NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - “You’re the GM” returns!

Episode Date: March 17, 2017

A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Chris Wesseling & Gregg Rosenthal – recap all the latest news from around the NFL including the Raiders considering trying to bring Marsha...wn Lynch out of retirement, and the Giants agreeing to a new deal with JPP. Then, by popular demand, the heroes bring back one of their favorite segments…”You’re the GM!” where the heroes act as general managers in the NFL and try to get their own trades through.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast runs the Lil Debbie fan club. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys? Hey, Dan. Happy Friday.
Starting point is 00:00:26 St. Patty's Day. Happy St. Patrick's Day. Who has Irish heritage in this room? I do. I do as well. Very nice. Greg, no. No.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Sid? Yeah, I think I do. Rosenthal sound like a Jewish, I mean an Irish name there? Well, my name's not Irish, but I have heritage. The Walsh and the Cairns are from Dublin. That's in my heritage. There's a Finnegans also. I got this from my mom this morning.
Starting point is 00:00:55 From County Sligo. I've been to County Sligo. there you go humble brag that's a straight break so there you go a lot of irish blood in here and gregg you are you're with us today what do they call it by proxy an irishman by proxy oh yeah well i grew up in a town that was about 95% Irish Catholic so I feel like I am I am iris just by proxy well they never heard they might not feel that way about you but that that's how you feel about yourself a lot of good the entire city out right now out of Drinking green beer, and we're in here discussing football on March 17th.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Makes a lot of sense. And everyone else is discussing college basketball and drinking. We're not drinking and talking about football. Way to be on point. We are connected. Speaking of on point, do we want, I mean, anybody want to talk about, you know, management, the shadowy league figures, they threw a thank you to the podcast of all the NFL. And there was one person conspicuously absent.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I'm going to say it's the person that's only Irish by proxy of Rosenthal. That's right. My wife had plans that night, so I watched our children. It's planned much in advance. We don't need to get into it, but I think it was noticed by a number of people that, you know, the three of us took time to go. We were very thankful to management for throwing the party number one. Let's start right there. Greg, it's on the way home from Greg.
Starting point is 00:02:25 He could have pulled the car over. It was like 6.30. No one was here still. You could have pulled the car for two minutes, walked in and just said, hi, here I am, wave and leave. But it was, nope, got to go right, you know, can't give not a second of time for these co-workers. Can I just read the email that was sent to everyone that's involved in the podcast, both people that are in the studio, people behind the glass like Sydney, Sully, it goes on and on, DeAngel, all the hardworking people here. And the email read, please join us for a podcast team get together, all members of ATN, DDPP, move the sticks and fantasy live welcome time for ATN and move the sticks to make peace funny bit there
Starting point is 00:03:04 that's not happening anytime soon that maybe if that maybe if Greg would have came to the bar would have sounded like that That was Maddie Zickis, talented NFL media contributor. That was a Zikpom? Yeah. He did the voice work as well. Anyway, so Greg, before we move on and get him to the show, an official state. We're still on this?
Starting point is 00:03:43 I mean, I have no regrets. I had to watch my children. There are these two younger people, Mark. They want to, you know, while I was home with them, they're at home. Where is daddy? You know, sometimes you have to put your offspring second. Is daddy ever coming back? When there's an open bar involved.
Starting point is 00:04:05 That would be a very clear time to do that. Koji. Who is my daddy? All right. So that's hanging in the air. By the way, the subject line of that email was NFL podcast team, thank you. Greg said thank you in his own way. Yes, he did.
Starting point is 00:04:25 In a very specific Greg-like way. Or like NFL podcast, F you. That's much closer to the reality. I know how they can. There's one clear way to. Look at me. I'm a parent. Yeah, we get it.
Starting point is 00:04:39 No, they want to thank us. There's one way. Some dollar bills. Wow. Wow. Well, how about this? How about this angle? Greg is, again, positioning himself as NFL networks, Greg Rosenthal, not realizing the truth.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Thank you very much here with NFL.com's Greg Rosenthal. The NFL.com The NFL.com. The NFL.com. The NFL. The NFL.com's Greg Rosenthal. Still one of us. Until it's officially...
Starting point is 00:05:10 I am. This whole room had forgotten all about it until about an hour before. And at that point, it's too late to change moves. My wife had plans. You're Irish today, and you're still with NFL.com. All right. Today's show is a good one.
Starting point is 00:05:24 very excited we got the news of course free agency into the second week now and there's been some moves on the secondary level a bunch of B minus stories to get to but that's solid news I'll be much better than a couple
Starting point is 00:05:39 six weeks from now I like how you equate you give the same grade to underwhelming news as you give to our podcast on a regular basis read between the lines you don't even have to not even between and then
Starting point is 00:05:53 and then Can we get a little timpony drum for this? Yes. The return of one of the all-time favorite segments of the around the NFL podcast. You know what I'm talking about, bitch. You're the GM. It's back.
Starting point is 00:06:15 No Grigbone this year. Oh, no Grig bone. Yeah. If you're a fan of the show, last March we played. We'll get into it. But you're the GM. We're going to do a little role-playing later in the show. But let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Let's get into news. And, Sid, we have something to talk to you about a little bit later as well. But I'm going to holster that for now. Let's do some news. Happy St. Patrick's Day, everybody. Was that another noted Irishman, Dave Damashach? Yeah, the most Irishman I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Let's start in Oakland, where Latavius Murray is not coming back, and we'll get to that in a second. He has a new home, and Adrian Peterson is still out there, but the Raiders haven't shown a lot of interest. Well, maybe they're going to look at somebody else, somebody a little bit off the radar, but hard to forget. The Raiders, according to Ian Rappaport, have looked at Marshawn Lynch as a potential option
Starting point is 00:07:14 to join the team in 2017. Lynch, who spent the 2016 season out of football, retired, didn't show any hints that he wanted to come back and play KGMZ FM in San Francisco first reported this development. Lynch turns 31 in a month. And Wes, is this, I mean, is this the type of fodder that lands on our doorsteps
Starting point is 00:07:37 at March 17th? Should we take this seriously at all? I'm a little bit torn on it. I'm skeptical that it's a good idea, first of all, because last time we saw Marshawn Lynch, he was injuries had way late at him for half the season, and he was outplayed by Thomas Rawls in the other half of the season.
Starting point is 00:07:54 True. If you want an aging running back, why not get one who's hyper-motivated like Adrian Peterson rather than one who is deciding whether he still has the itch to play football like Marshawn Lynch? I'm just here so I won't get fine. But he is, he's from that area. He's from Haifie, right?
Starting point is 00:08:12 He's He's Heifie. Yeah, I think it feels, it has the makings almost of a PR move because he's so Bay Area-based that it just makes sense from a Raiders angle to have that guy in your team if you were still around. But it tells you so much about Adrian Peterson's market on some level. Why are we pulling this guy back into the league? Well, Lynch is mulling the idea, according to Mike Garifolo.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Really? You know, he's in shape. He's getting in shape. He was hanging around. We saw him a decent amount last year, considering he was not in the NFL. He was just kind of hanging out with the Seahawks after the season. He was like on the sidelines and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:08:48 You know, the thing left unsaid so far, the Seahawks still have him have his rights. Right. So would the Raiders really want to give up something to get Marsh on Lynch? Maybe Seattle likes lynching up. They would just let him go for virtually nothing. There is some talk out there that they would be more likely to release him than trade him at this point.
Starting point is 00:09:06 They're not going to, what are you going to get for? If you're going to get like a conditional sixth round pick, it's better than him never playing again. I can't imagine he would fetch much. Maybe this will be an RGN. He is a year younger than Adrian Peterson. And just had the year off. He wasn't like recovery from injury.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Well, he wasn't recovering from injury necessarily. I guess you could make the case. Be fun. I'd love to see this, wouldn't you? They certainly can use an early down back. I just think there's a lot of good backs in the draft, too. It's a strange move. Always a little leery of team signing players for PR reasons
Starting point is 00:09:36 or for regional or geographical. Sex appeal. Yeah. And he is Oakland to the bone. If you remember, the shelved biopic was about his life growing up in Oakland. It was so disastrous that. They hit it the way that Jerry Lewis hid the day the clowns cried movie. It was that type of situation.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I would love to watch that. Wow. Rare that Dan goes with a reference, too old even for Wes. I have a question about biopic. Mark, wasn't there a time in the 80s or 90s where it was always pronounced biopic? I believe you're right. Really? All of a sudden, it's like when gutsy turned into gutty.
Starting point is 00:10:13 When did this happen? Well, the language in general is floating away. I think biopic is better, though. than biopic. I much prefer biopic. The day the clown cried is in... We're going to break into that
Starting point is 00:10:25 later in the show. Unreleased 1972 American drama film directed by and starring Jerry Lewis. How did that get on your radar? Gary Lewis is a comedian. Infamous film, Holocaust film where he played a clown.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Sounds a terrible idea. Well, exactly. Now, I'm putting Marshawn Lynch's movie a little bit ahead of that. But they're equally hidden away from society is what I'm saying. Along with the Joe Flacco plays Johnny Unitas
Starting point is 00:10:48 biopiopiose. I want to see that thing float to the surface. In other Raiders news, Jared Cook finds a home. Cook who really bargained himself for him and his agent out of a perfect spot in Green Bay, ended up on the street when Green Bay went and got Marty Bennett instead. Well, he lands on his feet. He signs a $12.2 million deal, according to Rapsheet, with the Raiders. The Raiders later confirmed the deal.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Cook had also drawn an interest from the Seahawks and the Vikings, but he decides to go to Oakland. He's going to turn 30 next month, Mark Sessler, and this was definitely on my radar that he might have really blown a golden opportunity to make his career really get his career set up for a nice back-end run. But landing with Derek Carr, that's a nice spot too.
Starting point is 00:11:36 It is. He's on my radar for the fact that he's already talking about trying to pay Amari Cooper for the number 89 jersey. Has anyone really care or even know what number? Jared Cook is please number one that is kind of tiresome in general that's a trope of the off season too like oh I'll pony up what it takes to get the dirty you know come back to it slow down the number two thing is I mean it's another terrible day for our ill-fated making the leap series clive walford was last year's high-flying making the leap guy and they you know what does it say
Starting point is 00:12:06 about him when you're going out and says he's too slow yep he's flying out of relevance is what's happening now these agents that blow it for their contracts it's like if a player does that poorly they get ripped for it and maybe they do by other agents not a much better deal than he got last year he there's a lot of incentives they have not put out the deal i suspect that the base salary even if he got every incentive he's getting less money than the packers offered him per year and i suspect there's a ton of incentives he's getting significantly less for a place that he probably would have rather not have played the guy cost him money with an amateurish move what did it was he went to the media and leaked this whole thing that they've broken off negotiations.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And there was a report that went out there last Friday. Cook and the Packers have broken off negotiations. So they leaked that. The Packers saw that. Ted Thompson saw that. This reporting's in Milwaukee Journal. Ted Thompson saw that and was basically just screw these amateurs, called up Martellus Bennett, and had a deal done in 30 minutes, and cost Jared Cook millions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Ted Thomas don't play like that. You don't play that game with him. So he doesn't usually, he's not that active this time of year. He wasn't going to get involved with games like that. But it could have been a lot worse. He could have been in Minnesota. He could have gotten way less money than even this. Nice team.
Starting point is 00:13:24 All things considered. Good landing spot. You've really pissed off Ted Thompson when you're making him get active in free agency. In other former Raiders news, Latavius Murray has a new home. It is Minnesota with the Vikings. The team announced Wednesday night that they have signed the running back who rush for almost 800 yards and a career high 12 touchdowns on 195 carries last season in Oakland. It's a three-year deal worth $15 million, according to Rapsheet.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And that led officially to the end of Adrian Peterson's incredible career in Minnesota. The team later said that Peterson will not be back in Minnesota. Wes, your thoughts on the idea of Latavius Murray 128 replacing another 28. Adrian Peterson. Going from Adrian Peterson to the destitute man's Adrian Peterson is more depressing than going from Jay Cutler to Mike Glennon. It's like when the band sticks is trying to get together and you can get the whole band except the lead singer.
Starting point is 00:14:28 That's what you're doing when you're replacing Adrian Peterson. Sticks? Yeah. Couldn't you use any band there? You could, any band. Why not? Of course you go sticks. I would have went Journey or like a more prominent lead singer for the band.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Is it Getty Lee Lee? I don't know. No, isn't that Rush? Yeah, you're right. A lot of people believe that... A lot of people believe that Paul McCartney died in the late 60s, so you could go Beatles. If you subscribe to that theory.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Our pop culture references are inching up decade by decade. I say the Beatles are a little more relevant than sticks and journey. Yeah. Just a tad more relevant. Paul McCartney, you know, still in the mix. So you have a lot to explain... Not according to some theories. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:08 But there's a lot of holes in those theories, including, you know, all of the millions of sites... and recordings he's made in the last... Not according to some of the theories, Craig. Dennis DeYoung is the lead singer of Sticks. Oh, yes. Mr. Roboto, remember that song? This Latavius Murray move, by the way, very curious.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Very curious. It's a great draft for running backs. Latavius Murray, to me, is not an exciting starting running back. He's exactly the type of running back that I think the Raiders smartly believed. Let's upgrade. Like, he was fine for us. We've got a couple other young guys. but let's find someone in the draft that's a little more exciting
Starting point is 00:15:44 than our sixth round pick from four years ago that worked out pretty well. I mean, very well for a sixth round pick, but, you know, it's kind of like a C-minus starting running back. You don't need to spend the money on that. Really excited about? The 2017 Minnesota Vikings. Well, I think it's safe to say we're not cycling back
Starting point is 00:16:02 around to Minnesota for team of ATL. Most likely, no, would be my guess. It's not happening. That was their high point. The Giants. I know, baby. Moving on, the New York Giants are doing some business. They are expected to hop on the Gino coaster.
Starting point is 00:16:17 What are we doing, Giants? According to the NFL Network Inside Ian Rappaport, the Giants are expected to sign Gino on Monday after he undergoes a physical. He will likely be brought in as training camp competition. Gino after four, you know, ultimately forgettable years or maybe unforgettable years with the New York.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Jets is coming off a torn ACL. He's 26 years old. Greg, a longtime favorite of yours, another making the lead candidate, which is outrageous. But now he did finish off that 2014 season strong. Oh, my God. Look good.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Still. Let it go, man. So now he has a chance. We haven't seen him since then. He has a chance to be Eli's backup, which may not be a great prize to win that job because Eli's never missed a game in his life. Well, he's coming off a torn ACL,
Starting point is 00:17:07 so I think it's just good for him to land a good backup. up job at this point it's not a bad spot for him and wouldn't it be a jetsy you know you got admit wouldn't it be a jetsy thing if gino smith started you know eli got hurt or something and gino actually looks kind of good with the new york giants you're you're glossing over the part where gino smith is an awful quarterback we're still here we never got past this great you still believe in it like there are a lot of things i fear i don't i don't believe he's a great i don't believe he's a great quarterback. I think what he showed in his first couple years, especially
Starting point is 00:17:44 those last handful of starts, proved he is as good, if not better, than a lot of backups in the league. And this is him as a young quarterback. I think he's a good pickup as a back. There were whispers that he was going to go to Cleveland potentially. Nothing in this entire offseason brought me more peace and calm than the fact that he will not, and is not.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Gino-Smith Rock Osweiler. A Gino-Smith-Brock-Osweiler competition is Talk about an apocalyptic scenario. Isn't part of being a good backup quarterback not being such a irritating personality that you're like nails on a chalkboard to your whole locker room? Right. I mean that if all of that is true, obviously that's like the biggest red flag with Gino. But there's a lot of quarterbacks I suspect that are out there.
Starting point is 00:18:28 You don't believe those theories either. No, that are jerks that people don't like and none of us know. And I think Gino's probably taken a disproportionate amount of criticism. You know, there's a good news from them. Mnish Mehta gets to drop a few more bombs over at the New York Daily News on Gino Smith's body. Right. I mean, if you thought Gino was unprofessional, read those columns. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Whoa. Ryan Costello gets into it with Mnich. Now, Greg coming after. I'm not getting it. I like Mnich, but it's a little personal with him and Gina. It's a little much. There was a Mo Wilkerson column of my Costello references. He's a beat writer for the New York Post.
Starting point is 00:19:06 after Mnich drops the Gino bomb, he writes another column, eviscerating Mo Wilkerson for looking fat at the Temple Pro Day, which sparked a little... I rest my case. A lot of fun, a lot of fun. Moving on. Oh, JPP.
Starting point is 00:19:24 He's got a new deal with the Giants. How about that? He did it. The guy freaking blew his handoff with fireworks and lived to tell the tale as an NFL player. Live, period. JPP, this according to Rapture again on Friday, they've agreed to terms
Starting point is 00:19:41 with their star pass rusher on a four-year contract financial terms related to the deal are still being finalized. But Mark, Pierre Paul, showed last year that he still had something in the tank before he went down with that sports hernia injury. Still just 28 years old, missing fingers, but still can get to a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Is he going to be the same guy he was before the injury? We don't know, but the Giants are willing to invest find out. They must think that potential is very real. It's funny that last offseason when we played that, you know, you're the GM game, a lot of Jets talk centered around how they had almost in excess of riches along their defensive line. And really, it's the strength of the Giants right now. You've got JPP, you've got JPP, you've got Snacks Harrison, you've got Olivier Vernon. Great, great, what's this? We've got news on the terms.
Starting point is 00:20:30 We've got the numbers on it. Breaking news. Breaking news. Listeners love terms of contracts. Read them off, Wes. JPP signed a four-year contract. We're 62 million base, up to 66 million with 40 million guaranteed. Hey. Good for him.
Starting point is 00:20:48 That is definitely the rap sheet. The most guaranteed money for a man, 7-8-ever. I think they need to have, their defense has to be the strength of that team. If we're going to get the same version of Eli Manning we got for some long stretch last year. That's an awesome tree. of starting defensive linemen still in their primes.
Starting point is 00:21:05 They're making a lot of money, but whatever. Like, they have kind of rebuilt that defensive line dominance they had during their championship run. And I think he was as good last year, really. He had that one year, what was it, 2011 when he was just insane. But other than that, last season was right there with any of his pre-fireworks accident years, if not better. Dan, were you impressed with how Wes and I handled that breaking news strip right there? A little sloppy, but, you know, I think you also, Wes did a great job. digging it out and then there was a little bit of hesitation it wasn't smooth but it was
Starting point is 00:21:36 effective west handled it very well i botched it almost entirely look this is not our normal rule we just that's true we need more reps absolutely it's a it's a reps situation um all right meanwhile on the throne of sleaze Oh no I don't hear this one We're up to be quick We come in peace They seem friendly
Starting point is 00:22:04 I say we trust them How great for our planet It's so stupid How great for our planet What is happening there exactly The aliens are arriving So the aliens arrive. Another thing Greg has no belief in.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yes. They get on their speaker system. And that puts me way out of the norm. They get on their speaker system. They let the people of Foxborough know we're here not as a threat. Sure. To work with you, to learn with you, to create a better universe. Everyone down on the ground takes them at their word and then they just fry them all.
Starting point is 00:22:48 They gain the trust of the people of New England and then they make New England go away. Machiavallian. Machiavellian. It's like a Dan Hanses fever drug, essentially. I'm thankful they got the fifth Super Bowl title before the aliens arrived. Well, that might be the only thing that survives the attack. Just molten lava of silver from the Lombardi trophies. Anyway, I haven't gotten to play that in a while because the Patriots only great things happen to them.
Starting point is 00:23:13 But the New Orleans Saints spent Thursday courting restricted free agent Malcolm Butler. The gathering came and went without a deal for the Pat's cornerback. but New Orleans coach, Sean Payton made it clear Friday. He was impressed with a 27-year-old. Peyton said he's a sharp, sharp kid. Rapsheet reported Thursday at the meeting went, quote, very well, leaving both sides, quote, motivated to get a deal done for Butler, who was tagged by New England with the first round tender.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Greg, you know, I can't get on New England. They're doing everything right this off season. But this is the one thing where you could fairly question how they're handing with this, given how great Butler has been. and the fact that, you know, he's a hero. And he's young and effective. I want to see how it ends because the whole process confuses me. The reporting around it is that, okay, like it's moving in that direction,
Starting point is 00:24:04 but it's a long process and it's complicated. And I hear that and I'm thinking, does that just mean the Patriots are going to sign him to a contract that the Saints sort of negotiate for him? Like, or what's so complicated? What are they getting, you know, it's been hanging out there for. a while. And the longer it hangs out there, the more I think maybe it doesn't happen. A bigger question, what happens to the Malcolm Butler biopic? Suddenly, it ends with him going to the Saints. I mean, it's a strange movie. What about the Malcolm Butler biopic? That's a totally
Starting point is 00:24:35 different deal. That seems promising. Dan, you asked yesterday in the newsroom why the Patriots prefer Stefan Gilmore to Malcolm Butler. And I think anytime you can't understand the Patriots move, you have to kind of put yourself in Belichick's mind, which is a weird. place to be, but he looked back over the past couple of years, Malcolm Butler has played great, but what do the Patriots do when they face a dominant X receiver? They play Logan Ryan on him with the safety over the top, and Malcolm Butler can cover your Antonio Browns and T.Y. Hilton's, but he's not covering Julio Jones or A.J. Green or any of those guys. So if you're Belichick, I'm guessing he thinks Stefan Gilmore can cover those
Starting point is 00:25:15 guys and allow me to get more creative or not allocate as many resources to that situation. Well, Butler's a smaller cornerback, and that's sort of what's charming about him is he plays so physical and he doesn't care about his size. They clearly believe Stefan Gilmore is a more talented, complete cornerback because they never offered, by, according to the reports, a contract to Butler anywhere near what Gilmore got because Butler would have taken it. So Butler's kind of, you know, you can hardly blame him for, like, pride is wounded.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I find myself. I'm amazed that he's, like, trying to convince himself to stay in New Orleans. Like, the reports are like, he wanted to go and see if New Orleans was actually comfortable because he was thinking maybe I'll just sign the restricted tender and play one more year in New England. I cannot help be so thoroughly exhausted and fed up with the Patriots in the middle of March. They're keeping us busy. They're in the middle of news. know what you're saying i am so tired of this team do you want to west you were curious what's
Starting point is 00:26:21 going on and uh what what aren't you tired of many things but that is really really very high on my list what did i was just i just i just want to let you know you were saying you know it's weird what's going on in bill belichick's mind yeah all right here's here's i'm ready for live looking Pose. Bon Jovi. Seven rings. One. Four to win by any means necessary. Seems accurate.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Thanks for that glimpse. All right. Let's do a little. Oh, one last thing. You've got to hurt Linda Holiday. She didn't get in there. You know, a longtime girlfriend. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:10 One last thing. It's married to football. One last thing. I think we've brought. brought it up earlier this week, and the winners and losers first week of free agency piece that Greg wrote on NFL.com, you had some harsh words about John Lynch. No winners and, oh, yeah, the best and worst contracts. Best and worst contracts. Excuse me. You had, you know, you could say harsh things to say about
Starting point is 00:27:33 John Lynch, about maybe handing out too much money and being a little willy-nilly in his first run through free agency. I don't think it was unfair criticism by Greg. But, you know, This is a good thing. Your profile is high enough where this got put on the radar of the very man that you were criticizing San Francisco 49ers general manager, John Lynch. Let's listen to where was this, Sid. Where was this interview? KNBR.
Starting point is 00:27:59 KNBR and San Francisco addressed the whole thing. Let's hear it. Yeah, I want to talk to you, John, about this part of the deal. Now you're in the public eye as a GM and now your decisions get analyzed by the pundits. As Jim Harbaugh used to call him, the scribes and the pundits. Well, analyzed and scrutinized. Right. So how's the alligator skin when the NFL.com this week calls two of your contracts,
Starting point is 00:28:22 two of the worst free agent contracts of the 2017 season? NFL.com says Kyle Ushack and Malcolm Smith were dramatically overpaid. The agents smelled blood in the water and knocked John Lynch around the negotiating table. Uh-oh. How's the alligator skin? Are you now filled with a rage and you want to take this guy out? Yeah, I can see John reaching for his helmet, putting it back on. Taking a run.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Yeah, that's the first I heard of that. So thank you. It makes my St. Patty's Day great. Oh, no. He went on to defend the moves and said that there were other teams willing to pay more money for those players. But people are excited about the new culture in San Francisco. Greg, your thoughts about that, going onto John Lynch's radar, and do you have any concerns about that? No concerns.
Starting point is 00:29:07 You know, his answer said it all. He's been through this before as a pro. He's not going to let little criticism. bother him? That's what he says in public, but you are definitely on John Lynch's radar. I mean, I'm more concerned with Mark, who, you know, when we first listened to this,
Starting point is 00:29:22 made an audible, oh, sound, feeling bad for John Lynch, as if he was some little victimized flower that's going to wilt. Well, he openly acknowledged that his St. Patrick's Day, you know, you're not Irish, you don't care, but he probably has some Irish blood in him. His St. Patrick's Day has been totally side-swiped. Greg's skipping company parties,
Starting point is 00:29:43 He doesn't care about the people he works with. He's taking new time, you know, first year GMs out one by one. You know, at one point do the feelings kick in? Do we care about other people at all? That's the question. Greg? This is part of the, you know, the business we're in. I mean, unless you're just going to be down, you know, down the middle Sessler,
Starting point is 00:30:01 you've got to take some stands. Well, now you're taking shots of people that you work with, again. It's one of those shows where the gloves are off between Sessler and Rosenthal. I love every minute of it. Always. I don't find one of the bullet. points of my career here to be attacking and destroying people. I know, I know John Lynch is, he would not be destroyed by that.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I'm just a little, I'm a little thingy flicks way. I'm nothing compared to these 49ers jernos grilling Jed York and their coaches. And like that's, that's part of the. They're a rough pack. That is, that's fair. I have a couple of thoughts. First of all, K&BR, come back to us. I don't like when, because we worked for the shield, this idea that we don't even have
Starting point is 00:30:43 names. It's like, oh, the NFL said this. It's like, no, put some respect on the guy's name. It's Greg Rosenthal. If you're going to use his lines. NFL networks, Greg Rosent. Yeah. If you're going to use his lines and you're going to tee up Lynch to try to bury Greg,
Starting point is 00:30:56 at least put the guy's name in the conversation. So, you know, come back to us. Well, you are. And secondly, Greg, and this is the only question I have from a journal angle. Would you have written that the same way if you knew John Lynch was going to write it? Read it. Yeah. Good question.
Starting point is 00:31:09 The knocking around the negotiating table. That did, you know, cause me. pause at the second, but I thought it was tasty. Tasty? Yeah, I think I would. All right, good. Okay. 8 o'clock delight time.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Ah, yes. Wes will start with Connor Barwin, who lands with the Rams. And who had the breaking news on it? We had this news before anyone because Spice rack texted me and said, hey, look, Connor Barwin's about to sign with the Rams. Spicy! And Wade Phillips thinks he's a great human being.
Starting point is 00:31:43 that's interesting but guess what still doesn't still doesn't get melvin gordon three more yards and it also doesn't get spice rack back on the show well i think so breaking news should not yet spice rack get back on the show he's plugged in just saying no one decided to pull him into this conversation no actions were taken all right we'll have to have a committee meeting to talk about this because now there's mixed feelings guys breaking news brandon car signs a four-year deal with the ravens uh the former cowboys player uh this is a good football player says ozy newsom We got better today. Do you believe that, Greg?
Starting point is 00:32:15 I do, because they needed depth there, and you're looking at the secondary, and they've now added Tony Jefferson. You got Weddle, you got Jimmy Smith. It's coming together. The Jets have solved their problems with a cornerback. Morris Claiborne, the former first round pick of the Cowboys, has signed with a team for a one-year deal worth more than $5 million, according to Rap Sheep.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Wes, a former sixth overall pick, that type of talent. at this stage. What a move, what a coup by Mike McCagher. I think it's cool that you went from a cornerback who played at 235 pounds to a cornerback who plays six games a year. Okay. Total patch. That's one way to look at it. I think it was a gangbusters move to borrow a checkism.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Don Terry Post signed somewhere, Greg, fill in the gaps. Atlanta Falcons like this as a nice risk reward move. One-year deal, they need help on the defensive line. Thomas Dimitraf said we're kind of all set. We don't have any huge pressing needs. I don't know. That defensive line's not that good. Poe could help him out.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Josh McCown also visiting the Jets. He said initially at the onset of Free Agency five or six teams are interested in it. I can't even keep track. Maybe the Jets are one of them. Maybe we don't know. But he would be a nice tasty in the 2 and 14 scam for Sam where he's the starter. We get a whole offseason and summer of, oh, Josh McCown, man. He's, you know, he might not be the best play.
Starting point is 00:33:41 player in the league, but he's a great leader. He's going to teach those guys, and he'll play some good foot out for the year, week three. Probably what would happen. History tells us that he's excellent in helping teams set up for the number one pick. Poor guy. Get Josh McKeown of these terrible teams. And finally, ESPN has hired Rex Ryan, according to reports. He signed a multi-year contract to appear on Sunday NFL countdown.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Wes, where does this rank on the most predictable things ever? It's like right behind Rex Burkhead signing with the Patriots. That's what's happening in the news. Josh McCown, by the way, the last three years, two wins in his starts, 20 losses. At his age, life is literally too short to waste away on a 1-15 team. But that's what he's been doing his whole life. He likes it. Go find a winner.
Starting point is 00:34:33 He likes to play, get playing time, and lose constantly. That's his thing. That's his angle. That's his corner. We all have to have an angle. Could anything pull you back onto the Jets train this year? Oh, I'm on the Jets train. Well, you're hoping that the train goes right off the tracks into total darkness.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Again, there's a vast difference between you and I, Mark. In many ways. In many, many ways. Yes, I am not off my team's train. I am just taking a macro viewpoint. I'm taking my lumps this year, and I just want the organization to put themselves in a better position for 2018 and beyond. You can frame it any way you wish. I'm just being honest.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I'm not saying, oh, I don't even care anymore. That's the mark angle. I don't care. I never think about the Browns. That's all BS, and we know it. I think about the Jets a lot. Well, I think it's fair to say that. Think a big picture.
Starting point is 00:35:21 When the Browns come into my mind, I actively work to not think about it. I actually work to have that memory, whatever I'm thinking about, stop, and think about something else, anything else. It explains a lot. All right. Before we get into you're the GM, Sid, I just, we need to one last, one. One last bit of breaking news. And this was, this landed like a hammer on the news desk this morning. The great Sidney Carlson, new money, la Cid, not going to Disneyland this weekend.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Rather, Disneyland's chief competitor, Six Flags Magic Mountain. Oh, Marone, what how, you can't do this, Sid. Well, first of all, let's take that knife out of your back, Mickey. Let's slow down on the street. He's bleeding. Hey, why don't you do that to me, Sid? I do not in any way. Where's Sydney, everybody?
Starting point is 00:36:18 I do not in any way view Six Flags as a competitor. Said Judas? No, I mean, please. Sid, where are you? Disney is disgustingly good at making money, and I have given them more than I cared to admit. But I think like any great relationship, you know, You've got to be free to like, hang out with other friends from time to time.
Starting point is 00:36:42 You're seeing other people. I'm not seeing other people. I'm just hanging out with friends. Or Mickey could look at it like she's growing up. Like, hey, I'm kind of the fun. Like, we're going to go out. We're going to have a nice clean time. And then there's those renegades with a leather jacket and maybe a couple pops.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Six Flags comes along. Let's have some adult fun. Oh, that's so sad. Remember when Christopher Robin got too old to be? play with Winnie the Pooh? This turned took a really sad turn. Hey, Sid, it's me, Mickey. I've been looking all over for you.
Starting point is 00:37:18 My heart is breaking, Dan. Don't bring Nikki in this. Get a little cash in your pocket, and this was what happens. Wow. You changed. Breaking news. Cindy dating around. Breaks off an exclusive relationship with Disney.
Starting point is 00:37:31 With a fictional mouse. Moving on from the mouse to the woodpecker, I think. I think that's six. I don't know. Looney Tunes. Yeah, Looney Tunes is actually, they're in bed with Looney Tunes, I believe. If we're going to keep on this. And someone else apparently is a comparison.
Starting point is 00:37:45 It's like maybe like the bad boy, but we'll go back. You know, we'll go back. This is your bad boy face? Yeah, I suppose that's what it would have to be. Wow. Because the people, there's a like, there's a hierarchy of the happiness. And the people who work at Disneyland are distinctly more happy than the people who work at Six Flags.
Starting point is 00:38:02 More of like an Adventureland feel at Six Flags. They're just kind of punching the clock. Yeah. This is, this counts as Sidney's bad boy phase. A woman that pines for Kirk Cousins, you know, it's a wholesome girl, Sydney. That's, we love Sydney. So Six Flags is your walk on the dark side. I like this.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Noana and Elsa had Six Flags. I'll just say that. Yeesh. Yeesh. Big news, big news. All right. Now, it's time. Cindy, you cannot let the people of Disney know that this happened.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Oh, I don't plan to. Okay. It is time now to bring it. back you're the GM and this is a game we we we did it for the first time last March and we figured now with free agency really died down and teams are now maybe starting to look more toward the draft and and what pieces where there are still holes as we start to head towards before you know it OTAs in about a month so is it a month or is it just work out is it that's all the same whatever teams are going to start working out next month it's crazy
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah, it works. But here we go. They got to start figuring out who's going to be on their team in 2017. Correct. So the GMs. Brock Osweiler, first-string quarterback. They all talk to each other. They all talk to each other.
Starting point is 00:39:21 So we're going to pull back the curtain and let you know what it's like. And Mark, why don't you get us going? You can tell us who you are portraying, what GM, who you are calling, and let us know which one of us will portray that other GM. and then we'll let the listeners know what that conversation entailed. All right. I will be playing Brown's executive VP of Operations Sashi Brown. Listeners should know a year ago at this point,
Starting point is 00:39:51 Sashi turned down a deal that would have gotten him Matt Ryan. Oh, yeah, and this very game out. Over some haggling between a first or a third round pick. And in retrospect... Good thing you weren't right in a column about him. In retrospect, She might have just wanted to go get that quarterback back then. So, Mark, as Sashi turned down Matt Ryan to move down around,
Starting point is 00:40:12 now you have a chance to redeem yourself and Sashi in a big spot. I am calling up the Patriots for one very obvious reason. We're not going to let this happen again. So let's dial up the Massachusetts area code and speak to Bill Belichick as played by Dan Hinses. Okay. Bill Belichick's office, please hold. This portion of your podcast has been censored by a shadowy league figure.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Our apologies. This portion of your podcast has been censored by a shadowy league figure. Our apologies. No, it's Bill. Bill, Sashi Brown, right out here in Cleveland. You know, your old stomping grounds. You got to be kidding me. We've done some deals before.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Yep. I got you Barquevius Mingo, helped bring you a Super Bowl title. That went very well. Are you being a smart ass? Hold on a second, please. Sushi. Sushi. Linda?
Starting point is 00:41:18 Sushi. Sorry about that, Bill. A lot going on here. Don't ringing all the time. Listen, I think it's out there. The Browns need a quarterback. I think it's the least you could do for us is to listen to my offer. I will listen.
Starting point is 00:41:33 This is it. I'm listening. I got to get on seven rings in a few minutes. But you got me for now, Sashi. Let's start. We're going to go with Sashi, please. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:44 We're going to start right here. I'm going to give you our highest number two pick this year. And on top of it, you know, you've got one of the great line coaches in the NFL, Dante Scarnacchio. I'm going to help bolster your offensive line with a couple of players here. I'm going to read them off. You taking notes? I'll do what I want. Second round pick plus left tackle Joe Thomas,
Starting point is 00:42:08 left guard Joel Betonio, offensive lineman Spencer Durango, center J.C. Tredder, lineman Zach Sterrup, lineman Marcus Martin, offensive lineman Austin Ryder, interior offensive lineman Gabe Eichard, guard John Greco,
Starting point is 00:42:23 guard Kevin Zitler, who we just signed, ex-first round center Cam Irvin, and tackle Austin Pazer. As a bonus, Wolfram, we'll throw in Sean Coleman. bolstering your offensive line. You get a second round pick. You give us Jimmy G. We'll pay for the plane ticket.
Starting point is 00:42:40 And the 18 plane tickets that the people I'm sending your way. Question. Hold on a second, please. Sushi. Sushi. Sushi. We're back. What's going on in Cleveland?
Starting point is 00:42:56 You seem a little distracted. Maybe that explains that awful trade offer. I have one of the best offensive lines in the AFC with Skarnacki, Skarnikia, I call him Dante. I don't need more offensive linemen. This makes no sense. You're bad at your job, Sashi. And I think you should take what I say to heart
Starting point is 00:43:17 because I'm quite respected in these circles and you're completely overmatched. It feels that way at this point in the conversation. Can we get Jimmy G. away from you for anything. This has to happen. You understand the Browns. What's your starting point?
Starting point is 00:43:35 I do understand the Browns. The Browns fired me. The Browns embarrassed me. And I will never, ever do anything to help them. Ever! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. It really took a turn for the worst. That did not go well.
Starting point is 00:43:49 A terrible, a terrible scenario. It's a bad situation. It's a bad situation. I thought Austin Pastor would have put it over the top, but that's what I was thinking. There's a lot of lots. lineman to deal with there what would he to do with that i kind of yeah i wonder i wonder if sasha was on any mind expanding agents before he made that phone call it feels possible all right west you're up i am titans gm john robinson and gregg is seahawks gm john schneider
Starting point is 00:44:18 Oh, exciting. Hello! Snides, Robbie here. Put your shirt on for this one. I'm excited. Everything in Seattle's exciting. Look, word around the campfire here in GM circles is that you are willing to trade that ne'er-do-well,
Starting point is 00:44:46 Richard Sherman, who spends most of his time undermining the coaching staff, threatening to ruin reporters' careers and yelling at his teammates. If the price is right, I hear he's available. Look, we've got two first-round picks. I'm willing to give you the 18 and a conditional fourth-round pick in 2018
Starting point is 00:45:05 for Richard Sherman. We need a shutdown corner here in Tennessee. Why are you trying to downplay our guy as you're trying to trade for him? Why are you trying to trade for him if you think he's... Everybody knows why you have him on the market. He's a paining your ass right now. What are the conditions?
Starting point is 00:45:26 You just say conditional fourth round pick. I want to know these conditions. If we go to the playoffs, it moves up to a third. Oh, that's interesting. There's just like a peanut gallery on the line. Nice, nice move. I like it. I'm going to need more for that.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Because I got to tell you, Richard Sherman's still a great cornerback. He's a big personality. That's kind of how we roll. I got to admit, I get a little bored around here sometimes. I kind of like seeing Pete go after these players, big personalities. Like, that's what we do. We're a zoo. The number 18 pick for a top 10 pick, top 20 pick in the draft?
Starting point is 00:46:09 No. Top 10 cornerback? I'm going to upgrade the conditional to a conditional third renter that can go to a second. if we make the playoffs. And look, you might think we're a cute little operation down here in Nashville. We're a team on the rise. You better respect us. We're going to the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Is this a threat, John, Rob? Is this a threat? From one of John to another. I've been in this business for a while. You just kind of came in as a GM. You see those pictures of me in the locker room with the shirt off? You only do that when you win titles. I'm keeping Richard Sherman.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Forget this. Wow. I thought that had a chance that happened. It's the last time I called Greg in a fake conversation. Greg is surprisingly hard to negotiate with on a trade. Richard Sherman, worth a little more than that. What was the trade again? I got a little caught up in that.
Starting point is 00:47:03 First round number 18 overall pick and a third rounder that can get up to a second round. I would have taken that. What, a 28, 29-year-old corner? Making 11 million a year? It's a good deal. Honestly, you don't think that's a tasty deal at all? I feel like you guys could have hammered it out. I would have taken that deal.
Starting point is 00:47:19 He told me to respect him. It was kind of similar to what happened last year when I listened to this podcast again. Feelings got in the way. He told me to respect him. I was kind of leaning towards taking it and then thought, who's this John Robinson guy? You know, he only gets hired because, you know, ownership can't find anyone better. That was based on Mike Lombardi said on the ringer this week that the Seahawks are willing to trade Richard Sherman. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:47:46 All right. Next up. Wes, this is something you've always wanted to do. He's going to come back into the picture now. You'll be playing Bill Belichick, and you are getting a phone call from none other than Big Mac. It's not even going to answer. Pelichick here.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Bill, I got you. Yeah. here. It's Big Mac. The Mac Man, Mike McCagman. Respect me, please. Who are you? I'm another general manager in your division. I'm employed by the New York Jets.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Your former team. I mean, I was with them for five minutes, literally. Wait a second. Bill, do you really forget that you were the defensive coordinator in 1998, 1997 through 1999? Come back to us, Bill. Off to a good start. I'll ever come back
Starting point is 00:48:43 to you. Literally, please. come back to it. All right. Big Mac here. You know who this is. You know who this is, b***. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:48:57 And I'm being dead series. I know, I know, I know you would never trade Jimmy G. To a, well, I was going to say rival, but you don't view the Jets as a rival. Let's be honest. For 20 years, you've been getting the upper hand on the Jets. And I know that right now, One of the problems, and I think one of the reasons why you have not traded Jimmy G to that bum Sashi.
Starting point is 00:49:22 First of all, he's a total lethario, cannot focus on anything. I heard about the phone call you got where he offered an entire offensive line while he was in the middle of a coitus session. That was weird. The whole league's talking about it. So you don't want to do business with that guy, and I get that. So let me. I'll never talk to Sashi again after that bizarre phone call. I mean, Cleveland's never been in a worse spot than they are right now.
Starting point is 00:49:45 See, we're like bros. We can rap. Big Mac here. Big Mac and the Big B. I only rap on Snapface. All right. So, Bill, and you're going to think this is a joke. But think about your long-term future with the team.
Starting point is 00:50:01 You know Tommy Boy has got another five years. And I want Jimmy G. I want him. I want to swoop in. No one thinks that you would trade him. What's the thing that the Patriots do? They do things people don't expect. Trade me Jimmy G.
Starting point is 00:50:12 And this is what I'll give you. And don't snickered. Take this seriously. you could choose literally any player currently on my roster that's not that's the starting point that's a starting point i've seen your roster you can sexy don't laugh at me yeah let me let me let me try to pry away mat fortay from you um listen i'm talking you know you can get mo wilkerson motivated leonard williams hello you know you can do damage of Leonard williams Darren lee's a great young linebacker i got some skill i got some skill on this on this team
Starting point is 00:50:45 Anyway, so that's just the starting point. Any player, let's make him Leonard Williams. All right, Lenny Williams. The first round pick, 2017, 2018, and a conventional third round pick in 2019 that becomes a first round pick if the Jets reach the conference title game in the next two years.
Starting point is 00:51:07 And you send me your backup quarterback that you don't even plan to play for the next three to five years. First of all, your instincts are correct. I don't see you as a rival. I never have. That hurts my feelings, but go on. But here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:51:22 If I trade Jimmy Garoppolo to you, we view him as a future superstar. That's when I'll start viewing you as a rival. And I have traded Drew Bledsoe with him in my division because I knew he was washed up. Look, we had him here. He's a fine guy. He makes a great wine, but he was done. And I knew it. I wasn't afraid of him.
Starting point is 00:51:40 I am afraid if Jimmy goes there, the Jets. Tom Brady could go down. And all of a sudden, the balance of power shifts in that division to the team that does have a quarterback. It is the most tempting offer I've gotten, certainly more tempting than the one for 17 offensive linemen. It is a very fair offer, and I have much more respect for you as a man and general manager. I will no longer act like you're not even in my division anymore, but I can't take the deal. I can't prop up the Jets as a franchise with an actual quarterback. Bill, and all that I appreciate, but I have to tell you, if I don't get a quarterback, I'm going to get fired.
Starting point is 00:52:22 I need this. Get Big Mac some French fries. Get Big Mac a shake. You wreak of desperation. Big Mac his special sauce. Give him my Jimmy Cheek. Hang up. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Oh, listen. Bell check, tough negotiator. I thought he might take that. That was a good deal. No, we're trying to win Super Bowls, not collect first round. picks. Okay. Next up, Greg.
Starting point is 00:52:48 All right. I'm going to be Tom Coughlin, Jacksonville, Jaguars. The GM's not even making the call out of Jacksonville. Oh, that guy. He's basically Howie Roseman in 2014. And I'm going to call old Steve Kimey. Steve Kime, played by Mark.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Kime bomb? Okay. Kymachine here. Kymry. I'm back. Who's this? This is Tom Coughlin. Your old bow.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Oh, my God. We're just a couple of football guys. I'm back in the league. Why are you making the calls out of your organization? What sort of chaos is unraveling on your team? Give me a break. I'll tell you why. After I start here.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I got old Caldwell. You know, go look at some rookie quarterbacks, buddy. You know, I'll be sure to read the report. you write up special projects called well these guys are crazy over here i came down here these guys think like portals is it like boarders nice quarterback we got to win this game they think they've won some super bowls around here they haven't won five more than five games since 2011 you know how hard that is to do in the nflb that's how it was when i got here before i turned everything around tom coflin tom cofflin doesn't mess around with five and
Starting point is 00:54:11 11, and so I've got a deal for you. I think you're going to want to listen to this. Time after time. Unroll it. Carson Palmer's at the end of the line. Maybe he's thinking about retiring. That's your opinion. He was thinking about retiring.
Starting point is 00:54:25 That's what people said about you. He was thinking about retiring. Larry Fitzgerald was thinking about retiring. You're in a pickle. I just was watching the old NFL network. One of the best guys out there, Chris Wessling, says your window is closed, Kimey. You've had a rough off season.
Starting point is 00:54:40 this Jermaine Gresham contract. It's time to reload. You got some nice young talent. Give away. Trade away. A couple guys at the end of the line. Carson Palmer and Larry Fitzgerald. Short-term solutions.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Here's what I'll do for you. I'll send you back Blake Bordels. Just so you have someone. Oh, my God. I know, I know Bruce. He's great with the big-armed young quarterbacks. I'll send you Blake Bordels. I'll send you Alan Hearns.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Nice young, wide receiver. He's a guy who's going to be around. for a little while and I'll give you a second round pick in this year's draft too. You're trading me two guys who aren't even going to be in the NFL. I can't stand this whole five win
Starting point is 00:55:22 nonsense with Blake Bortles this year. There's no chance we're going to win games. You help me out right now. I'm getting old. I can't wait around. You are old time. Okay. You wreak of desperation. Com machine don't play that. I don't know who this Chris guy is from a football website either.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Are you coming out with a very bizarre argument damn you're going to tell me that you're essentially trading me Alan Hearns and a non-functional quarterback for a Hall of Fame receiver and you don't listen very well to what Bruce Ariens said a few years ago that Carson Palmer can play deep into his 30s maybe even longer you guys think he's done after this season nice try buddy you got to sweet in the pot you're going to give me your biggest problem
Starting point is 00:56:04 that's the trade you're coming up with Blake Bortals then what do I do how do I sell that to the people in Arizona I think your medications, you know, they're kind of colliding. You're going a little soupy over there. This guy, Palmer, you didn't even know if he was going to play anymore in the middle of January. You got to start thinking about the future. All right, I'll tell you what I'll. I'll change it.
Starting point is 00:56:25 You got two more minutes with me. I'll change it up. Change up your Allen's. I'll give you Alan Robinson. I'll bump up that draft pick up to a first round pick. You're leaving me with no quarterback. You're giving me a first round draft pick? giving you a first round pick.
Starting point is 00:56:41 You guys got a lot of young talent there. You're not winning with this Palmer Fitzgerald thing. I got to win. This guy shot Connie. He wants the move to the team to London. Where are you picking this year in the draft? What number are you in? I'm up high.
Starting point is 00:56:53 You should probably know offhand, but if you don't, that leaves me only more concerned. I'm in the top five, baby. You're giving me this year's first round pick. You're giving me Alan Robinson and Blake Bortles. For these two players, deal done, baby.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Wow, we got a deal. Wow. All right. Am I crazy to take that deal? Winnie Sweden, the pot with the first round. This year's first round or Jacksonville picks where. I think they're right up. I think you just had the kind of your life in a big spot.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Big Moffwood just got fired. Took advantage of old Tommy boy. If you believe, if you believe internally, if you're Arizona, you say, I think we maxed out with this roster, get rid of Fitz and Carson who aren't going to be there next year. and now you just, you know, Bortles, it's a project, obviously. Robinson's a number one wide receiver potentially. And you got a first round back and you trust your draft process.
Starting point is 00:57:48 I had a shaky draft last year if I don't. Oh, it was. It was shaky. But you got David Johnson a third round the year before. Like what I did there. What was the second round? Was he a second round? Kime drives a hard bargain.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Wow. Kime did a nice job. Tom is desperate. You know who should get Steve Kime? The Browns had trade all those drafts. assets to get Steve Kime. Well, you know, as someone who supports Sashi Brown, I don't feel I did him any favors with this segment,
Starting point is 00:58:15 but maybe he'll return. I have a quick one before we go around. Greg, you're going to play Chris Greer of the Dolphins. Okay. And I will be Chris Ballard of the Cults. Hello? Hello, I'm Chris Greer? Who's Chris Geer?
Starting point is 00:58:40 Hi, I'm Chris Ballard. Do you want to come over? Hey, Mikey T. Mikey T. Can I go over to Chris Ballard's house? Oh, yeah. He says I don't really do that much around here. I can come over.
Starting point is 00:58:58 I got a cotton candy machine. I love cotton candy. What's your favorite type of frog? What was that? Cults are in fine, fine hands. There's something about that Ballard, man. I don't know. I can't put my finger on it.
Starting point is 00:59:24 All right, one more time around the horn now. All right. Mark, you're up. I am Saints something or other, Mickey Loomis. Dialing up, Ted Thompson is played by Christopher Wesleyan. All right. Thompson here. Three rings, guys.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Mickey Loomis from down in New Orleans. How are your pelicans? I got a lot in my mind. I got a lot going on. I'm trying to juggle two teams here. Have you won a game? since you traded for Boogie Cousins? I don't know our record.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I've got to make a deal. There's a lot of pressure on me. Sean Payton is trying to get Malcolm Butler. He's going to oversell for that. I need, he told me we've got to get this defense, which has been historically awful. I haven't thought about the Saints defense since, I'm not kidding you, 2010. I have not thought about them once.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I've seen your defense and it reflects your thinking. I got too much going on in the mind. New Orleans is a crazy town to try to have a full-time job, and I think you can understand where I'm coming from, Ted. I got to do a deal. Will you listen at least? I'm here for you. I know you don't like off-season maneuvering, but this could be good for you, too.
Starting point is 01:00:40 They're calling you inactive that you just go to sleep in March. Here we go. I'm going to give you running back Mark Ingram. You need a running back. You just lost Eddie Lacey. I'm going to give you New Orleans Pelicans point guard, Drew Holiday, and power forward to Anthony Davis. Four, in return, Clay Matthews,
Starting point is 01:01:01 Packers, Game Day broadcaster, Wayne Laravie. We have a hole there, and the guy knows basketball, too. And offensive perimeter coach, David Ray, I need that guy, too. What do you say? They have light. Teddy, you there. I got to make this happen. Wes actually writing these down.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Yeah, I got a, the Ray guy, come on. Well, I don't, I'm not very active in March usually, so I do have to write this kind of stuff down. You know what? It's a deal. It's a deal. People don't know this about me. I am a huge NBA fan. I'm a big Bucks fan,
Starting point is 01:01:37 and if I compare the Greek freak with Anthony Davis and Drew Holiday, we got a team here in Wisconsin. It's a deal. Clay Matthews. Thank you. Look, have fun with him. He hasn't made a play in two years. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I'm not going to watch a Saints game all season, but they're going to love this Clay Matthews business. I'll go tell Coach Sean Payton, you sure it's a deal. We're good. We're hanging up this stone. I have always had a soft spot for the Milwaukee Bucks all the way back to the Dandridge days, Jack Sykma, Paul McCasky, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:02:07 My day is done. Thank you, buddy. Anthony Davis, now a member of Milwaukee Bucks. I like it. I think the next phone calls from Adam Silver, the NBA commissioner. That's fair. All right. Wow, I can't believe that one.
Starting point is 01:02:26 I know, Thompson, able to help out the buck. All right. Mark, you will be portraying Texan's general manager Rick Smith. And ooh, sassy. And you will be getting a phone call from Broncos General Manager John Elway. General Manager Rick Smith on the line. Rick, it's John Elway. You know. Your worst nightmare.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Yeah, I mean, this is not the call I was hoping for. What's on your mind? I got one thing to say to you. I'm not here to make a trade. If you know what's good for you, you'll stay away from Romo. Let me tell you something. He's damaged goods. He's barely played in two years.
Starting point is 01:03:31 years. He stinks. You know that. He likes golf too much. Jessica Simpson? Can you say distraction? He's holding a fantasy football summer the summer. Gambling much? You don't want that guy. Have you looked at our quarterback roster? You know all about Brock Oswald, the guy we lost. We have someone named Tom Savage who could be our starter if we don't have to go after Romo. You got to be kidding me. We are going to go hard after Romo. Steal the Texas spotlight away from the Cowboys, you pulled this move with Peyton Manning a couple years ago and won a Super Bowl. Why don't we want to just do the same thing down here in Houston? I've been through eight quarterbacks.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I'm running out of time here. What happened to your accent? Great question. I'm a man of many personalities. Please hold. Hold. This portion of your podcast has been censored by a shadowy league figure. Our apologies.
Starting point is 01:04:23 I got to go. But let me just tell you something. I got some Papa John's deals to finish up. this is not a threat but stay away and last comment i'm recording this phone call last thing i got to say when it comes to tony romo this one's for john it's a competitor that guy total bully i think i think that we know what the texans are going to do you know looking to the jettler business It's interesting. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Greg, finish us off. I've got... I've only done one. Oh, I'm sorry, Wes. Go ahead. I am Ram's general manager, Les Sneed. And Mark is Titans' general manager,
Starting point is 01:05:12 John Robinson. Back on the line. Johnny Rob here. Johnny Rob, this is... Johnny Rob, this is... Les Snee. Very smooth. Lester, how you doing?
Starting point is 01:05:31 I'm doing great. Look, I heard everybody's talking about how poorly John Schneider treated you when you made a fair offer for a cornerback. I thought it was very fair. I've got Trimane Johnson here. I will give you Truman. Cowboys. I will give you Trumane Johnson for a bottle of hairspray.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Hold on here. So I got to absorb basically his franchise tag. Is this guy willing to play ball? I'm giving you a lockdown cornerback. I need to know what happens after this season. We'd have to make sure that we get him on a full deal before we do this. I mean, I'll ask you for a can of air spray. Why would you want that?
Starting point is 01:06:15 You don't like this player. He doesn't fit in your system. Is that what you're telling me? Something feels, something stinks here. To be honest with you, my franchise is the only one in the NFL that believes Trumane Johnson is worth 16 million. dollars a year i just want to get my hair right it's it's a compelling deal from a value standpoint uh sure let's do it all right i would ask them to take some of the money back maybe seemed kind of like a no-brainer though i mean a hairspray cash to burn down in tennessee it's cheap
Starting point is 01:06:49 one of your deal all right finally gregg oh this is finally okay i had a couple uh all right let's uh i'll be uh I'll be Bill's general manager, Doug Whaley. And I'm calling Reggie McKenzie, Oakland Raiders, general manager played by Dan. Okay. Who's this? Who are they going to call? You're the Raiders. Okay, got Sugar Bear.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Sugar Bear. The Sugar Bear is here. Sugar Bear in the house? Please hold. This portion of your podcast has been censored by a shadowy league figure. Our apologies. Sugar Bear headquarters. Who's speaking?
Starting point is 01:07:31 Oh, Sugar Bears. It's Doug Whaley. Doug, my old friend from Western New York. Actually, hold on a second. Well, 59 miles of Jacksonville. Driving together between the lines, you and me. Oh, 99 miles. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I'm back. I understand. We're both busy men. I was just checking out Road to World. again to check out this new new story. It's got me... It's got me bothered. Sugar bear is worried. Are you okay?
Starting point is 01:08:03 I promise you. I saw a report E.J. Manuel. You're thinking of a sign in E.J. Manuel. Sugar bear likes him. Reports are out there, but it's not done you, right? No, not done, but Sugar Bear likes him. Sugar Bear thinks he's a good insurance policy. Please don't do it to me.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Please don't do it to me. I love this guy, E.J. Manuel. You know, the coaching staff here, They don't seem to lack him ownership. No one likes him, but this guy, I believe him, just don't do it. Doug. Just don't do it. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Oh. Hold on a second. Okay. We'll check. Nine miles to Jacksonville. Driving together between the lines. You and some good music. Oh, nine, nine and five.
Starting point is 01:08:45 All right. Just please don't do it. I'm not going to, I'll just, I'll get you back. I know that's not how it's normally done in the NFL. I'll get, I'll get you. back. I love this guy, E.J. Manuel. I think if no one signs him until the draft, I can maybe get him back on my roster.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Why is Bill Simmons on the phone? Doug. Sugar bear's at a loss for words right now. Sugar bear looks at E.J. Manuel is a sunken cost for the team out of Western New York. Sugar Bear sees the team out of Western New York is being a problematic situation with E.J. Manuel. Why would you want him back? I'm going to take him.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Johnny Cochran talking to Bill Simmons. I love this guy. This is what Sean said you were going to say when I called you, too. Do you want me to get out of the E.J. manual business? Is that what you're asking? Just leave him alone. Just leave him alone. This is my guy.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Doug, Sugar Bear. I'll get you back, I promise. I don't know what that means, but Sugar Bear has a heart. And I know you seem to be going through some things. Sugar Bear out. No E.J. to Oakland. So bizarre. Wow.
Starting point is 01:10:00 I need to figure out what song that was you were playing Greg. I need to add that to the collection. All right. Oh, Natalie Ambrulia sound a little sick. She's been through some stuff in the last 20 years since we last heard from her. There you go. So now you understand what is going on behind the scenes. Oh, yeah, crystal clear.
Starting point is 01:10:25 the NFL. It's very clear. All right. That's it. Good show, guys. Fun show. We'll be back on Monday with another around the NFL podcast. The train, it just keeps rolling. Monday, Wednesday, probably Friday again. But thank you to everyone for listening. And we got to go. That's it. Right? It's time to go. Can't stay here forever. Got to go. It's a point. You got to go home. It's Friday. You got to get out of here. E.J. Manuel, go home. Western New York's calling for you. This is Dan Hansis. signing off for The Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the boss, and new money behind the glass till Monday.
Starting point is 01:11:23 up in the studio, Dan and Wes and I. We've left Greg downstairs because we didn't want to pile on, but this whole thing with the party didn't show up. I got a note from someone, a female employee who. A female employee. Female employee who was disappointed that Greg would not, even make an appearance of this thing. So I just want to read, I'll leave the name up,
Starting point is 01:11:44 but I want to read what she had to say. Here it goes. Hey Mark, good afternoon. I just wanted to follow up on our chat from last night. I'm still confused and slightly hurt. hurt that Greg simply shrugged off the many workers who toil endlessly to make the NFL's collection of podcasts a positive experience for all. Has he followed up with you at all about why he found it acceptable to dismiss the people
Starting point is 01:12:06 he works with for his own gains? Just wondering if he's debriefed with you at all about his behavior. Has he given a logical reason for his decision-making? I have to be honest, Colin, I feel a little hurt about his response to our invite to gather with people who spend most of the time promoting his work and accomplishments at NFL Network. I know he's at work because I saw him walking by himself toward the huddle, which is our restaurant here. Earlier in the day, he had to walk upstairs on the other side of the patio
Starting point is 01:12:32 because they are still working on the new wall decorations, the one with a variety of NFL football players. I then saw him walking past the giant image of NFL networks Dan Helly, and maybe Greg thinks that our workplace should have made it a massive image of him instead of Dan Helly. But do you think Dan Helly would have just blown off the people who work daily to promote his career at our workplace? I don't think so. I think Dan Helly would show even a third.
Starting point is 01:12:53 thumbnail of respect for his fellow workers, which is more than Greg showed to us last night evening. The bar was also very close to work. He could have stopped by for like five minutes and all of this would have been a different situation. Has Greg said anything to you about his thought process? I know this goes on and on by the way. I know that Sidney was also upset because she wouldn't say anything because she's too nice. She's very nice. I should let you know that Sydney was crying in the women's restroom toward the end of the night. It was very nice of you and Dan and West to show up, but I can't figure out why Greg chose not to. Has he made it clear to you why he didn't want to be a part of the group gathering? It's been on my mind since I raised the issue to you last
Starting point is 01:13:33 night near the front door of the bar. I like to speak my mind, and this is definitely still an issue to me. Just wondering if Greg might have unpacked his decision to ignore us all. It wouldn't have been hard to stop by, even quickly, but instead he has hurt my feelings. I think I have a right to express myself and tell you how I feel, and I hope that Greg will share with you why he's done this. Like, for instance, what do you think he was thinking when he decided to drive right past the bar to go do something else? It wouldn't have been that hard to park his car and walk inside the bar for a minute or two, but he kept driving in his car instead right back to his home, I presume. I'm still thinking about this today and wanted to bring the issue back up with you in case Greg
Starting point is 01:14:12 has made it clear to you or others why he chose to bypass last night's event in order to tend to his own needs and responsibilities. I am somewhat concerned about his choices, but I I'm also still filling in the blanks about what he's done and what it means for me and the rest of our company. Thank you. Let me know if he says anything between now and when you leave work today about this. Very concerning choice of his.
Starting point is 01:14:33 I'll leave the name at the end off. I mean, certainly a long-winded letter, but, you know. She's a young lady in search of answers, and she really wants to know. Has Greg said anything to you, Mark? Has he explained to him? I think we got Greg's complete response earlier in the show. He could care less.
Starting point is 01:14:50 two thousand words there boiled down into one sentence why have you betrayed us that's basically it and gregg refuses to give an answer so we'll let the you know we'll leave it right there this is an iHeart podcast

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