No Agenda - 1635 - "Munich Meetup"

Starting point is 00:00:00 You're talking to me about this EPA that's supposed to be clamping down on everything and is causing nothing but regulatory problems for the small farmers of the world? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, February 18, 2024. This is your award-winning Cuban Nation Media Assassination Episode 1635. This is no agenda. Renewing your mind and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6.

Starting point is 00:00:26 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all being pounded by climate change, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Greg Blatt and Buzzkill in the morning. Oh, no, you're being pounded, pounded by climate change. What's going on? Yeah, I'm being pounded. What was it? It's just, it rained last night. It's windy now. What's going on? Yeah, I'm being pounded. What was it? It's just, it rained last night. It's windy now.

Starting point is 00:00:47 It's going to rain about, when the show ends, it's going to start raining again. Has your mom? And you know, this is a big, this is a big deal because. I can hear the branches against your window again. Yeah. That's annoying. It's very annoying that it happens. If it's annoying to you you can imagine

Starting point is 00:01:05 what i think yes uh meanwhile of course the i'm not black so i don't really have the full impact do i do you have that clip of course i do oh good i have a good climate blacks this was quite unbelievable. This is Rachel Levine, by the way. This is a dude pretending to be a woman in an army skirt. Hello, I'm Admiral Rachel Levine. This Black History Month, I'm pleased to partner with OMH in advancing better health through better understanding for black communities. Climate change is having a disproportionate effect on the physical and mental health for black communities. Climate change is having a disproportionate effect on the physical and mental health of black communities.

Starting point is 00:01:49 Black Americans are more likely than white Americans to live in areas and housing that increase their susceptibility to climate-related health issues. And 65% of black Americans report feeling anxious about climate change's impact. Through our Office of Climate Change and Health Equity and the Office of Environmental Justice, we're working with providers and community leaders

Starting point is 00:02:11 to identify innovative approaches that empower communities to address the health consequences linked to climate change. Visit HHS.gov for more information and tune in next Thursday to hear from another HHS leader and how you can contribute to advancing better health for black communities. Hold on a second. Hey, Mo. Hey, Mo, you OK? Just got to check out Mo, you know, because the climate change might be hurting my buddy Mo.

Starting point is 00:02:37 Oh, yeah. There's a black family that lives down the hill and it's raining on them right now. It's not raining on you, only on them. Yeah, it's weird. Well, if you thought that. Yeah, it's weird. Well, if you thought that was weird, how's your money doing? Did your money change with this climate change? Has something happened to your financials?

Starting point is 00:02:54 Probably. Here's a dude in a dress. Tonight. I'm sorry. I set it up so perfectly. Here's a dude in a dress in Europe. Floods, droughts and wildfires last year were just a preview of what is to come. A hotter climate and nature loss are changing our economy and our financial system.

Starting point is 00:03:28 At the ECB, we must understand this change to ensure financial stability and to fulfill our price stability mandate. With our new climate and nature plan, we focus on the following three things. First, the green transition. Second, the growing physical impact of climate change. And third, the risks from nature loss and degradation. Thank you. footprint in everything we do from banknotes to how we supervise banks climate change is is blowing the banknotes away cbdc incoming europe get ready for it this is so absurd and it seems like it's it's putting dudes in dresses that seems to be the worst thing that's going on here. It's very strange. It's very strange.

Starting point is 00:04:31 I mean, of course, everyone saw the video of Admiral... What is it? Admiral Levine? What's her name? Admiral Levine. Admiral Levine. I mean, I don't know. My brain still can't get used to it. I'm sorry.

Starting point is 00:04:43 And then what's coming out of this person's mouth is just what are you talking about well i have a series of clips if you want to start with since we're on climate change well i need to say something important first of all just so everybody knows you've probably seen the video yes indeed we are actually two golden retrievers podcasting from a snowy mountaintop i just want everyone to understand that's us. I have not seen this video. Oh, you didn't hear about Sora? Sora?

Starting point is 00:05:13 No. Sora from OpenAI. It's changed. The movie business will be bankrupt in five years. Huh? You just type in a prompt and it does a video. So there's like three examples. You've seen it.

Starting point is 00:05:26 Comic strip bloggers all over. Dude with red wool knit hat is space helmet. You haven't seen that either. What do you do in between shows? I'm not dealing with AI. Okay. I'm getting clips like this series of clips about the first time PBS on a Saturday, of course, decides to finally do a wrap of the farmers protests. Oh, the ones in Europe.

Starting point is 00:05:50 You're kidding me. All about. Yes. Yeah, I know. I said, oh, all about. It's all about climate change. And here we go with the farmer rap one. Quiet fields to busy city streets.

Starting point is 00:06:02 Farmers around the world have launched protests in recent weeks. They're demanding relief from what they say is a crisis. Ali Rogin reports on what's driving these protests and what it means for food supply and climate policy. They come in convoys of tractors armed with the fruits, bread, even the livestock of their labor. From Italy to India, farmers are taking to the streets, sometimes facing violence, sometimes causing it. Protesting policies they say kill their livelihoods. Agriculture has been on its knees for a long time and we have reached the end of our rope. In fact, farmers in dozens of countries on six continents have been staging protests since 2021.

Starting point is 00:06:55 This year, most protests have been in European countries and India. The grievances vary by country, but there's one common message. Farmers can no longer bear the burden of economic and climate policies. There's a sense of a rupture in the social contract between farmers and their governments oh at least they're on that's a pretty honest assessment the climate yeah policy that was good yeah yeah okay i'll take that from pbs way to go pbs three more clips i'm sure they can screw it up somewhere well there's a little guy there's a funny little thing in there that i thought was interesting i don't know if you'll catch it when it goes by because i didn't catch it till the second time but uh you'll it's it's it coincides

Starting point is 00:07:36 with a lot of these protests too so let's go with part two danielle resnick is a senior research fellow at the international food policy research institute in EU, it's a sense that farmers are being forced to unfairly bear the burden of a lot of the EU regulations to meet climate emission targets. In India, there's a sense that farmers are overburdened. They're worried about various shocks, including climate shocks, and they want some type of social protection. In Europe, those regulations include limits on pesticides and the amount of land they can harvest annually. Farmers there also worry about competition from abroad and Ukraine, which has temporary tariff-free access to EU markets.

Starting point is 00:08:19 Stop grain from Ukraine. Stop the Green Deal. Stop deciding about our land. In India, farmers want Prime Minister Narendra Modi to expand a longstanding policy of setting minimum prices for certain crops. In 2021, Modi tried but failed to scrap the policy following an earlier round of protests. Farmers have been marching from the north where the protests began to the capital, but police and soldiers have blocked their way. It's not about whether we go to Delhi or not. We have not come here to clash with our soldiers. We just want our demands met for a law regarding the implementation of the minimum support price.

Starting point is 00:09:03 Experts say the protests are politically timed. Both the Indian and European Parliament elections are set for this spring. I think farmers unions are being politically savvy in some ways and trying to get their issues on the top of the political agenda. Even though we think of them as kind of small scale farmers, they are pretty politically powerful powerful i don't like that they pivot to india all of a sudden it's annoying well india has fairly similar protests but their protests are based on the fact that they've it's different yeah they theirs is based on the fact that the modi has decided because he thinks of himself as a capitalist, to pull the rug out from under the price fixing, which has been a tradition there.

Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah, but that's not the same as climate policies, where you can't have as many cows and you can't use fertilizer. I like the U-Grain as a brand, by the way. Y-O-U-G-R-A-I-N, U-Grain. I like the name. It's a brand. Yeah. But I think no grain from Ukraine is an interesting little problem they've got there, too.

Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah, it's a good slogan. Because the Ukrainians, which is a huge producer of agricultural products, they traditionally ship the grain that they make to Africa. Yes. Screw those people. Because of the blockades and whatever. The Russians are almost behind the whole thing. Of course. It's fascinating.

Starting point is 00:10:32 Anyway, next clip. And ahead of the votes, leaders seem to be listening to the farmers. France scrapped a plan to end tax breaks for tractor diesel. And the EU abandoned a plan to reduce pesticide use and postponed a deadline for farmers to leave some land fallow to improve biodiversity. It also omitted farmers from a recommendation to reduce greenhouse gases by 90% by 2040. Farmers need a worthwhile business case for nature-enhancing measures. Perhaps we have not made that case convincingly. Nature-enhancing.

Starting point is 00:11:14 But many stakeholders, like some European moderates and environmentalists, believe politicians are caving to farmers to prevent them from deepening alliances from far-right groups who've taken up their cause. And they note that agriculture is a major driver of climate change, accounting for more than 10 percent of the EU's total greenhouse gases. I think an attack of the green agenda is seen as really an opportunity for right-wing parties to gain more seats in the parliament at the expense of green parties. They see this as an opportunity to really mobilize on grievances to perhaps forward their own agenda around migration policies and other types of nativist policies that would resonate with some

Starting point is 00:11:59 of EU farmers' concerns. These people are going to be so hungry because you know the summer of pork is coming lady the summer of chinese poor looking you were looking for the pbs screw up angle there there was yeah no kidding it was oh yeah right it's right wing yes okay we are starving to death it's right wing conspiracy yeah again they'll just use people starving uh you know to to promote uh migration no okay i got it i got it i think there's one yes there is one but some experts say leaders must find ways to make the transition less burdensome for farmers and the entire system they represent most of the world's food is produced by small farms family farms and they're the ones who don't have the depth, the financial depth

Starting point is 00:12:45 and the resources to really shoulder this burden in the way that they're being asked to. They are being asked to adjust to environmental regulations in a fast period of time. Chris Hagedorn is a professor of global food politics at Sciences Po in Paris. This is where governments can step in and start spending money differently to address the cost, not only to these farmers, but the cost that we're seeing from environmental damage, climate change, temperature increases, violent weather increases. After all, as the protesters' signs say, without farmers, there is no food. Protesters signed say, without farmers, there is no food.

Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Without farmers, there is no food. But it's just lip service. They don't care. They're going to care when they get their food. Summer of pork.

Starting point is 00:13:41 Well, this kind of goes along with this breaking story, which we still have to figure out. Who is this a hit job on other than General Mills. This morning, a first-of-its-kind study has discovered a little-known pesticide is present in some common breakfast foods. Chloroquat itself as a chemical can be harmful if you're exposed to a large amount of it. A nonprofit called the Environmental Working Group studied chloroquat. In the U.S., the chemical is only allowed on ornamental plants, but the EPA allows it to be used on imported oats and other food. The study found 90% of food items tested contained chloroquat, including Quaker oats and Cheerios.

Starting point is 00:14:16 And most Americans in a small group tested positive for it. Previous research on animals found the chemical can damage reproductive systems and disrupt fetal growth. And that gives us concern for how this chemical might also impact human health. It's important to note it's not yet known how Clomacot may affect humans. And doctors say with its relatively small sample size, this study

Starting point is 00:14:37 should not cause any panic. So we do need to take this with a big asterisk that it's not necessarily generalizable to a large population. And we don't yet know what the implications are for humans. So what's the takeaway? Doctors say there's no need to drastically change your eating habits or to strictly buy organic. Organic foods, by definition, don't contain pesticides. But I don't want people out there to think that organic necessarily always means healthier and they they have to do that, or they're doing a disservice

Starting point is 00:15:06 to their family. This guy should lay off the soy. You can still find nutritious foods that are not organic. It's just about knowing exactly what you're eating and making an individualized and powered-up choice. The group that conducted the study is asking the government to mandate more testing.

Starting point is 00:15:22 Meanwhile, the food companies have insisted their products meet all regulatory requirements. Now, this Clormaquat... Clormaquat? I used to work with a chemical... Yeah, here we go. This is why I love you.

Starting point is 00:15:37 You've got some chemical angle. Chevron Oil Refinery, there was a product they made called Paraquat, which was used, I think Paraquat was used. I can't remember the details, but I think it was used everywhere. I think it was a fungicide. Welcome to Quat Talk, baby, ladies and gentlemen.

Starting point is 00:15:53 It's a fungicide. So this has to be some sort of derivative of that, and it has to be some sort of a fungicide. I'm guessing it's a fungicide of some sort to keep fungi from getting on the oats. I have a follow-up clip that kind of explains what it is. You want to listen to that? Yes, I would like that. EWG's research on pesticides has always been about letting people know. By the way,

Starting point is 00:16:13 this is produced. It's got music. It's annoying. That means something's up. I personally think it's just to get us to use cricket flour, but we'll see. EWG's research on pesticides has always been about letting people know what they can be exposed to through the foods that they're eating. When I first heard my colleagues tell me they found chlormaquat in the foods that they had tested, I said, what's chlormaquat?

Starting point is 00:16:35 Not like a boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I hate this. Chlormaquat is a new chemical in the U.S. food supply. It is used primarily on grain crops like oats and wheat. Once we learned that the EPA had essentially started allowing chloroquat on oat-based products that were being imported into the U.S., we decided to test them. All right, so then they go on and on. This is produced. It's a hit piece for some reason, but it's a new chemical. It's probably what the chemtrails are full of. What else is supposed to be used for fancy plants, for decorative plants?

Starting point is 00:17:16 Not on your food, but they specifically call out Quaker oats and Cheerios, which I think are both General Mills products. Yes. So there's something up with that. Well, I still would like to know what the clip, I don't know what's on there, but the clip didn't tell me what it's for. When we tested those products, we found Chlor-Miquat in over 90% of those samples. That was samples like cereals, breakfast bars, snack bars,

Starting point is 00:17:43 really common foods that people are eating every day. EWG's toxicologists looked at the chemistry of this particular chemical and were alarmed. Chloroquat causes really concerning health effects in animal studies. It harms the reproductive system and it can disrupt fetal growth. And that gives us concern for how this chemical might also impact human health. Oh, maybe this is why we're not making babies. I know, I know. Once we knew it was really prevalent in the food supply...

Starting point is 00:18:09 What kind of report is this? Well, it's from the Chloroquat test. Who, what, when, where, why? What is it used for? She said it in the beginning. EWG's research on pesticides has always been about letting people know what they can be exposed to through the food.

Starting point is 00:18:23 Found Chloroquat in the food... Somewhere it said it. Hold on a second. Through the food. Found a clormaquat in the food. Somewhere it said it. Hold on a second. In the food supply, the next question was, our study is published and tested the urine of about, expected to find a little bit of clormaquat. Look, clormaquat is used to kill people. That's obvious.

Starting point is 00:18:37 There's no other reason for it. We can, how about this? Consult the book of knowledge. Clormaquat. There's a clormaquat? Yeah, with a knowledge. Chloroquat. That's a chloroquat? Yeah, with a Q. Chloroquat. Q?

Starting point is 00:18:49 Yes, C-H-L-O-R-Q-U-A-T, but chloroquat. Chloroquat is an organic compound that is used as a plant growth regulator. Oh, it's a hormone blocker. It's a hormone blocker. It's typically sold as the chloride salt, chloroquat chloride, a colorless, hydroscopic, crystalline substance that is soluble in water and ethanol.

Starting point is 00:19:17 It is an alkylating agent and a quaternary ammonium salt. So it can cause stem thickening, reduced stem height, additional root development plants dwarfing this this doesn't sound good when do they use it again i'm asking what would whether they use it they're using it to sort of a plant growth regulator stronger here it is in the united states chloromiquat is classified as a low risk plant growth regulator and is registered for use on ornamental plants grown in greenhouses, nurseries, and shade houses. It is not approved, it says here in the Wikipedia,

Starting point is 00:19:53 for use on crops intended for animal or human consumption. Hmm. Oh, wait. In April 2023, the Biden administration's EPA proposed allowing the use of the chemical for the first time. You're talking to me about this EPA that's supposed to be clamping down on everything and it's causing nothing but regulatory problems for the small farmers of the world? Correct.

Starting point is 00:20:15 But yet they let this slide? Yeah. Well, I think this is not just letting it slide. This is intentional humicide. This is genocide. This is Genocide Joe at work. Genocide Joe? Yeah, he's trying to kill us.

Starting point is 00:20:30 This doesn't sound good. Why would you even want this? I mean, it just makes your stem thick. Well, for wheat, I guess it gets sort of blowing over because of the wind of the climate change. I guess it gets sort of blowing over because of the wind of the climate change. Oh, in 2018, the Trump administration EPA loosens regulations to allow the importation of foods from countries that permit chloroquat to be used on food crops. And in 2020, that allowable amount was increased. Isn't that nice?

Starting point is 00:21:07 Wait a minute, you're telling me, where's this food coming from china china the eu is all uptight about using anything like this this can't be eu policy no no i don't think so it's uh i don't let me see if there's anything africa south america mexico i don't know i'm getting closer but i don't see why they need to use it at all. It doesn't seem like it's It doesn't make sense. Unless they have some very specific reason. It's got to be in the literature. It can cause stem thickening, reduced stem height, additional root development,

Starting point is 00:21:36 plant dwarfing, and increase chlorophyll concentration. And you grow a third... Here's an Oregon State University. This is bad. This is bad.

Starting point is 00:21:53 You shouldn't be eating that stuff anyway. Cheerios. Cheerios. Don't eat Cheerios. Give your kids some bacon and eggs. Cheerios. With some sugar. Get your start off right.

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Starting point is 00:22:41 Chlor... all right i'm gonna move on because uh a blogger died suddenly big news a blogger and lawyer turned opposition politician and anti-corruption campaigner alexei navalny was a menace for the kremlin who was not afraid to call president putin out directly a retrial in 2017 prevented him from running for office, this time for president against Vladimir Putin. That same year, he was attacked with a green antiseptic fluid. It caused him damage in the vision of his right eye and temporarily dyed his skin green.

Starting point is 00:23:24 In August 2020, on a flight from Tomsk... Best Nat Pop ever. Let's do that one again. ...his skin green. In August 2020, on a flight from Tomsk to Moscow, Navalny fell seriously ill. An emergency diversion by the plane's pilot appears to have saved his life. Amid an international outcry, he was allowed to fly for treatment to Germany,

Starting point is 00:23:50 where it was discovered he'd been poisoned with Novichok, a chemical nerve agent. But an assassination attempt and a medically induced coma didn't deter Navalny from taking his fight to a higher level. deter Navalny from taking his fight to a higher level. Whilst recovering in Germany, he conducted a sting operation against an FSB agent, convincing the operative to detail in a phone call how the Novichok was used against him. That was then broadcast on his YouTube channel. Shortly after, he released a video offering Russians a look at what his team called Putin's palace, a mansion by the Black Sea estimated to be worth more than a billion dollars. President Putin denied the palace belongs to him or his family members.

Starting point is 00:24:37 January 2021, Navalny returned to Moscow after receiving life-saving treatment in Germany. He was immediately arrested for violating probation terms imposed from a 2014 case and sent to a penal colony where he went on hunger strike. Okay, now we both have clips on this. The beauty of this particular event, of course, if the guy's really dead, there's still no actual confirmation from the family as of showtime that is in fact i have the clip for that you just won't let me go okay which clip is it you're gonna go where which which clip you got we'll play it well good question okay well you're looking that up so we still don't actually know that it's happened,

Starting point is 00:25:26 but there's a few things that have started. First of all, we've gone from died suddenly to drop dead suddenly. Now, we don't want to confuse the people out there. So the M5M has decided instead of using the died suddenly, which has been in the news for three years, people, so-and-so died suddenly, died suddenly died suddenly no no with him it's dropped dead suddenly that's well you died suddenly refers to vaxes well and of course the since he looked so great just a couple days ago when he was doing some legal thing, which no one can explain either. Or show. And he was walking outside.

Starting point is 00:26:06 He went for a stroll in this horrible penal colony, which looks like a quaint little kind of Swiss chalet village. At least that's what they're showing on the news. So in this penal colony, you can just walk around? Here's the Volny PBS clip. Okay, there we go. Now that the mother of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny has been formally notified of her son's death, she's pressing for details of how the 47-year-old died in a remote penal colony in the Arctic. In hopes of seeing her son's body, Lyudmila Navalnaya and Navalny's lawyer went to the morgue where she was told he had been taken.

Starting point is 00:26:46 But once they got there, the facility was closed. She wants his remains handed over for burial. Russia says that won't happen until its investigation is over. There's no official cause of death. Navalny's lawyer says he was murdered. In Moscow, Navalny's supporters risked arrest to lay flowers at a memorial to him at a monument for victims of Soviet era purges. Since word of Navalny's death, Russian police have arrested more than 300 people

Starting point is 00:27:11 across the country. I want to play a couple of clips. First, we'll start with the BBC. They always give us a fair and balanced account because what are the chances? Isn't it amazing this happens right on day two of the Munich Security Conference? Oh, the mood was absolutely electric. The news. Now, listen, this, by the way, this Munich Security Conference is like the Oscars for war guys and gals. I mean, they get all in their uniforms. They're in their spiffies. They got the limos.

Starting point is 00:27:48 They got the lights. The mood was electrifying. Oh, the mood. On the red carpet. The mood. It was absolutely electric. The news that Navalny was dead just shot like a bolt of electricity through the Munich Security Conference. Just at that moment in the

Starting point is 00:28:05 morning where the limousines were arriving there was a hubbub the grand hotel where the conference takes place was filling up with defense chiefs top diplomats presidents and hookers I mean this is kings many of them old friends and then all of a sudden this came out of the blue so many were reeling. If they didn't know Navalny, they knew. These are people who send kids to war. They weren't reeling.

Starting point is 00:28:31 They weren't reeling. They weren't reeling. Oh, swoon. Oh, my God. Hold me before I pass out. In the comments of Radek Sikorsky, many leaders had come to this conference already deeply worried about Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine,

Starting point is 00:28:46 worrying about the Ukraine war and the need to keep supporting Ukrainian forces, worried too about the Gaza war. There were many dark clouds and then suddenly this one came and blotted out everything else. There were many dark clouds on the red carpet at the Grand Hotel of the Munich Security Conference, but this one came out and there was no sunshine available. But to a person, whether it was Jens Stoltenberg, the NATO Secretary General, saying Russia has a lot of questions to answer. We went to see Lord Cameron, the British Foreign Secretary, blaming Vladimir Putin personally. Of course. But the moment which will go down in history, which stunned the hall when Yulia Navalny was known she was at the conference somewhere.

Starting point is 00:29:30 Everyone asked, where was she? What a coincidence. His wife is there at the conference. I mean, of course, if you have a blogger who's in a penal colony, you want to have her at a war conference. That makes so much sense. I thought she was scrounging around up in the Urals or wherever they held Siberia, trying to get into the mortuary. How did she get over to the

Starting point is 00:29:53 conference so quick? She was in the speaker suite. Yulia Navalny was known. She was at the conference somewhere. Everyone asked, where was she? We saw her going through the main door and onto the, not just the stage, but a world stage. So calm, so composed at a moment of her greatest grief. Don't say that.

Starting point is 00:30:15 Now, there's also, and so what I love about the Munich Security Conference, everybody's there. Everybody's got something to say. So I have two clips. The first one is from former u.s commander ben hodges and he kind of lays it all out you know what uh was the first thought that crossed your mind when you heard by the way he's like this is dumb german television i don't have to be careful what i say it's not like some podcasters in America are going to pick it up. Today about Navalny's death. I thought about his wife.

Starting point is 00:30:47 He has a family. And I was reminded that authoritarians are scared of their own people. That's why they lock up protesters, opponents. You mean like January 6th? And still the timing is suspicious. The news broke. I love how it's still the timing is suspicious. This is the Deutsche Welle lady. It's suspicious that this happened during the Munich security conference, don't you think?

Starting point is 00:31:20 It's suspicious. The news broke today, shortly before the start of the security conference here in Munich. Is that Putin sending a message? Of course, I don't know. I haven't seen the autopsy yet, and we don't know all the facts of his death. My assumption was, of course, that this is a result of the poisoning that happened one or two years ago. When he took the Pfizer vaccine. The treatment, terrible treatment and conditions in which he's been living. So what contributed to his death? I don't think it was like today he was killed. I think today he died from treatment or terrible treatment and poisoning.

Starting point is 00:31:59 And today is when it happened. I don't know that the timing was planned that way. Wrong answer. Wrong answer. Wrong answer, General. Get out of here. You're no good. Let's go to Bill Browder. No one hates Putin more than Bill Browder, who got screwed out of money,

Starting point is 00:32:16 screwed out of the country. He got screwed. And why is he at the Munich Security Conference? Why is anybody there? This whole thing is a joke, but I have my own clip. Hold on. Let me play Browder. Is he also sending a message to the international community?

Starting point is 00:32:32 You're at the Munich Security Conference. The Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelensky, yesterday implied that it's not a coincidence that Navalny's death was announced on the first day of the conference. Do you think Putin is sending a message to the community too? And if so, to what purpose? Well, it's not exactly clear what the timing is, but it is actually very coincidental that all of the major world leaders are here at the Munich Security Conference right now

Starting point is 00:33:00 at the moment that Alexei Navalny was murdered by Putin. And so one theory is that after the war started, after Putin invaded Ukraine, the Munich Security Conference didn't allow Russian officials to come here anymore. And so this is a way for Putin to effectively troll the entire world, even though he's not here in person along with his... I know. I will troll everybody. I will live in their along with his i know i will i will troll everybody i will live in their head rent free i will kill him entourage um by killing alexei navalny putin is in

Starting point is 00:33:32 the head of every single person at this conference all through the weekend and so um this is his way of saying um you might be able to disinvite me but i don't care i'm still in your head oh my god he's so ruthless. Now, before you play your clips, I have an observation and one more because Hillary Clinton was at the Munich Security Conference. Of course she was. This is weird.

Starting point is 00:33:54 They all have these, it looks like a sheriff's badge that they're wearing on their lapels. It's big. It's the size of a sheriff's badge. It has a star in the middle it has a ukrainian and a u.s flag on it it looks like they've all been deputized it's the weirdest thing if you get a close-up of it it's literally like i i'm a deputy of

Starting point is 00:34:17 sheriff zelensky and of course christiana amanpour is there to talk to her bud hillary on the street secretary of state hillary Hillary Clinton is joining me. And you very quickly tweeted, Madam Secretary, thank you for being with us on this day. You know, your condolences, not only to his family and friends and his staff, but to the people of Russia. You were sending a message. I was, Christiana. You know, I've gotten to know Navalny's wife and daughter. I've gotten to work with a number of the people who have been around him exposing corruption,

Starting point is 00:34:52 putting together an opposition agenda to Putin. And it was so tragic to hear that he's been killed. And there's no doubt in my mind, and I know President Biden just made a statement based on the intelligence available to our government, that his death is a result of Putin's brutality. And it is a tragedy for Russia that someone who was willing to stand up and speak out and really represent a different future for Russia should be killed. And you probably have heard that... Wait a minute, what did she just say? I want to hear that again.

Starting point is 00:35:35 And really represent a different future for Russia should be killed. Now she's saying he was killed. And you probably have heard that he was actually on video yesterday from the prison doing some kind of a legal appearance. He looked healthy. He was his usual kind of confident, joke-cracking self. In fact, his wife and others who saw that video yesterday were quite reassured that he was OK. And then we get this terrible news today. Yeah, this is all very, very sketchy.

Starting point is 00:36:11 I don't even know if he's actually dead. We don't have proof. The mom hasn't been able to find his body. We don't have any proof. This is just as of yesterday. It's just all hearsay as far as I'm concerned. It's a dark cloud over the munich security conference the hookers prices went down no one was in the mood the dark cloud means they went up no one was in the mood no no no no one was in the mood all right if you got a couple clips yeah i have a bunch of clips actually on this munich. But I want to start off with this screwball one, which is Uma

Starting point is 00:36:47 Abedin's going to be at the meetup. I thought that was peculiar. At the meetup? Yeah, the Munich meetup. Have you heard who she's dating? Yeah, she's dating Soros' kid. The Soros' kid. Can you believe that?

Starting point is 00:37:04 Yeah, I can. She gets around. She was on Morning Mika. Oh, of course. Talking about Biden. And they're all going on and on about how great Biden is. The group of them. And Jen was there.

Starting point is 00:37:19 And I think she referred to Jen Psaki as Jen Jen at one point. Jen Jen? Oh, man. I know. I wish I couldn't get that clip. It may have irked some. I like the Munich meetup. I like how that sounds.

Starting point is 00:37:34 That's what it is. Potential show title, Munich meetup. Yeah, that's good. But before I play Uma, I'll play that. We could play her, but let's play. Because here's the top issue, according to NPR at let's play this play because here's the top issue. According to NPR at the at the Munich is Munich NPR top issue. World leaders and defense ministers are gathering in Germany for the Munich Security Conference.

Starting point is 00:37:54 The high profile summit is a chance to discuss pressing global security issues. And this year, the war in Ukraine and the United States relationship to it are top issues. OK, well, in that same report you listen a little further here's the munich what is the top issue topic munich security conference the hostages taken by hamas in early october after they attacked southern israel was a main topic and talks about a ceasefire to get them out of gaza It's a different topic. But Qatar's Prime Minister, Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdul Rahman Al Thani, appeared cautious about the prospect of a new agreement between Israel and Hamas, saying while they've made good progress so far,

Starting point is 00:38:34 it appears the talks have stalled between the two sides. The pattern in the last few days are not really very promising, but as I always repeat, you know, we will always remain optimistic. The hostages have been held since early October. Okay, so wait, the same report, the top issue is Ukraine, then the top issue is something else, and then what I think the top issue is, because like you said, everybody and their sisters showed up to this drinking club.

Starting point is 00:39:04 It must have been, you know, I think K sisters showed up to this drinking club. It must have been, you know, I think, I think Klaus Schwab should be thinking, he's there too, by the way. Of course, of course.

Starting point is 00:39:12 But he should be thinking about, Nancy Pelosi's there. Everybody's there. Yeah. But the top geeks are there too. Listen to this. Major tech companies this week signed a pact to voluntarily adopt reasonable precautions to prevent artificial intelligence tools from disrupting democratic elections around the world. Tech executives from several companies, including Amazon, Google, Meta, Microsoft, and TikTok, gathered at the Munich Security Conference to announce a new voluntary framework for how they will respond to AI-generated deepfakes

Starting point is 00:39:45 that deliberately trick voters. It's largely symbolic, but it does target increasingly realistic AI-generated images, audio, and video that makes candidates say something they didn't or mislead about how to vote. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's voluntary, everybody. Don't worry. Meanwhile, we are two golden retrievers podcasting on a mountain. So I'm guessing that the reference that still eludes me, obviously. So I'm guessing that everybody, this is like, was the in thing to go to. This was like.

Starting point is 00:40:19 This is the new, new Davos. You had to go to this because just now, I want you to listen. They're talking about Joe Biden's old age, and they ask a question of Uma about his old age. And this is Mika. And Mika is saying, you know, it's great to be old. You've got wisdom. And she did an interview with Jill who says, yeah, he's great. He's the best man, I mean, person for the

Starting point is 00:40:45 job. She said that exactly. And it goes on and on. And so she throws this at Uma. And so in a form of, I guess, virtue signaling about this event, you get to hear the following. So Uma, can it be a positive factor? Well, Mika, as I think you all know, I'm on my way to Munich to attend the security conference. And the conversations that you know came out after the Davos meeting a few weeks ago, the conversations people are having about what is going to happen in our country, is he, you know, is to Jen's, you know, echoing again Jen's point, is he going to be our nominee? Could it be Trump? They're making these

Starting point is 00:41:25 huge decisions about their own country's futures based on what they think is going to happen in our country. And in part because America, even though we are not the foremost, sort of have the foremost supremacy today as we had maybe a few decades ago, we are still seen as a leading partner on any global stage. And these are conversations where we're talking about life and death and these crises and these conflicts, not just in Ukraine and the Middle East, but really throughout the world. But those two are at the forefront of people's minds. And so many of these relationships are based on trust. Hold on. Like your relationship with Carlos Danger.

Starting point is 00:42:06 So she was wife of Anthony Weiner. She was at, maybe still be, Hillary Clinton's body man, as it's described. And now she's talking about policy and she's at the Munich conference and she's on MSNBC going on and on about blah, blah, blah. I mean, these Clintons, they do. This is unbelievable or what? Yeah. The Clintons have clearly sent their girl, Uma, to side up to the Soros fortune with Alex, who was probably he's probably dumb. He's probably unaware that his life hangs by a thread.

Starting point is 00:42:46 Probably. Probably. Especially hooking up with the Clintons. I mean, he does not know what he's getting. Put him on the list. This is very dangerous, Alex Soros. This is not a good thing. All right.

Starting point is 00:43:00 That's what he wants. Yeah, so she's floating around talking about policy now. She was just basically a gopher she's like hey have you seen my spread in Vogue hey baby be my valentine so just as an aside I have another clip of her

Starting point is 00:43:16 talking about I've never heard this this is the other Uma clip from the Mika Morning Show. You want me to play it or not? Yeah, play it, but I want to just set it up a little bit. This is something that supposedly explains why Biden has this, you know, he has an awkward gait of an old drunkard that is pretty much suffering from dementia.

Starting point is 00:43:44 But no, no, that's not it at all. I went up and said, you know, I stutter and and and this is my experience in life. And this is what the president does, too. And I wasn't reminded or I'd forgotten. And I pay attention, by the way, I watch your shows. I had forgotten that the president hurt his foot when he was president elect. that the president hurt his foot when he was president-elect and that that's you know one of the reasons why it's you know he has an issue uh sometimes with that with that foot i'd completely forgotten and so i think being transparent is really important in this day and age you can be coy and sort of be a virgin walking into the spacing i don't know and let's get to the election day you have to oh okay so two things about this clip one

Starting point is 00:44:27 bullcrap two she mentions his stutter coincidence in our show is it's unbelievable john i didn't know you were bringing this clip dave jones has been helping me we need to restore some old clips from the archive we move servers and so clips from like before episode 500 or so were were uh were resulting 404 so he is working on this he says hey man so i've restored these clips listen to biden from 2014 the big stutterer i aspire for one of my grandchildren to become wealthy so when they put put me in a home, I'll get a window with a view, you know, I mean, right now. As I as I pointed out, it was embarrassing. Bernie Sanders net worth is more than mine. I mean, I have less money than a socialist.

Starting point is 00:45:20 I don't know what the hell happened. That's Biden only 10 years ago. That does not in any way, A, resemble the man we hear today. B, he has no stutter. There's no stutter. No. No. I'm just saying.

Starting point is 00:45:36 There's no stutter. Yeah, it's a bowl of crap. This is his foot. He walks funny because he had a... And I kind of remember when he had his foot in the boot. Remember that? Yeah, because he had, because Trump put him in an ankle monitor

Starting point is 00:45:49 on him. If I recall correctly. He had his foot in the boot. And that's the reason he walks funny. There were a whole bunch of people who had boots on at the time. Don't you remember? Like that was a thing? Like, uh-oh, someone's got a boot. That means they got the ankle monitor.

Starting point is 00:46:06 Yes, this was a thing. I'm uh-oh, someone's got a boot. That means they got the ankle monitor. Yes, this was a thing. I'm sure of it. I'm sure of it. So we know what the BRICS are, of course. Brazil, Russia, India, China, South America, now Egypt, Saudi Arabia. Everyone's in with the BRICS. Everybody's getting in on the act. So Deutsche Welle thinks, oh, you know what? I'll ask the Indian government what they think about Lavalde. So J.V. Shergill

Starting point is 00:46:29 is national spokesman for the governing party in India, the BJP. That's the party, of course, of Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Thanks very much for taking time here at the Munich Security Conference, J.V. Shergill. Let's talk about, first of all, the news that has really been shaking the event here today, the death of Alexei Navalny, the Russian opposition leader. India has maintained good relations with Russia for decades and also through the war over the last couple of years. When something like this happens, what goes through your mind and what goes through the kind of calculations in Delhihi is this really a country russia that you want to be doing business with russia i will reiterate india stan russia was is and will remain india's strong friend and ally he's our friend our ally i don't care what you say deutschewelle of course not of course not of

Starting point is 00:47:27 course not there was some actual business going on though there's some real real business oh yeah oh yeah oh here it is nato defense ministers have put talk of a rift between the u.s and europe behind them following a two-day meeting in brussels the alliance hailed the increase in defense budgets which will see European members spending an extra $33 billion this year. And the alliance stressed it's continued backing for Ukraine.

Starting point is 00:47:53 With ammo running short on the battlefield, NATO defence ministers stressed more needs to be done to ensure that Ukraine has the supplies it needs. We also discussed ramping up production of ammunition to refill our stocks and continue to support Ukraine. No, wait for it.

Starting point is 00:48:09 We need to shift from the slow pace of peacetime to the high tempo production demanded by conflict. NATO said it will set up a training center with Ukraine and Poland to share intelligence on fighting the Russian army. Ukraine and Poland to share intelligence on fighting the Russian army. A group of member states also wants to send one million drones to Ukraine and other allies want to help clear mines in the war-torn country. Yeah, baby, one million. One million drones. One million drones?

Starting point is 00:48:42 Yeah, one million drones. Yeah. That doesn't sound fun. No, but this is $33 million and one million drones? Yeah, 1 million drones. That doesn't sound fun. No, but this is $33 million and 1 million drones. I mean, come on. Billion. I mean, come on. Just shove it in our face, will you?

Starting point is 00:48:56 We got it. We understand. Throw Huma out there. I have a Richard Engel report, if you want that. We haven't heard any actual CIA reports. Yeah, let's get the spook angle from Richard Engel, NBC. 47-year-old Alexei Navalny was looking healthy, joking with a judge via video link from his Arctic prison just two days ago.

Starting point is 00:49:22 Navalny's mother saw him Monday and said he was in good spirits yet somehow alexei navalny russian president vladimir putin's fiercest and most energetic critic dropped dead suddenly there it is to get your talking points everybody dropped dead suddenly at a penal colony in siberia prison officials say Navalny went for a walk but felt unwell and quickly lost consciousness. They said medics could not revive him. President Biden blamed President Putin. Make no mistake, Putin is responsible for Navalny's death. In Moscow, supporters laid flowers to honor Navalny.

Starting point is 00:50:02 Do you think it's maybe, I don't know, maybe it's just me being cautious, irresponsible to make these sorts of claims when you actually have no evidence? Make no mistake. You're making a mistake by saying that. Make no mistake. Putin is responsible. Make no mistake. Putin is responsible for Navalny's death. In Moscow, supporters laid flowers to honor Navalny despite a warning from the state prosecutor. Sorry. Yes.

Starting point is 00:50:34 What kind of diplomat is this guy? He's Joe Biden. We're doing a war with Ukraine that we'd like to get out of, I think. Uh-huh. yeah so you want to do what you what's called diplomacy which is a well-known phenomenon that is used by politicians to get out of things you don't want to continue to do unless you just want to squander the nation's wealth away are you being sarcastic make no mistake he wants to squander the nation's wealth away. Are you being sarcastic? Make no mistake. He wants to squander our money. Did you just get off the hayride? Yes, I did. OK, make no mistake. I got to have my ass. Putin is responsible for Navalny's death.

Starting point is 00:51:19 In Moscow, supporters laid flowers to honor Navalny, despite a warning from the state prosecutor that protests would not be allowed. When a woman tried to unfurl a sign, she was taken away by authorities. All right, then he has some background. Might as well do that. It's not that long. Navalny started out as an anti-corruption blogger. A blogger! Exposing on his YouTube show. He started out as a blogger.

Starting point is 00:51:46 Remember those days of blogs, John? Yeah, I used to be a blogger. Yeah, we used to blog. I used to have a blog. Exposing on his YouTube show, The Lavish Lifestyles. A YouTube show? Enjoyed by Putin. Oh, I didn't know that. That's what he's

Starting point is 00:52:02 most known for. This is what's so crazy. It's like, he was the staunchest opponent he's a blogger navalny was a central figure in massive protests against putin in 2012 he was jailed and harassed and attacked with a green dye that damaged his right eye. In 2020, while on a flight in Moscow, Navalny suddenly fell ill. The gnat popped. He was poisoned by a nerve agent and flown to Germany to recover. He blamed Putin for the assassination attempt.

Starting point is 00:52:36 The Kremlin denied responsibility. And then came the most consequential decision of his life. Navalny returned to Russia after recovering from his poisoning. Navalny deliberately put his life on the line and his principles first until his death, which isn't confirmed by his family, but who don't seem to doubt it.

Starting point is 00:52:56 And then finally we have his wife in Munich. At the party! Navalny's wife, Yulia, in Munich called for President Putin to be punished. We should come together and fight against this evil, she said. In 2021, President Biden warned Putin of devastating consequences if anything happened to Navalny in Russian custody. Peter pressing him on that on Friday.

Starting point is 00:53:22 What consequences should he and russia face that was three years ago in the meantime they faced a hell of a lot of consequences and we're contemplating what else could be done oh yeah more war talk um so i have a series i just have a little backgrounder yeah clip i want to play this is the soft russian mysterious sora sort of this is sort for but this from pbs this is a short, short, short Russian mysterious deaths. You know, there are some incidents straight out of a spy novel. For example, Sergei Skripal, he was an ex-Russian spy who was convicted of working for British intelligence. And he and his daughter were found collapsed on a bench in the UK after being injected with Novichok.

Starting point is 00:54:05 bench in the UK after being injected with Novichok. Another spy who ran afoul of Putin, Alexander Litvinenko, died from a radioactive substance called polonium, and that was after having tea with two Russian agents in London. Boris Nemtsov, an opposition figure, he was shot, as well as investigative journalist Anna Polakovskaya. An oil tycoon named Reveal Maganov, who called for the end to the invasion of Ukraine, he fell to his death from a six-floor window of a Moscow hospital. And then last year, Evgeny Prigozhin, who was the head of the Wagner mercenary group, he died when the plane he was flying in exploded in midair after it left Moscow. You know, that was shortly after Prigozhin spearheaded an uprising challenging Putin's handling of the Ukraine war.

Starting point is 00:54:46 And, Camilla, the list goes on and on. Now, I counted eight. Eight killings against the Clinton body count. You're just getting started, man. Oh, it's just a baby. Do we know that this is not FSB's doing just from the get-go and then Putin just gave them the go-ahead and maybe they do whatever they want and they kill these guys left and right? The CIA does this

Starting point is 00:55:10 sort of thing and it doesn't get blamed on the president necessarily. No. CIA kills people? I've heard that. I could be wrong. There's another blogger we should probably talk about. This does kind of expose the United States in particular in the West in general,

Starting point is 00:55:27 to an expanding problem that most of the rest of the non-Western world sees, and that's this double standard. Because while we excoriate Putin for doing what he did to Navalny, and I agree that that shouldn't have been done to him, Navalny, by all accounts, is a great guy, a truth teller, and was trying to expose the regime. You should to him. Novelny, by all accounts, is a great guy, a truth teller, and was trying to expose the regime. But then you have the U.S. doing almost the identical thing to Julian Assange, who is also in a high security prison in the U.K., awaiting a tradition to the U.S.,

Starting point is 00:55:57 and nobody wants to let him have a voice to do anything either. And so the rest of the world sees that. Now, we'll tell ourselves, oh, ourselves oh well that's different because and fill in the blank but to most of the world you see a political figure that the russians in the united states don't like and they're silencing them in jail so to them it's the same thing which means our comments here on russia are going to fall on deaf ears in a lot of places yeah there you go so let's just don't forget like you said earlier the january 6th detainees oh there was something hilarious hold on a second so um nancy pelosi is uh is there obviously and she does an interview on i think it's called conflict zone conflict zone and so it's it's about ukraine obviously and listen to how her what her head is actually filled with.

Starting point is 00:56:48 But there are levers that... Okay, hold on. Actually, I want to play these two in sequence. The first one's kind of short. So this is about Israel versus Hamas. Mr. Biden said Israel's conduct of the war was over the top. There are a lot of innocent people who are over the top. There are a lot of innocent people who are starving. He said there are a lot of innocent people who are in trouble and dying

Starting point is 00:57:09 and it's got to stop. Can Mr. Biden make it stop? Well, we have a, I don't want to call Mr. because I've lost so much respect for him, Netanyahu there, who seems to be. You've lost respect for him. Long time ago. But nonetheless, he seems to be calling the shots. And he and his very extreme right wing, I wouldn't even say conservative, because that's a legitimate place to be in the world of thinking on the spectrum. But right wing, radical right wing cabinet. but right wing, radical right wing cabinet. So I would hope that hearing from a friend of Israel, as Joe Biden has always been and all of us have been, that he would respect the lives of the people

Starting point is 00:57:58 who are innocent, collateral damage in this war. So here's Nancy, Ms. Pelosi, with one of those sheriff star badges, one of the sheriff badges of Ukraine and USA. You need to get a close-up shot of that for the newsletter. Or at least I'd like to see it. Maybe Troll Room can get me a URL. Troll Room, get a shot.

Starting point is 00:58:19 A good close-up. So she's like, no, he's not a good guy. He's far right. But she's being very careful with her words. I know AIPAC may be concerned about what she's saying. So then Mr. Conflict Zone asks her, well, but the same question Matt Lee asked. But you have levers. You've said you have levers to pull. You can pull levers.

Starting point is 00:58:39 What levers are they? Levers. But there are levers that Biden could use, which he hasn't used. There are levers which previous presidents have used when Israel has, in their view, crossed the line. For example, go back to 1956, Eisenhower threatened sanctions if Israel didn't pull it. Like 1956. I was 40 back then, dude. I don't remember that. Eisenhower threatened sanctions if Israel didn't pull its forces out of Sinai. Reagan, you know, held up delivery of fighter jets over Israel's action in Lebanon. George Bush Sr. blocked loan guarantees because of settlement building.

Starting point is 00:59:17 He did. I was there the day that that I went back to 56. I mean, so these levers are there. I know you're going back to 56. I mean, so these levers are there. Well, there's some. But the president has said something about the settlements. He has said something about the settlements. But saying and blocking weapons supplies, for instance, are very different things.

Starting point is 00:59:40 Well, it's not. It's a path. It's a path. Look, this is terrible. Well, it's not. It's a path. It's a path. Look, this is terrible. I mean, nobody wants to in any way minimize what happened on October 6th. This was barbaric. It's October 7th, Nancy. Your head's still in January 6th. Minimize what happened on October 6th. This was barbaric. It was horrible.

Starting point is 01:00:14 And consequence of hostage taking, rape, murder, kidnapping, attacking young people at a music festival. How bad could it get? And almost to the point of inviting, inviting a reaction. Because she's saying January 6th, really October 6th. I think what she's saying there is also, we were inviting a reaction. I mean, it's in her head. This woman, it's in her head. She's practically admitting to January 6th being a setup. In my mind. Which, of course,

Starting point is 01:00:36 is twisted, but it's that sheriff's badge that's blinding me. Very weird. It's a weird badge. I wonder what what no one's been able to find it i mean you see it in all the videos it's it's uh it's a it's like it lives it looks like a sheriff's badge i can't say it any other way it's got a big star in the middle it's like a gold or you know copper color gold and goldish and uh and then it has a little uk and U.S. flag. I mean, it's like if you sign off on a,

Starting point is 01:01:08 maybe it's the billion dollar club. If you sign off on a billion for Ukraine, you get a badge. It's like a flair. Something screwy about it. It's very NLP-ish. Speaking of such, I would like to do a little presentation unless you want to do more on Munich.

Starting point is 01:01:25 Let me see what I got here. I don't know if I have any more Munich stuff. I've got... I don't think so. No? No, I'm good. Okay. So, Tucker Carlson dropped a video with Mike Benz, and everybody's all jitty jacked about it have you

Starting point is 01:01:47 by any chance before you continue with that did you i'm just asking did you see tucker in the russian supermarket well then let me start with that because i need to say something about that as well here here's the opening clip of tucker in the moscow supermarket so a long-standing feature maybe the longest standing feature of cold war propaganda in the west was the soviet grocery store no products no choices shoddily made things and it wasn't actually propaganda it was real now but he's showing video from i don't know what 1956 i mean this it's been quite modern for many years in moscow you can look up the pictures on the internet this is the one that got me so we thought it'd be interesting to take a look at a contemporary modern day 2024 russian grocery store two years into sanctions here we go all right here we go so i guess you put in 10

Starting point is 01:02:50 rubles here and you get it back okay you put it right there this is what i want to talk about this that particular yes what he's showing is the old put a coin in pull the card out this is not it's been around for 10 years the holland has had it since they had the gilder they have them all over the south yeah whole foods has them well i haven't seen him around here but that's that was my point it's like he needs to get out more i agree 100 good catch you can't you caught yourself it's safe i agree you're safe that he needs to get out more because that little coin thing is not new and 10 i think i'd go for i'd say it's been around 25 years minimum all right now so tucker does an interview with Mike Benz. Mike Benz worked in cybersecurity, I'm not sure that's the exact title, at the State Department. For the past two years,

Starting point is 01:03:52 he has been the executive director of Foundation for Freedom Online. The Foundation for Freedom Online is not a nonprofit. It says he's's the only person he's the executive director his mission through educational reports legal assistance and public policy analysis concerning developing threats to digital liberties we seek to provide non-partisan insights and assistance to all peoples taking a stand for freedom of speech freedom of expression and the free exchange of ideas online and uh it's a free speech watchdog dedicated to restoring the promise of a free and open internet there's no donate button does not claim to be a non-profit so i looked all over the website and then i see right at the bottom at

Starting point is 01:04:38 the bottom under the contact page it says they are backed by this other outfit called empower oversight at empower e-m-p-o-w-r dot u-s and they are accountability and public integrity through the power of information they defend whistleblowers and their leadership their founder is jason foster uh it's all republican people um represented four different congressional committees and hundreds of disputes with the executive branch over documents and witnesses um there's let me see beth levine street he doesn't know she does strategic committee Robert Heyer, officer in the U.S. Marine Corps, special agent with the U.S. Secret Service. And they're located in Fairfax, Virginia. oversight whistleblowers and research about a million bucks uh again uh located in fairfax virginia so rather spooky even though um on their website they say someplace in texas okay fine but i wonder you know who's funding this outfit i have i hope this is what i always wonder he had

Starting point is 01:06:01 a good job at state department leave Department, goes on lots of shows. He's been on the Pool Boy show. He's been in all kinds of places. And I'm not saying he's a bad guy. I'm not saying Tucker's a bad guy, but it feels to me like a massive redirection because here was an hour and four minute conversation where mainly Mike is talking

Starting point is 01:06:21 and he's saying the correct things, but it's the first saying the correct things. But it's the first eight minutes that is important. And then for the next 55 minutes, all he's doing is telling everybody about the censorship industrial complex. How how social media in America censoring you, censoring you, censoring you, censoring. And I believe that to be misdirection. I'm setting it all up right now. I don't know whether that's purposeful or not. Tucker is definitely a useful idiot in this case.

Starting point is 01:06:52 And I have a couple of clips, and I have some no agenda clips from back in the day to back up what this really is about, because all of this started as propaganda. And we've tracked propaganda on the internet for a long time on the no agenda show all the way through the repeal of smith month which had to happen because of propaganda not because of de-platforming and shadow banning and putting notes community notes everywhere

Starting point is 01:07:19 but because of actual propaganda and i think we're being misdirected here, so I want to present my case. We start off with... Wait, wait, wait. Misdirected for what purpose? Okay. Trusted voices is a concept in the propaganda war. And I'm talking trusted voices like Renee DeSestra, I think that's her name, who was on Joe Rogan, who came from the sleeping giants. And she was, oh, no, we have to get these horrible companies offline. But she's really part of the CIA misinformation.

Starting point is 01:07:59 She is part of misinformation. Malone, I've never liked Malone. Malone, he says, hang out with cia people then you were cia yeah and and and he's the one that kind of got rid of the um uh matthias de smet theory of uh what was it uh mass formation and turned it into something else and directed it towards Hitler instead of an actual, the actual phenomenon that, that this professor studied mass formation, he turned to mass formation delusion or something,

Starting point is 01:08:35 and then it was just like Hitler. And then we're all not, no. So there are people who get on podcasts in particular, big podcasts, Tucker Carlson, where's his money coming from? Where's his lawsuit with Fox? Where's that? I mean, big podcast, Tucker Carlson. Where's his money coming from? Where's his lawsuit with Fox?

Starting point is 01:08:46 Where's that? I mean, you know, I have all kinds of questions about these people. And, you know, Brett Weinstein is now being on Tucker. He was back on Joe Rogan. I mean, these people are everywhere. Brett Weinstein gets invited to go to the Darien Gap and then comes back and says, we're being invaded by China. No, I'm sorry. I think that we're being misdirected by people who are probably well-intending and they just get

Starting point is 01:09:12 in from, you know how it happens. It happens to me too. Microdots. I mean, things happen. Pachenik, I mean. Hey, you said it, I did. Yeah, but I'm saying it because. Microdots. I'm saying, QAnon,on you know it's this kind of stuff and there's misdirection taking place and there's my belief that we're all being told to get and this this interview was so earth shaking okay why okay yeah i've you're you're i think you're rambling a little bit and i'm not getting what i want so let's play this what do you want what do you want i want to know specifically what the, what the op is.

Starting point is 01:09:51 The op is to focus everybody on the platforming and censorship and not on the messaging, the propaganda that is out in the open in front of our faces. That's what, that's what I'm talking about. That's what he's talking about. Free speech on the internet was an instrument of statecraft almost from the outset of the privatization of the Internet in 1991. We quickly discovered through the efforts of the Defense Department, the State Department, and our intelligence services that people were using the Internet to congregate on blogs and forums, and free speech was championed more than anybody by the Pentagon,

Starting point is 01:10:28 the State Department, and our sort of CIA cut-out NGO blob architecture as a way to support dissident groups around the world in order to help them overthrow authoritarian governments as they were sort of billed. Essentially, the internet free speech allowed kind of insta-regime change operations to be able to facilitate the foreign policy establishment's State Department agenda. And the ability to track, to use free speech on the internet as a way to circumvent state control over media in places like Central Asia or all around the world was seen as a way to be able to do what used to be done out of CIA station houses or out of embassies or consulates in a way that was totally turbocharged.

Starting point is 01:11:22 And all of the Internet free speech technology was initially created by our national security state. VPNs, virtual private networks to hide your IP address, Tor, the dark web to be able to buy and sell goods anonymously, end-to-end encrypted chats. All of these things were created initially as DARPA projects or as joint CIA-NSA projects to be able to help intelligence-backed groups to overthrow governments that were causing a problem to the Clinton administration or the Bush administration or the Obama administration.

Starting point is 01:11:56 And I brought some clips to back that up. Back what up? That all of these technology, initially initially the psychological operations of the military, the State Department were used to overthrow foreign governments who were our adversaries. Remember, the Internet in the box and all the other stuff. This is Newland. Our next question comes from our Farsi feed. Well, 2012 at USA Dar Farsi. It's a two part question from at Amin LV.

Starting point is 01:12:30 Ask state, Iran is about to cut off the internet. What's the status of the suitcase internet? And what is the U.S. procedure on the new threat to the U.S. Navy? I assume. So, yes, they had the suitcase internet. We were doing everything we could to overthrow countries by having techno-experts, as Hillary Clinton called them, rooms full of people who were infiltrating online,

Starting point is 01:12:59 posting messages against the regime. That's what it was used for. Yeah, and that's what Putin was pissed off about. Yes. Yeah, it certainly did. This is Tom Shanker from the New York Times, 2011. Yeah, it certainly did. What the American military intelligence can do is forge the watermarks or certification, if you will, of official al-Qaeda postings, because they don't

Starting point is 01:13:24 want people going online and pretending to be them. But, you know, American cyber technology is so advanced that they can have a near perfect recreation of an al-Qaeda message. And what they're doing from time to time is going on to jihadi websites and posting conflicting and contradictory orders, statements that raise doubt about who the jihadi should follow and who's really in charge. And is this person still alive? Are they still in control? And the goal is to really disrupt the entire network by sowing distrust and dissent and confusion. We've been told that they've had some great successes at that. See, I'm playing these clips because I think that that is the thing that we're being directed away from is who are these people who are posting messages, sowing dissent, coming into groups, probably in our own group as well, rummaging around. But Mike Benz, his whole hour was about the removal of free speech.

Starting point is 01:14:31 That's what Tucker's, oh, free speech is all, oh, we don't have free speech. Yeah, that's not what it's about. To me, it's a cover-up of what is really going on. This is the second part of Benz. And this plan worked magically from about 1991 until about 2014 when there began to be an about face on Internet freedom and its utility. Now, the high watermark of the sort of Internet free speech moment was the Arab Spring in 2011, 2012, when you had this one by one. All of the adversary governments of the Obama administration, Egypt, Tunisia, all began to be toppled in Facebook revolutions and Twitter revolutions.

Starting point is 01:15:09 And you had the State Department working very closely with the social media companies to be able to keep social media online during those periods. There was a famous phone call from Google's Jared Cohen to Twitter to not do their scheduled maintenance so that the preferred opposition group in Iran would be able to use Twitter to win that election. So free speech was an instrument of statecraft from the national security state to begin with. All of that architecture, all the NGOs, the relationships between the tech companies and the national security state had been long established for freedom. In 2014, after the coup in Ukraine, there was an unexpected counter-coup where Crimea and the Donbass broke away. And they broke away with essentially a military backstop that NATO was highly unprepared for at the time.

Starting point is 01:16:00 They had one last Hail Mary chance, which was the Crimea annexation vote in 2014. And when the hearts and minds of the people of Crimea voted to join the Russian Federation, that was the last straw for the concept of free speech on the Internet in the eyes of NATO. And now we go back to Hillary Clinton. We're doing a lot of work to try to come up with technologies that can circumvent the jamming and the interruptions and the tracking that the regime are engaged in right now. We are providing technology, some of which, you know, is more effective than others. We are certainly training people, both outside and inside, to be able to use technology to circumvent. This is one of my highest priorities.

Starting point is 01:16:55 You know, I've spoken out repeatedly about the right of people to have access to the Internet. It is freedom of speech and expression and assembly, values that we think every human being is entitled to. But we have also seen the regime in Iran impose what amounts to an electronic curtain. It's the 21st century equivalent of the barbed wire and the fences and the dogs that the old Soviet Union used because they come at it from the same mentality. They want totalitarian control over what you learn and what you say and even what you think and how you worship and all the things that go to the heart of human dignity and human freedom. So yes, we are doing everything we can. Now I will quickly add that we're experimenting. Sometimes we think something

Starting point is 01:17:41 will work, it turns out not to work. Sometimes we get maybe a year ahead of the regime's efforts, and then they catch up and we have to go back to the drawing boards. But I want to assure your viewers that we are committed to doing everything we can to provide as much communication freedom inside and outside of Iran to people trying to speak out for their rights as possible. So Mike Benz's point that he goes on and on, and if you look, I'm presuming you haven't seen the hour-long interview. What everyone is responding to is they have back doors into Twitter, they can take you off, they can shadow ban you. But that's the wrong thing to focus on.

Starting point is 01:18:23 As they saw it, the fundamental nature of war changed at that moment. And NATO at that point declared something that they first called the Drossimov Doctrine, which is named after this Russian military general who they claimed made a speech that the fundamental nature of war has changed. You don't need to win military skirmishes to take over Central and Eastern Europe. All you need to do is control the media and the social media ecosystem, because that's what controls elections. And if you simply get the right administration into power, they control the military. So it's infinitely cheaper than conducting a military war to simply conduct an organized political influence operation

Starting point is 01:19:01 over social media and legacy media. An industry had been created that spanned the Pentagon, the British Ministry of Defense, and Brussels into an organized political warfare outfit, essentially infrastructure that was created, initially stationed in Germany and in Central and Eastern Europe, to create psychological buffer zones, basically to create the ability to have the military work with the social media companies to censor Russian propaganda or to censor domestic right-wing populist groups in Europe who were rising in political power at the time because of the migrant crisis. See, this is where he starts to pivot. And this is what I disagree. What he's focusing everybody on is the

Starting point is 01:19:45 censorship but what the what the defense department was really doing was stuff like this as we work the data piece and it gives us the ability instead of just this from 2017 our own archives throwing a message out and hope it lands we can actually I call that kind of meat cleaver messaging. You throw it out there and hopefully it hits the right audience. We have the ability, and I'll use an example of something we've started this year, and this is using Facebook ads. I can go within Facebook. I can go grab an audience.

Starting point is 01:20:22 I'll give a hypothetical. I can pick country X. I need age group 13 to 34. I need people who've liked, you know, whether it's Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi or any other set, and I can shoot and hit them directly with messages. For in some places in the world, it's literally pennies a click so you know that's what they're doing they're using this in the same propaganda is as old as the word propaganda but that's what we need to focus on is on the propaganda and then the final clip this is mike benz who really explains what this is about this kind of helps us understand why NATO is all freaked out about

Starting point is 01:21:05 Trump, because without NATO, then the real owners of the world are in trouble. When Brexit happened in 2016, that was this crisis moment where suddenly they didn't have to worry just about Central and Eastern Europe anymore. It was coming westward, this idea of Russian control over hearts and minds. And so that was, Brexit was June 2016, the very next month at the Warsaw Conference, NATO formally amended its charter to expressly commit to hybrid warfare as this new NATO capacity. So they went from, they went from basically 70 years of tanks to this explicit capacity building for censoring tweets that they were deemed to be Russian proxies.

Starting point is 01:21:54 And again, it's not just Russian propaganda. These were now Brexit groups or groups like Matteo Salvini in Italy or in Greece or in Germany or in Spain with the Vox party. And now at the time, NATO was publishing white papers saying that the biggest threat NATO faces is not actually a military invasion from Russia. It's losing domestic elections across Europe to all these right-wing populist groups who, because they were mostly working class movements, were campaigning on cheap Russian energy at a time when the U.S. was pressuring this energy diversification policy.

Starting point is 01:22:30 And so they made the argument, after Brexit, now the entire rules-based international order would collapse unless the military took control over media. Because Brexit would give rise to Frexit in France with Marine Le Pen, to Spexit in Spain with the Vox Party, to Italy exit in Italy, to Brexit in Germany, to Brexit in Greece, the EU would come apart so NATO would be killed without a single bullet being fired. And then not only that, now that NATO is gone, now there's no enforcement arm for the International Monetary Fund, the IMF or the World Bank.

Starting point is 01:23:02 So now the financial stakeholders who depend on the battering ram of the national security state would basically be helpless against governments around the world. So I appreciate that Mike Ben said all this. This is absolutely true. But as I said, then he just goes on. Everyone's talking about how incredible the censorship industrial complex is. We need to be careful, especially with what i call the info mavericks what are these people telling us what battlefield are they sending us to to run around and i'll be all spun up about this oh there's some shadow band well in the meantime the people who are right in our face are giving us information like the supermarkets in Moscow are so much better. You know, it's like, what are we going to pay attention to? That's my point.

Starting point is 01:23:54 Okay. I thought that he generalized a bit. His history of the internet's a bit much. history of the internet's a bit much uh he's claiming everything happened around 1991 including vpns which is a decade off um but i will go listen to that interview and see what i think yeah now i'm i should have sent it to you i mean they even wanted to put it on the no agenda stream after our show i'm like no no no, it doesn't matter. You know, the powers that be the powers that run the stream, but, but that's, but that's the kind of, that's the level of enthusiasm I see for Mike Benz, who may be a very nice guy and Tucker's probably a really nice guy, but I just have the feeling that they are sending us to these battlefields where they want us to be, which is about free speech, free speech.

Starting point is 01:24:48 They're censoring us. Oh, they're censoring us. Elon's great. Okay. Keep believing that. So I'm going to do a little Ukraine stuff. All right. stuff.

Starting point is 01:25:03 All right. I have a couple of clips here that were kind of like, took me aback. Wait, where's it from? This is once from NPR and once from PBS. Oh my goodness.

Starting point is 01:25:20 Oh, PBS. Oh, excellent. Well, wait a minute. Don't we have a jingle for that? That's what I'm waiting for. Yeah, I don't know what happened to my jingle. Well, I'm way off. Wow. Yeah, I know. Okay. I usually play that thing right away.

Starting point is 01:25:36 I don't know what happened. You probably could play Amy's right away if you had to. Oh, here it is. There we go. Elitist Voices of america this is npr or pbs i'm sorry i really screwed that one up i'll cut it out i'll edit it out no one will know so let's go with ukraine wait what ukraine's president is warning western allies that holding up military aid is having an effect on the battlefield and here's jo Kikisis reports Russia secured its first battlefield win in months

Starting point is 01:26:10 after Ukrainian troops, low on ammunition, withdrew from a strategic eastern town. President Biden referred to the fall of the town of Dvka in a call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Biden said Ukrainian soldiers had to quote ration ammunition as a result of congressional inaction wait wait what it's our fault this republicans oh i thought england in particular was like the big big boy and the eu and germany were no it's our congress that cost the little city uh it's our fault to be overrun by the russians just us alone we're doing the whole thing is that what you're telling me that's our fault yes pbs npr so npr yes that's npr it's our

Starting point is 01:26:59 fault yeah yes it's your in fact i think it's your thing little john c dvorak you're at fault that's how you're supposed to feel it's your fault this is the second half of that clip earlier at the munich security conference zelensky said a delay in aid only helps russian president vladimir putin who ordered the full-scale invasion of ukraine nearly two years ago do not ask ukraine when the war will end ask yourself why is putin still able to continue it the russian occupation of aksivka comes a month before presidential elections in russia give us some credit man give us some us some credit. So what he's saying there, he's insulting us. Yes, absolutely. He's saying, how come Russia can keep this war going and you wimps can't do it?

Starting point is 01:27:50 That's right. You're Republicans. That's right. That's exactly what he said. How dumb is the American public to fall for this, to be suckers for this stupid war for up to two years now? This is billions and billions. And the latest thing is 95 billion they want. Well, I think that if you were given one of those nice sheriff stars, you'd probably be like, oh, yeah, I got to help you out.

Starting point is 01:28:14 Well, here's the PBS report. Not as bad as that report, but PBS, Ukraine at Munich. Ukrainian forces have withdrawn from the devastated eastern city of Avdivka, handing Russia a key victory. Outnumbered Ukrainian soldiers, desperately short of ammunition, had withstood a Russian assault for four months. At the Munich security conference, Vice President Kamala Harris met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Zelensky said he's hoping for a break in the months-long congressional logjam that's bottled up U.S. aid from Ukraine. We are counting on this positive decision of the Congress.

Starting point is 01:28:54 For us, this package is vital. We do not currently look into alternatives because we are counting on the United States as our strategic partner. When we talk about the role of America as it relates to our support for Ukraine, we must be unwavering and we cannot play political games. Harris said there is no plan B if Congress doesn't pass the $60 billion aid package. There is only plan A, she told reporters. The Senate overwhelmingly approved the aid bill, but House Speaker Mike Johnson said he won't even bring it up for a vote.

Starting point is 01:29:33 Good for Mike Johnson. That's interesting because I've learned something else because these packages are all tied to the border. And, you know, I've looked at the border packages. And it seems like there's a lot of money going into helping migrants, not into stopping migrants. Yeah. You know, they talk a big game. But, you know, and well, actually, here's the big game that's being talked down here. This dirt field along the Rio Grande and Eagle Pass will soon be perhaps the most visible sign that Texas is wrangling control of border security from the federal government.

Starting point is 01:30:09 Governor Abbott announced the state is building a forward operating base for the Texas military department. To forward operating base. Here, play my clip. Texas base camp. Well, forward operating base is a very militaristic term. Texas Governor Greg Abbott says he wants to build a military base camp at the southern border. Base camp. It will support the state's efforts to limit the number of people crossing illegally into the U.S. from Mexico. The 80-acre base camp would hold up to 2,300 National Guard troops.

Starting point is 01:30:41 All right, but here's what's really happening. I don't have a clip, but someone this morning sent me an article from Tucson. Tucson will see homelessness on steroids as migrant aid funds dry up. And this is mainly the Catholic Community Services. Remember, all of the State Department department wait are you i'm not gonna try to guess what you're gonna say but are you going to and i'm just thinking about this on the fly suggest that this aid package that's so important about the border is to refill all the ngo monies? Yes. And that's why I think if Mike Johnson is really smart, that's why he's keeping it at bay, because now we're seeing the wheels come off of everything. And the first

Starting point is 01:31:33 one that I've gotten here, it even says the Senate's failed bipartisan border security package, co-sponsored by Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona, would have appropriated $1.4 billion to support temporary shelters for migrants through the Catholic Community Services NGO. And by the way, it's the Catholic bishops. It's the Jewish migrant resettlement. It's all these faith-based migrant resettlement. They know how to do it. Accumulating money.

Starting point is 01:32:09 Yes, and it's thousands per uh per migrant so that would explain why maybe mike johnson is trying to keep this at bay to show that it all comes apart if we don't have that money because it's not to stop people from coming in it's to you know put them hide them put them in shelters and then i get this from chicago illinois one of our producers said he's going to apply for this operations focal point flight management in chicago international organization for migration also known as the iom amy pope former state department chill who was running that what exactly will you do in this? What are the responsibilities for this candidate, which is $5,500 per month, actually $5,508.33, undertake flight management activities in an assigned area, such as leading teams as they meet and assist flights, meeting and assisting

Starting point is 01:32:58 small groups and individual arrivals, organizing transit and ground transportation, undertaking air ticket validation procedures, and completing administrative duties as required, monitor and guide teams of operation clerks and operations assistants in completing flight management activities. This is a job from the United Nations job. Yeah. International office or organization for migration in Chicago. Why don't we just throw the United Nations out of the country? This operation is out to get us.

Starting point is 01:33:32 Yes. Well, no, they're not out to get us. They are doing this because they know that we need to meet that $7 trillion mark that the office of, what is it, the OCB, the accounting office of the government, we had that report. They said, oh, it looks like we'll have a windfall as long as we keep migration. Jerome Powell, the Federal Reserve Chief, said, no, it's great. Immigration is great. It's great. It's what we need. We got smart ones coming. They're Chinese, man. We got the smart ones. They work cheap.

Starting point is 01:34:09 They're smart. They're motivated. They're coming across the border. Their clothes are clean. Their shoes are clean. They're taking an Uber. We're being screwed. And here's NPR, just to back it up, that the migrant crossings are down because the money's drying up.

Starting point is 01:34:26 The number of migrants trying to cross the U.S. Mexico border went down by 50 percent in January. Sounds like a pretty significant drop. Why did that happen? It is a pretty steep dip. I mean, for context, in December, authorities encountered over 249,000 migrants crossing the border unauthorized. That's the highest monthly total ever recorded, according to preliminary statistics by the Department of Homeland Security. In January, they encountered over 124,000. Why? So what we know is that border crossings are very cyclical. And January is a slow month because of weather. But think about what's been going on

Starting point is 01:35:05 in the U.S. in the last few months. All these really heated arguments about the need to increase border enforcement and deportations. I spoke to Adam Isaacson from the Washington office on Latin America about how that sparked rumors that the U.S. was closing down its border. Migrants were. This is a lie, by the way. This is the national public radio lie. It's because the money is not being passed. Without the money, all these groups can't operate. But okay, let's just say, oh, people are scared because, oh, things are weird in Washington.

Starting point is 01:35:39 Widely believing. As if they know that something was going to happen at the end of December, and you had to get in before the end of the year. That's the budget end. It's a combination of word of mouth and also some messaging from smugglers saying, go now, go now, be my customer now. So basically it led to a let's get ahead of this and run in December, and then a drop in January. Was there any change in U.S. enforcement on the border that could have led to it?

Starting point is 01:36:08 Well, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas has said border enforcement agents didn't have the funding to secure the border in the month of December. So that's why you saw such high numbers. Congress has failed to provide additional funding for major changes in border enforcement. And money for these organizations. So what we're seeing again is seasonal dips, rumors of a border shutdown, and some more enforcement in Mexico. Also, the Biden administration restarted deportation flights back to Venezuela and other countries, which has sent a message. Remember that there's a global appeal going on by Amy Pope for the IOM.

Starting point is 01:36:49 Complex situations are driving higher levels of migration all over the world. They are delivering new challenges that test our existing ways of working and require a much more strategic approach in both the short term and the long term. It brings us to a critical moment, not just for IOM or our member states, but for the people that we serve, for those who have moved, for those who are going to move, or those who will be on the move in the future. The world is increasingly relying on IOM. And our budget has grown, but the need for our help

Starting point is 01:37:28 has grown even faster. So send us money. $7.9 billion she needs. And then this? Okay, well, we don't have them coming in from the border, so according to the Washington Post, WAPO,

Starting point is 01:37:42 DHS is planning a mass release of illegals. we need more workers but what to be cheap to be cheap here uh the washington post reports the u.s immigration and customs enforcement has drafted plans to release thousands of immigrants and slash its capacity to hold detainees after the failure of a senate border bill that would have erased 700 million dollars of budget shortfall they're out of money i mean with that and and meanwhile we're making our kids trans we're giving them cereal that's killing them.

Starting point is 01:38:27 It's making them not work. The sex organs aren't working. And they're all afraid of climate change. So this is what you get. We have about nine months until the election. People should start making babies really quick. Let's get to it, people. Well, this brings me to a kind of a propagandistic good news clip, which I have.

Starting point is 01:38:47 Early? No, this was part of i was i had it was a decision making process as to what clip i was going to play at the end okay okay but this one has to do with what we're talking about now and i think it's the time to play it because it's not that great of a clip anyway it's just just the longer of the two. All right. This is the Haitian immigrant. This is a proper, I looked at this clip and I said, this is a kind of a piece of propaganda where a woman in Brookline and among others is being encouraged to take in immigrants. This is like a thing that's going to be pushed. This is my thought on this.

Starting point is 01:39:24 It's going to be pushed. Take in an thought on this. It's going to be pushed. Take in an immigrant. In this case, she could take in, she took in a Haitian family who now is their servants, free servants, cooks for... Oh, wait a minute. I think I'm going to get in on this action.

Starting point is 01:39:39 I'm liking this. Look after the dog. Walk the dog. Yeah. Walk the dog. I think there's an element of slavery involved here that looks like it's good uh humanitarian humanitarian slavery is the only way i can describe it here we go she felt bad as any mother would now things are looking much brighter as

Starting point is 01:39:58 they've been welcomed into lisa hillenbrand's bro Brookline apartment. She says her daughter is very happy. When she wakes up in the morning, she says, hi, Lisa, and everyone starts the day smiling. It's a delight, and it's really fun having them. What I realized is there's so much prejudice against refugees, mostly because people don't know them. Lisa says she feels like she has her own personal chef, as Wildande loves cooking. Do you like the occupation?

Starting point is 01:40:37 Yes. In fact, her goal is to open up her own restaurant. I want to have my own restaurant. The couple has their work permits and they've been taking English classes. They're open to work anywhere to save money for their future. In the meantime,

Starting point is 01:40:56 they're enjoying their time with Lisa, their new friend for life, and their daughter's new grandmother. They are hardworking. They want to learn. They want to be successful. And I feel great helping, and I get to understand the refugee crisis from the inside. Lisa says she's so impressed by the number of people

Starting point is 01:41:18 she's met right here at Brookline Town Hall meetings who've been stepping up and hosting families. She's hopeful more will do the same in the coming days and weeks. In Brookline, Erin Logan, NBC10 Boston. All right, the need for more migrant shelters in Massachusetts is something we've been following really closely. You can find more information about this and find out how you can actually help on our website, NBC10Boston.com. Good news, good, good news, good news, good, good news. Good news. Good, good news. Good news. Well, I think, okay, I think that they should put into the, now here's how you get the bill

Starting point is 01:41:50 passed, Mike Johnson. You put in there that you will pay me as an American citizen to take in one of these families to be my servants. Now you've got a plan. I get some nice Asian cooking. What amount of money would it take for you to do the to do that oh not much let's just say it's a family uh the husband wife and two kids no no no no the kids i don't want kids i can only have husband and wife

Starting point is 01:42:18 no kids husband and wife and uh you know she can cook and clean and he can stand guard. Or garden. Oh, he can garden and stand outside with an AR-15 and garden a little bit. Keep the other immigrants away. Walk the dog. Keep the other immigrants away.

Starting point is 01:42:39 Yeah. Again, I asked the question, how much would it take? Not much. Come on, give me a number. I'll take the $5,500 a month. That's reasonable. Yeah, I think that's very reasonable. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:42:58 And I'll be helping out society. Yeah. And I'll be learning about the immigrant crisis from the inside. Yeah, exactly. And you learn a little Spanish. Yeah, And I'll be learning about the immigrant crisis from the inside. Exactly. And you learn a little Spanish. Yeah, learn some Spanish. Which, by the way, I thought the Haitians always spoke French. No, she was speaking French. She wasn't speaking Spanish.

Starting point is 01:43:15 Well, it wasn't any French I've ever heard. It was French. It was kind of in between. But Haitians, they kind of have the same kitchen as Jamaicans. So they got like jerk chicken and stuff. Yeah, they probably make terrific food. I bet it's great.

Starting point is 01:43:33 Yeah, this would be fantastic. Well, that would solve the crisis. Now, their kids, I mean, they just have to leave them in Haiti. Can't bring them over here this is the thinking i think you're on to something there is an element of slavery going on here yes totally but again the the bankers the true owners and and you know if you look at the imf yeah there's credits that each country gives but it's institutions and it's big banks and it's big money. And they lend out and they lend out to all these poor countries.

Starting point is 01:44:13 And if you don't pay, you know, you pay back. Oh, you got to pay. Oh, you got to have austerity. So they like controlling everything. And they like to have control over where people live and where the money goes. And so that's why they're encouraging this immigration into America and into Europe. Otherwise, they know that there's no more children being made. It's just not enough. This is what the former New York banker told me.

Starting point is 01:44:39 We beat China because our population is growing. It's so good that they're sending their healthy military aged men to us. Well, a few. Yeah, but it's a start. It's the beginning. That's what's going on. It's nothing else. It's not like they're going to, you know, it's not like they're spies. They're going to take over the country from the inside. No, it's great here. We just need people who can work, who want to work cheap. Yeah. And they don't expect a hundred thousand dollars a year right out of high school exactly and and and these people they don't want to be influencers they don't want to be youtubers i'm gonna be an influencer these people don't want to do that. That's what's going, that is the reality of our world, people.

Starting point is 01:45:28 And, you know, and the problem is we get such hardened hearts by what's going on. Then we have no compassion. This at least is compassionate. Well, we're talking about compassion. I have a new series of clips called Crap Collection. Oh, well, we need a jingle for that. Yeah, somebody should come up with that. Okay. Crap Collection. Crap Collection. Oh, well, we need a jingle for that. Yeah, somebody should come up with that. Okay.

Starting point is 01:45:46 Crap Collection. Crap Collection. All right. I have two clips for today's collection. Oh, good. They're just pathetic. I've said this before about Drew Barrymore. I think she's a phony.

Starting point is 01:45:59 Don't like her show. She's too much. You actually watch the show? I catch it once in a while and I kind of freeze in time. My jaw drops and I can't get to turn it off fast enough. But here, this was floating around

Starting point is 01:46:15 the internet, this clip. When I was reading... Wait, wait, wait. Then toss to it properly. I'm doing what I... You didn't, weren't, yeah. She's with Michelle Obama. Oh, big money. And she's got Michelle's new book in her hands. And I don't know what the book's about.

Starting point is 01:46:37 And this could be an old clip when Michelle first came out with another book. But I don't know. But this is the kind of thing that bugs me about Drew Barrymore. She's full of crap, full of herself. She's too much. But when I was reading this book at night and coming home from work, which we take with us. So anyone who compartmentalizes, you know, personal and professional, my hat's off to you because usually it bleeds all together for me. And I would hold your book to my chest at night. And I would wish that I was in your family, that you were my mom or my sister.

Starting point is 01:47:12 And I, I feel like everybody feels like that. Yeah. That's what she does. Remember the Dylan Mulvaney and she got on her knees. Dylan Mulvaney was on her knees to dylan oh you're so wonderful as a girl and so the other crap clip i have for today is uh this one i think came up from it somebody posted this somewhere i didn't get it from the show because i don't really watch step Colbert that much. But this is Stephen. This is an example. This is beyond Trump derangement syndrome. This is a person who needs

Starting point is 01:47:50 needs serious help. I know. Oh, yeah. You just jump in the gun. You want me to get through these clips. Here we go. I know. I know how numb we've become, but it's not normal. No other candidate for the presidency has ever had to pause his campaign to defend himself in multiple courts. And I would like to point out that in all seven of his cases, no one, no one doubts that he did these things. We're just sitting around patiently waiting to find out if the wheels of justice will grind fast enough for there to be any consequences. And the media is covering it like it's any other political story like it's all horse race wow steven spun up colbert steven spun up colbert wow that's not funny he's not funny well he's lost it i have some crap clips if you're gonna do that i mean yes i would i love crap clips cnn. Cupp, haven't heard from her in a while. This is the really amazing trick that Donald Trump has managed to pull off.

Starting point is 01:48:50 First, he managed to get conservatives to stop caring about conservatism. Then he got Christians to stop caring about, like, Scripture, the Bible. What would Jesus do? Now Jesus is woke. Whoa, hold on a second. I missed the memo. Jesus is woke. All right, on a second. I missed the memo. Jesus is woke. All right.

Starting point is 01:49:06 He got Republicans and Americans to stop caring about America and what democracy should mean. What is she talking about? Trump. He got, you know, the patriotic, you know, military loving far right to stop caring about national security and caring about our servicemen and women, our troops. I mean, it's it's a feat what Donald Trump has done to the right in this country in a very short period of time. It's amazing. What is she talking about? A feat, a feat. I think she's talking about this clip from NBC about feet. Donald Trump out of the courthouse and back on the road tonight.

Starting point is 01:49:50 This is a big crowd. Appearing at SneakerCon in Philadelphia. We're going to remember the young people and we're going to remember SneakerCon. You're sneakerheads, right? Less than 24 hours after a New York judge ordered Trump and his company to pay more than $350 million in damages for years of fraudulent business practices and lying about the value of his properties, the former president took today to promote a money-making deal, having struck a naming rights agreement for a limited-edition sneaker line, the most expensive pair in the series selling for 399

Starting point is 01:50:27 that's the real deal that's the real deal you know there's never a report about air jordans costing five six hundred dollars oh no trump he's at sneaker no less. This guy knows how to market SneakerCon. We need sneakers. No agenda shop. We need sneakers. We should have no agenda sneakers. Yeah, we should have sneakers. Why not? Kids love it. They buy them. They trade them. It's great.

Starting point is 01:50:57 No agenda sneakers. I don't think... You were going to finish your thought. There's a cure for some cancer. No, I was not ready to go to cancer. I was going to stay with Trump for a moment. Well, I have the three by three if you want to do Trump's stupid court case. Oh, you got Fannie Willis?

Starting point is 01:51:22 No, no, this is the New York case where you got fined $350 million. Oh, well, let me do... Because he's broke. So if you fine him, the guy's broke. So let's fine him $350 million. Let me do the Fonny Willis first, because that's funny. That's just funny. Yeah, I don't have any Fonny Willis. By the way, when did it become funny?

Starting point is 01:51:40 Where's the W? Because Fanny doesn't sound right. And the BBC can't say fanny. Yeah, it's a comment I can make right there that would be quite offensive. We know that in Britain, fanny is not a word you can say on the radio. It's buttocks.

Starting point is 01:51:58 No, not in, no. In England, fanny is vagene. Is that right? Yes, the vagina is fanny in England. I know. Those guys are very confused. They got it wrong. Just so you know, you got it wrong, Brits.

Starting point is 01:52:17 It's the wrong side. Just saying. So this is Anderson 3 Cooper with Tom Foreman. A stunning and fiery day in court. A Spalding County District Attorney Fonny Willis took the stand to defend herself and her case. You're confused. You think I'm on trial. These people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. In one explosive exchange after another,

Starting point is 01:52:42 she explained her romantic relationship with the prosecutor she hired to lead the election fraud case. And she tore into the legal team around former President Trump and his allies. It's highly offensive when someone lies on you, and it's highly offensive when they try to implicate that you slept with somebody the first day you met with them, and I take exception to it. At issue in the hearing were two key questions. First, when did her romantic relationship with special prosecutor Nathan Wade begin? Let's be clear. 2022 was the start of any intimate sexual relationship with a district attorney. While Wade testified that the romance started when the investigation of Trump and his intimate sexual relationship with a district attorney.

Starting point is 01:53:29 While Wade testified that the romance started when the investigation of Trump and his co-defendants was well underway, a one-time mutual friend, Robin Yerty, insisted it started way back in 2019. Did you observe them do things that are common among people having a romantic relationship? Yes. Such as? Can you give us an example? Hugging, kissing, disaffection. Willis' take? At that time, she and Wade were friends, nothing more. And as for that contrary testimony?

Starting point is 01:54:02 I have not spoken to Robin in over a year. I certainly do not consider her a friend now. Now, I want to remind everybody, I want to remind everybody that Mo said Mo from Mo Fax. He said this is happening with black women across the board. They put them in. It was DEI. You get the position. Now you got to prove it. And otherwise, you're all out. You're all going to be taken down. And this is the destruction of a black woman in public because Trump can't be taken down. She is going to be the fall guy for this. It'll be her fault.

Starting point is 01:54:39 And everyone just say, oh, the black lady did it. That is Moe's position. And I think he's right. And I have another clip. One I'm surprised by, I think it's in this clip, he keeps talking about Team Trump. Is it Trump's lawyers who are, isn't this a case about a marriage? Isn't this a divorce proceeding? There's two proceedings going on. particular proceeding and it's not trump but it's one of the co-defendants yeah that brought this forward and then the the other

Starting point is 01:55:16 case which is the divorce case brought out the documents that were necessary to take this yeah so there's a combination of things going on here. And Trump's really not the one involved. But the way she sees everything is Trump. But it's also the way Anderson 360 with Tom Foreman sees it. The second key question. Did the district attorney financially benefit by choosing her romantic partner to lead the election fraud case? her romantic partner to lead the election fraud case. Team Trump came in saying Wade used money from that appointment to take Willis on trips to California, Aruba, Belize, the Bahamas, and more.

Starting point is 01:55:52 But hold on, Wade said. Willis paid him back in cash for all that travel. What I'll add is that our travel was split roughly evenly. A line he held even as Team Trump drilled in. I'm sure you probably have the deposit slips where you took the cash and deposited the cash into your account, don't you? I did not deposit the cash in my account. You don't have a single solitary deposit slip to corroborate or support any of your allegations that you were paid by Mrs. Willis in cash, do you? No, sir.

Starting point is 01:56:28 Not a single solitary one? Not a one. And Willis was right there with him, dismissing the claims of financial shenanigans. I mean, I paid for the hotel. I paid for the flights. I had a birthday luncheon for him. I paid for massages. I paid for everything. And as for always repaying in cash... I had money in my house. You had money in your house. So it was just money that was there.

Starting point is 01:56:51 When you meet my father, he's going to tell you as a woman, you should always have, which I don't have, so let's don't tell him that. You should have at least six months in cash at your house at all times. She also batted down questions about sensitive

Starting point is 01:57:05 personal matters. I'm not going to emasculate a black man, but I'm just telling you. I'm sorry, what? I'm not going to emasculate a black man. Did you understand that? And slapped away so much of what Team Trump said. No, no, no, no. This is the truth, Judge. It is a lie. It is a lie. No, no, no, no. This is the truth, Judge. It is a lie. It is a lie. Man, she's talking about, oh, sometimes I have $9,000 in cash. Yeah, she sounds like a drug dealer.

Starting point is 01:57:33 And it's fungible. I had it for my campaign. As you remember, you played a clip, just a short out of the blue clip, where she said she skimmed money from her campaign yeah yeah and none of the media has picked this up or said anything about it this is a violation you can't your campaign money is not something you can just pocket i mean it's it's sad because this is the end of the road for DEI. This is how it ends. You're an optimist. You would mow both in this case.

Starting point is 01:58:11 What I mean, it's sad for these high-profile black women, and we'll see more of this. They're the same people who say, oh, no. Oh, yes, we've got to have a black woman on the Supreme Court. We've got a black woman here, black woman there. Black, black, black woman, black woman. Now it's like the black lady did it. That's what's happening here.

Starting point is 01:58:31 Well, she brought it on herself. And you saw it with Sonny Austin. I have no sympathy for her. Sonny Austin, the same way. Who gets taken down? Well, she deserved it, too. Yes, but this is my point. She was deluded.

Starting point is 01:58:44 Yeah, well, but this is what's happening. I'm just saying that. And Sonny Hoskins is going nowhere. She sells a big, you know, good salary working at The View. Yeah, I think. Except that Whoopi can now lord it over her. That's right. That's right.

Starting point is 01:59:02 We were watching the old Cheers episode. I keep looking at ted dance and thinking really man remember remember he uh did he they were they didn't marry did they they were dating no no they broke up right after he came into the party with blackface oh that's right forgot about that genius genius well that's one way to break up with with whoopie so we can do um i have a a quick three-parter on uh from npr which is very npr ish about the tech companies and ai and then we or and then we could do three by three or three by three first whatever you want uh well we could do three by we don't even this three by three is a minor uh a minor one except

Starting point is 01:59:46 the fact i'm always amused by the fact that nobody wants to none of the mainstream media wants to discuss the fact that most of this case in new york is fraud case he didn't defraud anybody nobody brought the case forward it's great and and the biggest element of it was what they consider a misstatement of the value of Mar-a-Lago. Which is in Florida. Which is in Florida, which has got nothing to do with anything, but it has to do with his business doing dealings in New York. And he says Mar-a-Lago, which is a monstrous facility in Palm Beach, is worth one point something billion. And the judge refuses to accept that because he says that's a lie. It's worth 18 million, which is like a house in San Francisco.

Starting point is 02:00:39 And so I'm thinking this three by three would be interesting to see if we can spot somebody actually bringing that up. And now it's time for 3x3. Here we go, everybody. Experiment by JCD. It's a long-running experiment. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC. The never-ending 3x3. That's right.

Starting point is 02:01:00 This is where we check them out. The three big networks. Plus. Is there a plus? Yes, yes. You have a plus. You've got Turkish radio and television plussing today. Well, the three big networks. Plus, is there a plus? Yes, yes, you have a plus. You've got Turkish radio and television plussing today. Well, it looks like it.

Starting point is 02:01:09 TRT, TRT. All right, let's listen to the nat pops, the human pops. Let's see how it goes as we compare the big machine of news. ABC. Tonight's ruling strikes at the heart of Donald Trump's image, carefully crafted for decades. The former president fined a staggering $355 million and banned from doing business for three years in New York, the city where he built his fortune and made his name. The judge determining Trump flagrantly overvalued his signature properties in order to get favorable bank loans and insurance rates, things everyday Americans would never get away with.

Starting point is 02:01:41 Donald Trump may have authored the art of the deal, but he perfected the art of the steal. Oh, whoa, whoa. I hope everyone had that quote. The court once again ruled in our favor and in favor of every hardworking American who plays by the rules. The most high profile examples of fraud, the Trump Tower penthouse,

Starting point is 02:02:04 the Trump organization inflated its-profile examples of fraud, the Trump Tower penthouse. The Trump organization inflated its value by some $200 million, declaring it was 30,000 square feet. But Trump signed a document certifying it's a third that size, 11,000 square feet. And while Trump claimed his Mar-a-Lago resort was worth up to $600 million, its true assessed value was no more than $27 million. Today, Judge Arthur N. Gorin writing, Trump's complete lack of contrition and remorse borders on pathological, calling Trump incapable of admitting the error of his ways. The former president attended 10 days of the trial.

Starting point is 02:02:37 This trial is ridiculous. And on the witness stand, he attacked Judge N. Gorin to his face, complaining, this is a very unfair trial. I hope the public is watching. In his ruling today, the judge knocked Trump's testimony for long, irrelevant speeches, adding his refusal to answer the questions directly or in some cases at all severely compromised his credibility. Moments ago, Trump lashing out. It's a sad day for, in my opinion, the country. A crooked New York state judge just ruled that I have to pay a fine of $355 million for having built the perfect company. Great cash, great buildings, great everything.

Starting point is 02:03:15 Question. So this, of course, goes to appeal, which just costs more money. Does he have to pay the fine right away, or does it wait until... No, of course not. Alright, alright. So it's just... Just a pain in the butt. You know, so this is another black woman who was pushed to the forefront. This... Letitia.

Starting point is 02:03:36 Letitia James. She's going to take the fall for this too. You can see it coming down Main Street. Well, she's very cocky. So, let's go to nbc tonight a crushing blow to the trump family's real estate empire a judge in new york handing down a more than 350 million dollar civil penalty against donald trump plus interest for lying about his wealth for financial gain, barring him from obtaining loans in the state for three years, banning Mr. Trump's adult sons from running any

Starting point is 02:04:12 company for two years, ordering they pay more than four million dollars each. Today, justice has been served. Today, we prove that no one is above the law. The former president tonight assailing the decision was above the law. These Chinese were coming in over the border. They're above the law. That's who's above the law. And slamming the suit brought by New York's Democratic attorney general. These are radical left Democrats. They're lunatics. And it's election interfering. If I weren't running, none of this stuff would have ever happened. With no jury at trial, today's ruling left solely in the hands of Judge Arthur N. Gorin, who decided the heart of the state's fraud case months ago,

Starting point is 02:04:51 finding the Trump family wrongly exaggerated the value of some of its most iconic properties on financial statements to receive better deals on bank loans. This trial was to sort out the penalty. Mr. Trump and his adult children all took the witness stand in the hopes of fending off a decision with massive consequences for their real estate portfolio and family legacy. I became president because of the grant. Mr. Trump's defense team arguing there was no victim. The banks were repaid and testified they did not rely on Mr. Trump's valuations.

Starting point is 02:05:26 The former president's attorneys had implored the judge not to impose a fine akin to the corporate death penalty. But today, the judge writing, quote, Donald Trump is not Bernie Madoff. Yet defendants are incapable of admitting the error of their ways. Instead, they adopt a see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil posture that the evidence belies. I thought that they literally compared him to Bernie Madoff

Starting point is 02:05:54 in a different stage. I thought I heard that. I don't remember that either. I thought it was Trump Madoff. While you were doing that? Yeah, no, listen. Listen toMadoff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, listen. Listen to this, man.

Starting point is 02:06:09 Listen to this. Hold on a second. I was sitting in court, and we were just leaving. Everything was wrapping up. MSNBC. Judge N'Goran, right at the end, the Attorney General, had wrapped up their arguments. And Judge N'Goran had one question. um their arguments and judge and goran had one question and he looked at the lawyer for the attorney general and he says how does this case compare to bernie madoff ah wow and i went wow

Starting point is 02:06:36 he literally he literally did that okay pretty poor reporting what from an nbc product i'm surprised these clips are too long these are all almost two minutes i mean yes well i i'm going to uh rebuke the jones the jones the jones boys for providing clips that are too long well especially, especially for a three by three. It's just too long. And is CBS the best one? They're hard to cut down. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:07:11 Yeah. But let's listen to the last two and then we'll be done. Well, thank you very much. Tonight, a potentially crushing blow to Donald Trump's business empire and bank account. The former president ordered to pay more than $350 million and banned from running a business in New York or applying for loans in the state for three years. His two sons each fined $4 million and barred from doing business in New York for two years, thrusting the leadership of the family company into peril. Being prohibited from doing business in your home state or the state where you have so many properties and so many business activities is an absolutely devastating sanction.

Starting point is 02:07:50 Trump lawyer Alina Haba called the verdict a manifest injustice and said an appeal battle is coming. The former president reacted late today. It's a very sad day for, in my opinion, the country. It's a sad day for, in my opinion, the country. He needs to, okay, I don't know why, or I guess, is this the only statement he made? Because he made a statement in a hallway, the acoustics are bad. It's just not good. It's not good. He needs to do better micing on the statements. New York State judge just ruled, and he's crooked as you can get.

Starting point is 02:08:21 And a lot of people expected something like this, but not for the amount. In his ruling, Judge Arthur Gordon... Holdthur in a second unless that was edited the trump's comment the way he said it was the judge ruled that he was as crooked as you can get a very funny oh that's interesting the former president reacted late today it's a very sad day for, in my opinion, the country. A New York State judge just ruled, and he's crooked as you can get. And a lot of people expected something like this, but not for the amount. In his ruling, Judge Arthur N. Gorin said of Trump and the other defendants, their complete lack of remorse borders on pathological. This whole thing is very unfair.

Starting point is 02:09:05 That's really psychological, this CBS report. Now they're pulling something from like the Barbara Walters interview. This is good. On Trump himself, who took the stand two times, the judge said his refusal to answer the questions directly, or in some cases at all, severely compromised his credibility. Judge Angoran had already ruled that Trump and his sons and company executives committed years of business fraud, fraudulently inflating their

Starting point is 02:09:31 assets to boost the former president's net worth, including his Trump Tower penthouse and Mar-a-Lago, exaggerating its value by as much as 2,300 percent. Today's penalty caps a three-month trial Thank you very much. to him she's been watching billions too much she thinks she's chuck chuck now from from billions attorney general well you did catch the the weakness of all these reports which is the only abc used that quote where she says his art of the deal is the art of the steel yeah which which was a good a good catch but none of the other networks played it so let's play the turkish the international this shows you that the international media is just as bad as right on board with him he's the leading presidential candidate for the republican party but donald trump's campaigning schedule has taken a back seat to courtroom appearances as was intended

Starting point is 02:10:40 and legal challenges he claims the cases are politically motivated these are corrupt people and they're using this as weaponization against a political opponent who's up a lot in the polls and always will be on friday a new york judge ordered donald trump pay 355 million dollars in penalties for defrauding lenders for more than a decade i don't think i heard a single one of the the three og three by threes mentioning that this will be up for appeal did anyone even mention that not in these but i've heard it i know but that's the whole point is yeah you'd think they would mention instead of conclude that he's out 350 million exactly the former president has also been banned from doing business in New York for three years.

Starting point is 02:11:29 His sons and co-defendants were also hit with fines and two-year bans on doing business in the state. But the judge stopped short of canceling Trump's business licenses, which some say could have ended his business empire. The massive penalty is the result of a civil lawsuit brought by New York's attorney general. Justice has been served. Today we prove that no one is above the law. No matter how rich, powerful, or politically connected you are, everyone must play by the same rules. Prosecutors say he lied about the value of his assets,

Starting point is 02:12:03 like a Trump Tower apartment reported at nearly three times its actual size. Trump has denied any wrongdoing. These are radical left Democrats. They're lunatics. And it's election interfering. So I just want to thank you for being here. We'll appeal. We'll be successful.

Starting point is 02:12:21 Oh, there it is. The civil fraud case could deal a major blow to trump's real estate empire it comes after he was ordered to pay just over 83 million dollars in a separate defamation case uh it's just filling time at this point that's all they're doing just filling time they've got some trump news yeah all it does is just put trump on the front he's everyone wants him to be president everybody Everybody wants him in there. Except NATO. But even NATO.

Starting point is 02:12:48 They're like, okay, okay. We'll pay the 2%. Just let us do our thing. I think this is something that nobody else has caught. I'll give you this one. Which is the idea that he makes a big fuss at NATO to make sure everybody catches up with their dues to pay their fair share. This is just more money. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:13:09 And, you know, obviously that's more money for us. And I'm going to let you the Russians attack if you don't pay. It's so insane. And, you know, and let's all run around and post about it. Hey, man, it's crazy. Oh, it's crazy. I have three quick clips before we take a break. By the way, this is a Value for Value program,

Starting point is 02:13:31 so we'll be taking a break where we thank people who've supported us with value for the value we believe we provide. We've certainly been doing it for a couple of years, and people do provide value back. So there's something in the formula that's working, which is go out and hit people in the mouth. NPR reported in the only way NPR can, especially when it comes to tech,

Starting point is 02:13:52 they bring in a whole new level of talkers on NPR. And this is the agreement that the technology companies who are all in Munich have agreed to, well, we'll take action against a deceptive AI. Meanwhile, buy our AI, $20 a month, get our AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI. More than 40 countries are set to hold major elections this year, and many experts worry that rapidly evolving artificial intelligence technologies could disrupt those votes. Just a few weeks ago, an apparent deep fake robocall that sounded like President Joe Biden told people not to vote in New Hampshire. Today, 20 major tech companies announced they are going to do their part to avoid becoming the story. Joining us now to talk through this new agreement are NPR's Shannon Bond,

Starting point is 02:14:42 who covers how information travels, and Miles Parks, who covers voting. Wait, wait. Wait, she covers... How information travels? She covers her beat. Her beat is how information travels? Isn't that great? I want that beat.

Starting point is 02:14:58 That's a good beat. That's a great beat. Joining us now to talk through this new agreement are NPR's Shannon Bond, who covers how information travels. You have to say it right, though. How information travels. And Miles Parks, who covers voting.

Starting point is 02:15:10 Hello, y'all. Hello, y'all. Hey, how you doing? Hey, John. Hey, hi. Hey, hi. Ho, ho. Hi, there.

Starting point is 02:15:14 Hi, Juana. Hello. Shannon, I want to start with you. Tell us about this agreement. What's in it? What's in it? Well, it's aimed at AI-generated images, audio, and video that could deceive voters. aimed at AI-generated images, audio, and video that could deceive voters. So whether that's by impersonating a candidate doing or saying something they didn't

Starting point is 02:15:29 or misleading people about when or how to vote. And the companies are agreeing to some pretty broad commitments here to develop technology to watermark AI content and to detect and label these kind of fakes. They're pledging to be more transparent about how their tools and platforms are being used. They want to educate the public about AI. Many of these actions are things some of these companies are already working on. And what's notable here, Juana,

Starting point is 02:15:54 is that this agreement does not outright ban this kind of deceptive use of AI in elections. Oh, comedy is saved. It does not outright ban it. No, in fact, this is just voluntary. Right. Okay, let's dig in a little bit here. Does this agreement actually...

Starting point is 02:16:10 John, can we dig in here a little bit? I'm looking forward to it. Let's dig in here a little bit. Right. Okay, let's dig in a little bit here. Does this agreement actually bind these companies to do anything? Or is this more of like a mission statement? Yeah, this is a voluntary agreement.

Starting point is 02:16:25 So it's not binding. And remember, just because companies create policies about AI doesn't mean they always effectively enforce them. Now, this agreement came together in just the past six weeks. And in many ways, you know, it seems like it had to be pretty broad to get this many companies to agree. We spoke with Microsoft President Brad Smith today. Didn't he run the Xbox division, Brad Smith? Was he the gaming guy? I forgot his history. I think it was the gaming guy. He's been there for a while. Let's talk to the billionaire at Microsoft. Spoke with Microsoft President Brad Smith today. He said that Unity itself is an accomplishment. We all want and need to innovate. We want and need to compete with each

Starting point is 02:17:05 other. But it's also just indispensable that we acknowledge and address the problems that are very real, including to democracy. Oh, it's a problem for democracy. Oh, Brad, save us. Indeed, even as these companies, including Microsoft, are saying they're on guard over risks of AI, they're also continuing to roll out even more advanced technology. Like just yesterday, OpenAI, one of the other companies that signed this agreement, they announced this tool that allows you to type in a simple text description to create a really realistic high definition video. Of us as golden retrievers podcasting on a snowy mountain.

Starting point is 02:17:43 But... Hey, somebody send me a link to this it's all over keep referring to it oh i'm shoving it in your face i can't believe you haven't seen this the final clip justifies me once more walk us through if you can like some of those scenarios yeah i asked smith from microsoft about this and he said specifically he's worried about people using ai to dub over real videos with fake audio. That could be a lot more convincing to people than creating a whole new video. But there's also a bigger picture worry that I heard percolating at this conference last week, that as more fake stuff is swirling online, the public will slowly lose trust in all

Starting point is 02:18:19 information. That's one of the hardest aspects of this accord. The tech companies say they want the public to be more skeptical of what they see online, but that can lead to this feeling among people that nothing is true or real and bad actors. Go to no agenda. Listen now, stop talking over it. You just don't want to hear how right I am once again. Is true or real and bad actors can capitalize on that too, by then being able to claim that real information is fake. It's called the liar's dividend. There it is. With more AI-generated stuff floating around, it's just going to become more and more common

Starting point is 02:18:51 that candidates, when real bad information comes out about them, they can just say, no, that's fake AI-generated. What did he laugh for? What was the laugh tell for? Because he's... What he's laughing about is, hey, if I laugh now, John will talk over the punchline. No, he's laughed for some reason.

Starting point is 02:19:13 Well, listen, and maybe you'll find out. The liar's dividend with more AI generated stuff floating around. It's just going to become more and more common that candidates, when real bad information comes out about them, they can just say, no, that's fake. That's AI generated. Because that's exactly what we've been saying. That's exactly what's going to happen. That's why he's laughing about it. Oh, yeah, when bad stuff comes out, they'll just say it's AI. They all know it.

Starting point is 02:19:39 They're all in on it. And the tech companies just agreed to it. That's okay. It's not going to stop us from deconstructing the real news. Yeah, that's correct. If you want your deconstruction, you're at the right place. And with that, I'd like to thank you

Starting point is 02:19:54 for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in Clormaquat. Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeMora. Good morning to you, Mr. Ann Crane. And more ships, sea booths, and graphene. The air is so warm, it's a nice out there.

Starting point is 02:20:11 In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Let me count you for a second. 20. Oh, well, we have one more than last Sunday. Last Sunday, 2045. Today, 2046 trolls listening in live. We're on a roll. We call that an uptick in the biz, actually.

Starting point is 02:20:34 It's an uptick. Those trolls are listening at trollroom.io or maybe they're using a modern podcast app. It happens because they're cool. Podcastapps.com get all kinds of benefits, including being alerted when we go live, which is what a lot of these trolls are doing. And when we post the show,

Starting point is 02:20:53 90 seconds from posting the show, you get an alert, no waiting for an hour. And we got Drebscott doing the chapters and we have transcripts. You can search through it. And that also flows through to Bingit.io. We got a new Bingit.io coming out very soon. Now with AI.

Starting point is 02:21:07 It's going to be dynamite. You can search everything. This is all part of the value for value we give you on this show. And as you can tell, I'm not doing AI. No, Sir Denonymous is doing it. He's providing value back to the show. We have Sir Bemrose running the stream 24-7, providing value back to the show. We have Sir Bemrose running the stream 24-7, providing value back to the show. We got

Starting point is 02:21:28 Void Zero. Mark, he's running, he just upgraded our servers to Nix. We're on Nix now, John. Nix. Oh, we're on Nix? We're on Nix, baby. Yeah, Nix. Oh, I thought you Nix'd that. No, no. You're the one that approved it. Well, I guess I did.

Starting point is 02:21:43 You didn't read the memo you know why because actually it saves money i know i know and that's it's i love mark for that it's that kind of stuff yeah we also have other types of value that we get back from uh well in this case our artists artists are busy working away during every single show to create the perfect piece of podcast art that we can use, which will just blow everybody's socks off. They love the new art. It looks great on the website. It looks great in social media. It looks great in the podcast apps.

Starting point is 02:22:18 And we are one of the few podcasts anywhere that have new art for every single episode. And so we want to thank the Butthole Academy for the artwork for episode 1634. That's gross. Well, the artist's title is the Butthole Academy. I can't help it. Episode 1634, we titled that one Nukes in Space because because let's face it, that's what everybody wanted it to be. I mean, nukes in space, that's what we all had to hear about ad nauseum. Let's see what else was available.

Starting point is 02:22:56 Now, I like the Boo Bloons by Pickle Surprise. We were trying to do something that, so just to go back and uh tell everybody this artwork by the butthole academy we really liked we didn't want it we would have used it if um if the last show was closer to valentine's day uh since this one was right after valentine's day we couldn't really find anything that we liked as much this podcast hearts was just a great piece of work especially the the little slogans on the hearts uh promo code bongino like and subscribe nice vocal fry love your pod eat dog food i mean it was great it was just so in other words we literally uh rejected all the submitted art for the show. We did.

Starting point is 02:23:45 We did. Which has happened before. It happens about, I'd say, three or four times a year it happens. Yeah. And now I did. And now it's not as bad as when we have to literally go into the archives. Yeah, the evergreens. And scrounge around.

Starting point is 02:24:02 Yeah, that's really bad when that happens. Yeah, the evergreens. And scrounge around. Yeah, that's really bad when that happens. I liked the Boo Bloons from Pickle Surprise. Yes, I did not like that at all. No, no, I know. And ask me why.

Starting point is 02:24:17 Why did you not like it, John? It was bland. There you go. It was bland. There were some other... What you liked was the... And you used that It was bland. There were some other... What you liked was the... And you used that for the newsletter. The No Agenda 333 Spaceway. Which I...

Starting point is 02:24:32 Yeah, Crossroads. Yeah. I just couldn't get behind it, you know? You don't need to. You just look at it from the front. And the way this show works is there's a veto. You know? John approved the N show works is there's a veto. John approved the Nick servers.

Starting point is 02:24:47 I didn't veto. It happens. John wanted Spaceway, the crossroads. I vetoed. It didn't happen. I wanted the balloons. John didn't like it. It didn't happen. In fact, you said, you said, I like this one.

Starting point is 02:25:00 You said, no way, Jose, which i thought was somewhat offensive yeah you're well it's racist but you nailed the the voice that was spot on i'm so impressed thank you very much butthole academy for your for your um value that you provided back to the show it's uh i want to mention one more piece of art because you did mention this. Okay. The no agenda, there was a kind of a nice idea for a piece, which was the no agenda credit card from Darren O'Neill.

Starting point is 02:25:33 Yeah. But your comment was, it doesn't even look like a credit card. It does. It does. That's for you, Darren. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:25:43 No, it didn't. No, I agree. I didn't argue it was messy thanks you're absolutely right so there you go no veto no nicks that's it um that's our time and talent of the time talent and treasure for the value for value um noagendadonations.com gives you an idea of how you can support the show financially, which we obviously need. Low turnout today. We knew that. You did not throw a sad puppy. This is a holiday weekend in the U.S. and that somehow is celebrated all over the world.

Starting point is 02:26:13 And very few people donate. But we did have some diehard executive and associate executive producers who we really appreciate, including Sir Dude Named Ralph from Miami, who came in right away covering the PayPal fees on this donation. He says, this is 50728. Hello, John and Adam. I will cover the PayPal fees on this donation. Did you notice what the fees are? Yes. This is why we recommend sending checks to Box 339, Elrito california 94530 no agenda donations.com for the

Starting point is 02:26:50 rest of that information yes he uh so he wanted to send 481 88 bringing him to vicount which will give him a title upgrade so he had to send in 507 28 to cover the fees. Dude, this PayPal is a good business. It is. They make money. My birthday was on Valentine's Day. This is my gift to the best podcast in the universe. I humbly ask for a dose of Jobs Karma and some Rub-A-Lizer.

Starting point is 02:27:15 Sir dude named Ralph, PhD, suburban South Florida. India, tango, mic, standby, 33, 33, 33, rub-a-lizer out. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You stop. Sir Sala Hauser in Melbourne, Florida. 350-93. ITM, y'all. He writes, this donation is to celebrate turning 33. You know, it's amazing to me.

Starting point is 02:27:52 I've said this a million times. How many people are turning 33 this year? Every year. Every year, yes. You're right. You're right. It's the sweet spot of the No Agenda Show. It is the sweet spot of the No Agenda Show, the 33rd birthday.

Starting point is 02:28:08 On February 7th, he continues. And also increasing my revenue in 2023 by 32.8%. For my wealth management company. So close to 33. Close enough. I said round it up. I listen to y'all all day while in the office. Sales% for my wealth management company. Wow. So close to 33, he says. Close enough. I said round it up. I listen to y'all all day while in the office. Sales karma for all.

Starting point is 02:28:30 Sir Hala of the 321. You've got karma. The Sala Hauser. Sir Sala Hauser. The Dirty Geek. Dirty Geek. Sutter Creek, California. ITM longtime douchebag from a restaurant owner of Kana's Pub and Grub, Sutter Creek, and

Starting point is 02:28:50 Rosa's Cochina. Cocina, I think it is. I think it's Cochina, isn't it? Is it? Because one of them is a bad word. Either it's Cochina or Cocina. Well, I said them both. Fanny Fonny.

Starting point is 02:29:06 In California, Foothill Country. Where's the California Foothill Country? Oh, Sutter Creek, obviously. Sutter Creek, is that area? The whole foothills. Sierra Nevada foothills. I'd like to bid farewell and good luck with a 333 donation.

Starting point is 02:29:19 And he actually helped us out with the fees, 350.58. And by the way, stop. i think this happened with the other with the sir salah hauser and notice is 350 93 and 350 58 how does that work there's a difference of 40 cents or so i don't know i don't know 35 cents okay anyway sorry i'd like to bid farewell and good luck with a 333 donation to Sir Libre. Oh, I know Sir Libre. He's a big podcasting 2.0 guy. As he takes his chef skills and departs two of my restaurants to return to misery.

Starting point is 02:29:58 He almost gave me a 14-day notice, but cut it down to 13 days as he is doing a roundtable podcast with Adam on Tuesday. What's this? It's the Value for Value roundtable podcast. Jimmy V is hosting that, and I've been asked to join. I said I will join for one. Yeah, it's the podcasting 2.0, boys. We're on fire, man. Podcastapps.com, check it out.

Starting point is 02:30:24 Fire. Or podcast2.org if you want to know if you really wanted to learn podcast2.org i'll take my didouching my dedouching and some jobs karma as now i have more jobs to offer the dirty greek of sutter Creek. You've been de-douched. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Kent Berry in Dade City,

Starting point is 02:30:56 Florida, 34375. ITM, gentlemen, I was hit in the mouth several months ago, and the shame of living as a douchebag has become unbearable. I think he needs to de-douching. You've been de-douched. The V for V-up is very effective. Today, I'm relieved to finally begin my journey to knighthood and beyond. John, your analysis of the Schumer sham in episode 1632

Starting point is 02:31:25 was alone worth the donation. No jingles, no karmas. Just let Dame Jennifer pronounce me de-douched and she can do that, and play that funky bass lick. That's what we just did. That's Dame Jennifer by the way. Did you not

Starting point is 02:31:42 know that? I did not know that. Listen to it again. You've been deduced. We've been using this for 50 years. She has a tremendous voice. She does. She does. See the attached screenshot of my inbox.

Starting point is 02:31:59 She should do voiceover. She does. See the attached screenshot of my inbox total as I'm typing this email. Coincidence? Not likely. Keep cranking out the best podcasts in the universe and I'll be here. Thank you for your courage. Kent Berry, Dade City, Florida. Yeah, it was 33, obviously. Hey, David

Starting point is 02:32:15 Foley, Grand Duke, Los Gatos, California, 333.33. It's been a while since we heard from the Grand Duke. We should have a jingle for him. I was just about to say, don't we have a... Let me see.

Starting point is 02:32:30 I think there is one. It's a very short and sweet one. Just a quick announcement. Dames, knights, slaves, producers, and members of the chat room, please direct your attention to the 4K telescreens for another donation from the Grand Duke, David Foley. Woo! Thank you to Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia, the Grand Duke writes.

Starting point is 02:32:57 Kevin McLaughlin and all the other producers helping with their treasure. I have not been overboard, but working on stacking more treasure to share with the greatest podcast in the universe. No jingles, no karma. Thank you. Thank you, Sir David. It's good to hear from you, brother. Thank you. Joseph Lysle.

Starting point is 02:33:16 Lysle? Lysle. Lysle. What do you think? I think Lysle. He's in Calverton, New York. 222.22. First associate executive producer.

Starting point is 02:33:25 Jobs and F cancer karma to all who need it. If I only had enough time, talent, or treasure to donate. By the way, after this, I want to play a clip. Time or treasure to donate what you deserve for your exceptional work. A hearty thanks to you both and the lovely talented Dame Adrienne for hitting me, for hitting me. ITM, Night of Sandy

Starting point is 02:33:52 Parks. You want to play? Play this first and then I have a short clip cancer. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma this is the bonus material you get when you listen to the donation segment that's right this is uh showing how our medical institutions are looking after us in great and wonderful ways this is a new cure for a specific cancer and what would the title be of this clip probably cancer cure for cancer no it's bu cancer

Starting point is 02:34:35 with a b okay oh you can't be cancer and the food and drug administration has approved a novel cancer treatment to tackle an aggressive form of the deadly skin cancer melanoma. The treatment, called Amtagvi, uses a patient's own immune cells from the tumor. In clinical trials, more than 30% of participants had their tumors either shrink or disappear altogether. The maker of the treatment said the U.S. retail price is expected to be $515,000 per patient. Wow. Get that or Medicare. Wow.

Starting point is 02:35:14 That's a good clip. What a jip. That's a good clip. By the way, it is cocina. Rosa's cocina. Cocina. Yes. The way I pronounce it means pig something.

Starting point is 02:35:29 Told you. It was not good. All right. Well. Thank you for that. Then we have Jacob Long in Landenburg, Pennsylvania. And he has a switcheroo. Switcheroo for renegades damehood who gave birth to our first human resource on 11-24.

Starting point is 02:35:46 Please deduce the little man, Calvin Wyatt. You've been deduced. Welcome to Gitmo Nation, Calvin Wyatt. He's heard every show since March 23rd, including while he was in Renegade. Shout out to all the Flat Moon theorists. Hey, that's a new one. I got to join that group. Sounds like fun.

Starting point is 02:36:08 Flat Moon is a new one. New one to me. Why don't you get this one and I'll get the last one. Eli the Coffee Guy, Bensonville, Illinois. We know Eli the Coffee Guy because he's from Gigawatt Coffee Roasters. It's good stuff.

Starting point is 02:36:21 The jobs karma works. Yeah, we can tell. Thanks. Yes, it's working very well. Thanks jobs karma works. Yeah, we can tell. Thanks. Yes, it's working very well. Thanks to the power of Pelosi, we found a great new team member. This donation goes towards the damehood of my wife, Jen. Dame name to be determined. Well, when she's ready, then we'll hear about it.

Starting point is 02:36:41 And he says, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com. Use code ITM20 for 20% off your coffee order. And he ends up by saying, stay caffeinated. And we thank you very much. I could use some more coffee. We all have another can. I don't,

Starting point is 02:36:56 I'm out. Linda Lou Patkin, meanwhile, from Lakewood, Colorado is also up with a, with a promotion, $200 jobs, Carmen.

Starting point is 02:37:03 And for a competitive edge, go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. And she continues by saying that's imagemakersinc with a K. But just find Linda Lupatkin under the show's producer list. She can do that.

Starting point is 02:37:19 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. And that concludes our credits for the executive and associate executive producers for episode 1635 of the No Agenda Show. These are credits that are real, and you can use anywhere that show business credits and producer credits are recognized. We suggest your LinkedIn, your resume, if you're looking for that. And of course, you can always open up an IMDb account if you don't have one already, because you've already been an executive or associate executive producer. You can add it there. It's all recognized.

Starting point is 02:37:55 And if anyone questions these credits, let us know. We'll gladly vouch for you, unlike the douchebags in Hollywood. John's going to take us through the business. And I would say put it on a business card and use it on your email signature. Exactly. Your SIG, your.SIG file. Does anyone know what that means anymore? Your.SIG file. Nobody even says.SIG. We appreciate all of the value that people send in.

Starting point is 02:38:15 It doesn't matter how much. $5 could be an enormous amount for you. So we appreciate that. And remember that even $5 a monthers eventually become knights and dames on the show. John's going to take us through the 50s now with the names and locations. Yeah, Matthew Merlino starts us off from Sandy Springs, Georgia. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And he needs a de-douching.

Starting point is 02:38:39 You've been de-douched. Drop about 5 dBs on that, by the way. Stephen Shevlin in Southampton, Massachusetts, 8008. Kevin McLaughlin, there he is, in Concord, North Carolina, the Archduke of Luna. 8008, wouldn't it be funny, Rice, if breast implants came with squeaky toys inside them? I think that's, no, that's maybe. Or a phone. Adam Provencher, I think is the way it's pronounced in East York, Ontario.

Starting point is 02:39:15 69, 69. Kevin O'Brien, Sir Kevin in Chicago, Illinois. 606, small boobs. Oh, hold on. Where's the dangling in the dicks? It's gone. No one did it. I knew it wasn't going to last.

Starting point is 02:39:30 That's right. Fail. It's a fail. Robert Stokes, 5809. Sir Tigger Max in Viradale, Washington, 5678. He's visiting, he says. The money is for Adam to heat his house. Thank you.

Starting point is 02:39:48 He says, God, it's cold down here. 29 degrees. And he's coming from Spokane, where it is cold. 29 degrees this morning. No. Yeah. With sun. Sun's shiny.

Starting point is 02:39:59 Beautiful day. 29 degrees. Well, you should make sure your faucets are dripping. Yes, we're drippers. James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, 5510. Dean Roker, 5510. Sir Zee Anonymous in Liverpool, UK, 5510. Hink Ringelberg in Drontham, Netherlands.

Starting point is 02:40:26 Drontham, very good. Steve Sprague in Kennewick, Washington, 5272. Also, Hink came in 5272. Joe Metzger, 5272 from Vernon, New York. Rita Harrington in Sparks, Nevada, 5272. And she writes, you're the best. She comes in from Sparks with a donation every month at least. Nevada. 5272. And she writes, you're the best. She comes in from Sparks with a donation

Starting point is 02:40:47 every month at least. Jonas Velukas. He's in Vilnius of all places. Lithuania. 5033, which is nice. Let me read this because I know who this is. I don't know Jonas, but it's a first time

Starting point is 02:41:04 donation and switcheroo for birthday boy Dovidas Golbinas from Lithuania. I know him because he's part of the Podcasting 2.0 crowd. He runs rssblue.com. And it's his birthday today. He reaches a solid 30 years. He hit me in the mouth and introduced this amazing

Starting point is 02:41:19 podcast. So it's time to repay. Please de-douche him. You've been de-douched've been deduced is an amazing guy and now we have the 50 donors and they're just right there's not too many donations today i have to say nope i have to complain marshall spoon in evansville indiana nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee. Joan Pulse in Hernando Beach, Florida. Peter Odo in Ridge, New York. Luke Olson in Alexandria, Virginia. Alexander Verdejo in Gig Harbor, Washington. Corey Bennett in Denver, Colorado. Scott Lavender. Sir Scott in Montgomery, Texas, Gadget Freak 10 in Western Springs, Illinois, Jacob Maple, David Schneider in White Hill, Ohio, Sir Jerry Wingenroth in good old Saugus,

Starting point is 02:42:17 California, and last but not least, expecting to be heard from Spud the Mighty in Marietta, Georgia. I want to thank these people for making show 1635 a winner. And again, thank you to everyone under $50. We don't mention those for reasons of anonymity. People love doing the $49.99. And we have many of those sustaining donations, which on days like today are highly appreciated.

Starting point is 02:42:39 It keeps us going. If you'd like to become an executive or associate executive producer or just a regular old producer, a once a month producer for a couple bucks. We if everyone did that, we would be very happy. Go to no agenda donations dot com. That's no agenda donations dot com. Here's the karma for those who request. You've got karma.

Starting point is 02:43:04 I forgot something. What I'm supposed to say is thank you very much to these people and our executive and associate executive producers. Our formula is this. Thought something was wrong. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. I knew I did something wrong. Yeah, coffee.

Starting point is 02:43:17 What? Too much coffee. No, it's not true. No coffee. Stop. Wait. Shut up. There we go.

Starting point is 02:43:28 That feels better. It's a birthday party. I don't know what you're saying. Sir Salah Hauser turned 33 on February 7th. We congratulate him. Also, sir, dude named Ralph on Valentine's Day, the 14th. And Jonas Palakis says happy birthday to Dobidas Gulbina. Turns 30 today. And Dame Denise also celebrates today, except she turns 59.

Starting point is 02:43:52 Happy birthday for everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Happy birthday, yeah. Title changes. Turn and face the slate. Nice changes. Don't want to be a douchebag. Yeah, you know, it's a slow day when we don't have any dames or knights,

Starting point is 02:44:08 but we do have the title upgrade, title change. Sir Dude Name Ralph, who came in as our top producer today, becomes a Viscount, and we appreciate his support of the best podcast in the universe. Thank you very much, Sir Dude Name Ralph, now Viscount.

Starting point is 02:44:22 No agenda, agenda meetups. We had such a long list for all of those meetups that we have a number of reports that came in. The first one is written from Beach Girl. This is the Connecticut meetup report from February. Adam and John in the morning report and a picture uh she sent two pictures actually one from the i think uh december meetup and the most recent one nice looking group uh this was on the 17th we had about 17 attendees on a snowy connecticut day which is great uh great time uh pizza beer and drinks were flowing this is a great group of

Starting point is 02:45:03 people to hang out with on a bi-monthly basis to have open-minded conversations. I don't feel judged when I say, no, I don't listen to Taylor Swift. See, this is what you can do at a meetup. This is good stuff. There's always something new to learn at these meetups. We're a fun group and welcome

Starting point is 02:45:20 NOAA General listeners from surrounding states to attend. Yes, the tri-state area. Thank you for your courage. All the best from Beach Girl. Thank you, Beach Girl. And thank you for organizing that meetup where you always get protection from the NOAA Agenda meetup connection. Hey, this is Kristen. We're at Doc's and there's a pizza with seven slices.

Starting point is 02:45:36 This is the Texas meetup at Doc's Backyard hosted by the Baron of the Arm Racer, Scott. This is Sir Ducifer, ITM. I just came to celebrate my 5th and 6th grade basketball team's victory over the once undefeated team in the league. Let's go! This is Cody, new to the 512. In the morning. Sir Mike of Georgetown, howdy howdy.

Starting point is 02:45:59 Sir Montauk saying hi from the great state of Texas. This is Brendan from local 512 saying in the morning. I have nothing to report for this meetup. I'm hanging out with my friends here. Good afternoon, citizens and slaves. This is Sir Chris, Baron of North Austin. This is Sir Brian with a nod. I'm hanging out with some dogs.

Starting point is 02:46:19 This is Keeper Christine. And this is Baron Scott. Wishing everybody a happy Valentine's Day in the morning. In the morning to you, brother. Central Jersey had their meet-up with Sir R. Daniels. Sir R. Daniels here coming at you from the Garden State Distillery in beautiful downtown Tom's River

Starting point is 02:46:36 in the morning. Dave Alcott here in the morning. Three of us were just reminiscing about the time we met John at Sparks in the City. Looking forward to Adam coming to the East Coast one more time in the morning. In the morning, it's Paul from Westfield. Lost my voice because of the pea flower. Hey, this is Jill.

Starting point is 02:46:53 We're Fist of Nuts and Tom's River in the morning. This is Jay. Thank you for your courage at the 732 meetup. This is Dave. Your energy efficient home is flammable. In the morning uh it's uh producer joe bobby the k is not an op and finally sir nobody uh i got nothing great to say but there you go we appreciate you guys for everything you do thank you john and adam in the morning ah thank you mr you, Mr. Daniels.

Starting point is 02:47:26 Los Angeles now. Flight of the No Agenda 49. Leo Bravo hosting that one. Hey, everybody. It's Leo Bravo at No Agenda meetup number 49. Some visitors have things to say. Hi, this is Angie from the ranch. We're at wonderful El Chobo in downtown L.A.

Starting point is 02:47:43 next to the beautiful skyscrapers that have been tagged. In the morning, Adam and John, it's Stephen Ng from Box Elder, South Dakota. We vote on Herr Schwab, mouth, wind, head on stick. Mouth a gape or the wire is shut. Vote now. Oh, fire is shut. Fire is shut. Fire is shut. Fire is shut. Fire is shut. It's Vena. I have no idea what those people were smoking. It's Los Angeles. They were smoking

Starting point is 02:48:14 something, man. Schwab pot. And finally, we have the meet-up report from Fort Wayne, Indiana. Edwin John, in the morning. This is Fort Wayne reporting in. We had eight in Indiana. Adam and John, in the morning. This is Fort Wayne reporting in. We had eight in attendance.

Starting point is 02:48:27 The Ohio bloke, in the morning. In the morning, folks. In the morning. In the morning, John and Adam. PBR Street Gang looking for Zippy. Dame Trinity having a great time in Fort Wayne. Mike in Fort Wayne Group having a great time. This is Jared.

Starting point is 02:48:40 Hi. Hi. This is Shelly from Fort Wayne. This is Rachel. We didn't find any hairy balls here in Fort Wayne, but we did look. It's your PBR Street Gang calling out Zippy. Okay. Thanks for your meetup report.

Starting point is 02:48:52 Connection is rejected. No attendance at meetups.com. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you want to be. Drink it all, hell or lame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. Zippy got a little enthusiastic there. We needed to mention the meetups for today,

Starting point is 02:49:17 the Indiana Tribal Lingering Love Fest meetup that's underway now at St. Joseph's Brewery and Public House in Indianapolis, Indiana. On Thursday, the Guardians of Reality in Northern Kentucky, 11.30 in the morning at Velocity Bike and Bean in Florence, Kentucky. And finally, also on Thursday, that's the 22nd of February, the No Agenda Geo Jigsaw Singapore Sling Meetup, 6.30. That'll be in Singapore, the Prince of Wales Pub in Singapore, Singapore.

Starting point is 02:49:44 Jesse Coy Nelson, big end-of-show mixer dude, will be in Singapore. The Prince of Wales Pub in Singapore, Singapore. Jesse Coy Nelson, big end of show mixer dude, will be hosting that. I hope someone shows up. He doesn't always have luck. He's done them in. What did he do? He always does the weird fights. Very weird. He's floating around and he finds some weird place and decides to have a meetup.

Starting point is 02:50:01 Yeah, he was in Korea. He did one in Korea. He did. Didn't he do one? He's just looking for an excuse to go to a local bar.. Yeah, he was in Korea. He did one in Korea. He did, didn't he do one in- He's just looking for an excuse to go to a local bar. I think he did one in Lebanon. Yeah, I think so too. He should go back to-

Starting point is 02:50:12 Lebanon. Go back to Lebanon. That's going to- Yeah, go back to Lebanon. That was a fun location. Let's see how it is now. Ugh. Oh, brother.

Starting point is 02:50:21 ISOs, ISOs, ISOs. North Lebanon is best. Okay. Yes.'re currently north lebanon is better yes i have two okay i have spam spam spam not bad not bad and then i have blah blah blah blah blah okay we get it also not bad uh i have this one i don't think i like this one we deserve to know who's been manipulating us no they can't even hear it um no can't hear it amazing potential i kind of like kind of like that one and let's get trashed i think your blah blah blah is the best one yeah i think the blah blah blah, blah is the best one. Yeah, I think the blah, blah, blah is pretty good. Blah, blah, blah. Okay, we get it. Yeah, I like that. Because that's really us, isn't it?

Starting point is 02:51:08 Yeah, pretty much. Two dogs on a hill. And now it's time for... Google U with JCD. An amazing happenstance for those of you listening to this particular episode of the No Agenda Show. Not one, but two good news clips. Now, this is a short one which is i don't like them this short but we found an interesting anomaly and i'm just going to put

Starting point is 02:51:31 it out there for because there's probably a producer or two that works for one of these that stations are owned by gray television okay they own stations all over the country the websites are identical the websites is is like, you see, when I kept looking at these websites, Mimi sent me a couple of these things. And I look at this website, looks like the other website, but this guy's in South Dakota, and this guy's over here. It's templatized.

Starting point is 02:51:55 It's template websites from great televisions, and the videos don't work. It's a piece of shit website. Hey, you're leading into good news. Where's the enthusiasm? Okay, I'm sorry about that. Okay, here we go. Nice. Great news story about a saving the furry little animals that are in the ocean. This seal pup was rescued Saturday at Cape Henlopen State Park right near the point.

Starting point is 02:52:22 at Cape Henlopen State Park, right near the point. The team at the Marine Education Research and Rehabilitation, or MER, says it's been responding to a lot of recent calls for seal pup strandings. She was then transported to the National Aquarium in Baltimore for further rehabilitation and hopefully a release. She's okay. I don't know, man. I mean, there wasn't much of a story there. The seal pup.

Starting point is 02:52:46 Oh, it has to be at least a minute. It didn't tug at my heartstrings. Oh, now you're getting picky. It didn't tug at the heartstrings. It has to be a minute. We can work with that. It didn't tug at my heartstrings. The rescue cat that ran up a tree.

Starting point is 02:53:00 A lost dog is home and heavy. Will they play a good news clip? A good clip we'll see. There it is, everybody. A good news for today. I know I'm getting picky. But, you know, I want people to leave this show thinking, wow, I love those guys. Great good news.

Starting point is 02:53:23 I feel good. I feel positive. You understand that, don't you? Yeah, well, you know, it's not as easy as it looks. Clearly. Especially when gray television can't seem to get a website to work. It works for me, Mimi says. I said, well, I tried it on Chrome.

Starting point is 02:53:43 I tried it without a VPN, with a VPN. It doesn't matter. The videos won't play. You need to switch to Nix, man. It works on all Nix boxes, I've been told. End of show mixes. Professor Jay Jones there in China. We got sound guy Steve and secret agent Paul.

Starting point is 02:54:01 We have some dynamite end of show mixes. And coming up next on KnowItUnderStream.com, Trollroom.io, and if you just keep listening in your modern podcast app, Hawk Story, episode 390, Honey, Honey Hole, the title of it, can't wait. And I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. Dan from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm going to be working on the P and the E cores of an Intel processor.

Starting point is 02:54:30 I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll return on Thursday right here. Until then, adios, mofos, hooey, hooey, and such. Our pick for Super Bowl Sunday was controversial to say the least. So we're celebrating a beheading that keeps us on our toes. And this was a butt. Calipigious butt. Calipigious?

Starting point is 02:54:49 What was wrong with us? It's disgusting. It was triggering to him. She said, no, we're doing the butt. It sounds like a dance. I can't wait to listen to this show. And this was a butt. It's okay for Kim Kardashian to be all over your timeline with her calipigiousness.

Starting point is 02:55:09 You go, girl. She has a big, giant butt. It was triggering to him. She said, no, we're doing the butt. It sounds like a dance. What was wrong with us? It's disgusting. Calipigin is one version of the word, but calipigges is having shapely buttocks.

Starting point is 02:55:29 We're like, you're disgusting. You're horrible, man. You go, girl. She said, no, we're doing the butt. She caused a big, giant butt. It sounds like a dance. I can't wait to listen to this show. And I said, can we do that?

Starting point is 02:55:56 And you went, no, we're doing the butt. It keeps us on our toes. What was wrong with us? It's disgusting. It sounds like a dance. Is having shapely buttocks. You go, girl. Tonight, Vladimir Putin.

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Starting point is 02:56:21 Putin. Vladimir Putin. Ukraine. Putin. President Putin. Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin. Ukraine. Putin. Ukraine. Russia. President Biden. Putin. Vladimir Putin. Putin. Putin. Vladimir Putin. Ukraine. Putin. President Putin. Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin. Ukraine.

Starting point is 02:56:25 Putin. Ukraine. Russia. President Biden. Putin. Vladimir Putin. Ukraine. Vladimir Putin.

Starting point is 02:56:30 Zelensky, the Ukrainian. Putin. Putin. President Biden. Vladimir Putin. Russia. The Ukraine. Putin.

Starting point is 02:56:35 Putin. What was Ukraine? Who was Ukraine? Where was Ukraine? President Putin. President Zelensky. Joe Biden. Vladimir Putin.

Starting point is 02:56:41 Vladimir Putin. President Zelensky. Vladimir Putin. Russia. Vladimir Putin. Ukraine. Vladimir Putin. Bombing Ukraine. Russian President Vladimir Putin. Russia. Ukraine. Putin said. Ukraine says. When it comes to Ukraine. Putin invaded Ukraine. What Putin wants. Ukraine is a feather democracy. Ukraine. Brutal invasion of Ukraine. President Vladimir Putin. The Russian offensive against Ukraine continues. Russian atrocities.

Starting point is 02:57:05 President Zelensky of Ukraine. Ukraine. Ukraine. I really hope that you and President Putin get together and can solve your problem. That would be a tremendous achievement. And I know you're trying to do that. Did you underestimate Vladimir Putin? Putin's intention to press on with his brutal assault on Ukraine.

Starting point is 02:57:19 And Russia. Russian missiles continue to rain down on the port city of Odessa. More scenes of carnage in Ukraine. Ukraine is a centrally located strategic country in Europe. Donald Trump repeatedly asked his Ukrainian counterpart, Vladimir Zelensky, to investigate the former vice president. Russia's president, Vladimir Putin. Do we need to be prepared for the continued destruction of Ukrainian cities?

Starting point is 02:57:44 Putin is the great disruptor. Putin's military is falling apart. There's a price to pay for peace and democracy. Please, again, my request, don't trust Putin. If you're blue and you don't know where there's fake news, why don't you get your Gitmo fix? Putin on the Ritz. Dressed up like a million dollar trooper. Trying not to look like Anderson Cooper.

Starting point is 02:58:16 Super pooper. Come let's mix where John Podesta walks with kids. Oh, I mean pizzas in his mitts. Putin on the Ritz. The best podcast in the universe. Mopo. Dvorak.org

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