Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Kirk Cousins' future, New NFL Kickoff rules

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

Unc and Ocho react to Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank calling Kirk Cousins their franchise quarterback despite taking Michael Penix Jr. high in the NFL Draft, DJ Moore inking a 4-year, $110 million... extension with the Chicago Bears, the NFL's new kickoff rules, and much more!03:10 - Blank: Kirk Cousins is our Franchise QB14:00 - DJ Moore 110 Million Extension15:32 - NFL New Kick off Rules21:17 - Women going viral for Post date expenses47:08 - Rough Draft52:04 - Q and Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:36 Okay. The Falcons had a bold off-season move in the NFL, signing Kirk Cousins to a four-year, $180 million deal. Also drafted Michael Penix Jr. with the number eight pick in that 2024 NFL draft. Team owner Arthur Blank made the case for why fathers whom he labeled independent thinkers were wise to allocate a substantial resource to a pair of quarterbacks. Just listening to our coaching staff and our personnel department, they made a decision.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Michael was going to be available at number eight. They saw an extraordinary talent. Kirk Cousins is our franchise starting quarterback, is our franchise quarterback, is our starting quarterback. What'd you think about that? You like that, Ocho? Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Listen, Kirk Cousins is great. He's great in the postseason. I think if I'm not mistaken, Kirk Cousins has, I'm sorry, in the regular season think if I'm not mistaken, Kirk Cousins has one playoff victory. And I'm not sure in how many years, but he is stellar. He is stellar in the postseason. Drake London, Kyle Pitts, B. John Robinson are going to pay tremendous dividends with having him at the helm. He's great. But again, we understand how difficult it is for a team. There are 32 teams. There are 32 teams, and there are many of these teams
Starting point is 00:03:50 that are trying to find a quarterback that they can build around, that can be consistent year in and year out. You don't have to worry about the position. You got Lamar Jackson. You got the Joe Burrow, the Josh Allens, the Jalen Hurts, obviously Dak with the Cowboys. Many teams don't have that security blanket. The Falcons do.
Starting point is 00:04:08 They found one in Kirk Cousins when they traded for him or when they were able to get him. Then they also found one in a draft that you couldn't pass up. Kirk coming off an Achilles injury. Bing.
Starting point is 00:04:17 They have security on both sides. We know what he can do. He has an extensive resume in the regular season, but there's a talent that's going to be available to eight. And Michael Penning Jr., you don't pass that up. You don't pass that up. You know Michael Penning Jr. is your quarterback of the future.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And hell, even this year, I think if Kirk Cousins doesn't play to the standards in which they like and see fit, Michael Penning Jr. They're going to get off him after one year, Ocho? Huh? They're going to get off him after one year? Boy,? Huh? They're going to get off him after one year? Boy, you know how it is. Boy, you're not playing well?
Starting point is 00:04:49 You're not playing well? And the same thing goes for my boy. The same thing goes for my guy. We think it's going to be a quarterback battle over in Pittsburgh. Oh, yeah. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But here's the thing, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I love what Justin Fields has done. Russell Wilson is going to be the quarterback of that franchise over there in Pittsburgh. And if things aren't going well, Justin Fields will see the field. That's it. And I think the same thing will happen with Kirk Cousins as well. If you're stinking up the place and putting the team in jeopardy as far as winning is concerned, they're going to turn that over to Michael Piddings Jr. There's only so much losing that they're going to take.
Starting point is 00:05:26 The difference is, Pittsburgh ain't invest no money in Russ. They invested, what, $3, $4, $5 million? Yeah, but from a business standpoint, I understand what you're saying. Because the Broncos is putting their Broncos had already guaranteed that money,
Starting point is 00:05:41 so we already get like $35, $38 million from the Broncos. So he's only getting like, Pittsburgh get like 35, 38 million from the Broncos. So he only getting like Pittsburgh only play like $3 million. Yeah. But it's, it's, it's, it's Russ's job. I see the media, you know, scrumming up. Oh, Justin Fields has been having camp. He's he's ahead.
Starting point is 00:06:01 You know, he's, he's getting the good reps in, but listen, I'm, I'm, I'm going. Mike Tomlin. You understand Arthur Smith, Russell Wilson. He has a resume. His season wasn't even that bad last year in Denver. I think people are failing to realize that his season wasn't that bad last year in Denver. You have a quarterback that has an extensive resume that has experience on what it takes to win. You have a Super Bowl champion quarterback.
Starting point is 00:06:23 You have a Super Bowl champion head coach. You understand that it's Arthur Smith's job's job to understand russell wilson's strengths isn't in his weaknesses and play to that and i think you'll be fine you got nia jay harris to take some of the pressure off of russ you got george pickens who is him yeah whatever they did with puka nakua and moving him around and and allowing him to get the ball they need to do the same thing with George Pickers over there in Pittsburgh. It's not that hard. It ain't that hard. But the one thing,
Starting point is 00:06:51 what do you notice about Cooper Cove? What do you notice about Puka Nakua? It's all I effort every single play. Yeah, always. Oh, I know where you're going. I see where you're going. That's it. I see where you're going. Talent is there. He might be more going. I see where you're going. That's it. I see where you're going. That's the only... Talent is there. He might be more talented.
Starting point is 00:07:07 He might be more physically gifted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't teach you effort, Ocho. You got to have that in you. And I can't have to remind... Hey, son, I need you to try hard. Son, I need you... I can't do that, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Yeah. On the run plays, on the run plays. Yeah, that do that, Ocho. Yeah. On the run plays. On the run plays. Yeah. That's it, Ocho. Because if I'm a running back, you ain't blocking for me. Why I need to pick this blitz up so you can get a pass? On play action? Yeah. You're right. You're right. You're going to ask me to stick my... That linebacker coming right
Starting point is 00:07:37 up there. And you know he coming with... And linebackers ain't trying to dodge nothing. They try to run your butt. They running right through you. Yeah. But you know, I think he learned his lesson. He learned his lesson last year nothing. They try to run your butt. They're running right through you. I think he learned his lesson. He learned his lesson last year. He's going to be all right. But I agree. Boy, that's a lot of money to get off of Ocho
Starting point is 00:07:55 if Cousins doesn't pan out. But this is the funny thing. It's Kirk Cousins. He always pans out in the regular season. Man, Drake London is going to feast. Kyle Pitts is the funny thing. It's Kirk Cousins. He always pans out in the regular season. Yeah. Man, Drake London is going to feast. Kyle Pitts is going to feast.
Starting point is 00:08:09 He is a yardage monster in the regular season. He just hasn't been able to get his teams over the hump in the postseason. That's it. No. No, I'm not saying he ain't got no dog in him. I'm saying that, no, he needs to put in that effort. Not just when he's getting the ball. Right. Because, I'm like, Ocho, if I know it's that, no, he needs to put in that effort. Not just when he's getting the ball. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Because, Ocho, if I know it's a, look, if I know, oh, it's a run, I can tell the way you're coming off the ball. Right. You do know they watch. Defenders, they watch. I can look and see how much pressure. I can see, I can look and see if a guy, if a D-lineman got light, oh, y'all about to run a game, huh?
Starting point is 00:08:45 Because why else would your hand not have that kind of pressure in the dirt? Because if you got pressure in the dirt, that means you're going forward. See, when you're light, Ocho, you got to get up out of there because they're about to do a game. They're about to do a T-E or E-T. Oh, you don't think I see the A? You're going to run a game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Yes, I'm looking at all the keys. I'm trying to get as big an advantage as i can to try to make my job easier your line how you lining up man stop all that you ain't coming look what a safety if you doing all that dancing if you if he way back there and you come if i just turn around who gonna cover me nobody so stop all that dancing get back where you're supposed to be. You know you finna drop in the hoop. Shut up. Right, right, right. You ain't fooling nobody.
Starting point is 00:09:29 All that dancing. Yeah. Oh, y'all know damn well they're not coming. Now, I see that safety inching down. Oh, you coming. Because he finna pick me up. Mm-hmm. You know what's funny?
Starting point is 00:09:43 Now that you mention that and trying to pick up the keys before the snap of the ball. Uh-huh. You know what's funny? Now that you mention that, and trying to pick up the keys before the snap of the ball, we used to play the Steelers. You know, the Steelers had all these exotic coverages, all these exotic blitzes on the goddamn Dick LeBeau. And the funniest thing
Starting point is 00:09:58 that they used to do is they used to bring everybody to the line of scrimmage. Yeah. And Troy Polamalu used to be sitting in the A-gap. And Carson sometimes would be thinking the blitz is coming. And at the snap of the ball, everybody run to where they got to be at.
Starting point is 00:10:13 And it would be the craziest thing to see. And Palamalu got his back to the ball. Man, back to the ball and still getting where he has to be. He does. Before Carson finishes and drops. And it was amazing that, for one, you got to have the personnel to pull that shit off.
Starting point is 00:10:29 For sure. And the only two teams that I've ever seen that had the personnel do some of the exotic stuff that these defenses did, and that was the Baltimore Ravens during the 2000s and the Pittsburgh Steelers
Starting point is 00:10:39 during the 2000s. They did things that you're not supposed to be able to do. It's one thing to bluff. It's one thing to have movement, but to have the safeties at the line of scrimmage and shooting up out of there at the snap of the ball and still be on point and in position to make a play
Starting point is 00:10:55 was unbelievable to see. Oh, Joe, the thing, if you go back and study the Ravens, the Ravens weren't that complex. They played cover too, but you couldn't run up. The reason why the Ravens were so difficult is because you couldn't run them out of it. They never had to drop the safety down to come up out of that coverage.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Where you running? The Ravens played 16 games. They didn't give up a thousand total rush yards the entire season. Let that sink in, ladies and gentlemen. In 16 games, they didn't give up 1,000
Starting point is 00:11:30 total rush yards on the entire season. In 16 games, they gave up 165 points. It's crazy. In one game, if I'm not mistaken, they gave up 35 in one game if I'm not mistaken they gave up 35 in one game
Starting point is 00:11:47 we'll never see a defense like that again no Cleveland we played Cleveland in 2000 they got 86 yards on their first drive and I think they had 30 yards the rest of the game as soon as things settled in yards on their first drive. And I think they had 30 yards the rest of the game.
Starting point is 00:12:11 As soon as things settled in, it was a wrap, huh? They got the opening. They got the opening kick, Ocho. And they went right down and scored. Right. And for the rest of the game, I think they might have had 30 yards. You want to know something? Go back and look at the play-by-play and look at the Giants in the Super Bowl and look at what they did.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Punt, punt, turnover, punt, turnover, turnover, punt, turnover, punt, punt, kick, return, punt, punt, pick. Go look at the Ocho. I mean, I'm like, it's ridiculous. Yeah. I mean, it was like, bro, I'm like, bro, that ain't going to work. I said, y'all going to get, hey, Ken Collins is going to get y'all blowed up. Because Jamie and Ray was teeing off.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Because you couldn't hold it. We didn't know you couldn't hold it. You wasn't going to go deep. Because Goose, because Rob Burnett, Mike McQuarrie, Peter Boulware, wasn't going to let you go deep. They're going to hit you in your back. So we know you got to run them little crossing routes and Jamie
Starting point is 00:13:08 and Ray were just sitting there just picking people off. Well, him is the pick one, went back for a touchdown because he didn't know the ball got to come out quick. You ain't finna throw nothing over our head. You got no time. Everything was
Starting point is 00:13:24 three-shift. Dwayne Stark and Chris McAllister. Chris McAllister? throw nothing over our head. You got no time. Everything was three-shift. Who y'all had? Dwayne Stark and Chris McAllister? Chris McAllister? Yeah, Chris was nice. And Robert Bailey was a slot. No, Robert was when they went four. But Corey Harris was a nickel slot. And then Robert Bailey. You know Robert
Starting point is 00:13:39 Bailey would... Yeah, yeah. I know Rob. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Goddamn Rob. That's classic, man. check this out DJ Moore enjoyed a career first season with the Bears now Moore is the richest Bears player in their franchise history after signing a monster four-year contract worth 110 million dollars the extension will keep him tied to the number one rookie overall pick Caleb Williams for the foreseeable future. More revealed during Bears press conference today,
Starting point is 00:14:08 he really did dread getting traded to Chicago at first. It's cold, bro. It's cold. Think about Ocho. It's cold in Chicago. It's cold in Green Bay. At least now you're inside in Minnesota,
Starting point is 00:14:23 people don't realize Minnesota should be outside too. Back in the day, yeah. Yes. So can you imagine? Man, please let me play Green Bay in September. Please let me play Minnesota in September. You did not want to be going to no Minnesota in Green Bay in no December and January.
Starting point is 00:14:39 No, sir. Or Chicago. Yeah, I like DJ more. He's been consistent. I like DJ Moore. He's been consistent. He's been quietly consistent. He doesn't make much noise. He doesn't talk a lot. He's not flashy.
Starting point is 00:14:50 He just goes out there and he gets the job done. He had a good year with Justin Fields last year. Yeah. He had a good year with Justin Fields last year. So this contract is warranted. The market is what it is. It's a friendly, I call it a team-friendly contract. He wasn't trying to break the bank and be the highest paid receiver.
Starting point is 00:15:04 But it is a team-friendly contract. He wasn't trying to break the bank and be the highest-paid receiver, but it's a team-friendly contract and it's good. I think with Caleb Williams and what I've seen from him from college, the small sample size of what I've seen from him so far in training camp, they're going to be fine. They're going to be fine. I mean, he deserves it. He deserves it. Oh, Joe, check this out.
Starting point is 00:15:21 The NFL new kickoff rules. Onside kicks are illegal until the fourth quarter. Yeah. The team must be losing to onside kick. Team must announce its intention to onside kick to the official ahead of time. The NFL is also moving closer to replacing chain game with new technology to measure the line to gain. What are you going to use? Hawkeye, right? Like in tennis.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Yeah. The league will set to test Sony's Hawkeye equipment technology during the preseason game. I kept trying to tell people they're doing everything they possibly can to get the kickoff out of the game. Because they're looking at
Starting point is 00:16:03 30-40% of the injuries and concussions happen on kickoff, running to each other, running to each other at a high rate of speed. Yeah. I mean, I like it. I like it. If anything, NFL obviously being worried about safety,
Starting point is 00:16:19 trying to implement an 18-game season. I think this is in the right steps of doing just that and eliminating the kickoff. But again, the dimensions of the field are still the same. Concussions still happen in game and in play. So,
Starting point is 00:16:34 I mean, you can do all you can to try to be safe, but there are still other measures that can, that can happen as far as changing the dimensions of the field and make it a little wider, you know, uh, to try to eliminate some of those,
Starting point is 00:16:49 um, crushing hits instead of throwing a flag for air, every little thing like we do now. So, um, I mean, I see the direction in which the NFL is going and trying to protect the players and also protect themselves for,
Starting point is 00:17:02 for any issues 10 years down the line. But, uh, I mean, I like it. Uh, I'm not sure about the kickoff. and also protect themselves for any issues 10 years down the line. But, I mean, I like it. I'm not sure about the kickoff. I think it takes away from the excitement and seeing, all right, does this player have a chance to take this one back? Well, talking to Kamish, he seems to think there'll be more returns. You think so?
Starting point is 00:17:32 Yeah, he said because once you hit a crease, you're gone. long as those players stay once you stay in your lane and you lock in and boom you yeah you share you be able to share left or right it's really nowhere to go because there's not as much room it's not as much room to set things up as a returner all you gotta do why you think a lot of them are using are using positional players to kick off? Because they're going to have to be making a lot more tackles and Justin Reed is going to be perfect.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Right. Because he's a tackler. Okay, I see what you mean. I see what you mean. I ain't trusting, I ain't trusting my kicker too many times to make a game say,
Starting point is 00:18:01 hey, he might make one, maybe two. I ain't much past that or joe i ain't trusted him to be making no game saving tackles no touchdown saving tackle that's it uh but yeah i get it i understand oh joe but here's here's the problem the nfl is running into how do you make an inherently dangerous game say it's like bull it's like bull, Ocho. At the end of the day, you're still asking a 150-pound, 160-pound man to get on a 1,500-pound bull.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah. You can get him a harness. You can shave his horns down. You can get him a helmet. They put a helmet. It's still dangerous no matter what. You have the chance. There's still that 150, 160-pound man on
Starting point is 00:18:44 1,500 pounds of muscle. Yeah. Yeah. There's always a chance, no matter what you do. There's only so much you can do as far as making the game safe. But, hey, kudos for them, for the NFL trying to make it safe.
Starting point is 00:19:01 It seems to me, Ocho, they're headed to an 18-game schedule, and it's going to be sooner or later. Remember what I told you, Ocho, they're headed to an 18-game schedule and it's going to be sooner or later. Remember what I told you, Ocho. The only thing you can sell them is extra games. What else are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yeah. What else can I sell you, Ocho? Yeah. It's the only one way to make money. It's the only one way to make more money. And it seems like the players
Starting point is 00:19:20 are in agreement with it. Yeah. They get a piece of the pie as long as they're getting a piece of the pie as long as they're getting a piece of the pie. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company,
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Starting point is 00:21:58 okay so i just got into my car after going on a date. Right. And let me just tell you something. I don't know what the deal is with like men now, but I had told him prior that I will be having pre and post date expenses. And is that OK? And are you going to cover them? And I don't know if he wasn't listening or like what the deal was or whatever. Right. But he when I handed him the white envelope, he looked shocked.
Starting point is 00:22:21 And then he opened it and it's receipts. Hello. Pre post date expenses. Hello. Like what kind of females do you be dating? You know what I'm saying? So anyway, so I handed it to him and he literally looked shocked at me and said, I can't cover this. It was $478 for pre and post date expenses. You asked me on a date and mind you, we really didn't even have that good a conversation because he was on his phone the whole time. And I have a very strict no phone policy on dates. Hello, you're
Starting point is 00:22:47 here to pay attention to me. Look at all the effort that I had to pay. Listen. This gotta be. I mean, listen. There are women that can get away with this. There are women. She's not one of them. That's no disrespect and that's no slight to her. There are women that can get away with this. There are women. She's not one of them.
Starting point is 00:23:05 That's no disrespect and that's no slight to her. There are women that can get away with this. There are men out here that cater to those that can get away with this. As a matter of fact, they don't have to say anything about pre or post date expenses because they're going to get it anyway.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Ocho. Okay. I don't even know where to begin. But let's try to unpack this, Ocho. Yeah. We're going on a date. I'm going to take care of everything. If you want to take an Uber,
Starting point is 00:23:38 I'll get you an Uber black car. I'm going to pay for the date. I'm going to get you a black car to take you home. I got the date covered. Yes, sir. You're going to pay for the date I'm going to get you a bike car to take you home I got the date covered you going to get your hair done you going to get makeup done I ain't paying for that ish
Starting point is 00:23:52 a post date hold on post what do you mean post receipt I don't know what post date expenses are what's post date expenses I've never heard of that. First off, and you don't came to the envelope,
Starting point is 00:24:07 that means the last guy didn't pay for it. And you try to pass that on down to me. I ain't paying for that. Oh, no. Oh, no. And listen, it depends on who you are. Chat, chat.
Starting point is 00:24:19 It depends on where you are in life. Are you having fun? Are you trying to look for something serious? Now, if you're not looking for nothing serious and you understand it's okay to deal with someone like that
Starting point is 00:24:29 because that's not an asset. That's a liability. Listen, you already know what time it is from the jump. I'm going to have my fun. Your post-date experience, your post-date,
Starting point is 00:24:39 your pre-date expense, whatever it may be, you're going to pay that because you want to reach your end goal if you have the people to do so. I guess you're talking about plan B. As opposed to plan B.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I just said Ocho. Could that be Ocho? What else could it be? Ocho, how do you expect a man to cover something that he's not there for? So you go out after the date with your girls, or you go out with somebody else,
Starting point is 00:25:08 and you want me, oh, you going to see somebody else. Yeah. I'm going to get you an Uber to go to wherever you going. If you want to go home, well, Shelly, let me take that back. Shelly's going to get you an Uber to get you going wherever you going,
Starting point is 00:25:22 because I ain't got no Uber. As a matter of fact, order your own Uber. I'll wherever you're going. Because I ain't got no Uber. As a matter of fact, order your own Uber. I'll give you $100. I'll give you $200. It should cover the distance in which you came and where you come. So whatever that case may be,
Starting point is 00:25:36 okay, you know what? To keep it everything good, I'm going to give you $300 to travel to and from. That should cover it. Hopefully you ain't coming from San Francisco to down to LA. Damn. Hey, but listen, it all depends on where you are in life.
Starting point is 00:25:54 It all depends on where you are in life. What you looking to do? You looking to have fun or you looking for somebody serious? That was a liability. So you already know what time it is from jump. If you're looking for something serious, you find somebody that you deal with. I'm not saying go 50-50. I'm not saying go 50-50 sometime.
Starting point is 00:26:09 90-10. Sometimes 70-30. You find somebody where you meet that, you can find that happy medium and meet that middle ground, then that's perfect. That's somebody you can deal with. Now, if you're just having fun, you already know what you're doing. There ain't no fun. You never know.
Starting point is 00:26:27 As a matter of fact, she might have been playing B or C or D see what I'm talking about and now she gonna keep she gonna keep playing the game she gonna keep playing the game until you find one that's willing to do it I wanna see the dude that's paying for that cause he you talk about A you talk about low self esteem this mofo
Starting point is 00:26:42 got no self esteem if he paying her? Yeah, yeah. You got to think about it. Oh, hell no. Y'all got me all the way messed up. Hold on. Hold on there.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Now, women with entitlement like that that are talking like that, she's saying and asking for those things because there's been someone in the past that is willing to do it. There will always be a man that's willing to do it. Is she going to find one that's willing to do it consistently?
Starting point is 00:27:07 Absolutely not. But you do have some that will pay it until they reset and go. And after they reached their end goal and had their fun, then they're on, they're gone. That's it. And then the cycle starts back over finding someone that's willing to pay it because someone already,
Starting point is 00:27:22 someone else already set the precedent. Oh, there's always going to be a man willing to do it it's just about yeah yeah but i'm just looking i ain't look i ain't finna tell nobody i'm finna win no modeling contest i wasn't you know i'm saying i ain't been to be on no covenant magazine by by no chance i ain't never some old man you know what i was think, probably like in college, late in my college, early in my NFL career, Tyson Beckford. All the way, ooh, I want Tyson Beckford.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Oh, ooh, oh, he could, yeah, yeah. I ain't never claimed to be no Tyson Beckford. Right, right. But I don't feel that I, I've never been had so low self-esteem or no self-esteem that I was like, look, even even swap ain't no swindle
Starting point is 00:28:08 you hear what i'm saying oh joe yes now if you use me for the ride i use you for the high we both get what we want come on now if you don't say i don't try just keep it real which all the way 1000 so whoa whoa whoa whoa stay right there, man. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Because I got to hit real with that one. Man, you can't hit real. Huh? You know what I'm saying? So I'm just saying, if I, look, if we go and you thinking what I'm thinking, I'm just going to have a good time.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I'm going to get what I can get. Well, hell, I'm thinking, hey, we're on the same wavelength. Because I'm thinking, hey, that'll be a good time. I'm going to try to get what I can get. Yeah, yeah. Milk the cow. That's what my grandma used to call it but the cow i'm looking at you and you thinking like i'm like huh you think that
Starting point is 00:28:53 yeah man it's it's different that's that's that's i'm i'm um it's all about in today's society. What can they get? What can I get? How is this situation? My face with them ridiculous ideas and demands. That's why I'm so I'm so happy. I'm like just being in this position, man. Sometimes real is 90 and sometimes I'm the 10.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Sometimes I'm the 30. I'm sometimes I'm the 70. Sometimes I'm the 30. Sometimes I'm the 70. Sometimes she's a 30. Either way, at some point, it's always equal, not the 100, 100, 100 percent. Every time we doing something, whatever it may be. So some months I might not have none coming in. Guess who got to pick up the slack? Then there's other months. Oh, man, I'm rolling.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I'm feeling like goddamn Pablo Escobar. OK, I got everything man the day oh they want you to pay for the lashes they want you to pay for the feet they want you to pay for the hair or I need an outfit or I need some heels or I need a bag and then you gotta think about
Starting point is 00:29:58 you gotta think about today's era you look at Instagrams on Instagrams oh my goodness you'll think everybody living large and everybody rich. What did I tell you my grandfather say? I am not fattening a frog for another snake to eat. I ain't buying no BBL.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Come on, man. I'm not doing that. Yes, sir. If that's what you want, if you feel you need to enhance your body doing that, by all means. Do so. If you want to get veneers, if you want to get implants, you want to get Botox, whatever. I don't judge. I'm not judging you.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I'm just not paying for it. Right. Right. I like. But, you know, if you do pay for it. You. Right. I like. But you know, if you do pay for it. So, you got that BBL. I done paid. How much did BBL cost? 30, 40,000? How much BBL cost? It cost that much?
Starting point is 00:30:54 How much it cost, Ash? Ask for it and Google it right quick. Here I am. I done paid. Hey. Ocho. I done paid 35, 40,000 for it. How much it cost? 9,000 Oh that ain't bad That's shoe money for you
Starting point is 00:31:11 9 to 18,000 Yeah that's shoe money So let's say I done put this in So I done spent 13,000 Getting you a BBL Right And then another dude
Starting point is 00:31:20 Hitting that thing Like a silverback Slapping at that plate glass Bang Bang I done lose a dog And get And that's your That's your investment other dude hitting that thing like a silverback slapping at that plate glass. Bam! Hey, that's your investment. But that's what you can't do. You're over here laughing.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Oh, no. Let's say if you pay for a woman's BBL, right, her breast implants and whatever it may be, right, and things don't work out, you can ask for that back. She ain't gonna give it back to you, Ocho. She ain't give it back to you.
Starting point is 00:31:48 For you, listen, if y'all don't work out, tell her to give you your shit back. Because the same way they did that procedure, she can go right back to the doctor and they can take that shit out and you can put it in the freezer and save it for the next one. Nah. Ocho. You better than me.
Starting point is 00:32:02 You better than me. Give me them titties and give me that ass. Give it back. Hand that shit over. Ocho, nah. Once I give you something, it's yours. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I give you a purse. I give you X. I give you Y. It's yours. I ain't finna haggle about that. Oh, I'm haggling. I'm ha a purse. I give you X. I give you Y. It's yours. I ain't finna haggle about that. Oh, I'm haggling. I'm haggling. I'm haggling because if you're leaving me, you don't need anything that reminds you
Starting point is 00:32:34 of what I've done while we were together. Yeah. I want heels. I want purses. No, I want everything. I want jewelry. Everything. Now, I've had women get upset with me and give it back.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I don't want it. My sister said, you take that Gucci. You take that Louis Vuitton. You take that Chanel. Yeah. Yeah, shit. Give me that. I'm not finna haggle with you.
Starting point is 00:33:00 You want to give it back? I'm like, no, baby. I want you to have it. Please. Nah, you being too nice, man. Nah, you being too nice, man. Nah, you being too nice. Cause now, she got the stuff you bought, your hard-earned money, and she wearing it on the next
Starting point is 00:33:12 date with Phillip. Posting on Instagram, Instagram with Phillip and your shit. That's alright. I got Queeda. Nah, let Phillip pick up slack. Me and Queeda at the movies. She got Phillip, I got Queeta, we all win. But now you got to buy Queeta the same thing.
Starting point is 00:33:28 So you dump, now you in your pocket too much. Ocho, you have to understand, in the position that I'm in now, there can be no haggling. There can be no nothing. I gain nothing. Right. I lose. I'm not in no situation if I was
Starting point is 00:33:49 if I was normal Joe Smoe right yes but in the situation I'm in the first thing they're gonna do they're gonna try to go public they're gonna try to embarrass me
Starting point is 00:34:00 okay okay I see where you're at oh oh I'm embarrassed about what oh he asked for his stuff back? You're goddamn right. Give me my shit back. But see, then they add a little stuff to it that make you look...
Starting point is 00:34:12 Unnecessary? Just leave it alone. Just leave it alone. Okay, my bad. My bad. I see where you're going. You got to, man. You got to. Hey, I mean, hypothetically speaking, hypothetically speaking, hey, bro, you better than me, boy. BBL? 13,000?
Starting point is 00:34:27 No, I ain't paying for no BBL. I'm just saying, I ain't paying for none either. I'm just saying, if it just so happened, if it occurred, honey, listen, ain't nobody gonna be riding that wave but me.
Starting point is 00:34:37 If you come to me with a BBL, you best believe I'm all in. Go shout your boy in. Right, right, right, right. You right, but listen, you better than me. Hey, honey, listen, before you leave, I know you got other people that are interested. I know you got another line you have a roster
Starting point is 00:34:52 that is waiting for you to be free. But before you leave, I need you to run me that ass and rub them tits back. And I'm going to put them in the freezer until I meet somebody else. That is in need. Yeah, I'm going to use that again.
Starting point is 00:35:03 You know, Ocho, the only thing, like, for me, is that anybody that I've ever been with, I don't speak negative about them. I just keep it moving. Me neither. Me neither.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I don't do that. I don't do that. I don't do that. Because everybody from the past has made me the man I am today. Yes. Yes. And even,
Starting point is 00:35:22 but see, here's the thing. For me, and this is why I've always been this way. I believe if you date in private, you can break up in private. Right. Right. If you date publicly, you have to break up publicly. See, there are situations that I've been involved with and everybody say, well, this is why it happened. Unbeknownst to them, we had already broken up a year. And we'd already broken up a year. Damn.
Starting point is 00:35:46 We'd already broken up a year. Ain't nobody know nothing. And then when she popped out with another dude, oh man, she was cheating. No, she wasn't. We were already broken up. Right, right, right. But see, y'all didn't know that because I kept that private.
Starting point is 00:35:57 See, that's how you have to handle it. And see now, because the thing is, Ocho, if they can't find something on you, they'll just make up stuff. Make up stuff, yeah. Go listen to the song Billie Jean with Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Right. Michael Jackson said, be careful, he said, because the lies will become the truth. Mm-hmm. You see, what happens, Ocho, people will tell a lie enough, they'll start to believe it.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Believe it, yeah. And because they repeated that lie so much, people will start to tell that lie for them. I like it. I like it. I like it. I was like, bro, hey, I ain't got nothing.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I do what I do. I keep it moving. Yeah. I thought it was gonna I thought it was gonna last longer than what it did it didn't it happens but that don't make me no bad guy you know you ain't this you ain't that like hey
Starting point is 00:36:58 come on now really I mean they're I don't know what it is Ocho but it always make it seem like I'm the guy ain't nobody ever broke up with them I'm they was really i mean they're i don't know what it is oh joe but it always makes it seem like i'm i'm the guy ain't nobody ever broke up with them i'm they was a virgin when they met me i can't i can't believe you did me like right right but damn you said the same thing about the other dude that you broke up with for like you with him for a year and a half two years yeah he broke up with you and you ain't have no problems right well depending it depends on who it is now
Starting point is 00:37:25 you know you you're you're you're a public figure you're a stellar figure you're you're a man of god so it's different when you leave because when you leave i mean it it it it's it's it's hurtful you know and understanding what you bring to the table now you are the legs and the table you're the nappies in the fork so you got to understand when you leave a woman she's understanding the chance of finding someone like you again is slim to none because that at that point it's going to be hop around hop around right around hop around hop around it's never it's never gonna stick it's never gonna stick now so you got to understand if they lose somebody like you that's different it and the thing was oh joe i mean the problem like i had what i've had with
Starting point is 00:38:05 a a lady that i dated a couple of yes sir it bothered them that i did for my family yes sir i think shouldn't i say why does it bother you family come first you get everything that you want come on that i say you haven't asked for anything that you haven't been able to get. Yes, sir. So why does it bother you? Like, with your kids grown, they steal my kids. I'll give them 50. If I'm 75, 76, they steal my kids.
Starting point is 00:38:36 That's my mom. That's my sister. I'm going to take care of them. Because before, before any of this, I had Sterling. I had Sherry Shaw. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:53 They were the one that was coming to my game. My mom was giving us what she could on the money that she made. So for me, what type of person would I be if I have, Because I look at it, I know for certain, if the roles were reversed, if my sister was in the position that I'm in, my sister would do everything for me and my brother that we've done for her. If my brother was in the position that I'm in, and I know what I had in college,
Starting point is 00:39:18 if you could go back and ask anybody at Savannah State from 87 to 89 when Shannon Sharp was in college and ask them what Shannon Sharp drove and ask him what. I had Lee, Levi's, Iza, Polo, the Bo Jackson cross trainers. I had all that and kept a pocket full of money.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I could go to the Savannah Mall anytime I wanted to. So, oh, I'm going to take care of it. I'm going to take care of it because it don't mean nothing to me because everything that I look at, Ocho, oh, I'm going to take care of them. I'm going to take care of them because they don't mean nothing to me because everything that I look at, Ocho, everything that I really do is for them.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Now, you know, I bought a couple of pieces, you know, you see you, boy. You see you, boy. I know you saw that. I see you. I see you. I bought a couple of pieces of jewelry, you know, jewelry. That's a red flag off jump, especially if you're dealing with somebody somebody if let's say you wanted to spend a lifetime with them if that was your life partner that's somebody you had no problem saying you
Starting point is 00:40:13 know what if i was to wake up to anybody else the rest of my life it'd be you and the fact that that individual has a problem with you taking care of your immediate family that was been there way before she was yes you came. That's a red flag and that's a no-go. That's a non-negotiable. Oh, yeah, for sure. That's a non-negotiable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Especially, look, when it comes to taking care of your kids, even if they are grown, come on now. Even my homeboys. I got, you know, hey, everybody heard me mention Bucket and Burn.
Starting point is 00:40:43 If I give one something, the other one ain't even got to ask I'm going to send him something I keep them evil I know for certain if the roles were reversed there are certain people you know Ocho if the roles were reversed if Bucky was in my position
Starting point is 00:40:58 and I was in his he'd be the same way for me ain't no question I don't even question it. They know if he knows if something were to happen to him, he already know his family taking care of. Yeah. My homeboy bucket.
Starting point is 00:41:16 He knows something happened to him. His wife taking care of. He didn't got to ask. Yeah. Yeah. My homeboy used to play cards together. His name was Elijah Alexander.lexander he was good he passed away his wife kim she know if she need anything she got my number yeah ain't no i'm
Starting point is 00:41:34 trying to talk to her back though nothing like that i got too much respect for him and i've been knowing them before they got married so she know if she need anything somebody to talk to something monetarily i got it yeah because i know eli would have done the same for me bucket and burns i got three brothers sterling sharp darryl mccormick and keith burns yeah i got three brothers one sister yeah yeah that's how i ride, Ocho. If I ride with you, there ain't nothing you can't come to me and ask me for. If they came to me and said, homeboy,
Starting point is 00:42:12 Charles, boy, I'm down. Man, I need 500, homeboy. You know I ain't gonna never be able to pay you back. Done. Yeah. I got a small group, a small group a very small group just like that just like you same but obviously you know i got two brothers sam and chauncey i got a sister
Starting point is 00:42:32 shanita i got my homeboys here in miami that kept me on a straight and narrow anything they ever small group beau rep rashad yeah that's three down here Bobo and Hound That's the five down here in Miami Then I got my Cincinnati folk Right Well, if they ever need anything Hunk, you hear me? When I say anything
Starting point is 00:42:53 Yes They know they good Main, Lose, Ryan, Locke Anything, that's it Rico, that's five They need anything Hunk, they good Yes
Starting point is 00:43:04 Never want for nothing. Never ask for nothing. I just know if they were in my position and I ever needed, they got. Ocho, that's how I look at every situation. And I really try to evaluate that. And I played college ball with Bucket. So I've known Bucket since 88. We've been probably best friends probably since 91, over 30 years.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Burns, I met him in 94. He was really the first rookie that I really hung with. And so he and I've been cool basically since day one. I always try to look at it like if the roles were reversed. Versed, yeah. Would they? Would you extend that same service? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Yeah. I got, hey, listen, it's so funny. Madol, I know Rashad. We call him Doink. Anybody in the chat know Doink, Winter Gables? Worked with the mayor down here in Miami. I didn't know Rashad since 1988. We played on Miami Lakes Optimist together since 88.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Lived right down the street from me. When I went to Pro Bowls, Shadi was at the Pro Bowls. When we had big games, Shadi was out there in Cincinnati. Made some good times, and it's hard to find the value of true friends.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I mean, there's a difference now. True fans, not those that are there just because of what you can do. Those that really value through the ups, through the downs, and nothing ever changes. You know when you really got a true friend is when you say no. The time when you say no, and they
Starting point is 00:44:36 don't buy the eye laughs. They don't get upset. They still call and check on you. And that's the hard part. You never know who your true friend is until you tell somebody no for the first time. That lets you know what it really is. Oh, Joe, you know, like, my brother, he ordered Chez Balaportier. He ordered Nightcap merch.
Starting point is 00:44:56 He ordered Club Chez Chez merch. I don't, I don't, he don't take it. He don't, he's like, I'll buy it. He said, bro, you run a business. Yeah. I mean, my, like Rod Smith,
Starting point is 00:45:11 but anytime I go to Denver, he'll pick me up. I don't pay for nothing. Yeah. I said, man, why you say, he say,
Starting point is 00:45:18 bro, he say the information and how you show me to be a pro and the approach. He say, it helped me more than on the football field. It helped me in life. He say, your money no good when I'm here. And the guys know. Also, the guys would come to my house for the NBA All-Star game. I would leave.
Starting point is 00:45:42 I'm like, I'm gone. Nah, y'all have at it. I'm gone. Super Bowl, I go stay at Nah, y'all have at it. I'm gone. Super Bowl, I go stay at the hotel, let them have the house. Right. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation
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Starting point is 00:46:50 Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General... I'm Leon Naf more questions in just a second.
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Starting point is 00:48:14 I ain't talking about no passing, or I heard him say this. I'm talking about people that know me. Yeah. They can speak. Oh, y'all love this. Ooh, it's time for Rough Draft. Oh, yeah. Today's subject is the... Oh, animation. Oh, job. Love this. Ooh, it's time for rough draft. Oh yeah. Day subject is the,
Starting point is 00:48:27 Oh, animation. Damn. I forgot. Well, last time it didn't work. Ash. Hey,
Starting point is 00:48:34 we're going to talk to you about the graphics that you put up there the other day by Rob Benjamin. How are they going to use Ryan Bailey on his bill? It got Bailey. I saw that. How the hell y'all think that's Benjamin when they start spelling Bailey when they start spelling Benjamin B-A
Starting point is 00:48:53 the dude got Bailey on the bill I'm looking at this I said man I'm driving man I like to pull a U-turn in the room today's subject is the the best olympians of all time i get to go first why you go first because you went first the other day okay my bad all right go ahead damn you just didn't want to
Starting point is 00:49:21 go all right all right you got it go ahead. I'm going Michael Phelps. I'm going Usain Bolt. I'm going Simone Biles. I'm going Sean White. I'm going... Are we doing Summer Olympics or Winter Olympics? It's all on there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:51 He said Usain Bolt. He said Sean White. I'm going to go Eric Hyden. Allison Felix. I'm going Carl Lewis Kevin Durant woo wee I'm loving it. Damn. you know what Ocho yes sir
Starting point is 00:51:03 because of what he had to face right in Berlin in Nazi Germany I'm gonna go Jesse Owens okay Jesse Owens is a good one I'm gonna raise you one
Starting point is 00:51:14 and I'm going Flojo for my last okay honorable mention who you want to go honorable mention Michael Johnson okay even though it wasn't your turn.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Okay, I'll go... I'll go Shelly and Frazier Price. I like it. It's a good one. That's a good one. But my list is better, though. No, bro. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Have somebody write down my list. Who y'all think got, who y'all think list one? Definitely me. Who y'all think got, who y'all think list one? Definitely me. Man, look at that. I got Phelps,
Starting point is 00:52:12 28 medals, Did you not think about, listen, look at my list now, look at my list. My guy, I got one guy got more medals than all your team. I just, listen, it's, you might have one. Trust me.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Until you see it side by side and you look at the list again, then you'll understand. I had the better list. No, Cole. Phelps, Biles, Eric Hyden. People don't remember that 19. Y'all don't remember in Lake Placid.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Y'all better look it up. Lake Placid? That's the movie with the alligator. Remember? Yeah. But that's where the Winter Olympics. Well.
Starting point is 00:53:04 And that's where the miracle on ice. Remember the miracle on ice with the USA beat the Soviets? Was it Russia, right? Yeah. Alright, Ocho. Now it's time for our last segment, and it's Q
Starting point is 00:53:20 and A. Q and A, Q and A, ask me anything you want to say. Q and A, Q and A. Ask me anything you want to say. Q and A, Q and A. Ask me anything you want to say. Chris B says, first time catching y'all live. I watch every episode while I'm working. Best duo out there.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Love you all. But Ocho is my favorite. Love y'all. Chris, thank you for the support, bro. I appreciate that. Thanks for catching us live. Hey, bro, don't get fired now. Hey, just make sure you're doing your work now. We want you to support. We appreciate the support.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Hold on to the job. The job's doing hard to come by now. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said, oh, y'all global. Sounds like y'all should be ambassadors for the Olympics in 2028. What do you think, Chad? Uncle Ocho take over the Olympics. You know what? I'd like to have a role like Snoop. Give me a little role like Snoop. I mean, Snoop all over the place. Snoop, hey, man, Snoop got the best
Starting point is 00:54:15 pin. You see Snoop pin that he traded with Coco Gauff? Yeah. Man. Hey, that'd be nice. 2028 Olympics, nightcap in America. Yeah. Man. Hey, that'd be nice. 2028 Olympics, nightcap in America. Yeah. And please, Ocho, love you guys. Hope everything is well.
Starting point is 00:54:34 May God bless you and your families with good health, love, and joy. Here's the question. If y'all were in y'all prime on the same team, who get more TDs? Ocho, what's the most TDs you had in a season? I think 11. Yes, sir. I was always double cover. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:52 10, I only had 10. I had 10 twice. I fumbled one in the end zone when it gave me three seasons of 10. I fumbled in the end zone. Yeah. Dude hit me in the back, Ocho. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Hey, I did too much talking before every game. And so you already know what D Corners was doing to me. Yeah, I did too much talking. Oh, I ain't talking for the guy. I talked a little bit for the game, but I talked enough in the game. Oh, you did. Yeah. See, hey, every Wednesday, I think Coach Lewis, I think he never made me stop because it took all the pressure off the rest of the players. You know what I mean? So they could just go out there and play. But every Wednesday through immediate day, I was taking a shot, and not in a malicious way, just in a fun, entertaining manner at our opposing team. Every week for a decade straight. Every week.
Starting point is 00:55:37 You know what I basically did? You don't play video games, but I played the game of football on all Madden in real life, if that makes sense Ocho, most touchdowns you had in the season was 10, me and you tied 10? Yeah That's it? I probably only did that
Starting point is 00:55:53 I only probably did that one time I probably did that one time What? I had two of them, Ocho I mean But you had nine three times, Ocho Oh, I did? Yeah I wasn't a touchdown monster, but I was a yardage monster. Man, look.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I was a yardage monster, though. Man, that guy. Man, Gates, Tone. Oh, Antonio? Yeah, man. That's what the stadium's on. Him and Phillip Rivers get down there by that 20 and that 10? Man, I should have.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Oh, they're going to make it happen, man or that goal line oh they gonna make it happen there they're gonna make it happen every time and tone and uh gonzo i can see i couldn't yeah i'm like you man see the thing is i hate that i got stopped on the two or the one because t's gonna get that thing the next time around that thing every time yeah yeah what it is so damn i mean i'm looking at man i'm like bro how you get 117 118 touchdowns at that position at the tight end position yeah that's crazy that's crazy uh what's that may show it can't be Mateo Ramirez will Caleb Williams perform better than JF
Starting point is 00:57:10 who's JF Justin Fields I mean Caleb Williams is a starting quarterback for the Chicago Bears we don't know if Justin Fields is going to be and look at what they've given Caleb Williams they've given him DJ Moore
Starting point is 00:57:24 they've drafted Romadu at what they've given Caleb Williams. They've given him DJ Moore. They've drafted Roman Duse. And they've traded for Keenan Allen. And they got come on, bro. Justin Fields said, hold on, wait a minute. Why y'all didn't give me all that? He good. He's straight.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I think Caleb, because Caleb is going to start the season so it's going to probably be what at least four or five games before Justin Fields get on the field if he gets on the field Russell Wilson is going to play the part this is Russell Wilson's bounce back year and last year wasn't even goddamn bad
Starting point is 00:58:02 okay back year and last year wasn't even goddamn bad. Okay. Richard Asing. Hey Uncle Nocho today is my 23rd birthday. Happy birthday! Let's go! Happy birthday bro. Happy 23rd birthday. Hopefully you're out there having your good time partying with the boys. Maybe you're with your family. But happy 23rd and many many more to come you know what i was doing at 23
Starting point is 00:58:29 uh-huh he's 23 hey 20 you know what i was doing at 23 football season in the off season i was filming amateur porn you should try that good income i'm good now we talk about richard he's 23 i'm just telling you about me no I'm good. We talking about Richard. He's 23. I'm just telling you. I'm just talking about Richard. I'm just talking about Richard. No, I'm good. I'm just talking about Richard. Amateur porn. Good money. It's only $200, but still.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Ronnell Williams said, Unc, I've been following you since Denver days and follow your career to now. Ocho was my favorite receiver. Love watching the show. You guys are the best team. The best team do. Thank you. Appreciate that, Ronnell. I appreciate the support. O guys are the best team. The best team do. Thank you. Appreciate that,
Starting point is 00:59:06 Ronnell. I appreciate the support. Ochoa and I really appreciate not only you, but everybody that's been, that jumps in the chat, that watches us live, that downloads, that supports us on all the platforms. We greatly, greatly appreciate that because without you, there are no us.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Facts. Chat, y'all are the meat and potatoes of our success. Aram Abduljewan. Abduljewan. I'm sure I messed that up. Shout out to Nightcap Ocho. Will you start your own podcast like Shannon with Club
Starting point is 00:59:40 Shea Shea? If so, you can call it Ocho's Lounge. I think it'll do numbers. Just something to think about. I like it. I like it, but all my energy is devoted to Nightcap. Having anything else on the side of it, I think it will take away from Nightcap. Unk is a different beast.
Starting point is 01:00:00 He has multiple moving parts in his entity that he does. I'm not like that. It's just me, my assistant in rail. So doing anything outside of nightcap, it would be more harmful than good. James says, got my shirt. Love the quality. Amazing fit. Received so many compliments.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Much love from Houston. James, we expect to see you at the show. But thank you for your support. Nightcap shirts. Thank you for the quality. That's what we're going for. Yeah, the shirts are a little bit more expensive. But these are not blanks. These are actual shirts that are sewn together of the highest quality.
Starting point is 01:00:38 So thank you guys for your support. And thank you, James, again. And hopefully we see you in Houston. That's our show for the night, don't you? We'll see y'all tomorrow, baby. No, you know, tomorrow? Oh, Trang and Field start tomorrow, don't they? Trang and Field starts Saturday.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Are we not on tomorrow? Yeah, we are on tomorrow. Man. Yeah. Man, if they be running together, Ashby, yeah we are on tomorrow man yeah man this thing be running together Ashby got me all over the place so yeah we on tomorrow now
Starting point is 01:01:13 yes we are on tomorrow okay bet bet bet bet I'm finna start prepping right now I'm finna start prepping uh guys thank you for joining hey hey hey guess what what up I'm on first start prepping right now. I'm finna start prepping. Uh, guys, thank you for joining. Oh, hey, hey, hey, uh, guess what? What up? I'm on first take again in the morning.
Starting point is 01:01:30 God dang! You told me to tell you, you told me to tell you, so I'm telling you now. You on there today? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, three times the charm. So why'd you tell, why'd you tell, why'd you, why'd you tell me you was gonna be on there? I, I told you. No, you told me now.
Starting point is 01:01:45 I know, I'm telling you now, I'm gonna be on there tomorrow morning. Why'd you tell, why'd you tell me you was going to be on there? I told you. No, you told me now. I know. I'm telling you now. I'm going to be on there tomorrow morning. Why didn't you tell me you was going to be on there today? I told you yesterday. No, we didn't want to have no show yesterday. We did have a show yesterday. No, we didn't.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Oh, that's why I wasn't able to tell you because we didn't have no show. So you didn't know nothing about this until today. Yeah, they told me this morning. But I know I'm on there today. so they bring me back for a third date. For some reason, I think subconsciously, this is like an interview for me, I think. It's like a little interview. So they might, you know, I don't know. Me and you could be working together again.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Like, you ain't going to never get rid of me. Because I'm going to be like your little puppy. Who listens better? Who got the most votes? Who they got? Ocho won? Of course I won. I told you I had the better list. How? What you mean, how?
Starting point is 01:02:37 Kevin Durant, Sean White, Usain Bolt. Better than Phelps and Biles them two alone on any list should be making the best nah nah nah nah and I got Carl Lewis and I got Eric Heiden hey listen
Starting point is 01:02:54 your list is good but I have the better list no it just is what it is thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap I am your favorite, Uncle Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite, number 85, the route runner extraordinaire, the bingo ring of fame honoree, pro bowler, all pro, Liberty City's own.
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Starting point is 01:04:04 Thankfully, as you mentioned, James, thank you for purchasing. I hope to see you in Houston. Everybody received their merch. Ocho, U.S. men's team, the women played tomorrow, beat South Sudan 103-86.
Starting point is 01:04:20 It wasn't nearly as close as it was the other time they played in a USA win 101 to 100. USA bounced back, went by 17, and they look good in the process of doing it. Again, I'm your favorite on Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, Ocho Cinco. We'll see you tomorrow. Thank you.
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