No Agenda - 1692 - "Salted Ducks"

Starting point is 00:00:00 Where's my Twinkies? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, September 5th, 2024. This is your award-winning Gimmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 1692. This is No Agenda. Spreading Russian disinformation

Starting point is 00:00:16 and broadcasting live from the cruise ship capital of Mexico, just north of Puerto Vallarta. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're wondering why you're on the run. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Craig Vaughan Buskill. In the morning. On the run.

Starting point is 00:00:32 You're on the run. You went south to the border. I'm on the lam, man. I'm on the lam. Down Mexico way. Yeah, indeed. Excuse me. Yes, Tina, this was what I thought was my only present was the... Yeah, indeed. Excuse me.

Starting point is 00:00:45 Yes, Tina, this was what I thought was my only present was this short- You got a bunch of presents. You got a shotgun. Yeah, I know. I got a lot of cool things. Completely unexpected. Sixty was a great birthday. I had no idea.

Starting point is 00:01:02 I was like, eh, let this thing pass. You want to be 60 again next year? Yeah, sure. No, I don't care. I still feel 15. That's Dvorak laugh for. Yeah, you just wait. You just wait.

Starting point is 00:01:21 Anyway, we got it all set up. It's all working. We got good bandwidth. Um, this is the new rig. Sounds okay. Sounds good. That sounds good. It sounds like it always sounds. The stream didn't sound good though.

Starting point is 00:01:32 Oh really? Oh, I haven't gotten any complaints about that stream. Didn't sound good. I mean, from my perspective, getting it through the system here, it was breaking up a lot, but you hear me. Okay. Hello. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:01:44 I was actually shocked at the difference. Okay. Hey, this was really something interesting that happened last night and I didn't even really pay much attention to it until Tina alerted me to a whole side thread about this particular occurrence. And I will start it with a short backgrounder clip. The Justice Department says it has moved aggressively to shut down what it says are Russian efforts to influence the 2024 US presidential election.

Starting point is 00:02:14 The DOJ says it sees 32 Kremlin run websites that were used to spread disinformation and propaganda. Officials say Russian operatives used AI to target US voters and generate content sharing false narratives. Two Russian nationals who are media executives at a Russian state news site have also been charged with violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act. They're accused of spending almost $10 million on the scheme, using an American American based company to create and post hundreds of English language videos. The FBI field office will continue in Philadelphia will continue to investigate the case. Now, were you following this at all? Yeah, of course. That two clips.

Starting point is 00:02:59 Oh, okay. What do you have? Yeah, right. RT busted one. Okay, RT busted one. Russia is allegedly meddling in this year's presidential election. Federal U.S. departments are now pressing charges against Russian individuals while trying to seize dozens of internet domains. NTD's international correspondent, Aryan Pazdar, has the story. The government of Russia continue to use RT to direct disinformation and propaganda. Multiple US departments on Wednesday alleging that Russia is meddling in this year's presidential elections.

Starting point is 00:03:33 The Department of Justice indicted two editors-in-chief for the Russian state-owned media outlet, RT. RT and its employees, including the defendants, implemented a nearly $10 million scheme to The department alleges that the two individuals violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act. In return for the money, the Tennessee company allegedly created English content, which it then posted on Instagram, YouTube, X and other platforms. The Treasury Department also sanctioned the two editors, plus nine others, over the alleged meddling in the elections. RT responded with ridicule, saying three things are certain in life – death, taxes and RT's interference in the US elections. And separately from the actions against RT, the FBI and the Justice Department are also seeking court permission to seize 32 websites, so-called cyber squaddomains.

Starting point is 00:04:35 These websites were designed to appear to American readers as if they were major US news sites like the Washington Post or Fox News. But in fact, they were fake sites. Alright, couple things before we move on. First of all, the Foreign Agent Registration Act. Does this really qualify if someone is paying someone to set up, you know, whether it's a fake news site or just a news site. I mean, this is not, they're not lobbying Congress.

Starting point is 00:05:12 Does Farah really qualify for this? This is a good question I can't answer. They like to throw that. I mean, well, how come Hunter Biden hasn't been charged with that? Well, so if I look at justice.gov and there's here's the Farah, Foreign Agents Registration Act was enacted in 1938, requires certain agents of foreign principles who are engaged in political activities or other activities specified under the statute to make periodic

Starting point is 00:05:42 public disclosure of their relationship with the foreign principal, which I think RT is kind of disclosed that, as well as activities receipts and disbursements in support of those activities. I mean, it doesn't, first of all, we're the kings of this. You know, hello voice of America. Hello voice of Europe. I got some clips coming up. This is obviously complete crud. But the thing that got really interesting is the Tennessee company that's mentioned

Starting point is 00:06:15 in these clips. Well, let's play the second part of this and then we can talk about that. The DOJ published examples of such sites. For example, this one, which appears to be a Washington Post article stating, Middle East coalition of US allies crumbles like a house of cards. Or another fake article reading, no more money, Kremlin will solve Ukraine's problem. The FBI is now working to take these sites down. The two indicted editors for RT remain at large. actions against foreign actors associated with the Russian government who are attempting to covertly influence our elections.

Starting point is 00:07:07 Specifically, all these federal agencies revealed activities directed and funded by RT, formerly known as Russia Today, to covertly spread Russian government propaganda with the aim of reducing international support for Ukraine, bolstering pro-Russian policies and interests and influencing voters here in the US and in foreign elections as well. For their part, the Treasury Department is sanctioning six executives and officials affiliated with RT, three executives associated with other Kremlin controlled organizations. And additionally, the Treasury Department is designating ANO Dialogue, a Russian government founded nonprofit that uses artificial Treasury Department is designating a no dialogue a Russian government funded

Starting point is 00:07:45 I'm sorry a Russian government founded nonprofit that uses artificial intelligence to create To be online Russian disinformation for use against election campaigns. Okay, so we have a lot of by the way Yeah, why is he so breathless? He sounds like he's hyperventilating. Well whole little thing. Well, I was breathless he sounds like he's hyperventilating well whole little thing well I would say what is going on with him well I would say that the main reason that he is out here and I have you have clips I have other clips I don't know if the clips any different than that one well this is military industrial complex this is hey hey hey hey we've got people speaking against Ukraine and he's you know he's the rear admiral.

Starting point is 00:08:25 So they bring in the ex-military guy. They say, oh no, we can't have this. We can't have sites out there and AI generated content that goes against the narrative of Russia bad, Ukraine good. But what, and this is funny because Tina, she unrelated said, have you seen what's going on with Tim Pool? Now this is the part of the story where it gets interesting. It's funny because Tina, she unrelated said, have you seen what's going on with Tim Poole? Now this is the part of the story where it gets interesting.

Starting point is 00:08:56 The Nashville or the Tennessee based company that received $9.7 million to create 2000 different YouTube videos is Tenet Media. Yeah. Tenet Media, I'll just read from their website, fearless voices live here. And the talent, meet the talent, Lauren Southern, Tim Poole, Taylor Hansen, Matt Christensen, Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson. So it turns out that-

Starting point is 00:09:22 The Benny Show? The Benny Show. Well, there's a couple of things to focus on. So it turns out that- The Benny Show? The Benny Show. Well, there's a couple of things to focus on. Turns out that, you know, Tim Pool has his regular Pool Boy show, right? With everyone at the desk and yelling back and forth. But there was another one-

Starting point is 00:09:36 Beanie. Beanie Boy show. Another one, which is the Culture War show. Now check this out. It turns out that he was receiving to produce one episode a week, they're about two hours, $100,000 an episode for a two hour basic, you know, just podcast.

Starting point is 00:09:59 And I've always wondered, like, he is always flying guests in and, you know, he's got that, you know, swanky studio in West Virginia, there's a lot going on, and he's got, it seems to be good budget, and now it's like, okay. So he was making about $5 million a year for producing one episode a week, and this was a show that they had licensed,

Starting point is 00:10:24 so he wasn't necessarily doing it. It wasn't like he was talking to the Kremlin, but he was making the show. It was licensed to Tenant Media. And so this has put Tim Poole, Benny Johnson, Dave Rubin in a very precarious situation. I'd say I'll read his statement. My Tim Poole statement. I'd say I'll read his statement My team pool statement my statement regarding allegations in the DOJ indictment Should these allegations prove true I as well as the other personalities and commentators were deceived and we are victims. I

Starting point is 00:11:03 Cannot speak for anyone else at the company as to what they do or what they are instructed. The Culture War podcast was licensed by Tenet. Now, by the way, this was not mentioned anywhere in the indictment. I read the indictment. Yeah, I read it too. I didn't hear any of this. So he's telling us that it was about the Culture War podcast was licensed by Tenet Media. It existed well before any license agreement with Tenet and it will continue to exist after such agreement expires. The only change with the agreement was the location of the live broadcast moved to tenants YouTube channel. I and TCW never produce any content for tenant media. Now I'm thinking that tenant media probably also, you get these emails, suggested guests. Hey, you should have this guy on as a guest.

Starting point is 00:11:41 You know what I mean? You get those emails for no, for no agenda. I get tons of those. Yeah, no agenda. This would be a great guest for no agenda. You have never listened. You dope, because we don't have guests. Never at any point did anyone other than I have full editorial control of the show and the contents of the show are often apolitical examples, including discussing spirituality, dating, and video games. The show is produced and it's entirely by our local team, blah, blah. That being said, we still do not know what is true as these are only allegations. Putin is a scumbag. Russia sucks donkey balls. And to the...

Starting point is 00:12:11 That doesn't work. She protesteth too much, me thinketh. And to the journalists who wish to jump the gun, create their own narrative or lie about what is currently going on, you can eat my Irish ass. Okay. So then, uh, Benny Johnson, that's actually in this statement. Yes. Which is not good. No. And then Benny Johnson, a statement on the leak DOJ indictment today, a year ago, a media startup pitched my company to provide content as an independent contractor. Our lawyers negotiated a standard arms length deal, which was later terminated.

Starting point is 00:12:45 We are disturbed by the allegations in today's indictment, which makes clear that myself and other influences were victims in this alleged scheme." So there's the victim meme. My lawyers will handle anyone who states or suggests otherwise. Oh boy. And then Dave Rubin, who doesn't know him, statement on... But Rubin was working for Glenn Beck. I'm just...

Starting point is 00:13:06 I don't know. Statement on the DOJ indictment. These allegations clearly show that I and other commentators were the victims of this scheme. So, seems like they had some... Victims seems to be the theme. Common advice here. You nailed that.

Starting point is 00:13:20 I knew absolutely nothing about any of this fraudulent activity, period. People of the internet was a silly show. So nowhere did I see this mentioned, but he knows what it's about. They know what is going on here. People of the internet was a silly show covering viral videos which ended four months ago. The DOJ has never contacted me regarding this matter and I have no intention to comment further this screenshot directly from the indictment speaks for itself. So There was a lot of money flowing around

Starting point is 00:13:48 and You know, so of course what is happening is people are saying hey you're getting a hundred thousand dollars for a two-hour episode podcast didn't you think something might have been up with that and then People are pulling clips from old Tim Poole shows and this is a 45 second one and they're saying oh yeah you traitor you took Russian money but I don't know that it matters anymore this is psychotic Ukraine is the enemy of this country Ukraine is our enemy being funded by the Democrats I will stress again one of the greatest enemies of our nation right now is Ukraine. They are expanding this war. Now don't get me wrong, I know. You've got criminal elements of the US government pushing them and guiding them and telling them what to do. is now accused, a German warrant issued for blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline,

Starting point is 00:14:52 triggering this conflict. Ukraine is the greatest threat to this nation and to the world. We should rescind all funding and financing, pull out all military support, and we should apologize to Russia. It's a little different than his, you know, can suck donkey balls quote. So, so I think what's going on here is the just department of justice, which, you know, obviously all Democrats, Biden, Obama operatives, they're, they're doing some kind of mega sweep here. Where first of all, we bring back in Russia's trying to get Trump elected. And then they bring in anyone who's ever been positive about Trump or, uh, or positive about Russia and, and implicating them where they're actually,

Starting point is 00:15:34 you know, they were licensing content, it seems. I don't think that they were necessarily knowledgeable about what happened, but this discredits a lot of alternative media, makes people very suspicious. Yeah. It's kind of good. I mean, as in it's a, it's a, it's a good op that they've pulled here. Well, I think that the op of course is done, is being done by the justice

Starting point is 00:15:58 department in conjunction with the military industrial complex as a preemptive strike against Trump. Yes. conjunction with the military industrial complex as a preemptive strike against Trump. So when Trump gets in, if he does, which we they're not absolutely sure they can pull off getting Kamala in if they even want to, they have this all set up. So everything now, that if you, if you pull the plug on your crane, you're part of this op, of the supposed op. So Trump has to tread lightly when he gets, he can't just pull a, you know, who is it,

Starting point is 00:16:30 Kennedy or, or I get, no, I guess it's Tulsi, you know, they want to just pull the plug on Ukraine, just drop of a hat. But what Trump has to do, because now he's screwed. This is a pre screw job again, aimed at Trump. And what he has to do is end the war immediately. By going over there. Right. Cause that's the only thing he can do.

Starting point is 00:16:54 He can't stop funding. Yep. So yeah, it's, it's a mil, that's the first thing I thought is like, he got Kirby out there and he did an interview with PBS You want to hear some of that? Sure. Yeah, cuz when PBS gets involved. Oh now it's this is ten million dollars What is ten million dollars in the in the realm of? Disinformation is that like some huge amount that I'm unaware of and okay it funded

Starting point is 00:17:21 pool boy and Benny boy and Dave boy Who were probably oblivious to it and were just thinking I'm that good Okay, it funded Pool Boy and Benny Boy and Dave Boy, who were probably oblivious to it and were just thinking, I'm that good. Absolutely. That's exactly right. And by the way, we would be like, yeah, we're that good. We deserve this kind of money to license our content. Spotify licensed Joe Rogan's content for millions.

Starting point is 00:17:45 I can see where you get, I don't want to implicate any of these people, but they certainly got wrapped up in something. So here's PBS on this story. Now to the day's other top story, foreign efforts to interfere with the US presidential election. In a press conference this afternoon, US Attorney General Merrick Garland outlined what he called sophisticated disinformation campaigns undertaken by Russia and other adversaries. Sophisticated 2000 YouTube videos? That sophisticated?

Starting point is 00:18:16 Promoting lies via fake news outlets and real social media influencers. And Garland issued this warning. The Justice Department's message is clear. We have no tolerance for attempts by authoritarian regimes to exploit our demographic system of government. Because that's our job. That's what we do. We will be relentlessly aggressive encountering and disrupting attempts by Russia and Iran, as well as China or any other foreign malign actor to interfere in our elections and undermine

Starting point is 00:18:54 our democracy. Oh, our democracy is being undermined by propaganda. Look at the M5M, bro. Anyways. The thing about this is another aspect which makes me think this is a preemptive strike and it all has to do with Ukraine. It's got nothing to do with the elections at all. It's Ukraine. I completely agree. And to balance that, that argument, they brought in Iran.

Starting point is 00:19:17 As the foil to say, well, Iran was interfering with Trump because they were going after Trump in different ways. They're going to assassinate him. They're're gonna do this and that. So they keep the balance. It wasn't that they were trying to get Trump in or trying to get Kamala in. It was they're trying to mess with the election kind of in general, but in fact it's got nothing to do with the elections. It has only to do with Ukraine. Yes. Very well done, I think. So now they bring, and of course, because if you listen to, I mean, listen to our show,

Starting point is 00:19:52 we know what went down in Ukraine, we know how it happened, everyone knows the backstory, we've been following that since 2014. We know, you know, cookies, Maidan, we saw it all happening, the expansion of NATO. Yeah, the cookies, Brennan was there. The cookies was there, the head of our CIA is there. And I think the giveaway is bringing in retired rear admiral John Kirby, because he is the military industrial complex spokes hole, and he will explain how this interference.

Starting point is 00:20:19 Breathlessly, I might add, with his hyperventilating, because he knows that he... He knows. I don't know if he's really goodating because he knows that he... He knows... I don't know if he's really good at... He's not as good an actor as he should be. No, but he's all they got, so they'll just take it. He does the job, but it's like... He gets the job done.

Starting point is 00:20:37 And also, PBS immediately doing this big story. That's not typical for some phony websites and some domain names they didn't like which they don't mention. They never really did much about the Macedonian kids who did a lot more damage than these guys. Alright here's Kirby. Joining us now from the White House is National Security Council spokesman retired Rear Admiral John Kirby. Admiral Kirby welcome back thanks for joining us. Thank you so much for having me. So these efforts,

Starting point is 00:21:07 I think it's safe to say, are a long way. She's already laugh telling. Safe to say, no, my goodness. So these efforts, I think it's safe to say, are a long way from Russian intelligence hacking and dumping emails like they did with

Starting point is 00:21:22 the DNC back in 2016. Yeah, right you are, because it's not about the election, lady. Just before we dig into some of hacking and dumping emails like they did with the DNC back in 2016. Yeah, right you are, cuz it's not about the election, lady. Just before we dig into some of the specifics today, big picture and briefly, what does all of this say to you about how Russian election interference has evolved over the years? Well, they've gotten more sophisticated, they've gotten more organized. And quite frankly, they've-

Starting point is 00:21:43 Wait, if they were more sophisticated sophisticated they wouldn't have gotten caught it's organized they've got pool boy yeah it's sophisticated and organized more sophisticated they've gotten more organized and quite frankly they've gotten more more funding wait stop a second i gotta put this in there i'm just gonna be interrupted a lot that's all right that's all right it's good stuff. When you say quite frankly, are you lying the rest of the time? Well, of course To tell you the truth Adam. Yes What I'm not lying

Starting point is 00:22:17 Honestly, there's another one honestly, I'd like to say All of these more organized and quite frankly, they've gotten more, more funding, uh, support right at the top of the Kremlin. We believe Mr. Putin, 10 million more funding. What's he comparing that funding to the $100,000 they spent on Facebook ads back in 2020, 2016. That was a, was a scandal. Or the 400 million Zuckerberg pumped into everything. Yeah, yes, exactly.

Starting point is 00:22:47 Compare that to 400 million Zuckerberg pumped into Wisconsin alone. Getting of this scheme or these schemes, I should say there's more than one, but they've gotten a lot more clever. And unfortunately for them, we've gotten pretty clever too. We got pretty smart as well. We were able to detect and monitor these threats.

Starting point is 00:23:07 And as you saw today, take action to hold them accountable. Oh, yeah. We were able to detect these threats. It's a website. Oh, no. With a phony story. It's a website. Well, we were able to detect this threat.

Starting point is 00:23:20 And notice how they say Washington Post and Fox News. Let's get both sides of the spectrum. You know what I mean? Again, that brings us back to bringing in Iran, so we have the balance. So it's not really about the elections. It's about Ukraine and the money we're spending. So one of these schemes, as you put it, let's kind of break it down here. The Department of Justice has charged two employees of a Russian state controlled media

Starting point is 00:23:42 outlet, RT, saying that they poured $10 million into an effort to distribute content. They poured it in. Oh, it's 10 million. Oh, man, they poured it in to influencers. They don't even call them podcasters. They're calling them influencers. That they poured $10 million into an effort to distribute content with hidden Russian

Starting point is 00:24:04 government messaging. Hidden messaging. How hidden is it? Ukraine's no good. That's hidden. It's hidden messaging. Oh, it's subliminal. It's subliminal frames.

Starting point is 00:24:15 What kind of messaging are we talking about and where might people have seen that? Well, a great example of the messaging, for instance, was blaming Ukraine and the United States for the terrorist attack that happened in Moscow several months ago. Oh, this one. That's interesting. Yeah, this, I almost had this clip that they've been harping on this particular, this and one other example is Kirby's main thing, which was this switcheroo about this attack in Russia. We all know was conducted by ISIS.

Starting point is 00:24:50 Even ISIS acknowledged that they conducted that attack on that concert hall. We all know. Yeah, we all know. ISIS tweeted it, man. They put a statement on X. So that was one example. Another example was continuing to put out information to undermine Ukraine's fight for its own democracy and for its sovereignty. So it's messaging and just-

Starting point is 00:25:11 Another Laugh Tell, by the way. Yeah, good point. Ukraine's fight for its own democracy. They're laughing because he's joking about, because he knows it's no democracy. This guy's canceled elections, shut down the press. It's out of control what this guy's doing. For its own democracy and for its sovereignty. So it's messaging and disinformation. It's propaganda that tries to undermine public support for what Ukraine's trying to do to defend itself. And a range of other things Russia wants to do to sort of portray the United States as some sort of evil actor in the world. So there's a lot of things Russia wants to do to sort of portray the United States as some sort of evil actor in the world.

Starting point is 00:25:46 So there's a series of initiatives that they're undertaking, again, to undermine faith and confidence in democracy writ large, certainly undermine faith and confidence in America's democracy. America's democracy, we're going to be talking a lot about America's democracy today. So now we go to the other schemes. Let's go to those sneaky websites. One of the other schemes laid out was related to the Department of Justice seizing 32 internet domains that they say were used to spread Russian propaganda with the aim of influencing voters in

Starting point is 00:26:18 the US and foreign elections, including the US 2024 presidential election. I just wanna show for viewers here, the websites were designed to look like US information and new sites like these that you're seeing right now that look exactly like Washington Post articles, but they are not. Admiral Kirby, can these kinds of sites be taken down faster than they can keep going up? Is it safe to assume this information's still out there?

Starting point is 00:26:43 Well, we're certainly gonna keep having conversations with tech companies about making sure they're aware of these threats. What tech companies? What are they going to be talking to GoDaddy for domain names? Or when he said we'll be talking to, is this another one of those don't worry about section 230, we won't take it away from you conversations? I don't like this. We'll be talking to tech companies.

Starting point is 00:27:13 Yeah, let's listen to what else he has to say here. Because with tech companies about making sure they're aware of these threats and these uh... these actors out there uh... we have been there still rely on them to take the decisions that uh... that they deem are appropriate to their own policies and procedures but we're certainly going to keep having that conversation uh... we can't companies but i think what you're seeing here and i'm glad you mentioned that uh... the social design agency in what they've been doing as well as that social

Starting point is 00:27:42 design agency that's tenant media they're talking about with fearless voices who live here. You know, on one hand, you've got them using RT, a former propaganda outlet, now just a full-on covert influence organization. RT covert? How is RT covert? It's not covert at all. It's overt. Now just a full-on covert influence organization It's not covert. It's overt. It's overt. Just a full-on covert influence organization to work through funding companies, even a

Starting point is 00:28:11 company here in the United States, to get them to push information out in the vein of a legitimate media outlet. And they're also working at a tactical level with social media influencers. Many of them, as the attorney general laid out, are simply made up. They're fictional persona, but they're going at it from a media outlet perspective, and they're going at it from an individual social media user perspective. Wow. I mean, first of all, I don't see what the Justice Department, I mean, you can police anything you want if this is okay. Like, oh, Bill, the onion, oh, the onion, making jokes.

Starting point is 00:28:52 No, we gotta seize their domain name. Seize their domain. Well, let's go Babylon B, the onions. Right, Babylon B. Well, exactly. You know what I'm talking about. All right, let's go with, oh yes, what is the preferred outcome? Well, when it You know what I'm talking about. All right, let's go with, yes, what is the preferred outcome?

Starting point is 00:29:06 Yes. But when it comes to influencing, especially the 2024 presidential election, Attorney General Garland said that they're seeking a preferred outcome here. It includes not Trump. That's the preferred outcome. What is that preferred outcome? What do you see this Russian propaganda working towards? Boy, leading the witness. They are working towards undermining US policies, the kinds of US policies that this administration has been laboring so hard to pursue around the world.

Starting point is 00:29:39 Shoring up alliances and partnerships in the Indo-Pacific, supporting Ukraine, obviously. But is that to say that they're working to undermine the Democratic candidate, in this case Kamala Harris? I don't have specific evidence that I can speak to about undermining a particular candidate, but we have seen in the past where Mr. Putin certainly has shown a proclivity for one particular candidate. But again, I don't want to get ahead of where we are right now.

Starting point is 00:30:06 Where we are right now is we know that they are using these tools, these vehicles, this funding to serve Discord and try to increase the community here in the United States. He is falling apart. Witness this next shorter clip. Wouldn't it help people though to spot some of this disinformation if they knew if it

Starting point is 00:30:26 tends to lean one way or the other? Well look, that's one of the things that we did today. What? Ask Alexa. That's one of the things that we did today. Ask Alexa. Alexa, is this misinformation? Well look, that's one of the things that we did today. Why the Attorney General went public, that's why we here at the White House laid it out, the State Department, the Treasury. I mean, part of the aim of educating the American people is to disclose what we're seeing out there and the kinds of content that they're putting out there. And as I said in my opening statement today in the briefing room, it can't just be the

Starting point is 00:31:04 government doing this. We need the help of American citizens to bear a hand here and to carefully and scrupulously take a look at what you're digesting, the news information that you're getting online or elsewhere to try to make sure that you're getting the absolute best, credible, most accurate information you can. Get it from the good sources, not those crazy alt media guys. No, pool boy, Tucker, none of them are good. Let's wrap it up.

Starting point is 00:31:33 It is also worth pointing out, people start voting in this election very soon, within days. And the last day of voting, election day is just over 60 days away. A lot of this content has already been out there for a while, has had millions of views. Are these steps and actions coming too late to have an impact?

Starting point is 00:31:49 Too late. Well, we certainly hope not. I mean, I would just tell you that the timing today was driven by the scope of the investigation that the attorney general talked about, and he made it clear it's an ongoing investigation. So there may be additional actions here coming. I don't know, but it was driven really by the's an ongoing investigation. So there may be additional actions here coming. I don't know. But it was driven really by the status of the investigation. That was what was really on our minds. And as soon as we could package all that information up and get it out into the public domain,

Starting point is 00:32:15 we wanted to do that. Yeah, this is completely about Ukraine. And there's no coincidence of the timing. It's nothing about all the timing was just we were ready we had all the evidence no the timing is the forthcoming visit by Zelensky with his victory plan president Zelensky sat down with NBC News in his first interview since that surprise move by the way Richard Engel here doing the reporting now you've captured this territory in Russia so the big question is what do

Starting point is 00:32:50 you plan to do with it we don't need the Russian territory our operation is aimed to restore our territorial integrity we don't need their land is the plan to take more territory I will not tell him, I can't speak about it. It's like the beginning of our discourse operation. I didn't communicate anything, really. With all respect, I can't speak about it. I think that the success is very close to surprise. But conceptually, you have this territory now. You say you don't want

Starting point is 00:33:25 to keep it long term. Conceptually, we will hold it. Conceptually, we will hold it. Well, there's been… What is this? Conceptually, we'll hold this land. What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?

Starting point is 00:33:41 What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What Yeah, what does that mean? It doesn't mean it. It's bull. Let's see, conceptually, we're going to do a podcast today. Yeah, all right. But I'm staying in bed for this conceptual podcast. Yeah, exactly. Conceptually, we will hold it. Conceptually, we will hold it. Well, there's been another government shakeup

Starting point is 00:33:56 here in Ukraine. This time, the foreign minister tendering his resignation. And Craig, it's all related. I spoke to President Zelensky, and he said that what he's preparing right now is to present what he describes as his victory plan to President Biden, to Vice President Harris and to Donald Trump in the United States later this month. And he wants to arrive with some military success after the ongoing military campaign

Starting point is 00:34:22 inside Russia and with a new revitalized government. So he wants to go in with a full head of steam as he goes to Washington, it goes to the United States later this month. Yeah, it's all hand-picked government. Yeah, well, I don't know if rats are jumping the ship or exactly, I mean, it seems like a whole bunch of people said, okay, I'm out. I don't want any part of this. But the victory plan is coming.

Starting point is 00:34:48 The victory plan. So these guys are scammers. Yeah. Well, concluding of the highest order, I feel bad for these, uh, for these podcasters, but on the other hand, dude, did you not think this was odd? No I think your original analysis is absolutely on the money. I'm that good. I'm great.

Starting point is 00:35:16 I'm that good. I am fabulous. And I, whenever they throw out, I expected this. Well I was surprised it took that long. That damn Joe Rogan's making all the money. That's right. That's right. Well, anyway.

Starting point is 00:35:35 Oh man. I just, it was like, wow, this all fell into my lap. And I was like, this is crazy. So did you miss the Alexa stuff? No, I did. Yeah. I don't know about the Alexa stuff. Oh, I would, I was going to get a clip, but I figured you'd either have the

Starting point is 00:35:52 clip or knew about it or you can probably just look it up real quick. Quick. Some won't. This was about four days ago. I'm surprised you didn't catch it. Oh yeah. But she's saying Alexa give me who's going to win the elections. Is that the clip?

Starting point is 00:36:04 She said, tell me why I should vote for Donald Trump. Oh, yeah, but she's saying Alexa give me who's gonna win the elections. Is that the clip? Tell me why I should vote for Donald Trump and that Lexus says we can't tell you anything like that This is this is politics. No, no, no, no, no, you can't ask a question like that She says hey, tell me why I should vote for Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris is great She's in all these terrific things. She's a perfect candidate. She should, you should vote for her. Yeah. You know what? I'm honestly, I did see the clip. I'm so jaded by that stuff. It's like, it's like, that's standard operating procedure these days. We know what. Mimi sent a copy to me and she says, late, you know,

Starting point is 00:36:41 it was just last night and she says, uh, can you believe this? What you're behind on days ago. Yeah. She was all worked up about it. So I figured, well, maybe some, you know, somebody we should have probably, I should have probably clipped it, but that's my, but I, I'm doubting that I think 90% of our audience has heard this over and over. Yeah. Yeah. Done it every, if you watch anybody watch this Fox, every single Fox show has played this over and over. Yeah. They've done it. If you watch, anybody watch this Fox? Every single Fox show has played this. Well, that would be the main reason I didn't clip it.

Starting point is 00:37:15 Yeah, I don't know if that's the main reason you didn't clip it, you just didn't clip it. I didn't clip it either. No, but it's just like, oh, this, it's out there. The auto completes on Google search, but this is nothing new. It's all part of the same bull crap. It's out there being the auto completes on Google search come but this is this is nothing I know it's all part of the same bullcrap It's nothing new and and you know that you're getting different results than I'm getting based upon your location or anything I used to go. Oh, yeah, I use

Starting point is 00:37:37 Now what's that thing I use I? Paying duck duck go just you know I go to Google once for one purpose and one purpose only, maps. I'll put an address and I'll do it through Google because the best mapping stuff that they take you around, you can get directions is great. You like flying around people's houses. But for everything else I use DuckDuckGo. DuckDuckGo does a better job of showing images, which I use for the newsletter

Starting point is 00:38:02 occasionally, and it organizes them better. And I just think the results are better with that product. And then they supposedly don't track you, but I don't believe that. No, they try. I use Kagi, K-A-G-I. And I pay for it. Yeah. Yeah, you do. And I would say for 98% of all my searches, Kagi is good. Some of the historical stuff, like really old stuff they may not have. So let's just talk about American democracy for a moment.

Starting point is 00:38:34 And I put together this series of clips because I, here's an example of some of the emails I've received. Please don't let your disfavor or hatred of Elon get the best of you. This judge... That's just Adam by the way. I think Elon's great. This judge is an absolute tyrant who tells people to censor people he just doesn't like and tells them it's illegal for them to say the order came from him. It really feels like you just don't like Elon so badly that you're ignoring a huge story and mock Musk for saying he's standing up for free speech as if everything he does has to be disingenuous. So first of all... Is that the same tone of voice I get probably? Sounds like a guy would say

Starting point is 00:39:22 that to you. You know those guys, yeah. But I get a lot of these. And here's my tip. I don't know why they... I don't have the issue with Musk at all, but at the same time, I don't see why everyone's defending him to such an extreme, as if the guy can't defend himself. Or is it... Well, also... I mean, it just doesn't make sense to me that people are all crazy about this.

Starting point is 00:39:45 Also there's two of us, there's Adam and John. And aren't you happy that someone is looking over his shoulder just in case? That's what I've been trained to do throughout almost 17 years. When everyone's all goo goo gaga, I'm looking the other way. I do the same thing with you and your religious, religiosity. I have no religiosity. Okay. All right. I don't know what that statement was about.

Starting point is 00:40:15 Well, I'm just saying it's not as though that you're looking, you know, making sure I don't foul up and I'm always looking at your foibles. Of course, but this is not about you. This is about Elon. So I just want to, here's the reasons why. I saw that he brought in electric vehicles and kicked off an entire climate change based narrative. I agree.

Starting point is 00:40:43 Now this part about the complaint I'm all in on, because it did cause a problem. And he's all in on climate tax or carbon tax and carbon credits. In fact, he lives off of it. He is one of the biggest... Exploitative is the word you're looking for. One of the biggest military contractors for lots of spooky stuff, including the National Reconnaissance Office and Space Force. But we're all like, oh, he's so great.

Starting point is 00:41:12 He's Tony Stark. He's the best. Well, that's a bit much. Well, that's out there. Just look at the pictures of him in that red Halloween suit and he's always like, oh, he looks so dapper with his hair plugs. And I've met the guy. I was there at the launch of Tesla, which he didn't invent.

Starting point is 00:41:33 He bought it. He supposedly spends 80% of his time doing engineering. Seems like he spends 80% of his time on X shitposting. Nowadays, for sure. So, you know, and you can see the woman who really runs SpaceX. She's a former, I think, NRO lady. I mean, you know, he's got people in all these different places doing the work. He's flying around.

Starting point is 00:41:59 He's doing whatever he needs to do, which is fine. But when you spend... Well, the one thing he does, which is not easy to do, in my opinion, it's the hardest thing to do, is he hires the right people to do this job that makes it look like he's doing it. Yeah. Well, I'm, I'm a little more skeptical about who's running, who's hiring, but doesn't, doesn't really matter. Um, but when, when everyone's all jacked up about, yeah, free speech, yeah, it's great, X is great.

Starting point is 00:42:26 That's what I'm like, yeah, it's always great when someone's on your team. But it's the same with deplatforming. It's always great when someone else gets deplatformed who you don't like, who you disagree with, but these tools can be turned around on a dime and be focused at you. Well, in fact, Twitter proves that.

Starting point is 00:42:46 So this, well, yes. In fact, I got another note from a guy. I'll read this. It was turned around on a dime and now it's going at the other direction. This is from Coconut Pete. I've been on Twitter since the beginning in 2007. I've experimented with different accounts

Starting point is 00:42:59 for various projects, sometimes just playing around with random accounts. From my experience using Twitter under Jack and Elon, I think I can say with certainty that the free speech in quotes under Elon is definitely worse. Under Jack, there were always lots of crazy tweets flying around, perhaps the worst case scenario, what might get shadow banned,

Starting point is 00:43:16 but at least you could keep your account and vent to yourself thinking you were changing the world. Most people think that Elon is the savior of free speech and he loves to brand himself this way, but they don't see the many other layers of censorship right in front of their face such as unpaid peasant accounts get little to no visibility. I agree. Paid accounts get more visibility.

Starting point is 00:43:37 Ex-premium accounts get more exposure. Remember the whole mantra was freedom of speech, not of reach. Then if you're a well-known celebrity or public figure that has the max account on X You probably have more free speech and leeway than anyone else. He goes on to say one of my accounts I just got suspended. I believe for applying to someone saying they were an idiot If you do get suspended if you do get suspended, there's no explanation why? So, you know this and and I believe this to be true. So anyway, we're back to democracy

Starting point is 00:44:11 and free speech in America. And this brings me to X and Brazil, which I have some thoughts on. And we'll start with a backgrounder from Fox Live, who bring us up to speed on where we are with X being banned in Brazil. The social media platform... By the way these guys have some click in their audio which is not me but it's in there.

Starting point is 00:44:31 The social media platform formerly known as Twitter remains offline in one of South America's largest countries. Brazil's Supreme Court unanimously upheld a ban of the site X by its top judge on Monday. The ruling blocks access nationwide for some 40 million users and mandates ex-founder Elon Musk pay more than $3 million in fines and nominate a legal representative within the country. I don't know how far we can go. It's strange how far we're getting in terms of information and the limitations they're trying to put on the population. The court's top judge, Alexander de Moraes, suspended X last week, claiming it allows the spread of misinformation.

Starting point is 00:45:13 He also set a daily fine of nearly $9,000 for anyone using virtual private networks to access the platform. Musk said the ruling is destroying free speech, adding, the current Brazilian administration likes to wear the cloak of a free democracy while crushing the people under its boot. Brazil's president issuing this warning. Having a lot of money does not allow you to disrespect it. He is not a citizen of the world.

Starting point is 00:45:42 He can't offend presidents, congressmen, the senate, or the supreme court. In addition to the ban on eggs, the court has also frozen satellite internet provider Starlink's financial accounts in Brazil, which is owned by Musk. Okay, so that's kind of the backgrounder. And I found this, um, uh, Brazil, professor of Brazilian studies on France 24, who was commenting on it. And it kind of gave me like, oh yeah, this makes total sense because this is about,

Starting point is 00:46:10 remember we have a first amendment, we have freedom of speech. For some reason, Eon is very troubled about the freedom of speech in Brazil, which of course doesn't exist in any other country, to my knowledge, documented in the Constitution, but the United States. And everyone's like, yeah, freedom of speech, yeah! Freedom of speech is an American concept. It has no place in European democracy. It's important, but it's not central. It's not the First

Starting point is 00:46:41 Amendment. And the same situation is in Brazil. So this is clearly the American values being exported worldwide. It's a problem. It should be taken like this. It's the United States, the old way of seeing the United States, the First Amendment of the American Constitution being exported worldwide and been like that since the very beginning of Twitter, since the Green Revolution in Iran, since the Arab Spring, the Americans have been have been exporting the First

Starting point is 00:47:15 Amendment worldwide using social network. It's still like that and Musk is doing exactly the same thing. The value of the First Amendment is very different now. The Republicans are still very keen on preserving the First Amendment, but the Democrats are not that keen on preserving the First Amendment. So things are changing in the United States and therefore they're changing worldwide. So when I hear this I'm reminded that yes, Arab Spring, all these things set up by techno experts, Hillary Clinton's a little state department outfit there. Elon Musk is stirring up trouble and sentiment in Brazil for, I believe, for some kind of people's revolution.

Starting point is 00:47:58 And it's probably working quite well. And there's a new administration possibly coming. And he used to be a Trump hater. I think he was a Trump hater. He switched on Elon. Oh yeah. He switched on a dime and now he's going to be in the administration because there's something about Brazil that we all want to be have a part of. We'll get to that but first here's that professor for a short clip. Right and now the finances of a second Musk business, the SpaceX Starlink satellite internet service has also been frozen.

Starting point is 00:48:28 Could you tell us a bit about this and what kind of implications it may have for Brazil? Well, the Brazilian military rely on Starlink to communicate, just like Ukraine and just like many military worldwide. They need Starlink to establish communication. So, uh, Musk could theoretically stop, uh, every means of communication for the army in Brazil. Nobody knows if he's going to go that far, but he could play this game. There's a lot of leverage Elon Musk has with this.

Starting point is 00:49:03 Well, you don't want your military to communicate? I can just turn all of that off, no problem. So what is the big deal about Brazil? What do we care? Why would we want regime change? Why would we want a revolution? Kevin O'Leary shows up on, I think, Fox Business talking about Brazil. He's the, you know, he's, was he Mr. Wonderful, the super investor from Shark Tank, but he kind of-

Starting point is 00:49:31 He's on Fox a lot. Well, because he has business dealings. Shark Tank investor Kevin O'Leary is here. Kevin, great to see you. We'll talk about US in just a second, but Brazil, I used to cover it at the Wall Street Journal. It's a modern economy. A lot of US businesses deal with Brazil, but its president, a guy whose nickname is Lula,

Starting point is 00:49:53 is a Marxist. And like most Marxists, one of the first things he's done is essentially taken over the judiciary, including the Supreme Court. I just wonder what business in their right mind would want to do business in a country where this sort of thing happens? Everybody wants to do business in Brazil because of growth. The growth metrics there, the population demand

Starting point is 00:50:13 on goods and services, whether it's technology or anything else, is just straight up at almost double digits. So there's a lot of interest including me. This latest tussle, if you want to call it that, and let me be transparent about how I feel about it. As far as I'm concerned, Elon Musk is a modern day Bruce Wade.

Starting point is 00:50:37 I mean, this guy has been so successful in so many sectors. I'm a huge fan. And what I really love about him is his execution skills. But he's also got another trait which I find very endearing, and you may or may not like this. He's a real poo poo disturber, if you know what I mean. He just doesn't give a poo poo.

Starting point is 00:50:57 And I love that about him. He doesn't care what country, what dictator, what leader, what judiciary, if they don't want his technology over the Amazon where they need high speed internet, he's happy to shut it off. He doesn't care. If he doesn't get free speech,

Starting point is 00:51:12 which is why he bought, that paid 42 million or billion dollars for Twitter in the beginning. He owns it, he controls it, it's private. He can do whatever he likes. If I were the lulu Lulu as they call him I think about that little baby got a lot of people that like internet and like social media be careful on the eggshells you're walking on Lulu baby so 44

Starting point is 00:51:36 billion dollars which didn't come out of his own pocket it came from banks who have all kinds of interests out anywhere but. Saudi but also US banks who are trying to sell that debt for 30 cents on the dollar. And then O'Leary winds it up here with just explaining exactly what's going on. Yeah, it's loo-lob, but that's all right. But the real question I have for you, you mentioned it, that you're still involved there and it does have this upward trajectory. But how long can that continue if you have a Marxist leader who's controlling the judiciary who at any whim can decide that you're no good and just take over what you built there? Well, if you look at the history of those kinds of situations, the outcomes are not

Starting point is 00:52:22 good for the lulas, and thank you for correcting me, of the world, because it's what the people want, and Musk knows that. And people want technology and they want to communicate with each other, and this is one of the services they like using. I think this thing will be resolved, because when you start shutting down commerce in where there's so much productivity and opportunity in the Amazon, that hurts the country. And I think this, and look, as I said before, I just love the way he does it. He doesn't give a poo-poo.

Starting point is 00:52:52 No, he doesn't. So I'm just saying beware. He seems to be acting, everyone has a master and Musk is not masterless. He's doing stuff for different parties or interests. It's not just for free speech. I just don't believe it. Well, you're going to have to come up with something a little better than these vague generalities. I'm staying on the beat.

Starting point is 00:53:24 I'm not going to argue that he's not maybe working for the CIA or who knows who and this whole thing may be some sort of a scam. He already is. He already is. He's already working for these agencies. What we heard from Larry was useless information. No, it's about... I don't know what he's doing.

Starting point is 00:53:42 No, listen, it's about business. Well, what did he say that was worth his shit there? He said the poo poo thing. He had to keep saying it. information? No, it's about... I don't know what he's... No, listen, it's about business. What did he say that was worth his shit there? He said the poo poo thing. He had to keep saying it. It's about, he's saying that people will revolt. This is to get rile people up in Brazil and have a change in regime. They don't want the Marxists there because there's lots of good resources in Brazil and there's growth and etc etc. There's business to be done. This is the same as exporting American democracy. It's exporting American freedom of speech, which I like of course,

Starting point is 00:54:12 but it's suspicious to me. I think you're right. Yeah. Well that's the Brazilians don't think like Americans think at all. And they, they'd like Marxism. Not yet. Oh, they never will change. There's a saying about Brazil, and I've been there dozens of times. There's a saying about Brazil,

Starting point is 00:54:31 which is, Brazil's the country of the future and always will be, which is pretty much summarizes everything going on there. And they have, their mentality is, they've gone through these cycles of these Marxists then go to the radical other guy, the right winger, then the Marxists, the right winger, back and forth forever. And they just don't seem to ever get it together.

Starting point is 00:54:54 I don't know what O'Leary's thinking, or is it O'Leary? O'Leary. At all. And this whole thing with Musk is probably some other thing altogether we don't know anything about. There may be some, something, some scamish thing going on that we don't know about. Who knows? I think who the guy was good was that France 24 character that you played that clip of

Starting point is 00:55:18 that guy who had some analysis I thought was more interesting, which is that we are the only country that has enshrined in our Constitution the right to free speech and nobody else cares. They're not that jacked up about it like we are. Correct. And I think that's something we never, we just do not have at the top of our mind. We don't think like that. We think, well, everybody wants free speech, but they don't necessarily. Well, the government we don't think like that we think well everybody wants free speech but they don't necessarily well the government certainly don't and the Brazilian professor that's for sure the government here doesn't either

Starting point is 00:55:52 the Brazilian professor guy brought up one other thing which kind of stuck in my brain like oh yeah that's right another Elon hater was Glenn Greenwald Glenn Greenwald did not like did not like Elon but there was Glenn Greenwald. Glenn Greenwald did not like Elon. But this whole thing kicked off with Glenn Greenwald, who I might add is politically active and lives in Brazil. Well, it all began when Elon Musk, right after having taken control of Twitter, released some internal communication within Twitter

Starting point is 00:56:24 and gave them to Glenn Griezwald, who is well known for being behind the Snowden affair. And those communications showed that during President Bolsonaro's legacy, the legal system in Brazil censored many, many Bolsonaro's militants and fan and was doing some interference clearly in Brazil's democratic system. And it ended up by, well, as of today, censorship of Twitter in Brazil. So we can't on one hand say, oh, poor Tim Poole, he got duped by the Russian money and not think that anyone else is in that that happens to except us.

Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah, where's our Russian money? Where's our Russian millions? Hundred thousand per episode. That's what I'm waiting for. I'll be all in. Ruski Uberalis. Good to go. Ruski Uberalis.

Starting point is 00:57:22 That's a good one. Ruski Uber Aulis. That's a good one. Ruski Uber Aulis. Kind of mixed metaphor if there ever was. I don't know where it came from. Ruski Uber Aulis. Anyway. Well, the problem is that we're too damned objective. I have no hate for Elon Musk, but I just keep my eye on it and I do it for you, for you people.

Starting point is 00:57:46 I'm just keeping my eye on it. I just, you just, you can't... I like the fact that you're adamant. I like it. Yeah, you should. It gives me a counterpoint. I can just, you know, looking for flaws in your logic. I'm very happy. I'm very happy. But the resilient thing, there's more to it than we're getting. There's missing information. I'm totally convinced of that. I agree. I agree. We don't have everything yet.

Starting point is 00:58:15 But for a guy who spent $44 billion of other people's money, has completely blown all advertising away. No one wants to advertise there anymore. You know, and everyone's running, Oh, Elon's the best, you know, with, with, you know, I had, I think it was Horowitz who brought it up. So I said, just a cesspool Twitter's bad. And it went on. It just said something minor. I feel just the opposite. As far as I'm concerned, after Elon took over Twitter, it is hilarious.

Starting point is 00:58:48 As you always bitch about, I'm too much reposting too many things. I think Twitter is funnier than it's ever been. It's got more nutballs, even though a lot of it's derivative because they steal TikTok clips and put them on Twitter. A lot of the best stuff is TikTok still. But just so we know, them on Twitter. A lot of the best stuff is TikTok still. But TikTok is... Just so we know, I've never said I don't like what X is. I mean, I think it's funny too. It's better than Macedon. It is, it's really funny.

Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah. No, I'm... They have a lot of phony baloney AI stuff that's really... Have you seen the one with Pence with the fly on his forehead? Hold on. There's another thing. Elon Musk started open AI, started it to warn everybody and to keep the dangers, the danger of artificial intelligence in check. And now he's got the most outrageous grok thing running, which does anything crazy you want it to. So how does that work? What is his actual modus operandi? It's not to make money on X because that we know is not happening.

Starting point is 00:59:57 Unless he gets all of his money stuff settled. Well, he's definitely posting too much on Twitter with commentary. He's either posts or reposts with commentary. He's always putting the little thing, wow, he'll put that a lot. And look at this or, oh, this is bad. And he seems to spend more time on Twitter than Trump used to. Yes. Which makes you wonder who's running these companies.

Starting point is 01:00:24 And I follow that, you know, his jet account is. Oh, I've never followed the jet account. It's still on Mastodon. The guy, because he got kicked off of Twitter for doing that and the guy still posts on Mastodon. So I follow him there. And Musk is flying every day. So he's flying, he's in the air. He's tweeting when he's in the sky. Yeah, of course, of course. But you know, so is he really running companies? I'm wondering about that, which again brings me back to my original point, which is I think he knows how to hire people and he seems to be good at it.

Starting point is 01:00:58 Or he's been installed to run Kleiner Perkins and Sequoia companies. He's just, he's a front man for the Intel community. Probably. I mean, when I saw him with Rulof Bota, who is now the CEO of Sequoia Capital, he was his handler clearly during the Tesla launch. The guys at PayPal kicked him out. They hated him. So, you know, look, I'm just- I don't see him hanging around with Peter Thiel or any of the guys from PayPal. No, because they hate him.

Starting point is 01:01:34 They thought he was kooky, didn't like him. Didn't like what he was doing, thought he was not a minor player. I mean, there's lots of evidence they don't, the PayPal mafia doesn't like him. So, you know, who, who, who like each other possibly. So, but I have no hatred towards Elon. I think it's phenomenally funny, but I am definitely keeping my eyes open for humanity. Yeah, not me. You're just retweeting like, look at this nutball.

Starting point is 01:02:09 You are all in on it. You love it. Yeah, it's great. I know you think it's great, but you know, some of us care about the world. Well, at some point you get over that. Yeah, well I'm not there yet. You're getting there. No, no, no. I have at least another ten years before I become like that. No. Let's do the three by three and talk about this.

Starting point is 01:02:35 Alright, now it's time for three by three. Yeah baby, experiment by JCD. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC. The never-ending three-by-three. So the Jones Boys syndicate are back in action for you, huh? They, or did they? Steve, yeah, Steve sent these in. Steve Jones, yes.

Starting point is 01:02:54 It fits in because I had a series of three clips on China spies. Ah, yes, okay. Perfect. So I wanted to play the three-by-three to see what the network was doing, then we'll go to NTD and better stories Because it gets me no NTD Hates China. Yes. Yes exactly. All right. Where do we start? This is ABC CBS NBC the Spies in America we have several of them it turns out. Yeah, I think well, there's a lot of spies. Let's face it

Starting point is 01:03:22 Yeah, but there's everyone's all shocked and my favorite stuff is coming up with the discovery that there's spies in the Chinese embassies. Oh no. Oh no. Because we don't do that. Ever. No, no, no. It's nothing we would ever do. No way.

Starting point is 01:03:37 Okay. So let's start with the short one and start with NBC. Okay. The former top aide to New York Governor Kathy Hoco was arrested today on charges of acting as a secret agent of the Chinese government. Chief Justice contributor Jonathan Deans is following this and John, according to prosecutors, how did this work? Yeah, well, prosecutors say Linda Sun betrayed her official office by instead acting on requests of Chinese communist government officials.

Starting point is 01:04:03 Sun is charged with acting as an unregistered foreign agent. Her husband was also arrested today. He's accused of laundering millions of dollars from China into the U.S. The couple pleaded not guilty in federal court. According to the indictment, the scheme went on for years. In return, Sun and her husband were allegedly given business opportunities in China and luxury gifts. The FBI says the pair used that money to buy a four million dollar home on Long Island and a two million dollar condo in Hawaii. Governor Hockel's office says Sun was fired last year after evidence of misconduct was discovered. Lester misconduct that's now classified as misconduct?

Starting point is 01:04:45 She also worked for Cuomo. And the thing that's funny is that she or she is an assistant working in the government, driving a Ferrari, and nobody's suspicious of this. Perp, perp. Hey, Kathy. So what I missed in all of these news reports, and I don't know if it, because you have two other ones here, did Hokel come out and talk to anybody about this? Has anyone asked her to speak on camera? Oh no, Hokel claims that she's responsible

Starting point is 01:05:12 for them, for kicking her out. Oh, okay. Oh, smart move. That's what she said. No, she came out and she said, yeah, she was suspicious. I don't think the Ferrari, as for a government worker, was much evidence, but okay.

Starting point is 01:05:26 And how stupid are you as a spy to be rolling around in a Ferrari? Yeah, there you go. That's actually a good point. Why would a good spies don't go around driving around Ferraris and the him and James Bond might, but you know, we're talking about real spies. Well, you know, there's so much, there's so much corruption. You see all these, like that mayor, you know, all of these people who get into government places, a lot of them women, actually, and then they just go nuts on spending and buying cars and taking trips and think that

Starting point is 01:05:59 no one will figure it out because I think the corruption is so deep and the money has been flowing for so long. I'm talking decades. They're delusional. Yes. Yes. They're totally delusional. Let's go to ABC's report. Tonight, a former aide to two New York governors has been arrested and charged with spying

Starting point is 01:06:18 for China. Authorities searching the Long Island home of Linda Sun and her husband, Chris Hu. Federal prosecutors say the couple received... Who? Who? Who? Who? Who?

Starting point is 01:06:31 Who? Who? Who's spying? Husband Chris Hu. Federal prosecutors say the couple received millions in kickbacks from China and laundered the monetary proceeds to buy the mansion in Manhasset, New York for $3.5 million, a condominium in Honolulu, Hawaii for nearly $2 million, and various luxury automobiles, including a Ferrari. Son worked for former Governor Andrew Cuomo and his successor, Governor Kathy Hochul,

Starting point is 01:06:51 for more than a decade and never disclosed any benefits she received. Instead, prosecutors say she acted as an undisclosed agent of China, allegedly blocking representatives of the Taiwanese government from having access to the New York State Governor's Office and changing the governor's messaging regarding issues of importance to the Chinese. Sun traveled to China, as seen in this photo included in the indictment, where prosecutors say she met with officials from the Chinese Communist Party. She and her family also allegedly received gifts from China, including tickets to shows, concerts and events, as well as salted ducks prepared by a Chinese

Starting point is 01:07:25 government official's personal chef. Sonia is a naturalized US citizen who was born in China and rose to become Hokel's deputy chief of staff. Late today, Hokel responding. I'm furious and I'm outraged. Oh, there she is. And I'm absolutely shocked at how brazen her behavior was. It was a betrayal of trust.

Starting point is 01:07:42 The trust of government, the trust of the people and I'll tell you this the second we discovered some levels of misconduct we fired her. And a representative for former Governor Cuomo saying that while he was in office, Son had little to no interaction with the governor. You know it's kind of funny in the parallel universe before we left for for our quote-unquote vacation we finished up VEEP and... Oh you finally finished VEEP. parallel universe before we left for our quote unquote vacation. We finished up Veep. Oh, you finally finished Veep.

Starting point is 01:08:09 Yeah. And so in the last season where they kind of compress everything and get it done, they didn't even have a full season it seemed like, she's running for president again, Selena Meyer, and she hires a campaign manager and it's the wrong guy. She thought it was some other guy and this dork, like a total dork, he comes in and they keep shutting them out of meetings, everything, and you know, because actually she has someone else running the campaign.

Starting point is 01:08:37 And then it turns out that guy is actually a Chinese operative and then he turns around and starts threatening her like, oh no you if you don't do that we're Gonna we'll never let you become president She says you know you got to take care of my husband they blow her that guy calls the Chinese They blow up her ex-husband on his boat. You know it's just like it's wow It's like this has been going on and that's why they parody it You know these spies and the ones you never expect except the Ferrari might have been a clue.

Starting point is 01:09:10 The Ferrari. Ferrari. You know, when you look at it, she also did a speech. She gave a speech on DEI and how important it was. Oh, yeah, there you go. And she's, I've seen that this, when you see see her she's one of those she has a certain look that you see when you when you go to China and you're escorted by Chinese Nationals who

Starting point is 01:09:35 Know the guys were just like a guy in this case perfect English Perfect English. Yeah red flag Perfect English. Perfect English. Yeah. Red flag. Well, besides that, the sense of humor, it's weird because they, they can't do, they can't deal, you have this theory about sarcasm in certain cultures, but the Chinese, perfect speaking, English speaking Chinese in Chinese, Chinese, we're talking about the nationals.

Starting point is 01:10:07 Their sense of humor is not there. They don't have it. And they, you can, I remember this one, we were on this bus and there was this guy from giving us a lectures as we were driving around the bus, bunch of us. And I'm in the front and I'm making my, doing one liners, just one thing after, and I'm in the front and I'm making my, doing one liners. Just one thing after and I, I noticed this guy was, he looked at me like funny, like, what is it? Why is he saying that? And it would, and I realized he has zero sense of humor, which encouraged me to do this even more. Well, so I would say something that was incredibly funny.

Starting point is 01:10:41 We have, that was oblivious. This girl looks like that guy. We have a clip that accentuates that lack of humor. Don't laugh. Why are you laughing? Shut up. Yeah, exactly. I don't know if it was... So onward. Now we move to the CBS clip. The CIA broadcast this. And we can see what the CIA says.

Starting point is 01:11:03 Linda, what do you have to say to the allegations? Linda's son and her husband had nothing to say as they walked out of a Brooklyn federal court Tuesday. The former high-ranking aide to New York Governor Kathy Hochul and her predecessor Andrew Cuomo pleaded not guilty to several charges accusing her of a brazen scheme to serve as a secret agent of China. A lot of the allegations in this indictment are frankly perplexing, overly inflammatory. FBI agents raided Sun's Long Island home back in July. At the time, the reason was not disclosed. Now, the Justice Department alleges she shaped New York state messaging

Starting point is 01:11:42 to align with Chinese priorities, blocked references to Taiwan and government documents, and stopped meetings between state and Taiwanese representatives. In return, prosecutors allege Sun and her husband received millions of dollars in business in China, along with personal benefits such as paid travel, event tickets, and a job for a family member. Federal investigators also claim the couple laundered the profits to purchase several multi-million dollar properties and luxury cars.

Starting point is 01:12:14 Nice. Hockel's office said Son's employment was terminated in March of 2023 after evidence of misconduct. And a spokesperson for Andrew Cuomo said Sun had little interaction with the then governor and her roles under his administration. Tony. All right, Trigga. Thank you very much. I can't, you know, Cuomo is going to have to come before the, I think it's the Senate committee about, you know, the 15,000 old people he indirectly killed. But I wonder if she was, you know, this you get China, you got, you know. And why don't we do what they do with our agents? Kill them.

Starting point is 01:12:54 I find this whole thing, the one aspect of this that I find baffling is that they fired her in March and then they raided her place in July and she's still here? Why didn't her, she and her husband pull up stakes and, and head out. And is it interesting that if you look at the known Chinese spy stories, it's Hokel Democrat, it's Swalwell Democrat. And, and what's the, the old bag, what's her name? From Feinstein. 20 years.

Starting point is 01:13:28 You know, Democrats, Democrats. Keeping an eye on her. I know it's it's it's yeah. Well, let's go to what NTD has to say in place. China spies won. This is in the D. The State Department confirmed today that China's council general in New York is no longer in office

Starting point is 01:13:47 The department said diplomat Huang Ping was not expelled and left after completing his scheduled rotation The clarification came after New York governor Kathy Hokel had said she asked for the Chinese diplomat to be expelled To send a message to the Chinese officials who worked with one of her former aides Linda Sun Sun was charged yesterday with being an unregistered agent of the Chinese regime. Here's State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller addressing the issue today. Foreign interference, including attempts to influence by, through covert activities that should be registered under the foreign agents registration act and are not registered are things that we take serious very seriously as you saw by the action department of justice took yesterday. Where's the Chinese influencer cash?

Starting point is 01:14:37 You know what are those guys dumb? You got to get some of those podcasters, hint hint. You got to get some podcasters on the payroll if you really want to influence anyone in America. And by the way, this timeline, which is bothersome, March 2023, and now it's coming out, this has got to be a ramp up towards the Pacific. There's something, you're right. This is a ramp that is suspicious. Yeah. We got to start going after China pretty soon. It's been in the making for a long time. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:15:10 We have to keep the money going to Ukraine or fix that problem. So we let's set this, do this bull crap with the election interference and RT of all places. And now let's ramp this Chinese thing up. Even though I think your original point, which is why don't we just kill them like they do to our people in China. Yeah. Okay, onward.

Starting point is 01:15:36 This comes after Linda Sun, former deputy chief of staff A to Governor Hokel and former Governor Cuomo was charged with conspiring to violate the Foreign Agents Registration Act. That's on top of other charges like alien smuggling, money laundering and visa fraud. While working for state government, Sun influenced the messaging of high-level state officials. In the indictment, prosecutors alleged that Sun blocked Taiwanese government representatives from communicating with officials, as well as obtained official New York State proclamations for Chinese state representatives without authorization. So here's a commonality. So we have a Farah Act in the news today in two separate cases, one Russia to China. But you know

Starting point is 01:16:20 who's not registered under the Farah Act? APEC. Why? Because their money comes from the military industrial complex. So as long as you're in that camp, you're good to go. Influence all you want. Hmm. Yeah. This is like, come on. Okay.

Starting point is 01:16:41 So, well, this is interesting. I didn't expect this actually but 60 minutes Did a profile of Gina Raimondo? Oh god, I saw that. Yes. I got a couple clips because she goes well, let's finish this by oh, I'm sorry I thought you were done with the spies. No. No you did you play clip to did you play clip? I was that was clip to Ohip 3. I'm sorry, Clip 3. I missed that one. And joining us now to explore how Chinese consulates are involved in CCP spy operations on American soil are two guests. Nan Su is a senior investigative reporter with the Epoch Times, and Jimmy Quinn is a national security correspondent for the National Review.

Starting point is 01:17:21 Now, thank you both so much for joining us. Great to see you both again. And so I want to start with you. From your research, what is the role of Chinese consulates when it comes to the Chinese regime's overseas spy operations? Well, first of all, thank you Tiffany for having me. Now the Chinese consulate for long, long time, many years, they have been reaching out to the local different Chinese group, like overseas Chinese alumni groups, Chinese student groups, local cultural groups. For example, certain peoples from certain region, they will have speak different dialects, and so they form some of the local cultural groups and what they have done is they will have this group of after these groups of form they will keep the tight connection with only three or four basically very

Starting point is 01:18:16 small group of top leaders you know with they know the true relation between their group and Chinese consulate. And that's how the Chinese consulate control all these different groups. And expanding on that, Jimmy, we saw in 2020 when the Chinese consulate in Houston shut down video showing personnel burning papers or documents in the back. Now, from a national security perspective, what is your reaction to those videos? Well, it's important to know that the Chinese Communist Party's long arm

Starting point is 01:18:49 reaches right into American cities and the Chinese consulates are directing the hand of CCP repression. So the role that they play is that they are engaging with community members, as Nan said, and exerting the party's malign influence over politics, over community organizations. It's all part of the party's united front strategy.

Starting point is 01:19:13 This is a Red Scare repeat. A little bit. They definitely, this went on and on. I stopped it there because it goes on and on with all the different groups and the different kinds of way they do the spying and then the phony baloney police departments, including the one they set up in New York City. It's kind of fascinating. They do a decent job, but they get caught so so do we. job but they get caught so so do we. So let me now that you've said that the 60 minutes interview with Gina Raimondo where did she come from Gina Raimondo

Starting point is 01:19:52 did she just he was the governor of Rhode Island I believe really yeah Gina Raimondo hmm I will consult the book of knowledge briefly. She looks spooky by the way. She's creepy. Yeah, she is kind of creepy. Let me see. Well, it doesn't say where she comes from. I need the Wikipedia.

Starting point is 01:20:17 So she was interviewed. Why? Well, there's a couple of reasons probably when you think about this. Oh, she was in, here it is. Oh, she began her career in venture capital. Ah, yes, she was. Point Judith Capital, Rhode Island's first venture capital firm. Then she was the general treasurer of Rhode Island,

Starting point is 01:20:37 where she prioritized reforming Rhode Island's public employee pension system. Money, money, money. Okay. So she's, she's a, she's been around. She's a mover and shaker. So she... She seems dumb though. Well, you got to be careful with the dumb ones. They're the most dangerous. So she pivots from Russia to China in this interview. And we started off because it's... Well, you'll hear what she... Her whole thing and she's the... What does the Department of Commerce really do? What is their job?

Starting point is 01:21:07 That became an issue, a point that she explained in this interview, because she didn't know what it did either when she took the job. Let's see if she explains it here. What does the secretary of commerce do until now, mainly promote us businesses abroad. It had not been a high profile job till Gina Raimondo turned the second tier agency into a center of job creation, manufacturing and national security. Once the governor of Rhode Island, Raimondo at 53 seems to have come out of nowhere to

Starting point is 01:21:41 become a rising star of the Democratic Party. Got to be careful of those rising stars that come out of nowhere to become a rising star of the Democratic Party. Got to be careful of those rising stars that come out of nowhere. And of the Biden administration. As Commerce Secretary, she's running new projects that as we first reported in April could touch the lives of every American. And she's helping lead the expanding Cold War with China. Yeah. And confront Russia's aggression in Ukraine. The battlefield for both those conflicts...

Starting point is 01:22:10 What's it got to do with Russia and Ukraine? Well, it's coming up. It's technology. Technology. If you think about national security today, in 2024, it's not just tanks and missiles. It's technology. It's semiconductors. It's AI. It's not just tanks and missiles, it's technology. It's semiconductors, it's AI, it's drones. And the Commerce Department is at the Red Hot Center of technology.

Starting point is 01:22:32 The Red Hot Center. Okay, so she, this is making more sense. She's placed firmly in all of these issues with Russia and China. in all of these issues with Russia and China. And at the Red Hat Center, a global chip war that ramped up, says Gina Raimondo, when Russia invaded Ukraine. The Commerce Department stopped all semiconductor chips from being sold to Russia. Every drone, every missile, every tank has semiconductors in them. And you know, Leslie, you know we're being effective because shortly after we started that work,

Starting point is 01:23:10 we heard stories of the Russians taking semiconductors out of refrigerators, out of dishwashers, out of breast pumps. This, by the way, you just stop for a second. I heard this. This is bull crap. Of course. How many refri you can stop for a second. I heard this. This is bull crap. Of course. How many ref… I have a big refrigerator. I got dishwashers.

Starting point is 01:23:30 There's no semiconductors in any of the gear I have. And I'm in the United States with high-end gear. Yeah, but she says here they took semiconductors out of breast pumps. Yeah. Come on. And you just can't take a random semiconductor and then all of a sudden put it in a drone. I mean, is this a chip?

Starting point is 01:23:51 You can do anything. This is bullcrap. Yeah, it's a chip. That's exactly right. That's the way she, it's a chip. It's a chip. It's just, it's a chip. This is so much nonsense.

Starting point is 01:24:00 She's the same woman that we had a clip. I don't know if we actually played it, but we had the clip of her being called out on the fact that the jobs report was off and she says, well, Trump's a liar. Oh, was that her? Was that her? And she says, well, it was the Bureau of Labor Statistics that said this and then she says, I never heard of him. Hold on a second.

Starting point is 01:24:22 Liar. It would be a good... It would have Ramundo. Yeah, unfortunately I don't have... Well, she anyway, she's a dummy. That was just the other day. It was just the other day. It was recently, yes.

Starting point is 01:24:38 Jobs report. Let me see. Well, I'll look for it while we continue with this clip. Out of refrigerators, out of dishwashers, Out of breastators, out of dishwashers, out of breast pumps, getting the chips to put them into their military equipment. However, the Russians are now working their way around this successfully and they're doing better in the war probably because of this. You are right in what you say. But she says it's absolutely the

Starting point is 01:25:06 case that our export controls have hurt their ability to conduct the war, made it harder, and we are enforcing this every minute of every day, doing everything we can. Now do you hear her speaking there? Does she sound like Kamala Harris or what? She sounds a little BS. Is that Mill U? Yes. Listen to it again. ...that our export controls have hurt their ability to conduct the war, made it

Starting point is 01:25:34 harder, and we are enforcing this every minute of every day, doing everything we can. Right there. Every minute of every day. All right. So talk about this enforcement. These are some of the enforcers. We should talk about our controls on Russia. Raimondo's team at Commerce that monitors and polices the ban on any company in the world

Starting point is 01:25:54 from selling products with American chips in them to Russia. But not just Russia. I've made sure that the most advanced American technologies can't be used in China. The Chinese warn that these export controls could trigger an escalating trade war. Trade with China accounts for 750,000 U.S. jobs. And if trade ends, we lose our jobs. We want to trade with China on the vast majority of goods and services, but on those technologies that affect our national security. No, no, no. Those advanced chips are in consumer

Starting point is 01:26:37 goods. Banks use them. Hospitals. This is going toward products that are made for civilian use. Yeah, well they also go into nuclear weapons, surveillance systems, and we know they want these chips and our sophisticated technology to advance their military. Just so you know, breast pump chips are spying on you. She is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and an Aspen Institute Rodel Fellow. So now she's gone to the Chinese and this is what it's all about. Her toughness has made her a target in China where fake ads have her promoting the new Chinese made smartphones. Last year, the government in Beijing hacked her emails.

Starting point is 01:27:29 And when she was in China... What? They hacked her email? This would have been a pretty big story if the Chinese are hacking. This whole story, this whole presentation is bull crap. And the fact that the Chinese are putting, they'd be developing. Here's what a lot of people believe is happening when they would, would Biden put the kibosh on sending certain kinds of chips to China that they, that are made in Taiwan anyway, as if they can't get a back door from Taiwan.

Starting point is 01:27:58 But that's what's coming up. That's coming up. Yeah. Is that the Chinese are going to start doing their own fabs and they'll catch up. Well, this is the story. Her email. And when she was in China on a trip, ironically, to improve relations, the tech company Huawei introduced that new smartphone with an advanced Chinese-made chip.

Starting point is 01:28:20 It was kind of in your face as if to say, look at the chip that we have. And it was a pretty good high level chip. Leslie Stahl knows all about high level chips. Well, I have their attention, clearly. And they've gotten yours. Well, what tells me is the export controls are working because that chip is not nearly as good. It's years behind what we have. How does she know all this?

Starting point is 01:28:50 It's years behind. Yeah, and what does years behind mean? I mean, the reason for the newer chips is because they're cheaper and faster. But the old chips, I mean, you can use a phone that's five years old and it's still dynamite. Yes. This is bull crap. It's nearly as good. The old chips, I mean you can use a phone that's five years old and is still dynamite. Yes. This is bull crap. ...early is good.

Starting point is 01:29:07 It's years behind what we have in the United States. We have the most sophisticated semiconductors in the world. China doesn't. We've out-innovated China. Well, we, you mean Taiwan. Fair. Fair. While American tech companies design the world's most advanced chips, none are actually made

Starting point is 01:29:29 in the U.S. Ninety percent of them come from Taiwan, and they are key to the future of U.S. military weaponry. And China, from time to time, threatens, you know, the wolf, to invade Taiwan. And some people say the whole reason is to get their hands on those chips. That's a problem. It's a risk. It makes us vulnerable. There it is. We have to protect our chips made in Taiwan from the Chinese.

Starting point is 01:29:58 That's that's because we can't make them here and the chips act doing nothing. Nope. The TMC guy, uh, the TSMC guy came over here and you can't set up shop because of the labor laws and whatever. He said screw that. And then recently, since they gave them billions to Intel because they have a couple of fabs and they're going to build some out. And then Intel made this announcement, I think it was in the last couple of weeks that you know, maybe we're going to get out of the chip making business and the stock skyrocketed. So, I mean, what is going on here? These guys are just bumblers. What does Intel do besides chips?

Starting point is 01:30:36 Nothing. So they're just going to become a VC or something? No, well, if they don't, I mean, they can, there are most of their designs, I think, I don't know where they're making their chips at, but they can make them in Taiwan just like anybody else does. Right. Or any other fab someplace else. Oh, you mean they're getting out of the fab business is what they say? Yeah, they were thinking of getting out, thinking of getting out of the fab business, even though there was some rumor going around that they were going to start making Nvidia chips, which is very humorous because they can't sell enough of their own chips, but they were thinking of making Nvidia chips.

Starting point is 01:31:12 But the thing that's a kicker is when they said they might get out of the fab business, the stock went skyrocketing. That's funny. So these guys that are running things, and with Raimondo at the top of it, are bumbling idiots. Well, since you brought up Nvidia, I might as well play it. Is AI's top dog being brought to heel? Nvidia has reportedly been issued a subpoena by the US Justice Department amid a deepening

Starting point is 01:31:40 probe. Bloomberg reporting that the DOJ suspects the chip-making giant of using monopolistic practices to keep clients from switching to other suppliers and penalizing those that don't use its chips exclusively. The company defending itself in a statement. NVIDIA wins on merit, as reflected in our benchmark results and value to customers who can choose whatever solution is best for them. The recent boom in artificial intelligence applications like ChatGPT has put NVIDIA's specialised processors in high demand, with sales more than doubling each quarter. Its annual revenues have skyrocketed from $16 billion in 2020 to more than $120 billion

Starting point is 01:32:21 expected this year. Regulators are reportedly focusing on NVIDIA's recent acquisition of Run.ai, which makes software that manages AI computing. Sales practices that favor clients who run Nvidia products exclusively are also said to be under the microscope. Led by CEO Jensen Huang, Nvidia's blockbuster performance has seen its share price more than double this year, briefly becoming the world's most valuable company. The probe comes at a pivotal moment for the industry though, as the AI boom has been losing

Starting point is 01:32:52 steam on markets over fears that its hype has far outpaced its actual economic benefits. I did not have on my bingo card the Department of Justice kicking off the AI downturn. That was pretty interesting. Nvidia beat their numbers, but yet the stock dropped by 10%. Yeah. Kind of nuttiness goes on constantly. Yeah. Well, you heard it there.

Starting point is 01:33:19 It's like, well, we're not so sure that, yeah, I am bearish on AI. Yeah, that's a nice story that came out saying so far AI has lost half a trillion dollars. I had to look twice at it. Half a trillion. Half a trillion. Wow. Hey, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage in

Starting point is 01:33:44 the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the chip ore. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John St. Devore! Well, well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning all ships and sea boots, the graphite and the air substance in the water and all the names of knights out there. Yeah, all right, all right. All right. This thing was 20, not 20.

Starting point is 01:34:06 All right. Let's see. We have in the troll room 1733, which I think is kind of on par. Where's my peak number? Oh, the peak was 1862. Thank you, Cotton Jinn. All right. For Thursday Thursday makes sense

Starting point is 01:34:26 Especially on this this kind of holiday week, which are still in I don't know if people did people even go back to work anymore No, I bother. Yeah, just it's just stay home. And of course we have the you know, right to not be disturbed We should have that's good. It's coming in America, too You have the right to not be disturbed. You're disturbing me. That's coming in America too. We have the right to not be disturbed. You're disturbing me. Just disturbing me. It's horrible. Those trolls are in the troll room. Trollroom.io is where you can listen to the No Agenda stream, which is 24 hours a day. There's always something fun playing on it. In addition to that, when we send out the bat signal, you can go on there. You can troll around. you can listen live and say whatever you

Starting point is 01:35:05 want. There's no moderation here. It's freedom of speech, and very limited freedom of reach, obviously, not that many people there compared to X. But we, we also like it if you use the modern podcast app, which will alert you when we send out the bat signal and then you and the same app you'll use for your podcast, you can then use for listening to the live stream, getting into the troll room. And also most of these modern podcast apps, you see a little donate button or support

Starting point is 01:35:38 this show. Sometimes it's a little dollar sign. You click on that, it takes you right to noagendadonations.com or whatever value for value website your favorite podcast uses. So we have been operating on value for value. No Russian money here. No, we have no Russian money.

Starting point is 01:36:02 Instead we have producer money because we have producers, we don't have listeners. They're out there providing time, talent, and treasure, many different things that you can be doing to support the show, hitting people in the mouth, letting them know about it. I see people are always slashing the X about the show and saying, hey, you should listen to No Agenda.

Starting point is 01:36:22 I think those things really help. Oh, I know those things help. Slashing the X? Yeah, I made that up myself. Well, you used to tweet. So what do you do on X? You slash an X. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:36:35 That's an interesting phrase that might catch on. I've only been using it for six months. I haven't heard it. I say it every single morning. When we start the show, I said boost the toot, uh, retweet the tweets and slash the X.

Starting point is 01:36:53 I don't remember this. Okay. Um, and you say it every single morning, every show morning. Yes. As we go into the, no, I thought it was every morning. You just wake up. I just wake up That's right. I said good morning slash the X baby. Let's go. Boom and Tina's all right Hold on a second. By the way, Tina got put in comment jail

Starting point is 01:37:14 But for she doesn't know She you know, what does she say? Does she know what she's no no, but she doesn't know what she said No, so this is on Instagram and So she posted she can post she posted, you know picture or video of the surprise party It was just hey, I can't comment and says you can't comment for a week. I Said what she says something what she doesn't she's not the type of person that says the cool nasty stuff No, she must have heard somebody's feelings. I mean, how else?

Starting point is 01:37:48 But she doesn't, that's not the kind of, that's not the way she, no. Well? She must've said, used the word weird or something like that. That doesn't count, by the way. Ah, okay, we'll let you slide. Doesn't count. Well, let you slide.

Starting point is 01:38:01 I'm just saying, I'm quoting that she may have said that, because I know that some wordage Just casual wordage that people would normally use gets you put in these these prisons. I know you can't say kill That's why people are saying unalive. You can't kill it. No, you're killing it lady No, you you unalive say that no, you know unalived it. You can't say rape You can't say pedophile. You say PDF file. There's all kinds of- Really?

Starting point is 01:38:30 Yeah. Oh yeah. It's all on Instagram. That's also on X. On X, if you do that- You can't say pedophile on X? Go ahead, try it. I'm not going to.

Starting point is 01:38:40 Now that you mention it, I won't. I never said it. Yeah, you can't. You can't do that. It's no good. What about just ped I won't. I never said it. Yeah, you can't, you can't do that. It's no good. What about just pedo? Hmm, maybe, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:38:49 No, she does, and she, you know, and she's like, what did I do? And you can't find out, which is, makes no sense. Well, that's the part, yeah, that's ridiculous. Makes no sense. How are you not going to do it again if you don't know what it was you did in the first place? I know, I know.

Starting point is 01:39:03 All these platforms do this because they don't have anybody working there. It's all done by machines. They're lazy. This is like the customer service. Like I'll have some issues with my YouTube TV. No, you tried to contact someone. There's no customer service. You can't use this, whatever it is. You tried to contact someone at Google. No, you can't.

Starting point is 01:39:21 Like trying to contact someone at Apple. It's like, no. It's not possible. No, no, it can't. It's like trying to contact someone at Apple. It's like, no. It's not possible. No, no, it's not. No, it's having difficulty getting YouTube TV to work on one of my browsers. Well, hold on a second. You'd think that with all the AI that Google is involved with, there'd be an, just say, and I'm going to use the word, an awesome AI chat bot who could. Oh, there is, there's an AI chat bot.

Starting point is 01:39:47 They don't know anything. Go here. Did that, was that helpful? Yes. No. Go here. Was that helpful? Yes. No. It's always no, because it's not helpful at all. No. Whereas I have a problem with my USB. You know, I'm, I'm looking up all kinds of AI and search engines and no, I have- Forget it. You need Darren.

Starting point is 01:40:09 Darren O'Neill. That's right. You need Darren. That's exactly what it is. Darren is one of our Dutch masters who create artwork for the show. We use new art for every single episode. It helps a lot. It grabs attention.

Starting point is 01:40:21 You know, you throw it on your timelines. People are like, whoa, what's that? And It's then it also entertains us We like we like it entertains everybody really good art is is always entertaining AI generated or not good art is good art So for episode 1691 we titled that joy boy. Oh, by the way Do you remember we were talking about the word joy? Yeah, and I said it had something to do with Nazis Oh, by the way, do you remember we were talking about the word joy? Yeah. And I said it had something to do with Nazis.

Starting point is 01:40:50 We thought we could have joy division, joy division. So a lot of people said, yes, these were brothels in the concentration camps that serviced the Nazi officers to boost morale, as well as a form of sex therapy for those with homosexual tendencies who needed to be shown the joy of the opposite sex. And these sex slaves in the brothels were typically female Jewish prisoners. And if they expired, they just replaced it with more. But that was known as the Joy Division of the Nazis and it kind of makes sense The Joy Division in that NPR. They have a Joy czar. Well, yeah, it's too it's the key. It's gonna be a whore

Starting point is 01:41:36 There you go, you nailed it Thank you to sir Ned who brought us the artwork for episode 1691 It was pretty good. We were looking at different pieces. This was the vibe meter where we had on the left, joy and hope, nice green colors, and on the right, fear, anger, and then just Trump's head for the vibe meter. And let me see, what other artwork was there

Starting point is 01:42:05 that we were looking at? Not much, there was a few Joy Boy pieces that we didn't like. They were usable, but now we were gonna use that for the title and that was pretty obvious. Yeah. And people should recognize, we usually spot the title early in the show.

Starting point is 01:42:20 Yours was funny, you were like, hey, I like that pack of cigarettes. I said, it says fags keep pubs alive Do you think that will be understood everywhere? Yeah, you got me on that one and then it was by Tanta Neil and the title of the art was fags It was probably a bad idea Sorry that was out I did like sweepers pieces. Yes, sweeper is new.

Starting point is 01:42:50 Sweeper is new, I think. Yeah, he's new or she is new and they're doing evergreen that is usable to me. Evergreens are always welcome. Yeah. Let's see, what else was there? They had a picture of your head with joy boy. That was a bit much. Rather disturbing.

Starting point is 01:43:11 Yeah, it wasn't good. Disturbing piece of art. Um, more AI stuff, of course. Um, some 60th, uh, I kind of like the joy czar that Darren did, which was again AI, but it was this just dour looking clown who has a Joy-Zar button on. It's a funny piece, but I think you thought it was too gruesome. No, you're the one that thought it was gruesome. I kind of liked it.

Starting point is 01:43:40 What? I said we should use it. Oh. No, no, I don't think. Whereas I keep looking for it. I'm not seeing it. It's next to this on the row with the Joy-Zar lips. No, I don't think where is I can looking for it? I'm not seeing it. It's next to this on the row with the other is not at the bottom. Yeah. Yeah, I Never said it was too gruesome. I didn't like it. No, you just said you liked it Well, I mean I liked I didn't like it enough to pick it

Starting point is 01:44:00 Okay It's a cute piece in a funny way because it's essentially walls. Yes. Yes. Is that walls dancing, that video everyone's sending around? The one where he's wearing a halter top? Yeah, that one. That's like a Texas gay convention somewhere in Austin.

Starting point is 01:44:23 Yeah, is that walls? No, it doesn't. I mean, I think somebody did a Waltz head on it, but no. I like that. But it might as well be. His whole family hates him. All of Minnesota hates him. They have like Waltz dunk tanks and shoot the Waltz head at the county fairs.

Starting point is 01:44:41 They don't like him there. He didn't do a very good job of picking that guy. Or did they? It all depends. There you go. It all depends. It all depends. Well, thank you, sir. Net Ned for bringing us the artwork for 1691. We appreciate the work that all of our artists do. You are you are treasured. You are cherished here at the No Agenda show.

Starting point is 01:45:00 No agenda art generator dot com. Another beautiful piece of time and talent. The Sir Paul Couture put together for us. So many people work on this podcast. We have so many good producers. We don't need your Russian money. We've got enough producers. Good to go. Now let's thank our... And if you're going to send it in, send it in anonymously. Well, there you go. Let's thank... Hey, where'd my spreadsheet go? Oh, there it is. Let's thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1692. We appreciate anyone

Starting point is 01:45:33 who donates any amount of value in return for the value you receive, free of charge, no hoops, no hurdles, no paywalls, no premium content that you can't get unless you pay up. No, we give it to you all right up front. And you just send back whatever it's worth to you. That's how it works. And knowagendadonations.com, you can set up your sustaining donations, which we love if you just do something at a regular interval.

Starting point is 01:45:56 And of course, we enjoy our executive and associate executive producers who come in with bigger amounts. And for the privilege of that, they get an actual title, which you can use anywhere that credits are recognized in Hollywood people like imdb.com you can put it there if you don't have one you can even open it up you'll see over a thousand no agenda producers in there 200 dollars and above gets you an associate executive producer title credit and we read your note 300 and above executive producer and we read your note and we kick it off with anonymous from North Carolina

Starting point is 01:46:27 Who comes in with? 1692 Which I'm thinking it should be some coded numbers show it's a show donation. Oh it's duh That's how long has it been since she was had a show number donation at least a few months and anonymous says no jingles no karma and I'm skipping the nighting and peerage Wow I mean that's okay that came in from stripe nice well thank you very much anonymous and you are top of the list with the top executive producership and a show number donation,

Starting point is 01:47:05 which has been quite a while. Thank you. We appreciate it. Yeah. Very interesting to say the least. Freya, Freya from The Hague comes in. Is that right? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:47:20 The Hague. With 34375. Hi, John and Adam, Adam and John. This is my first time donation. So please D douche me You've been D douche Got me blow out my sorry about that. Yeah Sorry, I'll try and I'll dial it down my first time donation greetings from Freya in Don hog future Dame Muston in

Starting point is 01:47:49 Bulldike, Lowlandia. Future Dame Muston, which is vegetable garden, in Pooldike, Lowlandia. Yeah, Bulldike, that's what I said, okay. I got hit in the mouth by Dame Tuthola and Iris. Big shout out to Iris. I call out Dame Tuthola for being a douchebag. Oh, she's calling her out now. Okay. Yeah. She's in the, in the Baki buddies.

Starting point is 01:48:24 Yes. The Baki. Not a code here. I don't understand It's funny in Dutch something to do with lesbians I could could you add me to the birthday list tomorrow Friday the 6th is my 55th birthday So the three three three dot three three added up exactly on my birthday 9669 can have a biscuit for my birthday. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday On the last show I heard that there's another Dutch listener Quark Korano

Starting point is 01:48:52 Who has his birthday tomorrow a biscuit for him, too? They always give me a biscuit on my birthday not a birthday give biscuits Miss hang and I hope to meet him one day in a meetup Because connection is protection. I really love the meetups. So they love the meetups in Holland, that's for sure. They sure do. So sorry I didn't have a chance to chat with you at the meetup in Amsterdam because it was so damn crowded. I thought I got everybody. I had a blast though. Thank you for being there and congrats on your 60th birthday on this. Oh, well before I forget,

Starting point is 01:49:25 a big shout out to Arno from Amstelveen for being a fellow ZDip warrior and Sir Hendrick for his awesome t-shirts. Thank you so much for the shows, for it is keeping me sane. I always listen to the show when I'm working in my vegetable garden, hence her name, And me laughing out loud because of your jokes on this show keep the others befuddled ha ha. Thank you for your courage We go to Dan from Epping, New Hampshire a switcheroo he says hello John and Adam

Starting point is 01:50:02 I'm writing to wish a happy birthday and as her birthday gift a final switcheroo donation for Angie to finally claim her damehood see you attach the county I request that she be named Dame little Anne of where the red fern grows Angie is my beautiful wife and we were recently married congratulations she hit me in the mouth over a year ago and we started dating and I've slowly come to love listening to the show Together and overjoyed to give her a well-deserved title. I'd like to ah, yes, I'd like to request that she be deduced You've been deduced What

Starting point is 01:50:39 Too loud. I keep turning it down. It's still too loud. I understand By the way, that's only on your mix. It's not that bad in the final for the rest of the stuff is normal It's there's reasons. I'd like to request that should be deduced and have some baby making karma for the roundtable May she have salmon Nagiri and a plate of 12 Lengua tacos.. Thank you. Dan, PS, special thanks to Tee, who started the process over no agenda daming and contributed greatly in her becoming the Dame that she is.

Starting point is 01:51:13 Well, of course we'll do that. You've got... ...Parmah. Those are Tongue of Tacos, by the way. Oh. You wanted to know? I'm happy to know. And they typically are delicious, because if you'd know how to cook tongue...

Starting point is 01:51:35 Mm-hmm. Dame Amama Susan's in Escondido, California, 333.33. Hi! I'd like to de-douche my daughter, Julia Beats. You've been de-douched. Julia Beals with a birthday switcheroo so she gets the credit. Her birthday was September 1st and mine is this Saturday. Hopefully they're both on the list. Please send us both birthday karma and add mariachi music. Love and Kisses, Dame Montes. You know what?

Starting point is 01:52:07 Here we go. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, donation. This isn't my first one, but I haven't asked for a deducing, so if you could do this on this one, that'd be nice. You've been deduced. And the show has been valuable as always. The last show I especially liked the part about the strength through joy. As a car guy, I also recognized the term because the Volkswagen Beetle was originally named Kraftdurchfreudewagen, strength through joy car. Oh, that's a little obscure. I didn't know. Well, of course, Hitler did create the Volkswagen as the

Starting point is 01:53:05 people's car, also known as the KDF Wagen and part of the KDF program used by the NSDAP to make Nazis more joyful. So yes, the Nazis, those in Germany, 33 to 45, did use the term extensively. Just so you know. I thought others might find that interesting, NPR. Thank you for your courage and for more years. Best wishes from Michiel Buren. P.S. Good Al Sharpton jingle always makes me chuckle. R.E.S.P.I.C.T. Sir, Walkman, Walkman in Louisville, or Louisville,

Starting point is 01:53:45 hard to say, I don't know, it's in Ohio, so I don't know how to pronounce it necessarily. They pronounce it anyway. 333 and keeping it short and sweet, he writes. Happy birthday, Adam, no jingles, J, G, K, something, what does that mean? Something karma? No jingles, just goat karma.

Starting point is 01:54:07 Jog goat karma, duh. Sir Walkman, Duke of Buckeye or Ohio. You've got karma. That's right. We decode your messages on site. Genevieve. Genevieve Wimberly is in in Liberty Lake, Washington 31346. She says this is a row of ducks plus today's show date 222.22 plus 91.24 to celebrate the marriage

Starting point is 01:54:36 of two slaves, Kyle Tohig and Genevieve Wimberley, getting hitched on last Sunday's show day. It's time for these newlyweds to claim our seat at the round table on our wedding day. Yes, it's a four ring day. Big thanks to the best man Brian Maloney for hitting us both in the mouth and sending us on a path toward knighthood to proudly be a couple that know agendas together

Starting point is 01:54:57 and stays together. Of course, we never had a fight. Quick plug for sustaining donations. There's surefire path from slave to royalty. We'll be celebrating our nuptials as well as becoming a knight in a dame by staying in a castle on the mountain Quick plug for sustaining donations, there is surefire path from slave to royalty. We will be celebrating our nuptials as well as becoming a knight in a dame by staying in a castle on the mountain as one should. Baby making karma please and a smoking hot wife jingle followed by it's true for the

Starting point is 01:55:17 bride and groom. And Kyle would like to be dubbed Sir Spook of Spokane, protector of infrastructure and Jen would like to be Dame Jen with a G, protector of women's vaginas. She is at OBGYN. No dude pussy please. At the roundtable we'd like Patagonian Tooth Fish, French crepes and champagne please. Well, I don't have any champagne here

Starting point is 01:55:48 because they can't legally do that. So they give you a what, cava? Is that what they do here outside of the champagne region? Cava. Cava is Spanish. Yes. Well, it's cava. It's still imported.

Starting point is 01:56:04 Adam, question. Where are you in Mexico for your birthday? Just north of Puerto Vallarta, where the love boat docks. We leave for Sayulita on Thursday's show, the 5th. Producers comment, thinking about Trump's fall endorsement. What about Dave Chappelle? No, I don't think Dave Chappelle will remove the needle that much. Thank you very much for your donations.

Starting point is 01:56:28 Congratulations. You will be at the roundtable for your knighting and daming. And here's what you're requested. You've got... Karma. That's true. Now we have Dame Astrid, the Arch... Dame Astrid. Oh, yes. The Archduchess and Archduke of Japan and all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea.

Starting point is 01:56:56 I think it's coming in from both of them. In Tokyo. Dear Adam, happy birthday. The nice thing about turning 60 is that one can finally say, get off my lawn with a smile, great confidence and with no regret. Much love, Dame Astrid plus Sir Mark. Yes, the archduchess and archduke of Japan

Starting point is 01:57:20 and all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea. Next associate executive producer 250, the Harper team from Temecula, California. Is that how I pronounce it, Temecula? Yep. Please feel free to shorten this if it's too long. It is. My husband and I never miss an episode.

Starting point is 01:57:34 The Harper team, founded by Jason and Rachel Harper, has been a top producing husband and wife real estate team in Southern California since 2000, selling over 1400 homes. The Harper team has deep roots in Southern California since 2000, selling over 1400 homes. The Harper team has deep roots in Southern California. We're proud to add the great state of Tennessee. Since 2021, we've assisted an average of three families a month in relocating from Southern California

Starting point is 01:57:55 to the greater Nashville area. Well, this is a good service. You can contact them at harpers at harperhometeam.com or visit their website at harperhometeam.com or visit their website at harperhometeam.com And they are happy to help you find the perfect home or get top dollar for your current one Well, thank you get the hell out of California. Yes, go to go to Tennessee for sure. Thank you Harper team Eli the coffee guys up he's in Bensonville, Illinois to oh nine oh five Eli says, Over the weekend we visited the Bristol, Wisconsin Renaissance Fair

Starting point is 01:58:31 and a lot of people had some really cool medieval garb. There were jousts, jugglers, acrobats, magicians, and furries. Yay! This seems to be the most popular with the teenagers there. Costumes, yes, but not very period authentic. All performers operate on the Value for Value system, which made me think of the show, especially with so many dressed as knights.

Starting point is 01:59:02 For producers who support Value for value in all its forms, visit www.KegelWattCoffeeRoasters.com. Use code ITM for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated. Eli, the coffee guy. It's ITM20 is the code. ITM20. Pat Eckert in Rochester.

Starting point is 01:59:17 What did I say? You said ITM. Pat Eckert in Rochester, Minnesota, $200. Associate Executive Producership. Oh, it's a switcheroo. This donation is for Alex Eckert in Rochester, Minnesota 200 associate executive producership this don't oh, it's a switcheroo This donation is for alex eckert. Let me change that right away alex Okay taking care of Who is leaving this year to go to school in lacrosse, wisconsin for the firefighting program. There you go That's a young man talking. I can't believe it's been 18 years already. We

Starting point is 01:59:46 are proud of you. Can you give all the no agenda kids leaving home this year? Can you give all the no agenda kids leaving home this year? Make it, oh, make a ton of money and buy your parents cool crap karma. We all, as parents, we all wish for that. We hope our our kids are able to go off and be so successful They can give us cool crap so for arm over three. Thank you John and Adam You've got karma By your parents cool crap and Last on the list is Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood,, 200 bucks and she asked for jobs karma and says that for a competitive edge go to Imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.

Starting point is 02:00:33 That's Imagemakersinc.com with a K.com. Or just find Linda Lu Duchess of Jobs and Writer of Resumes on the Pod Producer list. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Yes! You got karma. And that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1692. Thank you all so much.

Starting point is 02:00:58 We'll be thanking the rest of our producers $50 and above in our second segment. As always, we really would appreciate it if you in addition to these great donations if you consider sustaining donation if that's all you that you feel is valuable to you that's good too if that's all you can afford that's fantastic and be five dollars a month five dollars a week five dollars a show go to no agenda donations comm support the show because we don't have any Russian money here. And thank you for producing 1692. Our formula is this.

Starting point is 02:01:29 We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Word up!

Starting point is 02:01:38 Word up! Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! All right. Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! because this has been one of our staples for so long on the show, then maybe we'll try one more time, one more time to see if the Department of Homeland Security will consider licensing our excellent Jeff Smith jingle. DHS has designated September 25th as If You See Something, Say Something Awareness Day, also known as hashtag See Say Day.

Starting point is 02:02:31 On September 25th and year-round, stay prepared to identify the signs, report suspicious activity to local authorities, and help prevent terrorism-related crime. One tip could make the difference. Learn more by visiting dhs.gov slash see say It's so good I know it's crazy It's giving it away. Yes. Yes, we just want some credit here

Starting point is 02:02:58 I get a couple of clips that backs up your thesis that you always like to bring out where the New York banker thinks that all this immigration is working out. Oh, well, it's not just the New York banker, it's all the New York bankers. All the bankers. So here's New York banker. I got two clips that kind of just goes along that line of thinking. The U.S. is experiencing the largest immigration surge since the great wave of the late 1800s. The Congressional Budget Office says an overwhelming majority, around 6.5 million, are illegal immigrants. There were fewer babies born in the United States last year, less than 3.6 million, than

Starting point is 02:03:36 there were illegal immigrants coming into this country. Population researcher Steve Moser says 10 percent of those babies are the babies of illegal immigrants. I'm all in favor of more children, all right? I'm all in favor of population growth. I think a population decline leads to economic collapse, it leads to societal collapse. Mosier says this immigration may help the U.S. with its historically low fertility rate, but he says it's better for citizens to have more babies than illegal immigrants. Census Bureau data suggests most illegal immigrants are young, have a low level of education, and are ready to work.

Starting point is 02:04:15 These immigrants compete with native-born Americans for low-paying jobs, and this is likely to keep wages relatively low. Yes! That's the whole idea. It's working. From the sounds of this report, it sure is. Of course, it would be nice if we had babies, but nobody wants to do that. No. So here we go with part two. The jobs most commonly worked by illegal immigrants are as construction workers, housekeepers, cooks, and janitors. The overwhelming majority come from Latin American countries like Venezuela, Mexico and Honduras.

Starting point is 02:04:49 Many are also from China, Russia, India or Africa. Their top destinations are California, Texas, New York, New Jersey and Florida. The Congressional Budget Office estimates the migrant surge will boost federal revenues by 1.2 trillion over a decade. It says the surge will boost economic activity and the migrants themselves will pay taxes. Don't worry they'll pay taxes. Well this brings me to... I should mention that they left out the other job opportunities for them which is apartment management.

Starting point is 02:05:28 Managing apartments. Yeah. That's now spread to Chicago. Isn't she? The Venezuelans are... Supposedly, but there's, yeah. Well, yes. I had a clip about some guy threatening them with switches. Yeah, the black guy, the black guy in the car. Yeah, the black guy saw him with the switches, which is a rigged, a G switches. Yeah, the black guy, the black guy in the car. Yeah, the black guy with the switches, which is a rigged Glock. Yeah. And there's been, you know, the actual evidence of this is scant. Well, that's, oh, there you go producers. We need evidence. Get into those apartment buildings.

Starting point is 02:06:01 We need evidence. Get into those apartment buildings. Let us know what's going on. Now this baby thing is a point of propaganda, anti-propaganda from the Democrat run mainstream media, which is all of it. And sorry to do this, but I do need to bring in Joy Reid because she is of course still the spokes hole for MSNBC. She's so good at it. And whenever you're talking about babies,

Starting point is 02:06:31 if you're talking about American babies, then you're a dick basically. Then you're just a douche bag. And she actually has a name for it. And it's not just the people talking, obviously she's talking about JD Vance because he's weird. But also about the podcast that the president is going on, he's been on uh, Theo Vaughn. I like Theo Vaughn. He's doing everything.

Starting point is 02:07:05 He was on Lex Friedman. Lex Friedman, yeah. And, um, and here you go. Listen to this. Well, if it's a day that ends in Y, that means yet another clip of Donald Trump's running mate Senator J.D. Vance has resurfaced. And folks, if you thought it couldn't get any weirder, think again. There it is. Take a listen to comments that he made back in September

Starting point is 02:07:25 2021 when asked about where he thinks gender and racial resentment come from. To me what it is, is sort of a value system to replace the fact that they're all fundamentally atheist or agnostic. They have no real value system. Their only value system is achieve in a very conventional way. value system is achieve in a very conventional way. The idea that somehow they're pursuing racial or gender equity is like the value system that gives their life meaning. Well, of course, they all find that that value system leads to misery, leads to unhappiness. Clearly, this value set has made me a miserable person who can't have kids because I already passed the biological

Starting point is 02:08:05 period when it was possible. I live in a 1200 square foot apartment in New York and I pay $5,000 a month for it, but I'm really better than these other people. What I'm going to do is project my racial and gender sensitivities on the rest of them. I mean, what? Seriously? I mean, did anybody? Anybody. from the Trump camp met this guy? But I guess it isn't too surprising.

Starting point is 02:08:32 So then she introduces a term which I think we need to be on top of. What is her problem to what he said? She's just laughing for laughing sake. But it's a setup to discredit men. Hello. And not just men, but the Manosphere. Wait, Manosphere. Where's the Manosphere?

Starting point is 02:08:56 The trove of unearthed comments from Vance all seem to have one thing in common. They all vilify women who don't have kids, specifically biological kids, which may sound odd to those of us on Earth One, but it's actually a popular sentiment in something called the Manosphere. The Manosphere is basically a network of online communities, websites, blogs, forums, and podcasts. Podcasts!

Starting point is 02:09:18 That all promote masculinity, misogyny, and anti-feminism. They are obsessed with birth rates and the idea that women should be nothing more than baby makers whose only job should be taking care of the home and raising children. Vance praised a 2017 report on families written by the architects of project 2025. J.D. Vance actually wrote the introduction to this report,

Starting point is 02:09:44 calling it admirable. And should Trump JD Vance actually wrote the introduction to this report calling it admirable. And should Trump and Vance win the White House, these ideas along with those of the Manosphere could become a reality for the rest of us. Something we know because their buddies wrote it all down in Project 2025. The Manosphere, baby. I don't remember that word being in the Project 2025 manuscript. It is now. The Manosphere, baby. I don't remember that word being in the Project 2025 manuscript. It is now. The Manosphere.

Starting point is 02:10:08 We are part of the Manosphere. It used to be toxic masculinity. Are you a man? Toxic masculinity? Are we toxically masculine, the two of us? I would hope so. We're kind of old to be toxically masculine. I'm off my lawn.

Starting point is 02:10:24 And I'm catching up. Does that count? I'm kind of old to be toxically masculine. I'm catching up. Does that count? I'm catching up. The Manosphere. That's it. It's Sim Pool, Joe Rogan, No Agenda Show. I'm just inserting us into the big names. Theo Vaughn.

Starting point is 02:10:40 We're the Manosphere, man. We got podcasts. They're coming for podcasts, by the way. Have you noticed? There's ever since Trump started going on all these podcasts, they're coming for podcasters. Podcasts, no good, Manosphere. Oh wait, here's Alex Wagner, MSNBC again.

Starting point is 02:10:58 Tonight JD Vance spoke at an event for the conservative group Turning Points USA, which supports Donald Trump. Trump, meanwhile, is sitting for a town hall this evening on his preferred network, Fox News. Even though Trump speaks almost exclusively to friendly outlets, he has broadened his horizons this election cycle. The New York Times reports this week on Trump's new strategy to court what is being called

Starting point is 02:11:23 the Manoverse. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, hold on a second. I like Manosphere, now it's Manoverse. Manoverse? A constellation of YouTubers, pranksters, and streamers with massive online followings. If you're a podcaster, it's Manosphere. If you're a streamer, it's Manoverse. The aim here is to target young men and to

Starting point is 02:11:46 exploit and deepen the existing gender divide between Trump supporters and Harris supporters and these streamers in the Mano verse Mano verse all of whom are young white men They have hosted trump on their online channels for what might technically be called interviews but really Defy any sort of journalistic characteristics. Oh, they're not really interviews. They defy any journalistic integrity or whatever she says.

Starting point is 02:12:13 Oh yeah. Donna Bash is much better at the hard questions than some podcaster. So I have one clip from Lex Friedman with Trump. Have you noticed that Trump does mirroring in these podcasts? Yes, he does mirroring a lot. So it was brought up by Tyrus on the guy. I wish you're taking the clip because it was quite a good rant. Is Tyrus part of the Manoverse?

Starting point is 02:12:38 Because he's not white. And so he has to be white. You know, he says he's Honorary, honorary man of Georgetown. He's an honorary white Trump lover. Yeah. He goes off on Lex Freeman saying, how can this guy talk any slower? I wanted to kill him, you know?

Starting point is 02:12:56 And went on and on about it. It's quite funny. Yeah, and so you saw it with Theo Vaughan. Trump was totally mirroring Theo Vaughan. And was totally mirroring Theo Vaughn. And with Lex Friedman, it was Trump was almost, you know, was he breathing? It was hilarious. It was like, wow, it was, we got really slow.

Starting point is 02:13:15 And this is the one clip I pulled. But a lot of big people went to that island. But fortunately, I was not one of them. It's just very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public. Yeah, it's very interesting, isn't it? Probably will be, by the way. So if you were able to, you'll be...

Starting point is 02:13:38 Yeah, I'd certainly take a look at it. Now, Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years ago. They do that for danger, too, because know, in danger, certain people, etc. So Kennedy is very different from the Epstein thing. But yeah, I'd be inclined to do the Epstein. I'd have no problem with it. Yeah. No problem.

Starting point is 02:14:01 All right. Yeah. Another reason to vote for Trump. Another reason to vote for Trump. Another reason to vote for Trump. He's going to release the Kemp's English. He's also going to release the alien files and he's going to get Kennedy files and everything. Yeah. Where have I heard that before?

Starting point is 02:14:13 We'll see that. Yeah. Yeah. I have the, as you bring Trump in just to balance things off, I do have Harris's small business speech, which I want to play. Yes, this was a... Because I have a question to ask you about this. Okay. It's a two-parter. Here she is in part one.

Starting point is 02:14:31 I'll make sure I have the right one. Yeah, this is kind of her whole economic policy that she announced with this. Yeah, right, in a nutshell. Yeah. Vice President Kamala Harris spoke in New Hampshire Wednesday afternoon. She revealed a new part of her economic plan

Starting point is 02:14:45 focusing on small businesses. NTD's Jason Blair brings us the latest. In Portsmouth, Vice President Kamala Harris proposed her new plan to quote, support small businesses and invest in entrepreneurs. Part of my plan is we will expand the tax deduction for startups to $50,000. Second, my plan will help existing small businesses grow.

Starting point is 02:15:11 We will provide low and no interest loans to small businesses that want to expand. She says she wants to make it easier to open a small business by removing hurdles and creating support. And her campaign says Harris has the goal of creating 25 million new business applications in her first term as president if elected. All right. Well, so she's going to do throw some money in tax benefits. It's not like you're going

Starting point is 02:15:40 to actually get any cash. You actually have to be a small business that is making profit to take any benefit. Take any benefit. Yeah. But here's the part that gets me as a part two. There's a thing in here that just I'm just befuddled by it. I'm going to ask you. OK. According to AP, since Biden took office, about 19 million of those applications have been filed and the Granite State is. Wait, how many? 19 million of those applications have been filed. And the Granite State is a bit of a deviation from

Starting point is 02:16:13 her recent focus on battleground states such as Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Poll averages for New Hampshire are showing Harris up by 5% over former President Trump. The Trump campaign responded to Harris's announcement to help small businesses saying in a statement, quote, Why hasn't she done it during her four years as vice president? After the Portsmouth event, Harris will travel to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, where she is expected to stay until the debate between her and Trump on September 10th. Trump is also visiting Pennsylvania this week. On Wednesday, he'll be appearing at a Fox News town hall in Harrisburg.

Starting point is 02:16:55 Okay. What's your question? What is this application they're talking about? I looked for, that's funny you say that. I'm like, Hey, how can I get in on this? Do you need an application? What you just either do it or you don't don't hang you hang out. Yeah, you just hang out a shingle. You're good to go It's a mark lie to anybody. You don't go to the Small Business Administration to start a small business

Starting point is 02:17:17 Yeah, she makes it sound like you got to go through jump through hoops to start a small business. You don't that's America That's the beauty of it. You just say, here I am, Adam Curry, DBA. Well, how would she know that? As far as she's concerned, everything goes through the government. Well, that's what she wants. Yeah, that's exactly what she wants. I had a similar clip, but also I had the name of her economic policy. Did you not catch the name? She's branding it. Yeah, I'll just put, I did not catch it. I'll just play a little bit of this. As a latecomer to the race, Kamala Harris has been rolling out her agenda piece by piece, focused on what she's branded the opportunity economy. There it is. The opportunity, the opportunity economy.

Starting point is 02:18:02 Okay. So the opportunity economy, The opportunity economy. More regulations. An opportunity to fill out more forms. Kamala went to Pennsylvania. And a couple things happened. First, President Biden was there as a surrogate to help her out. Yeah, okay. And I don't know if this helped.

Starting point is 02:18:27 You're no longer be the manufacturing capital world. Where the hell is that written? Right here. We are the greatest manufacturing city or county in the world, state in the world. Right here. State in the world. Right here.

Starting point is 02:18:39 Right here. I'm gonna remain that way. Right here. Eric Dean, the ironworkers. Right here. Tim Disko, the bricklayer. Right here. Eric Dean of the Ironworkers. Tim Driscoll of Bricklayer. April Geller of the SEIU. I love that the people are just clapping.

Starting point is 02:18:50 Bricklayer, yeah, Bricklayer. SEIU. Yeah. Lee Saunders of Aspen. A great friend. His dad was great. And Jimmy Williams of the Painters ally tradesman and his dad. His dad is a really good man.

Starting point is 02:19:12 Holy crap. Jimmy Williams. Who has the nuclear codes? Who has them? And now I have a question for you. There was more stuff. I mean, I'm glad you got that clip. I didn't get any, but he was just off the rails.

Starting point is 02:19:26 It was the real Biden. I mean, he's still, he's the real Biden is out there trying to get something done to show that he's still alive, which is all that he is. I mean, this guy, this, this person cannot be running our government. You know, do you think that, that there's still, let's say, how about this? What if Trump wins the election? Kamala could still pull a quick switcheroo, do the 25th Amendment, be the first female black president for two months. That would be funny.

Starting point is 02:20:00 Why not? She could be in the history book. She's crazy enough to do it. I mean, what does she have to lose? Well, at that, now I didn't, you know, I didn't consider that. I've always thought about her pulling that stunt so she could be the president. She can't do it before the election because then it would look like she was trying to, you know, get some, it looked cheesy. But I never thought about it after the election. Yeah. Because it's two months. I think it's the whole of December. She'd be the president.

Starting point is 02:20:28 She could do all kinds of fun stuff. Most of November and part of January. She could start a nuclear war in Ukraine, do anything she wants. Now, this is a very well-known clip. And I have a question about this clip for you. Everywhere I go, I tell people, look, you may not be a union member, you better thank a union member for the five day work week.

Starting point is 02:20:52 You better thank a union member for sick leave. You better thank a union member for paid leave. You better thank a union member for vacation time. the union member for vacation time. So of course everyone focused on her code switch there, her southern drawl which came out. But is that true? Did the unions create the five day work week, the paid sick days and vacation?

Starting point is 02:21:22 Was that the unions who did that? I think this needs looking into. It was in fact Henry Ford. Oh yes, right, because Henry Ford, there was a special on Henry Ford on the BIOS channel and they discussed this and it was the problem with what Henry Ford ran into. He invented the assembly line. Yep. because the,

Starting point is 02:21:45 I'll just run down, you don't have to watch it, but he was, the demand for the Model T Ford, which took him five years to develop and he had a bunch of the Dodge brothers included, investors he had to pay back eventually, he got the thing out and because it was cheaper than anything else and it was reliable and rugged and the demand went through the ceiling and so he by looking at a meatpacking plant he decided to invent the assembly line the modern assembly line for automobiles so he could keep up with the demand for the car and then what it turned out as he did this the jobs were so repetitive and boring that people were quitting left and right.

Starting point is 02:22:26 He had a huge employment problem. He couldn't keep anybody working there because they were quitting left and right. It was because it was dull. And that's when he invented these things. So it was not a socialist union member. It was in fact the capitalist industrialist Henry Ford, who you need to thank. Just a little point of contention. Yes. On your no agenda show.

Starting point is 02:22:51 Yeah. She's full of shit. Let's face it. All right. Um, this is a day late, a day short. These actions will not be our last. Attorney General Merrick Garland announced terrorism charges against senior leaders of Hamas.

Starting point is 02:23:08 The charges relate to their roles in the atrocities committed in Israel on October 7th. The Justice Department unsealed charges against Yahya Sinwar and other senior leaders of Hamas for financing and directing a decades-long campaign to murder American citizens and endanger the security of the United States. The charges come after Israel said it recovered the bodies of six hostages who were killed by militants in captivity. That included Israeli-American Hirsch Goldberg-Polin.

Starting point is 02:23:40 We are investigating Hirsch's murder and each and every one of the brutal murders of Americans as acts of terrorism Goldberg Poland's parents are Chicago natives who became international icons in the struggle to free hostages They said they hope their son's murder becomes a turning point in the negotiations So, okay, they were hostile. Here we are the world's police. Yep So, okay, they were hostages. Here we are, the world's police. Yep. We were hot. They were hostages since October 7th of last year.

Starting point is 02:24:10 And now all of a sudden we're going to engage the military industrial complex to go bomb them further because we got our arrest warrants out for you. You know what? This is how this gets interpreted by the nut jobs in our Congress. And when I say the nut jobs leading the pack Lindsey Graham Senor Your days are numbered pal. We're not going to indict you. We're gonna kill you We're gonna kill you to send Lindsey Graham over to kill a tough talker send him over

Starting point is 02:24:38 Send him over. There you go. Now you're talking him do it. Let him do it now I'm gonna play I would like to play a controversial clip because we've had people thinking that we, you know, we are on the side of Israel or on the side of Palestine, depending on who you are. We're getting, we don't take sides on this thing. Mossad shackles. But we, yeah, where's our money? So we have, uh, we know that the Palestinians or mainly the Hamas people are genocidal. They want to end Israel and kill all Jews.

Starting point is 02:25:14 And we have to realize that this is a two way street. And I'm going to play a clip from a podcast called two nice Jewish boys that is out of Israel. And it's everybody's all bent out of shape because these guys expressed what I think is not necessarily a, um, not necessarily a singular thought because I think the, the Jewish population of Israel is hates the Palestinians. We've talked about this to this, to an extreme and it goes both ways.

Starting point is 02:25:47 And I just think we should get this out of the way so we can at least be on the record for acknowledging this thing. Here's the two nice Jewish boys. If you gave me a button to just erase Gaza, every single living being in Gaza would no longer be living tomorrow, I would press it in a second that's just I think I mean I think most Israeli if that's the choice yeah yeah mm-hmm no even if it's not like right now yeah I would press it right now mm-hmm yeah the same with the territories. I would press it right now. No choice. No, I'm saying for the chance.

Starting point is 02:26:28 Yeah. Yeah. I would press it right now. Give me that button and press it right now. There you go. And I think most Israelis would. Yeah, most Jewish Israelis. They wouldn't post, they wouldn't talk about it like I am. They wouldn't post, they wouldn't say I pressed it.

Starting point is 02:26:43 Yeah. But they would press it. They don't have balls of steel like it. But they would press it. They don't have balls of steel like you. But they would press it, right? Like if they were in a closet alone, they wouldn't even hesitate. Someone came to them and said, no one will know.

Starting point is 02:26:56 You press this, all the Palestinians are gone. You'd be like, hey, is there another one? Well, I think this is true. I know Sir Brian of London would be all in on that. And I think these two nice Jewish boys... By the way, I want to thank Sir Brian of London for sending me a bunch of books. Yeah, he sent everybody books. Yeah. I think the two nice Jewish boys, I have a Yeah. I think the two nice Jewish boys, I have a recommendation for a guest for their podcast. Sinwar, your days are numbered, pal. We're not going to indict you, we're going to kill you. We're going to kill you. Yeah, Lindsey Graham. I was reading- I just wanted to point out that the genocidal maniacs in the Middle East are everywhere

Starting point is 02:27:42 on both sides of these arguments. It's not just the Palestinians wanting to kill all Jews, all the Jews. And I had a clip before, I don't know if I ever played it, but it was somebody in the, some, a woman talking about the only good Arab is a dead Arab. And I just, these people are out of control on all sides. And it's just something we need to at least recognize. And sad because ultimately the whole dispute is just over who makes better hummus. There is a moment of that.

Starting point is 02:28:15 The best hummus I ever had was in Jaffa. Yeah, there you go. Name dropper. So I was reading the AP report about the large-scale polio vaccinations. Begin in war ravaged Gaza after the first case in 25 years. You had a report on that the last show. But what was interesting is this one little line in this report from the Associated Press. The polio virus that triggered this latest outbreak is a mutated virus from an oral polio vaccine.

Starting point is 02:28:47 The oral polio vaccine contains weakened live virus and in very rare cases, that virus is shed by those who are vaccinated and can evolve into a new form capable of starting new epidemics. So, in fact, this outbreak comes from previous vaccination. Could be. Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty sure it is. It's out of control. It's just the world we live in, man.

Starting point is 02:29:20 It's just the world we live in. Let me see. Well, let's see. I got some other stuff here that could be getting out of the way. I would, since we talked about immigration in the United States and how great it is for us, let's talk about UK because they have a different opinion about everything. Yeah. And this is the UK immigration update. Britain has rejected calls for an asylum treaty with the European Union this day after 12 migrants died trying

Starting point is 02:29:46 to make a perilous ocean journey from France to England. NDD's international correspondent Malcolm Hudson has more for us. Britain has rejected proposals to be part of a European Union plan on asylum. Instead, Britain reiterated its own plans to tackle the criminal gangs behind the UK's illegal immigration crisis. This comes after the French Interior Minister Gerard D'Armenin called for a treaty following the deaths of 12 migrants who tried to cross the English Channel on Tuesday.

Starting point is 02:30:16 I was a little confused by this story because I also saw it. Are they trying to make a treaty where they pay France more money to keep them? Or it's hard. It's not made clear, but the British aren't going for any of these agreements with the EU regarding immigration because they think they're taking the brunt of it because people are going through Europe and saying, we don't want to be here. We want to go. And it's explained in these clips. Why?

Starting point is 02:30:40 On y va, on y va, on y va, the French say. Go ahead, go, let's go. We're going to get in the boat. Yeah. Okay, next. Dharmanin's proposal could see migrants claim UK asylum from within the EU without needing to make the dangerous journey, but this is unlikely to happen. Other Prime Minister Keir Starmer has indicated he'd prefer to send illegal immigrants back to the EU. Despite the deaths of Tuesday, Wednesday morning saw several dozen more migrants board a crowded boat on the French coast of Wimuru.

Starting point is 02:31:14 French patrol boats watched as the flimsy boat laboured through the seas. The coastal town's mayor, Jean-Luc Dubail, is also calling for French and British officials to do more to stem the number of migrants attempting the journey. He asked, why do they want to go to Britain? They can ask for asylum in France, but he said they want to go to Britain instead. So Dubail says something is drawing them to choose the UK over France. It echoes Darmanin's remarks.

Starting point is 02:31:41 Darmanin condemned the people smugglers, but he pointed to what he sees as Britain's loosely regulated job market. He said migrants are attracted to Britain because they can often work without papers and are rarely deported. Yeah, and the bankers love it. Yeah, same as here. I'm sure it's the exact same issue. We need this cheap labor to come on in, suppress wages across the country. Yes, suppress wages is the key.

Starting point is 02:32:10 Mm hmm. Yeah. Well, here we go. Starmus said that in the first two months in power, the government has deported over 400 people who have no right to be in Britain. However, UK government figures show that in the last seven days alone, more than 2,000 people have arrived in Britain on small boats. So far this year, nearly 22,000 people have made the dangerous journey. I think it's more than that. That seems low. Follow up to our..., Chris, we're comparing it to our, you know, just walk over and take it. Although if you recall, during the, uh, the show era, there were these guys sneaking on the channel trains.

Starting point is 02:32:57 Yes. And going through the channel, which has got to be a better way to get into England. Yes. It's less wet for sure. It's less wet and that's a terrible crossing. Follow up on the femicide story we did. So when a, when a man kills a woman, now the term is femicide. I mean, it used to be homicide and I have to call it femicide.

Starting point is 02:33:21 And producer Joe says, you know, I was listening to that and he was, he was talking to an ER doctor from Detroit. And this ER doctor says, you know, I get patients in the ER multiple times a week who've been shot in the crotch. Men. And of course, the question was, well, is that because they're putting the gun in their waistband? Says, yeah, you do get that. But the vast majority is their female partner who shot them in the crotch, mainly for cheating. That's pretty... There's gotta be a term for that. Well, I don't know if there's a term for that, but I think tranicide is on deck.

Starting point is 02:34:04 That's coming. Tranicide. on deck. That's coming. Tranicide. Oh, speaking of, did you see the full Nashville Shooters unredacted journal that was released? I haven't read it, but I'm aware of the fact that it was released. Oh, man, it's horrible. We had a policeman that was involved in this who had seen it. He reported to us that it's horrible. And when it first happened, he said they wouldn't release it because it was so gross.

Starting point is 02:34:34 Well, it's clearly, this kid was on SSRIs and is just going through just a roller coaster of emotions. It's really, it's really nuts. And now I'm wondering, we haven't heard about it yet, but this, this recent shooting in this Georgia school, you know, 14 year old kid, you know, do we know if this kid was on SSRIs? They never tell us anything. They just say it's because of guns Producer sir lanehart sent me a note. He says I just want to let you know

Starting point is 02:35:14 That a lot of things have happened in Georgia this year the Lake and Riley murder illegal immigrant murder in Athens, Georgia About an hour away from Fulton County, Fannie Willis. Now this shooting in Georgia, and this was almost like a gift for Harris for the upcoming, and I'm sure there'll be questions about it, for the upcoming debate. And of course, the FBI knew about this kid and talked to him and, oh, well, sorry, couldn't do anything. Right. This is true. Seems like almost a gift for the debate. You know what I mean? Not a gift for the dead kids. But you know, what was

Starting point is 02:35:58 going on with this kid? We don't know any, we have a name. And it was just the beginning of the school year, wasn't like a buildup and he's from another area so it's not like a build-up of frustrations you know that he's picked up halfway through the school year this just started yeah there was something else going on again not reported to us we don't have a clue I do have a clip about this here a community is in mourning after another unspeakable American tragedy. American. Just before 1030 a.m., police say a 14-year-old student carrying an AR-style rifle opened fire at Appalachee High School, located just about an hour outside of Atlanta.

Starting point is 02:36:37 The gunshots were so close to me, like my ears started ringing real bad. By the way, this kid, this kid with the dreads was on every, it was like there was one press conference and this kid was the only one talking. I just found that interesting. Every single report I saw of this was this kid. High school located just about an hour outside of Atlanta. The gunshots were so close to me, like my ears started leaking real bad, like the whole classroom was smoking.

Starting point is 02:37:04 I saw one of my classmates on the ground, bleeding so bad. Students and teachers barricaded themselves in classrooms. You can hear gunshots, just ringing out through the school and you're just wondering which one of those is gonna be somebody that you're best friends with or somebody that you love. The suspected shooter identified as Colt Gray

Starting point is 02:37:23 was taken into custody, alive. Later, roughly 1,900 students were escorted out of the school and onto the football field where they reunited with their families. The FBI says the suspect and his father were both questioned by Jackson County Sheriff's officials last year after they received anonymous online tips about a school shooting threat. But at that point, they did not have probable cause to make an arrest. Well, they had to make an arrest. They kept an eye on him. Yeah. This also people think that this may be one of those cases where the parent, I guess, is only one. Right. Arrest

Starting point is 02:38:02 the parent. Arrested. Yeah. Where was that other one? That wasn't Oklahoma? That was another, I can't remember the name of the case. Time to expand. Arrest parents, arrest these parents. I think there's a big bonanza going on now with advertising and native ads in the big pharmaceutical space on network television.

Starting point is 02:38:30 Cause now, now it's on. I've been following this GLP-1 drugs. They want to get it on Medicare. They keep popping up these very awkward and somewhat devastating side effects. Now they're just saying, oh, it's not the GLP-1. It could be this one. It could be that one. And I think we're seeing a brand war now. Who's going to discredit the other one as not being the good one? And CBS is in on this. Millions upon millions of Americans have turned to prescription medications to treat diabetes and lose weight. These GLP-1 drugs, better known by brand names like Ozempic, Wigovia and others

Starting point is 02:39:05 are very popular. According to Gallup, about 15 million US adults say they've used these injectable drugs to reduce their body weight. Notice we have Pfizer with a pill, so these are the injectables. Some say those drugs can have serious negative health effects. Our senior investigative correspondent, Anna Warner, has been looking into that part of the story. Anna, good morning. Good morning, Tony.

Starting point is 02:39:28 Yeah, you know, many doctors say these GLP-1 medications can offer dramatic benefits for patients. But some patients say they've had serious side effects, ranging from nausea and vomiting to needing emergency surgery. Even doctors admit they can't always know who might experience these rare complications, like one woman from Pennsylvania.

Starting point is 02:39:47 And then we get the one from Pennsylvania with a heart-wrenching report. Diabetes is rampant in my family, and I knew that that all plays with weight. Juanita Gantz struggled with her weight. At age 62, she weighed 242 pounds. Yet the most she could lose trying various diets, she says, was about 20 pounds. I almost felt defeated and humiliated. I mean, why couldn't I lose this weight?

Starting point is 02:40:15 Then she saw ads for drugs, including Ozempic. Oh, oh, oh, Ozempic. Her doctor agreed- Pretty obvious who they're slamming here. Read that because of her diabetes risk She was a good candidate for one of those drugs and prescribed her we go V and later ozempic both GLP1 drugs made by novo nordisk. How were you feeling? I was feeling fine. I this seems so obvious

Starting point is 02:40:38 It just me that this is an obvious hit job on novo nordisk and not on other manufacturers Do I the ad where they play the jingle, that seems to me to be just a promotion. On drugs made by Novo Nordisk. How were you feeling? Were you? I was feeling fine. I enjoyed the days that I didn't have to worry about my appetite. I didn't, you know, have cravings. I just felt like I was doing something positive for myself.

Starting point is 02:41:04 And then. But several months later, in October, 2023, Gant's husband found her on the floor unconscious. This photo was taken by her daughter, a nurse at the hospital where Gant was taken. I had no idea what had happened to me. Doctors found parts of her large intestine had died. It had to be removed.

Starting point is 02:41:21 Then while recovering from surgery, she went into cardiac arrest, prompting the hospital to call her daughter to warn her her mother could die. This stuff will kill you. Underneath here is- Gant wanted to show us how she lives now. With her colon gone, she has a bag

Starting point is 02:41:37 called an ileostomy bag attached to her abdomen at all times to collect waste. I had no warning that this was even a possibility. She's now suing drug maker Novo Nordisk, claiming its drug labels do not adequately warn patients and doctors about potentially serious side effects, including gastroparesis or stomach paralysis and bowel obstruction. Gantz attorney Parvin Amino-Roya. It's put a lot of resources into marketing the drug,

Starting point is 02:42:07 hundreds of millions of dollars to expand the market, get new patients for the drug, but it hasn't spent that money on warning patients of the risk of gastroparesis, ileus, small bowel obstruction, and the fact that these injuries can be severe, even if it's in a rare case. Novo Nordis declined to do an on-camera interview, but in a statement said, the known risks and

Starting point is 02:42:29 benefits of the medicines are described in their FDA approved product labeling. The company wrote that the allegations in these lawsuits are without merit, and the company intends to vigorously defend against these claims. I don't know. I'm thinking the pill is the way to go. You don't want these injectables from Novo nor disc. Well, there's two things going on at the same time and you have to acknowledge your attitude about one of them, which is that you scare people to use it.

Starting point is 02:42:56 This is the thing with the tobacco warnings. Agreed. So that could be going on because when they play the jingle. Yeah, that is a trigger. That is bothersome. Yeah. So. People, you can stop emailing me

Starting point is 02:43:12 saying these drugs are great. Because I say stuff like, this was misunderstood. When I say you can eat whatever crap you want, people say, that's not true because you lose your appetite. No, no, what I'm saying is you can continue to eat the crap food that most Americans certainly eat, processed junk, which has little health benefit,

Starting point is 02:43:38 if anything, the reverse is true. And then you get fat from all these horrible ingredients and you get just, you just start to wither away in your lard. And, but then here's a drug that will fix it. You have to fix the root problem. The root cause is not eating actual food. No one's talking about that. That's why you're still with us. You're still alive because you eat actual food. No one's talking about that. That's why you're still with us.

Starting point is 02:44:07 You're still alive because you eat good food. You cook for yourself. Hey, what? Where's my Twinkies? Ha ha ha. We had a letter from a doctor, because we played that ad and all the side effects that were just horrible.

Starting point is 02:44:23 You break your bones, your head falls off, this sort of thing. He says he'd been giving this probably, he says, these are all new to him, these side effects. He's seen nothing to indicate this, but he couldn't explain where they came from. But I have a couple more. I don't have them in this series eclipse of more drugs with screwball side effects. I mean, why would you take a pill

Starting point is 02:44:45 that gives you tuberculosis? I mean, how does that even work? You notice this? Or anal leakage. There's more than one drug that they, be careful when you take this drug and you get tuberculosis, what? Yeah, yeah, anal leakage, no good, no good.

Starting point is 02:45:03 I have a Trump clip. Okay. Just to balance things off a little bit, we played clips of Harris, Yak and the Whore, we had Trump a little bit with Lex, but this is a classic. This is the Mosquitos? Yes. The Democrats, ooh, there was a mosquito. I don't want mosquitoes around me.

Starting point is 02:45:24 I don't want mosquitoes around me. I don't like mosquitoes. I don't like those mosquitoes. I never did. Okay, speaking of mosquitoes. Hello, Hillary, how are you doing? It's just this material. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh man, oh man, oh man. You know, I've been following what's happening in Germany with the Alternative für Deutschland Party. Right, the right-wingers. Which is fantastic because, you know, Scholz came out and said, hey, let's just block them. Whatever you do, don't enter into a coalition with them, which seems kind of undemocratic. Totally.

Starting point is 02:46:13 And then it turns out that they went back and checked the voting machines. And in order to sit in the minority, they actually were one vote short, which was caused by a computer glitch. Can you believe it? Well, yeah, I can believe it. And I have one example, this is just an intro to a roundtable conversation, but throughout Europe, this is, it's the same message over and over again, which I found just disturbing to hear. You'll, you'll notice it right away. Germany is reckoning with the results of regional elections that have

Starting point is 02:46:58 left many questioning whether German history is rearing its ugly head. For the first time, since Nazi rule, right-wing extremists have won a regional election in Germany in the state of Thuringia. This is what you hear all day long. For the first time since the Nazis, the far right have now garnered votes. So it's just this, they were hammering on this far right, far right, far right. Now they just, they equate it to Nazis. And it's a bunch of basically old German people who are sick of the immigration. Yeah, that's all it is.

Starting point is 02:47:36 And they're nationalists. And they want to protect the border and make Germany for Germans. And they're just being called Nazis. This is, this is not good It's really it's so this just bad Props to you. Mr. Dvorak you were right. Thank you Amazon was not going to stand for this team you and all these Chinese dropship companies that are practically giving the products away.

Starting point is 02:48:06 And Amazon PR and lobbyists are on the case. Federal regulators are now calling for an investigation into websites Sheen and Tmoo over potentially deadly baby and toddler products. Two consumer product safety commissioners are behind the new calls, citing a recent article online in the information that makes accusations alleging the foreign-owned bargain sides might be selling products that don't comply with U.S. safety regulations. Tiimou and Sheen have not commented on the article or the possible investigation. Yeah, they're killing babies.

Starting point is 02:48:36 We're going to ban them on that reason. What's happening to TikTok, by the way? Isn't that supposed to be over pretty soon? Aren't they supposed to be kicked out? I wish I had this clip. I'll try to, maybe I'll go back and get this clip for Sunday. Vivek was on a H.E.R.R. or Frau Ingram show and he was mentioning that this idea, he was pushing free speech notions and he mentioned TikTok as being just basically a free speech vehicle.

Starting point is 02:49:07 And she jumped all over him with, Oh no, you're wrong. This isn't that at all. These guys are this Chinese spying on us. And she went on off the deep end about this and she called him ignorant for thinking this way and all the rest of it was quite unique. She was really bent out of shape about TikTok and how it should go. Well, there was a viral sensation that took place with TikTok, which was a real head scratcher. And TikTok is being blamed for it.

Starting point is 02:49:36 Chase Bank is issuing a warning about a viral TikTok trend. A number of videos show people depositing checks for large sums of money at Chase ATMs and then making a withdrawal for a smaller amount. Many believe they got free cash from those ATMs, but Chase Bank says that wasn't a glitch, it was check fraud, a crime. Did you see any of this in your TikTok travels? Nope.

Starting point is 02:50:01 So there were just oodles, I said oodles of videos. It's actually a good word. Saying, Oh, look, if you deposit this check, you know, people putting in a $31,000 check, and then right away, you could then in the you can deposit that into the ATM, and you can say, Okay, now I want $20,000. And they were showing I don't know if it's true, they were showing the machine spitting out $20,000 and they were showing, I don't know if it's true, they were showing the machine spitting out $20,000 and somehow these morons thought that this was free money. People don't, the youngins these days don't even understand the basics of banking.

Starting point is 02:50:41 So they were kiting checks. The other thing is, that's not, it doesn't work that way. You can't necessarily put the money in and take it out immediately and you can only take out $400. That's what I thought. I have a pretty good sized checking account that has a lot of money in it and you can, trying to get more than 400 out, it doesn't spit out $20,000 in whatever bills. It doesn't have that much money in the damn thing.

Starting point is 02:51:07 That's why when I heard TikTok, I'm like, okay, this is an anti-TikTok thing. What else could it be? What else could it be? It has to be something like that. Well, the people, of course, you identified it before I did, which is that the anti-TikTok stuff is not, it's done by the other social media companies to get TikTok out of the way because they have a better

Starting point is 02:51:32 eligibility. There you go. There you go. So, this will work on that. I have a... I do have a TikTok clip to play though, which I think is a good one. Okay. This is my TikTok clip of the dude guy, this guy floats around, does a lot of these on the street interviews and he's got some

Starting point is 02:51:46 woman on there who thinks Trump should have been shot. Talk. Talk. TikTok. So Donald Trump was recently shot at one of his rallies. How do you feel about that? I wish he would have gotten shot in the forehead. Oh, this one.

Starting point is 02:52:01 Really? Yeah. I mean, he's basically like teaching our country like what communism is like. So what? So you wish death upon someone? Him? Yeah, unfortunately, I hate to say that because I don't have hatred in my soul at all. But I think the way that our country has divided families, marriages, all of it about politics alone. Like it all really started with him. So, and so do you think wishing someone death is not hateful? I would say, yeah, absolutely. I would say obviously I don't wish death upon him. I wish that he would be in jail for the insurrection, which he should be. Okay, yeah. But you just said you wish that he would get hit in the forehead.

Starting point is 02:52:48 It would have made things a little easier on our country. But actually, really, probably wouldn't because the Proud Boys would come out and start probably shooting other people. The Proud Boys? Yeah. Do you think that 60% of the country are the proud boys that support Trump? No, I think a lot of it is wealthy people that only care about the finances and... Democrats.

Starting point is 02:53:16 There's a lot of ignorance, I think, in this country and a lot of just unhealthy like bias and political propaganda. I don't think we have a good, we're fucked essentially as a country. We don't have a good runner at all. This was, I saw this clip and I didn't want to clip it because I was just like, but I'm glad you did. What is going on here is she has all the right information. She's just focused on the wrong party. It's the wicked, evil Democrat party who is doing it. And I don't like being partisan, but that is them. Everything she said is what you say, you are yourself.

Starting point is 02:54:14 Hateful. I said that twice today, but I agree 100%. And I said 100%. And she's pretty much an NPC. And the clue, by the way was those earthy open shoe sandals she was wearing. You see a woman like that you need to walk the other direction. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah that'd be fun. Yeah, on No Ag gender, in the morning.

Starting point is 02:54:48 And we want to thank our producers who came in $50 and above. We don't mention below $50 for reasons of anonymity. And of course, we have our sustaining donors. We appreciate everything that everyone does when it comes to the time, talent, and treasure of our value for value model now. And it's almost 17 years that we've been doing this and John would you mind reading some of these thank yous? Yes, I'm gonna throw it to you when we get to the birthday donation. Yeah sure, sure, sure. Benjamin Nytus in San

Starting point is 02:55:14 Francisco starts to solve a winner $66.66. He is doing a big meetup up in, uh, the old cat, old cat, this is Casadero, I guess, maybe Brewery and Roanart Park and go to noagentameetups.com to get information. Uh, M. Andrew Jones came with $111.11 and he, uh, he sent a note in, but he's the writer, right? He's the guy that does books. Yeah, he does fantasy fiction, which is not easy to write and he's sending his new book out. It's in the note. What's it called?

Starting point is 02:55:54 What's it called? I have to look at the note. I think I opened it. No, I didn't open it. The book is called, let me see, clocking in at a hefty 160,000 words, it's called Under Oblara. This chunky book took over seven years to produce and continues the adventure of Kriegel Berduvante as he tracks the thief Humbert through the wilds of Noeth. You can get on his newsletter list from m Andrew Jones dot-com yes like that yes He's a by count of very fine people. Yes good guy. So he is a good guy and They definitely worth checking out Joshua Stanfield in Marino Valley, California

Starting point is 02:56:44 $105.35. He's Charlie the Office Cat, I guess, or for the cat. Baron Lattekin, our buddy in Houston, Texas, $100. John Robinet, $100. Sir Kelly Spongberg, haven't heard from him for a while, from the Rocky Mountain House in Alberta, $100. No jingles, no karma, of course not. Still listening for over 17 years,

Starting point is 02:57:07 even though you've only been on 16 and.8. But he's magic, that man. Sir Road Dogg in Twin Falls, Idaho, 8008, followed by Kevin McLaughlin, our Archduke of Luna, lover of America, and Boobs with the 8008 boob donation. Tom Kiesel in Hanford California 8008 Luca Marie L as Berto in Savoza CH Switzerland Switzerland I guess that's where is 8.00 in the switcheroo for Marty from Otten Olten boobs and bladed Alton. Alton. Boobs and belated happy birthday to Adam. Yes, thank you.

Starting point is 02:57:45 Good for you to, Jeff Nosbush in Minneapolis, Minnesota 7777 and you can take the rest because these are all birthday call outs to Adam. Yes. The final batch of them. Yes, the final batch. And I think these are all 60s. Some have some fees added.

Starting point is 02:58:03 So I'll just say that they're all 60 and I will read the fan the happy birthday wishes surplus Fanta fiat of Adam of failure is on the yard of Sonder exit strategy Understood happy birthday says Daniel Bozak Mickey boss says happy birthday Adam. He's the Irish Catholic sinner Julie G happy birthday Adam happy belated anniversary John. Julie G. from Brighton, Ontario. In the beginning was the 60. That's the numerical value of the word apparently says Paolo Moore. Happy birthday AC from Brett Harding. Happy belated birthday Adam from Timothy Brashear, Sir Timothy. Valerie Ray, Alina Avavare, Van Harte Gefeliciteerd, Frolijke Ziel, Warme Groetjes, Alina and Sebastia, Sir Rain Man, Happy Birthday, Sir Rotorhead, Happy Birthday, Nicole Iovain, Ivan, Polly Robbins and Nicola Hanna all say Happy Birthday, as does Dave Jackson. I wonder if that's the famous school of podcasting

Starting point is 02:59:05 Dave Jackson. I'm thinking it might be. Ash is from Texas and says happy birthday and turns 53 today. So you're on the list. Happy birthday Adam from an Indiana douchebag. Steve Brown in Monticello. Edward Bala in Shul, Cork, Ireland. Happy 60th. Happy birthday Adam, we will raise a glass. The upcoming Tilburg meetup says Baron Robb. Happy birthday Adam from Allison Olsoski. Happy birthday Adam from Dan in Mount Juliet. Need some jobs Karma, I'll hit that at the end for you. And the final one is from Eric Fredericks, happy birthday.

Starting point is 02:59:43 And I thank you all very much. It has been a very happy birthday. It was nice turning 60, accentuated by, I mean it. I feel good. I feel good about this age. And I'm good for another four more years, at least. Brian Furley's up next. He's at 5510.

Starting point is 03:00:00 Sir Tom Dary comes in at 5510. Troy Funderberg in Missoula, Montana, 55. Heather Harper in Lubbock, Texas, 5333. Mark Hardwick in Aledo, Texas, 5333. Michael Gates, Parts Unknown, 5280. John Bassano in Madison, Alabama, 5272. And now we go to the 50s, which is curious because you didn't have any of the 50-01s, which is fine with me.

Starting point is 03:00:30 Matt Frazi in St. John's, Florida, Foster Birch in New York City. Daniel Laboy in Bath, Michigan. James Sharametta in Napanok. Kurt Patrick in Nanaimo, BC. Our Canadian friend. Jacob Martini is in El Monte, California. Michael Felix in Modesto. Chris Connacker Connacker in Anchorage. Alex Zavala in Kyle, Texas. Kalori Carey Crooks in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Make some comment about the money. Jason Delusio in Miami Beach, Sir Jason.

Starting point is 03:01:17 And Sir Severn Up Partridge in San Rafael, California. I want to thank all these people for making shows 1692 the reality that it is and thank you to all our sustaining donors who came in under 50 or under 50 for reasons of Anonymity go to no agenda donations calm to support the show You know, you want to do it. You got the value send it back Whatever it's worth to you and here's the jobs karma as requested jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs karma support the show no attend the donations.com and we do have a list here dame mama susan wishes her birth that her daughter

Starting point is 03:02:02 julia biel a happy one this is is belated. Celebrate on the 1st. Dan says happy birthday with his wife Angie. It's her birthday today. Jay wishes Marnie a happy birthday. Is this RJ, our very own Jay? J-A-E-J-A? And her dog Marnie. Ah, her dog Marnie turns two years old today. Happy birthday Marnie. Ashton Texas turns 55 today. Freya turns 55 tomorrow. And Dame Mama Susan herself. She celebrates on September 7. Happy birthday for everybody here. The best podcast in the universe. And no title changes, but we do have two dames and one night to bring up. So bring out this blade. One night. Very nice. bring out this blade. Here's my two-day one-night blade. Very nice blade, thank you very much.

Starting point is 03:02:46 Up on the podium, Angie, Genevieve, Wimberly, Kyle, Tohig, all of you are gonna get that shiny nice ring and an official knighting or daming ceremony. I'm very proud to pronounce Kate the as Dame Little Anne of where the red fern grows, Dame Jen a G protector of women's vaginas and sir spook of Spokane protector of Infrastructure for you. We've got hookers and blow rent boys and Charmin a chardonnay salmon nigiri and a plate of 12 Lengua tacos Patagonian tooth fish French crepes and champagne along with sparkling cider escorts gin trail and gerbils French crepes and champagne, along with sparkling cider and escorts, gin, trail and gerbils, breast milk and pabliment, of course, the mutton and mead. That's right, it's always here for you at the round table.

Starting point is 03:03:30 And if you go to noagenderrings.com, give us all your information so we can send off your handsome knight and dame ring. There's a handy sizing guide there, so we know what size to send to you. It is a signet ring, so we provide the wax for which you can use to seal your import correspondence. It is a signet ring so we provide the wax for which you can use to seal your import correspondence and as always to make it official there is a certificate of authenticity. Thank you all for supporting the show and welcome new nights, new nights and new dames to the No Agenda Roundtable. No agenda meetups.

Starting point is 03:03:59 It's like a party. Yes, those No Agenda meetups are always like a party. People like coming together, the people that part, that No Agenda together, stay together and often party together, as is the case with the North Idaho Sanity Brigade. Here's their meetup report. Hey, it's Sir Scott the Jew here at the nuptials, the celebration of the wedding of Kyle the spook from Spokane and Jen with a G. These two have both found their last best spouse and unlike their first marriages this wedding was no cheap fake. In the morning here's your

Starting point is 03:04:32 Spook from Spokane celebrating the daming and the nighting of Jen with a G and the Spook with Spokane. We couldn't be happier. In fact we're just gonna go stay in a castle tonight because I just locked down the total keeper Smoking hot wife material all the way. I love you, Jen. I am Brian also spook Congratulations to spook a Spokane and Jen with a G. Love you guys. So excited that you're no agenda-ing together, staying together and Living life together. Ride all the trails and find the powder turns, baby. This is Jen with a G. We're gonna prove better than anybody else in the whole world that those who know Jen together stay together. And in honor of our daming and knighting today, we are gonna stay in a castle and we will send pictures. So raise your glasses as high as you

Starting point is 03:05:19 can and let's toast to Kyle and Jen. May your love continue to grow on every trail. May every day together be a powder day. And may uber Kyle with Jen and the G away into the sunset forever. That's the kind of fun you want to be at. I'm telling you these meetups are off the hook and sometimes they're in historical places like the monument to the forefathers in Plymouth. In the morning, good mo' nation. This is Hay Citizen at the Adam and Tina We're Here meetup. Dame D'Amorean was here. Mr. Spencer Wolf of Kansas City, we're here in beautiful Plymouth, it's right on the water.

Starting point is 03:05:59 In the morning, this is Conjian. Happy birthday, Adam. I'm John Winston Pearson. I'm love. Hi, John and Adam. This is Wyan. In the morning, I am coincidentally visiting the monuments today and I hear on my agenda that there's a meetup up here. So I stop by and say hi. So in the morning.

Starting point is 03:06:20 In the morning. In the morning. Ah, very nice. There's a couple of meetups taking place. In fact, today the 805 rooftop meetup is underway at Gallita HGI Rooftop in Gallita, California. The Northern Wake Publical Slave Gathering kicks off at six at Happy Endings in Raleigh, North Carolina. Get on and get in the car.

Starting point is 03:06:39 Go and visit them. The Denver Back to the Bar Meetup, 830 tonight at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado. Tomorrow, the Go Pack Go at HQ 630 at Headquarters Bar in Oregon, Wisconsin. On Saturday, the tiny amygdala of Anchorage Rain Dance, that's two o'clock in the afternoon. This is in Anchorage, Alaska at Sir Lane's house, so you need to RSVP, do it quick if you want to go there for Saturday. The Real Fox Valley number 4, 330 at Two Brothers Roadhouse in Aurora, Illinois. That is the Chi-Rac Central meetup locale. On Sunday, the annual, the monthly NA Tribal September Shindig 330 at Prodigy Burger Bar,

Starting point is 03:07:22 Indianapolis, Indiana. Mark Amria of the Greenwood, of course, organizing that as always. And on Sunday as well, the TooManyEggs.com meetup, 333 at Jasho Jamaica Grill in Keene, New Hampshire. Many more to find, many more to see, many more to take part in. And a reminder, October 18th is a Fredericksburg, Texas meetup. I'm very excited about that. We will be attending. But every single meetup has people you've heard of before on the show. You've heard them in the meetup reports.

Starting point is 03:07:50 Maybe you recognize them as Knights and Dames. People come out, wear their rings, and you all get together. And there's never, ever been a fight, never been any kind of bad vibes at a No Agenda meetup because connection brings protection. NoAgendaMeetups.com if you can't find one near you, start one yourself. Always guaranteed a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you want to be, triggered on hell's flame.

Starting point is 03:08:22 You want to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. Always a party. Party, party, party, party, party. It's a good party. I have, let me see, I have two Isos. We'd like to pick them before we end the show. And this will be our end of show iso. I have, do you have any isos at all? I have one.

Starting point is 03:08:49 Okay. Well, let me see. I'm looking for it. Oh, here it is. Okay. I'm going to play yours. I don't like mosquitoes. Not bad, but I have this one.

Starting point is 03:09:03 Sir, pick a hole. Oh, this is gross I have this one. Sir, pick a hole. Mm-hmm. Oh, this is gross. Or this one. Hey, that actually wasn't so bad. I like that one. I thought you'd like that one. I liked it too.

Starting point is 03:09:15 All right, everybody, end of the show. That means it's time for the famous tip of the day. Greetings for you and me. Just the tip with JCB and sometimes Adam. We are very excited as always to hear about John's tip of the day. What do you have for us, John? Okay, this is a call back to the, about two weeks ago I talked about a foaming device you could put in your hose and you can also buy more expensive ones for your pressure

Starting point is 03:09:42 washer. Yes, yes, this was a- To foam up your car. A lot of people were happy, including me. I like this foaming tip. Well, here's the followup to it, which is, and this is Mimi turned me onto this stuff. Now I had washed my car a few days before that tip

Starting point is 03:10:01 and this is like two weeks ago. For two and a half weeks at least, my car, and I've washed it before. I haven't washed. I wash it. I do the, not one speck of dust or dirt has stuck to the car for the, I've never seen anything like this for two and a half weeks. And it, and I have to credit it to the, did it wash the wax off? No, the white, no, it's shinier and shiny. I have a, I have a ceramic coated car, but it, and it's shiny as can be.

Starting point is 03:10:32 It's unbelievable. And it's all due to this product, which Mimi says, you know, you got to start looking at these guys. It's called chemical guys. Chemical guys. And the one I used in this case was the watermelon snow foam auto wash, pH neutral with foaming agents and it's got it the list of ingredients is outrageous but there's obviously something in here these guys know what they're doing for washing products and cleaning products and you can they are available on Amazon but they're all over the place.

Starting point is 03:11:06 But the company is chemical guys. And I would recommend looking at what they they're making. They obviously are chemists that are a high order chemist that know what they're doing. And this is, I have no idea how, sorry. Well, do you think they have a product that can clean metal roofs like the kind we have in Texas? I think if you got a hold of them you could ask. Got all the tree sap on it and the dust gets into it.

Starting point is 03:11:31 Quite possible they do. They have a, I was going over the products with the Jay was looking at this stuff too and I, and it has stuff on it like it has some chemicals in here that are kind of interesting, including benzene. Oh, okay. Which for a car wash is very unusual, but it does take off the benzene itself will take off what you're bitching about. It's not a healthy item, benzene isn't. Don't drink it, just wash your car with it.

Starting point is 03:12:00 You know, I'm not drinking it. This stuff, I'm sure if you drank this this wash you would be dead in minutes Hmm, but I'm telling you it's I'm still stunned the car at this point I don't know how that mood there'd be months before I have to wash the car again. There's something in here They're doing they're doing something special. It's the company's chemical guys. Look for their products check We are your local legislation for products that may be Your state. Oh, there it is. No, they're great tip of the day guys. Show us your tips I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I got startled by that jingle. Thank you. Keep the tips coming We show you your tips every single show we do it for you. That's right

Starting point is 03:12:41 And that concludes your no agenda show in its sixteenth year episode 1692 we do have some end of show mixes we got Leo La Puke with a classic we have a David Kekta bringing us the back beat and professor Jay Jones returns from China with with another one of his mixes this time it's about joy so you know that's gonna be good. Coming up right after the No Agenda show on the stream, if you're listening to us at trollroom.io or on the Modern Podcast app, we have the Mere Mortals book review. Oh, that's Kyren from Australia. He'll be, let's see, he's reviewing. It's helpful to question everything,

Starting point is 03:13:27 the problems of philosophy. Well, that'll keep you awake. Love Kyron. And I am coming to you from the cruise ship capital of Mexico, right here, a little bit north of Fort Vallarta. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm not on the run in Mexico, I'm John C. Dvorak.

Starting point is 03:13:53 Remember us at knowagenthodonations.com. We'll see you on Sunday. I'll still be here. Till then, adios, mofos, a hooey, hooey and such. buying a new faucet. You turn it on, no water comes out. We won't talk about toilets. But how about the shower? I have this beautiful head of hair, I need a lot of water. You turn on the water, drip, drip, drip. Trump on the water. It's a very unpleasant experience.

Starting point is 03:14:43 Trump on the water. Trump! The situation where we're looking very strongly at sinks and showers and other elements in bathrooms. I'm talking about dishwashers, sinks, toilets. People are flushing toilets ten times, fifteen times. When it comes down to score ratings. Since when does the Vice President have what sounds like a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent?

Starting point is 03:14:54 And when does he have a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent?

Starting point is 03:15:02 And when does he have a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent? And when does he have a southern accent? People are flushing toilets ten times, fifteen times. When it comes down to score ratings. Since when does the Vice President have what sounds like a southern accent? I have no idea what you're talking about. Well, I mean this is... She was talking about unions in Detroit using one tone of voice. Is this something that he...

Starting point is 03:15:20 Same line that she used in Pittsburgh and it it's Burge and it's kind of like she at least had some kind of a southern roll. I mean, do you hear the question? I mean, do you think Americans seriously think that this is an important question? You know what they care about?

Starting point is 03:15:35 They care about the economy. The news, the Biden administration taking a series of actions to target what they allege are attempts by Russian backed actors to manipulate public opinion here in the US.S. ahead of the presidential election, according to two senior U.S. officials. Judy Stalins, NBC's Candelainian, Ken, what more have we learned?

Starting point is 03:15:56 Jose, this is being described by our sources as a whole-of-government action designed to target Russian propaganda and disinformation aimed at interfering in the 2024 election. It is said to include sanctions by the Treasury Department, law enforcement action by the Justice Department, and one of the focuses is on RT, formerly known as Russia Today. In her infinite wisdom to do her bit for the party, NPR has appointed a Joyzar. No. Yes. That's right. I love that black joy. There's only two types of vibes man. One is hope and joy. Most elections are vibes elections. Who wants to be the Joyzar? No hands go up. Is it Joy Behar? The politics of joy.

Starting point is 03:16:48 Vibes election that we're all feeling right now. Talk about your disinformation. Ratchet up our joy quotient. Joy! Ratchet! Joyzar, yes. It already felt like a vibes election before. Vibes election, come on!

Starting point is 03:17:04 No one wants to hear that. Insinuating he had sex with his couch. I like that piece. That's trash shit! You have the Joy Department? Ooh, Joy Division. That should be a donation level. Joyzar. JD Vance said this. Uplifting stories. He hates women. Vibes, man. Vibes.

Starting point is 03:17:32 It was pathetic. Politics of joy and your joy quotient. For the party. Isn't that a Nazi thing? Most elections are vibes elections. Because it took him two days to edit it down. Black joy on screen live. Joy Division. Nazis. A lot of corn sweat stuff. Stating your policy Ratchet up our joy quotient. Just ratchet! The best podcast in the universe! Mopo.

Starting point is 03:18:14 Dvorak.org. Slash. N. A. Hey, that actually wasn't so bad.

No Agenda - 1692 - "Salted Ducks"

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.