No Agenda - 1673 - "Mummy and the Dummy"

Episode Date: June 30, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All signs pointed to Jacked Up Joe. We're here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where everybody wants Kamala Harris for president. I'm John C. DeBorek. It's crackpot and buzzkill. In the morning. That's funny, that was gonna be my complete deconstruction as well, go Kamala, woo! I wish that happened.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I received a very rare text from John Thursday night. He says, hey, got any Palestine news? Very funny. Now before we begin our deconstruction, because everyone seems to think we're gonna do this. Oh, let me tell you. Walking into church this morning, hey, I can't wait to hear what you guys have to say.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Oh, everyone's like half the church, like what are you, what's it gonna have? Will you go, okay. Well, at least you got a bunch of customers there. That's great. Oh, wait, hey, why do you think I go? Customers, baby. It's all customers.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Yes, I think we should talk about a few things. I do have a couple of super clips I wanna start with, which is the before commentary. I have a super clip as well. How about that? I have a before super clip. I actually have two befores and one after. OK.
Starting point is 00:01:31 And why are they not marked as super clips? These are on their Deb for debate. So I would like to start with this one. Deb, CBS before. CBS before. OK, here we go. We are just hours away from this year's first presidential debate in Atlanta. And while President Biden and former President Donald Trump have done this before
Starting point is 00:01:52 back in 2020, as you all know, so much has changed since then. And right now the race could not be tighter. Minnesota's Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar joins us from Atlanta ahead of tonight's debate. Senator Klobuchar, welcome. I want to dive right into what's leading on many people's minds, which recent polling suggests is this concern about President Biden's age. You're speaking to a reporter who he called a junkie some time ago, because I inquired about cognitive tests. How significant is it tonight that Mr. Biden shows he's fit for the title of commander-in-chief?
Starting point is 00:02:27 Oh, President Biden is fit to be commander-in-chief. Every time there has been a big moment where the Trump people are predicting some fiasco, every time President Biden rises to the occasion, look at it, the State of the Union this year, last year, he was fantastic, Normandy, he is the commander. Look at it. The state of the union this year, last year, he was fantastic. Normandy, he is the commander in chief. And, you know, they can poke at his age all they want. Trump is nearly the same age. And I take 81 over 91 any day. 91 felony indictments. Not really a super clip.
Starting point is 00:03:03 No, that's not the super clip. The super clip is this one. This is Deb MSNBC, which is actually MSNBC, CNN, and a few others before, and this is a clip. Now is it good? Before? I'm sorry. Yeah, before. Before, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Okay, here we go. Advantage? Joe Biden. Well, then you better vote for Joe Biden. It's that simple. This version of Biden intellectually, analytically is the best Biden ever. On the one hand, I think that they should debate that Biden will wipe the floor for
Starting point is 00:03:36 me, or Biden should just challenge him to pushups. Donald Trump better be careful because in 2020, when they had their little debate. He is visibly in better physical shape than Donald Trump. Biden's out riding a bike, swimming in the ocean. He's, you know, 80 year olds, you know, can do all those things. Joe Biden is in far better shape physically. Joe Biden is physically active. He's on a bike.
Starting point is 00:04:03 He's literally. He's off a bike. He's literally. He's on a bike, he's off a bike. The one question, is he old enough? Is he strong enough? He was on fire. He's fiery Joe. I'm excited for the American people to get to see President Biden on the campaign trail.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Get to see what I get to see behind the scenes all the time about his energy. One of the themes this election cycle is that Joe Biden is too old to lead. And so everyone is seizing upon this. And it is a classic disinformation tactic. Biden swept the floor with that's right. What a rug pull.
Starting point is 00:04:35 All right. I presume the MSNBC after is the next clip. Yeah, the same, basically the same people in that last clip after the debate. Now is a good time in June, thank God, in June and not October, in June. This is the last chance for Democrats to decide whether this man we've known and loved for a very long time is up to the task. Blame it on a cold, blame it on his stuttering, blame it on over preparation, whatever, but he did lose.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Maybe he needs to go, maybe he needs to be honest with it. It was stunningly worse than I expected the performance. I think within the first 90 seconds, it was kind of baked in. Kind of pains me to say this today, but I think President Biden needs to step down. It just pains me, but I don't believe he's the right man right now. And I don't know what you do to turn that around. Biden's answers were in a lot of cases, not coherent. He did nothing to disabuse, I think, the country of the notion that he is very old and was
Starting point is 00:05:42 lost frequently. His biggest issue that he had to prove to the American people was that he had the energy, had the stamina, and he didn't do that. It's kind of a Def Con one moment. That was painful. I love Joe Biden. I worked for Joe Biden. He didn't do well at all. He did not do well at all. The only job that Joe Biden had last night was to reassure America that he was not too old to do the job.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And he failed. I was disappointed to devastated by Joe Biden's performance last night. I don't believe he's our best choice at this point. Before we continue, and I'd like for us to talk a little bit, I would like to play a public service announcement. This is a public service announcement from then Attorney General of the great state of Delaware, Bo Biden. Hi, my name is Bo Biden, Attorney General of the state of Delaware.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Here to talk to you about something that's very important to me and to my office, senior abuse, which falls into one of three categories, abuse, neglect, or financial exploitation. For every one of these types of crimes that's reported to our office, five go unreported. But two million senior Americans are affected every year. And 80%, 80% of these crimes are committed by family members against their so-called loved one. We need your help. Seniors need your help. So if you suspect that anyone is affected by any of these crimes, please contact our Elder Abuse Hotline. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I think right after the debate we got an excellent example of elder abuse by a family member. Joe, you did such a great job. You answered every question. You knew all the facts. I mean, come on. Are we stupid? Are we stupid? Joe, you answered every question. Good job.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Good job, Joe. Okay. So I think we could have probably expected this because the setup for this obvious operation was Jérine Caboul Jean-Pierre with the cheap fakes. That was the setup, not for us, but for the gaslit public. For the gaslit public, like, oh, see, it's just the Republicans. They're deceptively editing. It's all, no, it's not true.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Because I remember saying, wow, that's a really good one. Cheap fakes. That's not something Jareen came up with. That came from someone who was smart. And yes. Yeah, because you can't say deep fake, because that's very specific. No.
Starting point is 00:08:26 But we all know what that means. Yes. So you change the terminology to cheapfake which rhymes with deep. Yep. And makes you think deep. Yep. But it doesn't really mean anything.
Starting point is 00:08:38 There's no real definition for this. Now the thing that we can't portray because it wasn't audio is what you saw on the screen. I'm sure you saw it too right after the debate when I was watching CNN, MSNBC. By the way, CNN is the only state only network that showed what you're going to talk about. No, MSNBC did the same thing. They kept... Well, it wasn't on CBS.
Starting point is 00:09:03 No, no, I'm saying... It wasn't on ABC or NBC. No. It was on... Now, remember that they had... CNN had, I think, 15 people. MSNBC had about eight or nine. And the lower third kept coming up. Democrat insider, Joe has to go.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Dem sources say, this is horrendous. Joe has got to resign. I mean, one after the other. And then, because of course these, I don't think that these talking heads were in on it, but they were getting the calls. Like, oh, I thought you were going to talk about him being escorted off the stage. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You saw that, right?
Starting point is 00:09:41 Yeah. Where Jill literally had to hold, had to support him getting down each step. One step. No, the lower third. Now, you and I know enough about television. It's not like the Chiron editor sits there and says, oh, I know what I'll put in there. This would be cool. Let me put this in.
Starting point is 00:09:57 No. And there were no names. There were no names. It was just Dem sources, donors, insiders, Washington people with knowledge, people familiar with the matter. None of those were on the screen. No, none of those came on to say anything. It was all lower third and it was just one after the other, after the other. And then of course, the New York Times came out with the editorial board literally saying to serve his country, President Biden should leave the race. So this was a complete setup and all of these talking heads,
Starting point is 00:10:29 they were getting the calls. That's all they could talk about. Well, I'm getting calls from all over the place. I'm getting, I'm getting called. And they would not name names. No, I'm getting a call from the Obama world people, whatever that means. I found it interesting. The, uh, and I'm going to stay with your thesis or cause I kind of think there's something going on too. The, uh, is that, for example, on MSNBC, you,
Starting point is 00:10:52 they had a just a table full of people and it's like eight or nine people and they, uh, somehow all of them were getting calls. Well, if you work in the industry, I don't care who you are, what you're, you're not getting calls. Well, if you work in the industry, I don't care who you are or what you're, you're not getting calls, just random calls constantly from people when you're, when you actually have a job to do, you get, you have to prepare for this, for the setup that's going on, for the discussions. You're not taking a bunch of calls if you were even getting them.
Starting point is 00:11:20 There was something very fishy about, oh yeah, I got called by 10 different people. I got called, I got called, 10 different people. I got called. I got called. My phone was ringing off the hook. Well, let me put it this way. I believe these people will text, call, DMs, whatever. That's kind of irrelevant how it came in. These are the people they talk to all the time. These are the people that tell them what to say. That's why they had no other thing to say is because they have no brain cells. They just say whatever their sources, their insiders, the donors, whatever they tell these people on those panels.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Now they were just saying, oh, he's got to go. It's done. No, it was a nice little play. By the way, coincidentally, June 28th, 1914 is when Archduke Ferdinand was assassinated. Seems to be a political trend every 110 years, a cycle, John, a cycle, June 28th. So the question is why... John Ligato By the way, after the fact, they closed ranks. What do you mean? The Republicans, the Democrats closed ranks. Biden's not gonna go.
Starting point is 00:12:30 He showed his true spirits the next day in North Carolina. Oh yes, of course, of course. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they had one of the guys that was on Fox, this guy used to be an ex-Congressman, he's on one of the weekend shows. He says that there's already too many states because the
Starting point is 00:12:50 Presidential elections actually run by the states because they're setting it up for the Electoral College He says that there's clothes you can't change the name of the candidate and about including Nevada and A good third of the states he says there's no way you can get Biden out of there. Correct, correct. Unless he dies. Well, there's a couple of options here. As I understand as well, because of the delegates,
Starting point is 00:13:14 you can't pull them out. They have to go through the convention process. The only thing that would potentially work is if, well, there's two ways. If Biden steps down after he is nominated as the candidate, three, if he dies suddenly, or there's also 25th Amendment possibility. Newsweek is already kind of talking about that, but I don't know if that's really going to happen. But that's never going to happen. But what is, what I think we need to be on watch for a number of reasons.
Starting point is 00:13:48 One, while we're all distracted here, what else is going on? Cause I want all the NOAA gender producers to be watchmen and watchwomen. Keep your eyes open because something, something else is happening while we're not seeing it. And I think there's another shoe to drop. We just haven't seen the second piece of this Of this op and I kind of predict the next talking point might be nuclear codes National security, you know that should be that should trump to that. Well, that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:14:20 Then they haven't even done that with him yet Well, that's what I'm saying. They haven't even done that with him yet. The timing of this was obvious. It was way early, earlier than any debate has ever taken place. So it was planned, but we just don't know why. I'm a little afraid that if the war machine is behind this op, very possible.
Starting point is 00:14:41 They're the guys with the money, that they want an event. Well, we can't have Joe in there. You can't have his hand on the button. There's all kinds of possibilities there. You can speculate all you want, but it's going to be a difficult thing to get. Whoever set this up, let's go right back to the beginning. Who decided not to jack up Joe? Well, hold on. You didn't let me finish. My original thesis has been they want Trump in.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Trump is very pro-military. No, that's been the thesis of the show for a while. Yeah. Now, who didn't jack up Joe? Well, I think right now the person to watch is Jill. And she's the handler, that's clear. If she wasn't in on it, then she should be livid. From what I understand, the Biden family
Starting point is 00:15:37 is now at Camp David. They're all discussing what Joe should do. And according to NBC, a person familiar with the dynamics said, Biden will ultimately listen to only one advisor, and that is Jill. Now, why are they saying that? They're saying that because there's reasons.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Is it also possible in your mind that Biden, I mean, you're president, you still have power, that Biden is just like, no, no, I'm not going, or that Jill said, Joe, tell them you're not going. Maybe she's the power hungry one. She sure looks it. Maybe? Really? You think she's saying maybe? She sure looks it. Oh my God. She is it.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Well, then, you know, so it's also possible that they just couldn't get him to step down and they said, all right, you know what, we'll do it this way. Well, if you recall in 2020 or 2019, probably, Biden says he was only running for president for one term and then he's going to pass it on. He said that. I don't know if he have a clip, but we all, everybody remembers him doing, I'm only going to run for one term.
Starting point is 00:16:52 And that's all I wanted just to get rid of Trump and we'll put some, we'll get some other new talent in there. And then all of a sudden out of the blue after flying around in the big jet and having nothing but fun and free meals with, especially Jill having fun in the big jet and being flown by herself in the big jet and having nothing but fun and free meals with, especially Jill having fun in the big jet and being flown by herself in the big jet and the small jet. Uh, she, why are we quitting this job? We can run again. I don't understand why this one, that one term thing,
Starting point is 00:17:20 you're doing a good job. I'd like this jet. This jet is great. Yeah, that's all very possible. Now there's a kind of far out there theory, which in a way, through a funny way, although I don't like the source that you sent me about Putin. And I don't have confirmation yet because I can't find it anywhere. Oh, the Putin thing. Yeah. Apparently. Oh, I just sent that to you because it was fun. If true, you and Putin are thinking on the same exact same way.
Starting point is 00:17:55 So the Putin theory, Putin says, be careful, the Americans are setting up a bird flu, what do you call it, bio weapon attack. setting up a bird flu, what do you call it? Bio-weapon attack. Now, should that be true? And there's ample evidence for it, but quite a stretch. The problem with Biden is not that he's, that he is clearly mentally deficient,
Starting point is 00:18:24 it's the problem is that, I mean, he's losing by too big a margin. So just bear with me. If you were going to rig the election, which seems completely possible, then all you really need is someone who could be plausible enough to win, then all you really need is someone who could be plausible enough to win.
Starting point is 00:18:47 So that when you fix the results, you say, well, I mean, it was Gavin Newsom, you know, or it was a fill in the blank. Camilla can't, well, even Camilla, even Camilla would work. So they re they really just need a candidate who could give plausibility to ballot counting results. Now you could do that with another plandemic, possibly, although I don't know. You could do it with the cyber attack. Oh, the infrastructure is broken.
Starting point is 00:19:15 We have to go to paper ballots. But I don't think that they haven't shown their hand to us yet. It's not there. Well, then again, we have our self-contradictory belief that Trump is the target to become the next president. That's the one that seems most logical. And I think that Trump is just saying, I won, I won, I won. I mean, it's so obvious that this was an opt to take it down.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Why isn't he saying the obvious? This troubles me. Why isn't he saying, wow, the Democrats really don't want Joe to win, do they? Everybody can see that. Why isn't he saying it? There's been a lot of speculation, especially from the right wingers on the stuff that Trump's not saying. If everything we say and suspect is true, he has been told not to say these things.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I'm so afraid that that's true. I mean, it just... This format, the way CNN set it up, they didn't do any of the fact checking, which was just unbelievable. By the way, did you see Aaron Burnett? I did. Oh, oh, oh, oh, Zampik.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Oh, I didn't notice that. Oh my goodness. She looks, she's back to her fighting weight when she was on the CNBC. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Good. Here she is. Here she is.
Starting point is 00:20:38 The candidates' performance and demeanor tonight, notwithstanding, there is the crucial question of the truth of what was actually said on stage. And our fact checker, Daniel Dale, joins us now. So Daniel, what stands out to you? What stood out was the staggering number of false claims from former president Trump. On first count, Aaron, I counted at least 30,
Starting point is 00:21:00 30 false claims. 30. Now, president Biden also made false claims, at least nine false or misleading statements on first count. I'll give you some of them. He said, he's the only president in a while who didn't have any troops dying anywhere in the world.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Troops have, of course, died on his watch. He said he's put in a $15 per shot cap on insulin in Medicare, it's a $35 a month cap. He said it's a $200 cap on overall drug spending in Medicare, it's $2,000 a year. He said the border now has fewer crossings than when Trump was in office. That's generally not true. He said, or at least strongly suggested, unemployment was at 15 percent when he took office.
Starting point is 00:21:32 It was actually 6.4. He said Trump wants to get rid of Social Security. Trump doesn't. He said billionaires pay 8.2 percent in taxes. It's much higher. He said Trump told Americans to inject bleach amid COVID. We know Trump made foolish comments about scientists studying disinfectant injection, but didn't frame it as advice to people. And Biden said the border patrol endorsed him. No, its union supported
Starting point is 00:21:52 the border bill he'd supported, never endorsed him himself. In fairness, the president did appear to clarify that one. So that's the Biden, that what? No, that's not true. He never clarified it. No, but that's the Biden fact check. Much funnier is his Trump fact check. This guy, I got to give him kudos. Who's this guy? This guy is Daniel Dale. Listen to this. Now, the Trump list, it is way, way longer. So deep breath. He said some democratic states allow people to execute babies after birth, an egregious lie that is illegal in every state.
Starting point is 00:22:27 He said everybody, even Democrats, wanted Roe v. Wade overturned. Roe was supported by two thirds of Americans, even more Democrats. He said every legal scholar wanted Roe overturned, abortion returned to the states. Legal scholars have told me directly this is not true. He said the U.S. currently has the biggest budget deficit ever. No, that happened under Trump in 2020. He said the U.S. currently has a record trade deficit with China that also happened under Trump in 2018. He said Biden personally gets a lot of money from China. Zero evidence of this. He said there were no terror attacks during his presidency.
Starting point is 00:22:57 In fact, there were multiple attacks. He said Iran didn't fund Hamas, Hezbollah, other terror groups under his presidency. Iran, in fact, did. He said Biden wants to quadruple people's taxes. That is pure fiction. He said the U.S. has provided way more aid to Ukraine than Europe had. It's actually the opposite. He said the U.S. has provided about 200 billion in Ukraine aid. It's closer to 110 billion. He said 18 or 19 million people have crossed the border under Biden.
Starting point is 00:23:20 That is millions too high. He said many of these migrants are from prisons or mental institutions. His own campaign cannot corroborate this. He said Biden has only created jobs for illegal immigrants. Total nonsense. He said Nancy Pelosi turned down his offer of 10,000 National Guard troops on January 6th. There's no evidence she even got such an offer.
Starting point is 00:23:37 There's tons of evidence. I love this guy. Not Pelosi, who had the power to deploy the DC Guard. He said Pelosi now acknowledges she turned down the troops. Know her office tells me this claim is still a lie. We heard the video. No, not on CNN. He deployed the National Guard to Minneapolis in 2020.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Actually, that was the Democratic governor. He spoke of, quote, ridiculous fraud in the 2020 election. Zero evidence of any widespread fraud. He said NATO was going out of business before he took office. Completely, clearly absurd. He said the US was paying 100% of NATO before he came along. The US made up about 71% of NATO defense spending in the 100. He said he, not Biden, is the one who lowered insulin prices in Medicare.
Starting point is 00:24:14 He did it for some seniors, but Biden did it for far more. He said Biden indicted him. Again, no evidence Biden has had a personal role in any of these four prosecutions. He said Europe takes no U.S. cars. Just not true. He spoke of food prices quadrupling under Biden. That's a wild exaggeration, though they are up. He said Biden made up the idea he called dead service members suckers and losers.
Starting point is 00:24:34 No, the Atlantic magazine reported that. And then former Trump Chief of Staff John Kelly corroborated it. He said Biden called black people, quote, super predators for 10 years. Biden never once deployed that phrase, let alone for 10 years, though he did at least once speak of people quote super predators for 10 years. Biden never once deployed that phrase, let alone for 10 years, that he did at least one speak of quote predators without specifying as about black people. Yeah, okay, stop.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I'll stop there. Yeah, well, it goes on and on. I mean, I just want to stop the super predators for one minute because I happen to have these clips. The person who said super predators was this. Hillary. Hillary. There's about a hundred thousand.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Oops. What is this happening? Oh, that's weird. I always love it when. Biden was all in on that though. Well, I have that. Here's the, why did that fail? Here we go.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called super predators. No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel. This was about Little Yummy, who was in the cover of Time magazine. Bring them to heel was my best part of it. Black kid with a machine gun. This was part of, and this was the signal from Trump to black America. Everyone in America that's black knows about the Biden 1994 crime bill.
Starting point is 00:25:48 There's about a hundred thousand of them who are the predators, a hundred thousand of the kids you read about in the front page of the newspaper every day, unless we do something about that cadre of young people, tens of thousands of them born out of wedlock, without parents, without supervision, without any structure, without any conscience developing. A portion of them will become the predators 15 years from now. And Madam President, we have predators on our streets. They are beyond the pale, many of those people.
Starting point is 00:26:23 We have no choice but to take them out of society. Believe me, Black America knows exactly what Joe Biden did. That was a nice reminder. Well, and the fact check, which I have a couple of these I want to play. The fact check guy, you know, I think it was Scott Adams who had some posts about, you know, there's a difference between actually lying or misstating the truth. And by saying that Biden said super predators instead of just predators, referring to the super predators that Clinton referenced,
Starting point is 00:26:59 is not one of these check mark lies. He lies. No, of course not. And I found it very disgusting that this whole, it was almost like from the beginning, it was, if Trump's going to get back in, they're going to hold him really to heel, let's say, about, you know, because they did, we already witnessed this, the lies about Trump saying lies, you know, the 30,000 lies that were documented. We went through a lot of them on this show back in 2017, 2018, and most of these lies weren't lies. They were like,
Starting point is 00:27:33 misstatements of fact and a misstatement of fact is not a lie. Agreed. This is the talking point though. You know, it's like, uh, Joe had a bad night, but Trump lied. He lied. Well, in fact, let's go to, I'm gonna go back to CBS, cause that's what I watched this thing. And this clip is debate throw to CBS.
Starting point is 00:27:55 So the debate is ending on CNN, and CBS picks up the feed, and you hear this. I'm really struggling to find throw to PBO. It's debate, it's a debate. It says Thor, okay, got it. Thank you, former President Trump, President Biden. Stay with us because we have full analysis of this debate.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Anderson Cooper and Aaron Burnett starts now on CNN. And so the first presidential debate of the 2024 election season is in the books. As you witnessed President Biden opening this debate and continuing with a very shaky voice, a raspy voice that we have learned from advisors close to him that apparently he's had a cold for the past several days. But he also had a number of wandering answers during this debate. He had a number of facts and accomplishments that he wanted to tout it, but I think his voice in sometimes was distracting from that.
Starting point is 00:28:51 President Trump offered repeated- Trump, Trump. Did she say Trump? Yes. They're so confused, they get, Trump. Distracting from that. President Trump offered repeated lies and exaggerations, but then President Biden failed to fact check Trump most of the time.
Starting point is 00:29:08 We've got our entire panel here tonight to discuss what we witnessed. John Dickerson, I'll start with you. For the majority of Americans who don't want this choice, the debate met those expectations. I think you characterized it correctly. What we heard about President Biden is people who know him said, when he was underestimated in the 2020 campaign, people said look to his convention speech and he exceeded expectations. They said look to his State of the Union addresses when he exceeded expectations. On the debate stage, he came in well under expectations both as a matter of performance
Starting point is 00:29:41 and as arguing for why his vision for the future is better. As you mentioned, Donald Trump gave fantastical delusional answers on January 6th on Charlottesville on what he said of the last election. And that matters because he's trying to convince people who saw things with their own eyes that what they saw was not so. That's interesting. I thought the very fine people, which we know is factually just a lie from Biden. It's a lie. Have you heard a lot of people pick that up? I mean, I haven't got, I don't have any clips of people saying, hey, Biden really lied there.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Dickerson just did, and it's been picked up by others in the mainstream, mainstream mostly. And it's like they're denying, in fact, if you, Snopes of all places, Snopes says his bullshit, which is very unusual. And, but Dickerson's, I was stunned by this because this guy I always thought was on top of things, but the fact that he thinks the Charlottesville comments were, were not couched improperly and, and, and it were actually a hoax. And he also says the
Starting point is 00:30:45 same thing about January 6th and this involved Trump's memo to Pelosi to add National Guard troops and then Pelosi commenting in the limo with her daughter for the documentary that she's making. We all saw this where she's lamenting the fact that she could have done these troops, which Trump referenced, and they say that's a lie. And then they use this term, oh, you see it with your own two eyes. Make no mistake. This is terrible. The media people don't really see what we see. I mean, this is a parent from Tucker Carlson who was just now kind of having his awakening.
Starting point is 00:31:22 He's saying, wow, I really didn't realize how bad it was. He was in it himself. So these people, all they're doing, John, is they're having lunches, they're going to parties, they're doing lots of calls. With each other. With each other, doing lots of calls. And here's the one thing I'd really like some analysis on
Starting point is 00:31:40 from one of our producers. Interestingly enough, Sanjay Gupta has a special, which I think aired in May, but they're re-airing it tonight on CNN, Hope for Alzheimer's. I mean, how crazy can you be for CNN to put that on again? Is there a particular chemical or something that you can give to someone with Alzheimer's that will indeed perk them up, make them loosen, coherent for a while, maybe only reading, i.e. from a teleprompter? Is there something that for a limited time works?
Starting point is 00:32:14 No one has really discussed that. Well, we did have one of our producers send in a note about her mom who had Alzheimer's and she said that they gave her something and she and the mom snapped out of it. Yeah, what was that? Claims, that's what I said, you got to find out what it is and I have not heard back. But she says the mom believes she was as lucid as she was when she was in her twenties and everybody was just jacked up about it. But it was something I guess you can't keep giving somebody
Starting point is 00:32:46 or it only works every so often. I don't know. So we have to, there's gotta be somebody out there that knows exactly what this concoction is. It must be Adrenochrome. No, maybe it is. Whatever the case is, they didn't give it to Joe on this go round for whatever reason.
Starting point is 00:33:07 We have our suspicions, but he definitely was not jacked up. Joe, I was disappointed. I kind of at the very beginning, I only have three Biden clips that we can play if you want, when you want. But well, they're all good ones and they're short. I didn't take the whole two minutes, which Biden didn't a lot of times either. Let me play the Deutsche Welle. I was kind of looking what the rest of the world has other elections. We'll talk about that later. Iran has a runoff.
Starting point is 00:33:38 The UK has their election coming up with some shenanigans going on. Deutsche Welle, who of course is a direct extension of our intelligence services, they went out into America, into American cities, and got man on the street, which I haven't seen yet from the cable networks, news networks. Now, these are of course not Trump voters, but here it is. Across the US voters are processing the Biden Trump debate and while the faithful remain loyal to their respective candidates undecided voters right across the country seem largely unimpressed by what they saw and many aren't sure what to think. In downtown New York I thought it was a little funny and a little sad. A lot of ranting. Nothing was being talked about that was important.
Starting point is 00:34:30 With all due respect, it was hard to understand the president. And the other guy was just rambling off. Meanwhile, on the streets of Philadelphia. I expected nonsense from Trump Trump and he always delivered. But Biden, I was a little disappointed because I really wanted him to answer the questions. It's the race to the bottom all over again. Last night was the mummy versus the dummy. The sentiment was echoed in Washington DC.
Starting point is 00:35:00 I think it's a national embarrassment that that is our representation of leadership. I wasn't very impressed with either. On the West Coast, one man articulated the dilemma faced by an entire nation. It sucks because we have two candidates that, you know, a lot of people don't want to vote for either one of them. And if you don't vote for Biden, you're stuck with Trump. And if you vote for Trump, you're going to see people riding around treating the American flag like it's a racist symbol.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I think that might be actually representative of the cities. I mean we know what the heartland thinks. Yeah the cities are gaslit. Yeah all of them. But even so I thought that was pretty probably a pretty good representation. I like it might not be. It might be. It could be. I like the mummy versus the dummy. I kind of like that. Yeah but I don't know who's the mummy who's the dummy. They're both supposed to be either. Does it matter? Does it matter? Does it matter? Keith Olbermann weighed in, our buddy Keith, he took it straight to CNN. The decision to not fact check the fire hose of lies that is Donald Trump, that is the
Starting point is 00:36:19 entirety of his existence and the entirety of his campaign, the decision to not fact check any one of those lies by CNN was one of the most immoral decisions in the history of the free press in this country. Literally, I am suggesting that at some point tonight, CNN should, it will not, go off the air in shame, fire everybody, seal off the buildings, make sure everybody's out, and burn the goddamn place to the ground. The format was really interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:57 And the fact that they decided not, I don't know if that was part of the agreement and the rules, there would be no real time fact checking. That's what everybody wanted. Oh, it means you fact check Trump in real time. It was a very straight up and down format. Very straight up and down. I thought it was dynamite that way. I don't think that the hosts or the moderators are supposed to get people to talk and not
Starting point is 00:37:18 talk. They're not supposed to sit there as fact checkers because they'll be biased. The candidates are supposed to fact checkers, because they'll be biased. Candidates are supposed to fact check each other. Let's go to another more kind of really mainstream report from TMZ, a very popular, a lot of people watch TMZ for their news, see what's up with Taylor Swift and important stuff like that. Look at that picture there with his mouth agape.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I know that his people worked for a week with him. Right, he was out camp David, they were doing this whole prep. They had a mock stage. Right. They had a mock candidate. Did anybody videotape it to say, here's how you should look when Donald Trump is speaking and you shouldn't be looking off into nowhere with your mouth open. With your mouth open, right. Or looking down, there were a lot of times where he was looking down and his mouth was gaped, which really scared me because I thought, did he fall asleep? Is he going to fall over? You're right.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Isn't that just crazy? The visuals make a big difference and it seemed like he had a lot of facts and even though he got a lot of them wrong, maybe too many, but the visual was not something that was clearly was not a priority. And everybody was thinking last night, it wasn't really about the issues, although, you know. They knew where they both stood on the issues, right?
Starting point is 00:38:39 It was just about presentation. And you know, I gotta say, as bad as it was to watch and heartbreaking really to watch, look at Joe Biden leaving the stage with Joe Biden. I mean, that was just stunning to watch this. After everything you'd seen for the 90 minutes of the debate, that was like the affirmation, this slow walk off with the first lady. There was at least one good entertaining deep fake which circulated for a bit. Did you see this one? I don't know what I don't think so. Well the the best part is it was the the it worked because
Starting point is 00:39:20 someone made an a shorter version of it because if if you saw, and I have both clips, if you saw the longer version, then you understood it was a deep fake. But this one was sent to me by multiple people. If they bring out Gavin Newsom or maybe Hillary Clinton or even Big Mike, I mean, even Michelle Obama. I didn't see this. I don't know why I said Big Mike. Back to you, Jake.
Starting point is 00:39:43 So a lot of people said listen to this Now this is the original you this is what people actually think this is real. Some people thought it was real. Absolutely This now the longer version is why you wouldn't think that 33% say he won the debate tonight. I mean guys at this point I don't give a shit if they bring out Gavin Newsom or maybe Hillary Clinton. This is typical, they overdo it. Yeah, the shorter version worked. The shorter version was much better. People only sending me the short version. I always go look for the long version.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Alright, let's see this. Well, if you're going to play Screwy Guys, you have to listen to Chunk. Oh my God, he was great. Chunk was phenomenal. I actually got the whole thing but I have two parts of it, but you only need to play the first one. This is Deb Anel analysis, Chunk.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Chunk, the young Turks. And the whole time the split screen is killing Biden. Because he's got his mouth open, he looks confused, doesn't know where he is. He's lost his train of thought at least twice in disastrous shape.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Those are going to be played a billion times in viral video after viral video. This is an epic disaster. I see people online saying, well, okay, that answer wasn't so bad. No, any particular answer doesn't matter at all.
Starting point is 00:41:06 This thing is over. He looks like he's barely surviving. I don't mean the debate, I mean life. And so there's no person that has a single brain cell left in their head who thinks that Joe Biden is
Starting point is 00:41:21 the best candidate to take on Donald Trump. You would have to be even crazier than Donald Trump to think that. This thing is over, I'll guarantee you this. I would bet any, show me a Democratic politician and
Starting point is 00:41:36 I will bet them any amount of money that Joe Biden is going to lose this election if he's a candidate. It's a guaranteed loss. You're telling me this is the most important election of's a guaranteed loss. You're telling me this is the most important election of our lifetimes. You're telling me that democracy is
Starting point is 00:41:49 on the line, and you're going to put on a guy who can't even talk, who can't even sit there and look normal. This thing is a bloodbath. He's going to get annihilated. That is, okay, now the Democrats have to decide, are they happy to
Starting point is 00:42:05 lose, are they willing to lose? because this is a guaranteed loss. This is so much worse than my worst nightmares of what it could be like in every way. The visual stuff is obvious, staring off, the looking down, it just it looks terrible.
Starting point is 00:42:23 His voice is so utterly weak and feeble. This is that's how every single news network should have covered it. Certainly on the left, that is truthful. I give very truthful. I give points to to chank for that. I really do. I was like, yeah, that's that's how everybody should have reacted. But who controls them that they all went in on this, on this, oh, right straight to the replacement, replace Joe?
Starting point is 00:42:51 I mean, it must be big money because that's all who they listen to. I mean, there's some people saying, well, you know, it's gotta be Obama. I don't think so. I don't think Obama is running anything either. People behind him might be. But this-
Starting point is 00:43:07 Seymour Hersh named some names that he thinks was running in the country. I don't have the names in front of me. I do have a couple more clips along these lines, these analysis clips. I want to play Katie Turd. Yes. I'm sorry, I've got to take up the plosives.
Starting point is 00:43:22 You need a Lawsons stat. Katie Turd is, by the way, they show a lot of these people, they are so sad looking. I mean, Rachel Maddow looks like she's back into her crying phase. She does not look good. She wasn't that way last night. Katie Turd was... Hold on. Rachel last night was completely, had completely restored herself. She was making fun of Trump. She was talking about Trump being fat, liar, orange, makeup.
Starting point is 00:43:50 She completely redeemed herself. Well, good for her. But Katie Tur, she goes on about the lies. This is like a script and it's almost the same talking points everybody has. Here we go. It's the devil plot to saveica from trump and democrats from themselves rick wilson's of donald trump last night lied a whole lot of one point he talked about how
Starting point is 00:44:12 democrats wanna abort babies outside of the world that the babies delivered of the doctor puts it aside and says we'll figure out what to do with this baby later that's called murder that doesn't happen he got what he got away with all of that. He got away with lying and lying and lying and lying. The moderators didn't fact check him. They said they were not going to. Joe Biden didn't fact check him either.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Well, look, Katie, I mean, Joe Biden can have a bad night, but Donald Trump every single day of his life is a fraud, a con man, a pathological liar, a sexual assaulter and a felon. And so when you saw Donald Trump, within the first few minutes of the debate, he realized he wasn't gonna get checked on any of the crazy stories. So as the debate progressed, he got more and more and more and more manic about his lies and more and more like sort of Tommy Flanagan you know that's the ticket yeah the whole thing went it just ramped up because he knew he was getting away with lying on the set but he was able to get away with it and he
Starting point is 00:45:14 was able to pitch himself as something he is not to 49 million Americans who were watching this about the numbers we think that's gonna fall on he was able to say that that January 6 wasn't a big deal, that he offered Nancy Pelosi troops and she said no to it. I mean, he was able to get away with so much last night because there wasn't a fact check, there wasn't effective pushback. Does that affect the election? Now, okay, so this to me is very obvious because she mentions the numbers and I don't know if that was aggregate, all of CNN, or if it was everything all put together, I'm not quite sure. That 49 million is supposed to be aggregate.
Starting point is 00:45:51 OK, that would make more sense. We're going to be inundated with this type of analysis for the next weeks, for sure, maybe months. Because let me finish my thought. The reason is that the cable news networks finally, praise God or in their case, praise Allah. We have ratings. They're going to suck everybody in now. Oh, let's keep talking about this forever. Ad nauseum. The problem I have with it is the gas lighting Well, they do the clips of that of the Virginia governor Yeah, we have talking about pulling the baby out and setting it aside. Yeah, we have those are on the net
Starting point is 00:46:35 Let me see do we you can hear him say it and that's what Trump was referencing Yeah, it is called an infanticide and it is illegal But that's what he discussed and that's what they said, you know and Trump just illegal, but that's what he discussed. And that's what they said, you know, and Trump just extrapolates it. If that's what, you know, he's discussing it as seriously. That's what they want to do. And that's not a lie. And then the January 6th, the level of importance of January
Starting point is 00:46:59 six is not a lie. It's just an opinion. And so you can't take opinions and just call everything a lie. And then you had this Rick Wilson here, the Lincoln Project guy and Katie Turris, just going off gaslighting the public. Well, like they've done anything different? No, but it's just, it's at some point you think that they'd stop.
Starting point is 00:47:22 No. It's not helping them. No, no, no, This is their job now. Their job is, hey, this is great guys. We got ratings. We got people watching us again. We got to keep talking about how that wasn't true and it's a lie and he's horrible. That's their job. That's their only job. I think they were thrown a bit for a loop because they did not know that Joe was not going to be state of the union jacked up Joe that they did none of them knew that It's obvious. Yeah, they were just scrambling and
Starting point is 00:47:54 But you know the more I think about it, man But he well they This really is to get Trump in and Trump is going to build up. If you really follow the logic on they want Trump in, because the economy, something has to happen. It's going to happen. With the next six months, I think it might be obvious. You and Andrew would know better, but it seems like we're on kind of shaky ground here with
Starting point is 00:48:27 this phenomenal stock market. Something is not going to go well. The war machine is also not great. Stirring it up with Iran, that would be great. There's a new guy coming in. Who knows who's behind that guy? They want war. Maybe we can get China to do something with Taiwan. And then Trump will build ships and submarines.
Starting point is 00:48:51 That seems the most logical to me. And by the way, Trump didn't look at all surprised at Joe. He wasn't like, holy moly, this guy's toast. He really only mentioned it once about a third of the way through. Like, I don't think he knew what he said. But even- That was a good line. It was, but I was watching his expressions.
Starting point is 00:49:12 He didn't look like, oh man, this is a shoe in for me. I'm going to slam dunk this. None of that. Everyone was surprised, but Trump, let's put it that way. Would you say that's a fair assessment? I could see that being an assessment. Yeah, but a fair one. He had a quizzical look on his face a lot of the times, but you're right.
Starting point is 00:49:34 He wasn't jumping for joy noticing that Biden was just a complete screw up on the debate. I have another analysis short clip from Cuomo. I dig up all the screwy ones. The quid? The Cuomo kid or the old Andrew? The kid, of course. Oh, the kid. All right, the kid.
Starting point is 00:49:53 This is Deb Anel Koumo. Frankly, former President Trump, who had a great night, even though he lied all the way through, unchecked. But that's the benefit of him having worked the refs. He got what he wanted. They laid back. Wow, Cuomo. That's a News Nation?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Yeah, News Nation. News Nation and scripts, which a lot of people can get on over the air, were all in the bag for Biden. Interesting. And they didn't like what they saw. We're all in the bag for Biden. Interesting. And they didn't like what they saw. I have, okay, screw Eclipse. Except for Fox and One America News, which is, I don't know what the hell's wrong with those guys,
Starting point is 00:50:38 because One America News has been playing for the last, I'd say two or three months, they've been playing news. That's a week old. It's all offset by about a week or two over the air. And it's like, what are you guys up to with this old news? Are you gonna stop doing shows or what's going on? But one American news and Fox are the only ones that actually kind of mocked Biden. Everybody else is more serious about the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:51:06 And that's their job. The lies. The lies. And that's their job. Their job is to mock Biden and the lies is the job of the gaslighters on the other side. The more I think through this, the more it makes sense. Let's have Trump in. Let's just have years of lies and injecting bleach and very fine people.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Let's keep the American public completely distracted and preoccupied and consumed. Let's have half the country salute the flag, the other half say they're racist. This seems more like the agenda than anything else. It's so much more beneficial. Well, it is for the media. For the media, for rich people, for the people who own the country rich. And the shipbuilders. And the shipbuilders, the military industrial complex, rubbing their hands, ah Trump, he's coming in.
Starting point is 00:52:00 It'll be great. Because of course he's going to get everyone in NATO, especially with Mark Rutte, I guess they do call him Teflon Mark, or in Dutch, well, they call him Tefal Mark, I didn't know that, Tefal, Tefal is Teflon in Dutch. You know, everyone will pony up, he'll take all the European money, take all of our tax money, build up,
Starting point is 00:52:24 ships and submarines are expensive. It's much better than individual bullets and bombs. Build something big for the pivot to the South Pacific, Asia Pacific. Here's Kai Risdahl and Kimberly Adams. They're from Marketplace, the NPR show, it's done by American Public Media. They have a podcast together, woo, called Make Me Smart. Well, it does anything but. So for, let's see, when was 2015? Nine years ago. For nine years, never Trumpers and some of the Democratic Party have been saying to Republicans
Starting point is 00:52:58 who support Trump, open your eyes. How do you deny what you see that he is completely unfit? And it's really challenging now for Democrats to say, oh, you didn't see what you saw last night. You know, there's a logical inconsistency that becomes for the Democrats, I think, a problem. I don't know. You know, what I was thinking about last night is for all we know, Biden could have been up the
Starting point is 00:53:28 previous evening working through some sort of top secret classified national security matter, you know, and that could be one of the reasons. Not trying to make excuses or anything like that, but there's so much we don't know about what happens behind the scenes in these situations, but that's part of the reasons, like not trying to make excuses or anything like that, but there's so much we don't know about what happens behind the scenes in these situations. But that's part of the job. Yeah. Yeah. Biden, poor performance because he was up all night working on top secret documents. Please. That's a good one. That's one of your better clips today. I have a kind of a funny clip. Matt Gaetz, everybody, you know, they said, oh, the vice president candidate for Trump's
Starting point is 00:54:08 gonna be at the debate. Well, everybody was at the debate. So Matt Gaetz came on late on the Hannity show. And Matt Gaetz was kind of a dick, but he had a one-liner in here that, and everybody jumped on him. He was with Stephen Miller and Hannity talking about some aspects of the debate and then about Lindsey Graham and Gates just threw this kind of a sucker punch
Starting point is 00:54:36 at, at, at what Graham wasn't there, but it was just this comment that they both jumped on him for because he was going, he was, he was coloring outside the lines with this comment. Oh no. And so they both gave him kind of jocular nudges not to do that again. And I just thought it was hilarious. This is the Deb Annie Matt Gaetz clip.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Lindsey Graham said he doesn't want Donald Trump to debate Biden again because he doesn't want the world to watch that again. That's the first war Lindsey Graham's against. Oh, Matt, you can't help yourself. I know. You can't help himself, right? Okay. Gates, you're right.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Kind of douchey. It's the first war Lindsey Graham's against. This funny. This is against. That's funny. It's interesting. It is funny, but he is a dick. I have a couple of clips that are not long. CNN post debate, just so we can get a little take from everybody. This is right after the debate.
Starting point is 00:55:38 You want to hear those? Got a couple of them. So here's John King. He's kind of the elder statesman. I think he's in his former spook as well. John King. He's kind of the elder statesman. I think he's in his former spook as well. John King. He's the guy who's always going up against the map and showing trends. Yeah, he should be. He has the look. He's got a good spook look on him. Here we go. This was a game-changing debate in the sense that right now as we speak, there is a deep, a wide, and a very aggressive panic
Starting point is 00:56:04 in the Democratic Party. It started minutes into the debate and it continues right now. It involves party strategists, it involves elected officials, it involves fundraisers. And they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they think was dismal, which they think will hurt other people down the party in the ticket. And they're having conversations about what they should do about it. Some of those conversations include,
Starting point is 00:56:25 should we go to the White House and ask the president to step aside? Others are, other of the conversations are about, should prominent Democrats go public with that call? Because they feel this debate was so terrible. They do say, in moments in the debate later, the president got better and got his footing, but then at the end, even his closing statement
Starting point is 00:56:43 was a little halting. The contrast between the two candidates, let me be clear, none of them, but then at the end, even his closing statement was a little halting. The contrast between the two candidates. Let me be clear, none of them, and a lot of Republicans, don't think Donald Trump had a great night. Donald Trump broke the fact check machine more than I can count tonight. That will be on the record as we go forward. He refused to answer some very specific
Starting point is 00:56:57 and direct questions about his conduct, about January 6th and what all. Okay, blah, blah, blah. Van Jo. By the way, Trump did dodge a couple of questions, but he did it well. That's what you do in a all. Yeah, okay. Blah, blah, blah. Van Joe. By the way, Trump did dodge a couple of questions, but he did it well. That's what you do in a debate. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I mean, I literally heard podcasts, people saying, Joe, you should have just learned your lines and never answered the question. Yeah. Exactly. We should take a short stoppage here and discuss the possibility, even though you say, cause of having an earwig.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Now Biden having a listening device. Now we've had a bunch of people write us and then there was some, there was a part in the debate where you could hear something and you, I think you had the right answer to that, which was that it was the IFB of the hosts. Or even a camera person who added up too loud. Yeah, it could be, but there are some clips of Biden holding,
Starting point is 00:57:53 pushing against his ear cause he wanted to hear better. And, and most of the time he was looking away from Trump and he had this gap look. It's like he was listening to something. He had a look that he was, and I think this accounted for a lot of it, he was looking like he was out of it. He wasn't engaged with what Trump had to say because he wasn't listening to Trump.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I believe he was listening to somebody in his ear. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, well, I do think so. And I think so because based on the fact that he would look away and look down and have it like he was listening, like he was listening to somebody trying to tell him something. I will tell you this, I'm very familiar with the technology, I had it myself. If he had an earwig in, you would never hear it on any mic, his or anybody else's.
Starting point is 00:58:40 No, I agree with you about the mic being heard. I'm talking about his, the way he acted. Yeah, I agree with you about the mic being heard. I'm talking about the way he acted. Yeah, no, that's possible. Well, it didn't work. It was like he was listening to somebody other than Trump. He was looking away, he was looking down. Let's just look at the big picture. I'm really, I'm starting to form my opinion now.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Just look at the country. If Trump loses this election, you have a very good possibility that we just have a lot of disorder. Would you say that's fair? Well, I think there's disorder now, but sure. But I mean like, like, like blood on the moon disorder. I don't know. The public is pretty flexible. It's much better to string this.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I will say this. The public might be skittish about the fact if Biden could win this election, there's something wrong. Well, something wrong or, and I'm going to come back to it, maybe we just have a couple of events, a couple of things where people think, you know, I really don't want this guy being the commander in chief because he seems kind of out of it. I don't want his hand on the button. I don't want him to be making the calls. We really don't want World War III. There's a lot of that talk. Trump even brought it up. This may all may remember the people with the money. They don't care. They don't care if it's blue or red who wins. They really don't care. We're the schmucks who care. Like, oh, we want this guy, we want that guy. Red team, red tie, blue tie. They just want a guy in who's going to keep the
Starting point is 01:00:17 money flowing. $900 billion a year. Let's up that a little bit. Can we make it to one trill for sure? And maybe 1.5. Well, there'd be high fives at one trill. Yes. And then a couple more skirmishes, something with Iran, set it up with China, keep that going. We'll keep us relatively safe, but you want everybody on board with that. Like, you know, I'd much rather, you know, that's really a problem, but okay, he lies. We keep talking about that, but that guy would probably be better. In fact, the narrative is kind of who is running the country? What's going to happen? Guys, this conversation about here, I mean, listen, first of all, this was not a good interview.
Starting point is 01:00:55 She couldn't answer a simple question about what's Joe Biden like on a day to day basis because this is about Kamala. I think the honest answer is not acceptable. That's number one. Number two, listen to what you're saying. This is about Kamala, I think. The honest answer is not acceptable. That's number one. Number two, listen to what you're saying. The sitting president of the United States is so out of it and infirm that you're now turning to the vice president of the United States to carry your ticket and your party
Starting point is 01:01:18 when they are currently in office supposedly running the country. This is a scandal. The White House press secretary this last few days have been telling us, oh, the videos you've seen of Joe Biden aren't real, they're fakes. The U.S. government right now has a president and none of us are quite sure what goes on on a day-to-day basis and you're putting all your hopes and dreams into the VP. Okay, that is not true. As somebody who left that White House about a year and a half ago, I can tell you that he is somebody who is very direct in meetings. Behind closed doors, he's great.
Starting point is 01:01:54 He had a bad night tonight on the debate stage. I'm not disputing that, but I can tell you he drives the ship in the White House. He's the person who makes the decisions. You sit in meetings with him. He's asking you for details. He's the person who makes the decisions. You sit in meetings with him. He's asking you for details. He's always asking you for the dang thing you don't have. But not for nothing. And-
Starting point is 01:02:11 So that's Kate Bedingfield. She's talking to Scott Jennings, who is the only conservative pundit on CNN in this particular instance. I think that's kind of where we're gonna see it go. Like, hey, you know, the lesser of two evils, who do you, you know, hey, Trump didn't have a war when he was president.
Starting point is 01:02:29 It seems like that's the direction. I just, I can't help but think, and I'm pretty sure Trump is in on it. All the evidence is at least the circumstantial, but the evidence is here. He didn't, he was like, oh okay, Joe, no good, got it. He's raising his money. All the lawsuits are falling apart, all just in time, like really just in time. And the news media can have a bonanza and just let them loose, let them keep
Starting point is 01:03:02 talking about the lying. And then when some event happens, something with China, something with Iran, then people will come together like, eh, we don't want that guy. We'll have this guy. And Joe will keep, we'll keep Biden in the race. You can do it, Joe. You can answer all the questions. Come on, Joe, don't give it up. Cause he truly, no one can kick him out other than a 25th amendment. And I don't see that happening. No, not at this point where he already has the delegates.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Right. The primaries are over. Joe has enough delegates to get the nomination if he wants it. They can't do anything about it. There's not enough super delegates and super delegates at the Democratic conventions don't vote until the second round, but there'll be no second round. No. So yes, if Biden wants to stay there and he does, he's...
Starting point is 01:03:46 He does, he does. Nice jet you can sleep on it. He's arrogant. He's got a bedroom on this thing? Give me a break. Why would you not want to do that? And as long as people keep watching cable news and they'll keep getting sucked into the, oh, he lies, oh, Joe's an idiot, oh, Joe's toast. And they'll just kind of forget the overall picture of what's really happening. Namely, we're being robbed of our own, of our money.
Starting point is 01:04:12 We're being robbed of our money. If it's not through taxation, if it's not through taxation, then it's through inflation by printing money to build ships and submarines. Ships and subs, I can already write the slogan. Big, beautiful ships. I'm not going to argue that. Now I do have a couple of screwball clips I want to play that are off the wall. And this is part of a long clip. This is actually too long, but it'll get to the point.
Starting point is 01:04:40 This is a body language woman who came on and gave a discussion of the debate but she brought something up that I until I heard it and I talked to Mimi about it was like It is possible that Joe was Botox'd up. Oh, he's what do you mean? He's filled with Botox So let's listen to this debate body language woman Sorry, hold on a second. Oh, here we go. There's a lot of D's. Everything was in slow motion. His fingers and his lack of illustrators when he was talking, he was like a frozen statue up there up on
Starting point is 01:05:27 the stage. It really was painful to watch because I think it was the first time that I think they saw Donald Trump even looking over at Mr. Biden, President Biden, and literally was concerned. I mean, when he tilted his head, when he lost his way in the first question, he looked over at him, kind of registered that he was completely lost. And he looked at him and with passion. I mean, it was like, I felt like he was gonna run over and give the guy a hug, you know?
Starting point is 01:05:59 And then he brought his head back and then he realized he was still off base and he looked over again. He's like, oh my God, you know, he's really has lost his space without going through the entire debate because there was a lot going on, but there was a lot of consistency. We already know that President Biden lack of affect facial expressions, partly because is, I don't know who gave him this recommendation, but he was really way too botoxed out.
Starting point is 01:06:28 And that is a real problem. One, it can create some cognitive issues. Because when you shut down those emotions through facial affect, it can affect the way your brain. So it's not that botox in itself affects its brain, but when we are expressing emotions with muscles in our face, it creates these emotions. Okay? Same thing as actors.
Starting point is 01:06:56 When that has been frozen in space, it's hard to emote an expression. The problem was you didn't see any movement in his top of his forehip. Occasionally you would see these pinched eyebrows only ever so slightly because he tried to force them there, tried to force them there when he was angry. Yeah, listen, my first wife and my second wife had more Botox than Joe Biden has ever seen in his life. This is not true. What's not true? Botox and being botox does not affect your cognitive ability.
Starting point is 01:07:29 We had a clip about six years ago. I'm telling you, I have standing. Yeah, well you do have standing, but I'm just going to say this clip from six years ago, the studies have shown that if you can't emote with your face, your emotions fade out. Sure. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 01:07:46 One more thing and then I want to play something different. There is a distinct possibility in this big game. Remember, we're just the audience. We're looking at a big, big game. And for my money, everybody's in on it. It's also possible that Joe just said, especially looking at his performance the next day, don't give me anything. And he maybe even have have hampered up a little bit
Starting point is 01:08:12 to make himself look even more out of it than usual. Well, that brings us back to the Vincent the Chin gigante. Yes, exactly. Your theory. Which I brought up years ago and I still think it might still be in play, which is that you act like you don't have a clue. But he is just, he can't walk. He's got to, I don't know. Well, Vincent the Chin would also...
Starting point is 01:08:40 Think about it, John. We'd also do that. The whole cheap fakes and what happened made the Democrats, the Democrats, the Biden voters, the Trump haters, the never Trump, everyone except the people who want Trump president, made them all realize Joe has a problem. So that's it, that's all, the work is done.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Now we just need to keep them there, convince them. I don't think they want the power. The Democrat party may want it, but they're low level. They're low level. They're not important in the big game, ultimately, nor are the republics. They're not important. If we really had elections and it really was we the people, it would be a different story, but it's not that way. This is a game. This is a game to get everyone to at least buy into Trump because he's better than the brain dead guy. And Jill's job is to keep Joe motivated to keep going.
Starting point is 01:09:34 And you know, hey, we're going to, we're going to fade off into the sunset. And when Trump becomes president again, Joe's not going to jail. He'll be just fine. becomes president again, Joe's not going to jail. He'll be just fine. I think that's now my official take on all this. No switcheroo, no alternate candidate, but we'll be talking about Big Mike and Kamala and Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer will be talking about for at least the next seven months.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Then we'll go through a horrendous Democratic convention in Chicago. That'll be the new cycle. Then we go into vote. There may not even be, maybe even the only people who will try to rig it will be the Republicans this time Trump is in He's in and he's gonna build big ships and fast submarines And bases lots of things ever base biggest ships big beautiful ships
Starting point is 01:10:38 fast submarines and Yeah, and then and then we'll still be a divided country after that. The way they want us, the way they want us, divided. It's no good if we're all one, if we all agree, it's no good. RFK Jr. held what he called the real debate. Did you see any of that? With himself. Yeah, if you're gonna debate,
Starting point is 01:11:03 it was a masturb derbyden exercise. And I have three clips, because of course he did say things that made sense to a degree. And this is another example of why this debate is a problem, because these two men are the people who ran up the deficit that is causing the inflation. President Trump came into office promising to balance the budget. Instead, he spent more money in office and every president in United States history combined from George Washington to George W. Bush, 283 years of history, President Biden is ‑‑ will beat him.
Starting point is 01:11:43 He's already run up $6.3 trillion in debt and by the end, by time he leaves office he'll have run up more than President Trump. That's why we have inflation. Inflation is cause because they're planning money to pay for these expenses that we don't have and that money is then a tax on the board. That's why we have a 22% hike in home insurance. That's why we have $4 milk, $4 bread, $6 gasoline.
Starting point is 01:12:18 It's because of the forever wars and the out-of-control spending by these two gentlemen. We have a $34 trillion debt now. The interest alone on that debt is costing us more than our military budget. Within five years, 50 cents out of every dollar that we collect in taxes will go to servicing the debt. Within 10 years, 100%, this is existential. Yeah. Well, I think Trump will do a refi of the country. We know that there's some kind of monetary reset underway,
Starting point is 01:12:48 some kind. We actually have the bricks out there as a threat. It looks like everybody wants to go to a gold-backed system again. If Biden can't do that, Democrats can't do that, Trump could probably do it. You could bring enough fentanyl across the border. This is RFK Jr. on fentanyl. You could bring enough fentanyl across the border in a briefcase to kill everybody in Los Angeles. So the fentanyl is going to come in this country. The problem is something much larger than that.
Starting point is 01:13:21 It's a generation that is alienated, that is dispossessed, that is depressed, that is suicidal, that is disconnected from community, and that's why they're turning to drugs. And we need to deal with that problem, and we need to reduce demand, and that my, my signature policy. Now listen to this, because this is, this is kind of creepy. Thank you. It is to begin taxing marijuana federally by descheduling it from schedule one where
Starting point is 01:13:54 it is now where the federal government is not allowed to tax it. So marijuana is legal in many states, but the federal government cannot collect taxes on it. It's legal. Whether you can tax it or not is it's not going to affect the number of people who are using it or the amount that's used. We're going to deschedule it so the government can start collecting taxes. That will raise $8.5 billion in revenue. I'm going to dedicate that money to building drug rehabilitation farms, wellness farms, restoration farms.
Starting point is 01:14:26 No. In rural areas all over this country, where any American go for free to deal with depression, suicidal behavior, alcoholism, drug addiction to illegal drugs, but also addiction to SSRIs, to benzos, to Adderall. We need to reclaim our children. He's literally going to build funny farms.
Starting point is 01:14:49 That doesn't sound like a great idea. And then here's this, all of this of course is not made for TV. No one cares about this. People don't want to hear this. They want red tie, blue tie. A real patriotism means protecting the United States Constitution. And when they, and both of them, subverted the right to free speech, the most important right, President Biden, 37 hours after he took the oath of office. This has never happened in American history. He opened a portal, the FBI, the
Starting point is 01:15:27 CIA, CISA, NIH, DHS, the IRS and other agencies to go in and tamper with social media sites to take out things that were not politically palatable. They violated freedom of worship. The two of them are shutting down every church in this country with no scientific citation. They violated freedom of assembly with mass regulations. They shut down the Seventh Amendment right to jury trials by saying you couldn't sue somebody who was involved in COVID cannabis, no matter how negligent that corporation were, the biggest corporations in the world, no matter how reckless their behavior, no matter how grievous your injury, you could not sue them. It shut down 3.3 million businesses with no due process and no just compensation in violation
Starting point is 01:16:10 of the Fifth Amendment. It shut down the Fourth Amendment's prohibitions against warrantless searches and seizures with this track and trace surveillance. That was the all-out assault on the Constitution. We've never seen the likes of that anytime in American history. And I don't believe they have the right to wear those American flagpets. Yeah, all right. I totally agree.
Starting point is 01:16:32 But no, Bobby, no one wants to hear that. He also has the worst voice. I'm sorry. You just keep that just doesn't. And now that I think about it, I'd like the guy seems okay. But you can't have a president with that voice. It just, that doesn't work. Doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Doesn't work. That was the idea when they gave him that voice. You're horrible. Well, we shall see. Uh, but I, I re I don't think we'll see, uh, any real replacement happening. We're just going to have endless. Yeah. It does a lot for the, uh, controlled opportunists, you know, the Megan Kelly's, the Candace Owens,
Starting point is 01:17:13 everyone can talk and talk and talk and talk. You know, Tucker can talk and talk and talk. Yeah. He's the, did you see his second speech that he gave in Australia? It was funny. Yeah, it was funny. He's good. I'd say almost borderline stand-up with that second speech. Yeah, it was good. But what's he doing there? He's creating a narrative. He's creating... Originally we thought he wanted to have an interview with Assange, but how long does he have to stay there for that to happen?
Starting point is 01:17:47 I think that Tucker is leading the alternative media in a way. So everyone's emboldened to speak like he speaks and says what he says and suck everybody in and we'll all be preoccupied with it. But I think people should do one thing, two things a week, listen to No Agenda, and then go outside and play with your kids.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Read a book, roll in the grass, walk the dog. Just listening to No Agenda and reading a book is the way to go. Pretty much all you need. There was a very sad moment, something unexpected, and obviously food for a conspiracy therapists such as myself. I was very distressed to hear this. This is Chip Roy on the floor of the house. We were all saddened to learn today of the passing of the spouse of one of our members,
Starting point is 01:18:37 Thomas Massey, the gentleman from Kentucky. His wife Rhonda, of many years, they were childhood sweethearts, she suddenly passed away yesterday. Mr. Massey had to drive home to Kentucky and be home with his family, which is where he is today. I would ask everybody in the chamber and everybody around the complex to please rise and observe a moment of silence and offer your prayers and thoughts and condolences
Starting point is 01:19:02 for our good friend from Kentucky. Dude, what are the chances of that? The guy comes out talks about APAC being no good. They're not allowed in his office. He really, you know, laid out a lot of truths and obvious things that are just not discussed on Tucker just a couple weeks ago. And then at 51, I think his wife dies suddenly. I don't like it. Suddenly.
Starting point is 01:19:27 I don't like that at all. I'm very sad, but also, whoa, are you kidding me now? Yeah. You had, you're not a Vax. That's no, no, no, no, no. Not from them. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Not from them.
Starting point is 01:19:47 They were not vaxxed. You sure? Yes. Yes. Did you ever see the full interview with Tucker that he did? No, I only watched the clip, it's clip, it's the clip, it's the clip, it's. So no, I think it all comes back to, you know, just people gotta stop being mind controlled that some daddy-o is gonna come into the White House and fix your business.
Starting point is 01:20:13 No, that's not gonna happen. But they want you to think that no matter who it is, they want you to think that. Well, before we get off the topic, which is coming, I can tell. Yeah, I think we're on. I have two biting clips where he actually talks and I want to get these out of the way.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Okay. And I also have the one where he says that people should be more concerned about being, women should be concerned about being raped by their sister. Which I don't think he's. Everybody saw it, John, but okay. He was ridiculous. No, I don't want to play that.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Oh, well, you have it. I do have it if you want to play it. Of course. Of course. We might as well play it. Look, there's so many young women who have been, including a young woman who just was murdered, and he went to the funeral. The idea that she was murdered by an immigrant coming in, they talk about that.
Starting point is 01:21:02 But here's the deal. There's a lot of young women who are being raped by their in-laws, by their spouses, brothers and sisters. By, oh, it's just ridiculous. And they can do nothing about it. And they try to arrest them when they cross state lines. Thank you. You know, they must have rehearsed that with him. And they're like, oh, this would be great, Joe,
Starting point is 01:21:22 when you say this. The Republicans will go crazy. Which of course everybody did. Well, they did. Which they did, of course. It's so- Now, the thing that I thought was the key gap, I have two more clips and I'm not going to play anymore, but this is a Biden, I thought the key gap was this one. And this is the one where Trump kept looking over there and going, this guy's off the rails. The 29 second clip. This is the one where Trump kept looking over there and going, this guy's off the rails. The 29 second clip.
Starting point is 01:21:45 This is the Biden key gaff Medicare. Make sure that all those things we need to do, childcare, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our healthcare system, making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the COVID, excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with, look, if we finally beat Medicare. Thank you, President Biden. He had the Fauci wheeze, did you notice that?
Starting point is 01:22:24 Oh, you know, Tom Starkweather did an end of show mix. It's beautiful because it's about a minute, and it's an evergreen. It's the debate of 2024 in one minute. And he was doing a play-by-play on Mastodon of how he was editing it. And he says that Biden literally has only three seconds of breath every single time he speaks.
Starting point is 01:22:46 He could see it in the waveforms. It was three seconds. He couldn't do anything more than three seconds of breath for anything he said. And you can count it when he's speaking. Wow. Yeah, yeah. It was pretty interesting how he was deconstructing that on the fly. Now, the only one I want to play, which is the absolute first comments made at the debate where Biden comes out and he, and I only have the first few minutes, first few seconds of this.
Starting point is 01:23:12 What is this? This is a debate first comments by this one minute 16 out of two immediately. And I'm going to ring the bell. He starts lying. He started, he's the one who started the lying and he starts it with, he comes out, they ask him a simple question. He lies three or four times in the first minute and then he goes on and lies about insulin and Medicare and the amount of people,
Starting point is 01:23:37 amount of money people have to pay. And this was, nobody wants to talk about him being a bigger liar than Trump. This is remain high. Since you took office, the price of essentials has increased. For example, a basket of groceries that cost $100 then now costs more than $120. And typical home prices have jumped more than 30%. What do you say to voters who feel they are worse off under your presidency than they were under President Trump? We got to take a look at what I was left when I became president and what Mr. Trump left
Starting point is 01:24:10 me. We had an economy that was in freefall. The pandemic was badly handled. Many people were dying. All he said was, it's not that serious. Just inject a little bleach in your arm. The economy collapsed. There were no jobs.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Unemployment rate rose to 15%. It was terrible. And so what we had to do is try to put things back together again. That's exactly what we began to do. We created 15,000 new jobs. We brought out another position where we have 800,000 manufacturing jobs, but there's more to be done. There's more to be done. Working class people are still in trouble. I come from Scranton, Pennsylvania. I come of household where the kitchen tables and things weren't able to be met during the month was a problem. Price of eggs, the price of gas, the price of housing, the price of a whole range of things. That's why I'm working so hard to make sure I deal with those problems and we're going to make sure that we're here. Wow. You could really hear the three second cadence in that clip.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Yes, you could. Yep. And now that he's done that, as I re-listen to that clip and I could hear the three seconds, now it's going to be totally annoying to listen to Biden. Or you'll know that it's the guy in the mask if he goes beyond three seconds, because that can't be Biden. Oh, that could be. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:25:28 The guy in the mask doesn't have the same teeth. Anyway, make sure you go outside, play with the kids, everybody. Don't get suckered into this. It's not worth it. Right now I'm telling you, it's all going to go the way you want it. It's going to be fine. We'll have big, beautiful ships, very fast subs. They go deeper than anything else. Beautiful bases with beachfront. It's fantastic. It's all going to be good. And you're going to pay for it one way or the other.
Starting point is 01:25:55 Trump, all of a sudden you notice he's like, I'm all good with Bitcoin. Bitcoin's okay. Bitcoin, yeah, it'd be great for Bitcoin. I think that's only because he knows there's going to be some kind of digital dollar. That resets got to happen. Doesn't that happen? Haven't we had financial resets globally in the hundreds of years? We must've had some kind of resets throughout the years. Would you know anything about that?
Starting point is 01:26:20 Maybe World War I? Yeah. Not after, well, World War II, isn't that when we got Bretton Woods? We actually did a good job of getting everybody back on their feet. When did we do Bretton Woods? After World War I? Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:34 And World War II? There were some divisions going on in World War II where we divided things up, divvied things up. I don't know, any big reset. I don't know. I'm not convinced of this. No, not big reset, financial reset. Yeah, there could be something. There could be a, we could have a stock market crash.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Well, that seems a given. I've been saying that ever since it crossed over 40,000. When it, cause I've seen this before. I saw this in the, when I was a kid, they, the market gets to some point and it just has this spot where it has to go over, it'll bump against it and it keeps trying and trying and trying to go over and it's sitting there below as you as it would do and then try to make a run at it again. And then it is somehow it just like some psychological thing takes place. It's not going to happen.
Starting point is 01:27:25 And then the whole thing just falls apart. Bretton Woods was at the World War II, by the way. It will probably take place in about six months. Right. Well, that's the perfect timing. That's why they want Trump running it. Yeah, Trump will be in, and he has to fix it. And he will fix it.
Starting point is 01:27:40 And this may have already been concocted already. We'll figure it out. And that's when we get the mark of the beast. All right. There was something else that went down, a couple of interesting rulings from the Supreme Court as they are ready to go on vacation. They've had to extend it. Oh, they're going to have to do one more on Monday. But there was a couple of interesting things in there. You discussed it in the newsletter and one of them is one that we've been talking about for several months on the No Agenda Show. I like that people emailed and said, I knew what this was about because of you guys.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Tonight, three colossal decisions with far reaching consequences. The high court narrowing who can be charged under a federal law that dates back to Enron, more recently used to prosecute more than 200 people who stormed the Capitol on January 6th. The justice is opening the door now to possible resentencing or even retrials for roughly a few dozen still behind bars. At least one judge moving quickly today asking prosecutors to weigh in on next steps with a handful of defendants. Former President Trump likely not impacted by today's ruling, nor most other people who were charged with other crimes related to January 6.
Starting point is 01:28:56 In another major case, the high court knocking down a 40-year-old rule of its own making that required judges to defer to federal agencies when interpreting vague laws passed by Congress. That practice, known as the Chevron framework, long targeted by conservatives... Isn't it interesting she said framework instead of deference? Yeah, well actually deference is a term that kind of cropped up, but in the documents themselves it's called the Chevron doctrine. Yes, doctrine, but not the framework.
Starting point is 01:29:25 But the framework, nobody uses that. ...who've argued it gives unelected bureaucrats too much power, the decision likely to prompt a rush of lawsuits, challenging regulations on everything from food safety to the environment. Also today, the court's conservative majority upholding laws banning people experiencing homelessness from sleeping outdoors, finding no violation of the constitution's prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment, drawing a sharp dissent from the liberals, with Justice Sotomayor writing, sleep is a biological necessity, not a crime. So let's go in reverse order here. Do you have anything, any clips on the, on the outdoor sleeping,
Starting point is 01:30:06 camping, ruling? No, I did have a couple that were kind of lined up. I never took them, but it's mostly you guys ranting about cruel and unusual punishment. Let's just go back to the history of this because it actually, although this case was brought from Oregon and we followed this for years.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Yeah, it came out, it really came out of Idaho. Exactly, Idaho. And they decided up there, we can't move people's tents. And some consultants came in and said, oh no, that's cruel and unusual punishment. And that really started off the entire
Starting point is 01:30:38 homelessness visibility. I don't want to say homelessness isn't real, but the visibility. Homelessness has been around, but this visible homelessness on the city streets of San Francisco, Los Angeles, Boston, and elsewhere, New York, that all came out of this Idaho idea that this is, to have a vagrancy law and say, hey buddy, get you and your tent off the street. That's somehow cruel and unusual. How is it unusual? It's been going on forever, 200 years of the vagrancy laws. It's not unusual, so it's not cruel and unusual. It's not even cruel,
Starting point is 01:31:18 it's just, you know, it's just the way it is. I mean, it's like giving somebody a traffic ticket saying, well, that traffic is cruel and unusual. It's a biological necessity, John, says our Supreme Court. The problem I have with it is it really took away a lot of resources and government cycles from solving the actual problem to people who instead were arguing about this,
Starting point is 01:31:44 about is it cruel? Is it unusual? Is it punishment? And meanwhile it also deteriorated the streets of the cities. It made it a mess and really diverted attention away from helping people in this situation, which to me is the true crime. Then the other one before we get to Chevron is the January 6 ruling. I thought this was very interesting. Here's an overview. Breaking news this time about... I'm sorry. Here's breaking news about it. Breaking news this time about the January 6 rioters the Supreme Court has just ruled. Let's get to Shannon Breen. What did they say?
Starting point is 01:32:19 So what they have said is that one of the statutes the Justice Department used to charge hundreds of different January 6th defendants is no good. And that includes President Donald Trump, because he has actually had two of these counts against him in the Jack Smith, D.C. case against him, that federal criminal case that has been on hold here. So what essentially they say is this statute, which was passed in the wake of Enron, they say it doesn't fit here. He says, given that the subsection was enacted to address the Enron disaster, not some other far flung set of dangers like what happened just right over here at the Capitol, it is
Starting point is 01:32:53 unlikely that Congress responded with such an unfocused and grossly incommensurate patch in English that essentially means that all of these people who were charged under this particular obstruction statute for January 6th, that is no good. The dissent, this is a very interesting vote makeup because the dissent is actually written by Justice Barrett and she is joined by Justices Sotomayor and Kagan. She says that Congress did intend for this kind of conduct to be brought under this particular obstruction charge. She thinks the majority got it wrong.
Starting point is 01:33:21 But what it means is a big headache for the DOJ and good news for hundreds of January 6th defendants charged under this statute, again, including president Trump. That was interesting that Barrett went, uh, went against the majority on this one. She's turning out to be kind of not what people expected from her. She's just the independent thinker. That's all I can say. And she was, in fact, the other thing is where's the Katanji Brown, the crazy black woman, went on the other side of it. So the two flip flopped. I mean, maybe they had a deal.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Jonathan Turley luckily gave us a little explanation. I trust his opinion. Yeah, he's good. He's good. On what this means for people who are still in jail, people who have been sentenced, and for President Trump's case that Jack Smith, the special prosecutor, is running. Two aspects to this. Some of them were convicted of what is now established to be improper charges. I mean, that hundreds of people were the subject of improper charges by the Justice Department. That includes President Trump, who has not been tried yet. They were also sentenced based on this conviction, as well as a mix of other things. So those sentencing
Starting point is 01:34:38 decisions now have to be reevaluated. I've said all along that I was surprised by how heavy the Department of Justice went on obstruction. I analogized it to someone going to Vegas and playing roulette but only betting red. Well, basically the court just said red's not a bet. So we've got to go back and look at all of these cases, not just for those who now have these convictions knocked out, but how they impact sentencing. For President Trump, this is a big day. I've said all along that Fisher needs to be treated as important as the immunity decision, potentially, for Trump.
Starting point is 01:35:18 It basically rips the wings off the plane that Jack Smith is trying to get off the ground in DC. Now, can he push that plane forward on the runway? I don't know because if you take this this claim out it's really integral to his entire complaint. I mean it's hard to see all the complaint holds together if he was excessive and wrong in bringing these charges. Excuse me.
Starting point is 01:35:49 All right. So that, that looks good for Trump, looks good for the January six people. We're really starting to clear up a lot of things here at the end of, uh, Joe Biden's reign of terror. And then we get to the one that we are most interested in, which is Chevron deference, which we've been following and looking into and explaining. I actually have an analysis from our constitutional lawyer, Rob. Here's the MSNBC quick take.
Starting point is 01:36:14 On Friday, the Supreme Court handed down a decision to reduce the power of federal agencies by gutting the longstanding legal precedent of Chevron versus Natural Resources Defense Council. That gave federal agencies broad regulatory power. The justices may be driving key legal decisions in our country right now, but there are subjects that they probably don't know much about. I mean, to my knowledge, Chief Justice Roberts is not a chemical engineer. Justice Brett Kavanaugh is not a botanist.
Starting point is 01:36:45 And last I checked, Justice Amy Coney Barrett is not a member of the Federal Reserve. But that's what this ruling implies, that these justices are experts in fields outside of the law and that they know better than the people who get paid to make these decisions in the federal government. Now, this is obviously the narrative that is going to be spun. That's why I played that clip. But I need your expertise for this next analysis, which comes to us from, man, Joy Reid, getting play these days. She's prime time. Listen to this because you are a subject expert in this conversation. Okay, Ellie, what is Chevron deference and long may it rest.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Yeah. So, okay. People understand that Congress passes the laws and the president enforces the law, right? So Congress passes the law. Let's say it's called the Clean Water Act, right? And then the president through the executive agency of the EPA defines what the Clean Water Act actually means. Now people at home might say like, oh, why can't Congress define it? executive agency of the EPA defines what the Clean Water Act actually means. Now
Starting point is 01:37:45 people at home might say like, oh why can't Congress define it? Well Congress doesn't define words like clean and Congress doesn't define words like water. So who is it who's going to make the decision as to how much lead is actually allowed to be in the water before it's clean? Who's going to make the decision about what constitutes water? Is it a pool, is it a puddle, is it a river, is it a lake? Who gets to make that decision? Experts? For the last 40 years, it's been experts at the EPA.
Starting point is 01:38:13 But as of today, the only people entrusted to make that decision according to the Supreme Court is the Supreme Court. So what we know today was the Supreme Court is the Supreme Court. So what we know today was the Supreme Court making the biggest power grab over our elected government since really the founding since 1803 when the Supreme Court invented the idea of calling laws unconstitutional, which is not actually in the Constitution. Since then, this is the next hugest thing. Because what the Supreme Court is saying that it can do the job that the Constitution gives to the President of the United States.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Completely off base, off kilter and nuts. That's a lie. That's just basically a lie. And the Clean Water Act, which I looked at, it's a very, very big piece of legislation, was really a funding bill. It was a funding bill to set up a lot of agency expertise and reporting structure. There was no determination of how much lead can be in the water. That's not in the Clean Water Act. There's a piece that is more pertinent to you coming up. Is there anything you want to say about this other than that's a lie, that's not how it
Starting point is 01:39:29 works? That's a lie. That's not how it works. I will mention that what difference does it make in terms of the Chevron Deference, we have to remember, came in 1984 and we had these agencies, the administrative state was alive and well for since the, I don't know, the 30s? Since the Franklin Roosevelt administration and on, and I guess even before that to some lesser extent because there was a Bureau of Land Management and the Indian bureaus and all the rest of it. They got along just fine without having, without all of a sudden becoming the be all end all of legislation where, oh, some expert, that's bull crap.
Starting point is 01:40:09 This entire case, the case that the, uh, that got Chevron deference thrown out is the Romando case. And that's where the fishermen of fishermen were told that they have to have an inspector on their boat at $170 a day, and they have to pay for the inspector because some bureaucrat decided that's easier. It's easier on our budget if you have to pay. What expertise does that take?
Starting point is 01:40:36 What kind of, ooh, this is great expertise? No, it's not. It's somebody deciding you have to pay 170 bucks a day on a small fishing boat to keep this inspector on the boat when the government should be paying for the inspector, not you. Was that the number? And that's what it all stems around. These experts, that's only at the very thin layer.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Most of the time these people are just out there doing bureaucratic paperwork. This is the most nonsensical thing I've ever heard. Well, there's a reason that they're taking this tact. We'll get to it. But first, analysis from our constitutional lawyer, Rob, former JAG. Here he is. Justice Kagan's dissent predicts judicial mayhem.
Starting point is 01:41:18 She foresees, quote, large-scale disruption and a massive shock to the legal system, casting doubt on many settled constructions of statutes and threatening the interests of many parties who have relied on them for years. Rob says, nonsense. This decision won't strip administrative agencies of their interpretive powers. They will continue to do what they've always done, issue rules and regulations and interpret those edicts when the time comes to enforce them. The only difference now is that courts no longer have to defer To what the agency says his prediction courts will still view agency interpretations as persuasive authority
Starting point is 01:41:54 under a doctrine called skidmore deference and Will accept those I'd like that skidmore just sounds like cool name, and will accept those interpretations most of the time. No judicial Armageddon is at hand, but going forward, agencies can no longer come up with strange but permissible interpretations and expect the courts to capitulate. Big corporations can no longer place their people in the agencies to make lopsided rules
Starting point is 01:42:22 that will benefit well-connected business interests at everyone else's expense. This is good news. Nor does yesterday's decision mean that all precedents following Chevron are now bad law. The fact is most of these cases probably would have been decided the same way because in most cases the agency's interpretation was probably the most persuasive option. We should expect a few old decisions to be overruled, but that will take time. And let's face it, bad laws ought to die anyway.
Starting point is 01:42:48 I think that's pretty fair. I think that's pretty on the money. And that's true. That's just gonna change. It's not gonna change that much, but the idea of agency capture is kind of maybe out the window. This whole idea that all of a sudden some agency,
Starting point is 01:43:04 an agency decides that we have to go all electric by 2030. This is not a law anybody passes. This is some agency decision that is in use as leverage by the Democrat party mostly. That stuff's out the window. Or a CDC vaccine mandate, that kind of stuff. Yeah. There's a lot of, well, see, yeah, those guys are hopeless. Now here's an interesting clip, and this is where you're, I think this is the one where you are a domain and subject expert. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. So you're saying that in the Clean Water Act, rather than the agency, like the EPA, which
Starting point is 01:43:42 has experts in clean and water. Oh, brother. The Supreme Court will decide what clean and water are. Yes. The Supreme Court now gets to overrule the EPA's decision on what constitutes clean water, where the water is supposed to go. It's the same with clean air.
Starting point is 01:44:00 The EPA, the Supreme Court now gets to overrule the EPA on how much carbon monoxide can be in the air, how much nitrous oxide. Oh wait, nitrous oxide is laughing gas. Nitrogen oxides are smog and Neil Gorsuch got that wrong yesterday. So they're trying to make a point here that Neil Gorsuch said nitrous oxide. John, your domain expert, nitrous oxide is not just laughing gas, is it?
Starting point is 01:44:30 Well, it's not much more. I mean, nitrous oxides also used as an oxidant for drag racers. Yes. I mean, it's a very useful gas as an oxidant. And it also creates a climate change. Nitrous oxide, not so much. Oh, oh. But I will say this, that the whole idea that, okay, so he made a blunder, he said nitrous oxide. Somebody should have corrected him on that. The idea that these guys are all going to knuckle under
Starting point is 01:45:03 and the Supreme Court is going to make all these decisions is just unbelievable nonsense. Well, this is the whole point of the counter narrative on Chevron deference is to get rid of the Supreme Court. I feel like the way this is going to go is because when they did, for instance, the ruling on bump stocks. Clarence Thomas just lifted the description of bump stocks from a right-wing pro-gun organization and dropped that in and said basically the people who said this is not a machine gun don't know what they're talking about because that organization did. Because when you say the Supreme Court is going to now decide, doesn't that mean the big corporations who they like, the rich people that they like,
Starting point is 01:45:44 and the right-wing organizations that they like? That's really who's gonna decide right? Yes. It's people on Harlan Crowe's yacht That's no it's gonna be allowed to be in water or not. And look, this is the this is why they did it, right? Look the what's going to happen now Is that any regulation the Supreme Court likes that will be upheld and any regulation the Supreme Court likes, that will be upheld. And any regulation the Supreme Court doesn't like, that will be overturned. And that is what they told us they could do. Again, this is not in the Constitution. There's no constitutional clause or power that gives the Supreme Court this right. They aggrandized it to themselves and they took it away from the President and they took it away from Congress.
Starting point is 01:46:24 It's amazing they keep saying the Supreme court is the courts not just the supreme court the courts the courts you know can now say hey hold on a second send this back to congress make it unambiguous you know or you know show us the experts i mean it's they're just trying and they're going to be inundated with this. I'm going to mention that by the way, nitrous oxide is a greenhouse gas. I told you. It is, of course it is. But the whole… But why of course?
Starting point is 01:46:55 Why would it be of course? Because these people are too stupid to even bring that in. They think it's only laughing gas. And they just… Oh, that's what you say. Oh, Neil Gorsuch, what a dope. Oh, he said it all wrong. We're going to be- I don't know why there's so much in the atmosphere.
Starting point is 01:47:14 Anyway, well, doesn't it come from burning fossil fuels as well? You get, you actually get, you get nitric oxides from, that's why you have a platinum catalytic converter in your car. So you don't crack up laughing? No, it's not. No, it's because you get these, you get really extreme nitric oxides, including I think nitric oxide, which I mean, which is used to make nitric acid, nasty, nasty acid. And it just goes in, and you can smell it when sometimes you get this, it's a very interesting
Starting point is 01:47:53 aroma of nitric, various nitric oxides, but the one that makes nitric acid in O3, I think, I'm not sure. But whatever the case is, you have to get that out of there because it's nasty. And I guess some nitrous oxide might come out of the tank, out of the gas, I mean, out of the engine. Maybe, I don't think it can be that much. Anyway, this will be another talking point, endless talking point. The Supreme Court now controls your life.
Starting point is 01:48:21 That's what they're going to say. Yeah. And the Supreme Court is like everybody else. They don't want to do any extra work. No, they want to go on vacation. Who are you kidding? They're going to, oh yeah, we're going to be the boss. That's why they're taking, after Monday, they're on vacation.
Starting point is 01:48:36 What kind of an operation is this? The only thing they have left is, oh, we've got to rule on that on that responsibility thing. Can you indemnify the president? That's going to be annoying. I think they can put it off again. Ooh. When do they go?
Starting point is 01:48:54 Oh, that's interesting. Why not? We'll figure it out later. We got to go. We got vacation time coming. The yacht is waiting for me. I'm booked in Saint Tropez. I don't have time for this.
Starting point is 01:49:03 The yacht is already waiting for me. And Clarence Thomas says, yeah, I got this friend of mine's got a jet. He's flying me off, but I got to leave tomorrow. I got no time for that. Oh, that could be. Although it's my understanding they will rule on it Monday. That's what they said.
Starting point is 01:49:17 They're supposed to have done it Friday. Well, it's a tough one because, you know, if they say to Trump, well, you know, you don't have full indemnification, then Biden's on the hook too. Then the whole other thing. That's also Obama with his kill list. Yeah, then everybody's on the hook. They just can't do it. They can't do it. Hey, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage, Mr. Dvorak. In fact, I'd like to say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the clown
Starting point is 01:49:46 show, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. Dvorak! In the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, in the morning all ships and seaboots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. Hello trolls, don't move! Don't count yet! That looks like church showed up. We got 2,516 trolls versus 1863 on the last Sunday show. Yeah, it's because of this debate thing. Everybody wants to hear what we have to say. I hope we...
Starting point is 01:50:24 I hope... They did. I got lots of notes. Oh, I wants to hear what we have to say. I hope we, I hope. They did, I got lots of notes. Oh, I'm really looking forward to the show. Well, I hope they understand our opinion on this. I'm not sure we understand our own opinion, but. I do. I hope so too. I do, I do. I do, we're looking at the wrong people.
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Starting point is 01:52:48 Is there a way to see that on noagendaartgenerator.com? No, I don't think so. I thought, no, I thought there was, isn't there a stat somewhere that says, yeah, yeah, it's on the homepage. 1,500 artists have created over 32 and a half thousand pieces of art. So that's, well, we've got 16, so that's 30 times as much as episodes. And that is actually true. There's 15, 10, 20, 30 pieces of art we get to choose from
Starting point is 01:53:19 right after we're finished producing the show, which is really wonderful. It's not always an immediate great choice, but there usually is a couple that we can look at and say, oh man, just look at the time and talent these people have provided us. And the artwork for episode 1672, which we titled Sand Battery, was a very obvious choice.
Starting point is 01:53:42 It's a no agenda classic. It was Black Knight Parker Pauley, who brought us the, well, now debunked no agenda energy drink, the blue ass, as in donkey, debate strength energy drink, drink or boof, it lasts 90 minutes. And of course we thought that was appropriate for the show. Although turns out it wasn't appropriate at all
Starting point is 01:54:06 Because it was none of that none of that in use Let's take a look at some of the previous the pieces very very annoying. What's annoying? Oh that he said we didn't have jacked up Joe Because it would have been you think it would have been funnier. I Just think it would have been what we we expected it and I just the it would have been what we expected it and the expectation was like they jipped us. We got jipped. I'm disappointed we didn't figure it out from the cheap fakes.
Starting point is 01:54:35 There was no way of figuring it out. There was all indicators, all signs pointed to Jack Dub Joe. Yeah. Tom Teniel, one of our Dutch masters, created the Talk, Talk Louder buttons, also based on the debate with the muted mics. We had, let me see, Let's Get Ready to Mumble by Dame Kenny Ben, another Dutch master, which was, I think we looked at that one. We did look at a number of the sand batteries. Tom Teniel again with a AA battery on a bunch of sand.
Starting point is 01:55:09 People liked the sand battery. The one we seriously talked about was Dirty Jersey Whore with, what was it, Baking America Great Again with Uncle Sam sitting in the oven. Yeah, I used that for the newsletter. That was a good one. That was fun. Um, Captain Chaos, another sand battery, um, Biden debate prep with a pill box, uh, the Silicon Valley bull crap dictionary. I mean,
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Starting point is 01:57:48 So no knighthood for him? He didn't request a knighthood? He already is sir. Oh of course. No, a title upgrade I mean. He should have an upgrade. No, he didn't say anything about title upgrades. So we'll wait for he's the one who's going to tell us. Let us know Sir Ronald. Jesper Holmberg, Parts Unknown
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Starting point is 02:00:14 meetup report coming up later from Greenwood, Indiana. It's always a lot of people. $255. That's usually a switcheroo from their raffle donation indeed switcheroo raffle donation on behalf of Ariel Ashley So we are putting that in now Ariel will get the associate executive producership big Thanks to the indie a and a tribe for the warm welcome and the kickstart to my damehood Connection is protection and we're thrilled to now be living in a state with freedom, good values, and the most no-agenda meetings in the world. Please deduce me and send some baby-making karma our way. You've been deduced.
Starting point is 02:00:54 Blake, you've got karma. There you go. Blake, Michigan. In Chicago, curiously. Uh, 233.99. Thanks for watching the news for me, guys. Here's a row of ducks plus fees. Locals and travelers look for a meetup to post for the weekend of July 20th.
Starting point is 02:01:26 Little girl, we're all gonna die. We're all gonna die! Ralph Habegger, Milverton, Ontario, Canada, 233. Couldn't talk! I would like a de-doosh. De-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, de-doosh, I was first hitting them out, hitting them out by a douchebag friend named Case or Casey douchebag call out after your Rogan appearance in 2020. When I realized that my beautiful fiance was turning 33 on a show day, I knew it was time for this douchebag to donate. That shouldn't be the only reason, but we appreciate it. The value we provide is where
Starting point is 02:02:05 we'd like you to send it back and dedouche. I'd like to thank the two of you for the work you do and the premium content you deliver twice weekly. Yes, indeed. It's premium content all the time. No firewalls, no subscriptions, no hoops you have to jump through. None of it. I'd like to request the jingle shut up already It's science bullshit. Boom. Shockalaka little girl. My birthday shout out is this I'd like to wish my fiance Christina a happy 33rd birthday From her shot see thanks Ralph Boom shakalaka, boom shakalaka! Hakan Andresen in Portland, Oregon, 21060. Hey John and Adam, this is another donation from my niece Tilda. This is switcheroo.
Starting point is 02:02:55 Make a note. Who is, she's getting baptized this Sunday, the 30th in Bergen, Norway. Double up karma, please keep up the good work hacking Andreessen. So do you think it's just tilde or is it tilde Andreessen? Because it's nice. No, it's probably not Andreessen. It's tilde. Tilde it is. You've got... Double up karma. Eli the Coffee Guy is in Bensonville, Illinois, 20.30 that means 200 plus the fees thank you brother.
Starting point is 02:03:25 On the last two shows the issue of heat warnings came up. I grew up in a house that had no air conditioning. Summers were hot. Nowadays most of us are spoiled by the luxury of central air and when we in turn have a lower tolerance for hot weather the media hysterics don't help. Heat domes, polar vortexes and all the rest of the shock and awe terms are BS meant to perpetuate climate fears. There's gambling going on? Summers are supposed to be hot, winters are supposed to be cold, at least here in the Midwest.
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Starting point is 02:04:47 Well, that's what we just witnessed. I like it. That's interesting. Actually, Lindaloo is somewhat of a phenomenon now. One of our producers did this for her. Linda Lou, she writes great resumes. He has a whole song. This is just a little bit. Isn't that great? Wow. Yeah, he has a whole song he wrote for her.
Starting point is 02:05:25 The Dent Guy is in Hudson, Wisconsin, 254. In the morning, gentlemen, my clan and I are all eternally grateful for the amygdala reducing infotainment you so faithfully provide. This is my first donation on my way to knighthood. Please, deduce me. You've been deduced. I'm so excited about eventually becoming a knight
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Starting point is 02:09:26 Shut up, Slade! Noagenderdonations.com I have a screwy clip I'd like to get out of here. You're just filled with screwy clips today. I know, today is screwy clip day for me. Screwy clip day. This is Bill Maher with Tulsi Gabbard and Chris Matthews. After Hours.
Starting point is 02:09:52 This is not on the show. This is on the webcast. Do they do that on CNN, the After Hours or only on the web? So I get it off of YouTube. So I think the web, I don't think CNN knows how to do it and this would really kind of caught me off guard because I did not expect any of this and I don't think more expected the answer from Tulsi and
Starting point is 02:10:17 And it's about Julian Assange and whether he's a good guy or a bad guy and I was actually kind of surprised by this Okay, now that wiki- WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, oh good, let's get to this. Why? No, it's good. I may too. Has pled guilty to espionage and secured his freedom. I didn't see this coming, by the way.
Starting point is 02:10:36 I didn't think he'd ever get out. What will his legacy be? Yes, is- Time served. Time served. He served six years and that's what he's getting. No, but they're talking about his legacy and that's what I want to know. Is he a heroic crusader exposing government lies, or he is a reckless traitor who was endangering our freedom? Yeah, I mean it depends who you ask. I think that the more people have been, I mean, I think that he is an example of,
Starting point is 02:11:03 his prosecution, the charges against him, are one of the biggest attacks on freedom of the press that we've seen and freedom of speech. Wow, I thought you would go the other way. No, not at all. I think Ellsberg looks good right now. Daniel Ellsberg looks very good right now in what he did. And the Fennicon papers was about how the Kennedy administration and Johnson administration, not Nixon, what they did to lie about the war.
Starting point is 02:11:27 Well, I don't know all the particulars. I mean, you'd have to really spend months and months going through the amount of stuff he put out. But in general, I think the world's full of bad people, like I was saying to Ray. The world's full of bad people. And yeah, I think sometimes you need somebody to put the hammer down, I think Obama said this, and just say, I'm sorry. You can't expose our secret agents.
Starting point is 02:11:54 And we have to think of our security first. I mean, yes, I'm sure the government does some gnarly things. But I don't like this. I don't like a guy who pretends that he's the patriot when it's the spies out there who are protecting this country, not Julian Assange. Because there are people who want to destroy this country. And there are people who are plotting to get nuclear weapons and all the rest of it. And this guy is not the one who made sure that we have not really been attacked since 9 11.
Starting point is 02:12:26 Oh brother. Tell me about it and by the way I want to ask I would just ask a rhetorical question about Julian Assange being a traitor. He's not an American. How is he a traitor? How do you how can you be a traitor if you're like a Russian, for example? Right. You're trying to put intelligence into Bill Maher's head, which I just can't go along with. He is one of the most uninformed people on television. He really only reads the New York Times. He really knows nothing. He seems like a nice guy to smoke a doobie with, which I don't do anymore, but otherwise, no.
Starting point is 02:13:06 He's ill-informed. I did see the show with Tulsi. She actually was the one, she brought up, well, Biden has the nuclear code. She was the first one to say it. Thought that was interesting. She's kind of vapid. I'm not quite sure. What is she doing?
Starting point is 02:13:25 I don't know. She's showing up on a lot of talk shows. I don't know what she's doing for a living. Yeah, that's talk shows. They're paid minimum wage of anything. Nothing. You get nothing for appearing on those shows. Well, you can get something.
Starting point is 02:13:40 Scale, maybe scale. I had a lot of CNBC shows and I get a thousand dollars every time I went. Okay. Those were the days when he got our money in a brown paper bag. We had 24 hour day limo service cable was rocking baby. Those days are over. Whatever. Those days are over. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:13:58 I don't know. I think she has some kind of foundation or something. I don't know. Um, you know, I was just seeing her sitting there. I'm like, wow, could she be a Trump vice presidential candidate? But people have suggested it. It just kind of hit me. And not that it's something I took seriously, but it did enter my mind.
Starting point is 02:14:18 Like, why did it enter my mind? Since we're on the topic, we should discuss at least our theories. On who's going to be the vice presidential candidate. And I'm really good at this because I nailed it. I'm the one who picked the Alaskan woman way in advance. But I'm telling you, I have no idea who Trump's going to pick on this one. Would he pick Byron Donald, who I think is the superstar of that group?
Starting point is 02:14:46 Because he talks like a champ and he's good looking and he's got a mean-spirited, just what you want. And... I want that guy from... What's that black guy who's from Michigan? No, not Michigan, Missouri. Who's that guy? What black guy from Missouri? Yeah, he's like a, he's almost like a preacher. We played a clip from
Starting point is 02:15:10 him. Oh, you're thinking about the North Carolina guy? I'm sorry, North Carolina. That's it. Yeah. Yeah, he is. I think he is a preacher. There you go. I like that. That guy is too, that guy is out there. There's no way. What's his name? He's like unbelievable. I love that guy. What's his name again? He's like unbelievable. I love that guy. He's fantastic. Yeah, he's entertaining.
Starting point is 02:15:31 And then you have the JD Vance, which a lot of people think is gonna get it. Vance? But he's kind of, I mean. I don't like him. I think he's like a Pence, warmed over Pence. Warmed over Pence. That's almost a show title, I think. Warmed over Pence. That's almost a show title, I think.
Starting point is 02:15:47 Warmed over Pence. Little long. And then of course Vivek, everyone's, there's a bunch of people that actually think he's a viable candidate and it's possible that Trump would pick him. He's very talkative. He is the guy who shows up everywhere.
Starting point is 02:16:01 He's at Mar-a-Lago, he's always hanging out. He's always hanging out. He's always hanging out. Yeah. He's a, what do you call it? Groupie. He's a Trump groupie. A Trump groupie. A kiss ass.
Starting point is 02:16:12 How about, oh, here's one off the wall. How about, how about the, what's his name? The general, the, the Q guy. Flynn? Flynn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Flynn? Flynn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Flynn. Oh no, he's been disgraced. Mark Robinson, that's who I'm thinking about.
Starting point is 02:16:33 This guy. Yeah, that guy, Mark Robinson. This guy. He's a character. This guy. Fantastic, fantastic. How's everybody doing? Good.
Starting point is 02:16:41 Very first thing we're going to do is always we're going to give thanks to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Are there reporters in this room somewhere? I? Can't see through the light. It's the mainstream media here If you're here, I want you to hear this hear me. I don't care what you say about me I don't care what you say about me. I don't care what you do in your newsroom. I don't care about your plans and your schemes to bring this nation down with your democratic friends. Why?
Starting point is 02:17:11 Because Jesus Christ is still on the throne. That guy. So this is why you like him. That guy, that guy. I like that guy. That's my pick. Well, he's not getting it, so you might as well give up on that. The other possibilities, there's a couple of the, you know,
Starting point is 02:17:30 Kristi Noem, we had talked about this on the Peter table. She took herself out wisely. She wisely took herself out. A lot of people don't realize that until you tell them. That's the reason for the dog story. So she's done. And is there any other women that could possibly be picked? Tulsi. Tulsi. Tulsi's not on the short list. Tulsi's on my short list. No one, Pence wasn't on anybody's list either. I agree.
Starting point is 02:18:01 Nobody came in out of the blue. No one knew about Pence. No, there's no indication he was supposed to be in the room. Well, they all were in the room. Well, Tulsi wasn't. Was Tulsi in the room? I don't think so. No, Tulsi wasn't in the room because Tulsi is not being considered. Was that other guy in the room? Hello? Was Robinson in the room? That's my guy right there. No, he's not in the room. On the separation of church and state for a moment, CBS had this report. Looking at the First Amendment, although I think it's a great idea, I don't think that the state, was that Alabama or Tennessee, who wants to, Louisiana, who want to put the 10 commandments
Starting point is 02:18:45 in every classroom? I understand it, but this idea, I think is something that is interesting and could be a very interesting counter to the, and I've seen some of these books, you know, the trans and gay books that they have in the libraries now that they've been putting everywhere. This is an interesting counter to that. Oklahoma State School Superintendent Ryan Walters directed public schools to use the Bible as a teaching tool for students in fifth through 12th grade
Starting point is 02:19:16 when they're being taught history or civilization and its influence on the US constitution. Walters said the state may supply teaching materials at taxpayer expense, adding strict compliance is expected. I've been reading this thing called that someone gave me this, the Founder's Bible, which Critics say Walters can't use state money to buy Bibles and expect his move to be challenged in court. I've been reading this thing called, someone gave me this, the Founder's Bible, which has all these historical documents from the founding of the country, the original, the pilgrims and all these writings from all of our, the signage of the declaration, the constitution. There's some valid points there as a historical document. It's pretty good. Well, I will tell you this. So when I was at Cal and I was taking,
Starting point is 02:20:17 I think it was probably a junior, maybe, or I might have been a senior, and I was taking a seminar from Winthrop Jordan, very famous writer, he had the National Book have been a senior. And I was taking a seminar from Winthrop Jordan, very famous writer, he had the National Book Award for a book, just came out as he was giving the seminar, it's called A White Over Black, very famous book, National Book Award winner. And he just made an offhanded comment because I was majoring in history.
Starting point is 02:20:41 He says, you can't understand American history unless you read the Bible cover to cover. And his book wasn't about the Bible, it was about race relations, pre-Civil War race relations. But that comment always stuck with me as, well, you know, there's probably some truth to that and people who, you know, poo poo like you for example, just promoting it from a religious perspective. Wrong. To consider it as a... Wrong.
Starting point is 02:21:10 I should... Okay, let me finish. Don't, don't, don't... Let me finish, let me finish, my point. Don't throw that at me. Let me finish my, I'm not, I'm just telling you, it seems so. So, cause for example,
Starting point is 02:21:23 that clip you played of that character in North Carolina, there are better clips than that one. That's the only one I could get right off. There was an old clip from three weeks ago. So the point is, is that the Bible is not a neutralized, meaningless, religious-only text. If you're studying American history, you could do worse, at least to help you understand some of the stuff that goes on to read the Bible. I don't think it's a big deal to do that, and I think mentioning that Bible that you discussed might actually be a good thing. That's my point, is I didn't say it for any religious or faith-based reasons.
Starting point is 02:22:04 Well, I know, but your point is well taken. I'm just saying it seems to me that you're catering to your religious followers. Well, no, no. I specifically said the Founder's Bible, which relates all these documents. Yeah, I know, I'm saying that's probably a good book. So I'm talking as an American about the founding of America, exactly what that smart guy said who you took the course from. Yes, that's why I was agreeing with you.
Starting point is 02:22:33 I'm in a total agreement with you. I don't know why you're attacking me. I'm not attacking. You said that I did that just for my followers, for my religious followers. Yeah, I don't virtue signal, bro. I'm telling it like it is, it's a good version. It has a lot of interesting texts from the founding documents,
Starting point is 02:22:53 and you can see where they got it from, because they quote the Bible. It's a historical document. I think that's a very valid thing to do. We agree on that. Yeah, so I don't think the Oklahoma thing is a bad thing, unless it's taught as a lesser teaching religion, which is not the idea.
Starting point is 02:23:09 No. It's to use the Bible as a basis for understanding. Yeah, that's exactly what I agree with. So we have an election coming up in the UK on the 4th of July. Interesting date for them to choose that. And already there's lots of, well, first of all, people are so, I guess they're apathetic about it. They were like, oh, well, labor's going to win. They're going to give the government back to the labor party.
Starting point is 02:23:39 Nigel Farage is out there with his, what is it, the Freedom Party? I think it's a Reform Party or the new, he created a new party and he's got lots of traction. That guy, I wanna just make a, just kind of a side comment here. Reform Party, that's what it is. Yeah, the Reform Party. So we had spotted Nigel Farage probably 12 years ago,
Starting point is 02:24:04 13 years ago in this show as a character that was worth following because he had these great speeches at the Parliament. Yeah. And we got note after note from our Brits saying this guy's of no gonna go nowhere You guys are idiots. You shouldn't be paying any attention to him at all Well, let's see 15 almost 15 years later You guys are idiots. You shouldn't be paying any attention to him at all. Well, let's see 15, almost 15 years later, this guy's still very important. We happened to be on top of it. Remember when they tried to kill him in the plane crash? Do remember that.
Starting point is 02:24:38 Yeah, it didn't work. You've been around. So anyway, Channel 4 did this, this massive hit piece on them. They went undercover and they discovered there's all kinds of racists in his party. We've gone undercover inside Nigel Farage's Reform UK campaign in Clapton and we recorded extremely offensive language, including this canvasser saying people seeking asylum should be shot. Get the young folks there, yeah, with guns on the f***ing beach, target practice, f***ing shit.
Starting point is 02:25:08 Racist language was repeatedly used, here directed at the Prime Minister Rishi Sunak. F***ing illegal, what's good is it? And homophobia from Farage's inner circle. You see that f***ing flag on the front, on it? What the old Bill doing coming out of his mouth? My object is for us to become the voice of opposition. He's promised a political revolution. Nigel Farage claims to speak for the forgotten many, the self-styled leader of the People's Army.
Starting point is 02:25:43 They've opened up the borders to mass immigration like we've never seen before. This is the image Reform UK wants to portray, and yet some of the party's candidates have been accused of racism and extremism. So the guy that you... Wow! I'm going to give you a borderline clip of the day for digging that one up. Wow. That is so unexpected that I didn't even have it ready. To the least. Wow.
Starting point is 02:26:10 But the fact that they'd run a hit piece on him. I mean, you can go to the Democrat party and I mean, O'Keefe does this all the time. I mean, you can go to any group and it's like the man on the street interviews. You can make everyone sound like idiots. You can make everyone sound like idiots. You can make everyone sound like geniuses. You can do whatever you want. This is all manipulation. Well, sure. I'm sure there's more than a few racists who hate Sunak and there's plenty of racism in the Democrat party here and the Republican party here and,
Starting point is 02:26:42 and in the Black Lives Matter people say, I mean, you can't get away from it. But to create a phony baloney hit piece based on this gambling going on, surprise is bull crap. It's even better than that. You've seen the news, a massive row, a reform UK canvasser uses racist slurs against the prime minister and a large chunk of the population. Isn't it terrible? Facts. He is an actor, even though he denied it when he was questioned over it first thing this morning. Fact. He has a website on which he advertises things such as undercover filming. He is, by all accounts, a very well-spoken man whose alter ego is speaking cockney.
Starting point is 02:27:26 Well, when I met him on Saturday, he was speaking cockney when he walked in first thing in the morning. The whole thing was an act from the very beginning. He's also done work for Channel 4 in the past. If you can't see it, well, I can certainly see it. I'm sure you can too. This is a complete and utter setup Determined to damage the revolt which is the rise in the reform UK vote
Starting point is 02:27:51 Don't listen to a word of it join the revolt so Because it was a canvasser this wasn't someone actually in his party It's just some blowhard who was out there yelling all this and turns out he was a shill for Channel 4 Sure, that makes sense. Well done going on too much by the way Lohard who was out there yelling all this and it turns out he was a shill for channel four Sure, that makes sense. Well, this is going on too much by the way And I will just say this thing what he said. He said Pocky Is Sunaka is he Pakistan? Oh Pocky P a K I pocket Pakistani. Yeah Dude, you could it's a slur in in the UK Yeah, but you can talk to anyone in the UK and after three minutes, the word Pocky comes up.
Starting point is 02:28:29 Yeah. I don't want to say that the Brits are racist, but they're kind of racist. But they've always been racist. What else is new? Hello Great Britain, thanks for your support. They have, they always kind of have been racist. I guess it's true They're They do have a
Starting point is 02:28:53 Immigration issue going on there is they'd problematic problematic. Oh, yeah. Well, especially because they're an island I mean, let's be honest about that. Sorry about that Goldman's I want to switch to AI just keeping on that because I'm waiting for the big short. Someone's going to walk away rich, not going to be us. Goldman Sachs comes out and says, return on investment for AI might be disappointing. Now, does a statement from Goldman like that, does that carry any weight in the investment world? Do you think that makes a difference?
Starting point is 02:29:30 Well, don't forget Goldman's the one during the 2006 era and before and back and forth, keep predicting, oil's going to $200, never does. Yeah, that's true. So Goldman is kind of a misdirection operation in a lot of ways. I get people to, I don't know what they're trying to do, but they, you don't know. You never know what they, I mean, I take their stuff with a grain of salt, but I think they're accurate with that analysis for sure.
Starting point is 02:29:58 AI technology is exceptionally expensive and to justify those costs, the technology might be able to solve complex problems, which it isn't designed to do," Jim Covello, the head of global equity research at Goldman Sachs said in their report. The starting point for cost is also so high that even if cost declined, they would have to do so dramatically to make automating tasks with AI affordable. In our experience, even basic summarization tasks often yield illegible and nonsensical results. Yeah, that's what he's referring to, of course,
Starting point is 02:30:32 is creating abstracts from large documents. Yes. And having, instead of doing it, having a person do it, which you can do, have a person, they read the thing, and they summarize. To have the AI do it, good luck. Yeah. Just pay a person a trillion dollars.
Starting point is 02:30:49 I'm always looking though for, for uses for AI where it actually does something and, you know, instead of just a funny, funny pictures and, and term papers and, and flowery words and, you know, this. Yeah. And long introductions that are unnecessary, which I think is the number one giveaway. Someone sent me an email the other day that he wrote with AI and then it came up with,
Starting point is 02:31:12 in the middle, like, I've always admired you for how you were on your Honda motorcycle touring the country and I liked that you're a ham radio operator, had a completely wrong call sign. I was like, why did you write that letter in AI to me? Um, here's, so here's Bloomberg and they're talking about the new, uh, is it Corvive, is that the new chip, the next Nvidia chip? I don't know what they're called.
Starting point is 02:31:40 Well, apparently they're called expensive. That's expensive. Apparently it can do computational fluid dynamics. And Bloomberg found a solution. Finally, we can use these expensive power hungry chips for Formula One. The new Nvidia chips, the GB200s, what will those do for CoreWeave? They are going to open up a lot of both training and inference use cases in the AI side that I think our customers have been blocked by with the existing generation in that you're now able to link 72 of these GPUs together to work
Starting point is 02:32:23 almost as one unit. And previously that was limited to eight. They have a much larger, what's called a frame buffer, which is how much memory that's usable for their matrix operations. So I think that we're going to see a lot of new use cases show up for this stuff, but I think it extends well beyond AI as well. And it's going to be a lot more useful for things like scientific computing. One of the things that has me really excited is the computational fluid dynamics.
Starting point is 02:32:51 And I'm specifically thinking about the uses for that in F1 under the new regulation in 2026. I'm excited for the new platform. I think in a year and a half, people are going to be using it for things that are different than anybody expects today. And that's to me, the pace at which this is changing is the piece that's really cool. Wait, I'm sorry. I hate sports.
Starting point is 02:33:12 What's the F1 2026 thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And explain how the Nvidia is. Yeah. So the F1 platform, they have very tight restrictions around what type of compute and how much compute you can use to do aerodynamic testing in your cars. And you can either do real life testing in a wind tunnel or you can do it through CFD analysis.
Starting point is 02:33:30 And the regulations around the existing program in F1 are they're only able to use CPUs. They have very specific limitations around it, but there's been a lot of talk of that changing for the 2026 car models. And I'm gung ho excited about possibly supporting that. Oh, gung-ho excited. That's a trillion dollar investment. Gung-ho excited. Gung-ho excited.
Starting point is 02:33:52 I didn't understand what he was talking about. He's talking about designing the car using AI. Computational fluid dynamics, baby. Which I think you could use. Which he was referring to the wind tunnel testing being done without a wind tunnel. Yeah. So you could have a design a car and the AI supposedly, or section of the AI is just those
Starting point is 02:34:12 GPUs could design, move something left and right. So, but that's not even, you know, that's the point. It's not even AI. So this is the best they can come up with, with CoreWeave. Oh, we can make Formula One cars go faster. Okay. And then the viral clip this week regarding AI came from the CEO of Microsoft AI, Mustafa Suleyman. Oh yeah, I'm glad you got his clip. This is worth discussing.
Starting point is 02:34:47 With respect to content that is already on the open web, the social contract of that content since the 90s has been that it is fair use. Anyone can copy it, recreate with it, reproduce with it. That has been freeware, if you like. That's been the understanding. There's a separate category where a website or a publisher or a news organization had explicitly said, do not scrape or crawl me
Starting point is 02:35:10 for any other reason than indexing me so that other people can find that content. That's a gray area and I think that's gonna work its way through the courts. John, I think we both have some experience. Yeah, no. In copyright, maybe you wanna weigh in on this one? Everything that's on the web is copyrighted.
Starting point is 02:35:31 Everything that people produce is copyrighted. And to get to the point of fair use, which we push the boundaries on because we take clips, it has to be used for some other reason other than its original intent. So for example, we can take a clip from NBC, but we're not using it to present it as the news clip that it was originally. We use it to either, you know, to deconstruct the clip, educate the public.
Starting point is 02:35:58 It's a different use. It's a use that's different and it's not a lot. It's a very small percentage of the original, and it's all legal. To take the entire web, which he implies, the entire thing is all public domain and all fair use is bull crap. But where does he get this idea? This is going to be used against him in a court of law.
Starting point is 02:36:22 This statement, in fact. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. He's going to get burned by. This statement, in fact. And just so you know, that's what I'm saying. He's going to get burned by what he did that clip. Every single MP3 we release has in its ID3 tags a copyright, no agenda, LLC. I have sued corporations under the, and in fact, I set jurisprudence suing a publisher,
Starting point is 02:36:45 a large publisher in the Netherlands for taking my pictures off of Flickr. Yeah, you can't do that. Which I'd published under Creative Commons, which was a distribute share alike, no commercial, and they lost and I won. And I'm still hoping for the day they do it again, because then I get to charge them 5,000 euros
Starting point is 02:37:04 for every copy for every day it's in again, because then I get to charge them 5,000 euros for every copy. For every day it's in circulation. But that's an exit strategy right there. Yeah, that's not happening. No, that's not happening. But I just thought it was, what a horrible take from that guy. Well, he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. And Microsoft has a team, a huge team of legal experts
Starting point is 02:37:27 that he should have at least consulted before he made that comment that everything on the web is free of fair use. Are you kidding me? He said it's freeware under the social contract. Yeah, freeware. And I should mention, you said you put, we put the copyright notice on it,
Starting point is 02:37:43 and people still do that, but that is actually... Not even needed. You don't even have to do it. As of a number of years ago, and I don't remember when, but it's probably 20 years ago, it turns out that anything you publish, whether you put the copyright notice on it or not, is copyrighted. Just by law, it's copyrighted, just by law it's copyrighted. And this kind of stems from the early days of copyright
Starting point is 02:38:08 when you actually had to produce a copy and you had to apply for a copyright, had to apply for a copyright, then you had to send a copy to the Library of Congress. Yep. It's like in the 1800s or 1900s, some very long ago. And that became such a pain in the ass because people were copywriting everything.
Starting point is 02:38:27 And they said, screw that. We don't want to get all these copies. And so then the copyright laws changed and changed. And now it's like everything's copyrighted. Get over it. Wasn't there at some point- Unless you say otherwise. At some point, I remember someone saying, if you have an idea or you
Starting point is 02:38:42 write something, you should print it out, put an envelope and put it in the mail to yourself. Yeah, I remember that. Was that true? I've done that. I don't know if it's true or not. I always liked that. Oh, that sounds good. It's just to prove that you're right. You just, this is for when you develop an idea or a patent. Yeah, it's postmarked.
Starting point is 02:39:01 You want to get the date earlier. And so you mail it to yourself and then you can take it to a court of law. Now, just somebody steals your idea. Now what we do like and, and always, we've always said this is a good idea. We'd like you to freely distribute the No Agenda Show in any manner you can.
Starting point is 02:39:20 Yeah, put it on your own website. Yeah, we've always said that's okay. Yeah, as long as it's in its entirety. Yes. Which means the donation segments. Yeah, some people have, for a while there we were on some radio station and someone went through the trouble of bleeping out all the cuss words, which at the time I was quite prone to do.
Starting point is 02:39:42 Didn't last long, they got tired of it. This show is just one big beep. Yeah. Well, we probably cuss too much. No, not that much anymore. Well, for a radio. Oh, for a radio. Yeah. We all, all kinds of stuff. We can't say. Little bird flu updates besides Finland being the first country to offer vaccination for human beings. They're kicking that off. We have an update. Let's see, where did this come from? I think this might be ABC.
Starting point is 02:40:17 The state of Michigan making inroads in the fight to contain the H5N1 strain of bird flu after once leading the nation and detected outbreaks. The State's Department of Health now working with farms to assess the risk and infection in dairy farm workers. Board certified emergency room Dr. Michael Danio has been out front on the bird flu and he joins us now with more. Always good to have you. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:40:41 Good evening. Let's talk more about how these tests in Michigan, how they're working on both dairy workers and milk products. So what's great is that Michigan had the highest number of outbreaks. And they offered farms $28,000 to participate in CDC research, which is great. It's given the farm a lot of money to do testing, take care of what they need.
Starting point is 02:41:01 And what they're going to do is blood tests of the farm workers to see if they have the antibody to the H5N1, the bird flu virus, because they wanna see if there's some sort of asymptomatic spread that's passing from farm worker to farm worker. Because like I mentioned last week, a lot of these herds are closed herds.
Starting point is 02:41:18 There's not a lot of movement of cattle between the herds. So the suspicion that we need to rule out to make sure that it's not being spread asymptomatically, because the farm workers are moving from herd to herd. They go from ranch to ranch, for example. So that's data that the CDC is just starting. And it's good to see this. It's good to see them on top of this. We need to be doing more of this. I'm glad we can report on this that things are happening finally. Yeah, things are happening. Oh, yeah. Can we get to a pandemic? Come on, boys. Do some work here. Remember Redfield said, former CDC director. Oh, no. Next bird flu is going to come from the lab from gain of function. Well, that's what McCullough says too. This is already working on. That's where the Mallards got it. is now recommending everyone age six months and older, hurry now, don't wait while stocks last,
Starting point is 02:42:06 get an updated 2024, 2025 COVID-19 vaccine. And I'm just thinking, you know, if you really wanted to do something with bird flu, the one thing we know about the vaccine, the one thing we know for sure, I think you will agree with me, everyone who got the vaccine definitely got COVID. Seems so.
Starting point is 02:42:29 So what if you put, just put a little bird flu proteins in there, little spikes. Well, there's precedent for this. Aha. Now we had it on the show. There's probably a clip, but if you could find it, probably you can't find it.
Starting point is 02:42:40 Maybe you can. This one of the vaccine manufacturers during the swine flu epidemic pandemic of some years ago was distributing a swine flu vaccine with live swine flu viruses in the vaccine. They were caught and shut down, but this was going on and it created swine flu outbreaks here and there out of the blue. Let me see if this is the one. It is one of the greatest medical scandals of the century according to a leading health expert in Brussels. The council of Europe health chief has accused major pharmaceutical firms of organizing a campaign of panic and
Starting point is 02:43:22 unduly influencing world health organization decisions and with European countries now Burdened with bills for millions of unwanted doses of the swine flu vaccine. He wants an investigation Our science correspond maybe not I don't know if that's the one that's probably not it but it's similar Scenario, but yeah. Yes. There was one company. I can't remember the name of them people somebody could look it up and find it That was distributing swine flu via the vaccine. Yes, the way to get the bird flu thing going is to put bird flu in the swine flu. Bird flu into the COVID vaccine. I don't know if it's even illegal to suggest that they might do this because it seems like
Starting point is 02:44:01 you're creating- We're just kooky, We're just podcasters. Pay no attention to us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually have a second half of a show, crazy clip. But I wouldn't put it past them. Well, that would take care of the mail-in ballots, wouldn't it? For the Republicans this time.
Starting point is 02:44:27 Well, something. A little update. I do have a second half of show clip we can play. Now entering second half of show. All right. Second half. You know about the monolith. There's the PBS report. Oh, goodness. The monolith is back. New location. And a new chapter in an unsolved mystery.
Starting point is 02:44:46 Las Vegas police said they removed a tall monolith from a remote part of the Nevada desert. They said the six foot four structure was a public safety and environmental hazard. Just how it got there is anybody's guess. It's the latest in a series of mysterious monolith placements around the world since 2020, including in the Democratic Republic of Congo and in Turkey. The Nevada monolith, made of sheet metal, rebar and concrete, is being held at an undisclosed
Starting point is 02:45:14 location. Police are trying to figure out how to best store it or dispose of it. The hoax here is the term monolith. What exactly is a monolith supposed to be? This is just a thing. It's from the movie. Oh, what movie? You know, Space Odyssey.
Starting point is 02:45:31 Now- Oh, okay, yes. Yeah, that's where it's from. But this monolith, how is it a safety? It's out in the middle of nowhere. Have to remove it. Nobody even knows how long it's been there. It's been set up and left there and there it is.
Starting point is 02:45:45 And somebody discovered it. Now it's some sort of a safety hazard. Safety hazard for what? Low flying planes? There's only six foot four of this monolith. I don't know. I really don't know. A prediction of yours coming true in an odd sort of way.
Starting point is 02:46:02 Developing right now, a double murder suspect spending their first night in jail after this tense scene played out in the St. George neighborhood. Multiple homeowners capturing this moment. The suspect was taken into custody after an hours long manhunt. In the last 90 minutes, we have obtained the jail documents identifying the two people killed. They are, as neighbors told us earlier, the suspect's own parents. St. George police arrested the suspect about eight miles from the Washington home where
Starting point is 02:46:30 the shooting happened. New special, Salix Cabrera, live in the neighborhood where the manhunt ended. And Alex, you have been looking over those new documents here. What are you learning tonight? Yeah, according to those court documents, Mike and Dini, the victims in this case are Gail and Joseph Bailey, who are the parents of the suspect Mia Bailey, and that they were shot several times. Also, according to that court paperwork, Bailey told police there was no remorse and that, quote, I would do it again.
Starting point is 02:46:59 I hate them. Neighbors say the two people killed were Bailey's parents and that there were issues between the parents and Bailey about Bailey's transition from a man to a woman. There was already volatility and bad vibes going with within the family. Police are still investigating the exact motive. Either way, this neighborhood is now back to normal.
Starting point is 02:47:23 I'm telling you, this is how it starts. Well, the people that got him to transition, don't remember which way it went, but they're the ones that should be liable. Yeah. Fat chance. There's two, it's going to happen. Oh yeah. Not in this case, but it will. I agree with you. Not in that case, but it's going to happen eventually. You're going to have two things happen. One, the parents are going to get charged. I still believe the parents are dead, John. They can't get charged. They're dead.
Starting point is 02:47:55 No, I'm saying I'm talking about crime, the transition, these kids that were with the parents aren't dead. I mean, whether the parents are dead, if they're not dead, they're going to get charged. So maybe being dead is not a bad option. This is not going to work out. This is going to be a disaster. Yeah. It doesn't seem like a lot of these kids are happy.
Starting point is 02:48:18 None of them are. Final clip for me before we go into our last break, we got cool meetup reports coming and of a nighting and some birthdays. And finally, Joe Biden's climate envoy, it's an envoy now, it used to be czar, but now it's an envoy. John Podesta, who doesn't know him from the WikiLeaks, and he's uncloking. The realities of the climate crisis have never been clearer and our ability to address those realities has never been greater.
Starting point is 02:48:52 2023 of course was the hottest year on record. Of course. July of 2023 was the hottest month on record. Ever. And every month since has been the hottest ever recorded on the planet. You're on the planet. Experts say 2024 is on track to be even hotter than last year. And it's already having profound consequences around the world and especially for the most vulnerable communities.
Starting point is 02:49:21 We know something is terribly wrong with our planet. The string of calamities is no fluke. It is the climate crisis and it's costing us big. We still have a lot of work to do to ensure a safe future for humanity and we have to move fast and at scale. I like to quote the IPCC in their 2018 report on 1.5 degrees C. We need a transformation of the global economy on a size and scale that's never occurred in human history. That's a tall order, the one we can accomplish. We can do it. We can do it.
Starting point is 02:50:00 A couple of things I have to ask you. Why would you change from czar to envoy? Why would you do that? A, and why would this joker take this job? This is like beneath him. He's a money guy. He goes where the money is. But for him, there's no money for him.
Starting point is 02:50:23 Oh, come on. Come on. I'm sure he's got all kinds of deals going in the background. And you get to hang out, you get to take the jet, you get to have fancy dinners, you get to be big man on campus. This guy's an egomaniac. Well, I believe he's an egomaniac, but when he was running campaigns and really having an effect as opposed to being a public BS artist, which he is now with that nonsense that he just spewed.
Starting point is 02:50:52 It's got to be, I think it's a letdown. I don't know how he can live with himself. Well, I think you and I should be envoys. Yeah. And then you could be the right honorable John C. Dvorak. Could happen. Anything for you? Yeah the right honorable John C. Dvorak. Could happen. Anything for you? Yeah, I got a couple of ones.
Starting point is 02:51:09 Let me just do, I have a, I always have these TikTok things backed up, but I actually, I'm going to skip that and I want to play this. The EU is going after Microsoft to gouge them. And I think that's a good thing because, you know, these companies, American companies, we're not being run properly. And so we're leaving ourselves open to being ripped off by the EU because they don't like the fact that we're so dominant over there. So let's go EU versus Microsoft to keep up. The EU is now targeting Microsoft over antitrust concerns.
Starting point is 02:51:43 It says Microsoft illegally includes Microsoft Teams with Microsoft Office. Teams is a video communication platform that people use to collaborate. The European Commission says including teams with other popular programs like Word and Excel gives it an unfair advantage. Microsoft faces a potential fine
Starting point is 02:52:02 of up to 10% of its global revenue. This is a money grab, a power hungry money grab. That's it. When regulators see money and they want to shake it loose, they cannot wait to. Financial analyst Vijay Muralia says the move will harm the EU in the long run because it drives away businesses. Businesses could leave because all of the regulations and the risk of potential lawsuits. 10% of a revenue stream, revenue stream is not the bottom line. So the revenue is what you pay all the bills with.
Starting point is 02:52:35 Well, what is to stop them from just not doing business in the EU? The investigations began when competitors Slack and Alphaview complained about the software bundling. Both companies say they welcome the commission's move. Microsoft president Brad Smith says the company will quote, work to find solutions to address the commission's remaining concerns. That's weird.
Starting point is 02:52:58 I get a kick out of like Slack bitching about it. Aren't they part of Salesforce or? Yeah. You know, there's the same thing. It's bundled with the product. They already made their money. Everybody got it. Everyone made dynamite money on that acquisition.
Starting point is 02:53:14 That's weird. Well, it's that Margareta woman in the EU. That's her whole job is to, is to soak money. Gouge American companies. I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda. Imagine all. Gouge American companies. And John's going to thank the people who came in $50 and above. If there's something we need to read, we will gladly read it, but typically we don't. It'll be name and location. But we thank everybody for going to noagendadonations.com
Starting point is 02:53:50 and supporting the show, supporting the work, which we do twice a week on Sundays and Thursdays. Yeah, we started with, you know, this first line 18546, when I was opening the spreadsheet, I blanked out the guy's name. Yeah, I don't have it either. Maybe it's not on here. I don't have anyone there. So whoops, whoops, whoops.
Starting point is 02:54:10 Oh man. It's just a blank man. Mr. Blank Man. And now you've done something very bad. So I'll thank James. I did. What I did, I can fix it real quick. What I did was I hit a key to look, see if I can recover that name.
Starting point is 02:54:25 And in the process I made the spreadsheet minuscule, which is not what I wanted. I can't read it, it's too small. What key? Okay, well there's somebody that came in 18546 and we don't know who it is. So you can send us a note, we'll give you a credit later. James, what is this?
Starting point is 02:54:42 James Geeting in Addison, Texas. He came in with 168.50. He says, one of the few podcasts worth listening to these days. Oh, thank you. Amanda Glenn and Gilroy, 100. Joe Dirk, I guess in Amsterdam, Holland, 96.26. He's, he has call letters, W0BO.
Starting point is 02:55:10 No, I think this is the name of the meetup in Amsterdam on July 6th, the Wobbo meetup. Oh, could be. I have no idea what Wobbo means. He said 73's W-O-B-O. Oh, I don't see 73's anyway. No, it's because it was on the note. It wasn't. Oh, well that's not a Dutch call sign.
Starting point is 02:55:27 It would be Papa, Papa Hotel, Papa. Michael Goleon in Rockford, Illinois, 8836. Got a happy birthday call out. Sally Adomo in Palm City, Florida, 8008 needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched. It's also a Rogan donation. Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina. 8008 of course, he's the Archduke of Luna and lover of American boobs. Eric Adler. 8008, boobs for him. Franklin Monteroza in Dodge City, he's in Dodge City, Kansas, 8008.
Starting point is 02:56:19 He wants housekeeper karma. So we'll give you that, whatever that means at the end. Maybe Schwarzenegger knows about that. Well, you know, it's the housekeeper. You should be working in the house. That's what the kicker said. The kicker said, Oh, the housekeeper. I get it. His wife, your wife is a good wife. She's a housekeeper. Dana Carroll in Lawton, Nevada, 7227.
Starting point is 02:56:43 Anonymous, 7192 at the birthday callout. Matthew Martel is in the cognac in Brumel, Pennsylvania, $70.26. He says, due to the overwhelming success of the Bongino coupon code campaign, that's where he got his savings. It sent us the money. You know, one of these days Bon Gino is going to find out about this. Listen to this whole thing. He says, help me help you visit martellhardware.com use code six handicap for an additional 10% off.
Starting point is 02:57:20 Hey, bad idea supply. Follow me back on Instagram. What is going on here? I don't know. Code Bungie. No. Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana, 6502. That's a chip. James Buell in Vista, California, 6006. Small boobs. Dame Stephanie in Chandler, Arizona, 6006. And it's a birthday call out for her, for my loving husband, Sir Don. Oh, she says, love you, baby. Sorry, I missed the shout on on 627.
Starting point is 02:57:52 Ah, good woman. Brian Dennell in Omaha, Nebraska, 5555. Brock Bradshaw, 5307, he's a D-douche-ing. You've been D-douche been deduced. Oh that's Brock. Brock used to be your UPS driver. I wonder if that's who I think it is. Yeah well he's no longer a UPS driver. I have not seen Brock I always wondered. Now if I recall this guy he used to be our UPS driver forever and Mimi always spotted him because he would show up. He's one of these ridiculously, at least, I mean, he got older, but I would say in the 90s,
Starting point is 02:58:35 he was a ridiculously good looking guy. And he would go and be delivering stuff. And then all of a sudden the truck would be parked somewhere. It's like a policeman have what's called a beat wife. Yeah. It's not a wife they beat. It's a girl that while they're on duty, they'll stop in and the cop call me in front of the house. Hey baby, I'm here. Wanna see my gun?
Starting point is 02:58:59 So every once in a while, the delivery was almost like clockwork came at three would come at 7pm. And the guy always looked like he was beaten. He looked like he was worn out. Long time, long day, long day at the office, dear. He's probably doing, he's probably doing bit parts in the Hollywood now. Yeah, he probably could. Um, I'm glad he listens.
Starting point is 02:59:28 You know these guys who deliver the package and keep saying no agenda or something. UPS special delivery, man. Zachary Metzinger. Oh, this is the guy. This is N0ZGO in South Lake, Texas. That's the guy who came up with 73s. Yeah, there you go. Okay, and $50.33. Scott Nelson in Council Bluffs, Iowa, 50.01 is the check.
Starting point is 02:59:58 Now we got the $50 donors. We don't have a lot of donors today. But hopefully on July the 4th coming up, we have the July the fourth weekends, weekend special have two great shows and people all chip in to be patriotic. Zev green and Teaneck New Jersey 50, uh, in Naki Esparza, Elorriaga, Elorriaga, Elorriaga. There it is. El Oriaga in Mexico.
Starting point is 03:00:26 I think it's Mexico City. Hello, Mexico City. Leif Thompson in Meridian, Idaho. David Steele in Mobile, Alabama. Justin Kaler in Bluffton, Indiana. Anna Balls in Whitetown, Indiana. Brian Sharp in Huntsville, Alabama. Hold, hold on a second. I gotta read this because... Oh yeah, she gets updated or she gets... this is a switcheroo actually.
Starting point is 03:00:52 With a nighting for her husband. ITM Jensen noticed a while back my layaway donation had earned night status, a gift I've been donating towards for my smoking hot husband Kevin Balls with 1L. But since then I've been struggling to get him to tell me what he wants to be known as at the round table. He finally caved and wishes to be knighted Sir Endeavor. He just wants the usual, no frills, but he'd sure appreciate a how do you pronounce that? A yungling? Is that a yungling black and tan? A yungling black and tan? A Jungling black and tan? Is that a beer? Oh, Jungling, yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:26 That's a Chinese beer, I think. A Jungling. Jungling black and tan to accompany the mutton and mead. Time to work towards my own dame status. How about that? That's a good housekeeper. Giving away the knighthood to her man first. Thanks for all you do and four more years.
Starting point is 03:01:43 Yes, good housekeeper, good housekeeper. Housekeeper. Brian Sharp in Huntsville, Alabama. I said Brandon Locklear and, excuse me. Oh man. Two more years. Brandon Locklear in Sugar Hill, Georgia and Sir Pierre is last on the list.
Starting point is 03:02:02 He's in Farmington, Connecticut, $50. And he came in with a Stripe contribution. And I want to say, mention something. We had this whole group. We have two people that donated via Stripe. After listening to all the complaining, so he put Stripe on there and nobody uses it. Just to point that out.
Starting point is 03:02:20 So there you go. Some people use it. There's a couple. Two, we had two. Two, all right, it's two. Thank you go. Well, some people use it. Two. We had two. Two. All right. It's two.
Starting point is 03:02:28 Thank you to all these donors who came in. $50 and above. Again, thank you to the executive and associate executive producer for episode 1673. You are all producers. We thank those producers under 50 who are there for reasons of anonymity and these sustaining donations very important to us. Please, whatever the show is worth to you, support us with that amount. Do it on a regular basis.
Starting point is 03:02:47 Do it monthly. Do whatever it is. As long as you're contributing back, you will sleep peacefully knowing that you are also producing the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the universe. Karma as requested. Also a special health karma for Darren O'Neill's father-in-law, Steve Ceziga, who had a heart attack and is having bypass surgery this week. So we certainly want him to feel much better and do well and I'm praying for him and thank you to all who supported the No
Starting point is 03:03:16 Agenda Show. You've got karma. NoAgendaDonations.com It's your birthday, birthday On NoAgendaDonations.com And there we have anonymous who wishes her smoking hot husband a happy birthday. He turns 32 on July 1st on behalf of her and the two human resources. Ralph Habeguer wishes his fiance Christina a very happy birthday. She's turning 33. Dame Stephanie says, Stephanie says, happy birthday to her loving husband,
Starting point is 03:03:46 Sir Don of Chandler, and Matthew Golean is celebrating. We say happy birthday from everybody here at The Best, podcasting the universe. And we do have that one nighting for Kevin Ball. So let's bring out the blade. His housekeeper donated this knighthood. So a housekeeper
Starting point is 03:04:09 Kevin You better be hugging that wife of yours, man. She's a good one. She's a keeper Thanks to her support of a thousand dollars as a layaway knight giving it to you I am very proud to pronounce the KV as Sir Endeavor Knight of the Noah generalGender Roundtable for you. By request, we have Yengling Black and Tan, along with mutton and meat, of course, but along with that, in case you're wondering what we have,
Starting point is 03:04:34 well, we have some geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla. We also have bong hits of bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils. We've got breast milk and pablum, rubanesse, wuban and rose, cowgirls and coffee barns. Very tasty would, I have a bunch of noisemakers I have not been using. Yes, I've gotten complaints. We need more noisemakers from John. Noagenderrings.com and there's a ring sizing guide there. We will send it along with our certificate of authenticity and because it's a CigNet ring,
Starting point is 03:05:18 you will get some wax that you can melt and then seal your important correspondence with it. Thank you very much to you, sir, and to your wife for becoming a knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. The No Agenda Meetups, I think there'll be a number of them this coming weekend. People like to meet each other whenever they can, whenever there's an excuse. But people just meet all the time at these meetups. You can go to NoAgendaMeetups.com. You can find your tribe, which is the NoAgenda tribe. You'd be amazed how quickly you make friends, especially if you feel like, I'm shy,
Starting point is 03:05:56 I'm not too social. Go to a meetup. You'll find people that you can connect with. And as always, connection is protection. We have Leo Bravo in Los Angeles. I think he does a meetup, it seems like every week, but it's probably every month or every two weeks. Here's the meetup they did at the Boomtown Brewery in LA. Hey everybody, it's Leo Bravo at meetup number 53. And I'm passing the phone around. My friends have things to say. Hey Adam and John, we're here at Boomtown Brewing in downtown LA.
Starting point is 03:06:28 Beautiful downtown LA. Don't leave your stuff in your car though. It is B Dizzle and I am gonna go look forward to some mushrooms later on. Say hello. It's a spam. It's a scam. I've got hairy legs.
Starting point is 03:06:42 Or Lea Kim full pop. That was pretty good. In the morning guys. Guys, in pretty good. In the morning guys. Guys in the morning. In the morning. Oh one, two, three. In the morning. That hairy legs wasn't bad.
Starting point is 03:06:50 It sounded very joish. One of the biggest meetups over a hundred people every single time they do one. Mark and Maria, Day and the Night. They organize it in Indy. Hello this is Sir Mark. And this is Day and Maria. So happy to be on the north side of Indianapolis with a marvelous gang of new agenda acolytes. We are ready for our vacation.
Starting point is 03:07:11 Woo! Hi, this is Sir Up Of The Maple. Wear sunscreen. Hi, this is Neil Zabub, and I'd like to call out douchebag Scott as a douchebag. This is Kyle from Zionsville. Thank you for an excellent product. This is Nick.
Starting point is 03:07:22 I arrive at the meetup. There's only $ dollars in my pocket I look at my car four quarters. I have five dollars. I can buy one raffle ticket I give my money to mark and guess what happens next. I lost hi. This is Dame Cindy of the Tito's Thank you for your courage Nick. Just you know, it's rigged. Hi, this is sir with a maple Whatever you do don't waste sunscreen. I'm not from Carmel. Let my people go. Fisting my nuts, still. This is Kyra from Carmel, and I'm all tatted up for Trump.
Starting point is 03:07:50 Sir Benny, I walk in this damn bar today, and this guy goes, hey, all lawyers are douchebags. I said, I think I don't like that statement. Why, are you a lawyer? No, I'm a douchebag. Good morning, John and Adam, sir, PBR Street King, and there is no evidence
Starting point is 03:08:04 that there was a rigging of the election. Dame Trinity from Fort Wayne visiting Indianapolis. Third meetup in three days. You guys gotta go to a meetup. Dame Swanee, what are they gonna shoot up Biden's ass this time? This is Dietrich from Indianapolis with President Donald J. Trump. We will make no agenda great again. Trust me, alright? Great again. It's gonna be huge.
Starting point is 03:08:27 It's gonna be great. In the morning. Hey, it's Gary from Greenwood. Notice that we had four new people. I think there's some spooks in here though. I'm Carl. And Ariel. And we just moved from Virginia, so we might be the spooks. Outer from Indianapolis. Once again, more water with this great group. Sadly, no more sports ball though. In the morning. Hey, this is Diane from Greenwood. How in the world do you follow up this? Hi, my name is Katie and we're at Blind Owl Brewery and the No Agenda people came to visit and they were absolutely lovely. Wonderful, wonderful people. In the morning, no sad puppies here. They're crazy in Indy. Let's check in with Columbus, Ohio.
Starting point is 03:09:05 In the morning, John and Ab, Sir PBR Street Gang from the Central Ohio Meetup. Giving you the tip of the day. Go to a meetup. You'll learn something. Dame Trinity having a great time in Columbus, Ohio. In the morning. In the morning. This is Eric Chaffee where I am on the lookout for elder abuse.
Starting point is 03:09:24 In the morning, you tur turkeys keep on trucking and I hope you find your exit ramp. This is Miss Flowers, the best bartender at Dempsey's having a great time with these people. Tip your bartenders folks, thank you so much. Yay! Thank you gentlemen, this is Sir Leary. I am so glad to be back here at Dempsey's
Starting point is 03:09:41 in Columbus by the way. We'll be here in four weeks. I love it when they bring in the, uh, the, the bartenders. That's always good. Final meetup report from Kansas city. Hello. Sir Spencer Wolf of Kansas city here with the latest KC meetup report. We're out here with some old friends and new friends enjoying some
Starting point is 03:10:00 M.A.M.J. Jones books in the some, some summertime. This is Dr. Sir Otter of the Flatwater in the morning. Hey, it's Lee coming from all the way from the Wyandotte. This is Sir C. Mike at the Wyandotte antidote to large amygdala. And hey, JCD, it's 91 in the shade, but I'm almost still in my first shirt.
Starting point is 03:10:19 We employed our slave, I mean, human resource to grill the burgers and dogs. Casey Wolf brought some amazing ribs. We're enjoying a good time. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey In the morning, Columbia represent. I made new friends at the playground. He was like having a snore sibling that was really nice. You like going to meetups? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Woo! We had some fun out here today.
Starting point is 03:10:59 If you wasn't here, you missed out. See y'all next time. Ah yes, nothing like some child abuse at the meetups. Very, very good. Thank you all for your reports. We have no meetups on the, actually we have one today, Longview's Lively Laugh Loaded Midsummer Meetup,
Starting point is 03:11:17 the Hangover Special. That is starting in 10 minutes in Longview, Texas at Rotolo Pizzeria. On Thursday, we have the longest standing member London meetup at 6 o'clock, the real ale way in London, that'll be London Kent, it says Bromley South East, and I think GWF did a meetup promo for us. Humble human resources of Gitmo East! A post-vote polling party meet-up on the 4th of July is occurring at the real Elway Micropub in Hayes Kent.
Starting point is 03:11:58 From 6pm till whenever you're kicked out you'll find me, Gwuf, and the London and the Southeast, Noah Jenden, Chrim de la Creme, celebrating four more years of the best podcast in the universe. Well, who can argue with that? You got to go to that meetup. There's many more on the calendar. For the fifth, it's Fremantle, Western Australia. I'd love to have a meetup from you guys on the sixth San Diego, California, also on the sixth Amsterdam, the Netherlands.
Starting point is 03:12:28 And man, that's just too many to mention. There's a lot coming up in the month of July. Of course it is the summer month. Go to noagendameetups.com. Find a meetup near you. It is where you will find your clan, your family, and as always, connection brings protection. Noagendame meetups.com. All right. Let's do some ISOs. I'm over ISOed. So let's do yours first. is like a party.
Starting point is 03:13:05 All right, let's do some ISOs. I'm over ISOed, so let's do yours first. So yeah, I have two. I have two, so you have a lot. You can win. But I have two. One is, well, here's my two first. I got nothing.
Starting point is 03:13:20 Nothing changes if nothing changes. Okay, not bad actually, not bad. And then I got another wow. Wow. Yeah, the wows, they just aren't winning lately. No, the wows, these are not good wows. All right, I'll just run through a couple, see if you like them. Period, period, period.
Starting point is 03:13:40 Yeah, I didn't think you'd like that. Here's this. I do like that one. You do like that one? How about this? Absolutely bananas No the informative and hilarious No agenda podcast Hmm, Megyn Kelly When did she say that when I was on the show someone clipped it fine. That's a long. That's an old clip
Starting point is 03:14:00 I hate sports. Hmm. Now, come on, man Come on We have this one. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Okay. That's the winner. Well, one more. One more. This is a couple of kids. See that picture? What's that in your mouth? That's cute. It's cute but it's kind of mumbly. You like this one? Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. You like that one? Yeah, I like that one.
Starting point is 03:14:28 We'll do that one then. It's not good news. It's good advice. John sees tip of the day. Time for the tip of the day, which people seem to be running away from. I got a lot of emails about the cam scanner. I don't know if you got them. People saying, no, no, it's spyware.
Starting point is 03:14:45 The current version of cam scanner doesn't have malware on it. Oh, okay. Okay. All right, well, I'm glad. It was only a short period of time where somebody slipped it in. We only cared about Jay.
Starting point is 03:14:56 We just didn't want to have Jay. Does she have an iPhone? She must have an iPhone, because the Android that has it. No, she has an Android phone, of course. Oh man, you should scan that thing. Of course. Why, what has an Android phone. Oh man, you should scan that thing. Of course. Why, what difference does it make?
Starting point is 03:15:08 Okay. You're right. If you have an Android, you got enough spyware on there from Google. Everything's spyware and an Android. So. That's right. I'm going to bring up a product,
Starting point is 03:15:18 another product people should have. And this is an old product that I've been promoting for at least 30 years. But I wanna promote it to get it out of the way so somebody said, why don't you say anything? This is a image viewer and it's a minor editor. You can do some editing with it, but nothing major. And it's called IrfanView, I-R-F-A-N-V-I-E-W.
Starting point is 03:15:44 You can just do it. IrfanView. I-R-F-A-N-V-I-E-W. You can just do IrfanView. Is this for Windows only? I believe it's only Windows. Okay. I could be wrong. I don't really care. But IrfanView is a terrific product and it's got, and you should get the plugins for it
Starting point is 03:16:01 because it will open legacy photos, legacy digital stuff, including I think it's KDF files, which a lot of systems just will not open. They refuse to deal with them. And KDF is the original, in the early days of digital photography, Kodak was actually one of the top companies. They were developing sensors and they put a couple of these sensors in a big Nikon and they started bringing out their own cameras. They had their own digital format for the photos called KDF Kodak digital format.
Starting point is 03:16:39 If you look it up, you won't even find that anymore generally. I don't know if they changed the name or they don't know what it means, but opening those old photos, you need something like IRFN view. And then you can save the file as a JPEG if you want to keep those old, uh, those old structures. But this is a terrific product. I've been using it forever and I highly recommend it. There's a, there's some file, some picture format that sometimes you get from people on an iPhone when they email it to me. It has a weird extension. I can't remember. Like,
Starting point is 03:17:12 it's not DEF or something really odd. And I, there's a bunch of new file formats that are odd. H E I C that's it. H E I C. H E I. Well, I'll tell you, Air Fan View probably has a plugin for it. I'm sure-I-C. H-E-I-C. Well, I'll tell you, Irfanview probably has a plug-in for it, I'm sure. They can open... That's the only system I've found that opens everything.
Starting point is 03:17:30 I wonder what that stands for. H-E-I-C. Well, we can look it up. We can consult the Book of Knowledge. No, why bother? Irfanview is the tip of the day, everybody! This has been your Tip of the Day. Thanks for listening. Y'all come back now, you hear? And it's free.
Starting point is 03:17:50 It's free. It's free. It's freeware. Just like Microsoft wants you to have it. Freeware, it's on the web. It's the social contract, man. Everybody should have one of those. Hey, coming up next on NoAgendaSc stream.com or in that modern podcast app Thunder
Starting point is 03:18:07 Road media and homegrown hits presents the satellite skirmish of value for value remote Royale. John, how can we not stick around to listen to that? I'm sticking around. You got to stick around for that. It's going to be good. Actually, I think it is really good. It's like some big music bonanza. Value for Value music in the value verse. And we have end of show mixes from David Ketka. We have, of course, Tom Starkweather with Alex on synths. And Professor Jay Jones from China. And I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in Fredericksburg Female region number six in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley Where we've already forgotten about the debate. I'm John C. Dvorak. Thank God for that Art everybody will be back on Thursday. Who knows what will happen by then? I'm looking forward to it
Starting point is 03:19:02 I'm looking forward to seeing you remember us at at Noagenth... July the 4th. July 4th, that's right. Noagenthedonations.com. Until then, adios, mofos, a hooey, hooey, and such. Child care, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our healthcare system, making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible
Starting point is 03:19:22 for what I've been able to do with the COVID, excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with water. If we finally beat Medicare, every single thing he said is a lie, every single one. That is simply not true. Period. Period. What the White House is calling cheap fakes, which he means... Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, that's not true. For real, I got my handicap,
Starting point is 03:19:55 which when I was vice president, down to a six. And, by the way, I told you before I'm happy to play golf, you can carry your own bag. She fakes the idea. The idea. I'm all in on the mask.
Starting point is 03:20:10 The masks are real and they work and they're very convincing and they're undetectable, I know, from my own family's experience. Truth is, it is absolutely killing us. No one wants to screw around with us. Nobody wants that to happen. Democrat or Republican, nobody wants it to happen. This guy told Trump, do whatever you want.
Starting point is 03:20:30 You can do whatever you want. And that's exactly what Trump did. He didn't fire. Did you fire anybody? Did you fire anybody that's on the border? Truth is. This man is a criminal. This man, you're lucky. More fentanyl machines, more be able to detect drugs,
Starting point is 03:20:44 more numbers. And every time that, more be able to detect drugs, more numbers. Every time that Zelensky comes to this country, walks away with $60 billion, he's the greatest salesman ever. Truth is. A lot of people are dead right now. He went to the funeral. The idea that she was murdered by an immigrant.
Starting point is 03:21:00 We mentioned the laptop, we mentioned Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. Every single thing he said is a lie. Everything he does is a lie. Truth is. You could feel it. We mentioned the laptop, we mentioned Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. Every single thing he said is a lie. Everything he does is a lie. Truth is, you could feel it. You could feel it too, and you could feel it. My son was not a loser, he was not a sucker.
Starting point is 03:21:13 You're the sucker, you're the loser. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. What you have done, how you've destroyed the lives of so many people. By his tremendous amount of feasance in the way he handled the pandemic. He caused the inflation and it's killing black families and Hispanic families and just about everybody. The truth is... We're like a bunch of stupid people. The only person on this stage is a convicted felon, is the man I'm looking at right now.
Starting point is 03:21:36 He did the mandate, which is a disaster, mandating it. The vaccine went out, he did a mandate on the vaccine, which is the thing that people most objected to. ...been able to do with the COVID, excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with... I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don't think he knows what he said either. Truth is... You have to get elected also. All of the formatting tweaks that CNN made actually helped Trump tremendously. Oh, why am I right?
Starting point is 03:22:09 Look, there's so many young women who have been, including a young woman who just was murdered. And he went to the Journal, and they had the idea that she was murdered by an immigrant coming in. They talk about that, but here's the deal. There's a lot of young women who are raped by their in-laws, by their spouses, by their brothers and sisters. It's just ridiculous. And they can do nothing about it. They try to arrest them on the cross-state line.
Starting point is 03:22:39 Thank you. Your actions have put the lives of our partners, our allies, and our diplomats at risk, especially those who work in Afghanistan and Iraq. Nailed it. Yeah, exactly. Nailed it. For a person with advanced dementia, who deserves the gold medal.
Starting point is 03:22:54 Interfering in the US presidential elections. Whenever he was losing focus, he didn't have any reference. Ally, am I right? Not having an audience made Biden even more lost and look even more isolated and more in outer space. Did you ever discover anyone who was inter killed?
Starting point is 03:23:16 Yeah, the simplest way would just be to remove the immunity. A lot of people with his advanced level of dementia would have done way worse. Ally, am I right? Over 36,000 seriously injured Americans from COVID-19 vaccine. Are you recording me right now?
Starting point is 03:23:38 Everybody here is saying they're safe. OK, so you have to stop recording me and stop recording my place. Okay, so you have to stop recording me and stop recording my place. You can only be medicated. Thank you, President. High five. Turning off the opponent's mic and making each of these candidates go 80-90 seconds at a time was no interruption. My husband is an attorney, so you're not going to put this video anywhere, so I'm not sure what you're doing with your phone. Up and down the chain. Dr. Fauci, you claim that the NIH never funded gain of function.
Starting point is 03:24:06 Oh, why, am I right? You do not know what you are talking about. Okay, so you have to stop recording me and stop recording my plea. Up and down the chain. Nailed it. Yeah, exactly. Nailed it. Deserves the gold medal. The best podcast in the universe! MoFo.
Starting point is 03:24:29 Dvorak.org slash NA. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.

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