Nightcap - Nightcap - Unc & Ocho react to Packers-Vikings, David Tepper's Tantrum, Lamar Jackson's MVP Push

Episode Date: January 1, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Green Bay Packers taking on the Minnesota Vikings on NFL Sunday Night Football, Panthers owner David Tepper appearing to throw a drink on a Jag...uars fan, the Baltimore Ravens locking up the 1 seed in the AFC with a big win over the Miami Dolphins, Lamar Jackson all-but locking up his second NFL MVP award, and much more! Order Shannon's cognac - https://leportiercognac.com/products/shay_vsop_750ml/ 05:00 - Packers beat Vikings 11:00 - Ravens destroy Dolphins 27:00 - What's wrong with the Eagles 37:30 - Niners earn number 1 seed 49:00 - David Tepper gone wild 01:07:45 - Shannon kisses his dog on the mouth 01:30:15 - Should Shannon have another kid? 01:44:15 - Much more Nightcap!   #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:39 Thank you for joining us for the final episode of Nightcap 2023. I'm your favorite sports on Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85 route runner extraordinaire. Bingo ring of fame. Yeah. Bingo legend. Chad Ocho. Sinko Johnson.
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Starting point is 00:03:44 button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button because our schedule this week is going to be a little quirky and we want to make sure that you don't miss don't miss an episode of nightcap this is our final episode this is going to probably be our best episode that's why we say the best for last the final nightcap of 2023 we can't wait for 2024 because we have an idea of what we're supposed to do now ocho and so 2024 is going to be bigger better and uh now we're off and running so let's get to the game right there that just ended packers beat the vikes they go to minnesota beat them 33 10 the packers end the season uh 2023 season with with a bang. Jordan Love looked very good, 24-33, 356, three pass touchdowns, a quarterback rating of 125.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Jaden Reed, six catches, 89 yards, two TDs. Bo Melton, six catches, 105 and a touchdown. The Packers, that young A, and that's without Watson, who many believe is their best receiver. Romeo Dobbs didn't get a whole lot involved tonight, but they got another young receiver in Heath, and then you throw Jaden Reed melting on top of that. They've got a nice young core of wide receivers, and you see Aaron Jones come back, run the football effectively. We know he can catch it.
Starting point is 00:05:00 He's a Swiss Army Knight. He can catch it. He can run it. He's great in blitz pickup. Big Dylan, the big bruising back to get you tough, short yardage. I like what the Packers possess offensively moving forward, and the defense is only going to get better. So they go in, keep their slim playoff hopes alive.
Starting point is 00:05:17 33-10 by beating the Minnesota Vikings. What did you like about what you saw from the Pack? Listen, the Packers, first of all, with the win next week, the Packers can obviously clinch a playoff spot if they beat the Bears next week. But offensively, what I saw from them with the ability to run the ball, what I like to call thunder and lightning, as a pair of running backs, they do have Aaron and, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:05:42 my brother Aaron and Mr. Dillon being able to do, they have two different running styles, but they get it done differently. I like calling them thunder and lightning. One is quick and fast. And one is a bruising back that can, that can bleed the clock for you. When you're able to run the ball the way that they did tonight. That's why the passing game was so successful. That's why it was so successful. Then you have all the young bulls, the young bulls that are answering the call at every time they throw the ball.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Jordan Love has to be not not not licking and chopping, trying to think of the word and really understanding that regards to who he goes to. They always come in, come in the clutch form every time. Deep balls, short balls, intermediate balls. Everything was working for them boys and nights simply because the running game was that successful. Yeah, Ocho, you have to feel very good. If I'm the Packers front office, Brian Gutekind, who's
Starting point is 00:06:36 the GM, Mark Murford, who's the CEO of the Packers, you have to feel good with where you are. I don't think they're going to have a problem extending Jordan Love, considering when you look at these plethora of young receivers that he has, and I think he's shown you, you made the right
Starting point is 00:06:52 decision. Aaron gave you 17, 18 great years. There's nothing to feel sad about. It was time for him to move on. It was time for you guys to move on. He's in the Jets, and hopefully he can overcome that Achilles injury and get back on the field next year, and let to move on. He's in the Jets and hopefully he can overcome that Achilles injury and get back on the field next year
Starting point is 00:07:07 and let's see what he can do for the Jets. But if I'm the Green Bay Packers, I love where I am with Jordan Love, these young receivers. Aaron Jones ran the ball extremely well. You mentioned A.J. Dillon, Taylor ran the ball. They had 150, 150, 177.
Starting point is 00:07:24 They had almost 190 yards rushing. So anytime you get 190 yards rushing and your quarterback 24, 33, because now we're going to throw the ball when we want to throw it. You're not dictating when we throw it. We're not behind the sticks and you force us to throw the
Starting point is 00:07:39 ball. We throw it when we're ready. Area of the field, down the distance when we're ready because we have that kind of confidence in our offense so the uh the packers look very good um i thought the vikings would give a little bit more fight than what they put up but you're on your field especially especially this is the funny thing about it this is this is weird to me usually when it's a division opponent sometimes the game goes very seldom is it lopsided and one-sided like it was tonight because you're familiar with what they're going to do you know obviously when you play a division
Starting point is 00:08:09 opponent you throw in a different wrinkle or two you know most of the time it's the same stuff just different formation sets and little i call it salad dressing you know to throw them off but you're familiar with a team that you're playing that you see twice a year and for it to be one sided throughout the entirety of the game until what? The last few minutes when the Vikings were able to score in garbage time? Again, the quarterback carousel doesn't make it no better.
Starting point is 00:08:34 It doesn't make it no better. Obviously, you start with... What's the first quarterback's name? Kirk Cousins. No, not Kirk. Yeah, Kirk. He tore the Achilles. I mean, no. The one who started the first half. You're talking about Mullins. Yeah, not Kirk. Yeah, Kirk. He tore the key leads. I mean, no, the one who started the first half. Oh, you're talking about Mullins. You're talking about Mullins.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Mick Mullins. Yeah. And it just, Justin Jefferson did what he could. He did what he could do. They tried to get him the ball. He wasn't as efficient. I mean, we can't have a one-man show. That ain't going to never work.
Starting point is 00:09:01 They have a one-man show. They couldn't run the ball efficiently. And obviously, the offense sputtered. I can see the frustration on Justin Jefferson's face. But I think he'll be fine next year. Maybe rush him. Oh, now you like that, huh? I like it.
Starting point is 00:09:18 But again, I prefer the Steelers for him just based on history and what they've been able to do when it when it comes to playoffs and Super Bowl wins but other than that in Minnesota I think they're gonna be fine as long as they make sure they take care of the quarterback position because right now they don't have an answer at the hand uh it's it's a rarity that you can have your starting quarterback go down and then the backup comes in and he plays really well for an extended period of time right um Cincinnati has to feel very good with the showing, even though they lost today. But I think Jake Browning has acquitted himself very well. He's showing that I'm able to stick around.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I can make plays, give them an opportunity. And he picked up some plays with his legs because, you know, the thing is Joe is pretty athletic also. So I'm not going to say Joe wouldn't or couldn't have picked up those plays because Joe is more athletic than you think. But you see today, Jake Browning didn't have a problem tucking the ball. I think he got like three first down on five scrambles. But at the end, his offensive line just couldn't hold up,
Starting point is 00:10:17 and they sacked him like five of the last six possessions, a drop-back pass attempt. So Green Bay keep their playoffs hopes alive. Thirty three ten or the Minnesota Vikings. Let's I'm going to get to the David Tepper incident. But let's go to the Ravens, because I think over the last couple of weeks, they've been the most impressive. And I don't think if you look at the stretch that they've had, even when San Francisco
Starting point is 00:10:41 beat the brakes off the Cowboys, they went to the Eagles and beat the brakes off them uh they went to jacksonville and they beat some teams but if you look at what the ravens have done they did a demolition job hold on let me find this game up here at it right there you know you don't feel like the minority report when you drop this is the second best team now remind me remember now they went on the road last week and beat the number one team by 14. This is the second best team in the AFC. And they dropped 50. Right. Offensively.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Offensively. They're the second best team in the AFC. You said Miami Dolphins were the second best team in the AFC. That's what you've been telling me for the last six weeks. Offensively. Offensively. Offensively, yes. So where did they rank as a team in the AFC before
Starting point is 00:11:29 you saw Baltimore do what they did today? Where would you rank Miami? Because that's not what you've been saying. Go ahead. Remember, I've been ranking the Miami Dolphins extremely high because of Tua, Tyreek, and what they've been able to do offensively. The defense is okay.
Starting point is 00:11:45 It's okay. It's not the type of defense like Baltimore has where there's no weak link anywhere. Well, whoever has a complete team, you have to look at San Francisco to say they're as complete from top to bottom as the Baltimore Ravens. Top to bottom, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:01 You saw what the Ravens did to them. But we had Miami and everybody's power ranking polls the miami dolphins were the third best team of no worse than fourth of all the teams ranked right now if you in the afc they were second best and they just got 56 hung on them and and so you look at baltimore you look at what they did to Detroit. You look at what they did to Seattle. You look at what they did to San Francisco. You look at what they did to Miami. This is a team that you don't want to fool with because they can run it.
Starting point is 00:12:34 You look at what they had. Gus Edwards, 16 rushes, 66 yards. Hill, three rushes, 45 yards. Lamar Jackson, six for 35. Melvin Gord even got into the action. He only had 10 yards that long of seven but he got he got a touchdown um lamar jackson 15 or 21 321 five touchdowns a perfect cue back rating the that's the third one on yeah this season this is the third one of
Starting point is 00:13:02 his career in general general. In general. OK, OK. Same as Peyton Manning. The same as Tom Brady. Right. The same as Kurt Warner. All those guys are retired. So Lamar Jackson has an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:13:17 It's something about Miami because he had another perfect quarterback rating against Miami. You remember he opened up the season in 2019 when he won the MVP. He threw for five. Yeah, that's the season. And so it's something about Miami. Maybe he's like, man, y'all should have took me. Maybe it's he know all the homies in the MVP. He threw for five touchdowns. Yeah, that season. And so it's something about Miami. Maybe he's like, man, y'all should have took me. Maybe it's he know all the homies and the family. He's from that area. They're watching him play. Right. And so he put on the show.
Starting point is 00:13:33 But the Ravens put everybody on notice last week with what they did. Now, everybody's undivided attention, Ocho, because Monday night, you know, everybody, they know the game on. So they did what they did to the 49ers many believe that was the best team in football and they beat them by two touchdowns now we come and everybody has started to feel good about the Dolphins because they had just beat the Cowboys and bro you got 56 dropped on you yeah yeah and
Starting point is 00:14:03 listen it's it's it's it's, it's different. It's different. I don't, I don't know how to explain it. It's something about the Ravens, obviously defense that AFC North, they play a different kind of football. They play a different kind of football defensively.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I'm going to just start there. They play a different kind of football defensively. Then on the flip side of things, the supporting cast that Lamar Jackson has now, the, the year that he won the mvp in 2019 it's that much better we he didn't the onus and having to have success offensively is it is it it isn't all on his shoulders bateman coming through zay flowers going crazy
Starting point is 00:14:39 odell making clutch catches doing what we're used to seeing him do. And the running game is efficient as well. So it's like there's a balance of everything. And then Lamar, he's dropping back to pass and only running when he has to because everything else around him is efficient and working really well. And then the defense is playing phenomenal football. Man. Ocho, you look at what they did. Give Todd Munk and a lot of credit
Starting point is 00:15:06 um the way he's come in he's uh put lamar in a system where lamar feels very very comfortable we know lamar has legs we know the ravens can run the football but now it's a lot of five man out it's not dependent on the tight end um even though and i think some of the best the best thing and you hate to see mark andrews go, but it forced Lamar to focus a little bit more on his receivers. Now, he still has likely that can go make plays for him, that one-hand catch on fourth down that ended up being a touchdown because it was a tremendous catch and run by him. But now they have receivers.
Starting point is 00:15:37 You look at Zay Fly with three catches, 106 yards, 75 yards. Crazy. I love what Todd Munkin did. They got the running back matched up on the linebacker. Go ahead. Hold on. Somebody having kid problems.
Starting point is 00:15:56 But the Ravens, man, they look good. Ladies and gentlemen, the Ravens have won six straight games since week 11. Since week 11, home loss to the Cleveland Browns. And when you look at what they've done, they beat the number one team in the NFC, the number one team. I mean, what the Ravens are doing, there's a difference between beating teams
Starting point is 00:16:20 and beating teams up. Hey, baby,. Why you crying? What did Daddy do? Say hi. How you still up this time of night? Go play. Go play with Sissy. And Ocho, I was telling Go play. Go play with Sissy. And with...
Starting point is 00:16:47 I was telling the listeners in the chat. I said there's a difference between beating teams and then beating teams up. They're beating teams up. They're physically. And that's the one thing about the Ravens. If you beat the Ravens, you got to have physical.
Starting point is 00:17:03 And they ain't cute. They ain't going to do all that razzle-dazzle. They ain't got a whole bunch of trick plays. They line up and they punch you in the mouth. And then you better punch them back. Right in the mouth. And you know what the funny thing about it is? The AFC North has always been like that.
Starting point is 00:17:16 It's always been like that. I always call it a two-chance draft game. Anytime we had to play a division opponent, we had to play the Steelers, you had to play the Browns, or you had to play the Ravens. You got to play the ravens you got to bring your hard hat you got to bring your hard hat because all that uh playing pretty and and and and hitting people and getting up and tapping them on the shoulder good name that ain't none of that i mean it's it's personal for some reason it's personal every time you play them boys and it showed today it's a very physical you know the
Starting point is 00:17:44 game you know when the game flipped? When the Dolphins had to settle for that field goal, Tyreek had a touchdown and he bobbled it in the sun. Yeah. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. And listen,
Starting point is 00:17:56 the game started on your dog. I thought it was going to be, I thought it was going to be a scoring fest back to back. And I tweeted it out. I said, you know what? The Dolphins scored. I said, you know what? The Ravensins scored. I said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:18:05 The Ravens are going to go back and answer. The Ravens are going to go down and answer because it always happens like that when the game starts out until the defenses settle in. And then from that point on, it becomes a chess match between the coordinators. I'm going to put my pieces in a better position
Starting point is 00:18:20 to beat your pieces. And you go from there. Then after Tyreek, after Tyreek bo tyreek bobbed that ball and they had to get a field goal man it was it was it was a runaway train from that point on started turning the ball over you know uh oh you know you and i we kept those receipts right you know and we keep receipts everybody keep a receipt you don't ever say he had a good game i keep receipts i keep receipts okay right baltimore say we kept receipts too these two right right
Starting point is 00:18:47 you know what on two of those interceptions i don't know why but every time the dolphins line up in that tight split with the receiver like on the outside head to the numbers on both sides it's the same bang eight every time the bang like you used to run yes yes baby okay okay okay i got you yeah it every time and both times it ran the bang eight from the tight split it was an interception because you all they're gonna do is they're gonna fake it and they're gonna try to hit they're gonna try to hit and roquan made a great play on the ball roquan he followed the eyes the first time and the second time it was another pick and even if he did complete it it won't be intercepted because the db was right there on it he ran the route and he was throwing and they were they were bothering uh uh tour because tour was high he got he almost got tyreek hurt on that sideline
Starting point is 00:19:34 so we overthrew him and tyreek trying to make a play on the ball yeah yeah so he he was really high today uh people are bringing up lamar stat lam Lamar Jackson is tied for 10th in passing touchdowns, 24. He's ranked 13th in passing yards, 3,678. Only two quarterbacks have ever won the MVP while finishing outside of the top five in both categories. Steve McNair did in 2003 and Bart Starr in 1966. But I think because the Ravens have been so good and Lamar Jackson has been his, he's not going to have 40 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Ladies and gentlemen, he's not going to throw for 45. The office, the office, no, no like that. Anyway, what he's done it because when you go back and look at the lions are going
Starting point is 00:20:15 to the playoff, they're the number they're, they're, uh, they're the third seed in the NFC. He took them apart. It looks like Seattle has a chance to make the playoffs. He took them apart.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah. The 49ers are the number one seed. He took them apart. It looks like Seattle has a chance to make the playoffs. He took them apart. The 49ers are the number one seed. He took them apart. Miami has an opportunity to win the division and be the number two seed in the AFC. He took them apart. So when you look at his body of work and the teams that he did a number on, I don't know who else you can give the MVP to. You have to give it to him because obviously we were talking Purdy. We were screaming Purdy.
Starting point is 00:20:48 We were screaming Purdy. We were screaming Purdy. Then we were screaming Dak. I thought the 49ers looked like a team that wasn't going to lose. I almost had them lock to go to Vegas and win in Lombardi. Based on the way they were playing offensively and the way they were playing defensively, I'm like, ain't no way in hell anybody gonna beat them then I think about then the Ravens come into town oh my goodness it's almost as if they don't even belong on the on the field with
Starting point is 00:21:14 them boys that that's what it looked like they dominated on both sides of the ball all three phases of the game they dominated offense they dominated special teams and they dominated on defense then they come back again and do the same thing the day to the Dolphins. See, the Dolphins got questions, though, Joe, because you remember
Starting point is 00:21:30 earlier in the season, they went on the road to Buffalo and Buffalo dropped a 50-bomb on them. After they had just dropped 70 on the Broncos. And I was like, ah, now, it kind of eased people's mind
Starting point is 00:21:41 a little bit because they beat the Cowboys because that was at home and that's the only team that they beat with a winning record but now you have you have to have even more questions than answers because they went on the road and they didn't they didn't look like they belong in forget in the same book they don't even belong on the same shelf as the Ravens the Ravens took them apart outside of the first quarter the game was never was never close I don't think it was in anybody's mind I doubt in anyone's mind that the Ravens were going apart. Outside of the first quarter, the game was never close. I don't think it was in anybody's mind, I doubt in anyone's mind,
Starting point is 00:22:07 that the Ravens were going to win this game. The question was how much. Now, I picked the Ravens to win this game. I don't think anybody had it 56-19, no joke. No, no, no, no, no, not by that much. Obviously, with as efficient as the Dolphins offense has been all season long, I expect it to be a shootout, a continuous shootout. Kind of like last year. Me giving the in.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Week two last year, it ended up being, what, 42, 45, 38, something like that? Mm-hmm. Yeah, but what the Raven defense was able to do, they were able to make Tua uncomfortable. They were able to get him off his spot so he couldn't sit and make some of the throws being that he's a he's a time he's a timing passer and that offense it relies on timing a lot but he wouldn't he would his timing was thrown off the entire time because of the defense and they did a great job uh uh and he and they did this without marlon humphrey for a large part of the game because he went out like the first
Starting point is 00:23:01 second series and so they were able to do this without hump yeah the Dolphins got some questions so now the question is what Miami Dolphins team is going to show up at home because the winner of the Buffalo Miami that's who's going to win the division yeah
Starting point is 00:23:19 you think you think after getting the 50 burger I call it 50 burger after they got had a 50 burger hung on them the first time, there's no way in hell they allow the Bills to come in town and hang another 50 burger on them again. So this is a game that they have to win because this is as close to the playoffs as you're going to get because these are the type of teams that you're going to play. It's a division opponent.
Starting point is 00:23:41 You know them very, very well. And I don't think it'll be a high scoring game as it was the first time. But you got it. You got to show up. You got to show up. The offensive line has to give Tua time to throw. They're stepping Tua throws. They got to move Tyreek around.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Brother Wilson has to show up. Robbie Anderson. Brother Claypool. Jalen Waddle will be back as well. And I think they'll be fine. Hope Mostert, who has, I think, maybe a knee or maybe an ankle problem. They should have
Starting point is 00:24:07 their entire squad back for that game. So they should be fine. A-Chan ran the ball extremely well. He was 14 carries or 107 yards. So they were more than adequate
Starting point is 00:24:19 in the run game. But kind of when you fall behind, Ocho, you're at the mercy of the pass game. So now you got to pass to try to get back into the ball game. The Ravens know you have to pass the football. So now they're really pressuring Tua and he's not a guy.
Starting point is 00:24:31 He's not very mobile. He can slide a little bit, but he's not a guy that you're afraid of taking off that he jumps out the window. He's going to take off and kill you with his leg. Yeah. But Buffalo beat him for, if I'm not mistaken,
Starting point is 00:24:44 I think the score was 48 20 the question is which quarterback is going to take better care of the football both of these quarterback has a propensity of turning the ball over josh they got lucky today that they were playing the new england patriots and bailey zappy turned the ball over three times in like four possessions and then josh allen let them right back in the game by turning the ball over himself we saw two both of these guys have a propensity they can have anywhere between one and four turnovers at the drop of a hat you turn the ball over multiple times that's the team that's going to probably end up losing the game and so it's going to be very interesting to see which team can take care of the football the best and make because that's the team that's going to win this division.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Yeah. I mean, the fact that they are playing that last game at home here in Miami at Hard Rock, I think that might give them the edge a little bit. It might give them the edge a little bit, finishing off the right way. Obviously, knowing you're going to the playoffs, the implications that are at stake in this game,
Starting point is 00:25:41 you got to show up and play good football and protect the ball. And I'm sure Tua knows that. Mike Medano is going to stress that to him throughout the entirety of this week. The Eagles lose to the Cardinals. The Cardinals had the easiest closing football schedule, had the easiest closing schedule in football, according
Starting point is 00:25:57 to ESPN Power Football Index. They just needed wins over the Cardinals 4-12, the New York Giants 5-11 to secure the NFC East title for the second consecutive year. Something that hadn't been done. I think since 2001 or 2000, it's been like 20 years since our team have won back to back NFC East titles.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Now the Cowboys are in the catbird seat. All they need to do is go to Washington, beat the commanders and they clinch the division, and they become the number two seed. Yeah. What happened to the Eagles today? Because I saw your tweet. Eagles fans, do
Starting point is 00:26:36 y'all want to listen to me now? Are you going to listen to me now, or do you still think it's hate? I told them three months ago. Oh, we winning. You don't know what you're talking about. Shut up, big mouth. You just hating. Okay, now. I see because what was happening, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:26:51 I was watching the game very closely. And I'm telling what fans do. They watch as long as the team scores or they get a sack and they win, they're happy. But I'm looking at it with a finer eye. And I saw some things. I said, that defense isn't the same. I said, the thing is,
Starting point is 00:27:08 I said, they can't, I said, now, when Jalen Hurst started turning the ball, he wasn't bad at it. They turned the ball over one time and Kyler Murray gave up a 99-yard pick six. But this defense, they can't take the ball away
Starting point is 00:27:23 like they took it away last year. And they don't run the ball like they ran it last year. So when you can't possess the football, if you got a bad unit, and let's just say your defense is bad, and you can't run the football, you know what happens with three and outs? You put that bad unit back on the field. On the field. They had the lead.
Starting point is 00:27:44 And Kyler Murray went down to with ease and got a game winning touchdown with ease so now you're gonna have to you know you get a game no hello you're gonna be on the road yeah now there'll be a wild card so there'll be the four seed there'll be the five seed because only one team gonna buy the cowboys win they'll be the two seed the lions will be the three seed and see who's gonna be the four 49 49 is one they get to buy cowboys is two right lions is three and and the bucks and the nfc and the af and the NFC South, the Bucs, uh, the saints or the Falcons will be the four seed.
Starting point is 00:28:29 So now the lions are the five seed. Now you feel pretty good. Cause don't you think the lions can go on the road and beat the Bucs can beat the, uh, saints can beat the Falcons. Right. Hey,
Starting point is 00:28:42 listen, you would think that, but you know, come playoff time. This is it you know what it is any given sunday ain't no telling what's gonna happen you never know what team you're gonna show up with the way baker baker mayfield has been playing i wouldn't want to see he looked bad they got after yeah they got it they got they got they got they got after him. They got after him today. And roughed him up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:29:08 He ended up losing the game. He ended up, excuse me, not losing the game, leaving the game. He took a vicious shot from the honey badger, Tyron Matthew. And he ended up having to leave the game. But the Eagles started the season 10-1. 10-1. Now they're 1-4 in the last in the last five games last five again yeah do they have enough time no to fix whatever the issues are obviously you know the defense we need we need sacks we need turnovers we need we need what we had last year offensively being
Starting point is 00:29:41 able to establish the run to open up the pass to make it easier that way or do you think it's too late i was even when they were full strength i wasn't impressed with their back end because i thought their back end wasn't very good and now slay is out their back end isn't very good they miss uh they miss gardner johnson because he he you know he could take the ball away now that I'm not impressed. The offensive line, they don't run. They're not as violent as they were last year in the run game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:15 And look, I understand they did lose both coordinators. That's something to be saying. One of their coordinators went to Indy. The other coordinator went to the Cardinals. So that's something to be saying. But that's no excuse. You start 10 and 1 and you're losing these games but it wasn't a problem we didn't mention the coordinators when they was 10 and 1 ain't nobody mentioned up by the coordinator did the old joke right right right no not at all listen i don't i don't like really blaming the coordinators
Starting point is 00:30:41 because there's a scheme that they come up with x X's and O's and it's up to the players to execute it. Regardless of what it is. Regardless of what it is. Only team in 35 years to start a season, 10 or 1 or better, and finish the season with 5 plus losses. And that's what the Eagles are staring at. So it's going to be very
Starting point is 00:31:00 interesting to see if they can bounce back and get this thing on the right track. But that's not going to be an easy victory at the Giants. Because remember, they struggled to beat the Giants two weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the NFL is funny.
Starting point is 00:31:17 For some reason, at times, teams that are horrible, teams that have losing records, teams that haven't been playing good all year long when it comes to the nut nut i call it nut cutting time late in the season where it should be an easy win they always seem up either struggling against those teams that aren't very good or you end up losing playoff chances or hopes against teams that are trying to spoil your chance bro misery love company i ain't going to the playoffs i want you cleaning out your locker tomorrow too as a matter of fact hey what you got going on what you got going on monday tuesday because we both gonna be free right if you don't say we're going home you're gonna be going home
Starting point is 00:31:58 too yeah hold on let me let me let me let me let me, let me lay her down. Let me lay her down. Yeah. So it's going to be a very interesting, I'm anxious to see, um, how, uh, the Eagles, ladies and gentlemen, in the chat,
Starting point is 00:32:13 how they play this out. Cause there's some doubt. Don't let the, no, I know they're going to tell you, we, we got the people in this room. You better have them.
Starting point is 00:32:19 You can't add anybody. They didn't take anybody out. I get all that coach speaking. Oh, are we still confident? No, you're not. No, you're not. Your confidence has been shaken.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Because you started 10-1 and everybody had you as the front runner. They're going to repeat and yada, yada, yada. But it's not as simple as you think. I'm anxious to see what Miami. I'm anxious to see Miami because there's a lot riding on it. The Cowboys have a chance to sort the number two seed and win the division. The Eagles, hey, we can win the game. Maybe Washington Springs is a surprise.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And then we get right back into the division and win the division. So it's going to be very, very interesting to see what we got. It's going to be very, very interesting to see what transpires next weekend. Right. Hey, man, look at this one here. What we're looking at?
Starting point is 00:33:12 Hey, Ray! Happy New Year, baby. Happy New Year, Ray. Hold on. We got to look what I got to show. Yeah, baby. What you mean we got to bring it? I'm bringing it to New Year with Unc.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Okay, okay. Yeah, y'all see that right there? That was bubbling. You hear the countdown? I can't hear. Two, one. Happy New Year. Happy New Year.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Happy New Year. I ain't got no drink. Happy New Year, Chad. You ain't got no drink. Happy New Year. I love you. Chad, I love y'all. Happy New Year, Chad. You ain't got no drink. Happy New Year. I love you. Chad, I love y'all. Happy New Year, Unc.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I love you, baby. Happy New Year, all that good stuff. See, Unc got some glasses. I can't prepare. All right, love you too. I got to remain professional. You know what, Ocho? All right, baby.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I'm going to pour Ocho a glass, y'all. All right, all right. That's good. That's New Year. Hold on. Let me say my little prayer now let me take my head off yes happy new year hopefully 24 is 10 times better than 23. A lot of what we've been able to accomplish is directly because of you. You tuned in,
Starting point is 00:34:28 you stayed in, you come for the football, you stay for the stories and Ocho and I and the entire team at the volume, uh, nightcap. We greatly appreciate it. Thank you for your support. And we look forward to,
Starting point is 00:34:40 uh, uh, 2024 because we're going to be even better. Happy new year, everyone. Yeah. Happy new year chat.. Happy New Year, Chad. I love you. You know how I feel about you. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I don't drink. I don't drink. I appreciate that. When we hit that million sub, when we hit that million sub, trust me, I'm going to drink some of that C trust me, I'm going to drink some of that Cognac. I'm going to drink some of that
Starting point is 00:35:07 Cognac now. What is this? What you drinking on? That's on Bubbly. Yeah, yeah. What Bubbly mean? That's a champagne. Oh, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Like, it's a special... It ain't a real, real... Maybe when we get a million subs, we break out the real stuff. Right. So, you know what? Okay, yeah. You can post over this on some toes, huh?
Starting point is 00:35:38 What that is? You know, post over this. I can't get nobody... Nah, they ain't... What's the name of that? We can't give them the name of that. They ain't paid they gotta pay for advertising
Starting point is 00:35:46 on here Ocho okay okay okay okay listen you know what you could you know you know what you can pull over some toes that cognac
Starting point is 00:35:54 you can push over that oh you know what I think about Ocho what if I pull like pull something down the back you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:36:01 Ocho and let it just run down you know water you know water flows downhill, right? Listen, see, I like where you're going with it. See, 2024, we got a new
Starting point is 00:36:12 Shannon Sharp. You can pour it down her back, right? And catch it as it go down the crack. Down the crack. That thing like a waterfall, huh? When TLC go and say, don't go chasing waterfalls, I'll buy the crack. Yeah. Yeah. That thing like a waterfall, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:26 When TLC go, don't go chasing waterfalls. I'm about to chase, I'm about to chase a champagne fall. Yeah. There you go. There you go. I like, I like where you going with it this year.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I like this new Shannon. 2024. Let's go, baby. He put trouble. Somebody need for trouble with you. They put it. Oh, it's going to be a good year. That's one thing about champagne. Once you pop the cork, you can't go back in there because that cork
Starting point is 00:36:52 expands and it popped up out of there. Ocho, the 49ers clinched the top seed. They go on the road, beat Washington, 27-10. Brock Purdy. Hold on. Let me get it right here. Hold up. Oh, here it is right here.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Brock Purdy, 22-28, 232 touchdowns. Brandon Iyuk had seven catches, 114 yards on the touchdown. Debo had 37 on the touchdown. They ran the football extremely, extremely well
Starting point is 00:37:26 today. They had over 200 yards rushing. Let's see. That's one, 44, 75. They had about 185, 189 yards running the football, but that's what the 49ers do. They run the football and then they throw the ball when they want
Starting point is 00:37:44 to. They don't let you dictate when they're going to throw it. The Ravens made them throw it on their term. But the 49ers are the number one seed because the Eagles lost. The 49ers clinched the number one spot. What did you like?
Starting point is 00:38:00 Did you like what you see today? Did you like what you saw today? Yeah. I like what I saw. The 49ers were back on what they're used to doing. Obviously, being able to run the ball, being efficient, your smoke screens. Obviously, defense played well. Debo, efficient.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Ayuk, doing what Ayuk does. Ayuk has quietly had a very good year, Ojo. Yeah, very, very, very good year. Brock Purdy being able to escape and extend plays with his legs, which is something we don't see often because the ball is normally coming out fast. But he looked good today. Brock had a very, very good bounce back game. Very, very good bounce back game.
Starting point is 00:38:44 He needed that for his confidence. I mean, you play as poorly as he did on Monday night. Yeah, with them three interceptions. That could be the more likely. With the three or four, I think he had four. He had five turnovers. But anyway, Ocho, but you know it's a very short week because you play on Monday, and now you got to get on a plane
Starting point is 00:38:59 and fly cross-country, which probably means they left probably Friday. So it was a very, very short week. You probably had a quick walk through and then you head to the East Coast and he bounced back in grand fashion, 22 and 28, 232 touchdowns. They ran the ball extremely well. McCaffrey did. He didn't get very much action, but Elijah Mitchell ran the ball extremely well, 17 carries, 80 yards and a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:39:25 McCaffrey was 14 carries, 64 yards. But he is over 2,000 yards from scrimmage, which is a very impressive feat in and of itself. But the San Francisco 49ers go on the road, defeat the Washington Commanders, and sew up the number one seed in the NFC. So they will have a bye week. The question is, how do they play out the last game? The Rams need that game in order to make the playoffs. Do the 49ers
Starting point is 00:39:50 play their starters or do they rest their starters and take the time out? It's going to be very, very interesting. What would you do if you were Shanahan? If I don't play this week, I got a bye week
Starting point is 00:40:05 it's going to be three weeks before I see real action so you play him and risk the injury I play him for at least a half I mean I got to play him at least a half
Starting point is 00:40:14 okay okay yeah okay I'll play him for okay I mean I mean listen
Starting point is 00:40:21 after 16 weeks after 16 weeks of football I think you should be able to at least play them in a half and you not lose any momentum even if you have a bye week but I don't I don't that that to me that's scary to me that's scary obviously playing week to week to week to week to week to week and then having time off do you lose your momentum oh yeah yeah that's a lot that's the last three weeks, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:40:48 That's a long, long time. Because if you don't play this week, that's one week. You get to bye week. That's two weeks. Now, you're not playing for three whole weeks. Yeah, and no football. Yeah, that's tough. I kind of don't even like it. Do you know
Starting point is 00:41:04 the success rate of teams that have a bad first time? Well, I've been in a situation where I've had it both ways. We took off one week and we lost in the divisional round. The next time around, Mike made sure we played. So, that was it. So, the bye week really ain't a good thing then, really. But obviously, it's a shorter route to the Super Bowl. Obviously, it's a shorter route to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:41:24 The divisional, the NFC Championship, and then shorter route to the Super Bowl. Obviously, it's a shorter route to the Super Bowl. The NFC Championship, and then you're in the Super Bowl. And then the Bowl. Right. That's crazy. That's crazy. It sounds good, but again, will you still be the same team you were before you hit the bye? Or before you had that bye? Again, Happy New Year's, guys.
Starting point is 00:41:41 We really appreciate you. This is the last show of 2023. 2024 is going to be a big, big year for everyone. Hopefully, everything goes well. But you got to work at it, guys. Don't just say, oh, my New Year's resolution, and you don't do anything to make that resolution come true. So hopefully, you got started towards the end of 2023,
Starting point is 00:42:02 and you just springboard on to 2024. Because the likelihood of you just waking up in 2024 and says my life is different. I'm about to change things. It's probably not going to happen. So hopefully you have started that already. Yeah. A lot of people always do that. A lot of people always do that. Obviously, the gym tomorrow, the gym is going to be crowded. The gym is going to be crowded tomorrow morning. Everybody always had New Year's resolutions. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:42:31 And they always start out great the first week, the first two weeks, maybe even the first month. But discipline and structure, if it was never there before, you're not all of a sudden going to have it magically because it's a new year. That shit starts from within and it has nothing to do. It had nothing to do in new year at all. Hopefully you got started. You, you made that decision says 2024 is good. It's 2024.
Starting point is 00:42:54 It was going to be different to it. And I'm starting, I'm starting now. The moment you realize that you wanted 2024 to be different, you started the process of making it different in 2023. So we wish you nothing but the best of luck. Harry donated $200. He said,
Starting point is 00:43:09 Happy New Year, CapFam. My birthday is on the 2nd. Can I get a shout out? My name is Marcus. Marcus, happy birthday, bro. Happy birthday, bro. You kind of needed that thing on New Year's Eve, man. But congratulations, bro. Many more to come. Enjoy tonight. Hey, hey man i don't know
Starting point is 00:43:27 if my birthday will close tonight it'll be on yeah so you know my my birthday in eight days you might will go and have your birthday in february hey you don't miss crit you miss christmas You miss New Year's Eve eight days in? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm, listen. You will celebrate regardless. I don't really celebrate. And one thing I hate about
Starting point is 00:43:55 my birthday, I tear real all the time. Don't throw me no party. I don't want no party. Get me a nice cigar. Get me a cafe con leche or get me some Starbucks. I don't want no party. Get me a nice cigar. Get me a cafe con leche or get me some Starbucks. I have vinyl records, right? I love jazz. I love my Frank Sinatra. I love my blues. I love my old school music. Get me a coffee. Get me a cigar. Put me out there on the balcony. Let me play my vinyl records. Kick my feet up and relax. That's all I need. But here she go.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Always trying to surprise and do something extra knowing it's not what I want. I appreciate it. I appreciate what you're trying to do, but I'm simple. I don't, I, I love crowds if I have to be in them, but if I don't have to be in them, it's not something I really want to do. My close friends is cool. I don't have that many, you know, if I do have anything, it's my kids, my brothers, anytime I have anything going on, you know, T is always always been supportive of me you know when i lost my mom or i have my birthday you know t is always there other than that yeah i'm good i ain't trying to do it i see people when it comes to the birthday they have always my birthday week or my birthday month listen i say a prayer at 11 59 when that
Starting point is 00:44:59 when that clock hit 12 i thank god for seeing another year and i go on my day i don't i don't care for the shenanigans and all that you said um i thought you said vina sausage you said vinyl record i like what that ain't no nothing to celebrate with yeah yeah oh my bad my bad i got it i got a nice vinyl collection man the the sound is is so much it's so much yeah different you know being able to hear it off them records yeah um well well so eight days so that'll be the eighth that's a movie yeah i'm on the ninth i'm yeah january 9th night january 9 1968 jackson memorial hospital born at 308 a.m i I'll never forget. With the Bears get the number one draft pick, face the ultimate
Starting point is 00:45:47 decision with Justin Fields, with the Carolina Panther. Man, Justin Fields has shown that he should continue being the quarterback for the Chicago Bears. But with a talent like Caleb Williams, what do you do as
Starting point is 00:46:04 ownership? If you were the owner, what do you do as ownership if you were the owner what would you do my thing is oh joe okay you say caleb uh you say uh justin fields i got you haven't shown since he's been there that you have the ability or the qualifications to put talent around him so why should i trust you now if i'm justin fields why do i trust you now if i'm justin fields okay i'm like you know what guys i think it's best that you guys, we both move on. Send me to Atlanta. Send me to Atlanta. Justin Fields in Atlanta?
Starting point is 00:46:33 Going back home? Hey, I like where your mind at. Michael Bick 2.0. I like where your mind at. I like where your mind at. Drake London, B. John Robinson. Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Hey, that's nice. So I like it, and I don't know if it's possible. Chat, stay with me real quick, baby. Caleb Williams, Marvin Harrison Jr. Yeah. I don't know if it's possible because the Bears are winning, and so they're going down. I think what they possess now,
Starting point is 00:47:03 I think they got like the ninth pick in the draft. He's not going to be there. He's not going to be there at nine. Now, maybe, maybe what do we trade? What are we going to get from Atlanta if we trade them Justin Fields? They're 10th right now. What do we get for
Starting point is 00:47:19 Justin Fields? I believe Atlanta would be crazy not to give up a first-round pick to get Justin Fields. I mean, you would. You would give up a first-round pick to get Justin Fields. I mean, you would. You would want to. You would want to. Why not? Why not? Who has the second pick? Because whoever has the second pick, that's where Marvin Harrison
Starting point is 00:47:35 Jr. is going. Washington has the second pick. The Patriots have the third pick. They're going to move out of that spot because you already got Jahan Dotson. You got McLaurin. You already have Terry McLaurin. Oh, I forgot the third receiver name.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Curtis Samuel. You've got a very, very good, decent core right there. Decent trio. They need a quarterback in D.C. What if they overlap? Overlap and try to trade with the Bears to get that first pick and then they steal Caleb Williams?
Starting point is 00:48:09 I would assume whomever if Chicago gives up that pick, I'm assuming I'm assuming someone's coming to get Caleb Williams. That would be my assumption.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Now, you know, hey, the draft is funny. You never know. I mean, nobody thought Andy Reid would go up 17 spots to get Patrick Mahomes. So, yeah, he saw something. So it's going to be very interesting. But the question is, Ocho, for me, I'm just leery of the Bears being able to surround him with the talent that he needs.
Starting point is 00:48:49 And plus, it's going to cost you $200 million to extend Justin Fields, too. Right, right. I mean, well, either you're going to give it to him or the Falcons will. Oh, the Falcons got no problem because he had the thing I questioned with the Bears.
Starting point is 00:49:03 You let Roquan with a rock on Smith go. Yeah, that was weird. What? That was weird. And he hasn't missed a step over there in Baltimore at all. There's nothing wrong with him. He a perfect Raven. Nothing wrong with him. Nothing wrong with him at all.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Hey, I got a problem with you. When they find out that, oh, you've been telling me, oh, he a Raven. He got, oh, man, we should have had him way back when. Yeah. It's funny. It's funny how ownership or GMs or certain teams never see value in you, but they see the value in you once you're gone. And how valuable Roquan Smith is
Starting point is 00:49:45 to the Ravens defense. I'm not saying he's Ray Lewis, but he's Ray Lewis. Eric DeCosta, who's the GM or Ozzie, Ozzie still has a chair. It still has an office there. I call him all the time and aggravate the hell out of him.
Starting point is 00:49:56 The boy, what you want? Nothing. Just aggravate you. Cause I know you ain't doing it. You got all this free time. You telling everybody you got free time. Now you can do work on your golf game, which is still trash.
Starting point is 00:50:06 I know that somebody going to send you this clip. Your golf game is still trash, but you steal my dog. You steal my dog. Oh, I don't know if you saw this. David Tepper, who's the owner of the Carolina Panthers, video service of him throwing his drink on a Jaguars fan today. Roger Goodell got to come down hard. I'm talking about hard.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Hard. I'm talking about probably somewhere between a half a million and a million dollar fine and he's got to be suspended for a period of time. I like the fine. I like the fine because we get fine for every little thing. That's the owner. Is that a little too much?
Starting point is 00:50:46 I like the fine, though. The fine and apology to the fan itself. That's not a player. That's an owner. That's an owner. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Right. He is supposed to be above the fray. Yeah. And I get it. Your team is losing. That's one of the reasons I don't really like going to the game. I ain't no liar. I'm a sore loser. I'm an even sore winner.
Starting point is 00:51:17 So my team wins. Yeah, I'm... Ooh. I'm bad. Even as an owner, even in a, in a seat in a position of power like that, even he can feel based on what's said to you, you know, even he can react based on what's said to him, because again, he is human.
Starting point is 00:51:40 It's his team. He's the owner. Obviously he cares for, for one to even react in that manner and forget that you are the owner that says a lot about how he feels about that team in the direction and what they're going in where they're at right now not where they're going the direction where they are right now you just can't keep hiring and firing coaches he's only third he's only third i mean think about it he fired a mad rule Steve Wilkes, filled in, let him go, brought in, what's the guy? The quarterback. He was at Philly.
Starting point is 00:52:12 He was at Indy. Frank Reich. Frank Reich. Frank's gone now. You can't keep firing and hiring. You know what that comes from? I think that comes from being a successful businessman, I think, and thinking, well, in my world, when things don't work out, I just replace it with someone else. But in the football world, when things aren't working out, you can't just continue to replace
Starting point is 00:52:42 coach after coach after coach like you're in the business world. It doesn't work like that. And thinking that, okay, if I just bring in a new coach, all of a sudden things are going to turn around for the better. That's not the way it works with the NFL, with this game. It takes time building a team, building rapport, obviously getting the quarterback and then building the pieces around that quarterback to make sure you guys are able to be efficient and compete week in and week out stuff like that takes time i think they think throwing money is the easy answer and going after big names that's not how it works it's not how it's gonna work and today's today's day and age one thing that most owners don't have or coaches especially if you're not you don't have a football background is they
Starting point is 00:53:26 think everything is an easy fix what owners don't have is patience especially new owners now the older owners seem to have it a little more because they i mean like a lot of these owners they inherited it from their problems so especially if you inherited you know um a situation you know firing someone after a year or two is not the answer to go. Normally, you have to let let let them figure this thing out. But and today, everybody wanted microwave. Everybody wanted quick. Everybody wanted instantaneous. We want success. And and social media has spoiled us in the make.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Oh, how I made my first hundred million. How I became a millionaire overnight, how I did this, how I got this body in 22 minutes. See, everybody wants something. Everybody want it quick, Ocho. It's time, it's work. It's working to this, especially because... And if you do get it quick, it ain't gonna last long.
Starting point is 00:54:20 And that goes for anything, whether it's money, whether it's business. You know, everybody want to take the shortcut or find the loopholes to it but that ain't how it work somebody it's about longevity in order and with longevity there's a process to get to that point because i think the thing is also you understand because you're asking 53 guys to come together with different backgrounds, nationalities, you know, preference and religion and whatever the case may be for common goal. Yeah. And, you know, you have to have a guy that, uh, that can carry a room that can, that's a leader of man, that,
Starting point is 00:54:57 that's relatable, that resonate in that locker room. And it's not as easy as you think, because some guys that can carry a locker room, they can't coach. And some guys can coach, they don't relate and they don't carry a locker room and it's not as easy as you think because some guys that can carry a locker room they can't coach and some guys can coach they don't relate and they don't carry a locker room and so it's a fine line a fine line and a balance between finding that right mix that right combination but i just know that firing a coach every time the guy goes has a losing season or you don't think i don't think he's been just because you have enough money to buy a franchise.
Starting point is 00:55:29 That doesn't mean, you know, the intricacies of a football team and what it takes to build a contending and a championship caliber football team. And so I don't think he understands that. He just thinks he can come in. Oh, this ain't working.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Let me change. You can do CEOs like that of your business. Yeah, you can do that. Oh yeah. It doesn't work like me change. You can do CEOs like that of your business. Yeah, you can do that. Oh, yeah. Football doesn't work like that. Pro sports doesn't work like that. Ponies pick.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Mitch says, all these young bucks out on offense for the Packers, and they're still racking up points. Kiss the baby. I like the Packers in the future. I like them moving forward. I think they got something you can build on. Offensively, with those skill positions, with those skill players, and that quarterback, they're only going to get better, Ojo.
Starting point is 00:56:12 He's only going to get more confident. He's only going to get better. And they're going to get an opportunity to grow. Now, Watson is going to have to find a way to stay healthy because he's phenomenal when he's on the field. Yeah, very phenomenal. He's having hamstring injuries, and he's not sure he's on the field he just yeah very phenomenal he's having hamstring injuries and he's not sure obviously hamstring that soft tissue that's one thing you don't play with listen that hamstring and that groin you got to get you got to get those
Starting point is 00:56:35 two right anytime anything that is bothering you as a receiver anything with the lower extremities from the waist down that is hammering you is going to always be there unless you fix it so we need i mean obviously in the offseason you know brother christian watson needs to find out go see a specialist yeah whatever he might be he might be he might be he might be he might be off um mechanically maybe something with his gait maybe his hips are off a little bit maybe uh something is too strong and it's tugging maybe something is too weak and it's tugging. Maybe something is too weak and it's causing his hamstring to fatigue and to overexert. But that's something that he definitely needs to get worked out. Hey, Ocho, maybe he's working too much in practice.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Maybe they need to back him down in practice. Yeah. Yeah. Well, listen, with the way the CBA, the rules are, as far as practice is concerned, I don't think they practice enough. Well, I'm going to say maybe he... I mean, based on the schedule that I've seen, it's ridiculous. Well, maybe it's the running. ItBA, the rules are as far as practice is concerned, I don't think they practice enough. I mean, based on the schedule that I've seen, it's ridiculous. The running, not the hitting, but you know the receivers, and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Look, I'm talking about when I was in that West Coast system, we had to finish 40 yards. So no matter how far, no matter you catch a flat route, you had to turn up and go 40. You got to go 40 yards. So that was a lot. We did a lot of running no joke a lot of running right ain't no hey i called it and turn up five y'all and it wasn't none of that bro
Starting point is 00:57:51 because every time mike wanted you to finish you know jerry started that bush bull jive jerry rice started that yeah with coach walsh jerry would catch it and finish like he was going to the house every time he wanted a mindset i'm scoring and the funny thing about it is what you do in practice it carry it carries over into the game and it's just second nature it just you had to finish past mike so as we started to get he come down he back it down to like 30 yards but you had to finish past him and he'd be watching you know he'd be down there holding the play sheet. Man, I hated
Starting point is 00:58:28 catching a flat ride. You know, if you're catching a seam, you're catching a seven, you're already down the field 20 yards. Oh, you good. You're already down there, but you can't send a shot. Come on, bro. I'm catching a shallow crawl. I got to turn up and go 30. But it's going to be interesting to see
Starting point is 00:58:44 what commission Goodell, because obviously he's going to be interesting to see what Commissioner Goodell, because obviously he's going to tell him this is not a good look. This is a horrible look. He's going to have to do something, huh? He's going to have to do something. What's the most they can find him? A half a million? Maybe a half a million is the most they can find.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I mean, listen. The bad work ain't not being you. What the hell, $500,000 a year? It ain't hurting nobody. That ain't hurting nobody. That ain't hurting nobody. I mean, if you want to hit him, most of the time, they always tell you, you hit him where it hurt, and it's the pockets.
Starting point is 00:59:13 What hurt owners is draft picks, capital. That's the money. Oh, yeah. I mean, no, no, no. I'm just saying, that's what hurt owners. Okay, okay, okay. Not money. Right. Come money. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Come on. Right. You find an owner. But he wouldn't go as far as that. No, no, no. But I think you'll find him maybe $500,000, $250,000, whatever the max they can find an owner. I think they're doing that.
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Starting point is 01:04:07 I'm Coach J. Yo, guys, just want to say, Ocho, didn't hear from, you didn't hear from me, but someone said, your head looks like a big toe. Did I say, oh, my bad, toe. Yeah, Ocho, they'd say, man, you be on them toes real hard. She had to keep up the great. You say my head, my head look like a toe. Yeah, they say you be on them toes hard, Ocho. I mean, Ocho Nah, nah
Starting point is 01:04:27 I be on a set of toes The only toes that does matter You know what, Ocho? I'm going to say, you know what? The very first time you experienced this toe Experienced toe was real I'm going to say the first time you experienced toes was real That's going to be between me and you in the fifth
Starting point is 01:04:42 Now you're right That's between me and you in the fifth Yeah, yeah Listen, I like what you're putting down Okay, I appreciate that But we's going to be between me and you and the fence. That's between me and you and the fence. Yeah. Hey, listen. I like what you're putting down. We're going to leave it at that. I like that. Keep being great, but that part
Starting point is 01:04:53 look like... They say we look like failed temptation members. Come on. Come on, J-Man. You are a guy, J. You've been here for a minute. Hey. Everybody, you know what they call it? Everybody talk, man. Real call me Lil' Bill.
Starting point is 01:05:10 You know Lil' Bill? Who Lil' Bill? What he do? A little cartoon. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know Lil' Bill, yeah. Yeah. I look just like Lil' Bill.
Starting point is 01:05:21 I mean, it hurt my feelings until I actually seen Lil' Bill. Me and Lil' Bill look just alike. Yeah, with that little hat on. Lil' Bill got a little hat on just like you Bill. I mean, it hurt my feelings until I actually seen Lil Bill and me and Lil Bill look just alike. Yeah, with that little hat on. Lil Bill got a little hat on just like you got on right there. Lady Ray. Hey, Lady Ray.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Happy New Year, Shannon Ocho. Thanks for entertaining us and telling amazing stories. Shooting my shot to get the Mods front row seat at Vegas show. Okay, okay. Lady Ray said she tried to put up
Starting point is 01:05:45 with it early. Front row seat. That's going to be bad, man. I can picture it now. I can picture it now. We got to come out with smoke, though. Like with smoke. You know when they
Starting point is 01:06:03 introduce us. Matter of fact, you know who we got We got to have Michael Buffer introduce us. We got to have Michael Buffer introduce us. That costs money. I pay for it. Hey, how about this? How about we have like five guys smoking cigars and we walk through the cigar smoke?
Starting point is 01:06:21 Instead of having a smoke machine. Listen, a smoke machine ain't a... machine this is a smoke machine I can get a smoke machine for $20 from my homeboy out the city like I got a dude right now remember how you paid for the palm you paid $10,000 and the lady had to come ship
Starting point is 01:06:37 him man I got a dude right now out the city he got Yorkies he got Pomeranians he got French Bulldogs he got allies, he got Pomeranians, he got French Bulldogs. He got all that. You ain't got a smoke machine. Like, he got all that exotic stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:48 $300. I get you anything for $300. He can get a smoke machine for $20. I know he can get one for $20. I got a whole body can go get it, too. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Just checking. He can get a pressure washer, get whatever you need. Yeah. Oh, yeah. One of them eggs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get that, too, okay. Just checking. You get a pressure washer, you get whatever you need. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Oh, yeah. One of them eggs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get that too. Yeah. Okay, okay. I'm just making a show because I know somebody
Starting point is 01:07:13 that can get anything. Prince. Man, I can't even announce your name. Do you kiss your dogs in the mouth? If you do, what does your
Starting point is 01:07:21 significant other say? Man. Look at that. I see my boys. in the mouth if you do, what does your significant other say? Man, look at that. I see my boys. Taz. Oh, you got a shirt with the boys on now? Taz and Teddy Bear. Okay, I see. I see. Hey, they get along
Starting point is 01:07:38 or they be fine? This one, Taz is about to be 14. Okay, so he chilling. He hates this one and the other one. But they be active all over the place. The little one, I got a big one that weighs about 170 and he weighs
Starting point is 01:07:54 about 7 pounds and they be playing all the time. They be like, it's WWE. But Taz, but baby, I call him baby. He like, he just want to leave him alone. Yeah, bro. I call him baby. He like, he just want, he just want to leave him alone. Yeah, bro. I kiss my dogs. I sure do.
Starting point is 01:08:08 My dogs, my dogs, my mouth, my house, my table, my food, my bed is mine. Mine, mine, mine, mine, mine. Let's let me get, let's get a bit. Let's, let's, let's rewind a little bit. You know, let's, let's touch on some things. So raccoon. Yeah. you're going to eat that.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Pig feet, you're going to eat that. Pig ears too. Pig tails too. Pig tails, pig ears. But you draw the line when it comes to sucking toes or eating ass. I just want to make sure. I want to make sure i'm i'm going to clarify that but kissing the dog you know the dog i understand man's best friend and loyalty and all that good
Starting point is 01:08:52 stuff you gotta help me out yes sir i'm not saying i'm against it but you but i'm saying you off the muscle it's like hey how hey, how you doing? What's your name? You got it. Now, that's why I draw the line. Yeah, yeah. Just like that. Just like that. Now, you can't draw the line.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Listen, the last time I drew lines was in kindergarten. The last time I drew lines was in kindergarten. Can you color in between those lines? I mean, can you draw the line but stay in between them? Color in between them. No. I tried lines? I mean, can you draw the line, but stay in between them? Color in between them. I tried that. I tried that. Life is boring when you
Starting point is 01:09:32 color within the lines. All I'm asking, you got any brothers or sisters? I mean, where'd you go to high school? I mean, you need to know that from her. You ain't even asking her. You don't know nothing about her. Wait, hold on, hold on. What is it?
Starting point is 01:09:47 See, I call that smoke and mirrors. The getting to know stage, I call that smoke and mirrors. So it's like having a donut and all you're doing is filling the cream in the middle. See, not the cream don't even matter. I want the motherfucking donut.
Starting point is 01:10:02 No, no, no. I want the donut. The cream filling is cool. It's cool. It gives you the finishing touch of the donut, but the most important, slow down a little bit there. You know what? Yeah. The donut is the most important part. Getting to know somebody that's the cream filling. They make you go, they make you... Think about it. What do you get to know that's going to all of a sudden make you, oh my God, I know your name, I know your favorite color. You know what, now I am. I am. We are visual. Visual. Yes. Yes. Yes. Use the eyes.
Starting point is 01:10:47 What I get to know about you is not going to change what I've already seen. I want you because of what I see. Listen, what I know about you and what I come to know about you, however God made you, that's just icing on the cake. But I want the cake. I don't really care nothing about the icing. I want the cake. But damn, can we eat some appetizers first? Can I get the salad? I mean, really care nothing about the icing. I want the cake. Can we eat some appetizers
Starting point is 01:11:05 first? Can I get the salad? I mean, you're going straight for dessert. No, man. Come on, man. We in 2024. You still on that same 2023 shit. It's a new year. It's a new year. I need a new you. It's a new year. I need a new you.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I'm just trying to figure out. Sometimes it's okay to slow walk. mean you know I like to run too I like to run I can pick up the pace every once in a while but I'm like hey you know like that you know I'm saying no joke but I mean you coming in hot
Starting point is 01:11:37 sometimes you gotta come in hot that's why I live in Miami it's 90 degrees every day you come in the thing That's why I live in Miami. It's 90 degrees every day. You come to the thing. I like it with Dave. Yeah. You have to be like this sometimes.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Sometimes you got to be assertive. Sometimes you have to be aggressive. Sometimes you got to forget the script and you got to change the tempo. Sometimes you got to forget the script and you got to change the tempo. Sometimes you got to flip the script and change the tempo. Some women like when you drive slow. But I guarantee you, when you change it up and you go fast, oh, my goodness, I like this.
Starting point is 01:12:21 This is different. Ocho, but I'm saying, when you got your driver's license, you had to put that 10 to 2 right yeah you start out 10 to 2 now once you got the driver's license i want that thing like this here yeah i'm leading with it yeah matter of matter of fact i ain't even using my hand i'm using my knee that's what i'm saying that's okay but but you gotta do what i'm saying you gotta do that first though ojo what's your first car? My first car? My first car was a 1973 Chevy Caprice convertible. See? Slow it down, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Slow it down. Nah, man. Listen, it's a new year, Unc, man. We ain't getting no younger. We ain't getting no younger. And you never know. And you ever had a Cracker Jack? Yeah. Remember Cracker Jack?
Starting point is 01:13:02 Yeah. Cracker Jack? Yeah. Remember it was a prize in every box? And you want to open up that motherfucking box real bad because you want to see what you got? That's what it's like. Just think of it as that crackerjack box. Get in that thing.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Get in there. Let's see what the prize is. Sometimes you want to see what the prize is like because the prize ain't worth it. Shit. Ain't no point in eating the rest. I'm just like man yeah i'm just baby i'm trying to get you where you're trying to go you know what i think i'm just gonna lay over here you know i'm gonna miss my flight
Starting point is 01:13:34 you know i'm saying i normally i like being on time yeah i like to eat right in the morning because usually her first flight out in the morning the plane normally has to be at the gate overnight so that way that plane normally is going to get out on time. You know what, Ocho? I'm going to miss my flight on this one. I'm going to catch the next one. I got you. I got you. But listen, even if you catch the next one, this is the thing about it. If I get
Starting point is 01:13:56 on the first flight and you catch the next one, we're going to get to the same destination at some point anyway. I like to feel them out. Yeah. I got you. I don't like taking my time. I like to feel, I like to feel the vibe. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I got you.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I got you. I got you. I got the Ocho. That Joker jumping. That Joker jumping. He ain't going to the kiddie pool. He ain't going to step against Toehead. He jumping straight up.
Starting point is 01:14:15 He high diving. He cliff diving. Olympic size pool. I'm going straight to 18 feet. Off the high dive. Off the high dive. Like Rodney Danger feeling back to school pray for him y'all
Starting point is 01:14:27 I need more than prayer I'm just saying Ocho, I'm just saying Ocho it's okay, well look how long you and Rel been dating? boys, boys four years of him yeah, four, yeah
Starting point is 01:14:43 and you know what, it's been, but it feels like it's only been some months. It feels fresh like that? Yeah. Yeah, it feels fresh. Now, I don't understand why it still feels fresh after, I mean, some people wouldn't even consider four years long, but it still feel fresh, you know, like that little nervous feeling, a little time. Yeah, that should be cool. That should be cool. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Yeah. And it's funny. Sometimes I look at it right. And the first thing I say, well, God damn. What you doing? My glass and everybody, boy, you know, you, you damn. What you doing with my ugly ass? And everybody, boy, you know, you, you know, you outkicked your coverage on this one. Well, who you, who you telling?
Starting point is 01:15:30 Yeah, you did. Who you telling? Well, you, well, she. But let me, let me tell you, you know. I know. They say you got. Yeah. They say you put that baby D on her.
Starting point is 01:15:41 They say you put that baby D on her, that tongue. That's what they call that tongue, that baby D. Yeah. And I ain't. Yeah. And I ain't talking about the ugly ass. Yeah, that put that baby D on that tongue. That's what they call that tongue, that baby D. Yeah, and I ain't talking about the user. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about too. Boy, that thing dropped. They say that thing dropped out your mouth like venom. Say, you got myself.
Starting point is 01:15:56 That's what they call it. They can't have Ocho Venom Johnson. Boy, that's the bad Ocho unfurled that thing on them. Hey. Man, listen, man. Nah, it's a good feeling, though. It's a good feeling. It's a good feeling.
Starting point is 01:16:10 And you know the funny thing about it? It's a good feeling for them, but for you. Oh, man, for me. Oh, you talking about real? Okay, my bad. Okay, you. Hey, I'm trying to stay with you, Ocho. You're trying to stay with you.
Starting point is 01:16:21 But hey, keep me engaged in the class, man. Listen, yeah, I got you. I got you. I don't know what train you on, but the train I'm going to stay with you. But, hey, keep me engaged in the class, man. Listen, yeah, I got you. I got you. I don't know what train you on, but the train I'm on going nowhere. Hey, but listen,
Starting point is 01:16:32 the union, you know, with Real and I, obviously, it's been four years. It still feels fresh, but we do have our issues. Of course.
Starting point is 01:16:40 I mean, come on, man. Oh, yeah. All these people are, oh, it's perfect. We don't do this. We don't stop. But sometimes, yeah, you know, people love acting like everything, man. Oh, yeah. All these people are, oh, it's perfect. We don't do this. We don't stop. But sometimes, yeah, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:45 people love acting and everything, so peaches and cream. Oh, nah, we argue. We argue, you know, we have our issues. We have our moments. We have those, you know what?
Starting point is 01:16:57 I'm going to go ahead and take me a walk. You know what? I'm going to go ahead and take me a smoke break and drive for about 30 minutes to come back. When cooler heads prevail, then we'll hash
Starting point is 01:17:09 this out and we'll communicate. We find a solution to the problem and we go from there. Boom. And we right back. But other than that, man, it's beautiful. It's beautiful. What real say? Uh, real say, ah, baby, you're doing an amazing job multitasking.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Happy new year. I'll be home soon. Make sure you make sure the kids are. Oh, she talked about, she probably said when I had the baby. Yeah, she did.
Starting point is 01:17:33 They don't make you want to head down. Now you don't want no more. You don't want no kids. Sometimes. I'm just asking. Cause I like that. Like I enjoyed that moment. Like she normally she would be asleep.
Starting point is 01:17:46 But my younger daughter had a baby kid. Baby Kennedy here. Baby Kennedy had her. She couldn't get her to go to sleep. I come get her. I'm the baby whisperer now. You know, I'm good with them. I know you're the baby whisperer.
Starting point is 01:17:56 You whisper to a woman and she got a baby. That's exactly how it works. And see, the funny thing is I'm so good with kids. Normally, that's why there's really no hesitation to have them from me. Because you know you're in good hands. You know I'm a great father. So you already know what you get in that area, which is why it's no problem. But anyway, boom, put it right here on my chest.
Starting point is 01:18:19 You see five minutes, she stopped crying. She was out of there. Right to sleep. Right to sleep. Easy. I mean, what if I just like to practice? You know, I ain't going to play the game. I'm just going to practice.
Starting point is 01:18:29 No, no. We ain't going to have a baby. We're just going to practice trying to make one. Nah, you've been doing that 55 years. So, what's the point of practicing if you ain't getting the results? When you practice, when you play for the Broncos, right? Or you play for the Ravens, you go to practice
Starting point is 01:18:46 and hope for scoring on Sunday. So why practice if you're not reproducing? Bro, I got three kids. I'm 55. Listen, Holly Berry was 51 when she had one. What you saying? Ocho.
Starting point is 01:19:02 How that's going to look? They got me. Ocho. And you know what? You know what you can't do? You know odd numbers is not a good thing. If you're going to have kids you need to end on an even number. So you need to have one more.
Starting point is 01:19:15 Yes, sir. Just for the sake of argument, I'm going to be 56. 56, kids, 17. That's 73. Yeah. Right. Man, I'll be paying child support with disability. Why did you have to pay child support?
Starting point is 01:19:32 You a father that doesn't job. You ain't going to have to pay no child support. They're going to be like, Kennedy, your grandfather had to pick you up. That ain't my grandfather. That was my daddy, fool. Nah, they ain't going to say that. But you cool.
Starting point is 01:19:44 You're going to be in a BMW EV. They ain't my grandfather. That's my daddy, fool. Nah, they ain't gonna say that, but you cool. You're gonna be in a BMW EV. They ain't gonna say that. Yeah. You're gonna be the cool pop. With an electric scooter on the back. I don't know, Ojo. You know what, Ojo? You know what I do think? I mean, there have been
Starting point is 01:20:04 times I think about like, you know what? There know what I do think? I mean, there have been times I think about like, you know what? There you go. I have to tell you, an infant will bring you joy and it will keep you young. It had you moving around. It had you smiling.
Starting point is 01:20:13 You never, like you never thought. I'm telling you. Listen to me. We'll sit down and talk about it all off the chat. I don't want to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:20:21 I think you bringing another child in the world with the right one would be a really good look. one would be a really good look. It'd be a really good look. A good look for who? For us. My old lad with a kid. And age ain't nothing but a number. Age ain't nothing but a number.
Starting point is 01:20:34 You experience too. You experience. Oh. J. William Drum said, dating game is different now, Ocho. Dating game ain't no different., dating game is different now, Ocho. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Dating game ain't no different.
Starting point is 01:20:48 The dating game is the same way it was back then. It wasn't no different. No, man. It wasn't no different. Nah. Man, they ain't put all them cards on the table like that. You show your hand. You show your hand on the first one.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Even back then? Yeah, boy, depending on who you is. No, hell nah. Depending on who you are, you show your hand because you ain't got time to play. I got no time to play, Ocho. Hey, I got on who you are, you show your hand because you ain't got time to play. I got no time to play. Hey, I got one for you. Think about this.
Starting point is 01:21:10 What? Think about the old school music from back in the days. Yeah. The problems and the issues that we hear about today, they were singing about it way back in the 70s, in the 60s, in the 80s. Everything is still the same. The only difference now is it's magnified because there's more exposure. So Dayton is still the same
Starting point is 01:21:31 in hindsight. It's just the fact that it's magnified because it's more access because of social media. So I don't really think things are really that much different. Ocho, when you go into a game, you got a big old sheet. You got a big old play, a big sheet.
Starting point is 01:21:48 You saw a big old sheet. Yeah. Ocho, I ain't trying to run all the plays on the first game. No. You know what I'm saying? I got to save. I got to save. I got to save that reverse.
Starting point is 01:21:58 I got to save that flea flicker. Right. And I got to save that tackle eligible. Right. For a rainy day. You know what I'm saying? You got to do that. I like where you're going. I got to save that one. I for a rainy day i like you know what i'm saying you gotta be in that i like where you're going i like i'll say that one i like you're going matter of fact you know what dudes dudes these days now i'm not in this i'm not in this they make it hard they make
Starting point is 01:22:17 it hard yeah that's the real but you know they on another level yeah they off rip you're buying houses they buying cars. Yeah, yeah. They paying tuition. They don't draw the price. The price sky high. They ain't doing it all. They ain't even playing off rip.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Yeah, yeah. Because it gets you access right now. You know what? I don't feel like playing this game. Let me show you what I can do. Let me show you what I can do for you and change and make your life easy. But then the con to that is, I mean,
Starting point is 01:22:49 you... Where does she go? If that doesn't work out with her and him, where does she go? You continue chasing after the same thing because once you experience that lifestyle or actions like that, you ain't going backwards. You ain't going backwards.
Starting point is 01:23:05 You ain't going backwards. Ain't no turning back. Ain't no turning back. You ain't going backwards. Ain't no turning back. You ain't going backwards. Nope. Nope. It is what it is. Ain't no turning back. It ain't no turning back. You're right. It's a dangerous game
Starting point is 01:23:15 up there at the top like that now because you got you got a small select few that are able to pull that type of maneuvering off
Starting point is 01:23:24 and you got a whole heap of women that's fine, that is looking for just that. So you got the big fish all in the same pond dealing with multiple women because they can move and do for them like that.
Starting point is 01:23:40 I done got old, so I can't do too much. I don't, yeah, I don't, yeah. Hey, listen. But you already know, you know, you know. And the plus on Chucky and Ochoa Hop. I ain't't do too much. Oh, yeah. Hey, listen. But you already know. And it plus on your house. I ain't spending no money now. You know that.
Starting point is 01:23:52 With two replaced hips, I can't be chasing no kids now. Who? Me. You told me your hips was good. They are good. That's why I said you need a child to get a hip some work. You chasing two, three-year-old on the park that's what you need oh he'll strong see all you boys quite your heel strong told you you said you could squat you say you can start i got titanium and that liquid blue
Starting point is 01:24:15 hey hey bad with hurricane sand touchdown yeah bad boy I like it well listen if it's a hurricane you know it come after the hurricane right it's always sunshine and guess what the sunshine would be in this case for context an infant
Starting point is 01:24:39 no you could name the baby no baby shade no Ali Schwartz says No. You could name the baby Baby Shay. No. Allie Schwartz says, my dad passed away two years ago at 78. I'm 22 years old today. I'm grateful for him
Starting point is 01:24:56 having me later in life. He passed a lot of wisdom on to me. Allie yeah he that'll be the same age I am cause he 50 oh man Allie I don't know Allie I don't Ocho I ain't gonna be I don't know I don't know Ocho I mean I think about it I ain't gonna lie Ocho I ain't gonna be
Starting point is 01:25:25 I don't know I don't know Ocho I mean I think about I ain't gonna lie Ocho I do I do I honestly do I do have thoughts about it
Starting point is 01:25:31 The fact that you even Thinking about it Lets me know All you need is a little push That's it All you need is a little push All you need is a little Encouraging
Starting point is 01:25:40 From the chat We got 25,000 people in here Chat Don't y'all be Don't y'all be following up Ocho with this foolishness. Chat, it would behoove y'all to convince Unk, you know, a child would be a good look,
Starting point is 01:25:55 especially what we're trying to do and where we're going as far as it would just be a great success story and another... What's the word I'm looking for? I can't even think of what to say
Starting point is 01:26:12 or how to word it the right way. I think it would just be a good look though. You know what? Put it to the chat. Do y'all think I should... Yeah. I said no. Ocho said yes.
Starting point is 01:26:27 Have a poll. And I guarantee the chat agrees with me. Faith donated and said, hey Ocho and Shannon, happy new year. Great t-shirt with nightcap hips, million sub. You should get Ocho a puppy. What breed would you pick for him?
Starting point is 01:26:43 No, no, no, no, no, no. I ain't doing no dog because I ain't doing no dog because that's an added expense. No. Also, shout out to the Mod Squad, King, CJ, and La'Ash. More blessings on the way. Marshawn Hunter, one of our Mods, says Happy New Year, fellas. I agree with Lainey.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Flowers, Mods, to Vegas. Put us up in the front row. We be working hard promoting the podcast. Chez Balaportier, 85 cigars. Put us up in the front row. We be working hard promoting the podcast. 85 cigars. Do something before two something. We definitely try. We definitely try. We're trying to put something together. We're going to have something
Starting point is 01:27:15 in store. We don't just know. We don't know what it is yet. Leave it to Ocho. Hell, he have y'all in the game trying to catch a pass or make a tackle or something. Upgrade King
Starting point is 01:27:32 donated and said, Happy New Year, Nightcap fan. Worldwide, Ocho should have a segment discussing cigars. One question. How do you stop 85? You can't. Put hands on him. You can't. Put hands on him. You can't put hands on him you can't put hands on him you can't
Starting point is 01:27:48 man it's New Year's man happy New Year people happy New Year's I love y'all if you need anything in 2024 you know how to reach me if you need anything
Starting point is 01:28:01 in 2024 it's 25,000 people in here and I'm letting you know I'm here for you if you need anything in 2024, it's 25,000 people in here and I'm letting you know I'm here for you. If you need anything in 2024, you know how to reach me. Now, I might not say yes. I might not say yes,
Starting point is 01:28:14 but that's besides the fact. The fact that I'm here for you, that lets you know everything you need to know. Please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you subscribe to like button make sure you hit that subscribe button uh please make sure you subscribe to the nightcap nightcast podcast feed you could also get it through the club shea shea feed hell go through both of them we greatly appreciate it um if you're listening
Starting point is 01:28:35 through my club shea shea feed thank you but you can also get the link through the club uh through the nightcap feed we've also pinned shea by Laporte at the top of the chat. A little late for New Year's, but guess what? You still got President's Day, St. Patrick's Day, whatever holiday that you want to celebrate with you and that's someone special. Make sure you get a ball
Starting point is 01:28:55 and support your favorite unk. A little recap. Vikings, Sunday night game, 33-10 over Minnesota. The Ravens dropped a hammer down on the dolphins 56 19 lamar solidified his mvp i think it might be another unanimous after that showing that he had today oh yeah eagles lose to the cardinals let the cowboys have the inside track to the nfc east crown it also gave the 49ers the number one seed overall after they beat Washington 27-10. David
Starting point is 01:29:27 Tepper, the owner of the Carolina Panthers, had an incident. There's a video surface of allegedly him throwing a drink at a Jacksonville Jaguars fan. I don't know if the drink landed on him, and that's what the video says, so you can pull it up and deduce and draw your own conclusions. The Bears clinched the number one pick with the Carolina Panthers losing today. So they face a decision. Justin Fields had some moments, and he's had those type moments
Starting point is 01:29:55 throughout his career. Do they keep him, build around him, trade that number one draft pick, get draft capital, or do they keep it the polls should have another kid 51 said yes 49 said no hey i told you i told you i told i told you i told you they would want i'm man listen we'll talk about in depth a little bit a little bit more because obviously here on the chat i can really get into it. I don't think people understand how good that would be for you. It would be a great look.
Starting point is 01:30:28 You're already a superior father. And adding another addition to the three that you already have, they will love that. I would love that. And if you need help, not that you would need help because you are experienced,
Starting point is 01:30:40 but as the baby whisperer that I am. I don't need no help. Oh, that one thing on channel D don't help. Right I don't need no help. Oh, that's what they all said. I don't need no help. Oh, no. Oh, no. Right. I'll talk about... Oh, yeah. I'll talk about once the baby here...
Starting point is 01:30:55 The plumbing... Oh, okay. I just thought you said the plumbing functioning. The plumbing functioning now. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Steve McDuffie, if you were starting an NFL franchise, what current quarterback would you start your team with? And you can't say Mahomes. C.J. Stroud. I'm just I'm just I'm throwing I'm throwing the first name I did come to mind. Obviously, there are other there are a plethora of quarterbacks that you can start a franchise with but i'm just throwing cj shroud name out
Starting point is 01:31:30 there because of what he's been able to accomplish in such a short amount of time being in the nfl and turning that franchise around that is the true definition of a franchise quarterback to go into a situation where it was extremely bad last year obviously demico ryan's obviously having something to do with that as well. But when you have a quarterback, what you see in Houston is what happens when you get an elite franchise quarterback, regardless of how long he's been in the league. Well, based on the way he's played the last six, seven weeks,
Starting point is 01:32:04 you'd probably be foolish not to say Lamar if you couldn't take Mahomes. I mean, he's shown look, he has the highest completion percentage of throwing the ball outside of the pocket, but if you look at the plays that he made today, they were all in the pocket. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:19 Miami made a conscious effort to keep him in the pocket. He stood there. Hit Zay Flowers down the rail. Hit the running back. Got mashed up on a linebacker heel. Everything he threw from the pocket. Yeah. And he's figured it out.
Starting point is 01:32:35 He's figured it out. They're afraid of my legs. They're going to muddle rush. They don't want to see me jump out of lane. It's okay. I'm going to stand right here and pick you apart. Look, I don't want to see me jump out of lane. It's okay. I'm going to stand right here and pick you apart. Look, I don't know. You can't find fault with him now.
Starting point is 01:32:50 As long as he's taking care of the football, and he's taking care of the football over the last five or six weeks. That's what got him in trouble was the turnovers. You're throwing interception going into the end zone. You take points off the board. You got took. You might as well say zone. You take points off the board. You got Tuck. You might as well say that. Well, we got automatic three.
Starting point is 01:33:07 From 15 in, if you got Justin Tucker as your kicker, you got three. Yeah. Now he's taking care of the football? Every time. Yeah, he's been, man. Whew. While he donated, Happy New Year. Love y'all.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Shout out to Puka Nakua. Rams are going to be a dangerous team in the playoffs. Puka had another monster day, Ocho. Yeah. You know what Puka eat? You know what Puka eat? What do you eat? McDonald's. I mean, me and Puka go back and forth on Twitter
Starting point is 01:33:38 about McDonald's about once a week. Having a phenomenal, he having a phenomenal season. Phen season phenomenal season as a rookie i don't know if it's puka nakua or i don't know if it's sean uh sean mcveigh it's one of them or just that relationship that maturation in general the real deal he's uh how many yards of puka he might have an outside chance to get about 1600 i know he's over 1400 easily at one point he had five for a buck he had five for a buck 18 daniel robinson had six for 92 higby had six for uh 62 and cooper cup had four
Starting point is 01:34:17 for 27 but he had a touchdown puga nukua has 1445 what's the record for a rookie Chase right didn't Chase break I think Jefferson had the record and the thing is he would have been rookie of the year had it not been for CJ
Starting point is 01:34:39 Stroud yeah most definitely because CJ is playing so great and you know he's playing unbelievable. Yeah. Even with the two missed games, he's probably still going to win Rookie of the Year. Yes. Because you remember when Justin Jefferson had his outstanding year, Justin Herbert won it because he was a quarterback.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Quarterback, yeah. Not because he was a quarterback, but he did play well. I mean, he got through for over 4,000 yards as a rookie, threw for over 30 touchdowns. So I'm not going to say just because he was a quarterback. He had an outstanding year. But quarterback having an outstanding year and a wide receiver having an outstanding year.
Starting point is 01:35:20 So he's Bill gorman in 1963 in 1960 the record is 1473 he's got 1445 he don't hit that next week yeah well you got to hit it next week the last game of the season but but for a rookie to come in and get fit think about all the great rookies that's come in. Jefferson and Chase and Randy Moss, Julio, all those guys. I mean, think about the receivers. Some good ones. And Puka Nakua, Landfish Gerald, Calvin Johns Megatron, and Puka Nakua. About to go over 1,500 yards in a rookie season.
Starting point is 01:36:07 That's crazy. Crazy work. Steve Buford, 70, donated. Hey, Unc, how funny was that young man that impersonated you in Baltimore? Where is he now? Tim. Tim Johnson is his name. We keep up.
Starting point is 01:36:22 I don't know where he is now. I think he might be back in Ohio. He went to Youngstown State when he left the Ravens, if I'm not mistaken. He went to the Raiders. But I saw him last in 2022. Was it 22? No, it might have been 23. I went back to Baltimore, and and we had the documentary and he was
Starting point is 01:36:46 there i don't but i don't know what tim is right now but yeah it was funny because to my ear it sounded like me was talking and it just goes to show you you don't know who's watching you because all the things that i had been saying in training camp all the mannerisms oh so you know i'm just going about my business, you know, just being me. Right. And he picked up everything. So it was it was great. And that was the very first hard knocks. August V3 are on. Happy New Year.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Uncle Ocho still got five minutes until midnight here. Have you ever considered writing a book about your life? Oh, yes. I've been approached on several occasions about writing a book. But you know what? I think sometimes, like my sister always tells me, I couldn't even think about writing a book until my sister. As long as my sister was here, she ain't going to have that.
Starting point is 01:37:34 So when they come to me and say, yeah, thank you, I appreciate it, had sat down with a couple of publishing companies and even a couple of authors, I'm like, nah. Ocho, some things you just take to your grave. Right, right, right, right. You take to your grave. Or you get some of the
Starting point is 01:37:54 stories that would have been in the book on Nightcap. So you do get some bookish stories, but and I know people are thinking now, if this man telling this, what does he have that he needs to take to his grave? Matter of fact, you should start sharing some of the ones that you take into your grave with us. Oh, no. Oh, no. Because we take them to the grave.
Starting point is 01:38:13 We're going to be going to take that. We're going to take the story to the grave with us. Might as well share with us. We family. The big the big ones. You guys fuel my ride to and from work every day two hours each way just a quick question two hours will you yeah two hours each way i hope they're playing your hope they're playing your pretty pity uh uh will you ever touch on what happened at fs1 you mentioned steven they warned you about what was happening no you know what i thank think if it's one, forgive me the opportunity for me. I wish those guys the best. Obviously, Mike and I, I know Mike a he got into this business, I was one of the first people, not the first, but I was one of the people that he reached out to. I know Key a little bit, but I know the other two guys well.
Starting point is 01:39:11 I would skip the best, but there ain't no sense in rehashing. They know what happened. I know what happened. I can hold my head up high. I'm happy that I was like a cat. I landed on my feet. Thanks to a lot of prayer and Stephen,
Starting point is 01:39:28 they believe it in me and the people at ESPN from Dave Roberts to Jimmy Pataro, Bob Iger, Burke Magnus. They believed in me and put it like this.
Starting point is 01:39:39 I'll just say this. All the noise that was were wereberating. They didn't pay it any attention so i thank you guys for coming along with me um y'all still support club shea shea you support nightcap you support me when i show up on first take with steven a and even when i'm in his chair so i really appreciate you guys because you make it fun. You make it worthwhile. Keith Smith says, I love the show, Uncle Nocho. Can you give a shout out to my wife
Starting point is 01:40:09 Larika Smith and to my daughters, Promising Kalaya Smith. Larika and the two daughters, Promising Kalaya. Shout out. Shout out. What they do, family? What they do, gang. What they do, gang.
Starting point is 01:40:27 What up, twin? I don't know. I mean, it's always interesting. Like, when you see names, like, how do you come up with a name? How do you come up with a name? I mean, you're going to have to come up with one in nine months. So, I mean, think about it. Think of something you like.
Starting point is 01:40:45 Something you've always liked. You know, it just comes to you. Like, my daughter's nickname is French Fry. Right. Because I like French Fry. And she look like a French Fry. Oh, you know, hey, I might want to have one of the others slow cooking right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:01 I might want to have one of the, you know, we put everything, we cook at 350. You know, black people, you put anything in there, put it at 350 and let it go yeah yeah yeah yeah so we put that thing it might be one in the oven right now it might be i like that 75 though i want to i don't want i don't want to get you know i want to get done too quick okay okay but who the who the who the who the who the mammy i just a pappy anthony sharp says happy new year who do you guys have a win in the college football playoffs man shit why man what man you see what happened to florida state i did they had all those opt-outs man you know they have first of all they lost their quarterback and then they're like all their top a lot of their like their top guys yeah yeah so going to the nfl if the quarterback was there and all the guys didn't opt out so the game would have been
Starting point is 01:41:55 different i still think georgia wins i don't think they win 63-3 yeah i think they still win by 21 georgia loaded yeah they load they loaded that that Georgia loaded. They loaded. That was bad. That was bad. Think about it. They beat TCU last year in the National Championship game 65-7. And then they followed this up with a 63-3 and they called the dogs off.
Starting point is 01:42:18 Know what that means? Lamar said, don't judge, but if a dog is an added expense, isn't a child an added expense? You right, Lamar. a dog is an added expense isn't a child an added expense you right Lamar yeah a bigger added expense Lamar Lamar stop
Starting point is 01:42:33 no appreciate that hey Lamar a child is not an added expense it's an investment thank you uh Ivan Laborson Uncle Don't, a big fan of the show. Legs open like a quarter to three is my favorite saying question. What was the hardest transition to get used to after football?
Starting point is 01:42:58 That's a good one. I mean, my transition was pretty much easy. I was at peace. My transition was a little different than, than most. Um, but I, I had played long enough. I was, I was content. I was ready for that transition. Uh, I had no idea what I, what I wanted to do. Um, obviously I was passionate about football and outside of football, only other two things that I was passionate about was gaming. Obviously there's a true passion of mine and cigars. So at that point I knew I was going to go into the cigar business and take it
Starting point is 01:43:32 serious. Uh, would it be in a passion of mine? And outside of that, you know, I was just going to sail into the sunset. I, I had obviously done extremely, extremely well with taking care of my chickens, my chickens being my finances, the investments I had made. So I was I was set. And then other opportunities started to present themselves and, you know, TV stuff and obviously being on being on here with you and and and other other small gigs that that have that have, that have helped me, um, rekindle that, that flame of, of exposure, uh, and being able to do what I love, love most, obviously that is talking football and, and being able to share my life, my, my, my life experiences. So, uh,
Starting point is 01:44:19 it's, it's been a long road for me. It's been a, long journey and uh and i'm just back i'm just just back climbing you know that mountain you know uh where i once fell from so it's good i'm happy i'm in a good place in good space and that transition it was it was it was it was tough at first it was tough but god damn it we churning now. Yeah, for me, the transition was very easy. I was going to come back and play. I had my mind made up. I was going to play 15 years
Starting point is 01:44:53 and after 15 years, I was going to call it a career. CBS reached out and asked would I be interested in doing a pregame show. I went, met with the execs and had a conversation with them and you know they called me back uh my agent called me back like a day later and says if you want the job he's yours
Starting point is 01:45:13 so and for me that was because i was like if i if i go back and play one more year what's the chance that this job is going to be available in another year? So that's how I had to look at it, Ocho. I couldn't say, well, you know what? Hey, I want to play in this job. They ain't holding no job for no tight ends. Now, they don't hold a job for a quarterback.
Starting point is 01:45:37 They ain't holding no job for no tight end. And then you have to understand, Ocho, and then for the most part, that's a very short life, unless you're one of these, you know, for the most part part they're looking for the freshest face the newest guy to come out if he's a quarterback and he's a hot commodity they're looking to move on anyway so I got 10 years and so my transition was fairly easy uh you know I'm a loner I don't need a whole lot of people around I'm not really around a whole bunch of people anyway. So the only thing that I missed was like. Practice in the locker room, the plane ride, the bus ride, you know, stretching, you know, stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:46:13 That's what I miss talking and doing like what we do right now. So you could imagine Ocho and I having a conversation. You guys are in. Can you imagine what what I was like in a locker room? Boy, I was I was nothing but fun that that and so nothing and that's what you know a lot of my friends like man my their friends and family asked them say man what was he like what do you like on that show times 10 but that but that was it that was you know That was, you know, that's what, that's what you miss. I mean, I didn't miss the games.
Starting point is 01:46:46 I mean, the money, obviously, you know, but no, I was making, I was making good money at CBS. And so I had taken care of my money.
Starting point is 01:46:52 My kids were going to be situated with straight. Everything was taken care of. I'd already set aside them going to college and already set money aside that this is what I was going to be. I have to pay. Now I got to, you know, now I'm not in the NFL. I got to, you know, now I'm not in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:47:05 I got to, you know, I got to pay for, you know, medical and health benefits. So, but it was, it was cool, man. It was, it was great. And I have a look back with the exception of the two years between CBS and Fox. I've been working since 2004. So we coming up on 21 years with the exception of two years that I missed.
Starting point is 01:47:28 So 19 years I've had a job in television. So Calvin Dickerson said, happy new year, Uncle Ocho. What should the NFL do about the refs who blew the call for the Lions? Well, if Adam Schefter reporting is to be true, they got downgraded and there's a great chance they're going to miss the playoffs. Remember I told you Ocho, that's probably really the only way you can punish him is that you missed the playoffs. You can't mess up a game like that.
Starting point is 01:47:53 You can't mess up a game like that, especially with playoff implications on hand. Obviously with Detroit supposedly supposed to be winning that game obviously if the call has landed correctly you can't mess up a game like that, man.'s ridiculous i i feel i feel bad i feel really bad yeah so yeah and it looks like you see there's a video floating around that that seems like uh decker uh the tackle that reported seemed like he mouthed something to brad allen and brad allen said
Starting point is 01:48:21 he got it yeah and then you hear Dan Campbell says, I told him before the game. A prime example, Matt LaFleur told the official before the game that if we win the toss, we're going to defer. Right.
Starting point is 01:48:40 And I think they won the toss. Carolina won the toss. Carolina won the toss, and what you call it, said, nah, we want to defer. And the referee said, nah, nah, nah, you want to receive the ball. Right.
Starting point is 01:48:53 Because had he not, Carolina would have got the ball to start the game and to start the second half. So normally, and that's what they do, Sean Payton went to the officials and said, hey, onside kick what they do. Sean Payton went to the officials today. Onside kick. Be alert.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Right. So that's normally what the coaches do. So, yeah, it's not a good look. We really won't know what's going, what really happened, because he's going to say no. They didn't report. He said 70 reported. 70 said i didn't say anything decker said i reported what happened was they ran both guys so dallas doesn't know so it's
Starting point is 01:49:33 supposed to be they're confused right but it looks like the only person that got confused not only did dallas get confused the ref got confused also so it ended up being a situation where possibly cost them a game that's great uh green cuban said happy new year uncle ocho and the team got a question what cars would you or do you have in your collection you know i got that bf i got a bmw, uh, I got a range and, uh, I got that, uh,
Starting point is 01:50:08 the black ghost. I got the, the Dodge that, uh, that challenger, uh, the last. So that's it.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Simple. But I look, you know, the EV, EV, I'd be that EV or run. Yeah. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:50:21 man. Thank real nice. I mean, well, I ain't really got no, I used to have, but. What you used to have? What you have? I know, I remember you had them Chevys.
Starting point is 01:50:32 Yeah. Them Chevys, they had a 71, 72, 73. During that time, obviously, I remember I had a Hummer. When Hummer first came out. Yeah. Had a Rolls, obviously, Rolls Royce. Had a Phantom during that time obviously uh i remember i had a hummer when hummer first came out yeah had a road road obviously rose royce had a phantom during that time um dodge ram something about dodge ram i don't know why i had a dodge ram but i had a dodge ram uh ferrari obviously had a lamborghini
Starting point is 01:50:58 but i thought you was cheap oh yeah all this was all this was uh with tv money that none of this had to do with with uh what i was making on the field this is all the stuff your money that you spent right right but it was extra for me it was extra no and um you know i'm glad i ain't got no tv money 2009 was it 2009 or 2010 i leased a bugatti for a year which was was, I always wanted, I wanted that experience of what it was like to own a supercar. That, that was cool. I remember one of the fines I got, one of the fines I got, uh, during, during the preseason, I tweeted in the middle of a game on the sideline and the NFL fined me 25 grand. And that 25 grand really affected one of my Bugatti payments, you know, for that month.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Um, I never forget that. And I tweeted, I tweeted it out. I'm sure the tweet is still up there. We can probably go to that for reference. Um, and that's it. And then when I, when I probably, when I got to, I got rid of everything at one point, I had, I had everything for maybe two years. Maybe for two years, I got rid of everything.
Starting point is 01:52:05 And obviously I got my smart car in 2006, which was my main car. And every time I hit 10,000 miles, I get a new smart car. So, I'm on my fifth smart car now. That's still my main car I drive. Boy, you drive that thing about seven years before you get 10,000 miles in that little ass car. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You can't go for 43 miles an hour. Come on, don't do me like that.
Starting point is 01:52:26 Don't do me like that. That's a good quality car. I get 55 miles at the gallon. I can park anywhere. It's good on gas. Good on the freeway. It's just a good car in general. Man, I wouldn't take that car on a freeway.
Starting point is 01:52:39 I know you wouldn't. They don't respect it here in the States, but it's very sought after in Europe obviously because the roads are much smaller. You're in the States. No, but it's good for me because it's efficient. It's cost efficient. It cost me $13 to fill up. $13 to fill up, I get 55 miles to the gallon. Do you know what that's like? And I have that. I still have my Smart. That's my
Starting point is 01:52:59 main car and I have a Suburban. That's it. Shirel fancy ass. William, thank you for ordering a bottle of Laporte. I really appreciate that. Appreciate That's it. Shirell fancy ass. William, thank you for ordering a bottle of Laporte. I really appreciate that. Appreciate that, William. Shirell fancy ass with the goddamn Maybach and Mercedes and now she want to
Starting point is 01:53:14 the Bentley GT something new. And you going to get it? Who going to get it? You. No, I ain't spending the money she finna get it. Hey, Rel, you want me to tell you what we're paying? Don't do that. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:53:31 Don't do that. Rel, he got it, Rel. He got it. Don't let him fool you, Rel. I ain't got it. I ain't got it. I know one thing I told you for my birthday, I'm finna act a fool, though. What you going to get? What you going to get'm gonna tell the chair what you about to get. I'm up
Starting point is 01:53:49 I'm gonna let me let me show you something real quick. Hold on. Watch this. Just so you know, I ain't playing I went I went to the poem watch this. Hold on. Hold on. Okay What are you going to get ain't no telly you're probably going to come back with some electric bicycle cheap ass what we got happy new year oh black president said oh i used to love your take on politics when you were fs1 do you think murdoch didn't like your takes on certain issues nah uh they never told me what i could. I will say I was surprised that
Starting point is 01:54:46 they let me go where I wanted to go. They never tell me I couldn't say this or I had to say that. So kudos to them. No, because if you remember What? You see what he got? Hey.
Starting point is 01:55:04 My birthday, right? Yeah, you been i'm going yeah i'm going to pay cash cash money i'm going to pay cash for it um listen you know i don't i don't spend no money i don't know i don't spend no money now but i'm gonna treat myself i got me back let me see here i can i can only grab a little bit. It's about 200, I think about maybe 200, 300,000. Yeah. I'm finna act a fool. I'm finna act a fool.
Starting point is 01:55:33 I'm finna be 56. I'm finna act a plump fool. Hold on. Let me put this back before she come back. She's probably watching you in the chat. I don't know what don't know he got just a little bit i don't know what he gonna buy he must be trying to plan on buying an island or an airplane hey hey my birthday coming up i'm feeling good too i'm finna be 56 i'm finna i'm finna treat myself what you what you think what you What you think, what you think Real,
Starting point is 01:56:06 what you think Real gonna get you? Huh? What you think Real gonna get you? Man, she gonna try to outdo me. I don't like that. She gonna try to outdo you on your own birthday? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:15 She gonna try to outdo me. She gonna try to stunt. I mean, man, we know. I mean, I understand she's the breadwinner right now. Obviously, I appreciate everything that she does. But the fact that I'm so simple, I'm so simple and she goes outside of the parameters in
Starting point is 01:56:32 what I like and doing things that are extreme, which is cool, which is cool, but this would be the first time for my birthday. I treat myself and do something outside the box and outside the norm in which I normally do. So I went and took $500,000 out and I'm going to enjoy myself. I'm going to treat myself. You spent the whole $500,000? Yeah, I took it out. I took it out.
Starting point is 01:56:58 I want to know what it feel like. I could use... Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Make sure. I could use. Hold on. Hold on. I could. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Make sure I could use. Right. Hold on. I could use that.
Starting point is 01:57:09 Right. Yeah. I could use that. But I want to know. You're a black heart. Yeah. I'm going to have a call. But I got it.
Starting point is 01:57:17 What a big wig. I might call him. Have to revoke your say. I don't do that. I want to. I want to know it. If I've been working hard, man. I've been working hard. Yeah, you have.
Starting point is 01:57:26 Yeah, you have. Absolutely. Because of you and because of some other blessings, because of Doug, Ryan, I appreciate y'all. You know, they put me in a position to be able to treat myself in a way I never had before, even though I had the means to do it. And I think for my birthday this year, for the first time, I'm going to treat myself. And I'm excited. I'm excited. And I want to do it the way the rappers do it. I want to know what it feels like to go somewhere and be carrying cash and pay for cash and be like, you know what? I got this and I did it the right way.
Starting point is 01:57:56 I got this the right way. And just walk out of there with a smile on my face. That must be nice. I ain't going to get nothing that cost that right there. Huh? Yep. You just got a BMW EV. What you talking about? Nice, too. The M70. Top of the line.
Starting point is 01:58:13 How much that cost? I'm just asking. I don't know. I don't know about number. $20,000? M70. I know. I was like, got me a little screen in the back.
Starting point is 01:58:31 I'm going to have Jordan drive me around. Wait, you didn't tell me how much it cost. I just see that you gave me the peace sign. Yeah. It cost 200? Damn. That,
Starting point is 01:58:44 that, that, do it talk like the Jessessens it do for real hey you know what i want for my birthday what i want a alexa you ever you ever had alexa nah they hold too much information listen i went to vegas right for For F1? They had Alexa in my room. I said, Alexa, who is Chad Johnson? Man, Alexa knew everything about me. I ain't got no Alexa.
Starting point is 01:59:14 I got a Keisha in my room. And she be talking to you. She be like, come on over here, daddy. No, man. Nah, Ocho, they be holding up too much information, man. Nah, they be here to listen to your conversation. For real? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:44 I mean, what if you ain't doing nothing wrong? I don't do nothing wrong. I just some reason i really enjoyed i ain't know nothing about alexa nigga i'm i'm with real i say baby look listen i say alexa play beethoven whatever it is beethoven come right on alexa play frank sinatra uh fly me to the moon it play it yeah man i ain't know nothing about no election until i went to vegas for f1 dude i was so excited like baby how much these shits cost she like 50 50 yeah boy this is state-of-the-art shit and it only costs 50 like yeah you that's that's how you know I don't get out the house much because she's sitting here laughing. Like how you don't know about Alexa.
Starting point is 02:00:29 I'm supposed to know about Alexa. I don't go nowhere. If it ain't got nothing to do with video games, how am I know if it ain't got nothing to do with soccer or football, the hell I'm gonna know about goddamn Alexa. I noticed people in the chat telling me what I like. It's amazing. People tell me what I like and have
Starting point is 02:00:46 never seen me with anybody. Oh, I've seen you with somebody. I've seen you with somebody. And you will see me again. Yeah, I've seen you with somebody. I'm going to just give you the initials. Can I give you the initials? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:02 N-M Letter N N.M. Letter N. M. Boy, the real deal. Holy feel. Oh, man. Hey, boy, listen. Well, between you and me, let me take my glasses off.
Starting point is 02:01:26 And a soldier salute. A soldier salute. The real deal. But we're going to go ahead and get up off of that, boy. Yeah. But I love it, man. People have never seen me. Right.
Starting point is 02:01:43 But you see, that's how, you know, when people hear a lie, once you hear it so much, you believe it to be true. So when people say something, when they repeat something over and over and repetitions of a lie doesn't make it true. I just don't have the time. I just don't have the time to chase it down. Right. Because my thing is, you know, hey, why should I chase a lie? What do I prove? Okay. I proved that I dated know, hey, why should I chase a lie? What do I prove? Okay, I proved that I dated X, Y, and Z.
Starting point is 02:02:11 What do you got out of that? Right. You just want to know my business. That's what that is. Y'all want to know my business. Yeah. So, but... yeah so but uh uh calvin says oh cho which would you rather be in the nfl uh nfl owner or coach which one is more stressful oh coach he's the only one that can get fired
Starting point is 02:02:39 well you want to you want to be the coach instead no i would rather be the owner oh the coach is more you know he says which is more stressful uh the the coach is more stressful the owner ain't going nowhere yeah he's the only one he can't lose his job yeah yeah and he never take a loss tell me the owner that purchased the club and lost money when he sold it never i mean daniel snyder he brought it he bought it uh from jack cook he bought the washington team for 800 million and 99 he just sold it for six and a half billion crazy work so in 24 years sixfold it's crazy seven Yeah. So, nah, nah, I'd rather be an
Starting point is 02:03:27 owner. Elijah Grease, the Uncle Nocho, can you give my Aunt Bridget a shout out? She's a cancer survivor. Bridget, congratulations on beating that deadly, ugly, awful disease. Hopefully you remain in remission and you have a long, continuous, healthy
Starting point is 02:03:43 life. Appreciate it, Elijah. All right, Bridget. Prayers. Congrats. Prayers to you, Miss. I'm Bridget. Peace, peace. Uncle Ocho love watching the show. Y'all are a dynamic duo. What's
Starting point is 02:03:57 some advice you have for a young man as elders on how to be the best one can be? Peace and blessing. The best one can be peace and blessings. Go ahead. I mean, be the best one can be peace and blessing the best one can be pleasing blessings go ahead i mean being the best you could be i mean obviously you you got you got to be find something you're passionate about first find something you're passionate about and you lock in on it lock in on. And try to achieve greatness in that area. Even if you fall short.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Even if you fall short, you're going to succeed at whatever it is that you like. I mean, when it comes to being the best at what you do, it has to be something that you enjoy and something that you like. Yeah. That's the only thing I can think of. It's hard to give me advice on how you can be great. But you got to figure out what it is that you like. Figure out what your niche is. What's your niche?
Starting point is 02:04:52 What are you good at? What are you great at? For me, yeah, I like being. I'll be honest. I like being good at a lot of things. But I think it's better to be good at being a person. Sometimes people get caught up in being good at a job or task, but be awful human beings. I believe you can't, you're not going to be everybody's
Starting point is 02:05:26 friend, especially when you try to run a business. Um, you have to make tough decisions. Sometimes you're going to have to let some people go. You're going to have to reassign some people. And that's never fun, especially people that you brought on in the first place or you've established a relationship with. But like you say, I'm a firm believer that if you, if money will come, if you enjoy what you're doing, you won't consider it work and you'll look up and you've accumulated a lot of what you didn't think you could.
Starting point is 02:06:00 And so for me, I get up, I go to bed, I say my prayer, I get up and try to be a better person today than I was yesterday. I try to treat people like I would want to be treated. I realize everybody can't be a CEO, but your job title has nothing, no bearing on the way I treat you. Absolutely nothing. Oh, Joe, I tell you, you know what? I got up this morning and I went and got some breakfast. A guy was at the table and he was talking to himself.
Starting point is 02:06:34 Talking to himself. I'm ordering the lady. I always go in there. She always takes my order. He pointed. He's like, hey, you, I know you. He smiled. I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, he pointed, he's like, hey, you, you, I know you. And he smiled. And I'm thinking to myself, I was like, bro, it did my heart good.
Starting point is 02:06:54 Because obviously, you know, he's not, he wasn't in the best conditions. But he's like, you, you, I know you. And I nodded, I smiled and I nodded at it. And, uh, and he, he went back to doing what he was doing,
Starting point is 02:07:14 but it, but, uh, I think that's, and I think that came from my grandmother's that, you know, you treat everybody because you never know. Oh,
Starting point is 02:07:24 Joe, you never know. I mean, you're up here here today you can be down here tomorrow yeah man the person that you're up here and the person down here and all of a sudden the roles switch reverse because i've always tried i've always tried to uh you know divorce my ego and to see myself as someone else and that's what you have to do. That's what empathy allows you to do. It will allow you to divorce your ego and to see yourself as someone else. Fortunate,
Starting point is 02:07:55 not as fortunate, down on their luck, family having problems. But a lot of people don't think they're too prideful and don't think things can happen to them. And so I've always always my grandmother always was when she was very very big on that of treating people well regardless of their situation because you don't know you know she's like she used to always tell me one of her favorites say boy you'll never know who you'll ask to hand you your last drink of water and so that resonated with me like okay it don't take anything
Starting point is 02:08:26 to treat somebody nice. Hey, how you doing? Be courteous, be respectful because I would want that and you never know. But also, Ocho, I see for me, I see my grandmother, my great-grandmother, my mother because I got a mother. I got a
Starting point is 02:08:41 sister. I got kids. I got daughters. I got a son. And I don't want someone to treat them a certain type of way because they're not up here. So I don't treat other people just because they're not up here. I take time. Hey, how you doing? Even if I'm in a hurry, I'm respectful. I'll acknowledge it. Hey, how you doing? Even if I'm in a hurry, I might not stop and sign up, take the picture, but I'll at least acknowledge it, my hands up and hey how you doing and keep it moving but it did my it did my heart good today to see that young that that that that gentleman and he was just like he was like i don't know if he actually knew my name but he's like i know i know you i've seen you i i know you and so that that made that made me feel pretty good. Ocho, does you not being in the hall yet bother you? Love the show. You deserve to be there. Nah, nah, it don't bother me. It don't bother me.
Starting point is 02:09:35 Obviously, Hall of Fame is one of the highest achievement, the highest achievement. The highest achievement you can receive from, obviously, your those voters that, that put you in. But if you, if you follow me throughout my career and obviously I've always played the game my way, I had fun. I remain my authentic self. Um, if my focus was the hall of fame, I think I will think I would have conducted myself in a different manner. I would have conducted myself in a way of obviously not putting the jacket on, mocking the Hall of Fame. I'm just one of the few players who has an identity outside of just football where I to me I think I
Starting point is 02:10:27 really don't need the jacket my peers know you know what I did when I played those that played against me those that have coached against me and I've always been always I've always been content I've always been content and I think you know the hall of fame obviously it is a tremendous accomplishment but it's not the end all especially my resume itself speaks for itself um and i didn't conduct myself in a way where the hall of fame would really want someone that made the game fun and entertaining and and kind of not made fun of the Hall of Fame, but kind of mocked it in a sense, you know, putting on his own jacket in the middle of a game. And I was OK with that because I never I never needed validation.
Starting point is 02:11:13 I was never never one that really, really seeked it or needed it. And I just I just had fun playing the game. And that was it. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, are you a fan of making resolutions or do you prefer setting specific goals for an upcoming year? For me, like, you know, a lot of people do diets. I don't do a lot of diets because diets have a start and a stop date. I have a lifestyle. I have a healthy lifestyle. I eat a certain way. I live a certain way. Are there goals that I want to accomplish? Sure. Absolutely. Even when I played, I had goals. I want to do X, Y and Z. OK, what was the best way for me to go about it? And that's that's the way. But I think it's good to have goals. They need to be out of the world. I like to aim for the stars. And even if i just land on the moon i'm still pretty high up yeah uh you know i don't sit you know i said things that i sometimes i'm like man can i actually i'm like hey effort i'm gonna put it out there anyway because i believe i believe if i set my mind to something god has given me the the discipline and the dedication and the determination that I can
Starting point is 02:12:26 focus and I can have a singular, I can have a singular focus. It's almost like layers. It's like layers. I'm talking about like government tracking. Okay. That's what I want. I'm going to go do it. I'm going to go get it. And if I don't know how to, I don't have a problem asking people, what do you think about this? What's the best way I should go about that? So I've been very fortunate
Starting point is 02:12:58 over the last six months to meet a lot of people that have helped me and said, I think you should do this. I think you should do that. You're going about this the right way. But if there's anything I can do to help you, if I can put you in touch, contact with people. And this space that we operate in, it's all about relationships.
Starting point is 02:13:15 Yeah. Yeah. That's what it's about. And never burn bridges because you never know who you're going to need on the back end. Never burn bridges. I like that. Something my
Starting point is 02:13:26 grandma always taught me, for those that struggle with structure, for those that struggle with discipline, when it comes to setting goals, especially New Year's resolutions, most of the time, 99% of the people that set a resolution, never stick to it. Never keep up with it because it's very, very difficult to maintain a certain goal over an extended period of time. Very, very difficult. And think about everybody that's in the chat, think about a goal that you set and you were great at it. Maybe the first month, maybe the first two months, but to maintain that discipline and structure to actually attain a goal over a year span, not likely. Not likely. I'm just being honest.
Starting point is 02:14:05 So what I think most should do is set small goals in between. Have a goal set for a month and extend once you reach that month, try two months. When you reach two months, try three months. And at some point, as you continue to do it over a month span or four month span, a six month span, then it becomes habit. It becomes habit. It becomes a part of a part of routine and not it doesn't feel force. If we are. Oh, Joe, we are what we repeatedly do.
Starting point is 02:14:41 Yeah. So what do you do the most? That's what you are. Yeah. So what do you do the most? That's what you are. Yeah. That's who you are. It's really that simple. Yeah. What do you do the most?
Starting point is 02:14:54 You know, it only take, it only take 30 days to do some 30 days consecutively before it becomes a habit. It only, it takes 30 days to do something consecutively over and over and over before it becomes a habit it only it takes 30 days to do something consecutively over and over and over before it becomes a habit but here's the thing ojo and here's the thing while like me being disciplined it's easy for me because i've been disciplined my entire life right because what happens is if you're not careful you can do something but when you get in a stressful situation you'll revert back to what you know it's called muscle memory yeah that's why what a person that has a nice body and all of a sudden they're like man they let himself go and then they
Starting point is 02:15:35 start working out again right and they're like well damn how did that because the body knows you'll revert back we've seen guys i give you example and it's not i'm not taking a shot at tebow but if you just watch tebow just throwing the ball yeah he just throw the ball just like with shorts and teeth he just throwing it he just throwing it but when he got in a stressful situation he will revert back yeah because you'll revert back to what you know. What do I feel most comfortably? Right. That's why it's so hard. When a guy comes out, comes out, comes home,
Starting point is 02:16:11 he's like, I ain't never going back. He get into a stressful situation, what does he or she do? They go back to what? Rewriting back to what they know, to your ways. You got to. At that point, it's survival at that that point and so that's the thing you know
Starting point is 02:16:28 like you said don't burn bridges yeah the toes you step on today might be on the foot connected to the leg that leads to the butt you got to kiss tomorrow boy you got to be careful how you treat people oh joe got to very important you don't know you don't know very important you don't know who today might be somebody tomorrow and people like well he should i was like these referees when you talk to them crazy these voters in the hall when you talk to them yeah they are human yeah oh he's got to remove he got how do you take the human element out of human right that's what makes you human right which is the human frailty the human element of being human that's why i just look man i'm just a guy with you if i don't if i
Starting point is 02:17:24 don't fool if I don't fool people I just don't fool with them Ocho I don't go around them I don't if somebody talking about somebody and I don't fool with them I just go ahead and remove myself from the conversation
Starting point is 02:17:33 right I ain't got nothing I ain't got nothing good or bad or indifferent I just choose not to bring your name up right
Starting point is 02:17:41 and there are people like that there are people I mean that I just don't they name I'm gone your name up. Right. And there are people like that. There are people, I mean, that I just don't, they name, I'm gone. Hey, man,
Starting point is 02:17:51 did I say something? Nah, I'm good, bro. You know, hey, I just, yeah, I want to talk to somebody. That's just the way I do it, Ojo. Right, right. I ain't got time to talk.
Starting point is 02:17:58 Man, look here, man. I'm about to be 56. I got kids and grandkids. What I look talking about somebody. Yeah, and one on the way, but go ahead. And talking about what? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:10 Yeah, I'm trying to do something big and I'm sitting there talking about somebody. They can't. No, no, no, no, no, no. That ain't gonna work. Absolutely not gonna work. Again, please make sure you hit that like button.
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Starting point is 02:18:50 yourself a bottle for you or someone that you love the Packers beat the Vikes 33-10 Baltimore Ravens hammer the Dolphins 56-19. Cardinals beat the Eagles, which now gives Dallas the inside track to the NFC East crown and the number two seed.
Starting point is 02:19:15 And with the Cardinals beating the Eagles, the San Francisco 49ers sew up the top seed in the NFC. Not the South, the top seed in the NFC. Be very interesting how they played this last game. They played the Rams at home. If I'm not mistaken, the Rams need that win in order to make the playoffs. Am I correct, Ash? David Tepper, there's a video that has surfaced of David Tepper. Looks like he's throwing a drink at a Jaguars fan during today's game
Starting point is 02:19:44 in which they lost uh his carolina panthers he's the owner of the carolina panthers the bears oh the rams clinch okay so the rams gonna be interesting what the rams do because they clinch the playoff wait they they uh they what seven no seed. Six or seven seed? The Rams. What are they, the six? The Whatchamacallit can make it too. No, I think they got to
Starting point is 02:20:16 think the Steelers beating them really hurt them. The Rams are the six seed. The Rams are the 60 the Rams are the 60 I thought I was right Rams are the 60 oh yeah yeah
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Starting point is 02:21:14 You got to work. Non-stop. You got to work tomorrow? No. For real? I ain't got to work tomorrow. I got a flight in the ball I gotta fly I gotta flight in the morning man
Starting point is 02:21:27 you gotta work flight in the morning I gotta fly fly to Philly I gotta do inside the NFL ah man I'm excited I can't wait yeah
Starting point is 02:21:37 well hold on but you only got like another what oh you got a ways to go cause you got the playoffs so you got another month yeah that's fine
Starting point is 02:21:44 cause I ain't and then y'all and then you are y'all going to are y'all going to But, oh, you got a ways to go because you got the playoffs. So you got another month. Yeah, that's fine. Because I am. And then y'all, are y'all going to a location? Are y'all going to do at the Super Bowl? Or are y'all going to do at Mount Laurel? No, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. It would be nice.
Starting point is 02:21:57 We might as well, since I'm assuming everybody's going to be in Super Bowl. So it would be nice to just do it from out there. I'm not sure if they can. Yep. That would be dope. Happy New Year, everyone that joined us. We want to thank you for joining us. I love you.
Starting point is 02:22:13 This was the last episode of 2023. This is the first episode heading into 2024. Even though we ended 23, we headed to 24. And thank you for joining us. Everything that we've been able to do in 23 we look forward to doing even bigger and better in 24 but it's all because of you thank you for your support thank you for your kindness thank you for jumping in the chat chat letting us know what we need what we can do better what we can improve on because at the end of the day it's all because of you you're the audience audience. You tell us what you like. You tell us what you don't like.
Starting point is 02:22:47 And we try to cater to you. But even in catering to you, we still have to be authentic. We still have to be ourselves. Oh, we just hit 593. What is that? Oh, Joe. Scotty Pippins. The man, Scotty Pippins. They made Scottie Pippins.
Starting point is 02:23:05 I remember. Scottie Pippins wore them. It said air on the side. I remember them. Am I wrong or am I right? He wore them, but somebody else wore them, too. Charles Barkley wore them, too. For real?
Starting point is 02:23:19 Yeah. I don't know nothing about them. But these are special. And why are these special? Ocho, $593, Ocho. We these special? Ocho, 593, Ocho. We almost got it. We almost got it, Ocho. But we're going to hit 600.
Starting point is 02:23:32 We're going to hit 600 by tomorrow night. Tomorrow night. Yeah. Oh, that's dope. That's the goal to hit by tomorrow night. And we're trying to be 800 by the time we hit the Super Bowl. That's our goal. 800 by the time we hit the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 02:23:54 Boy, that's crazy, boy. We doing crazy work. Crazy numbers. It's only going to get better. You know, your uncle out here having all these meetings trying to get it, bro. I'm trying to get bigger and better. I'm ready. It's going to be and improve.
Starting point is 02:24:10 You know I'm working. I'm working. Don't think I ain't working. Oh, yeah. Who played that? What? You hear music? Oh. Yeah, that was my music? Oh.
Starting point is 02:24:28 Yeah, that was my phone. Oh. So, thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for spending your early 2024 with Nightcap, Unc, and Ocho. I'm your favorite sports Unc, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85,
Starting point is 02:24:44 route runner extraordinaire Bengals legend ring of honor Chad Ocho Cinco
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