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NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Early Wide Receiver Rankings For 2026 NFL Draft (Summer Scouting)
Episode Date: June 25, 20256:35 - Germie Bernard, Alabama 12:25 - Zachariah Branch, Georgia 18:50 - Bryce Lance, North Dakota State 24:35 - Dane Key, Nebraska 30:15 - Jaden Greathouse, Notre Dame 35:55 - Nyck Harbor, South Caro...lina 51:15 - Eric Rivers, Georgia Tech 57:10 - Nic Anderson, LSU 1:01:00 - Malachi Fields, Notre Dame 1:07:40 - Elijah Sarratt, Indiana 1:12:30 - Kevin Concepcion, Texas A&M 1:16:15 - Chase Roberts, BYU 1:20:35 - Deion Burks, Oklahoma 1:25:15 - Antonio Williams, Clemson 1:32:20 - Eric Singleton Jr, Auburn 1:38:45 - Denzel Boston, Washington 1:44:00 - Makai Lemon, USC 1:50:30 - Carnell Tate, Ohio State 1:56:40 - Eugene Wilson III, Florida 2:01:40 - Jordan Tyson, Arizona State
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Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast.
Trevor Sick of the Connor Rogers here with you guys for another episode of Summer Scouting,
a very exciting one.
Connor, we've got everybody in for this one.
We've got the draft fans.
We've got the loyal addicts.
We've got the fantasy football people.
We've got the Debbie community here. I mean, we've got the loyal addicts, we've got the fantasy football people, we've got the devy community here.
I mean, we've got basically everybody.
This is a fan, the wide receiver episode
is a family reunion episode.
It's a barbecue out back.
We got the grill rolling, the kids are in the pool,
the beers are ice cold.
It's a fantastic time.
There's some weird uncles around.
There's definitely some weird uncles around
that keep saying stuff around the kids and you're like
Can you not say that around the kids?
That's what the wide receiver episode brings in. Yeah, sure
You could have gone D1 if you didn't have elbow tendonitis after playing tennis one summer sure
Yeah, that knee injury and they don't ever say what the injury was just a bad knee
dude, this is always a lot of fun because just like we have done through every single
summer scouting episode, I don't know which guys you are watching.
You don't know which guys I'm watching.
Generally we watch the same players, but you and I don't have a text thread going over
the last week, week and a half or two weeks that we've been watching this.
So wide receiver specifically, there's so many different ways to win at the position.
You could prioritize shiftyness and separation.
You could prioritize the alpha on the line of scrimmage X guys.
Maybe the guys that are those move players, a little bit of the in between,
a little bit of in and out. Maybe you prioritize that versatility.
And so to come up with a top 15, which we are going to give you guys here today,
it could be all over the place.
So I've watched 24 of these guys so far
to get them into the mock draft simulator.
I'd like to get to 30 by the time
we get to college football kickoff.
So you guys, please comment any players that we missed
that you would love to see in the mock draft simulator
when we get to that point.
But yeah, there's just a lot of different players
in this class and it might not be as strong at the top as we've seen in different years, but boy it feels pretty deep this year.
I thought the same thing. I didn't come away with the take of this class right now that there is this wide receiver that you could see being a top 5 to 10 pick and that can change. That's why a lot of these guys are younger players.
Some of them are looking for the level of targets that allows
them to show they can carry an offense.
A lot of transfers where guys are looking to kind of be unlocked
in a new offense or with a new quarterback.
But you are right, Trevor.
I thought honestly, the depth once again is really, really
good. I got eyes on 19 players
I felt comfortable with a full watch and write-up of 16. We are gonna do 15 today. There's three
Outside of the 16 that I've seen but I'm just not comfortable ranking yet that I'll mention and shout out at the end of the show
But it feels like there's a big pack that can be kind of stuck together.
If you were ranking the top 100 players in the draft, the wide receiver three in this
class can be pretty close to the wide receiver nine is kind of how it can go.
So it's going to be a fun group to break down with all kinds of different sizes, athletic
attributes and of course different varying degrees of production so far.
I think wide receivers seven through 17 or 18,
I might have a third or a fourth round grade on.
Like, that's kind of where the things are going.
Middle of the pack wide receivers.
Yeah, there's just so many different guys who are there
who it's like, okay, I think you're good.
Do you have a separating trade?
Do you have something to put you over the top?
And if you don't, I think you're kind of like
within that cluster.
So I'll let you kick it off.
Let's do like we always do.
Let's do increments of five to start this thing out.
Then when we get up into the top five,
we'll spend a little bit more time on those players
that we have in the top five of that ranking,
leading up to number one.
So 15 through 11, who you got here?
Number 15 for me, this is a giant projection player. I'm excited to talk about him with you. Eugene Wilson, the
third from Florida, his his dad, one two Super Bowls with the Patriots. So there's some bloodlines here. We'll have a conversation about him, of course.
14, Jeremy Bernard at Alabama.
It is spelled G-E-R-M-I-E.
It is Jeremy Bernard.
Definitely a unique spelling of that, of course.
That leads me to number 13, Nick Harbor from South Carolina.
Everybody's favorite EA CFB freak show in terms of six, five, almost 240 pounds,
insane speed.
We haven't gotten the production from him that we're hoping for.
And that's why he's at 13 for me, where if you asked two years ago, you could see Nick
Harbor maybe being a guy that is a, you know, a top five prospect in this class.
He hasn't gotten there yet.
Let's see if he could do it this year.
Number 12, Elijah Sirot from Indiana.
Their big bodied possession, alpha wide receiver.
Obviously he's gonna get to play with Fernando Mendoza
this year in that Indiana offense.
A lot of people have eyes on this connection.
And then 11, Zakaria Branch, who is now at Georgia transferring
from USC, another guy with a lot of hype and expectations looking to blossom in a
new offense. Okay, so we have two that I think are in the same realm here. I think
it's Zachariah. I think Zachariah is how you say his name. But Zachariah branch, I have at 14 and then I have Jeremy Bernard at 13.
So I have, I have both of those guys there.
We have those guys similarly here in our rankings. Um,
let's start with one of those guys because then we'll hit the other ones,
I think in different conversations, but which one do you want to start with?
You want to start with Bernard? Do you want to start with branch?
Let's start with branch here. Yeah, let me pull them up in my notes.
This is a deep spreadsheet of wide receivers.
Obviously, every year there's so many. So 6129 pounds.
Bernard's bounced around, started at Michigan State, was at Washington.
He's found success at Alabama, of all places.
Now, senior wide receiver. It's a decent size, 6'1", 209.
Last year, 50 catches, almost 800 yards, only two touchdowns.
To me, Trevor, he is a guy in this group that
he doesn't really have special physical traits,
but he is just a very reliable zone eater, is what he is in this offense to me.
Like I was impressed with his ability to attack coverages,
sit in the soft spot of zone,
and finish plays with reliable hands.
I don't think you're looking for him
to take the top off of defense.
I don't think you're looking for him to be a special creator
with the ball in his hands,
but I just thought he was a high IQ player
that is now entering his senior year
and understands what the defense will give him
and how to attack that. So
nothing overwhelming in terms of physical ability but I think this is somebody that can easily be a
wide receiver four wide receiver three in an NFL offense one day because of the IQ and reliability
he plays with. I think coaches will really really like him and it's clear why Alabama
not only went out and got him in the portal a year ago,
but utilized him right away in a way that two other team programs were not able to.
Yeah. So I have my wide receiver rankings in a little bit more detail.
And here I have them in an overall top 15 because I think that that's what's most digestible.
And people sort of know those linear rankings.
So I have them in a top 15.
But really, what I think matters more is I have the receiver
position broken up into three different categories, X receivers, Z receivers or flankers, and
then slot receivers.
So it's a little bit of an interesting conversation in today's football because slot receiver,
to me, I categorize slot receivers as guys who are only going to play in the slot.
Because you can't exactly say that because like,
Mike Evans plays in the slot, right?
Like Julio Jones played in the slot.
You know, like a lot of times, like CD Lam obviously plays
a lot in the slot and like CD Lam,
I wouldn't call him a slot receiver.
I would call CD Lam a Z.
I'd call him a flanker because he does really great work when he's off the line scrimmage. You can put him in motion, all that kind of stuff.
Mike Evans, Mike Evans is successful from the slot of the bucks align him in the slot for
mismatch purposes, but he is an X receiver. And so when I categorize a guy as a slot player,
it's basically, I don't really think that they can play on the outside.
Why? Because one, either they don't have the measurables for it. I don't think they're going to be able to hold up against consistent press
coverage when they're lined up on the line of scrimmage.
Cause those X receivers will line up on the outside on the line of scrimmage,
or I don't think they can be an outside receiver because I don't think they
have the vertical speed to consistently threaten up the sideline because that also go in,
goes into it. In my opinion,
you have to have one of those two traits to be categorized as an outside wide
receiver. If you were a bigger,
stronger on the line of scrimmage, if contested catches is your game,
if you are a better blocker,
if you know how to get off of press with strength more than speed, okay, I'm probably gonna categorize you as an X
wide receiver. Are you that red zone threat that go up and get it above the
rim type of guy? That's what you are. If you are an outside wide receiver and you
win maybe a little bit less there but you have a little bit more
quickness to you, a little bit more route versatility, you can still threaten
vertically up the field but you'll also be a player that's used as a motion player before the snap as maybe a wide
receiver reverse type of a player, a guy who is in motion and either stops after their motion or
continues to at the snap. Like that is a flanker type of a receiver. You can have success on the
left and the right side of the line of scrimmage. But I also think that you have that vertical speed to be a traditional outside
receiver if you are asked to do so. So that's a Z.
That's how I can categorize a Z receiver. And then like I said,
a slot guy is somebody who I think for whatever reason,
one way or the other or both, really,
I just don't think they could primarily be on the outside.
Does that mean they're ever going to, they're never going to line up on the outside?
No, but it's really just where I see these guys' strengths.
So all of that to say, Jeremy Bernard I have as a Z.
I have him as a flanker wide receiver.
He is wide receiver one, two, three, four, five.
I think he is Z receiver number five for me here.
And the reason why is because I think he brings
a lot of versatility to him
370 snaps in the slot last year
368 outside so almost dead even with what he plays in the slot versus what he does in the outside
I agree with you completely though. I don't think he has these special athletic traits
I don't think he's this big take the top off of the defense type of a wide receiver
But he is really solid and I think he's specifically solid in the intermediate areas of the field.
And he can get to that intermediate area, whether he's playing in the slot or
whether he's coming from the from the outside in as an outside sideline
receiver to start things off.
So I agree.
I think he lives in the middle of the field.
He's not a special athlete.
He's kind of high cut in his build, which makes change of direction a little bit more difficult for him. But I think he is solid.
I think it's a really good way that you put it. A wide receiver for a wide receiver three.
I think he's just a reliable guy who knows where to be, especially in the intermediate
parts of the field. So Jeremy Bernard, I had his 13th in my rankings here, but I had him as actually wide receiver for wide receiver for for that slanker for that flanker z
position
Zakari, uh, Zachariah branch. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so branch for me was 11 and
This is a weird one because I I
From the little lot not little the times
I've watched USC and focused on him,
because there's big expectations for him, for sure,
especially with the flashes and stuff,
diving into the tape, I was a little disappointed,
and I know I haven't met Eleven,
which in this wide receiver class isn't bad at all,
and he's gonna have an opportunity at Georgia,
which, looking at how they deployed
their wide receivers last year,
we obviously got really down to the tape
to watch multiple wide receiver prospects they had.
This fit makes a ton of sense to me.
I expected a little bit more as a pure wide receiver on this tape.
The good is he's quick.
He's agile.
The short and intermediate separation skills are obvious.
He's small, though.
I mean, he's listed five, 10,", 180 and he is an undersized guy.
It goes back to your conversation like this is probably a slot receiver at the next level.
I think with the ball in his hands, he's got really good vision.
He put in perspective 390 of his 500 receiving yards last year were after the catch.
Yes.
But the thing with that is this is like the average depth of target was very, very low.
He's a small wide receiver that mostly plays in the slot.
A lot of his production comes out of the slot.
He's not a contested catch guy.
When things get congested,
I mean, two of 10 in 2024.
Like when he's in traffic, it's not pretty.
Why I'm still a believer is,
number one, he does have athletic traits
in terms of that short area quicks.
Did you mention the track background too?
I didn't get into that, no.
Cool.
So he won the state championship in the 100 meter,
in the 200 meter, and in a long jump.
He had a 10, three, three hundred meter dash, a 21,01 in the 200 meter and a 24
foot long jump.
This kid is very athletically gifted when it comes to what he can do.
Top speed and explosiveness.
100%.
The only thing I'm growing, not growing frustrated,
but noticing, because I have guys ahead of him
that have a very similar story to just what you just said,
like state record in the 100 or top level production
on the, in a, like when you have a track body
still playing football as trying to be an NFL prospect,
that's, that's hard.
Right.
This was an Arian Smith issue last year.
It's an issue for a lot of small receivers.
It's like, yeah, it's great.
You have a track background, but you still look like a track runner.
And it's very hard to not be one dimensional on the football field
from an NFL perspective if you if you can't overcome that.
But Branch is a really good athlete.
He's an excellent punt returner.
When you go back to 2023, he returned 16 punts for 332 yards, brought one back to the house.
So that's a special team skill
that I think is really, really important.
Is there a world where if his breakout in Georgia,
can he try to be this Zay Flowers light?
That's what you want from Branch, in my opinion,
in terms of usage and production.
Because after the catch, he's impressive.
I think he can get away from defenders
in the short and intermediate area. But why he can get away from defenders in the short and
intermediate area.
But why he didn't crack my top 10 is this is somebody to me.
That's just he's just small and he plays small right now and
it led to limitations.
Yeah, he feels like a player who and I had him 14 overall
and as a slot receiver, which I agree with you completely.
I view him as a slot only type of receiver.
I have him as slot receiver number four.
And that even, I was surprised that I was sort of like that high on him,
but you just can't teach how athletically gifted this guy is.
And he is, let's remember, only a true junior, right?
He has only played those two years at USC. And as
I don't, I don't mean this to be like big shade on, on Lincoln Riley, but Lincoln Riley's trying to
win college football games, man. Like Lincoln Riley is not necessarily like, Hey, we've got to develop
you as much as we possibly can for the NFL game. And to me, when I watch Zachariah Branch, I watch a player that is clearly the
accolades speak for themselves how gifted he is as a track athlete. He looks like a seven on seven
wide receiver. Yeah. Like that's how he plays. He plays like I'm going to beat you with speed
and that's it. Like even after the catch, obviously he was great after the catch, but it's not like he's
breaking ankles with his routes before the ball's in his hands.
He's not.
And I wish that he did that.
And it's sort of like we need to take the next couple of years for Zachariah Branch
and say, utilize that speed that you prioritize after the catch.
You've got to be able to do that before you get the ball. Like you, we're going to talk about a
couple of wide receivers here where even if you're not the most athletic player in the world, if you
know how to tempo your routes, if you know how to tempo your speed, you can create separation. You
can win at the position. And Zachariah branch has all of the athletic ability in the world
To be unbelievable at that and he just he doesn't have that feel for zone
He just has one speed the second he gets the ball in his hands
I'm running as fast as I possibly can and we just we need to
Hone that in a little bit more with him because the potential is through the roof, but I agree with you
sometimes in a little bit more with him because the potential is through the roof. But I agree with you. Sometimes the guys feel like they're still running.
They're still wearing their track leaps when they're, when they put the helmet on.
And that's how it feels for Zachariah branch.
He feels like a track athlete who's, who's trying to play football out there.
So, um,
was your, uh, 15 to 11 or any, any surprises here?
Yeah.
So my 15 to 11. I've got Jaden
Graterhouse from Notre Dame. I have him at number 15. A player who I really like.
I don't know if he made your top 15 but I'll talk about him if not. Zachariah
Branch I had at 14. Jeremy Bernard I had at 13. Bryce Lance the wide receiver from
North Dakota State. I have him at 12. I did not watch him. And then Dane Key, I have at number 11.
So 11 and 12 I did not watch.
Oh, you didn't watch Key either?
No.
Okay, all right.
So I will get into Lance.
And as I'm pulling up his scouting report here,
Anthony Russo, who has been following the podcast for a long time, he was the one who
actually put him on my radar because I tweeted out from the Stock Exchange account, I was
like, hey, we're not doing a podcast this week.
We're trying to watch as many guys as possible.
Who do we really need to get eyes on?
And he said, he said Bryce Lance.
He said he's wide receiver one.
Obviously I don't have him wide receiver one, but he does have some fun tape.
There are sometimes when you watch
these North Dakota state guys,
especially the ones that are future NFL dudes,
and you go, okay, you're clearly just dominating
competition levels that probably won't translate to the NFL.
But we could start with him.
We could start with Bryce Lance
and I could hit him and Dan Key pretty quickly.
Anthony always has really good recommendations.
Like he's in the trenches, he's in the weeds of scouting.
Anthony's absolutely, he's an addict.
He is in the weeds of scouting, there's no doubt about it.
So Bryce Lance, North Dakota State, Redshirt Jr.
If the last name sounds familiar,
yes, your memory serves you correctly.
He is the older brother of Trey Lance.
And so he's got the NFL bloodlines.
I'll call him NFL bloodlines. Yeah, I'll do it. Sure. I'll do it. Number three overall
picking the draft. You can't take that away from him. No, you can't. So he is the brother
of Trey Lance. Bryce was a three star recruit, committed to North Dakota State. Redshirted his first year, basically played special teams in 2022 and 2023 exclusively.
And then last year was his first year as a full-time starter.
He started 13 of 16 games and he looked excellent.
He looked like the best wide receiver on the team.
And there are, he was, he was wildly impressive.
I'm very excited to see him again, to see if he could stack really good years together
because there's a lot to like about what he put on the table in just
one year as a starter. So six foot three, 209 pounds.
I have him listed as an ex receiver. They'll play him in the slot.
They'll play him as a move a little bit, but he can do the ex receiver things.
And I think his limitations vertically are also why I kind of wanted to
categorize him as an ex receiver. So six foot three, 209 pounds.
That's 81st percentile and 68th percentile.
When you look at what he does very well catches the football.
Number one job of a wide receiver is what catch the ball and
whether it is the catchable passes caught category or contested catch categories is above 50% in
Contested catch percentage and he was above
96% in catchable passes caught that's exactly what you want to see from a player like that to me
I feel like the top speed from him is average to below average
It feels like he struggles to separate versus the level of competition that he's playing at now that only is going to get much
More difficult in the NFL. So I believe that his speed is average to below average is why I have
him outside of my top 10 and he has a low separation score at least he did in 2024 against single
coverage because of that. Now he is one of those players who I was talking about earlier. You don't
have to be the fastest guy in the world to create some of that little
I'll even just call it throwing windows, maybe not even separation.
He is excellent tempoing his releases. He is calculated with his footwork releases.
He is calculated with how he is running his routes, when he is running full speed,
when he is throttling down, that allows him to sit in his soft spots of zones.
It allows him to get just a little bit of separation to create that throwing window,
to go up and get it with his bigger size
because he's got a little bit more of a slender build to him.
He showed up big in the biggest games, I thought,
for North Dakota State.
Some of his highest receiving grades came
against South Dakota State in that rivalry game
and against Montana State in the championship game.
So you love that about him.
And then those two years of him predominantly playing special teams has given him really good and consistent blocking technique, which is again what you want to see from an X type of receiver.
So things to like about Trey, Trey Lance's younger brother. I think he is certainly an NFL prospect in his own right. I don't think he is going to get drafted ahead of Trey Lance who went number three overall But I do think that he has got a shot to stick at the nfl level any thoughts any comments there with Bryce Lance before?
I move on to Dan Keefe. It'll be interesting to see if he has a big enough year that
He decides to declare because he's a true junior. I believe right. No, he's red shirt, Jr. Red shirt, Jr. Okay
Typically, he's probably gone
Okay, probably leaving it usually the North Dakota State guys don't. That's what's interesting to me. They usually they usually ride out like as many years as they can get a ton of snaps go through the senior ball circuit. Not saying that he has to follow the same pathway as all those guys, but no, no, he is a redshirt senior. I got that wrong. Oh, he is?
I read that wrong.
So last year was his only year
of actually playing in the offense.
Correct, yes.
And then this next year will be it for him.
Yeah. Okay.
Really interesting player to watch.
Well, I don't know.
People are getting eligibility out of nowhere.
That's true.
You could never be certain for any of this.
It's amazing. I don't know.
You know, like, oh, I was, you know,
I was late to practice
one day and so I got to get another year. Wait until we do safeties. You got it. You
got the first time the first time for time member of summer scouting for I am getting
I am custom making an NFL SE NFL jersey with Jalen Catalans name and number on it
Yep, and I'm somehow gonna get him to sign it. Oh
Yes, we've got to do it. So anyways, yes, he this is his last year here, but okay if he can string together two years
I mean, it's it'll be very interesting for him. Yeah
Dane key
So key I have just ahead of Bryce Lance as wide receiver five for X receivers.
I have him wide receiver 11 overall.
He is a senior.
He is a true senior.
He is at Nebraska this year after spending the last three seasons at Kentucky.
He is listed at six foot three, 210 pounds.
So again, 81st percentile and 70th percentile,
very similar to what Bryce Lance was listed at. He was a four star wide
receiver coming out of Lexington, Lexington, Kentucky. He was the, you
know, high school football player of the year in the state of Kentucky. He
was also a center fielder on the baseball team for three seasons while
playing high school. So he's got that multi sport background to him. You'll
love to see it. Pete Carroll paying attention. Uh, he committed to
Kentucky, the hometown team from Lexington, Kentucky, uh, committed to
Lexington played in 12 games and started 12 games as a true freshman in 2023,
started 12 games again in, or sorry, 2022 started 12 games again in 2023. Uh,
and then the same thing started 11 games in 2024. I gotta think that he transferred just cuz maybe he just wanted to change
a scenery at that point.
I mean, he was a Kentucky legend.
He's been Kentucky the whole time.
Maybe he just didn't think the passing off it's because I mean, let's face it.
And maybe NIL goes into it but also Nebraska's got Dylan Riola.
And he is seen as a potential first round pick in the 2027 draft.
So perhaps he wanted to after three years in Kentucky hitch his wagon to a different quarterback in a different passing offense to help his NFL stock.
So maybe that is the reason why his father, Dante Key, played linebacker at Kentucky for four years in the 90s.
His brother Devin played at Western Kentucky.
And then I spent a little time in the NFL with the Chiefs, the Falcons, and the Denver Broncos as well. So he's
got some NFL bloodlines to him. Big dude as an ex-receiver you know what he brings
to the table. Big frame that looks like he can hold even more weight. I mean he
looks big and he looks kind of slender even right now so thinking about him
being at 210 you could probably get him up to 220 comfortably in my opinion and
he can play even stronger on the line of scrimmage than he does now, which is already a pretty good baseline.
I think that for as much as I categorize him as an ex,
Kentucky moved him all over the place.
They played him in the slot.
They'd make him a move receiver.
Very clearly, he was the go-to guy in that passing offense.
So he's got experience playing all three receiver spots, pretty solid,
catchable passes caught and contested catch percentages
throughout his entire career, which is three years as a starter.
Now, he's got a little bit more wiggle and savviness to his
routes than you would think for a big man.
And so watching his film just is very, very intriguing.
And I can't wait to see him in Nebraska's offense.
Hopefully, they'll be able to open it up a little bit more
for him.
High potential as a run blocker given the size and given the strength.
He's not a super explosive player.
Again, that's why I think I categorize him more as an X because I think it leans
into he's a stronger player than he is an explosive player.
Kind of struggles to get off press with a little bit of that lack of quickness if
he's not able to impose his will with that strength there.
And then just because there's a little bit of athletic limitations,
there's some lack of yak that's in his game.
He's just not going to be a yards after catch guy.
What you see is what you get when you throw the ball to the spot,
you're hoping that he just catches it and comes down with it.
That's really what you want.
And so it's a little bit of a lower ceiling in terms of that dynamic ability
there for him, but love the multi-sport background from him.
Love the fact that he's already got a lot of production as an underclassman and through his junior
year hopefully we just get to see more of it and hopefully more explosive plays
for him because right now I think it's a really solid baseline I think he could
be you know I think that he's an early day three wide receiver right now it's
just a matter of does he crack that top 100 does he get into the second round
can he raise his stock a little bit higher if the offense is a little bit
more dynamic for him especially as you mentioned in that
offense that you would think is going to try to push the ball down the field or
at least be willing to throw this year because of who they have under center.
And of course, hopefully their offensive line development, allowing them to do
that as well. So I didn't get to watch key, but I am excited to see kind of,
because you mentioned how Kentucky used them.
I'm kind of excited to see if Nebraska goes the same route.
And even if they don't,
just the fact that he could be a true X.
So did you watch Greater House?
I did.
I watched both Notre Dame wide receivers.
Oh, both.
I only watched one.
Who's the other one?
They got a transfer coming into their program this year
that I think is better.
Who? Wait, who?
Malachi Fields.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
I also watched Malachi Fields.
Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
He's at Notre Dame.
He is, you're right.
I totally, I totally forgot.
Cause I just Virginia, like I just had in my head.
Yeah, I know.
And he's been at Virginia for four years, I think.
I know he has.
It is kind of, it's going to be weird.
I didn't, I don't have him ranked above greater house.
Interesting. I had it the other way.
He didn't make my top 15.
Okay.
But Malachi was one of those guys where the first game
that I watched, I was like,
I could see people being higher on much higher on him
than I am.
And if they are, they'll list a bunch of stuff off of why they like him and
I'll go, all right, yeah, sure.
Yeah, okay.
I see it.
I see it. Is he in your top 10?
You have in top 10?
He is. He's nine for me.
Okay. Okay.
Yeah. So it's not like I have him like third, but let's wait.
Yep. Let's talk great.
Great house first.
Yeah, I want to hear,
I want to hear your breakdown on them.
Cause I have him 15.
And then we do have to talk about Nick Harbor.
I have Nick Harbor 17.
You had him, what like 14, 13.
Yeah, right around there.
Had something like that.
So we do have to have the Nick Harbor conversation.
Have to.
Jayden great house.
I have him as slot receiver number five,
overall wide receiver number 15
Man I wanted to like this guy more like there
I remember watching him live and the last two games that they played in the college well playoff in the national championship
He was so clutch for them, and I was like this dude. I actually Connor. I remember
Watching those games live.
And we had at that point in time, shoot, that was January.
That was January.
And I was like, we had done a lot of wide receiver rankings.
And I said to myself, it's like, damn it, do I have to watch somebody else?
Like is this guy draft eligible?
I was a true sophomore, right?
But he was, yeah, I looked it up and Or is it true sophomore, right? But he was.
Yeah, I looked it up, and he was a true sophomore.
Which is impressive.
I wasn't watching him for last year's class.
But so I have him as a slot receiver,
and that's where I think he's going
to play at the NFL level.
6'1", 210 pounds.
So 210 pounds, normally when you talk about slot receivers,
you talk about guys who are around, like, I don't know,
180, 185, 190, 195, something like that.
He's 210 pounds.
I mean, this dude's got some beef going for a slot receiver.
He is dense, there's no doubt about it.
Three star wide receiver in the 2023 recruiting class,
played at Westlake High School,
the famed Westlake High School.
Of course.
Multi-sport athlete, not only did he play football,
but he also played basketball,
averaged more than 13 points per game as a junior, by the way,
and was a state runner-up during his sophomore season.
Won three state titles with Westlake,
and he was the 2021 state championship offensive MVP,
236 receiving yards, which was a state record for the championship game.
So an accomplished high school athlete all around.
Started five games as True Freshman,
started 11 games last year.
His mother played basketball at UC Santa Barbara.
His father played football at Washington State,
and his uncle Oscar played defensive line,
or sorry, is the defensive line coach
for the University of Wyoming.
So football and athletic ability all over this family.
I think that this guy is such a smart wide receiver.
And the reason why I think he's a slot is because I think he just lacks the overall
athleticism to threaten vertically. I really do. Like outside of getting space in the slot
and being able to hit in between the linebacker and safety levels on those seam passes, outside
of that vertically, you're not going to get him to play on the outside, whether it's on or off the
line of scrimmage and threaten vertically. He's
just not going to be that consistent threat so I don't think he's gonna be
an outside wide receiver. Really low separation scores because of that lack
of vertical speed and that lack of threat that he puts on those quarterbacks
or those cornerbacks and that stress there but there's a lot to like outside
of that. I think he really knows how to attack zone coverages, he knows how to
sit down in between zones.
Despite being a slot receiver and only six foot one man, he can climb the ladder and attack the balls in the air.
I love when slot receivers are also great contested catch receivers because when
you are playing in the slot, everybody thinks, Oh, a slot receiver,
a small dude, a super shifty dude, a super explosive dude. a super explosive dude but maybe you know they're giving up some strength when
they get hit they'll go flying whatever when you play in the slot you are closer
towards the middle of the field yes track guess what's in the middle of the
field linebackers seeking miss offenders safety's all of these dudes are in
dropping linebacker or dropping edge rushers. Like you have to be able to take
contact as well. And Jayden great house does that very well
really reliable hands, elite catching percentages on
catchable passes and just contested catches. I mean, this
dude, I think plays at a very high IQ level plays with more
strength than you would expect from the slot receiver
Reminded me a lot of Khalil Shakir and how much Khalil Shakir is having success
Because he is not the best vertical. He doesn't have the best vertical speed. He's not a burner He's not even the shifty is dude, but man is he reliable?
He's smart. He knows how to get off the line scrimmage
He knows where to be and he's gonna catch the damn football.
And that is Jaden Greathouse as well.
So just limited athlete, but a lot to like outside of that.
So this is a player that I kinda wanted to put higher in the rankings.
I just couldn't just because of that athletic limitation that he has.
We haven't watched tight ends in offensive line yet, but-
You got him in tight ends.
But the, I think you'd be 240.
But man, the Fighting Irish skill players,
that's a good looking group.
Yeah.
That's a real good looking group.
And you have the best back in the country,
and you got two wide receivers that are physical.
Yeah, it's a really good looking group.
Who's quarterback for them this year?
I don't even know.
It's so funny, somebody just asked me this the other day
at like a work thing,
because obviously, NBC, we do a ton of Notre Dame.
And I was-
CJ Carr.
I had the same freeze.
I was like, they didn't make any big splash.
Is he related to Derek Carr?
There's no way. He is the
grandson of Derek Carr of Lloyd Carr. The Michigan legend.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Whoa. Okay. Alright. I like
the heel turn by CJ. I was gonna say goes to Notre Dame. I
like it. I like the heel turn. The future I was gonna say goes to Notre Dame. I like they I like the heel turn the future is now
Oh, man, and he's got he's got the the one all-around haircut. This guy's a stone-cold killer. Does he yeah
He's the barber chair and just goes one all-around
Wow, all right. Yeah, you see it. Okay. Okay, uh Nick Harbor. Are we talking Nick Harbor next sure
Because we have to,
because I think perception and reality
are just two totally different things.
Yeah, go ahead and start.
I feel like I'm done.
It's a grim open, but sorry.
Nick Harbor, Dalton Waschman,
my co-host at the PFF NFL show,
he said that
Lenore Sellers and Nick Harbor are
First team or preseason first team all in theory like all the all-idea
Disrespectful yet. They are though yet true take yet. No, it's
It's weird right because I think we are obviously very in the weeds of this, and I think everybody that listens to this show
this time of year is too.
And I don't tweet as much as I used to,
but I definitely will scroll the timeline
every now and then.
And perception and reality is, it's fascinating,
especially in scouting.
Harbor definitely falls into that bucket off of and this
happens. This has been happening since, you know, the dinosaurs
were on Earth where recruiting profiles carry a reputation for
you for years.
Harbor. Is 65 to 36.
He might be bigger right now, like if he's 240 of muscle, I
wouldn't be surprised.
He's an alien, man.
He is an alien.
He's a true junior wide wide receiver at South Carolina,
that to put it in perspective,
he was a two-time Gatorade Player of the Year
in both football and track.
If you do it once in one sport, that is iconic.
They never give it to juniors.
They never give it to juniors.
So I think I've told this briefly on the pod
so I won't be long with it.
When I worked at Bleacher Report very, very early on,
this is about nine years ago now,
one of my first projects I was involved with
was the Gatorade Player of the Year.
I'd go out to do some content around it.
So I've been to a couple of them around the country.
And yeah, it was seniors every single time.
Every single time.
Because they want to reward, you know, seniors,
understandably. Of course, of course.
Nick Harbor was a two-time Gatorade player of the year
in two different sports.
Like, do you realize how out of this world you have to be?
There is no way anyone's ever done that before.
I would be pretty forward.
He has to be the one and only.
He has to be the one and only.
So in football, he played obviously offense.
I believe he was technically a tight end.
He was a tight end.
A tight end in high school because of the size,
but he was also a really good defensive end.
Correct.
Which is gonna open another conversation here in a moment.
He was listed as an edge rusher for 247.
And even when he committed to South Carolina, they didn't know what he was going to play.
Yeah. Right.
And obviously in track in DC, he was the record holder for both the 100 and 200.
I think he's still the record holder for the 200 as it stands today.
Somebody beat him in the 100. I I go I went down a long track
Database and I looked I could be wrong, but I thought he only showed up in the 200 right now
But either way did you list the times that he ran? No
Do you have those offhand? I don't brother. He's six foot five over 200 pounds and he ran a ten
two eight six foot five over 200 pounds and he ran a 10 to eight.
What did Tyree Kill just run like two weeks ago?
Oh man. Like a 10 one five
or something?
Maybe.
And he's talking about racing Noah Lyles.
You are a fraction off of Tyree Kill and Noah Lyles.
As an oversized high schooler.
Six foot two six foot five over two hundred and twenty pounds.
Yeah. What are we talking about?
So what's even more wild, although maybe not surprising.
Did you read about his father?
No. Oh, his father is the most it for all of the interesting aspects of Nick Harbor, his size, his speed...
No, his dad was on the US national team, wasn't he?
Yes, his dad played 15 games on the US national soccer team.
He was drafted in the MLS, played in the MLS.
Do you know what his dad decided to do after soccer?
No.
He's an engineer for NASA. Like this, these genes are limitless.
Nick Carver might be president one day.
I mean, or even bigger.
He might cure cancer.
I don't know.
All I'm saying is that out of this world, his father,
Azuka, who also, I believe believe was working in a lab and wasn't playing
soccer and then was discovered if i have this right playing soccer somewhere in like a lower league
like for fun and ended up in the mls because he was just so good and then he was really good he
was on the u.s national team these these these might be the greatest genes on the US national team. These these these might be
The greatest genes on the planet the most gifted human beings of all time. Yeah, maybe he left us soccer
Maybe it's like maybe it's like a superman story, you know, like a smallville story where it's like, oh, you know
Like greater good, you know like this this this alien spaceship crashes onto earth and here's this like kid and then you know He gets raised by this family and so maybe his dad's like Oh, I was playing soccer
But I got to join NASA because I got to figure out where this alien kid came from that just ran a 10 to 8
100 meter dash at 6 foot 5 225 pounds
maybe that's what it is and
Shout out to Nick for while he's you know
We hope he becomes the football player that we think he can become and we'll have that combo in a second.
He's been SEC all on a roll both years.
He seems awesome.
He is incredibly, incredibly bright and hyper aware.
And so not only did he get the dad's athletic traits,
he got the NASA engineer brains as well, it appears.
As a football, Yeah, go ahead.
Just shout out to Shane Beamer. Like Shane's got a hell of a
program in South Carolina. Oh my goodness. I mean, like, dude,
the guy, I mean, you talk about, I felt like that was, I felt
like South Carolina had the best defensive line in the country
last year. They had one of the most talented defenses,
especially when you throw in like Jalen Kilgore, Nicky
Manwari.
The edge draw, Kyle Canard.
I mean Kyle Canard's in there, but like even outside of the defensive line, Demetrius Knight, like Deebo Williams, like all of these, I mean like I felt like they were one of the best
defense in the country and yet like on the offensive side of the ball, they're getting
the craziest freak athlete of all time in Nick Harbor. They've got Lenora Sellers as well.
Like it's just, they've had Xavier LeGette in past years.
They have just done, he's done an unbelievable job
with that program.
So it just like South Carolina has been so impressive to me.
Like the guys that we have talked about
from South Carolina's program over the last couple of years.
Now to the football with Harbor,
and it's only been two years,
so I want to be really careful here because player development, you know, goes in a lot of different directions
and his best football certainly should be ahead of him.
Watching him as a wide receiver with his unique combination of size, speed,
the catch radius is alien levels.
I don't know if I've seen a human with this level of catch radius.
He's just not a wide receiver right now.
He's a total project.
He's sluggish off the line of scrimmage.
He's not a good route runner.
He doesn't really understand how to attack coverages.
He hasn't had a lot of, like last year,
he had 26 catches for 376 yards in his sophomore season.
He's a total project at wide receiver right now,
where it kind of left me sitting there going
Should he have been a defensive end because he's got the size and traits and length
Where I hope he breaks out this year, and I hope he really takes off
But as a prospect why he was outside my top 10 and dangerously close to being outside my top 15.
And if I honestly, if I get through more guys
by the end of summer, like if I bumped these numbers up
from 19 to 25, I don't think he'd be in my top 15.
He just doesn't know how to play the position right now,
Trevor.
And it could be tough to watch at times.
Which is understandable, right?
Given the fact that you mentioned it.
He is only going into his true junior season
and he did not play wide receiver in high school.
He played tight end defense.
Exactly, he played on the line of scrimmage a lot.
This is the first two years that he has played
wide receiver and from what I had heard,
when Nick Harbour got to school and when he was like,
I wanna win the Boletnikov award
and I wanna be a wide receiver, they were like,
oh, well, okay.
All right. Yeah. Well, I mean, we can, we can teach you how to do that,
but like it is massive learning years from him. I mean,
the strength and weaknesses is basically all of the strength categories are
physical gifts and all of the weaknesses are the actual production part of
things so far. Like I'll just quickly list them off. Strengths,
no false steps out of his stance. Extremely impressive. First step, explosiveness. Top speed, size combination, truly rare even for the NFL level. Change of direction
and fluidity is way better than you'd expect for a player of his size. Massive catch radius, okay?
That's the strength. Weaknesses, doesn't look very natural as a wide receiver right now during his
underclassmen years. Route tree is very vertical and basic. He rounds all of his breaks as well,
so there's not a lot of sharp separation.
Doesn't dominate blocking the way that you would want him to.
Low separation scores despite the athleticism
in both 2023 and 2024 versus single coverage.
Low yards after catch production averages as well.
Like with that athleticism that you have
and hands need to be more active when he's clearing defenders
and he just needs to be more conscious
of his technique to stay clean.
So a lot of playing the wide receiver position,
it's, it's hard right now, because when you look at Nick Harbor,
it's basically like, Hey, you're big, you got big length,
just running a straight line. And right now he,
I think that when people watch him and they look at the athleticism,
I think the most common comp that you're going to hear is Kyle Pitts.
That's the most common comp that you're going to have, because Pitts. That's the most common comp that you're going to have because the only other
ones is like Calvin Johnson and nobody's going to do Calvin Johnson.
Well, people want him to be DK Metcalf is what they want, but he is, he is not
nearly as strong as DK Metcalf and he, and he does not play with nearly as much
strength there. He, the Kyle Pitts potential is there,
but he's not the Florida version of Kyle Pitts.
And like, let alone sort of a little bit disappointing
of what we have seen at the NFL level from Kyle Pitts.
Right.
He is more, he is closer to what Hakeem Butler was
coming out of Iowa State.
Wow, I wasn't ready for that.
He is, he-
No, I'm not clowning it.
It's just, I haven't heard Hakeem Butler reference
in quite some time.
Because I liked H Keem Butler a lot
when he was coming out of Iowa State,
but that was whatever it was, I think five, six years ago.
And I was not in tune to the fact
that you have to be more detailed as a football player
to win in the NFL.
He couldn't get off the line of scrimmage either.
He couldn't get off the line of scrimmage
and nothing worked for him beyond running fast
Vertically people from the slot that was basically it and the NFL went okay
We're gonna put somebody on the line scrimmage. They're gonna press the crap out of you
you're never gonna be able to get off of it and then you're not gonna beat the safety deep and
now he is a
What league is it?
UfL
UfL now he's kind of like now he's a battlehawk? Now he's like a UFL legend.
Like now he's playing well.
Yeah, because you could do the same thing.
Because, no, and he's gotten better.
I think that he has gotten better as a wide receiver, but it has taken him time.
And so that's the-
And he's 29.
The conversation is like, it is like, he is closer to Hakeem Butler right now than he is Kyle Pitts.
And I just think you're going to hear a lot of people want to compare him to Kyle
Pitts and DK. I don't even think he's close to DK Metcalf.
He didn't even play the same as DK Metcalf does. So I'm not even like,
that's not even the conversation. They may have the same numbers on the scale,
maybe some similar measurables here.
DK plays a totally different game than Nick Harbor does.
So if you're going to compare it to anybody that's like a high potential player, it'd be Kyle Pitts who
was a tight end who went number four overall, but again he is so far
away from that. Not that he can't get there and I hope we see some damn close
flashes because he's gonna be a fun player if he continues to evolve and
figure it out, but he's not there yet. And unfortunately, as much as we in Summer Scouting
project players getting better,
what a lot of people are saying about Nick Harbor
being a top 15 overall pick,
that's not projecting him to get better.
That is a triple jump.
Like that is a leap and beyond
from what his tape currently is.
So I'm not trying to be overly negative on the kid.
I know that you're not either. No, he's got all the talent in the world.
I want him to be a passer. Let's see it. I'm going to be honest. Some people,
some people really know I'm serious. I really do. I I'm like excited.
The part man, one more down year. I, I might have my, my wish.
The problem is, is that the problem is that I actually agree with you.
And I think that's...
Thanks.
Well, it creates a reality where worst case scenario might happen.
Where he plays wide receiver for three or four years, people go,
okay, it's not working out, and now you are asking him to play
edge rusher for the first time since high school,
and you are resetting the timeline again for him.
And then you're probably having to ask him to gain a ton of weight very quickly
to play in the defensive line. So it's like, I hear what you're saying,
but that, but I even thought of that myself. I almost was like,
do I just say that I want this guy to play defense? But unfortunately,
that reality could kind of suck if that ends up happening.
Or maybe he'll just be the trenches version
of Travis Hunter, I don't know.
Yeah.
You know, maybe just play both.
Never know.
Okay, top tens?
Yes, top tens.
10 through six.
10 through six.
10 for me is Kevin Concepcion,
who is now at Texas A&M from NC State.
Nine, the previously mentioned Malachi Fields,
who is now at Notre Dame from Virginia.
All right.
Eight, Antonia Williams out of Clemson.
Seven, Nick Anderson, who is now at LSU from Oklahoma.
And six, maybe my favorite player of this group.
Not the best, my favorite player of this group. Not the best.
My favorite player though from this group.
Eric Rivers, who is now at Georgia Tech from FIU.
I didn't watch his play.
I freaking love Eric Rivers.
What?
Yeah.
You say he's your favorite player?
This was my like, how far can I shoot this bow and arrow?
What? Because he might
he might he transferred up obviously from FIU to Georgia Tech and he might just do nothing
with the level of competition increase he also just might continue to be a superstar.
So they're replacing Eric Singleton with him right? Which is hilarious because Eric Singleton
is number five for me. Okay so you Okay, so you are much higher on Singleton
and Concepcion than I am.
Okay, I can see that with Singleton.
There's, we'll talk about him when we get to the top fives,
or we'll see, but you wanna hear about Rivers first?
Just because I kinda hyped him up.
Yes, I'm dying to.
I'm looking up his PFF numbers
because saying saying
that to me means that it means a lot so
go ahead go ahead he is such a fun watch
he's a redshirt senior he's 511 175 I
think he hopefully is gained some weight
and you know me I don't like small
receivers at all 511 got a 5'11", 175 red shirt senior at 6!
Dude.
Nobody, nobody last year could match this guy's movements or run with him.
He was FIU's Jalen Waddle.
Literally.
When you watch him, it was just twitchy, fast, constantly got over the top of the defense.
Listen to the story first.
Last year, 62 catches, 1,172 receiving yards,
and 12 touchdowns.
I think he was one of the first All-American for FIU.
Now there's different All-American statuses handed out,
but he was recognized for the special season he had last year.
Okay.
According to the internet, he walked on,
and you know, you should always believe the internet,
his path makes no sense to me.
He walked on at Memphis as a DB,
played special teams as a freshman,
he had to redshirt his sophomore year because he had a shoulder injury
Then he left and walked on fi you as a wide receiver in
2023
So this guy has nobody has ever thought anything of this human being except for you except for me
Although to be fair. He had almost 1200 yards last year
for me. Although to be fair, he had almost 1200 yards last year. I didn't see a corner that could match him in 2024, like had no answer for him. And then the best part is
when they would throw him the ball underneath, the tackler, the would be tackler angles are
hilarious. Watching safeties run through their brain of like, do I over commit to the sideline
or do I crash down in the middle of the field?
He ran by me anyway, again.
His catch-and-run opportunities were silly.
And one of the reasons I really am buying in,
now yes, he's wide receiver six for me,
this is a leap of faith, this is somebody that,
there's a world where he's not drafted next year.
He was 96th percentile in the country
in yards per outrun last year. Yards per outrun
is one of the most important data points when evaluating wide receivers and converting it
to tape watching. This guy is legitimately a three level winner at wide receiver because
of his speed and his movements and his control of his speed. He's got the slender body, which really, really scares me.
But if he can get up to a 180, 185, keep the speed, keep the movements.
I am a little cautious about, you know, him going to Georgia Tech.
Like, we'll see.
It's not it's not an offense where I'm just saying it's going to.
It's 100 percent going to work.
But Trevor, this guy's film last year is silly.
It is silly.
Eric, have you ever heard of Little Caesar's hot and ready pizza?
Fire and steroids.
Because because we can teach you, we can teach you plenty about it.
We can get you up to 180, 185 real easy.
I cannot wait to watch this player just Just from the way that you talked about them each there,
there are a handful of guys in this class. I think it,
you having conception in your top 10,
having singleton in your top 10,
that makes sense that you would have this player also in your top 10 because
for as much as we talked about, you know, this wide receiver class being deep,
and we talked about it at the very top of the show,
I was curious as to which traits you were going to lean into more versus what I was going to lean into more.
And very clearly, like, for a couple of those guys, like Concepcion, smaller size, Eric Singleton, smaller size,
Eric Rivers, smaller size, but very twitchy players.
Guys, you could very easily see creating separation on a variety
of different routes, basically for a variety of different
offenses.
So I can see why you would lean in to these players and yeah,
I can't wait to watch him.
I become a caveman at this point where you either got to be
really big and physical or really freaking fast and twitchy.
Yeah, if you aren't either of those things, I just don't really value you at the position,
the way that, you know, some evaluators will talk themselves into because the guys that
are just guys are how you miss so often at this position. So if you're small, which is,
I really don't like small receivers, you got to be freakish in the way you move and really challenge the defense with
them without the ball. You'll notice a trend like my top four wide receivers all have some form of
size. Did you watch Deon Burks? No I didn't and he was the last guy I really wanted to get to.
Yeah. He is the guy of all of the names that we have said here, the one that I like the most,
who we are getting to still in my top 10.
He's awesome.
And like he's of that mold and I like him the most
out of all those guys.
So I'll watch Rivers.
Where is a mover over physicality?
A smaller guy, but a dude who wins
in the ways that you are leaning towards
that you like to win.
So I gotta watch Rivers, you gotta watch Burks.
Okay, really quick, your 10 to six, who was it again? in the ways that you are leaning towards that you like to win. So I got to watch Rivers. You got to watch Berks. Okay.
Really quick.
You're 10 to six.
Who was again?
My 10 Concepcion was 10.
Malachi fields was nine.
Antonio Williams from Clemson, who is really interesting in terms of, you know,
like trajectory and stuff.
He was, uh, seven or eight.
Okay.
Number seven.
I love Nick Nick Anderson,
who's at LSU now.
Yeah.
But from Oklahoma, like you wanna talk about
a size, speed, vertical guy?
I am a 10, so we can talk about Nick Anderson.
Yeah. Go ahead.
Nick Anderson, if he doesn't get hurt last year,
I kind of wonder how we look at him in this group,
quite honestly, because when you turn back the clock
and watch the film from two years ago,
Nick Anderson is six four, 210 pounds.
He last year missed pretty much most of the year
with a quad injury.
The year before that,
which was his freshman season, I wanna say?
Or red shirt freshman season?
Red shirt freshman season, yep.
38 catches for almost 800 yards.
He averaged 21 yards per catch with 10 touchdowns.
It's like silly.
He's just a big target.
His strides chew up so much ground in his routes
that as soon as you turn on the tape,
the first play you know exactly who he is.
You wouldn't, I could say that sentence to you
and not give you the number or not tell you his alignment
and you'd find him on the first play.
Big frame, I love how he plowed through corners
trying to jam him.
And this is a red shirt freshman.
Corners tried to get hands on him and he plowed through them.
Double moves, lethal, because he uses the buildup speed
with the double move and then Corners, if you hesitate or bite the wrong way you're dead.
You're dead in the water.
He generated so he had 60 targets in 2023 right redshirt freshman.
You're not going to get 80 to 100 target season.
He had 60 targets.
He generated 22 explosive plays 15 plus yard plays on 60 targets.
That's that means more than one out of every three times the ball came his way, it was a 15 plus yard play.
That is absurd for a redshirt freshman.
So, you know, the drop rate is a little concerning.
He had a seventh percentile drop rate in 2023.
The injury last year.
The releases can be a little long and clunky at times,
but you just want that size, speed,
get over the top of the defense.
I think this guy could be, with Nussmeyer,, baby. I think this guy could be a star this year
No, he can get over a thousand yards this year with Nussmeyer very easily
I think that that is absolutely within the cards for him and I'm excited to see him play
I liked him a little bit last year as well. This is Rodney Anderson's brother
The Oklahoma running back who I I loved Rodney Anderson
He just ended up having knee injuries.
It was a big reason why his NFL career didn't work out.
But dude, at one point I had Rodney Anderson,
I don't even remember which draft class it was.
I had him RB one.
Like I thought his brother was awesome.
His other brother Ryder also played defensive back,
played for the New Orleans Saints.
And his uncle Mark played as a defensive end as well.
So you mentioned some of the background of him
when he was in Oklahoma.
He was a 110 meter hurdle guy for the track team,
which does make sense when you look kind of like
how he's able to gallop and just that,
it feels like springy athleticism he sometimes showcases
with that longer, more slender frame,
but the long strides are great when getting vertical.
You mentioned, I think he's got those active hands
to stay clean off of press coverage.
Sometimes just because of the more slender build,
I saw him get pushed around a little bit when blocking,
but like when getting past defenders,
I feel like he certainly had the adequate hand strength
and just upper body strength to be able to do that.
And I will say, like, even though I saw him get bodied
sometimes when he was blocking, like he is a willing
and competitive blocker.
Yes.
This is a competitive wide receiver.
And that is competitive toughness is a trait
that you're going to hear every single NFL team
and coach want to gravitate towards.
So I did like Nick Anderson as well.
We've only seen him, like you said,
basically as a redshirt freshmen.
So it's hard to judge the tape too much. He had too many
drops and didn't have enough. Uh, it didn't have a high enough contested
catch percentage of which we need to see from him, but he could certainly have it
this year. So I had him as a X receiver number four and uh, yeah, I had him as
wide receiver 10 here in this draft.
You should talk about Fields
because I have him outside of my top 15, but you have him right at number nine.
So talk about Fields, the other Notre Dame wide receiver.
And then I think we'll get into a couple of these other guys.
So Fields is six, four,, 220, which is like,
and he's every bit of it.
There's a world where if he's playing at 225 this year,
I'd be like, yeah, I believe you.
He, the last two years for Virginia,
he's been insanely productive for them.
Former three-star recruit in high school,
he played quarterback, cornerback, and returned kicks.
Yes, yeah.
So it's like, okay, you're big and athletic,
you know, coming out of high school,
now you're gonna play wide receiver.
And it worked.
I think all of his offers were for wide receiver.
It makes sense.
In 2023, he's been the same guy for two years now.
2023, 58 catches, 811 yards, five touchdowns.
2024, 55 catches, 808 yards, five touchdowns.
Kind of insane that the only difference
between his last two seasons is three catches
and three yards.
Like he's literally cloned his last two seasons.
Same guy.
That is pretty, so what you see is what you get.
I'll start with the good.
He's tall, he's wide, he's muscled up,
and he was a team captain.
So this is somebody that clearly takes
the weight room very seriously, has an NFL body,
and has NFL leadership skills.
He uses his upper body to shield defenders,
like to win the football.
It's almost like a basketball player boxing out for a rebound.
He understands how to shield coverage
to take the football away.
His compete level as a blocker is excellent.
There are so many examples of him dumping guys,
driving them to the sideline.
He is, he's a team guy.
And he's not just a team guy
where he's a college overachiever.
He looks every bit of an NFL player.
So with NFL strength.
Why I understand, this is why I understand
you not having him in the top 15.
And why, unfortunately, like he could fall,
these are reasons he could fall for me.
The routes are just based on strength and power.
There's not like finesse and elusiveness in his routes.
There's not a lot of drops on film,
but he's oddly not a consistent fluid pass catcher.
There's some double clutching, you know what I mean?
Where it's like, it is weird.
Like if you looked at the drop rate,
it's like he catches the ball,
but you watch film after film of him
and you're like, it's never always an easy road.
He, his numbers, you're right.
His numbers aren't bad.
No.
But you watch the film and you don't feel as good about.
He, I will fully admit.
I have him outside of my top 15.
I'm sort of like, I obviously wrote his scouting report and everything.
He's going to be in the mock draft simulator.
You guys will be able to see all my thoughts in there as well,
but like I don't really know what to do with him. I'm kind of just like, okay,
give me another year because I, I, I,
I don't exactly know what to do with him because you mentioned the blocking,
right? Look at the blocking very competitive blocker.
He has some blocks where he is just engulfing
safeties or corners.
Like they got no prayer to get off of him.
And yet there were so many times where I was asking him
to attack the ball in the air more.
It's like, dude, that like, that's your calling card.
Like you gotta-
He waits a lot for it.
Like go up and get like, you, you are such an alpha
when you are blocking,
be an alpha going to the football.
There were also you mentioned the routes.
There were, man, I can't remember which game I watched first.
I can't remember which game this exactly was.
But the first game that I watched of him, he had like no twitchiness or
suddenness getting off blind scrimmage.
And I was like, okay, you're just, you're, you're, you're,
when I watched that game, I said to myself, you're going to be a contested
catch wide receiver at the NFL level.
And then I didn't see him attack the ball in the air with the true, like
relentlessness that I wanted to see from him.
And so I was like, I don't, but, but the separation scores aren't as bad as
you think for a player of his size
You know you want them to be
I'll tell you who you want him to be and it's funny They've had very similar roads and this player is Johnson this player has been yeah, I'd love that
I'd love for him to be Calvin Johnson Jerry Rice and Randy Moss in one player
And it's funny because this this player has been way better than anyone expected. He went in the seventh round
Juwan Jennings.
That's.
I'd love for him to be Jawan Jennings.
But look at Jawan Jennings though.
We look at Jawan Jennings now,
especially the fantasy community having their mitts on him.
Like, oh, Jawan Jennings.
He could be the number one wide receiver
for the 49ers this year.
But flash, turn back the clock.
Jawan Jennings was a high school quarterback,
converted to wide receiver at Tennessee,
that was a big tough guy, that was stiff,
not really always, it wasn't always pretty on tape,
ran a 4.72 and jumped 29 inches in the vertical
before the draft, and it just worked for him
at the NFL level.
Like there's nothing in his athletic profile
that tells you Juwan Jennings should be
an effective NFL wide receiver,
and I'm not saying Fields is gonna be Juwan Jennings because that's ridiculous to bet on that.
But with his transfer to Notre Dame, like I think that's exactly the kind of player you want him to be.
I actually have Joann Jennings as an early comp for a different player that we haven't talked about yet.
Okay.
Do you want me to just say him?
I guess we can. I guess we can because he's in my top.
He's in my next group and he was in your first group.
Oh.
I have that for Elijah Sirat.
Sirat, yeah.
Sirat is a good player that kind of like fields,
the last bullet point in the scouting report to me is like,
is he gonna run away from anyone at the next level?
No, he's not, but like that's why,
but like everything else he does,
he does exactly what you want
for a possession wide receiver.
Like highly competitive player.
You watch two games of him
and he is chirping at defensive backs.
That was Pat Bryant this year.
I almost put Pat Bryant for him.
That's who Pat Bryant was this year.
And so I think Pat Bryant's also a really good comp for him.
So I have Elijah Sirot as seven.
So okay, for my 10, and then we'll go back to it.
10 for me is Nick Anderson, nine for me is Carnell Tate,
who I thought I was gonna be a little bit higher on.
Whoa, nine for Carnell Tate?
I know, and I thought I was. You despise him.
Dude, I thought I was gonna be higher on him.
Yeah, no, listen, it's not egregious.
We'll talk about him in a second.
Did you watch Chase Roberts from BYU?
I did not have Chase Roberts at eight.
OK, Chase Roberts is my Eric Rivers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's not built.
It is the complete opposite scouting report.
But you having Rivers at six and me having Chase Roberts at eight.
So I have Roberts today and then I have Elijah Serrat at seven.
And then I have Dionne Burks at number six.
So we can talk about a little bit.
But just let's go back to Elijah Surratt.
I have Surratt as my number two ex receiver.
And he is a senior in Indiana.
He, like many players who are currently at Indiana, started their careers.
Or he didn't start his career.
Actually, his journey is actually a lot longer than that.
Zero star wide receiver in the twenty twenty two recruiting class.
He played wide receiver in defensive back and returned punts in high school.
He also played basketball in high school.
He committed to St.
Francis University, which.
Is it like a D2 school?
Actually, don't even know this.
It is FCS level.
He he's a zero star recruit. Yeah, so he played one year there and then he transferred over to James Madison where Kurt signetti was course previously
he
Started ten games for signetti and then he transferred over to Indiana like many JMU players when signetti went over to everybody
he transferred over and he started all 13 games last year for him and
brother this dude
This dude rules. He's a senior. So this is last year. He's six foot two. So he's 67th percentile
209 pounds 68th percentile, but he is a true on the line of script
I'm just gonna read you my scouting summary because I think that's the best way to do it
on the line of scrim. I'm just gonna read you my scouting summary
because I think that's the best way to do it.
Sarat is an alpha type of X receiver.
His competitive toughness jumps off the screen
when you are watching his film.
He is a high energy player who does all of the
quote unquote big receiver things that you want him to do.
He dominates at the catch point,
he dominates through contact,
and he's good in the blocking game.
His separation scores are low
and that won't change in the NFL,
but it's hard to watch this guy and not want him on your football team.
He is another guy who is limited athletically,
but the contested catch percentage has been consistently over 50% his entire
career. He is so impressive with the above the rim catches. You know,
I want Malachi Fields to go up and get it.
I've never once been like, hmm,
I think Elijah Sirot should have gone up
and climbed the ladder and gone to get it
because I'll watch it happen.
I don't have to think about it.
Every single time he attacks the ball in the air
and just the, I don't know anything about the kid,
obviously like haven't sat down
and interviewed him or anything like that.
But I have a hard time watching his film
and thinking that coaches aren't gonna go,
oh yes, this dude, get this kid on our NFL team.
So a lot of the pluses of sort of like
how you're seeing fields, like that is how I see Sarat.
And it's funny that I have fields
right outside of my top 15. I think you had Sarat like barely you're seeing fields. Like that is how I see Sarat. And it's funny that I have fields right outside of my top 15.
I think you had Sarat like barely in your top 15.
And so we just kind of like flipped.
No, Sarat was 12 for me.
Oh, okay.
He was 12 for you.
So I just, I'm so in on this player.
I try to not bet on guys who aren't great athletes,
but this dude's awesome.
I want to believe in him.
He's my guy.
So.
Yeah, he's that my biggest,
I had a lot of strengths for him, man.
Like he is the most fearless player in this group
of going over the middle of the field by far.
Number one at that.
He contested catch rate was super high, 16 at 27.
I thought he had a good understanding
of how to improvise during the scramble drill.
He could adjust the, he could dig out low throws.
He can climb the ladder on high throws.
It's just he's not explosive.
He doesn't have good top speed.
He's never going to be a high end separator.
But like a, you know, hopefully, Pat Bryant's like this at the NFL level.
The NFL is telling you where they drafted him.
I think he can be. You just got to be an outlier with that and and play in traffic.
You know, play through tough traffic areas, not play in traffic.
Go play.
Oh, man.
Oh, boy.
Go play in traffic.
You can dodge your end.
You can dodge traffic.
You can dodge them all.
Oh, God.
It's you know, really, this this podcast is this is like this is like the big thing I do this time of year
I do the metz pod but we go for like 50 minutes and and there's eight million baseball games. So you just
You blink and the pods over
This is the one thing I do this time of year where I actually have to like turn my brain back on
And you can see you can really tell
You could really tell oh that's
beautiful I needed that that was amazing and if I change go play so is there
somebody else you needed to talk about in the top ten well you were a little
surprised by Concepcion
Yes, you talk about do you have Antonio Williams in your top five? Yeah, okay. He rules. Yeah, okay
Concepcion I'll be quick on
He's such a fascinating player because like Nick Anderson
He kind of just throw out
2024 and we're not throw it out, because he played, Anderson was hurt.
But I don't know what happened to him.
He had an incredible freshman season in 2023 for NC State.
To put it in perspective, he had 71 catches,
839 receiving yards, he caught 10 touchdowns,
he had 41 carries, 320 rushing yards,
and he threw a touchdown.
He was just a Percy Harvin kind of player in this offense.
And they legitimately used him out of the backfield
and he was good at it.
His burst was phenomenal.
He averaged almost eight yards per carry.
So I don't think this is just a wide receiver.
If I had Concepcion in my offense,
and I think this is why A&M went out and got him.
5'11, 187, so he's got the body
to take on running back touches.
You know, if you're already 187 and he's a junior right now,
I think I'll get bigger.
He's just a dynamic weapon.
You just want the ball in his hands.
I thought, like his ability to create yards stood out to me.
Quick, shifty, really good from the slot, really good from the backfield.
Drop rate was a little higher than I'd like.
I don't know why the production fell off in 2024.
I felt like all the great ideas they had for him that made him a standout freshman in 2023
just started to evaporate last year.
And I'm willing for now to blame the offense and CFA and
M can kind of regain that that magic with him.
It is extremely versatile player.
And I think that he has a little bit like it reminded me you said Percy Harvin like
here he reminded me of more of like a Teva on Austin.
I know that's the I know that that name is legend around here.
You know, with the highlight film is the meme
and everything like that.
But like, you gotta kind of think of like
what Tevan Austin was in the NFL.
Like he was this ultimate versatility,
running back slash wide receiver
who was unstoppable at West Virginia.
And then when he gets to the NFL,
it's like, okay, well,
there's so very few players that are that.
And I just don't think that
Austin who was fine. I think he had a handful of like really nice years in the NFL was fine
years in the NFL. Like he wasn't that same player. And so when I look at Concepcion,
that's kind of the sort of player that that I see in 2024, specifically. Well, he had
13 drops over the course of the first two seasons, which I do not love. The drop rate's a problem. I think the biggest issue for him and why he wasn't as productive in 2024 is 2023.
I think he needs, you know how we talk about pass rush plans for defenders?
I think he needs more of a, like a Yak plan sometimes,
which is kind of crazy to say given the 2023 film,
because it looked like he was a yak king.
But when I watched him in 2024, it was almost like he was getting to defenders and
then he didn't really know what to do.
He'd start doing the thing that everybody does when they're playing on the playground
where they just start to chop their feet a little bit.
But there's not really a purpose to it and then they just get tackled.
And I feel like I saw that way too many times with a guy who could have very well stutter stepped once put your foot in the ground boom now you're making
the guy running back he's really good at that he was in 2023 for sure because I watched a couple
of games in 20 yeah the 2023 running back touches I was like damn I guess the reason I have a little
more hope for him is it like Tavon Austin was 5 84. I think this guy's a real he's listed 5'11", even if he's 5'10", I think he's going to play at 190.
Yeah, which is better, which is better.
He's got a new chance at A&M.
Let's see. He's in A&M this year.
So it's like if he looks the part at both positions in the SEC, like,
yeah, you got to believe in him there.
I will touch on Chase Roberts really quick.
I did not know Chase Roberts really quick.
I did not know anything about this player. And in fact, he's a red shirt senior
who was in the 2019 recruiting class.
So I-
Did he go on a mission?
He did.
So when I saw those things, I was like,
okay, I'm gonna have this guy ranked what?
22nd, 23rd?
Nope, got him eighth.
So he's six foot four 210 pounds which is
91st percentile and 70th percentile for the position he's a three-star wide
receiver he committed to BYU from 2019 to 2021 he was on a church mission to
Alberta Canada so he didn't play at all during those years in 2022 played in
11 games with three starts.
In 2023, started 11 times.
And then last year he started in all 13 games for BYU.
His dad also played defensive back for BYU
in the early 1990s.
Connor, I think, so I will admit this.
I started with the Wyoming game.
I watched him play against Wyoming and I went,
just gotta get drafted top 50?
Like what?
Like what did I just watch?
I watched a player who was so much more fluid
than six foot four, 210 pound wide receivers are supposed to be I watched a guy who?
Was well beyond his years with nuance when it came to release packages off the line of scrimmage
setting up defenders to attack leverage as best as he possibly can either taking advantage of outside leverage on in breaking routes or
Sorry outside yeah outside leverage versus in breaking routes or, uh, um, sorry, outside, yeah, outside leverage versus in breaking routes or inside leverage versus outside
breaking routes.
Or if he knew that he had to go inside and the corner was playing inside
leverage on him, he would basically chew up all the space,
get right in between them, attack him, get the,
get the defenders hips even to totally take away the leverage and then boom.
And then he goes inside. So it's like, I'm watching him. I was like was like dude you've been in the NFL for three or four years what am I watching here?
He is excellent at tempoing his routes to find that soft spot in the zone find those throwing
windows everything that he needs to find. He is so fundamentally sound as a football player and I
I'm not kidding I watched that Wyoming game and I said to myself I have to watch at least
two or three more games of him because there's no way they all look like that and we haven't
heard about this guy yet so the other games not as dominant but still a lot of the traits were there
now some negatives for him really low yards after catch percentages throughout his career it's just
not really a part of his game he allows the ball into his body more than I would like you know when
we talk about bigger wide receivers X you have a big catch radius and a big
catch radius is not just for giant one-handed catches that are spectacular
catches. They are also for as the ball is coming to you, reach out, catch the
football, extend the arms. Don't let it come into the body because if you are
used to letting it come into the body, one, you have to deal with the ricochet of it bouncing off
your pads in your chest that you have to get good with the timing of that.
And also the more you let it come into your body, the more of the more time
that you give the defenders to get their hands in there and to just disrupt it
in a different way. So I wanted to attack the ball in the air a little bit
more. And I think he's got good potential as a blocker, but sometimes
he's slow to move his feet. And that's where we see the holding penalties and
things like that come up.
But dude, I just, the wisdom of how he plays the position and the way in which he moves
at six foot four, 210 pounds was awesome to me.
So much so that I couldn't even keep him out of my top 10, I got him at number eight.
Yeah, I got to get get eyes on him
because obviously
that's that's pretty jarring performance against Wyoming. And I know he like you said, he didn't replicate that.
I think you did you also mention
I think he had a game winner against Baylor, right?
He had he had some moments last year.
But yeah, so definitely got to get eyes on him.
And listen, BYU, we've we've seen wide receivers come out of there
and not put up thousand yards and they end up all right.
Last guy in my top five before we move into
just the overall top five,
because I have Antonio Williams right in my top five.
He's right outside for you.
So we can start with Antonio Williams
and we can go to Carnell Tate
and we can talk about a couple of those other guys.
But Dion Burks, the wide receiver from Oklahoma
is somebody that I just want to touch on really quick.
Redshirt senior this year, I have him listed as a slot receiver. He is my number three slot
receiver behind Antonio Williams and a player to be named a little bit later in this episode.
Dion Burks is five foot nine, 181 pounds, so he's a little bit smaller. Certainly three star wide
receiver in the 2021 class, ran track in high school, originally committed to play it to Purdue,
played in four games and redshirted his first year, only started in one game in 2022 started all 12 games 2023
then he transferred over to Oklahoma for 2024 played in only five games last year and missed
the rest to concussion issues and a thigh contusion. He has very high athleticism scores. In game
athletic athleticism scores the metric that we track at PFF
He was consistently above the 90th and 95th percentile in those that translates into very good separation scores as well including against single coverage
very quick footwork
Experience and adequate as a wide receiver who you were giving hands handoffs to outside of or in the backfield
So he can be a slot
But he can also be that Z flanker motion type of receiver for you when he makes catches even though he's got a
smaller catch radius they are often fully extended hands which which he is
attacking the football in the air he has the heart for pass blocking and the
pride for pass blocking though he gives up a little bit of size there and that
goes into how he gets off press coverage as well so that's a little bit of an
issue for him.
He was number 50 on Bruce Feldman's freak list in 2024 and you talk about a reason why he is the small guy quote-unquote that I am willing to bet on this year. Feldman had this to say about him in 2024. The 5'9", 190 pound junior from Michigan was excellent for the Sooners. Berks provided to be, sorry, Berks proved to be
their strongest wide receiver in the squat at 200,
sorry, 540 pounds.
The bench press at 400 pounds.
He's a buck 81, Connor, and he benched 400.
I gotta see it.
Also power, I don't blame you.
Also power clean.
We've been lied to before.
I've been broken too many times.
This guy ran a 1.34 three cone.
This is also, this is-
I believe it though.
I believe it.
Keep going here from Felden.
He also topped all receivers pause in jump,
in the jump height,
and then he shirred it in.
Forced plates off of his velocity at takeoff.
Berks's propulsive force was remarkable.
Is that another pause?
I don't know.
In terms of his ability-
Yeah, there's a lot happening here.
Generate force nearly four times his body weight
in a vertical jump.
So Feldman just classifying how athletic this guy is.
You gotta get eyes on him.
I think that he's excellent.
He's a Meekle Hardman type of a wide receiver.
And Meekle Hardman has been somebody
who has been utilized heavily,
certainly with the Kansas City Chiefs offense,
but somebody who's been able to turn strength and speed
into production at the NFL level.
So Dion Burke's man, really love him.
And of these smaller wide receivers,
he's the one that I wanna bet on,
given the fact that his, uh, the, his,
his dog is also like immeasurable,
immeasurable how much heart this guy has and how much he plays with the attitude
that he plays with the pride that he plays with the energy he plays with,
again, a competitive toughness box checker in my opinion. So Dion Burks.
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All right, Antonio Williams time from Clunson.
I think it is Antonio Williams time.
All right, where'd you have him?
I had him eighth, you had him fifth.
I got him five, yep.
Okay, so.
Can I shout out Sam Newman, who is a good friend.
Yes, friend of the show.
Good friend of the pod, works for Awful Announcing.
Helped work on the Awful Announcing article
that featured both of us. Sam is great.
And NFLSE.
Also, you know, like a fellow wing connoisseur.
I've gotten some wings with Sam. Sam checks a lot of boxes. He does. He does. He's a big Clemson guy.
The reason why I'm bringing him up is because he's a big Clemson guy. And I remember last year,
he's like, hey, I know he's not draft eligible yet, but have you watched Antonio Williams? And
at the time I had not, now I have Sam. He is in my top five.
So you can love me more than Connor, it's fine.
Connor's got him at eight, I got him at five.
So just remember that when you're picking favorites
here on the podcast.
But Connor, talk to me about Antonio Williams.
I mean, he's really, really shifty, twitchy.
His ability to generate that short area separation
from both the inside and outside stands out.
He's coming off a season where he had 75 catches
for 904 yards and 11 touchdowns.
Coming off a year in 2023 where a foot injury
cost him most of the year.
And in 2022 as a freshman,
he had 56 catches for over 600 yards.
So this is a former top 100 overall recruit,
you know, standout season in terms of expectations
as a freshman, lost all that momentum because of the injury in 2023 and started to gain
it back last year.
And, you know, him and Cade Klubnick are growing together, which is really, really important
for these guys.
So he's somebody that, in my opinion, you can see, easy it is for him to separate in the short area.
I like that he was willing to work through contact to win the ball.
And it's not all, you know, contested or contact kind of catches are not all created the same.
He's more of a guy that'll work through those congested areas, and with arms chopping at him or punching through him, he's willing to go get the ball.
The quick cuts he has,
he makes the first tackler miss a lot in space.
That's a really, really important thing for his game
is that when he separates in the short area
and the ball is on time,
if he's in space against a tackler in one-on-one,
he often wins that battle.
And last year, he averaged 10 yards on 17 punt returns.
He is a really, really good punt returner.
Where I have some questions,
for a number one wide receiver,
which is what he'll be projected to,
you hope he's projected to be,
he isn't the biggest guy.
He might not play on the outside as much at the next level.
He might play more in the slot.
I know he does both right now.
He had eight drops last year, 27th percentile drop rate.
You'd like to see that drop rate cleaned up.
Just a couple layups and concentration drops.
And you know, going back to how good
of a short area separator he is,
the problem is that's his game right now.
And I don't think he's really fast.
I think he's really quick.
He had 28th percentile average depth of target
but only a 25th percentile yard after catch per reception.
So while he makes the first guy miss,
he's not really that fast.
So he's not this guy that he makes a guy miss
and he sticks his foot in the ground and you blink
and it's like, oh boy, there goes 30 to 60 yards again.
So I don't know, he's in the good range right now.
I have questions if he could be
a great wide receiver prospect.
So I've got him at five, he's listed at five foot 11, 195.
I didn't think he looked that size at all.
I think he looks big, I can believe the 195.
I think he's firmly between 190 195 now like the height
I don't know schools like I mean this is for all these guys. Yes, but I do think that he's
Bigger I think he's at least
More dense like he's got he I think he's got some muscle to him. I really do
You mentioned it. I mean this guy's potential as a route runner
Because of how quick his cuts are I mean for one You mentioned it, this guy's potential as a route runner
because of how quick his cuts are. I mean, for one, he is an out route aficionado.
Like they will align him in the slot
and if you are playing inside leverage
and the outside wide receiver,
like the one, it's a clear out route
and whatever the defenders are running, like if they're running any sort of vertical okay I'm
matching this player and I'm carrying I mean shoot man even if even if that even if the interior
slot defender is has outside leverage against him he will add an angle chew up all the space and then
boom just flip the hips as fast as possible.
And as that ball is coming out pretty quickly with good timing with K Club, Nick, who you
mentioned is his quarterback.
I mean, even that was just, it felt so unstoppable.
This is somebody who you're right.
I wish the yards after catch numbers were a little bit higher for him.
But this is a player where I can envision him being a high volume guy at the NFL level.
Right.
Where he can have five to nine catches every single week and he's going off anywhere from
60 to 120 yards or something.
And I feel like that's like well within what he can bring to the table as a consistent
player because of how well he moves,
because of how explosive his change of direction stuff is.
And maybe there can be more Yak stuff in there.
And I think that that could be possible
with how much he makes guys miss.
Kind of like JSN, a little bit in that regard.
I feel like Josh Downs is somebody that I can-
I was gonna go with Downs first,
but then I remembered how light Downs was.
Yes.
But the style, Downs was always more quick than fast.
Always, and he was a good part returner.
So yes, play style to a T is Downs.
That's the guy who I wrote down as like the early comp
that I might stick with, with him in that place.
Because Downs, I think this upcoming year,
even with all the quarterback craziness
that's going on in Indianapolis,
I think Downs ends the season with the most targets, the most catches, the most yards.
Downs is so good, and it makes you want to slam your head against the wall that he hasn't been in a situation that is more advantageous to him.
Because when Flacco would play, Downs would become unlocked.
And it's like, well, yeah.
So you mentioned the eight drops. It was only one in each of the last two years before that.
So it's like, all right.
Drop rate's a little high variance.
Let's see.
Yeah, drop rate is considered an unstable metric.
We've talked about stable and unstable metric before.
Not now, obviously like you want guys to catch the football,
but like drop rate is considered a stable, unstable metric that can go up and down every single year you could just
have bad years when it comes to drop so we'll see what he could do this year but
I'm a big fan of Antonio Williams and what he could be at the NFL level who
do you have a number four so well five was Eric Singleton okay yeah talk to me
about Singleton I'm lower on Singleton he's, I think, he was like 16 for me,
but I'm really low on him.
But what do you think about Singleton?
So Eric Rivers, who I love,
is actually gonna take on Singleton's role
that he had at Georgia Tech.
Yeah, just to...
Am I like running some Georgia Tech pipeline right now?
I don't know.
You might be.
Is this your team for NCAA 26? Is it? It might be. I had to be. Is this your team for NCAA 26?
Is it?
It might be.
It actually, yeah.
Well, the problem is our dynasty
that is still going right now,
we have to start with two star programs or less.
So Georgia Tech, not a two star program.
So did you start with FIU last year?
I started with UNT.
Oh, shout out.
Yeah. Hey, UNT hosted the East
West Shrine Bowl practices was a phenomenal facility.
Really enjoyed it.
Love it. Really good program.
Really good program.
And yeah, I built them up to be a four and a half star program.
No big deal. Three titles in six seasons already.
Wow. I know he's out here bragging.
We're out here.
It's going to be sad when I wave goodbye to that team in,
what, three weeks to launch. But Eric Singleton, he's now here bragging. We're out here. It's gonna be sad when I wave goodbye to that team in what, three weeks till launch?
But Eric Singleton, he's now at Auburn.
I'll just start with this.
He is really raw.
Like there is, he's a track guy, okay?
He was a sprinter on Georgia Tech's indoor track team.
In high school out of Georgia,
he was a state champion in the 100 in the 200 and in the 400.
Yeah, this guy has freakish speed freakish speed.
Yeah. And last year he did start to tap into that speed into production.
Fifty six catches, 754 receiving yards, three receiving touchdowns,
21 rush attempts, 131 yards at six point two yards per carry
and one Russian touchdown.
The dangerous speed that he has is
You like utilized in actual
football plays from the vertical pass game and
Jet sweep slash reverses in the run game
So he stresses the defense from a horizontal perspective in the run game
And he stresses the defense from a vertical perspective in the pass game Where and he stresses the defense from a vertical perspective
in the pass game, where as much as he's a little raw
right now in terms of playing in receiver position,
he truly impacts both of those aspects,
which is a lot of stress on a defense when,
I mean, we're talking about a guy, Trevor,
that at the combine, there's a world where he runs,
what, a 428, 429?
Yeah, I mean, he feels like he could be a 4243 guy.
Yeah, it's crazy.
So he explodes over the top of the defense.
If there was even a slight hesitation, he's gone.
He played inside and outside at Georgia Tech,
even though he's only listed 5'10", 178.
He's still got that track body.
I will say while watching this offense,
and this is what kind of scared me
with Rivers a little bit now,
I think better quarterback play could unlock a lot more
out of him, where I was like, well, there he is,
running down the sideline again,
and he has to turn around and wait for a ball,
or the ball didn't get there,
or he's got that slender track body
that's still developing into a football frame.
He doesn't have a big catch radius.
The route running really is a big detriment to me right now.
And if it doesn't get better at Auburn,
he will no longer be my wide receiver five in this class.
I am just projecting that it'll improve.
If it doesn't, it's a non-negotiable for me right now.
He doesn't generate as much short area
and intermediate separation as his speed would suggest.
He generates vertical separation
because that's a longer,
like he's building up these strides and nobody,
the longer you're in coverage with this guy,
you can't run with him, he's gifted.
But when it comes to nuances,
you talked about rounded routes before,
you talk about false steps.
He just, he doesn't really have a polished,
short intermediate routery where a defender can go,
well, you're really fast.
I'm gonna play eight yards off and give you a cushion.
And you're not making me challenge you underneath enough
because you're not sharp enough in your route,
you know, the out route, in breaking routes,
get a guy going on a slant.
So that's a big development,
developmental point for Eric Singleton Jr. as he transfers to Auburn and hopefully on a slant. So that's a big developmental point
for Eric Singleton Jr. as he transfers to Auburn
and hopefully has a monster season.
Yeah, you mentioned the track background,
how accomplished he is as a track player
or a track runner.
I mean, that shows up on the football field.
Do you play track?
I specifically, what'd you say?
Do you play track?
Do you play track?
Track player.
No, I don't think you do.
I specifically watched the two Georgia games
Or when he just when he played Georgia and he did not look out of place at all whatsoever
He looked like he belonged on the field. No question about it against Georgia with their speed. The jet sweeps are pretty funny
Jeff Sweets are I mean he has great vision as a playmaker after the catch
He does really knew when to cut it in or when to just keep it wide.
Yep.
And I was like, it's not like,
oh, here comes the gadgety jet sweeping.
It's an NFL jet sweep where you're like,
shit, I don't know how to angle against this guy.
He's, yeah.
The issue is, is that I have him very close
to where I have Zachariah Branch
because I see them very similarly.
A lot of the weaknesses,
catchable passes, caught percentage, below 85% as an underclassmen.
Like his entire career is an underclassmen.
That's not great.
He had 11 drops in 2023 and 2024.
He does not have a lot of experience or success going up against true, true press looks.
They just didn't put him in those situations very often.
And when they did, he just didn't fare very well against it.
And this is really what held him back for me
He did not have a good feel for soft spots in zone. Oh, no, it's no feel for zone and when you are a
Speed demon type of a player you are going to win vertically and you are going to win
Horizontally like you have to win with
you are going to win horizontally. Like you have to win with drag routes,
with digs, with deep and intermediate and shallow crossers.
Like that's it.
And the way that you win with those routes
isn't just being peddled to the metal the whole time.
You have to feel the flow of the defense
and know when to sit down.
And there were so many times in the three games
that I watched where he just did not throttle down
He just didn't slow down so that
Specifically he has to be a much better receiver against zone defenses. That's what I think about single thing
So I thought one thing I will say I thought he stressed the defense's presence more than branch
Like him being on the field was like, I could agree with that.
He's he's dangerous.
You got to you got to watch this guy before every snap.
Yeah.
We're so my four is Denzel Boston.
He's three for me.
OK, all right. Let's talk about Denzel Boston.
I'd call him a tie too, honestly.
I really didn't want to separate two and three.
He is legit, brother.
He legit.
I was wildly impressed with Denzel Boston, where I sat there and go.
This guy was just buried at Washington, 100 percent,
which is rare in college football in this era because guys just leave.
They're like, well, go get more money elsewhere and more targets.
And he didn't leave.
Is he a Washington guy?
Yes, he's from the state of Washington.
Redshirt Jr. at Washington, who has wrote it out
because all they do is keep pumping out great skill talents.
And he's 6'4", 209 pounds.
Which is 91st and 68th percentile.
My goodness, this is an NFL perimeter body right here.
Totally. He's big.
He's got long arms.
He's got good mass.
Last year, 63 catches, 834 yards, nine touchdowns.
I love this player.
I think that he does so.
This is the benefit of actually sitting and watching and playing behind guys that are gonna go be high level NFL pros.
He tracks the deep ball, he plucks it at the highest point, he has strong hands, he shields defenders on underneath routes with a wide back and shoulders.
He's a mismatch in the red zone, but he knows how to use his mismatch size, with long arms, a wide frame, and spacing.
And in the run game, he gets after it.
They trust him.
They trust him in the perimeter on the run game.
They can run his direction and he can move a defensive back off the line of scrimmage
or to the sideline or he can crack down on a linebacker.
He's a little stiff, Trevor.
There's not a lot of twitch and short area agility, but I don't need that from him. This guy's a bully
he's a bully on the field and
If you want to find your like Jaden Higgins level kind of receiver or just that big
Perimeter target that dominates even when covered Denzel Boston is wildly impressive
The I have so many more strength than I have weaknesses for him.
I didn't have really a lot of weaknesses at all.
I did not either.
So kind of a little stiff at times, but it doesn't hamper his ability to win the ball.
But not like weight adjusted, you know, no, right?
Yeah.
Right.
If you're watching him versus Singleton, like, yeah, but like even weight adjusted, I think
these the strengths not slow out of his stance eats up cushion very quick for a big man, which cushion, when we say that it's basically like if the defense is
playing off coverage, what you want to do, especially if you're running a vertical route
is you want to eat up that cushion as fast as possible because you want to put that receiver
or you want to put that defensive back like in conflict.
Like you want to have them make a decision.
Do I need to flip my hips one way or the other way? Or when you you get close to them you can set them up to put your foot in the ground
and either continue to move up the field when they're not ready for it or you have an in braking
route so when we say eat up cushion against off coverage that's what we mean so it's like you're
coming off of the line of scrimmage they're playing off coverage whether it's quarters cover three
whatever it is and you're just eating up that cushion immediately so you are getting in their
face putting putting pressure on them as they're in their back
pedal, forcing them to flip their hips one way or the other, and that's where you can
really manipulate them. So he's up cushioned very quickly for a big man. Decent sharpness to his
cuts for his size and his routes. Good understanding of routes. He'll even pull some double moves. I
even saw some double moves in his tape. Very reliable with his hands with heavy volume in 2024, maximizes a big catch
radius with strong hands, good hand-eye coordination, has yards after catch
mentality, which is not always present for a guy who's an X, which by the way,
he is my number one X receiver that I have in this class.
The weaknesses, the production tailed off when defenses kind of started to key in on him.
Right. He only had more than 50 yards once in his last seven games. You know, he started out the
season as a monster. And then I think all the Pac-12 defenses were, wait, is Washington
Big 10 defenses? Yeah, Big 10 now. All the Big 10 defenses were like, wait a second.
That guy's pretty good.
That's the guy who we need to cover and he just wasn't able to produce.
But a lot of times that's not always his fault.
But dude, he rules.
I think Denzel Boston's fantastic.
He's my number one ex receiver in this class going into next season.
Yeah, I got him at number four, but I really like the, so
I have him at number four, but I really like the... So I have him at number four.
The three guys ahead of him
have the same preliminary round grade for me.
They all have the same thing.
So it's like late first, early second round
type of players for me.
I think all three of those players are on that level.
And I know that people like when we compare the guys
at the top of the class versus sort of where last year's class was
Do you want to say that for the end we could do that with?
Okay, we'll save that at the very end so we could do that then who is your
You had him three three
So now where are we up to I I'm at four because he was four for you
Who's four for me is Makai lemon the wide receiver at USC? Okay? Um
He is one for me, okay
One for me. That's really funny because out of the list I was watching
Him and Boston
Were the two I was like, oh, I didn't expect this at all.
And maybe that's just on me.
Like just on paper, you look at Lemon,
he's 5'11", 195, and he had 52 catches for 764 yards
and three touchdowns last year.
Like there's guys that aren't even on the list
that had more production than this guy.
100%.
And he's number one for you,
so I don't wanna on the list that had more production than this guy. 100%. And he's number one for you,
so I don't wanna steal the mojo,
but I have, I think, eight strengths written down for him,
and I had two weaknesses.
He, no, I'll give the background,
and then let's have a little back and forth of them.
So yeah, I have him as my number one wide receiver
in this class going into the season.
I have him as my number one slot receiver, obviously.
So I have him listed as a slot.
I wonder if I'll have him as a flanker to see if he could really play on the outside. But like, dude,
even if he is just a slot receiver at the NFL level,
the dude rules. I mean, like he gets open
at such a consistent time.
So he was a four star wide receiver in the 2023 recruiting class.
He's just a true junior this year,
so he might not even declare.
I think he's going to given this receiver class
and how good he's gonna be, but we will see.
He played both wide receiver and defensive back
when he was in high school.
No track and field or multi-sport background.
So he was football through and through,
but he was football through and through.
And I read that he was very close friends with Malachi Nelson,
the quarterback who was the five star quarterback who, shoot,
where is Nelson now, UTSA I think.
He was at USC and then he was the one who went to Boise State, I believe.
Didn't win the job at Boise State and then he transferred over to UTSA.
But he was a five star quarterback recruit.
He played on the same Pop Warner team with them.
They won national championship on their Pop Warner team.
I think they played on the same seven-on-seven team.
Like these guys were best friends.
They were highly talented recruits.
So Lemon went to USC.
Actually, Lemon was committed to Oklahoma
when Nelson was committed to Oklahoma
because they were a package deal.
And then when Lincoln Riley went from Oklahoma to USC,
both of them flipped over to USC.
Obviously Nelson is no longer there
and Mackay Lemon still is,
but Lemon played in, Lemon played in nine games for them
at USC as a wide receiver and cornerback.
He played both for them, not a ton.
He didn't play a ton of quarterback,
but he played both positions for them,
his true freshman season. And then just as a wide receiver,
he played in all 12 games with six starts last year.
So here's the strengths that I have for him.
Short strides, but can really move his legs,
like a VA piston engine, man.
I mean, this dude can generate serious speed
despite the shorter stride lengths
that he has with his size.
Very nuanced and technical route runner to consistently create separation no matter what
route he is running.
The play speed is so fast and I think that is an underrated part of playing this position
is sometimes we go, hey, you know, this guy's really fast.
Watch him run a nine route, watch him run a post, watch him run a drag route over the middle.
Look at how fast this guy is.
And you can say that a guy is fast,
but sometimes play speed's a different thing.
Like when you are fast and yet totally in control
to be able to change direction sharply at all times,
that is the thing that translates at all levels of the game.
And he is, in my opinion,
a tier one player at being able to do that.
Already has a really good baseline
of different releases versus press,
despite being a slot receiver.
He is feisty and strong, especially for his body type
when it comes to his run blocking responsibilities.
He'll give up some sizes in some
contested catch situations and the catch radius and the arm length could be lacking when you're
really attacking the ball in the air and hauling those things in. But my scouting summary for him,
Lemon wins with devastating quickness in every aspect of how he moves. His footwork out of his
releases, the speed and his acceleration, the pumping of his hands to break press,
clearing defenders and going up to catch the ball.
He'll give you some situational versatility
due to lack of, or he'll give up
some situational versatility, excuse me,
due to that lack of overall size.
But this is a player who has the potential
to be an incredibly productive pro.
So that's how I saw him as my wide receiver one.
Yeah, I'm with you, man.
The way he alters the tempo in his routes and his IQ to attack the spacing and zone,
he doesn't drop the ball pretty much ever.
He dominates in one-on-one situations because of the play speed you brought up.
I was so impressed with how seamless his transition is from pass catcher to open field runner.
When he catches the ball, there's no delay in, OK, now I'm a weapon
with the ball in my hands.
It's all in one seamless motion.
So I wrote down like any win on the outside or is he a slot only player?
And 2024, and this isn't his fault, it's the offense.
For the games I watched, the route tree was very narrow.
It was basically screen hitch go and
I don't know about you but watching a lot of this offense
Because we've watched Miller Moss and now two wide receivers from it last year. I hated this offense
Yet, it feels like Lincoln Riley's losing his fast which is like listen
for me to sit here and
Act like I can challenge Lincoln Riley, who's
paid a ton of money for a lot of reasons, but man, this was last year, this offense
was a tough watch and it goes to show you with how high we have him ranked, just how
good Lemon is.
I agree.
I don't think that he was asked to run a lot of rounds.
No, he's clearly not.
I would ask him to run every round.
I do not, given the way that he moves,
I do not think that he is limited at all whatsoever.
No, I think that you're looking at somebody
that can be a really, really special wide receiver
in terms of what you put on his plate mentally.
Like it's very clear that he has the physical ability
to handle any single route or any attack
any coverage. I love him. I think he's like the I like the the shout from you for him being number
one. Okay, that leads to your number two. Yeah, two for me was carnell tate. Okay, I have carnell
tate at nine. And I kind of hate myself for it because I wanted to like
him even more than this but you've got him at two so I'll let you intro him. Yeah, Tate, I mean this
is a former four-star crew actually out of Chicago although he played his last two years of high school
football at the very famous IMG academy. Shout out, Brandon Florida. There it is, shout out to a school
that is literally for sports.
Oh, man. If you went there, you probably were pretty damn good at whatever sport you played.
So 52 catches last year, just 67 targets, 733 yards and four touchdowns.
Not surprisingly, Ohio State.
They had some pretty important mouths to feed that wide receiver.
Six foot four hundred ninety one pounds or six six three. Six three, 191 pounds.
He looks every bit of it on film.
You see the size, the length, real perimeter target.
I was pretty surprised with the juice to get vertical.
There was a lot of examples where I saw corners
going into recovery mode and I was like,
oh, for his size.
He can get vertical.
He can get over the top and kind of put corners into this.
Oh boy, I'm trying to match your movements.
I'm not getting my head around.
Love the catch radius.
Some pluck the ball over defensive backs,
maximizes catch radius.
He only had 10 contested targets last year.
He caught six of them.
Once again, like this is an offense last year
where they have maybe the best player in college football
in Jeremiah Smith and Emeka Abouka
who just went in the first round as the number two.
So after the, they throw him a decent amount of screens,
which is weird when you think of an outside wide receiver
at his size, but it's because he plows through defenders
after the, like he's looking to run through,
he does not get cute after the catch.
It's like, okay, I'm gonna lower my shoulder, get my,
you know, get low and try to run through people. How about a 93rd percentile separation percentage
last year, Trevor? He gets, he gets open, man.
Dude, and that's so what was the, uh, the number versus single coverage is lower, but
yes it was. He, but he is, I remember seeing that score before I even turned on the tape
and I was like, okay, like we might have something here with Tate.
And that's ultimately why I was like, man, I'm surprised I'm not higher on him.
Yeah.
But keep going.
No, there's things he needs to work on the routes, which I have full confidence.
Ohio state will, will develop this in him.
The routes need more refinement.
They're just not sharp and sold.
It's weird.
They're not what I've loved about Ohio state wide receivers over the years.
Garrett Wilson was amazing at this.
I think JSN was amazing at this.
Emeka Ibuka.
The, even Marv to an extent, he didn't have to be.
The over-exaggeration at times of selling their routes
with their upper half and lower half being in sync,
the head and shoulder fakes with the lower half movement
is usually a 10 out of 10
for every Ohio State wide receiver.
It's not that with Cardinal Tate.
It's not in his arsenal, which is something hopefully
he can kind of tap into this year.
And that goes back to the point I just made,
but in a different bullet point,
why he doesn't always gain separation as smoothly
as some of these other guys,
the upper half and lower half just aren't always in sync.
It's like his upper half is thinking about what his lower half is doing rather than it just doing it all
in sync together. It's weird he has speed without the ball but he does not have
speed with the ball. It's he it's when he gets the ball he's not very fast or
dynamic. There were he was another one where I kind of just, I thought I was going to see a different player at times.
Right.
And to me, so he's a true junior going into this year. This is his first draft.
He's a young player.
And I just, I wonder if a lot of the, you know, we're doing summer scouting and yes, we're building in some natural projection for these players to get better.
But at the same time, I think that people who listen to this podcast and
follow us know that we're not just gonna blindly hand it to you, right?
Like Nick Harbor, we're not gonna have Nick Harbor in the top five.
That's a perfect example.
We're not gonna hand it to you.
So us being lower on Lenora Sellers in the quarterback episode.
We're not just gonna hand it to you.
And so Tate was one of those ones where it's like,
okay, I think the potential of this player
could be as a top five wide receiver in this class.
I absolutely see it.
But there was too many, like,
I thought when he was running goal routes,
when he was getting vertical,
like he showed really good speed.
And then there were other times where
the play speed was way slower
than I thought it was going to be. And it's like,
you've got to be able to play a little bit faster here.
You've got to be able to be a little bit more crisp in your routes.
You've got to be able to, to, to stop and sit on like curls and comebacks a
little bit better. And so like, there are just these handful of things that I go,
okay, I can realistically see you getting better at all of these things.
Yeah.
Since it will only be your third year in college this upcoming season.
But again, I'm not just gonna hand it to you.
So I was a little surprised that I was lower on him.
I had him like at nine.
I thought I was gonna have him much closer to the top five, maybe closer in the top.
Around maybe even where you had him in this list.
But there were just
things that I watched and it's like, all right, I guess let me let me wait and see it. And if I do,
I'll be the first one to I think get them a lot closer to maybe. Yeah, it's his age 20 season.
So let's and like in full he turned 20 this winter. So he's he's a real 20 year old. And I,
I feel really good about his development.
Honestly, I do.
I think with more opportunity, he's going to be just fine.
You know, to kind of sneak this in, I don't,
I don't think he's a first round player today,
but I think he's, he's a top 45 ish kind of pick.
Number.
So where I want to catch up to where,
because I've gone Singleton, lemon, Boston,
Carnell Tate, five to two.
Yeah. And then you have one more player.
I have one more player left.
I have two and one left.
No, no, one for you is lemon.
I have three and two left.
And then lemon is one.
Ooh, I wonder who I'm missing here.
I did not think that I was going to be this big of a,
look like this big of a homer on this podcast.
Holy smokes, and I didn't talk about him.
Brother.
I didn't talk about him when I had him at 15.
You talking about Eugene Wilson?
Trey Wilson rules, dude.
So I'm gonna let you just run away with this one.
But when I had him at 15
Because I didn't think you were gonna have him at all. I thought you were gonna do the like
I don't want I don't want everybody to think I'm just supporting the Gators. I
was like
Listen, man. I'm putting him at 15 even though he's a redshirt sophomore and
Didn't really play much at all last year. He was hurt twice.
He missed three or four games
and then had a season ending injury
when he came back from that.
Because I watched the freshman year tape
where he had 61 catches and I was like,
this dude is a silly athlete, silly athlete.
Yes.
So I get it.
So yeah, look, chomp chomp, baby.
I'll go full Homer here.
Three?
I don't care, I've got him at number three.
I think that his potential is unbelievable.
Oh yes.
And I think that not just his potential,
we've already seen it from him.
And when you break out the way that he did
as a true freshman, I think that it could lead
to some pretty special stuff in the future.
So he's listed at five foot 11, 190 pounds. That's 22nd percentile,
24th percentile. I have him as my number two Z flanker move wide
receiver. He is only a red shirt sophomore going into this season because
he was able to red shirt last year because you mentioned he only played in
four games because he had two minor surgeries, one on his hip and one on his
knee. So it was not a great season from him in that regard he's a former four star athlete from Tampa Florida
shout out again playing more into the Homer aspect of it attended Gaither high school he started as
both a wide receiver and a cornerback in high school also returned punts in track he ran an
11.3 600 meter and a 22,850 in the 200 meter.
He got seven starts to true freshmen in 2023.
And then I mentioned an injury riddled the year previous air last year,
his father, Eugene Wilson played safety in the NFL was a second round pick in
2020 area in 2003 by the new England Patriots played from 2003 to 2010 and
won two super bowls with the new England Patriots played from 2003 to 2010 and won two Super Bowls with the New England Patriots
And I think that you can absolutely tell that he's got
NFL bloodlines in him and he's got like an NFL pedigree of when he was growing up playing the game
You can absolutely see that with how versatile this guy is how natural of a mover is he how natural he understands
How to win at the game some strengths for him. He plays bigger than his measurable suggest I think you play outside or he could play
in the slot he is a springy athlete now he might not have the best vertical
speed although I think he has good vertical speed but it is that put my
foot in the ground boom I am going a different direction I'm coming out of my
one my my stance is a receiver against press coverage or against off coverage,
and that first step is springy. I think that he is a springy type of an athlete is the adjective
that I would use. Zero drops in his career on over 100 targets in the last two years.
Very good blend of body control and explosiveness to be a high potential route runner,, we've already seen it. Even if it's just a true freshman.
I think that certainly what you put on a true freshmen's plate in terms of the
routes that you want him to run are a little bit limited, but brother, what,
ah, shoot, what game was that where they're wearing the black jerseys,
who they play in Ole Miss, who are they playing in 2023? Anyways,
they were playing this team at home in 2023 where they were wearing the black
jerseys and his touchdown in that game, he hits an out and up from the slot position where it is
just you watching you're just like, just you're just like, oh, that is just the stuff and Mertz
times it perfectly and hits him perfectly. And it's just like that was an NFL type of a play
right there. But scouting summary of him,
Wilson's the ideal chess piece Z type of move wide receiver
who could be a mismatch player in pre snap motion.
His springy natural athleticism allows him to line up
in the slot or in the outside with consistent success,
despite smaller measureables.
His hands are fantastic with 95% catchable passes
caught percentages in each of his first two seasons
He already shows a good baseline for nuance as a route runner and in his release packages against press
If he can come back fully healthy, he could be one of the most coveted receivers in the 2026 class
Go Gators
He moves different dude, he's kind of he a lot of that freshman year
I will say he was kind of like the jet sweep King, but it was
the pitch pass jet sweep to which really beefed up the production.
But it's all there for him to be a special special talent.
I mean the speed the change of direction.
It's really you said it mentioned to have reliable his hands
are for such a young player.
Yeah, I think you just done
So Jordan Tyson
Jordan Tyson is my number one wide receiver for summer scouting
He is number two for me the wide receiver for Arizona State you you intro you intro Jordan Tyson to the good people
Jordan Tyson originally at Colorado now at Arizona State
Redshirt jr. 6 1 195 and he was phenomenal
for Arizona State last year.
75 catches, 1101 yards, 10 touchdowns.
He caught 51 first downs, Trevor.
Sometimes he turned on the tape and you just you just know this guy for me is a first round
player right now.
He is explosive.
There is noticeable athleticism in my opinion
with and without the ball,
but his ability to utilize that in his skillset
with his body control and the nuances of his game,
he works back to the football consistently.
He doesn't wait for the football.
He has body control along the sidelines.
He can adjust in the air back to the football.
He can kind of, he has these like freaky adjustments
in the air as a pass catcher.
Yeah, he's 6'1", 195, which isn't massive,
but he caught 10 of his 15 contested targets last year.
They should throw him the ball when he's covered more
because his ball skills, honestly,
it's a little bit of the Garrett Wilson thing to me
where Garrett's slender.
He's about six feet tall, but he's slender.
But he's so good at contested situations
when they finally throw him the ball,
which Aaron Rodgers wasn't very good at,
because his body control and timing is just,
he's in the air forever,
and he can kind of twist and turn these certain ways.
He had a 94th percentile separation percentage
against single coverage,
so you cannot leave this guy in single coverage.
He will make you pay.
The only two concerns I have
is that there's some concentration lapses
that led to a few layups being dropped
that I'm like, you are way too fucking good
to drop that pass.
You are just simply too good of a player.
I know I was a little lower on the quarterback,
Sam Levitt, who I had 11th,
because I think Levitt is a drifter.
I think if Levitt can hang in the pocket
a little bit more this year,
you look at Jordan Tyson and he could have a 1400 yard season instead of 1100 yard season.
The second thing was he has been really banged up. He missed almost all of 2023 with a leg injury.
And last year he had collarbone surgery that ended his 2024 season before it was the big show for the college football playoff. So that's two years now with significant injury. If
this guy stays healthy, he is every bit of a first round wide
receiver and I think the best in this class.
Yeah, I think that you you hit on the buzzword is body
control. I mean, he's got some of the best body control in the
entire class, whether it is off the line of scrimmage in his
routes, or in yards after catch situations, He's a high level yards after catch potential type
of a player.
He's a good blocker when he wants to be.
Really impressive catches through contact
and Dalton Washington, my co-host at the PFF NFL show
also does the college show with Max Chadwick
which you guys should go check out.
He mentioned this and he's right.
Jordan Tyson is the best intermediate wide receiver
in the class.
Oh, by, it's not close.
Between 10 to 19 yards, I think he had a 92.2 receiving grade. I mean, he was just unbelievable in the class. Oh, by, it's not close. Between 10 to 19 yards,
I think he had a 92.2 receiving grade.
I mean, he was just unbelievable in the middle of the field.
And that's a major area of where you want to be successful.
So you're right.
I said the same thing.
I think that he had some concentration drops last year,
just some laps in judgment.
The release packages were pretty basic,
but I think that also kind of goes into the fact
that this level of competition
and the kind of brand of football they're playing in Arizona State, not that they don't develop it,
but they just don't see a lot of press coverage. Like it's just not the game's a lot more wide open.
It's a lot more vertical. So they don't see a lot of it. So he doesn't have a ton of different
releases that he goes to, which he will need to his brother, Jaylen, by the way, the cab pick of
the calves in 2024. So that let it come. Hey that should be in, they have a third brother. I think he's the strength and conditioning coach at South Alabama. Yes. Yes. Yes, you are right. That should be in him and being like, hey, my brothers are coming to the barbecue today. Oh, what do they do? Well, one's on the calves and the other's going in the first round next year for the NFL draft. Yeah. It's, it's basically a race to, uh, who's going to get drafted higher. Basically the over under for Jordan Tyson. Amazing. Prop bet set Trevor, because Jalen went 20th. Yeah, it's basically a race to who's going to get drafted higher. Yeah. Basically the over under for Jordan Tyson.
Amazing prop bet set Trevor, because Jalen went 20th.
Yeah. And I actually think that's a good over under. That's the exact number.
Jordan Tyson. Yeah, it's perfect.
So really quickly before we end the show, because we said that we would do this,
where these guys would fit in last year's class. I think I would still have Tetra McMillan and Travis Hunter
as wide receiver one and wide receiver two.
I would then have a pretty open conversation
with Lemon, Tyson and Trey Wilson with,
actually I'd throw Denzel Boston in there as well.
I would have all four of those guys,
my top four wide receivers in a conversation
with Luther Byrne and Emeka Ibuka.
But I would have all of them above Matthew Golden
because I was a little bit lower on Matthew Golden.
Yeah.
I would have Golden closer to sort of like Antonio Williams,
but I do think I'd probably have Golden
maybe a little bit higher than Antonio Williams.
I'd have Hunter McMillan and a Buca one, two, three.
I'd have Tyson at four, but very, very close.
Tyson, if Tyson has the year this year
that I think he could have,
I'd have Tyson only behind Hunter.
I think he's that good.
Okay.
But after that, it does open up with Carnell Tate
and Denzel boston
And who was um, I want to pull my rankings again and and lemon those guys would be
In the jaden hagen's matthew golden territory for me right now. Okay. I think I think that it would be i'd have round two tet
Tet would tet still one travis hunter still two. I think i'd still have Luther Byrne the third at three. I think I'd probably have McKay Lemon.
No, I think I'd maybe have McKay Lemon next.
And then in Mecha Ibuka, or maybe I'm flipping that,
but then I would have Jordan Tyson, Eugene Wilson,
and Denzel Boston, I think, right after that.
Maybe I would have Matthew Golden ahead of Denzel
Boston, but even that I don't, I'm not confident in. So they wouldn't topple those first two guys,
in my opinion, but then they're this four is, is in that late first round, early second round
conversation, in my opinion, with the, with the guys we have in 2026. There we go. 15 wide receivers,
our top 15 wide receivers for the 2026 NFL draft.
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