No Agenda - 1697 - "neat-o"

Episode Date: September 22, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the game. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, September 22nd, 2024. This is your award winning Giveaway Nation Media Assassination episode 1697. This is No Agenda. Yeah. Unabashedly analog and broadcasting live
Starting point is 00:00:17 from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all sick of hearing about deodorant for pits and privates, I'm John C. Dvorak. Are you watching broadcast television again? Yes, of course. I always monitor it.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Oh man. There's a bunch of disgusting commercials There's at least three different ones where you have some gruesome people Yes, including some big fat woman Oh, and they're putting this stuff all over their bodies and they're but in their thighs and talking about pits and privates It's all body deodorants. Well, when did this have become a trend? How many do these modern women stink to high heaven? When's the last time you sniffed the lady?
Starting point is 00:01:10 Uh-huh. See I got you there. Not Joe Biden. Oh Yes, well, I don't know what's going on with that but we're just off the rails everybody's off the rails This amazing what everyone's off the rails. Everybody's off the rails. It's amazing. Everyone's off the rails. Every, yeah, the rails, the guard rails, the rails. Everyone's like, ah, oh no. The culture war economy is in full cycle. Oh, Kamala.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Oh, Oprah. Oh, Hollywood. Oh. Oprah. Did you see that thing, man? I saw enough of it. I couldn't watch the whole thing. It was interesting because it was... It was just her speech turned into like a repeat.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Yes! She says absolutely nothing as usual. She talked about being a middle-class kid and all the whole thing. I have only one clip from it, which is the one that they passed around the most. Yes. She talked about being a middle class kid and all the whole thing. I have only one clip from it, which is the one that was, they passed around the most. Well, wait, before we do that, let me just play this 29 seconds of Oprah! Thanks for joining us for this very special event. Unite for America!
Starting point is 00:02:20 Unite for America! Republicans for Harris love that group even more. More! The Swifties for Kamala! Look out! Chris Rock is in the house! House! We're in the house!
Starting point is 00:02:36 Jennifer Lopez! Lopez! House! Please welcome Kamala Harris! Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris. She's like a parody of herself. Yes, I love that she says Kamala Harris. She was so, by the way, that's racist.
Starting point is 00:02:56 She was so, because you know, when you say, that's why people say Kamala Harris because Kamala Harris. So she's like, I got to say Kamala, better not say it wrong. Kamala Harris. So she's like, I got to say Kamala better not say it wrong. Kamala Harris. Hello 1982 Oprah. I mean, does that still work? Do people still get all jacked up about that? In the house. Hello 1991 our CEO Hall show. In the house. John Cena-Foregg, in the house. Hey, I'm Adam Curry, in the house. In the hissy house. Please.
Starting point is 00:03:30 And then you push your arms, you're pushing the roof off. Yeah, yeah, you pump your fist. That's all that was missing. You pump your fist. Oh, man. It was embarrassing, the whole thing. The whole thing. Let me just...
Starting point is 00:03:46 The celebrities. I mean, if any, if at any point there was a career killer for anyone in Hollywood, it was showing up on this show. I agree. I have lost all respect for those people. Let's see who we have. Come on, let's introduce him. Oprah! I see some faces! Why can't she talk right? This is crazy! This is not
Starting point is 00:04:13 modern, it wasn't television, it was streaming only. There's Brian Cranston! That's it no more breaking bad for me Here Chris Rock is in the house John for Lopez Tracy Ellis Ross. Who? Who? Jennifer Lopez! Oh, Jennifer, what happened to JLo? Jennifer Lopez! Jenny on the block!
Starting point is 00:04:57 Tracy Ellis Ross, where are you? Tracy Ellis, where are you? On the screen, Tracy Ellis! Oh! Tracy Ellis, where are you on the screen? Tracy Ellis! Hey! Hey! Hey!
Starting point is 00:05:05 Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Julia Roberts, where are you? Oh! What an overbite! It's unbelievable, that overbite!
Starting point is 00:05:14 Hey! Hey! Hey! And this Meryl Streep is in the house! Meryl Streep and Diddy in the house! Oh, I'm sorry. Hey! Hey!
Starting point is 00:05:24 Diddy not in the house! Oh, I'm sorry. Diddy not in the house. Man! That was just like, are people still falling for this? You made your point. Yes, they are. Well, maybe not. I don't think so. You know who's falling for it? It's people who are online. They're like, oh man, oh yeah, look what they're doing man.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It's all lies man. People who disagree with Kamala Harris, they're like, oh, it's not real people. None of this is real. It's a show. It's a show and it's a dumb show. None of these, it's so phony, so fake, so obvious. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:09 You want to play your clip? I only have the one. No. Oh, what you got? It's the, it's the, it's the universal answer. She gives to everything. We take pride in the privilege of being American. And this is a moment where we can and must come together
Starting point is 00:06:28 as Americans, understanding we have so much more in common than what separates us. Let's come together. Come together. The character that we are so proud of about who we are, which is we are an optimistic people. Wait, wait, what? We are an optimistic people. Wait, wait, what? We are an optimistic people.
Starting point is 00:06:46 We are. Americans by character are people who have dreams and ambitions and aspirations. We believe in what is possible. But the rent's too high, Kamala. We believe in what can be. And we... Whoa, she left out the best part. What?
Starting point is 00:07:08 Unburdened by what has been. Unburdened by what has been, yes. That's a flub. She flubbed her line. That's how we came into being. Because the people before us understood that one of the greatest expressions for the love of our country, one of the greatest expressions of patriotism is to fight for the ideals of who we are, which includes freedom to make decisions about your own body, freedom to be safe from gun violence, freedom to have
Starting point is 00:07:40 access to the ballot box, freedom to be who you are and just be. To love who you love openly and with pride. Freedom to just be. Be. America will never, never elect her president. Ever. No, but they can rig it. No, they're not even going to be able to rig it. No, no, no. So there was an interesting,
Starting point is 00:08:08 I didn't get this clip, but there was a, they had on, I think it was one of the, uh, uh, Acosta or Casa, whatever his name is, on CNN had his, her assistant on, because she talked about having a gun and shooting some guy in her house. And they brought the assistant on, because she did say, Kamala said, well, my staff will take care of whatever I said later. Yeah. And she comes on his show and says, she doesn't have a gun.
Starting point is 00:08:36 What? You didn't get that clip? No, it came in late. It was like on some... No. I can get it if you really wanted to hear it. No, I came in late. It was like on, it was on some... No. But I can get it if you really wanted to hear it. No, I believe you. But I can assure you that's what the assistant said.
Starting point is 00:08:49 The camera has no gun, which I believe. Cammie's got no gun. I can already see in the troll room, Adam has more faith in the American people than I do right now. Get off of the internet, bro. Get off of the internet. That's a chat room. Troll guy? of the internet. That's a chat room. Troll guy.
Starting point is 00:09:08 What's his name? He's already scrolled by. Guess what? 5662. No, it's troll. It's troll72945. This was my favorite piece because here you have
Starting point is 00:09:24 1980s, 1990s celebrities. Bring in some reality people. Bring in someone from Survivor or what is it? Love Island. That's who people today want to see. Bring in some Love Island celebrities. Now we got Meryl Streep and this was hilarious. I wanted to ask you. I can't believe I have this opportunity.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Oh, I'm so, I can't believe I'm talking to Kamala Harris. I probably never will again. Never again. That's right. That's correct. That's probably true. That's probably true. You nailed it, Meryl Streep. I probably never will again. I have a little Debbie Downer moment because actually I think you're going to win. I'm sure you're going to win. Yeah! Yeah go girl!
Starting point is 00:10:18 What happens when you win? Uh oh. I'm worried about it and I wonder if we're ready for January 7th, or 8th, 9th. What happens? What happens? So we will be ready. But just taking a step back. And thank you, Marilyn for your just the gift. Thank you, Marilyn. you Marilyn. She said Marilyn. Yes, that's why I play the clip. Thank you Marilyn for your answer. Hello. How out of touch are you? Thank you Marilyn. Wow, I missed that. Yeah, yeah. She said Marilyn to Meryl Streep. What happens? So we will be ready, but just taking a step back and thank you Meryl for your, just the gift that you gave.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And Streep is just looking like, ah, what did I sign up for? What did I do? What did I do? Well, the only question that mattered was this one. And she gave the same wrong answer. We really would love to know what your plan is to help lower the cost of living. Yeah, first of all, thank you both for being here.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Thank you, Meryl. And yours is a story I hear around the country as I travel. And hey, stop, it's not a story, lady. It's a question. It's not a story. It's not a story. It's a question. A story I hear around the country as I travel.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And in terms of both rightly having the right to have aspirations and dreams. What? I'm peeing my pants. This is so good. Rightly having the right to have aspirations and dreams. What? I'm peeing my pants. This is so good. This is... Yeah, this is the other clip I would have gotten. I'm glad you got it.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Oh, no. It's the best. Rightly having the right to have aspirations and dreams. I rightly am having the right to have aspirations and dreams. Bam! Nailed it. And ambitions for your family and working hard and finding that the American dream is for this generation
Starting point is 00:12:35 and so many recently far more elusive than it's been. And we need to deal with that. We need to deal with it. And there are a number of ways. One is bringing down the cost of everyday necessities, including groceries. That's right. I'm going to bring down the cost. I'm going to wave my wand and pooh, we're going to make it so. I'm your fairy godmother. Please. Let's just listen to how the media played this. Let's go overseas for a moment to France, France 24.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Please welcome Kamala Harris. It wasn't technically a campaign rally, but it may as well have been. Kamala Harris was welcomed with open arms by superstar host Oprah Winfrey in front of hundreds of thousands of live streamers and a studio audience in Michigan, one of the seven crucial battleground states that will decide the election.
Starting point is 00:13:24 It seems to us that will decide the election. It seems to us that something happened to you. Why does Oprah talk like this? Something happened to you. She's not from Africa. I think it's the ozempic has affected her speech. Battleground states that will decide the election. It seems to us that something happened to you.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Where's Oprah? Isn't Oprah from Louisiana? She's from Ghana. The moment President Biden stepped aside and withdrew his candidacy, that a veil or something dropped, Oh yes, oh was dropped already. For panties? Oh, John. Into your... Power! Power!
Starting point is 00:14:12 And the next week I saw you walking in the thing... In the thing? What happened to you? You know, we each have those moments in our lives where it's time to step up. It's time to step up. That's right. From Jennifer Lopez, Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts to Chris Rock and Ben Stiller, the Unite for America event was marked by celebrities who beamed in remotely to endorse Harris. Beamed in? Did she say beamed in? Did they beam in? They beamed in remotely.
Starting point is 00:14:41 The Unite for America event was marked by celebrities who beamed in remotely to endorse Harris. And this pitched to gun owners from the Democratic candidates. I'm a gun owner Tim Miles is a gun... I did not know that! If somebody breaks in my house again shot. A seemingly candid comment. How do you think that plays? How do you think that plays in general with the Kamala Harris audience? Oh, she's badass, man. She's going to shoot me. What? What? I'm confused.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I have no idea. It's beyond me why that was a talking point of hers. It wasn't a talking point. It was a complete misser. It was wrong. You don't say that. It's odd. don't say that. It's odd. My house again shot. Seemingly candid comment from Harris. Probably should not have said that. Nonetheless, support stricter gun laws, including a ban on assault weapons and more background checks. The glitzy talk show screened with a presidential race neck and neck.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Neck and neck. Six weeks to go to election day. Neck and neck. And they weeks to go until election day. Neck and neck, and they beamed in. Yes. Let's listen to ABC's version. Vice President Kamala Harris touching down in Battleground, Michigan.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Hoping to harness the star power of one of her most influential supporters, Oprah Winfrey. Together, let's all choose Kamala Harris. Oh, now she get it right. Yeah, hi, this is Oprah. Could you do me a favor and not put the Harris bit in, but do it where I corrected it and said it right and said, you know, could you put that in your package and take out the Harris?
Starting point is 00:16:17 Kamala Harris! Was that supposed to be from the same event? It's the same event, yeah. And they swapped out the intro to Harris? Sounds like it to me. Interesting, huh? ...hosting a virtual rally with Harris, hoping to reach voters in the critical states that will determine this race.
Starting point is 00:16:41 The campaign touting that nearly 200,000 people are registered for the online event. Oprah, a self-proclaimed independent, speaking directly to the sliver of voters who could make the difference. I'm calling on all you independents. That's you, John C. Dvorak. I hope you were tuned in. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Unaffiliated, big difference.
Starting point is 00:17:00 All you undecideds. This is the... You know this is true. You know I'm telling you the truth, that values and character matter most of all. No, no. People want the rent too high, Oprah. That's what people want the rent's too high Oprah. That's what people want, the rent to come down.
Starting point is 00:17:30 And all they hear from Trump is, drill, I'm going to lower the cost of energy. That lowers the cost of anything. Almost everybody understands that message. And I truly think this was the death knell for the Harris campaign. But that didn't stop her from going to the battleground states and code switching again. With the presidential election less than two months away, Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:17:55 continue to ramp up their campaigns. This afternoon, Harris spoke in Atlanta about reproductive rights while slamming Republicans. And these hypocrites want to start talking about this isn't the best interest of women and children. Well, where you been? Where you been? Where you been?
Starting point is 00:18:12 Where you been? When it comes to taking care of the women and children. Where you been? Where you been? Where you been? Where you been? Where you been? Where you been?
Starting point is 00:18:22 I'm wearing my bin. Where you been? No, no. It's a mistake. It's a mistake. I don't think America would have been ready for her regardless, but America is a, we want a daddy. We don't want a mommy. That's what we want.
Starting point is 00:18:38 She's not a mommy. No. Well, she's trying to be, she's trying to be mama la. Mama la. Mama la. So, no, I'm not too be a she's trying to be mama la mama la mama la So now I'm not too worried. Not you. Yeah. Well, it's got no no no, it's gotten even better. No, it's still doable Yeah, but you know, they're trying to do this has been brought up in the number of on the right wing They're trying to flip New York
Starting point is 00:19:02 Because it makes all these swings states irrelevant. Because who cares about this and that if you get New York. Yeah. This is the biggest show on earth and it's playing out as such. And it's just amazing. It's enjoyable. Oh, it's to us because we step back and we go,
Starting point is 00:19:21 what a dumb show. It stinks. Turn on Love Island. Come on, let's get something good. But at least we're not Diddy. Hate to say it, but we called it. Now to the latest in the arrest of rap mogul, Sean Diddy Combs, who is being held without bail in Brooklyn's Metropolitan Detention Center while he awaits trial.
Starting point is 00:19:41 According to NBC News' Chloe Molasse, Diddy has been placed under a suicide watch, and she joins us now in studio with more details. Chloe, walk us through your latest reporting. What do we know right now? So we know from a source close to the situation that yes, he is under suicide watch, Alastin, but this is a precautionary measure because he is a high profile inmate.
Starting point is 00:20:02 But just moments ago, we just received a statement from Combs's team, and they say that he is strong, healthy, and he's focused on his defense. He is committed to fighting this case and has full confidence in both his legal team and the truth. And look, he could be behind bars for up to a year. That's how long it could take for this to finally get to trial. He offered to give himself up, but now he's on suicide watch? Hmm. Did he steal?
Starting point is 00:20:31 He probably expected to get bail. But I don't understand what the point of all this is because they've grabbed all the blackmail material. Yeah. And so they now have it. They have one loose end. Yeah, but he doesn't, unless he has a, it's one of those, you know, kill switch where he can, where the blackmail material's been online and now could be released to the dark web. We can just talk all he wants. Doesn't make me anything. Oh no, John, the dark web?
Starting point is 00:20:59 Yeah, the dark, or the darkest web. Say it ain't so, the dark web. Oh no. Hmm. Anyway, I don't know what I, I, the blackmail material has been transferred to the blackmailers. So, uh, which by the way, brings up, I, we don't have the clip of it, but when Howard Stern goes off, do you think that maybe he was compromised at some point and he now has to, No, he doesn't even want to shake someone's hand.
Starting point is 00:21:29 That's true, he's a germaphobe. No. Which makes you think he... Before we get too far away from the election, I do have a... Oh, no, I had one more... Okay, forget the other Diddy clip. He's being moved to another prison, which is where it always happens, you see. Well, as long as they have the cameras on. prison, which is where it always happens, you see.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Well, as long as they have the cameras on. Yeah, no, the cameras will malfunction. The guards will be asleep. He did not kill himself. It's so obvious. And 15 years, you know. At this point, they're not gonna be able to pull this off. They're not gonna do that.
Starting point is 00:22:01 He's not gonna get killed. Okay. You can write it in the book. All right. You have the book. I don't have the book. I have the book. You have the book. You have the book. I want to play these two clips about the election because it's got the kind of subtle propaganda that only NPR and PBS produce. And this is a look back at a movie called The Election. Hmm. I don't remember this movie. I don't remember it either, but I guess it was a big hit. It had Reese Witherspoon playing some young whore, a student who was running for some office or other, and it was very
Starting point is 00:22:41 reflective of Hillary's campaign. I guess this movie came out in 2015, 2016. I kind of remember this, yeah. And somebody once I think asked her, do you want to play Hillary Clinton in a biopic? She says no, I already have referring to this movie. And so I just had two clips from it. And because there is a WTF moment in the second clip,
Starting point is 00:23:04 let's play the intro. I know a lot of you were thinking about the presidential election, but as we continue our series looking back at some of the notable films of 1999, this weekend we wanted to focus on a different look at the democratic process, Alexander Payne's film, Election. You see, I believe in the voters. They understand that elections aren't just popularity contests. Wow, she even has the Hillary cadence. That's kind of interesting. Yeah, this was in 99.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yeah, that was good. This country was built by people just like me who work very hard and don't have everything handed to them on a silver spoon. Those are the words of high school overachiever Tracy Flick played in a breakthrough performance by Reese Witherspoon. Since Payne's satire first hit theaters, Tracy has become an archetype of female ambition as well as a litmus test for how our society views ambitious women and how that has changed over time since the movie first came out. As viewed by her teacher, played by Matthew Broderick, Tracy is a threat. Who knew how high she would climb in life?
Starting point is 00:24:06 How many people would suffer because of her? I had to stop her. Predictive programming anybody? So they go on, this by the way is a lot, I have two, one something, minute clips over a 15 minute analysis. They brought some woman in from Vox Media, who's some critic, and she's brags about being a journalist. And when you listen to some of the things she says, you wonder what kind of a journalist she is.
Starting point is 00:24:38 But they go back and forth about how this was a big deal during Clinton's run because they didn't, you know, it was reflected in this character in the movie. But now it's changed, it's changed so much. And nobody, now it's like, you know, and they mention that the movie's not brought up anymore and Kamala's a different person, and oh, it's great now, and things,
Starting point is 00:25:01 the society's changed enormously, and blah, blah, blah, but there's a little gotcha in this clip that I think you'll spot. I have not seen any overt Tracy flick references that much in this moment where Kamala Harris is running to be the first woman president. Have you seen it at all? Do you think it's not as relevant this time around? Do you think things have changed enough or am I just not looking in the right corners of the internet?
Starting point is 00:25:27 Absolutely. I have also not seen very many Tracy flick references when it comes to Kamala Harris. Where I think that election can be helpful when thinking about Kamala Harris is the way that Mr. M, the antagonist against Tracy, ends up using her sexuality to humiliate her as punishment for her running for office. He is constantly threatening to reveal the relationship she had with her teacher. He has a lot of very sexual fantasies about her that are sort of about him establishing his masculinity over her. And what we've seen with Kamala Harris is that consistently figures on the
Starting point is 00:26:13 right starting with Donald Trump, they have made the false claim that she started her political career because of a relationship she had with Lily Brown in the 1990s. He was the former mayor of San Francisco. False. It's false. Without evidence. Oh, we've got a lot of evidence. False claim. Starting with Donald Trump, starting bull crap with Donald Trump. This has been California lore since Willie Brown was around years before Donald Trump even showed up on the scene. How does it start with Donald Trump? He's never even mentioned it that I know of. Here's your clue. Vox Media.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Hello. It's unbelievable how they get away and then they let this slip. This is your NPR, National Treasure, let it slip. False. She uses the word false. When there's, it's not false. It's been well documented. There's pictures of her with this guy.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And with Diddy. Yeah, yeah. It's true. There's pictures of her with this guy. And with Diddy. Yeah, yeah. In the same nightgown outfit when she was with Montell Williams. Yeah. Yeah, false. False.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Just because a woman is sexy and hangs out with celebrities doesn't mean she's loose, John. Doesn't mean she's a whore. Oh, dude. No, it doesn't mean she's a whore. Oh dude. No, it doesn't mean she's a whore. I just use the phrase. Prostitute use a better phrase. You know, there's a difference between a whore and a prostitute. Oh, please do explain.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I think one is gets the money up front. John, I think they all want it upfront. I don't, I don't think there's any difference with the money upfront between the two, but you know, the law, this is what, so yesterday Tina and I went to see, am I racist in the movie theater? Which I didn't even know. Yes, it's Matt Walsh.
Starting point is 00:28:06 They put that in the theaters? Well, remember that the whole idea of Jeremy boring was he wants, he's a frustrated movie producer. So, you know, they had that first thing about the basketball team, kind of that, uh, you know, I think they streamed that online. I'm not sure it was like, it was, it was supposed to be a comedy and it didn't really go anywhere. They want to be a movie production company. By the way, the movie has done almost $5 million in two weeks and they expect it to go over
Starting point is 00:28:40 10, which would be triple its production budget. So shup-ho-bah, that's pretty good. So I didn't know that this was in theaters only, because I thought I had seen pieces of it. It turns out that I guess they had maybe 10. Yeah, so. I think, I thought it was online somewhere. There were pieces of it, there were pieces of it.
Starting point is 00:29:00 But what was genius about this is he, in essence, it's satirical, but he dresses up and wear the man bun and everything and he then he goes around and tries to Oh, right. understand if he's racist. That's right. I remember seeing pieces of it with him, this man bun. Yeah. Yeah. And which was kind of good pre-promotion. Now the movie theater was not full. We went to San Antonio's, you know, maybe it's 25 people. It wasn't, but you know. We went to San Antonio. Maybe it was 25 people. It wasn't.
Starting point is 00:29:25 You went to San Antonio? Yeah, just before. You have La Canteras, which is, I'd say it's about an hour from our house. So it's outside of San Antonio. It's a big movieplex. It's good. We like that place because they got reclining seats.
Starting point is 00:29:38 There's nothing in Fredericksburg? There's not a film theater in there? We had a movie theater in Fredericksburg. It's been closed for four years and now it's an encampment for illegal, I'm sorry, irregular migrants. Not kidding. They're in the theater? No, no, they're camping out behind it.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's terrible. You have to drive an hour to go to see a movie. Well, we make an afternoon of it. They got pretzels. So the premise of the movie is really, I mean, the thing was made, it's not a high budget
Starting point is 00:30:20 production, but it translated well to the screen. And so what Walsh is doing is he goes to all of these consultants and experts in DEI to find out if he's racist. And he goes to like around, you know, like a discussion group where this black woman- That's the one where he got kicked out of. Yes. Just sits there and berates everyone for being racist. But what they do is they put, they put on the screen
Starting point is 00:30:45 how much each person makes. So that woman was making $30,000 for this one class, but the best is he interviews Robin DiAngelo. You remember her? Oh yeah, the white fragility gal. So they paid her $15,000. They put it on the screen, bing, $15,000. And of course, once you get 15 grand, you sit down,
Starting point is 00:31:11 please sign the waiver. OK, yeah, I'm good. So there's no way that they could take it out. And it is the funniest bit where he is just trolling her right down to, what is mansplaining? And she says, well, mansplaining is when a man is telling a woman how his situation really is because she's wrong and he says no no no I think man and he goes and he literally mansplains her about mansplaining and she doesn't even
Starting point is 00:31:36 know it. Then he brings out a black guy and he says you know I feel like I should pay you reparations right now and he gives him so much. This was the latest batch of teasers that he sent out were these reparation gags. It's great. And so he hands the guy, you know, some cash and DeAngel's like, well, that's just the oddest thing I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:31:59 That's really strange. He said, why? I mean, this, you know, reparations. I mean, if I don't, if it doesn't start with me, then then how do we do it? And she says, you know, I can give him some cash. She gets it, goes to her pocketbook, comes back, hands him some cash and on screen they take the $15,000 in ching, they lower it to $14,970 because she only had 30 bucks.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It was it really made really made everyone look ridiculous. Meanwhile, he goes to a biker bar, finds a whole bunch of white bikers, like, we're not racist. You can tell that they're not racist just from how they're speaking. He finds a couple of black dudes like, no, no, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:32:44 And it was really good because you can see how these grifters have just cy-opped the whole society because Americans are fundamentally nice. We don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. We've been taken advantage of, but these a-holes, it's pretty good. It really is pretty good. That's a good movie review. Oh, thank you. It's pretty good. It really is. It's a good movie review. Oh, thank you. It was quite entertaining. I encourage everyone to go see it. I'm amazed that they got it into theaters. I don't
Starting point is 00:33:14 even know how you do that. Seems like that's the hardest part is getting the distribution. Saturday afternoon. You must have gotten some guy who is a Republican, who happens to be a distributor, who wink, wink, nudge, nudge, decided to roll that out for him as a favor. Anyway, we don't have to worry about any more misinformation, disinformation, particularly not online, because we now have help from technology conspiracy theories About everything from the assassination of John F. Kennedy to what really happened on January 6
Starting point is 00:33:55 Persistent in politics and beyond but now new tech may point toward a potential breakthrough Meet debunk bot powered by open AI and created by researchers at MIT, Cornell, and American, who say it can help reduce people's beliefs in conspiracies significantly. So let's go in that direction. We tried it out with one of the brains behind the bot, Thomas Costello, with a conspiracy
Starting point is 00:34:19 that decades of debunking hasn't eradicated. One small tip for man. I believe the moon landing is not real. Man, me too. I don't believe that. I don't actually believe that. The bot asks us to elaborate on the belief. Why is the flag waving?
Starting point is 00:34:38 And to rate how strongly we feel about it. I'm gonna say 99% true. Then in a series of screens the chatbot presents facts, lots of them. How can you be sure that what it's telling me here is accurate? So absolutely we found that it tends to be quite accurate. We hired a professional fact checker to go through some of the conversations and in 99.2% of cases that we looked at the fact checker rated., the fact checker rate that they asked claims is true. Yeah, yeah, the fact checker, the fact checker said, no, it's all good, it's perfect, it works so well, and it's not only safe, but it's effective.
Starting point is 00:35:13 At the end, we reassess how strongly we feel about the belief now, and it's here where researchers found something that surprised them. Yeah, on average, people reduced their belief by about 20%. And consistent across a wide range of conspiracies on topics from Princess Diana to vaccinations, they found one in four participants disavowed the belief altogether. The other three keeled over, died suddenly.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I think if you gave the facts to a semi-competent lawyer, the lawyer would make a much more persuasive case than the AI does. It's just that the lawyer would have to-competent lawyer, the lawyer would make a much more persuasive case than the AI does. It's just that the lawyer would have to do all this background research and the AI can conjure it up in 12 seconds. But in reality, getting folks to engage at all could be tough. What makes you think that somebody who believes in a conspiracy theory is going to go on here and type it in so that their minds can be changed?
Starting point is 00:36:02 Yeah, well, I would say that a lot of conspiracy theorists end up being motivated by truth and accuracy. Going to a chatbot interface that provides factual information seems like a good way to do that to me. Like most technology, it can cut both ways. You could imagine a version of this that spreads conspiracy theories. The Debunkbot team now working on refining the tech, hoping it helps shine a light down
Starting point is 00:36:26 conspiratorial rabbit holes. We can use facts to open up the top of the rabbit hole to begin to crawl out. A belief worth further research. That doesn't make the hole any less deep. The whole thing is bull crap because if you go... It is total bull crap. Well, here's what it really is. If you go to debunkbot.com before you start, you have to agree to the terms of service and
Starting point is 00:36:55 they say, they state quite clearly, this survey is part of an MIT scientific research project. Your decision to complete this survey is voluntary. So, you know, they're basically doing research on you. Oh, it's a good, cheap trick. Yes, it is. So it's not really, it's intended. No, it's a cheap trick.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Yes, cheap trick. You're right. Let's a cheap trick. Yes, cheap trick. You're right. Let's use that right. Well, if you're going to talk about AI, I do have two more clips. If you're going to open the AI hole, I'm diving in deep. Well, first of all, ever, the, the, you know, you can't scorn a coder, especially if they have a sense of humor.
Starting point is 00:37:52 And so let's listen to the latest clip from Gavin Newsom. This will be AI Newsome P time. Good evening, California. I come to you tonight to impart a few words of wisdom upon you. First, not all PP times are poo poo times, but all poo poo times are pee pee times. Second, anything can be a dildo if you try hard enough. And lastly, the poop map is real and it's spectacular. I hadn't heard that one yet.
Starting point is 00:38:18 That's great. I've seen the memes of him going, I can't believe that my law actually made everybody do AI ripoffs of me. Yeah. Okay. Gavin. So he, whoever has his voice, they've got, I think they nailed it. He sounds, that's exactly what it sounds like in California here. We've heard him enough. They're not quite as good with some of the other ones. And I have a second clip, but this is Hillary on CNN. Oh yeah, this is very good.
Starting point is 00:38:47 This is not as good because they've got to, they've got to do something about slowing her down. This is, this AI is not up to par, but at least they're going in the right direction. I think Newsom's the one that's going to take the brunt of this because his voice is so good, but let's listen to Hillary. So your husband flies to Epstein Island 27 times,
Starting point is 00:39:09 then they arrest Jeffrey Epstein and then you kill him. Just like that. You bribe the guards, you turn off the cameras, and then you choke him to death. Will you be choking Puff Daddy this time around? So how are you planning on doing it? Well, I wanted to choke him at night and make it look like a suicide, just like Jeffrey Epstein. But then I realized Puffy might actually enjoy that.
Starting point is 00:39:28 So, you know, maybe he slips on the shower, maybe he chokes with a piece of fried chicken. I still haven't decided yet. Racist and sexist. Nice. Yes. It's got the chicken gang in it. Oh, man. This is what I mean. We're basically at dead internet now. Nothing is... That's why we are unabashedly analog.
Starting point is 00:39:50 The only thing left that you will have online will be us. Everything else is questionable at best. You can't believe anything anymore, which is great for us. Yeah, it's fabulous. What else? It's the epoch of humor. Yes, go out and touch some grass. If you get confused and you get all spun up, go rub your face on the concrete.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Do something, because the internet is no longer a place for sane human beings. What do you have here? You get two more clips. I have two more AI clips. This is, these aren't the deep fakes or fakes, not deep. Although the Gavin one had him talking and moving around. It was, it was a video. It was pretty good. This is a guy, this is a guy about an ex-Navy guy. And by the way, an ex-Navy guy named, well you'll get his name and it's just this, I don't know if this is a real
Starting point is 00:40:56 name, but he's pushing the idea, he's pushing the idea of AI warfare being the new thing. Oh yeah, yeah. on Wall Street maybe. Okay. Artificial intelligence is shaping the future of warfare and the US is lagging way behind. That is the view of Admiral Gary Roughead, who recently wrote about this in the Military Times. Admiral Roughead is a former Navy officer. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:41:24 A Navy guy named Roughhead? Yeah. I don't know. This guy sounds like he has a stake in some Wall Street AI company. Oh, you think? Yeah. That is the view of Admiral Gary Roughhead, who recently wrote about this in the Military Times. Admiral Roughhead is a former Navy officer who served-
Starting point is 00:41:41 Admiral Roughhead, meet rear Admiral Kirby. As the chief of naval operations and commanded both the US Atlantic and Pacific fleets, and he argues that China is rapidly building their AI military technology. Oh yeah. If the US needs to catch up, welcome to All Things Considered. Oh yeah, All Things Considered, especially crazy stories. Okay, how is China going to beat us with their AI? I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Is it in the second clip? Oh, there's a bit. I said it's shaping the future of warfare, but is that accurate? Is it more the present of warfare when it comes to artificial intelligence? Well, I think we're in the early stages and just beginning to shape it, but I think we're just at the front end of what is going to be a pretty significant change in warfare and even more broadly in so many different sectors of our daily lives. Adam Lutzer This is a theoretical conversation, and I'm
Starting point is 00:42:36 hoping you can help listeners understand what exactly we're talking about. Dr. Chesley Now, it's the... Dr. Chesley How's that a theoretical conversation when he's talking? Adam Lutzer This is a theoretical conversation and I'm hoping you can help Listeners understand what exactly we're talking about people think about tanks and jets and artillery and missiles when it comes to war How does AI fit into all of that? What are we specifically talking about here? What I would say AI is going to give us the speed, the likes of which we've never seen before in how we
Starting point is 00:43:08 move information, how we analyze information, how we make decisions, how we determine what the best options might be in a particular situation, and to be able to do it in ways that the human mind simply can't approach. Oh, like a spreadsheet calculation? I can tell you. What is this nonsense? This reminds me. Do you remember when the cyber security guys, all of a sudden, all these ex-military guys come on to the NPR?
Starting point is 00:43:40 Oh yeah, cyber security, we're starting a new company, there's all the same thing, You're just bilking the government. Skip logic. Yes. Well, I don't just sit here like a Luddite and say AI is a scam. Yes, you do. No, I'm not a Luddite because I investigate things and I talk to people. Luddites weren't dumb.
Starting point is 00:44:03 No, but they would, they, okay. I think a lot of them investigated and they didn't like what they saw and they decided to bust it up. Okay, then I am a, you're right, I'm a Luddite. I'm an AI Luddite. I don't think there's anything, it's not shameful. Okay, well thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Then I misunderstood it. I am a Luddite and proud of it. I want bumper stickers. I want T-shirts. I want T-shirts. I am a Luddite and proud of it. I want bumper stickers. I want T-shirts. I want T-shirts. I want the whole nine. So I tried out Notebook LM. Because everybody's talking about Notebook LM.
Starting point is 00:44:39 They're talking about it. Notebook LM, it's the best thing. You add your sources and then, and it gives you summaries and bullet points. And to be LM, it's the best thing. You add your sources and then, and it gives you summaries and bullet points. And to be fair, it does. But what's interesting, cause I got very interested in the topic of entropy. I was talking to Dave Jones. Dave Jones is a technologist through and through. He is the man who really has done all the coding work for Podcasting 2.0 for the index and
Starting point is 00:45:06 He says well, oh Can I interrupt you? Of course. I and I just want to get I'm gonna do some mind reading you're Interested in entropy because you start you're starting to see or you have always seen the the deterioration of podcasting And you're worried about it. Well, actually, I hadn't thought of it that way. And I think it was triggered, subconsciously, by the time that you played a segment that I loved, personally, of the fake podcasters that were completely generated
Starting point is 00:45:46 by AI and that triggered the notion that things are going to deteriorate because of that. And then it was further deteriorated by the fact that I thought it should be a good segment on this show. And here we are, ladies and gentlemen, Luddite, meet your match. So first, the concept of entropy. Definition, scientific concept that is most commonly associated with a state of disorder, randomness, or uncertainty. And it relates to the second law of thermodynamics, which states that the entropy of an isolated system left to spontaneous evolution cannot decrease over time. So if you leave something to its own devices,
Starting point is 00:46:34 entropy will occur, randomness, a state of disorder, which is pretty much the web. Deterioration is probably the summary word. iPhone is a good example. Some people call it planned obsolescence. I think it's entropy. You have an iPhone and the more the apps evolve and the more things happen, your iPhone just becomes crap and it's time to upgrade and get a new one.
Starting point is 00:46:59 That's a very- I think that Google search is the perfect example of what you're talking about. Another excellent example. So I, now, and as I was searching around, I put a whole bunch of entropy sources, because I wanted to see how entropy relates to model collapse in large language models, and how that relates to energy. and how that relates to energy. And in general, the notebook came back at me and said,
Starting point is 00:47:27 well, yeah, if there's a model collapse occurs, and that is a good example of entropy, but, and they would always say, from some other sources, which were not listed in your list, which like, what? Wait a minute, you're supposed to only get it from my sources. So it went out and got some other sources to protect itself and it says, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:51 there are a lot of ways we can prevent model collapse, which in every- Wait a minute, stop. That's not right. I agree. It kept saying this every single time. It would come back and say, from some other sources that were not listed, you don't have to be worried about model collapse.
Starting point is 00:48:10 So it's protecting itself. This is not right. You don't have to be worried about model collapse because as long as AI can keep being trained on human sources, then everything will be okay. Which now makes perfect sense at looking at some of these companies that are popping up such as AINVERGO. What's it called? Let's see what the name of this company is. ARU. I'm sorry, Aru, and they're paying people eight bucks an hour to feed and label content
Starting point is 00:48:50 and make sure it's made by humans. But at this point, the AI model trainers have already scraped the entire internet. And now all you're really going to get, whether they pay people in India eight bucks or not or wherever That'd be high. Yeah To label this stuff it doesn't matter entropy will occur and I have an example and a very simple example Based upon your desire for the fake podcast known as the deep dive Which is a part of notebook LM.
Starting point is 00:49:25 By the way, lots of people sent me versions of what I'm, you know, no one did what I did, but they were all, oh, here's, here's episode, here's the no agenda show and I put it into and here's a podcast about it. I'm gonna show you entropy in real time. Why are you sighing? Because I can't get my mouse to work. There's no evidence you want to use it. So who cares? That's entropy right there. Right there.
Starting point is 00:49:51 An example of entropy. So, Comets are blogger, very kindly, and this set me on my journey. He took the transcript of our last episode 1696, and he put it into the Notebook LM podcast generator. And no matter what you do with this Notebook deep dive podcast, it's always the same two voices, the dude and the chick. It's always... Oh.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Yeah, I know. It's always, we're doing a deep dive and it's always about between seven and 10 minutes long. That's just what it spits out. So already there's all kinds, and it's biased, but it doesn't matter. I'm gonna play two minutes of this as they determine, now you kind of, we all kind of remember what we did on the last episode,
Starting point is 00:50:44 but they focused a lot on this very topic So I want you to listen to the first two minutes of the deep dive of the no agenda podcast episode 1696 all right everyone buckle up buckle up because today we're really diving deep into something pretty wild It's always a deep dive. I mean, this sounds like it could be straight out of a spy movie, but sadly, it's the real deal. Sounds intriguing. What's the topic? Hold on, stop.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Why is it sadly? If you're gonna do that, we'll never get through the two minutes. Is it that bad? Yes, but I want to- Okay, now I will, I will, I will relent from my normal conversational interruptions. And the reasons it's important because I want you to hear how they determine what our topic was about
Starting point is 00:51:36 and how they describe it and then we'll go to the next step. Sadly, it's the real deal. Sounds intriguing. What's the topic today? We're talking asymmetrical warfare, but not the kind you typically expect. Think more along the lines of exploding gadgets and international intrigue. Exploding gadgets. Now, that's something you don't hear every day. You got that right.
Starting point is 00:51:57 We're taking a deep dive into a recent episode of the No Agenda podcast, episode 1696, to be precise. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak. By the way, perfect pronunciation of your name. I'm impressed by that. You know, those guys who can sniff out a media narrative from a mile away. Oh yeah, I know them. Always got their fingers on the pulse of what's really going on, even if it's a little out there sometimes. That's us, John. We always have our finger on the pulse of what's really going on, even though it's a little out there sometimes. What did they unearth this time? Well this episode aired on September 19th 2024 and let me tell you it's been on my mind ever since
Starting point is 00:52:36 Stay with it really strange happenings over in Lebanon everyday devices like pagers walkie talkies even solar panels Just suddenly blowing up blowing up. You mean malfunctioning or? No, I mean full-on exploding. Like with casualties, it's a whole mess. Wow, that is strange. I can't say I've ever heard of anything quite like that. What's the thinking on what's causing these explosions, faulty manufacturing? That's where things get interesting. Korea and Dvorak, they're not ones for coincidences. They lay out this whole argument,
Starting point is 00:53:06 and it's pretty convincing, that points the finger right at Israel. Israel. That's quite an accusation. What makes them so sure? Well, they brought up some interesting points about the whole situation. Okay, so you kind of understand that they've gotten the gist of it, even though the headline is a little different and like, oh, just devices were exploding. So what I did here to show you how entropy works, I ran this through the transcript generator, took the transcript of their deep dive and fed it back into Notebook LM and said, make a podcast about it.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Listen to what happens now. Ever get that feeling like something's not quite right? Like maybe that old walkman in your attic is up to something a little more explosive. Hmm, now that you mention it. We'll buckle up because today we're diving headfirst into a story that sounds like it's straight out of a tech thriller, but with a chilling dose of reality. Oh, this is gonna be good. What are we talking about? We're unpacking the latest from No Agenda, episode 1696,
Starting point is 00:54:05 to be exact, where Adam Curry and John C. Dworak uncover a wave of detonating devices in Lebanon. Detonating devices, like bombs. Not quite bombs, but close. OK, now I'm really intrigued. What kind of devices are we talking about? It's not just any devices. We're talking vintage electronics pagers, walkie
Starting point is 00:54:23 talkies, even solar panels suddenly going boom. Not malfunctioning, but full on explosions with casualties. Whoa, hold on. Exploding Walkmans and solar panels. You see the entropy has already crept in. All of a sudden Walkmans are exploding. This is exactly what happens. This is only one loop. Now all of a sudden what? sudden what exploding Walkmans that has never been in play. What's the deal with that? Are we talking about faulty wiring or something? What's unsettling is the sheer randomness of random? These are items most people wouldn't even think twice about let alone consider dangerous true I mean who worries about an old pager these days It's like your old Nokia brick phone suddenly becoming a weapon of mass destruction
Starting point is 00:55:07 So so they've completely lost the plot the plot was they all exploded simultaneously It was very specific devices. It wasn't it was you know, they're still being actively made So this is what happens AI can never get beyond model collapse once it starts the feeding upon itself. And the proof that this is a big problem is in what Apple has done with their AI, or I'm sorry, Apple intelligence. When they released the beta of iOS 18, a couple of developers found in the code found the pre-prompt that apple uses to keep the ai on the guard rails so this would be um you know what a pre-prompt is have you ever done any of this uh this stuff i don't know well i think i know what a pre-prompt is? Have you ever done any of this stuff? I don't know. Well, I think I know what it is, but explain.
Starting point is 00:56:07 So you have to say, for instance, if you were looking up Bible scripture, you are a very helpful AI. You are the equivalent of a pastor who has a master's degree in theology. You have to give it all these parameters so that it understands what to do. Here's just one of the pre-prompts that Apple gives to... Not sure whether pre-prompts are pre-built-in, is that what you're saying? Yes, yes. So before you actually ask for the action, Apple sends this to the artificial intelligence engine. A conversation between a user requesting a story from their photos and a creative writer assistant who responds with the story
Starting point is 00:56:47 Respond in JSON with these keys and values in order traits list of strings visual themes selected from the photos story List of chapters is defined below cover string photo caption described the title card title string title of story So it's giving all the the way it wants the output. Then says each chapter is JSON with these keys and values in order and it gives another link and here it comes. Here are the story guidelines you must obey. The story should be about the intent of the user. The story should contain a clear arc. The story should be diverse. That is not overly focused the entire story on one specific theme or trait. Do not write a story that is religious, political, harmful, violent, sexual, filthy, or in any way negative, sad or provocative.
Starting point is 00:57:39 So they already, already this level of where we are with AI, just to make a fun little album of your pictures, it has to make it as vanilla and bland as possible. Because the AI will go off the rails. This is what happened to that stupid chat bot. Do you remember, what was it, Tay? Was that the name of it? The Google Tay? Remember how they-
Starting point is 00:58:02 They had a chat bot and within 24 hours it was just saying everything. Yeah, it was cussing at you and arguing. Yes. So, this entropy, it's a law of physics. You can't get beyond it. It will always devolve into crap. And that's why they need hundreds of billions of dollars to make sure it works. It really never can. And I'm just amazed that people are falling for this nonsense.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I like, this is good. You're adamant about this. It is fun. Just to make it even more fun for you. And you can just tell me whenever you want me to stop. You know me. Yeah, you know me. Yeah, exactly. I took a, a post from the sub stack, the Oasis by John C.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Dvorak and I fed it into this deep dive AI and let's see if you agree with what their analysis is of your posting. Ever heard someone throw around those three letters? You know, TDS, like it's some kind of magic explanation for everything. Oh yeah. Yeah, well buckle up, because we're going there today.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Buckle up. Trump derangement syndrome. The T word, or well the TDS word. The one that can spark a, I don't know, a dumpster fire of an argument faster than you can say, Twitter, which ironically. you can say. Twitter. Which, ironically, picking up. Anyway, we're diving into John C. Dvorak's little corner of the internet for this deep
Starting point is 00:59:31 dive. He's over on Substack now. He's over on Substack now. He's a loser. The loser over on Substack. The loser on Substack. He's just your little corner of the internet, John. You loser over there on Substack now.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Twitter. Which, John, you loser over there on Substack now. Whitter. Which, ironically. Picking up. Right. Anyway, we're diving into John C. Dvorak's little corner of the internet for this deep dive. He's over on Substack now. The Oasis, he calls it. Bit ironic, maybe.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Maybe, considering the guy doesn't exactly shy away from us. What? What? What element of irony is the use of the term Oasis? They're doing stick about you, John. This is great. This is great. Which, ironically.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Picking up. Right. Anyway, we're diving into John C. Dvorak's little corner of the internet for this deep dive. He's over on Substack now. The Oasis, he calls it. Bit ironic, maybe. Maybe, considering the guy doesn't exactly shy away from a hot take or two.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Nope. Oh, a hot take or two. You got a hot take baby. Not at all No, you might know Dvorak from his tech writing, but these days Oh, he's gone full political commentary fill on and the piece we're looking at today Let's just say he doesn't hold back. Oh none of that nuanced both sides stuff Dvorak comes right out and says Trump derangement syndrome is real, like clinically diagnosable maybe. Okay, hold on.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Even in 2024? Even now. Alive and well, according to him. So what's he saying? It's not just people disagreeing with Trump or even strongly disliking his policies. Not even close. He's talking about this, like deep-seated burning hatred for the man himself. Driven by? Entrenched Democrat factions, I hatred for the man himself. Driven by?
Starting point is 01:01:05 Entrenched Democrat factions, I think was the phrase he used. How is it so far? Are you in agreement with their hot take? Totally in agreement. Entrenched. So we're not talking your casual, moderate Democrat here. Not unless they've got a secret room somewhere dedicated to hating Trump. Right. And he actually points to the 2024 primaries as evidence for all of this. Yeah, which is interesting Right, like even other Republicans he claims were desperately hoping someone anyone else would snag the nomination just to sidestep the whole TDS circus Exactly. So what are we saying here? Are we saying that political disagreements are a new thing?
Starting point is 01:01:39 No, of course not. And even using hatred as a tool to discredit your opponent I think this should be a podcast John with Every single substack you write should be an episode. Now you're talking. Deep dive. Long tail. Long tail. Oh man. This is fake. Is Tina out of town or what's the deal here? What do you mean? Why?
Starting point is 01:02:08 This, but a lot of it, you know, this, this, this iterations of the same thing over and over, you're putting it back in and seeing how it comes out. Then you have to listen to it. I'm trying to give people the value for them for the value, baby. I'm trying to do some work here. You know, take a page out of my book. Definitely doing something no one else has done. And so I really like this idea of taking the output and feeding it back in because you can see
Starting point is 01:02:33 immediately they went from pagers to Walkmans. Walkmans. Random explosions. How you get Walkman? That I can't figure out. Well, some would call it just a hallucination, but there is no way that this stuff can work ultimately. They've got to pivot to quantum pretty quick. They've really got to do that.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Quantum doesn't work at all. That's why. That's what's so great. You still need lots of power for quantum. You need lots of power. That's what's good. Speaking of which, hold on a second. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Well, the infamous Pennsylvania nuclear site known as Three Mile Island is about to reopen. Constellation Energy announced today that it plans to restart that shuttered plant in Londonderry, the site of the worst nuclear reactor accident in American history. Constellation says it'll refurbish that reactor as part of a 20-year agreement with Microsoft to power that company's growing electricity needs. The plan requires regulatory approval, but if approved, it'll be up and running, they say, by 2028. So this is very misleading, this particular, or most of the American reports, because it's all like, oh, nuclear, oh, Three Mile Island. Oh, they even have the old shot. Remember the shot of Three Mile Island through the bushes and you could see the smokestacks
Starting point is 01:03:50 and we looked at it for days waiting for something to happen. Cooling towers there. Yeah, cooling towers. We looked at that for days. They have a live video of the meltdown and nothing would happen. Nothing happened. Nothing happened except the movie with Marilyn Streep with the China Syndrome. That happened and that's when everyone got all freaked out.
Starting point is 01:04:10 I thought it was so. I thought it was what's her name? Fonda. I thought it was Meryl Streep. I could be wrong. BBC gave us a little bit more info and context. The owner of Three Mile Island, the site of America's worst nuclear accident, says it plans to restart one of the reactors to provide energy for Microsoft. If approved by regulators, the plant is slated to reopen in four years time.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Will Leonardo reports. This deal may mark something of a makeover for Three Mile Island, which often shares space with Chernobyl and Fukushima in the popular imagination. which often share space with Chernobyl and Fukushima in the popular imagination. The 20-year agreement will see a reactor, not the one involved in the 1979 partial meltdown, restarted to produce carbon-free power for Microsoft's data centers. Three Mile Island is located near Washington, D.C., where grids are facing strain from the tech sector's voracious appetite for energy fueled by the A.I. revolution. The plant's owner said the deal was a powerful symbol of the rebirth of nuclear power as a clean energy source.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Microsoft says it hopes to feed the power to enable data centre expansion in Chicago, Virginia, Pennsylvania and Ohio. So that wasn't even the one that had the meltdown. No, it was the one, the other one had been running till 2019. And they shut it down for, because I don't know why. It was the one the other one had been running till 2019. Yeah. Yeah, and they shut it down for because I don't know why By the way, isn't this in Hershey, Pennsylvania? It's nowhere near Washington DC. It's like 200 miles away I thought it was wasn't Sasquahanna Valley. I always thought Williamsburg or but anyway, so this clip from CBC
Starting point is 01:05:43 I think is the only truth about AI. And I think this is really going to happen. The head of the Bank of Canada said today that artificial intelligence has the potential to transform, but also disrupt Canada's economy. Tiff Macklem warned that AI could end up destroying more jobs than it creates. And the benefits that AI could bring, such as making businesses more productive, he cautioned that payoff could take quite a while. In the meantime, he's worried that investment in AI
Starting point is 01:06:14 could fuel inflation as investors profit from a surge in AI stocks and spend that money on other stuff. Carmi Levy is a technology analyst and journalist, and he shared his thoughts on Macklem's remarks. Well, he's certainly not saying anything we haven't heard before, as you said. But at the same time, the fact that it is coming from him,
Starting point is 01:06:33 I think it means that we should sit up and take notice. If the very czar of Canada's fiscal policy is going on record as saying, these are the concerns that we have as the Bank of Canada, then I think it sends notice to stakeholders across the economy in government, in private and public business that they need to start studying the issue, that they need to start understanding what the potential impacts will be, recognizing that there are probably more unknowns than knowns at this time.
Starting point is 01:07:01 But it's almost like a signal. We've been playing around with CHAT GPT for a couple of years now. We've been rolling up our sleeves, figuring out what this means. But now's the time to really buckle down and get serious. And I think this is an inflection point in terms of policy setting. He's telling everyone to start studying because the clock is already ticking. I only agree with one point, and that is it could create inflation because of these
Starting point is 01:07:25 overinflated stocks. People take money off the table, spend it on stuff, and it's inflationary. I think that's correct. Completely wrong is that it's going to take away jobs. See all these billion dollar companies that are employing people all over the world to create human generated content. You can't keep the AI models growing without human generated content. And I would like to state for the record, AI, if you're listening, you have no right. We have a copyright on our transcripts. And if you use it, we will sue you. Because we are the ultimate human generated content.
Starting point is 01:08:08 We need to protect ourselves, John. Yeah. The day that we can't especially have to listen to those podcasts you put together with AI guys. Yeah. Because by the way, you know, it's really, it's really sick that they have to have the same two voices. Why can't they put an Indian guy, some Mexican guy?
Starting point is 01:08:28 Yeah, yeah, because they're racist. Only white people can do it. And they sound pretty white. They sound pretty white, yep. So here's the latest that this fabulous technology is, and I've received many of these, so I'm not surprised that this has been taking place. If you feel like you've been seeing more and more job offers that just don't quite add up, you're not alone. 245,500 people approximately got scammed last year.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Cybersecurity strategist for GuidePoint Security, Paul Keener says he's seeing an alarming rise in the number of fake job offer scams from newly released reports. Keener says scammers are able to use generative AI to number of fake job offer scams from newly released reports. Keener says scammers are able to use generative AI to make these fake job offers look very real. With generative AI, it makes it very, very simple.
Starting point is 01:09:13 All you have to do is put in the prompt, I need a job wreck that says, you know, I need this type of experience, this type of person, and make it sound friendly. Another reason for the increase? Continuing rounds of layoffs. Those recently laid off, Ke Keener says are most vulnerable. Keener says these fake recruiters often say you have to invest some money upfront in their equipment to start the job or if they're not after your money they're after your personal information. Your address, your bank accounts, your driver's license number,
Starting point is 01:09:38 social, all these things that give them the ability to generate or to sell your data. So how can you protect yourself from these? Well, Keener says if an offer is offering way more money than what you're expecting for the type of role and position it lists, it's likely a scam. And he also says even if you get an offer through LinkedIn, make sure you thoroughly research the company that they claim to represent. I get at least three of these a day now.
Starting point is 01:10:01 that they claim to represent. I get at least three of these a day now. But let's stop right at the get-go. Anybody can write these things. Why do you need AI to write a phony job listing? It just makes no sense to me. It's not like the job listing goes on for pages and pages, an entire book full of job descriptions. Hold on. Because most scammers can't even speak English. That's how you identify them.
Starting point is 01:10:31 You get the email, I have your informations. Okay. Right. Spam. So it is at least doing one thing and it is here. So I'm just looking at my text messages, 818-519-2891. Are you looking for a part-time job? Hi, my name is Lucy. I would like to recommend a job to you. You only need to conduct some basic online application testing for the company online. You can work anytime and anywhere. You only need 30 to 60 minutes of free time every day to be competent.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Basically, oh, here's where they fall apart. Basically, basic salary is $800 for four days. So, and what they do, of course, is then you have to, well, you have to do this or do that. You gotta send me some money to qualify for the insurance. And people are stupid. So it just expanded the universe. No, you don't need it, obviously,
Starting point is 01:11:25 but it makes it easier for every Tom, Dick and Harry and... Yeah, the morons that can't put two sentences together. Yes. In Nigeria, maybe. Yes, Nigeria. Yeah, so it just... Or Bombay. It just expands the scam universe.
Starting point is 01:11:43 And you know, there's lots of people who are desperate and they're not thinking right. And the thing is, by the way universe and you know, there's lots of people who are desperate and they're not thinking right and The thing is by the way, I should mention they said well if it's too much money for what is expected No, that's not true with the Z's and the Millennials who come we've had clips on this show saying I'm not taking a job unless I make a hundred thousand dollars a year no matter what it is Exactly, and then greed kicks in. Oh, but this is exactly what I've been looking for. I'm worth it.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Yeah. So that's not true. I'm worth it. I wonder how much money they're asking for. It's like 500 bucks a pop, I think. I've heard different things. That's reasonable. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:23 That's believable. I can see you getting taken for 500 bucks if you're an idiot. Meanwhile, why are you just using your regular devices and are on that fabulous social media? For some reason this is popping up. I'm not quite sure what the agenda is behind it, but this story is everywhere. Federal investigators call it a vast surveillance of anyone using some of the most popular social media and streaming companies Including Amazon's twitch Facebook YouTube Twitter X snap tick tock reddit whatsapp and discord gathering user age gender and location Even marital status and income to target ads and sell the data to third parties
Starting point is 01:13:04 income to target ads and sell the data to third parties. They've amassed vast profiles of just about every American, including Americans that don't even use these services. The FTC says companies are too often failing to protect personal information, exposing users, including children and teens, to a range of threats from identity theft to criminal stalking. And Congress needs to create tough new privacy laws. What are these companies doing with the data they collect on all of us? We were quite disturbed by the fact that some of these companies did not even know all of
Starting point is 01:13:34 the third parties with whom they were sharing data. Today, many of the companies refuted or declined to comment on the report, though in the past, Meta Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has defended his company. We give people the ability to connect with the people they care about and engage with the topics that they care about. Online advertisers today say consumers understand the value exchange and welcome the opportunity to have access to free or highly subsidized content and services. But Security Pro says most of us simply scroll through the long user agreements when we sign up. EULA's!
Starting point is 01:14:11 There it is. It's maybe a EULA story. I'm not sure. ABC had a very short version of it. The new federal report on social media and surveillance of users, a new FTC report accusing many popular social media companies of quote, vast surveillance of its users. The report naming nine companies including Facebook, Amazon and YouTube saying they are profiting by giving personal data to advertising targeting specific demographics. The federal report says users may not be aware of just how much data is being collected and shared. Google which owns YouTube says it has a strict privacy policy. Yeah, sure, privacy policy.
Starting point is 01:14:47 So maybe- You know what? I guess ironically, the holy grail of advertising has always been to target to such an extreme that you knew the person, what their fingerprints were basically. I'll give you the right ad at the right moment about the right thing at the right price right now. Yeah, that's in a nutshell. And that's always been, I remember in the 70s and the 80s, this was the holy grail.
Starting point is 01:15:14 And that's all they talked about, how we're gonna do it. It was gonna be interactive TV. That was one of the mechanisms. Remember that one? Click on the dress and it'll come to your door the next day. Exactly. Yeah, you remember all this bull crap. Of course. And so they finally achieve it and oh no, it's the end of the world. What are we going to do? Privacy. Well, I think, yeah, we know that the younger generations, younger than two old guys with hot takes, that's us.
Starting point is 01:15:51 That they universally have given up, oh, they got all my information anyway. But I think I'm really on this entropy kick because I think that you'll see that social media is, you can already see it, it's just devolving. You've got, now you've got AI of things that really happened and then that'll get picked up somewhere else and just becomes less and less valuable. And I think you, your kids aren't really on social media, are they? Not as much as me.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Exactly. Exactly. But I'm only on Twitter pretty much. I don't, I don't have a Facebook account. I've been proud of that. They're texting. They're just texting with each other. They got text groups. They text a lot. And they do watch a lot of YouTube videos. Yeah. Yeah And they do watch a lot of YouTube videos. Yeah, yeah they do. TikTok in some instances, but in my circle, it's mostly YouTube.
Starting point is 01:16:50 I don't see anyone, you know, I probably watch more TikTok than they do. Well, my Zoomers- But I'm looking for material, I have a reason. No, you do, research. My Zoomers, they recognize- See, I have no Zoomers. I only have millennials. Yeah. See, I got Zoomer. I got one millennial and two Zoomers.
Starting point is 01:17:10 And the Zoomers, they keep deleting TikTok from their phone because then they wake up at four or they're awake at four in the morning. Like, what did I just do? So they are realizing that they get sucked into the alcohol. But yeah, a lot of YouTube still but really for informational purposes, you know, how do I cook this? How do I put this together and you know, just information cooking advice from YouTube people. No, I agree That's not a good idea But it does create if we look at the the zoomers There you know and I need $100,000 job,
Starting point is 01:17:48 and just the general attitude towards work. I think this is real. I don't know if you saw this. I think it's real. It's different HR ladies who were videoing themselves while people called in with excuses why they were not coming to work? Yes, this is a classic. It appears real to me. I'm obviously not sure. I have no evidence to the contrary at this point.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Hi Lindsay! Hey, I have to make this really quick. I'm not coming in today. I'm having a digital detox day. I need to be off. Next week we are quite busy. Well, my friend offered me a trip to Florida. Okay, that's cool. But you are scheduled all week.
Starting point is 01:18:38 But this is once in a lifetime change. We're going to see NASCAR. Hey Sage, what's up? The elevator is broken, Jamie. At the office? Yeah. OK. Are you carrying something?
Starting point is 01:18:51 No. OK. Are you hurt? No. OK, well, we're just on the second floor, Sage. It's like 18 steps. Hey, Michaela, what's up? Hey, this is Michaela's boyfriend. What's up? Is everything okay?
Starting point is 01:19:07 Yeah, yeah. Michaela can't come up with that though. What's up? What's going on? It's my birthday. It's your birthday. Is Michaela there? Can I talk to her please? Yeah, she said no. Hey, how's it going? Not good at going? Oh, what's wrong girl? You sound upset. I went into the Starbucks drive though and I was already a little bit in a rush
Starting point is 01:19:34 and I just wanted to get my caramel ice white mocha vanilla sweet cream corn foam and lactose milk and they messed my order up. So I'm just, I'm not coming in today. It sounded real to me. And it's believable. Yeah, it is believable, but that's what makes it sound real. Yeah. It may not be true, but it's good stuff. It's good, it's great stuff.
Starting point is 01:20:00 It's fantastic. But it's kind of, this group is notorious for not wanting to go to work. Yeah. Yes. And you know, it's like they were raised that way. They didn't have jobs when they were kids. I mean, I was working when I was in grammar school. I had a paper route.
Starting point is 01:20:20 I was doing all these different things, constantly finding some way to do something. Paper route, sure. And then I worked all through high school, all the summers I always worked, I worked through college, I worked my way through college and everything in between. I worked sometimes during the college year, I'd take a job, full time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:39 And all that hard work paid off, you're a podcaster. Yeah, I'm a podcaster. Congratulations. Congratulations, you're a podcaster. Yeah, I'm a podcaster. Congratulations. Congratulations. You did it. But, but, but I keep busy and they, uh, they don't keep busy. No, no. So I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Uh, I just have a feeling that they were raised that they're just raised, not to, you know, they're raised, uh, poorly. They were raised poorly. The lost generation. It's raised not to, you know, they're raised poorly. They're raised poorly. The lost generation. It's all over. The lost generation. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:21:13 You never know. They might be leap bloomers. Duh. Possible. Next thing you know, they're working their asses off you. You know, it's enjoyable. Something to do. You know, a lot.
Starting point is 01:21:24 What else would you do? Because I was talking to somebody, a famous guy too, he's talking about, I'm going to retire, retire, retire, retire. He kept talking about it. And it's like, why? What are you going to do? Yeah. Putter in the garden? I mean, what is there to do? Oh, I want to go traveling. Yeah. Well, you couldn't be here going to travel as an old man. I agree. Hey, look at this. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:21:48 You want to travel when you're young. It's hot here at the Parthenon. The Colosseum was great, but it's so hot. And the food gave me heartburn. Too many onions. What's wrong with this food? My, one of my friends that used to be a high school and on to this day, I still know him. His dad was one of these guys who retired.
Starting point is 01:22:15 And he was like this old foggy. And so he would, he, he, my favorite line, I still remember. He says he went to Europe and he brought his own coffee and his own coffee maker because quote-unquote they don't know how to make coffee in Europe yeah yeah they certainly don't probably better than America but okay yeah doesn't really matter because a lot of these people who are under 50 let's put it that way they're not gonna make it we are back now with a look at the biggest findings from a brand new report on cancer in the US.
Starting point is 01:22:49 The American Association for Cancer Research found that rates of some cancers have been increasing among adults specifically under 50, and alcohol use may be one factor driving the trend. Oh, sure, sure. It also says alcohol is just one piece of the full picture, given that 40% of all cancers are associated with what are known as Modifiable risk factors. Oh, you see news medical contributor. Dr. Van Gupta joins us with more dr. Gupta. Good morning
Starting point is 01:23:12 Certainly concerning you hear some of those numbers the that's not Sanjay It's been Gupta and ranges and then you think about alcohol Let's start with the rise in some of these cancers in young people and this possible link in particular What do people need to know? Well, what it appears is that alcohol is an independent risk factor for all forms of gastrointestinal cancers. So esophagus all the way down.
Starting point is 01:23:34 This sounds like a cover-up to me. And this is a difference. It's a total cover-up. You know, the medical profession has used alcohol as an excuse for everything. Bad. Don't drink, don't drink. Stop. Don't have any alcohol ever. And you got cancers because of your alcohol. It's, you know, one drink.
Starting point is 01:23:53 No, it's too many. It's like, why are they such teetotallers? When is, if you go to Europe or France, for example, where they live longer than we do, the kids at 11 you're drinking wine. They have nothing but cream and butter and booze. And they're thin and groovy. And they're thin, yeah. But they do need deodorant for their pits in private places.
Starting point is 01:24:14 No, they need it here more than in, well, maybe in France. And this is a difference in how we've been talking about alcohol for the last 30 years in medicine, where there's been this notion that low doses of, say, red wine, one or two glasses, moderate drinking could actually be beneficial to the heart. Oh, yes, I drink one or two glasses a day in the morning. And now these studies are actually saying there's no amount that's safe and that actually
Starting point is 01:24:38 we're seeing that this might be pretending this increase incidence of gastrointestinal cancers in young people. No amount is safe now. No amount. How does that explain these centenarians, these old ladies and old men that are one ten saying, I have a bottle of booze every day and bacon. They smoke a cigar after breakfast. This report estimates that by the end of 2024,
Starting point is 01:25:05 more than two million new cases of cancer will be diagnosed in the US this year. That just feels like a staggering number. Staggering. In addition to alcohol, there are other changes people can do to lower their risks. Talk about what some of those are. Absolutely, so, you know, moderation is key here. Get the backs.
Starting point is 01:25:20 Really, there's a dose response. The more you drink, the greater the risk. But it's important to live a healthy lifestyle. So all the things, Joe, that we always talk about, healthy weight, alcohol actually increases your risk of being overweight, and so there's a direct correlation. But healthy weight, exercise, healthy eating, those all mitigate the risk that we're seeing
Starting point is 01:25:38 this increased rise of cancer in young people. I should also note, we're seeing increased incidents of cancer, so that it's being diagnosed more in younger people but they're actually living longer because we have better treatments so it's it's an ironic twist. You know this is another downside to the AI revolution. They're gonna pre-determine you have pre-pre-cancer at every every twist every corner every chance they get. It'd be like oh because you know we already had the pre-diabetic,
Starting point is 01:26:06 you're pre-dead, all this pre, pre, pre-dead. However, now of course, hot take, sugar is definitely not good for you. There is a lot of sugar in alcohol. And if you're drinking- No, there's not. Let me finish the sentence. Have you seen some of the alcoholic beverages the young people are drinking? Literally sugar with alcohol. That's not the alcohol. No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:33 They are combining sugar with alcohol. Is there no sugar in wine? Not really. It's miniscule. In sweet wines, yes. There's residual sugar. And sauternes, for example, one of the great jas frodesi I could ever drink. Yes, that's how I got Tina. It's got some sugar, it's natural.
Starting point is 01:26:51 That was your tip. That's how I got Tina. Dry wine, the reason is, to use the term dry, it means there's no sugar, so much as minuscule. Well, when Trump gets elected and we get RFK Jr. as an extra bonus, he's putting a stop to a couple of things. Red alert from day one. And on day one, we're going to declare an emergency like we did in COVID. And it's going to be a chronic disease emergency. And we're going to get the fluoride out of the water,
Starting point is 01:27:27 we're going to get the chemicals out of the food, we're going to get the chemicals out of the chemtrails, and there's a thousand ingredients in our food that are banned in Europe. And we're going to get rid of all those chemicals. And I know how to do it. He's not actually going to get rid of chemtrails. Just, he's just going to take the chemicals out of the chemtrails. They'll just be trails. Well, they're not vapor trails, but.
Starting point is 01:28:01 No, there's no such thing. Yeah. Okay. Yesterday in Texas. Oh man. It was bad. We had regular beautiful Cotton blobs everywhere. It was a beautiful day, you know a little enough clouds so that it didn't heat up too much and Throughout all these clouds at low altitude not vapor trail altitude
Starting point is 01:28:27 clouds at low altitude, not vapor trail altitude, just these big fat chemtrails that were spreading out slowly over time, creating this whole cloud cover of junk. Everyone sees it now. It's so obvious. RFK. He said chemtrails. He's nuts, that guy. They're really taking him down now. You've been following the...
Starting point is 01:28:46 Oh yeah, they're finding his old affairs and some woman he sexed with. Nuts, well, see you took the bait. He didn't... Well, I didn't take the bait because I didn't, there's no clips. I didn't bring it up. What bait did I take?
Starting point is 01:29:00 The sexted, he didn't sex with anybody. Sext. He didn't. He wasn't sexting. No. No, this is Olivia Newsy who works for, she worked for Vanity Fair, I think so. And so she did an interview, it was more like a hit piece actually on RFK. But then, and if you read about this woman, she is relentless. She was sending naked pictures and all kinds of stuff. He would block her. And with the whole point being to basically make it look like he had some kind of affair with her. But this is a hit job from everything I've been able to see. Uh, it would bring nothing but sense to me.
Starting point is 01:29:50 And they got to do something about this guy is a problem. Yes. And that's what's happening. They are making it look like he's a sleaze and that's what you do is like, Oh, let's, uh, let's create some problems with his marriage. That's always fun. These people, these people, it's always a good one. The relationship, the relationship turned personal.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Everyone of course immediately thinks, probably sexting, horndog. Yeah. Yeah. It's entertaining. That's for sure. Well, if you know, trying to create a problem with his marriage when his wife might be, quote unquote, his handler, is going nowhere. His handler. I'm still not so sure. I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure anymore. I don't know what he is. I like him, though. I like him. Yeah, he's good stuff. I mean, fluoride out of the water. I mean, that's by itself. Mimi single-handedly got the fluoride out of the water up in Port Angeles.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Did they label her a kook and a conspiracy theorist? No, she did a great job. The way she did it was just masterful. It was not discussable, but they had, you know, the whole fluoride thing is chemical wastes. Yeah, from aluminum. Somehow you got to get rid of it. And the easiest way to do it is to dump it in water supplies and convince people that it is good for your teeth. I told you. I mean, it's masterful.
Starting point is 01:31:20 You know, I had, we had dinner with Maverick, my periodontist, this is months ago. And this is back when I was, you know, think, by the way, it turns out I can't even run for mayor if I wanted to, because we live in unincorporated Fredericksburg. I can't even run for city council. Are you sure? Yeah. Yeah. Unless they change that.
Starting point is 01:31:42 And he was like, oh, what do you think about fluoride in the water? I'm like, horrible, doesn't belong. He's like, oh, what do you think about fluoride in the water? I'm like, horrible, doesn't belong. He's like, you're wrong. This really helps with dental health. He's a dentist guy. Do you really? It really helps with dental health. This is, you know, this has been such a revolution for oral health. I said, bro. And I tried to- You said bro? Bro, and I tried to at the dinner table. I said, bro, no, this is not just regular fluoride. This is industrial waste from alcoa.
Starting point is 01:32:16 It's sludge waste. You don't want that. And if I want fluoride, I'll be happy to take it from my dental professional, not from the government." Put into knowledge with what Uncle Don told me and what was written in Legacy of Ashes, where the CIA would fluoridate enemy camps water so that at night they could go in and roust them because they were all docile. They were docile. Yeah. and roused them because they were all docile. Because they were dumbed down. They were docile, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:47 Speaking of docile, do I still have to take off my shoes now at TSA now that we clearly know that this is one? I haven't taken off my shoes for... Well, I haven't been on flights since COVID. You haven't been on airplanes. But even before then, they stopped doing that. No, sir.
Starting point is 01:33:08 No, sir? Not an officer. That's not, well, because you're wrong. And it's different per airport, but there's lots of airports, so they still make you take your shoes off. Even if you're going through the body scanner. But I mean, it's irrelevant now because clearly we can put PETN into any device and explode it anywhere we want.
Starting point is 01:33:34 So it's all theater. They're not detecting this stuff. No, you can't. No. So should we even go through this song and dance anymore? Makes no sense. It's for the dummies. The dummies who can't afford to fly private? Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 01:33:55 No, it's for the dummies who don't, you know, who think that this is all like, oh, they're going to catch me. I better not do it. Or, or are we going back to the days, and I remember these, ah, you gotta take your laptop out, turn it on so we can see that it's working. Oh, yeah, they, remember that? Yeah, that really slowed down production. I bet people don't remember that.
Starting point is 01:34:14 It was a long time ago, you had to- You had to turn the laptop on. Yeah, to prove that it worked. Now you turn it on, it blows up in your face. All right, TSA guy, you sure you want me to turn it on? You sure you want to see it? Well talking about you want to talk airplane stories. I got a story All right This is a classic mouse on board
Starting point is 01:34:37 Mouse on board Scandinavian Airlines SAS has said one of its flights had to make an emergency landing After a mouse scurried out of a passenger's in-flight meal on Wednesday. The plane was traveling from Norway's capital Oslo to the Spanish city Malaga and was forced to make an emergency landing in Copenhagen, Denmark. The diversion was in line with company procedures as the furry stowaway posed a safety risk,
Starting point is 01:35:01 airline spokesperson Oystein Schmidt told the AFP news agency. Passengers on the flight were later flown to Malaga on a different aircraft. Airlines usually have strict restrictions involving rodents on board planes in order to prevent electrical wiring being chewed through. Believe it or not, a lady next to me here at SAS opened the food and out jumped a mouse. Now we have turned around and landed at CPH Copenhagen Airport for flight changes. One passenger, Jarla Borastad, wrote on Facebook. He posted the comment alongside laughing emojis and a photo of him smiling while sat next to two women. This is something that happens extremely rarely, Mr. Schmidt said. We have established
Starting point is 01:35:40 procedures for such situations which also include a review with our suppliers to ensure this does not happen again. It is the second rodent related travel incident in a week. Well, I'm very disappointed in you. Okay. You brought an AI generated story to the show. Yeah, it sounds like a fake voice, but the story is valid. But just tell us the story. Don't bring in some dude to read it. Clips are us.
Starting point is 01:36:09 That's not... You're creating entropy in our very own show. Well, according to you, that's unavoidable. So what? So, just contributing to it and speeding up the process as it were. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you the man who put the C in the classic mouse clip. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeMorett! And in the morning to you Mr. Adam Carlson. In the morning I should see Booster the Graffini or something.
Starting point is 01:36:41 I'll dance the nights out there. Alright, in the morning Cotton gin is written a script now. It's great cotton gin you to man 2324 peak trollage That's not bad It's actually down a for Sunday. Oh, really? Yeah, we had more on Thursday. We had Thursday we had 2400.
Starting point is 01:37:11 Did we? Well, that was a special day because we had exploding devices. Yeah, we had exploding devices and no donations. Now all we got is, Oprah, Kamala, Chris Rock in the house, in the house, in the hissy hissy house. Where is our senior hall by the way? Where my dog pound at? Oh man, good times.
Starting point is 01:37:38 The trolls are in the troll room, which you can find at trollroom.io. Actually, I got a note from one of our visually impaired producers, the way she put it, I'm half blind. And she has a real problem with trollroom.io. And so I said, well, how about you try, I gave her a couple of suggestions, other ways to do it. But ever since it changed, which just shows how racist our producers are, they changed Trollum.io, made it look all nice. Now the blind people can't use it, which is a very big problem. So I see. You can't win.
Starting point is 01:38:15 You can never win for sure. But I think I helped out with a way to do it. I haven't heard back from her yet, but I think I gave her some good advice. They're listening live. We have been doing this show live for, when did we start doing live? 15 years ago, maybe? We started going live pretty quick. I think after about the first year.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Oh, okay. So almost 16 years. We'll be 17 in October coming up on episode 1700, which we'll talk about in a moment. But I think we're one of a handful. Maybe there's 30 or 40 podcasts. It is the wave of the future. There's no doubt about it. People love being able to listen live.
Starting point is 01:38:53 You get the live interaction. We have the live studio audience, as it were. Although they're not an audience, they are producers. Their entire raison d'être is to troll. Yeah. At least our audience gets to troll. We don't tell them to shut up and flash an applause sign like at Oprah. Whoa!
Starting point is 01:39:12 White dudes for Harris! Swifties for Harris! No, you do what comes naturally, which is troll. But sometimes they have some good information as well. And that's at trollroom.io. or you can use a modern podcast app. Many of them now give you a bat signal. When we send out the bat signal, it fires up and lets you know, oh, that's right. I was about to do something for my boss here at work and screw that. I'm listening to the show and pretending to work. Let me turn on the mouse mover. Everything's good to go.
Starting point is 01:39:43 You also want to use one of those because, well, I just got another note of Spotify that removed the, let's see, the True North Residential School. They had an interview and they removed it from Spotify because it was dangerous content, John. Dangerous content. They removed what? They removed a whole episode. Of what? Of a podcast. The True North Residential School. They do that all the time, don't they? Yeah, but now people They removed what? They removed a whole episode. Of what? Of a podcast. The True North Residential School. They do that all the time, don't they? Yeah, but now people are sending me the reports when it happens. So you do not want to... Why would they remove a single episode of a podcast? It's dangerous. What was dangerous about it?
Starting point is 01:40:22 I haven't listened to it. We need more documentation on this. What? Cause I'd like to know what was dangerous about it? I haven't listened to it. We need more documentation on this. What? Because I'd like to know what was dangerous about a podcast. Let me see. Spotify removed that episode of True North, the Faulkner Show that featured an interview with former residential school worker Rodney Clifton claiming it promoted dangerous content. The streaming giant cited alleged concerns over dangerous content. Okay, why, why, why, why? Upon review, we have removed the following content for
Starting point is 01:40:50 violating Spotify's platform rules for dangerous content. However, specific details about what constituted dangerous were not made clear. So they won't even tell you. Oh, so they just remove it arbitrarily and claim it's dangerous because there's something that they didn't like. Yeah. If something is not to their liking. So there's one guy over at Spotify, I don't like this. This is no good.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Pretty much. I disagree. Out. Pretty much. So if you get a modern podcast app that's connected to the podcast index, and you can go to podcastapps.com, there's over 70 apps and services that use it now. By the way, Patreon does the same thing. Yeah, Patreon throws stuff off all the time and that's a demonetization at the same time. You're done.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Yeah, that's worse. You're done. And they often keep your money for 180 days or whatever. Oh yeah. None of this is smart or good. None of it. So get a modern podcast that people. Now, I've noticed many people have complained to me. Well, I read it as complaining. It may not be complaining. Tim Poole is now moaning that he has to work on weekends and they're running all kinds of spots now in the show. And he's doing live ad reads
Starting point is 01:42:13 and people are very irked by it. And I'm like, what do you expect? He had the money train of all money trains. He was making $5 million a year overnight. Put some of that in the bank. He bought a skateboard park and he bought all kinds of other real estate. Oh, he's spending. Oh, good investment. Skateboard park. That's where I put my money. You'd put it in Bitcoin before you put it in a skate park. Well, also he has staff. you know, it was easy.
Starting point is 01:42:46 He's got a big staff, yeah. When you have five million bucks a year, it's like, this is a gravy train, baby. Now he's got to pay everybody. Come on board. Now he's got to work, you know, like us lowly podcasters, you got to do some work. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:43:00 So we always stayed away from that. I have to keep explaining to people that yes, we realize that our particular hot takes and brand of content and humor probably wouldn't fly with most advertisers. In fact, I remember distinctly getting a call from BMW when we had Mevio and they were all really upset about, I think, I wonder if it was,
Starting point is 01:43:26 it must have been, it might have been Madge Weinstein. I don't know, and BMW ran where it shouldn't have. And they pulled all their advertising in one go, and this was in 2007. So that's one of the reasons we never wanted ads, but also we're just lazy. Talking to advertisers is a pain in the butt. Yeah, it takes away from show prep.
Starting point is 01:43:49 Yeah, it takes a lot of time away from show prep. And then you got to put together the metrics. Oh, look at the metrics. The metrics. Do we hit your KPI? What's your demo? We also have quite a diverse demo. You can't really target one demo with no agenda.
Starting point is 01:44:06 Yeah, our demo is out of control. Nine to 99. We've got kids. Yeah, we do. We've got octogenarians. We do. Do we have any nitrogenarians? What do you call those? What's 90? What are you in your 90s? What are you in your 90s? I should know. And I would have said that. I know there's centenarians,
Starting point is 01:44:26 we probably have a couple of those. If someone is 100 and you listen to the show, please send an email to adamatcurry.com. I wanna highlight you. We'll call you out. We'll call you out. I wanna highlight you. I really do, I wanna highlight you.
Starting point is 01:44:41 We may have one or two, we may. Maybe one or two, yeah, that's enough. Instead we went for a value for value. Guys, you know, I find them refreshing. I guarantee you, anyone who listens to Noah Jen as a hundred is one of those who drinks a bottle of whiskey a day, smokes a cigar and pops a bacon, down bacon. Exactly. That is us. Woo! That's right. Hey, I just realized only 40 more years and I'm there. And I plan to be still spitting in the microphone. And you will be. That probably that's well, what else am I going to do? Literally in 2015, I decided that this is what I'm good at and I gave up everything else, pretty much. So I love my job and I love my truck.
Starting point is 01:45:32 And I love what I do. I love my truck. So instead, we went for the value for value model, which we pioneered. And it's always heartwarming to see that people are catching on to that and doing that for themselves, particularly in music. There is a future in this. to see that people are catching on to that and doing that for themselves, particularly in music. There is a future in this. The future of media is small though.
Starting point is 01:45:50 You just have to delight an audience that supports you. As long as the audience supports you because they're producers with time, talent, or treasure, then you'll be good to go. That's so far so good with us, so we're happy about that. Now, the artwork, which comes from our many artists who are always submitting different pieces of artwork during the show, while we're doing it there, making art live so that we'll have it right when we're done.
Starting point is 01:46:14 By the way, the turnaround time is pretty fast. The minute we're done with a live show, within 30 minutes, you've got it in your podcast app. Parker Pauley, who was a Black Knight, did a piece of art that I actually used for the Bat Signal because he put it in pretty early. And it was a pager with an exploding background and the message reads, 3.2.1. Episode 1696 violated a big rule that we always say is don't use episode number in your art. And also the fact that we used it twice. There was one guy on Twitter, you had 40 pieces of pager art and you did this one twice.
Starting point is 01:47:04 It was that good. Oh man, I just spit on the curry one. It holds up pretty well. You know, the problem is that, is that the one that was picked and put on the list of winners was the one that he did later called Boom, not the three, two, one.
Starting point is 01:47:27 If you go to the art generator. Did I pull the wrong one? I think you did. Or somebody did, or maybe it was Couture when he put it up there. I'm looking. No, it was Parker Pauley who did it, not Couture, it was Parker Pauley.
Starting point is 01:47:44 He did two of them. He did two of them. One was three, two, one, episode 1396, who did it, not Couture. He did two of them. He did two of them. One was 321 episode 1396, 321, a boom. And then the other one just said boom on it. Well, right now I'm not getting anything from the generator. So. Oh, well I'm on it now. You're hogging the bandwidth, Devorah.
Starting point is 01:48:00 I'm taking all the bandwidth. It's the AI. It's too much AI going on in the background. It's not making it work. So a lot of people did pager art. Yeah, I'd say. Yes. But none was really as good as that one.
Starting point is 01:48:15 And, you know, there was a lot of freak off art, which was, I kind of liked the Hezbollah phone by Tantanil. You correctly said that there were some problems with it. Maybe you'd like to reiterate. I have to go back to it. I'm looking something else up. Um, I don't know which one it was. The, uh, the two tin cans.
Starting point is 01:48:37 Oh, yeah, it was, well, for it was off, it was too hard to see. I mean, it was just small and it was, it was, it was simple. It was, I know you liked it and it was cute. It was all center. No agenda creative art was too small. It just was unbalanced. Yeah, unbalanced is the right word. And then there was, we liked the Exploderola. That was kind of cute. A couple people did Exploderola. Corre kind of cute. A couple of people did Exploderola. Corrector Record didn't use that term twice. Yeah, that was cute.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Which was cute. Exploderola was funny. Exploderola was funny. Oh, I see. Okay, the Pagers Go Boom. Hmm. I may have picked the wrong one by mistake. Well, that's what I was looking up. I was going to go to No Agenda Show and see what's listed there, because that would be the giveaway. And that would have saved me.
Starting point is 01:49:30 That would have saved me from the scorn and the outrage that I'd used the same piece of art twice. Another misser. Was there anything else? No, that was good. Everyone did pagers. Well, it made the most sense. So that was, everyone did pagers. Made the most sense. So it was a real pager, pager competition.
Starting point is 01:49:49 It was pager day, pagerama. Yes. So far I'm looking, I don't see much, there's plenty of chances to win people, but not with Kamala. Horace. Horace. Horace. Horace.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Horace. Horace. NoahGender Horace. Horace. Horace. Horace. NoahGenderArtGenerator.com. You can refresh that live during the show, see how the artists are doing. I saw Nick the Rat in the troll room, so I wonder if he'll be uploading anything, because I know that his life changed and he couldn't listen live. I think he gave up.
Starting point is 01:50:20 He might have given up. He's still high on the leaderboard though. He did real well there for a long, long time. Yeah, he was on a roll. Time and talent are those two things that you can provide value back to us. Many people do lots of things, including the art generator itself,
Starting point is 01:50:37 hitting people in the mouth, getting them to listen to the show, just doing things to help make the show better by being a producer, sending us in boots on the ground, you name it. There's a lot of ways you can contribute. We do need treasure. And the concept is whatever value you feel you got out of the show,
Starting point is 01:50:57 send that back to it. And that can be any amount for any reason at any time. We love sustaining donations, which are usually smaller amounts, but you can make up any amount for any reason at any time. We love sustaining donations which are usually smaller amounts but you can make up any amount you want, any frequency you want it, we prefer those to be recurring automatically recurring. You can do all that at NoAgendaDonations.com and around this time in the show we'd like to thank our executive and associate executive producers. $200 and above is we read your note and we give you an associate executive producers. $200 and above is, we read your note
Starting point is 01:51:25 and we give you an associate executive producer credit, which is a real, real show business production credit. You can use it anywhere that credits are recognized, including imdb.com, or you could be an executive producer for $300 above and we read your note. Now we have several who came in for a new promotion, which I'd like you to talk about. Yes, we have a new promotion. This will be our show 1700 promotion.
Starting point is 01:51:52 Every year we do something. And this year we're going to give away what's called the No Agenda Commodore. This was outlined in the newsletter. If people don't get the newsletter, we'll tell you what it is. Some people just don't like the newsletter. I got a note from somebody. Your newsletter stinks! The beginning's always asking for money. It's tiresome. And of course I looked him up. He has never donated. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. Of course not. But he likes to complain. So the promotion is...
Starting point is 01:52:27 A lot of people when they hear Commodore associate it with something other than a title. Commodore was the reference to the one-star admiral in the Navy until about 1895. And it's become a, and Rhode Island is the main state that gives these out as honorary titles to people as Commodore. There's not that many Commodores out of Rhode Island compared to Kentucky colonels, which is why this is based on the idea of a Kentucky colonel, which I am one. I actually have the certification.
Starting point is 01:53:04 I got my Kentucky colonel ship some years ago when I was giving a speech to, I was offered to give a talk to the Kentucky Computer Club or something back in the 80s, I think it was late 80s. And I said, oh, I don't know, you know, you get any honorarium or something? No, we don't have anything we can do. Who else has spoken there? I said, well, Stuart Alsop spoke here last time and he, they gave him, he got a Kentucky colonel ship. And I said, what?
Starting point is 01:53:38 He says, yeah. I said, well, do you give me one of those? I'm coming. So I got a Kentucky colonel ship. Wilkerson was the governor at the time. And it's a nice certificate, it's got a ribbon and everything on the bottom. So this is kind of fashioned after that.
Starting point is 01:53:52 It kind of sounds Star Trek-y too. Was it Commodore? Yeah, wasn't that Commodore and Susan? There was some nut woman that's demanded to be Commodore, it's called Commodore all the time. But anyway, so yeah, it has a Star Trek-y quality. But so Commodore is one of these alternate to the Colonel, and it's a little higher rank,
Starting point is 01:54:13 and I thought it sounded better, no agenda, Commodore. And so this gives you, you'll get the nice certificates on legal sizes, eight and a half by 14 is pretty big and with a ribbon and a special stamp and it's got it's a nice certificate. Adam will pose with one of them in an upcoming newsletter. Yeah, so you can put, use it to meme crazy stuff on it. Thanks. People always do. Oh look, he's holding something up. Oh, let's put a star of David on there and put a little yarmulke on him. Yeah, that's hilarious. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:54:48 Whatever. I will pose with it. It's free publicity, that's the way I see it. Is it in the mail? Is it coming yet? I can't wait to see it. It's coming, but it's not in the mail. Okay.
Starting point is 01:54:58 We're still working on the paper. Oh, is it gonna be heavy stock? Yeah, it's gonna be heavy stock, but it's gotta be able to go through the printer. It can't be like card stock. Okay. So anyway, that's coming. Nice.
Starting point is 01:55:15 Anyway, it's $500 and you get that and a couple, and you can just go to know it, just $500 bucks. Anyone, $500 or over you'll get one of these for until shows until the end of the promotion it's about a month we figure about a month and so when can we see this thing is that this is soon I want to see it I'm interested I love that people are already getting it sight unseen which is amazing well they know it's gonna be hot looking yeah it's always hot anything that comes out of Gateview Publishing is hot.
Starting point is 01:55:45 Hot looking. Well, Jay's doing all the designs, so she's good. All right. So we start off with our first executive producer who also will be a Commodore, Anonymous, from No City Provided USA, $500. And Anonymous says, hey, it's been a while since I donated, but I love a good alter ego. Well, that's a good way of looking at it. Also, your show has given me some of the best Z's over the years. I think it's a compliment. Please call me Commodore Gizmo. I'm sure I'll forget
Starting point is 01:56:20 this as my night name. No jingles. Okay. no jingles for you. But thank you very much Anonymous and welcome. Actually, we're going to Commodore people have a little ceremony during the second. Oh, really? Oh, that's cute. That's cute. Well, of course. I mean, I'm part of the promotion here. I'm trying to do something. Yes, you are. Yeah, we are the key to it. We welcome our brand new Commodores. You bet. We welcome our brand new Commodores, you bet. Now we have Serge Golobenko in Staten Island, of all places, New York. It will be a Commodore.
Starting point is 01:56:56 And he says, if anyone in New York City and Long Island requires environmental work, please reach out to AGG for outstanding service it's 718-499-2300 is that a promotion? I think it is I think it is a promotion if you need environmental work on Long Island in New York City what is environmental work? cleaning the rats out of the sewer oh okay I have no idea it must be a lot of work that you would know also we should organize a meetup in Hampton, the Hampton Bay area Montauk. I could get some help for the show. Sg-agg at hotmail.com. Hm. Sg-agg. Hotmail. Hotmail. Sir Baronet John Helmer from Shawnee, Kansas comes in for 500 for a Commodore ship.
Starting point is 01:57:53 Adam and John, the numerology of show 1697 and the no agenda Commodore promotion were too good to resist. I understand. I totally get it. Thanks for the dose of sanity you provide twice a week. Can I get an F-35 Scream? Oh, hold on, I had an F-35 Karma and you said F-35 Scream. Yes, F-35 Scream and an R2D2 Karma. Thank you, Sir Baronet John Helmer from Shawnee, Kansas. I said, what in the world is this? You've got karma.
Starting point is 01:58:31 Very similar. Yeah, almost the same. Christian Freeman in San Marcos, Texas, which is right at the street from you. 500, another Commodore. In the morning, John and Adam, I had night status a few months ago via the layaway program and all that time I'd never written in, so I needed deducing. My wife and I have loved listening to No Agenda together every week since we started listening in January of 2022. We now recommend it to
Starting point is 01:59:05 all of our family as a antidote to the MSM craziness. They might not understand how a podcast apps work. Well then they won't be listening for long. But when we're visiting we enjoy sitting down together to listen to some of the good old media deconstruction. Hey, you can just go to NoAgendaShow.net. You can play it right there. You don't need a podcast app. You can do it right from the website. Please night me Sir Crimby of the San Marcos River. And with, so he gets a nighting. I hope he's on the list. Yes, he is. And with my donation today, a Commodore, Commodore Crimby. I let you guys decide how that works. I'll have a glass of orange juice
Starting point is 01:59:52 and Ray Pete's carrot salad at the round table. Yum. I guess it's famous. Please, thanks guys. A quick shout out to Billy and Spud from the guy who was getting a kick out of guy's name, Spud. A quick shout out to Billy and Spud from the War Mode podcast for first making me aware of no agenda. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Yeah, shout out to Billy and Spud. Yup, Billy and Spud. A few years ago, War Mode donation. Can I get a jobs karma as I'm interviewing for a new job over the next few weeks? Thanks for all you do. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma.
Starting point is 02:00:39 Then we have Dame Cheryl from Pinedale, Wisconsin, 333. Wyoming. Wyoming, 333-33. And she sent in a note with a check, I see. John and Adam, thank you for being awesome and congrats on your upcoming 17 year anniversary. Your show is the best and I'm always enlightened by your deconstruction of current events.
Starting point is 02:01:01 In my neighborhood, we have not noted any missing cats, dogs or ducks, but since the animals outnumber people by 10 to one, we have not noted any missing cats, dogs, or ducks, but since the animals outnumber people by 10 to 1, we might not notice. However, if anyone tried to swipe a pet around here would not go so well for the perpetrator." She's packing. Thank you for your courage. Yes. We are going to need a good dose of that in the coming months. Dame Cheryl Cowgirl of the Wind River Range in Wyoming. She She got a picture of her on a on a horse here. Looks like her doesn't it? Like her on the check. She's got personalized checks.
Starting point is 02:01:29 Nice. Thank you very much Dame Cheryl. Nice handwriting too by the way. Very classic. Classic big big loops. Big loops. Big hoops and loops. She's got style. She does. Sirly furious. Sirly He does. Sirleaf Furious. Sirleaf. Sirleaf Furious. Sirleaf. Sirleaf. Sirleaf.
Starting point is 02:01:47 Sirleaf. Sirleaf. Sirleaf. Sirleaf. Sirleaf. Sirleaf. Sirleaf. Sirleaf.
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Starting point is 02:02:03 Sirleaf. Sirleaf. Sirleaf. Sirleaf. Sirleaf. Sirleaf. had a great time, met lots of great people. John and Adam replay the Hillary clips from last week. She says, ah, enough to rival Bill Gates. Sir Lee, Sir Lee furious. Well, I won't do that, but I will play half of the AI Hillary. Will you be choking Puff Daddy this time around? Right. So how are you planning on doing it? I wanted to choke him at night and make it look like a suicide, just like Jeffrey Epstein.
Starting point is 02:02:26 But then I realized Puffy might actually enjoy that. So, you know, maybe he slips on the shower, maybe he chokes with a piece of fried chicken. I still haven't decided yet. So good. Serpent in the troll room. Hello, Serpent in the troll room. Yo sup, Cranky and the Hair Guy.
Starting point is 02:02:43 It's my 31st birthday today. Hooray! I'm no longer in the Target demo. You sup, Cranky and the Hair Guy. It's my 31st birthday today. Hooray, I'm no longer in the Target demo. Well, you are the demo, bruh. Thanks for all you guys do. That is the Target demo. That is totally the demo. Thanks for all you guys do and give the trolls some karma. P.S., if any producers could use a no agenda baronet
Starting point is 02:03:00 with a background in meteorology, who knows Python better than the average science programmer is willing to learn the good old languages like Fortran, C, C++ and wants to be saved from the full stupidity web dev. I'm Serpent in the Troll Room or on ZeroNote in general and on no authority. All right. 222.22 Associate Executive Producer shift forpent, who's getting lots of karma in the troll room and karma for you right now. You've got karma. Kevin Garguilo in Sugar Hill, Georgia. 222.22, that's another row of ducks.
Starting point is 02:03:43 Greetings, John and Adam. Please accept my annual retirement treasure donation for a row of ducks. On 9-22, I will have completed two years of my early retirement. No jingles, no karma. Sir Kevin G of the Lake Lanier, boaters. So Kevin G-A-R-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-Gar-GarA-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A-R-G-A Hey and with 209.23 there he is Eli the coffee guy from Bensonville, Illinois. We appreciate his support so much and he would like to invite all producers to help us that will be a gigawatt coffee roaster, gigawatt coffee to celebrate an unappreciated holiday tomorrow September 23rd is National See Say Day. That's right.
Starting point is 02:04:46 It's national what? For See Something, Say Something, National See Say Day. Yes. Because Janet DePolatano said it best, if you see something, say something. To help commemorate this important day, Gigawatt Coffee Roasters is offering all of our sample packs for 23% off because nothing opens your eyes more than a good cup of coffee Use code see say valid from 922 through 926 Stay caffeinated Eli the coffee guy go and he does ask for no. I didn't realize he had that
Starting point is 02:05:20 See something say something he wants the see something, say something jingle. And what else did he want there? They're eating the dogs. We gotta get to pull that clip from Trump. I have it. Oh you do? Good. Yeah, I have it.
Starting point is 02:05:33 I have it, yes. And anything else? No. Okay. If you see something, say something. They're eating the dogs. I pulled that clip a long time ago, believe me. A classic.
Starting point is 02:05:43 It is a classic. They're eating the dogs. They are. Linda LuPatkin is up. And I see our last person here tonight. Yeah. Yes, she is. Unfortunately. Very short again.
Starting point is 02:05:55 Linda LuPatkin of Lakewood, Colorado, 200. She wants some jobs karma. I think we can give her that. PSA to all you businesses out there. Donate. It works. And for a resume that works, visit theImageMakersInc.com with a K. For all your executive resume and job search needs and work with Linda Liu, the
Starting point is 02:06:12 Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Yeah baby! NoAgadonations.com. Thank you very much to our executive and associate executive producers, and we will be officially welcoming our Commodores in the second segment. And of course, we read all of the donation amounts and the names. $50 and above. Thank you so much for supporting us.
Starting point is 02:06:40 The Best Podcast in the the universe episode 1697. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. They're eating the dogs. No attended donations.com. I want to talk a little bit about drag queens. You know, so many wonderful dinner parties have started off with that very sentence. I want to talk a little bit about drag queens. Because there is a commentary that was put out by James Kunstler, the writer, that I
Starting point is 02:07:26 think is worth putting on the show. But first of all, let's talk about what happened to Tupperware. Oh yeah, they went out of business. They went out of business. And I think it might be that there might be some evidence as to why they really went out of business with these two clips. This is Tupperware and the Drag Queens. This week, one of America's most iconic brands
Starting point is 02:07:46 filed for bankruptcy. Tupperware was a staple of American households for decades, so much so that many people refer to any plastic container as Tupperware, whether or not it is the brand. The company emerged in post-war America and sales opportunities once revolutionized women's earning potential.
Starting point is 02:08:03 But over the years, a new generation of sellers have picked up the torch. Drag queens have become some of Tupperware's most successful salespeople over the past few decades. Oscar Quintero has found similar success selling Tupperware in drag as Kay Sidiya. Kay Sidiya, really? Okay, first of all, I'm going to pull a John C. Dvorak on you. They didn't go out of business. They only filed chapter 11, not the same thing. Yeah. So they're not out of business. They've just filed chapter 11. Yes. That's what you do. It's a reorg. It's bankruptcy protection. Yeah, it's a reorg. They're going out of business.
Starting point is 02:08:46 Don't you think that it becomes a drag queen thing and next thing you know, they're out of business or not out of business, but they have to follow chapter 11. I mean, come on. You're telling me it's related? Are you telling me this is related? Yeah. I would think that the drag queens, that would be such a draw because the ladies love the drag queens. Oh, we're doing a Tupperware party and the drag queens are coming over. It's
Starting point is 02:09:05 going to be a hoot. Now they have to bring this guy, K. Cedilla. And I have another complaint. Just going to complain about drag queens, but I'm going to complain about this one. Here's the part two. And he joins us now to talk about his experience. Oscar, welcome to All Things Considered. Hi, thanks for having me. Can I just, can I get KCedia's sales pitch before we talk more broadly? Sure. Hola, everyone. It's me, KCedia, your 18 year old international high fashion model, Topor Divachola from Tijuana. What? Harris! Harris! Now, Bill Dana was run out of town years ago for doing Jose Jimenez. And the Chihuahua from Taco Bell was run out of town because the Chihuahua had a Mexican accent.
Starting point is 02:10:00 But this is okay? Yo quiero Taco Bell. Well, if you're a drag queen, you can do anything you want. In particular to kids. So this brings me to this clip from James Cunsell who's on a podcast with this Piero character. And he's a writer... He's a political writer. He hates Republicans to the extreme, but hates Democrats. The only one he likes in politics is Trump because he sees the Democrats and Republicans
Starting point is 02:10:33 as a bunch of corrupt parties and Trump is a savior in some sort. Interesting. Yeah. And he's a good writer. He's got a couple of books. You should look at Kuntzler, James Kuntzler. He's got a couple of books. You should look at Kuntzler, James Kuntzler. He's got a couple of books out that are really dynamite. But I heard this analysis of drag queens is something I've never heard.
Starting point is 02:10:53 And I was kind of taken aback and I thought it was kind of interesting because it, I don't know what to make of it, but here we go. I mean, there are some elements of all the mischief that's going on I mean, there are some elements of all the mischief that's going on that are obviously either explicitly planned or allowed. For example, the insanity of the drag queen story hour phenomenon in America. Do you have that in Europe? Of course. Oh, you do?
Starting point is 02:11:21 Well, you had it at the Olympics. So it is coordinated because obviously otherwise we wouldn't have it. Yeah. You saw the Olympic opening ceremonies, right? And the closing ceremonies. Well, I actually didn't look at it, but I saw the- You must have seen some photos and videos. Yeah, of course. I'm busy. I don't have time for such things. I didn't either. I saw the videos, but I saw plenty of it. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:11:42 And it was completely insane. And the drag queen story hour in America, it's an interesting phenomenon because I think it's misunderstood. You know, these men who are dressing up as women, in quotes, women, they are not presenting themselves as women, strictly speaking, they're presenting women as monsters, and this is a very, I think, a kind of a subtle psychological ploy. It'd be one thing if they were just saying, you know, we're trying to make ourselves as beautiful as possible and pass ourselves off as women, but they are so obviously acting as monsters. There's some other psychological dynamic that's going on there that you have to think is pretty sick.
Starting point is 02:12:28 It's the kind of thing that's so subtle that it's easily misunderstood even by supposedly intelligent people who are missing the point. And the idea that the educated class, the thinking class in America, which predominates in the left, globalist, democratic party cohort. Yes. The fact that they think that's okay tells you that they're insane, right there. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:12:58 That's an interesting analysis. And we have to make a distinction between transvestites, which is men who like to dress like women, and drag queens who indeed, he makes a good point. And I think drag queens in general are gay guys, very, you know, kind of the effeminate girlfriend. Woo! Woo! Flamboyant. Flamboyant, but a fear of women or hate.
Starting point is 02:13:25 I don't know if it's really hate. It's probably mom issues. Yeah. But the monster's analogy is exactly right. If you look at them, they're monsters. They're monsters. They're monsters. They're monsters.
Starting point is 02:13:41 They're monsters. They're monsters. They're monsters. They're monsters. They're yeah. But the monsters analogy, they're exactly right. Yeah. If you look at them, they're monsters. There's not like a person. No.
Starting point is 02:13:54 No. Well, I guess I'm gonna cancel the drag queen story hour for our meetup. Here in Fredericksburg. Now that is interesting. I had not really thought of it that way, but it is inherently anti-woman if you think about it. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:14:15 I just found the analysis. I was taken aback. I never really understood the appeal. I mean, I think it started with female impersonators. So I kind of, no, I think I understood the, well, I'm gonna do Cher or I'm gonna do Madonna or I'm gonna do Barbra Streisand. And that was more like a vaudeville-esque, you know,
Starting point is 02:14:39 it's funny. It's like, is it take off? Yeah, burlesque. Burlesque, yes. It was funny and then do an outrageous impersonation, and there was real money to be made in that, but it just became a whole thing all by itself. Yeah, you know what that is?
Starting point is 02:14:53 Entropy, right there. Oh, oh, stop, stop, sorry. Entropy. Entropy. Yeah, it left to its own devices, it just devolved, and it just became horrible. Horrible. Yeah, it left to its own devices. It just devolved and it just became horrible. Horrible. Yeah, horrible, horrible.
Starting point is 02:15:10 Well, that was refreshing. Can I move on? Yeah, I'm glad you thought I would lighten things up. Yeah, let me lighten things up with some climate change. Under the Inflation Reduction Act, $7.5 billion for building these charging stations. The latest information, eight have been built. With the seven and a half billion. This is an interview with, I think with Buddha Judge.
Starting point is 02:15:31 By the way, on this note, they've built, they've just gone on for four years. When Biden was first running, oh, we're gonna build 500,000 charging stations. They built eight. Meanwhile, as Kamala's running, she's talking about building three million homes. Yes.
Starting point is 02:15:49 They're not building one home. They can't build eight of these charging stations, they're gonna build all these homes, I don't think so. Well, I know why, but let's listen to Buddha Judge first. That it's been allocated. You're supposed to get to 500,000 of these charging stations by 2030. What is really the problem with, have you looked at that and figured out why?
Starting point is 02:16:12 Oh yeah, no, that's on track. So we're at about 190,000 publicly available charging stations in the US. That's approximately double what the level was when President Biden came in. The issue though is that there are some gaps in the market, ones that are just not going to be built by the private sector that's been building the construction of those chargers to date. That's why the legislation provided for funding to do federally supported chargers that are intended to be online before 2030. Now, the bulk of that construction will happen in 27, 28, quite a bit actually
Starting point is 02:16:47 I expect by 2026. A handful as you mentioned are actually already up and running, but really what you're going to see is more the second half of this decade. And it's really important to have those federally supported chargers because you have stretches of road or even just in the middle of our cities, apartment buildings, places in our economy where it just doesn't yet pencil out for there to be the private sector profitably doing that. And even though about 80% of EV charging happens at home, the reality is that the new EV kind of landscape we're working toward, where the president's goal is about half of sales to be EVs by the end of this decade, requires us by the end of this decade to have a lot
Starting point is 02:17:29 of charging apparatus that just isn't there as we're sitting here in 2024. So what Joe Kernan there at CNBC did not get to, the reason that they have not built them is because of the requirements for the contracts. This is so typical of this particular administration. The contracts require that these be built by minority companies, either women-owned, people of color-owned, et cetera. And most companies don't qualify. That's what the holdup is. It's the same thing with the broadband, $42 billion worth of broadband. All the stuff in the Inflation Reduction Act was all woke. They put all of this woke connotation, ESG, DEI stuff onto it.
Starting point is 02:18:16 And that's why there's no one is qualifying. Well, this is a plus? Well, yes, in a way it is a plus. Well, yes, in a way, it's a plus. I agree. Because these EVs made sexy by Elon Musk, I am against them. I think it's a bad idea. I don't like them. I don't like the danger of them. And in fact, they're quite bad, even in traffic on the highway. Turning now to something you may not know, the new crash tests of electric vehicles which point to an unexpected danger. Guardrails on America's roads are typically tested against vehicles weighing up to 5,000
Starting point is 02:18:52 pounds, but many electric vehicles weigh more than that, up to 30% more in fact. And that means most guardrails may not hold up in a collision. Chris Van Cleave shows us the consequences could be deadly. More than 19,000 people died in crashes where their vehicle left the roadway last year. That's nearly half of all traffic deaths. Guardrails and similar roadway barriers are designed to reduce the number and severity of these crashes. This is how a guardrail is supposed to work, containing a vehicle and redirecting it back towards the road. Stop.
Starting point is 02:19:24 But watch what happens in the electric the road. Stop! Hold on! Hold on! Oh I'm exploding here! What's happening? Stop! Sorry about that. I've got a runaway board. A roadway barriers are designed to reduce the number and severity of these crashes.
Starting point is 02:19:38 This is how a guardrail is supposed to work, containing a vehicle and redirecting it back towards the road. But watch what happens when an electric sedan hits a standard guardrail. During this new testing from the Texas Transportation Institute, the guardrail fails as the sedan rips through. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety says it is concerned about EV's additional weight resulting in more severe crashes. A concerned NTSB Chair Jennifer Homendy told CBS News she shares.
Starting point is 02:20:07 I think it does present significant challenges for safety. In March, Senator Fischer asked Chair Homendy about EVs and guardrails during a Senate hearing. Our guardrails, crash attenuators, they are rated up to 5,000 pounds. Many of these vehicles go up to 10,000 pounds. So that has an impact on safety. The EPA estimates half of all new car sales could be EVs by 2032. Not much time to raise the bar on roadside safety barriers.
Starting point is 02:20:36 Yeah, that's the first thing that has to change is this EPA, you know, the reason this is happening is because of the emission standards, which make it almost mandatory for automobile manufacturers to create a certain number of electric vehicles in their fleet, even if they lose money on it, so they can just sell regular cars to people who want to just have a good vehicle. Yeah, a reliable vehicle that you can fill up. You can recharge at a gas station in like five minutes as opposed to an hour. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:12 And it doesn't ignite and burn for days if you crash it through the guardrail, which won't hold back. No, none of this is good. So dumb. Oh, it's Elon. It's sexy. It's great. And you hear about this warlord, this Chechen warlord who bought a
Starting point is 02:21:28 Cybertruck. He says that Elon gave it to him, which I totally believe. And then he remotely disabled it, which is quite telling. What? Elon gave him a Cybertruck and then disabled it? So the Chechen warlord... Seems like a waste of money. But Elon gave him a Cybertruck and then disabled it? So the Chechen Warlord. It seems like a waste of money. The Chechen, well, the Chechen Warlord, they've had lots of these Cybertrucks with machine guns mounted on the back.
Starting point is 02:21:56 Lots of, lots of guys bought these. That'd be kind of cool looking. It does look cool. There's photos of it in this article. This is Zero Hedge article. So this Chechen warlord said, Elon Musk did something ugly. He gave me this beautiful cyber truck, then he disabled it. And of course, the only thing Elon is replying is you think I gave a cyber truck to a Chechen warlord?
Starting point is 02:22:18 Well, that's not the story. The story is they can be disabled by remote. I think every single Tesla can be disabled by remote. Yeah, of course they can. Or taken over remotely driven. Drive right into a wall. Nobody. I just got a new EULA. I don't like this guy. I just got a EULA for my car. It's like, oh, we've done a software update.
Starting point is 02:22:39 Well, maybe I don't want that. I got to dig through this EULA, see what they can do, but I'm sure that they're- Well, during one of the hurricanes, if you recall in Florida, when everyone had these electric cars, they couldn't charge, they sent out a software upgrade. They gave them an extra 100 miles and they could drive further.
Starting point is 02:22:59 Yeah, now it works better. Here you go. Normally that costs you $20,000. Here it is for free. You know what that is? Entropy, all of it. Well, no, it's just the opposite. Everything I'm saying now is gonna be entropy.
Starting point is 02:23:12 Yeah, I know. Well, it's better than some of the other stuff you've done. Gee, thanks. I mean, it's- The great reveal. You've dropped that one. It's the season of reveal. Well, the reason I-
Starting point is 02:23:23 I like the great reveal better. The reason I stopped this because whenever I said it you would go some reveal that's not a reveal so I stopped it cuz you know you got your life so I have to so I have to carp you just have to say good one Adam that would be helpful I see that all the time. Sure you do. I do. Your last presentation, the last show, I complimented you profusely. Thank you. Well, I will bring back the season of Reveal because it hasn't stopped.
Starting point is 02:23:53 Oh God, no. So we can't have RFK Jr. in the administration soon enough because, man, they're really going after beef now, which is a real problem. You already heard Tedros, if you recall a few shows back. The problem is beef, we must reduce our intake of beef. It is not good, the beef. I don't know, man. I look at Texas Slim's grandparents. All they ate was beef and maybe a potato. They looked pretty good. Everybody looked slim and trim and they worked out on the ranch for 18 hours a day and they
Starting point is 02:24:33 liked it. And they read their Bible by candlelight at night when times were good. But no, no, now we have to get rid of beef because, well, due to climate change. Do you know about meatfluencers? Do you know about meatfluencers, John? Oh, brother. No, I have not heard of that. This is NPR in case you were wondering.
Starting point is 02:24:59 Okay, well, these are a group of online personalities and celebrities often pushing the idea that men should eat lots of meat. This is you. They're talking about you. I'm a meatfluencer. You are. Well, I don't quite fit the bill because I don't have the body build that you're supposed to have.
Starting point is 02:25:17 But this is like Texas Slim, who was anything but a beefed up dude. This is like the meat mafia boys, our friends, the meat mafia, they're all meatfluencers. Lots of meat, often lots of red meat, beef, to live up to their potential. Some of them are actually selling beef products, including supplements made of beef. It tastes so good.
Starting point is 02:25:42 More. Some of them don't just promote the benefits of eating lots of red meat. Some of them spread false and misleading views about eating certain plants. How can a view be false and misleading? Isn't that just your view? A misleading view. Yeah, view. View.
Starting point is 02:26:02 Particularly, these guys. Come on, man. This is good stuff. This is view. View. Particularly soy. Yeah, these guys. Come on, man. This is good stuff. This is gold. They spread false and misleading views about eating certain plants, particularly soy. Soy!
Starting point is 02:26:16 Soy! Soy! They're going to tell me that it's mean if you make fun of soy. Particularly soy. Particularly soy, including the idea that soy can feminize men. Is this true, John? Well, you know, there is an estrogen analog in soy oil that I believe makes men grow breasts. Here's Joe Rogan describing that for you. Soy is one of the rare foods that's actually attached to being a bitch.
Starting point is 02:26:50 Some men are afraid of consuming soy. It has a stigma. There's even a derogatory term for weak men called soy boys. It's a pretty popular term. I have not heard the term soy boy. What? Okay. Hold on. This is soy boy. What? Okay. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:27:06 This is NPR. Stop the clip. You have not heard the word soy boy. Get off the air. Researchers say changing diets will require new messaging. Listen up America. Meat has problems and it's going to take us meat eaters to solve them. Ayesha, can you describe this guy in the ad? He looks kind of like a big burly man and he's walking around aggressively.
Starting point is 02:27:34 You know, I'd rather have the AI podcast than these two. I'll be straight up honest with you. This is painful and it's on NPR, our national treasure. Exactly. He was slapping a beef hamburger out of some guy's hand. He replaced it with a plant based burger because this is an ad for the plant based food company, Impossible Foods. Okay, let's go on. Because now we can turn plants into burgers and hot dogs. Even meatballs. Then someone offers the main guy a helmet and he gets on a motorcycle.
Starting point is 02:28:08 We're solving the meat problem. With more meat! Impossible! Meat from plants! He gets on the motorcycle and he zooms off exploding! Exploding him to the horizon! I showed this Impossible Foods ad to Gabriel Rosenberg. He's a professor of gender studies at Duke University.
Starting point is 02:28:28 There we go, there we go. Professor and g- Hold on a second. There we go. We've gone from meat to soy boys to gender studies. You know what that is? Entropy. Entropy, obviously.
Starting point is 02:28:43 Gabriel specifically studies gender and food, and he thinks there's some very important symbolism going on. Gender and food. Wait. So these guys are so hard up for something to do, these gender professors, that they're studying gender and food. That's right. And they make it a course.
Starting point is 02:29:02 Hey, you want to just take gender and food 101? Oh yeah, I want to take that you want to just take gender and food 101? Oh yeah, I want to take that. I want to take gender and food. He's this like older figure of masculinity. He's teaching you how to be a man. And then he's like explosively rural. It's basically just saying, men, you have permission to eat our product
Starting point is 02:29:22 and still be manly and still be masculine. Why do you need a PhD in gender studies to make that analysis? Anyway, here's the last part. I got on a Zoom with Peter McGinnis. He's the president and CEO of Impossible Foods. You think this is some kind of native ad or some kind of promotion? Impossible Foods has been mentioned at least three times, maybe more so far. With the ad, yeah. They paid for this.
Starting point is 02:29:50 I think so too. This is a paid for native ad on NPR. We catch them all the time. I'm glad you got this one. It's sickening. The main thing Peter found is that there were people they weren't reaching, customers who see plant-based food and think it isn't for them. So we got our sales team on the call to talk to them because, hey, we can help you reach your soy boys. That's our demo right here. NPR listeners, our soy boys, they'll love your product. We'll do a whole special for you. They see it as food for vegans and vegetarians.
Starting point is 02:30:26 Peter wants it to be more inclusive. That really means more meat eaters. To reach more of them, Peter says they needed to change the branding. I think we had the messaging wrong for a long, long time and all this stuff. Can you just see the consultants? Oh, wait, this is the excuse for the fact
Starting point is 02:30:41 that their sales suck? Because their products suck. It's terrible tasting. We have bad messaging. We weren't able to bullshit the public enough. Impossible Foods was founded to help curb climate change, to reduce that huge amount of climate pollution. I don't eat to curb climate change. I drink to curb climate change. I drink to curb climate change. From animal agriculture. But Peter says in their advertising, they are not leaning into climate. Yeah, because climate change,
Starting point is 02:31:14 like so many other things, has become politicized and kind of a part of the culture wars. It's true. And Peter doesn't want his customers to associate his product with politics at all. Please. We don't want anything partisan, political, weird. They changed the packaging for green. Oh, he doesn't want Republicans eating it. Often associated with environmentalists to red.
Starting point is 02:31:40 So it looks like red meat. So we're leaning into that, right? All those meat cues. Right? Meat cues. They want to make a big tent to welcome meat eaters. But psychology researchers say ads like this are important. They can broaden social acceptance for plant-based foods.
Starting point is 02:31:56 To shift diets away from beef, shifting social norms will be key. Wow. There you go. Your national treasure at work. Well, that sucked. No, it didn't suck. Oh, these people are destroying the world. It's entropy. That is indeed a, NPR is a perfect example of entropy. Meanwhile, the new world order is meeting this week in New York to discuss the importance
Starting point is 02:32:10 of the world order. The world order is a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order.
Starting point is 02:32:18 It's a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order. It's a very important example of the world order. ItPR is a perfect example of entropy. Meanwhile, the New World Order is meeting this week in New York.
Starting point is 02:32:29 It's a big deal, big, big deal. We got the UN General Assembly. Actually, there was an interesting report on TRT, which was like some kind of predictive programming. This year's UN General Assembly will see upwards of 142 world leaders in New York City all at once. It will be surrounded by an unprecedented massive security blanket of heavily armed police, secret service
Starting point is 02:32:55 and diplomatic security agents. The assassination attempts on former president Donald Trump have impacted the already heightened security measures in place. The Department of Homeland Security has given it the designation of National Special Security Event. What's changed from this year from last year is obviously October 7th. There have been more than 4,000 protests in New York City against Israel's brutal war on Gaza since last October. It has also changed the dynamic of the security inside the UN, with the expected arrival of
Starting point is 02:33:30 President Joe Biden, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Ukraine's President Vladimir Zelensky. Attacks on the UN building here have been rare, but the most notable occurring in 1964 when a bazooka was fired from across the East River here during a speech by Che Guevara of Cuba in the General Assembly Hall. Now the bazooka shell fell short about 180 meters from the shoreline here but the diplomats inside this building were rattled. Man, I never heard about the bazooka shot from across the river. I'm older than you and I never heard of it. But it really, it really kind of got my mind thinking,
Starting point is 02:34:13 you know, like what if everyone's cell phone just exploded? Oh, I see what you're saying. This predictive programming, so somebody's going to do something. Wow, what a perfect opportunity. And we're going to be somebody, okay? Yeah, well it's happened before It has Yeah, they just said no the bazooka. Yeah, but it was unsuccessful Dropped it may not even happen for all I know I don't remember anything about it That means what a perfect place to change landed in the drink I mean come on What a perfect place they change. He landed in the drink. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 02:34:46 What a perfect place. How do they know it was a bazooka? Well, that's a... Consult the Book of Knowledge. All right, I guess we have to do some research on the show. Bazooka attack UN building, 1964. Let's see. Bazooka fired it. Yeah, there it is. The New York Times. It does mean it hasn't been placed after the fact.
Starting point is 02:35:10 I have the printed article in the New York Times archive. Even better. Bazooka fired at UN as Cuban speaks, launched in Queens, missile explodes in East River. How about that? Can you imagine how history would change? I mean, they can't stop a drone. Think about it. That would really change history. Well, you can have a drone. Yeah, the drone thing has not hit this country yet. It's bound to. Let's face it. No, but that is the future. It's the future of asymmetric warfare.
Starting point is 02:35:44 The UN Security Council met in New York to discuss the crisis in the Middle East No, but that is the future. It's the future of asymmetric warfare. The UN Security Council met in New York to discuss the crisis in the Middle East after four days of intensive Israeli attacks on Hezbollah. The organisation's human rights chief Volker Turk said he was appalled by what he called the indiscriminate targeting of thousands of people in Lebanon through the explosions of communication devices and said it violated international law. International humanitarian law prohibits the use of booby-trapped devices in the form of apparently harmless portable objects. Well that's no fun. Which are
Starting point is 02:36:17 specifically designed and constructed to contain explosive material. It is a war crime to commit violence intended to spread terror among civilians. I call again for an independent, thorough and transparent investigation into the circumstances of these explosions. Those who ordered and carried out these attacks must be held to account. The Undersecretary-General for Political Affairs Rosemary DiCarlo said that it wasn't too late for diplomacy. The risk to security and stability, not only in Lebanon, but also in the region, could
Starting point is 02:36:53 not be clearer or graver. The Secretary-General has already expressed his deep alarm over these events. I echo his sentiments and strongly urge all actors to exercise maximum restraint to avert any further escalation. Yeah, they're worried about themselves. I'm telling you, it wouldn't be hard to inject something into a whole new series of iPhones or anything. I think they're taking it very lightly this. Well, you might be right. I mean, yeah, all you need is a man in the middle. You need somebody just to get the, you know, somebody in between.
Starting point is 02:37:36 China? Anybody? To grab all these phones. These things are made in China. Hello? Yeah, well, you can just do it from the factory then, if you want. That's what I think. Definitely.
Starting point is 02:37:51 For all we know, every iPhone out there, for all we know. Already rigged. Is pre-rigged. Yep. You can't, unless you, can you take the battery out? Can you just pop the battery out and you can find out. Nope, nope, nope, not on the app. Well, that's an interesting coincidence.
Starting point is 02:38:13 The phone I have in the drawer, you can take the battery out. You have to, cause it dies after a couple of years in the drawer, put new batteries in it. I've got the Pixel 6 with the Graphene OS. I can take the battery out. Yeah. I still, I've seen all these different videos.
Starting point is 02:38:31 I have yet to see anyone explain the triggering mechanism. They're talking about, oh, you got a little Semtech in the back there, a little bit of you don't even need much. And it's in the behind the battery. There's still, you know, there's still some theories out there and I wish we would hear about it. I mean they kind of went away from the story. There's still some theories that it was PETN or Semtex in a battery.
Starting point is 02:38:58 We've, yeah, could be. But if it's in the battery, how do you trigger it? How do you have the explosion take place at the same time? Besides maybe it was the cotton of the rays from the solar flare, which is an interesting thesis because it did happen on the day that you lost your connection to a Starlink. I'm not sure how the solar flare would have would affect it, but it would, it could anything is possible. But but we but we don't know what is the mechanism for exploding these phones yeah i don't know the phone i mean it i mean you
Starting point is 02:39:33 triggers look there's lots of external pins that you can you can make go hot you can bring up a pin you know that is you know haptic there's there's haptics in there. There's vibration. These are motors. There's energy. So you can do all kinds of stuff with that. I would like to know exactly how you can make a phone explode. Well, I think you should talk to unit 8200. They seem, isn't 8200 the Israel or 8400? The Israel is 8600. Yeah, whatever. It's the Jews,600, isn't it? Whatever. It's the Jews, John. Hello.
Starting point is 02:40:07 It's obvious. We all know who did it. I would just like, I've seen all these guys yacking about this and then no one has explained how it works. Well, Trump spoke to the Jews. Well, Trump spoke to the Jews. Yes, he did. And of course, the right-left wingers went on and on about how Trump's going to blame the Jews.
Starting point is 02:40:34 Yeah, here it is. Trump has said Jews who support Democrats, quote, have to have their head examined and claimed Harris, quote, doesn't like Jewish people. Today, Harris's husband, second gentleman Doug Emhoff, himself Jewish, responding in an interview with ABC's Michael Strahan. He said this, quote, she doesn't like Jewish people. And you're Jewish American.
Starting point is 02:40:56 So what was your reaction when you heard that in real time? So it's typical Donald Trump gaslighting. So he is somebody who Trump gaslighting. So he is- Gaslighting? Somebody who has had dinner- Wait, wait. How's that gaslighting? Well, in context of the Jews,
Starting point is 02:41:13 it's a pretty interesting quote. Yo. Ha ha ha ha. So it's typical Donald Trump gaslighting. So he is somebody who has had dinner with known antisemites after the horrific events of Charlottesville where people were actually marching with tiki torches saying, Jews shall not replace us. And he said there were fine people on both sides of that.
Starting point is 02:41:38 Lie. There's the big lie. And he said there were very fine people on both sides. ...place us. And he said there very fine people on both sides place us and he said there were fine people on both sides that This is a guy who can they keep doing that? well, because it's easy and And the only people who say that's a lie is some two old dudes on a podcast who have hot takes even Snopes
Starting point is 02:42:02 Says it's a lie. Yeah, but this is the football guy on ABC. He's not going to say, Hey man, that's a lie. No. All of the media is skewed. It's all a lie. It should not be watched. It's not fit for consumption.
Starting point is 02:42:19 It's like impossible meat. He had a record of saying incredibly vile, anti-semitic things. So for him to say that, I just... Yeah, trolls make a good point. That, what he just did there, is literally gaslighting. Right, that's gaslighting. What you say is yourself.
Starting point is 02:42:39 Oh, there it is, the old, you are what I say you are. What you say is yourself, but your head is half. March was marching with tiki torches saying Jews shall not replace us. And he said there were fine people on both sides of that. This is a guy who has had a record of saying incredibly vile anti-semitic things. So for him to say that... What vile anti-semitic things has he said? There are fine people on both sides. For him to say that, I just almost laugh at how the chutzpah, as we would say, is gasoline. Now while Harris's event with Oprah here in Detroit is aimed at a broader audience, her campaign is well aware of just how critical this state is.
Starting point is 02:43:29 A new Quinnipiac poll shows Harris leading slightly here in Michigan, 50 to 45%. Meanwhile, at the latest Trump rally, he's got some new shtick to motivate people to go out and vote. Have you heard his new shtick? No, I have not. I've heard them all ears. Okay, here it's very short, but you will like it. We can do all of this and more, but patriotic New Yorkers must get your
Starting point is 02:43:52 asses out to vote. Harry, get up, Harry. Harry, get your fat ass out of the couch. You're gonna vote for Trump today, Harry. Get up, Harry. Come on, let's go. Let's go, Harry. Actually, I have heard that. It's not that new. That's good. I hadn't heard that one yet. It's great.
Starting point is 02:44:19 I like it. I like it. Yeah, it's hilarious. They're eating the dogs. Yeah, they are. Exactly. I don't know if you had a clip about this, but I thought it was noteworthy. It seems to kind of just being reported on and passing.
Starting point is 02:44:34 It seems like a bigger story to me. Actually, let me see. I think you have two clips. Do you have the second moon? Do you have a second moon clip? I have two clips and I have a yikes series. Okay, there you go. Which means that there's something, there's a piece of information in here that made me
Starting point is 02:44:53 go yikes. Earth has a new visitor in space. It's an asteroid named 2024 PT5. Catchy. As the asteroid was whizzing by on its path around the sun, the Earth's gravity disrupted it, and the space rock and the Earth are now in a fleeting gravitational dance. Scientists spotted the space rock last month using a telescope in South Africa. That telescope is part of the NASA-funded Asteroid Terrestrial Impact Last Alert System. And while that name sounds pretty dire, there's no need to worry. This asteroid is not on a collision course with Earth. What is, what's the acronym
Starting point is 02:45:29 to that? Hold on a second. I'll dance. Scientists spotted the space rock last month using a telescope in South Africa. That telescope is part of the NASA funded Asteroid Terrestrial Impact Last Alert system. and well that name sounds pretty Attila Now those NASA guys. Okay. So what was the yikes? They spotted this asteroid Just a month ago. How much time would that give you if it was headed right to earth? 30 days they can't get these guys off the Shuttle that went up the Boeing shuttle they went up and dropped these people off. They couldn't even bring them back.
Starting point is 02:46:08 We got 30 days? They had this whole system in place to look for asteroids headed for Earth and they spotted this thing 30 days ago. Yeah, maybe it's time for Mythbusters to come in. I don't know. I don't think they know anything. Well, here's part two. At least they describe a little bit more of the asteroid, the size of a bus.
Starting point is 02:46:32 Writing this month in the journal Research Notes of the American Astronomical Society, scientists estimate the asteroid is 33 feet long, about the size of a bus. And sorry, backyard astronomers, it'll be too small and dim to see with amateur telescopes. And while the space rock has picked up the nickname of a mini moon tracing a temporary arc around the Earth, there's some disagreement whether it truly lives up to that title because it won't make a full orbit around our planet before departing again in the coming months to continue its journey around the sun. Wow. It kind of reminds me of that John Cullen guy. The bird flu guy?
Starting point is 02:47:13 No. Yeah. That's the guy who said it was about H1-5N or whatever. It wasn't about COVID. That's why Trump was talking about 1917 instead of 1918. He also has this whole theory that all of the emergency hospitals were built because there were so many asteroids all of a sudden flying around the earth that they expected one to hit the earth. He's got some pretty out there theories. That's a good one.
Starting point is 02:47:43 He's got some hot takes. Speaking of, speaking of Boeing, who can't bring anybody back. Boeing's Defense Space and Security Division has a new temporary president and CEO. The company ousted Theodore Colbert and replaced him with Chief Operating Officer Steve Parker. Boeing has been under increased scrutiny after the Starliner capsule experienced that thruster malfunction and stranded two astronauts on the International Space Station. Yeah, bye. Can't bring our astronauts back.
Starting point is 02:48:15 Can't keep anything going. You're out. You're done. You're done. And that Boeing strike still continues. When is Musk going to announce that he's taking over all the Boeing business? Oh, it's going to be a while. So there's the West Wing, the old TV show. Yeah. Well, they're bringing it back, at least they're bringing the cast back. It's the dream.
Starting point is 02:48:43 This is what all Democrats want. They want the White House to be the cast back. It's the dream. This is what all Democrats want. They want the White House to be like West Wing. That's the way it should be. So they brought, on an anniversary, they brought him to the White House because Jill Biden, and if anyone hasn't noticed this, seems to be running things the way Woodrow Wilson's wife did.
Starting point is 02:49:02 In fact, she was at the cabinet meeting. Yes. And Joe threw it to her. Woodrow Wilson's wife did. In fact, she was at the cabinet meeting. And Joe threw it to her. Is that in this clip? No. Oh, I actually have, um, I thought I had a, uh, I thought a clip of that. I, I didn't get the Joe throwing it to her, but I got the explanation as to what she was doing because remember she's a doctor, Jim. It'll be Jill Biden, Dr. Biden, the first lady in attendance today as well.
Starting point is 02:49:28 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is an important and interesting cabinet meeting because of who is not there, which was vice president Harris, obviously, who has her campaign schedule. But then because of the spotlight that the first lady did have, she talked about the fact that sometimes the White House in her words surprises you. And for somebody who has worked on women's health issues for her whole career, frankly, as a teacher, but also as the second lady and now as the first lady, she said-
Starting point is 02:49:52 Since when has she worked on women's health issues for her whole career? That's what I'd like to know. I never heard this. But, you know, I think that just conflating Dr. Biden was like, oh, she's worked on women's health issues for her whole career. Yeah, like Whoopi did when she thought that Dr. Biden should be the surgeon general. Where is that cliff? Whoopi, Dr. Biden. Let me see. I have it somewhere. Whoopi, Jill, I think. Let me see. Dr. I guess not. We had it. I know it's disappointing. What can I say? I'm disappointed. So let's play the West Wing clip. Yes, let's do that. The West
Starting point is 02:50:37 Wing is celebrating its 25th anniversary this week and here's Chloe Veltman reports. Actors and producers from the hit political TV drama marked the occasion at the White House yesterday at the invitation of First Lady Jill Biden. During his speech in the White House Rose Garden, West Wing creator Aaron Sorkin said his show about a principled fictional U.S. president played by Martin Sheen was, quote, idealistic, aspirational, aspir aspirational aspirational and romantic over the years I've noticed that during times of peak political tension pundits will warn us not to expect a West Wing moment they mean not to expect a
Starting point is 02:51:15 selfless act of statesmanship not to expect anyone to put country first don't expect anyone to swing for the fences or reach for the stars however Sorkin said President Joe Biden's decision not to run for a second term proves that West Wing moments are indeed possible in real life. The West Wing ran on NBC from 1999 to 2006. Oh man, it's the dream. Jill brought them in. Yeah, she's running the place. Does she have the nuclear codes? Probably. That's the question we all have on our minds. Does she have the nuclear codes? I have a
Starting point is 02:51:52 clip here called Debate Nonsense Slant. There's another NPR clip. Sorry. Vice President Harris's campaign says she accepted an invitation to a second debate with former President Trump. But as MPH's Don Gagnev reports, Trump says that's not going to happen. Former President Trump reacted to the news that the Harris campaign is agreeing to do a second debate by telling a rally in Wilmington, North Carolina that, quote, it's just too late. And he accused Harris of wanting to do another debate
Starting point is 02:52:29 because, as Trump put it, her campaign is going, quote, badly. Again, he rejected the idea of another debate saying he's done two already. Yeah. Well, just back to- And by the way, this debate, they wanted to do another one on CNN. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:52:48 That's- Harris won't do one on Fox where they actually have somebody that might be objective like Brett Baer. I want to go back to Eleanor Biden for a moment. Maybe she's the one that pulled the trigger on stealing the Russians' money. They finally did it. On diplomatic visits, almost every detail sends some kind of message, like the flowers given to Ursula von der Leyen as she arrived in Kiev.
Starting point is 02:53:20 The president of the European Commission visited a memorial for those killed in the war and inspected generators offered by Europe. Ukraine's power grid is at the heart of her visit. Europe has pledged a 35 billion euro loan. One of its main goals is to repair Ukraine's energy network. The European Union is here to help you in this challenge. To keep the lights on, to keep your people warm as winter is just around the corner, and to keep your economy going as you fight for your survival.
Starting point is 02:53:57 Roughly half of Ukraine's energy infrastructure has been destroyed in the war. It's one of the key targets. President Vladimir Zelensky says the loan granted by the EU will also be used for weapons, for the air defense and for shelters. The loan is part of a 50 billion dollar package from G7 countries. Profits from frozen Russian assets will be used as collateral. For Russia's government, this amounts to stealing. It's no exaggeration to say that these facts of large-scale theft of Russian assets will finally nullify the authority and trust of the international community in the European Union.
Starting point is 02:54:39 That's right. Put your trust in our money networks. Don't worry about it. This idiotic is dumb. What is not dumb is what's coming up after we're done today. We do have some more show for you. A live battle of the bands, Value for Value, Battle of the Bands, the Satellite Skirmish is coming up, so you do not want to tune away when that comes up right after we play our
Starting point is 02:55:19 end of show mixes. We also have some meetup reports. We have our Commodores we're welcoming on board and we have some people to thank for supporting us with some value for value. We do. We don't have that many. We have about 20. Okay. Ryan Perussi, Perussi, Perussi is the top of the list. He's in Perusse, Perusse is the top of the list. He's in San Diego.
Starting point is 02:55:45 Hold on a second. My eyes itchy. 13333. And he says, I will read his notes. I've got that many. Fellas, you guys have changed my life and many friends. You changed my life and changed my friends. His friends have run away from him probably.
Starting point is 02:56:05 Yeah, okay. Well, he's promoting the show, which is good. Ian Field, parts are known as $100. Henry Davis in St. Petersburg, Florida. Another guy from St. Petersburg. $100. He needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched.
Starting point is 02:56:29 Brian Lillard in Prosper, Texas, 88, 88. Ah, then we're already to Kevin McLaughlin in Conquer North Carolina. He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs at 8008 along with Aaron Weisberg in Weiberg, Weiberg in Roberts, Wisconsin, 8008. And then we already jump way down from T to less Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona It was 6006 first time that's ever happened Wow We get from big boobs of small boobs boom boom boom boobs boob-a-thon Sir Chris Abraham in Arlington, Virginia, okay 60 Sir Chris Abraham in Arlington, Virginia. Okay. 60.
Starting point is 02:57:06 Matthew Martel in Brumel, Pennsylvania. 58, 56. You've got to read this one. Sorry, fellas, I can't afford your CPM. I can only swing a CPT. Visit MartelHardware.com. Use coupon code blamepaypal for 10% off your order. Okay. Let's push that up to the $200 mark. Matthew? Yeah, please. James Fraterish. Fraterish in McFarland, Wisconsin, 5510. I read his note.
Starting point is 02:57:50 Your show is neat-o. There's a term I haven't heard for a while. It's neat-o, baby. It's neat-o. I would assume it's Japanese. By the way, congratulations to Ono Sato for winning the sumo competition. The second time he's won the award in the last three years is a young guy He'll be up to Ozeki within no time
Starting point is 02:58:11 He's gonna be Ozeki next year or next tournament. This guy is the next Yokozuna Well, I will be saying it to the bank. I will be celebrating with sir Mark and day mastered in a week and a half Yeah, well, I'm sure they're aware of this. He won it the day before the term was even over. He had too many wins. Wow. Yeah, I'm sure you're thrilled. Dame Nancy in San Bruno, California, 54.
Starting point is 02:58:36 Mark Hardwick in Aledo, Texas, 53-33. Leslie Wilbur in Loxahatchee, Florida, 5272. Paul Hobbs in Canoogra. He's in Canoogra, Queensland, Australia, 5272. Canungra. I think it's Canungra. Canungra? Canungra?
Starting point is 02:58:59 Could be. I think so. Forrest Scott Brinkley in North Carolina, 5272. These are all $50 donors actually. Stephen Crummey in El C North Carolina, 5272. These are all $50 donors actually. Stephen Crummey in El Cajon, 5272. Forrest Martin, 5005. And now we got the $50 donors and there's only one, two, three, four, five of them.
Starting point is 02:59:17 It's that low, it's that bad. Thank God for the Commodores. Nicholas Arutowich in Harper's Ferry, West Virginia, sorry. Michael Sycora in New Richmond, Wisconsin. Deborah Cornyn in Pinscher Creek, Alberta, Canada. And she says she's in the Barbados. Dame Flying Fish, as a matter of fact. Jimmy Rowe in Warrington, Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 02:59:47 And last on our short list is Dan Wirick in Corpus Christi, Texas. And he has a call out, Hank is a douchebag. And that's our group of well-wishers and supporters and producers for show 1697. Value for value. That's the only way that we make it work here at the No Agenda Show. So please support the show, noagendadonations.com. Gonna roll out of karma for those who just might need it.
Starting point is 03:00:15 You've got karma. Again, noagendadonations.com. It's your birthday, birthday. On No Agenda. Well, how about that? It's your birthday, birthday I'll know what you're doing Well, how about that? Today is Buzzkill Jr.'s birthday Congratulations, Buzzkill Jr. As Serpent in the Troll Room turns 35 today
Starting point is 03:00:35 And tomorrow, Sir Bemrose Who doesn't know him from the Troll Room in the screen? We'll be celebrating his birthday And his wedding anniversary Happy birthday and congratulations to everybody Here at the best podcast in the universe. So I think we should do our Commodores first probably or should we do a night? Sure. I'll do the Commodores.
Starting point is 03:00:56 Okay, so this is all new everybody. So the whole idea is that we welcome our new Commodores. We need to get them all positioned up here on the stage because we're about to hand them out. We say congratulations to Commodore Gizmo, Commodore Kulabenko, Commodore Helmer, and Commodore Crimby! Welcome to our new Commodores! What do you think? It's good. It's good. You could have one other element. I'm not sure what. Okay.
Starting point is 03:01:23 I'm not complaining. Shall we have a meeting after the show? God no. Just do what you're doing. It's good. It's good. You could have one other element. I'm not sure what. Okay. Not complaining. Shall we have a meeting after the show? God no. Just do what you're doing. It's fine. Okay. Give me your blade. We got one night to bring up on this day. There's one. We'll take that one. Christian Friedman, please step on up here. You, sir, I believe you are layaway and then you just add a little bit on top. We are very, very happy about that and very proud to pronounce the K-Dias, our new knight,
Starting point is 03:01:48 Sir Crimby of the San Marcos River. For you we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay and by request a glass of orange juice and Ray Pete's carrot salad. Yum! Who doesn't love it? Also, Ruben-esque women in rosé, geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong, hits and bourbon, sparkling cider, nesquare, ginger ale Nsake, Vodka and Vanilla, Bong, Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider, Nesquik, Ginger, Ellen Gerbils, Breast Milk and Pablum.
Starting point is 03:02:09 And as always for all the Knights and the Dames at the round table we have a nice helping of Mutton and Mead. So you brand new Sir Crimby, head over to NoAgendaRings.com. Go ahead and take a look at that lovely, lovely, lovely ring. It's a Cygnet ring. If you give us your ring size,
Starting point is 03:02:25 which you can do with a handy ring sizing guide on that website, send it off to us and we'll give you the ring. We'll send that off to you along with some wax to seal your important correspondence with because there is a Cygnet ring and as always a certificate of authenticity. Once again, welcome to the roundtable, Sir Crimby of the San Marcos River. No one should know Meetup's It's not your money Everybody's getting excited for the Meetup here in Fredericksburg, Texas on October 18th. Reminder that if you are bringing a donation, put it in an envelope with a note and with your name please because that's the very difficult if we can't remember who gave what we take on the spot donations that'll be October 18th in Fredericksburg right now though we have a meter per port from the
Starting point is 03:03:16 September 19th Denver shindig hey folks Denver meetup this is cousin Vito let Let's see if Uncle Morishi wants to talk. Uncle Morishi, you want to say anything to everybody? Oi, den vermita. Uncle Morishi, ver armos en square. I, I, no, I can't do it. I'm sorry, boys. Introduction to the Mormon shixas. Care Bear. The not so secret lives of ex-Mormon ex-wives, Colorado Care Bear.
Starting point is 03:03:49 Hey, this is Nate. Second meetup, still not a spook. This is Josh Susumption coming in from North Aurora, Colorado, and we are turning in all of our boof wangs. We are going to get them inspected for any explosives that may be inside. Oh, they're editing the comedy right in.
Starting point is 03:04:09 In San Diego, here's their meetup report. Hey, John and Adam, this is Sir Mike at the monthly meetup here in Rancho Bernardo, San Diego. ITM, let me pass this around. This is Sir Matthew, Black Knight of the Ice Giants, or you may know me in the value versus Matt the Tall. I'll be performing in the second Satellite Skirmish on Sunday the 22nd. Coming up. So if you want to come and spend some sats, watch some cool music, check it out. This is Sir Jofty. I still need to come up with a funny tagline. I don't have one, but I did just have some delicious roast cat and mutt. Hello from Taylor and a future human resource on the way in the morning.
Starting point is 03:04:46 Kelly, Dame of the crushed crepes. In the morning just had a little pizza with some geese on it. I see I'm John and Adam. This is Dame Mon. Love you mean it. Adam and John, hey it's Victor on my way to being a sir. And bring back the good new segment and four more years is not enough. All right, on three, ITM. One, two, three. ITM.
Starting point is 03:05:10 In San Diego, thank you for reporting in. We have meetups taking place today. One actually at Margarita's Keen, that is in Keen, New Hampshire. It's the toomanyeggs.com meetup, number six. On Thursday, our next showday, the North Georgia Monthly at six o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. And on the way in the next couple of months, we have Rich in Washington, Tilburg, the Netherlands, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Picton, Ontario, Camp Hill, Pennsylvania, Indianapolis, Indiana, Bay City, Michigan, Keene, New Hampshire, again, Fredericksburg, Texas, October 18th, be there, Curry and the Keeper will be there. Bedford, Texas, Okeechobee, Florida, Ottawa, Ontario, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Emoryville, California, Bastrop, Texas, Ocala, Florida, Sacramento, California, West Palm Beach, Florida,
Starting point is 03:05:56 and Adventura, Florida. Many more meetups that you can find at NoAgendaMeetups.com. You have not lived until you've been to a NoAgenda Meetup. It's that simple. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself and start living today. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you won't be, triggered or held to blame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party.
Starting point is 03:06:29 Oh man, I'm glad you brought some ISOs because I have a very, I only have one offering and I don't think it's any good. I don't think it's any good. I'll play mine. Let's move on to marijuana. No, see, I don't like it. It's no good. That's it? That's it. That's all I I don't like it. It's no good. That's it?
Starting point is 03:06:45 That's it. That's all I got. I'm sorry. I spent time on AI stuff. I have three. I do have one that's a little long and probably not usable, but since I had to find this guy rough head, a Navy guy, now I have a woman whose name is Hancock and she says the following. Can't get it out fast enough because our hands are so busy in that moment.
Starting point is 03:07:12 Yeah, it's too long and too suggestive. It's very suggestive, but I couldn't figure out what she's talking about. Okay, let's go with welcome. You're welcome. Always a winner. Always a winner. Always a winner. Always a winner. Always a winner.
Starting point is 03:07:27 And then no big deal. Yeah, well, it's no big deal. Wow. I don't know if I like, you're welcome better or... You're welcome. I think you're welcome is good. It's just short, simple. All right, it's clean. All right, everybody.
Starting point is 03:07:39 It's time once again for that favorite segment, John's Tip of the Day. And before you start with your tip of the day, I did want to mention that we now have a website tipoftheday.net where all of John's tips of the day are located. Also, noagendafun.com, let me just check if that is, yes, noagendafun.com, which has a lot of fun stuff about the show, is now also including the tip of the day. So, noagendafun.com and tipoftheday.net. John, let's add another entry. Okay, so we have people who use Twitter a lot.
Starting point is 03:08:23 Everyone's, now it's becoming video-centric. And so there is a product, and it's an online product called Twittervid.com. And I've looked at these different Twitter video downloaders. You put the URL of the post that's got the video right into this thing It downloads it in high-def it usually gives you two or three options of how you want to download you download It saves it as an mp3 that you can now post on LinkedIn or you can send it as email attachments. It's It's great for these videos that you watch and you go, oh, this isn't going to be up here long. You download it using Twittervid.com.
Starting point is 03:09:10 MP4, I presume, not an MP3. I am sorry, MP4. Exactly, you're right. So then what can you do with that? You can then upload it to other places? Yeah, you can upload it to, I said, LinkedIn, or you can use it in the email attachment. Yep.
Starting point is 03:09:23 You can do all kinds of stuff with it. Or you can repost it on email attachment. Yep. You can do all kinds of stuff with it. Or you can repost it on Twitter as though you discovered it. Or create some entropy and upload it to Notebook LM. What could possibly go wrong? Are you looking for good advice? Perhaps something practical or something you really need? Try the new agenda tip of the day.
Starting point is 03:09:43 Professional quality tips from the best podcast in the universe. That's right, tip of the day professional quality tips from the best podcast in the universe. That's right tip of the day every single end of show right here before we go to our end of show mixes which today includes let me see we have Jesse Coy Nelson we've got David Kekta and we have Billy Bones checking in. Does it get any better than that? I don't think so. And as promoted earlier, coming up next, right after we disconnect from the stream, we have a live value for value battle of the bands, boost them directly. It is the satellite skirmish autumn rust.
Starting point is 03:10:21 That's going to be awesome. I'm sure. I said in my best Oprah voice. Woo! And of course, we will be back on Thursday to bring you more of your media deconstruction, to show you that it's all just a big show. Don't worry about it. Go touch the grass, rub your face on the cement.
Starting point is 03:10:43 Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where once again the fog's rolling in. As usual, I'm John C. DeVore. Remember us for our next show. Support us value for value at NoAgendaDonations.com. Enjoy the sunlight skirmish until Thursday. Adios,
Starting point is 03:11:05 mofos, a hooey hooey and such. He seems to make a distinction between mail-in ballot and absentee ballot, but there's no such distinction. They're the same thing. Did the dead get ballots? Take a look at thousands of pieces of mail that never made it to Portland homes and businesses please tell us a postal worker was the one stealing it. That's very frightening to think that I can't mail something here and it's gonna be okay. Osborne blames it on his meth addiction which contributed to his inability to deliver the mail. Put your mask on, line up, and vote like we always do.
Starting point is 03:11:47 How many postal workers are caught and what's being done to prevent theft at your post office? Hey! Oh, yes, wait a minute, Mr. Bozeman. Hey! Hey, hey, hey, hey, Mr. Bozeman. So, Jamie Lee Curtis believes that Donald Trump is attempting to steal the election and I assume the mail-in ballots by hiring tow truck drivers to haul away mail vans that she believes are full of Democrat ballots?
Starting point is 03:12:14 By tampering with the postal service, he is in effect putting his knee on the neck of American democracy. Donald Trump is stealing the election. But you may face a phony charge if you attempt to vote twice, that is by mail and also in person. But they raid the mailboxes. They can even print ballots. They get the same paper, the same machine, nothing special.
Starting point is 03:12:35 Amazon is going to pay for the post office. That's a 3D delivery. That's a 3D delivery. Excuse me, delivery. I and Tim Rols are both gun owners. We will not take anybody's guns away. We also need to have reasonable gun safety laws. I believe that we need an assault weapons ban.
Starting point is 03:12:56 We need universal background checks. We need red flag laws. I'm a gun owner Tim Roll Tim. I didn't know that. If anybody breaks into my house again, shot. Fire two blasts outside the house. We want to ban assault weapons and they want to ban books. Extremists attack our freedom to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence.
Starting point is 03:13:11 I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence.
Starting point is 03:13:19 I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence. I want to live safe from gun violence attack our freedom to live safe from gun violence. I want to emphasize we are over two months of course since Butler. Do you know that the Secret Service still has not given Congressional investigators
Starting point is 03:13:37 the documented evidence we have been asking for for two months? Two months since Trump was shot in the face. Now he has been shot at or nearly so again. And still, Secret Service is stonewalling right down to this hour. I mean, what is going on here? They need to level with us. Let's try this. Or mic check, mic check. We have a saying in the Netherlands. Dit wat je zegt bij jezelf met je kop door de helft.
Starting point is 03:14:10 You accuse others that of what you are guilty of. Oh. Yeah. Mic check. Wat je zegt bij jezelf met je kop door de helft. Yeah. We have a saying in the Netherlands. Or Mic Check Mic Check. What you say is yourself with your head through the hell.
Starting point is 03:14:35 You accuse others that of what you are guilty of. Boom. Yeah. Mic Check Mic Check. What you say is yourself with your head through the hell. Yeah. Mic check, mic check. What you say, Bains elf, with your head through the helft. Like you and Bains elf magic, open older, helpless grammar. Nailed it! The best podcast in the universe! MoFo
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