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Starting point is 00:00:00 Putin endorses Trump. Number six in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we say Happy Fourth of July Independence Day and why is Ted Nugent not in the Hall of Fame? I'm John C. DeBorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. That's because Ted Nugent refuses to be in the Hall of Fame. He outright refuses to be with the douches.

Starting point is 00:00:42 You didn't know that? Well, I know that he was never invited early on. No, that's why. You know, once ABBA got in, I mean, why would Ted Nugent want to be in the rock and roll hall of fame? Let's be honest. So now he's just stubborn. I don't blame him though. No, of course not.

Starting point is 00:01:01 Hey, I think we have a determining factor that the economy is not doing well. Also noticed by many other trolls this morning, remarkably less pre-fireworks going off this year. Oh, yeah, I'd say that's the case here too. And I will say this. We have a 3rd of July, the best fireworks display, at least where I am in the East Bay, is the Richmond 3rd of July fireworks display, which they wisely do the day before the 4th because on the 4th I'd say nine times out of ten the fog rolls in and ruins it. It's true. The two times I was out there for 4th of July, it was completely socked in. Didn't you and I go up to some building at one point, we were above the cloud layer and

Starting point is 00:01:54 you could see the fireworks kind of poking through? Or is that my imagination? I have done stuff like that. I kind of remember Jay was there, I think, she was like 14 or 15, am I crazy? Yeah, well that's beside the point. Okay, thanks. So they did the 3rd of July fireworks, which is always a winner, because there's no fog,

Starting point is 00:02:17 and there's usually a slight breeze, so it's actually the perfect day to do it around here. As you mentioned, it's always fogged in on the fourth. It's always on the fourth. You'll sit, I don't think it's gonna be today, tonight, but nine out of ten times it socks in. So I noticed that there was, they didn't have, like last year they had all these crazy fireworks, heart, giant hearts, triple hearts, happy faces. And my favorite one, which I just, every time I saw it, I said, how did they do that? A giant cube.

Starting point is 00:02:52 Yeah. Boom, a cube. It's the damndest thing. Boom, a cube. Now there was no fancy, there was just big bombs or big, big, you know, the big blossoms and that was it. Boom, boom, boom, boom boom boom. I thought it was disappointing Yeah, well all I know is that

Starting point is 00:03:10 Last year and the year before both years. We're out here in Hill country Hill country You can't drive from Austin to Fredericksburg on Route 290 Without passing by eight or nine fire sheds that are selling fireworks. Right, that would be normal in the South. Very normal, very normal. And I just haven't heard it. There's been very, I think like maybe three days ago, someone set something off, which of course is where in the Hill Country played the game,

Starting point is 00:03:38 fireworks or gunfire, we're never really sure. But there was nothing. Last night I heard one like lady finger, ploop. Like, okay, economy is bad, people, it's bad. Got no money to blow it up in the air. Well, we'll see tonight. Yeah, I don't know. Richmond itself, when they have the San Francisco fireworks,

Starting point is 00:03:58 the whole town of Richmond and I'd say half of Oakland become homebrew fireworks. Oh, that's the best. Homebrew fireworks are the best. It's just like things are blowing up left and right. Usually they're usually done by the kind of these block parties led by some guy named Lefty. In Oakland? It doesn't matter where.

Starting point is 00:04:22 No, I know Lefty. Yeah. I got you. So I've been collecting a couple of clips about President Biden and I think the beautiful thing right now, and you cannot tell me we are not in the season of reveal now that everybody really- Whatever that means. Well, Joe Biden is not competent. Everybody knows that. I hope that people also

Starting point is 00:04:49 see that the media has been lying all this time. Well, they're desperately trying to cover that up with all kinds of reporting about other things besides their lies. No one in the media has called out Jarin for lying about the cheap fakes. That was the most blatant, obviously. In fact, and I don't have clips of that, but I even heard, I think on CNN has been the best, especially Jake Tapper. He's just sitting there saying, well, we saw world leaders trying to kind of huddle themselves around the president at D-Day. Like that's what Jareen called a cheap fake and said the media coined that

Starting point is 00:05:29 phrase. It's really, we're in an unbelievable time right now. I just don't know if anyone cares. I don't see how it's that different during the COVID era. Well, no, it's not. It's not different, but now we see the lies. There's a couple of things to note. For one, they moved the George Stephanopoulos interview to tomorrow, prime time. Tomorrow, prime time.

Starting point is 00:06:01 It was Sunday. It was supposed to be Sunday. Oh, I thought it was Friday. Did they move it from Friday to Sunday? Is that what they did? It was always this Sunday show. It was his, the Stephanopoulos weekend thing. But they took it and moved it to prime time. So I don't know if it's going to be prime time Sunday or when it's going to be. How much you're going to bet it's going to be edited? I'm not taking that bet. But it could be, but I was starting to think about this.

Starting point is 00:06:29 And I, so I looked up, I hate to do this because I tell people that you want to waste a lot of time. Do the follow, do the Google search council on foreign relations roster. Yes. So I went to the S's, I just wanted to make sure, I think I already knew that Stepanopoulos was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. So I went to the S's and I just want to read a few of the names as I go through here. And let's just explain, Council on Foreign Relations,

Starting point is 00:07:00 that's, it is a drinking club, but not like Bilderberg. Bilderberg is truly a wine and cheese club at this point. And the Council on Foreign Relations is a globalist cabal. If you're a member, you always have work and you're expected to perform a certain way. And I started to notice this is the Council on Foreign Relations. It's all their journalists, all of them, uh, from Tom Friedman, who's in the Council on Foreign Relations. It's all their journalists, all of them, from Tom Friedman, who's in the Council on Foreign Relations,

Starting point is 00:07:28 to the rest of them at the New York Times, all these New York Times guys, that have turned on Biden. Yeah, that's great. They've all turned on Biden. I'm gonna read some names from the S's, just because it's worth mentioning. We start with Jeffrey Sachs, you've heard of him, then you go down and down and you hear people like

Starting point is 00:07:46 Barbara Christie Samuels II, I don't know who that is. Who's that? Cheryl Sandberg. Oh, of course. Lean In, I mean, oh yeah, she's an obvious expert. She's the COO of, she was of Facebook. Yes. And so she's obviously an expert on foreign relations.

Starting point is 00:08:03 So she should be in the club. Yeah. David Sanger New York Times David Saperstein Anthony Scaramucci. I The mooch yeah Now the mooch was like I've worked for Trump for a while and then and we did an interview with him for this show It's one of the few interviews we do right? Yeah,, yeah. And he seemed normal, and then all of a sudden he turned on Trump out of the blue for no good reason he was obviously told to.

Starting point is 00:08:29 He got the call. He's like a hedge fund guy with a restaurant. I mean, why is he an expert? And Bitcoin. And Bitcoin. Joe Scarborough is on the list, even though Brzezinski's not, but he's on the list and he's turned on Biden.

Starting point is 00:08:46 Yeah, well he had to. I mean he is really a puppet. I mean we've seen that over and over again. And then I ran into this I forgot that she's on the list. Vivian Schiller. Ah, the old NPR lady. Yeah, advertising whatever you want to call it woman. Isn't she? Yeah, advertising whatever you want to call it, woman. Isn't she running? What was she? She's doing something. She's always got a job because she's the CFR people, always get work.

Starting point is 00:09:10 Oh, she's the CEO of the Aspen Institute. No, no, no, that can't be. Hold on a second. What is she doing? Let me see. What is she doing now? So listen to this. She was former president, CEO of NPR, former head of news at Twitter,

Starting point is 00:09:26 former senior vice president at NBC News, and indeed executive director of Aspen Digital. So she's really on the, she does the podcast for the Aspen Institute. You're on the lowest rung Viv. Going down the list, we have Eric Schmidt, our buddy who used to be the you know the COO or the CTO of Sun Microsystems became the CEO of Google. Obvious expert on foreign relations. Well he is running the drone war, the miniature drone war in Ukraine. He's working. Megan J Smith. Isn't that Kara Schwischer's ex wife? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:10:10 Ex husband, whatever you want to call her. Google. Yes. I found that to be weird. Uh, cause by the way, just for your information, Kara's not on the list. No. And neither is Galloway and it probably irks them that they haven't been invited into the club yeah it probably does

Starting point is 00:10:35 irk him not you mentioned it Andrew Ross Sorkin oh yeah well hello he's on CNBC all the time an ex-New Times guy, typical. George and Jonathan Soros right beneath them. Yes. Alex Soros not on the list? No, George and Jonathan. And there's Stephanopoulos, and then I went to the rest of it to find Patty Stone's Stone cipher,

Starting point is 00:11:03 whatever her name is, She's a Microsoft person. There's a go to the G. See if Donald Greg is still on there. My uncle. Do you have let me finish this? Yeah, I'll do that right now. Stone cipher, then Lawrence Summers, we know that. And then Johnson, new new Donald Greg.

Starting point is 00:11:23 There's a lot of see, there's an interesting group of people. There's there's a lot in New York Times's a lot of see there's an interesting group of people as there's a lot in New York Times a lot of media people a few actors lots of gay people yeah go look at my uncle Greg GRE double G I wonder if he's still in I pray can't no he's not no good I pray he can't. No, he's not. No, good. Good for Uncle Don. Well, it doesn't mean he's not wanted. No, he wouldn't want to do it anymore. He's done. He's tired of them all. Well, he probably can't, you know. Anyway, let's go to Stephanopoulos' Well, dude, so let me finish my thought.

Starting point is 00:12:03 Yeah. Let me finish my thought, which is that since the Council on Foreign Relations, which includes these people we mentioned, there's tons of others. Chelsea Clinton, for example. They've all turned on Biden. What's to make us think that this interview that they moved to prime time isn't a setup? I think that is exactly what the point is. I've been tracking ABC. I have two clips from them and they are starting to open the gap and leaving it wide open to kick the old man through. In the first stunning indication that

Starting point is 00:12:40 President Biden is seriously considering his next step. Sources tell ABC News Biden told at least two people his next few public appearances are critical to determining whether he can stay in the race. They say the president is keeping an open mind about his path forward, saying he knows he has to perform well on his upcoming campaign stops as well as his Friday interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos Friday change public perception They're the same Friday. So I have a feeling they're not gonna wait until Sunday John They're gonna do it Friday prime time when everybody's not I know what the deal was this was for his Sunday show and they were gonna record it on Friday

Starting point is 00:13:19 Which gives him the two days to edit it. Yes But if they're going in the opposite direction. No, they're going to tank him. It's obvious. They're going to tank him. It's George Stephanopoulos to change public perception. Separately, the New York Times first reported that Biden is weighing whether to continue his reelection bid, a claim the White House quickly rejected. The president is clear eyed and he is staying in the race. The president's widely banned debate performance last week left his campaign scrambling to stave off mounting concerns about his mental fitness.

Starting point is 00:13:54 Today Biden's speaking to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer for the first time since the debate, according to a top White House aide, just one day after he spoke to House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries. He has done this outreach. He's having these conversations. It is important to him to do so. With just four months until election day, many Democrats now torn between backing the president or rallying behind a new candidate. Texas Democratic Representative Lloyd Doggett on CNN becoming the first to break rings.

Starting point is 00:14:26 I just feel that it's time for him to step aside if we were to be able to protect what he allowed us to gain in 2020, which was a victory for democracy. Sources say Vice President Harris cut her vacation short and flew back to Washington to attend a lunch with the president. And tonight, Biden also meeting privately with Democratic governors as concerns reach a critical point. Yeah, so this was interesting that the governors all went to the White House. I think there were eight or nine of them.

Starting point is 00:14:58 Only three came out. The White House tonight, 25 Democratic governors met with President Biden, three of them emerging, including Governor Hockel, with a message of support from the group. I'm here to tell you today, President Joe Biden is in it to win it. The president has always had our backs. We're going to have his back as well. What we saw in there today was a guy who was the guy that all of us believed in the first time who could beat Donald Trump and did beat Donald Trump.

Starting point is 00:15:26 The Biden administration hastily called the meeting of democratic government. By the way, this was inside the White House and you hear the band playing and they do this long shot of Biden walking up the aisle. It was so, so sad they did this because you know how he walks, right? Yeah, he walks with a bad gate. He has a bad gate he has like a gate of someone with Parkinson's. The Biden administration hastily called the meeting of democratic governors as it struggles to continue the damage after the president's performance on the debate stage last Thursday. Today he appeared on two radio shows and explained his problem

Starting point is 00:16:05 was that he had a cold, had jet lag, and had been over prepared with statistics. Now listen to this, so he did two really obs... well one was a network but black... two black radio shows because that's you know if we can still trick the black people we're good to go. Failing to connect with the American people, CNN aired a part of one of those interviews tonight. I had a bad night. And the fact of the matter is that,

Starting point is 00:16:31 I screwed up, I made a mistake. Now listen to this where he's reading the script because no one would say it this way, but of course he's reading a script. That's 90 minutes on stage. Look at what I've done in 3.5 years. You would have said three and a half years, don't you think? Instead of 3.5, you could just see the script there on paper.

Starting point is 00:16:49 3.5 years. Oh yeah, that's a great catch. Nobody says 3.5 when he's talking about three and a half. If you're just casually conversing. You might write 3.5, which is what was there. If you're reading it, you'd read 3.5, but yes That's 90 minutes on stage. Look at what I've done in 3.5 years. Still sources tell ABC News the president has privately acknowledged the next few days will be critical

Starting point is 00:17:16 Telling an ally that while he still views himself as the best candidate to defeat Donald Trump He's keeping quote an open mind about the path forward. These people are now being mean. We look, we know the top of his head was off twice, but you don't have to like, you know, point it out to everybody that his mind is open. From his press secretary though, the official line is defiance. He is staying in the race. I don't have anything else beyond that. He is staying, he's staying in the race I don't have anything else beyond that he is staying he's staying in the race where's the if the word is the official line using the way we're using the word defiance but she didn't say that she just knows I'm talking about the media I know

Starting point is 00:17:58 that's what I'm saying that the official line is defiance and there's no official line that even includes the word or even sounds like defiance. Defiance is one of those negative words, a loaded word that the media loves to use when they're, when they're slanting a story. And so, because it means you're, it means you're, something's wrong with you. You're defiant. I'm just defiant. You're not making sense.

Starting point is 00:18:22 I, that, that's, that's a great clip. From his press secretary, though, the official line is defiance. He is staying in the race. I don't have anything else beyond that. He is staying in the race. It's notable that of the 25 Democratic governors who participated in tonight's meeting, only three emerged to publicly back the president. The most mentioned Biden replacements Gavin Newsom of California, Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, JB Pritzker of Illinois. All of them avoided the cameras tonight. Only two of them releasing written statements supporting Biden. Yeah, they were sharpening the knives.

Starting point is 00:18:57 They had no time. I'd like to know what the Democrats are thinking to include Pritzker. No, no, no, no. I'll get to that. But none of these people are ever going to be president. No, I'm understanding that. That nobody's going to, it's going to either be Harris or nobody, by the way. Yes, that's my point. We need a horse race. We need to get everybody engaged. This is for television ratings, nothing else. Well, how is that getting ratings using Pritzker?

Starting point is 00:19:25 Because the guy's fun to look at with that big fat head. They always do the big close up. They're like, look at that. And the transsexual brother. Oh yeah, that's right. What's the main thing? Kelly Pritzker. What do you mean?

Starting point is 00:19:39 Kelly Pritzker. Anyway, the pressure's on according to Christian Wilker of NBC Today. This is just an unprecedented moment with the president frankly facing more pressure by the day. Look, Democrats, as you say, they defended President Biden over concerns about his age, but things clearly changed since the debate. There's just been a wave of panic within the party based on my conversations. And it is significant that those cracks are starting to emerge. You just saw Gabe map out. But the question is, will the pressure be enough for the president to step aside?

Starting point is 00:20:12 Here's what I'm looking for, Craig. What happens to polling in the coming days and weeks? Do donors start to abandon the president? And do more lawmakers start to air their concerns publicly? If a top Democrat, for example, starts to come out and call for the president to drop out of the race, that's a game changer. That's when the floodgates really open. Oh, that will be a game. Let's see what the Biden administration... Wow. This is so good. I mean, pay attention to this because you're not going to hear this kind of stuff often in your life considering the four-year cycle. This is really particularly from a,

Starting point is 00:20:47 this is a Democrat. The media is Democrat. They are all left leaning, borderline Marxists. They're all authoritarian. They love just getting mad at the right and the far right and the GOP and the conservatives and the fascists. Fascists. Yes, the Nazis. This is something to behold. This is really a beautiful moment. You know, I hope we have four more years of this.

Starting point is 00:21:17 Facing doubts from within his party and new polling that shows the president falling further behind former president Trump. Today, candidate Biden telling his team, no one is pushing me out. The president and vice president held a conference call with campaign staff. Officials say he was direct, saying to aides, let me say this as clearly as I possibly can, as simply and straightforward as I can. I am running.

Starting point is 00:21:44 Nearly a week after the debate that the White House labels a bad night, the president called key congressional Democrats, officials here acknowledging the strain. That the last few days have been challenging. With more troubling signs in new polling done after the debate. President Biden now trailing former President Trump by six points. Have you, let's go on LinkedIn and see if Jareen Kabul Abdar, if her resume is out there yet. She's got to be, she's, hey, Linda Liu.

Starting point is 00:22:14 It would be open for work. Open, entertaining offers. 80% of those surveyed said they consider the president too old to run again. The White House says the president is now feeling great after citing a cold on debate night. The president told donors Tuesday evening that he had jet lag too. The debate was 12 days after his return from Europe. The president said that this is not an excuse but an explanation. So of course they went to the piggy bank, turned it upside down. Oh wait, stop.

Starting point is 00:22:47 That's another fine piece of wordage. Oh yeah, it's not an excuse. It's an explanation. That is dynamite. It's quite good. Honey, I did not cheat. I'm not making an excuse, I'm just making an explanation. No, it didn't quite come out right.

Starting point is 00:23:07 No, that was no good. No, that was no good. Anyway. But you could structure it that way. Yeah. So they broke the piggy bank, took out the last pennies. Let's do one more ad, everybody. We can convince them.

Starting point is 00:23:20 Did you see Trump last night? I mean it sincerely. The most lies told in a single debate. He lied about the great economy he created. He lied about the pandemic he botched. And then, his biggest lie, he lied about how he had nothing to do with the insurrection of January 6th. We all saw with our own eyes. We're going to walk down to the Capitol and Iurrection of January 6th. We all saw with our own eyes.

Starting point is 00:23:45 We're going to walk down to the Capitol, and I'll be there with you. We saw police being attacked. The Capitol being ransacked. Ransacked. We did not a single thing to stop it. Nothing. Folks, I know I'm not a young man.

Starting point is 00:24:01 And I know how to do this job. I know right from wrong. Oh. I know how to do this job. I know right from wrong. I know how to tell the truth. I know like millions of Americans know, when you get knocked down, you get back up. I'm Joe Biden and I approve this message. Yo, that's really amazing piece of editing. That ending there, you could just put Hitler in there

Starting point is 00:24:41 You know Every that really could have could have been a Hitler Hitler ad. So here's, I just want everybody to hear a big loser. If you want to hear a loser. Now a guy who granted is trying to be do the right thing, but he didn't read the tea leaves. This is the biggest loser of the year. This is the governor of Colorado. Some polls out governor this week show that 70% of Americans that were still concerned

Starting point is 00:25:06 about his age and they say people like you, Governor Polis will say as sharp as ever, there's no issues. But they have eyes, they have ears, they see him stumbles during a speech, they listen to him mispronounce words from time to time. What do you say to that voter who's saying, well, I hear what Governor Polis is saying, but I also can see and hear myself. Well, first of all, I don't know if many American people know what the president himself is very open about, that he's had a stuttering problem since he was a young man. So I mean, if you look at him talking during his Senate career decades ago, no.

Starting point is 00:25:41 Let's go back to 2014, Biden. Let's see if he was stuttering then. I aspire for one of my grandchildren to become wealthy. So when they put me in the home, I'll get a window of the view. You know, I mean, right now, as I, as I pointed out, it was embarrassing. Bernie Sanders net worth is more than mine. I mean, I have less money than a socialist. I don't know what the hell happened to me. You know what I mean? And I've been doing this for 44 years. I mean, you think I'm kidding? I'm not kidding, unfortunately. No, he had no stutter problem. That's a lie. The stutter thing is

Starting point is 00:26:18 ridiculous. He's always had issues around articulation that he's dealt with. No, no, we just heard that. On this show over the last 17 years, we have done, because it started during our show when he started to sound drunk. Yeah. And we even had a theme for it because we play a Biden clip when he was vice president and onward called drunk or not drunk specifically for his clips. Yes. Onward. Part of his personal narrative, he talks about how we overcame that speech disability to become the leader.

Starting point is 00:26:52 Speech disability. ...that he is today. I also think it can't really be an election issue when the likely nominee on the other side is basically just as old and probably in worse health. Worse health? So how can this be an election issue when the comparable candidate, the likely nominee of the Republican Party, not only is of the same age, but also is obese, is not as healthy, doesn't exercise as much. What?

Starting point is 00:27:18 All right, loser. This guy wasn't read in. No, that's what I'm saying. He's a loser. He's out. He's not even going to be the governor of Colorado for long. There's no way. Wrong script, pal.

Starting point is 00:27:30 So now we get into the pivot here that we all have heard. We need to start it off with Van Jones on CNN. Van Jones, not a dummy. Bezos gave him $100 million to give away as he saw fit for his non-profit. So I'm sure some of that went into the campaign. But you know, where's he going to put the money now? He even drops a little K-word in here.

Starting point is 00:27:54 Look, I'm just going to be honest. I mean, everybody comes on. Please. Well, that's refreshing, Van. Be honest for once. Look, I'm just going to be honest. I mean, everybody comes on the air and says all this great stuff. But behind the scenes, it's a full scale panic. People are passing around legal memos, PDS are flying back and forth on WhatsApp trying to figure out what are

Starting point is 00:28:15 the options? How can you replace Biden? How do you get him to do it in a way where he feels respected as he should be respected? Who should Kamala Harris's vice president be the conversation on air and the conversation off? respected as he should be respected. Who should Kamala Harris's vice president be? The conversation on air and the conversation off. Whoa. I mean, he just drops that in like a lead balloon. Like, you know, we got PDFs flying back and forth on WhatsApp. We got legal briefs. Who should Kamala's vice president be? Hello, Van. Air are completely different. And so it's the same thing with you saw with the Trump situation, where people would come on air and defend Trump.

Starting point is 00:28:48 Then you talk to people and then we got a crazy candidate. We don't have a crazy candidate. We have a great candidate. We have a beautiful man. We have someone who loves this country. We have someone who has given his all. I mean his all to the last drop for this country, but he may not be able to get across the finish line.

Starting point is 00:29:04 And a mature party has to take that into account. And that is what's happening. And so look, I understand people want to, you know, defend them and protect them and give him their space and the dignity to make his own choice. But there is a big conversation happening right now about how this happens, not whether. You know, it's actually kind of interesting. He says something in here that, you know, it could have been code is not, but I want to explain it. Let me see if it's here.

Starting point is 00:29:28 Passing around legal memos, PDS are flying back and forth. Oh no, I didn't say it right. Never mind. So that's Van Jones basically saying it's going to be Kamala. We're looking at all the legal ramifications, all different angles. There's a lot. You know, Van Jones has money, so he's a big man on campus. Now, if you really want to know what's going to happen, we need to go to the source, to the real, one of the people with the real big money. It's not the biggest, but probably the most visible who doesn't speak much, and he was at the Aspen Ideas Festival. This is the fest out there where all the nerds go and hang out. I mean the rich ones,

Starting point is 00:30:07 the billionaires. Yeah, we're going to change the world with AI and technology. And I'm sure that that's where a lot of these PDF files were flying around. Why does he have to use PDF? Why does he say that? Why don't you just say files are, you know, documents are flying around? Let me say this. In slang on social media, now he didn't say it, he said PDFs. If you say PDF files, that is actually code for pedophiles. PDF files. Because you don't want to get deplatformed, so you use code. What? Yeah, you didn't know that, did you? I did not.

Starting point is 00:30:48 You got me on that one. Yeah, Mo taught me that one. PDF files. People say, hey, the PDF files. So for Black Van Jones, he didn't say PDF files, so I don't think it was any coded message. They're probably actually sending legal memos around because, listen to this, Ari Emanuel, of course brother of Ram, but Ram is you know he's ambassador somewhere now, but Ari I mean he is a big man on campus. Ari controls a lot, he's in charge of

Starting point is 00:31:19 Hollywood, he's in charge of Hollywood. Yeah, he and Katzenberg are really in charge of Hollywood, so they control a lot and there's in charge of Hollywood. Yeah, he and Katzenberg are really in charge of Hollywood. So they control and there's a lot of money attracted to Hollywood who like to hang out with the stars. So Ari is going to lay it out and he's very clear and I think this is the true deconstruction of what it is, what's going on and where it's headed without a doubt. We're looking at a man who's saying the other guy's a liar and he's telling us malarkey. His people are telling us malarkey.

Starting point is 00:31:50 But we're in a very bad problem. He is not the candidate anymore. I mean, if you all remember, this is a legal issue now. He was going to get kicked off the ballot in Ohio. They elected him the candidate. So you no longer can remove him in three swing states Wisconsin Pennsylvania and Michigan. There's only one Democratic Congress Michigan

Starting point is 00:32:14 They have to vote to remove him I don't believe the Republican Party in in in Pennsylvania and in in Wisconsin are gonna do that Okay, and if they do it's then Kamel Harris. We don't have, this is legal, so lawyers have to look at this. And everybody says, we'll get rid of them, and the Volkert Convention. No, now maybe the delegates, there's some question whether the delegates can do something. I promised myself I wasn't going to swear. So we're in a, this is a pickle.

Starting point is 00:32:46 You know, the lifeblood to, and I have a brother who's a politician, he's an ambassador as it said, the lifeblood to a campaign in politics, the lifeblood is money. And maybe the only way this gets, with smart lawyers looking at it, is if the money starts drying up. But I've talked, I mean I I'm assuming all of you've gotten a lot of calls, I've gotten a lot of calls, we've all sat there, it was, who was? Well, I was gonna say, what happens now

Starting point is 00:33:10 if you have Jeffrey Katzenberg's massive- But if this is, as Biden says, the fight for our democracy, and he talks about the soldiers, man, he gave us a bunch of malarkey, and I'm really pissed. And we all should be really pissed. Right. And what does this do to Jeffrey Katzenberg's fundraising?

Starting point is 00:33:29 Well, you know, Jeffrey, I mean, you're going to know in the next couple, you're going to see polling, you're going to see in the next couple weeks, if the money comes in, I talked to a bunch of big donors, and they're moving all their money to Congress and the Senate. I mean, I cannot believe we're in this situation. Well, as one of the great disruptors in your career, I mean, do we have to sit by and sleep more? It's a legal issue now. You're not in, I'm going to resign, you know, unless the lawyers tell you something else and maybe there's some wiggle room. I haven't seen it and I'm

Starting point is 00:34:01 not a lawyer. We're in fuck city. There you go. So that's clear for everybody. They can't get out of it. Kamala is going to be the candidate if and when Joe withdraws, drops out, drops dead. And I think you and I have seen, wow, what a coincidence having that Vogue article come out, the day after the debate or two days after

Starting point is 00:34:25 the debate with Jill Biden on the cover. They never had Melania on the cover, by the way, an actual supermodel, an actual supermodel. No, I don't have her on the cover. And she's talking about, you know, you want to see what power's like, power's like when you step off of the plane and you can whisk around town through that red lights, it's awesome. You know, $10,000 dress. Yeah, fantastic, Jill. So, they're not going to give up. That doesn't seem like it, but something will give because there's just too much pressure. Here's Wall Street's take. Do you think people are underestimating Kamala Harris? It's almost become a joke. Wall Street's take. to be transferred to any other candidate. So she gets the war chest. She'll be very well funded. Third, look at her approval rating with Democrats, 84%.

Starting point is 00:35:28 She's much more popular within the president with young voters. She's very popular with black voters and she'll help drive women, turn out by women. I think people will totally underestimate the vice president. I'd put my money on her. Yeah, put my money on her.

Starting point is 00:35:42 So of course, Kamala, you know- This is like worse than a bad novel. This is great. I think that Kamala Harris, the blowjob artist from the Bay Area, has managed to get all the way to the presidency. This is like that novel by Jersey Kozinski, I think this is the last name I can remember anymore, Being There, which became a movie about Chauncey Gardner, who was a gardener, who's, I don't know if you remember that story, but this is what this looks like to me.

Starting point is 00:36:15 Some woman who was just kind of a character, to say the least, just all of a sudden she's president of the United States. Really? I don't think so. How does that movie end? I don't remember how it ends. What is Brunetti doing? Is he directing this? Is he producing this charade? It's totally possible. He wishes. Yeah. So because Kamala has to step up now, you know, and she's got to make sure, look, the one thing we all know, she's black. you know, and she's got to make sure, like the one thing we all know, she's black. She's black. She's the first black vice president, first black female vice president. Of course, she's as black as Barack Obama was black. When you're talking about black America, she has brown skin, but she's Jamaican. She's Canadian and she's Indian Brahmin. She's Brahmin. Oh, yeah. She's a Brahmin. Yeah, so what do you do?

Starting point is 00:37:09 We go talk black on the BET Awards you get on with your girlfriend your girlfriend Yeah, you know with the Taraji. So what's on your mind? Oh Madam VP Harris, I'm worried about the election. Have you seen this this particular clip this Madam VP Harris, I'm worried about the election. Have you seen this particular clip? So it's one of those things they roll in on the BET awards and Taraji is in her dressing room and she's on FaceTime with Madam VP. And she's all Madam VP, I'm so worried. And Madam VP is in her office with some important looking paper, you know, and a pen and one

Starting point is 00:37:44 of these folders like she's about to sign some important legislation. And she's taking a break here, taking a break to talk to her, her pal Taraji. Taraji is an actress. Women's reproductive rights are on the line. Our Supreme Court is on the line. Our basic freedoms are being tested, Madam VP. I know you've been traveling across the country. What are you hearing? Yeah, girl, I'm out here in these streets Yeah, girl. I'm out here. I'm out here in these streets. I'm out here in these streets girl. That's right I'm seeing you hearing yeah girl I'm out here in these streets and let me tell you you're right to Raji

Starting point is 00:38:16 There is so much at stake in this moment the majority of us believe in freedom and equality But these extremists as they say they not, as they say, they not like us. As they say, they not like us, John. How you talk now? They not like us. This is worse than Hillary's hot sauce. That nasal, condescending nasal, she's got a screwy voice that does not appeal to anybody. It's insincere, it's super nasally, it's actually somebody defined it as a Berkeley accent. That's a good point.

Starting point is 00:38:53 And it's just annoying. When she ran for president against the field, she's one of the first to drop out because no Democrats liked her at all. But now all of a sudden, according to the clip you just played a couple clips ago, 82% of all the Democrats love her. Love her. Please. Now, okay, we'll get to some analysis in a moment. I just want to play the rest of this code switch. This isn't... I'm doing a show with Moe pretty soon. We have to get a show out because this,

Starting point is 00:39:27 to say this street talk all of a sudden, now she's doing, oh, I can talk like, and black America does talk like this. That's fine. But you not that lady. But these extremists, as they say, they not like us. They not like us. No, they not.

Starting point is 00:39:44 There's a full on attack on our fundamental freedoms. The freedom to vote. Yep. The freedom to love who you love. The freedom to be safe from gun violence. The freedom for a woman. The freedom to be safe from gun violence is just the best freedom the founders ever came up with.

Starting point is 00:39:59 I declare we shall be free from gun violence after we kick the British's butt. To make decisions about her own body, not having her government tell her what to do. They are here trying to take away- Oh, you mean like get the shot? You mean like a vax mandate? Yep.

Starting point is 00:40:14 Away pride, plan B. Oh wait, now they've got the P's here. See, they've got the four P's. You gotta check it out. And plan body, not having her government tell her what to do. Okay, here we go, we got it. They are here trying to take away pride, pride, plan B, plan B. And plan parenthood. And plan parenthood. But protecting pistols. So we're taking away Pride, Plan B, Plan Parenthood, but they're protecting pistols. A lot of P's in there. If you ask me, they're pushing the wrong P's. They want to turn back the clock on our hard fought progress.

Starting point is 00:40:26 Now I know why the cage bird sings. What we're doing is we're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's.

Starting point is 00:40:34 We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's.

Starting point is 00:40:42 We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the P's. We're going to have to get rid of the V's. They want to turn back the clock on our hard fought progress. Now I know why the cage burst things. Well, what can we do? We will do what we have always done. Well, we're gonna we're gonna cheat. Fight for our freedoms. But here's the thing. We cannot fight alone. We need to get our families, our friends, co workers, cousins, play cousins, aunties

Starting point is 00:41:04 and uncles, get all of them to register to vote. Again, aunties and uncles, cousins and play cousins. Oh, it's just so, so, I can't wait to talk to Mo about it. It's pandering. It's called pandering. Yeah. And it's very identifiable.

Starting point is 00:41:19 Anyone who listens to stuff like this can recognize it. You don't have to be an idiot not to. I talked to Mo for hours on end doing the podcast. I don't start talking, yo Mo, like, Dan, like that, man. Like, I don't talk like that. Now, if you want to hear someone who's really unhinged, I just, I love, I love. You really collected a good collection here.

Starting point is 00:41:42 Yeah, thank you. Well, I had help. The Jones brothers are in there as well. Here's Joy Reid. Joy Reid on the street now because, you know, she didn't have a, she seems to be on MSNBC 14 hours a day, but it wasn't enough. No, we've got to do a little, we're going to do a live.

Starting point is 00:41:59 Y'all just tell me who the nominee is going to be. Let me know when you guys are finished fighting amongst yourselves, who I got to vote for in November to keep Hitler out the White House. That's nominee is going to be. Let me know when you guys are finished fighting amongst yourselves who I got to vote for in November to keep Hitler out the White House. That's all I want to know. Who I got to vote for to keep Hitler out the White House. Y'all do your thing. Play in traffic all you want in front of these Republicans, acting a fool in front of these

Starting point is 00:42:18 people instead of privately declaring your stuff. But don't text me no more because I'm not taking no more of these texts. Just let me know when you guys are finished figuring it out Democrats because I know y'all the freak out people. Go ahead and freak out, have your conversation and then let me know who I got to vote for to keep Hitler out the White House. That's it, I'm done. Oh and by the way if it's Biden in a coma I'm gonna vote for Biden in a coma. I don't even really particularly like the guy. A lot of his policy don't like him. He's not Donald Trump, right? Yeah. Hitler, White House, we keeping them out, keeping project 2025 out. That's all I care about. Up and down the ballot from the Rooter to the Tudor. School board, all the way up to White House and everything in between. Governors, members of Congress. I'm just going to vote all the way down to keep these people out.

Starting point is 00:43:02 The project 2025 thing is the whole Republican party. At this point, it's not about Biden. It is not about him. It's above me now. There's a Best Western next door. It is about keeping Donald Trump and his Project 2025 friends out of power. Now, I thought this clip was interesting because that is the entire mission of the Democrat Party. You will not hear anyone say, hey, you know, we've got a weak economy, it looks strong, but people are hungry. We have problems with inflation. You know, Nvidia is propping up the whole stock market. We have two wars going on. Israel is about to pick a fight with Hezbollah. When does it go to Iran?

Starting point is 00:43:46 No, none of that. These people don't care about America at all. All they care about is Rooter to the Tudor. All they care about is not getting Trump in, that Trump does not become president. That's all they care about. And the new talking point is back to that tired old Project 2025, which is from the Heritage Foundation. We went through it. It's not all that crazy. It's not like, you know, we're going to be lynching people. Let's stop for a second and take stock. Reflect on this Joy Reeds.

Starting point is 00:44:20 She's on TikTok doing these things. This is ruining her brand. What brand? She has a brand. It's on CNN or MSNBC. MSNBC. I never remember which of the two, but same thing. And she's scripted. She's made up to the tens. She looks good on that show.

Starting point is 00:44:43 She's got a good script to read and she's got a good script to read, and she's got a pitch that's not bad for that side of the argument. She comes on here and she's got no makeup on, she's bald as a billiard, she's ugly, she's an ugly, ugly woman, and she's lecturing you, she's in a condescending manner that they would never allow on television. They would, her producers would call her out for that. She's condescending enough on television, but not like these Tik Tok videos. And it's annoying. And I think they're going to, I think she's going to end up losing her job.

Starting point is 00:45:20 Oh, this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen anybody do is these videos. I will cry. By the way, way too close to the camera. It's like, holy, you scare the crap out of kids. It's just terrible, terrible. Well, we don't want that to happen, John, because we still have four more years to go. We need Joy Reid for the comedic element of the show. But the point being that the talking point is we don't want Trump in and with the evil

Starting point is 00:45:51 project 2025, which is just not all that evil. It's like, okay, so they're pro-life. Okay. Gee, how incredibly evil. It's not all that evil. It's not all that evil. It's a plan for America. And we've discussed that on the show. But it doesn't mean anything.

Starting point is 00:46:10 This is just another one of those things. Yeah, I know. It's like, contract with America, it's just a variation of that, which was done by Newt Gingrich back in the olden days. Yeah. But I think because it's project 2025, it's somehow it's contrasting the 1619 project, that hoax, which completely rewrote American history.

Starting point is 00:46:33 We're just slave owners. Someone posted today, and it was a retweet on podcastindex.social, which I try to keep politics out of that group. I actually just blocked the person who was retweeted and went away from the timeline. It was like, we declared these truths to be self-evident, inalienable rights, and now excuse me while I go and rape my slave.

Starting point is 00:46:58 It's like, what are you people doing? It's disgusting. It really is. It pisses me off when people do that. Anyway, there's only one thing that could spoil this all, even though you and I and many people who have written us all agree that the evidence for Biden's ailment is more Parkinson's than anything. Yes, which I got into back and forth with a number of people because he doesn't have

Starting point is 00:47:27 the tremors and I keep getting corrected that it's not necessarily tremors that you have. Not all Parkinson's results in tremors, but that gait in particular is Parkinson's and the dementia. But in the uninformed electorate, people say, oh, he's got Alzheimer's. So let's just say that's what people believe. It doesn't matter if they're correct or not. This could be the saving grace. People living with Alzheimer's have a new medication option. The FDA approved monoclonal antibody designed to slow the early stages of the disease

Starting point is 00:48:07 by helping remove plaque in the brain. The Eli Lilly drug will be sold under the name Kusumla. About seven million Americans 65 years and older live with Alzheimer's. Okay, Eli Lilly. But wait, before you, I have a better version of that. Can I just say one thing about this? Eli Lilly, hello, you need to talk to the

Starting point is 00:48:27 Curry-DeVorak Consulting Group about your name? Oh, the name is terrible. It should be called Joe Zempik, obviously. The Curry-DeVorak joke consultants. Now, they let that reports not as good as the NTD one, which is the Alzheimer's drug, because there's a little phrase in there that they left in by having the doctor come on and talk about it. And that phrase just floored me. On Tuesday, the Food and Drug Administration approved Eli Lilly's Alzheimer's medication,

Starting point is 00:49:02 the nanomobdenobab. The new treatment is denied to slow the progression of early stages of Alzheimer's medication, the nanomob denobab. The new treatment is denied to slow the progression of early stages of Alzheimer's disease. Urologist Richard Isaacson says this is good news. Good news. This drug shows us is that the

Starting point is 00:49:15 earlier we intervene, the better the patient will do. We can have slowing by 35% that buys a lot of time and that's very exciting. The drug will also be used to treat patients with mild cognitive impairment and the mild dementia stage of Alzheimer's disease.

Starting point is 00:49:29 In June, a panel of independent FDA advisors agreed to do Nana Manobab was safe and effective. It will be sold under the name Kiss Una and cost $695 a vial before insurance. You're dead. Safe and effective. Safe and effective. To wrap this segment up, someone alerted me to or pointed this little segment out from our show. This is from episode, what was it? 1446. When was see. I think it's April 28th, 2022. I'm going to double down on this. We have about

Starting point is 00:50:14 five more months until the election. A lot can happen. A lot can happen in the stock market. A lot can happen in the economy. A lot can happen on the global stage with wars. I'm particularly looking at what's happening now with Hezbollah. We killed one of their top guys. That's never something people take lightly. Let's go back for a second and listen to what my prediction was. And I'm going to make a prediction. It'll be very similar to my prediction that I made in 2015.

Starting point is 00:50:42 By the time 2024 rolls around, it is my belief and my sincere belief. Or I could say I do believe that people, even people on the left will be begging for Trump. They'll be begging for him to come back and fix it. That's my prediction. You can write it down. No, that's a pretty wild one. I'm doubling down fix it. That's my prediction. You can write it down. No, that's a pretty wild one. I'm doubling down on it.

Starting point is 00:51:09 I don't see anybody begging him, but I think they're getting him in. There's no doubt about that. I want to make a con. I have to bring in something Mimi brought up about Biden. And that is, and she, it's two points she made. One is about the dogs, his dogs. And of course, being kennel owners, we know about dog behavior.

Starting point is 00:51:32 He had two dogs, two German Shepherds, that bit Secret Service guys, and they were biters. Multiple times, multiple times. Multiple biters. She says that if you're in a household where you're protecting somebody because he's sick, that bite, and you can't, you know, you're overdoing it, it creates an anxiety in the room that the dogs sense and they pick up on and they become extremely protective.

Starting point is 00:51:53 Oh, that's good. And so they start biting people that just random people are supposed to be on, you know, they just- Yeah, especially people who are close to the president trying to do their secret service duty. So that is an interesting point I liked. But the other one, which was a sicker point and it's more of a point that women can come to.

Starting point is 00:52:14 And that's more like Mimi. More like Mimi. Yes. Is that we know if we really look back on it, Joe Biden throughout his career was a prick. He would chew people out. He would poke them in the chest. He was an a-hole.

Starting point is 00:52:29 And we know this with that poor woman who accused him of sexual assault and then she had to move to Russia who was on the staff. He has to be that, according to her, he has to be that way all the time. He, in other words, was probably a mean-spirited a-hole husband that Jill married and stayed with and put up with a lot of crap. She has the upper hand now, and she can torment and torture him by making him run more, letting

Starting point is 00:53:03 him get humiliated constantly as nurse. She's like a nurse ratchet. And she's just turned into this, a woman who can now, he's not a shoes on the other foot. I'm the boss now. And she loves it because it's after all these years of probable abuse. And I would guess that's true. Yeah, yeah. She can now do the abusing.

Starting point is 00:53:29 And she knows where all the money is. She's got the keys to the houses and the islands and everything. Yeah, she's an easy street. And I mean she loved to keep the jet, but she's definitely the one behind pushing him. You got to run again, Joe. Don't let him push you down. He can get a NetJet's card, no problem. Speaking of dogs, the knives are out for Bobby the Op just to make sure he doesn't try to slip in. Newsweek reporting there's a picture and they show a picture of RFK Jr. eating a dog.

Starting point is 00:54:01 Yeah, he discussed this on one of the podcasts he was on. It was a cabrito. It was a goat. Yeah, it was a goat. And he wasn't actually eating. He was just holding up the carcass, which is, that's the South American thing, isn't it? Yeah, pretending to bite it.

Starting point is 00:54:15 And it's a common thing where he was. It wasn't in Korea. It was someplace else. But then the second thing they have, and this is from Vanity Fair, I think. Is it Vanity Fair? Yeah, Vanity Fair did a hit piece on him, out of the blue. Oh, really?

Starting point is 00:54:29 And the hit piece was well... Well, you want to hear it? I have a clip, I have a clip. Well, let me just finish. It was orchestrated, obviously, way in advance. Two months ago. Because you don't, these pieces you can't write overnight. No.

Starting point is 00:54:41 A new report from Vanity Fair is leveling a range of new allegations about his conduct The author of that article Joe Hagan joins us now. He's a special correspondent for Vanity Fair Joe. Good to see you Thanks so much for being here. Tell us about how you know what you are learning about this what you found well, you know I began this reporting about two months ago and I started to hear you know whispers of this kind of thing and And I started to hear whispers of this kind of thing and reached this woman who had been through a long process of trying to decide whether she wanted to come forward. As you can imagine, it requires a lot of guts

Starting point is 00:55:14 to come on the record and talk about things like this in public against a figure like Bobby Kennedy, who's a powerful man from a powerful family. And today, as you just pointed out, those allegations came out. She was a babysitter for him in 1999, 1998, and he made some advances on her, unwanted advances on her, groped her, she says.

Starting point is 00:55:41 She recorded some of this in a diary that was concurrent with the Times. Now he was asked about it point blank today and he said he had no comment on it and also made some other comments that he's no church boy and what he did in his youth, he's got skeletons in his closet, he said. Well he was 45 at the time of these allegations, which of post post youth as far as I can tell but So he's not said anything about him He hasn't expanded on it. He hasn't rebutted it remember when Vanity Fair was kind of like just a lower rent vogue and

Starting point is 00:56:15 They had fashion and you know some celebrity stuff And mostly celebrity stuff. Yeah, and now they're doing hit pieces political hit pieces shame with an entire Operation which I think is now owned by advanced includes teen vogue Which is a socialist organ Teen vogue has way way way of it vanity fair and vogue are owned by the same publisher. Yeah. Okay, and Teen vogue is for all practical purposes a Marxist operation and they have articles in there trying to encourage teens to

Starting point is 00:56:53 think more positively about socialism. I mean it's just really terrible. Yeah. Well, you know, at least is staying with us. She's 27 And she's she runs in the circles in Brooklyn, New York she knows about our show, of course and She sent me she forwarded me a Text message that's going around, you know on the text chain And it's filled with emojis, but I'll just try and read the words because every word is an emoji It's like you just got a ticket. Ticket emoji.

Starting point is 00:57:28 To the Kamala train, the bar car is open, the conductor is zanned up, as in Xanax, and we just hit a cow without even slowing down. Fave heart and send to 10 friends or you'll fall into a K-hole forever. And none of them are voting. She says none of her friends are voting. They don't care. They've given up. So I think there's nothing. It's all gone.

Starting point is 00:57:53 All gone. What's a K-hole? Oh, when you take too much ketamine recreationally and then you... So that note was laced with drug references. Yes. Yes. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:58:09 Well, that's the general feeling is like, we're not playing. We're not playing in this. We don't care. Kamala is going to be president, whatever. We'll just continue our blue collar jobs. That's the message. It sounds like they wanted support for Kamala Harris. Yeah, but they're all laughing about it.

Starting point is 00:58:29 They think it's hilarious. Yes, the idea is they're all being pandered to, to support Kamala Harris. And they're all like, no, no, no. Well, they're going to have, you know, this is interesting because you have two schools of thought of people looking at this, about Biden quitting and there's a lot of adamant, no, he's going to be on the ticket guys who are being pushed out. And I think by the council on foreign relations, Stooges, and I think, and then the other group is that there's going to be replacing, and then there's some people that take that even Gavin Newsom

Starting point is 00:59:06 Can get any which is politically incorrect. It's not gonna happen. You can't move a black No, whatever you want to call her Advertising out and put some white slicks slick guy in Instead of her. I mean you could almost just swap out the heads and leave Kamala as vice president, but that's not gonna fly. Kamala's not gonna put up with it. The only strategy that is left,

Starting point is 00:59:32 assuming that Kamala becomes the president and then runs for a reelection as president, is to make her as viable as possible through Hollywood and, you know, smoke and mirrors and then cheat their ass off and then say, well, we always knew she could do it. You know, that, I think that's gotta be the strategy. There's no other strategy than what you just said. Exactly. There is no other strategy than phony baloney it up with her and you write, use Hollywood people, uh, do some great ads, some of those ads where you get the celebrity after celebrity and make her seem

Starting point is 01:00:13 smarter than she is and then cheat. And then claim that, Oh yeah, it was all, you know, she's, she's great. And then she's another puppet. There's who I don't know. So today is election day in the United Kingdom, which is, a couple of clips, which is hilarious. Seeing as, uh, you know, it's the day we whooped their butts. Um, what was the point of doing the election on the fourth?

Starting point is 01:00:39 Well, it's a snap election. Well, I want to hear, I have only one clip. So I'd like to hear your clips first, what you got. Well, it's a snap election. Well, I want to hear, I have only one clip, so I'd like to hear your clips first, what you got. I do have a couple of roundup clips. Roundup? Yeah, UK elections clip. Oh, good.

Starting point is 01:00:54 Bookmakers say Keir Starmer's central left opposition Labour Party is set to win a record majority in today's general election in the UK. Britain's Conservative Party all but conceded defeat to Labour yesterday, a day before polling stations even opened, and warned that the opposition party was on a course for a record-breaking victory. Facing predictions of the worst results in the party's history, the Conservatives turned their focus to damage litigation. They said they needed to hang on to enough seats to provide an effective opposition to

Starting point is 01:01:24 a Labour government. Damage litigation an effective opposition to a labor government. Damage litigation, I thought was a good term. They already gave up yesterday. The conservative Tories came out and said, well, we're okay. They conceded before one vote was cast. That's how bad it looks. Well, there was a very interesting deconstruction on the Lotus Eaters podcast. And I have a minute of that, which I think was,

Starting point is 01:01:53 and it kind of pulls back an event that happened in the last couple of months that we didn't really discuss and kind of didn't know what was going on, but I like the analysis. One last thing, if I could add to that, which is a little bit conspiratorial because there's no proper proper. You know, this is obviously why I liked it, it's conspiratorial, okay. Full blown evidence for it.

Starting point is 01:02:14 But it's sort of almost inexplicable. A lot of people have been saying like, why you described it as like a stroke. It's almost inexplicable why the Tories are being so bad, trying to get themselves re-elected. Do you remember when Obama came and visited out of the blue, came and visited Rishi? Yeah, what was he then? Hanging around. It feels like, and again there's no proper evidence for this, but it just feels like he sort of had a message from the party of Davos, from the WEF overlords, wherever it

Starting point is 01:02:43 is, saying it's time to call an election and throw it. We want Stama in now. We see a window of opportunity where Stama, our other puppet, our backup puppet, can get a massive majority and that's better for us now. So call an election and throw it. Yeah. Uniparsi stays in power forever now, which is why it's so imperative to vote reform, frankly. So we've got to make sure that Farage can get somewhere. Night for PM this time around.

Starting point is 01:03:10 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Make it happen. Very plausible. Now, remember how weird that was that Obama all of a sudden went into 10 Downing Street? That was just a couple of months ago. That's an interesting idea. There is some thought that Farage was, created this reform party to help destroy the Tories,

Starting point is 01:03:34 which he has some hard on about. And so he did and he's always, he keeps trying to become an MP. He's been trying to do that for I think 17 years. He's never made it. And whether he gets in this time or now, it's another issue and he'd be funny if he was. It would be great. It would be good for the show.

Starting point is 01:03:54 It would be great. It's for everybody. But he always kind of backs off at the end and there's a scurrilous number of substack columns about him being gay and being blackmailed. Yeah, you were all over that. Well, I was, my contact in England, Andrew Olavsky, is a writer, fellow writer. He's the one that turned me on to this, what's going on, because it turns out that Baraj

Starting point is 01:04:23 kind of creates a problem and then all of a sudden out of the blue just backs off and disappears Maybe he's just back. Maybe he just makes his money by making problems. You need a problem. You need a problem Like that problem, you need problem, but this is gonna be a laughable situation because labor just to summarize it because labor, just to summarize it, the Tories ruined the country. They didn't do anything. The public services are down the tubes. And this last year, which is what Orlovsky was,

Starting point is 01:04:53 I was talking to him on the phone, he thought it was kind of baffling is that because of Brexit, the idea of Brexit was to keep immigration down. And this last 12 months, immigration is the highest in England ever. You know, one of our friends is in the UK and she was texting Tina. She said, you know, I was on Oxford Street and it's nothing other than Muslims, women in hijabs and more.

Starting point is 01:05:31 She said, it doesn't look like London at all anymore. And London was kind of a melting pot, but now it's just, she said, it's insane. I would hate to see that happen to any city anywhere. It's just not London anymore. It's the whole street picture has just completely changed. Now, Amsterdam has some of that, Rotterdam has some of that, but not like that.

Starting point is 01:05:53 We got a boots on the ground from our Brahmin in the UK, Sir Abs. He says, hi guys, I wanna give you a boots on the ground report, the UK general elections. I'm a brown Hindu guy. John, I'm a Brahmin guy John I'm a Brahmin he says a silent revolt is occurring I'm getting whatsapp messages after whatsapp messages from black brown and white people urging each other to vote for Faraj's reform party I was not going to vote for anyone at all but I've been convinced I'm voting reform this Thursday and so is my whole

Starting point is 01:06:22 family everyone thinks labor will get the majority we We'll wait and see, he says. I saw that note and then I, after that is when I talked to Orlowski who says, he says the Farage thing was a Psi-op. And then I thought back on that note and said, well, this sounds like a Psi-op note to me. To feed our podcast with dubious information. The reform party is gonna get a few seats maybe. You're saying that a knight of the Noah's agenda roundtable is trying to psy-op us?

Starting point is 01:06:51 You think that's impossible? I think it's a high insult. I'm not insulting anybody. Just saying, it just seemed a little suspicious at the time. I'm not convinced that this whole thing...anyway, to continue with the analysis of the Tories having wrecked the country and allowing the immigration to completely take over and then public services to go down the tubes and the health services to drop dead, the Labor Party is ran on the conditions they say they're not going to change anything.

Starting point is 01:07:25 They're not going to improve anything. So most analysts, if you watch the Deutsche Welle and France 24 when they bring the Brits on, they say that's going to just get worse. Boots on the ground from our producer Craig and he and his son were in London in March. He said there was a specific stop on the tube between Heathrow and downtown where every sign was both in English and Arabic. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. So then we have France where the, where of course the far right, the far right, the far

Starting point is 01:08:01 right, oh the fascists, oh no, they're in they want all know around one tonight headlines across Europe declaring president the cron humiliated by a charismatic 28 year-old with an impoverished childhood and no university degree. Jordan bar delas far right for the fascist anti immigration party. Former Fascist, Anti-immigration party winning 33% of the vote. How can you be fascist and then like, you know, I'm going to give that up. I don't want to be a fascist anymore. Let's just be former fascist.

Starting point is 01:08:44 This is interesting reporting from effort. So when they say fascist, does that mean he was a member of the Italian Fascisti Party, the group that formed in the late 20s or in the mid-20s in Italy and became a dog whistle? An actual political party? Yeah, back when vaccines actually meant injecting a dead-end virus, you know, the words change, get with it. Far-right, former fascist, anti-immigration party winning 33% of the vote. We need a change, this supporter says. It's not the France I knew, says this woman, reacting to the result. At a polling station in Dij the show 3 hours from the capital we

Starting point is 01:09:26 found huge numbers voting battling for the soul of a deeply divided country to people outside of Paris feel forgotten by the government yet in the room is a Parisian into the world. It lives in an ivory tower says this rival candidate disconnected from reality tonight, France winning a major soccer match in Germany, but this superstar captain his father an immigrant warning extremists are at the door.

Starting point is 01:09:55 Fans of the European tournament last week telling us inflation and immigration ought to blame for this unprecedented post war right wing large. I understand why people are angry do you think people are forgetting their history. Oh yeah, they show all of that kind of spinning it in a way that suits them. The French far right has been negative on the European Union

Starting point is 01:10:20 and positive towards Putin Europe's future rests on the vote next Sunday. I like the right-wing lurch. We just lurch to the right everybody. What's that got to do with communist Russia? So, I mean, you're either fascist or a super right-winger that is a fascist. But Russia is not communist anymore. It's not communist Russia. No, it's fascist. It somehow turned fascist. But Russia's not communist anymore. Is that communist Russia? No, it's fascist. It somehow turned fascist.

Starting point is 01:10:46 That's interesting. Now, to the actual program. How does that work, I wonder? This is no... The news is... Bullshit! People just need to listen to podcasts because the news is not serving you. It's no good.

Starting point is 01:11:00 So now let's look at what these guys are actually doing when it comes to the coveted climate change. Oh no! Well, the party's manifesto does not mention climate change or net zero targets. It does mention the environment, but through the angle of environmental norms, which they argue penalize economic growth. And you find the same language of so-called punitive norms that they have used in the past. And the National Rally, they pledged, and I quote, to defend the quality

Starting point is 01:11:32 of life of French people by rejecting all punitive ecology. Now those, what you see there on the screen are some key energy-related proposals that the National Rally has put forward. Some of them, environmentalists fear, could weaken France's climate ambitions. At least two of them. The first one being to lower VAT on all energy products from 20% to 5.5%. So that includes fuel, energy, electricity, gas and heating oil, which in a way could be used as a tool to promote fossil fuels. They also plan to invest in hydrogen, geothermal energy and also nuclear reactors. Now when it comes to hydrogen and geothermal, those are two things that are currently in

Starting point is 01:12:18 development but nothing shows they could be deployed on a large scale in France at the moment. Nuclear reactors, before they are actually built, nuclear reactor is going to take years before we have them. And they also more importantly, they also plan to end subsidies for wind power projects and even cancel all projects, bearing in mind that solar and wind power they make up 15% of France's power generation and they also help avoid 22 million tons of carbon dioxide every single year. These guys are on the right track. Shut down those stupid windmills and the solar and get some nuke in there and pander a little

Starting point is 01:13:01 bit to the hydrogen crowd whatever and lower the taxes 22% to 5%. Yeah. That will make France prosper. That's obvious. Yeah. The world is upside down. Everyone's gone crazy. They go crazy. It's noticeably. You have a couple of tick-tock clips. I want to get out of here. Oh good. I'm so happy.

Starting point is 01:13:28 We just had our Pride event in San Francisco, which became very scandalous. Oh man, the world round they were showing pictures like, people took their children to see this? So let's play this. This is a TikToker bitching. And this is a Tik, talking about SF Pride. And she's a, I believe she's a reporter or somebody that covers the event and here she,

Starting point is 01:13:50 here she's not happy. Is this the pride or the pride rant? I think it's about the same. Oh, okay. I go with pride rant. I don't know. Oh, that's, oh, that's, oh, that's interesting. Okay. Yeah. Pride rant. Okay. I feel physically ill after spending the day at San Francisco Pride. Now, I've been to quite a few Pride events,

Starting point is 01:14:10 but this one was by far the most disturbing, and it was because they were nudists there that were fully erect in front of children, standing in a way to make sure that everybody saw their fully exposed penises. There were adults grabbing other people's genitals and other adults masturbating. There was a fetish zone in which people were peeing on each other. So again, I'm just, I'm shocked and horrified after experiencing this. Keep in mind that this is an

Starting point is 01:14:42 all ages event. There were children present. The fetish zone was an 18 plus area But there were no IDs being checked and again, there were adults essentially having sex in public. I Am shocked I've never experienced such a vulgar display of Promiscuity, I mean, I don't even know what to say in terms of this. I'm shocked and horrified and I don't think I'm ever going to cover Pride ever again after after what I witnessed today. It was the worst of the worst. It was bad. Yeah I agree it was shameful. What I saw was just like what are you

Starting point is 01:15:24 kidding? I thought some of it was maybe kind of amplified by some. No, it was pretty, uh, it was covered locally and everyone's kind of like, didn't know what to make of it. But they're all, but they're all too afraid to go stand up and say, Hey, stop this idiocy. Aren't they? Everyone's afraid of being canceled. They had the cops there. The cops were walking by. There was, I don't have this clip, but I'll tell you what happened. There's a woman, two lesbian police officers are walking down the thing. I said, is this legal? And they said, well, you know, it all depends on the circumstance.

Starting point is 01:15:58 And they were making all these excuses for these guys walking around the hard on in front of a bunch of kids and then in the this one little zone of fetish zone they called it where there's just a guy in a this rubberized swimming pools you know the little yeah yeah the they're in there the guys on his on his stomach or on his back and there's a bunch of guys peeing on him. And people say. Wait a minute, wait a minute. That's a clear violation. You're not supposed to urinate in the pool. Clear violation. And so they're, it was gross. Sodom and Gomorrah Francisco is what it is. Sodom and Gomorrah Francisco.

Starting point is 01:16:34 It was gross and like somebody pointed out, the gay community has gone all the way to push and push gay marriage and all the rest of it. And I always had this friend, he said, they're just going to want more. That's that's not the gay community. That is no, it's not. It's a fetish weirdo community that's that unfortunately is not being held to check and held it to account to account. Yeah, that's exactly right.

Starting point is 01:17:00 And the police aren't doing it. It's almost like they're doing it on purpose and allowing it on purpose. And the police are turning a blind eye to it. The whole thing seems like a setup. You need to revolt over there. You should lead that. I don't care. It's good for the show.

Starting point is 01:17:16 And so it's like a setup to make sure that Trump gets elected. I'm just, there's something fishy about the whole thing. And he makes a twist. Okay. All right. There you go. We're a broken country, Mr. President. Come save us. It's, I mean, I'm actually kind of speechless about what they were doing.

Starting point is 01:17:41 I come from Amsterdam. No way. No way. This is insane. In front of children. And of course, this is the San Francisco government that allowed this, but I think they just naively allowed it not understanding the mechanism. I say this once every couple of months, get out. Well, I'm not there. I'm at East Bay. I'm not anywhere near there. It's spreading. They didn't have a gay parade here.

Starting point is 01:18:05 It's spreading. It's not spreading. Those two New York Times readers across the street, they're gonna start walking around. No, there's New York Times readers all over the place. That's what I'm saying. And the thing is, you can map them because they have... The New York Times is always wrapped in a blue, uh, piece of plastic. So if you drive down the street after the delivery,

Starting point is 01:18:30 you can see, oh, New York times, you can see all the all their stooges that read the New York times almost exclusive. They don't even read the local paper. They just read the New York times. It's so sad. You do want to do more. Do you want to do more Tik Tok clips? Yeah, I got some good, yeah. These are not about the gay thing, but. Hold on. All right. Yeah, let's get these out of the way.

Starting point is 01:18:47 Yeah, because. Now this is a good one. This is a racist one. I didn't know any of this, but. This is a racist one. Did you know that when you say good morning, that's racist? Yeah, because I've seen this one. The reason why I don't use the term good morning,

Starting point is 01:19:10 did you know back in slavery days after the masters had beaten us, taken our children, raped us, hung us, burned us, and then left us in a dark shed overnight, they would literally open up the door and they would greet us by saying, did you have a good morning? Meaning, did you cry all night over the things that we've done to your loved ones? So this is the reason why I took good morning out of my vocabulary because truly if you think about it, there is absolutely nothing good about morning.

Starting point is 01:19:54 Ashe Ashe. Ashe Ashe. What is that? What is Ashe Ashe? I don't know, but this is a classic Roseanne, Roseanne, a dana kind of thing. Where you just, I questioned the validity of that. I will, I will give you that. I think it could have been a staged stage.

Starting point is 01:20:12 Here's a, here's one I'm pretty sure is also semi-stage, but it's not, but it's funny. This is the followers clip. This was on a Dr. Phil and ended up on Tik Tok. I mean, I don't talk to my family. They're irrelevant. They're irrelevant. clip. This was on Dr. What do you care if she has followers or not? It's your mother. Can anyone tell me what I would talk to my mom about if she's not going to be making me relevant? Yeah, like, hi mom. Now I have a career and I'm famous. That's what happens when you get famous, you cut people off. Seriously? Everyone's upset with it maybe because you guys aren't relevant either so you don't understand. Yeah see this is this is what Dr.

Starting point is 01:21:15 Phil does wrong. The whole what was his what's his new media company up there they started in Dallas something street yeah I don't remember. Nutjob Street media. Nutjob Street. And so he'll do like series. He'll sit down with President Trump. He'll do a serious interview. And then he brings this dip crap on. I was like, come on, this is insulting.

Starting point is 01:21:37 And it just brings down all alternative media. And he's just polluting the waters. Yeah. No more Dr. Philip Lewis. I'm not gonna argue. alternative media and he's he's he's just polluting the waters yeah no more I'm not gonna argue I want the last one here is the podcast rant oh boy can't be the only person who thinks it's insane that we're already collectively forgetting where the word podcast comes from I mean since the iPod has become obsolete there's no reason for people in the future to piece together that the word came from iPod plus broadcast but the even crazier thing about podcast outliving its conceptual origins is that the exact same

Starting point is 01:22:08 thing already happened with the word broadcast, which used to refer to an agricultural technique of widely dispersing seeds on the ground. Then that got abstracted as a metaphor for widely dispersing information to the public, and then about a hundred years later, that got turned into the word podcast. And this keeps getting crazier the more you think about it because what's the word pod the iPod was named in reference to a scene from the movie 2001 a space Odyssey where the main character says open the pod bay doors How and the pod bay doors in question were named because of their visual similarity to biological plant pods Which are just vessels for carrying seeds

Starting point is 01:22:40 So somehow podcast traces back to a word for something that carries seeds and a word for dispersing seeds All right. I'm going to turn off your access to tick-tock. You're not you're no longer allowed to watch Specifically for you for your files your podcasting files So you can have it in the collection refer to it if necessary In case I need to remember where the term podcast came from. Yeah, because we're going to soon forget. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:23:10 Okay. You've put me in irons here. I have a brain freeze now. I can't do anything after that. There's nowhere to go. Let's go to Gaza and do a quick Gaza thing. Well actually, I do have Gaza. You have Gaza too. Let me start with my safe zone clips from Gaza. An Israeli airstrike killed 12 Palestinians in Almawassi on Tuesday despite the fact that it has been designated as a safe zone by Israel. These Palestinians have been fleeing from the east and part of Charn Younis in droves,

Starting point is 01:23:50 continuing overnight. They've described there's been an intense bombardment around Charn Younis, some of the heaviest fighting in that second biggest city in the Gaza Strip since Israeli troops withdrew there in early April. There's one hospital source that said Schelling killed at least eight people and people have been really heading west, some to other parts of Charn Younis and many more to this area which the Israeli military has declared a safe zone along the coast, the Al Mawasi area. It's about 14 kilometers

Starting point is 01:24:23 long but of course people are struggling to find space there. The reason that Chernunis had become so crowded after it was largely left in ruins following that months long Israeli military offensive there against what the Israeli military said was a stronghold of Hamas earlier in the war. This is starting to bum me out, man. This is, they're a stop. And this is just the military industrial complex. Let's just do more. Let's keep more war going on.

Starting point is 01:24:53 Keep it in the news. BBC. Good job, everybody. I'm sure you have some clips. Well, I have NTD because the BBC is terrible. NTD is just amateurish, but they got better analysis. This is just a, they brought an analyst on to talk about some of the Gaza stuff. And I think it's at least giving us some insight. Although, you know, I don't

Starting point is 01:25:16 even believe that last one you played, I don't even believe any of this. These reports out of Gaza, we can't trust any of it on either side. It's all propaganda. Earlier, we spoke with David Wormser, Middle East Affairs Analyst at the Center for Security Policy about where things currently stand in the Israel-Hamas War. David Wormser, thank you so much for joining us. Great to have you back on the show. Now, the IDF says that over 1,000 terrorists have been killed in Ra'afa.

Starting point is 01:25:44 These are ones that they know. This doesn't include ones that are buried in the rubble. Given that, where do things currently stand in terms of the Israel-Hamas war? Yeah, good question. I think that Israel has essentially now destroyed the functional military structure of Hamas. Namely, they can't really operate as significant units against Israel. But what they can do is they break down into little squads that suddenly show up.

Starting point is 01:26:16 They can do terrorist attacks. They may still be able to launch missiles here and there, very few, but some, mostly short-range, because they're smaller. They may have a very, very few, but some, mostly short-range because they're smaller. They may have a very, very limited ability to continue to produce a few missiles here and there. So the Israelis, I think, have more or less shut down this as a problem from October 7th levels.

Starting point is 01:26:39 What they still face, though, is they need to keep Gaza quite restricted, which means they need to keep the border area between Egypt and Gaza under their control so that new, because Hamas still exists as an organization and it still has enough territory and enough people who would join it that it can reconstitute its force very rapidly within a few months or a year. And the know-how is there. So the Israelis really have to constrict what goes in and controls very carefully, that it can't be used to build weapons, build new tunnels.

Starting point is 01:27:12 And they have to maintain security control over the area, which means they have to be able to go anywhere in that territory at any time to arrest somebody, to take down a tunnel that's starting to be built, a missile factory that comes. So it's now small insurgency warfare that Israel faces. I think the story that's built around it, whether it's the BBC's version or NTD's version, is kind of irrelevant. The idea is annihilate everything.

Starting point is 01:27:40 Egypt may even want to open the gate, but now the Israelis are like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, sad. It's just like this. Well, you got two people. This is the Hatfields and the McCoys. They hate each other. Isaac and Ishmael. I mean, it goes back a long way. Yeah, it keeps going back. It's been around since I was a kid.

Starting point is 01:28:10 I remember this going on. Yes, Isaac and Ishmael days, yes. When I was a kid during Ishmael's era. Yeah, it's, yeah. So it's almost ludicrous to cover it, but let's play back to the time when we were in the New York Times. It was a time when we were in the New York Times.

Starting point is 01:28:18 It was a time when we were in the New York Times. It was a time when we were in the New York Times. It was a time when we were in the New York Times. It was a time when we were in the New York Times. It was a time when we were in the New York Times. It was a time when we were in the New York Times. It was a time when we were in the New York Times. It was a time when we were in the New York Times. It was a time when we were in the New York Times. It was a time when we were in the New York Times. It was a time during Ishmael's era. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's so it's almost ludicrous to cover it, but let's play part two of these. On that note, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has indicated privately that he

Starting point is 01:28:36 could accept involvement by the Palestinian Authority in a post-war Gaza. Now, this is according to a report. Given that, what are the likely next steps for Israel here? I think it'd be very difficult for them to really accept a Palestinian Authority for a couple reasons. One is they see the Palestinian Authority becoming increasingly hostile. They never really had peace with the Palestinian Authority, which is mostly now in the West Bank and Judea and Samaria.

Starting point is 01:29:05 So the Israelis, I don't think, trust that not to produce another threatening force that arises in Gaza. So I don't think they can really let them in on that level. The second thing is I don't think they really want to reward Hamas for doing this war by essentially creating a new Palestinian government. But most importantly, I think the Israelis feel they need to maintain security control over the territory. So I don't believe that really the Palestinian authorities in the car, the Israelis much would prefer to work with

Starting point is 01:29:39 local powers in the area, families, clans, tribes, more traditional structures and create a very bottom-up governing structure that eventually has more and more power. But at the beginning is really under their direct occupation. You know, when the October 7th happened, which of course has the moniker October 7th to make it sound like September 11th. They were right. It was a false flag. Netanyahu and whoever else was involved, the military industrial complex, the defense industrial base, let it happen. They knew that something could happen. They knew they were teaming up. They wanted this. Jared Kushner wants his condos, his Oceanview villas, the golf course,

Starting point is 01:30:30 everything. This was a setup. They want it. They want war in the Middle East. They want war, war, war. That's why AIPAC is funded by the defense contractors. They just want war, more money with war. And strike in southern Lebanon and Hezbollah launching over 100 rockets at Israel in response. It comes as Hezbollah and Israeli officials have traded threats of annihilation in recent weeks. But Israel and US sources telling ABC News both Hezbollah and Israel have essentially agreed to broad parameters of a US broker deal that would stave off a war. An agreement Hezbollah said it cannot sign until there is a ceasefire in Gaza. But in Gaza, no signs of a truce. Israel is in its sixth day of a raid in the north,

Starting point is 01:31:34 the fighting visible from nearby Israeli villages. We can hear the small arms fire now taking place in Shejahia. There is a battle going on in there. And in the southern part of the Gaza Strip, the IDF ordering mass evacuations in the eastern part of Khan Yunis. An estimated 250,000 Gazans impacted, women and children seen piled into carts, many sleeping in the streets. Asmahan breaking down from the fear and uncertainty saying, I don't think it will remain safe we have been displaced multiple times with the ceasefire talks are creaking ahead one of the main sticking points as we understand it is that Hamas wants a full withdrawal of Israeli troops but an Israeli official telling

Starting point is 01:32:15 me today that they intend to hold parts of the Gaza Strip for months yeah we just keep it going that's good send more stuff over there. Here's the NTD version of the Hezbollah report. In Lebanon, an Israeli strike killed a senior Hezbollah commander on Wednesday morning. Israel's defense minister says this about the escalating tensions in Lebanon. We are striking Hezbollah very hard every day, and we will also reach a state of full readiness. We prefer an arrangement, but if reality forces us, we will know how to fight. And in the West Bank, four Gazans have been laid to rest after they were killed in an Israeli strike on Tuesday.

Starting point is 01:32:57 The Israeli army says the strike hit terrorists hiding in the area. Also in the West Bank, a settlement tracking group on Wednesday said that Israel approved the largest seizure of land in over three decades, almost five square miles. That's bigger than 2000 football fields combined. So once we have Lebanon, which is of course Hezbollah, then we only have a couple more on the West Clark 7. Sudan was always on the list. And there's news from Sudan.

Starting point is 01:33:28 Here's my Africa clip. Let's turn now to the continuing conflict in Sudan. The UN says humanitarian agencies there have faced looting on an industrial scale since the civil war between the army and the paramilitary group, the Rapid Support Forces, erupted more than a year ago. The UN also says starvation is being used as a weapon of war in Sudan. It's been warning of an imminent famine with 25 million people urgently needing humanitarian assistance. A senior UN official told the BBC that hundreds of millions of dollars worth of aid had been lost.

Starting point is 01:34:04 the BBC that hundreds of millions of dollars worth of aid had been lost. That's the same script as Gaza. Whatever happened to them dying of hunger in Gaza, that left the scene. Remember that? They were famine. They were starving to death. That's gone. And then Iran, we don't really know much about the new puppet. Curiously, that is's gone but also is the piers gone. That thing's totally gone. And the pier was to keep the famine from happening supposedly. Yeah the famine's over so it's all good. How does that work?

Starting point is 01:34:35 Yeah and so we run we got a new puppeting coming and there's a runoff so we'll see and we don't know much about the new guy. We'll find out. This is Reuters. Tell me they're not using AI voices in this short clip. To Iran, where, after an election campaign dominated by hardliners, moderate presidential hopeful Masoud Pazeshkian has made it into a runoff. The 69 year olds was up against candidates who more closely reflect the fiercely anti-Western stance of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Peseshkian narrowly beat hardliner Saeed Jalili for first place, and they now go to a runoff this Friday.

Starting point is 01:35:22 I think that's AI. Well, the pronunciation of Hominet Was good, was good, was good. Was awfully good for AI. I mean, it has a flat monotone style that sounds very much like AI. She should probably find some other work. Then we have the final theater,

Starting point is 01:35:41 which is Ukraine, of course, that continues. Dead bodies everywhere, which we never see. Don't show that on the news. You can't do that. Putin made a statement about the possibility of Trump becoming president again. Well, you know, the fact that Mr. Trump, as a presidential candidate, says that he's ready and wants to stop the war in Ukraine. We take that very seriously. I haven't seen his ideas on how exactly he's going to do that.

Starting point is 01:36:16 And that is the key question. But I have no doubt that he says that sincerely and we support that. Yeah, Putin's open. He's open. That was read by the mainstream media as Putin endorses Trump. Really? I didn't get that one. Yeah. Somehow now that means Putin is endorsing Trump, the Russians, those damn Russians. Makes nothing but sense. And with that happy news,

Starting point is 01:36:46 I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in Biden in a coma. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John C. Devorak. There we go. Yeah, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. Also in the morning, there are ships and sea,

Starting point is 01:37:04 boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Yeah, it's not surprising that we're a little bit lower. It is, of course, fourth of July weekend. Happy birthday, America. Still, unbelievably, we have 1,655 trolls in the troll room. Let me see what we have on the last.

Starting point is 01:37:30 It's reasonable for Thursday. The last Thursday we had 1,657, so we're only two down? Wow, that's pretty good. Now think about it. Well, I'm glad to see you all here celebrating with us trolls, thank you. And thank you to Darren O'Neill for doing the pre-stream. That was quite nice that he got everybody ready

Starting point is 01:37:51 for the big show. This is our value for value proposition. You can listen to it like the trolls are doing and contribute by trolling along. And they are usually quite helpful. They help us out with real-time fact checking, which is usually ignored, but, you know, one line is all kinds of good stuff comes through. You can join them at trollroom.io, which is our brand new interface to the No Agenda Stream,

Starting point is 01:38:20 which is on 24 hours a day. Or you can use a modern podcast app, which you can find at podcastapps.com. Go and pick one up, like Podcast Guru. I've been using that as my daily driver for a while. I really like it. And you'll get notes. People sometimes send me screenshots and they have like the Apple Podcast app, and then somebody who's Podverse or Fountain or Podcast Guru. and you'll see that the modern podcast apps notify you within 90 seconds of us publishing it, between 15 minutes and two to three hours before any of those legacy apps actually notify you. And they could join in, by the way. They're just too arrogant. Like, we're Apple. We can't be a part of your system.

Starting point is 01:39:05 Yeah. No, it's not invented here syndrome. No. Nimby. Exactly. No, that's not in my backyard. Yeah. Well, same thing.

Starting point is 01:39:13 It's not in their backyard. Yeah. Well, we are in their backyard. We're breathing down their neck. Podcastapps.com. We also, you know, the New York Times has now a new strategy for their podcast. New strategy. We're going to keep the ads, but we're now also going to put it behind a paywall.

Starting point is 01:39:32 But you're going to drop the podcast. It's just going to be ads. No, they're now putting serial and check it out, The Daily. That's their daily news podcast. Yeah, that's their big hit. They're going to put it behind the paywall. Daily, that's their daily news podcast. Yeah, that's their big hit. They're gonna put it behind the paywall. Well, that's dumb. Yes, it's the stupid, they don't realize.

Starting point is 01:39:53 They don't get it. That just like Howard Stern, and I would say to agree Joe Rogan, when he went behind the Spotify paywall, you do lose some relevance. Howard Stern really lost relevance altogether. I think Joe was you know is good lose money But you know, okay fine But that just leaves us out here to to entertain the plebs

Starting point is 01:40:16 Which is fine by me. We just pick up more because you can't have 20 subscriptions to all your favorite podcasts. They're just not gonna work. People can't even buy fireworks this year to just light off willy-nilly. So they're not gonna do that. I think it's a fundamental mistake. They should use that as a loss leader to draw people in and give them special deals on Wordle. It's not like people subscribe for the news.

Starting point is 01:40:43 You're dead right. If you were producing it, which you're not, that's exactly what you'd do. You would have it as, it's not even a loss leader. You can run ads in it. They do. They can make money. Kinda.

Starting point is 01:40:58 They have an advertising department that sells ads at the newspaper. You can bundle it with the podcast ad. Yeah. So that wouldn't even be a loss leader. Yeah. So the idea of putting it behind a paywall is idiotic. What's the point? And they're going to keep running the ads behind the paywall. Can you believe it? So there you go.

Starting point is 01:41:17 So now you're going to get less listenership. So the ads are less effective and the advertisers are going to say, what? You don't know. I'm not. No. And think about the meetings they're going to have to have with the advertisers. Well, you're not quite getting the reach you used to when you were about before I went behind the paywall. Yeah. But these are qualified New York Times listeners. Oh, the ones that urinate on each other in San Francisco in the pool. Yeah, they're buyers. They got money. They got lots of money.

Starting point is 01:41:48 They got money to piss away, I tell you. Ooh, I know. I did it. I did it. Instead, we we hate meetings. We don't meet with each other. This is, you know, there was a big article about value for value, which is quite nice. Yeah, where was this? It was, let me see. It was nice. There's one thing I didn't like about this article.

Starting point is 01:42:13 Let me see if I can find it real quick for you. Who wrote this thing? Did they call you and get a comment? Nope. No, they called other people, of course. And they never call me. Uh, Descript. Well, Descript is, is actually, um, it's a very successful editing, uh, program, Descript, they use AI, you know, and, uh, they had this whole article.

Starting point is 01:42:41 What is value for value podcast monetization? And should you do it? And so, who wrote this article? This was written by Courtney Kokak. She's pretty successful podcaster and talks about time, talent and treasure. Value for value asks listeners to reciprocate the value they receive from a podcast with time, talent or treasure. Time. They even use our catchphrases.

Starting point is 01:43:11 So she obviously gave us a big plug in that thing, didn't she, in the write-up? She did, she did. Okay, well I'm not happy with that. Crediting Adam Curry, I can't, that didn't say John C. Dvorak. Well that's no good. Podcasting's inventor.

Starting point is 01:43:25 He has some crush on you. With pioneering value for value through his show, his, his show. I'm not even in the picture anymore. The show has thrived on direct audience support for over 15 years. It's almost 17, without any advertising. So, Curry is a big proponent and success story for the audience support. So, what was this woman's name? Courtney, Courtney, Kocak.

Starting point is 01:43:58 Courtney, Kocak? Kocak, K-O-C-O-C-A-K. But here's the part that I didn't like. Um, let me see. I'm going down here. Um, no, I must've skipped over it. The origins. Yeah. Okay.

Starting point is 01:44:19 Okay. But, but Adam Curry isn't the sole mastermind behind Value for Value. This is obviously where they should have brought in John C. Dvorak. Nope. Many people believe founding wire editor Kevin Kelly's seminal blog post, 1000 true fans was the catalyst for value for value. What? Let me go look at this blog post.

Starting point is 01:44:49 When was this posted? This blog post was posted in 2008, so it was around the same time. Although we were earlier with our value for you probably lifted it from us. I know. I think. I didn't like that. I didn't like that. It was like, and you push us out.

Starting point is 01:45:11 It was Kelly, his name Courtney, Courtney, Co-Cock, Co-Cock, Co-Cock, Co-Cock. Let's see what she's about. There's a link here. Courtney Co-Cock. Founder and host of Podcast Bestie. Podcast what? Podcast Bestie. Podcast what?

Starting point is 01:45:29 Podcast Bestie. You know, like she's my bestie. John, you're my- Podcast Bestie. Yes. Los Angeles based writer, podcaster, and comedian. Oh, another comedian with a podcast. She does do her podcast value for value though. I'll give her that.

Starting point is 01:45:45 Oh, good. Good for her. Yeah. She's, she's your John, she's your podcast bestie. You're underwhelmed. Uh, I hate her. You don't actually hate anybody. I do. I hate her. I mean, she's a phony. That's the way I see it. Well, I think it's despicable because if anyone had spoken to me, I would of course said we and our.

Starting point is 01:46:12 We pioneered, created and developed the name, certainly the name, the idea, the idea also, and we have a whole genesis for it. It was an accidental discovery almost like dynamite or nitroglycerin and I would have said our podcast. I never I never would let that dangle out there that it's just rude which also means she probably has never listened. I'm guessing she's never listened to the podcast and she just I don't know where she where she got the idea that it's a solo. She makes it sound like a solo podcast. Yeah, it's not right. Sometimes it is, but generally speaking.

Starting point is 01:46:50 No, it's not right. I mean, the only thing that, she would have made only worse if she'd added Kara Swisher into the mix. That would have made it worse. She didn't do that, luckily. So for those of you who have read that article and have tuned in here,

Starting point is 01:47:03 let's show you how it really works because we have actual true value for value. It's not Patreon. Patreon is not value for value. That's levels and subscriptions. No, we leave it up to people to send us whatever they think the show is worth and however they want to contribute back value. Show me one other podcast that has its entire infrastructure, all its websites managed by the producer. And also to put in there, we don't have listeners. We don't have fans. We don't have fans. Our fans don't support the show. We have producers who create this with us together, give us boots on the ground, clips, information, insight, because everyone is an expert at something.

Starting point is 01:47:42 That's what makes this podcast the best podcast in the universe. And we also have artists and not just artists, Dutch masters, Dutch masters who create art for us for every single episode, 10, 20, 30 pieces sometimes for us to choose from and select the absolute creme de la creme, such as Dame Kenny Bent's excellent Biden off the rails train art for episode 1673, which we titled Mummy and the Dummy. You love the train picture, you hated the title. You actually said you owe me one for that. Yeah, I did do that. I didn't like the title. But I relented. And the train art I did like it it was the first thing I saw. And I saw this is just the way I saw it actually.

Starting point is 01:48:30 During our previous segment, it was it lingered. She got it in early. Yes, she did. And yeah, it does. It says the whole thing train going off the rails. It was it was perfect. What else was there? There was... There wasn't anything else really.

Starting point is 01:48:49 No, there really wasn't. It was actually less than normal selection. I think the reason, I'll tell you what I think. Okay. I think the artists look at the art before they start to submit and they saw that piece. Oh, and they went, that's it, I'm done, I'm toast. I can't beat that piece. Not even gonna try. Yeah, I think you artists look at the art before they start to submit and they saw that piece. Oh, and they went, that's it, I'm done, I'm toast. I can't beat that piece.

Starting point is 01:49:08 I'm not even going to try. Yeah, I think you're right. That does happen. That does happen, definitely. That's what happens when a good piece comes in early. If she had put the piece in late, we would have had a lot more art. And also I'll say that artists are wrong. It's not entirely true.

Starting point is 01:49:23 In this case, yeah. Oh, no, I think they're wrong most of the time. And also I'll say that's not that artists are wrong. It's not entirely true in this case. Yeah. Oh, no, they're all there. I think they're wrong most of the time. That's why they're artists and not art directors. Yeah. And, and if you, I remember during the era and the heyday of the no agenda,

Starting point is 01:49:37 forums, not forums. I thought you were going to say no agenda, no agenda, whatever is social. That dead. That website. Yes. In the heyday of that, the artists had this little click and they would pre predict what they thought

Starting point is 01:49:51 was going to win. And they were continually wrong. They were all in there saying, I think your piece is the best. They were, they were complimenting. They're a bunch of, you know, they're, they're blowing each other and they're talking about their art and they were always wrong. We always pick something generally, uh, different. Well, we appreciate it. They don't have the taste of an artist necessarily. They're just artists. Artists are artists.

Starting point is 01:50:16 All of them, all of them are artists. All of them are appreciated and loved. Uh, we, we really do love what you do. And we even love going like, oh, that's a horrible piece, but we love that person. We say that frequently, oh, I really love that person, but that artist is not gonna fly. You do that with Darren. Yes, all the time.

Starting point is 01:50:37 And Darren just wants to hear us talk about him. That's all. Darren always puts in a reasonable piece that could be used. It's always usable. Yeah, that is exactly Darren. He's Mr. Usable. If I had a radio station, you know, back in the day when it mattered, I would have Darren

Starting point is 01:50:53 on staff because you can say Darren, someone dropped out of the midnight shift, you're in. Darren, the morning zoo guy is out, Darren, you're in. Darren can do it all. He really can. He's amazing. Multi-talented. I agree. He's incredibly talented. Yes. He's no Dutch master though. That's what separates all these artists that usually win. Go to NoahGenderArtGenerator.com. You can see all of the art. You can even participate. You can create an account.

Starting point is 01:51:26 You can upload. You can play along. And if you're using a modern podcast app, check out the chapters. Look at what Dreb Scott does. He uses a lot of different pieces from the art generator in the chapter. So really everybody wins.

Starting point is 01:51:39 There's no losers. Part of the value for value model is we want you to send us treasure. We appreciate whatever the amount is that equals the value that you get from the show. That's very simple how it works. No one can look into your pocketbook. So whatever you're handing out, we just presume it's what you think the show is worth. We do have some extra love for executive and associate executive producers who come in

Starting point is 01:52:02 $200 above. We read your note $300 above for an executive producership credit. And we read your note as well. And we want to highlight them just like Hollywood earlier on in the show. And we kick it off today with anonymous from Charlotte, North Carolina, who comes in with seven four one four two. So what is that? What is that? Some kind of oh, it's 704.33 plus fees and Anonymous says happy 4th of July gents. Here's 704.33 plus fees to mark the occasion

Starting point is 01:52:34 July 4th, obviously. Thank you for the outstanding product anonymous and we say thank you and happy 4th of July Sir Ichabod is next. He comes in from Lake Forest, Washington at 333.34. In the morning, Kevin McLaughlin is truly a great American and I'm proud to sit at the same round table as him. Yay. Uh, jingle requests, Raven, JCD boobs, uh, Patriot Karma, please don't hurt the baby seals, Sir Ichabod of the bike path gobble in Stowe, it says it's in Lake Forest,

Starting point is 01:53:13 Washington but he's actually in Stowe, Vermont. He moved. Here she is. Raven, give it up. Boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boob And coming in with 333.33 another anonymous donor Sioux Falls South Dakota no note so we'll hand out a note. I have a note. Do you have a note? You sure this is the note? You have another note for different notes. Notes and paper came in as a check. Oh okay you have a note.

Starting point is 01:53:59 Keep up the, it's just ITM John and Adam, keep up the good work. Your analysis is almost always spot on. All right. You're always there to spin us down after the fear-mongering media spins us up. That's right. Please stop looking for exit strategies. PS. I 100% underlined agree Christie gnome doesn't want to be VP even someone who puffs their lips up to balloons Yes nose to leave pets out of the mix Anonymous in Sioux Falls Anonymous thank you you. You've got Karma. Crazy puffs.

Starting point is 01:54:53 You gonna do the next one? Yeah. Yeah, you're on Sir Hair Heist. Oh, okay. Sir Hair Heal. No, Keith, what'd I say heist? I don't know. You're insane. Sir Hair Heal. White Salmon, Washington, 333, Jobs Karma and F Cancer please. Well, we got that for you. Fucking go!

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Starting point is 01:55:33 Here's 248 for America's 248th birthday. Ah, there was the gimmick we missed. That's right. Or I missed. This brings me to baronet-tess status. Thanks for, uh, thanks and enjoy the day. Love you guys. Dame Kelly of the longest island. Well, thank you very much Dame Kelly and we'll see you at the upgrade table later. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:55:53 You know, I, you sent me the text for the newsletter and it never came in. And then I realized that my entire inbox had gone away. And somehow my Thunderbird had, had marked everything as spam. So that's why I never, never saw it. I like, but people came up with it themselves. Like sir Scott and Dame Elizabeth from Gardner, Kansas, 248. ITM John and Adam, since you're both working on another holiday, the 4th of July, we tend to do that.

Starting point is 01:56:23 It was time to contribute to the no agenda cause. Please accept this donation of 248 to commemorate 248 years since America declared its independence, that both that you both do to keep us sane in these trying times. Sir Scott, protector of the hobby farm and Dame Elizabeth in Gardner, Kansas and they wanted the kettle calling the pot jingle and I happen to have that one here. Hello, kettle, this is the Pot calling. There you go. You got it. You know, it should have been, I did this in a couple of newsletters.

Starting point is 01:57:12 I think the one from 2017, I should have done it again, which is the 4th of July should have been the 2nd of July celebration. That's correct. Yes, yes. Erica, Erica, Erica, Kochig, Kochig in Marietta, Georgia. Kochig maybe Kochig, Kochig, just guessing. 21060. Hike, comrades!

Starting point is 01:57:36 It's that time of the year where my human resource, Hogan, celebrates his birthday. He'll be eight on the fourth, fifth time zone problems when you're both in China. China. China. China. China. China. He loves his uncle John and Adam and still thinks everything's a scam. He's gonna go far in life. No doubt. That's my guess. All right. Good boy. Eli the coffee guy is still in Bensonville, Illinois 20704. Another variation of the 4th of July.

Starting point is 01:58:13 Thank you. He says to John Adam and all of Gitmo Nation, happy Independence Day. Since the sons of Liberty first threw tea into the Boston Harbor, coffee has been the morning beverage of America. As patriotic a drink today as it was then. You should visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. Can I get the Team America jingle? Stay caffeinated, Eli the coffee guy.

Starting point is 01:58:38 If there's a need for a rescue mission, when the world is threatened, the world needs help, it calls on America. And that's the story. Classic. Classic, Eli. Thanks. And that's the story. And here's the last story, which is our last donor.

Starting point is 01:58:59 It's actually a short list. Now, Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado, of course, she comes in and asks for jobs, Carmen, $200 for a resume that gets results, she writes. Go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs and work with Linda Lu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. Thanks for the jingles and shout outs. She got an extra one last show. Happy fourth. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. And that concludes our executive and associate executive producer credits for episode 1674. Go to noagendadonations.com. Donate anything that represents the value that you get out of the podcast.

Starting point is 01:59:42 Of course, you can support us with time, talent and treasure. That's what the KOKAK lady says. So it must be true value for value. And thank you for producing episode 1674. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. This is kind of interesting. Do you remember that I talked to my pals about the testing industrial complex? Health officials. Yeah, your testing buddies. Yeah, my testing buddies. And do you remember what you remember?

Starting point is 02:00:42 I was like, okay, well, is it bird flu? Is it bird flu? Is this all going to be bird flu? Is it bird flu? Is this all going to be bird flu? And they said no. Do you remember what they did say? No, I don't remember what they did say. What they did say is that the CDC was hyping dengue fever.

Starting point is 02:01:00 Oh, no, yes, right. And yes, dengue was mentioned. And that's when I came up with my aspirin anecdote. Yes, don't take aspirin if you have dengue fever. Well, your anecdote is more relevant than ever. And a new warning from the CDC. There's been a surge of dengue fever around the world and that's increasing the risk of it spreading here in the US. Global cases of the mosquito

Starting point is 02:01:23 borne disease hit record numbers this year. Countries in the US. Global cases of the mosquito-borne disease hit record numbers this year. Countries in the Americas are reporting twice as many cases than in all of 2023. And now health officials in Florida are urging the public. Well, hold on. Stop it. Stop. Twice as many? Twice as many. Did it go from one to two? Or did it go from four to eight? We don't know, but what- Did it go from 1,000 to 2,000?

Starting point is 02:01:45 I mean, twice as many is meaningless. It's surging, John. Didn't you hear the beginning? It's surging. It's surging. I just love that this obvious setup was known to us two weeks ago. Oh no, the CDC is going to come out with dengue fever. And thank you, CBS.

Starting point is 02:02:05 Countries in the Americas are reporting twice as many cases than in all of 2023. And now health officials in Florida are urging the public to take extra precautions like wearing bug spray and dumping out standing water. That's interesting. I'll come back to that in a moment after we talk to Dr. Celine Gowder. Joining me now is the editor-at-lar large for public health at KFF and CBS News medical contributor Dr. Celine Gowder. Always great seeing you, doctor.

Starting point is 02:02:33 So what do we know about how dengue fever is spreading and what are some of the potential risks associated with this virus? Dengue fever spreads by mosquito bites and part of what we're seeing now is with climate change with increasing areas that are hot, humid, which are friendly to mosquitoes where mosquitoes breed, we're seeing more transmission of dengue. And so we've seen a huge outbreak in Latin America over the last several months. There are parts of the United States that are also at risk, in particular the Gulf Coast, Florida, Texas, also parts of Southern California.

Starting point is 02:03:08 What protects us here in the United States against dengue is people generally live in better homes, better housing, where you have screened windows, you have air conditioning, and so you have less exposure to mosquitoes in your home. But this is not a benign illness. People can develop very high fevers, headaches, vomiting, shock where your blood pressure drops dramatically. And without treatment, about 15% of people who get dengue can die. So very interesting is blamed on, of course, climate change. We all knew that climate change will be responsible for the next pandemic.

Starting point is 02:03:45 Plan-demic. But I just want to take us because they mentioned Florida, the Gulf Coast, Florida, Florida, the Gulf Coast, Florida, southern part of Texas, Florida. My memory does go back at least two years, 2022. Since 2021, UK-based biotech company Oxitec has released millions of genetically modified male 80s, Egypti mosquitoes in the Florida Keys. Remember that? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:04:14 No one ever questions that. It's a Bill Gates project. It sure is. No one ever questions that nonsense they did. I thought that that was supposed to stop mosquitoes from spreading things like dengue fever. It's well- That was the idea, wasn't it? Yeah, that was supposed to stop mosquitoes from spreading things like dengue fever. That was the idea, wasn't it? Yeah, that was the idea.

Starting point is 02:04:29 How'd that work out, Bill Gates? It just subjected the entire Gulf Coast population to dengue fever. Don't take aspirin. How do you know when you have dengue and shouldn't take aspirin? You have to be tested. aspirin. How do you know when you have dengue and shouldn't take aspirin? You have to be tested. Oh, yeah. I love it. We got testing, testing. Another thing you should never do.

Starting point is 02:05:00 And I'd love to hear your input on this, John. You should never eat the plane on the food, the food on the plane. You shouldn't eat the plane ever. You should definitely not eat the plane. Delta 136, can you confirm that none of the pilots ate any of the food? It was not a great start to the holiday for passengers on Delta Flight 136 from Detroit to Amsterdam. They ended up in New York early this morning

Starting point is 02:05:18 after at least a dozen people got sick from eating chicken, apparently contaminated with mold. Eric, you can correct us as a medical personnel on our game. They should be standing by. Delta says it sincerely apologizes for that incident. Dude, that could have been me. Could have been me. I never eat chicken on the plane.

Starting point is 02:05:36 I don't like it. Yeah, 12 people got food poisoning and they had to go back. They had to say, oh, we better go back. People are puking all over the place. It's horrible. Well, that was pretty fast acting. Oh, interesting. You don't think it would happen that fast?

Starting point is 02:05:53 No, it doesn't. You don't, fast acting is not caused by, well, mold, I don't know. I just, it's very fast acting. Food poisoning usually takes a while. I mean, I got, the only time I really got sick in the last 20, 30 years was from a flight back from Mexico City. I was eating fine in Mexico and then on the flight back I had some, I think, spoiled fruit.

Starting point is 02:06:17 Oh no. It was a mistake. Yeah. I always said, I always send some travel advice. It could be a tip of the day. Oh, you don't save it. I know what it is, and it's a great tip of the day, and I think you should save it. This is a very...

Starting point is 02:06:31 I'll save it. Today's tip of the day will be at the end of the show, and it will be a travel tip. Travelers tip of the day, exactly. Now, there was no word whether this Delta flight was a Boeing or not. Doesn't matter, we got plenty of Boeing problems. Breaking news to tell you about

Starting point is 02:06:44 the Federal Aviation Administration investigating after United Airlines flight returned to O'Hare shortly after takeoff today. United flight 343 had been heading for San Francisco, but the Boeing 737 started experiencing issues with cabin pressure. Nobody got hurt. The plane landed safely back at O'Hare around noon. Of course, no actual news. Did the mask drop?

Starting point is 02:07:05 Was a depressurization event? You know, they don't want to tell us anything. But that doesn't really matter because the best Boeing news has got to be the astronauts in space. Have you been following? You're right. This is the... Yeah, and I'm actually remiss for not having a clip of it.

Starting point is 02:07:23 I have one. You know what's going to... Well, play the clip and then I predict what's going to happen. All right, good. So the Starliner, indeed, is a capsule that can dock with the International Space Station and set to become a sort of space taxi, if you will, to bring astronauts up there into the ISS. Now, back in 2014, NASA actually ordered two of those vehicles, both to Boeing and and SpaceX and the idea was to be able to really alternate flights between both companies now SpaceX as usual delivered very quickly with the Crew Dragon It's been operational for four years now But Boeing's program fell behind in a big way and finally on June 5th

Starting point is 02:07:59 Indeed the Starliner was able to take off from Florida The goal of this first mission was really to demonstrate that this vehicle created by Boeing was safe and was capable of bringing the astronauts up there. On board you have two astronauts, Butch Wilmore and Suri Williams. The test was indeed supposed to last about a week and it has been extended due to a slow helium leak in the spacecraft propulsion system. Now, NASA and Boeing actually knew about this leak before takeoff, but for some reason, I don't know how, but they initially believed it wouldn't affect the test mission and the astronaut safety. And we don't know actually when either of them are going to be able to come back here to planet Earth. That's right.

Starting point is 02:08:38 It sounds quite incredible. But since June 6th, they've already changed twice the date of their return to Earth. So at first, NASA said they could return by the end of, by mid July, but then later NASA's program boss, Steve Stitch, said that he was verifying that Starliner's batteries could have a little bit more autonomy and perhaps three months autonomy. And this is what prompted people to think that, you know, NASA wasn't ruling out the return by the end of August. And for now, NASA and Boeing says there is no, there's absolutely no issue here.

Starting point is 02:09:07 But during the press conference, many journalists, of course, were quite skeptical of this. And the reason why is because they say that, you know, the space division of Boeing is, it can't be completely isolated from the rest of its commercial activities and mainly linked to all of the problems it's had with its airliner, specifically very recently, the loss of a door in mid-flight. This is an epic, epic fail for Boeing. That's really bad. Your thoughts? They're going to have to apologize and get the Russians to take these guys home. Why not Musk? Why can't Musk? I think Musk, if Musk, well, for one thing,

Starting point is 02:09:46 Musk doesn't have just spare rockets sitting around that he can just launch up there. The Russians, I think they do. He might. But I think Musk shouldn't do it. I think he should make him have the Russians do it to show the idiotic dependency that we have on Russia for the space program.

Starting point is 02:10:04 Let me ask you this. So, you know, Boeing is in such deep water, or as my parents used to say, kimchi. Here's a quick clip just to bring us up to speed. The US Justice Department will this week criminally charge Boeing with fraud over two fatal crashes. Carmel Cremens has more. So US authorities are asking the plane maker to plead guilty or take the risk of going to trial and Boeing has until the end of this week to decide. This comes at a particularly bad time for Boeing, right?

Starting point is 02:10:38 Absolutely. The plane maker's already engulfed in crisis over its safety record and a guilty plea could affect its ability to enter into government contracts and business with the U.S. military makes up a significant chunk of its revenues. So, you know, I can't help but think, you know, initially we were like, hey, you know, these guys that haven't paid their representatives, they haven't put enough money in the kitty. Like how much money you make?

Starting point is 02:11:04 Man, you make $33 million? $33 million really? You've only donated enough money in the kitty. Like how much money you make, man? You make $33 million? $33 million really? You've only donated one million, the whole company, to our campaigns. What if they just take this one step further? Why wouldn't they take the highly compromised, likely one of the largest military contractors for the United States, Elon Musk, give the space stuff to him, which he already has half of the business, if not more. And why not let Elon buy Spirit Aero systems?

Starting point is 02:11:36 Have him build planes. Take it away from Boeing. They seem like they're just... Boeing can't win. Someone else should be building these planes. And isn't Spirit putting together the bodies and a lot of the important bits? Why don't you go one step further? Okay, buy Boeing.

Starting point is 02:11:53 Give Boeing to Elon Musk. But that's, it may be so corrupted, he could just buy the pieces out of it. What's the stock? Is it crap? No, the stock is held up actually. Interesting. I mean, it's not what it should be, but it's held up. It's not like collapsed. But it seems to me that someone else has, it's too sick and no one trusts it.

Starting point is 02:12:19 And all these bad stories, anything that happens in aviation now is one of two things, Boeing or DEI, both of which might not be true. But this might not even be true in every single case. But that's beside the point. I think we need something and Elon needs it. He needs it. Now, I think if I were him, I think differently than you. I'd be like, okay, first we're going to take away all the Boeing space business. I'm going to get my, what's that thing called? What's his ISS shuttle rocket? What's that thing called?

Starting point is 02:13:00 Whatever it is. I can't remember. He's also selling the mini Starlink now. Have you gotten, I've been getting ads from him for that. The mini Starlink is a Starlink internet satellite that you can put in a backpack, take anywhere. You have to buy it for like- Yeah, it's a pretty phenomenal technology. I know where he stumbled onto it.

Starting point is 02:13:19 600, well, it's all military. It's a military technology. Well, first of all, the government cannot have one vendor. No, they'll throw someone else in there for the- It's a single technology. Well, first of all, the government cannot have one vendor. No, they'll throw someone else in there for the mix. It's a single point of failure. So they have to have an alternative. And so Boeing is supposed to be the alternative. If not Boeing, who would it be?

Starting point is 02:13:35 Well, I'm just... Well, okay. How about Bezos? Where's Bezos in the mix? Someone's got to start building planes. There's no faith, no trust in what Boeing is doing anymore. China definitely has them. That's why I'm thinking Musk. Speaking of China, there's this, let me see if I can find it here.

Starting point is 02:14:11 Um, Team U is under attack. No, Team U and the other operation, they're all in, and so is the AliExpress. Yes. And then Europe, they're under attack in Europe because the Europeans are letting this stuff flow, anything under 150 bucks is flowing into Europe duty-free. And if Europeans are looking at this flood of crap that's coming in. And by the way, I recommended AliExpress is a cool thing, but do not buy any computer related products from them at all, ever. So there's these reports out there from outfits like grizzlyreports.com that say, and this

Starting point is 02:14:48 is basically the TikTok strategy. We believe PDD is a dying fraudulent company. It's shopping app, TMU is cleverly hidden spyware that poses an urgent security threat to US national interests. Anything that China does that beats us, hello Amazon, they just say, oh, national security risk. Security threat. Yeah, it's spying on you. All these apps are spying on you. You can't get it into the Apple App Store. Yeah, try to get more spying than Google does. Yeah, right. Or Microsoft for that

Starting point is 02:15:21 matter. And then, and I read this, I read the about statement from this grisly research. We use our research and on the ground, due diligence capacities consult on a range of M&A transactions and structured investments. Our ability to sniff out what others are trying to hide is valued by many who are risking their own capital. We serve institutional clients, including family offices, hedge

Starting point is 02:15:45 funds, investment banks, and operating companies. Please. That's not, you're not reporting. You're shorting. Ooh, there you go. Not reporting, you're shorting. But I think something has to happen. Something has to happen with Boeing.

Starting point is 02:16:01 And I think it's got to be, the trick is in the Spirit Airlines. Maybe Lockheed can end up owning them. Lockheed has experience in, if you remember the L-1011 and some of the other jets they used to have. They were pretty good products. So the L-1011 was a great three engine jet, was Dynamite. Was that Trident? I don't remember that one.

Starting point is 02:16:24 Yeah, it was a Trident right it was a 70s airplane don't think 80s listen what you talking about China I got an immigrant phone story that I want to get out of the way which I always thought was screwy never gotten to the mainstream media but this kind of kind of interesting from finding gaps in the US border wall to explaining how to apply for asylum inside the US, an online network helping Chinese immigrants cross into the US illegally, is coming to light. All of this discovered through a single smartphone left behind at the border.

Starting point is 02:16:56 NTD's Juliet Song has the details. A telegram group chat that contributes to the border crisis. It gives detailed instructions on how to cross the southern border and scripts for what to say when applying for asylum. Its owner claims to be a cyber police officer in China. Philip Lenzicki is an investigative reporter at the Daily Colour. He broke the story. And it also acts as a hub for documents detailing specific Chinese illegal immigration paths to the United States.

Starting point is 02:17:33 It also contains documents that show as many as 15 border wall crossing points into the US, 12 of which are in California. It started when he got a tip from a San Diego resident. Who lives about 50 miles to the east of San Diego near Hacamba Hot Springs. And he found a Chinese illegal immigrants cell phone that had been discarded on the US side of the border. Can you imagine you're a Chinese immigrant, you get the cell phone, which by the way is a Soros trick who used it for years, getting people out of Turkey into Europe with everything

Starting point is 02:18:18 you needed, with the maps, the whole thing, everything was in it. So it's not like some major league new thing. You're a Chinese immigrant. You come in, you're like, you're in California. You're like, oh man, I almost had it. Hello Lin, hello Lin. This is your, this is your, is your, your, your cousin Yin. They're peeing on each other here, man. Get me out of here.

Starting point is 02:18:41 This was a mistake. Oh goodness. What's in part two here? The owner of the phone had been getting information from a telegram group chat called the American Self-Guided Tour. Furthermore, the documents contain information that we can think of as scripts or templates for Chinese illegal immigrants to use in order to answer questions from border patrol agents and obtain asylum. The discovery comes as illegal Chinese migrants continue to flood the southern border. Eight months into fiscal year 2024, over 80,000 had crossed into the southern

Starting point is 02:19:26 border, exceeding the total from last year. That's according to CBP data. A large number of them are military-age adult men, raising concerns among some U.S. officials that they could engage in espionage activities for Beijing. Back to the Telegram chat, its owner Jack W claims to be a cyber police officer in China. NTD can't independently confirm Jack W's identity. It's unclear if he's backed by the Chinese state, though he does appear to toe the Communist Party line. He bans and censors accounts that express opinions contrary to the Chinese Communist Party.

Starting point is 02:20:06 After the Daily Caller article came out, someone posted it in the group chat. The owner then penned a message, banning future political discussions. Well, I'm a little disappointed in this, of course, Daily Caller, they're just reporting on a report. But this is obviously, this is particularly when you bring in the military-aged men This is a setup for Trump with his big beautiful ships and submarines and bases as we As we mount a phony baloney Non-violent war non-kinetic war against China, which of course will will be Tariffs and you know the stuff that he loves doing

Starting point is 02:20:45 will be tariffs and the stuff that he loves doing. But this is just set up. This is just set up. We need evil China. Believe me, these Chinese are smart. They're not coming. They're like, what am I doing here? In California? I mean, they think they've come to America.

Starting point is 02:20:59 No, no, no, no, no. Well, maybe they can leave California and go to Austin. Well, is there a difference? It's the same people. I want to stay in- Well, that's because Californians went to Austin. Correct. I'd like to stay in the region.

Starting point is 02:21:14 Ewan Horowitz, DH Unplugged on Wednesday nights, Tuesday nights. I'm sorry, Tuesday nights. Yeah, Tuesday nights. I always listen to it on Wednesday. That's why, Tuesday nights. I'm sorry, Tuesday nights? Yeah, Tuesday nights. I always listen to it on Wednesday, that's why. Tuesday nights. I try to listen almost every single week. It's fun. It's a good show. It's good. If you want to keep up on your finances without really having to know much, it's good. It's perfect for you.

Starting point is 02:21:40 Yes, it is. It's perfect for people like me, dhonplug.com. So you guys have been tracking the yen and this, you know, they, they banged it down to 150 and now it's, well, we can't have a go over 160 and I just looked, it's now 161.50. Oh God. So, so now- That means Toyotas are cheap. So, but this next report maybe think is this something I mean Do they need to print money? Do they need to print money to get themselves out of this?

Starting point is 02:22:12 I mean, what is the what is the actual problem they have? We'll play the report and then maybe I can think of something well the report is kind of the payoff depending on your answer I can think of something. Well, the report is kind of the payoff depending on your answer. I don't think printing money would help. That would make it worse. Well, they're making it worse. Japanese central bank officials breaking out the top hat and tails for a special occasion, the country's first new cash design in 20 years.

Starting point is 02:22:39 The government has begun sending new ten thousand, five thousand and one thousand yen bills into circulation with 7.5 billion new notes due out by next March. Featuring historical champions of Japanese capitalism, female empowerment, and scientific achievement, the bills have some state-of-the-art science of their own. 3D holographic portraits that turn their heads depending on the viewer's angle. They packed a lot of technology into this note to fight counterfeiting. It's quite amazing. The rollout, though, comes with complications.

Starting point is 02:23:15 Japan's retail economy is not only more cash-based than some of its developed peers, it's also highly automated. While 90% of ATMs, train ticket booths, and retail registers can accept the new bills, only about 20% of the country's ubiquitous vending machines can. Roughly half the country's restaurants will need to upgrade their automatic tills, an extra headache for owners already struggling with inflation. My bills are already going up every month.

Starting point is 02:23:44 Upgrading the payment machine has no real impact on sales, so it's only negative for us. It's a very difficult situation. As fancy as the new notes are, the government would like for them to take a smaller role in the country's economy, aiming for 80 percent cashless payments to boost productivity. While digital payments have nearly tripled in Japan over the past decade, they still make up less than 40% of consumer spending.

Starting point is 02:24:11 So I don't know what the strategy is, but they literally printed money. Yeah. What is that about? Well, everybody has to get, it was obviously, it was a reaction to counterfeiting. And I guess the money's plastic, I don't know nobody said in that report whether it was plastic It looks plastic. It looks plastic. I'm sure it's plastic. Yeah, and

Starting point is 02:24:33 Yeah some new plastic money Well, that's inflationary. Which they did everywhere in the world, but us is using plastic now including Canada. But that's inflationary by is using plastic now, including Canada. But that's inflationary by definition, right? They print more money. Well, they're supposed to bring money off out of circulation and substitute with the new money. That wasn't in the report.

Starting point is 02:24:54 There's a continual process in all countries of grabbing money from the banks and swapping it out for new money, and it's not necessarily inflationary. If the bank gives you 100 and you give them 100 back, it doesn't seem not necessarily inflationary. If they, if you, if the bank gives you a hundred and you give them a hundred back, it doesn't seem to be inflationary that way. Yeah, but that wasn't in the report. So I don't know. I don't know. But that's the way it usually works.

Starting point is 02:25:14 Meanwhile, Bolivia is in a glut. I think what's missing from your analysis is the fact that they're promoting this cashless stuff when it's on the Japanese, like most Asians don't like the idea. Well, no, that was in, that was in the report. I, it was in the report. I don't know how to analyze it. That's why I asked you when I set you up as one of the experts. I just don't think that people, I don't think cashless is a great idea. I think it's a bad idea. It's good for certain things.

Starting point is 02:25:42 So Bolivia has a problem. They have a lot of climate change, or unfriendly stuff for climate change. They have gas and I guess people can't give it away. I don't know much about Bolivia, but because no one's buying their gas, they have a lack of dollars. they have no one's buying their gas, they have a lack of dollars, and now the Bolivian government has taken an extraordinary step as reported by France 24. In the grip of economic crisis, fuel lines and spiraling prices the new normal Bolivia is facing a severe shortage of the US dollars needed to import petrol and diesel. Foreign currency reserves have fallen from $15 billion a decade ago to less than $2 billion in May.

Starting point is 02:26:33 They haven't disappeared entirely, but there are not many dollars. There is some activity, obviously, but not like before. When it came, we bought, we sold, but not anymore. When it came, we bought, we sold, but not anymore. Desperate for solutions, the government of President Luis Arce is looking to cryptocurrency to ease the pressure, lifting a decade-old ban on transactions in digital money like Bitcoin. This is actually a global issue. Everyone is using that kind of payment. Why? Because it's an international strategy to move away from using the dollar.

Starting point is 02:27:08 The central bank says the move is aimed at modernizing Bolivia's payment system and putting its policies more in line with the rest of Latin America. The region has seen a wider official acceptance of crypto in recent years, with its popularity growing in countries like Mexico and Brazil. El Salvador has even made Bitcoin legal tender, requiring companies to accept it for payments. Bolivia, meanwhile, is one of Latin America's poorest countries, despite sitting on large reserves of natural gas and lithium. Gas exports abroad, though, have cratered,

Starting point is 02:27:44 in part due to a lack of investment in new exploration, of natural gas and lithium. Gas exports abroad though have cratered, in part due to a lack of investment in new exploration, meaning fewer and fewer crucial US dollars coming in. I just thought that was interesting. Well that brings me to a clip. Alright. And it all has to do with like what's happening here, who's running the show that's allowing this to happen,

Starting point is 02:28:03 this is all bad for us. Yes. US. Yes. This is the WTF clip at the bottom, it's the Shanghai Club. I don't know anything, never heard of this, I don't know what's going on with it, why it's even in business, what it's doing, it's not BRICS, it's another group altogether but it seems like a lot of BRICS people are in it. Is this the SCO?

Starting point is 02:28:22 And it's all designed to screw us over. Is this the SCO? And it's all designed to screw us over. Is this the SCO? A what? The SCO? SCO? Yeah, what is it? Shanghai, the Shanghai Corporation? Yeah, Shanghai Club or something.

Starting point is 02:28:31 Yeah, Shanghai Corporation Organization. Yeah, this is the big, I've heard about this. I'll play the clip. Russian President Vladimir Putin met with Chinese leader Xi Jinping today at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization Summit in Kazakhstan. This is the big, I've heard about this. I'll play the clip. Russian president Vladimir Putin met with Chinese leader Xi Jinping today at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit in Kazakhstan. During the meeting, Putin said that ties between Moscow and Beijing are experiencing the best period

Starting point is 02:28:55 in their history. The club was founded by Russia, China, and Central Asian powers in 2001. One of its goals is to counter the influence of the United States and its allies. The organization has since expanded to include India, Iran and Pakistan. Leaders from various nations are set to attend this week's meeting. UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres will also be present. The gathering is scheduled to end tomorrow.

Starting point is 02:29:21 All I know about this is I hear the same thing. We don't want the BRICS and the Shanghai cooperation organization to join together because then the dollar is screwed is what I'm hearing. The fact that this has India and Pakistan sworn enemies along with Russia and China and then a bunch of Indochinese operations all gathering in Kazakhstan or one of these Kazakhstan Kazakhstan Kazakhstan to to plot it. And it says it right in the report to plot plot against the American dollar. And then when you play that Bolivian clip, this is not good.

Starting point is 02:30:09 The Shanghai Cooperation. This is completely going off the rails thanks to our President Biden. The Shanghai Cooperation Organization, SCO, is a Eurasian political, economic, international security and defense organization established by China and Russia in 2001. It's the world's largest regional organization in terms of geographic scope and population covering approximately 80% of the area of Eurasia, 40% of the world population. As of 2021, its combined GDP was around 20% of global GDP. This is the successor to the

Starting point is 02:30:41 Shanghai Five from 1996. Yeah, this is definitely not good. This is the successor to the Shanghai Five from 1996. Yeah, this is definitely not good. This is why I say people will be begging Trump, please come in, fix it. This is, this is a, I agree with you. This is a real problem. Not that we know. Not doing anything about it from what I can tell. And that's what's going to make the Stepanopolous interview interesting. We want to take bets right now.

Starting point is 02:31:08 Is he going to tank it? Is he going to tank Joe or is he going to save? They better. Stepanopolous is in the Council on Foreign Relations, as I mentioned at the beginning of the show, he'll be out and this is the Council on Foreign Relations, which is a bunch of globalists. Uh, and none of us, none of them in favor of sovereignty of our country, but that's okay, you can have your own opinion.

Starting point is 02:31:31 And they've all been against Biden since that debate and Stephanopoulos is not gonna step out of line, is he? And then make Biden look good? No. Even though Biden will have the questions and everything? No. You know that, that the questions and everything? No. You know that, that's going to be true. In fact, there may be a teleprompter behind Stepanophilus' head

Starting point is 02:31:50 that Biden's reading from, for all we know. This will be even better than the debate. It could be. You got a Chevron deference clip, I see. I do? Well, it says after effect. Oh, yes. Yes, this is the ad.

Starting point is 02:32:08 Right. Chevron and Texas. Is this something? Yes, Chevron. Chevron. After, yeah, this is the ad. By the way, this is what I think we're going to start seeing more and more of. This is the bull crap after effect because Chevron deference, as we talked about to death,

Starting point is 02:32:23 you know, is a major change in the way that the government's gonna operate. It's not gonna be as abusive as what it really amounts to as it used to be, to require like that poor fishing boat guy to spend, I don't know, 170 to 700 bucks for some respect. Per vessel, per vessel, per day. Per day, which you can't afford if you're a fisherman. This is an after effect, and we're going to get, and this is in Texas, this is going to be,

Starting point is 02:32:50 we're going to hear more and more stories like this, which are phonied up stories. Federal judge in Texas has delayed a ban on non-compete agreements for workers. Companies often ask workers to sign such agreements to promise they won't join the employer's rivals or launch competing businesses. The ban was approved by the Federal Trade Commission in April and said to take effect in early September but now it's been delayed by a federal judge who says the FTC lacked the authority to adopt such broad rules. The judge says that the delay is temporary and the court will rule on the merits of the ban before the end of August.

Starting point is 02:33:25 Yes, things are changing. New sheriff in town and I have some Chevron deference clips coming from CNBC, which means they kind of have to be honest. But what was most interesting about this is the person who was being interviewed about it is Dr. Scott Gottlieb. Of course he used to run the FDA so there's... He's on the Pfizer board. He's on the Pfizer board so there's some interesting little deets in this. Welcome back everybody. The Supreme Court has overturned a 1980s precedent

Starting point is 02:34:00 known as the Chevron Doctrine that decision could actually undercut federal agencies including the FDA. Joining us right now for more on this is former FDA commissioner and CNBC contributor Dr. Scott Gottlieb. And Dr. Gottlieb, thank you for being here. I wanted to talk to you about this, not just in your role as the former FDA commissioner, but also as someone who used to work at the American Enterprise Institute, which takes the view that big government's not always a great thing. And I just wonder

Starting point is 02:34:28 how you are looking at this decision that was originally brought by by fishermen in the Atlantic who were unhappy with having to pay for monitors who were watching over what they were hauling in. Why don't you talk through how you see all of this and what it means? Right. And I'm still at the American Enterprise Institute. I love this. This guy's on both sides of it. This American Enterprise Institute who are against big government has this guy there who basically became a multimillionaire because of big government. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:34:59 That's, that's. The guy knows how to work it. He does. He does. Right. And I'm still at the American Enterprise american prize institute look i think a lot of concern is viewed this is a way to constrain on the administrative strict state that regulatory agencies had expanded the scope of their authority into new areas that congress hadn't clearly delineated now agencies are going to be able to do that when you were a regulator so when i was

Starting point is 02:35:23 at f da if we issued rulemaking and we were interpreting the statute in areas of ambiguity to try to apply our regulatory oversight to new areas of supervision, new product areas, we generally, as long as we went through rulemaking, we generally felt that the courts would defer to us under Chevron doctrine. And that was a reason to go through the rulemaking process so that deference would attach. Now that presumption no longer exists. And so you're going to have to go back to Congress in many cases, get explicit authority if you want to extend the agency's jurisdiction into a new product area.

Starting point is 02:35:55 Now with respect to FDA specifically, I would expect that the courts will still defer to FDA on fact-based decision-making with respect to the drug approval process or medical product review uh... courts and congress has also has given the agency broad grants of authority in those areas to make fact-based science-based decisions when i'm hearing here is that the f d a is really this is going to be a problem because the f d a by themselves could allow rules

Starting point is 02:36:26 for new categories of drugs and of course the drug industry is second only to the military industry and Gottlieb is no doubt one of the premier sales guys of this whole cabal. So instead of talking about Pfizer or Moderna or Eli Lilly or any other big pharma company, he gives his examples in a case that I understand, which is the vape business, particularly Juul. And my overall assessment is they completely screwed all the little guys who built the industry and just by saying, oh, you want to approve some vape juice? That's going to be a million dollars per flavor, per nicotine level.

Starting point is 02:37:11 So put them all out of business. Once they were gone, oh, Jule can just, oh, no, no, no, you can come back now. It's okay. You can do your flavors again because you are the big guys and we'll just take your big money and we'll all have jobs later on. So he uses this as an example and it's not looking pretty for the pharma industry. Could you have gone after Juul the way you did in their marketing towards kids under this new ruling? It's quite possible. Right, so one of the rules that could very likely be challenged is the agency's efforts to try

Starting point is 02:37:45 to regulate flavored vapes, for example. A lot of what we did when we went after Juul was taking enforcement actions under the existing statute and regulations, which I think was pretty ironclad. I think we were on firm ground. And we were challenged in courts and we prevailed not under Chevron deference. But I think that there have been some rules that what so in other words what he's saying if you read between the lines is that Chevron difference made no difference in the whole thing but somehow it's bad

Starting point is 02:38:16 yeah that what he's gonna do I think so not under Chevron deference but I think that there is have been some rules that have been promulgated in the intervening years, particularly around flavored tobacco products where the agency could face a challenge. That would be one of the more immediate places I think you'll see some litigation now as a result of this decision. You know, you led at the top with the politics of this. It's interesting to just go back to 1984 when this doctrine was first established. It was actually conservatives that were fighting for it

Starting point is 02:38:47 because they felt that the courts were second guessing regulatory agencies, remember those regulatory agencies were under the control of a Republican president at the time and they felt that the regulatory agencies should have more jurisdiction and not the courts. And so now you see the politics of this reversed. I love him, like, ah, it's really, it's the Republicans' fault, really, just so you know. You know, that is disingenuous and borderlines on a,

Starting point is 02:39:10 you know, lying bio mission. From Dr. Scott Gottlieb? So let's just remind everybody. Yes, please. In 1984, the Reagan administration decided that the EPA was being too harsh with its rulings and its determinations and it told them to back off, deregulate. It was the deregulation era. And so the EPA said, oh, she okay, well, we'll back off. We'll do what you tell us to do. And as they backed off, they got sued for backing off. They got sued for deregulating by one of these pressure groups, one of these many environmentalist groups. No, no, you can't go easy. And that's when Chevron Deference came in. Well, the EPA should be able to do what it wants to do and government agencies should be able to determine the ambiguities. And, you know, we don't need these court cases. It was done for that reason

Starting point is 02:40:07 He leaves that out of his well, the conservatives were all for this Let's wrap it up with this final clip. I was just reading I didn't even realize Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch was in the majority deciding this It was his mother who was the former EP administrator and Gorsuch who actually made the decision Oh Bullshit thing his mother who was the former EP administrator and Gorsuch who actually made the decision that the Supreme Court upheld back in the bullshit thing. Neil Gorsuch, his mom was off the off out of there two years before. I think it's two years before she was not involved. They like to throw that in.

Starting point is 02:40:40 There is another moment of irony, but she was at the time of thevron deference in nineteen eighty four she was not involved at that time she wasn't working there we continue and course that you actually made the decision that the supreme court upheld back in nineteen eighty four which is a describing your point exactly uh... how it has changed flavors with them i guess my question is i've had other people who are former fd, look, this could be very bad because it could mean that Congress basically has to sign off on every decision that they're making, could really slow things down, especially

Starting point is 02:41:13 when you consider that Congress can't even do its own job on time, which is coming up with a budget. Are you concerned on that level? And you mentioned yourself that the Congress may have to rewrite some of these rules. Do you see that happening? How long would that take and you mentioned yourself that the that congress may have to rewrite some of these rules do you see that happening how long would that take and how difficult of a job would that be to get through congress there with respect to fd i think that there is a general view in washington that they go through very careful rulemaking it's the agency issues a lot of regulations and if you look a lot of a statute congress gives the agency broad grants of discretion

Starting point is 02:41:44 uh... by directing it to develop guidance in specific areas. So in areas where the Congress has explicitly said we want you to develop a guidance to delineate what your regulatory oversight is going to be in this general area, I think if you read the recent Supreme Court decision those would be perceived as general grants of authority back to the agency. And so I think you're going to see more of that in statute. I wouldn't be worried about the agency's decision making around scientific matters, product review decisions.

Starting point is 02:42:13 I think it's going to be in areas where the agency has stepped in to regulate new areas of technology where Congress didn't explicitly direct the agency to do that. And so those aren't very common. They do exist. Laboratory-developed tests, as I mentioned, is one of the things that I would expect to be challenged quite immediately under this Supreme Court decision. But as far as the day-in, day-out of the agency's scientific decision-making, I wouldn't expect those to be subject to challenges.

Starting point is 02:42:40 Another broad area where I think you're going to see more challenges is around the grants of exclusivity. The FDA makes a lot of determinations about what exclusivity periods different products are entitled to. Those are already the subject of a lot of litigation. I think under this new recent Supreme Court ruling, you're going to see more challenges there. I think that's the big one.

Starting point is 02:42:59 I didn't realize that that also was part of what FDA did. I said, oh, well, you know, you guys can have this for 10 years. Yeah. We determined that through our scientific process. Well, that has to do with the, with the patents are limited in length and a moneymaking patent like VIGRAF for example, however pronounce it. And some of these other, you know, real moneymakers, the cash cows of the farm, of big pharma, they, there's patents that run out long ago, but they somehow just stay there.

Starting point is 02:43:29 There's some generic companies are allowed to make a copy and they sell it for the same price. I mean, it's, the whole thing is rigged. The idea was that after the patent expires, you should be able to buy these drugs generically for a tenth of the price. And that was true for a while until the generic drug companies were bought up by Big Pharma and then they jacked up the price on the generics and then they didn't allow other people in the market. And I think the FDA has something to do with that.

Starting point is 02:43:56 No, no, you guys can't make these. It's all got to be made by these guys or somebody in China, which is what's going on now with a lot of drugs. This is bad. Yeah. I have one last clip. It's a TikTok clip. or somebody in China, which is what's going on now with a lot of drugs. This is bad. I have one last clip. It's a TikTok clip. It's a big, big clip. Yeah, I know it's a TikTok clip.

Starting point is 02:44:12 Talk, talk, TikTok. I know it's a TikTok club, a club clip that has been going around. It's now on YouTube on the shorts. There's many of them. It's been, it's been going on for a number of months, but it's really coming to a head. And it's quite concerning since we have also received one of these products from Costco no less.

Starting point is 02:44:36 We need to discuss. Something bad is happening to the fruit in America. Hundreds of people on TikTok are reporting that anytime they buy produce from the grocery store, it's super rubbery and almost feels fake. They are selling fake avocados in Texas. It happened to this woman when she bought watermelon for her kids as it was super stretchy and inedible. I cut watermelons for my kids and they're all bringing it right back saying they don't like the texture. I can't believe I got one. I got a rubbery watermelon.

Starting point is 02:45:02 And again when this person bought avocados in Texas that felt like Play-Doh, it's even been happening to bananas. And this popular TikToker swears that there was a fake blueberry made out of silicone in the pack of real blueberries that she allegedly bought from Costco. Why is there a rubber blueberry in my toddler's snack?

Starting point is 02:45:22 And as a result, everyone in the comments is freaking out saying that the fruits are being pumped with growth hormones and others are saying that they will only be shopping at farmers markets from now on. As most of the time, the labels aren't accurate and anytime you go to a different country in Europe or South America, their produce tastes much more flavorful.

Starting point is 02:45:41 So this is a very weird one. And I've been hearing about this, mainly about avocados, but you see watermelon, I mean you can bend it, you can't even break it when you bend it. Yes, I researched this. Oh, thank you. This is why there's two of us. And it's quite easy to make a watermelon that way. Over, you refrigerate it for a long time, and you let it kind of, it kind of desiccates in the refrigerator, refrigerators dry things out. And I did it.

Starting point is 02:46:13 I had about a watermelon that about two or three weeks ago, I had one dropped off actually, I had half of it, it was just a normal watermelon. I took a chunk of it and left it in the refrigerator long enough, and it turned into exactly that same rubbery watermelon that woman has on the TikTok, which is disingenuous bull crap. And the, and the rubber blueberry, she said, if you listen to her carefully, she says she was grinding something away for some reason.

Starting point is 02:46:40 I don't know if she's grinding blueberry. No, no, no, no. It was in the garbage disposal. That's what I was saying. She's grinding something in the garbage disposal. That's why I was saying, she's grinding something in the garbage disposal and the blueberry wouldn't grind up and she got it out of there and found it was a, if it was, I don't care what it was, if you have a decent garbage disposal, it's going to beat the crap out of it and it's going to go down the drain. That's a fake. The rubbery watermelon's a fake. I haven't dealt with, I don't know what the avocado thing's about.

Starting point is 02:47:07 This is bull crap. This whole report is bull crap. It's a TikTok video, John. It's not a report. We threw avocados out that we got from Costco. They were literally like rubber. I'm not kidding you. And Tina was aghast. she's like, what is this? This is not a choice. There are bad avocados that hit the market They usually not ripe Okay, I

Starting point is 02:47:36 Mean it's not unusual to find an avocado that's kind of rubbery because it's not it's like it looks fine inside But it it's got the right color and everything, but it's not ripe It's not you know, it, it looks fine inside, but it, it's got the right color and everything, but it's not ripe. It's not, you know, it doesn't have any soft, softened characteristic. You should just let, let them ripen a little longer. They wouldn't, they wouldn't ripen. Well, that's odd in itself, but. Well, there's the one other thing is this APEEL. Have you heard of the APEEL?

Starting point is 02:47:59 This is some kind of substance that. Oh yes. I had heard of this that everyone's up against. What are they putting it on? I forgot. Avocados. Avocados. Oh, well, I've never seen an avocado with it on there.

Starting point is 02:48:15 So maybe there's something to that. But I find that this whole thing seems to be very dubious. I'm not sure what the point of it is. Well... To get people to go to farmers markets, I think, which is a good idea. I don't have a problem with that. Well, you heard it here. But no, this is John C. Dvorak says your watermelon is safe to eat.

Starting point is 02:48:36 Your blueberries are safe to eat. And don't worry, the chicken on United is safe to eat. I didn't say that. You put words in my mouth. Of course, that will bring us to the tip of the day later. All right, we'll get to that in a moment. We got tip of the day coming up. We got some, we got a night, we got a day and we got a title upgrade. On no agenda in the morning. We got tip of the day coming up.

Starting point is 02:49:06 We got some, we got a night, we got a day, and we got a title upgrade. We have some cool meetup reports. And of course, the birthdays, John first will take us through to the 50s of our producers who donated some treasure in our value for value model. Yes, I do have a note I'm gonna have to read

Starting point is 02:49:23 because it was a donate. It's a Dame Hood note. Oh, good. Eddie J starts us off though from Murdo Beach, South Carolina 16790. Terry Wentz in Langley, Washington 125. Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada 12345. Judy Schwartz in Bernie, Bernie, Texas. Oh, they have a, uh, welcoming a new human resource.

Starting point is 02:49:51 Taylor and Logan just had a baby girl. Darby Rose. Welcome to Gitmo Nation. Hello Darby, 10535. Hello Darby. Uh, Baron Lattican in Houston, Texas. Must be wet down there at a hundred dollars. John Roe, but you have, are you getting any effects in your neck of the woods from the big hurricane?

Starting point is 02:50:12 Nothing yet, but I do have friends in Jamaica who are pretty worried right now. John Robinet, $100. Joan Pulse, I think. Pulse, Pulse, Pulse in the pulse. She sent a note. She's a Dame, going to be a Dame now. And so she sent in a hundred dollars and says, I'm faithfully listened to every no agenda since mid 2020 when my good friend, uh, my, my, my IA, my, uh, hit me in the mouth.

Starting point is 02:50:39 Your media deconstruction and would have meant a lot for my sanity. Thank you. And thanks to all the talented producers who make the podcast so powerful. It's truly the best podcast in the universe. I also listen to DH unplugged. And MoFax. With a mix of executive producer donations and monthly donations accounting below I finally reached Dame layaway plan and now achieve status as Dame in waiting. If available, please grant me the title Dame Joan of Bark. I think that's available.

Starting point is 02:51:10 It's a good one. Yeah, nobody else has used it. At the round table, I would like you to get your pen out. Piping hot dish of veal piccata with extra capers. I forgot, I haven't cooked that for a while myself. I should do that. That's myself. I shouldn't do that. That's good. And a perfect wine pairing.

Starting point is 02:51:27 John, would you mind recommending a wine that is quite expensive? All right. Hey, easy does it. We're paying for the round table stuff. Yeah, this is a white wine you need. So let's have some, let's have some French, any vintage of, of,

Starting point is 02:51:48 la Montrachet from any, anybody making it. Let's do, let's do a 2016. I think 2015 might even be better. Do we have a 2015? Yes, we have a 2015. Entering Damehood is quite a celebration. Montrachet, that's your wine of the day. That's probably a, I'm guessing, today's market, 3000 bucks. Hopefully this note arrives-

Starting point is 02:52:16 Take that back to the seller. Hopefully this note arrives in time for my birthday on June 30th. I don't think, oh, I forgot to put her on the birthday list. Oh, okay. Joan of Bark, hold on a second. Joan of Bark. Joan of Bark and... She would like... When is she celebrating?

Starting point is 02:52:34 The 30th. Okay. June. Oh, belated, okay. She's never been de-douche-ed. Oh! De-douche-ed. You've been de-douche. You've been D-douche. And she wants a biscuit for her birthday. Oh man. Sorry about that. No it's okay. It's just it's a very expensive

Starting point is 02:52:55 daming with that wine. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. There's your biscuit on your birthday. We could back it off but I think that's that's your future president. Your future president everybody. Well, let's move it to a 2005. There you go. That's cheaper? You know, it's probably around the same price. Do we have it? It'll be a stunner. Okay, 2005, Le Mantre Chez. Le Mantre Chez, lovely. As old as it is, it's probably killer. It needs to be removed from the seller, it's getting too old. Yeah, okay.

Starting point is 02:53:29 We're taking it out. All right, onward with Kelly Spongberg of the Spongberg clan in Rocky Mountain, Alberta. 100. Julie Williams in Huntington Beach. 100. Joe Dirks in Amsterdam. 9626. It's a Wobbo donation.

Starting point is 02:53:50 For July 6th, the Wobbo meetup. It's coming up. Sir Brian Tobiasen in Gardner, Kansas. 8808. The special boob. Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina. 8008. There he is. He's not missing a day. He's the Archduke of Luna, by the way. Edward Owens in Alameda, California. 8008.

Starting point is 02:54:14 And I believe he has achieved knighthood status. He says, John Adam, after over a year of boob donations, I have finally achieved knighthood status. I want to be known as Sir Fast Eddie of Alameda, the Island of Boobs. I'd like tacos at the round table and to hear my knight name followed by the F35 guy. Thank you for what you do. I look forward to each and every show. Your pal, Edward Owens, is soon to be Sir Fast Eddie of Alameda, the Island of Boobs. We'll see on the podium.

Starting point is 02:54:42 Sir Dan the Quiet Man in Alpharetta eight oh eight the boobs today Mars cella barden in Monday, Texas 78 65s got a that's a birthday coming up Aaron Daniels in Norman, Oklahoma 77 Deduction necessary You've been deduced. Uh, Lydia Terry Dominelli in Rochester, New Hampshire, 76 JD and Elkhorn

Starting point is 02:55:15 Nebraska, 7424 and, and run the Pierre Rick zoo in Trumbull, Connecticut, 7424. That's our July 4th donations, I guess. Yeah, I guess so. Dusty Clendon in Arlington, Texas, 7176. John Hoiber, Boer. Hoiber. Hoiber. Hay Farmer.

Starting point is 02:55:42 Mr. Hay Farmer in Bristol, Tennessee 7004. Sir Becoming Heroic in Sherraraerville, Indiana 6886. That's jiggly boobs according to him. I don't quite get that but okay I'll think about it. Mike in Michigan 6393. He needs a deducing. You've been deduced. Jen of the Woodland store in Hebron, Kentucky. 5808. Another birthday. Bork the dog in Stanhope, New Jersey 5798. Scott Mengel in Exton, Pennsylvania 5555. We beat Medicare, he says. Brian Furley 5510. Sir Slipping Time in Cherry Valley,

Starting point is 02:56:40 California 5510. He just got his first hour in an R-22. We said it was great. Yes, we called it the bone shaker. How'd you go about earning your helicopter license, Adam? Well, I was rich at the time. Sir Dancing Mike in Maryville, Tennessee, 5454. Another birthday call out to his smoking hot wife. Damn Denise. damn Denise. Miles in Charlottesville, Virginia, 5420.

Starting point is 02:57:11 Heather Harper in Lubbock, Texas, 5333. John Bassano in Madison, Alabama, 5272. These are all actually $50 donors. Samantha Lumadou in Pittsburgh, $52.72 in Diane, Riello in Franklin, Tennessee, $52.72. The rest are $50 donors. I'll just do the name and location. Starting with Jordan Huenoh in Salem, Tony Lang in Castle Pines, Colorado, Jordan Tierney in Oro, South Dakota, Foster Birch in New York City, Matt Frazee in St. John's, Florida, Daniel Laboy in Bath, Michigan, Jacob Martinez in El Monte, California, James Sharametta, Sir James in Napanuck, New York. Kurt Patrick in Nanaimo. I like Nanaimo, but I say Nanaimo and I'm corrected one way or the other. It doesn't matter. I can't pronounce it. Chris

Starting point is 02:58:13 Conacher in Anchorage. Michael Felix in Modesto. And last on our list in Roseburg, Oregon is Leslie Walker and I think she might need a deducing You've been deduced She got it and thank you to all these donors we want to thank everyone who came in under $50 as well We do not mention anyone under that level for reasons of anonymity. We see you $49.99, appreciate it very much. And of course anyone who comes in with the lower amounts, it is all highly appreciated. It's how the value for value model works. The sustaining donations are critically important. You can make one up yourself as you can see from this list. We have people who eventually become Knights and Dames through doing that and it's really worth it. That's when you you get the beautiful signet ring and you get the status at the meetups

Starting point is 02:59:08 And we just appreciate anyone and everyone supporting the best podcast in the new universe your no agenda show for all of you Here is a goat karma. You've got Karma no agenda donations calm become a producer today NoagendaDonations.com become a producer today. It's your birthday, birthday. Oh, Noah, check it out. And we congratulate belatedly, Joan of Bark, who celebrate her birthday on the 30th. Marcella Barton turns 60 today. Happy birthday.

Starting point is 02:59:37 Nice day to celebrate with rockets. Jenna Woodlandshire turns 50 today. Erica Koenig wishes her human resource Hogan a very happy one. He is turning eight. He's either today or tomorrow depending on where you are because they're in China. And Sir Dancing Mike wishes his smoking hot wife Dame Denise of Maryville a very happy one. She turns 50 for tomorrow. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Title changes. Turn and face the slaves. Title changes.

Starting point is 03:00:10 Don't wanna be a douchebag. And there she is, Dame Kelly of the longest island becomes a baronetist today. Thanks to our upgrade of another aggregate of $1,000. We congratulate you, Dame Kelly, and thank you very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe today It's been a couple of weeks of a couple of shows actually since we've had a Dame or a night and we have one of each

Starting point is 03:00:32 So I'm going to draw the big fourth of July July July this July the fourth of July Blade and do you have one? Independence day blade it is Here you go, I got one. Independence Day Blade it is. Joan Paulson, Edward Owen, step right up. Both of you are becoming members of the roundtable, the Noah Jen, the Knights and Dames, thanks to your contribution to the best podcast in the universe. And I am very proud to pronounce the KV as Dame Joan of Barth and Sir Fast Eddie of Alameda

Starting point is 03:01:02 and the Island of Boobs. I did not forget you, brother. and Sir Fast Eddie of Alameda and the Island of Boobs. No! What in the world is this? I did not forget you, brother. Head on over to noagendarings.com after you enjoy what we have at the round table by request piping hot dish or veal piccata with extra capers and 2005 Le Montrecha and some tacos. Along with that we have the the fare of mutton and meat at

Starting point is 03:01:26 noagenderrings.com. Right there you'll be able to find all the information that you need to send off to us including your ring size. You get that beautiful signet ring which you can use to seal your important correspondence with with the sealing wax which I was just reading by the way sealing wax, which I was just reading by the way, that the United States Postal Service may send you a warning if you send wax sealed envelopes through the mail. I get quite a few of those. I never get a warning. Same here. I've never gotten a warning about them at all, but they're saying, oh no, because people do that for, you know, for wedding invitations and for all kinds of ceremonies. And apparently the United States Postal Service gets stuck in the sorting.

Starting point is 03:02:12 Well, we have lots of mail carriers here. So maybe Sir T.J. The Raffle or someone else can let us know what that's all about. And once again, congratulations to our brand new dame. That is Dame Joan of Barque and our brand new night surf fest Eddie of Alameda the island of boobs and whenever we say that name we have to end it with this. Well we do have a meetup taking place today, but before we get to that, we have a couple

Starting point is 03:02:48 of meetup reports. The first one is from Southwest New Hampshire, the Keen meetup. This is the meetup report for Keen New Hampshire. There was five of us. We had about a three hour long amygdala shrinking discussion about COVID, but we didn't talk about Trump or Biden. It's true. What do you think about Biden?

Starting point is 03:03:09 Don't eat me, Borgiton. It's so scary. So scary. What about Trump? Don't eat me, Borgiton. What about Trump? Don't eat, don't squish me. I didn't spot any spooks or anything like that.

Starting point is 03:03:24 He's got a great voice. That voice was perfect. We could use more of that. Yeah, we want more material from that voice before it changes. Final meetup report is the Dallas-Forth Worth report and this of course was the birthday meetup from the Dirty Jersey Whore. We need some nap pop. In the morning, we're coming to you from Dallas, Texas.

Starting point is 03:03:48 It's the Dirty Jersey Whore Meetup Birthday Celebration. It was the bomb! In the morning, we're coming to you from Dallas, Texas. Lee Harvey's. Matthew, future Knight of the Black Bayou. I'm the Spook. This is Sir Chris from Saxie, Texas. In the morning.

Starting point is 03:04:14 Hey, this is Chris in Dallas. Adam, I think I have a crush on the fat lady. Is she single? If you got her number, be my wingman. Hey, John, let's start a harmonica jam band. Oh, oh brother, I dropped it. We're still going. We're still going.

Starting point is 03:04:32 You're gonna have to edit it. This is dirty, dirty horror. Apparently somebody's birthday was today. It's not mine. I don't know what y'all talking about. We'll fix all this in post. Don't worry about it. We'll do it live.

Starting point is 03:04:40 Stop the hammering! Hey, anyway, we're coming to you from Dallas Texas we're having a great time we're having a birthday celebration in the morning slaves I'm having a great time and I hope you are too no agenda nation 2024 Oh whoops I didn't hit record sorry. Texas is a place I really love to be. Nah, be honest about it. Who wouldn't want to join a party like that? That's what a lot of the No Agenda Meetups are like. They really are. You should join one at least once in your life I guarantee you you'll want to go back. Now today you could be at the longest standing member London meetup which may be all hammered

Starting point is 03:05:28 by now. That was at the real ale way. This of course was Gwiff's meetup in Kent so hopefully we'll get a meetup report from them. Gwiff was always good about the promos. Tomorrow in Perth Australia the WA is Western Australia not Washington meetup hey we know that seven o'clock Australian Western Standard Time gauge road Fremantle Brewery in Fremantle Western Australia not Washington please send us

Starting point is 03:05:55 a meter per port we love the reports from overseas on Saturday the fears free to meet up in Old Town that's three o'clock in home and away in San Diego California and on Saturday the barbecue of barbecue music and fear That's the Wobo meetup that's been promoted with donations four o'clock Dutch Oh gee time in town park Lisbon. That's in Amsterdam the Netherlands showed Sir Joe Dirks who has been donating to promote it will be organizing that many more awesome donating to promote it, we'll be organizing that. Many more awesome locations to visit for your meetups including Trinidad and Tobago coming up.

Starting point is 03:06:30 What else is there? Awesome places like Fort Wayne, Indiana. There's all kinds of great places you can go to a meetup. You can find them at noagendameetups.com. It's all producer organized so y'all pitch in and you make it work and you make friends and you start telegram groups and you all keep Gitmo Nation on the map. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself, NoAgendaMeetups.com. Sometimes you wanna go hang out

Starting point is 03:06:57 with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you want be, trigger all hell's flame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party Now we always like to choose a fun ISO to end the show with and you win today John, just like on the last show I won because I have zero ISOs I have a lot.

Starting point is 03:07:25 I know, so let's hear them. Well, let's start with good luck. Good luck and God bless. For real, for real. For real, for real. Okay, that's not bad. And we'll go to greener. Greener, healthier, and more effective.

Starting point is 03:07:37 Okay, is it all right? Yeah, I like that. Yeah, that's kind of good. Grow and grow. Watch your hose grow. Cleaner, healthier, and more effective. Okay. It's all right. Yeah, I like that. Sorry, I like that. Yeah, that's kind of cool.

Starting point is 03:07:48 Grow and grow. Watch your hose grow and grow. I like the hose growing and growing. Yes, I like that one. And the other one is love hose. I love my hose. Okay, these are good. Those are both commemorating the Gay Pride event in San Francisco.

Starting point is 03:08:11 No doubt, no doubt. Then I got the idea, well, you know, this is the 4th of July and the thing to do is you got to be careful you don't blow your hand off. So I thought a stay safe ending would be perfect. And I wanted to introduce it with a medley of the Stay Safe, not as an ISO, but as a medley, to remind us what was going on during COVID on some of the networks.

Starting point is 03:08:34 Oh, goodness. Yes, I forgot. I wanted to play the Stay Safe medley. Haley Birdwil, thank you so much for being here, and please stay safe. Congressman Adam Schiff, thank you so much for being here tonight, and please stay safe. Colorado Secretary of State Jenna Griswold, thank you so much for being here and please stay safe. Congressman Adam Schiff, thank you so much for being here tonight and please stay safe. Colorado Secretary of State Jenna Griswold, thank you so much for being here tonight.

Starting point is 03:08:50 Please stay safe. NBC News correspondent Priscilla Thompson, thank you so much for being here tonight and please stay safe. Lee Merritt, thank you so much for your time tonight. Please stay safe. Timothy O'Brien, thank you so much for being here tonight. Please stay safe. State Representative Jeremy Gray, I want to thank you for your here tonight. Please stay safe. State Representative Jeremy Gray, I wanna thank you for your time tonight

Starting point is 03:09:05 and please stay safe. Yeah, yeah, that was literally what it was, wasn't it? It was ridiculous. And we had our own, which was stay safe with Jesus. Well, that's what I dug up. So I have two, there's actually two of them. I forgot this one. The first one is the yell.

Starting point is 03:09:21 Stay safe! Stay safe yell. Which I thought was a bit much and there's another version of it, which is a softer version, which is my, what I'd like to see is this is a regular stay safe. I don't have that. I don't see. You should have stay safe. I saw stay safe medley stay safe.

Starting point is 03:09:39 Yell. Let's see. Oh, okay. I think this is the, this is the one. That one? Yeah. Stay safe. Unless that was the yell. Yeah.

Starting point is 03:09:51 Nothing kind of beats the- I love my hose. Fine. Nothing beats the hose. It's not good news. It's good advice. John C's tip of the day. That's right, everybody.

Starting point is 03:10:03 It's time for John C Dvorak's tip of the, it's good advice. John C's Tip of the Day. That's right everybody, it's time for John C. Dvorak's Tip of the Day as we leave you with some good advice, a tip, something that you can use for your travels, for your life, for your world. John, what do you have for us today? Well, since we brought it up earlier in the show, is that if you're on a flight, you're flying around the world, you're going overseas, especially on the flight out.

Starting point is 03:10:27 Not so he's not as important on the way back because you'd be at home sick. Don't eat shrimp on an airplane. Avoid shrimp on the flight out and avoid a fruit on the flight out. If I recall correctly, you, the original warning was even more dire. It was don't eat seafood the night before you leave. That's another one. Don't eat seafood the night before you leave.

Starting point is 03:10:57 Don't eat shrimp on a plane. Don't eat fruit on the plane. Yes. Don't eat, in other words, don't go out and have an oyster dinner the night before your flight. And don't eat, don't, in other words, don't go out and have an oyster dinner the night before your flight. And don't eat the chicken on the plane! Tim of the day, Tim of the day, Tim of the day, Tim of the day, just the tip.

Starting point is 03:11:18 Just the tip everybody, John C. Dvorak. Fabulous as always. That wraps up our, we didn't have to do it but we love you so we did anyway. July 4th episode and we're working throughout the whole July 4th weekend. We'll be here on Sunday of course. We do have a patriotic wink wink nudge nudge end of show mix sir Nedwood we've got sir Chris Wilson we've got sir seat sitter and professor Jay Jones all laying it on you and the stream also continues right after we're done here if you're listening on your modern podcast app or at trollroom.io. We have Jim Briney, Congressional Dish. This is episode

Starting point is 03:12:08 295. We didn't actually talk about it much today. The consequences of the Supreme Court. We'll have to see what she says about it. Coming to you from the not so exploding Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we may have some fireworks tonight that actually get through the fog. I'm John C. Dvorak. Happy birthday America.

Starting point is 03:12:31 Enjoy your Fourth of July everybody. Remember us at noagenthodonations.com until Sunday, adios, both foes. A hooey hooey and such. Raise high, don't get far, not so well. In the morning, in our nation, we are all charged up to me. Curing resources in service in all lands and all ships of the sea

Starting point is 03:13:10 From east to west, down under to the lowlands and beyond We are happy and destructive Smaked, we're a kid no nation song Douchebags in your land, douchebags in my land From Commie-Fornia to the Gitmo Island Like a dick out of Shar, two Maxine waters, and douchebags to piss off you and me. Thank you very much. Howdy, y'all.

Starting point is 03:13:52 It's me here again with a quick reminder about what's really important on this Fourth of July. You see, a lot of people are proud to be Americans, and that's wrong. If tomorrow the orange man was gone, I'd be happy with my life. After the communist win, everything will be just fine. Hitting Nazis with crowbars and with cement milkshakes Cause the fag is an Asian fascist It's not like Nazis can't be gay And I'm proud to be an antifa man

Starting point is 03:14:36 Rising up against free speech And I won't forget the M5M For always defending me And I'll't forget the M5M for always defending me And I'll gladly stand up and throw at you a balloon that's full of pee Cause it's the only route to stop the orange man from being president for eternity Remember folks, America sucks and it's never too late to start punching Nazis and violently assaulting Republicans, centrist journalists and anyone who made Hillary lose by voting for Jill Stein.

Starting point is 03:15:17 We are at war with Russia. We are already on the precipice of losing the freedom and independence of the nation. We are no longer a free people. The CIA and the CIA are not going to be able to do anything to stop us. We are going to be the only ones who can stop us. We are going to be the only ones who can stop us. We are going to be the only ones who can stop us. We are going to be the only ones who can stop us. We are going to be the only ones who can stop us. We are going to be the only ones who can stop us. We are going to be the only ones who can stop us. We are going to be theice of losing the freedom and independence of the nation.

Starting point is 03:15:26 We are no longer a free people. The CIA and FBI and Homeland Security were beholden to scum. They said something. A man for whom the Russians interfered with our election. Russian scum! Why does the West hate Russia? This is a reality. The nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread.

Starting point is 03:15:47 The fire hose of lies that is Donald Trump can't amount to treason. The most immoral decisions in the history of the free press. And it seems like Russia is in on it. The usurper has no validity. A man whom the Russians wanted to run our country for the comes from Russia. No man whom the Russians wanted to run our country for them comes from Russia. No authority under the Constitution.

Starting point is 03:16:09 What is with this deep-seated hatred of Russia? They said something. The decision to not fact-check by CNN were the most immoral decisions in the history of the free press. It can't amount to treason. Act of war. How dare you? CNN should Stay woke!

Starting point is 03:16:31 Fire everybody I think that sounds pretty good. and burn the goddamn place to the ground. Stay woke! CNN should Fire everybody and burn the goddamn place to the ground. CNN should...

Starting point is 03:16:50 Where's the AI to fix all that, huh? Shut up already! ...fire everybody... Science! ...and burn the goddamn place to the ground. It was about Russia! How dare you? At some point tonight, seal off the buildings, go off the air in shame.

Starting point is 03:17:14 Why does the West hate Russia? Fire everybody. Stay woke! And burn the goddamn place to the ground. CNN should. Russian scum! Fire everybody. place to the ground CNN should fire everybody I think that sounds pretty good and burn the goddamn place to the ground where's the AI to fix all that huh

Starting point is 03:17:55 I love my host!

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