No Agenda - 1691 - "Joy Boy"

Starting point is 00:00:00 He'll never shut it down here. He'll keep it rolling for us. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, September 1st, 2024. This is your award-winning Give On Asian Media assassination episode 1691. This is No Agenda. Not banned in Brazil and broadcasting live

Starting point is 00:00:18 from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I to say, let me be clear. Let me be clear. Happy birthday to Adam. I'm John C. DeVorek. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.

Starting point is 00:00:34 In the morning. Well, thank you. Did you not respond to your invite? What invite? You were on the list. Tina said you opened it. She had an open from you. Ah, that's interesting. So you read it but it didn't register. My surprise party. Oh, congratulations. You didn't have a heart attack. That's a plus. No, I did not. Man, it's a little concerning when your wife can actually keep something

Starting point is 00:01:10 from you for two months and I had no clue. So you're telling me you're clueless? Completely clueless. But also the fact that Grand Duke Foley was there with his wife from California, the Duke of Texas, Gene, Rob the constitutional lawyer, the former New York banker and his wife, the blood diamond smugglers, the international arms dealer, my full dental team, Sir Mark Hall, Dame Christina Pearl, Charles the Lord King. I mean, it was-

Starting point is 00:01:42 Charles the Lord King? Yes, Charles the Lord King. I mean, it was... Charles the Lord King? Yes, Charles the Lord King. It was fantastic. It really was. It was great. I was very surprised. And I felt very loved, John, and everyone wanted to know, is John here? Is John here?

Starting point is 00:01:58 And so I guess you didn't know? It just did not fit into the schedule. I mean, I felt it was not. I got one eVite thing, but most of the eVite stuff gets put into the spam folder. And I did open one and then I never saw it again and then I kind of forgot about it. I said if John's coming he'll probably roll up just as we're leaving and he'd be like, hey turn on the TV. That would probably be true because I always get the time wrong.

Starting point is 00:02:37 Skrrt, here's JCB. Yes, that happened once. Anyway, the keeper really earned her name. I've never had a surprise. Have you ever had a surprise party thrown for you? God, no. I never thought I would like it, but man, I sure did. I sure did.

Starting point is 00:02:57 You got a lot of gifts? I got outrageous amount. Just that people showed up was fantastic. I got a lot of gifts. Well, let's talk about it. What did you get? I got a 12 gauge shotgun, short barrel home defense unit. That was a good one.

Starting point is 00:03:14 I got this amazing travel bag that's- I think this shotgun says it all. That's from my brother, Vic up in Dallas. The shotgun was right up there. Now, I mean, just tons of gifts. I mean, I can't even mention them all. I have to thank everybody saying, oh, it's going to be my first day vacation,

Starting point is 00:03:34 which I'll be working on. Leave tomorrow. I thought that was my gift, my birthday trip, but no, this was good. It was a Fredericksburg affair. We shut down Six Twists on Main Street. I thought that was my gift, my birthday trip, but no, this was good. It was a, it was a Fredericksburg affair. We shut down six twists on main street just for the, uh, just for the party. You were missed. Let me just say that you were missed.

Starting point is 00:03:58 Well, I appreciate that. Yeah, you were missed. Meanwhile, back at home, uh, we're not banned in Brazil. Yet. No, you can't ban us in Brazil. There's no way. We're on IPFS, man. There's no way. They cannot stop us. We're unstoppable. It's all the podcasting 2.0 stuff. Have you been following this ex-band in Brazil, which is just an outrage? It is an outrage. Yeah, really?

Starting point is 00:04:31 Is it really though? What's the point? Well, the point, well- I mean, the Brazilians, first of all, you have to remember the Brazilians are the only ones who adopted that Google. I can just about to remember the name of it. The Google social network that was competing with Facebook back about 10 years ago. Oh, God. What was that called? It was... Quickjumper.

Starting point is 00:04:56 No, not Quickly. Quickjump. That's the new social network. It was something crazy sounding. Orcut. Orcut. Orcut? Was it Orcut? Orcut? Yeah. Didn't they buy Orcut? Something crazy sounding or cut or cut or cut was it or cut nor or cut Yeah, didn't they didn't they buy or cut? They but who's they Google didn't Google buy. No, it's something they started This was I think there was an internal I like whatever the case was. It doesn't matter. It was hugely popular in Brazil

Starting point is 00:05:20 I was poor. That was or that was or cut. It was popular with the ladyboys. Well, Brazilians, you have to remember or have to know that they're extremely sociable. Yeah. It's probably the most sociable place I've ever been. And they'll throw a party for anything. And so their social networks would be something they'd really fall into fast. But it wouldn't prevent them from being normally sociable. It's not like here where your son's stuck on the phone all the time like a teenage girl. You don't talk to anybody and you're just glued to the phone.

Starting point is 00:06:01 That's a little different there. And so they're very concerned about any social media thing because it could take over the country. Well yeah, that's, I mean they got that right. So I looked into the story and there's a couple of interesting angles. Quick clip from Scandinavia. A Brazilian Supreme Court judge has ordered the immediate suspension of the social media platform X in Brazil Meaning people there can no longer access or use it. X owner Elon Musk failed to meet a deadline set by the court to name a new legal representative in the country.

Starting point is 00:06:36 The Brazilian court and Musk have been at odds for months fighting over free speech and for X allowing far-right accounts and misinformation on the platform. The Supreme Court said it won't bring back the platform until Musk complies with his orders and pays millions of dollars in fines. Musk was quick to react to this news, posting on the platform overnight, attacking the judge that issued the suspension. All right. So we have some details there.

Starting point is 00:07:03 I had to get everything from foreigners. Can't really get anything useful from American M5M. This is France 24 with some other details. The Brazilian Supreme Court Judge Alexandre de Moraes has ordered the full and immediate suspension of Elon Musk's social media platform X in Brazil. In his ruling, he condemned the owner of X, saying Elon Musk showed his total disrespect for Brazilian sovereignty and in particular for the judiciary, setting himself up as a true supranational entity and immune to the laws of each country. The judge on Wednesday said X in Brazil would be suspended if it didn't respect a deadline to appoint a legal representative as required by Brazilian law. That deadline was not respected.

Starting point is 00:07:49 The row between the judge and the tech billionaire has been simmering for months after X failed to comply with legal orders to block certain accounts accused of spreading fake news and hate messages. The most responded on his social media platform with a volley of posts saying that, among other things, free speech is the bedrock of democracy and an unelected pseudo-judge in Brazil is destroying it for political purposes. In his post, he compares the judge to Lord Voldemort out of the Harry Potter books. Okay, so there's a lot of misinformation, hate speech, the bedrock of democracy, we need free speech. So the reason for the blocking, I don't know if they blocked it or they turned off the

Starting point is 00:08:34 electricity in Brazil for like overnight. Oh, it just got no electricity. So reboot your routers everybody while we install some blocking software. Oh, that was your gag. So reboot your routers, everybody. Well, we install some blocking software. Oh, that was your gag. No, no, no, no. The gag is really, um, is really what's next. Uh, I referred to the gag before the show. Oh, I had a gag.

Starting point is 00:08:58 Yeah. You said re have you rebooted your router? Oh, no, only because a troll said that. We're no longer saying, remove your router. No, no, that had nothing to do with it. It just came up again. So I wanted to know the sequence of events. What actually happened? Is it just because of fake news and misinformation and hate speech?

Starting point is 00:09:15 And is Elon just standing up for free speech? Because everyone needs us worldwide. And Deutsche Welle, take it for what it's worth because we know who feeds Deutsche Welle the information, our own three letter agencies. They gave us some actual detail on the accounts that they wanted blocked. And so this is not atypical for X even. We know that X blocked several accounts, clearly for political reasons in Turkey at the behest of the Turkish government. And Elon said, well, you know, I want to keep operating there. It seems like this was kind of the same, but Elon just spun everybody all up over freeze breach. X announced on X that he would not comply with the court's instructions. Here's some of what...

Starting point is 00:10:06 This is a Brazilian professor who is... the guy's got on the horn here. ...appeared on the company's global affairs accounts today. Soon we expect Judge Alexander de Mores will order X to be shut down in Brazil simply because we would not comply with his illegal orders to censor his political opponents. Now these enemies include a duly elected senator and a 16 year old girl amongst others. So Professor, what is Elon Musk referring to there? He's referring to some of those investigations

Starting point is 00:10:36 that I mentioned. So in this case, there was a senator who was using his account to, for instance, incite the military against the civilian government. In the other case that he mentioned, a profile of a young girl was used apparently by her father to dox a police officer who was working in one of those investigations. And so it was in that context that Justice Morales ordered the platform to bring those profiles down.

Starting point is 00:11:07 But Mr. Musk, as I mentioned, is refusing to do that. And he's claiming that this is censorship, which I do not agree with, because as I mentioned, these decisions are being adopted in the context of investigations that look into violation of Brazilian laws. Okay. So that's a little different story. Who knows what's true. But as you said, I'm sure they wanted to stop some politician who was inciting the military to get out on the street because that seems to work in Brazil. And then doxing, I don't think that's cool under any circumstance. So I, you know, I don't know. I'm, I'm on the fence about this.

Starting point is 00:11:50 It's certainly being played as Elon. He'll never shut it down here. He'll keep it rolling for us. We're safe. We're safe. Don't worry. Please pay no attention to a Yaccarino in her twin in the background, twiddling the dials.

Starting point is 00:12:02 So I don't know, man. I don't know. And I'm surprised that our own M5M didn't come outs. So I don't know, man. I don't know. And I'm surprised that our own M5M didn't come out and say, yeah, you know, just like Trump was blocked for inciting an insurrection. So a little iffy. I don't know who's controlling the narrative here in our media regarding this. It's not played well. Satan's controlling the narrative here in our media regarding this. Satan? It's not played well.

Starting point is 00:12:26 Satan is controlling the whole media. Come on, the media in America is, it's just become tedious. It's so stupid and boring. Well, it's actually, it's humorous for us. But for people, I mean, are people still watching the M5M? I guess they must be. The numbers are there. Something must be working. I mean, they're not what the M5M? I guess they must be. The numbers are there. Something must be working.

Starting point is 00:12:46 They're not what they used to be. No. You want to look at numbers, you'd go to a football game, you know, you see some numbers. Yeah. That's why the Kelsey brothers are making so much money, apparently. Apparently. So, the Kelsey brothers. That and, you know, he's dating Taylor Swift. I'm sure that doesn't hurt.

Starting point is 00:13:08 I'm sure that's the smartest marketing movie could make. Yeah. They could make. Um, so probably double teaming her, you know, football. And this, okay. Um, so meanwhile, back here in the United States of America, all eyes on America because we got the most important election of our life coming up,

Starting point is 00:13:32 of our lifetime. Nothing matters more than this one. This is the one. Aren't you glad that we're still alive? And I can say this now as I'm 60. Yeah, it's fabulous. Since there's nothing in history has ever been like it is today. It's so tight too. It's fabulous. Nothing in history has ever been like it is today.

Starting point is 00:13:45 It's so tight too. It's tight. Curiously, it's tight every time we've been doing this show for 17 years almost, and it's always been tight. It's tight. It's always been tight. Our fourth presidential election, tight, tight, tight, tight. So... And when the money starts flowing in one direction, they make it tight in the other direction.

Starting point is 00:14:06 That's coincidentally. How does that work? I don't know. I'll tell you how it works from the industry perspective. Look, Trump's been spending more money than you guys. And now look, he's getting higher numbers. You better start ponying up. Or it'll be tight.

Starting point is 00:14:22 Be tight. Ponying up. Or it'll be tight. It'll be tight. So Vice President Harris and Vice President elect, I mean, not elect, nominee, Waltz did their interview on CNN. I think it does warrant some deconstruction. I think you and I both saw right off the bat what was wrong about this. Well, let me be clear.

Starting point is 00:14:48 Please do. That was it. That's all I have to say. Why was she sitting on a kindergarten chair? She looked like a little kid. Who styled this? And for what reason? Was this sabotage? I think it was incompetence. I think it is, I don't think it needs to be sabotage personally. I think that they're an incompetent group. They don't know what they're doing. She's always wearing these dumpy pants suits. Who's styling her? Well, to be fair, the pantsuits are there to hide things, including the,

Starting point is 00:15:28 uh, the. There's other ways of doing it. These are very dumpy pantsuits that can be styled. If you had Armani or somebody styled a pantsuit, it would, yeah, still be a pantsuit and it could still hide what you're trying to hide, but it wouldn't look like a dumpy cheap, not even, you know, It would, yeah, still be a pantsuit and it could still hide what you're trying to hide, but it wouldn't look like a dumpy, cheap, not even, you know, like a Ross pantsuit. It's just that plus the fact that she's sitting on a, what, on the floor.

Starting point is 00:15:57 Yeah. Also, the lighting was very poor because- The lighting was terrible. Her, I mean, we're just coming at this from television production standpoint, because we have a lot of experience with, I would have stopped this. Anybody with eyes to see would have said, hold on a second, Tim, you need to get on the kindergarten

Starting point is 00:16:15 chair because you look like the jolly green giant here. There's towering over her. Dana Bash had the lighting. Dana Bash, I did the same thing Kamala did. Dana Bash, Dana Bash had the lighting. Dana Bash, I did the same thing Kamala did. Dana Bash had the lighting. She had good lighting. Yes, she did have good lighting. Was this a cafeteria or what? It was supposed to be a diner or something, some casual location. It looked like it was an apartment building. What was the point? Exactly. It made no sense. It wasn't casual. It looked very uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable. It was dark. It dingy. It was emphasize her little girl looks.

Starting point is 00:16:55 She's down low to the ground. Oh, you think that was the idea? Let's make her look like a little girl. That's what it looked like. Where was JJ Abrams? I don't think that was the idea though. I think it's just base incompetence. Nobody knows the basics. You had all the head levels are supposed to be the same in these three shots. But you got to presume that CNN set this up. Is CNN now completely incompetent as well?

Starting point is 00:17:20 Well, if you're thinking that they brought over somebody that knew that they were doing at CNN and they let it happen like this, I'm wondering, we don't know behind the scenes what was going on. It could have been all Kamala people telling them what to do. And with the CNN people going, okay, whatever you want, you're editing it too, aren't you? Just imagine, Madam Vice president, you look fantastic. This is a perfect shot. This will really go over well.

Starting point is 00:17:51 I mean, JJ Abrams did the DNC. They couldn't get an extra day out of him? They got money. They got money. There's a hubris note here. It's you have to assume that you needed J.J. Abrams. Hey, you know, I did TV and when I was in high school, we had a little TV studio and I've done this.

Starting point is 00:18:16 I know what I'm doing. No, it's better than that. Hey, I do a podcast so I can help. I can help, Madam Vice President. I'm a podcaster. I'm a TikToker. TikTok is better than this. It was-

Starting point is 00:18:32 It was pathetic. And then to have on screen live. When it was taped? Yes. Talk about your- I forgot about that. I should have put that in the newsletter, that picture. Talk about your disinformation.

Starting point is 00:18:45 That was a lie. That was a lie. It was not live. Anyway, it was, in fact, it was two days earlier than when they taped it. Cause it took them two days to edit it down. Here's a, before the interview, and this is mainly from CNN, I think there's an MSNBC in there as well, the M5M, our mainstream media, was really just totally understanding of the lack of interviews because elections aren't about policy.

Starting point is 00:19:17 In fact, stating your policy is a very dumb move. No one wants to hear that. That can tank you. What people in America want the way we elect our presidents is the same way we choose our breakfast cereal. Vibes, man. Vibes. Candidates don't need us as journalists to get their message out. They don't anymore in this ecosystem. In the media, we're preoccupied with like, how much access, how many conversations is she going to have? I don't know how much that matters. There is risk in talking to us there's no doubt about that. When you hear the criticism, oh she has to do more interviews, she has to talk

Starting point is 00:19:51 about policy, insiders you're speaking to, they're sort of like no, yeah, absolutely not. There's a campaign, no, no. I love you all but I don't want her talking to you all right now. Remember what Elizabeth Warren did when she ran back in 2020? She had a white paper for every policy position under the ran back in 2020? She had a white paper for every policy position under the sun and what happened? She collapsed in the primary. So it's a belief that perhaps you put more ideas on paper. That's a bad idea. The more details you share, the more your policies are going to get picked apart. Harris has changed this from being a policy election and more of like a movement, a cultural movement. It's a vibes election. That's right.

Starting point is 00:20:25 Policy vibes. Vibes election. It's a vibes election. It's a vibes election that we're all feeling right now. It already felt like a vibes election before. Most elections are vibes elections. I think every election, frankly, is a vibes election. And I think there are really only two vibes that matter in American politics.

Starting point is 00:20:44 One is hope and joy, and the other is fear and anger. Wow. That's, that is the best. I'm actually going to give you a borderline clip because that's one of the better super cuts I've heard in a while. So funny. Yeah, I love that. There's only two types of vibes, man. Hope and joy or fear. And what was the last thing that said fear and?

Starting point is 00:21:09 Fear and anger or something. Hope and joy and the other is fear and anger. Fear and anger. And right in lockstep, we've kind of forgotten about our new CEO of National Public Radio or National Treasure. What's her name again? Catherine, Katie? I don't know. I remember it's a different name. our new CEO of National Public Radio or National Treasure. What's her name again? Catherine Katie? I don't know. I remember.

Starting point is 00:21:29 Let me hold on a second. Catherine Maher. Catherine Maher. Yeah, we did a whole thing on her. Yeah. So in her infinite wisdom to make sure that she keeps her, her aging listeners. I'm the last person to talk about aging. Yeah. You just had a surprise birthday for how old are you? Well, on Tuesday, I'll be 60. I still feel 15 inside.

Starting point is 00:21:59 You still make me laugh with the funny jokes. Um, in her infinite wisdom to make, to do her bit for the party. NPR has appointed a Joyzar. No. Yes. Ah, you caught me flat footed on this one. A Joyzar, yes. That's right.

Starting point is 00:22:23 Um. But is it Joy Behar? No, no, no, no, no, no. Is it Joy Reed? Amid the highly charged partisan politics in the US, along with wars in Ukraine, the Middle East, National Public Radio, it's appointed a Joy Czar to help the broadcaster find more uplifting stories. Embedded in the newsroom throughout the year, the person will aim to ratchet up our Joy Quotient. It's now a KPI, your Joy Quotient, across platforms. This is from an internal memo.

Starting point is 00:22:54 We do not know the name yet of the Joy Czar, but you can bet that person's going to have an interesting time. In fact, we should have, that should be a donation level. Joyzar. It can be a Joyzar of the No Agenda show. It's, I mean, but isn't- You're giving me ideas. Isn't this kind of obvious what they're doing? You know, if we didn't have enough politics of joy and black joy. Yeah, it's obvious what they're doing. They're promoting Kamala Harris.

Starting point is 00:23:29 Yes. And that's your news. This is our first big move from the new CEO. All right, everybody. I'm the new CEO. I'm going to fix this place. Here's what we're going to do. I'm going to appoint a joy czar. Who wants to be the joy czar? No hands go up. No, not me, not me, not me. Do you wanna- They just hired a guy where they fired from the DEI position.

Starting point is 00:23:56 Oh, that's, well, you know. That's not a bad idea. We have the Joy Department. Ooh, Joy Division, there you go. The Joy Division. Wasn you go. The Joy Division. Wasn't that a Nazi thing? The Joy Division. It all is a Nazi thing. Strength through Joy. Look it up on Google. Well, they've never actually used that slogan.

Starting point is 00:24:22 It doesn't matter. We can say they did. I mean, Joy Division was a band. To be clear. To be clear. Joy Division was a band, but I always thought that the whole thing was the whole... Let me see. What if I just consult the Book of Knowledge on Joy Division Nazis? Maybe that'll pop up. Let's see what happens. Joy Division. It's just good. It's just good. Joy Division. They say heil a lot. Do you want to hear? Let's play a couple of Camelot clips. Oh, yeah, because I have a yeah. Did you get some from the interview? I think there's one in here, Mike. I'm not seeing it, but I do have one

Starting point is 00:24:58 I want to play just as a warning. A warning shot across the bow. This was a slight super cut taken from the, um, Kamala versus Pence debate. Oh, oh, that's old. That's very old. It's a very old, it's from 2019. Oh no, no, 2020. And it was, uh, this is what she's up to when they talk about the open mics and the closed mics and this and that.

Starting point is 00:25:28 This is just a supercut of her interrupting or her being interrupted or claiming to be interrupted by Pence. And unfortunately, this would be better in video because she has this condescending, you're an idiot look on her face constantly. And this is, here's the clip. Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking. I have to lay up. I'm speaking.

Starting point is 00:25:52 I'm speaking. Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking. It would be important if you said the truth. Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking. Please. I'm speaking. No.

Starting point is 00:26:02 Okay. Okay. If you don't mind letting me finish, we can then have a conversation. Okay? Please. Okay. I'm trying to answer you now. The American people deserve a straight answer.

Starting point is 00:26:12 I will not sit here and be lectured by the vice president. I'm speaking. Yeah, I'm about to. I will not be lectured by the vice president. Wow. She did that again. She was got heckled again by Palestinian, pro-Palestinian protesters at one of her jam-packed events. Yeah, and she did that again. It's like, I'm speaking right now. And that's her whole thing. Her whole bit is,

Starting point is 00:26:39 yeah, it's like that. That is your bit. You just heard it. Yeah. Please wait for the lady. I'm speaking right now. And I'm sure that's what the September 10th debate will be, her saying, Mr. I will not be lectured by a former president. I'm speaking. I'm the vice president.

Starting point is 00:26:55 No, by a felon. A felon. A felon, exactly. I know felons. I won't be lectured by a felon. I know his type. I know his type. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:27:05 It didn't take more than 36 seconds for her to bring up Trump at the beginning of that interview. Did you notice that? Right. Here it is. The voters are really eager to hear what your plans are. If you are elected, what would you do on day one in the White House? Well, there are a number of things.

Starting point is 00:27:25 I will tell you first and foremost, one of my highest priorities is to do what we can to support and strengthen the middle class. When I look at the aspirations, the goals, the ambitions of the American people, I think that people are ready for a new way forward. In a way that generations of Americans have been fueled by hope and by optimism. I think sadly, in the last decade, we have had in the former president someone who has

Starting point is 00:28:07 really been pushing an agenda and an environment that is about diminishing the character and the strength of who we are as Americans, really dividing our nation. And I think people are ready to turn the page on that. Yeah, yeah, we're ready to turn the page on that. It's really no substance. I was surprised at how non-substantive her answers were, even though she was led to an extreme by Dana Bash. Yeah, she gave her a lot of opportunities. And not a lot of pushback on things like the whole Trump says you're black.

Starting point is 00:28:47 I mean, it's only 29 seconds and it was over and that's it. No further questions. I was a little bit surprised. People might be surprised to hear that you have never interacted with him, met him face to face. That's going to change soon. But what I want to ask you about is what he said last month. He suggested that you happened to turn black recently for political purposes

Starting point is 00:29:09 Questioning a core part of your identity Any same old tired playbook Next question, please That's it. That's it That's it. That's it. Who's in control? Hey, I'm speaking and when I'm not speaking, that's it Now yeah, that was the clip. I actually had That was a great clip because she she didn't know what to say What she hasn't said no no she hadn't even she knew that had to be coming and she could have probably

Starting point is 00:29:42 Formulated or worked with people to formulate something that was really clever. But she couldn't even do that. Same person who staged that whole interview was doing the answers, I guess. Just say, next question. There's no pass in presidential interview. You don't get to pass. Next question, please.

Starting point is 00:30:03 I'll pass on that question, Diana. But I have to say she is pretty black. I mean she is so black. She does this. I have a friend who had a Christmas party Christmas Eve every year and she asked me to make the greens for a party every year and I am not lying to you that I would make so many greens that I'd need to wash them in the bathtub. I'm telling you the truth. So how do you make your greens? Do you put turkey in them? Bacon.

Starting point is 00:30:38 Nice. My grandmother used to put bacon. Garlic. I put white vinegar. I do so I I start with, I slice up my garlic. But no, first I fry, chop up the bacon. And get all that fat going. Then I put garlic. Some chili peppers.

Starting point is 00:30:57 And then a lot of water and a little chicken stock. And I let it go for a while. Before I put the greens in. And then, right, so you get that going and all that flavor. And then I put the greens in for a couple hours. Then I do vinegar. And then I cheat and do a little Tabasco. No, that's okay.

Starting point is 00:31:18 Tabasco, of all, I like Louisiana hot sauce, but Tabasco has that right amount of vinegar. So that's how I do my green. I see why you get invited every year. Well there it is. Once you bring in the hot sauce and Tabasco and remember when people say I'm not lying, that's the truth, they're lying. It's not the truth.

Starting point is 00:31:41 That's always the case. That's what kids do. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, you are. If she has to wash that many greens in the tub... Yes, I was waiting for some cooking analysis on this. Thanks. If she has to wash that many greens in the tub, what does she cook these greens in?

Starting point is 00:32:04 She must have the pot the size of Manhattan. Yeah. The biggest pots you can get on a stove will not, I mean, it doesn't make sense the volume because she's talking about cooking collard greens or mustard greens, probably collards, because that's what you cook for two, three hours to get them to soften up. But wait, she lets them sit in the bathtub first for a couple hours. That doesn't- No, she never said, really said that.

Starting point is 00:32:30 Yes, she did. No, she says she washes them in the bathtub. Oh, okay. All right. Good point. And the other woman says, when she started talking about the boiling water, she said, she said a couple hours, she's just heating up the- The goo. The bacon and the stuff that's in boiling water, she said a couple hours, she's just heating up the,

Starting point is 00:32:46 The goo. The bacon and the stuff that's in the water. I don't know what the point of that is, a stump. Whatever the case. No, this is bull crap. She's no way she cooks a tub full of greens. She'd have to do them in batches and she never mentioned anything about doing them in batches

Starting point is 00:33:02 and where would she put the cooked greens? The whole thing is a joke. She's not lying. She's not lying. She's telling you the truth. This gas lighting from the M5M is the best it's ever been. It really is. I mean, we've seen that.

Starting point is 00:33:18 We've seen a lot. Well, it's definitely going to an extreme. I mean, the walls parted that interview. I don't know if you have any clips from walls. Yeah, I have one. I have one clip and I I mean his whole idea of blaming bad He's a teacher and he's blaming bad grammar. Here it is. Governor walls The country is just starting to get to know you I want to ask you a question about how you by the way Talk about turn that frown upside down that guy's mouth is perpetually weighted down by fishing lures or something.

Starting point is 00:33:48 You know what I mean? Yeah, he's got that look. Yeah, it's grim. Yeah, grim. Describe your service in the National Guard. You said that you carried weapons in war, but you have never deployed actually in a war zone. A campaign official said that you

Starting point is 00:34:05 misspoke. Did you? Well first of all I'm incredibly proud. I've done 24 years of wearing the uniform of this country. Equally proud of my service in public school. He wasn't wearing the uniform for 24 years. He was what they used to be called the weekend warrior. Yes, on the weekend he put the... because he was teaching and being football coach and whatever else and he makes it sound like he was in the army for 24 years. Yes, now I've had several, uh, so our producers write in saying, hold on a second. No one's really saying what this was weekend warrior. I've done 24 years of wearing uniform of this country,

Starting point is 00:34:43 equally proud of my service in a public school classroom, whether it's Congress or the governor. My record speaks for itself, but I think people are coming to get to know me. I speak like they do. I speak candidly. I wear my emotions on my sleeves and I speak especially passionately about our children being shot in schools and around guns. So I think people know me, they know who I am, they know where my heart is,

Starting point is 00:35:08 and again, my record has been out there for over 40 years to speak for itself. And the idea that you said that you were in war. So this was, I think this was set up, because Dana, this is not Dana going, hey, you didn't answer the question. This is Dana reminding him, remember what we rehearsed, hey, you didn't answer the question. This is Dana reminding him, remember what we rehearsed?

Starting point is 00:35:27 Remember? You got to answer that one. Remember the line? The idea that you said that you were in war. Did you misspeak as the campaign has said? I said, we were talking about in this case, this was after school shooting, the ideas of carrying these weapons of war.

Starting point is 00:35:40 And my wife, the English, she told me, my grammar is not always correct. But again, if it's not this, it's an attack on my children for showing love for me or it's an attack on my dog I'm not gonna do that. I'll never do it never demean another members service in any way I never have and I never will has anyone made fun of his dog or is that it doesn't mean his kid I mean what does he think his kid is a dog or his wife is a dog? I didn't know he had a dog has anyone made fun of his dog. No, no, maybe they have maybe we missed it Maybe it was an important media moment. We missed anything

Starting point is 00:36:14 You know, I was listening to by the way, he threw that thing out there. He did a besmirch Vance for his military service Early on you know, he early on. Yes, he did. You didn't even serve. Yes, he did. So he's full of shit, this guy. I was listening to disaffected podcast with Josh Slocum. Slocum, I think it is.

Starting point is 00:36:35 And the name is what? The disaffected podcast. That's a great name for a podcast. It's a great podcast, cause this is the whole, this is where I learned about, what's the B thing. I learned so much about it, I forgot already. You know, the mental illness.

Starting point is 00:36:53 You had to clip about it. The B, the B, the, not to mention B. Oh man, why am I? I like to see you swinging in the wind. This is going to go on for a while. I think it wasn't vitamin B. Thank you for being so helpful. Bipolar.

Starting point is 00:37:14 Yeah, but it had a, it had a name. It had a name. Yes. It was borderline is under there. Bipolar. Borderline personality disorder. Yeah, but it was, it was something B. Ah, I feel like an idiot.

Starting point is 00:37:26 Anyway, and he was saying that, you know, he comes from a cluster B. Thank you. Cluster B. You're the one that had the clip about cluster B, remember? Yeah, but you were saying B, B, B like it starts with B, not cluster. Cluster B. I heard it from him first, okay? And he said that he observed the arm yank that Waltz did on stage, which I looked at him like, well, it seemed like the kid was

Starting point is 00:37:56 going to walk into a teleprompter. And he comes from, Josh comes from a very abusive household, and he said, Oh no, this is someone who may be very different than we think at home. And I'm not going to say that, but because I'm going to say, Josh said it, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised. Look, just look at the guy's face. I mean, I've heard of resting bitch face, but that's, that's amazing what that guy has. You imagine looking at that. So you think he's an a-hole?

Starting point is 00:38:27 Possibly. Yeah, well, I don't know why you should be so reluctant to say that. He just seems like one. I mean, I have a clip I've been hanging on to because he keeps saying, well, it was just a mistake. And this is where he, you know, he, he didn't retire as Sergeant Major or whatever from the army. He had stolen valor. He had stolen valor.

Starting point is 00:38:45 Stolen valor. He had the downgrade. He was downgraded because he never finished. He didn't complete the course. He didn't take the test. He was not done. He didn't do it right. But he's still taking credit for it. And so this is a clip of just a few examples of his refusing to correct people who said it, and him saying it, and everything in between. This is the Walsh misspoke supercut major. As a retired sergeant major in the Army National Guard out of Minnesota. Retired out as command sergeant major.

Starting point is 00:39:16 I spent 24 years in the military, congressman, as a command sergeant major. Tim Walsh is one of those everyday people. Coach to the state champs is one of those everyday people. Coach to the state champs. Teacher of the year. Command Sergeant Major. I am a retired command sergeant major in the Minnesota National Guard. I am a retired sergeant major in the Army National Guard. What I consider to be the responsibility and the privilege of being the highest ranking enlisted personnel ever to serve in Congress. And I'm the Democrat...

Starting point is 00:39:46 What rank was that? Command Sergeant Major. So when you first came to Washington, you were a retired Command Sergeant Major in the Army National Guard. So you... I was an enlisted soldier for all those years and care of troops and making sure they have the right equipment is paramount. So... He's a coach to the state football champs and he's a command sergeant major in the Army National Guard. I have to introduce to you my favorite co-worker who achieved the rank of command sergeant major in the Army National Guard

Starting point is 00:40:19 and someone who proudly wears the Red Bull whenever he can. So please join me in welcoming our governor, a veteran, Governors in Walls. I've been a team sergeant for 24 years, including in operations during freedom. Retired as the command sergeant major, which makes it the highest rank enlisted. No wonder you've been hanging on to it. It was almost unintelligible.

Starting point is 00:40:45 Well, it falls apart, yes. But what's so, to me... But it's obvious what he's up to here. He's a liar. Well, it's fascinating because if you went out on the streets of America to man on the street before Waltz, no one would have even known of the rank command of Sergeant Major. I didn't. You know, Lieutenant, Sergeant, maybe

Starting point is 00:41:05 Sergeant, Command Sergeant Major. I don't think anyone would have known about it. Now everyone's like, oh, he's Command Sergeant Major. That's how it works. And I will have to say that the M5M's is pretty large because it's put online. That's where it gets traction. And that's how we also get traction for the horrible JD Vance. You know, he, oh my Lord, he is so mean to women. He hates women. In fact, he hates women so much. His example of dumb women could make you John C. Devorak vice president Let's start with JD Vance of course Trump's running mate last night

Starting point is 00:41:50 He posted an old viral video on acts of a teenage beauty contestant who badly flubbed a question and he wrote Breaking I have gotten a hold of the full Kamala Harris CNN interview And that post in and of itself trades on of course misogynist and reductive tropes about beauty queens being stupid and insinuating that Harris, by extension, fits in this category. This morning, when he was told that the young contestant in that video, Caitlin Upton, was traumatized by how that embarrassing moment was so widely shared back in 2007 and even contemplated suicide. JD Vance said this.

Starting point is 00:42:31 Politics has gotten way too lame, John, way too boring. You can have some fun while making a good argument to the American people about how you're going to improve their lives. I'm not going to apologize for posting a joke, but I wish the best for Caitlin. I hope that she's doing well and again what I'd say is one bad moment shouldn't define anybody and the best way to deal with this stuff is to laugh at ourselves. Of course the trouble with that answer is that Vance isn't laughing at himself. The optics, if you parse it, he's making a joke about a woman at the expense of another woman. Oh! Oh no!

Starting point is 00:43:05 It's a double whammy. Let's parse this. Oh brother, he's really a nice guy and he's trying to do his best there. And I think he did well. And then all of a sudden you turn it back on him. Making fun of a woman at the expense of another woman. Well let's double down. Recent polls have shown a fifth of Americans can't locate the U.S. on a world map.

Starting point is 00:43:28 Why do you think this is? I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have maps and I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and the Iraq everywhere like such as and I believe that they should our education over here in the US should help the US or should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future. Thank you very much South Carolina. So this is the so JD Vans the guy that Tim Walz can't help saying he had or insinuating he had sex with his couch which is also funny. It's funny and total bull crap.

Starting point is 00:44:26 It was just dreamed up by a comedian basically. But then, but then wait another JCD moment because how many times have you not said at least half of this joke? But that is not the only post that's getting this team into hot water. One post in particular shared by Donald Trump a photo of Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris. And I'm going to warn you now that the joke attached to it is very vulgar. So if you have little ones that don't want to hear this, just sort of turn off the TV. This is your moment.

Starting point is 00:44:55 It basically says, it's funny how blowjobs impacted both of their careers differently. That, of course, a reference to Bill Clinton's inappropriate behavior with a White House intern, as well as an insinuation that Harris slept her way to a position of influence. So none of that likely to win over many women voters. What? I think lots of women would be like, hey, good point. Yeah, we've gone, we've sunk to a new low in politics. Unbelievable. No, it's completely believable. You're right.

Starting point is 00:45:29 I do that gag. I don't do it that much, but I have done that gag at least 20 times. I've made mention. Yeah. Usually with the time, with the purpose of timing. Correct. To get a cheap laugh from you. And it always works.

Starting point is 00:45:43 It tends to work, which is pathetic on your part. I'm blaming you for this. Hey, you're making fun of me at the expense of someone else now. I don't know. This is wrong. Yeah, it's terrible that people do that. It's wrong. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:46:02 That's hilarious. I'm glad that there's material here though, but it's just, is that really the level? If anything, the whole point is to make people tune out, I think. Eh, just tune out, who cares? I have just one final thing I've got to- I want to mention something else. This vibe, joy vibe thing, or the, oh, we don't need policy. We just need a person that's like that woman. Camilla is not likable. She is arrogant, condescending,

Starting point is 00:46:34 patronizing. She is, she's glib. She has a these looks on her face that she develops around people. She's a borderline antisocial. It's just, I don't see what the appeal is. These guys have got to be biting their tongue constantly when they're, because they have to. You know, Democrats, once a Democrat, always a Democrat. No, this is not Democrat.

Starting point is 00:46:59 This is just their job. This is what they're paid to do. They're part of the system. It's just, it's what it is, is what their job. This is what they're paid to do. They're part of the system. It's just, it's what it is, it's what you do. When the system is threatened, which it clearly is, by Trump and Bobby the Ops, who belongs in a loony bin. Oh, someone sent me the clip. Where is it here? I still don't have the Axelrod clip, which is really the best one if anyone can find that. Someone did send me the James Carville clip calling Bobby the Op a nut job. They would have him in a nice rubber room, three hearts in the car and take care of this guy. He's no business being out on the street mixing and mingling with people.

Starting point is 00:47:51 But this is where we are in this country. We have a mental health crisis. Mental health crisis. Bobby the Op is part of the mental health crisis. That's right. So then we get Ari Melber. Ari Melber, you know, he's a lawyer. Yeah, Mr. Five O'Clock Shadow. Hip-hop expert. He's always doing hip-hop lyrics. In the great words of Phil in the blank, Flavor Flav of Public Enemy, the guy with the gold tooth and the big clock around his neck, and he'll cite some rap lyrics. So supposedly, he made fun of which they were all doing. And by the

Starting point is 00:48:35 way, we made fun of it too, of Trump would come out with a giant pad on his ear at the RNC, which he kind of did. It's a giant gauze. As predicted. Yeah, we were talking a bit. I mean, there were jokes everywhere, like a big MyPillow on his head. And it was kind of a joke at the RNC. People had big, big pads on their head out of solidarity.

Starting point is 00:48:59 So Corey Lewandowski, is he back on the scene? Isn't this the guy who was Trump's campaign manager but then he got kicked out because he roughed up some journalists? He's the one, yes, he's the one and he is kind of back but he's not back in the position he used to be. Yeah, he's the one if you recall, he didn't do anything to any journalists. He kind of tapped somebody on the shoulder and told her to move aside. And then Ben Shapiro, who at the time hated Trump, made a big stink about it.

Starting point is 00:49:34 Because Shapiro, I believe, was working for Breitbart. And he wanted to do his own thing. And so he made a big stink about Lewandowski beating up this poor woman. And him and the woman started their own operation. Daily caller or whatever the hell it is. Daily wire, daily. Daily wire. Yeah. Whatever. But she had a bruise. I remember her showing her whole arm was bruised.

Starting point is 00:49:58 It was a, the whole thing was a scam. And I really lost a lot of respect for Shapiro at the time because it was obvious that he was in on it to make a fuss so he could start his own thing so he had an excuse to quit Breitbart. Well, so Corey Lewandowski is on MSNBC for some reason and he gets into it with Ari Melbourne. Ari Melbourne's pushing back and it was just, this was really good television. I do want to turn to something that came up in the last time we did an interview and it's been a few years you're back here as a representative of the campaign. That's a way back machine baby.

Starting point is 00:50:32 Okay wait a minute he's back as representative of the campaign and is and the first thing he says is whoa that's a way back machine baby. Okay Trump fire this guy. Okay so it's pretty bad. Can someone please get rid of Lewandowski? Well, Corey, when you were on here, we asked you point blank about these reports that Donald Trump as president had tried to use you as a kind of improper cutout to shut down an open federal probe, which is a big deal. We have some headlines on that and we asked you about it at the time. What federal probe? What was that? I don't remember either. Now I want to turn to this

Starting point is 00:51:10 to deal with the first time you've been back since then. Do you want to state for the record that what you stated on air was false? Because people are listening to you about the campaign. And why should they believe you if you're lying about other things? Oh, this is great. It's like, hey, Kamala lied for 18 minutes. So we're going to we're going to make a fuss about you lying four years ago. Ari, if we're going to go around the show, are you going to say that Donald Trump had a bandage on his ear just for spectacle? Are you going to say that that was false?

Starting point is 00:51:36 The guy got shot in the head. And you said the only reason he had a bandage on his ear. I can read you the quote if you want. Deflection. That you said it was just for spectacle. So if you want to apologize. You're not answering the question Cory. Ari, you're not answering the question.

Starting point is 00:51:50 Do you take back your statement? I know what you're referring to. And at the end of the interview we can touch base on that. We're going to finish this question. I will return to that. Oh brother. This is, you know, I hope just for the show sake that Louis Louis Louis Korandowski Cory Lewandowski these now from now on he's Louis Korandowski He's I hope Louie will be press secretary, please we have a now now you're talking Yes, there it is. I agree that would be

Starting point is 00:52:21 Fantastic. Well, wait until you hear what we're going to have for the next four more years. You're a clear straight speaker. Let's be straight. I am, man. I gave you time. I didn't lead with this. I gave you time to talk about 2024. You got that time.

Starting point is 00:52:33 You absolutely did. And this is now your chance to address this, and you're not addressing it. That's fine. Ari, you're not addressing the fact that you said Donald Trump has a bandage on his ear. You want me to respond to you? Now we're at the end of the interview? You want me to respond to that? I'd be happy to.

Starting point is 00:52:42 Do you agree that you're wrong? I'm going to respond to you? Now we're at the end of the interview? You want me to respond to that? I'd be happy to. I'm gonna I'm gonna respond to you on live air. I'm gonna respond to you on live air. I'm gonna respond to you on live air. Oh boy oh I have to turn it up I'm gonna respond to you on live air. Oh on live air. A New York Times article that said at the convention Donald Trump was his own biggest prop it was a New York Times quote about how he let me read has become how he had become Such an important figure in rebounding from what was a horrific assassination attempt for Cory I said I'd address it. I'm gonna finish Fox News Many viewers may not know about this but but apparently you do and some do Fox News Which has been caught in defamation ran a false piece defamation falsely stating that some do. Fox News, which has been caught in defamation, ran a false piece.

Starting point is 00:53:26 Defamation? Falsely stating that. Wait a minute, Fox News, which has been caught in defamation, so that would pertain to the Dominion Voting Machines case? It has to, what else would it be? So Fox News, no good. Falsely stating that I said something else

Starting point is 00:53:40 that I didn't say. So I stand on that. I stand on the New York Times quote. So you didn't say this bandage was a proper spectacle from McKinnon who was a Swiss spectacle. Mr. Lewandowski, I did not say that. Oh, he brought out the Mr. Louie. That is a false quote.

Starting point is 00:53:56 I have it right here. It's clicked. You absolutely said that. What you have is a false quote. And if you, I'm putting on notice, if you continue to. Oh, oh no, he's being put on notice by Ari Melber. Oh, this is bad I'm putting on notice if you continue to repeat falsely that I said that you will be potentially in a defamation situation

Starting point is 00:54:15 I'm gonna sue your ass buddy because I didn't say that but I understand that you're working off the internet Definitely false misquoting somebody's not defamation. He's full of shit, this guy. But Ari knows rap lyrics. So, okay. That I said that, you will be potentially in a defamation situation because I didn't say that. But I understand that you're working off the internet, which is a lot of false information. I wish you luck with that. I'm Corey Lewandowski. We gave you time. I appreciate you coming on. Thank you for joining me. Oh, you hung up on him. Rage quit. Oh man, please, please, Mr. Trump, make him your press secretary.

Starting point is 00:54:52 So good. What is that guy doing? And wasn't he? Remember he was banging Kristi Noem? Lewandowski? I think so. Oh, no way. Yes, yes way. Lewandowski? I think so. Oh, no way. Yes, yes way.

Starting point is 00:55:07 Lewandowski, Noam. I think so. I don't think so. Yes, Kristi Noam, Corey Lewandowski, Affair, Shakes Up Trump. Here. Yes. They even had a clip about it. Then Lewandowski would have been the guy who gave her the tip if she doesn't want to be

Starting point is 00:55:30 vice president and say that she shoots dogs. Shoot your dog. Shoot your dog. Yes, that's right. Wow. That's wild. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:55:40 How much we forget, but not our trolls. Our trolls remember these things, because I would never say banging that came from the troll room, obviously. Banging. That's not AC language. Because the British troll, they say shagging. Shagging. That's what I should have said, shagging. You're right. You're right. A final thing on this from the CNN interview. This is the overview from NBC's perspective who did not get the exclusive.

Starting point is 00:56:12 You know, Dina Bash is now promoting her book, coincidentally. And I heard her this morning talking about hospice. What's your book? Who's going to read a Dinah Bash book? Well, I mean, someone's going to buy it. It's America's Deadliest Election, the cautionary tale of the most violent election in American history. And that is actually the violent election of 1872.

Starting point is 00:56:43 But... That will be fascinating, a fascinating read That is actually the violent election of 1872. That will be fascinating, a fascinating read from a news anchor on CNN about the historic events of 1872. I don't think so. The entire country watched in grim fascination as the wounds of the Civil War were ripped open and the promise of President Grant's... They weren't watching TV. of the Civil War were ripped open and the promise of President Grant's reconstruction faltered in the face of violent resistance and the birth of the Ku Klux Klan.

Starting point is 00:57:14 Here we go. You see what is going on here? In this riveting book, according to Amazon, Danabash and David Fisher, the guy who wrote the book obviously, David Fisher, tell the incredible little known story of the election that pushed democracy to the breaking point and sparked historic events. Now you're a historian. Do you remember the historic events of the 1872 election? I was just a little kid.

Starting point is 00:57:46 The Colfax Massacre, which at least 150 black men were killed by white supremacists, also known as MAGA. The extraordinary train race from New York to New Orleans for control of the state government, they still have the same train running there. The election of the first black congressman from Louisiana in the face of violent resistance and the black, a black Republican, I might add. Thank you. The Supreme court ruling that ended reconstruction became the foundation of

Starting point is 00:58:20 Southern segregation, changing the American legal system for the next century. I mean, this is so planned. And then Dana is saying on her own station, and mind you, oh, it's been quite a week. It's been, I mean, I barely got any sleep. I had to do this incredibly, you know, it was just exciting interview. All 18, it was, you know, maybe the whole, she was interviewing for the whole week to get those 18 minutes. I don't know. Yes. Well that, I want to play a couple of things here, but I, now that you brought that 1872 thing up, I would, I wouldn't mind playing these, these clips about Christian nationalism, which is also playing into the same. Oh, here we go. Here we go. This is the same thing you just cited. This is all part, it's like the Reagan movie coming out and this other movie.

Starting point is 00:59:16 Oh yeah. It's all planned. It's like both sides are vying for attention. But this is the most pathetic one and this is a now NP that so this is this is my beat here yeah I'm playing you missed this you step on my beat all the time so I didn't have any problem going into no you you go for you go girl but it was this was on NPR and the subtext is that sorry, you'll hear the subtext right away, but it's just so,

Starting point is 00:59:52 it's just an anti-Trump without ever mentioning Trump ever. Uh, kind of a, and it's so dumb. It, this is incredibly dumb. This is a NPR special report on Christian nationalism. I actually cut, I have five short clips. I actually had to cut it off because it continued for another 10 minutes and it was just more than I could take. But let's play. Let's start with clip one. The leadest voices of America. This is NPR.

Starting point is 01:00:23 Christian nationalism is a movement that has gained momentum in conservative circles in recent years. The basic idea is a blend of government and religion, specifically Christianity, that is way more explicit and intense than it has typically been the case throughout American history. Oh! What? Now I'm going to have to interrupt these from time to time. Yeah, you should interrupt because that because what he just said is nonsense. There used to be revivalist moments in history that were outrageous.

Starting point is 01:00:53 And if you go back, this is, and when you start to hear the numbers he throws out of the number of people that are involved in one thing or another here, it's ridiculously low. But okay, here we go. Let's continue. I got to hear that again. I got to hear it again. The basic idea is a blend of government and religion, specifically Christianity, that is way more explicit and intense than it has typically been the case throughout American

Starting point is 01:01:18 history. Except for the actual beginning of it, but okay. A new public radio podcast takes a look in- Oh, it's a podcast. Oh, this wasn't on the air. Yes, it was. It says the new public radio podcast. No, okay. I pulled this right off of the on the air feed. He's referring to a podcast that talks about this endlessly.

Starting point is 01:01:40 Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Alright, alright. I strike that from the record. The jury will disregard my remark. ... the case throughout American history. A new Public Radio podcast takes a look inside the Christian nationalist movement. It's called Extremely American Onward Christian Soldiers. Here's host Heath Drusen and reporter James Dawson from Boise State Public Radio. I'm talking to Gabriel Rich, a media personality and activist in Idaho. Most people call him Gabe. Okay, great. Gabe has a lot of ideas about how America should change.

Starting point is 01:02:10 You said it would probably take a long time, but that you would like to see only Christians be able to run for office. So, if you're Jewish, if you're Muslim, if you're atheist, certainly. If I had you right, you said that, yes, you would support eventually them not being allowed to run for office. That's right. I did say that. Because Gabe is a- Oh. So this guy, where do they dig this guy up?

Starting point is 01:02:35 What's his last name? Gabe what? Gabe. This is Gabe from Idaho. I'm surprised I don't have him in my podcast app. I think he should be on your- I'm surprised he's not on your phone with it. You push a button, you call him. Hey, Gabe, let's get all them Muslims out of Congress, man.

Starting point is 01:02:50 This is no good. This is what the Lord wants. I did say that. Because Gabe is a proud Christian nationalist. I think that the Christian faith is the ideal world. Stop it again. You have to, and back it up up this guy is so adnoidal it's like yeah if I had a talk and I was gonna talk like this cuz I can't really breathe through my nose I'm not absolutely sure why but it just can't

Starting point is 01:03:17 get any air out what's it is his name Gabe right right what is his name? Gabe's home. Well, I got to find him. I mean, I'm looking in the... Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, I see. Definitely, definitely. Gabe Wrench. Okay, Gabe Wrench. R, not with a W.

Starting point is 01:03:37 I'm just looking at his website. Gabe Wrench. Wrench, R-E-N-C-H, like French without the F. This is a good old boy. He's got his hat on. He's sitting in his rocking chair on the porch with his cigar and his- Yeah, big cigar, a smoker, and a drinker. And a Texas mug, even though he's in Boise. Okay, here we go. I did say that.

Starting point is 01:04:01 Because Gabe is a proud Christian nationalist. I think that the Christian faith is the ideal moral doctrine and principles for a thriving society and the farther you get away from that, the more in chaos we descend. And so the only way to maintain that, or one of the ways to maintain that, is you have to have people who are running for office who believe that or you're going to get back into that chaotic decline. That doesn't mean that they can't be agnostic or atheist. Yes, it does. I'm sorry. Chaotic decline.

Starting point is 01:04:37 I'll tell you straight up, as a Jewish American, I hear that, that I can't run for office other non-christians can and I have to admit it's a little terrifying to me because to me that means a fundamental freedom of mine in this theoretical world is gone. Oh okay so what is this? Where do they dig this guy up? This is great. This is what you do because it's to scare the NPR audience into thinking this is what's going on with Trump. Oh my Lord. Trump doesn't want Jews in office. Trump doesn't want any Muslims or anybody or the atheists that run the country. They don't want to know. This is what you're gonna get.

Starting point is 01:05:26 You're gonna get because, so you find some guy like this. This is so dumb. This reminds me of the old trick where you set up a debate with two people and you pick both of them and you have one guy who's on your side and he's very reasonable, smart guy,

Starting point is 01:05:41 and then you bring the dumbest weirdo that you can think of and put that person on the other side and have them do a debate in public and then see what happens. This is a setup. The only thing that I think is Christian nationalism is the so-called Judeo, by the way, note the term Judeo-Christian values, which our constitution is derived from basically the Ten Commandments, and the founders were all into it. But I don't, you know, the first in the Bill of Rights is like First Amendment, it's like freedom of religion. There's no, and it doesn't, isn't there explicitly stating no religious test? Did that come up in this interview?

Starting point is 01:06:24 No. Yeah. You're saying that in a country where you experience all these immense freedoms that explicitly stating no religious test? Did that come up in this interview? No. Yeah, you're saying that in a country where you experience all these immense freedoms that was built on the Christian faith, so Yeah, because your worldview is not good for society. So Gabe wants biblical law to apply to everyone. That means a lot less democracy, especially for non-Christians like me. This is great. Biblical law, that means a lot less democracy. I should probably pause a moment here to acknowledge the bizarre journey I've been on for the past year. Please do. I've mentioned before that I'm Jewish, and it has been surreal.

Starting point is 01:07:02 Yeah, you said that, dude. Hey, tell us again, are you Jewish? Are you a Jew? before that I'm Jewish, and it has been surreal to be immersed in this world of Christian nationalism. Well, Jews don't believe in Jesus, so let's start there. Don't get me wrong, people like Gabe have been unfailingly polite, which frankly makes it weirder. Weirder! And being politely told, I don't deserve key rights. But the reason I'm here listening to Gabe explain why I should lose my rights is not to feel uncomfortable.

Starting point is 01:07:37 It's because plenty of people agree with him. Oh, so that's make that you're supposed to make the listener feel uncomfortable. Yeah, and plenty of people agree with this guy. Oh, so that's make that you're supposed to make the listener feel uncomfortable Yeah, and plenty of plenty of people agree with this guy and notice and by the way They're all Trump voters and notice the key term weird being slipped in there Yes, he slipped that in the whole thing is this is an anti Trump presentation that is all subtext subtextual and it is extremely subversive and it's disgusting. It's disgusting and it's basically a lie.

Starting point is 01:08:16 But let's continue because there's all kinds of people that would think just like this guy. There's more. There's more. Gabe is part of a younger vanguard of Christian nationalists trying to make their vision a reality and they're spreading their word through popular streaming shows including Gabe's creation Cross-Politik. Merry Christmas, Slogan across politics, you could not wait. They couldn't get a more recent version. They had to get, they had to take the Merry

Starting point is 01:08:42 Christmas show. Is that a... I don't know what they're doing. Merry Christmas, welcome to Cross Politics. You could not wait for the weekend to end and Cross Politics to begin. No. I mean, Cross Politics is a mashup of fundamentalist religion, politics, and drinking. They're all drunks. So it's kind of faster paced show and you know a little rough around the edges.

Starting point is 01:09:09 So I think that's attractive to a younger generation. Our music is a little more hard hitting. These aren't the mega church pastors of yore with their faith healing and fire and brimstone. Those guys focused on arena sized church crowds. Gabe and his allies use popular streaming shows and savvy... This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Mega churches do anything but fire and smoke. Exactly.

Starting point is 01:09:38 That's the much smaller churches do that kind of stuff. Yeah. The mega churches are entertainment vehicles. They have large audiences and they put on a show. Correct. It's a good show. So this guy doesn't know what he's saying, but okay, we're going to generalize based on the fact that you don't know what you're talking about, but let's continue because

Starting point is 01:09:59 this is really not about that anyway. It's about Trump. Those guys focused on arena sized church crowds. Gabe and his allies use popular streaming shows and savvy social media. They have followers around the country. They write books extolling the patriarchy and want their followers to get political. Well, hold on. What books extolling the patriarchy?

Starting point is 01:10:24 This is- Oh, they write books extolling the patriarchy. Yeah, the Handmaid's Tale, hold on. What books extolling the patriarchy? This is this is... Oh, they write books extolling the patriarchy. Yeah, the Handmaid's Tale, Project 2025. They have followers around the country. They write books extolling the patriarchy. And want their followers to get political and get more Christ into government. They love to get into my tribe, your tribe, tribalism, and all sorts of nonsense. Gabe and his Christian nationalist peers are a whiskey drinking, cigar smoking set that favor expensive boots and well-coiffed hair.

Starting point is 01:10:52 Uh oh! That's you, Adam. That's me. Well-coiffed expensive boots and well-coiffed hair. Uh oh. Uh oh. Hey, mate, you know, just thinking back to that opening where he says, yes, I did say that. It sounds like that might have been something that was taken out of context. Is that possible?

Starting point is 01:11:10 No. No, no, no, no. Gabe means it. He means it. No Jews in Congress. Too many of them. Sounds about right for the Christian nationalism. What clip are we on? We're on four kicker it says. Okay. Yeah, play. Yeah, play please. What are we drinking? This is a Clint Fittich 14 year. I don't have to go back. What? This is from a listener. Hold on a second. What kind of merkin is that? Drinking that Fern whiskey. malt, no less. What happened to Jack, baby?

Starting point is 01:11:46 Kind of hipster theocrats with a distinctly bro motif. And business is good. These guys have popular books, a large podcast, and a YouTube channel with about 20,000 subscribers. Ha ha ha! Woo! 20,000 subscribers on YouTube. Well, yeah. Wow.

Starting point is 01:12:11 They're rocking it. They're marching on their, they're marching their way to Washington, DC, everybody. So when I hear that's obviously why I cut this one short. I can't wait to be on this guy's podcast. This guy is, is a loser. And, you know, 20,000 subscribers on YouTube, that's falling off. That's not even falling off a log. The algos barely hit you with that.

Starting point is 01:12:38 So this is an extreme, this presentation on NPR. Very pathetic is what this is. It's pathetic, but it probably works because the NPR people are so naive and dumb, the listeners... And by the way, if anyone's sending money to these folks, please send it our way instead, because you're getting real information as opposed to... This is essentially a lie what this presentation is. Yeah. 20,000, oh, they've got popular books, a big popular jumping podcast and 20,000 subscribers on YouTube. This is like the typical one of these shows. What do you think Jordan Peters is like, what, five million people on YouTube? I mean., now this Gabe guy has written exactly zero books.

Starting point is 01:13:27 He hasn't written any books, at least not. Oh, you're, you're on his webpage. Yeah. He would have his books listed. Yeah. He says my writings and it's just blog posts. There's no books about me. Let's read about me.

Starting point is 01:13:41 Uh, he was born in the promised lands of Texas. Six States later, he ended up in Moscow, Idaho. Can't believe you're in some commie named town. He graduated from the University of Idaho. Man, although I will say if you look at his family, good looking family, but he literally has the girls dressed up in handmaid's tail outfits. This whole thing sounds fixed. It does. Okay. All right, last clip. Watch is a word from Texas. And each year, leading Christian nationalist thinkers, as well as rank and file believers,

Starting point is 01:14:20 gather at a conference. As soon as I walked on campus, someone handed me a glass of whiskey. And I was like, all right, I'm at the Fight Laugh Feast conference now. It's official, it's official. This is Gabe's creation. But one of the ways... Fight Laugh Feast is four days of fundamentalist Christians

Starting point is 01:14:35 talking to Christians about being Christian. One of the gifts that God has given us is to be able to kind of be a place where we could bring like-minded Christians together. So, Jimmy I went. Church anybody? We flew across the country to where Gabe and his compatriots were brainstorming a Christian takeover of America. We're in the northern Kentucky countryside. The landscape is rolling and wooded with lots of farms and of course distilleries. But we're not here just as an excuse to go bourbon tasting. We're here to attend fight, laugh, feast. The theme is the politics of the six days of creation. This, of course,

Starting point is 01:15:13 is the granddaddy of Bible verses, Genesis 1. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. From there, each day, God creates a new facet of the earth. And on the seventh day, he rests. And yeah, Christian nationalists definitely go with he. Creation in six days. Those dirty Christian nationalists. Patriarch. Patriarch. God is a he. no creation in six days a gigantic floating zoo with giraffes sticking their heads out the windows burning bushes donkeys donkeys dragons and unicorns resurrection from the dead yeah we believe all of it oh Oh man, this is so awesome. Well, I'm sure people are shaking in their boots. You really think that works?

Starting point is 01:16:13 Yeah. I don't think, I think what they did wrong is they took it in, they keep saying some backwards and you know, people don't care about that. They care about if it's in Boise. No. No, no. Well. I think you're wrong. That's pretty funny. I think this continues. They went on and on about unicorns actually. I have not had that. I got to ask Pastor Jimmy for the unicorn sermon. Yeah. And then they cited the Bible talks about unicorns X number of times and they

Starting point is 01:16:40 obviously, and these guys are big believers in the unicorn. And it goes on and on again, just after a while. I had to cut it off because it was like ridiculous. But this is a propagandistic technique that they like to use at NPR of creating a bogus world that is a threat to you. And this is very, you know, this is this a little mini cult. Did they do a whole series on the Jews in the tunnels in New York or did this guy not cover that? If you want to do something funny. They probably did.

Starting point is 01:17:15 But the point is that this is like all very subtle to me, subtle anti-Trump propaganda, anti-Republican. It's not so subtle at all. I consider it to be subtle. And if you're a believer of the Democrat side of things and you're listening to this, you're not noticing that you're just appalled. It's to make you appalled and then to make you connected to the... Why are you appalled? Well, because of the patriarchy. And unicorns.

Starting point is 01:17:51 Why are you appalled? Well, it's because these Christian nutcases that are all voting for Trump, they're a threat to democracy. Yeah. The whole thing is really... Meanwhile, Trump is begging them to come out and vote. Please. Seedy. Seedy is a good word. Wow. Well, there seems to be a lack of history of the country the way he's presenting it,

Starting point is 01:18:16 but okay. It is, of course, because they're not teaching anybody anything in schools except gender affirming care. Oh speaking of such and the patriarchy, CBC over there in Scandinavia which of course is our beta test ground. They've introduced a new term to the lexicon. It's not a new term but in this context it was new to me. Good evening we begin tonight with the latest on a murder investigation in the city's West End. A 47-year-old woman is dead after police were called to a home in a rural area early yesterday

Starting point is 01:18:50 evening. Her 55-year-old husband is now charged with second-degree murder. And Ottawa police are calling the murder a femicide, a rare use of the label by the service. Femicide described as the killing of a woman or girl by a man. Femicide. Femicide? Who the killing of a woman or girl by a man. Femicide. Femicide? Who's freeing that in? Well, here's a brief explanation. Police say her death was related to an alleged act of intimate partner violence.

Starting point is 01:19:15 The details determined that it met the criteria for a femicide. Femicide is really about women and girls who are murdered for their gender and usually for misogynistic reasons. Wow. Femicide. But let's call abortion choice and not infanticide. I hate to be doing that, but it's just... It's okay. We're in crazy times, man.

Starting point is 01:19:47 Crazy. It's just crazy. It's crazy town. It's crazy town. I don't know what to make of it. So crazy. Well, let's see. I could make it a little bit crazier by bringing you.

Starting point is 01:20:02 Okay. Here we go. Let's start. Let's just ease into it. Let's ease into it because France is very concerned about their flamingos. Did you, were you aware of France's flamingos? Not at all. Neither was I.

Starting point is 01:20:18 I was very, very surprised about the love of the French flamingos. Shimmering plains and lagoons as far as the eye can see. In the southwesterly corner of France's Mediterranean coastline, these elegant silhouettes streak across the horizon, an iconic part of the landscape. Some 5,000 pink flamingos live in and around these salt marshes, performing their nightly ballet for these delighted tourists,

Starting point is 01:20:44 captivated by the natural spectacle. They're so endearing, their colours, the way they fly and the way they move in a group. Benoit Souffanou has been a nature guide in this region for 12 years. He's an expert in flamingo behaviour. Their diet, small varieties of seaweed, little shrimp, planktonite, are readily available in large quantities and that's what they eat. Yet this diet is part of a delicate balancing act. As global warming causes water levels to rise, the fear is that these plains could flood, submerging the landscape and making it uninhabitable for the birds.

Starting point is 01:21:18 So nothing's happened. The birds are fine, but because of climate change, you could lose your flamingos. Which I guess is the national bird of France. Due to climate change. So due to climate change. This was a beautiful promo that I came across. And it's a special that I must watch. It's from Channel 5 in the UK.

Starting point is 01:21:41 Do you remember 1976 in the UK? What happened in the UK? 1976 in the UK. Do you remember 1976 in the UK? What happened in the UK? 1976 in the UK. And I didn't remember. I was in Holland, so I think I remember this part of that was in Holland too, but Does that something to do with Yoko? Close. In 1976, the UK was one of the hottest places on earth. You never saw a cloud, it was like living in the Mediterranean.

Starting point is 01:22:10 Imagine a summer when Britain ran out of water. Well, the flow of the Thames has now in fact stopped. The perception of England was that it always rained. Temperatures reaching 36 degrees centigrade lasting for 10 long weeks. All of a sudden we were into a parallel universe. And 45 days without a drop of rain. To ask for two solid weeks of rain is like crying for the moon.

Starting point is 01:22:40 That's when we started to take it very seriously. Leading to the most devastating drought for 250 years. The water supply to this area will be interrupted between the hours of 12 noon and 7 pm. I'd taken water for granted all my life. I think it's really dreadful. I mean, it's worse than the war, isn't it? It was, oh my god, this is deep,

Starting point is 01:23:03 the like of which we've never known. But as Brits rose to the challenge. It was, oh my god, this is deep, the like of which we've never known. But as Brits rose to the challenge... I'd never actually bathed with a friend, because I didn't have a friend at the time I fancied enough to have a bath with. For kids, it was a summer that seemed to last forever. And we just played out. I just remember it, yeah, with unalloyed happiness. Were these the most houseyon days in British history? Everyone was stripping off. It was just bliss. Everyone was copping off with absolutely everyone.

Starting point is 01:23:31 But when the weather finally broke... Great flopping of drops of rain. ...ending months of communal standpipes for millions of Brits, society would never be the same again. I mean this is a great report the Thames dried up in 1976 people hadn't there was no water it was worse than the war and the kids loved it they weren't being told to be afraid of climate change and they were taking baths together. Woo! It was great.

Starting point is 01:24:08 No one really talks about the summer of 1976. Now, do they? No, why would they? It makes, it falls out of the timeline that you want. But something happened. This happened again in the 80s, because I remember going to England with Mimi, and the, it was another

Starting point is 01:24:26 one of these weird droughts. I'm going to say 1980 itself maybe. Maybe it was really... It could be, but whatever the case, it probably wasn't 1980. It must have been later. But Hyde Park was dead, dead. The grass was all brown. It was all, it was just like 76 problem. This happens a lot. It's called summer. It's called summer. By the way, it's the red jungle fowl

Starting point is 01:24:57 or the Gallic rooster that is the national bird of France. Oh, thank you. Good to know. as the national bird of France. Oh, thank you. Good to know. I'm going to stick with the UK because there was there's a video that's gone viral in the in the UK. And when I say viral, I mean, millions of views on TikTok.

Starting point is 01:25:15 So I'm surprised it didn't show up in your algo. Reposted everywhere. Millions of views on X. Have you seen a day in the life of an Englishman? No. So you have to kind of get into it

Starting point is 01:25:27 because it's obviously a Brit. So he uses a bit of slang and a bit of language. He's walking around doing a typical selfie stick walk through the streets of London. Then he is going to explain a typical day. It's like an update of the Beatles day in the life only different Let's tell you a little story. All right, sit back relax and enjoy It's called a day in the life of an Englishman now picture this you're in London

Starting point is 01:25:54 It costs more than you earn to live here. So you slowly accumulate in debt. You can't afford a holiday So you're addicted to drugs just to fucking escape your life The weather's shit the people that live here are even shitter and they hate each other with a passion and you can't afford to leave. There's homeless people all over the place. The shops are boarded up because of COVID. Anyway, you wake up one morning to find out your taxes going up because Labour's in. And this is after you Les, the cost of living crisis, energy prices, interest rates have all eaten that last little bit of extra money you had left over each month from your wage and your outgoings so now you're proper fucked and while you're sat there on the toilet in the morning

Starting point is 01:26:28 reading tweets from the metropolitan police about online trolls and how they upset them a SWAT team smashes through your bathroom window straight past you on the shitter and goes into your 11 year old son's bedroom and arrests him for shouting at a police officer then your sister rings her she's recently got fired from her job as a doctor for refusing to ask biological men if they're pregnant. And she tells her that your grandma's just frozen to death because Keir Starmer gave her a winter allowance to a country on the other side of the planet that's wealthier than us to help them with climate change. Oh yeah. It's all getting a little bit much anyway. And you think, you know what I'll do? I'll nip off for a pint

Starting point is 01:27:04 to relax. Maybe I'll sit in the beer garden and have a fag but while you're doing that you get barred because that's illegal now So you decide you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go for a walk to clear my head morning And while you're on your walk clearing your head you get stabbed to death Yes Violently just walking around the city Then the guardian plasters your face all over the news for randomly jumping on a perfectly good night 54 times that was held by a choir boy then your sister's enraged by this so she tweets about it she gets Nick your son comes out of prison all right and he

Starting point is 01:27:37 decides I'm gonna protest it cuz me dad's dead but this time he shouts at a police horse and he gets Nick for that but the prisons are too full so they let out Ian Huntley to put him in now the mad thing about this tale is it doesn't even sound far-fetched anymore, does it? It's perfectly believable. I'll tell you why, because it's all based on true events. This is our story. This is fucking England. It's bad when you look at it from that perspective. And I didn't believe the, my friend, Michelle, he's been a pub guy, owner of pubs and clubs for as long as I've known him when I lived in Guilford.

Starting point is 01:28:17 And I mean, he doesn't even text me anymore. He's so depressed because his clubs are closed. They're bringing in regulations for how much you can charge for alcohol or I think actually going to charge extra for alcohol so that it becomes less desirable to buy alcohol. And I didn't... I had to go to a pub for... Of course. But and people go to pubs and then they have their beer garden, as you said, and you go out and saw it, have a fag, which is British for cigarettes. And indeed they're going to ban this. Here is the new Prime Minister of the UK. My starting point on this is to remind everyone that over 80,000 people lose their lives every year because of smoking.

Starting point is 01:29:07 That's a preventable death, it's a huge burden on the NHS and of course it's a burden on the taxpayer. So yes, we are going to take decisions in this space, more details will be revealed but this is a preventable series of deaths and we've got to take the action to reduce the burden on the action to reduce the burden on the NHS and reduce the burden on the taxpayer. You said when you became Prime Minister you wanted politics to tread more lightly on people's lives this is the opposite isn't it? I think it's important to get the balance right but everybody watching this who uses the NHS will know that it's on its knees.

Starting point is 01:29:43 We have to relieve the burden and that's why I spoke before the election about moving to a preventative model when it comes to health. I want the NHS back on its feet but I also want it fit for the next 75 years just as we've had a brilliant 75 years already and that means taking action in relation to preventable deaths. And these are 80,000 a year preventable deaths. You know, when I was in the UK in 2005, the NHS was on its knees. You had to wait six to nine months just for an MRI. This is not good what's going on there.

Starting point is 01:30:23 And you just got to wonder, are the British people just taking it? Or are they gonna rise up again? Or is that all just Tommy Robinson lore? Is he the only one doing this? You're asking the wrong guy. And then there's the new one. And I think this, and it's rolled out to Australia, the right to disconnect.

Starting point is 01:30:42 Have you heard of this? This is a new one. Nope, you got me flat-footed once again, twice in one show. Okay, I'll play the Australian clip first because it explains it in a little more detail and then I'll play the UK clip. The ACTU is pushing to strengthen right to disconnect laws being introduced by the Albanese government. The union is requesting the Fair Work Commission to insert the laws into awards arguing employers should be held accountable for proper staffing. It's proposing a further two factors be taken into account, whether the employees on

Starting point is 01:31:16 leave or another authorised absence. So you have the right to disconnect, meaning your employer cannot pester you, which is a problem, but you know, to make this a law and oh no, you can't, you cannot talk to me after five o'clock. And from what Nigel Farage says, this appears to be happening in the UK as well. A wonderful new prime minister is telling you, you can do plenty of work from home and you can't be contacted outside office hours, otherwise you might be subject to thousands of pounds in compensation.

Starting point is 01:31:51 You shouldn't be working after five o'clock. And all of this will boost productivity. Let me tell you, this is a complete load of cobblers. If you want to do well in life and succeed, believe me, you've got to work hard. You've got to work damned hard. You've got to be prepared to get out of your house, meet people, do stuff, and if necessary, work late into the evening. It's up to you. You want to be successful? Work hard. You want to fail? Listen to our Prime Minister. You know, this can only lead to universal basic income as far as I'm concerned.

Starting point is 01:32:27 It has to. I don't know about the connection there. I don't know what the point of it is. I mean, when I was working at an oil refinery where you worked shift work, where you'd work one week of days. Were you on one of the islands? Were you on the drilling islands? where you worked shift work, where you'd work one week of days. Were you on one of the islands? Were you on the drilling islands? It was up here in Rodeo at the Union Oil Refinery.

Starting point is 01:32:51 Oh, okay. And you would work overtime sometimes. There would be a lot of... And sometimes they'd call you at home to tell you, can you come in because we need somebody for some reason or other. You just never answered the phone. You're in bed, sleeping. Well, like now, for example, I don't have a phone anywhere near the bedroom. I know. I can't... So you want to call me, I'm in bed. No one's picking up. So what's... how does that not work to keep you disconnected if you want to be.

Starting point is 01:33:28 Well, that's why you missed my surprise birthday party. Tina was calling you and you were just ignoring the phone. She never called me once. You were ignoring, how do you know? She never called me. How do you know? How do you know? You'd never heard it. You just, you were in bed. Well, I have a phone. If she, if she called during the day, the working hours, I pick it up.

Starting point is 01:33:42 There you go, working hours. It's called a landline. It's called a landline, people. Nobody even knows what that is anymore. Bring out the tech grouch, everybody. Where is he? It's Bakelite. Oh, no, I have it right here. Watch it turn it, leave itself on that.

Starting point is 01:33:58 The only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite. Bakelite. Bakelite. You should keep it. You should keep it. You should keep it out of bakelite. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Oh, you don't need Carlos to do it. It's all you. It's all it's all personal somebody produced the whole thing as a piece. I Need I need a videographer I mean I I could do it myself, but I'm not gonna do that. It's you know me I'm still hoping you get the microphones done by Christmas. No, I'm sure you're not gonna you're not gonna bring back I'll talk about that after this when we do our

Starting point is 01:34:40 You're not going to bring back. Yeah, I'll talk about that after this, when we do our later. Well, let's. The microphone problem is like, I'm not so sure that that company that appears to be making the microphones that we're trying to OEM is the company. Oh, man, this is this is going to be another failed exit. The whole party, everyone's talking about, hey, man, I hear you guys got an exit strategy with microphones.

Starting point is 01:35:10 Mark Hall's from Mark Hall actually bought, he gave me as a gift a Neumann replica made in, I'm sure it's from China, but maybe it was Brazil or something. It looks exactly like the big Neumann, you know, the $8,000 Neumann. Yeah. It's beautiful. I have one of those myself. Do they sell any? It was handmade by somebody who put it together. Children.

Starting point is 01:35:38 It has the telefunken logo on it. No, this... The original U-47 is what we're talking about. Yes, that's the one. The big one. It's a big giant tube mic. The one they have at NPR or at Crooked Media. Crooked Media maybe, but no NPR.

Starting point is 01:35:59 The ones we're going to put stickers on when they go out of business because of their union contract. Good luck. Hey, no union contract here, but I would like to say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the Curry Devorak Microphone Company, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. Devorak. Actually, it's Curry Devorak Audio Products. Oh, I'm sorry. Audio products.

Starting point is 01:36:26 Let's get that straight. All right. In the morning to you, Mr. Adam. Curry also in the morning, all the ships to sea boosts the graphite in the air subs in the water that dames the nights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Hello there trolls. So thank you very much.

Starting point is 01:36:34 Who posted that? Cotton Gin. Cotton Gin, keep doing that. I like that. We had a peak of 2274 in the troll room. We had a peak of 2274 in the troll room. We had a peak of 2274 in the troll room. We had a peak of 2274 in the troll room.

Starting point is 01:36:42 We had a peak of 2274 in the troll room. We had a peak of 2274 in the troll room. We had a peak of 2274 in the troll room. We had a peak of 2274 in the troll room. We had a peak of 2274 in the troll room. We had a peak of 2274 in the troll room. We had a peak of 2274 in the troll room. So thank you very much. Who posted that? Cotton Jinn. Cotton Jinn keep doing that. I like that. We had a peak of 2274 in the troll room. It's dropped down to 2118. Cotton Jinn, I'd like you to do that every single time so I can know. What do you do? Well, he gave me the peak listen moment of the show. Oh.

Starting point is 01:37:02 Which is kind of cool. It's nice. Yeah, I like that. It is kind of cool. He does a graph. He has a graph. He has a graph. A graph. Yeah, he has a chart, a graph. And you can look at it.

Starting point is 01:37:10 Now he's gotta take it to the next level, which is have arrows at the different points in the chart saying, talked about this, talked about that. So we can know. Talked about this so we can see when you bring some of your topics up and you see the dip, we'll know the reason why. And how come it's when I bring some of my topics up, not when you bring some of your topics up and you see the dip, we'll know the reason why. And how come it's when I bring some of my topics up, not when you bring some of your topics up?

Starting point is 01:37:28 Yes. Okay. So the trolls are in the Troll Room, which you can join at trollroom.io or you can participate live. This is a fantastic invention of Podcasting 2.0. You get one of those modern podcast apps. I use Podcast Guru because it does video, does all kinds of stuff. And it does live as well. So you get alerted when we send out the batch signal at the beginning of the show. And then all you have to do is tap it and then boom, you got the stream live and you can listen in. It's the same app that you don't have to use a different app. You don't have to

Starting point is 01:38:00 go to a different website or something like that, even though you can, if you don't use podcast apps, you've got to wonder what you're listening to the show on. Just a thought. Do you use a podcast app? No, I listen to everything on the web. Interesting. Why? I mean, do you just go direct to their website or do you? I go to the website.

Starting point is 01:38:26 Yes. Hmm. Almost, yes, I go to the website. Sometimes I end up on Apple. So Apple just released podcast.apple.com. So you can now use the Apple podcasts on the website, which you used to be able to do, but now they've upgraded it. the Apple podcasts on the website, which used to be able to do, but now they've upgraded it. So it's even worse, which is phenomenal how they did that. It's even worse.

Starting point is 01:38:54 It is worse. I don't know. Those guys. I feel for that team. Why don't they hire you for a short one month stint as a consultant to bring their quality up to par. No, no, why would they get it for free? They just listen to the podcasting 2.0 board meeting every Friday. Nobody thinks like that. No, they do. Believe me, there's people from the Apple team. That doesn't mean they shouldn't hire you for a one month stint.

Starting point is 01:39:24 Okay, first of all, I would never do that because I'm unhireable and no one really wants to hear what I have. The last time I talked to someone on Apple podcast, the guy laughed at me and then he quit. He was running the show over there. Do you want to get rid of some employees, ladies and gentlemen? Bring in Adam Curry, hire Adam. Riddison employees, ladies and gentlemen. Bringing Adam Curry. Hire Adam. No, actually, I like the team over there,

Starting point is 01:39:48 but this is not a profit center for Apple. They lose money on the team. It's called a loss leader. It makes money in a different sort of way. Right. So it's all about the experience. So they added transcripts, which we- Did they have Joy?

Starting point is 01:40:04 Oh, they they you know what I'd love to be in the Apple Joy Division if I can be there I'm open for business people yeah Joy Boy will call you okay let me write that down it's another good I like Joy Division but Joy Boy Joy Boy Joy Boy yes oh you know what that's it no agenda hi I'm a no agenda joy boy. See, it's on my t-shirt. So we, uh, we do not participate in programs like, um, what is it? Uh, Patreon where you have all kinds of levels and you have to use apps to subscribe and by the way, did you see the, the, the Wall Street Journal article about podcasting?

Starting point is 01:40:50 Would you like to hear one paragraph on pertinent? I would like you to yes. Yes. Okay. Podcasts used to be ad light Oasis. Not anymore. Now I don't. What? What? Add what? Add light L I G H T. So light don't. What? What? Add what? Add light, L-I-G-H-T. So light on ads. Light.

Starting point is 01:41:08 They were oases of light, lightness of ads. Very, just a sprinkling of ads, you know, like use code BONGINO. Yeah, there is. Yeah. Well, apparently not anymore. No. No.

Starting point is 01:41:20 Ads in the second quarter of this year took up an average of how much you think of podcast runtime. What percentage of the year took up an average of how much do you think of podcast runtime? What percentage of the podcast? Well, out of an hour? Can I just give a percentage out of an hour? Ads? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:41:34 Well, in the old light days, it would be five minutes an hour maybe. I would say now it would be, I would say 10 minutes max. No, no, no, no. no. It's not that bad. It's 11%. Well, 10.9% of podcasts run times. So in this show, which is 180 minutes, you'd have 18 minutes of ads. Well, considering what you have on a radio station, which is 18 minutes per hour. Yeah, 18 minutes to 20. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:42:07 20 minutes an hour, I would say. Yes. Yes, that's still light. And we're moving, of course, more in that direction with inserted... You know, did I tell you that TuneIn, you know TuneIn, the app TuneIn? Yeah, you already bitched about this. Okay, well then I won't bitch about it anymore. In 2024, how much do you think podcasters collected in ad revenue per hour of programming per listener?

Starting point is 01:42:35 Oh, per hour per listener, I would say a dollar. Six cents. Six cents. A dollar. Six cents. Six cents. Six cents. So they're ruining everyone's experience for six. When you listen to a podcast that has ads, the value they place on you is six cents. Good luck, slave.

Starting point is 01:43:02 We however, run no ads, so we value you highly. This is interesting because network TV is always usually budgeted at a dollar per person, per viewer. So if you have 10 million viewers. Is that network or cable? Network. If you have 10 million viewers of NCIS, your budget is $10 million. Wow.

Starting point is 01:43:28 Well, I think that just with these numbers, you're just going to see more ads in podcasts. There's no other way. And the thing that they all forget is that it's unlimited inventory. You're not limited like radio by 24 hours. So there's no way you can create, what is the term I'm looking for? That's the problem, the unlimited inventory aspect to it. Yeah, you can't create scarcity, that's the term.

Starting point is 01:43:57 You can't create artificial scarcity. No you can't, you just go longer. Yes, just two more ads. Anyway, we decided that was never going to be for us. And not because of the money. We just didn't want to do any, just didn't want to, no, we didn't want to do any, any meetings. It's a pain in the ass.

Starting point is 01:44:14 Yes. So instead we decided to go value for value, which we coined the term and we, I mean, it wasn't that hard to figure out, but it was kind of a, we didn't just, we discovered it more than invented it. It's like, hey, if you, if you ask people to just send you whatever they think it's worth, it's much better because people don't feel a need. They can do it whenever they want. That means it's a roller coaster for us, but we're here almost 17 years.

Starting point is 01:44:42 We're still hanging in there by our fingernails. We're hanging in. I'm glad I have a birthday. Got a lot of 60 donations today, which I'm very happy. I can't wait to read them and thank everybody. And we also say you can just hit us with time, talent or treasure. And that's the beauty of our podcast. It's really about the producers. You're not listeners, you're producers. It is your job to produce the program, which means keep it going financially, but also add your talents. And people have a lot of talent. People have a lot of information. Actually, this is a special donation segment, Boots on the

Starting point is 01:45:18 Ground. We had asked, these reports are out there saying, Oh, 33 nurses died suddenly. Well, we know that we had asked these reports are out there saying, oh, 33 nurses died suddenly. Well, we know that we have a lot of people working as nurses, registered nurses, doctors, all kinds of people who work in the field. And I have a quick boots on the ground from Leaf, who is a nurse. Adam, I'm a nurse on a sustaining donation. Thank you. So delivering time, talent and treasure. And I have not seen a recent sudden die off of nurses. However, what I have seen is an absolute explosion of POTS, which I was not familiar with this term. I thought it was plain old television, telephone system, but it stands for postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome among my young female co-workers. Have you ever heard of this? No. And neither had I. He explains, it's a syndrome meaning its cause

Starting point is 01:46:16 is not well understood, but has to do with autonomic cardiovascular regulation. The rates among the under 25 females is probably 10% on a syndrome that is supposed to be 0.2%. It's a diagnosis of exclusion, so it takes a while to diagnose. Once you rule out everything else, you get diagnosed based on the symptoms. Also, the viral diabetes thing, type one, is usually triggered by a viral infection.

Starting point is 01:46:43 We aren't really sure why. So there is something going on. It's not that they're dying off in great numbers, but 10% of this syndrome doesn't sound good. No, not when it was supposed to be 0.02. Yeah. So we are thinking. I wonder what changed in society. Ah, you know know it's... It's probably... it's plastics. Could it be micro plastics in the diet?

Starting point is 01:47:12 I got it. You got it what? Climate change. There you go. Due to climate change. Due to climate change. Perfect. All right. So that's one way you can support us. Another way is... well, our artists, our artists always provide us multiple pieces of artwork to choose from to put in the in the album art for every single show. We think it's useful and fun. It's just another fun thing to do instead of having AI write up some crappy description of what they talked about in the show. You know AI does that for us When I do the transcript another podcasting 2.0 invention AI will then that we use otter.ai or that's what I you know, the one that can't get your name, right?

Starting point is 01:47:58 Keeps calling you John C. J H and S I only Indian. Yes So it'll do a summary of the show. So here's the summary from the last show. Tell me if you'd like to put this into our description. The conversation covers various topics, including the upcoming interview with Kamala Harris, the arrest of Telegram founder Pavel Durov, and the political dynamics surrounding Donald Trump. They discuss the challenges of free speech on platforms like X controlled by Linda Iaccarino and the potential influence of Saudi money, which I don't think we ever mentioned.

Starting point is 01:48:38 The conversation also touches on the impact of climate change on mosquito populations and the spread of diseases like Eastern equine encephalitis. Additionally, they analyzed the legal implications of the superseding indictment against Trump, emphasizing the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity and the challenges for special counsel Jack Smith improving Trump's actions were unofficial. I wouldn't turn that podcast on in a million years. That sounds horrible. Because we do it with pizzazz and with humor and with jokes. Yup. Yup.

Starting point is 01:49:11 So no, we'd rather have a funny piece of art and people go, Oh, let me see what these guys are doing. Let's see what those guys are up to. So I know, right? You can't say it's wrong. No, it's not wrong, but it's, that's not marketing. That's, that's anti-marketing. It's like it's not wrong, but that's not marketing. That's anti-marketing.

Starting point is 01:49:26 It's like, do not tune into this. Whatever you do, it's boring. So not boring was Francine. Actually, there's an interesting... You're making an interesting point about the boring. So at its base level, AI is dull. Yes, humorless. Well, of course dull. Yes. Humorless. Well, of course it has to be humorless because the humor, artificial humor, you need artificial

Starting point is 01:49:52 humor somehow. When AI can write jokes that are genuinely funny. Give us a call. Give us a call. Yeah, that'd be good. When you can write jokes. So instead, we come up with a funny title like corn sweat, which neither of us had heard of.

Starting point is 01:50:08 A lot of people in the Midwest were like, hey man, corn sweat is a real deal, man. All right, gotcha. You never told us about it before. Yeah, right now. And then we choose a beautiful, I thought great piece of art from Francisco Scaramanga, which was the kind of Elvira-esque cheesecake lady, spray painting, no agenda, zero impact, which is what we claim to have on society.

Starting point is 01:50:36 Zero impact in graffiti style, or as you would say, graffiti. And we both liked it. We both thought it was a good piece. Well, it was funny because it was a fallback on the fact that we couldn't really come up with anything. I mean, most of the art was corn sweat. Yeah, which just didn't work. Sloth fever was, we didn't really talk about sloth fever one clip maybe.

Starting point is 01:51:07 Yeah, sloth fever was no good. No, it was no good. It was just a rough go in terms of the art. It was. It was. Sir Shug, Faux Diddley did the molasses of subversion, which we looked at, but it wasn't really a great piece as a product shot. I saw you use the free podcast sign from Darren as the newsletter artwork. It was good. I like that piece. Nessworks did the Politics of Joy, which wasn't compelling. I actually like Darren's Curry Devorak Girls. I'm not big on the cheesecake, but for some reason.

Starting point is 01:51:46 For who is this? It's the two girls, one saying, both wearing No Agenda t-shirts, one saying Curry, one saying Dvorak. It was actually kind of good. Yeah. A lot of corn sweat stuff. What else was there? Black Joy, Comics Your Blogger, Prompt Jockey Extraordinaire, Peanut Butter, No Agockey extraordinaire. No, um, peanut butter, no agenda, peanut butter.

Starting point is 01:52:07 Why? None of that really hit us. Did it? Was it really? No. Yeah. And then, and then you looked at it was just, it was a good piece. The Scaramanga thing, it stood out, you know, green.

Starting point is 01:52:20 Oh, I kind of liked Tontanil's tools that didn't work, but it didn't work. It didn't work. No, it's too confusing. It was something confusing about it. Yeah. Hammer with no hammerhead, screwdriver with no shaft, saw with no blade. We got the idea. It just didn't quite work.

Starting point is 01:52:44 So thank you, Francisco Scaramanga for bringing us that. Who hates us by the way. I don't know why he contributes so hard. It doesn't make sense. It's a love hate relationship, man. You know, he's just trying. I see John G. Dew came in late with the Swiss army surrender, which probably wouldn't

Starting point is 01:53:00 have been chosen, but at least he tried to do a Swiss army knife with no blade. Yes. But you know what? We appreciate all of it. All of it. I like the, I like the, I like the piece with the, instead of a blade, you have a surrender flag. Yes.

Starting point is 01:53:14 But it's cute. It's cute. But the Curry de Vorac is not right. No agenda off center. Yeah. Too small. Yeah. We're very discerning here.

Starting point is 01:53:25 We're horrible. I don't know about that. We're kind of horrible. But we take the moment to become art directors. Yes. And all these artists know that art directors are all a-holes. And we play it to a tee, ladies and gentlemen. So along with that, we also have Treasure. We'd like to thank our executive producers and associate executive producers. So the way, now anybody can support the show with any amount. In fact, we have a layaway night and a layaway dame.

Starting point is 01:54:00 So both who have been just supporting the show with whatever amount they choose on whatever regular basis they choose. I've been doing that for a while. So both of them will be joining the round table getting that beautiful knight and or Dame ring. But in the case of the executive producers per show, if you're $200 or above, you get an associate executive producer title, and we read your note $300 and above executive producer, and we read your note, $300 and above, executive producer and we read your note as well and you get a credit, which is a real credit. You can use it anywhere. You can put it on your LinkedIn profile.

Starting point is 01:54:31 It'll be recognized as such by anyone who's a Hollywood douchebag or you know, it impresses people some places. And if there's any question, you can say, oh yeah, look at my imdb.com. It's real. Oh, okay. And you'll see some real Hollywood names in there as well, which you can point out. And so let's thank them right now. Now I'm looking at this first donation, which is Beldreklame in the town of Irika, which now neither of this sounds right.

Starting point is 01:55:09 So this is a Dutch donation $333.33. Let me see because it says see the email. But I don't have this email. Have you seen this email? No, I wouldn't be able to read it if I did. It says Z email now Adam from Quirano at Erica on Quirano. So it's from someone named Quirano. Let me double check, make sure I'm not missing this. No, I don't have anything. And it was sent to you specifically. Oh wait, no, I have Quirano here.

Starting point is 01:55:34 Here, what's this? Hold on a second. When did this come in? Oh, did this come in Friday? Here we go. Oh, okay. So this is all in Dutch. So I'll just have to read it in Dutch.

Starting point is 01:55:46 Beigesloot en link die vraagteken set. Nou ja, vraagtekens, de aanslag op Trump. Check deze video. Dit is mijn tip of de kwartaal. Gaan jullie doneren voor mijn cameraat van Leeuwen? Shout out to Mickey van Leeuwen. Ik ga zo doneren en producer worden. Graag triple China is asshole.

Starting point is 01:56:03 Okay. And it says, we understood that one, didn't we? Okay. All right. Donate and become a producer. I'd like to triple China is asshole. And Quirano Martin, that's his name, soon to be Knight of the Flatherlands, he says. He's celebrating his birthday on September 6th, so I think that's a show day. So we can send in a note and we'll make sure, send a note in English so we can make sure we get you on the list. And thank you very much for your support of the No Agenda Show. Sir Loudpipes is in Charlotte, North Carolina. He comes in with the same amount, 333.33.

Starting point is 01:56:46 And he says, happy birthday, Adam. Thank you. And then he said, then he signs off with Sir Loudpipes, the baron of Mecklenburg County. No agenda is your exit strategy from the insanity. We're going to die spitting in the mics. I wash my thing off once in a while in the dishwasher. A tip. Oh, you, your, your spit screen, your windscreen. Yeah. It's one of the metal ones, the best kind instead of, you know, there's

Starting point is 01:57:16 others, there's certain kinds of spit screens, but this is really a killer. It's a good one, but it does get. Nasty. Yeah. It needs to get washed once in a while in the dishwasher. 333.33 from Jason Edmonds in Johnson City, Tennessee. Hey, Adam and John, I regret that it took me this long to get off the douchebag rolls. So I'm starting down my path to knighthood. I got hit in the mouth by my buddy Spencer back in the spring and I haven't missed a show since. I regret that I didn't know about you in 2020,

Starting point is 01:57:45 but better late than never. Gentlemen, thank you for your courage and for slowing down the shrinking of my amygdala. Please, censor Spencer, some baby-making karma, and if you wouldn't mind, could you please de-douche me? Well, sure. You've been de-douched. You've been de-douche-ed.

Starting point is 01:58:06 You've got... Karma. Alright. Sir Chris Beaverton, Oregon, 222.33 is Associate Executive Producer. Uh, Sir Chris of Cascadia here, I just need stereo luge goat karma. Please keep up the good work you've got Scott Porter in Frisco Texas 21060 was just up there in Frisco Adam and John thank you for the show my mother is and had a nasty fall last Friday resulting in a very serious head injury. I humbly request health and healing karma aimed her way so she will make a speedy recovery.

Starting point is 01:58:53 Yes, here it comes for your mom. You've got karma. Everybody pray for mom. Eli the Coffee Guy, Bensonville, Illinois, 20901. Happy birthday, Adam, and happy Labor Day to all those. That's right, it's Labor Day. It's Labor Day weekend. To all those in Gitmo Nation. I'll be smoking a brisket in Illinois. Okay, getting the right brisket to smoke if you're going to do one is what takes the work. I'll be smoking a brisket using a brown sugar coffee rub. Coffee rubs are not unusual. Producers should visit gigawattcofferoasters.com and use code

Starting point is 01:59:33 ITM for 20% off your coffee order because coffee is not only good for drinking but makes a mean barbecue rub. There are recipes online. Uh, stay caffeinated. Eli, the coffee guy. You know, Tina, she sometimes does a rub on the tri tip and she actually uses gigawatt coffee, uh, espresso and it's, it's really good. And she does it with, with a brown shirt. I'm sure that it's all wrong according to you, but I like what she does. I never said that. No, but typically you're like that you typically just would will poo poo it

Starting point is 02:00:09 But if you'd showed up to my sense of when huh if you had showed up to my birthday party You could have had some Dite well, you can always ship me some Sandra Ferreira is in Brooklyn, New York. Ah, enemy territory. $200. Happy birthday, Adam. Thank you for always making me laugh, John. Please send some jobs karma our way, says Sandra, and we're happy to do so.

Starting point is 02:00:35 Stand by. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. Last on the list is, Linda Lu Patkin she's here again once again in Lakewood Colorado and she says she wants jobs karma for a resident she wants to mention that for a resume that gets results visit English English I was gonna try to get through quick but I couldn't. For a resume that gets results, visit ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search

Starting point is 02:01:11 needs. That's ImageMakersInc. Okay. And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. Congrats on having your hair, Adam. Thank you, Linda Liu. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. That's both for jobs.

Starting point is 02:01:30 She reads the newsletter. Yeah, it's very funny. Very funny, yes, she does read the newsletter. Thank you to our executive and associate executive producers. There are more people to thank in our second segment. $50 and above, we will read your donation and your name and your location.

Starting point is 02:01:46 And there's a lot of people sent in $60, so I'll be looking forward to thanking all of them. And of course, under $50, we don't make any mention of that for reasons of anonymity. Also, you can set up your sustaining donation, which most people do under $50. You can do $50 or like Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Duke of Luna, $8.008 every single show. I mean, that's fine. We love that. Everyone should consider doing that in addition to any extra donations you throw our way.

Starting point is 02:02:11 It is all very much appreciated. Keep the show going for another four more years. NoagendaDonations.com. Thank you again to our associate executive producers, the executive producers for this episode. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth well I hate to say it but they're ratcheting it, but they're ratcheting it up, John.

Starting point is 02:02:45 They're ratcheting it up. They've been ratcheting it up. No, but this is the new new. This is the new thing. And for this, we go back to my old stomping grounds of New Jersey. It's bad, people. It's very, very bad. Two deaths from the West Nile virus are now being reported in southern New Jersey, one

Starting point is 02:03:02 in Mercer County, another in Cumberland County. Meanwhile, New York City, seeing a surge in cases, 10 people have now being reported in southern New Jersey, one in Mercer County, another in Cumberland County. Meanwhile, New York City seeing a surge in cases, 10 people have now been confirmed infected. There are 10 other cases around New York State. And with people headed outdoors this holiday weekend, Governor Hokel reminding everyone to be careful, use a spray repellent to protect yourself against mosquitoes, possibly carrying West Nile. Next week New York City plans to resume mosquito spraying in Queens and Manhattan. Yeah so that's just that's a light version of it but despite the spraying two people died in New Jersey now we have to bring in some some new terms for the triple E the Eastern equine encephalitis it's the stuff that makes your brain swell and burst out of your head

Starting point is 02:03:45 Of course, we know what causes this Well this week a New Hampshire man died of eastern equine encephalitis or triple E after being bit by a mosquito US health officials are warning that cases of mosquito-borne diseases like triple E and West Nile are on the rise this year Especially in the Northeast hotter temperatures more severe weather events and piles of plastic trash have created environments where mosquitoes thrive, allowing insects to reach areas formerly inhospitable to them. For example, dengue cases are rising in Europe, where the disease used to actually be quite rare. The number of European countries with a self-sustaining population of a mosquito breed known to carry dengue fever has grown from 8 to 13 in the last decade. And it's not just that

Starting point is 02:04:32 diseases are spreading to new areas. Mosquito season is also getting longer because of climate change. A 2023 study by the nonprofit Climate Central found that 173 locations across the U.S. have seen an increase in the number of mosquito days. The average increase for those locations is 16 days, but some areas in the country have had their mosquito days actually extended by much longer. These 10 cities have seen at least an extra month of days that are favorable to mosquitoes. So it's all of course because of climate change.

Starting point is 02:05:04 Due to climate change. But we have the new term, mosquito days. How many mosquito days this year? I like that. I like mosquito days. It's a new metric. Yeah, it's a new metric. Yeah, and it's up a number of percentage points.

Starting point is 02:05:18 Yeah, number, just quite a number. And we need to make it a little, we need to kind of bring that home for people and give them a little more visual. NBC Today show is great at doing these things. For those heading to a lake for Labor Day, be on high alert. Mosquitoes look for still fresh water and be sure to apply a deep based insect repellent on top of your sunscreen.

Starting point is 02:05:42 In Missouri, John Proctor wishes his family had known about the danger of mosquito-borne illnesses. His 18-year-old son, known as BB, has a long road to recovery. He's on a ventilator paralyzed from the neck down after contracting West Nile virus from a mosquito bite his dad believes he got while playing with their dog in the backyard. It's hard to fathom how such a small, horror story, insignificant creature can take a perfectly, 100% healthy human being,

Starting point is 02:06:14 and it just causing havoc on his body that fast. It only takes one mosquito to get you. Ah, it only takes one mosquito to get you. One mosquito. How many is that? Well, you had the one guy in New Hampshire, which they keep talking about. Yeah, the two in New Jersey. And now this kid, poor kid.

Starting point is 02:06:31 So we have four out of a population of 350 million. What's the percentage of that? Be afraid. Be afraid. If that doesn't scare you, oh, please. We've got plenty more where that came from, NBC. So we're heading into the holiday weekend and a special guest no one wants on their travels is coming along anyway. I'm talking about COVID.

Starting point is 02:06:47 COVID! Despite COVID cases surging, hospitalizations up in almost every state and deaths double what they were in the spring, we still seem to be hitting a stride of COVID normalcy with some travelers even opting not to test. COVID normalcy? So COVID doesn't disrupt their trips. Some? Oh no, these horrible travelers opting not to test so COVID doesn't disrupt their trips. Some, oh no, these horrible travelers opting not to test. So COVID doesn't disrupt it. I hope everybody tested before they came

Starting point is 02:07:10 to my surprise birthday party. It could have been a super spreader event. Bring in Dr. John Torres. Dr. Torres, why the rise right now? Is it mostly fueled by all the travel that we're doing? Or is this new strain kind of really contagious or both? Oh both, leading the witness. This is not the guest you want to travel with or travel to.

Starting point is 02:07:28 But I think what's happening here is kind of a confluence of a couple different things. Number one, the variant is changing and we know the variants can continue to change, but in this case, it's changing to one that's more contagious. Luckily, it's not more deadly and that's the good news behind that. But on top of that, certain things are happening now that we haven't had happen over the last year and a half or so. You know, people aren't caring as much about getting COVID, they aren't testing as much, they aren't getting vaccinated, it's a little bit delayed, and they're certainly not wearing masks or anything like that. So, you know, that whole factor, all those added together, I think are causing this rise here. But by far the biggest

Starting point is 02:08:01 one is that variant changing to a more contagious status which is going to happen continuing as we go on here. Oh yeah, as we go on, it's continuing to change. So yeah, well could you give me a tip? Like Noah Jenner gives me a tip of the day, gives me some good products to use, give me some interesting information. Could you give me a tip for the travel? In terms of travel, what steps should people be taking to safely enjoy their time away instead of the sort of like out of sight, out of mind mentality when it comes to getting the virus? Oh, stay safe everybody. You know, I think that's an important thing to bring up. You know, number one, the virus is still the virus. The virus is still the

Starting point is 02:08:36 virus. Can you continue to do things that's done? Right now, we're seeing higher cases than we've seen in the last year and a half. But like I mentioned, it's more contagious, but likely it's not more deadly, but it still is a deadly virus and people still end up in the hospital and dying from it. Hold on a second. It's not deadly, but it still could be deadly. Maybe it's deadly.

Starting point is 02:08:55 Do you know anyone who's had COVID at this moment in time? At this hour? Actually, I do. Yes? JC, Jesse, and Theodore all have COVID. Are they dying? Well, they're not happy. Well tell them not to travel to test and wear masks.

Starting point is 02:09:11 He got it because he went to Montreal for some event and then got it on the way back on a bus ride. The most jabbed country in the world. Yeah, and everyone got sick on the bus, everybody. He brought it here locally and then gave it to the kid and his wife. Good work. He's patient zero. He's patient zero for the Bay Area.

Starting point is 02:09:33 Now, there's a variety of reasons people aren't getting the vaccines. There's a variety of reasons people aren't masking or testing. It's because they're horrible people. But those are things that still work. You know, the vaccine, granted, it's too late to get it for this weekend, but you definitely want to get it for the fall season coming up. Definitely. Because it's a new variant out there. Masking, I always carry mine. The last couple of flights I've had, I've worn it the entire flight because people are coughing and hacking around me. I certainly don't want to get COVID or certainly don't want to spread it to them.

Starting point is 02:10:00 I wore a mask. I'm a good man. I'm a good man and I wore a mask the whole flight. And then think about that social distance that we used to do. If you're sick, social distance, especially if there's somebody that's vulnerable in the place you're going to, Christine. He's the, he's Dr. John over at the NBC Today Show. You can't stop talking, he's a chatterbox.

Starting point is 02:10:19 But wait, just when you thought it couldn't get even better than this, the miracle cure just got more miraculous. Let's talk treatments. We're learning from some new studies that weight loss drugs like Wigovia might actually help prevent COVID deaths. What do we know about that? This is amazing. I mean, would you have a hang nail? Ozempic. And this is one that's surprising a lot of people because it's not a result that has been expected. But what they found out in the large Wigoby trial, 17,000 people, that of those that got

Starting point is 02:10:50 COVID, the death rate was decreased by 33%. And this is the important part. That death rate was increased almost immediately. In other words, as soon as they started taking the drug, not once the weight came off, because we know that obesity can cause issues if you get COVID. And so losing that weight can be important. But in this case, something else seemed to be going on here. There's another factor that scientists definitely need to dig into. And I think the important point here is to realize that this is a study that needs more studies to try and figure out what's

Starting point is 02:11:16 happening here and why this is benefiting the people. And is it something that can benefit all of us? And so hopefully so. Keeping your fingers crossed that as we find out more and more about COVID, we get more answers as well. Potentially exciting if they can find out why that's happening. Dr. John Torres, thank you so much. Thank you. So exciting. Oh, but I mean, I don't have another clip, but now I do. Scientists have discovered that ozempic is literally the fountain of youth. that ozempic is literally the fountain of youth. It can turn back the clock on a host of diseases.

Starting point is 02:11:54 This is, I mean, John, we've got to get on this train. This ozempic fixes everything. How come, it's been around for 18 years or so. Yeah, now they're just discovering all this. I guess they never studied it at all. Is that what you're saying? I have no idea, but it fixes everything. Well, you gotta get, gotta have it. It has to have a lot more power near the end of its patent period because you gotta move the grug while you can. GLP-1 is not patentable. It's, you know, the only thing that's patented is the injector.

Starting point is 02:12:28 That's why you can compound it. But you got to have the brand name. You don't want some dupe. No. Well, I think that you're missing the point of all these diseases. Oh, no. Because the big one coming our way any minute, which will kill a lot more people and it's a lot deadlier, is polio. Yeah, polio has a resurgence. I've noticed that.

Starting point is 02:12:53 So I have a bunch of clips because this polio is an outbreak in Gaza. Yes, war-torn Gaza. And I want to ask a question of you before I play these clips. Okay. I was under the impression based on what the mainstream media has been telling me most of my life for years, for decades, that polio was eradicated from the world stage. Eradicated. Yep.

Starting point is 02:13:21 And that's why you need, you've heard this too. Yes. And the reason I heard it is because everyone told me that you need the MMR shot for the measles because like polio, we can eradicate this horrible killer. Even though I had measles and had chickenpox and all that and the mumps. So now polio somehow magically appears in war-torn Gaza. Out of the blue. Yes. Just in time for, I don't know, vaccine. Is it vaccine or are they doing sugar cubes?

Starting point is 02:13:57 Oh, why don't you say vaccine? I thought I got the sugar cube, I think, back in the day. You know, that's another thing. Well, this will come up in the conversation. No, okay. Yes, it is a oral vaccine. And I actually had the shot. I'm lucky to be alive. Yes, indeed.

Starting point is 02:14:17 Because... Seriously, I'm not lucky to be alive. A lot of people got polio from the polio vaccination. Because they had live virus in a lot of them, the ones from Cudder Labs in particular. Yes, indeed. Cudder Labs. I got that shot. You got the, wait, wait, wait.

Starting point is 02:14:30 You got the Cudder Labs polio vaccine? Yeah. You are lucky to be alive. I am. Wow. The people listening to this podcast should donate to the show in thanks that I lived through it. So I also, I'm lucky to be alive.

Starting point is 02:14:47 And then I, and I never, you know, the idea obviously didn't get the bad batch. No, but the, uh, but later years later, I also got the sugar cube, the Sabin. It was, it was salt. Hold on, hold on. I don't, I don't understand. If you got the polio vaccine,

Starting point is 02:15:04 whether it was the good one or the bad one, why did you also have to take the sugar cube? Wasn't that one and done with the polio shot? You think? I was duped. Your parents certainly were. Well, what am I going to do? I can't do anything now. They're both dead. I can't sue them. So, here we go. I got a sugar cube and man, it was trippy. All right. In war ravaged Gaza, the United Nations is beginning to administer polio vaccinations this weekend. More than half a million children are due for the shots. The virus has re-emerged in Gaza after more than 10 months of war between Israel and Hamas. NPR's Kerry Kahn reports that with so much of Gaza's infrastructure in ruins, it will

Starting point is 02:15:51 be a logistical challenge to vaccinate 600,000 children. There are many challenges ahead for UN health workers, including getting the vaccines and patients to clinics, as well as keeping the vaccines refrigerated. Israel has agreed to limited pauses in the fighting in certain areas. Hamas has said it will cooperate too. The polio virus has not been present in Gaza for at least 25 years. It was recently detected in a 10-month-old boy who is now partially paralyzed. Doctors say many factors contribute to polio's return, including kids not having access to vaccines during nearly a year of war, wastewater treatment plants are in ruins, and more than

Starting point is 02:16:31 90% of residents have been displaced from their homes and now live in substandard conditions. So question, are we sure that polio is a virus? Has that even been determined? I think it's pretty well confirmed, but it was supposed to be eradicated. That's what gets me. Well, I know people probably around your age, uh, in the UK who still have limp. Cause they had polio as a kid. I mean, but they're, you know, they're now of Medicare age, but I have not seen anyone

Starting point is 02:17:07 with polio, heard of any polio, and how can it be eradicated? This just makes me think, is it from something else? Have we been duped about polio in general? Well, I think that's a logical way to go, considering that you and I have both been told it's been eradicated. Yes. And I know what the definition of eradicated is. Yes, gone. All. Craig Smith Yes. Dr. Craig Smith And I know what the definition of eradicated is. Dr. Craig Smith Yes, gone. Dr. Craig Smith All right, part two. Polio, which has been gone from the Gaza Strip for decades, is back as the war there continues.

Starting point is 02:17:35 But there is the possibility of good news. Tomorrow, the United Nations will begin to vaccinate children in Gaza against that preventable and highly contagious virus. It'll be an enormous effort, one that NPR International correspondent, Aya Batraoui, will follow from her base in Dubai. And she joins us now. Aya, thanks for being with us. Thank you, Scott.

Starting point is 02:17:57 Tell us about how this vaccination campaign's being rolled out. Well, the UN has really big aims here. They want to reach more than 640,000 children across Gaza to give them two courses of the polio vaccine. It will be given orally in droplets, but it needs refrigeration at every step. Pretty much Gaza has no electricity. They're just running on generators and fuel that's in short supply. Hold on.

Starting point is 02:18:20 If they have generators, they have electricity. Sorry. She literally said they have no electricity, they just have generators. Well, what does a generator do? It will be given orally in droplets, but it needs refrigeration at every step. And pretty much Gaza has no electricity. They're just running on generators and fuel that's in short supply. Another logistical challenge here is that the whole population is displaced. And so it's not easy for them to reach UN run clinics. But the UN groups leading this vaccination effort, which is UNICEF and the World Health

Starting point is 02:18:54 Organization, they say the most critical factor is a pause in airstrikes so that the vaccines can reach all these children. Now Israel says it's agreed to short pauses. Basically it won't attack for about eight hours a day in specific parts of Gaza for the few days that this campaign is being rolled out. And Hamas says they'll also cooperate. So we're going to stop the war to give these kids polio and then go back to bombing. Polio vaccinations.

Starting point is 02:19:21 Well, slip of the tongue, or was it? Didn't Bill Gates kill a whole bunch of children with his polio vaccination? I mean, I don't know what it was, but there was some situation. In India? India, where he got kicked out of the country, I think, and then also in Africa. I'll take that back. He didn't kill children, but there was a Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation sponsored, if I remember correctly, polio vaccination drive. Yeah, and it was in India and a whole bunch of kids didn't turn out good for them. So who says this isn't some kind of death shot to kill these children in Gaza? Well, I think that would be extreme.

Starting point is 02:20:05 Oh, because it's so much more humane than bombing. Yeah, exactly. Part three. How did the polio spread there in the first place? Doctors tell me this was a combination of factors. You have children, Scott, that haven't had access to vaccines, but also most of Gaza's hospitals have been destroyed or closed. You also have wastewater treatment plants and desalination plants that have been bombed. So, people have been drinking dirty water to survive. And we know from the Gaza Health Ministry that more than 40,000

Starting point is 02:20:38 people have been killed by Israeli fire in this war, but we don't have a tally for people who've died from illness. However, we know there's been a huge spike in kids with infections and diarrhea. Children are hungry, they are malnourished, they're living in these overcrowded shelters in the open in tents and with weak immune systems. Dr. John B. Burt, Ph.D. And do we know how widespread polio could now be in Gaza? Dr. Julie Kinn, Ph.D. Well, there's already been a case confirmed in a 10-month-old baby boy who was active

Starting point is 02:21:04 and crawling and he's now paralyzed in one leg after contracting polio. He is the first case of polio in a quarter century in Gaza. It comes after the Gaza Health Ministry and the World Health Organization. They sounded the alarm on this in July when they announced that the polio virus had been found in sewage water flowing in the streets around the tents of displaced people. And there are now at least two other suspected cases as well. Now, the symptoms for polio show in one out of every 100 to 1,000 people. So the doctors I spoke with say this means thousands of people in Gaza likely already

Starting point is 02:21:38 have contracted polio. It is spreading and one doctor called it a powder keg. Hey. Asymptomatic. That's a new one. Asymptomatic polio. Did they mention they're doing PCR testing? Because that's what I would suspect. No, in fact, let me mention this.

Starting point is 02:21:58 There was a, let me be clear. There was a, PBS had almost the identical report as the NPR report. It was, it was uncanny. I recorded both of them. I said, what, I can't use both of these. It was almost identical. They re this is a program. This has been put out for a reason.

Starting point is 02:22:17 I think the four kind of explains part of the reason. And it was very, uh, I actually have three clips from the NPR. I don't know if you want to hear them after yours, but. No, this is NPR. Oh, I'm sorry. You said PBS. Yes. Okay.

Starting point is 02:22:33 Here we go. No, I said PBS had the identical report and I had to decide which. Yeah, you took, we both got NPR. Okay. No problem. And that powder keg. I'm sorry. Here's the end.

Starting point is 02:22:43 Yes. Powder keg. And, powder keg. And that powder keg would present a risk to other neighboring countries, wouldn't it? Uh-oh. Wow, NPR's really rocking the edits these days. That's great. And that powder keg would present a risk to other neighboring countries, wouldn't it? Extremely.

Starting point is 02:23:02 So, I mean, you know, for weeks now, you have Israel's military vaccinating its own soldiers, even if they've already been vaccinated against polio before. Because polio spreads through water systems, aquifers, and in droplets in the air. And so not only could the virus spread to Israel, Egypt and Jordan, it could also reach Europe and the US. Two years ago, an unvaccinated Orthodox Jewish man in upstate New York contracted polio and the virus spread there. And the strain of that virus was traced to Jerusalem and London where there's frequent travel back and forth. And so to try to understand more about this, I reached out to Dr. Jeffrey Goldhagen. He is a pediatric professor at

Starting point is 02:23:40 the University of Florida and a global health expert. There is no reason not to expect the disease to spread from Gaza to the surrounding countries, the unvaccinated communities in Israel, and from there to Europe, the UK, and the United States. Excellent. And the only way of stopping the spread is by a successful rigorous polio vaccine campaign. Okay. Whoa, hold on. First of all, very anti-Semitic report, NPR. You're making people afraid of Jews because that Jew might have polio.

Starting point is 02:24:19 Second, are we now going to see the campaign in Europe and in the United States to get your polio booster? Well, did you hear the little gotcha in there was the Israeli armed forces were getting a shot, whether they had a shot or not. Yeah, so it's a booster. So they're going to try to, this is a moneymaker. This is genocide. This is my opinion. And what happened to cholera? Good old cholera. That's, that's our, that's coming. That's kidding. It's our disease of choice. You got to do these one at a time.

Starting point is 02:25:00 Put it in the red book. Cholera on deck for Gaza. Yeah. Cholera should have been in I thought I would have guessed that cholera would come up in the timeline before polio. Me too. But no they've decided to go with polio. You watch it's coming everybody you got to get a booster for polio babies in in America, babies. Oh man. So disheartening. They never let up. They don't. Well, speaking of never letting up, this is one of your favorite topics. There's a growing movement of social media influencers promoting raw or unpasteurized milk.

Starting point is 02:25:46 It's coincided with a recent spike in... By the way, is raw milk by definition, is that or unpasteurized? Is unpasteurized equals raw milk? I think it would, yeah. Yeah, well, these darn social, probably on TikTok, these horrible influencers. ...promoting raw or unpasteurized milk. Milk. It's coincided with a recent spike in sales across the country. I am.

Starting point is 02:26:10 Half of US states giving farmers the power to sour raw milk direct to consumers. Oh, we got to end. Oh, no. We got to unalive those farmers. Shoot them. It is good for business, but health officials say the consequences could be dangerous. Oh. Chanel called Esmore. Hold on a second. Stop. When he said it's good for what business? Good for business, but health officials say the consequences could be dangerous. Chanel called us more.

Starting point is 02:26:26 Hold on a second. Stop. When he said it's good for what business? For the farm business. To sell raw milk? It's a pain in the ass. Yes. We have a raw milk dairy up in near Port Angeles and we go there all the time.

Starting point is 02:26:43 This guy, they have to work like 10 times harder than a normal dairy to produce raw milk. It's not good for business. No, I'm with you. I'm with you. But maybe there's polio in the raw milk. You never know. On this dairy farm in Hampton. That's coming. Harrington, Delaware.

Starting point is 02:27:03 We take a clean towel off of the TN. Stephanie Knudsen is busy milking her cows. So the cows are milked twice a day. This milk gets pasteurized and sold at grocery stores across the country. She's a good doobie. We're milking her into this bucket milker down here. But come January, Knudson hopes to sell it raw.

Starting point is 02:27:25 We have always drank raw milk and that we produce on the farm. I'm a big proponent of this being regulated. People were having a hard time. And regulation could soon be coming as Delaware considers legalizing the sale of raw milk amid a recent and growing movement online. I drink raw cream in my coffee every morning.

Starting point is 02:27:45 Raw farm. Yummy. Raw farm dairy. If I'm gonna do milk, it's gonna be raw milk that I get at the farmer's market. Celebrities, influencers, even some politicians are endorsing raw milk, milk that has not been pasteurized or boiled

Starting point is 02:28:00 to kill dangerous germs. Like polio. We had due to climate change, now it's due to raw milk polio. So let's bring in Dr. Gounder. You'll recall she is the one who... Before you do that, it just comes across, I'm thinking this raw milk, anti-raw milk thing has been going on for, I don't know, we've been covering it for over a year. Oh, much longer than that. And I'd like to know why.

Starting point is 02:28:30 Why is it an issue? Who cares? It's a very small minority of dairies that even try to make it. And most of them are over-regulated already because you have to have a lot of inspections because you have to be careful. Oh, there it is. More inspections, more inspections, control of the food supply. Hello. It's about control. That's all that is. It's not about your health. It's about control. That's the only thing I can see. What else is it? Well, maybe Dr. Gounder can help us understand. We asked CBS News medical contributor Dr. Celine Gounder to weigh in.

Starting point is 02:29:07 There is no nutritional benefit from drinking raw milk. People like the idea of it. Maybe they think it tastes better. Maybe they think it's quote more natural. But it's really no more natural than drinking water that has not been treated. Which I also drink out of my well. And all that bacteria can lead to health problems. Like polio. E. coli, campylobacter, salmonella. These can give you fever, abdominal pain,

Starting point is 02:29:33 diarrhea, kidney failure. Listeria can cause fetal abnormalities, even fetal death. This year, doctors found high concentrations of the bird flu virus in the raw milk of infected dairy cattle. And a salmonella outbreak linked to raw milk sickened 170 people on the west coast. Oh no! Oh, bird flu in your milk. No good. Let's wrap it up here. These crazy influencers. We've got to put a stop to this. So why is raw milk's popularity and access still growing? I think this goes back to people's lack of trust in public health and wanting to feel like they can make healthy choices for themselves. Unfortunately, in this case, that is not the healthy choice.

Starting point is 02:30:20 The CDC, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and the American Medical Association all agree. But in a bid to help struggling dairy farmers... It's been very difficult to operate on the positive side of things for 20 some years now. More than half of US states created a pathway for raw milk to be sold directly to consumers within state lines. With raw milk, we can set the price and the national average price for raw milk is $10 to $14 a gallon. From our co-op, you know, we might be getting a buck fifty a gallon.

Starting point is 02:30:57 Though without federal oversight, the standards are inconsistent. States have been left to come up with their own rules. They are really literally all over the place from pretty much incidental sales being totally unregulated and all you have to do is put a warning label on it to say it's unpasteurized. To other states that require a lot more high level testing. While doctors still warn against consumption, farmers like the Knudsen's see an opportunity to meet this growing milk market. It can absolutely help us to thrive, not to survive. Well, it's a very confusing series of reports there, but other than I'm afraid to drink it. You know what's annoying about this reporting and these reports?

Starting point is 02:31:47 Is they say stuff like, well, yeah, and then some states don't do this and some states do that, and some states do whatever you want. What states are we talking about? Name the states. What kind of reporting is it to say some states do this and some states do that without telling us specifically the states. Does it take that much work for a reporter to make a phone call? Find out what the states are? Apparently. Is it too much work to tell the public that they're reporting to what states they're talking about? Is it reporting or is it mind control? I'm confused. Well, you

Starting point is 02:32:26 tell me. All I know is that this journalism sucks. It stinks. There's no details whatsoever. This is like, oh, it's up 10%. What does that mean? Are you done? Yeah, I'm done. Well, they mentioned the bird flu, which has kind of fallen by the wayside, which is very... Slip that in there. Well, I have one bird flu report. We just had last weekend the Gillespie County Fair, which is the oldest fair in the state of Texas, and right around the corner from- Older than the Texas State Fair? Yep, this is the one.

Starting point is 02:33:10 This is the oldest- Have you been to the Texas State Fair? I have not. Oh, it's great. I've been there. Well- It's one of the best state fairs in the country. Well, we have the oldest here in Galay.

Starting point is 02:33:22 It was cute. We had throughout the, everyone with their prized cows and their pigs and cowboys everywhere. No, it was nice. It was kind of old school. A little parade. Did they have the auction?

Starting point is 02:33:34 You can auction, buy a pig and take a butcher. Yeah, they had the auction. Did you buy a pig on the hoof? No, I didn't go. Are you kidding me? It was too hot. However, in Minnesota, they have a state fair with new regulations. Sounds of the Steele County Fair are in full force. That includes a melody of moos.

Starting point is 02:33:58 A melody of moos! Maddie Murphy brought her cow named Collarbone hoping for the top prize. It's exciting. I love doing it. With bird flu infecting some Minnesota cows this year Collarbone needed to be tested before she could appear. Notice the music change. With bird flu infecting some Minnesota cows this year Collarbone needed to be tested before she could appear at the fair. We have to make sure to test all the cows, our milking cows, and make sure that they're negative before we bring them into the barn.

Starting point is 02:34:33 Minnesota health officials are requiring testing of some cows for the H5N1 virus at county fairs and state fairs. We just have to take extra precautions like we did during COVID. This is the first time at the Steele County Fair they've ever had to do this type of testing. This year is a little bit different. It's a little stressful for all of us. Sandy Jurley with the fair makes sure the tests have been done. As the trailers come in, I ask for their paperwork. Papers!

Starting point is 02:34:59 We feel it's very important. We don't want to have any of our animals come down with this. The Minnesota Department of Animal Health feels it's important, so we're going to follow what they're requesting. We do what we are told to do. Papers, please, of your cow. Yes, test your cows. You will obey. Yes, you will obey, indeed. I like melody of moves. I wrote it down as a show title.

Starting point is 02:35:28 Yeah, it's a possibility. Let me just, there's some messaging here in these two Ukraine stories. It's two stories, but basically the, you know, it's the same story but two reports with two similar, I think, messages which need to be discussed. And these come from, let me see, is this a US report? No, I think these are foreigner reports. Al, let's talk about a subject that we have talked about so often here, the Russia-Ukraine War and the fact that US-made, US-provided

Starting point is 02:36:07 F-16s are now flying in the skies. This US-made, you know, F-16s are sold to people and countries all over the world, but then they have to point out it's US-made. Well, yeah, you know, we make all the stuff. And the fact that US made US provided F-16s are now flying in the skies of Ukraine in this war there. But the Wall Street Journal, our friend, Lara Seligman, had this scoop today. And this is what she is reporting. I want to read from her article that a Ukrainian pilot was killed in combat when his F-16 jet

Starting point is 02:36:45 fighter crashed on Monday just weeks after the first of the American-made aircraft arrived in Ukraine. Now this is according to both the US and Ukrainian officials according to Laura Seligman's reporting. She goes on to say the pilot died while helping to repel a massive Russian missile attack Monday. Initial reports indicate the jet was not shot down by enemy fire, US officials said. The Pentagon referred questions to the Ukrainian Air Force for comment. The Ukrainian Air Force acknowledged the crash and

Starting point is 02:37:17 pilots death in a statement today. Ukraine used the jets for the first time in combat to shoot down Russian missiles during the strikes this week According to president Volodymyr Zelensky. Okay, so we have us made us made us made and it comes back in The second report Ukraine's president announced the sacking of the Air Force chief in his nightly address He didn't give a specific reason but the move came days after an F-16 fighter jet, delivered to Ukraine earlier this month from its western allies, was shot down. Ukraine initially said the US-made F-16 was shot down by Russian forces,

Starting point is 02:37:55 but military analysts suspect it may have been downed in a case of friendly fire. Zelensky's statement did not go into detail. Zelensky's statement did not go into detail. A probe into the crash is underway. U.S., Ukrainian, and foreign military analysts are investigating the potential causes. They speculate the warplane was shot down accidentally by Ukraine itself, using the country's U.S. manufactured Patriot missile system. So a U.S.-made F-16 was shot down by a U.S US made Patriot missile, which I believe to be true. What is this messaging?

Starting point is 02:38:31 What am I not understanding? Or what are they trying to say here? I don't know. I got one report which may include some of this information from my Ukraine clip, but the guy who is the head of the Ukrainian Air Force was fired. Fired, yeah, of course. And that wasn't mentioned in those reports for some reason. He just mentioned it.

Starting point is 02:38:49 He did? Were you not listening to my reports? I was listening to, I was listening specifically to hear that and I didn't hear it. He literally said Zelensky fired his Air Force chief. Oh, I missed it somehow. Yeah, well, because you were too busy thinking, I got a better clip than that. I don't have a better clip than that. No, well, no, of course you could.

Starting point is 02:39:08 I said I have a different clip. Well, you were thinking about it. Maybe, it's possible. Mm-hmm. You may have caught me in a moment of thought. Or fog, who knows? Let's play this clip. So today, a Russian guided bomb attack on Ukraine's second largest city killed at least five people

Starting point is 02:39:27 and injured dozens more. Authorities in Kharkiv say the bombs hit five locations across the city, including a playground where at least one child died. Others were killed in a nearby apartment building that caught fire as a result of that attack. Meantime in Washington, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin met with his Ukrainian counterpart today and condemned Moscow's recent wave of strikes on civilian infrastructure. Let me be clear. Let me be clear.

Starting point is 02:39:53 Let me be clear. It is never acceptable to target civilians. And Ukraine's resilience will help it prevail over Putin's aggression and atrocities. Separately, Ukraine's president has fired the country's Air Force commander after an F-16 warplane supplied by Ukraine's Western allies crashed earlier this week. U.S. experts have joined the investigation into why the jet went down during a Russian

Starting point is 02:40:17 missile and drone barrage on Monday. Well, they didn't use the U.S.-made moniker, which is the SIA. Where did you get that other clip? I think the first one must have been a US one. I don't have it marked, sadly. The second one was France 24, I believe. The first one, I'm unsure where it came from. But there's some reason they were saying that they're not saying it here because I think we're not that dumb. Well, I would like to point out that we are a US-made podcast.

Starting point is 02:40:55 We are. And I have a possible exit strategy that's been staring us in the face for a long time. Yes, I have to point out to you that Mimi is objecting to this concept. Do you even know what my concept is? It doesn't matter. She says that every time you mention exit strategy, it gives her a chill. A chill, uh-huh. And she says it's triggering and she says it's hurting donations.

Starting point is 02:41:25 Well, what if I told her that we could, with our Dutch masters, we could bring in maybe five, $600 million as an exit strategy. Would that give her a different view? It's still going to hurt donations. In fact, that'll hurt donations more if They've got that much money. They don't need mine. Really now, so you're saying that our joke about exit strategy, which we'll never achieve and have been talking about for almost 17 years, I think show number 10, we were talking

Starting point is 02:41:59 about how do we get out of this gig, that that's been hurting donations? She says yes. Let me be clear. But what is this? I want to hear this. Oh, you're interested. You're interested. Well, I'm interested. I'm just telling you, donations are going to be down because of it. Well, that you're possibly right. But what do we have with our artists? We have a number of our artists who are what? Talented. But I'm talking about, they have talent. Yes, they're talented.

Starting point is 02:42:34 And there's a number of artists now, this is different by the way, that have become prompt jockeys of the highest order. Yes, yes. Of the highest order. Yes, exactly. So I've identified a trend that, well, I've identified it because CNBC gave me a clip about it. The trend is. You want to play the clip? I'll play the clip.

Starting point is 02:42:56 And then you tell me that we can't incorporate with some of our expert prompt jockeys. And I think every single one of our artists could do this. I think we get at least 10 professional prompt jockeys that are languishing in the world. So what is the language? What does they're not being exploited as they should be. And most artists, by the way, want to be exploited because they like to get their stuff out of there. That's right. So what is the big problem with artificial intelligence with all these AI startup companies? I don't know what they're not making any money. They never will. Exactly. They're not

Starting point is 02:43:36 making any money. And this is what's happening. Character AI was one of the most promising startups in the age of generative AI personalized AI, highly engaging, loyal user base, $150 million in funding at a billion dollar valuation. Character.ai launched its software last September and has had more than 173 million visits last month, a 61% increase from March. And a founder who pioneered generative AI. There was just one problem. The startup couldn't make money, and according to reports, it struggled to generate enough revenue from paid users. Character AI, billion-dollar valuation, pre-revenue,

Starting point is 02:44:13 very much feels like the 2010 App Store where you gain a lot of users and kind of figure out the monetization later. So it turned to a well-established money-printing mega-cap, Google, which was happy to cut a deal, especially since it was arguably more interested in the talent than the technology. Character AI co founder, Noam Shazir was an author of a groundbreaking paper that laid the foundation for today's age of AI.

Starting point is 02:44:38 It would bring Shazir back to Google, along with a fifth of his employees and licensed characters technology without having to outright buy the startup in an acquisition. It's a playbook that skirts the regulatory crackdown on big tech dominance, provides an exit for AI startups struggling to make money, and allows MegaCaps to pick up the talent needed in the AI arms race. There's a very small number of researchers, AI practitioners that operate at the frontier of the technology. There's probably only thousands right now. And the hyperscalers, the mega caps want that talent

Starting point is 02:45:13 and they're looking to get it any way they can. How about it? We just value ourselves at a billion dollars and they buy us because we can't make any money. They didn't make any money. They didn't do that though. They just stole the talent. Well yeah, but... Hold on a second. This is the worst aspect of Silicon Valley. This is why everyone keeps everything a secret.

Starting point is 02:45:37 You have a bunch of talented guys running this company and they have investors of 160 or whatever that number was, million dollars of people who put angels and Sequoia, who knows who was involved. And then instead of them getting their payback, which they expect, they have their whole team ripped out from under them and taken to Google because they, who was too cheap to buy out the company, which was valued at a billion dollars, which is like falling off a log for Google. They could afford a billion dollars in a drop of a hat.

Starting point is 02:46:09 This is bull crap. I'm very upset by this. Well, you know, it's because of regulatory oversight that they're doing that. Oh, this is better? Yes. Screwing the investors to that extreme? The investors get the licensing fee. Don't you see it?

Starting point is 02:46:29 They're not getting anything is what they're getting. It's the end of AI, John. That's what it is. They're just bringing in more people to say, we've got the best people. Well, Google is notorious for doing a crappy job of anything other than search and also selling data. Everything else is a joke. Yes.

Starting point is 02:46:52 I'm sorry. So there's that. Well, I didn't mean to upset you. I'm upset on behalf of the investors. What are you, an LP at Kleiner Perkins now? I wish, but no, I don't wish I'd be broke. All right, one quick trip to Germany. The far right is a big problem. If you think that it's just America that has MAGA, they've got MAGA.

Starting point is 02:47:20 As the sun sets over Dresden, anger among the far-right rises. Just days before voters take to the polls... Boy, they sound really angry. Did you hear that clapping? That was very angry clapping. ...the upcoming regional elections. These people believe they represent the majority view in the east of Germany, arguing multiculturalism is threatening their way of life. We want change to Germany. Because here in Germany there are so many refugees and from

Starting point is 02:47:53 the refugees there are so many crimes, murder, ensouling. The AFD has tapped into high anti-immigration sentiment, a view that is likely to translate into votes. These posters are plastered on almost every lamppost. They read, sun, summer, remigration, another, homeland, not multiculturalism. This local AFD candidate blames a lack of border control for last week's fatal knife attack. You know what has happened in Solingen. That of course makes people angry.

Starting point is 02:48:26 There are rapes, a dozen, every day. The AFD are expected to win big, a potent signal, just over a year before the next national election. Party leaders say they must take back control. Join us in making sure that the whole of Germany breathes a sigh of relief on September 1st. Thank you for your support for our homeland, for Germany, for Saxony. So there you go. They said homeland as opposed to fatherland. Yeah, hinterland. And this is exactly what happened in France. The far right came out in droves. Everyone was voting and then the left went, oh, well, we're all going to say no and we're all going to get together.

Starting point is 02:49:15 And they've been without a, literally without a government, without a prime president or prime minister ever since the election six weeks ago and and it's still no sign of breakthrough. More than six weeks after snap legislative elections France still has no proper government. President Macron began a new round of political negotiations on Wednesday aimed at finding a viable prime minister amid a hung parliament. In a break with tradition, Macron is refusing to appoint a Prime Minister from the winningest party in July's vote. The left-wing New Popular Front Alliance came in first place, but without an actual majority. The president is instead trying to cobble together a new coalition with conservatives,

Starting point is 02:49:58 but striking out there as well. He's set to head to Serbia for a two-day visit on Thursday, but he's squeezing in some meetings before he leaves. So they're just not doing governments anymore. You know, the administrative state runs these countries, including ours. You don't need a government. It's just a facade. Well, there you go. Prove me wrong. No, I can't prove you go. Prove me wrong. No, I can't prove you wrong. You have a lot of clips left over, so if you have anything you'd like to share with the group.

Starting point is 02:50:34 Well, let's get some of these old clips out of the way. What's this podcast clip? Oh, yes. This is the podcast. This is all of a sudden. We've got all kinds of issues because cereal podcast actually did some damage Don't know if it's good or bad But play the clip Maryland Supreme Court has ordered a redo of the hearing that freed Adnan

Starting point is 02:50:54 Sayed over concerns about the rights of the victims family It's the latest twist in a legal drama that was the focus of the serial podcast which propelled the case to national attention that was the focus of the serial podcast, which propelled the case to national attention. Syed was convicted more than two decades ago for killing his high school ex-girlfriend. He was freed in 2022, only to have his conviction reinstated a year later. One of the dissenting judges in today's ruling did not mince words, writing that the case is, quote, a procedural zombie. It has been reanimated despite its expiration. Syed will remain free as a lower court considers whether to throw out his conviction.

Starting point is 02:51:31 Oh, man, they, they missed the best part. So the serial podcast, which launched in 2014 and became a sensation around 2016. Yes. Reinvigorated podcasting. There's no doubt about it. People would just love that it came at the moment everybody was binge watching Breaking Bad five seasons in a weekend and showing up to work on Monday with dark circles under their eyes and And did you know that season four of serial launched came and went

Starting point is 02:52:10 Just in the past. I haven't followed it. Oh nobody In fact the producer Sarah Koenig. She says, you know, it was complete dud No made no money. No one cared. No one listened. I mean, no, obviously somebody listened. And so now here you have a great tee up for wherever this report came from to say, Serial Season 4 is currently available wherever you get your podcasts. But they didn't even get that. So I think it's very sad that Ser didn't get, didn't get a plug of that nature and be okay, well, this is the old cereal, but the new cereal, no, nothing.

Starting point is 02:52:52 Crickets fail. I don't know what the make of it. Yeah. Well, maybe it's hard to do that kind of podcast and continually do it. It reminds me of the thing. It was an HBO show called The Detective or something. It was with, they had a season of it. It was all specials, like a mini series.

Starting point is 02:53:12 Are you talking about True Detective? True Detective, exactly. My buddy wrote and produced and directed that. The first season? All three seasons. Well, the first season was a killer. With Woody Harrelson? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:53:26 Yeah. And then it dropped off and now what? That's Nick Pizzolato. He moved... Yeah, well, I admire the fact that you know the guy, but what happened? He cleaned up on season... The magic was missing from the second and third season. No, what happened is he cleaned up on season three.

Starting point is 02:53:44 Like massive, massive payout. Yeah, it's good for him. Yeah, that's yeah, of course. But isn't that with everything? I mean, have you seen, have you gone to see the Wolverine and Deadpool yet? I mean, what did they do? Eleven million dollars in the opening weekend. People are sick of these things. They're sick of the repeats, they're sick of the sequels. They want- Well that's what happened to Serial. Yeah, they want original programming twice a week, couple hours worth.

Starting point is 02:54:15 On Thursday and Sunday? It's called The No Agenda Show everybody. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, that's right. This is where we thank people who came in $50 and above or above. And of course, we once again want to thank everybody who was a sustaining donor. We will be bringing a Knight and a Dame on stage today here at the round table who have just been supporting on sustaining donations on a

Starting point is 02:54:49 layaway plan for as long as they wanted to do it. And there's some birthday things and do you want me to read the birthday? I'm gonna throw it to you. Throw it, toss it to me. When we get to the 63, 88 and down to the 60s, it was all for you. Yes, I'm very excited. I love people saying happy birthday. I can't get enough of it. I got a chuckle. Don't pee yourself when you're doing this read. It's all right. I already... Rita Harrington in Sparks, Nevada starts to solve it 160 bucks. She does say happy

Starting point is 02:55:25 birthday, Adam. And she's followed at 160 bucks, ITM. Anonymous in Bucharest, oh, Bucharest, Romania. Nice. 105.35, but she's actually in South Africa. Oh no, he's the anonymous South African here. Temporarily. He also sent an emergency note in this morning saying that he wants to call out the other anonymous South African. He wants to call him out as a douchebag. And we don't know who these people are. No, but there are people. Leroy, Leroy Pracheco in Santa Fe, New Mexico, $100 and he says happy birthdays John add at him. Well thank you. Sir Spencer in Sherwood Park, Alberta

Starting point is 02:56:10 Canada, $100. Sir Brian Tobiasen in Gardner, Kansas, 9063. It is another birthday call out. So you're getting birthdays all over the place. Beautiful, thank you. Kevin McLaughlin, lover of or he's the Archduke of Lunar, lover of American boobs, comes in with his boob donation, Concord, North Carolina, 8008, and does not wish you a happy birthday. Oh. Manuel Medeiros in Tracy, California, 75 bucks for shenanigans. Sean Simmons in Stadford, Virginia, 69, 69, and now we began with... hold on... 69, 69, 68... we began with the... I just wanted to bring that back... right with Mark Hall, your

Starting point is 02:56:55 buddy in Austin, who stars us off in there. You've got it and you can read and thank these people for thanking you. That's right. I'll just read the name and location and any note and know that these are all basically 60s. For some reason, Sir Mark Hall paid more for the fees. He says, happy 60s Adam. Welcome to the sexy 60s. Sean Douglas, Glenn Ewing. Oh, wait, stop. Mark Hall mentions that you are 11 years older than he is. I thought you should know that. That's Sean Douglas, the next line. Oh, okay. But thanks. Not just 11 years, but 11 years and one day older than him.

Starting point is 02:57:31 $60 to celebrate your birthday and $49 for him. Okay. And he also took care of the PayPal fees. God bless. Thank you, Sean. Alexander Stawinski, Denver, Colorado. Happy birthday, Adam. Brat summer is over.

Starting point is 02:57:44 Arno from Amstelveen. Kowinski, Stavinsky, Denver Colorado, Happy Birthday Adam, Brat Summer is over! Arno from Amstelveen, van harte gefeliciteerd met je verjaardag, dank je wel! John DeSanti, Belford, New Jersey, Happy Birthday Adam, you're old, thanks, that makes me feel good! Do4 Creative Services, Elkhart, Indiana, Happy 6-0 Adam! Dame Slammy, Bastrop, Texas from Dame Slamy. Happy birthday, Podfather. PayPal is being dumb, so this is $60 plus fees. Thank you for your courage. Anonymous, Fairfield, Ohio. Happy birthday, Adam.

Starting point is 02:58:12 I prefer anonymity. Done. Sarah Gardner, happy birthday, Adam. Danny Hayes, God bless you, Adam. Numbers 624 and 226. I shall check. Oh, I know what that is. That's the God show, the shyness face upon you, I think. I shall check. Oh, I know what that is. That's the God show. The shine is face face upon you. I think Robert

Starting point is 02:58:27 roll. Congrats on not dying. Ah, so uplifting. Thank you. Robert Stokes. Happy birthday, Adam. Sir Vaughn. Happy 60th. Not bad. I've survived six years of it. Yeah, you're older than me, brother. Eric Adler. Look, the failure. See him at your pod father. Sir Eric. Baronet of the fat point. Gadget Freak 10. Eric Adler look the failure statement you pod father sure Eric baronet of the fat point Gadget freak 10 happy birthday Adams surveilled the happy birthday Adams surveilled Vicon of female region number For Teresa Gannon no note 62 29. So that's what the fees I guess Marianne Schmidt happy birthday Adams 60 plus fees. Party on. Dame Christina Pearl. She was at the birthday

Starting point is 02:59:05 party, the surprise party. Happy birthday Adam. Dame Christina Pearl and of course, Sir Robert Charles. Both of them were there. You know, she gave me a special Southwest Airlines luggage tag that you can only have if you're a crew member and apparently it gets you benefits when you're walking around the airport with it, which is cool. Praise God says Christopher Altman with $60 donation plus fees sir. Hold my beer. Happy birthday Adam. Hold my beer Jennifer rain Oh, wow. Happy 60th birthday Adam black night, sir Last row happy birthday to Adam from black nights or last row and the laster farmstead official no agenda egg smugglers Yes, bring some by I like those blue and green eggs you got.

Starting point is 02:59:46 Randy Balzer says, happy birthday. Sharing my beer money with you Adam. Happy, happy birthday from Susan Erickson. Happy 60th Curry, Sir Duden Chick from Bastrop, Texas. Sharon Searle, because time itself was like a spiral. Something special happens on your birthday each year. The same energy that God invested in you at birth is present once again. Menachem Mendel Schneerschen Bethesd Zen Barrister.

Starting point is 03:00:10 All right. Lisa Piles with the birthday donation. Randy O'Rourke with a happy one for me. Thank you. Dame Janet and Sir Island Dog. Go Dogs with a birthday donation. Lee Doolan from the UK. Happy birthday, Adam.

Starting point is 03:00:24 Congrats on the big zero. Here's to you guys never finding an exit strategy. My Friday and Monday mornings would never be the same UK listener. Of course. That's why Baron OG podcaster and the lovely lady Leanne. Aye, that must be Steve Webb. Happy 60th. Adam, may this be your best year ever, my brother. Annika, Anka Schneider, Schneider, Anke, Anke, she's from Quebec, Quebec, Verdun, Quebec. ITM John and Happy Birthday Adam.

Starting point is 03:00:52 PS please deduce me. You've been deduced. And she would like an additional baby karma later on which I'm happy to divulge after we're done with all these at the end. Brian Mickey, Prague, Oklahoma, 6033. Simon Reed, Scarsdale, New York, happy birthday. No jingles, no karma. Happy birthday, Podfather says Sir Chris of Saxie.

Starting point is 03:01:20 William Wellborn in Georgia, 6033. Happy birthday, Adam. Sir, are becoming heroic may small boobs surround you and protect you oh thank you please credit this to Fairvolt T happy birthday Adam C hope you have a wonderful day thank you and JCD for your everlasting courage Adams birthday from Daniela Pompeo and Abbey to the birthday list says Brent Dombrowski you got it along with me I guess the same birthday sir Scotland de Brave long mayor Lumric he says and all the Scottish lards and ladies then a couple more sixies here from Sarah's from Stefan Anders Sarah Steinlin, Douglas Enstrom, Baron Victor, who is also 60, he

Starting point is 03:02:08 says, Baron Sir Phenom, Jason Babcock, Robert Ballard, Happy 60th Uncle Adam, says Sir Stuart, looking forward to celebrating my 60th in a few months as well. He's the angry accountant from the UK. Happy birthday, Adam, long live the no agenda show. Jean Leclerc, oh sir, Qui-Gibou from Luxembourg. Patrick Cannon with the $60. Rita Harrington, happy birthday Adam, can I get a D-douche? You've been D-douched.

Starting point is 03:02:37 I'm sorry, the D-douching is for Paul Rachal. Rachal, Rachal, he's a knight, but that's due to others donating on my behalf, shamefully his first donation. Uh, and then, uh, we're at 58 56. So I'm going to toss it to you, Bob. Matthew Martel starts us off at Brew Mall, Pennsylvania, 58 56. He calls us soy boys, by the way. Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona 58. Mark Hardwick

Starting point is 03:03:07 in Aledo, Texas 5333. Stefan Trockeloria in Santa Clarita, California, 50.60. And he calls it an ugly Zoe Loughran donation. Sir Ladyboy in Mount Laurel, New Jersey, 50.60. Brandon Locklear in Sugar Hill, Georgia, 50. Scott McCarty in Lodi, California. Tony Lang, these are 50s, these are all 50s. Tony Lang in Castle Pines, Colorado, 50. Jordan Tierney in Orel, South Dakota, as opposed to the other part of South Dakota. Jordan Hoeno in Salem, Oregon.

Starting point is 03:04:07 Leslie Walker in Roseburg, Oregon. A lot of Oregonians here. He says, love you guys. And last on our list here is Aichi Kitagawa in San Francisco, California. I want to thank these folks, all of them, for wishing Adam a happy birthday and also for supporting show 15

Starting point is 03:04:28 16 91 91 yes appreciate it. Thank you everybody under 50 as we mentioned previously Karma of the baby making variety as requested coming your way right now. You've got Karma support the show never an exit strategy no agenda donations calm I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

Starting point is 03:04:49 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

Starting point is 03:04:57 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. daughter Kayla happy one she turns 19 today Baron Bird Dog wishes his keeper and a very happy birthday

Starting point is 03:05:06 and Brent Dombrowski who apparently celebrates on the same day as I do which will be on Tuesday September the third happy birthday everybody from the staff and management here at the best podcast in the universe we have a dame and we have a night both of them layaways so I'll start with a dame and we have a knight, both of them layaways. So I'll start with the dame first. So this is, what is her name? Oh, interesting. Okay. This is for Anne. John and Adam, thank you for your outstanding work.

Starting point is 03:05:38 My wife and I have been long time listeners and sustaining donors since 2016. Please add my keeper of 20 years, Anne, to the birthday list. Did that for Sunday show. I'd also like to have her damed. I'm not sure what she wants her dame name to be, but with her love of quitting and be quilting and beekeeping, let's try Dame Annie the Quilting Bee. Please add bacon wrapped moose roast on the barbecue and gin and tonic to the round table. I get a Sharpton and a don't raff well of course you can keep up the good work and remember no agenda saves lives don't laugh why you are laughing shut up our ESP ICT then we have our layaway night this This is Mike Hocanadal.

Starting point is 03:06:32 In the morning, gents, thank you for providing us with the minty fresh media deconstruction to cleanse ourselves from the pre-processed junk that is the M5M. I especially want to wish a happy birthday to Adam as he hits the big six. So may his exit strategy be quick and painless. Yes, spitting in the mic. Shout out to my lovely wife and kids. They are my guiding light. I would like to be known as Sir Hokey of the second floor basement.

Starting point is 03:06:54 Please deduce me. You've been deduced. Oh, and talk about your random random number theory. Hook me up with a tech grouch jingle if you have one lying around That's that's a coincidence I happen to because we played it earlier sir. Hokey of the second floor basement. Thanks. He says Mike Well, here it is Wow That's interesting. A classic. Well, we already played the classic.

Starting point is 03:07:31 Alright, let's bring them both up on the table, John. If you don't mind, bring out your blade. Ooh, a very nice blade. Very good. Alright, please, up to the podium here. Ann! Ann, Ann, Ann, Ann, and Mike Hocanadal. I'm glad you have a night name. It'd be a lot easier for me. Both of you have succeeded in achieving

Starting point is 03:07:49 night and dame status thanks to your support of the No Agenda Show with your layaways. I'm very proud to pronounce the Kate V. as Dame Annie the Quilting Bee and Sir Hokey of the Second Floor Basement. For you, we've got hookers on blow, rent boys in chardonnay bacon wrap mousse roast on the barbecue and a gin and tonic along with the Ruben s women and rosé we've got the geishas and sake we've got vodka vanilla bungets and bourbon sparkling cider and escorch gin drill and gerbils breast

Starting point is 03:08:17 milk and pablum of course that's raw milk and as always the mutton and the mead go to noagendarings. calm and there you can see the beautiful rings for nights And for dames and along with that comes wax to use for sealing your important correspondence This is a signet ring everyone can go take a look at that Of course, and there's a sizing guide so let us know we can send that off to you And as always they all come with a certificate of authenticity Welcome to the roundtable. Enjoy your mutton and me meat and thank you for supporting the best podcast in the universe. No agenda, meetups. It's not your money.

Starting point is 03:08:55 Yeah, the meetups. It was basically a meetup in Fredericksburg at the surprise birthday party. We had so many no agenda people there. It was fantastic. Everybody hanging out, having a good time. And you can do one of these yourself anywhere you want by going to noagendameetups.com. You can start a meetup. You can do it anywhere you want. We recommend a bar that is friendly to crowds,

Starting point is 03:09:19 maybe with an outdoor space. And always remember to tip your servers. And North Georgia sent in a report from their recent meetup. In the morning Gitmo Nation, Sir Bob here from the North Georgia Monthly Meetup. Another great night, another great turnout. Let's hear what the slaves had to say. Hello, dude named Ben here, but I've never programmed in the morning. Sean here.

Starting point is 03:09:39 My amygdala is filled with joy. Hey, this is Tank at Alpha Tucky. Glad to be here. I'm still a douchebag. This is Sir R. My amygdala is filled with joy. Hey, this is Tank at Alpha Tucky. Glad to be here. I'm still a douchebag. This is Sir R. I'm sitting here with two archeologists and I'm wondering where is Graham Hancock?

Starting point is 03:09:54 In the morning, this is Jay. A good time was had by all. Baron, double doctor sir, Mike Roch here. If you have to take a COVID test, just hock to the spit on that thing not medical advice all right there's a meetup taking place today the first annual no agenda Antietam battlefield meetup I got the pronunciation guide, thank you.

Starting point is 03:10:25 That's at the Antietam National Battlefield, Sharpsburg, Maryland. And oh, that was that already passed. They probably wrapping up by now. The annual South Jersey Pig Roast Meetup kicks off just about now at Medford Lakes, New Jersey. And Dane Winn of the Lakes needed you to RSVP. So I hope you did. Looking forward to a report from that one. On Monday, Labor Day, the Adam and Tina were here meet up. That'll be at noon in Plymouth, Massachusetts, 72 Allenton Street. That is at the monument to the forefathers, and I expect a report from Sir Hay Citizen

Starting point is 03:11:02 along with some pictures on September 5th Thursday our next show day the 805 rooftop meetup at 4 o'clock in Golita HGI rooftop, Golita, California and the Northern Wave Public-Publical Slave Gathering at 6 o'clock at Happy Endings in Raleigh, North Carolina And finally for the next show Denver back to the bar meetup at 8 30 p.m Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado Then well one let you know that on September 7th, there will be meet up in Anchorage, Alaska It's always a good time up there Aurora, Illinois on the 7th on the 8th Indianapolis Keen, New Hampshire Kernersville, North Carolina the 14th along with Chattanooga, Tennessee

Starting point is 03:11:42 Ronert Park, California Garden City, Idaho Fort Wayne, Indiana, Garden City, Idaho, Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 15th, St. Augustine, Florida, Tucson, Arizona on September 19th, Charlotte, North Carolina, Bedford, Texas on the 21st with San Diego, Goose Creek, South Carolina on the 27th, Richland, Washington, the 28th, Tilburg, the Netherlands. Remember October 18th, Fredericksburg, Texas, the big hill country meetup. We will be there. Curry and the Keeper will be there along with many other luminaries, no doubt from the whole country.

Starting point is 03:12:10 And then there's many more to come in October, November, all the way through to December. If you want a nice warm meetup in December, the West Palm Beach Florida Meetup is on December 15th. If you want to know more, if you want to learn about them, if you want to register for any of these, let people know you're coming. Go to knowagendameetups.com. If you want to register for any of these let people know you're coming go to know agenda meetups calm if you can't find one near you then start one yourself it's easy and always

Starting point is 03:12:30 guaranteed a party Won't be triggered or held in blame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party Yeah baby, like a party, always like a party. They're fun. Meetups are fun. I like doing meetups. Let's see, I have a couple of ISOs. Actually, oh, I came loaded for Bear. Let's see, I have a couple of ISOs. Actually, oh, I came loaded for bear. Came loaded for bear. Can I just roll out? I got five, one, two, three.

Starting point is 03:13:10 I got six. Six. You wanna hear him? Yes. Here we go. He is awful at podcasting. A little too long. Oh, actually I have five.

Starting point is 03:13:22 Here's the next one. They don't know what they're talking about. I kind of like that one. I like that one. I like have five. Here's the next one. They don't know what they're talking about. I kind of like that one. I like that one. The whole thing is crazy. I'd like that one too. That's it. And?

Starting point is 03:13:37 Same old tired playbook. I think there's at least one in there. Like the Pelosi one. Yeah. What you got? Okay. Well, I've got a bun I've got four so I'm almost many. Yeah, let's start with embarrassed Embarrassed we are not embarrassed by any of it Little echo II. It's too echo. Yeah. Yeah won't punch through. Let's try the classic. Thanks Thank you. Pelosi's still winning. Pleasure. Always a pleasure.

Starting point is 03:14:24 Last on the list is awesome. Pretty awesome. I don't think anything tops Pelosi. Let's hear it again. They don't know what they're talking about I mean it slams us. It's Pelosi. It's all the good stuff. You got to admit Are we good? Yeah, okay. Pelosi's always a winner. Alright Ladies and gentlemen once again it is time for the one and only tip of the day that comes at the end of every single No agenda podcast. You will not want to miss it. This is a good one. This is an offbeat, this is a product that people don't even know exists. They're all good by the way. It's not just this one that's good. They're all good. This is padding adhesive.

Starting point is 03:15:09 Padding adhesive, okay. Yeah, if you've ever had like a bunch of sheets or something you wanted to make into a notepad that you can tear off page after page. Yeah. This is what printers use when they make you, you go over there and say, I like to get a bunch of

Starting point is 03:15:25 notepads and they make you a bunch of notepads with your logo at the top or whatever size you want. And then they're all glued together with this. What they use is the same stuff you can buy called padding adhesive. And you can get a small jar of it or you can get a big gallon of it, depends. I mean, you don't want a big pile of it because you're not going to use it that often. But when you use it, it's pretty cool. I just did this recently with a bunch of deposit slips from the bank that would be scattered around a drawer normally, but I made them into a notepad. I just used the padding adhesive.

Starting point is 03:15:59 You can use it, you can paint it on the edge or you can make a little dipping device and dip it in there and make it and then let it dry overnight and you have a notepad. You tear off one after the other. It's a dynamite product that nobody knows about. And how would I use that in my life specifically? Do you ever have like a bunch of, a bunch of, do you ever have a notepad or do you have a desire to have something you could print yourself or something you it's you find you'd find a use for it.

Starting point is 03:16:33 Hmm. Is it better than paper clips or staples? Yeah. It's cooler. It's a cool little product. You get a little it tears off. It looks like it looks professional. What get a little... it tears off. It looks professional. Okay. What is the name of this product again?

Starting point is 03:16:49 You'd look it up. There's a number of different brands out there. And it's called... this one I have is CFS Binding Supplies. Padding Adhesive. Or Notepad Adhesive. You can use that. Notepad adhesive. And you don't think much of it at the time, but you'll find if you had some, and it's rather inexpensive, you'd find a use for it. I would recommend you pick up one of these products and take it to the office. People will be amazed by your ingenuity. You could even get a raise. You could get a raise. That's right. Here's something you can use it for.

Starting point is 03:17:29 If you want to have some fun, you go to the bank and you get a pile of fresh dollar bills. Yes, dollar bills. And you stack them up, you make sure they're even, and you put the padding adhesive on the end and then put it in your wallet. And then when you go to the store and you want to, and they ask for money,

Starting point is 03:17:46 you tear off piece after piece of the dollars from this, from this notepad, which is now a bunch of dollars, tens, 20s, you can do with any bill. They have to be obviously brand new. So you can make this work. And that would get some attention. Yes. Take it to the script or to the strip club with your dollar bills, with your little bound book of dollar bills. It's beautiful. That's right. It's a tip about tips. It doesn't get much better than that everybody. Tip about tips. and that is the conclusion of our

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