No Agenda - 1601 - "Unkool & The Gang"

Episode Date: October 22, 2023

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Rub me the wrong way, you get blocked. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, October 22nd, 2023. This is your award-winning Gimel Nation Media Assassination Episode 1601. This is no agenda. Clutching my pearls and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley valley where we're concerned that canada is pushing assisted suicide for babies i'm john c devorek it's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning well it's about time they got in on that on that action baby killing is all the rage yeah it seems so it's like hey we're not gonna let hamas or israel have all the fun is this really something are they really doing assisted suicide the quebec uh border i think it's the quebec uh medical board is pushing it and they're trying to get it through uh for babies up to one and this is the babies get to decide is that how that works no of course not this is this is a form of abortion after the fact yes it's a postnatal abortion pna you look at it yeah i don't like that baby it's just like look at the nose on that kid yeah no good oh that hair it has red hair oh no it's a ginger oh hello social media addicts uh remember when social media was social networking

wow yeah hey talking about wow is wow that's kind of an interesting wow you're right i got a robocall today did you know and it was it was the i i considered you know? And it was, it was the, I considered some, someone who coded. It was very ironic. It was a woman calling. It was a robot robot. Hi,

I'm Eliza. No, really? Yes. Wow. That's not obvious. I'm Eliza. How are you?

Oh, man. No, this Israel Hamas thing is perfect. I mean, it's better than mask, no mask, vax, no vax. Because, you know, when you say something like, all of a sudden, you're a Nazi, it goes a little further now. You can get in real trouble now. You're anti-semite yeah so but yes it used to be social networking and i think the the turn to social media is when they brought in the algos oh you know i don't think so i think it was the uh social networking i think was

always borderline passive. Right. There was no comments. You're right. It was just, it was like a, like Google reader. That was, that was,

that was social. No, no. I think Facebook would be considered social networking. And I think until Twitter came along with micro blogging, I think it was always, I think, I think it's,

I think it's the algo. I think it happened when the algo was introduced. Because media, look, networking is just, hey, look, I'm networking with some people. I'm in a group. I'm following some people. Facebook would be that. But then Facebook got their feed,

their news feed, and that was all algo-ized. And then it became media. I mean, media is always dishonest i think it actually doesn't really even matter i've done some study uh you know we're we're all ears yes so we've talked about uh nostril nostril as you call it and a big discovery so nostre is this um decentralized it's basically twitter decentralized and um a lot of bitcoin bros like it because you can zap each other with uh with little bits of bitcoin uh but it it's it's it's really it's not all that great and and i think you know the bitcoin

bro is like it's censorship resistant okay uh so So there's really one app that does this, that does Nostor really well. And this one app got an investment or maybe just a stipend from Jack Dorsey. So, oh, this is great. And that's called Damus. That's the name of this app. Get it? Nostor Damus. So the Damus guy, I know,, the Damas guy posts, he says, hey, you know, we looked at our app store stats, and it turns out that after three months, 99% of the people who've tried this app give up on it.

And, you know, it was baffling to him. And I can tell you why. Because you get on this app, and there's no action. It's not yelling at you. It's not giving you stuff to follow. No, because there's no algos. There's nothing. That's a good point.

I don't know if the algos create the action or not, but they sure don't hinder it. There's no highlighting. There's no trending. I like the idea. You're right. People are yelling at each other. It's like watching a fight.

So now enter no algos. Just fight! But we have Mastodon. And I've been looking very closely at what's been going on in our own Mastodon server, which doesn't happen. Everyone hates you now. But that's what's so interesting. It's like love-hate.

Everyone just needs that little hit, that little, hey hit that little yeah i posted something on na social ah someone commented oh he doesn't agree with me that's even better you know it's like i say something simple like i don't like memes and now it's like hate memes don't hate memes there was a poll erin who runs the whole the whole instance said you know we should have a meme free monday everyone's mad mad, not bad. You're addicts. You're addicts. It's 100% addiction to...

It's probably even a better high than you get from some drugs. Because it's the same mechanism. This is what Silicon Valley figured out a decade ago. And so anything that feeds that, and again, this Hamas-Israel thing is fantastic. Because you can just go back and forth and call people names, and the algo throws it up in your face. And it's great. I mean, the troll room is a little different. The troll room is like, I'm going to go to a party.

I'm going to binge till I puke. You know, that's kind of what that is. Just throw some bombs, and people, you get immediate feedback. Yeah, that's different. I agree. That is different. what that is. Just, you know, go, just throw some bombs and people, you get immediate feedback. But I think in, yeah, that's different. I agree. That is different.

I think it's still social media, but it's of a different sort. It's binging. It's a, it's like a binge fest. Yeah. I'm just going to go and cram as much dope into me as I can until I puke and then I'm good.

And then here's something else. Well, it also comes and goes, you don't dwell on things, right? Oh yeah, exactly. Well, the dwelling factor, I think it's a big deal. But if, if you get also comes and goes, you don't dwell on things. Right. Oh, yeah, exactly. The dwelling factor, I think, is a big deal.

But if you get kicked off by me, you know, that's like you're a general of the troll room. You have massive props. So then I've noticed something else. Now, I don't have this per se, but I've seen friends and I think women more than anything. Maybe. I'm not sure. On text messages. So they have a text message thread,

and they're just sending memes back and forth about the news. And, you know, like, thumbs up. Ha, that's a good one. But there's no – it's like memeship. There's not even a – it's not even a friendship. They just shoot memes back and forth it's a completely empty relationship it's like uh it's like sex without love i don't know what it is is it this people really need to to set down the phones for a day it's not healthy what's going on

hey you're talking to the wrong guy i know i know i know i know now of course i still since december you haven't touched your phone i know you're you're a master i don't have an account anymore i mean i have to yeah i'm gonna try to get back on this on before the end of the year i'm gonna try but this is also why you are now 85 years old is because you have not succumbed you You have kept all of your... Yeah, it keeps the blood pressure down. Exactly. You have healthy blood pressure. You haven't worn out all of your brain cells.

And what's the... Dopamine you actually have for sex, not just for... I knew I'd get you with that one. So this is good. That's why... Be like John. Cook for yourself.

Don't have your phone. Just don't use your phone at all. Look at the trains. Don't have a phone. Look at the trains. Train, there goes a train. It's going by. And I think personally, the genius move, and not everybody can do this, is love your wife in a different state. I mean, this is just, you've got it made.

You've got it made. You've got it made. It's always a winner. So anyway, so I figured a couple things out. The M5M is already abusing this entire situation and uh before we get to it though uh first we have to have these because cnn is loving this we got ratings again we got guys with helmets we got we got chicks with flak jackets to say media press we have dangerous situations we got cool sound effects and what happened happened on CNN this morning, I mean, you couldn't ask for a better ratings buster than this.

So you are seeing this sort of solidarity that was called for, by the way, by Hamas all over the Arab world and the world alike. But you are also seeing the journalists gathered here because this is kind of where the clash of chiefs happens. So, all right. this is kind of where the classic shit happens. So, alright. You are genocide supporters! You are not welcome here! Genocide supporters!

Fuck CNN! Fuck CNN! Fuck CNN! Genocide supporters! That's fine. Alright, you see that people are very angry, they do not like the way All right. You see that people are very angry. They do not like the way that CNN has been reporting the story.

You hear that. Yeah, all right. I mean, that's dynamite for ratings. Good job there in the field. Her name is, what's her name? Her name is Sarah. What's her name? Sarah Sid is Sarah. What's her name? Sarah Sidners, I think.

Sarah Sidners. Good job. Give her a raise. Give her a raise. Erin Burnett, let's stir it up a little bit. Come on, Erin. Go, go, go. What we see Sarah dealing with on the ground in Ramallah,

obviously, you know, it is so important, right? These are pro-Palestinian protests, but there is also the perception of where the media stands, where American media stands. You are not welcome here. There is an anger and a resentment and a rage, and it is real. And it is important, and it is a part of the story as well. Pro-Palestinian, anti-Israeli, anti-American. Let's stop it right there for a second. We have absolutely no evidence that this whole thing wasn't staged. Thank you very much. And I'm going to show to you that uh probably was and it is important and it is a part of the story as well

pro-palestinian anti-israeli anti-american the this is this is often one big giant soup and it's very hard to pull those strings apart as that moment with sarah i think just illustrated so well it's a soup i tell you it's one giant soup we don't know what to do unfortunately for cnn abc was the first to the punch whenever you really want to go over the top with any type of attacking force you got to bring this in it's it's a good old friend of the show and we're learning that hamas terrorists who attacked israel may have been high on a drug designed to make them feel invincible. The drug Captagon was reportedly found on the bodies of terrorists and in the vehicles used

in the attack. Remember our old friend Captagon? If it wasn't the Russians, it was ISIS. It's all I forgot all about it on the Captagon. They're drugged out. It's a powerful amphetamine known as the poor man's cocaine. Experts say the drug may explain some of the extraordinary ferocity seen in the attack. Former DEA Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Crotty. With Captagon and other illicit substances, they just tend to strip people of all their humanity. They do things that they wouldn't ordinarily do. There's very little to stop them from committing all sorts of atrocities the drug makes users take crazy risks like this terrorist wearing a helmet cam who walked right into israeli gunfire yeah he's high

man they're all jacked up on poor man's cocaine we have this is from i think this is maybe one of your clips uh 2019 a backgrounder on captagon lebanon's becca valley has a history of smuggling and trafficking of all sorts an area where illegal activities include narcotics ahmed is one of those who transports and sells a type of amphetamine called captagon a cheap and hugely popular drug in the middle east oh so it's not just for fighters. It's just in the Middle East in general. All right.

Phenethylene. Always bring back the Captagon if you want to make it just a little more fun. They're high, man. They're crazy. And everything was going swimmingly well, and I've been waiting for something to pop up, and there it was in dc we had a pro-palestinian uh protest and uh well i happened to catch this on local fox 5 and i went down the

rabbit hole and just days after hundreds of arrests in the cannon building right here at the u.s capital more demonstrations popping up on the national mall. Let's get to Stephanie Ramirez joining us live. Steph, what is the sentiment out there today? People are marching in the pro-Palestinian ceasefire rally. Sharon, there is no doubt, if you don't hear it out here, the calls for a ceasefire in Gaza have definitely increased. I want to show you the crowd here. This is an organized protest that was permanent for around 500 people.

But we're seeing today a little bit different from what we saw on Wednesday. All right, you don't need to hear the whole report. She said it right there. This was an organized protest. Professional signs. Ha! As a no-agenda conspiracy therapist, this is where we start. The main sign was...

Hold on a second. Pray for the dead. Fight. What was that? Pray for the dead. Fight for peace. Now, this is typically fight like hell for peace that's when the uh unions use it but they didn't find it appropriate to put hell in here i guess and these signs were

made by the if not now movement organization if not now movement.org uh quickly we are if not now a movement of american jews organizing our community for equality justice and a thriving future for all our neighbors ourselves palestinians and israelis we are jews of all ages with ancestors from across the world and jewish backgrounds as diverse as the ways we practice our judaism, so I'm trying to figure out who's behind this, who's funding this, and here is a nice little bit on their website. After the war ended, now this was a previous war that they were protesting against, the founders joined the Momentum Organizing Community. That didn't ring any bell. The same community where Sunrise Movement and By the People and many more organized for a brighter future. Wait a minute, Sunrise Movement?

Isn't that those kids who were going into Nancy Pelosi's office? So I'm like, oh, okay, so this is organized. Let's go to the Momentum movement. And Momentum, a very interesting little outfit here. We offer training and support to movement organizers. Momentum offers training and support to hone organizers' skills in shifting public opinion, developing hundreds of leaders, and mobilizing by the thousands. We are committed to both strengthening existing groups and incubating new movement organizations they've got resources they've got guides they're a community of movement leaders and they've

apparently no not apparently they have organized this if if not now movement organization um so let's look at this um they have a donate button oh guess who this is not blue act blue of course it's the democrat party act blue now now good one good one so it's it's politics this is. Let's get to the staff of this organization because it's just worth looking at. Adiel Polidor, Advanced Training Director. Pronouns she, her. She's responsible for driving... Oh, no, it gets better.

She's responsible for driving our advanced training program, supporting the build-out of the leadership development pipeline. Through coaching, she leads the Momentum 201 training and Black Momentum. Okay. Amanda Saich, interim executive director. She's the boss. Pronouns, they, she. They, she.

Oh, it gets better. As Momentum's interim executive director, Amanda guides the team's institutional health leadership team and fundraising strategy and supports the largest strategic director of the direction of the organization they immigrated to wampanoag land as a little toddler and now live in lenape land aka brooklyn when they're renaming the towns now after the indians who they stole the land from when they're not or when they're not organizing or wrapped in the world of momentum, you can catch them jamming out to live music,

reading sci-fi in a local park, or cooking their mom's schizuan recipes. Okay? We have the operations coordinator, Brenda Valadares-Baliza. What is the point of the schizuan references? Is it some code? She's Chinese.

You've got code in here. She's Chinese. She's Asian. Oh, she's Chinese. Brenda Valadero. Oh, she's Chinese and concerned about the American Indians losing Brooklyn. Yes. Yes.

They, not she, they. Brenda. No, it says she, they, she. I call her she. Okay. Well, Brenda Valadero's Belaza is the operations coordinator. Her pronouns are she, her, and Ella. Ella?

She is formerly an undocumented immigrant from Peru. No, she should be exported. Recently exported. You mean extradited? I like exported. Recently moved from Patterson, New Jersey to Washington Heights. She loves to travel and explore different parts of the world, watch documentaries, video chat with loved ones,

study law, and cook big meals. So this is all, these are all lesbians of color, Maoists, Marxists. I love Delaine Andrea Powerful. She's managing director. Her pronouns, they, them, them spelled T-H-E-M-M-E, them. Delaine is a disabled black queer Jamaican who lives and organizes on the occupied lands of the Council of the Three Fires, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Potawatomi nations in Chicago, Illinois.

They enjoy playing, shoot me, they enjoy playing soccer being a plant auntie whining a plant auntie i'm just a plant auntie yes p-l-a-n-t-a-o-n-t-i-e a plant auntie whining their waist and absorbing all things all things afio and absorbing all things, all things Afro and absorbing all things Afro futurist, Octavia Butler and Marvel universe. This is the whole page is filled with this kind of people. These are complete crackpots. Yeah. And they're organizing and training the children of all these schools, these protests it's all part it's all

political people it's all political and to prove it who shows up in the atlantic with an article titled netanyahu's attack on democracy left israel unprepared none other than an apple bomb oh our friend. And Anne says, this summer I spent several days in Israel talking with people who were afraid for their country's future. They were not at that moment focused on terrorism, Gaza or Hamas. They feared something different. The emergence of an undemocratic Israel, a de facto autocracy. I'm just skipping ahead. Thanks to the financial and logistic support of the Israeli tech industry, the most dynamic economic sector in the country, as well as to organized teams of

people coming from academia and the army reserves, the protests kept going for many months and successfully blocked many of the proposed legal changes. This is all about the fascist, the dictator Netanyahu. And here we get into the meat of it. The deep, angry divides in Israeli politics, divides that are religious and cultural, but that were also deliberately created by Netanyahu and his extremist allies for their political and personal benefit, weren't just a problem for some liberal or secular Israelis.

The people I met believed the polarization of Israel was an existential risk for everybody. It's worse than climate change. Earlier this year, the head of Shin Bet, the Israeli domestic intelligence service, warned that Israeli settlers who were attacking West Bank Palestinians posed a security threat to the country. One member of parliament from Netanyahu's Likud party responded using language that will sound familiar to Americans. Quote, the ideology of the left has reached the top echelons of the Shin Bet. The deep state has infiltrated the leadership of Shin Bet and the IDF. And here it comes. If Donald Trump becomes president president again they may deliberately set out to weaken the institutions

themselves yes this is exactly what we're seeing here this is all about training the democrats to make sure that trump doesn't get elected it's all about it's all about trump these protests are about trump all of this stuff, the trainees hate Trump. They're all trans-Maoists. They're bad for America and probably bad for your children. The whole thing is about

politics. All of it. All of it. And some of it is about, obviously, the military industrialindustrial complex. That's Fox's job, really. You know, they're supposed to... Oh, CNN has the generals on.

I like that. But here's Judge Jeanine. In fact, I would say bomb them, bomb them, and then bomb them again. That's a new one. It's a new one. That's totally new. Yeah, she's completely gone back to her old bomb them, bomb them, bomb them again. She has this one.

She loves bombing people. You have this one. You're loading bombs, fueling. You're getting new pilots in. But they're going in, and they're going in hard. They know that their existence depends on this. I think she digs it, man. She's like, oh, yeah.

So hot. They're going to go in hard. Hard. Here's the last one somebody's gonna drop a nuke here i don't know who it is but i don't want to watch it what does that even mean judge janine somebody's gonna drop a nuke here what is wrong with these people i don't know other than they're out there doing anything. They're not helping things, that's for sure. No, of course not. It's horrible. It's horrible.

And social media playing right into it. It's beautiful. The whole thing is a perfect setup. Everybody's spinning out. I'm going crazy. This is so great. We got a... Telegram! Telegram is both a messaging and social media app.

People in the United States and across the world use it to video call and text message each other. Or someone can set up a group to send messages to followers. By the way, Rumble was already on the way out. Telegram is next. That second use is what we've seen most during the Israel-Hamas war. When Hamas attacked southern Israel on October 7th, their channel was flooded with propaganda videos showcasing their training and the fight against the nearby Israel Defense Forces. Both the Hamas account and the one for its military wing, the Al Qasim Brigades, have grown substantially since the war began. The Hamas account has gained more than 100,000 followers, while the Al Qasim Brigade account has added half a million new followers. So here is Deutsche Welle.

That was Scripps News. They're promoting it more than anything. Deutsche Welle is telling but i would mention scripps news is really a is really a very questionable source of news i've been watching the tv feed it's borderline disgusting do you know who owns most of fredericksburg scripps you bet oh yep yep you said you bet but But then I rescinded and I repented. Yeah, but even when I almost said 100%, I stopped myself. I know. I'm working on myself.

I'm trying. I'm trying. I really am. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. As far as I know, nice people, actually. But the news is very questionable. I'm sure they're long gone from the system they don't run it anymore so here's deutschevella telegraphing about telegram another front in the fast evolving

conflict between israel and hamas is the one found online disinformation is running rampant across social media where millions turn to get real-time updates. And with the very real imagery are floods of fabricated videos and photos spread by both fake and real accounts. The companies behind giants like Facebook, X, and TikTok say they've taken additional steps to tackle disinformation around the violence. But the EU has reprimanded social media companies for not doing enough. And about all that, we can now speak to Caitlin Chin Rothman. She's with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, where she researches the impact of technology on geopolitics and society. Caitlin, good to see you. Lots of people these days getting their information on social media with tensions running so high. How are

both sides in this conflict using social media to shape views of the war? We've seen both Hamas and the Israeli government use posts on social media quite often. Hamas has been posting on a platform called Telegram, which is less popular in the United States and the EU, but more popular in other parts of the world like Russia and Ukraine. Telegram has very loose content moderation policies, which has allowed Hamas to post very graphic or violent images from its initial attack on October 7th. I want to look a little closer at Telegram that you just mentioned because it's used by Hamas not only to spread propaganda,

but also to recruit new members. Now, this is an internationally recognized terror organization by much of the West, at least. Can the platform be held accountable for that? So it's very difficult. In the United States, at least, we have very loose content moderation laws. So platforms are generally not held accountable for third-party content that users upload. Now, that is different in other countries, especially the EU, which recently passed the Digital Services Act. And the online safety bill in the United Kingdom is about to come into effect.

Now, Telegram has not seen as much regulatory attention from the EU or the UK, I think partly because it's just not as popular in either jurisdiction. But I think going forward, I would expect governments to become more interested in how Telegram operates, especially if we continue to see violent extremist content emerge on these platforms in real time war situations. This is the perfect moment to clamp down on these, because of course we're in an election season. Very good moment to start clamping down on this stuff because clearly Telegram is a recruitment tool. Yes, PBS has some short little note here on all the horrible things from social media. The European Union pressed Meta and TikTok to explain what they're doing to block disinformation about the Israel-Hamas war. What are you doing?

The tech giants were given one week to respond. They could face billions in fines if they don't comply with a new law aimed at protecting users from false claims and other harmful content. And this brings us to a gripe a lot of people have with me but also with me and also with you me oh yeah yes you and this is because we poo-pooed and i would say slammed the westminster declaration pearl clutching with adam curry yes we're pearl clutching i read an email lord high imperator curry greetings from fema region deep south new zealand i need to take oh new zealand that's this new zealand new zealand what the hell what the hell's a new zealander got to do with anything that has to do with American censorship.

This is just indicative of several emails and tweets and toots I received. Sounds fake, but go on, Reed. No, it's not fake, and you just did a Karaschwischer. But go ahead. Hey, wait a minute. That was my invention.

Now you're crediting her with it? I need to take issue with the tone of your no agenda story on the Westminster Declaration. You are downright snide and your trademark MTV sneer. No, him reading this letter is snide. He was pretty straight up with the other thing. You were downright snide with your trademark MTV sneer was used to ill effect on a group of people merely highlighting the censorship regimes being installed in all Western democracies. Why wouldn't you be supportive of this? I expected immediate, fierce pushback from John C. Dvorak, but nothing. He joined you.

The Snidely Brothers, brothers in harms. Snidely Brothers, I love it. Uncool in the gang. Kiwi Paul. Uncool in the gang. Holy mackerel, this guy should be a copywriter. He's good, he's good, he's good. So we have been doing this since episode 1333 we have to do it every five to six

years and we're going to do it again um i will start off by saying the westminster declaration was released on the very day the very day the fcc voted and agreed to create new rules for the reintroduction of net neutrality. I'm sure it's just a coincidence, although I say there's no coincidences in the kingdom. And they say they want Article 19 to be observed and adhered to from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Now, any no-agenda person should immediately think, hmm, that's a United Nations document, maybe not the best thing in the world. But, doesn't matter, let's look at Article 19. Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression. This right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive, and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. So that's what you're really going to bat over. May I remind you, Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, these are leftists. Just because you agree with them on lockdowns and vaccines and what, doesn't mean that they're not inherently, they love government regulation. That's what these guys love. They thrive on it. You will not get free speech from commercial platforms or maybe from anything called a platform at all. And what they are calling for, in my mind, because it coincides exactly with the vote, which was three to two, is net neutrality.

And we have had so much pushback in the past about our stance on net neutrality. And people say, why wouldn't you want it to be neutral, man? And we have had so much pushback in the past about our stance on net neutrality. And people say, why wouldn't you want it to be neutral, man? Because net neutrality is as honest as the inflation reduction act. Haven't we learned these things by now? When they call it something, it means the opposite. Did you like your cell phone alert from the government? Everyone was bitching and moaning about it.

Hey, man, the government taking over my phone. That'll be on every computer you own if this goes through. And this will lead to digital ID. That is the end game of what they are really asking for. Anonymity will end. There goes your trolling. Because they want Title II to adhere to the Internet. Now, I listened to FCC Chair Rosenvorsel. She was on the FCC panel back during Obama when they went through this the first time. And she is now the chair.

And I want to go through a few things from her speech. And subsequently play a few historical no agenda clips. Because we've been through this before. You don't want it. You do not want the government with their net neutrality. It's a trick. But you know, the pandemic did something else. It made crystal clear that broadband is no longer just nice to have. It's need to have for everyone

everywhere. It's not a luxury. It's a necessity. It is essential infrastructure for modern life. No one without it has a fair shot at 21st century success. We need broadband to reach 100% of us and we need it to be fast, open, and fair. Okay, this is the slogan. Go get the bumper sticker, get your t-shirt. Fast, open, and fair. Now, I don't have a huge argument with the idea that everybody should have broadband. For some reason, we've never been able to really get it together, even though we've spent hundreds of millions of dollars, given that to telephone companies to create broadband for everybody,

broadband for all. This goes back to Obama. It just got stolen. A portion of the country still doesn't have it but that's really the ruse using the pandemic oh man well without broadband we couldn't leave when we lock you that is the lamest ruse that ruse that's the one it's like uh don't worry like who cares what is broad what does one got to do with the other covid had nothing to do with the internet but okay when we were locked down that's that's what she was at this oh so we could go to school yes i chopped a whole bunch out of this for obvious reasons so what she wants is on par with the telephone networks

back in the era when communications meant telephony each and every call went through and the phone company could not cut you off from your call or decide to edit the content of your conversation. Do you want to say something here? What world was she living in? When you had to put a quarter in and you had to get the yak, yak, yak, and then you click, you're done. They cut you off. What do you mean? They never cut you off.

They cut you off all the time. click you're done they cut you off what do you mean they never cut you off they cut you off all the time so where does that that imaginary scenario come from this is to trick everybody into wanting this she's lying i'll get to the that is a blatant lie oh there's a another whopper coming up from your call or decide to edit the content of your conversation. Now fast forward to the present. Communications means a whole lot more than just phone calls. It means access to the internet because broadband is the most important infrastructure of our time. Note the important, important, she's a very young, important. But as a result of the previous FCC's decision to drop, abdicate authority, the agency charged with overseeing communications has limited ability to oversee these indispensable networks and make sure that for every consumer, their access is fast. Note that she talks about consumers.

If you're a creator, screw you. Open and fair. I think that's not right. It's not right. Because for everyone everywhere to enjoy the full benefits of the internet age, internet access should be more than just accessible and affordable. The internet needs to be... What?

It's more than just accessible and affordable the internet needs to be what it's more than just accessible and affordable it seems like accessible and affordability is really what it's all about what you want what more could you want uh hold on and affordable the internet needs to be open and that's what i want to talk about it is open no no she wants, when the government says, I want it to be open, please read that as, I want it to be closed. How is it not open right now? Oh, wait, they want to close it off. They want to close it off. Here we go.

Next clip. Let's start in 2005. That was when the FCC adopted its first open internet policy statement, which was built on policies that had long been in communications law and history. The agency made clear that when it came to net neutrality, consumers should expect that their broadband providers would not block, throttle, or engage in paid prioritization of lawful internet traffic. And there's my favorite word. Here we go. Not lawful content, lawful internet traffic. And I have a copy. If anyone, I marked it up. If you want to go through the entire proposed rulemaking, 126 pages, the term lawful traffic and lawful

transfer is all over this thing. This is the main problem. This is the trick. In other words, your broadband provider had no business cutting off access to websites, slowing down internet services, and censoring online speech. Which never happened. There's not one example of that. The broadband internet provider just provides the broadband. He's not one example of that your broadband broadband internet provider just

provides the broadband he doesn't he's not twitter they barely do that your broadband provider was not allowed to play favorites like steering you fast to some online service that had given them a payout never happened and assigning you to a bumpy road for those who had not offered up the same never happened you're right this is all bullcrap but by but i i hope you get to the end here because i wanted you to go with your spiel about lawful now we're getting to that i had this is a presentation these clips are all very short it's an presentation. And the next part is her explanation of why Title II, the same regulation for your phone line. And there's regulation. There's a lot of stuff you can't do on the phone. And the government, I think, I'm pretty sure the government completely can hear and do anything they want on your phone networks but we need title two now for the internet here's why title two is the part of the law that gives the fcc clear authority to serve as a watchdog watchdog over the communications marketplace and look out for the public interest

okay i'm from the government i'm here here to help. Title II took on special importance in the net neutrality debate because the courts have ruled that the FCC has clear authority to enforce open internet policies if broadband internet is classified as a Title II service. Very important what she's saying here. Not saying that the court said, yeah, you should be doing this. They say, if it is classified as Title II, then the FCC has absolute authority over the internet. Just trust Uncle Adam and Uncle John, you don't want this. And providing a strong foundation

for net neutrality rules is a good reason to support classifying broadband internet as a Title II service. But again, there are downstream consequences that flow from the agency retreating from Title II. Downstream consequences that flow? That doesn't sound healthy. And they need attention.

So let me explain. Back to the pandemic. It made clear that broadband is essential infrastructure for modern life. Access to the internet is now access to everything it's access to everything and common sense tells us that the nation's leading communications watchdog should have the muscle it needs muscle muscle you're giving me high blood pressure i got well you don't have a phone i need to do something to kill you yes you want to say you want to say something?

You know, listening to this is very annoying because I know that other people must be lapping it up. And I would include the people that signed that document. Yes. Lapping it up, not realizing that it is a trick. We're getting there.

It's a complete, bogus trick. We're getting to the trick. It should have the muscle it needs to protect consumers and make sure their internet access is fast, open, and fair. Now to a big lie. Here's a big lie. On one issue after issue, classifying broadband as a Title II service would help the FCC serve the public interest more efficiently and effectively. So let's start with public safety. In its remand of the FCC's decision to roll back net neutrality, the court found the agency's disregard of its duty to analyze the impact of public safety renders the decision arbitrary and capricious i agree here we go the

record before the court demonstrated that when firefighters in santa clara california were responding to wildfires they discovered that the wireless connectivity on their command vehicle was lie that's a lie because we reported on this in episode 1079 november 21st 2018 let's go back and let's listen to what the story really was and was it not verizon that came into a very bad light because they cut off the firefighters in California because they had run out of data. Bastards. That was Verizon, correct? I believe so. And so these guys, they couldn't use

their account. They had to switch to a different account, according to the Verizon rep, because they had run out of data. And of course, these guys are there fighting fires and they needed data. And so it was a bad PR story for Verizon. Let me just go back and listen to what the FCC chairwoman lied. The record before the court demonstrated that when firefighters in Santa Clara, California were responding to wildfires, they discovered the wireless connectivity on their command vehicle was being throttled.

It was not being throttled. So she's lying. As usual. Liars. All right, so what else? What do they really want to do? Well, you know, we're not just here to make sure you get cheap and affordable broadband. No.

Then look at cybersecurity. The FCC is actively involved in federal interagency cybersecurity planning, coordination, and response activities. You want the expert agency with all sorts of knowledge about network technology to be sitting at that table. You have to stop it and pitch again.

So this FCC that's so hot shit, why haven't they done anything about the 10 or 20 robocalls I get a day? I'm glad you asked. Then look at privacy. The law requires telecommunications providers to protect the confidentiality of the proprietary information of their customers. That means these providers cannot sell your location data, among other sensitive information. These privacy protections currently extend to phone service customers, but not to broadband subscribers, because Title II does not cover the latter.

Does that really make sense? Do we want our broadband providers selling off where we go and what we do online? Scraping our service for a payday for new artificial intelligence models doing any of this without our permission yeah so i was you were one clip ahead of me exactly the robocalls still continue they have done nothing with their title to authority to stop that nothing no nothing zip and they could do something if they wanted to and and meanwhile this bullc, this other stuff is all bull crap. The providers aren't tracking us.

Apple might be tracking us. Google might be tracking us. These aren't providers. So I pulled two clips so we don't have to, you know, just because we're lazy. We don't have to really go over everything all over again let me see what happened what is this what is this weird no but i may revisit my old columns i've been writing about this for a decade this is uh no agenda episode 950 and that is from that is from uh 27th, 2017.

This is Greg Walden. He's a Republican from Oregon. And he is the, this is an oversight subcommittee, but he's actually the head guy of the Energy and Commerce Committee. He's the chair. And he is a very powerful person. And just listen to the question he asked. This is Net Neutrality Basics opening.

Including Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, and Charter Communications, inviting each of them to come and testify before our full Energy and Commerce Committee. It's time for Congress to legislate the rules of the Internet and stop the ping-pong game of regulations and litigation. And make no mistake, given the importance of this public policy debate and the work we need to do as a committee, it is essential that we hear directly from the country's top Internet and edge provider leaders who frequently speak out publicly about rules of the Internet. It's time they came before us and directly shared their positions and answered our questions wow yeah i think there's some subtext there there's a little more than subtext time to stop this these series of tubes that's the guy when he said the quote it's time for congress to legislate the rules of the Internet.

Boom. Could it be any more clear to anybody out there listening? Podcast license. Podcast license is coming. That's what will happen with net neutrality. That's what happens with Title II. It's time to legislate the rules of the internet. Hate speech is already illegal in 49 states, whatever that means. Now to the genesis of our reporting. We go back to 2009, No Agenda episode 133, and this brings back the core term. The fifth principle of non-discrimination the fifth principle is one of non-discrimination stating that broadband providers cannot discriminate against particular internet content or applications uh this means they cannot block

or degrade lawful traffic over their networks or pick lawful traffic okay so that means they're gonna have to sniff it i mean it's all in here traffic. Okay, so that means they're going to have to sniff it. I mean, it's all in here, right? You can just see what they're doing. Lawful traffic. What is lawful traffic? Okay, all traffic is lawful. So I think we should declare that the last 20 years was the golden age of porn.

It's all over. It's all over. That's right. They cannot disfavor an Internet service just because it competes with a similar service. This principle will not prevent broadband providers from reasonably managing their networks. During periods of network congestion, for example, it may be appropriate for providers to ensure that very heavy users do not crowd out everyone else like bittorrent users and this principle will not constrain efforts to ensure a safe secure and spam-free internet experience i don't want a safe secure spam-free internet experience i want

porn i want pop-ups i want all kinds viruses. That's what makes the internet cool. And there it is. We've been doing this for 16 years. You don't want your Westminster Declaration from a bunch of... By the way, the Westminster Declaration, wasn't that like against catechism or something?

It was like it's like a bunch of atheists hijacking some religious vibe i have no idea but you do not know the reference to something else yeah obviously you don't want net neutrality it sounds great but just remember net neutrality is as honest as the inflation reduction act well let's get back to the this lawful thing which is the pet peeve of yours and i think it's the basis yeah it's the crux which is torrents will be illegal you have a deep packet sniffer tour will be illegal it sees it sees a tour or touring whatever you want to call it yeah advertising it sees it says up nap no good this means anyone out there

who thinks they're going to download music or or big giant files from each other or i think they'll probably put the archive.org out of business and everything in between this whole thing is it's always about copyright of course it's always driven by the movie or the movie companies yeah they always drive he's losing 10 cents or a buck. Because, you know, somebody's downloaded an old copy of some movie from the 30s. And they could have probably maybe begged somebody. There's no available copy of it. But, you know, Turner Classic Movies likes to play it once a year.

And so you're taking money for it, even though they don't do advertising, but you're still taking their bread and butter away. I mean, this whole thing is always about the movie industry. It's about the content, the copyrighted content and how it's, I own it and I get to do what I want with it. So throughout this entire document, these are the things you need to be looking out for.

And this is their proposed rules. And this will take a little bit, but they've gone through the initial hurdle of, and that was three weeks after the speech. And that was on the 19th. So it was on our last show day, they voted three to two, good to go. We're going to go move forward with the rulemaking process.

The same day those yahoos came out with their Westminster declaration. In order to fit the technical and economic realities of the broadband ecosystem, the restrictions on blocking and discrimination will be made subject to an exception for, quote, reasonable network management, allowing service providers the freedom to address legitimate needs such as avoiding network congestion and combating harmful or illegal content. Well, go look at, go, I mean, this is, this is exactly what you don't want. Because it's open to interpretation what is harmful

yeah anti-vax information that was accurate about the uh about the about the vaccine um is that harmful of course of course some people think it is so so you now you have one group of people that think that information is good and valuable, and another group saying, oh, it's terrible. It's making people so they're reluctant to take the vax. Additionally, we propose to reinstate a general conduct standard that would prohibit practices that would cause unreasonable interference or unreasonable disadvantage to consumers or edge providers. So what is reasonable? They don't define it, of course. No, you can't define it. No. And then

it's safeguarding national security. So the NSA is going to be in the network. They're going to have to be able to safeguard. It's for your protection. All of this is for your protection. They're going to have to be able to safeguard. It's for your protection. All of this is for your protection. Commission's efforts in coordination with other agencies will be protecting the nation's communications network from entities and equipment and services that pose. I mean, listen to this. Equipment and services that pose threats to national security and law enforcement.

Uh-oh, someone's using Graphene OS. Orange alert. Orange alert. Yep, yep. Someone has a non-approved device. Yep, yep. Someone has a non-approved device connected to it. And these efforts will be pursuant to Presidential Policy Directive 21.

But go look at that. That's a doozy, which tasks the commission, FCC, with identifying communications sector vulnerabilities and working with industry and other stakeholders to address those vulnerabilities and increase the security and resilience of this critical infrastructure within the communications sector. And here's my favorite. Another initiative is the commission's inquiry into vulnerabilities threatening the security and integrity of border gateway protocol, which impacts the transmission of data from email, e-commerce, and bank transactions to

interconnected voice over IP and 911 calls. The commission noted that Border Gateway Protocol's initial design, which remains widely deployed today, does not include security features to ensure trust in the information it is used to exchange. This is going after DNS. They want DNS. They want to be able to disconnect

your entire network segment. want dns they want that they want to be able to disconnect your entire network segment um let's see yeah they want to be able to pull the plug on who they don't like yes on who they don't like it allows a bad network actor to deliberately falsify bgp reachability information to redirect traffic to itself through a specific third-party network which means that's what they want to do. But you say it by yourself. All right, man, we should be able to redirect to us and prevent traffic from reaching its intended recipient.

Reclassification would provide the commission with additional authority to address BGP vulnerabilities. There's enough dudes named Ben out there who know that this is nuts. there's enough dudes named Ben out there who know that this is nuts. So, so when we have these, these intellectual dark web people, all lefties,

Brett Weinstein, all leftists who are saying, hey man, we should be able to, we shouldn't be kicked off of Twitter or Facebook. It should be fair. We should be able to say what we want to say. You're going to get it. You're going to get exactly what you want.

You're going to get exactly what you want. I wonder who was behind that thing. I don't believe it was Taibbi or Greenwald. They're not guys who initiate these things. It had to be someone else. That's a good point. I'm not so sure. There's a troublemaker in that group

who got the crowd riled up. Well, it's Greenwald and Taibbi are leading the charge. They're at the top of the list. Yeah, that's what you'd put. If I was putting something together like that, those are the two guys. They got the big numbers.

They got a lot of attention to themselves. They seem legit in every way. I would put them at the top of the list, too. But there's got to be somebody that organized this, and it wasn't them. That's a good... Let's look at the list again. So Taibbi, Schellenberger... Schellenberger sounds more like it.

Yeah, Schellenberger. Well, he went to court. And again, I agree with a lot of the things Schellenberger has said and done but he's misguided Jonathan Haidt H-I-D-T he's written a lot about bad things that

happen to people with social networks Steven Pinker that's his partner I think Julian Assange is on here. Tim Robbins. How did they get him to sign anything? I don't know.

Tim Robbins is on board. He's right at the top. I think it's Tim Robbins. I think Tim Robbins. I doubt it. John Cleese. They just went, hey, man, we need some names. Oliver Stone.

All leftists. Yeah, all of them. Jordan Peterson. Barry Weiss. All leftists. Yeah, all of them. Jordan Peterson. Barry Weiss. Peter Hitchens. Niall Ferguson. Yanis Varoufakis. A Marxist.

Yeah, open Marxist. Yeah. So. I think there's a couple of open Marxists on there. Yeah. Yeah, so. Yeah, there's no right what name one right winger i mean you might make the argument that peterson is kind of a right winger but i don't i don't know

i don't know but he but there's name a you know some you have classic classic classic classic people listed on there but you don't have the classic people on the right there's nobody no no they needed a john c dvorak and adam curry on this list if there's money in it we don't got stuff a lot of these people are very wealthy keep your names off these things people a lot of these people are wealthy too not all but many of them are quite well and one last thing about the net neutrality thing we have to remember, because they keep saying it's got to be fair and cheap. One of my networks is Sonic. Sonic has two programs.

They have a gigabit and they have a two gigabit. Well, I have to pay more for the two gigabit. That would be kicked off. That's kicked off the planet because that's unfair that I have to pay more to get to higher speed. So everything would be downgraded. All your speeds will go down with net neutrality. Fast, open and fair.

So it, cause everyone has to have the same speed. It's, it's a way of leveling the playing field, meaning you're going to get whatever the minimum is. Is everyone happy with their telephone service now that's on their title too yeah i'm still getting the calls i got a call from eliza the robocop that so that worked really well anyway i put a link into openinternet.gov the

archive.org version because that was the previous... You can go review. That was the previous website. That's gone now, of course. And you'll get a spam-free internet. If someone's telling you you can get a spam-free internet, then they are sniffing packets,

or they're doing something. That's a lie. What they're doing is lying. Yeah, because they want control, and even the Republicans, as you heard, they're ready for it. Yes, time to moderate that thing. And why are they doing it?

They're doing it now because they want to get stuff rammed through so they can control elections. Control what's going on during elections. It's obvious. Yeah, so they can keep trump out it all comes back down to trump she's a wesleyan grad this fcc yeah yeah exactly well let's talk about the uh campaign then with a little overview this is the the clip is 10-24 campaign. It's about 2024. I just put the one in there by accident.

Okay, now the Democrat may soon enter the 2024 presidential race, challenging President Biden for the nomination. This comes as a new poll today shows former President Trump is leading over Biden in a potential 2024 matchup. NTD's Arian Pasdar has an election update. Congressman Dean Phillips is reportedly planning to enter the 2024 presidential race. Politico reports the Minnesota Democrat could challenge President Biden for the Democratic nomination. Phillips is reportedly laying the groundwork in key early states, paving the way

for the announcement of his presidential run. This comes as a new poll on Friday shows former President Trump is leading over Biden in a potential 2024 matchup. The new Emerson College poll shows that 47% of voters say they'd vote for Trump. 45% say they're supporting Biden. Less than 10% are undecided The same poll gives Trump an even stronger lead when it comes to young voters Emerson found that Trump leads Biden by 11 points in voters in their 30s

Just on Friday, Trump attacked Biden on Truth Social for the president's handling of international affairs Trump says the Israel war started because of the Biden administration and their policies of weakness and appeasement. He added, this is true also with Ukraine-Russia, which would never have started under the Trump administration and many other hotspots around the globe that could easily lead to big problems and death. Meanwhile, Republicans with less approval in the polls are fighting each other, especially Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley. The two went back and forth all week long on the issue of taking in refugees from Gaza.

Now, just on Friday, Haley released a new campaign ad directly targeting DeSantis. I find it very interesting that she still is out there and trying to get some action. She's got big Silicon Valley money behind her. I think she has big oil money behind her, too. Yeah, she's got money. She's got lots of money behind her. But she hasn't got... Money doesn't buy charisma.

Charisma. She got charisma. She hasn't got that. She hasn't got enough of that to get by, which is a shame for her. But I don't like her policies anyway she's really anti-trump she's pro-war she might as well be a neocon she's very pro-war yeah the bomb them again the the big anti-trump news that uh we had to stop you know breaking new by the way notice that all the nbc channels they're you know they're all pro uh palestine and it's not because they hate jews or care about palestinians

it's because trump yeah that's their their base their their viewers are the the people who are mind controlled by these uh by this this outfit to go out and protest. It's all political. They're actually the worst people in the world because they really don't care either way. They don't care who's killed or whose baby's heads are chopped off faster than the other. They don't care. It's about Trump.

And boy, were the networks happy with this news. Sidney Catherine Powell. She was at the center of Donald Trump's effort to overturn his 2020 loss, publicly pushing outlandish claims of election fraud, and privately meeting with the former president inside the White House. But tonight, just one day before her trial was set to begin, Sidney Powell pleading guilty and agreeing to cooperate with prosecutors. Ms. Powell, do you understand the charges that are against you here today?

I do. Powell spread the false conspiracy theory Georgia election machines were controlled by Venezuela, even pointing a finger at the country's former dictator, Hugo Chavez, who is dead. This was exported from Venezuela by Maduro and by Mr. Chavez. This is the consummate foreign interference in our election. In an Oval Office meeting on December 18, 2020, Powell allegedly suggesting Trump name her special counsel to investigate election fraud.

In that same meeting, Trump and his team allegedly weighed seizing voting machines, even declaring martial law. As part of her plea deal, Powell is now required to testify against her co-defendants including the former president so that's the abc version and by the way what she so what she pled she did a plea deal which is probably what she needed to do to not you know yeah i have a i have a clip another clip uh about the other guy who just did the plea deal after she did. And if you listen to it and read between the lines, this is the Georgia clip, says Georgia.

If you read between the lines or listen between the lines, these guys are doing this just to save, I mean, they're not getting any jail or anything. They're doing it to save their pocketbook. They'd go broke. Pocketbook. I only have Georgia plea bargain two. Is there go broke. Their pocketbook. I only have Georgia plea bargain two. Is there a one?

Unfortunately, no. A northern Georgia defendant cuts a deal. Attorney Ken Chesbro gets five years probation in exchange for cooperating with prosecutors. That leaves 16 defendants, including former President Trump, in the Fulton County RICO case. Here's more from legal correspondent Arlene Richards. Another day, another plea deal. A third defendant in the sprawling Georgia election racketeering case pleads guilty. He's the second attorney to do so, but the only one to accept a felony charge. How do you plead to count 15 conspiracy to commit filing false documents in indictment number 23 sc 188947

guilty guilty attorney ken chessbro was facing six felony charges in the election fraud case brought by prosecutor fannie willis against 19 defendants the prosecutor said she would have shown at trial that i thought it was fanny now it it's Fannie. It's Fannie. How I love you. And several other defendants entered into a criminal conspiracy to cause certain other co-conspirators, including David James Schaefer, Sean Micah Thrasher Steele and Kathleen Austin Latham to falsely hold themselves out as the duly elected and qualified electors for the president and vice president from Georgia following the November 3rd, 2020 presidential election. This is interesting. So I think Georgia is one of the few places where you can,

you can put a whole bunch of things together and then call it a conspiracy. And so these conspiracy charges that, that Sidney Powell pled guilty to are misdemeanors. I mean, she got like $5,000 fine and it was literally to commit international interference with performance of election duties. But I don't even know what that means. Sidney, this is one of those situations where people should realize that if the government, especially state governments that are corrupt at the point, at the district attorney, at the district attorney level, and they just want to go after you by dumping stuff on you and they have an amenable judge.

It can't be because most judges that aren't amenable to this sort of thing, they just throw the case out immediately, say we got better things to do with our time. But you had that situation, the perfect storm. You're screwed. A friend of ours went to jail for 18 months over something stupider.

Yeah, very similar. The DA had a grudge. Yep. Had a relationship with the prosecution. Yep. There's no with the prosecution. Yep. There's no harm, no financial harm, but off to the big house. CBS, their version. Sidney Powell, the conspiracy peddling former attorney for...

By the way, we do hang with criminals. It's kind of cool to say. Former President Donald Trump sat in a Fulton County courtroom today and admitted to her role in the breach of voting systems in Georgia. Are you pleading guilty today because you agree that there is a sufficient factual basis, that there are enough facts that support this plea of guilty? I do. Powell was sentenced to six years probation, will pay thousands in fines, and write an apology letter to the citizens of Georgia. I love that. You have to write on the blackboard 50 times. I will not

commit this bad conspiracy. Along with Trump, she was one of 19 defendants in the case brought by District Attorney Fannie Willis. Powell agreed to testify truthfully against her co-defendants at future trials. If I'm Donald Trump or I'm Donald Trump's lawyer, I would certainly not be happy. Beyond Georgia, Powell was a central figure in pushing Trump's false election denial claims. President Trump won by a landslide. In a now infamous December 2020 Oval Office showdown, Powell pushed to seize voting machines to look for fraud. And although Trump entertained her conspiracy theories, some White House lawyers were appalled. What they were proposing,

I thought was nuts. Powell's impact. That's not the same as being appalled. He thought it was nuts. He wasn't appalled. I thought it was nuts. Powell's impact on Trump and others in the case

could be significant. You were ever in the room with Sidney Powell. You are very, very nervous now. What you notice from the reporting, and I had to go and I had to look for about 10 minutes to find out what she actually pled guilty to. All of this is they make it sound like she committed some horrible offense and they just, you know, they don't actually tell you what you pled guilty to and here's the final one from NBC. Wait, wait, wait.

That last one was ABC? That was CBS. Last one was CBS. Oh, CBS. I just want to mention your comment about that was nuts and saying that was appalled. That guy was appalled when he wasn't. That's a very different emotion. I think it's a great example

of slanted coverage. NBC. Tonight, once an attorney, then a co-defendant, now a cooperator. How do you plead to the sixth council of conspiracy to commit?

Once an attorney. Has she been disbarred? I don't think she's been disbarred. Has she? Has she been disbarred? I don't think so. Once an attorney, then now a criminal.

That's the Bar Association disbarred you, not the judge. You know, you're a't think so. Once an attorney, then now a criminal. The Bar Association disbars you, not the judge. You know, you're a criminal. Tonight, once an attorney, then a co-defendant, now a cooperator. How do you plead to the sixth council of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with the forms of election duties? Guilty. So that was interesting. NBC puts it right at the top of the report. Sidney Powell, one of 19 charged alongside the former president in a sprawling conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia, pleading guilty to six reduced charges in court today,

just as jury selection for her trial was set to begin tomorrow. Do you agree that there is a sufficient factual basis, that there are enough facts that support this plea of guilty? I do. You see what they're doing? This is great. A remarkable about face for one of guilty. I do. You see what they're doing? This is great. A remarkable about face for one of Mr. Trump's fiercest defenders. I'm going to release the Kraken.

Kraken! Often pushing baseless conspiracy theories. Well done. Where'd the Kraken go? Kudos, kudos for NBC on the Kraken. Yeah, very good edit job. Good one, good one. A remarkable about face for one of Mr. Trump's fiercest defenders.

I'm going to release the Kraken. Often pushing baseless conspiracy theories, the last election was stolen. President Trump won by a landslide. We are going to prove it. Instead, she's now admitted to helping organize the breach of sensitive voting equipment in a rural elections office. Agreeing as part of the new plea deal with prosecutors to write an apology letter to the people of Georgia, hand over documents to investigators, and come clean about all that she knows about her former client as Mr. Trump continues to fight the charges against him.

You're here to testify truthfully against any... So this is interesting. So the voiceover here says to come clean about everything she knows. Come clean. No. The only thing, because it's followed by the truth. You will testify truthfully. As part of the new plea deal with prosecutors to write an apology letter to the people of Georgia,

hand over documents to investigators, and come clean about all that she knows about her former client as Mr. Trump continues to fight the charges against him. You're to testify truthfully against any and all co-defendants in this matter at any upcoming proceedings. Powell's testimony likely an asset for the Fulton County D.A., who's now managed to secure two guilty pleas so far. I mean, to testify truthfully doesn't mean that's an advantage to the prosecution. No, it could be a disadvantage. She's probably thought, yeah, I to testify truthfully doesn't mean that's an advantage to the prosecution. No, it could be a disadvantage. She's probably thought, yeah, I'll testify truthfully.

Yeah, sure, why wouldn't you? That's what you do. That's what you're supposed to do. That's what happens when you pledge to testify. And once you have a plea deal, that's it. They can't renege on that, I don't think. Yeah, they can. Unless you're Hunter Biden. No, they can't. They can't? Oh, really? Yeah, there's a lot of different ways you don't

watch enough criminal tv shows i don't i don't yeah i'm sorry i'm no good yeah they can renege but they won't they don't have time for it because it's costing them money too yeah yeah yeah they're just you know make it sound like she's got some the goods she has the goods gonna come clean and turn and turn in Trump because he was obviously ringing his hands and going, here's what we're going to do, ladies. I don't think so. Oh, that was good. I love that. Let's see.

Of course, we had on the last show day, we had President Biden doing his primetime message. What did you think his jacked up factor was? I give him a five. It was low. I agree. I was expecting more jackness. But around four minutes, he started to stutter and he was coughing. Oh, they didn't keep him on long.

They don't give him enough juice. They don't leave him on. If they give him a good hot shot, just below enough to kill him, he'll go in an hour. Good hot shot. Yeah. All right. Here's ABC's report tonight. For the first time, the U.S. has taken military action in this war to defend. I'm sorry, that's not the right one. That's not the right one. Here is CBS. That's what I mean. We're going to begin with a very forceful message from President Biden last night. Did you see it? He's urging the

American people to rally around Israel and Ukraine. The president made his case last night in a rare primetime address from the Oval Office. You're rare. No kidding. He argued that the U.S. should not should not let partisan politics get in the way of billions of dollars of new aid to those countries. A clear message to Congress. The president's speech comes as the U.S. faces criticism in the Arab world for supporting Israel and its controversial bombing campaign in Gaza with a possible ground invasion looming. For more on this critical moment in global politics, let's bring in Ed O'Keefe, who is at the White House. Ed, good morning. Nate, good to see you. For the first time last night, the president tied together the conflict in Ukraine and the conflict in the Middle East, arguing sustained U.S. engagement.

How many times are these guys going to pass off this story? What do you mean, pass it off? The one guy comes on and he passes off to number two, and number two passes off to number three. Do they ever tell us the story? Yes. Let me share with you why making sure Israel and Ukraine succeed is vital for America's national security. President Biden in a rare Oval Office primetime address. How many times do I have to say rare?

It's so rare. So rare. Very rare. It's very rare. Very rare. Laid out the stakes for Americans. And he has some convincing to do. Rare stakes.

As new CBS polling finds, more than half of Americans disapprove of how the president's handling the Israel-Hamas conflict. And notably, a third of Democrats disapprove, which creates a challenge as he prepares to ask to spend billions more to defend Israel. That third of Democrats, they're the mind controls. Well, there's your 30% of mind-controlled people. And Ukraine. Hamas and Putin represent different threats, but they share this in common. They both want to completely annihilate a neighboring democracy. And while Russia's invasion of Ukraine stretches into nearly its 20th month,

the president gave some of his most expansive comments yet, justifying continued U.S. support. If we walk away and let Putin erase Ukraine's independence, would-be aggressors around the world be emboldened to try the same? Mr. Biden is set to ask Congress today for roughly $100 billion in emergency spending over the next year. It includes $60 billion to support Ukraine, around $14 billion for Israel,

and a $5 million VIG. And the rest would support Indo-Pacific countries, including Taiwan against Chinese aggression, plus billions more for U.S. border security and disaster relief. It's a smart investment that's going to pay dividends for American security for generations. The speech comes as overall, Americans strongly support sending humanitarian aid to israelis and palestinians and in using diplomacy to try to end the conflict by caution the government of israel not to be

blinded by rage the president i love the editing job here....initarian aid to Israelis and Palestinians, and in using diplomacy to try to end the conflict. I caution the government of Israel not to be blinded by rage. The president also denounced attacks on innocent Palestinians abroad and here at home, recalling the brutal murder this week of a six-year-old Muslim boy from the Chicago area. Ah, there it is. Officials say the Palestinian-American was stabbed to death by his family's landlord in a hate crime attack and to all you hurting those of you hurting i want you to know i see you you belong and i want

to say this to you you're all america he's talking to the base and he reiterated dual global conflicts are a direct threat even worlds away. American leadership is what holds the world together. American alliances will keep us America safe. Yeah, real safe. There's no. I have. I have that.

They chopped that clip. I have a 13 second continuous Biden from speech. And I brought here odd comment and there's something about that when when you piece it together listening to it this way it's got an odd moment I'm going to send to Congress an urgent budget request to fund America's national security needs to support our critical partners including Israel and Ukraine is a smart investment that's going to pay dividends for American security for generations. Going to pay dividends? How is it going to pay dividends?

Well, it's going to pay dividends for everyone who invests in the Ukraine rebuilding project is going to get dividends. Doesn't mean that we're going to get all that business. What? A president lying? No, of course not. But we know that the consultant said, you got to get in now, get in on the ground floor because the money's coming. The $60 billion, this is what it's for. And there's a $5 billion VIG in there somewhere that I think goes to James Biden. This is all so corrupt. also corrupt i thought that israel hamas was the this was the big one this is the big war this is what we really need to be afraid of but no most of the money goes to ukraine i don't i don't get it anymore now now of course the president's speech did not did not do the right thing at all. And Bolton came out, the mustache fart sniffer.

The principal threat to peace and security in the Middle East today and for some years back has been Iran. In the current circumstance, they're the ones who have armed and trained and equipped and financed Hamas. They've done the same with Palestinian Islamic Jihad. They've done the same with Hezbollah. They've done the same with the Syrian military. And remember just yesterday, demonstrating again, they've done it with the Houthi rebels in Yemen. A U.S. destroyer in the Red Sea destroyed several cruise missiles and I think some drones heading north in the Red Sea, probably toward Israel. So the Houthis wouldn't have two rocks to rub together if it weren't for the equipment Iran has given them. Iran is the central factor here. And last night, the president's address, which was fine as far as it went, did not address that crucial point.

How can you have a strategy if you don't know what the main threat is? In fact, I would say bomb them, bomb them and then bomb them again. Yes, this is he's talking about the hooties, hootie and the blowfish. I don't know. It's who these you mustache jerk. The real question is, do you want to deal with the threat from Iran or do you want to pretend that it doesn't exist? The administration has gone out of its way to pretend that it doesn't exist, including its chief Iran negotiator, Rob Malley, having his security clearance suspended in April by the State Department's Diplomatic Security Bureau, the chief negotiator under security investigation. It's just

unbelievable. Somebody's going to drop a nuke here. I don't know who it is, but I don't want to watch it. Ah, yes. This is how we draw Iran into the conflict. It's crazy. The hooties, the hooties and the blowfish up there, they got drones, they got cruise missiles. I mean, there's got to be Iran, right? Tonight, for the first time, the U.S. has taken military action in this war to defend Israel. Oh, yeah with the hooties the u.s has carney a guided missile destroyer in the northern red sea shooting down three land attack cruise missiles and several drones they say were launched from yemen possibly towards israel by iran possibly forces this is just this is abc of course, Martha Raddatz. These people are warmongers.

They are paid off and completely under control by the military-industrial complex. And if the idea, by the way, that from Yemen, where they're having the time of their lives fighting against the Saudis, they're going to waste a missile and send it toward, for some reason, with our defenses right there, they're going to send it toward Israel just randomly.

It doesn't make any sense. We cannot say for certain what these missiles and drones were targeting, but they were launched from Yemen, heading north along the Red Sea, potentially towards targets in Israel. I get potentially, we're not sure. Potentially, maybe, we can't be sure. People believe and it's likely true. The U.S. is bolstering its firepower in the region, a second carrier strike group joining U.S. warships already in the Mediterranean and additional fighter aircraft also being sent, all meant as a deterrent. We aim to send a strong message intended to deter a wider conflict, to bolster regional stability, and of course to make it clear that we will protect and defend our national security interests. And tonight, real concern for u.s forces in the region with attacks against

u.s bases in iraq and syria in the past 24 hours and another today one drone shot down no injuries reported but a u.s contractor sheltering in place in iraq died of cardiac arrest some guy had a heart attack? Yeah. Contractor? Yep. Hey, buddy, if you don't like it in the Middle East, get out. Yeah. Well, I got most of my clips from Al Jazeera because they

seem to be trying to be objective. Okay. Well, you know what Ron DeSantis says? I wouldn't trust anything from al jazeera yeah well he i don't know where you can't get reasonable coverage from anybody but al jazeera and i hate to say that but let's start with uh the gaza convoy which has been a fiasco, report from Al Jazeera. This is war Gaza convoy report. A small convoy of 20 trucks carrying food and medicine have entered Gaza through the Rafa crossing from Egypt

and are unloading their desperately needed cargo. But rights groups say the aid won't even make a dent in terms of relief for the 2.3 million Palestinians, as Harry Fawcett reports. They've been standing ready for days, and at last the first lorries carrying desperately needed supplies were on the move from Egypt into Gaza. Just 20 of them, what aid agencies are calling a drop in the ocean, when a sustained, reliable supply is what Gaza's people require. We hope this is the beginning and that sufficient aid will arrive and there would be global pressure to stop the aggression on Gaza. Food, water and

medicine were all unloaded but no fuel, part of Israeli conditions barring anything it says could aid Hamas. And the border was closed again immediately. No way out for those with foreign passports who'd been told to gather there. Among them, the mother-in-law of Scotland's First Minister, Hamza Yousaf. People of Gaza want to live. They can't in the night even breathe. There's no air. They suffer. I watch the children play in the day and cry in the evening. My heart is broken. Oh, good. Well, at least Al Jazeera is learning how to use that trauma-based entertainment that you know what is what are all these weird people doing in gaza like that woman that irish woman who's the mother or daughter or sister of some irish you know diplomat i guess we've noticed this and if and they let you know they let the two american

hostages go you know you know do you have any any clips on that because that whole thing smells very fishy i only have a couple of comments and in the i have a i was looking i there was a clip i want to get i don't have it but there is uh that thing stinks you You're right. Yeah. And in fact, with these clips here, this two two more hostages tale is worth playing because they've decided they're going to release a couple more. And they just really say, we don't want them using this for propaganda. And so they so Al Jazeera brings on a complainer who's a Hamas guy going, yeah, yeah, these guys, they won't do anything. We try to help them and we're, you know, we're getting no, just play this. 2 a.m. in Gaza and the military wing of Hamas says Israel has refused to accept its offer to release two more captives. Gazan Brigade says it wanted to release the captives on humanitarian grounds and without conditions. The Israeli Prime Minister's office has responded saying that they will not address

quote, false Hamas propaganda and will continue to work to bring all captives and those missing back home. Earlier, my colleague Folly Batibo spoke to Hamas spokesman Khaled Al-Khadoumi. He says there were no clear reasons for Israel to reject their proposal. They were two captives with the Al-Qassam Brigade, and due to severe humanitarian position, we decided to hand them over to their families through the brothers in Qatar. And that's what we have informed them last night.

Wait a minute, were these hostages in Qatar? No, I don't think so. They're going to give them to Qatar. And this whole, this report just emphasizes what's wrong with the first, those two. Those first two, the girl and her mom, who were praised as supporters of BLM and part of the movement. I mean, this reads like a UFC script. The whole thing. Doesn't it?

Yeah, it does. It's really, really lame. I mean, you listen to this guy going on and on. I want to roll it back again. I want to hear exactly what he said. But wait, I want to mention, if you're going to release, just release him. You don't have to.

What has Israel got to do with it? Just let them go. A humanitarian position. We decided to hand them over to the... Who is this guy? Who's this guy talking? This is the Hamas spokesperson. Okay.

This is the Baghdad Bill or whatever he is. Baghdad Bob. I forgot about him. They were two captives with the Al Qassam Brigade. And due to severe humanitarian position, we decided to hand them over to their families through the brothers in Qatar. And that's what we have informed them last night and without anything in return. last night without anything in return. But unfortunately, the government of Israel, they refused to take them. And that is also proof of our ideas that this occupation, this Israeli government,

is not serious and is not ready to stop this bloodshedding continuous situation. Did the Israelis tell the Qataris who were negotiating these releases, did they tell them why they refused to take these two captives? We didn't receive anything on that. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. So our best friend in the region refuses to take hostages who are Americans? No, these weren't Americans. They're just a couple of randos. Oh, randos. Okay. It's just randos. Well, who cares about the randos? Well, I don't even believe any of this story. The whole thing seems fishy.

And Israel thinks it's bogus and so they just don't want to deal with it why don't they just give them to the qataris i mean there's other things you can do with them but okay let's play part two okay you say they were released you wanted to release them because of severe humanitarian conditions what conditions precisely were they injured were they there's nothing there's nothing I can share with friends over here more than what has been come with the statements of Abu Ubaidah that those two captives, they were in the custody of Al-Qassam Brigade and due to their position, to their humanitarian position, we decided to hand them over to refute the lies of the Israeli government

about our fighters and their high morals and high values, that they respect the prisoners and the captives, and they deal them as guests and they will live as our other people live in Gaza. But again, I mean, the Israeli government, they are not serious. Previously, we have announced that we are having four prisoners before this war, and the Netanyahu government refused to talk anything about the swab and the exchanging the prisoners. And today we're having hundreds of them. Still, we have offered to hand over those captives who are in severe humanitarian condition for a sole reason of humanitarian reasons that we wanted to return them to their families.

But the governments, they are not serious on that. They want to continue killing our children. They want to continue bombardment the houses, the safe families in their homes, and the bombardment of mosques, hospitals, churches. And they want to continue like that. And unfortunately, it looks that the american government is supporting their position and they if i can just interrupt you for a second just to get a bit more uh from from you on this you say uh hamas the al-qassam brigades were prepared to release uh those captives with

severe humanitarian conditions and al-qassam brigades have said they want to do this free of charge with nothing in exchange. This is weird. The guy won't explain what the extreme humanitarian conditions are. That's strange. By the way, this is kind of like Al Jazeera during this reporting. They actually have reporters in Israel all over the place and in Gaza all over the place. And they're giving us material that's kind of funny. Do they have flak jackets on with media?

No. This is what it says, two more, second round. And they brought somebody else in to talk more BS. And this continues this analysis or non-analysis or whatever you want to call it. I just found it kind of interesting. Mo, how is this playing out on the ground with the public in Israel? So, Emily, this is interesting because we saw something relatively new happening when compared

to what's been going on the past few weeks. Saturday evening, you had a protest, hundreds of people in Tel Aviv gathering in front of the Ministry of Defense. Many of them were relatives of those who were being held captive by Hamas inside of Gaza. And there was a level of anger being demonstrated to the government here that we've not yet really seen up until this point. Many of these relatives essentially saying that the Israeli government is not doing enough to ensure the release of these of these captives, that they would like to see the government do more, that they would like the government to implement a ceasefire until the captives are released. And in fact, they were also calling on the international community to step in and help more to ensure that these captives can be freed. Now, beyond that, we're also hearing more about public opinion.

What is this with the international community? I find that peculiar. This whole report, now this report, we don't have any of this from Western media, the protests in Tel Aviv. No, no. And then he brings in some polling that was done in there. Let me finish the clip. I want to hear the rest of the clip. I'm just, I had to stop it.

It's like, what is he talking about? And in fact, they were also calling on the international community to step in and help more to ensure that these captives can be freed. Now, beyond that, it sounds like a play. This is some kind of, you know, some play like, hey, you know, look, it's they're trying to do PR, but they're talking to the wrong media outfits. We're also hearing more about public opinion. When it comes to different aspects of the war right now in Israel. So we've heard from a polling institute called... We're polling the war now. And they released a survey that found, among other things, first, that around 57% of Israelis support a plan to exchange

families held by Hamas with Palestinian children held in Israeli jails. Survey also... Wait! The Israelis have children in jails? It seems so. If you want to stop that clip and play this crazy screed of stats that this American-Palestinian woman had on, again, off of Al Jazeera, and I think, let me see if I can find that.

It's, I've got too many clips. Crazy screed of stats? This woman is being grilled one way. She's going back and forth with this interview. And she just goes off on the interviewer on Al Jazeera, and she has a screed of just stashing. I got it here. I got it here. Okay, fine. Yeah, play this.

Israel, right now, let's not forget there are 5,500 Palestinians in Israeli jails, with 1,300 of whom in administrative detention, held without charges, without evidence, without trial. Since 1967, Israel has imprisoned over a million Palestinians. So, when we talk about numbers, when we want to talk about civilians being captured, when we talk about civilians being killed, okay, there's over a million Palestinians who have been in Israeli military prison since 1967, and 80,000 Palestinians killed since 1967. So, I mean, yes, we are opposed to civilians being used in any way and being killed. But let's keep things in perspective here. And let's look at the larger picture and who is really putting the people, innocent civilians

captive for decades, including, now we're seeing it in Gaza, but they've done this collective punishment against Palestinian people in the West Bank and Gaza for decades, including shutting off water and destroying water lines to Palestinian cities, including building an apartheid wall, including implementing ways, you know, cutting off cities from one another, including imprisoning children in Israeli military prisons without their parents or legal representation. So, I mean, context is extremely important. Let's not forget who the king of propaganda is in this situation. Okay. We appreciate your passion on this issue. Zaina Ashwari Hutchinson, a Palestinian American rights activist. Thanks for your time.

Thank you. Well, well now. So they have kids, I guess, but what does that mean, 17-year-olds, 16-year-olds? I don't know. I mean, she also could have just meant, you know, behind the wall in Gaza. You can say,

well, you know, lots of people say that. I can see them coming up with that. You want to finish this up? Yes, I do want to finish it. With Palestinian children held in Israeli jails. Survey also found that around 57% of Israelis support a plan to create humanitarian corridors for children in Gaza managed by the UN. And furthermore, it found that 54% of Israelis say compliance with international humanitarian law isn't necessary, including precautions to minimize harm to children when at war with Hamas. Now, if I can just unpack that last detail, this is quite remarkable because this is saying that there's a majority of Israelis, 54%,

according to this survey, that are saying that compliance with international humanitarian law is not necessary. Including when it pertains to minimizing harm to children when it applies to war with Hamas. I did get some feedback from one of our producers about the term unpack and its origin. And the thinking is that it comes from Peggy McIntosh. A 1989 essay about white privilege titled White Privilege, Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack. That could be the origin of this unpack.

That's a funny bit. Unpack, unpack. Well, I want to point out something in that guy's going on and on with his numbers. El Jazeera has been doing a bunch of programming on the bloodthirsty nation. The last little thing he had, if you can just play it a little bit at the end, he said 54, I just say what it is. 54% of the Israelis polled, don't give a shit about war crimes. But what is this polling?

Was that a call out? Did they have people on the street with clipboards? With clipboards? Internet poll? No, there was some company mentioned. You mentioned it at the very beginning. No, I know, but I understand there's a company. I don't know.

There are details of polling. People just say polling. It's sick. They're polling the war. will you say polling it's sick they're polling the war but the thing is is that el jazeera has been promoting the idea of israelis as bloodthirsty demons and i will well that's anti-semitic and i have to go into well it's el jazeera and i have to they did a special report i don't have any clips from it but it's fascinating they clipped a a bunch of what I would call Israeli hicks, people living out in the middle of nowhere someplace.

In the hills. It's the same kind of thing that we do in our media. We try to get some guy that talks like this, and he's got a missing tooth in front, and I'm sorry I'm talking so funny because I can't talk with my tooth mitten. No, no, no. This is the guy.

This is the guy. This is the guy. Oh! I said, what in the world is this? So you get these guys. That guy. So they have these. And the way they presented it was very good. And so far as propaganda is concerned, they have these literally beautiful Israeli girls

who are hicks. Oh. Wow. Out in the. Let's shoot Amish. I think the only good Arab's a dead Arab. I don't care if we shoot every Arab. If they come up to the house and we

shoot them, it's okay. She goes on and on like this. Then they bring out another beautiful girl, and she's just blood thirsty. And so Al Jazeera is kind of doing this kind of thing and i'm watching this going wow this is really good stuff but let's let's what kind of ghoul are you this is really good

deconstructing here i think it's fascinating yes so here's this two more round uh second round two and this is really reflective of the mood right now in Israel, because you have so much anger and shock still at what happened on October 7th when that Hamas attack occurred. And there is so much anger driving all of this. You have poll after poll in Israel in which people are saying predominantly that they want the Israeli government to go in and destroy Hamas. Emily? that they want the Israeli government to go in and destroy Hamas. Emily? You know, it's times like this when the media has just lost their marbles.

And all media around the world, they just want blood. They want explosions. They want strife. They want disagreement. It's money in the bank. They want, you know, it's money in the bank. And I think the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group can help people while making bank ourselves by resurrecting our game show. Win, lose, or drone. That's right, everybody.

It's time to play another round of win, lose, or drone. Who's going to get it this time? Will the hot Israeli lady kill some Palestinian or the other way around? Find out tonight on Win, Lose, or Drone. Woo! Just a thought.

Yeah. The problem with our game show is all it has is the opening jingle. We don't have a game show. We do have a real game show. We have a stinger. Win, lose, or drone. That's all we have. We don't have a format or a station to broadcast on.

But the idea is mint. It is. There was another guy that came on, a guy named Daniel Levy. And I have a clip from him he uh oh yes i played this daniel levy guy he was the wasn't he former negotiator or ambassador yeah he's one of these guys that's in and around in and around former yes former israeli peace negotiator that's yeah and he was uh on with another one of these interview shows on al jazeera called bottom line and he came on and he was on forever yak yak yak yak in a way

and he did uh and he was saying this is going to be bad news for he this person is bad news for netanyahu bad news for this and bad news for that but he came out with a little like again i'll use the word screed uh about this being bad news for the united states because biden is a fuck up and this whole situation is not good america looks like an outlier not like a model to be emulated but like a country that is fundamentally getting its priorities wrong and doesn't care when there is a boomerang effect across much of the rest of the world. We are seeing an America that looks like a warmongering nation. And I worry for that.

I worry for that reputation. What do you mean? We didn't have that reputation already? Isn't that our reputation? I thought that was always our reputation. We're a warmongering nation. I mean, that's what most people in the rest of the world look at us as. That's why we got to keep Trump out.

Because he'll stop all the wars. That's no good. Speaking of that, we got a note from one of our Jewish producers. And I say this because I don't want to give her name away because a little personal note but you know she's had some issues in temple with vaccine stuff back in the day and um so she's written us quite openly and this is just a light-hearted note uh she says i hope you're well i want to share a story that happened this week when the israel conflicts began i tuned into Ben Shapiro.

Of course, all the Jews immediately go to Ben Shapiro, American Jews. I don't understand why. I figured he would have boots on the ground reports. I'm not a regular listener of his anymore, but this warranted some attention. In the middle of one of his reports, he began talking about President Trump. Now, Shapiro's never been a Trump supporter, but he admits he will vote for him if he's a nominee in the next election. But he began to criticize Trump for Trump's alleged castigation of Netanyahu when the attacks began. Shapiro was furious about how Trump could use the events to boost his own ego and agenda. I just

listened, didn't think much of it until I heard John's deconstruction of Brooks and Dunn on episode 1599. Shapiro had at the end of the deconstruction my husband turned to me and said i think i'm ready to start listening to your no agenda guys now another marriage save another marriage yes yes yes so i didn't know that shapiro used that same misguided clip, the chopped up clip. That's bad. That's bad. That's really bad. My last Al Jazeera thing I want to play is that they were going on and on about, there was this long kind of a presentation,

and they had this little bit at the end where where Biden is out in the lawn or someplace and someone says what are you going to do what's going on blah blah blah and Biden says I'm talking to Israel just talk to him I just talked to Israel well they had it on the boots boots on the ground guy at Al Jazeera who even though he didn't call Biden out in person on the ground guy at Al Jazeera, who, even though he didn't call Biden out in person on the show, he calls Biden out as a liar for saying he's talking to Israel when he's not. And I just thought it was so funny to listen to this guy go on and on with all his details about how this is bullshit. And this is Biden called out for BS. Let's go to Sheha Ratanzi, who's in

Washington, D.C. for us. Shehab, quite a brief statement. What should we make of it? I think perhaps that he's learned the lesson from Friday night when he was asked the question as to whether Israel should pause any ground invasion in order to allow more captives to be released. And he said yes. And I think it was almost within the hour that the White House put out an urgent statement saying, oh, no, no, President Biden didn't hear the question. He just thought the journalists had asked whether he hoped that more hostages should be released. So now, this time, at least he didn't make the same mistake. He simply said he was talking to Israel. However, we've looked at the pool reports and the readouts from Saturday, and he hasn't talked to the Israelis,

according to those on Saturday. He did talk to Prime Minister Netanyahu on Friday, where the issue of the captives was raised. No conversations with Israelis, as far as we can tell yet, as far as from any official announcements from the White House on Saturday. He did talk to his national security team about the latest on the Gaza war. Incidentally, we did just also hear that Tony Blinken, the U.S. Secretary of State, talked to the Qatari Prime Minister and the foreign minister, thanking them for their mediation efforts with the release of the two U.S. captives, but also discussing further efforts to secure the release of all the other captives. Okay, lots of moving parts. Thanks for bringing us up to speed. Shehab Rutanze

in Washington, D.C. So are we... Go ahead. I just think this is a little bit, you know, a little kind of in the weeds a bit, but at the same time, at least he called Biden out for his BS. Our media doesn't...

Okay, whatever you say. There's gambling going on. Yes, our media... Okay, there's gambling going on. Yes, our media is... Okay, there's gambling going on. Our media is, you know, it's compromised. I don't even understand. Why people even watch it is because of the addiction we talked about at the top of the show.

People need outrage. They need, I need to be triggered. I need to... You know, actually, this was an interesting report. I hate to say it, but it was MSNBC. And they have their own reasons behind it, which I think I can deconstruct. It comes into the loneliness factor

that we were talking about the other day. All of a sudden, loneliness is on the menu. Loneliness, loneliness. What's going on with the loneliness? This is about, well, this is a doctor and she's got a book. We'll set her up here, MSNBC. Now, for the last two weeks or so, painful and shocking images of war have been hard to avoid. Images showing pain, destruction, and horror.

On television, you can flip the channel or turn it off altogether. But on this, on your phone, the endless scrolling can really have an impact on your mind and your psychology. If you are like me, you have felt it. Let's bring in Dr. Sue Verma. She is a board-certified psychiatrist, and she's author of the forthcoming Practical Optimism, the Art, Science, and Practice of exceptional well-being yeah um so this is for you parents i know your parents out there and you know your kids see you your kids are not stupid they see you scrolling you give them scrollers they're probably the kids are probably more proficient at looking at your browser history than you are dr verman these are dark times i'm wondering what you think the the biggest impact is of seeing these images over and over again on all our minds.

Yes. So, you know, repeated exposure to graphic, stressful, violent images can produce anxiety, depression, and a feeling of helplessness, not to mention anger, frustration, and just feeling like we're very conflicted and passive as a result. And I feel like when I talk to my patients, the helplessness feels so profound. And for different people, helplessness can manifest in different ways. Some people may tend to turn to substances. Some people are doom-scrolling, so they continue to look for violent images. Some people turn to cyberbullying because they feel so angry

and they need to lash out on somebody and they don't know where to take it out. So it's it's these are very challenging times, indeed, for a lot of people, even if we're so far away. Yes, I think this is exactly the behavior I see exhibited on no agenda social that people just get mad at anything. I need to get mad. I need to get mad because I'm mad about something. I can't. What is going on? There's something I just feel. I feel anxious. I'm mad. I'm mad. I'm mad. something i can't what is going on there's something i just feel i feel anxious i'm mad i'm mad i'm mad how does this work for children you know it is also just so casual at the moment i was speaking earlier with a technology company that tracks the behavior of young people uh online and one they all do that dude they were showing me how quickly a child can go from one innocent youtube search for something entertaining to maybe something

educational about Israel to something absolutely unwatchable within a span of a few minutes and then go back to business as usual. I'm wondering what you think the impact is of this sort of casual exposure, especially on the developing brain. Oh, it gets very fine citizens, upstanding members of society. Yeah. So, you know, the casual exposure can be dangerous because if a young child doesn't have the context around it and they don't necessarily even have the language to be able to express what they're going through. And at the same time, they're watching these images and they're thinking that this could be happening to me. Like they don't have the context of, OK, this is not exactly in my neighborhood, but it feels so real. And this sort of 24 hour, 24 seven exposure, it's not like we have to go out to get it. It's coming to us, as you said. And the other thing is that casual exposure also causes numbness and desensitization. form of what we call cyber overload or digital overload when the brain is hit with so much information even if the information isn't violent but just constant news coming to us our brain wants to shut down and it shuts down by saying you know what i don't really care there's nothing i

can do about it and and that's the last thing that we want we want to be able to have some sort of a healthy balance between what i say my patients often say do I want to be happy or do I want to be informed? Because it seems like we can't be happy and informed at the same time, unfortunately. I mean, this is obviously taking place on MSNBC, who themselves are huge violators of what you're showing on television. I mean, it was only a few years ago when Janet Jackson's nipple was the most shocking thing we saw. I mean, and now, thanks, everybody. Thanks for the Telegram videos. I mean, it is not good.

It is, you can see. You're the one, wait a minute. You're the one who wants to put on television executions okay hold on a second we'll get to my personal this is that's a different story that's a television format and and we don't even have a jingle for it like win lose or drone um i'm saying that with social media and it doesn't matter if it's X or Facebook or Mastodon or Telegram. Telegram, I think, is actually the worst. Telegram is really, really, really toxic.

I think TikTok's pretty bad. No, Telegram is, I mean, it's all bad. And look, we're professionals. We're're older we've grown up with this we we understand i think for some reason we're able to look at it with some distance it doesn't affect me but i see i see my brothers and sisters of no agenda nation affected and they used to not be so affected by this stuff. And I see your sisters, literally. My sisters, yes. Yeah, all right. You have me confused with Andrew Horowitz.

Okay, last clip. I feel like this is important in the contrast also between, you know, happiness and informed when it comes to it really being important to inform people with the most jarring images, right? I mean, back when we first saw images of war during Vietnam, for instance, right? It shaped our perception of that conflict. It was utterly shocking to see those images. But now, with social media and with smartphones, it seems like something has changed. And I wonder what you think. You know, obviously there's this individual effect, but what is the sort of social effect, do you think, of becoming desensitized as it seems we're being? Lack of empathy is what's happening is that when we feel so passive,

helpless, angry about things that, you know, whether they're close to home or far from home, we end up becoming more passive, right? And so sometimes we think that like putting comments online, why they are very helpful and can be educating some people. A lot of the comments, unfortunately, are negative or angry and hostile and create more and more divide. So there is a very delicate balance. And I feel like empathy is so important and being able to talk to people from very different points of views. I'm seeing so much clash and divide between within families, within friend circles. And it's a very hard time right now to be able to get yourself informed because you're only hearing things

from a certain perspective. So what you heard there was an anti-Trump screed. Of course there is. Anti-empathy is a buzzword, a code word for Trump. So here's what I'd like to suggest for NOAA Genonation. I call for a JCD Monday. What does that mean? like jcd put your phone in a drawer in a drawer leave it there and leave it there for all of monday and i command everyone to go to a no agenda meetup you can talk about whatever you want but you need to be in social

contact with real people i'm saying we need to love each other. If only in our own community, this, I can see we're breaking people, our people. I don't care about anybody else. I don't care about anyone else's listeners. We have producers and they're breaking. Be like JCD. Be like, it's like, be like my Campaign, be like John, be like JCD, put your phone in the drawer on Monday and go to a meetup. Find a meetup this week or next weekend. It's good for you. So I went to the meetup. Yes, tell us, how was it?

It was great. We had about 35 people. The guy who organized it lives up in Roanoke Park. He's a new organizer. He wants to do these meetups more often. He's a nice guy. The group was great. Good looking group. Did you?

There was a Scott Adams lookalike. There was a socialist kid who came up and says, hey, I'm a socialist. Why are you guys ragging on socialists? I agree with most of what you say, but you hate socialists. And what did you say? I tried to explain, but he didn't listen.

But he donated, so that's good. But there you go. But this is the point. When a socialist donates, you know you got something going on right. Yeah, but this is good. So I'm glad that he came. Good on him. I am too.

He's a nice guy. Because he felt safe. That's why. He felt but this is good. I'm glad that he came. Good on him. I am too. He's a nice guy. Because he felt safe, that's why. He felt safe in that environment. This is very good. Oh yeah, it was a good... The bar is nice. It's been redone since I was there last, I don't know how many years ago. It's nice now. It's a pretty cool place. What was everybody drinking? What were you drinking?

Beer. Mostly beer. It was a beer bar deal. They had a bunch of beer on tap, including really good pilsners. And any hotties? Yeah. There's always a hottie, or two, or three. Any spooks?

Maybe. It's not a complete meet-up until you've spotted the feds. Well, there may be. I mean, it's possible that one guy was, because he had everything going on you know the kind of sketchy background the kind of the look uh it's possible it was a spook i got a breaking news breaking news breaking news from our uh our lawyer who has been following the missouri versus biden Oh, yes. And there is. And he's been I love this guy. He's pro bono, of course. He's a producer and he's just sending

me updates. He goes through all the documentation, all the briefs that are being filed. It's reams of paperwork. He loves doing it. And I want to read his report uh justice alito referred the government's motion for a stay to the full court now just to remind you this is the uh state of missouri suing the biden administration i think it's the biden administration not just biden personally um for threatening social media companies to take down content um threatening them with, hey, you know, we got Section 230, you're killing people with this, you know, with your misinformation. And as we've learned that the courts are even saying this is the most egregious violation of the First Amendment rights

ever in American history. And the media really doesn't report on it much because why would they? They're in Biden's pocket and they hate social media companies uh so alito has referred the government's motion to stay of the full court this is not unheard of but definitely not the norm to make things even more unusual the supreme court treated the motion for stay as a cert petition this cuts out an entire step from the supreme court review process so the bottom, Supreme Court has accepted the case for review. Remember now, this went from the Missouri court, which I don't remember what circuit that is.

It went to the Supreme Court. Instead of kicking it back, now it goes to the Supreme Court for review. It will determine whether the district court, and by extension the Fifth Circuit, there you go, got it right in condemning the feds laundering of censorship the media has no choice now but to report on this hopefully you are well equipped to get a jump on things okay well we'll see yes uh and he says and he attached for my reading pleasure, the Supreme Court's order, which includes a dissent from Justices Alito, Thomas and Gorsuch, who wanted to deny the stay altogether. It's a very short five pages. Take a look and see the points. In a nutshell, Alito, Thomas and Gorsuch are worried what will happen in the next election. And that's really what this is about, is what can be done from the White House during the next election.

Can they, you know, hey, Trump's a criminal. Take it off or something like that. Those are conservative judges. I know. I'm not sure exactly what. I want a clarification on this. OK, well, point of order. Point of order.

on this okay well point of order point of order so i got some china news china clips kind of kind of china kind of china we haven't been talking about much but i think we should yeah they're not in play right now but okay yeah i mean we haven't ramped up that's the time to start to look at it okay good point good point We haven't ramped up Taiwan. That's the time to start to look at it. Okay, good point, good point. Let's start with, well, I got two series of clips. One is on illegal bio lab in California.

This story's been around for a while. You know about it? Of course, of course. This happened months ago, but now it's getting some attention. I think the guys disappeared too. An arrest over the illegal Chinese biolab in California. It contained bacterial viruses such as SARS, COVID and HIV. Now authorities say they've arrested a man. NTD's David Lam speaks with an Epoch Times reporter who spent several weeks uncovering the web of connections tied to the Readly California lab.

Steve Espes with the E the Epic Times. Thank you for joining me today. What's the significance of this arrest? We realized that the people behind this company, they have a very complicated and complex background and very troubling background. They have been involved with several companies in at least 10 countries that we have looked at, and they've all been in trouble with the law. The mastermind of this operation is someone by the name of Jesse Ju. He's the one who controls all of these companies. So Jesse Ju, this is a 62-year-old man that is a Chinese citizen

and formerly lived in Clovis. So what are some of the charges that he's facing? He's actually a Canadian citizen as well. So the charges for which he was arrested yesterday are manufacturing and distributing unbranded medical devices that are not registered with the FDA, and also for making false statements to the FDA, including his name. He uses a fake identity. These are just still charges. If convicted, he could be in jail for up to eight years. How did this illegal operation was running for so long before it came into the public's eye or the code enforcement officer?

Well, see what they do is they move from city to city. They change company names. And as we realized yesterday, they even change identity names of the people. So Universal Meditech, which was the main company that was involved with the Biolab, has been going through Fresno, Tulare, Readley, back to Fresno, back to Tulare, back to Readley. Now, it is my understanding that the illegal medical devices were, in fact, tests like COVID tests. Yeah, they never mentioned the specifics here. They just keep going on. What I thought was interesting about this is the description of the guy changing names and locations. About 10 years ago, we had a Chinese producer, maybe 10 years ago we had a chinese producer maybe 12 years ago we had a chinese

producer who i corresponded with quite a bit and he told me that this is the way you do business in china if you're if you're a criminal and these criminal groups would get together and they create companies that these are the guys who produce uh uh aircraft parts it funny. This is how the Bidens operate, too. Yeah. It's very funny. You produce illegal aircraft parts with phony certificates and you do business as long as you can. And as soon as they get wind of

what you're up to, you close shop, change your name, move to a different city and start doing the same thing. And you do this over and over and over again. And you could do it, according to him this guy he says you could do this forever in china as long as because it's just it's just the way it is as long as it's best prices goes on here now oh no doubt we we have no moral authority over over any other country So let's listen to part two of this character. All of these people controlling these companies

are also very closely related to companies in China that are related also to this Jesse Ju person. But all of this was not regulated, was not approved by the FDA. Going back to the background of the Canadian companies, JCG and his companies have been sued by the Canadian entities. They've been sued several times, up to $330 million for damages done to those companies. Now, he didn't pay a penny of that. He found ways around it and legal loopholes steve espos with

the epic times thank you so much for joining me thank you for having me yeah well which brings us to the second series of clips which is this is not reported in this country as far as i can tell i don't know anything about this i'd heard it on new tang. This is the graphite story. Have you known about the graphite story? This is not graphene, but graphite. Graphite. What is graphite? Graphite is a form of carbon, one of the many forms of carbon. Diamond's one of them.

Okay. And it's used a lot in, it turns out, who knew? Batteries? In the semiconductor business. And in batteries in particular. Okay, no wonder it's a China story. China is planning to restrict exports of a crucial mineral used to make EV batteries. Officials announced today that permits will be required for certain graphite products.

We spoke to NTD business host Don Ma for more. Don Ma, thank you so much for joining us. Yeah, thanks for having me today. Before we get to the China part, give us a little bit of the background here. Sure. First of all, China is the world's top producer of graphite. And according to the U.S. Geological Survey, China accounts for two-thirds of the global supply. China also refines more than 90% of the world's graphite into material used virtually in all EV batteries. So, you know, China is an important player here in this front.

And the reason why graphite is important is because graphite is the largest EV battery component by weight and almost double the amount of lithium in an EV battery. But besides EVs, graphite is also commonly used in the semiconductor, aerospace, chemical, and steel industries. And top buyers of graphite are Japan, the US, and a couple of other countries. What doesn't China have that we need? China has outmaneuvered us in everything. We just sit around flat-footed. Our scions of industry will make $20, $30, $40 million a year. CEOs don't do crap about it because they're incompetent. And here we go

again. And this is all because we cut because Biden cut the supply of AI chips, mostly from NVIDIA to China says, nah, nah, you can't, you're gonna, if you get these chips, it's not going to be good for us. So you can't have the chips. And so China just says, okay, you can't have the graphite. That's part two. And now why is China limiting exports of this crucial mineral? So according to the official statement, it's for national security reasons. China's commerce ministry said the move was to ensure stability of the global supply chain and industrial chain and to better safeguard national security and interests. It added that it was not targeting any specific country. But that's the official reason. But some analysts are questioning

whether, you know, this is a tit-for-tat measure against the U.S. because Washington on Tuesday said it plans to halt shipments of more advanced artificial intelligence chips to China. And three days later, here we are, Beijing officials announcing these graphite curbs. So the timing may be curious to some. And the Dutch press, I was just reading yesterday, they're complaining about how ASML, who do the lithography for chips, the Dutch government now has no say over what goes to china it's all washington

yeah they've completely capitulated and but yeah they did yeah so that's all part of this tit for tat so what does this mean ultimately no one gets chips and you keep your laptop i mean it's gonna do well luckily the machines are built to last i think there's a third i think there's machines are built to last. I think there's a third clip. Yeah, there is. And on that last part, what will be the impact of these curbs? Right. So under these new restrictions, which will take effect in December,

China is going to require exporters to apply for permits to ship certain types of graphite. And the curbs are actually similar to those placed on chip-making metals, gallium and germanium, from a few months ago. And from what we've seen with that, those restrictions, they have effectively choked off exports of those metals and pushed up prices outside of the country. So that's a reference. But what analysts are also saying is that the impact could be that the average price of graphite will continue to rise in the future. But this control is not a complete ban.

And there has been no significant impact on any industry during the previous temporary controls. And this also raises the question, though, of how dependent on China does the U.S. want to be in the context of the electrification of vehicles? It potentially highlights the need for the West to perhaps have independent supply chains and self-sufficiency in both raw materials and downstream components. Forget the chips for a minute. The chubs. Forget the chubs. Won't this tank,

this should tank the already stupid EV market. Can we just already, can we just say that this is dumb, that this was a bad idea and everybody who bought into the electric vehicle is going to get screwed. Your battery is a third the cost of the vehicle. No one wants to buy your car

secondhand. You might as well lease it. So you're leasing the battery. I mean, isn't this all just a dumb idea? Won't we just go back to explosive engines, combustion engines? Well, I hope so. But, you know, they've promoted this very well. And you got, you you know superstar promoters like elon musk doesn't help things doesn't help uh you know what should be i mean i know i see logic i see nothing but evs on the lots everywhere hundreds of evs unsold people don't want them anymore well actually even in china there's these photos that these people have taken with drones of these huge piles of unsold EVs that are backing up from these EV companies. Because China's making two or three companies. And these batteries, they keep exploding everywhere.

It's annoying. You can't put them in your garage. They're going to blow up the garage. And how else are you going to charge it? You got to put a wire out to the car out into sitting in the driveway does that make sense when kids will come by you know and you know throw it in a bucket or something i mean you just know wait till we haven't seen the vandalism yet uh before we take a break a follow-up on a clip that we played in march from uh two of my favorite radio guys uh weenie

in the butt from russia i forget their actual name volvon yeah those guys are the best volvon and lexus volvon lexus in the morning and they hoax fifi lagarde the director of the euro european central bank into um admitting that a digital euro a central bank digital currency was on the way a reminder i have a question about oh and they pretended to be zelensky and she was all like zelensky and she was primping her hair before the call like oh i can't i'm gonna be talking to zelensky this is when he was still hot news. I'm also a good user of electronic money. So my question, you're introducing the electronic euro, as I know. So how can switching to an electronic currency help?

Well, two things. Number one, it will be decided in October. So we are preparing the ground. We want to be ready. We want to be trained, but it will not be decided until October 23. have to move ahead is a situation like the one we are in now. We are dependent on the supply of gas by a very unfriendly country. I don't want Europe to be dependent on an unfriendly country's currency. For instance, I don't know, you know know the chinese currency the russian currency the whatever or dependent on a friendly currency but which is activated by a private corporate entity like you know facebook or like uh google or anybody like i'm user'm a user of Bitcoin too. Okay. Then he goes in all that.

So she said, October 23rd, we're laying the groundwork. And then she went into, so like, oh, you know, it'll be limited. People can't, we won't track you unless you spend over 300 euros. Then all of a sudden

the machines wake up and we'll track you. And don't worry, we won't sell your information. What I like about Fifi is she doesn't mess around. They made the decision five days early on October 18th. The digital euro is on the move. Yesterday the governing council of the ECB approved the opening of the preparation phase. It will be a journey, and we will

walk the journey together with the legislator. All European institutions will be involved to make sure that Europe is equipped with the currency of the future. Cash is here to stay.

You will have all options. Cash and digital cash. And digital cash. So what does it mean for you? For consumers, it would be free and easy to use everywhere in the euro area. All of that, of course, is subject to the legislative process. Cash or digital, the choice will be yours. You, Euro, your choice.

Yeah, you, Euro, your choice. But we want to make sure you choose the digital option. And we are already going out and doing some weak-ass advertising. Imagine a digital single payment solution that could be used for any kind of payment throughout the euro area. Guess what? It could become a reality. A digital euro. Easy, safe, fast, reliable. Digital money from the European Central Bank at your fingertips whenever you need it. But how would it work? How would it work? Say you've gone for a meal with a friend and you want to split the bill. Simple. Open the digital euro wallet on your smartphone. Check your balance.

Enter the amount to pay your friend. Confirm your transfer. Your friend will receive the money instantly, free of charge. It doesn't matter which country you're in or who your payment provider is. Payments are still made instantly, even offline. It's also easy to use the digital euro at your favorite local shops. Unlock your device, place it on the terminal, authenticate, make the payment, online or offline. If you want, you can also use a physical card. What about e-commerce? The digital euro is also available when you're buying something online.

Be it digital or physical, a euro will always be a euro and have the same value irrespective of format. Let's embrace the digital era. Yes. With the digital Euro. That's right. And every digital Euro comes with a digital ID. Let me get this straight here. So I'm at a restaurant.

Now, in the olden days, I want to split the bill with somebody. We'd throw our cards down, both of us. Yeah. And the restaurant takes care of it. They'd give us a couple separate bills. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. That's so simple. Stop, stop, stop.

It couldn't be easier. That's not true. You always made me pay with a company card. Generally speaking. He won't admit it. You always made me pay. Yeah, because you had the Mevio company card. Generally speaking, you won't admit it. You always made me pay. Yeah. Cause you had the, you had the Mevio company card.

That was dynamite. So why, who split? And what's the point? We're both at Mevio. Good times. Good times. Those days are over. So, but the point is you normally go out with somebody who wants to split, you throw the

cards down. It's all take. Now, instead I've got to have a phone on me. I got to open the phone. I got to scroll through my apps and get this app up and I got to find it. And then I got to log in and then I got to click on something. I got to find the other guy's name and I got to send him some money. And then he pays the bill.

This is like ridiculously complicated compared to throwing the card down and letting the restaurant take care of the complexity. This will never work because you left your phone in the drawer. And that's how you get out of paying the bill. It's a bonus for you. Well, for me, yeah. I'm not arguing about that part. But of course, the part that we're...

It's not going to work. Well, I like that they are promoting it, that it'll do offline. How does that work? How does it do offline payments? Does it connect to the internet later? It has to, obviously. That seems kind of odd. No, the whole thing.

It has to have something in the card. It has to be a chip, card chip, a smart card that has information in the chip that kind of alludes to the fact that you have a bunch of money in your account well the two things to look out for are one the digital id that will come with this that's just a given and two the possibility the european central bank since it is a bank digital money from the central bank it is classified as a cbdc and they will be able to inflate or deflate the money supply at will they could take your money away yeah they could cut you off it's a beautiful thing yay europe you're good to go you're it's your euro your choice

and with that i'd like to thank you very much for your courage in the morning to you the man who put the c in b like jcd please say hello to my friend on the other end the one and only mr john in the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Hello there, trolls. Yeah, stop being all tricky. I'm going to count you. Let me see what's going on with you. How are we doing? We got 2,077 on the troll count. 2-0-7-7. Wow. I'm noting these now.

And we're 2-23 into it. Yeah, that's low. Everything with you is just low. No, that's low. It's very low. Our average on Sunday is 24. Low T. We got low T.

Low trolls. Low T. Well, anyway, we love our trolls because they're here. This is the only place where it's healthy for you to binge and to get all your triggering immediately. Just do it. Do it only for three hours twice a week.

That's what we recommend. And just stay off of everything else. Put your phone in the drawer. Be like JCD. You can join the trolls at the troll room, trollroom.io, or use a modern podcast app. You'll want one eventually. You can trust me on that. Do you know that Jon Stewart got cancelled by Apple? His podcast? No, he quit. Okay. There were creative differences over China and AI. Did we talk about this on the last show?

No. No, we didn't talk about it. Maybe you talked about it on DH Unplugged? I don't think so. I haven't heard DH Unplugged this week. Anyway. Yeah, you got cancelled. He's out. Yeah, get heard DH unplugged this week. Anyway. Yeah, you got to cancel. He's out. Yeah, get a modern podcast app, podcastapps.com.

Podverse now does Android Auto, and I think they're going to do CarPlay or something like that. So these things are getting pretty good, getting pretty modern, doing things well. Oh, no, I just came up at dinner. That's what it was because another guy who quit, this guy, the team left there's a new startup that's right that's headed creatively by john lassiter out of disney it was a guy was who was canceled from disney for being too much of a hugger in california in

southern california oh my god oh. He's hugging these women constantly. So he had to go. And he did a startup with these guys. Apple hired him on. And they all walked off in a huff and went to Netflix for more money. So Apple's can't keep it together. They're going to either have to buy Disney. I mean, the creativity aspect.

Can they even make their they um can they even make their chips can they even make chips without their graphite well they're not making the chips they're designing the chips oh okay so to the foundries to get the graphite i think apple's heyday may be over what do you think well the thing is a couple of things since we're talking about it. One, JC has the latest version 3, the newest of the new folding Samsung phones, the flip phone. Yeah. It's a killer. What is the benefit of a folding phone? Oh, it's just smaller when you fold it up.

It hangs up when you fold it down. You get to slam it down. It works like a champ. It's got a terrific screen. It's just a marvelous product, I would say that. The second thing, and this is taking share away from Apple, the second thing is the Huawei phone in China is killing Apple. They're getting beat up badly on their phone.

And then they're not. In fact, we talked about this at the dinner table when we talked about Jon Stewart, which was why didn't Apple, and if Steve Jobs was running the place still, that folding phone that Samsung has would have been an Apple phone. Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, I like the idea. They still haven't got a touch screen laptop for god's sake i i like the idea of rage quitting your phone like the old flip phone days like screw you click you slap it closed i kind of like that idea that's you can do that with this phone yeah i'm still using my light phone mainly yeah that's fine i'm trying to i'm trying to use any phone so i'm just telling you what i'm observing from other, you know, what's going on. I like this Samsung folding phone. I don't have one.

I don't intend to get one. I'm probably too expensive. Oh, man. And Twit is really missing out on you. They need you. These are times because they're going to be all goo-goo-ga-ga over that thing. And they need you to go, I don't want that phone, and to change the language to Korean. Russian is even better.

My favorite trick. My favorite John C. DeVore. It's a great trick. And for people who don't know the trick, I'll tell you because anyone can do this to anybody. Ask to borrow someone's phone. Quickly go to the settings. Go to the languages and turn the language to Chinese. And then give them the phone back. And back to the home screen back and back to the home screen and back to the home screen.

And then you're good to go. And then you're friends for life. You did that to me once. And I was, I was a bit disturbed by it. Cause I, I don't remember what phone that was, but I remember you doing this.

And I was like, yeah, it's just a good gag. It's funny. Yeah. It made you very popular with the kids it makes you know unless you know how to get back to the settings and sometimes they have the icons will help you and but if but with some phones especially earlier like 10 years ago these phones

were such that you didn't have you couldn't figure out how to get the language back. And you had to go basically to your computer, go online, and look it up. And it was very annoying. I'm surprised I didn't get punched. Have you never been punched for just being you? No. Amazing. Amazing. It's my attitude.

Has no one ever just come up and sucker punch you just for being you? No, you'd think. Yeah, you would. Yeah, I don't want to put it in anyone's mind. I'm on my guard for sucker punches. We, so tomorrow you can follow us, but there will be nothing happening on No Agenda Social because everyone will be doing it, taking a JCD, be like JCD day,

put your phone in the drawer tomorrow. But on Tuesday, you can follow John C. Dvorak at no agenda, social.com, Adam at no agenda, social.com. And,

uh, yes. And then not interact with us. I'm, I'm trying, I'm going to try and I interacted with two people. I blocked both of them. I saw it.

John's like, I'm always on no agenda social. I see you on no agenda social. What are you talking about, block? I didn't even know why you were mad. They were going after you and the show, these two different people. And they're going right on. And one of them, who I thought was a friend of the show and

some female and she's, I can't remember who she's, because I blocked her. This is the one who said I just stopped donating. That's my favorite. Yes, that one. She says, well, I still listen to the show, but I stopped donating. And she was very

arrogant about it because this other guy was going on the show stinks and i said what are you even on no agenda social for to tell us that the show stinks so i blocked that guy and i blocked her i think is that she said i just get back at him by uh by not donating to the show and i said i used the john c dvorak i said noted and i and i thought that would be the end of it and then she got really mad donating to the show. And I said, I used the John C. Dvorak. I said, noted. And I thought that would be the end of it. And then she got really mad. I'm like, I gave all my money to you. I'm like, oh, brother.

She already said she stopped doing that. She's overboard for all practical purposes. You should have blocked her. Not blocked. I only blocked that one guy because he just filled up my timeline. It's just annoying. It doesn't matter.

I'm just lurking now. Rub me the wrong way, you get blocked. Value for value is the proposition. If you find no value, then don't support the show. If you do find value, then support the show. Yeah, but quit grousing if you don't support, you know. Just don't support the show. don't have to quit grousing if you don't support you know just don't support the show yeah is that said it grousing and trying to get other people not to support the show that's what i don't like that's what i blocked her for she was going on she was

overtly trying to keep donations away from the show and that stopped her you think you by you blocking hers no they stopped me having to listen to her. Even tomorrow, don't even open up your browser. And she won't get to see any of the fabulous memes that I post. Oh, God. You have not posted any memes. I haven't seen any memes from you. Yeah, I post

them constantly. There's only one guy I like who posts, and it's weird, but I like the guy, Nobareet i think it is he posts classic uh muscle cars i like that i like those that's not like food memes he does a lot of them i get newsletter material from him well good for you yeah um so throughout the, people have supported the show in many ways. Time and talent is a big one. You can organize a meetup and then you're really, I mean, you're doing it for no agenda nation no matter what. But when you organize a meetup, you're doing it for your brothers and sisters.

You really need to, if you can, organize a meetup. That's a great way to help. There's so many different ways you can help. Getting other people to listen. Not helping is telling people not to donate that's not time or that's not a helpful value for value no it's negative it's negative value is nv for v now artwork we love because it first of all it's an act of love because artists are putting their creativity out there, ready to be criticized, which is our way of loving you back. It is true. Normally you do stuff on spec, you don't hear anything from anybody. They just ignore you. Don't even get a phone call back.

And we love having a new piece of art for every single episode. It's great. It gets people's attention. It looks good when you post it. It looks great in the podcast apps. And we do have, you know, rules and stuff that we need to adhere to. Like, yes, you'll be able to read it and we like stuff that pops, but we break those from time to time. And of course, whenever there's a special episode, like the last one, episode 1600, that's when you can be pretty sure that we're going to go for something that boasts about the fact that it's 1600 episodes and sir suge aka faux diddly he did that and then some and brought us the infinity uh artwork of 16 years 1600 episodes you liked it right off the bat you went straight for it and said i like this Yeah, I like it because I like the use of infinite perspective. Infinite perspective.

Or the vanishing point, I'm sorry, is what I meant. Vanishing point, I think he used it well. And we were talking about, you know, the vanishing point has something to do with some of the issues in the show. It was great. We looked at a couple other pieces. I did keep coming back to parker paulie's uh tramp stamp but i don't know why i thought it was well executed uh the sweet 16 and what else

by the way you can follow us on no agenda art generator.com you can also upload anyone can participate in this you're more than welcome uh also a lot of these show up in our chapters in those modern podcast apps. I liked something that I liked. I can't remember what it was. You didn't really like much. No, I did. I did. I can't remember.

I'm looking at it. It was a lot of art, but you were complaining about certain. I don't remember what I was complaining about. Well, we first of all decided we were going to use 1600 somehow. Yes, I know what it was. It was Capitalist Agenda, whose art was really... If you blow it up,

it's not at the bottom of the page. The 1600 is kind of peeling off this cube. It's flowing over it. Oh, you really like that piece. Yeah, that's a piece I'd like to have on my wall. I mean, I'd frame that. That was beautiful. You like the dimensionality of it.

Yeah, thank you. But somehow it doesn't work. I'm not sure why. It's something that just doesn't work in a small format, I guess. He did two of them. Yeah, it was something. It has its moment. It has its moment. It has its moment.

However, we do want to thank Foe Diddley for bringing us the artwork for episode number 1600. And the title of that one was Unpack It. We just heard one theory where that came from. We appreciate that very much. And thank you to all the artists for what you do. It is highly appreciated. Oh, there's Phoebe. Phoebe sees something or somebody.

Tina's still out. She's still in Utah. Yeah, that's why you overloaded the show with clips today. But you're the one with the clips. No, I know, but I'm saying you had a presentation. You had deep dives. You had follow-ups. You looked into this group of screwballs and you had

the information this is what happens are you complaining no i thought it was fine i was just relaxing but uh it was very entertaining it was educational it's educational i have a new schedule i got up early this morning i'm getting up early again oh good Oh, good for you. I had more work. You're right. I did do some of the work yesterday. Yeah, you're right. The show gets better. You're sitting there bored. I guess so. Let's thank the treasure.

We have a lot of PhDs incoming today, which is good to see. We kick it off with Brandon Jansen. Just says US. Does not have a state in his... So I don't know where he's from. Yeah, I don't know. Wait, he has a note.

Yeah, he came in with a check. And he came in with a check for some amount and then $4 and $2 bills. We have a $2 bill thing going on with the show. $4 and $2 bills. We have a $2 bill thing going on with the show. One of our producers dropped off $222.22

and all the dollars were $110 $2 bills. Wow. So 1601 instant night for his conspiracy therapist Sir Parson of Florence. Sent us a card.

Happy anniversary card. No agenda show is truly the best podcast in the universe. Sincerely, Future Nights from Captain Planet. This is hard to read. Do you have the note there in front of you? Because this is a handwritten note. I do have the note. So he read the card, but then the note is,

because he has, oh, Sir Conspiracy Therapist, Sir Parson of Florence. I have it. Yes. I knew this note was trouble when it came in. Jay couldn't read it, but it's in longhand, and it is, it's not unreadable, but I probably, let me try't read it. But it's in longhand, and it is it's not unreadable, but I probably, let me try to read it.

I'd like a thousand of this to instantiate my conspiracy therapist, Sir Parson of Florence, who is probably a knight already. The remainder going towards my future knighting to be determined. Tried listening

to no agenda after Adam's first Rogan, Rogan donation appearance. However, it was not ready for two. I was not ready to absorb the information and analysis. Yes. You have to be ready for this. Yes.

True. I agree. Fast forward to the beginning of 2023. And after six shots, no, he didn't say that i was i was feeling lost with my previous world view having been shattered after all the relentless psyops beating me down you both still sounded crazy but but only because I was, in fact, I was the crazy one. Oh.

Ah, he woke up. I went back to January 2022 and proceeded to listen to all the year's episodes in addition to, brother, staying up to date with the current episodes

just helped me snap out of it, basically. Holy crap, these guys are on to the scams, he says to himself. And he went on and on. He goes on. I don't want to read the whole thing. Ignorance is bliss, but luckily I've come to realize that it is better to know the truth than to be comforted with lies.

The first step is admittedly that i've been duped i've been duped which is not easy but but uh improving wow this note will not be complete without a shout out to my beautiful and endlessly patient wife. My life would truly be meaningless without her and our boys. Thanks for the 21 years, babe. This is an important part of the note. You are the light of my life. My reason. I just all scrambled here at the bottom.

My reason for living. Sincerely, a faithful and future night god speed to all oh that's beautiful man anyone says some karma jingles i'll give him a karma here you've got karma oh wait he also needs a jobs karma and baby making karma well we'll throw in a goat to make that jobs jobs jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. All right, then we have Keith Gibson with 1,000. I don't have a note from Keith.

Do you have a note from Keith? I want to say that Keith is actually Sir Keg of the Spring. Sir Keg of the Spring, okay. And he, I could not find, he's written before. So he, that's how I got his name. So he hasn't said anything in for this. So we'll give him a double up. Yep, double up karma it is.

There you go, Sir K. You've got. Double up. Karma. I'll grab the next one then to make it easy. Kevin Popovich, a thousand. These are all PhD-ers. In the morning, John and Adam,

thanks for the biweekly dose of deconstruction and sanity in a world of enlarged amygdalas and experts who base their professional opinions on what many believe and what is most likely true. It's always a relief to watch fellow critical thinkers and deconstructionists straddle dimensions to reach the point where all world lines meet with enough fortitude, will, and reflexes we can reach the true end. With this donation, I reach knighthoodhood i'd like to be knighted sir kevin knight of the reading of the reading clover reading a reading what do you think reading clover or the reading clover it's just i mean

i think it's got to be ready must be ready i'd like to request homemade thai pepper infused vodka and katsu curry to be added to the round table if there's any in stock. Hey, I make that. That's why we have it in stock. Yeah. Reason is lit, he says. Well, thank you, Kevin. Reason is lit.

So my first, I just should say before you do that, my first batch of Thai pepper, and I get some Thai peppers from some Hmong at the farmer's market who make some of the hottest Thai peppers. In fact, the last batch, they said be very careful with it because they're actually ghost peppers.

Oh, no. Because the mom planted some nearby ghost peppers, and they interbred with the pollination. So they're actually inedible. Dangerous, dangerous, very dangerous. So the first batch of Thai pepper I made, which I still have from like 15 years ago, I put like 10 of these hot Thai chilies in there.

Yeah. One. You use one. One. One. Not 10. Uh-huh. All right.

All right. So you live. Derek J. Viskers up. Dear Linda Lou Patkin, for also $1,000, so he'll be a triple threat with the PhD executive producer and added to his. Oh, right. I recently received my PhD in media deconstruction with a minor in sound effects. Do you have a sense of current job market for these skills? Congrats, John and Adam and the NA producers for 1,600 episodes in sound effects. Do you have a sense of a current job market for these skills? Congrats, John and Adam and the NA producers

for 1,600 episodes in 16 years. Thank you. Oh, how incredibly nice. Thank you. Derek Boggs, 1,000. Gentlemen, thank you for your courage. I donated 1,564 and my name was misspelled in the credits.

Could you please correct this? Well, yes, of course. I would like to be knighted, Sir Derek, protector of Section 707. 707? I'm not sure what 707 is. No, he knows we don't. He knows. Huntsman Karma for my business, please. Well, doesn't really exist, but I can do one on the fly.

Fire Barriers LLC. You got it. He doesn't really exist, but I can do one on the fly. Fire Barriers LLC. You got it. You've got karma. Eric Pepper in Northfield, New Jersey. Another triple threat. Three bagger. Night name Sir Aerox Rock. A-R-O-X Rock.

Aerox Rock, A-R-O-C Rock. A defender of the Isle Redoubt of the Brigantine home of Pepper Cove Beach. Food at the Roundtable. Some Tom Lau. And Mekong Whiskey. Okay. We Too Low. Yes, very funny. Bang too low. Yes, very funny.

Bang, ding, ow. Okay. Dark Lady Dazur. Dazur. Dazur. D-A-Z-H-U-R. 1,000. I'd like to be Dark Lady Dazur,

demon dragon of the undercity. Thank you. You got it. Done. Consider it done. Brandon Jorgensen. Another $1,000 winner. First timer here. Love you guys and everything you do.

Oh, thank you. Very nice. Arn Laranat. Ahern. Ahern. Arn Laranat. Woodway. Ahern.

Ahern? Sounds weird. We had a kid in school. His name was Ahern. Ahern? This sounds weird. See, we had a kid in school. His name was Ahern. Ahern. Really? Did Ahern get beat up a lot? Seems like Ahern would.

$1,000? No, no. Do we have a note from Ahern? I don't have one, no. Ahern, here you come with your double up karma. You've got... Double up. Karma. And then we have Linda who gets credit for it. I thought it was linda but it's linda i guess

i think it is linda but the 684 this is the donation from the um meetup at the mallard club 684 she was the lucky winner and she and she needed a de-douching we got you've been de-douching. We got that. You've been de-douched. And then we have Sir Chris and Dame Kristen from Walnut Creek, California. Switcheroo, please credit this executive producership to my best friend since grade school,

Sir William Messing of Bainbridge Island. Bill is celebrating a double nickel birthday today, October 22nd. I could not think of a better present than an executive producer credit on the best podcast in the universe. Happy birthday, Bill. Please throw him a goat karma for good health and happiness. Congrats on 16 years of media deconstruction. All the best to you and the Noah Jenner family. Sir Chris and Dame Kristen of Carmel-by-the-Sea.

You've got... Karma. Switcheroo is in. Is in. It's in. Andrew Kudlik, 333.33, self-proclaimed longest time D-bag. So I don't know if you... I guess he doesn't want a D-douching.

Yeah, well, so yes or no i would say no because he wants to be a self-proclaimed longtime douchebag okay no it is then that's it that's his whole note as far as i know yeah wait didn't he i didn't okay Unless you can find one. No, I don't have anything. Russell Davidson, 333.23, Fort Collins, Colorado. I haven't donated in a few years since I gave up sending checks after a second check was apparently lost in transit to El Cerrito. I don't like giving PayPal any money, but I know Zelle doesn't work from my bank to yours, and I also haven't made the effort to set up a PopMoney account yet either. Given my lapse in donations, pleaseuce me you've been deduced and give me a yak karma for

an upcoming elk hunt thank you for your courage russell davidson yak karma for you you've got karma. Okay. This is the other note. Okay, we're at Zach Williams. Can you find this note? Well, isn't that on the note that we got? Yeah, I have it. Yes.

I believe I have it here. Hold on a second. Yes, Zach Williams. John. John. But I'll read it. 333. We hope you enjoy this gift with family and friends.

You've been encouraging part of my Thursdays and Sundays. My kids shout, John Sainov Dvorak, every time they hear your voice. Hi, kids. Whether you know it or not, give them another hey, kids. Hey, kids. Keep listening.

Whether you know it or not, you're making an impact on generations. Very sincerely you for your courage blessing from zach williams from the little truth company littletruth.org in fine in close you'll find first edition number 30 of production to hardcovers to coloring books wow okay yeah littletruth.org go check it out and he says oh he says uh if you go to little truth.org discount code itf10 for no agenda nation 10 discount on my first children's book the great unknown there you go and he wants uh we're all gonna die and a little girl yay hold on a second where's my where's the little i put the little girl in the, in the closet. You might die.

There you go. Okay. And that was, was that Zach? That's a, yeah, Zach, but for Chris, it's a switcheroo. Okay. So we have Sir Rich Meister in Los Altos, another attendee at the meetup. I'm in need of a severe de-douching.

You've been de-douched. He came in with 300. 300. Hey, John, what would happen if I give carnivorous plants some ammonium nitrate? I don't know. I don't know either. What will happen? To be honest about it, they probably won't like it. Nothing good. You have to feed them

with a spoon. That's the problem. I want to give a shout out to my favorite podcast app, RSS Radio by Dorada Software. Not part of the podcasting 2.0 ecosystem, but hoping it will be. It was one of the first apps to offer silent skip and provide an equalizer. What's really cool is you can group your podcast into different categories that you create. That sounds familiar. And if you like the episode's artwork, the app shows you the URL of the image for downloading.

The app can also display chapters and live stream if you have a link. I got my PMP certification, so i'm going to get a jobs karma i need one thanks sincerely sir reichmeister yeah and uh ask the developer to uh to check out podcasting 2.0 functionality jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs you've got karma karma francisco remos is in temecula temecula temecula temecula that's what i thought temecula california 234.56 love that number good morning john and adam i've been listening to the podcast since adam's appearance on joe rogan back in september 2020 rogan donation i was tired of being a douche and i it happens and i decided to contribute some of my treasure to the best podcast in the universe thank you both for all you do please give me an american made

deduced none of that china made junk you've been deduced and i would also like a china is a ho oh okay a another you might die how often does that happen another you might die. How often does that happen? Another you might die and a noodle gun jingle. Well, we got all of that for you. Respectfully, Francisco Ramos from Temecula, California. Chinese asshole! You might die. And the jingle. I'm gonna shoot you in the face with my noodle gun, you racist piece of shit.

I got my pasta glock locked and loaded. Now you have Sir Gleckamo in Crockett, California. Two, three, four, five, six. And there's no note from him that I can find. And so let's give him a double up karma. You've got karma. I want to get this next one. This is Sir Montauk, who was at the meetup,

and he's the one who dropped off $111. In $2 bills? $2 bills. Nice, I like it, I like it. And a dime and two pennies, a couple of dimes and two pennies. And it's a row of ducks. He once held karma for his mom's broken leg, but I should mention he's also the guy as far as I know,

who did a whole slew of no agenda stickers, which we gave out to everybody that we could. And they're dynamite. They're mostly little covers that are about one inch by one inch, a little show album art and some other stuff. And they're just really, it was nice. They're not, it was a nice gesture.

All right, Sir Montauk, thanks for going to the meetup. We appreciate you. You've got karma. Sir Don Francis, Chandler, Arizona, 222.16. In the morning, Adam and John, this donation is in honor of my smoking hot wife, Dame Stephanie, and the Explorer Chicks gang, currently wreaking havoc across the

state of utah it may be fellow traveler yes dude you missed the special meetup it may be added to the bail fund started by sir mike in the last episode at your discretion i too must admit to feeling somewhat gel adam congratulations on 1600 plus shows in 16 years from Sir Don Francis. Thank you very much, Sir Don. I feel like you're my brother now. We are brothers. Brothers in this mess. Kiwi Rick in Western Australia.

And he is, this has to be bumped up it's actually amounts to $345.67 that's what we do in Australian dollars even though it's $208.82 what's wrong with Australia yeah a lot congratulations on your anniversary from Perth he's in Perth please de-douche me

you've been de-douched let me do the birthday list I'm 48 on October 22nd you might want to check because this is a lot of stuff for Jay to do and she might have missed this one the donation also brings up my knighthood please dub me Sir Richard of the lands down under

and I would humbly request bangers and mash along with the usual accoutrements of the round table. May I have a 33 is the magic number jingle and a result of my now former new socialist slash Marxist boss who unceremoniously moved me on. Can I also have the best jobs karma lovers lit Kiwi Rick. Yes, and this is no problem for Jay. She's on it. She got them on both lists.

33, that's the magic number. Go, go, go. It's the magic number. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You thought. Oh, my. Well, I'd love to take the last one, but it's kind of your gig.

Yeah, your gig. Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado with Jobs Karma. For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Ingersmaker. Yeah. I almost made it. Okay. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. John, we're going to have to do that one over again for this special spot. Yeah, he's trying to break the record for time. All right, go, folks. Jobs Karma.

For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakersInc.com. Or just find Linda Lupat. And you can find her. She's under the show's producer list. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote. And the showdown continues. It sure does. Thank you all to these executive and associate executive producers and PhDers. We have a special ceremony for you to hand out your PhDs,

although I'm looking for a bit of help with the imaging, if anyone feels that they could up to that. These are credits that are real, recognized across the entertainment industry. You can probably display them on your LinkedIn, on your resume, or go ahead if you don't have an IMDb account because you're already in the entertainment industry. Many bigwigs who produce the show are. You can now become one, imdb.com. All of that is completely legal, correct, and good. And a reminder that we only guaranteed read the notes for execs and associate executive producers. Sometimes we'll stop and we'll grab one on the way down.

And John is going to take us through the 50s right now. Exactly. Let's start with, who's at the top of the list? De'Ron Vargo in Hoffman Hills, Illinois. 160. Dame Shopska Salad. There you go. In Chesham, UK.

I'm looking for some dedouchings here. Counter San Francisco was at the meetup. 160 bucks. Dan Malley in Fremmont california 113 matt grisham in zephyr hills florida 105 this is our uh star hill hemp they got uh 11 from every sale using the 22 discount code ducat 22 Hemp. So, there you go. Ian. Ian.

I almost did it. We know that. Ian Beveridge or Beveridge, I'm sorry. It's Beveridge. Beveridge or Beveridge in Long Branch, New Jersey, 101.33. Ian, another Ian Fields, $100. Patricia S. Ian, another Ian, Fields, $100.

Patricia S. Lewis in Merced, California, $100. She's got a birthday call and a biscuit for her birthday. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. That's for his birthday, for Parker Mitchell's birthday from his Mimi, from his Mimi.

His Mimi. Baron Amandale was at the meetup, $100. Sir Lavish was at the meetup, and I promised him when I was chatting with him that I would say the following. Behind the Schemes live Monday night on the No Agenda Stream, 730 PST. There's a second part to that.

Oh, I don't think he, what's the second part, Red, does he't think he was the second part red does he yeah okay let me start over behind the schemes live monday night on no agenda stream at 7 30 p.m join lavish for the bts spooky hour monday october 23rd good work brian lillard in prosper texas 88888. Kevin McLaughlin comes in, 8008. Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Feel for lumps. Save your bumps.

Okay. Jason Mararara in Vancouver, Washington, 8008. John Siebert in Auburn, California. He came down from Auburn to go to the meetup. Oh, how nice. And he came in with 8008. Very cool. John Siebert in Auburn, California. He came down from Auburn to go to the meetup. Oh, how nice. And he came in with 8008. Very cool.

Kyle Posiak in Hannibal, Missouri. It's a Barnhart donation. It's 8005, and it's a Barnhart donation, and he's a de-douching. You got your Barnhart guy. Yeah, I got a Barnhart guy. needs a de-douching. You got your Barnhart guy. Yeah, I got a Barnhart guy. You've been de-douched. Barnhart donation. Oh, please. Brian Bellin in Ashbury, New Jersey, 80.

And he does have a comment I want to say. Best show. Dakota Cole in Sherwood, Oregon, 80. Having issues with the notes from this person. show. Dakota Cole in Sherwood, Oregon 80. Having issues with the notes from this person. David Jarman in North Torremura in New South Wales, Australia

79.90. Hooray. Adam said it correctly. Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington 6996. Kevin McLaughlin's back with 6006 Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Save the blouse bunnies. Save the blouse bunnies.

Save the blouse bunnies. Eric Hulse in Richmond, Texas, 5555. Nicholas Oman in Thief River Falls, Minnesota, 5555. Barry Henry in Rancho Palos Verdes, 52-42. Forrest Martin, 50-05. Andrew Benz in Imperial, Missouri, 50-05. Matt Illingworth in Montclair, New Jersey, 50. And these are all 50s now.

We're going to wrap this up pretty quickly. Slightly top-heavy today. Matt Illingworth in Montclair, New Jersey. Robert Case in Mill Spring, North Carolina. Michael Manzella in Hopkinton, Massachusetts. Daniel LaBoi in Bath, Michigan. Julian Robinson, Aptos. Nicholas Rudevich in Harpers Ferry, West Virginia. Michael Benevente in Yonkers, New York, needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched.

Robert Hanna in Poway, California. Michael Sykora in New Richmond, Wisconsin. Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida. Patrick Sirpatrick in Maycomb in New York City. Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington. And last but not least, Michael Statham, parts unknown. These are all the people that made show 1601 a reality. Thank you all. Yes, we thank you all very much.

Also, everyone under $50, we don't mention you for absolute anonymity. And you may be on one of the many sustaining donations. There's a lot of them you can find at our new donation website, which is noagendadonations.com, or of course, the old trusty one, devorec.org slash N-A.

It's your birthday, birthday. And we just have a short list on the birthdays. Baronet Nathan Lee Miller Foster wishes Mike Riley a happy birthday. It apparently is his birthday today. One of our favorite No Agenda artists, Sir Chris and Dame Kristen, wishes Sir William Messing. Happy birthday for today. And Kiwi Rick turns 48. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. And now I would like to welcome our new PhDs to the podium.

We do this in one big ceremony. And we hand them out right away so you can flip that tassel to the other side. Welcome new doctors of deconstruction. Brandon Jansen, Keith Gibson, Kevin Popovich, Derek J. Visker, Derek Boggs, Eric Pepper, Dark Lady Tazur, Brandon Jorgensen, and Aham Laurenat. You are now official PhD graduates, doctors in deconstruction. Okay, so this is where I need some ending or something. I'm working on it.

Well, you know, we didn't do the last group. We didn't? With the ceremony. No. I didn't have the ceremony ready. Oh, you want to, to okay when's the last group going to get their little presentation on the next show okay because i wasn't prepared for it that's fine because i didn't just don't want to overlook them you forgot to have a meeting

we didn't forget we didn't forget we just didn't have the meeting uh we have a make good correction uh who is this from uh if you would make a quick correction if possible during john's reading of my note with 25 or 33 off kitchen and bathroom cabinets he said if you live in pennsylvania please correct this to the lower 47 states i thought there's 49 lower states anyway this is not 48 oh it's not available in camifornia due to due to tax implications so it's 47 i should have been clear oh 47 because of california okay call me for why because you're commies that's why uh we have one day we have a couple of nights so let us bring out the blade around here your Blades, hello. You got your blade?

Hold on a minute. There you go. Oh, that's a good one. Up on the podium, please. Dazur. Also, Brandon's conspiracy therapist, Kevin Popovich, Derek Boggs, Eric Pepper, and Kiwi Rick. All of you about, no, not about, you are

now Dame and Knights of the Noagent Roundtable. I hereby pronounce the KT as Dame Dark Lady Dazur, Demon Dragon of the Undercity, Sir Parson of Florence, Sir Kevin Knight of the Redding Clover, Sir Derek Protector of Section 707, Sir Eric Rock, Defender of the Isle Redoubt of Brigantine, Home of Pepper Cove Beach, and Sir Richard of the Lands Down Under. For you, hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, Thai pepper infused vodka with katsu curry, some Tom Lau and Mekong whiskey, bangers and mash,

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No Agenda meetups. much for supporting your no agenda show all right we got two meetup reports no actually we have one meetup report no what do we have now this is odd something's going wrong with the meetup reports um let me see i think this oh i'm getting an error that one. Let me see if I can play it like this. Let me see if this works. Hold on a second. No. That was Dempsey's Food and Spirits. Well, for some reason, that one failed.

Sorry about it. So you'd have to resend that to me. Here's the October North Georgia meetup report. In the morning, Adam and John. Sir Bob here, bringing you a meetup report from the North Georgia monthly meetup. It was another successful meetup, and we had three new slaves show up and possibly a KGB spook. Let's pass the phone around and see what everybody has to say. Thank you for your courage, and happy anniversary, guys.

Hey, NA, Dr. Sir, Mike Roch. Got questions for John about this PhD program. Do those count as continuing education credits, an honorary degree? And I need to also find out about some student loan possibilities. Adios, mofos. Adam, John, thank you for what you do. Thanks for putting it out all the time.

I love you guys. I listen a lot. Keep safe. Stay safe. Adam, John, this is Sam. Yeah, we've talked. In the morning. Thank you so much for what you do and I love you guys. Keep at it. Sean here. Thanks for

decolonizing my amygdala. In the morning, Ben here. Go to a meetup. Jay here in Alpharetta where today we learned if you're going to walk into the bar in a tinfoil hat so that your fellow douchebags recognize you, make sure you're at the right bar. Hello, everyone. I'm that one person that joined after Adam's second appearance at Megyn Kelly. In the morning, everyone, happy anniversary. I love that. Great report.

Messy. But you know what? You know what? These people were not upset, triggered. They're not all. I like the gags. The gags were funny. They sounded a little bit inebriated.

They had a nice connection. They're from all over the map, all over the world, all kinds of different backgrounds. That's what no agenda meetups are about, and you deserve it. You deserve to go to a meetup. If you want to go one today and you're in Michigan, you can still make the Michigan Local 1 Douchebag Pats birthday party at Red Dog Saloon in Milford.

Or on Thursday, the Mile High Meetup. That'll be at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado. Here's what's coming up in the next couple of days. We got Toronto, Victoria, BC. We got Epping, New Hampshire. It must be New Hampshire, New Hampshire, I guess. Virginia, Star, Idaho, Pennsylvania, California, Switzerland, Zurich on the 28th. We got Ireland on the 29th.

Very nice. Good to see you there. We got Albuquerque, New Mexico again on the 12th. Fredericksburg, Virginia, not Texas, on the 12th as well. Bergendal on the 12th of November. In the Netherlands, we have Alabama, Huntsville on the 18th. Tilburg, the Netherlands on the 30th. Indianapolis on the 4th of December.

That's right. The Keeper and I will be attending. Looking forward to that one as well. No Agenda Meetups. They give you connection, and that always leads to protection. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. They're easy. Noagendameetups.com.

Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you want to be. Drink it all out the same. You want to be where everybody feels the same. Like a party. All right, you go first. Your eyes. Oh, I only have only have two okay i have a couple and i made him kind of you know um lame no i made one of them just the generic i would say they're evergreen oh oh okay evergreens yes all right now one of them might not be good for the show

let's start with that one despicable it's despicable and corrupt it's not bad it's not and then the other one is the is the evergreen if you can't come with anything good this has to go in thank you so much for joining us today wow you gotta you gotta make that you gotta monolize that i came through on left channel thank you so much for joining us today it's a little out of balance sorry what canceled for technical reasons oh i think there's bull well but i have i have a couple to select from and i think i have winners here the algorithms are running everything it turns out a little long but what do you know oh my god that was really stressful it's too long this i think this is the one But what do you know? Oh my God.

That was really stressful. It's too long. I think this is the one. Podcast canceled. I think that's going to be the one. Didn't you run this one last time? Podcast canceled? No, I didn't run that one. Okay.

I'll go with podcast. I like it. I actually like all four of yours. We'll do podcast canceled. Okay. I have an Africa four of yours. Well, do podcasts cancel. Okay. I have an Africa clip for the end of show, but I am overriding the one Africa

clip end of show. Before I do Africa end of show, I got two clips about Biden and the smoking gun. Oh, brother. Really? You're going to bring the whole show down? No, it's not that bad. Okay. I'm looking for something.

I could do a Ukrainian update. No, this is a bummer. Look, it's three hours and twelve minutes. You're trying to elongate the show. I can put this off. I think you should put that off because I have an entertainment clip.

Okay, we'll go with you and we'll do what you say yes you have the controls i have the con george clooney let's talk about george clooney he wants to see actors back at work so he's putting his money where his mouth is the oscar winner and other top hollywood stars are offering a proposal worth 150 million dollars to encourage sag astra to end the strike that just started in July. Now, Clooney's spokesperson confirms the offer. It would remove the cap on dues from the union's highest earners, raising an extra $150 million over the next three years for member benefits. SAG-AFTRA president Fran Dresserdot went on Instagram.

She thanked George Clooney for the, quote, extremely generous offer. But she also elaborated it does not impact the contract that the actors actually want. She said that under the law, contributions for pension and health funds of a federally regulated labor union must come from employers. It can't come from the people who are the members of that union. It has to come from from the employers. So talks between striking actors and major studios, they broke down last week. The actors strike will mark its 100th day tomorrow. So Fran, she's the president.

She acknowledges that it's a generous offer. But because there are things that the actors are looking for that have to do with AI, that have to do with streaming and residuals. The 150 million, that's just cash. It doesn't address those concerns. But George Clooney is saying, I'm just trying to help. Yeah, and I think that they welcome that help. It is tough, though, to hear I'm coming up with $150 million. Thanks, but no thanks.

Thanks, but no thanks. But I understand the point she's making as well, that they have other issues that need to be addressed. Can't they do both? Right, because it's like, okay, get the money. Studios would be happy to say, yeah, just take the money. And let's not talk about the things that are really on the table that have to do with the future. That removes the studio from their responsibility. Why can't you do both?

Hopefully they can. We'll see. We're looking forward to it. For now, we'll just say thank you, George. Thanks, George. Put that check back in your pocket. Well, you know, he's back on the scene. You've got something going on

and you need a distraction. Concluded. Concluded. Look out. He's coming back. He's coming back. He's making a comeback. Oh, what are you drinking

at the end of the show? Well, I got this from the meetup. Lagunitas Hoppy Refresher. I have to up my game now that somebody made a mockery of my commentary. This is a beer?

This is a beer? No, it's a hoppy refresher. It's water that's hop flavored. Oh, it's a hoppy refresher. Yeah. Show title. Hoppy Ref refresher. Yeah. Show title. Hoppy refresher. We have end of show mixes from Steve Jones, Dr. I, and Jesse Coy Nelson.

And thank you to our end of show mixers, as always. We love you. And coming up next on No Agenda Stream, before the schemes, V for V boostable music show with Boo-Burry and Lavish. Could it get any better than that? I don't think so. No. I hope you enjoyed your media deconstruction for today.

We look forward to meeting you here again on Thursday. Remember, Monday is JCD, phone-free Monday. And go to a meet-up, will you? Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA Region No. 6. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where, believe it or not, it's raining.

I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday right here on No Agenda. Remember us at Dvorak.org slash N-A NoAgendaDonations.com. Till the next time. Adios, mofos, hooey, hooey, and such. Voices. Voices. Voices. voices, voices, pounding, pounding, pounding. Self in the face, face, with fist, fist, fist. And you can't stop yourself.

And you're starting to hear voices, voices, voices, voices, voices. Seems like there's something going on. Seems just letting yourself become, become. It seems like there's something going on. One night, he tried to knock himself out. I hear voices. Voices. Becomes. Becomes.

Fist. Pounding yourself in the face with your own fist. Fist. Fist. Fist. Took his knuckles, knuckles to his face and pounded, pounded over and over again. It seems like there's something going on, going on, going on. Little by little, you're just letting yourself become, become, become, become. Tyler Durden, Tyler Durden, Tyler Durden, Tyler Durden, Tyler Durden, Tyler Durden, Tyler Durden. Somehow I don't think it's $45,000.

Maybe $4,500? I said $45,000, but it says $45,000 on his note. Oh, does it? No, it doesn't. It says $4,500. What did I say? $45,000. You think it's $45,000? No, it doesn't. It says 4,500. What did I say? 4,500. 4,500. You think it's 4,500? No, that's what you said. Oh, no, that's what I said. I misread it.

Okay, got it. Generals gathered in their masses. It's a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years. Just like witches at black masses. countries in five years. When I first came to office, one of the first meetings I had was at the Pentagon with generals. Bolden has always said, let's go to war, but he's not the one who's going to go on the forefront. He's a coward. Sorcerer of death's construction. The leaders of Iran are racketeers. Behind every problem is Iran. War! I don't want your war! They heard what you said in 2016 and liked it when you said no more stupid wars.

War! seen and liked it when you said no more stupid wars. You've got a rogue president in the White House surrounded by these Uber hawks that thirst for another war with Iran. We don't need your war. The International Atomic Energy Agency has never found Iran in contravention of stipulations in the deal. We don't need your war. If Iran wants to fight, that will be the official end of Iran. Never threaten the United States again. I'm not somebody that wants to go into war. In the United States, heading towards another Middle East showdown, this time with Iran.

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