No Agenda - 1593 - "Beast Train"

Episode Date: September 24, 2023

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This is what broadcasting has become. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, September 24th, 2023. This is your award-winning give on Asian media, Assassination, episode 1593. This is no agenda. We're all out of room, and we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country

here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where everybody notices that they steal material from us, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Uh-oh, do we have another theft report? I got a three-part clip.

Oh, well, a three-part clip of them, of them, whoever them is, stealing. Sky News, Australia. Sky News, stealing from us. Please know that it gives me no great pleasure to report this, but this week the world got an up-close look at Joe Biden, and it appears that he really is coming apart before our eyes. The occasion for this examination was the annual meeting of the UN General Assembly in New York, when the world's leaders gather at that great temple of uselessness that is the United Nations to put on a show to convince the rest of us they know what they're doing. So already, they're stealing our setup.

Phoebe! Yes, I know, it's Sky News Australia. They're thieves. Yeah, I don't blame her for barking. Me neither. Good luck with that. And of course, leading the pack here was our man Joe Biden. Here he was addressing the leaders of the globe. And I tell you what, I feel pretty bad for some of the folks who are doing simultaneous translations. Now, as we involve our institutions and drive creative new partnerships, let me be clear. Certain principles are in the national system are sacrosanct. Certain principles, your guess is as good as mine.

Then there was this little meeting with the president of Brazil, which played out more like a hearing aid commercial you might hear on talkback radio. Wow. And to say to President Biden, can you hear me, President Biden? This is a historical moment for Brazil and for the U.S. Are you there, President Biden? It's me, Margaret. Biden, of course, forgot to shake the Brazilian president's hand to his great delight. Not. And then there was this bizarre moment when, meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Joe Biden made the sign of the cross. I've checked it over 40 years, and our friendship goes a long way and can take us a long way. I'm sorry, let's just see that again. This is just it's just all too weird. I don't know. Faith and Magora note that it is also in this meeting that Bibi Netanyahu

spoke off the cuff. Well, Biden, of course, needed those note cards he always holds on to to speak because, well, we know what happens when he goes off script yeah you know except we do it in less time than these guys no this is the point this is actually a well-structured shaggy dog story the punch lines in clip three but it's a shaggy dog story and you'll see how it's structured at the very end just go to two meanwhile kamala Harris, the woman whose mere existence as vice president makes the Secret Services job so easy, well, she's just making friends everywhere she goes. You know, when we think about minority small business owners, and let's be more specific about Latino small business owners, yes, it is restaurants, but it is so much

more. So basically there, if you read between the lines, Kamala Harris thinks that Latinos just don't taco stands or something, I guess, which means that when she saw Jill Biden call Mexicans breakfast burritos at one time, she was just thinking, hold my beer. Now, at this point, I got to wonder, is this whole shambling, stuttering, clumsy Biden routine? I mean, look, it's declined, but maybe it's not. Could it be that there's something else entirely going on? Sometimes I think maybe he's actually putting on an act so people underestimate him or don't realize that he's the mastermind of this whole huge sort of behind the scenes operation. I don't know, maybe Joe Biden is playing it up like a cry for help.

So the political pressure builds to allow him to gracefully retire rather than be forced to keep doing the job to please Jill or whomever it is. I don't know. I know where this is leading. I know where this is leading. And the funny thing, a classic shaggy dog story, and you do them once in a while on the show. You do the veer off things, usually two or three of them. And the Kamala Harris material's got nothing to do with anything.

But that's what you do when you do a Shaggy Dog to kind of keep the person interested by trying it by making semi interesting little asides. But here's the part where they steal our material. Sometimes, just sometimes, this whole thing reminds me a little bit of the old New York City mobster, Vincent the Chin Giganti, who for years threw off the authorities by putting on a public act

suggesting he was, in fact, just himself a harmless, shuffling, mentally ill wanderer, when, in fact, he was a criminal masterminduffling, mentally ill wanderer, when in fact he was a criminal mastermind in charge of a whole criminal enterprise. Former member of the Lucchese crime family, John Panisi, explained this a bit more here. Besides taking trips to psychiatric hospitals, Chin was known to wander around Greenwich Village unshaven, wearing pajamas, a bathrobe and house slippers, muttering gibberish.

He talked to telephone poles and parking meters and urinate at will in the street. And at times randomly dropped to his knees and cross himself. Randomly making the sign of the cross, you say? Yeah, sure. It's just a coincidence. You mean he actually does a call back? They stole from you is what you're saying. You mean they stole from you is what you're saying.

But I admire the structure of what they did, especially with the callback to the sign of the cross, which Giganti, I guess, supposedly did. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. That part I'd never heard. Yeah. And Biden does it all the time. Dude, that show, I mean, he was right in clip one.

It's just all a show. I'm so tired of the show. It's all a show. It's a show. No. And maybe, you know, maybe, maybe it will get better. Let me see maybe it will get better when this gets taken care of where am i here yes oh my the hollywood writers union plans to meet with producers for a third straight day as a source tells nbc that they are inching toward a deal

to end the nearly five month long strike. Four studio heads joined the talks for a second day yesterday, staying late. It was a 10 hour marathon session. Progress was reported in areas such as the use of artificial intelligence and residuals. However, some significant issues still remain. So even if the writer's strike is resolved, the studio still have to reach a contract deal with the union actors. And they walked out in mid July. And no one noticed. And no one cared.

No one. No one is complaining. Well, we had one complaint. We had one complaint from a producer, a dad who said, oh, I sure hope my my son's one's a producer and one's an editor can go back to work. That's the only person who's complained about it. No one cares. Well, anyone involved would complain, but they don't listen to our show. But it's a tipping point.

That's what this is. There's tipping points about, about, tipping points everywhere. We're at peak Ukraine war. We're at peak M5M. Nobody cares. And I think, oh, no no i have to remind myself every single time you know we're we're heads down in this stuff we're we're examining and over examining and re-examining what the media is doing what what they're trying to say what the what you know

it's the elite messaging system is trying to communicate but But most people, you know, go to work, you know, drive the bus, drive the forklift, you know, whatever, drive the plane, fly the plane, go to the office. And then, you know, they may catch some news from time to time. And depending on what bubble they're in, they'll hear this or that, you know, something about this or something about that, you know, whatever the topic is. Okay, they're living their lives hear this or that you know something about this or something about that you know whatever the topic is okay they're living their lives so it takes and we concluded this on the last episode it takes a long time before people start to figure stuff out like covid for instance you know i think people now there's a number of people who are never going to reach but people like you know you know i'm steering more and more about how that stuff

didn't work and now they're bringing it back and yeah i'm questioning and i would say worldwide at this moment everybody is slowly waking up and going hold on a second who are all these people in our country? Every single country. I have story after story after story of asylum seekers and the issues that they've brought. And Europe, France, Lampedusa, Italy, Germany. The president said we've reached our limit of migrant intake maloney no more no more in lumpedusa um sweden it's like we have gang warfare we can't have this anymore what is going on france french interior minister gerald darman now arrived in rome on France. against human traffickers and to send a joint address to the EU leadership on the matter. Because there's been so much politicization of this, that politicians need short fixes,

they need slogans back to say we are on top of it. It doesn't work like that. We have to explain to public opinion that these are complex issues that require time, resources, and different solutions. But that's the only way. Italy in particular has tightened measures, including increasing the time for which suspects involved in human trafficking can be detained and investigated, as well as more opportunities to repatriate those who have no legal right to stay in the country. It is so bad in Europe,

and especially in France, which has been going on for decades now, so bad they had to bring in the big guy. Pope Francis has urged European states to welcome migrants and not to treat them as invaders. He delivered his message ahead of a Saturday mass in the French city of Marseille. The Pope used his visit to the Mediterranean port city to weigh into the migrant debate as governments react to a surge in new arrivals. Tens of thousands turned out for Pope Francis' Marseilles Mass. Worshippers packed the sports stadium for his sermon where the message proved political as well as spiritual. The pontiff used his two-day visit to advocate for refugees and migrants.

He's urging European governments to welcome people arriving on their shores. Our metropolitan cities and many European countries like France, where different cultures and religions coexist, are a great challenge against the exasperations of individualism and the selfishness and closures that produce loneliness and suffering. Recent weeks have seen a sharp increase in migrant boats trying to cross the Mediterranean to reach Europe. The Pope's plea to welcome those arrivals goes against the policies of many EU governments. But his message has resonated with worshipers in marseille a port city which has long been a meeting point for cultures and religions the guardian just for the pope to do that it's like oh okay

perhaps a communist yeah well yes he he's a Jesuit from Argentina. Now we know why he's in there. This is his job now. Oh, no, everything's okay. Love your neighbor. Not really your neighbors, but okay. Now they are. They weren't your neighbors when they came in.

I don't want to say anything bad about the Pope, but, I mean, come on. Well, you already have. Well, this is not. What? This guy is a part of the entire Marxist revolution that's taking place right before our eyes. A redistribution of wealth by bringing in every poor person in the world you can find. Yes. He changed the entire Catholic Church system church system in china everyone's gone underground many catholics i i communicate with like no we don't like this guy but uh serbian

police step up migration patrols on the border with hungary uh the guardian writes migration Guardian writes, migration could be dissolving force for the EU. There's always a bright side. The Home Office in the UK has determined, hey, you know, if we have migrants coming in, they have to have at minimum a three-star hotel. So people are getting angry. And this has been going on for over a decade. February 2011, David Cameron. This is a clip that we played back then. Who remembers him saying this? What I'm about to say is drawn from the British experience, but I believe there are general lessons for us all. In the UK, some young men find it hard to identify with the traditional Islam practiced at home by their parents, whose customs can seem staid when transplanted to

modern, western countries. But these young men also find it hard to identify with Britain too, because we've allowed the weakening of our collective identity. Under the doctrine of state multiculturalism, we've encouraged different cultures to live separate lives apart from each other and apart from the mainstream. We've failed to provide a vision of society to which they feel they want to belong. We've even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run completely counter to our values. And this is Cameron over the UK. It might as well have been about Germany, about Sweden, about anywhere in France. So when a white person holds objectionable views, racist views, we rightly condemn them.

Getting there. But when equally unacceptable... I mean, I'm getting to those clips. That's next. ...views or practices come from someone who isn't white. We've been too cautious, frankly, frankly, even fearful to stand up to them. So this is the speech where he winds up by saying multiculturalism has failed. That was in 2011. And now now people because now who's going to listen to that guy in 2011?

If you're just doing your job and you got a family and you're you're trying to live life. Now people are starting who's going to listen to that guy in 2011 if you're just doing your job and you've got a family and you're trying to live life? Now people are starting to see it. And even Chicago, the big sanctuary city, is now seeing what's really going on. As the city looks to move migrants to tent cities, this new contract reveals Chicago has agreed to to pay guard a world 29 million dollars so this is for the winter base camp that we've been talking about the past couple of episodes and without any vote or anything the mayor just says hey yeah you guys come on it this guard a world it's security company they have no experience with uh migrants refugees, asylum seekers, human beings. All they do is different types of security, even showbiz personality security.

This is not their wheelhouse. Even the mayor's point person for migrants on the city council says. I do recognize that an executive branch has the latitude to be agile in a moment of crisis. So I get myself in stuff most quickly. But clearly, we all have questions. The fine print of the deal reveals Garta will provide security, three meals a day, daily child care, seven days a week,

van transport to school and doctor, as well as laundry. This is the same company, bud. This is the same company that they hired to bus asylum seekers into chicago he notes garda is considered a preferred contractor by the state of illinois this is a contract that the state has started they use them for various purposes and like busing migrants into the state they're continuing to and so we piggybacked on it the The city of Denver pulled out of a deal it had to build similar tent provisions for migrants, citing, quote, concerns grew about the international

company's history of alleged abuses and mistreatment, as well as its lack of experience in sheltering migrants. Alderman Ray Lopez questions why Garda, the same company that has a Florida contract to send migrants here, now will make millions to care for them. The fact that we're spending $29 million on a tent city system that probably won't even function in sub-zero weather Chicago style is just amazing to me. The contract also displays photos of what the base camps will look like, with promises when the temperature is 40 degrees it will be 70 degrees inside john you've lived in chicago is 40 degrees a typical chicago winter no isn't it more like 20 degrees more like zero so if it's going to be 40 degrees and then inside will be 70 what's it going to be when it's zero also today elected officials and activists reacted to the Biden administration

to allow some migrants, those from Venezuela, here since July, to apply for work permits. They want that extended to more than just them. The city does estimate that of the 14,000 migrants sent here, 5,000 are from Venezuela. All right, so this is, I don't, this is very interesting. All of a sudden, oh, Venezuelans are okay. Huh? How did this happen? Something switched and it has nothing to do with the cities. As you can even hear in this short clip from New York City Mayor Eric Adams,

he doesn't even think that the president's coming to town, won't even meet with him. President Biden is coming to the city. The president's coming to town, won't even meet with him. President Biden is coming to the city. I am hoping that he understands this beautiful city. That's the economic engine of the entire country. What? Is New York the economic engine of the entire country?

I think they're probably putting all their eggs in the financial basket. You can make the argument. Wall Street. Okay. Probably putting all their eggs in the financial basket, you can make the argument. Wall Street is being saddled with a $2 billion that we spent already, $5 billion we're going to spend in this fiscal crisis, $12 billion in the next two budgetary cycles. New York don't deserve this. The asylum seekers don't deserve this. And so while he's here, I think that they should really reflect on New York City has done its part. And once we know what I'm going to do, we release a public schedule. I'm very public.

Everybody knows who I am. You guys know who I am all the time. I'm here. We're released if we're going to be with the president or not. President, you know I'm here. I got the schedule. You can meet me anytime you want. No, he's been sidelined hokal is in charge of this operation and an op it is because new york

city has had this pulled this 40 year old right to shelter people have come to new york city and that's another area the mayor and i need to look at this together and we are looking at it and trying to figure out a way that we can say this was intended to help homeless people stay off the streets help families but it was never intended to be an unlimited universal right and obligation to shelter the entire world and that's the way it's been interpreted so once that gets fixed as well as this opportunity to get the venezuelans to work it should take a lot of pressure off but we really need to stop the incoming we're still seeing about 3 000000 a week. That's absolutely unsustainable.

So I want to get back to Hochul in a moment. But something happened. There was a switch. It must have happened months ago. And word went out, Venezuelans, come on in. Deteriorating conditions in Latin America made worse by the COVID-19 pandemic has increased the number of people crossing into the United States from Mexico. Venezuela and Rodrigo Diaz made it to the Mexican border city of Juarez on Friday.

He is just happy to be alive after riding the Beast train, a dangerous freight train that migrants take to the border. We were all just living off mustard because we didn't have any food and later I had to sell my shoes so I could eat. But there is hope. The Biden administration has announced that they would allow hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans already in the United States to live and work legally. Washington is also pressuring Mexico to do more to stem the flow of immigration. On Tuesday, Mexico's main railway company temporarily suspended the Beast train because so many migrants are climbing aboard and getting hurt in the process. So this Beast train, reminiscent of trains in India, everybody hanging off of it. So somewhere something happened and this is a setup.

This is a setup and New York york is going to suffer but new yorkers are going to suffer because of all of a sudden and we they were telegraphing this when aoc was out there in front of the roosevelt the roosevelt hotel which i mean i've i love the reports about the roosevelt hotel the luxury roosevelt hotel okay no if you if you've ever stayed in the roosevelt hotel it's far from luxurious but it's now it's now asylum seeker central notice the subtle switch from migrants to asylum seekers and for some reason we've decided half a million venezuelans will be able to stay here and work here and as AOC was saying I guess a path to citizenship luckily New York One got Hochul on the phone

this is the local New York television station and I have a couple of clips maybe we can figure out what is going on here thanks for being here with us on this busy Wednesday night. I'm Cheryl Wills and we begin with breaking news as we come on the air out of Washington. The Biden administration announcing just moments ago that it will make hundreds of thousands of Venezuelan migrants eligible for legal status and work permits. It will impact nearly a half million asylum seekers. More than 40% of migrants who have come through the city since the immigration crisis began are Venezuelan. Mayor Adams responding tonight saying, I want to thank President Biden for hearing our entire coalition, including our hardworking congressional delegation, delegation and taking this important step that will bring hope to the thousands of venezuelan asylum seekers currently in our care who will now be immediately eligible for temporary protected

status what happened in venezuela that all of a sudden we had to let them in to come here and work do you have any idea well it was it was their government that bankrupted the state, the Maduro regime, and communist government that drove all these people, the middle class of Venezuela, drove them into poverty. And I think we allowed them to come in because we tried to overturn that government, if you don't remember that, just a few years ago yeah with that skinny guy who is useless and um and so i think somewhere along the line we we told him to open the spigot yeah you can come in that's the only thing i can think of i don't i think it's a huge mistake for the democrats because these people can easily become republicans well listen to these next

few clips of hokal as she talks about why this has to happen governor thank you for your time tonight we understand this new tps status that tps status is typically um for uh see we have tps status and it's always limited by the way it's always a limitation we had it for Haitians after the earthquake I think that's just been extended extended extended um there's been other TPS but this this is a I always thought it referred to the TPS report it's being made available yeah that'd be great to Venezuelan migrants and asylum seekers is a result of your conversation with President Biden yesterday. Can you give us some insight into that conversation?

Well, this is something that the president knows we have been asking for back from July of 2022 between myself and Mayor Adams and Major Leader Schumer and Senator Gillibrand and our delegation. Okay. So all of the New Yorkers, Schumer, Gillibrand, they've been asking for this since 2022 to have Venezuelans come in and work here instead of, I don't know, New Yorkers? We have all been working so hard to persuade the White House that these individuals who came to this country and are living in new york city shelters don't have to they came here to work that's not what asylum is about asylum is for very specific circumstances not work that's a work migrant that's not an asylum seeker and if we can find a path, particularly for the Venezuelans, which is about 40 percent of the population in our shelters,

if they can get temporary protective status that allows them to work after 30 days instead of after 180, we can start to clear out the shelters and give them the jobs. And it also serves the purpose of meeting this demand we have from Republicans in every corner of New York. What? Serving the purpose of Republicans, the demands of Republicans? Am I hearing this correct? That's what it sounded like, but it can't be it. We can start to clear out the shelters and give them the jobs.

And it also serves the purpose of meeting this demand we have from Republicans in every corner of New York for more workers. So the Republicans in every corner of New York want more workers and the demands are met by bringing in Venezuelans who have temporary protective status. I don't know. She tried to say something else. She couldn't possibly. That sentence makes zero sense. The one thing, why do they do anything to the demands

of any Republican? The only way I can interpret it, and we have another clip after this, is that she means Republicans who have, you know, need workers. I mean, forget, even if we take away the Republican part, aren't there New Yorkers who want to work? Aren't there people from other states who want to work and will move to New York to work? It's got to be just a, it's like a typo. So this is an important step.

I thank the president for answering our call for help. This is an important first step. We have other requests still out there, no doubt about it. And we'll continue those conversations.

But the state is committed to continue to work with Mayor Adams to ensure that these people are connected to jobs as soon as they legally can be able to work. So we're I mean, this is what has to have happened.

When we did that foul up in Venezuela, where we try to overturn Maduro and bring in the Obama guy. And bring in the Obama. Exactly. That's right. That's the guy who looked like Obama, that guy. He kind of acted like it. And we just pretended that he was the president for a while, too. We just pretended like it. And we pretended he was the president. We had to have to get support.

Ah, now you're talking. Our State Department had to do deals. We'll let all your prisoners. We'll back you up. Don't worry. If anything bad happens, you can come here. We'll give you a job. Yeah.

Send your prisoners here. Open up the floodgates. Well, Governor Hochul is excited. And I'm really excited about this opportunity to start making a dent in something that New Yorkers have been dealing with a long time. And I want to make sure that we can ensure they're able to work. And we've been saying, get them to work. Let them work. This has been our...

How many New Yorkers have been saying this? Get them to... We need Venezuelans. We need Venezuelans to work. Get them to work. Our railing cry for such a long time in the business community, Kathy Wild... There she says, it's been a cry in the business community. Our railing cry for such a long time in the business community, Kathy Wild. There she says, it's been a cry in the business community.

Cry for such a long time in the business community. Kathy Wild and the partnership stepped up. Our friends in labor have been extremely helpful. All across New York, many people just want them to be able to work and fill a huge void we have right now.

The fact that thousands and thousands of jobs, 460,000 jobs are unfilled. Okay. One of my stepdaughters is in New York. It's not like... 460,000? Jobs are not for the just picking up everywhere. It's not true.

I mean, waitress, even jobs serving food. They're not like a dime a dozen. So I, you know, I don't know about the rest of New York state, but 460,000 jobs are, we're just, we can't wait to get people to work.

They're dead. It's like they're hanging there for the easy picking. Yeah. Thousands and thousands of jobs, 460,000 jobs are unfilled in the state of New York right now. We have a low unemployment rate, one of the lowest in the nation. We have to have more workers,

and this is going to be a very, very positive development for our state's economy, for these individuals, and our desire to start not opening more shelters, but starting to shut down shelters. All right, so now we're going to start.

Everyone, you're not Venezuelan. You're out. I'm going to kick you out. And right, so now we're going to start. Everyone, you're not Venezuelan. You're out. I'm going to kick you out. And where are you going to go? Well, Governor Hochul knows. And Governor, what's your message to the tens of thousands of asylum seekers and migrants who are not from Venezuela,

who may be disappointed that they're not included? Go pound sand. Well, this is something that we're just happy to even get this foot in the door. We have been asking for a reduction in time for all the work status for everyone. Wait, stop. What kind of a metaphor is it?

We're just getting a foot in it. What foot in what door? How do you answer a question like that? What are you going to do? Here's the question. What are you going to do about all these other people that aren't Venezuelans? Well, this is getting a foot in the door. Foot in what door? What are you talking about? The foot in

the door of replacing Americans with asylum seekers for work is the only logical explanation. Oh, I'm sorry. Did I just give you the big replacement theory like europe well this is something that we're just happy to even get this foot in the door we have been asking for a reduction in time for all the work status for everyone oh there it is we want everybody who comes in seeking asylum to be given jobs. And we'll connect them with jobs.

But I will not look a gift horse in the mouth. This is an important first step. And to others, we have to let people know that if you're thinking of coming to New York, we are truly out of space. The mayor has done. Wait, stop. They're out of space, but they get plenty of space. The mayor has done... Wait, wait, stop. They're out of space, but they got plenty of jobs. I know. How do you have 400, you know,

almost a half a million jobs and you're out of space? So how are you supposed to... That makes zero sense what she just said. Well, because... You're coming to New York, we're out of space. So I'm a tourist. I can't find a hotel room. Probably not.

No, you can't because the cheapest hotel, the Roosevelt is filled with asylum seekers. It's right there. I wouldn't stay there anyway, but I have stayed there and reeks of weed. And to others, we have to let people know that if you're thinking of coming to New York, we are truly out of space. The mayor has done an extraordinary job managing this crisis situation. We have been partners in helping him. But there must be other cities. Oh, that's the solution.

There must be other cities. Attention, attention, other cities. We've got some asylum seekers coming your way that do not have upwards of 125 000 people over 60 000 in shelters that can handle the volume easier in other states and that's what we want to stop it again yeah sure i have to point something out somebody pointed one of our producers pointed this out according to abbott you know they're blaming him for shipping all these people all over the place. But according to, now this could be wrong, but I'm sure it's closer to right than not. According to him, he's been shipping people to Chicago and here and there all over the place.

His total headcount supposedly to New York is just over 10,000. Yeah, I heard 16,000. Yeah. Okay, let's say it's 16,000. They've got 100,000 there. Where did all these other ones, how did they get shipped there? Biden. Yes.

Blame Abbott and the Texans. It's bull crap. They got nothing, very little to do with it. 19 seconds left. They do not have upwards of 125,000 people or 60,000 in shelters that can handle the volume easier in other states. And that's what we want to encourage people to do. This has a cutoff date. This has a, there's a time limit on it. So the people that are here will be able to benefit. But those who come after have to understand that it's a different dynamic here in New York, that we have been generous. We have been humanitarian in our response.

That's who we are. That's who we are. We're at capacity. So now it all comes home to roost and i'm i'm i'm very i am truly i sad for these people who get on the beast train and who've traveled here under great duress and they're in gondolas it looks like they're headed to auschwitz and in a way they kind of are i mean it's you're going from the fat into the fire i have seen this happen in europe for over 25 years remember i moved back in 1999 it's almost 25 years the and the netherlands was never an immigration country we are an

immigration country in america but this asylum seekers is different you want to come into america please go through the process so that has just been ignored and stimulated. And the United Nations, the UMA, I think, United Nations Migrant Agency, they're the ones that are helping people, giving them debit cards. I mean, this is a globalist takeover. And finally, people are starting to see it. And it's here, too. Nobody's seeing it.

Are you nuts? No, no. This is what I started my preamble by saying. I know what you said. Yes, people are seeing it now. The Texans have seen it for a long time. And finally, people are going, hey, I mean, here in Fredericksburg. But El Paso, in other border towns, no.

This is going to explode. And I don't know about New York, but there's a number. Chicago seems on edge now, on edge, and people are not going to stand for it. And, I mean, this has to end. It will end one way or the other, but I don't think anyone in America is going to let it come to Swedish proportions. That's why we have guns,

which is why they're trying to take them away, of course. But this, you know, COVID, all this other stuff, people can disagree, but now you're seeing across the political spectrum and probably extreme left and extreme right are bonding together on these things. Like, uh-huh, hold on, we got to stop. Okay.

You said you had some immigration stuff from the last episode. I thought you would have those, but you would be- Oh, I'd probably have to go back to the last episode list. Yeah, I didn't move them over. What do I have? Yeah, you said you had something. Yeah, I do.

This is basically the cost of immigration hearings. You can look it up as cost of immigration hearings, C-O-S-T. Okay, yes. And I'm not spelling spelling because he can't because adam can't spell it's because i have to spell these things out because half the time i'll spell something and in fact in this case i got capital o i have to spell it out because i tend to typo to the to a max well it's it's okay from episode to episode but you know five years from now i'd be like what was that cliff problem lawmakers expressed contrasting opinions during

the house committee on homeland securities hearing called the financial cost of mayorkas's open border on wednesday lawmakers examined the cost of the millions of illegal immigrants crossing into the United States. This crisis has cost Texas $5 billion last year, $5 billion this year, $9 to $10 billion next year. Lawmakers also expressed how the issue is impacting citizens. In Brooks County, Texas, Sheriff Benny Martinez has said that county officials took pay cuts in order to afford the cost of burying or cremating illegal aliens found deceased on the U.S. side of the border. Man. Think about that.

Wait, can't we just turn them into mulch? We're going to make them mulch. I had to stop Eclipse there because. We need to make them mulch. Yeah, what happened to that idea? Mulch them. That's bull crap. I don't believe that for a minute.

Uh, that's bullcrap. I don't believe that for a minute. I'm going to take a pay cut so I can, uh, cremates, uh, you know, these corpses that are here. There's got to be funding for that. I mean, who is this? What was the source of this news story? No. What is this?

Uh, yeah. It was about Texas. some guys in Texas. Just play the end of it again, you'll see what I mean. Hold on a second. Here we go. Are cremating illegal aliens found deceased? In order to afford the cost of burying or cremating illegal aliens found deceased on the U.S. side of the border. Think about that. They took a pay cut

just to bury the dead found at the border. This is just show business for ugly people. Oh yeah, think about that. When someone says, think about that, you're trying to tell people create the image in your mind people taking pay cuts because

they're so humanitarian. Yeah, there's some some some. That's what I said. It's bull crap. But let's go into clip two. One of the witnesses shared details about the situation in Yuma, Arizona. We have seen women approaching the border in labor. I've witnessed that multiple times.

This is also just all show. Just, you know, bringing the human aspect. Oh, it's disgusting. To the point where our emergency room and our maternity ward was overrun. Some lawmakers pointed to New York City, Eric Adams, recent comments on the immigration crisis, which took center stage at the hearing. Never in my life have I had a problem that I did not see an end to. I don't see an end to this. I don't see an end to this. This issue will destroy New York City. Destroy New York City. Adams recently said New York City is expected to spend about $5 billion this year and $6 billion next year to provide for the immigrants. And a Mississippi congressman tried to put the cost in perspective.

So the information you have provided to us says that New York will spend next year almost as much money as the entire state of Mississippi spends to fund our entire state government. But Democrats at the hearing said the immigrants are helping with the labor shortage. And Representative Delia Ramirez said one day without immigrants would cause the U.S. economy to collapse. Yet we want to talk about how much they're costing us. Here's the thing. Work permits, immigration reform reform there it is adequate

visa so that people don't have to come here illegally these are all solutions that work to make this country the country of american dream the country of freedom and the country of the future oh the country of the future. Well, this was what America has always been, but you're supposed to come in through. I mean, I have helped many people come in legally. Well, they're just going to go to California here for a second. Yes. We used to have a program. Oh, it's so bad because the liberals were against it, even though they're all for this, which was called the Bracero Program.

The Bracero Program. Yeah, so the Bracero, this ended in, I don't know, I think it ended in Reagan's governorship. I'm not sure when it ended. But it just ended because the liberals were all against it, even though they're okay with what's going on now. The Bracero program was buses and buses of agricultural workers that were bussed up from Mexico and kept up in the fields, in the wineries, in the cabbage fields, the lettuce fields, the tomato fields, and kept there in kind of too lousy housing.

And then at the end of the season, the growing season, the Braceros would be bussed back to Mexico. Everybody was happy as a clam with this idea. Didn't this end with Operation Wetback? Wasn't that what, you know, it's like, all right, it's trying to send y'all back. Like 3 million they sent back? No, they've always sent the Braceros back.

To address the overwhelming account of undocumented migrants in the united states the immigration and naturalization service launched operation wet back in june of 1954 as a way to repatriate illegal laborers back to mexico so this is that's not the bracero program it's well it's under the bracero wiki page i'm not saying it's correct but it's the bracero program got out of control i think that's what happened well if 54 wasn't the peak of the bracero it may have later this was 57 operation wetback was 57 it may have later but i do i vaguely remember the whole thing being it was fine well yeah we we i believe that we had agricultural people go down to the border and say you you just like home depot but yeah now you don't have to go so far right like you you exactly you you you poop come on in you

stay three months and we send you back and they took their money back but now it's like there's no agriculture in new york per se that i'm aware of it to the you know like the wineries and the avocados and the and the nut trees a lot of growing in new york of what weed they grow to everything they have a season and they have an agricultural season it's a little limited it's but they grow everything that we grow in california more or less do you think that those 450 the half a million venezuelans are all going to be in agriculture well i didn't even consider that not until you just mentioned it that's that would be ironic wouldn't it no only mexicans let me sound like camila harris is this a kicker you have on this clip here?

Maybe. Recently, a video went viral that showed migrants riding on Mexican cargo trains heading to the United States. Now that Mexican freight company has temporarily stopped 60 trains because thousands of migrants had been hitching rides to the u.s border i love the name the beast train i love that name what's interesting about that train is that just this was just revealed like a within the last week or so this train is not a new train no it's been around for a while it's probably been moving people because you always everyone wonders how people get from. From Guatemala and then it's as if they walk the whole way through, you know, all of Mexico, which is quite a haul, thousands of miles to get to the border and all these poor people. Well, they're all jumping on this train and it's been going on for a decade or longer and not reported on. Thank you, media. So here's part of the problem you know they're saying well i mean uh so we've you know we've had the un general

assembly you know for the whole past week and it's all it's all been about climate change climate change all about climate change everything climate change and and one of the lies that is being um that the media tries to slip in which doesn't't really work, but they're trying to do it, is these are climate change refugees. No, they're not. We've heard this. We can't get away with that. No, they're not. But even if we want it to be agriculture, the elites are speaking against themselves. are, what's the term?

They're speaking against themselves. They're contradicting themselves to an incredible degree. And it's a shorty, but I have to bring in the climate czar who spoke this week, John Kerry, and he's very clear. We can't have agriculture. So I don't know what all these people are going to do in agriculture because we'll be eating bugs.

Agriculture contributes about 33% of all the emissions of the world. Just so you know, it's 33%. Depending a little bit on how you count it, but it's anywhere from 26 to 33. Oh, I'm sorry. Depending on how you calculate it, what does that even mean, watermelon?

It's between 26 and 33. well, that's almost 10%. And we can't get to net zero. We don't get this job done unless agriculture is front and center as part of the solution. But with a growing population on the planet, we just crossed the threshold of eight billion fellow citizens around the world We just crossed that in this last year emissions from the food system alone Are projected to cause another half a degree of warming. Oh, no By mid-century on the current course that we are today. Okay, so with the agriculture we have We're going to burn to death.

So we need to do something. A two-degree future? Uh-oh. What is a two-degree future? Oh, no. Could result in an additional 600 million people not getting enough to eat. But takes care of itself then, doesn't it? Well, you'd think.

It's like your old peak oil argument, if you remember's like yeah we uh we have too much agriculture too many people so if we keep on going we'll have less people sounds like nature and you just can't continue to both warm the planet while also expecting to feed it okay so we can't have agriculture while expecting to feed it. Oh, okay. So we can't have agriculture while expecting to feed people with agriculture. This is literally what he's saying. The guy is off the rails. And he has such a lizard tongue, which, as we know, the CIA

has this darting in and out constantly of what he's eating while he's talking. Well, what that means, the CIA interrogation handbook says when someone sticks their tongue out while they're speaking, that means they're spitting out a lie. You know, it's BS. And he's doing this. And he does have a lizard pointy tongue.

It's disgusting. Doesn't work. So we have to reduce emissions from the food system to keep the 1.5 degrees alive. Why do we have to keep 1.5 degrees alive? Because scientists. Ah, here we go. Why, why, why do we have to keep under that 1.5 degree of warming? Because scientists. As a basis of physics and mathematics. Which is physics and mathematics. Not ideology and politics or party labels or anything else. It's a matter of physics and mathematics

and some biology and chemistry. Oh, some biology. Wait a minute. Science is physics, mathematics, some biology and chemistry. They told us these are the consequences and we already see it happening. And almost everything they've

predicted for 30 plus years now it's been wrong wait wait wait i want to i want everybody to hear him say this because it's great glances and we already see it happening and almost everything they've predicted for 30 plus years now is coming true but the problem is it's coming through faster and bigger than was in fact predicted. So not only for the past 30 years has everything come true, but it's been coming true faster than they ever predicted. Faster, I say. Well, let's think about this.

Let's go back to 1978 and listen to Mr. Spock, Leonard Nimoy, with his famous climate change documentary. Climate experts believe the next ice age is on its way. According to recent evidence, it could come sooner than anyone had expected. At weather stations in the far north, temperatures have been dropping for 30 years. Sea coasts long free of summer ice are now blocked year-round. According to some climatologists, within a lifetime,

we might be living in the next ice age. Well, John, both you and I were alive in 1978. Within our lifetime, have we come into the ice age? I haven't seen anything change and no agenda episode 358 let's go back and listen what we were talking about more than 10 years ago we can't really bring up the fact that you know it's everyone's freezing their ass off in the uk where are we supposed to have no snow ever again children would only know snow globes and they would know movies with snow. That's what they said. And we have that clip that proves that.

And by the way, if there's so much record heat every year, why are there only two days left of natural gas? The record heat, or was it snow? I don't know. In 1960ss we knew paul erlich who is still

still around and still working for the white house told us very clearly there's too many people this kid this has within 10 years it's we're gonna reach a tipping point. The U.S. could be busting out at the seams by the end of the century. If we do not, by humane means, limit our numbers, then numbers are going to be limited by more famines and shortages and consequent social conflicts. The idea that human population was outstripping the Earth's ability to support mankind was a powerful one. And it was one man, Stanford biologist Paul Ehrlich, population growth will kill you stone cold dead, who pushed the dramatic message home. If we continue to let population grow, and if we continue to exploit the underdeveloped countries, if we continue to pollute the seas with a wide variety of compounds and so on,

it's very difficult for me to picture things holding together for more than another decade or so oh so by 1980 we should have been in dire straits and dead and completely gone but oh all these predictions and we already see it happening and almost everything they've predicted for 30 plus years now is coming true but the problem is it's coming through faster and bigger than was in fact bullshit. Yes. Come on. The funny thing about Arrowlike is a book that he did after they did the population bomb, which is the race bomb. Skin color, prejudice, and intelligence. Of course.

These people are out. These are the racists. I mean, now we even have, oh, goodness, I forgot to clip it. There was a woman on C-SPAN, and she called in and she says, watermelons are exploding from climate change. And it turns out there's some subpar shipment of watermelons, and if you leave them out in the heat, you know, they start to ferment on the inside. Oh, yeah, that can happen.

Yeah, that can happen, but it's not like global warming is making watermelons explode. It reminds me of, okay, I got to do this now. This is, because this has to stop. We are here as conspiracy therapists to help you and I'm going to help you. And I'm going to help you in a very specific way.

So this has not stopped. And I think this guy, Jason Schurka, may be ground zero of what is absolutely in medical documentation. Radio frequency activated nanoliposomes can be used for controlled combination drug delivery. There's, what is this article? Sound waves power new advances in drug delivery and smart materials. You know, they've been using ultrasonic waves to kill cancer cells for quite a while now, although you don't hear much

about it because god forbid we solve something we'd rather keep those people sick but this guy has got a large portion of doom scrollers really riled up i was asked to share the following message with the world remember i'm only the messenger What you choose to do with this information is up to you and your own free will. On October 4th at 2.22 p.m. Eastern Time, the emergency broadcast system will be activated across the entire United States under the leadership of FEMA, disguised as a test. However, this test will be used to send a specific high-frequency signal through devices like smartphones, radios and TVs with the intention of activating graphene oxide and other nanoparticles that have been inserted into billions of human beings around the world through the obvious mediums.

Everyone will be affected regardless of your status. The plan is to also do this in Israel at the same exact time. Yeah. of your status. The plan is to also do this in Israel at the same exact time. There are certain organizations that are doing their best to stop this in both Israel and the United States. Hopefully, they will be able to stop this. And stopping this in Israel looks promising, but stopping this in the United States is still up in the air. This will also include Puerto Rico, Hawaii, and Alaska. If the October 4th date does not occur for any reason, the backup plan will be to do it on October 11th at the same time. In the case that this is not

able to be stopped, I ask you all to shut off your phones and all other relevant devices at 2 p.m. Eastern time for a period of two hours to be safe. This type of wavelength can affect us physically, mentally, and emotionally. I urge you all to protect yourself, and I ask you all to share this video far and wide. Thank you very much. So this has been shared far and wide, including the patent on this technology. Yes, you had a question?

Does he have any clue about how speaker systems work? Well, thank you. So, now this technology, there is real ultrasonic therapies that are being used. It's called, what's it called, sonochemistry. And the frequency range for this to work is 10 kilohertz to three megahertz now i would say and this is what i think you're you're about to say is that most speakers kind of drop off at 22 kilohertz so you're not you're never going to get a tone let's be realistic. 22, if a speaker can attribute, actually hit 22 kilohertz, you got a hell of an expensive speaker on your hands.

Yes, and amp, and amplifier. And, right, you also need the amplifier that can handle that kind of frequency accurately. There's not, people don't have that. Well, just to make sure, I want to inoculate all of the No Agenda producers by activating your nanoparticles. I am going to take it up to 20 kilohertz. This may shorten, this may reduce our audience significantly, John. I'm at 5 kilohertz.

People are starting to get activated. People may be, oh, I think I'm at 5 kilohertz. People are starting to get activated. People may be, oh, I think we're at 8 kilohertz. We're at 9. I think we're about to start killing people, John. We're into 10. I can't hear it anymore. Nanoparticles are being activated from here to Israel. 14, 15, 16, 18, 20 kilohertz.

Are we dead? Are you there? So with my computer speaker system, the drop-off, if you actually were trying to transmit anything beyond five, it really ends at five. You can't, there's nothing coming out. You didn't even get 10?

I could still hear 10. I couldn't hear 10 on these speakers. So I'm looking at the troll room. 10? I could still hear 10. I couldn't hear 10 on these speakers. So, I'm looking at the troll room. I do not see anyone who had death in the room. And many people have made it. Congratulations. You made it. You're safe.

You're safe for the FEMA test. Although some dogs... Some dogs did not like it's another there is another um by the way they need to people need to get on um on social media right now and tell them not to listen to episode 1593 of no agenda because it will kill them it will activate the nanoparticles that have been introduced into their bodies by the obvious means. Yes.

So, supposedly, the tick that was developed in Plum Island to give you a meat allergy. Have you heard this one? Well, I happen to have a conversation about this last one. It was designed to be repelled by a 5G signal. Oh, really? And the tick got out and it's starting to give people these meat allergies, which have ruined, just basically ruined the country. The alpha gal, the alpha gal, the lone star tick alpha gal, yes. The Alpha Gal.

The Alpha Gal. The Lone Star Tick Alpha Gal. Yes. The Lone Star Tick. And so they had to roll out 5G in a hurry to push these ticks away. This one I had not heard. Yeah. I got this at the dinner table from JC who had heard it. And did he believe it?

I don't think so. We had dinner last night with the ER doctor and his wife. And he was quite aware of the alpha-gal adjuvant in vaccines and had some thoughts on that, which disagree with the Pl island 5g idea uh in addition to that i i asked him point blank have you seen an uptick in what we would call vaccine adverse uh events he says oh yeah everybody we know in health care is saying this of course they are they would say if you remember from the very from the get-go when all these nurses were quitting because they would rather quit than get the jab, which is a problem that exists till today, they were hearing, we had those early stories about the bad periods and of when we started introducing these issues to the show. When we first heard about the COVID thing being a bioweapon or at least manufactured or engineered, which was right at the beginning. It was at the very beginning of 2020.

So the fact that it's continuing after billions of shots doesn't surprise anybody. Well, we might as well bring it in now because that's the other thing that is blanketing the mainstream M5M elite messaging system airwaves besides tones that will kill you. How many people are actually getting the COVID vaccine right now? What are you seeing and hearing from patients? I'm hearing a lot of interest from people who are paying attention to headlines, especially those who are high risk. Getting a lot of attention from people who are paying attention to headlines. Listen to what they're saying. I'm hearing a lot of interest from people

who are paying attention to headlines, especially those who are high risk. He's not lying. People who pay attention to headlines and don't read the story, mainly because it's behind a paywall these days. They're like, oh, I saw a headline. So people who have underlying chronic medical disease, their immunocompromised weak immune systems, parents of younger children, and even people who might be hanging out with someone who's above the age of 60 or 65.

Now, we obviously all have our eyes on those numbers from the last booster where less than 20 percent of people who are eligible went out and got it. But a higher percentage of people above the age of 65 did. So right now, what we're looking at right now is an interest of people getting it, but making sure that they have access, they know where to get it, and that they're going to be available to all communities, regardless of socioeconomic status. Yeah, not free, but available to all communities. So now we have a situation where the true owners of the messaging, which is the advertisers, which for television, for mainstream, is the pharmaceutical industry. Just take a look at the ads. They have a triple play now. We've got COVID, we've got flu, and RSV.

In tonight's Health Watch, breaking news. Breaking news! CDC has just approved Pfizer's new vaccine aimed at protecting infants from the respiratory illness RSV. The shot now available in some places is recommended for moms who are 32 to 36 weeks pregnant. Health officials say in the first six months after birth, the vaccine can reduce a baby's risk of RSV hospitalization by 57%. So it's a vaccine. It's the same type of great vaccine that Pfizer has brought to you before. The one that gives you a percentage of protection. They're starting off now at 57%. How is that a vaccine?

How is that a vaccine? Do you remember when you first had that paper that one of these vaccine companies produced. It was 95. What? It was 95% for the COVID. No, no, I'm talking about back in the day when you found a paper that they were presenting to the investors showing that the vaccine's a big moneymaker. Yeah, because you can give medicine to people who aren't sick. Because you can give medicine to people who aren't sick. And so in there, as we discussed this, they were going to do an anti-smoking vaccine.

They were calling things vaccines that weren't vaccines back then. And then when we came to mRNA, which is anything but a vaccine, it's a crapshoot now. Now the idea that a vaccine is to stop something, I don't even think anyone thinks that anymore. Well, if we go to the Today Show, who are the primary promoters of all things pharmaceutical, they're all excited about what Dr. Natalie Azar has to say. We are back with today's checklist. Fall means comfy sweaters and cozy drinks, but it also means we are on alert for flu, COVID, and RSV. John, we're on alert for flu, COVID.

It's that time of the year again. It used to be, hey, we're getting ready for Christmas. We're getting ready for Halloween's around the corner. We've got spice pumpkin lattes. No, no, now it's now. Now we're looking out for flu. We're all getting ready to get sick. COVID and RSV. Now we're looking out for flu. We're all getting ready to get sick.

COVID and RSV. So we have some good news for you this morning. Free at-home COVID tests will be available again starting next week. Free at-home COVID tests. Do you know how many of those tests I've collected so far? About 20. At least 20. I have a box full of them.

Different brands. I've got a whole slew of them because they were giving to me, the pharmacy had a little thing. You pick up a prescription, you want some free COVID test, just ask us. So they give you a bundle of them and then you go back and there's another bundle

and you get the free ones they mailed to you at the beginning from the government, they get the free ones. And you're dropping them off left and right. There's so many of these tests you got a bundle of them well there's got they're coming back there's so again someone's benefiting free tests nbc news medical contributor dr natalie azar is here to walk us through all the vaccines and boosters out there good morning all of the vaccines and the boosters and the nasal sprays

and it's all groovy here to walk us through all the vaccines and boosters out there good morning i got my free uh covid test yesterday i got my i got my free covid test yesterday it says right here in my script i gotta say that so let's start with the flu vaccine yeah let's let's start with that. By the way, one of the trolls did point out the definition of vaccine has changed in the dictionary. No, we noticed it when it happened. It happened on our watch. I know, but I just want to remind everybody that a vaccine is no longer what it was. It's what they said it was going to be 12, 13 years ago when they had a big conference.

It wasn't just smoking. It was cocaine addiction. It was all kinds of stuff. Yeah, I remember the cocaine was a good one. So let's start with the flu vaccine. Let's talk about it. Who needs to get it? When should they get it? All this stuff. Okay, so everybody with a few exceptions

over the age of six months is eligible to get the flu shot. We usually recommend to get it by the end of October. It takes about two weeks for those protective antibodies to kick in. Remember, this was the end of October. This was mask up, mask for Halloween. That's what you have to keep in mind.

Flu season is starting about now and heads into the winter. If you're 65 and older, there's a couple high-dose shots that you are eligible for. Oh, that's what I'm looking for. But the rest of us, in sort of that middle bell curve, it doesn't matter which one you get because there's a lot of different flu shots out there. Hold on. What is this middle bell curve? I like the high dose shot.

Let's kill the old people. These other shots haven't done the job. High dose. High dose. If you're over 65, take the high dose. Don't worry. You'll be mulched before you know it. What about the nasal spray?

Is that better? Right, right. So nasal spray, you know. She's all excited. Right, right, right. Nasal spray. What about the nasal spray? Is that better?

Right, right. So nasal spray, you know, every couple of years we find out, oh, maybe it doesn't work as well as the injectable one. But it is available this year. And it is a great option for little kids. This literally is like selling, oh, the pumpkin spice latte is available this year. Oh, right. It's called the nasal spray. Who are needle phobic. It is indicated for people between

the ages of 2 and 49. But here's the thing. Oh, I miss out. I can't do the nasal spray. There are a couple of exceptions to it. Why not? Because I'm not. Hold on a second. I'm not in the bell curve. What difference does it make? If it works, it works. What is it?

You think the spray goes up your nose and goes, how old is this guy? And that's why we love you, John C. Dvorak. I've vaccine kids between two and 17 who are taking aspirin and other certain medications are not meant to get it. Oh, what? Wait a minute. You can't use the nasal spray if you're taking aspirin and other certain medications are not meant to get it. Oh, what? Wait a minute. You can't use a nasal spray if you're taking aspirin? Well, that's not a good thing for Bayer. It's not a good product

from whoever's pushing the spray. Vaccine. I wouldn't think so, no. It's between 2 and 17 who are taking aspirin and other certain medications are not meant to get it. So if you're 18 and you're taking aspirin, it's okay. I mean, this is confusing. People with weakened immune systems, pregnant people,

and there's a few other on that list. So if you're thinking about getting the nasal spray, check with your doctor just to make sure. Pregnant people. Yeah, good catch. Pregnant people. Okay, thanks. There's more, though.

Because, you know, RSV, now this is a problem, and I think they're being a little cavalier about it. But remember, the whole idea was you can get your RSV, get your flu shot, get your COVID shot. But are there any side effects? Let's talk about RSV4 milk here, because we know the FDA just approved that first-ever RSV vaccine, and infants and toddlers, if I'm not mistaken.

I'm throwing up in my mouth from this. Like, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, are you good?

Are you paid per time? You say something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's exciting. Let's talk about it.

You remember the old, uh, maybe the show is still on the air that, uh, the mayor of Cincinnati guy, uh, had that talk show, um, where they, people get the fights on the set that the mayor of Cincinnati guy had that talk show where they people get the fights on the set and throw shoes they pull a shoe off and throw what's this guy's name

Moripovich Moripovich no not Moripovich the other guy Jerry Springer Jerry Springer Jerry Springer there was somebody that I don't know if know how removed I was from this story, but somebody, because you had to sign an NDA when you did the Springer show. Springer literally had a fee schedule. If you did this or that, you'd get paid. If you took your shoe off, you'd get like 50 bucks. If you got out of your chair in a threatening manner, you'd get like 50 bucks. If you did this, if you threw a threatening manner you'd get like 50 bucks if you did this if you threw a chair you get like a hundred uh there's all the it was a fee schedule that that would

create these people that you want to fight because hell yeah you make a lot of money yeah uh it's possible that this is going on as we speak with this clip you're playing, that there's a fee schedule. So if you say, yeah, or, oh, right, is there any of these things, it's possible you get paid more money. Or you get invited to the big, you know, Pfizer Christmas party and you get gifts and you get a, you know, what are people getting these days? One of those bags, bag of goodies. Goody bag. These days, people are getting gold bars, they're getting Mercedes, you know. We're on the wrong side of all this, my friend. Yeah, we've always been.

Let's talk about RSV4 milk here because we know the FDA just approved that first ever RSV vaccine. Infants and toddlers, if I'm not mistaken, they're especially susceptible to it. But should adults also get the vaccine? Be getting the vaccine. So, yeah, for little ones, this is great. We have approved now something called a lot of, for little ones, this is great. We have approved now something called a monoclonal. For little ones, this is great. We jab them.

We jab them early. We jab them off them. Hey, guys, where's my swag bag? Plural antibody for little neonates and infants born in the- Neonates. Oh, come on. Neonates. This is children who literally have just been born. Yeah. And you call them neonates this is this is children who literally have just been born yeah neo and you call them

neonates neonates well maybe the kid's name is nate or neo this is great they we have approved now something called a monoclonal antibody for little neonates and infants born in their first rsv season oh please how old is johnny i don't know, but it's his first RSV season. It's the first season of his life. It's known as the RSV season. These people are ghouls. They are selling horrible products that don't work. They should be ashamed of themselves as broadcasters.

This is what broadcasting has become. The vast wasteland is worse than ever. Good point. But for individuals 60 and older, there are now two different RSV vaccines that are available. No, two, not one. There's two. It's a bonanza. I'm telling you, bonanza. Anybody be getting it? Not necessarily. We are, yes, talking about older adults, people with chronic heart or lung disease, people with weakened immune systems, people living in nursing homes or long-term care facilities.

Now, a lot of people say, well, can I get the RSV shot with the flu shot? If you absolutely must, probably yes. But the CDC has some data that maybe the flu shot won't be as effective if you get it with the RSV. So I'm going to recommend it. What is it? So the CDC has some data. This is a warning signal, as far as I'm concerned,

that if you get the RSV with the flu shot, the flu shot won't be as effective. Why not? What is wrong with either one of those or both of those? They don't explain. Probably yes, but the CDC has some data that maybe the flu shot won't be as effective if you get it with the RSV. So I'm going to make a recommendation to my patients to separate RSV from flu shots.

That's not for kids. No, this is for 60 and up. The little ones get something called a monoclonal antibody. They were approved around the same time. It's really great news still. Great. Oh, it's great news. Why is the kid getting a monoclonal antibody when they're not sick?

You ask too many questions. no swag bag for you now let's uh let's talk about the booster oh i'm sorry sorry for the parents who are jacking these kids up with every damn thing that comes along just because somebody on the today show thought it was a good idea well no someone on the today show got a swag bag to promote it oh well this is why we exist so at least we have to end advertising drug company advertising that's why nobody in the world does it or allows it because they know it's dangerous it corrupts the media it has to be stopped the only two countries that allow it are the united states and new zealand two screwed up countries because of it, letting the pharmaceutical companies push everyone around. This has got to end.

Vote Kennedy. Let's talk. Wow, an endorsement. Let's talk about the booster. Oh, can we call it a booster? We need some marketing help on this. What about the COVID booster? So we have a a booster? We need some marketing help on this. What about the COVID booster? So we have a COVID booster.

Really? This makes my stomach turn the way they're promoting. COVID booster. Hello, children. COVID booster. COVID booster. COVID booster. Too good voice.

Booster, booster. What about the COVID booster? So we have a COVID booster this year, and we're probably going to stop calling it booster. We're going to say updated vaccine, just like we update the flu shot. No, like you update your software, like you update your windows, because that's what it is. It's an update to your technology. That's what the whole promise was of the mRNA platform. It's a software upgrade.

It's an update. The vaccine, just like we update the flu shot every year. This is targeting the XBB strain that was prominent in spring and summer, but it is going to cover the current circulating strains, which are different than that one. And it is okay to get the COVID and the flu shot at the same time. We've been saying that for a couple of years. Yeah. Well, let's just wrap this up. Is there a logic? So I just got my flu shot. I was scared, but I did it. I was scared, but I was scared. But I got my flu shot. I wasn't scared, but I got it.

What's the scared of a flu shot for? You see, because it was just scared. You know, it's just a needle. It's just a scare. And I, you know, I'm just scared. Is there a logic? So I just got my flu shot. You know, I was scared, but I did it.

Right? You're always scared. I know. I don't play needles. I'm the same, but I suck it up and I get it done. I sucked it up and I got it done. You're brave. But for some reason with the COVID booster, a lot of people are like,

me, me. Do you know what I mean? Should we apply the same logic? I can't help but mock these people. This is so, so horrible. I mean, if you just, if you, you know, and the problem is, if you're eating your breakfast, you got the kids running around, you hear half of this.

You're like, oh, kids have to pick you up after school. Don't take any aspirin. You've got to get your flu shot. Don't want you to get hurt. But for some reason with the COVID booster, a lot of people are like, do you know what I mean? Should we apply the same logic that it's just an updated? Hold on a second. I hate to interrupt.

No, I love it. But didn't this whole thing begin with the chatter that was going on about these clips? The chatter, everyone's talking about getting the shot. It's great. Now all of a sudden,

it's... Well, I have the CDC director next and there's a lot of me she will commit to nothing about this because they now know that the pharmaceutical industry is selling their product and they know it's no good at best ineffective at worst harmful it for first for the cdc and communication yes yes for an individual there are so did you hear what she says she says for the cdc and communication yes let's listen to the question again do you know i mean it should we should we apply the same logic that it's just an updated so it for first CDC and communication, yes. What does that mean?

So for the marketing. I have no idea. Why the emphatic yes? Because I think when she says for the CDC and communication, she means marketing. So for the marketing, yes, it's an updated. Yes, it's an updated. Oh, it's not a booster. Yes.

I think this is marketing they're marketing chemicals to you and your children cavalierly you're always scared i know i'm saying but i suck it up but for some reason with the covid booster a lot of people are like do you know i mean it should we should we apply the same logic that it's just an updated? So for the CDC and communication, yes. For an individual, there are so much nuance to this. And I think I would just say that the booster and updated shot of the COVID shot gives you protection against infection for a number of months, and then that declines. Protection against severe disease is more durable than the flu vaccine so if you've been boosted with covid before if you've had a covid infection if you've been boosted with covid what that's exactly what she said if you've

been boosted with covid protection against severe disease is more durable than the flu vaccine so if you've been boosted with covid before if you've had oh you know what she said she actually literally said that she said she said now equates having covid with getting a booster shot yep if you've been so if you've been boosted with covid by getting covid then by getting covid wow let's listen of the covid shot gives you protection against infection for a number of months and then that declines. Protection against severe disease is more durable than the flu vaccine. So if you've been boosted with COVID before, if you've had a COVID infection, you are still protected against severe disease.

Wow. What an admission. I mean, just a few years ago, I distinctly remember. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Do you think you have some kind of immunity because you got COVID? No, no. Back in your home, you. Don't come to work.

Don't come to school. Get your vacs. Get your vacs because you don't have immunity just because you say you had it. And now we've changed. Boy, I'm glad i have a memory that goes back at least a couple years so if you're in that bell curve young adult a bell curve again what's the bell curve i don't know why they keep bringing the bell curve up when you're in the bell curve but that means the bell curve that you've already you have immune it must be the immunity

bell curve or something so if you're in that age bell curve oh no no she's saying that if you've been boosted with covid i'm gonna start saying that are you a vaccine i've been boosted with covid perfect yeah i'm gonna start saying it too boost i never had covid i've been boosted with no COVID. You've been boosted with your caffeine drinks. You've been boosted. I have an immune system. Hello. Against severe disease is more durable than the flu vaccine.

So if you've been boosted with COVID before, if you've had a COVID infection, you are still protected against severe disease. So if you're in that bell curve, young adult, otherwise reasonably reasonably healthy talk to your doctor about getting an updated shot again from a public health population perspective the answer is kind of yes whether you've had it or get or there's a lot of nuance right you're so good talk to your doctor thank you seriously oh my god how long does this go on this is the last one how does anybody watch this show well i love how she says you're so good at promoting pharmaceutical products. You're so good. Thank you. See you at the party.

Swag bag full. Yes, girlfriend. The answer is kind of yes. Whether you've had it or there's a lot of new ones. You're so good. Talk to your doctor. Thank you. Seriously.

Seriously. I mean, seriously, you're so good. You really helped out with that ad. You're so good. So we have a CDC directorc director dr mandy cohen and since you know this is all very confusing we need to hear about you know from the authorities who are in charge of this is this safe do we need it what's going on the first thing we need to do is politicize it how good is cdc done with all due, over the last few years? How many people trust CDC at this

point? I was in the trenches during COVID. They were citing flimsy studies saying that masks will stop COVID. One of the things that I said is, when I come in, we're going to have a reckoning about all these COVID policies. Those are words spoken this week by Republican presidential candidate and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. During the height of the pandemic, Americans' trust in the CDC slipped compared to other government agencies as changing science around the coronavirus led to shifting CDC guidelines. Listen to what she's saying. As changing science because the science is always in, it's always

right, trust the scientists, but the science is always in it's always right trust the scientists but the science changed that makes no sense a word spoken this week by republican presidential candidate and florida governor ron desantis during the height of the pandemic americans trust in the cdd slipped compared to other government agencies as changing science around the coronavirus led to shifting CDC guidelines. In 2002, a Kaiser Family Foundation poll found more than a quarter of Americans still don't trust the agency to provide reliable information about COVID vaccines. Even the former CDC director said this about the CDC's COVID response, quote, to be frank, we are responsible for some pretty dramatic, pretty public mistakes from testing to data to communications.

And while most Americans have moved on from COVID, if you look at the numbers, the virus, of course, is still here. Oh, time to look at the numbers. Check the bell curve. The virus is still here. What are you thinking, stupid people? Hospitalizations have been on the rise since July with weekly admissions now more than triple what they were just two months ago. Maybe five. Oh, they went from one to three. I think three to nine is what I was going to suggest. Yes, triple. Joining us now for her very first CNN interview, the new CDC director, Dr. Mandy Cohen. All right, Dr. Mandy Cohen, we have a new face. We've got a new round, new chances. Let's bring it home. Dr. Mandy Cohen. Dr. Cohen, thank you so much for joining us this morning.

I want to start with, we heard from Ron DeSantis. He has basically... I want to start with nothing about medicine. I just want to start with politics. Mandy Cohen. Dr. Cohen, thank you so much for joining us this morning. I want to start with, we heard from Ron DeSantis. He has basically told people that 65 and over not to get the booster shot.

What do you make of his comments? When did he do that? Well, you heard at the beginning of that clip. He said not to get the booster shot? No, he didn't say that. Well, so she claims. Of course. Well, first, Sarah, thanks for having me on.

I want to make sure that Americans know that last week the CDC did recommend an updated COVID vaccine for everyone. Notice the marketing language, not booster. It's an updated COVID vaccine. She's all in. Vaccine for everyone over the age of six months. These are vaccines that we've given out 600 million of these doses. We've saved so many lives. Or created.

These vaccines are safe. They're effective. We want to make sure folks protect themselves going into the fall and winter season when we know we're going to see more COVID circulating. Okay. That's about the extent of what you'll go in this interview. They're safe and effective, which is what we've heard continuously, safe and effective. Let's get into it because obviously we go from politics to the internet because, you know, people can't. There are podcasters out there who are mocking you, Dr. Mandy Cohen, CDC director. There's there's people on Brighteon and Rumble who are not towing the line. What are we going to do with this misinformation is disinformation.

It's a problem. We've seen a lot of misinformation uh disinformation and conspiracy theories conspiracy theories oh no well how is it a conspiracy theory what's the conspiracy theory uh okay i'm sorry the vaccine doesn't work as a conspiracy theory and maybe she's talking about the the nanoparticle guy with the i don't think so but maybe that is a conspiracy that is a conspiracy disinformation and conspiracy theories on online especially about the vaccines and online especially we're conspiracy therapists young lady now you have a governor who is pushing some of this saying that floridians are being used

as guinea pigs and he's just not going to allow it. What is your response to his statement? He said that too? He said that they were guinea pigs? I mean, I don't remember that. This sounds like an actual conspiracy theory to me, that he said all these things. I didn't hear that. Well, first, I want folks to know that these vaccines have

been thoroughly and independently reviewed both by the FDA and CDC experts. Okay. Thoroughly and independently reviewed. They the fda and cdc experts okay thoroughly and independently reviewed they've been tested on mice there's no human trials of this latest this updated vaccine i but you know i'm not just a cdc director i'm also a mom and a wife and a daughter i'm also the owner of the hair club for men. No, but this is interesting. I'm also a mom. Now, seeing as she's the CDC director and she's a mom, you would think that she has been vaxxed, double vaxxed, double boosted, had the same done for her family, for her children. Would you agree?

I would say she'd been double vaxxed and at least double boosted, if not triple boosted. Let's listen and see if we can hear that. But, you know, I'm not just a CDC director. I'm also a mom and a wife and a daughter. I wouldn't recommend something for the American people. I wouldn't recommend for my own family. My daughters, who are nine and 11, I plan to have them get vaccinated. I'm getting vaccinated.

My husband. Wait a minute. Shouldn't she say updated vaccine? The way she says this, it sounds like she hasn't been vaccinated at all. That's exactly what it sounds like. And maybe it's true. And what you're doing is parsing reality. I plan to have them get vaccinated.

I'm getting vaccinated. My husband. Of course, my parents, who are over 65, are at the highest risk. I certainly want them to get protected. But really, unfortunately, COVID is still here with us. I know we all wish it would be gone, but it is here with us. But the good news is we have tools that are safe and effective to protect ourselves. Now, OK, so tools again for safe and effective tools.

So are these tools masks? Let's get into the mask, specifically mask. Can you give us an answer? Do masks work? I want to ask you about the recent uptick because we have seen the numbers go up over the last month or so. With that recent uptick, there are several school districts that are now requiring masks once again. Is that a good policy? Is that something that should be happening that we go back to masking at this point?

So from the CDC director, I would expect either yes. It's a good policy because masks work or no, it's not a good policy because children are. They need to breathe fresh air, not their own exfluent. Oh, good word. They're choking on their own exfluence. They can't see each other's facial expressions. It's very bad for child development. Either one I would accept from her, but... You know, we're in a different place than we were before.

We're outside of the emergency, but COVID is still with us, and we know that we have tools to protect us. Answer the question with your tools. We've been talking about vaccines being one, and I hope everyone gets an updated vaccine. But we have others, testing, treatment, and other common sense solution. And yes, masking is one of those solutions that folks could choose to use. See how cagey she is now?

See what she's doing? Yes, we have other tools. And yes, mask is something people could choose to use. Protect themselves from this virus. It's important to know your own risk. Are you around folks who are older or who have underlying conditions? Then we need to use more layers of protection. She's not saying mask, layers of protection.

The fact is we have tools. We need to use them. And we're going to keep talking about the ways folks can protect themselves. No answer. That is literally not an answer. Do you think that this is a good recommendation that schools should be masking now? As I said, there are several schools. I think Maryland, one of them, where they're saying, okay, now you have to mask again.

Okay. She's clearly asking the question again. Yes, this is the second go around. Yes, because even the CNN lady was not satisfied with that non-answer. Well, look, we want folks. Look, look. When you start off with look, no answer's coming. Well, look, we want folks to be reacting to what they're seeing on the ground in their community and making sure that they're protecting themselves.

We want folks to know that there are tools that they can use, but there are more things than masks. Remember, ventilation. Don't forget your vaccine. Wash your hands. Stay home when you're sick. These are layers of tools masks. Remember, ventilation. Don't forget your vaccine. Wash your hands. Stay home when you're sick. These are layers of tools that we have right now. And we want to just empower folks to use those tools and support them in any way we can. How is washing your hands a tool?

Kind of a tool is washing your hands. Hey, Bill, do you have any washing your hand tool there? Do you have a three-quarter inch washing your hands it's a tool do you have any uh washing your hand tool there you have a three-quarter inch uh washing your hand open the window it's a good tool opening windows is a tool yeah that's what she said all right let's get down to the crux of it because this is why we're here we need to promote the product do the updated vaccines work i do want to ask you about the the vaccine. Oh, she gave up on the question, I see. Of course she gave up on the question.

They always do this, by the way. If anyone out there doesn't notice, they go, they'll take two shots at it. Yep, and that's it. And that's it. They're not going to, and what they should do, if they were real journalists, is say, well, hold on a second. It's a simple question. Can you ask, answer it, yes it yes or no no that's only for congress and the senate exactly that's that's where that gets asked and they don't get the

answer either so it doesn't work but she answered it so that we can look out for the messaging the messaging is it's an updated vaccine and it's just one of many tools tools which include washing your hands opening the window standing on your head putting a bag over your head lots of tools we can come up with a whole tool kit in fact i do want to ask you about the the vaccines and how well i mean how well do they work and do they actually help reduce transmissions of the virus at all. This latest... Updated, updated, updated. Updated, it's an update. Don't call it a booster, it's an updated.

Vaccine. Oh, you screwed it up. Yes, so we know that these vaccines are safe and they're effective. They're safe and effective. Do they work safe and effective? At preventing the worst of what COVID can? Oh, this is great. Do they prevent? She she said, do they prevent transmission?

The question is really simple. Do they prevent transmission? Director of the CDC, the person who is in charge of our health. Yes. So we know that these vaccines are safe and they're effective at preventing the worst of what covid can can bring to you and that is putting you in the hospital or dying unfortunately we're still seeing hundreds of people over 65 dying each week okay so they're safe and effective at stopping the worst of covid, which is getting you sick and you dying. Unfortunately, we're seeing people dying. What is going on here?

With COVID, we have about 20,000 folks in the hospital right now with COVID. So what the vaccine can do is protect you from the worst of what COVID is. But remember, the vaccine, early data is showing us it can also prevent you from getting long COVID. We don't even know what long COVID is. But remember, the vaccine early data is showing us it can also prevent you from getting long COVID. We don't even

know what long COVID is yet. And this is bogus. This is not true. No, of course not. It decreases your risk of getting long COVID, which is extended symptoms. I didn't expect this. I mean, so let's just review. It will

protect you. You won't get COVID. The president of the United States said that. Then it was 90%, 95% effective. Then it was 75% effective. Then it was 65%. Then you needed a booster. And then, you know, oh, it's only good for a couple of months. You need another booster and you need to, you know, get an uptick in the booster. And well, it's not going to stop transmission. It's not going to do that, but it will stop you from getting really sick and going to the hospital. Now it'll stop the worst of what COVID can do,

like COVID some boogeyman with a gun outside your door. And now they've resorted to, well, if you're not in the hospital and you don't die, you won't get long COVID, but it's safe and effective from that COVID virus. So, yes, protecting from the worst, but also protecting you from potential long term symptoms from this virus, even if you have a mild case. What a lie. You have a mild case.

Back to us, though. What about all those anti-vaxxers on podcasts? I can't help but tell you this story. I was in several hospitals at the height of this pandemic. What were you doing? What were you doing in those hospitals? Why would you do that? Of this pandemic. And one of the things I heard from someone in the hospital, from one of the nurses, they said, someone came in here. They had COVID. It was really, really bad. They couldn't breathe.

And the person's wife says, don't you dare give them that vaccine. It is dangerous. It is deadly. This is one of those big issues, this anti-vaccine sentiment. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. If somebody's dying of COVID, what's the vaccine going to do? It's not a therapeutic.

Exactly. Exactly. Story is bogus. You don't give them, what's the vaccine going to do? It's not a therapeutic. Exactly. Exactly. Story is bogus. She wasn't in the hospital. She's making this up. No, the story is bogus. She's trying to find a bridge, a bridge to get into anti-vaccine. I agree.

I agree. This is bullshit. And one of the things I heard from someone in the hospital, from one of the nurses, they said. In the hospital. So something I heard from someone in the hospital from one of the nurses. So it's third hand information. Someone came in here. They had covid. It was really, really bad. They couldn't breathe. And the person's wife says, don't you dare give them that vaccine? It is dangerous. It is deadly. This is one of those big issues, this anti vaccine sentiment.

this anti-vaccine sentiment do you have a specific plan to try and combat it and how worried are you about a rise in this anti-vaccine sentiment okay just to make clear i don't think adam or john have any anti-vaccine sentiment we are anti these bullcrap vaccines that don't work under the newly changed definition of vaccine which is a vaccine is a shot that you get that doesn't do anything but you won't get long covid it's just a tool well it's really important that we are communicating with folks and having longer conversations to make sure that we're addressing people's questions please the questions though you're not answering them does it work uh is it for real do mass work you want to have longer conversations why longer conversations you're boring me already that they understand the data that we we see it's why i'm sharing personally what i would recommend

for my own family in terms of vaccination so it it's just a personal endorsement. It's not based on science or numbers which you haven't given us. It's an endorsement by a lady who has a badge. I know folks want to be healthy. Where did you get this clip? CNN. This is CNN. I mean, luckily no one watches CNN.

But what? A dog? Do we have a dog alert? A dog alert. Let me finish this clip. Why don't you finish the clip and then stop taping. I'll come back after the clip. It's not funny. 36 seconds.

Can he hold on for 36 seconds? Yes, he can. And personally, what I would recommend for my own family in terms of vaccination, I know folks want to be healthy, that they want their families to be safe. So we're just going to keep communicating about the good information that we know. What? How's that communicating anything? She communicated nothing except her personal endorsement. Healthy, that they want their families to be safe. So we're just going to keep communicating about the good information that we know, the scientific information that

we're seeing. We want to communicate as good information that we know, the scientific information that we're seeing. We want to communicate as transparently as we can and answer folks' questions. We encourage folks to visit CDC.gov. She answered no question, but visit CDC.gov. And get their questions answered and engage with your doctor, with a nurse practitioner. Ask good questions and make sure you're using tools to protect yourself. Dr. Mandy Cohen, congratulations. You are the new CDC director.

Lots of work to be done. Thank you so much for answering our questions here. And that's your question. Thank you for answering our questions. Hey, whatever you do, don't call it a comeback. I've got some clips of the RFK Jr. op. Bobby the op is back, everybody. all right oh i mean he hasn't gone anywhere no i know just the way they're doing it they're rolling it out funny okay all right i'm

ready what so it looks as if uh well let's play the op and we'll discuss after the three clips and biden may have competition a recent poll has good news for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. This is NTD. I'm just assuming. You can play the jingle if you want. No, no, no. I didn't know. I just.

Yes, it is NTD. They're pro-Kennedy. Oh, really? Oh, then I do have to play it. Yeah, they're pro-Kennedy. This is NTD. And Biden may have competition. A recent poll has good news for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Yeah, they're pro-K. This is N-T-D. And Biden may have competition. A recent poll has good news for Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Even as the candidate may be considering running as an independent. We spoke with an Epoch Times reporter to dive into his campaign. Jeff Lauderback, thank you so much for joining us. Great to have you back on the show. It seems right now rumors are swirling that RFK Jr. might run as an independent, separating himself from the Democratic Party. That's after some contention with the Democratic National Committee. From what you've seen from his campaign, what has he been saying about all of this? Well, it's interesting because I've been covering the campaign since, I believe, May.

And for several months, he would say, when asked that that question if he would run as a third party or an independent that he's a democrat he wants to restore the party to what it was when his uncle jfk and his father rfk were uh president and senator respectively and he he would say that he wants to get the nomination he wants to restore the party back to what it was. But in the last month, like in New Hampshire recently, he was talking about how that if the DNC makes it difficult for him, that he has to consider all his options. And now a Rasmussen poll from just two days ago shows that 33 percent of Democrats say they would vote for RFK if he was a third party. From what you've seen on the ground, how would him running as an independent impact the election cycle? Wes, yeah, the 33 is a dead giveaway.

Okay, I'm with you. It's an op. If they're throwing out the 33s all of a sudden from a Rasmussen poll, isn't the Rasmussen poll, aren't they like Republican GOP pollsters? Kind of. Yeah. All right. Yeah, 33. Yeah.

Sure. All right. All right. So he's going to run it. What's happening is that the DNC is not giving in to anything he wants to do. What's happening is that the DNC is not giving in to anything he wants to do. They look at him as a lunatic, and they're not going to let him run as a Democrat or get on any ballots or anything. He says, okay, what happens if I run as an independent?

How do you think you guys are going to do if I'm running as an independent? Right, he pulls 33% away, apparently. Yeah, which is nothing to sneeze at, and that's Democrats. I think Joe Rogan said he would vote for Kennedy. Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me in the least. It's right up his alley. Let's go with part two. And Joe Rogan wouldn't not vote for him just because he was a third party. I mean, Joe's no party guy. That's the way it is, I think, with everybody.

If Kennedy's on the ballot he's going to get his votes in fact they discussed that in part two well what i find interesting is that every town hall or meet and greet every tour that i go to there's a wide mix of people there's people who voted for biden president biden in 2020 there's people who supported President Trump in 2016 and 2020. He has a wide spectrum of political supporters. I think from what they've said, they said they'll support him regardless of whether he's a Democrat or an independent. I think a lot of Republicans, if he decided to run as a Republican, I think he would do well in that primary. It's just he talks about how it's

a movement. That's what he's trying to create. From what I've seen about being heavily involved in covering it, it just seems like that's accurate. There's a lot of enthusiasm regardless of where he goes. And speaking of that wide net of support that he gets, one picture he posted recently getting a lot of attention is with Pierce Bros brosnan former james bond glory this was at a fundraiser from what you've seen what other celebrities appear to be backing him well when you're a kennedy obviously you have a natural fit for ties to celebrities but he uh rfk jr is married to cheryines from Curb Your Enthusiasm fame. And so he has a big network and they live in Los Angeles. So Pierce Brosnan, he recently had a fundraiser with Eric Clapton performing and that raised two point two million dollars for his campaign.

Alicia Silverstone just came out and endorsed him. campaign. Alicia Silverstone just came out and endorsed him. And a funny thing, Woody Harrelson was photographed with RFK Jr. and took a lot of heat. And I had asked him about that. And he said that, well, he probably doesn't even know he's taking heat because he's off the grid. He's not on social media. So I don't think it could hurt i don't in today's climate i don't know if it helps or not uh but he is getting uh getting a lot of support from uh well-known people if i may just say this guy's report is lame i could have given you that report but i i get the point that's the point we don't need any of these clips

we can do the whole thing but this is just confirmation of what's going on especially within the op now they got the Hollywood celebrities on board which just says to me okay this is we're getting there and I will reiterate

that the fact that Cheryl Hines has not been strung up, drawn and quartered and throw in thrown in stocks for for being married to this horrible anti-vaxxer Joe Rogan loving loser says that something is up. Something's up, I think. We don't get into it too much more at the last clip, but it's kind of interesting. And what is the significance or impact that you see these celebrities seeming to back him have, especially due to some of R.K.Jr.'s more controversial stances, say, on vaccines? Well, that seems to be contrary, doesn't it? It seems like Hollywood is all in on COVID vaccines and COVID mandates. It just seems that way, California as a whole. I don't know. I can't really say whether that will help or hurt, but I think that just goes to show he has a wide spectrum of support

that you otherwise wouldn't think. Obviously, President Trump has strong support by his base, but that's a base that is pretty much conservative. RFK Jr.'s support seems to go all ways. And that's you could throw in the Hollywood crowd is that's just interesting that he has that support. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think he he would only help Trump win if he ran third party. Oh, well, one of these days,

you have to remember that Abraham Lincoln basically ran third party. Well, I wasn't around that time. But the parties do have the opportunity to to lose uh if he ran third yeah i i looking at it would think yeah that's what's going to happen or trump or whoever it might not even be trump could be somebody else but it's possible that the uh that him running third party i mean it's just to put the screws to the Democrat Party to tell him, you know, to bring him on board, is this threat.

But it's a real threat. Yeah. It's more of a threat than the one with Joe Manchin and whatever that other free speech party, whatever that thing is. So Trump has tremendous support right now. And I think it's bleeding over way beyond MAGA country. And the main thing that he's saying is, I will initiate the biggest deportation this country has ever seen, which I think is hitting the hot buttons right now. When you say that, people are paying attention. Particularly people who, I don't know, want jobs and see some Venezuelans

going in front of them. DeSantis is hitting Trump at the Vax level. No Vax! I'm against Vax! I can't, you know, he's, he's, that's the only spot he can hit Trump is about the Vax. And how's that working? Well, Trump has, what, 50% to his 15%

or something? And then to have the op come in, I don't know. He's still a Democrat, John. He's, you know, all talk and I've heard his solutions. He wants a giant loan program for people to buy homes and none of it sounds, I mean, he's, he's saying all the right things, like everything's corrupt, but I don't really hear solutions from him. And maybe, maybe, I mean, it's, it's a stretch,

but maybe America will pay attention this time. I don't know. I mean, who am I kidding? But I'm, well, we don't need another Democrat, but so there's that aspect to it. But as a you know as uh the guys that got an appeal

he's appealing he says the right things he's uh he's got he's got panache panache well if he's an op then he can only be an op to uh to help Trump get elected and then become Trump's attorney general. Now, that would be an op. Wow, I didn't think of that one. How about that one, huh? You like that? That's a good one. You like that?

You like that? Yeah. Well, if he is an op, that's what you want to do with him. You want to put him in some position where he could put the reins on Trump. And Attorney General is that perfect job. That would be a good one. And there was something interesting that popped up about the CIA versus DIA. Did you see the latest Seymour Hersh substack?

No. So just to reiterate, Seymour Hersirsch award-winning journalist but once he started to say stuff like obama's no good i'm just paraphrasing um and the war the war in iraq and war afghanistan is bogus they deplatformed and he became a kook am i characterizing that right he became a k overnight. He's like anybody else who turns on the Democrat Party, a cult. The cult goes after him, and he's one of them. I mean, that's why you don't see Ray McGovern anymore on any of these shows. There's a slew of these guys that were just blackballed, blacklisted.

I think he was being published by the London School of Books or something? The London Journal of Book Review or something like that. London Book Review, yeah. Review of books, I think. Totally marginalized, deplatformed. But I think you and I have always liked his stuff. And although he sometimes seems to go a bit far, I see no evidence other than his assessment

of what happened to Nord Stream as being true and correct. And now he wrote this piece, it's called Zelensky's Bad Moment. And it starts off actually by saying, as we're coming up on the anniversary, it's already been a year of the destruction of Nord Stream 1 and 2. He states here that the CIA is getting pretty mad because the DIA, the Defense Intelligence

Agency, has the ear of the White House and is saying, oh no, everything's great. We're doing pretty good. The offensive is working. It's going slow, but the offensive is working. And the CIA is saying, no, it's not. It's failed. In fact, I have it here. There were some early Ukrainian penetrations in the opening days of the June offensive. This is from an official. At or near the heavily trapped first of russia's three

formidable concrete barriers of defense the russians retreated to sucker them in and they all got killed after weeks of high casualties and little progress along with horrific losses to tanks and armored vehicles which i have seen i throughout the few months. I have just on Telegram and Signal have received video after video of these great tanks that Germany and everyone else gave to Ukraine being destroyed. After weeks of high casualties and little progress, along with horrific losses to tanks and armored vehicles, major elements of the Ukrainian army, without declaring so, virtually canceled the offensive the two villages that ukrainian army recently claimed

as captured are so tiny they could fit between two burma shave signs and and now that's a that's a call back to there's a reference for you you want to explain the burma shave signs yeah there used to be uh when when the highways were opened up when cars could actually travel in the 50s 60s and 70s when they were traveling people were traveling cross-country a lot uh this company named burma shave would put up the site they'd go to a farmer and you'd be driving through the middle of nowhere and there'd be a and and if you're a kid, you would really perk up when you saw these signs, and it would be a series of about five or six signs... In a row.

In a row, and they're all... You know, they're spaced far enough apart that you could read them because you're driving at 60 miles an hour. So there'd be one sign that'd say something. It was like a teaser, and then there'd be another line, and then a line, a line, a line. There'd be about five, and then there'd be line a line a line they'd be about five and then there'd be some sort of a joke a punch line at the end and then at the very very end of these signs

would be a sign that had the Burma shave logo and it just said Burma shave and these were everywhere across the country and they were very funny and kids and parents would read the signs as you zoomed by each one. It was a highlight of driving in the middle of nowhere, middle of mid-America. These signs have all been knocked over and gone. I think they became collectible. I'm surprised you don't have one in the house somewhere. I am too. So the point being that the actual ground that they've captured is very, very tiny. And the CIA, they gave up.

And Hirsch has sources. He has informants. He's cultivated these sources over, what, a 50-year career or something. It's amazing what he's done. Since the 60s. year career or something it's amazing what he's done since the 60s and he says the cia they gave up uh after what after their so i'll read verbatim um putin did something stupid no matter how provoked by violating the un charter and so did we meaning president biden's decision to wage a proxy war with Russia by funding Zelensky and his military.

Now, this is a source quote. And so now we had to paint him black with the help of the media in order to justify our mistake. Referring to a secret disinformation operation that was aimed at diminishing Putin undertaken by the CIA in coordination with elements of British intelligence. The successful operation led major media outlets here and in London to report that the Russian president was suffering from varied illnesses that included blood disorders and serious cancer. One off-quoted story had Putin being treated by heavy doses of steroids. Not all were fooled. The Guardian skeptically reported in May of 2022 that the rumors spanned the gamut. Vladimir Putin is suffering from cancer or Parkinson's disease.

But many major news organizations took the bait. In June 2022, Newsweek splashed what it billed a major scoop, citing unnamed sources saying that Putin had undergone treatment two months earlier for advanced cancer. Putin's grip is strong, but no longer absolutes. The jockeying inside the Kremlin has never been more intense. Everyone's sensing that the end is near. So that was the end of the CIA's involvement because, of course, that failed because it was a lie and it wasn't true. And they tried to, you know, remember the CIA saying, oh, yes, tens of thousands of Russians are reporting to us and they're all going to help us get rid of Putin. Yeah, that was a good one.

It shows you how pathetic it all really is. And so now we're just now lying to send these long range missiles, which I guess we're going to shoot them into, I guess they're 300 kilometers. We're going to shoot them into i guess they're 300 kilometers we're going to shoot them into you know occupied territory and do some damage mostly crimea right oh crimea and what kersh is saying is this war is over there is no more war it just and and

i think what comes into play now is russia just sits they are in the, in the demilitarized zone because it's filled with landmines and, and cluster bomb cluster munition. Poland possibly takes over some of West Ukraine. I would love to. And meanwhile, we've got the ambassador for the charge de mission. So kind of the ambassador to Ukraineraine what's this jumox name uh william taylor and he's just trying to propagate the message that the white house

and the defense intelligence agency want you to hear so that we can keep sending money to the military industrial complex it's becoming so blatantly clear. Joining us now is former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, William Taylor. This is CNN again. He is the Vice President of the Russia and Europe Center at the U.S. Institute of Peace. Thank you, sir, so much for being here. The U.S. Institute of Peace. What an oxymoron. Conflict among the U.S., the congressmen and congresswomen.

And you have Zelensky there saying, I cannot get this done without your help. What in the end happens here? What do you see happening to Ukraine? Will this just be a war that just almost a forever war at this point in this kind of stalemate? Sure, I don't think so. I think, number one, there's actually some progress. I don't think so. I think, number one, there's actually some progress on the ground. There's some progress.

I think there's some progress on the ground. In the southern part of Ukraine. Did he just do that again? Or did you do that? No. There's some progress in The southern part of Ukraine. Did he just do that again? Or did you do that? No. There's some progress in the southern part. Whoa, two tells in a row. Ukraine, where the Ukrainian forces are slowly, grindingly, bloodily, very difficult fighting, are moving into and pushing the Russians back.

Does that sound like a guy who's really telling the truth about some good news coming out of Ukraine? I don't think so. That's their goal. And there's some indication that that's having some success. There's some indication. No indication. Some indication. In the last couple of days, we're seeing reports of that, number one. Number two, I expect in the end

this assistance package like all the previous assistance packages will be approved by congress this is the 24 billion dollar assistance package that is being used as a political football for the pending gloom and doom of a shutdown of government if If you put this to a vote in both houses, you're going to get bipartisan support, good majorities. The question is how to get it to the vote. But smarter people than I will get that done. When they actually vote, it will pass. He sounds really confident. That brings me to the Rand Paul clips. All right. He went on for

11 minutes. I have three excerpts. And this is, to me, I think, kind of a watershed moment, at least. Well, of course, he's anti-war. But listen to Rand Paul's screed number one. I rise to put the leadership of the House, the Senate, and the President of the United States on notice. I will not consent to any expedited passage of any spending bill that provides any more American aid to Ukraine. It's as if no one has noticed that we have no extra money to send to Ukraine. Our deficit this year will exceed $1.5 trillion. of money to send to Ukraine. Our deficit this year will exceed $1.5 trillion. Borrowing money from China to send it to Ukraine makes no sense. It's not as if we have some sort of rainy day fund sitting around trillions of dollars at a pot of money and we're just going to send that to

Ukraine. We're going to borrow it. When we borrow it and create new money to pay for that borrowing, we create the inflation that is plaguing our economy. See, he mixed his messages. I like the idea of why borrow from China to give to Ukraine. That's smart. But then he confused it. He should have just stuck with why print it and create inflation? Because that's the truth of it. But for some reason, he had to throw china in there

i think that was a mistake he has to get china because there's a lot of people that think that china's but he's financing everything it's a mistake it could be but you know it's a good but he goes on and now he has a nice little uh little complaint about the war itself in part two since the beginning of russia's war in Ukraine, the American taxpayers provided Ukraine with $113 billion. Over the 583 days of war, between February 24th, 2022, in the end of the month, that averages $6.8 billion per month or $223 million per day. There's a lot of things that we need to fix in our country before we borrow money to try to perpetuate a war in another country.

When will the aid requests end? When will the war end? Can someone explain what victory in Ukraine looks like? President Biden certainly can't. His administration has failed to articulate a clear strategy or objective in this war and ukraine's long-awaited counter-offensive has failed to make meaningful gains in the east with no clear end in sight it looks increasingly like ukraine will be yet another endless quagmire funded by the American taxpayer. Mm hmm. Yeah.

And then he does do the thing that the other guy kind of suggested is a no brainer. But Rand Paul thinks it's a bad idea. And here he bitches about the fact that they that they are going to shut down the government unless we give Ukraine more money. And now there are those in the Senate and who would hold the federal government hostage by inserting $24 billion more for Ukraine. They're talking about saying the only way government stays open, the only way we avoid a shutdown is by shoveling more American taxpayer dollars to Ukraine. They're going to link keeping the government open with more money to Ukraine. And I'm here to say that I'm not going to agree to the government open with more money to Ukraine. And I'm here to say that I'm not going to agree to it.

And I will not let them shut down the government simply because they want to send more of your hard earned tax dollars to Ukraine. This, of course, is the right message. But I think that Taylor here, the former ambassador, I think he has it right. He says, oh, no, people much smarter than me are going to bring this to the vote and it will it will pass because he knows the power he knows how everyone with the exception of rand paul maybe one other is completely corrupted by money for the military industrial complex it has to pass there's it's it's not about ukraine as he says ukraine no it's about the money the money you make a great point in the sense of if it could get to the house floor the requisite number of votes are there period end of story in the united states senate the

majority leader there chuck schumer is certainly there there is no uh bigger supporter uh or more i think bigger defender uh than Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. I think that's why the dynamic is so interesting right now, because the tone felt different yesterday than when I was in Washington for when President Zelensky came for his first visit outside of Ukraine at the end of last year for the video remarks to the joint session of Congress a month after the war. That tonal shift, what do you think is behind that? So, Phil, it's been a long time. The Ukrainians have been fighting for 19 months. The United States has been supporting for 19 months. That's a long time to maintain that kind of focus and intensity. The Ukrainians have no choice. They have no choice but to defend themselves. They are under attack every day, every day. And it's up to us to

maintain our support. And so I think that long-term support, I was just in Ukraine last week, and it's the same thing. It's a grim determination. When I was there a year ago, it was enthusiastic because the counteroffensive was going so well. Now the counteroffensive is going, but it's not. Wait, wait. Got a little timeline issue here. Yes. The counteroffensive didn't begin a year ago. No, it didn't even start until the fall, like July, June, July, kind of. And they had to keep pushing it off. In fact, they called it the spring offensive. They called it the spring offensive.

So this guy's just full of it. Of course he is. He's trying. He's a Pentagon guy. He has to make it sound like there's still fighting going on when I believe, Hirsch, there's no fighting going on. It's over. But that doesn't mean the money has to stop flowing. That's all that it's ever been about. When I was there a year ago, it was enthusiastic because the counteroffensive was going so well. Now the counteroffensive is going, but it's not as dramatic. And so the grim determination is something we have to support. Grim determination.

What does that mean? They're like, I'm going to die, but I'm determined. Grim determination. One more clip and then we'll get out of this. May I ask you sort of what you think the world is doing as they look at this sort of fight in the United States over this and as this war has ground on? What the message is? You have McCarthy sort of not wanting to be seen with him on camera. And then suddenly you see this picture of them behind the scenes standing next to each other. He did not let Zelensky speak to Congress. What is the rest of the world doing and how much of a damage could this cause in seeing that there is infighting in the United States over whether to help fund this war?

Well, Sarah, you're exactly right. You're exactly right. Seeing that there is infighting in the united states over whether to help fund this war well sarah you're exactly right in the in the in the closed meetings there apparently was was support even from from mr mccarthy um mr mccall the the uh committed douchebag from texas who's all in on chair, Foreign Relations Committee chair, said that Mr. McCarthy was strong support on doing more. Actually, these ATACMS, these long-range missiles, they were pushing the administration to provide those. So there is that. But you're absolutely right. In public, there is this debate. There is that. But you're absolutely right. In public, there is this debate.

It's not a surprise. People observing the U.S. government and the U.S. machinations, political machinations. They under people around the world, in particular in Ukraine, they know what's going on here. And again, they they know they can't win this war in the immediate sense without the United States leading this coalition, leading the alliance. So they're counting on this kind of support coming through. They're going to pass it. They're going to spend the money, John. I don't believe for a second that this is all theater and it's all going to be, oh, we have to shut down the government.

They're liars, all of them, all of them. I'll give Rand Paul, I'll give him a pass i think he's he's always been that way he's always been the one guy for as long as he's been doing this show ran paul's well it was ron paul then but his dad but ran paul's always been the one guy nope nope nope nope yeah he'd vote no on stuff the vote would be like 99 to 1 it would be and he would be the one who the hell's the one guy who'd look him up and it was him? Yeah. And he'd have some great reason for it that nobody else was paying attention or cared.

Yeah. Well, usually it's about the money. But this is where we go down the tubes, man. We're going down the tubes. It's not good. This is not the way to go. But meanwhile, the Pentagon, who we still have been waiting for them to pass an audit. That'll be the day.

Well, well. They won't even, in fact, Rand Paul in that long thing, people should look this up, it's a long screen. on about the fact that they they've tried he's tried and others have tried to pass a any bill whatsoever to get some oversight on the money going to ukraine so we can audit that money they and it won't get passed no no no just send the money who gives a shit what happens to it well the comptroller the comptroller the pentagon comptroller, Gregory Little, has good news for us. It's very good news. To make sense of all the provisions, they have created an AI program codenamed Game Changer to gain better visibility and understanding across our various budgets. And he's very excited about this. AI to the rescue.

I love the name, the audacity of calling it Game Changer. Yeah, sure. We can be cynical. They should call it Money Changer. There you go. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. In the morning to you, the man who put the C in the CDC Q&A. And ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend on the other end,

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titled Vermox, which I don't know if anyone took the time outside of the people who listened to the show to look up what Vermox is, but we thought it was kind of an interesting title, so we ran with it. But the artwork was done by Matt Boisvert, B-vert? Boisvert? Boisvert? B-O-I-S-V-E-R-T. It was a really nice piece. We both agreed kind of quickly. It was the F-35 pilot

who was parachuting out, of which I have an update, actually, from an actual... No, but you know, since we're doing bonus stuff during the donation segment, I have the 911 call he made, supposedly. He supposedly made from after he landed in someone's backyard.

We have a military jet crash. I'm the pilot. We need to get a rescue rolling. I'm not sure where the airplane is. It would have crash landed somewhere. I ejected. Help on the way. Give me just a moment, sir.

Yeah, water will be good. All right. Okay. wow that's i have a better recording than that that was how hard did you how far did you fall is her question yes what does that got to do with the price of anything well if you listen to the whole call the whole thing is weird it's well you know there's some thought that it was actually a female pilot this was just a scam that might be but i now have because i have the ends from an f-35 pilot from the 30 f-35 pilots that this pilot flew into, who apparently was a very, was a experienced pilot, flew into bad weather, had a total display failure. And at that point you become very disoriented. It's called the leans. I've had it happen to me. And if you don't have instruments that are working, which seems to every aircraft that I've ever been in, even the modern ones, if they have a glass cockpit,

they still have a small gyro and an airspeed indicator that is completely separate, which is mechanical. You don't, and it has its own battery for lighting. And I can't get an answer whether the F-35 has one backup system with gyro and uh you know for your attitude like a artificial horizon and your airspeed indicator if you don't have that in these in these planes yeah you're gonna you're gonna punch out because you don't know you think you'll be upside down you may be upside down when you think you're flying straight

um so i don't i'm not buying any of that i'm i think this is a design flaw uh this thing is a turkey well that's what everybody seems to think that's what everybody is what everybody's saying send them to ukraine there you go so let's take a look at what else we had for uh the previous episode uh less ai in fact comic strip blogger was apologizing on no agenda social i said i'm sorry i'll only do one ai from now on then we had some actual pieces um i wouldn't say that they were all great uh but they weren't ai generated well the lincoln one i liked i think was probably ai yes that's why we didn't use it no that's not why yeah it is i said it's ai i don't like it nice it's ai i didn't like it

um no i i think uh you know there was a sag after that things just weren't quite hitting but you know sometimes it can be really funny. I marginally liked Matt. It was another Matt Boisvert. He's good for $33 trillion in IOU. And then, funny enough, Comics for Blogger had the F-35 witness screaming against a goat. I'm not quite sure that that hit home. We had a peach in a banana court.

Who did that one? Punch in the podcast. I don't know. Then there's, you know, there's no Parker Pauly. There's no way we're going to put Fetterman on our album art. This is not going to happen. How many times do we have to say these things? We're not going to put ugly people on the front of our podcast art.

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That, of course, depends on where you put them. So we recommend IMDb, where you'll see we have 800 producers who have claimed their production credits for different episodes of the show, along with some really, really interesting Hollywood bigwigs. Put it in your LinkedIn profile. Put it on your resume. If anyone ever questions you, we'll be more than happy to vouch for you. And thank you very much for being executive and associate executive producers of episode 1593. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth and john's going to take us through to the 50s and we'll get to our nightings our title changes and of course meetup reports we've got quite a few today. Sure.

Loud Pipe starts us off in Charlotte, North Carolina, $197.70. These a lot of job requests, job karma, put you that at the end. Paul Daniels in Fort Gratiot. There's a way of pronouncing this. Degrasse. G-R-A-T-I-O-T Township, Michigan. Needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched.

He came in with $150. Also $110 from Jamie Palaccio in Clifton, Virginia. $110. Ian Field, $100. Sir Lineman in Illinois, 100. He's got a bunch of 33s coming at him. Brady in Lee's Summit, Missouri, 99.33. Jason Marr in Vancouver, Washington, 8.008.

Kevin McLaughlin, the Archduke of Luna lover of American boobs comes in with 8008 to promote breast vine melons Sir Boober in Nevada Iowa 8008 to Sir Boober this is his quarterly

boob donation Gary Blatt in Wayne Pennsylvania 7777 8008. This is his quarterly boob donation. Gary Blatt in Wayne, Pennsylvania. 7777. Thomas Eckman in San Francisco, California. 68. Kevin McLaughlin again in Concord, North Carolina. The Archduke of Luna.

Papino Melon. I've had these melons. Papino Melon. This is Pap these melons. Pepino Melon. This is Pepino 6006. That's small boobs. David Jarman in North Turamura in Australia. New South Wales. Ed Schwartzman in South Miami, Florida.

5784. And he's a de-douching. You've been de-douched. Scott Barrett in Fort Johnson, Louisiana, 5510. Herbert Garrett, 5510. Says double nickels on the dime from Raleigh, North Carolina. Surprise. Surprise.

In Yukon, Oklahoma, 5444. Forrest Martin, 5005. And now we have the $50 donors. I'm just going to do the names and locations. Run through them, starting with Sir Patrick Maycomb in New York City. Robert Hanna in Poway, California. Or Poway. Poway.

I think it's pretty sure Poway. Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida. Michael Sikora in New Richmond, Wisconsin. Donald Locke in Pottsville, Pennsylvania. Michael Romano in Sebastopol, California. Greg Huff in Austin, Texas. Gaucho Woodworking in Redondo Beach. Gaucho Woodworking. By the way, they have a nice site.

I should get some stuff from them. Kate Haskell in San Rafael, California. Alexa Delgado in A San Rafael, California. Alexa Delgado in Aptos, California. David Perdue in Snow Hill, North Carolina. Samuel Canarday in North Riverside, Illinois. Brian Hummel in Wimberley, Texas. Charles Boyd in San Marcos, Texas. Andrew Butterfield in Bettendorf, Iowa. A lot of 50s today. Diego Lopez Crane in Ithaca, New York.

Herbert J. Ratter in New York City. Wes Stewart in Mesa, Arizona. Birthday coming up for somebody in the Stephen Crummey family in El Cajon. Michael Statum, parts unknown. And last on the list is Tracy Sullivan in Tinley Park, Illinois. I want to thank these people for making the show $15.93. We're getting close to $1,600. A happy reality. Yes, thank you to these producers, our executive and associate executive producers. We got our

night's note from James Jackson, who sent, he became an instant knight on the last show. He sent, we got his note, so he'll be knighted today. And he humbly requested... You've been deduced. And from

this day forward, he shall be known as Sir James of the Rolling Hills. God bless. Jingle requests, Big baller. P.S. Go Cowboys. Baller. Shot caller. 20 inch blades.

Only in Paula. And as always, thanks everyone under 50. Typically for reasons of anonymity, $49.99 is a big one that we see when people are doing that anonymously. But also people who are on our many sustaining donations. You can make one up yourself. We have 1111s, 1212s, 33s, all kinds of groovy ones,

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I'm Noah Champion Thomas Ballmer wishes his son It's your birthday, birthday I'll know what you got Thomas Ballmer wishes his son Nolan a happy belated birthday. It was on the 12th. Sir Bing of the BMWs and Bulldogs. Happy birthday to his smoking hot wife, Jennifer Roediger. And she turned 41 today. Thomas Ballmer turns 49 tomorrow. Stephen Crummer celebrates on October 2nd.

Duchess Kim is celebrating, as is Scott the Welder. today. Thomas Palmer turns 49 tomorrow. Stephen Crummer celebrates on October 2nd. Duchess Kim is celebrating, as is Scott the Welder. And belated happy birthday to my sister-in-law, Toni Dockery, and my mother-in-law, Pat Alanise. And happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. It's your birthday, yeah. T-t-t-t-tidal changes.

Turn and face the slay. Tidal changes. Turn and face the slaves. Title changes. Don't want to be a douchebag. Ah, there's never douchebaggery when it comes to a title change. As you heard earlier, Countess Kim came in big today and really supported the show. And she now becomes, well, she becomes Duchess Kim, Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers. Thank you so much, Duchess Kim.

We appreciate that. And we shall for now forevermore until you change that. Call you thank you so much, Duchess Kim. We appreciate that. And we shall, for now, forevermore until you change that. Call you by your official title, Duchess Kim. Two nightings to go. Of course, James and Matt. So we got a sword here, which I like this sword.

This is the one. Here you go. Oh, that's the bejeweled heft. Oh, nice. I like that a lot. Careful now. Don't want that jewel to pop out. James Jackson, Matt Dubois. Up,ois, up you go on the podium.

Both of you have become knights of the Noah Jenner Roundtable today, thanks to your support of the show and the amount of $1,000 more. And I'm very proud to pronounce the KD as Sir James of the Rolling Hills and Sir Mormon Millennial. Gentlemen, for you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. Of course, Green Jell-O and Cherry Coke. Harlots and Haldol, Pepperoni Rolls and

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go to noagendaring.com. Take a look at those handsome knight and dame rings. Only you two get them today. So use the handy sizing guide to send that to us, along with your address. And of course, that will come complete with wax to seal your important correspondence. It is, after all, a signet ring

and an official certificate of authenticity. No agenda meetups. It's not your party. Now, you'll recall we had a lot of meetups on last Thursday, on the 21st, so I expected to have quite a number of meetup reports, which we have. However, unless you have an enormous amount of people like Indiana, there's no reason your meetup reports have to be over a minute long, produced with funky stuff. I don't have time to edit all this stuff, so keep it within reason, folks, please. Arlington, Virginia, let's start

with them. Hey, this is DC Girl at the location of the first Arlington meetup that took place five years ago. Today, we are celebrating our special guest, Sir Sean of Slovakia and his smoking hot wife, Bara, in the morning. And Slovakia, we don't even know if it's a real country. It could be on the order of Narnia or Brigadoon or Wakanda, for all I know. I've not seen any evidence that it exists. This is Roundy. This is Jacob, everybody. Glad to be here at my second meetup.

Use Bitcoin. Hey, this is Sir William of West Pennsylvania. And Sir Sean shows up in D.C. the same time as Zelensky. Coincidence? I think not. I think not. This is Sir Sean of Slovakia with his smoking hot wife, Sir Nada Dame Bara, enjoying a hell of a meetup. And thanks to D.C. Girl and Roger for setting this up.

What a great time. This is Jeff from Springfield. Me Too is back, baby. Hey there, this is Srini Murthy. Some people call me Walla D'Amour, but my name is Srini. Hey, JCD, remember that. His name is Srini, but my name is Mike White. Coming at you from Arlington.

It's been great meeting everybody. I also promised CSB that I would shout him out. He's one of my favorite people on the Internet at CSB on Mastodon and Twitter or CSB.lol. Follow him. Henry hailing from Alexandria. I promised I would. Good morning. All right.

The Spooks in Arlington. Thank you for your meet-up report. Dick Spurt. All right. The Spooks in Arlington. Thank you for your meetup report. Dickspurt. All right. It's Sir CB and Sir Dickspurt here in Wyoming, Minnesota at the Cornerstone Pub and Prime with the Goat Karma Producers Local 33 meetup. The return of Sir Dickspurt. Sir Dickspurt.

Adam, John, can't tell you how much fun I had. And now this meetup has a spook. Don't drop. Adam, John, this is Dame Jody of the Tenkey. In the morning. In the morning. This is Peter with Dame Jody of the Tenkey going for the hat trick.

Sir Coitus Root of the Scooter Clubs. I want the dude's green karma. ITM Adam and John. Sir Eagle Eye here providing feed forward to the millennials scream, karma. Hi, Tim, Adam, and John. Sir Eagle Eye here, providing feed forward to the millennials in the group. Anonymous Jamie here. Great meetup.

Thanks, gents. Hi, this is Katie. I'm Sir CB's former sugar mama. Now I'm just the cabana girl. Hey, John and Adam. It's Clinton. This is my first meetup. It was a good time.

Wrap it up, John. All right. That's it from the Cornerstone Pub and Prime in Wyoming, Minnesota. Come on next time. Watch the meetup's website, and we'll get her done. Have a good night. In the morning. Yes, thank you very much.

And we go to... Don't forget your call sign. Oh, yes. Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie. Thank you very much. And we go to Los Angeles for Leo Bravo, Flight of the No Agendas. It's Leo Bravo at meetup number 44. Folks have something to say.

Here we go. Fuck COVID. In the morning. Happy birthday, Jesse. In the morning. This is Jesse, half-jacked. In the morning. This is Eric. Sir Medic Mike, in theacked. In the morning, this is Eric. Sermetic Mike, in the morning.

In the morning. We're almost out of blow, but it's still a party! Equidox! In the morning? In the morning! Oh, my goodness. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen! Good, you!

They are very rowdy over there in Los Angeles. Now to Rosarito, Mexico. Hey, this is Brian of London, and I'm at the Rosarito meetup in Mexico, and people came. Yay. Let's hear from Jesse. Hello, this is Jesse. I'm in Rosarito with Brian of London, having the time of our lives. In the morning, gentlemen.

In the morning. This is Starkers from Hive Fest Freedom Meetup. We're all No Agenda lovers here. Come on down. We're having a great time amongst other freedom lovers. There's others out there. All the best, No Agenda. We love you.

All right. We love you, too. Thank you very much, Sir Brian of London, South Dakota. In the morning, this is Dr. I at the Boots on the Ground meetup in San Diego at the meadery. Hare Krishna. ITM, this is Dame Mama. AI or not AI? You decide. In the morning, Dame Kelly of the Crushed Grapes.

This is Sir Matthew, Black Knight of the Ice Giants. Who needs the hair of the dog when you can drink a mead called the Jackal? Hey, this is Sir Mike, ITM guys. Loving it here with our San Diego No Agenda fans. In the morning, this is Sir Cam. In the morning, this is Halfway Thur. Vic, definitely not a spook. Hey, this is Mike from the Santee.

I'm definitely not a spook, but I think I've seen a guy or two around here that might glow in the dark. In the morning! And our final one comes from Sonoma, Wino Country. In the morning. Adam and John, this is Sir Ricalciton, Crazy Steve II, the Sonoma, Wino Country Meetup 2.0.

John, keep bumping that microphone. I like it. Sirishmeister here asking everyone, are we having fun? That's a good question. That's a good question. It's not a great one. Sir Casey here at the meetup here in Sonoma County. Let's have fun, everybody.

All right. Linda from the Shire of Sebastopol. Special thanks to our sir, Councilman Steve. And always thanks to John and Adam, who are the OG podmasters in a world full of weird podcasts. Okay. Sonoma County. Love is lit. Love is lit. Love is lit Love is lit

This is Max, first meet up in the morning Tighten it up people Tighten it up please I had an idea, I don't know what to say Tighten it up This is Sir Preston calling Casey up for stolen valor He's not a knight Thanks Steve for making this happen

We love you guys In the morning there you go wrapping it up and thanks to Sir Scovey for his written report about the 33rd annual Knapp for Humanity meet up on the 17th it was a great success five in attendance Sir

Psychopath who hosted the golf outing Sir Loin Super Freak of the Catawaba Riverua his smoking hot girlfriend ciara ciara and there was much laughter there you go okay thank you so much and thank you all for sending in your reports and you can hear that there's something going on there is a revival of sorts people are getting together hanging out doing things that we all got traumatized about doing during COVID. And we all have some form of trauma. But this is what you need to get back in the game.

And no one else is doing this, certainly not for a podcast. But if you do, you'll find that that connection brings you protection. Go to noagendameetups.com. You will not regret it. Find one near you. If you can't, start one yourself. It's really easy. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

You want to be where you want to be. Drink it all, hell's a lame. You want to be where everybody feels the same It's like a party Always like a party. Oh, man. Such a good, good groups. We love that.

We're making difference in people's lives. Did you keel over? You still there? Huh? Huh? Huh? ISOs, I got got two here we go i don't think you could hear what they said there no no how about this one uh science

i kind of like that i thought that was kind of cute uh okay i have two, too. Okay. Two, two, two. All right. What you got? Try wow ten. Wow. So, yeah, something else. Oh. Well, what happened to the ending there? Okay, how about this one? Do something. There you go. Do something.

I'll take that. It's a good one. It sounds good. I like the do something. It's top notch. And who that is? Biden. Yeah, of course.

Yeah. notch you know who that is biden yeah of course yeah i wanted to play a quick a couple of clips here because this showed up on american public media's marketplace which is uh isn't that an program uh one of them yeah i think it airs on npr you know we should play the uh it's one of the public yeah elitist voices of america this is npr or pbs and this is um a very i thought a very important important clip because it it uh foretells the future of AI and how AI is going to fail. Have you heard of model collapse? No. Model collapse is this.

The problem with AI output right now is that it's really good, but it's sometimes just a little off. Like you're talking to chat GPT and it's like it's 99% there, but it's 1% inhuman in a kind of a little off. Like you're talking to chat GPT and it's, it's like, it's 99% there, but it's 1% inhuman in a kind of a weird way. And so what model collapse is, is those little inhuman things getting compounded and rolled up, right? Because the AI is being trained on a previous one. So it's kind of learning that weirdness and then it starts turning into a little snowball. Yeah. It starts to get really bad, right? Right. Yeah. I mean, like, it starts to get really bad, right? Right.

Yeah. I mean, like, it's like if you do it over several generations, you know, the first generation, it's kind of making sense. And the second one that's starting to like, you know, just say odd words. An analogy might be if you were to take a famous painting or a photo like the Mona Lisa or, you know, a picture of King Kong on top of the Empire State Building and you were to photocopy it and then photocopy the photocopy and then photocopy the photocopy. Eventually, it starts to sort of look...

The guy's got a weird cadence. What is this guy? Oh, they both are weird. No, they're both very weird. But, you know, they're just trying to make... They're trying to explain in very simple terms what model collapse is. State Building. And you were to photocopy it and then photocopy the photocopy and then photocopy the photocopy eventually it

starts to sort of look really weird because the photocopy is sort of you know 99 accurate but that one percent inaccuracy will change maybe the contrast or the color uh make it a little too white a little too black and then after the hundredth time you've got a really weird looking picture so first of all i think your observation is and i can say this with some certainty is make it a little too white, a little too black. And then after the hundredth time, you've got a really weird looking picture. So first of all, I think your observation is, and I can say this with some certainty, is either Adderall or Vyvanse. That would make a lot of sense for this age group. But this is model collapse, where you, you know, in the case of the type of AI you've been playing around with,

where you type in some words, it creates an image. And then you post that image to the internet, either on your social media or in the newsletter, it gets out there. The AI sucks it up again. And then before you know it, you don't have five, six fingers, you got 20 fingers, everything gets all messed up because the AI keeps learning from its own mistakes. And this has implications. What are the implications of model collapse? Well, the implications are that, you know, maybe all of these language models are over the next few years going to start to become worse and worse and worse, right? That's one possibility. If model collapse is really a serious thing and open AI and Google and Microsoft and everyone just keeps on scraping the internet and feeding it to,

to train their models. They, they could get much worse models and we could be using models that answer, you know, even more unpredictably and even wronger than they do now. Wronger, wronger, even wronger.

I think, I think, I think this is a real problem. I think it's not why not to correct these things somewhere along the line there are people known as coders ah no wait but that's the beauty of it yes you're right there is a solution to model collapse surprise it's humans i doubt that's the way it's going to go because i think all these people that run these models create these models are going to see this happening and get very worried about it and they're either going to not release a new model that's you know even more deranged than existing models uh they'll probably try and find some way to they'll find some way to cope with it fix it

right like you could pay humans just to write new prose for you you could say like we you know i need i need a billion more lines of stuff. Please just write stuff, write anything so that we can feed it the model. You know, that's one thing you could do. I don't think you can hire humans to write a billion lines of anything, but okay. Say it again? Well, he said you can hire

humans to write a billion lines. I don't think so. He's talking about prose. He's literally saying... Yeah, I know. That's what he said. Yeah, so this whole... But you can't... Nobody writes a billion lines. No, he's on Vyvanse. The point is that the only way to make AI work, it can't self-learn. It can't self-learn because it feeds all its mistakes back into itself in a recursive manner,

and it winds up turning into blubber the stuff please just write stuff write anything so that we can feed it the model you know that's that that's one thing they could do the other thing is they could maybe try to uh save you know shards of the of the older training data sets and use them to sort of freshen things up there's a lot of different ai techniques you can use and i think they're going to have to lean into discovering even new ones to cope with this over the next five to 10 years. Yeah. No,

I'm all in on this, this, this, and by the way, it just shows that AI is, is bunk. It's bunk. Well,

it's not AI. That's for sure. It's just a tech. It's a technology to, you know, iterative technology is used for all kinds of good things. Including our art generator. It's not good things.

They're horrible things. They're no good. Well, talking about no good, I have my last clip. Now, you don't give a crap about what I'm saying. You just want to get to your last clip. No, no, I do give a crap about what you're saying. I just think it's bull crap. AI is a very strong technology.

It's going to have a lot of implications in both the art world and elsewhere. Oh, okay. All right. You know what? It's going to eat the world. We're all going to die. I didn't say that.

I'm going to give you Elon's number. I think it's going nowhere. This is not going anywhere. It will not have strong implications we can agree to disagree uh new york city robocop another ai invention robocops in new york city the nypd today rolling out a new security robot to patrol around the Times Square subway station. The 420-pound device will be working from 6 in the morning to midnight, while accompanied by an actual cop. Here's Mayor Eric Adams announcing the launch at a press conference.

We are committed to exploring innovative tools to continue to make this city the safest big city in America. And this robot, K5, it has the potential to serve as an important tool in our toolbox. The robot will be actively recording videos throughout its shift for the NYPD to review. Officials say the machine doesn't have facial recognition and it won't be recording audio. It'll be on duty for two months as a pilot program. What good is it? Well, I don't know. It seems to me that's your AI right there. No big implications.

No, it's just dumb. It's going to be fantastic. They say, look, don't turn the sound on. Heaven forbid you catch hearing anything. And second, why not have facial recognition? The cop can't do it. I'm still blown away by you saying that AI will have significant implications in the art world. Have you seen the art that we had to moan about because it was so crap?

Nobody's using the good stuff. There is no good stuff. Oh. There is no good stuff. Oh. There is no good stuff. There's good stuff, believe me. Where's the output of the good stuff? I could send you some links to some stuff that's, you know, got plenty of high quality output. It's just, it's astonishing, some of it.

Where's the... It's completely destroyed the spot art business for sure what is spot art business well when you see you read an article and there's a little piece of art in the middle just to kind of emphasize aspects of the article it's called spot art people scatter spot art throughout lots of uh generally essays Wow, that's going to upset the world. It's a big deal. I used to have a spot art guy when I was at Mac user and they got rid of him and they started using just pull called call outs, which is just blowing up the type real big. And I demanded to get my spot art guy back. And I did.

my spot art guy back and i did the spot art will suck up its own spot art and it'll just it'll just the fidelity will fade over time yeah okay this is a money grab for this is the new blockchain no way i'm just um you know what to coin a phrase i'm not buying it oops i don't know why i did that it's ai ai oh with ai that wouldn't have happened yeah yeah that's true that's true oh my goodness well comic strip blogger no need to post anything he's like there's lots of money to be made in ai if you're an ai programmer oh yeah that's where the money is well we shall see we shall see uh coming up uh noagendastream.com we have that larry show and we have end of show mixes's see, who do we have here? Somehow something got messed up. We have Dee's Laughs. And we have Nostradamus.

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