Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: J Cole apologizes, Petty breakups

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss J. Cole apologizing for his Kendrick Lamar diss, the pettiest thing people do after breakups, and much more! 0:00 Thoughts on J.Cole vs Kendrick Lamar beef18:00 Nightcap Tales42:00 Spell-O-Cinco48:30 Dunk on Unc54:00 Q and Ayyyyy1:00:00 Much More Nightcap! #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. J. Cole apologizes to Kendrick Lamar for dissing him on 7 Minute Drill at Dreamville Fest. J. Cole said, How many of y'all think Kendrick Lamar is one of the greatest ever to pick up a mic? I haven't been sleeping right the last few days.

We taking that diss off streaming service. Ocho, what's your thoughts listen Jay Cole is one of the greatest one of the greatest lyricist one of the greatest MC's Kendrick Lamar is that as well Drake at times he says he's the greatest as well this is the perfect opportunity this is the perfect opportunity ain't nothing got nothing to do with violence it's about your craft it's about your penmanship it's about what you do best this is what we as fans we as fans of rap they've been beasts for so long and

what do they do they go to the booth and they handle it. I think maybe J. Cole mentally is in a different state. Maybe mentally he's in a different state and he wanted to take back, you know, what he said because mentally he's not there right now. Is that what we want to see as fans? No, we want to see people battled out in the booth. We want to see Drake answer back. We want to see Kendrick go back and forth. We want to see J. Cole respond. Obviously, J. We want to see Drake answer back. We want to see Kendrick go back and forth We want to see J Cole respond obviously J Cole responded and he took it back and apologized This is I mean think about what if it was 50 cent

What if it's 50, you know what all 50 is done and all the beefs he's been in and making it exciting, you know There's been no violence There's been nobody, you know a little fight here a little bruise a little punch here and there but nothing to the extent it's exciting it makes it fun and it gets the blood flowing especially in the rap game just a little beef there's nothing wrong

with it just handy a business in the booth yeah I mean look I mean the beef go back. LL Cool Moe D, Big Daddy Kane was one of the great emcees on the mic. Could go at any day. There have been so many. Look, Jay-Z and Nas.

Jay-Z and Nas. You know, keep it at the pin. It's okay. Are people mad that Jay-Z and Nas you know keep it at the pin it's okay are people mad that Jay-Z and Nas cool now probably not because they gave us

exactly what we wanted they gave us entertainment okay you got that the man says okay fine you got that though so they good that right or you still

are you still upset that they cool nah nah nah no not me I'm asking I'm asking people are you okay now that Jay-Z and Nas are cool?

They said what they said. They wrote what they wrote, but they're cool now. Are you okay? Or do you still care to have them beat? I mean, we like to have the Hatfields and McCoy. We like to keep something. I don't know why. It's okay to have differences, have a disagreement, and then come together and say, you know what, man? Hey, we're bigger than that. We're better than that. Let's move it's okay like have differences have a disagreement and then come together and say you know what man hey we bigger than that we better than that let's move it along no no no i think

it's a part of the game like in hockey an unwritten rule in hockey is sometimes you know what we gonna fight i think there's shit there i listen i, I'm not this rap guru, but I'm saying, I think an unwritten rule, when things aren't going right and you have an issue with somebody, handle it through the pen. There's nothing wrong with that. That's healthy.

That's healthy. How good is your pen? You feel you're one of the best? Now's your time to show the rest of the world. If I'm cool, for me, I've always been one of these guys. If I'm cool with you, I'm, I've always been one of these guys. If I'm cool with you,

I'm cool with you. I'm not trying to gain nothing if I'm cool with you. Now, if we're on opposite sides, oh yeah. If I don't, if Cole and Kendrick didn't rock with each other, it is what it is. It's coming from somewhere, though. It's coming from somewhere.

I don't know the extent of where it came from. I hear it like everybody else when they hear it i hear the finished product i don't know why it came about but i heard i heard kendrick's what kendrick said on on um can't you say the big three it's just big me yeah listen i listened to it i'm like oh but hey that was nice that was nice so i'm like i, I'm waiting on Drake. I'm waiting on J. Cole. J. Cole responded. Drake is very methodical.

He's very strategic in the way he does things. He does things on his time. When you least expect it, I'm sure he might respond. And I'm not sure why J. Cole took back the diss and apologized. And if I'm not mistaken mistaken i saw it on twitter kendrick lamar has had three people apologize after saying something about him jay jay electronic jay electronica if i'm saying his name the right way there was one person and now jay cole there's three people that have came out and said something about kendrick

and they come back and recanted themselves and apologize. I'm not sure why. Maybe they're scared of Kendrick. When it comes to the pen, his penmanship is phenomenal. He's a great lyricist. Yeah, I think Cole is a good lyricist. You gotta be built for that too, man. You gotta be built for that.

Because this is not going in a studio and making music with a beat. You gotta hit it where it hurts. You gotta have a little dirt on somebody, you gotta know everything about them, put it in an artistic form with your pen. Yeah. But I still say hit them up,

I mean, they was good, but this ain't hit them up. This ain't no Vaseline, this ain't none of that. Oh, no, no, no, no. You know, those was classics classics even to this day yeah

even to this day but I mean yeah yeah I mean listen the rap girlies are really really taking over as far as entertainment goes as far as beef they, as far as beef.

They taking it to the pen. Yeah. But you know, women can't. I mean, y'all be hugged up one day and the next thing you know, y'all dissing each other the next day. I'm like, damn. I mean, but it's good for the game. It's good for the game. Just

what they do, you know? Oh, yeah. Who went at know? Who went at Drake? Somebody went at Drake with the story of Aiden. Who was that? Pusha T? Pusha, yeah.

Pusha went at Drake. That was a good one. That was a good battle. That was a good battle. Hell, Drake and Meek, that was also good. Drake, very strategic, very methodical. It was planned out. And he executed, you know,

and then, I mean, it was dope. I think it's good. I think it's good as long as they keep it in the booth. Keep it in the booth. Keep it at the pen. You know, you cross paths in the street. You don't need no fighting,

no shooting, and all that, man. Man, look here. You don't need no, no fighting, no shooting and all that, man. Man, look here. Don't need all that, man. Yeah. I mean, I mean, because I think the thing is people like, man, I wouldn't. Bro, you human. You human. I don't care.

I don't care how big you are. Somebody there. There's only so much a person can take. Take. Right. Right. So all that, man, I got all this. No, no, no.

And so nobody, somebody going to say something. You're going to respond. Yeah, right. Right. So all that, man, I got all this no, no, no. And so nobody somebody gonna say something, you're gonna respond. Yeah. And Ocho, I heard you have some good news today about your daughter. What's going on? Hey, hey, hey, hey, let's go. First of all, after

experiencing, I didn't go to HBCU, obviously you know that. Now I'm jealous of you a little bit I'm jealous of you because if you had the opportunity to experience what I saw tonight at Preview A&M

at their probate where my baby she went over yeah she crossed over as an AKA and I ain't never been in no atmosphere like that

now obviously I'm an ambassador at FAMU but I haven't had the opportunity most of the time that I'm there it been in no atmosphere like that. Now, obviously, I'm an ambassador at FAMU, but I haven't had the opportunity most of the time that I'm there. It's in a sporting event or I'm at a football game. But being inside that auditorium and watching the energy

in that atmosphere. Listen, I got to take my glasses off. I ain't never seen nothing like that. That kind of energy, that kind of passion, that kind of love and support from all the sororities, from all the fraternities, for the people that were crossing over.

Even though you have nothing to do with them. Oh, talk about family. It felt like a family reunion almost. It was that kind of vibe. It was that kind of atmosphere. Yeah, for sure. The AKs went last. The AKs went last.

They came out. It was like, this is the only way I can explain it. It felt like Michael Jackson. You know how the audience go crazy and everybody stands up and goes crazy when Michael Jackson came out on stage? Yeah.

When them AKAs came out and marching to that song, the song that they come out, uh, uh, uh, ee, and AKA, I don't want to sing it because it might be disrespectful, but there's a reason why. And I see my baby. Oh shit, boy, I'm about to cry. And I see my baby. Oh, shit. I'm about to cry. Hold on, hold on. And I see my...

Let me put my glasses on for people to try to screenshot me and laugh at me. And I see my baby strutting and hitting that stroll. Oh, man. That's awesome, man. That's awesome.

Oh, man. That was one of... Oh, shit. Damn. But that was one of the greatest feelings. One of the dopest feelings, man. And obviously, being able to see my daughter cross

and her mama, you know, her mama, her mama is the AK too. But no, that was great. Listen, I'm supposed to be in the stands. I'm all on the floor. I'm all, I done snuck down on the floor. Man, you in the show, man. You all there trying to be there to know,

you know, we gonna pause that. But you all up in the video like. snuck down on the floor. Man, you in this show, man. You all done tried to be there to know, you know, we gonna pause that. But you all up in the video like... I wasn't in the video. I was recording though. So I just, I just wanted to get, I wanted to get good footage because ain't no telling if,

I don't know if my daughter gonna, you know, she gonna pledge. I don't know if my son gonna pledge to Arizona State. So, man, it's just that moment, man. Boy, that was live, boy. Hey, that was live. That was live. Oh, it's unbelievable. I know, I know she probably, Shadi, I know you probably moment, man. Boy, that was live, boy. That was live. That was live. Oh, it's unbelievable.

I know you're probably watching. Your mom was watching. I like that. You made your daddy proud. You made your daddy cry tonight. That shit was live. That energy at HBCUs, man. Ain't nothing like it, bro.

Like I said, I think everybody should have to spend a semester at an hbcu to get the ambiance to get the pageantry to be at a homecoming to have to go to the step shows because there ain't nobody stepping like what they do uh we we do it big and to be at the yard when all the when all the sorrows and frats are in the park and they're doing their thing and they're getting ready because they'll have you know we used to have step shows and people come you know georgia southern and fort valley and clark and mo brown and all these people would come down and they challenged man and to feel that energy for home coming and oh and like you said the rush when when they when they go over ain't nothing like it yeah the funny thing about it this was not something small. This is very big.

So now I can just imagine something like homecoming. Oh, that's a nice thing. I can imagine what homecoming is like, man. I'm like, I got experience, but then obviously when FAMU has their homecoming,

I'm working. So I really can't, I can't shoot out and shoot back. That thing buzzes. That thing buzzes. Last year, my daughter had, Daddy, come out to homecoming.

You're going to love it. It's a great experience i say baby i ain't gonna be able to make this y'all you know y'all on saturdays and i gotta be over yonder but and just hearing the stories it's one thing to watch the videos i've been watching clips obviously you know how much i love hbcu bands especially fam and southern watching clips and seeing all the stuff going on and then being able to experience it today, tonight, at PV. Man,

that makes me want to enroll just so I can get the HBCU experience. I ain't never experienced nothing like that. Mind you, I done been around the whole world. I done been everywhere. There is nothing like what I experienced tonight.

I ain't got nothing against PWI, though, Joe. Anybody that went to a PWI, bless your heart. Proud of you. But ain't nothing like an HBCU. Not for pageantry, not for buzz, not for electricity, not for excitement. Nah. Y'all can't touch that. You don't understand. Y'all can't touch that. Y'all can't touch that.

Y'all can't touch that. Listen, it was 50 girls. 58 Ks crossed over the night. When they came out. That's a big line. Yeah, big line. When they came out, lines of 25-25. And they came out strutting.

They had on the, one line had on the pink scarves, one line had on the pink scarves, one line had on the green scarves. They had their shades on. And when they hit that, I can't do it because that's disrespectful. They came with a,

they came with a main statement on them, Joe. What? I got, I got the routine. I know the routine because she was doing the routine and I'm holding the camera.

I'm copying her. I'm off to the side doing what she doing. I'm like, and she hit me after. She's like, Daddy, Daddy, you can't be doing that. Like I would try to hit the mirror. Like, you know, I can't do it.

I'm trying to throw my pinky up in the picture. She's like, daddy, you can't do that. You can't do that. So now her mama had to explain it to me. But I'm just, you know me, I'm all about fun. I'm all about fun. And now I understand how serious it is. And I think that's why I appreciate it so much.

And I think that's why I got so emotional while I was recording. Oh, my goodness. I'm finna enroll back in school, man. I'm enrolling. I'm enrolling, fam. After this football season ends and I work, I'm going to do all my nightcaps from FAMU. I wish I might. That's why I took my ass back to school

to finish up my degree as soon as I got. Because I had like, I had two quarters. We was on the quarter system back then. I had two quarters left. I said, man, let me get my ass back in here. Because after this, and I hadn't got a little money in my pocket. Who knows?

Anybody that got money in their pocket didn't go back to school. And still went back. Yeah. I'm making a bunch of the teachers. Man, I ain't trying to hear what y'all got to say. Sitting up in a classroom. Hell nah, man.

Let me get my degree. I had already a promise. I'm like, hey, hey. My brother said, yeah. He's like, hey, you going back, right? I was like, yeah, I'm going to get that thing, bro. Yeah. And I know my grandma and my mom.

My mom was so, so, my grandmother and my mom was so proud of me to, you know, me and my brother was first and I was second to get to go to college and get a degree. Man, I was like, and plus I had to come that far, like two quarters. So basically, January through May, I'll be done with school and I have my degree. Man, please. I said, man, I have my degree. Man, please. I'm going back and then you know. You know you're born in y'all. You know you're born in y'all. I need

my degree, aunt. I need my degree. Just to bring everything full circle, to bring it full circle and not just use going to college as a stepping stone to get to the NFLfl i finished that feat i did well with that feat now i'm gonna i'm gonna make grandma proud i'm gonna go back i'm gonna go back obviously i'm going to roll it i'm gonna roll that fam at some point and get that full hbc experience obviously i'm a force rail

where i know you're watching i know you're watching my boss how to come down now i'm not sure i don't i shouldn't have that much. Maybe a quarter, maybe two left and get my degree. Well, I sure hope so, Ojo. I sure hope you ain't further away than when you went to school. Hopefully you did something while you was there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know what also? Not only am I going to go to school, I want to be in the band. I want to be in the band. I'm going to ask Dr. Shelby Chipman if I could be in the band. I want to try and be the drum major. I want to be in the band I want to be in the band I'm going to ask Dr. Shelby Chipman if I could be in the band I want to try and be

the drum major I want to be a drum major because you know I'm tall now you know I'm tall now I can play I can play about three, four instruments so I'm not sure

what qualifies to be a drum major the drum major don't play no instruments Ocho no I'm just telling you I'm telling you I'm telling you about my resume

and what I can do I'm telling you what I resume and what I can do. I'm telling you what I can do. I don't think playing an instrument has any role on being a drum major. Oh, the no prerequisites? No? No. Okay, okay. I just, the more you can do.

The more you can do. So if I don't make a drum major. You're not going to be playing the trumpet, the trombone, or the drums? No, no, no, no, no. I don't want to play none of that. I want to be the drum major. I need the height. You know, I got the height, you know, slim, no, no, no. I don't want to play none of that. I want to be the drum major. I need, I need, I need the height. You know, I got the height,

you know, slim, you know, you know, man, I'm telling you. Can you do the split? What? Yeah, I can do the split. You want me to show you? Hey, does somebody have to come pick your ass up off the ground?

No, no, I'm flexible now. I'm flexible. I'm flexible. I can do, I can do the split. I'm, you know, March. I'd be, I can do the split. You know, March, I'd be, what? But all jokes aside, I know I'm still playing around. I'm going to roll next year. I'm going to roll.

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This is time for Nightcap After Dark. Nightcap After Dark. Hey. Hey. Hey. Time for this week's question of the week which is what is the pettiest thing that you did after a breakup here's some of our best answers oh man jota man this dude man or somebody you know i got a real jell Austin. He put a bag of uncooked prawns, scallops, and tilapia in her air vent. Took her a month to trace the rancid smell.

Then used her email to schedule a plastic surgeon callback to consult her about the vaginal, what is that? Vaginoplasty? She didn't need it for real, but I just wanted to plant that seed of doubt. Man, bro, you wrong for this. That's messed up. You real wrong for this one, man.

Man, you know how, man, it's something about seed. I don't even let my chef cook. I don't even let her cook fish in my house. It's something about seafood. I don't even like to like, I don't even let my chef cook, I don't even let her cook fish in my house. It's something about seafood. The smell bothers you, huh? I knew it, I knew it, I knew it, I knew it. The fact that you can't

eat it either, just the smell of it should probably bother you. Ash has sushi and put it in the bag of the trash. I pro-lily dump the trash. You know, you better get up out of here. Somebody had some fish tonight. Who had fish tonight? Jordan, what you had?

You ain't eat nothing. Somebody had some. Hey, that's a good one. You ever did anything? You know, honestly, you ever did anything? Ocho, know hell no yeah you gotta realize you gotta realize i've kind of always been shannon sharp right right right so i i wasn't able to do stuff that yeah dude i like i would have probably i i don't know i mean no no, no. Because at the end of the day, like, people knew my sister

and my brother was already in college and then he was in the league. You can't do too much. So, you know, hey, I just took a L. Hey, you want to break up? You know, I just take a L. I'm okay.

You know, still to this day, the fact that the first thing you just said, I'm still Shannon Sharp. So anytime you tell me your stories about people that have left you for whatever reason, like, I'm sitting back thinking. So anytime you tell me your stories about people that have left you for whatever reason, like I'm sitting back thinking like,

like women are supposed to be very strategic. Women are supposed to play the long game. Women are supposed to understand who they have, who they have and understanding what's to come. Potential.

Understanding potential and see what's to come. Like that's why I always say, why the hell are they leaving you? Like what's going on? And the thing is, I just like, it's okay.. Like, that's why I always say, why the hell are they leaving you? Like, what's going on? Yeah, look, and the thing is, Ocho, I just, like,

it's okay. I mean, look, I've ended relationships. I've had relationships ended. Like I say, if a woman tells me, Ocho, she say, don't call me no more. Okay, I'm done.

And you done. Why you ain't call? I say, because you told me not to call. Right, right, right, right? I said, because you told me not to call. Right, right, right, right. Because the first, you tell me not to call. I call, what's up, man? Now, Shannon Sharp been harassing me.

Now that's in the paper. People looking at me sideways. Right, right, right, right. Hey, you tell me not to call? You ain't got to tell me but once. You good. Delete. Hey, out my phone.

That's the way i operate right because i can't i can't i can't run the risk of i'm you're never gonna have to work you won't find one woman in all my years i'll be 56 in june if the lord spare my life yes sir you won't never find a woman say i pulled up on that he just showed up at my house. He showed up at my apartment. Never. Yeah. Yeah. No, I've never had...

Listen, I've been dating... Let's see if I've been dating since 1985. Since 1985, everybody has left me for reasons that were my fault. So I had... I ain't gonna say I ain't with our fault now. I ain't say that.

Oh, no. Yeah, okay. I'm just saying. So if I'm at fault, then I damn sure can't have no goddamn attitude about them. Yeah, I am too. Exactly. And you know they give you more than one chance. Yeah. You know they give you more than one chance.

I have a couple of them that say, no, that ain't me. I'm gone. Wait, they give you one chance? That's it. One? Once Oh shit They ain't gonna be with nobody They ain't gonna be with nobody But if you think

You finna be with somebody And ain't gonna be No issues And no problems Relationships are not And never will be Peaches and cream Be at the top of the mountain

All the time Yeah No peaks And no valleys And no lows That's not reality that's not real life it's just not it's just not now you can minimize as you get older your discipline gets a lot better i can tell you that your discipline your discipline gets a lot better you're not as

you're not as reckless with some of the things that you used to do back in the day and um the the right the right And the right person, the right person gets you to change too now. The right person to sit you down. Yeah, it happens. It happens. Okay, Miz underscore nah. He forgot he gave me a spare key

and called me from the job to tell me he wanted to take a break. Then his homeboy called to let me know. That ain't really his homeboy. He was trying to hit you. I'm going to read this story. He called to let me know he had caught my man and his girl in bed together the night before. Whoa, whoa, whoa. The guy, the lady, she said

her man gave her, she had a spare key. He called from work to tell her he wanted to take a break. His homeboy then calls her and tells her that he caught her man who just broke up with her in bed with his girl.

Golly! So he broke up because he knew the dude was telling. So that's what he did. He knew his hard boy was going to tell him. He tried to beat it to the punch. Yeah. Get out in front of the story. Oh, Joe.

Always, hey. Get out in front of the story. You see, what you do, ask for forgiveness. It's easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission You see what I'm saying don't you I'm sorry So he broke up Because he knew the dude was telling

I remembered I had the key so I went to his house With the intention to tear it up But then I saw his collection of fitted caps And Jordan I proceeded to cut all the visors off the hat All of them I put the bleach in the bathtub and gave the Jordans a bath.

Oh, I don't destroying, destroying personal items. Ocho, because you got something in your possession that you, that means something to you. Yeah, but those are things that women,

they break windows, they flatten tires, they crash their key cars. Maybe it's the jersey that you caught 265 yards in. Maybe it's that Pro Bowl jersey that you and Ray Lewis traded. Maybe it's those helmets that you traded at the Pro Bowl, but you got something. Yeah, I've never dealt with that type

that would go to the extent of vandalizing personal possessions that they didn't pay for. Something that, oh, Hurricane Paul, what's it, Pauline? Hurricane Paula. Hurricane Paula. You got something to hers.

Like, one lady, her boyfriend Paula. You, you, you got something to hers. Like one lady, her, her, her boyfriend, she donor. She took his, his mom's ashes and dumped them out on the bridge. Yeah.

I saw that. I saw that. I saw that. Yeah. But that, that's Chris. That's Craig. Great.

That boy. I ain't. I don't want, I don't want none of that. Yeah. That's Mercedes says I cut all the zippers out of one of my ex's jeans when I was 24 years old. Since he wanted to cheat so much,

I gave him easy access. She cut all the zippers out? Cut all the zippers out. Yeah, nah, that's a good one. I like that. I like that. I just want to say, I took all the right shoes, all the toilet paper, and the light bulbs out of the house.

We put wet gum and a sack of weed. I was held when I was well. Hey, that's funny. Man, y'all doing too much with me. He took all my silverware me he took all my silverware he took all the silverware yeah hello

guys I guess they do but I guess guys be be cutting up and be doing all that kind of stuff continue to show continue to show up continue to show up

at his games with his family not my fault they still love me. Hey, that's funny. Rhea. Ah, man. Shady Saocho.

Yeah. Let him travel to Vegas on my flight companion pass, then cancel his companion status flight while he was in Vegas. Call that B you get to come home to. That's a good one. That's a good one. Sent her husband

a pic of us being romantic. Ooh! Ooh! See, that's what I'm telling you, Ocho. That's what I'm telling you, Ocho. See what I'm saying, Ocho? Sent a picture of them being romantic to her husband? Sent her husband a picture of us.

That's what he did. Oh, he, come on, man. Yeah, yeah, that's flawed, man. Come on, man. No, no, no, no, I mean, normally, you know, dudes normally, no, come on, man. Yeah, he got a flaw, man. Come on, man. No, no, no, no. I mean, normally, you know, dudes normally, no, they play their part. That's overplaying your part, man. Come on.

Oh, Joe, I'm an extra. I ain't the lead. I'm not Denzel. I'm Terry Crews in Training Day. I'm just standing there with my shirt on. That's it. You know what you is in this movie? Yeah.

Come on, bro. And more and more. And listen, that, you know, I'm going to leave that alone. I'm going to leave that alone. Yo, you see, they be doing too.

Ocho, Ocho. You know the role. When you sign up for the job, when you go on a job, they might need janitorial services. They might need a cashier. They might need a manager. They might need somebody to wash the window.

Okay, what job are you applying for? Okay, you know that person got somebody. If you accept that job, play your role. Yeah. And then the funny thing, so now this is how you play yourself. Because now you're going to send it a picture.

If you're number two and you're trying to move number one out the way so you can go from two to one, then all of a sudden you become number one and at some point the cycle repeats itself. You're going to be number two? You're going to be number two. Yes!

Every time. Why? Why You going to be number two? You going to be number two. Yeah. Every time. I ain't never been that type of dude. Why? If you number two, you not even supposed to take that serious because you already know how she, if she could play with number one, like,

would you? It's not your part. You already know what it is. Man, don't get me, why? Don't get me started. Play your role and go home,

bro. Don't get me started. Now, they be doing too much, man. They be doing too much, man. They be doing too much. I don't get that. Man, I'm upset, little boy. Because, like I said, I try to stay in my place.

Now, just tell me up front. Shannon, I got somebody. Normally, I don't really get down like that, Ocho, because let me tell you how men operate. Yes, sir. Men might not want that woman, that wife, or that girlfriend he got. Let another man show interest in him. Because your girl is new to him.

See, while you out there thinking you'll get some new one. Right. Your wife or your girl new to him. Mm-hmm. He know that. Yeah.

The game has been the game for a very long time, Monk. And I tell you like I told you before. You learn to play it. I can't get mad. Yeah. Look, hey. Do you. I don't look hey

do you I ain't finna get mad I ain't finna throw no clothes out I ain't finna just hey I don't do all that hey we both made decisions now let's go

go ahead okay but I can't I can't even look at a dude the same way he gonna send a husband bro dude man dudes go crazy about stuff like that man oh yeah oh hey you gotta be careful now that's what stopped me Ocho

remember I told you the story remember I told you I got caught a couple of times and I know how that thing could have ended I already know if he walked in with that chopper Remember I told you I got caught a couple of times? And I know how that thing could have ended. I already know if he walked in with that chopper and your boy was shaking the covers, coach, I can't tell you this story because I ain't here to tell you.

No, sir. So I already know. So now Shannon got to stop putting himself in that situation because, you know, they're not being upfront. I get it. Okay, Shannon, I'm in the, you know, I'm in Savannah. I'm the big fish.

They're not going to be up and up. Oh, I'm with, man, but you put me in harm's way. Right, yeah. They don't think like that. They don't think like that. But I'm mad. I'm still mad at him. I'm still mad at him. I can't believe this. Miss Sherry, to you, when I put my eggs out,

he took all the screws off the door hinge except one. It was hanging. He took the toilet seats off. He took the shower head. He took the light bulbs out the room. He cut the wires to my ring camera and my doorbell. But he probably had that

bang, bang. But he was in love. See, that's when they start we're making a joke we're making a joke of it Ocho for you to go to that kind of extreme that's hurt

hurt make you do some crazy stuff Ocho we all been hurt before you just gotta take hey, take that one on the chin. Damn. Breaking up is easy when you doing the one that's breaking up. Hey. Felicia

Temple, my ex definitely moved out while I wasn't home. Moved the bed, took the extension cord that plugged the lamp into the wall, put the whole bed back and I was in the dark and couldn't even move the bed, took the extension cord that plugged the lamp into the wall, put the whole bed back. And I was in the dark and couldn't even move the bed to reach the plug. Hey, I called my bank and reported that I had fraud on my account and they gave me gave gave me back the last three months of the car payment for

the car that was in her name. Wow. Man, they be doing, look. Y'all, I'm glad I ain't had to deal with that. Yeah, Ocho. Man, like I said, I broke up. She said, Shannon, I want to move on. Okay. Yeah.

That's it? You just let it go? Ocho, but i had gotten her uh a lease i had leased a car for uh i said so what i said so what you want to do i said you you want to keep the truck she said you know you know you mind if i keep it i said all i ask you to do you know how many miles you can put on the car don't go over wait a minute you let her keep the truck after she broke up with you keep it what i'm gonna do with it what i'm gonna do with it i already got i already got i already got six cars take take it back take it back take it back to the dealership get your money back sell it no no no i say okay and and uh she hey call me hey i turned the car in here um I called I called the company they said I can turn

it in here I said you she's like you think I would you think I would go over after you was nice enough to this day yeah to this day she'll call me ask me how I'm doing ask me um ask me how the kids are doing because you know she was around my kids when they were really young. She'd take them to the Halloween party, take them to the amusement park. So, cool. I'm cool. Look, we have fun. We do what we did. We work together.

I used to be, I mean, when I was younger, man, don't even look at me. If I think you're going to be somewhere, I ain't going. Right, right. But I've been very fortunate. For the most part, I don't think I've ever seen with my own two eyes be someplace and see somebody I dated

with someone else. I don't know, Howard, have you ever seen somebody? Have you ever seen somebody publicly that you dated and seen them? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Howard, have you ever seen somebody, have you ever seen somebody publicly that you dated and seen them? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you know,

my friend, lad. What, what's up, what? You good? How you doing, sis? All right. Well, y'all have a good evening. You know, and go about my business

because the way I look at it is that's one less, that's one less expense for me. Well, that's your responsibility now. I look at it, listen, I look at it is that's one less expense for me. Well, that's your responsibility now. I look at it, listen, I look at it, I use numbers for everything. Right. Okay, boom. Okay, I get to take that one off the books.

Just like owners now, you know, when they cuss somebody, they want to get that money off the books. You want to get that money? That's the way I look at it. That's the way I look at a breakup. It's the same thing. No, no disrespect. But I don't do the thing.

I don't do like, oh, see what women. I think sometimes when women make mistakes and possibly put guys in harm's way or make somebody feel or tell. If you don't know, if he doesn't know that at some point in time that we ever had a relationship. Why are you telling him because he gonna look at me some type of way right I ain't telling nothing you ever

mess with her who no some stuff I'm a guy some stuff you just take to your grave grave yeah you just take it to your grave because if you can keep confusion down i don't want that man to look at me any kind of way than what he always looked at me right hey man sharp cool well if he know he gonna feel some type of way, even if they weren't together at the time of the encounter. Right. Happen. Still gonna feel some type of way.

So, you know what? Hey, don't mention my name. I put itching powder in his drawers. Y'all be, they be doing too much. I done seen they get a couple of people like that in training camp the rookies the ancient powder

check this out cancelled his insurance and didn't tell him and got a collect call from jail a couple of weeks later because he was driving without insurance when I answered on the recording he was cursing me out he knew she did it huh

yeah damn that's ooh that's bad spooky mookie said accidentally left the lid open for a container of cricket she kept as food for her lizard when I last was there he accidentally

but y'all mean y'all ain't really love y'all partners man doing all this stuff He accidentally. But y'all mean y'all ain't really love y'all partners, man. Doing all this stuff to him. Oh, Joe, check this out. Dropped a hundred and fifty thousand dollar debt we had accumulated on her head on a wedding day. Surprise, babe. Wait, what? I guess he like he backed out of the wedding and left

$150,000 on her I guess they had been the debt I guess they had accumulated debt and was supposed to be getting married that day and he backed out is that what you're deducing from that he said I dropped $150,000 debt that we had

accumulated on her head on a wedding day. Surprise, babe. She did something wrong, what? Yeah, she did something wrong. Took all the carpet in the house that I had installed, took the furniture I bought also. Well, damn. Sheesh. Mm. ball also. Well, damn. Sheesh. Hmm.

Now, I mean, when you hear about some of these things that people have done to each other, do you think they even liked each other at all? Because when you... Yeah, I think you... Me, also me,

because this is how I think, especially when it comes to women. And I've always thought like this. And I really thought like this. I got daughters. Yeah. I got a mom and I got a sister. Yes, sir.

They say you can tell a lot about a man by how he treats the women in his family. I hold the women in my family with very, very high regard. I don't call women out of their name. Sometimes I want to. I don't put my hands on women. I don't do anything because I got daughters.

I got a sister. I got a mom. I had a grandmother at the time. And so I always think. Now, have I been perfect? And I remember telling my daughter, I said, Lord, have mercy. Mm hmm. Because O'Shea was held when he was well, Ocho. And I know karma.

Whoo. Yeah. and I know karma whoo yeah but I ain't all about that I ain't doing nobody because I don't want nobody doing my daughter I don't want nobody cutting up my daughter's stuff and doing all kind of foolishness like that so look they might get some

of the dad's karma but it won't be for bulljohn like this. Right. Cavalier said through his only set of truck keys in the lake. That's tough. Damn.

Lord have mercy. Y'all bad out there man I don't know what the hell Very Damn You better do Rel right Ain't no telling what Rel do Cause Rel got that heater Yeah I mean she got a military background

I know Rel might make you disappear Man I don't want no problem man Yeah, I mean, she got a military background, man. I know. Mail might make you disappear. Man, I don't want no problem, man. I just, listen, I just want to live life. If you ever miss work, hey, if you ever get in trouble, you miss work, hey, I'm sending the folks. I don't want no issues, but I'm old, man. I'm 56.

I ain't got time for them problems no more. I don't want to auger. I just want to smoke my cigar, play my video game, and do nightcap. Yeah, that's it. Ocho, time for your favorite segment. It's called Spello Cinco. I didn't even know we were spelling tonight.

I didn't even know we were spelling tonight. Ocho, this is the easiest word. You say that every time. And every time is a difficult word. This is the place Ocho played most of his NFL career. Cincinnati. Oh, come on, man. C-I-N-N-A-T-T-I.

Come on, man. Don't do that, man. Roll. That was right. C-I-N-N-A-T-I. That's what I just said. You said T-T. I said T-I. T-I.

Got it wrong. Chat, did he get it wrong? No Now y'all cheating Now y'all cheating me now How you think I cheated you? Cause I just spelled it right No you didn't Okay how about this

We gonna give you this one Curator of the spine is called scoliosis. What? Scoliosis. Scoliosis? Yeah. You don't want that one. Okay, you know what, Ocho?

Okay, how about this here? Come on. Okay, how about this one, Ocho? How about this one? I'm going to get this one. When you have congestion and it's backed up and you hark that thing up, it's called phlegm.

Phlegm? Phlegm. See, I know it's going to be an H, probably an H in there. Because I want to, I'm not saying this is how it's spelled. I want to say F-L-E-M, but I know that ain't it.

So I ain't going to do that. Okay. Now you know what can happen? It could also start with a P and really throw them off. Right. But I ain't going to do that either. What you going to do?

I'm going to go P-H-L-E-M. Am I right or wrong? Wrong. Damn. P-H-L-E-G-M. Phlegm. I knew it. I knew it was something tricky.

I knew it. Damn. And chat, y'all don't be laughing either cause chat I know y'all ain't know that either I know y'all ain't know no goddamn phlegm don't sit there and lie

how about this here Ocho uh David was a very timid person he was what we would call milquetoast man what

milquetoast I ain't even heard the word milquetoast before Milk toast. Man, what? Milk toast. I ain't even heard the word milk toast before. Milk toast? Yes. Milk. And I know it's not M-I-L-K. That ain't, that ain't,

it just wouldn't work like that. M-I-L-C-T-O-S. Damn! What the hell? LK. That ain't, that ain't, that just, it just wouldn't work like that. I'm a M-I-L-C T-O-S. Damn! What the hell? I don't know what the hell that was. You said milk. So where's the toast?

You said milk toast. You don't want to put the toast on there? Milk toast. M-I-L-Q-U-E-T-O-A-S-T. Milk toast. Well, you got to pronounce it the right way so I know what you're saying. I said milk toast i thought you

said toast toast not toast milk milk toast all right that's your fault you messed me up right there like hey like you know you say like carlos carlos yes that's? No, I'm just saying. Milk toast. Carlos. L-O-S at the end. You got to say toast. You got to pronounce that T. You got to... How about this one, Ocho? Staff alakas.

Staff alakas. Staff alakas? Yes. Please use the word... Staphyloccus. Staphyloccus. Staphyloccus? Yes. Please use the word. It's a bacteria commonly found in the skin of the nose. Staphyloccus? Staphyloccus. Can you use Staphyloccus in a sentence, please?

The staph infection was caused by Staphylococcus. Staphylococcus. Staphylococcus. Staph. Phallocus. S-T-A-P-H. S-T-A-P-H. Phallocus.

Phallocus. Phallocus. F-A-L-A-C-P-H. Falakis. Falakis. F-A-L-A-C-U-S. S-T-A-P-H-Y-L-O-C-O-C-C-U-L-U-S. Staff-a-Lock-us. You know what? I just want to know if there's anybody in the chat that has... No, they ain't getting that one, Ocho.

I know. You definitely... That one... You definitely going to be a spelling bee champ to get that one. I want to know if anybody in the chat was able to get... Forget Cincinnati. I got Cincinnati right. I want to know if anybody in the chat...

Yeah, I did. I want to know if anybody in the chat... You know what? Put it in the chat. Anybody in the chat got any of these right. Or just even more. Oh, so you didn't get Cincinnati. And I told Ash, I said, Ash, we're going to give this the easiest one he's going to have.

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And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Ocho, here it is. This is your opportunity to get me back. Now it's time for Dunk on Dunk. Hey, you're going to lose there. Hey,'s time for Dunk on Dunk. What time you got there? 10.30.

10.30? Yeah. My flight at 4 o'clock. I'm so excited. I'm coming to see you tomorrow. I'm going to be on the show. Okay. I'm going to just show up onclock. I'm so excited. I'm coming to see you tomorrow. I'm going to be on the show. Okay. I'm going to just show up on set. I'm serious. I'm serious.

I leave here at 4. So that's like 12 o'clock. Ain't no flight at 4 o'clock in the morning. I leave at 4.30. I promise you. I'm not playing. Ain't no flight at 4.30 in the morning. How are you going to tell me, man? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

United. Unc, man, how you gonna tell me, man? Hold on, hold on, hold on I'm, I'm seeing United 4.35 a.m. Oh, boarding begins at 4.35 My bad My bad My bad Oh, I landed, I landed I landed at 7 a.m. though So I'm coming to the

I'm coming to set Okay All right, here we go Dunk on on Dunk on on Here we go Question number one Who holds the NFL record

For most passing yards In their rookie season? Ooh Yeah Shaq, we got him Shaq, we got him Yeah Shaq we got him Shaq we got him We got him I think it's one or two people

I think It's one or two Yeah you said that already You ain't gave me no name yet I'm gonna go Justinin herbert it's justin herbert cj stroud yeah well unfortunately you know the answer is wrong the answer is wrong because you was loud and wrong because the answer is andrew luck who threw for 4 374 yards in 2012 obviously justin herbert was the correct answer if we were to talk about second NFL record holder for most yards in the rookie season.

Justin Herbert in 2020 threw for 4,336 yards. Oh, boy. Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. Question number two. In honor of Purdue playing the NCAA Men's National Championship game tonight, which former Boilermaker was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2009?

My homie, Woody, Rob Wilson. All right. Listen, we gave you that one. We gave you that question just to give you a little confidence, just to bring you back down to earth. I got it. I got it. I got it. All right.

You ready? Yep. Let's see how happy you are after this. Which running back has the longest touchdown run in NFL history, Super Bowl history? Which NFL running back has the longest touchdown run in Super Bowl history? Willie Parker. Hey, I just want to let you know the questions I get

that I have to... The words I have to spell... Listen, I'm going to tell you, the words I have to spell are much more difficult than these questions. But, okay. It was in Super Bowl 40.

All right. You're right. I remember. They won. Who were they Super Bowl 40. Alright, you're right. I remember. They won. Who were they playing? Arizona Cardinals, right? No. Seattle Seahawks. Okay, it was one or the other. Which Hall of Fame defense in is credited for coming... Excuse me. Which Hall of Fame defense in is credited for

coining the term sack? That was my hall boy from HBCU. The Deke. Deacon Jones. That's my homeboy. That's my dog. Rest your soul, Deke. You know, I'm going to have to go back to the drum boy with these questions.

Because here we go. All right, last one. Alright last one Last one Last one Come on Come on Come on We gonna get you right here Oh yeah

We gonna get you right here Two teams have 31 playoff losses Which is most in the NFL The Cowboys are one of them With a postseason record Of 36 and 31 Which NFC team is the other That has 31 playoff losses?

Which, again, is the most in the NFL? Which NFC team? That means you had to be to the playoffs, go to the playoffs a lot of times. You know what? You know what, know what Ocho I'm going to miss this one on purpose just so you feel good

because you're going to thank somebody that gave me that one don't miss it on purpose go ahead and go ahead and do what you do do your justice 49ers wrong

the answer is the Minnesota Vikings let's go let's go it's alright damn I did bad tonight in spelling And I didn't spell it man You didn't spell one I was 0 for 5 huh Yeah

Yeah I spelled Cincinnati wrong I ain't really spelled it wrong I just added a T Because if you If you understand Well I spelled it wrong If you understand the slang If you understand the slang

In Cincinnati When we say Natty Natty You see how Natty Yeah It's like you gotta You gotta add the T We didn't ask you to spell Natty Natty, you see how Natty Yeah, yeah. You gotta add the T. We didn't ask you to spell Natty. We asked you to spell Cincinnati.

Yeah, but it's Cincinnati. You gotta drag it a little bit. You gotta talk like you're from the Natty. You got it wrong. With three G's. Wrong. Wrong. Okay, Ojo, it's time for our last segment of the night and it's the q and a d love said y'all need to have y'all need a a jar on the show then whoever swears the most in Spello Cinco dunk on

Unk contest for the month to get the cat man you know I'm a win man Ocho be cursing up a storm I didn't curse tonight I didn't curse tonight I caught myself one time at the beginning I told you I'm not going to curse no more I'm telling you you know what I need to do Unk I promise you this is my problem

this is my problem I need to do? I promise you. This is my problem. This is my problem. I need to go get baptized again. Because the last one is wearing off. That's all it is. That's all it is. The last one is wearing off. It is. It is.

And I'm a God-fearing man. I'm a God-fearing man. And I don't think God or Jesus used to curse. And I'm trying to follow in their footsteps. In all facets of my life. And I think I'm trying to follow in their footsteps in all facets of my life. And I think I'm going to do that. I'm going to get baptized again. All right.

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And Ocho, thank you so much. Yeah, we got to get to the bottom of this because this is unacceptable. The question is, is for your Q&A. Which Marvel MC movie or television series is

your favorite? Which hero or villain do you admire most? Mine is Wilson Fisk, Kingpin because of his high IQ. Super criminal and my favorite series is Daredevil. Marvel. Marvel? Oh, that's bad because I don't even watch no. Marvel. Marvel?

Oh, that's bad because I don't even watch no damn Marvel. My bad. The Hulk is mine. I mean, everybody knows the Hulk is mine. I mean, I got Hulk figurines not so much here

but in my place in Atlanta. I got a big old thing, canvas in my basement. So, the Hulk has always been mine So the Hulk has always been mine. The Hulk has always been mine. Yeah, I'm not good with that Marvel stuff.

I tell you, the only Marvel thing I saw was because of Twitter. And I think it was Infinity War with Thanos and Infinity Stones and I only caught on to that because they tweeted about it so much on my timeline because I follow the right people. Obviously the people in black Twitter, I follow the football and then I follow the analysts and journalists. So I got a mixture of everybody talking about the same thing and they all must

have watched it at the same time like a family. So I had no choice but to know about it. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy, how different do you think your life would have been if you played basketball professional instead of football? And Ocho, what if you played soccer professional instead of football? Oh, now we talking. Now we talking.

If I played, I wish. Man, Ocho, I always wanted to be big, though. And being big is not conducive. Having muscles is not conducive for playing basketball. Ben Wallace. I mean, Ben was big with Ocho. I mean. Dwight Howard.

They not benching what I was benching, Ocho. I mean, I was squatting down to 600 pounds, benching almost 500 pounds. What good is that going to do with a basketball foot? Well, you were benching 500? Damn near, like 475, 480. Hey, well, you... But I was only like 225, 230.

Yeah, I was right up under you. I was right up under you. You know, I benched... Pause that, Ocho. Pause that now. Oh, I mean... No, daddy. No, daddy. No, daddy, man. Come on, man. Come on, man.

I'm talking about... We got a whole lot of time out. Time out. We're out of time. We're out of time. Man, you see what I'm talking about, man of weight I can lift now. I've been, I've been. Yeah. Yeah.

What you said though. I know, but I was trying to, you know, I'll be a little bit more detailed in my description of what I'm referring to. You know what I'm saying? Come on now. I know how they play. My bad, my bad. I benched,

I mean, when I was playing, I benched, I won number, I won number by 215. I benched by 380. I squat about 550. By 550. I ain't even worried

about you squatting no 550. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was squatting 550. Yeah, about that. I mean, by the time I got to year 8 I had gotten so strong my lower extremities had gotten so strong I was almost squatting almost 700 I was working out with the

defensive lineman and the offensive lineman Ocho you might not I don't know if you could do if you did three lifts together you'd get 700 bench squat and deadlift I don't know if you'd do 700 i'm just telling you i'm just saying listen ask my strength my strengths my strength coach at the time is now the assistant athletic director at university kentucky ashley oliver ashley oliver you know you know right you were there you were there no yeah i know right but you were there with a chip in uh Yeah. You know Chip? Yeah.

Yeah, Chip. Chip was in Baltimore with me when I got there. Friday was the head. I tell you what, when you ask Chip, ask Chip what I did. Tripping Ray. Tripping Ray. Chip and Ray was there. Yeah, I went

to, when I first got there, I didn't really know nobody, so I so I really trust anybody right ask ask you I took four five off by myself five times set it back do the 160 12 reps by myself Oh, yeah With no spot no spot You warm up I did too. I warm up like it all because I was going heavy that day so I did like warm up I did 225 did 135 for 10 225 for like six then I did like 275 for like three then I'm good and warm

so okay I ended up going I ended up going like I did I did three I did 365 for 12. I did 385 for eight. I did 405 for six. Then I did like 430 for like four. Then I was done. Yeah. See, matter of fact, this who can attest to how strong I am,

even though I'm not physically imposing through the naked eye because they see a small frame, a thin frame. I was about 210. When I was in New England, I used to work out with Vince Wilford. Like, that's the kind of weight I was pushing at that point because, you know, I had old man strength. I think when I was in New England, I might have been about maybe 36, 37. Man, you would. You ain't before it now.

Now I'm 56 but listen when you talk about 405 you hit 405 well you got 405 for 12 reps no I did 405 for I did 405 for 5 I used to do like 365 I can do 365 for like

probably like 16-17 times okay yeah see me and Wolfhawk we used to go we used to battle We used to battle in the weight room. Like, that's how, I'm trying to give you a better context on how strong I was even though I was

such a small frame. But on the inside, I was very strong on the inside. And if you ever see Vince, I know Vince Wilford going to see this. Anybody in this chat know Vince Wilford?

Ask Vince how strong I was. It's a crazy sight to see. Yeah. Carlos Pons, would you have made the Hall of Fame if you were drafted by the Cowboys? Probably not. The Cowboys didn't have the type of offense. I wasn't ready to play in my rookie season,

and so I don't know if... Who was the coach then when I got there? Coach Landry. Oh, Jimmy. Jimmy was the coach. Jimmy. Yeah, Jimmy was the coach. And I don't know if they would have had the patience.

I don't know if Troy would have had the patience that Coach Reeves, my head coach had, and John Elway had with me. So, no, probably not. Probably not. I went to the perfect situation. It's not how high you go. It's where you go. I went to the perfect situation it's not it's not how high you go it's where you go I went to a seat

I went to a team that they were one of the three teams that had the H back position the Chargers Washington and the Broncos so no Lady Ray said if you were a wrestler what would your wrestling name be

in the entrance song? And Ocho, you can't pick my way. Damn, I can't. No, that wouldn't make no sense, especially not as a wrestler. What would my name be? Damn, that's a good one. I have so many songs. I like that. That's a good question songs I like that

that's a good question but what would your name the name you got to come up with a name first yeah I'll play off an army theme so I'll probably be Lieutenant Blackhawk

like Sergeant Slaughter yeah what would my name be? Midnight No No Nah Nah ain't no good

Rats name huh Nah hell nah Damn I know I know a song I would come out to though No, that ain't no good wrestling name, huh? Nah, hell nah. Damn. I know a song I would come out to, though. You might not remember. Remember what we do by Freeway? No?

Uh-huh. What? It ain't wrong. Nah, they say your day gonna be air be Ed Weighing in at 205 pounds From Liberty City, Florida Let's give it up for Milk Dun Hey, that's fine

Long as I got that theme song. You remember the song by Freeway, What We Do? The title is What We Do. It might be to me, if we would chat, stay with me real quick. If there was a Philly anthem that was a representation of Philly by an artist, it's either What We Do by Freeway or Meek Mill and Dreams and Nightmares. That's how good it is. I'll probably come out with Mystical Here We Go

or Roy Jones Can't Be Stopped. Oh, there's another one. Path to Troy. I come out to Path to Troy. I know Troy, so I have Troy. Yeah. Path to Troy got a few that would be perfect, perfect, perfect entrances for wrestling.

Oh, that's a good one. That's a good question. I like that. John Thomas said, what's up, Uncle Nocho? One night only to perform live to who you going to, hello,

who you going to see? Tyrone Davis, Johnny Taylor, Teddy P, Al Green, Marvin Grape. Who you going to see first? You can rank them first to last.

Well, Marvin gave first. I'm going to me. I'm going to see Marvin. Johnny Taylor, Al Green, Tyrone Davis. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now you,

take Johnny Taylor and switch him with Al Green. I like Johnny Taylor. I'm going to go with Johnny Taylor. Nah, listen. I like that order. Marvin Gaye, and then you're going to see Chetty P. Yeah, most definitely.

Marvin Gaye is number one, not just for his discography and the music that he has, but what he did with that Star Spangled Banner and that goddamn All-Star Game in 1984 and changing that rendition that has never been duplicated.

Ever been duplicated. You remember him singing the Star Spangled Banner at the All-Star Game? Yeah. In the All-Star Game? And the way he sung it? Yeah.

Man. But see, that's the thing. Everybody be trying to get a record deal. Do they already know they already got record deals? So everybody be trying to sing the Star Spangled Banner, trying to sing like Marvin Gaye or like Whitney Houston. Bro, go ahead and sing.

Ain't nobody going to touch Whitney Houston and ain't nobody going to touch Marvin Gaye's Star Spangled Banner. Those two are cemented forever. Sonny Khan said, Hey, Uncle Nocho, love all the way from Pakistan. Sonny, what's up, bro? What they doing, boy?

Yeah. Uncle Nocho, I love y'all. I'm 21, dealing with substance abuse issues today. It's my first day going sober. Any advice? Also, any advice to how to pray and get closer to God? I just turned 21. Should I

buy some Shea by LaPorte? Absolutely not. You should not buy no Shea by LaPorte. But what you should do is take one day at a time. And that's the way you have to approach it. It's one day. One day. Yeah. It's in that day. One day. One foot in front of the other.

And every day is a battle. Listen, you got to take that serious, man. You got to take that serious. If you know you have an issue, if you know you have a problem, the fact that you even want to get help, you know, that says a lot. I just lost my mama, obviously obviously in 2021 to alcohol poisoning. She drank herself to death. So obviously you're young

and if you have the discipline to stop, it's a good thing if you stop now. If you stop now. The biggest thing, Ocho, is that he admits, he acknowledges,

the first part of anything is acknowledging that you have a problem. Yeah, yeah. And especially at that young age, at such a young age, he acknowledges, the first part of anything is acknowledging that you have a problem. And especially at that young age, at such a young age, normally at 21, you want to have fun. You ain't thinking about stopping and getting the help that you might need. But if you

can stop at night very early, it makes the back end or the second half of your life much easier, much, much easier, as opposed to trying to stop when you're in your 40s or your 50s or your 60s yes so we are we're here at nightcap jay is giving you support we're praying for you each day hopefully you go stronger in your conviction and god blesses you with the strength and the determination that you need to uh kick this deadly uh this deadly habit so we're praying for you.

You're in our thoughts and prayers. So wish you all the best moving forward. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. I love y'all.

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