No Agenda - 1685 - "Favela Ready"

Starting point is 00:00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, August 11, 2024. This show award winning, Kibble Nation Media, assassination episode 1685. This is No Agenda. Vaping in the boys' room and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA, region number six.

Starting point is 00:00:20 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. From Northern Silicon Valley, we have throngs of people created by AI. What a winner. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. I spent significant time looking at that yesterday. That?

Starting point is 00:00:40 At the throngs of people. Well, there's more than one or two examples. Here's the only thing. I cannot find any evidence the Harris campaign has actually posted any of these pictures. Seems to me that people are making them and then saying, look what they posted! Does that include the airplane one? Which is my favorite. Yeah, the airplane.

Starting point is 00:01:08 I found the origin of the airplane one. It's an AP picture and the way it was done is there, I guess the hair, they're copying everything. The Harris campaign, Harris Waltz, Haywaltz campaign. Harry balls. Harry. There you go, Harry Balls. They're doing hanger appearances. So it was a shot that was, it was a shot from the back of a hanger was cropped. And that by itself already gives an illusion that people are all the way up to the plane.

Starting point is 00:01:41 And then, you know, there's probably some other stuff put in there, but I, what I, and I did Google image, I tried everything I could. I couldn't find any evidence that the Harris campaign, the Harry Balls campaign actually posted that picture. That's my problem with it. I haven't done that research. And I think a lot of the stuff eventually

Starting point is 00:02:07 Originate on Facebook. So you'd have to go to Facebook to do this and you know that no, that's a good point. That's a good point Some some producers have been looking for me and they they haven't got much further than the AP picture either Although it doesn't look like the AP picture has been doctored But there's a lot of shenanigans going on. There's, you know, they're doing appearances in, you know, at free concerts with a bunch of, you know, with some Spotify Latino star. And then they'll do a little pregame. So, yeah.

Starting point is 00:02:39 But ultimately it's kind of working because I think Trump is responding, oh it's not true, it's fake. So they're kind of getting under his skin with all this nonsense. But that's a meme. What's a meme? I'm not absolutely sure they're getting under his skin, but I keep hearing that on CNBC and on our CNN and MSNBC that he's getting under his skin.

Starting point is 00:03:03 In fact today, that guy Steele, the black guy who used to be Republican. He used to be the head of the Republican party, yeah. Which was a sign, a bad sign, since he never was a Republican, it seems. Now he is the substitute host for Jen Suckey. Well, of course, he's always on MSNBC. He does Sunday mornings with Robin Sanders, he used to run the Bernie campaign.

Starting point is 00:03:31 Oh yeah, he's always on that show. So he was on This Morning going on and on about us getting under Trump's skin. Oh, okay. Well, I thought he had responded to the crowd size. I don't have proof of that. I do have proof of them saying that. And of course, now that you mention it, I guess that right away we have to discredit it. Here's Joy Reid. I want to play this lie that Donald Trump did in his string of lies yesterday that really is- String of lies. String of lies.

Starting point is 00:04:05 Show title already, everybody. A sundowning press conference that he did. This is a story he told about Willie Brown. Shouldn't it be the necklace of lies or something? I mean, string of lies is, I don't know, let's keep it there. Oh yeah, this is the Willie Brown story. This is funny. And I want you all to note that he talked about Willie Brown.

Starting point is 00:04:22 All right, take a listen. I know Willie Brown very well. In fact, I went down in a helicopter with him. We thought maybe this is the end. He told me terrible things about her. Okay. That's not who he meant. Trump was never in a helicopter with Willie Brown.

Starting point is 00:04:37 Willie Brown came out with a statement. He laughed when he heard Trump's allegations is that he's nothing but respect and admiration for Kamala Harris, for Vice President Harris. Willie Brown says he looks forward to electing her to be the president and says the debate will probably be unfair because Trump is so inept. The Brown that he meant was Jerry Brown. Jerry Brown, who was the governor, but said that he's never said anything bad about Vice President Harris either.

Starting point is 00:05:01 It was Gavin Newsom who was in a helicopter with Trump when they were surveying wildfire damage. And he said that he remembers Trump worrying about the helicopter crashing, calling the town pleasure instead of paradise and suggesting California rake its forests. Trump never had an emergency landing in a helicopter. Okay. So I played the wrong clip because I had the crowd clip. I'll play that in a minute. But since we're on this, a couple of things, string of lies. There was actually been two, well, there was a horrible crash with the Trump helicopter in 89, where everyone died.

Starting point is 00:05:34 But he had a tail strike when he was on it. There was another instance when Ivanka and Jared had an engine issue. So it's not like he's never had a problem in the helicopter, but I could not find, have my my fly boys looking we're trying to find ATC we're trying to find NTSB reports I cannot find any emergency landing from any Trump helicopter other than those two, two times but Trump is seems to

Starting point is 00:06:00 be adamant about it. And that would be pretty stupid if you didn't know. I think you remember something like that. But I watched like 20 minutes of Willie Brown interview, which is not even worth clipping. He doesn't deny it. He just says, no, no, no, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He didn't deny it at any point in that. I don't know if you saw that in like the restaurant. Does Willie Brown just live in the restaurant in San Francisco? He's in there

Starting point is 00:06:29 during the day, everyone's putting the tablecloths on. It's like, Mr. Brown, your table's ready. Well in the olden days when Stars was still in business, which was the restaurant to go to, I went there a number of times with Mimi and Willie Brown was always there. Yeah. So it's more likely that it didn't happen because Willie Brown lives in the restaurant than

Starting point is 00:06:53 Trump is lying. Here's a small crowd clip. This is from CNN. Yesterday, Trump went so far. This is why we're talking about this today. He compared the attendance of the rally that he held on January 6th, 2021, which of course was right before the Capitol insurrection.

Starting point is 00:07:09 Many of those people walked down the mall to the Capitol to one of the most iconic speeches that's been delivered here in America. Look at Martin Luther King when he did his speech, his great speech, and you look at ours, same real estate, same everything, same number of people, if not, we had more. This is a whole new level.

Starting point is 00:07:32 MLK. The thing about his obsession with crowds is, my mother always taught me when a man is arguing about size of anything, in this case, crowds, where there's an obsession. This is a family morning show. It is. I'm just saying, all I'm going to say is he's probably insecure.

Starting point is 00:07:50 I'll just leave it there. I think women know what I'm talking about. Whether it's your car, it's your crowd, it's your, you know, whatever. Yeah, yeah. So that's probably the only thing he said about it. So they are trying to bring back a lot of stuff. Seems like the media is really... I can only think of it this way.

Starting point is 00:08:14 We screwed up before. Can we go back and take a look at what we did and rejigger it? Maybe that'll make a difference. They're definitely preoccupied. I mean, it's, it was even difficult to get other topics for today. It's just like, what is going on? It's like everyone's hair on fire, running around on social media. Turn on the television, same thing.

Starting point is 00:08:45 Um, this was, This was interesting though. We know that in Nevada, which is the big service sector, Trump, almost a month ago, I think at this point, said, he told this whole story about this waitress, server. And he was like, Mr. Trump is so hard. And he says, how about this? I've've got an idea how about no taxes on tips so when Kamala Harris when Harry Balls was in Vegas this is what happened. Vice President Harris touchdown. Oops sorry this one. And it is my promise to

Starting point is 00:09:19 everyone here when I am president we will continue our fight for working families of America. Including to raise the minimum wage and eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers. That's pretty awesome. Just take it from Trump and just lay it out there like it's something new. That was good.

Starting point is 00:09:53 I would have advised that. That was the Bill Clinton trick. Oh, do tell. Bill Clinton, they always said, was the best Republican candidate that Democrats ever put in there. He would do that constantly. Whatever the idea was from the other side of the aisle, he'd make it his. And he did it very consistently. And after a while, I said, well, okay.

Starting point is 00:10:16 It's good. I mean, I can't falter for it. It's like not bad at all. Well done. CBS though, they were doing, they did a kind of an excellent propaganda piece with poll numbers. And also, what's really good now is they're doing the picture of Kamala versus Trump. And so Kamala is all smiley and joyful. And Trump, it's the grumpy.

Starting point is 00:10:49 It's the picture from the mugshot. So you just look at it and you see, happy over here. Mean, mad guy over here with all kinds. I mean, just listen to it and you'll see what they're doing over at CBS. Vice President Harris touched down in Las Vegas Saturday and rallied supporters with her running mate Tim Walz. With your help, this November, we will win. We will win. It capped a week-long battleground blitz with packed arenas listening to her take on former President

Starting point is 00:11:19 Trump. I know Donald Trump's type. But she shut down the crowd when they chanted, lock him up, about Trump. Hold on, hold on. The courts gonna take care of that. We just don't beat him in November. We don't beat him in November. A new New York Times, CNN College poll finds Harris ahead among likely voters in three

Starting point is 00:11:39 key states, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Former President Trump held fundraisers in Wyoming and Colorado Saturday after a Montana rally Friday night. We're going to evict crazy Kamala. But this moment before Trump spoke is grabbing attention. Celine Dion's My Heart Will Go On played for the crowd. The singer released a statement saying, in no way is this use authorized,

Starting point is 00:12:07 and Celine Dion does not endorse this or any similar use. Meanwhile, the Trump campaign says it was hacked. Politico first reported receiving internal campaign research documents from an anonymous sender. The Trump campaign suggesting Iran may be behind the hack. Now this was rather interesting. First of all, we've got some spokesmen from the Trump camp saying, we were hacked by Iran.

Starting point is 00:12:35 Huh? Microsoft coming out immediately. Oh, yeah. No, that was a... And they always do this. Spear phishing. Don't we just say fishing? Why does the media always say spear fishing?

Starting point is 00:12:51 Cause I suppose it's cause it's targeted as opposed to mass mailing, I guess. I don't know. I don't know why they do that. It's, it's odd. By the way, Trump should just call her kooky camera. This crazy camel is no good. Kuki would be better. He's still fishing around for some, I don't, I don't get why he hasn't used cackling. That's the one that we both think is better. Cackling, but I, Kuki would work.

Starting point is 00:13:15 The Iran thing is kind of interesting because, uh, in security circles, Iran is notorious for being possibly better hackers than the Ukrainians. Mm-hmm. And, uh, I suppose they'd rather have Kamala in. I don't know what the deal is with this particular hack. Well, I think it's, to me, first of all, Microsoft comes out right away. Microsoft, you know Microsoft is notorious. They're leaky as a sieve.

Starting point is 00:13:47 So they also just did a deal with, where is it here? They just did a deal with Palantir to sell AI systems into the intelligence community. And Microsoft just can't be trusted. I mean, come on. We can't. No, they got back doors that go right straight to the NSA. So, and what was that? What actually came out, I guess, ProPublica, the same guys who did the, you know,

Starting point is 00:14:15 all the rushing Russian information. Another group that can't be trusted. Yeah. So to me, it's more like, and what came out? Oh, we have a 271 pages on research on JD Vance. One portion which was marked possible vulnerabilities. Hello, that's what you do when you vet a candidate. Totally. That's all you do.

Starting point is 00:14:40 So this document is not interesting, but it could be a little signal, because that's the one thing everyone forgets is the intelligence community, they hate Trump the most. I really have to believe that. That, you know, they like to be in control, the military industrial complex, you know, even big pharma to a degree. I think he's got MIC kind of placated with his iron dome over America. Imagine what that's going to cost us.

Starting point is 00:15:08 Big beautiful ships. So, Trump, we'll get our money. We don't have to go to war maybe. I think they're okay, but the intelligence agencies, just as they were saying, well, you know, it's, uh, this is all Russian disinformation. Now it's like, Oh, Iran did it. Oh yeah. Iran who knows?

Starting point is 00:15:31 You know, and now it gives them the opportunity to put out some other bogus stuff and just say, Oh, it's from the Iran hack. You know what I mean? Totally, totally. And I hate to use that word. You know, I ran into Michael Hayden. Totally. Totally.

Starting point is 00:15:47 The bald guy, Michael Hayden, who's also one of the big Sines on that 51 guy. You ran into him? No, I ran into his post on Twitter. Oh, okay. He has an account. On Twitter. And it might as well just be Rob Reiner. He is totally preoccupied with hating on Trump and extolling the virtues of Camilla.

Starting point is 00:16:16 Yeah, she's the damnedest thing I've ever seen. People should look it up and it's got a check mark. It's general Michael Hayden is our general or whatever he is. He's air force general, I guess. And he goes on and on. He was head of the CIA and NSA. And he's just nuts. Yeah. Well, again, those guys like to run everything. CIA ran Obama.

Starting point is 00:16:35 I can totally see it. Here's a shorty. Same thing, I guess. Same story. The Trump campaign also announced today it was hacked. The breach was first reported by Politico, which received internal documents from an anonymous account. The Trump campaign is now blaming hackers from Iran. Wait a minute. Oh, sorry.

Starting point is 00:16:53 Politico. I thought it was ProPublica. Politico. Um, hmm. Yeah, it was Politico. Politico. Wait, what is this? I thought you were talking about ProPublica doing something else.

Starting point is 00:17:01 That's what I thought it was. They're always involved in something. What was it? The Trump campaign also announced today it was hacked. Politico. Politico. Politico was Politico. Wait, what? I thought you were talking about pro-public. That's what I thought it was. They're always involved in something. The Trump campaign also announced today it was hacked. The breach was first reported by Politico, which received internal documents from an anonymous account.

Starting point is 00:17:16 The Trump campaign is now blaming hackers from Iran. Yes, I remember what one was saying. It was from an AOL.com account. And I can tell you with some authority that many former intelligence people and current intelligence people use AOL.com accounts. Why? I don't know. I have no idea. Maybe because back when the AOL… Code?

Starting point is 00:17:38 Could be code. Maybe back in the day when the AOL accounts were available. You know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don no idea. Maybe because back when the AOL- Code? Could be code. Maybe back in the day when the AOL accounts were available.

Starting point is 00:17:49 You know who had an AOL account? Pachanik. Pachanik had an AOL account. There's other guys. There's for some reason they have AOL accounts. So I'm not sure. I didn't even know- I probably still have an AOL account.

Starting point is 00:18:04 I had Dvorak at AOL.com, but I don't know how to access it. I don't know. That's the problem. I have no idea. I don't know remembering a password. I don't know how to do it anymore. Glenn Greenwald made a good observation about Kamala Harris, and I'll revamp this clip that we played two shows ago. Remember when the protesters started yelling at her and she said,

Starting point is 00:18:33 I'm talking, you know? I'll play it again, it's just short. Tax breaks to billionaires and big corporations. He intends to cut Social Security and Medicare. He intends to surrender social security and Medicare. He intends to surrender our fight against the climate crisis and he intends to end the Affordable Care Act. You know what?

Starting point is 00:18:54 If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that, otherwise I'm speaking. So Greenwald posted a page from Animal Farm, classic, classic novel, Orwell's Animal Farm. I'll read it to you. We pigs are brain workers. The whole management and organization of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake that we drink that milk and eat those apples. Do you know what would happen if we pigs failed in our duty?

Starting point is 00:19:25 Farmer Jones would come back. Yes, Jones would come back. Surely comrades cried squeal or almost pleadingly skipping from side to side and whisking his tail. Surely there's no one among you who wants to see Jones come back. Very good observation from Greenwald.

Starting point is 00:19:44 There is, the pig the pigs and animal farm. It's fantastic. Yeah. Well, that's what it looks like. Yeah. Now, amidst all this, I've had a couple of thoughts about this when actually it was Nancy Pelosi popped up this morning in my feed with a, I'm not sure who she is.

Starting point is 00:20:04 She's been showing up everywhere. Yes. And you've got to wonder why. Let me see. This was... I want to stop you as you go on to this. You have to wonder why. Is it possible that Biden is going to rebuke his being kicked out?

Starting point is 00:20:26 Wait, I have a thought about that. Listen to what Pelosi says here. And this is about the letter that appeared on a Thursday right at the beginning of our show day. No White House letterhead looked like a signature that was at least not what he has used before, so possibly forged. And here's what she said. This just came in this morning. I didn't accept a letter as anything but a letter. I mean,

Starting point is 00:20:56 I mean, there are some people who were unhappy with the letter. Let me say, some said that some people were unhappy with the letter. I'll put it in somebody else's mouth. because it was a, I don't even know. It didn't sound like Joe Biden to me. It really didn't. So what is she saying here?

Starting point is 00:21:13 She's saying that Joe Biden didn't write it. The Jill might've written it or someone else. Well, actually, if you start looking into it, Mike Donald wrote the letter. Oh, that's his campaign guy? No, Mike Donilon is more than his campaign guy. If you look him up in the Wikipedia, you'll find out that Mike Donilon, who is the brother of Tom Donilon, Black Rock, the two brothers are in it together. Tom Donilon is the one who Seymour Hersh

Starting point is 00:21:49 thinks is running everything. But Mike Donilon is the guy that's in the White House. He takes credit for writing the letter. He said so much. It's not like a big mystery. I don't know why this is becoming a mystery to everybody. Nobody wants to talk about this guy. He did, I mean, he's been is becoming a mystery to everybody. Nobody wants to talk about this guy. He did.

Starting point is 00:22:08 I mean, he's been running Biden since 81 or so. It's all listed in there. It was also Bill Clinton's, uh, he was in Clinton, chief of staff in for the state department. It says chief of staff in former Bill Clinton state department, former national security advisor to Obama. There you go. Yeah. No, this guy's running things. And he, if you look around, admits that he wrote the letter. Oh, I didn't see that. I didn't know that. Well, why is Nancy Pelosi being so weird about it if

Starting point is 00:22:36 it's out there that he wrote the letter? I don't know where she's getting, she's weird about something. And Donald and quit left in January. And then came, he supposedly quit in January, but yet he wrote the letter, which was in July. So he's never really left. He's just still hanging around. And now they have Paul Podesta and people like that running the show. This something is very fishy about all this.

Starting point is 00:23:03 And I liken the idea that Biden's going to come out on the first day of the conventions, hey, I didn't quit. I ever wrote that letter. Yeah. I want my votes back. Hello. It could be that or I mean, you know, I've been watching Veep. We've been binge watching.

Starting point is 00:23:19 Yes, you're using this as the parallel universe to analyze the situation currently underway. Yes. And last night, yeah, I mean, yes, exactly. Last night, we got to the episode where Selena Meyer is campaigning for president and she has a debate and she comes in second, some douchebag baseball coach does much better. And then all of a sudden she gets word the president is going to resign because his wife keeps trying to commit suicide and she's going to be president. And I thought, wouldn't that be so there's two ways.

Starting point is 00:23:54 And remember, I also watched Dave. I mean, all this stuff just keeps popping up for me. It's like, you know, so the options are Biden keels over dead at the right at the beginning because he's scheduled to speak on the first night I think. So he keels over, you know, or dead just keels over or that daddy long legs guy comes in and keels over. That could be one option. The other is Biden comes out and says, hey, I want you like you say, I want my votes back. I didn't do it. Like you say, I want my votes back. I didn't do it.

Starting point is 00:24:24 I was... Or he just says, you know, I'm looking at the National Enquirer, which I picked up at HEB because that now is that still Trump's guys who run the National Enquirer? Yeah. Yeah. So front page, real reason Biden quit. It's not what you think.

Starting point is 00:24:45 Untold story. So. Well, there you go. There's your tease. I got you to buy it. Of course. Well, I was reading it and the article is almost at the end. And so I'm reading it as the belt is going and I felt like such a douche.

Starting point is 00:24:58 I'm like, okay, I guess I have to buy it now because they can see me leafing through the whole thing. But then they have, old Joe won't last four more years. Shocking reason. Biden quit presidential race. And then they have some psychologist, Holly Schiff, who basically says, now he's got dementia. Well, what reason was there otherwise? I mean, that was a fake. That was bogus. That's a breakthrough thought. It was bogus. That's a breakthrough thought. That's bogus. Totally bogus. Now. Well the possibility, I kind of agree with these, these different scenarios.

Starting point is 00:25:31 And we have to, we got till the 19th to keep dreaming them up. But the other possibility is that, you know, that he real, I think it now, as I look back on the debate, I think they, you know, cause they're always going to get jacked up. Up Joe's was missing and we're always wondering why. Is it possible that they actually gave him a sedative instead of his normal amphetamine cocktail or whatever they do to get him jacked up? So he, so he was out there just having you in a daze and he just know what to do. He figures this out.

Starting point is 00:26:05 He gets rid of the doctors who screwed him over for the debate, gets another guy, you know, Dr. Feel-good character in there to jack him up. So he is all wired to the gills, uh, on the, uh, on the 19th. And that's when he freaks out and wants his votes back. This could be fun. It's very possible. I went to YouTube and let me see where's Joe.

Starting point is 00:26:30 What's he doing? Cause you haven't heard much about Joe and it's really not Joe. It's really Jill. New at 11, President Joe Biden and first lady Jill Biden are heading to New Orleans. They will attend a Biden cancer moonshot event in the city on Tuesday. Details are limited on what time and where. They have not been released yet. In March

Starting point is 00:26:52 of 2023, the First Lady visited the Louisiana Cancer Research Center in New Orleans to stress the importance of cancer research. You remember Dr. Jill, you know, she should have been surgeon general because she's a great doctor according to Whoopi Goldberg. So they're still out there, they're still, you know, twiddling around. I mean it could be super fun. It would be so boring if he just gets up there and goes and there's nothing. It would be great. And just think about it. If, and I have not seen the rest of V, but if she becomes president, then immediately there's all kinds of issues that come into play. A, first of all, Trump's merchandise sucks.

Starting point is 00:27:35 He's got to redo all that, that can basically up the GDP of China for all the new hats. Second, can she then be blamed for everything that's happening? Which I mean, can she even campaign as much with two wars and Iran and all this stuff going on? And could that be a rug pull from Obama? Who knows? I mean, we're just dreaming here, but man. I know we're having nothing but fun. Yeah, that's true. We're dreaming up screwball ideas and scenarios. That could happen.

Starting point is 00:28:11 Any one of them could happen. Yeah, but I don't hear anyone else coming up with these screwball ideas. Just us. I don't know why. Well, it's because you got the partisan media. You know, if they were a partisan, like the No Agenda Show, where we don't really take necessarily sides,

Starting point is 00:28:28 we just look for explanations that make sense. A lot of this makes sense if you think about it. It was presented by Trump that Biden might do that. But once that thought is triggered, then you have to take it to some, you know, some logical extreme and say, well, what happens if he does this or that? And then what would happen if Biden went and said, I want my votes back? Chaos. It would be great. Well, then there's the lone wolf out there who showed up on for some reason now a no agenda fan favorite Jesse Waters and I always your turn I always the balls in your court now your turn to play Jesse Waters but I cut him out of my clips here's Bobby the op we finished the trial today we had

Starting point is 00:29:19 a one-week trial in Albany the DNC is trying to get me off the ballot in New York State and then all the other states. So they're essentially suing me in every state. In order to get on the ballot in this state, they made so many signatures. You need to get 47,000 signatures in 45 days. They tried to make it insurmountable. We got 150,000 signatures. We got a million signatures nationally and we're now on the ballot. We have enough signatures now to get on the ballot in every state. Something everybody said we couldn't do. There's a million Americans who want to vote, who want to see my name on the ballot. But the DNC strategy is to make sure that they will not see me on the ballot. My father and uncle when they were running the Democratic Party, their big objective was to make sure that every

Starting point is 00:30:11 American could vote. And today the DNC is about making sure that people don't have that opportunity. Now if it's true what he's saying, why? Why are they so worried about him? Other than, man, Joe could do something really wacky and Then Bobby the op might pop up all of a sudden. I think a lot of people are so sick of everything They'd be like, ah, the most sane guy right now seems to be RFK jr. Rogan would come out for him Lots of people would say yeah, this guy's the only guy who's to even though there's a lot of problems with him You know what I mean? Yeah. I, well, they just worry he's going to siphon votes away from the Democrat

Starting point is 00:30:49 ticket. Yeah. I don't think it's any more to it than that. Maybe. You don't know. I mean, Jill Stein's not going to sucker any votes away anymore. Mary Ann Williams, Mary Ann Williamson. Here's the Swift O op somewhat in play.

Starting point is 00:31:05 And it is my promise to everyone here when I am president. Oh, sorry, wrong one. I'm not good today at my. Yeah, you've you've. I'm sucking. I'm sucking man. Taylor Swift. Falling apart. Yeah, I am. Did Taylor Swift endorse Kamala Harris? The megastar has yet to make a public endorsement,

Starting point is 00:31:22 but fans think an Instagram post from two days ago on Swift's account contained a silhouette eerily similar to Kamala Harris as a telltale sign. Ooh, telltale sign, eerily similar. Mmm. Who cares what Taylor Swift's gonna do? Well, she has all those 13 year olds who can't vote. It's very important. Uh, uh. Well, they can vote if it's a Democrat state.

Starting point is 00:31:47 If they're 13? Oh, any age, it doesn't matter. Six. You're good kid, come on in. Do you know your address? Can you tell me your address? You don't need to see, I don't have to show ID, don't worry about it.

Starting point is 00:32:04 I have two more Pelosi clips. Maybe there's something in here we can glean. Tell me your address. Tell me your address. You don't need to see it. You don't have to show ID. Don't worry about it. I have two more Pelosi clips. Maybe there's something in here we can glean because she was, she is everywhere suddenly saying that thing about Biden. There's something going. This is what makes me think something's up because why? Why is she anywhere? Well, here she is.

Starting point is 00:32:21 And they always call her the Speaker Emeritus. When did that title show up? Do they call Kevin McCarthy the Speaker Emeritus? Am I the VJ Emeritus? Yeah, you would be by their standards. Are you columnist Emeritus for PC Magazine? Emeritus, yeah, PC Magazine Emeritus. I like it.

Starting point is 00:32:40 I like VJ Emeritus. I'm going to use that from now on. Hello, Adam Curry. It actually sounds like a good name for guys doing mixing. Yeah, mixologist. Mixologist specifically for mixing drinks, never mind. When Joe, Lara Logan's husband, introduced me to General Flynn, he should have said, this is a VJ Emeritus. Oh, the other right honorable Adam Curry, VJ Emeritus. Here's Joy Reid again with Nancy. I do want to talk a little bit about that. You're from, emerged from that San Francisco

Starting point is 00:33:14 political world. Of course, you are from Baltimore, you're from Beemore, but you came up in San Francisco. And there's something about the Bay Area. Beemore? Who says Beemore? And there's something about the Bay Area. Let me just list- Be more. Baltimore is be more. I've never heard be more. Maybe it's a Joy Reid thing. I don't know. Be more. Be more.

Starting point is 00:33:33 You came up in San Francisco and there's something about the Bay Area. Let me just list them. The late great Harvey Milk, Diane Feinstein, Jerry Brown, the former governor, yourself, Speaker Pelosi, Gavin Newsom, the current governor, and of course, Vice President Harris. What are they putting in the water in the Bay Area that creates so many powerful people?

Starting point is 00:33:53 Don't forget Barbara Boxer. Don't we're so proud of her as well. Wait a minute, Kamala is from, she's from Oakland, not San Francisco. Or do you consider that to be the San Francisco? Same water as the San Francisco? Have the same water as Oakland? Yeah, hitchhitchy. Oh, there you go.

Starting point is 00:34:14 One of the things that is in the water is that we're an intellectual resource in almost every issue you can name. It's a hotbed of activity where they're talking about saving the planet, saving our rights, fairness in every way in our economy. But we also respect each other. We are not all in the same place on the spectrum. We don't always agree, but we respect each other. And we do not take down anybody. So we're always building strength. We respect each other, everybody. Respect. She says, respect.

Starting point is 00:34:48 No, but I'm saying, expect. Here's the second part. Kamala, you have to give her credit. She is politically astute. She won a tough district attorney race. She won a tough attorney general race. And then, of course, it got easier for the speaker—excuse me, me the Senate race and now running for president of the United States so women what does that mean easier for the Senate race why was it easier for did

Starting point is 00:35:11 she just step into it I can't remember I believe she just stepped into it is it did someone died in I think Finstein died and they just put her in temporarily and then she ran because you know she was the incumbent which was the Obama's I'm guessing I'm not I don't know this for a fact because I don't remember the sequence of events necessarily well if you if you recall Obama became senator when they took that Star Trek Deep Space Nine Seven of Nine lady and came up with the whole, my husband raped me.

Starting point is 00:35:51 Right, the scenario of the sex cult or whatever the hell it was. Yes, sex cult, whatever that was. Yes. Yeah. All right, here's the rest. Officially strong. Something about it. Personally, well, you know, personally a person of values and politically astute.

Starting point is 00:36:03 Let's talk about some of the things that you've written. a person of values and politically astute. So, again, we like to think that whether it's in the water or it's in the air or it's just in our tradition in the Bay Area, we're very proud of the positions we take and the friendships we develop and the respect we have for differences of opinion. What is she signaling here? Is this a San Francisco, like, Hoffman deal or what is the point? I have some clips that might explain some of it because Newsom is going after the homeless. Well, yeah, he's throwing them out. He's throwing into the Bay.

Starting point is 00:36:37 We don't even know where he's putting them. Throwing them into the Bay. He's got a ramp. into the bay. He's got a ramp. He's looking for 2028 as is two or three other, or as are two or three other of these Democrats, including Whitmer for president. And he, and I think Shapiro is probably one of them. And so he's going to try to clean up the state and he's got four years to do it. So he's starting with the homeless. Yeah, we can play these clips when you're done with your,

Starting point is 00:37:10 which you got to do it. No, no, no. Well, the only other thing is Kamala Harris ran against Sanchez. So it wasn't handed to her, but it was a landslide 68 to 30 something. Yeah, well that's because it's rigged. I hate to say that, but California elections are rigged.

Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. California, I've said this before, the states that, whether you have rigged election, you got Washington state. Nobody likes these people that are running Washington state, but they get in with big votes all the time because it's all mail-in ballots. So it's very easy to corrupt.

Starting point is 00:37:41 Everyone has been studied to death. Everybody knows mail-in ballots are no good. California also relies on them to an extent. Washington is a hundred percent. So a hundred percent mail-in ballots in Washington state. So they are, they've captured Washington state. Oregon is similar. California is similar. They did captured. It doesn't need to be that bad like it is in Washington. Minnesota is captured.

Starting point is 00:38:06 I've always felt that Massachusetts and Illinois for sure is totally corrupt. So let's just go back to Biden doing something unexpected that they may be expecting. And maybe this is, she, I didn't see the whole interview, so maybe she talked about Newsom. But if you've got Kamala Harris, all of a sudden being president, wouldn't that be a moment for Newsom to pop in and say, Hey, let me take it over, baby. How's he going to do that? Just by saying exactly that this is Democrat party. You can vote when you're 13.

Starting point is 00:38:39 You can just step in and say, Hey, let me take it over, baby. I think the, I think originally when Obama came up with the scheme to get rid of Biden, we have to, I'm going to assume that scenario is true. And then Biden screwed him by announcing that Kamala is going to be the candidate. And people always say the following, the analysis goes like this. Uh, well, you can't bring in Newsome, you can't bring in anybody because you've got a woman of color at the top of the ticket, and she's the next one in line, you have to give it to her.

Starting point is 00:39:09 And so you have to take that argument and say, well, how would Obama manage to get around this situation? Obama could do it. Obama could ordain anybody and come out, him and Michelle could come out and say this is the way it should be Yes, I come doesn't matter it could be a black guy could be a white guy could be any it doesn't matter We've lost Obama's listen if Kamala becomes president even for the next What is it the next? Four months we had our black female president.

Starting point is 00:39:46 That would be great. And she, and you yourself said she's lazy. She doesn't want to do anything. And then think about it. I was the first female, not just female, but black president. She is rich for the rest of her life, can go off, do her own thing. And then she could even say, you know, I've got two wars here.

Starting point is 00:40:09 I'm going to take care of stuff. By the way, no taxes on tips. And here's Newsom to run. I know I'm going off kilter here, but why not? I think it's premature for Newsom to be honest about it because he still has the California situation. This is why he's starting to clean up the place because it's hanging over his head. That sucks.

Starting point is 00:40:31 Like the sword of Damocles. That sucks. The homeless situation in California is out of control and there's no way you can run it. But four years from now when it's all cleaned up and he takes credit for it, it's a different story. So I don't think you can slip Newsom in at this point. You can slip somebody else in, but no.

Starting point is 00:40:50 They're stuck with this woman. Okay. All right, well, let's hear your Newsom clips. Well, here's Newsom going after the homeless and it's become somewhat controversial. Here's clip one. Two weeks ago, California Governor Gavin Newsom put out an executive order. He urged cities

Starting point is 00:41:06 and counties in the state to remove homeless encampments. This past week, he upped the pressure saying he would take state funding away from counties that didn't show, quote, demonstrable results. It's a move that puts the Democratic governor closer to conservatives on this issue than to the progressives in his own party. To break down the details and politics of this, I'm joined by reporter Anna Scott in Los Angeles. She covers housing and homelessness with the California Newsroom, which is a collaboration of NPR stations in the state. Hey, Anna.

Starting point is 00:41:35 Hey. Hey. Hey. So, Anna, the governor said that he would cut counties off from state funding if they didn't cooperate. Is this a real threat? Did he give any specifics on this? Oh my God. This is NPR, isn't it? How did they learn to talk like this?

Starting point is 00:41:52 Yeah, I think it's a real threat. Not a lot of specifics yet, but the state provides a lot of funding to cities and counties for all sorts of different efforts to fight homelessness. The Newsom administration has spent around $24 billion, in fact, on this for things like buying commercial buildings to turn into housing or funding new shelter beds, to name just two things of many. He didn't threaten to cut any particular funding stream yet from any specific place, but his office told me he's ready to redirect money away from any county that's not meeting milestones set by the state. And he did call out Los Angeles County specifically and said leaders here need to act with more

Starting point is 00:42:32 urgency on this issue. Question what county does is that favela spot you've got you've got picked out? Well it's San Francisco is San Francisco County. So just after that, I believe that would be in San Mateo County. So he could say, you know what, no money for you, here's a favela. Well, I don't think he's got the favela mentality, yet. You need to talk to your governor. You've got some good ideas. You need to talk to your governor. You've got some good ideas. He's...the idea of a favela there in South San Francisco is probably the best spot to do the experiment.

Starting point is 00:43:15 And of course the Hollywood sign in Los Angeles. And the Hollywood sign in Los Angeles, that whole area is ripe. Favela ready. It's favela ready. Nah, there's a show title. Write that one down. I will. Favela ready. Yeah, it's favela ready.

Starting point is 00:43:34 There's plenty of places in LA that are favela ready. Yeah. All right, part two. So, Anna, what exactly is Governor Newsom wanting counties to do that they're not already doing? Well, it's not completely clear other than get rid of more encampments. But the problem is people need places to go. And we're short on affordable housing.

Starting point is 00:43:52 We're short on shelter beds here in LA County. Now LA has made a lot of progress in recent years on adding beds and affordable housing units. But the problem is in spite of that progress, it's really not visible yet to most people who are walking around and looking at this terrible crisis on the streets. So then in that case, what would make a visible difference here? Just more housing for everyone? Yes, more housing. That's the simple answer because that's what is at the root of the crisis, a shortage of cheap places to live that has built up over decades.

Starting point is 00:44:25 Hmm, I'm waiting. This is not true. The drug crisis is part of the problem. They don't mention that. It's got nothing to do with housing. There's plenty of people and it's documented to an extreme of guys who say, go into here. This is a place for you to stay. I'd rather be on the street.

Starting point is 00:44:43 Yes, correct. And this happens constantly. Your friend down in Texas must run into this. Well, that's where he finds people. Because drug addicts, the main reason, according to Alan Graham, the reason from Community First Village, the main reason people become homeless is catastrophic loss of family or community.

Starting point is 00:45:06 And when you are on the streets, you usually fall into drugs or you're already in some kind of drug issue. And that's why they all congregate because then you have a community of druggies. And they look out for each other, you know, it's a whole thing. That is now your new community. So yes, and by the way, Newsom does have a plan, but I'm interested in your final clip on this first, unless you have something else. No, I have another clip. Now, like I said, California, Los Angeles in particular are making progress on that,

Starting point is 00:45:43 but it's a really big gap to close. And on top of that, the crisis is at such a magnitude that you also have to help all the people who are already on the streets get into the housing and stay there. And everybody who's out there probably needs a different intervention. So it becomes very hard to fix. Now the federal, state and local governments all share responsibility for different pieces of these fixes, but of course they can always point fingers at each other. Right. And Anna, just quickly, are there politics at play behind Newsom's most recent statements

Starting point is 00:46:16 here? Oh, yes, of course. He's a politician. I spoke with a long time Democratic political consultant about this. Newsom's been talked about as a possible future presidential candidate, but the homelessness crisis in California is a huge weakness for him. And so it makes sense that he's distancing himself from the responsibility a bit and saying publicly to local officials, look, the state's given you everything you need, money, support. Now you have to act. I've done all I can. But really, there's not a quick fix to this. Well, I'm disappointed now because I saw your clips come in, people should know, John and I don't talk in between shows,

Starting point is 00:46:53 we don't discuss what we're gonna do, he sends his clips, I don't listen to them. I look at the titles just to see what he has covered. So I see a three-parter on Newsome, I didn't clip in my Newsome stuff. Because he has covered. So I see a three-parter on Newsom. I didn't clip in my Newsom stuff because he has proposed the solution and I'm very disappointed, surprisingly not, in NPR. They didn't mention it. It is the Cares Court. Have you heard of this? Maybe. I have the PDF. I have the one-pager PDF here. Governor Newsom's new plan to get Californians in crisis off the streets and into housing, treatment and care. It is the Community Assistance Recovery and Empowerment Court,

Starting point is 00:47:35 CARE Court, a new framework to get people with mental health and substance use disorders, the support and care they need. So what happens is they take you to court. I'm sure there's a reason why it's called court. And then they put it's a court. Yes. And then they so care court connects connects. This is great. Care court connects a person struggling with untreated mental illness and often also substance use challenges with a court ordered care plan for up to 24 months. So you have its jail for druggies. Each plan is managed by a care team in the community and can include clinically prescribed individual interventions i.e. our drugs,

Starting point is 00:48:27 with special, with several support services, medication, and a housing plan. The client-centered approach of these convicts also includes a public defender and supporter, what is it, support, like pom poms? Yay, go you. To help make self-directed care decisions in addition to their full clinical team. So he's going to rouse them,

Starting point is 00:48:57 and by the way, this is a $14 billion multi-year investment that will also provide 55,000 new housing units and treatment slots. Well, 55,000 is not enough. But they have slots. They just put you in the wall in a slot in the wall. Slots. And a more than 10 billion dollar annual investment in community behavioral health services. Dude, bonanza. The governor's comprehensive approach combines a focus on bridge housing under the bridge i guess to quickly rehouse unsheltered individuals with behavioral health issues all while more new units come online while also transforming medical to provide more behavioral

Starting point is 00:49:42 health services to people struggling the most so he's's created a court. You get rousted, you go to court, you're a druggy, you got problems, take our meds, sleep here. Or else. Or else. Yes. I'm surprised the MPR didn't catch on to that. That's odd. I am too, now that you mention it. Because he has a solution. It's a kind of a weird one. It's a totalitarian solution. There you go. Yes, totalitarian.

Starting point is 00:50:13 By every definition. Yes. Yeah, you go into court. And it's done by edict, if you haven't noticed. They mentioned that it's all executive orders. So there's no legislature involved or anybody, any input whatsoever. This is just a totalitarian mechanism that he put in place and the key to it is this phony baloney kangaroo court, which is exactly what it is.

Starting point is 00:50:37 Yep. There you go. Yeah. Very good for him. Well, and I think it's a model for all of America. Well, that's the point he's going to try to make when he runs for president. Well, and I think it's a model for all of America Well, that's what these good. That's the point He's gonna try to make when he runs for president. The problem is he still has that he still is Got that greasy kind of slick and he's with that gravelly voice. He's got some issues with his presentations Especially when you compare them to the Jewish Obama

Starting point is 00:51:02 the Shapiro Shapiro Shapiro sounds just like Obama. He's got the cadence. He's got the better speeches. He's a much more dynamic speaker than Newsom. Newsom's not very good compared. Doesn't matter. You know, doesn't matter. People just vote what they're told to vote.

Starting point is 00:51:20 Well, it doesn't matter because they're going to just choose somebody, if you're going to say that. But they're going to choose somebody. They're going to choose Shapiro. I don't think America's ready for a Jew president. I really don't. Think about it. I don't think that, I don't really believe that. I don't think any, I mean, there's probably a few people that wouldn't

Starting point is 00:51:43 appreciate it, but the Nazis, I think Nazis in general nobody cares that much about especially a guy like that guy He's pretty neutral Coming out talking about a screamer. He goes all off the off the rail He's like Dean scream almost No, yes, yes Oh Man, I thought I had a Dean scream clip of him. Yes. Yes. Oh man, I thought I had a Dean Scream clip of him. Yes.

Starting point is 00:52:08 He was going off the rails. I didn't clip it crap. Yeah, because it didn't matter because he's no longer in the running. Oh yeah, his voice is all skipping and stuff. Yeah. Maybe I can find it. No, I don't think he's the right guy. Well, the other thing that you notice on these networks that say that Trump is whatever that

Starting point is 00:52:32 word was we used earlier, freaked out about something or other, which he's not. Oh, here it is. Here it is, Joe. Listen to this. Hold on. In America, where no matter what you look like, where you come from, who you love or who you pray to, that this will be a place for you. And listen to the beginning of the speech.

Starting point is 00:52:55 And are you ready to look the next president of the United States in the eye and say, hello, madam president. Are you ready to? Run, run! A little overdone. Well, that's a good example. I have to say, I'll give you points for that. Okay.

Starting point is 00:53:14 Because that's not his nuts. All right. So the other thing is they're condemning Trump for not doing enough rallies. And, uh, Oh really? Not enough rallies. I thought he was doing all kinds of rallies. Well, they claim he's not doing as many as he could. And of course, this is just a kibitzing. He has, he said in his press conference, he gave an hour press conference, which is reasonably good amount of time,

Starting point is 00:53:41 since nobody else is doing them. And he says, look, I'm not going to do a lot of work until we, until the convention is over. And I think he's smart in that regard because the convention will change the dynamics of everything. He has to see what happens. Well, he's throwing out there this, I want three debates and, uh, Kamala is not, not biting. She's like one debate. Hey, actually, I have a clip here.

Starting point is 00:54:03 Vice president Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump take their campaigns to Western states as they also prepare to meet face to face in their first presidential candidates debate. I'm glad that he's finally agreed to a debate on September 10th, I'm looking forward to it and hope he sells out. Trump called for three debates.

Starting point is 00:54:21 I think it's very important that we have them, I hope she agrees to them, September 4th, September 10th, September 25th. Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, after stops in Michigan and Wisconsin, are in Arizona Friday, a key stop in a multi-day battleground state blitz. Both sides are heavily courting the Latino vote

Starting point is 00:54:41 in the final three months of the campaign. Harris on Friday picked up the first ever presidential endorsement of the oldest Latino civil rights organization in the US. The League of United Latin American Citizens is expected to join Harris for a rally this weekend in Nevada. Trump traveled to Montana for a fundraiser and to campaign for a Senate candidate. He's insisted he has not adjusted his campaign since Harris became the Democratic nominee. I haven't recalibrated strategy at all. It's the same policies, open borders, weak on crime. She's, I think she's worse than

Starting point is 00:55:14 Biden. While Harris has surged in recent polls, the Trump campaign has dismissed it as a honeymoon moment. Both the Trump Vance ticket and the Harris-Walls ticket are ramping up appearances in the handful of battleground states, building momentum for a high stakes debate in September. That could be a make or break moment for either campaign. Well, she's only planning on doing one from what I can tell. She has not responded. But we'll see about that. My team is

Starting point is 00:55:43 working on an interview. Yeah, but, but, but, but, but. Yeah, you're right. Trump is probably just sitting backs like crazy. Joe could come out jacked up. Joe could return, you know, Jill now doing the injections herself. She doesn't trust anybody. Maybe Hunter. Hey dad, I got some good stuff.

Starting point is 00:55:59 And he knows how to do it. You know, did I read somewhere that that that wacky woman from the secret service who resigned, that she had like a partial DNA hit on the Coke in the White House and she obfuscated it? She wanted the evidence destroyed. Well, clearly, clearly. Yes, this is, yes, this has been discussed in what you just said, that they had a partial DNA hit and she wanted the evidence destroyed and they wouldn't do it because it was a violation of some process and it never got destroyed.

Starting point is 00:56:36 That's what she was angling for. But we don't know who the partial DNA hit was. They ended the investigation. They could do that. So that's what she did. So meanwhile, as if it never happened, you know, there was an assassination attempt. And man, if you look at Instagram, I looked at my daughter's on Instagram. That's the only way I can keep up with what she's doing.

Starting point is 00:56:57 She doesn't tell me everything. So I got to go look. What are you doing? She's going into the jungle again. She's doing another reality show. I think it's like girls in the jungle. So it's all these kind of cute girls and they throw them in the jungle. Oh God, it's like naked and afraid.

Starting point is 00:57:16 Yeah, well. And so I'm scrolling around and I see people posting things like, it was shrapnel. He didn't get assassinated. There was no assassination attempt. There was just some shrapnel. Shrapnel from what? Exactly. I mean, if you ever watch the clip of him getting shot, the teleprompter, which is where they say the shrapnel came from,

Starting point is 00:57:46 was intact. The teleprompter was not hit. I'm just saying people have so... It's as if it never happened. I mean, it was an amazing moment in American political history. It's like, we're just back to calling him Needle Dick and else. We just know good, get this guy crazy, weird, weird Vance, weird Trump, blah, as if it never had, no one is disturbed by it. And I have a couple of clips here. This is, so now we have new body cam footage, which really shows us nothing. But the secret service, body cam footage. It does.

Starting point is 00:58:25 Told them they need to post the guys over here. I told them that the secret service, I told them that Tuesday. I told them to post the guys over here. What? I thought you guys were on the roof. No, we're inside. I told them to post the guys over here. I wasn't even concerned about it because I thought someone was on the roof.

Starting point is 00:58:44 I thought that's how we, they kind of had to do it. I thought you guys were on the roof. I thought you guys were on the roof. I thought you guys were on the roof. I thought you guys were on the roof. No, we're inside. I told them to post the f***ing guys over here. I wasn't even concerned about it because I thought someone was on the roof. I thought that's how we... I was like, how the hell can you lose a guy walking back and wait until you get your ass kicked? I talked to the Secret Service guys, they're like, yeah, no problem, we're going to post guys over here. So to put it into context, Ryan, what we're listening there is this local law enforcement officer, again, just approximately 10 minutes after somebody fired or Thomas Matthew Crooks

Starting point is 00:59:04 fired eight rounds at Donald Trump, saying, look, I told the Secret Service we needed people back here because he's standing behind the building or the buildings where the shots were fired from. And then he says, I told the Secret Service that on Tuesday, presumably there was a site walkthrough. Obviously, the shooting happened on a Saturday, July 13th. So that was at least several days beforehand. So there's, you know, a new analysis. Okay, but everything is secret service, secret service. I just want to revisit briefly

Starting point is 00:59:34 the theory that we've discussed. This was a very typical FBI six-week cycle. We've been on this for over a decade and it comes and goes but when it's on the six-week cycle the FBI some typically some poor Weak-minded brother is singing al-aqbar online and they they sigh up in for a couple of months Hey, man, you should go blow something up And then the guy goes out there just like crooks had a phony baloney detonator with bombs. We don't even know if the bombs actually worked because we've heard nothing more about them. That's when the van was whisked away or was it in his car? We don't know. There's some circumstantial evidence

Starting point is 01:00:16 of FBI cell phones and near the FBI, whatever it is, a lot FBI stuff and it's a very typical FBI setup It's like make it look like someone was gonna try and kill the president with bombs We even had the mainstream almost as if they were as if someone Triggered it and said the wrong thing or they were ready for it. Oh Trump falls down afraid of loud noises And but then the kid went rogue and he brought a rifle and he took some shots So lo and behold, so this is our six-week cycle theory We've we've heard this from people who are in the know lo and behold. I'm really from waters to the pool boy. Here we go Tim pool had an FBI former FBI

Starting point is 01:01:02 agent on his show Often called a whistleblower. I don't know show often called a whistleblower. I don't know if he's a whistleblower, but he, he, everybody, everybody's a whistleblower. I know, I know. But when you tell the truth, you're a whistleblower and he lays out the six week cycle. Exactly. When the FBI charts their progress, they're looking for a thing that are called stats. This is something that all law enforcement, you know, this is like quotas, if you will. And so we need to have stats that say, I have X number of cases in this field and I have X number of arrests in this type of category.

Starting point is 01:01:36 We're going after MS-13, we're going after organized crime, blah, blah, blah. We're doing these counterintelligence investigations. They have a thing that's called a disruption, which means the plot basically got foiled, and they have a thing that's called a dismantlement, which means that this network was taken apart. And you get more points for a dismantlement than you do for a disruption, if my memory serves it, maybe backwards, but I think it's that. So the thing is, is these guys are literally going for gold stars on a board, and you think, okay, well, would they, you know, sacrifice public safety to do this? If they thought they can get away with it safely, they will. And the second thing is the oldest reason that's ever existed, it's greed. The senior executive

Starting point is 01:02:09 service in all federal governments, but definitely in the FBI that I was able to experience, they get paid a five-figure bonus. It's like between 30 and 50, maybe $60,000 if they hit all their metrics. So they are incentivized to get arrests in certain categories. They're incentivized to do these sort of things. Okay, sounds pretty much like the six-week cycle. We always thought it was for the budget so they can justify the budget. Now it turns out, and I'm going to take this guy at his word, that it's an individual star collection thing. You get more money if you can disrupt something. And then remember we had that kind of rogue Iran thing or Iran the Iranian one to take him out Remember that yeah, well listen to this part. Vice President Kamala Harris and former sorry

Starting point is 01:02:59 I'm so bad today. Here we go The FBI went so hard on January 6th that they overdid the number of hours that they're allowed to assign to domestic terrorism because they have to spread themselves to international terrorism and domestic terrorism. They massively overdid it for DT, which is the abbreviation. They did it so badly that they sent out section chiefs from headquarters to all the field offices regionally and said, listen, we need you to go through all of your domestic terrorism cases and find connections to international terrorism so we can recategorize your hours. Imagine like an attorney bills hours, the FBI assigns the work of an agent against certain

Starting point is 01:03:31 types of categories of cases. So they had too many what are called 266 cases, those are the domestic terror. They needed more 415 cases. And in order to do that, they were like, hey, did you find a dude who is a white supremacist but he was in a chat room somewhere that later on an al-Qaeda guy went into because we can tie them together and make this a 415 instead of a 266. It's the dumbest thing possible. But when you understand we're talking about bureaucracy here, here's the scariest part

Starting point is 01:03:54 for me. This has been going on for 20 years. Yeah. So that takes us right back to this. The FBI arresting a Pakistani national in connection with an alleged plot to assassinate former president Donald Trump. There you go.

Starting point is 01:04:10 They wanted a 415, so they just throw that in. Good to go. I completely believe this. Well, I think we both do. I think this has been believed by us in one form or another. Now, what we did, the missing information is the bonus. Yes. Now we know.

Starting point is 01:04:29 Which is more impetus than just the budget. It's even better. It's even better. Because you get personal benefits. You don't just, I'm doing it for the good of the agency. Yeah. So it makes it even more, it makes even more sense if you bring that into play. Yes, yes, yes, exactly. Yeah, the Pakistani, yeah, that's a good one. Sure, sure.

Starting point is 01:04:53 Wow. Everybody's all in on this. Yeah, meanwhile, everyone is all yelling about crowd sizes and AI and Cabinless. She's hiring people, $250 to sit in the crowd. Yeah, duh. Actually, she's, she's hiring people $250 to sit in the crowd yet. Duh. That's just $15 an hour. Oh,

Starting point is 01:05:11 yeah, that's, that's, whether that's that's another thing. That's all you read. Probably true. That's all you read on X news social. It's all about that. It's just, it's boring. Here's Elon Musk.

Starting point is 01:05:23 He keeps, because I follow him, he keeps posting, X is the number one news app, okay. Yeah, he's been pushing that idea. Yeah. Now here's the, while we're on this FBI stuff, there is a couple of kind of parallel weirdnesses going on. We gotta stop using the word weird. We have to stop that.

Starting point is 01:05:44 We're using it too much. I told you. I called you out. I know, I'm glad you did, but you just, yeah. I know, it's bad. It's bad. It's bad, but it's bad. It's one of those bad, I don't like it.

Starting point is 01:05:57 We've been influenced by Tim Waltz. How bad are we? Which, according to- So they're going after, for some reason, Scott Ritter, yeah, the FBI visited him and Tulsi Gabbard. She's on that, that fly checker out list or something. She's irked about it. Yeah, I can imagine. But what's interesting is that two of them have both discussed this.

Starting point is 01:06:23 Scott Ritter discussing it everywhere he can, but the best discussion comes off of RT, which he works for. And I want to play these two clips and then play Tulsi's clips. And then see if you can find the commonality, the commonality between what they both say. The FBI and the police have raided the New York home of former US Marine Corps intelligence officer

Starting point is 01:06:49 and current RT contributor, Scott Ritter. He addressed his followers on social media platforms, explaining that the FBI has concerns over his link with RT and Russian media outlets, but... FBI has executed a search warrant on my home the search warrant was based upon what they deemed to be probable cause that I am in violation of the foreign agent registrations act it worked for RT of course and they executed a search warrant looking for electronic devices, my computers, my cell phone, things of that nature.

Starting point is 01:07:29 Based upon their questions, it appears that they are primarily concerned about my relationship with RT and Sputnik. Scott himself was not detained in the raid, which is the latest in a string of actions targeting the former UN weapons inspector. Back in June, the US State Department seized his passport, taking him off a plane as he traveled to attend the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum. It comes as the threat of assassination has been hanging over Mr. Ritter for quite some time after he was added to a notorious Ukrainian kill list for his views on the conflict. Scott says that alternative stance, the US government has effectively declared war on him. Okay, so far it just sounds like harassment. Well, the fact that they took him off of a plane.

Starting point is 01:08:19 Oh, I didn't know that part. I didn't know that part either. I didn't know anything about the kill list. So this is, RT's actually giving us better reporting Yeah, so what's the surprise? shocker Here's the second part of this. This is absurd in the extreme this this raid on my home was designed to have a chilling effect I'm to make me think twice about speaking out, about writing, about doing podcasts. And as I told the FBI, and I'll tell you now, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that

Starting point is 01:08:51 I'll back down because I'm doing nothing wrong. Today, the United States government declared war on me. They declared war on my ability to write, my ability to speak, my ability to interact with the American people and indeed with a broader international audience. So be it. We're at war. It's not a war I plan on losing. Scott Ritter, well, another RT contributor, former Senate aide to Joe Biden, Tara Reid has repeatedly stated she's been harassed by the FBI too and says there's an ongoing witch hunt for Americans who hold a different point of view.

Starting point is 01:09:25 He spoke out against the war in Iraq and revealed that the government lied, the US government lied about the weapons of mass destruction. He spoke out, George Galloway famously spoke out, and he was a whistleblower, he has been a whistleblower. And then, you know, he was put in prison for charges that he was, you know, convicted of. And he did his time, he's served his sentence. So I don't think it's related to that sentencing at all. I think, again, it's just a pattern of what you're seeing in the United States, which is the surveillance state and authoritative government government, that we have the illusion of free speech, we have that illusion of a right to travel, but in reality, it's only allowed if we say what the United States wants people to say.

Starting point is 01:10:16 Otherwise, you're at risk. Many say that unfortunately the intelligence cabal has really taken over the United States government. And I think you have seen that pretty clearly just in the recent events around the 2024 election. Well, yes. No surprise to us. As an aside, someone mentioned in the troll room that we were on a weird kick previously around Obama time and I went to bingit.io? Holy crap. We would say the word weird eight, nine, ten times an episode. It's terrible. It really is. It's bad.

Starting point is 01:10:57 Okay. So yes, the intelligence community runs the country. Duh. All right. Yeah. Hello. Gotcha. Yes? runs the country. Duh! All right. Yeah. Hello. Gotcha. Yes? They have not contributed much to the show recently. It's really annoying. Well, where are those AOL.com addresses people? Come on, step it up. So we have Tulsi on watch list and here she's off the deep end here, but this interesting that the fact that it seems to me that she should be happy that there's three air marshals on every flight she takes. You feel like

Starting point is 01:11:32 a lot of safety around you, you know what I mean? So what exactly did Tulsi Gabbard do? Oh is this Frau Ingram? I'm. I should have warned you Because everything is traced back to her Tulsi's appearance on Frow's show Frows show After she criticized the Biden administration Right here on the angle, whatever. I haven't watched her in a while, but this is very, that's very strange. It's no different. It's always better.

Starting point is 01:12:09 You know, this isn't a side, I've mentioned this on the show once before. She used to have a radio show. Yes. I think maybe she still does. No, I don't think so, but she had a radio, a syndicated radio show, and it was a later show. It wasn't like during the day,

Starting point is 01:12:23 it wasn't done drive time or anything. So I tune into it every so often by accident as I'm going through the channels, if it was later. And I'd hear it and I always swore, it sounded like a guy, she sounds like a male on the radio. For some reason, she just sounds like a male tenor, not a guy with a baritone voice, but she sounds male-ish. And I was always stunned by that. Let's return. See, our foreign policy decisions are being

Starting point is 01:12:52 made by unelected people in the military industrial complex who are profiting from us being in a constant state of war and the national security state that has more power to undermine our freedoms and liberties when we are in a state of war. Kamala Harris does not have the strength to stand up to the military industrial complex. Okay that's wild. Joining me now Tulsi Gabbard former U.S. Congresswoman, Fox News contributor. Tulsi, now you serve this country in uniform even getting deployed to Iraq. Thank you for going, unlike Tim Walz. And now you're being surveilled. I mean, it's a form of surveillance, or hassling, and intrusion upon your freedom to move by

Starting point is 01:13:34 the government. What is this? I mean, I didn't believe it really when I first heard about it. I said, oh, that can't be. But how does this make you feel? Laura, this is a clear act of political retaliation. There's no other way to put it. You laid out the sequence of events the very next day after my conversation with you on

Starting point is 01:13:53 the air warning the American people about how dangerous a Kamala Harris presidency would be. I was placed on this domestic terror watch list, which is called the Quiet Skies list under the Department of Homeland Security. The clear pain and real visceral hurt that comes from this is, as you mentioned, like many Americans, I enlisted because of the terrorist attacks on 9-11 to go after the Islamist terrorists who attacked us on that day and to now have my own government now turn around and put me on a domestic terror watch list, it hits to the core and is the ultimate sense of betrayal.

Starting point is 01:14:35 Okay. Yes, it is a betrayal. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of an amusing betrayal. I have nothing to add to that. I have noticed just one of those aside things. Tulsi does not look good on her if they shoot her from the left side. Have you noticed this?

Starting point is 01:14:58 She does have angles that make her look better. Yeah, that straight front on is good and on her, let me see, her right side, the left side makes her look very old and kind of crackly and then you know that blonde. Her left specifically? Yes. Her left side, not looking at her left. No, her left side specifically. And that's also the side with the blonde lock. Oh. Yeah. Tell them to look at it. Be on the lookout for it.

Starting point is 01:15:33 Once you see it, you can't unsee it. Yeah, I probably have to look at it. Okay, two. We look at why they are doing this. It has a chilling effect. It sends a warning both to me and to anyone else who even thinks about daring to criticize our own government, which is a guaranteed protected right under the First Amendment, that we will be subject to a violation of our Fourth Amendment

Starting point is 01:15:57 right to privacy through this kind of surveillance. And that's the biggest stress that's been caused by this entire situation, Laura, is now forever. I will always be looking over my shoulder wondering if and how our government in any of these different agencies is surveilling me, watching me. Are they reading my text messages? Are they listening to my phone calls? Yeah, I was going to say yes, yes and yes. That's what I would guess at least. Now, in a letter from whistleblower attorney Tristan Levitt, he writes that the special mission coverage in Ms. Gabbard's case reportedly involves two explosive detection canine teams, one transportation security analyst and explosives, one plane close TSA supervisor, and three federal air

Starting point is 01:16:41 marshals on every flight Ms. Gabbard boards. Well, do they get her first class seating? I just find the whole thing peculiar, but did you notice the commonality with the Scott Ritter clip? Airplane. Using the term chilling. Oh. Which you actually noticed when he said it. Yeah. Chilling.

Starting point is 01:17:11 Chilling effect. She says it right at the beginning of that clip. And I listened to the Ritter clip and he said, this is like code. Hmm. You saw they're both, let me hear Tulsi again say chilling. We look at why they are doing this. It has a chilling effect. Did Ritter say that in his first or second clip? I don't remember.

Starting point is 01:17:32 I don't remember what he said, but he said it at a point where you picked up on it. I was like, probably the second ship. It's not just chilling, it's chilling effect. It's exactly the same wordage. Which is like, well, okay, I guess it does, but it just seems like a coincidence that of all the people that are being, well, hold on a sec. They are both military. So DIA CIA. So it could be the DIA code for chilling, see, chilling effect.

Starting point is 01:18:14 Well I don't know what to make of it, but I just, I did notice it and it was clear as day and it was the exact same coded language, which always, especially from these two events, which are nowhere near each other, but they're using the same coded language. So this is bothering me. Okay, final clip for Tulsi. Literally like the Soviet Union, China today, North Korea, any totalitarian regime, but Donald Trump is a totalitarian, right? He's the dictator and waiting. Okay

Starting point is 01:18:46 Yeah, this is just and this is what what we know about and we know about it because of these brave whistleblowers from the Air Marshal Service who are coming forward What I'm questioning is what are the things that are happening in our government that I don't know about how long have they been? Surveilling me. This is just the recent occurrence. I would not be surprised to know that there are other government agencies who are also being weaponized against political opponents, those who dare to challenge this regime of the Biden Harris administration. And that that's really what it comes down to and why they have to be stopped. They are guaranteed the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Starting point is 01:19:27 I cannot be free. And you pointed to this. Yes, exactly. I cannot be free so long as my government is breathing down my neck and watching my every move. I disagree with her here. I do not think that these agencies or these divisions, and I'm specifically looking at the military industrial base or the intelligence community,

Starting point is 01:19:52 they're not all in on anybody except themselves. And as is witnessed by the heavily military industrial base funded APAC. It's been one of the most expensive primaries in history. AIPAC spent 8.5 million dollars for Wesley Bell's campaign to defeat Missouri representative Cory Bush. She's been a member of the progressive congressional group, the Squad, and a target of AIPAC because of her critical stance on Israel's war on Gaza since October 7. Cori Bush is the second member of the squad who has been unseated in a similar AIPAC strategy

Starting point is 01:20:30 in the primaries this year. Democratic representative from New York, Jamal Bowman, was defeated by pro-Israeli centrist George Ladimer. AIPAC put nearly $15 million into Ladimer's campaign trail. The results showcase the political and economic power of AIPAC and deep divisions among Democrats over Israel's onslaught on the besieged strip. But it's not only Democrats who are being targeted. A Republican representative from Virginia, Bob Good, has lost his seat against John McGuire,

Starting point is 01:21:01 who was endorsed by the Republican-Jewish coalition. The group attacked Congressman Good after his vote against financial aid to Israel. AIPAC says these victories are, and I quote, further proof that being pro-Israel is good policy and good politics on both sides of the aisle. Meanwhile, unsated Congress members and their supporters slam AIPAC for spending millions of dollars, and I quote called again to brainwash voters. Now wait wait the Republican Jewish Alliance is that what she said? What is it three guys?

Starting point is 01:21:35 Let me listen what you well this is TRT so let me hear what she said. Meanwhile, unsaid Congress members and their supporters slam AIPAC for spending millions of dollars. And I called again to brainwash voters. I don't know where she said that. I don't think. You know, you're just back for the... But the whole, the whole point is that thing is funded by the, by

Starting point is 01:21:56 the military industrial base. Sure. You know, it's, it's, and, you know, the Jews are just basically in it just, you know, as a sideline, because look at what they're doing. Look at how they're ramping up Iran. And I was listening to a couple other podcasts about Iran. I don't think Iran's gonna do anything.

Starting point is 01:22:15 I think they're just gonna sit back. They're not gonna retaliate. I think they killed the guy themselves. Yeah, oh yeah. He was annoying. He's hanging out, He's over there. It's they don't like the, the, uh, the, uh, Shia anyway. You know, there is that thing we brought it up in the last show that there's difference in the religions.

Starting point is 01:22:36 And it's better to have Israel waiting. I mean, that's terror. You know, you're waiting, like, do I have to go into my bunker? Do I have to get into my bomb shelter? Meanwhile, the USA has to spend millions of dollars in fuel and efforts to keep all these ships going around and around. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:22:54 Yeah, no, it's a horrible situation. No, it's a great situation. Lots of money, lots of money. Back to Tulsi Gabbard and the fact that she probably is not being targeted by intelligence. She's being targeted though, by the Democrat, I've said this before, I'll say it again, the Democrat party is a cult.

Starting point is 01:23:15 She quit the cult. She quit the cult and became kind of an independent Republican type. And they're going after for that reason. And that's the only thing that's going on, is that. Okay. You quit the party. This happened to anyone who's ever been a Democrat. It lasts for about a decade.

Starting point is 01:23:34 Well, have they been targeting you since you quit the Democrat party? That was in 1979. Oh, so you're done. You're out now. Oh, it's been done for years. I mean, I've been long. You've been deprogrammed. You're good. It's like, who cares about that guy? I've been out of that. Yeah. But it's a cult. And so when you quit a cult,

Starting point is 01:23:52 they always go after you right away and they keep hounding you. So you either come back into the cult or then you just, you know, it takes forever though. So I think that's what they're doing to her., freaking her out. So we just put another three and a half billion for Israel to spend on US weapons, according to CNN. We're positioning ships, big beautiful ships. It's great. Just keep it rolling for a little bit.

Starting point is 01:24:20 And then we have this, this was very odd, this story. Well, here's the setup, 30 seconds. Senior EU officials have joined a growing chorus of condemnation after an Israeli airstrike on a school compound killed dozens in Gaza City. The EU's top diplomat, Joseph Varell, expressed his horror at the attack, which Gazan officials say killed more than 90 people

Starting point is 01:24:43 sheltering in the school. Egypt and Qatar are demanding an urgent investigation, and the U.S. has said it's quote, deeply concerned about the strike. Israel has repeatedly claimed that Hamas uses schools as cover in the wake of the October 7th terror attacks. So the way they make it sound and I've could have clipped in 20 of these. The way that they can- I have the NPR version if you want to play it before you analyze it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do want to hear that. Where is it?

Starting point is 01:25:10 Under Israel. Got it. Hit it. Vice President Harris, ahead of a campaign rally in Las Vegas tonight, said once again that there have been too many civilian casualties in the Israel-Hamas war. Israel has a right to go after the terrorists that are Hamas, but as I have said many, many times, they also have, I believe, an important responsibility to avoid civilian casualties. The school was being used as a shelter for Palestinians displaced by the war in an area

Starting point is 01:25:40 where people have been displaced since the war started in October. The Israeli military says they were targeting a Hamas command center within the school. The attack came early this morning when many people were praying in an area used as a mosque. And then you have the 14-second version, which is the shortest of them all, on PBS, which is called Last Israeli Strike. An Israeli airstrike in Gaza hit a school today killing at least 80 people. The strike happened during morning prayers according to witnesses. Israeli defense forces say Hamas militants were operating out of the school. Hamas disputes the claim. Okay, so all

Starting point is 01:26:18 the other reports I heard was according to the Hamas medical information source, in addition to that, when they say school, school, school, it was a Saturday. I looked it up. There's not a lot of kids who go to school in the Muslim faith on Saturday, but they kind of make it sound like they killed kids. They certainly started that way. And I think they did kill some senior dude, didn't they? It's kind of omitted from the reports.

Starting point is 01:26:48 I thought that senior dude that was killed was in some other operation. Could be. But this is now being used as a wedge. This is one of these examples where- I'm sorry. This is a spokes hole from the US State Department. This is one of these examples where the law of unintended consequences in war creates some just disastrous consequences. As the White House said today, although we understand and recognize that Israel needs to target terrorists, that they're deeply concerned, and that Israel needs to take more precautions to protect civilians. From the American point of view, what they're using this for, hopefully, is to give some concern, and that Israel needs to take more precautions to protect civilians.

Starting point is 01:27:25 From the American point of view, what they're using this for, hopefully, is to give some more momentum for the ceasefire hostage deal, that it kind of underscores the urgency. It's kind of a now or never time, which is why we're hoping to have a kind of diplomatic train of representatives from the United States with this August 15th date set for this week to finally bring the table the parties to the table and reach agreement. In a very sad and tragic way today's event gives the United States additional leverage and pressure because while there is this tragedy that took place this morning in Gaza there's another disaster looming on their

Starting point is 01:28:03 northern border with Hezbollah. The Israel understands that they need the United States to back them up right now while they're standing and bracing for retaliatory attacks on both Iran and Hezbollah. They're heavily dependent on the United States for weapons and other assets, intelligence. So what in the best case scenario this morning's event can do is to create some kind of momentum and incentive for the United States to say to Israel, look, we need some concessions from you to reach that ceasefire in Gaza. You need us more, in fact, than we need you at this point. And Netanyahu, it's time to seal the deal. Okay, working a deal would look good for Kamala.

Starting point is 01:28:44 Okay, working a deal would look good for Kamala. That's from the State Department, so I'll take that as some genuine information. But still, we got to keep the ships in the region. Can't be giving up on that. Speaking of… Yes? I wanted to talk about Ukraine before we... Oh, goodness. ...get about that.

Starting point is 01:29:10 Mainly because of the Ukraine going into Russia, and I have the three clips. Yeah, so they say. Well, you know, maybe it's true, maybe it's not. I'm suspicious, yeah. But I have the three clips. One is the newest Ukraine into Russia NPR clips 55 seconds Oh Yes newest yeah got it Ukrainian president Zelensky is praising his country's troops for their incursion into Western Russia Which caught the Russian military by surprise as in peers Greg Myrie reports

Starting point is 01:29:41 These were Zelensky's most explicit remarks so far on Ukraine's ongoing offensive. In his nightly video address, President Zelensky said he'd receive updates on the operation to, quote, push the war into the aggressor's territory. He went on to say that the offensive is exactly the kind of pressure that's needed, pressure on the aggressor. Ukrainian officials have been tight-lipped about the offensive that began with Tuesday's surge into Russia's Kursk region. But some information is starting to emerge. Ukrainian troops are beginning to post on social media from inside Russia. They show themselves tearing down

Starting point is 01:30:20 Russian flags and standing in front of road signs to indicate they've entered a village or town. Okay. Now I've, I've read reports, everything from Putin is freaked out. He's rushing around state of emergency in Moscow. And then I see reports of him going, well, there's something going on. We got to take care of that. I'm sorry. Also some reports about, I don't have the guy's name and I,

Starting point is 01:30:47 and I feel bad about it, but there's some general that has been running things, this Ukraine thing and they're trying to get rid of them. On the Ukraine side or the Russian side? No, no, on the Russian side. Oh, typical Russian way of getting rid of somebody. Yeah. So I have two analysis clips. There's Ukraine analysis one and two. Let's just play these and then we can talk about it. Olga Robinson there. Well, we can bring in Peter Dickinson now. He is editor of Ukraine

Starting point is 01:31:16 Alert at the Atlantic Council Think Tank. Peter is joining us this evening from Kiev. Very good to have you with us, Peter, once again. And so I have to say we've not been hearing that much from Ukrainian authorities specifically about this. I did see one comment from one Ukrainian MP, of course, I'm sure who you're very familiar with, Alexei Kontcharenko, who told the BBC that Ukraine was trying to take back military initiative here. What do you make of what is happening? Well, you're absolutely right.

Starting point is 01:31:44 The Ukrainian authorities have been very tight-lipped about this whole affair. They've said very little. President Zelensky has alluded to it in some of his recent comments, but nothing specific and certainly nothing that would give a clear indication of what Ukraine's ultimate intentions are. And that fits with a broader pattern of surprise. ultimate intentions are. And that fits with a broader pattern of surprise. The Ukrainians managed to plan this operation. It seems to be a fairly sophisticated and complex military offensive,

Starting point is 01:32:13 and prepare it and plan it over presumably an extended period without anybody being aware of these preparations. So certainly the Russians were taken by surprise. It would seem that Ukraine's Western partners were taken by surprise. And frankly speaking, most people in Kiev here were also taken by surprise. So they seem to have achieved quite a remarkable success given the openness of the battlefield these days, the sort of ubiquity of drones and the sense, certainly on the battlefield in East and South

Starting point is 01:32:45 Ukraine, that there is no real opportunity for secrecy. Here, Ukraine has shown that they can still have, they can still spring a surprise. Valery Garisimov, who replaced Nikolai Makarov and currently serves as the commander of all Russian forces in Ukraine, considered one of the most powerful men in Russia and one of three people to hold access to Russia's nuclear weapons. That's the guy you're talking about. Could be.

Starting point is 01:33:16 Meanwhile, this report from the BBC is kind of weird. Like it kind of confirms your... You say kooky instead of weird. Did I say weird again? You say kooky instead of weird Did I say weird again said literally said weird? Flag on I wish you know, I I'm not as good as you as turning this stuff off But you have to keep hounding me I will trust me Kooky.

Starting point is 01:33:49 Maybe that, you know, what really gets to me, to my, you gets that, you had that submarine sound honking sound. Okay. Put it at the ready and just honk me when I do it. There you go. Okay. All right. It's at the ready. Yeah. And that, of course, just annoys our listeners and producers because it's like, why are these

Starting point is 01:34:12 guys so upset? Why are these guys preoccupied with what they say? Yeah. Well, it's a thing. It's just a thing. We do this because we do, it's part of our schtick. Here we go, part two. Well, talking about that surprise, I mean, we did also hear that Washington was reportedly

Starting point is 01:34:30 surprised by this. And you know, I was at the NATO summit just a few weeks ago there in Washington, DC, and there was this continued conversation about using longer range missiles to strike military targets deeper within Russia. And many of the Baltic leaders that I spoke to all for it. Washington didn't back it at that stage. So I just wonder what do you think some of these Western military partners will be making of what we're seeing? Well I think that's one of the big questions of this operation and perhaps also one of the reasons behind this operation. Again

Starting point is 01:35:01 you're quite right to say that there has been a lot of resistance from Ukraine's partners, particularly the US and particularly Germany, about the use of Western weapons in Russia, against Russian targets within Russia. And Ukraine's been pushing very strongly to have those restrictions lifted, to have the right to be able to attack. And Ukrainians have been very vocal, saying they cannot be expected to win a war whilst they're being asked to fight essentially with one hand, tight-mined their backs. So what we're seeing now with this very open and for the first time an actual direct invasion

Starting point is 01:35:38 of Russia by the Ukrainian military is them saying, well, you don't need to fear escalation. You don't need to fear Russia's red lines because actually Russia will not react in some dramatic fashion in terms of escalation. There's nothing there. It's essentially a bluff. So I think Ukraine is calling the bluff. Well, they didn't do this necessarily with our stuff.

Starting point is 01:36:01 They did it with F-16s, they did it with drones, which is yay for Eric Schmidt. I have no idea what's going on with this. And maybe they did or didn't use our stuff, but they're not supposed to use our stuff. Not without permission. I don't know. This is going to develop into, this is not a good thing. I don't think.

Starting point is 01:36:25 Oh, we called their bluff. Okay. Well, you don't know. This is gonna develop into, this is not a good thing. I don't think. Oh, we called their bluff. Okay, well, you don't know that. What was the bluff? That we're not gonna do anything? Just the whole thing makes no sense. It just seems like they had a plan to do something like this and they did it to prove they could do it. It was just meaningless.

Starting point is 01:36:42 Yeah. All right. That's all I got on just meaningless. Yeah. All right. That's all I got on your crane. Okay. Just on the military front, one of our dudes named Ben checked in. Centcom Central Command has some kind of cyber event going on. It's been going on throughout the whole weekend. kind of cyber event going on. It's been going on throughout the whole weekend.

Starting point is 01:37:05 And even sentcom.mil is unresponsive, which is their main website. And you didn't hear about that anywhere else. No, it'd be Iran again. Could be Russia, could be Ukraine. I like Iran. And I, and while we're, while we're on that, I have a CrowdStrike EULA lawsuit update from Rob. Clownstrike? Yeah, Clownstrike.

Starting point is 01:37:32 I'll write that down. Yes. Clownstrike, you know, the boys, David Boyce, they're suing. Yeah, the big boys. The big boys are suing. So Delta is really mad. They're saying, hey, man, because of you guys, we lost a lot of money. But Rob got a hold of Delta's reply to CrowdStrike's response, which was sent by David Boyce himself.

Starting point is 01:38:02 And Rob says it's interesting because it touches on the contractual limitations on damages that CrowdStrike or ClownStrike has cited. Boyce has not yet invoked the F word meaning fraud but he does allege quote gross negligence and quote willful misconduct and to support these allegations he cites CrowdStrike's own reports when they came out with a very technical reason for what had happened. As for fraud, he makes a not-so-veiled suggestion that discovery will dislodge even more evidence. The letter speaks of a second bug that made the problem even worse. In response to CrowdStrike's claim that Delta caused its own troubles through bad IT operations, Boyce argues that Delta was just relying on CrowdStrike and Microsoft. So they're estimating damages at half a billion dollars.

Starting point is 01:38:57 So this EULA thing may fall apart. Wouldn't that be great? It would be great if it actually falls apart because then it opens the door to... Everything. What it does is it opens the door to better quality products. Amen. Because right now it uses the all-purpose excuse to make crap and sell it. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.

Starting point is 01:39:22 Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in clown strikes. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John C. DeVore! In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Crane. The morning ship has seen boots and graphite in the air, subs in the water, and dames and knights out there. Hello, troll count! I didn't, I think I counted most of them. Oh, 2358.

Starting point is 01:39:48 Good troll count. We have more trolls in the troll room than Kamala Harris has at one of her rallies. This is good. Way to go trolls. How many? I didn't get the number. 2358. For Sunday?

Starting point is 01:39:59 Yeah. It's down 100. It is down 100, but we're also at one hour and 40 minutes because you insisted upon doing Ukraine. And if there's anything that scares trolls off, it's Ukraine news. It's almost as bad as Africa news. The trolls are in the troll room. You can join them at trollroom.io.

Starting point is 01:40:19 We highly recommend that. It's fun. We are one of the few podcasts that have figured out this is the way to do them. You do the show live. You have, in essence, a live studio audience, although much bigger than the phony, baloney Hollywood guys. And you can say, and you're interacting. I'm reading what people are saying.

Starting point is 01:40:36 Clip custodians sending me links. I was like, oh, it's this guy from Russia. This expands. We have producers. We have over 2000 producers who are on our ass throughout the entire show. This is, this expands. We have producers, we have 2000, over 2000 producers who are on our ass throughout the entire show. This is good. This is how it should be, because it's value for value.

Starting point is 01:40:52 Know what I'm saying? Everyone contributes. We also recommend that you use a modern podcast app to listen and be alerted when we go live or any of the shows that go live, no agenda stream. They have a ton of live shows there, but there's others as well. There's even a Mastodon account. I think it's at Podcast Live or something. You can see whenever a podcast goes live, there's a lot. There's always somebody going live and you can be alerted in the podcast app where you get all of your podcasts. We recommend

Starting point is 01:41:22 you drop your legacy app because so many more features. And with all the deplatforming that's going on three to four a day from Spotify and from Apple, why don't you just keep listening to the podcast that you want to and support them all through the modern podcast, podcastapps.com. Value for value is still our model, although we are desperately seeking an exit strategy. We got another note from somebody who knows about the cable business and that wasn't quite so rosy as the previous one with the spreadsheet. The thing that stuck out for me was, if you guys are going to own cable, forget putting

Starting point is 01:42:02 it out as a podcast. They'll never go for it. You get those notes from that producer? Yeah, I got them. Yeah. I don't know. It didn't, didn't sound as great to me. I thought they were just negative Nelly stuff. I mean, you can say this about anything, any project you want to do.

Starting point is 01:42:19 You'll find some expert and it's usually an expert. Yes, typically. We'll have a million reasons why it won't work, which is just a good sign. And we really know the reason why it won't work is because we don't want to do any work. Yeah, that's why we're going to go away. We're going to do this. Oh yeah, we're doing this because Mimi wants it. That's why we're going to do this.

Starting point is 01:42:40 It's going to happen. We don't have any advertising. It turns out most podcasts don't have advertising. Wall Street Journal ran a big article saying, all the money goes to the top 1% of podcasts. I got to say that's probably true. Most of the money and even that it's all down. It's down. You know, their CPMs are, they're down and that's not even taking into account inflation. You know, it's not good out there. And by the way, it's not good on cable. It's not good anywhere.

Starting point is 01:43:18 You'd think we're in some kind of recession, John. Yeah, you'd think. What does the hair and hooker index say? Have you checked recently? Well, no, but there's been a number of articles written about the, they use hair and hookers, they use hair and strippers. Oh, well. And the stripper count is different than hookers, because the hooker theory, you can just look and you can see.

Starting point is 01:43:40 You don't have to go in anywhere. With the strippers, they have to actually ask the strippers you have to ask them and so the hook the hair part which you do you have to ask the hairdressers and they'll tell you well you know people aren't doing as much and you have to ask the hookers. I'm sorry not the hookers the strippers you have to ask the strippers are you get are the tips as good as they used to be. That's right. And the guy, she'll say, well, you know, maybe not because you've been better. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:44:07 And, um, what's that girl gonna do? Have you called Raven recently? Have you checked in with Raven? Raven's she's down in Mexico and so, uh, getting a butt lift. So, uh, so we're not the only ones who noticed this, but you know, it's hard to say. I mean, I get a lot of notes from people saying, I know that you're bitching about the donations being weighed down, but we're broke. Yeah, there's that.

Starting point is 01:44:36 Absolutely. Well, I mean, an entire tech network basically went out of business. The other thing is if you broke, if you bought a Starbucks coffee in the last month, are you that broke? Yeah, people make choices. Well, they should make the choice against the Starbucks coffee and send us the... What is it? What is one of those coffees? Nine bucks?

Starting point is 01:45:02 $18? $18? I don't know, it's very expensive these days. That's okay. Well, the model remains the same. If you want us to stay, then support us. It's that simple. It's that simple. Now for today, we have some people to thank in our time, talents and treasure equation, because that's what it is. Dame Kenny Ben came in with the artwork that we chose for episode 1684 titled that No Guff. Nice throwback, callback to the old times, old timey language, no guff. And we didn't find a lot of very inspiring art.

Starting point is 01:45:40 And this was, yeah, I think we both said, yeah, this is good. And Dame Kenny Ben made a very simple piece, but nice, nice font that she used, kind of a, what is this, a typewriter font? Is that what this is? Yeah, it's one of the typewriter fonts. And she just put words on there, bizarre, quirky, wacky, kooky, no agenda, agenda Adam Curry John C. Dvorak functional and for my money very usable because that was what was playing in everybody's mind this weird word with Tim Waltz getting credited for it so it worked it was spot-on now there were other things you know the thing is I remember I was pushing for packet filtered. Yes, you were.

Starting point is 01:46:26 From Sir Shug. I thought it would be misunderstood. I don't think many people would get it. You didn't like it at all. You hated it. I didn't hate it. I just said I don't... You pulled rank and said, we're going to do Bazaar, quirky, wacky, kooky.

Starting point is 01:46:39 No, I did not. I did not pull rank. This is a lie. It's a string of lies you keep stringing up. It's no good. I eventually agreed that the... Well, there was a lot of... We haven't done a pure font or type true cover for years. We have not. And they're very kind. It is a good, it's, it's legit. So it was very legit. It was, it was super legit. It was good. It was good. And I liked it. I liked it. Um, a lot of AI again, AI, I mean, it's just going down. There was a big study that came out.

Starting point is 01:47:17 Let me see. Um, adverse impacts of revealing the presence of artificial intelligence technology in product and service descriptions on purchase intentions. The mediating role of emotional trust and the moderating role of perceived risk. Synopsis according to CNN, brand should avoid this popular term, it's turning off customers. So people do, according to the study, this is the Journal of Hospitality Marketing and Management, but they did have 5,000 people in the study.

Starting point is 01:47:56 AI is not a good thing to promoting your product. Take that Apple iPhone, of course they have Apple intelligence, which is different. But they... I can see this being a fact. It's annoying to hear it all the time, constantly. AI, this AI, that. You know, it's bogus.

Starting point is 01:48:16 Yeah. Most of it isn't AI. It's just some algorithm or something. Yeah, exactly. But people are turned off by it. So good job, Tim Cook. See how that works out for you. And of course, because this also sucks.

Starting point is 01:48:35 I mean, most AI art just is no good. I like the AI art that came in that has a picture of, of it's called Cuddly Timmy and it's a bear eating spaghetti or something. That came in today. That, that isn't from- By Dropco. I think it came in before today. Because I saw it a couple days ago.

Starting point is 01:48:59 Submitted July 11th. July 11th? What? No. Seems to be inaccurate. Yeah, I think everything seems like it's July. So I think it came in today, August 11th. That does seem to be inaccurate. Well, whenever it came in, I'm pretty sure I saw yesterday the day before.

Starting point is 01:49:17 Yeah, but not on a show day. It wasn't on a show. It wasn't there. But whatever the case, I just like it because it looks like that guy, Tim, the tampon Tim because it looks like that guy, Tim, the tampon, Tim, it looks like him and it's, but it's a, it's a cuddly teddy bear looking thing. I don't know what prompts he did to get that to work, but, uh, I thought it was very funny personally. And it's all AI.

Starting point is 01:49:39 Well, so far, I mean, by the way, artists jury is still out. I'm not, I'm not all in like John is yet. And all I see is AI stuff. More AI. Stop it. Nick Clipcrestodian just did a pixel. He's a pixel Mike. This is the anti AI art. Okay. Well, even prompt jockeys are appreciated here. Well, even prompt jockeys are appreciated here. NoahGenderArtGenerator.com, everybody can participate. You can play along while you're listening. You can see what people are uploading.

Starting point is 01:50:13 It's always fun to see what artists think is going to catch our attention. I'm very anti-AI. And when it comes to art, it just all looks kind of the same. It's like, okay. And you can use it as a tool. You can use it as a tool. You can use it as a tool. But just a bigot. You're bigoted. Yes. I am AI bigoted. AI, B I G O T. I am AI bigot. That's correct.

Starting point is 01:50:35 So thank you very much, Dame Kenny Ben, another fine Dutch master of the arts. Now let's thank our producers who came in with the treasure of the time talent treasure equation Now of course we appreciate anyone who gives up their Starbucks to support the show you can do it for every single episode You can do sustaining do date donations go to no agenda donations calm We do like to highlight just like Hollywood our executive and associate executive producers That's why you get a credit the credit is usable anywhere credits are recognized your your LinkedIn profile you can use it there as there's something for your

Starting point is 01:51:12 resume or even open an IMDB account if you don't have one and $200 above gets you an associate executive producer we read your note $300 and above executive producer and we read your note and $300 and above executive producer, and we read your note. And am I reading this correctly that Sir Cross Threaded Wheel Stud came in, then saved the week? Yeah. Wow. It's actually three, he considers this and we have to obviously credit three

Starting point is 01:51:39 people. Three donations. Yes. Three donations of 11, 111.11. donations. Yes. Three donations of 11111.11. But if you, if you do a 333, what is it? This is a rubelizer donation. 333333 rubelizer. Yeah. India, Tangle, Mike, standby, 33, 33, 33, Robolizer out. Now I don't know, now is he, is this a new guy being knighted as Sir Cross-Threaded Wheelstead? Because I don't- I believe so.

Starting point is 01:52:22 I don't remember this name. I'll read his note here, which is penned- Do we have him on the list to be knighted? We do not. That's why I'm questioning it. Ah, so okay. Then we have a conundrum. Well, I mean, I don't have his name. He says, well, here's okay. Here's why I thought he should be on the list. ITM to switch your rules. 111111 for my sweet sister Dame Cece. 111111 for Reed Huntley in honor of his late father who was my cousin and a help to them? Help to all. Oh, okay, help to all.

Starting point is 01:53:03 Selfishly I take credit for 111111. Please award me the title of Sir Cross-Threaded Wheel Stud. Thanks for sharing your insights. So, I don't... Yeah, so he needs to be knighted. Okay, but I don't know his name, so we just say congratulations. Well, since he didn't... I mean, it's on the check I can go get his name But since he didn't put it on his note

Starting point is 01:53:26 I assume that he wants not to be known by his name, but I sure crossed the road wheel stud Well, he will be knighted today and I think appropriately so and we thank you very very much I'm gonna just throw out a gratuitous karma for him. That's awesome. You've got karma No You've got karma. Now, onward with Sir Victor in Corvallis, Oregon, 67371. With this donation of 640 plus fees, I'm upgrading from baronet to baron. All right. And you're on the list for the upgrade. And my new title, Sir Victor, Sir Victor the Baron of the Willamette Valley in Corvallis, Oregon. Okay, we got you. Thank you, Sir Victor.

Starting point is 01:54:13 Sir Jack Ash in Snohomish, Washington, 388.88. And this is a, a, a congratulation for John Amimi, ITM gents, congrats to John Amimi, very respectfully, Sir Jack Ash. And we thank you, Sir Jack Ash. This one here blows up my spreadsheet. You might want to take it. Sir Matthew in Hanover, Pennsylvania, 33342. He says, I've been a man overboard for too long.

Starting point is 01:54:40 My last donation was in 2017. Please de-douche me. You've been Deduced I have been back listening for the last six weeks or so since before the assassination attempt on Trump with this being a Momentous year of my life. I'm requesting some various forms of karma Okay on July 24th. I turned 40 July 29th. I celebrated 18 years of marriage with my wonderful wife. I also made my wife filet John's steak au poivre with roasted sweet potatoes risotto. After a battle with our local school district over the placement of my youngest son, we got an autism support classroom open where they should already have one.

Starting point is 01:55:36 After 15 years working with my in-laws as a financial advisor, we have begun ownership transition so they can finally retire. A big hiring karma please as we search for an additional licensed advisor to help support our clients. Thanks for all that you both continue to do. Glad to be back at the table enjoying a nice old fashioned. Adam, dealer's choice of jingles please.

Starting point is 01:55:59 That blows out my spreadsheet too. He says the ones I put together for my night hood were a nightmare. Sir Matthew and night since 2017, one of the founding producers back in 2010 PS in 2023, I was diagnosed with celiac disease and ADHD. So that was fun. Unfortunately, I did the Moderna COVID vaccine

Starting point is 01:56:22 in 2020, which triggered the celiac. Maybe. Maybe anything is possible. Do you have a, do you have a jingle that you'd like to play for him? I think we've have, have not played the share a secret jingle forever. Okay. Okay. Let's play the share a secret jingle. Oh, there's no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.

Starting point is 01:56:48 Now everyone hug and share a secret. Yeah, good choice. And a karma. He did need some karma, so I'll give him that. You've got karma. Onward with... Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility of three three two three three he sent a note in keeping it simple ITM He says the nation for August three three three three three love the show

Starting point is 01:57:13 Please grant me the tile of Viscount per accounting below and he's got all the accounting Adam, please throw in a penny to align my total donations with the universe throw in a penny to align my total donations with the universe. There it is. No jingles, no karma, sincerely sir, pursuit of peace and tranquility in the lands of red clay and cherry trees. Beautiful. He's got a lot of numbers to add it up. Hey there's Jason Rich, I know Jason Rich, he's a rancher, he's a good rancher, up in Colorado I want to say. Let's read rancher, he's a good rancher, caught up in Colorado, I wanna say. Let's read his note, 333. ITM Gents, longtime listener, second time donor.

Starting point is 01:57:50 Yes, our regenerative ranching business, which includes direct to consumer beef and hogs, one of the founding members of the beef initiative, now also includes agritourism, farm stays, and our on-farm store. Our August and September bookings have fallen off so we are offering a 20% discount to no agenda listeners with code ITM20 on our booking website richranches.holidayfuture.com.

Starting point is 01:58:16 That's W-R-I-C-H-R-A-N-C-H-E-S richranches.holidayfuture.com. Come visit Western Colorado, enjoy local food and wine, shake your rancher's hand and support a small regenerative ranch. Thank you for your courage, Jason and Teresa Rich. Rick, he says Rick, I always pronounce it rich, but I guess it's Rick. And you can also find him on Airbnb.

Starting point is 01:58:42 That's so nice, thank you very much, Jason. And I met him at White Oak Pastures in Georgia when I went down there. You can also find him on Airbnb. That's so nice. Thank you very much, Jason. And I met him at White Oak Pastures in Georgia when I went down there. Nice guy. I'll give them both a karma. You've got karma. I have another long note from Anonymous in St. John's, Arizona, 202. I started listening to No Agenda in 2017.

Starting point is 01:59:04 This is my fourth donation. I think the reason No Agenda in 2017. It was my fourth donation. I think the reason No Agenda donations are down is No Agenda has a lot more competition from independent dissident voices over the last couple of years. Thanks mainly to Rumble and X and even YouTube as they're relaxing their censorship. Oh, please. YouTube is censoring people left and right. Which gives brings us to the bonus clip. Yeah. Yeah. This was kind of a sad moment. Longtime Google.

Starting point is 01:59:35 I got it. I got it. OK. One more time. Let's just pretend we didn't do any of that. Longtime Google executive and former YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki has died. She had lung cancer. She played a key role in the success of Google, coming on as one of the first employees after renting her garage to Google's founders. For almost a decade, Wojcicki was the head of YouTube, which she'd urged Google to acquire. Susan Wojcicki, also a wife and mother of five, was 56 years old. 56, man. Lung cancer is the worst. My mom died of lung cancer.

Starting point is 02:00:09 Yeah. Kind of a turbo version. Yes, it took. Yeah. My mom was alive a lot longer than Susan's sickness. That went very, very fast. Turbo, gee. And she really liked censoring all of that misinformation about COVID and vaccines. Yep. Don't want to say anything about it.

Starting point is 02:00:27 Little irony there, but not the time to speak ill of the dead. No, no sir. That said, no agenda is still my go-to source for reliable independent information of what's really going on in the world. You guys have a serious, you guys have serious competition these days. And almost every other source I follow is utilizing value for value, but all in all, you guys are still the best.

Starting point is 02:00:51 However, value for value is spreading. And those of us who are willing to financially support quality work, we spread much thinner than we were even two or three years ago. Well, hold on a second. It would be just dandy if everybody had a sustaining donation. You can lower the amount.

Starting point is 02:01:08 Everyone spreads it out. That's a pipe dream. But that would be good, but people don't do that. No. I took Adam's advice and refused to have my photo taken by TSA on a recent flight from Phoenix to Oakland. I've already been photographed

Starting point is 02:01:24 for their facial identity database, however, the sneakiness of this program is what caused me to refuse continued participation. The TSA agent told me no problem and just made sure my ID matched my boarding pass. However, when I went through the hands up, don't shoot computer screening, I was flagged for suspicious items

Starting point is 02:01:45 in both my crotch and buttocks area. Hey, what's that in your pants? I had to be patted down like a criminal. I complained to TSA supervisors, but to no avail. Good luck. The flight was then delayed, in my honest opinion, due to my noncompliance. I have good reason to believe TSA was reviewing

Starting point is 02:02:03 the video from my encounter, trying to determine if they had reason to ban me from my flight. Eventually they cleared the flight for boarding and I was able to board without incident. Although I had, it's a chilling effect by the way, without incident, although I had airline personnel giving me suspicious looks during the process. What's that in your crotch? My father grew up in El Cerrito. We took the ride there during my trip to the Bay area. I'd talked about John and Adam with my parents many times, jokingly acting like I actually knew you guys. Obviously I don't,

Starting point is 02:02:36 but sometimes it feels that way from being a long time listener to the podcast. And he says, I was disappointed. I missed the Bay area meetup and half jokingly told my parents that we should try to find John's house and stop by. Yeah. I'm sure John would be happy to hear that my parents talked me out of this. What are you packing? Anonymous?

Starting point is 02:02:59 Anyway, thank you very much. Dan Richmond, Alchua, Florida. Been a while. Ella, Alachua. Alachua, there you go, thank you. Or something like that. $200.66, been a while guys, please deduce. You've been deduced.

Starting point is 02:03:23 Adam, you were in the recent Bon Jovi documentary on Hulu filmed in 2022 to 2023. Yes, hopefully I was credited as VJ Emeritus. It featured John Bon Jovi constantly surrounded by masked servants. Not only that, he's also lost his voice and his mind. Sad, yeah. If you just go on YouTube and look for John Bon Jovi lost his voice, oh man. What happened? Oh, he can't sing anymore.

Starting point is 02:03:58 He can't hit the notes. Did he blow his vocal cords out from the screaming? I think so. I mean, he just can't. It was like, Oh, living on a prayer. He's like, Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

Starting point is 02:04:08 oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Yeah, I would think that really does always put a lot of stirring on his voice But it could happen PG Kelly's next on the list. He's in Los Angeles, California 200 bucks Adam John and the rest of the no agenda listeners

Starting point is 02:04:32 I come to you in great need many of you already know that I lost my sister PG Chris Linda one year ago today I've been working with attorneys and finally found out that Does I find found one that does both medical records reviews as well as medical malpractice wrongful death long suits if wrongdoing is found there are many odd issues with Lindas Karen the Hollywood Presbyterian Medical Center and question and question that questions so it should say that investigating. My attorney is anxious to get started. However, I spent all my money.

Starting point is 02:05:09 I reach out to you and help raising funds so I can move in the next step, the medical records review, donate, promote, share, they'll link, whatever you can do to get the word out. And it's helped fund Linde's extensive medical records review and it's, I never heard of this operation. Give, Give send go. Yeah, it's the Christian crowdfunding site. Give send Oh gives send to go justice for Linda with a Y Prayers are welcome. Bless you all PG Kelly PG. Yeah, he's been listening to the show

Starting point is 02:05:40 I think from the from show episode number one He's been around been around for for a long, long time. All right. All right, brother. We hope that works out. It's a give sango.com slash justice number four Linda with a Y. And there's another Linda John, you might as well. Well, Linda LuPatkin, she's up.

Starting point is 02:05:59 She's in Lakewood, Colorado, believe it or not. And she's says she would like some jobs, Karma. And then she says for a resume that gets resume, resume, resume, resume, resume, resume, resume that gets results, visit imagemakersinc.com. Your go-to for all your executive resume and job search needs is Image Makers Inc. with a K. And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and Resume, and writer of resumes, and she's good, everyone likes her. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Starting point is 02:06:34 Let's vote for jobs. Hey, there we go. You've got karma. That little freeze. Hey, that's it. Oh no, we have one more, Joshua Parker in Round Rock, Texas, 200. Associate executive producer. He says, keep up the great work.

Starting point is 02:06:49 I'm just chipping in for some of that sweet, sweet jobs karma. Josh Parker from Austin. Thank you, Josh. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You got karma. There you go. That's our list of executive and associate executive

Starting point is 02:07:06 producers. We appreciate you all very, very much. These credits are real, as I said earlier, and of course we'll be thanking everybody above $50. We don't go below that for reasons of anonymity, but we appreciate everyone who does a sustaining donation. You can give up at least one Starbucks for the show. Think about it. four more years. Thank you all again for supporting the show for episode 1685. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Order! Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! Yowza. Do I have a couple of clips that'll probably liven things up?

Starting point is 02:07:54 Okay. It's about deep fake porn. Well, it's about time. So... Or as we like to say, Veep fake. And so here we go. This is a four-parter. This is from PBS. What? A four-parter on PBS? Yeah, PBS.

Starting point is 02:08:17 Wow. Wow. Who expected that? That's it? Deep fake porn PBS is the first clip. Sexual images posted online without one's consent have long been a problem. That's it. Deepfake porn PBS is the first clip. Sexual images posted online without one's consent have long been a problem, starting with revenge porn. But deepfake and AI technology's ability to manipulate photos and even videos has made things worse.

Starting point is 02:08:40 Even Taylor Swift has been a victim of AI-generated sexual images. Now Google has announced new steps to combat sexually explicit deep fakes in their search results. But there is no one-size-fits-all solution for this complex problem. Parash Devey is a senior writer at Wired who's been reporting on all of this and joins us now. Parash, thank you so much for joining us. How quickly have we seen the rise of non-consensual sexual images online? And what is driving this?

Starting point is 02:09:10 I mean, it's huge. It's a huge problem. The doubling of these reports over the last couple of years is what we've been seeing in places like the UK and the US. And it's in part driven by those deep fakes that you were talking about. It is also driven in part by the porn industry, right? And this is all part of the porn economy now. People are paying to download images and videos of this nature. The non-consensual nature, yes. But I would draw a distinction between porn and this non-consensual image-based sexual abuse, which is not considered porn. You know, porn is generally viewed as more consensual.

Starting point is 02:09:51 Now, I just want to say, one of our producers, Eric Pepper, decided he was going to send me every single back issue of Wired magazine that he possesses, which has been quite tedious. I go to the PO box and the guy comes out with like, what is this? Comes out with a trolley. And Wired magazine has been wrong on just about every single cover they have ever published. Seriously, the web is dead. This machine will change the world. The web is dead.

Starting point is 02:10:25 One pill to a race. You should take shots at some of these covers and put together a compendium to prove this point of yours that you're making. Well there's a lot of AI stuff from 2002. That was the, yeah, okay. I mean it's all, it's all, everything they've done is wrong. So okay, let's hear about, let's hear what the what the well this it doesn't mean that this guy's off I actually had was skeptical of this character cuz he came from wired but then at the same time

Starting point is 02:10:52 He's actually making some decent points. Okay, he's It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. All right. Well, it's not a cover. It's a PBS special Yeah, okay according to the company, Sensity, 96% of deep fakes are sexually explicit and feature women who didn't consent to the creation of the content. Who is most vulnerable to being victimized in this way? It's everyone. There's been recent surveys that have shown it's men, it's young boys. There's a huge trend that have shown it's men, you know, it's young boys. There's a huge trend of sextortion that's been happening.

Starting point is 02:11:28 It's anyone that has their photo on the internet, which at this point is pretty much all of us. Google has said, Parash, that it will reduce the prominence and relevance of deepfake images in its searches. That addresses deepfakes, but what about actual images that are used without consent? Does Google go far enough to address those victims? So Google already takes those measures that you described, that they've just recently applied to deepfakes.

Starting point is 02:11:57 But what I've reported recently is that the key issue here is that there are numerous ideas on the table that Google could adopt to reduce the burden on victims of image-based sexual abuse. These are ideas proposed by survivors, their advocates, even employees within Google. And Google has just refused to adopt these ideas in part because they're worried about over-censorship, in part because they're worried it's coming off as too much of a regulator of the internet. But there are some basic ideas here that it's just unfathomable why they haven't pursued them.

Starting point is 02:12:31 Well, if Google does that, I'd say time to short your alphabet stock. Who wants to use them now? They're no good. Well, like you said, they haven't done Jack. No, but they're threatening. Part three. You use this term, image-based sexual abuse. Can you describe some of what happens to victims who find themselves in this situation?

Starting point is 02:12:57 Yeah, I mean, it's people who might send an image consensually, you know, that they've taken themselves a selfie, and then they've shared it with a friend. And then, you know, that friend has seeking revenge, something goes wrong in that relationship, they post it online. This could be surreptitious recordings of people. There's a number of ways someone could be, you know, suffering from this issue. And then the big issue is then they have to go to the place where they were traumatized,

Starting point is 02:13:23 go to the internet and find all these images, try to get it taken down. It's a lot of burden on the actual victims or survivors here to get rid of all this material from the internet. And it takes years and years sometimes. Well, that's something that all of us parents deal with. And we talk to our children. If your photo shows up on online, it could be there forever.

Starting point is 02:13:46 How difficult is the process for victims to take this stuff down? And how willing are the technology companies to meet victims halfway and help them? One of the things that's remarkable here is that there's a whole cottage industry of companies that have popped up charging sometimes thousands of dollars, you know, per sort of project or initiative to help victims get their images taken down. So this problem is so bad that there's like an economy that has been created around it. And these companies help the victims find the images. They even use AI to automatically find the images as they pop up, immediately take down

Starting point is 02:14:24 notices. But it is, immediately send take down notices. But it is a pain. Sometimes companies will ask for identity verifications. You have to send them your ID or they might question whether it was actually non-consensual. Maybe you've been an OnlyFans creator and then you have images of yourself leaked online, Google might question, well, are you still commercializing those images? It's a whole mess that these survivors have to go through. It sounds to me like this guy is an OnlyFans creator.

Starting point is 02:14:56 As an aside, just saying. Oh, okay. Let's finish it up. Besides tech companies, who else can be addressing this problem? Is this a law enforcement and regulatory policy problem as well? Absolutely. One of the things that I heard consistently from employees at Google and reporting my story was that why aren't law enforcement doing more to go after the criminals?

Starting point is 02:15:21 Why haven't we criminalized- Got work to do. More of this behavior across the country? There's, you know, most states have criminalized aspects of this. But there's certainly not enough

Starting point is 02:15:33 effort from law enforcement to go after the underlying criminals, in part because, you know, sometimes they may be overseas. Or even when they are brought to justice, you can't actually maybe get them in jail

Starting point is 02:15:44 or get them to pay up the damages that they're supposed to. That is Paresh Devey, a senior editor at WIRE joining us. Thanks so much, Paresh. Gosh, I'd hope there'd be some kind of big payoff on that one. No, it was just a flop. It was a dud. It was a dud.

Starting point is 02:16:02 It ended off, the cops didn't do anything and you're gonna take years to get rid. It sounds like a flop. It was a dud. It ended off. The cops didn't do anything. You're going to take years to get rid of it. It sounds like a ridiculous situation that probably wouldn't exist if the porn laws in general, if they were a little more, I'd say, like they were in the fifties. Oh, is that's what you want? A very popular stance. It's not popular and it's not what I want. I'm just saying that that would solve the problem. Let me do a couple other AI stories. I have two. The first one is in your backyard. New at 11, they say their neighbors are too noisy. Only the new neighbors aren't

Starting point is 02:16:37 people. They're Waymo cars honking in a parking lot and neighbors say it's keeping them up all night. NBC Bay area's Alyssa Gord shows us what they're seeing and hearing. That sound honking is waking up neighbors lately in this South of Market neighborhood. I get woken up at you know four o'clock in the morning and I look down and I'm convinced now it is coming from the Waymo's. Neighbors shared videos of driverless Waymo cars filing into the lot and backing into spots, which appears to trigger honking from the other Waymos. The cars are robotic and they're honking at each other and there's no one in the cars when it's happening and that's absurd. That I think is the most frustrating thing apart about this is that there's just nobody to talk to.

Starting point is 02:17:20 Like Furbies. And even at the corporate level, you know, I'm finding it difficult, not impossible." Neighbors say they've reported this to Waymo and are now taking to social media to get the company's attention. In a statement, Waymo says it's aware its cars may briefly honk while navigating its parking lots. Waymo says it has identified the cause and is in the process of implementing a fix. But these residents say they want to see a more neighborly response from the new autonomous vehicle company on the block. We love having them there.

Starting point is 02:17:52 We just would like them to stop honking their horn at four in the morning repeatedly. You make a good point. Well, that's the story that went by. I'm here and I haven't heard this story. It's great. Well, if you heard the honking, you'd be all over it. You imagine that the honk and you're right. It's like Furbies.

Starting point is 02:18:15 I found this to be quite interesting. JP Morgan, who doesn't know him, is now deploying AI chatbots and knowledge LLMs across all of their 60,000 employees. You recall back in April, JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon said that generative AI was, in his opinion, going to be as potentially significant as the advent of things like electricity and the internet. Then it would ultimately be sort of a coach sitting on every employee's desk, sort of helping them out, helping him write emails, generate reports, do research, things like

Starting point is 02:18:51 that. And now we have an idea of what he was really talking about. So they rolled out to about 60,000 employees and ultimately, I believe, hope to have it really ubiquitous within the bank, a program called LLM Suite. LLM Suite is essentially their front end, their wrapper, their portal into large language models of OpenAI, which is the LLM behind ChatGBT. Ultimately, will be the LLM behind several other models. Will be a portal to several other models of LLMs. And so this is essentially going to be sitting on JP Morgan's

Starting point is 02:19:29 employees' desks and is going to be helping them do cognitive tasks. And it's really kind of a surprising advent for this technology, Andrew. Well, so this was CNBC, which I like it when they do negative stories. It wasn't really that negative, but Andrew Ross Sorkin did ask an intelligent question, you know, ever since the deregulation of the banks, you know, you can both be a bank and an investment bank and they're supposed to be the, here it comes, Chinese wall. Remember that, John, the Chinese wall? Yeah, the old Chinese wall. What was the Chinese wall. Remember that John, the Chinese wall? Yeah, the old Chinese wall.

Starting point is 02:20:08 What was the Chinese wall supposed to do? Separates one thing from another so they don't interact. Well, how does that work in this case? You recall last year they actually banned, they restricted chat GPT from employee use and that's because they really didn't want to expose their proprietary JP Morgan data to the models and train the models of open AI. So they're containerizing their data and this is an ability for them to use the data of JP Morgan without exposing it to the outside world. But yeah, they're going to be able to use it to do research, to do sort of specific

Starting point is 02:20:40 tasks. Right, but I'm saying even inside, but I'm assuming there's going to be even more Chinese walls inside. I mean, they're going to have to containerize all sorts of parts of this. So the folks in the wealth management business can't be searching stuff that would exist in the banking business. The bankers shouldn't be searching stuff from the analysts. How does this all work? I don't know.

Starting point is 02:21:03 I would assume that's right, Andrew, that there are specific rules and obviously walls between the different parts of the business. You wouldn't want parts, you know, for instance, in wealth management folks to get potential data access from the investment bank, for instance. And, you know, they really took, I mean, it took them about a year to create this portal. And I think it's really because they want to do it in a way that was data secure. Andrew. Yeah. Data secure containerize, please.

Starting point is 02:21:31 Doubt it. What could possibly go wrong? Well, short, short JP Morgan. If there's a Chinese wall or not, I'd like to have some rationale for this. For the Chinese wall? I'm no, I mean, they deregulated the bank so they can do all these different things. They can be insurance companies, they can be investment bankers, they can be venture capitalists, they can be banks, actual banks. They can do all these things. So what if they interact with each other?

Starting point is 02:21:58 I just want to go into that LLM and say how how much did Jamie Diamond pay Epstein? Show me that. Show me that. I want to know. It would be nice to go into the LLM and exploit its knowledge base. Yes. Only if it's containerized though. So since we're in big tech, AI, the socials, we must go to the United Kingdom, still in chaos.

Starting point is 02:22:28 Oh, do I have any clips on this? I have clips. I have a couple of good ones, I think. The first one is- I have one. Now, first I'm gonna put a little bit of parameters around what's going on here. So there is, you know, this talk of, you know,

Starting point is 02:22:49 we're arresting anybody who does something wrong online. And I do have a copy of the online safety act, which now this was passed in 2023. It's still kind of being implemented, but it puts new duties on tech firms to protect their users from illegal content, which under the Act can include content involving hatred, disorder, provoking violence, or certain instances of disinformation. In the riots that have taken place in the UK since the three little girls were stabbed at the Taylor Swift

Starting point is 02:23:26 dance-a-thon more than 700 or actually 741 arrests have been made How many of those do you think relate to online offenses which seems to be the only thing I read about on Xnew social? This is a question for me? Yes. I'd say a hundred. Not even. Thirty-two. Okay.

Starting point is 02:23:49 Thirty-two. But here is the, here's some honcho saying, we're coming after you. We will throw the false force of the law at people. And whether you're in this country committing crimes on the streets or committing crimes from further afield online, we will come after you. Talk to me about that because we have seen some high profile figures whipping up the hatred. You talked about it in there with the officers in fact about this being added to by online commentary. I mean I'm even thinking of the likes of Elon Musk getting involved.

Starting point is 02:24:18 What are you considering when it comes to dealing with people who are whipping up this kind of behaviour from behind a keyboard and maybe in a different country. Keyboard warriors! Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from the law. You can be guilty of offences of incitement, of stirring up racial hatred. There are numerous terrorist offences regarding the publishing of material. All of those offences are in play if people are provoking hatred and violence on the streets And we'll come after those individuals

Starting point is 02:24:49 Just as we will physically confront on the streets the thugs and the yobbs who are taking who are causing the problems for communities Now I really like how this is played out Online and I really only have X and mastodon Because it's always captioned by they're going to extradite Americans. I don't think so. But I would say if you're posting on X, if you're posting, hey, go and kick those immigrants ass, you probably should not visit the UK. visit the UK. Here is an example of someone being convicted to 20 months for an online crime. You have been committed for sentence having pleaded guilty to an offense of publishing written material which is threatening, abusive or

Starting point is 02:25:41 insulting intending thereby to stir up racial hatred. The context of your offending is that it arises out of the civil unrest and disorder in many parts of the United Kingdom. On the night of the 2nd and 3rd of August, the Britannia Hotel in Leeds was attacked by people who threw missiles which damaged windows. At the time there were 210 occupants, many of whom were foreign refugees and asylum seekers. You took to social media in order to encourage others towards participation in the attacks upon the hotel. As is recognised on your behalf, this offence is so serious that an immediate custodial sentence is unavoidable. Would you stand please? The sentence that I pass has been reduced by one third to reflect your guilty plea.

Starting point is 02:26:48 The sentence is one of 20 months imprisonment. Now, you know, is this the clip? Do you never see the guy? Correct. And there's no background. You don't see anybody but this guy. I think this is staged. Could be.

Starting point is 02:27:02 There could be, but that does seem... I saw this clip. I said, this is phony. There's some phony about this clip. Could be, there may be some specific rules about what you can film and what angle you can film. But I just like to say, so there's a lot of people, we have a lot of keyboard warriors in America.

Starting point is 02:27:18 I'd be like, oh yeah, come and take it, come and take it. Limey, we kicked your ass. Well, this is true. We already did this, we tried it, you came, we kicked you out, we killed you both. I will remind everybody that if it were, if it had not switched to the immunity, uh, president Trump might actually be in some trouble because even in the United States, there are some limitations to your freedom of speech.

Starting point is 02:27:44 You can't, I mean, inciting a riot or an erection, as everyone said, meaning insurrection, there are some limitations around what you can do. Am I correct in saying that, John? Just want to make sure I'm correct. I don't know that you are. Isn't it, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater? They always say that, but where's the law against it? I don't know.

Starting point is 02:28:07 That's what I'm asking. So as far as I'm concerned, you can say fire in a theater and you might get beat up, which would be appropriate. Very appropriate. But it seems like this has just become a, I mean, literally, Twitter slash X is now all this. And I've tried to get out of the algo hole and it's just all this. It's just all of... Oh my God.

Starting point is 02:28:36 And the way that's playing out in the UK is they're using it to come after people. Nigel Farage is one. I did more to get rid of the BMP as a political force in Britain than anybody else in the country. You amplified this misinformation. No, no, no, no, Tom. No, you did. You were getting this wrong. Because you said some report suggests. Give us clarity. You didn't just say that though, Nigel. I did. You also said the internet was awash with all sorts of theories, all of which proved to be unfounded unfounded yes but that's what led to the riots in Southport but you indulged in those theories I've still been told whether this person was on a list or not I don't know the answer no one do you know I don't know but this is a

Starting point is 02:29:17 legitimate you think we deserve to know absolutely I think the police need to say my question is still valid your question is valid but not in the way that you put it because you know what you're doing You suggested some reports suggest that he was known to the security service that he came on in a boat that he was an asylum Seeker that's not true. And I didn't know my question. I did you know that I was a true I don't know now whether this man was nice. Why are you promoting those reports because I want to know the truth I wanted to know it then, I want to know it then, and I want to know it now. So he uh... What the hell crappy show is that where they talk all over each other? Oh that's

Starting point is 02:29:51 LBC, that's where that's where it's all playing out on LBC. But it really seems like they want us, they want to get somebody, they want a guy, and that guy is Tommy Robinson. For Tommy Robinson, a man who has been stirring up anti-Muslim hatred online for decades is back in the spotlight, accused of influencing the worst riots Britain has seen in over a decade by spreading anti-Muslim disinformation to his 900,000 followers on X. So before people get on quick and condemn the angry men, that anger is justified. So who is Tommy Robinson? Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, is a well-known anti-Muslim far-right figure in the UK. He co-founded the English Defence League, an anti-Muslim organisation, in 2009. Robinson's anti-Muslim activities heightened a few years later when grooming gang scandals

Starting point is 02:30:48 in towns across England rocked the UK. Robinson took lines from Islamic scriptures to suggest on-street grooming as a uniquely Muslim issue. Twitter banned Robinson in 2018 and Metta followed suit a year later for his anti-Muslim posts. Under Elon Musk's Twitter takeover, Robinson's account was reinstated in late 2023. Over the years, Robinson has raised millions of pounds in donations from followers.

Starting point is 02:31:15 A Guardian investigation in 2018 found that he also receives financial, political, and moral support from foreign groups and individuals, including US think tanks, right-wing Australians and Russian trolls. So where is Tommy Robinson now? Robinson has been abroad since 28 July. He left the UK on the eve of a court hearing over contempt of court proceedings. He has since been spotted on a luxury resort on Greek administered Southern Cyprus. Now with far-right

Starting point is 02:31:43 violence, clothing disorder across the UK and arrests underway, many are asking, what will happen to Tommy Robinson? Well, they want him. They want him. For sure, they want him. By the way, there's only one case, case law in First Amendment that I can find. It's Brandenburg versus Ohio, a from 1969 landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court interpreting the First Amendment to the US Constitution. The court held that government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless that speech is quote directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action,

Starting point is 02:32:29 which seems iffy. Well, that precludes a yelling fire in a crowded theater. Yes. Yes, which is very old. Yes, which is very old. It's just kind of accepted. I think it's just one of those agreed, you know, you agree. So if you're online and you're saying, hey go beat up some immigrants, that could be a problem. If there's a riot underway, that could be a problem. It's just interesting to see what's happening in general. It's just, it's like, wow, all the keyboard warriors are out and the

Starting point is 02:33:12 memes are hilarious, of course. And you're like, yeah, this will get you locked up for 20 months in the UK. It's like, yeah, okay. Great memes, everybody. So, I think they'll think they'll calm this down. The mainstream has already, man, the front pages for the 8th of August was all the same picture.

Starting point is 02:33:35 In the UK, they do this nightly and say, here's all the papers for tomorrow. And they show you the front pages, all the same with people saying, United, Britain stands firm against thugs and yobbs. Thousands take to the streets to counter threats from far right. And there it is. We've always said that this was about the far right. I have an NPR clip from the UK called UK Odd Report. It's only 17 seconds. Across the United Kingdom today, thousands of people turned out for anti-racist rallies. After anti-immigration, riots took place this week,

Starting point is 02:34:12 following the stabbing deaths of several children in a seaside town. In London, people gathered outside the right-wing Reform UK party's headquarters. Blame it on Farage. Yes, far right. That's it. Very subtle. Yeah, far right. We've been tracking this for months, years, far right, far right, far right. It has now emerged that the government in London has started flagging content it deems to be misinformation, but also something referred to as concerning content. X is among those who have been asked to remove posts which British officials consider to

Starting point is 02:34:49 threaten the country's national security. And while reports say Google, Metta and TikTok are complying with these demands, X is said to be resisting them. That's right, Elon, free speech. The accusations that social... That's because they don't have enough people. It's like, oh brother, we have to do what? Forget it. The accusations that social sites are providing a platform for hate while allegedly unaccountable for that what is coming from cabinet members and MPs alike.

Starting point is 02:35:23 Well, the bottom line is I'm all for X, Y, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, is coming from cabinet members and MPs alike. Well. They're a sentence structure. Yeah, not good. But the bottom line is, I'm all for X being a free for all, do whatever you want. Although I see zero posts or anything from the left. I think they've all. Oh, don't, oh please.

Starting point is 02:35:39 I haven't seen it. Go find the Michael Hayden threads and then just go down the line and click on any of those people that are, yeah you're right Michael, yeah Trump sucks. No, no wait, but wait, wait, that's freedom of speech not freedom of reach. It's not popping up is my point. Well not it, yeah because you've already been, the the Elgos have defined you I guess and they're not gonna going to give you that stuff. You have to go seek it. You can find it.

Starting point is 02:36:08 I mean you could find porn on X too, if you go seek it. I mean, it's all there. Yes, you can. It's mediocre porn. It's usually a link. Not that I know. But please, you know, the, the, the GM lawsuit and, you know, don't expect advertisers to show up. What was that all about? Seriously. I mean, freedom of speech and advertising, they're perpendicular. Advertising is always censorship, if only for the

Starting point is 02:36:48 competing product. You know what I mean? It's like we're... No, advertising is an anathema is the word you're looking for. Anathema, thank you. An anathema is a free speech. By the way, if you want both, you're not going to... It's really going to be tough. Yes. Where was Eli the coffee guy today? Missing in action. I didn't see him. Missing in action.

Starting point is 02:37:09 So, but, but you know, we talk about, I talk about Black Rifle. I talk about other kinds of coffee because he's not advertising. He's mentioning his code. Maybe that's why he didn't send in a donation today. I don't know. Well, because you mentioned something. I don't remember you plugging some other coffee. I could possibly plug other coffee. You get so much free stuff from Eli.

Starting point is 02:37:32 You can't drink it fast enough. Because I like Black Rifle. I like Black Rifle. Tina has had his decaffeinated. But my point is... Oh, it's decaffeinated. Yeah. My point is... you can't be yelling at advertisers, but I know what's happening. I know what the plan is. And it's interesting because that lawsuit was not just Elon against Garm, the Federation of World Advertisers Rating System, which has apparently folded, was like two guys.

Starting point is 02:38:11 Probably. Most likely. But it was also Rumble. Rumble. It could be Rumble. It could be Bitch. No, it was Rumble. And what Rumble is now doing is they are going after

Starting point is 02:38:27 advertisers who won't advertise. So they're making this. That's the old way of doing things. They're saying, Hey, Dunkin donuts. You don't want to advertise. We're going to see, you know, that's the true publishing model, by the way. People don't want to realize it. But that is the old model. It goes way back into the twenties and thirties, especially in the newspaper business where they, you know, would take over some city,

Starting point is 02:38:51 you got two or three newspapers that are competing, but they'd all want these like Macy's to average. Where's your Macy's advertising? How come you guys aren't average? You know, this is the type of sales, there's different kinds of sales. You go in and say, hey, you guys didn't advertise in the newspaper, the last Sunday paper, you

Starting point is 02:39:06 know, you got a big sale coming up, how come you didn't advertise? Well, you know, we really can't afford, oh really? I don't think you can afford not to advertise unless you want us to roll out this scandalous news about how you're treating your employees. Yeah, exactly. What's that in your mouth, Duncan? So, that's the way it used to be. Now they're so passive. You wonder why they went out of business, all these newspapers. They don't have any many balls anymore.

Starting point is 02:39:33 Well, it could be changing. Could be changing. That's what Rumble is doing. Rumble is creating a... Well, Rumble's got the right idea. That is the old fashioned... It sounds corrupt because it is, but it's the old way of doing things. It works. It works. Yeah. So, but in general, I mean, don't expect a lot of advertisers to be lining up your door if you tell them to go F themselves and you have, I know you guys can go F yourselves. Okay. All right. Good. We're out of here.

Starting point is 02:40:04 A quick update on this since everyone wants to know and I am the aviator, the airman on duty. Brazilian airline Voipass has confirmed that all 61 passengers and crew were killed when one of its planes crashed in Sao Paulo state. The ATR 72 aircraft went down in a residential area in the city of Vinheto, around 80 kilometers north of Sao Paulo city. Social media videos show the aircraft tumbling out of the sky as you can see here. Authorities say they found the black box and are working to determine the cause of the crash.

Starting point is 02:40:35 So the news this morning is on X of course, there were six cancer doctors on that plane, it was taken down. Well, I want to hear you. I was going to send you a note because I saw it. A couple of the videos are pretty spectacular because it shows the plane in a flat spin. Which is like, oh, there you go. You're not surviving this. No. But it was like, I looked up the ATR 72 and it has on the wiki page has all the

Starting point is 02:41:07 list of all the accidents it's ever had. Yep. And 90% of all the accidents it's ever had was icing issues. I guess the plane ices up real easy and then it craps out. Yeah there's a so there's two things this I believe this was icing. There were severe icing conditions at 17,000 feet where they were flying. And all turboprops always have to be aware of icing conditions, particularly T-tail, which is what the ATR is. And the things you have to do to get out of icing, the first thing is you immediately have to reduce your engines. And from what I could tell, that's just from what I could hear, didn't sound like they did that until they were almost down at the ground. So it might have been inexperience or poor training, But this was nothing more than a very, and icing, August, Brazil, Southern Hemisphere, you bet.

Starting point is 02:42:10 Very unfortunate, day wrecker for sure. But not some kind of hit job on cancer scientists. It was icing. And I think it was also the, you remember that plane crashed with the, one of the wives of the 9-11 victims who was making a big deal about stuff. And then that plane crashed.

Starting point is 02:42:32 It was also icing. I don't know if you remember that. We followed that for a while. I don't remember that. It was, it's always like, well, who was on the plane? This is when you're in that flat, a flat spin. No, this, there's no recovery pretty much. Not in that kind of aircraft. So that's an aircraft to avoid if you can.

Starting point is 02:42:49 Yeah, if you look at the Wiki page for that aircraft, there's a lot, it has a lot of issues. Although there's lots of these planes out there too, so it would be unfair. But it's always icing. Yeah, the Dutch City Hopper, a lot of those planes are like that. So be careful of icing. Now on the cancer tip, oh boy, what could this be? Diseases of all sorts become more common as we get older.

Starting point is 02:43:18 But now a new study shows millennials are at higher risk of developing certain cancers compared to baby boomers. And what doctors say could be driving that increase. I would never have thought of anything seriously wrong with me at all, being so young. Brina Dillman was 41, healthy, a busy working mom. Dillman couldn't believe she had colorectal cancer. But researchers say there's growing evidence younger people are more likely to develop certain cancers than their parents. What we want to understand now is why are these individuals not only being

Starting point is 02:43:52 diagnosed with cancer at young ages, but why are they also facing poorer outcomes than the generations before them? Miranda Fiddler-Banudia is a research scientist at the University of Calgary. She worked with the American Cancer Society on a study that found in the US, 17 of 34 cancers are being diagnosed more often in younger adults. Fiddler Benudia says the risk of developing some of them, including small intestine, kidney and pancreatic cancer, were two to three times greater for millennials born around 1990 compared to baby boomers. And then we also found for some of these cancers that mortality was also increasing in these

Starting point is 02:44:29 younger people. Yeah, I'm just going to say it because come on now. Come on. The number one group who wanted to go out during COVID, what was the requirement? Gee, did they take that into consideration in this survey, this test, this puzzling? It's so puzzling. Overall, did they take that into consideration in this survey, this test, this puzzling. It's so puzzling. Overall, death rates from cancer have been dropping, but the American study found there was a higher risk of death for young people with certain cancers, including endometrial, testicular and colorectal cancer. We don't want to freak people out. It's not, these are still very low numbers overall. Thank you. Dr. Shadi Ashamala is a cancer surgeon in Toronto. While the new study is American, he says cancer cases are rising in younger Canadians too.

Starting point is 02:45:13 His hospital, Sunnybrook, opened the first colorectal clinic for younger adults. Dr. Ashamala says more can be done. So we're actually winning in the population over 50 and those colorectal cancer rates are going down in populations that we're screening and so screening is absolutely the key. Check in with your body when something doesn't feel right, seek advice from your doctor. Bryna Dillman was a patient at Sunnybrook Hospital, now 46, she's thankful her cancer was caught early. I'm so grateful to my doctor who did not brush this away.

Starting point is 02:45:46 Doctors say it's not entirely clear what's driving the increase in cases, but 10 of the 17 cancers rising in younger adults are obesity-related. Scientists suspect changes in diet, more sedentary lifestyles, and early exposure to environmental chemicals could be factors. Yes, of course. Of course they could be factors. Of course chemicals could be factors. Yes, of course. Of course they could be factors. Of course they could be factors. I am so sick of this.

Starting point is 02:46:09 You think it'd be a factor. Nobody ever wants to, why don't they mention, at least mention the vaccine. Why don't they do that? Come on. Well, now let's go to San Francisco because there's another, I mean, it looks like they've cracked the case.

Starting point is 02:46:20 They've cracked the case of severe illness in kids. It was 2020 and Dr. Aaron Bodansky kept seeing a high number of children coming into the ICU with a mysterious inflammatory disease. They had severe inflammation of all of their bodies, but in particular, their lungs and really their hearts. Turns out this was happening to children across the world and no one knew why.

Starting point is 02:46:43 The illness came to be known as multi-system inflammatory syndrome in children. What could have happened across the world that that affects all these children? It's so baffling. Or MIS-C. The only thing we knew was that they had previously had a SARS-CoV-2 infection. As cases intensified, doctors suspected the severe inflammation was connected to the immune system to keep children alive. Medical personnel acted on that hunch. We used medicines to suppress and calm their immune system, which thankfully worked extremely well to save their lives. This

Starting point is 02:47:20 has been a puzzle that researchers and clinicians across the country and in fact across the world have tried to figure out and yet it has eluded almost everyone until now. After years in this lab they cracked the case. Okay so I'm gonna stop here for a second and by the way I don't want anyone to get cancer and I'm absolutely sure that the unhealthy sedentary lifestyle microplastics, we're not eating food anymore, I guarantee you that does not help. But I would just like to have one study, one study that goes mainstream with that just look at the side effects of the vaccination. It would be nice to know and now this guy gives

Starting point is 02:48:01 such a screwball explanation for what- Hold on a second. No, no. There's plenty of studies that show this. They just don't want to talk about it. That's what I said that goes mainstream. That's what I said. I was very specific. Well-

Starting point is 02:48:15 I was very specific. Depends. Yeah. Okay. I was specific about it. But listen to what this guy says and tell me, what is he really saying? So the aha moment was realizing that that unusual reaction Listen to what this guy says and tell me what is he really saying?

Starting point is 02:48:41 What is he saying? To me it sounds like a kind of a convoluted way of saying it was something that matched COVID that was inside our immune system. You mean like mRNA vaccine? Or is it some other thing that we don't know about? Listen again. Realizing that that unusual reaction to COVID matched something in our own immune system. So it acquired a target against COVID that matched us.

Starting point is 02:49:09 So it was attacking both at the same time. What does that mean? Wow, that's an interesting deconstruction of the gobbledygook that this guy expressed. But what he's actually saying was, and most people who had COVID were still encouraged to get the shot. Yes, particularly kids. So there's that element. But what he's saying is there's a X factor

Starting point is 02:49:37 that causes both the COVID and this immune thing. But he doesn't just say what the X factor is, the X factor in your argument would be the Vax. Or, you know, remember there was HIV in these vaccines, there was all kinds of stuff in there. Maybe not every single one. And I don't want to freak anybody out. If you feel good, you feel good.

Starting point is 02:49:59 It is a small percentage, but holy crap, this is weird. Hila. Ah, ah. Ah, weird. Ah, ah. Ah, ah. Ah, ah. Ah, ah. No, you caught yourself. I did.

Starting point is 02:50:09 No, let me go back. I'll play it one more time. Realizing that that unusual reaction to COVID matched something in our own immune system. So it acquired a target against COVID that matched us. So it was attacking both at the same time. Now they're hoping to use their findings to advance science.

Starting point is 02:50:28 Knowing that a virus can provoke an autoimmune reaction later on, and having this proof allows us to potentially develop therapeutics and diagnostics for anything like this that might occur in the future. Now listen to her. Now these scientists are hopeful this finding will help understand other diseases including type 1 diabetes or MS that we know are linked to viruses.

Starting point is 02:50:53 Diabetes and MS are linked to viruses? Well she said specifically diabetes type 1 which means your pancreas craps out. But that's because of a virus now? I don't know that. That's what she just said. Linked to viruses and MS linked to viruses. I don't know. All right. You're asking me questions out of the blue. I would like to lift everybody up with a short good news. I have very good news for you. Ozempic may have another side effect. Have you heard about the- It's good news?

Starting point is 02:51:29 It's a good news side effect? It's a good news side effect? Better sex. Of course. Yeah, there you go. Jacqueline Smith had a healthy sex life until she began taking Ozempic to lose weight. That's when she noticed some dramatic changes. Smith, 35, and her husband of seven years

Starting point is 02:51:49 went from having sex several times a week to doing it daily, sometimes more than once. Well, I'd say this thing needs to be on Medicare stat. Ha ha ha ha. What a crock. Yes. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

Starting point is 02:52:13 Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning. NoAgendaDonations.com is how you can support this valuable work that we feel we do for you. We give it away to everybody. No hoops, no levels, no jumps, no premium content behind firewalls. You support us if you get any value from the show. And here are the people, $50 and above, who supported us today very kindly. John, will you read them off for us? Yeah, we had a little top heavy today, so there's not that many but we're gonna start with Greg Hoi Hoi Hoi in Pacifica California 133.33 followed by Michael Henry parts unknown 92.72 and he wishes us a happy or me and me a happy anniversary thank you very much very nice sir johnny be good in 92.72 congrats on 36 years of wedding bliss never had a fight fight. Uh, what did I cook?

Starting point is 02:53:05 I cooked filet mignon. Yes. Yes. I've been cooking that a lot. Yes. Some reason. It's good. It's filet.

Starting point is 02:53:13 Where do you get your filet mignon? I get, I get the, if I can't find them, if they have them, I get the ultra hyper trimmed at Costco, the whole giant piece, the entire filet. Oh, that $110 hunk? That's one price. It's more? It's good for two meals and you can make a roast out of the big fat end of it. As a roast beef, the filet mignon roast beef is a very appreciated dish.

Starting point is 02:53:47 Maybe if you're nice, maybe Jason Rick will send you something from the ranch in Colorado. Yeah, well I'm sure it's going to be far superior to anything I can buy on the open market. Costco, yeah, for sure. Well, Costco's not that bad. Sir Cam or Chris Baylor in Kerrgraft in Wisconsin, 89 and 97. He has a very long note here. He's got a birthday, so that's things to always say. Oh, he does give you a pronunciation guide for kakana.

Starting point is 02:54:21 Yeah. For kaka. Kaka. Kaka. Kaka. Kaka-na. Kaka-na. Kakauna. Yeah. Yeah. For Kaka. Kaka. Kaka. Kaka. Kaka. Kaka. Kaka. Kaka. Kaka. We'll never forget. Kakauna. I'll never forget. I say, what do I say? Kakauna. Kakauna. Kakauna. Something like that. Kakauna. Kaka. Kakauna. Kaka. Kaka. Kaka. Kelly Hubbard, $88. Happy anniversary. Baron of the Gitmo Nation coffee pot 88 also have these are the left over anniversary donations I appreciate them Rita Harrington

Starting point is 02:54:57 Dame Rita and Sparks came in with 88 I'm up to speed and spun down she says. Thanks to our media deconstruction. Mike McCoy in Schomburg, Illinois 8008 is a boob donation. And it's in support of Kevin McLaughlin who came up is next in conquer North Carolina 8008. Tina always asks me, she says, to Kevin McLaughlin come in again the the Duke of Luna? I say, you bet. Every single show. He never ever forgets. It's been going on for about three years. Yeah, it's amazing. Thank you.

Starting point is 02:55:32 Maybe even longer. Thank you. Todd Banner in the Troll Room. Hey Todd. Medford, Oregon, 55-55. Mark Hardwick in Aledo, Texas, 53, 33. I think you missed Sir Greg with 55, 55. I think we missed him. Sir Greg, 55, 55. I missed him.

Starting point is 02:55:55 Also, Mark says, I'm Mark Hardwick, not Mary Hardwick. Sorry. Which I call the Marriott Saga Larsson in Sweden, 52, 23. And since he came in from Sweden, I'm going to say once the wish is beautiful and amazing partner, Ronnie, a happy birthday today. He is my absolute favorite person. Also want who introduced me to your show a couple years ago. This is Saga, Saga, which I guess is a female name.

Starting point is 02:56:34 Maybe. You don't know. They're Swedish, maybe. They're Swedish, Swedish. Amanda Adams in Fort Wayne, Indiana, 5310, happy anniversary. Bad, ah, here we go. Oh, where is their location? Bad ideas supply.

Starting point is 02:56:49 Look them up. You can look them up on Google. Bad ideas, so they make all kinds of things that you can burn with. They make like fireplaces for your patio. Made out of steel. William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas. 50. Oh, now we got the 50s already. Took that long, not long at all.

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Starting point is 02:59:49 wishes Nick Chapman a happy birthday. He turns 42 on August 21st, well in advance and well meant. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. It's your birthday, yeah. Toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, title changes. Turn and face the slaves. That's changes. Yes, we do have two title changes today. Baron Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility now becomes Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility

Starting point is 03:00:19 Viscount of the Lands of Red Clay and Cherry Blossoms. A beautiful title if ever seen one and Sir Victor Baron out of Willamette Valley. Now is Sir Victor the Baron of Willamette Valley as he upped his peerage earlier on. We thank you both for supporting the best podcast in the universe. We have two nightings today, a layaway night.

Starting point is 03:00:42 No, I only have two. What about the guy that we- That's the second one? Oh, okay. Yes, sorry And so that is sir cross and we're just going to we don't know his name But if he wants to let it be known later, we can always add that But we have a layaway night Tim Del Vecchio and he says hey, I've been asleep at the wheel of my regular contribution on autopilot I realize this is how it happens people become nights all of a sudden. Hey, I've been asleep at the wheel of my regular contribution on autopilot. I realized this is how it happens. People become knights all of a sudden. They're like, Hey, wait a minute. I passed knighthood level a few shows ago. I listened to every show and really appreciate the work that you both put in to deliver knowledge

Starting point is 03:01:15 and entertainment to us all. I haven't been deduced yet. So please deduce me. Whoops! I'm not even going to stand here and consult the book of knowledge. Alright, no, I'll de-douche instead. You've been de-douched. And he would like to be Knighted Sur Yankees fan if that's available. I believe it is. Keep up the great work, ITM Tim Del Vecchio. So Tim, I've got a blade right here. John, if you can bring out your blade, then we can get these guys up on...

Starting point is 03:01:44 There you go. Very nice, then we can get these guys. There you go very nice, okay? Something is right today I'm off on all the buttons Cross and Tim step on up both of you have become Knights of the Noah gender roundtable sir cross of course did that with a massive triple donation and Tim with a layaway night plan they both worked so I'm very proud to pronounce the KB as Sir Yankees fan and Sir Cross threaded wheel stud for you gentlemen we have hookers and

Starting point is 03:02:15 blow rent boys and Chardonnay along with that some diet soda and video games some harlots and Haldol pepperoni rolls and pale L's redheads and rise beers and blunts, Ruben S. Ruben and Rosé, vodka manila, bong hits and bourbon, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablum. But of course there is always the mutton and the mead here for you. Enjoy that at the round table and while you're pigging out there, yes I see you, Sir Tim. Please go to NoAgendaRings.com. Check out the beautiful Cygnet rings that we have on display there. One of them is for you. If you give us

Starting point is 03:02:51 your address and your ring size, there is a handy ring sizing guide on that site, NoAgendaRings.com. And as always, it comes accompanied with a certificate of authenticity and sticks of wax for you to sign and seal your important correspondence. Welcome gentlemen to the round table. No one should know meetups. It's not your party. Yeah baby, the party.

Starting point is 03:03:19 I thought I had a, I thought I had a meetup report. I have two promos so I might as well play those. This is a repeat promo, but it is coming up. It is the Austin slash San Marcos float meetup. It's a big deal. You float on the river and then you have a meetup later on. Take me down to the river where I can hold your body close to mine.

Starting point is 03:03:42 This is Baron Scott. And Kieber Christine. It's time again for the 4th Annual Central Texas Float Meet set for Saturday, August 17th. We will start on the 72 degree spring fed San Marcos River. Then we'll move the party over to the Ivers River Pub overlooking the river in the heart of San Marcos. Go to no agenda meetups for details and to RSVP to both the morning three-hour float and the afternoon meetup.

Starting point is 03:04:07 Remember connection is protection on the river. There you go Baron Scott and Dame Christine and of course we have the Kansas City meetup always fun. It's Sir Spencer here inviting all the Kansas City Noagenta Knights, Dames and even the Lames to the next meetup at a hidden gem burger joint in North KC. Hamburgers! What kind of hamburger? They got these big, juicy, home-style grass-fed beef burgers. No, no, no, no, no. Where'd you get them?

Starting point is 03:04:36 McDonald's, Wendy's, Jack in the Box? No, no, no, this is Tay's Burger Shack on Armour Road we're talking about. I hear they got some tasty burgers. I ain't never had one myself, how are they? Why don't you come find out for yourself next Sunday, August 18th at 3.33 p.m. Catch some amygdala therapy with your No Agenda fam and we'll have you saying.

Starting point is 03:04:53 Mm-hmm, this is a tasty burger. RSVP at NoAgendaMeetups.com. All right, Spencer, another No Agenda stream favorite. Here's what's coming up Meetup-wise. We do have one, actually a couple taking place today. The Margarita Meetup, now you needed to RSVP for that one. It's at Palm Beach Gardens in Florida. The Ricky Princess is hosting that, so hopefully we'll get a report.

Starting point is 03:05:18 We Drink and We Know Things, the Soviet Sunday edition of the Meetup 3BR Distillery, Keyport, New Jersey, well underway as we speak. The Save Democracy and Cat Ladies Meetup, 330 in Indianapolis. So y'all can, they're underway there. That's Sir Mark and Dame Maria. And that is at the St. Joseph Brewery and Public House. We have the Noagin the Southwest New Hampshire Meetup taking place in Keam, New Hampshire at the Keam New Hampshire meetup taking place in Keam, New Hampshire at the Keam, New Hampshire local burger.

Starting point is 03:05:47 Then on Thursday, our next show day, the Deutschbags in the USA, 5 o'clock at the Norwegian in Rockford, Illinois, and the Monsoon Dodgers summer meetup, 6.30 at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science Park. Also, Charlotte's thirsty third Thursday meetup, 7 o'clock at Ed's Tavern in Charlotteville North Carolina many more meetups to take a look at they are producer organized we sometimes we come to them otherwise we usually just hair with there with heads only on sticks if at all possible they are fun to go to you will meet interesting and wildly different people from anything you have ever met

Starting point is 03:06:25 But you will all get along because we all know connection is protection No agenda meetups calm if you can't find one near you start one yourself. It's easy You wanna be where you want me, trigger all hells and lame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party Yes I have two ISOs, we always like to choose them before we end the show It's an ISO that we will end the show with Do you have any ISOs at all actually? Yeah you do. Yeah I have a bunch of ISOs. Okay well I'll do mine first. This is

Starting point is 03:07:09 amazing! Hmm not bad, not bad. What? Say it again. This is, well you didn't hear it? Not really. Let me play it again. This is amazing! This is amazing! Okay that's no good. Damn, this could be bigger than Obama. Okay, you're underwhelmed. How about you? Wow. So you didn't even try. I didn't. You're right. I was busy with other stuff.

Starting point is 03:07:35 Oh, that's why I get this simple once. Let's go with thank you. Thank you. That's not bad. Can't go wrong with that. We can't go wrong. Thanks so much. Thanks so much. Thanks so much.

Starting point is 03:07:47 No good. No good. And then was up. What's up with that? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'll do a combo today. Let me see.

Starting point is 03:07:57 What's up with that? Thank you. That sounds pretty good. You don't like that. You think? Well, how about if anything, I just like- How about the other way around? Thank you and what's up with that?

Starting point is 03:08:07 Let me try that one. Let me see what we do. Thank you. What's up with that? Okay. I can do that. That works for me. Thank you.

Starting point is 03:08:15 What's up? I just have to remember. Hey everybody, about time to go. But before we do, it's always your favorite moment of the show. That's the one everybody would like to take you. your favorite moment of the show. Green fires for you and me. Just the tip with JCB. That's right everybody, we'd like to take you out of the show with a tip of the day. All right, this is a screwball tip.

Starting point is 03:08:38 Unlike all the others. People who just know lube involved. People who have a mouse or rat problem in their environment. Yeah, it happens. The latest thing now is to use these birth control mechanisms. What? And the animals can't reproduce and the generation dies off right on the spot. The product is called Evolve for mice. Wow. You look for a product called evolve and I got Mimi came up with this idea, uh, as a tip. And I said, well, you know, cause everybody did like my idea of you get a mouse or rat or son where you use

Starting point is 03:09:16 a blue trap, you can't catch him. You just poison them with the deadliest stuff. You can't, Oh no hawk is going to eat the thing and then he's going to die because I guess this happens once in a blue moon where some poor animal, you know, sees a dying mouse or something and then they eat it. But no, because of all the guilt ridden people in the family, the other one is for rats. They don't want to kill. They don't want to kill. Contrapest is another brand to look for, which is for rats. Contrapest, wow.

Starting point is 03:09:50 And Evolve is the other brand. So this, you want to get rid of your pests, vermin, as I would like to refer to them, which includes to me, deer. Vermin. You can do that with deer? You can give this to deer as well. No, no. The thing about this stuff, it only works on these rodents. So it's actually one of the safer products out there. Wow. All right. Excellent. Castrate your rats. Beautiful. And now John C. Dvorak with the tip of the day. And only the tip. Thatvorak with the tip of the day. And only the tip. That's all we got for you.

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