No Agenda - 1672 - "Sand Battery"

Episode Date: June 27, 2024

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We're baking! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, June 27, 2024. The secure award-winning Kibble Nation Media Assassination Episode 1672. This is No Agenda. Running on backups and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's another nice day. I'm John C. Dvorak. Show prep is hard, man. It's a grind. It's a grind. I'll tell you this last year, June, where we normally have a kind of a mild summer and then it gets cold. Especially in July. It was miserable last year. It was gloomy every day of June. I bitched and moaned about it. And then it just stayed cold.

It didn't warm up until October. Did you go back? This year's more normal. Did you go back in your diary and look it up? No, I remember it. It was so miserable. Before we start a couple of, And by the way, wait, wait.

I advise to people out there who are younger, especially if you're going to be a writer or anybody, just just being even a normal person, do a diary. Do a diary. Do a diary. Yes, I do a diary. Do you do a diary? No, I wish I did. Well, you can see it's never too late to start.

It's too late to start. Do you know that I still have Diaries.com and that every day someone asks to buy that from me? What? You have Diaries.com? I do. I do. But no one ever hits my number. They're like, you know, and the worst is like... Well, tell us what the number is publicly and maybe somebody will. One Bitcoin.

That's too low. No one's ever even bitten for that. You're now my official broadcaster. You know what art.com sold for? Yeah, but that's art.com. That's not diaries.com. Hello? One million dollars.

Okay. Oh, if you can get a million dollars, I'll give you half. Okay. Oh. All of a sudden, JCD is awake. I have to make an announcement. During this program, our troll fact checkers will be muting our mics if either of us starts to spew disinformation or if we're talking over each other.

Well, I'm telling you, how they could possibly be mute out of the blue, because I think it would sound terrible. That's really funny. That's a good gag, John. I'd like to do that. It's very funny. Two other mentions I have to let you know. Um, we discussed on the previous episode about my hard drive in the B-Link.

Yeah, yes, we did. And I, of course, had ordered a replacement drive. I had the connectors. I'm ready to do the ghosting. And yesterday I didn't do anything on Tuesday. Wednesday morning I walk in and it failed. It's done. It's toast.

What did we talk about last show at the end of the show in the Mayacope or in that Mayacope with the post-mortem? What did we talk about? Well, you said, we talked about it on the show. We talked about this drive and that I had to get a new drive and I didn't even have time to do it. It failed on Wednesday. So I'm running on the backup machine. The whole B-link is toast.

I don't think I can bring that drive back to life. Probably not. And then so I open up this B-Link thinking, oh, this might as well do it. And you open it up, you open the bottom, it's like, oh, there's a nice little slot for a drive. There's no drive in there, no, no, you've got to open it. You've got to break this whole case open.

No, that's for an add-on drive if you wanna put something in. I know, but it's not like the easiest to get this thing out of the B-link. It sucks. I'm sad I ever took your advice to get one. I had a B-link that the same thing happened. I have another one now.

Same thing happened. That's why I warned you about getting it out of there as fast as you could, which you didn't. I did. I was going as fast as I could, which I did. It wasn't fast enough. Getting the drive in and out of that thing is not that hard. It's not like a miserable experience.

Let me ask you a question. Does the B-link that failed on you, does that contain the password to dvorak.org? Is that the drive that failed? Why? Well, because you're unable to change that. Well, I'll lie and notice this was over probably a year and a half, two years ago. So I don't remember. It probably had a password or two on it, but it was beside the point. I'm more cautious now and I back everything up a lot.

I'm very cautious. So I'm now running on the Surface 8, which who knows how those things work. That thing, you can't do anything with that drive. It's baked in there. It's solid. It's baked. Yeah, that's the idea.

That way the whole machine is toast. You can't change anything or fix it. That way the whole machine is toast. You can't change anything or fix it. And then the other... It should be illegal. Just a minor announcement. I had a periodontal procedure on Tuesday, so I'm a bit swollen. It's lucky it only really hurts when I really laugh, but I had a bone graft. So some compassion, please.

I'm supposed to completely eliminate my humorous one-liners and the rest. See, it's already hurting, stop that. Because you can't laugh. I told him- Show some willpower, man. I told him, I said, can't we do this after the show on Thursday? He said, no, no, no, Adam, there's a…

No, no, no, I got a cocktail party. This is a special on Hamas bone this month, so we might as well do it now. Hey-o! There it is. If you hear me go ala walk bar, you'll know why. I don't understand. They probably put an implant. I don't understand. Probably a they probably put an implant. I don't understand.

There probably a microphone is now in your mouth. No, no, the implant is already in there. I needed some bone grafted on because the bone had deteriorated. Yeah, microphone grafted on. Hmm, okay. You can just listen to the podcast. You don't need to be listening to my built- grafted microphone. Well, we get that way. They can, they can pick up what we say after the show, which is not broadcast.

Oh yeah. Well, which is mainly consists of you saying, told you so, told you, you should have fixed that drive, told you so, told you so. Nice try. That's you. Anyway, today, every, everybody in M5M land is all jitty, all jacked up. Oh, it's the big day. It's the big day.

Oh, it's the big day. Today's a big day. It's the big day. It's a big day. It kind of overshadows Assange to be fair about it. I think it's almost timed that way. Why did they release Assange during this like last week? I have a series of Assange clips by the way if you want to talk about him. Let me do a backgrounder and then you play your Assange clips. This is a shorty.

Julian Assange spent the day traveling. Video released by his team documenting his journey today on a private jet from the UK to Bangkok and finally to the northern Mariana Islands where he's just landed and would appear in the U.S. court, the Justice Department's 18 charges against him including conspiring with army intelligence officer Chelsea Manning to hack us secrets reduced to just one plea deal and he will get credit for time served 5 and a half years in a UK jail in 2010 the song is wiki leaks released a trove of material

including details of the killing of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. This the end of a long standoff. His next stop will likely be Australia where his wife and children are waiting for him. I'm always baffled why NBC has Brits doing all the reporting. Why all, do we run out of American reporters? There has to be some study that was done.

Oh yeah, it's more serious if it's from a Brit, right? And in certain instances, they felt obliged to use Brits because it conveys some subtext that we don't understand because we never saw this study. Okay, fair enough. Don't you think? Yeah, possibly. It's a little irksome. It is. I don't like it either. They don't have American journalists over there on the BBC. Not that I can tell. At least I haven't seen any no All right, so you have some massage. I have the PBS breakdown. Okay, and it was It's fairly complete. It went on and on and on it went a lot further it had the They brought in an expert who hated Assange and thought he should be shot

And and some old PBS and some and this guy was like a stooge if there ever was. I didn't clip it. And then they had it as a counterpoint, some kind of a wimpy, uh, freedom of speech guy who's well, you know, I don't think so. So that wasn't worth it, but I think the overall coverage was okay. Let's go with the Assange one. Elitist voices of America. This is NPR or PBS.

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, a brave whistleblower to his allies, a national security threat to his critics, is on the verge of being a free man. Assange is pleading guilty in a court in the Northern Mariana Islands, that's the U.S. Commonwealth, and will be sentenced to time served, allowing him to return to his native Australia. Nick Schifrin is here tracking this story. Nick. Nick.

Jeff, Assange is notorious for some of the largest leaks of classified information in U.S. history, as well as posting emails that played an outsized role in the 2016 election. And tonight, the WikiLeaks founder is ending a decade-long legal saga with the U.S. and heading home. Tonight, Julian Assange's brief and final moments on U.S. soil to appear in perhaps the U.S.'s most remote courthouse on the northern Mariana Islands. His road to freedom began this morning on the way to a British airport. Is that right?

And signing his plea deal documents and landing in Bangkok, his first time outside the United Kingdom in 14 years. Court documents reveal that Assange will plead guilty to a single felony, to receive and obtain documents, writings and notes connected with the national defense, including such materials classified up to the secret level, and willfully communicate documents relating to the national defense. He will spend no time in U.S. jail, and more than 62 months spent in a British prison will count for time served, allowing him to return to his native Australia, where Prime Minister Anthony Albanese today celebrated his release.

Regardless of the views that people have about Mr. Assange's activities, the case has dragged on for too long. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Elmer. Do you have any opinion in general on the fact that he took a plea deal? I think it was a wise thing to do. He wanted to get out of there. I think there was a couple of peculiarities, I thought. Since when does time served in a British prison count as time served in America?

Are we running the whole world like that? So that prison is the same as one of ours? I could make that case. Yeah, I could make the case. Hey, we let them do our news. We might as well control their jails. I guess so. It just seems like on one hand,

because I read the plea agreement, which was quite extensive. And of course, what really isn't discussed, because we were doing the show when this came out, it's only mentioned a little bit, even in that background or clip I played, is really the horrendous video.

I mean, I think that's really what the big issue was. I agree. How nasty that was. In fact, they showed that video on this report. Oh, they did? And they've showed it a lot. Oh, okay. Yeah, they showed that video.

And that video, let's back up. But not with audio, with audio, where they're going like, yeah, that's, that's smoke them, really with the smoke them. Smoke them. Wow. Okay. So they had a video. This is a, everyone should know this, but we're just going to remind everyone

that one of the first things WikiLeaks did that was really pretty substantial was they showed a video that was captured. I don't know where they got it from. One of the choppers, this was in- Apache helicopters. Apache helicopters. Was this in Iraq, Iran? Iraq, Iraq. Okay. It wasn't Iran, obviously. It was either Iraq or Afghanistan. So it was Iraq. And then they had this video showing there's two Reuters reporters and they had targeted one of them.

These are news guys and they gunned them down from the helicopter. Well, not even that. But then when the ambulance showed up, they shot the ambulance. Yeah, they shot up the place. I mean, that's exactly what we accused the terrorists of doing. It was nasty. The chilling, and I use that word advisedly, the chilling aspect was the matter of fact attitude

of the helicopter pilots. Yeah. It's like they didn't give a shit. They were just, okay, let's get them a smoke them. And it was just, it was very matter of fact. Yeah. Now to be fair, it was cold. It was cold blooded. To be fair when you're in a war situation and I've been to Iraq during the war, nobody knows anything and you just get, I mean, I can see how you just get like that.

I'm not going to argue that. But it was to the American public to see this and witness it and listen to these guys. It was terrible. Now he really didn't get arrested until the Hillary and Podesta emails. I think that's when they put their foot down. They did that. And so they found some Swedish girls that accused him of Yeah, there was that whole thing. You don't forget that's that's how they got that's how he first got his tit in a ringer

So to speak and and that was a fake deal That was some phony baloney thing about that because they pulled out of it after they jailed him And then once he went to the Ecuadorian embassy They could they they canceled that part because now he was because he went out on bail and then jumped into the embassy and that meant he was a bail flaunter. And so now they could put him back in jail because he violated his terms at the bail. The whole thing was just a scam,

but this report also includes something that I thought was very, this is classic PBS propaganda in here, you'll hear it, you'll catch it because I kind of ended on one of these notes. Let's play part two. There's nothing to be gained by his continued incarceration and we want him brought home to Australia. The course of the war needs to change. Nearly 15 years ago Assange presented himself as the ultimate truth-teller, revealing what he called the reality of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, including a 2007 U.S. military

attack in Baghdad that killed two Reuters journalists. WikiLeaks dropped 400,000 classified documents that the Pentagon said risked U.S. informants lives. They were leaked by U.S. informants' lives. They were leaked by U.S. Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning, later convicted under the Espionage Act. Political prisoner! In 2010, he was arrested by British authorities after two Swedish women accused him of sexual assault. Charges later dropped.

And after he failed to make bail, he fled into Ecuador's embassy in London, where he remained for seven years. As WikiLeaks stands under threat, so does the freedom of expression. WikiLeaks has released what appears to be transcripts. In 2016, WikiLeaks posted documents that Russian intelligence had hacked from the Hillary Clinton campaign. No, that's not true. Exactly, you caught it. Yeah, that's not true. Exactly.

You caught it. Yeah, that's not how that went down. It was Podesta got fished, if I recall correctly. Well that was one element, but we're talking about the stuff that was believed to be taken by Seth. Oh, Seth Rich. Oh, yes, of course, of course. Hey, uh, of course, of course. Hey, by the way, I think that they should say, just to be correct, because it bugs me,

that he got those documents from Bradley Manning, who later became Chelsea Manning. They should do that. But I'm going back to this other issue, uh, other issue, which is the claims because, because Assange himself said this did not come from the Russians. Yes. I remember he did the interview in the Netherlands about it. He made a big fuss about it. No, that's not the Russians. What would the Russians got to do with it? They didn't care. I think as far as they're concerned,

the Hillary could have gotten in doesn't make any difference to them. But this was the beginning. That was the beginning of the Russia hoax. Uh, momentum began with that, the notion that the Russians stole emails from Hillary. And it's not, and there's no evidence of it. They can't prove that. It's just an assertion that the left wing media was, and, and PBS, but made, and they're sticking to it because here we are what a decade later and they're still saying it. I find that to be abhorrent in that report.

Maybe there's another shoe to drop somewhere. I don't think so. I think the reason they did this during this debate moment is so nobody notices that Assange has even been released. It's really been downplayed. The jet that he got on, from what I gathered, was sent by Kim Dotcom. He sent the private jet. Oh, that could be. I didn't know that.

Yeah. And of course, Kim.com has all the documents which now some of the Hillary emails seem to be missing from the WikiLeaks servers. Oh, they took them down. Yeah. Yeah. I think that was part of the deal.

I think that was the unwritten part of the deal. Yeah, it wasn't in the written deal, so it must have been part of it. Weird, weird. Yeah, all those Hillary emails are gone. I don't know, I just can't help feeling, but the emails are gone. I don't know. I just can't help feeling, but the timing, yeah. I don't know.

I don't know. But what? I don't know. What? I don't know. I just said, I don't know. You can ask me what. I know, but do you have any idea?

What do you think is it? I think it has something. Do you have any thoughts at all on it? Somehow something with Seth Rich. There's some, and remember that there was a server, the DNC server. And a laptop that's never been released that the FBI took. Well, and it went to Ukraine, to CrowdStrike.

There's a lot of messiness in this. A lot of messiness. And Zelensky did just change out his top guy once again. Maybe they put a Sanjian. All right, final report. Quinton said it helped lead to her defeat. He has to answer for what he has done, at least as it's been charged. By 2019, a U.S. grand jury indicted Assange on 18 accounts, including espionage. The embassy evicted him and British authorities arrested him for bail violation. Free to the moon!

A free speech crusader to his allies, a threat to national security to his critics, Assange will now be able to write a new chapter in Australia with his wife Stella. I'll really believe it when I have him in front of me and I can take him and hug him and then it will be real. Now, of course, this doesn't bode well for the media. In essence, this was by pleading guilty, you're saying, well, you can't publish. That's what the whole document is filled with.

This was top secret classified. You can't publish it. Kind of goes back to Chris Cuomo, remember? Remember Cuomo said you can't even watch that? Right. You can't even read the documents. Yeah, I remember that. I wish I could find that.

Yeah, Cuomo was telling, which if you're a spook is true, which makes it even weirder. Yeah. Spooks. If you're working for this, we found this out from spooks. If you're a spook, you can't look at certain things that are actually in the public domain, which has never made any sense to me. And no one's ever explained it fully. Well, because you, you, you have to live by certain rules, I guess. I don't have that clip. I don't have that. I wish I had that.

Rules of what? Yeah. The rules of the, of the deep state, man, the rules of the, you know, the kingdom, can't have you thinking funny things. Let's not do it. I have one. Let me see if there's any different slant from a democracy now. Warning. Amy Goodman clip inbound. Well, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is home in Australia, a free man.

Assange's arrival in Australia ends a more than 12-year legal ordeal after he published classified documents detailing U.S. war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan. Press freedom groups have denounced successive U.S. administrations for targeting Assange, who'd been facing 175 years in U.S. prison if he'd been extradited and convicted. Twelve years ago this month, Assange entered the Ecuadorian embassy where he was given political asylum. He spent seven years there. He spent the last five years locked up in the harsh Belmarsh prison in London. Harsh.

Earlier today, Julian Assange flew from London to the Pacific island of Saipan in Northern Mariana Islands, where he entered a U.S. district court and pled guilty to a single felony count of illegally obtaining and disclosing national security material. The judge, Ramona Manglona, sentenced him to the five years he'd already spent behind bars saying, quote, "'You will be able to walk out of this courtroom a free man. I hope there will be some peace restored,' she said." Yeah. No, no, I don't see the media going,

hey, man, that's off sides. We should be able to publish what we want. There's been some complaining, but it's been very minor. Yeah. And it's by people like Tucker. You saw Tucker in Australia. That was amazing. Yeah, Tucker in Australia, it's a long clip.

It's about, I don't know, 20 minutes of this one segment of the question and answers. And people should look that up. It's on the Twitter for sure. And he just goes after some of these people that are the Australian journalists. And it's almost like he's talking to a robot in one or two cases where he insults them and says they're stupid and they just keep asking

dumber questions. It's the damnedest thing I've ever seen. I was trying to clip it, but I thought it was a little, it was a bit much. I actually pulled a clip, but it's three minutes, you know, it's good. It's not tight enough, but he's at his best. He's laughing it up and he's been sent there for something. There's something up with him. I presume he's there to interview Julian Assange.

That would be- Well, that was what everybody thought. Well, who- And I'm sure he will do that. I'm sure he will, yeah. But what is the point of this thing that we witnessed on Twitter, this meeting of the journalists in Australia

of him giving a keynote or some sort of a speech and then insulting everybody to an extreme- It was a little unclear to me if it was, cause I think there were only a couple of Australian journalists there. Cause there was a lot of hooting and hollering and clapping for him. So those weren't the journalists, I'm sure.

It was unclear exactly what that was. It was unclear and I wish there was more context, but they just posted it. It's kind of nice to see the awakening of Tucker though. And a little on it. I always thought he was playing more dumb when he was on Fox than he was letting on, but he really, he really didn't know how bad it was. And to see this awakening is fun. But you know, what does it do more than,

yeah, yeah, you show up, Tucker. It's not gonna change anything. Bunch of people retweeting. There's nothing going to change. The majority of people still look at the news and go, oh yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep. Yep. That seems about right.

Yep. It does make, the news in general does make for some, some funny. I mean, that's, it helps our show a lot because they are so stupid. What was the, so tonight we have, I got, I got a number of, uh, of like pre, uh, pre-debate clips just because it's so, I mean, it's so show businessy. It's very, yeah. Can I, I'm going to mention something here and I do have one example in me about played after you play your clips.

There has been an inundation of produced clips, pro-Trump clips that are attacking Joe Biden. And I think it's borderline sick the way they go after him. I mean, it is highly entertaining. I mean, I'll get a kick out of it. But it is unbelievably, I would say it has to be categorized as sick. Well, give me an example of what is sick.

I don't know if I even, do I have one? I think I have, I think I found one, but it's all kinds of stuff. They have just some man on the street. There was a whole series of this one guy. Here's this alive in your life. And they go from, they just play a million guy on the street and everybody's pro Trump, black, white, Mexican, Chinese. And it just goes on and it never ends.

I'm gonna see if I have one of these. But these are just viral clips. This is not on the mainstream media. This is just viral. No, no, these are all viral clips, but they've all been very well, they're very well structured. Here's a top anti-Biden clip. This is what the typical. Okay, here we go. Look, I'm not a young guy. That's no secret. But here's the deal. I understand how to get things done for the illegal aliens. I'd encourage the surge of illegals at the U.S. border.

I would in fact make sure that there is, we immediately surge to the border. I got it done. You know how I know the border's wide open? I sent my girl Kamala to take care of it. Do not come. Do not come. I believe it's a job to presidents to fight for you,

the foreign invaders. And that's what I'm doing. I'm a complete dipshit and I approve this message. That was good, but I thought some of the stuff that hit the mainstream was even better. First, let me give you the little horse race. For those of you not in America, this is how it's presented. Biden, Trump, they both want your vote and both want a second term. Now they make their case as they face each other.

Watch the CNN presidential debate simulcast live on ABC, Thursday night at nine Eastern. I mean, come on. It's like UFC. Where's Rogan? Get him in there. Yeah, really? ABC Thursday night at nine Eastern. I mean, come on. It's like UFC. Where's Rogan? Get him in there. Yeah, really? So Martin Short.

Yeah. Who doesn't know Martin Short? He's on ABC and, uh, and he makes a little Biden joke. Now, Kyle, let me ask you this. Did you hear the news about Starbucks? No, no. What's the news? No, this is fascinating.

Starbucks launched a new energy drink today. It's called Iced Energy and it's the same amount of caffeine as six cans of Coke. It's now available at every Starbucks just in time for Joe Biden to shoot it up his ass before the debate on Thursday. Come on. That's a good one. Yeah, I like that one. It's not bad at all.

CNN took a little, I Yeah, I like that one. CNN took a little, I mean, the fact that they're discussing this is what just makes me smile. Do you think some of the rhetoric, Speaker Johnson, I mean, just knowing you and how you conduct yourself, do you think some of the rhetoric is out of line when people from Trump's team are suggesting that Trump himself, that Biden is going to be on cocaine when he's on that debate speech last night? Look, there's a lot of things. This, by the way, just as a, because I heard the speeches that Trump did, knew he was going

to get a shot in the ass, you know, and all this. And he mentions cocaine in there. He says, I wonder what happened to the cocaine in the white. But that's as far as he goes with it. Right. It's the media that's picked up the cocaine meme. Why are they bringing it up? I mean, they love it because they're all coked up, half of them themselves. When he's on that debate stage Thursday night.

Look, there's a lot of things that are said in jest. Of course, no one expects that Joe Biden will be on cocaine, but they do ask questions. Now, of course, no one says he'd be on cocaine like you are. They do ask questions and I think they're objectively, I mean, I think it makes sense why people are asking, will he be on some sort of energy drinks or something? Okay, look, his energy levels, you can see, vary depending on what format he's in and what forum and, you know, we expect that he'll do what he did at the State of the Union. He had a lot of energy that night. So that's the Joe Biden I expect to see.

The question is, can he stay for 90 minutes on that stage and go toe to toe with President Trump, who, as you know, goes to rallies and talks for two hours on end without any break and any notes? So it'll be a very interesting thing to see. Yeah. I mean, the allegations just about drugs have just been frankly ridiculous and obviously are baseless. Baseless, obviously, obviously baseless.

Why obviously, Caitlin? Why baseless? Why obviously baseless? There's got to be something going on. CNN making a big deal about the technology. There's a lot of tech going on here, a lot of technology about these mic mutes. Yeah, this is something we've never ever done before. I want this we got green buttons, we got mic mutes. Let's, let's

do a little let's do a little package on it. If we go behind the podiums, you can see two green lights. When they're on, they signal to the candidate his microphone is on. When the green lights are off, they signal to the candidate his microphone is off. Now I want to give you a sense of what it will look like for viewers at home if a candidate his microphone is off. Now I want to give you a sense of what it will look like for viewers at home if a candidate whose microphone is off interrupts a candidate whose microphone is on. So I'm standing at one podium and I'll ask Phil to come in and take the other podium. And so let's say

I'm answering a question. My light is green and I'm speaking. Phil's microphone is off and his green lights are not illuminated. He's going to interrupt me as I'm speaking and this is what it will sound like. My volume remains constant while Phil's interruption can be difficult to understand. Let's try the opposite. My microphone is now on. Victor's microphone is off and he's going to interrupt me.

My volume remains constant while Victor's interruption can be difficult to understand. The Scenics Production team has shared this demonstration with the campaigns earlier today and we're sharing it with you, our viewers, so everyone fully understands how tomorrow night will work. Now, we should note, by agreeing to participate in this debate, both campaigns and candidates have also agreed to abide by these rules. Yes, the rules, the rules.

Isn't this the- Now, I should have clipped the meme that was created from that particular piece. Oh. I don't know if you saw it. Probably not. But it's on Twitter. It's the exact same thing, but as the guy says,

and now when his mic is off and then you hear, Biden is an idiot, and he goes on and on. You can hear both sides and it's just, it's pretty funny. It's not, you know, but this again, is part of a barrage of negative Biden, uh, memes and uh, virals that are out there and there's not one or two. There's, I'm, there must be hundreds of them and they're,

most of them are quite funny and it's very aggressive. It's much, I'd say if you go back to 2015, 2016 when Trump was running against Hillary and you had those few crazy ads that were running on Facebook, the $100,000 worth of ads supposedly that was going to sway the election somehow. These are much more aggressive. This is pretty funny. The format of the debate, isn't that a throwback to like the 60s when they used to do that? There wasn't even an audience. Yeah, that's the first Kennedy-Nixon debate. There was no audience.

Yeah. And it turned out, did that work well for Kennedy? Yeah, because Nixon was sweating. Oh, that's right. Well, and ultimately that's what this is about. It's all about the one sound bite. I mean, I still remember Reagan. He said, I won't hold the Senator's age against him because he's a much younger man. Yeah, inexperience. Inexperience, that's right. It's all about the one single sound bite.

Well, my favorite one is still, I forgot, I think it was, who was it? It was a vice presidential debate when it gets, is you're no John Kennedy. Right. Well- I knew John Kennedy. You're no John Kennedy. The thing is, of course,

I don't remember who that particular candidate was because it was a VP, but it was a good line. But then Biden actually used that line later and said, oh, now you're Jack Kennedy. He used that in a debate too. Yeah, he tried to plagiarize it, but he couldn't even blow it off. Well, that's all he does. He can't even plagiarize well. So, you know, obviously Biden has one obvious one, convicted felon.

Trump has unconvicted felon. Okay. You know, I think if Trump is just calm and he just- Yeah, this is the- I think he can do that. I think he can do it. Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to say.

I don't think it's going to make a lot of difference when we're at the other Peter's mines are made up. No, this is just UFC. This is just, I mean, there's debate parties. Everyone's getting together. And yeah, I'm a friend of mine. Oh, I'm on a boat, but I got my Starlink so I can watch the debate. It's debate night! Yeah, it's, well, of course you're going to watch it. I'm going to watch it. We're not going to be able to resist. Yeah. I have some more in-depth discussion about this from MSNBC with Andrea Mitchell, who brings in the illustrious Chuck Todd from the Toddcast.

The Biden and the Trump campaigns are looking at tomorrow's debate for a major opportunity to shake up a tight race, possibly even trip up their opponents. NBC's chief political analyst Chuck Todd arguing that both Biden and Trump have more to lose than gain from this first debate. And Chuck joins me now along with USA Today's Washington bureau chief, Susan Page. Hey.

Great to have the two of you. You've seen so many debates, hits and misses. Chuck. Chuck. What have they got to lose? Well, I'll say this we've fallen into this trap before where we get so excited about a first confrontation sometimes it's a first primary debate or first general election

debate and then we always go oh they didn't they didn't really lay a glove on each other they really were sort of feeling each other out and it's like yeah because. Oh that would be horrible if we don't have any anything to play. For suddenly their operatives remind the candidates hey there's a lot of people tuning into you guys for the very first time, you're making a first impression. Please. And while these guys have already made their first impressions, arguably, there's still somewhat of that.

And I do think, six weeks ago, Biden really needed to do something to shake up the race. What's interesting is that in the last six weeks, I could argue both campaigns have gotten steadier. Both campaigns feel better about their current state, and operationally, both campaigns are in a better place than they were six weeks ago. And so when you're entering a debate where you're actually feeling like your path to victory is visible to you, you're going to be a little more risk averse. And I just look, these are, I'm not saying captain chaos won't show up.

But I think if you're coming from the perspective of the operatives I've talked to, I think this could be less firework than people think. Operatives? What are you talking about? Spooks? The operatives are Jake Tapper and Dana Bash. Hello, those are the operatives. Yeah, I think they're part of the whole thing.

Now I should mention that Lisa was put in the newsletter. One of our producers, Drop Coats, said, he said, the reason for the week-long delay is so they can do a new mask and create a new perfect mask. Because they can do the mask. There are masks out there. You can, if you're a- I'm all in on the mask. The masks are real and they work and they're very convincing and they're undetectable. I know from my own family's experience. And you have, so you have a new guy, a new actor in a Biden mask with the polished teeth and sounds like Biden, but he may or may not be Biden. I think voice record would be good to do a voice graph and see what happens.

But who's the crackpot here? And so the idea is, like you said, this is not a technology that's not unknown. And so you have an actor and it takes a week for him to memorize, because they have the questions, they already, CNN has the questions of the game. Oh, obviously. The Biden campaign. So they can say, oh, here's the questions and here's the answers. And they had to practice. It's going to take a week of acting for this phony baloney Biden to actually present well. And the reason they put the, and they have the

two candidates, especially long distance away There's now I'm a little crack potty on this part a long distance away because Trump won't be able to see him close enough to identify a mask if it's even doable or to Jam the or to jam with a pocket jammer. I I Have a I had one of these I don't know where this thing went but I had an all band pocket jammer you could put in your pocket. And I tested it when I was at Mevio

with a couple of guys there said, make a phone call and see if you can get a connection. And they got a connection and I reached over and my breast pocket and just pushed the button and started this thing, knocked the call right off the line instantly. All band pocket jammer, mama jammer. All band pocket jammer.

So you can jam, but it's only good for about four or five feet. So you move by and way over the other side and it might also interfere with the... With the mics. Well, if they're using wireless mics, it will interfere with the mics. If it's not wireless, it shouldn't make a difference, but it would interfere with any

earwig or any little device that was put in Biden's ear. But the bottom line is, I mean, okay, fine. I don't care if it's Biden or someone in a mask who has an earwig. Trump has the natural style. He can, he's still quick on his feet. Just because it won't be Biden going hubble-de-hubble and falling down, doesn't mean that Trump would- But that's what I want to see. Well, exactly.

That's what we really want. We want the real Biden. We want him stumbling and mumbling and saying weird words that nobody can understand and maybe passing out. I mean, that would be the best, but that's not going to happen if they're going to have a guy in a mask. Okay.

It's really, it doesn't matter. The whole thing doesn't matter. The debate doesn't matter. What matters is Jake Tapper's record. Former president Donald Trump in an interview earlier today was given a chance to clear up any confusion about his Hitler echoing comments in which he said this is some classics from 2020 that immigrants from South America, Africa and Asia, not Europe, the South America, Africa and Asia are quote

poisoning the blood of our country. The dehumanizing rhetoric of Adolf Hitler is once again alive and well on a national political stage. If you were to open up a copy of Hitler's Mein Kampf, you would find the Nazi leader describing the mixing of non-Germans with Germans as poisoning. The Jew, Hitler wrote, quote, poisons the blood of others. There's really no other way to say it. Donald Trump's language mirrors this directly. Yes, he's Adolf Hitler. I'm going to go back to Andrea Mitchell with the USA Today

lady who was on with Chuck. And it was high risk, high reward for Joe Biden because the exposure without a teleprompter on a stage for 90 minutes, you know, he could falter and any single moment could go viral, especially the way even innocent moments, you know, not damaging, undamaging moments like in the G7 are faked and edited out of context. You know, they've not only had their first impression made, their second and third and fourth impressions, they're all made. Their images, their views, the views of voters to that each of these candidates is set in political concrete.

So the risks now I think is less to like make an impression you've never made before, more that the other guy or you make some kind of error. The thing gets repeated over and over and over again on cable TV and on social media and that that becomes the image that people remember. Yeah, but that won't change anybody's vote. No one's gonna switch because of this debate. Everyone's dug their heels in. I'm not gonna, this is-

I'm in total agreement. This is fun. This is ratings. Are they having ads? Are they gonna roll ads on this thing? One, that's the same question last show. Yeah, I wanna know it again. One ad.

One ad, who's it gonna be? Who's the one ad gonna be? Have a Coke and a smile? What's it gonna be? No, it'll probably be a drug company, last show. Yeah, I want to know it again. One ad. One ad. Who's it going to be? Who's the one ad going to be? Have a Coke and a smile? What's it going to be? No, it'll probably be a drug company. Come on. Pfizer.

Hey, wait. Let's look at the prop bets. The prop bets might... The prop bets are funny. Yeah. We have, who's first answer during the debate will be longer? Debate winner as per polls. First to mispronounce a politician's name.

Oh, here's a match bet. Democracy versus border. Well, Joe is obviously going to go after democracy. Slogans. Magga Republicans versus Save America. They hate our country. Black Lives Matter. First Wives mentioned. Jill versus Melania. Melania to be mentioned, high favorite there. First candidates suggest the other is on drugs. Okay. That'll be good.

Nothing about the first. I wonder who the, yeah, probably. Probably Pfizer. That would make sense. Now, yeah, there's a couple of interesting things there, which is the fact that they would continue to promote the idea that that video of Biden turning around and heading in the wrong direction is fake. Yeah, that's interesting.

Is really beyond me. I mean, you can even watch, if you watch the extended version, the whole video where Biden at the end slowly puts his sunglasses on, which is in slow motion, it's like, this is not, why do you keep saying this is fake, it's like, this is not, why do you keep saying this is fake

when it's not clearly not fake? I don't get that. Well, we know that, we know that because that's how it needs to be used. So you can just, if you keep repeating that, then you can always say if something that's clearly true, it was fake. Well, this is similar to the other mainstream, I have to call them a meme, if anything, about

the fact that the Russians stole these Hillary Clinton emails. I mean, the media is really beside, it is really, it is complicit and it's corrupt. It's terrible. And people keep watching it. That's the crazy thing. Well, they watch it, but yes, they do. Because they're bored and they watch television. No, they watch clips online. Nobody watches television. The numbers show it. They watch clips, clips of stuff online. This is CNN, Casey Hunt, and she has Trump's press secretary on it. I didn't even know he had a press secretary. Caroline Lievit? Well, she's one of the campaign secretaries. Yes. Casey Hunt is one of the worst presenters on, and it's Casey C. Hunt, by the way. No, oh please, it is not. It is not. It is, you check it out. Hold on a second.

I don't believe that for a second. Does not say that. No, does not say that. She was born, it's Casey S. Hunt. Good try, good try, good try to Vorak. It's, it would take someone five minutes to Google Jake Tapper, Donald Trump to see that Jake Tapper has consistently- Ma'am, we're going to stop this interview if you're going to keep attacking my colleagues. Ma'am, I'm going to stop this interview if you continue to attack my colleagues. I would like to talk about Joe Biden and Donald Trump, who you work for. Yes.

If you are here to speak on his behalf, I am willing to have this conversation. I am stating facts that your colleagues have stated in the past. Now, I'm sorry, guys, we're going to come back out to the panel. Caroline, thank you very much for your time. You are welcome to come back at any point. She is welcome to come back and speak about Donald Trump and Donald Trump will have equal time to Joe Biden when they both join us now at next early later this week in Atlanta for this debate. What a school marm. Ma'am, ma'am, who calls anyone ma'am? Ma'am, ma'am, if you don't say bad things about my colleagues, I'm going to cut you off ma'am. Please.

I'm glad I don't have to get these clips myself. That would be too painful. Here's how I saw that thing a number they kept playing it Fox is using that as like a punching bag. Of course, of course let's let's go and see how France 24 handles the Preparations for the historic US presidential debates question is to avoid scenes like this in 2020. Will you shut up, man? Who is on your list? Both Joe Biden and Donald Trump have agreed to a new set of rules for their 2024 TV rematch. We have ended this segment.

Each candidate's microphone will be muted for the first debate of the campaign, except when it's his turn to speak. Host CNN said that during the 90-minute face-off, there will also be no live audience. Podium positions and the order of closing statements will be determined by a coin flip and candidates will not be allowed notes or props but will be given a pen and a pad of paper. After lobbying from both candidates the TV event is taking place months earlier than usual. But it will also be the first debate either candidate has participated in in

this campaign season as Biden ran largely unopposed and Trump skipped the Republican primary debates. So you have two men that have not debated in four years. So you've got two guys don't like each other, haven't seen each other, pretty rusty, heading into the biggest night of their lives. About six in 10 American adults say they're likely to watch the debate live or in clips or read about the performance of the candidates in the news or social media. The background of all this. Reagan, he gave his farewell speech, I think January 11th, 1989. So just before the 90s hit.

Is that right? Does that sound right, 89? That sounds right, yeah. So I was reading his whole speech. I just pulled a little piece just to show you the contrast from when I was on MTV. Of course, I wasn't paying any attention to any of this. I wasn't paying attention to school. Of course not, because we was on MTV. Of course, I wasn't paying any attention to any of this. I wasn't

paying attention to school councils or school board or council meetings. Who are those losers? Of course, because it's me and Culpa, my generation literally let a lot of this stuff happen because we were too busy. Yeah, I was on MTV. Who cares? I'm having a good time. So here was the part of Reagan. And of course, there was a presidential debate that night. Who would have been debating that night? That would have been Bush and Gore. So he says, I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind, it was a tall, proud city built on rocks, stronger than oceans, wind swept, God blessed,

and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace. A city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. As you know, there's a presidential debate tonight. I'll be praying, but I won't be praying for a political party or a man. I'll be asking God to give his favor to the man who can best lead us in rediscovering who we are as a nation. I'll ask God to give favor

to the man who believes most in we the people, and all I ask for is his grace on he who knows, believes most in the city on the hill." Dude, we are far from that. Oh, times change. Not for the better. Not necessarily. Well, it depends on your sense of humor. Now let's say they, going back to their notion that they're going to have these pads and ink and a pen and a pen and a pad on their desk. Yes, that's all they got. Now if I was coaching and I'm again, thinking in terms of a sense of humor,

I think that that Trump, cause he's going to have his mic cut off, should write in with the pen in big letters, he's bull shit and hold it up. When Biden's talking. I'll give you a dollar if he does that. That would be pretty funny. It would be great if he did that,

because it would be like, it would get nothing but attention and they'd be beside themselves. What are you going to do? Nothing. All right, I want to move on, but I'll keep it related as I move to the Supreme Court. This is very, very interesting what's happening. The Supreme Court is about to end their session.

So they're trying to wrap everything up real quick. They're trying to go on vacation. Basically, yeah, it's called vacation, but they call ending the session. And let me see, where was the SCOTUS clip here? Yes, this one, I think. Tonight, special counsel Jack Smith firing back. This is not Supreme Court, but it's the documents case. It's Donald Trump's claims, FBI agents tampered with boxes allegedly containing classified material discovered when they searched his Mar-a-Lago estate. In a new court filing, prosecutors, with their most detailed description yet of how Trump allegedly personally chose to keep documents containing some of the nation's most highly

guarded secrets among a cluttered collection of keepsakes, including newspapers, thank-you notes, Christmas ornaments, magazines, clothing, and photographs of himself and others. Trump's lawyers claim prosecutors have not preserved the boxes in the exact manner in which they were found, insisting they were manipulated. Prosecutors say that's just not true, saying the haphazard manner in which the boxes were packed and stored by Trump made it inevitable that the consents inside would shift. They blasted Trump's claims as the latest unfounded accusations against law enforcement professionals doing their jobs.

The case now delayed indefinitely as Judge Eileen Cannon holds multiple hearings on a wide array of motions. She has yet to rule on many of them, causing unusual months-long delays. And David, there is news tonight in an unrelated case, the Manhattan hush money trial. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean for that to be in there. So yesterday, yesterday, yeah, I think it was yesterday. Yeah.

All of a sudden, the women of Fredericksburg text message starts blowing up. RIP, First Amendment, we're done. Supreme RIP First Amendment. We're done. Supreme court kills First Amendment. We're done. It's all over. No more free speech. I'm like, what happened? What happened?

I doubt the Supreme court struck it out of the amendments. I mean, what happened? Well, this is what happened. And I have an analysis. Today, the Supreme court ruled against limiting how the White House contacts social media companies. It's a win for the Biden administration that argued it should be able to contact companies

to address misinformation, especially related to public health and election integrity. In a six to three decision, the justices threw out the case on standing, meaning those who brought the case didn't have legal standing. Justice Barrett writing the opinion saying we lack jurisdiction to reach the merits of the dispute. Justice Alito dissenting saying this is one of the most important free speech cases to reach this court in years. This all comes as the Supreme Court hands down its final decisions of the term.

One of the biggest cases of the year, Donald Trump's immunity claim. So I'll stop there. So this is the Missouri versus Biden case. I think I actually changed names later on. This is how both Trump, but also the Biden administration threatened social media companies to de-platform people, to censor COVID misinformation and disinformation.

And I'm really disappointed, especially in Amy Coney Barrett, they kind of punted on this and said, well, you don't have standing in this, which is kind of a cop-out. It's a chicken shit thing to do. It is. So the majority- That's what they did. The majority ruled under the constitution, courts lack jurisdiction to hear cases brought by people who lack standing. Now it was even more interesting because when it comes to injunctive relief, a person cannot establish standing unless he can show a danger of future harm.

This is because an injunction doesn't remedy past harm. And so what they're in effect saying is that you can't prove that you, plaintiff, will be harmed in the future by this, and the social media companies were already moderating content. So the fact that the government came into that didn't mean that it was something new. So it's a very disappointing ruling, I think, because the government does have a scepter. They do have a Section 230. They've got antitrust, all kinds of things they can do to the social media companies. So it will now go back to the district court. Plaintiffs can pursue an injunction. It will now go back to the district court. Plaintiffs can pursue an injunction.

We'll see if anything becomes of that. But it seems like, you know, and by the way, if you think that you have a freedom of speech on social media, please, please. There's no way, you should never expect that there. They also ruled on the Sacklers, which was interesting. Now, the Sacklers, of course, the family who owns Purdue Pharma, and the Supreme Court has now said, you know what? The Sackler family cannot escape liability through Purdue Pharma's

oxy-fueled bankruptcy. So they are back on the hook. That could be fun. That could be fun to watch. Well, not for the Sacklers. Well, no, I'm not related. And finally, Chevron Deference, we were hoping for a decision today. Daily Friday. Yes, we may get it Friday, we don't know, but there are high hopes that Chevron Deferent's decision will be in favor of taking away the power from the agencies. But this would be perfect to have that decision tomorrow when everyone's doing memes and post-debate analysis.

That's probably the time to do it. There's this one pressure group that has been pressuring you. Pressuring you? Well, no, I get, you know, there's just press releases and I called them up and I said, I did this on background. I told them, I will. Okay. On background, what are you, a deep state?

Yeah. And so that's me. And so, but no, I just wanted to hear the pitch. And so what is the pitch about not killing Chevron Deference? And so this girl calls me up and she gives me the pitch. And it goes on forever and it's totally a script. And I shot back at her after she was done talking, which took about 20 minutes, yack, yack, yack. This is recent, this past week? Yesterday. Oh, okay.

And so I said, well, you know, I worked for one of these agencies pre-Shevron Deference and everything you say is not true. This and that, and she didn't, I just had a list of stuff I was writing down. She said, this is what's going to happen. And I said, it didn't happen before. Why would it happen now? And I went on and I really got mad at her. Did you record your side? I didn't record any of it. It's on background. I'm just telling

you the story. But she would not relent. And I told her that all she is, I said, take a look at this. What's been going on since Chevron Deference has been a consolidation of, this is supposed to be a big anti-corporation operation that's pushing this. I said, what's been going on since Chevron Deference? The corporations have been getting bigger and bigger

and they've been consolidating in the media and elsewhere. It's just all, it's gone in the exact opposite direction that you expected to go in. But this is what you're still pushing. So it happens even more. And then she pushes a Jayapal bill that's going out. Did she call you a racist at any point? No. But she says Jayapal's got this assembly bill that which is going to put Chevron deference into law. What?

And I said, all this is doing is playing into the hands of the big corporations. You're just a stooge and you're reading a script that may as well have been written by the big corporations. Who are you kidding? And she was very not happy with me, but at the same time we didn't. She didn't cuss me out or anything. But this is what's going on. Is this how you talk to girls? Is this what you're doing now? This is not the way to go, JCD. I wasn't looking for a date anyway. So, uh, but this, this pressure groups are out there and I, you know,

you can talk to them and see what they have to say and you find out this is terrible what they're up to. They don't know what they're doing. And I said, did you ever work for an enforcement agency or an administrative state agency? Well, I was an intern at the FAA. There we go, FAA. I was an intern at the FCC. And I said, well, did you notice anything

you'll integrate? I said, all these agencies have been captured and she actually admitted that she saw capture going on. There's capture going on here. There's capture everywhere. Yeah. Well, I'll let them- This Chevron deference thing will be interesting to see how it shakes out. I mean, I'll let them slide on the Missouri versus Biden. If they do shever on deference, by the way, a lot of people are very skeptical. They're like, oh, then just the courts will do it and the courts, and then the courts suck too

and everything sucks. No, this is what I got into the argument about with her because she said the same thing. Oh, the courts are going to be dissent. That's bull crap. When I was working and it's almost a decade with the air pollution district, we had to go to court quite more than once.

I went to the court and gave testimony and got pretty good at it about certain things. When somebody really got bent out of shape about the way it was being enforced, they take it to a judge and, OK, well, we can deal with that. We'd always win. I didn't ever saw it was a problem. And it didn't happen that often. It wasn't like daily. So, I mean, this whole thing is bull crap. The Chevron difference has got to go.

Have you seen some of these candidates for judges that have been going through Senate confirmation hearings? It's amazing. That's the way you gotta get Trump back in there because these people they're putting in are terrible. They really are. Like, yeah, you know, the guy, you know, sodomized a four-year-old.

Eh, give him a couple of years. You know, poor guy. Clearly he was poor guy. Poor guy. What? Yeah. How far are we falling? I want to go back to some cheap fakes.

I got some AI stuff, which deserves discussion. I want to make a bit of a turn in our conversation to something that we've been wanting to talk about on the show for a little bit and A little bit. Just to be totally transparent trying to figure out how to do it. And when I say it, it is a lot of memes and what the White House is calling cheap fakes, which means No, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. That's not true. According to Jareen, the media made that up. Not the White House. Get your story straight, Dana.

And what the White House is calling cheap fakes, which means that there are videos that are being put out on social media and then amplified on conservative media that in some cases are just not right. And in other cases are highly misleading. It's not right. Of President Biden. Why would everyone get jitty over reading a tweet from

Barbara Streisand? Oh, I would never pass that opportunity up. Go by where I can read a tweet from Barbara Streisand on the show. So I'm going to do it. She said, We must stay vigilant to the ongoing and pervasive spread of misinformation, maybe now more than usual in the lead up to the ongoing and pervasive spread of misinformation, maybe now more than usual in the lead up to the presidential election.

And her argument was, don't amplify it. It is interesting given the fact that there was a famous case where somebody took a picture of her house in Malibu and she sued to not have that shown. And then it turned out that people started looking at the picture of more than before. So it's the question that I started this conversation with is how much to talk about it versus how much to just kind of ignore it. And we're trying to kind of do both here.

So I thought that was interesting because here we have the media, of course, playing ball for the Democrats and for Biden saying, you know, what I'm hearing is, you know, Jareen, you should kind of calm down a little bit with the cheap fakes because, you know, obviously we all know that that was real. And now you're creating a Streisand effect where people are now going and seeking it out and looking for it and copying it and retweeting. And it's hurting our man. You have a 78 year old and an 82 year old, 81 year old.

And we have lots of examples of both of them. Maybe Trump's aren't played as much, but both of them appearing to use your words, lose a step. That's one thing. The other thing is to take something that actually happened and make it look worse than it is. And listen, the Trump campaign is going to do this and voters are going to see it.

They're gonna imbibe this and not necessarily know that it's fake. It's a real problem. Because you're stupid. You see the Biden team trying to counteract this, but I think the problem is, to the Streisand example, in fact checking it, do you amplify it, right? Right.

This thing is fake. Well, what is this, the thing that you're talking about and then you go see it? So it's a real problem, but I think at the core there is this problem with both of these candidates in terms of age and perceptions. Yeah, okay, fine. So now there's the problem. Before you go on, didn't Streisand, she's talking about misinformation, Streisand is, right? Yes. Didn't she say she was going to leave the country in 2016 if Trump got elected?

That was AI, man. She never said that. That was a cheap fake. She did say it then. She didn't leave the country. So is that misinformation too? She's full of it. I wonder if we, do we have Streisand saying she's going to leave?

It'd be hard to find. It'd be hard to categorize. It'd be hard to categorize. It would be Streisand leaving. Everybody was leaving. Even Miley Cyrus was leaving. They were all leaving. Nobody left. Yeah, exactly. So there's some interesting developments and also we've got a lot of boots on the ground regarding AI. Is Nvidia still holding up the whole stock market? I didn't get a chance to listen to DHUMPLUG. Is it still the biggest company in the world with $3 trillion market?

That was only a momentary blip. Oh no, they slipped. They're number two now. Number two. They're right there. They're right there. Any stock goes up another 10 points, it'll be on top again. On the cusp.

Well, NBC went to talk to tech titan, Sam Altman, who is amazing. This guy can talk for hours and say absolutely nothing. It's, it is, and I think- It's a skill. Well, it's a Silicon Valley skill. Out of the gathering here in Colorado, the Aspen Ideas Festival.

Aww, where's my invite to the Aspen Ideas Festival? Today I sat down with two of the biggest names in the world of... Is Foo Fighters playing? Technology and business. Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, and his ally and friend, Brian Chesky, CEO of Airbnb, to talk about the promise and the risks of artificial intelligence. OpenAI has stunned people with its capabilities, like video creation from simple text prompts.

Where did this guy come from? Have you ever heard this guy on NBC? No. What a voice. Hey, hey, OpenAI has stunned everybody to me. I'm from 1955. I smoke Marlboro's. AI has stunned people with its capabilities.

It may be an AI voice now that I think about it. Video creation from simple text prompts. But all been said, the ambition. It actually sounds like Lester Holt. Then it altered. It's Lester Dolt. Since for his company go much further, comparing it to the Manhattan Project development of the atomic bomb.

Was that helpful for you as you try to make your case? I mean, we try to give a number of historical analogies because we think it is important so we can say there were some things about the Manhattan Project that are like what we're doing now. There's some things about the Apollo program. There were some things about the Manhattan Project that are like what we're doing now. There are some things about the Apollo program. There are some things about that. Oh, okay. Just for context, could you please…

Talk about grandiose. Well, this is the whole pitch. This is the whole idea. You can only trust us. You can't trust anyone else. It's so big, so vast. By the way, it needs government involvement as did the Manhattan Project. Could you just give us a quick background on the Manhattan Project?

The Manhattan Project, which basically created an entire city in the middle of nowhere and down in the desert. This is the Oppenheimer movie. And yeah, the Oppenheimer movie describes it pretty well. Yeah, just go watch that. ...because we think it is important. So we can say there were some things about the Manhattan Project that are like what we're doing now. There's some things about the Apollo program.

There's some things. What? Nothing. There's nothing like the Manhattan Project they're doing now. Nothing. No one's going to die. And in no way was the Manhattan Project worth $3 trillion. Is important.

So we can say there were some things about the Manhattan Project worth $3 trillion. And the shape of this technology and kind of the decisions and the impact, it is fundamentally like a little bit different than anything I think we've ever heard. I think it's different than the Manhattan Project. It's not a race. It's not going to be done in secret. I think nations can collaborate together and there could be a transnational kind of group or body that could really kind of align to make sure we're all on the same page. We think that's super important to get to get some sort of

Was that the Airbnb guy yacking away there? Yes. What the hell's he got to do with anything? He's a tech titan and he's at the festival. Hello. Hey, I've got a gig today with Sam at the tech titan festival. Oh my god. Together and there could be a transnational kind of group or body that could really kind of align to make sure we're all on the same page. We think that's super important to get to global framework and cooperation. By the way, stop, stop, stop again. I hate to do this. I'm almost done, but I'll stop. But this is a classic Silicon Valley phrase, super important.

It's not just important. It's super important. It's super important because that's a high-end Silicon Valley phrase, believe me. No, I know. I've been around it. You heard it. You know what was also super important? Juiced. Remember that? Juiced. Oh yeah, J-O-O-S-Juice. Yeah, Juiced. Juiced. Those guys. Yeah, J-O-O-S-T. Yeah, Jews. Yeah, you know, it's created by the guys who created Skype. Super important. Super important.

We changed Pod Show to Mevio to Video because of Juiced and because Kleiner Perkins forced us to do it. That's the truth. Is that right? Yes. What was that woman's name? So you had Pod Show, which was the original operation. I think that's when I went to work for you. Oh yeah, it was still a Pod Show. Yes.

You were my man. I hired you. You were my hire. Well, I sold you on me. Yeah, you buffaloed me. I did. I took you to lunch at Fringal. And I paid for it.

This is the worst part. And you paid for lunch and I sold you. And I paid for it. And I sold you. And I paid for it. And I paid for it. And I paid for it. And I paid for it.

And I paid for it. And I paid for it. And I paid for it. And I paid B. Reilly I did. I took you to lunch at Fringal. Dr. Justin Marchegiani And I paid for it. This is the worst part. Dr. John B. Reilly And you paid for lunch and I sold you on it. By the way, people always talk about, you know, all these get jobs, do this and that. No, the way you do it is with interpersonal sales. And I had to learn about podcasting because of what was going on at the time, 2006, 2007. So I had to figure it out.

But the way you learn is by doing as opposed to just screwing around. So I sold you on hiring me and it wasn't that hard to do. You were a soft touch. Well, to be fair, you were- A couple of glasses of wine helps. Yeah, you are the pod show DEI hire. So, you know, it all worked out in the end. Nations can collaborate together and there could be a transnational kind of group or body that could really kind of align to make sure we're all on the same page. We think that's super important

to get some sort of global framework and cooperation. I think we're really going the same page. We think that's super important to get some sort of global framework and cooperation. I think we're really going to need that. Bullshit. We need to write the Silicon Valley bullcrap dictionary. It's unbelievable. All these terms. I've forgotten most of them. I think writing a book like that would be super important. It would be Manhattan level, Manhattan project level. Definitely. So, regarding AI, there is an interesting development and first some boots on the ground

because we talked about the power requirements. Of course, this is what Nvidia is actually doing is creating these chips that just suck the power and everything needs. If only we had a hundred billion dollars, then AI would work. If only we had a trillion dollars, it would work. If we only had seven trillion dollars, it would work. First, Scott says, hey, I was listening to episode 1671 and wanted to offer an educated guess as to why the data center legislation was a big deal in Virginia. He says he believes it has to do with Amazon's HQ2 data center that's being built there.

And that's essentially across the street from the Pentagon. So that would make sense because if you read the boots on the ground from our DC night of the high desert, he says, I lived in Printville, Oregon, right next to the Facebook and Apple data centers that they've been building for over a decade. The city of Prinville, Prineville, Prinville, residences saw a 200% increase in their Pacific power utility bill. Once the data center was up and running. How about that? No one talks about that. We've had a bunch of utility bill hikes here in California too. I wonder what's going on.

Then we have Anonymous, an immediate family member is an executive at a large diversified electric and gas utility. I love our producers. Just call your family. You'll get answers for us. Data center power demands has providers in a panic. The enormous power usage cannot be overstated. Even nuclear power generation has difficulty keeping up. I believe Amazon uses about a third of the power

generated by the Sasquahanna nuclear plant in Pennsylvania. It's exponential and not scalable. Of course, none of this stuff is scalable. But here's the cool thing. Ars Technica, I think Ars Technica is pretty good. Do we know the guys at Ars Technica? I don't think they listen to the show or anything, but Ars Technica, screwy information.

You dropped out. Ars Technica what? I said, I'm sorry Ars Technica is a good source of screwy Screwy information that seems to be accurate. So They have this article that came out researchers upend AI status quo by eliminating matrix multiplication in LLMs And I wasn't quite clear what that meant but here's some excerpts research matrix multiplication in LLMs. And I wasn't quite clear what that meant, but here's some excerpts.

Research has claimed to have developed a new way to run AI language models more efficiently by eliminating matrix multiplication from the process. This fundamentally redesigns neural network operations that are currently accelerated by GPU chips and If you read down further it says this ability So the you know actually here mult matrix multiplication Often abbreviated to matmul is at the center of most neural network

computational tasks GPUs are particularly good at executing the math quickly because they can perform large numbers of multiplication operations in parallel. That ability momentarily made Nvidia the most valuable company in the world last week. The company currently holds an estimated 90% market share for the data center GPUs. Now in this new paper titled Scalable Matmul Free Language Modeling, the researchers described creating a custom

2.7 billion parameter model without using MatMul that features a similar performance to conventional large language models and they demonstrate running a 1.3 billion parameter model at 23.8 tokens per second on a GPU that was accelerated by an FPGA chip that uses only 13 watts of power. This could blow up Nvidia. Well, I don't know what to make of that. Yeah, if it's true, I mean, it seems to me that everything could be blown up

if you just have some guys out there that know what they're doing and they can change the math. Well, they essentially do it without math. They're like, yeah, we don't need your math. Without that type of math, which I guess is necessary to create whatever they're doing. I'm unfamiliar with it, but it's obviously at the core of the whole thing. And so somebody just did a workaround and said, hey, you don't need this bull crap. We can use a- You can run it on a B-Link. There's your callback. did a workaround and said, hey, you don't need this bull crap. We can use a- You can run it on a B-link.

There's your callback. Until the hard disk goes out. There's your callback. Until your hard disk crashes. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. I love seeing that stuff. Like, oh, because I just want to see it fall apart. Yeah, I know you do,

but it's going to fall apart whether you- Is that wrong of me to want to see- Want to see it that way or not? Is it wrong of me to want to see that fall apart? Yeah, I know you do, but it's gonna fall apart whether you wanna see it that way or not. Is it wrong of me to wanna see that fall apart? Is that bad? It is, I think you're a hater. That's what it is. I am, well. Is it exhibiting your hatred

of anything that you're not involved in? No, that's just a, I think it's a personality disorder. That has nothing to do with it. I thought AI was dumb from the beginning. My record stands. Yeah, you're definitely consistent. Also new this morning, major record labels are taking a stand against AI and the industry. The Recording Industry Association of America has filed a lawsuit against AI music companies

Suno and Udio alleging copyright infringement. The trade group represents some titans in the industry, Sony, Universal and Warner Records. The suit claims the company's legally copied recordings to train their systems to produce copyrighted music. This comes after more than 200 artists signed a letter in April calling on AI companies to stop using technology that takes away their rights. Udio and Suno have not yet responded to the lawsuit. Ah, this is good.

That Suno stuff is actually not bad. I've heard some songs that came off that. It's like, oh, all right. But the lawsuit. Once in a while it hits it. It hits it. But it's kind of like the hit and miss of a regular singer or songwriter. Exactly.

Exactly. It has to do with promotion, has to do with all kinds of things. It can even, the weather can determine a hit. If people could create hits, they would be doing it already. It used to be this funny show on, it was on PBS or someplace, it was a sit-down with these various producers and directors and when Peter Goober had owned sit down with these various producers and directors. And when Peter Goober had owned Sony, I would not, but he was running Sony's movies division. It was a kind of a scandalous era.

Goober the lawyer? No, Peter Goober, the producer. Oh. And he would, he said that after the first year, they did a bunch of these movies and he says, and the Japanese had took him into the board meeting. Okay, what did you, how'd you accomplish anything? He says, well, we had this movie was a fail and this was a fail.

This movie did well and this movie did well and these other five movies failed. And they said, well, I don't understand what you're doing because why don't you just do more of these, which are the hits. I remember that used to be, I had to think new ideas, the company that I had Why don't you just do more of these, which are the hits. I remember that used to be at Think New Ideas, the company that I had before Mevio, before the dot com crash. And we'd have clients come to us and say, OK, here's what we want. We want a viral video.

I remember this era, by the way. Can you make that go viral? No, no, that's not really how it works. We want a viral video. Everyone's doing it. No, you got to have something funny to be a viral video. It's got to catch on. There's no way...

What's going on with Trump right now in these anti-Biden videos, which are being done by hordes of pretty much, from what I can tell, volunteers doing these things on their own and pumping them into the Twitter and whatever. Everywhere. Instead everywhere. Pumping him in everything.

This is, and a lot of them are catching on, a lot of them aren't, but this is the only way you can do it, and it's not something you can control. So here- And nobody's doing it on the Biden side. No, they can't. They're not funny. They have no humor. That's right. They have no humor. It's really odd because Americans have humor in general. We're funny. And the left and right used to be funny on both sides. What happened?

When did that change? It's like a brain quirk. I think it's been a slow thing. It's been slow. A brain quirk. So here's your analogy. A lot of people sent in a lot of thoughtful responses to what caused the video game crash in the 80s. And you saw them. You saw a lot of these.

The one thing that's very consistent is the failure of the ET game. Everybody has that as a part of it. And didn't they just, didn't they go and didn't they, um, didn't they destroy them in the desert or something or threw them into a landfill in New Mexico and crushed them with bulldozers? That's been more than one example of this, finding a dump and then taking thousands and thousands of cartridges and putting them in there. I think it was a new story even.

Yeah, but that wasn't the only game that was put in the landfill. But yes, the ET game, and I think the problem was it was overhyped. It was no good. And people lost confidence in the whole system. If you're taking your trick people into thinking something's good through marketing and through hype and through whatever, and then they're no good. I think this is happening to Biden, by the way. Well, wouldn't it be cool if they get really irked about it?

Wouldn't it be cool if they had to throw all those Nvidia GPUs into a big landfill and crush them with a bulldozer? I think hobbyists would grab them up. Of course, lots of fun to play with. And then the final, I think this is quite troublesome, particularly for podcasters, for presidential candidates, for anybody. This is an AI development, which is a very big problem. On the Medical Watch, detecting Alzheimer's by listening to the way someone speaks. A new AI tool has the power. Boston University researchers

used a machine learning model to analyze speech patterns. With a high degree of accuracy, they were able to predict whether someone with mild cognitive impairment would develop Alzheimer's dementia within six years. Typically, assessments to diagnose Alzheimer's do not come back in time to make meaningful decisions about interventions to slow the progression of the mind-robbing disease. The AI program was nearly 80% accurate in determining whether someone would remain stable or fall into dementia associated with Alzheimer's.

We need to do some of this work. This is, here's an exit. You know, You know, I think, hold on a second. You know, I think that this entire story is a plant to hurt Biden. Well, hurt anybody, anybody you want. No, I think this is another one of these weird, targeted, anti-Biden things that's going on right now just because of association. You start talking about, oh, AI can spot Alzheimer's. There's never a mention of Biden, of course, but it's the first thing you think of. That's the weird thing. I think this is, this is bull crap. That's the weird

thing. The associations, oh, Biden? Yeah. That's the first thing I thought of when the story started playing. But if you have that kind of voice recognition or the illusion of that kind of recognition, it could be all kinds of cool stuff. You know, will you turn into an ax murderer? You could use it as a lie detector. Yeah. Which supposedly the computers have done years ago. There's, oh yeah, we got this situation here and you can talk into the computer and we can tell if you're lying. No, you can take your teenage girls and you say, okay, talk in here. Oh, you're a boy.

There it is. It's simple. I'm telling you. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage saying the morning to you, the man who put the sea in Captain Chaos. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeVorent. Me and the morning to you, Mr. Adam Karim. My sense is you give everyone a gigantic energy in the air. Something's in the water and David's nice out there. Wow. Good Biden invitation. Hello, trolls. Joke out.

Let me count you. I got hairy legs. invitation. Hello, trolls. We got 1657 trolls on board today. That is a step up from the 1609 on the last Thursday, which I did live from Amsterdam, the Netherlands from the airport. The trolls are in the troll room at trollroom.io. And of course, they may also be listening on a modern podcast app. Try TrueFans. TrueFans is a web app. You can use it on any device. You don't need to install anything. And it'll give you an alert. Actually, this is quite cool how web apps can give alerts these days. It'll give you an alert when we go live. It can also alert you when we publish 90 seconds after that using the Podping technology,

all part of the independent decentralized podcasting 2.0, the only media format and distribution system that is not prone to deplatforming or censorship. Of course, there's no way to make money in it either. May I, I gotta clip that. There was some black podcasters and they were moaning about how pod everyone in podcastings broke and there's no more minimum guarantees.

The bottom's fallen out. Oh, that's because they were dependent. They would. Yes. They were dependent on Spotify money and Spotify pulled the plug and everything fell apart except for this show because our producers support us. And they do those black guys. If there's, if their podcast's any good, they could have to do the same thing. It's actually the black girls are even funnier.

Podcasts is any good. They could do the same thing. You know, the, so we, we have the value for value model, which, um, we developed over the past, uh, I don't know, it'd be 17 years in October. And we decided that the best way to keep doing this is by having our producers support us with time, talent, or treasure. We had a good example of talent and time

is the boots on the ground reports, people hitting people in the mouth, people doing organizing meetups, people creating clips, creating jingles, helping us out in general stuff that the mainstream can't even do with their paid producers. How many producers can you have? Yeah, on a show like this, none. Okay, maybe one, but then you have to give up your Neumann mics. So, you know, this is a perfect model. It's a roller coaster often, but it's a model that works. And we have another adopter. This is the, let's see, this is Uncharted X. A quick note to let you know that this video is being brought to you by my amazing supporter

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and associate executive producers right here, which is $200 and above. We read your note that you're an associate. $300 and above, you're an executive producer. And kind of like Hollywood, you know, and in fact, it's exactly like Hollywood because these are real credits. You can use them anywhere.

You can put them on your IMDB and coming in top dog. Wait, wait, wait. What about the art? Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot. I forgot that two weeks ago too. Didn't I? Yeah.

And last time then you condemned me for not catching it. This time I caught it. Good job. We want to thank the immense talent from our artists, all of them, bar none, all of them Dutch masters. It's amazing that we have these Dutch masters creating this for us. And the artwork from episode 1671, you can find all these at noagendaartgenerator.com. We titled that it's the boyfriend. And the art came from Sir Shug, AKA Faux Diddley, classic, classic No Agenda product shot, pack shot. The new Gigabyte Crunch with this,

it was a Nestle's Crunch bar with even had No Agenda in it. That was the best part, I think. Yeah, the No Agenda logo done in a Nestle's, uh, it was a nice touch. Ripoff is beautiful. It was a nice touch. Let me see what else we had. We had, um, uh, babies vaping. I kind of liked that. You didn't like it. You thought it was something wrong with it. Um, um, we kind of like Matthew Dropco's, although it was very AI-y.

You know, the dude trying to keep us on the air and everything blowing up. He had two of those actually. Yeah. One with three arms, which was actually better because it was classic AI. We had a couple of seasons. Then the girl walked down the street with all the boiling with the eggs frying on the street. Yeah, was a bit much. Even you thought that was a bit much. Yeah, yeah, probably. Was there anything else? Extreme heat? I liked the candy bar quite a bit. Yeah, the candy bar was good. That was a very, and that's classic. No Agenda, product shots, always a winner. A lot of heat

warning things. And of course, again, it's a, a Dutch master, Sir Shug, we thank you very much. Noagendaartgenerator.com. Uh, you can see all of the artwork there. You can contribute, you can upload your own art and, uh, and be in the race. Of course, these artists are listening live, so they do it on the fly, which is amazing to me how they do it, except for the AI jockeys, the prompt jockeys. I get it.

Well, that's everybody now. Yeah, pretty much. I can tell you everything that's been uploaded so far is not going to get chosen. It's all AI. It's all AI, but I have to admit, I think the piece with the drooling, bug-eyed Biden called Juiced and Ready is at least humorous by Rick Harris. I do like the flags on his lapel too. Yeah, you're right. All right, all right, all right.

These also show up in our chapters. Dreb Scott always puts that together in your modern podcast app so you can see all of them rotating as we go through different topics on the show. Now back to our executive producers and our associate executive producer. He comes in usually once a month, sometimes it's six weeks. And here he is once again, Suronimus of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia, a number that is always a code of some sort. Baffling to us.

3612. I'm going to presume this came in cash. It came in with at least one $2 bill and it came in from some mailbox somewhere in the country as usual. It came in with six $2 bills. Oh, oh yes, five, for 12. Okay. And his typewritten note from Pseudonymous of Dogpatch and Lois Le Bovie. I hope all had a blessed Eid al-Adha. Eid al-Adha, I think it's Eid al-Adha. Thank you. Yeah, we were wondering if he was going to come in because every year he always gives us an Eid

donation. I wonder if he was at the Hajj thing. Because every year he gives us an Eid donation. I wonder if he was at the Hajj thing. I'm sure he's been to the Hajj, but I'm not necessarily this one. He has a note he wants to share with everyone. Thank you to all old and new producers for making this a valuable source of information, perspective, and insight.

The hard work and ball sweat from the... Wow, seronomous. This is a twist. This is a twist. The hard work and ball sweat from the two hosts plus the work of other producers offers wonderful value. As I travel, he always has a little... he's always on the road. As I travel, I'm noting some... We wonder what he does. I believe he's a salesman. As I travel, I am noting some empty international airline seats and easier hotel bookings. I don't always go to the best countries, but availability is getting easier. As well, carrying USD in my overseas travel as emergency backup, I have found it impossible to get new $100 bills,

as older ones are commonly discounted in less reputable countries. Well, that's interesting. Political fundraising has already made $2 bills scarce and now large new bills, except for $10 bills, are difficult to get. Digital dollars seem easier to print. You got that right, brother. Finally, to cross the bridge from the tolls scurry from the war in Sudan is expected to cause almost as many deaths from famine by September as the population of the West Bank. He's making a point here. The bricks are growing because they give a damn about their own people. The UN operates like a military planner fighting the last war explaining why the UK and

France are permanent members. No jingles, no karma. He's dropping some wisdom here. Yeah, he's got something eaten at him. He's up his craw there. Yeah, especially the UK and France and the UN. He's a little mad about that. Well, it's the war machine. This show hates it too. Yeah, that's probably why he donates.

Thank you very much, Sir Onimus of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia, always making it a happy, happy month at the end of the month. And happy eight years. Yes, it does. It makes a big difference. It does, it does. Thank you, sir.

Onward with, let me have the note open. And happy 18th. Yes, it does. It makes a big difference. It does. It does. Thank you, sir. Onward with, let me have a note open, with anonymous from Kurenz Bong, Kurenz Bong, which is typical, it sounds like an Australian city and it is, I guess, in New South Wales. He came with 890, 870. Which I think was 1,000 Australian. Probably, probably. But he says, ITM value for value T type 3 at US $1.00. In other words, he's a dollar an hour is what his donation is.

That's what it is. So he's listening for 898 hours and 70.70. Thank you for your courage. No jingles, no karma. Also, I don't want a dollary-do discount knighthood. Thank you for your courage. No jingles, no karma. Also, I don't want a dollary-do discount knighthood. Thank you. All right. None given. Thank you, Anonymous. Paul Vanderel.

Vandery? Is it an I? Looks like an L. I think it's an L. Oh yeah, Vanderel. Paul Vanderel, Mount Riverview, also from Down Under. How about that random number theory? Not so random though, but I think it's an L. Oh yeah, Vanderel. Vanderel.

Mount Riverview, also from Down Under. How about that random number theory? Not so random though. 666.66, he says, here's my donation. The devil's in the detail. With this donation, I remove my long time douchebag status and acknowledge my past hypocrisy. Oh dear. You've been deduced. my past hypocrisy. I am an atheist, perhaps agnostic since I don't see the proof in a God and doubt religion yet. Until the last year I never questioned the climate change religion and its prophets of doom and thanks to no agenda I have seen the errors of my ways. If you don't know the data fed into the models, how the models work and what comes

out of the models told to you from on high, you just can't be proven that it is but just belief for belief's sake. Amen. Thanks for hitting me in the mouth with a bit more common sense. Regards, Paul Vandrell from the Testing Grounds done under in Australia. Yes, you are the Testing Grounds. Thank you, Paul. Testing Grounds. Oh, that's, yeah, we talked about that a lot. So that may have contributed to getting two people to contribute. It worked. Let's keep doing it.

Ben Nidus in San Francisco, 369. I totally spaced on envelope for JCD at Club Mallard. So this makes it 469. I'm edging oh so close to the Duke Club. I have to make a new account on Mastodon pretty soon to be Duke of San Francisco. New account on Mastodon. I don't know what that is.

Mastodon, yeah. Here's the clip link that made me donate. This should be in the intro to no Agenda or an example of bad interview. You know, Charlie Rose would have handled this lady better and then he's got a clip which I didn't play. Yeah, I did. It was John Stewart talking to the Pentagon lady about the audit uh, about the audit of the Pentagon. Oh, okay. In honor of,

in honor of GPT four and Apple intelligence, the 4.0 meetup link is below. I just sold some shares moments ago from my Apple store genius bar days. And I, and I planned it... that's interesting. And I plan on bringing JCD cash in hand for the Duke upgrade. Whoo! Tell him to bring his sword. You better. I don't do that. I'm less than $600 away. I can be... I can bring gold as well if John prefers. Yeah, bring gold. Gold, please. Gold. Gold. Please plug in edition PayPal donation fluoride in your cup in San Francisco living so no one's

a no one's heard that jingle in a while. That's true. I hope you can find it. And then he has a it's a link to the meetup which is the next job. Yeah, the Albany meetup. Get John out of the house meetup yeah all right and I look forward to that I have the jingle good one uh we move on to thank you very much Ben Baron dude named Jeff 333.33 from New Jersey just jobs karma for me my brother and and my sister. We all need it. Well, let me give that to you. Hold on a second.

Where'd my jobs come? This is the, this is the good stuff. I pulled it out of the, out of the cellar. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You got karma. And we go on to the Sur Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility 333.33 and he writes, keeping it simple, love the show. Beautiful.

Don't try to pronounce my name. Call me Damaskin and it's Eugenie Damaskini, I think, from Boston, Massachusetts, 333.33. Karma from my dad, please. Thank you. From Damaskin. We'll just do as you request. Thank you. You've got karma.

Anonymous in Texas, 333. I'm sending up the bat signal to Gitmo Nation for help. I'm a pilot for a major US airline that got sent home for not accepting the jab into my life. Even though I received a religious accommodation, they accommodated me with being furloughed, laid off indefinitely. Those of us in this situation organized and sued. Nearly three years later this past Friday we were ruled as a class and now it goes forward. Have an outstanding law firm and they are not cheap. Please go to AE4HF.org. That's AE4HF.org. Aviation Employees for

Health Freedom. And hit the support button to donate to our legal fund. Can you please add this to the show notes? Yeah, I'll do that. I have no sad puppy to offer, but anything to help us against Goliath would be greatly appreciated. It's been said before, but your show has kept me sane through these times. God bless you and you both and all the producers.

No jingles, no karma, anonymous at angels33. Yeah, I was reading that this is like a billion dollar lawsuit. I think United is on the receiving end of this. They deserve it. I say so. And you know, what are they doing? They're putting these young kids in who are pushing forward instead of pulling back.

It's not good. Oh, see. Maybe if I push forward. Sir Michael Cedar Rapids, $300. Happy late birthday to my sister Darla promoting her small business with a link forward from NoAgendaTags.com. Have we even, have we ever seen this website? What? NoAgendaTags.com? Yeah, I've never heard of this.

I like it. NoAgendaTags.com. Check it out. Okay. She does 3D printing, embroidery, and equine supplies. Easy tags and easy equine essentials are her small biz from Sir Michael of the Midwest. And we've put her on the list. All right.

NoAgendaTags.com. So is it, is it, is that, uh, noagendaatags.com. So is it, is that, noagendatags.com? I mean, take a look. What is it? Is it tags? It's tags. We're under construction.

Oh. Well, that doesn't help. No. Oh, all right. No. What's, I wonder what Equine supplies she does to get a hold of Brunetti. There you go.

Linda Lepatkin's up. Hey, in Lakewood, Colorado. That's where she's from. $200 jobs karma for a competitive of Brunetti. There you go. Linda LePatkins up, hey! In Lakewood, Colorado, that's where she's from. $200 jobs karma for a competitive edge, she writes. Go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakersInc.com. Or just find Linda Lu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes on the producers list.

She's there. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You got karma. Then we got our final associate executive producership for Nellie Grossenbacher from Mesa, Arizona. I'll read her note and then you can explain the much longer note, which you were quite interested in. She says, thank you for the work that you both do. I've been listening to no agenda since January of 2019 right after I was thrown into the disaster written

out below. Short story, here is your portion of our winnings against Rockland County, New York County executor. 14 families fought for five years to prove that our healthy unvaccinated children were treated unjustly when they were excluded from schooling during the great New York measles epidemic of 2018-2019, which we of course followed quite closely on the show because boy, what a bunch of crock that was. And you got the full writing from her, John. She wrote a long essay, which I'm thinking of running in my sub-stack column, it's so good, about how her kids, you know, she didn't want to get the MMR vaccine and that would be probably a wise decision in some situations because she believed that her, didn't need

it and measles is not that big of a deal. And generally speaking, it's true. People aren't dropping dead from it. And they kicked her and her family out of the school. Hey, you can't come in. And it's a long story, but it's very interesting. And actually- You're thinking of republishing it.

Yeah, I've got that one. And there's another educational one from one of the teacher out there. Yes, I'm thinking that one and there's another educational one from someone, a teacher out there. Yes, I'm thinking of republishing it and some other ones. I think I'm going to do that. It's nice to see all these people getting some respite. Is that the right term?

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We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Shut up, slave! Yeah, shut up, slave. I'm going to get some Gaza stuff out of the way. Okay. So now I'm going to play this. Play this. It's Lloyd Austin Gaza Report. Oh, and the good NTD bit. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin is meeting his Israeli counterpart in Washington today.

That's as controversy as taking hold in Israel as the military has to start drafting ultra-orthodox men. NTD's international correspondent Ariane Postar has the Israel update. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin is meeting his Israeli counterpart in DC. Now finally, this is NTD, man. That lead-in is no good. They got to have this guy on all the time. He's great. He's perfect. Secretary Lloyd Austin is meeting his Israeli counterpart in DC. Now the meeting comes as Israel plans to move troops from Gaza to the Lebanese border to tackle Hezbollah. But this plan, of course, is increasing concerns about a wider conflict in the region.

I am extremely concerned about the rise in rocket attacks on Israel's north from Lebanese Hezbollah and the recent surge in tensions. Austin says that a war between Israel and Hezbollah could easily become a regional conflict. Israel's national security adviser says they will spend weeks using diplomatic means to try to find a middle ground with the Iran-backed terrorist group. But if that doesn't work, they will use different methods to attempt to bring calm to the Israel-Lebanon border. The U.S. is urging Israel to use diplomacy, although provocations are ramping up.

Hezbollah's provocations threaten to drag the Israeli and Lebanese people into a war that they do not want. Meanwhile in Israel, the Supreme Court on Tuesday ruled that the military must begin drafting ultra-orthodox men. Israelis are divided. We're at a time of war, and at a time of war everyone has to take their part. It's not a good decision, but why is it not a good decision? At a time of war, everyone has to take their part. It's not a good decision, but why is it not a good decision?

Because the army does not respect Haredi people. They don't respect it. The historic ruling puts an end to a decades-old system that granted ultra-orthodox men exemptions from military service. Yeah, this is pretty controversial. Oh, yeah, it's a big deal. Can this bring Bibi down? Oh, I don't think so.

I think the Israeli population as a whole, first of all, they don't like these people. When I was in Israel, I got a tour. Oh, this is from your A from your eight pack babysitter. You know, the one who still sends us checks. No, this was a guy who was publishing PC magazine, Israel at the time. No. And he took me all over the country.

I went everywhere, North, South, in between. And he took me to one of the quote unquote villages where these Hasidics live. And you could just tell that the Israelis as a whole. They don't like them. They don't like these people and they think they're pigs, literally is what he said. And he said, look at the garbage.

And the place was kind of garbagey, it was a mess. And they really don't like these people. So I don't think this is gonna, if anything, I think it may have been done to keep keep BB in office. Just the opposite. Oh, interesting. Okay. Hmm. Part two of this clip, the head of the UN's Palestinian Refugee Agency says it's getting more complicated to move trucks with aid from Israel into Gaza. We are confronted nowadays to a near total breakdown of law and order. The US State Department explained the problem on Tuesday.

Random looting and criminal gangs and criminal actors who have been attacking trucks. He added that the US is now working on a solution. One option is to give UN staff personal protective equipment so they can defend themselves against violent gangs which are building up. Oh, PPE, they're going to get masks? is to give UN staff personal protective equipment so they can defend themselves against violent gangs which are building up. Oh, PPE, they're going to get masks? I don't know. He said personal protective equipment, PPE, that's masks and face shields.

One of those Lloyd Austin face shields. I have a CBS version of the Ultra-Orthodox report. So following some breaking developments out of Israel this morning that could threaten Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's grip on power there. Oh, see, they think it could threaten his grip. Israel's Supreme Court has ruled that ultra-orthodox... I would stop for a second. You know, American mainstream media hates him for some reason. And every report that they give is that he is always negative.

But if you get reports outside of the country, it's, you don't hear any of this. I'm not buying this idea that he's, you know. No, they're running cover for Biden. They're running cover. We send weapons, they run cover. BB pretends we didn't, oh, he didn't send it. You know, it's running cover.

It's all cover. It's all, it's CBS, come on, it's CBS. Come on. The Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's grip on power there. Israel's Supreme Court has ruled that ultra-orthodox religious men must be drafted into the military there like just about everyone else. Most Jewish Israeli men and women are required at age 18 to serve in the armed forces starting at 18 for two to three years, two for women, three for men. But ultra-orthodox communities had been exempted from the rule.

The court's decision could lead to Netanyahu losing support from ultra-orthodox parties in his coalition government, which could trigger new elections. The head of one of those parties called the ruling, quote, very unfortunate and disappointing. I don't think that's true. I thought only, isn't only Netanyahu can call new elections? Can it just be triggered if there's a parliamentary crisis? I have to do some research to know for sure. This whole Lebanon thing is so annoying.

All right, so we've cleaned up Gaza, but now we're gonna keep going. You got me. I have one more. I'm baffled by it. So I would be kind of in line with it. It's the war machine. It's the war machine and we're behind it. Yes.

Thank you. It's the war machine. In fact, I have a, have a great, there was a great advertisement on CNA, which is, I think the China News Agency? Yeah, I think so. Well, I don't know whose side they're on, but this is an obvious, oh boy, we need more money. We need money.

We need money because we don't have this gear. Hypersonic missiles tipped with either conventional or nuclear warheads can hone in on their targets at least five times faster than the speed of sound. They are a new threat because weapons that effectively counter them are yet to be fully developed and deployed and that could redefine the global balance of military power. China is seen to be leading the world when it comes to building up its arsenal, a milestone the United States has acknowledged. Two notable missiles are the DF-17, a medium-range ballistic missile equipped with a hypersonic glide vehicle, and the

DF-41, which can be armed with up to a dozen nuclear-capable warheads. Russia, another producer of the high-speed projectiles, is the first country to use them in combat. At least two types are known to have been deployed so far in this invasion of Ukraine. That's the air launched Kinjal or dagger and the sea launched Zircon, which uses a hypersonic glide vehicle. Yeah. I think we need to have some congressional hearings. Well, what just happened, we should note, you might as well put this in there.

It's not covered by the mainstream, but it's covered by the defense newsletters, is that chief of the Next Generation ICBM project was fired. So? The government went way over budget, they didn't know what to do about it, they can't seem to get this next generation, this is a problem with all of our next generation technologies. Nobody can, it overruns, they can't estimate correctly. It's horrible. And so this guy got canned and now we're just basically just blown in the wind.

We don't have anybody running the program basically over the next generation ICBM, which is supposed to have been done by now. It's not even close. Well, I take this CNA report to be some kind of propaganda for the war machines. Like, you know, China's got them, Russia's got them, could change the global power balance. We need it, need some money.

Yeah, you can just wait for it. Yeah, well, this definitely need money. We need money. I thought it was kind of funny, this interview a little bit here with Jack Reed, who was a Democrat from Rhode Island, about the drafts. Of course, there's always been talk of drafting women in the United States. And here we are. Senator, one thing on your plate right now is the National Defense Authorization Act.

I mean, this is for all who don't follow the NDA, this is a massive bill that sets Pentagon policy guiding funding for the year ahead. Sets policy. No, it robs us of $900 billion policy. Included this time in various versions is proposal that would make registering for the draft automatic and also a move in the Senate to expand it to women for the first time. What's going to happen with this? Well I think it is an entirely sensible idea. It was recommended by a

national bipartisan commission on National service and we took that recommendation and it was in 2016 and 2017 publicly supported by all our uniform chiefs of staff Because it makes sense 17 percent of the military today is composed of women They're in every aspect of service combat arms technical services, etc. And we're in a situation where all we're trying to do is register. There's no draft in place today. It would take Congress to act, to pass legislation, to create a draft, and in that legislation they could make distinctions, clarifications, whatever Congress thought.

But without this registration requirement we are missing on a vast pool of talent. I mean it's interesting, we're talking about Israel. Their armed forces have been gender neutral for decades and decades. But now Israel. Yeah, now Israel's great. Then gender neutral for decades and decades and decades. And they're one of the most effective fighting forces in the country.

In the country? Are they here? Are they fighting here? In the country? Yeah, that's a good one. No, no, no, no, not in the country. This fits neatly into an executive order or a executive pardon from President Biden, which came out the day before yesterday.

President Joe Biden will pardon thousands of US military veterans who were convicted under a law that banned gay sex. Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice was in place from 1951 through 2013. Thousands of service members were convicted and faced court martial during that time. President Biden said in a statement that he's righting a wrong for those service members who were convicted for simply being themselves. The White House says thousands of veterans will be impacted by the move. Anyone convicted for non-consensual acts will not be pardoned.

Now, this is interesting from a number of perspectives. First of all, this was overturned in 2013 during Obama. But the actual article, 125, is being played every day. If you just do a search, If you just do a search, code USC925, article 125, you'll get LGBTQ, pride flags, it's all beautiful, it's all great, go Joe. But this was actually about one thing, sodomy. It wasn't a gay thing per se. It was obviously not a very modern thought, but any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.

I just wanted to be correct on that. I thought it was interesting. Yeah, this is another lame attempt by Biden to buy votes. Yeah, LGBTQ votes. It turns out that everybody that was kicked out will get money. They get the money that they would have had. And if they're dead, your family will get the money. Somebody gets money.

Yeah. And so this is another giveaway. Yes. Yes. Yes. You're right. He does a good job of that. Yeah. Well, he also, he tried that with the, he tried that with the, what was it, the, the

student loans. Yeah. I was taking a couple of shots at that. That got turned down. It got turned down. It got rebooted. Yeah. Let me see.

I think I have it here. And some people do have some free money. Let me see. Well, actually, let me see. This is NBC. Tonight, a campaign promise aimed at millions of student borrowers hangs in the balance. We made a commitment to fix our broken student loan system. One of President Biden's programs to slash student loan debt is partially on hold. After two federal judges temporarily blocked further relief from what's known as the SAVE Plan. Eight million borrowers are enrolled in the program that ties the amount of loan repayment

to income and family size. Under its rules, about four million borrowers qualify for no monthly payment. Others get a deep reduction. Austin Davis is a special education teacher who says he and his wife Brooks saw their monthly payments dropped from nearly $1600 down to $480. Without this we would not have been able to afford the costs to be able to have our own house to live with our daughter. Two separate lawsuits were brought by Republican attorneys general across 18 states, arguing

that the education secretary overstepped his authority and that states holding loans could be harmed. The president has no textual basis in law for this plan and I'm not going to let Joe Biden saddle working Missouri families with Ivy League debt. Education Secretary Miguel Cardona late today. People shouldn't have to choose between groceries and the student loans. Some Republicans are working harder to stop what we're doing to help than to offer any solutions. The administration says it intends to vigorously defend the relief program.

Oh, God. Just more left, right, left, right. to vigorously defend the relief program. asked to come and be in the audience because a number of people are going to speak against the books. And I thought, well, this is, I'd like to know what's going on with this. You know, this is all the, all the books, all the, I have examples of these books. I would not even read them on the show. Yeah. I mean, Yeah, they're books that promoting sodomy. That should bring it up. Yeah. I mean, really like with your grandpa and all kinds of it was really weird.

And so it's gotten to the point where these books are in the Fredericksburg school, but they're in a special room that's locked. And you have to get parent permission to go in and read them, which of course nobody does. No, of course not. Why would you? And so a number of people spoke, a lot of very upset moms. And John, it was amazing. Everyone just looked at them or didn't even look at them really.

And then the meeting just kept on going. There was no discussion about it. And I realized that everyone's in like irons. They're stuck. No one can say anything, no one can discuss it. The school board has been told that they can't get rid of these books because then the ACLU will sue them personally.

The whole thing is a mess. And meanwhile, they're handing out trophies. I swear to God, a trophy three feet high to a teacher with the best attendance record. It was the most bizarre thing I've ever seen. And they're clapping, you know, they're clapping. It was sad really. And then you hear the moms like, well, they're not learning anything.

They're on their phone three hours a day. And it's like, what is going on? We've gotten to this point where- The schools are no good. It's completely rotten to the core. And there's some administrator who, no one wanted the job. They had to bring some guy in from Tyler, Texas. He doesn't even live here. And, you know, and I don't know, it's just,

you're right, the schools are no good. They have to blow it up somehow. I mean, not- I don't know how they're gonna do it. It's very difficult. Yeah, well- They can't fix it. It's not have to blow it up somehow. I mean, I don't know how they're going to do it. It's very difficult. Yeah. Well, they can't, they can't fix it. It's not fixable. It looks like. It really doesn't look like it's fixable. It really doesn't. It's just, it's a big problem. I don't know.

And I'm sure that this is just a microcosm of what's going on everywhere. No, it's probably worse everywhere else. I would have to assume. But people aren't, I mean, they aren't even engaging in discussion. Just like, okay, thanks, next. All right, you got something to say? All right. Yeah. Pastor Mike gets up, reads some Bible stuff, you know, beautiful. No, no. All right, thanks, Pastor Mike. All right, let's get over to the budget. Get off the stage. What? Get off the stage. Let's get to the budget. What? Get off the stage. They didn't say that, but well, they were thinking it.

I'm thinking homeschooling people. Homeschooling is the way to go. Or something. Something has to be rethought. Let's talk a little bit about this. Another thing that's not covered much by the mainstream, which is EV dissatisfaction. Oh, well, I love EV dissatisfaction. Oh, you're dissatisfied and you don't even have an EV. I thought you said ED. I got EV dissatisfaction. Yes. Okay. Let's play it.

A new survey says that 46% of American EV owners are likely to switch back to gas cars. Entities David Lamb hears from some Californians who either love their EVs or have the best of both worlds. The 2024 McKinsey & Company Mobility Consumer Global Survey shows 46% of EV owners surveyed in the United States said they will likely return to driving gas powered vehicles. Worldwide, that number is 29% among 30,000 respondents in 15 countries. But in California, a handful of EV owners entities spoke to said they love their vehicles.

In California, I think it makes sense to use EV cars because the gas prices are higher than the other states and there are some incentives to use EV cars. I could never imagine paying for gas again. I had to run a car for a week and I was like, oh my God, this is just being at a gas station and spending like a hundred dollars. For those wanting to return to driving gas powered cars, Australia topped the list with 49% confirming so. The lack of public charging stations was the main reason.

The other reasons were the inability to charge at home 24% and too much worry and stress about charging 21%. Some in California say there are plenty compared to other states. Well, we actually live in LA. A lot of real estate? You get around a lot faster. You can use all the commuter lanes. There's a lot of places to charge. And gas just got so expensive.

The only reason why I really bought it is because my company gives me free charging. But yeah, I'm okay with electric so far. Yeah, but wait until they get the per mile tax. They won't be so happy then. I like the idea that, I like this electric car because my company gives me free electricity. So you drive it to work, you work eight hours at the company and it's charging your car for free.

Yeah, I think I'd get electric car too if I had that deal. Now here's the kicker in part two of this clip. And some say they still need gas cars, such as for heavy lifting and long distances. If you've got a trailer with cattle in it, you're not gonna do that with an electric vehicle, pulling it up into the hills. Some people will have to have gas cars because of this kind of thing. I like it a lot because my other car is a V8 and I use that for weekend and I still

like that sound of the V8 car. According to the Bloomberg NEF, the upcoming presidential election also caused jitters in the US EV market, slowing down EV adoption this year. In the landmark 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, lawmakers approved $7.5 billion to build 500,000 public charging stations nationwide along interstates. To date, only eight public EV charging stations have been deployed in the US. Eight public EV charging stations have been deployed in the US. Yeah, we all know that. 500,000.

Don't you remember when Biden ran against Trump the first time? Yeah. Oh, we're going to build 500,000. It's going to be good union paying jobs. And after four years, we've got eight? Eight? Well, yes, we know this because this is... In fact, I have...

How about this? From 2019, from the debates. My plan calls for 500,000 charging stations around the country. So by 2030, we're all electric vehicles. There you go. That's from the 2019 debates for the 2020 election. That was his plan. And we know that Pete Buttigieg was called out on it. Let me ask you about a portion of this that I think does fall under your portfolio, and that's the charging stations you mentioned. The Federal Highway Administration says only seven or eight charging stations have been produced with a seven and a half billion investment

that taxpayers made back in 2021. Why isn't that happening more quickly? So the president's goal is to have half a million chargers up by the end of this decade. Now in order to do a charger it's more than just plunking a small device into the ground. There's utility work and this is also really a new category of federal investment. But we've been working with each of the 50 states. Every one of them is getting formula dollars to do this work. Eng engaging them in the first handful again by 2030, 500,000 chargers and the very first handful of chargers are now already being physically built. Hey, here's a thought. The money's gone. How about that? The money was spent on something else. It was, oh, that's an interesting idea. There's no more money.

Because I'll tell you right now down the street from me, there are 10 Tesla chargers. And there are other Tesla chargers here and there around the area. And so this, and they can only, the government can only with their $7 billion can only build eight? Yeah. Yeah. It has to have been stolen. I think the money's gone.

And Pete knows it. Oh, you know, hey, it's the have been stolen. I think the money's gone. And Pete knows it. Well, you know, hey, it's the end of the decade. Yeah, 2030. Even if you got re-elected, you wouldn't be in office in 2030. One of the big things that EVs struggle with, of course, is the promise of improved battery technology, which never really seems to get much better. But there is a new battery technology that has just emerged. I'm very bullish on this.

Sand is hot enough to heat your home. Remember how you have to jump on the scorching beach in the summer? Sand can store energy like a battery. This Finnish company is now turning sand into thermal batteries to heat homes and could help heavy industry transition away from fossil fuels. They heat up the air with electrical resistors. The hot air circulates through the cold sand, transferring heat. The sand can hold its heat for months and at really high temperatures, up to 600 degrees Celsius. It can then be released as hot water or steam as needed.

Is a greener, cheaper alternative to lithium batteries. But that's because this sand is low-grade, plentiful, and not suitable for construction. Globally, sand mining is notoriously damaging to the environment. For now, this innovation is limited to regions with abundant clean energy sources and sand supplies. I'm thinking, I'm going to give up on the gasifier. I'm going to get me a big, big vat of sand and make a sand supplies. I'm thinking this is, I'm going to give up on the gasifier. I'm going to get me a big, big vat of sand

and make a sand battery. Oh, please. This is such bull crap. A sand battery. It's the best. I mean, so sand, who knew sand can keep a heat for months at 600 degrees centigrade?

It has to be well insulated. I'm sure it could. I don't believe any of that actually, even insulated. This is better than the salt battery. I love, you imagine like- What do you got in the backyard there, Bill? Oh, I got the big sand battery. Thing is huge.

Just have a trailer behind your Tesla with a big thing of sand, a little steam engine on it. Whoever gets you that clip should get an award. Welcome back. Right now, extreme heat, baking millions of Americans. We're baking. With heat advisories in place across the country. We just saw a weekend of triple digit temperatures.

Oh no! New York State's Department of Health reporting hundreds of heat related emergency visits. Nearly five times what it typically sees this time of year. While the Northeast and the Atlantic states are getting a very, very short reprieve. Very, very. For now, the Southeast and the Southern Pl plains remain dangerously hot. NBC's Aaron McLaughlin has more on this wild weather. Aaron? Hey there. Over the weekend here in New York, it was absolutely scorching. It's expected

to be a bit better today, but across the country, it's still looking pretty extreme. It's not. How's the weather in your part of the country, John? Across the country. Let's talk about across the country. How you doing over there? John Ligato Well, I can tell you what my temperature is around 67, 68. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Are you baking yet? John Ligato Yeah.

Yeah, I'm baking. Dr. Justin Marchegiani You must be baking. John Ligato It's killing me. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Yeah. We have 95. John Ligato I have to actually wear a couple of layers. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Right now we have 95 which is okay. Yeah you've got some hot temperatures but for Texas, I've been to Texas. But normally it's in

the hundreds by now. Yeah normally it's like 105, it's dry though, dry heat. Very dry, very dry. I've been to Texas, it's been like 108 and it was actually very tolerable, not like Phoenix. I go out, I take the dog out wearing my hoodie. I'm not kidding. Well, it's an insulator. Yeah, but it's- Insulation goes both ways. It's not cold, it's not hot yet. It's like, it's all right, you know, just go out.

It's fine. This is all lies, all lies. And then let's bring in the biggest liar in the universe. Who is the biggest liar when it comes to climate change? And by the way, he's a dope. We haven't heard from him for a while. I don't know. Bill Nye the science guy, of course.

Oh God. For more on what's driving the extreme weather and whether the new normal is with us now, I'm joined by science educator, Bill Nye. Oh, now he's a science educator, John. He's a science educator. That's interesting. He used to be a clown.

Wasn't he a rodeo clown or something? Now he's Bill. He actually does have a degree in like electrical engineering or something. Yes, he's an educator. I'm joined by science educator, Bill Nye. Good morning, Bill. It's so great to have you with us this morning.

There are very few people watching us this morning who aren't experiencing sweltering heat this morning around the world. It's summer! Flooding, wildfires. Yes, it's summer. Officially it's been summer for a week now. It's summer.

Oh, very few people haven't been witnessing the sweltering heat. Oh, wow! Give us your read on that. Is this the new normal? Is it the new normal? Oh, how long? That we have a hot summer?

Is that what she's asking? How long? Is it the new normal that summer is going to be warm? When is the first time we heard new normal? Ooh, that's a good one. 2012. Of the soybean crop is rated very poor to poor. 66% of the nation's hay fields are in drought.

So is 73% of the cattle land. This could be the new normal in the United States. So we need to plan ahead because we know, and the science tells us, that under a changing climate, droughts will be more frequent and more intense across the United States. Tell, tell it to the floods in Minnesota. So it was the new normal in 2012. It was the new normal, but is this the new normal? Give us your read on that. Is this the new normal? It's the beginning of the new normal.

Oh, it's the beginning of the new normal. So the latest... The beginning, at least from our perspective, was in 2012, but I guess not. No, well hey, hey, hey, you're not a science educator, so. It's the beginning of the new normal, with respect. So the latest research is that there's not a turning point or a tipping point or a knee in the curve, it's just going to get hotter and hotter and worse and worse and more and more extreme.

Oh. So this is a taste of the normal of the future, unless the humankind get to work and address it. Oh, this is so great. I think we need to know what we can do about this. I mean, obviously, we're baking, this is excoriating, people are just, we can't stand it anymore. What can we do, Bill Nye Science Guy? What do we need to do right now, in your view? Well, there's two things, everybody.

I say this all the time. The first thing is talk about climate change. Guy, talk about it. Because nobody's talking about it? Not enough. Is that the reason? Not enough. If we were talking with our families and friends.

Oh, John, I want to have a chat with you about climate change. Okay. What are you doing to stop climate change? I stopped listening to the evil that talk about climate change. That's all they talk about. And people we vote for about climate change, we'd be much more inclined to do something about it. And then the other thing I always say is vote.

Do what about it? He says we'd be more inclined to do something about it. What? Votes. He says votes. So we have a situation like- Oh, so vote Democrat, never mind. He says vote so we have a situation Democrat nevermind Yes now here in the United States where one side one political party isn't acknowledging the problem Let alone coming up with a plan to do something about it furthermore the other side is

Cowtowing is doing what the fossil fuel industry wants to do and as Upton Sinclair said it's hard for a man to Change his mind when his income a man to change his mind when his income depends on not changing his mind. Hello, what you say is yourself with your head through half. That's right. You can't change Bill Nye's mind because his income depends on it. His income depends on this nonsense. It really is.

Yeah. Climate change. You know, there was this article, everyone was tweeting it and like, oh, look at this. How is this possible? Washington Post. The scariest thing about climate change, question mark, global cooling. Now, did you see this? Did you see this? No, I maybe I ran by me. I'll give you the high, because no one really read it. It's like, oh, please, can we get over this whole thing?

But okay. So here's the, so the, the byline, we've been accidentally cooling the planet and it's about to stop. Humans fossil fuel burning has cooled the planet while warming it. That makes nothing but sense. Yeah. I think you made the right sound. Sorry. So the idea is that because we've been cleaning up air pollution by not burning fossil fuels, all those little itty bits of particles from combustion of coal, oil and gas, they actually reflect sunlight and spur the

formation of clouds shading the planet from the sun's rays. But since we're cleaning up our act, now we have less clouds. I know where this is leading by the way. We have less clouds, so now the planet will warm even faster because we're doing such a good job of stopping climate change. Now, of course, what they're trying to do here is twofold. One is we have to work even faster to stop, to get everyone in an electric vehicle with eight charging stations. Work even faster because of the sunspot cycles

before things turn around naturally. Exactly. We have to work faster because once they start turning around naturally, then the jig is up. We're already there. The solar cycle has already peaked. This is why it's only 95. They're gaslighting us, surprise. What? And I think this is also a nod towards Bill Gates' climate geoengineering, spraying, creating clouds, spraying stuff in the air.

I think this will be misused by them. Contaminating the entire world's environment. That's a great idea. But let's go back to the science guy, the educator. If you meet with people who don't believe in climate change, don't believe in global warming, and there are a lot of them... Stop, stop. You notice that they have to use the word believe as though it was a faith. Correct. And notice she says global warming and not climate change.

That's interesting. Well, if you're a believer... Ah, yes. It's the same thing. It's climatism. If you meet with people who don't believe in climate change, don't believe in global warming, and there are a lot of them, what do you say to them? What do you say to them to convince them? Believe! So, if I could convince people in one sitting that would be fabulous but that is proven quite difficult. I tell everybody it takes it takes years where people see the evidence see the evidence and the

problem we have in climate change is we don't have a 9-11 or a Pearl Harbor. We need a 9-11 ah okay we need a 9-11 or is he Harbor. We need a 9-11. Ah, okay. We need a 9-11 or... Is he telegraphing something here? This is... You got to be careful of this science educator guy. Yeah, but what could possibly happen? Anything this natural that happens,

it reverses the situation, like a big volcano going off. It cools the earth. Well, we need some kind of 9-11. I don't know what this is. Or a Pearl Harbor. There is no, it's not coming. And the problem we have in climate change

is we don't have a 9-11 or a Pearl Harbor. It's just too bad. It's slow motion. Because, you know, 9-11, that didn't kill anybody. Oh yeah, a million Iraqis, yeah, we need one of those. So everybody that I speak with acknowledges that the climate is changing. Just the what? Everyone, of course, because it's always changing. It does that historically is what it does.

The nudge that we work on and people on my side of this is pointing out that humans are causing it and we're doing it Because we've been we've had Created this wonderful quality of life for so many people by burning Carbon ancient swamps a coal oil gas We just got to stop doing that. Yeah, you first bill We just got to stop doing that. You first, Bill. I got a, actually I have a quick update, both the boots on the ground, but here is the,

we're kind of low, we're kind of low and slow on the bird flu. The United States government is working to fund a human bird flu vaccine trial for Moderna according to a report by the Financial Times. Right now H5N1 bird flu is spreading among wild birds causing outbreaks in poultry and dairy cows. The USDA has also detected the virus in our nation's milk supply. On April 24th, the USDA announced a federal order requiring lactating dairy cows be tested. I love requiring lactating dairy cows be tested. I love the lactating dairy cows. If they're not lactating, does it not count?

Chest feeders. Prior to interstate movement, announcing financial assistance for producers with affected herds. Just this week, Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds issued a disaster proclamation for Sioux County, Iowa, after it was revealed that more than four million chickens would have to be killed after a bird flu outbreak at a farm. And two dairy workers, one in Texas and one in Michigan, contracted the virus and left. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Yeah, yeah. They haven't even gotten the third. Dr. Robert J. Daly The same two guys that were infected months ago.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani Yeah, they recovered. Dr. Robert J. Daly Or this is still the- Dr. Justin Marchegiani But they recovered. Dr. Robert J. Daly The spearhead, these two guys. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Yes. They recovered. Luckily, they recovered. Dr. Robert J. Daly One in Texas and one in- Dr. Robert J. Daly Oh the spearhead, these two guys. They recovered. Luckily, they recovered. One in Texas and one in Michigan.

Oh, they got so lucky. They are the so lucky pink-eye. In Michigan. They had pink-eye. They contracted the virus in the last two months. However, they've since both recovered and the Centers for Disease Control says the current public health risk is low. So I talked to my friends in the testing industrial complex because you know CDC had called

a meeting of all everyone in the complex. Hey we got testing, testing, testing, testing, we got to do some testing everybody ready for some testing, gotta do some testing, you ready for some testing, gotta do some testing. So here is the report I received. They downplayed H5N1 and said risks were low. Then they focused on dengue fever infections. And the emails coming in today are content heavy. It may only be a topic right now because of the summer weather, but I noticed many hot words

that were reflective of the COVID-19 speak during the pandemic. Send some screenshots. Recommendations for health providers. Maintain a high suspicion for dengue among patients with fever and recent travel. Order appropriate FDA approved dengue tests, which are PCR, and do not delay treatment waiting for test results to confirm dengue. How many times have they tried the dengue thing is never panned out? Never. No, it's because it's a subtropical disease that's pretty hard to get. Now, I had a

friend, an editor of mine, had dengue when she was younger. And she's dead now? She's gone? She's six feet under? No, she's fine. But she said it's not, it's uncomfortable to have, but she says that whatever the case is, whatever you do, never take aspirin. That's what kills you. Really? Yeah. Because the aspirin is a, is a blood,

like it has a blood thinning quality to it of some sort. And dengue is looking for something like that. It's just not no good. You can't use it. And that's the main thing to know. That's all I was told. That's a good tip. That's it. That's an actual very good tip. It's a tip at the end of the show. The tip of the tip of the week. Of course, whatever, if you get dengue, you know, don't take aspirin.

This is basically all it is. Good tip. It is the summer, of course, which means COVID's on the rise. And another alert this summer about a COVID comeback. COVID comeback. Once again on the rise fueled by new variants. Don't please. Erin McLaughlin now with the latest updated guidance on masking and isolation. I play this clip for you because I guarantee you'll be seeing people with masks everywhere in California. Tonight for a growing number of Americans, this summer of sizzling temps is also the

summer of sick. The summer of sizzling temps is also the summer of sick. The number of COVID cases now on the rise nationwide. Listen to the ambulance background Nat Pop. Nice. Also the summer of sick. The number of COVID cases now on the rise nationwide. So far, 15 states have higher, very high levels of the virus in their wastewater,

according to the latest data released by the CDC. I would probably characterize it more as a swell. It's certainly more than we've seen in the last few months. As people crowd indoors to escape the heat, the virus spreads. This year's uptick is thanks to the so-called FLIRT variants, some variants of Omicron which now account for more than 60% of COVID cases. COVID-19 is indeed becoming more mild over time. Population immunity has been going up and therefore the severity of the illness has been going down.

And yet it's still worse than the flu. Yes. COVID-19 is still worse than the flu. It is the flu. Shut up. The outcomes of COVID-19 are still worse than the flu. Doctors say the elderly and immunocompromised are still at high risk. That's not a true story. No, the flu kills a lot of people every year, except the year that it was gone entirely. It's so amazing. Yeah, that was a weird year. That, except the year that it was gone entirely.

It's so amazing. That was a weird year. It was a strange year. We just got lucky. We dodged a bullet. We did. All worse than the flu. The outcomes of COVID-19 are still worse than the flu.

Doctors say the elderly and immunocompromised are still at high risk of severe disease and should consider masking in public spaces and make sure they're up to date on their vaccines. While preventative, masking for healthy individuals is no longer recommended by the CDC. They say if you're infected, wearing a mask can prevent spread. Yes. As for isolating, the CDC has updated their guidance saying that if you have symptoms, stay isolated. Otherwise, you don't need to isolate even if you're testing positive. That new guidance has raised some concern among medical experts Lester

yeah CDC says if you test positive but you don't feel bad then just go outside okay well I'll take the word for it what they what they missed in that report is to promote the I think we're now at COVID booster number nine. I think it's number nine, number nine, number nine is in play. And still with everything we know, all the models, all we know about climate change, all the things we know about COVID, just so much incredible science that has been done in the past four years. We still can't figure out these strokes and heart attacks. It's baffling everybody, but we have a new theory.

Dr. Gupta, always good to see you. So talk to us about what this study found in terms of loneliness and how it can actually lead to an increased risk of stroke. Loneliness. How is that possible? That's it. We're saying, I mean, this is surprising to all of us because... Wait, hold on. Let's stop and just think about this before you continue this clip.

So instead of hypertension or getting worked up or getting mad and angry because you got a mate there that you know messes up the place or who knows what or you're in with a bunch of people that are idiots and you have to get scream at them, which could just blow a blood vessel. You're by yourself with low blood pressure, semi-depress, you're just sitting around, maybe watching television, and boom, there goes your stroke. Is that what causes strokes, loneliness? This seems to be the issue at hand.

To all of us, because there's always thought to be a causal link. Well, gosh, if somebody's lonely, maybe they're stressed and then they might have high blood pressure and that could predispose to stroke. Well, this is saying we're going to control. That's the opposite of what you said. If they're lonely, they have high blood pressure and they're stressed. Well, for all of that. And now what we're going to really look for is does loneliness actually cause inflammation

in the body? Inflammation? Wow. Inflammation. And does that, is that what we think might be causing this increase versus stroke. So there's a direct link. That's what we're saying here between loneliness, chronic loneliness and the incidence of stroke.

So there's a direct causal link. Although I thought that wasn't allowed in science. I liked it. It's not, in fact, it's not, but I like the causal way he said it. Causal, well, let's- A causal link. Now, let's pay attention here because you can diagnose chronic loneliness.

And I wanna make sure that we're not- Can you do it with AI? I hope we're not suffering from it. When you say inflammation, do you mean sort of the causal direction is loneliness causes inflammation or inflammation causes loneliness? The first one, so loneliness. What is causal?

Causal means it's causing it or is it just? I guess so. And it's also chronic. What's chronic? But chronic is a term used in diseases and analysis. So you have chronic loneliness. It's like chronic hangnails or chronic, you know, body odor. I mean, I'm not getting the use. They're mixing up these phrases and terms to get you freaked out.

The first one. So loneliness causes maybe some degree of stress, but that's actually manifesting in the body more than as inflammation. Interesting. Physically. Actually, physically. And that's the hypothesis to explain these findings. That's really interesting. And I guess my next question would be when That's interesting. Let me look at the script. I guess my next question would be roll the prompter Okay, that's really interesting and I guess my next question would be when do you sort of actually decide to diagnose? Loneliness and considerate chronic is so tough because there's actually not formal clinical criteria So it's in some ways similar to how we diagnose depression. Are they disconnected from, is somebody disconnected from their community? Are they not really engaging

with friends or loved ones? Do they never leave their home? There's this gut sense of, okay, this person is lonely versus not, just based on how we diagnose depression, but especially for those that are older. John, I'm concerned about you. If you never leave the house, especially if you're older, this is very concerning. Yeah, I think you should be concerned. You could keel over at any minute. I can keel over like Biden. Last clip.

Ease loneliness linked to any other chronic health conditions. I mean, the Surgeon General saying that it's like smoking 15 cigarettes a day. What? Well, whoa. I'm so lonely. If he smokes 15 cigarettes a day. What? Well, whoa. I'm so lonely. If he smokes 15 cigarettes a day,

to be jacked up, it seems to me. I'm so lonely. To any other chronic health conditions, I mean, the Surgeon General's saying that it's like smoking 15 cigarettes a day. He's right, and that's exactly what we're seeing. He was seeing this concerning trend where there's a direct causal link

between loneliness and heart attacks. Even pneumonia, the one doctor, you're saying, well, gosh, somebody is more predisposed to pneumonia if they're lonely. And so there is that link here that somehow being socially isolated, it shouldn't surprise us, is actually having real physical impacts to the body. Oh my God. I mean, the only thing I can see here is like get people on antidepressants because they're lonely, because that'll make you social. That'll do it. I mean, it's, this is, you know what? The surgeon general should come out and say, watching M5M media is bad for your health.

It's, we are, we are in fact performing a public service here by warning people. Do not listen to this nonsense or only listen to it under strict supervision of your favorite podcasters. Yeah, I'd say that's probably good advice. Seriously. This is, this is really, oh, we do have, I do have this thing on this. I have two, uh, crisis clips. Since we're talking about this sort of thing. Didn't we play these on the last show? Which ones? The vape crisis? We played these

I'm thinking of the elder. I know we haven't played the elder ones. Oh, no, we have not played the elder ones No, this is the elder abuse and I have some thoughts on this because yesterday I was being abused and I'm an elder Was this the the pressure group lady who was abusing you? No, no, I was abusing her. No, I got like six, it always happens on Wednesday. I got like six of these calls. Hi, you're utility, you've been paying too much for your utilities. We'll give you a $50 discount and a 35% reduction?

Did you go like this? Did you go like this? My favorite one is the, my favorite one is the, you pick up, hello, and you hear nothing. And then you hear, hello? It's an AI. It's a, it's a phony balloon. Hello? Oh, I, I'm with such and such, you know, car repairs or something. There's a million possibilities. But it's not even a real person there. I either wait and hit the button.

They've been hanging up on me recently though, because I've been hanging up on them so much. You're on a list. Call this guy and then hang up on him. It's that guy. So this has been going on. but let's play these clips. Attorney General Mary Garland and the Justice Department celebrated Elder Justice today. Garland joined 17.

Hold on a second, show title if I ever heard one. Elder Justice, I mean, Justice for JCD. If we, I mean, this is great. You're a regular George Floyd of the elder. The department celebrated elder justice today. Garland joined 17 agencies at a meeting of the Elder Justice Coordinating Council, or EJCC, to recognize a decade of federal progress in combating elder abuse. Every year, millions of older adults experience some form of elder abuse, neglect, financial

exploitation or fraud. We know that the vast majority of elder abuse cases go unreported. Yeah. No, that's a real thing. So they're bringing in, so the thing is focusing on financial... Yeah, fraud. Rob, basically. Yeah, being robbed.

And fraud. Yes. Which is what I'm talking about with these phone calls I've been getting. Yes, because they just want to get your deets and then they steal your money. So let's play the second clip, then I'll expose my complaint. Garland said the DOJ has aggressively targeted perpetrators of elder fraud and abuse while providing victims with the support they need, resulting in hundreds of millions of dollars returned to elderly victims.

The EJCC was established by the 2010 Elder Justice Act to coordinate federal activities related to elder abuse, neglect and exploitation. Leaders from the Department of Health and Human Services, as well as four pioneers of the elder justice movement, also gave remarks at the EJCC meeting. Okay. EJCC is a quite organization. Okay, so we have the Justice Department.

When are they going to stop these calls? Do you remember Elizabeth Warren? It was at least a decade ago talking about, oh, Rachel calls and she always wants you to do this and that. And the other thing she's trying to steal your money. I'm going to put a stop to it. This is when she was running for president. Nothing has changed. I get so many calls, which I hang up on. And I get a funny thing on the line. I say, Mimi says she gets this too, and people might notice it. But on the digital line that I have for my landline,

they first hear some sort of a pitch, which is a recording, and they say, oh, please hang on the line. We keep hanging on. And then you hear this sound. It goes bloop. And it's a little sound before they come on, before a real person comes on the line in India or who knows where, China. I have no idea where these people are. I think they all have Indian accents. So I think most of this action is in India.

But as you hear just before, as soon as I hear that, you just hang up, which I think is why they're hanging up on me now. But why can't they, this is all through the public networks. Why do they not do a better job of tracking these people down? I don't care where they are. They talk and bitch and moan and have elder justice. Why don't they put a stop to this? This is the Justice Department garlin talking.

They haven't done jack about this. John C. Dvorak's Pet Peeve of the Day. Oh, wow. They haven't done Jack. They have not done Jack. They've done nothing, not even Jack. No. Not even Jack.

No, no, it is a problem. Lots of old elders are being screwed out of lots of money. Not only old, but young. Yeah, all kinds of people. Your kids are getting screwed too, don't kid. You know, it's not just a bunch of old ladies that are falling for this bull crap true. That's true Now instead instead let's get rid of Alex Jones. He's the problem

That's what we got to do We want to thank the rest of our producers until down to $50 who supported us today for episode 1672. We don't read anything under $50 for reasons of anonymity, but we do want to acknowledge those who are on sustaining donations, which you make yourself. You can set up yourself, just do something on the Never Never, on the layaway program, anything you want, and keep track of it. Because when you reach the knighthood, let us know. You get the fancy ring.

We don't have any knights today. No, and we didn't have any last show either. By the way. We're experiencing a knight shortage. I have a question. So one of Trump's, he announced this in, uh, now I'm going to go back on, uh, on something I've been saying for years and years and years about the value for value model, which is, you know, we're not working for tips here.

This is value. We give you value and we expect some value. We actually started by, oh, just hit the tip jar. Well, the show would have been done within six months if we did that. No, we didn't. We avoided it. We avoided it.

But now with Trump saying he will do away with taxes on tips, hmm. I don't think so. Let's go back. I'll go back in history since you brought this up. You're always trying to avoid taxes. The original thinking was, and I can't quite quote you, but I can come pretty close from, let's say, 60, 15 years ago.

You said, well, since this is like we're getting donations, donations aren't taxable, are they? Did I say that really? Yes, you did. Well, I was inexperienced and young. And I said, no, we're not doing that. What did I know? This is a 100% tax, this is a tax. We get taxed, we get taxed for our money.

We're not non-profit, we're nothing, nothing like that. This is seen as regular income. And so this tip idea is just an extension of your old idea. I'm so sorry that I brought it up. I was just trying to help us. You're getting robbed, man. You're getting robbed. Elder abuse. You need to keep hanging on. We are getting robbed, but it's the price you have to pay to be a podcaster. That's right. That's right. It's a grind. It's very hard. John. It's one of the hardest businesses to be in. That's not a joke. We just make it look easy.

Thank you. Who can we thank? We can start with Sir Ever of The Watt. Okay. He's in Linwood, Michigan, and he came in with 123.45, 12345, one of our favorite donations. Yes, it is. If everybody gave us that we'd be on easy street. Woo! And so with the government they could buy a new jet. Sir PJ of Durden comes up next and he's in Holland in the city of Katwyk.

Kotwijk. And he says, he actually wrote a note that I had to read some of. He said, this is actually an attempt to get through Adam's obvious inbox apocalypse so we can finally plan the Des Degen podcast interview. He promised. Yes, Sir PJ. I have you and it's happening. We already discussed the date, I think. I think it was

Sir PJ. Yes, it's happening, Sir PJ. The podcast, Days of Dacha, these days. Dr. Richard R. Pichard But if he wants to send us 123.45 like he just did, again to re-remind us that you need to do his podcast, we're not going to complain. Dr. John Gerstle No, not at all. Dr. Richard R. Pichard William Hammer in Hagerston, Maryland, $100. Prince by AG in Lancaster, New Hampshire, $88.66. He needs some house selling karma as he escapes New York for New Hampshire. You might want to put that at the end. Good one. Yeah, good idea. Actually, he wants patriot karma. I'll add that in there, Patriot Karma.

Oh yeah, we got the 4th of July coming up, so we should be aware. We're going to work on the 4th of July literally and the 4th of July weekend. You should note that. Yeah. You know why? Because that's what we do. That's what we do. Ryan Bernish in Meaban, North Carolina, 8438.

It's for his smoking hot wife, Jackie, and they want baby karma. We got that too. Yes, we do. Yeah, baby karma. At the end, I'll put it at the end. Night Light Snacks. Yes, Night Light Snacks in Linbrook. What is this product? 8438, I have no idea. you might want to look it up.

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Kaufman in Scottsdale, Arizona. 7575. Peter Campbell in Manchester, Vernaut, Vermont. 6633. Check that. Do you use the Alzheimer's check on that? There you go. AI, it'll tell me. Brett Peterson, probably Pedersen, P-E-D-E-R-S-O-N or Peterson. In Wyckoff, Minnesota, I hope he's not flooded. This is a double switcheroofer fig head from Monger. And he's a deduction. You've been deduced.

Mark Tharnish in Elgin, Nebraska, sorry, 60. Todd Hendrickson in Woodstock, Illinois, 55. Adrian Sales, I'm guessing, Salies in Adelaide, South Australia. Salies, Salies, Salies night, Salies. Salies, a surprise, a surprise night of astonishment in Yukon, Oklahoma, 54.44. Devin O'Connell in Boylston, Massachusetts, 53.41, and he says it's a baby seal donation. We promised the club a baby seal. Yeah, we didn't.

We didn't have to. We didn't have to. Thanks to Onimus. Onimus, yep. Kevin Layman in Rochester, Washington, 5271, Baron Anonymous Cop. Actually, Jay got that in there. Wow, I was going to say, good work, Jay.

Yeah, she says to me she's doing the... A scam. Yeah, she's doing one. Is this guy, and she names him, you know, I said, oh, he's been named before, it's not a big deal. Is that the guy? Is that the guy? I said, yeah, Baron Anonymous Cop in Redwood City, 5150.

I sent him a note he never answered back. Stephen Graovach in Mount Pritchard, New South Wales, 51. A lot of Australia. Ever since we said Australia is the testing ground. Yes, this is interesting. You've noticed this. Yes, ever since we said Australia is the testing ground. And since we play Australian clips, more Australian clips. You know what? We play Africa clips. Do any Africans donate? No. We have one guy. Yeah, one guy. But we play Australia clips. Boom, everyone's donating.

I love it. I also think it has to do with my calling their prime minister Elmer Fudd. I think that helps. Yeah. Nicholas Clark in Port Angeles, Washington. Hey, 50 been recalled. Dr. Justin Marchegiani You know, I had a can, just out of deference. I didn't die. Dr. Michael Seger No, it's just a recall from paperwork.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani Oh, so there's not actually going to die from it? Because it was upon your recommendation, you said, because we saw this, and you said, no, this is sketchy. It is. And I went, okay, and down to one of those snap chills. Yeah. So it's paperwork, because someone didn't do the paperwork properly. Is that what it is? Yeah, that's what it sounds like. But you know, the thing is, I use ground beans. I make my own damn coffee. You're like canned coffee guy. Well, I like that Snapchill stuff. It's good. And now with botulism. He says he's, Nicholas Clark says he's good friends and a co-worker of John's UPS driver

in Port Angeles. So John, next time you see Brock telling you glad he's telling the world about the No Agenda podcast because he's saving lives. Oh, that's nice. How about you get that, how about that belt thing one of our producers made? That- The what, I'm sorry. The belt shelf? You should give one to him.

He's a UPS. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, give him a belt shelf. Brian Hummel in Wimberly, Texas. 50, oh, we're now at the 50s already. So let's just rattle these off, name and location, starting with Brett, or I'm sorry, Brian, and then Brett Denton in Boise, Samuel

Canarday in North Riverside, Illinois, Robert Fleury in Birmingham, Amy Grohl in Burien, Washington. You've all been there if you've been to this airport. Fall Line Farm in Columbus, Georgia. Person of Merit Comics in Columbus, Ohio. Nice. These plugs are killing me. They're great. Brian Emenheiser in Lancaster, California. Jack Schofield in Yankee Town, Florida.

Michael Elmore in Gastonia, North Carolina. John Taylor in Florissant, Colorado, Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon, Richard Gardner, who I think is in New York, and Isaiah Cicciarelli in Thane, Wyoming, and last on the list is our Baron in Beaverton, Oregon, Alan Bean. Oh, good to hear Oregon, Alan Bean. The voice of Oakland. Oh, good to hear from Sir Alan Bean, very nice. Yeah, he sends a check every,

he's been sending a check since the very early days. Early days of the show. With the note, I will reiterate the note. It said, I'm gonna send you a $50 check every month as long as the podcast continues to be good. I guess we're hanging in. We're hanging in. And just sent a check, $50 a month

for every month since then. 16 years, maybe, yeah, 16 years probably. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, be careful. He should be careful. He's probably better, he's probably higher, much higher than a baron if you do the math. Yeah, well, he should let us know.

And he should be on the lookout for elder abuse. His rampant, his rampant, Sir Alan B. Thank you to these producers and everyone who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity. Again, thank you for those who are on the sustaining donations and thanks to our executive and associate executive producers. We appreciate you very much.

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The man we are short on birthdays weird no one making babies around nine months before this Michael wishes his sister Darla a happy belated birthday and turning 48 on the 29th the one only and only Sir Dirty Jersey Whore. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. And once again, no nights, no title changes, no dames. So we go straight to the meetups. Meetup schedule today and by the way, you know, agenda meetup, you have to witness at least one of these in your lifetime. I guarantee you, you'll keep going back.

You will love doing it. There is one tomorrow, the Montrose ball breaker meetup four o'clock at slick Willie's family pool hall. That's in Houston, Texas. The Oregon Local 33 on Saturday, November 4th. Oh, this will be at the home of Lady Butters and Sir Knives. That's going to be a fun one. So RSVP to them directly. That's in Rhode Island. The Oregon Local 33 on Saturday. They meet at 330 Pacific Willamette Park, West Lynn, Oregon. Notice I pronounced it right, Willamette.

The friends of the frantically flummoxed and fantabulous folks. A birthday celebration. Lee Harvey's in Dallas, Texas. And say happy birthday to Sir Dirty Jersey Hoarder who'll be celebrating that day, 3.30 Central Time. The Flight of the No Agendas, number 53. That can only be Leo Bravo, this time at the Boomtown Brewery in Los Angeles Arts District, California.

Watch out for the homeless. And the Potfathers Day Meetup on Saturday at the Dublin Pub in Dayton, Ohio. Finally on Sunday our next showday Longview's lively, laugh-loaded midsummer meetup, the Hangover Special 430 at Rotolo's Pizzeria in Longview, Texas. And that's also the Dirty Jersey whore. Man, he just can't get enough of these meetups can he? Coming up in July on the 5th Fremantle Western Australia send us a meetup report. Amsterdam North Holland on the 6th. Raleigh North Carolina on the 11th.

Bikini Texas on the 13th. Kernersville North Carolina. Garden City Idaho. Fort Wayne Indiana. Rabbit Hash Kentucky on the 14th. Keene New Hampshire on the 20th. Lansing Michigan. Santa Rosa California California, San Diego, California. Palm Beach Gardens, Florida on the 21st, Wiesbaden, Germany. Hello, Deutschland, here's the Hoff. That'll be on the 27th. Ironton, Minnesota. Trinidad and Tobago on the 28th.

We really need meetups for reports from these. I really want to hear you guys talking. And another Amsterdam, the Netherlands on the 28th. We're going into August, Keyport, New Jersey on the 11th, and the Get John Out of the House Meetup because he could become depressed, he could have a heart attack. August 17th, Albany, California.

Myocarditis. That's your No Agenda Meetups. The schedule can be found at noagendameetups.com. You will meet people from all over the world, all walks of life. There's never a fight. It's always a party. You will walk away with phone numbers and friends for life, I guarantee it. NoagendaMeetups.com. If you can't find one, start one yourself. It's like a party. It's always like a party. We're almost done with Cheers.

We're a season 10 episode 21. I keep remembering that because of the the meetup jingle. That show was that had last that staying power. That was a pretty good show. You know the first year it was almost canceled. I can see why the first season was not great. The jokes were meh. I think when they really gave Norm a lot more dialogue, it became better for some reason. But I did not know that. Well, they had to fight to keep it on the air and they did and then it became a huge long-term success

making the network tons of money, which is typical. Yeah, typical. I have a whole bunch of ISO, so I'm just playing you tell me if you like anything, okay? And I can tell you this, you're gonna win because I don't have one ISO. No. No, okay. Bro, we got the facts, we got the facts, we got the facts.

I like that. Okay. When all else fails, ham radio. No. Yeah, no, 100%. That's cute. The longer I talk, it's going to get dumber. Okay.

Do you like any of these? Yeah, I liked the 100% one. Yeah. And the first or second one you played. What was the first or second one I liked? The second one was,. The second one was... Oh, the facts, this one? We got the facts, we got the facts, we got the facts. Yeah, I liked that one and the 100%, I liked those too.

I think the 100% has to win because it's 100%, man, it's 100%, you know, it's 100%, 100% we win. Hey, what? Whoa, this is weird, what's happening here? Now your machine's blowing up. Yeah, it seems to be. Homeless again. It's you. No, this is not good.

Hold on, what happened here? This is very strange. I've never had this happen. It's always something. Yeah, there we go. It's not good news, it's good advice. John C's tip of the day. Hey everybody,'s good advice. John C's tip of the day. Hey everybody, John C. Dvorak's tip of the day.

I also have, I wanted to not do a tip of the day, but do a Dutchism of the day. So you can do your tip first if you want. I actually have two tips. Oh. One's, one's, I'm going to do this, this is going to be a regular feature. I'm going to do a product tip every show. Okay. As long as it's not about that drive fixer, which blew up my drive, because I do blame

you for that, obviously. Of course you would. Well, first of all, if it's just a bonus tip Mimi sent in, she says she opened an Amazon box and then she looked into this problem online. She opened an Amazon box and a baby cockroach was inside which she quickly killed. But she says she recommends opening Amazon boxes outside because of this, I, a couple of the warehouses are cockroach infested. Nasty. Yeah.

That's a good tip. That's a very good. It's a very handy tip. Now the other tip is a product tip, which is because Jay's been using this product to do this scanning of the checks and the scanning of the notes and the rest of it, it's a killer app. It works on phones, iOS, and it also works on the Android phones.

It's called Cam, people just look it up, Cam Scanner. Now, when I was a kid- I've used the Cam Scanner. Cam Scanner's a terrific product. And I remember when I was a kid, and I bought a copy stand and you screw a camera on to it and you had to put the lights up there and you take a picture of some document or something you want to scan. And then now scanners, regular bed scanners came out. But this, it does the adjusting, it does the focusing, it takes care of all this. It is a fabulous product. And she says she's been using it since 2017 and it works like a champ. And of course, all of her contact details have

been shared all over China with this free app. This is a free app. Well, you can pay for it too, but it's yes, she used the free version. Of course. I've used Cam Scanner. It's good. I wanted to, it's a tip because you can use these in regular parlance. I first wanted to circle back to the Koholus door to Kerek. The bullet has been shot through the church. Remember that one? That Dutchism? Yes. We were trying to deconstruct it and neither one of us could come up with anything. Although I had a theory about Lutheranism, but this... Well, so this is used as... Uh-oh, you know, it's kicking off, is kind of the way it's used.

It's kicking off now, and the bullet in question was shot by the Spaniards. It was a cannonball shot by the Spaniards in 1573 during the siege of Harlem and they shot it right through the scent Bavokerk and you can still see the hole that it made. They kept it intact? Well, I think they closed the hole up. They have a big arrow like the hole was here. The hole was here. This is where the hole was.

1573. These things have staying power. Now the one that was sent to me today, I cannot believe we have not brought this up on the show. You can use this one when something bad has just happened. And the phrase is, stront an de knicker. Which means? Po poop on the marble. Coop?

No, poop, poop on the marble. Oh, poop? Poop on the marble. Oh, this is a guy San Francisco saying. It is? No, but there's just plenty of poop on marble there. Yes, and this comes from the 1700s when kids were playing marbles,

and often because it was like San Francisco. It was about marbles, not marble. No, marbles, poop on the marble. So they were playing marbles and it was like San Francisco back in the Netherlands in the 1700s. And sometimes they would roll the marble and it would roll through the poop. And that's when it meant, Oh, there's poop on the marble. Something's about to happen. So you can use this. It's stront aan de knikker.

Try it with me, John. Stront aan de knikker. Stront aan de knikker. The world's gone mad, but don't you worry. It's time for a tip of the day with Adam Curry. Oh brother. Okay. Hey, we will be using...

Hey, you Aussie, send me a couple of phrases that you got down under. You will be using this. You will be using Strontandeknicker. I guarantee you. I guarantee you. I think. We're going to end it for today, but we look forward to seeing you back here on Thursday as we move towards the Fourth of July.

Sunday, I mean. Not Sunday. Thursday, Sunday. I don't know. Sunday. I got bone graft going on. I'm amazed I'm still sitting. You sound fine.

Yeah, no, I sure I feel great. I'll bet. We got Joe Biden's brain coming up, Brian Longenecker with a little bit of De Niro. We got Dee's last, Professor Jay Jones. And up next on trollroom.io, the No Agenda stream in your Modern Podcast app, we have beer, bourbon, and balderdash, sir, west of the balderdash. So enjoy that. And thank you all for tuning in.

Thank you for supporting the show. Thank you for being here, trolls. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. DeVore. Remember us at NoAgendaDonations.com.

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