No Agenda - 1590 - "Bold Action"

Starting point is 00:00:00 Grab her and throw her into camp. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday, September 14, 2023. This is your award-winning Kimba Nation Media Assassination episode 1590. This is no agenda. Fossilized, mummified,

Starting point is 00:00:15 and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all wondering, when did burrata cheese become a thing?

Starting point is 00:00:29 I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Well, I happen to be a big fan of burrata. The burrata cheese. Of course you would be. Oh, I think this has been around forever. In Italy.

Starting point is 00:00:42 In everywhere. Yeah. Italy, etc. etc yeah burrata cheese yeah it's been everywhere italy uh everywhere italy and uh holland and france spain spain spain has always had i never heard of it until two years ago. You never heard of Burrata until two years ago? You, John C. Dvorak, wine connoisseur and foodie to the stars. Yeah. Wow. I mean, it may have passed my way, but it never was a thing where they're using it left and right on every cooking show on TV. Oh, I see. You watch some television. Don't do that. It's not good for your health. was a thing where they're using it left and right on every cooking show on tv oh i see you watch

Starting point is 00:01:26 some television don't do that it's not good for your health you should not oh on cooking shows okay i got you i got you you know another one that reminds me of another one that took off like a rocket yes smoked paprika no no it's the other one no there's some um no smoked paprika became a big thing and i know exactly where it came from okay that one i did catch the genesis all right what's been around smoked paprika is not a new invention but again it became a thing um rachel ray okay cooking shows yeah cooking shows popularized well it's it's like cooking shows like podcasts whatever we do on our podcast here shows up on talker shows up all over the place i mean everyone who else was telling me like they're always taking our stuff

Starting point is 00:02:19 that's how it goes they are that's what you were leaders. We are leaders. The distraction of the week on the agenda. That's right, everybody. As if your world wasn't crazy enough, as if you weren't spun up in this nutty world. Of course, we've got to distract you and get you all jacked up about this. Well, tomorrow, NASA set to release the findings of a heavily anticipated report on unidentified anomalous phenomena, also known as UAPs. Now, it comes as Mexico holds its first ever hearing on UFOs with scientists putting on display what they claim are the remains of two extraterrestrials. News Nation's Joe Khalil joins us live with these developments. I just love that News Nation leads everything.

Starting point is 00:03:09 This is the same News Nation that had the so-called whistleblower for an exclusive interview. News Nation, they found their niche. Their niche is bullcrap stories about aliens. They've really nailed it this time i have a i have a clip no you came from it came from elsewhere this actually came from ntd so i was to give him a little more credit oh well not just not just credit we'll give him a jingle this is ntd

Starting point is 00:03:37 the actual aliens mexico story mexico could become the first country to speak about the presence of aliens on earth in a government document. Lawmakers considered evidence today, including small corpses that one researcher calls non-human. According to organizers, these two mummified stuffed bodies were recovered in 2017 in Peru. They are reportedly 700 and 1800 years old respectively, with only three fingers on each hand and elongated heads. The lead researcher said that DNA testing shows many differences from humans. He sees them as clear evidence of aliens, but has previously been refuted by other scientists for some of his related stances. This all happened at Mexico's first public congressional hearing on the proposed Aerospace Protection Law.

Starting point is 00:04:29 Oh, so they also have a military industrial complex that needs money. That's what this was about when we'd had the hearings a couple weeks ago. Oh, we need money in case the aliens come. So they have that too. Right at the end, they said it. That's what it is.

Starting point is 00:04:45 Let me hear it again. Space Force. They came 17,000 years ago. They'll be here any minute. They should send the DNA to 23andMe. See how many politicians are related to it. This all happened at Mexico's first public congressional hearing on the proposed Aerial Space Protection Law.

Starting point is 00:05:02 Aerial Space Protection Law. Money. Ukraine is petering out. We haven't gotten Taiwan going yet. Let's get some aliens in there. We can get some space technology going, people. Satellites. This is...

Starting point is 00:05:19 I mean, does anyone believe this at this point? I mean, I think the shark has been jumped with this one, to coin a phrase. Did you see the picture going around? Yeah, one of Diane Feinstein? Yeah. I saw that. I couldn't stop laughing.

Starting point is 00:05:35 The other one is actually younger than Diane Feinstein. Well, it's too bad because, well, maybe it was was purposeful but it certainly covers up the apple event man i i can't believe i watched it but i did and i and i thought you did yes would do enough to avoid it i have a report i have a quick boots on the ground report i watched the apple event of the new iphone and the new are you the boot i'm the boot? I'm the boot, yeah. I'm the boot. I watched it. I watched the whole thing. So, first of all, just so you know, John, everything, every single thing

Starting point is 00:06:12 is gorgeous! This is the key word you got to use with iPhone now. It's gorgeous. It's just an iPhone. It's gorgeous. It's a watch. It's gorgeous. So, they start this thing off with the Apple Watch. I mean, I'm not going to play any clips or anything,

Starting point is 00:06:32 but they started off with eight testimonials of people who almost died. I almost died because I had a heart attack. I almost died because I had AFib. I almost died because I had low blood pressure. I almost died because I was hiking and I was stuck. Almost died because I was in a crash and I was unconscious. Oh, that's interesting. Almost died because my EV ran out of battery on a Texas highway.

Starting point is 00:06:55 But the Apple Watch saved me. That's how they started the whole thing off. That's a good bit. They're telling you, without without this you could be dead with without the apple watch you might be not a single time they've done a pretty good job of convincing people to have to carry a phone with them all the time well now if you get the the cellular apple watch you don't need a phone it's got everything in there oh yeah you you can just double tap with your fingers and you don't even have to touch the phone anymore because now it's tracking your body movements it's fantastic

Starting point is 00:07:27 i have had a non-charging watch for 34 years it's gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous and it works just great it has never saved my life that i know of but may have it could probably stop a bullet the apple watch probably can't. Something else I noticed. 90% of all men that work at Apple are bow-legged. This is very, very interesting phenomena. It starts with Tim Cook. He's bow-legged. Half of these guys, no, more.

Starting point is 00:07:59 90% of these guys are bow-legged. And the women, wow, man, wearing very unattractive skirts with, you know, gym shoes, runners. If we were producing this, it would be very different. Well, I sure never noticed the bow-legged thing. Now that you point it out,

Starting point is 00:08:18 I probably won't be able to take my eyes away from it. They're all bow-legged. Now location on your iPhone is even more precise. I wonder what they're straddling so much that they all bow-legged. Now, location on your iPhone is even more precise. I wonder what they're straddling so much that they got bow-legged. Hey-o.

Starting point is 00:08:31 So now, when you're looking for your friends in the farmer's market, which is hilarious. Oh, they're in the farmer's market. Hey, do they have any apples? Hold on, let me turn on noise canceling. What? Do they have any apples?

Starting point is 00:08:42 Of course they have apples. It's the farmer's market. Here, I'll drop a pin. Come find me. Precision finding now for even better drone targeting yeah and stalking and then they had this whole mother nature skit which you did watch the whole thing oh yeah did you see that thing i didn't see any of it. I avoided it. I knew what the products were. There's nothing new. What's the point? Yeah, they had Octavia Spencer, not a cheap get for this,

Starting point is 00:09:11 played Mother Nature in the most woke thing I've ever seen where Apple is going to get rid of all carbon everywhere. Everything we do, there's no carbon. And, you know, it was... Shark jump, just like the aliens so it's all right there's still a 1200 phone yay it's uh was very very um exactly that's pretty much it blow your nose on it it was just just nuts and um a lot of interesting happens interesting

Starting point is 00:09:50 things happening in the world outside of um you know 10 000 people dying in libya because of uh dams dams breaking 20 yeah dams breaking which means it'll be 30 i mean climate change that's uh here i got a clip here from two dams bust yeah no it's climate change the mayor of a flood ravaged city along the mediterranean sea in libya said today 18 to 20 000 people could be dead in the wake of monday's historic floods drone video shows the widespread damage after two major dams collapsed when 16 inches of rain drenched parts of the region on sunday entire neighborhoods were destroyed leaving tens of thousands without homes yeah now this didn't include the climate change moniker because that did show up pretty much everywhere else but it's dams and when we learn that dams need to be

Starting point is 00:10:43 maintained dams dikes you got to maintain them you know it's it's like they're they're just doing it to get climate change i don't think anyone cares about people anymore their own energy secretary has been your theory for a while yeah my own people are very expendable or as they would say fungible people are fungible. Even though this happened in July, for some reason now, our energy secretary, Granholm, with the saucers on the side of her head, those huge ears she has, and she's been on a road trip, an EV road trip, and she ran into... It's like, I don't know exactly what popped this story or why it happened, but here's the gist of it. All right. Get a load of this one. Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm's electric vehicle road trip. I love new energy secretary. She's been there for a bit. Running into trouble while trying to tout the administration's green push.

Starting point is 00:11:38 Fox Business's Grady Trimble joins us live. So, Grady, this got so bad that they had to call the police. Is that right? That is right, Brian. A staffer apparently tried to hold the only available electric vehicle charger for the energy secretary by parking a gas-powered vehicle in the spot. That is according to NPR. A couple with a baby wanted to use the same charger, so the reporter who was tagging along on the trip says the young family called the cops on the staffer. The staffer wasn't breaking any laws, though, so nothing came of that call to police. But Secretary Granholm's road trip from North Carolina to Tennessee back in June highlights just how difficult it is to find electric vehicle charging stations and to drive evs long distance i think it's actually a planted story and you think no but i mean a planted story because someone is going to come up with some plan some bill has to be passed i think the alien story interrupted it um you know that we need more charging infrastructure. Well, it could have to do with what Biden may be due for. I said in the newsletter, Biden is due, overdue,

Starting point is 00:12:47 for a speech where they jack him up because he hasn't been given the juice for probably a month, maybe longer. And so he's staggering around the world, you know, barely able to talk. And he keeps pushing the idea of, you know, 500,000 charging stations. stations yeah and so maybe it's got something to do with that i do it i did get a clip of somebody put together i i would like to

Starting point is 00:13:13 make this a longer clip and i think i can do it of biden when he is jacked up when they give him the are you are you moving away from climate change all of a sudden? You're hijacking my segment? No, it's a better word for it than hijack it. What was I used to? Usurp? No, I forgot. Clip crash? It was something like that.

Starting point is 00:13:38 I'll get you to Biden in a moment. The most uninteresting man in the world. Not when he's jacked up. I think Queen Ursula is more interesting. Well, back to climate change yes back to climate change we'll get back to i'll swing it i'll swing it to you and the most uninteresting man in the world after we get to the queen i have no clips on climate change i only have two here's queen ursula i'm sorry i should say she did the state of oh that's how i should have transitioned speaking of biden state of the union here's queen say she did the state of... Oh, that's how I should have transitioned. Speaking of Biden's State of the Union, here's Queen Ursula's State of the European Union,

Starting point is 00:14:08 a little clip about climate change. Honorable members, four years ago, the European Green Deal was our answer to the call of history. And this summer, the hottest ever on record in Europe was a stark reminder of that. Greece and Spain were struck by ravaging wildfires. And were hit again only a few weeks later by devastating floods. And we saw the chaos and carnage of extreme weather from Slovenia to Bulgaria and right across our Union,

Starting point is 00:14:46 this is the reality of a boiling planet. Oh, please. The reality... Shh! Don't you dare speak against Queen Ursula. This is the reality. She is more boring than Biden,

Starting point is 00:15:00 I will say. A boiling planet. The European Green Deal was born out of this necessity to protect our planet. But it was also designed as an opportunity to preserve our future prosperity. We started this mandate by setting long-term perspective

Starting point is 00:15:20 with the climate law and the 2050 goals. We shifted the climate agenda to being an economic one. And this has given clear sense of direction for investment and innovation. And we have already seen this growth strategy delivering in the short term. Europe's industry is showing every single day that it is ready to power this transition. It's ready. Proving that modernization and decarbonization can go hand in hand. In the last five years, the number of clean steel factories in the European Union has grown from zero to 38.

Starting point is 00:16:02 We're now attracting more investment in clean hydrogen than the United States and China together. Okay, so this is where I need your expertise, because when she says we went from zero to 38 clean steel factories, clean steel, and then right after that she says we're more advanced with clean hydrogen than America and China put together. I ask you, are they making steel with hydrogen now? I've never heard of such a thing. What is clean steel? Well, I have an answer.

Starting point is 00:16:39 Well, then why are you asking me? To see if you had an answer. Because you've never heard of such a thing. And correct, because it's bull crap. Here's how clean steel is made. You think somehow they've taken hydrogen, I'm sorry, clean hydrogen, and they can make it all hot enough to produce steel. No, no, no.

Starting point is 00:17:00 Producing clean steel begins in the scrapyard. Scrap with limited amounts of certain elements, such as copper, tin, sulfur, and phosphorus, will yield cleaner steels. The alloys used in clean steel production also need tight quality controls regarding the chemistry and residual elements. So they're taking scrap steel

Starting point is 00:17:23 and then melting it into new steel and calling it clean. So this scrap is basically scrap iron recycled. Yes. Recycled. Yes. Recycled scrap iron. Yeah. I don't think I want to go across a bridge that is made of this clean steel.

Starting point is 00:17:44 It should be fine. it should be fine it should be fine it's just like play it up that way we're so we've given up we don't make steel anymore we now we have to this is an excuse and that what what are the 38 facilities are they just scrapyards in their backyards with the smelter i I mean, what's going on here? It's like China in the 40s. Yes, exactly. The great leap forward. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:18:10 People making steel in their yards. It could be. Scrap yards. Scrap metal into clean steel. Yeah, it could be. All right. Here's where we are mistaken. There's so much money in climate change.

Starting point is 00:18:26 We're not mistaken. We've known this all along. Well, we're mistaken by doing this podcast instead of producing. Oh, yeah. We should do a climate change podcast. You're right. Instead of producing wonderful 20-minute videos, of which I'm going to play a minute,

Starting point is 00:18:40 because here's where the big money is, baby. According to the latest IPCC report, we are past the point of no return for 1.5 degrees Celsius and we'll need to make rapid, fundamental changes to our society this decade to stop it going any further than that. Now just remember, you and I could do a much better job producing this video, but wait for it. This will be hard.

Starting point is 00:19:04 There's no way we as a species will be able to achieve this hard path unless we can agree on the facts that underpin it though. Without the broader context of agreed upon data, it will forever be perfectly possible to arrive at a wide range of conclusions and different paths we should take that is why when it comes to any discussion context is so important by looking at the pattern of our planet's history we see that the current uptick in global temperatures is an induced event that doesn't match already existing patterns and it perfectly coincides with human activityate what you want to do with that information and the best path to take in light of it. But these are the facts, set in ice and the bones

Starting point is 00:19:52 of organisms long dead. They will brook no argument. Dealing with all the crises that the world seems to throw at you daily can get a little overwhelming. Sometimes it's important to take care of yourself. That's why today's video is in paid partnership with BetterHelp. Mental health is a cause that is deeply important to me. So BetterHelp paid for

Starting point is 00:20:14 a 20-minute video to scare people and then to say, if you're scared, use BetterHelp because we can help you get over this frightened anxiety

Starting point is 00:20:23 that you have because of climate change. Do you see the mistake we're making? Oh, we've known this forever. But, I mean, this is genius. It's corrupt. We can't bring ourselves to being that corrupt. That's just nothing.

Starting point is 00:20:40 That was just pure corruption. Of course it's corruption. BetterHelp, the number one advertiser last month on podcasts. I'll have you know. No. Yeah. That's a fact? Yes.

Starting point is 00:20:53 Where did that number come from? Sounds profitable. These are numbers. This is from the industry. I pay attention to the podcast industrial complex. I would hope so. But here's the thing. $9 million they spent in one month.

Starting point is 00:21:07 I still don't see how the industry is $2 billion. Okay, maybe it's me. Yeah, Better Health spent $9 million on podcasts. Hey, you know, we could take their ads. Hey, John, are you feeling a little anxious because of all this climate change? I'm a nervous wreck. Maybe we should talk to our better health doctor no we can't pull it off anyway back to joe biden yes i'm looking at this i'm sorry i was looking at some article about walter isaacson where they just because he did the musk bio

Starting point is 00:21:45 yeah i have clips i have clips oh well let's i just had to play read the headline from the intelligencer the journalist and the billionaire what did an old establishment guy like walter isaacson learn writing elon musk's biography and this is a planted story that just promotes the book all planted now when did walter isaacson become an old establishment guy well isn't he the epitome of access journalism like i will write a fanta you'll you'll you'll come off as a as a hardcore dude but everyone will love you beautiful picture on the cover don't worry about it's all good let me embed with you isn't that how it works that is an element do you want to hear the three quick clips i have from um walter isaacson and with savannah guthrie about the biography

Starting point is 00:22:40 absolutely i think it's that's got to be that's got to go right up front okay well he's identified different modes that elon has different modes you know like there's grumpy john happy john there's nutty adam there's uh what other modes do i have i won't mention them. And Elon can turn dark, too, and get very tough on people. Do you see that? We sometimes see him. He has many personalities. Many personalities.

Starting point is 00:23:13 Sometimes you're around a really, you know, half-joking guy or a guy playing you know, engineering mode in which he's really good. Engineering mode! There's times he goes into what Claire Boucher, his occasional girlfriend known as Grimes, calls demon mode. Demon mode. And that's when he gets dark.

Starting point is 00:23:32 Demon mode. What is that? Can you give some examples of what that kind of behavior is? Sometimes. I need some examples. I'm so excited about Elon Musk. I mean, he's doing Grimes. He could do me. It's at dinner or at a meeting or

Starting point is 00:23:46 walking on a factory line. You can see the clouds gathering. I remember, for example, 20, 30 times. I'll give you one, which is in South Texas at the tip of South Texas is Boca Chico. We has a launch pad for Starship and one Friday night at around 10 p.m. He's sort of joking about everything. And then he sees that only two people working at the pad. It's 10 p.m. on a Friday night at around 10 p.m. He's sort of joking about everything. And then he sees that only two people are working at the pad. It's 10 p.m. on a Friday night. But you can see the dark. And he just explodes. And for about an hour, he's berating people.

Starting point is 00:24:15 And then he orders up what he calls a surge. He wants 200 people there by the next day. So they start working. So this tension for drama comes out of the childhood too oh it comes out of his eyes apparently now working for better health it's yes it's from his youth his childhood the demon mode yeah he has another mode it's called manic mode there are occasions in the book where you refer to Musk as being in Manic Mode. I mean, manic, that is a term of art

Starting point is 00:24:48 in mental health. Another Better Help commercial. Are you suggesting, or in any way, do you question whether he struggles with mental illness? Let me ask you a question, John. How come Savannah Guthrie is talking about what she just said?

Starting point is 00:25:04 You know, this is clearly mental health. Does she ever say that about, I don't know, our president? Does she ever talk about it in the book? He talks about, he talks about he's, you know,

Starting point is 00:25:14 hasn't been officially diagnosed. He says, we talked about bipolar. He takes a lot of prescription medicines at times. What? Wait, stop. What?

Starting point is 00:25:24 What? Hard stop. Hard stop. What? Wait, stop. What? What? Hard stop. Hard stop. He hasn't been diagnosed. But he takes a lot of prescription medicine. How is it possible? How is that possible? You got to wonder.

Starting point is 00:25:36 You got to wonder. Maybe he hasn't. He's never been diagnosed, but he's got a lot of prescriptions that he takes. That's right. That's right. By the way, manic mode is a term of art. Icriptions that he takes. That's right. That's right. It's, by the way, manic mode is a term of art. I heard that too. I didn't want to stop there.

Starting point is 00:25:50 Term of art. But it hasn't been officially died. Hold on a second. Yeah, please. When did Isaacson have time to do this book? He was roaming around with the guy. The guy still at the Aspen Institute. He's in all these meetings. He's like a spook. I mean, where is this? Where's the time

Starting point is 00:26:06 for this? He had an outline. Here's the outline. And wait. Before you do that. Okay. I don't know if you remember it, but I sure do. And I don't know if we got a clip of it, but he was on some talk show about a year ago saying he

Starting point is 00:26:20 lost his editor at I forgot who he's working with Simon & Schuster, Doubleday, one of them. Some editor he worked with all the time. That was his go-to editor which was the go-between editor

Starting point is 00:26:35 I'm guessing with whoever's doing a lot of this research. And he's retiring. He's not going to write any more books. It's what he said. Is this write do any more books it's what he said is this from 2017 maybe could it be that long ago uh it could be why did florence flirt no that was his book on leonardo da vinci um no i don't i don't know what yeah i don't know if i could find but he did say this that he once the editor was gone that was the end of him uh and i just made the assumption that that was you know that some

Starting point is 00:27:11 mechanism that was in place that allowed him to do these big books somehow uh was now missing because of the editor i don't and now there's another book. I'd like to know what happened. Oh, wait. Let me guess. Savannah asks a pertinent question along these lines. He hasn't been officially diagnosed, he said. Is Elon available to me? He talks about bipolar. He takes a lot of prescription medicines at times.

Starting point is 00:27:42 He can be variable in his moods and sometimes as a Jekyll and Hyde quality where he will go into a dark, depressed mood and say some things, sometimes things that his father said to him. And then a few hours later, you ask him about it, and he's like,

Starting point is 00:27:59 he almost has no memory. He has no memory of it. Things his father said to him, and then he has no memory of it because he's taking ketamine. It's like the Joe Biden and his dad stories. When all of a sudden all these guys tell what their father said, I'm going to have to start doing that on the podcast. No. You know, I don't think you've ever talked about your dad.

Starting point is 00:28:21 No, I never. You know, I can't think of anything he told me that would be pertinent to the show or anything else for that matter wow hey get up get up it's late you gotta go to school i remember my dad telling me to get up or the famous the dad putting the what the way to get kids up a wet cold washcloth on the face. That'll get you up. Wow. No wonder. That's child abuse, isn't it? Can I write your book?

Starting point is 00:28:50 Can I embed with you and write your book? John has... Yeah, I want that editor. You know, for better or for worse, Elon Musk is incredibly influential, and maybe influential isn't even the word, incredibly powerful. Some people say he's more powerful than any government,

Starting point is 00:29:03 including the U.S. government. Whoa! He's more... Oh, What was the point of dropping that little gem in there? That's bull crap. She wants a date with him. We've seen in Ukraine with the flick of a switch, he can turn off the satellite communication and effect a war.

Starting point is 00:29:17 Not exactly what happened, Savannah. Oh, that's a lie. Well, she only read the New York Times. The only reason, SpaceX read the New York Times. The only reason, SpaceX is the only way US astronauts get to space anymore. He's transforming the electric car industry. That's a lie.

Starting point is 00:29:33 That's a blatant lie. I think you've noticed that the media, the M5M, is building a profile of Musk. Part of it is to promote this book, obviously. Part of it is because they are horny for billionaires. There's something about money that attracts a person like Savannah Guthrie, a tech billionaire. It's attractive to her. You can hear it in everything she's saying. She's jitty for him. It's part of that, but i think it's also building up to something there's

Starting point is 00:30:07 something up and they're building up to it his chargers have a lot to do with whether or not we make this transition to a ah there you go that may be it john that may be the reason climate change well no the chargers that may be the planted story for granholm from june that all of a sudden oh there's not enough charges yeah i'm guessing it could be yeah yeah anymore he's transforming the electric car industry his chargers have a lot to do with whether or not we make this transition to electric energy and now on the eve of a presidential election controlling twitter a major source of information rhetoric rhetoric, and potentially misinformation. That's what it is.

Starting point is 00:30:48 Misinformation on Twitter. Yeah, because he controls it. Knowing what you know about him. Are you comfortable that this singular man has that kind of influence over our world? This is because Kara Swisher, who used to love Elon, hates him so much. She reruns old interviews during you know Labor Day just so good this this is the old Elon this is what he used to be like now he's just the horrible person Jekyll and Hyde is the hatred toward Elon by the press is all particular all because of Twitter and he hasn't done anything at twitter except fire a

Starting point is 00:31:26 bunch of you know middle managers he hasn't changed anything over there when i don't see my numbers changing any which way i see a lot of other people that are more left less on the right they don't see anything changing and i ran into a number of threads the other day that were so left-leaning. And in fact, it was like the socialist Democrats have so many people on there that they're loading up with anti-American memes and everything in between. It's like this is unfounded, this hatred. You know, one of our producers, a lawyer in Texas, sent me the Fifth Circuit opinion about how the Biden administration coerced and threatened social media,

Starting point is 00:32:17 which is exactly what the Twitter files were about. Not that this is going to be resolved anytime, but he did highlight a few things for me, which I think are, this is from the Fifth Circuit. This is the Missouri case you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is the Fifth Circuit, Louisiana.

Starting point is 00:32:34 Missouri versus Biden, I think is the name of the case. The Fifth Circuit on Friday largely upheld a Louisiana federal judge's order blocking White House staffers and some federal agencies from working with social media companies to combat disinformation, holding that some federal officials likely, quote, coerced social media platforms into censoring certain content in violation of the First Amendment. Specifically, it said the White House, the White House, working with the Office of the Surgeon General,

Starting point is 00:33:05 White House, the White House, working with the Office of the Surgeon General, coerced the platforms to make their moderation decisions by way of intimidating messages and threats of adverse consequences. The White House and Surgeon General also significantly encouraged the platform's decisions by commandeering their decision-making process. The FBI and CDC appear to have engaged in similar conduct. We do not take our decision lightly, but the U.S. Supreme Court has rarely been faced with a coordinated campaign of this magnitude, orchestrated by federal officials that jeopardized a functional aspect of American life. Therefore, the district court was correct in its assessment. But more importantly, officials expressed an implicitly threatened to retaliate if the companies didn't take action.

Starting point is 00:33:51 And that alone should be enough to find coercion. They made express threats, inflammatory accusations, such as saying the platforms were poisoning the public and killing people. We know the poisoning part's true uh yeah right uh so uh the judge signed off on the injunction a rare and lengthy order issued on the 4th of july a federal holiday in particular the judge said the federal government's attempt to suppress alleged different disinformation particularly about the pandemic and here it is arguably involves the most massive attack on free speech in United States history. This will go to the Supreme Court. It'll get kicked back.

Starting point is 00:34:36 It'll go on for years. Ivermectin. It's just good to hear. Obviously, this is not something that Savannah Guthrie will discuss. No, no, but it's your, to hear you know obviously this is not something that savannah guthrie will discuss no no but it's your but you know it's like disinformation they don't have the back door anymore they're no longer being promoted being um uh boosted on the platform they all left in a huff i'm going to mass done it sucks and then then on Macedon, they couldn't quote tweet. It sucks.

Starting point is 00:35:06 And they went to, what's the other thing? Blue, blue, blue, blue bird, blue. Come on, what's that other thing called? The new Twitter, Drupal. X? No, no, that's the other Dorsey thing. Blue Sky. I'm going to Blue Sky.

Starting point is 00:35:24 Did I send you an invite to Blue Sky? I'm going to Blue Sky. Have you, did I send you an invite to Blue Sky? You've got to say. No, you didn't. I feel, I feel slighted. It's the trans Maoist social network. It's amazing. Oh God,

Starting point is 00:35:34 I can imagine. It's amazing. So, and then Threads, I'm going to be on Threads. This is the place to be. It's so much better than X. So,

Starting point is 00:35:44 social media is broken. And it's called Blue Sky? Blue Sky, yeah. I thought they went to going to Gab, or whatever happened to Gab. Hello, 2010. Comfortable. Poor Gab.

Starting point is 00:35:56 Singular man. What was the other one? There was another one. There was another one besides Gab that was a big thing. Getter? Getter? Getter.

Starting point is 00:36:02 That's one of them. Getter. And what else was there? Getter. There's a couple other ones Getter. Getter. Getter. That's one of them. Getter. And what else was there? Getter. There's a couple other ones. CompuServe. Prodigy. Orcut.

Starting point is 00:36:13 Yeah. Play misinformation. No. Parlor. That's the one. Parlor. Parlay. That's what I call it.

Starting point is 00:36:20 Truth social. This is the thing. It's broken. i call it true social it's this is the thing it's broken that she's the the m5m prostitutes know that ultimately social media is broken elon is is he doesn't care he's still now it's community notes and suppressing him you know yaccarino his ceo is like you can have freedom of speech but not freedom of reach yeah it's another word for shadow banning okay we got it and i get i get no traction on my tweet if someone doesn't retweet one of my tweets it goes nowhere with my course not with my 90 000 non-blue check followers so that's just what it is the whole

Starting point is 00:36:59 thing there's nothing has changed it's still a the same piece of crap that it always was yeah but they don't have their people in the... Yeah, they don't have their people getting boosted left and right. In the trust and safety team. I don't even want to get into it. Well, then let's just continue with Savannah. Keep playing. Your source of information, rhetoric, and potentially misinformation.

Starting point is 00:37:20 Knowing what you know about him. Are you comfortable that this singular man has that kind of influence over our world? Are you comfortable? I think it's not great that he has so much power. And you take the Starlink episode in Ukraine, where he had actually geo-fenced off the Crimea so they couldn't do it. He had done it before that night. so they couldn't do it. He had done it before that night. And now he's creating Star Shield and selling it to the U.S. military because he talked to U.S. government officials. He realizes, why am I in the middle of this war? It should be something government officials do. So he sold Starlink to the U.S. government so that the government can control how it's done. Exactly. He's a government shill.

Starting point is 00:38:05 It's always the same with him. All of his money is from government. He's made his Tesla money by banking on the financing and the kickbacks, what do they call it when you buy a car, you get a tax credit

Starting point is 00:38:22 for buying electric. Yes, tax credit. There's one thing after another it's all rebate the rebate so rebate government money it's government money when he had solar city it was government money yes it's and he could barely make that work he almost went broke with solar city he had to fold it into tesla uh yeah but you know it's spacex is it's all uh government money it's all government money and uh i was going you know we should probably move right into this because elon was uh a part of uh you know the well the titans elon musk bill gates and mark zuckerberg were together

Starting point is 00:39:02 today in one room to discuss the future of artificial intelligence, both the dangers and the benefits. CBS's Jolene Kent reports lawmakers are struggling to keep up with the technology. Oh, because it's a series of tubes that's complicated. Today, a rare show of force by tech tycoons on Capitol Hill, tackling the growing threat of artificial intelligence to American jobs, safety, and according to Elon Musk, our very existence. I think this meeting may go down in history as being very important for the future of civilization. Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, and other top CEOs met behind closed doors with a bipartisan group of senators, facing the reality that if no action is taken, AI is expected to eliminate or

Starting point is 00:39:46 disrupt 300 million jobs worldwide. Musk, the richest man in the world, says he told senators he's in favor of having a specific regulator for AI. It's important for us to have a referee, but I think the consequences of AI going wrong are severe. So we have to be proactive rather than reactive. Congress is sufficiently ready to regulate AI? No, the sequence of events will not be jumping in at the deep end and making rules. Another top priority today was managing AI's rapid development. Can Americans trust OpenAI to make AI safe? I think trust but verify. I think it's really important that the government does put sensible policy in place. Trust but verify.

Starting point is 00:40:33 Along with that safety, senators tell me another major focus was the race against China. They want U.S. tech companies to set the global standards before China does. But lawmakers also want the tech companies to develop their AI responsibly. I'm telling you that Elon Musk is going to build something. He's going to sell it to the government. That'll be the regulator or be the approved AI. This is all, and it's all bull, bull, bull. Well, a couple of things.

Starting point is 00:41:04 One, why, I. Well, a couple of things. One, why? I have three clips on this. There's tech meeting on AI. These are from a new Tang dynasty, so there's probably more objective. But the thing is, why was every quote from Elon Musk? And the reason I ask that is because everybody was there. It wasn't the way they like to say it. It was, oh, it's Gates, Musk, and Zuckerberg.

Starting point is 00:41:30 I can answer that question. Let me play a little bit of this TRT clip, and it tells you why. America's technology titans were summoned to a forum with U.S. lawmakers in Washington to discuss how to make AI safe. At the meeting, from which the media were excluded, the participants reached a... It was a no-media meeting, so Musk was the only one who talked to the press. All the other guys were way too important. That's why. That's why.

Starting point is 00:42:10 Well, I'm back to the thesis because Pichar was there. Gates? Well, no, they already, they said, they made a point of saying Zuckerberg, Gates, and Musk, but everybody was there. There was the guy, the Google guy was there. The head of Apple was there. Everybody was there. The head of Apple was there. Everybody was there. And any one of them could have been gone outside and talked to the press. But they just glom onto Musk. Musk is like the guy.

Starting point is 00:42:35 And I think is and Musk throws himself into it. I think he seeks it. He reminds me of Adam Osborne during the heyday of Osborne computers. Take us back. Osborne once said to his staff that if anyone from the media calls me, I'm taking the call. Right. Stop everything. He was so into being the front guy.

Starting point is 00:42:59 He'd rush out there to be interviewed. This is when Musk is to be interviewed. Yes. This is when Musk is, Musk is doing this himself. Yes, he started the whole, the whole anger thing. It came from him. He's the genesis. When he got kicked out of his own organization,

Starting point is 00:43:18 OpenAI, he's like, this is dangerous. We need to have Congress. We got to have rules. We got to have a referee. We need to trust but verify. Musk is wagging the dog. So let's play tech meeting on AI1. This is a little more elaborate. An unprecedented meeting on Capitol Hill today as tech tycoons like Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg huddle with senators.

Starting point is 00:43:41 Huddled. NTD's Iris Tao joins us live from Washington, D.C. Good evening, Iris. What did lawmakers tell us about this closed-door meeting? Good evening to you. So today's meeting lasted a whole day behind closed doors, and senators, including leading senators like Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, came out to talk to us right after it ended, saying that they talked about a variety of issues, including how to increase transparency in the AI industry and how to mitigate risk associated with some AI techniques, such as deep fake and what's known as watermarking, and how such techniques could be used to influence things like elections. This is why Elon's talking, because Elon runs elections.

Starting point is 00:44:23 Don't you know that? He's the most important and most powerful man in the world. I just cut it off at that spot because she's just throwing terms out there and whatever Schumer. Schumer doesn't, none of these congressmen have a clue. They don't know what an algorithm is. They barely can turn on a computer. Their secretaries do it. If I may, when it comes to technology reporting,

Starting point is 00:44:47 technology reporting the day you walked out of the Twitch studio for the last time. There's some truth to that. Yes. So she says watermarking. Watermarking, okay. Watermarking, that's going to influence elections.

Starting point is 00:45:06 Yes, that's right. Wait wait that would be quantum watermarks oh yeah yeah with a quantum dot that's the way that's right and that way you can keep track of the ballots yeah from space oh here we go and schumer also told us that today the main theme is really how to through taking bipartisan actions on regulating ai how to ensure that american public can enjoy the benefits with associated with ai but also associated with this fast evolving technology but the benefits oh i can create a drake song of course today's meeting was so significant because it really drew together all the biggest names in this industry, including Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, as well as Bill Gates. And today, Elon Musk in particular told the public that today's meeting was historic. He also warned about dangers of AI. Watch.

Starting point is 00:45:59 I think the consequences of AI going wrong are severe. So we have to be proactive rather than reactive but there's some chance that above zero that ai will feel as well i think it's low but there's some chance oh okay it's so bad and you know we should start our own mental health app because the the the ladies and and some gentlemen of hill country mega country are so spun up over the idea that ai is already today built oh man you're mass bumping like crazy is i didn't bump to this time okay i'm gonna tell you what happens exactly since you keep bringing it up. Because it sounds like this during the whole show! No. Yes, yes. And so I put my coffee cup down, and then when I withdrew my arm,

Starting point is 00:46:55 I have this long thing, and I banged into the whole structure of the microphone. Okay, then you're forgiven. of the microphone okay then you're you're forgiven so the ladies and gentlemen of maga nation are so terrified of ai they have been spun up to actually believe that ai that they're already ai twins of each individual in the world and these oh yeah and there's even a documentary where did that one come from there's some documentary coming out that i have to say i think it's related to lara logan she's very good at spinning people up she's also a good journalist but the whole idea is i like the idea of ai twins ai twins and they already exist again to do this show well that's, that's it. And then eventually we'll just be their battery.

Starting point is 00:47:47 You know, that's how it all ends. It's like, you know, the computer's going to take over. And you hear Musk, well, there's a better than zero chance that AI will destroy the world. Come on. It will kill us all. Come on, Musk. Yeah, I'd like to know how that works. I mean, AI is more powerful than climate change.

Starting point is 00:48:09 Okay. Well, that's the question to ask him. That's what these people should do when they got him because he's out there answering questions. Do you think that we're going to get killed by climate change or AI first? Yeah, who's going to win? Who's the first to the line? Who's going to be the killer? Who's going to be the killer?

Starting point is 00:48:25 Who's going to kill us the most? So several senators... Or the Chinese. You want to... Yeah, well, the Chinese, clearly, because, you know, there's that whole element. I think there's an element the other guys are coming in saying, well, you know, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, China, Warren, who told me that she did not understand why today's meeting was held behind closed doors.

Starting point is 00:49:06 But still, senators, including Chuck Schumer, told me that they think today's meeting was very productive and that it could help the U.S. in its competition with China. Watch. And the fact that we can bring everybody together and come with legislation that would move things forward on both sides will help us significantly. There's not a world in which China can put their brain together. Like the government in China is trying very hard on AI. But the leadership in AI is in the United States of America. I couldn't understand anything at the end there. What was that?

Starting point is 00:49:38 What were they saying? That's where I cut it off. It kept going. A couple of things. Warren is right. Why was this a private closed-door meeting? Because they were divvying something up. That's exactly right.

Starting point is 00:49:56 There's some scam going on, some money-making scam, and they didn't want the public to know about it. This wasn't about ai as much as it was exactly what you said divvying up something yep um there's no reason for this to be a closed hearing it's not public it's not national security there's nothing about it this that says it should be a closed hearing elizabeth nailed it. Let's listen to this TRT report that may find a couple more interesting little tidbits in it. America's technology titans were summoned to a forum

Starting point is 00:50:32 with US lawmakers in Washington to discuss how to make AI safe. We need something like that. Technology titans. How to make it profitable. Technology titans. We need like podcast plebs. Technology titans. Podcast titans. How to make it profitable. Technology titans. We need like podcast plebs. Technology titans.

Starting point is 00:50:48 Podcast titans. What? Podcast titans. No, it has to be something with a P. It has to be alliteration. That's why I said podcast plebs. Podcast putzes. Podcast putzes.

Starting point is 00:51:00 ...meeting from which the media were excluded. The participants reached a unanimous agreement that the development of artificial intelligence must be regulated. I asked everyone in the room, is government needed to play a role in regulating AI? And every single person raised their hands. This is very interesting what Schumer says. He says, as everyone in the room, this government needed, and everyone's hand was raised. Does that mean they all said...

Starting point is 00:51:30 That'll be the day. But does it mean they all said yes, or did they just raise their hands? He didn't say they all agreed. He says they all... When they're talking about... You know what came to mind? I've been listening to that clip.

Starting point is 00:51:43 They want government regulation yeah of course they do so they can yeah tick tock this is about tick tock somehow is does is government needed to play a role in regulating ai and every single person raised their hands even though they had diverse views so they so they weren't all agreement, but they all raised their hands. Thanks, Chuck. So that gives us a message here that we have to try to act. Yeah, that you're full of shit. As difficult as the process may be.

Starting point is 00:52:12 Oh, no. Regulations are on the table. This is Dick Durbin. And I believe they are reality in this field. It's a brand new field, and I think it needs some guidance. Elon Musk described the meeting as historic and important for the future of civilization now the reason that i've been such an advocate for this podcast is in fact important for the future of civilization

Starting point is 00:52:37 not just ai but this podcast and important for the future of civilization. Now, the reason that I've been such an advocate for AI safety in advance of sort of anything terrible happening is that I think the consequences of AI going wrong are severe. So we have to be proactive rather than reactive. The politicians now have to decide what regulation will mean in practice. But it's all very well lawmakers here agreeing that AI needs to be regulated. The problem is that other countries, most notably China, are unlikely to fall into step with decisions made by the US Congress. And there are fears that that could mean US tech companies losing their competitive advantage without the world being made any safer.

Starting point is 00:53:26 So I think that they threw in this China thing because obviously China's going to get state money, government money, and they're like, oh, we'll call it regulation, but we need money. We need lots of money because it's very expensive. We've got to buy all these chips from NVIDIA. We need money. We need money. We need money.

Starting point is 00:53:46 And China, China, China, China. You don't want to be behind China, do you? No, we need some money. Come to the secret meeting. We're all going to tell you how much you're going to get and we'll call it regulation. And here is my question to you. If AI is going to,

Starting point is 00:54:00 if there's a larger than zero chance that AI will destroy the world, if this field is so new and is so dangerous that we need referees, we need government agencies, we need regulation. They can't even define it, but continue. Explain to me why this is okay, CNBC. The IRS has used its billions in new congressional funding in an interesting way. They have a battery of new AI tools and they are launching a new crackdown on the wealthiest tax invaders. OK, so what you're saying is AI is very, very dangerous.

Starting point is 00:54:36 Unleash it on the American people. Robert Frank is here to discuss those details. Yeah, so the new IRS commissioner, his goal here was first, let's use all this money to help the service part of our business, help people who want help paying their taxes, understanding what they need to do. Now we're at phase two, which is go after the wealthy tax cheats. And what they're doing is putting a lot of that money,

Starting point is 00:54:57 number one, to enforcers. They're going to hire tens of thousands of auditors and enforcers. But number two is develop AI machine learning to figure out what patterns they can find in tax returns, especially for these large partnerships that can help them identify where people are hiding their income. And that's where an agency not known for its technological prowess is going to really make a step change. And I think this is a part where AI really can do some good

Starting point is 00:55:25 because AI is great at these massive data questions and huge computing power. And applying that to finding the areas where humans didn't really see the patterns before, but AI can. We just had a little column out there that said it was going to target 1,500 millionaires with tax, I think it was tax debt of $250 million.

Starting point is 00:55:46 That's right. So one of the parts of this is they're going after 1,600 people who have a million or more in income who have recognized tax debt. In other words, we know. Known. Known and acknowledged by the taxpayer that they owe at least $250,000. What? $250,000, excuse me. $250,000, and this could raise hundreds of millions of dollars if they return all that.

Starting point is 00:56:06 You know, you and I just do the math. How can they get away with this already? The IRS just didn't have the staff to go after them legally and get this money back. I think, I think they, I think someone misreported. I think they made 250 million, but I think the truth came out here. No, no. You have more than 250,000 in tax debt, which I think a lot of people have that. More than $1,000. Well, with the tax rate being 40%, about 40% with the Biden tax rate, $250,000, you'd have,

Starting point is 00:56:39 that would be, that's less than a million in income. Yeah. I think the truth was coming out there. Let's say $750,000 in income people make. They're going to go after everybody. And they would have a tax liability around that. And so that's not even the rich people.

Starting point is 00:56:55 They're going after small business. Small business. Yeah, small business. That's exactly what they do. They got to get rid of, that's what the whole idea is. You know, AI, we need regulation. AI is going to do it. We need regulation.

Starting point is 00:57:06 But unleash this monster on the American people. You can't have it both ways. Meanwhile, in San Francisco, the people are very happy with AI. This is a San Francisco civilian taking a pickaxe to a cruise taxi. Smashing everything on this car. Is the taxi honking at him? Yeah, the taxi is honking. And smashing the windshield, smashing the spinning things on top, the flur, whatever

Starting point is 00:57:39 it is. Lidar. Lidar. Smashing the thing to bits. That's the proper reaction to this and i think he should have stolen the lidar but okay but that is the proper response to this and he won't get caught because of san francisco if he gets caught then just let him go yeah go smash another one but i mean this this is so stop with the, they've got digital twins. No, they're coming after you.

Starting point is 00:58:05 Digital twins. They're coming after you for taxes, you tax invader. That's what she said. She actually called it a tax invader at the beginning. Dummy, dummy. Yeah, so I don't know. None of it sounds happy days to me. All right.

Starting point is 00:58:26 Well, we got some funnier stuff. We do. We got funnier stuff. First of all, let's start with the Dick Cheney anti-Trump Biden commercial. I think this is old. I'm just going to have to say it right off the bat. I think this is old. I think it's old, too. it right off the bat. I think this is old. I think it's old too. I just found it though.

Starting point is 00:58:47 Have you seen it before? Have we played it? Yeah, this goes back to let me see. Okay, then it's scrap death. Scrap it because I don't want to play anything old. Because that goes back to when his daughter was on the J6 commission. That's when that came out.

Starting point is 00:59:03 Okay, then get rid of it um go straight to biden go straight to the go straight to the punchline i only have one biden clip i want to save it now okay all right all right let's go to some a story that i think is a little more pertinent and something that's kind of not being played up it's definitely savannah guthrie's not talking about it the situation of the libraries in canada no it. The situation of the libraries in Canada. Oh, this is new to me. The libraries in Canada. What's happening?

Starting point is 00:59:29 Check it out. Some school libraries just outside Toronto have half empty shelves. Thousands of books, their status in limbo. It could be headed to the landfall. It's all part of a weeding out process. The Peel District School Board is going through. And Angelina King reports this morning on how the process has led to inconsistency

Starting point is 00:59:51 and concern from students and parents. Harry Potter, The Very Hungry Caterpillar, The Diary of Anne Frank, those are all some of the books we've been told have been removed from some school libraries as part of this weeding process. Of course, all very different books, which speaks to the confusion and inconsistency parents and students are telling us that they're concerned about. So first, I'll give you just a little bit

Starting point is 01:00:16 of background on how all of this is supposed to work. Like most libraries in Canada, the school libraries within the Peel District School Board are to weed out books that are damaged, outdated, or irrelevant. But at Peel schools, there's a little bit more to it. Librarians and others have to read the books and ensure that they are inclusive and also ensure that they don't reinforce racist content or include stereotypes. If they do, they have to go. Okay. Hello, Mark Tw go. Oh, okay. Hello, Mark Twain. Goodbye.

Starting point is 01:00:49 Yeah. All right. Hello to killing mockingbird. All right. So they're taking, and it turns out they're taking everything printed or published before 2008. And out it goes. First thing to go in 1984, Brave New World.

Starting point is 01:01:04 Get it out of here. Those books are gone. Yeah, Brave New World. Get it out of here. Oh, yeah, those books are gone. Yeah, out of here, out of here. Yeah, so the books now, and this is a big deal, and the Canadians are a little bent out of shape about it, but they haven't done anything about it yet. Let's go to part two. Now, I spoke with some who are concerned

Starting point is 01:01:19 about how all of that is being handled, including some students as well as a group that's against the process. I'm not comfortable giving anyone the power to be the arbiter on a huge basis of what's right and wrong from a library's perspective about the totality of ideas that are available. And someone who's of Japanese descent, I think that people's authors who wrote about Japanese internment camps are going to be erased, and the entire events that went on historically for Japanese Canadians are going to be removed. And to me, that worries me a lot.

Starting point is 01:01:56 So staff are supposed to focus on books that were published in 2008 or prior, but that seems to have led to some confusion and half-empty shelves at some schools, like the one you're looking at in Mississauga. Now, we've been told that it appears some schools have simply removed nearly all of the books in the library published in 2008 or prior.

Starting point is 01:02:18 What was 2008? What was it about 2008? I'm trying to find a reason for the 2008 cutoff point. I mean, Obama in America. It's not when Trudeau first got in office, I don't think. Obama in America, but that doesn't make any sense. What happened?

Starting point is 01:02:35 So there's got to be some rationale. Maybe some Canadian out there listening will tell us why, of all the years, why 2008? Which people have a big concern about. There also seems to be confusion about where these books are supposed to go. Many have actually wound up in the landfill because staff believe that's what they were supposed to do with the books. And when we asked the school board about that, it says that staff have been told to follow regional recycling guidelines. I spoke with the school board chair. He believes this process rolled out incorrectly. It says that staff have been told to follow regional recycling guidelines. I spoke with the school board chair. He believes this process rolled out incorrectly.

Starting point is 01:03:09 He says trustees now have implemented changes to ensure transparency and accountability. So now staff are supposed to track which books are removed and why. Oh, this is great. I mean, this mirrors the United States, of course. But let's let's get any set up to the third clip in this series. No, let's go for it. We want to make sure that as we move forward as a board, not only that all students are feeling included, we want to make sure that the books are any materials that are in the school and in our library are relevant to today's teaching. in the school and in our library are relevant to today's teaching.

Starting point is 01:03:46 We asked the board several questions, like how many books are expected to be removed, how many are in landfills, and how much it'll cost to replace them. But the board didn't answer those questions, instead saying it's working to ensure the books are culturally responsive, inclusive, and diverse. Oh, my goodness. Is that 2008 2008 is that when white privilege was published i mean there's got to be some reason people yeah everything before 2008 is no good um well i can

Starting point is 01:04:15 tell you this is unbelievable this story by the way is outrageous and the canadians going oh well i don't know what to do about it uh it's out of control this is ridiculous you can't do what they're doing and it's almost like it's just the opposite of what they're trying to do in florida which is getting profane books out of the school libraries not not mark twain ah welcome to now it's time for our transposed agenda update self-destruct initiated It's very similar, actually. You know, it's just a reverse world. Canada is throwing stuff out they deem no good. And in the United States, they just put stuff in that, oh, this is good for kids.

Starting point is 01:04:57 We need to have it. Oh, yeah, this is good for kids. And boy, was there an interesting hearing up on Capitol Hill. The debate over banning books got contentious on Capitol Hill yesterday. To all the parents out there who believe there's a bunch of stuff in our schools being pushed on your children that go over the line, you're absolutely right. Thanks, Wendy. Authoritarian regimes ban books, not democracies. Illinois Secretary of State testified before a Senate committee

Starting point is 01:05:25 to promote an Illinois law that prevents banning books. Our libraries have become targets by a movement that disingenuously claims to pursue freedom. Some Republican-led states have restricted certain books where kids have access to them. Most of the books include stories about racism, sexuality, or gender identity. Florida removed nearly 400 titles last year. The hearing turned racy at one point, as Louisiana Senator John Kennedy read explicit scenes from two of the banned books. The words you spoke are disturbing, especially coming out of your mouth. It's very disturbing. We are advocating for parents, random parents, not to have the ability under the guise of keeping kids safe to try and challenge the worldview of every single manner on these issues. You're getting conceptual game.

Starting point is 01:06:14 I'm not getting conceptual. Democrats and Republicans did agree some books are inappropriate for children. But they were unable to agree on who has the responsibility to censor the books, parents or the state. They should be removing these. Shame on them if they don't. And shame on those who want to groom children sexually. No one is advocating for sexually explicit content to be available in an elementary school library. But no parent should have the right to tell another parent's child what they can and cannot read in school or at home.

Starting point is 01:06:45 Okay, so just the fact that we're talking about books and libraries means we are living in a dystopian world. No matter what side you're on. It's all dystopian. It's all crazy. What? What? I thought you would, I didn't get it. I thought you'd clip it for sure.

Starting point is 01:07:02 Which was Kennedy's reading from the books. I have both of those clips and I'm not going to play them. I'm leaving them in the show notes because I know. It's too much. It is too much. But Kennedy reads from the books. They're disgusting.

Starting point is 01:07:20 I have more clips here. Let me play because the core question is, when it comes to school libraries, there's a difference. They're just saying, libraries, they're burning books. It's horrible. They're Nazis. Wow. They're really...

Starting point is 01:07:34 Take a deep breath. Well, Canada is the example of where this is really headed. I'm in agreement with you, but they had this representative of the LGBTQ plus I two spirit librarians mix named Mix Cameron. Oh, another mix. You know, mix is a popular name amongst the two spirits. Very popular name. And we'll get to mix in a moment.

Starting point is 01:08:00 And I'm skipping the quotes from all boys Aren't Blue and the Gender Queer books. I put the links, the clips are in the show notes. You can listen to it. It's all meant for shock value and none of it's good. But there was some actual stuff that was discussed that is worth listening to.

Starting point is 01:08:20 Mr. Secretary, what are you asking us to do? There you go. Are you suggesting that only librarians should decide whether the two books that I just referenced should be available to kids? Is that what you're saying? No. Okay. Tell me what you're saying.

Starting point is 01:08:48 Well, first of all, there's this... Don't give me a speech. Tell me what you're asking me to do. With all due respect, Senator, the words you spoke are disturbing, especially coming out of your mouth. It's very disturbing. But I would also tell you that... Why is it especially coming out of your mouth, Mr. Kennedy? Why is it especially disturbing coming out of his mouth? Oh, that's a good catch.

Starting point is 01:09:07 I don't understand. Why especially? Yeah, why especially? Because he said blowjob. I mean, why especially? We're not advocating for kids to read porn, to Senator Booker's point. What are you advocating for? We are advocating for parents, random parents, not to have the ability under the guise of keeping kids safe.

Starting point is 01:09:27 Random parents. To try and challenge. What kind of parent is a random parent? What is this? Random parents. The world view of every single manner on these issues. You're getting conceptual again. I'm not getting conceptual.

Starting point is 01:09:41 Yes, you are. Yes, you are. Because I want to know what you're recommending. It sounds to me like what some of you are saying, the librarians should decide who gets to see that book. I'm saying when individual parents are allowed to make a decision of where that line is and to kill a mockingbird, which involves a rape scene, should that book be pulled from our libraries? I think it becomes a a slippery slope i think you ought to think about it a little bit more before you come here i've thought about if you're going to propose something you ought to be able

Starting point is 01:10:12 in 30 seconds to be able to explain what you're asking us to do so needless to say alexi had nothing so now we go to mix mix mix had a bow tie and it was a mix of What was the apparent gender If you were to guess Well Mix looked like a dude With dude hair And a bow tie And a pink jacket Like salmon color really

Starting point is 01:10:38 And some kind of two spirit Sounds styling Let me skip you for a second Mr Um Sounds styling. No, it's definitely styling. Let me skip you for a second. Mr. Cameron, tell me what you're proposing. It's pronounced mix. Mix? How would you like me to refer to you?

Starting point is 01:10:59 Senator, your definition of sexual is synonymous with LGBTQ identity. I'm not asking you that. I'm asking you to tell me you read those two excerpts. Genderqueer. Do you think that, are you asking that only librarians and not parents have any say in whether minors can read those books? Is that what you're saying? Genderqueer has never been in my school library, so it's never been banned. Well, suppose it was.

Starting point is 01:11:23 Should it be up just to the librarian, or should parents have a say? There should be facilitation of collaboration between students and educators. Parents should be working with students and educators to be making decisions, because students are... And who decides ultimately, the librarian, or do you take a vote vote or who takes the vote? Book review committees in the community in my school district. You want a committee to decide? There are committees. Okay. Well, I'm asking you, how do we decide whether the two books that I just referenced should be available in the library?

Starting point is 01:12:03 What would you, if you were running library what what would you if you were if you were running things what would you do all boys aren't blue the scene you mentioned is about sexual abuse i know what it's about it's not what would you do in terms of making the books available would you say anybody can see them or they have to be in a special session students who do not read books like all boys aren't blue cannot learn what is appropriate. I understand that. They cannot learn a lot of this. I understand, but none of you want to answer my question.

Starting point is 01:12:31 You come here and you say censorship is bad. And of course it's bad. But the obvious response is, okay, you heard the books we're talking about. Okay, we're not talking about Catcher in the Rye. So tell me who gets to decide and all i've heard is the librarians and parents have nothing to do with it and if that's your response what planet did you just parachute in from parents senator or what country more appropriately this is not china no canada it's canada that's where he's coming from. Canada. We'll wrap

Starting point is 01:13:06 it up with this one. Parents, parents absolutely have a say. My parents were immigrants, came to this country. We never checked out books without our parents seeing what books we were reading. They encouraged us to read books. Mr. Secretary, I understand this is good for your politics back home. It's got nothing to do with my politics. My bill is passed.

Starting point is 01:13:22 It has everything to do with your politics. But you came here with a problem and I'm trying to understand the solution and you don't have one. We solved the solution. Other than to tell us that we don't agree with you, we'll be on the wrong side of history. We solved the problem in Illinois. We fixed it.

Starting point is 01:13:39 Because we... Well, there are others you could work on. I'm out of time. How about this? Government should have no'm out of time. How about this? Government should have no say in the matter. How about that? How about the Department of Education shouldn't be around, even exist? This is all, all, we're going nuts.

Starting point is 01:13:59 We're taking it too far. Good stuff. But I didn't know that it had spread to Canada. That's pretty... Canada's taking a complete opposite approach. Let's get rid of everything. Before 2008. Make sure all the books that we have are inclusive.

Starting point is 01:14:18 Yeah. That means there's going to be nothing in the library. There was an interesting case. A girl who transitioned after two visits to her psychiatrist has successfully sued her psychiatrist for professional negligence. This is coming to an end now well there's also this big suit again i think it's a minnesota hospital yeah another lawsuit suit yes by a a girl who was

Starting point is 01:14:56 detransitioned after they cut off her breasts i don't know if they sterilized her or not. Oh, more than likely. But there has to be some, the legal eagles in these large organizations have to consider the possibility of massive settlements. Because you can imagine what a jury's going to do. cases before a jury and you got some girl who's been uh disfigured let's say yeah specifically and and life ruined yeah especially if she's been sterilized and go and has a sob story to tell about how she was talked into it and didn't like the idea but they made her do it anyway and it cost all this money their settlement amounts are going to be astronomical. Yeah. Astronomical. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:15:55 These hospitals are right up against it for trying to pull this off. And they better start backtracking as fast as they can because there's already, it's in the pipeline. And I just don't see anything but some massive lawsuits against the hospitals, the doctors, the psychiatrists, and everybody in between. And they're not going to get past, if it goes to a jury, there's no jury you can possibly select that's a normal jury that is not going to side with the patient. There's not, I can't imagine it ever happening. With the patient. I can't imagine it ever happening. Meanwhile, with the new school year starting off in the United States,

Starting point is 01:16:35 parents are beside themselves with worry and outrage that they have to send their children to school without the allotted amount of ADHD medication they need to get through the day. Yes. There is a drastic shortage of Adderall, Vyvanse, and other such medications. Parents are sending their kids to school. What's this Vyvanse? Vyvanse is the same as Adderall, only it has a delayed action. So, delayed release.

Starting point is 01:17:04 Fancy Adderall. Yeah. kind of like fancy adderall yeah kind of like uh i don't know what was the opioid that had the fancy release i don't know yeah yeah you know what i'm talking about time released time release that's it so why is this why has this happened is it because of china? Nope. What happened? Well, as it turns out, use of prescription stimulants such as Adderall and Vyvanse, which can mitigate ADHD symptoms, I'm reading from Bloomberg, rose 46% in the last 10 years,

Starting point is 01:17:39 partly driven by the pandemic era surge of, here it comes, telehealth prescribing among adults telehealth prescribing among adults we we are a drugged up nation we love speed yes meth speed and parents are sending their kids to school with caffeine drinks to supplement the Adderall because they don't have enough at what point do people wake up and go you know

Starting point is 01:18:11 you know maybe maybe maybe this doesn't make sense sigh we deserve it all I guess. Well, there's always been an underground for this. It's just a move that above ground.

Starting point is 01:18:29 Why are the drug dealers making money on this stuff? We're talking seven-year-olds, John. Seven-year-old kids. Yeah, it doesn't... Like I said, it's a little much. No one used to drug their seven-year-old. Let's dope up a seven-year-old with something. No, of course you didn't.

Starting point is 01:18:45 And it goes like this. Oh, you know, little Johnny was just out of control. He was really, it was too much to handle, but now we've got him on his meds. He's getting A's and B's. He's getting A's and B's. He's so good at constantly, the kid is frying his brain. He's burning out. Burning out, I tell you.

Starting point is 01:19:02 Burning out. Well, the guy again, bringing it back uh joe biden yeah there we go talking about burning out i mean they give him uh they juice him up and he's that's why i think there's a big speech coming where they're going to juice him up again and he's going to come off with uh you know instead of the mumbling, fumbling Joe Biden, it's going to be the yelling, screaming, you know, go nuts, Joe Biden. Now I have I want I'd like people to start collecting these because I have only 31 seconds of these Biden jacked up supercut. But I think we can make this. I'd like to get about five minutes of them. Can you imagine looking at your child? We're changing people's lives. We beat Farmer this year. Think about what you'd think about. Takes everything away from you

Starting point is 01:19:52 without unions or being on middle class. I'm sick of this stuff. Well, I'm sick and tired of smart guys. Not more, fewer. He was a patriot. There is not a single thing we cannot do not a single thing thank you go get him his brain is gone his brain is gone jim yes well there was uh an interesting interesting article in the Washington Post by uber leftist super mensch David Ignatius. Yes, I have a clip discussing this. Oh, I have a couple too, but I'm happy to play yours first. This is the media turning on Biden WAPO. And speaking of politicians age, a columnist for The Washington Post is offering his thoughts.

Starting point is 01:20:49 In an op-ed, columnist David Ignatius argued that President Biden is too old to run again in 2024. Ignatius said he doesn't think Biden and Vice President Harris should run for re-election. He pointed to voters' concerns over Biden's age and Harris' low approval ratings. Biden is currently 80 years old and would be 82 at the beginning of a second term. The columnist called Biden's age a big liability and said it's become the subject of dinner table conversations across America this summer. As to Harris, the columnist said she, quote, failed to gain traction in the country or even within her own party.

Starting point is 01:21:28 Ignatius touted what he considers Biden's achievements, but said that Biden withdrawing from the 2024 race would be a wise choice for the country. Yes, woppo, woppo, woppo, woppo, woppo. And David Ignatius showed up on the Morning Joes with Mika and Joe Scarborough and Mika. Well, she had the only question that matters. Who would be an alternative right now who could do that on day one, a legitimate one?

Starting point is 01:21:55 So, Mika, I can't name you that person. The thing about the democratic process is that it yields answers to questions like that through this amazing phenomenon I still believe in. I believe that open discussion, that nominating campaigns produce clarity, produce candidates, produce leaders. I couldn't agree more that Biden has been a strong leader in foreign policy and in domestic policy. As I wrote in the column, he has passed some of the most significant domestic social legislation in decades. In foreign policy, one of the things that I admire most about Biden is that he's gathered a team around him. This is important because this is coming straight

Starting point is 01:22:42 from the Democratic insiders. Now listen carefully because i have another clip that goes with this he is saying well you'll hear what he's saying a very solid people solid people strategically he is the leader of that team but the team members themselves are strong i have no doubt that this team of sensible strategic people in the democratic party who are driving foreign policy forward in a good way will continue no matter who the Democrats choose. No matter who? On that score, I'm less concerned than you are. I think it comes down to what we were talking about earlier. Is Joe Biden the person who can stop Donald Trump or somebody like Trump who gets the Republican nomination? That's what he's got. He's got to look in the mirror, search his soul and make that

Starting point is 01:23:30 decision. And I wanted to raise that question. I'd like him to think that through carefully because I have my concerns. So that to me is an important thing that he said there. The Democrats in America are looking for, not for someone to run the country because he's got a great team. He's got Blinken. He's got Newland. He's got Sullivan. Yeah, those two, you just named the two reasons that that whole team should be ousted. No, of course. But these people are dumb, John. Because of diversity, equity, inclusion, our entire political system has become dumb. We've hired dummies. So now they're looking for someone who can beat Trump.

Starting point is 01:24:14 They don't care as long as he can beat Trump, he or her. I think that Biden will bow out. I think we won't even get the big speech unless it's possible. We get the big speech and he just goes nuts. And he says, he's going to go nuts. And he says, he says something like I'm corrupt.

Starting point is 01:24:36 You know, that's what I pray for that every day. I pray. Yeah. You get these ideas. You said it. He's a, he's a Catholic boy. He may just all of a sudden say, I got to confess. I'm corrupt. I these ideas. No, it's... Off the wall. You said it. He's a Catholic boy.

Starting point is 01:24:45 He may just all of a sudden say, I got to confess. I'm corrupt. I took all the money. My son's a drug addict. I'm corrupt. What? And so Kamala would have to step in

Starting point is 01:24:55 for the time being. That would be great. First black woman to be president of the United States. It follows the Veep script to the t to the t and pelosi was on pooper talking about kamala and she said some just horrible things about her but i think makes clear that she's going to step in she'll be fine to step in listen to this wasn't up to date that ignatius is vice president kamala harris the best running mate for this president She's going to step in. She'll be fine to step in. Listen to this. and its values and the rest. And people don't understand, she's politically stupid. Why would she be vice president if she were not?

Starting point is 01:25:47 But when she was running for attorney general in California, she had 6% in the polls, 6% in the polls. And she politically astutely made her case about why she would be good, did her politics, and became attorney general. Okay, so I just want to reiterate what she said. She said she's politically astute. When she was running for attorney general for the state of California, she had 6%, and then she whispered, 6%.

Starting point is 01:26:15 But she did her politics. Can you tell me what those politics were at the time in California that she did? I was here. Yes, what did she do to go from 6%? I have no idea. Didn't she sleep with Willie Brown? Well, she did sleep with Willie Brown. It's very well known.

Starting point is 01:26:30 It's kind of like a de facto, facto, facto. She slept with Willie Brown or did something with Willie Brown that put a smile on his face, let's say. And she just got pushed into the job. i don't remember her even campaigning i don't remember a speech from her i remember she was the da in san francisco and she did a a crappy job there she was condemned for some of the stuff she did she was nuts about just throwing every marijuana user in jail and she had let a lot of bad guys go.

Starting point is 01:27:09 She was like an early warning of the Chesia Boudin that they had to recall and get him out of there. And that guy down in Los Angeles, the bad, bad DAs. And yeah, and then she ended up with the job. And the next thing you know, she bounces into this job. She's definitely got a touch. She's politically astute. She's very astute. Yeah, that's the word.

Starting point is 01:27:31 Astute. And as we'll hear in the rest of this clip, she just has to, it doesn't matter if she's dumb as a rock. She doesn't have to say anything. Just be a stand-in. I said it in the polls. And she politically astutely made her case about why she would be good, did her politics and became attorney general. So people shouldn't underestimate what Kamala Harris brings to the table. Do you think she is the best running mate?

Starting point is 01:27:58 She's the vice president of the United States. So people say to me, well, why isn't she doing this or that? I said, because she's the vice president. That's the job description. That's the job description. That's the job description. Don't do anything. Just stand there and be ready when the old guy croaks or leaves or whatever. You don't do that much. You know, you're a source of strength, inspiration, intellectual resource and the rest. And you she i think she's represented our country very well at home and abroad so you don't have to do anything that's the job that's the job

Starting point is 01:28:30 the job is be like selena gomez be as stupid as you want to be it doesn't matter the team around you will take care of it joe's out the question is who is good enough to take on donald trump i know only one. But Gavin Newsom? Big Mike 2024, baby. Oh, please. Yep. It's coming.

Starting point is 01:28:56 I can feel it in my water. Big Mike 2024. BigMike2024.com, everybody, if you want to want to spread the word. Somebody got the domain. Yeah, we did. Believe me. Who else? Who else could take on Donald Trump? Gavin Newsom.

Starting point is 01:29:14 Maybe Nancy Pelosi. I don't think Gavin Newsom's got it. He's got a baggage of the state itself, which is a problem. But even though he's a good bullshitter and he's been promoted, he's promoted by the right in the form of Sean Hannity. Let me tell you, it makes so much sense. It's all coming together now. Just bear with me.

Starting point is 01:29:36 I'm telling you who's going to get it still, unless I see a falter. Kennedy. Let's get to that in a second. The way I would play this is I would get Tucker on our team, so to speak, and I'd have him out Obama as gay with either the real Larry Sinclair or the fake Larry Sinclair. It doesn't matter.

Starting point is 01:30:00 The story is out. And by the way, did you know the Carlsons have quite a history of outing gay and transgender people? Tell me more. Did you know that it was Carlson's dad, Richard Carlson, who outed the transsexual tennis player back in the 70s? Remember? I can almost remember the person's name. Yeah, transsexual tennis player. I thought everyone knew that that was a transsexual tennis player.

Starting point is 01:30:39 Renee Richards. Yeah, Renee Richards. Everyone knew that. No, but it was... Here, from the wiki. 1976, Richards' gender reassignment was outed by local TV anchor Richard Carlson, who also wore a bow tie,

Starting point is 01:30:52 the father of Tucker Carlson. Subsequently, the United States Tennis Association, the Women's Tennis Association, and the United States Open Committee required all female competitors to verify their sex with a bar body test of their chromosomes. So the Carlsons have a history of doing this.

Starting point is 01:31:09 They're the go-to guys. Well, that's one example. Give me more insofar as a history. That's history. Who cares? Just one. Yeah, just two. Two.

Starting point is 01:31:21 There's one was Rene, and two is obama and we have all this the whole i listen the democrat party has primed their it's no longer black it was black people before we have black lives matter petered out everyone stole the money and we don't have the black you have if you if you don't vote democrat you ain black. So that's no longer in play. You're trans. Everyone's trans. That's the thing. 20% of school kids say, I'm trans.

Starting point is 01:31:52 You might as well say, I'm a Democrat. You're wearing a mask. You're a Democrat. It's all tied in to bringing in Obama's gay, I'm sorry, you know, it's right. Then here's Mike. That is an actual play I can see happening it's that crazy in the world amount of time you spend on this thesis is ridiculous i will just remind you donald trump called it early pope nailed it i have a history. You can't refute my choices.

Starting point is 01:32:27 Plenty of refutation. This one is so off the wall. The problem is I get the sense, even though I'm not completely convinced, by the way, that you're sincere. I'm totally sincere as an option. I personally would enjoy Bobby the Op a lot more. as an option i personally would enjoy bobby the op a lot more and it's just that you know it's all rigged against him there's no i mean it's all it's all uphill battle this you know

Starting point is 01:32:55 they're rigging the the primary how does he do it is he can go third party that's not gonna work third party's not gonna work that's not gonna work no one no one is bringing him as an option how do how do you get from here to there i mean i just gave you a viable path for michelle michelle obama okay a viable path where's your red book it's in there it's a viable path there with big blue arrows pointing at it wow now okay so there's one all right there's a possibility we saw a new york times article come out with all of a sudden we have one of the secret service guys who's now in his 80s who was there on the day of jfk's assassination and uh and he comes out and he said,

Starting point is 01:33:46 oh, no, no, no, no, the magic bullet. I found the magic bullet discrediting the entire report. What was it called? The commission, the Warren commission. Discrediting it. He said, no, no, no. It was stuck in between the seat of the car and I put it on the gurney

Starting point is 01:34:03 and then it must've jumped over off that gurney and then onto Kennedy's gurney. Did you read this? He has a book coming out, of course, written by who knows. Yeah. Do you think that this would have something to do with Bobby the K? Big Mike? No, Bobby the K. Oh. Somehow, that felt like something was up. I don't know. The thing is convoluted at the moment. I want to see it shake out a little bit more, the Bobby the K move. Well, there's no moves.

Starting point is 01:34:35 That's the problem. There's no moves. I see no action. I think analysis is being performed as we speak. What to do next? Okay. I'm sorry. I think I have more performed as we speak. What to do next? Okay, I'm sorry. I think I have more in my Big Mike theory than you have on Bobby the King. Yeah, and Gavin Newsom will end up being the guy and he'll lose.

Starting point is 01:34:56 Well, that would probably be the best for America. I do think that we have a possible VP who has thrown her hat into the ring. And that's the Grisham lady from New Mexico. This whole thing that she did with the banning of concealed carry and open carry firearms in New Mexico smells to me of a VP bid. I had the, I had Grisham picked as the VP in the last election before they came up with Kamala.

Starting point is 01:35:31 I think it's a, it's a good pick. But the problem with Grisham now is that she's, she was kind of a perky, I wouldn't say necessarily cute, but she had a lot of pizzazz back four years ago or two years. That was only two years ago. Now she looks like she's been it looks like they've been drugging her.

Starting point is 01:35:52 So she looks bad. She's perfect. She's perfect. She's got a bad look. I got a couple of clips here that I think shows she is. This whole move was nothing about the safety of the people of New Mexico. Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham last week declared a public health emergency and announced a 30-day ban on carrying firearms open or concealed in public areas in Albuquerque and its county. The Democratic governor's move is facing pushback from law enforcement officials and gun rights groups.

Starting point is 01:36:21 Joining us now for her first national televised interview since issuing this order is the governor of New Mexico, Michelle Lujan Grisham. Governor, thank you for your time this morning. And let's get to exactly that. We just heard from the sheriff. He joins the attorney general and others who say they won't enforce it. It's unconstitutional. Why do it if it can't be enforced? Well, that's their opinion. They have no bold actions. They don't have any plans for reducing gun violence. Every single aspect in terms of preventing gun violence, funds, crime labs, more than $150 million for retention, bonuses, and recruitment of new police officers. I'm focused on one thing. We have the third highest gun-related injuries in the country, 90% higher than the national average. We lost 143 children between 2017 and 2021. It is unacceptable, and it calls for immediate and swift and bold action. And frankly, the evidence bears out over and over again. Fewer guns on the streets makes everyone safer.

Starting point is 01:37:30 And I'm focused on everyone's constitutional rights, not just those the NRA says I should be focused on. Yeah, it's not just the NRA. Here's one other concern from the sheriff. Here's what he told my colleague, Caitlin Collins, last night. In a couple of months or a year down the road, we're the ones stuck in court and we're the ones getting sued over all of these infringement of rights and all these other court battles. And I could be focusing so much more on crime. When she says bold action, you know, gun crime, she doesn't care about the people of New Mexico. She cares about being the VP whose job will be

Starting point is 01:38:03 to take away America's guns. Has any law enforcement officer in Albuquerque or the county actually enforced this yet? Well, we haven't issued any civil penalties, but that doesn't mean that we're not and that we don't have the ability to do that. But that's a no, right? This is the pushback I get from every single, well, it's a no this minute, but that doesn't mean that we aren't, and it doesn't mean that we don't have additional police presence. And if not this bold action, making sure that you're safe going to the grocery store, you're safe going to a baseball game, you're safe walking on a hiking trail. There are individuals, including young people, where it's illegal today to have a handgun, openly carrying handguns.

Starting point is 01:38:48 My question to law enforcement is where are you? Where are you? In that young 11-year-old, Froyland Villegas, 17 rounds were fired into that gun. 35,000 rounds are fired at least annually in Albuquerque alone. You are not safe going to work, getting your prescription drugs, or going to a public park. And it wasn't just about a cooling off period. It's about making sure that everyone is safer while we do bolder work to get at both the drug epidemic and the gun violence epidemic. And it's not for police to tell me what's constitutional or not.

Starting point is 01:39:29 They haven't supported one, not one, gun violence effort in the state of New Mexico. Anti-police. Domestic violence protections, universal background checks. And I know you want to ask me a question, so I'll take a breath. No, you're not. These are NRA talking points about their rights and not about anybody else's. And it's not a ban. It's a temporary pause so that we can make this community safer.

Starting point is 01:39:55 She is so vying for a VP, maybe even president, but certainly a VP position. Well, maybe this is the place. Everyone knows that Kamala is like a weak link and nobody likes her. Yeah. And they got to get rid of her if they're going to run again. And Biden's not going to give up the ghost.

Starting point is 01:40:14 Okay, well, whatever. You guys can... No, Biden's going to get jacked up. You'll see it. It's going to be in the next few weeks. I can't wait. They're going to jack him up. Yes.

Starting point is 01:40:23 With a shot. He's going to give a big rousing speech, bitching about everything. And he's going to, he's going to talking about, you know, dignity. And so,

Starting point is 01:40:34 uh, they're going to move out Harris and move this girl in. Oh yeah. For the, for the next run. Okay. So you think Joe is still good to run for, uh,

Starting point is 01:40:43 for 20, 2024. He's proven he can beat trump okay even though the democrat insiders are saying he's too old which is code for he's too wasted no i think there's a schism in the party and the schism is being shown is a wapo is right on there they're at the front of it. They're saying, you know, you got David Ignatius being the front guy. Of all the columnists you could have used, you put him as the guy because I don't know why. But there's a reason for that choice.

Starting point is 01:41:18 Maybe nobody else wanted to do it, to be the point man for this whole takedown. And so they chose him, and he's okay, but he's not the greatest in terms of being a point man and, you know, turning the whole party against Joe. You know, it's a salvo. So it's a shot across the bottle. Let's see what happens. Meanwhile, Joe's not giving up, and his team's not giving up,

Starting point is 01:41:44 and so they're looking for somebody new, and you're probably identified her and it's michelle who i thought should have been the one in the first place the um wait you so you're agreeing with me did you just agree with me i said biden's gonna run again is that agreeing with you no you said it should have been michelle big mike's gonna run again is that agreeing with you no you said it should have been michelle big mike's gonna run again that's michelle that big mike is michelle no michelle no michelle grisham oh i'm sorry i was like whoa what are you talking about all right now the the bobby the op thing kennedy i think he may be an op but he if, he's an op to get Trump elected. He can take votes away.

Starting point is 01:42:30 He can actually degrade the Democratic vote. Well, then you have to assume if that's true, then we have to make the assumption that Trump has sold out and is now okay to go. Is that what you're saying? I'll tell you my bottom line. I don't think anyone controls it, but someone controls the voting and whoever runs the show determines who becomes president

Starting point is 01:42:52 and they screwed up and somehow Trump eeked through and he got it. And they're never going to let that happen again, no matter come hell or high water. That's what I think. I don't think voting matters. I think your vote doesn't matter.

Starting point is 01:43:04 My vote doesn't matter. I think it's completely completely bogus i really do it's it's hard to think of that but i think it just doesn't matter it's rigged everywhere every which way and they just took their eye off the ball because they thought oh no hillary trump can't do it and somehow they forgot to do some stuff. Somebody took, you know, wasn't paying attention. Someone dropped the ball. Someone dropped the ball, and that'll never happen again, ever.

Starting point is 01:43:35 It's been determined. Whatever they want, it's all been set. And it has nothing to do with the people in Washington. It has nothing to do with the Department of Justice or the FBI or anything like that. It's rigged. It's screwball. That's

Starting point is 01:43:52 what I really think. Well, that's what you really think is fine. And so I don't see how anything you just said makes any sense with bringing in Big Mike. Okay. We'll see. You will repent?

Starting point is 01:44:10 Big Mike is out. Okay. Let's talk about one other thing that I need to get off my chest. Don't call it a comeback! It's back. And just to confuse you even further into believing that this summer cold is somehow COVID-XB3.225974,

Starting point is 01:44:32 let's bring out a whistleblower. This morning, the CIA confirms it's looking into accusations that several members of an agency team tasked with COVID pandemic analysis were paid significant hush money to shift their position regarding the origins of the virus. Two Republican lawmakers have sent a letter to CIA Director William Burns claiming that a senior level current agency officer came forward alleging the payoff. They say according to the whistleblower, seven officers were assigned to the CIA's COVID discovery team and six of the seven members of the team believed the intelligence and science were sufficient to make a low confidence assessment that COVID-19 originated from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. The letter claims only one person on that team, who was most senior, believed that COVID could have been transmitted from animals to humans. But that to come to the eventual public determination of uncertainty, the other six members were given a significant monetary incentive to change their position.

Starting point is 01:45:36 The whistleblower did not explain the payments or who might have made them. The CIA tells ABC News, we are committed to the highest standards of analytic rigor, integrity, and objectivity. We do not pay analysts to reach specific conclusions. The origins of COVID have been the subject of several congressional hearings. Former CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield earlier this year testified he was excluded from discussions because he believed the lab leak theory warranted investigation. I was told to me that they wanted a single narrative and that I obviously had a different point of view. Dr. Anthony Fauci called that accusation untrue. In June, the Office of the

Starting point is 01:46:17 Director of National Intelligence said the CIA and another agency were unable to decide on where they think COVID's origins lie as both hypotheses rely on significant assumptions or face challenges with conflicting reporting. This new letter is asking for documents related to the COVID discovery team's creation, communications about COVID's origins, and records of any financial bonuses. The letter is asking for that information to be turned over by september 26th so i the timing of this is uh is suspect uh the minute the fda uh authorizes uh the new vaccination booster you know there's even disagreement over what we're calling it um to bring in redfield i think this is all all bunk um a whistleblower particularly inside the government has whistleblower protections but you have to come forward

Starting point is 01:47:14 and i'm reading from the um united states house committee on oversight accountability press release they say staff on the select subcommittee of the coronavirus pandemic and permanent select committee on intelligence have heard testimony from a whistleblower alleging that the central intelligence agency offered six analysts significant monetary incentives to change their position on covid19's origin the whistleblower who presents as a highly credible senior level cia officer what does that mean the whistleblower who presents is this person a highly credible senior level cia officer or do they just present that way

Starting point is 01:47:57 what does that mean it means that whoever wrote the press release was a illiterate the whistleblower who presents as a highly credible senior level senior. Let's assume the whistleblower was a high-level guy. This whole thing is bull crap. Correct. It's only to get you to believe that this is all a real thing right now. And forget about the original. Right now, no.

Starting point is 01:48:21 This is just the flu. It's just a cold. The coronavirus literally is a cold that litter coronavirus literally is a cold but yep the timing is perfect believe it's real because we've got another shot for you tonight's fda authorization is a major step towards new booster shots after the cdc meets tuesday vaccines from moderna and pfizer could go into arms by the end of the week. Arms! Talk about a pitch into arms! Could go into arms by the end of the week.

Starting point is 01:48:54 Drug makers say boosters should increase protective antibodies against the latest strains, including BA-286. The CDC says the mutation shows the ability to infect the protected and even those who've already had covid but it doesn't appear to be more severe what this booster will do is protect us against severe disease hospitalization and the data so far indicate that the booster is well matched to those strains though national doesn't that sound that doesn't it sound a lot like the the same script they used to use for the flu oh we've matched it it's the right one we figured it out it's the right one for this strain for this year's strain of the flu for this for this year's strain

Starting point is 01:49:37 of the pandemic of the covid is well matched to those strains though national covid cases are no longer tracked some states are reporting a rise, though not a worrisome wave, in new infections. Hospitalizations are up nearly 16%, even though 97% of adults have some level of protective immunity. I was extremely exhausted and just like bad congestion. College senior Lou Maestri just caught the virus as she returned to school, just like many adults have at work and at large venues. Last week, a lot of my classes were empty because a lot of kids were reporting that they were sick.

Starting point is 01:50:20 Reporting because they didn't want to go to school. While the federal government will no longer pay for booster shots, most Americans will be covered by private insurance or Medicare. Local clinics are also expected to offer the roughly $120 shot for free. While many new infections are mild, tonight there is concern

Starting point is 01:50:37 a winter wave could be near if Americans don't take precautions or get protection. We went from a worrisome wave to a winter wave, and we need to bring out as many people as we can onto the phony baloney M5M networks to sell this, to sell it to the American people. Do you remember Dr. Jha? Remember that guy, Jha?

Starting point is 01:51:00 Yeah, I remember Jha. Well, they brought him on the Today Show. Jha, let's sell it, baby. Sell it home. Bring it. Joining us now, Dr. Ash on the Today Show. Ja, let's sell it, baby. Sell it home. Bring it. Joining us now, Dr. Ashish Ja, the former White House COVID response coordinator. Now, once again, the dean of Brown University's School of Public Health. Dr. Ja, you had your tour of duty in Washington. But here we are talking about what some people are calling a COVID booster. But this is a new shot. Tell us about this new one and what it responds to. Which is it? Is it for a particular variant?

Starting point is 01:51:26 Is it for the original COVID? Why do we need to get it? Yeah, okay. Let's sell it. So, first of all, thrilled to be back. It's good to be back. You know, it's good to be on the payroll. Look, every year we update our flu vaccine to match the flu strain that's circulating.

Starting point is 01:51:40 And now we're just doubling down with two shots for you every year. We're starting to do the same thing with COVID shots. Yes, yes. So there are new strains of COVID that are circulating, and you need a new shot once a year. I don't call it a booster because, you know, it's just your annual COVID shot at this point. And most people should go out and get their annual COVID shot the way they get their annual flu shot. And it matches the strains that are circulating out there right now. It matches.

Starting point is 01:52:04 It's just like a flu shot. It's matches. It's just like a flu shot. It's crazy. It's just like a flu shot. This is exactly what we used to do. Only we wanted to make more money, $120 per shot. But don't worry, your insurance will pay for it. It doesn't cost anybody in the world anything else. And Medicare will pay for it.

Starting point is 01:52:18 I don't know where the magic money. Okay, so we should be getting that shot. Now, you said with the flu shot, a lot of people are about to get their flu shot. Is it a good idea to get both of those shots together? Well, let's look at the balance sheet. Yes, it's a great idea. It's together? It is.

Starting point is 01:52:32 I got both of them last year together. Totally safe to do that. Totally. Sue that guy. What he said right there, I think it's suable. Hey, Dr. Jha said it's totally safe. It works just as well to do that. It's obviously much more convenient uh you can get them in the same arm you get them different arms it doesn't matter but you can definitely get them at the same time make a good

Starting point is 01:52:53 point we don't call it a booster shot we just call it our flu vaccine don't call it a booster it's a shot baby it's new we don't say that about the flu it has to be new and fresh every single time yeah your annual flu shot and so it's time for your annual covid shot get them together it makes the fall the winter the holidays just much safer much better for everybody it's much better for everybody because you don't want to kill granny the hospitalization numbers that we've seen tick up from the prior week doctor shot to what do we attribute that i heard uptick i heard a script uptick it's ticked up the hospitalization numbers that we've seen tick up from the prior week doctor shot to what do we attribute that i heard an uptick i heard a script uptick it's ticked up the hospitalization numbers that we've seen tick up from the prior week doctor shot to what do we attribute that it's just this like a return to no it's just the numbers to work after

Starting point is 01:53:32 labor day is it more to it than that yeah look it's going to be with us right forever just the way flu is with us wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute when did we hear that covid's going to be with us forever just like the flu is is with us? Was this a major scientific survey study or something? Did you hear about any of this? Yeah, no. This was presented a couple, this was early on in the game. They threw this at us. It's largely because coronavirus is the cold.

Starting point is 01:54:02 It's always going to be with us. It's always going to be with us. COVID is going to be with us, right? Forever, just the way flu is. Forever? Forever? He totally did. Forever?

Starting point is 01:54:12 Forever? Forever? Yeah, look, COVID is going to be with us, right? Forever, just the way flu is with us. And the question is, how do you manage it? With COVID, we're probably going to see a couple of these little waves a year where it's going to go up, it's going to go down. They usually happen during the winter.

Starting point is 01:54:29 We get one usually during the summer. This is just sort of that late summer COVID wave. We've seen it each of the last couple of summers. We're seeing it again. I'm hoping it's going to turn around. It's going to peak and start coming back down. This is a reality. And we can manage our way through it just keeping

Starting point is 01:54:45 up on the vaccines just you can manage it do they do the right thing here and suggest it twice a year shot even better even better than that they don't even hide it anymore they say look look pfizer moderna they're sponsoring this segment they're paying for everything on television right now could you just get to the, could you close it? Can you pitch this thing and close it for me? Dr. John, make your big pitch here, okay? I mean, because a lot of folks, if you're immunocompromised, if you're elderly, you know, you want to. I knew I'd get you with that one.

Starting point is 01:55:19 Make your pitch. Come on, man. We got 40 seconds left. Make your pitch, Dr. John. Dr. John, make your big pitch here, okay? I mean, because a lot of folks, if you're immunocompromised, if you're elderly, you know, you want to stay on top of your COVID shots. Other folks who are like, I'm reasonably healthy, I'm young, do I really need to do it? Or, you know, I've had COVID three times and I've had all the shots. What's your pitch? At what point? At what point? Is that Savannah?

Starting point is 01:55:42 At what point? At what point? Is that Savannah? I know. I'm not sure that's Savannah, but whoever it is, because she's not. I can't tell right there. But the idea that you'd say I've been vaccinated, double vaxxed, I've been boosted and boosted. I've had COVID three times. Why do I need another shot? It's just like, does anyone notice how ludicrous this is? Thank you for pointing that out. This is, and I was, dinner last night, and people were talking about their family members who are doctors. Who are doctors. And you can literally say to them,

Starting point is 01:56:18 do you remember when it was safe and effective and 95%? Yes. Do you remember it went to 85 and 75 and then you needed two and they needed a booster and they need another booster and was safe and effective and then you wouldn't go into the hospital and and you know you would be no severe illness and and you know there's no myocarditis it's crazy and any of that you remember all of that yeah, then why do you think that this is any different? Well, I haven't, you know, I'm not dead. That's only unvaccinated people. You know, it's, isn't that, what's it called?

Starting point is 01:56:55 Cognitive dissonance. Isn't that the exact perfect textbook example of cognitive dissonance? Like see that. Dissonance, yeah. Dissonance. Am I saying it wrong? I thought you said dissident. No, no that dissonance yeah dissonance am i saying it wrong i thought you said dissident no no dissonance which is a funnier term if you think about it let's finish as a pitch is big pitch yeah what's your pitch yeah so a couple things first of all if you get covid after

Starting point is 01:57:17 getting vaccinated it's going to be much milder you're less likely to miss work you're less likely to miss school prove it second you're less likely to spread it to others so maybe you're not high risk maybe grandma is if you've gotten the covid shot you're less likely to miss school. Second, you're less likely to spread it to others, so maybe you're not high risk. Maybe grandma is. If you've gotten the COVID shot, you're less likely to spread it to her. That makes a really big difference. And then, you know, some people go on to develop long COVID where they can have long-term complications. That gets reduced

Starting point is 01:57:35 a lot by getting vaccinated, too. Free, widely available. To me, it's a no-brainer. Free! Free! Free! I like the idea of charging of all things because the shot is, we already know the cost of the shot is $19 max. $120. $10 for the... $120.

Starting point is 01:57:53 Well, it was $20. That was Moderna, but the Pfizer was cheaper. It's $120. Yes, I'm just going to get to the point. So they've got to... We know what it costs. It's $10 to $20 to make the thing. And so they just bill itself for $30, $40.

Starting point is 01:58:10 But by jacking the price way up to $120 and then saying it's free, it's a marketing trick. Yeah. Yes. Thank you. Yes. So why don't they just say, well, this is what's coming. This has got to be coming because i would do this if i was a the marketing guy at pfizer yeah that goes like this well this new

Starting point is 01:58:32 this be next year the new we got the new variant this was a tough one this cost this the r&d that went into getting this this this one done this shot is going to be 300 bucks. 300 bucks, that's what it's going to cost. But free, if you, you know. But 300, so you jack, you know, you phony baloney up some price in the sky, charge the government for that, because, you know, you still have to pay,

Starting point is 01:59:03 somebody has to pay the 300 bucks. It's just a win-win. It's a win-win. Maybe just the very end there, what he said was kind of cool. That gets reduced a lot by getting vaccinated, too. Free, widely available. To me, it's a no-brainer. It's a no-brainer. That's the payoff. It's a no-brainer. What's wrong with you? You don't need a

Starting point is 01:59:19 brain. In fact, if you have no brain, it's better that you get this shot. But let's talk to let's go over to nbc stay with nbc not the today show how about side effects you know any issues and what about any side effects with this one yeah they're supposed to mirror previous versions of the the covid shot uh you might have a sore arm fatigue nausea headache even fever in some cases some people have learned by now whether they're someone who should take the day off the next day because maybe they have more of a reaction to this shot.

Starting point is 01:59:47 It seems to be different for everyone, right? That's right. I do think I remember I was a little sick, but not too bad after, you know? All right. Erica, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Starting point is 01:59:55 Thank you. Why don't we ask Dr. Fauci about side effects? Let's just ask him on ABC This Week. So what's your sense? Obviously those that are in high risk categories, but who should be taking that booster? You know, John, I don't want to get ahead of the ACIP and their recommendation. My own personal feeling is that I believe certainly those who are vulnerable, the elderly and those with underlying conditions. But I believe we should give the

Starting point is 02:00:21 choice to people who are not in the high-risk groups to have the vaccine available for them. Because, again, we have experience with this type of vaccine in billions of people. It's a safe vaccine. Of course, with the mRNA, there's a very, very, very low risk, particularly in young men, of getting a myocarditis. Oh, wait. I don't remember that in the beginning, but there's a very, very, very, very, very, very low risk, particularly in young men,

Starting point is 02:00:53 but it's very, very, very, very, very low risk. It's a safe vaccine. Of course, with the mRNA, there's a very, very, very low risk. Very, very, very, very. Particularly in young men of getting a myocarditis. But if you look at the risk of myocarditis from COVID itself is greater than the risk of the vaccine. Okay.

Starting point is 02:01:14 And so from my own personal standpoint, I would say that make it available for everyone, but certainly recommend it for the high risk people. Yeah. Now you get myocarditis from COVID. Not from the vaccine, from COVID. From COVID. This guy is a liar. Now, I thought he was retired. My understanding was, and I've said it before.

Starting point is 02:01:39 Yes, he is. A few months back, he quit the job. He's done. Why is he still on TV constantly? Because he gets paid to do that. He is a full-fledged employee of the pharmaceutical industry. He actually still gets royalties. Just because you're no longer with NIH doesn't mean you don't get the royalties.

Starting point is 02:01:58 That goes on in perpetuity. He's selling his own stuff. Yeah, but that doesn't mean he has to be on TV. Why doesn't he just go home and collect the royalties? Cash, checks. Are you seriously asking me has to be on TV. Why don't you just go home and collect the royalties, cash, checks? Are you seriously asking me why he's on TV? The man sells. Come on.

Starting point is 02:02:11 He's America's. He's the COVID patron saint. We trust him. The mask, though, the Cochran study, that's a bit of a problem. And we're almost out of time, but I want to ask you. There's a new study out that suggests that masks were actually not effective at least in a global sense in in remember that oh it's local level they're effective but not on a global level in containing the uh the the pandemic well what is your sense looking back at all this uh did masks prove to be less effective than you anticipated? You know, John,

Starting point is 02:02:46 some of the studies that are confusing, the study that recently has been now quoted a lot and causing a lot of confusion is this Cochrane study, which even the people who run the Cochrane studies say that that study can be misleading because people have commented

Starting point is 02:03:02 on that study saying absolutely masks don't work, which is absolutely not the case because there are a number of studies that show that masks actually do work. And there's a lot of confusion when you take a broad series of studies and you look at them in a meta-analysis. Only a couple of those studies were specifically looking at COVID. So I think we better be careful that that study that people keep talking about can be very, very misleading. There's a lot of good data that masks work. Well, OK, so that's just that's just wastewater of the mouth because he said nothing.

Starting point is 02:03:37 Wouldn't it be nice if we could hear from the man who actually ran that study, who's behind the study, Dr. Jefferson, because there's no confusion in his mind about the Cochran study. And I'll give it to Shmir Konish from CNN for bringing this guy on and saying, what's the deal with your study? Why is it so controversial? Which I don't think it is. But according to Dr. Fauci, it could be misinterpreted. It's very confusing. Even the people that ran the study say it's confusing. The Cochrane Report's physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses was published earlier this year.

Starting point is 02:04:16 An aggregate analysis of scientific studies on the efficacy of masks. Dr. Lena Wen in the Washington Post has called Cochran a highly reputable source. Its systemic reviews are considered the gold standard of medical analysis. So I thought I would go to the source, the first author of the Cochran study, and hear his side of the controversy. Dr. Tom Jefferson joins me now. He's an epidemiologist and senior associate tutor at the University of Oxford. Do masks work, in your opinion, in stopping the spread of COVID? We've got three trials on SARS-CoV-2, and none of them show an effect. It is impossible to show that something doesn't work in this case.

Starting point is 02:05:04 And science adopts a probabilistic approach, so it's a chance approach. Is it more likely than not? At the moment, there is no evidence that that is the case, that they work. And which mask against which pathogen? There's hundreds of pathogens. So that's a situation. I have to say this worries me. When you bring in the Dvorak, there's no evidence.

Starting point is 02:05:30 It's like, I don't know how to interpret that. But we can ask even more clearly, can you say with certainty that masks don't work? So I'm hoping to bring clarity to viewers because it's very hard to follow as lay people. It sounds to me, Dr. Jefferson, as you are saying, we don't know. And by the way, when I look at the author's conclusion, and I'll put this on the screen, the author's conclusion from the most recent of these flat out says there is uncertainty about the effects of face masks. I don't want people to think that you're here saying they don't work't want people to think that you're here saying

Starting point is 02:06:05 they don't work. It sounds to me like you're here saying, I can't tell you if they do or they don't work, but please speak for yourself. You're correct. I can't tell you whether they work or don't work, but it's more likely than not that they don't work. Okay? Based on but this is not just against SARS-CoV-2, the COVID pathogens. We're looking at interventions over 78 trials over 50 years. The whole

Starting point is 02:06:36 review is over half a million participants in these trials. Now, the underlying problem that you've got there is that people are drunk with certainty they're told that something works end of the story that's not science what science is about is is likely or unlikely to work or we can't find any evidence of it okay so what is it if it's not science it's politics the hospitalization numbers that we've

Starting point is 02:07:07 seen sorry that was that was well you know talking about politics you're bringing in covid and politics are you familiar with what's going on in new york with the quarantine camps oh goodness do you have a clip of this tell me you have a clip i have two oh thank you Do you have a clip of this? Tell me you have a clip. I have two. Thank you. Masks don't work, by the way.

Starting point is 02:07:29 Quarantine camps. New York State is still fighting for the right to set up quarantine camps today. The battle entered the next phase when the court heard oral arguments in the case. Quarantine camps in the state of New York. Governor Kathy Hochul and Attorney General Letitia James want to implement Rule 2.13. It would give the state's Department of Health the power to forcibly isolate individuals suspected of carrying a transmittable disease. This is truly about being able to control citizens for any reason. New York State Senator George Borrello and Lead Attorney Bobby N. Cox sued the state over the rule and won the case last year. However, the state

Starting point is 02:08:06 appealed and on Wednesday, attorneys made their case before an appeals court. The rule says the Commissioner of Health can pick any place that the Commissioner of Health wants to put you. You have no say. As you can see in this clip, hundreds of people showed up at the court protesting the idea of quarantine camps set up to stop the spread of communicable diseases. Senator, the COVID pandemic is over. Why does the state of New York still want to have the right to set up these camps? Well, first and foremost, we have to remember, even though the governor and the attorney general tried to make this about COVID. The senator says the state's rule would apply to a long list of diseases, not just COVID.

Starting point is 02:08:45 It goes everything from toxic shock syndrome to food poisoning. And while food poisoning might be a serious condition, it is not communicable. Is toxic shock syndrome communicable? No. Who is this guy? this who is this guy he's telling you what this what this what hokal wants to do is take people off the streets grab them and throw them into a quarantine camp yeah for any good reason that's right new york uber alice the senator says new york's executive branch is overreaching by trying to implement this rule according to him the state's proposed rule is basically a copy of a previous proposal

Starting point is 02:09:27 which didn't get any support from state lawmakers and thus didn't become law. What they have essentially said is if the legislature isn't going to make this law, we will. So it's a very clear violation of the separation of powers. The lead attorney in the case points out a few things in the state's rule which she says are against the law. According to the rule, you would not get an attorney until after you're locked up or after you're locked down.

Starting point is 02:09:50 But you also wouldn't get notice, which means that the Department of Health could show up at your door or they could send the police with an order that you need to isolate or quarantine. And it could be not just for you, it could be for your child. Meanwhile, the state argues that its proposed rule only clarifies existing law. Supporters of the rule say quarantine measures are being used in states around the U.S. and have been used for centuries. Wow. I'm going to give you a clip of the day for that sequence.

Starting point is 02:10:19 Wow. Clip of the day. Wow. Wow. That is borderline upsetting. Only because I have a stepdaughter in New York. That is... They could grab her and throw her into camp.

Starting point is 02:10:31 This is part of the international health regulations. I'm telling you, they want so much control. Just like this nut job in New Mexico under health regulations wants, you know, bans guns. Yeah, it's bad. Yeah, health regulation. Oh regulation oh no we got to lock you up luckily there's one sane voice among the the sea of horrible horrible people and that's fran drescher and i knew i liked her and i like her even more after seeing this on Instagram. As the president of SAG-AFTRA, it has been my obligation to follow the board's decision to support the employer's privilege to vaccine mandate productions as they so pleased.

Starting point is 02:11:37 VanDrescher, as well as the president of SAG-AFTRA, I have been outspoken publicly, as well as with my board and executive director, in defense of those members who are unvaccinated for a myriad of reasons. And as a consequence, has lost their livelihood, their representation, and their health benefits. The reason that there are so many prescriptive drugs at the pharmacy is because there isn't one kind that works for everyone. So to think that every human on the planet can take one vaccine is ludicrous. And to make that one vaccine the criteria for who is allowed to work, travel, dine, go to theater, etc., is an infringement on the Disabilities Act, the Freedom of Religion Act, and body sovereignty. We as a nation must be very careful that fear does not turn into fascism. When equal citizens stop being equal, when cards must be presented to identify whether you are included or excluded, we stand at a tipping point of an America I no longer recognize.

Starting point is 02:12:46 And even though I myself am vaccinated, I must applaud Disney for taking the position not to vaccine mandate their sets any longer. The problem with discrimination is that there will always be good people who justify it because of an extreme condition. But it is those times especially when we must fight even harder to protect the sanctity of freedom for all. Never succumb to an us versus them mentality. Above all else, freedom. Peace.

Starting point is 02:13:30 I like that. No, she's always been against the mandatory vaccines. Yeah, but she brought in a lot of other stuff. She brought in the cards and the others and that was good. She's got a target on her back others, and that was good.

Starting point is 02:13:47 She's got a target on her back now, but that was good. She's going to be voter out. No, I think she just got reelected. I don't think she did this before her reelection. That would be crazy. No, I like that. It was a sane voice. I like she threw in a little nanny.

Starting point is 02:14:03 That's ludicrous. She threw in a little nanny there. Yeah, she did. She did break. I like that. And you know what else I like? Saying to you in the morning, the man who just put the C in the quarantine camps, ladies and gentlemen,

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Starting point is 02:15:15 I know, politically incorrect, but she's fat, she sings, we have her. And also you can get an alert on a modern podcast app. Dump all those old ones. I'm telling you now, they're all going to be controlled eventually. They already are, but it's just going to get worse. Podcastapps.com, we recommend today. Podverse, because it will give you an alert when we fire up that bad signal.

Starting point is 02:15:36 So far, it's the only one that's done that, but a lot of them have the live stream. And of course, you can jump into Troll Room as well. And you can follow us on noagendasocial.com if you want which is still the outpost on the on the Fediverse the Mastodon

Starting point is 02:15:55 we used to be able to follow journalists on Mastodon they're all gone, they all left, they're blue sky we're still the outpost the holdouts, the holdouts of Freeze peach at no agenda social.com follow john c dvorak at no agenda social.com adam and what huh what huh what huh what what that's i was just thinking about i was noticing that the phone was disconnected in a way that is not what i expected wow okay huh indeed thank you for listening to my my rant there i appreciate that it was good rant yeah um

Starting point is 02:16:35 you notice we don't have any uh people coming on telling us to uh you know to with big pitches on on getting the Vax or any other kinds of corporate, creepy corporate money that slides in. No, no. In fact, we haven't taken a break for over two hours. Whereas if you were listening to the radio, you'd have heard at least 20 minutes time,

Starting point is 02:16:58 40 minutes of commercials. None of that. We didn't ask you to go to a Patreon for some premium content. all the premium is right here up front there's nothing that you can't get to for free we do think it's valuable and we appreciate that if you feel value has been received on your end you send that back to us with time talent or treasure many ways you can do. You can tell someone about the show. Hitting people in the mouth is a big part of it.

Starting point is 02:17:32 You can also create jingles, get clips to us, do boots on the ground. So many ways you can participate. One of the things we love the most is very talented artists. These artists listen to the show live. They're one of those 1,902 people today. and they are trying to come up with outstanding artwork that will fit perfectly with this episode because the muller report the muller report shows that a good piece of art gets people interested reminds them that we are the best podcast in the universe because we have the best podcast art in the universe and uh we'd like to thank the artist who brought us the artwork for episode 1589

Starting point is 02:18:06 misidentified i might point out in my opening of the last show as 1598 for some reason oh yeah interesting blunder yeah i'm from the future and the past no 1598 uh oh 5098 yeah yeah it's from the. I'm 10 episodes in the future. Dyslexic future. Exactly. The artwork came to us from Kenny Ben. Dame Kenny Ben.

Starting point is 02:18:35 And she brought us, and exactly as you predicted, John, some people thought it was about the football match. This was the Bama pencil. Very short, stubby, thin pencil with Bama on it. Bama. Yeah. Go Crimson Tide. A lot of people thought it was about that.

Starting point is 02:18:52 Many people realized it was about the donation segment on the last show, of which one complained. Only one complained. I was surprised. I wasn't. I thought there would be many more. Only one complaint. I think it's because there there would be many more. Only one complaint.

Starting point is 02:19:06 And that producer... I think it's because there was only one guy listening. It was a she. Only one guy listening. Oh, yes. I got that note. Yeah. But she said she just turned off the donation segment and then she came back.

Starting point is 02:19:19 So that's good news. I understand. I understand why that was harsh. It was tough to listen to. There were a number of choices that we could make we had to make one of course so we thank all of the artists let's see what we were looking at what do we have to work with this was your fave this one right off the bat it was my fave yes no doubt um there's a lot of kennedys playing tennis which is funny yeah Yeah. A few cheesecake things here and there. Michelle Obama, Big Mike.

Starting point is 02:19:50 The Big Mike thing. It's not going to happen. No, it's not going to happen. There really wasn't a lot of, I mean, there wasn't anything that. Really stuck out. You wanted to use. No. That was going to work.

Starting point is 02:20:03 No. No. news no that was going to work no no i did like uh correct the record who had a guy holding up a sign saying obama's dong is more interesting than clips about africa that was funny that was just a message to you to me it wasn't really a submission at all was it meant as art who else used to do that all the time i don't. There was another artist that used to send us messages by turning in art with a note, somebody holding a note, which was complaining about something.

Starting point is 02:20:31 I don't remember who that was, but it's okay. Sir Net Net did a Transmaoist thing. I think that you want something, like what I liked about Dame Kenny Benz is you didn't have to hear the show to know that something was up. And it was mysterious

Starting point is 02:20:49 because is it Obama as in Alabama? Is it Obama as in Obama? You know, it was, it popped, it really popped. It was a hand-drawn pencil. It wasn't a picture, it wasn't clip art. So it was, I thought it was a very good piece. I really loved it. Sir Ned threw in a freeze peach,

Starting point is 02:21:09 but no one will get that. And Jay Khan sketched, did a sketch, but nope, I like that you're doing sketches, but that wasn't the one. So clearly Dame Kenny Ben, for the win. How are we on the leaderboard? Where's Dame Kenny Ben? She's number five. Number five for the past year of the topboard? Where's Dame Kenny Ben? She's number five.

Starting point is 02:21:25 Number five for the past year of the top 10. That's pretty good. Nestworks, still number one. Tantanil, number two. Capitalist Agenda, number three. Nico Syme, number four. And there she is, Dame Kenny Ben, number five. Thank you to all of our artists

Starting point is 02:21:39 for really giving it the yeoman's try. But only one can win, and we're happy to credit that artist in our show notes, which we do diligently. Thank you again, Dame Kenny Bam. Now, to the ever-important treasure part of how you can send back value

Starting point is 02:21:56 to the No Agenda Show, we have a couple of executive and associate executive producers to thank, a number of them becoming knights and ordains today. Kicking it off, do you have this note? This note here, the first one is from Anonymous. Do you have this note, John? Do you have it handy?

Starting point is 02:22:17 I do. I have it right in front of me. Okay. Tell me about this note because it was a doozy of a donation. 22. I have the note. You can tell you know how. 22.

Starting point is 02:22:26 A massive row of ducks. As anonymous in the morning, boys, please accept this row of ducks value 2222222. I was hitting them out two years ago by Sir Son of the Fort and have rarely missed a show since, but I have never contributed until now. Well, that's how you do it. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:22:46 So I need a solid dedouching. Sorry. Hold on. Deduction here. You've been dedouched. Solid. Totally solid. Thank you for all your work on the greatest podcast in the universe.

Starting point is 02:23:00 Your deconstruction of the media and news is refreshing. I believe it's a row of ducks gives me both executive producer and full knighthood status. Correct. If approved, please knight me as Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility in the lands of the red clay and cherry trees. Red clay and cherry, is that Japan?

Starting point is 02:23:25 I have no idea, I don't think so. What's red clay and cherry trees Is that Japan? I have no idea. I don't think so. What's red clay and cherry trees? I don't know. If knighted, well, he will be on the list as far as I know. Yes. I would greatly appreciate Coors Light, twist tip only, twist top only. Yes.

Starting point is 02:23:41 Double pepperoni pizza and hot wings at the round table. Mm-hmm. only. Yes. Double pepperoni pizza and hot wings at the round table. I will be contributing a shorter row of ducks going forward to keep myself current. No jingles, no karma necessary. Thank you. Sincerely, Anonymous.

Starting point is 02:23:57 There you go. Oh, beautiful. I'm just looking at my... And he's in Georgia, so maybe that's... Ah, Red Clay and Peach. I got it. Maybe there's Red Clay somewhere in Georgia. I don't know. I got it.

Starting point is 02:24:09 I got it. Thank you very much. That's beautiful. Then we have David Knauss. Oh, we know David Knauss. 738... The Knauss family. Yes, 73872.

Starting point is 02:24:19 And says, if you mention Knauss Drywall of Petrolia, Ontario, Scandinavia, I can write this off as marketing. Okay. Naus Drywall of Petrolia, Ontario, Canada. Jingle request, Naps for Humanity, Isis Gregorian, Donate to Know Agenda Show, my 41st

Starting point is 02:24:40 birthday is on the show day, September 14th, so we've got all that for you. Night name is because it's going to be night there's a lot of stuff happening here sir drywall of the walnut ridge side note i listen live on sundays while i have my sunday afternoon nap for humanity then re-listen on monday to what i've missed when you play the ontario canada emergency alert tone a few weeks ago i woke up assuming there was an amber alert for kidnapping. For those of us that nap for humanity while listening to No Agenda, may we request

Starting point is 02:25:08 that you avoid disruptive noises as it disturbs our peaceful rest. Just kidding, of course. We in the Nowse family love all that you do for us. Nap for humanity. Donate to No Agenda. They give

Starting point is 02:25:24 us shows week after week. Donate to No Agenda. They give us shows week after week. Donate to No Agenda. It's a show that's really unique. Donate to No Agenda. Listen to John and Adam speak. Donate to No Agenda. Science is turning into a clique. There you go.

Starting point is 02:25:45 Nice. Why don't you get the next one, and I'll get the one There you go. Nice. Why don't you get the next one and I'll get the one with the note. Okay. Hold on a second. This is from Lisa Churich, I believe. Church, Brentwood, Tennessee.

Starting point is 02:25:56 Churich. Churich. Well, it doesn't matter because it's a switcheroo. This $640 donation is to the best podcast in the universe and to celebrate my better half 64th trip around the sun. Happy birthday, Mark.

Starting point is 02:26:09 All right, let me change that to Mark. All right, consider that done. Okay, set. Mark Church, with this donation, Mark Church becomes a knight, a perfect gift for the guy who buys his own birthday gifts, leaving us with no ideas. However, this gift of a knighthood will honor him forever, long outliving the golf

Starting point is 02:26:27 balls he loses or the running shoes he wears out. Please knight Mark as Sir Lee Engineer. Sir Lee Engineer. Very funny. In honor of his long career as an EE, electrical engineer. Shout out to our favorite spook surveillance

Starting point is 02:26:45 who hit us in the mouth several years ago. Jingles a biscuit for his birthday. I can do that right now. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Anything from Rev Al. Oh, you're really asking for everything here. I'm seeing Rev Al. Okay, got a Rev Al.

Starting point is 02:26:58 And Screaming Dog Karma. For the round table, please serve egg and cheese bagels and Diet Coke along with the obligatory mutton and meat. Thanks for all you do. From Lisa Church in Brentwood, Tennessee. The GOP infighting is escalating. Political says Democrats are outright giddy.

Starting point is 02:27:17 Happy to watch the GOP implode. You thought. Carmine. You've got karma. We have a really nice card that came in from Patricia Lewis in Merced, California, 33334. And she writes in a nice handwriting, too. Dear John and Adam, thank you for continually bringing awesome content followed by deconstruction of pertinent news yes uh this enclosed donation is a double birthday contribution for my son brian lewis of atascadero and myself patricia lewis of merced california we celebrate a shared birthday on september 20th he was the best gift i've ever received jobs karma for all in deep appreciation signed patricia lewis now we got that for you jobs and

Starting point is 02:28:15 regular karma jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs karma luca maria asberto is in savosa Vote for Jobs. You suck. Karma. Luca Maria Asberto is in Savosa, Switzerland. Yeah, Switzerland. C-H is Switzerland, I believe. Yeah. 333.33. Happy belated birthday to me. What?

Starting point is 02:28:38 Yeah. Yeah, Switzerland. Happy belated birthday to me. September 11th. That's right. I'm an inside job. Thank you for your courage now she's on the list he i think it's luca is a he i'm just luca i'm sorry that was lucia uh baron anonymous cop in redwood city california now he says advertising read voice okay

Starting point is 02:28:58 baron anonymous cop here the unofficial seller of no agenda tactical patches and limited edition challenge coins on Etsy.com slash bootleg coin CA of which I have only a few show 1500 coins left. Check them out while you can before the holidays start. Ready to five out of five by no agenda nation john i'm appalled at the flurry of abhorrent content you played on show 1589 hey and there's the second complainer yeah there it is if you didn't give that one a listen it's a must people with that horrific oh he's talking about the vocal fry tiktoker oh okay well that was with that horrible vocal fry TikToker as the cherry on top at the end. Oh, I guess it will.

Starting point is 02:29:46 He's just like the show. The content almost made me crash on highway one-on-one during rush hour while dodging potholes. Please, by God, no more of that. I will keep this short. I've been reassigned to graveyard hours,

Starting point is 02:29:59 protecting the realm of the zombies and things that go bump in the night. The show is what grounds me on my days off and i think you guys don't listen to the show on graveyard in the car and thank both of you and the entire no gen a nation immensely over uh 10 years of listening cheers gentlemen the baron anonymous cop of the bay area adam i just switched from graphene OS to Calix OS on my Pixel. Give it a look. Yeah, that's a hard pass for me. Calix OS is sponsored by the Canadian government.

Starting point is 02:30:34 So that's just a no. But thank you, and I'm glad that you like it. Baron Anonymous Cop. Peter McCool, Yuba City, California, 333. Please de-douche. You've been de-douched. Jingles, little scary, little girl scary Bojiden, Biden whole load, women no, karma for all. Don't eat me, Bojiden, you're scary, so scary.

Starting point is 02:30:59 I'm going to give you the whole load today. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Sorry, that's not the women. You thought. Where's the wrong one that's that's weird it was iso no i don't understand let me just see that's iso no this is hold on how can this be hit it no that's the wrong one it's may it's maybe it's no iso oh well we've lost this one before.

Starting point is 02:31:28 BLG in Jacksonville, Florida is up 300 bucks. Dear John, I'm going to add him. Firstly, I much prefer you to add him. Thanks for letting him know. Secondly, my husband, oh, this is a female listener. Secondly, my husband gave me Mimi's book, Too Many Eggs for my birthday, and I love it. TooManyEggs.com. In following, this donation is for my husband gave me Mimi's book, Too Many Eggs, for my birthday, and I love it. TooManyEggs.com. And following, this donation is from my husband.

Starting point is 02:31:52 It's his birthday today, September 14th, and so I would like him to get a biscuit. No, you don't like me, so thanks. There's no biscuit. He's a subscriber, but he likes living under a rock, so he will remain anonymous. Many thanks, BLG. So this is a... I'm mutinying. You're very rude to me. This is switcherG. So this is a... A mutiny. She's very rude to me. It's a switcheroo.

Starting point is 02:32:07 We're going to give it to her husband anyway. What, so we say anonymous? No. I don't know. It's not a switcheroo. BLG's anonymous husband. I don't know. But she wants me to...

Starting point is 02:32:18 After this rude comment, she wants me to give her husband a biscuit for his birthday? She just prefers me. She didn't say she hates you. Okay. They always give me a biscuit for his birthday she just prefers me she didn't say she hates you okay they always give me a biscuit on my birthday i prefer you to her as well dame bay area wildfires san martin california 300 this is one of your dames day bay bay area wildfire i donated to do a shout out to my great friend kristin on sept. It's her birthday. I promise I won't mention her age. We both live in that wonderful sheep state, California.

Starting point is 02:32:49 I have to say this is one of the bravest people I know. We recently came back from Las Vegas from jumping off the stratosphere, a height of 856 feet straight down off of a zip line. Give this woman a biscuit on her birthday. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. It's biscuit day it is biscuit day please from the both of you tell her she's the best

Starting point is 02:33:10 you're the best she's the best you guys are amazing keep up your best work we always aim to please okay you can get this one no no no you can get this one alright y'all get the note you you know the

Starting point is 02:33:27 reason is i can't see the whole thing yeah don't dox me bro this is renegade six and i have a note to go with my switcheroo donation for my smoking hot shk what is that sparkles of chaos oh okay actually um luckily we only have to read the on air note we got all this but renegade called well texas switcheroo donation for my smoking hot keeper shk we got it sparkles of chaos saluting her pair of crenshaw melons and asking for some health karma can i please get her a few bars of jCDs? I've got ants. Yes, I can get you some ants, no problem. I love getting ants for melons. And then old yelling karma.

Starting point is 02:34:12 Thanks for all you do to break down the scams. You betcha. I got ants. I got ants. I got ants. You've got... Karma. Karma. Okay, so now we have the FEMA Region 1 meetup report.

Starting point is 02:34:55 Also on paper. Oh, we do. Donation from the first semi-annual FEMA Region 1 backyard bonfire bash. It was a great success, all told. We had 14 people in attendance with no repeats from the last meetup i don't know if that's good or bad maybe the next time we'll catch them all anyways here's some money keep up the good work please group d douche the following people elise sven isla jack dita ivana troy and sarah yes and then it says i love you bye you've been deduced consider it done uh brian mccormick bel-air maryland 250 adam and john thank you so much for the greatest podcast in the universe. Please find the $250 donated via PayPal.

Starting point is 02:35:45 The donation is in honor of Karen McCormack, my devastatingly cute wife, and retired cobalt programmer. Even says funny cobalts, but we got you. We met in the real Motown, a.k.a. Morgantown, West Virginia. That's right, Motown, not far from Salem, in 1981. Please play China is Asshole. i got that one for you got the full one and goat karma as these are her favorites adam where can i send the pepperoni rolls to do you have a preferred brand send them to my p.o box p.o box um 1849 fredericksburg texas 78642

Starting point is 02:36:22 but john would also like some pepperoni rolls. So send them to our No Agenda PO Box, which you can find at... Yeah, that's how I get it in there. Dvorak.org slash NA. Donald Trump don't trust China. China is asshole. You've got... Karma. By the way, that guy who did that thing, call out?

Starting point is 02:36:44 Yeah. He's dead. No, he's dead? Yeah, they found him and shot him in the head. Are you kidding me? No, I'm just, I don't know. Okay. Seems like he should be.

Starting point is 02:36:55 No. Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado is up. Good for her. I'm back for round two, Jobs Karma. And for a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakersInc.com. Or just find Linda Lupatkin on the producer list. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Starting point is 02:37:21 She's a make-good. Let's vote for jobs. No. You've got karma. That He's a make-good. Let's vote for jobs. No. You've got karma. That's not a make-good. She never, you know, something was wrong with the PayPal export on show 88, I think. And a couple of donations got dropped. And hers was dropped.

Starting point is 02:37:38 I don't think she's broken her streak. I believe this. Well, I'll assume she hasn't because she says she hasn't. There's no reason to she wouldn't she just does this routinely she's got some person in the office they're just sending this in every week

Starting point is 02:37:53 every show is it every show? every show every single show Dame Beth is our final associate executive producer from Tucson Arizona Heil boys! we'll Heil to you comrade time for another Too Hot Tucson meetup Every single show. Dame Beth is our final associate executive producer from Tucson, Arizona. Heil, boys. We'll heil to you, comrade.

Starting point is 02:38:12 Time for another Too Hot Tucson meetup Thursday, September 21st from 4 to 7 at Canyon's Crown. Join us for libations and laughter. No jingles, no karma, just good vibes from Dame Beth. And these are our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1,590. Ten more until the big 1600. And we'll also be celebrating our 16th anniversary in that same week, more than likely. And these are credits that you can cherish and keep with you for a lifetime.

Starting point is 02:38:38 You can have more than one if you want, by the way. It goes per episode. And you can use that anywhere credits are recognized. Fran Drescher might recognize you because it's a real credit. And thank you for being executive and associate executive

Starting point is 02:38:53 producers of the best podcast in the universe. If you'd like to become one, go here. John will take us through to the 50s. We'll get to our meetups and nightings and birthdays. And we have lots of stuff to talk about. Michael D. Maranville in Nevada City, California.

Starting point is 02:39:12 150.51. Probably should be called a redneck hippie. Melissa Reeve in Winchester, Virginia. 106. Sir Stephen in Meridian, Idaho. $100.33 with a birthday call coming. Mary Ellen Smith in Stewart, Florida, 100. Melissa Reeve in Winchester, Virginia, 100.

Starting point is 02:39:36 John Mudge in Denver, Colorado, 100. Cindy Hornmeyer in Rancho Santa Margarita, California, 94, 57, for her husband Ted and his birthday. Sir Paul in Twickenham, Middlesex, UK, 8008. And he's got his love of his life, Ellie, on the birthday list. Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina. 8008. This is the boob donation, but it's for melons. Valencia melons. Or Valencia.

Starting point is 02:40:14 Valencia melons. That'll be today's melon of the day for 8008. Also, Michael Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana. 8008. David Jarman in Northwest Territories Australia, New South Wales Australia, sorry

Starting point is 02:40:32 Northwest Territories, Canada the Powerball number is 72 so my donation is $72 nice, good one David Raymer in Stanford today's powerball number is 5 000 there's no such thing hello david raymer in stamford connecticut

Starting point is 02:40:56 6969 you guys can decode that for whatever however you want this is bringing him into knighthood for his 69th birthday uh i don't know that he's on the birthday list i like to be known as sir chef sir sir chef sir i'm not sure how but the pun is there i've been listening and contributing at 11 11 cents a month since 2015 he's on the he's on the birthday list and on the nighting. Ooh, he wants some Eshazo 1999. Excellent. What is that? It's a burgundy.

Starting point is 02:41:31 And 1999 is a tremendous year. Wow. I'm so impressed. Yeah. Eshazo. Eshazo. Here's your number. Here's your name.

Starting point is 02:41:40 Eshazo. Eshazo. Recommended by Lizzo. Theodorus, could you check him on, see if it makes sure he's on the birthday list? Just to make sure. What, Theodorus? Theodorus?

Starting point is 02:41:53 No, David Raymer. I just said he's on the birthday list. You don't listen to me. Oh, I didn't hear you. I'm reading ahead. Theodore Casimir, Casimir, Casimir, something like that. And he's in ES, which is in Spain. He's in Spain.

Starting point is 02:42:09 In Tenerife. He's in Tenerife. 69, 69. Happy birthday, Adam. I know the feeling. My birthday is July 30th. We put you on a birthday list, by the way. Yeah, we did.

Starting point is 02:42:21 William Wild in Baltimore, Maryland. 6'9", 6'9". Jack the Jitty. August Alexander von Poppel in Norway, 6969. We'll give you some house-selling karma at the end. John Bigelow, 6789. He was missing. He was missing from the 1588 spreadsheet, so thank you.

Starting point is 02:42:43 He donated again. Or maybe this is a make good. Whatever it is. Thank you, John. We're happy. Whatever it is. Sir Doherty in Stephen City, Virginia. Six, five, four, three, which is a good one.

Starting point is 02:42:57 He's got a birthday coming up. Sir not Jake. Sir not Jake. Edward Bala, 6126. And this is the other 1588 missing donation. Dame Tara in Urbana, Illinois, 6033. Christopher Walker in Monticello, Minnesota. Needs a de-douche.

Starting point is 02:43:18 You've been de-douched. He came in with a small boobs donation of $6,006, and so did Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina, with $6,006 promoting Golden Prize Melons. That's Golden Prize. I think I've had this melon. Yes. It's a beauty. I love those melons.

Starting point is 02:43:39 $6,006. Julie Shepard, $6,006. And she wants a de-douching for her husband on her 7th anniversary. And they never had a de-douche. You've been de-douched. And now we have our favorite

Starting point is 02:43:55 de-may-a. Sir Michael Anthony in Rosedale, New York. 59-59. He likes hearing his clips. You know, he does YouTube. He looks a little bit like the mayor. He's got the same bald head and kind of a true man shoe.

Starting point is 02:44:17 Yes. We love him. Sir Tooth, yeah. More work, please. Wait, he'll be appearing as the mayor. Comic strip live in New York City, September 21st for a comedy fundraiser. All right. Go see him live, everybody.

Starting point is 02:44:32 You have his whole bit. Sir Tooth Fairy, another missing 1588 donation. Christopher, which is for 5678. Yeah. No, it's for, well, it doesn't even say. Don't you mention it. Some donation. Christopher Dector, 5678.

Starting point is 02:44:52 Thomas Grosshong in Howard, Ohio, 55. We're getting to the end. Top Notch Heating and Air. Top Notch Heating and Air in Mantee, Utah, 55. Ken Ryan in Bonita Springs, Florida, 53. Christopher Worth in Aurora, Colorado, 5280. Played golf today, got cart 33. There you go.

Starting point is 02:45:18 There you go. It's a sign to donate. Anytime you see 33, that's a cosmic sign to donate to the No Agenda Show. That's a fact. It is. Well, and not only that, it's in the Durham report. Yes, it is, actually. Catherine Morton, Charlotte, North Carolina, 51-11.

Starting point is 02:45:37 Sir Economic Hitman in Tomball, Texas, 50-01. And now we have the $50 donors. This is a good list of them today, starting with Andrew Grasso in Mineola, New York. Corey Cunningham in Warrington, Virginia. John Spade in Edmond, Oklahoma. Tim DelVecchio in Blandin, Pennsylvania. Stephen Ng in Box Elder, South Dakota. Michael Wendell in Mattawen, New Jersey. Gary Mao in Woodland

Starting point is 02:46:10 Hills, California. Real Deals Now in San Antonio, Texas comes in with 50. Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami. Jared Jha in Nashville, Tennessee. Brandon Savoie in Port Orchard, Washington. Kenneth Smith in Utica, New York. Jeff Hutchinson in Topsham, Maine. He's in Singapore, he says. Kevin Dills, Sir Kevin, in Huntersville, North Carolina. Christian Freeman in San Marcos, Texas,

Starting point is 02:46:46 and Christian with a C, Gruelish in Lakeland, Florida, Daniel Buccarelli, Bucciarelli, I think, Bucciarelli, Buccellarelli, yeah, Lansdale, Pennsylvania, Lansdale, Pennsylvania Lansdale, Pennsylvania and he I'm not even going to say what he wrote Dame Knight last on the list from Edmonds, Washington Thank you Dame Knight. I want to thank all these people for making show 1580 I believe

Starting point is 02:47:18 the winner that it is 1589 I'm nine ahead, you're nine 1590 1590 Make 1590. 1590. 1590. Make good from Shauna Cavanaugh.

Starting point is 02:47:30 We missed a birthday note. Says, want to wish my smoking hot man, Patrick Biot. Biot. A very happy birthday. It was on September the 12th. He's been listening since the beginning of the end times and is in dire need of a deduce. You've been deduced. Please give him some karma.

Starting point is 02:47:47 And we are the troll room in honor of him finally becoming a troll. How about this one? Someone in that troll room is out of control. I'll give you that one. It's from a smoking hot babe, Shauna, and we appreciate the followup note. Shauna,

Starting point is 02:47:59 sorry about missing that one. Thank you to everyone who supported 1590. Also those who came in under $50. We don't read out those names, but we do appreciate you being on one of the many sustaining donations.

Starting point is 02:48:11 As you see, you can even become a knight or a dame. We have one queued up for you and ready to go. If you'd like to become a producer of the best podcast in the universe,

Starting point is 02:48:19 please consider sending that value back to us for the value you got. All premium, all the time, no paywall. Dvorak.org slash NA. As requested, the karma. Here you go.

Starting point is 02:48:32 You've got karma. It's your birthday, birthday. I'll know what you're doing. Wow, long list of birthdays today. Theodores Casimir, July 30th. Luca Maria Asberto on the 11th of September. I'm so much happy Excuse me, Tracy of Ohio celebrating today. BLG wishing her husband a happy birthday today as well. David Raymer turning 69. Sir Jake turning 40 on the 16th. Sir Paul wishes the love of his life, Ellie, a happy birthday, turning 30 on September 16th.

Starting point is 02:49:14 Dame Bay Area Wildfire says happy birthday to Kristen on the 16th. Patricia Lewis celebrates on the 20th and wishes her son, Brian Lewis, a happy birthday on the 20th as well. What are the chances? Lisa Cherich says happy birthday to hubby Mark, turning 64. Sir Stephen wishes his son, Sir Scott Riley, a happy one, 33. Cindy Holmeyer wishes her husband, Ted Holmeyer, a happy birthday. And I'd like to say happy birthday to Maverick, Maverick Mitch Ponsford, my periodontist, and my flying buddy. He celebrates his birthday tomorrow.

Starting point is 02:49:46 Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. No title changes, but we do have a couple of nightings. One, two, three, four nightings. So put down that harmonica. Pick up the blade. Right there.

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Starting point is 02:51:07 and a certificate of authenticity. And thank all four of you for becoming Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable. No Agenda Meetups! No Agenda Meetups. They can happen anywhere. It can be two people. Sometimes it's just one. That's not the best meetup. But even if it's two, if it's 200, a meetup is a meetup that means you have local connection to your community, part of Gitmo Nation. And as we all know, connection is protection. Hey, this is Sven in Thompson, Maine with a meetup. I don't remember the name of my meetup because I made it really long to try to hear Adam pronounce it all.

Starting point is 02:51:49 But we had a good turnout. We got a lot of folks here, so I'm going to pass this around. This is Troy. I've been listening for a long time, and I am no longer a douchebag. Hi, it's Elise. Hi, this is Isla. Hi, this is Ivana, and thank you, Adam and John John I've been enjoying your show tremendously making me laugh hi this is Dina and we're so grateful to no longer be two friends

Starting point is 02:52:13 hi this is Jack and we just expanded our community tonight and we met a lot of lovely people. Thank you. Absolutely. Connection is protection. Yay. In the morning on three. One, two, three. In the morning. All right, Maine, thank you very much. And people are starting to produce, I guess. Here's Red 33, Red 33, the Boston Meetup Report.

Starting point is 02:52:41 What is this? It is happening again. In the morning! How's it going? This is Sir Karras, Viscount of Greater Boston. Three, five, I shine. This is Sir Paul. Thank you for your courage. Thank you for your courage! All right. Stop with the sound effects, people.

Starting point is 02:53:02 Philly, how did you do? This is Sean here speaking from Union Tap House in the Manayunk neighborhood of Philadelphia. I don't think we got any spooks here today. Hey, this is Brian in Philadelphia in the morning. In the morning. Shout out John C. Keep saying bullshit. Appreciate you, brother.

Starting point is 02:53:18 In the morning to you guys. Thank you for your courage. This is my first meetup, and I look forward to the next one. I've had a great time, and thank you for everything. Love you guys. We actually had a little impromptu meetup here in Fredericksburg last night. I was having dinner with a buddy. Tina's with her sister in the land of Chicago, northern Indiana.

Starting point is 02:53:38 And two people at the table next to us, Karen and David Young, Big No Agenda listeners, came over, hung out. We had a nice little chat, much to the chagrin of most of the restaurant. Come to bed. And he's an ER doctor here in Fredericksburg. Oh, nice. Good to know.

Starting point is 02:53:54 Yeah, exactly. He said, you know, if I get a bullet wound, no problem. Come directly to me. Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. Here's what's coming up today. Meetup-wise, 6.30 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado. We have the In the Morning Richmond Meetup, which's coming up today meetup wise 6 30 at lincoln's roadhouse in denver colorado we have the in the morning richmond meetup which is uh coming up on saturday legend brewing company

Starting point is 02:54:10 richmond virginia it's a scam on saturday the flips patio grill fort worth texas we have the shrunken amygdala support group at two o'clock on saturday at taft's brewporium in cincinnati ohio the red 33 red, don't send me one of those meetup reports again. They'll be doing it again at Castle Island Brewery in Norwood, Massachusetts. And the Conspiracy Therapy Group session kicks off at five o'clock at Round Table Pizza in Ripon, California, also on Saturday. Spot the Spook, Tim's Cajun Kitchen, Huntsville, Alabama, that'll be at five on Saturday. And on the next show day, Sunday, Charlotte's first annual golfing meetup. 9 a.m. is your tee time.

Starting point is 02:54:50 And that'll be in Charlotte, North Carolina. And they'll be at the Tradition Golf Club. And then they'll move to the Flying Saucer Drought Emporium. And also on Sunday, the 33rd annual Knapp for Humanity Meetup at Duxworth Grill and Taphouse at Reeve Farms in Charlotte, North Carolina. And finally, the Tribal September Summer Rearview Mirror Meetup. Really, guys. Blind Owl Brewery, Indianapolis, Indiana. These are just some of the many No Agenda Meetups that are on the calendar. It goes all the way through October. If you want to take a look at it, go to noagendameetups.com.

Starting point is 02:55:30 Producer organized, free for everybody, and always guaranteed a party. Connection is protection. noagendameetups.com. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you won't be. Triggered or hell to blame you wanna be where everybody feels the same it's like a party well I guess we're both light on the isos today

Starting point is 02:55:57 one each one each oh yeah I'll play okay well I'll play yours first here we go

Starting point is 02:56:04 have a great day what even was that Here we go. Have a great day. What even was that? Have a great day. Have a great day. Have a great day. No, no. Mine wins. Science is awesome.

Starting point is 02:56:13 That wins. They both suck. Yours stinks. Mine sucks a little less than have a great day. I think we should play our evergreen or something. That thing is no good. An evergreen? Who has ever heard of an iso-evergreen?

Starting point is 02:56:29 Nailed it. Nailed it. How about that one? No, I don't want to play that again. We just played it. Okay, well, let me go to the real evergreens, all right? Let's go here. What do we have?

Starting point is 02:56:38 Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Oh, here's one for you. Kiss my fat ass. How about that one? Okay, that's the winner. We have a winner. Wow. Needle drop.

Starting point is 02:56:53 Wait, before we go to clips, I got to read a note that just came in from a woman talking about her neighborhood library. So, you know, we give Canada a bad time. I want to read this. This is not good. Okay. library so you know we give canada a bad time i want to read this this is not good okay hello our neighborhood library in grandview view missouri removed everything published before 2005 what what happened in 2008 a few years ago they quote unquote donated it to amazon i was so upset.

Starting point is 02:57:27 I asked the librarian if there'd be any classics left. She said, yeah, but only if it was an edition published after 2005. What is going on? And then she goes on with a second note. She gave me an example of not needing old editions of textbooks, for example. I thought the library should be a place where you could compare textbook changes throughout the years. So many books we loved were gone. Great show today.

Starting point is 02:57:52 Crystal. Thank you, Crystal. I'm concerned. We're cavalier and we're kind of laughing about all this stuff. Yeah, I know, but yes. This is a real problem. I mean, they're taking...

Starting point is 02:58:02 What is going on? Is Hitler coming back? What's going on? Taking books out of the library before 2008. I need to know from any Canadian librarian, anyone who knows, why 2008? What is the deal with that date? Yeah, especially the Canada with the 2005 is another date. Again, this is like 21st century.

Starting point is 02:58:26 You'd think the idea of a library is to have stuff that you could go there that you normally can't just get because it's new. If it's new, you just buy it from Amazon. Yeah. It's not like we're talking about a school library. This is just library.

Starting point is 02:58:41 Yeah, this is a real library. It's an actual library. I need to read it. No, I think people should get out of the house and check their local library and ask around about these old books. I know some libraries, like my local library and the University of California library, when you go into the main areas, there would be a big pile of books that they're selling. They'll sell you books for 50 cents or a dollar. Books are taken off the shelves. But in the case of like the University of California, for example, those books have all been scanned. They're all online. I have a boots on the ground report that is troubling from Massachusetts. In the morning, boys, quick update from the horrible state of Taxachusetts.

Starting point is 02:59:29 My cousin is set to get married over Columbus Day weekend. The groom's family is from out of town, and they rented two floors of a hotel so they could all be together for the weekend. Governor Healey just seized the hotel to house migrants. So they have lost their reservations. There's nowhere else to stay. On top of it, all the hotels that are housing migrants are having fires, assaults, etc. It's a nightmare.

Starting point is 02:59:56 Thank you for your courage, Alex. It's a nightmare. You think? Man, I... Well, that sucks. I mean, it's an outrage outrage it's an outrage this isn't it is an outrage actually update from one of our many mail carriers as we've learned throughout the years mail carriers who work for the usps they love listening to podcasts because that's

Starting point is 03:00:20 what you do when you're pushing around and delivering mail. And we know there's been problems with their new fangled systems for pay. And this mail carrier sent me a copy of his pay stub that says $0. Last pay period, 50% of carriers reported not being paid correctly. Many had problems with management's quick fix. Money orders weren't being recognized by banks and had delays or the wrong number values inputted. Banks thought they were fake. This pay period, there were at least 15% reporting

Starting point is 03:00:55 that this check is missing. It goes back to my email about the union being mad that the carriers wanted to do a new union. Yet every day on the scanners we use, the USPS brags of record revenue profit, and there's a non-government strike clause which would send employees to jail if they strike over being paid zero dollars.

Starting point is 03:01:14 But of course, late fees rack up for mortgage and credit cards, and no one cares. Our mail carriers are in trouble. They're trying to get rid of the United Postal Service. It's the backbone of the country. It is in the Constitution. One of the few things that's actually required to be in existence, as opposed to the Department of Education, as you mentioned earlier. And in fact, I do have some Vivek going off the rails clips about him wanting to get rid of a bunch of employees and this is the most ludicrous commentary this is not i mean it's maybe you can get a vote or two but this is a pipe dream

Starting point is 03:01:55 but you have to listen to these vivek ramaswamy clips republican presidential candidate vivek ramaswamy is laying out his plan to cut the federal government and the laws to back him up. He says he'd start by cutting federal employees by 75 percent and shutting down several agencies. Well, all right. Hey, I'm all in on Vivek now. All right. Make that happen, buddy. Come on.

Starting point is 03:02:23 75 percent. That's they have every one of these bullshit artists they come in they promise us that they don't cut one person you can take that to the bank there you go let's play the part two people who we elect to run the government ought to be the ones who actually run the government. Speaking at the America First Policy Institute on Wednesday, Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said the balance of power in America has changed over the years. Three-letter government agencies that wield the most political power in the federal government,

Starting point is 03:03:02 despite having the least political accountability through unelected bureaucrats who have no backstop of actually being accountable to the public. And he laid forth his plan to restore the Constitutional Republic, taking aim at the size of the federal workforce as well as certain government agencies. First, it will be a plan that reduces the size of the federal employee headcount by over 75% if I'm the next president by the end of my first term, 50% of which is implementable by the end of year one. Some would argue that the president doesn't have that power, but Ramaswamy said that's only a myth. And he read from the 1977 Reorganization Act, which says the president does indeed have that authority.

Starting point is 03:03:50 To reduce the number of agencies by consolidating those having similar functions under a single head and to abolish. That's not my word. That is a word in the statute to abolish such agencies or functions thereof ramaswami said he'd start with the fbi and he cited information about the bureau from the pulitzer prize-winning book g-man the same one that used illegally collected tapes to threat threaten martin luther king jr into committing suicide they tried to do is now being used to target political opponents of a different persuasion wow you know he's picked up the cadence of a southern preacher he yes have you noticed this yes good catch i agree he's got that the very precise again i use the word precise pronunciation of certain words, ending with hard sounds.

Starting point is 03:04:47 And he just sounds like a preacher. And he's sounding more like a preacher than he's ever sounded before, especially in these clips. I think there's one left. Yes, there is. And he explained what shutting down the bureau, which has about 35,000 employees, would look like. They're going to go home when we shut it down and find honest work in the private sector. But 15,000 of those employees are going to be reorganized into the U.S. Marshals, into the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network at the U.S. Treasury,

Starting point is 03:05:16 into other parts, the DEA, that are taking on the drug enforcement problems that we have in this country. He also said he had shut down the Department of Education. This is an agency that spends approximately an $80 billion budget per year telling local schools that they can't get those federal funds unless they adopt toxic racial and gender ideologies. Some of the other departments Ramaswamy said he had shut down are the ATF and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. Well, at least he's spicing things up.

Starting point is 03:05:54 Well, he's swinging for the fences with this one. What does he remind you? What does he remind you? He kind of reminds me in a way. He reminds me of somebody I can't quite figure well he reminds me of a number number of southern preachers well yeah there's that there's that that uh you know fredericksburg is actually kind of interesting um they have a we have a tax increase that's being voted on tuesday and man people are gonna go they're to go to the council meeting and um because the property tax yeah and

Starting point is 03:06:25 it's it's tax or is it it's well it's ancillary tax no it's uh property tax it's supposed to be uh inflation plus increase in population is way above that and people are you know because i think the main a big revenue source for people in fredericksburg is uh bmbs you know so they have a second second home and you know they're being priced out of it of being able to provide that yes the that's that's not just fredericksburg believe me no no it's not but i live here and it's fun to watch because people are taking it to their city council and that's that's what has to happen everywhere. You got to do local stuff.

Starting point is 03:07:07 You know, instead of going on X and complaining. Complaining on X. It's no fair. I don't like it. It's not good. All right. Well, that was good. I actually am out of clips.

Starting point is 03:07:23 I don't have anything worthwhile unless you got something that we can... Well, I got the clips about the White House pushing back on the impeachment, which we didn't talk about at all. I do have one clip that's good. Okay. All right. One. Because this is a galling clip. Okay. It turns out that Californians don't really want to pay reparations to every black ex-ADOS, you know, one-time slave. No, of course not.

Starting point is 03:07:48 When California wasn't even a slave state. But let's play the reparations clip. They went all in when it was, you know, virtue signaling. But now it's like, hey, let's have a vote. Most Californians are against cash reparations for residents who are descended from slaves. A recent poll reveals that conservatives are pretty united in the opposition, while liberals are mixed. NTD's Aileen Eng has more. According to a recent poll by UC Berkeley's Institute of Governmental Studies, or IGS,

Starting point is 03:08:19 the majority of California voters are opposed to cash reparations payments to black residents. Majority of California voters are opposed to cash reparations payments to black residents. 59% of voters opposed the State Reparations Task Force recommendation to make cash payments to the descendants of enslaved blacks currently living in California. Of those who opposed, 44% are strongly against the idea. Democrats and liberals were divided, while Republicans and conservatives were nearly unanimous in their opposition. However, most voters agree that the legacy of slavery is affecting the position of Black Californians. According to the IGS co-director, while many can empathize with the plight of Black Americans, not all of these feelings will translate into

Starting point is 03:09:01 support for policies that address longstanding racial harms. In 2020, Governor Gavin Newsom created the nation's first reparations task force to calculate the costs of slavery and racism and how to make up to Black Californians. In July, the task force proposed over 100 recommendations and a 1,000-page document. It also recommends the state pay over $225 billion in reparations. Whoa! That's the problem. All virtue signaling, all dishonest.

Starting point is 03:09:34 Why don't the states that actually had slaves... I'm looking at you, North Carolina. Cough up some dough. Why are we stuck with the bill? No, that ain't working. That's not flying. No, no, no. They're going to start handing out

Starting point is 03:09:51 money to LGBTQ two-spirit. That's the new voting block. That's the one. Go Big Mike 2024! Hey, does a two-spirit person get two checks? Not only that, they get two votes. Seems likely. Now there's something. There's something. Does a person get two checks? Not only that, they get two votes. How about that? Seems likely.

Starting point is 03:10:06 Now, there's something. There's something. You're two-spirit, you get to vote twice. Of course, in California, they've always been voting twice. Yes, we know. These last with Matty J coming up, along with Sir T.J. the Rathbowl on our end of show mixes. Great job, boys.

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Starting point is 03:11:33 The conspiracy as a kid looked odd. My guy, the Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz. Going down a yellow brick road. Looking for a heart. Keep stacking your stats, Maxwell. Get smart. Back in the day, I watched Meet the Fockers. Now my ears bleed listening to TikTokers. No more wristwatches.

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Starting point is 03:12:00 How can people not see at this point we're eating ourselves to death? Consumed by the toxins in the environment, many people living on unrealized debt. Markets manipulated and suppressed, especially with precious metals. You ain't seen nothing yet, you're what they allow. Why keep saying they? Hiding in the shadows, gripping power, and I mean all day, all night. You can go left, I said I'm good at being right. I, the three T's

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Starting point is 03:12:41 Created by these creatures Yeah, shout out G, Edward Griffin. Yo, really your G, he put together how to understand money monopoly and how a policy came to be through these eloquent speeches. Now the podcasters spread the message with tremendous reaches. There's an uptick in COVID cases. Notice the language, uptick. Man-made virus goes round the outside, round the outside, round the outside.

Starting point is 03:13:08 Happening again, oh no. Oh no, an uptick. An uptick in COVID cases is forced. Man-made virus goes round the outside, round the outside, round the outside. Oh, we've got to talk about uptick. It's not a surge, it's an uptick. Guess what's back? Back again.

Starting point is 03:13:25 COVID back. COVID's back. Tell a friend. COVID's back. COVID's back. COVID? Yes! It's back. It's back.

Starting point is 03:13:35 It's back. COVID's back. Here is the script. Uptick in cases. Surges in cases. Who are getting quote-unquote sick. But they're not dying of COVID. So if the CDC won't let me be, or let me breathe, or let me see,

Starting point is 03:13:50 they try to shut me up, put a mask on me, but feel so empty when I'm free. This looks like a scam to me. The government wants us to be dumb little slaves, compliantly, and feel so empty when I'm free. Vaccinate. Wear a mask. So we know. I think you're going to try another scam-demic. They've tested positive, because of course, they're doing what they're told to do, like good little drones. And they're testing maniacally with these at-home dumbass tests. But who knows if it's COVID or flu or RSV or Or what used to happen, we get the back to school cold.

Starting point is 03:14:48 Everybody had it. Now this looks like a scam to me. No agenda, just help me see. They charge us all politically. And it feels so empty. Are we free? This looks like a scam to me. No agenda, just help me see.

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