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banana melons adam curry john c devora it's thursday august 17 2023 this is your award winning get my nation media assassination episode 1582 this is no agenda guaranteed lawful but awful and broadcasting live from 20 miles south of the austin of catalonia in sita spain in the morning everybody i. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where the sun is shining and maybe we're going to get a summer, I'm John C. DeVore. It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill. In the morning. It's very weird. Everything sounds off.

Maybe it's my ears. I don't know. Sounds weird. What have you been eating? I had a lobster uh soup with uh with rice well i mean this is what you eat here in uh in in catalonia catalonia any travel horror stories well i got i do have a i do have some some boots on the ground information. We left Amsterdam on, when was it? Tuesday?

Monday? I can't even remember. Tuesday, I guess. And we flew with the lovely Vueling Airlines. V-E-U-L-I-N-G. This is kind of like the Spirit Airlines of Europe. Dueling? Vueling. V-E-U-L-I. Dueling? Vueling.

V-E-U-L-I-N-G. Vueling. I think anybody in Europe is probably cringing when they hear that. Maybe. I mean, what a crazy name. Vueling, yeah. I don't know. It must be a sub-brand of something, but the seats are almost standing.

Remember that crazy picture? Yeah, I remember. That's kind of what it feels like. The whole idea, put everybody standing. That's right. And the whole thing kind of felt like it was held together with gaffer tape and bailing wire. But okay, we made it. It's nice.

You know, the European Union, no passports needed. Man, the airport in Barcelona, because that's how i have to pronounce it john barcelona that's not how you pronounce it in barcelona that is exactly how they all pronounce it they all say we got a letter from a barcelonian who made a big stink about that they don't say barcelona they say barcelona well they can maybe say Barcelona. You talk a little bit like that. It's Jason Calacanis' Barcelona. So the last time I was here was, I think, 2002. And a lot has changed, including the airport. This airport is huge.

They've added on a whole new terminal. It's phenomenal how modern and big it is. And we're in Sitges, which is about 20 miles south of Barcelona. They have a lot of big trade shows there, so I guess they need that big airport. Oh, for sure. And Sitges is what they call the

I guess the little Ibiza. Ibiza, there's another one. You can't say Ibiza, which is how you spell it, but Ibiza. Ibiza. A friend how you spell it, but Ibiza. Ibiza. A friend of mine here has been sick for a while, and so that was actually the genesis of this entire trip was to come and see him. And so we kind of put it all into our vacation.

Yeah. Well, I grew up with him. He was my next door neighbor in Holland. So some observations. First of all,ona is kind of like the austin of texas and catalonia would be texas if you recall they tried to secede from uh from spain about uh seven years ago was it 20 no 2017 remember that and they were beating the people over they were beating the people over the head who wanted to go vote in the referendum. There's still some PTSD here about that.

But that's kind of the comparison people make. Catalonia is like Texas and Barcelona is kind of like Austin. is like Texas, and Barcelona is kind of like Austin. And, man, I learned a lot. We had a tour guide who took us around the Sagrada Familia, which is the Antoni Gaudi Church. I'm sure you've been here. I'm sure you've seen the church.

Yeah, I've been in there. It's nice. You haven't been in the church. It'll be done. It'll be done in 100 years. Well, no, that's what they said when I was here in 2003. They said, oh, another 90 years, it'll be done. But, and there was no inside. Now the inside is almost completed.

Well, when I was there, the inside was half done. Well, when was that? Because I was here in 2003. You couldn't even go inside. It was about the 2012. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah yeah okay yeah yeah that's right that's when they started in 2010 they started building on the inside no no you go inside and roam around yeah you see a bunch of people watching other people do nothing no no it's beautiful now it's really

it was very impressive but it doesn't matter. It was impressive then. It's just an impressive church, but it's really the damnedest thing. It is. It's a project. It is. Yeah, it was a 250-year project. That was really cool. Now, walking around with a tour guide, I learned some important things. The most important thing is Black Lives Matter is here as well.

Not just in the netherlands with the black peats where the now they have the slay museum and they've paid a hundred million in reparations to um i think is it indonesia or something and now uh suriname suriname wants reparations but here here turns out those horrible, horrible Catalonians were a part of the triangle trade of cotton in the U.S. with the textiles being made here from the U.S. cotton, which I did not know. And they're taking down Christopher Columbus's statues. The guy was from here. What? In Spain, they're taking down Christopher Clinton.

Yes, yes, yes. What a bunch of maniacs. No, but that's what I'm saying. This is a worldwide thing. You don't hear about that. But this Black Lives Matter and the trans stuff, it's worldwide. It's not just happening in our neck of the woods. Really quite amazing.

That's how you do it. Yeah it's not it's not good marxist revolutions aren't meant to be local well there's a quote you can put that on a t-shirt john c devorek marxist revolutions aren't meant to be local and then the only other thing that um that i think is show worthy well there's a lot that i'd think is show worthy, well, there's a lot that I think is show worthy, but since you're marginally entertained, I tried the IQOS. Remember, this is the non-combustible tobacco product that is supposed to replace vaping eventually in the United States. Well, everybody is using them here. Oh, that's interesting. And I said, hey, man, can I have a hit off of that? I got to taste this.

So it's like a big vape cartridge. And then there's this small, almost like half a cigarette in size and in diameter that goes into the cartridge and a little bit of the filter sticks out. and a little bit of the filter sticks out. And I guess then it connects with the battery and it produces vapor, but it's not vapor from, you know, the vape liquid that is getting liquefied, which is, you know, including the glycerin or whatever is in the vape. But it's actually heating up tobacco, but not burning it, just heating it.

So it doesn't produce smoke. It produces a form of vapor. It tastes like total crap. It's horrible. Now, I'm a non-smoker now. I'm an ex-smoker. But I know what a smoke would taste like, and it is nasty. It would get people to stop smoking.

I don't think that's the point. It's like, if you're not burning the tobacco, you're just not getting the right, you're not doing it right. It just doesn't taste right at all. So anyway, we're here until, say we're here tomorrow. And then Saturday we fly off to Italy and then I'll be. So did you see your friend? Of course. I've had some lunches with him and he's, you know, he can't get around very well.

But yeah, he's hanging in there. Are you going to go see Willow in Italy? Willow is going to come see us, actually. She's driving. We're about an hour and a half away from them. So she's going to come down with the whole family. Yeah, absolutely. And this is where you say, well, that's nice. That's nice. Okay. Absolutely. And this is where you say, well, that's nice.

That's nice. Okay. Meanwhile, there's a lot of stuff happening in the world. Yeah. A lot of nutty stuff. While you were gone, they indicted Trump again, and this made a big fuss of the same thing. This has been fantastic. It's like a big fuss of the same thing this has been this has been fantastic it's

like a rerun of the same stuff only this time they really got him by the balls oh yeah if you listen to any of the msnbc stuff as well his goose is cooked i love npr they um they had this uh i don't know who this who was this nut job. Can't remember who this lady is. But, you know, the question was, it's a how does Trump compare to that other criminal in American presidential history? Richard Nixon. The Watergate scandal led to President Richard Nixon's resignation in 1974. It set a standard for presidential wrongdoing. But ex-president Donald Trump's alleged criminality now appears set to far exceed that standard. Should the four indictments currently brought against him

ultimately win out in court? He's not going to resign. Our colleague Stephen Skeap spoke earlier about all this with Jill Weinbanks. She served as an assistant special prosecutor in the Watergate investigation. So this is someone who would know because she's so old she was an assistant prosecutor in the Watergate investigation. So this is someone who would know because she's so old,

she was an assistant prosecutor in the Watergate investigation. I want to ask a question that I think you have been asked 47,000 times before, but I think it is a reasonable place to start. How do the accusations against Trump in trying to overturn an election compare to Watergate? There's no comparison in my mind. The actions of Donald Trump leading up to January 6th and continuing to this day, to me, are much more dangerous to democracy than anything Richard Nixon did. Richard Nixon was guilty. He was a crook. He should have been indicted. He shouldn't have been pardoned. But what he did is child's play compared to what happened.

I believe his pardon enabled what happened. But I never feared for democracy the way I do now. Let's remember what it was. What are these people afraid of? I've never never feared for democracy the way I do now. This is quite interesting. They all say the same thing. They all say he's a threat to democracy somehow. I never feared for democracy the way I do now.

Why is she fearing now? This guy's got 91 indictments against him from various sources. Why is she more afraid now than ever before? Was she more afraid now than she was before Trump was indicted? Probably because she knows it's an old bull crap. It shouldn't even be on the air. Was that Nixon did. Aides and associates of Nixon conducted a burglary of the Democratic National Committee headquarters in Washington, D.C.,

and the investigation of that led to a lot of other political so-called dirty tricks. Did Nixon at some level accept? Wait, wait. It led to what other dirty tricks? I don't know. You were you were paying attention then, not me. Yeah, and I don't remember any other other dirty tricks. Once the Watergate thing broke, it's everything. The door was shut on dirty tricks the dirty tricks took place before watergate i don't know i have no idea they're just making this stuff up did nixon getting weaker by the minute listening to these people at some level except that democratic system he needed to listen to the will of the people and deal with reality he did he knew shame the will of the people was voting in

donald trump and he was told that he would be convicted in the senate on the charges of impeachment that had been voted if he didn't resign and he resigned is that how it went well what happened was they had the goods on him because the whole thing was, as you remember, if you read the Baker book, Russ Baker's book, Family of Secrets, where they outlined the fact that this whole thing was a CIA scheme to get rid of Nixon. And so the plumbers, the guys who did Watergate were all CIA operatives and they purposely did it in a slop, a slipshod way to get caught. That's what the book says. And he has the research to back it up. And so what they're saying is wrong. Thank you.

The charges of impeachment that had been voted if he didn't resign and he resigned. acknowledged officially and in fact probably denied in the David Frost interview that he was guilty because he said it's not illegal if you're the president. But he did respond to the will of the people. It was clear that he had lost the support of America and of his own party. This is weird that she says this because you're right. The will of the people, at least the Trump people, seems to be increasingly more towards bringing him back in. Yeah. Instead of by democratic election. What happened with with Nixon is that they set this up so well. And of course, the CIA at the time was really even though that was after the church committee, I believe. But it was

still dominating this situation they had to get rid of him and this is the way you would get rid of him so they set him up and then they went to the republican cohorts and the republicans are the ones that got him to resign who was running the cia then do you remember oh woolsey maybe i'll have to check it out. It's almost. We'll look at it. We'll look it up. We'll look it up. I don't think maybe it may or may not have been Woolsey.

Erica and of his own party. This was a time of bipartisanship. It was a time of facts. And everybody accepted the facts, including him, which was that he had been found to have plenty of evidence against him showing his guilt, and he resigned. So this is just propaganda, basically. NPR, National Propaganda Radio. I think that was, was that NPR? Yeah, that was NPR. Oh, I had some more NPR.

That was NPR, yeah. What you got? Well, let's go Georgia updates, Georgia indictment updates. We next see former President Trump in court. This is NTD, so it's a little more objective. Document released this afternoon proposes an arraignment date and a trial date. NTD's Melina Wisecup is at the Fulton County Courthouse, and she joins us with more. Melina, tell us about this new motion.

So I do want to be very clear here because we did just get clarification from the Fulton County Sheriff's Office that arraignment and booking are actually totally separate. So there is still an August 25th that is a next Friday deadline for all 19 of these defendants to come here to be booked by the Fulton County Sheriff's Office. But now there is a newly proposed date for arraignment. That is the week of September 5th. The DA just filed that motion to the court today. She also proposed a March 4th trial date. If we could just show up on the screen here exactly what this document shows, the motion that the DA filed, if we could just pull that up. So I'll read the reasoning for this requested arraignment date and trial date. They said they don't want to conflict with other court hearings and trials that Trump has, stating the state of Georgia proposes certain deadlines that do not conflict with these other courts already scheduled hearings and trial dates.

I do want to point out the March 4th trial date because that is a very special day. So it is Super Tuesday, a day before Super Tuesday, actually. And that's the day that the greatest number of U.S. states hold primary elections. So that's a very interesting timing for this trial to unfold for former President Trump, considering he is the leading candidate in the GOP primary race right now. Now, just in case you missed it, a quick update. The first person to respond to these indictments was Mark Meadows. He filed for the court the case to be moved to a federal court, arguing that he does have protection because he was a sitting official

at the time that these actions took place. Okay, let's just understand this. I have looked at the Georgia indictments, and I understand that they desperately want to get mugshots, and they desperately want to do this the day before Super Tuesday. Is anyone fooled by this? Is anyone really thinking? Is anyone really fooled by this? Is anyone really thinking? Yes, the entire Democrat Party, your PBS people, MSNBC and CNN, they're all fooled by it.

And if anybody thinks they're insincere, I would challenge that. That's incredible. It's really incredible. And truly true to the word, incredible. It's not credible. It's crazy. You're right. It's incredible. It's truly crazy. The head of the CIA during Nixon was Helms, who was the counterintelligence superstar that was a spook at the time that Brand thinks. He would be the guy that set something like that up.

Okay. All right. Well, so, so, okay. I mean, I,

I, I mean, all I hear is just people are Trump. That's all the news seems to be, except for, you know, luckily we have a devastation in Maui. We can traumatize people with that.

Um, I get this go part two of this. All right. All right. So Melina, on a separate but related note. Do you think that this is NTD, right? Are the NTD people all in? Are they buying it? No. There's emerging information about the DOJ's 2020 election case against Trump.

Special Counsel Jack Smith got very personal information about Trump through issuing a warrant on X, formerly known as Twitter. Tell us more about that. Oh, yeah. So Jack Smith, the special counsel from the DOJ, who's leading that investigation and that case into President Trump's 2020 election case there in the D.C. court. He obtained very, very personal information. It was so personal that Twitter actually called it confidential information. The things that he requested and actually got access from a judge are things such as he got all records from October of 2020 to January of 2021. That includes anything that Trump searched on his personal Twitter account, as well as any

posts that he made, even those posts that were just drafts. They also got those records, also messages, direct messages that may or may not have been sent that may have only been drafts. They also got information on locations of users' accounts and also any people who Trump blocked or followed during that time period, as well as any users on Twitter. Screw NTD. They're just as jacked up as anybody else. Who liked or shared the president's post. So it does stretch further than just former President Trump. Now, Twitter, knowing this was confidential information, did try to block this warrant that Jack Smith was requesting.

But a judge ultimately sided with Jack Smith. And furthermore, the judge even ruled that Trump was not even allowed to know that this data on him was being collected and shared with special counsel Jack Smith. Hold on a second. I don't like the way they're reporting that because I have a report here from The Hills Rising.

Okay, but before you do that, I don't think the public should put up with the fact that now he's got a list of everyone who's ever favorited or liked a Trump post. Oh, who could have said in there? Yeah, no, I know. Well, of course. This is disgusting. No, that's par for the course, baby. Here, listen, this actually this is a report I had from for the last show.

Didn't play it. Twitter was subpoenaed by the Justice Department for Trump tweet info, and they refused to comply and got a three hundred fifty thousand dollar fine. But I'm reading more closely. And part of the so what the Justice Department sought was we I guess we don't know exactly because obviously the tweets are public. But there could be information that Twitter has about under what circumstances they were sent, maybe like what location they were sent from. Some other maybe statistics about their reach, those kinds of things. But they also in this the search warrant, whereas it it was. There was a non-disclosure force on them. So Twitter was also going, ex-Elon Musk, was going to be prohibited from saying that the Justice Department, from publicly saying that the Justice Department had pursued this information.

And Twitter said, we will, we are willing to produce the information, but we do not, this violates our First Amendment rights to say we can't say that we're doing this. I thought they didn't, did they actually produce the information? I thought that they had not. So they said they will not produce the information as long as that stipulation, they said if you took away that stipulation, we will produce the information. Well, they've already violated that stipulation by talking about the government requesting the documents. Or am I misunderstanding what the stipulation was?

This is now public because they've been fined for not complying with it. But this was months ago when this demand was made. So they exceeded the deadline for this to hand over the information because the Justice Department didn't agree to drop that stipulation. Okay. So now I'm— This is a slipshod report for one thing why they fought why are they getting fined if you just can't just find people out of the blue for not telling you something unless you had a warrant and the warrant would have made you do

it so this this this is terrible you're saying that's not true that they didn't get fined i'm wondering whether they did nobody else has reported on this this 350 000 fine see so this is all about what's the fine for for not complying with the judge's order but that's not the way they presented they said they got fined for not complying with the request. Here's, okay, here's Time Magazine. Musk's ex-fine $350,000 in secret Justice Department fight over Trump records for defying a judge's deadline to comply with the Justice Department search warrant. Okay, but that's different. That's not the way these other guys reported.

Right. But the whole thing is, they're crazy. This is, this is, thing is they're crazy. This, this is, this is, I agree. I mean, and by the way, this kind of shows you that,

oh, this, oh yeah. Oh yeah. Way to go. Musk. Yeah. He's good.

The whole, the whole X and I'm, I'm just going to take credit for it. Twitter is ruined. Twitter is completely ruined, as predicted. And now this Yaccarino lady is in there. Who is, you know, oh, everything's good now, by the way. They're cash flow positive.

Everything's hunky-dory as they get ready to become your bank. Welcome back, Linda Yaccarino, newly appointed CEO of Muscle Controversial. Before we go on to this, can we... I'll come back to Trump. I just want to play this as an intro. So before we go on to this, can we... I'll come back to Trump. I just want to play this as an intro. X sitting down with CNBC today and saying that the company is soon to be cash flow positive.

I've been at the company eight weeks. The operational run rate right now... Is it genius? Pretty close to break even. Close to break even? Close to break even. We're pacing well. When you think about the cost discipline that I mentioned, and I mean incredible cost discipline before I arrived at the company.

What is she saying? She's saying that. Glock discipline. She's saying. Discipline? Glock discipline. They bring a gun in there and pull people's heads. Cost discipline. Oh, cost.

Yes. a gun in there and pull people's heads? Cost discipline. Oh, cost. Yes. X is starting to hire again after Elon Musk cut the number of employees from around 8,000 to over 1,000 now. Our Julia Borshin joins us now to discuss. Julia,

I guess my question is, Linda Yaccarina went in there with her advertising background. Has she captured the market already or is it just too soon to say? I mean, look, we don't have data on what's going on inside the organization. But the fact that she shared that they're close to breakeven does indicate progress. She also talked a lot about how they're working on things like trust and safety.

These are things that are obviously big concerns with advertisers. And what she laid out was a vision of, and I'm going to use her words here, freedom of speech, not reach. Lawful, but not awful. This idea that they want to enable really a free speech platform, but also create an environment that is very safe for brands. And that's clearly been a big priority for her, Steve. So it sounds like she's making progress and bringing more brands back on the platform. and bringing more brands back on the platform. But it's mostly, to me, fascinating to see how this company will fit into a much broader company with payments, with video calls, and really going beyond just being a platform for communication.

So the one thing Yaccarino is doing well is she is creating new language, although we've heard the lawful but awful, and now suddenly CNBC. Was that Darren O'Neill's old phrase? No, no, no. We got this along. This was a government phrase. You know, like Trump, his tweets are lawful but awful.

But now she's throwing in freedom of speech but not of reach. In other words, you're going to get shadow banned. You can post all you want. You're in the Bozo filter. You know, it's like post all you want. No one in the Bozo filter. It's like post all you want. No one's going to see it. Freedom of speech, but not of reach.

How do you start when you're asking a question? How do you start with the phrase, I mean, look? Well, that's if you're at CNBC. I mean, look. They have a very high bar to entry for their journalists there. You got to be really good. So I mean, look is a good way to start. Let's go back to Trump. Here's the

NBC report of the Georgia indictment. A sweeping set of charges announced in a late night news conference by Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis. Is it Fannie or Fannie? Because I think Fannie is funnier. I thought it was Fannie. I think it's Fannie. The indictment brings felony charges against Donald John Trump.

She alleges Mr. Trump and 18 others unlawfully conspired in a criminal enterprise to try and overturn President Biden's narrow win in Georgia. Rather than abide by Georgia's legal process for election challenges, the defendants engaged in a criminal racketeering enterprise to overturn Georgia's presidential election result. Cameras tracked nearly every step as the indictment was brought to a judge and unsealed inside 13 charges for Mr. Trump, including pressuring public officials to violate their oath, conspiracy to commit forgery and making false statements. The indictment also alleges Trump allies recruited individuals to convene and cast fake electoral college votes to disrupt and delay the Biden win. This is this is the one that bothers me. Because instead of saying an alternate slate of electors, which that's what it was, which is part of the process, they just report it as fake, fake electors. Or am I incorrect? You're totally correct. And that's NBC.

You're totally correct. And that's NBC. Either they really don't know how our system works. I think a lot of people don't know. People still probably think, oh, I vote and my vote is what elects the president. No, no, it's the electoral college. And I think every election sends alternate slates of of of electors i think it's always been that way but now they're just calling it fake they're just calling it fake that's not okay the da is using the state's anti-racketeering law which is modeled

on rico statutes to charge all 19 defendants including including Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, who helped pioneer the use of RICO laws to prosecute the mafia in New York. The Trump campaign is blasting the indictment, calling it the latest coordinated strike by a biased prosecutor in an overwhelmingly Democrat jurisdiction, something Willis strongly denies. I make decisions in this office based on the facts and the law. The law is completely nonpartisan. There you go.

Well, I have a couple of clips from NPR that I call them. They're so bad, I call them hit pieces. OK, and then we got to get off of this because now we're sounding like every podcast in the world. But we still have to cover it. I have three clips left and that'll be it. Okay. They're short. Well, this one's not that short.

And the reason is just to deconstruct the hit piece part of it, which is the use of language that's slanted. And here we go with the NPR hit piece on Trump. we go with the NPR hit piece on Trump. With each passing indictment of former President Donald Trump, up to four indictments now, Republicans appear largely unfazed. So what explains that? And what does it mean for the next phase of the Republican presidential primary? NPR senior political correspondent and editor Domenico Montanaro is here to discuss. Good morning, Domenico. Good morning, Leila. Okay, so we should get across first that we're talking about Trump's grip on the base of his party, right? He's viewed far more negatively overall.

I love the grip on the base of his party. Yeah, there's that little imagery there. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I heard it right away. The Republicans are a bunch of dicks. We're talking about Trump's grip on the base of his party, right? He's viewed far more negatively overall.

Yeah, I mean, overall, he remains highly unpopular, you know, and has had a repelling effect, frankly, with independents. You know, Trump has led his party to a few disappointing elections in a row. And he's done very little to expand his base beyond that in the years since winning the White House in 2016. So it's pretty hard to see his winning again in 2024 without some help potentially from a third party. And that's why, you know, you hear Democratic strategists and pollsters really ringing the alarm bells about these potential third party efforts that have been cropping up recently, especially because Trump and Biden are so unpopular right now. Now, Trump is competing in the Republican primary, and that's where he's seen far more favorably. Yeah, I mean, with Republicans, it's a totally different story. They're living in a completely different universe

than Democrats and independents when it comes to Trump. You know, about half of Republican voters seem nearly locked in for him and seem to believe almost everything that he tells them about what he claims are witch hunts and double standards. And that includes his baseless election claims. believe almost everything that he tells them about what he claims are witch hunts and double standards. And that includes his baseless election claims. You know, we know that Joe Biden won in 2020 fair and square, but a recent CNN poll showed that seven in 10 Republicans do not believe that. 56% of those Republicans who said that they believe Biden lost said that they based those views on, get this, solid evidence of which there's none. Right. You know, it really just shows how hyper-partisan our political environments become and the results of Trump and other Republicans' relentless campaigns against expertise and definitive sources.

And once you're able to undermine those things, you can really make people believe almost anything. Wow. This is such a case of what you say to being yourself. You can make people believe almost anything. That's exactly what you're doing in PR. Wow, that's pretty good. I really enjoyed this hit. Wow.

Oh, my goodness. They don't let up with part two. Now, since the Georgia indictment came out on Monday, are you seeing new efforts by Trump to reinforce this sense of grievance with his followers? Grievance? Yeah, definitely. I mean, it's been proven repeatedly in recounts, audits, dozens of court cases that there were no widespread fraud that would have changed any

results. And yet Trump will be at it again Monday in what he's calling a news conference from his golf course in New Jersey. He says he's going to present evidence of fraud that will vindicate him. But this is really an old page from the Trump playbook. He's done this over and over again since he lost in 2020. And all of the conspiracies he's put forward have been disproven. In fact, Georgia Republican Governor Brian Kemp swatted these claims aside yesterday. He said again that the state's elections are secure and fair and that no one has proved anything under oath in a court of law and that there was no substantive fraud. Kemp really is an interesting figure. He's a Republican who rebuffed Trump and then cruised to reelection in a court of law and that there was no substantive fraud. Kemp really is an interesting figure.

He's a Republican who rebuffed Trump and then cruised to reelection in a swing state. But not many other Republicans or any of Trump's current primary opponents, you know, have really chosen or been able to follow that model. Right. And that brings us to the first Republican presidential debate set for Wednesday of next week. First of all, we don't even know if Trump will participate, but either way, his presence will be looming there. Oh, definitely. I mean, we know that the other campaigns have had Trump at the center of their debate prep. You know, some candidates who have been lagging want to make Trump answer for these indictments. I'm thinking of former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and former Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson and others.

But, you know, the thinking in Trump's world is why bother when he's so far ahead in the polls? If there was a time to make a move, you know, you might think it would start next week in a primetime debate. We're going to see because we're less than five months away from the Iowa caucuses now. Alright, now just the last thing on the debates is my

last clip and we can... I just want to respond to this for a moment. What they're succeeding at here is making it so that no one cares about issues anymore now maga america is just mad at a uh a two-tier justice system that's what they're achieving and i'm pretty sure that's on purpose. Let's get everyone all crazy. Let's start some more January 6th type stuff. Yeah. So we can call everybody a terrorist and lock them up. This is very bad. This is, we should. Yeah. You're talking about your threat to democracy. Yeah. We should not even be playing these, these jokesters. It's so bad. Well, I know. Okay. Well, we're going to do it anyway. We can't ignore it. Let's go with Trump.

This is the Trump conundrum in Georgia. Oh, OK. Trump conundrum. The Georgia prosecutor spearheading a racketeering and conspiracy case against former President Donald Trump. This is great, though. I understand and what I've read, that none of these charges by themselves are crimes. When you put them all together, that's racketeering. Well, even more complicated is that if you, they have a litany of crimes, like to say that I think there's 40 of them or something. But not even crimes, but they even said these are not crimes. No, they're not crimes. But if you put two, and it's only two of them. All you have to prove is that any two of them put together is a racketeering charge.

Ah, that's the special Georgia law they have? Yeah, I think it's, well, I think that's all racketeering laws. You only have to prove two of the laundry lists. So which ones are they going to try and prove? Well, I think one was he was picking his nose in public. Okay. And there was a second one. That is pretty offensive.

The Georgia prosecutor spearheading a racketeering and conspiracy case against former President Donald Trump and 18 of his associates is proposing the defendants be arraigned the week of September 5th. Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis has also officially requested that a judge set the trial date for March 4th, 2024. That's just eight days before the state holds a Republican presidential primary. Indictments in Georgia and Washington, D.C. are related to Trump's alleged attempt to subvert the will of the people and overturn the results of the 2020 election. Trump also faces charges involving his handling of classified documents, hush money payments, and was found liable on civil charges of sexual assault. Trump has disputed all of the accusations as politically motivated. Trump was indicted yet again this week. It has not made a difference with many or most Republican voters to this point, it seems.

But NPR's America Montaner reports Republican candidates are grappling with how to handle Trump at their first debate next week, whether he shows up or not. Trump is refusing to sign a pledge to support whomever the Republican nominee is after the GOP primaries. And that's one of the requirements of getting on the debate stage for the Republican Party's first debate next week in Milwaukee. That throws into limbo whether or not the party's front runner for the nomination will even be there. So what's the word on the street? Is Trump going to the debates? Well, he's not good. No, he's not going to sign that document. No, the pledge. Yeah, the pledge. The pledge. Screw those pledges you're supposed to sign. So who's airing the debate? Fox.

Yeah. I predict a ratings bonanza. Watch Trump do some alternative thing somewhere. Do a speech. Counter-programming. I think there may be some ratings bonanza. I'm going to play one more clip. This is the Vivek clip. Have you seen this?

I don't know which one it is. I've seen some Viveks. Watch a Swami. What's the guy running for president? He's all over the news. Ramashwami. Rama Rama? Ramashwami. This guy. You don't like this guy.

I don't like this guy because I think he's a phony. But let's go with this Vivek. Here's where he does his rap. Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy was wrapping up an onstage interview at the Iowa State Fair last weekend when he got his one shot, one opportunity. He opens his mouth, but the words won't come out. He's joking now.

Everybody's joking now. The clock's run out. Time's up. Over, blast. Ramaswamy performed Eminem's classic song, Lose Yourself. Oh, no. Video of his performance was not lost, but was watched around 8 million times on X, formerly known as Twitter. X. For a long shot candidate like Ramaswamy, that was essential.

You're not just competing with your other candidates. You're competing with everything. That's Zach Grautman. He was the campaign manager for Andrew Yang's 2020 presidential run, a run that was powered by viral moments. We spent weeks planning one of his early trips to South Carolina, and he had a bunch of big crowds and was doing really well. That got essentially no coverage.

What got coverage was him jazzercising and ended up doing the Cupid shuffle with a number of older ladies. But he says for those moments to actually work, they have to be authentic. When politicians try to be cool or try to do something that's inauthentic to them, but is popular online, it usually bombs. Which can be online big in the wrong way. So Grauman gave his candidates some timeless advice. Be yourself and have some fun out there. And then what you do as a staff is you build around that and have the cameras going at all times. And you lean into it.

Although you should put a lot of planning into that improvised moment. If the candidate's message is one thing and the candidate as a human is another thing, you can be in trouble, right? Like even if it's an authentic viral moment. There's also no guarantee, Grauman says, that those moments will translate into votes. There's a big difference between doing well on Twitter and getting people to actually show up with a ballot. Vivek Ramaswamy continues to be a long shot candidate. But sometimes losing yourself is a good way to be the center of conversation. Yeah, he's got the hat on backwards.

He's pumping his fists. No, no, no, no. Jumping up and down on the stage. No, Tony, it's not true. Yeah? It reminds me of this. The Dean scream. The Dean scream.

Yeah, exactly the same. Newt Gingrich actually had a pretty good take on what's going on right now. And Fox News allowed him to say it. I think we are drifting towards the greatest constitutional crisis since the 1850s and the rise of secession and the Civil War. I don't mean that as hyperbole. If you read Andy McCarthy's remarkable book, Ball of Collusion, which came out in 2019, he makes very clear that it is Barack Obama who corrupts the Justice Department. It is Hillary Clinton who routinely breaks the law and gets away with it. And now we have Joe Biden who's learned.

He's learned from Obama that it doesn't matter what you do. If you're a liberal Democrat, you will not be prosecuted. He learned from Hillary that a person in high public office can get millions and millions of dollars. that a true outsider willing to take on the entire system could destroy their entire machine. So what you're seeing across the country is a desperate last-ditch effort by a corrupt machine to destroy their most dangerous opponent in a way which not only breaks the Constitution, in a way which not only breaks the Constitution, destroys the rule of law, and establishes a moment of bitterness which I think will last for a generation or more. I think this is going to be a horrendous period, and we just need to understand. The people who want to control America and dictate to the rest of us will break any law, lie about any topic, and manipulate the system any way they can.

And that includes a lot of the elite news media. Yeah, I think that's right. I'm no Newt Gingrich fan, but he nails it with short breath, by the way. What are they doing to the Newt? It's not doing too well. Adenoids, I have no idea. Yeah, he's right. I think that nails it. So meanwhile, while all of this is going on, they're sneaking in. They're sneaking in. We got to get everybody ready. We've got to have, I think we need mail-in ballots again. That would

be really good. So let's start sneaking it back in. Here we go. Here we go, CBS. The U.S. is seeing an increase in COVID cases. Nobody wants to hear that. Hospitalization rates, they are up more than 12% in the most recent weeks surveyed by the CDC. And in a sign of what could be ahead, COVID has been found in a rising number of wastewater samples. The virus is usually detected in wastewater up to a week before people start actually testing positive. CBS News medical contributor, that's Dr. Selene Gounder is with us. She's editor at large for public health at KFF. Good morning to you, Dr. Selene. Hello, Doc. You know, people are going, enough already. We are so ready to move on. It's been a long time

since I've even really even thought about COVID. But why are the cases going up and where? What do you mean? You heard you just three days ago talking about it, Gail. Well, it's a combination of people letting down their guard. I think a lot of people think, oh, we were in this bunker during the pandemic. It's going to go away when I come out. And unfortunately, it is still there. So just because you think you're done with COVID doesn't mean that virus is not still circulating. Letting our guard down how? Well, we're not masking as much, for example, in public transportation. So on the plane, on the subway. I'm not masking anymore. Should we? Well, if you're in a crowded indoor public space, you might want to in certain situations,

particularly as we go into the fall winter season. And where we're seeing it go up the most right now is in the Midwest. Oh, yes, of course. You know, the red states, you know, they're all going to die from COVID. John, do masks work against COVID? I forgot. I'm pretty sure we looked at this. No, no. What are you doing? Are you walking the dog? What do you do? Come back. Come back to the microphone. I've got more of Dr. Selene. Now, these hospitalizations are increasing. How severe are these cases? They are, on average, not more severe right now. If you look at sort of ICU admissions,

they're pretty stable. But where we have seen an increase in ICU hospitalizations, it's really in parts of the country where we have longstanding health disparities. The people who are ending up in the hospital or in the ER, there are two particular age groups. You have infants zero to one who we know are very under vaccinated. Less than five percent of those are back under vaccinated, vaccinated. Those are under vaccinated, vaccinated. And then people over 75, even if you have previously been vaccinated, that group really is at higher risk and needs to be boosted. All right. We need to boost boosting. All right. Let's talk about the booster.

Well, we got to talk about the come on, Gail. Give me the booster. There's also a new variant, Eris. What can you tell us about that? And then do we have a booster that we'll have to help protect us against it? So Ares is a new variant. I don't think anybody should be getting really too worried about Ares. And in general, just because you hear about a new variant doesn't mean this is something to panic about. OK, that's good to hear. Oh, John, we don't have to panic about it just because we have a name. And this is what viruses do. They mutateate you're going to have new variants emerge uh it is very closely related to xbb which is the variant the most recent variant the vaccines that are coming out this fall are fine-tuned for x john stop okay stop and you have to stop you're doing too many sound effects you're out of control bb

and we'll provide good protection against errors. And the vaccines and the boosters are still crucial and key, aren't they? Well, especially if you're in one of those high risk groups. So people over 75, especially, but the elderly in general, pregnant women, people who are, you know, compromised. People who live in nursing homes. What about the kids? A lot of kids haven't even gotten their first round of vaccination. Kids and infants really need to get their first round to protect them ahead of the fall.

And you've been saying that since the beginning. And that message has not changed. Thank you. Oh, yes. Thank you. Well, I wasn't really convinced by CBS. Yeah, I was like a CBS. OK, they've got I'm sure Pfizer is Pfizer is advertising.

So tell your kids you got to get a booster. You got to get this. If you're old, you kill the babies. But on CNBC, they're all back in again. Here's our boy, former FDA commissioner, now on the board of Pfizer and other fine bio companies, Dr. Scott Gottlieb. Hold on. Why do they keep putting this guy on because he is because they pay to have him put on oh okay never mind it's a new strain of covid making its way around the country and the world health organization has now called it a variant of interest meaning

they're monitoring it for mutations that could make it more severe join us right now cbc contributor former fda commissioner dr sc. Scott Gottlieb. He serves on the boards of Pfizer and Illumina. What's going on, doctor? I keep we keep hearing we actually have had a bunch of guests canceled recently because they got COVID. What's happening here? No bullshit. That was in the script.

You know, we've had some guests canceled because they got COVID. Come on. Look, there's definitely a summer wave happening right now. It's mostly this single variant, this Ares variant, EG5. It has a new mutation in it that gives us some immune escape over the prior Omicron variants. Other countries have experienced waves of infections with this same variant, and it hasn't caused increased hospitalizations or morbidity. I mean, we have seen an uptick in hospitalizations,

particularly among those 70 and over, those who are immunocompromised or older individuals, but nothing significant. And if you look at the overall hospitalization rate right now in the U.S., it's significantly below where it was last time, last year, when we had a significant Omicron surge late in the summer. So while this is concerning, seeing cases go up, there are certainly people who are vulnerable to this infection continue to be vulnerable. There's nothing to suggest that this particular strain that's circulating in the United States right now is more pathogenic than the prior variants. And so people who are vaccinated to prior variants who've had the infection before should have some residual immunity against this. The thing we're looking at right now is the wastewater data from a company called Biobot. So you can actually find it online because the hospitalization data isn't reliable.

Neither is the data on testing. It's not getting reported by a lot of states and most people who are testing are testing at home. So we're looking at the wastewater data and the parts of the country where the infections are going up the most right now are the Midwest and parts of the South. So that's where we're seeing the surges of infection. Dummies. Do you see the messaging? The messaging is, and exactly, exactly what we discussed in the past three years, wastewater, they're going to tell you where the dummies are, thank you, the idiots who aren't vaccinated or whatever, under vaccinated. It's all going to be red

states and it's all based on the wastewater. And he said, well, you can look it up. You can look it up on Biobot. You can look it up online. Well, guess what? We did. Hi, my name is Nusha Ghali and I'm the co-founder and president of Biobot Analytics. At Biobot, we're building a global human health database, the first of its kind, by analyzing sewage. That sounds great. This is based on a simple system called wastewater epidemiology. Everybody pees every day. And we know that urine contains a rich source of information on our health and well-being.

Our doctors look at it all the time. And every day we're flushing this data down the toilet where it's aggregating in public sewers. At Biobot, we're building technology to extract and analyze this information. And it's a much more elegant process than this. Our work is based on research that was developed here at MIT and led by my co-founder, Mariana Matus and I. And this is how it works. First of all, this sounds like an Elizabeth Holmes scam. And this is how it works. First of all, this sounds like an Elizabeth Holmes scam. She's got an Indian co-founder.

I'm here at MIT. Oh, yeah. And I think this should be illegal. She has no right to build a database off of everybody's pee, a global health database, which she's now going to use to geolocate. It'll be geolocating. It won't just be COVID. Who's using coke? Who's using weed?

What apartment building? Is there more weed? Who's using opioids? Let's find out how it works. We start by mapping the wastewater network in a city. This is Cambridge, Massachusetts. We layer land use data and census data over top of the network map in order to understand if we're collecting a sample from a given manhole, exactly what the upstream catchment is and what the demographics of that neighborhood are.

Don't be looking at my manhole. We then deploy our hardware units in these manholes where they hang just above water level, pumping sewage through a series of cartridges. The devices are then removed and the cartridges are shipped back to our labs, where we measure the concentration of viruses, bacteria, and small molecules that are all excreted in urine. Now, the applications are endless. We can begin to look at infectious disease outbreaks and monitor that all the way through to understanding the consumption of pharmaceutical products. So, in order to start, we had to pick a very specific and targeted application. And we decided to focus on the biggest public health emergency in the United States today, the opioid epidemic.

And there we go. Isn't that interesting? While this crisis continues, the best data that we have today is counting overdoses. While this crisis continues, the best data that we have today is counting overdoses. This data is extremely delayed, reactive, and it represents less than 1% of people who suffer from opioid use disorder. We provide cities with neighborhood level data. Hold on a second. I hadn't heard that before. Opioid overuse disorder. It's called addiction.

Hold on a second. Stop. It's called addiction. The state has extremely... Hold on a second, stop. We got to stop. So they're going to isolate... All you have to do is walk down the street. I know. You don't need to be in the manhole. You don't have to be in the manhole to tell, to see who's using. They're doing it out in the open. Yeah, but I think she's talking about people in buildings. And they're doing it in manholes, which means you can geolocate down to the building. And the next step is going to be in the building. And then it's going to be on each floor. This is a very dangerous development. Well, I'm going to stop with it.

If you're thinking, I'm actually going to back you off to your original point. This sounds a lot like an Elizabeth Holmes deal. There's something hinky about this. I'd like to talk to some people about how granular you can really get, because the amount of sample they're taking is, again,izabeth holmes seems a little low they drop a sample the thing a little package down a manhole up just above the sewage and they grab us a test tube full i mean i'm not i'm i'm very skeptical about this working i would be on equal footing with you on that the reason why it's interesting is that got leap is

all in on it god leap is a dangerous guy he's dangerous he should have been taken off the air years ago while this crisis continues the best data that we have today is counting overdoses this data is extremely delayed reactive and it represents less than 1% of people who suffer from opioid use disorder. Opioid use disorder. We provide cities with neighborhood-level data on drug use and treatment. That's updated every single month. What's the treatment, I wonder? What data do they deliver on treatment?

It's like, hey, send some crack pipes here. Hey, we need more syringes. It's like, hey, send some crack pipes here. Hey, we need more syringes. We measure about 30 different drugs that range from heroin, illicit opioids like heroin and fentanyl, to prescription opioids like codeine and tramadol, as well as substitution therapies like methadone and suboxone. This overall city view helps city officials understand where to deploy interventions. We can tell them what priority drugs are so that they know what types of interventions to deploy. And our trend data helps them evaluate whether those interventions are actually working.

This should not be legal. And where do you think they're starting this? What state would be a good one to start? Florida. No, that would be a good one to start? Florida. No, that would be really good. Our first customer in North Carolina was able to decrease overdoses by 40% by leveraging our data in only six months. How? Oh, we got some opioid use disorder people here.

We got data. Yeah, we got data. And they can... I don't see it. I don't either, but this is, this is, I, I'm convinced that your initial thoughts on this are, are there accurate ones? This is bull crap. How?

You can, if you, if you dump a, like a, like a cup of bleach in your toilet, cause you're, oh, let's say you're cleaning your toilet and you're, or you're using a liquid plumber, which is introducing a bunch of sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide into the system or chlorine can be dumped in with some some some bleach this is this contaminates this reacts with anything that they're trying to do especially they're only taking these little samples this is this is not this is bull it may be but they're going to be using it so yes i'm with you on that but if she's got got leap in on this that's a problem let me finish this godly maybe just naively thinking that they got something because i don't know that he's ready on any of this he's anything but naive we told them that prescription opioids were what

was most commonly used, and therefore they focused all their resources and interventions on that. In just a little over a year, we have grown from being deployed in that one city to now being launched across eight with 100% retention. And with that, we're one step closer to achieving our mission, which is to transform wastewater infrastructure around the world into a public health observatory. This sounds creepy. Let's go back to Gottlieb. Scott, we don't have free testing anymore. We don't have those free test kits that you get in the mail. And so I'm wondering if you think that, you know, is the surge much greater than we know? And how do you think this plays into, you know, when we go into the colder months and COVID might become more rampant?

If we don't have those free tests, are we more apt to spread this? More free tests. No, no tests. Nuh-uh. Nuh-uh. We're just going to do wastewater testing. Bill, this is, if you look at the wastewater data, this infection right now, this new variant, is very prevalent. Last week was about 20% of all infections in the

U.S. rising rapidly. I would suspect that when we see the data out of CDC this Friday, it's going to be about 50% of all infections that are happening in the country. And that's always backward looking. So it's probably more than that. So this is quite prevalent right now around the country, particularly in the Midwest, parts of the Midwest right now. In terms of the testing, it's going to be more different. Contradiction there. Okay. right now in terms of the testing it's going to be more different contradiction there okay he said that the wastewater testing was forward looking because the wastewater these things will show up before people even have symptoms

but now he's saying it's backward looking can he make up his mind let's listen again no this is remember him saying it was forward looking he says the wastewater will show this these spikes and before people even know they got the disease did you say that now he's saying the opposite you say that in the first clip yeah well let's go back and listen for a second it's a new strain of covid making its way around the country's cancel recently because they got covid the same variant and it hasn't caused increased hospitalizations or morbidity i I mean, we have seen it up versus those who are immunocompromised or older individuals this year when we had a

significant Omicron surge late in the summer. There's nothing to suggest that this particular strain that's circulating in the United States right now is more pathogenic than the prior variants. And so people who are vaccinated to prior variants who've had the infection before should have some residual immunity against this. The thing we're looking at right now is the wastewater data from a company called Biobot. So you can actually find it online because the hospitalization data isn't reliable. Neither is the data on testing. It's not getting reported by a lot of states and most people who are testing and testing at home. So we're looking at the wastewater data and the parts of the country where the infections are going up the most right now are the Midwest and parts of the South.

So that's where we're seeing the surges of infection. He didn't say anything about forward looking there. I'm not sure. He's playing. That was the end of the first clip. I'm going now to the second clip. I'm going back. Maybe he says it here.

Scott, we don't have free testing anymore. We don't have those free test kits that you get in the mail. So I'm wondering if you think that, you know, is the surge much greater than than we know? And how do you think this plays into, you know, when we go into the colder months and COVID might become more more rampant if we don't have those free tests? Are we more apt to sort of to spread this? Listen to her leading the witness. This is so obvious what's going on here. This is if you look at the wastewater data, this infection right now, this new variant is very prevalent. Last week was about 20 percent of all infections in the U.S. rising rapidly. I would suspect that when we see the data out

of CDC this Friday, it's going to be about 50 percent of all infections that are happening in the country. And that's always backward looking. So it's probably more than that. So this is quite prevalent right now around the country, particularly in the Midwest, parts of the Midwest right now. In terms of the testing, yeah, it's going to be more difficult to get access to the testing this winter. There's no question about that. This variant is probably going to come and go this fall. We're probably going to see a new variant emerge by the time we get into the late fall and the winter.

So this particular strain isn't that worrisome in terms of its pathogenicity relative to what we've seen before. We don't know what's going to come next, but this is going to run its course probably by the end of September into October. This particular variant I think will have moved around the country. So this is, the way I see it, the plan is wastewater testing, and man

we saw this coming, John, we were laughing about it, but we saw it coming. Wastewater testing. They started with the polio. Yes, and now they're doing it with drugs, and they coming. Wastewater testing. They started with the polio. Yes. And now they're doing it with drugs, and they didn't mention anything about their COVID. And, you know, remember how great these COVID tests were. We're not going to give away these free

tests because they work so well. Anyway, we're not going to do that. I've got a dozen of them. You don't need any of those free tests. We're just going to spend all the money on this Elizabeth Holmes character, and we're going to lock down portions of cities because you have high COVID levels in your pee. I'm telling you, this is the way they're going. And Gottlieb is all in on it.

Yeah, well, I think you're also dropping the ball on another one of your early assertions, which is this will lead, they do this at the last minute, this will lead to mail-in ballots. Yes, of course. Because the wastewater shows that everyone's sick. Yeah, you can't, oh, hey, are you from this quadrant? Whoop, whoop, whoop. And it's all in red states. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, of course.

Yeah, yeah, makes sense. You are in quadrant five. You may not go to vote. You will have your mail-in ballots dropped off in front of your building. That's what's going to happen. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. What is that new device?

What is this you're using? I don't know. It's just something. Don't have my megaphone with me. This is better than the megaphone. Really? You like this one? Okay.

The drone will be dropping off your mail-in ballots in front of your quadrant building. Do not worry. Do not be alarmed. Stay indoors. Stay indoors. The megaphone has its place. Yeah. But this is different.

This is creepier. By the way, let's just see. You know, besides, I mean, the vaccine. No, no, no, what really worked? Ivermectin worked for people. Hydroxychloroquine, although I never tried that, that seemed to work for people. And monoclonal antibodies, that is what I think Joe Rogan would say was really what got him over his COVID in just a couple of days. got him over his COVID in just a couple of days.

And is Paxlovid, which is really the only, I mean, people are not using any of the other types of... Oh, listen, CNBC. People are really only using Paxlovid. I mean, Paxlovid is the only way to go, right, Scott? And is Paxlovid, which is really the only, I mean, people are not... I mean, let me read my script. Paxlovid, I mean, there's nothing else, right? I'm not using any of the other types of medications anymore.

This is that nerd from the New York Times. Isn't that this guy? Sanger? No, no, no, no, no. The one who wrote the... Oh, the guy who got kicked off the... Yeah, he got kicked out because he had so many conflicts of interest. No.

No. Yeah. No. Yeah. No, this is the Wunderkind. What's his name? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. He didn't get kicked off anything. They love him.

I think, no, I don't think he works at the Times anymore. Oh, that's possible. That's possible. Is that the only real sort of firewall, especially for older people? Firewall? Oh, it's a firewall. It's the only drug that's widely available right now. Merck has a drug as well that's on the market.

It's used a little less by physicians. I'm on the board of Pfizer, as you know, which markets Paxilavid. The monoclonal antibodies aren't available anymore. The companies haven't continued to make new versions of those monoclonal antibodies to target the existing variants. Pfizer, as well as other companies, have second-generation antivirals in development. So I think we'll see continued innovation in this space. But right now, Paxlovid is a highly effective drug, properly used for patients who are properly indicated for it.

It doesn't really make people sick. A fine Pfizer product. Yeah, it'd kill people. Sorkin. That's his name. Sorkin. Andrew Ross Sorkin. Sorkin.

Right. The Wunderkind Sorkin that's his name sorkin andrew ross sorkin sorkin right the wunderkind sorkin reading the script anyway nbc didn't really get the they didn't get any money nbc didn't get any money cbs got the money cnbc got the money but nbc today show them no money do you think we'll soon be at a point where the medical community decides okay we're going to stop calling this a booster we're going to say this is a covid shot like the flu shot and it will maybe be a seasonal thing. Is there any indication of covid being seasonal? I mean, why haven't we transitioned from booster, which seems to imply one uptick and you're done? Why haven't we transitioned from that language to

more of like flu shot type language? You know, Alison, I think the short answer is this virus continues to humble those who try to make predictions. You know, we all want this to be a seasonal thing, just like the flu. Go away in the summer, come back in the winter, you get your shot, you're good to go. But as we've seen with this uptake and we've seen in the previous summers, this virus really, it just humbles those who try to play a crystal ball and predict things. So really, I do think we're going to get to that point. I don't think we're there yet. Especially if you are high risk, we are recommending more frequent vaccines. I think a lot of people are wondering, do I need to bring the mask back?

And I think the question to ask yourself is, if you're high risk, look at just like you do the weather. If it's raining, you grab an umbrella. Look at the COVID cases. Think of it like an umbrella. Think of a mask like an umbrella. If there are a lot of cases out there, grab an N95, a KN95. You know, they still work. Yeah, that way you can identify your fellow Democrats during the mail-in ballot period.

This is, it's so obvious to me. It's like they're setting everything up. We have drones flying around, dropping off N and K95s. But, you know, you can't no no no no no no you can't go out stay in there this building is no good in this city in these red states you know what everyone will fall for it you will go right down that same path it'll be exactly we'll have We'll have Joe Biden in as president again. They have a term for it here.

I was talking to a couple of people. They were not really big on a lot of, just like Texas here, as I said. And the term they have is balconazis. Balconazis. It was people who would, if you were walking on the street, they'd be on their balcony yelling at you to get off the street. Balconazis. It was people who, if you were walking on the street, they'd be on their balcony yelling at you to get off the street. Balkanazis. Which I think is kind of a good term.

Balkanazis. It's like a Balkan. Balkany. Nazis. A Balkany Nazi. Yeah. Yeah. Balkany.

Balkanazis. Yeah. Get off the street. Get off the street, yo. Yeah, I can see it. But maybe there's a solution when all the residents, when the

legal residents are locked in their homes because, you know, of the pee water, the wastewater shows that you're all infected. You're all seething with infection. You can't come out. And we can keep everything working.

They've already figured that out, too. And I mean, I know it's a grand conspiracy theory, but I think they've got it set, especially in New York. Tonight, a new battle is brewing over how New York City is handling the record-breaking influx of migrants. Mayor Eric Adams pushing back after the state's governor, Kathy Hochul, a fellow Democrat, accused him of not doing enough. If her observation is that here's some things that you can do differently, we're all in. One thing no one is stating that we didn't do, we've housed 100,000 people, unlike any other city. It comes after a lawyer for the governor today sent a scathing letter saying the city faces a serious crisis and has failed to accept the state's offer

of assistance and should do more to act in a proactive manner. The mayor opening two new shelters and he's repeatedly slammed the federal government for not doing enough to help the city. Today, we spoke with Carla from Ecuador with her four-year-old daughter outside the iconic Roosevelt Hotel in Manhattan, which has been turned into a migrant housing facility. Give us an opportunity, she says. Many of us just want to work. Across the country, other major cities are also struggling with the influx, and Massachusetts governor just declared a state of emergency. It's unsustainable.

In New York, since last year, more than 100,000 asylum seekers have arrived. More than 58,000 are now in shelters, and officials estimate housing and caring for migrants will cost city taxpayers $12 billion by 2025. However, Mayor Adams argues a major step to solve this crisis would be allowing migrants to get work permits. There you go. There you go. That's interesting that I have a very similar report, but I don't think it's from the same source. I think this may be NDD. This is New York State versus New York City one. New York Governor Kathy Hochul says the illegal immigrant crisis in Manhattan is the city's own fault. In response to Mayor Adams' request for recent request for more help, NTD's Arlene Richards reports. In a 12-page letter Tuesday,

New York Governor Kathy Hochul blamed Mayor Eric Adams' lack of coordination for New York City's illegal immigrant crisis. The letter responds to the city's request last week for help in managing the crisis. The state can support us by taking reasonable actions to ease the burden of our city. We need a statewide decompression strategy to help free up space in our shelter system and reduce the pressure on our city's resources. The state recently announced humanitarian relief centers that they will reimburse us for, but we need more. Decompression strategy. That's interesting. Yeah. Crazy. Hmm. There's part two. The New York Times reports that Adams had written a letter to the state in response to a Manhattan Supreme Court order.

The court's order comes in response to a claim filed by the Legal Aid Society asking the court to enforce a years-old decree. The decree requires the city to provide a bed to anyone who asks for it. Adams' letter laid out numerous requests, including asking the state to cover two-thirds of the cost of shelter in the absence of meaningful federal funding, and asking for a statewide relocation program to resettle groups of new arrivals throughout the state's counties. The governor's reply criticizes the city for failing to accept numerous state offers of assistance over the last year. For example, she says the state offered more than a dozen state-owned sites that could provide temporary shelter to more than 3,000 migrants. But the city did not accept the offer, the letter states. Mayor Adams' office had no immediate

comment on the state's letter, but Hochul herself has been criticized by the mayor and community organizations for not taking a more proactive approach to ease the city's burdens. Without help from the state and federal governments, Adams fears the worst. If we don't get the support we need, New Yorkers could be left with a $12 billion bill. Arlene Richards, NTD News. Now, did you hear that in there that there's a state law that says if you go to New York and you demand a bed, they have to give you one? I didn't know that. Well, that's the tourists should take advantage of this.

Yeah. And you get to stay in the Roosevelt Hotel where tourists used to stay, which is a real, real crap hole. The Roosevelt Hotel. Oh, man, that is the worst. And can you imagine that filled with families who are just in distress? I'm telling you, it is such a perfect setup because, you know, I'm telling you, it is such a perfect setup because, you know, when not only while most New Yorkers are at home because the wastewater says so. Awaiting their N95 masks to wear while screaming out over, they'll be Balkan Nazis.

Then the illegal immigrants, asylum seekers, they will be working to keep the city going. And when you work, you know, I mean, come on, it's only fair they get to vote. This is so obvious. Well, you know what's coming after that? Especially on the spur of the moment, Internet voting. Yeah, well, you've been talking about that forever. Internet voting. Yeah.

How is San Francisco doing? Have you been into the city recently? Well, let's play a couple of clips. Can I start you off with something from the BBC, just to make sure that we're on the up and up here? Sure. San Francisco, that liberal enterprising city in the union's wealthiest state, is struggling more than most, despite numerous attempts to crack down on drugs. The city is already on course this year to beat its drug deaths record from 2020, when 712 people died.

The violence, crime and homelessness that comes with the problem has made parts of downtown San Francisco so treacherous that now hundreds of federal workers at the Department for Health and Human Services have been advised by their bosses to work from home rather than risk the commute at the building. A memo said, quote, in light of the conditions at the federal building, we recommend employees maximize the use of telework for the foreseeable future. Does that line up with what you're seeing? It's so dangerous. That building, by the way, which is called the Nancy Pelosi building.

Oh. Nancy Pelosi Federal Building. Is that the official one? I know where that building is. It's not in the worst part of town, that's for sure, but there's still a lot of homeless around there, and there's still a bunch of encampments. And if you have to go there, and I haven't been there for a while,

but I went a few years ago uh i would always take a bring an extra couple of dollars and find some guy and tell him to guard my car oh yeah that makes sense yeah and they do it yeah really you can trust them well i don't know if you can trust all of them but the ones i've run into you can okay well you have you have a sense it's not like i all of them but the ones i've run into you can okay well you have you have a slightly sense it's not like i'm going there all the time i'm sure some guys i mean i think the way you could deal with it say here's here here's a couple of dollars and here's four quarters put them in the meter if the meter starts running out may i may i play may i play a description from this bbc reporter about the area since you've now eloquently told us it's not even the worst?

It's not the worst. Tabakinder, who is West Coast financial editor for the Financial Times. You know this area of downtown quite well. What's it like? Describe it for us. I actually walked through the area you're talking about this morning. this morning that it's a block on 7th and Mission downtown in the Soma district where this federal building is where they've asked people not to come to the office and it's bad I mean a lot of the downtown area particularly this block and other areas like the Tenderloin it's just completely unremarkable now to see people crowds of people kind of using drugs very openly or unconscious from the effects

of drugs on the pavements. And it's just quite unpleasant. And it's really just very, very visible. And Tabby, when you walk down that part of town, what are you looking at? Are you looking at drug deals happening? Are there people on the floor? I mean, what can you actually see? Are you looking at drug deals happening? Are there people on the floor? I mean, what can you actually see? Don't look at anything. Her name is precious, too.

Tabby. Hey, Tabby, what did you see? Did you see people on the floor? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, this morning there were rows of tents, which actually is quite unusual for San Francisco, because recently the government... No, it's not. Did she say unusual?

Yeah. Unusual. Tabby, Tabby. There's rows of tents everywhere. This doesn't make sense, Tabby. Yeah, I mean, this morning there were rows of tents, which actually is quite unusual for San Francisco, because recently the government, the local government has been very good at clearing out tent encampments kind of as quickly as possible. No. Tabby clearly walking a different part of town. clearing out tent encampments kind of as quickly as possible. Tabby clearly walking a different part of town. Rows of tents, groups of people kind of clustered on the floor in various states of consciousness.

No, hold on, stop. So what happened was she saw the rows of tents because they're everywhere, but she was under the impression. That's right. Because of the news reports news they cleared all these out and so she so she she took it at base value to to make the commentary that well this is unusual when it's not unusual she did a shit job of reporting is what we're dealing with here hey

it's the bbc who do you think you're talking about here i have a feeling that tabby you're right tabby probably hasn't been on foot through this area. And quite honestly, I'm not so sure she was on foot when she did this. I'm sure she was in an Uber. Drive-by. A drive-by. It's quite unusual for San Francisco because recently the government, the local government, has been very good at clearing out encampments. No, they haven't. clearing out tents and cabins kind of as quickly as possible. But rows of tents,

groups of people kind of clustered on the floor in various states of consciousness, drug paraphernalia, foil pipes, kind of just very visible everywhere. And, you know, there's rubbish everywhere, human excrement. The place doesn't smell very nice. But I mean, it's almost ironic that this federal building has asked some staff not to come to work because part of the reason the homelessness and the drug use is so bad in that part of town is because there has been a big emptying out of workers since the pandemic. Lots of tech workers haven't come back. Companies have really embraced remote working. So you have this kind of ironic, like self-fulfilling prophecy

where the area is quiet. It becomes more overrun with drug users. People don't want to go to it. And it just kind of, the cycle repeats itself. Well, they should do that. Okay, hold on a second. They should do that wastewater testing because that they solved 40

of the problem so you know let's get a couple things straight the tech workers aren't in this part of town no no only twitter where the san francisco chronicle is this is where uh you know there's a couple of malls there and some stores that are leaving, Nordstrom's. So this is poorly done, to say the least. But let's play my San Francisco clips. I'm going to have three of them, including one about the driverless car fiasco that we've been talking about. Okay, so we start with this. And these are NorCal SF, this kind of misspelled the word crime one work from home notice for federal employees in San Francisco.

They were told to work remotely for the foreseeable future due to drug use and rising crime. By the way, this is not coordinated. I think this is I love this. We both have clips about this this work from home order. And I'm all the way in Europe. Yeah, it's insane. It's great. Found their office building. Congressman Kevin Kiley of California had this to say.

Nowadays, when you think about the city, you're less likely to think about the Golden Gate Bridge and the trolley cars and the wharf than you are to think about bashed-in windshields and open-air drug markets and waste-slittered streets. The issue was first reported by the San Francisco Chronicle. It involves an 18-story building that houses various federal agencies. A video posted on social media platform X shows dozens of individuals

simultaneously using fentanyl steps from the federal workplace. The video was posted by a longtime San Francisco resident, Darren Stalkop. He says he's seen San Francisco go from being the cultural capital of the world to the technological capital of the world to now the fentanyl capital of the world. The guidance for federal employees to teleconference adds to the growing office space vacancy in the city. Congressman Kiley also wrote on X, In recent months, San Francisco's decline has reached a point of total collapse. The state announced the deployment of the National Guard to the area.

The number of police officers doubled in June. Hey, congratulations. Foam finger number one. There's no doubling of anything. You can't find a cop anywhere around there. It's the opioid capital of the world. Don't forget. Fentanyl number one.

Mayor Breed, instead of taking care of this, Mayor Breed, our Democrat mayor, she's in Hawaii. Oh, is she vacationing? She was in Maui during the fires. I talked about that. That's right. That's right. So let's go to clip two of San Francisco. Personally, I was born and raised in the San Francisco Bay Area.

I've seen firsthand pounds of fentanyl. I'm sorry, I'm having the troll room tell me that she said something funny at the end. She said colap instead of collapse. Or was that a weird edit? Congressman Kiley also wrote on X. In recent months, San Francisco's decline has reached a point of total colap. The state announced she said colap. She did. Good catch, Troll Room. Collap. Personally, I was born and raised in the San Francisco Bay Area. I've seen firsthand pounds of fentanyl are distributed and used right there on the corner of 7th and Mission. And, you know, I've personally seen countless people overdose. And it's a very pressing issue in San Francisco right now.

When did you see a noticeable decline? This happened over a period of 10 to 20 years. You know, 2015, there was so much hope and aspirations for San Francisco. The South of Market area was transforming uh faster than ever before somewhere between all this advancement in technology there was a decline in humanity and for many years the community has been voting progressively for liberal ideas and personally i believe that uh you know what's happening in our community is a direct result of electing corrupt Democrats who have placed profits above the families of our community. And progressive policy is making everything progressively worse.

Harm reduction is causing more harm. No, this is this is encouraging. The residents are saying, hey, it's our politicians. They're finally waking up to this yeah good luck as i've said these elections are rigged you know you're gonna be that last guy with this one house it's fine over here on this side of the bay yeah yeah it's all chinese it's all chinese from china much better uh so yeah, because everything's best price. Yes. So,

but let's ignore this and go to Southern California. Oh, Los Angeles. Yes, yes, yes. SoCal. Two clips. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Costino asked me this. He said, when Ronald Reagan

was president, even when he was governor, was California really Republican? Was it a red state at the time? Or was it kind of mixed? It was a mixed state and Republicans easily got in. We had two or three Republican governors and then out of the blue the place became almost completely Democrat now do you can you point to what that what that how that change happened or what that was was everyone just fed up with things being great no I think it had yes I think it had to do with the Republican Party uh becoming highly religious and turning off the electorate. Ah, okay. And so, oh, that makes sense.

The California Republican Party is about as useless as any party mechanism in all the states. Okay. So then it... If you go to a meeting somewhere, the independents or Democrats, boy, they just complain about these guys like there's nothing. They won't give anyone money. There just is a bunch of dipshits. What's going on in the background there?

Is there like some... I have no idea. It's so loud. It's a lot of noise. It's some crazy noise. Okay. All right. I have no idea what it is.

Well, let's play SoCal 1. Smash and grab robberies have hit Southern California once again. The facts are happening more frequently in Los Angeles County. NTD's Christina Corona has more from the two latest stores that were hit. On Sunday, a shopper recorded two suspects stealing from a Nike store in East L.A. on Whittier Boulevard. The video posted on the Citizen app shows the suspects running in with trash bags and taking off with about $1,000 worth of shoes and other items. No injuries were reported. We asked local residents if this makes them afraid to shop and what to be aware of.

In a way it does, you know, because I have a kid, so I'm always looking out for his safety. So, yeah, it's just that they're going into our community in that way, being that it is a low-income community, and we're lucky to have a Nike store here. You never know what the person's going to have. A knife, a gun, they're not thinking straight. It doesn't matter. Just be careful. But people are going to come in and try to find easy places like this now there's a lot of the requirements for companies they tell you don't don't follow them

don't talk to them don't say anything just leave them alone it's not worth it because the thing is that loss will be written off it'll be a write-off for taxes it'll be our for insurance whatever it is they don't nobody loses yes yes everybody loses in the end, my friend. I'm glad you caught that because that was the reason I stopped that clip there. It's a horrible thing to say. It's horrible because everybody loses. You have to pay more in insurance. The taxes go up for everybody else.

This is bull crap. Where do you get that idea? That idea is pushed by the education system, by the Democrats. And once we got that law, which is up to $900, you know, you can go scot-free. That really solidified it.

These smashing grabs are crazy. We reached out to the Nike store. You know, has Mimi's head fallen down onto the desk yet? Is she listening to this show? She's sleeping as we speak. We reached out to the Nike store, but they declined to comment.

The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department said this particular store is targeted weekly. And on Saturday, video posted on the Citizen app captured 20 to 50 thieves swarming a Nordstrom at the Westfield Topanga Shopping Center in Canoga Park as they cleared out the store during a destructive robbery. The video shows thieves wearing all black violently grabbing whatever merchandise they can carry, with many thieves seen ripping off the security devices attached to designer purses and luggage items. Officials say $60,000 to $100,000 worth of merchandise was stolen. Police are still searching for the suspects involved. Following the viral video, rapper 50 Cent wrote on Instagram, I told you LA was finished. They are going to have to

lock the doors. Appointment only. SMH. This comes just weeks after he commented about the reinstatement of the zero bail policy in Los Angeles County, saying LA is finished. Yeah, the zero bail policy. Oh, goodness. Zero bail policy. And then they wonder why this is going on.

I figured out what that sound is behind you. What is it? Well, a dangerous alien hornet has invaded the U.S. for the first time ever. The yellow-legged hornet you see there is a relative of what we know as the murder hornet. An alert beekeeper spotted one on his property near Savannah, Georgia, and contacted agriculture officials. Now, the pest preys on honeybees and poses an extreme risk to the honey industry unless it's taken out pretty quickly. Murder hornet.

Boy, is this different than the murder hornet? I don't know. I think it's the same one. They eat honeybees too. That's a big ugly thing. I think that she's just mispronounced murder. Oh, that's possible. The script was smudged.

I think what they should have said is this is climate change. That would have made more sense. Climate change. Climate change. Talking about climate change, they do have a couple clips. Now this is a clip, it's a great clip.

The problem is, and it was sent to me, and we can't find a source of it, but it's obviously some TV interview show in Australia. And people listening to this, I would like to get the source. I'd like to know who the interviewer is and who the woman is. Okay. And she's a woman that worked in government, and she was in environmental, and it wasn't the EPA, but she worked for one of the uh british or i'm sorry australian uh legislators and she's kind of an expert and this information i was starting to think about what she has to say here and i have to say oh you know what she say has to be true

and here here we go and effect oops sorry he used to work for the federal government. I did, yeah, for seven years. Doing what? I was policy advisor for a Liberal Party senator. The area that I was working in was renewable energy and basically it was my job to uncover a lot of the stuff that was going on with the Renewable Energy Act which was put in in 2002 under the Howard government. So that was the Liberal Party put the act in place, and I was looking at the mess that it had created. And what a lot of people don't understand is that the Renewable Energy Act creates a subsidy

environment where if you build wind turbines, you're paid between $600,000 and $900,000 per turbine per year. I heard this too. As a subsidy alone. Well, if it's on your property. No. So what happens is the wind company comes in and they pay a lease to the farmer to build the wind turbines

and that, in effect, makes sure that the farmer is still liable for the turbine. Okay. And they pay a lease of $12,000 a year usually and the company gets paid between $600,000 and $900,000 per turbine per year. So they pay $12,000 to the farmer but they get $600,000? Exactly. Per turbine? Yeah.

Which is a big incentive to put in turbines. Yeah, and the landowner takes the liability for the turbine. So he gets $12,000 a year, but if anything happens to it, he's got to fix it. Or she's got to fix it. Yeah, when they catch on fire, they're responsible for their neighbor's properties going up in smoke. Yeah, I saw, was I sent this clip as well? I remember this. And for some reason, think you guys floating around you also got it sent no it got sent to you and me

so let's go to part two now part two is actually i think it's even more interesting because it brings to mind that's just the consideration of the laws of physics. And effectively that money, the subsidy that's getting paid to the wind farms, is reaming $40 billion a year out of the Australian economy. Oh, yeah. And it's paid by everyone, every pensioner, householder, schools, hospitals, everyone. It's not just out of your tax. It comes out of your power bill

is this why power bills are going up yeah that's why power bills are going up to pay for wind turbines that don't work exactly and why don't they work so they don't work because um for a start they draw power off the grid so they have to have coal-fired power in order to turn they're not windmills they're turbines and essentially what do you mean the the power to turn. They're not windmills, they're turbines. And essentially... Sorry, what do you mean? The power to turn. So when we see them turning, that's not the wind, that's the power generator turning. Essentially. They have to draw power off the grid. So they have to draw coal-fired power off the grid in order to turn. And what happens when the wind picks up, they do actually start

to create electricity of their own but that electricity is so intermittent and unreliable when it gets back to the grid it has to be balanced on the grid which you can't do and let like with your coal-fired power station you can't ramp your coal-fired power stations up and down so the coal-fired power station stays at the same level because it takes 24 to 48 hours for them to get up to heat anyway. And they just let off steam as the wind comes onto the grid. So there's absolutely nothing about them that works apart from reaming that amount of money out of the Australian economy and it's going offshore. I think this lady is dead.

and it's going offshore. I think this lady is dead. They killed her. So I was thinking about it because those big giant turbines that you'll see nowadays, they're huge. The wind can't get those things going. There's no way physically possible. I didn't realize. They have to be turned on.

They've got to be kick-started. They need a little booster. They've they got to be kick-started they need a little booster they got to be beyond kick-start they have to be spinning to a point where the wind can actually contribute to the to the force that's used to make them to spin around just the laws of physics can tell you that if those things are just staying if they're just standing there with those big blades, you can't get those blades to move with just a 30 mile an hour breeze or 40 even. You have to start them yourself.

I wish more people understood what's going on. I mean, I have bumped into so many people in Holland who are all in on this. No, no, wind is good. You know, it's good. It really makes sense. You know, we've been using windmills since the 1400s. Yeah, but it's just kind of a windmill. On a radio show I did real computing years ago,

I had the father, that was an interview show, I had the father of modern wind power who did all those blades that you see in the Altamont Pass and in Palm Springs, you know, the small ones. Yeah, yeah. And I had a lot of very interesting chat with him. And I would like to, I got to find, do some research and find out who that guy is again,

because I have to ask him about these big blades. Don't worry, he's dead. He's dead. He's not going to be, they've killed them all. I mean, it's just like right now, these fires, and there's a lot of talk about the fires all over Europe. This is State of Fear by Michael Crichton. This is exactly what this is.

We'll get to Maui in a minute. I mean, we'll get to Maui probably after the break. But all of this is all climate change related. They are pushing it. They are ramming it down our throats. Did you hear about this landmark case in Montana? No. Down to a landmark climate change lawsuit. A group of young people successfully sued the government in Montana for failing to protect them from climate change.

Devin Dwyer is in Washington with those details for us. Good morning, Devin. Hey, good morning, Robin. This is the first time a U.S. court has ruled that the government violated the rights of children by failing to protect them from climate change. This was a case brought by kids ages 5 to 22. They testified in court about the impacts of wildfires, drought, and floods near their homes.

The judge in the case said scientific evidence clearly links those events to fossil fuels being promoted by the state. And she declared that the state's constitution guarantees a right to a clean and healthful environment, which includes the climate. The decision now means that officials will be required to consider greenhouse gas emissions when they consider new oil and gas projects in the state of Montana. The state says it will appeal this decision, but it is inspiring this morning groups of young people in a number of other states to sue their governments to do more about climate change. It's inspiring to sue the state. Now, what's interesting is a clip custodian

got two clips for me, one from ABC about this story one from nbc both exactly the same length let's see if the content is the same and in montana today a landmark court decision a judge siding with a group of young people who accused the state of violating their rights by supporting fossil fuels and thompson joins us now and this could be a game changer it could lesser and it's a sweeping victory for the 16 young people who brought the case, the first of its kind to go to trial. A district judge ruled that their right to a clean and healthful environment, as guaranteed by Montana's constitution, was violated because the state prohibited agencies

from taking climate change impacts into consideration when evaluating fossil fuel projects. The judge also ruled that the ban was unconstitutional. The judge found the state knew about the dangers of greenhouse gases from fossil fuels for at least 30 years and that until the concentrations are reduced, she says young people will be unable to lead clean and healthy lives in Montana. The state says it will appeal a spokesperson called the trial absurd and a publicity stunt. Ah, publicity stunt. What's really bad about this is that this took place in Montana. Yes.

Where you'd think. They'd know better. They'd know better. They'd know better. And Montana's got wide open skies as clean as a whistle up there. There's no dirty air. It's beautiful. I mean, I guess if you're downwind of a copper mine...

We were talking about... I thought you had two of these clips. You're going to do them back to back. I just played them. You heard two of them back to back. Oh, I thought you had another one. No. Robisco.

Remember Robisco? We talked about it on the last show. This protein stuff made from alfalfa. Robisco, which is supposed to give you all the protein you need. So now a Saudi company is in Arizona, and they have been given unlimited water rights to grow alfalfa in Arizona, which is not really good right now. And this will be turned into Rubisco. And in that same Rubisco report, we had, we heard that one ounce of broccoli is the same

protein as one ounce of steak. That was Dr. Selesh Rao from the Climate Healers. Yeah, and then we debunked it on the spot. Right. Well, we got Ash in Texas, and she actually has a child who can't have beef for a whole bunch of reasons. Metabolic disorder, PKU, doesn't sound good. And she says, look, I've been on this journey for 17 years. You can imagine my reaction

to hearing this doctor's statement. So she says, one ounce of steak, depending on the cut or fat level, on average, 8.7 grams of protein, 43 calories, 315 milligrams of phe.

What is phe? P-H-E. Phe. What's P-H-E. Pfe. What's P-H-E? I have no, P-H-E? Yeah, P-H-E. We should know this. I have no idea.

One ounce of broccoli, 0.6 grams of protein, 10 calories. So this is bull. Everyone's lying. It's so crazy. I know. so this is bull everyone's lying it's so crazy i know they lie and they lie on the air and then they are great journalists of this country go okay sounds good and then we talked to the guy said unless you're unless you're eating rocks and then people did say that people sent me to see the sea actually we should probably play that clip Hold on, just to make sure we have that. What was that?

Rox. What was this guy? It was... Rubisco. Rubisco. Was it this? Scientists describe Rubisco as nature's most dominant carbon dioxide fixing enzyme and are very interested in its role in the global carbon cycle.

We've got Silas Rao on the show to make this simple enough for us to understand, hopefully. He's founder and executive director of Climate Healers, a company that, among many things, tries to help people understand that we all have the resources we need to solve each of our global problems. So it's a pleasure. Thank you for your time. Thank you for having me. to help people understand that we all have the resources we need to solve each of our global problems. Sue, it's a pleasure. Thank you for your time. Thank you for having me. Before we start, I just have to say, your website, climatehealers.org,

describes in fascinating detail how you got involved in environmentalism, starting with seeing a documentary by Al Gore. Just tell us a bit about Rubisco, how beneficial it is and can be. It is a plant protein and it is ubiquitous in the world. And to me, it is a signal from nature saying protein is everywhere. So you eat plants, you're going to get your protein because protein is a building block of life. Unless we're eating rocks, we are going to get enough protein in our diet. OK, so he said, unless you're eating rocks. And it turns out the Chinese are eating rocks.

This Chinese stir fry features rocks as the main ingredient. And social media calls it, quote, the world's hardest dish. People are supposed to suck off the flavors, then spit out the rocks. Hence the dish's name, so-di-o, meaning suck and dispose. The dish originated in Hubei province and is said to date back hundreds of years. It was reportedly passed down for generations by boatmen through their oral history. for generations by boatmen through their oral history. Street vendors cook the pebbles with spices, chili oil, and garlic on a sizzling grill.

Each portion costs about 16 huang, which is around $2.30. You've been around? Have you ever seen this rock dish? No. This must be some kind of programming. They must be just programming our brains, getting us ready. This is something phony, yeah. Getting us ready to eat rocks and Rubisco. Rocks and Rubisco.

Of my Rubisco on the rocks, please. Mmm, yummy. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. All right, well, let's see what else we get on our list. I'll tell you what. Why don't I thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the colap.

Ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeMora. Well, in the morning, Mr. Adam McCurry, in the morning, all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.

And a big hearty in the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Well, hold on a second. Let me make sure we count them properly. Choke out.

There we go. There are the trolls. 1oke out. There we go. There are the trolls. 1,890. That sounds right. That sounds about right. You know, I figured out what happened on Sunday's show. It was my mistake. I had not sent out the bat signal to Podverse, which you give me crap for that i keep saying podverse because

there must be a couple hundred people who really rely on that bat signal and that's why that's why it was low we were down by a couple hundred so that's what happened yeah yeah more than yeah 300 at least something like that so i apologize i apologize yeah i apologize people like yeah i didn't get a bad signal. And this is why we have a newsletter. This is why we remind people that there's a show coming up tomorrow. Cause people have busy lives. They got lots of podcasts to listen to now,

except I guess not that Glenn Beck podcast. Did you hear what happened there? Yeah. And they still can't get to the bottom of it. Yeah. I have his, uh, I have his clip here.

Just sitting here in my office and we're discussing something that we just saw here. This is from Apple. We found an issue with your show, the Glenn Beck program, which must be resolved before it's available on Apple podcast. Your show has been removed from Apple podcasts from the Apple Podcasts team. Now, so he went on and on and on. First of all, I'm sitting there going like, Glenn, did you listen to what I told you when I was on your show twice?

That you need to tell people not to ditch the legacy app, which is Apple, because there's over 65 apps and services that use podcastindex.org. And his show is just fine there. It's just fine.

So I'm a little irked about that. And then he wants everyone to petition people. Yes, tell Apple to put us back on. It's sad. It's really sad. I mean, we're not even onify because we won't sign their contract which allows them to do whatever they want including put advertising in and around our show yeah you know this is people there is a fake no agenda done by some kids

uh is it is it the same is it is our show or is it their own show? No, no, it's their own show. Sue them. Well, we would like to at least mention to them to take the damn thing down, but they have no email address. You can't track them down. Jay's been working on this. Nobody knows who they are. Nobody listens to it. They're a couple of kids.

And it's called No Agenda. That's great. Yeah, called No Agenda. Anyway, this is a problem you won't run into if you are in the troll room, trollroom.io, where you can always hang out and listen to the live show. But if you want to make sure that all of your favorite podcasts, even if they're thrown off of some of the big tech Silicon Valley platforms, they'll still continue. You go to podcastapps.com, and with the live shows, you'll get a notification if I remember to send it out.

And then you can open up the app that has all your existing podcasts in it, safe and secure, because they're not going to be thrown away. They won't be. And as you know, Southern P center is after after podcasts whoa very dangerous there's no no moderation well apple either moderate i heard it might have been a trademark issue which that's what that variety magazine did an article on it and was it what was the trademark issue what exactly was nobody knows glenn beck said there was a trademark issue? What exactly was it? Nobody knows. Glenn Beck said there was a trademark. He also admitted there was a trademark issue that's been resolved, but it was months ago. And the actual trademark issue was never brought out in the story.

And Beck didn't say. It just seems volatile, you know? You just don't, you can't depend on these. That's why I started Podcast Index three years ago. You can't depend on it. They don't care. And everybody thinks it's so- No, they don't care. That's the I started Podcast Index three years ago. You can't depend on it. They don't care. And everybody thinks it's so- No, they don't care.

That's the real problem. It's not that they're evil or malicious. No, they don't care. They are. But besides that- They don't care about you. They don't care. That's the main thing.

They don't care. They don't care. And you see on X- That's not like a profit center for them. That's why they don't care. In fact, that's probably irksome to them. They probably would rather not do it. Yeah, exactly.

And then if you look at the comments on X, formerly known as Twitter, you see stuff like, that's okay. We hate hate speech anyway. We don't need you on Apple. Who are these people? We hate hate speech anyway. We don't need you on Apple. So who are these people? We hate hate speech. Glenn Beck is the furthest from a hate speech you can imagine. Anyway, get one of those modern podcast apps.

So it doesn't happen to you and you don't miss your favorite No Agenda show. And the way people are these days, this is my ultimate point, is you'll forget. You're like, oh, what day is it? And you'll forget. You won't get notified, what day is it? And you'll forget. You won't get notified. It won't show up. If you're using Apple podcasts and you're like, Oh gee,

what happened to those? No agenda guys. And you're going to miss out on all. I guess they quit. Yeah. Well, but here's these new kids I found on Spotify. They're kind of cool.

I'll listen to them. Oh man. You can also follow us on no agenda,cial.com for as long as that lasts. I think signups are open again. In fact, I'm quite sure. Let's put Brunetti on it. Dude, did you see Brunetti's Gran Turismo movie? That's a hit.

I think so. I've only seen one negative review. And the negative review was valid and i think brunetti would go for it the negative review was that it was like a little like barbie in that it had way too many product placements yeah i heard the first half hour is basically all product placement yeah sony mostly that's the only way you can get a movie made these days i'm sure well sony's one of the production companies, so they're going to plug their product in it.

It's just, hey, you want to do the movie or not? Ashlyn Speed, the official No Agenda race car driver, she went to see it. She loved it. She and her dad, Greg, two thumbs up. One of the best movies ever made. I'm hearing that a lot of people like it because it's a positive male role model figure in this movie. Yeah, all the male role models are positive.

Yeah, yeah. Except for the one guy who worked for Nissan who's played by Orlando Bloom. That guy who also initiated the whole thing of getting these kids to train to be real race car drivers. Turns out, as you watch him develop in the movie, it's just a weasel. He's good, though. A weasel. Orlando Bloom plays a terrific weasel. Okay.

Have you seen the movie? Yeah, I went to see it with Brunetti when they did a preview in Sacramento. I talked about it on the show. Oh, that's right. Oh, man. I want to go to a red carpet. Well, there's no more red carpet. There was no red carpet. It was just at the, you know, it was at the IMAX in the middle of nowhere outside of Sacramento.

Yeah. Well, I look forward to it. Oh, the middle of nowhere is pretty packed. Hmm. It's cool, though, to do that without promotion. That's not bad. That's not bad. Anyway, you can follow us on noagentosocial.com. All right.

Message to Aaron. We need to get Brunetti. Save an account for Brunetti. John wants him. I thought he was already on. He lost his password and did the same thing I did. Tried to retrieve it, but none of the mechanisms worked. And he gave up.

The mechanisms work fine. You just had the wrong email address. He's so long gone, he's been kicked off, I'm sure, by now twice. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. It worked fine. We'll give him a real easy password. Okay.

All right. We'll come up with something for him. You can follow John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com or Adam at noagendasocial.com. And I know that we're open again because I'm getting people saying, I don't know the answer to the question. Now you have to answer a couple of no agenda related questions to see if you're worthy of an account, which I think is pretty good. What's ITM mean? Stuff like that. I don't understand. I don't have it right.

I don't have the right answers. Well, you'll have to figure that out. Now, this is a value for value show. Well, you'll have to figure that out. Now, this is a value for value show, which is why, you know, when if people kick us off of Apple, we don't really care because we have all these other great apps

that you can listen to us in. And we don't need the, we won't have that immediate hit because, you know, the whole podcast industrial complex runs on downloads. And as long as your app is still running and it downloads the show, whether you listen to it or not, that's how advertisers get

duped into paying money to advertise on these shows. And so the minute that stops, then, you know, whoops, there goes all your income from the app. No, we use the value for value system. your income from the app. No, we use the Value for Value system. We pioneered it about 15 and a half years ago, coming up on our 16th anniversary in October, I believe. And you can find out more about the actual system, valueforvalue.info, the number four, valueforvalue.info. And one of the great ways that people contribute their time, talent, or treasure is art. We love the art that the artists put together for us. We always have a plethora to select from. In fact, I want to thank the artist for episode 1,581.

We titled that Quippy. This was hands down. We both knew it right away. The art was by Sir Paul Couture, artist numero uno. Both knew it right away. The art was by Sir Paul Couture, artist numero uno. He also runs noagendaartgenerator.com, which you can use to upload or you can be refreshing in real time or go back later and look at all the pieces of art we didn't choose. Disagree with us if you want.

Of course, we also use many of these pieces in our chapter art in the modern podcast apps. Paul Couture really nailed it with this one. In fact, I think you said he's going for the win. No, he wasn't fooling around. Yeah, that's exactly what it sounded like. He was going for the win, wasn't fooling around. What else did we look at? I mean, we did look at some other things. Hmm.

Yeah, we did. I like, well, it wasn't competitive enough, but I kind of like the man getting sucked into a jet engine, which I'm still hoping we'll eventually see this happen somewhere. We need another suicide by jet engine ingestion. We had, what else was up here eat the rocks we had uh melons rain bombs what was it was nothing we looked at no i'm saying nothing it was just one thing and that was it i did use the rubber ducky from a couple of shows ago for the newsletter which is just a stunning

piece I can't remember who did it Scaramanga or one of the guys it was that was done by yeah Scaramanga it's just I mean it's done by that is a art generator doing his AI but it's

just he really he really, yeah, he really told the AI what to do and he did a good job of it. Yeah. No, we love it. Sir Paul Couture. Thank you very much for,

for doing that. He actually did two pieces, one with a lighter color, which shows the load of lighter background color. That was the one to go with. And it did make a difference. You can compete along with all of the artists, no agenda,

art generator.com. It's open for all to upload to and to participate in the grand No Agenda Art Challenge twice a week. Now for the treasure, we'd like to thank our executive and associate executive producers right off the bat. These are real titles. You can keep them. They are forever titles. So if you come in at $300 or above, you're an executive producer of the episode. This will be 1582, 200 and between 200 and 300 associate executive producer.

And these are recognized anywhere. Credits are respected. And the way things are going, you know, with the, with the, with the strikes, more and more people.

Yeah. Load up, load up now while you can. We start our executive producership list with Caesar Baptista from Saugerties, New York, three 64, three 63, 64.

And this came in as a note. And I have said notes lined up. Dear John and Adam, the time has come to drag myself over the line and become a no agenda knight. So please accept my donation with an extra penny for the jar. Let me get my jar out here. I did bring that. There we go.

There's the penny jar. Thank you very much. You guys deserve it. I survived the James True Owl attack, little pants gang violence, and the jort wars. What is this? What is this?

James True Owl attack? James True's Owl attack and little pants gang violence and the jort wars? Do you have any idea what that means? I have no idea. So I've locked up the bikes and committed myself to be a better boy.

Even Ira's aching back has gotten better, though. I doubt the kombucha deserves the credit. Sorry, Ira. Anywho, please knight me Sir Gripsalot of the righty-tighty and prepare ripe mandarin bananas and some scarce but worthy caudalia for the after party. Wow, this isn't code, man. Jingles, whooping with the Constitution, Rev. Al, no real conflict, and you're going to need a Bitcoin.

Also, shout out to Deez Laughs, who spits end of show fire. Cesar Baptista from Saugerties, New York. Now, get out there and whoop Obama's behind. Oh, it's a classic remix. There's no real conflict. They're saying that all hell is going to break loose and you're going to need a Bitcoin. That's definitely going to be the weirdest note of the day. So it quickly comes up from Spring, Texas with 333.33. As you move along quite quickly, we don't have a lot of donations today. Sir Quigley comes up from Spring, Texas with 333.33 as we move along quite quickly.

We don't have a lot of donations today. It was pretty lame. 333.33. Happy 33rd to me. Can I please have another 33-year-old? May I have a biscuit for my birthday and some mac and cheese? Thanks for all that you do. Much love

from Houston. Kind regards. Jonathan Walker, Sir Quigley of the Cantankerous. Yes. I was looking for the, I was looking at that. I was trying to spell that weird, that weird drink. I was having trouble with it. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. You slaves can get used to mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese, macaroni and

cheese, cheddar melted together, mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheese cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. And we have Sir Crystal Ball in Dallas, Texas. 333.33. We love that number. Well, F.

If Curry's doing a show while on vacation, WTF is my excuse for not donating. A lot of people apparently didn't think the same way you did Yeah you're like the only guy But we appreciate you We really do I haven't heard a stay safe in a while So that would be good Okay well let me see if I got a stay safe

For you Yeah Oh that's interesting Stay safe. Where are we? Where's my big good? This one. Here we go.

Good to see you. Please stay safe. Yeah. Stay safe. That would be good. So crystal ball of the opportunity. Thank you very much, sir. Onward with Sir Dave goes.

Where'd he go? I don't know. In Naples, Florida. He is the first associate executive producer. $280.82. Since ITM, Jan's far beat for me to succumb to peer pressure. But when Baron JB, the original hater, oh, I'm sorry, hater of my mouth over a decade ago, calls me to task on show 1581, I must step up and defend my honor. Plus, no agenda deserves any treasure they receive.

Thanks for all you do, fellas. Sir Dave goes and all your friends at the Metal Spirits free booze for the round table. Yeah, I love their t-shirt. Sir Michael Mayatico, I think. Milton, Ontario, Canada.

Or Mayatico. Maybe. Mayatico. That would be better. Milton, Ontario, Canada. Or Mayotico. Maybe. Mayotico. That would be better. Milton, Ontario, Canada. 236.25. We're already in our associate executive producers. Hi, John and Adam. Thank you for the best podcast in the universe. I couldn't let my little brother, Rob, be the only executive producer in the family,

so I'm chipping in. Oh, that's right. He did send 333.33. He gets an upgrade. He oh, oh, that's right. He is, he did send 333.33. He gets an upgrade. That's right. We still love our Canadian neighbors. This is my 50th birthday gift to myself. So can I get a birthday shout out to me?

August 16th. Yes. Done. Also my son Mason, August 18th and my dad, Jerry, August 19th. Oh, so close together. It'd be much appreciated. I love the show on the No Agenda community. Big shout out to everybody on No Agenda Social.

I always take the karma and an Al Sharpton jingle of your choice. Sir Michael Matico, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. P.S. F. Trudeau. R-E-S-P-I-C-T. And a karma for you, sir. You've got karma.

Now we have Ed Musial from Waterford, Michigan, at 222.94 with too long a note, but I'll read it anyway. Hello, John and Adam. I started listening to No Agenda a bit over a year ago. It quickly became obvious that I'd be listening enough that I should donate. In the time since that first donation, I have binged on many,

many show. Binged. Binged. Binged. I've binged on many, many shows. Every show is a binge. I would recommend to new and seasoned listeners to occasionally review old episodes, which we discourage.

As it would happen. I just heard episode five. We do. Well, I do, but I think you're, you're in agreement as the, you know,

it's a lot of reasons for it. I just listened to episode five 35. That's going back. Yeah. Days before it was brought up a few shows ago. That got me to thinking that I need to go back even further. Episode 150 became the new start point for the next binge stream. In that episode, 50 minutes into the show,

there was mention of the vaccine push being woven into legislation. Episode 151, one hour and 10 minutes in. There was discussion. This is the reason we don't want people listening to these old shows. There was discussion of what excuse would be generated to gather DNA from us slaves with the perspective of having to test for COVID to return to work, and the test had to be in the invasive, the invasive PCR test. I wondered if that could have been a DNA collection vector.

Probably. I have arrived at night level with my donation. Well, good for you. Accounting below continued to donate the obscurity of sustaining in this obscurity of sustaining level, which means I guess a subscription as I listen to current and archive shows. I like to take the title of Sir Who's Ed, who's Ed, who's Ed. Please have cold stout on hand at the round table. Try City Brewing. Giant Slayer is the best part. It's a beer that he wants on

there. Thank you for your dedication to the best podcast. I regret not catching on earlier, Ed. That's all right, Ed. We're happy to have you here. Oh, you know what? You're doing good work. You know, if you don't mind, since you do it best, I'll take Leanne after you do Linda Lupatkin.

There she is. Jobs Karma. There she is. Jobs Karma. Still not blinking? For a competitive edge, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakersInc.com or just find Linda Lupatkin on the producer list. John, buy Theo's shoes. Hey, she did something new.

That was quite cute. I love how you abused your grandchild in the newsletter. Well done. If you don't know what we're talking about, you better subscribe to the newsletter. All kinds of good child abuse in there. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs.

Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. You've got your karma and then we have leanne webb from riverside california she is the wife of the og godcaster sir steve webb adam i apologize it's a little longer than 250 characters we've never i don't think that's our limit our limit

is like 50 no that's the PayPal limit. I think on mobile. It says, I just love and respect my hubby so much I can't contain myself. I donated through your donation website. Thank you for putting up with me. Steve's birthday is August 19th. So, wishing the happiest birthday ever to Sir OG Godcaster Steve Webb. I think he may truthfully be a baron, but I'm not sure. But what's in the title when you are my prince charming and hold the keys to my heart?

Everything else pales in comparison to the joy you bring to me. It's burning inside of her, Steve. I truthfully could not survive this world without you. I am blessed beyond measure to have you to laugh with, love with, pray with, and share the good and bad in life. I love that we are still learning new things about each other and daily growing closer to God together. I've really enjoyed our 38 years of courtship and they never had a fight. Could you give him anything by Reverend Al? I pray God brings you a fabulous year ahead. You deserve it. You deserve the best. And I'm devoted to you, your

lovely Lady Leanne. Oh, isn't that just nice yes i think we should do uh well since you brought it up why don't we do a little respect everybody can use some of that r-e-s-p-i-c-t and we'll throw in a gratuitous goat for him you've got karma now that wraps up our executive and associate executive producers. As John said, it's a little light today. All eight of them. Yeah, so he's going to take us through to the 50s and then we'll get into our nightings and

our meetups, etc. We're going to start with Eri Kiaragi in Prague, Oklahoma. And this is a switcheroo. This is for Brian Mickey, Super Daddy for five gatos to celebrate his birthday. And we got him on the list. Albert Peter Urin Verheij.

Urin. Enduring. Urin. Netherlands. Urin. Not urine. Urin. Urin.

Urin. Sir, and he is at 133.33. Dame Jennifer, Northfield, Massachusetts, 122.23. Switcheroo for Sir Paul of the Command. Oh, there you go. With a happy birthday. When did Dame Jennifer move to Northfield, Massachusetts? We have more Jennifers.

Oh, yes, we do. We have a lot of Jennifers. This is true. Deborah Maskus in Winnipeg, California. 13333. She sent a note, a card in that was cute. I want to at least bring it up

because she clipped off a a nice 45 cent canadian stamp that she says to replace the australian stamp you accidentally ruined you're the only person i know that would love this stamp and she sends this crazy stamp canada it's like two people wrestling or something against the background of a red moon and a maple leaf. I didn't get the stamp. I only got the note. Oh, the note. Okay.

Well, anyways, thanks for giving us an island of calm and a sea of insanity, she writes. There you go. Serfone Finger No. 1 is back from from louisville kentucky 111 11 cents uh lucas williams roswell new mexico 100 bucks sir paul in twickenham middlesex uk 99 and he's got a birthday call for himself kevin mclaughlin's up next fromran, North Carolina, with the boob donation of $8.008. And he is promoting today banana melons. That's banana melons. Banana melons.

There you go. Alan Graves in Milkers, Minnesota. $8.008. Yeah, there you go. Good name for the town for the $8.008 donation. Kevin McLaughlin's back already for 6-0-0-6. And here he is promoting Select Rocket Melons. Select Rocket Melons.

Aubrey Barnes in Fayetteville, Arkansas, 6006. And he's a de-douching. You've been de-douched. Andrew Edwards in Niceville, Florida, Niceville, 5678. And there's a birthday call out. Adam Wayne in Copperas Cove, Texas. This is another birthday shout out. 5555 for the smoking hot Dame of the Absurd. James Edmondson, South Plainfield, New Jersey, 5510. Edward Richard Butter in London, UK, 5510. Christine Hines in Manchester, New Hampshire.

5123. Bob Butler in Cumming, Georgia. 5069. You missed my donation from last Thursday. I'm still counting it for my knighthood. Sure. And then he comes in with another 5069. That's where we missed it because they came at the same time.

There you go. 5069 for Bob Butler. Christian Freeman San Marcos, Texas, 50. Oh, and the rest of these are 50s. There's not that many. Kevin Dills in Huntersville, North Carolina. Michael Thompson in New Brownfells, Texas. Philip Ballew in Louisville, Kentucky. Big pop-up production.

Big pop-up productions in Minneapolis. Michael Perrotte, Parrotte, Parrotte in Minneapolis, Michael Perrot, Parrot, Parrot in Salem, Oregon, Kelly McDill in Mission Hills, Kansas, Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut, Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta, Crystal Richer in Pilot Point, Texas, Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee. Stephen Schumach in Xenia, Ohio. He's still with us. Peter Odo in Ridge, New York. Jason Pulse, Joan, I'm sorry, Joan.

Hello, Joan. Pulse in Hernando Beach, California. Florida, Hernando Beach, Florida. Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida. Rose Richardson in Oracle, Arizona. John Catalano in House Springs, Missouri. And last on the list is Jason Deluzio in Miami Beach, Florida. Yes, and we thank everyone who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity, or perhaps you're on one of the many sustaining donations.

They do help in these days of the dog days of summer with lighter donation lists, and we are very appreciative of that. And if you'd like to become a producer of the No Agenda Show or an executive or associate executive producer and have one of those fancy titles, go here. Thank you again for supporting us for episode 1582. executive producer and have one of those fancy titles go here. Vorak.org slash N.A. Thank you again for supporting us for episode 1582. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Order.

Shut up, slave. Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! It's your birthday, birthday! On no budget! Now, we do have quite a list for birthdays. Sir Michael Maitico turns 50 on the 16th. Sir Paul of the command line celebrated on the 16th. Sir Michael Maitico wishes his son Mason a happy birthday on the 18th.

Sir William wishes Dame D.C. Girl of Alexandria, Virginia, a happy birthday. She also celebrates on the 18th. That's all tomorrow. Sir Michael is back, wishes his dad Jerry a happy birthday on the 19th. Leanne Webb, of course, wishes Sir O.G. Godcastercaster Steve Webb a happy birthday on the 19th. Eric Kiyaragi says happy birthday to Brian Mickey on the 19th. Caitlin will be turning 19 on August 24th. And Caitlin wishes her mom, Jessica, a happy birthday, turning 45 on the 25th. Sir Quigley is turning 33.

Dame Jennifer says happy birthday to Sir Paul of the Command Line. Andrew Edwards wishes Christy a happy birthday. And Adam Wayne says happy birthday to Dame of the Absurd. And we say happy birthday to all of these people on behalf of the staff and management of the No Agenda Show. We, of course, do not have any title changes, but we do have two nights. And we gladly pull out. I have a Spanish blade. We got one here from the Inquisition.

There we go. Up on stage, please, sir. Let's see. Cesar Baptista. There we go. Cesar Baptista and Sir Woz Ed. Gentlemen, both of you have supported the No Agenda Show. Any amount of $1,000

or more, I'm very pleased and proud to pronounce the K-D as Sir Gripsalot of the Righty-Tighty and Ed Musil becomes Sir Was-Ed. Gentlemen, welcome to the No Agenda roundtable. For you, we've got hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay. We've got some weird ones like right mandarin bananas and cuya de laja da. Cold stout from Tri-City Brewing. Giant Slayer would be the kind. And, of course, we've also got some mutton and mead lined up for you, as we always do. And while you feast on that, if you want, by the way, we also have some ginger ale and gerbils.

Go over to noagendarings.com. You can see the handsome knight rings on display there. All you have to do is size up your ring. You can do that with the handy ring-a-sizer on the website and send in the address so that we can send that off to you. Anyone can go take a look at these rings. They are exclusively for Noah Jenner Knights and for dames. More information is always to be found at devorah.org.

Thank you very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe. Noah Jenner! Be up! Thank you very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe. No Agenda Meetup. It is the perfect accoutrement that you need to have with your No Agenda show. It's an accessory. It's something that just has to be a part of your daily life, your monthly life. You need to attend a No Agenda meetup at least once. And once you go, it's like potato chips. You cannot stop.

You will want to go over and over again. As is witnessed by the 2023 Central Texas Float Meetup. Once again, lots of people came, floated, and met up. In the morning, Gitmo Nation doing it in post. Adam, we missed you and Tina. We will definitely be looking forward to our next meetup to see your shiny, happy faces. This is Brendan from Local 512 saying that we were rolling on the river. This is Sir Eric from Dallas, Texas.

In the morning, thank you to producer Eric who woke up on time. Because he didn't go to sleep. This is Sam Skippy with a Y. Coming to you from Manoj in the meetup. In the evening, y'all. And in the morning. Caleb from Cali here. Coming to you from a no agenda meetup. In the evening, y'all. And in the morning. Caleb from Cali here. I am here with my smoking hot girlfriend

and I am over-informed and under-socialized. Hi, this is Emerson and I'm having a great time. In the morning, this is Cynthia in San Marcos. Greg here from Guida in the morning, everybody. Here at the no agenda meetup in San Marcos. At the rail yard.

This is Sir Caddick Mass from Dallas. I'm so glad I floated on down to the rail yard. Train's good, plane's bad. In the morning, this is Sarah Shonan coming down from Fort Wood to go on the river. Hey, it's a baronet. It's Mary Brett here. I didn't get to go on the float, but I came here to meet everybody. Thanks for your courage.

Chris from Milagro Farm had the best meetup on the river today. Scott was the leader, and I was the tail. Connection is protection. In the morning. Yes, exactly. The slogan, connection is protection. And if you want to connect to get some protect, you can still head off to the Mile High meetup at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science.

They'll be meeting today at 6.30. Charlotte, Thursday, 7 o'clock tonight. And you can have your pee checked by the bio people in Charlotte, North Carolina at Ed's Tavern. On Saturday, the skeptical weirdos of Maui will get together at 11 o'clock Hawaii time at Lunapoko Beach Park. That's in West Maui. And let's see, the park is selected in West Maui near the fire zone. Not sure if this event is on. Maybe check at noagentameetups.com just to make sure that everything's copacetic with that.

Also on Saturday in the morning, Richmond, noon, 1230 at Strange Ways Brewing in Richmond, Virginia. The Lowlands meetup. That will be, oh, this is the Netherlands. Oh, it's a big festival, the Lowlands. And the No Agenda Slaves will be meeting up at the Alpha Stage. That's in Biddinghuizen in Flevoland, the Netherlands

at 1230 Greenwich Mean Time. Just to make it more complicated, check noagendameetups.com to make sure. That will be cool, though, because the Lowlands is like a big multi-day festival. Also on Saturday, the Fort Worth Monthly, 1 o'clock at Flip's Patio Grill, Fort Worth,

Texas. The OKC Southside, 1 o'clock at the Garage I-240 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Also on Saturday, it's Like a Pool Pate in Rhode Island, 1 o'clock at the Garage I-240 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Also on Saturday, it's Like a Pool Pate in Rhode Island, 1.30. Location by RSVP only, the home of Lady Butters in Rhode Island. You might want RSVP for that one.

The Shrunken Amygdala Support Group meets at 2 o'clock at Taft's Bruporium in Cincinnati, Ohio on Saturday. And the South Carolina Mid-State Where Are You meet up at 3.30 at Bar Figaro in Newbury, South Carolina. Flight of the No Agenda meetup, number 43, Trains Good, Planes Bad, 3.33. Homebound Brewhouse in Los Angeles, California. Leo Bravo, of course, hosting that. Spot the Spook as well on Saturday, 5 o'clock. The West End Grill in Huntsville, Alabama. The Super Youper Monthly Bash, 5 p.m.,

Jack Pine Lodge in Manistique, Michigan. And the last one on the list is Sunday the 20th. That will be the Don't Drone Me Santa Fe meetup. Oh, of course, with Sir Jeff Toewig hosting, and that is at the Second Street Brewery in Santa Fe in New Mexico. And I believe I have a promo here. Oh, yes.

Get ready to shrink wrap your amygdala on Saturday, August 26th in Safety Harbor, Florida. Free speech will flow from 3 to 6 p.m. at Giggle Waters Social Club, hosted by the one and only Dame Bullysteed. All knights, dames, and even douchebags are encouraged to RSVP today at noagendameetups.com. There you go.

No Agenda Meetups. Connection is protection. Go to noagendameetups.com to find out where one is going to be held near you. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's easy and always guaranteed a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. Bomb, bomb, bomb. You want to be where you want to be.

Drink it all, have a game. Hold on. You want to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party What are you yammering about? Hello? Oh. Did I lose you?

No, I'm here. Oh, okay. That was weird. You went dead. I went dead? And then you came in with somebody yammering. Hold on a second. Um, I don't know.

Did I go dead? Did I go dead? Did I go dead? I thought I heard you yammering in the background. Well, I don't know what you were hearing, but it wasn't me. Oh, well, something else. Okay. It's hard to tell. Whenever I hear something yammering, I presume it's you.

I think that's a reasonable presumption, but no. No, not this time. I have a question question let's talk about maui for a second didn't that first do isos oh i'm sorry you're right do i do i do even i do have isos i think i've got a lot of isos uh whoa i do want to talk about maui yeah because of the new the new What are your ISOs? What are yours? Okay, I'll go first. I have this one. 100% Lee. I have this one. It was a pleasure eating bugs with you.

Thank you so much. Balls apart. That is incredibly good news. Thank you for talking. I thought that was a good news. Okay. And I have. Thank you for talking. Yeah, I thought that was a good one. Beat that.

Beat that. I don't know if I can. Mine are scrappy, but I do have three. Okay. Let's start with reasons. Reasons. For those reasons, we're out. This is from Shark Tank.

No, actually, it was from a podcast. Oh, really? How about this one? Get a job. Okay. Get a job. No, no, no, no, no. Okay, then move on.

Move on. I don't think you can beat my, I think this one. Thank you for talking. I think that's just too good. I thought the other one was better. Okay. This one. That is incredibly good news.

That one. Our whole show is incredibly good news. All right. Yeah. You want to talk about the book? This book is bull crap. Obviously it's bullshit. I got a note from one of our producers who's a book writer.

Hold on, let me just set this up. So a book shows up on Amazon, and hold on, I have it here. It's called, I got it right here, Fire and Fury, the story of the 2023 Maui fire and its implications for climate change. Can I just point out one glaring thing that no one has really mentioned? It's 44 pages. Yeah, it is a Kindle book. It's a giblet.

It's a blog post. Yeah, it probably is. But this guy's irked about it, Producer Paul. He says, I've written 20 books. I never had one written, edited, in one day before the event covered ended um i mean the fire was still going when this book comes out yeah yeah that was but it is it is a kindle book it's not really bound okay well you wouldn't expect that but the but what i think what's so interesting about this event, first of all, it's a horrific event. It's much worse than we know it is.

I think it's really, really, really bad. But they threw in this conspiracy stuff so quickly that it's really removed the entire focus on, on the blame. You know, it's like, Oh, the directed energy weapons. And no, come on.

It was so, this is, it's so obvious. Once you take a look at it, that yes, no one really minded that this burned down because they've been, I think they've been looking at this beautiful Maui landscape for a long time, but they throw in all this directed energy

weapon stuff just to, you know, to call everybody a coup. No, it's because Republicans are stupid. Oh. It's more of the same, you know, to make the Republicans look like, but it's all Republicans, obviously. No Democrat would ever think such a thing.

Oh, is that it? Okay. That's's my guess here's my maui update okay and next the death toll from the maui wildfires climbs to 106 and the biden administration now promising a full reimbursement for some emergency work that he has approved the governor's request for 100% reimbursement for the emergency work that's being done for a period of 30 days within the first 120 days at the governor's choosing. It's been a week since the wildfire began in Maui. The blaze traveled from grasslands all the way into popular tourist destination Lahaina. 2,200 buildings burnt down in a matter of hours and the scale of the damage is becoming clear as search and rescue continues. To rebuild Lahaina, FEMA said that the estimated cost could total up to $5.5 billion.

What are conditions like there now? A highway into Lahaina reopened at 6 a.m. local time today, allowing residents and first responders back in for the first time. Communication remains difficult, as much of the electricity is still off. Although power companies said it's back for about 80% of the island. A small aircraft flew along the coast using loudspeaker to tell people where to get water and supplies. But folks on the island are questioning the state's emergency notification system. Sirens stationed around the island never sounded. Okay, so I will pick it up there.

I've had a lot of time to look at this. And the Maui chief did a little chat. This is very, very interesting. People, there's a lot. Okay, let me step back for one second. There's a lot of Hawaiian being spoken. And to me, a lot of it is virtue signaling, and I'm a little sick of it. You know, it's all like, where's your aloha?

Where's your malaka makalaka? And everyone who does that, I don't understand Hawaiian. And everyone's doing this. And by the way, where's Tulsi Gabbard? I haven't heard from her. She hasn't come out and said anything yet. But of course, Obama comes out. So Obama got the OS, but he lived there.

I'm sorry, Obama comes out. I just slipped there. So Obama comes out. Yeah, that's cute. Yeah. And now he apparently lived in Hawaii growing up, And he does a whole bunch of this stuff. Aloha, everybody. Like so many people around the world, Michelle and I have been absolutely heartbroken by the devastating images coming out of Maui and Lahaina over the last week.

You know, as someone who grew up in Hawaii, as someone who has taken my family to enjoy the incredible beauty of that island and the hospitality of the people of Lahaina, we now find ourselves mourning the lives that are lost and our thoughts and prayers go out to the families that have lost so much the thing about it is though thoughts and prayers in a moment like this are not enough yeah we have to step up and we have to help we have to help lahaina rebuild and the good news is is that the hawaii red cross and malama maui are mobilizing what's's Milana Maui? Have you heard of Milana Maui? See, this was such a crappy video. Horrible sound. He looks like crap. And then he's mentioning these. I mean, Hawaiian Red Cross. OK, but he's mentioned Milana Maui.

I've never heard of this. There's no lower third. Nothing to provide direct support to people. I have no idea who are desperately. Sounds like a hotel. I'm asking you to do everything you can to generously support the Malawa Maui effort. Malawa Maui.

If all of us, the Ohana, pull together. Using Hawaiian words. And do as much as we can. Mahana. To give back to an island and a town and people who have given us so much. I'm absolutely confident that Lahaina and Maui

and those families are going to be able to rebuild. But we've got to be a part of that. So please provide generous support to the Hawaiian Red Cross and to Malama Maui right now. Mahalo. Nui loa. Yeah, okay. So now to Malama Maui right now. Mahalo. Nui loa.

Yeah, okay. So now we get the Maui chief. You'll hear some more of this aloha business. The Maui chief, who did not sound the alarm, he does not... Can I just throw a weird thing in there? Do you know that the police chief from Maui was the same police chief that was in Las Vegas during that shooting thing from the hotel? Yes, I do know that.

And that's, you know, and so what you need to say after that, John, is coincidence. I think not. I mean, that's I mean, yeah, he was there in 2017, I think. Yeah, I'm just saying I just thought that was. I know. I know. But this is a real disaster.

And I'm the first guy to say directed that was screwy. I know, but this is a real disaster, and I'm the first guy to say directed energy weapon if it's true. I'm the first guy to come out with any conspiracy theories. Wait, if it's true? Oh, yeah. Well, directed energy weapons are real. This is not this case. This is very, very clearly caused by power lines. Tonight, search teams in Lahaina continue their heartbreaking work.

Already more than 100 bodies found, and they're still looking for the lost. What was once a paradise is now a mass grave. While the cause of the blaze is still being investigated, there's increasing scrutiny on Hawaiian Electric. there's increasing scrutiny on Hawaiian Electric. Data from Whisker Labs, a private company that monitors the grid through a network of sensors, shows 34 major electrical incidents on the power lines around Lahaina. Literally dozens and dozens of faults occurring over that several hour period overnight, any one of which could cause an arc fault that would cause and spark a wildfire. Hawaiian Electric didn't specifically address that data or the multiple lawsuits,

but said in part, we know there is speculation about what started the fire, but the causes haven't been determined. This was a preventable circumstance. Graham Lipsmith is one of the attorneys who filed suit against the utility. The ultra hazardous activity was keeping the power running during this very serious wind event. But Hawaiian Electric CEO told me they don't have a program for shutting off power. It can be seen as creating a hardship for those customers that have medical needs. In Lahaina, the electricity powers the pumps that provide the water. And so that was also a critical need during that time.

Shutting off the power wasn't an option, just to understand what you're saying. There are choices that need to be made and all of those factors play into it. I think that's a pretty good report, even though it's from NBC. That seems reasonable to me. And we have a lot of producers who have been emailing me boots on the ground.

A lot of producers. So this is why I'm just not going to go into all the conspiracy stuff. And you can stop emailing me about it. But this was complete mismanagement, complete stupidity, including the entire emergency management agency. And tonight we're learning shocking new details that reveal Maui residents aren't just dealing with a monumental natural disaster, but also a disastrous response. CBS News has learned that Maui's emergency operations chief had no disaster experience. Well, why does that matter? Because it's his department that's responsible for setting off the warning sirens.

For the first time since the early hours of the tragedy, the main Lahaina Road is now open, allowing residents to see what's left. There are now at least 40 cadaver dogs helping with the search, going block after block of burnt-out homes and cars, looking for the hundreds of people that are still unaccounted for. The White House announcing today that the president and first lady will travel to Maui on Monday to survey the destruction and meet with first responders and survivors.

And by the way, I'd like to point out that one of the senators of Hawaii is that moron Mazie Hirono. So no wonder the state's a mess. And so now we get to the Maui chief and he's going to explain why there was no siren that went off. Apparently they had cell phone warnings, but that came very, very late in the game,

but he does not regret it. Do you regret not sounding the sirens? I do not. And the reason why... So many people said they could have been saved if they had time to escape. Is this the fire chief or the chief of the emergency response? Chief of the emergency response.

Okay. They wouldn't have known that there was... He was in charge of the in charge of the the sirens. Yeah, and the report said he has zero experience in this arena. Correct. And as we know, so many bodies were found in the ground.

Do you want him to give you the answer? So this is some dude who steps in, who is not in uniform, steps out from behind the chief and says, Hey, you want him to give the answer? You want to give the answer? It's not very mahalo of you. That's Governor Josh Green. Is that Green? That guy's a dick.

We're found in the ground. Do you want him to give you the answer? I do, but I want to hear it out. Let him finish his answer. I'm sorry. There's a lot of people. Well, you're talking and you're not letting him talk. If you want to talk, come up here.

I'm ready for the answer. Then wait. The sirens, as I had mentioned earlier, is used primarily for tsunamis, and that's the reason why many of them are found, almost all of them are found, on the coastline. The public is trained to seek higher ground in the event that the siren is sounded. In fact, on the website of the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency, the following guideline is provided. If you are in a low-lying area near the coastline, evacuate to high grounds, inland or vertically to the fourth floor and higher of a concrete building. Alerts may also come in the form of a wireless emergency alert.

Had we sounded the siren that night, we're afraid that people would have gone malka. Malka? And if that was the case, then they would have gone into the fire. And so that is the reason why... So what he's saying, malka, I guess, he's saying is that when people hear the siren, then they immediately run for higher ground

because that means it's a tsunami and they only use it for tsunami. By the way, you're going to get some other official stepping in and telling everybody they better show some uh aloha our protocol has been to use wea and eas by the way i should also note that there are no sirens mauka or on the mountain side where the fire was spreading down so why not the siren it would not have saved those people Why not? the question please respect the speaker who is responding and give them that space just as they're giving you the space for you to ask your question everyone please show some aloha kindness now i i don't understand something here he's saying the sirens that means that you know that's only for

tsunamis and we like giving the emergency alerts well i wasn't born yesterday and i've been doing the show for a while. And I remember that Hawaii had used sirens for something completely different that was not tsunami related. They've got joint giant voice systems. It's the sound of peril in paradise. Today, for the first time since the Cold War era, a nuclear attack warning system is active in Hawaii. Vern Miyagi's team triggers the alarm. The situation with North Korea and all the things that we've been seeing over the past. I don't have to play the whole report, but they set up a whole system and they had that was backed up by the alerts.

You remember it? One was triggered accidentally. People were freaking out they all went to shelters incompetence that we're seeing with this guy this is bullcrap this not sounding the alarm saying it's only for tsunami doesn't make sense i may be wrong doesn't make sense to me now to this governor green now what what if the idea was hey hey, you know, if that thing ever, if this all burns down one day and it burns every single year because of poor management after the plantations were removed and they never did. Yeah, after the sugar cane crops were removed, the fire controlled burns were stopped. Same thing, the poor management of the the forest and paradise exactly the same type of

horrific results so i'm not we're just we're just not doing that uh if the idea was to do that you know once it burns i'll let it burn you know and then we're gonna take uh we're gonna take over that land and we'll sell it off i think governor green actually admits that in this clip i'm already thinking about ways for the state to acquire that land so that we can put it into workforce housing to put it back into families or to make it open spaces in perpetuity as a memorial to people who were lost we want this to be something that we remember after the pain passes as a magic place and behind Bahaina will rebuild. The tragedy right now is the loss of life. The buildings can be rebuilt over time. Even the banyan tree may survive. But we don't want this to become a cleared space where then, yes, people from overseas just come

and decide they're going to take it. The state will take it and preserve it first. So I think that that's what's going to happen. The state will take over the land because the insurance companies are not going to pay out. Maui fires come in a moment of turmoil for the insurance industry. Hawaii had the nation's lowest rate for homeowner coverage because it had not suffered many natural disasters. And a lot of the buildings are not up to code we're not going to cover you no no we're not going to take care of you

these poor people they're really getting screwed they're really getting screwed big time and then and then oprah who who's whose place didn't burn for whatever reason. I'm sure it's because she's Illuminati. She goes to one of the shelters with a CBS camera. She goes over there. Oh, let me go get some great footage for Gail. Luckily, they said no, no. Yeah, they put the kibosh on the camera. You can't have the camera in there.

That just clinches it for me. So, and we'll probably never know exactly what happened. Oh, and they put her, you know, she ended up being filmed by somebody with a phone. Of course. But it's like, yeah, this was a publicity stunt. It was shameless. It really is. Don't you think?

Yeah, it's really bad. So I feel very bad, very badly for these people. And I'll send them all the aloha, malaka, laka, hawa, whatever. I don't speak the language. But, man, God bless you people. Have mercy on you. The local reports I'm getting from people is very, very bad. Well, they rousted them.

Now they can build some cool stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just sad. While we're on the topic of rousting, while we're on the topic of rousting, Apple apparently was rousting people. They rousted people with that.

Do you remember that they purposely made their iPhones underperform when they got older? Yeah, of course they did. That was the smart thing to do. Yeah, and they got off cheap. Apple is telling eligible iPhone users their checks are in the mail. The company says it will pay up to $500 million to settle the so-called Batterygate class action lawsuit. to $500 million to settle the so-called BatteryGate class action lawsuit. About six years ago, users began accusing Apple of deliberately slowing down older iPhones with aging batteries.

Payments will amount to about $65 per person. Bad. $65. I know. I know. Who cares? So, yeah. No, I was going to do one more big tech story.

Oh, which one? This is the company that got hired originally in Ohio. Or Kentucky. And Kentucky, yes, to use AI. Yeah, this is a fiasco of old times. The AI stuff, all the great AI to manage the city's school bus routes. This morning, no school again today for Jefferson County, Kentucky. Public schools after this week's school bus meltdown. I feel like we were lucky. We were lucky that he was three hours late.

Parents like Erin Hinson waiting hour after hour for their child to be bused home after school. The latest arrival time, incredibly, just before 10 p.m. Kindergarteners were going to the bathroom on the bus because they were there for so long. There were kids sitting in cafeterias until well after 7.30. My child did not get home until 8 o'clock. She got home at 8 o'clock because I had to go to the bus depot to pick her up as well the problem last school year the district made major changes to its transportation plan citing bus driver shortages and other staff vacancies spending two hundred thousand dollars on a firm that cut routes and stops but to some parents the changes

seem to have made things worse so in in this whole report, they don't mention Alpha Route, who, again, here's another company touting its connections to MIT, just like that sewage wastewater lady. And they said their mathematical models and machine learning technology is a way to save money. When you listen to longer versions of this report, you hear stuff like, I didn't. I have another minute of this if you want to save money. Smooth. You listen to longer versions of this report. You hear stuff like I didn't. I have another minute of this if you want to hear it. Oh, yeah. The thing I'm looking for is the is the point where they show the plan to the bus drivers and they all say this is not doable. Let me see if it's in here.

There are bus drivers that are crying as they come in and they're leaving apologizing. And I don't believe it's in here. There are bus drivers that are crying as they come in and they're leaving, apologizing. And I don't believe it's their fault. Superintendent Marty Polio releasing a statement announcing schools will be closed till Monday. We have to be better at what we are doing. And once again, I'll say this, that lies squarely on my shoulders and my team's shoulders. It is not on bus drivers. It's not on the school. It's on me and my team. And we are going to fix this. But this parent says the superintendent's transportation plan flat out failed. It's project management. Like if this is, this is your project, this is your job. This is what you get paid to do. And if it's anyone,

I feel like you fell down a little bit. A little bit? Bus drivers in the Louisville area are spending the canceled school days practicing routes and making changes. But parents are worried Monday will be another dismal day for student drop-offs. Adam and John, we'll listen to episode 1581. You asked a question about what Fortune 500 company would be using AI for. Well, I'm a team manager in customer service, one of the 10 biggest banks in the U.S. At my recent roundtable meeting, The topic of AI was discussed. They let us know the company is looking into implementing AI into our customer service knowledge base, which houses all of our

processes and procedures. These procedures are to be searched for and used by the frontline staff during each customer interaction to ensure any and all disclosures and all steps are followed to address any customer concerns the thought is ai will help reduce human error in in locating the correct process or procedure they'll i don't know which bank this is but they're doomed and i got a note from one of our producers who works at ibm it's so bad there that now they're, you know, because they still have Watson. Now they have Watson X. And they're doing in-house hackathons. Hey, guys, see if you can come up with any cool products that we can use.

And everyone's like, this shit doesn't work. It can't do anything. There's nothing of any interesting importance that they can create with this. Other than answer questions. I got the AI story. Oh, good. Driverless cars in San Francisco. Here we go.

A utilities commission in California has voted to allow driverless car companies act like taxis in San Francisco. But as NPR's Derek Kerr reports, they've faced resistance from emergency responders. The San Francisco police and fire departments have been vocal about their opposition to driverless cars. They say the vehicles have impeded first responders operations, running through yellow emergency tape and blocking firehouse driveways. Here's San Francisco Fire Chief Janine Nicholson. Our folks cannot be paying attention to an autonomous vehicle when we've got ladders to throw.

Nicholson has been urging California's transportation regulator to halt the growth of driverless vehicle programs in the city. But in a three-to-one vote, regulators decided to allow the programs to expand. Now autonomous vehicles run by Cruz and Waymo can pick up passengers and charge a fare just like a taxi. This is so dumb. It really there's nothing that it just doesn't work. Computers can newsletter photo of the one that went into the cement.

Oh, hold on. Whoa, whoa. Hey, hey, I'm Zippy. I'm the No Agenda AI. I can do anything. These guys can't. Well, that's true. No Agenda does have the best AI.

That's true. The return of Zippy. The return of Zippy! So, I have... Zippy's going to... He's our I have... Zippy's our AI, and Zippy's just going to come in and start telling us what's going on. It was directed energy weapons!

Yeah, well, hopefully he does it a better job. Can you say D-E-W? Can you say D-E-W? That's what burned Maui, man. See? Zippy knows. Yes? So, there's this weird story about, this not covered by many people but i don't know but it's just it's funny story i don't know why they're not covering it but i think i got this

from ntd this is the tale of the you know the guy the american soldier that gets picked up by the north koreans yeah i i do have uh before we do the ncd report let's do the uh i have i have this i have this i have this um nbc lester holt it's short it's 23 seconds for the first time tonight there's word from north korea about that u.s soldier who bolted last month north korea's state media says private travis king confessed to crossing into the north because of, quote, inhuman maltreatment and racial discrimination against the U.S. Army or within the U.S. Army. The Pentagon says it can't verify the alleged comments and remains focused on King's safe return. And this is in the. Here we go.

North Korea. I'm sorry. I was just going to say it's a little more elaborate. Yeah, no doubt. North Korea has broken its silence on a crucial matter. The nation has confirmed detaining the U.S. soldier who recently crossed the border into North Korea. NTD's Jason Perry has the latest. On Wednesday, North Korea officially confirmed it has detained the U.S. soldier who ran across the border.

Witnesses say the soldier sprinted across the border while on a private tour of the demilitarized zone. The newly released statement by North Korean state media says Travis King, a private second class in the U.S. Army, illegally intruded into the territory of North Korea. It added that during an investigation, King confessed that he decided to go to North Korea because he, quote, harbored ill feelings against inhumane maltreatment and racial discrimination within the U.S. Army. The statement also said that Travis wanted to seek refuge in North Korea or another country. There was no immediate verification that Travis actually made these statements, but his uncle said previously on ABC that King had said something

similar and that he appeared to change after getting into a fight and going to jail. The messages became strange. I was like, you okay? And he's telling me, no, they're trying to kill me. And he was saying things like, said they're racist. It made me seem like something was going on with him, like he was fearing for his life. And his mom said prior to King crossing the border that she got a strange call from him in the middle of the night. And I was half asleep and he just called and he just screamed,

I'm not the Army soldier you want me to be. I'm not the Army soldier you want me to be. I'm not the Army soldier you want me to be. And he kept screaming that out loud. And then all of a sudden the phone hung up and they were taking him to the hospital. And King's grandfather previously said this on AP. I think something's wrong with him. He ain't thinking clearly. I don't think he was just ran out there like that.

I would like to see him come back. Whoa, this is much, much more in-depth. How come we're not getting this here? They don't want to push this sort of... Maybe that'll be a run to North Korea, because it's very embarrassing. Wow. Why would anyone want to go to North Korea

when you can have all this great stuff? This is part two of the clip. On Wednesday, State Department Deputy Spokesperson Vedant Patel was asked about North Korea's recent statement on Private King. What I can say is that we cannot verify the comments attributed to Private King. What I will say is, though, that we remain focused on his safe return, and our priority is to bring Private King home. And we are working through all available channels to achieve that outcome. Patel added that since King crossed the border, North Korea has not responded to any messages from the State Department. A spokesperson for King's family, Jonathan Franks, recently posted

a message on X on behalf of the family. It says King's mother is worried about her son and she would be grateful for a phone call from him. I thought this was a good story. Yeah. I can't get used to people saying X, though. It's still weird. Very, very weird. I don't see it. I say very weird.

OK, there's a couple other things in the news that are interesting. This I got, I think this is from France 24. Not hearing a lot about this guy, but the leading, apparently the leading candidate for Argentina's presidency is an interesting guy. He's a right winger, I think. Well, he's beyond that. They call him the wig. This guy is crazy.

Oils and hugs for a political outsider who's just lit up Argentina's election race. Javier Millet laps up the applause knowing that he is now one of the favourites

to rule the country. They call him La Peluca or the wig for his wild hair. Rock anthems always provide the soundtrack to his rallies. The former singer of a Rolling Stones tribute band,

an economics professor, promises radical change in a country where two political forces have ruled for decades. People are sick of the cost of living crisis. It doesn't matter whether it is good or bad manners. Enough of the fallacy of discussing form. Let's discuss content, the content that you don't want and that we have plenty of. I, therefore, invite Argentinians to join the liberal revolution that will make Argentina a world power again in 35 years.

The so-called Mileistas, supporters of Mile, say he's offering something completely different. He's flattered to be called an Argentinian Donald Trump or Jair Bolsonaro. Critics say his credentials are straight from anti-establishment central casting. A longtime political chat show guest draws a crowd wherever he goes. He opposes abortion, denies the existence of global warming and calls Argentina a tax hell, pledging a rapid reduction in government spending and changing the currency to the dollar. Elections are two months away. The primaries reflect the anger of the political system. The current president, Alberto Fernandez,

is standing down, blamed for the failure to tackle the economic crisis and spiraling inflation. Many Argentinians prepared to gamble on the unpredictable, disillusioned by the tried and tested. Yeah, this guy's interesting. He's also a Bitcoiner. Makes him even funnier. He looks a little like Trump. And like Trump and Elvis kind of mixed. He's got the sideburns and everything. I like it. It's very interesting.

Well, it's definitely going to provide entertainment. Update. I have some. It's in the show notes. People can take a look. It appears that a lot of small arms, and with that, it's also, it's ak-47s etc that are blanketing the the belt of africa are coming from libya which is another tell in my book well to make that tell even more interesting play my libya advance warning clip where is OK, got it. After two days of heavy fighting, some semblance of calms

returned to the Libyan capital. Security forces are patrolling the streets of Tripoli. Local media report that rival militias began exchanging gunfire Monday. The violence that claimed at least 45 lives in the Libyan capital this week underscores the power struggle that's grown since the late dictator Muammar Gaddafi was overthrown and later killed more than a decade ago. Now, weren't we shipping arms to Libya? Wasn't that part of the whole problem? Wasn't that part of what Hillary Clinton was doing? And her ambassador got killed. Weren't these arms going to Libya?

I'm not sure where she was shipping arms, but probably. We came, he left, we died, you know, kind of thing. Yeah, we came, he saw, he died. That one. We came, we saw, he died. Yeah, that's what I mean i don't know but this this stinks all this stinks it's totally stinks i do have a niger report but but that's that's good for the next show i think we're running out of time but i want to do one yeah we are just want

to do one more thing on uh i want to do one more thing on Ukraine. Because there is some movement, there is some development. And the first one is, have you seen this crazy spokeshole for Ukraine now? The American transgender? Yeah, that one. Blonde. Sarah Ashton Cirillo. Quickie from Sarah.

Do you know the difference between us and them? Besides fighting under this flag and for freedom on behalf of the people of Ukraine, all the Russians are fighting for tyranny and dictatorship. It's pretty simple. We're human. And those guys most definitely aren't. Slav Ukraine. We're human and those guys definitely aren't.

But did you hear the one where he calls Putin a vampire? Oh, no, I didn't get that one. That's well, that's the better one. Oh, oh, do you have it? You can see that he's got the blood coming out of the corner of his mouth and he, you know. No. Yes. This is something phony about this guy what is i don't believe any of it that he's a

spokesperson for anyone yeah i'm i'm not sure what there's weird stuff going on and then um this i'd say is is kind of the uh is kind of the thing that we need to be looking at this uh this cargo ship here Here we go. So, you know, cargo ships have not been able to leave the port. And we've kind of been thinking that this is, you know, because arms are on these ships. But this is still under the grain deal. Oh, we've got to get some ships off because people can't eat. They need cereals and grain.

And then this report comes out. So, Emmanuel, let's start off with this cargo ship in the Black Sea. What's the latest there? Well, this is the first cargo ship to depart the Ukrainian port, the port of Odessa, since last week's Ukraine's announcement that it would open a temporary corridor in the Black Sea in a bid to unblock the situation, to send some of those ships willing to sail with cargo on board to other ports. And this ship has left the port of Odessa this morning with 30,000 tons of goods, of also cereals, Ukrainian cereals. It was blocked in Odessa port for 17 months. It bears a flag from Hong Kong. And as you mentioned, it is sailing now in the Black Sea.

And there remains to be seen which response Russia will give, knowing that yesterday it stopped, it halted a ship that was sailing towards Ukraine because Moscow warned that any ship outgoing or incoming from Ukrainian ports might be considered a threat. And this comes nearly a month after Russia decided not to renew the Black Sea agreement on cereals and nearly a month after Russia started to heavily shell Ukrainian port infrastructures in the south of the country. The latest of this attack happening last night with at least 13 drones sent against port infrastructures and damaging grain depots in Leni and Ismail ports in the south of Ukraine. All right, this being Thursday, we don't have a recent update, so we don't know exactly if Russia has stopped this shipment or not.

If they don't, I think that must mean something good. Maybe there is some deal underway. is some deal underway. If they do, I mean, you heard it's all these tonnage of goods, but not necessarily grain, just some cereal. It could be all kinds of stuff, and it's under a Hong Kong flag. So this is weird. Yeah, yeah.

Okay, that's the best response I can get, okay's all you're gonna get from me okay did you want to play anything else before we leave in seven they've spent their 17 months gotta be this you know it seems pretty fishy it's not filled with grain it would go bad yeah uh do i have one last thing i have niger i'll play that in the next uh show uh the inflation reduction stuff's no good i'll play that in the next show uh no i'm good i'm good i'm done you're done all right you're done well everybody uh doing it here on the vacation i hope you uh appreciate the value you received let me see what do we have coming up on No Agenda? Are you going to do vacation hours again next Sunday?

Yeah, we'll do it again next Sunday, definitely. Same hours, same time, same place? Same time, same place, and you and I have to do the wraparounds for the special that we have on the Thursday after that, which is going to be a doozy. It's all of the No Agenda Opens.

Yeah, it's actually quite, if anything's going to be dense, it's going to be that show. Yeah, it's pretty trippy, actually. Grumpy Old Ben's coming up next. AI Power. Oh, that'll be good. They're talking about AI.

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