NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Wilson’s contract & comeback player nominees

Episode Date: June 30, 2015

A room with some heroes -- Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling and Marc Sessler – break down the latest news (5:32) including Russell Wilson’s contract situation and Steve Weatherford’s comments on the Eagles QBs. The guys also list their Comeback Player of the Year candidates (16:28) as well as a few players that could disappoint this season (30:27).Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast goes to lunch together. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I'm joined by a room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler and Chris Wessling. What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. Ooh, wow, a lot of big news.

Mark Sessler back from vacation. Looking refreshed. Well, I noticed the minute I get back, Greg, Rosenthal is gone. That seems to be a signal send from the boss. Perhaps Greg is on vacation. He went to Hawaii. You know, so he is spending a week on the Pacific, if you will, enjoying himself. So you now slide in.

It is a trio here that we're, I feel like every other week we have some type of content on our website. What's the best triplets of this, the best triplets of that? right now there's a triplets tournament going on whereby our friend Ali downstairs has organized us where the best triplets of each college that are current NFL players matching up I find we are probably the best triplets maybe in the NFL media empire right now

with Greg out of the office who's going to top us as triplets well you were triplets with Greg last week are you saying it got better with me replacing Greg and that's what I'm hearing Wes will answer that question after the show privately. I have some opinions on that. Wow.

A man with opinions. That's Chris Wessling. We have a very nice show today. The type of show that you just wouldn't expect on June 30th. You'd say, oh, these guys got nothing to talk about. Well, screw you, because we got a lot to talk about. Get off my back, Dad. You're proud of me now, Dad?

A lot of talk about today. A lot of issues. Don't know where that I came from. All right. I love my dad. Keith Hans. It's a good man. Big show today.

we have top comeback player of the year candidates. Chris Wessling wrote an excellent piece. I read the whole thing, cover to cover. That is unlikely. All his 10 options, how would I know is 10 if I didn't read it? There's no way you read the intro.

Okay, maybe. The top 10 comeback player of the year options Wes had and also threw some on at the end to cover his tail in various places. So we will go through that list and Mark and I will perhaps take him on in some instances and also throw in some options of our own. Also, Sessler hits the ground running upon his return to the NFL media empire.

He wrote a post. Haven't got to it yet. Players likely to disappoint. You threw out, I don't know, five to ten names, I would assume. Six. Six names. Wanted to do ten, but, you know, ran out of steam. Sure, sure.

Yeah, six is a bit of a weird number. June 30th, go ahead and run out of steam. So six players you think could disappoint with some nice expectations. in 2015, and, yeah, Wes and I will take a look at your list and add some of our own and take some shots as well. So that's fun. If we have time, later this week, we'll definitely be hitting up the mailbag. I have a mailbag of written content, which I know both Mark and Wes have read in its entirety of the mailbag.

I didn't even know that existed. There you go. Getting to that. So right back in your face, you take it in the face. Well, you posted it right before we left for the podcast, didn't you? It's posted roughly three hours ago. But anyway, everything is now out in the open, clearly. And I did read your intro, Wes.

Thank you. Nobody in this room respects each other at all. No, but we're going to hit the mailbag on Thursday with Lindsay Rhodes with us. But maybe we'll touch on it, maybe hit a question or two today just to start digging in because our listeners and our readers really stepped up as they always do a lot of questions to go through. so he did that but so yeah that's a lot of stuff to get to uh but before we do any of that we look behind the glass and uh you know there he is he's got a mustache and his hair is neatly parted the type of guy you would want your daughter to date oh but not be behind center it is sully

what's going on fellas now don't think it's a coincidental that there's no t-d after thursday's nightmare production with it with the microphones and the lob mics and listen the The Twitter mentions we were flooded out. TD's been suspended on one show. He said he was busy and would really like the help for me to come in and step in. But his excuse was that Sessler's back. Wow. Somehow it's turned into a Sessler.

He said, I'm not doing it. Cessler's back. I'm out. That's a fine way for him to handle what is a genuine suspension handed down from NFL media. That's right. There was a very real and a very serious sit down. with TD about the production value of the show on Thursday, and we apologize to our listeners.

And what was said as the aftermath was maybe just step away from the chair. And what he then said to Sully, that makes sense. He's on some level a mentor to Sully. And he doesn't want to lose his pride with a kid, a kid as he calls him. So, oh, shots. So there you go. TD is a mentor. I'm willing to be as patsy in this equation, but it's so thin in see-through.

But cutting through all that, Sully, it is good to see you back. Yes, it's good to be back. And the Irishman, Brandon McGuinness, I see him back there. That's right. So let's do some news. All right, let's start in Buffalo. A lot of hype in Buffalo, as we know, every week.

There's another reason seemingly to be excited about the bills if you ignore their quarterback situation. This time we're going to talk a little bit about the defense, and specifically Marcel Darius, who believes that the Buffalo Bills D could be, quote, the best ever with Rex Ryan leading the way this was his exact quote best ever it's so attainable so obtainable all we have to do is continue to do what we want and not what we can if we do what we want and do everything to head in that direction why can't we why can't we west why can't they

well first of all they're not even the best defense of their era or of this year or of last year. How about you start with that, and then we'll go on to tackling the 85 bears of Rex's father, Buddy Ryan, or the 2000 Ravens, or the most underrated defense in history, the 1977 Grits Blitz Falcons that hold the record for fewest points allowed. I thought you were going to say the 1996 Jets. No, don't care about them. Okay. Yeah, I mean, does it seem to you, Mark, that with Rex leaving the Jets, it's almost like he rebooted his personal braggadocious machine and it's now infected is a strong word,

but it's really, it's come straight down, downhill and all these players seem to be very rejuvenated and have that swagger that the Jets once had. Yeah, it certainly feels like a reboot of what we've heard from Rex before. I think part of his game plan when he comes into a team that hasn't won a playoff game in a decade plus is to get them mentally in a different place to say we, you know, to put that spirit in all then that says we're going to be great and maybe it translates i'm not sure they have a better defense than the jets to be honest with you with what the jets have added this off season yeah i think you could i think you'd probably tell when i wrote this i was a little bit torn i

complimented him half the time and took shots at him the other half the time because rex he's refreshing he's a character i like that he's in the league there's nothing wrong with coming in and instilling confidence but you can see that the manchurian candidate stuff is already at work here These guys believe everything Rex says. And it's a little disturbing because everything Rex is about hyperbole. I mean, everything's the best, this. It's like you said, braggadocio, bravado. And he was run out of New York because it was a circus every year.

And it's refreshing this year that Todd Bulls doesn't have a circus. And now already in Buffalo, the circus, they're already setting up the tents there. I just look at the Bill's defense. And, you know, two years ago with Petten as defensive coordinator, they broke their franchise record for sacks. and they went last year and absolutely terrorized quarterbacks again. There's no question about that, but when you want to compare them to, as you mentioned in the article, someone like Seattle, some of the league's better defenses, if you don't have the secondary in today's NFL, there's still a way to, the bills were, they were not a great

defense in certain ways last season at all. Have they gotten better in the secondary to become that team, I don't see that. They're much better at home than they are on the road. And I think if you're going to be the best defense of all time, even the best defense in the NFL, you've got to be good wherever you play. Moving on to Seattle, where Russell Wilson, I guess it's a little bit of a surprise. There's still no contract done with Wilson and the Seahawks. It seemed like this was something that would get done at some point this summer.

I think that's still the goal. But it's not done yet. And Russell is talking about it here and there in different interviews. In an interview with ESPN, he was asked how much he thought he deserved. He laughed and said, I don't know, how much would you pay me? And then he continued. I think ultimately he comes down to the play. Just let my play speak for itself.

No matter if it's $25 million or if it's $1.5 million, I'll be ready to go. And then less than three hours after the interview aired, Wilson cryptically tweeted, Don't believe me, just watch. I believe that's a callback to that Bruno Mars song, which is fitting because Russell Martin is kind of like the Bruno Mars of NFL quarterbacks.

You know, everybody likes him. Everybody says he's very talented. but are we going to say he's one of the greats? Like, is Bruno one of the great pop stars? I don't know. Is Russell Wilson one of the great quarterbacks in the NFL, and should he be paid that way, Chris Wesley? He's going to be paid that way, whether it happens or not.

And this is the story that gets trotted out every single week by NFL insiders, even though the needle hasn't moved one bit since the beginning of the offseason. There's been absolutely no news involved in the story all offseason, and yet we're told there's news every week. Right. Nothing substantial has changed about the story whatsoever. When I was gone last week, you know, occasionally once every maybe fourth day checking anything NFL related. I'm surprised you did that.

Well, it was even by mistake at one point I went on to Twitter and saw some nonsense about can Team X wrestle Russell Wilson away from the Seahawks next year. It's laughable. It's absurd because the Seahawks have been one of the best team building operations around. and they know that until they had Russell Wilson, they were that seven and nine type team. And there's no way you let him go and he'll get paid. A perfect example, too, of what you're saying and what, Wes, you were saying, how the story continues to kind of regurgitate this offseason.

On Sunday afternoon, I was working a news shift for around the NFL and our on-duty editor sent me some quotes from Russell Wilson in which he said, you know, I really want to be here a long time. So I think we'll, you know, take care of business. And he was like, you're going to write this, right? And it was like, well, I don't know. It feels a little fishy. And then sure enough, I did a search.

And he said literally the same thing a month ago, you know, in terms of I want to be here for a long time. So this is just posturing and waiting for the other shoe to drop. They're going to get the deal done. And don't anybody get excited that Russell Wilson is playing for your team because it's never going to happen. Moving on. Steve Weatherford is a punter. Punters aren't, you know, respected generally within the sphere of the NFL. Except by Rich Eisen.

except by Rich Eisen who has started a T-shirt Empire punters are people too but however Weatherford made the mistake I think even he would acknowledge it at this point of speaking out about other football players that aren't punters on a Friday

call in with the WFN boomer and carton show he made several allusions to Eagles quarterbacks calling San Bradford a Ferrari that doesn't always start and calling Mark Sanchez a Cadillac that it's not the fastest, but you know you're going to get out of it.

And then saying of Tim Tebow, similar to call back to my Sully comment, you know, I'd love my daughter to marry him, but I don't want him anywhere near my team or something along those lines, which led to, you know, obviously a lot of outrage. And then Weatherford stepping away yesterday and running from his comments and apologizing to everyone he can. And of course, Jason Kelsey, did you see what Kelsey said, Wes? I did not see what Kelsey said. This is what Kelsey tweeted, which kind of sums it up.

Of course, a player who is literally not allowed to be touched is talking is interviewing punters a thing now, and then at Weatherford 5. So sums it up, Mark? Well, and we know, I mean, you know, Weatherford has had many forays into the media. I mean, he's been on NFL network multiple times, and he's one of the few punters that you could potentially recognize, you know, on the street. I think what he said here is maybe the corrections he made, Dan, as you wrote in the article,

were more absurd than the initial comments because... Yeah, a little corrective steering. The over-emphasis on the skills of Mark Sanchez, it's like, I can't take his analysis very seriously. That he's rock solid. He was scrabble, and he called San Bradford unbelievable when healthy, which he's never been in his career. Unbelievably overpaid.

Yeah. So, listen, I felt bad for the guy, but he underestimated. And, of course, he did the customary thing where you also blame the media for blowing it up. Dude, you said it. And you said it at the end of June to the biggest morning radio show in New York. That's exactly what's going to happen. So you've got to be smarter.

I read this. I had the shift the day before you, and I thought, who cares what John Weatherford thinks? I'm not writing about this. But, I mean, I also looked at his comments and said, yeah, it's true. What is he saying that's untrue in any way? Right. Jason Kelsey here is the one is really overreacting. Right.

Well, it's one other question, Dan, you keep talking about Sully, Marion. And you have a young son, Jack, great young boy. But you don't have a daughter. So let's assume you even had a daughter a year or two from now. Sully is going to be almost 40-something by the time your daughter would be of marrying age. You're sure that you'd want that union to happen. That seems really suspicious to me. And there's probably, no offense, Sally, probably a better guy for her out at that point in her life.

I would hope I'm married by 40-something. Wow. Oh, no, we could notice it. Wow. Take a shots at me. Sully, you just dug yourself. That was. Sully, take the foot out of your mouth.

That's obviously not where I was going on. Wow. Jokes. Jokes. Wes, your thoughts on that. Well, I was, you know, unprovoked attack on my character. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I saw it.

And I don't think I didn't notice it on Twitter, Wes, that someone mentioned how they didn't get their around the NFL podcast fix on Monday. So they re-listened to an old show played podcast. roulette, which is a great idea. Everyone should do it. And it was an episode where I was imploring Wes to, you know, date. And apparently Wes is saying he's becoming more datable recently. Well, I don't think there's cooking. I was under no illusions that I was datable the last couple of years.

I mean, I'm a bit of a monster. Oh, you know what? That's a terrible thing to say about yourself. And we disagree. No, I've spoken with a few girls lately. Some of them are train wrecks and some of them aren't. Oh, he's just got a very specific taste. I do have a very specific taste.

Flawed women. That's flawed, admittedly flawed, but not broken beyond repair. And, of course, like I said, Lindsay Rhodes coming in on Thursday. She seems to be very interested in your love life. And also... Not being a part of it, but just... Right. Lindsay happily married with a child herself.

Yes. But, you know, she might have some things to say. And about your goatee. We'll get into it on Thursday with Lindsay. Wes with a full, full-on goatee. No joke. And from a man that has a mustache, I approve of it. Thank you.

Yeah, I haven't really done the goatee look before. I've done beards, so this is a new avenue for me. All right, that's what's happening in the news. Not a ton, as you might expect. Not necessarily a bad thing either. Okay, so let's move on. We'll get into it now. Chris Wessling, like I said, wrote a piece that is up on NFL.com

slash around the NFL, top comeback player of the year. Candidates for 2015. West, would you like to start with a disclaimer about, you know, last year you were big on RG3? So not necessarily a shot at your analysis, but this is hard to read. No, I feel free to take shots for my RG3 prediction, which was. I was with you 100%. Based in, it made sense at the time. Nothing but wishcasting, apparently.

I wanted to see him return to his former form, and he was, he forgot how to play quarterback, so that didn't happen. Yeah, and that was weird And I do like I'm looking at the list of 10 And I didn't see RG3 there And I was like Oh, I thought maybe Wes would take a shot Did put him on the other candidates list

With Jay Cutler Which I was like, come on Wes Leave those guys off You know they're doing it Well, I do know that But you're right Some tail covering going on here All right

So let's get into the list a little bit And why don't we start I go on descending order Big descending order guy So we'll start with 10 through 8 Jordan Cameron of the Dolphins Colin Kaepernick of the Niners and Victor Cruz of the Giants

In the case of Cruz He's coming back from a serious knee injury Kaepernick just coming back from a mess of a year And Cameron who missed a lot of last year I believe what with head injuries And he had another Malady as well It was just a washout campaign in Cleveland for Cameron

So Mark I'll start with you Which name there jumps out to you As the most likely I like Cruz because I think a lot of the comeback player of the year situation is narrative and there's a chance where Victor Cruz, if Healthy, is seeing the number two cornerback if they aren't even doubling Odell Beckham with two secondary guys all season long, you could potentially have the comeback player of the year and the offensive player of the year at the same position in New York.

No way. Well, probably not, but. Cruz is the one I probably didn't believe in the most out of anything on here. I just, Patel or tendon ruptures are just career. We'll have to see it. Yeah. I mean, you know, he was an underdog guy to start with, so it was a bummer to see that happened.

You know, Cameron, as I've said, you know, the God hates Cleveland rule. It just feels like he's going to come back and have a nice season with Miami and bounce back to form. Kaepernick is the guy. It's hard for me to figure out. I have no idea which way he would go. You can almost say, looking at Wes's list, that he would make the most sense because quarterbacks usually win this award when you look at it historically and he is undeniably

talented and it can't get worse than last year but at the same time does he have enough around him to have a nice season this year yeah i think with cappernick it's one of those cases like what about this situation makes you believe things will be better than last year right but there's also the fact that he's too talented to play as poorly as he did last year all right let's move on number seven Honey Badger, Tyron Metho from Arizona, the defensive back.

There's a Matthew? I would stumble over that. Darren McFadden, the Cowboys running back at six, and Navarro Bowman, the Niners linebacker. And again, you look at these, Bowman coming back with a knee injury that was different, but, you know, every bit as devastating as the type of injury

Cruz is dealing with. McFadden just trying to come back from being deeply ineffective for several years in Oakland. and Honey Badger, who did come back last year from his knee injury, but wasn't all the way back, which could change this year. Wes will start with Honey Badger. You're high on him. Bullish on the Badger.

I'm not the only one. The Cardinals coaching staff is very bullish on him this year. They brought him back. They kind of eased him back in last year. He had basically shredded his knee, so he wasn't ready when the season started. And I think finally this year they're saying they see him back as the guy he was in 2013 when he was in the mix for defensive rookie the year before he tore his knee up. I like Bowman because, again, my one issue with this award is sometimes there seems to be

no real guideline as to how anyone wins because, you know, Honeybadger and Bowman at least would be coming back from massive injuries. And Bowman's also in a situation where, oh, look, this defense lost all its linebackers. We're relying on this guy to come in and do it. and he was awesome in the off-season workouts so far, at least earlier this month. It's a good setup for him to make a name for himself again this season. Let me throw something out there. A little teaser to our next topic.

We'll be talking about Sessler's six players likely to disappoints. I found this interesting. Wes, you have McFadden for Dallas as number six as comeback player of the year. Candidate. Mark, you have McFadden as number three on a list of six as a player likely to disappoint. point. Now I will step out of the way and you guys brawl. We've been on the other. I'm not saying you buy one

tremendously and I buy the other, but I think McFadden is the guy that I just and I hope for his sake that I'm wrong. I just don't buy it and I think if anything there'll be two or three running backs in Dallas that have a certain amount of yardage, but it's not going to be McFadden running for 1,600 yards. I just don't like him as a player that much

at this point. Wes, counterpoint. Well, I understand that. Greg feels the same way. I don't think there's much reason to believe, out of what he's shown in the last three years, there's no reason to believe he'll turn it around. I'm going back to the fact that when he's in the right blocking scheme, with good blocking, I think he's the most blocking dependent running back in the league, and that's why I think he can do it. I'm not saying 100% he's going to break out, but I see him as a guy.

I'm not going to write him off. I think he's in the ideal situation for his skill set. That's not what Wes was saying earlier. He read your list. Oh, really? classic turd sessler well you know dan that's why i appreciate you giving me the unfiltered view of what really happened in the office yep i you know i just got to i don't know the last time i've used the word turd was probably 30 years ago uh this uh classic barf post from sessler he added as well

listen they said we need some content you've been away for a week come in get it done number four through two on this list sam bradford eagles quarterback c j spiller saints running back, Carson Palmer, Cardinals quarterback, and let's see, Sam Bradford coming back from a knee that's really just the knee in theory at this point. C.J. Spiller, kind of lost in the wilderness in Orchard Park, fresh start in Orleans, and Carson Palmer, who's also coming back from a second ACL. Palmer to me, and we keep on, West, we keep on talking about, you know, who are the potential, we don't keep on talking about it, but we've talked about who is the team

of around the NFL in 2015. And if Honey Badger comes back to form and Carson Palmer is healthy, he got a nice offense. Johnny Brown. Nice weapons and he got a great coach. Man, there's a lot to like about the Cardinals if both Honey Badger and Carson Palmer are in consideration this year. I think the around the league, team of around the league, right now, like the gates have

opened and the Vikings and Cardinals have rushed out to the league. Yes, I agree with that. Very fair to say. Yeah, I think Carson Palmer, people don't know that he's 13 and 2. in his last 15 starts, 27 to 12 TD the interception ratio, 96 quarterback rating. Since he mastered Bruce Ariens' offense, this has been one of the best teams in the NFL, and Palmer has been one of the most effective quarterback. Yeah, I mean, we spent the morning while we were writing these up,

watching that old 2003, January 2003 Steelers, Brown's playoff game, where Ariens had Kelly Holcomb throwing for 400-plus yards. This is a perfect offense for Carson Palmer. But I have to look at Bradford. But if he were to play, let's say he were to play 15 games and they go 9 and 7 as a team, that is an easy comeback player of the year situation, just based on the wreckage that is the rest of his career at this point. If he played, you know, back to, I guess, close to the level he was when he was healthy

and he plays a full season in that offense, his numbers are going to be great. And they don't need to be amazingly great. But if he just comes back and puts in a full campaign, bang, he gets my vote. Yeah, I think we don't get it. If he stays healthy, I don't think any question the numbers will follow. The only question is whether Mark Sanchez or Sam Bradford is under center to start the season. Some people wondering, as a quick aside, whether TD suspension is paid or not, the answer is no. Not a paid suspension.

Nor should it be. Forced leave. Finally, number one on Chris Wessling's list. Listen, you probably knew he was coming. Here he is. Adrian Peterson. Vikings running back. And Wes, I'll tee you up here because I like the way you see.

started this bullet because I did read it before we came upstairs. History is instructive. Well, yeah, I think on one hand, you have an award that is the most nebulous award in football. Nebulous. Comeback player of the year. Nobody knows what goes into it. Philip Rivers won a couple of years ago because he was coming off a bad year with poor surrounding talent. That qualifies for comeback player of the year. Adrian Peterson missed 15 games, mostly because of something he did, partly because the climate change in the NFL, I think history is instructive. Michael Vick and Ben Rothelisberger,

they were pariahs, social pariahs, disciplined by the league, and within a few months of coming back, everybody forgot about what they had done. And I think if Peterson comes back by December or January, when they're voting for this award, and if he leads the league in rushing or gets 1,500 rushing yards, and the Vikings are pretty good, that would make him the favor.

It's a good point. Like the way our culture works, If Adrian Peterson is Adrian Peterson again, by Christmas, listen, whether we should or not, nobody will ever talk about what happened to him in the past. It will be just a piece of his history, and he would be the heavy frontrunner. Absolutely, and it won't hurt that by Christmas,

this might be a playoff team in the making. Very nice. Very nice, Mark. Hey, by the way, Mark, give me one that's not on this list. Well, you know, I know that to Wesleying, and this was an outstanding read, but there are only 31 teams in the NFL. and the team that continually is not on his radar.

Did I forget Josh McCown? You forgot Johnny Mansell. Because when good old Josh McCown goes out with a toe injury in week three, and Johnny Manzell fresh from his off-season correctional habits, and he gets on that field and rolls that team to a 9-and-7, 10-and-6 finish, what will the narrative be then? One of the greatest second years. I can assure you that Johnny Manzell is not,

absent because I forgot about him and I'll get behind a Greg who's big on Geno Smith but I'll probably go with Chad Pennington who gets us every couple years probably remodeled this kitchen and did a great job would you believe that in the history of this award Tommy Maddox and John Kittner have one no I don't believe wait what is this what's going on here behind the glass whoa there he is wow Henry Hodgson handsome Hank oh boy steps in holding some some some Ice cream? Wow.

But on the old cans. What a mensch. Handsome Hank from the Dave Damshack football program, buddy. What's up? Hi, guys. Hey, Henry. Hi, how are you? Wow, what is it going on here?

I'm often painted by Mark Sessler as a villain on your podcast. By just me. Well, not just you, but by you sometimes. And so I wanted to prove that I'm actually a nice person. It's blazing hot outside of you've been outside. Summer has arrived in Los Angeles. I 80s in Los Angeles. So I bought a selection of ice creams.

I know you guys get hungry while you work as hard as you do, you know, every day producing terrific content for NFL.com. Wow. I bought a selection. You have four ice creams. Wow. We got a Butterfinger bar, ice cream bar, hog andaz chocolate, dark chocolate, double chocolate, mango.

This is for the, you know, that's for TV. Well, I figure Mark's vegetarian. I'll take the mango. Oh, really? And then cookies and cream. I'll take any of those, but the mango. What do you want, Wes? I'll have any of it.

I'm not even particular. They all look delicious. And Sully behind the glass will get one as well. And not even the mango because Mark took it. No way. I was going to say mango. By the way, the painting me is some sort of anti-hancem Hank because just minutes before the podcast, I tweeted out,

the supplemental draft is coming up next month. That's Henry's Wheelhouse. Yeah, he's our guy, you know, and I think that you're a downright seer, your supplemental mock draft each year. Normally about 99% correct. Henry. That's amazing.

Henry, this. That is true. Yeah, check out Henry Hatchin's supplemental draft post for around the NFL. Always our most accurate content every year, just about. Henry, thank you very much. It's a pleasure. I just enjoy them, and I look forward to listening and hear it. You're not going to eat this the whole way through.

Is Damashchak know about what's happening right now? Because I feel like it wouldn't sit well with him. Oh, he won't mind. Okay. The good thing is he's normally sitting eating amazingly. He's normally sitting eating a salad most of. Did we get rid of Fabiano's refrigerator in this room? It is actually out there.

But I kind of insist on you eating it. Eating while we do it. Oh, okay. I think that sounds more fun. All right, handsome Hank, ladies and gentlemen. That's going to sound horrendous. Thanks, buddy. Crunching on a cookies and cream.

That's terrible. On the eve of Independence Day, too, to see Henry be so magnanimous. Yes, that's right. Special guy. Buy guns, be by God. That is, by the way, people think he's just, you know, Dave's sidekick or whatever. That is the director of programming that just gave us ice cream. So let's read into it as you will.

We are moving up. the old change. All right. Let's move on. That's great. We got ice cream here. That's good. Something to look forward to.

And to keep the show relatively snappy so we can eat it before it melts. Six players likely to disappoint in 2015. Mark Sessler wrote the piece. He originally wanted to do 10. Ran out of steam. Said I can't do anymore. I'm stopping at six. So let's start with six.

That is not completely accurate, but it is mostly accurate. Six through four. Jeremy Macklin, the Chiefs Wide Receiver. Matt Castle, Bill's. quarterback and Byron Maxwell Eagles cornerback. Mark, why did you choose these guys? I don't really like any of them personally. Oh, let's start there.

No, no. You know, this is the thing where Wes put together a post where a lot of players and people will read this and say, what a nice guy. You know, he's casting hope for my future. I realize that this is going to go very poorly because I'm predicting doom for these guys. You wear the black hat. I don't like it. If it leads, it leads, my friend.

There you go. I don't like any player that. It goes from the Eagles offense to the Chiefs offense. Let's start there with Macklin. Matt Castle is a bona fide disaster in waiting. And Byron Maxwell, you know. I get Sally sneaking in here to grab the ice cream. That is a rough move.

No, I respect it. I respect it. He's going to keep it on ice for us. Nicely done. Good producer. Is that truly Fabiano's refrigerator? I just assumed it was. Who knows?

It's, yeah, he uses it frequently. Go ahead, Mark. Byron Maxwell, I think, you know, he was in a secondary where you got Richard Sherman, Earl, Thomas, and Cam Chancell around you. It's not going to be the same situation at Philly. Well, the Matt Castle one, I mean, I think... He may not even make the team. Right.

I think that... Wait, I was going to say, why is he on this list? Because everyone is kind of assuming, unless you're, like, the diast of the diehards in Orchard Park, you're not thinking anything of MacCaths. Well, like I said, I don't... Unless you're Greg Rosen. Or you're Greg.

I don't think much of them personally. That's where it started here. No, but honestly, because they traded for him, I thought initially was we've got our veteran to lead us in week one. And it's not just from here to the end. It's since they brought him in until now, he has been an absolute disappointment.

They called him the worst quarterback in the offseason program. All right. I would take exception with Maxwell. That's the only one. I'm not saying that your points aren't salient on this. They are, but I think he'll pay off for the Eagles. I think it's an interesting to watch because it'll be the first guy that comes out of the Legion of Boom

and is asked to actually go from sort of a number two to a number one guy. How will he do against Odo Beckham, Des Bryant, Deshaun Jackson, guys like this? It's weird that... Excellent points. It's weird that Wes would say you have excellent points and salient points. Because when he printed this paper up,

he muttered to himself, oops, another trip to the Sessler Barf Factory. Listen, I can't control what's... As long as he's keeping a professional on the podcast, we're fine. Barth Factory. Was it like one of those plastic? barfs that you bring to like a bad comedian you tell me man i don't know maybe dan you might be projecting slightly on west number three on this list we talked about darren mcfadden so we'll look at number two

and number one number two josh mccown brown's quarterback mark protecting himself clearly uh new mark is a new way of looking at the browns this year after last year's campaign of hope and it is just a just to just a tuck into like a ball and uh absorb the blows to his ribs and back area. And then number one, so let's stick with McCown right now. Wes, Mark, we'll start with you. Do you really feel confident that McCown is going to be a dud in Cleveland, truly? Yeah, I think there's a couple problems. They're a run-heavy team, and that's in his favor. He had no line last year. So he's going to be better protected, but they arguably have the worst wide receiver group in the league. They arguably have the worst tight end group in the league. They lost

Jordan Cameron. And so who gets you out of a jam when they do invariably when they're seeing eight-man boxes on first and second down and he's forced to make a play. He hasn't done that since Chicago Bears year. Wesleying is a famous McCown apologist. But even West would agree that in that magical six-week stretch in Chicago, it was the Alshan Jeffrey breakout year. It was a 28-year-old Brandon Marshall doing damage. And that was Matt Forte playing behind him. That was a good offense to have that type of breakout, which he doesn't have here. Yeah, McCown, he was perfect for that offense because he would throw the ball up and let his guys make plays, which Jay Cutler didn't do.

Jay Cutler will stare receivers down, wait until they get open, and McCown will just throw them open. Like Mark said, that's not as great of a quality with the Browns, but I kind of feel like I should have put McCown on the comeback player of the year list because I do believe in him. And what you said, he's surrounded by a defense and running game. That's what they're going to do. they're going to coddle him a little bit. And if Brian Hoyer can have the best 10 weeks of his career last year with the same receivers,

I don't have any problems saying McCown can do it. I was just essentially writing this entire piece to put Wes into a corner to actually take a Browns quarterback and spin it positively. I like what I'm hearing. I think that Josh McCown is going to exceed everyone's expectation except the Browns. Exactly, because what they've said about it makes it sound like they've found like a DNA, Peyton Manning's DNA inside his bloodstream. And I don't believe that. Well, that would be gross.

That's true. And finally, number one, Nick Foles, the Rams quarterback. You know, he goes from Chip Kelly's offense where he wasn't even good last year, which is known as potentially the quarterback-proof offense around here. Now he's going to St. Louis. And what's the last quarterback that did a damn thing under Jeff Fisher's watch? That was the McNair. Right.

Shared the 2003 MVP with Peyton Manning, I believe? Rest in peace, Steve. Maybe even in spite of Jeff Fisher. I mean, that was my premise that, like, you've got to prove it to me in St. Louis before I get on board the Nick Foles train. I had, apparently, last week or the week before, I mentioned that the Rams could be the worst offense in the NFL, and a Rams fan took exception to that on Twitter and said, please explain, as if it's some outrageous comment.

They have a new offensive coordinator. They have a quarterback with major accuracy issues. They have a running back coming off an ACL injury, and they have a wide receiver core that has yet to have anyone top of 800 yards in what? Since like 1992 or something. And they have an offensive line that has three new parts and nobody knows who's playing center or right guard. So yeah, they could easily be the worst offense in the NFL.

Well, probably wrong to say they've not had someone top that amount of yards since 1992 because they were one of the best offenses in the history of football in the late 90s. The greatest show on Barf. Wes, your choice, a player that you think. is likely to disappoint that's not here. Jimmy Garoppolo. I was thinking Garoppolo myself. Everyone just assumes he's going to step in for the Super Bowl MVP and do great.

The Patriots have the two best quarterbacks in the NFL. Tom Brady and Jimmy Garabolo. Give me a break. Garapolo has to play against the Bills. He has to play against the Jaguars. All right, I can't get worked up about that. I believe he has to play against the Steelers. Come on.

You can't just – Garoppolo is just going to put him in there and they're going to be Super Bowl caliber again. Exactly. This guy's going to be put on his ball. But everybody thinks Jimmy Grappel because he carries himself well and is playing in New England under Tom Brady. Well, you know, Ryan Mallet, you know, never became anything. Why are we assuming that the second round pick will?

Well, the only thing I'd say is that they were able to take Matt Castle, who is now a train wreck and milk an 11 in five season. Well, hold on. That team had the greatest wide receiver his generation and the greatest slot receiver of its generation. This one still has the best coach. This is still the team that prepares better than any other team in the league. league. I get that. But that's a fair one because people have anointed

Gropolo is like he's going to come and roll him to four and out. I'll throw out. I would say Jimmy Graham, but we talked about that last week, but I do think Jimmy Graham will take a step back in his first year in Seattle, perhaps not permanently, but I think it will take some time there for him to be the guy, so I see him disappointing. But I'll throw out Frank Gore. I think a lot of people are bullish on Frank Gore stepping in there and being 2008 Frank Gore. But this is an older guy. I mean, most 32. two running, 32-year-old running backs aren't the same player anymore. So to expect him, no matter how good that offense is,

to all of a sudden be the answer to all their problems in the backfield, I think it's asking a little bit much of Frank Gore. I think you're on the right track except for, I don't think it's a small point he's going to be facing the softest boxes of his career. Yeah. Guys like, boom, Harron, and Ahmad Bradshaw rushing for five yards per carry behind that line in that offense. All right.

So that's it. That was the six players likely to disappoint with two bonus players. Really three. I really want to dig into it a little bit. All right. Before we get out of here, we wanted to hit the mailbag. We're going to do it more extensively on Thursday, but wanted to dig in a little bit today.

Ask a couple of questions or see a couple of questions. So why don't we start with, oh, I like this one. This is from Peter Squires. At Peter underscore Squires. Marshawn Lynch dove into. a pool of Skittles on Conan last night, what food would each ATN hero like to

dive into a pool of? If you could choose one food to dive into, what would it be? Mark. I could much easier think of things I wouldn't want to dive into. Tuna fish. Oh, yeah. It's disgusting.

Cottage cheese. I'd rather die. I'd literally rather just be killed than to have to do that. Into is water a fish? food? No. Orange juice. That's not a food.

That's a drink. So you hate food so much you don't even know what food is. I will dive into lettuce and then I will easily just climb right out. Well, no, because it won't even get on me. I think Bugs Bunny already beat you to that one. Wes. We don't, we're not eating the food, so it doesn't matter if I even like it. To me, I'm going for what would be best to actually physically jump into.

Gonjello. That'd be fun. That's fun. It's made of horses, but that's fine. All right. That's fine. It's like broken down. I like, you got me thinking differently because it would be fun to dive into some chocolate pudding, maybe.

You'd be sloppy. I don't like being messy like that. All right, that's fair. But I will say I would love to dive into a pile of chicken parm heroes. Oh, that is. And I would eat. I wouldn't get right out. I would take a break and just kind of do some backstrokes, eat some chicken farm.

I can picture. Mark disgusted, by the way. No, it just seems like a waste of time. Eating, a waste of time. Mark Sessler. What else we got here? Oh, Mark, this is for you from Christopher Wachin at Singh for the day. Is Mark going to one day abandon ATN to pursue a career in art, in or around Omaha?

That wasn't on the radar. Not on the radar at the moment. Omaha, I have been through there on a bus in roughly 1998 or so, have not been back since. I was going to say, what is the Omaha tie in? I don't know. Unless it's a reference to a counting crow's song. We should thank Atson for the day for sending us a trophy a few months back. He made up an award called Listener's Choice Award and sent us a trophy.

It was very nice. All right. Let's do one more. This from Asbjorn, 1975. Oh, he's great. Okay. I like that guy. Well, good question here.

To me, Dan, are you sad that the new radicals are tired after one album and their song, you get what you give. I'm not necessarily sad about it, but I think I've tweeted in the past that that's my favorite one-hit Wonder of the 90s. Wasn't that the song that was blaring when they opened up the roof at the Super Bowl? It was, and that's exactly when I tweeted it,

and I said it was one of the best singles or the 90s. It might have been a little more hyperbolic. I might have said it was the best single and caught some heat. It was this song. Definitely in one-hit wonder. The New Radicals was actually,

I believe his name is Greg. something or other and it was a one-man band and he went he went into production work after this he never put out another album but this pop gem great song is a tremendous one hit wonder which got me thinking what's with these bands that have plural one guy uses a plural band name like the mountain goats yeah i mean it's confusing bright eyes it happens occasionally uh but it got me thinking i was curious what you guys thought what was your favorite one hit wonder of the 90s mine was the new radicals you get what you give Chris Wesley, yours. I took a trip down memory lane. I had a list of like 10 or 12 of these that I was just

really fond of, and they all brought up a specific memory. Music is that way. It is a trigger of nostalgia. Thank you. Return it, return the Mac, obviously, but I think for purposes of this exercise, primitive radio gods standing outside a broken phone booth with money in my hand, which kind of reminds me the title. There you go. The Bob Dylan stuck inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues again. That's a different sound. And you, Clude me into something on this song. Originally, take off on a BB King song. Oh, that's BB King singing.

That is the sample, the late BB King. Yes, this was on the, what soundtrack, by the way, for a sandwich? Would have been late 90s, right? Mid-90s. Mid-90s. Train spotting. No. Romeo and Juliet, but that's not true.

Yes, the cable guy soundtrack. I don't even know what that is. Jim Carrier. Oh. I thought you're talking about the comedian. Directed by Ben Stiller. All right, finally, Mark Sessler, your one hit one. Well, this also, I had a couple candidates here,

but when I remembered and came across Lens, steal my sunshine, there was no other way to go. This song just makes me happy. It does. It's a very particular time in the 90s. It seems like around 97 to me or something. It's 99. It's right around the turn of the century.

And you've got to go watch the video, which they went made like three versions of this song by the way but the video. Milk and that hit is absolutely it is a bunch it's a peacetime bunch of gibronies rolling around on mopeds in like a in an absolute excess in what I think is Miami Beach

maybe it didn't seem like LA to me I think the key word there is peace time it makes for different more lively music in peacetime it's definitely a pre-9-11 song yes not to bring it down but it has that vibe like before never to be heard from again well I think our young

Our younger listeners might not know, like, what kind of America we were from 1995 until 2001. Everything was upbeat. Yeah, well, it's good times. Everything changed. Life is sick. Back when Silly was three. Silly. I was born in 91.

You're a boy. I was kicking. You're a boy. And I would get on you, you know, we want to hear your 90s song. I'd get on you. You were too young to appreciate the 90s. But as someone that was born 1980, myself, I loved 80s music. I loved 80s music when I was growing up and was a teenager and got older.

So I'm not going to... No, 90s music is my favorite type of music. So let's hear, Sully, first, explain what is your... Okay, well, this one goes back to skating around on roller rinks. Birthday parties going back in the day. Backwards skaters only. This was a huge song back in 98, I believe. It's stupid.

Oh, God. Absolute classic. Is this Eiffel 35? This song is terrible. It came down between this. Well, you don't get to do this. He's going to do multiple. That's cheating.

I can't too much. I actually liked that song when it came out, I believe. I'm sticking to this. You could tell us what was your runner-up? I'm just out of curiosity. Tal Bachman, she's so high. So high above me. By the time you were cognizant, Sully, to start to get into music,

you had missed, like, the late, late 90s is wearing things turned a little bit and then all of a sudden the pop stuff and sync and Backstreet Boys hit and it was all over and then oh my god the new rock with corn and limbiscuit and things got real dark the early 90s you had a lot of gym yeah early I would say yeah well I love 90s music period but one hit wonders late 90s was pretty pretty pristine that was missing out on things like concrete blonde Joey in 92 that was one of me you knew west would take us backwards not forwards oh you can go tub thumping Chumbawamba.

We mentioned that downstairs. That was my third runner up. Saved tonight by Eagle Eye Cherry. Oh, saved tonight. He blew something? Breakfast at Tiffany's? Oh, yeah. That's my favorite Pandora station, by the way.

Don't say too much so. The Mighty, Mighty Boston? I think their fans would be upset to say they were a wonderful one. They have fans. Oh, huge fan base. Really? Yeah, a big Boston band. All right.

That's it for Tuesday's edition of the Around the NFL podcast. We'll be back later in the week with the great Lindsay. Rosie sitting in Greg's chair so that will be fun we'll get into the top 100

and all other good stuff so thank you for listening this is Dan Hansa signing off for the sizzler the mailman

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