Nip Tuck - Topless Men!

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

Since when did men start posing topless on pregnancy announcement pics? Are newborn baby shoots a good idea? What would you tell your 22 year old self? And why is Ashley now following the “Let them��� theory?We also update you on our hilarious night at Tanya Bardley’s latest event! If you want to hear our mini series all about fertility with Kate The Cheshire Acupuncturist then sign up to our Patreon - patreon.com/niptuckpod - episodes will be out on Monday 24th February 2025. If you want bonus episodes each week you can subscribe on Apple podcast. Get in touch with us - Email - [e-mail] Whatsapp - [phone] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

guys hi happy wednesday or whatever day you're listening on it's cool uh welcome to nip to not giving up we are glad to have you here so we just had a really amazing guest in haven't we babe yes we just had kate the chasha acupuncturist in acupuncturist um so we've had a lot of chat about fertility previously we did the episode with kate and honestly the amount of questions the chat the chat continues in patreon a lot about hormones periods fertility pregnancy a lot of us are women i guess it's it's a normal chat right yeah and we know it's not of interest to everyone but we decided we're gonna do a little three-parter so we've done basically a mini series we've covered three different episodes we've got periods trying to conceive ivf and there's a

little talk on miscarriage there fertility hormones we've done a mini series that's going to be available you can get that on patreon on monday so if it is something of interest please go on there and have a little listen if not we've got the normal episode the normal bonus as usual but this is like an extra for you guys if you want it honestly the amount of stuff that i have just learned yeah wow she and there's the tip of the iceberg yeah it was really interesting so anyway we will post on instagram details of that yes if you are interested so it's not going to be on apple subs that's going to be over on our patreon and actually one of the reasons we're doing it on there as well is we're going to start a chat aren't we actually within our categories that we already

have and it's going to be like a fertility trying to women's health women's health chat because i know when you are going through you know ivf trying to conceive miscarriage miscarriage all that type of thing sometimes you don't want to speak to your friends you want to speak to like-minded people that are going through something all anonymous yeah nice community so if you do want to listen to those episodes and then carry on the chat we're going to make a little chat on there so guys over on patreon for all that type of stuff now no no we've been out oh no brown girl we went to tanya bardsley julie perry event didn't we yeah we did we had a lot of fun um it was a really nice day wasn't it i really enjoyed myself i had dramas in the morning with

safety oh my god it's always me i got this outfit the problem is when you're pregnant right you can try an outfit on one day and it fits or at a different time of the day yeah because you bump or the baby moved so i got the this outfit these jeans that you look really well thank you nice top good popped it on thought yeah sweet all good didn't try it on again for a few weeks came to try it on that morning and the jeans were too big well i thought quite a bit too quite a lot too big but they weren't when i tried so i must have tried one at night or the baby must have been front facing and on this particular day the baby had made its way to my spine and i didn't even have that big a bump so anyway last minute i'm trying to put a fucking safety pin my tits were

hanging out i didn't realize until i actually wore the top and moved that it was rather x-rated um so i got there i was in a rush with a load of safety pins and one of our friends amy who is just a mother hen is yeah she's just mummy yeah she's like come here took me off to the side everyone else was having the welcome drink and i was like my clothes are falling off yeah so she did my safety pins on my pants and my top um so yeah when we got oh it's so embarrassing so basically it was mottram hall so when we got when you got there you got out of the car it was all grand and it was very grand and there was um paps there and there was like a board with the stuff on the background you stand in front so they're all waiting these paps for the wags and the celebs

and all that kind of oh honestly i was so embarrassed and i just didn't i don't and she was on her i was on my own in an uber not even an exec uber because it was four pounds more and he was on the work card anyway i was like lauren you should have just got an uber no because i offered you a driver and you're like no i'll get an uber and it's four pound more for the exec i thought i don't need an exec i just need to get in the fucking car and i had a load of work to do in the car so i was like in the car editing things and then i wasn't really looking so then he's like you're here love and i thought i'm here as she was in and she'd come from hers with a few of the others so i was on my own and i looked up and i thought oh fuck there was paps there there was and

i was in an uber and i pulled out right in front there's all these cars pulling i thought i can't get out this is mortifying i didn't know where i was going i'm gonna have to get out so i got out and everyone just looked at me they were waiting to use getting out this uber it's not gonna be fucking clean i came out with my pants hanging off my tits out so i just got out and i just looked at me i just faced turned to myself right so i was just facing the back so they probably thought they're fucking weird and i just stood there with my back to them all ignoring them as if they weren't there ringing ashy anyway got there and you're only waiting two minutes and it's only a couple of minutes but it felt like such a long time and it was so embarrassing

um and then we got out and we walked into the venue and then we did the um bit where you take your pictures and stuff and really funny one of the paps aaron who's really really nice um following on instagram and he reposted yesterday and ashley knew why i'd read so he reposted like a collage of the people and there was like um phil foden's missus there was annie kilner wags celebrities yeah i didn't realize that yeah she was wearing red very pretty she was she's stunning with her hair in a bun she's really whatever she's done recently she's had a real kind of maturity glow up like she looks really like she's only young yeah anyway so there's this thing and he'd written wags and celebrities arriving arriving very so i reposted

it we didn't even look that good on the picture the reason i reposted it is because he said wags and celebrities now we're clearly not wags which means we are so i reposted it and ashley straight away messaged me like i was like yes because it said celebrities it made me feel really good about myself so we went to the um we went to the dinner it was absolutely fantastic it was mental mummies yeah and it's like um uh mental health charity tanya did a talk which was really like it was quite emotional yeah and it was really like right she was basically saying you know you have a baby all the things that you go through when you and then they get a bit older and how do you navigate it and at the same time as being a mother and trying to be a good mom and keep this fucking

thing alive you've got your own issues as well you have relationship issues work issues mental health issues and she was basically saying and this is why i love tanya she was saying what we say which is let's stop judging each other let's help each other out a bit because it's fucking hard being a mom and it's hard in this day and age just being a woman and a person so she she did a really really good chat and she had dj fat tony oh my god what a great dj seriously christina if you do any events like no it was so the music was fantastic i love him on instagram as well well i did look for him but i searched for fat tony and stuff came up that wasn't him there was a lot of you wouldn't believe how many people that had called tony a fat

it was my dad's called tony well he's not fat no it's fat but these were just men that were fat call tony it was weird anyway he was amazing um luke hamnet came with us he is hilarious he's lovely he got hounded we don't realize how celebrity he is honestly he non-stop people yeah yeah he's lovely we met some lovely patreon girls oh my god rio and paris yes um and they actually sent us over a bottle of champagne well i couldn't drink it but a bottle of champers i drank it all yes and they came over and they were chatting to us lovely girls and they the stuff they were saying was so kind and it was just we met the mum the mum was gorgeous gorgeous yeah nice you know i love those days out i enjoy it they're really nice lovely women the julie perry

events are always good nice and we're speaking at the next we are international god knows what we're saying i don't know i need to do actually yeah i don't know what we're doing but then oh no so the event finished at like four o'clock and everyone was going to what's it called dog monkey i kept calling it things like dog bowl i couldn't remember what it's called it's an irish and stuff and it was like i think we're going to puppy feet so we get to this irish bar right and we look through the window and there's a wake on there's a funeral there's a feelers awake and it was all men army men army but old men like it was an old military i would say it was an old death like we're talking 80s it was with them what oh in the urn yeah yeah

and we walked in and obviously they were i mean they were talking 70s 80s black suits and we were like we're like we walked in we were like condolences and we were walking through and they were going oh my god they were like do you want a drink and then they were holding the mate yeah no we were in hysterics and then me and uh bella was outside and there was like a group of lads and we were like let's wind them up and we were going i just missed dave and she was going i miss dave too i can't believe you had both of us and we've just discovered today they were like whoa who the fuck was day we're like no disrespect no disrespect no it was it was an old and then they had the violinist and you can you imagine that because obviously i wasn't drunk um my face

you know how i've got such an expressionate face i kept looking i said this violin it is a vibe in there it is a vibe in there on a sunday it's very funny then lauren texted me but i said have you got home all right and then she texted me back say i'm home okay can we go the sweaty dog when i'm not pregnant i liked it in there it was really good it was stinky dog it was really good and there was loads of fun people i think good good place for um man man hunting maybe if you want an 80 year old if you're looking for a man in an urn hey um but yeah and there was a violin and it was fun it was really fun and you went out what did so i went home i could even pregnant i Could have stayed, but I thought, there's no point in this.

Like, I might as well go home. But I think a day session, we must be old. I was home and in bed by 11. Like, fantastic. But that was 12 hours. It's a lot of drinking. Yeah, I guess. I was a bit.

Where did you go after? Because you were going on and I left. Then we went to Knutsford, all of us. Did you go to? Lost and found. What is that? Is it a pub or a club? It's huge.

What is it, a bar? what bar restaurant oh is it busy yeah it's that place do you know when you're at mine and you drive down the road in the roundabouts there yeah right and there's that big building the courthouse building and the petrol stations there it's that big bar where everyone sits outside oh because i've seen it yeah when you drive past it yeah i didn't know it was there um so we went there and then we went to wine and wallop and a wine and wallop is such a vibe what is a wine and a wallop like what's a wallop what what is it when when what what does it mean i'll ask next time i go i would say a wallop's a shag a wine and a wallop well maybe or a punch is it a punch i gave him a

wallop either way i find that bish bash bosh we need to know more about that so anyway yeah we had a really really good day didn't we i was i've been tired ever since though like it really took it out of me i think it's all that standing up and stuff but we had a really good time and it was being filmed for tanya's new program i'm excited to see that right um now what is going on instagram this week so basically there's this trend we'll have all seen it probably has passed now oh you're so angry on this trend aren't you i'm not angry just annoying it's boring you isn't it i just don't right so the trend is you go for a coffee with your younger self and a lot of my friends have done it yeah callum did it didn't i thought i wonder if you said to him stop that

someone did one that made me laugh a lot it was like i went for a coffee with that's funny with my younger self and her tits were shit all right mine would be i went for a coffee with myself and i didn't look like her i didn't recognize i didn't know who she was she didn't recognize me um so that got me thinking i actually am all right with that trend i quite like it there's a lot i do i get it but then some of them are very deep and it's like is there any need for that i'm very deep though so i don't yeah i mean i didn't do one but right i find it quite self-indulgent that's all i'm gonna say yeah isn't everything yeah on instagram self-indulgent though yes yeah yeah it is really

if you think about it so i just use mine for like pictures of me looking pretty so that got me thinking about this if you were to go for coffee let's say the age of let's go for 22 with your 22 year old self what would you say to her and what do you think she would be like do it do the trend for me okay you don't have to do it in the words though and then so if i met myself at 22 for coffee um i'd just say like just keep going babe so i wouldn't change anything you're doing because you turn out okay in the end and we have a great life yeah crack on what would she be like like what would she look like what would she be doing she would not have had anything done yet just about to have lip filler yeah lip filler but no surgery uh no

just about to get her boobs done so she's flat chested yeah and how does i i just you're not good at this trend i think yeah because i don't have the mental capacity to go back and think like it's all very traumatic like i don't again you put it in the box and you hide the box and no one is not no that's not healthy it's working out okay same like that i don't think that's what we're meant to advise i think we're meant to advise to take out the box and and do you know what we actually discussed this trend about three years ago on the podcast did we yeah we did um when victoria beckham wrote a letter to her younger self do you remember no i do not i think me and you did like a little thing of what we would say it was one of our first podcasts oh

my god i don't remember that um i'm gonna see if it's her victoria beckham we should have listened back to that because that would have been quite funny so i'm trying to think when i was 22 here what i was doing what i looked like i was quite traumatized i think actually it says dear victoria mrs beckham a letter to her 18 year old oh see i like it dear victoria i know you're struggling right now you are not the prettiest or the thinnest or the best at dancing at arts college i'll just skip over bits of this you've never properly fitted in although you're sharing your surrey school digs with really nice girls you have bad acne you think the principal has put you at the back end

of the year sharing a humiliating lycra leopard nuditar something. Basically, it's quite like... Deep. Yeah.

You haven't forgotten about being bullied at school, have you? Like, it's, yeah, we'll put a link to it

on Patreon and it says here, your complexion will sort itself out, Victoria. See, that's good to know. If someone said to me,

I think it's quite helpful, you know, like... At school, you eat super noodles and boxes of frosties because they say they are fat free they're not they're not oh and they're making your acne worse yeah exactly but yeah so victoria did it oh i like it do you know what we do a lot though is we go back and be like what would you tell your younger self and you always say everything will be okay blah blah blah but you know what you should think

about is your future self because we now still have like problems but actually what would your 50 year old self say to you now because probably the same yeah it's gonna be fine because we all think oh god we're in our 30s we're old and it's like we're not so in our 50s i think would be like babes you think you're old you're fucking not yeah you think like nothing's aching on you yet everything's still sitting straight you're still good don't give your life don't think it's over you've got like i'm 20 years ahead of you and i still feel like i'm 25 in my head i think that's the kind of thing you'd say to yourself speaking of all of this like self-reflection and you know it's i've been listening to this book and it's called let them by mel robbins and i've only i'm

only about an hour and a half in but basically how long is it it's called the let them theory so she starts by talking about how she developed this let them and basically it was her son's prom and she's got two daughters and a son and she was like watching men is so crazy because the daughters at their prom were like mom we need hair we need makeup we need our dress we need um this spray time we need uh this reservation making da da da da and her son was like i'm not even sure if i'm going yet and they're on the just day before he decides that he's going she's running around like getting everything ready for him and she like gets a corsage for his date and he goes to her no mom she doesn't want one don't give it to her they turn up they drop him off

they're taking pictures and the date hands him a corsage and she goes to him i've got one for you and the way he looked at her was like like you weren't meant to do that yeah and then basically she goes into how one thing in your life is your life is like an ice cube and you're melting away that is one consistent thing that will always happen you and your loved ones around you are melting yeah and that's time that's the one thing that is consistent and it's it's guaranteed time is running out that's one thing that you can count on yeah time is running out with your loved ones how long yeah sure that is still going every day plus as you take you're still melting every day the sun will go up and go down and that's another day gone but it's the way that you

let other people do whatever they want around you mistreat you you know that you have no power over otherwise you are just going to stress about other people's feelings what other people think of you she talks about one time she was on facebook and she saw her best friends all went away without her which we've which has happened a few times like in the group chats on patreon we've had yeah and she was like in that moment i used this theory it was a saturday night i was sat there and i was in tears on the sofa and i just thought well they're up here and i'm down here yeah i've still got my you know good friends and family around me that wouldn't do that to me i'm going to let them do that and i'm going to move up here and they'll be down there to me yeah and it's so good guys so

have a listen to that that's what pretty much what we say anyway that's something that you get with age i think as well so if you're younger it's certainly worth listening to i don't know we do say that but then i i i'm quite conflicted on this because i talk a lot about boundaries and i you know also i'm very vocal in telling people when i've got a problem yeah and now i've listened to this i think i'm like am i causing myself an issue by being so standoffish and i think i already am like the let them i you are i'm very if you want to do that say somebody did me wrong i wouldn't feel the need unless you know she talks about other people what they think of you yeah you used to be quite yeah whereas now i just think like you say let them and if somebody

does something to me i don't often feel the need to conference it in my head i have then made a note of that i have thought right i remember that i don't hold it but it might affect my thoughts and opinions of that person but i don't feel the need to tell them you carry on and i'll carry on and that's how i've always been and if something happens that doesn't concern me i don't really care i agree but then unfortunately yeah in adult relationships and at work if someone like i don't know it's knowing when when to do it when to bother and when to just let it go for me if it isn't going to affect my immediate life and it isn't going to be because i don't ruminate really either i don't overthink stuff so if it's not going to affect my overthinking then i'll let it

slide if it's going to stay in my mind and i'm going to still think about it then i'll speak up like for example with the being left out the girls trip thing i think that was really good advice that she gave because yeah they're not your people i wouldn't they are not your people i wouldn't say anything i'd think in my head you girls now are not in my circle i don't need to tell you you do she's better off at home with her family spending time with them and you just stick to the people so i do i think it's really good so who's it by mel robbins yeah i'm gonna send you the book i'll put it on patreon actually i did put it on patreon last night and a lot of the girls on there were listening to it as well and she's done a few podcasts as well um and one of my

friends is going through um something uh with grief at the minute and she sent me this one that she said she keeps listening to and it's really people with grief yeah because we get asked about that a lot and i have very bad advice she has a podcast isn't she like a big it's a really big podcast oh is it yeah it's really big so this let them theory there's it basically she decided to write this book because it wasn't long ago it was about a year ago she did a tiktok it's not a long tiktok i think it's a minute or two long and it's like this is my theory the let them through boom boom boom boom and it was the most like shared really ticked off and people were getting tattoos let them like it's like the new secret right okay isn't it for it i'm

absolutely here for it so it sounds like i think though i'm an hour and a half in and i do think with me and you were quite like that with but these self-helpy books yeah like the secret i didn't i've never listened to the whole thing i'm like i got that now right yeah you know what i mean like i don't need to you know go over it and yes once you feel like you've got it you're like right bored yeah got yeah yeah got thumbs up so and i don't think any every theory doesn't apply to every situation so i think if you've got a load of theories and then you use them on different situations i think that makes sense yes it's not a one size fits all i don't think i don't think life is is it right so another just to totally like throw this off edge as usual as usual bing

bong boo um last night in our group chat mine christina's and ashley's we were talking about newborn photo shoots obviously i am having a baby soon so we were talking about like photo shoots do's don'ts blah blah blah um am i having a maternity shoot all that i think you should do one because your bump is so aesthetic lauren and you know like charlotte saw you at the weekend actually and i was waiting to tell you this today she said she looked absolutely beautiful oh no and i know you don't think you do and when you're pregnant you do need to hear that lauren turner saw you in juniper i was in such did she tell you what no she said she looked absolutely beautiful i'm swearing profusely she said you look beautiful just let take the

I know I don't like it I'm just like right anyway she said she looked absolutely beautiful her bump looked gorgeous she looked glowing so and as well

go back to what Mel Robbins said this part of your life you're only gonna have once yeah and it's you have to

I know everyone's like it's great fucking revel in it go and get some pictures because in 10 years

20 years 30 years 40 years you'll have a really nice memory no you're right and i think you should go and do it and the newborn pictures i think so we were talking me and james actually funnily enough we're going off a tangent again we're talking about this last night

and we were talking about the fact that this is both of our last baby we will not be going again this well never say never um but no i don't intend to this is it and i think he's actually gonna get the snip so this is it we're done and the when you have that feeling it's very special it's so much but like the whole pregnancy yes of course i'm tired i've got backache but i feel so different this time because i'm like lauren this is it now you'll go to your deathbed and you're not doing this again and it's like amazing and for him as well he's like it's the last child i'm having the last bottle i'll feed the last toddler so it actually does it feels a certain way so i think maybe i'll make that might be my turn to i don't know i don't

know we'll see the thing is i've got loads of pictures anyway so i use this lady so that's what we went on to yeah katie jordan photography paid for everything just want to you know recommend her to everyone she's absolutely amazing and if you book enough in advance she comes to the house so this is what and it just made it a lot less of a thing so in one room it was she was doing the baby then i was in the other room with the other babies and i said come on now just for two seconds let's all get a nice picture it's in your surroundings you don't have to worry about actually sent them in and the pictures are absolutely lovely it's just you're all in your jammers like near the window set because the reason we got onto it is we were talking

about newborn babies in plant pots with a sunflower out their ass we were talking about this right now listen guys i think a huge majority of you listeners will have done this i did it with taskia so she was wearing money is you did a fucking cake smash exactly so i'm not So shut the fuck up. She looks so fucking cute on that. But this is what I mean. Just go and do it. But we actually were laughing at it.

And another recommendation, guys, Grace Kelly Photography. Yeah, for Christmas. She does the newborn ones as well. She's done some stunning ones for Megan. We were talking more about, Christina was kind of saying, weren't you, that some of them you think,

it's Christina's fault, how do you get the baby, like there's babies in plant pots. So basically, squished up in a plant pot. I know all about this. So you have to do it. Something like when they're three weeks old.

I'm not into that. When they're three weeks old because they're asleep all the time. I'm not into it. And then also Katie's got this warm fan that she keeps on. So they're all warm. And then she's so calm. Like if they do a push, she's just like, oh, it's fine. But also, oh, I just think it's so cute.

And like, do you know how much Saskia loves those pictures of herself? I don't like them. And she goes like, Mummy, how funny that you put me in a plant pot. Why did you do that? And I'm like, oh. No, see, I just... And she's got...

I won't be doing that. She's so cute, she's got a box of pictures of herself that she gets out and looks at. Oh, that's quite narcissistic, like you. And she gets out a picture of herself. She lays them all out on the floor sometimes. No, I personally, personal, personal opinion, like I said, I did the fucking cake smash.

People hate that. And I wouldn't do it again. just because your opinions change i'm not i won't be doing like um i won't be going to a studio and having like plant pot pictures i'm just not into them but then that got us on to something that i will do that's also quite cringe but christine was like you'll do this with james and i was like i fucking will because we're allowed like what i think's cringe someone else might not and we were talking about topless men yeah pictures right you got your top off no no no it's not right yeah but why do the men on a pregnancy i saw a pregnancy announcement where the girl is holding

the scam pictures and the man's hopeless but like why are you why have you got any any opportunity to take their top off certain men they'll take the top off like but why and also then the picture of the mum and the baby the mum's not there with the tits out so and she's the one that needs this baby when it's um a new a newborn because it's skin skin skin skin yeah but when someone's doing a pregnancy and ask me at what point did the guy start taking is it because yeah like the the skin to skin thing is is like it's a skin yeah yeah i mean not when the six weeks old you don't even skin well what i don't know it's ed was weird like that as well he kept well is it my chance to what the fuck but it's a thing that they want to do

and but the announcement when one's holding a scan and the man's got his top off it just really makes me laugh because i just have this vision of the man taking his top off and everyone being like steve what are you doing and then we got oh my god also you know do you remember ages ago when and people still do it now and no shade or anything but but it's like those pictures where it's like baby jones coming and it's like they announce it i don't know say like on halloween and it's a pumpkin and the people buy them off etsy yeah i thought yeah i thought they made i did as well at first and then i saw it i was looking for something else and etsy and i was like huh yeah and you know the other thing that i won't be doing not that again there actually

isn't any shade i just won't have i just and i didn't have time with you when you have the cards one month two month three month and you buy them off etsy don't you i got gifted i'll just forget i don't think that's something i would have time to do i'd love to have time to do that yeah but i mean i do have time to do random shit you know i was thinking about today my section and i was thinking about i want to film it and i thought do you think they'll let me put a tripod up or is that not yeah ed filmed the baby coming out of me but i want james to be like not filming so i want to so he's like one of the nurses can film it yeah i want a tripod yeah do you think they'll say yeah i mean you went to portland babe you could have a fucking film crew probably and

they'd allow it but i'm wondering whether they'll let me ask your midwife i just thought but i wouldn't tell them that my job or anything because then they might get a bit like oh aggy you know in case i post anything and then oh they'll be wearing the gloves do you know what i mean they might be like oh aggy about me filming it whereas if i'm just like i just want it for my memories yeah surely because i want to i want james to not be holding his phone i want to be into it but i want it filmed i want to see it's all to you yeah um have you decided about your music i had spa music playlist and it was lovely no i think we will have um it'll be like a james arthur don't know if it gets a bit of a stressful situation and then james arthur's like that's why

i thought it won't be no i'm thinking like the songs that are important to us it might make him cry he would cry anyway do you know things like our wedding songs birdie a touch of okay you know like something emotion you're thinking about the real aren't you yeah i was just gonna say have you thought about the real yeah yeah what's the music on the real birdie i have been looking so on the way here is this where you had that meltdown the other day about your songs going off instagram no that is right no that that has really bothered me mine have gone as well i can't get that has really upset me apart from like um weird stuff that has really upset me and i know so this is funny so the song i did a reel last night because do you know what it's come at a

time when i'm trying to do more content my content um as can be really really shit so i'm just making more of an effort and i thought why is this happened right now but the only song that was available on the fucking thing was what i put on last night which was the cardigans i think it's the cardigan love me love me that one anyway funnily enough i saw sasha after a yeah um post a reel with that on and i thought ah your music's gone too i thought your music's gone too i was on the phone to instagram last night oh i do you told me to do more reels i do more you rang them yes i fucking mean you can't even fucking ring me and christina actually they rang me so when you go on the help because it's serious i can't do any reels and i'm

trying to do reels and the baby's coming soon like i'm trying to do more so what did they say um so i went on the support and if if you got like the matter verify thing then you get more support and they rang me i think he was in china but he pretended he was in london he wasn't anyway he rang and he basically said that now creators also can't use copy something about copyright yeah no but it's really bad you don't do a lot of reels but if you're somebody that does a lot of reels like people that do like fashion reels every day you're fucked because i work with brands so there used to be like trending sounds and there's not really anymore it's really bad so hence everyone's got the cardigans at the minute or whoever it is that

sings that loveful love me love everyone's real is that and i thought your music your idea your music's gone as well so it was very stressful anyway my real when i have the baby i'm going to i've been thinking about it because i'm in a courtesy car today and i don't know how to work the radio or anything so i've been in silence all the way here so yes on the way here i have had some thoughts about the real when the baby comes um and i have had some music thoughts on it brilliant there and another thing and another thing and oh that's and james will have his top off and i will take a picture in black and white and put a grain on it well he's holding the baby black and white doing some press ups for us um another thing is the car seat picture why

at what point who discovered the car seat picture so it's a thing this is gonna go down in the history books that our children read yeah when mum had the baby she put a picture of dad walking out of the hospital dad did nothing dad did fuck all mum split split her kipper or her stomach for this so dad gets the picture carrying the baby carrying all the bags and the suitcase and taking the picture and dad's going out in the car see dad's done fuck all it's not been asleep but who made that somebody did the first ever one and it is now and there's nothing against it but it is you're right the dad is holding the car seat it's and it's dad's like reward dad's reward dad's got the goods mum is limping behind and peeing and bleeding and carrying the bags taking the picture

dad is going out with his prize fish get a picture of mum pushing the duna smiling mum holding mum who did all the work no dad he's got in a new tracksuit it's the equivalent of the facebook profile picture holding a big fish yeah he's got his guns he's going out with his proud guns he's done nothing can i ask why didn't know why does nobody push the baby out in a push chair why is it always carried because basically they're so newborn then they are like and it's not a long journey and you're only walking it's a bit you're only walking from the hospital to the car park it's a bit of a faff getting your pram up pushing it putting it down with a doona no you carry it you just carry it and you look at it and then all the way home

you like sit next to it and you hold it and you literally how scary is that first journey every bump you're like oh and then the baby's like oh and you're like well it's all so scary as a newborn ah all the way home you just stare at it like wow look what we made it's a lovely feeling i'm actually really really excited about that moment okay enough baby chats god we've done all fertility and babies but you know i always get messages saying they love it when we talk about baby stuff oh karen does okay so dilemmas hi girls love the pod congratulations on all your success. Friend dilemma here. Oh, they're tough. So I've been really good friends with this girl for many years. We were very close and she did lots for me when I needed it. A few years ago,

she split from her long-term boyfriend who was friends with my boyfriend. It was very messy and it actually caused a natural rift. The issue is he has a new partner who she doesn't like. I've tried to be neutral and to be nice to the new girlfriend while still being friends with my friend my friend has basically called me out for not being loyal and it's hurt me because I don't understand why I can't be friends with both especially as I don't have no beef with either I just don't talk about either party in any situation the new girlfriend is actually really nice and has given me no reason to dislike her. I've recently heard that my old, we're calling the other one the old friend, that the old friend was saying mean things about me and it's really

hurt me. We've gone months without speaking or seeing each other except for the odd text. What do I do? Do I cut all ties and leave it? Do I get new friends? Please leave me a non. go lauren we've all been in this situation right i can see this from different points of view which isn't that helpful and makes it quite difficult um it's hard to assess without knowing the dynamic of the friendship a little bit more were they best best friends then she got with her boyfriend like it depends the dynamic um i think she's done the right thing by staying neutral i think there's no need to be mean to the new girl the new girl has done nothing other than get with the guy so if they're going on double dates she should never be mean to her but at the same time i can

understand why the girl if it was quite a messy breakup and it's unpleasant she might feel a bit jealous if they're constantly going out on double dates and she's posting selfies with her and stuff i do understand how that could hurt but it's very immature of old friend to put that on this girl unfortunately old friend should be mature enough to think oh i don't really like that that's my friend and shut up though and don't put it on and to see that the bigger picture yeah and also she says old friend doesn't like new girlfriend why so if it's just because she's going out with her sex like not enough not warranted yes bitch about her in your chat if you want what a human be like we're human however if there's no real reason for disliking if there's been no beef if there's been

arguments and the girl's done something shady that's different he has been you know breadcrumbing both of them yeah if then it can be a bit messy but it sounds from this message like she just cut yeah she just doesn't like her because and in that case i think i think you've done the right thing i think you should never be mean to the new girl because the new girl's not her fault but i also think it's hard for her imagine how like daunting that would be for her going on like the first couple of meetings knowing that your friends with the ex-girlfriend and every move she makes is it's potentially going back so i think you've done the right thing and the mature nice girl thing by still being really nice to her but what i would say is have you been over

the top do you need to take the selfies and put them on insta do you need to yeah like have you gone too far you can still be really nice to her but just have that boundary and i don't really know i think the bitching thing is a separate thing and i think fuck her off now yeah like she's talking behind your back like let them let them let them i think she's done this girl's done the right thing in this situation i would do a fizzle then able but i also think she does say on that i've got no problem with either side well one of them was your best mate so you should have a touch more loyalty that way she's like oh i'm in the middle ground well you're not really in the middle ground are you you're more her you're more old friend camp um tough well it depends how

if new girl has actually done anything wrong we need we need more background but our thoughts are be tactful tactful in especially what you're showing online because i think what people post online of like i don't know say there was someone that i had a thing with that lauren posted with that would hurt me or they did that's happened when when i went on holiday and that did upset yeah yeah um so i think being tactful and being thoughtful about it and thinking oh it's a pride thing as well in front of other people I think that's a lot of probably what it is but I think you've done the right thing in being nice

to the new girl because I don't think it's her fault but I don't know what she's done so it's a bit of a tough one and we don't know what the bitching is about no but what I would say is don't chase the friendship if she is fuming with you and you genuinely don't feel like you've done anything wrong then perhaps

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