long-term plans in this company? Yeah, she has.

I know she has. What are they, Dave? She wants to make, like, O'Dell Beckham and the Giants are currently talking about. She wants to, you know, she wants to wear one uniform for her entire career. Wearing that DDFP across the check. I asked Emma, like you mentioned, she listens to every show of ours. Every single show. I asked her before the show who her favorite member of the show was,

and she provided the correct answer. She did. I said it was Mark, yeah. So, you know, points being scored all over the place. You know, before she left, I asked Sidney, who. her favorite ATN or was, too. And what did she say? I don't want to tell.

But I did ask her and she did, in fact, answer. Did she really? She really did. You have to. Wow. Save it for the Sydney Reveal podcast. That was smart. And I know why Emma did it because she is cunning.

And she believes it. Mark does occasionally bump heads with all of our producers. And as a, and every show listener, Emma knows how to play the game. I like how Hans is diffuses the compliment. quickly. Undermines. The reason she did is she had to say that. He's like,

Cecil's going to cry otherwise. Emma, Emma is an honest person that I can tell right up the bat. She gave an honest answer. So that's where the subject ends. It ends right there. Let's bring back the trope alert. Let's get back on track here.

Tropp alert. Carson Tomer. His arm looks, quote, stronger than ever. Of course. According to Bruce Arias. This is the other story I wrote today. Some bangers today. 37 years old, probably not true.

I'm just going to say that 37, his arm is probably stronger at 27. Well, here was their explanation that starting last year, remember, he played very well down the stretch. They started giving him that veteran quarterback Wednesday off and that it aided his arm. And then they basically did not have him throw in all of March and April or in the early OTAs. And they're saying that now he said something, he's dropping 55-yard dimes in a bucket downfield. So it's stronger now. Whatever.

More trope alerts. Saints running back. Adrian Peterson wants to play until he's 37, comma, 38. Colleen, that's nice, but we'll the NFL have him. It took him a long time to get a job at age 32. Yeah, I don't know, like, what exactly he's going to be able to do this year in New Orleans, but I feel like this may be his last year. I don't know about that, but.

Whoa. Yeah, I'm just going to have a good thing Wes isn't here. I have a prediction. Wes would literally bite your head off. Yeah, I know. The willingness to promote and embrace Adrian Peterson and the abject rejection of other guys in the league for their off-the-field behavior confuses me at best,

and I'll leave it at that. 38, this is one of the great heroes in pro football. I disagree. Why also are there three veterans? A little bit on Mount Pius, just a little bit? That's pious to not, I mean, if nothing else, it's inconsistent, right? Okay.

Adrian Peterson is the face of all that's good. Other guys aren't in the league. Many would agree. Yeah. Why are the three or four or five, six stories like this every single off season about player X wants to play till age late 30 something? Enough.

Well, it's also like really tough for a running back to sustain that long at a high level like 37, 38 years old. I mean, you're taking a beating when you're out there. And finally, in the news, a weird, trend in the NFL this week. It started with Devon House, the defensive back for the Packers, who missed his connecting flight in Minnesota.

So he sent out a tweet asking if there were any Packer fans making the ride from Minnesota down to Green Bay. And sure enough, two brothers picked him up and drove him to Title Town. That was an interesting story. But poor Mr. House, he only got two days wearing the crown as the player with the best road trip story this offseason because he'll be a little. Here comes, Mark. Cherise Wright, the Bill's cornerback, who missed a connecting flight this time in Chicago.

These connecting flights. Oh, Harris, the worst. So what does he do? He calls an Uber. The Uber driver comes to pick him up. He thought he was asking for a ride to Buffalo Wild Wings. But then he kept his word. He said, I came to pick you up.

I will take you there. And he drove the man from Chicago to Buffalo, five-hour trip. It cost over $600, and then Wright fairly, pumped him up with a $300 tip for all his effort. And he made it to Bill's practice two minutes before it started. Oh, my. $6.58. What was the fair, though? We know the tip amount, but what would be the fare from?

I believe it's about 600. About 600? It was, I believe, 632, something in that range. I think you could have tipped them more, actually, right? Well, a lot of times, yes, because a lot of times, you've got to drive back. That's what I was going to ask. If you're an Uber driver, two little issues with this story. It's a very nice story.

Yes. When you take an Uber, you have to very clearly provide the address where you're going so that the drivers can lobby amongst each other to say who's going to take you. So unless there was an incredible spelling mistake or something, Buffalo Wild Wings would not seem to be. No, they don't know where you're going until you get in the car and they start the trip. No, you can't. Uber drivers can't. Uh-uh.

I mean, I always say, here's where I'm going, and then they, so they get in and he's going to see when he gets in the car, though, if he's Buffalo Wild Wings, when he looks it up, he's going to see a blue line that goes to upstairs, you know, Western New York that's going to throw you off. He might have just seen, because it was such a strange request that he might have just seen Buffalo, and he's probably made that drive a dozen times and just wasn't looking close. Well, just fair enough, but then the life of an Uber driver is, you ask him how far I go up to West Hollywood or I'll maybe go out to Pasadena and back, but like, how are you winding your way? back from Buffalo to Chicago, you don't have any guarantee to picking people up and taking them 200 more miles that happens once in your career. Sessler, you get to choose one NFL player to drive. You're the Uber driver across the country. Who would you most want it to be?

Well, I'm telling you, there's an NFL or who do you hope opens that back door and jumps in. It has to be a player. Could it be a coach? Yeah, let's say it's a coach if you want. Who's a fun answer? I think Wade Phillips would be a fun guy. He would be, yeah.

Oh, Bruce Ariens all day. Ooh, that's a smart. That's a good one, too. I like that very much. I don't really, I can't think of too many players that I want. Maybe Tom Brady. I know Dan will like that, but. That would be terrible.

I think he'd shut you down. Yeah, he would ask for privacy after you ask him two questions, then you'd have to ride in silence for the remaining. That's a great answer by Colleen Joe Thomas. Yeah. Joe Thomas has emerged into quite a fun-seeming guy. I think that's a great answer. He's a lot of fun.

He'll let you know, too. He's a fun guy. Great answer. Oh, God. But you get to go with him because you came up with it. I'm with hands use. I'm not saying that about Joe Thomas, but there's some people out there in the league

that like to let you know how funny they are. That's usually a red flag for how funny they actually are when they want to let you know how funny. I don't think he's propping himself up as some sort of standout. Another perfect example. Not him. He's not in the league anymore, but Pat McAfee. Yeah.

I'm sure a popular answer. Oh, Pat McAfee, number one. I'll take a pass. I'll take Malcolm Jenkins, by the way, right now. Is that the best answer, MOVVP? Yeah, he was really funny. I like Cliff Averill, though. Cliff Averill.

Oh, you can all listen. If you dig up an old podcast called Dave Damashik football program, you can find. Oh, by the way, can I promote that hands? Do it. In the most recent episode of DDFP, Ladies' Night, K. Adams, Cynthia Freeland, and one Colleen Wolf. Yep. Surrounding Damashire.

I've never been so nervous in all my life. We took a lovely picture together that's been tweeted out all over. Very awkward shot. Like the most awkward. It's ever happened. That's what's happening in the news. Yes, make sure you check out DDFP. But you might be new to the show, this show, and you don't know.

That's where Zusser and Sizzler got our start. That's right. The back end of the DDFP. A little eight minute, I think most it's stretched to about 13 minutes, probably to the annoyance of many listeners. Can you run those back again? Maybe if I can bury that, yeah, if I bury them way back there and then they'll never get hungry for their own show. That was my strategy. And boy, did it backfire.

Greg famously asked, told Dan and I over the phone one time after listening to one of our little debate club segments, asked us to think about being professional before we went down the road of doing a podcast. That's amazing. Really? Think about that. I want everybody to just think about that for a second. You guys just need the work on it a little.

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in it, unfortunately. But the inflow all day long of people saying, listen, I just went and purchased underpants. I mean, it's probably, I don't know how many people was, but I've never encountered, I've never had anyone ever tell me that they've just bought underpants. So it was quite a unique day. They're very soft. It's not just for dudes, though, right?

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They held me just right in all the places I needed it. Oh. So this stem from a conversation. That, by the way, is Damasek's impression of Dan that he'll do throughout the office. Spot on. It is. I mean, I always enjoy it. It is starting to edge heavily into Andrew Dice Clay territory now, or there's almost no difference.

I think it's more offensive. Jack and Joe, go up to who? The extra layer of insult with my impressions is, or people seem to take. I'm a terrible impressionist, you see. I tormented our pal handsome Hank at the baseball game. This took on an edge at some point. By talking like him for the vast majority. Well, he would say it was not like him.

You would say it was like him. Don't play at war, boy. There was, I don't know, and if you are a listener to both our show and the Dave Damashik football program, maybe this is something that pops up, but it was behind the scenes. Actually, I have an exclusive here.

This is an ATN Media Insider exclusive, which I... AT&TN Media Inside Inside, Inside, Dance, for the truth, go to the suits. Got to have a dolphin in there. This much-hyped show that Dave did with three women of the NFL media landscape came at the expense of one Henry Hodgson who came to the studio believing he was. on the show only only to be sent away are you serious the disrespect of a a principal cast member how do you answer to that again triple sourced always triple sourced how do you answer to that dave damashe well you know i uh it came together on monday that uh that kay adams i didn't know

she was in town of course one of our favorites we had a magical podcast with her and kyle brant in philadelphia around the draft and when i saw the she was around. I immediately said, well, we must have you back on the show, ASA and P. She agreed. And then towards the end of the night, Kay said, are you going to be in there, too, Colleen? And she said, oh, I'd love that. And then it was Colleen. Is that how Colleen said that? Are you saying that I just like jumped in on this party? You invited me. Right. I said, oh, that'd be awesome. And then Cynthia Freeland heard that and said, wait, you're having Colleen and Kay in? What about me? And I said, well that's fair let's do that and then of course there are only four seats so what else we're

going to do wait a second wait a second many times and coline you could vouch for this we have had five seats in here that's too many we sometimes will put somebody behind the glass that's the handsome's better than that though he deserves better than i think he's a fifth wheel he would no one he deserves better than that but you just set him away i i actually didn't i had no idea of any of this until the show had come and gone and then i ran into handsome and he said oh well a little David. Sonny's Margaret Thatcher. Did you have a good time with the ladies?

You know, I was bumped. I was bumped. That was the most. You lassoothed three ladies and kick me to the cab. Lasude. That was the most odious aspect of it, though, that you never even showed him the respect to tell him that he wasn't going to be on the show at all. I didn't even know that he was booked or not booked. I had to do that for him, Dan.

I felt really bad. He knows. Not for nothing, but, you know, people disappear from Sheck's show, you know, after a while sometimes. Is Henry the next guy to go? You got to wonder. How is? That's the spinning forward. That's a spinning forward to story.

That's true. And where does it end with the non-invites? How does Judy Batista? How does Amber Theo Herrera? I mean, go on and on with people that were not part of this episode. Incredible female journalists. We had four chairs. That was how many were filled.

Let's move on. You both a can of worms. Very interesting. Put it that way. Put it that way. I think we've had Amber The other. O'Harris on before. We've had Lindsay Rhodes, you know? We're doing our right. Well, we're doing all right with our gang. Let's talk about, by the way, there is a report out

there. I should also add, since we just talked about it, Bert Breer, who used to work with us. Now we works over with Peter King, cites a source that the Jets have had trade talks with the Ravens and others on Eric Decker. Decker remains on the roster. Oh, that's right. They haven't even officially dumped them. Yes, tracking that situation. All right. Now, let's talk about this. We are in the, you know, we're about to go into the true dark period of the NFL offseason after mini camps wrap up. But through this point, there are now teams that are, have established themselves as the, quote, unquote, buzzy teams, you know, a little buzz around them heading into 2017, the teams that

a lot of the pundits seem to be on the same page are on the rise. Conversely, there are the teams that are either getting no buzz at all. or are being spoken of in a really disparaging way as a team teams that should be completely overlooked this season. Now, the one thing we know we learn from following this game is that the pundits are usually wrong on multiple things this time of year, us included. And there's always the teams that everybody thinks are going to be good.

There's always going to be some that fall and they falter. And the teams that are going to be bad turn out. There's a couple teams that are either competitive or outright good. It happens every year. So let's talk about teams that we think, Mark, and we'll start with you one way or the other, a team that's going to surprise the football cognizanti. Well, this team was last year's offseason darling, and it's to some degree a little less so this time around because people, I think, feel burned.

But if you do go read about defenses, offenses, ready to jump up and jump out, the Jaguars still get mentioned. And you look at their defensive roster, and maybe there is a reason for the defense. that. You've got Dante Fowler. You've got Malik Jackson, Telvin Smith. You added A.J. Buea. You got Jalen Ramsey, who I think is a future all pro, Callias Campbell. So the pieces are there. But, A, you also have the Blake Bordle situation. And until we have any evidence that he's improved on any level from last year, don't try to convince me that a quarterback less team is going to make some giant leap. And secondly, when we saw what the Falcons did two seasons ago, where they got out of the gate real hot and then it fell apart, the DNA was there.

for a team that showed it could put together long win streaks. For me with the Jaguars, I get the Tom Kaufflin's there. They're going to be tough. They're going to be on time. That's all very nice. But you have to show something, I think, in the previous season. All lot of these players were on Jacksonville's roster last year.

Nothing came together at all. I don't really believe that a team like Jacksonville is going to suddenly go from three wins to 10, 11, or 12, and become this playoff heavy. I don't even see them above the Titans on any level. The Titans are a much more appealing team to me. So Jacksonville to me still, if there's buzz around them and there is, I don't

buy it. Not yet. Good rule of thumb, as you point out, when all the football universe is jumping on a bandwagon of a team that's never done anything like they did in 2016 with the Jags, kick it down the road by one year. The Jags, I disagree with you, will in fact rise up. They will pay off some of the optimism that we've been hearing out there. That division is rugged. What were they? Three and thirteen last year? Three and thirteen.

Yeah. I think they, you know, they get up a near eight, nine wins sort of what the- Did you call the AFC South rugged? I mean, it's competitive. That's not not, not, not, I don't mean physically rugged necessarily. But I do think that you have potentially, if you think about it, the Texans have one of and maybe even by years and the best defensive. J.J. Watt can fully bounce back.

That defense is going to be dino might. And now the Jags, as you say, Sessler, at all. three levels are loaded. The only question with the Jags at this point is Blake Bordels and a shoddy offensive line, not something to sleep on, but you would imagine the way Tom Coughlin and everybody keeps pointing out, you know, he's not the head coach, he's not, yeah, well, he's in there and he's over the head coach. You think he's not going to impart some knowledge and apply what he did with a young

Eli Manning to a young Blake Bordles, namely somehow, I don't know, it's simplistic to say he'll be able to get in the kid's ear and control some of the more errant throws. do think he has a track record for that and the philosophy will be grind them on the ground and place style defense and dominate watch out for the jags rising up a little bit here i was completely with cessler on the jags because the thing with the jags is like yes that's great that tom cofflin is there and it will lend itself to be them being a little more rugged of a team and a little bit tougher but the biggest problem with that team is the quarterback and it's still blake boardles going into this year and that doesn't give me any confidence in the team at all like maybe they can

run the ball and maybe they can cover up some of his deficiencies but he did not his footwork did not look good there were so many things that went wrong for him last year that I can't buy into it if it you know for all the tropes that we hear in the spring if those don't prove themselves to be true by midway through August there are some names out there you may have heard about Colin Kaepernick, that would be, I mean, at some point, if you're Coughlin, if you're the coaching staff, you owe it to the rest of the roster, to Callais Campbell, who left a nice situation to come out there and beyond. You owe it to those guys to try and put a winning team out there. And if Bordles ain't ready to go, they'll, I imagine they'll make the switch.

In fact, though, the team that will not be as good, that will not meet the expectations that the football universe seems to have for them is the aforementioned Tennessee Titans. Mike Malarkey, his high watermark is 9 and 7, his first year in Buffalo and 9 and 7 last year in Tennessee. He is not a winning NFL football coach. The idea that because, well, now he'll be able to integrate the pass catching weapons that they've added to their ground and pound style is a little bit of a reach for me in a division that includes the Texans, a resurgent Andrew Luck and the aforementioned Jaguars. See, the difference for me when it comes to Malarkey, you've got Marcus Marriota. If he can stay healthy, everything, all the concerns we just mentioned over Blake Bortles, it is the complete opposite with Marietta.

And adding Corey Davis, I think Corey Davis will be an absolute star this season and next. It's going to take a little bit of time maybe, but that was the right weapon to ask. And I think you've got Dick Leboe on defense. You have an actual defensive backfield now. Logan Ryan is going to be fantastic. like Dori Jackson they talk about is like one of the most athletic cornerbacks drafted in a while. There's pieces on defense.

There is a little bit of deja vu here too because this was the same conversation everyone had last year and by October they were spinning their wheels before Marriota put it together. And the other thing, to the malarkey point, you know, he got a lot of credit last year and I think he deserves a little bit of the doubt coming off that. But when they hired him, everybody thought it was a terrible hire and he had never had any sustained success in the NFL. He does still have something to prove that he can now take a team,

not just being a cute, almost their team, but getting into the playoffs and make some noise. Well, we haven't even mentioned their offensive line either. I think the Titans' offensive line might actually be better than the Cowboys offensive line. They have five starters and not one weak spot on that line. Jack Conklin was awesome, and he was a rookie last year. And then you have Tyler Luan on the other side.

They're both strong in pass protection and run blocking. They're fun, too. I think, Lisa, they are fun. Robinson has done more than any GM in the AFC arguably over the last two years to change that team. They were a train wreck before Malarkey took over. They were an absolute train wreck. They changed their identity.

And I just think, listen, they've started to prove it. They won nine games last year. That to me is like, that's the building block. That's the season that says you can win games. And the quarterback has to stay healthy. He does. Two years, two big injuries. He needs to stay healthy or everything kind of goes by the boards

because they can't get it done without it. Great respect for the Hall of Famer. Dick LeBeau, but the idea, again, so you're talking about bringing in two fresh corners to play in the way he schemes things. Guys do not walk in and immediately play effectively in Dickie LeBow's in his scheme. They just don't. They pride themselves. Dick LeBoe has this weird pride that seems to ignore the free agency period that you only have

a three or four year, five-year window with these kids when they're. walk in the door. No, no, no. It takes it takes a couple of years to get used to the system we're running here. Well, is that really a great strategy? You don't want to make it easy on these kids? Not idea. The idea that Adori Jackson walks in and is immediately a dominant corner for them is overly optimistic, in my opinion.

I'll throw another team in the mix here. As talented as the kid is. Although the new GM is getting a lot of hype and a lot of people are congratulating him on a nice early run in John Lynch, I am interested in the 49ers. The team that I don't think, listen, I don't think they're a Super Bowl contender at this point,

but I think a lot of people are under the impression that they'll be better than last year, but they'll still be a total also ran. I think Kyle Shanahan was a huge higher, considering how down everyone was, especially in the Bay Area, but nationally as well, how down everyone was on ownership and York family up there, that they were able to get Kyle Shanahan.

and then the lynch hiring, which we'll see how it plays out, but so far so good, did they maybe actually hit a home run in this whole reboot, which is the dream for every team that's trying to start from zero. And I think Shanhan's another good example of a guy that he's now jumping into the head coaching position at the right time. Sometimes these guys get like the offensive coordinator up in New England,

Josh McDaniels really get it too soon. I think he's bounced around a little bit. I think this is the time. I think Brian Hoyer is a guy to watch. this year. I think Brian Hoyer is going to have a nice season with Kyle Shanahan, and people are going to act crazy, like, shocked by it, but I won't be surprised at all. Here's why we shouldn't be. We need to save that drop, too. All right, do it. I don't think we should be totally shocked if it does, if they,

if they overachieve, because you look back that the last time Hoyer and Shanahan were paired together was in Cleveland, and they started the season six and three. People forget about that early year, that early success they had that season, but they dominated the Steelers in one game, and it was all about Shanahan scheme. He maximized Brian Hoyer for as long as he could until the whole thing fell apart. They lost Alex Mack. The offensive line went to and then at that point you had nothing. But here's the deal. Here's the deal. Carlos Hyde, I think it could be very successful in that office. He's an excellent coach with running backs. Defensive line, you got DeForest Buckner, Solomon Thomas, the first round pick. Eric

Armstead, you just signed Elvis Dumerville, there are pieces in place to just suddenly map them out for a two and 14 season is a little lazy. I, you know, I don't agree with you about Brian Hoyer necessarily, although that's a great call on what Hoyer did with those Browns a few years back. To me, the irony is, listen, I think you can, you know, really almost flirt with the playoffs if things break right within your division and out if you have, they have the makings of a really dominant defense there, which is how they got to where they were about six years ago. To me, the irony is, and I bet you, if you hooked up Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch to a lie detector, they would both say, yeah, I wish we still had Colin Kaepernick.

That would really be, that would really be what would make us competitive. I don't think you politically could walk. I don't think you could walk into Jed York and company and say, hey, guess what we're doing? We're bringing seven back. Yeah, it's more than you get away with that one. I don't know, he's got a lot of rope right now. But you're right about Carlos Hyde, the most undervalued high-end talent at running back in all the NFL, and they throw in Joe Williams out of Utah.

Now they have a little bit of what the Falcons had going last year with the tandem backfield. Connie, you got one for us? Well, I originally was going with the Jags. Okay, does anybody else want to throw someone? I'll throw out one I think is going to be better again, not a playoff team. But I think the Chicago Bears actually have a chance. Really? I think they did themselves no favors, PR-wise, in the locker room and beyond with their first-round pick.

But I think Mike Lennon ends up with the gig. I think he'll be there. Listen, that offensive line was destroyed last year. What they can do. And you saw what Jordan Howard did as a rookie. Now add back those high-end pieces that they have on the inside of that offensive line. They're going to be able to bang teams offensively. And on defense, John Fox, in this year, if you look at his trajectory with teams,

I mean, he's now going in to the right time frame where that defense is going to be really, that's going to be a good John Fox defense now. They're not going to be 11 and 5 or anything, but I bet you they're around 8 and 8, which would be a major jump for. Wow. What concerns me in Chicago is that if it doesn't get off to a positive start and things start to get ugly and let's say both quarterbacks struggle, both play and both struggle, that the whole thing coming out of the draft was that they

didn't even really share with John Fox what they're playing. lands were with Trubisky until a couple hours before because it basically it comes down to they thought that John Fox would talk to others and they couldn't trust him to keep his mouth shut as sort of was the... That's weird. But that just tells you, I don't like these teams where it's only June and the GM and the coach are both under a tremendous amount of pressure and there will be some pressure if Glennon really struggles to put Trubisky in to see what you have. Why not if they bottom out and then suddenly the season floats away. If everything goes well, eight and eight a lot of teams go eight and eight

so that's not a crazy thing. I guess that's not an outlandish prediction but I do think that they will look back they'll look back at the end of around Christmas of 2017 and then they'll do it again in five years and then in 15 years that they took Mitchell Tribeschi over Jamal Adams

who about 15 years from now he'll be wrapping things up and they'll be talking about how he's about to get a gold jacket really? Yeah I don't know if he's going to have a ring on his finger Hansu's. That's your concern in between what happens in the in between.

Well I'm looking at their wide receiver core. I mean, they're going to run the hell out of the ball. Kevin White, you know, Kevin White's in year three, but don't forget that people were talking about him versus Amari Cooper. It's been injuries that have held him back. Okay. Good talk, guys. And we will have a similar conversation, but within a little twist on an NFL network up to the minute tomorrow. The twist being that it will be about 12 minutes shorter. Yes. And check won't be here. Things like that. Before we go, I need, you know, this is something I don't think we had settled it.

So let's now bring him on the phone. He is a correspondent from the UK living here in America. Handsome Hank, and it worked things out now with Dave Damasek. Handsome Hank, and on some levels, disrespected in a big spot. Your thoughts, Henry? Wow, what an introduction. I wasn't expecting Dave to actually be there.

I feel like I would have been able to talk more freely without my boss being able to over here. My boss, rubbish. I do feel like on Tuesday I was very excited, as I always am, as a collaborator with Dave in his creative endeavors, to join him on his podcast. And I arrived and I was shunned to decide. But I'll be honest, three far superior broadcasters and Dave. but it was a little, you know, upsetting to discover after moving my schedule around that I was no longer needed. Who was the gatekeeper that wouldn't pull back the velvet rope for you at the door that day? Well, I mean, it was Emma, but I would never put that on Emma herself because she's really, you know, having been in that sort of headwriter for the DVFP role myself.

Hansen was our head writer for three, four days. from from Dave himself how about the idea Henry and I don't know if you were told this that a reason why you didn't fit in was because there's only four chairs in here although routinely on our podcast around the NFL podcast we'll have five chairs no problem let's get the dialogue going let's have fun together not exclusionary in any way your thoughts on that right well I mean Dan that's why I really like you because you're a guy who can find creative solutions to problem if it's four chairs like I've got two legs I could have stood you know that that that's that's that's how I see myself

as someone who can come up with solutions. It's situations like this. Stoke in these fires, this is why Sydney didn't take Kansas as her favorite member of the ATN. Henry, as a male,

hello, Henry, and nice to hang out with you yesterday at the game, but I know we're not, no one's, you can't ask this question, but do you, did a little part of you feel like I'm being marginalized because I am a male in this situation?

No, look, I'm fully supportive of what Dave was trying to do. Yeah, why are you such a misogynist, handsome? I think that's what Sessler's asking. I don't think that is what he's asking at all. I think he's giving me an opportunity to prove that I'm not. I don't think that you are necessarily, but please speak. No, I was excited.

Honestly, I can't wait for the podcast that Dave, Colleen, and the crew created because I looked forward to listening to it. I just was honestly, a little selfishly. I just wanted to sit in on it and hear it all happening. Oh, that's so sad. I'm playing the sympathy card. Please send strawberries. Wait, Henry, your take on Damashek's continuing impression of you,

which at times reached fever peak yesterday during the Dodgers game. It's not improving. It hasn't improved since he first tried it out in December 2010. Like all things, Dave. That's pretty much it. Yeah, exactly. Henry, how good as it was going to get about 28 years ago, and that's it. Now, deal with it.

Henry, real quick, what's the name of that thing that cowboys use to get the cattle, they throw it? It's like a rope. Colleen, I think what you're talking about is a lasso. A lasso. Yeah, no, that's it. That's what everyone calls it. All right. I know, Henry, you have to do some fatherly duties now.

But thank you for calling in and just kind of clearing the air a little bit. That's good. Yeah, I'm glad. As always, you've managed to clear the air down. You're that guy. that straightens things out. He's a man of peace. That's what he does.

We're sending him to the Middle East as soon as Kushner steps aside. I can't do worse than that guy. All right. Thank you, Handsome Hank. All right, good to speak to you guys. And I don't want to embarrass Handsome Hank, but a prominent member of NFL media, I don't want to say who it was because I don't want to embarrass her.

But when she did see Handsome Hank in the lobby at the summit, but she let out a gasp and said, handsome Hank. And it seemed to be that she was impressed that Henry really is that handsome. He's earned the nickname. I think that seems to be the reaction he gets from multiple females. I totally get it. And I see the contrast between myself and others enter the room with a zero response from females at all.

So there is a contrast that's quite striking there. Dan, I think it's the same person who told me every time she sees him now, she just screams handsome Hank at him. Hello, Larry. I mean, there's legs there. It's nice. Nice to be handsome Hank. All right.

Dave. Dan. The Dave Damshack football program. Still trucking. Still going. I know. And you believe it? Two times a week.

It's a video show. How much longer can we get? I mean, how much longer we stretch this thing out already? Yes. You get it already. You have a stupid voice and you like things that are black and gold. Go home. Leave us alone already, would you, Dave?

You're into that. If you're into the Steelers, the NFL, fruit. The game of life. That's what we cover. We don't just cover the game of football on DDFP, you understand. We tackle the game of life, which you might even go so far as to say is even more important than the game of football. That's what we're there. Some would say.

So check out the DDFP if you're not already doing it. And, of course, the heat and the light podcast. That as well. Yeah, I mean, that's coming at some point. When, you know, when is that starting? Did it start already? It did start. I was where it started.

Listen, one thing Connor and I did. Well, Connor and I did. You have an episode behind. Hold on. What Connor and I did was we were like, let's just do a project that we have zero expectations for. We put zero preparation into. And once we post it, we do not look back. Worked out for Seinfeld.

Well, we have, we've, the listener's response, I would say, at best, is split. So we're fine with that, though. That means everybody. There is a 50% chance that you will love it. That's the way I like to look at it. It's a 50% chance you'll like it. And, yes, the throwback podcast with my buddy Bob. That is on iTunes.

Check that out. Next time you hear from us will be Tuesday. Greg will be back and we'll dig into more of this Miko Grimes feud and continue to plot our counteroffensive against the wipe of the Bucks cornerback. We will not go quietly into that good night. Thank you, Emma, for your expert work behind the glass. Great job. Guys, I appreciate it.

First time ever. You do a perfect game kind of. No, she did. It was amazing work. And how quickly she got Hank on the phone. I'm just like, wow. And if you're thinking big picture, like career-wise, where do you want to be in five years? I just think that's a good thing to think about it.

Okay. Yeah, I'm going to start thinking about it. She's the head writer of the DDFP, you know. Oh, God. She's much loved by our guests, much more than they enjoy me. You should say, have to have to. People leave the show. People leave the show.

tweet back a day or two later. I love Emma VP. What about the guy whose name's on the show? No, it's all about Emma VP. That's why it's great to have it. I appreciate it. She's a star. Thank you, Emma.

And The Shield tonight, 9 p.m. 4 and 2. I sent the message to the troops last week. We responded with a 21 to 6 victory, and we've got to keep it rolling. 216. They look great. The two games I've been to, I don't know what's happened the other times, but the two that I've seen. You don't play? No, I don't play.

Are you going tonight? Well, we'll see I kind of I burned through some stock on the home front by going to the game yesterday and showing up to my house Why don't you play? I do not, I cannot see for starters

and I cannot wear context. Like the ball would be coming at me it's like sort of a white fuzzy thing that would probably just hit me in the jaw. Problematic in a hand-eye coordination-based game. Yes. All right. Anyway, so yeah, let's go shield. Colleen, thank you.

Yeah, of course. You're a queen. Let's go home Lean Lean My uncle at Nike call me that Lean I like that

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