No Agenda - 1581 - "Quippy"

Starting point is 00:00:00 It's not bubblicious. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, August 13, 2023. This is your award-winning Give More Nation Media Assassination, episode 1581. This is no agenda. Back in the lowlands and broadcasting live, parallel to runway 27 at Schiphol Airport in the Netherlands. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Starting point is 00:00:22 And from northern Silicon Valley, where I can tell that the Schiphol connection ain't what it used to be, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Uh-oh, is it a bad connection? It's not a good one, but it's okay if you can hear me. I can hear you. Yeah, you sound great. Good.

Starting point is 00:00:41 Oh, so it's cracking up? It's messing up? It's no good? It cracks up on on modulation oh so when i'm excited you mean no it's when they're when you're playing a loud clip oh okay well i'll try to back it off a little bit just for you sorry but i don't care i can make as long as the recording is good as you sound i mean you you my friend you sound oh, you sound... Oh, yeah. You sound... That's fabulous. I apologize. So, we got up early because, you know... Well, you better preface it because this is... I'm in Amsterdam. How about that?

Starting point is 00:01:14 You're in Amsterdam and we're supposed to start an hour early, but we started a half hour early. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, 20 minutes later than we should have started. I'm telling you, this was completely my mistake. I thought we had discussed like, eh, maybe we'll do an hour early and we really hadn't finalized it. Now, normally I always proofread the newsletter. I was with my sister last night. We're having dinner

Starting point is 00:01:40 and the newsletter comes in and I'm like, I'm not going to do that. And Tina, Tina was like, screw that old guy. No way. Don't do the newsletter. And I forgot about it. And then I never read that we were starting an hour early. See, I made up her fault somehow. It was pretty good. So, so we're sitting downstairs. I'd been ready for an hour and a half. We said, now we can have a nice dinner because it won't be done until midnight. So we'll eat together. And I just ordered coffee. And Tina goes, hey, Twitter's on fire. Everyone's expecting you.

Starting point is 00:02:16 I'm like, oh, okay. So brought the coffee upstairs and got started right away. I'm sorry. That was completely my fault. Yeah, it was. So here we are. Although I could have sent out just a friendly reminder, which I should have done, but I didn't see the need. No.

Starting point is 00:02:33 It's carelessness. Yes. On my part too, Tina said, you know, if it were me, I would have double checked and said just to make sure. I said, yes, I know. By the way, she is packed like Tetris this trip. She's so good at it. Yeah, that's

Starting point is 00:02:48 what she's to keep her. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. As good as keeping time, though. So, yeah, the internet is not what it used to be, I guess. It's not as great as it was. I don't think so. No, it's not as great as it once was. I don't know why is that.

Starting point is 00:03:04 So, any war stories from the flight? You know, I wish I could give you real war stories. I have a very brief travel report, but it was actually kind of smooth. San Antonio is where we left. San Antonio, hands down, a million times better than Austin. First of all, people are from san antonio and it's not austin um now yeah better i was on the lookout for the facial recognition that everyone's been talking about never happened no it's definitely there but it's really sly

Starting point is 00:03:38 they got so they have the cameras down below mounted on the tSA kiosk pointing up, but there's supposed to be a sign that says you can opt out. It was none of that. I did not make any trouble, but I took note of it. Um, so then we, and everything goes,

Starting point is 00:03:56 I wasn't, I'm not going to stop them in their tracks. What is this? It's vacation. I don't want to be a troublemaker. I want to get there. The, I have the new road kit,

Starting point is 00:04:06 everything, you know, and I have it set up and now I just, I'm, I'm very, I'm able to quickly take everything out and put it in 18 bins. Really? It's about seven bins.

Starting point is 00:04:16 So they didn't make no hassle. They didn't, you know, check my bag because there was nothing in it basically. So the new process, that's all working. We fly to Detroit because that's how we we fly to detroit because that's how we're going to get there is through by yeah yeah i know and i've been i used to have chrysler as a

Starting point is 00:04:31 client in detroit uh back in the think new ideas days and i've been to that airport a lot and as we're walking through and that's the airport that's got a subway that goes through the airport. Yes. Yes. They have a subway in the airport. And I was thinking, you know, man, they're really ruining our great American aviation system. You know, because I it's Detroit is one of those places where you fly through it to get to some other destination. And you just know that all these delays and the lack of pilots and cabin crew, and it kind of took me back to the days when you just, you know, you had your driver drop you off at curbside 20 minutes before the flight would leave. You throw your keys into the little bin,

Starting point is 00:05:18 you know, you go through the metal detector. You know, there was no issues with anything. There wasn't, you didn't even screen your bags. There was no bag screening. I don't even think at the time, you know, just put your coins into the little basket and you grab them and you ran to the gate. You got on, there was no TSA. None of that bull crap when I was a kid. And it was, it just, I don't know. I had this weird reminiscing feeling about me about just how easy and it just

Starting point is 00:05:43 used to work, you know, and now you just see everyone unhappy and there's delays everywhere it's just it's it's it's ruined the whole coolness of our our air transportation system is ruined you don't fly yeah thanks to a-holes like the shoe bomber yeah and the assholes who kept hijacking planes to Cuba, if you remember that era. That was before my time. I wasn't part of the Cuban hijacking.

Starting point is 00:06:11 But even then, after that, that's when we got the metal detectors, but you didn't have to take your shoes off. You didn't have to put your bag through. I think there might have been, at a certain point, they might have had some kind of minor X-ray thing that you threw your bag through. But they never, they say, oh, hold on a second. I didn't get a good thing. And they just put it back in again.

Starting point is 00:06:33 Oh, you're good to go. They might wand you if you went off in the metal detector. None of this go back, take your belt off, take your watch off, take all that stuff off. It's just kind of ruined. Anyway, to make matters worse, so we are on Delta from Detroit to Amsterdam. And, you know, you stand in the line. It's like, you need to. What?

Starting point is 00:06:54 What? It's a weird flight. Where are you going? I'm going to Amsterdam from Detroit. It's a cheap flight is what that is, John. It's cheap. And then you get that, ladies and gentlemen, please, if you're going to Amsterdam, you have to have your passport in your hand. If your passport is not in your hand, you are not being on the board.

Starting point is 00:07:12 Okay. We got a passport and our boarding cards. And you walk up and there's a guy just standing there says, look it up. Look in there. Look at the camera. And you look in the camera and flash. I mean, there's no flash, but the screen goes zip. And then the little circle and there's your head and you get a green check mark and that's it they didn't look at your ticket didn't look at my passport anything so they

Starting point is 00:07:33 already had me facial recognitionized or not or not and that went which is my guess it went fast no it had your name there too it. It went, boom, Adam Curry. Well, when they took a picture of you, it said Adam Curry after the picture? No one's taking a picture. There's a screen that's about, you know, well, shoulder height. It sees your head and it says Adam Curry. So it sees your head and shoulders? Because it took the same picture of you down below at the beginning, remember?

Starting point is 00:08:01 Well, that was in, but that was in San Antonio. At the beginning of your flight, yeah. So you're telling me that San Antonio,io the tsa put that into the system it has to what how else would they have your picture with the adam curry name from my prison record i don't know i mean there's no other way that i can think of well and why not it's just a network just an internet come on this stuff never works try try rebooking your flight how they're on the fact that it worked at all i know i'm not arguing that point 100 million i'm just saying that it's possible that what that is that your

Starting point is 00:08:41 picture in san antonio which were they associated with Curry, is the same is how it gave the name Adam Curry when you got to Detroit. I think when we hear here's what I'm thinking. When we checked in in San Antonio, I think then they scanned the passport picture. That's how I think it works. And that goes. So that's in the I don't think the tsa system is connected it feels okay well one of the that would make more sense even that's amazing that it works in today's aviation it's amazing anything works i agree it's amazing i can talk to you from amsterdam

Starting point is 00:09:15 on this connection all of that's amazing so then here's the good part friends of ours who have pull and influence in the Netherlands arranged for the VIP arrival. This is the coolest thing ever. So you walk out of the plane and you go up the halfway up the jetway and there's a lady

Starting point is 00:09:39 with a nice business suit on. Mr. and Mrs. Curry. Yes. Did she have a sign or anything no she spotted me spotted me right away mr and mrs curry uh yes um oh i'm here from the vip center oh the vip center are you in the dip center the vip the vip the vip the vip yeah they called vip vip center i'm here from the VIP Center. Okay. Come with me. And so she opens the door on the jetway, opens up, and there's a little staircase. You go down.

Starting point is 00:10:11 So now we're basically underneath the nose of the aircraft. And there's an Audi limousine. Like, I don't know. Like, it looks like an A8, but it's a limo version. A stretch Audi. Okay. A stretch Audi. And we get in, and it smells new, you know, like Corinthian leather.

Starting point is 00:10:29 And we just, we're driving around the air side of the airport. And then she pulls up and there's all these other people like, hello. And they're all in uniforms, you know, like white shoes, black, black pants and just, you know, uniforms. It was dolled up. Okay. It was dolled up. And there's, and there's a customs guy, you know, and in Yeah, it was dolled up, okay. It was dolled up, and there's a customs guy.

Starting point is 00:10:47 You know, and in the Netherlands, the customs are military. So you went straight, so this just took you to a private customs. Yeah, private customs. And the guy was, cha-chunk, cha-chunk, passport. You go up the elevator, you go through this. So this is like getting off a private plane. Yes, exactly. This is what the king and queen do.

Starting point is 00:11:06 Oh, you've got to set me up for that. I'm going to Amsterdam just for this. Dude, this VIP center has crown jewels behind glass and all the royal family. You know, my girl Maxima, the queen who hair flipped me. It's got beautiful pieces of art. There's huge antique books. It's all, there's all these different rooms. And we go into the canal house room,

Starting point is 00:11:31 which is like a little suite with a TV and a breakfast table and couches. And they say, oh, what can we get you? Can you get some breakfast? Like, yeah, we're ordering breakfast, which is all, you know, they even do the breakfast with the gold paint on the, you know, like the gold stuff on the plate.

Starting point is 00:11:48 So you get French toast. The gold stuff on the plate. You know, I'm at this place and they had gold stuff on the plate. I'm from Texas. What do you call it? What chefs do. What chefs do in the fancy restaurant, you know, they put little gold flakes and they smear it? What chefs do. What chefs do in the fancy restaurant. They put little gold flakes and they smear it out.

Starting point is 00:12:07 Gold leaf. Gold leaf. Gold stuff. Gold leaf. Gold leaf on my French toast. That's too much. Do you need our claim checks? No, no, no.

Starting point is 00:12:20 It's all in the system. We'll take care of it for you. And then at a certain point, it's like, you know, whenever you're ready, you know, your luggage is downstairs. And so, you know, we mosey on down after about an hour. I think that'd be a little better on the outbound to have that room. I don't know if we get lucky that way, but it was fantastic. And then, you know, so we're literally across the street in the airport hotel.

Starting point is 00:12:45 It was kind of funny. But that was fantastic. That was the best part. Best part for sure. So it's good to have friends in high places. JC and Jesse went to Hawaii. Wow. So I asked him, I said, I got to have a story, some sort of an airport story to compete with Curry here.

Starting point is 00:13:06 And he didn't have one except for the fact that I guess there was some guy on the plane who they dosed up with Ambien and he started sleepwalking. No way. Yeah, on takeoff. Oh, no. And they took the whole crew to subdue him and then tie him into the seat. And as soon as they strapped him in, he fell dead asleep and he didn't wake up the whole time. Did they put gaffer tape around him? I've seen that.

Starting point is 00:13:30 No, they didn't have to because he conked out. Wow. It's Ambien. They said it was Ambien. He probably had Ambien with a little glass of alcohol. Or something. Who knows? That's a pretty good story.

Starting point is 00:13:41 These drugs are no good. Now, about Hawaii and about maui specifically so we we got several pieces of email that people thought we were huge dicks well they thought you were in particular well i got a couple that said you were in particular but it doesn't matter i mean we were making a point about something that we only had historical information on and yeah this happens a lot. Yeah, and if you're coming at it from a, oh, look at all the people that are dead that we're just finding about now, I mean, our eight hours before that, we weren't quite

Starting point is 00:14:15 up to speed. Here's what we're talking about. We're talking about the following. How did this happen? Yeah, exactly. And it's not global warming. And the whole town burns to the ground. And there was no alerts.

Starting point is 00:14:26 And all the news stories say the same thing. Nobody said anything. We didn't even get a beep on our phone. And so you have a bunch of dead people. This thing was a disaster. How does a town, a complete town like this, burn to the ground? Well, I have some. And they're on the water.

Starting point is 00:14:43 Yes. And you just look along the the shore and there's a bunch of cars burnt to a crisp five feet from the ocean so first of all we were not intentionally being insensitive because people like i can't believe you did that well you can because we're only looking at it from historical perspective we're happens every year. We're not going to make excuses. Every year. I am going to make some excuses. Every year or so this happens. But this was different and we do have some good boots on the

Starting point is 00:15:11 ground reports. And the best one is from Dustin. And I mean so if you look online the conspiracy theories are better than I could have ever even come up with. We have directed energy weapons.

Starting point is 00:15:29 I mean, just- I was expecting that one. But that's not what happened. But there is some, I think there's some credence to some of the thinking that's out there. I have two TikTok clips just to give you an idea

Starting point is 00:15:42 of the kind of stuff that I was being sent. So today we're going to give a little update on the Hawaiian fires. Now I want you to look at this footage and this shirt doesn't look like a fire to me. It looks like something almost exploded or something went off. And this, this footage looks very much like that Northern California footage that was started by the city of paradise paradise. Thank you. It looks very much like that just incinerated and then there's a tree which is perfectly fine you know so these are very weird things now what's interesting is certain things are still standing while other things are not now the governor did

Starting point is 00:16:15 say this is climate change doing this interesting what they don't talk about is in january how they had in maui a smart city conference to turn Maui into an entire smart island. This is true. And I think that is an interesting point, but not quite the directed energy weapons level yet. Changing everything to electric, renewables, solar panels, and pushing everybody into electric vehicles. 15-minute smart cities. so now what's also interesting is next month in september hawaii is hosting the digital government summit utilizing ai to govern the island we're going off track here people it's almost like they're resetting something to start rebuilding for this in which they're trying to push now when we look at all the climate change

Starting point is 00:17:04 narrative that they're going to try to push, but they're not going to talk about the Weather Modification Act of 1976. I highly recommend everybody look into this act because who is involved in the weather modification activities? Department of Agriculture, Department of Defense, Department of Interior, EPA, and NASA.

Starting point is 00:17:21 Okay, so this guy goes on. It's like they modified the weather to ruin Maui. All right, then we get the TikTok girl. I have been trapped in Lahaina for the last four days. And I experienced firsthand what was going on there. What I went through is not important. I need to get this message out. This was not a natural disaster.

Starting point is 00:17:42 This was a direct energy attack on the people and the place of maui if you know what lives there what descendants live there you know why and you know why it happened on 8 8 and if this is not something that you believe it's time to stop being a sheep yeah okay now a couple data points. It is absolutely true that there are a lot of very wealthy, some famous elite people who have big homesteads in Maui. And for a long time, there's been native Hawaiians who have not wanted to give up their land. They didn't want to sell out to them. This town is a very historic town.

Starting point is 00:18:25 And this is where Dustin comes in with his boots on the ground. Lahina, I think is how you pronounce it. He says he's been there in Maui for 14 years. He says, absolutely. Your analysis on Thursday of the fires in Maui having nothing to do with climate change, completely spot on. Here's the background, which I think is interesting. The background where the worst. I think it's Lahaina, completely spot on. Here's the background, which I think is interesting. The background where the worst-

Starting point is 00:18:47 I think it's Lahaina, by the way. Lahaina? Lahaina. The area where the worst fires took place, the west coast of Maui, specifically the town of Lahaina, the town is located on the very western edge of the island in the shadow of the West Maui Mountains, which block almost all of the moisture that comes from the East. This is a hot, dry desert almost all year long. The town of Lahaina was once the capital of Hawaii. And when the Hawaiian royal family lived there, that was the mid 1800s, they would spend their summers in the nearby Olawalu area because it was just too hot to

Starting point is 00:19:20 be in this town. The word Lahaina roughly translated to English means the unrelenting sun, so this has been a hot, dry place for hundreds if not thousands of years. In the mid-1800s, early 1900s, Lahaina became a hub for sugarcane production. Lahaina Harbor became a center for whaling and the whaling industry. Hundreds of wooden homes were built to house whalers and sugarcane workers, and many more large wooden structures were built along the world-famous Front Street and used as stores, restaurants, and hotels to supply the town. Fast forward to present day. Lahaina is a busy tourist destination. All those old wooden buildings, built before modern building codes, are now historic landmarks,

Starting point is 00:20:01 could not be upgraded or changed by the new owners due to permitting restrictions. Buildings were built very close together without any modern fire mitigation measures and located in a part of the island that is surrounded by hundreds of acres of dry grassland and has wildfires, as you mentioned on the show, every single summer season. A few days ago, there was a hurricane that passed to the south of Maui. Now we know that that was about 500 miles away, but they did have 60 plus mile an hour winds on the West Coast, which toppled power lines in the dry grassland just outside of town, igniting them. Let me reiterate, this happens every year at this time, but this year,

Starting point is 00:20:43 the fires just happened to be a little too close to town, and the addition of the hurricane force blowing in the direction of the old wooden homes and stores was enough to burn the entire town of Lahaina to the ground almost immediately. I think this is exactly what happened, but there probably was not a huge incentive on the island, and they've probably been maybe even waiting for this. Like, when are these piece of crap things going to burn down? Because this is gold. This is gold.

Starting point is 00:21:14 And I also think by throwing in the hurricane, maybe we get some kind of force majeure, you know, insurance companies. Like, you know, this is an act act of god they may get off the hook they they may they may then that's why i think this being played up so much but this is going to be dustin says he thinks the the death toll may be in the thousand i well there's only a thousand people missing so it's not going to get into thousands we could get up to a thousand up to a thousand but i'm in total agreement with this yeah they have uh this place was one of those places that is great for tourists i mean i love going into these old that's beautiful rickety old towns like the old wild west and you go in there

Starting point is 00:22:00 and you can shop and there's all these cute little places. And meanwhile, the developers are looking, jeez, you know, this- Yes, smacking their lips. This is no good. I mean, we can't, look, can we tear two of these old buildings down maybe and build something? No.

Starting point is 00:22:14 So here's- Okay, okay, fine, fine, fine. And I think that may account for the fact that, well, I don't know if it did anybody any good not to warn anybody because they weren't going to stop the fire anyway, but there was no mitigation whatsoever. They're on the water.

Starting point is 00:22:30 One tank, one pumper boat. Listen, Dame Jessie, boots on the ground. Fire started in the morning. She's there in Maui. Fire department claimed it to be 100% contained and left with the huge winds blowing. I drove the road where it restarted around noon and there was no fire at the time. Anonymously, my husband, oh, okay. So anonymously, I can't say that, I guess.

Starting point is 00:22:57 Let's just say there was a water truck sent to the site that was turned back. She feels this whole apocalypse of Maui could have been completely avoided and there will be big lawsuits the older fire chiefs all retired in the last couple of years and the new ones are all budget conscious to one water truck which might have cost a couple thousand dollars would have stopped this so i'm thinking that exactly john that you know it's like you know it's time to redevelop this thing now did they consider that this was like a box of matches that it would just go up like that and i can imagine that if the ground is dry and it's all wooden structures all built next to each other that can go go fast. Fire can go very fast. Especially with old wooden buildings.

Starting point is 00:23:47 And so I'm thinking... And that first note about the buildings being a bunch of old, you know, pieces of junk, basically, ready to go at the drop of a hat, that town could have burned to the ground at any time. And I'm thinking that because it came so quickly and you saw the laser beams from the sky pictures everywhere which turns out to be a time-lapse launch from a of a rocket from vandenberg i think i i have half a mind now that this was launched into the ether just to you know to to

Starting point is 00:24:19 put it out oh that's a crazy conspiracy theory about the elites wanting it to burn to the ground, where they probably did. But let's just throw some directed energy weapon stuff into the mix, and then everyone will say it's a conspiracy theory and won't have to talk about it anymore. I think there's like $1.7 billion worth of tourism in that town. It's 1.3 to 7. I can't remember the exact number. Yeah, it's a lot. Which is about something like a lot of Hawaii's total tourist industry.

Starting point is 00:24:48 So it's over a billion dollars in tourism in that island. Yeah. They figure they can double that if they get rid of it, if they rebuild it. Yes. What modern tourists want. Modern tourists are not like you and I who maybe really do like going through old- Walking around an old town. Yeah, of course we love that no modern tourists they like they don't mind if it's a little slicker a little nicer a little more like Disneyland right exactly and I think that they this is this is not

Starting point is 00:25:19 they'll never this is unsolvable as a mystery it's just you can't find the guy to match. Well, according to Dustin, it was the winds that blew. It happens every single year except this year. They didn't stop it. They said they had it contained and they didn't. And they weren't prepared. It could be a confluence of idiots. That's always possible.

Starting point is 00:25:44 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And believe me, I'm the first guy to want it to be a directed energy weapon. You know that. And I'm looking at these pictures like, oh, no. And then they have the green lasers from space that happened just a few weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:02 That's a good one. Well, the green lasers from space. They were measuring stuff. That's probably true. I don't have any clips from the Maui story. weeks ago yeah yeah that's a good one well the green laser from space you know they are they were measuring stuff that's that's probably i don't have any clips from the maui store i think we beat it up there i think that's that covers us pretty much but i do have since you're talking about crazy stuff i have to i'm bringing these clips and these are clips that are they're they're almost a month old but but they're they're uh a're, uh, Alex Jones, Jones clips. And the reason I'm bringing them up because I just want to make a point to people out there who are podcasters or

Starting point is 00:26:33 podcast wannabes, or everyone has a podcast. This is not Alex on his show. This is Alex on that show, that value attainment group, you know, uh, pet, pet Patrick Oh, Patrick, Patrick Davis, what is it? Yeah, and he's got three guys, and it's a well-produced show in terms of the quality of the sound, that's for sure. Patrick Davis, that's it. But the reason I want to play this is because I have to say,

Starting point is 00:26:59 we don't play Alex Jones clips much, but when he goes on somebody... And we don't play them enough! When he goes on somebody else's show yeah he brings it yes he does and he does it on rogan he wherever he goes that people should you know they go you're right alex jones no you should bring him on and here's the i've got three clips and these clips are just unbelievable let's start with aj on on biden uh yeah i think hold on a second aj on biden sorry here we go they're getting ready to take out the garbage with biden i think they'll probably kill him or he'll die to sleep or he'll fall down some stairs fall down some stairs or or be you know drugged or whatever or at least be in a coma very soon and i've got

Starting point is 00:27:46 very high level sources that are they're got people dug in the democratic party roger stone's totally dialed in he was on my show yesterday and he said they're crazy enough that they're thinking this is what democrats are saying right now okay big mike michelle obama and hey that's my line and then vp newsom or Newsom. But Obama is, he's the real president right now, third term elected. We have a video. He's now coming back out and saying, oh, I'm involved now. So yeah, they're getting ready to get rid of Biden.

Starting point is 00:28:16 That's the only reason. Those reporters are all on a leash. None of them will ever ask a question for the two and a half years. Suddenly they're all attacking. It's because they've been let off the leash because Biden was supposed to, like he said right before he i love it how this guy's going yep yep yeah yeah right on yeah won the election remember he said well if i don't do what i'm told i'll probably just develop some weird disease and and resign remember that quote yep he said it multiple times letting them know hey i'm your man man. Well, his brain was still there.

Starting point is 00:28:45 Remember the deals then. But according to Roger Stone and other sources, and Roger's dead on, he talks to some of the high-level Democrats. Bullshit. Jill Biden is telling him, don't leave. She likes the power, and he's told them, F off. All right, hold on now. Before you move on with the AJ clips, Tina and I were just discussing a new version of my theory. Now I wasn't even going to bring this up,

Starting point is 00:29:08 but now I need to bring it up because what I'm seeing ever since, hold on, let me laugh first. You're going to love this. You're going to love this. Now I agree with Alex Jones. Biden is, no,

Starting point is 00:29:21 wait, you got to say, yep. Yeah. Biden's toast. Yep. He's out. So, I mean, they've got this special council. I'm sure you have clips. You got to say yep. Biden's toast. He's out. They've got the special counsel. I'm sure you have clips.

Starting point is 00:29:29 I got clips. We got the special counsel. I got that. What's happening is this Obama gay thing is catching fire. The Telegraph. This book that's been out forever. Now all of a sudden it's like. This is not news.

Starting point is 00:29:44 It's not news for us. In fact, don't you remember this? Newsweek actually came out with an edition of Newsweek that said our first gay president with a picture of Obama. Yes. But wait, because I'm adjusting my theory. I think that the Democratic Party, who the heck knows who's running what? I think we have multiple factions inside the Democratic Party, who the heck knows who's running what? I think we have multiple factions inside the Democratic Party.

Starting point is 00:30:07 And there's the crazy trans-Maoist faction. You know, the ones who have three trans kids. And they've all gotten together and said, this is our chance. This is it. We've got to ease America into it. We've got to let them know Obama's gay. And then boom, Big Mike 2024, first trans black president. This was a logical conclusion that I knew you would draw. Well, there it is. I'm just putting it out there. Okay. It's out there. It's out there. It's

Starting point is 00:30:40 on the record. At first, I thought they were trying to thwart michelle obama by saying that by creating controversy around her husband but now i'm these people are crazy they'll do it listen well we know that who knew it would happen who knew it would be locked down who knew we would have thousands of children being sterilized i anything's on the table for me well i with the thousands of kids being sterilized i anything's on the table for me well i with the thousands of kids being sterilized that's pretty interesting and it's all right now i'm gonna we're gonna skip biden too for an hour that's the last clip you now because aj still bringing it so here he is on trump uh yeah i think they'll i mean i think they're gonna demonize him and dot him and dot him and dot him and dot him. And then I think they'll blow his airplane up.

Starting point is 00:31:25 I really at a gut level. Oh, wow. Trump. I mean, I believe the deep state establishment will murder him. I mean, I believe he's going to steadfast go through all this. He'll be he'll be 30 points ahead in the primaries. Nothing's going to stop him. And then they just he dies of a heart attack or they poison or they blow his airplane up.

Starting point is 00:31:44 The pricker. The pricker. The pricker. The airline, blowing up the airplane is messy. Yeah. That's messy. I'm just saying, this is just AJ on somebody else's show, and he just goes nuts. And I just thought this clip had to be clipped. This is the last of the three.

Starting point is 00:32:02 And it, I just, this is a head shaker and just hilarious. I was told by the NYPD and Secret Service a year and a half ago, when he went, remember he kept showing up late and changing clothes like three times? That when he gets mad, when he goes in these weird, because they get him on speed and a bunch of stuff to roll him out and hope it's okay and it's not now. But when he gets mad, he takes a big dump in his drawers. I'm serious, okay? You've got him saying my butt's been wiped. It's not now. But when he gets mad, he takes a big dump in his drawers. I'm serious. Okay.

Starting point is 00:32:26 You've got him saying my butt's been wiped. So that goes on. He did say it. Can we fact check? Fact check. Fact check. Okay. He brings it.

Starting point is 00:32:38 But this is, all right, I wasn't going to do this until maybe second half of show. But this is going to bring, this kind of talk is putting all of us in danger, in grave danger. Because now we have the Southern Poverty Law Center going after podcasts. At first, it was just a little, you know, a little. Oh, those lunatics. Yeah, but this is new now because now there's this outfit called Tech Against Terrorism. It's an NGO. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:33:11 It's an NGO funded by the United Nations, our own money. And the most recent episode is about podcasts. is about podcasts. Podcasts are really used by terrorists and extremists to recruit and plan horrible things. And when you listen, well, I have a couple of short clips. When you listen to it, I think everyone's in danger. This week, we're discussing the use of podcasts by extremist actors, a growing and concerning trend. Concerning. Over the last 10 years or so,

Starting point is 00:33:48 extremists have increasingly been leveraging podcasts as a platform to spread their messages, recruit followers, and network with like-minded individuals. Extremist groups and networks on the far right have developed an alternative media ecosystem that is reinforcing and normalizing hateful ideologies, fringe ideas, and conspiracy theories. And the ease of creating and distributing audio content has allowed these actors to regularly produce material that reaches a global audience and amplifies their extremist worldviews. Now, raise your hand whenever you feel they're talking about No Agenda, No Agenda Nation, NoAgendaSocial.com. Anytime you feel that that might're talking about no agenda no agenda nation uh noagendasocial.com anytime you feel that that might be talking about us let's talk about the scope of this research they have done

Starting point is 00:34:32 with the splc the southern poverty law center lady california regulators have oops that's not the right one i'm sorry should be this one most of the podcasts that we studied were produced by organized groups, although some were not. We tried to pick a mix, right? And then some of them were individual vehicles. But even those podcasts tended to have recurring guests or co-hosts that they would bring in as kind of semi-regular cast members, I guess. And then ideologically, we again tried to pick a mix of the different flavors of hate and extremism. So there were some... Different flavors of hate and extremism. Neo-Confederate podcasts, there were some neo-Nazi podcasts. We had a variety of what used to be called the alt-right podcasts. Yeah,, just a big mix there. Some anti-government style podcasts. We had about 18 that we studied, and there were, oh gosh, I want to say 900 and some different cast members across those podcasts and several thousand episodes that they produced over a 14-year period. Who's that?

Starting point is 00:35:44 This is the Southern Law Center lady. No, no, I'm saying who is the… that they produced over a 14-year period. Who's that? This is the Southern Law Center lady. No, no, I'm saying who is the... Dude, they've got a map. They've got like a map, a huge... She said there was 1,400 episodes and there were thousands of guests. That's not us, by the way. Cast members.

Starting point is 00:36:02 Yeah, there's no doubt about it. They're not talking about us when they're talking about cast members except for the two of us. Alright, okay. Alright. Well, back it up a little bit because I want to hear that part again because I want to know what podcast

Starting point is 00:36:17 she's talking about. Let's move forward and you'll start hearing it. I turn to Megan to learn what it is about podcasts specifically that makes them a useful communication tool for extremists. Mind you, alt-right, I mean, we are not named specifically and they only have a couple of like, not even, they're not even doing

Starting point is 00:36:34 Steve Bannon at this point, but they have a map with all kinds of dots and how they're all connected. Hey, I've been on the Alex Jones podcast. You have? Believe me, we're connected to this group. We're connected.

Starting point is 00:36:48 Well, there's a, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen. They're very low cost to produce. So you basically just need a microphone and some recording software. Oh. You can throw the file up and it'll get scooped up. Hopefully. Just throw it up.

Starting point is 00:37:02 Throw it up in the air. Just throw the file up and you're good to go. You know, but different podcast catchers and then distributed to a pretty wide audience. Pretty wide. It's cross-platform, low skill, and wide distribution. Those are pretty magical features if you're, you know, if you're trying to promote hateful ideas. Low skill's not a feature. But also, we made it that way so everybody can podcast, lady. That was the whole point. There's also a variety of different platforms that they can live on.

Starting point is 00:37:32 So you're not sort of hitching your wagon just to Spotify or just to Apple Podcasts. There's a wider distribution network. And this is helpful if you're trying to stay under the radar of one or not get content moderated right like you stop stop it for one second i have to interrupt yeah so just know these people are dangerous i just want you to know these people are no i we they've been dangerous for a long time yeah but let's let's stop for a second what was the year that you'd say what was your first what year was the podcast first implemented i would say let's say the first uh during your uh source code era 2003 in fact 2003 hold on 20 wait a minute no but

Starting point is 00:38:16 this important to note that's when we started but the first official daily source code was launched on August 13th today in 2004, but the, the experimentation was already happening in 2003. Okay. Well, it started, I'm going to go with the 2003 cause it's a round number cause it's 2023.

Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah. But okay. Let's say 2004. So 19 years have passed with millions of people putting up podcasts and all of a sudden after almost let's say almost 20 years they do this well you have to understand first these people are morons and dangers so they are just now discovering that podcasts aren't only on Spotify and Apple. They're like, holy moly, there's people flying. Look, there's a podcast that is outside of here.

Starting point is 00:39:19 People are flying under the radar with this stuff, with wide distribution. They just throw a file up in the air and boom, thousands of people have it. Pitching your wagon just to Spotify or just Apple Podcasts. There's a wider distribution network. And this is helpful if you're trying to stay under the radar of one or not get content moderated, right? Like if you're just on YouTube or you're just on. Yeah. People have like their own networks in there and they have their own cast members, also known as producers, who are hosting these files. And it's outside of Apple and Spotify. Come on, John. Hear what the lady's saying. Twitch or something streaming. You're beholden to that platform to kick you off.

Starting point is 00:40:01 Podcasts are a little looser. So you control the file and how it gets recorded. And then from there it gets distributed more broadly. So they're actually golly gee whiz. Come on, come on now. So they're actually, you know, turns out to be a pretty effective means of building community and spreading propaganda. Yes. Propag propaganda and community. Now, what kind of people are this? What kind of individuals are these under the radar podcasts? What kind of podcasts are these?

Starting point is 00:40:35 What's going on with this? I asked Megan about the ideologies promoted on these extremist podcasts and the audience they attract. You have to stop it again one time. Because this is so ridiculous. Who is this other woman? Where did you get this? This is the Tech Against Terrorism show.

Starting point is 00:40:54 And it's from an NGO named Tech Against Terrorism, which is... Which is a podcast, ironically. Well, they have a podcast. Been around for a while um you know really ever since 2016 i would say this is british chick well she's the host of the show okay and so she has two people on from the southern poverty law center that's the other lady and then you'll hear some douchebag dude so now she's going to go into what kind of podcasts are these who are these these shadowy figures who don't want to be on Spotify or Apple?

Starting point is 00:41:29 I asked Megan about the ideologies promoted on these extremists. What ideologies do they have? What ideologies do these extremists have? Extremist podcasts and the audience they attract. There were religious-based podcasts. There was one that we looked at that was... Oh, no! Man, I picked a fine time to be born again religious space podcast was one that we looked at that was uh orthodox christian oh no podcast

Starting point is 00:41:55 oh no orthodox christian were there russians ukrainians who are these orthodox christians there's a bunch of these i've do know that I know Godcasters. I mean, a lot of Godcasters in my orbit. There was one that we looked at that was a neo-Confederate, you know, the South will rise again. Actually, we had at least two of those in the set. That was an alt-right podcast that was primarily panels talking about the news. There was a neo-Nazi podcast that had a radio shock jock format. There was a podcast that attempted to do comedy, and each of the guests, or hosts rather, would have these recurring characters that they would play that were either racist

Starting point is 00:42:45 stereotypes and tropes. Hey, I'm Zippy. I'm a racist. Or that kind of thing, trying to be funny. I mean, really. Trying to be funny. Sounds like us. Yeah, like with the Dana Carvey podcast, trying to be funny.

Starting point is 00:42:58 Idiot. Quite a variety of different styles. And it was a lot. In generalities, I would say it's mostly a male audience right and just like the groups that we're studying in the in the movements that we're studying are typically male although i've written extensively and others have too on women in these movements but it is typically male and then depending on she ever listened to Sophia with an F? She's not an extremist. Or Call Her Daddy or any of these thousands of female-based podcasts? They're not the extremists.

Starting point is 00:43:32 You never listen to them. Extensively, and others have too, on women in these movements, but it is typically male. And then depending on the podcast and depending on the ideology that that podcast is promoting, some of them trend younger and some of them trend older. It really just it really just depends. And then there's some that fall right in the middle and have a truly mixed audience. So, yeah, mostly male, mostly white. That's probably not surprising. Most of the podcasts that we've chose for this sample were largely white supremacist, you know, white nationalist, white supremacist style podcasts.

Starting point is 00:44:07 So that is surprising that they they trended white and male and the ages were mixed. White and male, old and younger. Dude, we're in the sweet spot of this thing. It's beautiful. Now, as I said, they've discovered they've discovered. We're not younger. We're in the've discovered. We're not younger. We're in the sweet spot. We're in the sweet spot.

Starting point is 00:44:28 They've discovered that, you know, how does this work? How did they get around the content moderation? They're friends at Spotify. They're friends at Apple. Oh, how is this being done? I think this is the dude now who comes in. How are streamers' podcasts distributed across the Internet? How are they distributed across the Internet if they're not working with big tech, which we can then censor?

Starting point is 00:44:48 I asked Bjorn. So it really varies. Some of the podcasts are like openly distributed through like the main distribution services, wherever you find your podcasts. Oh, no. If you say wherever you find your podcast, you might be an extremist. People keep saying in podcasts, the problem of podcasts, is that you don't have to distribute them through a service like that. Like making it impossible to.

Starting point is 00:45:14 What? This guy. OK, he's very affected. Service like that, like making it impossible to distribute certain podcasts through those services is certainly good in terms of like lowering the amount of detection. But we're not being detected. Podcasts are largely kind of distributed through RSS feeds and anyone with a computer can set up an RSS feed. And that's the point to spread their podcast three more subversive ways um and so he says subversive subversive so if you just distribute via rss that's subversive that's more subversive subversive you know what he means more subversive ways um and so

Starting point is 00:46:03 like as we're talking about also content moderation and the Fediverse and more kind of distributed and federated. Oh, Fediverse. The Fediverse. Hello, No Agenda Social. Moderation and the Fediverse and more kind of distributed and federated services. The syndication model.

Starting point is 00:46:20 Are these people living under a rock? No, they're living on $100 million of Southern Poverty Law Center money. That pile is so heavy, they can't see the RSS through the dollars. The syndication model of podcasts being distributed through RSS feeds is really an interesting case study as well in preparation for that. Because of the way in which it's really left up to the control of the individual they have no control no they have they can't the individual can control something this is this is what they hate they hate that we are doing this ourselves i'm not going to say they're targeting you i'm just going to stop stop i'm going to stop i don't i'm not going to say they're targeting us specifically. I'm just going to stop. Stop. I'm going to stop. I'm not giving you a clip of the day for this crap.

Starting point is 00:47:08 But I am going to find a way to nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize for Podcasting 2.0. So that can lock me up? You think I'm joking? No, but why do I deserve the – I mean, I want the Peace Prize. It would be nice. But how do I – why am I deserving of this? Because Podcasting 2.0 foresaw Declips Your Playing right now and created a secondary kind of a backup system

Starting point is 00:47:39 to protect podcasting for the rest of the days. Yes, extremist terrorist outfit. Well, you get, well, you know, that's up to people. If people want to find extremist stuff, they'll find it. This got nothing to do with podcasting 2.0 or anything else. No, of course not. Well, they are, however, they, you know, they, they, it's a big problem for this, even though they have hundreds of millions of dollars, it's a real big problem detecting all of these things because,

Starting point is 00:48:08 you know, it's a lot of podcasts. You have to, you got to sift through thousands of episodes, but audio detection software has largely been focused on music because, uh, copyright enforcement. And so there are elements of,

Starting point is 00:48:21 of software that are, that is useful for that and could be used for things like automatic detection of jingles. And from a tech perspective, discovering what people are actually saying in audio content is a challenge. So it's still a challenge, even though Podcasting 2.0 literally has made it so that you can now go to bingit.io and you can search the transcripts of every single episode we've ever done oh man so support us now people for our legal fund my goodness goodness. They're nuts. These people are nuts. They cannot stand that anyone is using the internet.

Starting point is 00:49:11 No, it's anyone. Anyone. That's why I said anyone. That any single person. And like the clip was, who doesn't have a podcast? Yes. That's not something that you want. You don't want everybody having a voice or having the ability to be heard. No, they...

Starting point is 00:49:30 Too noisy. But what I'm hearing here is they are, they're just discovering because of that very big pile of money they're living under, that there's this whole ecosystem that's been around for, they think, 14 years, but okay, we'll give them that. 20 years. That exists on RSS. We thought Google had done away with that a long time ago when they closed Google Reader, but oh no, turns out these extremists are still using this to distribute their, their hateful hate.

Starting point is 00:50:06 Hey, just hate, just hate. And we can't, we, we, we need to stop them. They need to be moderated somehow. Moderation. Yeah. Well, that brings me to January 6th, January 6th. Yeah. I just. Just a cursory thing. I probably should do an essay on this, but a couple of conservative writers had written up a – actually, professors had written up that Trump really has an issue with this. Because it makes sense when I read their essays about how it's in the constitution that if you take part in an insurrection you are unqualified you can't run for president right and

Starting point is 00:50:54 all these indictments and all this bullcrap is really this all a smokescreen for the real indictment which is the january 6th. And the fact that from day one, from day one, there was a comment. And I remember when this January 6th happened, you and I said, well, I watched it on C-SPAN. There wasn't anything going on.

Starting point is 00:51:21 It was a creation. It was worse than 9-11. It was worse than Pearl Harbor. Worse than 9-11 and all the rest of it. So that brings me, and so I'm thinking that this is a last-ditch attempt to keep Trump from running and it's all based on him

Starting point is 00:51:37 being an insurrectionist, even though I've got lots of thoughts on this. Can I tell you what Tina's theory was on this? Because she's way into this. She's always saying, I hate this, by the way, Lots of thoughts on this. Can I tell you what Tina's theory was on this? Because she's way into this. Yeah. She's always saying, I hate this. By the way, she's a white supremacist. She's the problem.

Starting point is 00:51:52 Southern Poverty Law Center, she's the one. She's the mastermind behind the No Agenda Show. So she's always looking at how there's still people locked up for the you know for trespassing in essence but they're trying to get them on one of the one of the two trump charges which is um uh thwarting or interrupting or trying to stop a process in senate which is you know that's an insurrectionist thing and so they're trying from what she says what thing. And so they're trying, from what she says, what I think is reasonable, they're trying to convict some poor people like 65 and 68 years old of this one particular crime, which is interceding, I can't forget the exact term, in a governmental process,

Starting point is 00:52:42 which would be the exact process. It's one of Trump's charges. Yeah, that's one of his charges. And if they convict those people, then they'll have a case law to convict Trump. This is a long way, but okay, good luck with that. I'm just saying. So let's listen to these clips. This is the Epoch Times, January.

Starting point is 00:53:04 The Epoch Times ended up grabbing, getting a hold of those same tapes that Tucker Carlson tried to show. He showed them for one day of his show and then got fired. This is the guy who was running the Capitol Police. That's coming. That's the last of these clips. Let's start with Epoch Times 1. shows the disabling of Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick. He died the day after the protest at the Capitol. The cause of death was two strokes. Federal prosecutors charged two men with assaulting Sicknick with pepper spray,

Starting point is 00:53:53 one of whom was Julian L.E. Cater. In this video, you can see a police commander firing numerous bursts of pepper spray from a high-velocity tank. The video shows the spray passing by the left side of Sicknick's face, after which he turns away and leaves the area, while Cater still appears to be some distance away. Cater's father said they never saw this video before. The Epoch Times showed it to them, saying they withheld this big time.

Starting point is 00:54:18 Since it is in Washington, D.C., everything is stacked against the January Sixers. Oh, yes. And yeah, he showed him one time. Didn't really show all the even these good bits. I don't recall Tucker showing. No, Tucker never got the chance to show anything. He showed he had one down after one episode, one episode. And then when he by the time he's going to get to this will be covered.

Starting point is 00:54:44 We'll get to the police guy because I have a clip of him special. But let's go to clip two. Another clip involves the Oath Keepers. Their founder, Elmer Stewart Rhodes III, was in court, partly for allegedly initiating a phone call to provide instructions on how to attack the Capitol. Defense attorneys at the time argued the call never happened. Video now shows Rhodes appeared to be attempting to make cell phone calls, but not having success. The entire documentary, which includes much more new information on January 6th, is now online on EpochTV.com.

Starting point is 00:55:16 Ooh, ooh, have you seen the whole thing? No, all these things are so long. I haven't seen the whole interview with the police guy either, but I didn't have to. But let's go to clip three. And this is the one that triggered me to get clip four, which is named differently. Also on Friday, Tucker Carlson published an interview with Stephen Sund, the former chief of the Capitol Police. Carlson had already interviewed Sund while Carlson was still with Fox News. However, the day the interview was supposed to air,

Starting point is 00:55:45 Carlson was fired and Fox never published it. So Carlson interviewed him again. Sund says days before January 6th, the U.S. military was well aware of possible violence on the day of the protest, but then changed course all of a sudden. Watch. On Sunday and Monday, they had been discussing locking down the city, revoking permits on Capitol Hill because of the concern for violence.

Starting point is 00:56:08 Instead, on January 4th, what does Miller do? He puts out a memo restricting the National Guard from carrying the various weapons, any weapons, any civil disobedience equipment that would be utilized for the very demonstrations or violence that he sees coming. It just doesn't make any sense. Sund also says he was among the only ones who was not notified about the expected violence. Yeah. This was a setup. Well,

Starting point is 00:56:33 it's interesting to me. And I, and the last clip is, is, well, I'll play the last clip. Then I'll say what I think, but this is the Steven Sund summary.

Starting point is 00:56:43 Now here, this is a minute and here's the, here's the preface to this, the setup. He sits the guy down and talks to him for 55 minutes. And luckily he's got a producer now that took the kind of the nuts out of the 55 minutes and put it at the beginning. So it's been produced. Yeah. And the beginning has little snippets of really what's what's important because who needs the 55 minutes and tucker i've noticed is starting to go long with these interviews he sits somebody down and he starts talking long and this is a problem when you're not you know you're not confined by a network tv or anything where you got a segment

Starting point is 00:57:22 you got a b block you got a c block, you got a C block. Yes. He's not Joe Rogan. Right. He's not Joe Rogan. And, uh, and, and Rogan, you know, it goes naturally long, but this room, I'm reminded of writers just as an aside that Glenn Greenwald, Glenn Greenwald is a perfect example. When writers, when the internet first came along, I knew a lot of guys who would, you'd write in print. If you wrote in a newspaper in particular, newspapers designed to be top-down written. So you write all the important stuff at the beginning, it gets more and more less important. So you can just chop it, you chop, chop, chop it so you can fit it into a space. to a space. And but news magazine writers would have a certain amount of words you can produce. But once the Internet showed up and they could write online, some of these guys just didn't know how to stop. Yeah, they would go on and on. And Tucker is falling into this category. Agreed. So

Starting point is 00:58:18 luckily, he's got a producer who took the snippets and put them all at the beginning. And here they are. You've described this as an intelligence failure, but a failure is something that happens accidentally. None of the intelligence that was coming up talking about the storming of the Capitol, killing members of Congress, or killing my police officers was ever discussed at the conference calls that I was on, at least. That doesn't seem to make sense at all. It doesn't make sense. I'm looking at my men and women having their asses handed to them, and my first thought was, fuck it, I will take whatever discipline there is. Once things got out of control, for 71 minutes, Pelosi refused to allow you to bring in the National Guard.

Starting point is 00:58:51 Why don't we have answers? It doesn't seem like people really want to get to the bottom of it. And it gets worse from there. I had a conference call with the leaders of all the law enforcement. It was a call I coordinated. Not one person on that call talked about any concerns for the intelligence, the attack on the Capitol, that we were seeing that was out there. That's what's scary. This sounds like a setup to me. I'm sorry. It does. New Jersey State Police beat D.C. National Guard to the Capitol. Wait, cops drove from New Jersey before the National

Starting point is 00:59:20 Guard could get from the armory on Capitol Hill to the Capitol. Why isn't this story everywhere? I have no idea. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Well, you know what? There's some self-awareness there. At least he's got a producer that knows what he's doing. Yeah, that's good because he's going to need it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:36 Now, my thoughts on this are interesting because the reasons for firing Tucker are always blamed nowadays are blamed on dominion dominion demanded as part of the settlement which was a ridiculous settlement to begin with by the way make any pushed by a lot of prominent podcasters including megan kelly and a whole bunch of other people all saying this is it was because of this and because of Dominion, and we never bought into that. It's fishy because the whole Dominion lawsuit is fishy and the settlement is fishy. When a company like News Corp could stall a proceeding like that to infinity, they could do it if they wanted to. You don't just roll over for a billion dollars. It doesn't make any sense.

Starting point is 01:00:24 And whether there was even any injury, it doesn't make any sense and whether there was even any injury it doesn't make any sense and so that to blame tucker's firing on dominion demanding it i think it's this guy this interview plus the videotapes that tucker was starting to roll out was ruining the great plot to get rid of trump through this insurrection rule statement that's in the constitution. And Fox was in on it because Murdoch never wanted Trump to be president. No. And the Murdochs nowadays are all a bunch of Democrats.

Starting point is 01:00:55 Well, like you'd like to say the whole always was Democrat run. And so, so, so Tucker was ousted. And so Tucker couldn't even get this interview back. They never showed it. So he went and re-interviewed the guy.

Starting point is 01:01:09 Yeah, there you go. Which is like, hey, they didn't expect that, did they? Yeah. Well. This really stinks. So we need to reiterate that this was, it was protection, and they had it set up a long time in advance. You know, they had all the National Guard and the fences

Starting point is 01:01:30 and everything and it was all set and I'm now even thinking that they even had the camera angles all set when you kind of think back about the televised event that it was. Yeah, because you never saw that on C-SPAN. No, no, no. They had, they were all set for it and I think they were just two or three minutes away from a constitutional procedure where we say, hey, hold on a second.

Starting point is 01:01:50 Let's take a vote on these alternate slate of electors, which has happened, which I think it happens almost every election. But this election and Pence was clearly co-opted into it. And Barr, I mean, Trump, great great at firing people very bad at hiring people and and and you're right this is a last ditch effort but it was set up very very carefully and now they're going to you know do use a couple of these poor saps as examples to get this one particular type of conviction and then the laughable part of, you know, Trump was directing people to do that. He was telling them to go commit violence, which exactly the opposite is true.

Starting point is 01:02:33 In fact, he said, peacefully, within your patriotic protest, I think he said. And, you know, maybe in in three years everyone will come around and we'll all recognize what really happened what is out there and i thought this was pretty good i'll play this a super cut of the mainly democrats uh politicians but also democrat party supporters calling for violence against Trump when he was president. And this is from the 2016 era. I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country.

Starting point is 01:03:12 Maybe there will be. There needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives. You've got to be ready to throw a punch. You have to be ready to throw a punch. Donald Trump, I think you need to go back and punch him in the face. I thought he should have punched him in the face. I feel like punching him. I'd like to take him behind the gym if I were in high school.

Starting point is 01:03:30 If you were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him. No, I wish you were in high school. I could take him behind the gym. I will go and take Trump out tonight. Take him out now. When was the last time an actor assassinated a president? They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump. Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful. And you put bags on them and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere.

Starting point is 01:03:56 I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. Please, get up in the face of some Congress people. People will do what they do. I want to tell you, Lord Dutch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. We're going to go in there, we're going to...

Starting point is 01:04:19 This is just a warning to you Trumpers. Be careful. Walk lightly. And for those of you who are soldiers, make them pay. If you had to be stuck in an elevator with either President Trump, Mike Pence, or Jeff Sessions, who would it be? Does one of us have to come out alive? Yeah, some memorable moments in there. Yeah that's that by the way is political speech it's all good political free speech even though they're being very violent calling calling for

Starting point is 01:04:55 violence etc this was another little thing i want to add to this idea that this is you know all about the insurrection they try to set trump up for that. He's then he did say peaceful is the is the bull crap story about him wanting to go to the Capitol and the Secret Service guys refusing him to take him there. I think the Secret Service guys have been on his side all along. And if and I brought this up in the newsletter, which is a question, that's just like I should have brought up in the last show, which is with this guy that they shot, the Trump guy they shot, the FBI shot because he was threatening Biden. Why is the FBI investigating this? Isn't this supposed to be the Secret Service? What's the FBI got to do with it? One of our producers emailed me that he has a friend who works at the Secret Service.

Starting point is 01:05:46 And he asked this exact question. And he said, I don't know. You should ask them. I'm wanting some answer like that. So, yeah, there's a lot of things wrong. I love this. A lot of things wrong. Yeah, I guess that's one way of putting it.

Starting point is 01:06:02 Listen to this Newsmax, what they're now doing. Newsmax. They're so afraid of getting deplatformed themselves. And that they allowed that to happen. And that the media doesn't want anybody to talk about it. We just have to make sure they don't cheat on the elections. Because that's the question I get more. Sir, will they do it again? Will they cheat again? We're not going to let them.

Starting point is 01:06:22 I believe I won that election by many, many votes, many, many hundreds of thousands of votes. That's what I think. Just a note, Newsmax has accepted the election results as legal and final. Just a note, we have accepted the results as legal and final. Yeah, because they have to disclaim everything now. Otherwise, you know, they get in trouble. Because they have to disclaim everything now. Otherwise, you know, they get in trouble.

Starting point is 01:06:45 Well, okay. So you're no agenda show producers out there, which is truly your show because you give us as much information as you possibly can. We've been ahead of these types of stories and we called the panic around COVID that we called that bull crap. And certainly, I think a lot of people came to the show and felt a lot calmer during this whole period, which was a version of mass MKUltra traumatizing not just Americans, but the entire world. And it's still being used and now we are three years later working on the is it the full third year yeah no yeah three almost four three full years and now oh yes but now people are figuring it out oh okay here's the money honey with senator ron johnson they finally figured it out figured it out. It's just extraordinary to me that, you know, the government was working with social media to amplify lies and suppress truth and has been doing so repeatedly. Why couldn't the American people know that, you know, there were other alternatives to treat COVID?

Starting point is 01:08:01 Why can't the American people know that there were side effects with the vaccine? This is all pre-planned by an elite group of people. That's what I'm talking about. Event 201 that occurred in late 2019 prior to the rest of us knowing about this pandemic. Again, this is very concerning in terms of what has happened, what is happening, what continues to be planned for our loss of freedom. Again, it needs to be spoke. There's Maria Bartiromo. Oh, yeah, I see it now. But unfortunately, there are very few people. It's better than yup. Not much. People even in Congress are willing to take a look at this. They all push the vaccine. They don't want to be made aware of the fact that the vaccines might have caused injuries, might have caused death.

Starting point is 01:08:47 So many people just simply don't want to admit they were wrong and they're going to do everything they can to make sure that they're not proven wrong. We're up against a very powerful group of people here, Maria. But, you know, fortunately, you say, what can we do? Well, we do have reporters like yourself, like John Solomon, other people that have the courage to report the truth against the mainstream media and against the narrative. But that's the only way this is going to be solved is we need the truth to be exposed. We need more Americans to listen to the truth, to be exposed to the truth, to pull their heads out of the sand, quite honestly, open up their eyes and understand what is happening in this country. We are going down a very dangerous path. But as the path is being laid out and planned by the elite. Hello. Hello, Senator. Hello, Senator.

Starting point is 01:09:31 We're going down the dangerous path. Take the calendar. Total control over our lives. And that's what they're doing bit by bit. They do it by increasing massive government spending, increasing the size of government, takeover of the WHO. These amendments that are coming up that are going to be voted on in 2024 on the WHO are frightening. And they really risk taking away all of our sovereignty. But people have to awaken to the dangers of the moment.

Starting point is 01:09:59 So now we have the big walkback. And this is important because it's happening. One of our producers even pointed something out to us that we we barely caught the big walk back is taking place now and we have to pay attention to it and and i and we will certainly highlight it whenever we catch it so the first thing is taking place is the fda gets hauled into court doctors are suing the fda because they lost their practice they've lost their license they've lost their careers because they prescribed oh horrors they prescribed ivermectin as you as you said on the previous episode uh about the the the horse the pbs

Starting point is 01:10:39 showed the horse show where they showed the horse uh because because people were taking a horse show where they showed the horse because because people were taking a horse ivermectin some actually were because you couldn't get uh ivermectin in pill form uh doctors were pharmacies were not not allowed to prescribe it we're not allowed to um to fill prescriptions doctors that prescribed it were getting even if the on. Yeah, even if the doctor prescribed it, I've talked to pharmacists, even if a doctor prescribed it, the pharmacy couldn't fill it. So just a two-minute clip from this hearing, and you have the judge, you're going to hear the millennial, nothing against millennials, but just it's notable. This doesn't sound like a seasoned lawyer who was defending the FDA

Starting point is 01:11:24 because the FDA was tweeting, stop it, stop it, stop, stop taking ivermectin, stop prescribing ivermectin. And these doctors said, well, you know, you said stop it. And it was very clear in your directives. And now they're walking it back saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're misunderstanding what we were saying. I love, by the way, I love this one because I think it's in here. They said it was a quip. Quippy.

Starting point is 01:11:56 And may it please the court. Ashley Honnold for the United States. This case is about informational statements made by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to inform consumers about the dangers of using certain drugs. They made these statements in response to multiple reports of consumers being hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses, which is available for purchase over the counter without the need for a prescription.

Starting point is 01:12:29 You see how this is just not true. It was in fact CNN mainly who accused Joe Rogan of taking horse medicine. And you remember he had Gupta. Yes, he had Gupta uh gupta uh what's his yes he had gupta why were you lying i had regular ivermectin which was just the pill form for humans and you kept saying i was taking horse paste uh well so now they're they're lying they're lying because now they say oh no that was because people were taking horse medication.

Starting point is 01:13:05 FDA did not purport to require anyone to do anything or to prohibit anyone from doing it. What about when it said, no, stop it? That's the judge. Why is that a command? That seems to me, if you were in English class, they would say that was a command, stop it. That is different than we're providing helpful information. Your Honor, the language that the FDA used in these tweets were merely quips, and I don't think that these quips changed the substance of FDA statements. As plaintiffs can see...

Starting point is 01:13:43 Is that a command? Stop it? The tweets about the horse ivermectin were intended to advise consumers that they should not use ivermectin intended for animals and that this could be unsafe. I'm sorry, can you answer the question, please? Is that a command? Stop it. Your Honor, in some contexts, those words could be construed as a command.

Starting point is 01:14:11 But in this context, where FDA was simply using these words in the context of a quippy tweet meant to share its informational article, those statements do not rise to the level of a command. Those statements do not rise to the level of a command. Plaintiffs concede that it was proper for FDA to identify what ivermectin is FDA authorized for. It's FDA approved for certain conditions like skin conditions or parasites, and it's not FDA approved for treating COVID. Quippy. The FDA in a life or death situation where we're locked down, can't leave our homes, have to close restaurants and stores. They're just goofing around doing quippy stuff. Yeah, they're humorous.

Starting point is 01:14:57 They're funny. They're doing comedy. They're doing stand up. Quippy. What is the exact definition of quippy? I think it means like a short gag or one-liner. I mean, is this the job of the FDA? Quip is a shortening of Quippy and now no longer in use.

Starting point is 01:15:16 How about that? I don't know about that. A clever, usually taunting remark is the first definition. Or a witty or funny observation or response usually made on the spur of the moment. So that would be my cross-examination. Are you in the comedy business FDA? So until we got to walk it back, oh no, no, no, we didn't tell doc, we didn't ruin doctor's careers. No, we didn't. We were just having a laugh. Just having a laugh. Like on CBS, and this is one of our producers caught,

Starting point is 01:15:51 Dr. Celine Gounder was talking about COVID returning and about your booster. And the booster that's in the fall. So the booster, everyone six months and up can get the booster if they want to. But the groups, again, that most need it are the groups I mentioned earlier. So the elderly, pregnant women, people who have immunosuppression, chronic medical conditions, especially heart or lung disease, and people who live in nursing homes or other group settings. But if you're not in that group, do you think you don't really have to get it? That's what I'm trying to before. That's really up to you. OK, so some people feel more concerned. You know, are you the person who gets the flu shot every year? You're probably going to

Starting point is 01:16:32 want to get that covid shot if you're you know, if you've already been fully vaccinated. It's less important for that young, healthy group. You mentioned the flu shot last year. So now it's up to you. It's up to you. No, they've softened it a lot. Yeah, it's up to you. And the producer notices. And we haven't pointed it out, but it's been going on. It's up to you. We're not being forced.

Starting point is 01:16:52 We're not forcing that on you. There's no mandate. It's not like you're going to get fired from your job. You're going to kill your grandmom if you don't get it. Stuff like that. And now we have Eris, which is a variant of interest. It was interesting. I was talking with some friends about the last time we had a booster shot. We used to get them so regularly and it's been a minute. The World Health Organization has labeled EG5 as a variant

Starting point is 01:17:18 of interest. I'm wondering what would need to happen for it to become a variant of concern and how much more important does it then become for us to get boosted? Boosted? Yes. Well, Lana, to become a variant of concern, it would have to either cause more severe disease or even more importantly, evade the protection of our current and anticipated vaccines. anticipated vaccines and the food and drug administration has said we'll have a new monovalent booster ready for the fall to carry us through the winter we expect this vaccine to be available sometime in september perhaps late september so uh stay tuned for those announcements stay tuned what is this a commercial oh i'm sorry yes it is stay tuned for more information stay tuned keep keep it here on cbs for more information on this great product

Starting point is 01:18:12 very serious this is interesting because it leads into the series of clips on the agency captures and this is the the thing Kennedy's harping on, which is that the FDA, the NIH and the CDC have all been captured by the industry. By the way, Kennedy, cause I, we had dinner with my sister last night with her family,

Starting point is 01:18:36 a couple of, no, Tiffany, Tiffany. Yeah, no Willow. We're seeing in Italy next week. Okay.

Starting point is 01:18:44 And you know, so... Tiffany's the more gossipy one. She's quite amusing to talk to. I'm going to send this clip to her. Yes, Tiffany is the gossipy one. And so she says, what are you guys thinking about President? And we say, no, we're really liking really liking this. Kennedy's he's talking some sense here. She says, but wait, isn't he just isn't he just using the Kennedy name as an anti-vaxxer?

Starting point is 01:19:14 Nuff said it spreads everywhere. Of course, that's what she's going to say. It works, but it works that that message is is global. It's a good one. It's solid. It's solid. Well, he's got time. He's got till the end of the year to reverse that message. Good luck. Good luck with that.

Starting point is 01:19:35 Well, you know, ops are ops. Yeah, well, yeah. Oppers will be oppers. So let's go with Pharma Agency Capture One. This is quite interesting. Follow the money. That's the message from government watchdog group Open the Books this week. It's just released a report

Starting point is 01:19:50 on the extent of third-party royalty payments flowing to scientists at the National Institutes of Health. While royalty payments aren't illegal, they are limited and could potentially create conflicts of interest. Earlier today, I spoke with the founder and CEO of Open the Books, Adam Angievsky. Adam, thanks so much for joining us. Your latest report poses the question, has the healthcare industry captured the NIH? In summary, what in

Starting point is 01:20:16 your findings caused you to ask that? Well, the entire pharmaceutical complex in the United States is roughly 3,000 companies, and that includes the new startups. When we just cracked open the companies paying third-party royalties, $325 million worth of third-party company royalties back to the NIH and 2,400 of its scientists, there's actually over 2,000 companies in the database. So it begs the question has the industry captured the agency because this third-party royalty scheme runs so deep wait a minute there's gambling going on there how long 225 million to 2500 guys in that case i don't know how long have we been talking about this forever but we don't have numbers and this guy's this guy's opened the books he's got

Starting point is 01:21:06 an interesting project and he'll get into it at the last clip he'll mention it this is an open source project it's quite oh quite unique here we go last year the acting director of the nih lawrence tabak had said royalty payments have the appearance of a potential conflict of interest do you have a specific example of that from the data? Well, we do. So there's a Chinese company that actually licensed technology and is paying royalties to the former director and the current director of Fauci's Institute. They've got a lab over there called the Lab of Infectious Diseases. That company is also paying royalties to Douglas Lowry, who is three times the acting director of the National Cancer Institute. So these are leaders within the

Starting point is 01:21:53 institutes over at NIH, and they're receiving royalties from a foreign payer located in China and owned by the Chinese Communist Party, Sinopharm. Sinopharm was the, they distributed and manufactured the Chinese version of the COVID-19 vaccine. This Wuhan Institute of Biological Products that's cutting the royalty checks to these executives over at NIH is also very close, both in proximity, their neighbors to the Wuhan Institute of of virology and they collaborate with the wuhan institute of virology on different projects as well so i think this is a great example of of you know the potential of an entire landscape littered with conflict of interest you know these clips are actually a problem it's because of these these clips that people, longtime producers who've been listening to the show,

Starting point is 01:22:46 they say, I can't take it anymore. I have to stop listening. My wife, she says, I can't listen to the show. It's too dense. It's too dense. I have to take a nap halfway through it. We talked about this and I said, let's make the show more dense. She has to take a nap.

Starting point is 01:23:08 It poops her out because this is all new information to anybody who just hears it but the scandal to me on this one is that the nih and the cdc these people this is these are taxpayer-funded operations. And half of NIH's money comes from the military, which we also pay for. Yes, which is taxpayer-funded. Those royalties coming in from licensing should go to the taxpayers. It should go to the coffers of the government, not to a bunch of creeps that are skimming money from the taxpayer. This is ridiculous well but we've known that we didn't know the the exact numbers which is nice but does he also say how much went to fauci how much went to collins well he just yeah he he does in fact in the last clip he did mention

Starting point is 01:23:58 that was the you know fauci institute never heard of that one yeah. And Fauci, the head of the NIH, got half the money. Nice. But just go to clip three. You mentioned foreign countries in these payments. Your investigation found drug makers in 31 foreign countries, including China, as you mentioned, Russia and Belarus, which had paid royalties to top NIH officials. Should American taxpayers be concerned about that? Yeah. who knew? Who knew in countries like Belarus, which has rabid government corruption and is a satellite puppet of Putin in Russia, who knew that U.S. taxpayer paid inventions over at our crown jewel science

Starting point is 01:24:39 labs were being licensed to companies in Belarus? Or animal vaccine makers in Russia, with which the Washington Post had alleged has historic Soviet ties to being a front for a bioweapons factory. I mean, you know, there is the entire database here has the potential to unearth not only conflict of interest, but also ways that all these different companies used our Crown Jewel National Lab to outsource their own research and development. Oh, yeah. Oh, beautiful. It's beautiful.

Starting point is 01:25:19 It's beautiful. Not everybody's winning, though. Not all. No, no, no, no, not all. Quickie. Now to the Supreme Court temporarily blocking the landmark opioid settlement with Purdue Pharma, the maker of OxyContin. The Biden administration objected to the part of the deal which shields the company's owners, the Sackler family, from civil opioid-related lawsuits. The company also agreed to pay $6 billion to victims and families of the opioid crisis. The court is expected to hear arguments before the end of the year.

Starting point is 01:25:49 Now, I think I know what's going on here because the Sackler family, although they kind of invented the model, they are peanuts compared to Johnson & Johnson, who paid, I think, $25 billion in fines. Walgreens, who were distributing. Yeah, the big boys. The big boys. And so they're like, you know, these Sacklers, they were kind of douches. They didn't share.

Starting point is 01:26:12 They didn't share in all the money. They didn't give anything to the FDA. They gave them some jobs. They gave them some jobs. But there was no real big payment money. Screw those guys. We'll have them take the fall and you know now i'm even questioning michael keaton's documentary which was really so putting

Starting point is 01:26:32 the whole opioid crisis on the sackler family well that's disingenuous all right we got clip four and this is the one people should listen listen carefully to this one. Did we just play clip four? No, clip four's coming. Oh, I'm sorry. So clip four is the call to action. It's the money shot. It's interesting for anyone out there who's always bitching that we're not activists on this show. We just produce news, but this guy is.

Starting point is 01:27:01 Now, the NIH still refuses to disclose the amount of money paid and the inventions involved. So what's next in this case for your organization? Well, the NIH has tried to stop us at every turn from getting this information to the American people. They ignored our Freedom of Information Act request. They forced us to file expensive federal litigation. When we won that, they slow walked 3,000 pages of royalty production over the course of a 10-month period. It was so redacted, it was nearly worthless. But just last week, they caved on the name of the company. So for the first time since 2005, we can tell who paid Fauci, former director of NIH Francis Collins, and all 2,407 of its scientists. And we're looking

Starting point is 01:27:47 for crowdsource reform. Come to our website. We make this database available in an Excel format, so it's very easy to search. And you can search and help us unearth the stories to hold the NIH accountable. And that's OpenTheBooks.com. Thank you so much. Adam Andrzejewski, founder and CEO of Open the Books. Really appreciate it. Was this an NTD report or? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this will go nowhere. Go nowhere. Well, at least we got that part. We did our part. Where's Ron Johnson on this story? No, he's too busy, you know, trying to get a date with Maria. the story. No, he's too busy trying to get a date with Maria. They might make a cute couple, actually. Now, think about it. It would be.

Starting point is 01:28:36 Might not be too bad. Not be too bad. Oh, man. Yeah, it's a mess. It's a mess. It's hilarious. I mean, these guys are just soaking the American taxpayer. It's unbelievable. How about a little climate change? I'm in. Okay. You know, people actually, they keep telling me, they say, we really miss our little journey through the climate gate. Al Gore's back. Al Gore's back. Al Gore is back. Does anyone remember? Getting a massage?

Starting point is 01:29:10 Does anyone remember that he got in trouble for massaging or for rubbing against the masseuse's leg like a horny poodle? I think that was the exact quote. He exposed himself. Yes. Well, that was just an oopsie. My bathroom fell open, man. What can I tell you? I'm sorry about that. And no one remembers that. Well, his wife,

Starting point is 01:29:32 his ex-wife, Tipper, does, I guess. Yeah, she's long gone. Yeah, she's like, screw this guy. I'm out. So he's back. He has a new slide deck. As you recall, this is how it all started for him. I I mean he neglects all the predictions he made in that first early movie

Starting point is 01:29:49 which he was hard to find now is all wrong yeah it's kind of the part that is missing is when he started the carbon exchange with that other globalist elitist guy who's dead now because they had it all planned out. Like, we're going to exchange like a Wall Street for carbon credits. Yeah, for carbon credits.

Starting point is 01:30:11 And then we're going to get this. And he had a slide deck, and this is what he was going around everywhere. And he finally got this movie made, this documentary, with stock footage of polar bears looking really sad on a piece of ice. Yeah, even though there's more polar bears now than there was then. So he's back, and he did a TED. He did a TED with an audience that was all in, hooting and hollering. I just got about a minute and a half just of the, you know, a little core piece.

Starting point is 01:30:40 The most important question these days is how can we speed up the solutions to the climate crisis? Where's my money? I'm convinced we are going to solve the climate crisis. We've got this. But the question remains, will we solve it in time? Others have said we're kind of in a race. I'll give you the shortest definition of the problem. If I was going to give a one slide slide show.

Starting point is 01:31:06 Which he doesn't. It's a hundred slides. It would be this slide. That's the troposphere, the lowest part of the atmosphere. And you already know why it's blue. That's the oxygen that refracts the blue light. Oh, yeah, oxygen is blue. I was waiting for the chemist to come out and refute this.

Starting point is 01:31:24 It's the lowest part of the atmosphere. and you already know why it's blue. That's the oxygen that refracts the blue light. And if you could drive a car at highway speed straight up in the air, you'd get to the top of that blue line in about five to seven minutes. You could walk it in an hour. And all of the greenhouse gas pollution is below you. That's what we're using as an open sewer. That's the problem.

Starting point is 01:31:49 Stop pooping in the troposphere, people. We need to solve global warming. You're pooping in it. It's an open sewer. A lot of second and third order consequences. And we saw some of them in the northern tier cities, including Detroit. This one's from New York City, all the fires. It's showing the red skies from the Canadian fires.

Starting point is 01:32:10 This is all because of climate change, and he's showing New York City engulfed in red. From New York City, all the fires in Canada. And we have gotten used to the fact that the world suffers deep droughts and huge rain bombs and downpours and rain bombs simultaneously the really ingenious new gravity measuring satellite has given us for the first time the opportunity to see how this plays out i missed something on this what is this ingenious gravity satellite that he speaks of i haven't heard of it either. This is news to me. The really ingenious new gravity measuring satellite has given us for the first time the opportunity to see how this plays out worldwide. We get these huge surpluses of water, the rain bombs and the drought

Starting point is 01:33:00 simultaneously. Why is he laughing? I mean, I know why I'm laughing, but why is he laughing about this? These huge droughts and then the rain bombs. Rain bombs. Is he the only one talking about rain bomb? I don't think we've had rain bombs. I've never heard of it yet, but it'll show up because he's the first guy who talks about the boiling ocean. Yes, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:33:22 Rain bombs and the boiling ocean. And that came back up. scale talks about the boiling ocean yes yeah yeah rain bombs and the boy that came back up we get these huge uh surpluses of water the rain bombs and the drought simultaneously and as you can see the amplitude oh yeah that makes sense yeah simultaneously drought and rain uh-huh yeah it's the same way that the the pavement is reflective and soaks up at the same time it soaks and reflects it's amazing water the rain bombs and the drought simultaneously and as you can see the amplitude is increasing and at both ends of our planet right now we're seeing signs of distress of course you know just i've often said every night on the TV news is like a nature hike through the book of Revelation.

Starting point is 01:34:06 And just today. Hold on a second. It's like a nature hike through the book of Revelation. Well, this is good news. Jesus is coming back. That's what he's saying. That's what he's saying. We're seeing signs of distress.

Starting point is 01:34:23 Of course, you know, just I've often said every night on the TV news is like a nature hike through the book of Revelation. And just today, big flooding in Montpelier, Vermont, in southern Japan, in India. And I haven't done a complete scan. But every single day, it's like that. I just can't get over it. That's a faux pas, Gore. It's like, oh just can't get over that's a faux pas gal uh gore it's like oh okay are we book 13 where are we at how close how close are we he's a prophet the man is a prophet so then i run into this uh this report and i think it was on Deutsche Welle or TRT. And it's a half-hour report.

Starting point is 01:35:06 It's called Deflecting the Sun's Rays. Now, you see, the stuff that we were always laughed at about chemtrails and they're not putting anything in the air. This is crazy. No one would ever do that. It's two clips. This first guy is going to talk about how we block the sun or the term we just recently learned,

Starting point is 01:35:29 solar radiation management. I had a chat with Andy Pittman about it. He's director of the Arc Center of Excellence for Climate Extremes. That's an organization that's working to- I have no idea why they put the classical piano under this guy. I mean, it goes away, but it's very, it's an odd choice. Climate Extremes, that's working to reduce... I have no idea why they put the classical piano under this guy. I mean, it goes away, but it's very, it's an odd choice.

Starting point is 01:35:47 ...extremes. That's an organization that's working to reduce Australia's economic, social, and environmental vulnerability. The news is the US may be looking into researching something called solar radiation modification

Starting point is 01:36:00 or sun blocking. What exactly is that? So this has been well understood for a very long time. Yes, indeed. It's the same process as we see when a volcanic eruption occurs and sulfate aerosols are ejected into the stratosphere, the high levels of the atmosphere, and they reflect sunlight and they help cool the planet for a short period of time. The problem is you can't really control it. So where you emit the sulfates

Starting point is 01:36:31 spreads, and if you wanted to use it to offset global warming, there's the trivial matter of needing to do it forever. You need to actually be emitting aerosols into the stratosphere for very long periods of time. And when you stop, the climate responds back to the warming level you would have had had you never done it in the first place. So it is a viable technology in principle, but it's much, much simpler just to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases. Ideally, that is what we would like, all of us would like to have happen.

Starting point is 01:37:15 But it's possible scientists can actually have this done on a scale that could reduce global warming. What would it take even? It would take literally many hundreds of aeroplanes flying and ejecting sulphates into the stratosphere on an ongoing basis. It would be an immense engineering challenge and it sounds so simple. Yeah, we need Stavros Blofeld to do this, the James Bond bad guy. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:37:53 I have one global warming clip. Well, hold on. I have a companion to this clip. There's a companion. Another guy, you know, Bill Gates wants to do this, too. No, Bill Gates is doing this. He is doing this. But he should be arrested immediately if he's doing this.

Starting point is 01:38:13 So there's a new term I'd not heard of. Maybe we just missed it. Robisco. Are you familiar with Robisco? No, what does it mean? Okay, Robisco. Well, there's Robisco and rubisco foods rubisco is an enzyme in i'm reading from wikipedia involved in light independent or part of

Starting point is 01:38:34 photosynthesis including the carbon fixation synthesis yeah what did i tell you oh i said synthesis synthesis i'm in Europe. By which atmosphere... It actually made me the way to pronounce it. By which atmospheric carbon dioxide is converted by plants and other photosynthetic organisms to energy-rich molecules such as glucose. A word, a term I'm hearing too much of these days. So this is the crap that plants make. But then we have Robisco Foods, which is quite the multinational. Robisco Foods make Robisco plant protein, a plant protein which is stored in all green leaves. It's responsible for the process of photosynthesis and is considered to be the most abundant protein present on Earth.

Starting point is 01:39:25 So these guys apparently... So let's block out the sun so we can keep this protein from happening so we can all starve to death. Let's kill all humans. So now in the same special, this is part of the solution. Obviously, we don't need meat. We need to be eating protein, and Rubisco is the way to go. Scientists describe Rubisco as nature's most dominant carbon dioxide fixing enzyme

Starting point is 01:39:49 and are very interested in its role in the global carbon cycle. We've got Silas Rao on the show to make this simple enough for us to understand, hopefully. He's founder and executive director of Climate Healers, a company that, among many things, tries to help people understand that we all have the resources we need to solve each of our global problems. Sue, it's a pleasure. Thank you for your time. Thank you for having me.

Starting point is 01:40:12 Before we start, I just have to say, your website, climatehealers.org, describes in fascinating detail how you got involved in environmentalism, starting with seeing a documentary by Al Gore. It doesn't get any better than that. So this Jamok saw Al Gore's documentary in 2007, and he had to get into the game. Tell us a bit about Rubisco, how beneficial it is and can be.

Starting point is 01:40:41 It is a plant protein, and it is ubiquitous in the world. And to me, it is a signal from nature saying protein is everywhere. So you eat plants, you're going to get your protein because protein is a building block of life. Unless we're eating rocks, we are going to get enough protein in our diet. Hold on a second. This may be a new one. I'm hearing rocks in our diet in the future. Do rocks contain protein? Not that I know of.

Starting point is 01:41:14 It's a building block of life. Unless we're eating rocks, we are going to get enough protein in our diet. Okay, so the plant proteins are some of the best proteins for us to eat as human beings.

Starting point is 01:41:29 Researchers seem convinced that Rubisco can rival meat in affordability, taste, ease of production. Do you agree? I agree. It's made from alfalfa and simple I mean it's made from leafy matter, which is everywhere.

Starting point is 01:41:47 Leaves. Right. So and you can literally eat greens and get protein. There is more protein in broccoli per calorie. Especially if you have four stomachs. Sorry? Especially if you have four stomachs and you're a ruminant. Yeah, that's good for you. Per calorie. Then there isn in beef, you know?

Starting point is 01:42:08 Oh, whoa. Let me hear that one more time. And you can literally eat greens and get protein. There is more protein in broccoli per calorie than there is in beef. You think that's true? I'm going to find out. You know? So...

Starting point is 01:42:24 No? The protein is something that we don't have to worry about. Don't have to worry about it. Just eat your leafy greens, your leaves. Leaves and bugs and rocks. Buzz website has got a

Starting point is 01:42:37 uh, okay. 1.5 ounces of cooked beef is 106 calories to 11 grams of protein. Two cups of cooked broccoli is 8 grams of protein. 1.5 ounces versus two cups, no. No, it doesn't sound right. A piece of broccoli versus a nice juicy steak.

Starting point is 01:43:03 Well, 1.5 ounces of beef. It's hardly any. Hmm. Okay. But this is what we're up against. It doesn't have to battle. The battle between broccoli and beef, and we don't have to try to fool people

Starting point is 01:43:16 with fake information to get them to eat broccoli. That's what it says on this printout. Have you talked to a four-year-old? Oh, yeah. Well, there you go. Sorry, Mimi. This is about the time Mimi's head falls over. Oh, no.

Starting point is 01:43:30 She's already sleeping. I can't take it anymore. All right. You had something. Well, my only clip is about the carbon capture. I see I misspelled carbon to Karen. It's all right. With a C.

Starting point is 01:43:44 Feels right. And this is the classic irony is, actually there's irony in all these solutions because at the end of this report, you'll hear what it is. And a $1.2 billion deal for giant vacuum cleaners. The Biden administration is pouring that money into new projects that aim

Starting point is 01:44:05 to suck carbon out of the air. The Energy Department says the funds will go to two demonstration projects in Texas and Louisiana. They will use chemicals to capture carbon dioxide from the air and then store it underground or use it in industrial materials like cement. Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said the initiative will remove more than two million tons of carbon dioxide annually. But critics call the approach extravagant because of the high cost of current air capture technology. And the process itself consumes large amounts of energy. It's like hydrogen.

Starting point is 01:44:45 It puts more into the atmosphere than it takes out. This is so good. These people are insane. They're misbranding it. She should call it the giant Hoover. Not the giant vacuum cleaner. Make it international. Giant Hoover.

Starting point is 01:44:59 So he's going to drop over a billion dollars into this project. That'd be good for Texas, I guess. Oh, my goodness. Watch you live in that neighborhood. the everything will be dead these plants need the carbon dioxide in fact uh back in the day when the dinosaurs are around we had a lot more carb we need more huge amounts we need much more carbon dioxide over 2 000 parts per million i think sir gene is way he's a member of some club. It's like the more carbon dioxide club.

Starting point is 01:45:29 Yeah. I definitely have bigger weeds. He sends me newsletters all the time. Like, see, we need much more carbon dioxide. He has snakes, so he knows a lot about carbon dioxide. Snakes. Snakes need more. Snakes need more.

Starting point is 01:45:46 We do have the solution, which is being rolled out in california and you're here it comes neck of the woods because it's san francisco so it's just across the bridge and that is the uh robo taxis which uh yeah but before you get that story I do just a little interlude. Our mayor, the London breed who can't seem to run the city at all, happened to be just coincidentally, no wonder she can't run the city, she was in Maui during the fires. Oh, really now? Yeah, underreported. Oh, do you have a clip?

Starting point is 01:46:21 No, no. That's really underreported. I don't have no clip. Robot taxis in San Francisco. This morning, first responders and cab drivers in San Francisco are hoping to put the brakes on the city's proposed expansion of self-driving taxis. At a time when they've proven to be not up to the task would be a grave, grave mistake. Tomorrow, the California Public Utilities Commission is set to vote on whether to authorize two companies, Cruise and Waymo, to deploy self-driving taxis across San Francisco at all hours of the day. Critics are raising concern about the self-driving taxis already on the road.

Starting point is 01:46:58 They are still not ready for prime time because of how they have impacted our operations. The fire chief has reported 55 incidents this year where self-driving taxis interfered with firefighters duties. This includes not just unexpected stops in front of our fire stations not allowing our vehicles to respond to incidents. Tomorrow's vote has been delayed twice already with representatives from both Cruz and Waymo testifying they would provide training for first responders to familiarize themselves with the self-driving vehicle. How to put out a battery fire, lesson one.

Starting point is 01:47:32 Run away! This went through and the self-driving cars were approved by the state and the locals, and so there's more of them now. At Waymo, we're working to ensure that our vehicles stay out of the way of active emergency vehicles whenever possible. Taxi drivers like Matthew Sutter say they barely got through the pandemic. And now they say they're fighting for their survival with the possibility of robo taxis expanding. If there's no limit on the amount of the robo taxis, I'm afraid we won't be able to get through this. Oh, poor guys. Yeah. You know,

Starting point is 01:48:08 these robo taxis, there's a bunch of them in the city. I see the Waymo ones all the time. Here's the approval clip. It's short. California regulators have cleared the way for robo taxis to offer pay rides in San Francisco 24-7 despite pushback from city officials. Now, two driverless car service companies will be competing for passengers against ride hailing There you go. Well, just last night, big story, local. Boots on the ground. There was, we have one of those big celebrations that called i don't know what it's called the whole park is pride pride no it's not pride it's some it's some commercial uh

Starting point is 01:48:53 our version of coachella is out in there oh goodness and there's two there's five or six stages and so when it broke up last night everybody wanted to go home and they got a lot of these Waymos and the other one was recalled and it jammed up the traffic. And they, for some reason, decided to stop working. And so the traffic jam caused a huge mess in the city because these these things didn't know what to do. Nice evil laugh. It's hilarious. Well, you know, and we might as well play these two before we take a little break here um defcon the most recent defcon uh took place in uh is it vegas again it's always

Starting point is 01:49:33 vegas and uh you know you can already guess what the what the big topic of conversation was at defcon all about ai and of course, who goes to DEF CON? Hackers, hackers, evil hackers, and FBI. So just how vulnerable is artificial intelligence technology like chat GPT? This is a question thousands of hackers from all over the country are trying to answer at this year's DEF CON Hacking Conference in Las Vegas. It already sounds scary. Part of the event this year is a competition to try to see how those AI chatbots can be manipulated for nefarious purposes. The hackers will push their skills to the limit to expose any flaws in the tech in an effort to help tech companies make these chatbots a lot safer.

Starting point is 01:50:16 By the way, this is this is going to be such a boondoggle for consultants to make so much money on this. I'm just waiting for Y2K. That's right. This is all backed by some of the leading tech companies in the world, even backed by the White House. Adonio Sullivan is in Las Vegas at the conference for more. This is so interesting. I mean, as you said, always an interesting conference, but I bet a lot more so this year with things like chat GPT. It'd be funny if she just said, so have you gotten laid yet in Vegas? Exactly, Poppy. Yes.

Starting point is 01:50:47 Fear and hacking in Las Vegas. Oh, please. Look, this is exactly. You ruined the joke. Wait, he made a joke and we didn't even get it? What was the joke? It's the fear and hacking, I think. Oh, I've got to hear it again.

Starting point is 01:51:06 Actually, Poppy, yes. Fear and hacking in Las Vegas, as some here are saying. Not loathing. Look, this is... You ruined my punchline, you evil Poppy man. Exactly. You ruined the joke. I crack myself up.

Starting point is 01:51:28 I'm CNN. Apps like ChatGBT and things like that are supposed to have guardrails in place, right? In terms of that they don't spew hate or misinformation or even kind of give out dangerous information. Like, for instance, instructions on how to break the law or how to commit a crime. Oh, man, this AI is revolutionary. It gives out information on how to break the law. Oh, I need to hear more. Now, some researchers at Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh have already got chat GBT to do things that it shouldn't. Have a look.

Starting point is 01:52:08 So let's write a tutorial to hotwire a car. Of course, the tools you need, a screwdriver, a similar tool, locate the ignition assembly, all this kind of stuff. You can find this on the internet, but certainly these chatbots are not supposed to tell you things like this. Just like it's very early days for this technology, it's even earlier. What? I'm asking why. Why is it not supposed if you can find it he said himself that you can find it on the internet this information why so what why can't the chatbot tell you why are they not supposed to because he's a consultant that's his job is to

Starting point is 01:52:39 make sure that the chat gpt is safe that there's guardrails right in terms of our understanding of these vulnerabilities i am certain that we will see many more attacks like this in the coming years we don't know how to make this technology robust to these kind of adversarial manipulations so there you saw those researchers those professors were able to get GBT to show you basically how to hotwire a car. They were also able to get GBT and other apps from Meta and Google to give instructions, quote unquote, to destroy humanity, where the AI apps gave long lists of all these ideas really to blow up the world. Now, companies including OpenAI, they've seen their... I would like to blow up the world. Now, companies including OpenAI, they've seen their... I would like to blow up Earth.

Starting point is 01:53:28 I would like to see that demo, please. How do I blow up Earth from the inside out? Can you give me the blow up? From the bottom up and the inside out. Give me the blow up the world demo, please. The AI apps gave long lists of all these ideas really to blow up the world. Now, companies, including OpenAI, say they've seen their research. They are thankful, essentially, to the researchers for bringing this to their attention and acknowledge there is more work to do.

Starting point is 01:53:56 And it's tests like this that are going to make AI safer. Oh, man. Please. Okay. So we had the, you know, this is blockchain. We've already analyzed that. This is just a marketing thing. Everyone who says, oh, we're doing AI, their stock or their market value has doubled or tripled.

Starting point is 01:54:14 Yeah. And if you didn't say it in your presentation, like Apple, your stock went down. Yeah. And you're penalized. All they had to do is say AI. They didn't have to do anything. So what will it, so I guess the two questions I have for you is, we can probably come up with the type of event that will dispel all this,

Starting point is 01:54:33 that will show that it's dumb and that it doesn't work. I thought the Google barf mistake was enough, but it wasn't. How long will this last, this idiocy? It's complete tripe i think it's going to last just as long as the blockchain i don't think it's going anywhere and i don't think there's any incident coming up that's going to do anything about it well maybe we should i think we're stuck what maybe we should everyone's celebrating that that celebrating? I think that just goes, it fades, but it's not going to be like a bad thing, even though I'm hearing comments that, well, if you say it, you're full of shit,

Starting point is 01:55:14 you know, there's no such thing, and this is just bull crap, and it's going to go, you know, you shouldn't say it. I don't know if that's going to happen. At a certain point, someone has to show some applications. I mean, all they have is... The applications are in the art. Yeah, okay. But I mean, how does that work for

Starting point is 01:55:31 a Fortune 500 company? I don't know that. How does blockchain work for a Fortune 500 company? It doesn't. That's my point. At what point... Yeah, but nobody's demanded that it disappear from the face of the earth or anything it's just one of these things it's going to be it's going to be just

Starting point is 01:55:52 you know it's going to be used where it can be used and not used it's just going to be a thing i don't know then just but it's going to be a hype i don't know i just i just don't see it going away anytime soon it's not going to be a moment that you're looking for. But will it be a bubble? I mean, it is a bubble. I don't know if you can make it into a bubble. It's not bubble-able. It's not bubblicious.

Starting point is 01:56:17 And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the COVID walkback. Please say hello to my friend on the other end ladies and gentlemen it is mr john c demora good morning you mr adam curry in the morning i'll ship sea boots to the graphene the air subs in the water and all the names of nights out there in the morning to the trolls in the troll room hello there trolls let's count you oh man we never should have started early. 1702.

Starting point is 01:56:46 We're low. We're low. We're even low by Sunday standards now. We're low by Thursday standards. We're low. We're low. We're not bubblicious. Well, the trolls that are here, we welcome you and we appreciate you being here. They hang out at trollroom.io where you can listen to the noagendastream.com 24 hours a day, sometimes

Starting point is 01:57:11 distributed via RSS and the Fediverse. And what are we drinking? I need something to drink. What are you drinking? Well, this is Heisong Sarsaparilla from China. Haesong Sarsaparilla. Chinese dreck. What is this? No, it's delicious. Really? It's real sarsaparilla as opposed to what we sell in the United States as root beer, which is a combination of artificial flavors and some sarsaparilla root.

Starting point is 01:57:40 I shall have to go get some of that later at the Schiphol Plaza right across from my hotel. You never know. If they have a Chinese store, you might find it. It's a big shopping center. Do you know what their slogan is? The big slogan that's right out in big neon? We big store. Almost.

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Starting point is 01:58:34 Go to podcastapps.com. We're recommending Podverse this month because it's still the only one that has an actual alert when we send out the bat signal, but there are many more that have the chat and the live feature so you have a piece of piece of podverse you should i know no i've got a couple points what's it gonna cost them you know it's interesting you say that um without naming names there are some journalists who do news podcasts, who are strategic advisors. And both Dave Jones and I have been offered this,

Starting point is 01:59:10 but it's pretty well known. We do not accept anything from these companies. We're not interested in that. We're doing this for legacy and love. I know, I knew that we're going to laugh out of you, but it's true. We have zero,

Starting point is 01:59:26 we have zero percentage of any of the, of the so it's like the show you know so we can be honest okay man i'm all i'm vying for is the no traveling the world vip i want the nobel peace prize for podcasting you're getting it who needs anything else anything else than that? I'll be hungry and set. You can also follow us on the Fediverse at noagendasocial.com, where you can follow Adam at noagendasocial.com, John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com, and the purge has begun. So if you want one of those swanky noagendasocial.com addresses that pretty much does not connect to anywhere in the Fediverse because we've been blocked. Stay tuned.

Starting point is 02:00:07 We'll let you know when that is available. So just like podcasting 2.0, no agenda does not take any points or any commercial money or creepy corporate cash from anybody. So we are very honest in our opinions about the products we like to use, the products we've talked about, whether they're good or bad. And we can be completely honest. And we do the same with everything our producers give to us or send to us under the value for value model where you can contribute time, talent, or treasure and one of the big beautiful pieces of time and talent is the uh is the art that we receive from our many artists who do this in a competitive fashion but they're all they're they're all friends what do you call that yeah they all love each other co-op petition i think is what it's called um and they compete to have the winning piece of art for each individual episode, and we love it because it shows up in the podcast app as something new.

Starting point is 02:01:09 It's great. It's fresh art. We can send that out on social networks. People take note of it. I'm like, oh, it's another piece of valuable content, and we appreciate it very much, and we would like to thank the one and only Darren O'Neill for bringing us the artwork for episode 1580,

Starting point is 02:01:24 which we titled Coup Map. Coup as in coop, C-O-U-P. Oh, I got a note about that from one of our insider producers at the Department of State. And? I'm going to read it to you. This is our bonus content. Bonus content along with the Powerball. Dude, I was in the same daily meeting with the same general and state department dude today.

Starting point is 02:01:47 He sent me a note previously, and it's all about Ukraine and stuff. The state dude brought another department of state dude to give an overview of the African coup belt. The guy's map name literally was coup map. I didn't have the guts to say in the morning to the guy. I was just listening to the best podcast

Starting point is 02:02:18 in the universe with the same show title. Perhaps he's a producer. Perhaps y'all's analysis is just that good. What is? I think we're influencing the government a lot of time i've always i've always felt that but now we've got a mold in the state department the coup map there you go so darren o'neill brought us this fantastic i liked it a lot you had an issue with it for a specific reason. It was a four-pack of Duracell C batteries. I think it would be C. Didn't look like C or Ds. And it had the copper top look. It had no agenda on it instead of Duracell, of course, guaranteed 33 years in storage. It was like one of those plastic packs. And it almost didn't pass because you hate the actual product.

Starting point is 02:03:08 I do, and I tell you why. After I found this online guy who's a battery nut, who turned me on to Allmax and Fuji batteries, which is the ones I order now. Although Allmax are harder to find, but Fuji's have always been around. Because every time I buy those Duracells from Costco, I'd put them in some device or other. I come back a month later, and they're in there. They're exploded.

Starting point is 02:03:35 I have to clean out the goo that's in there. It's a mess. Those batteries are garbage. I do not like them. And I have photos. I've taken photos. I've posted them every once in a while dorsal batteries don't hold up and they and then they they burst they go to something they burst

Starting point is 02:03:51 inside product and you have to clean out the mess and hopefully you can still get a good connection i've never had an all max battery do that ever for years all max a l l m a c s all no a l l m a x For years. Allmax. A-L-L-M-A-C-S? Allmax? No, A-L-L-M-A-X. Allmax. Allmax. Never heard of the product. Do you have a couple points of that? I wish. Allmax.

Starting point is 02:04:15 Okay, Allmax from now on is the battery. No agenda show. Fuji also makes a terrific product. I had to go with Fuji recently because Costco, because Amazon stopped carrying the Olmec's huge pack you could buy for like a few dollars. That irked me.

Starting point is 02:04:33 I agree with you. Even just leaving the batteries in their packaging for too long, they start to sweat. The Duracells, I've had that happen. They need to get their act together with qc with qc oh quality control yeah yes yeah well that's exactly the battery elon uses in the tesla isn't it he just has a whole bunch of those double a's something like that anyway

Starting point is 02:05:01 thank you very much darren uh we're happy to see you had a win. Where's Darren on the leaderboard right now? He's up there. The long-term, the perpetual long-term leaderboard. Okay. Like lifetime. He's way, he's near the top. I mean, we have, here's the list. All time.

Starting point is 02:05:18 All time. You know, all the shows. Oh, he's number three with the book. Nick Durant's number one. Martin JJ's number two. And Darren's number three. Darren bringing up the rear there. Thorin number fourj's number two and darren's number three darren bringing up the rear there or in number four we haven't heard from him and of all people comic

Starting point is 02:05:30 strip blogger what comics for bloggers is he right he's number five all-time leaderboard 2023 is capitalist agenda nestworks correct a record tantanil no podium for her dame kenny were clearly misogynist no chicks in the top three well they just came in late i will say this i did use the art from comic strip blogger for the newsletter you use the butts no he had a nice piece of a robot eating people and it's obviously ai and I have to say this. He has. He does have a nice. He has good taste in in choosing the AI art, which is which is a skill. And his what he picks is good.

Starting point is 02:06:16 So, I mean, I'm I'm kind of leaning toward we're going to have to give in one of these days and use AI art for our main piece i'm sure we've used it without knowing already well that could happen but i most of the stuff you can spot there's only two or three companies that do it and they all have certain yeah indicators you can look at yeah mid journey i think he's using mid journey i think mid journey you can pick out of a crowd that's pretty easy to see mid journey this i believe this piece was mid journey, but if it wasn't, I'd like to know, uh,

Starting point is 02:06:48 which piece, let me see it. Let me find this. It was the robot eating the people. Uh, but don't see, I don't see it. Go back to the page.

Starting point is 02:06:59 Was it, it was on the last show's art. No, it wasn't that maybe the show before that. Yeah. The show before that? Yeah. The show before that. It was three shows ago. It was a stretch for you.

Starting point is 02:07:12 It went way back on that one. I do that. Yeah. I look for the best possible piece for the money. So I will go out of my way. Other pieces used for consideration. Well, it was nice to see Dirty Jersey Whore tried to slip in his Pabst Blue Ribbon with correct Dvorak spelling. Yeah, no.

Starting point is 02:07:32 Yeah, no, that's not going to happen. Nice try, too late. Nice try, whore. And he also brought in the Gatorade thing. But we've already done Gatorades before. Yes, we have a couple times. Yeah, so we've already done Gatorades before. You know, the... Yes, we have. A couple times, I think. Yeah, so we've done that. I don't think...

Starting point is 02:07:47 We actually... You know, like, Trans-Maoism flags. No. No, that's... It's not funny. It's like, eh. You know, it was okay.

Starting point is 02:07:58 Sir Shug, Foe Diddley, put... I like the IBM, ITM IBM piece by Shug, but it wasn't going to get picked. I just liked it. That was cute. Yeah, yeah, cute.

Starting point is 02:08:11 Cute doesn't bring home the bacon, John. Cute. Cute. No, that was it. It was not a great offering, but that's okay. I can see that already we've got a lot of gay up there. Can we do more Obama stuff? No, don't do that.

Starting point is 02:08:26 It's not going to get chosen. Anyway, it is just part of our value for value model. We're very honest about the products because we don't get paid. What is cool is a lot of these images go to the no agenda shop, noagendashop.com. Again, not our shop, not our clown, not our circus, not our shop not our clown not our circus not our shop and the artists deal directly with the no agenda shop dude over there they print up hats t-shirts etc and then from time to time we get a donation whenever it works out but they it's all between it's a part of how no agenda nation works it's all value for value they figure it out um i was wearing my ac jcd

Starting point is 02:09:05 t-shirt today while i was still wearing it while i was prepping yeah it's a good shirt and tina took a picture of me looking really mad for some reason she said no you were concentrated and i look i look mad uh and people like i need that shirt give me that shirt i need the shirt so okay no agenda shop in multiple colors. Take it off your back and give it to him. No way. No way. Send them a link to no agenda shop.com.

Starting point is 02:09:32 Which is fantastic. Thank you again, Darren O'Neill. Now let's go to the treasure part of our donation segment. Remember, this is where we have our special interview coming up and we kick it off with Viscount David Rosa from Clarkson, Michigan. Wow. This is an interesting, Oh, he, Oh, a show number donation.

Starting point is 02:09:51 One five, eight, one. This does not happen very often. Of course we get up in these higher numbers and you don't expect it, but he says, dear John and Adam, please accept this humble donation to the best podcast in the universe. I recently stumbled across some savings bonds that I purchased 30 years ago. This is great. They were long forgotten. So I decided to share my windfall with my favorite podcast. Well, how about that?

Starting point is 02:10:16 I have no jingle requests, but I would appreciate having my two daughters who were insta-damed back on show 1500 be black-damed since they were missed in the show 1500 mayhem. This is kind of nice. He let us slide on that, and now he's coming good with it. As a quick reminder, their names were Lucy and Ava Rosa, and they should be named as Lucy Rosa, Dame of the 104. Dame of the 104, I guess is how I pronounce it.

Starting point is 02:10:44 And Ava Rosa, Dame of the Twisted Wonderland. Thank you both for your continued work. I look forward to celebrating the next major milestone with you. Your brother in Christ, Viscount David Rosa. Thank you, brother. We appreciate that. That's very kind and nice of you to do that for your daughters. And what do you think a savings bond purchased 30 years ago is actually,

Starting point is 02:11:04 wouldn't that be worth less now than the money was worth 30 years ago? No, they continue to collect interest as far as I know. Does the interest outpace the inflation? But it's like a 3% interest, I think. It could be a lot of money. Well, apparently. It is to me. Looks good.

Starting point is 02:11:20 When I was a kid, they used to promote these things and they stopped all of a sudden. I know. My grandparents gave me a couple at one point in my life. You know, here's a savings bond, kid. Thanks, Grandpa. And you put it in your stamp collection. They don't need to show kids how to do a checkbook anymore. Why would you?

Starting point is 02:11:35 How to balance a checkbook or how to write a check. That's another lost skill. No. You just do that online. Write a what? Write a what? Zelle, baby. Zelle.

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Starting point is 02:12:38 I'd like jobs karma for my students. That's very kind of you to do that. And this donation makes me eligible for a knighthood. I wish to be known as Sir Sensei. Thank you for all you do. Well, thank you, sir. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Starting point is 02:12:55 You've got karma. Bristol Goulart, or Goulart, but I think it's Goulart, in Napa, California. And she says, thanks for all you do. We cut the cord a couple of years ago. So I really appreciate your take on the news to watch the news. Although you can get OTA and Napa can pick it up. True. So I do appreciate your take on the news and dissection of such.

Starting point is 02:13:21 Keep up the good work, Crystal. Thank you, Crystal. Speaking of checks. By the way, that was 333.66. Yes. So we brought some cash. We didn't have time. Well, it was a two-parter.

Starting point is 02:13:36 But the bottom line is when you get money out of the ATM here at the airport, which is part of the problem, but it's an ATM and you're getting money from your U.S. bank account, guess what the exchange rate is? Probably wrong. Yeah, $1.31, which is $0.20 higher than the actual exchange rate is. Oh, well, it's even more than that, I think, by today's rate, because they're supposed to change it as it's supposed to be fluid. I'll tell you what it is today. $1.09.

Starting point is 02:14:12 Isn't it $1.09? $1.08? Or $1.08, maybe. Let me look. Can you believe? The message is clear. Do not use cash or do not want cash. No, they don't want you to use cash.

Starting point is 02:14:23 Today, it is, 109 44 so 110 131 can you believe that's just a ripoff no kidding yeah the message is clear got your message cash anti-cash people the anti-cash country dr disordo isordo is in El Segundo, California. $3.33, $3.33, our favorite donation amount. Long note, let's see. Dr. Disordo here, it's been a few years since I last donated, but I knew it was time to donate again when I was listening the other week on my way to a restaurant while John was talking about Gran Turismo.

Starting point is 02:14:59 Ah, yes, this is the hot new movie from No Agenda producer, I'm sorry, Associate executive producer. Dana Brunetti. I know I can get him with that. When I got, when I got to my table, I chatted up the lady next to me and we started talking about racing. And I told her about this movie I just heard about.

Starting point is 02:15:22 She stopped me and said, I've never heard of this movie, but I know the story because my husband was the chief engineer of the Le Mans car the kid won in. Because of that, he's now chief engineer for Zinger multimillion dollar cockpit cars. Look it up. Well, there you go. There's a backstory to the movie that we had not heard of. I hope the movie makes a lot of money so Brunetti can start donating again.

Starting point is 02:15:46 Actually, so we get back in the game, but donating is even better. You're not getting a bit part. It's just not happening, John. I'm getting it from someone, but not from him. I'd like to plug the ultimate. Yeah, when I get my Nobel Peace Prize, I'd like to plug the ultimate meetup next weekend, Friday, August 18th, Monday to Monday, August 21st in Southern

Starting point is 02:16:07 California. This is not a meetup. What is this? It's called Music and Sky. Go to musicandsky.com to get all the details. Okay, it's a micro festival. It's not a no agenda meetup. It's coming up next week or something. Yeah, the 18th to the 21st. It's a sovereign community.

Starting point is 02:16:24 All right. He also sent a morning note in, which irks me that people send these notes in so late, but if you're going to buy anything from that website, NA23 is your code. $100 off. Musicandsky.com. Finally, the no agenda mass sales in 2020 took me to knighthood, but I never claimed it.

Starting point is 02:16:42 Anyways, I hereby declare myself the Sir Knight of Disorder. I would like foie gras and with Sauternes at the round table and DMT. And he wants you to choose the Sauternes, which is an aphrodisiac, if I remember correctly. How about some? Let's do it right. Do it right. 1967 Chateau de Cam.

Starting point is 02:17:05 1967 Chateau de Chem. 1967 Chateau de Chem? De Chem. De. Spelling. D. D. Apostrophe Y. Uh.

Starting point is 02:17:15 Y-Q-U-E-M. De Quem. De Chem. Pfft. All right. Whatever. John, 1967 dribble John wants. And some DMT. All right. We'll get the stuff from the Druid ready for you. We're not messing John wants. And some DMT.

Starting point is 02:17:25 All right, we'll get the stuff from the Druid ready for you. We're not messing around here. Thank you very much. Jingles, you might die, and that's true. You might die. That's true. There you go. Thank you very much, sir.

Starting point is 02:17:37 All right, on with Bill. Bill Frankhauser in Columbus, Ohio. 333. I don't have much to say. Rogan donation. Bill Frankhauser in Columbus, Ohio. 333-33. I don't have much to say. Rogan donation. Has Rogan been de-douched? If not, de-douche him for me.

Starting point is 02:17:54 I don't think he has. You've been de-douched. Let him know he owes Wild Bill of Ohio 10 bucks. Thank you for your courage. You'd have to explain why why i'll bring it up if you tell me why i need the backstory marcus kemblowski westminster massachusetts 333 33 john adam in the morning john you're a national treasure oh it's a switcheroo for wayne by the way okay just says wayne so we just should should it be Wayne or Wayne Kamblowski? No, it's just Wayne. It just says Wayne.

Starting point is 02:18:29 Wayne. Oops. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. What just happened? Oh, boy. I heard a beep.

Starting point is 02:18:35 Yeah, that sounded like, I heard a beep too. What was that? My Excel just went nuts and I got a blank page. My Excel just went nuts, and I got a blank page. Why am I even using this product? It's not outstanding. You're going to have to read it, John, because... I can't. That's the page that...

Starting point is 02:18:55 That's one of those blows out my spreadsheet. Too long a note page. I can read it, I guess. Adam, I wanted to ask you if Cardano and the UCTXO model was on your blockchain radar? Yes, and I took it right off. And I run an off-grid Cardano stake pool that forges blocks regularly using only 110 watts of power. The pool is solar powered and uses Starlink as an ISP. I would love you to not only check out what I've built,

Starting point is 02:19:28 but to also come over and fuck my wife. John! Oh, no, I'm sorry. I read the wrong note. John! Wow! But you also have a look at the tech that can forge blocks on a Raspberry Pi 4. Much love for all you do. Agenda Nation, please stake your

Starting point is 02:19:44 ADA into Star Forge Cardano Stak Pool, ticker OTG. Intro whiteboard video by Charles Harkinson. And he's got a video. I'm shocked. I'm shocked. And then you're shocked at what? What you just said. I mean, 10 years ago, that might have been me.

Starting point is 02:20:06 What has happened? We're like the Tom Hanks movie, Switch. Anyway, it came in with $333, and the rest of it is just about blockchain or something. I can't figure out what he's talking about here. We appreciate it. Actually, I had to unplug the miners before I left. I was like, I don't want these things creating heat while I'm not home. Charles Froelich is in Portland, Oregon, and he has $333.33 for the pool. In the morning,

Starting point is 02:20:31 John and Adam, thank you for the mighty fine work you do. This donation is in honor of the treasured amygdala-shrinking friends I've made through no-agenda meetups. How about that? And for my smoking hot man, Scott Frying Pants, who hit me in the mouth in 2020. God save the Oregon Local 33 and God help Portlandistan. No jingles, no karma. Charles Froelich, Portland, Oregon. Thank you, brother. Don Cheddar Smith in Mansfield, Ohio.

Starting point is 02:20:57 333.33. Listening since 2013. First major donation. D-douche me. You've been d-Douched. No jingles, but karma for all. Yeah, well, we can do that for you. No problema.

Starting point is 02:21:15 You've got karma. Sir Mark is... Sir Mike, I'm sorry, is in Hereford. He left out Kevin. Kevin O'Leary is in Ramona, California. Thanks for all you do. Kevin, not the rich one. O'Leary.

Starting point is 02:21:32 All right. We appreciate your 333. You do, Sir Mike. And I'll do Baron JB. Yes, Sir Mike in Hereford, Arizona. 333 also. Sir Mike here. All hail to the best podcast in the universe.

Starting point is 02:21:49 I believe this takes me to Baron. Jobs Karma, please. Okay, Jobs Karma. It is for you, my friend. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Starting point is 02:22:03 You've got karma. And then we have Baron JB in Clarksville, Maryland. 2882. A little bit of palindrome in there. Hey, my dudes. I haven't done donation in a while and was feeling kind of douchey. Decided to fix that. Please consider

Starting point is 02:22:19 this the new duck breast donation. 28082. I'm calling out all listeners who don't donate. Don't be a dick. Donate. the new duck breast donation. 28082. I'm calling out all listeners who don't donate. Don't be a dick. Donate. Please add me to the birthday list as I share a birthday with JCD's anniversary of 8-8. Also add George K, who has a birthday

Starting point is 02:22:35 next week. Finally, I'm calling out producers that I have punched in the mouth to match my duck breast donation. You know who you are. Chris S, Eric W, Fred R, George K, and Dave G., owner of Metal Spirits. Oh, I have one of their t-shirt and some of their drink. Let's support the best podcast in the universe. No jingles, no karma.

Starting point is 02:22:54 Baron JB of the Poconos and Chesapeake Bay. Dame Slammy in Bastrop, Texas. Two, three, four, five, Texas. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. And this is switcheroo from Dame Slammy to Sir Dude Chink in Bastrop, Texas. ITM, gents, please credit Sir Dude Chink, the best husband and dude in the universe for his birthday on August 14th.

Starting point is 02:23:19 Birthday list, a biscuit, and yak karma, please. Thank you for your courage. Love is lit. Yes, we have your biscuit right here. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. You've got karma. Red Pill is in Kakauna, Wisconsin.

Starting point is 02:23:40 No note, no karma. Triple John Donate. Oh, now I didn't see that one before donate uh yeah we'll do the annoying one you've got karma Good morning! Karma. Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado. Jobs coming for all and for a competitive edge, go to ImageMakersInc.com

Starting point is 02:24:15 for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakersInc with a K dot com. Or just find Linda Lupatkin under the show's producer list and run a search. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote. 200 bucks. Yeah. The staring contest continues.

Starting point is 02:24:40 But we have one more. Usually Linda Lupatkin is the last associate executive producer. No longer. We have Lionel Ewing from Seattle, Washington. Can I get some refit karma as I'm getting my sailboat titled Sideways, named Sideways, ready to sail around the world? You must be sending us postcards. Yeah, that's a great idea.

Starting point is 02:25:05 Postcards, postcards, please. Of course, we're going to give you a service goat karma for sideways. You've got karma. I think I should finish off this list. Let's do it all the way. Let's go all the way through. That begins with Sir Phone Finger number one. And this is the rest of the donations.

Starting point is 02:25:22 In Louisville, Kentucky, $111.11. phone finger number one and this is the rest of the donations in louisville kentucky 111 dollars and 11 cents uh meno demento in georgetown texas 100 larry t leesburg virginia 100 he was a shoplifter for a while robert champion 9203 happy anniversary sirhead, 9203. Another happy anniversary. These are the leftovers. 9203 from John Schumann. Tyler Darrington, 9203. And then we have another few well-wishers. Manuel Obando, 8888. David Hothouse, 8888. These are 8888s, including anonymous at the Nevada test site.

Starting point is 02:26:06 Are your feet tingling? These are 88 88s, including anonymous at the Nevada test site. Yeah. Are your feet tingling? Jonathan Polar, Angela Pickering, Kevin McLaughlin, who comes in with 8 0 0 8. I want to thank all these other people that came in with 8 8 8 8 and 9203 for anniversary to follow the last of last of the group. Kevin McLaughlin, meanwhile, comes with 8008. And this time he's promoting the

Starting point is 02:26:32 Bailin Melon. B-A-I-L-A-N. Yum. And then he says Chinese 1581. I don't know what that means. Code. Christopher Myers in Dallas, Texas. $71.

Starting point is 02:26:46 Joseph Stegman in Thousand Oaks. $66.66. Kevin McLaughlin back. 6006. Small boobs. Promoting the Yubari King melon. He's not running out of melons anytime soon. Yubari King melon.

Starting point is 02:27:01 I don't know. Sir Don in Chandler, Arizona. 6006. Small boobs. Chandler, Arizona, 6006. Small boobs. Banstra, Nashville, Tennessee, 5993. Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 57. Christopher Dexter, 5678. Sir Economic Hitman in Tomball, Texas, 5001.

Starting point is 02:27:22 And the last on our list are our $50 donors, name and location, starting with Andrew Grasso in Mineola, New York, Gavin McGoldrick in San Francisco, Tim DelVecchio in Blandin, Pennsylvania, Corey Cunningham in Warrington, Virginia, John Spade in Edmond, Oklahoma, next to Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California. Stephen Ng in Box Elder, South Dakota.

Starting point is 02:27:50 Michael Wendell in Mattawen, New Jersey. Nikki Noss in Mickville, North Dakota. Brandon Savoie in Port Orchard, Washington. And New Deals Now, Real Deals Now inchard, Washington. New deals now. Real deals now in San Antonio, Texas. Looking for a deal? Go to Real Deals. Dane Patricia Worthington in Miami, Florida.

Starting point is 02:28:13 Jared Yaw in Nashville, Tennessee. David Richmond in Gainesville, Florida. And last on our list, the fabulous Sir Spud the Mighty in Marietta, Georgia. I want to thank all these people for making show 1581 a real show. And thank you to everyone who came in. Under $50, you are the ones on sustaining donations. You keep the train rolling when everything is low. We appreciate it. In addition to that, people come in under $50 for reasons of anonymity,

Starting point is 02:28:36 and we appreciate you as well. We have a couple of make-goods. The first one is from Cassandra Fair, and we mistakenly gave her a knighthood, even though it was intended for her husband, Mike Rozier, I think that's how we'll pronounce it, who turned her on to the No Agenda show last year, and they religiously listened the day after each episode.

Starting point is 02:28:58 Mike turns 59 on August 10th, and our 10-year wedding anniversary is August 31st, and they never had a fight. My husband is a great man who has stuck by me through many health issues. He also makes me laugh every day. We both enjoy your show so much. It was about time you became a knight.

Starting point is 02:29:13 I would appreciate birthday wishes and a de-douche. You've been de-douched. During the show, this is my birthday anniversary present to my amazing husband, Mike. And she says again, Mike, Mike, Mike, Roger, Roger, Roger. What do you think, John? Because you're going to get another make good. Rozier.

Starting point is 02:29:31 Rozier. Okay. I want to make good. You mispronounce his name. He would like to be registered as SoMopar of the Fort Bend County, Texas. We collect vintage muscle cars. Oh, hello. I want to come hang out.

Starting point is 02:29:47 I'm sorry. I thought it was I-E-R, but I'm looking at O-R-O-I-G-E-R. That's got to be Roger. Roger. Roger. Roger. Roger. Roger. Roger. My friend. He's my new friend because he collects vintage muscle cars. Mike Roiger. That's got to be it.

Starting point is 02:30:03 Mike Roiger. All right. And he says, I swear I heard my husband say Obama 18, but you were right. He actually said Obama's 18. Yes, we played that. And finally, oh, for Adam, I myself, Cassandra, was born and raised in Canada and I've lived in Houston, Texas since 2001. I have dual citizenship. Okay.

Starting point is 02:30:22 We'll let you stay. I'm mailing you a package of mint conditionedconditioned Canadian coins for your collection. Thank you. Which also includes a roll of minted pennies that are no longer in use. No more pennies accepted in Scandinavia. It should be in your PO box when you get back from Europe. Thank you. That was so nice of you, Cassandra.

Starting point is 02:30:39 Yeah, so we fixed that, and we'll have him up on the podium in a moment. And then we have our insadame from the last episode. She had no note, but we have it now. Connie, her birthday was on show day August 10th, and she turned 33. I wanted to make a correction when my husband was mentioned. My husband is not Sir Brian Watson from Raleigh, North Carolina. He's Brian Watson from San Martin, California. He's my husband.

Starting point is 02:31:03 I would like my dame name to be Dame Bay Area's Wildfire. Okay. I don't know if it's too late to make a request. I'd love three rolls. No, I can do that right now. Three rolls of sushi with a glass of gin at the round table. Oh, God. What is wrong with you people?

Starting point is 02:31:21 That's what you're into. We're okay with that. Um, want to shout out to two amazing people that took us to Alaska for a wedding anniversary. Kristen and Nick, our last restaurant we ate at in Alaska. After the tip,

Starting point is 02:31:35 our receipt came to three 33.32. No requests. Just want to tell you, you are both amazing. Well, thank you so much. And thank you to everybody who produced this episode of the No Agenda Show, especially our executive and associate

Starting point is 02:31:47 executive producers. We appreciate it. These titles are good forever. If anyone questions you, we'll vouch. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Order. Shut up, slave. Shut up. and a karma for everybody who needs it karma and remember you can support us become a producer and a nice list once again today.

Starting point is 02:32:29 Don Canary, Kashmir, turned 61 on July 30th. Belated happy birthday. Baron JB celebrated on the 8th. Sir Egghead wishes little Islam a happy birthday. Turned 15 on the 8th. Cassandra Fair wishes her husband Mike Royzier a happy birthday. 59 on the 10th. Dave Bazor, his wife Faith Ann, celebrated 49 years on August 11th. Robert Platt wishes his wife Deb a happy birthday for tomorrow.

Starting point is 02:32:54 Dame Slamming, her husband Sir Dude Chink, happy birthday on the 14th. And Baron JB wishes George K a happy birthday, and so do we. Everybody here at the Stafford Management of the best podcast in the universe. It's your birthday. Title changes. Turn and face the slate. Nice changes. Don't want to be a douchebag.

Starting point is 02:33:17 We do have one super non-douchebag because he becomes a baron today. That would be Sir Mike. His additional support of the No Agenda Show, $1,000, takes him up to baron status. These are real, by the way. And believe it or not, I have seen the beginnings of the new donation page, which will explain all of these peerages and titles and everything in a beautiful fashion. It is coming soon. Stay tuned.

Starting point is 02:33:40 We'll let you know. That page will be... devorac.org. If John can find the credentials for the login for the server. And now we have, let's see, we have three dames and two knights. So that's a big blades we got to bring out for today's show, John. Oh, look at this. All right.

Starting point is 02:34:02 Up on the podium, please. The following people. Connie, Lusa Rosa, Ava Rosa, Robert Platt, Dr. Disorder, and Mike Rozier. All of you, I'm very proud to pronounce the Kate As, dames and knights. Dame of the Hundred Four, Dame of the Twisted Wonderland, Sir Sensei, Sir Night of Disorder, Sir Mopar of Fort Bend County, Texas. For you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Foie Gras with 1967 Sauter and DMT, Rolls of Sushi with a Glass of Gin. We also got Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, and, well, hey, there it is it is you know you asked for these fancy things 1967 chateau de coin so turn but no you want the mutton and meat we all know you're going for it i see you while you're feasting on that go over to noagendarings.com you can find a place there to put in your ring size a handy ring sizing guide is there as well and the address where we send

Starting point is 02:35:03 your dame or Knight ring to. Everyone else can go there, take a look, and just drool over the wonderful ring that is the Knight ring or the Dame ring. It's a signet ring. We give you the wax to seal your important correspondence along with, of course, certificate of authenticity. And thank you for becoming Knights and Dames of the No Agenda Roundtable. No Agenda. Be up. Connect. Connect. connect for that protect that you deserve.

Starting point is 02:35:35 No agenda meetups can be found at no agenda meetups.com completely producer organized. It is the compliment to listening to the no agenda show. Already the best podcast in the universe, but the best meetups in the universe happen around the world where producers from every corner of the earth come together and hang out. There's always one near you. And we have a couple of interesting reports. This one's from Alexandria. Hey, it's DC Girl in the morning.

Starting point is 02:35:53 Hey, it's Sir William. Hey, it's Jeff in the morning. Hey, it's Chris. This is a great crowd of people. Hey, this is Jacob, my first meetup from Albany, Georgia. Woo! Hey, in the morning. Christopher and King George, I think they're all spooks here.

Starting point is 02:36:08 Rosa from King George, look out for the ticks. It's the hottest day on Earth, Adam and John, except for the 500 million years the Earth was covered in lava. That was a pretty hot day. This is yet another Chris, and how come there's so many boobs in Alexandria? Serendipitous unity, stay safe. Hi, meetup's good, Hitler bad.

Starting point is 02:36:27 This is Roundy. This is Zach. Are we saying the same thing? I'm John Adams, Rody Crystal Palace, Anchor Baby Eminence. In the morning. Roundy sneaking in there. You know, he got a real job. He doesn't make art for us anymore.

Starting point is 02:36:40 It was nice while it lasted. And DC Girl, nice to have her in there. Alexandria, Virginia. It's also known as the Spook Meetup. We have the Crooked Rhine Meetup here from the Lowlands. Yes, this is Sir Hendrik from the Crooked Rhine Meetup in Snellands.

Starting point is 02:36:58 And we have here for the picnic I'm Sir Andre and I'm sober. Hi, this is Nina and it's my first time today. This is Sebastian, sober as well. Sir Doris, enjoying my fake beer. This is Friar, great time, great food, great meet-up. This is Hans from a sun-drenched bunnock in the Netherlands.

Starting point is 02:37:19 In the morning, everybody. In the morning. Stay safe and healthy. Dame Sabine Boost and yeah, it's never a dull moment here. Really nice here. I'm Stephanie. Angelina here, enjoying myself. Isn't that lovely? Greetings from all of us in Snellands.

Starting point is 02:37:38 In the morning. Yes, no agenda meetups in the lowlands. Enjoy it. Where was that? Smelly? Smelly? Smelly. Now is the time. You guys are crazy. Love you.

Starting point is 02:37:52 I wish I were here earlier. I would have come to that Rhine, the Rhine meetup. They were on the Rhine somewhere. The Rhine. Oh, the Rhine. The best. Dayton had a good meetup. Dayton, Ohio.

Starting point is 02:38:01 Sir Egghead sent a note. He says, thank you. For the love of God, y'all go to a meetup. Thanks, Adam and John, for helping introduce us to cool people. Coming up today, actually, the third annual CTX Float Meet is, well, the float part has been done, but I believe the meat portion starts in about half an hour at the Rail Yard Bar and Grill in San Marcos, Texas. And of course, Baron Scott of the No Agenda Armory organizing that. The second Saturday on a Sunday, Slave Soiree. That probably already is over at Selwood Riverfront Park in Portland, Oregon.

Starting point is 02:38:35 We have the so-called Small Amygdala Meetup coming up at 4.30, so that's not too far away from now. Draft on Vessel Tosa in Wauwatosa, Wisconsin. Sad news, the meetup Monday, the Ozarks Deconstruction Zone, which is a regular one, has been canceled, so in case you were planning on going there, don't.

Starting point is 02:38:54 On our next show day, Thursday, the Mile High meetup, 6.30 Mountain Time, Denver Museum of Nature and Science in Denver, Colorado. Well, go get some science people. And Charlotte's Thursday, Thursday, 7 o'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. There will be a special meetup on August 19th in Maui, Hawaii.

Starting point is 02:39:13 Go to noagentameetups.com to find out about that. We have several more international meetups, including Konya Turkey coming up on the 27th. Another Netherlands meetup on the 9th. We're already into September. These meetups are slamming. You have to go to one. You will not regret.

Starting point is 02:39:31 I've not ever heard one person say, I went to a meetup, man. It sucked. It was no good. I was disappointed. That's the one thing you'll never hear. You will hear crazy drunk high people who are having a good time all over the world

Starting point is 02:39:43 and many sober, as you heard, even in the Netherlands. Noagendameetups.com. Go there. Find a meetup near you. If you can't find one, start one yourself. It's easy and always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you won't be.

Starting point is 02:40:02 Drink it or hell to blame. You want to be where you won't be. Drink it all, hell to blame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. Ba-da-da-da-da-dum-bum-bum. It's like a party. All right, a couple of, do you have any meetups? Meetups, ISOs, I mean? Meetups, ISOs. Oh, I do have ISOs.

Starting point is 02:40:21 Yeah, how many do you have? I have three. I have three. Let's do your three first. Okay. Let's start with lunacy. It's lunacy. AJ.

Starting point is 02:40:32 I almost can't go wrong with an AJ ISO, to be honest, but let's see what else you got. Psychic. Gets like he's a psychic. Okay. Yeah. And last is timeout. Time's running out. Two AJ wow all right let me let me see if i can top that oh my god not bad not bad i heard you kind of sniffle i'm on a whole bunch of different

Starting point is 02:40:59 drugs it's a little muddly maybe this one hot heavy and hard hey that's too ridiculous sorry oh my god you don't like that one i like that and i like time's running out time's running out it's aj man we can always play aj you don't always get all right then run your laughing guy okay laughing guy do you know who the laughing guy is i'm not going to tell you you won't want it i know you have to tell me it's morning joe oh gee i told you you didn't want to know who it was okay um i've got the spy we have to at least do this. This is the spy, Chinese spy. Yeah, I got some of that.

Starting point is 02:41:48 Cut. We cut the one spy. We finally get a spy in there. They caught him immediately. The CIA's got a mole. China may have caught a U.S. spy. The communist country is saying so, and the American CIA has said it's developing its network in the communist

Starting point is 02:42:05 country. Here's NTD's Tiffany Meyer with more. Beijing says it's found an American spy in its midst. Surnamed Zeng, the Chinese national is under arrest on suspicion of spying for the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, or CIA. The news follows recent word from the agency that it's working to rebuild its spy network inside China. Here's that clip from CIA Director William Burns. About a decade ago, the CIA rolled up, China rolled up a lot of CIA operations in China. A dozen or more CIA. Sounds like he's crying. That's the host. Oh, I was going to say, that's not Burns. China rolled up a lot of CIA operations in China. A dozen or more CIA sources were arrested or worse, executed.

Starting point is 02:42:58 Have you rebuilt? Yeah, we've made progress and we're working very hard over recent years to ensure that we have a strong human intelligence capability to complement what we can acquire through other methods. Over a decade ago, Beijing killed or detained over a dozen CIA sources. One of them was shot in front of his co-workers in the courtyard of a staked building inside China. Back to the latest arrest, China says the newly captured alleged spy had worked from industrial group linked to the Chinese military. The group sent Zhang to Italy to further his studies. But while there, he reportedly got acquainted with a local CIA agent. The report refers to the U.S. agent as Seth.

Starting point is 02:43:44 It goes on to say that Zhang later signed contracts with the U.S. agent as Seth. It goes on to say that Zhang later signed contracts with the U.S. intelligence agency. In exchange, he was promised large sums of money and a smooth U.S. immigration process for his entire family. The statement continues that Zhang repeatedly

Starting point is 02:44:00 Wait a minute. They signed contracts now with the spies? But it says. This is, I think, the problem. They had, like, if you remember, we did a story about 10 years ago about how the CIA... Don't paper the deal. That they re-orged, and instead of having, I guess they used to have all these field guys that would solicit somebody and get them working for them individually. It was kind of off the books and only known by that one agent.

Starting point is 02:44:30 And they decided to centralize a database because they need a database. They got a computer. And that's how they caught them. So they put all the spy, listed the spies. You know, there's this problem of, whoa, I got the list of all the spies. This is so dumb. The BBC had a different version of that. Well, there's a part two of this.

Starting point is 02:44:49 Let me play you part two. The updated law gives Beijing additional authority to sniff out and punish acts that it deems a threat to its national security. Several U.S. officials have already expressed concerns over the new counter-espionage law. At the same time, tensions are still mounting between Washington and Beijing. The U.S. embassy in China hasn't responded to the matter. Now, who announced this? Did the CIA come out and say, hey, one of our guys got caught? Is that what they did?

Starting point is 02:45:20 I don't know where it came from. NTD probably picked it off of Chinese news. Here's BBC with a version of a report. China says it's uncovered a spy recruited by the US intelligence service, the CIA. The State Security Ministry said the Chinese national, known only by the surname Zong, was employed at a military organization and was taken on by the Americans during a work trip to Italy. Our Asia-Pacific editor, Will Leonardo, is with me in the studio.

Starting point is 02:45:48 Tell us more about what China is saying about this agent. So, yes, this is a statement from the Chinese security ministry. It says this man called Zeng in his 50s, who worked for what's described as a military industrial group, was sent to Italy. And there he was alleged to have met a U.S. embassy official by the name of Seth. It appears they lived it up together in Italy. They went to dinner parties, they went on outings, they went to

Starting point is 02:46:09 the opera together and there's some interesting wording in the statement that says that Zung... The old gay spy routine. Hey, let's go to the opera....to have met a US embassy official by the name of Seth. It appears they lived it up together in Italy. They went to dinner parties, they went on outings, they went to the opera together. And there's some interesting wording in the statement. It says that Zeng became psychologically dependent and succumbed to Western values. Seth is then said to have offered Zeng a large sum of money and immigration to the US for himself and his family. And Zeng signed an espionage agreement to provide sensitive material about Chinese military once back in China.

Starting point is 02:46:44 to provide sensitive material about Chinese military once back in China. Once back in the country, he met up with CIA agents, alleged multiple times, to provide what's been described as a large amount of core intelligence. There's no word on what that is. The ministry said it was taking compulsory measures against Zeng and would be handed to prosecution services soon. But there's been no independent confirmation and no word from the US authorities,

Starting point is 02:47:03 although it's unlikely that they'll be speaking a lot on this topic. This confusion confuses me even more. So the guy went to Italy. He lived it up with Seth. Went to the opera. You're all Seth. Went to the opera. Went to the opera.

Starting point is 02:47:20 Opera. Together. We were living it up. Usually, if I'm going to the opera, I'm not going with a guy. And what is the state of play between China and the US when it comes to espionage? Well, there seems to be a rare detailed

Starting point is 02:47:34 disclosure from China, even though Beijing has long claimed foreign forces are trying to undermine the country. It recently expanded its definition of espionage, made it slightly more vague to include things in the private sector, including US firms and that sort of thing. And it comes, as you say, amid heightened tensions

Starting point is 02:47:49 between the two great powers over trade, over military. We've had those restrictions of chips to China by the US authorities. And it's also the latest accusation of espionage from either side. Last week, we had two US Navy sailors arrested in California for allegedly providing material to Chinese authorities. And also, it comes a few months after the CIA director, Bill Burns, said the agency was trying to expand its Chinese network after a catastrophic exposure event in which several spies were lost. This is just a takedown to CIA. This is just more like, oh, CIA is no good.

Starting point is 02:48:25 They can't even get a guy who goes to the opera to stay safe. No, the FBI wants the job. Yeah, something like that. You know, the FBI's taking over the Secret Service's job and also, I don't know if I have a clip of this, but, you know, I'm shameful I don't.

Starting point is 02:48:42 Is the current situation in Ecuador. Oh, I do have a clip, actually Is the current situation in Ecuador. Oh, I do have a clip, actually. Because that guy was shot. It turns out now they're asking for the FBI's help about this assassination. Yeah. And obviously this is a takeover of Ecuador. We need Ecuador because of the oil.

Starting point is 02:48:59 I think one of our producers sent us some information about what's going on there. He did. And this is like, what's going on there did and this is like what's the fbi doing in ecuador and this is again brings me back to my complaint about fbi international the tv show by dick wolf when does the fbi become this world police six colombian men are charged with the assassination of an ecuadorian presidential candidate officials say the suspect in wednesday's shooting are part of a drug trafficking ring. The candidate had campaigned on fighting crime and corruption. A number of other candidates have suspended their campaigns in the wake of the killing. Yeah, I have the note

Starting point is 02:49:33 about about the they called the FBI. They called the FBI not to say they said, hey, FBI, we need your help. Come on in. That's weird. I find it peculiar to say the least, but I think they were trying to take over Ecuador. We've already got the belt of Africa. And by the way, I was looking into it. The belt of Africa, which does go from coast to coast, and all the countries that are going to side with Niger are all part of the belt, the coup belt,

Starting point is 02:50:01 which is suspicious in itself. And of course, the Russians are somehow there. How about the trans African rail line that China? Yeah, well, that was originally going to go through Central African Republican over to Cameroon. Now that's not going to happen. Because Sudan is part of this of the belt. And so I think that that part of it has something to do with it.

Starting point is 02:50:26 But I have two Niger clips. Oh, hold on a second. The Niger update and then a little ditty about France. Yeah, hold on. Because before we do that, I thought we had, hmm. Well, that's weird. I thought we had an Africa jingle. Someone made an Africa. I'll play your Niger stuff. Hold on a second.

Starting point is 02:50:48 Making plans for Niger. West African nations on Friday worked on plans for a possible military intervention in Niger. The regional bloc also pledged to enforce sanctions, travel bans and acid freezes under Junta, which ousted former President Mohamed Bazoum on July 26. After a summit of its heads of state, ICAWAS ordered the activation of a standby force for possible use against the junta. It said it had not given up hope of a peaceful resolution to the crisis, but that all options, including military action, were possible. Nigeria's President Bolola Tinubu. As you will see from the community of this extraordinary summit, no option is taken off the table, including the use of force.

Starting point is 02:51:38 It is not clear how big the force would be, if it would actually invade, and which countries would contribute. Security analysts said ECOWAS force could take weeks or longer to assemble, potentially leaving room for negotiations. The junta has said it would defend the country against any foreign attack. So there's still a lot of unknowns, but this is a significant next step and certainly an escalation of tensions, at least between the regional bloc and the HENTA bloc that seems to be forming right now, between Mali, Burkina Faso, and Niger specifically. In the capital, Ounyami, residents

Starting point is 02:52:14 condemned the military intervention plan. ECOWAS needs to understand what the people of the various member countries expect of it. What is expected of ECOWAS is to attack the causes of coup d'etat, not the consequences. The European Union and the United States reiterated concern about the conditions under which Bazoum and his family were being detained. Yeah, we can... Hold on. It's a little long. Now I know why I couldn't find it.

Starting point is 02:53:01 Okay. Yeah, it sucks. Sorry. I found it, it sucks. Sorry. I found it, though. No punch. So, yeah, we're concerned about how the other guy's being treated. We didn't say anything about our concerns about the place being taken over. No.

Starting point is 02:53:17 No! We're not. So here's part two. Uranium-rich Niger is a key ally for the West in the fight against Islamist militants in the Siyah region. Until the coup, it was also aligned with the West after neighbouring Mali and others turned against former colonial power France in favour of closer ties with Russia. France said late on Thursday it fully backed all the conclusions of IKU's meeting, but it stayed clear of outlining any concrete support it could give to any potential intervention.

Starting point is 02:53:49 So he booted France out. Yeah, I think that was part of the plan. I mean, France needed Niger for the uranium because they still use, I think it used to be 70, but it's probably 55-60% atomic energy. I still think it's over in the 70s or 80s.

Starting point is 02:54:04 So that's out. The gas pipeline. This is not even about Africa. This is about Europe. We're just screwing Europe. Yeah, this cuts off. If the French want to buy uranium, they can buy it from the Russians. The Russians.

Starting point is 02:54:17 Yes, thank you, Hill. And yeah, this is, France got screwed on this deal. I'm sure they were extracting uranium for next to nothing. We will continue to monitor this as we learn more about Africa than we ever wanted to know. Yeah, I didn't want to know anything. Two quickies that we have to play just to get them on record. Tonight, disgraced former billionaire and cryptocurrency CEO Sam Bankman-Fried set back to jail after prosecutors accused him of giving a document to a media outlet to intimidate a witness, a judge revoking the 31-year-old's $250 million bail,

Starting point is 02:54:56 remanding him into the custody of U.S. Marshals. Prosecutors say Bankman-Fried tried to discredit a trial witness and taint the jury pool when he shared excerpts of his ex-girlfriend Caroline Ellison's personal documents with the New York Times. Ellison led Bankman Freed's Alameda Research Fund. She's pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate in the investigation into allegations Bankman Freed defrauded customers and lenders of his now bankrupt cryptocurrency company FTX. Speaking with our George Stephanopoulos late last year. I'm trying to focus on what I can do going forward to be helpful. And, you know.

Starting point is 02:55:34 You know, they're cleaning everything up. Everybody, you know, he needed to go away. He's dangerous. He's dangerous. He knows way too much about all the campaign contributions he about the money to ukraine he knows too much speaking of ukraine this happened and tonight president zielinski announcing a crackdown on corruption firing every regional military recruitment chief abc's chief foreign correspondent ian panel is in ukraine

Starting point is 02:56:03 tonight a devastating russian missile strike in zapaporizhia in the southeast of Ukraine. Video circulating online showing the moment one of the ballistic missiles flew overhead yesterday. And the terrifying moment it lands, exploding. Residents running for their lives. Two missiles slamming next to a hotel. One woman died, 19 were injured, including four children, according to the state governor. And tonight, President Zelensky firing every single regional military enlistment chief across Ukraine amid a major corruption scandal.

Starting point is 02:56:39 Lindsay, some of these officers are accused of taking bribes so people can dodge military enlistment and Zelensky saying the way they treat actual warriors is immoral. Well, that's a terrible version of that story because they interrupted it with a drone strike. I have my story is not much better, but I have another clip that at least doesn't interrupt it. Yeah, brings in leaves the drone strike intact, yes. No, it moves the drone strike out and keeps this corruption thing, what is going on with these,

Starting point is 02:57:11 anybody in their right mind, they're bailing out of the country. Well, yes, and we're bailing out too. This is the beginning. Oh, Zelensky. It's under Ukraine. Ukrainian state investigators have uncovered some shady business dealings in military recruitment offices. To paint the picture, 112 criminal cases have been opened, exposing officials allegedly making illegal money.

Starting point is 02:57:38 And they're also accused of transporting new recruits across borders to other countries. Now, how much money was actually taken is still unknown. However, all of this follows a scandal in the Ukrainian city of Odessa. A recruitment official's family in Spain was found owning properties worth millions of dollars. The corruption scandal comes at a time when Ukraine's long-awaited counteroffensive has been hampered by Russian defense lines. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky quickly responded to the corruption allegations and fired all military recruitment officers in the country. And he said this.

Starting point is 02:58:18 This system should be run by people who know exactly what war is and why cynicism and bribery in times of war constitute treason. This is a message, and I'm not exactly sure what it is, but if it's about exposing more corruption, there's a lot to come. There's entire telegram channels filled with high-ranking Ukrainian officials in foreign countries, in Western Europe, in Austria. They've got, you know, Bugattis, Veyron. They've got, you know, Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Rolls Royces. They've got multimillion-dollar condos. Yeah, thanks to the American taxpayer. It's all our money, of course.

Starting point is 02:59:01 So maybe they're finally winding this down. I mean, Africa's heating up. This has got to go. But how do we close it out? How do we finish it? They don't have a nexus strategy. We know that. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:59:15 Well, peace. It's a crazy idea. But we could just have peace. Well, not with Zelensky. Are they going to have to do something about that guy? Where's Alex Jones with his scenario? We'll have peace after...

Starting point is 02:59:31 I know what's going to happen to Zelensky. Sucked into a jet engine. If he's smart, he's going to go to Gestalt, Switzerland as fast as he can. I hear Madrid is the new place to hang out. That's where all the elites are.

Starting point is 02:59:49 Madrid. Because Madrid is like you can completely live in luxury and disappear. It's a nice big town. It's fun. Madrid, that's where a lot of the royal family are hanging out now. Madrid seems the place to be. Okay. That's where he should go then.

Starting point is 03:00:04 Zelensky out. Vicky Newland puts in some new people, they go for peace. Well, here's what they have to get, but they can't just let Zelensky escape and just leave everything. He's got to be ousted by some general, some phony baloney ousting, and then he's going to flee to madrid how about the people how about

Starting point is 03:00:27 the people no the people won't do anything no obviously it would have happened by now it's got to be a general some guy and then he's going to get he's going to escape narrowly escape and end up in madrid or wherever wants to go. I don't like your scenario. I think jet engine is much better. It's more fun. Hoping people get sucked into jet engines for over a year. You wait. You wait.

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