NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - CFB Week 4 Draft Guide: 2027 QB Rankings Update & Prospects We're Concerned About

Episode Date: September 24, 2026

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers give you their second episode of DRAFT GUIDE! We go over our current Top 10 QB Rankings after Week 3 of the CFB Regular Season. We also do a new segment: Sounding the Alarm! Where we look at players people are "sounding the alarm" on and we say whether we're concerned too, whether we want to wait another week, or if we aren't concerned at all. We end with our favorite matchups to watch this weekend that could impact the draft!Huge thanks to Amazon Fire TV Stick for supporting today's show as well!Keep up with highlights and game recaps on Fire TV including the latest from Fantasy Life.Watch instantly with no downloads, or sign-ups, or fees, free on Fire TV.Subscribe on YouTube and help us get to 100k subs! It's 100% free and helps us out a bunch. Thanks!WE HAVE A DISCORD!!!!! JOIN HERE! https://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEWhttps://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEW?feature=descriptionif the link doesn't work for you, just search 'NFLStockExchange' on discord and it'll pop upFollow us on X:https://x.com/NFLSEshowhttps://x.com/TampaBayTrehttps://x.com/ConnorJRogersWe appreciate each and every one of you ADDICTS :)For business or other inquiries, reach us at [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You did a good job highlighting Anthony Hill Jr. I watched him for week two as well. And, oh, did it lose you guys? We're back. Okay, they're here. The people here. So Anthony Hill Jr. I don't feel so good.

Somebody said that I'm one pixel right now. The problem is you can't trust it. I think we might have to cut it. I don't know really what to do. Well, I don't really know how to leave. Welcome to the continuation of the NFL Stock Exchange Show. We're picking up right where we left off. So what I was saying about Anthony Hill Jr., it's a he who shall not be named.

So I guess that we can't say Anthony Hill Jr.'s name anymore. Or that happens to the show. I want you guys to know that was the first time that Connor and I also saw what you guys saw on Monday's show. And the chef, as he always does, puts it together and encapsulates it beautifully as a little bit of a recap there. So, Connor, it's good to actually see you fully pixelated, my friend. I'm glad the internet's working for everybody out there today. Yeah, big grocery or big tucks hasn't gotten to this one yet. It's good to see you in HD as well, Gary ours.

That was the moment I realized I don't know how to leave the stream. Both of us, I think a peek behind the curtain, the chef is truly the one who is running the show. Yes, full control. We don't know how to turn the stream off. And Tyler's internet was not cooperating. either like it was a whole it was a whole mess of everything that was going on and tyler at one point dropped out and so we couldn't hear him anymore he wasn't in the recording room anymore but this stream was still going your your chats were still blowing up conor i were just standing there not knowing

what to do with our hands and it was that moment that it dawned on us that we actually have no idea how to end the show so um that was that was the pure panic moment that you guys saw on on monday show And if you missed it, yeah, I mean, you can fast forward to the end and see our absolute panic of how the show ended. When the lights went out and I knew my voice was still overcoms, but I could see nothing else. I truly felt like I was in the Testeractive Interstellar when he talks to Tars and he's like, Tars, you're alive? And I'm just floating, I'm just, Tars, you're alive? And I'm just floating around. I'm like, I have no way out.

I can throw a sheet over my computer camera and mute my mic, but I'm still. in here. But the stream is still going. It could have just been the stream that never ended. We could have just stayed live. Jump back in. I get, we could have just stayed live until this moment here.

So that was a hilarious way for the chef to let everybody know what happened on the Monday stream. Today's stream, which is not the Monday stream. We're back, baby. We're not running our internet off of an air friar like somebody in the chat said earlier in the show. We're talking about quarterbacks.

We're updating the quarterback. rankings here for the 2020 Senate of an NFL draft, which we got some big ticket names to talk about here after last week's games in college football. We're going to talk about a couple of players that we are sounding the alarm for, or really you guys out there are sounding an alarm for, and we're going to kind of determine, hey, are we fully up? Do we hear the alarm? Are we worried? We hitting the snooze button. We kind of waiting a little bit more on this prospect, or are we just turning the alarm off entirely? We're not worried about it. We're not getting super hyped up about it one way or the other. Plus, at the end of the show, we'll help

preview what is the upcoming week in college football. Give you guys a prospect sort of profile list really quickly before we dive into the quarterback rankings here because this is a community and I want to make sure that we get to this. Jack said, hey guys, had to put my dog who is Jack's profile pick down today. Really appreciate having you guys to bring my spirits up a little bit. Much love. Love you Jack. sending you all the love in the world. truly one of the most heartbreaking things you can happen in life

but it really is just because there's so much love between you and a little pet man and I just I hope that every time you always think of your little guy or girl, whatever it was just the memories always bring you a smile

that's the best way that I can say it and we're here for you man love you sending you all the good vibes and the love today so we appreciate you Jack I echo all that for jazz I'm sorry, man. It's the hardest, you know, it really is one of the hardest things to do. And I think Trevor said it perfectly. Whenever I hear that from people and I've gone through it a couple of times in my life, it's not easy in the moment, but just think of how awesome everything was and how special you made that dog's life and how special all those moments the dog made for you. And I do hope we can give you a laugh for hopefully, you know, an hour and a half, two hours of, you know, a way to kind of clear your mind today.

nonstop hearts love in the chat let's get that share some love for jack in his pub as we as we dive into the quarterback rankings here let's get to it let's get to these quarterback rankings the 2027 quarterback class still extremely extremely intriguing really i would say all the way through uh one through 10 here so i don't know how the chef has it does he have just our our one through 10 title wave time maybe that we're uh that we're really there it is there it the title wave just straight on the screen for everybody to see. Connor, I will let you run through your quarterback rankings first. I'll run through mine and then we'll have a good conversation about it. Yeah, so definitely have some

movement here. And I see Austin Simmons in yours, which I'm excited to hear you talk about him, because I watched him and Drake Lindsay and almost had them in those nine and 10 spots. I definitely think they're hovering around, which is really, really interesting. there's definitely some movement for me. I think that we're at the point with Trinidad, man, where I don't know if he's going to finish his number two for me. And I get everybody. You got him in number two.

Let's go, baby. I understand everybody's going to be like, listen, he's still an older prospect. He's still a smaller quarterback. But the more film we have of him, he just doesn't play like a small quarterback. And he's elevating his game in the biggest moments. And the arm is really, really lively.

He can throw from. the opposite hash outside the numbers, and he's confident, and there's just a lot to like there. Ironically, Arch is still at one. Arch, I feel like a lot of people probably didn't watch this game. Archer's not great against UTSA. So I am watching, Arch is under the microscope this week against Tennessee, because he missed throws against UTSA where I was like, is Archer right right now? Because they had the emotional win over Ohio State, and yes, they won, and it wasn't really a great

game. But he didn't specifically play up to his standard in that game. game. C. Jack Carr, we're just waiting to see C.J. Carr in better games. I mean,

they're going to play BYU. They're going to play Miami. They're going to play SMU. And we'll see what Carr does in those moments. And that'll really dictate everything for him. Mess the Maker. I've had him at four, I think since summer.

I haven't moved him. And I feel like I started out really high on him. And we've gotten a little bit of a high variant season from him. But I get why you have him at two. There's just tools and traits to like. While on the opposite, like Dante, Moore has tools to like, but he just hasn't galvanized this Oregon team that has more problems

than just him by far. But the expectations are really high for Dante Moore. There's no way around and he hasn't met them. We'll go through all the quarterbacks, but I kind of want to just start with the top five. And then we'll talk about the guys on the outside looking in. Yeah. Yeah. So you and then just list off the 10 and then I'll list through my 10 and we'll kind of like ping Yeah, so I went through one was arch, two was Trinidad, three was CJ car, four was Drew Mestemaker, five is Dante Moore. Six is Dary and Menta who bumps up another spot. He's kind of just trickling his way up the ladder. Jaden Mayaaba at seven. And Mentson Miava moved up to six and seven. Shout to the kids out there because, hello, Gen Z. Lenora Sellers drop two spots.

He just, he drives you nuts for all the talent he has with some of the mistakes he makes. Julian's saying at nine, although I don't, one, if you know if he's going to be in this class, too, I'm with you that Lindsay and Simmons are kind of making their push to pass him. And then Swordsby, who it's going to be hard for him to stand this spot because he's not playing football this year, but I don't want to completely neglect all of the positives I saw from Swordsby on tape over summer that he's at least in that third to fourth round kind of range. Sure. Yeah.

And for me, one through 10, and then we'll kind of dig into it a little bit further. I also still have Arch at number one. I've got Drew Messamaker at number two. I moved him up to number two last week, so I still have him at number two here this week. Trinidad, I bumped up one spot. I've got him at number three. I have him jumping Dante Moore,

who's now number four for me. Dary and Mentsis is right behind him at number five. Jada Maiava, I have at six. C.J. Carr, who looked good against Michigan and had some really nice throws. I have him at number seven. Yeah. Michigan State, excuse me.

Yes, he says. Drake Lindsay. I've got him at number eight. Austin Simmons, I finally got around to his tape, watching him, the quarterback from Missouri, got him in here at number nine, and then Julian Sanna have at number 10. I also have Lenora Sellers out of this,

and I think we'll have the Sellers conversation in a second. But yeah, I think let's start at the very top. Let's talk about Archmanning really quick, and then I want to get to Trinidad Chambliss because a massive win for them against LSU this past weekend, and just a lot, honestly, more of the same, of just some phenomenal play that he's had all the way from really the second half of last.

last season to now. But Arch Manning, you're right. It's, it always feels like you're kind of waiting for Arch to look better more consistently. But I wonder if that is a little bit of an unrealistic bar that maybe we have placed on him. Right. Just because his last name is Manning and we, he was supposed to be, you know, the second coming or the third coming actually of this, this royal family of Manning quarterback. from Archie to Eli and Peyton and now Arch is in that mix. And I still think that he does some things really well. He just doesn't do it as consistently as you would want him to.

It's in big moments sometimes. So it's not like it's, it's hard to, in my opinion, look at Arch's game over the last, even two years, even for his struggles last year and think that you can't really say, oh, he hasn't showed up in the big moments. Oh, he can't be consistent. Oh, this or that. He has done all of those things.

He just doesn't always do them on a regular basis. And I think that's something that we're still really waiting for for him. Specifically, I think these back-to-back weeks are sort of an encapsulation of where Archmanning is currently as a quarterback. In one moment, you can have him show up really big against an opponent in a big game and a big moment like Ohio State. And the next against UTSA, you want to see him, all due respect to UTSA, rip these dudes apart. The talent that you have, the talent that you're throwing to, all of that, we want to see you look really efficient, really good,

and not sort of play down to a level of competition. And it feels like Arch has done that a handful of times over the last couple of years, which sort of puts him back in this bucket and opens up the tier one of quarterback talk. It's not just like Arch is alone in tier one here in this class. No. I think that you put him in a bucket with at this point. Mestamaker and everything that he can be. And then I think you put Trinidad in that bucket as well.

Now I don't know if the NFL is going to draft Trinidad Chamblis in the top 10 or top five. It just so rarely happens. Sure, you could say that Bryce Young went number one overall. And Bryce looks good to start this NFL season. I want to make that very clear. But before this season began, Bryce wasn't looked at as a top 15 quarterback. And so to say, oh, well, Bryce is. Young went number one overall. Oh, well, Kyler went number one overall. Sure, they did,

but those aren't really good examples at this point. Right. As a debate for Trinidad Chamblis going number one. So I think that people are going to want to have that point, that conversation of how early you draft him, but sort of segueing it a little bit, because you touched on Arch and then I touched on Arch there, segueuing it to Trinidad Chamble's. For whatever a small quarterback can be, it's hard to not think that this dude is everything that you would want him to be. And in that, I mean, it's been more than just that LSU game. But Connor, that LSU game was more evidence to just the fact that this dude plays the position at a higher level than maybe anybody in this class, maybe anybody in the country at this point as we're watching college football.

I'm with you. I think one of the biggest compliments you can give a quarterback is as the opposition, hey, we need to play where he's not going to have the last crack to beat us. And doesn't it feel like everybody is looking now at Trinidad Chamblis that way? Where you're like, hey, if the game comes down to it in the fourth quarter, and we don't time things right, and Trinidad has a chance to get the ball back, I'd be terrified. How could you not be?

Elaine Kippen kind of hinted at it in the post game. And I think he knows a thing or two about Trinidad Chamblis. it's, listen, there's a lot of season left, but what you have to distinguish, there's, there's going to be a lot of battles and things that go against Trinidad. And I see it in the chat every week and I get it, guys. I've been with you before. Like over summer, I was sitting there like, God, this is not the type of prospect profile that at quarterback that you want to jump into, you know, dive into. And, but the thing is, like, you brought up the smaller quarterbacks and how that'll work against him.

And like an interesting one will be because Trinidad was over summer, was apparently from a spring measurement, 511 and 7.8. So you assume that with the stretching tactics that they do before the combine, he'll be like literally exactly six feet tall. And Baker was six feet and like six foot and like a half inch at the combine, I think. Right, right. So that's another one that'll be hovering around. That's true.

That's true. Right. Which is interesting. and then he just got paid a lot of money. Thicker, wasn't he? Oh, brother, don't, don't. I was having a good day. Don't.

Hey, it's two weeks. Two weeks. Anything can happen. Brother, brother, it's not two weeks. Okay, continue to go. Go, go, please. The other part is, I can't devolve into this. The small quarterback thing, the recent examples will work against him.

The one that I don't think will is the age. Because the most recent one to do this was Tyler. Shuck, everyone's like he's going to be 25 before he's the rookie. Tyler Shuck turned 25 in September of his rookie season. Do you think the Saints are mad about using a second round pick on Tyler Shuck right now? No, and I'm glad that you brought this up because I wanted to have this part of the conversation. I think naturally, when you get to draft younger players early in the draft that you're very confident in, it's sort of a multi-layered positive here, right?

One, you're hitting your second contract by the time you're 25, right? Or if you're signing it early, maybe you're 24. That's ideal because you think that if you're drafting a guy in the first round, especially if you're drafting a guy in the top 10, this game is a violent game that puts a lot of wear and tear on your body, no matter what position you play. And for you to be able to get two long contracts,

a rookie contract, and then also hopefully a pretty long and confident second contract, before this player even turns 30 years old, you feel pretty good about it at most other positions. If you're drafting a guy who is younger earlier in the draft, there's a chance that they also had a very young breakout age as well. And when you are younger, if you can stand out against 23, 24-year-old redshirt seniors

and seniors in college football, and you're 19 and you're playing extremely well, Well, that means a lot. That means you have a lot of natural talent that stacks up against older competition. So those things, I think, are positives when you're evaluating, hey, age when it comes to drafting guys a little bit earlier. But for the quarterback position, I don't really think it's as big of a deal as a lot of people make it out to be. Now, context is everything in certain elements, but you think of the best quarterbacks in the NFL right now. sure, there's some young guns that are playing really well, obviously, but you've got guys who are well into their 30s.

Sometimes we're seeing now some great quarterbacks can make it two and past 40. To me, I'm just not worried about it. I'm not really worried about it at all with Trinidad Chamble's, with him being a little bit older. With the quarterback position, the shelf life is so much longer when you play the game the way he does, which is at such a high IQ. an anticipation level.

And because of how he plays the game and all of that involved, I'm just not worried about him being 25. Now, Connor, if it's not a big deal for you, do you think the NFL's gonna care about it? Because I do think the NFL's gonna care about it. Yeah, no, I'm not.

I think the league's gonna care about it. I'm not sitting here up on this show today, like, hey, Trinidad's going second overall or anything like that. I think that this conversation is far from over. what I've learned in doing this is that it truly only takes one team and there's at least always one that is more open to the risk factor compared to others or I mean the things we see in the draft nowadays like the entire conversation after this draft was the consensus board

and how some teams are going so far off the radar to take players that they like and they don't care about consensus. And this isn't to like insult those teams or say they're right or wrong. We have no idea. The point is the variance in team by team thresholds, rules, emotions. Sometimes I've talked to people that have been in a front office and they were like, the GM loved the player. The rest of the room didn't.

And the GM loved the guy and had to take them. And that was it. That happens in the NFL. So, or sometimes it's the owner. And sometimes it's the freaking owner. That's exactly right, sometimes the owner gets off the yacht. One button too far down on the button shirt,

walks in the room, we're drafting this guy back to the yacht. I really liked the Ravens owner. What is it, Steve Bishotti, that he was like, I got my one pick. I asked for a pick this year. And like, I thought that was cool because he took Adam Randall,

the Clemson running back. Yes. Because one, Because, one, you own the team. It's like, of course, you could have a pick. He didn't take a premium pick. And after they took him, he told everyone that. So if the guy stinks, it's like he was, you know,

it wasn't one of those, like, owners, like, usually like to hide in the shadow. I was to be like, I really wanted that guy or we should have took that guy. And then, you know how many times they're also wrong? So, yeah, so credit to him for keeping it real. But, yeah, I think this combo with Trinidad is, hey, man, credit to Trinidad Chambliss, who not that long ago was playing at what? Ferris State. And now he is at least making people ask the question,

is this somebody that, I mean, now I think he's going to be a top 50 pick. I think the combo out of summer was, is Trinidad Chamble is going to be a top 50 pick. I think the answer is definitively yes right now. But the fact that it feels like every month or week goes by and he's trying to challenge for a little bit more is a real credit to him. Because, I mean, real talk, you have one drive in college football right now. now and you get to pick one quarterback to lead you on that drive to win a game.

Is there any other answer? No, no debate. There's not. There's not. It's not like he's playing in the FCS. No. No. There's no debate.

There's no debate. I mean, I'd, I'd, I'd give a slight thought to Camaro Taylor because of how crazy he's playing right now. He's not eligible, but yes, he is, yes, that is fair. But the, but the answer is Trinidad Chamblis. And just to get a little, just to put our scouting hat on a little bit, what makes Trinidad so great. Brock Purdy was talking about this.

I can't remember which podcast it was on. But I saw this clip. It's almost October, by the way. It is almost proctober. It's also almost Locktober. Oh, I'm seated for Locktober. Oh, my God. G-C through the headphones.

Man. Wow, that's a great. There's a bracket to be done there. They're both one seeds on each side of the bracket for October. Dude, I saw a TikTok. edit and it was it was the clip from um avengers end game and he and he's like uh he it was the it was the clip where he's like uh you're from earth he's like i'm not from earth i'm from missouri and and it like it goes to drew lock putting on the jacket when he was doing the missouri celebration then it

it just of course it goes to the hardest drew lock highlight reel you've ever seen and i was like damn that was actually pretty sick um but anyways drew lock highlights essentially But look, Brock Purdy was talking about this on a podcast because I think Brian Greasy is his quarterback coach. And he was saying that the way that sort of he approaches the game and like Greasy was sort of telling him this is 60% of the time you can see the player that you're throwing to. Like you're throwing it to somebody who's in man coverage or whatever. Like you could see the player you're throwing to. but Purdy said 40% of the time, you can't see the player that you're throwing to.

You're throwing it to a spot. You're throwing it in between zone. And you are hoping. Now it's, it's more than just hope. You practice this, right? You have this repetition. You watch film,

all that kinds of stuff. It's in rhythm stuff. But you're not even throwing to like where a receiver is. You have to, it's all about anticipation. Trinidad Chamblis is exactly that. There were so many times, in the Louisville game to start the season, in the LSU game that we saw last week,

where he is throwing to a spot, but he is throwing it so perfectly and in rhythm and just pinpoint accurate to where his guy is getting it or nobody else is getting it. The anticipation that he has versus zone is fantastic. His arm strength is way better than you would expect for a player of his size. And specifically, a lot of times when you get these shorter quarterbacks, they don't like to throw over the middle of the field, he'll throw middle of the field.

Now, obviously, there are times when seeing over the middle of the field is difficult over the pocket, if there isn't some sort of movement that he has, whatever. But he'll throw middle of the field. He is fearless against it because he knows how to attack zone and he knows how to throw in rhythm and that accuracy, that fearlessness, all that stuff is in there with him.

So there are still areas of his game that just being of shorter and smaller stature affect what you can expect that he does. But a lot of those ways where you would say, I'm out, because he's a short quarterback, those aren't issues with Trinidad Chambers. I agree. Certainly not to the point where you would take him off your board completely

and say, no, no, no, this guy's not going to make it in the NFL. So a smaller quarterback, but he does so many of the things. that small quarterbacks normally don't do. He's a lot of fun. He's tough to quit, and I couldn't agree with you more. I think he's a top 50 type of a player right now, and now it's just a matter of where you are drafting him in that top 50,

because I'd tell you a lot closer to being a first round pick than to not be in a first round pick at this point. Yeah, I think so too. I think that he's going to have a lot more moments already this weekend. It's crazy their schedule right now. Like already this weekend, more moments that kind of just play higher level competition and keep showing up. Look, I am a proud Florida Gator grad.

I think he rips our defense a new one. I don't think, I don't think, Florida's offense is awesome. That's going to be the interesting thing. They're going to put up. They're going to put up points. But I don't think people realize how not good Florida's defense is. And I think Trinidad Chamblis is going to expose that. It'll be an awesome game.

It will be, especially what we saw from, Will Eccles against LSU, my lord. He dominated in the trenches and that's what we're hoping to see from Will Eccles. Florida's got some guys in the trenches that are underrated, not just for college football, but for the NFL draft, but we'll get that a little bit later when we're kind of preview in some of these big matchups. Well, quarterback, you want to hit next on the ranking that we had there.

I can talk about Carr quickly because you did shout this out and it's a good call out by you while I was kind of killing their early schedule. It's not their schedule. They're just so much better than the three. teams they played. He did, I thought the deep ball looked really good against Michigan State. He had a couple of nice ones for sure. He had two beautiful deep balls and then, you know, and a thing I wrote down about him over summer was like, how is he going to handle pressure and can he make more plays off script or out of structure or breaking from the pocket? And he had that

crazy play where it looked like he was tackled and he stayed up and he rolled out and made a throw. That was crazy. It was crazy. So Carr is, you know, another thing with Carr too. And it's got to be you know, it's got to lead to results against, once again, better teams. But what you can evaluate against the, in these games is, you know, he has a lot of power at the line of scrimmage. He's looking to make checks. He's, you know, he's getting them set up for protections. They're putting more on his plate this year, which is wise of them to do, especially now before the second half is going to get crazy. But I, there's still a lot. I really, really like about CJ Carr. Yeah, I thought it was a really nice game from him. He had a, he had a couple

of throws, you know, two or three throws that were really nice in this game. I didn't think that, you know, he was ripping it all over the field all game long. But I think for him being a redshirt sophomore, he's kind of exactly where you want him to be. And I think that he's doing a really, really nice job. Obviously, you have him higher on the ranking sort of for the potential of what he can grow in to be. I have him a little bit lower, more judging him sort of what he is exactly in this moment. But he does he, he has shown in flashes what he is capable of doing. And it's not a tough schedule, like you mentioned, with Notre Dame, basically until they get into the college football playoff,

which had got to feel like they're getting into the college football play. They're going to have a couple. They got BYU, who's top 15. They're at Miami, which is the big one. Oh, they do have Miami. Yeah, they host Miami, November 7th. And then they play SMU. So those are three really good teams. Back half of the schedule, then I guess they do have some good ones.

It's just a slow ramp up. It is. It is. That's the thing. It's a long preseason for them. It feels like when they're playing rice, it genuinely felt like the preseason. It's spring training. No disrespect to rice. Hey, I love rice.

Brown rice, Bosmati, Jasmine, you know? Power ranking the rice is. I mean, we don't get started. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. You see these bodybuilder physiques here on camera? Well, you know we know our way around.

from rice. So people are talking about Dary and Mensa. I have in number five. You have him at number six, saying that he's a little bit too low. You know, you having him at number six, funny enough,

that matches the amount of total incompletions that he has through the 2026 college football season at this point. I actually don't know if that's true, but it's actually probably closer than the joke would indicate. Adjust a completion percentage is 93.4%. Look, Darian Mentsa is a pinpoint accurate player.

I mean, to me, point guard of a quarterback in rhythm, ball placement, touch, leading his receivers, being able to throw against zone, all of this stuff. I think it, Derry Mentsza does at such a high level. Even for me, loving Mentsza as much as I do, his arm is adequate at best for the NFL at best. At best. And I think that you do really have to think about that. And for the level in which he is playing at just the efficiency in which he is playing. It's probably how I should say that.

You have to consider him potentially being a starting quarterback in the NFL, or at least getting a starting shot in the NFL because of how well he's distributing the football. But it's tough to watch him, you know, when he hasn't really gotten in trouble much at Miami and he really, in the times in which he got in trouble, sometimes he could get out of it when he was at Duke. But when the competition level, when the same. size, the strength, the speed, the everything speeds up in the pros.

He then has to take his game to the next level in order for us to see similar results or even in the same realm of results for him. So a quarterback who love how he approaches the game, love the natural touch that he plays with because that is just not a guarantee for any quarterback. But you got to be honest about where we are with the arm strength with him, which is adequate at best for the NFL level. Yeah, and he's another player too. I am really curious what his official measurements will be.

I don't think he's a small quarterback, but he's definitely not. If he comes in like 6.3, 215 to 220 at the combine, I'd be shocked. I just don't think he's... You think he'll come in like close to like 205 to 10? 6.1 and a half. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

But I mean, like you said, his game is based on precision. And he's somebody that I think has a good feel for pressure at the line of scrimmage pre-snap and attacking against the blitz. I do have some questions about the deep ball and the deeper stuff. And he's a younger quarterback, so maybe he'll continue to get bigger and stronger. And we're really waiting for them to play someone, though, too. I mean, that's, that's, can only move a guy so far when they haven't played anyone. I'm with you.

So for the next guy that I want to talk about here on the list, I do, let's, let's talk about Austin Simmons, who I have at number nine here. Our friends over at Fire TV, they're making sure that you never miss a game. and we're here to make sure that you never miss a rising prospect. And Austin Simmons, the quarterback for Missouri. He is new on the list. So he is a rising prospect that we are making sure that you guys don't miss here. So he is a redshirt junior.

He was actually at Old Miss last year, started the season as Old Miss's starting quarterback, had an injury, which then allowed Trinidad Chambliss to come in. And of course, the rest is history with how Old Miss finished the season. And we're obviously talking about Trinidad Chambliss a ton here. He's a former four-star recruit from the state of Florida, was committed to Florida originally,

but then he flipped over to Old Miss. He was a redshirt in 2023, back up in 2024, and then he was a starter last year, before then transferring to Missouri. So we really don't have a lot on him. He's basically only started those two games that we saw from Ole Miss, which he did not look good.

And now to start the season against Missouri, it looks a lot better from, him. So he's just a shade under six foot four. Now, he's built like an NFL quarterback, 220, 225 pounds. I mean, this is a bigger dude. He's got a big NFL caliber frame. I think he's got pro level arm strength to him. There were a lot of times where, hey, they were opposite hash and they were telling him to throw these out routes and he was able to get the ball where it needed to go. I think the footwork and the base that he has, very consistent, very fundamentally sound, allows him to deliver a good strong football every time he winds up.

I wouldn't call him a dual threat quarterback, but he can pick up some yards and some first down with his legs. It's something that you got to, you know, keep an eye on. I think that he also, sometimes when you get these younger quarterbacks with not a lot of experience, they want to just fastball throw everything. Yes. This is one of John Mateer's biggest issues, is that Mateer just wants to fastball throw everything and it gets him in trouble. And most of the time, Austin Simmons is trying to show.

show off the pro level arm. But there were a couple of times, especially in that Kansas game that I watched where he took a little off of it, put a little more air under it, and it was a nice touch pass. So I liked what I saw there from him. The wind up Connor, bit longer, bit more looping to him. I thought so. Yeah. He's got some panic moments under pressure, which you would expect for a guy who hasn't started a ton of games, needs to speed up his decision making again, what you would expect for a guy who hasn't started a ton of games. And a lot of the throws, that he has hit Connor, not exactly tight window throws. So I'm kind of waiting to see more of those in game where he's been able to rip it

and really have good ball placement on certain passes, but they seem sort of pretty open for him. And those kinds of throws on a regular basis just aren't going to exist in the NFL. So just a red shirt junior, he might not be a prospect in this class, might be a 2028 guy, especially with the lack of experience that he has. but he is somebody who I'm very intrigued by because I think he's got the physical tools and stature to play in the NFL.

Definitely. I agree with your point too about the release and a little bit of a wind-up. I was watching, they were in a bit of a battle against Troy most recently. And to your point about like the fastball throwers, he's still kind of learning when he has somebody open

and he kind of needs a layer of throw. and put a little bit more air under and touch. You can kind of see his, his mechanics change a little bit where he's like, he's trying, you know when you're doing like trick shot stuff with your friends and the releases just change for everything? It was kind of like,

it was kind of like, it's okay. You're just on the internet all day. Just you and Brett Coleman. Essentially. I feel you, brother. It's happened to me too. No time for friends. But yeah,

there was just a couple times where he's he's trying to figure out how to layer those throws and he'll have some misses but you know and it's it always looks a little weird with the lefty but i don't think that's that has anything to do with it but yeah he's like you said he didn't get to play a lot last year so he's still getting comfortable but the size armed strength that's clearly there for him yep i agree i ever i agree so he's our can't miss prospect with fire tv they'll they'll make sure that you don't miss a game you guys ever sit down ready to watch the game we're whatever it is, only to search and scroll endlessly. If so, you guys need a fire TV. It organizes all of the live games from your favorite teams in one place across all apps right on the home screen. No more endless scrolling. Find where the games are played. Easily subscribe to the streaming service as needed.

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You don't. You really don't. I'm a testament to it. Don't be like me. Okay, so I did see some people talking about because we're introducing some new players. Have you watched Lincoln Keenholz yet from Lul? Yeah. So I also watched him.

And he's not in your top 10. He's also not in mine. On the radar. On the radar for sure. So he is a redshirt junior. I don't think we've talked about him here on the show yet. But I think a lot of people started to get to know him, especially after that Ole Miss game and then the SMU game as well.

So he's a redshirt junior. He's listed six foot two, 215 pounds. He was also a four-star quarterback, played football, basketball, and baseball. I got the stats for you. Oh, let's go. Nice job. Finished on the Class AA All-State basketball team after averaging 19.9 points, 7.3 rebounds and 2.8 assists per game as a junior. This young man was hooping out here in high school. He also finished his career with the most passing yards in South Dakota, state history.

Okay. So this was not just a multi-sport athlete. This was a accomplished multi-sport athlete. Somebody says that Ivan Drago in the chat. And, uh, okay, that got me. You guys, that's good. Okay. That's good.

He looks like he plays a war hero in every movie, this guy. He does. He does. He's been committed to Ohio State. Redshirted his first year. Only played in two games in the backup in 2024, backup again in 2025. So his time in Louisville right now is his first time really started as a quarterback. And what we're seeing to me is, because I'd love to hear your thoughts on him as well,

I think he's a legit athlete. I think he's got a great multi-sport background. That shows up in how he plays. I think the natural passing ability versus man coverage, you know, when he's got man coverage on the outside, he is very comfortable, you know, giving his receivers a chance to win vertically up the sideline. I think that there's that natural passing ability there. And he's just got a natural throwing motion as well. Again, natural is, I think the best word to describe. him. He's just a natural athlete. He gets it. He knows how to play sports. And I think that you you see that with how he plays the quarterback position. Now, I think I've seen some people talk about him very highly from an NFL draft perspective. I'm not as hot on that as other people seem to be.

I think he's got a tendency to be a little bit erratic with his lower body mechanics. Sometimes, you know, he'll fade away from those deep passes just because some guys just like to do that sort of like a style points type of a thing. I think he's got to put his full body into throws to really get a lot of RPMs and really get a lot of velocity on it. And I think the inexperience is just there for him because you'll see him make one read and then bail from pockets. And I understand it, right?

He's an athletic kid. And that's probably what his coach is telling him, like, hey, go make a play for. for us, but I think right now he's a very fun college quarterback. I don't know highly, how highly I'd have him on a ranking for the NFL at this point in time. And he still has another year of eligibility, right? Yes, because, oh, so on the screen, he's a fourth year player on the screen. It says senior, he is a redshirt junior. So he will, he would have another year on top.

Right. That's what I thought. I could see a world where it makes the most sense for him to stay because he's been waiting to play. Oh, totally. He was just buried at Ohio State. Now he's getting his opportunity. He's flashing.

I know people are going to live in fear when I say this, and I don't mean it as an insult. But the two games I watched him on tape, he reminded me, and this is in a good way, not as a prospect, but as a college quarterback, like you said, he plays a little like BYU, Zach Wilson. A little bit. Where it's like he's really good at escaping.

He can roll out, like you said, all upper body and just kind of loft the ball, the deep ball effort. I didn't think it was that much effort on the run to throw. He's really, really springy in his lower half and Twitchy, too. But yeah, I think not the biggest frame, not a power like drive with my hips and legs kind of arm yet, but it's a couple games and he's been waiting to play. And I think he's, I think there is, there's legit talent there.

But I'm not jumping as far ahead, like you said as some. Conrad in the chat said, could he be a backup? Brother, we can all be a backup as long as the starter doesn't get hurt. Every one of us could be the backup. You see the backups in this league? This league. Every one of us can be the backup. I watched Tim Boyle.

As long as the starter doesn't get hurt. Black Friday. Instead of being with my family after Thanksgiving, I did a pre-imposed game, where Tim Boyle before the half threw a Hail Mary that was taken back 100 plus yards to the house. So it was a touchdown. Yeah, technically it worked in some capacity.

Technically, that was a Hail Mary prayer that was answered. Just it wasn't your prayers. It was the other team's prayers. Really quickly, before we move on to some new prospects that we're going to talk about here on this show that we are sounding the alarm for, Lenora Sellers coming off of a loss to Mississippi State. he's number eight on your rankings.

I dropped him out of my top 10. Lenoris' physical talent is evident and has been the entire time that he has been a starter at South Carolina. He's so gun-shy now, man. Yeah. I am just, I feel as though he's just mentally

almost broken in like how he, now I don't know if it's just because yeah, past catchers aren't getting open for them. We've talked about how bad South Carolina's offensive line has been over the last couple of years. Like, the run game has been okay at times, but certainly not dynamic, something that you could lean on. It's basically all been on Lenora Sellers' shoulders since the moment that he became a starter like two years ago. And I'm watching that game against Mississippi State. And I just, for a player who has the

arm talent to attempt every throw on the field, even tight window throws, he just doesn't do it. And I think that his mentality now is, I can't put the ball in harm's way. I can't have a turnover worthy play. I can't blow it for my team. And because of that, he's just not playing free. And you see that in how sometimes he doubts his decision making. Sometimes he doesn't even let go with the football.

Sometimes the accuracy isn't what it needs to be because he's just making sure that the ball is not in harm's way. I just really don't like where his head is at right now with how he's approaching the game. And I almost feel as though he just needs a complete reset. to really sort of achieve what that physical ceiling is for him. I agree. It's kind of looking like, does he just need to go somewhere else

and be rebuilt from the ground up or go to a place where they ask very little of him out of the gate and build up his confidence over time? I mean, it's just more of the same of what the problems are with him where he plays really slow. He does.

And it's probably a blessing a curse of being this big and this athletic where probably i would think your whole life you can play that way because if it's like break the glass in case of emergency i just run away from everyone and nobody can tackle me and i'll just score or throw a bomb right and then when you get into forget you know high level college football really any level of college football at some point, there's got to be rhythm and timing and an internal clock. And it's just, he's in a tough place right now. There was a couple of really tough moments against Mississippi State. And you said it, Trevor. He's just not confident as a passer. And the process just feels so delayed all the time

that he's still really far away. And I watched the tape last year and went to summer scouting. And I was like, man, there was a lot of better than I thought for Lenore's considering the environment he was in. I gave that caveat. But now it's like how many years can we keep doing this where it's just there's not enough growth as an actual NFL passer? Yeah, at this point in time with him being a redshirt junior, you kind of have to go, okay, well, enough like what he can be talk. Like if this is what he is going to the NFL, like where are you drafting this? And I don't know. like I don't know if I am like I wonder if I would just say I'll let somebody else take a chance on it because you you have to have a lot of faith in your offensive coaching staff you have to have a ton of faith in your offensive coaching staff to really get the most out of these players build up their confidence have them see the field the way that they need to and if you don't have a ton of that like if you're more of a defensive minded head coach and coaching staff and everything like I probably just let somebody else draft him but long season so there's certainly room for Lenores to continue to grow and maybe we're

having a totally different conversation about obviously a very physically talented player a couple of months from now. I mean, to answer your question, though, and he'll be valued more highly than this, but to truly answer your question if the giraffe was today, and it's not, so he has time, I mean, is the answer not like he'd be valued the way Tailing Green was? Day three quarterback with massive arm and size and tools, but we don't expect to put him anywhere near a football field for the next two years. I think you'd be valued higher than that.

That's what I said, but I'm saying like the actual, like, thought. I think it's hard with quarterback because how can you always roster a guy that you don't want to play? Right. At this point in time, I think he goes in the range where Levis went. Oh, wow. I do not. Levis went in the top 40.

Levis went early second round. Yeah, that's where I think. Wow. I think somebody would take a chance on him. second round. Interesting. I think this version of him is trending more towards the third to fourth round. Now, now again, I kind of go back to at that point in time, I'd probably let somebody else drafted. Right. Like, I don't think I'd personally consider it at that point. But the NFL loves the talls, you know, the bigs. They just, they love, they love those dudes who have all the physical

talent and all the traits in the world. I can, I can fix him. him, you know? And so, yeah, I wonder if that's kind of the range that we're talking about here with him. Staying to saying more on the Carson Beck range. Maybe it is. Maybe it's just, I think it's probably wide enough to say like day two range at this point. But you're saying maybe it's early day three. Quarterbacks, man.

It's hard. It's hard. It's so freaking hard to figure out because teams are just so weird with what they value and don't value and what they can roster. Mm-hmm. So, like Grenade saying, Jalen Milrow went 90-second overall, sit back, learn. Perhaps that's more of the range that we're talking about here. Maybe it is closer to a third-round thing. But, yeah, I mean, I remember looking at Levis, and it's like, dude, Levis was an absolute loose cannon when he was coming out of Kentucky. And he didn't even put his best foot forward in that last year before he went into the draft.

And he still went at, you know, top of the second round type of a thing. Richardson, I know, goes, you know, six overall. all. Well, the difference should go four. Fourth. Four, fourth overall. I don't know why I always think six, but fourth overall. So I know those aren't good like cases to say like, oh, yeah, like this is going to happen because of this. Yeah, but it'll never change. No matter how many bad examples we have, it'll never change. You know why it won't change? Because everyone thinks they can find Josh Allen. Because everybody thinks they can find Josh Allen. And guess what? They can't.

Oh, man. Last thing that I'll say about quarterbacks Before we go into these new players is Connor Wegman Conor Wegman was playing pretty well The return for Yusin. I mean, he's racking up the stats, no doubt. But, you know, I'm watching him. And obviously I like Connor Wegman a lot a couple of years ago

when I felt like there was a lot of potential for his growth as a pro. He's playing confidently. He's playing well for a college quarterback. But I kind of think that Wegman has just evolved into a really fun college quarterback. When I watch him, I still don't, I still don't think he's an NFL quarterback. He's got like that sawed off, shotgun release, abbreviated, kind of throwing motion to it. He's a great athlete.

A lot of what he brings to the table comes from him being a dual threat type of a player. But when I watch him play, I just go, I don't know how much of this is really translatable, man. Like you're just, I don't think that you're really making full field reads. Everything is so quick on your offense. and it works at the college level. I just don't think that he has made. He's made a lot of progression to become a better college quarterback. I don't really think he's made a ton of progression to become a legit NFL quarterback.

So I wanted to shout that out because I know a lot of people are talking about him because he's playing well right now. Houston's offense is fun. Houston's a fun team. I know. They got Mayo on defense. Yeah. Mari Thomas? The wide receiver?

Yes. Yes. They are a. A bit of a pest, some would say, this Houston team. They are indeed. Okay, let's go to our next segment that we have here on the show, sounding the alarm. So this segment was curated by the chef where he's like, hey, you know, there's a lot of people, there's a lot of draft addicts that are out there, NFL to C addicts that are out there that

are sometimes sounding the alarm for a lot of these players. And we've got three different ways that we could do this. From a positive standpoint, you know, you can turn it off. Now, I'm not interested. I'm not really into this. snooze is more of like, hey, I'm intrigued, but we're going to wait and see. And then I'm wide awake. If it's positive, it's like, hey, I'm wide awake.

Like, I'm absolutely ready to go all in for this player. And then from- What are you in real life before we continue on with this segment? Are you, are you a snooze guy? Are you like the first alarm? All right. You strike me as one alarm and you jump out of bed for the day. No.

So normally, I wish I was that. And sometimes I can be that, obviously. But I'm a hit the snooze once kind of a guy. Okay, yeah, that's where I've gotten. Well, I'm lying because when a baby is crying, you can't hit the snooze button. But when he's asleep and I wake up from the alarm, I am now a one 10 more minutes guy. Yeah, that's where I'm at. Give me, give me my nine extra minutes to close my eyes.

I feel like 23 year old me could hit snoozes until it was time to go to bed for the night. So not anymore. See, I was never that bad about it. Yeah, I used to be a night owl. See, now I need to know. Now I need to hear from the people. If you're watching the show live, let us know how many times you hit the snooze in the morning. And if you're watching this after the fact, let us know in the comment section.

I'm very curious where the addicts are here, where the average is. Okay, who's the first player that we're sounding the alarm for? Okay, so we've got Ty Benefield. Two safeties, which is nice because we haven't done a ton of safety talk. Two safeties. All right. So Ty Benefiel. and Kingston Lopa, the safety from Cal,

who a lot of people are hyping up big time here in this draft class. I think let's talk Benefield first because he just came off of that big game against Ole Miss. And he's gotten a lot of hype, I think from a lot of people to potentially be a top 50 type of a pick. Yeah. You played at Boise State previously. Now obviously on Lane Kippen's roster at LSU. How real is the breakout?

Let's see. What were our? answers here for Ty Benefield. Okay. For Benefield, this is a positive alarm. So that means I've seen a lot of hype for him. And I think you just illustrated it really well that this is a senior safety that transferred that genuinely could be a top 50 pick in this class that has a lot of talent on defense.

That's a big statement. And I'm turning it off for now. I, you know, really went into this game wanting to watch him because I'd seen a lot of hype for him. he's big he's fast he's a high energy kind of player there's just mental lapses and i think a lack of instincts against an old miss offense that is going to challenge those where i was like he's he feels more like a physical downhill safety with right now some real limitations i think and I will say the expectations were probably a little high for me from the hype he was getting.

But this was a big game. And I didn't see necessarily a top 50 pick. I think physically he checks a lot of those boxes. But I think some mental lapses in coverage and just some overall feel in coverage as well. There was some lower moments, I thought. Yeah, I thought it was interesting because my call on this, I think I told, I think I told Tyler that I'm hitting snooze on it. because it really is just a player that I need to see a little bit more of.

And I was intrigued because when I watched and intrigued, maybe isn't the right word, perplexed actually is probably the better word here. Because when I watched him for summer scouting, I felt like he was a very fiery player, a very physical player. I thought he was best suited to play in the box and be more of a downhill safety. Like you just mentioned. Dude, they played him single high a lot.

He plays on the moon for them. Yeah. And so it's kind of like, are you just learning how to play as a deep safety a little bit? But I did, I felt like his impact was relatively low for the whole game. We're talking for a full game perspective against Ole Miss. He had a nice play where he was sort of robbing over the middle of the field. And like that's honestly the area where I probably like him the best. Like Halsey last year? Yeah.

Yeah, actually. Yeah, ironically. The Halsey rule a little bit. But they were just, they were sticking him so far back in zone coverage as a single high center field type of a safety. I just didn't really know what to think. And so I think there are some people who are really into the athleticism and the physical play that he could have and everything.

I just didn't really see the playmaking instincts from him from that alignment. And I feel like it was doing a little bit of a disservice to what he does best. Yeah. I mean, the low, like if people want to specific. examples, of course. There was the third and 12 in the second quarter that ended up going for a touchdown.

But like to your point, Trevor, he's roaming in the middle of the field. And he's just you're right. What he's built like and what fits him and how he wants to play. Because when they throw a screen, he wants to fly 100 miles an hour downhill and hit somebody. When he has that

freedom. Right. Exactly. But when you watch him needing kind of to think sideline to sideline and okay route combinations and let me anticipate a throw here. I think he second guesses himself. And you saw some of that against Ole Miss where it's like, should I play the ball? Should I play the man? Is it his responsibility?

So maybe it's just not the most perfect use for him right now in this defense. But also if you have some of those limitations, it's just hard to be a really, really high pick. Yeah. No, I'm with you. Just pause the hype train for now is what I did. Yeah. I'm hitting snooze, but I'm much closer to sort of your end of it than I am, like, wide awake, I'm all in, I'm buying it.

Yeah. But it was just a, I ended up giving it a hit snooze just because it was a role that I wasn't really expecting for Ty Benefield. But we'll see plenty of him moving forward. Let's talk about Kingsen Lopa. So this very unique player who a lot of people love already. So he plays at Cal. He is a redshirt sophomore this year. He is listed at 6 foot 5.

210 pounds. So he has a long, lean, safety linebacker hybrid type of a player, 99th percentile in height, 68th percentile in weight for an NFL safety.

He's a former four-star player from Sacramento, California. He played wide receiver and DB when he was in high school. He originally committed Oregon, redshirted his first year, played as a rotational player last year, now he transferred to Cal,

and he's in a full-time starting role. Connor, the reason why a lot of people are talking about this player is because he currently leads the country, three games in, with five interceptions. Yeah. 104 interception yards and a defensive touchdown. He's a real ballhawk,

you know, not to state the obvious. I mean, certainly in the Syracuse game, because he had three in the Syracuse game alone, I think. Yeah. Yeah, in that Syracuse game alone, he's got three interceptions. So I watched the Syracuse game and I watch, what was it? The UCLA game from him. What do you think of this player?

How real is the breakout? You turning the alarm off. Is it not? Is it not what you think the stats are saying? Are you waiting for more with the hits news? Or are you wide awake? You're all in on this player. Man, I'm going to be honest with you.

I'm very intrigued right now. at least that I'm where I'm going to hit the snooze and, you know, keep an eye on it after what I've seen because number one, whenever you see these ridiculous inflated interception numbers in three games, you're like, okay, like what tip passes happen here? He really hunts the ball. Like he sits on the quarterback and he wants to jump passes and make plays. And when you are built like him,

he kind of dictates the catch point a lot, which is so impressive for a DB, because he's got long arms, he's really tall, even if he's not actually 6'5, he's at least 6'4. He's got, once again, he's got this big radius to make plays.

So I loved the way that he hunted big plays and capitalizes on big plays with more of the receiver mindset. I think there is real cover skills there, especially cover skills in zone or off where he can kind of sit. and try to read the play. I think in the UCLA game specifically,

run fits as a traditional safety are still a work in progress to me. Where it was like he might hesitate or the angle, he might be a little late, and he doesn't sound like 210s light, but he's so tall that he looks light. Where he might come up a little high rather than driving through the hips.

You notice that too? Yeah, I can see it in your face. And I'm like, man, like you are, really upright when you meet the ball carry, you are just going to, and he falls off sometimes because of that. So I hit the snooze because I think the ball production is real. Is it like the most amazing five interceptions you ever see? I'm not saying that, but it's, it's not BS. It's real. He's got instincts. He's got a natural knack for winning the football against his targets. But if he's going to be an actual safety in that middle of the field role sometimes that he plays,

the physicality and kind of keying in on the run is the work and progress part. So he's kind of this wide range of outcomes player for each style of defense at safety that we're going to keep an eye on. What was Eman Worry's weight? He had to be at least 220. So he was 220.

So he was 6.3. 220. And Lopa's listed at 6.5-210. and I am very similar with how I see your assessment of this player. I'm also hitting the snooze. I'm not ready to go all in on him. I see the athleticism. He is a very springy athlete. The stride length.

I mean, this dude can flip the hips and open it up and he can go. Yep. There were a couple of times where he was sort of either a robber defender or maybe he was line up in the slot where he was flipping his hips and then just running deep to really cut off. a pass and I was very impressed with the ground that he's able to cover because of those long strides because of that athleticism that he has. However, I think he leaves a lot to be desired in run fits. And his tackling fundamentals, like, even when the ball was near him, he didn't

really love getting in on the tackles, if he didn't have to, which I noticed. There were plenty of times where he wanted to just lower the shoulder on somebody instead of actually wrap the wrap up tackle him. I felt like I kind of did not see him wrap up tackle very often. He just didn't really want to do it. And like you mentioned, he tackles high. And with those three things being notes that I have from him and run defense and tackling, I wonder if he loves the physical parts of playing the game. And when you're a safety and you're a hybrid linebacker type,

of a player. Right. I need you to be that. And, you know, it's interesting because I think the NFL is going to look at a player like this and think that he's got all the potential in the world, right? Especially with offenses getting more and more condensed in their sets, more tight ends are on the field now more than ever over the last 10 to 15 years, really going back to like the 2010-2011 era.

And with that being the case, you want. these bigger, longer, hybrid defensive backs to match up against tight ends and man coverage and to be able to attack the pocket because they've got a little bit more size to them. Nick E. Manwari, the reason why I brought him up is the perfect example. But he's the perfect example because it worked for him. But I remember watching Eman Worry when he was in South Carolina. And there were plenty of times when they put E. Man Worry, South Carolina did, in the slot or at the linebacker level, when he wasn't super jazzed about

being physical. Like he wasn't really this thumper type of a tackler. He didn't really want to do it. And I remember talking with John Ledger about this pre-draft where we're like, man, we love what Eman Worry could be as an athlete. But if you don't like the hit, that scares me a little bit here.

Of course. Now, he goes to Seattle where physicality is pounded into your head. That is what you do. Seattle is a fast, but they are a physical football team everywhere. And I think Eman Worry, credit to him, bought into that culture of physicality in that Mike McDonald defense.

And it was a perfect place for him to land. But right now I watch Lopa, and I've heard some people talk about him just because of the versatility he has as like a potential first round draft pick. You got to be a lot more reliable as a tackler and run defense if I'm going to take you in the first round, even for all the coverage ability that you could bring. So in terms of where the hype sort of is for him right now,

I'm hitting snooze. I need to see a lot more. I need to see more consistent hunger and fire when it comes to wanting to be physical. But in terms of the athletic gifts of this kid has, yeah, very, very unique player, very intrigued for sure. Great breakdown from you on Eman Worry because that was one of the hardest things about his evaluation.

It's one of the hardest things about the NFL draft is projecting what a guy is going to become in a certain environment. environment where it's kind of that sink or swim. And that's why I think we're both snoozing this player rather than turning it off because there is part of us that is just so intrigued by the profile of the player. Where honestly, I look at him right now. I'm like he looks like a zone outside corner with the way he plays. Almost.

Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. But what would he be a corner? Hold on. I'm a look of these measurables. Oh, ridiculous. list. Let's say he's actually the list that's 6.5, 210.

Okay, so 6.5, he'd be 99th, 100th percentile for a corner. Yeah, I think of like Brandon Browner and... And then 2.10, he'd be 96th percentile. So, yeah, he'd basically just be the biggest corner that you've ever seen. The thing is, his best attribute, in my opinion, is his ability to cover as a nickel. And you said it with the NFL tight ends today. Like, I need somebody to cover name your tight end, Dalton Kincaid and guys like that. But you can't play today's nickel in the NFL without being an absolute lunatic in terms of physicality.

Yes. With the way teams are running and using their big wide ride receivers to crack, like you're just getting the absolute snot knocked out of you playing that position nowadays. It's become one of the hardest things to do in the NFL. So all that to say, I think we both saw eye to eye that this guy. has all of the tools. And it's an awesome start in terms of the ball production. Let's see how he can round out and grow the physical nature of his position.

All right, let's round out the live portion of the show. We'll get to the super chats in the after the episode portion of the program. Let's talk about what we're watching this weekend in college football. We've got some major matchups here. Texas plays Tennessee. Oklahoma plays Georgia. We talked a little bit about Ole Miss playing Florida, South Carolina, versus Alabama.

Clemson's playing Cal. Illinois's playing Ohio State. It's fun, man. Is there a specific- This is a good slate? Matchup that you got your eyes on? Yeah, I got a couple here. I mean, my shameless plug

is our NBC game because we got a good one Saturday night. We got Oregon at USC. Obviously, they're going head-to-head, but they're not actually facing each other. It's one of the funniest things when you see that time. No, they're going one-on-one, baby. One-on-one.

Hell on a cell. No, they're canceling the game. and they're just going to do a hit the moving target mini game like Madden O4 style of who wins between Dante Moore and Jaden Mayava. They freaking should. So this is a great opportunity for Dante Moore to remind everybody of who he is and reestablish Oregon who's had a bad start of the year. I mean, and then Mayava for them to kind of put behind that same old USC situation and cement themselves as a real playoff team this year. and for Maya Aba, who constantly gets labeled as that, like, boring day two quarterback prospect for him to be like, it's a big game and be about the moment. So I'm excited to watch both of these guys.

I got another one for you. And I know he's been a little banged up, but he had a really good week last week even in a loss. Mario Craver against LSU secondary. Speaking of Ty Benfield, if they play him in that role, he's going to have his hands full because we know Craver can absolutely fly. Yeah. after going 11 for 1119 and the loss of Kentucky. And then my last one. Wait, Craver had 11 and 1119 against Kentucky?

I'm pretty sure, yeah. And he had kind of had a slow start. Now, when you watch A&M, I mean, Marcel Reed is missing some throws that like, I mean, you just can't miss. I mean, he was missing them last year. And a lot of people just didn't want to talk about it. Because Texas A&M was just good as a football team.

So a lot of people were just like, oh, Marcel Reed's unfortunately had overall accuracy issues. And we talked about that when we talked about summer scouting with him as a potential NFL quarterback. And we talked about the major accuracy issues that felt like it was just not really talked about enough with him last year. And unfortunately, with Texas A&M not being as stacked of a football team this year, it's becoming more under the microscope. Definitely. So we'll see that match up. and then the last one I had written down was both the Michigan edge rushers

against Trevor Locke. Oh, yeah, baby. You know, you're going to see Dom Nichols and John Henry Daley, who kind of looks like himself again, by the way. Henry, Henry Daly does? Yeah, after coming off that Achilles. Hell yeah.

And Dom Nichols is pretty tough matchup as well. For Trevor Lough, this is a really good front that you're going to, You know, you want to answer the questions if you could stick a tackle, and I still believe he really can. This is a big test on the schedule. I know Michigan's had kind of a weird season so far, but their front is a lot to handle. South Carolina and Alabama really quick, like running through that one. I mean, you got a lot of names.

We mentioned Lenore Sellers already talked about on the show. Every game is a big game for Lenore Sellers, especially if you're playing against Alabama. Dylan Stewart played a little bit. it last week coming back from injury and the times that he was on the field. He was good. He was good, folks. And it was fun to watch him play. I hope he gets to play a full starting slate this upcoming week against Alabama.

We will see. Devin Tompkins is a senior edge rusher from Alabama that I was not aware of going into the season, but he's having a pretty good year. Him and Yons of Pierre, the edge rush duo there at Alabama. I think that that's going to be a fun one to watch. Florida and Old Miss. Obviously, Trinidad Chambliss. We mentioned what he could be this upcoming week, but, you know, it's a guy that he's

throwing to. It's Deuce Alexander. Maybe Kiwan Lacey, their running back play is not sure because he's coming off of injury. Will Eccles, specifically, you mentioned him going up against two guys that I've liked as I've watched him. Njee Harris, the Florida offensive guard and Harrison Moore, Florida Center, two guys. So I think I've had a really nice starts of the season who should be on the the draft radar a little bit.

Jaden Baugh, RB one in the class, obviously. Lakota Dupree is the best blocking tight end on Florida, maybe one of the best blocking tight ends in the country if you kind of continues to keep it up.

He's had a really hot start to the year. So that match up, so do you see that Florida's favorite in this game? No. Why is that? Now, I don't know if they're still favored. I don't know. Sully said three and a half points.

So Sully might be referencing the fact that somebody brought that to John Summerall's attention. And John Summerall says back to him at the press conference. He's like, who has his favorite over these guys? And the reporter was like, Vegas does. You know, like, yeah, and John Summerall just goes, there's a lot of good drugs out there. That's the right approach of you're the head coach. Yeah, you have to. You have to.

But somebody said they're still favored by three and a half. I don't know, man. Maybe this is just me being not cautiously optimistic, but I think people are going to realize how bad Florida's defense is this upcoming week. But hey, go Gators. Georgia plays Oklahoma. Huge game for John Matier because he just has not looked good to start this season. No.

David Stone, did you see that he had an injury in practice? I did not see that. He, I think, like, collided with a teammate. Oh, boy. And he had a knee injury in practice where he said he felt it pop. So they're listening to him questionable right now. But he was like walking around. So they're very careful with it, I'm sure.

But for Georgia, you know, Gunner Stockton, Nate Frazier, a buffet of tight ends, lost and lucky, Jaden Riddell, Ellis Williams, who's a 2028 guy, he's not eligible this year. but then on defense, you got Ellis Robinson, you got Chris Cole, you got KJ Bolden. I mean, those guys going up against John Mateer and Isaiah Satania, that's going to be a fun matchup. There, Texas and Tennessee, again, just a prospect, or a game that's littered with 2027 prospects. Mike Matthews from Tennessee, their wide receiver is a really good start to the year.

It's a scary game for Texas. I think there's their potential. Like they should win, but they should win. Tennessee has a lot of talent, and Texas can't give the UTSA. effort they just gave. I'll say that. David Sanders, the offensive tackle for Tennessee, he's not eligible this year, but next year. Oh my goodness, though. He's already looking real good. You watch like six plays, and you're like, that's what it's supposed to look like a tackle.

I mean, he might get a handful of reps against Colin Simmons. So this is going to be a fun matchup there in that regard. So Call and Clemson, you got William Help. Yes. government name versus Jimothy Lewis I mean all timer right here William Hell and Jimothy

versus Jimothy Lewis You gotta watch this one Nothing else but for the name recognition If you're watching it you got to take a picture of your TV and tweet it at us Yeah please I'm here for the William Jimothy matchup

I am seated for the William versus Jimothy It sounds like a golf outing The William Jimethe Golf Out. But they're just destroying each other on the gridiron. They are. You like that? Couldn't be different.

Oh, man. Amazing. No, I'm serious. If you guys are watching and listening to this show and you're watching this premier matchup, you take a picture of your TV and you tweet out us at NFLSE show at Tampa Bay Trey and OckC Rogers. I think it's a great way to end the show there. Big, big college football.

Saturday coming up. A lot of fun and movement up the draft boards. I think is in store for everybody. The next time that you will hear our voices will be on Monday for Monday show. And it's going to be a special one because it's going to be another mock draft edition of the show. So you will get our instant reactions to what we watch Saturday and everything that happens Saturday in the forum of a mock draft.

Obviously, we will update the draft order and it'll be fun because we're only three weeks in the NFL season. So who knows, like where teams are going to be in the draft order. So that's going to be a lot of fun. We're not going to do the Vegas thing. Why do the Vegas thing? I'm not going to do it. Let's just do the draft order as it is.

Right? It's perfect. I feel like that's the fun way to do it. Yes. The draft order changing is half the fun. I agree. I agree. And the other half of the fun is what's in store for you guys when we do the mock draft

episode. I almost forgot. Because behind the scenes, we have been building an NFL. S-E mock draft simulator that we are going to debut on the show on Monday that will very soon become available for all of you to be able to use. And I have been a part of many mock draft simulators in my time as a draft analyst. Draft Network, PFF. We've used so many different simulators here on the show over the course of the life of this show this simulator is sick i really feels like ours it it's it's going to be a draft addicts paradise you see the breaking news

i do see the breaking news from the chef saying that our draft simulator is it the best is the best sully said it's called the donguilator he's not wrong the d and mBS stands for donnulator And that's a joke that only really real NFLS-E addicts. So we can't wait to unveil it for you guys. We're still tinkering with it a little bit this weekend, getting it ready for you guys. But some addicts have seen it already. Some of the Ring of Honor and 500 Club members have seen a little bit. Finally, they're getting back on their investment.

They've been beta testing it for us and they've been giving us some good suggestions. So we'll be ready to unveil that for you on Monday. Like I said, we can't wait. We're super excited, not just to use it on the show, but also to give it to you guys because, man, this thing's a beauty. So make sure that you tune in. Monday show 3 p.m. Eastern, new mock draft episode. Connor, anything else before we get out of here and read these super chats?

No, stick around, of course, for the after the show. Super chats. Thanks so much, everybody, for joining us today. A lot of laughs, a lot of fun. And we really can't wait for this mock draft. I think you guys are going to be blown away. Hell yeah, maybe. I can't wait.

For the chef behind the scenes, making it all happen. For Connor Rogers, I'm Trevor Sikima saying, thank you so much for watching this. episode of the NFL Staggy Shane show. We'll see you guys on Monday.