NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Winners and Losers of the 2019 NFL draft

Episode Date: April 28, 2019

A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal recap the the 2019 NFL Draft that was filled with many surprises. Josh Rosen has been traded to the Dolphins (4:20) shortly after Kyler Murray was drafted first and the heroes also discuss how Joe Flacco will handle a new rookie QB drafted under him (24:29).Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. The 2019 NFL draft is in the books, seven rounds, 256 picks, 255. It doesn't matter. What matters is teams now-254. 254. Wow, slacking this year of the draft.

Less compics, less movement. in days of old. It's one way to look at it. It feels long enough to me, but. It does feel it's a long, long event. It was in Nashville and Tytune fans always getting on me on Twitter because I don't like your quarterback and your team's been a little boring for about 20 years. But what I will say was, again, the draft, they stumbled into this because Radio City

Music Hall and the Madison Square Garden Company had the audacity to book out that facility, Radio City, about five years ago, book it out from under the NFL after the NFL had been in that building for decades doing the draft. It was a great tradition for the old Zeus. It was great to get back to New York and see family. Everything was perfect about it. And then the garden. For you.

Again, James Dolan, that guy, the guy have to replace as the owner of the Knicks. They go and what leads to the NFL going all around the country every year and another great, great setting for the draft. I wish we were there. We should be there next year. That's enough of the studio stuff. Let's go to the draft next year. The Nashville setting looked to me.

I know Philly was nice in Dallas, I guess, but this looked like almost an inaugural address in previous ones versus the most recent one, which they hyped up to be what it was not. It was massive. But Dan, I do remember at Radio City Music Hall, you left with a seismic and lingering back issue. It was a neck issue.

Nick in those theater seats. That's true. They do have to rip it. out those seats, which were basically put in probably around the turn of the 20th century. So, you know, it wasn't a smaller human being. They're meant for five foot two men. Yeah. Anyway, long story short, it's a huge hit traveling the country.

It's like Lollapalooza at this point. But we're going to get through all of the big storylines across the league after the draft. Because, yes, the rosters now, that's it. I mean, there will be moves that happen and repercussions from the. seven rounds over the last three days. But the team, when you look at your favorite team's roster now, you know, this is more or less, this is it now, Greg. This is what you were going to be taken into camp and preparing to try to have a successful

season. Yeah, for the most part, that's true. There's a few lingering issues. Who knows if there could be veteran trades still out there, but it didn't happen over this draft weekend, which surprised me a little bit. And that means it, you know what time it is? It's projected starter season coming up. Oh, yes.

One of Greg's most famous, you know, cycle pieces every spring. That one now chews up a lot of column time, doesn't it? A couple months almost. Two weeks. Well, you called it a season, so I would hope it would last longer than two weeks. All right. So what we're going to do is we're going to go through all the winners and losers in our minds from the 2019 NFL draft. We'll check in on a couple of things, including go get my lunch, see where Mark ended up with his mock draft.

any other final takeaways that we all have. But let's start with winners and losers. I'll get it going. And it will hit on what was the main storyline entering the draft. Arizona Cardinals, who, let's face it, we cannot be throwing bouquets at the feet of Steve Kime and Michael Bidwell

and everyone else connected with that organization because it is really bad at the end of the day to me. I don't care if there was a regime. change that you drafted, you moved up to take a quarterback in the top 10. And then the very next year, you take another quarterback. It's just not a good look. But that's in the past now. And that's why, to me, they're a winner is not only did they ultimately decide Kyler Murray is a superstar in waiting that paired with Cliff Kingsbury is going to take Arizona out of the doldrums and fast the way we hear, people that love Murray as a prospect. They also then

were able to, um, on Friday, pull the trigger on a deal to get Josh Rosen last year's number number one pick out of town. They send them to Miami. Do they get back a first round or? No, but they do get back a second rounder, which is better than I expected. And I think some people expect it would be even worse than that. So they get a two back and they get the bad juju around Rosen and the, you know,

unfollowing on Instagram, the Cardinals after the draft and just the, the bad vibe of having the two of them in the building. So what they get is what they needed. This is a totally fresh start for this organization with Kyle. as the face of the franchise going forward. From play caller to quarterback to receiving core to offensive line, this was a sub-NFL level offense last year. And now you've got a new quarterback, a new play caller.

You signed three offensive linemen and free agency, got two more healthy after being injured, and you've completely revamped your wide receiver core, adding Andy Isabella, Keene Butler, and Kay Sean Johnson. You're not going to be able to identify this offense. To me, it looks like a grand experiment with Cliff Kingsbury and Kyler Murray. And they're kind of following the Rams model, except I think it's going to be even more new school and spread and just aggressive throwing the ball because of Kyler Murray, just because he brings something different to the table. But when you look at the receivers that they got, Isabella, maybe kind of like that Brandon Cook's type. Hakeem Butler, just this monstrous receiver that the draft Knicks loved.

I mean, a lot of people had them in their top 15 to 20, even 10. He didn't get taken until the fourth round. but like a red zone type. You got Christian Kirk, you have Larry Fitzgerald. They're all different flavors. You have David Johnson to the point where you can kind of see. And Isabella is the guy they ultimately got for Rosen. So you got a significant player at the end of the second round.

Like you have all these different flavors. I'm expecting them to be entertaining week one, week two. They might not be great, but I'm expecting them to be four or five win type of team. And if nothing else, like, I'm going to want to watch them. Yeah, and I think it's, you know, it kind of reminds me of the year when we were hit with suddenly the RG3 and the RG3 and the option for the first time and to some degree in the NFL and it caught the league by storm and it was how do you solve this? How long can it last? It is cool when you see a completely new

offense to some degree hit the scene. I will say and he's not a winner. Josh Rosen, it's been a rough couple months for him about as rough as you could imagine for your first full offseason as a first round quarterback. You thought this would be the offseason where you take charge and take hold of the team. But I will say for him being the guy that's knocked for his extra personality and being a little bit to modernize for old school coaches. I love what he did today. He didn't have to do anything, but he put out essentially a video, and he spent the first three minutes of it thanking the Cardinals, thanking their coaches, thanking the fans,

and then he went to the Dolphins. You don't have to do that. Well, he did everything right over the past month or so, and again, it's smart to do it. You don't have to be a genius to do it this way because it would hurt his trade value when he wanted out of town. But he went to voluntary workouts. He went through all that. He was practicing on the day they drafted to Colorado Murray.

That's pretty strange. I mean, he, and we'll play it a little bit later. Steve Smith, the NFL network, absolutely destroyed Rosen yesterday on air. And maybe we'll play it later. But I think he did pretty much everything right. I don't get hung up about the Instagram thing. Even once I think Lire Fitzgerald's softball, charity softball game scheduled for today, he leaves the nice message and now goes to Miami Fresh Start.

He's 22 years old. He started 13 games as a 21-year-old. I think he has a chance to be really good. And that's why I have Chris Greer and the Miami Dolphins as a big-time winner. Because whether Rosen works out or not, I don't think you can doubt the process they used to get him. They didn't use their first round pick on him. They didn't even use their number 48 overall pick on him.

They made the Cardinals weighted out. They traded down with the Saints. They pick up a 20-20-second round pick. and then they trade the pick for Josh Rosen. So it was almost like you got him for a free, like you're going to have that pick next year. You got him for so little, and you can evaluate him during this season.

He might not be the weak one starter, but he'll start at some point, and you'll be able to make a more informed decision about possibly taking a quarterback a year from now. If you don't have a franchise quarterback, I think you should take a swing every year, and I'd rather have him than Haskins. I'd rather have him than Daniel Jones.

He'll be comfortable with the surrounding talent, in Miami because it's a lot like last year's in Arizona that's that is the problem the one thing is you would if if you want to make the case chate o'shaye the offensive coordinator from the patriots you know that that the kind of parcels air heart offense is really built around the quarterback strengths to start it's uh you know guy it's you know evaluating what you're going to do before the snap after the snap it hopefully helps out a smart quarterback like rosen and you have Jim Caldwell there as your quarterback's coach assistant head coach who's done a pretty good job with quarterbacks. I think the dolphins, the hope started for the dolphins, and it's no knock on

Mike Tenenbaum for what he's done in general. But when they shifted away from him, they brought in Chris Greer was there, but to allow the plan. And, you know, Evan Silva's talked about it with Astro Ball and that someone in there got on that plan. But the dolphins who started over 100,000 times have a plan now. You got a quarterback at essentially zero cost on your Cap who has a lot of potential. And for me, the winner is the rest of the AFC East, and we need to see it first, but there is some hope because, A, the experience of the New England Patriots

is at a critical mass point where your quarterback is a couple years away from being 45 years old. You've lost Rob Grumkowski. I believe in what the bills are doing from a team-building perspective. They've had a couple good drafts in a row, like the head coach. The Dolphins finally have a plan. And I know that there's some buzz around Mike McCagnan and Adam Gase, maybe not getting along right now, but let's see how that shakes out.

Mike McCagin and I thought two years in a row is to help change that team. The Jets are not a lost ship the way they were. There are quarterbacks in place here. That has not been the case in so long that that division, which has been just handed to one team since essentially 2001, I hope that that will change now. There's actually something to look at. Brady is the only quarterback in the division that wasn't a top 10 pick in last year's draft, you know, if Rosen gets the starting job.

I mean, the issue with Miami, though, is it's nice to have this plan. You've got to get some players. Well, they're the worst team in the NFL by far. But that's okay right now. It's okay. Right. I love what the bills and jets have done. I would totally remove the Dolphins and say they're not even a 2019 proposition.

And I did see someone either on network coverage or on Twitter said, well, now that the dolphins have Josh Rosen, they're going to be in the same situation as the Cardinals with Rosen next year potentially. He's like, no, it's a totally separate situation. And Rosen's getting paid peanuts because the Dolphins don't even have to pay out the big first round bonus. Right. So this is a perfect evaluation window with Ryan Fitzpatrick as a perfect backup quarter. If you think about it, I mean, he's made, Rosen is making less money over the course of his contract than Colt McCoy's making this year. Then Chase Daniel made a year ago.

Well, he's cheap for a backup. If he wound up being a backup, he's incredibly cheap. And I still, I still believe that he has a lot more potential. than that. What I also like, he wasn't thrust on the coaching staff. They talked about Shadow Shea and Brian Flores being very involved in the trade negotiations and that they want him there. So it's not another bad situation for Josh Rosen ultimately.

Wes, give me another winner. Look to the hat right now. Wes is wearing an Indianapolis cult hat. I didn't even give me pause and I saw it. He's like, oh, Wes is a cults fan. That makes sense. You love this team. Well, they are now what really impresses me.

and I'm taking a step back and looking at the macro view here. They are in sort of a 2004 Patriots mode right now without the Super Bowl titles, but they're using every draft to stockpile young talent by taking the best player available, adding team speed because Chris Ballard did such a good job. What's your favorite type of product? Of immediately taking a baron roster and get it to the point where you can take best player available and stockpile picks for the next year every year. So he's already stockpiled a next year.

extra second rounder for next year. He gets two or three second rounders every year. What he did with that Jets trade and the windfall has basically set this organization up to be a contender for a long, long time. And I tweeted that yesterday. And to me, it was pretty revealing that not one single troll, not one single hater, not one single pessimist came into my mentions and said, you're crazy. The Colts are a joke. They're not that good. I think everybody knows this team is set up. Well, this is who they got for Sam Darnold in the end with the picks that they traded. They got Quentin Nelson, star player. They got Braden Smith, who quietly had a great rookie season as a starting tackle, which is very valuable.

They got Jordan Wilkins and Kameco, Teray, who are two later round picks. And they got Rock Yesin, West, I mean, Mark's boy. Las Vegas. Listen to these names they drafted. E.J. Speed. Marvell Tell. What a great name Marvell Tell is. Well, and you know what, I guess it's because they had such a good draft last year that I just

assume these picks are going to be. I'm like it's like oh yeah rock you sin what a value what a fit for them when they drafted paris campbell who was a guy I thought the patriots might be interested in with one of their second round picks because he's got that wide receiver running back like percy harvin cordial patterson kind of feel of like you can use him in different sorts of ways and he's just explosive this exactly what the colts need right and that's what I mean it's like you because they've built up this quick track record you're like oh well that's perfect that's they're going to know how to use Paris Campbell because that's what Frank Wright does. I'd ask on the flip side from a loser's standpoint, do the Texans have the correct team-building

people in place to keep up with the Colts and keep up with-shot at Pearl River? And keep up with the Titans, too. Well, I think the difference between the Colts and the Texans right now is how top-heavy the Texans are. They have the stars, but the Colts are building incredible depth right now. And the Texans, I think you question their depth. One thing that we didn't talk about on the show that really stuck out to me this week was the report that Gidevi and Clowny could be available in a trade, which didn't happen. And, you know, none of these potential big trades happened.

That's why I do wonder if there could be anything still hanging out there. Nelson Aguilar and Clowny would be two names I would think about in the next couple of weeks, especially Clowny. But it's hard to imagine he would get traded now. Solomon Thomas out there? Clowny? It's hard to believe if you have Deveevi and Clowny in your building that you're letting him go out. Um, let's move to losers. We can jump around. Oh yeah.

Throw out a loser. Um, got to bring up the Giants. They can't ignore it. And, uh, as someone that grew up in New York and just as a Jets fan, how hard it's been to not only see your team just struggle for decades and decades, but then have everyone, for instance, in the town where I grew up with was Giants fans and just be so envious of how well run that organization has been for, what feels like 30 years and that's probably not that far off. I mean, winning Super Bowls, always in the mix,

down seasons mixed in every once in a while, but sooner or later they always get it back together and get back in a run. They've just been one of the best run franchises in the league over that time. And that's just not the case right now. And this is the time of year where people jump to conclusions

late in April and say, this team had a terrible draft. this team had a good draft when actually no one knows and we'll see and maybe the sixth overall pick daniel jones turns into a a big time player for them maybe these other players that dave getleman brought in uh will make the giants a more um competitive team after two straight last place finishes but everyone that is killing the giants right now it is completely fair because they don't seem to have a plan in place there's no consistency to what they're doing and by having Eli Manning still in the building

and then the press conference that Gettleman and the Giants give in which Gettlement talks about how he's following these models of other teams like the Packers, how Eli could be starting for three years and all this. It's just inflaming a fan base that lost its patience when O'Dell Beckham got traded. And then you followed up with a hyper-controversial draft

where you no longer have the benefit of the doubt of your fan base. So you're getting absolutely roasted and it's not unfair. The Giants after years and years and years of stability seem to be teetering on the brink of disaster and a columnist for NJ.com wrote a really good piece about this that Dave Gettelman, if this goes wrong with Jones

in this draft class, will be the man who ruined the Giants. That will be his legacy. That will be in his obituary. That will be on his tombstone. Why do he ruin the giants? Well, the ruining started a few years ago. I believe, with the Mars hiring Gettlement. But people won't remember it that way, though.

With McAdoo, I mean, this is, it's very similar to the end of the Macadoo. You're right, there's been a decline, but what's happened over the last few months, if Jones can't play, Gettleman's fate will be sealed. I totally agree with you, Ann, and you're so right that the Giants' demise has roots that go far beyond Gettelman's arrival previous to that. But then he's the guy that people will remember, and think about Talk Radio growing up listen to WFAN. Who can get over this if you're a run-of-the-mill Giants fan?

You gave up O'Dell Beckham for a defensive tackle, Dexter Lawrence, Gibral-Peppers, a up-and-down safety with clear flaws and some strengths, and a defensive end that no one can pronounce his last name. I don't know. Oh, Shane Eximini-S. I mean, this is what you gave up O'D-Dembeck for. The number 90-5. Well, it doesn't make him a bad player necessarily.

You know what? He could be a two-time pro bowler over the course of eight years, and it won't matter. I'm glad he brought up the defensive player. though, because as much as Daniel Jones is going to kind of write the history of the Gettelman era, the more immediate pressure

is on their defense to get better. It's one of the very worst defenses in the league and they got rid of two of their best players in Olivier Vernon and Landon Collins. And this draft when you look past Jones was all about defense. They drafted a cornerback in the supplemental draft

last year that never played. That was their third round pick. They drafted a first round corner DeAndre Baker, another fourth round corner, a pass rusher that you mentioned, and then you had Dexter Lawrence. So this is all these defensive picks, and James Betcher, who had a nice run as a coordinator in Arizona, did not do a good job with the Giants last year. And it's like, that defense needs to be better fast, because I don't think you can expect Eli Manning to be outscoring teams.

Along with the Giants, I look at teams, losers for me are teams that you have. Can I say one thing about the Giants? Sure, jump in. I think the most depressing thing to me, if I'm a fan, is that all of their major acquisitions seem like a destitute's man's version of the player they're replacing from Eli to Olivier Vernon to Snacks to Landon Collins to Odell Beckham to I guess DeAndre Baker might be better than Eli Apple so that's one but everyone else is a lesser version than what you got gave away and every one of

those players were surrounded in confusing PR messaging from the GM on down and I Jones has to overcome the fact that no one like it was a tough couple days for Jones you get drafted number six overall you expect that to be excited He's hearing all this criticism. Oh, he's been put in a terrible spot. I mean, it's along with the Giants, teams that simply have had roster disasters occur or potential roster disasters and have to use the draft to just fill what look like holes. The Chiefs what's going on with Tyreek Hill.

So suddenly you have to turn around and draft wide receivers who, like in New York, are going to be lesser than Tyreek Hill. The Seahawks potentially losing Doug Baldwin, we find out this weekend. He may walk away because of an injury situation. D.K. Metcalfe, fine. but there are a lot of people that are not high on D.K. Metcalfe, and he has to go in and somehow, in theory, be better than Doug Baldwin. That's not how you want your draft to go.

Yeah. Metcalf is, you know, an outside guy. Baldwin's irreplaceable. I mean, he's the most valuable receiver they've had in the Russell Wilson era and had a great mind meld with Wilson. And Metcalf, you know, for that part of the draft, it was the last pick, basically, the second round could be a good value. He's a big guy. But they were number one on my losers list, just because it kind of came out of nowhere.

We don't know how these rookies are going to be, but knowing that Doug Baldwin is examining the end of his career and the way that the front office talked about it. That broke this weekend. That broke on Friday. He's had a ton of surgeries. And what they said was they're working through the process with the league and the players union having to deal with some stuff with Baldwin,

which tells me, or at least indicates, they're probably working on some contractual stuff in terms of his guaranteed money in a very similar way to Cam Chancellor that his career might be over but they're trying to figure out the money and that's a killer loss for the Seahawks. If you said that Doug Baldwin is the most

underrated skill position player of the last half decade, I think every Seahawks fan would be nodding in unison. You brought up the Chiefs and the Tyreek Hill replacement who they hope to be the Georgia player Hardman.

And it just to me, it is such a bad situation, obviously. I mean, it's a tragic situation when you look at what's going on with Tyrick Hill and all that. And for the Chiefs, this is a team that was right on the doorstep of the Super Bowl. And now they're in a place where there's this drama unfolding on the first night of the draft. And then the next night of the draft, they are essentially what it all seems like is you're replacing Tyreek Hill with this kid. And for a team that's Super Bowl or bust mode, that seems like a risky move. They have to do.

it. It's a roll of the dice. They're going to hope that he'll hit the ground running. If not, Patrick Moore Holmes is not going to be the same producer he was last year. That's how big Hill was. So it's just a massive roll of the dice and hope that they could plug and play this kid and find ways to put up points the way they did last year. And they're just vulnerable the chiefs are in a way that I would never have imagined it in January. In a division where the Chargers only got better. And they kept, you know, releasing, they released a few more statements on Tyree Kill, but they all were kind of the same. That essentially he's been sent home from team activity.

They said that the chief's owner made a statement that he was deeply disturbed. They have not indicated yet that they're going to release him. The public's not going to have so much patience with that, by the way. Yeah, I'm not sure what the, what the timing, like, we'll just have to see. It's an impossible situation for the team to be in. I mean, they knew what they were getting into with Tyree Kill when they drafted him. So it's not like it's a total, oh, look, what happened. to us here, but the longer this draws out, you can't just keep on putting out statements

saying how disappointed you are. People are going to want actions, and that's going to just intensify the pressure and bad vibes around the team. It's a very tough spot they're in. Well, Tarik Hill is not an exception. This is, the chickens are coming home to roost on an organizational philosophy about taking chances on players with character issues. And I wonder John Dorsey is part of that, too. Of course. Kind of taking that with him a little bit to Cleveland, at least on top of them. If what happened the last two days happened last week, I wonder if the Frank Clark trade would have gone down considering his past.

I'm going to throw out another loser for the week. Okay. Joe Flacco. You know, who is grouchier about having... Good thing I'm between Wes and Greg right now. Go ahead, Greg. Well, I'm just saying who is grouchier about having a rookie quarterback behind him? I don't blame him than Joe Flacco last year.

And then he made some comments... Like since Brett Farve, yes. He made some comments leading up into the draft that made it, clear. Of course, he doesn't want them to draft a rookie quarterback. He really didn't want it with number 10, but he said, yeah, I want this team to get in the best position possible to be at its best with me at the quarterback position. Obviously, it's not that important. It's not of the most importance to draft a quarterback. If we do, that's completely out of my control. And they take Drew Locke, number 42 overall, who is different than Flacco, has a big arm, kind of, you know, is getting

the reputee, you know, maybe the profile of a, of a cutler, you know, going to take a lot of chances, has a big arm, kind of fun to watch. But Flacco's got to know, they're three and five. Fans are going to want him. And he's Elway's hand-pick guy. And Mike Cleese, who seems to have a pretty good B-line into Elway's mind, said Drew Locke was the number one quarterback on the Broncos board, which is something we heard before the draft. So even though he was taking 42nd overall, to me that means they think he's a first-round type of talent.

And Flacco's, you know, starts the year. with a short leash. I mean, sorry, go ahead. I would say all that is fair. I would look at it slightly differently that Joe Flacco got Noah Fant, which he desperately needed. That's fair.

He got Dalton Reisner. They needed interior offensive line help, and they waited to the second round to take a quarterback who is not NFL ready. If you're Joe Flacco, you say, hey, the offense is better. This team can be a contender if I play up to my potential. If I don't get it done, I don't get it done.

All you're asking for is a chance. The only did disturbing D&N. is that if you're Flacco and you're in that stage of your career, wherever you go, people are drafting the guy behind you. And all last off season, we thought about Flacco is sort of, oh, we're not going to see Lamar Jackson. He's not ready to go. Well, as soon as they remove Joe Flacco,

they go on like a seven-game run to the playoffs, there's some thought that, oh, well, if Joe Flacco is holding the offense back at all, we've got this guy we drafted. It worked for the Ravens. It's a different situation. Put the young guy. And I think he's just annoying, like on a day-to-day level

that he's going to have to answer questions about it every single press conference that he's going to be in the in the room with your lock but i would give out john o'ay who's taking a lot of fire on this podcast a nice little winner job because he traded down for fan he used that pick to wind up trading back up for lock and i and i agree the talent that he got was pretty intriguing i'm with you on that and i you know i'm always getting on elway uh but i think and i didn't think he was going to take a quarterback in the first round he didn't the second round and taking him without having a trade up and he and you and you just get him at 40 he did trade up sorry but he did get 42 overall there's not an an outstanding amount of

pressure on elway to nail this one like it would have been if he took lock at 10 for instance so it gives you a little bit of leeway there as the boss and then on top of it just gives the organization more flexibility because he may really believe in flaco and other people may really believe in flaco but if it doesn't work out before this drift they would really have nowhere to go and now they do. Now they have a kid they can put into the mix and the organization

just has more flexibility. Insurance is sold for a reason. Absolutely. How about another winner? Anybody got another winner? Can I throw out my loser first? Okay. Oh yeah, go ahead, Chris Wesleying.

I hate to do this to my hometown, but... Oh, no. The Bengals defense to borrow a Patrick Claibon term was trash juice for most of last year. Grass juice. And the biggest impact player

they've added is what? A third-round linebacker, Jermaine Pratt, they did not improve this defense nearly enough from last season. They probably think that getting some players back from injury, especially in the secondary, would help. But I'm with you that on paper, I don't think that's quite enough. I think a quick winner would be the Niners defense. You had Joey Bosa.

You've added D. Ford. DeForest Buckner's there. Eric Armstead. Solomon Thomas was whispered as a trade candidate, but he's still around. You, if you're Roberts, if you're the defense coordinator, you don't have a real reason for this defense not to take a major step forward. I think a winner and unfortunately the losers are football fans also would be Andy Dalton

because that's great that you took Ryan Finley. But if you go read the scouting report on Ryan Finley, it sounds like almost a shakier version of Andy Dalton. They directed him to be the backup. That's what I'm saying. He's essentially a backup for us. Yeah, they traded up for him. They saw how Driscoll played last year and said,

we need a better backup. It's the opposite of Arizona where it said, we have a coach who's a young offensive mind and we're going to mold this team and give you everything you need, the same way that Kyle Shanhan was treated in San Francisco. You're Zach Taylor, you're stuck with Andy Dalton, and very little else has changed.

Very little else has changed. Like, who would you, if you were looking to upgrade over Andy Dalton in this draft, who would you? I'm not saying it's the greatest draft of all time, but I would say it's the eighth or ninth year in a row where they refuse to bring in a real challenger. Dwayne Haskins? They could have taken Haskins,

but I think they thought, that wasn't big enough of a difference, you know, maybe, between Dalton. I mean, but they've, they've evaluated this poorly for almost a decade at this point. At this point, you've got to give them a little bit of a fresh start. I think they'd like to see what Taylor can do with Dalton, and you get the sense that's how he sold himself to them to get the job to at least see what they look like together for one year. But yeah, it's not.

Yeah, I mean, to me, that is a raging yawn. Like, that team needs a fresh start, a quarterback. Two words you don't usually hear to. together, but I like it. Raging Yon. Like they're playing at the Troubadour later tonight. Raging Yon. It's like when Greg described DeAngelo Williams as wildly patient.

Greg, it's happening. It's the second time in, I think, three weeks. I have to say this, but the loser here is, you boy, the inconvenient truth. And maybe any bills running back over the age of 30 because, you know, they go and they get T.J. Yeldon, a nice young third down back. And then they draft this guy, this kid, Devin Singletary. So now, Gore's in a tough spot Because they also said after the draft.

Or is Sean McCoy? That's what I thought. One or both of those guys are history. Brandon Bean, you know, because he got that question after the draft said, LaShawn McCoy is going to be part of our team. He's a important part of it. Frank Gore going to be the gunner on this team? What's the move?

I mean, Gore or Yeldon or both won't make the team. They can save some serious coin if they move on from LaShawn McCoy. Yeah, or I would rule that out. Or another general manager is just standing at the podium line for his team. like we've seen throughout the office. LaShawn McCoy also, apparently, and I'm not really plugged in on the superhero movies,

but spoiled this new Avengers movie. People are really upset with it. I really enjoyed that. It was like a huge story all over the world. It was like a corker of a, because I read it once I saw the story because I don't care about the spoiler. And it was a, it was a, it was as pretty devastating.

It was as spoiler as you can. And then he backed it up with even more. Like he did multiple tweets. It was great. And that's fine if we think it's funny because you don't care about Avengers. I don't. care about it any but if you were like they then stay off Twitter before you see the movie like

that's on you but it can't but you're in a adult but Greg that's a little bit crazy just to blame everyone else that's a that's a whole move by Lashon I'm saying if it's that important to your life then which is true to the brand all right that's what I'm saying there's there's there's evidence that he's this kind of guy okay but it didn't do it to it says something about these Marvel fans yes that Lashon McCoy could treat people like trash for the last eight years over and over and over again and they don't have a problem with it until he reveals the spoiler

and now he's a jerk. Why are we assuming they don't have a problem with that? Most of them probably didn't even know who Lashon McCoy was until this happened. I'm talking about football writers who have been voicing their... Well, that's fine, but what if they...

Now you're all in on Game of Thrones West. What if he came in and dropped here's what's going to happen? You would care. Here's a note. I don't care ever about spoilers. Why would I care that much about spoilers? It's on me. That's fine, but you are not in the majority

when it comes to this vehicle of entertainment. So we're just going to take everyone else down. It's so great what Lyshawn McCoy did. No, it's not. I have huge problems, Willie, did, but big deals, boy, let's come on. Based on the tone of it, I don't think in this case, I know, it's amazing, this is the most fire up the room. Well, no, because I don't like right away, like, just every...

I'm not defending it. Like, it's going to make more money than any movie ever. Everyone who goes to see it, stay off Twitter for five days because Lashon McCoy wants to have his fun. I'm just saying if it's that important to you that it's really going to cause consternation, yeah, or see the movie right away. Of course.

It was clear from the way he wrote it, by the way. It was like, he wasn't trying to spoil it. He was like excited to talk about the movie and just like, wow, it's crazy that. You're like, isn't that crazy, bros? You know, I don't know. Idiot. He's a fool.

Right. That's, that's, and of course, the spoiler is that Captain America and the Incredible Hulk fall in love, become communist and move to Russia. I mean, you could have seen that coming if you, I mean, we need not watch these, but if you had, you'd see that coming. And, yes, reestablish a communist stronghold that we've never seen before.

Political. Yeah. How about a winner, the Patriots offensive physicality? While the rest of the league is spreading out. Speaking of raging snore. Yeah. While the rest of the league is spreading out and getting lighter, I feel like the Patriots are doubling down on what worked for them at the end of last season, which was getting a little more condensed, be a little more physical.

They get a physical receiver in Nikiel Harry who can take some of those red zone snaps. They get Damian Harris, very surprising pick to me, the starting running back over Josh Jacobs, who was the first round pick for the Raiders at Alabama, who's a physical big running back. I mean, they've got a million running backs right now. They take a right tackle type at the end of the third round. And I mostly like that they actually took their picks for the most part. They moved around the board, but they took six guys in the first three rounds, right? or five guys in the first three rounds.

They took a second round pick. They went years without these top 60 picks, and they need some lifeblood. Like, they need Joanne Williams, their cornerback. They need Chase Winowich to come through because it just doesn't have a lot of young players on this roster right now,

but they're all kind of of the same type, physical. You're back in on the Patriots. I like it. I mean, I want to see these, I want to see them be competitive. I think they'll be competitive. I don't think of the way about that. And one last thought.

I won't call it him a loser, but a loser or someone that's, you know, in danger. But back earlier this month, we talked about who should be nervous about the NFL draft. I remember bringing up Todd Gurley as one of them. And then, you know, maybe the Rams find somebody that's going to potentially take some of his workload. Well, the Rams did take a running back in the third round. Sean McVeigh was on NFL network and kind of played the whole thing down and said, it's just another compliment to the offense. Perhaps it is.

but it's something that bears to bear watching here because we don't know what the status of it is. He's a really different type of running back, but it adds to the fact that they match the Lions offer for Malcolm Brown. So you do have, you know, and sort of much more of a stable here. But Daryl Henderson is like described as sort of a boom or bust like dude that either runs for like a 50-yard touchdown or does not.

I think if you look at some of the best teams in league, a lot of them, the more running backs, the better. I think it really helps the, I think it's really helped the Patriots to have different types of running backs and have three or four guys. I was surprised to see that the Eagles take Miles Sanders from Penn State

with one of their second round picks, but they like having three, four, five running backs too. They're a team that like, if you look at the start, it was all offense, Andre Dillard, Sanders, and they took JJ Arsega White Side. Like, guys that might not even see the field right away, but they just have so much depth on their offense

at every position. especially running back I was a little nervous kind of moving more into general takeaways of the draft ready to just fade in a one last winner sure do it well we talked about what the Patriots have lost and what's going on with the chiefs and Tyreek Hill the Chargers got better while these two teams got worse and the Chargers are building one of the best defenses in the NFL they pick up Nazer Adderley and Jerry Tillery drew tranquil for their defense which was already loaded from last year they signed Thomas Davis this is the This is to me the team to meet in the NFC, and the Colts are right there, too. You know, Greg, Tillerie is a avid, skilled tennis player. At six-foot-seven. I listened to him and do an interview with Lindsay Road last night, and he, number one, sounded, well, he's rookies because you have these events, and it's like, they are trained and they are good at saying nothing interesting at all.

He's completely opposite. Yeah. Then I think, like, that was one. And he also has this background in finance where he, you know, he made a lot of money with the stock market and has a company. Like, that was one of those things scouts didn't like. Oh, this guy, he's too smart. Real quick.

And he plays tennis. They didn't like that about Rosen either. Someone should say that three days ago, the Washington Redskins were a punching bag, and everybody was taking shots at them. And they came out of this draft way better than people thought they would to pick up Dwayne Haskins and Montes sweat in the first round, and then Terry McLauram,

one of my favorite players in the draft. Their front seven now on defense after taking the flyer on Ruben Foster is stacked. This is a pretty good defense. They picked up Landon Collins. They're weird because if you just look at their roster, if they got quarterback play, if you were a fan, you can certainly make the argument that's like,

that could be a 10-win team, but I don't know. I just don't trust it somehow. That's also fair. It usually goes wrong, but on paper, I'm with you. It looks pretty talented. They're another team that took,

they took Bryce Love, the Stanford running back, who has, he's going to rehab this year probably, but was awesome in 2017. And it was another one of those things that triggered Darius, Geis to respond on social media with one of those smiley, nor non-smiley faces, just like a face.

Like, excuse me? Say what? Say what? I mean, skepticism is advised. It's just that the bar is so low for the Redskins when everybody's just laughing at them three days. That was the emoji that our friend David Ely and Andrew Groover translated for Rich Eisen, kind of like a non-plus.

Or for Ian. For Ian, rather. And then got a shout-out during the draft on NFL Network. That's big time. I mean, David Ely is going to be pop in champagne. Lying. He didn't get to pop it at Super Bowl 50, but he pops it tonight because he gets referenced on national television. Some takeaways.

You know, one thing when you watch the draft, and by the way, I absolutely crack the code on how to watch the draft. I don't think the bosses will get mad for this angle because I think you're still giving them the rating. And I'm not a Nielsen family anyway. It doesn't matter. Well, anyway, getting lost in the weeds here. So we all. collected we didn't come into the office Friday so we watched um rounds two and three from our homes or whatever i did the thing where you wait an hour you devr the draft you wait an hour you get away from

social media you know you don't need to be dug into social media at all times so there's no concerns about spoilers i waited 60 to 80 minutes then started the draft and my goodness how incredible you get to wipe out all the pop and circumstance all the commercials Ned from Verizon. The broken pelvis guy. Everything just gets melted away. We're not buying your broken pelvis, Verizon guy. Please.

Yeah. What is with that? That commercial aired approximately 700 times. Which is a thousand times less than Old Town Road was played during. Right. What else? Other takeaways? My one issue with the draft along the whole televised line, which I don't know how to fix it,

so maybe don't even raise it, but I'm going to, is that, like, if you were writing like a book or a screenplay and you said I'm going to make the first act exciting but it's going to just get worse from there like the story is going to unravel and it's going to become

a chore to read or to endure why the draft needs to find a way to make the final 80% of it more tolerable for the viewer no it doesn't because what this industry

has done is turn this into a massive television event I know but it's bad about ratings from a television Saturdays for the diehards. It's bad dramatic structure to have the first part of it be good, but then it just completely flies off. Our boss, one of our bosses, one of our many, Todd Sperry,

suggested they should do the picks in reverse. Now, that would take it. Well, he said do the entire draft and then release them in reverse, which is not a terrible idea. I mean, it was never supposed to be, like what the draft is was never supposed to be a 15-hour TV show. It got turned into that. That's my issue.

The NFL and ESPN and everybody has to work, there are darned us to make it entertaining for all that time. But really at the heart of it, it's just a draft. There's not much you can do with it. It's a draft. It's just guys going up to a microphone and talking. I was amazed at the crowd that was there on Saturdays, especially. There's no players there.

There's just, I don't know, it was cool, but it's kind of crazy. James Stolen. I'm happy for people who are into the draft. I had to explain to Lakeisha earlier today that this is not, for me personally, this is not a television event. It is something I can get the results online as soon as they happen. And I'll be just happy.

One takeaway I have is that Panthers fans and this happens basically when any quarterback is drafted. Need to calm down when you draft Will Greer late in the third round. You know, A, you're not wasting your pick by taking a quarterback. Backup quarterbacks are incredibly valuable

and especially when you have to start Tyler Heineke and Kyle Allen and, you know, NFL games in the regular season. Kyle Allen looked like Unitas. Right. Did Charlie Casterly once tell us, Greg? Yeah, the most important person in your organization is your quarterback. And the second most important person in your organization is your backup quarterback.

I think he even went third. Yeah, I would go third and then the quarterback coach. I don't have it in me. You know, like there doesn't need to be a controversy every time a quarterback is taking. Thank you. It's so deep in the draft. Like, the Patriots have taken four or five. I can't remember when Kevin O'Connell was taken.

Quarterbacks higher than Will Greer was taken for the Panthers. It doesn't mean anything about Cam Newton. But Cam Newton is an injury-prone starter now the last couple of years. And it's good to have like, it's a great investment. Kevin O'Connell's now a coach. It's not a waste of a pick. Like half your third-round picks end up thinking anyways. It was the 100th pick.

It does two things. It gives you a backup and it gives you a chance to build his value and flip him for even more value if he plays well when Cam Newton gets injured. circling back to my Nielsen story and the fast forwarding of the DVR and how it's a great move. Oh, yeah. We guys want the exciting conclusion, right?

So when they did get to the Jets pick at 68 overall, you know, you stop and play and you listen. You're really plugged in for it. And what you really want, and this could be any person watching the draft and their favorite team, you want it, the pick to be made, and then instantly you want DJ,

move the sticks to be on fire. You want Charles Davis to be like, I love this pick. This is incredible. it's always the worst where it's just a little quiet and there's just like well this you know and boom or bust gets thrown out there when the Jets took Jekai

Polite Outside the line background of Florida it was I would say a little muted the response Well he was not liked well by the half commune And then ESPN did a little writing up about it That his scouting combine performance was awful On and off the field

One NFL scout said polite He doesn't have issues he is an issue. The same scout called him arrogant and not a team player. Well, that's a boomer bus pick right there, gentlemen. Can I give you some optimism on this one?

Yeah. I would say this is one of the few names where in January, the draft Knicks who were grinding the tape, really, he stood out and they loved him. And then it wasn't until he started acting a fool at the combine that everyone was like, oh, this guy's no good.

He was the one that got mad about the packers. He didn't, he got mad at the Packers for how they, he didn't like the end. Like a knucklehead, but his combine time was unimpressive. And then his pro date time was almost impossibly worse than the combine time. So to me, it's a major red flag when the guy's out of shape during the draft runoff. Just a bit. Maybe he also had like 11 sacks last year and was kind of a beast.

So maybe he'll be a stunt. Eight of them came in one game. Are you at all worried, Dan, about the very, there was multiple reports. You know, not from big time sources. Although one of them was Michael Lombardi ready in the athletic, kind of as a throwaway about some mcagnin gase heat and then more surprisingly to me that mccagin could lose his job and there have been also from reputable sources i i forget which national writer it was whether it was ian or adam shepard said watch out there could be some big time

shakeups after the draft in some front offices but they didn't say who um i guess i wouldn't i want stability every organization every fan base wants stability so i wouldn't love it if big mac got fired. But I also will say like, you know, it's not like McAgnon deserves to have this job absolutely. And he's done some tremendous job. The middle round picks, especially, he has been very hit or miss more on the miss side. He is, because they've had so many poor teams, has gotten a lot of high first round picks. And to his credit, I think he's done a good job in the first round. And it was a great trade last year to get Darnold. So if they fired him tomorrow, that would be a big shock, but I also wouldn't be like

they just let a guy out the door that was really going to build this team and put them into the Super Bowl. I would like with Adam Gage's. I think they're the only team that hasn't won at least six games in a season over the last three years, which is his second, third, and fourth year. I think every other NFL team is. I just feel like wherever Adam Gase

seems to wind up, there are hints of internal power struggle because I feel like he never was on the same page with Miami's front office, certainly the later incarnation of it, the one we're getting now. And And there's never been drama around Mike McCagnan with other people inside the Jets building. Suddenly, it's being whispered about, you know, power struggle.

Headlock watch. Yeah, it's a headlock watch. There's always going to be heat in the kitchen in a floor. I kind of like it. It's kind of fun, as long as it doesn't get out of control. I like that you're basically just going with it because you probably can't stop it. But you know what? When I look at it, yes, that would be very Jets for there to be some big soap opera blowout,

right when the Giants are up in flames and you're the stable franchise in New York. But on balance, I'm very happy and excited and optimistic about the direction of the team and how there are some real blue chip players on both sides of the ball now. And a new coaching staff that while combustible also, I kind of excited about seeing how Williams and Gase do with the offense and defense. What was it that you said on Thursday night, West, Dan? Oh, that I think this is the most, I don't know if excited is the right word. Maybe it was that I've been about the jet since I've known Dan.

You don't dread turning on the tape potentially this year. Right. I think my biggest problem with the Jets is they've been ultra boring, but they get so much media coverage. And now they're going to get media coverage, but they might not be boring. Any other thoughts? Before we move on,

we've got to check in a couple other things. Let's move on. All right, Mark, your mock draft. Let's hit the 2019 Mark Sessler mock draft where he ended up. All right. Not bad, Mark. Not bad. You had by Mike.

count, really by Mark's count, he set this along, his PR team. Well, all right. So yeah, break it down as you are. We may need to, yeah, go. Kyler Murray. It's like when the president releases his own approval ratings. Well, I don't put that parallel out there. Kyler Murray and Nick Bosa won two. You got that right. You nailed it, but a lot of people did. Those were the spots nailed. The best are correct landings. Now, these last four, you got the right landings and not the right spots or necessarily even the rounds, but the right spot. Which is half a point, right, Wes.

Well, it is, but I have something to say about Josh. No, you don't need to say anything. anything else. Dwayne Haskins to the Redskins, Mark predicted, Drew Locke to the Broncos, Josh Jacobs to the Raiders, and D.K. Metcalfe to the Seahawks. Not necessarily where Mark had these guys all going on the first round. Not only not necessarily, not. Not all of them went in the first round, but you know what? He got the teams right. I give you fractions positive for three of those picks, but Josh Jacobs, everyone else in the community got this pick right and you did? Well, hold on. There were a lot of other things that a lot of people all got right

that I did not get right. So I should get credit for not zagging off of Josh Jacobs. All right, that's fair. I mean, you know, I was the one that went a little extra with Quentin Williams and dropped him like five spots lower than everyone else had. So, you know, didn't make the mistake with Josh Jacobs. And the only thing, what would have really driven things home for you is if you were able to get that quarterback.

The Patriots did draft the quarterback, but not the one that you predicted as the hammer. Well, and the Panthers selected Will Greer one spot before New England hit the clock. How mad were you? I mean, at that point, I was mentally and emotionally dead at that point. But the Patriots also had to pick three spots before the Panthers, and then they traded down behind them. I know, but Greg, you don't need to say that. I've just saying it.

You don't need to add the always the footnote. It would indicate. Footnote free. Greg's a big footnote. Free. We don't mean, just let it go. It would seem to indicate that they were not. It doesn't indicate anything.

Just let it go. Seem to indicate they wouldn't take Greer. Let it go. I'd call it a success, the first annual Marksfessler. Well, vaguely, vague success. The buzz, the pop. I mean, from another angle, an incredible failure because, I mean... Your brand really took, you know, a leap, I think.

In a cottage industry really mired in a group think swamp, you are not afraid. Wait, so how many picks for yourself on these picks? How many picks did you get right? Well, I'm getting half a credit for... Haffy for correct landing spots, but not at the pick. If you're curious, I was looking... The over one under was three, and I surpassed you. I was looking for some...

If we gave you credit for the half rights. I was looking for if it was like a tough year or not. I can't find a big scale one, but at least McShay, Jeremiah, and Kuyper. McShay and Jeremiah both had nine right. I heard that Silva came in first again. And got 10. And Kiper got seven.

I'm not surprised. I think Silva got 10. Oh, no. Really? I think he won again. Wait, why is it? why is it oh no no? Because I'm trying to establish a brand here with Mark Sessler. I know, but I

now I'm looking at the standings and it's not as good as I thought. Mark's brand doesn't care about whether he gets it right or not. I spent a day and a half on it. What if I actually spent two weeks on it? My goal is to make Mark a huge brand and then ride his coattails to a couple hundred grand. I think the

avenue to that is not through accuracy. Right. That I would agree with. Let's not make that the avenue. Let's check in with Go Get My Lunch. and all right Chris Wessling actually Greg Rosenthal

by percentage points as I'm looking at you finish 7 and 4 first place in the draft Go get my lunch.org Nick Fortier The man tracks all of our predictions

over the course of the season and through the league year let's see the universal prop was Josh Rose and what team will he be on on Sunday, April 28th? Nice job by Wes. Chris Wessling nails it. He's got the dolphins.

The organic fish tank does not let you down, Wes. Well, thank you to Greg for this. Because if you'll recall, Mark and I both had the Cardinals. Greg said he wanted the Cardinals. I didn't want three people on the Cardinals. And I kind of had a funny feeling about the Dolphins anyway. So Greg gave me an excuse to jump off. So, yes, Wes got that one.

But Greg won the overall round at seven and four. West won seven and five, though. But Greg, you said Raiders draft the QB in round one. That cost you three sandwiches. But then you hit on one. Patriots don't draft the tight end within the first two rounds. Which I got a couple on. Well done.

Yeah, Dan and I got killed on that. Did they draft one? They didn't draft one the whole time. Austin Savarian, Jagan, step on up. You are. T.E.1. I've put a few things together. I wouldn't be surprised if Ben Watson comes out of retirement

and joins their team because there's been some whispers that he might not retire after all and Michael Lombardi made this little comment. Shaking in my boots on that. Yeah, I'm not saying it's going to save their team. Yeah. But come back to us, Ben Watson. First round pick.

You also had the Giants will draft the QB in round one. Nobody took you up on it, but according to Nick Fortier, you get the credit for getting it right. I bet Ben Watson. and can still chase down Champ Bailey. All right, Chris Wesleying, seven and five. Jets will make a trade involving the number three overall pick.

No, they did not. They stayed as they were. They took Quinn and Williams, cost you three sandwiches. The Bengals or Lions draft a QB within the first two rounds. Did not happen. Banged. Two more sandwich. What happened to all this Lions quarterback talk?

Well, there was, it was interesting that one of the teams traded up ahead of the Lions to take a quarterback in the second round. Who am I thinking? Was it the Broncos? True Lockman? And there was some belief that they were worried that that Locke could go there. So when I heard that, I thought of you, Chris. That was a bad job by me, that particular one.

And then you, of course, you nailed Josh Rosen going to the Dolphins. Mark and I, neither of us got anything right, but Mark did a better job taking up sandwiches. He goes four and four. The Giants won't draft a QB at number six. They did. They took Daniel Jones of Duke. That was a missed opportunity by all of us. He's not a quarterback.

None of us took you up on it. So even though you didn't lose any sandwiches, we were still shaming. In the clear. It just goes to show how far the Browns and their fans have come that you are now lobbying quarterback put downs at other teams. And you deserve it after all those years. Yeah.

I just asked. I didn't say he's not. I asked the question. Lean into it. I think he should lean into it. The Browns trade into the first round. I should have taken you up on this, but I thought the logic was sound

because the cowboy GM of the Browns wanted to make another splash. He didn't. He stayed where he was or he didn't move into the first round. Greg and West did take you up on that. You had the Cardinals as the Josh Rosen team on Sunday. Then the old Zusser, a tough one, three and eight.

I never do well in this exercise in the draft. It's always been a bad spot for me. Giants, Redskins, Dolphins, or Broncos will trade into the top five. Didn't have it. and nobody moved out of the 5th. Not a year of trades. Well, there were actually more trades than any of the draft in the first round.

In the first round. Not a big fireworks round one in terms of trading. But that cost me three sandwiches. More quarterbacks will be selected in round one than running back and wide receiver combined. Ooh. You got bang late there. I'll tell you what. You know who got you.

Nikiel Harry and the Patriots. Thank you for delivering that sandwich. And you know who did indirectly? supposedly the Falcons traded up to 31 to draft that Reich top tackle, Caleb. Irish Barry. Supposedly the Patriots were interested in taking him. So indirectly, if that hadn't happened, I think you would have gotten your sandwiches. Yeah.

Well, don't be so gleeful about it. But I was on fire. I was up 3-0. Old footnote over here. I was up 3-0. And I think I was up 3-0 after the 20th pick. I was cruising. And then, yes, it went all the way to 32 in the Patriots.

And they take the wide receiver that locks me in at three to three, three quarterbacks taken, three running back slash wide receivers taken. And I had made it very clear that if it was a push, I lose. And I've never done this before. In all the years, we've done the show and all the anger that I've had towards the Patriots. And all the times this organization has screwed me, both personally and my favorite team one thing i've never done but i'm going to do it right now new england patriots i declare vengeance now i do it your boy tom brady i would i would like someone to go through the 1,260 episode

may your bones go brittle i feel like you have declared vengeance on them may your muscles go limp literally like four times and your mind grow feeble and that goes for your head coach too I declare vengeance. This is the end. Never would have thought this would be the straw that breaks the camel's back. I think I'd like one of our listeners to find some old ones.

I'm pretty sure. I don't think I did. But I don't think I ever actually declared vengeance on that organization until now. And watch what happens. Mark my words. Bring this tape back up come January. It's fine.

I think you've declared vengeance on me, but I don't remember the Patriot. Bad things happen to you. If I were patrons, I wouldn't mess around with this. Check your front office for voodoo dolls. All right. Anybody else have anything else to add about this wonderful three-day period of the NFL? I'm going through my notes. I feel like we cover a lot.

Let's get out of here. Good job by the Vikings. Glad we got that in. Oh, the Bucks drafted another kicker. time in the fifth round, Maddie Gay, will compete with Cairo Santos. And the guy they picked up from Germany. Their top five picks. Maurice Moringer?

What's his name? Philip Anderson from the German Football League. I thought it was injured. With Bruce Ariens there, their first five picks were all defense. That defense is so bad for so long, and they've spent a lot on it. Todd Bowles winner. Never gets any better. Patriots straighted up for a punter.

What a joke. Nice job, also by the Ravens. A right-footed punter. The Ravens got explosive players in Marquise Brown, Miles Boykin, and then Justice Hill from Oklahoma State. All these guys are like, you know, 90th percentile athletic testing, just like can take it one play to make a touchdown at any point. You put them with Lamar Jackson.

I don't know. At least the Ravens will be interested. They also drafted Trace McSorley, the Penn State quarterback, who John Harbaugh came on an NFL network. and acknowledge that he may, they may find a way to put him on the field with Lamar Jackson and sort of a Taysome Hill type spicy sauce. Oh, and I did mention this earlier.

Before we go, I do, let's listen to Steve Smith going off on Josh Rosen because it was some fire and brimstone stuff. Every team is drafted. We got six rounds to six rounds in the next couple of days. Guys are getting replaced. You are replaceable. No one.

They say in the league, the more you can do, it helps your opportunity. So now you're mad because they brought some competition in here. So you're going to try to take your ball. Well, first of all, son, it ain't your damn ball to take anyway. So you just keep playing with your phone, and you keep showing us what the stigma of you and who you were was at UCLA. Now you brought it to the professional level of the shoulders.

You're still going to, when things don't go your way, you're going to cry in the corner. But guess what? They're going to ship your ass home somewhere else, and you can go cry and be their problem. Listen, this is a man's game. be a man and go against that man one-on-one he gets ten plays you get ten plays do your deal ain't nobody giving you nothing only thing you can get on this stage right now it's a free ass look and everything else you got to work hard for you know what the crime of josh rosen you know what that's why he's getting buried here because he unfollowed their instagram account yes now i'm not

going to tell steve smith to calm down because steve smith will come find me but i don't know if Josh Rosen deserves that beating. Quite the contrary, I think he's handled himself and acquitted himself quite well during a very difficult situation. I mean, to be fair, it came before Rosen did the video today, and Rosen also never verbally complained about being put in the worst situation last year

a rookie quarterback could possibly put... They changed the name of their handle to Cards Got Kiler. I think they were a little in question. It was like 25 posts straight, and it was from the Cards Got Kiler account. I mean, it's also like a generational thing, too. I don't think unfollowing is some... Yeah, well, Steve Smith has proven to be a good TV analyst,

and I'm sure this made for good TV, and when you're a 5-foot-9 wide receiver drafted in the third round, you have to adopt that mindset that everything's a competition. Everybody's trying to steal your job. You have to be absolutely rock tough, and that's how you get to be a third-round receiver in the Hall of Fame. But that's not the same as being drafted as a first-round quarterback, and the next year they take your replacement number one overall.

That's not competition. That's your out the door. Right. And he was, and it's not the same Instagram account also sent out, you know, a post just a couple months before that said, Josh is our guy. It doesn't look as good in red. I mean, Josh is essentially just annoyed with the Cardinal's social media department. I agree. We can understand that.

So we hit on a whole bunch of teams, obviously, over the last two shows. But if you are a listener of the show and you're hoping for more. conversation about your favorite team. Well, we've got good news for you. This upcoming week, we'll be back Tuesday, two shows next week, but two of our favorite shows of the season, around the AFC in 48 minutes on Tuesday, around the NFC in 48 minutes on Thursday,

every team, three minutes of devoted talk. So pinch yourselves. Oh, yeah. That's it. Good job. Good job, everybody. Good job, everybody. Good draft.

Good draft, Ricky. I know they had you. Burn in the midnight aisle until four in the morning the other night. For real? And back here and back here the next morning on Friday. That feels like it breaks some sort of a code. But, you know, someone somewhere can look deeper into that. It feels wrong to me.

All right. Let's get out of here. This is Dan Hansa, signing off. Go Spurs. Game 7. Four. The Quiet Storm, the mailman, the old boss. And Ricky Hollywood, behind the glass.

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