No Agenda - 1663 - "Climate Change Special"

Episode Date: May 26, 2024

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Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, May 26th, 2024. This is your award-winning gift on Asian media assassination episode 1663. This is No Agenda. Revisiting lies and broadcasting almost live from the heart of the Texas Hill country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm looking out my window and the ocean hasn't

risen. What am I doing here? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Alright, this is where everyone gets to listen to us as we've sounded for the past five or six years and wait until you hear the rest of the show. It will sound remarkably different.

It's the big climate change special, John. Yeah, you put this together based on using the new Bing it IO search engine, you found a bunch of old stuff and you couldn't get it. Now you're telling us you couldn't get past show 100. You actually filled the whole show up. Yes. Yes. I started at the first I searched for global warming, Bingit.io, which anybody can put together a clip show, by the way, hint, hint, any topic you want, works really well. You can also embed stuff into your favorite social network.

So the first mention of global warming was on November 30th, 2007. Okay. 2007. That was a while ago. That was the first mention when, but I think that's our probably our first clip up when you're talking about how nothing, you know, it was like there was no change. It was supposed to be horrible weather and there was only one hurricane.

And this is consistent throughout the entire first 100 episodes, which takes us up to just about 2009. And that had two hours. I'm like, I gotta stop here. And that was only global warming. It wasn't climate change even. I went ahead to like 2010 to just throw in a couple of things that I have like two clips,

just to throw in some extra stuff. But it's insane how nothing has changed. It's all about getting rid of meat. It's always about the meat. It's the, yeah, it's, and, and all the, you can see all these things have changed over time. Like we went from cow farts to cow burps all of a sudden, that, that changed. Yeah, they couldn't, the cow farts didn't get very far.

Yeah. And I think it's just beautiful that we have this capability now to do this so we can revisit every single mention of global warming just in the first couple of years, which was- We got 10 more shows to do on this. Easily, easily we can do it. All right, we'll kick it off. I'm sorry?

I'm gonna say if you can get this much material, although it's the same material recycled, obviously. Exactly. Not by us, by them. Well, what's interesting is the amount of things that I had completely forgotten about. It's some good revisitation of just the source material. When it all kicked off, it was all very early on in the game

and you'll sit there and go, wow, nothing has really changed. Those guys are great. That's the main point. I want you to think those guys are great. Let's kick it off by going back to the very beginning, episode four. Don't be a denier.

The science is in. Science. You know, in 2005, Don't be a denier, the science is in. Science! You know, in 2005 when everyone was really jacked up about global warming there was these 26 hurricanes hit the US. And so everybody's thinking, you know, the whole climate change and all this other stuff. We're fucked, run for the hills. Run for the hills. So Colorado State, they were one of these, you know, all these great meteorologist arenas or

I don't know what they are, but these schools that have a lot of meteorologists in them, they're big shots. Meteorology schools. Colorado State predicted 17 were going to hit this year. It's going to be horrible, and it's getting worse and worse and worse because of global warming. One. Yeah, I was going to say, I can't think of more than one. One. No, one hit the states. There was a few that hit, you you know Central America, but even then it wasn't that many so it was a dud So so I'm thinking these you know

climatologists and all these Meteorologists these guys don't know anything and we're still waiting for the huge super storm That is supposed to hit the west coast of continental continental Europe and the east coast of the UK. Science! Yeah, well a lot of people think it's just a scam. I mean it's like, I think there is a climate change happening. You can tell it, I mean you've talked to winemakers anywhere in the world, they'll tell you that those things have changed, but it's improved things for the most part.

For wine! That's the good news. Oh yeah, especially the German wines. Man, these things have come on. Really? Oh, German wines, which are always like, you know, they've always made good sweet white wines that reds have never been any good. But now, and even the sweet whites are always kind of, you know, hit and miss.

But in the last, I don't know, almost up to the last 10 years. They're making tremendous red wines, which is really weird. Nobody even believes it until it's proven to them. And they're making this just one great vintage after another of some of these just terrific white wines that are just... And they're well-priced in this kind of an overlooked area because people don't understand them. They keep changing their labeling laws. And I just stunned, stunned. And I think this is the same thing's gonna happen

in Oregon, Washington, especially Oregon pinos, and maybe Burgundy. It looks like Burgundy's having a string of really great, which is an area that make pinot noir, and it's always underripe, and they're crappy for the most part, except's just the really good ones. And they're too expensive. Are these young vintages that you're talking about that are really good or the older vintages?

No, no. It's starting around, in Burgundy it started around about 99, something like that, maybe 95, 96. It's somewhere around the mid-90s. By the beginning of the turn of the century Uh, it was almost like they're hitting every year as a great year 2005 being the most recent super year uh in

Burgundy bordeaux and every place else Um, it's just you know, you just drink these wines when you get a hold of one Even though they're not ready to drink yet And you go, holy crap. I haven't tasted anything like this forever. Well next time I'm in town we'll have to have one. You have not introduced me to a good German wine. Yeah, that's a good idea. Dude, the problem is finding a good German wine in a restaurant in San Francisco is probably

a little difficult. I think there's probably a few places that know what they're doing. So are we going to have time to have dinner next week before I head back? Yeah, Wednesday would be good. Wednesday? Shut up already! It's science! Yeah, there's this wind change from the north and you can even track it on Google Earth. I have a cloud layer which is fantastic to look at. It's coming down directly from the north from Scandinavia.

And it's like a low pressure system. I mean, it dropped about an hour ago. The temperature went from 15 degrees Celsius to about 8, and hail started forming. And so it should be snowing within the next five hours or so No, nice. That's crazy. It's not nice Well, you know, I understand this is largely due to the fact that Al Gore came out of his hole and saw his own shadow I'm telling you ma'am that we've had weather. I mean global warming. How can you buy it? When does it start? You know

Supposed to be happening now. It's only gotten cold April Climate change not really global warming depending on who you talk to so You know there was a report there was a report and I think nature magazine some guy wrote an editorial saying that They did the greedy. They keep redoing the calculations They say there's no way no matter what we do. we can't stop influence the climate so much as they say it's just a cycle yeah it goes up it goes down it's the earth has been well let's not even get into this because I don't want to deal with the email there's something some things we say

man on this show that just generates like so much email yeah yeah hey I'm making fish in my pond why Why wouldn't we make it? But I'm watching, I started off the beginning of the week with watching Bill Maher. And they're going on and then all of the, out of the blue, there's talking about some green thing and all of the blue, out of the blue, Bill Maher goes, oh, and there's one other thing we need to talk about,

which is meat. People eat too much meat and meat uses so much grain and all the grain and it doesn't talk about grass fed which is really the trend in beef you know today because people don't want grain fed beef they want grass fed and most of these that means a cow can graze on a you know otherwise useless field and you know actually it's part of a cycle it's very important for them to exist there. The buffalo used to do that. Like the Netherlands has cattle.

You eat grass, so where's the grain thing coming? But it's part of the propaganda. And so Mara goes off the deep end like some vegetarian nutball about how this is the worst thing in the world. So meanwhile, a couple days later, I'm watching a green report on one of our local stations, Channel 11 in San Francisco Bay area, and'm watching a green report on one of our local stations, Channel 11,

in San Francisco Bay area and they have this green report and they have special logos and some screwball correspondence that look like a bunch of... Green report. Green report. Sorry. So they bring on these kind of, you know, look like vegetarian vegans. And so the woman comes on and she goes, and then the real problem is meat. And she brings up the meat thing again.

And then her thing though wasn't the fact that they eat a bunch of grain, but that this one here, which is always like an eye roller, this because they fart and they give off all this methane. And it's the methane from the cows that are causing it's causing global warming. And it's like, yeah, I've heard that one. And I've heard this every time I hear this, I go, what are you criminally insane to even bring this up?

Throw that person in jail, not Wesley Snipes. Are you nuts? So anyway, and but this is all part of this green week and it's just like, this seems to be some vegetarian undercurrent, you know know with the whole thing and it just makes you sick to watch it because it's like obvious propaganda and the news reporters say nothing about it especially this idiotic methane thing from the cows they say nothing by the way if they stop feeding him grain they probably have less farting just grass-fed but that's beside the point but anyway there's nobody

brings anything and nobody questions any of this. They just parrot whatever shows up from whoever's behind the whole thing, and I'm suspicious of that. And I find the whole thing just incredibly annoying. It is. And I think- Want to make myself clear? Yeah, oh, I love it when you get pissed off.

The science is in! True. Okay, then let me start right off the bat with a trend which is huge protests in Europe over the price of gasoline and in particular diesel. Have you followed this at all? But the diesel thing has fascinated me because even here, it started about a year ago I noticed this. And I used to work as a petroleum chemist, so you have to, you know, have to-

You've got to understand these things. Well, I mean, I kind of get part of it, but there's a baffling aspect to it because this is not a normal situation. But about a year ago, the price of diesel starts sneaking up and it became the same price premium right gasoline ike well i've i've made a study and i know why this in europe i know why it's happening narrago uh... suffer personal you have a regular increase justin the in the raw

materials of the price of a barrel of oil is going up but what all these governments have done and was a big protest in the u k two the price of a barrel of oil is going up but what all these governments have done and there was a big protest in the UK two days ago the French fishermen are protesting and they're cutting off the Atlantic or whatever the hell uh... is that all these governments have put extra tax CO2 emission tax on diesel and uh... and it's an extra tax because and of course i don't think this is true because they say well well, diesel engines, they spew out much more CO2, which of course is related directly back

to this global warming meme that is out there. And I think that, I don't know if that's the same in the States, but in Europe, that's exactly what's happening. That's why that price has been driven up so far. I don't know of any increased tax on diesel fuel in the US. The price has snuck up to the price of premium, and then it started creeping above it, and now it's like 10 or 20 cents higher

than premium gasoline, and it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in so far as the carbon footprint of diesel. Which of course is probably not true. I mean, I think that the diesel engine is a bit clean. Well, I mean, you get a lot of particulate from diesel fuel more than anything, but it tends to be, I don't see that as producing more CO2 to be, I mean, just I don't see it.

I don't know, I'm going to have to do a little reading and see what the heck's going on, because it doesn't make any sense. Well, what is happening is it's making everyone's livelihood kind of hard because you know when you get an increase like that and you're in your basic you know the basics of your business if you're if you're a trucker or if you if you need diesel for any other reason then you know that's a that's a real big problem that's straight to your bottom line well that's passed off to the customers and so it's a real issue I think the only people that benefit from this and I'm starting to notice this now and this is kind of

weird too there might be some connection. I saw an ad the other day yesterday as a matter of fact for the railroads. They've been advertising on the radio for a while but now I'm seeing TV ads bragging about how much you know they can carry like tons of stuff for a nickel, you know, and it's like, I'm saying, why is it? I've never seen, I have never seen in my life that I can think of ads for railway transportation for, you know, for products. It just, I'm watching this going, hmm.

In fact, if anything, it's only been commercials for transport of people. Well, here actually we don't see that even that. I guess there's some Amtrak, occasional Amtrak commercials, but no, this was just transporting cars in particular, but you could tell what they were getting at. They were talking about what does it cost per mile to move a ton, and it's like a lot cheaper than it is with a truck. So I don't know. There's something screwy going on. I'm sure it'll come out eventually.

That's science. And science is one cold-hearted bitch with a 14-inch strap on. This is the great thing about actually modern media and blogging and modern magazines that use comments because you can roll out like the most scurrilous piece of information that you know is true. I mean global warming falls into this category

with Michael Crichton by the way. I saw his last interview with Charlie Rose. I have a copy I should give it to you. He says he knew he was going to get slammed for this but he says he thinks as far as he can it's a crock of crap. But you know you could have evidence, it's a crock of crap. But you know, you could have evidence that it's a crock of crap,

but because people have subscribed, they have subscribed their personality. In other words, it's almost like, you know, I've always felt this way with, you know, this Mac versus PC thing that happened, or it began in 1984 and just really never ended. And you criticize a Macintosh and the person who has subscribed to the Macintosh

by buying one and thinking it's really good, they think you're criticizing them. Yep. They've internalized. People have internalized outside information and this is a form of materialism that is very destructive to one's personality. And this type of materialism can take the form of being materialistic about information.

So you are totally, you've bought in to something, to such an extreme that if anybody says that the information might be invalid, you defend the information even if it is invalid because you are 100% in. This is not healthy. Hail science! So the handyman, he's been with this house for many, many years, which is good. You know, because he's-

It's his house. Exactly, and he did the most recent remodeling with all the new plumbing and everything, so now he knows how everything works, he's got all the bugs, he knows where it is, so that's great. And he says something to me that I was like really and Here it is on page two the inside way at the bottom and find small tiny print of the Financial Times

The United Kingdom has experienced its coldest start to winter in more than 30 years experts said yesterday There you go, my friend. Global warming at its finest. Actually, I'm supposed to be up in Washington today, but I'm not because the coldest front ever to hit the state, predicted to be the coldest days ever in Washington state are today. And there's an ice storm on the East Coast, that's global warming for you.

We're all going to die. And it's snowing in Houston, it was snowing in New Orleans. So of course that's where they spun it into into climate change. But you know, but you know, very important and very relevant to this very moment, Thursday and Friday, in Europe, the ministers all got together and they had their big powwow and you know they've essentially built up the next phase of regulation that we'll have around finance and environment. They are now linked with these carbon credits. Yep, I told you it was coming. I know you and these carbon credits.

Everything is going to be linked to carbon credits. I'm told, yeah, because carbon credits are a guilt-free version of tax. Yeah, exactly. And the crazy thing is, it's just like you're paying taxes and you're supposed to feel good about it. Well, no, the analogy is paying a thin person monies

so you don't have to go on a diet. It's stupid. Because all that anyone ever talks about is, you know, the credits, you buy the credits, you buy the credits, but it doesn't actually reduce anything because somewhere, someone has to produce less carbon emissions to fulfill the credit that you've purchased. Everyone's just buying the credits,

that's what it's all about. And they've got it all tricked out, man. Eastern, yeah. We're not doing this. How come we don't have some sort of a deal? What, the US? No, you and me. A carbon deal?

Well, why aren't we selling credits? I mean, I could plant trees. Well, I'm telling you, we should totally be doing this because these carbon credit exchanges are popping up everywhere. It reminds me a lot in the mid-90s of, at the time we had May East and May West, I built a NOC. I built a NOC in Amsterdam for Christ's sake. It was the thing to do, to have an exchange of bandwidth. This is the next thing. You've got to have an exchange of carbon credits. We can run it on an Excel spreadsheet.

Google spreadsheet, something like that. And what kills me is I was on a website the other day, it says would you like to buy carbon credits to visit this site or something? So while this is taking place, this or it just took place, this twoday meeting, where they decide, okay, they're going to put 200 billion euros into the European economy, even though that's only half of what Germany has to put in and is failing with in its own country by itself. But then they have all these carbon credits, which is essentially about a 30 billion euro

tax which is going to be levied on corporations, new tax. And there are over 600 scientists who are preparing now to sue Al Gore and the IPCC over their bogus climate global warming report, which of course almost gets zero press anywhere. But 600 PhDs dude, I mean this is serious business. Well you know what the reason is, is because I think they have been making this claim and I run into it all the time, when we talk about it on the show, somebody will write, well you don't know, the IPCC said this and that, and why are you even making these assertions yeah and I think a lot of

people a lot of silent are you telling me that people in our audience actually use the word assertions well that those particular people just want to make sure I very rarely use the word. I like it though. We should use that more often. Yes, we should. Anyway, so I think there's a lot of people out there who are probably the climatologists

or the experts of some way, shape, or form, and they have been put into the same sack because of this notion that everybody agrees. Everybody agrees. The discussion is over. We have consensus. Everybody, it's more than consensus. Everybody, nobody disagrees with this.

Not one single person. So you're a PhD who maybe has some thoughts on it and you have some other kinds of data and your friends come up to you at the cocktail party and they go on about putting you, pigeonhol and you have some other kinds of data and your friends come up to the cocktail party and They go on about putting you pigeonholing you with this other worse if you do that as a PhD or a researcher your research funding gets pulled That's why people are so quiet about it because you know they're afraid that their money's gonna go away Well the lawsuits law I think the more people should join the lawsuit. I'm sure there's more than 600 that are irked about this.

In fact, there's about 30,000, I believe, but that's not all PhDs. These are just the PhDs. The Business and Media Institute, I have no idea who they are, but this is a story I just got. Oh, we'll get to know who they are. They're a bunch of right-wing nuts that don't believe in any of this stuff. Okay. Is that true? I don't know.

No, I'm just going to tell you that's what they're pushing. That's what it has to be. What else could it be? Well, they have data. They have data. So I'm just going to presume the data is right for the sake of argument. The Business and Media Institute analyzed 205 network news stories about global warming or climate change between July 1,, 2007 and December 31st, 2007.

They found that only 20% of the stories even mentioned there were any alternative opinions to the so-called consensus on the issues. And this just goes on and on and on about how it's pretty much the media just jumped on and said, okay, we're all gonna die. Hey, roll some of those polar bear footage. Come on. Let's get that out. That's good shit If it bleeds it leads exactly so CBS was the worst

Yeah, see 151 people used by the network to promote global warming hysteria And people used by the network to promote global warming hysteria and 28 people who even questioned it somewhat. That's nuts. Somewhat. I don't know about that. It's nuts. Questioned it somewhat.

Well, you know. It's crazy. It could be bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. And it's amazing what's taking place. Our financial system is going to be based on this lie. Yeah.

And granted, hey, I'm all for saving the earth. I'm all for less pollution. No doubt about it. Yeah. Let's do something about China. They're polluting California from a distance. Yeah. Now, there's plenty we can do and should be doing, but this whole idea of buying credit so that you can continue to pollute that somewhere someone down the

line like my children's children's children will then apparently have to produce less. They're talking about a plant a tree. Yeah, they're talking about a 20% reduction promised and promised by all of the EU in carbon emissions. 20%. No good. That's good, I'll screw him. Tell your fake internet girlfriend you're gonna be AFK for about 10 minutes because it's motherfucking science time.

You blogged the Gideon Rachman story in the Financial Times. He's a columnist and he was he was talking about the you know the possibility of an end in your tongue-in-cheek article about the new world order etc all right that guy be a that guy there's a follow-up to that i was like your pal that don't you know him no no no no no no you can't you've got to read his follow-up to the posted on his blog uh... i'll just i'll just read you the conclusion.

What happened is he says, I couldn't believe the amount of email that he got from out there. He says, hundreds of pieces of email. Here's his conclusions. There's an undeniable amount of anger and hatred out there directed at everything from the United Nations to big business to Barack Obama.

These people can read, but they cannot think, he says. So he's not my buddy, dude. It gets worse. The end of days crowd is very strong. I would say that about a third of the emails I got referred me to the book of Revelation, in which apparently it is all foretold. Three, there's a lot of people who believe not only that global warming is a hoax, but that it is actually a conspiracy.

The fact that the most influential reports on climate change have been produced by an intergovernmental panel, the IPCC, sponsored by the UN, fuels this theory. The idea is that the UN is perpetuating a climate change hoax to provide an excuse to impose a world government on America. I am a part of it apparently," he says. Totally. Totally. Anyway, so he winds up, he does have a funny line at the end here. Something positive has come out of this experience. If the newspaper industry really goes down the pan, I now have a business plan. I will claim to be a former member of the Bilderberg Illuminati Council on Foreign Relations UN Zionist establishment and write a book revealing the inside story of a plot to form a world government. It will

sell millions. In the face of overwhelming odds I'm left with only one option. I'm gonna have to science the shit out of this. Obama picks climate specialist as science advisor. No, that's not right. Oh, don't even get me started on that one. Yeah. I think so. I haven't been able to find the link, but somewhere I heard some or I read someone that

said Al Gore said these colder periods are entirely indicative of global warming. No way. That's fantastic. I know. I get it. Every time we bring this up on the show quite a bit. I love doing it. I always get an email from somebody saying, it's natural to be colder during global warming.

Of course it is. Makes nothing but sense. It's natural for it to be colder during global warming. Yes, I understand. I totally get it. So, that is quite interesting. The guy who sent me the note also says, he says global warming, climate change, they're trying to change the term themselves, is going to result in really weird, erratic weather.

And I'm thinking, because I don't know, I mean, if you start reading, because I did this as a project once, I read all in New York Times newspapers from about 1858 to about 1868. How long did that take you? It took a long time, it took a number of months. I was collecting stories, that may not have been the period,

it might have been from 1868 to 1878, but it was during around the Civil War. And I'm not sure, I think, yeah, I think the Times was in business then, I think it was the time I was reading. I was looking at all these little articles. You read the originals, of course, when they came out in 1886, so.

Of course. But I love, you know, my mom threw them away. So anyway. So I'm reading this and there was, talk about erratic weather. I mean, if you start reading the history of weather in the United States, it's been erratic since day one. You know, storms of frogs, you know, there'd be something happening in North Dakota. And it's just like rained frogs, you know, there'd be something happening north of Cook, and it's just like reined frogs,

you know, all over the place. And, you know, I guess there were frogs, you know, people who had this, you know, you couldn't get outside without stepping on a bunch of frogs that were raining down for some unknown reason. Nobody even knew where the frogs came from. And I mean, I remember that one distinctly going, it was a real head shaker.

And there's all kinds of, you know, weird, like, well, look what happened to Mormon legend about those locusts. Have you ever seen one of those bugs, the big ones, the monster? They're scary. The size of a rat. Yeah, they're scary.

And apparently they came in in some weather situation and they just gobbled up the state of Utah, which is still a desert. And I mean, this is nothing new, this erratic weather we've had. Or the biggest hurricanes we've had in the past. And there's a hurricane that hit Connecticut around the turn of the century or sometime in the,

I think it was like, I can't remember the date, but it was 100 years ago. And so this is bull. I mean, right now it's snowing in Fort Angeles. And Vegas, it's snowing. It's snowing in Vegas. Yeah, it's snowing in Fort Angeles. In Vegas it's snowing. It's snowing in Vegas. Yeah, it's snowing in Vegas. It's just the bad weather is what we have.

Science. So, weather wise, we are freezing our tits off here in the United Kingdom. I'm cooking here in Northern California. God, in the Netherlands, they do this whenever it really gets cold, and I haven't heard this chatter for at least a decade But then they start threatening with cranking up the 11th City natural ice canal race Which is famous famous in the Netherlands

Where you know, it's all undone a natural ice on canals under and around bridges and it's 11 cities It's hundreds of kilometers, you know their toes, their fingers, their lives, but it's a huge, huge cultural deal. And I hope it happens again, but just goes to show that there's some funky going on. Well, I know they do that in Ottawa City. Of course, it's not always freezing. But this is like, this is the legend of Hans Brinker

in the silver skates, right? this is what that is about this is that story so it's reasons that that that that that those uh... all those canals get frozen over well it hasn't it was only it will be able to do is only one freezing over now you are you know it's it's it's the freezing is really started now so now everyone's talking about cranking up the competition uh... but the last time uh... you know it had been a while until, of course, Al Gore proclaimed global warming.

That's when it, you know, luckily we have the 11 City Canal Race coming back. I'm reminded of the, I've always said to people, you know, the day that the term paperless office was coined, if you'd invested in paper mills right then. You'd make a fortune. You'd have made a fortune. Well, you know what my dad always says, the paperless office is as likely as the paperless toilet. Science!

So much mainstream media attention being paid to stuff like this stupid spaghetti monster hitting the wind turbine, and we've got space sounds from outer space and Obama wants to accelerate and put us on the moon. Like, didn't we already see that movie before? But anyway, we've got to get on the moon. I'm thinking that...

Like Obama's a fractal of Kennedy. Right. Well, here's the scenario. The scenario is, of course, there's more and more dissent coming from amongst the slaves saying, wait a minute, global warming, yeah, okay, we've got to protect our Earth, but hold on a second, what are all these taxes for this improvement theory of yours? And what they're going to do next is they're going to have space aliens communicate to us and tell us that we're killing our world and carbon credits are good for us.

Something like that is in the works. I like it. Yeah, I mean, I got to be a hard one to pull off. Are you kidding me? Only a maniac would think that that could work. Okay. I am in outer space and we must tell you earthlings. Science!

Top of the news. Let me get to the story be breaking as we speak Oh, there's those who come in one after another wait a minute wait a minute breaking news. This is no agenda. We have breaking news John C. DeVore I could jib breaking news breaking breaking news in this case is No pun intended because we're talking about cow flatulence again and sheep belching. So there's a breaking aspect to it. Okay. Hit me. Apparently according to all these articles have just showed up. In fact, in today's Wall Street Journal, it turns out that sheep belching may account for 12% of man-made global warming.

Okay, this is in the Wall Street Journal you say? Yeah, today's Wall Street Journal, big story on sheep belching, because the sheep apparently belch methane. And then if I was looking this up a little bit, and according to one story, 12% of Australian greenhouse gases come from livestock flatulence. Ah. Again, another breaking story. Meanwhile, so I'm looking at all these stories,

and if you start scratching the surface of global warming, or as they now call it climate change, because the other word was getting rid of too much. Wasn't working anymore. Wasn't working. But I like it. I still like it. Global warming, it sounds better. So if you scratch the surface of it, you keep coming up with the same thing.

Vegans with an agenda and vegetarians. Somebody came up with this neat idea some years ago that if you get on this global warming kick, then you can attack livestock because at at some point, you know, because of their belching and farting, there's, you could attribute global warming to them. And so I run into the newspaper in Ontario called The Standard, St. Catharines is the town, St. Catharines Standard. And I think the headline kind of like says it all and it's about global warming, but the headline is,

we need to solve the, now quote marks, meat problem. Ah, yes. I have a meat problem that I need solving too. And you can email me. This is unbelievable. But it makes so much sense because because you know, we know that this satellite failed to separate from the payload from the cone. How ironic.

Yeah, this was the big fail. This was the satellite that was actually going to measure the sheep belching and cow flatulence as a part of manmade climate change from space You know It's out of control. I Wonder what was going on during the era where the entire Western Plains were covered with millions and millions and millions of bison Well, they they they you surely you know that bison. They must have already know they don't fart man No, by the way, I have done a quite a bit of sheep shearing in my day when I was Much younger. We lived just south of Amsterdam in a small farming village and it was a lot of fun really, you know the old-fashioned way

with shears and and I have held many a sheep between my legs There's a great drop for you. I've held many a sheep between my legs. There's a great drop for you. I've held many a sheep between my legs, but I've never heard one belch, ever. Have you? Well, no, actually we have a sheep. And does he belch? I've never noticed it.

Maybe when they go, bah, that's actually a belch. Well, I think I can tie a couple things together sounds like a belch the meat problem I I like that that you've latched on to that Because I've it's it hit me earlier this week That the smart grid It's it has it of course it has to do with energy power, but it has to do with a lot more And I started looking into it, into the smart grid. Now a lot of the money for the smart grid

will be dished out by an outfit called, I'm sure you've heard of them, the Western Area Power Administration. Have you heard of them? No, actually I haven't heard of them. Oh, okay. Wow, well the Western Area Power Administration, I'll read, I'm just reading from their website, wapa.gov, part of the government, as a part of the Recovery and

Reinvestment Act of 2009, which of course is the big stimulus package. It grants the Western Area Power Administration the authority to borrow up to $3.25 billion from the U.S. Treasury. It has a whole bunch of, basically they hand out the grants. And so as I'm looking through, you know, just going down as deep as I can, right? Any grants we can get? Well, interesting. So they're handing out a lot of money to GE and IBM.

These are the two corporations who are going to receive most of this smart grid money. And IBM writes about, well, here's a little piece from IBM as it pertains to their grant. The world is becoming instrumented. By 2010 there will be a billion transistors per human, each one costing one ten millionth of a cent. The world is becoming interconnected with a trillion networked things, cars, roadways, pipelines, appliances, pharmaceuticalways, pipelines, appliances, pharmaceuticals, and even livestock.

The amount of information created by those interactions grows exponentially. And as you look through it, a part of this smart grid will be tracking livestock. So of course, how do you track livestock and also livestock feed, I'm sure, is going to be a part of it. So when you track livestock, it's very simple because even my pets are chipped. They all have a little chip inserted and it's an RFID chip and they can track each individual piece of meat, all a part of the meat problem. The science is in!

Did you know that Gordon Brown was in Washington? Did any of that reach you amidst all of this Proposition 8 and Britney Spears news? We all we know is that apparently Gordon Brown was supposed to meet with Obama and Obama says it's snowing so they call it a snow day. Really? Oh man. And they never had the meeting. That's what I mean.

That's the last I heard. Maybe they had the meeting since. Well this, there were a couple of snow days being called. Nancy Pelosi was supposed to speak at the Al Gore. Tony Blair was there at the Global Warming Conference. Of course, she got snowed out. Couldn't land at the Global Warming Conference. Global Warming snowed out. And do you have any idea who this man is? yes we have it appears their agenda is political

well I don't care what their agenda is this is science I won't be scared into not doing my research this man is not your normal radical Prince Charles who just when I thought the guy was gonna be okay from AP Britain's Prince Charles warned on Thursday mankind has 100 months or less to save the planet from a climate-caused disaster.

Didn't they say this like a couple years ago? 100 months or less. Here's what bothers me. We had a story that we have a climate change junkie on the blog. He's always, every time you post any skepticism, he posts something else, since we're all doomed. But the one that gets me is the more recent mention of this guy, climate change expert Nicholas Stern, who's told 2,000 climate scientists meeting in Copenhagen that if they fail to clearly tell humanity what it faces if global temperatures reach the upper range of forecasts Dern who's told 2000 climate scientists meeting in Copenhagen that if they fail to clearly tell humanity what it faces if global temperatures reach the upper range of forecast made by

the IPCC, which is the... Which we have united. Which started all this, yeah. United Nations Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Change and Destroying All Western Economies should be the real title. He says there's been a lot of scientific evidence. He goes on and on and he says, new findings show that these projections

were vastly understated. And everyone, oh, this is worse than we thought. What I'm thinking when I read this stuff is, can't you get this right? I mean, it's like, worse than we thought is better than we thought. It's worse than we thought. Where are the, these numbers are so solid,

why do they keep upgrading and changing them in flux? I mean, in other words, if we're so solidly, you know, we have strong evidence that's irrefutable and everyone agrees. Well, did everyone agree that it just changed? I can't believe that Prince Charles is not on the front page of every single newspaper with this. Listen to what he's saying. The best projections tell us that we have less than 100 months to alter our behavior before we risk catastrophic climate change and the unimaginable horrors that this would bring. What are those horrors you ask John?

Any difficulties which the world faces today will be nothing compared to the full effects which global warming will have on the worldwide economy He said it will result in vast movements of people escaping either flooding or droughts droughts in uncertain production of foods and lack of water and of course increasing social instability and Potential conflict it will affect the well-being of every man, woman and child on our planet. What's happening is the science is screaming at us. And the papers here, again, the George Monbiot from the Guardian.

That guy's a communist. He wrote a book. Someone sent me a link to his book on Amazon. Are you familiar with his book? No. Manifesto for a New World Order. Oh, God. I swear to God, it's a big red book. Manifesto for a New World Order.

Okay. I can't. I read that guy and I just make... He's one of the few writers I don't read him that much But I run into his stuff because you know he's in the Guardian, you know, which is a red paper And so I'm reading this stuff and I look and it's just it's so I can see where some people maybe don't like my Commentary about the Macintosh because you actually start your blood starts to boil about halfway through it mainly begun his cases because I know

How to write propaganda and I can see him using this technique just to befuddle the poor reader. Article from The Telegraph who are onto this. What's worrying the globalists are all the signs that the world's politicians coverage on Copenhagen in December to discuss the successor to the Kyoto Protocol under the guidance of the UN, IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. There'll be so much disagreement that they won't be able to get more drastic measures

to cut carbon emissions. So the name of the game last week, according to this article, as we see from a sample of quotations was to win headlines by claiming everything is far worse than previously supposed. Sea level rises by 2100 could be much greater than the 59 centimeters predicted by the last IPCC report. Global warming could kill off 85% of the Amazon rainforest, much more than previously predicted. The ice caps in Greenland and Antarctica are melting much faster than predicted. The number of people dying from heat could be twice as many as predicted this is out of control

so what they've actually saying here as again which i've brought up in the last show is that they don't know what they're talking about now it is a they they all the predictions are wrong out with the way i want to run again and obviously you know what the hell they're doing read this article from the telegraph is in the show notes uh show notes, it will open up your eyes. There was a whole bunch of dignitaries were in New York at a climate conference, including the current president of the EU, the crazy Czech guy who says global warming is a hoax, and no one reported on it. No one, not a single report. This is why the newspapers are folding. because they don't sell it i mean

why suck they why don't we get you know i mean you get sick everything is like directed as i do somebody orchestrating everything in the newspapers are part of the orchestration so we don't get a broad spectrum of of opinion it's all targeted you know everything is going to be this way it's going to be that was all knee-jerk it's unbelievable to me and these guys are moaning and groaning about losing their jobs yet will have a couple of years and i can't take it anymore talk about something else i'm waiting for a moment it is possibly could happen i'm

waiting for the first bailout of a newspaper you watch that's how crazy this world has become the government will bail out even though that would be unconstitutional it's gonna happen would be unconstitutional I'm sorry yeah it has to be unconstitutional yeah like like the Constitution means anything these days bail out the Catholic Church still no no extra reporting on Baxter International. Oh yeah, there we go.

There's another thing. Where are these stories? I think there was one story an MSNBC had. Somebody sent us a link or you sent it to me. Yeah, so Baxter International, which purposely mixed up flu vaccination with bird flu virus, and they have now admitted it was a live virus

Yeah, so they had mixed up the regular flu vaccine with a live bird flu virus and Coincidentally, this is the only company that has a vaccine for bird flu. No, no, it's not the only company I've got it was one of the companies that has a stockpile of bird flu and deals deals in place billions of dollars of deals first you've got to infect the public yeah otherwise you can't sell it because bird flu doesn't seem to be catching on no it's the meme is not traveling phase fast enough yet powered by science we didn't talk about this on the last show although it was okurant at the moment lawmakers started Earlier this week that would be you know, like people in Congress and people who you supposedly elected and are supposedly doing shit for you

They're starting to have hearings about energy and global warming bill that would of course Revolutionize the way we produce and use energy and how we're taxed for it. And the last time we had this type of bill was acid rain, I guess was the scam at the time. And some actually the smog, we got rid of a lot of the smog, which is why people are buying into this crap. So the laws are coming and they will be taxable and you'll be paying taxes on anything any use of carbon You know what a scam make the pig With genetically modified pigness and then charge people for the pig farts. I mean these guys got it so locked down Whatever happened to acid rain acid rain acid rain

acid rain acid rain it wasn't it didn't you know it was a meme and it went away and I remember that acid rain me because I remember one of these 60 minute shows they're saying all the statues of Italy are all dissolving was Fox News around then I didn't know that like 60 minutes it was like some report you know acid rains dissolving all the statues of Europe and you're just imagining these things dissolving And then they'd find some old statue that was all screwed up looking say look what happened Yeah, well we had the the great ice age that was coming We had all of that oh and

warming. We had all of that. Oh, and a coincidental thing that's, that's interesting to me that the, that it's the climatologist, which is a fairly new discipline. Once they got a hold of this global warming thing, they start getting money. They weren't there. They had just having their grasp. They're just not going to let this baby go. This is like hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars in research, research grants and all kinds of dough. Of course. Yeah We should be on that shit. Absolutely. I know I don't understand why we're not we should be big-time Promoters of this crap just to get as much money as we can We're doing it so wrong. We should be like Jackie Chan, do like Jackie does, man.

Just sell out of the trouble. Yeah, sell out, man. Just sell the heck out. Darn. So, we can't live with ourselves, ladies and gentlemen. That's why we don't do it. There's a great story on AP, of course we'll get it said this guy has a book coming out next week he's the former Food and Drug

Administration chief in command and I'm paraphrasing this article now but here's a direct quote from him I guess in the book the food industry has worked out what works they know what drives people to keep on eating In the next great public health campaign of changing how we view food and the food industry has to be a part of it Basically what he's saying in this book is How the food industry has figured out through neuroscience? That the combination of fat and sugar You know sparks of dopamine in dopamine in your old noggin there. That's your little pleasure spot there, the same that gets hit by alcohol

and other fine, fine products available in the wild. And that essentially what this former FDA chief is saying is, you're hooked on crap and we know it that's science and Science is one cold-hearted bitch with a 14 inch strap on here. We go hydropower disaster for global warming Large dams have dramatic consequences Ecosystems are destroyed and numerous people are made homeless often without adequate resettlement but it is yet little known that large-scale hydroelectricity is a major contributor to global warming. The reservoirs could despite their clean image be even more devastating for our

climate than fossil fuel plants. A few years ago I spent a money and it goes on and on and I'm thinking two things. One, is this guy serious? Or, and by the way let me go down to three graphs, this is mega-hydro has an atrocious record. The World Commission on Dams, WCD, consisting of experts, opposition and industry was installed to produce an independent review of large dams. The WCD estimates in 2000 that 40 to 80 million people have been displaced worldwide. 80 million? Anyway, it seems unlikely.

Just the number doesn't sound right. Maybe in China. Whatever the case is, this could be a, you know, this could be a piece of propaganda put out by the oil industry, obviously, to, you know, keep people on the right track to using fossil fuel. But I don't think so. I think this is actually just some typical reactionary in the sense of let's, you know, we can't do anything. Let's just cover ourselves and put ourselves in a cave somewhere and and write it out yeah if it's not the hydroelectric power it's uh... bovine flatulence

flatulence? oh that's the class. well see the thing to me that this all this whole global warming thing always boils down to is veganism it's at some point you know i don't care what nutball you're watching, if you're watching the Green Planet, they have a whole net channel now on the Dish Network and elsewhere called Green. And it's just a bunch of horrible shows that are self-serving, except Emeril's is actually pretty good because he's still just cooking. You know, Emeril Green, get it? Yeah, yeah.

And then they have the guy who does, I got a disc for you, I'll send you with a couple of these shows on it, just like, Just like all the other ones you sent me, yeah. But at some point it always becomes vegetarianism. I mean, it is always related. There's always a vegetarian angle and it always then it gets kind of to veganism

and let's get rid of the herds of cattle and let's just eat oats. Let's eat dirt. And that's always that element. I've never seen anybody that doesn't have that element in there. Let's eat dirt and chalk. We leave that behind the whole thing. PETA, the vegans and the cracked pots and whole foods, the whole… I've got to tell you, I don't talk bad about PETA at all because those people

frighten me to death those are the ones that want to wind up actually killing you no I'm very afraid of really radical act and look I love animals but there are some very very radical elements out there in the animal activism space, and they kill people. Yeah, because people are meaningless crap. Yeah, it's all about the animals. So along the lines of global warming, you want to hear some earth-shattering news? What? shattering news? Right. Scientists from the United Nations, IPCC, have now determined that the Earth will be

cooling for the next three decades. Now these are the same people that brought you global warming, now known as climate change. Quote, addressing the Washington policy makers in Seattle, Washington Dr. Don Easterbrook said the shifting of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, that's PDO for short, from its warm mode to its cool mode, virtually assures global cooling for the next 25 to 30 years and means the global warming of the past 30 years is over. The announcement by NASA that the PDO, that's the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, has shifted from its warm mode to its cool mode, is right on schedule as predicted by past climate and PDO changes

and is not an oddity superimposed upon in masking the predicted severe warming by the IPCC. This has significant implications for the future and indicates that the IPCC climate models were wrong in their prediction of global temperatures soaring one degree Fahrenheit per decade for the rest of the century. Ba-da-da. Doesn't matter. No one else will hear about it, John. It doesn't matter. Well, I'm blogging it. That's what I mean. No one else will hear about it.

Yeah, with bada-bing. I'll send you the link. You're kidding me. No, of course not. I missed that one. When did that come out? These guys are just unbelievable. being these guys are just unbelievable eleven december seventh actually is when this uh... came out to some of the seven that we have it hasn't been

i didn't i didn't catch it until i was not a small but this is the this whole shifting of the polls and the solar winds and the diminishing of the magnetism of the poles, all of this goes back to 2002. So this is before Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth. NASA and other scientists were saying, oh, this will change the climate. It could make it warmer or cooler. But they were literally saying, it's that that is the cause, not man-made.

It's all over the news now. It's mainstream publications. No one's doing anything with it. Yeah, maybe. But we're still all going to die if we don, stop our cows from farting and stop generating power from the ocean. Stop eating meat. Yeah.

That's basically where it boils down to. Stop eating meat. Because there are animals. I mean, this is the people, of course, who anthropomorphize the, you know, all animals. My wife has it, there is, because they watch too many Disney cartoons with all these talking animals. Usually sounding a lot like Eddie Murphy. In the face of overwhelming odds, I'm left with only one option.

I'm gonna have to science the shit out of this. You have something called Fat People clip? Oh yeah, well this is, well we can save this for another real news segment or we can do this one. Oh, this is what, this is an interesting, this kind of changes the direction of the show a little bit, but this is a news report that came out like a week ago. Now everything has to have a global warming angle.

So now the news, and this is an actual news report that was done on, I think it was, I think it was either, I think it was K I think was either K I think it was either KPI I think it was KPIX and in San Francisco and they're blaming why sorry then I'm sorry I just started the clip prematurely okay play the clip. Kit Doe on why researchers say obesity is bad for the environment. Oh yeah. Obesity and global warming, both heavy topics now linked by a new study from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. It says people who weigh more tend to drive more and eat more. And all that food, it shipped on average 1500 miles from where it's grown to your plate.

Fat people, researchers contend, are killing the planet more so than those who are thin. All right, finally something I can stand behind. Now you're talking. Kill the fat people. This is good. Now we're really in this one. The funny thing about this report, which went a lot longer, by the way, I didn't want to play the whole thing, there's a bunch of puns throughout because the reporter couldn't take it too seriously. And then throughout the the report all they showed was the status people imagine both the TV guys love to show this and you know you never see their

heads it's just either a shot of their big their ass yeah or their big gut that's hanging over bouncing off their knees but what people got to realize that this is exactly where we're headed and yeah we laugh about it now but it's no joking matter because they literally, they're already doing it in the United Kingdom with parents, they can take your kids away from you if they're obese or if they're deemed obese and they're going to do it under all of these new rules and regulations. You know, hey man, you're too fat, you're killing the planet. You're anti-social, that's anti-social behavior.

We gotta cite you for that. And by the way, look at this lovely camp we have all set up. Why don't you come over here and we'll train that all off of you. So what else you got on your list? I'm looking for the audio, or preferably video, so I'm not gonna read this whole thing because I have have the transcript but I'll do it on our next show. Maybe someone can help me find the actual source material of Al Gore lying to Congress. Representative Blackburn was questioning Al Gore at the global warming legislation hearings, which you know,

we talked about this, so now watch out because here it comes, here come all the taxes on everything that emits carbon, including the actual words coming out of your cake hole. And he talks to, I guess it's a he, right? Blackburn? I think so he he talks gore completely into a corner basically making him say or admit that he is profiting from from all of his his green initiatives and a drip is a bit and just reading the transcript is beautiful. But what happens is, so here it is, I'll just read this. So you're a partner of a venture capital firm.

They've invested a billion dollars in 40 companies that are going to benefit from cap and trade legislation. Remember that. So is the legislation that we're discussing here today, is that something you are personally going to benefit from? And then, so the transcript goes, Al Gore, sigh. I believe that the transition to a green economy is good for our economy and good for all of us and I've invested in it.

You need to have the lisp in your voice to make that really work and I can just see him sighing just like a 12 year old does. I know, that's exactly why I want to have the real source material. I have invested in it, but every penny that I've put into a non-profit, the Alliance for Climate Protection to spread awareness of why we have to take on this challenge. There you go, Congresswoman. If you believe the reason that I have been working on this issue for 30 years is because of greed, you don't know me and then Blackburn comes back says no, sir. I'm not making accusations

I'm asking questions that have been asked of me and individuals constituents that were seeking a point of clarity So I'm asking and then out and then so here it comes Every penny that I've made has gone to it my nonprofit every penny from the movie the book From any investments from renewable energy. I've been willing to put my money every penny from the movie the book uh... from any investments from renewable energy i've been willing to put my money where my mouth is do you think there's something wrong with the active in business in this country it's a really throws that you know it's been is doing business bad cities is out now right lying

that it's all in a nonprofit because not he's making tons of dough off of this. And he left the White House with $2 million reportedly in his pocket and now he so far has invested $35 million of his own money in for-profit endeavors. And he's sitting there saying to Congress, no, no, no, no, no, this is all non-profit. Unbelievable. sitting there and saying to congress no no no no this is all non-profit unbelievable and well everyone who listens to the show know that we're no fans of al gore

using science news and bbc this week they had a uh... complete documentary on power shift all nine uh... nice now power shift dot org people got their check it out it's a group of green activists and essentially the government has taken over this this particular conference in

a loaded it up with obama people the key noter was the e p a woman uh... paul podesta the one of the staffers of one of the major staffers and you know it's set second in command of one of these other guys was the good look like the organizer from the way they had this thing structured the way they did the The show this documentary Bill Clinton was there. There's everybody was loaded up. There was loaded up with these guys and Here's what I'm so I'm watching this thing thinking well

This is just another and they got all these kids. It's a bunch of young people. And they get them all pumped up with you know this green green green green green stuff and you know global warming. And so then they jump to showing some of the behind the scenes seminars. You know they always have the breakouts. Oh of course. So the breakouts are training the kids on civil disobedience, resisting arrest, how to do sit-ins properly, how to lock arms, how to do passive resistance. Wait a minute, let me get this straight. And I want to be anybody who happens to be one of those people. I'd like to ask you a question. Since when does the government train the youth

to do these sorts of things? The first thing I thought of was either Nazi youth or the young communists. Well, wait a minute. This was American youth or British youth? The first thing I thought of was either Nazi youth or the young communist party. This is training the youth. Well, communist party this is training the youth well when is the government really really was this british user american youth and confuse american you this is all americans in the district did this show is you know is a racial

but the in which this is in the united states this meeting and it was our government training kids to do to how to do sit-ins how to lock arms how to resist arrest but again the loop where it is resisting against our very good job apparently not i would think it's a resisting against big business who doesn't do what they're supposed to do online that's the only thing i said only getting this yeah stunning i was shocked i saw a rama manuel he was interviewed on cnbc and i

didn't see the whole issue just saw a sound bite but one of was literally, you know, we're in a fantastic place right now where there's an opportunity to figure out what the relationship really should be between big business and government. I'm like, oh my God, the guy's just out and out saying it. They want to have control. There's got to be some kind of takeover or some kind of relationship yeah and if they don't have the if you don't knuckle under then they're going to be kids are going to be sent over there to protest sit-in

you know harass you essentially this is harassment i mean they're training the kids to to be harassers to be considered you know just people who are new who haven't signed onto a hundred percent of the green initiative and of course the whole thing boiled down once again because the keynote or and everybody else brought it up cap and trade cap and trade carbon credits carbon credits cap and trade john broder wrote says article seeking to save the planet with a with a thesaurus

and I just read the first couple of paragraphs the problem with global warming some environmentalist believes is with global warming, some environmentalists believe, is, quote, global warming. The term turns people off. Now, we've talked about this, because remember, it went from global warming to climate change. Listen to what's next. The term turns people off, fostering images of shaggy

haired liberals, economic sacrifice, and complex scientific disputes, according to extensive polling and focus group sessions conducted by Eco America a non-profit environmental marketing and messaging firm in Washington this this is how the shits being sold to you oh yeah instead of grim warnings about global warming the firm advises to talk about our deteriorating atmosphere. Drop discussions of carbon dioxide and bring up moving away from the dirty fuels of the past.

Don't confuse people with cap and trade. Use terms like cap and cash back or pollution reduction refund. I got a hard on, John. This is fantastic. Wow, this is good stuff. This is good stuff. Pollution reduction refund. This will happen at the supermarket where you're used to getting cash back. You will be capping, cashing back, and on your receipt you will be congratulated

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Please everybody we hope Thank you all very much Noah Jen the donations calm and we're gonna head back into it and we'll be back at the end Of the show stay tuned here comes more climate change bull crap. So if I look at the grand overview of everything that's going on and all the horse shit that we're following when it comes to climate change, here's kind of what I'm thinking.

Here's the theory that I'm working on. Call it a conspiracy theory if you must. So clearly, clearly, there is knowledge that in the next few years, and probably it will coincide with 2012, go ahead, say it, oh brother. Oh brother! Clearly there is knowledge that there are big changes afoot, and it makes sense. There are changes. The magnetic poles are reversing, we've got all kinds of massive magnetic and solar activity.

The earth is changing, the earth changes all the time. It's evolved throughout its history, only 6,000 years as you know. I believe that there is actual knowledge that lots of crap is going to happen and that there will be weird... I'm not calling for destruction and devastation, we're all going to die, but yeah, we could see flooding in weird places, we could totally see shit coming down, and I think that that's why all these stories are being launched and that's why Al Gore can stay with such certainty that the science is clear and

Well while you're at it play the clip I gave you no, okay almost second This is a hard on Larry King. She's she from the from the view Joy Bay She's the comedian. She's a comedian that that is one of the women on the view. Okay. Well, here we go She's on Larry King and enjoy she's gonna be bitching about. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. She's going to be bitching about Rush Limbaugh. And this pertains to 2012 somehow? Just play it. There you go. There's no problem. I mean, this guy, Rush Limbaugh, I used to work with him years ago and I sort of am friendly with him in a certain weird kind of way. That did pills together. And he constantly is talking about that there is no global warming. Every climatologist in the world

says there's global warming. Every scientist has said there is a problem. We are all on this earth together and this guy goes out and says that there's no global warming. Who is he? What is he talking about? And who are these ditto heads that agree with him, I'd like to know? Aren't they breathing the same air that we are? I don't think he has a degree in meteorology. What is he talking about and who are these ditto heads that agree with him, I'd like to know. Aren't they breathing the same air that we are?

I don't think he has a degree in meteorology. No, I don't think so. What a bonehead. Meteorology. That has nothing to do with climate. So of course that implies that either Al Gore has a degree in meteorology. I think he has a degree in astrology. Or Al Gore has a degree in meteorology or that Joy has a degree in meteorology. But this is the thing that gets me about this stuff, which is every, the word used, every,

not some, or most, or Joy. Every single one. This is what the problem is with this argument and why it sets off a bunch of alarms and red flags with me. When you start saying, because this is like going to Israel and getting an agreement, you know, with anybody, they're just going to be debating forever. And then the scientists don't all agree on anything. Isn't that the definition of science?

Sorry? Isn't that almost the definition of science, that it's not truth? It's debatable. Yeah. So how does every, with no exception, every climatologist and every scientist, this is bull. I mean when you start hearing that you know something's wrong. Dr. Tyson, what do you make of all this? My calculations show that scientifically we're screwed. Geneva says within days they might declare level six for the first time in their history.

For what? For the flu, swine flu. Why don't they just pack it in and say they were wrong? They can't apparently, they just can't admit it. It's like these guys' jobs depend on it. Oh crap, you know, we started this, now just can't admit it. And yes, like these guys jobs depend on it. Oh crap. You know, we started, you started this. Now we have global warming.

So yeah. So it's North America, Australia and Chile. Twenty one thousand nine hundred and forty cases, one hundred and twenty five deaths. Dude, that's less than normal flu. And that's the pandemic. They can't give up because they've got to support all these deals with the pharmaceuticals for all of these stupid inoculations for the vacuoles. I mentioned this last week or last Thursday.

They want to do three shots a year. Jesus, you're kidding me. No, it was like an article three shots a year. They're going to advocate three three flu shots. What do you need three? You only need one during the flu season well, the question is advocate or Mandate mandate that's well question they would need in the u.s

They have a lot of trouble getting a mandated flu shot because there's just not is that's just not gonna happen It's unconstitutional, especially after that that fiasco with the swine flu sometime I think it back in the 70s where they had the oldest wine flu is gonna kill anybody six I think and the shots killed more people than the flu did. Yep, 76, I believe, John. So I'm reading about this guy. Do you know who the guy who, do you know the name of the, I'm asking this question in hopes that you don't,

because I figured, you know, who, I think a lot of us are skeptical about things. Always forget some of the prime movers. You know who's the guy, the father of us are or skeptical about things and always forget some of the prime movers you know who's the guy that the father of global warming uh... i think you sent me this uh... in the show notes go ahead i'll pretend i don't know. Yes, James Hansen is he a nasa guy? was that the story? Yeah, he's the nasa climatologist who made some testimony in nineteen eighty eight

in front of congress claiming that man-made global warming was taking place and we have to do something about it and then go Became his pal and so did okay that part. I didn't know he was actually the guy that that inspired Scam artist gore to come up with his PowerPoint. Is that how it worked pretty much? Yeah. Mm-hmm He's the inspiration artist Gore to come up with this PowerPoint is that how it worked? Pretty much yeah. Mm-hmm. He's the inspiration. So anyway, so I'm just reading through something and then I run into this old posting from January which I don't know did I miss it or was it to get no press?

I didn't even blog it that I know I don't think maybe it maybe it's on the blog I have to go look but how his supervisor, John Theon, sent out this note after, I guess he's retired or he's not the supervisor, he doesn't work at NASA anymore, and he says that Hanson was an embarrassment to NASA, he was never muzzled, and this guy, Theon says that all climate models are useless. And let me just read a couple of things from the note that was sent out.

Retired senior NASA atmospheric scientist John Theon, the former supervisor of James Hansen, NASA's vocal man-made global warming fear soothsayer, has now publicly declared himself a skeptic and declared that Hansen... Here's the reason I've dug this up is because Hansen just was in the news a couple days ago saying, it's worse than I thought. We're doomed. We're all going to die. And he's targeted Cole. So he was arrested with Darryl Hannah up in West Virginia, picketing some Cole company.

Oh, with Darryl Hannah, right? Yeah. And so he was up there getting arrested with Darryl Hannah. And anyway, the guy says, by the way, if you got to get arrested, it might as well be with her. Yeah, get handcuffed to her. And he declared that Hanson embarrassed NASA with his alarming climate claims and said Hanson was never muzzled.

Dion joins the rapidly growing ranks on. But here's the one. The interesting quote is here. First of all, he says he thinks it's, he likes to join the group that's so skeptic, this guy. He says, no, NASA scientist, James Hansen, created a worldwide media frenzy

with his dire climate warning, his calls for trials against those who dissent against man-made global warming. He's one of the guys that thinks anyone who says it, like what I'm saying now, I should be arrested. And his claims that he was allegedly muzzled by the Bush administration despite doing 1,400 on-the-job media interviews. Yes, science! The title of this is, Gag the Internet. Apparently Cass Sunstein, a Harvard law professor who has been appointed

to a post within the Obama administration that will grant him powers, as the article says, that are merely mind-boggling. It explicitly supports using the courts to impose a chilling effect on speech that might hurt someone's feelings. So this is how he's working on stifling free speech on the internet. Yeah, yeah, it's a good effect. It might work. It might. He has a new book which is coming out, advanced copies, of course, were read by the journalist

who wrote this article. This book is called On Rumors, How Falsehoods Spread, Why We Believe Them, What Can Be Done. It's going to review ahead of its September publication date, but considering the prominence with which Sunstein is about to be endowed, and he has been chosen by President Obama to head actually his, he has been chosen by President Obama to head the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. John, finally, the Ministry of Truth, it's here. It's about time. The White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. This has been reported in the Wall Street Journal, but of course it's, you haven't really heard about this because we're more concerned with Michael Jackson's murder

and Let me see if I can find here we go He worries that's Sustine that we're headed for a future in which quote people's beliefs are a product of social networks Working as echo chambers in which false rumors spread like wildfire That future though already here according to Sunstein We hardly need to imagine a world However in which people and institutions are being harmed by the rapid spread of damaging falsehoods via the internet We live in that world what might be done to reduce the harm well

He questions the libel standard Well, he questions the libel standard. Basically it comes down to a notify and take down. That puts you and myself in the driver's seat when it comes to some of those early lawsuits. Yeah, well. I was always somebody saying something nasty about us. Yeah, right. And it hurts my feelings. It hurts my feelings.

My feelings are so freaking hurt, John. What he's going for is a libel, so a system of notify and takedowns. Well, a takedown notice is for untruths on the internet. So if you write an untruth, yeah, notify and takedown. They'll be, what are you going to do? This is going to be the government dole because they're going gonna have to hire millions of people to do this I want a job I want I got to study some law I got to pass the bar I got to get into some kind of law program take down notice for and by the way how does that work with global warming oh well oh geez well of, you know, if you say that global warming

doesn't exist, you'll get a takedown notice. Yeah. You'll get a total takedown notice. We were talking about, what's her name, the weird chick who was testifying. We had a sound clip of her last time. Janine Garofalo? She looks last time. Jeanine Garofalo. She looks a bit like Jeanine Garofalo, but no, that's not the one. The other one.

The Lisa Jackson. Lisa Jackson, yeah. So apparently two years ago, the Supreme Court passed a ruling that said that the EPA, which she now heads, would be allowed to create legislation to stop greenhouse gases. But there were several other memos that basically said there's no science to support that greenhouse gases are creating global warming. There's also a proviso within that scenario you described that she, the head of the EPA or any head of the EPA, not just her, can define, and they talked about this in these hearings,

can define anything as a greenhouse gas if they want to, you know? Yes. Helium could be a greenhouse gas if they want to, you know. Yes. So you could, which means the helium could be a greenhouse gas. Well, I think CO2 pretty much covers most things since that's the shit we're exhaling when we breathe. So I think that it would be a pretty good job.

There's gonna be a tax on that. You're gonna have to hold your breath. It's a law, it's fact, it's science. There's an article that people should try to track down. I'll send you, make sure it'll be in the show notes, which is the Telegraph's article onuly eleventh uh... two thousand i just came out climate change the sun in the oceans do not lie by christopher booker and he goes on and on and on it but uh... with the not what about cross that

this seems to be uh... especially the cap and trade but he makes let me just read this the very funny first uh... paragraph uh... the moves now being made by the world's political establishment to lock us into december's copenhagen tree to halt global warming are as alarming as anything that's happened in our lifetimes and last week in italy the various branches of our emerging world government g eight g twenty agreed in principle that the world must by twenty fifty cut its u two emissions in half britain in the u s already committed to cutting their fossil fuels by more than 80%

short of an unimaginable technological revolution. This could only be achieved by closing down virtually all of our economic activity. No electricity, no transport, no industry. All of this is being egged on by a gigantic publicity machine by the UN, by seried ranks of government funded scientists by cheerleaders joseph l gore last week comparing the fight against global warming to that against hitler's nazis

all those who have no telegraph and by politicians who have no idea what they're setting in train this makes it this even order that the runaway warming predicted by the computer models simply isn't happening despite the way is being pointed out boat only but there's somebody the other day this year or right wing talk radio listeners get this kind of information and they've never goes into the mainstream appeal always baffled

then they cite like to do kuh university uh... student fake uh... rape charges that everybody knew was phony that listens to real news, but the New York Times was still promoting running these kids out of school and it's just typical. This particular stuff right now, I'm hearing a lot about it, they have not been able to confirm any warming whatsoever over the past five or six years and there's no sea level rising. There's nothing going on.

There are 30,000 scientists who are led by the guy who started the Weather Channel who are suing Al Gore and the UN about the so-called science of global warming. You don't even hear about that. No, of course not. Why would you? 30,000 of which 8,000 are PhDs. 30,000. The science.

This is from our buddy, Andrew Orlowski, from the register. This is quite amazing to me. The CRU, the climatic research unit, which of course has provided the global climate data set, which is the most cited surface temperature record kept by the IPCC from the UN. So basically this is the data that the phony baloney scientists, I can't wait for the email, the phony baloney scientists of the United Nations IPCC of which not all were climatologists and of course there's now 8, 9,000 other real climatologists who are against this research.

So this was the research that was used that led to eventually an inconvenient truth and of course all the way down to the cap and trade legislation and has sparked all this global warming unrest. They say they no longer have the raw data. What? Yeah. They don't have the raw data anymore. There was a number of freedom of information requests that were submitted for the raw data. They're the ones

that keep all the historical data of surface temperatures. And here is what they say. We are not in a position to supply data for a particular country not covered by the example agreements referred to earlier as we have never had sufficient resources to keep track of the exact source of each individual monthly value. Apparently they don't have USB drives. Since the 1980s we have merged the data that we have received into existing series or begun new ones so it's impossible to say if all stations with a particular country or if all individual records would be freely available. Data storage availability in the 1980s meant we were not able to keep

the multiple sources for sites, only the station series after adjustment for homogeneity issues. We therefore do not hold the original raw data but only the value added, i.e. homogenized data. Manipulated, why'd they use that word? Yeah. Oh. That just blows me away. That's a good one from Orlowski. That's a fantastic, it's awesome.

Yeah. So the actual- It's weird that you have to read stuff like that in the register. Well, I read the register a lot because it rocks. Because of exactly because of the case but it seems to me you know. Can we donate to the register how they make money. They make plenty of money more money than we do. Oh really?

They should be donating to us. So yeah so the headline is global warming ate my data. We've lost the numbers says CRU as they respond to freedom of information requests. The world's source for global temperature records admits it's lost or destroyed all the original data that would allow third party to- Lost or destroyed? Yeah. Yeah, well that's what he's-

Jobs lost or destroyed. Data lost or destroyed. So this is the actual data that spawned this whole global warming debate. It is no longer available because in the 1980s we didn't have enough money to buy hard drives. That's basically what he's saying. That's basically it. He could have written it on a piece of paper. Yeah.

Print it out. Science is truth. Mara is going to be sarcastic in response to a big debate about global warming, oh global warming. So Mara, so Kathy Griffin comes in asking a semi-serious question and Mara throws a sarcastic remark at her that, she says, I'm gonna give you some of it,

but you'd have to listen to it to appreciate it she's asked what's causing this and then maura sarcastically says well it's the democrats so they could ruin the economy mocking what some right wingers might say she takes his comments seriously it goes as flies over a head she's a comic by the way flies over a head about a mile and and mara tries to recover but the whole thing falls apart in your margo bob bob bob bob and but the whole thing falls apart because everybody gets into the fray is one of the funniest little scenes i saw on the show

people are more skeptical of global warming now than they were ten years ago especially young people this This is really scary. Young people in great numbers think it's a hoax. Then who is behind the hoax? Who is behind the lie? Democrats to make sure our economy fails. Then how do we change it? No, but that's what the Republicans...

Is it corporate mentality? I mean, who is perpetuating this notion that global warming is false? The people. Well, I think... A small number of skeptics who get disproportionate coverage on the media. And some industries that don't want to be regular. And you know she tries to get it but it's the Republican, they all step all over him and the joke is lost. Yeah the joke is lost. I think it was that same show that he said, you know, California is in flames, you know, because of global warming. And I'm like, you know nothing about climate, jackass.

It is actually because of a cooler climate that has made California extremely dry. It is exactly the opposite. And that to me, that's like huge disinformation right there. Anyway, we will continue to watch the show because it irritates us and that is a form of entertainment. I don't give a damn about the science! NASA is shooting off rockets to create artificial clouds in the outermost layers of the Earth's atmosphere. It's called the CARE project, charged aerosol release experiment, and they are literally creating a cloud of artificial dust over the earth.

Why would they want to do this? This is what happens when a volcano goes off and kills everybody in the world. And it's aluminum oxide dust particles that they'll be spreading and And I know of course this is you know, this is like well, maybe we can stop global warming these no No, this can't be about that. Okay. I'll think so all the all the links Okay, let me tell you this I was at an event and there was a guy from NASA even though nobody from NASA seems to know who he was and there was a guy from NASA, even though nobody from NASA seems to know who he was, who went off with this half-baked theory about putting up all these crazy satellites that would then open up these huge panels and block the sun. It sounds like Montgomery Burns in a Simpson

episode. That's funny. And he's going to block the sun. And there's a bunch of people, typically in the audience, nodding their heads in agreement a good idea Yeah, good idea. I'm thinking this guy is in criminally insane. He should be taken out now. Well, it gets worse tomorrow Friday NASA will launch a spectacular mission to bomb the moon This is not science fiction. It's about time we get a bomb in the moon so they could bomb the spot where we didn't land. The L-Cross mission will blast off from Cape Canaveral, Florida, carrying a missile

that will blast a hole in the lunar surface at twice the speed of a bullet. And all says is a bullet go. I don't know. That bullet goes about Mach 1.5. I think maybe so. And this is another one of the space scientists want to see if any water ice or vapor is revealed in the clouds of the debris. You know what? It's just not a good idea to be shooting at the moon.

It just doesn't. It just doesn't. You know, you know, the old saying, shoot the moon, shoot for the moon son. Well, they're doing it. But this creating clouds, this is all part of geoengineering and we haven't actually talked about this, but there's a lot of these kooky things like the, you know, expand the panels. There's also, there's been talk of trying to push the earth, you know earth and move our orbit a little bit. This is dangerous and crazy thinking.

This is not a good idea. But spewing aluminum oxide into the atmosphere or even if it's above the atmosphere, it just doesn't seem like a good idea. They'll be tracking the dust cloud for days or even months to study its behavior. Well maybe years of this thing. How's it going to come to that? It's not going to rain. There's no rain that's going to take it out. How's it going to dissipate? Let me see what they say. The US Navy, NASA and the US Defense Department, ooh what are

they doing in this, have made a decision to conduct one or more atmospheric tests in order to create an aluminium oxide dust cloud without the permission and for the most part the knowledge of the citizens of the United States. Eventually, they say, the oxide particles will return to earth polluting the air, water and soil. But they don't say that. How are they going to return to earth? I don't know.

Well, let's see how high up it's going. We've got to find out. Well, if it's kind of like in that layer where the Concord used to fly, I guess eventually it will come down to earth. I don't like it. No, I don't like this sort of experimentation with the... I think the United Nations are correct. Where are they in these pictures?

Oh, well, they should. This is an international situation. In other words, people in France, oh, by the way, I want to thank the people from around the world who gave us money, but the people around the world, why should this aluminum cloud be floating over their country? Yeah, thanks mean it's obviously It's really I think there's a treaty violation here. You can't just throw crap in the air like that You know unnaturally and then just because you think it's a fun experiment climate climate climate climate climate climate climate

This is Chris Matthews Ron Reagan and a black guy. Wish I'm't have his name, who has to hold his own against them when he brings up the climate change issue. Here it goes. In the interest of this country, everybody knows the same thing basically. There is a climate change problem, anybody who reads the paper and thinks knows, some were down the line.

Number two, the man has something to do with it. Number two, and number three, we gotta stop depending on Arab oil or we're crazy, okay? So you gotta do something about it, right? And is the president doing something? He is doing something. You say everyone who knows anything says that there's global climate change.

I think there's serious scientific disputes of whether or not that is actually viable. But let me address your question. You really challenge it? Of course I really challenge it. I think you've had, we've seen what happened in East Anglia over in England where they discredited the scientific research of these people. I think that it is a gimmick. There are people that question evolution. That doesn't

mean there isn't evolution. Oh Chris, wait a second. So we're supposed to take scientists who have a fiduciary interest in this that could benefit them. Oh fiduciary interest, nice. Nice nice good word This is actually I've researched this why should we take hook line and sinker with what some of these environmentalists have said about global climate Change why don't we have an honest debate? Why don't we have the conservative voices because the less actually addressing because the weather in Boston right now the last x many years Is the same as it used to be in photo and let's see warmer and warmer. Oh, it Oh, and it was sure warm here on the East Coast. We had blizzards. It was one of the coldest winters on record. Now you're discrediting yourself, Ron. Come on. Weather is not climate. Actually, Ron Reagan, I'm actually making my point. It was one of

the coldest winters we've had. Okay, you're making a point, but it's one that discredits you. No, it doesn't discredit me. Let me know, Ron Reagan, your thoughts. Well, listen, weather is not climate, so let's forget about it. Climate change doesn't even have to be part of the... It isn't. It isn't, Ron. And you know it as well as I do. We're talking about one year.

We're talking about a trend line. Let's forget about climate change for the moment because we don't even have to discuss climate change. We can discuss national security here. Everybody knows, forget about climate change, everybody knows the future is in solar and wind and renewable, sustainable energy sources. That's where we have to be going now. about climate change everything is the future is in solar and wind sustainable energy sources that's where we have to be going now no i take such exception to that that's so is it unbelievable that's bullshit

how about nuclear there's all the actually the the the guy the republican there he's the images that you and then they jump up jump on him for that it's effective is the clip still is there, yeah, I got half a minute left. Play the rest of it. Not to the past. We've got to be going to the 21st century, not the 19th. Now, Ron Reagan, here's where I agree with you.

I agree with all those, but you need to add one more component to that. You need to add nuclear energy. France has over 80% of their domestic supply supplied by nuclear energy. How come the only thing you guys like about the French is nuclear energy? You never say one thing about the French. On any topic, you only eat the French fries you make in front of their... Freedom fries. See?

You guys... Oh my God. Anyway, this is an example of being shouted down for having any kind of thoughtful consideration whatsoever. You just get shouted down by these guys. And that's how this whole thing, the science is in, everybody agrees, anybody, Matthew says anyone who reads a newspaper agrees. In other words, the scientists don't only agree, but anyone who reads a newspaper also

agrees. So everybody agrees except idiots. And the funny thing is they have these memes that they keep putting out. Arab oil, Arab oil, we don't even use, why don't they be honest about it and say it's Alberta oil. Most of the oil from the United States that we use is from Alberta, Canada and Venezuela.

We have very little oil from Saudi Arabia, very little. And then they throw this nasty little comment about, oh, well if you don't believe in global warming, you don't believe in evolution either, which is a ridiculous, specious, jump leap of faith that's a chickenshit thing to do. You know, Matthew should be ashamed of himself for even being on the air with this kind of crap.

John C. Dvorak's Pet Peeve of Day. Indeed. I had like a jaw-dropping moment when I got this particular clip thinking, what? Did anybody go over this script? Was this ad-libbed? I can't believe they even let this, the censors let this bit go through. Play it. Hey, Jenna.

So nice to meet Paul. Interesting guy. How much do you know about him? Well, I lost a toe ring and I'm so, I say a lot. No, I mean, like, what he does. They probably didn't understand it. Unbelievable. I'm listening to that.

What? They're trying, they're doing, you know, they're doing anything they can to get ratings. How bad is it when you have something like that in your script and no one talks about it? Nobody talks about it. Nobody cares. Nobody notices. No.

What? They say, what can we do? I don't know. Let's get more weird. Yeah. That show, of course, is well known for also pushing the agenda. They put global warming stuff in there. They're definitely on board with the propaganda.

Well, it's Hollywood. Yeah. You're in Lalo. I mean, the whole thing's out of Hollywood. Yeah. So we got some climate change clips in it. We've been sitting on it. Wow.

Yeah, do we. Let me play. Let's play my climate change one and two and see what it says. I can't remember. These have been in the run down for weeks on end. Check it out, the ice caps are melting, the polar bears are dying. What is this from, do you know now? I can't remember. A recent study, it's not Bret Michaels by any chance is it?

No. By Yale and George Mason universities, found that 56% of Americans don't trust public figures like Al Gore and Sarah Palin on climate change as much as they do the local weather forecaster. And your seven day forecast will show those showers. And the climate change scientists, they're scientists. They freely admit they haven't always been effective spokespeople for their cause. I plead guilty. I don't think we've done the best job that we could have done. Penn State's Michael Mann is one of the scientists who last year had his emails hacked and quoted worldwide by climate change skeptics as... Yeah. So this was a... Now I'm getting...

I'm remembering. This was either a nightline or something on PBS and they were showing the difference between the climatologists and the weather guys, the meteorologists. And it was a very interesting debate because the meteorologists made a lot more sense than these other guys who are just yeah all in i don't know place climate change to i think there's no serious debate within the scientific community about the reality

human-caused climate change and no debate of course is no debate it's funny cuz they would be on a show where they're debating. Part of your job is to convince all of us, isn't it? I don't see my job as convincing anybody of anything. No, you just have to believe what I say. I went to school, damn it! I see my job as a scientist, of making sure that the public discourse is informed by an

accurate understanding of the science. And that may be one reason the doubting meteorologists have had such a huge opening to convince the public otherwise. But then again, you know, I'm a ditch-digging meteorologist or just a bachelor of science. This is the biggest forecast of them all, and the stakes are much higher

than what they're bringing up. Now, I think, unfortunately, I don't have the notes on this anymore, but I did a lot of research and will probably bring it up in a future show. But in the 70s, and you can look this stuff up, the science was in and all the climatologists then, of course, were predicting global cooling, except for one guy who apparently spent

with global warming the whole time, and there's another guy who's been global cooling to this day the whole time. But for the most part, there's always climatologists that were convinced that we're going to have global cooling. It's going to be the worst thing ever. And there are huge articles in Time Magazine and Newsweek. And it was the same and you'd hear the pitch was exactly the same. Same script, exact same script.

Yep. I don't know well so this is why our Wikipedia page has been ruined by this sure by characters H you are BA so the global warming whether true or not there's a lot of the people who are claiming that this is horrible and happening and it's all because of us are the same people who stand to make a lot of money. And we've talked about this many times on the show. We've shamed Al Gore for his business dealings and I'm happy to see investors business daily, which I would say is a reasonably well regarded. No, absolutely.

In fact, Horowitz is a huge fan of that publication, especially the weekend edition, I guess. Okay. So here it is titled the $10 trillion climate fraud. And it outlines exactly what we have mentioned on this show. In fact, I should probably do a little. So why it starts right off. Well, senators from a froth over Goldman Sachs and derivatives, a climate

trading scheme being run out of the Chicago climate exchange would make Bernie Madoff blush and his trail leads to the white house is exactly what we told you. Wow. I just did something really weird. I tried to use my finger on the screen of my Mac to scroll the page. Whoa, that was strange. Thinking it was an iPad.

Lost in the recent headlines is Al Gore's appearance Monday in Denver at the annual meeting of Council of Foundations, an association of the nation's philanthropic leaders. And he said, Tom's running out. We have to get our act together. Yeah, but you need rolling, getting our act together. And it goes right on to say how- Do you find it by the way, do you find it odd that despite all the climate gate and the scandals

and the arguments that are legitimate by lots of scientists. And I mean mean There's just Amazing number of heavy hitters that have thought this thing is something bogus about it and they wanted to talk about it more They're not convinced That this is just it's as though there that says no nothing happened. Nothing is nothing No, right. We're marching marching marching marching right direction. Oh, yeah, do you find it odd? I mean, it's almost like You know, it's almost like a little kid covering his ears and going I can't Can't hear you, you know kind of thing is it's almost reminds me of that extreme. Yeah, but John when you have Bret Michaels

Possibly not appearing on the final at live episodes of celebrityice. How can you even be bothered with any of this? So this, just going back to this gore thing, and I love that Investors Business Daily, a very serious publication, and yeah, you're right, let's see if anyone jumps on this. Of course they won't because the whole thing is a scam and everyone wants in on it. because the whole thing is a scam and everyone, everybody wants in on it. He set up the Chicago Climate Exchange, which is now a part, which was this guy named Sandor.

I mean, we went through all of this stuff. Who, by the way, is the guy that claims the climate trading of carbon credits could be a $10 trillion market, which is why everyone's shutting up about it. They're like, hey, how can I get in? But what you need to know is that the Chicago Climate Exchange was set up with grant money from the Joyce Foundation and on the board of the Joyce Foundation was Barack Obama.

Oh, really? Yeah. We talked about this on the show. Oh, so he's all in. Yeah, of course he's all in. Yeah, of course he's all in. So everybody's in on the scam and... It's a form of taxation.

Well, the cap and trade will be, but then another thing that wasn't reported... And the cap and trade keeps marching forward. How can that happen? Yeah, well they've changed it to remove pollution. But then on Friday, and I'm sure you didn't see this reported, Atlanta-based CME Group has agreed to pay $604 million for climate exchange PLC. This is a London-based operator of the Chicago Climate Exchange and Chicago Climate Futures Exchange. $604 million dollars. The combination of climate exchange's emission markets and ICE's futures and OTC energy markets is an important and logical strategic combination. So what they've done is they've seen that the heat is on, right? They see, oh my God, we have shit, man.

You know, the heat is on and all this and everyone's looking into Gore's investments and, you know, and yes, there's a number of go ex Goldman guys who were, who were built this trading company. So now they're going to hide it in another group and they've just folded it in and it's going to be harder to track. You know, we won't be able to point to the evil Al because he'll be on the outside of it all. And this gets no play.

Not a small deal, by the way, more than half a billion dollars for something that doesn't even work yet. Yeah, that's pretty amazingly expensive. That's just based upon future possible revenues. And this is the trading desk. This is like a computer. It's like a PC. It's like a big ass computer that they paid a lot of money for.

The global warming is happening and humans are the cause. There's not another side of the issue. And it turns out this guy doesn't believe in peak oil. This Holdren guy. In fact, he's come out as a staunch opponent of peak oil. That's interesting. Well, it is interesting for a number of reasons. So I go back and forth with our friend and two things come up.

Number one, they program all these climate models in Fortran, which is kind of funny. It's like a step below cobalt. And guess what's going to happen next year when their new computers are supposed to come in? Guess what's going to be in there? IBM Watson, of course. See, this is how the propaganda works. First you show that this thing can't be wrong, this thing is awesome, it wins Jeopardy, it's fantastic, you've got to love IBM Watson,

it has a personality, it talks to you, it's fantastic, and now it's going to actually come out and say, I have predicted that climate change is real. You must be careful, humans. We must reduce all greenhouse gas emissions by 83% by 2050. Final Jeopardy! answer is... I guarantee you this is going to happen. Watson will be on television talking to us about climate change because no one believes the politicians but Watson. I mean, how can you argue with a Jeopardy! winner? Let's be honest. So IBM is up for the contracts for the new climate change computers. that's number one,

and I have a tip. I have a tip for everybody. If you are in a conversation, we should put this in one of our emails, John, if you agree with it, if you, and I verified this with our insider, peak oil of course is perpendicular to greenhouse gas emission reductions because, Oil of course is perpendicular to greenhouse gas emission reductions because, and I think that most people who believe in man-made climate change, the climate is changing, no doubt about it, but we've got the sun exploding, all kinds of stuff happening right now. But if you are in a conversation with someone, there's a 95% chance they also believe in peak oil. So this is how you track them you say tell you believe that uh... we were responsible for for all this uh... climate

change yes you believe in peak oil yes well then we don't have to worry do we causes run out of oil and then we'll have no problem that's a good one seriously like you know i like it this is what i can this is why holden is against it because he knows that And they're always really quiet about it You never hear people yelling hooting and hollering about peak oil because it's a logical inconsistency He's not actually exactly so he has to say oh god. What are we gonna do about this one?

Yeah, but isn't it beautiful you just say hey you believe and I guarantee you people who believe in man-made You're right. No, no, you're right. Because it's the same mentality. The mentality is that everything we do is screwed up because we're humans and we're wrecking the place because we're just bad people. We're burning up fossil fuels. So you say, you know what, problem solved. Peak oil? We'll run out of oil.

Hey, we may have to walk. We may not, unless we figure out battery technology. but we won't have to worry about greenhouse gas emissions because we won't have anything to burn now will we and and watch people go uh... it's it freezes your brain if they can't and this whole during he's against it of course he is you know he's a little late to have been to bring up that uh... that's like a good that's funny because it's not going to work because there's no way that you can all of a sudden change gears amongst

you know the crowd the climate change crowd the warmest yeah you can't all of a sudden pull the plug on their their very strong belief about peak oil exactly that's a good but as it comes to that's a ten that's the winner for the show as it comes to man-made a ten. That's the winner for the show. As it comes to man-made global warming, which means because of our cars and all the oil we're burning, evil oil, evil oil, because of that, we're all going to die. So we have to reduce that. Well, with peak oil, great.

Problem solved. Ah, good to hear peak oil again. Oh, peak oil. We forgot all about peak. What happened to peak oil? What a crock. It never peaked after we said, hey, peak oil, you know, the problem solved. No more climate change. After the oil runs out, they all went, oh, oh, oh, those no agenda boys. Those no agenda boys are on to us. We gotta stop. Ah, well, if anyone has any ideas for a global warming special after the climate change or

whatever else you can come up with, bingit.io is a great resource as are all the show notes, noagendashow.net. And I'm looking forward to thanking a whole bunch of people who supported this show on the next one, which will be live on Thursday. Yep. Yep, he says. Alright thanks. Yep. Very much appreciate you helping me the ending here. Coming to you almost live from the heart of the Texas Hill country here in Fredericksburg Texas female region number six. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain

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