No Agenda - 1599 - "Drop the Op"

Starting point is 00:00:00 Spreadinating. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all wondering where, how, and why did Pete Davidson become a sex symbol? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Wow, man, you guys in California are preoccupied with the wrong things. Nobody cares about Pete Davidson anymore. Taco Bell does. Really? Nobody cares about Pete Davidson anymore. Taco Bell does.

Starting point is 00:00:49 Really? Is there a commercial? Oh, A? Oh, no. What are you watching that you get Taco Bell commercials? I haven't seen a commercial in years. I watch television to look for clips. So, speaking of clips clips we had the eclipse yesterday oh yeah

Starting point is 00:01:06 we had it too oh yeah we had the it was the 95% it wasn't full like yours down there but although no yours wasn't quite 100% full but you got one coming in April that's 100% and it's going to be in Texas yes yes 100% well the one yesterday

Starting point is 00:01:23 was a was a jip was a total jip it wasn't cool no no it wasn't cool you don't know what jip is no we we got a we got a ring of fire okay but it didn't get dark it was what what what what what do you what are you from what we had cloud cover oh you got a real coming through a bunch of fog you got a real not only didn't get dark you wouldn't know it it even happened so fredericksburg was full it wasn't like what we expect for the full eclipse in april but it was full and i know it was full because we had dinner with some new friends. Remember I told you I had my birthday dinner and this guy

Starting point is 00:02:08 bought our dinner? Yeah, the guy from across the room winked at you afterwards, I understand. Oh yeah. Anyway, so they had a he has a ranch like in Midland or something and he lives in Austin, but they always come through Fredericksburg on their way to the ranch. And that's how we met them.

Starting point is 00:02:30 And they had to stay at the Comfort Inn. They were lucky to get a Comfort Inn room, which is almost a step below La Quinta. Everything was full, but it wasn't over full crazy. And, you know, but people were like, oh, oh, oh, oh. I just don't get it. Why are people so fascinated by it, by the eclipse? What is it that... I've seen a couple of them.

Starting point is 00:02:59 I've seen lots of them. The big boys. Mm-hmm. And moon and sun. And it's fun. It's interesting. I always thought it was interesting when you have a full eclipse, it actually literally gets about 10 degrees colder right on the spot.

Starting point is 00:03:13 Yeah, that didn't happen yesterday either. No, it didn't happen here either. But normally you get this and you can feel it. It's like, oh, oh. And by the way, when that happens, when everyone out there gets to experience this, like 10 degree drop in temperature when the sun gets full eclipse for just a few seconds, think to yourself, ah, the sun has nothing to do with global warming. Okay, well, speaking of that, so this new friend, we're going to call him Paul the Tycoon, the oil tycoon. So we have to, this new friend of yours

Starting point is 00:03:46 has to be named in code? Yeah, I haven't discussed with him yet that I'm going to talk about him on the show. I don't want to ruin my new friendship just yet. So he had a very successful oil company which he took public and then they

Starting point is 00:04:02 sold it and then he had a year that he couldn't do anything. They started a new new one so his new oil company is worth one and a half billion dollars you wouldn't know looking at the guy so this is like oh how interesting texas billionaires they all like that yeah exactly and and it's real like he's a guy that has you know like drills on the ground and oil comes out yes i yes that's how you do that's how you do that's how you do it. That's how you do it. That's how you do it. He's not a wildcatter. It's a wildcatter. He's not a wildcatter. And he says,

Starting point is 00:04:30 and so we're, you know, we're yapping away and ESG comes up. He says, oh, I got to tell you about ESG. All right.

Starting point is 00:04:38 He says, guess who the, and this company is not yet public. Guess what the number one investor is in my company, my oil spur. Guess what the number one investor is in my company, my oil-spurning-out-of-the-ground company. You get one guess, John. I wouldn't have a clue of who to guess.

Starting point is 00:04:59 I mean, Microsoft. I mean, I don't know. No, no. Digitop in the troll room got it right right off the bat. BlackRock. BlackRock. $50 million. Oh No, no. Digitop in the troll room got it right right off the bat. BlackRock. BlackRock. They're just in everything. I wouldn't count that. No, but they're the guys

Starting point is 00:05:11 who started the ESG program. This is Larry Fink's baby. And it's like, oh, if you don't have a high ESG score, then you're uninvestable. And so he explained the mechanics. He said... He backed off on that, by the way, recently. Yeah, a little bit, but the ESG score, then you're uninvestable. And so he explained the mechanics. He said... He backed off on that, by the way, recently.

Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah, a little bit, but the ESG score hasn't gone away. And if you have a low environmental social governance, if you don't have... Oh yeah, he's an oil company. He should be low score. He should be zero, negative score. So 50 million already in,

Starting point is 00:05:43 another 50 million coming from black rock and my new friend paul the oil tycoon says the esg is phenomenal it's great because whenever they tell us oh oh climate change whatever you got to close it well boom price goes up we make out like bandits he says this whole block it's a whole the whole thing is a scam it's a scam he says when we had the public company it was phenomenal oh oh we have to close it well oh it's a problem boom stock price rockets says this whole thing is a scam. If people want to look at the evidence of this, take a look at the chart for Exxon and first look at where Joe Biden was elected and look at the stock price then and look at it now. He also said specifically,

Starting point is 00:06:39 he says, look, I don't like it for our country and the world, but Democrats are good for business. He says, whenever a Democrat's in the White House, it's good for us. Tell it to the 90s. That's when Clinton was in. Those were rockin'. Why don't you soak in that for a bit?

Starting point is 00:06:57 I love saying that. Marinate in that. Why don't you put that in your pipe and smoke it? So I don't know about you, but there's nothing but disinformation everywhere. The whole world is full of disinformation. It's all disinformation everywhere. Disinformation. Now we have reports about disinformation.

Starting point is 00:07:14 Just disinformation. It's crazy. It's happening everywhere. Hallie Jackson has to report. Disinformation. Dismiss. Hallie Jackson. Hallie, who has all kinds of weird sound effects on her show. She's new into NBC Tonight, a research group. By the way,

Starting point is 00:07:29 she mugs. She has a weird mugging face. She's mugging constantly. I don't, you know, I find her annoying. Oh, well, hello. Join the Hallie Annoying Club. Yeah, and this one, her eyes are all, she's all bug-eyed.

Starting point is 00:07:46 Because, oh, oh, it's misinformation. It's a huge problem. New into NBC Tonight, a research group uncovering a network of dozens of accounts. Dozens! Formally known as Twitter. Did you know that X is formally known as Twitter? No. This should be outlawed.

Starting point is 00:08:04 Why do they keep saying this? when is it just going to be x but you can do what i do i don't use x i say twitter.com no i'm just i'm just saying x still twitter.com of dozens of accounts on x formerly known as twitter spread nating spreading rather spread nating oh this is cool. How did she do that? How did she come up with spreadinating? She said spreadinating. She said spreadinating. What is that all of a...

Starting point is 00:08:32 Disseminating and spreading. That's... Okay. Spreadinating. Spreadinating. I think it should be entered into the dictionary. I like it. ...accounts on X, formerly known as Twitter.

Starting point is 00:08:41 Spreadinating what's... Spreading, rather, what's believed to be coordinated posts with disinformation about the war. Oh, it's believed to be coordinated. Posts and videos that have been viewed millions of times. X started suspending some of the accounts after they were contacted by NBC News, but didn't otherwise have any comment. It's something we've seen a lot of over the past few days. Oh, yeah. Take this video saying Hamas militants started a new airstrike on israel

Starting point is 00:09:05 you see that that's that video that is actually from a video game oh no that's not even real you see the exact same video posted to youtube here yeah there's an obvious conclusion to what they're doing here you and you know what's coming and there was this post claiming israel bombed and destroyed an old greek orthodox church in gaza it has something like three million views it has something like three million what kind It has something like 3 million. What kind of news report is that? How many views did it have? Not something like.

Starting point is 00:09:29 It has something like 3 million views. There's a number. It's right there. You can read it. Now she's sounding like a high school girl. It had something like 3 million likes now. And there was this post claiming Israel bombed and destroyed an old Greek Orthodox church in Gaza.

Starting point is 00:09:41 It has something like 3 million views. But the church itself said it hasn't been touched, that any other news is false. All of these posts now have disclaimers on the bottom if you go to Eps and look at the posts, but they're not taken down. And some of them are posted from verified users, making it harder for people to know what's real.

Starting point is 00:09:58 NBC News tech correspondent Jake Ward is joining us now. And Jake, these are just a couple of examples of this. These posts containing misinformation, disinformation, very difficult, especially at a moment like this when people are frankly desperate for information, turning to social media platforms. It is not a clear-cut picture. It is not a clear-cut picture, Hallie. The past few days have just been this vivid lesson in the fact that you literally cannot trust what social media feeds you these days. And even more difficult is the surprise turn of events, which means that legitimate sources of information are slow to react because they were taken just as surprised as so many people were across Israel.

Starting point is 00:10:37 So a very, very difficult moment. But as you say, this is proliferation of misleading content. And when it's not just made up up as in the case of the video game clip you're uh shown there um you know it's it's out of context or out of time oh but trust us legitimate sources it's even hard for us people trust legitimate sources and when you keep going on this route because i have a series of misleading clips provided by pbs i love that which is beyond like misinformation it's a it's a it's a lie well let me set it up let me set it up with another keep no i want to hear more of this yeah and another misinformation clip this is from

Starting point is 00:11:23 cbs the term fake news is a controversial one controversial it's often used to falsely claim that the facts someone doesn't like are just made up but actual fake news takes on a new tone when it's used as a weapon of war misinformation is already cropped up in abundance in the current conflict in the middle East. Jolene Kent has the story. You see a similarity here? The M5M, what they're saying? Oh! Good one! Good start.

Starting point is 00:11:51 Boom! Good start. Wait, hold on. They're trying to give us misinformation in a random explosion. How should we start this report about misinformation? I don't know. Blow something up.

Starting point is 00:12:01 Good one. As the war in Israel and Gaza plays out in real time on social media, experts say bad information and propaganda are spreading on X, formerly known as Twitter. Oh, it's X again, formerly known as Twitter. There's a pattern here. Research group Aletheia detected a network of at least 67 accounts that posted false content about the war. False Russians.

Starting point is 00:12:23 They've received millions of views, including these mistranslated videos of Russian President Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, manipulated to falsely say that Russia will support Palestine if the U.S. supports Israel. Why are 67 accounts so powerful in their influence and why do they not no they are no they are they're very powerful this is elon's whole business model is now being attacked this is this is the point of this and why do they matter it matters whether or not people believe it and the more times that people are able to view content of a similar nature the more opportunities an actor has to convince somebody of something

Starting point is 00:13:06 that may or may not be true. An actor? George Clooney? Who's doing this? What actor? What actor? Brad Pitt? This comes after Elon Musk, the owner of X, laid off much of the team

Starting point is 00:13:16 responsible for monitoring posts when he took over the company. On Tuesday, the European Union sent this letter to the billionaire, asking Musk to immediately remove illegal content and disinformation. My name is Thierry Breton. I have a baguette in my butt. Otherwise, penalties can be imposed. How does this disinformation impact the war and what we know about it?

Starting point is 00:13:38 When we flood people with this sea of unvetted information, much of it deceptive, is we're throwing away the goodwill of our citizens. And we're opening the door to a variety of people that want to manipulate their goodwill. Do you anticipate seeing more of this kind of activity as the war continues? Oh, yes, of course. Yes, we do anticipate that in the coming days

Starting point is 00:14:02 that the information sphere is going to get more complicated and that more actors will be weaponizing information more actors more actors oh she did it again did she just do again x formerly known twitter x formerly twitter has said as of monday they've already removed several hundred accounts including those that are hamas affiliated meantime we've been pressing the other social media companies about this and snapchat tiktok and facebook all say they've increased their resources to fight disinformation oh please so before uh before we get to your clips i'm very interested in those two things one uh this is confirmed i now i don't have a i don't have the tiktok app uh people send me tiktoks

Starting point is 00:14:46 all the time and i open them in the browser and that's what i do and every single time after that tiktok is done that one video the same horrific violent clip pops up from some israeli kid being killed at the uh at the at the at the rave and my my buddy dave he says it must be your cookies no he i don't get it well okay but i'm two people in two different states are seeing the same thing so i there's oh it's a misinformation different from disinformation now before we get before we get into before we go any further with this talking about this conflict what's happening in the middle east adam's gonna read his email here we go fine there's the old clip yeah you dug it up it's called a jingle it's called the jingle

Starting point is 00:15:35 on the no agenda show. That's not tedious. I want to remind everybody that when we deconstruct these things, same with COVID, lockdowns, Ukraine, masks. It is bad for business.

Starting point is 00:16:02 It is not a great business model that we have. It's not like people go, oh, yeah, this is great. No, people walk away from the show. They go, oh, I bought in hook, line, and sinker, and they're telling me I'm wrong. You guys suck. I've been listening to your show, No Agenda,

Starting point is 00:16:23 for two to four years. Wait, wait. Two to four years? I know. That's a very interesting range. I've never heard that. Two to four years, and I've always enjoyed it. However, your coverage of the atrocities by the monstrous Hamas, including the beheading of innocent babies,

Starting point is 00:16:42 by the monstrous Hamas, including the beheading of innocent babies, babies torn from their mother's bellies, is so appalling. I'm sorry, I don't recall babies torn from their mother's bellies. It's a new one. There is indeed ample footage, pictures to prove what happened, and your glib laughter with John. Send us one. Your glib laughter with John. Send us one.

Starting point is 00:17:05 Your glib laughter with John. Well, there are no words. Your excuse that you're just evaluating the media coverage is cheap and not even believable. To say I'm disappointed and disgusted would be an understatement. I want to remind people out there who have these kinds of complaints, send them to Adam, because he'll read them on the air.

Starting point is 00:17:30 You know, it's taken on a whole new level. Adamatcurry.com, by the way. You know that dude who was so mad about when we started talking about trans, Maoism? Tim Pool? No. No. Ironhide1972. Iron Mike? started talking about trans maoism and pool no no iron iron iron hide 1972 iron mike iron hide 1972 he was he was he was putting pictures up on no gen art generator that we suck he was you

Starting point is 00:17:55 posted oh yeah we i think we bounced him didn't we no i i mean uh paul couture bounced him from that. But then he showed up in the troll room last show. So now I get an email from one of our producers who happens to also own the venue where he's organizing a meetup. It's a burger joint. And the email he received, which I'm sure many... Is the hater you're talking about organizing a meetup? No, no, no, no. he received, which I'm sure many... Is the hater you're talking about organizing a meetup? No, no, no, no. One of our

Starting point is 00:18:26 producers who's organizing a meetup, who organizes one regularly, who has a venue, he owns the venue in this case, as the venue owner, he received an email from the hater. Okay. Letting you know that a group from the No Agenda podcast will be at

Starting point is 00:18:42 your establishment on October 14th at 5 p.m. This group follows a very homophobic and transphobic podcast. I would use all caution when serving these people. Wow. That was a good wow. That was a very good wow. That's a very good wow because that's a very good wow, because that's a wow moment.

Starting point is 00:19:05 Yeah. So this prick, let's call him what he is, decides he doesn't like the show for whatever reason. And he goes after a venue for the meetup, but coincidentally, the venue is owned by the guy organizing the meetup, so he sends the mail right on to us, which you just read. That is unbelievable that guy is a true a-hole i wish these people wouldn't even listen to the show they get better things to do there's other shows they can go to well this why harass us because why trying to ruin

Starting point is 00:19:38 a good meetup i mean come on that's sick i actually tried to talk him off the ledge when this first started and i was emailing him personally and then he decided that the prick yeah then he then he published all my emails you know i was like dude i pray for him i forgive this guy's sicko i forgive him i forgive him he has issues i forgive him i hope it works out for him all right now it's it won't now on to your uh your disinfo clips from NPR, which I'm very excited about. No, no. These are PBS. NewsHour.

Starting point is 00:20:08 I'm sorry. I mean, NPR, PBS. I mean, let's see. Yeah. What difference does it make? Hold on a second. Let's do it. Let's do it right.

Starting point is 00:20:16 Elitist Voices of America. This is NPR. Or PBS. See? It doesn't matter. So, I have a couple of these. I got some intro ones that we can go into, which is the...

Starting point is 00:20:29 This is Brooks and Capehart. Oh, my... You know, I'm going to have to start banning these clips. I don't blame you. Nobody watches this anymore. They have zero traction. They still think it's Brooks and Dunn. Brooks and Dunn. Brooks and Dunn. Brooks and Brooks and Dunn.

Starting point is 00:20:46 Brooks and Dunn. Never was Brooks and Dunn. No, that's a country duo. What's Brooks and the- Garth Brooks. What's the other guy? K-Part. Wait, before-

Starting point is 00:20:58 Before Brooks. Before K-Part. Who was it then? Shields. Oh, Brooks and Shields. See, we don't even remember the old guys. I remember. Oh, well, okay. Case in point. All right, let's go. What are we doing? part who was it then shields oh brooks and shields see we don't even remember the old guys i remember oh well okay case in point all right let's go what are we doing examples i'm gonna lead into

Starting point is 00:21:12 the into the to the egregious re-edited clip i'm so that they used to become aghast and pissed off and it's on it's ridiculous but let's first get us in the mood by listening to these two boneheads. In the mood. In the mood. This is, I'm going to start with Brooks Putin-Hammis. Rules of War. I thought this was one of Joe Biden's best weeks as president. You know, he was a voice of moral clarity.

Starting point is 00:21:38 That's great right there. His best week as president. When he said, hey, I've seen proof of the babies decapitated. It's true, it's right, certified, verified. Oh, I've seen proof of the babies decapitated. It's true. It's right. Certified, verified. Oh, I'm sorry. No, the president was confused. He was one of the early voices to remind everybody that what Hamas has become looks like ISIS, sort of a death cult. He did in the face of divisions on the left. There are a lot of mainstream liberals who are appalled by what happened. There are more progressive voices, many who think this is

Starting point is 00:22:03 a legitimate part of decolonization. And yet Joe Biden knows Israeli history. He knows the Palestinians. He's been doing this for a long time. And he knows that this is a case of someone who wants to, of a group that wants to destroy Israel and push the Jews into the sea. And so he said that. I think he's also making the case, which I think Zelensky's a little ahead of him on, that Ukraine and Israel, the war against Hamas and against Putin, are joined. What? There are wars against barbarism. What? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:34 What did he just say? That Putin and Hamas are the same. And Ukraine and Israel's the same. Wow. Wow. Okay. Yeah?rael is the same wow wow okay yeah it's the same it's the same except reverse but we can't actually say no it's the same it's the same hello so you have a big country like russia is just like hamas the big country in the big country the big the big elephant in the fight okay all right okay good let's's go Brooks to K part two. And I think he sees that clearly.

Starting point is 00:23:08 And so I just think it was just a marvelous display of moral clarity and real storytelling. For a guy who's covering grand narrative storytelling and rhetoric is not always the great gift. But I just thought it was a magnificent week. Moral clarity and grand storytelling. What's your assessment of the administration's response? I agree with David 100%. I agree 100%. It's the Secretary of State who spoke from the heart next to Prime Minister Netanyahu. It's Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin being there earlier in the day today, also showing solidarity. But what happened a week ago, tonight or tomorrow,

Starting point is 00:23:49 is really, it's beyond disturbing. And I just feel compelled. You know, as an African-American, I understand the ancestral pain and terror felt by my Jewish friends and Jews around the world by what happened. This was not, what Hamas did,

Starting point is 00:24:11 was not the usual Middle East back and forth. This was barbaric. This is literally what you get called out for if you say, I have a black friend. You know, that's a wrong, that's a bad take. But you can say, I have a Jewish friend. Oh, I have a black friend, you know, that's a wrong, that's a bad take. No, but you can say, I have a Jewish friend.

Starting point is 00:24:27 Oh, that's great. I have a Jewish friend. Okay. I have a Jewish friend. Yeah, I got a Jewish friend. Oh, man. That's nuts. So they're pushing this barbaric thing.

Starting point is 00:24:36 So, of course. So they're building up to this. And now I'm going to take us into the egregious editing of a trump clip to make him say stuff he didn't say and i have the original clips i dug them up okay the way we do yes and i want to compare one to the other but let's start but it's also the reaction first they edit a clip and then they react to it even though the clips are fake they react to it and they go out they go off the rails with how bad trump is as a person. This is the intro to this clip and this is Brooks Trump edit intro.

Starting point is 00:25:10 As we talk about the Biden administration's response, his predecessor, Donald Trump, drew wide criticism and condemnation this past week for faulting Netanyahu, for calling Hezbollah very smart in his remarks. Oh, it's another. It's a new very fine people. It's the very smart people now. Oh, this is good. This is good. Okay, where do we go now? Okay, so first of all, he makes, he mentioned, he, that's the host guy, the black guy.

Starting point is 00:25:38 He mentions the Netanyahu, and then he mentions that Trump says Hezbollah is very smart and now we go to, they take the clip they butcher a clip and they don't even have it from the same feed so it's a mess and I tried to even

Starting point is 00:25:57 clean it up with Adobe but hell with it, let's leave the mess the way it is because Adobe actually doesn't work on Trump Oh, interesting and I've noticed this Adobe actually doesn't work on Trump. No, very, very, and I've noticed this before. Adobe does not work on Trump. They hate Trump.

Starting point is 00:26:11 They must. So they probably do Silicon Valley. So let's go to, this is the Brooks Trump and this has got the edited clip. This is two. Okay. I'll never forget that BB Netanyahu let us us down that was a very terrible thing i will say that and they said gee i hope hezbollah doesn't attack from the north because that's the most

Starting point is 00:26:33 vulnerable spot and we can contrast that to what ronSantis and Nikki Haley had to say. Israel has a right to defend itself, and that means do that to the hilt. You have to uproot the terrorist infrastructure, these networks, and Hamas needs to be no more. This is sick, and we have to treat sick people the way they deserve to be treated and eliminate them. Your response to what Donald Trump had to say. Your response to what Donald Trump had to say. The clip you showed is exhibit number whatever it is of why he should never, ever again be entrusted with the power and responsibility that comes with sitting in the Oval Office. I am happy to be wrong about the reaction from the Republican presidential field. I thought they would follow form and not criticize Trump at all for fear of engendering the rage of their base. But Governor Haley, Governor DeSantis, Governor Christie, former Vice President Mike Pence,

Starting point is 00:27:40 most of them criticized Trump, and I applaud them for that. But there's no way that guy should be president of the United States again by that clip alone. So, you know, when we deconstruct clips and we're looking at the media and we get another kind of feedback I read earlier, these a-holes are just politicizing it for their own for their own ego, whatever it is. Oh, whatever it is is let's keep trump out that's that's disgusting wait until you hear the original trump clips i can't wait we can also play i think brooks reacts to this same edited little clip where he says netanyahu for first trump brings in netanyahu then he sayszbollah is smart and says they're going to attack from the north or something. It's a very confused. It's a really screwed up edit.

Starting point is 00:28:32 And then they bring in, as you heard, DeSantis talking about Hamas, which is not what Trump was talking about. And then Nikki Haley saying it's these people are sick, kind of indicating Trump is sick, which is not what that was about at all. That was not what that was about. So this is a real, real... Hack job, hack job. Exactly. And here's the followed by Brooks. It's also a reminder of how Donald Trump's isolationist views

Starting point is 00:28:59 have really realigned the Republicans' approach to foreign policy. It's stunning. I mean, well, first that Donald Trump clip. Everything is about Donald Trump. Like a thousand people get murdered and it's all about Donald Trump. And the party has, you know, it was the party of anti-communism. It was the party of an American-led world order. It was the party of containment against Russia, against the Soviet Union.

Starting point is 00:29:24 And now it's very much the opposite. And as I look at the Republican Party, I just want to make sure they're going to fund Ukraine. So now these are two guys that are supposed to be arguing with each other to give people perspective when they watch the PBS News Hour. But no, they're two guys that are in total agreement. Neither one of them are representative of anything other than one lone pro-ukraine view but let's go back to that clip that they butchered and let's listen to trump's actually this is a long clip but you need to hear the whole thing in context the six and this is actually in good sorry this is in good this is good quality this is the trump unedited comments regarding Hezbollah being smart.

Starting point is 00:30:07 The six billion dollars was a tremendous amount of money, but nothing compared to the hundreds of billions of dollars that Biden allowed them to make in oil and other things. Hundreds of billions that became a rich nation in three years. That's why they're doing this. Have so much money. They don't know what to do with it. They had no money. They were broke broke and then there was the inevitable attack four days later which i predicted and then two nights ago i read all of biden's security people can you imagine national defense people and they said gee i hope hezbollah doesn't attack from the north because that's the most vulnerable spot i said wait a minute you know hezbollah doesn't attack from the north because that's the most vulnerable spot. I said, wait a minute. You know, Hezbollah is very smart.

Starting point is 00:30:47 They're all very smart. The press doesn't like when they say it. You know, I said that President Xi of China, 1.4 billion people, he controls it with an iron fist. I said, he's a very smart man. They killed me the next day. I said he was smart. What am I going to say? But Hezbollah, they're very smart.

Starting point is 00:31:01 We're smart, whatever I'm going to say. But Hezbollah, they're very smart. And they have a national defense minister or somebody saying, I hope Hezbollah doesn't attack us from the north. So the following morning they attacked. They might not have been doing it, but if you listen to this jerk, you would attack from the north because he said that's our weak spot. Whoever heard of officials saying on television that they hope the enemy doesn't attack in a certain area?

Starting point is 00:31:30 Now, unless it's a con job. But you know what a con job is? You're waiting there ready. You want them if you want them, but they weren't ready. They weren't ready. You know, say what you want. Israel was not ready. This was a big surprise.

Starting point is 00:31:42 This was a terrible thing that happened. They weren't ready. But if you wanted them to attack because you've got a million people there with guns and you're going to blast the hell, then you do exactly. But they didn't have that. They didn't have that. Biden's national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, even bragged just days before the attack that the Middle East seems to be quite quiet. That was good. They uh they really honestly what they've done it's a shame yeah okay now what a couple of things about that wow this is all in context it's fine what he said this is all he's not complimenting hezbollah like they all like to imagine but where did you notice there was no mention of Netanyahu in that entire two-minute clip?

Starting point is 00:32:25 They edited that together. And it was, in the intro piece, it was two different pieces of audio. That's the first thing I noticed. Yeah, they did a botched job of that. I mean, they could have had good quality because it was all from the same speech. In fact, I have the Netanyahu piece. And the Netanyahu piece, which they just pulled out of context and dropped it in as a cheat as a as a sleazy lowest form of journalism thing you could possibly do which

Starting point is 00:32:51 they did on pbs uh i have the netanyahu piece which is actually standalone is very interesting and could have been used as a jumping off point for a big discussion and i'm surprised that they didn't do that because it's more interesting than what they did, which was just Trump batch. But listen to this. This is Trump on Netanyahu. It's a backgrounder that's kind of interesting. The savage attacks on Israel happened for three reasons. Biden loosened my...

Starting point is 00:33:21 This is not the grudge clip. This is the regular... Oh, I'm sorry. It's the grudge clip. I'm sorry. You're right. Good catch. I did have a bad experience with Israel, though. When we took out Soleimani, it was us and Israel working as a group. And we knew where he was. We knew how he was coming in. We knew the plane. We knew everything. We worked on it for weeks, for months, actually. But we worked on it for weeks. And months actually, but we worked on it for weeks. The night before, I don't think this has ever been told, they'll say, oh, it's classified information. Well, maybe it is, but I don't think so.

Starting point is 00:33:53 Israel was going to do this with us, and it was being planned and working on it for months, and now we had everything all set to go. everything all set to go. And the night before it happened, I got a call that Israel will not be participating in this attack. So let's do it. And he came on to the plane and we followed him right from the Situation Room. We followed the whole thing. And about 15 seconds later, it was all over and we did it. But I'll never forget, I'll never forget that B.B. Netanyahu let us down. That was a very terrible thing, I will say that. So we were disappointed by that, very disappointed, but we did the job ourself and it was absolute precision,

Starting point is 00:34:36 magnificent, beautiful job. And then B.B. tried to take credit for it. That wasn't good. That didn't make me feel too good, but that's all right. So they got to strengthen themselves up. Wow. That is a little piece of info we didn't know about. We had no idea, but you notice that little part in that clip where it says Bibi let us down is the little piece they took out.

Starting point is 00:35:00 They chopped it from that and put it on the front end of the other thing. Let me play that intro again. As we talk about the Biden administration's response, his predecessor, Donald Trump, drew wide criticism and condemnation this past week. It's actually the beginning of clip two. It's part two. I'm sorry. Yeah. I'll never forget that Bibi Netanyahu let us down. That was a very terrible thing. I will say that.

Starting point is 00:35:23 And they said, gee, I hope hezbollah doesn't attack from the north wow wow that i mean you should you should be fired from journalism for doing that they should all be fired from pbs should pbs should take a knee for for that this is the one of the most egregious examples of editing and false. This is misinformation. That's misinformation. Yes. Blatant.

Starting point is 00:35:51 Blatant. On your national treasure, PBS or NPR. So I'm one of those two. Same thing. So those are the original clips. And you can see that they totally, this is a lie. And Brooks and Capehart should be ashamed of themselves for going along with it and then making a big fuss about what a jerk Trump is. Unbelievable.

Starting point is 00:36:10 Well, it's not unbelievable. It's believable. It's totally believable. No, it's not unbelievable because it happens. It's totally believable, yeah. So that's pretty much the presentation. Good presentation. I like it.

Starting point is 00:36:20 I like it. Well, of course, we were told. And I want to say it again. Do not send your money to these people send it to us yes we don't have tote bags but we can use the money that's for sure so of course everybody was all riled up about the day of rage this morning law enforcement officers across the country on heightened alert after hamas's call for a global day of rage the los angeles county sheriff's office is pulling personnel from specialized units to increase visibility. In New York, congregants from dozens of synagogues prayed for peace.

Starting point is 00:36:57 As helicopters watched for suspicious vehicles from above and boats with radiation detectors patrolled the waters, the NYPD telling its officers to prepare for 12-hour shifts. We have directed the NYPD to surge additional resources to schools, houses of worship to ensure that they are safe. So, as far as I know. I got some day, I got a day of rage clip. Okay. This is. So, as far as I know... I got a Day of Rage clip. Okay. There's always something going on in the world. Yeah, there's something.

Starting point is 00:37:30 That's why I think this is a good example. This is the various 13th, which is the Day of Rage. Stabbings. A Jewish teacher in France is reportedly dead after a knife attack. Two others have been injured. An asylum seeker reportedly went on a stabbing spree, attacking various people, screaming Allah. Notice, notice, we've gone to asylum seekers now, which is the word they use in Europe. We're going to use it everywhere. They've been using this for years.

Starting point is 00:37:58 Asylum seeker. Asylum seeker. Reportedly went on a stabbing spree, attacking various people, screaming Allahu Akbar. France's President Emmanuel Macron visited the school on Friday afternoon. Also, a staffer at the Israeli embassy in China was stabbed on the sidewalk in Beijing. Footage shows the diplomat being stabbed multiple times by a man in white. So that was your day of rage. Not very successful. But they got us all riled up.

Starting point is 00:38:27 I think got everybody riled up. Didn't get me riled up. Didn't get somebody riled up. We didn't get riled up. You must have a clip. No agenda people don't. No, no agenda people don't get riled up. We just don't get riled up.

Starting point is 00:38:36 We don't. Because we know. We know what they're doing to us. Now I want to talk about the military industrial complex. A lot of people benefit from this crisis in the Middle East. I just got a message, I should say, from Sir Brian of London, boots on the ground, who, you know, there's funerals this guy's attending. He is right in the middle of it. And I've been back and forth with him for days. And he's having a rough go of what's happening. And he sent a video.

Starting point is 00:39:12 And he has on his, and I take his credibility quite high. He's a knight. That Israel is now using the laser iron beam. Not Iron Dome, but the iron beam. And it's cool. They have a laser now shooting things out of the sky. Yep. Yep.

Starting point is 00:39:31 Okay, a couple of things before you go into these clips. Did you see the Richard Engel clip that's going around showing how the Iron Dome supposedly works? I don't think I did. You see these missiles flying into the air, and then they're taking a right turn and then going in the opposite direction? Mm-hmm. Have you seen those clips? Well, I've seen seen it i don't know if it's the one you're talking about i've seen well probably i just don't understand what's going on with these clips because everyone says oh there's an iron dome at work and there's a missile going up and then turning around and going the other way it i thought the iron dome was patriot missiles that were shooting these things out of the sky that's what i thought well now but now they have you can see laser beams in fact jewish laser beams i mean it's a little crazy but and i'm sure they're ours but these they

Starting point is 00:40:17 have directed energy weapons now they're using which is it's quite like whoa okay didn't expect to see that. Anyway, we need to go to the military industrial complex, which both of these people are a part of it in some way. Catherine Herridge, of course, the pixie girl, who was read in on all things military and intelligence. And John Bolton, who was just a huge mustached a-hole. And just a quick couple of clips here, because you don't hear from this guy for years, and he's off the stage, but he's back. Earlier today, I spoke with former national

Starting point is 00:40:49 security advisor to President Trump, Ambassador John Bolton, about the situation in the Middle East. As we head into the weekend as a former national security advisor, what indicators are you going to be watching? Well, I think the big unknown question at this point is what happens with Hezbollah in the north. I think the evidence is clear beyond real dispute here that the signal caller in this operation is Iran. They armed and prepared Hamas. I think they unleashed them at a time they thought would be beneficial to Iran in the region. And the issue is rather part of the strategy that they're following is to get the Israelis sucked into Gaza in a very heavy way militarily and then to unleash Hezbollah from the north. I think there are some signs along the northern border, nothing conclusive, but I think that's the main point of danger at this point.

Starting point is 00:41:40 Yes, okay. Thanks. I mean, my sister in Italy could have gone on your show and said that. Let's go a little deeper into that. Let's bring her on next time. Yeah, get on Catherine Hatch. John Bolton, you're so interesting. Let's take that a step further.

Starting point is 00:41:57 Given the scope and the sophistication of the Hamas attack, do you believe that another shoe is going to drop? Oh, another shoe is going to drop. I think it's very likely. And I think Hezbollah is the most likely implementer of that. But there may be terrorist attacks around the region. Friday has been declared a day of jihad in the region and around the world.

Starting point is 00:42:20 So this really could be the beginning of a much longer process here. Not clear at all what that will entail. So this really could be the beginning of a much longer process here. We hope so. Not clear at all what that will entail. But I think anybody who thinks this is going to be over in a few days is unfortunately mistaken. Nothing happened, Bolton. Yeah, nothing. He's such a prognosticator. Yeah, he's a genius.

Starting point is 00:42:37 Oh, it's a jihad day. Oh, not Sunday, by the way. It's two days later. It's going to take a long time. We're going to need some money. We need to start printing some money. We need money. We need money. What does it mean here at home?

Starting point is 00:42:48 Law enforcement officials have been telling CBS News and other media outlets that they're seeing no signs of a specific or credible threat. This is so much fun to play that after the global day of rage. I think at the moment the main threat area is in the Middle East. I think it's Israel that's the target. But I think it's almost that's the target. But I think it's almost certain that having... Wow. Wow. Wow. What a genius. Hey, look at my mustache. But I think it's almost certain that having missed this attack to begin with, not just Israeli intelligence missing it, but our own intelligence uh community whatever evidence there

Starting point is 00:43:26 was they didn't draw the right conclusions you know the next question you should ask is what else have we missed what else have we missed oh we need more spy gear where it's not good you know i just just as a as a little side note here um this is fantastic story which checks out and i'm not going to say it's related to it per se but you've heard of pegasus the spyware pegasus the company pegasus i think so and so pegasus was you know that's the israeli uh spyware that's on everybody's phone and they've sold it all around the world our our u.S. agencies were using it. Pegasus is great. You can track everybody. You got a phone, Pegasus is on it.

Starting point is 00:44:09 So when Trump came in and the Obama-Biden administration left, Blinken and who was the assistant, the deputy director of CIA, Avril Haines, I think is her name. Haiti something. It could be. They all started a lobbying firm called West Executive. And they started lobbying for a competing firm.

Starting point is 00:44:40 And that firm was also with a P. Hold on a second. Not Palantir. No, no, no, no, no. This is all follow-up to Palantir. Now, they started lobbying. Of course, it's great when you lobby, you know, as a former administration. Paragon.

Starting point is 00:45:00 Paragon is what it's called. And they started lobbying. Oh, Paragon. You've got to have Paragon. And they started lobbying, oh, Paragon. You got to have Paragon and this is no good, this Pegasus software. And coincidentally, if you recall, the big stink about Khashoggi was that it was Pegasus software that the Israeli Pegasus company had sold to Saudi Arabia that got him killed. You remember that? Do you remember that?

Starting point is 00:45:29 I vaguely remember. A little side story. Yeah. So that was probably planted by these guys because they get back in with Biden. And in March of this year, Biden writes up this huge executive order on prohibition on use by the United states government of certain commercial spyware that poses risk to national security and wouldn't you know that was written precisely to outlaw pegasus and have this other software be the software and they haven't sold it to saudi arabia so it's just

Starting point is 00:45:58 a little side note but when you have the israeli government government highly relying on one software for spying on anybody with a phone, and that's Pegasus, and all of a sudden it's no good and everyone has to have Paragon, and that company starts to bleed employees, bleed clients, that may have contributed in some way to some lapses in security. that may have contributed in some way to some lapses in security. I have no proof for that, but I just thought that was interesting that Sullivan and all these a-holes, including Ehud Barak, they were all involved in this lobbying firm, and then they get in, and boom, there you go, they get rid of that company, and this new company is supposed to be it,

Starting point is 00:46:40 and I don't even know if the Israelis are using it. That was just a little side note. So when Bolton says, oh, you know maybe the lapse in security maybe our lap maybe it was the shitty software you brought in what are the u.s or no lapse in security also possible what are the u.s government's best options to secure the release of the hostages. Bomb Iran. Well, I think at this point, unfortunately, given how caught by surprise we were, that it's going to take rescue efforts under extraordinarily difficult circumstances. I mean, I think the administration is correct to seek a diplomatic approach there in Qatar today. I just don't think Hamas is in a mood to bargain. I think they've got... Did he say gutter? I think he said gutter. He I just don't think Hamas is in a mood to bargain. I think they've got some very...

Starting point is 00:47:25 Did he say gutter? I think he said gutter. He didn't say cutter. He said gutter. That's what he said. In gutter today. I just don't think Hamas is in a mood to bargain. I think they've got some very valuable bargaining chips that they're going to get a much higher price for, at least that's what they think. I think the hostages are in grave danger. And I think, or price for, at least that's what they think. I think the hostages are in grave danger. And I think therefore any further time that goes by before rescue efforts begin puts their lives in even greater danger than it is already. All right. So Bolton is, they're just asking anybody to come

Starting point is 00:47:56 on who's connected to anything think tank, anything money, anything hateful. These are all just horrible people who are just talking out of their butt but the best by far the best person the best representative of the military industrial complex on mainstream m5m television is definitely lindsey graham lindsey graham is rocking it and he is making very sure we understand that iran is in our sights moss in the last hour announcing it's going to begin to execute hostages and post video evidence online for every israeli airstrike your thoughts on this moment senator well for every israeli or american hostage executed Hamas, we should take down an Iranian oil refinery.

Starting point is 00:48:51 The only way you're going to keep this war from escalating is to hold Iran accountable. The only way you keep the war from escalating is by bombing another country. How much more death and destruction do we have to take? By creating more, Lindsay. From the Iranian regime. I am confident this was planned and funded by the Iranians. Hamas is a bunch of animals who deserve to be treated like animals. So if I was Israel, I would go in on the ground.

Starting point is 00:49:18 There is no truce to be had here. I would dismantle Hamas. This is the best opportunity Israel has to destroy Hamas. Take it to the Iranians. If you harm one American in Syria by using your Iranian militia against us in Syria, if you escalate the war by urging Hezbollah to attack Israel in the north, if Hamas kills one American Israeli hostage, we're going to blow up your oil refineries and put you out of business. It is now time to take the war to the Ayatollah's backyard. I mean, he's

Starting point is 00:49:49 channeling Bush now. No, he's channeling McCain. His old buddy. Yeah, of course. And if you remember, I wish we could find the clip where McCain is singing the Barbara Ann song as bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. I'm sure we have it. Hold on. We do have it. It's Ann song as Bom Bom Bom Bom Bom Iran. I'm sure

Starting point is 00:50:06 we have it. Hold on. We do have it. It's just, God knows what it's called. Is it this one? Yeah, no, this is all Bom Bom Bom Iran Bom Bom Bom Bom Bom Iran. Bom Bom Bom Bom Bom Iran. I think this is our own version.

Starting point is 00:50:21 Bom Bom Bom Bom Iran. I like it, though. Bomber and, bom, bom, bom, bomber and, yeah. So the ghost of John McCain is still with us. Is still with us, and he's being channeled through Lindsey Graham. Now, if you think that was good. Who is his buddy? And just as an aside, this is exactly what we talked about.

Starting point is 00:50:49 This has always been on the radar. This is pure evil that exists in the world. It's not even one group of people. It's just evil that has taken over. And these people don't actually care about dead Israelis or dead Palestinians. They don't care about any of that. They don't care about you. They don't care about any of that. They don't care about you. They don't care about me.

Starting point is 00:51:06 They just care about the programming they have in their brain to just bomb stuff, more money, get it into the markets. We need stuff to happen. This is what we live for. What I would do is I would bomb Iran's oil infrastructure. The money financing terrorism. This is on CNN now. It comes from Iran. It's time for this terrorist state to pay a price for financing and supporting all this chaos.

Starting point is 00:51:32 Yes, if you're the Iranians, if we're up to me, this war escalates. I'm coming after you. I think this is what I'm trying to clarify here because I'm wondering. Us and Israel. Us and Israel. The United States and Israel. Us and Israel. The United States and Israel. I want to be crystal clear. Let me just

Starting point is 00:51:48 understand you. Hold on a second. What was the point of that? He's telegraphing that we aren't going to do it. It's us and Israel. Israel. It's Israel. Israel.

Starting point is 00:52:04 Israel. The telegraphing is we're going to give it. It's us and Israel. Israel. It's Israel, but okay. Israel. And the telegraphing is, we're going to give them all the stuff. Bibi's going to pull the trigger. Someone's going to pull it. It's not going to be us. No, no, no. We want Israel to do our dirty. That's why he had you throw that in because he forgot to do that earlier.

Starting point is 00:52:20 Yes, he forgot. The United States and Israel. I want to be crystal clear. Let me just, let me. Joint operations, exactly what Trump was talking about when, when Bibi pulled out of the joint operation. Isn't that interesting? But he's clear. He's clear now.

Starting point is 00:52:36 I just understand you, just to be clear. You're saying that you would want the United States and Israel to bomb Iran, even in the absence of direct evidence of their involvement in this attack yeah so if there's an escalation abby if there's people's throats being cut on television as Israel goes into Gaza. He's already telling us what the what the nightly programming is going to be. It's as if he knows, oh, if we start seeing people's throats getting slit on television. Wow. Tick tock. Maybe television. Really? Really? They haven't shown much on television. Wow. TikTok, maybe television. Really? Really? They haven't shown much on television. No, I haven't shown anything.

Starting point is 00:53:28 Please don't email us. We've seen that. We've seen all the pictures. We've seen it. We got a telegraph account. Don't worry about it. We're telegram. It's telegram.

Starting point is 00:53:35 I go with telegraph. But he is telegraphing. He is telegraphing what we're going to see. Yeah. So if there's an escalation, Abby, if there's people's throats being cut on how is people's throat being cut on television escalation of anything but the mainstream media it's not an escalation of the atrocities you know i mean no i know exactly what you mean he's just he's got he's got a script he's going by i don don't know where it came from, who's delivered it.

Starting point is 00:54:06 But it's everywhere. I'll say it again. We're behind. We're way behind on the West Clark 7. Yep. And time is running out on this Iran deal. And so they're either going to have to take action now because this is the last bit. And if Trump comes back in office, which is possible.

Starting point is 00:54:28 Not going to happen. It won't happen. It's not going to happen. So, I mean, something will happen, but that won't be that. Which is exactly why Brooks and Dunn are over there saying, oh, it would be horrible if Trump came back in. Oh, no, because then we won't be able to bomb Iran. I know Iranians. I have Iranian friends. able to bomb iran yeah so i know iranians but i have iranian friends if there's an escalation

Starting point is 00:54:48 abby if there's people's throats being cut on television as israel goes in to gaza and they're threatening to kill the hostages if hezbollah is unleashed on israel the north, it will be because Iran is supporting that. If you don't get the connection between Iran and this terrorist activity by Hamas and Hezbollah, you're missing a lot. This is a terrorist state that has American blood on its hands. It is now time to dismantle the financing system of terrorism if this war escalates. Yes, I would the joint military operation joint i tell the iranians today if the war escalates you will pay a price you will be

Starting point is 00:55:31 out of the oil business i want to be crystal clear on that and if we don't that's interesting you'll be out of the oil business the oil business are they still in the oil business well the trip up the trip the clip i played played from Trump starts off with him talking about the fact that they went from nothing to allowing him to produce oil to the tune of 80 to 100 billion dollars in profits in Iran. Oil. It's oil business. I would like you to play just the beginning of this again, because this is the... Which one is that? It's the clip...

Starting point is 00:56:10 I think it's the BB background. No, it's the unedited comments. Just right at the very beginning, he's talking about Iran. The $6 billion was a tremendous amount of money, but nothing compared to the hundreds of billions of dollars that Biden allowed them to make in oil and other things. Hundreds of billions. It became a rich nation. Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Starting point is 00:56:36 Good catch. Trump's blaming it on Biden. Yeah. Because they loosened up some restrictions. Of course. Of course. Sanctions. If the war escalates, she will pay a price.

Starting point is 00:56:47 She will be out of the oil business. Did we ever get those hostages back, by the way? Which ones? The ones that we paid $6 billion for. Have they been interviewed? Have they been on 60 Minutes? I mean, this would be a big deal. Each person is about a billion bucks.

Starting point is 00:57:05 Should we be talking to them? I don't remember there was hostages be a big deal. I mean, each person is about a billion bucks. Should we be talking to them? I don't remember there was hostages involved in this deal. Yeah, that's, yes, the $6 billion was to get hostages back from Iran. Iran. Oh, that's right. There was a few prisoners, yeah. Yeah, prisoners. All right, do we know even what their names are?

Starting point is 00:57:22 Have they been on television? I mean, this should be... Do you want their names or their CIA names? Thank you. If the war escalates, she will pay a price. She will be out of the oil business. I want to be crystal clear on that. And if we don't do that, what do you expect to happen in the future?

Starting point is 00:57:36 Do you expect Israel to forgive and forget? Biden didn't mention one word about Iran today. And I want to support the president. I'm supporting the Saudi-Israel peace deal. Israel made peace with several Arab countries through their Abraham Accords. I want to help the Palestinians we can do business with as part of a Saudi-Israel peace deal. But I'm tired of letting Iran. I think they did this to stop the Saudi Arab peace negotiations, the Iranians.

Starting point is 00:58:05 I don't want to reward them. I want to punish them. You know, now that he says that, I think that's bullcrap, too. But this, you know, oh, they did this to stop the peace negotiations. Really? Really think that Iran just I mean, is it true Iran just wants death and destruction? I bring back a tweet I mentioned in the newsletter somebody posted, which was about, it seems a little weird that on the 50th anniversary of the famous Yom Kippur War,

Starting point is 00:58:38 the 50th anniversary, that Israel let down their guard. Yes. Seems like, you know, did you read... Seems odd. Did you read Seymour Hersh's piece? No, no, I didn't. What did he say this time? So it was also the Sukkot celebration? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:58:58 So the Sukkot... I'm reading verbatim from his... I'm just reading a paragraph or two. The Sukkot celebration near a Palestinian village known in Hebrew as Haware would need extraordinary protection given the tension over the latest violence and the local Israeli military authorities

Starting point is 00:59:13 with the approval of Netanyahu ordered two of the three army battalions each with about 800 soldiers that protected the border with Gaza to shift their focus to the Sukkot festival. That left only 800 soldiers, the insider told me, to be responsible for guarding the 51 kilometer border between the Gaza Strip and southern Israel. That meant the Israeli citizens in the south were left without an Israeli military presence

Starting point is 00:59:37 for 10 to 12 hours. They were left to fend for themselves and that is why Bibi is finished. It may take a few months but he's over now i'm jumping ahead because i want to get to that because i have some other things that play into that but first we need to listen to so lindsey graham he's just i mean you could do a super in fact i'll probably get a super cut so now he he goes and does some crystal meth and he lays out this plan listen to me now, and listen to me good. We should, without lubricant, go into Gaza from behind. I know it sounds brutal, but we need to penetrate them,

Starting point is 01:00:13 blow our loads, and then subsequently blow out as needed. As AI, I love it. I actually prefer if we stay inside for an extended period of time because we need to make sure that the deed is done. I have been an expert on this subject for many years, and I think now is the time to act. That's AI, obviously, but I thought it was fun to play. It is. The AI is getting funnier.

Starting point is 01:00:38 Yeah. But the problem, of course, is that if you don't listen to our show and you are super skeptical about everything, you will be susceptible to some AI shenanigans. But the whole point of good AI is that you catch on and it's funny. I mean, otherwise, it's just no good. Most people can't do that unless you have trained ears. I don't believe that 90% of the people that would hear that 90 wouldn't buy into it no come on it's like yeah we got to lubricate you say that but i'm not

Starting point is 01:01:13 again it's a complete disagreement with you on this all right that's fine that's fine now before i get to the netanyahu bit just one more just it's global the whole iran focus as we suspected yay perhaps predicted is everywhere let's go to the european arm of the cia propaganda machine deutschewelle with some think tank a-hole for its incursion hamas has used thousands of drones and rockets and carried out cyber attacks the conflict has raised questions as to how the group is able to finance these complex attacks. They've done cyber attacks? This is news to me.

Starting point is 01:01:52 Every cyber attack is always Russia. Now Hamas has done... Or North Korea. Now Hamas has done cyber attacks. Very complex. This seems unlikely. Well, it's the CIA. Come on.

Starting point is 01:02:07 Or whatever. Questions as to how the group is able to finance these complex attacks israeli retaliation also has enormous costs for the economy of the gaza strip which is under hamas rule joining me for this conversation is matthew levitt he's the director of the program on Counterterrorism and Intelligence at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Oh, goodness. I mean, you know exactly what this is. We need a gig like that. I want to be at the National Institute for Terror Near East Institute. We can set something up like that and probably do as well as we're doing for the show.

Starting point is 01:02:40 Or better. East policy. Hamas has been using drones, cyber attacks and rockets against Israel. Where is it getting the funding for these weapons from? Where is it getting? Hello. Hello. Think tank guy who has Hamas and Hezbollah things in the background. Just out of curiosity, do you have any idea where they're getting the funding for these cyber attacks? I mean, could you could I'm at a loss. What could it be?

Starting point is 01:03:10 Hamas's funding streams have changed over the years, in particular in 2007, when Hamas took over the Gaza Strip by force of arms, pointing its guns not at Israel. In that instance, Israel had already withdrawn, but against Palestinians. Once it controlled territory, it was able to tax, some might say extort, the local population, and that is its primary source of income right now. The second most important source of income, and this is something that has been consistent over decades since the founding of Hamas in the late 1980s, the U.S. government estimates that Iran provides Hamas somewhere between 70 and 100 million dollars a year, probably additional funds in moments of crisis like this. And that has been constant. That is money that is in kind. That is weapons. There's on top of that training, intelligence, support, etc.

Starting point is 01:04:04 OK, so it's clear who we need to go after because iran is the problem it's not a bunch of nut jobs known as hamas who are just bloodthirsty and we don't even have to talk about the genesis of that we've done that but it's all her right it's all about iran it's all about iran now we get to bb netanyahu and and another player that we haven't really we haven't played paid any attention to this woman so my initial and i think yours as well you know one of the initial who benefits from this well you know biden benefits as a war president hunter biden benefits uh the the ngos who are flowing asylum seekers into every western uh country in the world they benefit don't look at our border

Starting point is 01:04:47 look at that one look at that 51 kilometer oh look at that board that board over there that border don't look at ukraine don't look at any of this stuff so a whole bunch of people and machinery benefits and the military industrial complex everyone benefits benefits benefits wall street's going to benefit everybody the oil guys are going to benefit are benefiting my friend paid for dinner so i know he's benefiting but betten but netanyahu had this huge problem and i think we need to revisit this it's controversial because we have understood this from many people boots on the ground no agenda producers that the supreme i'm just i'm just going to use the simple version supreme court of israel israel israel they have precedence over the parliament

Starting point is 01:05:34 over the government they can say you know you know we don't like this law or this out of the blue they can do whatever they want it's slightly different than our supreme court which has to have it presented to them through the court system. Yes. And then here it's just, yeah, we don't like what you did. Exactly. Yeah. It's pretty.

Starting point is 01:05:51 And it's also filled with, and I'm going on a limb because I'm not really schooled in it. But in Israel, you have Ashkenazi Jews and Serfati, I think is Serfati Jews, which would be like my. Sephardic. Sephardic. Yeah, Sephardic. Like my buddy Ben Cohen, who, you know, dark, olive, dark skin. And in the Supreme Court, it's pretty much all the white Jews, the Ashkenazi Jews. And they're elitists, and they're wokesters, and they're just like the liberal nutjobs here in the United States.

Starting point is 01:06:21 Yeah. And, you know, they're like, you know everything lgbtq you know everything's all good it's all beautiful you know we could you know you know don't just the whole thing everything is it's identical and bb netanyahu who i've always considered to be very sketch guy i said sketch i'm very skeptical i'm gonna retract that i've always been skeptical about the guy he's like there you go yeah But we've been programmed to think he's a criminal, he's a gangster, he's no good, he's a warmonger.

Starting point is 01:06:50 He was voted in by Democratic vote, if you trust elections, with one mandate, to change the judicial system so that the people of Israel would feel like they actually have a say and not just this Starfleet command.

Starting point is 01:07:06 Pushed around by the judiciary. Yes, this Starfleet command. And so what happened was, and this is Sir Brian of London, has said these riots that were ongoing, that have been going on since his election, and all of the accusations and they hate gays and they're corrupt and they're horrible people he says is pretty much identical to trump and black lives matter and that these protests are you know and it's all professional signs and people are getting riled

Starting point is 01:07:38 up and the military is getting involved but it was it's been led by a very interesting woman named Shikma Bressler. I think she's 41, 42, good looking. She actually started the Black Flag protest earlier, which is much more Black Lives Matter related, but she led this protest. She's a physical, a particle physicist from CERN, but somehow she got drafted into the to being the leader of this protest and i could not find it but she apparently somewhere along the line said you know this netanyahu you better give it up something bad's going to happen end of september i've been looking for that quote because that would kind of that would close the loop um but she was interviewed by the times of israel and i just pulled a couple of clips because i have a feeling

Starting point is 01:08:32 that this protest cannot be isolated from what happened by the lapse in security as certainly maybe the lack of response from the military and and the fact that Seymour Hersh, who I hold him pretty in high regard, Seymour Hersh says, this guy's finished, he's done. This might have been a plan to get rid of Netanyahu that perhaps they misjudged and it went too far. Here's a little bit of this interview with Shikma Bressler. So Shikma, I ask you, what matters now? Maybe it will sound a bit dramatic, but what matters now is really to say... I'm sorry, I should say this interview is from March of this year, just coincidentally the same

Starting point is 01:09:20 time Biden did that executive order with the security change. But I'm not necessarily connecting those two. Maybe it will sound a bit dramatic, but what matters now is really to save the Israeli democracy, to save the state and nation of Israel. I, as part of my, you know, duties and job in Weizmann and being part of a huge international collaboration. I do talk to many people from abroad. And what is clear to me is that people do not aware of the dramatic things that are happening these days in Israel. And the fact that if we will discuss it in a month from now, we could be already beyond the point of no return. What people need to take away out of this conversation and not wait to the end of it is to understand that we are now, these days, facing a real coup in the sense that if we are not able to stop what is going on at the moment, in a couple of weeks, days maybe, will no longer be a democracy.

Starting point is 01:10:25 And then once the point of no return has passed, it will take decades to get back from this point. And maybe it will not even be possible. And I know it sounds dramatic, but it is dramatic. But this is the circumstances. This is what matters now. I think that people are not really digesting, fully digesting what is going on.

Starting point is 01:10:45 And it is dramatic and it's happening now. The only thing she didn't say was existential crisis. That's the only thing that was missing from that. And by the way, it's very similar to the Trump. Yes. It's a threat to democracy somehow. Yes. And I realized that my sources are limited,

Starting point is 01:10:59 but I'm just giving you this. My view may be different on Thursday. It'll develop. Don't worry. People shouldn't worryursday it'll develop don't people shouldn't worry about it but people like yeah that kind of same guy so so then in this next bit from the interview she says something that catches my ear and and my ears perk up because i've heard this somewhere else listen to this how could you just to play devil's advocate, how could you possibly win? The government coalition will pass the overhaul bills because it can.

Starting point is 01:11:32 It's in power. It will do that. So what is a win for you? So first of all, to some extent, we are already a winning. Maybe we are winning a battle, but not the entire war. But you have to understand that they try. If you look at the changes that Orban did in Hungary in the last decade, and you

Starting point is 01:11:51 make the, and you compare it to what is being done here, they try to do what Orban did in a decade in Hungary to do here in two months. As I said, it's not just one law that they are trying to pass, but it's more than 120 laws that are being really ambushed on us. And this will probably not happen the way that they want.

Starting point is 01:12:15 They thought that they are going to do this legislation and they will be done with it in no time, no defense. And now they need to change that. They'll be done with it in no time, no defense. And now they need to change that. So they are calling back a lot of their thing and only focusing on this committee for the election of judges, which is the core thing. If you go back again to Hungary, you will see that this is how Orbán started, by taking control over the judicial,

Starting point is 01:12:43 the courts and the judges. So they are focusing on that. So when I heard this, I'm like, what? Orban committed a coup in Hungary and overthrew the judiciary and the country's calm and orderly and people seem to be happy there. i miss something that he's a dictator i've been pushing the orban being a dictator the left has uh for at least the entire orban the guy

Starting point is 01:13:19 who would not mandate vaccines who would not Orban started the problem by blocking the initial wave of refugees from the Middle East back 10 years ago. Orban threw up the fences and said no. And the people of Hungary seem to be happy with him.

Starting point is 01:13:40 I haven't seen protests in the streets. I don't want to say, you know, bring this guy into the picture. But as you recall, Tucker went there and hung out with him and tried to look around for some sort of problem and could find nothing. Orban did take on the judiciary, which did have an issue with the. I don't know. This is like nuts. OK, so when this triggered me, I went, hold on a second.

Starting point is 01:14:07 Hold on. Orban's anti-globalist. Obviously, this woman is globalist. And this is what we're dealing with somehow. So now three weeks ago, 60 Minutes does an interview with three Israeli IDF soldiers. They're in uniform. One is a helicopter pilot. One is, and that's a she.

Starting point is 01:14:30 She's always sexy. Female combat chopper pilot. Lesbian. Does it get any better than that? The other one is special forces. And I forget what the third was. And they're just talking about how horrible Netanyahu is. It's the same topic three weeks ago.

Starting point is 01:14:47 Listen to this. The head of national security has had multiple convictions, including supporting terrorism against Arabs. The finance minister is a self-described fascist homophobe. As for Netanyahu, he's in the midst of three separate trials on charges of corruption. The protesters say that laws his government has introduced, over 200 of them, would not only weaken the courts, but control the press and diminish individual rights, and that this is how democracies like Hungary became autocratic. What happened in Hungary and Poland will not happen here. There is a trend, and it's going against you.

Starting point is 01:15:31 Yeah. Around the world. We'll be the first to stop it. You're all determined. We are not joking. We are really trying to stop it, and we will succeed. One of their big worries is that without a strong Supreme Court, the ultra-Orthodox bloc in the government could turn Israel into a theocracy

Starting point is 01:15:53 where biblical laws prevail. Our Supreme Court is our last line of defense. This is our last safeguard. We need them empowered. We need them independent. That's what we fight for. What is at stake for women, Shira? That we will be sitting in the back of the bus. Literally?

Starting point is 01:16:13 Literally. Are you married? I'm married to a woman, a doctor. We have a daughter. She's one year and eight months. Her fear of an assault on women's and gay rights is well-founded. A government member said the gay community is more dangerous than ISIS and Hezbollah. Oh, crap.

Starting point is 01:16:34 For some reason, I must have cut out the bit where they talk about Poland, Hungary. No, I heard it. Oh, it was in there? I completely missed it. Yellow. Sorry. I just thought it came in there. No, they mention both. Oh, it was in there? I completely missed it. Yellow. Sorry. I thought it came in there. No, they mentioned both countries as autocratic countries.

Starting point is 01:16:49 Poland! I'm giving you a clip of the day for digging that baby out of the woods. Or whoever dug it up. No, no, no. This is truly... Well, it's not coincidence. I know who gave it to me. I know who does this.

Starting point is 01:17:06 It's supernatural. So I get this clip and I'm like, whoa, this is the same talking point. Poland, Poland. Same talking points, exactly. And it's interesting because it kind of parallels the Queers for Palestine movement. Yep. Which I highlighted in the newsletter, and people should go read the newsletter

Starting point is 01:17:27 and click on the link, or just go to Google, or DuckDuckGo, which is what I use, at Queers for Palestine, and start reading what's going on in Israel with the gay movement there, and the symbiosis with Palestine, and the fact that they're all, you know, it's just very strange.

Starting point is 01:17:48 And I think it's part of that. I think with that clip you just played is part of Queers for Palestine. So the problem is that they said, we're not going to let it happen. We will do what it takes. And then here, going back to Sh shikma the leader of this movement so i think that if as i said if this uh laws will pass uh by definition uh the israeli court system will be underneath the political system the government by definition it's not a democratic democracy anymore and then we will have to

Starting point is 01:18:26 you know we will wake up one day for something completely different than what we were used to i think that then then what we will see here is that the country conditions fall you know goes down quickly you you we we heard yesterday uh large groups from the reserve army unit saying that if this happens they will not they will not serve a dictatorship we are here we all took our oath to protect a democratic

Starting point is 01:18:55 a Jewish democratic country and not a dictator I think that we see it already we will be affected economically very dramatically we will be affected basically in every aspect. It may not be happening in one day, but

Starting point is 01:19:08 again, if you look at countries that went down these roads or conditions, and then it will be a huge and a long battle, which will which, you know, we will all be losing, but it will be awful.

Starting point is 01:19:25 So she says right there We will all be losing, but it will be awful. It will be awful. So she says right there that reservist army will not defend a dictator. They will not defend, I presume, Israel. And I'm just putting a couple things together here. It was like, do you think it's possible that they thought, well, you know know we'll let some we'll let some terrorists come in and do a little so when they tore down that fence with bulldozers and nobody did anything or even took a shot at him that was extremely suspicious if you ask me

Starting point is 01:19:58 they bring bulldozers up to the fence and just knock the fence over. And nobody does anything about it. When you have the crowd, just like Black Lives Matter, when you have the crowd program, this is an existential crisis. You don't know what people are capable of doing or not doing. And so if everyone's been, I mean, you don't see it much on M5M here, but in this research, I've been looking at some of the video, these protests, you know, getting pretty rowdy. Oh, there are monstrous, there are monstrous protests. here in Israel, Israel, then it's not unthinkable that this could have been, at minimum, just let go and then they underestimated how ready Hamas was or how bad it would be. Yeah, they could have underestimated how bad it would be if we take this

Starting point is 01:21:08 line of thinking which nobody wants to do because you're going to get more letters to Adam that he has to read on the next show horrible horrible letters but if you take that line of thinking and take it to its logical extreme

Starting point is 01:21:23 Iran's not involved. Very possible. Very possible. And Hezbollah won't come down. I mean, we already played the clips from the last show on the Hezbollah as presented by Al Jazeera, which is a representative of Qatar. So you're going to get something that's, you know, Qatar and these other Arab nations don't want to make this into a big deal because they're going to get killed and so uh the israelis have shot into uh lebanon from that area where hezbollah would come in there's no evidence that they're going to come in and they probably won't they don't have to for us to go bomb them. Don't have to. Not if you got Lindsey Graham. Not if you got him on your side.

Starting point is 01:22:08 So my eyes are on Shikma Bressler. It's baffling, baffling that they pull this physical particle physicist from CERN into this and she becomes this hero. I mean, I'm almost almost thinking is she going to be the next prime minister do we have a new golda meyer on our hands but who is this woman i've looked at her wiki page i've looked at looked her up who is she who is behind her you know she didn't do this on her own i don't care what anybody would like to think well she's at the weitzman institute of science um and and i've i've been searching to find out i mean she was married to the guy died uh etan wertheimer which i haven't it's very hard to find information on her she's you know in that

Starting point is 01:23:02 regard a little like oh let me see what you billionaire businessman okay he was one of israel's wealthiest men okay here we go he died in 2022 did he uh 70 years old one of israel's wealthiest men after u.s. tycoon Warren Buffett bought a controlling share in his company. Oh, now this makes for a little more interesting. Read on. As a philanthropist, Wertheimer was an ardent supporter of Israeli-Palestinian businesses and peace initiatives. He founded Erez College in the northern town of Shlomi and the experimental school of Teffin Industrial Park. That's all I have on this particular article.

Starting point is 01:23:51 So she is, A, probably loaded. Oh, yeah. And she comes from, you know, if you're in that level, then, you know, you're connected. She just connected. She's's connected let me see is car metal working sold it to buffett for six billion hmm i don't know oh what is this oh he was an idf i don't know i mean this is where i got stuck this is this is what but you look at Shikma, she's got leader written all over her. You know, libtard leader.

Starting point is 01:24:29 But she's got leader written all over her. She's reminding me, because of the nature, of the Jobs woman. Steve Jobs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got this wife. Lauren. What's her name?

Starting point is 01:24:44 Lauren Jobs. She has a middle name that's important we forgot i forgot anyway she uh ends up inheriting disney she basically runs she owns the disney corporation for all practical purposes she's the major shareholder and all this other and just nothing but money and and stock and she's a i don't know what what her real background is but she was she powell jobs lauren powell yeah lauren powell jobs she was uh she's a super ultra super i would say naive liberal and she puts all her money toward liberal causes and pushes things in that direction which is nothing jobs would have done. This is interesting. March 23rd, 2023.

Starting point is 01:25:28 This is around the same time this interview, the same month of the change of the technology. Bressler was detained by police during one of the many Day of Disruption protests held across Israel. She was later released. Former Prime Minister and protest leader Ehud Barak, part of the West Exec lobbying firm that brought in the new software, tweeted that Bresler's arrest was dictatorship in action. There's too many connections here.

Starting point is 01:25:54 I mean, I'm just, I need some red yarn, people. I need to connect this on my wall. We've got plenty of Arabs that listen to the the show there are plenty of spooks that listen to the show yeah there's plenty of military guys that listen to the show can someone share share besides seymour hirsch who probably is digging into us into this as we speak. Yeah. Yeah, I think there's something going on. As one would expect. As usual. As usual.

Starting point is 01:26:32 As usual, yes. And then, of course, here in the United States, everyone loses their crap. And it's very similar. What happened here, particularly amongst the universities, was interesting. There is such a, I mean, everyone jumping on the, and it's all around the world, actually, jumping on the pro-Palestine. Where is Roger Waters? I keep waiting for him to come.

Starting point is 01:26:56 If he's the guy that's always been anti-Israel, pro-boycott, divest, and then another B, why don't they interview him? He's the guy I want to hear from right now. I want to hear what he thinks. Yeah, well, it'd be nice. I have two clips I want to play. This is about U.S. citizens stuck in Gaza. And the reason I want to play these two clips

Starting point is 01:27:21 is because there's a kicker at the end of clip two. The State Department says the number of U.S. citizens killed in the Hamas attack on Israel has risen to at least 29, with 15 people listed as missing. This is Israel prepares for an expected ground incursion into Gaza as dozens of Americans there are trying to get out. They had hoped to evacuate today, but they, along with more than two million Gazans without U.S. passports, remain trapped. Israel has imposed a complete siege on Gaza, meaning no people, supplies, or food are allowed to come in or out. Ampere's Nina Kravinsky has more. Massachusetts resident Abud El-Khal and his family waited at the Rafah border crossing for

Starting point is 01:28:00 hours Saturday, hoping Egyptian authorities would open the gate to let them out. He and other U.S. citizens trapped in Gaza were told by the U.S. State Department that the gate may open between noon and 5 p.m. local time. That window has passed, and the crossing remains closed. It's just extremely frustrating. Okal, his wife, and their one-year-old baby will spend another night in Gaza. That was an interesting little sound drop they put in there. This is not about night in Gaza. Oh, that was an interesting little sound drop. Now, this is not about Americans in Israel. This is about, this whole piece was about, this is from NPR, by the way.

Starting point is 01:28:33 This whole piece is about Americans in Gaza. Yes. And which I guess there's a ton of them there. And there's a kicker at the end of this one, which had me somewhat baffled. U.S. officials have been negotiating with Israel and Egypt to open the border for Americans. For Americans? Yeah. Screw the Palestinians.

Starting point is 01:28:54 Screw everybody else, which is a sign as a nation of our empire. And our empathy. Well, the empathy, screw that. We we have empire and it's like you got that border down there open it up for americans yeah and they're you can be sure that we're putting pressure on the egyptian government to open that southern crossing that southern exit from Gaza for Americans. Yeah. Let them get, let our Americans get out, and then you can pummel the place. Hold on, and that will in fact,

Starting point is 01:29:32 well, as we heard from Lindsey Graham, it's going to be slitting throats. Americans' throats will be slit, an escalation of the violence. An escalation. Anyway. So back at home, people in Americaica probably heard

Starting point is 01:29:46 about the university signing statements and you know oh we we hate israel we're all pro uh pro palestinian it's crazy here's something from abc this is from boston a digital billboard parked right outside harvard university is attracting a lot of attention. The names and faces of Harvard students, which we have blurred, are displayed under the title Harvard's leading anti-Semites. The students are allegedly those who signed onto a statement by the student group Palestine Solidarity Committee, which read in part, we hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence. We're merely amplifying their message. The man claiming responsibility for the truck says the Harvard community should

Starting point is 01:30:29 know who the students are. If they're ashamed of what they did and want to apologize, we'll remove them. If they're proud of what they did, they should thank us. Don't put these people on this screen because it puts them in danger. But students like Jeremy Ornstein believe the truck's message is only adding to the tension on campus. Harvard Hillel has already condemned this. The Jews of Harvard have already condemned this and made clear it doesn't bring anything to the discussion. And it actually brings greater harm and danger to a lot of human beings who are here. Harvard University increasing patrols in light of the divide.

Starting point is 01:30:58 In an email to students, the school says, We do not condone or ignore intimidation. We do not condone or ignore threats or acts of harassment or violence. I know some of the fellow students on this campus, and it just hurts my heart to see my fellow friends going through this when they're just standing up for what they believed in. This issue is very sensitive, and this is a very insensitive way to portray these Harvard students. See, I don't believe this for a second that these people these anybody certainly in the united states certainly not at university has any context any knowledge any historical background in in what is happening that particular that particular group was exposed by a couple of documentaries that there's two groups and they're and they're

Starting point is 01:31:41 paid directly from that 100 million million slush fund from Iran. And I think there's 300 of them in the country at different universities, including Cal, Berkeley. And I don't know whether they know anything or not, but they are paid to do this, and that's what they're doing. Yeah, and what happens is, just like Black Lives Matter black lives matter without thought without investigation without any critical analysis oh i i better do what i better do what everyone else is doing you know i bet this is the problem oh wow you know it looks like everyone is all for i better i don't want to be the guy on the wrong side of this argument. Then everyone, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No classes. Let's go.

Starting point is 01:32:29 Free Palestine. No, but that's really what's happened. These are, sadly, our higher education institutions have become. Well, the higher educated you get, the more boosters you get, too. So I don't know if that tells you anything. I do have one more Palestine clip I want to play. More boosters. More boosters.

Starting point is 01:32:51 Get a PhD, you get all of them. Yeah, okay. Speaking of PhDs, but first let's play Palestine Update. Okay. The day-old truce between Israel and Hamas militants appears to be holding after 11 days of fighting. Egypt has provided a delegation to Israel in an effort to shore up the truce. Martin Indyk is a former U.S. special envoy for Israeli-Palestinian negotiations. Now with the Council on Foreign Relations, he's not sure either party really wants.

Starting point is 01:33:24 Whoa, did you edit that in i added a gunshot now with the council on foreign relations he's not sure either party really wants a peace deal on the palestinian side it's very hard to see how we could work towards a final status agreement. And on the Israeli side, there it looks like they're going into a fifth election. They have a caretaker government. Netanyahu has tried to form a right wing. Oh, hold it. Stop the clip. Oh, I'm sorry.

Starting point is 01:33:54 This is a two-year-old clip that accidentally got put into my pile. An old classic no agenda gag. You got me. You got me. You got me. You got me. You got me. You got me. All right.

Starting point is 01:34:08 Yes, this is from May of 2021. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I apologize. In an odd way, I just want to play two more clips and then we need to talk about higher education and PhDs. There's this woman, Esther Perel, and she is, she has an actual title here. Hold on a second. She is, here we go.

Starting point is 01:34:34 Younger than she sounds, but she's Belgian-American psychotherapist known for her work on human relationships. And she sounds kind of like a woo-woo person. Oprah loves her. But she attended the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. And another cutie. She could also

Starting point is 01:34:58 be in that government. You're onto the Jewish cuties today. Well, she's not. Is she Jewish? Yes. Oh, she's the daughter of two Polish Jewish Holocaust survivors. I must have been... Okay. All right. So she shows up on my favorite hate listen, Pivot. What's her name again? Esther Perel, P-E-R-E-L.

Starting point is 01:35:21 Okay. And she shows up on Pivot, my favorite hate listen. And she has a concept, which I kind of like, which is AI is artificial intimacy. Which I liked. I liked. I thought it was a good guy.

Starting point is 01:35:36 And so I want first a minute on the artificial intimacy and then the clip that I think is pertinent to what's happening in the universities. Modern loneliness masks itself as hyper-connectivity. clip that I think is pertinent to what's happening in the universities. Modern loneliness masks itself as hyper connectivity. And so people have easily a thousand virtual friends, but no one that

Starting point is 01:35:54 they can ask to feed their cat. And that loneliness that is really a kind of depletion of the social capital is extremely powerful. It's more to men than to women, but it's quite general. It's very broad. I've been very interested in talking about modern loneliness as it connects to the rise of the other AI, artificial intimacy. How often do you find yourself working the whole day on your laptop? Then you can't wait to close the screen. Then you go home, but you're too tired and all you do is watch TV. Then while you watch TV, you're also scrolling on the screen. Then you go home, but you're too tired and all you do is watch TV. Then while you watch TV, you're also scrolling on your phone. Then while you're scrolling on your phone, you lift your head and you see that the people in the room are doing the exact same thing. This is modern loneliness. This is artificial intimacy. I am there, but I am not

Starting point is 01:36:38 present. And then I talk to you about something that really matters to me and your answer goes uh-huh uh-huh all right so again you don't criticize don't criticize yet because it's you're you're led me and you're leading me into two clips good we'll get to that in a moment so this is the only the second and only other clip so as it pertains to what by the the way, wait, stop. You said she sounds younger. She's 65. She's not a young woman. Really? On her wiki page, I didn't look at her age.

Starting point is 01:37:14 Really? No. No, let me see. She is... Oh, you're right. No, she looks good then for 60. Oh, I just zoomed in. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 01:37:23 She looks like Victoria Newland. She looks like she's 65. She looks like Newland. I really need to click on those pictures and zoom in. You got to get with it. I'm busted. Okay. Anyway, so this next clip, you know, this whole, the whole thing was because Kara and Scott, you know,

Starting point is 01:37:48 oh, it's so difficult to talk about the conflict. And she brings in a little bit here about, you know, because of course, no one can sleep. You're scrolling all these pictures. It's very bad for you. Artificial intimacy. Pictures is very bad for you. Artificial intimacy. And then she drops this little nugget, which to me explains exactly why you're seeing protests, which I think are completely disingenuous. It's just, let's just be for something that everybody else is for.

Starting point is 01:38:18 The new, new thing. This is changing something in the world, not just in the Middle East. The 10, it's not sure that the image is really the right image and it really tells the story that it pertains to tell. It's a total mind fog. There is, it's a little bit like 9-11. We tell people titrate, don't just watch it over and over again. You will not sleep. You literally will not sleep. I am not sleeping. And I didn't watch much. I just talked to people and that's enough. So what you do after that, when you feel like the tide is rising inside of you and you just feel like you don't know what to do with all of this,

Starting point is 01:38:56 it's the most important thing is to come together with others, to experience collective trauma collectively, to understand that this is changing something in the world, not just in the Middle East. And to read poetry, to talk about what's happened, to ask people where they are. I think allyship is extremely important in a moment like this. And all of those who miss the allyship of Black Lives Matter will understand it even more so now, that when somebody writes to you just to say I know you have an attachment to that place or I know you know people there or I know

Starting point is 01:39:31 you know you were there recently or something that says I know I see you there's nothing else for me to say and you answer this means a lot you thought of me I exist in your collective awareness and that is a lot over socialized under educated allyship needing nut jobs that's what this is I think you've been on that for a while

Starting point is 01:39:58 and I think you're right but where did you get this I told you from pivot when Friday this is an op why do i say that i'm not not um why yeah why do you say that why do you say it's an op because they just ran a loneliness bit yeah you know a complete feature on nPR on loneliness. What? Yeah, I just picked it up on Friday. Another op

Starting point is 01:40:32 uncovered. On your no agenda show. Wow, okay. Did I play these clips? Yeah, let's go. Loneliness 1 NPR. The United States is experiencing an epidemic of loneliness. A report from the U.S. Surgeon General says about half of adults claim they've experienced loneliness.

Starting point is 01:40:49 So for some advice on how to make friends, we turn to some young experts. I make friends by sitting next to them at lunch or in a class. Wait, is this person 12? More like 8. It's a little hard and a little easy. You could play with them or they can play with you. Stop it right there. Now that you mention it, they use these kids as foils for this feature that they're doing on loneliness.

Starting point is 01:41:17 And I'm thinking that they're kind of put in the position where they have to do this because there's some op going on about loneliness. John, we get our producers to have their children say the most horrible things. put in the position where they have to do this because there's some op going on about loneliness. John, we get our producers to have their children say the most horrible things. Shut up, slave. I mean, you can get kids to say anything. Right, but so they put these kids, because I think they're trying to push back against the op, but let's continue. Friends by sitting next to them at lunch or in a class.

Starting point is 01:41:48 It's a little hard and a little easy. You could play with them or they can play with you. According to the Troll Room, Bill Maher also talked about loneliness epidemic on his show. On Friday. On Friday. Hey, everybody. We dropped the op on Friday. And Friday was the day of the 13th? The global day of rage.

Starting point is 01:42:10 So you should ask them nicely. Try to be nice, because usually people don't want to be your friends if you're mean to them. Oh, that's Liliana Beckwith, Colin Sadusky, and Liliana's brother, Owen Beckwith. The fear of rejection sometimes holds people back from making friends. When you assume people like you, you are friendlier, you are warmer, you're more open, you take more initiative. That is University of Maryland psychologist Marissa Franco. She's the author of Platonic, How the Science of Attachment Can Help You Make and Keep Friends. And she says paying attention to people can help you connect with them.

Starting point is 01:42:48 Wow. Do they at any point say, if an older person comes to you, you can trust them to be your friend? I have no idea what the point of this op is, but the fact that we have three things going on simultaneously on the same day, which you'd think they'd spread it out a little bit. Yeah, no. It's very suspicious. Now, they kind of demean the whole thing here on this NPR report. But at the second half, it's kind of the second clip.

Starting point is 01:43:14 It's kind of funny because the woman who's the presenter has to demean herself, I think, at the very end. And the whole thing, I believe, falls apart. But you know, it continues. If you're just like present and you're just like interested in people, like that's enough. You don't have to charm people. Having someone to confide in can also affect the way your body deals with stressful situations. Research shows strong social connections can reduce the risk of heart disease, dementia, and improve your overall well-being. Yeah, just ask four-year-old Edith Winsack. When I'm with my friends, it makes me feel happy.

Starting point is 01:43:57 Okay, so A, you don't have any trouble making friends. Am I right? No, I do because I don't want any new friends. Look, I describe myself as friendly not social so in order to make new friends you kind of have to be social can i i don't want to do that okay so can i be your friend i thought we were what are you i was just audition now i was just checking i was just making sure because you know we're, we're both nice. This has got to be binary.

Starting point is 01:44:28 There's something else coming to this. I believe you're right. Something is up. How about a new drug? This is very strange. How about a new drug? By the way, I thought it was going to be a good lead into the no agenda meetup section. Because you start making new friends, you're happier.

Starting point is 01:44:43 This is correct. And I was planning on doing that. Well, I will do it again, but before we even get to the meetup section, we need to talk about the PhD. Yes, here's what we're doing for the show, 1600 through the 16th anniversary and probably until about November. I don't even know the entire deal here. This is new for me as well.

Starting point is 01:45:07 You know 99% of it. I'd say 80%. We're going to do a no agenda. It's going to be certificated and recorded, put on a website, and we're not going to do it forever. We're going to do it for a month at most because it's work

Starting point is 01:45:24 that Jay is going to have to do it forever we're going to do it for a month at most because it's work that jay is going to have to do talking about getting your kids to do something nice and she's going to charge us for it so it's going to be oh it's not free all of a sudden not so funny and so um we're going to grant the show itself is going to grant a phd in media deconstruction and we're going to do it in the in the in the way it's done everyone does it the same way by charging you money just like a real uh institution just like a real college will it be five hundred thousand dollars for a four-year education no it's No, it's a bargain by comparison. It's going to be $1,000.

Starting point is 01:46:08 It's not a cumulative thing. It's $1,000 straight up. You will get a knighthood and an executive producer, but it's not that you can say, well, I've already contributed $500 to my knighthood. Here's $500. Let me ask you a question. Can you name your doctor?

Starting point is 01:46:24 Can you say, I'm now a doctor of deconst name your doc can you say i'm now a doctor of deconstruction or can you say i'm a doctor of something else do you get to name your your phd your your field to you you can do whatever you want well and no on the phd it says doctor of philosophy for media studies exactly you would if you put it on the wall it would pass by and say you have oh you have a you have a phd you have a phd yeah is it just as valid as any other phd depends on your perspective okay i think it is like a knighthood or an executive producership yeah well it's definitely as valuable as a knighthood is it but it's a thousand dollars straight up that's it it's not1,000 plus or minus anything.

Starting point is 01:47:05 $1,000 or more. You get a knighthood, a PhD, and an executive producership all in one. Let's put it this way. It's just as valid as Jill Biden's PhD. Am I right? As far as I'm concerned. All right. And when does, do we kick this off on the next show on 1600 or on yeah we kick it off well

Starting point is 01:47:26 you kick it off now actually today we have a high donation of 3000 and this person will retroactively if he wants the if he wants the phd we'll give it to him because it would be unfair to not give it to somebody who donated that much the day before we announced the donations. So that's a retroactive one. We can do that. But from now on, it's $1,000. That's what it's going to cost. I figure we'll get 10 or 20 people to do it. I mean, I spent three months in college.

Starting point is 01:47:55 I have nothing to show for it. You will have a PhD. I got a hoodie. And I will now have a PhD. And you know what? Well, wait, wait. If you give $1,000. Done.

Starting point is 01:48:04 Done. No, you'll get a wait. If you give $1,000. Done. Done. I won. Done. Done. You get a PhD because you're signing. Your signature is on the thing. Oh, there you go. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you,

Starting point is 01:48:15 the man who put the C's in the doctor of deconstruction. Ladies and gentlemen, hello, my friend and the other Mr. John C. DeMora. Well, in the morning to you, Mr. John C. DeMora! Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water. And all the names of knights out there. Hello, trolls in the troll room. If you don't mind, would you please put your hands up?

Starting point is 01:48:36 I want to... Stop moving around! I'm the troll count. Ah, people are interested in us. 2,381 trolls listening live right now. That's okay. It's low. No, it's not low.

Starting point is 01:48:52 2,400 Sunday. Yeah, but that was Sunday. No, it's Sunday. It is Sunday. All right, you're low. Some of you leaked out. Some of you crept out. What are you doing?

Starting point is 01:49:04 Anyway, we need more trolls. Trolls, if you want to join us, you know who you are. You of you some of you crept out what are you doing anyway we need more trolls trolls if you want to join us i you know who you are you know you're a troll if you're a troll you know who you are join us at trollroom.io or get a modern podcast app trust me you're gonna want one of these when uh when the the fake news everything's coming down everything's good i was thinking yeah you know that guy who sent a note to the hamburger place owner who's gonna have the meetup yeah do you have his email should we dox him no no in fact i emailed him um you want to know what i emailed him yeah hold on a second yeah because i he's because it came through an email to uh where is it here? I think I have it here.

Starting point is 01:49:48 Hold on. I'm not going to dox anybody. Are you kidding me? It was an idea. No. You're a troll. Get in the troll room right away. Here it is.

Starting point is 01:49:58 I said... So I forwarded the email that I got from the burger joint guy. And I said to this troll, I said, I forgive you for doing this. AC. And he replied, go fuck yourself. Okay. Did he? That was basically it.

Starting point is 01:50:17 I'm like, no, man, I forgive you. And you don't want to dox him? You don't want to give his email out? No. When I forgive, I forgive. It's done. I'm not keeping that on me. It's done. I'm not keeping that on me. It's fine.

Starting point is 01:50:27 I'm okay. It's all right. We know that our... That guy is a real creep. It's really amazing that they find our show. Well, he's got something stuck in his craw about that. What can I tell you? Anyway, because I'm sure he'll be emailing Apple and every other place.

Starting point is 01:50:45 So what? Get these guys off. They're homophobes. They're transphobes. So that's why you want a modern app from podcastapps.com. These apps also alert you. I'm guessing the guy had his nuts cut off. When we go live, you get an alert.

Starting point is 01:51:02 You can listen to the stream live. It's quite amazing what we're doing over there at Podcasting 2.0. So do that. Or just follow us on noagendasocial.com. John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com. Adam at noagendasocial.com. Although I'm not posting anymore. I'm kind of done.

Starting point is 01:51:18 I'm reading. I am reading, but I'm not posting. I'll repost something. No, it's too polarized. Everyone's got an opinion. I got no time for it. It's just as bad as any other social network at this point. But you started it.

Starting point is 01:51:32 I did. And now it's like it's our home, Curry. Who do you think you are? It's our home. And anything, it's becoming like no agenda forums. Oh, no. Nothing's, it's becoming like no agenda forums. Oh, no, nothing. No.

Starting point is 01:51:47 When they start starting their own no agenda social podcast, then yeah, okay, then you got something. Now, see, that never works because people quickly, but we saw that. We saw that when it was like the kind of the anti no agenda podcast. And they couldn't keep up because it takes a lot of work and dedication to do a show twice a week. And they couldn't even deconstruct our deconstruction. They got tired of it. It's too much work. Too much work to keep up with these guys.

Starting point is 01:52:18 No, no, no, no, no. One of the main reasons we're still here, 16 years, you heard it right there. Almost 1,600 episodes. one of the main reasons we're still here 16 years you heard it right there almost 1600 episodes a very interesting confluence of numbers that cross this month is because we haven't relied on advertising if we relied on advertising sponsorship underwriting whatever you want to call it we would have been long gone because it wouldn't have wouldn't have been able to sustain ourselves with it which we need then we can't do this work because everything full it's a full-time job you're always all everything we do is prep yeah i go out to dinner with a friend show prep yeah there's a there's a i'm here in fredericksburg there's an eclipse show prep everything is show prep and then just

Starting point is 01:53:02 the incoming i mean it's at least after filtering the 115 emails in the morning and then throughout the day another hundred and i and i read it all i read it all i have to because there's always going to be that one gem that you miss if you don't and people like hey man can your assistant reply to me? No, there's no assistant. Donations are not that good. I wish. I wish. So all we ask for is time, talent, treasure.

Starting point is 01:53:38 And we so appreciate the talent and the time that people put into making this show great. Such as our night dango who does noagentameetups.com. Now more important than ever, as we just heard. Because you need to get rid of the artificial intimacy and get some real intimacy. Look in people's eyes when you talk to them and not have to be worried. Because even if you have a completely different opinion from another No Agenda producer, no one's going to vilify you and say, well, I don't agree with you. Because we're normal amygdalas here.

Starting point is 01:54:02 Normal size. One of the great talents that we receive every single show is from our No Agenda artists. We appreciate them so much. They do such great work. And the artwork we had for episode 1598, titled that one Guardrails, was an anomaly. People noticed it right away. They said, oh my God, it's like an upside down stamp. people noticed it right away they said oh my god it's like an upside down stamp curry dvorak is not on the artwork which is a pretty much a prerequisite but we laughed so hard when we saw this from matt boisvert we just had to chuckle when uh when we saw the uh

Starting point is 01:54:40 terror leader one leg one eye missing ear, living in a cave, answer to the name of Lucky. It's an old guy. Rewrite of an old joke. It was great. I mean, there was some... What other stuff did we look... I want to mention something about that. We noticed, I did,

Starting point is 01:55:01 that there was no Curry Dvorak on there. So it wasn't like it slipped by us. It was one of those artworks that we made an exception. It happens. We make exceptions. We do. I like the

Starting point is 01:55:17 Spy Who Loved Iran. I thought it was a pretty piece and you correctly said... By the way, you can follow along. noagendaartgenerator.com. Drebscott also puts these pieces of artwork into the show notes so you can see what we're talking about. If you look at your modern app right now, you can see it in the chapters. And you said correctly, well, if you don't really know what's going on, it just looks like a James Bond on LSD. I'm like, yeah, okay.

Starting point is 01:55:44 It was pretty though. but it wasn't as funny as the the terror leader you know we're not going to do stars of david you know what else the you use it for the newsletter the um the peanuts that i did i thought you did yeah no i didn't use that penis uh why do i the newsletter i think i can tell you but i used no i used the the uh the yes the peel war calendar peel off yes yeah but i you know i look at that i'm like that's it was comments for blogger ai generated so not stolen totally stolen i've seen that from that's totally stolen i don't care if it's aij if you can generate peanuts characters that's that's a totally stolen. I don't care if it's AI. If you can generate Peanuts characters, that's a copyright violation. I don't care if it's done by AI, but that's stolen art.

Starting point is 01:56:32 That is never going to get used. You thief. Oh, so the faux diddly had a do the math. And I actually sat with a calculator and we're trying to figure out like oh no we gave up after two rounds of attempts it's like i can't this what is this artwork about what is it i'm hoping 33 pops out somewhere but no so that was mine if you do whatever you want to do i'm not sure i don't know how to do it we tried numerological tricks very odd it didn't work at all for us um math yes and there were other good looking pieces for sure

Starting point is 01:57:12 good looking pieces but nothing quite like uh the terror leader who we who has not emerged as a meme yet so maybe it's possible that you're all you're going to be wrong on this one. I might be. Yeah. Mohamed Dayef. It's the right kind of guy, but no. He's got all the elements. He's got everything we need. We don't know where he lives. He's got one eye, missing a leg. It's perfect, but no.

Starting point is 01:57:40 So far, no good. But again, we're so far ahead of the game on this deconstruction stuff that it could be months from now. It does happen. It does happen. So thank you very much, Matt, for Matt Boisvert. I wonder how you pronounce it. We really appreciate the work of all of the No Agenda artists. I get such a kick out of it every single time.

Starting point is 01:58:01 We just love that we're arguing over real work, real input from people. And remember, you're not doing it for us. You're doing it for No Agenda Nation. You're doing it for your brothers and sisters. That's what's going on here. I mean, in that regard, yes, No Agenda Social is also. You're doing all that for each other. It's all fine. So that's your time and talent. The treasure portion is, of course, critical to keeping the show going. Then good showing today in no small part, thanks to our top executive producer. I didn't even see this.

Starting point is 01:58:33 I mean, I don't really look at the... I have no time in the morning to read the whole spreadsheet, but this is from some earthling in Houston, in Woodlands, Texas, three thousand dollars now i'm blown away i'm blown away by this adam here's the note adam and john thank you for not only wading through the much each week to the i think it means the muck each week to provide us with much no he may be much might be the much to provide us with the treasure you find but for truly doing it with your independent approach the na ecosystem and culture rocks and we cannot thank you enough for creating

Starting point is 01:59:10 it thank you again for truly helping us scour so many sources searching for the truth yes you do you do clips boots on the ground all kinds of your own personal experiences all part of the system that's why you're all producers not listeners or fans most of all thank you for being such an inspirational example of independence the v4v and other things y'all do to remain free of influence etc is incredible honestly i want to write a novel to you both just exploring these two principles but i will refrain for now thank you simply put what you do and have done is appreciated more than you can know your prayers karma in suit how insert how you view it would be appreciated

Starting point is 01:59:50 as well you got it i'll give that to you uh i would love to pick your brains would either of you be open to a short interview i may be in i may even be in order to come to fredericksburg if that's in the cards i'll meet you brother brother. Or sister. Earthling. Some Earthling. Earthling. Earthling. You find out who's the actual alien. Yeah, you come to Fredericksburg, of course. I'll take you out to lunch. Well, he's in the woodlands, so it's just a drive.

Starting point is 02:00:16 It's just a drive. It's a couple hours. Thank you so much, and congratulations on... Now, are these PhDs numbered? No, but they're going to be listed in an archive. Okay, they will be in an archive. Well, you were the first one to receive an official...

Starting point is 02:00:34 Well, actually, if you think about it, to number them like 1 slash 100, it would be more of an artwork you're getting but it no we're not doing that you could have just said no but thanks for the long night i'm thinking about it the problem is you got me thinking about it some earthling thank you very much here's the karma your request i shall pray for you you've got karma meanwhile this is good news from the No Agenda Shop in Fayetteville, Georgia. They have our cut of the action to $814.18. ITM, guys, the shop is still alive.

Starting point is 02:01:16 And it's a shop you should go all visit because they got cool stuff. I do. Although I think the website, it could be easier to find some of the cool stuff now here's your cut artists have been paid as well if anyone is looking for recommendations check out my tequila review podcast at stillchillin.com and wherever fine podcasts are heard thank you for encouraging all you do and again this is a perfect example of time, talent, and treasure. No agenda shop. They can do whatever they want to do.

Starting point is 02:01:50 We have no agreements, no contracts. Run with it. And we have one restriction. Don't put our heads on anything. They work out a deal with the artists who are all no agenda art generator. And then whenever there's something left over, whenever they feel it's right, they'd send a donation. And there you go.

Starting point is 02:02:06 And we've never even met them in person. And what's cool is that we don't do shirts. They do. We don't do hats. They do. And people that do shirts and hats and all the rest, that's a business separate from podcasting to an extreme. We'd be losing $814.18. You're right. Yes, we would. losing $814.18. You're right.

Starting point is 02:02:27 Yes, we would. That's exactly what would happen. And we'd have to have meetings. Oh, God, no. Gray Lusty is in Tomahawk, Wisconsin, 477.77. Interesting. Oh, I see. Driving 1,077 miles from Tomahawk, Wisconsin,

Starting point is 02:02:46 for the Thirsty Third Thursday meetup in Charlotte, North Carolina. See you at Ed's. Wow. With three douchebags in tow. Wow. That's some dedication. Yeah. And it will pay off.

Starting point is 02:02:57 You will love it, Gray Lusty. Send us a report. Send us a report. Anonymous in Biloxi mississippi 433.33 biloxi is a really nice place by the way i've been guys first time donating while forgiving me podfather but i just wanted to express my appreciation for the show especially during covid i was an avid joe rogan when COVID first started. And I listened to the episode with that lunatic, Michael Osterholm, and him saying a million people are going to die.

Starting point is 02:03:30 No, it was three million. It was three million. Yeah, he says a million in the note. Yeah, he said three million. And it's going to get really bad. Really bad it actually had. Oh, it actually had me freaking out a little bit, and I consider myself a very rational person.

Starting point is 02:03:48 But I went back and listened to Adam's episode, and luckily he plugged the show. Da? Plugging the show helps. Works. Even though when Adam was talking about people getting rings and nightings, I thought it was a little weird at the time. But I'll check it out. And ever since

Starting point is 02:04:08 I haven't missed an episode, I can see how by not listening to the show and only watching the M5M, I could have easily been one of those people double-masked up, driving around in my car by myself and with my fifth jab

Starting point is 02:04:23 by now. But I just wanted to express my sincere appreciation for both of you during that time, and today for keeping us sane. $433.33. I'm going to give him a de-douching, because I didn't ask for it, but it's the first donation, so.

Starting point is 02:04:38 You've been de-douched. I'll do the next two here. Because Earl Christopher in Marshfield, Wisconsin. A lot of Wisconsin today for some reason. Huh. I have a Wisconsin clip coming up later. Uh-huh. Wisconsin.

Starting point is 02:04:53 Why? You won't be disappointed. Says, no jingles, no karma. 333.33. Thank you. Also, 333.33 from Josh Koenigseger. Koenigseger. Which would be Koenigse guess in dutch but he's not from dutchland he's from pakalette south carolina do i pronounce it that way pakalette

Starting point is 02:05:14 pakalette pakalette in the morning idea in the morning adam and john for many months i've been a faithful listener but a douchebag with this donation of 33333 offer v for v for the hours of information and amusement you offer me each week i appreciate your perspectives and enjoy your back and forth but my favorite part is still adam's delivery of your award-winning gitmo nation media assassination if i might ask i might ask for three things one dedouche me you've been dedouched that was really easy two I want a jobs karma for my fledgling business bronze age

Starting point is 02:05:51 saving bronze age shaving co.com bronze age shaving co.com for fine American made safety razors and shave soaps. Promo code. No agenda for 15% off.

Starting point is 02:06:10 I might try. What are you drinking? My last can of polar. I plain seltzer. Since you never asked, I'm drinking a Waterloo watermelon. How is it? I don't taste any watermelon at all.

Starting point is 02:06:28 Could you please give me my favorite jingle rub-a-lizer thank you for your courage josh koningsaker in pakalat south carolina india tango mike standby 33 33 33 rub-a-lizer. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. Dave Fugazotto, our buddy in Gladstone, Missouri. Hey, Dave. Hello, Dave. The Duke of everywhere.

Starting point is 02:06:58 Duke of America's heartland and the Arabian Peninsula. Happy 1,616 years getting in before the mad rush. Here's hoping it's a good donation spree to keep y'all in the cheddar. Please give my pop a birthday shout out. He's on the list and a health healthy dose of South Carolina scream karma. Keep on keeping in Dave. Oh, South. Oh, hold on a second.

Starting point is 02:07:24 I didn't have that one lined up. Yes, we have it here. You've got... Karma. Now, this next one, I recognize the name, and I don't see a note, but I know that the note was posted to my timeline on No Agenda Social. see a note but i know that the note was posted to my timeline on no agenda social i do want to

Starting point is 02:07:48 pull this up for a second because it's from jason rich and he's a member of the beef initiative hold on a second let me see if i can find yeah and it was his first time donating so i don't know how he maybe thought by posting it on the uh on no agenda social that oh some people i've seen people do that i have no idea why they're doing that well he's you know it's his first time so you know i guess uh here we go uh jason rich just donated for the first time it was great to sit on the porch and by the way what did he donate what was his amount here three three three dot three three it was great to sit on the porch with you and Slim at White Oak Pastures. That was Georgia.

Starting point is 02:08:28 We actually did the show from there. Thanks for everything you've done for the Beef Initiative. For anyone in Colorado looking for grass-fed and finished beef, we are the hookup. They can find us on Twitter at Jason Rich, W-R-I-C-H. This Monday, the 16th, will be my 45th trip around the sun. This Monday, the 16th will be my 45th trip around the sun. My wife and I just purchased the neighboring ranch and are fixing it up for Airbnb and wedding or conference venue. All right.

Starting point is 02:08:58 So I got to put Jason Rich on the birthday calendar because he's not there. Well, thank you very much, brother. Believe me, it was a lot of fun hanging out with you there as well. And I'll give you a dedouche. You've been dedouched. Give him the puts to the flank steaks aside. Dame Cheryl Wetzel in Pinedale, Wyoming, 333.33. She sent an actual physical note and check-in.

Starting point is 02:09:27 And you can tell because yep hello gents from Pinedale Wyoming happy 16 years loving the show thank you for the highlighting the absurdity of the world that we now live in so many discussions are so sad but your voices help to lighten the burden of the insanity I happen to have some knowledge of rapid test kits and

Starting point is 02:09:43 it is beyond shocking. Beyond shocking! Beyond shocking! That it is now okay to willy-nilly extend an expiration date without going back to the FDA to prove that a kit still works. Absurd! Since I do not

Starting point is 02:10:00 believe that COV-2 even exists, these kits are most certainly crap, even before expiration i would dare say they are designed to be in it designed to be inaccurate yes i suppose as long as the internal control is working the test must be right right right the promotion is that these kits work best on the fourth day is genius because of the dingbats that i know most of which you know better we'll test all four days because the primary symptoms for covid is now i don't feel right my nose is running

Starting point is 02:10:35 uh the kids must be flying off the shelves. Final note, recently a colleague announced that she was COVID positive after her recent flu shot. Isn't that interesting? She didn't have any symptoms other than fatigue. You know, she just didn't feel right. She is waiting for a PCR confirmation. Keep up the good work. Goodness. Thank you for your courage.

Starting point is 02:11:00 Dame Cheryl, cowgirl of the Wind River Range, Wyoming. Does she want any? She wants the F-35 scream. Oh, she also wants the F-35 scream. Oh, hold on a second. Sounds like you got COVID. I don't feel right. You've got karma.

Starting point is 02:11:24 That thing is a winner that's a winner jennifer davies is in bethlehem pennsylvania and she also has a note which she sent in and i have that note here and hi john and adam this executive producer donation is in honor of my smoking hot husband oh switcheroo jonathan's 50th birthday on october 16th he's been listening to your show for a long time. Caps. And I figured it was time to make an honest podcast listener out of him. I can't think of a better birthday gift for his 50th time around the sun than an executive

Starting point is 02:11:54 producer credit for the best podcast in the universe. Please de-douche it. You've been de-douched. That is very kind. It's a great birthday gift. You should also probably just give him a flamethrower or something like that. It's also cool. 50-year-old guys like that.

Starting point is 02:12:10 Jonathan is a hardworking man, faithful husband, and amazing dad to our four human resources. He hit me in the mouth a few years ago, and I have to be honest, at first, I thought he was getting corrupted by the show. Wow. Was the marriage on the rocks but when i actually started listening my eyes were opened and my amygdala expanded i'll always be grateful thanks for all you do please play china's asshole it's true oh i didn't get the it's true part I just thought it's true yeah it's true where's the it's true ladies hold on we haven't been asked for that one in a while no

Starting point is 02:12:53 it's gone out of favor it's true Donald Trump it's true I've run into a number of people who said that they couldn't listen to the show because they felt it was corrupting them really really now yeah There's a number of people who said that they couldn't listen to the show because they felt it was corrupting them. Really? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:13:08 Really now? Yeah. Corrupting them in what way? I don't know. Hmm. I can't find this anymore. What is this? It's true.

Starting point is 02:13:22 That's not the right one. Where's the ladies? It's true. Oh, it's not it's true. It's that's the ladies it's true oh it's not it's true it's that's true that's true see they messed me up there you go there you go yes i got your ladies right here okay don't trust china china is s-hole that's true r-e-s-p-i-C-T Alright, there you go. Then we go to our associate executive producer Ryan D'Azio in Fishers, Indiana.

Starting point is 02:13:52 222 222, a row of ducks. From the artwork to the end of the show, mixes and everything in between. Show 1598 was superb. Thank you, Ryan D'Azio. You're welcome.

Starting point is 02:14:07 Anonymous is in Amsterdam with a row of ducks, 222. Hi, John and Adam. It's been a while since I donated, so here, take my money. I'm a painter from Amsterdam who likes to sneak his politics into his paintings. Ooh. Ooh. I was going to look him up. I didn't.

Starting point is 02:14:22 He's anonymous, so you can't read the name of his website because he's not anonymous anymore, so we can't plug his stuff. Well, really? Because it's just an Instagram. It doesn't have his name on there. Well, it's up to you if you want to violate his desires to be anonymous. He says sometimes— I know you use it in the notes, so— Now I'm conflicted.

Starting point is 02:14:46 Tell me if it's worth showing first. Sometimes the show inspires me for a painting's title like The Green Leap Forward. Thanks for that one, Adam. Fellow listeners who like art from outside of the lefty plantation can find my art. He wants it. You can find my work on my Instagram account on the Insta. Pet Rex Art. P-E-T-r-e-x-a-r-t pet rex art p.s i made that grumpy old men artwork a few shows ago of course i know you don't like

Starting point is 02:15:14 your faces on there the artwork was titled just for fun surprise you didn't catch that love the show no jingles no karma did you check it it out? I tried. I think it's cut way back. What? No, I didn't know. I said I didn't check it out. Oh, I'm checking. Oh! Oh, this is cool stuff. You on his website? Yeah, on his Insta.

Starting point is 02:15:37 On his gram. Yeah, I can see what he's doing here. It's very different. It's kind of cool. Kind of cool. Is it good? I think so. I'd hang it on my wall.

Starting point is 02:15:57 Not the one with the devil's horns, but the other ones. Some good stuff. Oh yeah, heaven forbid. James Shea's up. He's in Brewston Mills, West Virginia. 21001. Donation note, email, and I do have it. Oh, good.

Starting point is 02:16:13 I don't know why you had it, too. Somehow. Oh, I don't know why it didn't show up. I decided to send a bank check this time because John says that's the way to go. So hopefully you can match this note up with the check when it comes in. And it's funny, I saw this note too.

Starting point is 02:16:35 You know, I didn't forward it to Jay though. I had to stop being a freeloader. I hadn't donated in a long time because the fuzzy cows in the 10-4 newsletter got to me. It was good. A lot of people love those fuzzy cows. I love the cows. Your show deserves

Starting point is 02:16:53 more support. Agreed. And we all need to recognize that and step up. Please play the Emperor Hillary clip that I sent you years ago that never gets played. No, there you go.

Starting point is 02:17:09 Oh, I have it. Emperor Hillary. I have it. Because I am holding on to this dream that she will run again solely for the value it bring to the show. I would like some goat karma, please. Lastly, I would like to change my night name to sir tiff tiffy alibi and say tiff sir t oh certifiably insane certifiably i got it

Starting point is 02:17:35 and say can you put them on the upgrade list it's not on there i'm sure thanks fellas for the hard work you do every week to bring us the best podcast in the universe then Benny's Goat Karma and an Upgrade Name. And this Hillary Emperor clip from 2017 which I found immediately. What is thy bidding, my master? Each year on my birthday, every

Starting point is 02:17:55 American gets a cupcake. Yes, my master. You've got karma. That's good. Sir Goatee Fisher, Winter Springs, Florida, 201.33. Switcheroo! Okay.

Starting point is 02:18:12 Hey, John and Adam. Adam and John, actually. I wore my No Agenda University t-shirt out on the town Friday the 13th and ended up at Ellen's Wine Room in Sanford, Florida, and it organically created a fantastic, impromptu meetup. We had many people in the wine room in Sanford, Florida, and it organically created a fantastic impromptu meetup. We had many people in the wine room discussing No Agenda after Sir Loin and I hit people in the mouth.

Starting point is 02:18:31 The t-shirt was an amazing conversation piece. Everyone should go to the No Agenda shop and buy their own t-shirts and enjoy the great responses they create. Please de-douche longtime listener Eric. You've been de-douched. And also, owner of the wine room, her name is Ellen. You've been de-douched. Please contribute this donation to my keeper of 36 years, and they never had a fight, Trish Holland. De-douche her.

Starting point is 02:19:02 You've been de-douched. And give her any and all producer credits. That's the switcheroo way. I just did it. Switcheroo. You got it. I am also sending in a meetup report as well. Yes, received.

Starting point is 02:19:14 Goat scream, love is lit, karma. Well, I'm not quite sure exactly what that got. Goat scream and karma. You got it, man. Thank you very much. You've got karma. it man thank you very much you've got karma uh mark pugner our buddy in los angeles california good old mark pugner 200 and 33 cents i humbly request a john's my chair gently squeaks jingle Jingle. There it is. A classic from Darren O'Neill.

Starting point is 02:20:21 Beautiful. Glad we could play a little bit of that. Earl Pennell is in Ohio, Youngstown, Ohio. Classic from Darren O'Neill. Beautiful. Glad we could play a little bit of that. Earl Pennell is in Ohio, Youngstown, Ohio. $200, associate executive producer. Credits are real, people. ITM John and Adam, new listener. Spot on evaluation of the war in Israel.

Starting point is 02:20:39 Hopefully this donation makes up for any listener that was lost. Can I get some goat karma? Yeah, you sure can. Thank you. You've got karma. And finally, we got Linda Lupatkin, who's in Lakewood, Colorado. I'm going to give her a job. She needs the jobs, karma. I'm going to give her a different read this time for a resume that gets results.

Starting point is 02:20:59 I say, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakersInc.com or just find Queen Linda Lupatkin under the show's producer list. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. And thank you all very much. All of you are exec or associate executive producers. All of you receive a title, one that is completely real. It can be used anywhere where any type of title is recognized.

Starting point is 02:21:35 And we suggest you put it on your LinkedIn, your resume, or go to imdb.com. If you don't have an account there, you probably don't, but you do now. You'll see lots of heavy hitters in Hollywood even who have credits. And I would send you to our donation page for other people to learn how you can become an executive or associate executive producer. I believe you demoed a beta version of the new donation page? Yeah, noagendedonations.com with a plural, plural. So are we going to stop our Dvorak.org slash NA? No, I'm keeping the other one alive for a year.

Starting point is 02:22:11 You don't have the credentials to even do anything with it. That's the problem. No, yeah, I do. Just admit it. Well, why don't you forward it? It's under Dvorak.org. I can do anything I want. I got the FTP.

Starting point is 02:22:20 Why don't you forward it? Why don't you forward FTP? I will, but there's a couple of things that need to be done to it first. Yeah, like find the password. I know what's going on. You can't fool me. Keep it alive for a year. You know I'm going to remember this.

Starting point is 02:22:36 I still have people using the legacy account, which is a decade maybe longer too old and i've talked to paypal about this because we now have an account executive because you know that calls once in a while and says what's all you doing or they say like hey what's this weird donation are you guys terrorists no they never do have done that oh and so the guy calls and i said you know and he says well i don't know what we need because they have programs, you know. Oh, we're going to get you on this great deal. It works. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:23:08 And so I said, well, you know, we don't need that. Okay. And I explained the business model and everything to the guy. And I said, but the one thing you guys could help. And he says, well, you know, it's not really my job to do this. Oh, okay. But he says, I'll give it a shot and see if I can get it done, which is to move the the legacy account, all the people over to the regular account and then get rid of that thing. No, they can't do that.

Starting point is 02:23:32 They are going to try. They can't see, you know, a friend of mine lost the email that he had his ex account registered to when it was still Twitter. The email that he had his ex-account registered to when it was still Twitter, that email address went away. And they cannot reset your password. It's unbelievable what they can't do. No, it's just not possible. He was lucky enough to buy the domain back and set up an email address to get it back. But it's impossible.

Starting point is 02:24:04 It's crazy. It's unbelievable what they can't do. What they can't do. Thank you all, execs and associate executive producers. We have some meetups. We've got, I think we have a nighting, two nightings coming up.

Starting point is 02:24:15 We got some birthdays and John will take us through the 50s with people who came in and supported the show this week. Phil Barnett starts us off in Brentwood, Tennessee, 15999. Sir Gregory in Cincinnati, Ohio, 12121. Sir Jonathan in St. Louis, Missouri, 10101.

Starting point is 02:24:35 73s, K-E-0-I-H-T. Yeah, 73s. Julia Saavedra in Madison Heights, Virginiaia 100 lucas williams and roswell so guy in roswell i think we have a couple of people there we got goodies from roswell i got a flying saucer did you ever get the driver's license from the alien driver's license sure did sure did i use it i use it all the time i give it i was at the bank and to do a bank transfer even though they know me no yeah and they accepted it no but they get the biggest kick out of it first they look at it like it's real that's hilarious they look at it and they go huh and

Starting point is 02:25:22 they look and they have a befuddled look for a while. And then they figure out it's a big joke. So when you go to the bank, which is a small little bank, and you know they're all sitting there going, here's that old coot again. It's the Vorax coming in with checks. Yeah, pretty much. But so I throw this. I've used it a couple of times and it always gets a chuckle

Starting point is 02:25:45 uh lucas williams in roswell new mexico comes in with a hundred uh clara sierra clara sierra i think it's sierra in charlotte north carolina sierra morris a hundred happy birthday to her talented smoking hot boyfriend we got him on the list yeah sir, Sir Scovey. Sure, he's been around. Sir Scott in Clayton, California, 100. Needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched. Stephen Shevlin in Southampton, Massachusetts, 9999. Kevin McLaughlin, there he is. Conquering North Carolina.

Starting point is 02:26:19 Lover of America and boobs. Duke of Luna, 8008. Breast cancer awareness. Save the twins. Uh-huh. Duke of Luna, 8008, breast cancer awareness. Save the twins. Save the twins. Gary Blatt in Wayne, Pennsylvania, 7777. David Jarman in North Turamura, New South Wales, Australia, 75. Caten Clifford, Uxbridge, Ontario, Canada, 6969.

Starting point is 02:26:45 I got hairy legs, is what he says. He sure did. Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina, 6006. Again, Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Save the coconuts. Christopher Dector in 5678. Baronet and the Dame of Puget Sound and some Mammish.

Starting point is 02:27:08 5454. Got a birthday call out. It's on the list. Sir Subterranean Shitteson in Saskatoon at the Paris of Canada. 5269. We put a birthday biscuit because it's a birthday here

Starting point is 02:27:22 at the end. And he also wanted a posthumous mothership boarding pass for his friend Tanya's next journey. All right. That's virtual, and you got it. John Craddock in Stafford, Virginia, 52. Sir Recalcitrant, and he's on a birthday list. Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve in Santa Rosa. 51-50.

Starting point is 02:27:50 Get John out of the house meetup coming up on October 21st. Yeah, and you'll be there. I will. I'll be there. It'll be the prelude to the 16th anniversary show. And if you're going to donate to the show, bring an envelope. Christopher Myers in Dallas, Texas, 51.

Starting point is 02:28:08 If you could even see me in this dark bar. Will Sherman in Spring, Texas, 5033. Needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched. Economic Sir, Barron Sir, Economic Hitman in Tomball, Texas, 5001. And now we got the $50 donors owners and i'll wrap this up with starting with jared yaw in nashville tennessee real real deals now in san antonio texas you want a real deal now yeah brandon savoie and port

Starting point is 02:28:39 orchard washington dame patricia worthington in Miami. Thomas Fanslow in Livonia. Christian Freeman in San Marcos, Texas. Kevin Dills in Huntersville, North Carolina. William McFarland in Manassas, Virginia. And that's a birthday. And a de-douching. You've been de-douched.

Starting point is 02:29:10 Diane Schwanabek in Johnsburg, Illinois. Big Papa Productions. Minneapolis, Minnesota. Kelly McDill in Mission Hills, Kansas. Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut. Easy. Easy. Phillip Ballew in Louisville, Kentucky. Michael Thompson in New Brownfells, Connecticut. Easy. Easy. Phillip Ballew in Louisville, Kentucky.

Starting point is 02:29:28 Michael Thompson in New Brownfels, Texas. Chris Slewinski, sir, in Sherwood Park, Alberta. Michael Parrott, Parrot, in Salem, Oregon. Michael Wendell in Mattawin, New Jersey. James Powers in Carnegie, Oklahoma. And last on the list, sir, Spud the Mighty in Marietta, Georgia, plus Sir Jerry Wingenroth in Saugus, California. I want to thank these people for making the prelude to show 1600, show 1599 a success.

Starting point is 02:29:59 Thank you all. Yes, thank you all very much. Also, if you came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity, I see you there, $49.99. Or if you came in under 50 for reasons of anonymity i see you there 49.99 or if you're on one of our uh sustaining donations we thank you very much for those those always get us through the tougher times you can make one up yourself we have a lot of different ones and for uh while stocks last you can still find all that information on this website and thank you once again for supporting episode 1599 of the best podcast in the universe.

Starting point is 02:30:28 Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave. Shut up, slave. It's your birthday, birthday. And we've got a list that we will work through right now. Baron and Dame of Puget Sound wish Tim White a happy birthday. He turned 54 yesterday. John Craddock's turning 52 today. Jason Rich will be 49 years old tomorrow.

Starting point is 02:31:06 Jennifer Davies says happy birthday to her smoking hot husband, Jonathan. He turns 50 years old tomorrow. William McFadden, celebrating on the 18th. Sir Subterranean Chitteson wishes Landon C. Johnson a happy birthday. Ciara Morris, happy birthday to her smoking hot boyfriend, Terskovi of the Piedmont. And Dave Fugazodo, that is our Duke of America's heartland and the Arabian Peninsula, wishes his pup a happy birthday. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

Starting point is 02:31:33 It's your birthday, yeah. Two night notes to read because they came in at lower amounts, but they will be knighted today. And the first one is from Kirk Strauch, or Strook, since he's from Iowa and and not from holland i'm a dude named ben named kirk from hull iowa i decided to check my paypal history today and took the sustaining donation subscription i've been on since at least 2018 to my surprise i've reached knighthood and a third more please knight me sir kirk of siouxland protector of things with power

Starting point is 02:32:02 cords if i may please have protein bars and diet Mountain Dew at the round table. Ooh, breakfast of champions. No jingle, no karma, and no jingles, no karma, unless you have one for people who found no agenda by searching for what happened to cranky geeks. Hey, it works. Keep up the great work, and of course, I'll stay on the sustaining donation to keep the show going.

Starting point is 02:32:23 Thank you very much, Kirk. You're on deck for a nighting in a moment and we have a note from chris gentlemen it was a long haul but please see the attached accounting which allows me to don seriously uncomfortable body armor while sipping something no agenda social name the dangerous clams at dangerous underscore clams at no agenda social.com please knight me as sir cristo of the black mountain round table tacos and diet dr pepper oh we got some health nuts here today dangerous underscore clams at noagendasocial.com please knight me as Sir Cristo of the Black Mountain. Round table, tacos and diet Dr. Pepper. Oh, we got some health nuts here today. Thanks guys. Don't stop what you're doing. From Chris.

Starting point is 02:32:52 And both of you can get ready because here's a blade. John has a sword here. There you go. Ooh. Oh, nicely unsheathed. Kirk and Chris pop up on the podium here. Both of you have reached this night's status. You took a long row, but does it matter?

Starting point is 02:33:09 It's just as valid. I am hereby very proud to pronounce the KD as Sir Kirk of Siouxland, protector of things with power cords, and Sir Christo of the Black Mountain for you. We've got hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay. We have the protein bars and diet mountain dew and tacos and dr diet pepper why i don't know because we also have cowgirls and coffin varners ruben s ruben and rosé geisha's and sake vodka vanilla bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts

Starting point is 02:33:36 ginger ale and gerbils breast milk and pablum it is breast cancer awareness month but of course you will always want to try out our mutton and meat it's top notch and you can surf on over to no agenda rings.com check out those beautiful night rings you will be receiving one of those along with wax to seal your important correspondence with because they are signet rings and you'll get a certificate of authenticity just send us your ring size and your address which is all available there in the handy form and thank you so much much for supporting the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the universe. No agenda meetups. Don't fall into the trap of artificial intimacy. Attend a No Agenda meetup. You heard it. You heard it. Smart people are telling you this is a real thing and we have a solution i mean when i say we i mean the producers of no agenda this is

Starting point is 02:34:29 an adjacent program adjacent to the to the podcast itself supported by listeners just like you and people like to send us meetup reports here's that ellen's wine room meetup report which was impromptu hey no agenda nation this is jeff sir goatee from fisher of the space coast here at a impromptu meetup at ellen's wine room here in sanford florida this is trish the. Love is lit. Hey, this is Ellen from Ellen's Wine Room in Sanford, Florida. I just learned about No Agenda and Jeff and John. Awesome. Love it. Yeah, this is Eric's soon-to-be ex-douchebag.

Starting point is 02:35:18 It's Oviedo. Not Oviedo, although phonically perhaps it looks that way, but it's Oviedo. Hey, Dave Dredd here. Sir Lloyd, night of the Noosimurna Beach, shark shallows and surrounding seashores. Cup of coffee in the big time, boys. Show up at a meetup. Oh, yeah. Love is lit.

Starting point is 02:35:44 All right, Oviedo. We'll never remember, but. Love is lit. All right. Ovido. We'll never remember. But thank you for correcting us on that. Denver had a meetup. Every day you're not at a meetup, you should think of the old Dutch saying, Zop nobles wachten onder zop. Wow.

Starting point is 02:36:01 So, yeah, something else. We're arguing about who the three musketeers were. Jim from Denver filling in for Rasputin in the morning. This is Sir R. I think I'm maybe D'Artagnan. It's not the bad guy. All right. Love is lit.

Starting point is 02:36:16 Come on out. Mile high meetups. And we're out. And that was not even Dutch what he spoke there. It was funny. I liked it. Right now, as we speak, there is a meetup underway at Sawmill in Albuquerque, New Mexico. And that's Sir Jeff who's out there.

Starting point is 02:36:31 I told you, go to that meetup. Ask him about his scars. Hopefully, he'll have a report for us. Also today, Kasten for Gaston kicked off at 2 o'clock in Charleston, South Carolina. That's at Gaston Manor. Dame Jennifer organizing. You know there's going to be's at Gaston Manor. Dame Jennifer organizing. You know there's going to be a great... Gaston Manor.

Starting point is 02:36:46 Gaston Manor. You know there's going to be an awesome meetup report from that one, especially from Dame Jennifer. Dame Jennifer, just so much good stuff. We have the spooky October meetup, which kicks off just started at Prodigy Burger Bar in Indianapolisapolis indiana then tomorrow on monday night bowling night in the ozarks enterprise park lane springfield missouri seven o'clock on thursday our

Starting point is 02:37:13 next show day north idaho sandy brigade they've been meeting for years and years five o'clock at selkirk abbey and that's in post falls idaho um north North Georgia monthly, 6 o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia on Thursday. And finally, Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday, 7 o'clock at Ed's Tavern, Charlotte, North Carolina. There's a ton of them. The whole calendar is filling up all the way through December. No agenda meetups. When we say connection is protection, it's true. You protect yourself from artificial intimacy.

Starting point is 02:37:45 If you have never been to a meetup, now is your time. You will notice the difference. It is good for your health. You heard it. The op has been dropped. Noagendameetups.com. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. nights and days. You wanna be where you want me. Drink it all, hell's a lame.

Starting point is 02:38:08 You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. Now I know I did my ISOs first last time, so now you have to start. You know, I think you're right about this binary nature of this loneliness op. Oh, there's something coming.

Starting point is 02:38:25 Maybe it's a drug. You think it's a drug, maybe? I don't know. They can do something. But we'll see. A new social network. How about a government-run social network that's better for your health? When it happens, we'll be the first to notice it.

Starting point is 02:38:40 We'll know. We'll know. We'll know. Yeah. I have two. One of them is kind of funny. I don't know if it's a good end to show mix, but it's funny. It's ISO 8010.

Starting point is 02:38:51 80% of structures have been decimated. It's a little long. A little long. 80% of structures have been decimated. It's just. Yeah. It's interesting. All right.

Starting point is 02:39:03 All right. Try this one. Dystopian nightmare one dystopian nightmare dystopian nightmare i like it nothing like a good amy iso let me see what i've got she's got vocal fry in it too i got bonus vocal fry it is bonus dystopian nightmare yeah yeah it's a bonus it's a bonus let's see what i got the things i do for this show. It's too long. It's too long. It's funny, though. It feels wrong,

Starting point is 02:39:29 but it's actually right. And then, my favorite, here's the ringer. I swallowed a bug. Come on. You know, it's really good dystopian nightmare

Starting point is 02:39:46 like reflects the show yeah but I would go with that but if you want to use it's up to you it's your choice

Starting point is 02:39:55 because I know you love I swallowed a bug I'm going to I'm going to look at the troll room alright troll room here we go

Starting point is 02:40:02 first one I swallowed a bug and the second one let the trolls do it dystopian nightmare I'm going to look at the troll room. All right, troll room. Here we go. First one. I swallowed a bug. And the second one. Let the trolls do it. Dystopian nightmare. They're going to pick the bug because it's a troll room.

Starting point is 02:40:18 No, I get bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, Amy, bug. Yes, Amy, Amy, Amy, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, bug, I swallowed a bug followed by a dystopian nightmare no it has to be three seconds or less that is the rule that's the rule that's the rule but because I give you that I will get the next clip did you know

Starting point is 02:40:54 in the world of podcasting that Rob Lowe has a podcast of course why would I know I don't know that there's no way I would know that I didn't know it either Rob's no way I would know that. I didn't know it either. Rob Lowe has a podcast.

Starting point is 02:41:09 And it's pretty interesting. He had Arnold Schwarzenegger on his podcast. And this is a clip that's been doing the rounds because it's quite entertaining. Okay, let me ask you this. And I ask people this all the time. David Dreyer, a good friend of ours. Yes. And a good man. Served for many, many, many years.

Starting point is 02:41:26 He used to have the greatest what makes me a Republican. And he had, I think, four or five things. I think it was, in no particular, strong military, low taxes, less government, more personal freedoms. There might have been one, a couple, but it makes sense to know. Strong law enforcement. strong law enforcement strong law enforcement and and then i'd like to know what the i always ask democrats what it means to be a democrat in that way and i i think whatever anybody would say your cities what would they what would they say ruin your cities what's that ruin your city ruin your city that's what the

Starting point is 02:42:03 democrats would say we're about ruining the cities. We want to fuck up every city in America. That seems to be the theme right now. Why is that? I have no idea. I just thought that was dynamite. It is funny. You don't hear Arnold drop the F-bomb.

Starting point is 02:42:23 Of course, he said, screw your freedom. We haven't forgotten that. You don't get a pass. You don't get a drop the F-bomb. Of course, he said, screw your freedom. We haven't forgotten that. You don't get a pass. You don't get a pass because you're funny here, Arnold. But that was funny. I thought that was pretty good. I want to give ourselves some kudos for picking up on something somebody accidentally said. And here's the kudos clip.

Starting point is 02:42:42 Second carrier group is on its way. And here's the kudos clip. Second carrier group is on its way. And Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin says the U.S. will send a second carrier group, the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, to the eastern Mediterranean to help deter the widening of the war between Israel and Hamas. This carrier joins the Gerald R. Ford carrier strike group, which arrived earlier this week. You know, all the vets are all worried about, was it the Phoenix that Israel attacked? I don't know. You talking about the Liberty back in the day? No, was it Liberty? Yeah, Liberty.

Starting point is 02:43:17 The USS Liberty that the Israelis killed a bunch of American soldiers and they just all covered up? Yeah, the Liberty. They're all worried about it. Like, this is not good. This is very dangerous well they still don't trust anybody after that liberty experience and that thing has still been covered up it's it's been suppressed to this day yeah yes yes well it's a it's on the wiki but it's still kind of not known uh all right since we're doing kudos but i'll just give kudos to myself for

Starting point is 02:43:44 calling this one a long time ago. The president is expected to arrive later this afternoon. We know among the topics he'll be discussing is the Mid-Atlantic Hydrogen Hub, which the White House expects will bring about 40,000 jobs to our region. Take a look at this. Here's what we are expecting. We know the president will be here with the Energy Secretary. They're announcing seven regional clean hydrogen hubs that were selected to receive $7 billion in funding to accelerate the domestic market for low-cost clean hydrogen. According to the White House, hydrogen, which is a clean fuel, helps the U.S. reduce emissions while creating jobs and building healthier communities. Now, we know that Mid-Atlantic Hub will be

Starting point is 02:44:24 in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware again, creating thousands of jobs. We will have the latest on that announcement when it happens. Clean energy, clean hydrogen. Woo-hoo! This scam is here now. Clean hydrogen. $7 billion for clean hydrogen. This is a new story. I didn't know this was happening

Starting point is 02:44:46 I didn't know they were throwing money at this 7 billion yeah that's a lot 7 billion dollars for clean hydrogen crazy alright I promised a story about Wisconsin now it's time for our Trans-Maoist Agenda Update

Starting point is 02:45:01 yes Trans-Maoism continues just because we do have a that it, you know, we do have a war. It's covering up a lot, but we still will stay on the stories that matter. This is a video that is from Canadian Broadcasting Corporation Kids News, CBC Kids News. Kids News. Kids News, and it is being used in Wisconsin schools for fourth graders. It is animated, kind of like No Agenda, animated No Agenda, that style, a little more purposeful. Both kids are brown.

Starting point is 02:45:36 The mom looks Asian. The dad looks Mexican or Latinx. The baby in the story is white. So it's a very, it's a very polarizing visuals. And we can stop at any time you want, but I think it's worth listening to the entire thing. Again,

Starting point is 02:45:53 this is for children. CBC Kids News. You can find it right there on YouTube. They broadcast it on television and now in Wisconsin schools for fourth graders. Aww. Hi, baby. Are you a boy or a girl? Funny you should ask, Sid.

Starting point is 02:46:12 One of the first things they check when a new baby is born is what kind of body parts they have. They do that to determine a baby's sex. Most of the time, it's easy to determine, and sometimes it's more complicated. this one has a penis it's a boy this one has a vulva it's a girl i gotta stop it right there why do they use vulva

Starting point is 02:46:34 instead of vagina what is the reasoning behind that well that now that you stopped it because i would have said well what a dumb thing to say i have to uh i'm glad you stopped it, because I would have said, well, what a dumb thing to say. I have to, I'm glad you stopped it, because now we have to discuss this. Yes. There's a reason. These things are not done without. Hold on. Troll room, not Volvo. Volvo.

Starting point is 02:46:56 It's a Volvo. Oh, I love being childish. 15 forever. Right. But why? Why, why, why? The vulva is the global term that describes all of the structures that make the female external genitalia. The components of the vulva are the mons pubis, labia majora, labia minora, clitoris.

Starting point is 02:47:25 Oh, okay. are the mons pubis, labia majora, labia minora, clitoris, viscid, vulva, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, a whole bunch of stuff, and the vaginal opening. So this is a new one that they're trying to push. It's only the external stuff. It's only the stuff you can see on the outside. It's what it says. Interesting. Yeah, just the external.

Starting point is 02:47:43 It's more complicated this one has a penis it's a boy this one has a vulva it's a girl congratulations whoa let's hit the brakes people the way your body looks on the outside is only part of the story. What? Stay with me, gang. This is important. Hi, little one. Your sex refers to your physical body parts, remember? But there is also something called gender, which is how you feel inside your body

Starting point is 02:48:15 and who you know yourself to be. And your gender, how you feel on the inside, doesn't always match the sex you were called when you were born. Okay. Let's say you were born. Okay. Let's say you were born with a penis and you feel like a boy inside. In that case, your sex and your gender match. But what if you were born with a penis and you know you're a girl inside, not a boy?

Starting point is 02:48:37 Then your sex and your gender don't match. Wait, what does know you're a girl inside mean anyway? Does that mean you have to love pink things and princesses? Nope. Sometimes people refer to things as girl things and boy things, but this is just how people sometimes classify things, usually to make it easier to sell stuff to kids and their parents. So the reason why we call boys boys and girls girls

Starting point is 02:49:02 is for people to make it easier to sell stuff that's an interesting take it's just so how does that work in a communist country or a or a tribal organization where this was capitalism doesn't apply if there's no capital so So are they saying that, I'm just guessing here, are they saying that this is the problem, capitalism is causing this issue because if there's no capitalism, you wouldn't have this?

Starting point is 02:49:32 Yeah, then we'd all be- Then you wouldn't have confusion if there's no capitalism? Correct, correct, correct. I don't see where that's going. Clothes, toys, and games are for everyone. You don't have to be a boy or a girl to like a certain thing.

Starting point is 02:49:45 Sid, has anyone ever told you that you shouldn't play with something or wear something because you're a boy? Well, yes. The body parts you were born with don't always dictate who you are, how you feel, or what you like to play with. Ah, that's such a relief. Gender, how you feel and who you know yourself to be tells you who you are and there are a whole bunch of possibilities figuring out what feels right for you is just part of growing up bye little cutie um you might want to change that diaper sooner than later. Yeah, there you go.

Starting point is 02:50:27 Hello, Canada. Good work. Good work up there. And of course, that results and leads to new stories like this. To Italy now, where a whole bunch of transgender men are entering the Miss Italy pageant after a pageant rep said transgender women can't compete. All right, let me lay this out for you here. It's a little complicated. The organizer of the Miss Italy pageant said the pageant only allows people who were assigned a female gender at birth to be in the competition,

Starting point is 02:50:58 meaning transgender women, men who became women, would be excluded. One transgender man named Frederico saw this and thought, well, hey, I was born female. So he decided to enter the pageant under his birth name, Frederica, even though he identifies as a man now. That moment then turned into a movement. One LGBTQ group shared his entry on Facebook, encouraging other transgender men to apply. And now more than 100 trans men have entered the pageant, with some even being called to the next stage of the competition. Jesus, come quickly. This world.

Starting point is 02:51:37 What I find fascinating is that no point does anyone state the obvious that the whole idea of beauty contests is is crazy no no they don't see they don't see that well that used to be the thing yeah they used all your beauty competitions i mean don't you remember like 25 years ago i sure do let's say uh everyone's bitching and moaning about beauty contests and we used to do a review of all of them on this show you know recently oh yes yeah not real we stopped doing it yeah and the main complaints that objectified women and yeah and then uh that died down for some unknown reason now we got this yeah it, the whole thing is sad.

Starting point is 02:52:27 All right, I have a two-parter. Well, it says you're on the transgender thing. Let's play my, there's a thing I've been dragging along

Starting point is 02:52:33 this TikTok clip. It's called Talk, uh, Talk, Transphobia. Talk, TikTok. Talk,

Starting point is 02:52:40 Transphobia. You have to look it up from the last couple of shows. Oh, hold on. Talk. Yes have to look it up from the last couple of shows. Oh, hold on. Talk. Yes, I got it. If you are told that something you're doing is transphobic, it is not your job to try to prove that it's not. You are going to mess up. It is guaranteed.

Starting point is 02:52:58 If you are told information and you immediately reject it and go, nope, that doesn't fit my view of what transness means, immediately reject it and go, nope, that doesn't fit my view of what transness means, you are not going to be able to show up as an ally because all you're worried about is what you think and you feel about an experience that's not yours. It's going to be uncomfortable. It's going to be confusing. And it's going to mean that you are going to have to evaluate how gender is seeped into society, how it has affected and shaped your life, how cishet normativity has affected your life. And just because we're existing in front of you does not mean that you get to ask or say whatever you want, and that's supposed to be taken as a compliment.

Starting point is 02:53:31 Questions can be transphobic. Compliments can be transphobic. And so that's where it comes in, where a lot of the work with being an ally actually has to do with our own individual reflections on how transphobic society has shaped the way that we think and live and treat people. We don't need allies who are trying to prove how good they are or who are asking for a pat on the back or who are trying to seem nice or who are worried about what they look like. We need allies who are willing to stand up for trans people and learn how to do that the best that they can.

Starting point is 02:54:06 Yeah, by shutting up. You know and learn how to do that the best that they can. Yeah. By shutting up. You know, I got to mention this. Do you remember the podcast conference that I went to podcast movement? And they wanted me on a panel. I said, who else? All right. And it's like, well, it's this one, this one. And but, you know, we can't have just all white guys on the panel. So we invited this woman who knows nothing about the topic because she's BIPOC.

Starting point is 02:54:28 And that woman because she's American descent. But they didn't know anything about the topic. And I said, well, they're not appropriate for this topic. Yeah, we can't have four white guys on the panel. I said, well, you know what? You can have three because I'm out. I'm not a part of this. can have three because i'm out i'm not a part of this so those very same guys one of them had a like a a like a mini podcast conference you know sold tickets to it it was in in europe

Starting point is 02:54:57 and um they got canceled i mean they the event still went on, but some black lesbians, who, as it was described to me, started calling up speakers they had contracted and saying, there's not enough black people on this stage, not enough LGBTQ, you shouldn't go there. And these were people who work for companies.

Starting point is 02:55:20 Guess what? About 10% had to cancel. So the very people who are trying to protect the uh you know the the sensitivities of lgbtq bipod people were now being canceled by those very same people yeah isn't that great well this is what they never understand it's like it's going to be used against you so you might as well take a stand now because it's going to come back to bite you in the ass eventually my final two i have a funny one but my final two clips are covid related specifically

Starting point is 02:55:59 vaccination adverse events dr drew who i we've played dr drew throughout the covid period the covid years i think we both trust him he's not always been in line with our thinking we still have always played his uh his opinions because he is a doctor oh boy he had there's a new study out that he read and he's kind of upset about it. This article came out this week in Circulation, which is a very fine high-end cardiology journal. It's called Circulation. I've been sending it around to people and it took my breath away. I was shocked at what an indictment it was. It showed that myocarditis was not that uncommon in young males. Certainly more common than severe COVID in that group. Okay. So myocarditis more common than severe COVID.

Starting point is 02:56:51 So you're putting people at risk and taking away little problems. Okay. All right. And then you've heard all this. It's just myocarditis. It's self-limited. Myocarditis throughout my career is a medical emergency. And now this article showed for the first time that about half of the kids, these were adolescent males who got myocarditis, are going to have lifelong cardiac dysfunction, which means a significant percentage are going to end up in heart failure, hopefully at an advanced age, but if not, on the transplant list.

Starting point is 02:57:28 So this comes in the very same week that the Nobel Prize for, let me see what the actual title is, Physiology and Medicine is given to the inventors of mRNA. Yeah. And so there's a Chinese journalist at this little event. Ask a question about long-term effects of mRNA. I'm going to tell you what she said because it's a little difficult to hear. Then we will hear the answer from the first scientist receiving this Nobel Prize.

Starting point is 02:58:00 And then the second one. Hello, this is Caixin Media from China. And with mRNA, we don't know the long-term effect yet. So do you have any concern over that? Richard, would you like to respond to that question? Yes. Of course, mRNA vaccines have only been given for a certain amount of time, which begs your question. Having said that, of course, the mRNA vaccine that is given is very transient.

Starting point is 02:58:33 And the fact that 13 billion people have gotten the vaccine virus and the amount of side effects noted to date is extremely limited. So I don't think it's a major concern. So first, this guy gaffes it. He says, oh, 13 billion people have been, what did he say? He said some crazy amount, have been given the virus. I mean, the vaccine. Let's ask the other guy. Anyone else want to add to that?

Starting point is 02:59:06 That's fine, I guess. Yeah, say something. Well, it can't be integrated into the nucleus, into the DNA, and that's, you know, a safety precaution. The adverse effects that's been noted is mostly mild myocarditis or perimyocarditis, mainly affecting young males, but that normally resolves without any long-term effects. So these guys are getting a Nobel Peace Prize while the top... No, no.

Starting point is 02:59:43 Nobel Prize is not the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm sorry. Thank you for correcting me. The outrage is still there. They're getting a Nobel Prize for this technology and they sit there stone cold face saying, ah, it's just limited. It resolves itself

Starting point is 02:59:59 while the top publication says this is horrible and Dr. Drew says you're going to be in the transplant list says this is horrible. And Dr. Drew says, this is, you're going to be in the transplant list. What is wrong with the world? Well, there seems to be a disconnect between something and something.

Starting point is 03:00:19 And I think one of those somethings is money. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately for the love of money is the root of all evil that does seem to hold true uh unless you've got something well let me take one quick look and see if there's anything that's yeah there's a i got one kind of an oddball clip which maybe is worth playing yeah i got a military got a succinct biden succinct comments on NPR is always a good way to go out. And then I have a weird Mexican education deal, which is like, what?

Starting point is 03:00:52 What? Well, you tell me which one you want. I would say let's play the weird Mexican educational deal. And you tell me what's going on here. Under a new law, low-income Mexican residents living near the California border can now go to some state community colleges at in-state tuition levels. The law creates a pilot program for some Mexicans who want to attend certain community colleges in Southern California and will run through 2029. The law is designed to help low-income Mexicans who live within 45 miles of the California border to get an education and prepare for jobs.

Starting point is 03:01:28 Under the new program, students would pay $46 a unit in-state as opposed to $307 a unit out-of-state. That's according to a legislative analysis. Similar tuition programs are available in at least 24 states, including Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico. Dude. To literally Mexicans in mexico dude i don't know what's going on and meanwhile do you know what the most emailed clip is that i received this week can you even it's 12 i'd only get 12 seconds of it it's a little longer but can you just imagine what people are asking me as an audio expert oh they're asking if it's ai or asking if it's been edited yep and it's the same clip dude dude

Starting point is 03:02:14 listen to this did aoc fart on camera and to ensure that horrors do not happen in the names of victims who do not want their tragedy used to justify further violence and injustice wow she farted on camera this is the number one emailed clip this is what everyone cares about and this is why we're never going to be rich. Ever. Ever, ever, ever. All right, we got a little bit of Iran stuff to end it up with. We got Billy Bones. Billy Bones with an end of show mix.

Starting point is 03:02:59 We got, what else we got here? We got, let me see. Oh, yes, Donald Winkler. That's the other one. And a classic. A classic that you heard earlier in the show. If you are listening, that is. You might have heard that.

Starting point is 03:03:15 Coming up next on No Agenda Stream, we've got Behind the Schemes. Oh, with special guest Graham from Grimerica. There you go. Keep it here. Trollroom.io or keep listening in your brand spanking new podcast app. And coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

Starting point is 03:03:39 And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday, which will be episode 1600. Get your PhDs! Until then, remember us at devorahack.org slash NA. We'll see you then, everybody. Adios, mofos! Ahooey, hooey! And... such.

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