CFB Week 3 Draft Guide: 2027 QB Rankings Changes & Prospects We're Concerned About
00:00Can we take a peek at Tankathon?Let's take a look at Tankathon.Let's take a look good.Yeah, can we do that?The buck's got the number one pick.Let's go, baby.I didn't know that.Why didn't we do a mock trap this episode?
00:10I'm taking Jeremiah Smith.A, Buka.Hope you like the shadows, buddy, because guess what?You're back in.Take a seat.Welcome to the opening bell, the NFL Stock Exchange Show,Trevor Sakemachim of McConnor Rogers.I'm here with you guys for a very fun episode that we're excited to sort of debut here for you guys.
00:40It's the first edition of the NFLSC draft guide.We took a lot of suggestions from you guys over the summer of how you would like for us to cover college football during the season.And there's a lot of really great ideas.And actually, this is the chef's idea.You thought, let's bring it in and let's call it the draft guide.And it's something that we get to revisit weekend and week out.So today we're looking at page one.Of course, we're updating the quarterback rankings because we already got some takes two weeks into the college football season.
01:08But we'll also talk about some prospects.that we or even you guys have been sounding the alarm for.That could be good.That could be bad.We're going to talk about whether it's getting us straight out of bed.Yeah, we're up.We're absolutely up.We're slamming the snooze button or we're unplugging the thing.
01:24We don't really care about it.So a lot to get to here on this show.But Connor, how you do it, my friend?I'm good, man.It's still jarring how quickly you just tossed away a meca buca like that.I didn't toss him away.I didn't toss anything.You know, Jeremiah Smith's going to be.
01:40the one. I don't know. That's true. And the bucks are picking one. So that's, so that's fair.That's a fair take from you. Look at you, Mr. California, back slumming it with our East Coasters,us East Coasters. This is, going from East Coast to West Coast time, it's a wild experience.You people who live on the West Coast at Pacific Time, it's so strange when the games kick offat 10 a.m. I don't know how I could ever get used to it being in East Coast.your my whole life.It is nice that Sunday night football got done at like nine, eight, 30.That's the reward of it all.
02:20And I had the whole rest of my night to plan for a lot of the shows.Like we filmed NFL Pro.I got set up for our NFL SE episode that we did on Monday.So that part of it was definitely nice,but I don't know if I could ever get used to a 10 a.m. kick.It's a nice.gimmick, at least for me.Like, I remember I was there
02:44when the Jets played the Giants in 2015and back then at Bleacher Report, I wasn't,obviously I wasn't on Jets pre and post game.I clearly wasn't even doing NFL, like NFL coverage for BRthat time. I was on a shoot for high school recruiting.That's a whole other story.Like crazy, crazy.Big high school recruiting guy.
03:05Great high school recruiting guy then.But crazy, crazy trip.Yeah, I'll tell that whole story another day.So Sunday was the one day off we had of like the nine-day trip.So you go out for brunch and watch NFL football.That's what you do.And it's like it felt so weird being out eating, drinking in the morning with one o'clock games on because I'm an East Coaster.And I thought it was a really, really cool thing to do.
03:33But would I like it every week?I guess it's just what you know.is what you like.So if you grew up out there, it's what you know.But I couldn't, I wouldn't like that every single week.So I don't know if that's the case because Ante Studden in the chat says,games kick off at 11 for me and it pisses me off.There you go.
03:51Sunday morning is like you like being able to do whatever you got to do.So Nick says mountain time is superiority because NHL and NBA is at 5 p.m.On weekdays.Right.10 a.m. college football, 11 a.m. NFL Sunday. So, you know, I actually think that central time has the best, has the best case for being the best time when it comes to watching sports.Because everything's just an hour earlier, which isn't super inconvenient from, you know, when TV schedules are made for East Coast time.But it's a little bit earlier. So you get a little bit more of your night and you don't have to wait as long for things to start.at the beginning of the day.
04:38So, yeah, I actually think the Central Times probably got the best case.I think it's the winner.Like, I get what Nick's saying there at Mountain Time,but even five would be early for me knowing the Rangers and Knicks are on.Like, the day is just, you're trying to end the day.And you're like, oh, my God, hockey and basketball is on.The sports starting when you're making dinner is the pinnacle of life.That's why Central Time probably.
05:07I think you get more of that with central time.Yeah.That's the central time.All right, folks.All right, folks.Sound off.Sound off with the comments.Sound off in the chat.
05:15What's the best time zone for watching sports?So we want to hear.As we get to our quarterback rankings here.So we're two and at half.Do I count week zero is like a half a week?That's fair.Because only, I mean, my Ava played.Right.
05:32What other quarterback that we're going to talk about today played?I don't know.any of the other ones actually played week zero.But I think your point stands.Yeah, we're two and a half weeks into the college football season.We've already had a decent amount of action for a lot of these quarterbacks.We went through summer scouting, but that was quite a long time ago.We went through summer scouting for quarterbacks.
05:51What was it in June, July?Something like that.June, yeah.It's been a while since we've really, really seriously talked about this quarterback class.So we figured a good way to start the draft guide episode is to open up the magazine to page one.And of course, it's the first position.it's the quarterback position.So Connor and I have updated our quarterback rankings,
06:11which we're going to reveal for you guys right now.We'll read it out for the audio only peoplebecause we're trying to stay conscious of that as well.And then we'll kind of talk aboutwhat we've seen from these guys over the last couple of weeks.So, Jeff, hit the button.Let's see it.Let's reveal the 1 through 10 in the quarterback rankings.
06:26The biggest mover up the board for me was Drew Mestemaker.I had him at 6 and now I have him at number 2.The biggest mover up the board for you was Dariam Menson.You had him at, I believe 10.Now you have him at 7.But Connor, I want you to read your full updated 1 through 10,and then I will do the same.And then we could dive into a couple of these quarterbacks here.
06:47Yeah, so with it being two and a half weeks, as you said, Trev.So for these guys, somewhere around two games,and a lot of them haven't played anyone or had one meaningful game.I didn't get too crazy here.I tried to avoid that.I wasn't going to change the top.You know, and Arch had his biggest.moment yet with that fourth quarter against Ohio State. He stays at number one for me.
07:10CJ Carr, I had at two over summer. He stays there for now. Notre Dame just beat up onrice last week. So what do you take away from that? Dante Moore at number three has not been agood start for Oregon. And Drew Messemaker, who I had at four over the summer, stays at four right now.It's a roller coaster ride in the loss against Tulsa week one. And then obviously exploded on the sceneagainst Oregon and their upset win over Oregon last week.Five, Trinidad Chamblest, same thing over summer as it was for Lenora Sellers at six.Seven, the one guy that's moved the most, Darian Mensa.I still have some questions about physical ability, but I just, I like his accuracy.
07:51I like how he sees things pre-snap.I feel like transferring to Miami is going to bring out, continue to bring out the best in him.So he's put himself on the map.eight, Jaden Mayaba from USC who did play that week zero game and USC is going to be really good this year.Julian Sane at nine and then 10, a guy that's not going to get to play this year is Brendan Sowersby.Who I would imagine some quarterback will probably jump up into his spot with more games played.I know people like Drake Lindsay from Minnesota.It'll be interesting to see if a quarterback kind of jumps in and seeing.
08:25Because you and I actually have the same exact 10 guys just in different order now thatI look at it, except you have Lindsay in there now at 9.I actually miss that and you don't have Soresby.Right, right.Sorstby is kind of a funny case because you're right.He's not playing at all, but will he move up and down the list?Will he become more alluring or less alluring depending on how the quarterback class shakes out?In season, he won't.
08:50He will only move up when teams work him out, but he won't move up for me.No, but you don't understand.Like if the other quarterbacks, like if these guys aren't playing,Well, then all of a sudden, it's like, all right, well, based on stores we'd say,last year, I guess we're just, you know, so he'll be an interesting case to kind of monitor.And it's, I think that it's at least good that you brought him up here at number 10 because we get to have that part of the conversation because he is a part of this quarterback class.I don't know exactly how much he's in this quarterback class, but he is going to be in this consideration here.For me, I still have Archmanning at number one.
09:25Drew Messemaker is, is the player who jumped up the most on my list.I have him at number two.We're obviously going to talk about that Oregon and Oklahoma State game quite a bit.Dante Moore, I have at number three.We both have him have him at number three now.I have Trinidad Chamble's at four, Darian Mensa at five.That order is still the same there for me coming out of summer scouting.Jada Maya, I have at number six, C.J. Carr at seven, Lenora Sellers at eight,
09:48Drake Lindsay at nine.And then I have Julian San at number 10.Really quick.Somebody in the chat said, this is Austin Simmons Erasure, and I'm only 75%.kidding. Austin Simmons, the quarterback for Missouri now. He was at Old Miss. TrinidadChambliss ended up taking his job early last year. And so he really didn't get to see himtoo much. And when he played for Ole Miss, he really did not play very well. But he looks like he'splaying really well for Missouri so far. I have not taken a deep dive into his tape. Connor,
10:19I don't know if you specifically watched Austin Simmons yet. But I have not.Not a deep dive. I've just watched the broadcast games from, you know, like everyone else,working on Saturdays.Yeah.So I have not taken a deep dive in him yet.We will get to his evaluation at some point.But let's start with Archmanning.Let's talk about Archmanning because he's coming off of a big win versus Ohio State.
10:44And it felt like it was quite the roller coaster of a game because, you know, he's got thedrops.Well, the fumble from Relique Brown at the beginning of the game.Then the weird Cam Coleman.play. I would still categorize that as a drop. I don't know if I would like have it as a drop from like apenalizing point like like like old like PFF would. Right. But I think Cam Coleman should catch thatfootball. Because he's Cam Coleman. Yeah. So I kind of think that if anything that's a I thought it was a reallynice, um, Archmanning pass. And a lot of people did not agree on social media. I thought it was an
11:25excellent deep pass from Archmanning. And I thought that Cam Coleman should have caught thatball, but Ryan Wingo dropped the ball as well.And we're halfway or three, three quarters of the way through that game.And it's Archmanning stinks.He's not even going to be a first round pick anymore.Steve Sarkeesian's getting it fired from Texas.What's Texas going to do now?The whole program's in flux.
11:44And then in the span of like a quarter and a half, it goes to this is the best win thatSarks ever had in the program.Archvany is so back, baby.Come back win against Ohio State.Exercise to the demons.He's able to play inconsistently early on and then change things and play really welldown the stretch. I think the truth, as is often the case, is very much in the gray. It's notnecessarily black or white. It's somewhere in the middle. And I thought that Arch had a good game.
12:10I like what I've seen from him when it comes to this newer throwing motion that he's had over thelast two years. But this year, Connor, I will say, I think he's got a little bit more juice in it,even though it's still a little bit of a shortened kind of sidearm motion to it. I think he's got morejuice. I think the deep balls look a little bit better when they're coming out of his hand.So I think that that's the positives. I feel like he's got a good idea of how to read defenses.He goes through full field reads. He still is that athletic player at a good NFL size.I just also think he's still a half second late sometimes. Yeah. I think that he is,even if he reads it right, sometimes he'll sometimes he'll like clutch the ball or not wind up as fast as he wants to.
12:54and I don't know what it is, but he still seems as though he is, I don't know if it's hesitancy or what,but he can be a half step late to seeing things and it still gets him in trouble in college.And it's only really going to get him in trouble in the NFL if he doesn't speed that up and anticipate a little bit better.So that's where I am with Archmanning two games in.I didn't take him from that top spot.That's why everything you said is why when I watched him over summer, I kept saying he just reminds me.college-wise of a bigger Jackson Dart.Like there were so many plays with Dart on college film
13:31where you go, wow, like that was a really nice throwwith touch at all three levels.He could push the ball down the field.He's athletic enough to run.But the translating to the proswritten in red ink, you know, concern was like,okay, is he going to play on time?Can he play constantly on time and in rhythm?
13:53Does he have to see it open and then throw it or can he throw it open?And the beauty of it once again is not only has, do I think Dart has been good in the pros,but that's not really, I don't think my final comp for Arch will be dark because usually I go bybody type over everything and they just don't have the same body type.But for Arch, this is the season to work through that.And that fourth quarter was really his moment to step up when the lights were thebrightest. And I'm with you, Trevor. The problem is, and I feel like you and I have thiscombo every time we talk about the quarterbacks in the draft without directly having this
14:32combo, we're living in a world. We're just evaluating this quarterback class and Arch for what he is.And I think it's become impossible on the outside of this for the world for Arch to be anythingbut a superstar, like a Joe Burrow, Andrew Luck, Trevor Lawrence, number one overall type of pick.If he's not that he's just deemed as this massive disappointment or not a good player.Yeah, I mean.And that's not fair.And it's not the right way to look at this.No, 100%.
15:02And like even Lawrence struggled, right, through the first couple of years of his career.Now I know it didn't start out, but as a prospect, for sure, for sure.He was in a pretty rare tier of quarterback process.But I think that that's a, that's a bringing up Trevor Lawrence's situation and who TrevorLawrence was coming out of Clemson, I think is good when we talk about Arch Manning.because Trevor Lawrence was seen as the,if it doesn't work with him,like just throws quarterback scouting out the window.
15:28Like, what are we doing here?And it still took him a little bit of timeeven when he got to the NFL.Because Trevor Lawrence sort of struggled with,you know, how defenses were rotating post-snapand was a little bit hesitant to get rid of the ball.And we even saw him two years agokind of struggle with those kinds of things.
15:43Now, starting your NFL career off with Urban Meyerand the disaster that that was,uh, obviously not an ideal way to do things.Now he's with Liam Cohen.and my goodness, like I know they were playing the Browns this past week,but Lawrence was spectacular.I mean, the last two months of the regular season last year, he was a wagon.Yeah.
16:01Right.So he is developed into this fantastic player.And I do think that we forget to give these guys a little bit of growth in grace.But it, it, you do also have to judge players for short of what they are because you don'tjust always want to pie in the sky.Yes, he'll eventually be good type of a thing.This is a big year for Arch.I think all that to say, it's very simple to just say that it's a huge year for him.
16:26It was great to see him have that comeback win because I think that if Texas would have lost that game,it's a lot of outside noise.It's a lot of internal pressure.And I don't know how much he would have taken the leap this year.And now with that win and sort of, again, exercising some demons, as he clearly said after the game of just we thought about Ohio State,I thought about Ohio State all the time.Do we really see him play a little bit more fast and free?Do we see him anticipate a little bit better?
16:55He's less hesitant.He's getting rid of the ball a little bit earlierbecause I think that's the main issue that we have here with him.Anything else on Arch?Because I think we should talk about Mestemaker next.I think so too, because he's probably the biggest talking pointof the entire discussion in this quarterback class.Yeah, so Drew Mestemaker, A.
17:12That go tease.It's a very 2003.It's something.Like, I just think of, like, the era of, like, Creed and all those bands.Well, first of all, you can't say Creed like all of those bands because there's only oneCreed.That's always one of the era of music.They're a category of their own.
17:36Domestemaker in this game versus Oregon.Well, actually, I'll talk about the game at Tulsa first to start the season.He was 29 for 49, so less than 60% completion percentage, 241 yards, one touchdown,interceptions and they lost to Tulsa to open up the year. Not ideal. Three yards rushing from him onfive total carries. I mean, he just, there was a lot of hype for Messamaker coming into this year.That was not the way that you wanted to put your best foot board. Now they play againstOregon. He's 26 for 43. So again, right around 60% completion percentage, but 317 yards,two touchdowns, two interceptions that were both of them tipped? Yes. I think, I think both of them were.
18:18Both of them were tipped passes.But he also had 109 rushing yards on six carries and a rushing touchdown there as well.But it was beyond just the stats with Mestamaker.The throws were also bonkers.I mean, some of the throws that he was making constantly attacking over the middle of the fieldwith a big frame and a big arm and NFL caliber type of a player.And even when he would sort of get in trouble and he'd sort of do that,I hate to bring this name up,
18:47but the Josh Allen thing where he's just retreating, retreating,retreating, firing off the back foot,but it just goes straight to the wide receiver's handsin between the safety and the corner or the linebacker.You just go, okay, man, all right, I see that.I certainly see that from you.And after the game, Mestemaker talked about how in week one,he played with a lot of pressure.
19:08I put a lot of pressure on himself.He's like, I did not play free in week one.He's like, I was worried, I was second-guessing myself,I did not play confident.and he said against Oregon,he told himself,I have to just go.I have to go and play ball.
19:23I have to be fearless because that was worse.I played worst case scenario.I'm obviously paraphrasing for him.I'm sort of like,you know,like, I don't mean to put words in his mouth.But essentially like he was saying,I tried to mentally play this perfect game
19:36and we lost and it was a terrible way to start the season.I need to just play completely free,completely myself, completely confident,and they go out and they beat Oregon.So to me,we'll talk about this.we get a little bit further down the quarterback rankings.The reason why I jumped him up so much is because that version of him that I saw against
19:56Oregon is better than most of the other quarterbacks that I've seen, maybe even at theirbest in this class when it comes to versus an NFL standard.NFL arm, attacking the middle of the field, mobility, strength when he's taking on,tacklers.I thought all of that stuff was there.Physically, he's got all the tools,and there's a lot of quarterbacks in this classwhere we have to have the, well, he's not the biggest guy in the world.
20:24You don't have to say that with Drew Mestemaker.He's got the talent, he's got the tools.And when he played like he did against Oregon, man,it's hard not to really believe in what this guy could be at the NFL level.It is really easy to like Drew Mestemaker as an NFL prospect.And this is why, even before playing at a higher level of college football,you probably saw so many boards and analysts very, very high on him.And consistently stating he is one of the more high variance players out of summer scouting.
20:56Because he just, he has the talent where he could be picked in the top five.And you're right, Trevor, you watch week one.And you're like, man, maybe this is a bigger jump than we anticipated.And it's going to take two years for him at Oklahoma State before he makes himselfinto a real NFL prospect.To respond that way against Oregonnot only shows how physically talented he is,but how mentally tough he is,
21:24the way he played and in the moments.And then you want to talk about the armed talent,that touchdown throat to Wyatt Young, the long one.I mean, it was almost all arm.He's being put, the pocket is collapsing.he's like slowly step, like tiptoeing backwards and just rips it.And it's like, this guy can just make throws that are not natural.And the more big moments he has like this,
21:57considering he did not start in high school,teams are easily going to talk themselves into himbecause the upside is tremendous with Mestemaker.This was the type of game that he had no business winning.this early. And it's a credit to obviously all of Oklahoma State, but he was in the center of allthe big moments of that game. And the type of athlete he is, the size he has, the arm town hepossesses the toughness. We'll work on that goatee going forward. But I mean, he's, yeah,would I be shocked at the end of the day if Mestemaker is one of the first two quarterbacks taken
22:33in the spring? Shocked? No, not shocked. Yeah. A lot of people in the chat are saying like,he might not declare because he's still a younger prospect.He's just a redshirt sophomore.So maybe he doesn't, but you keep stacking games like the one that we saw against Oregon.And he's going to declare because he's going to be, he's going to be one of the top quarterback prospects in his class.By the way, just really quick, some people in the chat pointing this out is saying, hold on,Drew Messermaker is number two on Trevor's board, but then on the ticker at the bottom,he's prospect number 48.
23:00How's that work?I didn't send Tyler the full updated big board of mine.So the ticker is from when we were going to.summer scouting. So just letting you guys know, he would be much higher now, obviously, with him beingnumber two on my quarterback rankings. So I updated the quarterback rankings, but I haven't updatedthe full board yet. So just to be clear there. Big ticker on your ass. Yeah, they're on. No,they're on it. And that's why we love the people. That's why we love the people. Got a hold hiscount. We got to talk about Dante Moore next, right? I think that Drew Messemaker was one side of things.
23:30And then Dante Moore was another. I don't remember what Moore's exact stats ended up being inthis game. But if I remember correctly, the final stats for him were okay. But the problem wasis the first half of that game was not what it needed to be from Dante Moore. And there is a lotof safe things to like about Dante Moore as a prospect, in my opinion. It plays a very clean game offootball.The footwork always married up with when that ball was coming out of his hands.It's a very smooth throwing motion.He's got some really nice accuracy, especially towards the sideline.
24:16He does.But, Conor, I am, I had this thought over summer, but he was just, he was just so efficient.I was like, you know what?I think the efficiency is enough there from him.I think he could play in the league, and I think he could be a good starting quarterback.Over the last couple of weeks, I'm wondering if he,I'm wondering if that floor for him is the same that we've always thought.Right. But that ceiling is lower than maybe we thought it was going to be.
24:49That's sort of how I viewed Dante Moore over the last couple of weeks, not just against Oklahoma State,but also against Boise State as well.Scary game for them.So what do you think about Dante Moore from what we saw the last couple of weeks?honestly very much of the same of what I thought over the summerbut now it just feels really magnifiedDante Moore is in my opinion a quarterback prospectthat is very hard to love
25:14he's easy to likethat's a really good way to put ithe's very hard to love and what I mean by that isif you're an NFL GMthat the success of your tenureis going to be based on his successI don't know if you love that idea or how you can constantly talk yourself into that idea.But if you were in a situation that Moore was a back end around one, he's going to sit behind our starter.
25:45You can like that.But I'm with you.Like I'm going back to my summer notes just to kind of, I think he's comfortable and natural when rolling out.he's got a loose arm.He can layer throws.I think in the short area,everything's pretty snappy.I do like that he's put on weight.
26:06It's noticeable to me because I thought he looked really slender last year.Like I thought he looked like 205 last year.And he's definitely,he went back to school,he's put on some weight.He's not fast.The one thing I wrote over the summer,I think his control of the football as a pocket passer is very mediocre.
26:25Like not everything.is like I have such thesuch control of the balland can just whip throws all the timewith power.I think in bigger spotsand this is why one of the things I wroteover summer was there was shades of Louisville
26:41Teddy B who was a good prospect.He wasn't a great quarterback prospectbut he was a good prospect.And with more,you just have to wonder if he's the type of quarterbacktalent that can truly carry your teamAnd I think that it makes it really, really difficult because he's not talked about that way.He's talked about as a top two or three pick.
27:05Plenty of people like him as the best quarterback in this entire draft, and that's fine.But I just have never been able to get even close to that.And it's really fascinating because I think he was going to be the number two overall pick last year.And if you asked me today, him being the one or two pick overall this year versus the field, it's the field all day.I don't see that.And he also, you know, it would be interestingto be at the combine around him and stuff,but this is just from watching the game
27:32and, you know, listen to him in interviews and stuff.He's not a big, raw, raw kind of quarterback yet either.And that'll be something that's even talked about further as wellif this season doesn't go the way Oregon hopes.And it's right now it's already not going that way.So, yeah.I'm, I obviously have Dante Moore still at number three.because I don't want to be too hyperbolic for two games into this season from a prospect that was a really clean eval that I enjoyed watching over the summer.
28:05Right. And that's why I didn't move him.Right.But I kind of think that Darian Mentsa plays his game better than he does.It's really interesting.He just doesn't, I think, Dante Moore has a little bit better of an arm.I think so.He's got a little bit stronger of an arm than Menta.But in terms of this.
28:26layered touch pass game.Like I think Mensa plays it better than more.So I don't think it's crazy that we get a couple more games into this thing.And I go, yeah, I'd take Darien Mensa over Dante more.So that's kind of where I'm at there.And then for Trinidad, again, I think that Dante has a little bit more physically with size than Trinidad does.But I think Trinidad plays better under pressure.Like I think Trinidad plays better with the big moments.
29:00I like Trinidad's arm and his aggressiveness over the middle of the field for likethose intermediate throws.So there are things where Dante Moore is number three for me, but Trinidad's sittingthere at number four and Gary Mence is there at number five.And I can sort of make the case for both of those guys.So all of that to say, I think it was sort of consensus that it was archmanning.and it was Dante Moore sort of in that tier one of quarterbacks going into the season.And now I'm much more comfortable saying that Moore is not in that tier one with what I would consider as Arch and Mestemaker.
29:42And he is a lot closer to sort of a pick whichever one you like the most out of Darian Mensa, Trinidad Chamble's,and then putting more into that bucket as well.So that's where I am with him.And I think that you put it perfectly when you said,Dante is an easy quarterback to like, but he's a really hard quarterback to love for an NFLstandard. I think that that's very, very well put there.Thank you. And, you know, this is a good spot for more to respond the way Mestemaker justresponded. Messamaker did not have the week one he hoped for, and he responded in a big way,
30:17and Oregon season is not off to the start that they hope for. And I'm not, the thing is, I will admit,the situation around Moore right now is that Oregon has a lot of problems.Like this isn't pinning this on Dante Moore.The conversation is Dante Moore is viewed in a light that he's expected to carry the teamwhen there are other leaks in the ship and he's not.That's the combo.Nobody is sitting here going, you know, this is Dante Moore's fault and no one else's.Oregon does have legitimate problems.
30:52but I mean, it would be the same way if Texas lost Trev.People would be like,oh, for sure.Arch, you got to go win the game, man.Like, that's how we view you.That's how we view Dante Moore.And I know I jumped pretty far into this early,but I'm expecting C.J.
31:08Carr to be that guy this year.And if he's not,then he's not ready for where I thought coming into the summer.But when Notre Dame plays Miami late in the season,and they play bigger, better teams,I'm ready for C.J.to make that jump. And if he doesn't, then these are the tests that put you as, hey,you're a top five quarterback in the draft. You're a top five pick in the draft first.
31:30Hey, you need a little bit more time and you're not viewed that way.You have car at two because you had, you had car at two coming out of summer scouting.So, you know, obviously we haven't really seen anything to deter that.I had him, I had car top 10. I think I had him at eight and now he's seven for me.Yeah. So I think he popped up once.because I moved Julian Sane down.But yeah, I'm looking at the schedule for Notre Dame because I do want to talk about Julian Sane next.I'm looking at the schedule for Notre Dame.
32:04So this week they're versus Michigan State.Then it's at Purdue.Then it's at North Carolina.Then it's versus Stanford.Then they do go to BYU.That's a tough game.BYU is number 11 in the country right now.So that's October 17th.
32:17And then versus Navy.And then they host my.Miami November 7.So that's really, you're waiting for that last month, month and a half for C.J.Carr, and hopefully he's in a good spot where, let's face it,I think everybody knows that Notre Dame is going to make the college football playoff this year.So you're really just hoping that he's in a good place to where when the collegeball playoff comes around, he's feeling good about it.
32:42But I don't think we've really seen too much from him.I think C.J. Carr is fine.And I just got to, he's the one that I kind of got to wait on a little bit more.So let's go to, let's talk about Julian Sane as well.I think he's the other sort of hot button quarterback coming off of this past weekbecause we mentioned the matchup between Mestemaker and Dante Moore.We talked a little bit about Trinidad Chamblis and Darian Mensa.Chambliss has a big game this weekend against LSU.
33:09We'll talk about that at the end of the show when we're kind of highlighting some of theseprospect matchups that we've got coming up this week.Do you want him to win?I really want him.I really want him to win this game.And I'm not like a, I always say I don't root for anyone in college football.I just think it would be really cool for Trinidad to beat LSU.Well, I just think, I mean, I don't mean for this to sound like a super political answer here.
33:36I feel like I want Trinidad Chambers to beat everybody that he goes up against.It's a fun storyline.Because to me, he's also the most fun quarterback in all of college football right now.That's what I mean.Like LSU looks like there's a lot of excitement around LSU.Obviously Leavitt probably isn't playing in this game,which is a whole other quarterback storyline.But Trinidad is just,
33:57I like that he's creating a situation that is so difficultfor people like Gus to talk about where it's like,well, all the rules are you should like this guy as a prospect,but the way he plays the sport,you probably like this guy as a prospect.It's going to be real difficult if he could beat LSUand look good for people to really keep him down the rankingsbecause he does a lot.
34:17He does a lot of things that normal, smaller quarterbacks don't do.He's got a much better arm than you would expect.I think he's a frame is well filled out to be pretty durable heading to the next level.I think he sees things decently well.Obviously, not super well of the middle of the field because he's only, you know, 5-11.But it's better than I thought, though.He will attack over the middle of the field if things are there and he sees it.So Trinidad has a lot of fun, man.
34:43That's the premier matchup of the week.But anyway, so let's talk about saying,Because it's another quarterback who is a little bit smaller.Do you have his official measurements?I don't think he didn't have them because he's only a red shirt sophomore.Yeah.Because he was a guy that young.He was conveniently sick that day.
35:01Yeah, yeah.Yeah, didn't show up when the scouts show up.Interesting.No, I'm just kidding.But Ohio State, I believe, has him listed right around 6 foot 1, 21, 215 pounds.And I think when you watch saying, obviously you can see on the field,he's a little bit smaller than an NFL quarterback.typically is. But the thought process here with saying, especially coming off of last year,
35:24his redshirt freshman year, was that he was so accurate and his anticipation was so goodthat he could make up for it, right? That he would remind you of all the other short quarterbackswho have sort of made it in the NFL, right? I'm not saying that he's exactly like this player,but like, purdy, right? Like, look at Purdy. Purdy does not have the tools that you wouldthat you would say physically that's like, okay, yeah, this is absolutely an NFL quarterback.But he anticipates everything so well at an elite level.And obviously, his pairing with Kyle Shanahan really helps in that regard that it works.And he's a really effective quarterback at the NFL level.
36:00And I think some people who really want to believe in Julian Sand kind of think that of him.And I think it was easy to sort of buy into that last year because he was very accurate.And he did make a lot of really good decisions.but this past week against Texas was a little bit of, I think, some holes in the armor ofif he, this is the problem.If the bar is, well, if he plays a perfect game, then I like him.That's not a prospect that you want to bet on a lot.And I think for saying, if he plays a perfect game,
36:41again, I like him.But even we saw against Texas,when it's a little bit not quite there,he doesn't really have the physical ability to make up for it.And that's why I lowered him from where I had him with summer scoutingbecause when you look at that Texas game,you got to say to yourself,if you play the way that you did against Texas in the NFL,
37:06it's not going to be pretty.It's not going to go well.And that's what makes me.me nervous about Julian saying and that's why he's a little bit lower on my rankings thanwhere I had him over the summer. Yeah, he's somebody that just doesn't have thephysical tools right out of the gate, definitely gets uplifted by the town around him a lot,you know, isn't going to take over the game and make all these plays on his own. And then he goesthrough, you know, checking the boxes through the NFL process. He just looks small on tape.
37:41There's really no other way around it.Like when I watch him play and some of his lower moments,it reminds me of some of the struggles that Kade Klobnik had at thatlast bad year at Clemson.Where everything looks kind of erratic and you're not the biggest guy with the biggest arm.And then you get kind of out of control and you can't just physically gift your way out of it all the time.But the difference is saying he throws to the greatest wide receiver prospect.we've seen in how long.
38:13They have a great infrastructure there.We like some of the talent on the offensive line.So that can make him a difficult deval,but he wasn't in my top 50 for the preseason big board.And I mean, he's a red shirt sophomore.I think the combo is going to quickly pivot tothat we're not talking about him in this class.The trouble was saying for me is that when he is not anticipating things
38:38at an elite level,if he is late at all whatsoever.I just don't think that he has, like you mentioned,the physical tools to make up for it.And in the NFL, there's a lot of that.I think some people think that the best quarterbacks in the NFLare just always seeing things.They're always ahead of things.
38:53And they're never late to any reads.They never need to, you know, like get out of trouble.That's not the case.The best quarterbacks in the world have to get out of trouble all the time.You know?All the time.Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes.Like these guys, yes, they do see things.
39:09and anticipate things at a very, very high level,but it's not every time.There's plenty of times where they might see things a little bit late.The defense does something they weren't expecting.The defense is a little bit faster here than they thought,and their physical abilities have to get them out of trouble.And I just don't think that exists with Julian's saying.And that's a tough sell for a highly drafted quarterback
39:33if you don't physically have that ability.So tough week for them.obviously a long season for Ohio State.Hopefully he's able to continue to showcase that better anticipation,that deadly accuracy that we saw from him a lot last year.Right.And I think that's his best cause moving forward.Let's see.
39:55We got to talk about Drake Lindsay for sure.Anybody else on this quarterback list that you really want to hit?I'd say Lindsay's the most important one.And then I feel like after some bigger games, you know,we'll spend a lot of time on Menta.We'll see what step sellers can take.Lindsay is some, we just, we didn't really talk about him a lot over summer scouting.That's why he's a good guy, a good one to talk about.
40:17Yeah, so I felt as though when I watched Drake Lindsay, quarterback at Minnesota,who's, you know, 6'5, 230, 235 pounds.I mean, this guy is built like an NFL quarterback, absolutely.And when I was watching his tape last year, I just felt as though, yes, he had the physicalstature, but I didn't even see like a big,arm from him that often because I didn't feel like he was seeing the field super confidentlylast year.And this year, especially that Mississippi State game, look, I understand they got whooped
40:49in that Mississippi State game.When I had some hesitancy for calling Trinidad Chamblis, probably the most fun quarterbackin college football, Camaro Taylor from Mississippi State is one of those guys who Iimmediately thought of in the back of my head.So it was like, well, hold on.There's a case for probably, you know, three or four quarterbacks where that could be,who have a claim to that title.Who's not eligible, by the way.
41:11I saw some people in the chat.Yeah, not eligible.Just one reminder, he's not draft eligible.That's why you won't hear a ton about him on this show.Neither is the Cal Kid.I don't know how to say his last name.Oh, with the crazy last name.Yeah, but he's another guy that people understandably are very excited about.
41:26So, but Lindsay in this game against Mississippi State, he was 31 for 48, right arounda 64, 65% completion percentage, 279 yards, no touchdowns, no interceptions.but I thought it was a really nice game from himfor an NFL prospect perspective.Like, yes, you didn't get the win,you didn't light up the scoreboard,you didn't throw for three or four touchdowns.But when you watch the tape at Drake Lindsay,
41:49a lot to like.There are some throws over to the middle of the fieldthat he puts some absolute heat on that you love to see.There are a couple of sideline throwsthat he does a great jobputting back shoulder passes with pinpoint accuracy,the one that was like 30, 35 yards down the field.I mean, that's one of the best throws.
42:05That's one of the best like NFLthrows it you're going to see all season. I genuinelybelieve. Early in the second half,I think he pumped and then ripped it.And it was like, wow. It was on Kelly Jones too.And Kelly Jones was right there.I was watching the broadcast and it might have beenDusty DeVorechek, I think who was doing
42:24color commentary for that game.But whoever the color commentator was, they're basicallylike, that receiver is not open.Like Kelly Jones is covering that wide receiver.That is just an uncovering.back shoulder throw because of how good and how accurate it was.So I think he is playing with more confidence this year.And because of that, we're seeing those physical tools more from him.
42:53So I like where Lindsay is at right now, much more so than when I saw him during his redshirtfreshman year.And I'm really excited to continue to watch him moving forward because it is not always aguarantee that these big, tall, strong-armed quarterbacks just take that next step.Lindsay looks like he has taken that next step.Now, is it all the way there yet?No, but the next step, yes, I think that happened for him.So I think that allows him to crack my top 10 here now.
43:20I think he'll get there for me.Obviously, I want to see some more bigger games, but you're right.This is somebody that naturally with experience, there's going to be a lot to like becauseof the size and the arm.And they even have him work under center a little bit, which I think is great for his development.Because when you look at a big quarterback like this, if you get that under center play action going,it can really, really elevate his NFL readiness by the time he's done playing in college.He will be an interesting study of he's only a red shirt sophomore at a program that maybe he wants to stay there and build
43:59or he'll want to go into the portal to a place to continue, whatever it may be.I don't want to jump that far ahead yet,but he's somebody that he doesn't have to rush to the NFL at allin this class that has so many guys.But we would be mistaken if we didn't talk about himand at least assume right now there's a chance he declaresbecause of his physical tools,most notably the size and arm.
44:19He has arm power.That's the difference with him, like driving the ball,putting the ball like you said, Trevor,in a place where the defensive back can't get it.You know, he's not exactly dropping backand throwing a superstar hereand superstar there all the time.So he's somebody we got to watch closely.
44:37Yeah, I mean, he's just a redshirt sophomore.Mestemaker's just a redshirt sophomore, right?Arch technically doesn't have to declare in this class.Right.Sayan.CJ Carr.Yeah, CJ Carr's just a red shirt sophomore, right?I think so.
44:56A couple of redshirt sophomores Julian San is as well.So, you know, like there's a couple of redshirt sophomores who arein this top 10 of the quarterback rankings.But there we go.Any other quarterback questions you guys might have?We can get to either at the end of the show or fire him off in the comment section.We'll go back and forth to you guys there as well.People were bringing up Jaden Miava.
45:17Jade Miava is pretty much the same that we thought of him in summer scouting.So if you want to hear our thoughts on Jaden Miava,the quarterback from USC, you can hear an in-depth conversation,go back and listen to the summer scouting episode because through three weeks for him,through two weeks.Well, yeah, again, yeah, it's technically three weeks for him.It's just part for the course.I think he's got really nice touch and accuracy,
45:40not the strongest arm in the world,not a super mobile guy,true definition of a pocket passer,but somebody who can, I think,really move the ball down the field pretty well.He's just not the most physically gifted quarterback in the world,but somebody who can, I think, operate in offense for you.So we'll see USC in a couple bigger games moving forward
45:57as their season goes on.But I do want to move to the part of the,part of the show where we are sounding the alarm or you guys are sounding the alarm here.And what we're going to do is we're going to highlight three or four prospects.I forgot to check with our producer, whether we're doing three or four.And what we're basically doing here is we're either wide awake on this.Like the alarm is going off.We're wide awake.
46:23This is real issue that we've seen through a couple of weeks of the season.We're hitting snooze.or so it's like, okay, we recognize the struggles, but I'm going to give it a little bit more time.Or we're just turning the alarm off.Like, no, I don't care.It's a slow start to the season.It does not matter.We're totally fine here.
46:40So I don't even know which prospect we're doing first.So the chef can reveal the first prospect that we have here.And this is David Stone, the defensive tackle from Oklahoma.How serious is the concern here, Connor?what do you think the alarm's going off for david stone he hasn't really shown up too muchsix point seven percent pass rush win percentage for david stone two weeks into the seasonwhere are you with this obviously this is a prospect that you were a little bit higher on than i wasyeah where are you here it's it's turned it off right now for me because it's spent two games
47:18but you would have liked to see them as a whole play better against michigan for me trevorif he came out of the gateand had the exact win rate that you just brought upbutwas dominant against the run like we knowhe could be I'd be like yeahhe's gonna gain some positive momentumas the pass rusher as the season goes on
47:40I didn't think he was great against the run against Michiganwhich was kind of one of thoseman likeit's turned it off right now because it's only been two weeksbut you see hit the snooze which I know you went with therewe have one more game like thisthen I will be hitting the snooze with you on that because it kind of becomes like a, hey,the reason I'm ranking you so high is your size and power gives you such a great floor against the run.
48:05And I know that pass rush is going to evolve.But it just hasn't looked very good through two weeks at all.Yeah, I went back and watched specifically that Michigan game from them.And he's just, it's the same concerns that I have with him over the summer.The first step can be excellent when he,He gets off the ball with good leverage and the hands are up and inside.Those, going back to sort of the way we talked about quarterbacks a couple of minutes ago,those perfect refs from David Stone, excellent, difference making.
48:34He's in the backfield, offensive linemen have a tough time really handling it.But there are times when he gets off the ball, the hands are moving fast,and nothing really happens.The offensive lineman can handle him decently well.And I think he's got short arms.I think, I don't know what his exact arm length measurement is,but the way he gets got by offensive linemen,and the way it is easy for them to recover against Stone's really nice first-step athleticism,
49:06tells me that he's not really able to create that distance with better arm lengthand sort of take advantage of that really good first step.And so I'm definitely hitting the snooze here because I'm not full-blown panicbecause honestly, I was a little bit lower on him,so I kind of expected to see these things.but we got to make the jump here.Like you've got to turn that athleticism into somethingand then especially from what you mentioned,
49:30at the very least you've got to be better against the runbecause they'll play him everywhere.They play him as a three tech.They play him as a note technique.They have him all over that defensive line on the interior.And I just felt as though there were way too many timeswhere the offensive line got the better of him one-on-one.And if there was a rep where he was
49:51really dominating a double team, I missed it against Michigan.Because when double teams come his way, he's not a factor at all.And I would like to see him be at least a little bit more of a factor and put up a littlebit more of a fight with that.So I'm definitely hitting the snooze button here with him because I'm getting close tobeing worried about people talking about him as a first round caliber prospect.I was always a little bit cool on that.But yeah, I would have liked to see a lot more from him to start the season.
50:20Yeah, and it's obviously not the result that Oklahoma as a team wanted against Michigan,which kind of magnifies, you know, their top players.And he is one of their top players.There's no way around it.We got Anthony Smith as the next one.I think Anthony Smith is next.So I know this is somebody you really liked over summer.Yeah, defensive linemen from Minnesota, six foot six, 280 pounds.
50:45He's a fifth year senior.I really liked him coming out of summer.I thought there was some potential for him to be a uniquely built edge rusher to play as a five technique, to play as a four-eye.He even did some stuff from a three-point stance as, you know, like a wide seven type of a rusher as well, despite being that size.But let's reveal, because I don't know what your answer was, but I'm wide awake on this one.This one's not good for Anthony Smith.I don't think the numbers are great from him.but specifically you go back to that Mississippi State game
51:21that they played this past weekend.He's just, it's kind of like David Stone.He was so much less of a factor in the run game than I thought.Right.And that's got to be his calling card, but his size.And there were reps where, I mean, he's got long armsand these offensive linemen are almost like putting him on his heels.And you could see his arms not be fully extended and locked.
51:51out and I'm like, dude, you got to, you got to use those bad boys.Those are the physical gifts that you have.You've got to create that space.You've got to get these offensive linemen on their heels.And so he has been much less of an impact and specifically in the strength run defense game.I was really disappointed when I watched him against Mississippi State because even, Connor,even in the reps where he did kind of control the offensive linemen that was in front of him.he didn't he didn't stack and shed he didn't rip off the block and make a play as the running back
52:24was getting close to him he was just kind of a non-factor and obviously for as high as I had himin my rankings to start the season that's a that's a big time I'm wide awake from what I saw overover the last couple of weeks with him I'm with you I mean I can't say that I was a big fan thissummer but just what stands out to me is he just doesn't make an impact on tape enough it's it's Iknow it's such a simple thing to say, but obviously at that size, he's not a unique enoughmover that he's going to change the game up front that way. And if you're not, and you're going tobe more of a, he's built like a big end, right? You think of the guys in the league that are 280 poundsand they have alignment versatility. They could be a bigger defensive end for you on passing
53:07downs. Maybe they can kick inside and play interior alignments. He's just got to play a stronger,more violent brand of football. If you want to be one of those prioritized big ends andAnd it's just he's been in college football for a while.And I don't see him take over in enough moments to really get too excited about him as this top 100 kind of a pick.By the way, people in the chat are saying that the chef is A-Iing goatees on all of these guys.Like this is the chef's work.Yeah, when did the goatee come back?I don't know.
53:42I don't know.Savvy play by Tyler.We didn't even notice.I can't do it.There's no way.I feel like I can't.I can't.You could.
53:51I just wouldn't recommend it.Yeah.Yeah, I don't think I can.I don't think I can do it.I don't think I could pull up a mustache either.My dad's got a legendary mustache that he's had for as long as I've been.I remember at the wedding.Yeah.
54:05Yeah.I mean, it's iconic.It's amazing.It's very, like, modern day Western movie.Mustache.Like, you could do.the like a hell or high water mustache.There's a couple good mustaches in that one.
54:23Let me pull up.Yeah.You can do.You'd be surprised to hear.I don't.I'm assuming that that's a movie that I haven't seen.Yeah.I know you love movies, but surprisingly you missed that one.
54:35Chris Pine has a mustache in hell or high water that you could absolutely, you couldabsolutely nail.I'm telling you.Yeah.Give it a shot.Good movie.out of modern day westerns, which are very, very hit or miss.Damn, everybody's got a mustache in this movie.
54:52Yeah, everybody does.But you got the Chris Pine one, which is one of the better ones.So, there you go.Wait, and then Chris Pine's sitting next to this guy who's got a sick goatee.I think Ben Foster, you're probably thinking of.Dude, this is just a, this is just a facial hair movie right here.Yes.Yeah, we got to get you in on that, too.
55:10We got to get you, you know, we got to get you to grow out the goatee.I'll bring it.I'll bring it back.I don't know.It's not a good idea.It's nothing good about that.Thims would never let me hear the end of it every day, every single day.I had a mustache one day and he spent 30 minutes of the show on it.
55:26So I think the Goatee is going to stay kept away in the attic.Do you, I watch a lot of sports center in the mornings.And Gary Streisky and Randy Scott are my favorite, just because, you know, like they're,they're close to us in age.They say all the millennial humor.Like it's just, I think those two are the best.They're super clever.they have a great time with it.
55:49I'm laughing and having a good time,basically every single sports centerthat I watch it they host.And Randy is growing a beard right now.And just every single show,somebody roast him for something.It's not even always like Gary.Like Gary will sometimes roast him for it,
56:06but sometimes they'll have like the guests on.Like, oh man, who was the one the other day?Like Herm Edwards was on.I think like a couple weeks to.And like Herm, even like at the very,end like he's analyzing something they're analyzing the game coming up or whatever and then just at the endboom put throws in a shot against Randy's beard and uh I just think it's always I think it's alwayspretty funny you got to be careful with what facial hair you launch it can when you're on camera for a
56:34living because boy can you you can become the main character quite quickly yeah it's true you don'tlove that true uh I think we have one more two more oh Damon Wilson's next so Damon Wilsona little bit quieter of a debut than I think we thought that he would have at Miami,especially because they played Stanford without Nikki Prongos.And then also Fam U, I think was the other game that they played here.Let's reveal what level we're at with Damon Wilson.So we're both on the same page here.We're turning the alarm off.
57:09I'm not worried about it quite yet, especially for sort of where I had him preseason.I think he's totally fine.I saw the limitations from him, but I also think he does a lot of things pretty well.So I'm not sitting here saying, oh, super worried.He's still got like a 13 and a half percent passers win percentage.What I'd like for it to be higher?Yeah, but I'm not too worried about a quiet start here for Damon Wilson from Miami.I'm not either, especially when you look at against Florida.
57:36So he's like, yeah, these guys have played two games.He's basically played one in a quarter.So against Florida A&M, which Miami,understandably steam rolled.He played 17 snaps.They're not keeping their guys out there in those games.So he's been, he looks fine like I watch him move.I try to watch that Miami defensive line every week
58:01because there's so many draft guys that we were interested in.But no, this is no concern here at all.Let's see what it's like when the games get bigger.Yep, I agree.Did we have a fourth or was, or was,that went it.Oh, we did have a 40.There is.
58:17So this is on the other side of things.So the first three guys that we were talking about were sort of from a negative perspective,where they haven't been playing super well and we're a little bit worried about it.This is Isaiah Satania, the wide receiver from Oklahoma, who had a really good opening week.And then against Michigan, I think it was a struggle for everybody.But where are we at here with Isaiah Satania?Let's reveal sort of where we're both at.So we're both at the same spot.
58:42We're hitting the snooze button.We need to see more from them.I'm very intrigued, man.When I watched Satania last year, and I even watched him when he was Arkansas,I thought he was just a go route receiver.That's it.Track superstar, running a straight line, get down the field.Maybe we'll throw you the ball.
59:00Maybe you'll be a decoy.This year, Connor, I think, is different.I think he has learned to tempo that speed.I think he has learned how to really take sharper breaks in his routes,and that acceleration is really showing up just as much as the long speed is.So it wasn't a good day for basically everybody with Oklahoma against Michigan,but I'm very intrigued from what we're seeing from Isaiah Sataniabecause every year there's one or two guys who are just these speed demon wide receivers
59:30who get picked, you know, top 100, top 75, whatever it is,because the NFL believes that they're more than just their top speed,that they're kind of more of a complete receiver.and I wonder if maybe we get to that world with Satania,who's also an excellent punt returner as well.Yeah, you want to see him, and I'm with you,somebody I won't pretend to be incredibly high on over summer.I think I had him as wide receiver 17 when I went through the wide receivers.
59:57You know, he's a lighter player, really dynamic after the catch.You love that he can return punts because he's done a lot of it in college.Can he try to develop himself into an Antonio Williams?type of player, right?Where you probably like him in the slot,but like you said, Trevor, because of the athleticism,can you become a better separatorand still have those dynamic after the catch skills
01:00:23where he's so elusive?So I'm with you or it's just kind of one we're watching.I'm not going to be like, whoa, he's a totally different guy,but undeniably an interesting playerdeeper into this wide receiver class.Yep.So that's all we had for this segment.I'll sort of open the floor.
01:00:44Are there any other prospects that you kind of want to shout out that you've seen over the last couple of weeks?Two that immediately come to mind for me.Jeremiah McClellan, the wide receiver from Oregon.I did not get eyes on him going into the season.I think he is talented.I almost got him in the conversation of the mock draft episode that we had a couple of weeks ago.Like I think he reminds me a lot of Jordan.Madison skill set where, man, I think he could absolutely play in the league and be a starting
01:01:15caliber wide receiver.But I've liked what I've seen from him early on.Deuce Alexander, the wide receiver from Old Miss, somebody that I think deserves a shoutout.I know Dame Bruebler, the goat, was saying that he had talked to scouts last year and he wasasking him about the Sean Stribling.And they even told him like, hey, watch out for Deuce Alexander next year.We kind of think he's a little bit better.
01:01:39So he's somebody who's got a lot of speed to him as well.He's shown up over the last couple of weeks and obviously really big test against LSUupcoming this week.And we'll kind of talk about that a little bit more when we get somebody's prospectmatchups.Those were two that immediately came to my mind that I have watched early on here that I didn'tget to talk about during summer scouting that I think are worth a shout out becausethey're decently high on the big board to start the season.
01:02:02I'm going to give someone a shout out.It just reminded me from the chat.I'm the prodigy kind of reminded me of this.Trayda is green.looks awesome to start out the season.And that's not a whole, and way to be on that, chef.That's not because this is a on the fly discussion here.We knew how dynamic he was as a past catching mismatch player over summer.
01:02:25I thought the tape, despite his odd build, when you're 6-7-237,it's like, how are you going to play on the Y?I always thought the effort was really good.But it can only get you so far, especially when you're playing the leverage game,you're lighter.I think he's looked really, really good,trying to be a bigger factor in the trenchesas a blocker for their run game
01:02:47while still being a really, really dynamic threat in the past game.This is a guy right now that is trying to cement himselfinto the first round.And if he really has made himself into even an average blockerin the zone running game while being such a uniquepass-catching threat, he's going to go in the first round.I mean, a huge week for him to show up in a big way against the old miss, right?I mean, if this is, everybody's going to be watching this game.
01:03:17With a backup quarterback, probably.What did you say?Probably with him catching passes from a backup quarterback.Yeah, it sounds, I don't even know who the backup quarterback is for LSU.I saw it today, and it was a name I knew, and I was like, oh, college is weird becausenow we're in the world where every starter feels like they're from the portal at quarterback,but behind them was once upon a time somebody.that you heard a lot about in recruiting.
01:03:40Right.And then they'll just transfer somewhere else.It's very, very strange.Oh, somebody in the chat asked thoughts on Lincoln Keenholz, the quarterback from Louisville.I only have seen live.And obviously, he was sick watching him live.But I haven't sat down to actually watch the All-22 and think about how legitimateof a prospect he is.
01:04:04Another guy I wanted to shout out, this is a senior, somebody that we're going to be talkingabout throughout the All-Star circuit.Ansel Din Nibu, the defensive tackle from TCU.He's just under 6'2, 300 pounds.So he's got kind of that bowling ball build to him.But man, as a three-technique defensive tackle, I was really impressed from what Isaw from him, especially in that opening game against North Carolina.Man, he looked good.
01:04:30He is a better athlete than you would expect for 300 pounds.He is flexible.I think he's got great balance, good core strength, very strong.active hands.He's never, despite having a little bit shorter of arms, he's never letting theseoffensive tackles get hands on him inside and really be able to maintain these blocks.Although the pass rush bag with him being a senior is deep from everything that I have heardand learned about him.
01:04:53He's a super high character dude.I am really impressed with him.And I think he's somebody who could be a potential, you know, top 75, top 60 type of a threetechnique defensive tackle in this class.So wanted to shout him out as well.because I've been pretty impressed with what I've seen from him.Yeah, I mean, that's a really good shout,a player that I haven't seen as much of.
01:05:16I was trying to go through my notes to see some guys that we,that weren't a part of summer scouting.One that caught my eye week,one that I posted about was Keishon Johnson on Syracuse.Yes, yes.He's so interesting because last year when he was at UT Martin,he set their sack record 13 and a half.And then he had three sacks in his first game for Syracuse.
01:05:44So he also, I learned this, he went to St. Thomas Aquinas.That is where both of the Bosa brothers went.And Kishon has the sack record.That's crazy.I did not know that.For St. Thomas Aquinas.Yes.Yes.
01:06:02He has the sack record.So.Man.worth keeping on the radar for sure.It's just, you know, because you try to be careful of how much you take away from some of these lighter matchups early on in the season.But when a guy can move that way and bend, it's like, okay, I'm going to see where this goes.Because if you can really have that first step and bend, you have such a foundation.Last one, at which I'm sure we'll talk other prospects when we get to the super chats here in the after the episode part of the show.
01:06:34Jimothy LewisJimothyYou heard me rightThat's like what you callLike if you have like a friend named JimAnd you're just messing aroundYou're like hey JimithyYeah
01:06:45Nice I'm glad somebody committed to the actual nameJimothy LewisThat's awesomeHe's a cowHe is only a red shirt sophomoreI believe this is his first yearAs a full time starterKind of doubt he declares
01:06:57But he is 6 foot 6,000poundsHe's built like an NFL offensive tackleHe's played both lefttackle and right tackle before.He was at Mississippi State before he was at Cal.He started four games last year.Now he's a full-time starter at Cal.
01:07:15But the athleticism for him, excellent.I think he's got the frame to even put on more weight,whether it's another year in college or an early year in the NFL,but the flexibility is there.The feet move very quickly.He is not a passive player at all,despite the fact that his movement skills havea lot of finesse to them.
01:07:35He is inexperienced, and I do think that he needs to gain more way to handle powerand anchor a little bit better.But man, we want to talk about like framework for a guy who could potentially be astarter at the pro level.He's built like it.He moves like it.A lot of potential there for Jim Matthew Lewis, the offensive tackle there, Cal.Anybody else?
01:07:55No.Is that it?We're getting into the super.I think we got our look ahead time, though.Oh, yeah, yeah.We do.I forgot.I forgot.
01:08:01We got to get to that.So prospect matchups.this week, a little bit of what to watch here.Obviously, Ole Miss versus LSU.That is the premier matchup.You know, it was going to be Trinidad Chambliss, you know, versus Sam Levitt,but looks like Sam Levitt's probably not going to play this game.Apparently, he was at the walkthrough today.
01:08:21Levitt, so I don't know if Lane is up to his usual tricks.I'm not going to, you know, I thought of that too.I thought that he, is he just listed Levitt as doubtful because it's Lane?Yeah, but doubtful, what in your life has anybody ever played when they're listed doubtful?I can't think of one.Basically never.But Lane Kiffin would do this.Yeah, if there was somebody that was going to buck that trend.
01:08:50It would be lame.Did you see the, I might have got got, but the like Sam Levitt preparation graphic?I didn't see it.Okay, maybe it's fake.And I'm wondering if you got got, got.Just from you thinking maybe you got God.It's totally fine if I did because it's still funny.There's a graphic online of Sam Levitt's readiness routine.
01:09:15Maybe it was shown during the broadcast of a game.Yeah, it was from ESPN.Okay, this isn't fake.Sam Levitt readiness?They showed it during the game.So Sam Levitt's readiness routine.Oh, my God.The chef has it.
01:09:28Hold on.Hold on.The chef has it.The chef has it.You're going to love this, Trev.Okay.readiness routine nine and a half to ten hours of sleep including naps blue light glasses one hourbefore bed what if he's not looking at screens he's just still wearing the blue light glasses i guess
01:09:49he can't look at any form of light wait wait it's okay the next one is phone down at 8 p.m so he's notso wait he's not looking at his screen at all whatsoever but he's got to put the blue light glassesMaybe he's watching a show.Okay.The phone goes down, though, because you know the phone is so close.Sure.Fair, fair, fair, fair.FRC routine.
01:10:12I don't know what that is.Neither do I.Now I'm nervous because I just said it out loud on the show.Functional range conditioning uses slow active joint rotations and targeted contractionsto improve your mobility and joint health.Okay.EQ flux, electric wave and full body.body flush.
01:10:33All right.Yep.Right.Of course.Systemic energy or relaxation bans.Organic food.Chef.And then in parentheses, it says,
01:10:48Chef.What college kid is living like this?Tyler put on the breaking news on the ticker,Levick gets ready before bed.Oh my God.then he says no microplastics only glassesokay my wife would co-sign with thatso never hand sam levitt a bottle of water
01:11:12no god well yeah yeah yeah no he'd throw it right back in he'dyeah he'd like sorry can't do itconcentrated seawater this is where this is where you lose methis is where it says magnesiumjust take the magnesium pill broconcentrated seawaterIs this guy just drinking the Gulf of Mexico?Oh, boy.
01:11:38It's on Amazon.Concentrated?It's on Amazon?Yeah, it's on Amazon.And then the last one is genetic testing slash blood work to optimize cortisol and stress levels.Not a bad thing to do.No.I will say.
01:11:58Not a bad thing to do at all whatsoever.It's good to make sure that you're getting your blood work done.everybody out there make sure you get your yearly physicalsdoesn't matter how old you aremake sure you guys are going to get your yearly physicalsdoing blood work very keyliving a happy and healthy lifebut how often is he doing this
01:12:13every night before bedhe's acting like he's getting blood work every nightwell he's checking his cortisol levelswhich can change at any hourlive it is cortisol maxhe's anti-cortisol maxinglight said his bedroom probably looks likethe place they gave Captain
01:12:35America his super soldierzero. I mean, I don'tknow, this feels like a lotbefore a game.Or before every night.Dude, what happened tojustwhat happened to just go into Olive Garden the night
01:12:53before a big game? Bread sticks.What happened toa little, what happened to just a littlecarb loading? A little sodiumloading. A little all you can eatsoup and salad,I think I actually want this graphic for every quarterback now.Because you know there'd be some really good ones.
01:13:13You know?Hot and ready.That'd be my readiness routine for a game.It would just be one bullet point.Hot and ready.Little Caesars and in parentheses, meat lovers.Yeah, this is, and we'd be ready.This definitely has like looks maxing vibes, only football readiness version.
01:13:37Yeah, I had to bring that to the show.I'm glad it's real.I didn't, I wasn't had, as the kids would say.Well, this is good.Well, this is good.I don't think you're unc yet.Not yet.If this was like AI on Facebook and I brought it to the show, then I'm definitely unc.
01:13:54Yeah, you were, I was nervous for you.You got really scared right away.I was really nervous.I was really nervous.I was really, really nervous for you.But, hey, now we at least have the TikTok that we're going to post this week.So that's good.There you go.
01:14:06Going over this.That's good.Okay.The other game.other than that that we had here.One of the matchups, Trinidad Chambliss,going up against LSU safety,Ty Benefield,
01:14:16who is one of the safety that is very highly regardedin this safety class.Obviously, you could also watch Trey as Green,Trey Wilson's in this game.We get Kiwan Lacey, Centering Perkins,Jordan Seton. You know, Jordan Seaton in this game,Jordan Seton versus Blake Purchaseand Centering Perkins.
01:14:37So I think that that's a big matchupthat we have.What's the next one after this game?Florida State versus Alabama.There's only one that I had, you know, do we get Gibral Rawls versus Ryan Coleman Williams?These are guys that, depending on who you ask, top 100 prospects, top 75 prospects,again, just guys who have some NFL future to him.This is the Connor Rogers.
01:15:01This has my mitts all over it.This is the Connor Rogers.This is your two sons.Right.you had PJ Williams, the offensive tackle from SMU, as your number two offensive tackle in this class,and you had Clef Lubin, the Clember.Clemmer.You had him as your number two edge, number three edge?
01:15:26Three.Simmons and Stewart above him.Oh, right, right.So what's interesting is-you're going head to head this week.PJ Williams is playing left tackle this year.He's been a right tackle for years.so good for him that position versatility i was kind of going into the year like hey he's just a righttackle that's fine but he's playing left tackle he looks really good through two be as not a lot
01:15:51of pressure and then clevma you already know the the lubin jokes are the chat i can't i just i can'tread the chat i just can't read the chat every single time we talk about club lubin yeah we'reWe're going to have to take a break.We're going to have to take a break.We're all out of Lubin.Okay, the last one, the last one is just more of Florida's playing against Auburn.And there's a lot of unknown for Auburn.Byron Brown is obviously their quarterback.
01:16:23So, you know, if you're, if you're into Byron Brown as a quarterback prospect in this class,you know, he's somebody that you watch, Jaden Baugh, appointment television.I feel like every single week.But I'll shout at a couple of other guys.There's two guys on Florida's offensive line, Naji Harris.Nagee Harris, maybe is how you see his name?He's their offensive guard.And then Harrison Moore, who's their center.
01:16:46Both those guys have had really, really nice starts to the season.More experienced players, either either seniors or redshirt seniors, if I remember correctly.But those guys can play, man.Played really well.And a lot of those, Jaden Bob, big runs.He's running behind those two guys.And so Lakota Dupree as well, their tight end, a blocking tight end, who I think has a decent NFL future to him as well.So Florida Auburn matchup, kind of just more of a, hey, there's two big programs.
01:17:13It's a handful of NFL guys that are involved in this one.But those are the, I think the premier prospect matchups that we have for this week, obviously headlined by that Old Miss and LSU game.We'd love to hear from you guys, just everything that we kind of did here on this draft guide episode.It's very malleable, the word that Connor is used before here on this.podcast.Liable.Appropriate way.Anyway.
01:17:33Pliable.Flexible.There's a lot of things.Be like Sam Levitt.What was it?FRC joint.Flexible.Routine.
01:17:47Yeah.It's C.I don't know.I don't remember what the C word was.I don't remember.Crock pot.That's what I'm going with.We would love to hear from you guys about what you thought kind of of of this format.
01:17:58Different things that you would like to see from the draft guide.You will talk about quarterback.and update the position rankings is sort of the real meat and potatoes of the show.But then these other segments that we could have, however you guys want us to cover the draft,the whole reason why we came up with this is just suggestions from you guys.So let us know what you think and ways that you feel like we could even do that better.Let us know in the comment section, feel like that's the best way to do it as well as in theDiscord.
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01:18:53We'd love to talk some ball with you twice a week.Monday's Thursday, 3 p.m. Eastern.anything else Connor before we get out of here no we got some super chats we'll close out the post show withand uh i love doing this because man it's it's a great way to stay on top of the draft week by weekwhen you're like oh yeah that happened that happened and we're about to get some really goodgames over these next couple weeks as well yeah yeah no it's it's gonna be great if you'rewatching live stick around for the after the episode portion of the show if you miss it you cancatch it on Fridays when we release it as sort of that fan mailman
01:19:27bag episode that you guys can see then.Appreciate everybody watching.Shout it to the chef.Behind the scenes making it all happen for Conorajum, I'm Trevor Sikima saying thank youfor watching this episode of the NFL Stagachian Show.We'll see you guys next week.
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