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Starting point is 00:00:00 Dig her up. Adam Curry. John C. DeVore. It's Sunday, December 17th, 2023. This is your award-winning Give Our Nation Media Assassination episode 1617. This is no agenda. Anarchy on the airwaves. And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six.
Starting point is 00:00:20 In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I've noticed Megan Kelly has her ozempic face. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I've noticed Megyn Kelly has ozempic face. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning. Wait a minute. You noticed that
Starting point is 00:00:36 after I told you she had that? Come on. Come on, man. After you told me, I didn't get I was looking. I wasn't, what can I say? It took me a while when I saw it. One view is, oh my God, this is not good. Yeah, I told you.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I told you. You did. I am indebted to your accuracy. Well, since you brought it up right away, I think we need to look at the script because they're unhinged and out of control. The people, the United States media apparatus is controlled by big pharma and they do not have your best interest at heart. Please believe me when i say this oh they okay so remember sanjay gupta from cnn what i had on the last show where he was reading the script and it was like he's the guy that that rogan chewed out on his show once it was hilarious for horse paste
Starting point is 00:01:42 yeah exactly so you know ivermectin oh that's horse paste what are you doing now if you're using the generic because that's what geo uh semaglutide is it's generic gop1 yes it's just a cheap peptide anyone can get if you're using this and you're getting it from a pharmacy that does compounding which big pharma has hated forever you are now poisoning yourself this is sanjay gupta said on the last show we had his script he rolled it out there's a 1500 increase in people overdosing on glp1 drugs but it's not ozempic and wagovi no they have dials that show you so you can't overdose no it's people using not just compounded versions not just generic versions oh no we're improving the script we're calling them knockoffs yes abc new york back was some troubling new reporting on all these weight loss drugs that we've been hearing about.
Starting point is 00:02:48 It's hard to keep tabs on what's going on with which ones every day. But this new reporting talks about the poison control centers across the United States. They're now reporting an uptick in calls related to accidental overdoses of semaglutine. That's the injection medication used for diabetes and weight loss. They've become so popular with these names like Ozempic and Wegovy. Yeah, so from January through November, poison centers reported nearly 3,000 calls involving semaglutide, and that is more than a 15-fold increase since 2019. Poison control centers say that they believe the dosing issues involve knockoff or compounded versions of the
Starting point is 00:03:26 drug and that is behind many of the calls knockoffs knockoffs this is outrageous language well let's let's stop there i have a couple more so i guess we're pausing i just want to go to the term knockoff which stems from the fashion industry oh yes and in the fashion industry because there's no copyright on on dress designs uh a a couture guy some guy making fancy dresses will go go out and show off the current styles and then the cheap guys will do knockoffs which is cheap and it implies a cheap copy that's not the same. Yes. The only thing that is patented for these drugs, certainly for Ozempic, is the dial, is the dosage dial.
Starting point is 00:04:16 That's their patent. The semaglutide is out of patent. I don't know if they can repatent it. It's been around, but they've repatent it it's been around but they've repackaged it i'm sure they put some other magic potions in there let's uh have a listen here to uh good morning america since 2019 the percentage of patients receiving a semaglutide prescription has increased well over 900 percent a surge led largely by their use helping patients lose weight. But more patients means more accidents and misapplications,
Starting point is 00:04:50 particularly with injecting improper doses. Charles McPherson has been taking Ozempic since April to manage his diabetes, but says he initially took the wrong dosage. Oh, no! I didn't feel well. It was like I had the flu or something. I didn't feel well it's like i had the flu or something i didn't feel well feel well for a couple days so i went on a second can you stop for a second how did he take are you injecting yourself with this stuff and there's no instructions
Starting point is 00:05:18 how do you take the wrong dosage of something like this when it's an injectable and take it once a week. They're going to insinuate that people are morons. People are idiots. And certainly the idiots who get, you know, just plain old GLP-1 drugs from a compounding pharmacy. You're idiots. You're morons. You don't know what you're doing. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:05:40 We're getting to it all. It's important that you take note of the horrible side effects of overdosing. I didn't feel well. It's like I had the flu or something. I still didn't feel well for a couple days, so I went into the emergency room. And with those major brand names so highly sought after, many people are turning to imitation or compounded drugs. Imitation!
Starting point is 00:06:01 Dr. Lamson says that's where he's seeing dosing errors the manufactured product comes in a pen that has pre-filled doses and so it's less likely for patients to give the wrong dose whereas a lot of the compounded formulations they're dispensed in vials with needles and syringes and it's up to the patients to draw out the correct amount of medication to administer to themselves yes oh we can't leave that up to those patients to draw out the correct amount of medication to administer to themselves. Yes. Oh, we can't leave that up to those people. People have been injecting themselves with drugs for centuries, probably. Well, not centuries, for decades.
Starting point is 00:06:35 CBS, though, has a different slant on it. They're going to take it somewhere that we couldn't even take it with COVID vaccines. The FDA has issued a new warning about some of the popular diabetes drugs being used for weight loss. The agency says it has, quote, received adverse event reports after patients used compound... Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Did they check the VAERS database now all of a sudden because they have adverse event reports? Oh, goodness. I thought you never looked at that. I thought it wasn't reliable semaglutide that's the generic name for medications like ozempic and wake ovi people tend to purchase compounded or off-brand versions of drugs online or when furnaces run out the fda says this often happens when certain medications like those weight loss drugs are in high demand thanks for the
Starting point is 00:07:26 commentary so this this last uh news clip i'm going to include the whole script because these two uh arizona mbc affiliate ladies did a great i mean bonus for you ladies bonus bonus bonus because there's two parts of the script one is that we have a 15-fold increase in people overdosing. And that is, of course, because of the knockoffs, imitation, the compounded, lame-o, non-special cartridge dial versions. The second part of the script is, and they all had the same script, The second part of the script is, and they all had the same script, is what you feel like when you've overdosed on your fake knockoff version. The symptoms of overdosing are exactly the same as the side effects that you can possibly have. Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea,
Starting point is 00:08:29 slow colon action from Mattel. They are exactly the same. So part of this script is to say, and I think they're doing this to move people's focus away from the side effects which suck ask sharon osborne you know i wish we could ask megan kelly she'll never ask me back on again but if she did i'd say hey were you pooping your guts out during this thing oh geez you wouldn't do that yeah i would big talker so that's that's part of the expected and possible side effects.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I think what they're now doing is that if you have these side effects, then they will call your doctor, of course, and say, hey, am I overdosing? Well, you should probably lower your dose or whatever. They're trying to minimize the actual side effects by calling them effects of overdosing or taking too much. Listen to these two ladies from NBC Arizona. They did a great job. It's believed knockoff versions of the drugs are behind many of the calls. So let's talk about it. Joining me now is Dr. Soto Harder with Dignity Health Medical Group. This is astonishing, Soto. I cannot believe the huge spike. Why are we seeing so many overdoses? So first of all, the prescriptions,
Starting point is 00:09:49 percent prescriptions have gone up about 900% since 2019. So we all know that semaglutide is very widely used now for diabetes as well as obesity. But here's the other thing. It is actually dosing errors is what we are noticing in all these poisoning calls. Number one, so the prescription of the approved medication comes in a pre-filled syringe. The approved. Notice this? The approved medication. Approved. Approved medication comes in a pre-filled syringe, which is easier to use.
Starting point is 00:10:22 However, patients still have to dial in a number okay for the dose now if you're not properly educated on how to do this you could dial in a wrong number for example there was a patient who was supposed to take about 0.1 milliliters of the dose and she injected one Whoa. Whoa. Oh, no. Whoa. Like she knows. Whoa. Liters of the dose, and she injected one. Actually, the better line would be, oh, that must be twice as much. Milliliters of the dose, and she injected one milliliter, which is 10 times more. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And these medications hang around for one week when you inject them. There's no antidote to these medications hang around for one week when you inject them. There's no antidote to these medications, meaning you really have to take care of the symptoms while your body clears the medications. Okay, and when you're talking about the symptoms and the complications, I mean, what are we talking about here? So nausea, vomiting, GI symptoms like diarrhea, constipation, also paralysis of your colon at times in extreme cases. But very low sugars, seizures. Those are some extreme fatigue and shaking, tremors. These are some common symptoms that patients can have with the overdose of these medications. That is frightening.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Okay, then so what do you do? I mean, you just got to wait it out and go through all the symptoms for a week? So communicate with your health provider at all times, even if they're mild symptoms, because you might get some guidance on how to combat that. If you have severe symptoms, emergency room, IV fluid, something for vomiting, something to obviously, and obviously discontinuing these medications at that point. Yeah. And pay attention to the dosage. Absolutely. And learn from the providers how to actually dose and how to take these medications. Very important. Okay. Excellent advice, Sonal. Thank you. I know we're going to talk to you in a couple of minutes.
Starting point is 00:12:04 That's right. We're going to do it all over again. And they did advice, Sonal. Thank you. I know we're going to talk to you in a couple of minutes. That's right. We're going to do it all over again. And they did it again. They did another report. So everybody's on the take. This is everyone is on the take. And I have some evidence to back that up. But let's not forget America's favorite conservative doctor from Fox News, Doc Siegel.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Oh, he was all in on the COVID shots. Remember him on Tucker Carlson? Oh, yeah, Tucker. And he hates marijuana. Oh, Tucker, he was all in on the COVID shots. Remember him on Tucker Carlson? Oh, yeah, Tucker. And he hates marijuana. Oh, Tucker, marijuana no good. But this stuff, this is the tits. You know, Lauren, we've been talking all about people using Ozempic for weight loss. But many of the users report a decrease in anxiety and depression since they started using the drug.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Do you feel better? Do you feel better because you lost weight? Decreased their anxiety. That's what they say. Doc Siegel is going to straighten it all out for us. He's with us right now. Weight loss drugs like a Zempic, they're treating binge eating disorders as well. Is this a new all-purpose class of drugs, doctor?
Starting point is 00:12:59 You know, Stuart, it may be. I'll tell you, I say maybe because what we can't prove yet is whether these effects are the benefits of looking down and saying, hey, where'd my gut go, right? So you feel better, you look better, and maybe that decreases your depression. But increasing studies are showing a very positive effect of Ozembic and Wagovi and Majuro on the brain. What are they doing? They're stabilizing neurons in the brain. and Majuro on the brain. What are they doing? They're stabilizing neurons in the brain.
Starting point is 00:13:29 They're decreasing that surge of dopamine that you get right after you eat that causes more eating. It's addictive eating. When it tastes good, you get the hormone, and this is actually blocking it. What does Ozambic do, by the way? It stops sugar release from the liver. It causes delayed emptying of the gut. And this is the key, and a big study in South Korea is showing this, it works on the hormones in the brain. It causes the brain hormones to change.
Starting point is 00:13:51 So you don't feel hungry and you also don't feel anxious. So I'm buying this. I think that this is, this is a real finding. It's a real finding. Yeah, Doc. It's a real finding. From a breakthrough study in Korea. Yeah, Doc, it's a real finding from a breakthrough study in Korea. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:14:06 So Reuters did a huge article on doctors getting paid as consultants. By the way, anyone remember the Sacklers? Everyone remember how that went with the opioids? Everyone getting paid? Yeah, just double the dose. So one of the doctors, according to this report from Reuters, which I'll just have to say, we're going to have to take that as fact, who's been accepting money from Nova Nordis.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And by the way, you'll hear that the script is only for Regovi and Ozempic. What they're not talking about is any of the other brands, certainly not Monjaro or Deathbound. So one of the doctors accepting the money is dr anya jastubroff of yale university center for weight management and she has received 130 000 for as a consultant to of this company in uh in denmark who i guess needs her services but there's a list this this must be a 3,000 word article. Oh, and wouldn't you know it? Here she is on her own little YouTube channel.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Semaglutide, like other medications that are used for obesity treatment, have to be taken long-term. Just as for any other chronic disease, if a medication is stopped for any reason, the disease is no longer being treated. So for example, if somebody is taking a medication for hypertension, if you stop that antihypertensive medication, the blood pressure goes up and we're not surprised. In the same way, if someone is taking a medication for obesity treatment, when it is stopped, weight gain occurs or weight regain occurs more accurately. Why is this? So obesity is a chronic disease. It's a neuro metabolic disease.
Starting point is 00:15:50 What? It's a neuro metabolic disease. This is part of the changing of the truth. Yeah. No, they've been working on this one for a while and she's paid to, to confuse you with language and to telling you, you have a disease.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Meaning that our body and our brain talk to each other. What happens is our body is very, very smart. It wants to carry a certain amount of fuel. And the way that our body does this is by carrying fat. And our body does not want to carry too little fat because then we would starve. And our body also doesn't want to carry too much fat because then we would not be able to do the things that we need to do and have our body function well. And so there's a sweet spot. And we call that sweet spot the defended fat mass set point.
Starting point is 00:16:40 The defended fat mass set point. The defended fat mass set point. I like the idea of a fat mass. And so it's basically the amount of fuel or the amount of fat that your body wants to carry. Now, within the context of our current obesogenic environment. Obesogenic environment. I like that one too. Obesogenic environment. Obesogenic environment. Woo! I like that one too. Obesogenic. How do they come up with this stuff? Obesogenic environment. Environment with all of these highly palatable. Say what?
Starting point is 00:17:16 For a show title, obesogenic. Yeah, obesogenic. Although fat mass, I wonder if fat mass is anything like a fat wa. We'll get into that later. He wants to carry now within the context of our current obesogenic environment so an environment with um all of these highly palatable highly processed foods uh the lack of sleep the lack of oh an obesogenic environment is basically when you live at mc. Movement and physical activity. Did you say lack of sleep?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah, oh yeah. Lack of sleep, that's part of your obesogenic environment. Highly palatable, highly processed food. Highly palatable. What does that mean in this context? It means it's tasty. They put a bunch of salt and fat. Mmm, yum.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Sugar, mmm. All of these highly palatable, highly processed foods. The lack of sleep. The lack of movement and physical activity. Yes. Yes. That makes sense. Podcast life. Podcast life.
Starting point is 00:18:14 I try to stand sometimes during the podcast. The lack of movement and physical activity, stress, all these different things in our obesogenic environment. That has pushed up the defended fat mass set point on a population level oh beautifully well said here's your check here's your check i'll tell you i'd pay her too straight to hell she's going i'm telling you she's good so this came up in the senate and i mean bernie sand everyone's all in. And it's, of course, our obesogenic environment. It's really the it's the food guys, the food guys. It's their fault because they're creating an obesogenic environment. They need to put a Senate committee together with
Starting point is 00:18:58 Nadler running. Luckily, at the end, there's there's one little kicker of sanity from the doctor senators say last year the u.s spent nearly 413 billion should probably say this again is about trying to get this stuff onto medicare they desperately want it to be paid for by the rest of america senators say last year the u.S. spent nearly $413 billion treating the millions in the U.S. with diabetes. That's up 27 percent over the past six years. Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders says it's only expected to get worse. The number of children in America with type 2 diabetes is estimated to skyrocket by nearly 700 percent over the next 40 years. Number one. Thursday, Dr. Keisha Wipska told senators on the Senate Health, Education,
Starting point is 00:19:53 Labor and Pensions Committee that rising insulin prices put some of her patients' health in jeopardy. What happens is that patients cannot afford those medications and so they go without. Senators say with many Americans turning to drugs like Ozempic to improve other conditions like obesity, it's harder for their constituents to even access the diabetes drug. How can Congress ensure that all populations that can benefit from this medication have access to it? The supply issue is important, but there's also really important shortages because of the price. And Sanders says Congress also needs to address how to prevent obesity in the first place. A good place to start would be to ban junk food ads targeted to children.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Keep the pharma ads, ban the junk food ads. Dr. Lipska says Congress needs to do more to hold both the food and drug industries accountable. We have a food industry that profits from making people sick and a drug industry that profits from treating them. Thank you, doctor. There you go. Give that lady a check. That is exactly what's going on. exactly what's going on the food companies keep you sick and the pharmaceutical industry gives you drugs to keep you just healthy enough alive enough to go buy more crappy food yes to push the button fill out the form buy more food eat some meats people eat some meat it's unbelievable
Starting point is 00:21:29 eat some meat. It's unbelievable. This is an all-out assault, an assault on people. Oh, don't worry about it. Where do you live? Oh, you're in an obesogenic environment. No problem. We got this special. Don't take the cheap one because that'll make you poop. No. You want this one with the dial on it. Ah. Protect your children, please. It's unbelievable, these people. Anyway, that was my Big Pharma report. Congratulations, everybody. Yes, I expect two or three more of these.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Well, this was the script. I mean, I don't know if they're going to come up with another angle. I could have clipped five. Of course they will. I could have clipped five more locals and morning shows. You know what I expect next? I expect. Heaven forbids giving us any news, world news or anything important.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Here's what I expect. I expect before the year is out, or anything important. Here's what I expect. I expect before the year is out, we will see a morning news person self-injecting on camera just to show how easy it is with the dial.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Well, I'm not going to condemn you for predicting the obvious. Well, I just want to see it happen. But I agree. You're probably right. Some idiot, one of these people are going to inject themselves. Who will it be? Who's fat?
Starting point is 00:22:50 Who's fat? I think it should be Al Roker. No, Al Roker, he lost all the weight. Yeah, I know, but he's still kind of fat. How about Whoopi? Whoopi? No, she won't do it. No, she's too smart.
Starting point is 00:23:01 She's got too much pride. Who else do we have? Who would do it? It has to be one of the women that aren't real. It would be something like Savannah, who's kind of like, you know. No, she's not. How about Gail? Gail still has a little punch to her.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Gail won't do it. No. Well, Oprah did it. Oprah admitted that she did it. Yeah, that's fine. But she was not going to do it. Once it'll do it on camera, I have to be the most shameless of the morning people. That's why I think Savannah would do it.
Starting point is 00:23:31 But you're right, she probably shouldn't do it. People condemn her for, you're already thin, why are you doing it? Yeah, we need someone who's clearly obesogenic. Okay, how about this? Okay. They do a cattle call and they bring in a an anchor from one of the local stations local station local anchor and they bring her onto the network yeah because this might be her big chance convince her agent that she should come to new
Starting point is 00:23:58 york at her expense hey i got a great listen i got some great news for you. You're going to go national, baby. You're going to be on the network. Oh, really? Yeah, all you got to do is inject yourself. Well, it has to be somebody already taking it, so they won't even be shy about doing it. Well, that could be any morning disc jockey. That would also.
Starting point is 00:24:21 The morning disc jockeys, they always used to, hey, John, how are you doing on the Nutrisystem diet? It's fantastic. I'm still retaining water, but I'm down to 240 pounds. I've been on so many morning show guys live an obesogenic life. They really do. They're jolly. They're jolly. They're jolly, yes.
Starting point is 00:24:50 It's just so disturbing that they're calling for, oh, we should outlaw advertising of fast food. Keep the drugs going, though. Keep them going. That was a good one. That's actually the best part of that whole series. Yes, well, that's why I played it last man I've been doing this for 45 years
Starting point is 00:25:07 45 years I've been doing this stuff sorry I was rolling into the next bit roll and now it's time for 3x3 experiment 5JCD comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC
Starting point is 00:25:27 The Neverending 3x3 He has three network reports, all scripts, all the same stuff. Who knows? It's always interesting to hear what is going on in JCD's 3x3. Well, this is an interesting... This leads into my more extensive Hamas report, This leads into my more extensive Hamas report, which will be revealing what I consider to be the scam of this entire conflagration in the Middle East. But this is a, and I'm not sure where this goes, except for some clip I have that follows us of Jake Tapper discussing things. But let's go with the three by three discussing the conflagration in the Middle East with ABC.
Starting point is 00:26:17 ABC just started off. Tonight, that high stakes meeting in Israel. Thank you for your support. Israel. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan urging Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to scale back the most intense fighting amid the soaring civilian death toll in Gaza. He did talk about possible transitioning from what we would call high-intensity operations, which is what we're seeing them do now, to lower-intensity operations sometime, you know, in the near future. A U.S. official confirming a report in the New York Times times that a lower intensity operation may involve the use of smaller groups of elite israeli forces that would carry out more precise missions to find and kill hamas leaders rescue hostages and destroy tunnels president biden weighing in i want them to be focused on how to save
Starting point is 00:27:00 civilian lives not stop going after amas, but be more careful. Tonight, a U.S. official confirming that nearly half the air-to-ground munitions that Israel has used in Gaza have been unguided. So-called dumb bombs. Experts say dropping those bombs from other attitudes, which a Pentagon official claims Israel is doing, can boost their precision. And Netanyahu defiant, saying Israel is more determined than ever to continue fighting until Hamas is eliminated. The Israeli military is releasing this video showing dozens of men with their hands up surrendering, claiming they're Hamas militants who were operating inside a hospital. For the Gazans living under Israel's relentless bombardment, desperation and fear, nowhere is safe.
Starting point is 00:27:46 And after 69 days of fighting, concern for the more than 100 hostages who are still in the hands of Hamas. The Biden administration wants Israel to move to a more tactical, targeted operation as soon as possible. But they also want a plan for the future of Gaza, not just the end of Hamas. Okay, so let me see if I understood correctly. We're calling for some bull crap measure going from high intensity to low intensity. Stop with the dumb bombs and be more focused. I'm missing the word surgical. They're missing it too. And what's your strategy? is that what i'm hearing
Starting point is 00:28:26 yeah pretty much and then my favorite thing about these bomb things when all of a sudden we smart bombs dumb bombs remember the barrel bomb yeah what ever happened to the barrel bomb from the helicopters those were the best yes yeah well it turns out all that was phony and fake you think so let's go that was Mm-hmm. So let's go. That was what? That was ABC? Yeah. Let's go to NBC.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Same report, only this time we got a Richard Engel. Oh. The spook. NBC spook. As Israel's war on Hamas devastates the Gaza Strip, President Biden was asked if Israel needs to tone down its military operation. I want them to be focused on how to save civilian lives, not stop going after Hamas, but be more careful.
Starting point is 00:29:11 National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan. Same exact clip. Yep, same clip. Be more careful. Hey, kill carefully. Not stop going after Hamas, but be more careful. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan meeting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today. not stop going after Hamas, but be more careful. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan meeting
Starting point is 00:29:25 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today. Two U.S. officials familiar with the discussion tell NBC News Sullivan told the Israeli government the administration wants Israel to end its large scale ground campaign in Gaza and transition to a more targeted phase of its war against Hamas. But that Sullivan did not specify a timetable to do this. Israeli military officials tell NBC News... What was that? Someone in the back room has stepped over some cords, knocked a mic over.
Starting point is 00:29:57 There was supposed to be a bomb explosion there, but instead they did this. That's wrong. Hey, editor, nat pops, okay? ...but that Sullivan did not specify a timetable to did this. That's wrong. Hey, editor, nat pops, okay? Us. But that Sullivan did not specify a timetable to do this. Israeli military officials tell NBC News tonight. We should fix that for them.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I mean, they just didn't do that right. So let me see. I agree. Okay. Let me see. I think machine gun fire. That's what I like the best. You want machine gun? Machine gun?
Starting point is 00:30:22 Okay. Yeah, I got some good machine gun stuff. I got something here. Hold on. You want machine gun? Machine gun? Okay. Yeah, I got some good machine gun stuff. Okay. I got something here. Hold on. Should we do an AK-47? Let's do an AK. Hey, why don't I have an AK-47?
Starting point is 00:30:34 Oh, there we go. Okay. There we go. Let's fix it for him. We'll fix it. Of its war against Hamas, but that Sullivan did not specify a timetable to do this. Israeli military officials tell NBC News tonight they anticipate a long military campaign, but recognize they are under pressure because of Palestinian casualties
Starting point is 00:30:52 and the humanitarian collapse in Gaza. Our crew filmed the aftermath of Israeli strikes today and followed the victims to a hospital. This was in southern Gaza, where Palestinians had been ordered to go. Israel says its war is more than justified after Hamas massacred at least 1,200 Israelis and took 240 hostages on October 7th. And Richard, I want to go back to this new U.S. intelligence assessment about the bombs Israel has been using in Gaza. What's the significance of that report? Well, the assessment says that about 40 to 45 percent of the air to ground munitions, 29,000 air to ground munitions that Israel has dropped on Gaza since October 7th are unguided, which are far less precise. Oh, unguided. A different word for dumb. OK. Unguided. Unguided. Guided. A different word for dumb.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Okay. Unguided. Unguided. All right. So we're being set up for something here. Not sure what, except I have some ideas which will follow. But let's start with the, let's finish this up with our, the one that always is the best at the end is CBS. Always. Always. The CIA Broadcasting Systems. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Good start, boys. Good start. Very good. In a shattered school, Israel's military said it killed many militants in intense fighting in the past day, hailing the surrender of about 70 alleged Hamas fighters. In the south, Israeli strikes leveled homes and killed dozens in Rafah and Khan Yunis. One survivor said their children. Today's deaths adding to the more than 18,000 killed, according to Gaza's health ministry run by Hamas. President Biden weighed in.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I want them to be focused on how to save civilian lives, not stop going after Hamas, but be more careful. U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan in Israel today pressed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on a timeline. Two U.S. officials tell CBS News Israel's current phase of its offensive should be completed in two to three weeks, followed by lower levels of bombing for several months. On Israeli TV, Mr. Netanyahu said, I told our American friends we're more determined than ever until Hamas is eliminated. He's playing a game, a political game. Look at me, I'm standing up to American pressure.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Alon Pincus is Israel's former consul general in New York. What future pressure will the U.S. apply? Refrain from a veto vote at the U.N. Security Council. There are several courses of pressure that the U.S. can apply. One of those are these frequent visits. As Israel's president in Tel Aviv marked the last night of this year's Festival of Lights, the country still hopes for a miracle, the return of more than 100 hostages still held in captivity. And while the U.S. and Israel are working together towards another phase of hostage releases,
Starting point is 00:33:51 the two do not agree on who will govern Gaza after this war is over. Well, at least they gave a better timeline. They had the same clip of Biden, of course, kill carefully. Exactly the same clip, which I knew. Usually all three networks don't have the exact same clip cut exactly the same. So how does that happen? They got their marching orders. Do they call each other up? No, they got their marching orders. Do they get one clip from the White House and say, use this?
Starting point is 00:34:18 They send out a vinyl like we used to get back in the day. That big, big special vinyl you could only play five times. The 16-inch transcription disc is what it's called. Thank you. Yes, look that up, people. Transcription disc. And you take the clip from there.
Starting point is 00:34:32 That's all they got. Yeah, of course. People are busy in the newsrooms. They don't have time to be looking for clips. Dad busy. They don't have no agenda producers looking for clips for everybody.
Starting point is 00:34:43 No. No. They are busy. They're busy. Especially around the holidays. This is the B team. Everybody's out. Oh,
Starting point is 00:34:51 we got a war. Yeah. But you promised me two weeks of vacation at Christmas time, but we got two wars. Yeah. I don't care. Bring in Bob. Bob works at,
Starting point is 00:35:00 uh, in Idaho. He can do it. Bring in the affiliate boys. Yeah yeah there is an element of that for sure um so i want to continue this because i have a thesis that this whole of course the thesis is not new to the show and it's not new to our analysis of the Middle East. Then why even bother? Let's just go straight to Taylor Swift news. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:33 By the way, you know the incognito who writes me every so often. Really? He's still around. He doesn't write me anymore. He sends me clips, and he sent me a clip of... I'll send it to you you and you should put it on the show notes it's a clip of a guy doing an analysis of taylor swift's lame music and it's she uses the same four chords in the same progression on almost every song she does it's mk ultra yeah well i think you've got you think you might be on to something with that hey what does incognito not like me do i recall something and he hated me for some reason
Starting point is 00:36:10 you're a racist oh oh that was it you're making up for it by being buddies with with mo my best friend is happens to be black i get to say that i have a friend i have a friend who's black who happens to be black you gotta say right he happens to be black yeah right i gotta get the wording yeah i gotta get it right gotta get it right so let's go to ntd i want to play this this is the israeli israeli jake sullivan ntd this is ntd national security advisor jake sullivan is in is Israel to reaffirm U.S. support. He's meeting with top officials pushing to move to war into its next phase. The U.S. wants more intelligence-based raids and precise targeting of Hamas leadership.
Starting point is 00:36:56 We are now in the middle of a high-intensity phase with ongoing ground operations, military operations. Hold on a second. Is this our war? Exactly exactly what's going on here oh send jake in hey man we want we want it done differently you're not killing right so so if you listen to that carefully and it reiterates in the next half of this clip He says we. Yes, we. As if it's our USA, our war. It's not a we situation, but he says we as though it's we. We. So let's listen to the second half of this.
Starting point is 00:37:34 We are now in the middle of a high intensity phase with ongoing ground operations, military operations in both the northern half and the southern half of Gaza. in both the northern half and the southern half of Gaza. But there will be a transition to another phase of this war, one that is focused in more precise ways on targeting the leadership. Sullivan today also met with Israeli President Isaac Herzog in Tel Aviv. The two discussed efforts to secure the release of the hostages held in Gaza. Nah, I don't like any of this. What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:38:09 Yeah, what are we doing? Meanwhile, just as a little, an interesting kind of an aside, which got me off the track into what I'm thinking, which is this clip. Hamas operatives in the EU. Oh, yeah, I know. Also today, two suspected Hamas members arrived at a federal court in Germany. German authorities transported them using a helicopter. They're accused of
Starting point is 00:38:34 planning attacks on Jewish institutions in Europe. Authorities arrested three men in Germany yesterday. Prosecutors allege they were tasked with finding a previously set up underground Hamas weapons cache in Europe. The weapons were allegedly due to be taken to Berlin. There, they'd be kept in a state of readiness for potential terrorist attacks. Another suspected Hamas operative was arrested in the Dutch city of Rotterdam. And also yesterday, three alleged terrorists were arrested in Denmark in a separate case. Oh, yeah. Well, this is this is come due. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Well, yes. I mean, this is oh, boy, this is unexpected. This is a as phony as ISIS and Al Qaeda. And it's actually brought together of all places. and it's actually brought together of all places. Mark Levin has a show on the weekends, and he brings in Alan Dershowitz, and the two of them outline kind of what I think is, I don't know what agency who's doing this.
Starting point is 00:39:38 It's obvious to me now that Dersh, Dersh, our buddy Dersh. He's an asset? He's an asset. You can tell because he's 80. I can discuss this maybe later on
Starting point is 00:39:51 how much you can write as you get older. He's 85 and he's just finished his second book. He's writing too much. It's a giveaway. It's a giveaway. It's like the guy who did the Steve Jobs biography, the head of the Aspen Institute at the time. Eisenberg.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Isaacson. Isaacson, that guy. Yeah. My favorite example is... He just did the Elon Musk book, too. Yeah, he's cranking these books out. Who's doing these books? Well, somebody's doing the books.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I've done big books. I know what it takes to do big books. It's nothing you can just crank out like that. I like big books and I cannot lie. Yes. I like big books and I cannot lie. Let's go with this. Let's start with the Hamas, Levin
Starting point is 00:40:37 and Dersh, part one. To protect Jewish students on college campuses, to daily beat the drums about what's taking place in this country. Every time they mention, when they do mention anti-Semitism, they feel the need to mention. I got to mention something. Levin's voice, the older he gets, his voice is less powerful. It's frail.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I agree. You know what I mean? He doesn't, he's missing something. I worry about that for myself. Oh, you're a powerful voice. No, you're sounding good. You have nothing becoming frail. Don't worry. I can't say borrower. Don't worry. I'll put the balls on you on my end. Don't worry. Put the balls on me. Islamophobia. There is no Islamophobia in America. As I've said before, Islamophobia is in the Middle East. Islamophobia. Where Muslims are slaughtering Muslims. That's not going on in this country.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And Muslims are not running to their dorm rooms and locking themselves in or the lunch rooms or the attics. They're not afraid to go to class and so forth and so on. And I could go on and on and on. But why should I when I have a guest like Alan Dershowitz here. What do you make of all this? Well, you're 100% right. This is an attack against the world. We just learned that now Hamas is expanding its scope and it wants to attack Jewish entities in Europe. It's coming to a theater near you. If Hamas is not stopped in the Middle East, it will spread all over the world. It will start with Jewish institutions, as it often does, but it will spread to Christian institutions. It will spread to other institutions and will be
Starting point is 00:42:19 in a global war with Hamas as we were with ISIS and Al-Qaeda. And we must do to Hamas what the American troops under Roosevelt and under Churchill did to Japan and Germany. Total unconditional surrender, total war, total defeat. We must wipe out Hamas. And people say you can't wipe out an ideology. Nonsense. We wiped out Nazism. Oh, what a gem. This is good. Oh, yeah. What, they're going to be shooting up churches? Is that what I'm understanding from Dershowitz?
Starting point is 00:42:57 Yeah, any minute. Yeah, bring it on. Now, we know that Hezbollah is a huge, highly funded operation. Hamas are a bunch of two-bit jerk-offs in Palestine running the place. Say JV team. That would be funny. And so we have, but now all of a sudden they're in the same league as Al-Qaeda, a creation of our CIA. Yes, our own boys. ISIS, a creation of our CIA. Or ISIS,
Starting point is 00:43:27 the creation of the Obama administration. And Israel, possibly. But they're not going to take over the place. And Pakistan. Now, Hamas is going to become this somehow.
Starting point is 00:43:43 And we heard from that other clip that they're already being arrested left and right in in uh in europe in europe yeah okay so here we go now we're going to hear the it gets better uh professor i'm sorry wait i'm just gonna i have to give a disclaimer i think this next clip is a is over time uh by couple seconds. And I'm sorry about that, but it's too good. I forgive you. It's okay. Professor Dershowitz, I'd like your opinion. We keep hearing about the Palestinian civilians that they don't want any of this. There's two surveys done in the last three and a half weeks. One is by the Arab World for Research and Development. That doesn't sound like an American Jewish front group to me. And it's not.
Starting point is 00:44:27 And what did they write? Taken as a whole, the results indicate that an overwhelming percent of Palestinians support the October 7 massacre, 75%. Reject coexistence with Israel, 86%. Are committed to the restoration of historical Palestine, which means the elimination of Israel, as a final solution, 71 percent. They support the creation of a Palestinian state from the river to the sea, the annihilation of Israel, 75 percent, as the end of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. These are Palestinians who were surveyed in Gaza and Judea and Samaria. They said the Palestinian positive perception of terror organizations
Starting point is 00:45:05 remains high, despite the role in carrying out the massacre and disastrous results. 76% believe that Hamas plays a somewhat to very positive role. 84% believe that the Palestinian Islamic Jihad plays a somewhat to very positive role. 80% believe that Fatah's terror wing, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, plays a somewhat a very positive role. And 88.6% believe that Hamas's armed wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades, plays a somewhat a very positive function. So why do the media keep telling us there's this tremendous distinction, this great distance between Hamas and other terrorist groups and the people who elect them and support them. Why do they keep telling us that? Well, it's a lie. We know that not only do the vast majority of people in Gaza and on the West Bank support the Hamas atrocities,
Starting point is 00:45:58 in Gaza, many of them helped it. Remember when Hamas broke through the fence and started killing Israelis, Gazan civilians followed them. They participated in the rapes, the beheadings, the murders. Gazan civilians helped them by having tunnels under their homes, by having command centers, by having rockets being fired from schools and from mosques. So look, we all have to be sympathetic to the babies and the children who are used as human shields, by the way, by Hamas. And every single one of these babies who were killed is the responsibility of Hamas. But I'm far less sympathetic to the adults who aggressively support Hamas. You know, if they were in America, they'd be tried for crimes because you can't, under American law, provide material support for a terrorist group. And these Gazans are
Starting point is 00:46:51 providing material support for Hamas, which is a terrorist group. All right, so I'm obviously on board with your thesis. It's a long-standing no-agenda thesis. Do you think that this is intended just to create a state of fear a tension strategy amongst the united states and the and western europe well i think as well as this continues i have maybe three more clips that might add to this so it's a known fact at least been a known fact, and it's discussed in some forums here and there, that there's 1.4 trillion cubic feet of gas right under Gaza. There's over 3 billion barrels of oil right off the coast at Gaza. They are, they have, I think that this was a deal where they decided some time ago they were going to let them develop this. They cut Gaza loose. It's not an
Starting point is 00:47:52 occupied territory. The Israelis left it and left it to the Palestinians to develop and do their own thing and then maybe do some split deals, maybe who knows what. But that was going to be a developed oil field and gas field. And they dropped the ball. They didn't do their job. And now they're going to be rousted out of Gaza. They're just going to get rid of all the Palestinians. Let's put shit like this in to discuss the fact that the Palestinians are bad people, which is what you just heard in that clip.
Starting point is 00:48:25 And who cares what happens to them? And we're going to hear more and more of this kind of thing is going to be slanted that way so we can get to those gas and oil wells. And the fact that we have to always remember a couple of things that in the background is that Biden and the Democrats are phonies. And the Democrats in particular like to string people along like they've done with the black population in this country and promising them stuff. And they're doing with the environmentalists as the Biden administration has more,
Starting point is 00:48:55 has done more for the oil business than Trump ever would do. Just look at the price of Exxon stock from the day that Biden got in. We are pumping more oil than ever before. The whole Burisma thing is an oil thing. And people say, why the crude oil prices? They haven't done anything with this Middle East action.
Starting point is 00:49:16 They usually go up. No, they've gone down because we are going to pump more oil out of this area. This is about oil. We're going to rouse these Palestinians to hell with them. Get oil out of this area this is about oil we're going to rouse these palestinians to hell with them get them out of there if they won't pump the oil because they're too stupid we'll do it john c devorex been a while been a while well this explains why they can't bomb them. We can't really bomb it. That wouldn't be no good. And that may also explain why these Hamas guys are in Qatar.
Starting point is 00:49:52 They know a bit about gas and oil. Yep. Okay. Yep. In fact, Qatar probably dropped the ball on this deal, too. Somebody dropped the ball somewhere because these oil fields were known, especially the gas field underneath Gaza itself. Let's go to clip three. And as I say, it's coming to America.
Starting point is 00:50:09 It's coming to Europe. Hamas is not going to stop. If it prevails in the Middle East, it's going to continue just the way al-Qaeda and other groups have continued. So we have to stop it in the interest of America. And when I say bomb, i mean like big bombs like mother of all bombs like bombs to exterminate no you can't do that you can't do that you just got to rouse them you got to clear these people on this and here is the clip four and israel should be a bipartisan issue all sides should support israel without regard to what parties they belong
Starting point is 00:50:42 to and there's been a rise in popularity of Hamas in the United States as well. On October 8th, the day after these horrors that occurred on September 7th, students at Harvard supported Hamas. The National Lawyers Guild supported Hamas. I document all of this. I wrote a book right after the events at question. I started writing it on October 7th, the war against the Jews. And in it, I document how increased support for Hamas occurred among the hard left. The hard
Starting point is 00:51:12 left has become the enemy of justice, of decency, of academia. And we have to continue our fight, not only against Hamas, but against Hamas supporters in the United States that can become easily a fifth column. Remember in the 1970s when the weathermen started blowing up universities, trying to blow up Fort Dix. That's going to happen here. We have a fifth column of hard left Hamas supporters, many of them Muslim, many of them not Muslim, many of them hard-left kids, our friends' children are marching with Hamas. And that's why it's so dangerous to Americans and to the world and why we have to fight back. Ideologically, we have a combination on our college campuses and beyond of an Islamist and a Marxist ideology,
Starting point is 00:52:03 because they both support the same thing, the destruction of the Enlightenment, the destruction of Western culture, and they are genocidal. Your book, The War Against the Jews, How to End Hamas Barbarism, let me tell you what's fascinating about your book, among other things.
Starting point is 00:52:18 How you wrote it as quickly as you did, how you got it published as quickly as you did, and it's not only prescient, it's up to date on everything that's going on in this country, which is why I wanted to have you on. You can get this on Amazon.com, any major bookstore. Wow. So he banged that out in two months? And published.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Anyone who's ever been in the publishing business knows that's not even close to being possible okay banged it out and has it edited copy edited design types everything published in in in 60 days now the other thing which is just a little side light here which i'm starting to notice and i'm you start thinking about this is just an oil play and you start looking back at all the complaining, all this fear-mongering about, oh, the southern border, Hamas is coming up the southern border. Hamas, you know, they've gone from this two-bit operation in Gaza
Starting point is 00:53:17 to this world threat overnight. And we just lap it up, both sides, especially the right. The right-wingers lap this stuff up. both sides especially the right the right wingers lap this stuff up yeah but here's the thing that's been going on because i caught two of these and i have one of them i i clipped one of them uh and this is the kuomo uh version i the first one i heard which i didn't clip which was on the pierce morgan show and one of his correspondents was pretty much saying what Cuomo was saying here about they're starting to show the tapes of the atrocities.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Now, I'm very concerned about this because of the wag the dog idea. The plan, plan, it's not an idea, it's a plan. the dog idea. Plan. It's not an idea. It's a plan. Two and a half months after the event. Two and a half months is a lot of time to do whatever you want to do.
Starting point is 00:54:14 You can fake a moon landing if you give it something. Two and a half months. Now you're talking. Welcome to the dark side. I'd liven you up so you'd put up with these clips. So, let's listen to hamas cuomo revelation uh today has been a heavy day around here why well many of us have seen portions of video of the october 7th massacre uh what hamas terrorists
Starting point is 00:54:42 did mostly to innocent israel now is he going to mention that that this was what the idf compiled and they showed it to the international news media in a theater for 45 minutes they showed that and this is and you know i'm really starting to think you're onto something here because the thing that i noticed immediately it's all body cam. It's all first-person shooter-like stuff, which is easy to intermingle with game footage. But there are things that you have not seen because they were never posted or made public. And the reality of them hits hard. Oh, tell me he saw the chopping off baby's heads. Very hard. I know because I was shown a good amount of it today, 47 minutes worth. That's a lot of one type of terror footage.
Starting point is 00:55:39 And I now understand something that Hamas was doing and that Israel is responding to that I did not fully appreciate before. Now, I still think you should see what I saw. But to be honest, the shock of today is a little fresh, and I'm not as adamant about that as I was before I went to the viewing. So I'll try to convey what hit me about it. And at some point, it's always better if you get to see and decide for yourself. All right. But what I'm going to talk to you about is going to inform why Israel is not anxious to agree to what seems obvious to many, including the United States, its most powerful, influential ally. The bombing has to stop and before the end of the year. That's what President Biden is saying,
Starting point is 00:56:33 suggesting deadlines and clearly criticizing Israel's tactics. And it is raising a question, could the United States withdraw support from its main ally in the middle east i'm always surprised how we as humans can put different levels of of death into like this is worse death than that death yes it's a death is you know whether you Whether you bomb someone to death or chop their head off to death or burn them to death, it's death. It's death. It's not cool, no matter what. But this is where we work on the psyche of people. And the 47 minutes, I believe, is the entire IDF compendium. I believe is the entire IDF compendium. I think it is, but you don't even know if it's the same one because they're showing it again to certain, certain select journalists.
Starting point is 00:57:31 And why? I mean, is this any different from anything we've already seen on telegram? Is it, is it all of that stuff? I don't know. I haven't, I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:57:39 All I know is that we're, that this whole thing looks like we're being played. And we're being played by both sides. And the oil companies are somehow involved. And the military industrial complex. That's all I can conclude. Yeah. And they're good at it. And these protests, you have to wonder,
Starting point is 00:57:57 what's really triggering those? Is it environmental groups? Is it lefties? Now you're into my territory. Well, I have some protest clips from South Africa. They're protesting in Pakistan. They're protesting everywhere for no reason. Why are they protesting this Palestinian situation in South Africa?
Starting point is 00:58:23 This Palestinian situation in South Africa. Allow me to start with some political protests. As we saw the trade unions in America come together, the UAW, the United Auto Workers, who had a very successful strike, I would say, against the car manufacturers. Yeah, if you want to lose your job. manufacturers and yeah if you want to lose your job and the uew the uh united electrical workers and they had their statement you know the world's seen enough slaughter and devastation wait hold on a second i just want to stop you there the what workers did i thought the electrical workers are the ibew who are these guys? I don't know. It said UEW. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:59:08 UEW? Maybe. Let's make sure I'm right. UEW. Hold on. UEW. Who is the UEW? W? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:20 University of Education, Winnetoba. No. University of Education, Winnetoba. No. Hmm. Maybe I should add union. I'm just doing book of knowledge here.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Let's see. UAW. Oh, that's interesting. Does it even exist? I mean, the video literally had UEW and said United Electrical Workers. I don't know of such a... I was actually a member for a very short time.
Starting point is 00:59:51 I was a member of the IBEW. And that's a very famous huge union for electrical workers. United Electrical Radio Machine Workers. That's what you're talking about, right? With the IBEW? International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers brotherhood of electrical organized electricians now here i have unite electrical that's the ue i don't know i'll have to go but it was it was this clip is from uh turkish radio television so take it with that grain of salt but these are union people who are in America. I'm pretty sure that's correct.
Starting point is 01:00:25 The world's seen enough slaughter and devastation. Peace is the only path forward. This is the time for workers to leverage our labor power and electoral power to stand in uncompromising solidarity with the cause of Palestinian freedom. While we call for a ceasefire, we also condemn anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, anti-Arab racism, all of which are growing in our nation at this moment and must be stopped. the lasting trauma of Israeli Jews from the Holocaust. This guy's great. And is using it to traumatize generations of Palestinians whose trauma will inevitably result in a new generation of resistance occupation.
Starting point is 01:01:16 We can't accept that. Now, that guy sounds like a union worker. I like that guy. That guy was good. Yeah, actually, he does. So that, but, you know, union workers, we know that's, you know, we know who backs them. This is all political. This one, though, was kind of surprising.
Starting point is 01:01:30 This is the Google employees. I am here in opposition to Israel's system of apartheid that curtails Palestinian rights and ends Palestinian lives. A system that my employer materially supports through its involvement with Project Nimbus. Calling on Google to drop the project. So that was big. It was a very big protest at Google. And they're protesting Project nimbus which i looked up which is a cloud computing project of the israeli government this is what google does
Starting point is 01:02:13 they do cloud computing yeah that's so they're basically saying don't do business for israel which i found to be quite surprising. Then we have, and then, you know, after these two. Which is weird because Israel is also, we should always remember that Israel is a tech hub for the United States. It's one of our development areas. Oh, yeah. Especially in Haifa. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I mean, Intel, I'd say most of their processors or every other processor is designed in Israel. Good point. And we have all kinds of... We're going to ban Intel machines. Do-do-do-do. Intel outside. Watch. Now, Netanyahu, he's...
Starting point is 01:02:59 This is very political. He's got all the protests happening in his front yard. Israel's military says it has accidentally killed three of the protests happening in his front yard. Israel's military says it has accidentally killed three of the hostages kidnapped by Hamas during its October 7 terror attacks. The three Israelis were reportedly shot after being mistaken as a threat by soldiers pursuing Palestinian militants in Gaza City. The loved ones of those kidnapped are demanding immediate return of the remaining hostages and say their safety must be prioritised over the fighting.
Starting point is 01:03:32 News of the hostage killings galvanised demonstrators in Tel Aviv. Roads were blocked as hundreds demanded the safe return of those still in Gaza ten weeks after they were kidnapped. With much of the anger directed at Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. I would say that he is responsible for everything that is happening, that happened, and is still happening. He has blood, a lot of blood on his hands, and he should resign now. There you go. They're calling for his head. He must resign. It's all his fault. And he has a response. His response is a giant clock.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that the relentless bombing campaign could help push Hamas back to the negotiating table, a possibility he revealed as the head of the Israeli spy agency has been in talks with the prime minister of Qatar. Without the military pressure, we would not have been able to create a deal to release more than 100 hostages, and only further military pressure will lead to the return of all of our hostages. Netanyahu said the accidental killings of three Israeli hostages by the military, even as they had been waving a white flag, broke his heart and the nation's heart. But he committed to the military campaign in Gaza
Starting point is 01:04:58 until, he said, Hamas was dismantled. In Tel Aviv, as the large clock continues to count the seconds since the hostages were taken by Hamas on October 7th, families turned up the heat on the government to get hostage talks back on track. And a senior member of Hamas weighed in, saying the three hostage deaths at the hands of the Israeli military proved Israel's campaign was a strategic and technical failure. I tell those Israeli prisoners relatives who set a clock in Tel Aviv counting the time until their loved ones come back, this clock of yours could go forever. If the Israeli want the hostages and prisoners to come back alive, this won't happen unless there is a complete cessation of israeli aggression there you go big clock big clock that'll show you she brought up the hostages that were shot i have this funny clip
Starting point is 01:05:53 from rt only a few of these outlets uh i would say democracy now rt and the others discuss the details of these guys getting shot. This clip is hostages shot. Seems clear enough. Reported details from the IDF investigation have sparked a wave of discontent in Tel Aviv with new intensity. They say that the hostages who were killed were actually waving a makeshift white flag in the later comments the IDF was quoted as saying that Hamas militants have previously used white flags to lure Israeli soldiers into ambushes now one of the killed hostages was reportedly shouting for help in Hebrew right before he was shot dead the IDF spokesman or spokesperson says that the army identified them
Starting point is 01:06:43 as a threat while Israel's army chief of general staff stated that the troops are responsible. Firing at the hostages was against the army's instructions for opening fire. It is prohibited to shoot at people holding a white flag and attempting to surrender, but this shooting was done during fighting and under pressure. The patients of the relatives of the families of the hostages are ending. They demand the Israeli government now to do more, and they are saying that Israeli Prime Minister and his war cabinet are not committed enough, and it is not their first priority
Starting point is 01:07:21 to bring back the hostages, about 130 Israelis that steal the captivity of the terrorists of Hamas. And some of them are elderly women, children and their relatives of those hostages. You know, I had to cut that off. Let me just say one thing. Your assertion here about the oil and gas i would have said yeah maybe because you know there's a lot offshore lebanon we know about the leviathan field we know that israel had a big yeah but that's north no i know bear with me i'm with you i'm i'm agreeing with you the reason why i think you're really on to something is because you and and horowitz you track these
Starting point is 01:08:03 prices and and everything we've seen in the past when there was a Middle East skirmish, oil prices go up. And it's just not the case. It's going down. Yes. Actually going way down. That means that there is knowledge. There is knowledge that this is all for good.
Starting point is 01:08:21 And how much longer do they have to bomb before there's just nobody left? I don't think it can be that much longer. I don't know. This is the tough part. But I'm going to go back to that clip I just played. So in other reports of these guys, they came out shirtless waving a white flag. Yeah. And then the report in that RT report was interesting because they said, well, that white flag doesn't mean that much because they've been ambushed numerous times by Hamas guys waving a white flag and then they get ambushed.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Isn't that a war crime? Isn't that a war crime? And the other thing is that walking around in civilian without even having uniforms just as a military group amongst civilians pretending to be civilians. Isn't that a war crime i love rules of war that i'm just saying they always bring it up that this this is a war crime that's a war crime this is a war but they never bring this stuff up when it comes to hamas they never say that they're committing war crimes who's they they talk about the massacre and the one day massacre who's they who's they who's they the mainstream about the massacre and the one day massacre who's they who's they the mainstream media oh okay and in fact i would say they're rt russian media which is part of the
Starting point is 01:09:32 mainstream wait a minute this makes no sense so the media which we know is run by jews they're not bringing that up the media's yeah the joke is it's what kind of jews are running the media if they're not bringing that up there's a bunch of this is there's too many anomalies it's it's rife and so i'm more every time and these these contradictory issues like not saying you know oh we can't confirm it but we can't we will confirm this, we won't confirm that. Everything stinks to high heaven. We're also missing a lot of key elements of traditional war crimes. We're missing the Captagon. What is the cheap meth drug?
Starting point is 01:10:21 We haven't had Hamas taking that. We haven't had them taking Viagra to rape. We're missing some key elements that are typical for this type of operation. So this is different. Now, if we're going to talk about gas fields, who are the people that would be vying for control of these gas fields? And that's, I think, who's behind the protest, these left-wing protests. I think Russia's got something to do with this. Because Putin just did his...
Starting point is 01:10:55 And I'm going to say that for this reason. This is a stretch, and I can't prove a word of it, of a supposition like this. But Putin just did his 10 to 10 hour long his classic press annual show yeah none of this came up that i know of and it it just seems that this is something you could chide people oh you know they're just after the oil and gas i think they've got a lot to do with this and all these pal Palestinian protests in the United States here and everybody falling in line and all these flags. Who's making these flags?
Starting point is 01:11:30 I mean, the whole thing is just stinks. It stinks. If that's true, if that's true, you know, as part of the end times and revelation, if Russia is literally involved in this, that's bad. That's really bad. That's the one thing you don't want to see is Russia being involved in this one. That's biblical. It's the gas. 1.4 trillion cubic feet.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Natural gas under Gaza, not in the ocean. The oil's in the ocean the gas is right there can't you side drill do you need to have do you need to go straight down can't you just sit on the sidelines and drill from the side there's uh there's there's a bunch of international law about that oh we're back to law by the way the rules of war these these this 1.4 trillion cubic feet this is why this thing's been dragging on so long it was in 2000 that two wells drilled by british gas discovered the there's a reserve of 1.4 trillion cubic feet of natural gas under there. All right. Well, so this would be the reason why we need to kill carefully.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Kill carefully. Let's slow down on the big bombs. I think the whole idea is to roust them. They started at the north, and they said, you got to get out of here, because there's tunnels. You got to get out of there, because the tunnels,
Starting point is 01:13:01 there's all these command centers under the hospitals. Get out. So they moved them south, and and they start bombing they're trying to get them out and they're trying to get egypt to accept them egypt's got to be part of this deal well but they're not egypt has the border closed no egypt has said no we've got nothing to do with this right but that the public at large doesn't know what the hell is going on. This whole thing stinks. Wow. All right.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Well, I think you've covered it. I don't know, maybe. I think you have. I do want to play one more of these clips from South Africa. I just think they're too funny. Okay. This is Israeli South Africa protests. And in South Africa,
Starting point is 01:13:47 reconciliation day has taken on a new form as hundreds. They're also gathered for a pro Palestine March, knowing firsthand what genocide and forced displacement looks like. Local journalist Katlegum told me, told us more on this in this report. Well, this doesn't make much sense if Russia's in on it. Believe me, none of it makes sense.
Starting point is 01:14:13 But that's why I can't prove anything about the Russians. But this idea that... This is part of the apartheid. Now, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't South Africa first populated by the Afrikaners out of Holland? And there was nothing there except a few Bantus. There was really no force. There was no genocide or forced evacuations back in whenever that year was. Irrelevant.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Colonialism. That's what it is. Colonialism. And so they're just going to, so we're lying a new history is what we're managing to do with these protests. And South Africa protesting about Palestine is ludicrous. But okay. In fact, I don't even want to play any more of the clips.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Oh, goodness. I'm done. You're mad. You're mad. All right. Well, then let me bring it stateside for a moment. Because we are ratcheting up tension. We are, and it's all political obviously um we just had the obama connected movie about um you know the cyber attack
Starting point is 01:15:15 the hackers we're all gonna die throw in some racial stuff but now the m5m is coming out with a new one because we of course now need to talk about civil war and i can i can tell you that there is not going to be a civil war in america just isn't do you have any feeling there's going to be an all-out civil war john have you ever ever considered that that there's even an inkling of that happening no that's it's an obvious talking point from the from the mainstream and fox talking heads that have to talk about something and this is pretty exciting and i'm going to add to that uh one of the info mavericks the new mM. I'm calling Tim Pool out as that. So there's a new movie. You might have seen the trailer.
Starting point is 01:16:09 It's called Civil War. Yeah, it's called Civil War. I've seen the trailer. Yes, 15 states secede from the Union and create an army and they go to, and funny enough, it's Texas and California because now, of course, we love each other. In fact, I think, to be honest about it, I think that's the code.
Starting point is 01:16:25 That is not even within the joke of it. In fact, I think, to be honest about it, I think that's the code. That is not even within the realm of possibilities. So you do that as a wink, wink, nudge, nudge to the people that are laughing up their sleeves about this movie. Yes, but Tim Pool is all in on it, and he's a part of it. It's the moment you've all been waiting for. News drop. Not at what? You're playing a tim pool clip i am because he's part of this new info maverick elites he's a part of it and he's proud of it it's the moment you've all been waiting for news dropped that a new film is coming out in 2024 called
Starting point is 01:17:01 civil war and what is it about oh, you better believe I'm excited. It is a film about a civil war in the United States. And I got to say, based on the trailer, I'm going to go, meh. It is funny that this trailer drops and I get all these people tweeting at me being like, Tim Pool, what do you think? Yo, let me start by saying this. The reason the movie exists has nothing to do with me. The reason I talk about Civil War is the same reason someone made a movie about it. It's the same reason Stephen Marsh wrote a book about it. It's the same reason why numerous news outlets have written the same thing.
Starting point is 01:17:40 We're all looking at an ever-expanding culture war, division among states, and many people advocating for national divorce, including elected members of Congress. So, you may watch my show and think Tim Pool talks about this a lot, but I gotta be honest, I probably talk about it less than many in the corporate press. As a large brand, several of these news outlets have way more articles about Civil War than videos I produce. I'm a single person. But if you only watch my show, or you mostly watch it, you'll see stories about Civil War pop up
Starting point is 01:18:14 or the conversation happen. Somebody invested a lot of money into making a movie about Civil War. Why? It's on the American mind. It's in the media. No. It's in books.
Starting point is 01:18:25 It's coming from the mouths of Princeton professors. And that resulted in me saying, hey, guys, I think this might be right. Bullshit. Get out of town. Can I mention something he did that Cuomo does, too? Cuomo did it. He just did it. Where you ask a question and then throw the word why.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, they all do that. He just did it. Where you ask a question and then throw the word why. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, they all do that. They all do that. You say, well, why do you think this is a why? You make a statement. It's a why. And you say why.
Starting point is 01:18:56 And then you answer the question you asked yourself. Yeah. It's a lame. I like it. You may only watch my show come on that was good I like that he knows how to promote
Starting point is 01:19:12 I like his sound you like his sound? I do I think it has a certain it's not like your sound but I think he's got a I think his sound is I really like his sound I think he's got it i think his sound is you heathen i really like his sound i think he's got a nice sound for his voice i think it it's just got an i just what can i say
Starting point is 01:19:33 yeah you didn't have to say it at all really i didn't you're right it was completely unnecessary rough but you're going to play the clip you deserve it but this is this is what's not good for anybody this is the new the new mainstream is starting to show itself and it's like twitter talking it's led you know where the the old mainstream has new york times and the new mainstream has elon musk basically and whatever he wants to have happen on x and and you know there's a lot it's dumb there's a lot of dumbness flooding through and people are thinking this is great freedom of speech these people they know what they're talking about yeah civil war no War. No. No, no, no. You're being played here.
Starting point is 01:20:27 And Tim Pool may not be, he's not a conscious participant probably, but it's just this, it's wrong. I mentioned this on the last show. A lot of these guys are getting a memo and, you know, okay, do this, do that. No, no, no, no. Like the script, you know, the script kiddies,
Starting point is 01:20:44 or the, not the kiddies Like the script, you know, the script kitties, or the, not the kitties, the script readers on the mainstream. It's, you know, I'm going to go back. I'll say it again. What the New York Times was doing, and still does for mainstream, M5M, that's what X and Musk is doing for this new, these info mavericks.
Starting point is 01:21:11 And it's not healthy and i'm we have to we have to go against it we got to call them out man call them out we got to call them out that's we got to do and meanwhile i will say that the best news that came off of x which of course we've got all the videos on x for this one best news that came off of X, which of course, we've got all the videos on X for this one. This is just mind boggling. The United States Senate is being rocked by a sex scandal. U.S. Capitol Police are investigating after a sex tape surfaced online. It showed two men engaged in sex acts inside room 216 of the Hare Senate office building. That's a famous hearing room where us senators have grilled high profile
Starting point is 01:21:49 presidential nominees. By the way, I like your script. Very funny, grilled, very funny. Us senators have grilled high profile presidential nominees, including Supreme court justices.
Starting point is 01:22:02 It's unclear if the tape will be considered criminal conduct, but it may have violated Senate ethics rules. I mean, this was disgusting. And it's just posted everywhere. What is going on? How does this happen? It's the funniest thing I've seen for a while. And it is disgusting.
Starting point is 01:22:25 And one guy looks identifiable. Oh, no. Everyone knows who he is. He's known now. Okay, well, who is he? Oh, I haven't even, I didn't even write it down. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I'm not going to write that down. And they know who's
Starting point is 01:22:41 from a Democrat senator's office. He's a staffer. There's another picture of him on whatever gay sex website. And he's naked in what he calls the work showers with his butt in the air. And he says, I'm waiting for Lindsey Graham. So I don't know. This is some very deep op. There's something going on. We don't know this is some this is some very deep op that i'm that there's something going on we don't know what it is we'll figure it out if it continues because these things are not not that complicated so meanwhile you were talking about taylor swift i hate to say it but
Starting point is 01:23:18 and now back to real news taylor swift, continues. A resolution recognizing the year 2023 as the Taylor Swift era in Pennsylvania. Will the House agree to the resolution? House resolutions are not legislation. And their consideration should not be a function of our government. I urge a no vote on this resolution and suggest we get back to actually governing. Thank you, Madam Speaker. For the members' information, House resolutions are legislation, and apparently the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. So I rise to wish Taylor Swift and all my birthday twins a very happy birthday
Starting point is 01:24:07 especially representatives madden and major i know i have had the best day with you and i don't know how it gets better than this everyone's standing around us singing happy birthday to you this resolution is a love story so baby let's just say. Clerk will record the vote on the resolution. The yeas are one hundred and three. The nays are one hundred. The resolution is adopted. Fantastic. Fantastic.
Starting point is 01:24:35 This is Pennsylvania. Well, we should mention that we spotted the Taylor Swift op. In 2009. Or before. The clips came out of this. She was being highlighted as a superstar back in... 2008, maybe. 2008. And we had some clips of her.
Starting point is 01:24:57 They're talking about her. She was just a kid. I think she was 17 at the time. And she's the next big thing. And she was talking to the band about doodling. And she was 17 at the time. And she's the next big thing and she was talking to the band about doodling. And she was showing them how to put together songs. We have the clip
Starting point is 01:25:11 somewhere. I don't know where they are. And... Her music works... Okay, so I know a little bit about how music and the business works. And her music is... You can't sing but five of her songs. I'm not talking about the swifties who are all in and and completely mind controlled because that's what it is but these work at a
Starting point is 01:25:32 at a psychological level as you mentioned earlier four chords it's all i mean you can these are all riffs and songs that have been done before it's's hits. As long as you repeat a song over and over again, it becomes a hit. That's just how it works. As long as it's not off-key and junk, you can make anything a hit as long as you repeat it. And Spotify's, Algo's, everything. It's all, and she'll be unleashed.
Starting point is 01:26:00 The op has not yet been unleashed, but it will be, and it will be for the 2024 election. I was kind of skeptical of that thesis at the start, but after listening to this guy discuss her music and some other things that are going on, including her being man of the year for Time magazine, I used that term because that's what it was originally. You know, there's a lot of people out there saying that Taylor Swift is is a man which is a funny meme yeah i i don't buy it no i don't buy into it either and please don't email me don't email me with your proof and she oh yeah and uh but the but this has been going on for a long time and she has been uh But this has been going on for a long time. And she has been in her concerts and the meetup with Jason Kelsey or Travis Kelsey, sorry.
Starting point is 01:26:57 From now on, known as Jason Kelsey. It could be Jason. I think Jason's his brother, so that might not work out. But this is nothing new. Artists have been abused for political reasons forever. Forever. And Hillary, the last kind of attempt was Hillary with Beyonce. It didn't really work.
Starting point is 01:27:19 I don't think this will work either, to be honest about it. I don't think the audience... There's memes out there that are already contradicting the possibility. The fact that Kara Swisher was all in on Taylor Swift tells me it's an op. She's all jacked about Taylor Swift. She predicted Taylor Swift would be... What's there to be jacked about? She predicted that Taylor Swift would be Time Magazine's Person of the Year, which means she was in on it because...
Starting point is 01:27:44 That's not a prediction you can make unless you know. That, let's face it, because Reid Hoffman of LinkedIn? No, is it LinkedIn or is it Salesforce? No, Reid Hoffman, I think, is LinkedIn. Which I thought was sold to Microsoft. Anyway, he's a very rich, incredibly liberal dude. He owns Time Magazine. We know how these things go.
Starting point is 01:28:09 You have a quick meeting. We're going to make Time Magazine person of the year. Well, let's call into D.C. Well, you'd also want to put some feeler. You want to put some test feelers out there. You have somebody, a stooge a useful idiot come out and say yeah i gotta predict that taylor swift will be the first of the year and if people don't throw stuff at you and call you an idiot oh that's not a bad idea uh then okay
Starting point is 01:28:38 we'll go ahead with it it could have been just a test test marketing all right let's go to some more psyop because there's there's a really fun's go to some more PSYOP because there's a really fun one. That seems to be all we talk about. Yes, there's a fun one. And this is, and because we just talked about him, he had time to leave the shower and go to meet the press. Lindsey Graham, Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. And, you know, Trump had a, had oh man trump had a horrible horrible speech he
Starting point is 01:29:06 said some horrible horrible things actually before i go to him i'll play um well yeah let me play the uh it's the same it's the same topic cbs face the nation margaret brennan with chris coons but some of your fellow democrats like Bob Menendez have said it's shameful and selling out migrants and asylum seekers. Why is he wrong? I understand Senator Menendez's passion on the part of making sure that our immigration system is safe, legal and humane. But as I've often said in talking about the campaign for 24. President Biden needs to be compared not to the almighty, not to a perfect alternative, but to the actual alternative. And you just played for Congressman Gonzalez, the stunning, hateful, fascist rhetoric of former President Trump when he's talking about poisoning the blood of our nation. The former president would bring in place not these modest changes to asylum
Starting point is 01:30:06 policy, but radical and dramatic changes to immigration policy. We need to take seriously that there is a border security crisis and we need to take responsible steps that reflect our values. OK, so this is the op. The op is poisoning the blood of Americans. Let's go back with the previous guest. I want to bring up something that we discussed with our last guest, which was a remark from Donald Trump yesterday. And I want to play it here because I know you have endorsed Mr. Trump for president. They're poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've done. They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America,
Starting point is 01:30:46 not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They're coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world. Do you endorse the sentiment that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country? I think immigrants are the lifeblood of our country and it's important that we have the republican from texas immigrants i've been a proponent of legal immigration and what this open border crisis has done stop there is a we have a process called legal immigration we'll get to that so now all of a sudden he's a proponent like it's something new now screw these guys the point we're still on the the poisoning, the blood.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Yeah, I know. Poisoning the blood. And what this open border crisis has done, it's put legal immigrants to the back of the line and it's it's encouraged illegal immigration and it's created this rhetoric and it's created this anger. illegal immigration. And it's created this rhetoric and it's created this anger. And it's not just a former president Trump. I mean, in my district, people are angry, Margaret, all throughout the country. People are angry and seeing all this chaos. It's why it's so important that the House, the Senate and the president come together and find a real solution, a national security package that takes care of our allies also protects us at home not only from foreign threats but also internal threats because the anger is very real i i realize that but we need to acknowledge it but that phrasing poisoning the blood is reminiscent of language uh the white
Starting point is 01:32:20 house says hitler used um which is why i wanted to get you to specifically respond to that yeah this so yes so she only she what she has a script from the white house is that what she just told us yes yes and this is the headline the headline everywhere is trump takes trump donald trump paraphrases adolf hitler by telling rally that migrants are poisoning the blood of our country, phrase first appeared in Fuhrer book Mein Kampf. So I got my copy out. Good. Of Mein Kampf.
Starting point is 01:32:55 We all have copies of Mein Kampf. We all have. Everybody should have a copy. It's a good read. It's like you got to read the Unabomber Manifesto. You should read the Bible. You should read Mein Kampf. You should read Mein Kampf. You should read a lot of books.
Starting point is 01:33:06 And there is no phrase poisoning the blood of America or Germans. The word poisoning. Poisoning the blood is what you're. Poisoning the blood. Do a PDF search. That's what I would do. That's what I'm doing. I'm doing a search.
Starting point is 01:33:21 I'm going to have it right now. Wholesale poisoning of the public mind. Poison public mind poisoning of our sexual blood poisoning of i'm sorry not sexual blood what do you say here let me go back sexual life poisoning of the sound instinct poisoning of our sexual life what the hell is he talking about well let me go back let me see what he was talking about. These are the doleful and tragic witnesses to the steadily increasing scourge that is poisoning our sexual... Well, in
Starting point is 01:33:51 Hitler's days, there was a lot of transgenderism, you know, a lot of gay stuff going on. That's what the cabaret is about. Yeah, the movie cabaret. Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:08 So their sufferings are the visible results of parental vice. So he's not saying that they're poisoning the blood, poisoning of the sound instincts of our people, poisoning the popular mind. So you use the word poisoning as though poison is a synonymous. Okay, I get it. So this is a lie. So they're full of shit is what you're telling us. poison is a synonymous okay i get it so this is a lie shit is what you're telling us this is a lie it's a lie it's a lie and they and look how it wasn't that hard for me to bring up the pdf and do a little search wasn't hard here's a good morning america overnight former president donald trump facing swift backlash for his attacks on immigrants. Former President Donald Trump campaigning in New Hampshire, sounding as confident as ever.
Starting point is 01:34:51 What happened to the bounce? You know, with Nikki, they talk about the surge. Mocking his GOP primary opponents, who he called backstabbing establishment losers, for trailing in the polls. His speech peppered with personal insults, at one point calling New Hampshire's popular Republican governor a, quote, spoiled brat. Governor Kristen Nunes this week endorsing Nikki Haley, saying she can not only win his state, but deliver a Republican landslide. Beyond his rivals, Trump also upped his attacks on immigrants with highly offensive white nationalist rhetoric, evoking similar language to Nazi propaganda about the purity of this country's, quote, blood.
Starting point is 01:35:33 We've been getting everybody first except America. Trump's crowd full of fervent fans. Does President Trump have your vote? Yes. Did you consider any of the other candidates? Nazis. Doesn't Trump have your vote? Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:44 Did you consider any of the other candidates? Not serious. Also in the state this weekend, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, who brushed off any idea of joining a Trump ticket. You know, I'd rather be governor than vice president, no question. Adding he thinks Trump will try to delegitimize any results in early states if he does not win. If Trump loses, he will say it's stolen no matter what. Okay. All right. So there it is.
Starting point is 01:36:05 It's Nazism. And now everyone who's a Trump fan, you can't be a supporter. You're a fan. You're a fan. You're a Nazi. Now we'll play the bit with Lindy Hoppe-Grayhab, who had a reasonably appropriate response. Before I let you go, I do want to get your reaction to something that former President Trump said overnight. He was in New Hampshire.
Starting point is 01:36:27 He was talking about the need to keep immigrants out of this country. Here's what he said. I'll get your response. They're poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've done. They poison mental institutions. Now, what do you think he means? Let's just stop for a second.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Because he says that you have to listen to the whole Trump thing. He says they're poisoning the blood of our country they're poisoning mental institutions what exactly is he really talking about immigrants here what does he mean well i think and i think for one thing he's rambling yes because he does the wedding mental institutions what's he talking about yeah i he i think he's talking about immigrants coming in and uh kind of upsetting the mechanism of state i think he says overloading is what i think he means overloading i think that would be overloading overloading but you know because the word is poisoning the blood and oh they're not no they're poisoning and the word blood obviously nazi
Starting point is 01:37:34 aryan race white nationalists to keep immigrants out of this country here's what he said i'll get your response they're poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've done. They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They're coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world. The Biden campaign has accused former President Trump of, quote, parroting Adolf Hitler. Interesting. Instead of the White House, she says the Biden campaign. So she's a little more honest about it, but it's coming from the White House. What is your reaction? Are the president's comments representative of how you and other Republicans feel? 76 percent of the American people, not Donald Trump, believe the border is broken.
Starting point is 01:38:25 They're worried about fentanyl coming over and killing their kids. But what about his language, Senator? Just that language, that poisoning the blood. I'm worried about an outcome. He is right. He had the border secured the lowest in 40 years in December of 2020. To the Biden administration, you're talking about Donald Trump's language, as you said, on the sidelines and allowed the country to be invaded. 172 people on the terrorist watch lift have come on your watch.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Fentanyl is killing more Americans than any time in the language. Just on the language. Just get to the Nazi part. So I want to get your response. You have endorsed former President Trump. Are you comfortable? Hold on. Stop. What show is this and who is that woman? This is Kristen Welker. This is the new... Oh, Welker.
Starting point is 01:39:09 She's terrible. It's the new Face the Press Nation lady. She doesn't listen. I never thought she... She had her own little show on NBC. They all have these test shows. People don't know it. NBC has like 10 news shows.
Starting point is 01:39:22 They're all exactly the same with the same stories, but they're all done by different people. Tom Yamas has one. Yeah, but I think- Kristen, welcome. She happens to be black. She's more brown. She's multiculti looking.
Starting point is 01:39:36 Yeah. But she was okay reading, you know, teleprompter. She was fine. But this is an example of someone who doesn't listen. Now, her job is to press this sentence. That's why you hear going. She's no good. I didn't think she was going to be good when she took this job. She just wants specifically poisoning the blood. Sir, is that not in Mein Kampf? Is that not Nazi talk right there? Is he not the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler himself, sir? Senator.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Invaded. 172 people on the terrorist watch lift have come on your watch. Fentanyl is killing more. You hear a ssss. She's like a cicada. And allowed the country to be invaded. 172 people on the terrorist watch lift have come on your watch. Fentanyl is killing more Americans than any time in history. Senator, just on the language, just on the language, though, I want to get your response. You have endorsed former President Trump. Are you comfortable? Do you endorse a Nazi? With him using words like that. Hitler! Man, this is so old. Hello, 2015. We're talking about about language i could care less what language people use as long as we get it right i believe in legal immigration i have no animosity toward
Starting point is 01:40:54 people trying to come to our country i have animosity against terrorists and against drug dealers but i understand why people want to come to amer. But we have chaos and we need to create order. If you think you're going to win the debate on illegal immigration by picking a line out of the Trump speech, most Americans understand the game has to change. That we're under threat. That we're going to get attacked. That our border has completely been obliterated. So if you're talking about the language Trump uses rather than trying to fix it that's a losing strategy for the body administration now i have the wow hey he's good let's face it as much as we like to mock him he did he's an old pro that is not going to be
Starting point is 01:41:36 no he's not bullied by kristen welker who's an idiot no it's time for a shower idiot no it's time for a shower um now i have a minute of the trump speech and i have an issue with his language because we know what the problem is the problem is this administration has told the department of homeland security catch him or release let him go it's policy it is not, I repeat, it is not the wall. It is, it doesn't matter how big the wall is or how high the fence is. If people can come in and they have either an app that says you're good to go, which is how they're coming in through airports. Yep. Or you can get a, you just, there's no way to put an entire big, beautiful wall that keeps everybody out. Once you get in, if there's no repercussion, people will keep coming. I got a shot.
Starting point is 01:42:31 And of course, our own people who now run the International Office of Immigration at the United Nations are giving the prepaid debit cards. You got the buses. You just got to cross the Rio Grande that last bit. You'll get wet. Don't worry about it. And you can see it. People are showing up. They've got clean clothes.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Everything's good to go. Nice backpack. Backpack. You just got to get in. And once you're in, it's a policy issue. You're in, you're in. It's about parole. It's like the disco.
Starting point is 01:43:04 But Trump, see, this is my issue with Trump. I don't understand why he doesn't call out what it is. This actually, this speech, because that's the gross offense here. He's treating people like they're morons. They've got a lot of work to do. You know, when they let, I think the real number is 15, 16 million people into our country, when they do that, we got a lot of work to do. They're poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've done.
Starting point is 01:43:31 They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about. But all over the world, they're coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world. They're pouring into our country. Nobody's even looking at them. They just come in. The crime is going to be tremendous. The terrorism is going to be terrorism is going to be. And we built a tremendous piece of the wall and then we're going to build more. And the election was rigged and we didn't do it. But I figured they'd just throw it up. Would have taken three weeks.
Starting point is 01:44:05 It was all built. It was all ready to be just hoisted up. The exact wall that the Border Patrol, who are incredible, Brandon Judd and all the people at Border Patrol, that's exactly what they designed. They had the anti-climb bars. They had everything. And you know what they did? They didn't want it to go up. They sold it for five cents on the dollar
Starting point is 01:44:25 can you believe it all of that stuff it's a very sad thing it's it's it's just irrelevant that's not the problem people know they can come because it's you're good to go you're not going to get in trouble it's not the wall i'm a little sick of that he needs to change that message because just you know come on there are smarter people at least he dropped to mexico is gonna pay for it well that yeah that was also dumb that was a loser meanwhile something we missed in the national defense authorization act i'm sure there's more oh it's all coming out now we missed a big one congress approving a bill preventing any u.s president from withdrawing from nato without approval from the senate or an act of congress measures included in the recently
Starting point is 01:45:10 passed national defense authorization act democratic senator tim kaine and republican senator marco rubio spearheaded that bill which marks congress's commitment to the nato alliance big miss okay thanks rubio wow you know what that tells me trump's going to be our next president well pretty part of the overall you know they're they're lining stuff up yep they're thwart hit thwart yeah that's the word i want thwart his his uh his modus operandi okay he's going to be president. We're going to see... Oh, by the way, I got a note from one of our producers who
Starting point is 01:45:50 sent a dollar bill with it. Taking part in my game, which is who's picked the vice president. And I thought he had a good one. Ben Carson. No. I like the idea of Ben Carson. I'm staying with the...
Starting point is 01:46:05 He was loyal to Trump. He never quit. He didn't backstab him. He didn't write a book. He's smart, and he was once a presidential candidate himself. I like Ben Carson as a vice VP. He's not even on the list. Yet.
Starting point is 01:46:20 I'm sticking with Elise. I think she's high up. Elise? Yeah. The New York. Your stepdaughter? No. This is the only way I can remember her name.
Starting point is 01:46:31 From New York. No, the one who jacked up the- Oh, it's the panic. Yeah, the one who jacked up the university president. Yeah, she's still doing good work. She's in play. She's in play. There's another thing that I play.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Yeah, she is, kind of. Now, C-SPAN, have uh one of our producers um he loyally sends in every single between shows he sends in c-span callers and mostly which used to be my beat i might add well you know you don't treat people with kindness and you know you block you block them and they go away. So they come to me. Of course, they also think I'm your assistant, your intern. You know, tell John this. This is a new conspiracy launched from the Democrat line.
Starting point is 01:47:19 I love this conspiracy. Next up, let's hear from Kathy in Satellite Beach, Florida, on our Democratic line. Yes, I have a question about the binder of raw Russian data that's been missing since Trump left office. It's about 10 inches thick, full of all the raw data that America has collected on sources and methods and everything. And the reason I bring it up is because I've always wondered why Ivana Trump's casket had ten pallbearers when Princess Diana's lead-lined casket only had six. I mean, that casket had to have been hugely heavy. And with all the
Starting point is 01:48:08 missing boxes of secret documents that everybody keeps talking about, I think that they need to go to the golf course where Trump had her buried and just take a look-see. Just out of curiosity, I want to know where that binder of raw Russian information went. OK, Alton is I love it. Dig her up. Dig her up. This is the best Trump buried to eventually you watch. Oh, it's coming. Trump. This is it. You do it too eventually, you watch. Oh, it's coming. Trump, this is it.
Starting point is 01:48:49 Trump buried the Russian documents that show all the collusion, buried it with Ivanka. Dig her up. Meanwhile, the real news is this. Former top FBI counterintelligence official faces five years in prison after pleading guilty to working with a russian oligarchy once investigated charles mcconnell admitted he accepted more than 17 000 from oleg depraska mcconnell led the fbi's counterintelligence division between 2016 and 2018 17 000 are you kidding me that's nothing i know know. From an oligarch?
Starting point is 01:49:25 I know. But this guy was a part of Operation Crossfire. This guy was a part of it. The guys who were accusing Trump of being in collusion. Yeah, and he was in collusion. This guy was completely in collusion. Some people think he's basically just a Russian spy and that was
Starting point is 01:49:49 17,000 is a bullshit number anyway. I mean, all that's in there so that we don't talk about it. Go away. Go away, news. Hey, dig up. Dig her up. You watch. Dig her up. It's going to be a chant. Dig her up, dig her up. That's the new, you watch, dig her up. It's going to be a chant.
Starting point is 01:50:05 Dig her up. Dig her up. Dig her up. Yeah. All right, NPR is very upset. I love this lady. I love this lady. She's very upset about how the media is covering Trump.
Starting point is 01:50:19 They're not doing it right. You're doing it all wrong. This has been a theme amongst journalists that we're not doing it. We're doing it all wrong. This has been a theme amongst journalists that we're not doing it. We're doing it all wrong. We're going to help him win again. I'm Ayesha Roscoe and this is a Sunday story. In the fourth and final Republican debate on December 6th, Governor Chris Christie addressed the elephant in the room. Him. He warned Americans of what may come if Donald Trump gets reelected president. Let me make it clear. His conduct is unacceptable. He's unfit. And be careful of what you're going to get. If you ever got another Donald Trump term,
Starting point is 01:50:57 he's letting you know I am your retribution. He will only be, Elizabeth, he will only be his own retribution. He doesn't care for the American people. It's Donald Trump first. How to cover Trump is a... I think you're right. I think that was a dig by saying the elephant in the room for Chris Christie. I think that was one of those intellectual jokes. Yeah, one of those little journalistic puns, those little jokes that they slip in now and again.
Starting point is 01:51:20 That's fat shame. Retribution. He doesn't care for the American people. It's Donald Trump first. And by the way, hold on. now and again fat shame retribution he doesn't care for the american people it's donald and by the way hold on what was the there was the what was there no elephant in the room the trump wasn't there that was the elephant in the room well that's an elephant not in the room how to cover trump is a question that's haunted the media since trump's surprise when in 2016 haunted the media oh the media is haunted we're journalists we're trained at j school we're haunted we don't know how to do it a 2018 study hold on a second
Starting point is 01:51:53 let's stop i need to do this no i love it i love it when you do this but it just seems to me that this is like a a rebuke of journalism why should they be haunted about anything they're reporters they're supposed to report the news not not be in the news and that's supposed to be the news and that shouldn't be haunted by the the results of their reporting perhaps you should take another j school course and see what they're teaching these journalists they're teaching something i'm unfamiliar with how to cover trump is a question that's haunted the media since Trump's surprise win in 2016. Surprise win. A 2018 study showed that Trump received around two billion dollars in free media and got substantially more coverage than his opponents aiding his campaign. Now Trump is
Starting point is 01:52:42 dominating headlines again as he faces federal indictments and civil lawsuits while campaigning at the same time. This is, by the way, this is a great edit. I did not do this, but they pan left and right with all of his crazy talk.
Starting point is 01:52:59 Making every executive branch employee fireable by the president. As I said, I will keep men out of women's sports and I will sign a law prohibiting child sexual mutilation. We will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country. We'll carry out the largest domestic deportation
Starting point is 01:53:26 operation in American history. And my other job is host of Weekend Edition Sunday. I did an interview recently that really made me think about Trump and how we cover him as journalists. I wanted to share as journalist this you're missing an ass as journalist. I wanted to share it. As journalist. You're missing an S, darling. Journalist. I wanted to share it with you. I spoke with two people who believe the media is failing in the way it's reporting on Trump and warn these failures put our democracy at risk. Democracy.
Starting point is 01:54:02 Our democracy. Our democracy got destroyed with the patriot act lady here we go associate i this was a 25 minute program i just pulled two other clips here's a douche who writes for the atlantic and this is his view of what we should do yeah i i've got a pretty pessimistic outlook on this because i think that what's happening with Trump is that a lot of the things that he's doing, both in terms of what he's posting on Truth Social, his social media network, and what he's saying at rallies, is not cutting through to the ordinary voter. And that's important because some of the stuff he's saying is the most extreme rhetoric of any presidential candidate
Starting point is 01:54:39 in the last four, five, six decades. So I'll give you an example of this. There was a rally in October where Trump floated the idea of shooting shoplifters on site. So anyone who commits a petty crime gets killed. It's an extrajudicial killing that the leading contender for the Republican nomination floated. And right after that, he floated the idea of joking about Paul Pelosi being nearly beaten to death with a hammer. And there was no coverage of this for three days in the New York Times, at which point it appeared on page 14. So here he is complaining about the broken elite messaging system, the New York Times.
Starting point is 01:55:14 And New York Times is doing it wrong. And I think what the press is doing is it's thinking, people know Trump says crazy stuff lots of the time, and that's fine. But it's still very important that they see it because you know there's another bit of rhetoric he recently uh posted on truth social where he effectively implied that the former top general of the united states mark milley deserved to be executed and you know that is one of the most unbelievable things that a president could say one of the most extreme things it was not covered in most of the press. And I think that is a real failing where we're not understanding the scale of the threat that Trump poses because
Starting point is 01:55:49 it's been baked in as sort of what I call the banality of crazy, that it's so routine that it's not generating headlines. This guy is giving them the exact wrong advice. I agree. He's saying the opposite of what should be done. He wants to go back to just giving Trump whatever crazy thing Trump says. Let's push it. This is so dumb. Okay, then we have a douchette from The Guardian. So I think that newsroom leaders need to be, and maybe they're doing this, you know, maybe some. Newsroom leaders?
Starting point is 01:56:20 Leaders? Newsroom leader. Is that called the editor? Is that called the editor? I guess. The editor. Hello, what must be right? Is that called the editor? Is that called the editor? I guess. The editor. So I think that newsroom leaders need to be, and maybe they're
Starting point is 01:56:32 doing this, you know, maybe some of them are doing it and maybe they're doing it a little, but I think they need to get together with their politics staffs and their staffs in general and talk about what I wrote my column about. The public is not getting uh the importance of this election they're not getting what the stakes and the consequences are
Starting point is 01:56:54 they don't get it you're stupid you don't get it people you don't understand you don't get it you're not listening to us we've got to ratchet it up you don't get it you don't get it. You don't get it. How can we go about changing that? How can we get across the extreme nature of this? By just reporting. And it has to do with emphasis. It has to do with where you put stories, what kind of articles you do, what the headlines are. But we're still sort of stuck in an old way of covering both sides, trying very hard to make sure that no one ever says that we're partisan. Time to be partisan. It calls for a rethinking in newsrooms of how to communicate to our readers and viewers. I'd like to comment on this. Yes, please. Now, historically, reporting was always partisan.
Starting point is 01:57:49 Yes. That's why you had like a newspaper in Santa Rosa, the press Democrat. The Oakland Tribune used to be a Republican newspaper. There's one up in New Hampshire that's notoriously a Republican or was a a notoriously Republican newsletter, or newspaper, I'm sorry, newsletter, newspaper. And these newspapers were very partisan, and they took a perspective and a point of view, and that's why journalism schools appeared, because it was getting to the point where somebody decided that's not a good thing. So they went to, you know, teaching people how to do that. It has to have three people quoted. You got to have both sides of the story.
Starting point is 01:58:28 You got to do this. You got to do that. And it just naturally gravitates because I can find mastodon tweets or tweets, whatever they're called, of all kinds of journalists that have all scampered away from Twitter. And they've gone to their own little hovels. And they're all talking about, we can't let Trump win. We have to do this. We have to do that.
Starting point is 01:58:50 And if you remember that journos little room or I don't know, used group, whatever the hell it was, it was a meetup space we talked about on the show back in the day where they were the democrat the journalists would all get together and grouse that was supposed to be eliminated it's it gravitates right back toward it and there is nobody that's on the republican side except for fox news and they're not even good republicans are phony run by democrats yeah yeah yeah uh but it's the Democrats. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But the whole system's broken. It doesn't work anymore. People like this. They want TikTok. They want, you know, quick hits. They want to see this. Boom,
Starting point is 01:59:33 boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You know, we're all, we're all highly malleable. Give me some dopamine. Give me something. I want to own the libs. I'm going to post some memes. I know. I see it. This is what's see it this is what's happening this is what's happening people are out of control uh by the way uh there's so much talk about trump uh you know if he is re-elected oh my goodness i mean that will be the end of democracy the end of the world as we know it now democracy where democracy's done of course we have a republic and we have a very interesting system yes it's a republic let's get that straight we have a very interesting system when it comes to the presidential election which is the electoral college and um we've discussed
Starting point is 02:00:20 this many times on the show i think it's it, I'll play this clip of Bill and Hillary Clinton, and then we should probably just run through one more time what the Electoral College is for, why it was put in place, and why it is important. But first, let's listen to those bastions of democracy, Bill and Hillary Clinton. You know what's funny? I saw them on stage together.
Starting point is 02:00:44 This is at a Bloomberg conference about a month and a half ago. And it took me like 20 minutes before I remembered, oh yeah, they're married. It was just like two separate people. I don't even connect them as a couple anymore. It's very weird. It starts off with Bill. Do you think direct election of the president, popular vote, would be preferable to the electoral college method?
Starting point is 02:01:09 We adopted the electoral college when we were 13 states, but it also helped to load up the electoral votes of the southern states that had slaves. Now we know that the effect of the electoral college is to give about 36 extra votes to the most culturally conservative and furthest right American
Starting point is 02:01:38 states. I have no objection to them voting. I want them all to vote. I would not, unlike some of them, I'd never try to make it harder for them to vote. I'd make it easier for them to vote. I want the votes counted, and I want them all to count, but I just don't think you can justify that today.
Starting point is 02:01:56 I assume you prefer direct election as well. Oh, I definitely prefer direct election. So they're anti-constitutionalists. Yeah. And I think we should, because they did a very poor job. They said, oh, it's because, you know, the Republicans or, you know, the conservative states, of course, you know, that's switched. But no, it's the states in the South, those racists, they had slaves and they were going to win because they counted the slaves. That's why it was the Electoral College.
Starting point is 02:02:26 Is that the truth, our constitutional expert, John C. Dvorak? I mean, you can make that, I think that argument can be made, but I don't think that's the real argument that the reason the Electoral College was put together. It was to prevent the big states, the overpopulated states, the New Yorks.
Starting point is 02:02:43 And California. Which nobody liked at the time. And the Phill states, the New Yorks. And California. Which nobody liked at the time. And the Phillies. New Yorkers were hated because they were Dutch, I think, is the reason. You got to hate those guys. And so they didn't run roughshod over the little states like Rhode Island and Delaware and Vermont and the rest of them. So they tried to create an even, because the big states were corrupt. They had the corrupt policies, they had corrupt politicians,
Starting point is 02:03:11 and the idea was, you know, once in a while, you're going to get a situation where the majority of people are going to vote for the corrupt guy, and this will keep that person from getting in office, Hillary being the best example of that recently yes and exactly it was a um an escape hatch in case some nut job was about to come to power yeah i think that i think that rationale is more accurate yeah than the other one and and the other thing is and i've written this up and you can go to Dvorak.substack.com and read my article about this. I've said that over time.
Starting point is 02:03:50 The Electoral College has to go because it does not fairly distribute advertising dollars throughout the country during presidential elections. The only states to get the advertising dollars are the swing states that are going to determine who wins in the electoral college. And this is unfair to the media outlets in California and New York that don't get any money because they're going to vote Democrat. So why are we going to give them any money to do advertising?
Starting point is 02:04:23 So we, in fact, when you're out here, you see during the presidential campaigning, you see no ads. There's like, there's not even an event. And so they, so because of that, I think that the media will continue to promote the idea of abolishing it. Yes.
Starting point is 02:04:42 But that's a completely, that's a outlier position that I i've taken and i still believe it no i'm with you i i like that explanation that's why the media keeps promoting it because otherwise why would they care you had a clip this past veterans day actually was a twofer clip i mean it was uh president biden speaking I mean, it was President Biden speaking on Veterans Day. Do you remember these clips? If I hear him, I probably would. Well, you'll remember this one, this 44-second clip.
Starting point is 02:05:16 You'll remember it. The Biden administration on Friday announcing three steps to improve the life of America's veterans ahead of Saturday's Veterans Day. First, it's expanding no-cost health care to all living World War II veterans. Three steps to improve the life of America's veterans ahead of Saturday's Veterans Day. First, it's expanding no-cost health care to all living World War II veterans. Eligible vets will be able to claim those benefits starting this month. This includes nursing home care. Some veterans who suffer from Parkinson's disease will also be eligible for free health care. So this report, and the president did say that. for free health care. So this report, and the president did say that, he said we will have free care for World War II veterans. There's only about 250,000 of them left. Amazing it's that many.
Starting point is 02:05:55 And we got a boots on the ground report from one of our producers who says a few weeks ago, my family was excited to hear on your show that President Biden had announced free nursing home care for all World War II veterans. My wife's 96-year-old grandfather is a World War II veteran who landed in Nagasaki about two weeks after the bomb dropped. He is currently in a facility that's not so great
Starting point is 02:06:18 and we were excited at the prospect of him moving into better care despite his limited funds. After he was put on a wait list for the local five-star VA facility, I decided to do more research. That's when I found out it's all a lie. The VA secretly updated the announcement to say that only certain World War II veterans were eligible. My wife's grandfather is not one of them so they indeed they updated this to say update to the release nursing home care is free for nearly all world war ii veterans who are
Starting point is 02:06:54 eligible for nursing home services at va including one anyone in need of such care for a service connected disability and two anyone in need of such care who also has a service-connected disability, and two, anyone in need of such care who also has a service-connected disability rated at 70% or more. That is such, I mean, that's low. Even for Biden, that's low. I mean, come on. It's a quarter of a million dudes,
Starting point is 02:07:22 and you're going to do that? I thought that was just, that that's disgusting it broke my heart it broke my heart well disgusting and and how long but how long is it going to be a year two years really how long is it going to last so i i just this sort of thing that we're getting from these guys and that's why i brought it bitch and moan earlier about the fact that we're pumping more oil than ever before and making it seem that oh no no we're very environmentally uh conscious oh yeah the cop 28 blah blah blah and then trump blah blah blah and so uh trump you know is well, well, I'm going to drill, drill, drill. That's what we're doing.
Starting point is 02:08:08 But nobody, Democrats are just terrible people. It's a terrible team. They may be okay people. They're just in a bad environment. You got to love them. You can't just dig her up. That's all I got to say. Dig her up. up that's what i mean that's a good example uh but before we take the break a fun little moment happened on the view it's always funny when these things take place uh of course they are running uh running interference
Starting point is 02:08:38 for president biden you know he's just a good dad he just has a crappy son come on stop already and anna nevero well she drops a canard of epic proportion hunter biden yes i think he's engaged in corruption i do think that the charges against him by the department of justice are very serious i have not seen one shred of evidence that it's tied to joe biden that's what it comes down to to me and by the way someone who's no no joe biden fan uh fan, Steve Doocy on Fox News has been hammering James Comer. Give me one thing, one piece of evidence. Otherwise, it's a waste of taxpayer dollars. Joe Biden's crime is being Hunter Biden's father and being Hunter Biden's very loving father. Very good father, very supportive father. A good father.
Starting point is 02:09:21 Did Hunter Biden influence Petal on his last name? Yes, he did. So did half of Washington. People sitting at this table did it. Did Hunter Biden cheat on his taxes? Yes, he did. Who peddled on this table? Actually, who at this table peddled on their last name? I didn't.
Starting point is 02:09:43 I'm not talking about currently. Oh. We just wanted to clear our names. did. Actually, who at this table peddled on their last name? I didn't. I'm not talking about currently. We just wanted to clear our names. I was like, oh my god, do I have a claim to fame that I am not using? Sorry, continue. Can I go back to my point, please? Yes, yes. Now that we've cleared it up. It took a while. Alright. Did he
Starting point is 02:09:59 use his last name to make money? Did he monetize on Joe Biden's last name? Yes, he did. That'size on joe biden's last name yes he did that's not a crime did hunter biden cheat on his taxes yes he did so he has admitted it he paid it back he paid it back with six hundred thousand dollars penalty i just love it when the truth comes out it always wants to come out influence peddlers those ladies yeah the use of the I loved it overtime horn or whatever that is
Starting point is 02:10:28 it's the ooga horn game over the hockey game I love it and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage say in the morning to you the man who put two C's in the obesogenic environment ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end the one and only Mr. John C. DeFore
Starting point is 02:10:44 in the morning to only Mr. John C. DeFore. In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning, all ships to sea, boots on the ground, feeding the air, subs in the one, and the dames and knights out there. And in the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Trolls, hands out. Look at you go. Look at you go. They're so tiny.
Starting point is 02:11:02 It's hard to count them all. I count 2,037 trolls today in the troll room. How is that? That's okay. 400 low. Yeah, you say that, but just get ready. It's the new normal. Just, I mean,
Starting point is 02:11:18 how long have we been low? Well, I think it's the time that we do the count. I think people do slowly move away. They move away onto what? Bigger things to uh maybe eat breakfast no please oh take a drive go to the store do some shopping it's christmas shopping season everyone's out shopping it is traffic is jammed up people are driving around like maniacs you'd think there was shopping there's shopping shopping, shopping, shopping. You'd think the economy is great. There's nothing wrong. There's nothing going on.
Starting point is 02:11:46 But people must be loading up their credit cards. How can it be anything else? Who has money? The prices are too high. The rent's too high. It's impossible. It's impossible. Anyway, we do love our trolls.
Starting point is 02:12:01 This is a great opportunity for you to let it all hang out. Just join us live if you can on show days, Thursdays and Sundays. We do it live. We start at 1 p.m. Central Time. That's 2 Eastern. And you can go to trollroom.io. It's really, it's just a simple old chat room.
Starting point is 02:12:21 It's an IRC-based chat room. You can stay logged in all the time. A of people do that because of course no agenda stream uh rolls out and people are responding to that so we have lots of live shows darren o'neill uh does the the show you did you listen to darren's show this morning no i missed it today how was it was it was it terrible as usual? Yeah, it was just so bad. He didn't play any Taylor Swift. He's got all these drops of you saying, Darren O'Neill sucks. He's got all that stuff.
Starting point is 02:12:55 He's using those? Oh, yeah. Darren O'Neill is the best. Oh, he did play Taylorlor swift apparently oh he stinks um so yeah go to trollroom.io or noagendastream.com or if you're using one of those swanky modern podcast apps it'll let you know when we go live um the new podcast apps are great first of all if you know if you get thrown off if any of your favorite podcasts get thrown off of one of the legacy apps, I'm talking Apple. Which will happen.
Starting point is 02:13:28 Do you know that Spotify kicks three, four, five shows a day off of Spotify? Really? Why? What's their rationale for this? Dangerous speech? I don't know. They don't really give reasons. But there's a whole system, because if you have most podcast hosting companies, you can automatically, when you post,
Starting point is 02:13:52 even when you start your account, it'll set you up on Spotify. They have an agreement. And when Spotify kicks someone off, they ping automatically ping the podcast hosting company and say we kick these guys off but they don't give a reason they just tell them so that when people call up the hosting company and say hey i'm not on spotify um that they can say yeah they kicked you off and you have to take it up with them it's horrible really it's horrible so that happens i'll tell you something that's not horrible the new no agenda artwork site is unbelievable is it up yep but you're a little early i'm not quite done with the promotion yet no sorry i'm just i'm you're excited i understand i'm i'm jacked up i understand understand. Me too. So beside the fact that when we post the show,
Starting point is 02:14:50 any show, you'll be notified within 90 seconds the show is good to go. On some of these legacy apps, it takes hours, hours before you find out, before they're updated. Now, one other thing I want to mention, value for value,
Starting point is 02:15:03 which we're going to talk about in a minute, has this concept that we've been running for 16 years has what? What? What? You went, huh? Oh, yeah. No, I was looking at a piece. I looked at the artist.
Starting point is 02:15:17 Oh, you're not even listening to me. Okay. I'm sorry. No, I'm listening. You don't have to listen. I'm sorry that I'm so close to the mic that I exhaled and it caught your attention. I'll wake you up. Value for Value has taken off so big that now people are running away from Spotify.
Starting point is 02:15:37 And they are. And they're putting their music up on the podcast apps that are value for value. The modern podcast. That's a good idea. Yes. Yes. Because it's no different from a podcast, an album. You've got a feed.
Starting point is 02:15:51 You put the, instead of episodes, it's tracks. And because we have this live system that we've been pioneering, we've been pioneering for a long time, but now it works in all the modern apps. December 20th, December 21st,
Starting point is 02:16:03 live from Minneapolis, from first first avenue that's prince's old old venue ainsley costello and just loud are going to do a live concert value for value video and audio uh modernpodcastapps.com or i think ainsleycostello.com you can learn more about it it's i mean it's going to be fantastic because it's completely independent of all these stupid legacy systems. And I'm very proud. Well, that's a plus. Yeah. Well, it is totally the feature.
Starting point is 02:16:33 So now we're talking about value for value. Yes, indeed. Time, talent, treasure. You can contribute to this show in many ways. You heard a boots on the ground report. That is a great way to support us. The three by three. Many clips are sent to us by the clip custodian, the clip collector.
Starting point is 02:16:49 Dave Ackerman sends me a daily news briefing almost. We've got Sarah in the UK who sends me compendiums. This is all very helpful. And please, whenever you think, they probably already know this. No. No. We probably don't. I'd rather delete 15 emails that are doubles instead of missing something. So please continue to reach out to us.
Starting point is 02:17:13 People do websites. Let's talk about it right now. Our artists have been creating artwork, a new one for every single show for 12, 13 years. I can't remember how long it's been going on. It's been going on for a long time. And we love using fresh artwork. It gives people something to talk about. It looks great on social media. It looks great just everywhere.
Starting point is 02:17:40 In your podcast app, like, oh, what is that? Oh, this is different. Oh, it's no agenda, of course. So we want to thank Nestworks for the artwork for episode 1616. We titled that one Buying Quiet. And this was really the best one that there was, I think. We looked at a couple of pieces. This is the AI winter is coming.
Starting point is 02:18:01 As I proclaim, the AI winter is on the way. We had other pieces. I'm going now to noagendaartgenerator.com. It's taken a long time to load, John. This is the brand new, revamped, after it was down, crashed, and destroyed for several weeks. It's still not loading for me. Well, that's because I probably might one you get to get out
Starting point is 02:18:26 one other user is me one person at a time is that one person at a time well he says no it's still working out some bugs and then he's got some it's not finished but it's just the new uh yeah sir paul couture who has been maintaining this thing for over a decade, you know, we had some horrible hardware crash. What I'm thinking right now is that probably everyone went to NoAgendaHeartGenerator.com. Oh, yes, because I said it, yeah. Because you mentioned it. They got flooded.
Starting point is 02:18:54 Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. So it's still not loading for me, so I can't really talk about any of the artwork. You're going to have to walk me through what was there until it loads for me. Well, he doesn't have those old pieces up. Ah, shoot. I got a gateway timeout. Oh.
Starting point is 02:19:11 Oh, crap. Well, he doesn't have those pieces up from last show. Well, then we can just say everything sucked, but this one from Nestworks. No, no, there were some good pieces. I thought all the pieces were usable, but Nestworks I thought was the best because it just had everything we wanted.
Starting point is 02:19:28 And it was AI, obviously. No, it was totally AI. Everything. We were kind of resigned, even though I know you were going to reject all AI forever. It's not possible. It's not possible. No, that's the point.
Starting point is 02:19:43 It's not possible. It's become a pretty good tool. It's futility. It's not possible. No, that's the point. It's not possible. It's become a pretty good tool. It's futile. It's become a pretty good tool for artists who know how to use it. And that's really... At the end of the day, and I said it on purpose, AI will only benefit the no agenda show. It will do nothing for humanity. It'll do nothing for business.
Starting point is 02:20:03 It'll do nothing for your spam it'll only benefit the no agenda artists that's the whole point and i'm happy that there's a hundred billion dollar industry just working for us good to know so i'm still trying i ended up with a gateway time out while looking at these artworks you were just you just we crashed it well the trolls are saying oh oops yeah i'm guilty of that yeah we crashed it um okay we crashed it was my fault for saying anything i wasn't thinking clearly yeah i i know what probably happened because he's still copying over like 300 gigabytes of artwork and that's probably taxing the system. So while we keep reloading that, trolls, please stop. Why don't we go to the final T of the trifecta, which is treasure,
Starting point is 02:20:51 and thank our executive and associate executive producers. Short list today, but we are very happy to acknowledge our first executive producer, Mike Roch. Mike Roch. I said it. Now, Mike Roch, by the way, we were... Say it faster. He's getting a PhD. It's late, but this was long in coming. I just love that his name
Starting point is 02:21:16 is Mike Roch. I mean, really? On the bank check, his name is Mike Roch. Wow. So we're looking at Jayay and i are looking i said holy mackerel i said his parents must have been a couple of characters funny hey i know my last name is let's call him mike dr sir mike roch you can just imagine what the Hunt family thinks.
Starting point is 02:21:46 Exactly. Powder Springs, Georgia. And he comes in with two checks. One boobs, 8-0-0-dot-8-5, and then a 2-11. And he says, hey, N.A., folder here. Which means he goes back to daily source code days. Thank you, brother. Don't castigate me for operating within the
Starting point is 02:22:06 outlined late rules 211 goes towards double richards on the big boobs of 800.85 now to be known as double doctor sir mike roch baron bull of the lifestyle md medical doctorate md media deconstruction so he might actually be a doctor could be that's even funnier mike roch obgny nice requesting eiffel towers with high fives and twerking russians for backroom festivities of the round table you got it i'm guessing i'm guessing he's a urologist with that name we love guys like that mike you got it you shall be uh you shall be the baron bull of the lifestyle and you know there's a lot of guys and i would do this you take the no agenda diploma which looks exactly like a classic diploma because it is
Starting point is 02:22:58 because it is and it's modeled after some dynamite ones that, you know, based on, it took a while to fine tune it. And you'd put it up there on the wall with the other diplomas and let people see what happens. That's what I'd do. I think lots of good things will come your way. Yeah, people go, oh, in the morning. Yes, indeed. Sir Spooky's up next, unless you have something to play out. No, no, that's all we had to do.
Starting point is 02:23:26 That's all we had to do, nothing. Yeah, Sir Spooky's in Western Springs, Illinois. 333.33. Dear Adam and John, I want to celebrate my 33rd birthday on Tuesday as an executive producer for the best podcast in the universe, plus the 16 and 17 of this episode number equals 33. Ah, who knew? I cannot ignore such a cosmic calling.
Starting point is 02:23:50 Please give us your strongest goat karma for peace and harmony in 2024. Your media deconstruction will be needed more than ever. I'm deeply grateful for all you do. Thank you and Merry Christmas, love and fright. Sir Spooky of the Elm Streets. You've got karma. Loving the 333.33s. Trenton Scoville, Charlotte, North Carolina.
Starting point is 02:24:16 Short and sweet. Merry Christmas, gents. Thank you for the value. And thank you for the value you sent back. By the way, a reminder, you can send any amount you want a lot of people like the numerology stuff but as long as it represents the value you got from the show that's all we ask for thank you trenton rita harrington sparks nevada also 333.33 merry christmas john and adam thank you for the best podcast in the universe. Your sense of humor is just right. Please give me a shout out as it's my 66th
Starting point is 02:24:47 trip around the sun on 1220. Thanks. Reminder from Logan five that the next episode is the golden ratio number 1618. Oh, yes. Can you write that down? Can you write that down? I'm writing it down now. Make sure you write that down. And I'll continue with Chap Williams, who, from what I can see here, came in with two checks, possibly, of 333.33. He's here. He's listed double. Looks like these are checks. Can you verify? They are checks.
Starting point is 02:25:19 They came in. Looks like two of them came in. And he did not have a note, which means he gets a double up karma. Thank you, chap. You've got. Double up. Ah, yes, of course. Of course, the golden ratio is 1.618.
Starting point is 02:25:32 Of course, that's the golden ratio. 1618, 1.618. So everyone should give $1.61 and we'll be good to go. If everyone did, yes. David Mertens in Edmond, Oklahoma. That'll be the day. If everyone, if every single person gives $1.68, we're done for the rest of the year.
Starting point is 02:25:57 Yeah. Yeah. David Mertens in Edmond, Oklahoma, 333. This is for the best podcast in the universe in celebration of the best papa in the universe. DJ and Thatcher
Starting point is 02:26:15 are so lucky. That sounds like a good papa. There you go. And I'll continue to the end here because there's only one associate executive producer and it just so happens to be, guess who? Linda Lou Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado,
Starting point is 02:26:34 who's still at it with her jobs, Carmen. She wants to tell you that for a remarkable resume that hits people in the mouth, go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's imagemakersinc.com or just find Linda Lou Patkin under the show's producer list. And she continues with her showdown here with this particular announcement that she does. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. show yeah thank you linda thank you all executive and
Starting point is 02:27:08 associate executive producers i told you it was going to be short and sweet today um we appreciate that and not only does this mean that you have supported the show but you also can use this credit which is completely legal according to the show business bible um you can use this anywhere credits are recognized because we are an official show you can go ahead go to imdb.com you'll see hundreds almost a thousand executive or associate executive producers of the no agenda show you'll recognize some big names in there as well you can always put it on your linkedin or what are you drinking today uh yes you can't well Well, you got this microphone. I have to turn this.
Starting point is 02:27:46 No, it's ever since. I'm actually drinking your favorite, a Topo Chico mineral water. Yes, Topo Chico. That is the drink of Texas. Everybody loves the Topo. Is it a bottle or a can? It must be a bottle. It's a bottle, and they have them at Costco at a really good price.
Starting point is 02:28:02 I heard that the Costco Bordeaux is back. Yeah, somebody sent some pictures of it in. I will say this, that 2021 is not a good vintage. And I'm really doubtful that this wine is going to be that great. But when I see it, I'll try it. Topo Chico with the yellow cap. You can recognize the yellow cap. Recognized anywhere.
Starting point is 02:28:24 So, as I said, these credits, you can also put them on your LinkedIn or on your resume. It's great. It's good. It's valid forever. And unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we will gladly vouch for you. And John's going to take us through to the 50s and we'll get into our meetups and our nightings. Karen Wiley starts us off from Arvada, Colorado, and she is going to ask for jobs karma for her daughter, Kate. She came in with 150 bucks. We'll give her the jobs karma at the end. Bruce Schwalm in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, 12345. Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico, yes, 100. Tony Pace in Houston, Texas, 100. Dame Patricia Worthington from Miami is here with 100.
Starting point is 02:29:08 James Watson in Mentor, Ohio, 100. Bingo, Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina, 8008. Boobs don't judge. They just love unconditionally. Sir GK in Tulsa, Oklahoma, 73-73. 73. Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington, 69-96. Always good to hear from him.
Starting point is 02:29:37 Kevin McLaughlin, the Duke of Luna, is back. 606 Small Boobs, and he says, boobs, they're not just for men anymore. You know, I have to say, besides the fact that he's been donating for months, I think over a year, his writing is creative. I love it.
Starting point is 02:30:03 I love it. Well, he's the best. Speaking of writing. Scott Schreiber in Madrid, Maryland. Speaking love it. He's the best. Speaking of writing. Scott Schreiber, Madrid, Maryland. Speaking of writing, we were expecting to have some kind of write-off in the newsletter. Tina was all excited about it, and then you bogued out. It was a handwriting comparison test.
Starting point is 02:30:19 Yeah, I have to get back to the other woman. We're going to have a show. Here's where it's going to go, because I've got grandiose plans. It's going to be those two showdowns, and then the winner takes on the next person who thinks they've got good handwriting. And we go until we get a winner at the end who will be crowned handwriting champion of the No Agenda Show. And we're the judges, right?
Starting point is 02:30:41 Yeah, you and me. Yeah, cool. Okay. All right, carry on. As opposed to who? I just want to make sure we're doing it the way these things are always done. The way Taylor Swift shows. And after we get this done, that will give us the
Starting point is 02:30:53 kind of the stretching exercises necessary to do the podcasting awards. Scott Schreiber's up next. He's in Madrid, Maryland at 60. Oh, and actually he's in Madrid. It says Madrid.
Starting point is 02:31:09 Oh, no. No, Spain. It says Spain. MD, no, I'm wrong. He's in Madrid, Spain. España. Which is nice. A Baron of BNA in Nashville, Tennessee, $59.93.
Starting point is 02:31:21 Sir B. Boop, we haven't heard from him for a while, in New Brighton, Minnesota, 5678. He's in the frozen tundra. Alaa Asipov in Ormond Beach, Florida, 5555. James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, 5510. Eli the Coffee Guy in Bensonville, Illinois. Go to Gigawatt Coffee Roasters. You got to put that at the beginning so we can read it.
Starting point is 02:31:52 Anyway, yes, go to Gigawatt coffee roasters you got to put that at the beginning so we can read it yeah anyway yes go to giga gigawatt coffee roast i'm true i'm going through there i'm gonna have tell you what their best one is and they'll give you itm 20 you get 20 off 51 55 10 sir tom darian deforest wisconsin 55 10 jairus Corporation, Arlington, Virginia, 53. Sir Anonymous Cop in Redwood City, California, 5150. Christine Hines in Manchester, New Hampshire, 5123. Viscount Sir Economic Hitman in Tomball, Texas, 5001. Kelly McDill in Mission Hills, Kansas, 50. Oops! We're already to the 50s. This is a small list. But let's do a name and location. Kevin McDill in Mission Hills,
Starting point is 02:32:36 Kansas. Michelle Parrott in Salem, Oregon. Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut. Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta. Michael Thompson, New Brownfels, Texas. Philip Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky. Joan Poles in Hernando Beach, Florida. Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee. Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida. Sir Jerry Wingenroth in Saugus, California. Sir Spud the Mighty in Marietta, Georgia. Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina. Walker Phillips in San Rafael. Tony Helps in Fort Worth, Texas. William Dolgage in Bristolville, Ohio, Jason Deluzio in Miami Beach, and last but not least, our buddy Aichi Kitagawa in San Francisco. Thank you people for helping us out on show 16,
Starting point is 02:33:38 17, I think. Yes. And we got 16, 18 coming up, which is the golden ratio. We got to come up with some good ideas here for that donation. And before we continue, Karen Wiley wanted Jobs Karma for her daughter, Kat, and Sir Chris Abram of the Pike, not a spook of Arlington, also needs Jobs Karma. TPP for you guys. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs.
Starting point is 02:33:57 Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. You've got karma. Ah, the art generator just loaded. Beautiful.
Starting point is 02:34:04 And again, thank you very much to our executive and associate executive producers for supporting us here for episode 16, 17. We appreciate that. We especially want to thank everyone who came in under $50. You are appreciated. You are seen. Of course, we don't read anything under the $50 amount for reasons of anonymity. That's where you're guaranteed to stay anonymous. But we really love the sustaining donations, which you can make yourself.
Starting point is 02:34:29 You can come up with them. It can be special dollar amounts. You can determine the frequency yourself. They are very important to us for the slower days. And if you want to learn more, you can go to noagendadonations.com or devorec.org. And thank you once again for supporting us here at the Best Podcast in the Universe 1617. Agenda donations.com or vorac.org slash N A. And thank you once again for supporting us here at the best podcast in the universe.
Starting point is 02:34:48 16, 17. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. What? What? Shut up.
Starting point is 02:35:04 Shut up, Slade Shut up, Slade It's your birthday, birthday I'll know what you're doing And just like the donation shortlist today, Carolyn Hafner will be 50 tomorrow. Your hubby sent that in at the last moment. Give him an extra hug because that was quite the mission he went through to get that happening sir spooky turns 33 on the 19th and rita harry king harrington will be 66 on the 20th happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe
Starting point is 02:35:35 we congratulate mike crotch who becomes a a doctor in phd in media deconstruction today. Mike will go to no agenda rings.com to pick up his PhD. And that means we also have a one nighting to do. If you, this of course is my one nighting sword right here. And I know what I like. And Mike Roch, I want to meet your parents, Mike Roch.
Starting point is 02:36:04 Thank you very much for your super donation, and I am very proud to pronounce the KU as Double Doctor Sir Mike Roch, Baron Bull of the Lifestyle, sir, for you. And only for you. We have Eiffel Towers with high fives and twerking Russians. We've got hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, in case you want them.
Starting point is 02:36:24 We've got some redheads and rise. We've got some beer and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, in case you want them. We've got some redheads and rise. We've got some beer and blunts. We have cowgirls and coffin barners, Ruben S. Wuman and Rosé, geishas and sake, vodka manila, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts,
Starting point is 02:36:35 ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablum. And of course, to go with your twerking Russians, some mutton and meat. So you're probably already over at noagendarings.com. Thank you very much. Congratulations. I like the twerking Russians.ians some mutton and meat so you're probably already over at noagendarings.com uh thank you very much uh congratulations i like the twerking russians that's a good one
Starting point is 02:36:49 have we seen have we ever seen twerking russians i'll bet you they know look out russian dashboard cam coming the latest newest thing could be the new thing mike congratulations on your knighthood and your ph. And thank you so much. We really appreciate the support. You have offered value for value. We don't mess around. There's no paywalls, no secret levels, no premium content. No, we give all the premium stuff right up front. Do with it what you want. But if at some point you're thinking, you know, that's pretty valuable, send it back to us. talent or treasure no agenda meetups that's right the no agenda meetups this is what you need no agenda meetups it is the perfect
Starting point is 02:37:36 companion to the podcast it's also a great way to pick up some covid it's perfect if you want to get some illness go to go to a meetup because sharing is caring and connection is protection. You really need to join your community. I'm not kidding about this. It's great to be a part of the in-person No Agenda community. Lots of great meetups happening all around the world. We have two reports. This one's from Epping, New Hampshire. In the morning, this is the Epping, New Hampshire Center of the Universe No Agenda meetup. Here we are. I am not a douchebag. My name is Dave, and I just recently got my official podcasting license.
Starting point is 02:38:12 In the morning, this is Sir Pokey. First night of the 42. I love both you guys, and John, I'm still so sorry. You probably didn't get my email. Did I apologize because you blocked me, but I'm so sorry for hurting your feelings. Love you both. In the morning, this is Daniel, Sir Daniel. Oh, no, I'm not so sorry for your feelings. Love you both. In the morning, this is Daniel. Sir Daniel. Oh, no, I'm not a sir yet.
Starting point is 02:38:29 That's all I got. Thank you for your courage. This is Dame Lydia. In the morning, this is Angelica. I think there should be some kind of special group of people who you've blocked. The block club. Yes, the JCD
Starting point is 02:38:44 No Agenda Block Club. I think someone should start that. you know there should be the block club yes the the jcd no agenda block club i think you know someone should start that you know and you have to prove by showing your email let me say this let me say this let me say this before we continue why don't you say something i'm gonna say this this is bullcrap most of the people that think they've been blocked are not blocked it's the blockies there you go this is your award show the blockies the no agenda blockies award show come on down blockies what do you mean they're blocked they're blocked they're not the number of people that are blocked are very they're no half of these people that claim they're blocked they're not blocked well then what are they talking about? I have no idea. I know. I know. Your spam,
Starting point is 02:39:26 if you put the word ass, even douchebag may get kicked back. Your filters there are really tight. It's tighter than Mike Roch's. Your filters are so tight. They're so tight. Anyway, I would like to know, I think y'all should start
Starting point is 02:39:44 a club. Hashtag the blockies on no agenda social. Hashtag the blockies. And post a screenshot with the error message that shows that you were blocked. It doesn't count if you use it lewd or lascivious language. And now for the meetup report from Brooklyn. I expected no less but a full onon dynamite in your face report. No sleep till. Now we're getting people from all over the globe coming to New York City.
Starting point is 02:40:12 This issue will destroy New York City. This is Gitmo Nation's favorite shape-shifting Jew, correct the record, passing the phone around. Sir Spoonmaker here. Trains good, planes bad this is so boring stuff the web five anymore this is uh micah rock and roll from the uh brooklyn meetups great time everyone's super chill we're in new york we need more weirdos destroy new york city 17 year anniversary cut the meetup short for me we never had a fight itm this. This is David from Brooklyn in the morning. Fergus 33 here.
Starting point is 02:40:48 I'm pretty sure I'm a spoon maker. This is Dan from New Jersey in the morning. Hi, this is Marilyn. There weren't any only dudes here. Hi, this is Tanya. I'm trapped in a tent with 13 strange men. I now know how it feels to get banned from the internet. The city we knew.
Starting point is 02:41:06 We're about to lose. Thank you, Brooklyn. Brooklyn does not disappoint. Love that. Meetup's taking place today. The SXM Salt and Soda Water Meetup. That is underway now. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 02:41:20 St. Martin is probably underway now. Fat Tony's Smokehouse. Send a report, people. I want to know how that went. We have Longview's Lively Laugh Loaded Mid-Month Monthly Meetup. Thanks. That'll be in Longview, Texas. Just started 20 minutes ago at Rotolo's Pizzeria.
Starting point is 02:41:37 You can still make it. On Wednesday, the London Christmas Party. 5 o'clock at Norfolk Arms in London. WeGG is hosting that send a report. I want to hear how our London producers are doing. And the next show day, Thursday calling on North Georgia slaves, six o'clock at cherry street brewing and Alpharetta,
Starting point is 02:41:55 Georgia. And also on Thursday, the Charlotte thirsty third Thursday, seven o'clock at edge tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. There's many more on the list, including Sophia, Bulgaria, Lombok, which is next to Bali in Indonesia, Tortola, Virgin Islands, the British Virgin Islands, there's even some Texas, Albany, California, February 3rd.
Starting point is 02:42:19 That's the GetJCDOutOfTheHouse meetup. There's plenty more. All you need to do is go to noagentomeetups.com. Thank you, Sir Daniel, for your time and talent on keeping that website up and running. It's so good. It's so efficient for people to organize meetups, and everybody is welcome.
Starting point is 02:42:35 Everybody is welcome at a noagendameetup. Go ahead, say hi to some people. You'll be surprised. You'll love it. It's like eating potato chips. You can't stop once you do. On noagendameetups.com, if you can't find one near you You'll love it. It's like eating potato chips. You can't stop once you do. On NoAgendaMeetups.com if you can't find one near you, start one yourself.
Starting point is 02:42:48 It's easy. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you won't be. Drink it all hell to lame. You want to be where everybody
Starting point is 02:43:03 feels the same. It's like a party. Like a party. I'm going to have to do my ISOs first. I'm over ISOed. I'm over ISOed. You have. I got too many. About too many. I'm over
Starting point is 02:43:20 ISOed. I'm over ISOed. Alright, hit it. Those bodies are stupid. Cute. Cute, yes.. All right, hit it. All right. Those bodies are stupid. Cute. Cute, yes. Cute is exactly the right term. That means that's their ass. Okay. Right?
Starting point is 02:43:34 Right, yes. Loved it. Uh-huh. Feels so deja vu-y. I kind of like that one. I hate this. Uh-huh. Of that, I think the best is i feel so deja vu i like that one deja vu feels so deja vu because it is kind of different all right well mine are more direct
Starting point is 02:43:57 okay i mean they're designed to actually be used oh please i please. Let's start with good. The podcast is so good. Did she say podcast is so good? Yeah. A little muddy. It's too bad. It's a little muddy. The podcast is so good. Alright. Let's go with laughs and giggles.
Starting point is 02:44:21 And everyone laughs and everyone giggles. Okay, that's a good one. I like that one. Yes, I like it. And everyone giggles okay that's a good one i like that one yes i like it and then the one that's the obvious one is the is the uh good job wow good job we have a winner we have a winner we have a winner i hope you don't mind but but I think I have the story today. Are we going to have a good, you're talking about a good story. Yeah, a good news story. I think I have one. I think I have a good news story. Well, we can do a good news story showdown.
Starting point is 02:44:54 I don't know if you're going to beat mine because mine is a tearjerker. Good news, everyone. All right, we'll start with mine. We go to Nashville. This is what's left of the room where Sidney Moore was laying on top of her one-year-old, shielding him from the tornado as her four-month-old baby got sucked away and her mobile home demolished. Towering over the rubble of her mobile home and shadowing her crushed car, Sydney's kid's playpen is wrapped around a tree,
Starting point is 02:45:21 a jarring reminder of how easily the tornado tossed their four-month-old baby to the wind. The roof came off first. The tip of the tornado came down and picked up the bassinet with my baby Lord in it. And he was the first thing to go up. In his attempt to keep the bassinet inside, her boyfriend and father of her children was sucked up with it. At the same time in the back bedroom, Sydney threw her body on top of their one-year-old son, shielding him. Literally, the moment I jumped on him, the walls collapsed. I was being really crushed. Like, I couldn't breathe.
Starting point is 02:45:52 The couple frantically searched through the rubble in the pouring rain for the infant. I thought he was dead. I was pretty sure he was dead and we weren't going to be able to find him. Then, a miracle. They found baby Lord alive with just a cut on his face. And it looked like a little tree cradle. He was just laying there. The entire family survived. Now, as she walks back down to where her home used to be, Sydney's recalling how she thought this would never happen to her family.
Starting point is 02:46:22 Everything could be taken like that. The kids that she risked her life to save sleeping peacefully tonight. Those kids are what saved me. They saved me from everything. I don't know what I would have done without them. I think when you have a story
Starting point is 02:46:38 of a baby getting sucked up by a tornado, the dad getting sucked up by the tornado. What happened to him, by the way? Did he end up by a tornado. The dad getting sucked up by the tornado. What happened to him, by the way? Did he end up in a tree? We didn't even know the baby did. The kid's name is Lord.
Starting point is 02:46:56 I mean, this has good news written all over it, and it was one minute and 30 seconds. Yeah, well, I like the time. Mine's too long, but mine's more of a tear. Also, it not only has good news written all over it, it has hoax written all over it. It wouldn't have said that if maybe it was the
Starting point is 02:47:13 Lord in there. That was the me, check mark, hoax. What do we want? Good news. When do we want it? Now, please. Hidden in the crevices of a canyon county ridge a missing woman's life was left up to eddie now we're doing this and chase that dude's crazy work partners and hunters we don't come out here in the winter there's no reason for us
Starting point is 02:47:38 suicides to look and they couldn't believe what there's a car down here or who right down in the little crevice they'd found in the corner in the tumbleweeds. And we climbed down, a little investigation in the car, and that's when we found Penny's information. I put Penny's name, Penny K. Clark, in on Facebook. And that's when it popped up. A 72-year-old woman having no recent contact with her family. Kenyon County Sheriff Kieran Donahue had already been looking for Penny. No one would
Starting point is 02:48:05 have looked here, really. There'd be no reason to look here. No reason to be there at all. So we were, I mean, out under those clouds and we decided to just make a random turn and get out, come back out this way. And this is where we ended up. Eddie and Chase called 911, explaining the car, the crash, the scene. And then one of the officers looks past the car with the binoculars and sees part of her and sees her moving her extremities. You know, me and Chase were in the truck filling out reports, and one of the cops yelled, Penny!
Starting point is 02:48:38 Good Lord, not only have we found her, she's still alive. With help from Idaho Mountain Search and Rescue, they trekked Penny off the ridge and flew her to a nearby hospital. No broken bones, you know, she was just cold, hungry, and tired, and I can't say enough what a miracle that is, you know. In my experience, this is a less than one percent chance of surviving this. God had a different plan. Multiple agencies coordinated the rescue,
Starting point is 02:49:09 but the highest-ranking law enforcement officer in the county knows where to direct praise. They're the true heroes here. They really are. They're the ones that saved this woman's life. But Eddie and Chase? And just... They don't need the credit. I don't know. Kind of lost for words. They already got the payment
Starting point is 02:49:26 of a lifetime and penny's daughter arrived on scene when penny got down to the ambulance she said i never thought listening to my mom snore in a hospital bed would be the best christmas present you know to receive and i hope your christ your Christmas is just as special as this. It really hit home. All right. You get a point for the Christmas message. The length is too long. It's disqualified. Disqualified.
Starting point is 02:49:54 It disqualifies. I have. Too long. It was 240. I couldn't cut it. I tried to get under two. It was ages. I agree.
Starting point is 02:50:03 It's too long, but it it had it flowed so well with this lost penny these two doofuses yes this is a hoax they just happen to be out there yours is a hoax they're hiking with a helicopter sure yeah that's what i do oh let's hop in the chopper it's ageist 72 what you're not dead at 72. Like, oh, she's 72. Okay, all right. We'll just call it a draw. No! No!
Starting point is 02:50:31 You're not getting a win for that. I'm going to use the Lord from JCD. Happy vibes for you and me. And we all feel better now he's done his bit. So back to reality. That's turning to shit all right we'll call it no winner no winner although i think getting sucked up by a tornado your kid's name if they had thrown a christmas vibe in there like just in time for christmas baby lord is is safe that would have been a winner i mean this just there's no two ways about it
Starting point is 02:51:01 is safe, that would have been a winner. I mean, there's no two ways about it. I reserve judgment on the sucked up by a tornado story. Do you have a... And the husband too, I guess. There he goes. We never heard from him again. He's still in the sky. It's iffy what happened there.
Starting point is 02:51:24 Let's see. We probably should play... probably should by the way you know people who've ever been in a tornado where they've been actually outside they say that they've all reported kind of the same thing you are head to toe covered with splinters yeah it could be yeah well baby lord only had a scratch it was amazing only. Yeah, he only had a scratch. There's another thing that bothers me. I have two AI clips, if you want, that we could end with. Or do you have something that you'd like to end with? No, I guess this stuff can be moved.
Starting point is 02:51:57 I don't have anything that's critical. AI is great. We haven't talked about AI for weeks. Yeah, I was missing my AI stories. Well, this was on CNN. It was rather peculiar because they're anti-AI. I don't really... As well they should be with channel1.ai coming down the pike.
Starting point is 02:52:24 Maybe that's why they did this particular story. AI is the life work of Georgia Tech professor and researcher Matthew Gombelay. It's not ready for deployment. It's not a product yet. So do you think it should be used by police departments? Certainly not. A report by Georgetown Law estimates that as of 2016, one in two American adults is in a law enforcement face recognition network. And it can happen without your consent or knowledge. This technology is not accurate for
Starting point is 02:52:50 the way it's being used. When you ask a question like, is this person's face match up with a fugitive? You can have a 99.7% accuracy. That sounds really good. That sounds really good. You can have a 99.7% accuracy rating. That sounds really good. That sounds really good. But what if you ask that same question 300 million times? You deploy these things at scale at a population level, you're going to get a tremendous number of false positives. Depending on your race, that accuracy drops even more. A 2019 U.S. government study of 200 facial recognition algorithms found some of them up to a hundred times more likely to
Starting point is 02:53:25 misidentify people of color compared to white people. Gombale put the tech to the test. We will see what happens. Using pictures of CNN journalists, plus these Georgia Tech researchers, he created a virtual lineup and told the AI to identify my face. It works. Some of the time, though, it says no face. Some of it like here, it just thought that you were Victor Blackwell. It thought that I was Victor Blackwell. Yes. Victor Blackwell is a black man. Yes. What does that say? That says that these algorithms are not ready for prime time. And building the algorithm, you can teach the AI to be racist. Yes. You can absolutely teach the algorithm to be racist. The algorithm doesn't care.
Starting point is 02:54:04 The algorithm just wants to do a good job at the task you've given it. And in this case... You're telling it that if you're black, you're more likely to have committed the crime. Yes, that's the data that you fit in. That's the part that I liked about the story. What bull crap. Of course it's bull crap. You can teach the AI to be racist.
Starting point is 02:54:23 Oh, yeah. So it showed a black man because he's more likely to have committed the crime i mean i'm anti-ai but even i'm not buying that bullcrap no this is bad that was a bad report it was a great report you're talking about shows that this is all bull okay all right all. All right. All right. Do you have anything better? I can tell you this. I mean, I went through these facial recognition systems years ago, over 12 years ago. It's not even AI.
Starting point is 02:54:55 They worked great. And they had nothing to do with AI. No, they don't. I got someone telling me AI can't do math because it's a large language model. Well, dude, someone needs to work on the marketing because these things are being sold as the next best thing since sliced bread, and they're not. AI winter's coming.
Starting point is 02:55:17 It's coming. At least you stick to your thesis. That's good. AI winter is coming. Billions of dollars. It's next up. We all know what it's going to be. Quantum computing.
Starting point is 02:55:28 It happened before quantum computing is a dead end. Yeah, well, they need something to prop up the stock market. Coming up next on KnowAgendaStream.com, we have, oh, the airline pilot guide. We haven't heard from him in a while. No, that's good. That's a good show. No, it's a very good show. It's a very good show. It's one of the better aviation podcasts
Starting point is 02:55:48 out there. If you're at Trollroom.io you can listen in and use the modern podcast app as well. I have a Christmas end of show mix for you. You'll love it. We have Leo Lepuke. Actually, the end of show mix which you played earlier is Dynamite. We have Sir Chris Wilson
Starting point is 02:56:04 and Matty J. And this will get you in the mood for Christmas, I guarantee you. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, in FEMA Region No. 6, in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's raining. It's about time. I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday, which will be the 21st.
Starting point is 02:56:28 Count it down to Christmas. We'll be working on Christmas Eve as well. We love it. It's what we do. Time, talent, treasure. Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until Thursday, everybody, adios, mofosa, hooey, hooey, and such. Father Christmas.
Starting point is 02:56:42 A debate about the gender of Santa Claus has now broke out on Facebook after a mother in England that she had been shamed for not using a gender neutral name for Santa Claus. The mother claimed in the viral post that she had been attacked for using the name Father Christmas to describe the bearded character. This caused everybody in the Facebook group to completely erupt and explode on her. How dare you refer to Santa Claus as Father Christmas? How dare you? Because they think a big fat man with a long white curly beard might be a chick. They might want to date that chick.
Starting point is 02:57:20 You have stolen my childhood. Father Christmas is not being very nice to me. Father Christmas. Punch him. Father Christmas. Punch his beard off. Father Christmas. Person Christmas, I thought they're suggesting.
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Starting point is 02:58:23 anal leakage and keep your amygdala small, firm, and round, donate to KnowAgenda. Your service code will thank you. Here he comes now, the big ham. Christmas, 1941. The weeks after Pearl Harbor. Franklin Delano Roosevelt hosted Luther Churchill
Starting point is 02:58:50 in this White House. Together they planned the most terrible year of years. Year of assassination, the ride of war and chaos. Still today in our own time, our own lives. So this Christmas,
Starting point is 02:59:04 let's spread a little poison. The pandemic has taken so much from us. We've lost hope, love, peace, and joy. No peace at all. I hope this Christmas season marks a fresh start for our nation. We've infected our politics and set us against one another. We see each other as enemies, not as neighbors. As Democrats and Republicans, not as fellow Americans.
Starting point is 02:59:27 So angry, so mean, so partisan. Great pain and terrible loneliness all across the country. Over a million lives lost in America alone. Whether a Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist. That's a million empty chairs. You know, I believe Christmas is a season of breaking hearts and homes all across the country. He's Mr. Snow. He's Mr. Snow.
Starting point is 02:59:56 He's Mr. Snow. He's Mr. Snow. There's hundreds. Smoking anything that remotely resembles crack cocaine. 13 days without sleeping. Too much. Too much. Don't trust China.
Starting point is 03:00:19 China is asshole. Don't trust China. China is asshole. China won For Christmas The United States The United States China is asshole
Starting point is 03:00:32 China won For Christmas The United States The United States The United States The United States The United States Why would I be talking about Winnie the Pooh so much?
Starting point is 03:00:43 Winnie the Pooh is constantly being banned in China. And that's because the leader, Xi Jinping, is very sensitive and he doesn't like the fact that people compare him to Winnie the Pooh. China is asshole. China won. For Christmas. The United States. The United States. China is asshole! China wants the United States. The United States. The United States. The United States.
Starting point is 03:01:11 The United States. Don't trust China! China is asshole! Don't trust China! China is asshole! the best podcast in the universe adios mofo devorah.org slash n a
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