No Agenda - 1699 - "Entomophagy"

Episode Date: September 29, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's over the hill. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, September 29th, 2024. This is your award winning give on Asian media, Assassination episode 1699. This is No Agenda. Celebrating climate week and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill country
Starting point is 00:00:18 right here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all saying, stop advertising and promoting gambling I'm John C. DeVorek. I hear it's very bad for people. Yeah, I've heard that too. It's like it gets people all addicted and then they lose all their money. Yeah. Yeah. But Mimi used to, Mimi used to, when she was younger, was a kid high school,
Starting point is 00:00:53 I guess she used to live in Reno. Oh boy. She's and she says she shot a man in Reno just to watch him die. Didn't she? She remembers these new kids that would come into the high school. Yeah. And then they, within six months, one or two of the parents had a gambling, immediately picked up a gambling habit.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Oh yeah, gambling addiction. Sure. And they had to leave the city, they had to move back to California, Iowa, wherever they came from because they were because they just went broke. She was so pathetic. She lost a lot of friends. They'd have some friends and the next thing you know, they had to move out of the state because they couldn't maintain a normal life.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I'm glad that you're sharing this with us so everybody can check themselves. Check yourself, people. Well, I got why I said this is because I'm watching the football stuff today, in the morning before the game started and they have all these different analysts come on and they're all recommending various bets. This is on the sports shows. Oh, they're just doing it in the content of the show itself now. Yes, it's gone that bad. They have draft kings and all these couple of things three these gambling operations And they're it's not even legal in California, but still really and they're they're just promoting bets
Starting point is 00:02:10 They're promoting people to throw money away. Do they have prop bets my favorite prop? Yes, prop bets mostly prop and almost everything's a prop bet. Hey, are they coming to take you away? What's with all the sirens? I don't know. You know, this is been it it's been like living in New York. Because Kamala was in town. I don't know what it is, but there's a lot of sirens of late. Yeah. You know, Kamala was in town and it was, it was, it was quite the spectacle. Yes, I saw the, I maybe have some clips. I do. I saw, I saw the news coverage, it's pathetic. Vice President Kamala Harris is here, but her trip tonight into San Francisco
Starting point is 00:02:50 might have had an obstacle or two. Our crews spotted a Waymo vehicle that had to be driven away from the motorcade route by police. Vice President Kamala Harris makes what could be her final visit to California before the election. A little after 8.30 Friday evening, the VP touched down at SFO. As her motorcade arrived at the Fairmont San Francisco,
Starting point is 00:03:11 an autonomous Waymo got stuck making a turn. A San Francisco police officer had to manually drive the vehicle out of the way. That's great. Some Waymo advertisement there. That's good. That's good. Yeah. And I guess she went to the border. Was that the California-Mexico border that she went to? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I thought it was Arizona. Oh, I just presumed that it was California. That was yesterday, I think. And it was like, it was a nothing burger kind of. Oh, you said nothing burger. I think and it was like it was a nothing burger kind of Nothing burger. No, I did Purpose oh And so she goes there and then she starts blaming Trump for all the border issues Yes, this is well she I have this short clip
Starting point is 00:04:02 Where this is just one of those unbelievable things that she says. It's great. Earlier in the day, Harris made her first trip to the border in Arizona in years. Harris expressed a tougher stance on illegal immigration. She spoke with local border patrol leaders as they walked along the wall. There are consequential issues at stake in this election and one is the security of our border The United States is a sovereign nation And I believe we have a duty to set rules at our border and to enforce them
Starting point is 00:04:39 You know the funny thing about that I didn't get there I saw that clip I should have grabbed it I'm glad you did because I'm giving you clip of the day because that is unbelievable. Oh, thank you Well, well I have clips I think can outdo it I don't think so well I mean this morning you not to the height of hypocrisy Oh, no, no, no, no not and by the way for people who tune in like hey I listen to that No Agenda show sounds like they got an agenda. Uh, yes, we're against, um, idiots.
Starting point is 00:05:12 We're against liars. Liars and idiots. Uh, which, uh, former president Trump takes it to the next level. This is the clip that was being played all morning on the M5M. Joe Biden became mentally impaired. Kamala was born that way. So of course, none of them played it in context, which we will do now. Which we will do.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yes, of course. Borders are Harris went to the border to lie in the most shameless and horrible way possible at the very site where she released so much suffering, misery and death. There's no greater act of disloyalty than to extinguish the sovereignty of your own nation right through your border. No matter what lies she tells, Kamala Harris can never be forgiven for her erasing our border and she must never be allowed to become President of the United States. She must never be allowed. That's over 647,572 migrant criminals who Kamala set loose to rape, pillage,
Starting point is 00:06:25 thieve, plunder, and kill the people of the United States of America. And they're not going to change. They're only going to get worse. They're only going to get worse. And our law enforcement system, we have the greatest in the world, but our people are told not to do their jobs. You know, we don't want you to do anything. And they come from tough systems. They're going to do their jobs. We don't want you to do anything. And they come from tough systems. They're going to love our system. Kamala is mentally impaired.
Starting point is 00:06:51 If a Republican did what she did, that Republican would be impeached and removed from office. And rightfully so, Joe Biden became mentally impaired. Kamala was born that way. She was born that way. And if you think about it, only a mentally disabled person could have allowed this to happen to our country. Anybody would know this. Yeah. So a little more context makes it better.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I thought it was a much better clip in context. Oh, of course it is. It also makes more sense, but that's not what they do. That's not what the media does. And by the way, just because, you know, there's always people who say, yo Trump, he never lies, right? He never lies.
Starting point is 00:07:52 You must have got some nasty email this morning. No, that's just the troll room. What are you talking about? I don't even need to see the email. I want to mention something that since you brought that into that clip, which is the number of, you know, I guess somebody in ICE decided to release these numbers of known criminals that have been released into the country, hundreds of thousands basically. And so this morning, you know, because this is based on a note somebody sent me early this morning actually about how
Starting point is 00:08:26 Margaret Hoover is actually kind of a not really a conservative and she's interviewing Hillary in a new oh, yeah I haven't seen it yet in the front line front line interview. Yeah Firing line she needs to Lay off the lip gloss Well, Hoover has always been kind of a bogus conservative. She's old, some old school style. I'm just saying, just as a production, television production tip, back off on the lip gloss, Hoover.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It looks creepy. Well, she's creepy. Yeah. So maybe you're projecting. Okay. Okay. She's creepy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Pretty but creepy. The other one in this category, and I should mention because it's a pet peeve of mine, is Shannon Bream. Yes. Who I always thought was one of the prettiest girls on Fox ever. But she's exactly, and once she gets off of Fox, I'm telling you she's going to turn into another Margaret Hoover. Because I was watching today, she was interviewing a Senator from Georgia and they brought up this issue of all these criminals that are released into the country and out of the blue, and I didn't get a clip because it was still done, finished.
Starting point is 00:09:36 But she did say, she said, oh, well, that doesn't take into account all of those that have been incarcerated. Just what? Just, just this comment. And it was like, why are you even, what does that got to do with anything? And she's, and, and Bream was the one that was on... From now on, we'll call her the Bream Queen. Bream was on Gutfeld and they, they were talking about, uh,
Starting point is 00:10:02 lawfare and how these five cases against Trump all kind of happened at the same time with all a bunch of people that had quit the Justice Department and gone to these different areas to all do this all at once at indictments of Trump. And Bremer, no, no, there's no way that's a coincidence. That's just a coincidence. What? And this is the- Really? What is she doing?
Starting point is 00:10:27 She is an agent provocateur. She should not be at Fox at all, but she's got this nice smile and she looks like a Fox girl. That's why she's at Fox. We know Fox is no good. It's no better than the rest. Run by Democrats. That's your basic thesis.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yes. Yes, I know. I'm just trying to... I'm normalizing the concept that she's, you know, that, yeah, I agree at a base level that Slex is no good. Anyway, that was a pet peeve of mine. I got it out of the system. And unfortunately, when Trump went through that list, he forgot to say they rob. And they forgot- They're eating the rob. He forgot, and they forgot.
Starting point is 00:11:05 They're eating the dogs. He should just throw that in from time to time. I miss that. Have you seen the TikToks of all these girls dancing to a mix of they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats? I've seen different mixes of they're eating the cats, eating the dogs, but I haven't seen the girls dancing to it because I'm not on TikTok, John. That's your beat.
Starting point is 00:11:24 You're a TikTok dipshit dancers. Is that like the solid gold dancers, the TikTok dipshit dancers? Yeah, exactly, it's a new version. So right on cue with this news that there's over 600,000 criminals, Aurora, Colorado, I guess they put out a press release and I guess they haven't or from what I understand
Starting point is 00:11:46 they have a new police guy? Like did they throw out the old guy and we missed that because I think in this report it says there's a new police chief. I didn't hear this either. Oh well, so listen to how they downplay the apartment complex issue. Good evening and thank you for joining us for Denver 7 News at 5 on this Friday. I'm Jessica Porter. And I'm Jason Grenour.
Starting point is 00:12:07 First, Aurora officials are threatening to close two apartment complexes over safety concerns. They say include an uptick in crime and deterioration. Denver 7's Veronica Costa got the internal communications where officials recommend the management company addresses. Internal communications. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's a leak. where officials recommend the management company addresses the quote criminal nuisance or face the consequences. It's criminal nuisance. See, it's in our internal communications. It's not TDA, it's no gang, it's just criminal nuisance. Two apartment complexes in Aurora with dozens of people living in them could suffer the same fate as the apartments on 1568 Nome Street, which was shut down weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:12:54 The edge of Lowry and 200 Columbia apartment complexes are the target of two letters signed by Aurora's new chief of police Todd Chamberlain, deeming them quote, criminal nuisance properties in violation of Aurora city code. The letters sent last Friday point to an uptick in violent crime in the physical condition of the properties as public safety concerns, saying they could close as soon as September 30th if conditions continue. Yeah, it's a nuisance.
Starting point is 00:13:21 It's just a criminal nuisance. I like the way they downplay it. That was actually quite good. Well, that's what you do with it when an internal communication suddenly winds up at the six o'clock local news on Denver 7. I mean, yeah, of course, it's a criminal nuisance. The real nuisance, which I'm so happy I got a clip of this because I've only been hearing about it and been seeing the headlines.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And this is about the looming strike, which would kick off on Tuesday of the longshoreman. The longshoremen. Oh, that one. That's a bad one. And yes, it is quite bad. And I found on the, what's up with shipping podcast, which of course I subscribe to my modern podcast. Kudos. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:11 The guy's actually good. There's a couple of these. There's an ag show, like What's Up with Agriculture this week. This is where you get some decent news. And the What's Up with Shipping podcast, they didn't have the guy on, but they had an interview with the union president, the East Gulf Coast Longshoremen Union. And so two clips, the first one is a little, the second one is short. The union president explains, first of all, why they They want they're going on strike and seems like it's still unresolved at this hour. It's still unresolved. So anything could change
Starting point is 00:14:52 And what that will mean, but today's world it's changing into the future They're not making millions no more and making billions and they're spending it fast as they make it. I want a piece of that for my men, because when they made their most money was during COVID. When my men had to go to work on those beers every single day, when everybody stayed home and went to work, not my men. They died out there with the virus. We all got sick with the virus.
Starting point is 00:15:23 We kept them going. From Canada, the main of Texas, Great Lakes, Puerto Rico, now the Bahamas, everybody went to work during COVID. Nobody stayed home. Well, I want to be compensated for that. I'm not asking for the world. They know what I want. They know what I want.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And if they don't, well, then I have to go into the streets and we have to fight for what we rightfully deserve. These people today don't know what a Shrike is. When my men hit the streets from Maine to Texas, every single port will lock down. You know what's going to happen? I'll tell you. First week, be all over the news every nine boom boom. Second week, guys who sell cars can't sell cars because the cars ain't coming in off the ships. They get laid off. Third week, malls start closing down.
Starting point is 00:16:21 They can't get the goods from China. They can't sell clothes. They can't do this. Everything in the United States comes on a ship. Yeah, but wait, there's more and a threat at the end. They go out of business. Construction workers get laid off because the materials aren't coming in. The steel is not coming in. The lumber is not coming in. They lose their job. Everybody... By the way, does this guy sound like George Carlin or what? You know, I was wondering who he sounded like and I didn't catch that that angle of it. Yes. The Steel's not coming in. The Lumber's not coming in. They lose their job. Everybody's hating the longshoremen
Starting point is 00:17:06 now because now they realize how important our jobs are. Now I have the president screaming at me, I'm putting a Taff Harley on you. Go ahead. Taff Harley means I have to go back to work for 90 days. That's a cooling off period. Do you think when I go back for 90 days, those men are going to go to work on that pier? It's gonna cost the company's money to pay their salaries while they went from 30 moves an hour, maybe to eight. They're gonna be like this. Who's gonna win here in the long run?
Starting point is 00:17:37 You're better off sitting down and let's get a contract and let's move on with this world. And in today's world, I'll cripple you. I will cripple you. And you have no idea what that means. I will cripple you. Well, there's a couple of interesting aspects to this. One is that the longshoremen did an agreement
Starting point is 00:17:56 on the West Coast. And he doesn't mention that, but he- No, he does not. He does not. He does, he talks about Texas, the main. He doesn't talk about the West coast. And so I'm just, just say, if, if people are looking for investment opportunities,
Starting point is 00:18:11 not investment advice, no, just opportunities. And I don't know what they would be, but if they, if they shut down the East coast, the West coast will be booming with activity. That means Seattle, Portland, Oakland, Long Beach, all up and down the coast. These ports will be filled because everyone has to be redirected. So that means the rail out here and everything else is going to be busier. It's going to be ridiculous. In fact, we're going to be swamped. Well, you have those ships sitting out at sea again
Starting point is 00:18:45 Of course because they won't be able to handle that's what will end up happening The whole bay will be filled with a bunch of boats and and prices will have to go up because of that also just the now You have to ship overland. It's going to be a nightmarish at this at one hand on the other hand It's gonna be a boom at least locally on the west coast. Well bully for you Well, I'm not looking forward to it. The traffic's bad enough. Yeah, no kidding. Because that means the trucks will be loading.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And the place, just the freeways will be filled with trucks getting the stuff as far east as it can, even though once it gets to Denver, it's going to be... I mean, it's just not possible for the West Coast to supply the entire country. It's not possible. No. And the good news is Washington, DC will be affected by this. So that will get their attention.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Now, Taft-Hartley, I think is what it is. That's a provision that the president can call upon to force the union to go back to work. I have to review that again. I forgot how they can win this. Well, he made it sound like, okay, that means we have to go back to work for 90 days and we'll be working for eight hours. Yeah, this is called a slowdown, as the unions call it. He makes an incredibly valid point.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Like, oh, we had to work. We were essential workers during Kovik, as he said, Kovik. He meant Kovik. This guy was authentic, man. He's got tats. He's got the big chain. He's like a Sherman. They're all that way. Bicycle chain around his neck. Yeah. Good on him. We need a little bit of crippling here. Wake people up. No, we don't. You wake people up. Get them in tune.
Starting point is 00:20:29 He did say one thing in there that I thought was very noteworthy, which was, nobody knows what a real strike is like in our current environment. The millennials don't know what it's like. The Zs don't know what it's like. Most of the, you know, the Gen X don't, don't have never experienced a real strike. And now whether there's going to be one or not is another issue. Well, they got two days. Yeah, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I don't know exactly what the demands are. A real, real strike is a bad thing. What happened to Boeing? Did that get resolved after their final and best price? I have no idea what's going on there. I didn't follow it close enough, so I don't know what's going on. But it's nothing like what this is a big deal. The Boeing thing is just one company.
Starting point is 00:21:19 No, talks broke off without progress. So no. Yeah, but they can stagger along. That's not going to affect the economy much. Well, it's probably good because you heard the latest about Boeing. No. This morning, another black eye for Boeing. Black eye for Boeing.
Starting point is 00:21:38 The NTSB issuing an urgent safety warning over a key part in some of its embattled 737 MAX jets. Just the latest blow to one of the world's biggest aviation companies which has faced a series of setbacks this year including an ongoing strike and that door plug blowout in January. The new issue regards the rudder control system on some 737 MAX and NG aircraft. First discovered in February when United pilots reported rudder pedals on their MAX 8 became stuck in neutral. Let me just tell you something. The rudder pedals are pretty important for landing in particular, also for takeoffs in
Starting point is 00:22:21 flight also, but you really can't land with a crosswind if you don't have a rudder pedal. It's going to be very difficult. As they landed at Newark International, in that incident, the plane landed safely. The rudder is that vertical fin on the tail of the airplane that pilots use sometimes whenever they need to counter a stiff crosswind or if there's an engine failure. It's not used all the time, but it's there for a reason and that's for potential emergencies or maneuvering ability. That's a little disingenuous.
Starting point is 00:22:55 You need the rudder. It's just, you need, you can't, the flying the aircraft without a rudder is no good. And TSB investigators say testing determined a sealed bearing was incorrectly assembled during production and that Collins Aerospace which manufactures that part notified Boeing that more than 350 had been delivered to Boeing since 2017 and were affected. In a statement of Boeing says last month it informed affected 737 operators airlines of the potential problem adding
Starting point is 00:23:25 They're working with a supplier to address it United Airlines is the only US carrier that had the component in its planes and says They've already been replaced. No, ah So it's already done No panic just united They had dudes and dresses replaced the parts it's all good. They fixed it. They fixed it. It's all good. Dude in dresses. They're CEO, dude in a dress.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Come on. We wrapped up climate week and you and I- I didn't even notice. Yeah, we kind of missed it. I'm sad. There was so much else going on and NPR was all over it. They had a climate solution. You and I, we kind of missed it. I'm sad. Uh, there was so much else going on and NPR was all over it. They had a climate solutions week is what they had on, uh, on the air.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I was listening to it all along. I never heard this. Well, it was, it was mainly centered in New York is where that was the headquarters of climate week. Uh, and just, you know, NPR has big problems with their podcast division. It's essentially closing. Well, it should. They got no good podcasts and they keep promoting them and
Starting point is 00:24:35 ruining the normal programming. Well, I got the credits from the shortwave episode. It's called Shortwave, which is the NPR podcast. And then this is the Climate Solutions edition of Shortwave, which is the NPR podcast. Then this is the Climate Solutions edition of Shortwave. Maybe if we listen to the credits, we can understand why they're going out of business. This episode was produced by Hannah Chin and edited by our showrunner, Rebecca Ramirez. Tyler Jones checked the facts. The audio engineer was James Willis. Beth Zonovan is our senior director and Colin Campbell is our senior vice president of podcasting
Starting point is 00:25:07 strategy. I'm Regina Barber. Thanks for listening to Show Wave. We need a vice president of podcasting strategies on this show and a show runner. I want a show runner. A show runner. Dana Brunetti should be our show runner. He would be good at being our show runner.
Starting point is 00:25:25 He probably considers that a lousy job. Oh, well he was a show runner. Wasn't he the show runner on House of Cards? I think he was the show runner. I think he was. Yeah, it's a show runner. You're the boss. I mean, you're making it happen and you have to take the licking and you have to go.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Show runner, for people out there, they never give them credit. The credit is on, according to the, they have to, you know, there's all these rules nowadays that the producers guild and the directors guild, they have these rules about how you show credits. You know, they used to be in the onomatase, they show all the credits at the beginning of a movie, now they're at the end. The trick to finding the show runner of a show is the last executive producer listed before the writer. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:22 So they have executive producer, producer, co-producers, blah, blah, blah, all these, then there's executive producer and then writer the one with the guy who comes up before writer is the Currently the executive or is the showrunner for the show which is I don't know why they just don't call him a showrunner But they won't do it on credits. I Because it sounds demeaning which it does sound it sounds pretty lame That's the job we have to bend over for the network. Uh, this really should be called boss. And they have to go back to the productions. I have guys, the network doesn't like it. Uh, Darren O'Neill says he'll be our show runner, which is fine by me.
Starting point is 00:26:57 He is already. He's right. Rock and roll show runner. Um, anyway, uh, but do you want wanna do a little bit of fun climate stuff? Just for yucks. I only have the eating bugs part of the whole thing. If you wanna do climate stuff, I don't really have anything on climate.
Starting point is 00:27:15 What is the eating bug stuff? Well, there's a podcast. Ah, yay, another podcast. Today's theme will be podcasts that we don't do. And this is called the Can I Bug You podcast. Are they pro-bug? They're pro-eating bugs. This is like a podcast about eating bugs.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And it's one of the problems, you know, I Most podcasts are not very good. No, I don't know if people have noticed but they're lame people don't really feel comfortable Talking into a mic. It's just a million things. It's just the timing is bad They they don't get then they added it to make it worse. You can't edit to make timing work. That's for sure Oh, yeah, I'm gonna take out all of the pauses and the ums and the ahs. It'll sound great. Yeah So we have this podcast Hello listeners, are you hungry? Hey, this looks like a good spot to rustle up some grub Hey grub, what's it look like
Starting point is 00:28:44 So they have this reasonably well edited opening montage, you know, which may just come from cartoons as far as I can tell. It sounds like a cartoon. Yeah. And then they go into the podcast and it's like this big room. And you hear the room and everything. This is very painful to listen to for me. Slimy yet satisfying. Oh, Lion King. Yes, that's where it's from. This food. That's what we're here to talk about on today's episode of Can I Bug You?
Starting point is 00:29:08 Our every other weekly deep dive into the wide, weird world of insects. It's a deep dive. You sure it's not AI, this podcast? Pretty sure. I'm UC Riverside spokeswoman Jules Bernstein. I'm here with my co-host Doug Yannica, who is the senior scientist at UC Riverside's Entomology Research Museum. Hey, Doug. Hello. Hey, Doug. I'm here with my co-host Doug Yanaga, who is the senior scientist at UC Riverside's Entomology Research Museum.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Hey, Doug. Hey, Doug. And our special guest today is Erin Wilson-Renkin, a professor of entomology here at UCR. She studies the ecology of arthropod communities and teaches a course for non-majors called the Natural History of Insects, which introduces the subject of entomophagy, the idea of intentionally using insects as food. Oh, hold on. Entomophagy?
Starting point is 00:29:49 Is that what she said? This is a good term. Entomophagy, I think. F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E?
Starting point is 00:29:57 F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E? F-A-E-G-E? This of course is different than people unintentionally consuming insects in their food, which they
Starting point is 00:30:05 most certainly do. Hey Erin. Hi. Do you happen to have any information about how many insects are allowed in food products per the US Food and Drug Administration? I know for a couple things that are particularly important to me, chocolate. I love chocolate. But you can have, it's allowable to have, you know, 50, 60 pieces of insect in 100 grams
Starting point is 00:30:27 of chocolate. Oh, and they're doing this too. There are bugs in everything now. You just go look at the supermarket. It has different names, but there's bugs, bug dust, bug sap, all kinds of bug stuff. You can have a lot of aphids, 2500 aphids per 10 grams of hops. So if you're a beer drinker, there might be some extra sweetness coming from the insects.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Does that add extra protein? Possibly. There's such small amounts that I don't know if it's going to be statistically significant. And it probably gets filtered out. I mean, particulate matter. Well, some people find this gross, but others think insects are the food of the future for a whole variety of reasons we'll get into today. Food of the future! Entomophagy, E-N-T-O-M-O-P-H-A-G-Y, also to be pronounced as Entomophagy, depends on
Starting point is 00:31:24 where you come from Practice of eating insects alternative term is insectivory To insect them. Yes, that's what I would use insectivory. Yes Hmm well What you just heard is is is really part of the problem, is the FDA, without much fanfare, has approved all of these entomophagy products that go into food. Certain flour.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Cricket flour being the worst. Cricket flour, yeah. What's the term for cricket flour again? Because it has a different word. I don't remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me just... Consult the Book of Knowledge. What's the term for cricket flower again? Cause it has different word. I don't remember. Yeah. Yeah. Let me just.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Consult the book of knowledge. Cricket flower is, can't find it now. Food. Thank you troll room. Just call it food. Cricket flowers. You think flower is, there it is. There it is.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Thank you, Clip Custodian. A cheetah powder. A-C-H-E-T-A. A cheetah powder. Yeah, that's better probably termed than flower. Flower F-L-O-U-R indicates to me something that's from grinding some sort of a plant product. No, you're grinding a cricket. What about a cricket?
Starting point is 00:32:49 It's like, is there beef flour? Is there dog flour? I mean, maybe the Haitians have that. No doubt. So, but yeah, but that's all allowed by the FDA. So people just put it in there and it's part of the climate change narrative. I think for a moment since we have a guest on this MSNBC show who is known to the show for many years and comes from this period we need to open it up. To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate. As the climate gate jingle started for us, I'm going to say 2009. It was right during climate gate.
Starting point is 00:33:31 So you'd have to figure out when that was. Yes. Well, that's why it's a jingle. And it was Michael Mann, who was the guy who was falsifying his notes, modifying them, because it didn't make sense. I think falsifying is a better word. Can I, yeah, that's probably correct. Was changing his notes and his formula,
Starting point is 00:33:57 and it was found out, it was a big scandal. It was a hack. Somebody hacked the email system. Oh, it was a glitch, a glitch and a hack. Somebody hacked the email system. It was a glitch. A glitch and a hack. It was a hack that the emails came out. And of course they denied it. And it was a scandal.
Starting point is 00:34:16 It was a big scandal. We covered it quite extensively. Bingit.io, you can hear all of it. So Michael Mann shows up with Katie Tur on MSNBC for Climate Week with, well, can you guess who he's with? I mean, if you have Michael Mann, one of the premier climate Scientologists, climatologists of our time and of the IPCC, the International Planetary Panel on Climate Change, who would he show up with for a bit of color in the commentary?
Starting point is 00:34:47 Well, I can think of a number of people, but unfortunately I can't get Francis Collins out of my mind since I saw him the other day bullshitting about vaccines. No, it's not Francis Collins. It's better than that. Hanson is the only, the guy it should get, but you don't see him anymore. No, no, no, no. Hanson is the guy who came get, but you don't see him anymore. No, no, no, no. Hanson is the guy who came up with the first hockey stick program. I'm disappointed you didn't guess.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Helene is breaking records in the Southeast as the UN is holding its climate week here in New York, where scientists and world leaders have met to discuss concerns about bigger and stronger storms, along with temperature changes across the globe. Joining us now, science educator and the Planetary Society CEO, Bill Nye. You know him well. From the University of Pennsylvania. Science.
Starting point is 00:35:32 You didn't tell me, you should have said a big phony we all know very well. Science educator. Who's not a climatologist in any ways, a big electrical engineer or something like that. But he has a new outfit. Listen to his outfit. And the Planetary Society CEO Bill.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Planetary Society. Bro, we need one of those. My, you know, well. And University of Pennsylvania, Presidential Distinguished Professor of Earth and Environmental Science, and author of our Fragile Moment, How Lessons from Earth's Past
Starting point is 00:36:01 Can Help Us Survive the Climate Crisis, and a whole lot of other books of Michael Mann. Gentlemen, it's really great to have you. Oh, it's great to have you. Well, let's have Michael. Wait, stop. I'm just going to do a little mind reading here.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I'm certain that Katie Tuer brings up the climate gate issues and Michael Mann being a big phony by fudging numbers and she confronts him like a good journalist would, right? Your mind reading is off the chart, so far off that it's not on the chart. You were nodding your head as Melissa was talking about rapid intensification. Yeah, something we talk a lot about these days. You know, these storms intensify. Now, this is the extreme weather. Remember, back in the climate gate days, it was global warming.
Starting point is 00:36:54 This is before it became climate change because the warming was provably not happening. Then it was weather is not climate, but now extreme weather events is climate. Yes. Far more rapidly than they used to. And there's basic underlying science that predicted that decades ago. I'm sorry, I have to interrupt again. I'm going to interrupt us today. That's fine. I can't emphasize enough since you brought it up. It just reminded me. I can't emphasize enough since we've been doing this long enough. Almost 17 years.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Yeah. The idea that weather isn't climate was punctuated and pounded on the table to no end. Weather is not climate. Weather is not climate. That's all they talked about. Now they changed it. not climate. That's all they talked about. Now, they changed it. Let me see if I have a weather is not climate. We have a lot of those. What is this?
Starting point is 00:37:52 In India, a severe heat wave has shattered the national benchmark for the hottest day on record as the temperature in the city of Phulodi topped a staggering 123 degrees Fahrenheit. Several hundred people have died so far from the extreme temperatures across India. Increasingly deadly heat waves have been linked to climate change. No, that was mistitled. I should look for them, honestly.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I should go back and look for them. But yes, they kept on saying weather is not- They pounded the table over it. Yes, weather is not climate, weather is not climate. And that was because it was they were they brought some stuff up during the winter and said look it's freezing out what are you talking about? Yes, it's weather's not climate. All right back to uh back to Michael Mann with the rapid intensification. Basic underlying science that predicted that decades ago you warm up the oceans there's more energy more evaporation of moisture from the ocean. That provides the energy to intensify these storms. They intensify faster.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And we are seeing that. And the thread is, as you heard here, you have less time to prepare because something that was just a weak tropical storm is a major hurricane within a matter of 24 hours. They had a lot of time to prepare. That's never happened before. It's rapid intensification.
Starting point is 00:39:05 And by the way, did, oh, I got it. I got it. I got it. This time I can do it. Okay. She's going to ask about, you know, that they had a, they had no major hurricanes in 2023. How do you account for that?
Starting point is 00:39:18 No, the next, she's now going to move to Bill Nye. She's going to move to Bill Nye. So we need Bill Nye to put in some scientific evidence some scientific analogy a metaphor something that we can understand I keep hearing people say, you know climate scientists go out and they and they say it's the end of the world The climate change is here Disaster is coming but everything's been fine and then I look at them and I said what about that hurricane or what about that fire? There are fire of this country that are not fine. It's not happening, it's not the end of the world,
Starting point is 00:39:50 like in a science fiction movie at the moment, but there are real life effects around people that are being displaced and killed. It's coming, people are being killed by climate. Well, and it's also when your power goes out. That's when the end of the world gets us, in the developed world. And people who live in that area now have just not just rainwater flooding, but flooding from the ocean, which is salty, which rusts your car, and then you can't get insurance.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Bill Nye comes in with some with a factoid we all needed. Because your car, how about your car blowing up in the garage because it's an electric vehicle? How about that Bill? Didn't notice that one. Obviously these two guys are here for a reason. You had a climate week this week. Any consensus happening?
Starting point is 00:40:41 We're just one, we're just one international meeting from solving it. Yes. Oh, just one more. No, everybody. Oh, it's humor. People say to me, Bill Nye, science guy. Bill Nye. People come up to him and say, hey, Bill Nye, science guy. Can you imagine that? People come up to me and say, Adam Curry, pod father. Oh wait, some people do that. People say to me, Bill Nye, science guy, what can I do about climate change?
Starting point is 00:41:08 What can I do about climate change? We'll tell you what, people's vote. Right now we hear so much about the undecided voters and this is, I'm being as- Diplomatic, generous? Magnanimous. How can you not tell the difference, people? One side is in support of doing something about these massive problems associated with climate change. The other side is pretending
Starting point is 00:41:30 it's not happening. And you guys, we all want a villain and so on, but it really has been the fossil fuel industry that's worked really hard to suppress the science. Suppress the science. Okay. Maybe you should just explain what you really want the people to hear, Bill Nye, science guy. A lot of people, when they hear that though, they think, God, you guys are being too crazy. You're being too strict, too harsh. I like my way of life. I like my car. I like ordering things on Amazon. I like all the plastic. Yes. I'm crazy for plastic. But that's the thing. I mean, it is so ingrained in our life. And what they're looking for is for science to come up with a
Starting point is 00:42:15 way to solve this. Well, so we claim. Do we have a scientific solution? John? Is his solution to the science? I'm befuddled by this whole thing. She is useless and he's an idiot. I mean, I don't get it. Why would they even put this on the air? Oh, the reason is coming now. On our side of it, we claim that we have enough energy to take care of everything right now if we just could apply it. And so the longest journey begins with about a single step.
Starting point is 00:42:48 We will phase out fossil fuel use and we will phase in renewable energy but just when it comes November 5th everybody, you've got to vote for the Democrats. I'm doing my best here. For many years I've been the head of a of a organization that we worked very hard to be political but not partisan in space exploration. Be that as it may, right now the choice is clear. So you can, everybody
Starting point is 00:43:16 out there, you can hate me, you can hate him, you can hate everything, but when it comes to doing something about climate change, you've got to vote for Harris Walz. And that's what too often have to vote. Oh my God. There it is. This is where you expected clip of the day. No, no, no. I thought the Trump clip would be clip of the day.
Starting point is 00:43:35 That was the most, that is not acceptable. NBC should be, NBC's bad enough. This is that head of Comcast. Again, I keep bringing him up. It's his, this guy, really, that Comcast should get rid of NBC because they're ruining the country. I think, you know, we need a best of show in the next couple of months.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I think you should do an interview with Bill Nye, science guy. I bet you can do it. I bet if you called up and say, hey, I'm a podcast, he'd be like, oh, you're a podcaster. So yeah, I'd like to interview you. Probably wouldn't do the due diligence he needs to do to listen to the show. Because once he did that, he would never agree to an interview. Do you think he would walk away while you were interviewing him? No, he wouldn't agree to it. Oh. Well, that's shameless.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Yeah. Of course, we are thinking of all of our producers on the East Coast, South East, North Carolina, Tennessee. You can say all you want, they're not listening. Well, some still have battery power, but this was a very odd storm. It was, you know, they said, I mean, I got so, I told you that the reporting was strange. The reporting was off kilter, like it was, it was a lot of water and it destroyed dams. But Cat 4 wind speeds.
Starting point is 00:44:59 That dam didn't go. It looks like it's going to blow up. Oh, it didn't go? Oh, it didn't go. But there's a lot of destruction. But it wasn't, the winds weren't what anyone predicted. The winds were much calmer. Just a lot of water. And it was big.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Just water. Just a lot of water. Yeah, a lot of water. So we are thinking of you, producers. A lot of water. And there was, I thought, I was looking over my clip list. I thought I had this clip. I know I had it. I guess I didn't produce it. I'm not sure what happened,
Starting point is 00:45:28 but there was a great clip somebody sent me from Florida, one of the islands where some Tesla. Yeah, was it caught fire, was blowing up in the garage. It blew up in the garage and burnt down what looked to be a castle. Oh, I missed that part. I mean, this house was just as gorgeous because it was left a couple outer walls because the house burnt to the ground and the reporting,
Starting point is 00:45:51 local reporting talked about how all these electric scooters were going up, boom, blowing up left and right. And there was Tesla's blowing up the salt water. Uh, this is very dangerous. Uh, Oh, the irony of trying to save the climate with your EV and it catching on fire because of salt water. Burning the place down. So I have a couple of things I want to share as a mini presentation. But I share. You're going to share? I'm going to share a secret only if we hold hands.
Starting point is 00:46:33 What happened with Nasrallah, I think is something we have. We need to do a deep dive. I have a lot of Nasrallah clips. That's why I'd like you to start it off. A follow up. No, no, I'd like you to start it off. I'd like you to get it all out of your system and then we'll do some analysis. Because this was, I think, much bigger than people realize. I find it distressing to be honest about it. I have a series of clips here from the Hezbollah leader. Let me get this right. Let's just start with them NPR stuff. This is two clips from NPR.
Starting point is 00:47:08 To many, Nasrallah is the leader of a terrorist organization, but to others in the Middle East, as we just heard, he's viewed as a hero. NPR's Hadil Al-Shalchi. Take a closer look. Is this Hez Leader 1? Yes it is. You don't like it? Okay, stop that clip. No, that has to come later. I'm sorry. Okay. What we want is Hez Summary Good 1 NPR. You don't like it? Okay, stop that clip. No, that has to come later. I'm sorry. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:25 What we want is Hezbollah good one NPR. Hezbollah has vowed to retaliate after an Israeli airstrike killed Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of the Iranian-backed militant group Hezbollah in Lebanon. The question of what's next for the two countries hinges on the war in Gaza. NPR's Jane Araf in Beirut has more on what it would take to get to a ceasefire. Hezbollah itself is really unwilling to accept a ceasefire. It made clear when it announced the death of Nasrallah that it would continue fighting Israel. And Nasrallah has always made clear that there won't be a ceasefire here unless there's a ceasefire in Gaza.
Starting point is 00:48:04 But in Piers, Daniel Estrin, who's in Israel, says Gaza ceasefire talks are stalled. The question is, will Iran-backed militias throughout the region fire at Israel, whether that's the Houthis in Yemen, whether that's Shia militias in Iraq? Israel is preparing for that potential escalation. Okay. Did you get a note from one of our Mohammed's... Yes. ...designate Mohammed?
Starting point is 00:48:32 I'm going to talk about that in my presentation. Because I thought that was interesting. Let's go to summary two. The assassination Friday was an escalation of Israel's campaign against Hezbollah in a year-long conflict. Hezbollah started firing on Israel just after Hamas attacked southern Israel October 7th, leaving around 1,200 dead and kidnapping around 250. Relatives of the remaining hostages have called on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
Starting point is 00:48:57 to ease up on hostilities until the hostages are released. Meanwhile, President Biden calls Nasrallah's death a measure of justice. And Piers Deepa Shivaram reports. In a statement Biden said Nasrallah and Hezbollah have been responsible for killing hundreds of Americans as well as Israeli and Lebanese civilians. Biden said the US's goal is to de-escalate tensions in the Middle East through diplomatic means. But ceasefire negotiations between Israel and Hamas have been held up for months.
Starting point is 00:49:26 And there is also no agreement to stop the fighting on the Israel-Lebanon border. The president said he's also directed the Pentagon to enhance the posture of U.S. forces in the Middle East to deter a broader regional war. Vice President Harris released a statement too, saying Nasrallah had, quote, American blood on his hands. This is the guy we have to remember who blew up the Marine barracks, killing 200 during the Reagan administration. Well, he's been around for 30 years, right?
Starting point is 00:49:57 Yeah, he's been around forever and it's like they can't, they couldn't get rid of them. The Israelis finally got fed up, I guess, because they used a bunker busters to blow up that area. Yeah, they, they got him like had an eight second window and done. But this guy is, you know, he's a bad guy to us and the Israelis and everybody who's on that side of the argument, but he's a good guy. In fact, I get back and forth with somebody bitching at us because we're playing I'm gonna talk about that too. This that's actually what set me on down the road down a different path Well, I do want to mention that 1701 which is a UN Security Council resolution 1701
Starting point is 00:50:38 Which required the Hezbollah to move north and for the Israelis to leave Lebanon in 2006 Hezbollah to move north and for the Israelis to leave Lebanon in 2006. It was ignored by Hezbollah. I'm going to talk about all that. And it was also ignored by this guy who kept writing us notes and got sick of. I'm going to read that in a moment. Okay, well I'm just setting this up. So let's listen to a couple of things about this guy. And if anybody thinks that he wasn't loved by the Lebanese, they're wrong as far as I'm concerned. You could maybe have something that contradicts that.
Starting point is 00:51:16 I do have contradictory stuff. Good. I will play before I get to the leader one. Well, let's go with his leader. Let's play that clip. Nasrallah appeared on television for the last time on September 19th denouncing the Israeli pager operation. Retribution will come, he said. It's manner, size, how and where, that we will keep to ourselves. The White House said today that Nasrallah's death was a quote, measure of justice for many victims. Nasrallah is survived by his wife and four
Starting point is 00:51:50 children. He was 64. Hadil al-Shalchi, NPR News. He's been doing this for a long time if he's only 54. And then one more ancillary clip. I just played this Hez Love Hate clip and then we can play the two clips about him. So there was just this mix of emotions. There was mourning, but there was more than that. People here were confused. This is uncharted territory. People on the streets are also scared. They understand the gravity of the moment.
Starting point is 00:52:21 And they also understand that no one can quite predict just what comes after this. Tell us more about Nasrallah, what he represented in the region. He's a complicated figure. Israel and the US consider him a terrorist who led deadly attacks against Americans as well as Israelis. But to many here in Lebanon and across the Middle East, he's a hero. After Israel invaded southern Lebanon in the 80s Nasrallah led an armed resistance that eventually led To an Israeli withdrawal and of course on the Palestinian issue. He became the most visible and perhaps the most prominent anti Israeli figure in the world So for more than three decades not only was he the top commander of Hezbollah
Starting point is 00:53:00 But he was also a religious leader and a politician. So the big questionator what happens next? I mean there will be a funeral obviously, but I think there's just a lot more questions and answers He was also a religious leader and a politician. So the big question later, what happens next? There will be a funeral, obviously, but I think there's just a lot more questions than answers. How will Hezbollah retaliate for his death? What about Iran, who is Hezbollah's benefactor? How do they react? Then, of course, Israel.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Starting with the pager attacks last week, Israel has systematically degraded Hezbollah leadership. Is that enough, or does Israel go further launching a ground invasion? We don't have clear answers to any of those questions right now. What was this outlet who did this particular report? The NPR. Oh, that's NPR as well?
Starting point is 00:53:35 Yeah, most of this is NPR. So we're going to go. I mean, I had the same clips from PBS, NeHour, but NPR seems to have the most, and I will say this, NPR, I think, was very sympathetic to Nasrallah. I think they were- Oh, totally. They played it like, oh, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:59 this guy was the greatest. He was 64, his four children, his wife. Boy, 54, I think he's 54. They didn't say 50. No, they said 64 is what I heard. Okay. Yeah. It would make more sense.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Yeah, he's family man. Yeah, he was a good family man. So here we go with the last two clips and this is the, it has leader one and two. To many, Nasrallah is the leader of a terrorist organization, but to others in the Middle East, as we just heard, he's viewed as a hero. And Piaz Hadil Al-Shalchi takes a closer look at who he was. That's some hero talk right there. In a fiery speech on a podium in Lebanon.
Starting point is 00:54:40 I want you to keep that him yelling and screaming clip in mind with what you're about to hear. In a fiery speech at a podium in Lebanon in 2000, Hassan Nasrallah compares Israel's military capability to a weak spider web. It was in this year that the longtime Hezbollah leader became an icon. He had just led his militia in a war that pushed Israeli troops out of southern Lebanon ending an 18-year occupation. Nasrallah was born to an impoverished Shiite family in the north of Lebanon. Before co-founding Hezbollah, Nasrallah learned the ropes in the Amal movement, a Shiite political
Starting point is 00:55:22 and paramilitary group. He was chosen to be Hezbollah's leader two days after his head, Abbas Musawi, was killed by the Israeli military in 1992. He became famous for his thick beard, black turban, cloak, and charisma. Charisma? Speaking with a slight lisp, Nasrallah appealed to regular Arabs. Lisp? He spoke with lisp? I didn't hear that. I didn't catch the lisp. Hath-a-la-fra-la. I didn't hear that. I didn't catch the lisp.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Well, it's hard, I guess. Yes, it was Arabic. Arabic lisp. I don't know what that is. Amal-i-thin-en-kid-fid-dith. Okay. So, she goes on. Let's go to part...
Starting point is 00:55:55 That's the end of that, I think. Yes, that is, yes. Yeah, go to part two. Muhammad Bazzi is the director of the Center for Near Eastern Studies at New York University. He was speaking as if he was sitting with people in a cafe. Okay, stop it. Speaking to people like he was in a cafe? What kind of cafe is that?
Starting point is 00:56:18 Yeah, it's a loud one. He was speaking as if he was sitting with people in a cafe. He had this accessible style that resonated with people. Nasrallah was a hero to many Arabs who were disillusioned with their own leaders. His son, Hadi, was killed fighting the occupying Israeli army in 1997. An extreme contrast to most of the other political leaders in Lebanon, whose children would be sent to Switzerland and to universities. And so that solidified that he was making the same kinds of sacrifices that he was asking
Starting point is 00:56:48 other people's children to make. For much of the last two decades, Nasrallah was only ever seen on television and never in public for fear of assassination attempts. When Nasrallah spoke, the region and begrudgingly the Israeli security establishment had to stop and listen to the message he was about to convey. The political priorities, the military priorities of Hezbollah, there was also a sense that Nasrallah meant what he said. For the Israelis, Nasrallah was a terrorist who kept their northern borders unendingly
Starting point is 00:57:17 threatened. He was involved in the bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon that killed over 200 U.S. servicemen in the early 80s. Nasrallah also backed Syrian President Bashar al-Assad during the brutal 2011 civil war that killed thousands of Sunni Muslims. He's also going to be remembered as a sectarian leader. People aren't going to forget that, so it'll be this dual legacy. Hezbollah and Israel began trading fire the day after the Hamas led attacks on Israel
Starting point is 00:57:43 on October 7th. Hostilities intensified last week when thousands of pagers and walkie-talkies used by Hezbollah members exploded around Lebanon. Lebanese health officials said the explosions killed 39 people. Okay. Those are some good backgrounders. So I think, by the way, this guy, the Sunnis can't possibly like this character. He's killed Sunni Muslims, he killed American soldiers.
Starting point is 00:58:12 I don't know why Reagan actually backed off and vacated the area once that bombing took place. He was a bad guy. But okay, NPR plays him up as a family man and he took a sacrifice by not sending his kid to Switzerland. With a lisp. He's so normal. All right. So we did indeed receive two emails. And one was from one of our producers. And I'll just read the opening to the email. I'll come back to it later. He says, on Thursday show, John joked about you and him being shills for Israel,
Starting point is 00:58:50 which would be a fine enough joke. But then the blunder occurred when he presented to you and everyone listening, a military industrial complex swamp monster, extraordinary with deep tie to the Israel lobby as a respected expert on Middle East affairs. He of course sent that to me, so I replied and said, I'm copying John since you forgot to copy him on your email. Probably because he couldn't spell Dvorak. We also received an email from our dude named Mohammed and he reminded us of a previous
Starting point is 00:59:26 email. And he said, is it me or does it seem like every single powerful Iranian or Iranian proxy figure vanishes unexpectedly? It seems like someone is systematically getting rid of them. After each assassination will be a couple of days of colorful rhetoric followed by coordination for a very clean response that doesn't hurt anyone and bright lit missiles or drones that are intercepted by the Iron Dome. So both parties can claim some victory and have good visuals for their side social media
Starting point is 00:59:54 accounts." And he closes by saying, just like Adam's Iranian friends say, a lot of people in this region think the Iranian regime is coordinating every step with the US and Israel, which is something that's been an ongoing theme. So now I just may, I just connected a whole bunch of dots. It could be, I could be worse than that guy, Ian Carroll, you know, this'll, you get your team for it, how this'll blow your mind. You know that guy, that TikTok guy, it irritates me. There's a lot of irritating guys out there. He's one of them. That's one thing we've noticed over the years.
Starting point is 01:00:29 So we need to go back a year to October... Oh, and girls. I want to mention, and women. And women. We need to go back a year to October 7th, last year. And I've just pulled a couple clips just for color. This is McGregor who said the following. Well, I should point out that I was in Israel three years ago in February of 2020 and I had the opportunity because I was a guest of the IDF Chief of Staff to visit the Gaza front, so to say. So I saw the barriers, I saw the walls, I saw how the Israelis had constructed what I thought was a very effective and tightly organized security system. To be perfectly blunt with you, I'm somewhat surprised by the entire thing. It seems almost incomprehensible to me that the Hamas fighters could have broken through as suddenly and as easily as they did without
Starting point is 01:01:25 two things. One is shameless incompetence for which I saw no evidence when I was in Israel, or someone deliberately let them in. It's just hard for me to believe that the Hamas was quite that clever. Now, if you recall, October 7th immediately was billed as, this is our 9-11. This is our 9-11. This is it. The Jews were saying it. Sir Brian of London, you got to understand that because that was the messaging all across Israel. This is our 9-11, only it would be the 2,300 people is the equivalent to 30,000 Americans. Yes, this is the thing we have to remember the extrapolation that constantly took place, which I found offensive. Well, because I believe that was a meme that was launched because it is indeed very hard
Starting point is 01:02:18 to understand how Israel let their security lapse. We don't have to go through all the clips, but a cat could walk past that wall or that particular border structure and bells and alarms and everything will go off and machine guns start firing automatically, but no, none of that. And it took them hours and hours
Starting point is 01:02:40 to come to where the breach had occurred. So I think we talked about at the time, the comparison to 9-11 is probably pretty apt because that was an inside job, I'm just going to say it, at least as sufficient evidence that we never got the full story, WTC 7, and we never got the full story on October 7th. On October 8th, it was Hezbollah who started shooting rockets over. So now I'm going to go to another podcast called Call Me Back. It's Dan Signor. And he does this podcast. It's pretty much for the past year has only been about what's happening in Israel and Gaza
Starting point is 01:03:26 and Lebanon. And he has with him a guy named Nadav Eyal. And here is their assessment of the situation in Israel, but predominantly in Lebanon. And what we are seeing here in the last 14 days, and specifically with the killing of Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of a US designated terror organization, a man with American blood on his hands, and mainly, by the way, the blood of Syrian Muslims on his hands, dozens of thousands of Syrians. One of the reasons we're seeing scenes of celebration around Syria as a
Starting point is 01:04:07 result, and not only in Syria, but across the region. I've gotten more messages since October 7th from friends and officials in the Sunni Arab world, particularly the Sunni Gulf, celebrating what Israel did to Nasrallah. Dr. Shachar Amman So I'm getting the same kind of messages. And the reason for that is that strategically, the tide has shifted. We have been talking on your show and I've been making two points. The first point is that Israel is trying to restore the deterrence it did not have on October 7 when it was attacked by Hamas, on October 8 when it was attacked by Hezbollah, in April when it was attacked by Iran and
Starting point is 01:04:50 by the Houthis in between. And the tide has changed. And what Israel has done to Nasrallah, the leader of the most well-funded and well-founded terror organization in the world and to its entire central command is something that is simply vibrating through the region and has changed the region already. This is a strategic change. Sometimes you know these kinds of operations, they carry tactical weight. There was always someone to replace, not in this case, very much like Osama tactical weight. There was always someone to replace.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Not in this case, very much like Osama bin Laden. This was the Hassan Nasrallah that entered this war. And he made the biggest mistake by entering this war and aligning himself with Yekhya Sinwar, the leader of Hamas. So as I'm listening to this podcast on the dog walk last night, what really triggered me was this next clip when he brought up UN Resolution 1701. All these calls for ceasefires were misguided, that the international community should have been focused on getting Hezbollah to move back, back north of the Latani River as it was mandated to
Starting point is 01:06:05 do so under UN Security Council Resolution 1701 after the 2006 Lebanon War. And for the last 11 months, there's been little to none of a serious effort to pressure Hezbollah. Yes, there's been some behind the scenes moves and whatnot, but there hasn't been a full thrall. The international community was not mobilized to pressure Hezbollah. And that failure to focus on Hezbollah the way Israel was keeping an eye on Hezbollah and thinking about its next move on Hezbollah is as responsible or as much of a driver to this moment as anything. Absolutely. I was amazed when I saw the Biden-Emmanuel-Macron declaration saying after the quote-unquote escalation in South Lebanon, in other words, after Israel was having one success after
Starting point is 01:06:58 the other, that now they're calling for 21 days of ceasefire. So the way this came across to me is, wait a minute, everybody was just letting this happen. There was no calls for, you know, that this was against, I mean, the minute something's against the UN resolution usually, and everyone's there, everyone's in New York. How come nobody said anything? So back to your guy from your clip, I pulled a little piece. His name is David Wormer. He's the guy who had, I think it was an NTD clip.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Hezbollah never lived up to its side of Resolution 1701, and that's now the Israeli demand that Resolution 1701 be actually implemented. And if the UN and the world doesn't force on Hezbollah to live up to its terms, the Israelis will go in on the ground and force Hezbollah to live up to its terms. So back to the email from the guy who talked about our incredible blunder. He says, David Wormer, a simple book of knowledge review would have sent up many red flags about this guy you just heard. As per the Book of Knowledge, David Wormer has a PhD in international relations from John Hopkins University. He worked in Navy intelligence. He was the Middle East advisor to Dick Cheney and special assistant to John Bolton. This alone should be enough to make anything he says suspect,
Starting point is 01:08:21 dig a little deeper. And we find that he was working as an advisor to Dick Cheney who was investigated by the FBI for espionage blah blah blah blah blah. When I hear all those names and I'm already putting the Israeli 9-11 in my head okay so this guy has a message to send and and actually what this blunder turns out to be quite the great find, because where are we on the list right now of the West Clark 7? And I came back to the Pentagon about six weeks later, I saw the same officer. I said, why, why haven't we attacked Iraq? We still going to attack Iraq?
Starting point is 01:08:56 He said, oh, sorry. He says it's worse than that. He pulled up a piece of paper off his desk. He said, I just got this memo from the secretary of defense's office that says we're going to attack and destroy the governments in seven countries in five years. We're going to start with Iraq and then we're going to move to Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. We have them all now, except for Iran.
Starting point is 01:09:19 And Lebanon was one that we hadn't quite captured. And Lebanon is really important, geopolit politically, geostrategically. I mean, they've got this port, we know that this huge gas field is offshore. The place has been in a state of disarray for quite a while, financial disarray. I think that it's probably true that certainly the younger generation is happy this family man is off the scene, that there's no one really to follow him up. They blew up with the pagers, all of the probably lieutenants or whatever. And there may be some kind of IDF.
Starting point is 01:09:58 We already heard that on Thursday, IDF is probably going to go in. We may see some form of a revolution, albeit probably a peaceful one, to change what is happening in Lebanon to make it US friendly. And now we come back to our dude named Mohammed who says, you know, I wonder if America is working with Iran to get all some stuff done. We have, it's not Iran, it's not the Iranian people, it's the Revolutionary Guard, it's the mullahs, it's the supreme leader. So we need to take those guys out and we need a reason. If only we had a reason, what could the reason be?
Starting point is 01:10:37 If I were president and a former president and a leading candidate, I'm the leading candidate by far to be the next president. And that leading candidate was under threat. But if I were the president, I would inform the threatening country, in this case Iran, that if you do anything to harm this person, we are going to blow your largest cities and the country itself to smithereens. We're going to blow it to smithereens. You can't do that. And right on cue, my neighbor, Laura Logan, connected to Defense Intelligence Agency through her husband, who no longer is in service, comes
Starting point is 01:11:19 out with a post, urgent. According to informant in New Mexico, Trump's plane is the next target for assassination. Nine heat seeking surface-to-air missiles have been smuggled into the US for this purpose and there are three kill teams already inside the country. Trump has been informed so have the US Intel agencies and other authorities. Money has been transferred to a cartel to push this over the border. These people are cornered and vicious. They will stop at nothing. So only one of two scenarios is now possible. Either- I like the way you dramatize it. It is good. Well, I mean, that's the way the church lady text group dramatize it because they're like,
Starting point is 01:12:00 oh, Laura posted this. You know, Infowars multiple sources now confirm surface air missiles inside US to target Trump force one. Oh, you're getting there. I'm getting Alex. I'm getting I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
Starting point is 01:12:14 So one of two scenarios is possible. One is something actually happens. President Trump is assassinated by a surface to air missile. God forbid. But I'm just, God forbid. No way. I'm just saying, God forbid, but it would certainly be a reason to target Iran. I think more likely, this is Trump's job, and it is probably set up, and I just have to step back.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Where many people believe that Israel controls America, I believe the opposite. We control Israel. It's our aircraft carrier in the desert, in the sand. And this has been a setup from one year ago to get every single piece of the chessboard all the way up to Iran. And there will be a reason probably for Trump as president to take out the National Guard, the mullahs, the whole kit and caboodle. It may be just as surgical, he may have more pager blowups or whatever.
Starting point is 01:13:15 And then bada bing bada boom, we have the West Clark 7 completed. And then the neocons have exactly what they wanted, instead of taking three years, it took them 23 years. That's what this feels like to me. And took them a long time. Can I take, do a little meta on this? Yeah, please. Is it possible because of, if you back off to your own thesis, and Muhammad's commentary about how the Israelis and the Americans and the Iranians were already working together, that they've already been taken over.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Very possible. And the rest of it is all show. It's all theater. Fireworks. Fireworks. Yeah. Completely possible. And that's the reason they had to get rid of Nasrallah. They were also, how did anybody,
Starting point is 01:14:08 I don't care how good Mossad is, or our people, how do they know where this guy is, where they can do a targeted bunker buster from a, I guess an F-16 or whatever plane they shot it from, which has been documented, a targeted bunker buster that went and blew up the basement and went through and killed this guy when he's never ever seen. How did they ever know where he was? This is an inside job. The interesting you bring that up, I didn't clip it, but that AL guy on the Dan Senor, call me
Starting point is 01:14:46 back podcast, he said exactly what you're saying. This was what kind of intelligence, how did they get, and he went on to say, I have my thoughts, I'm working on sources, I'm not going to say anything about it yet. So everyone's asking this question, how was this possible? I agree, inside job, it is the 9-11 of the Middle East, and we're almost done. I mean, Syria, we have troops there, Sudan, big mess, it's all our arms that are there. And we've got to remember, they've killed off that one superstar leader in, I don't know where it was, in Lebanon, they got him in this hotel room and they blew up though they supposedly sent a missile it turns out to be a bomb
Starting point is 01:15:29 in that room in Tehran to take out this other guy. Mohammed is absolutely right when he says these guys have been disappearing one after the other and they're all a threat to the system. So now we just need some big fireworks it would it would be kind of cool to have some surface to air missiles not hit anything but go off. You know more more more cool fireworks. I mean that's that it has to be something like that. You got to go back to the to ground zero on October 7th.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Bull crap the Israelis. Whoa, whoa, how did that happen? No way. This thing was a setup from the Israelis. Whoa, how did that happen? No way. This thing was a setup from the beginning. Unfortunately, had to kill you know, like 50,000 men, women and children in Gaza. But I think
Starting point is 01:16:16 they thought it was worth it. And they don't care. They killed 3,000 Americans on 9-11. They don't care. Sent in millions of troops, wound up killing a million Iraqis. They don't care. People in millions of troops, wound up killing a million Iraqis. They don't care. People get killed left and right. I mean, I'm always going, I take it all the way back to that Korean flight that flew an
Starting point is 01:16:32 inch over Moscow. It was just an accidental move. Even though it turns out the thing was filled with cameras, it was taking pictures of some base. And there was a bunch of paying passengers in that plane. They paid good money to take a nice safe flight to Tokyo, wherever it was headed, and there was a bunch of paying passengers in that plane Yeah, you know they paid good money to take a nice safe flight to Tokyo wherever was headed and they all got killed Nobody cares and by the way They didn't care sending out a dangerous product to inject to the American people and the rest of the world. They don't care guess surprise and
Starting point is 01:17:02 Neither did Trump FYI. So this will be the perfect reason for Trump to become president. Perfect. He's been threatened. He says, hey, I'm going to, he basically says, I'll blow you to smithereens if you threaten me. Although he said, oh, if it was the opposing candidate, whatever. You know, there's, you see the videos, these slick videos, which are clearly CGI, computer generated media, CGM, maybe I should say, supposedly made by Iran, put on the Ayatollah's webpage or the president's webpage. And it's Trump golfing at Mar-a-Lago and this robot with a camera, brrr, you know, little four wheel job rolls along and then it goes up there and it targets the president
Starting point is 01:17:51 and then all of a sudden the drone kills him on the eighth hole. This is all part of the show. The question is, does it come as an October surprise? Which would make sense. You know, Trump's the guy. He's the guy that'll take them out. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Bomb them, bomb them, bomb them again. Everybody's teed up, especially Fox News. Well, I think they've already got Iran in the pocket. I think this whole thing, they're not going to bomb Iran anytime soon. And I think the mullahs knew that. This whole thing is something of a complete scam from top to bottom. Exactly. And with that.
Starting point is 01:18:37 But it's well done. It's very well done because we've already forgotten October 7. We already forgot that. We're already beyond it. We're beyond it. Trump's out there talking a big game about it. And the Iranian was going to kill Trump. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Sure. Sure. We'll see what happens. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your currency in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the climate week in New York. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John St. Demora! Thunder! Welcome to, I'm sorry, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
Starting point is 01:19:19 Also in the morning to ship to sea boots and graphene, the air steps and the water. All the games and nights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Joke out. We're looking at peak trollage of 2223 and currently 2188. Is that good? No. Down 300, 400. Down.
Starting point is 01:19:45 We're down. Trolls are down. Well, the trolls have been very helpful today. It's good to have you all in the troll room. They're trollroom.io or if you prefer, noagenda.stream. That's where you can listen to all of the live shows on the No Agenda stream, which is now going almost as long as this show. The troll room has been going as long as this show as well.
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Starting point is 01:20:54 And yesterday, I was on the podcasting summit. The what? Podcast summit. The summit for podcasters, really about podcasting 2.0. I was talking about how we do the show, you know, our little podcast here. I ran into a whole series of you being on all these random podcasts. Was it on TikTok? And did you get into the, did the algo suck you in? No, it was on YouTube. Oh, also same thing. And, and I was always very,
Starting point is 01:21:25 I'm very complimentary. Am I not about you, especially about you? No. No. Okay. I think there's, I will talk to you about it after the show, I do have some thoughts. Oh, uh oh, did I do something wrong? Well, no, it's nothing bad, but I think you have a pitch
Starting point is 01:21:41 and I think you're de-emphasizing one of the elements of the pitch which is that we don't do premium content. Oh, sometimes I forget that, yes. Because you can really go out, because premium, the reason that comes to mind is there was some 404 media or whatever this one group does, the substackers, and then they go on about how they're gonna do the podcast about this column, and then there's gonna be premium content
Starting point is 01:22:11 for these subscribers. And I'm thinking, why are you hiding, is the information better than the stuff you're normally telling us? Is it secretive? Can you ever refer to it because it's premium? Why are you forcing... Are you actually trying to service a greater audience or are you just trying to cut them off? I mean, I just don't understand the mentality behind...
Starting point is 01:22:37 And this was all started by Patreon. I do not understand the mentality of premium content. Thank you. In other words, I mean, it should all, if it's all premium, yeah, it's like a stock market newsletter, you have to pay for it because it's all premium content. It's not for the, it's not just free information because you can make money from it.
Starting point is 01:22:56 It's money making content, yes. But in the case of this show and all these other podcasts, why are you hiding some of the information from the general listener? Many of whom can't afford to subscribe to anything. We have a lot of people that, I just know they just can't afford it. They can't afford five bucks.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Yeah, and I think this is an excellent point. Thank you for reminding me. Do we have to have the meeting still or can we not have the meeting? There's some other issues that we can discuss. Oh, I'm gonna be nervous. No, I'm going to be nervous. I'll bring them out. I'm going to be nervous the whole show.
Starting point is 01:23:28 I don't know why you keep harping on that. You have now come up with a new thesis that we hate each other. I never said we hate each other. Yes, you suggested it. I said, we're not really friends. No, you said we're not really friends. We might even hate each other. It's a joke. You said that.
Starting point is 01:23:45 It's a joke. It's not perceived as a joke by me. I'm sorry. Well, do you love me? I think we are friends. If you ask for a favor from a friend, I would give you the favor. I've only been to dinner at your house once. You live in Texas.
Starting point is 01:24:01 I used to live in California. And even then, once, and you didn't even let me see your studio. Oh no, you're not going to see the studio. Okay. Under any circumstances. But that's beside the point. We used to go to dinner a lot when you were nearby. That's true.
Starting point is 01:24:16 It was really a build out because I got bored of telling people. I should go back to saying, we don't talk outside of the show to keep it fresh. That's where that comes from. Okay. And you also leave out the part that this is performance art. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:31 You, you're not using it. No, that's your term. You're, you always use the term. Yeah, but you know, it's right. I, I didn't know that you were reluctant to, okay. You don't see it that way. Well, that's okay. I see it that way, but I don't like the term. I like saying, because performance art makes me think of Bjork or Lady Gaga. Okay, I get it. I get it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:57 It doesn't sit well with me. I can see where you could be finding it objectionable. Well, it's not objectionable, but what I usually try to explain, and yes, sometimes I, you're absolutely right. I'm taking the criticism as constructive. What I did say in that same interview is, we have sometimes up to a hundred clips and we're just playing off each other. We don't play them all, but this is an ongoing creative process
Starting point is 01:25:24 and we just flow into each other. And I'm not going to, I'm not going to, yes we do. I'm not going to name the podcaster because I get, because honestly, I don't remember his name, but there was some guy who were on some podcasts where I swear, because I had the time codes. It was 37 minutes before he even put you on the screen and then he talked another 10 minutes before he let you say a word.
Starting point is 01:25:49 It was almost an hour of the whole podcast of him jabbering. This must have been a while back. It wasn't not that far back. It was maybe three or four months ago. And it was yak, yak, yak. I mean, this, and it was, I don't, I don't want to insult a fellow podcaster even though. No, I remember there was a podcast like that,
Starting point is 01:26:16 where this happened. I remember telling Tina like, wow, like the guy talked more than me. He just kept on talking. I don't remember who it was. Yeah. Yeah. And that's okay. But absolutely point taken. And of course we're friends. Kind of. Kissing cousins.
Starting point is 01:26:36 So I'm not going to take anything. Just kissing. I'm not kissing. Now do we not have to have the meeting or is there even more? There's one or two things that are a little more. Oh no. Oh no. Hey, let me critique your interview. Oh wait, you don't do any. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:55 I've done a couple. You promote the show. When's the last time you promoted the show? Oh, I don't know. Exactly. I'm out there living on the edge, man. I'm taking all the hits and people email me when they're angry at you. Well, that's fine. It's working out for me. I refuse to have this meeting after the show. Is there something else you need to say? You can say
Starting point is 01:27:20 it now. No. You can say it now. No. Well, is it constructive? Will it improve the promotion of the show? No. It's just you bitching about me. Is that what it is? No, it's a suggestion.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Okay. All right. You can suggest it now. No, because it's no, because no, you won't respond to it properly in public. I will respond. You really can't make me mad anymore. Oh yeah. Except the other day you thought I was mad when I said, hey, why don't you just do the
Starting point is 01:28:00 show with Moe? I think I did say that. Yes, you did. I can't do it. do the show with Moe. I think I did say that. Yes, you did. I mean, I like Moe, but he's Moe than I can take. There you go. Hello, everybody. All right. So, good point. There's no premium content you can't access and people who can't afford to support us with their treasure of the time, talent and treasure. You can support us in other ways by telling people to listen, by promoting us somehow. One of the ways that we like to receive value in our value for value model is from our artists. We have a lot of them and they
Starting point is 01:28:39 use noagendaartgenerator.com. We were talking a lot about AI on the last show. Uh, PS, uh, producers, you don't have to send me. The notebook LM podcast that you made up. Okay. Everybody is coming up with ideas. You get out. Did you get a number of these? Yes.
Starting point is 01:28:59 And I'm going to, I, since I'm working on a substat column about this, I, one of them, I do want to actually use, uh, we'll have a link to, uh, yeah, I mean, since I'm working on a sub stack column about this, I, one of them I do want to actually use, have a link to. Yeah, anyone can do these. I mean, it just, I know, but people- Notebook LM is terrible. And by the way, so I'm sitting at dinner
Starting point is 01:29:15 with the family on Friday, and I just mentioned Notebook LM and JC, who's in the AI, he's got an AI company. Yeah, yeah. Says, oh, that's got an AI company, says, oh, that's the greatest. What? So I had,
Starting point is 01:29:31 and I called him out. He says the greatest, let's do a deep dive. This is mind blowing. Oh yeah. Ah, yeah. And then after you called him out, what happened? He immediately backed off. He said, yeah, it sucks.
Starting point is 01:29:46 So this one producer, since we're on it, he uploaded a text file that had like three words in it. I think it was like, what does monkey taint smell like? That was literally the input for the podcast. And he did three others. You know, I was like, okay. But I do have to play just a little bit of this one. Okay, you've got to hear this one. Today's deep dive is dot unique. Our listener wants to know,
Starting point is 01:30:16 what does a monkey taint smell like? And frankly, who am I to judge? Let's dive in. You know, it's funny, isn't it? The listener gives us this single open-ended question, no extra info, nothing. Just what does a monkey taint smell like? Right.
Starting point is 01:30:32 No, I was at the zoo the other day, or I've always wondered. Just straight to the monkey taint. So where do we even start with this? I mean, on the one hand, it's a question about a smell. Presumably. So we're already making assumptions. Well, yeah, I guess we are. OK, so it's a question about a smell. Presumably. So we're already making assumptions. Well, yeah, I guess we are. OK, so it's a question about smell, potentially.
Starting point is 01:30:47 And it's about monkeys. Well, stop. How are they making assumptions? That's exactly what the question was. This is why it's so best. What does it smell like in some way? But it's also got this word taint. Yeah, that's the real curveball, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:31:02 Curveball? It's a real curveball, John. It's evocative, suggestive, not your average neutral word for a body part. You just wonder what kind of smell the listener is picturing, you know. Exactly, like are we talking about something acrid, musky, sweet, putrid? The word taint kind of implies something a bit offensive, right? Oh, man. This is how bad it is.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Now, this is Google. I want to say a couple of things before we get off this in a second for people who think it sucks. But this is Google. They're editorializing. There's example after example of them editorializing one thing or another. It's got nothing to do with what this
Starting point is 01:31:43 is supposed to be, notebook. It's got nothing to do with what this is supposed to be. Notebook. It's supposed to be take your notes and then turn them into some sort of narrative so you can, you know, it's, so you can, you learn, you can be educated. It's not supposed to teach you, you know, life lessons. It's called notebook. Hello. What does notebook mean? And the sad thing is it probably costs $5 to create this podcast in compute cost. I think you're low. In compute cost. I think you're low. Yeah, I might be.
Starting point is 01:32:13 I might be. That's, and dude, I'm telling you, not you dude, but dudes. When they really start charging you what it costs for this nonsense, it's going to end. It's over. It's over. No one's going to use it. Someone sent me a song about the pod files. That's really cute. If it had cost you 10 bucks, you've done it. No, exactly. It's not that cute. It's because it's free. We'll talk more about that later. Let's get back to our artists because we were talking about the concept of AI slop, which
Starting point is 01:32:48 I'm hearing now, even on Bloomberg, I heard him talking about it. So the term is out there, AI slop, which is ruining review websites, is ruining comments, is ruining websites where people upload short stories they've written. Everything is now chat GPT, anthropic, clud, slop, Gemini. And so we felt it was only fitting to choose a piece of AI slop, which came from comic strip blogger created with AI. Yes, it's quite good. It's quite a good piece. Yes. Well, give it to Mid Journey or whatever AI system, computer-generated imagery system did this.
Starting point is 01:33:34 It was a little computer lady with a bowl of AI slop. It was boom, deep dive. Yeah, and it was slopping all over the place. It was green goo. Yeah, it was good. She's a robot. Yeah, and it was slopping all over the place. It was green goo. Yeah, it was good. She's a robot. Yeah. It was a, it was a, the compositions dynamite did a terrific job.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Yes. We almost went with Ukraine Loves Bombs by Nico Seym, which we actually liked it better just for the dynamicness of the image, which is a Ukrainian flag in a heart shape holding a bomb with a cute little smile on his face. But we immediately took issue with the Korean Dvorak being almost unreadable. It was unreadable. Very small. If he had jacked that up to, well, it looks like it's about, at least on this little image, it's probably 14 points maybe.
Starting point is 01:34:32 If he had jacked it up to like 40, 50 points, so it was across the bottom, he probably would have won. Very small. You kind of liked Darren O'Neill's Cur on Dvorak 2028, but you said it's a violation because the name Dvorak was much bigger than the name Curry. It was a violation. Which is a violation. I liked the comic strip bloggers AI, the snake eating its own tail, but you didn't even see it.
Starting point is 01:35:06 You didn't see that it was a snake eating its own tail. So I just saw a circle. When you pointed it out, I saw it. Yeah, but that's a fail. And Darren O'Neill also had an AI eating itself with a kind of a serpent trying to eat its own tail, but it never got to it. So that, no, that wasn't gonna happen. And I think those were the main ones that we considered.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Lots of people threw up some other AI based stuff, but of note was Rocket Boy who put two dorky nerds with microphones and then Curry Dvorak under them. Like, is that AI us or something? What was that all about? I was as baffled as you. Very strange, very strange choice he made there. Well I mean it's like when you see it you have to ask yourself why did he even submit it? What were you thinking? And there's two microphones, the ones that big and they're not hooked to anything. It's just like, it's a bad AI.
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Starting point is 01:37:16 And we kick it off. You know, you may think I'm no good at my interviews. You may have- Nobody said that. You may have... Nobody said that. You may have notes for me. I've got a note. I've got a note. I did.
Starting point is 01:37:29 I've got some... Trying to improve things. I've got a note for something. But no, no, you take offense. It's fine. I'm not taking offense. Adam the lesbian. What?
Starting point is 01:37:38 Nothing. Adam the lesbian? Yeah, some people get the gag. Hmm. Okay. Well, the people get the gag. Hmm. Okay. Well, the troll room is just doing question marks. Like, what is he talking about? Anyway, here's my friend, the oil baron, who has been discussed on this show with,
Starting point is 01:37:58 uh, he's definitely give us some time and talent. Where is Driftwood? Driftwood is, uh, I think that's where Jason Calacanis just bought his ranch. Is there a lake or an ocean around there where there's Driftwood? Where they used to be long time ago, long, long time ago. And the oil baron comes in with $1,000 and just says from the oil baron. And I could not be happier. Thank you very much oil baron and he hasn't he didn't ask for a knighting or a
Starting point is 01:38:32 or any type of title, but I will ping him after the show and ask him what he wants to do. He wants to be for a Commodore. Give him a certificate. He should yeah, yes. He should be a Commodore Oil Baron Commodore, Commodore the Oil Baron. We'll get the information. And thank you very much, brother. That's my buddy Paul, the Oil Baron, a cool 1000. So Jason actually did move there, huh?
Starting point is 01:38:58 Oh yeah, yeah. Well, this will be an interesting situation. And another friend I brought in who supports, where's your friend supporting? Where's the Lib-Jos? Lib-Jos aren't moving to Texas. Dennis Harrison is up. He's in Beaumont, Mississippi and he wants to be Commodore Harrison. Jingles, L. Sharpton, special jobs special jobs jobs jobs. Thank you for your value
Starting point is 01:39:27 Love it night name sir. He wants to be a knight I guess he's gotten to that point and sir Harrison of the rednecks table request wagyu ribeye shabu shabu with the rime and noodles and a sahi super dry beer Mmm for your information Roseanne Barr at the Tucker event in Dallas was ridiculously over the top. Okay. LOL, he says.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Kind regards, Dennis. Yo. There's no real conflict. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yeah! Karma. All right.
Starting point is 01:40:05 We move on to Sir 8-Bit Ben from Evansville, Indiana. 51233. Let's see what he has to say. Sir 8-Bit Ben here would like to claim the title of Commodore Vic-20 with this V for V donation. I would also ask the peerage committee if I could claim my overdue baron title, accounting an 8-bit baron Tesla license plate pick attached. I didn't see the picture. Must be cool. Does he say Sir 8-bit Ben on his license plate?
Starting point is 01:40:37 I don't have it. I would like to claim the territory of Southern Indiana if the committee approves. I see no issue. By the way, got to Baron with my monthly chip donation of $6502, kindly asking other retro geeks to join in on that donation. Good one. Yeah, $6502. That's the original Apple II chip. Yes, indeed. For those who don't know, the Commodore VIC-20 was a very important computer for its time, not only being promoted by William Shatner, it was one of the first computers used by many famous tech figures like Linus Torvalds, Sartoru Iwata. Who was that?
Starting point is 01:41:15 Sartoru Iwata? I have no idea. John Carmack? Who was that? I know who that is, but I can't think of it. Elon Musk? I doubt it. Or himself, Sir A.B.Bin and the pod father, Adam Curry. And he sent me a clip.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Did you wait? Stop. Your first computer was a VIC-20? No, my first computer was the Sinclair ZX80. Well, that's even nerdier. And then my second computer was the VIC-20, which was not called the VIC-20. It came from Germany.
Starting point is 01:41:48 In Germany, they called it something else. I forget what it was. The VIC-20. Because viken means, it's the F word in German. Viken, viken, viken. So it would have been the, okay. And he said, here's the clip from show number 15 of the No Agenda Show.
Starting point is 01:42:07 I didn't have a lot of dough around. And then of course the VIC-20, the Commodore VIC-20, the predecessor to the Commodore 64, that was really my first real computer that I hacked around with. I built my own acoustic modem to use with it. And we figured out they had these ROM cartridges that you could plug in with games. And we figured out how to copy the games from ROM onto cassettes and we would
Starting point is 01:42:31 sell those. It was a lot of fun. There you go. How about that sound, huh? Couple of things. Yes. For one thing, and I'll remember that, but I will say that, and I should, because I should have said something about you built your own acoustic modem, really. I sure did. With a couple of speakers. No, it took a telephone. And a microphone.
Starting point is 01:42:55 No, took an existing telephone horn and pulled out the elements, and then put them in two little cardboard boxes, and then had a very small PC board that we connected to the back of the V20. Who's we? Me and my- You have a mouse in your pocket?
Starting point is 01:43:11 My buddy Dick Rademacher. And we both worked at the electronics store so we could steal all the components. So you're a larcenist employee. On Saturdays we- That's what happened to all the pencils over there at Mevio. It worked at approximately 75 Baude, if I recall. Sounds about right. So I could punch a key and then that key would show up on his screen.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Finally, he says, can I get some jobs, Karma? After being a dude named Ben and leader of Ben for over 21 years? I was recently let go. If anyone has an interesting problem to solve and is looking for an IT leader that's not afraid of change, has decades of infrastructure experience, and actually understands how computers work, I can be reached at 8bit.fyi. Thank you, Craig Kohler, aka Sir 8-Bit Ben, Baron of Southern Indiana, to be in a few moments. And thank you very much. And here is your jobs karma. Hope it works out for you, brother.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yeah! New jobs karma. Sir Becoming Heroic in Shererville, Indiana 500. And all he says is he wants to be sir becoming heroic Commodore of the unsinkable two. Beautiful. It's we shall make it so. Anonymous Vista California $500 in the morning gentlemen I've been wanting to donate for
Starting point is 01:44:40 some time and between a recent promotion and the prospect of a Commodore title I couldn't justify being a douchebag any longer please de-douche me. You've been de-douche'd. I would like to be known as Commodore Swizzle of the Tiki realms. Thank you both for all you do. No karma and no jingles and thank you very much Anonymous. Sir R.J. of Grand Point in Grand Point or Point, Manitoba, California. California, Canada. Manitoba, California. It should be a Manitoba, California.
Starting point is 01:45:14 This should be. This $500 donation equals $702.60 Canadians. Thanks Justin Trudeau. I missed my normal 333 three donation for my birthday in July as I've been working on my own exit strategy, which is now complete between the carbon tax, GST, PST, labor tax, business tax, property tax that are all charged here in Canada. I've decided that owning an independent business isn't worth all the bullshit anymore.
Starting point is 01:45:48 So at 56, I officially joined the retired community and it's time to enjoy life. Whoa, what's he going to do? Putter in the lawn? He's going to be puttering in the backyard. Dude, there's much more to do. 56, you're a baby. You're just getting started. He's younger than Adam. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:06 I've bumped up my normal donation amount for late fees and as a bonus, I get the Commodore certificate. As usual for my birthday, can you play the OG Sharpton clip? Sir RJ of Grand Point. Tonight is the measure of whether the country begins in the state of Wisconsin, a national drive to push back, or whether we have more to go to build a movement of resistance. But resist we must, and we will much about that be committed. The classic. That is one of my favorites.
Starting point is 01:46:50 It's the classic. That's what started us off on finding Sharpton stuff. He's a gem. He's a gem. Deserves every penny. Every penny, yeah, you're always complaining about how much he makes. Every penny he deserves, we have done well by him.
Starting point is 01:47:04 He's done well by us. Corey Baker is in Fort Myers, Florida, $500, and he says should be enough for a double nighting. Double nighting. Accounting will follow, and we did not receive his email from Corey Baker. I looked, I'm sure you looked. I'm looking now, as a matter of fact,
Starting point is 01:47:22 and I will say this, we've got a Corey Baker from May 24th about a newsletter fiasco, we got a Cory Baker from another newsletter fail, I guess he keeps track of this in October of last year, nothing since. Okay Cory Baker, so we will keep it in abeyance for you and when you are, clearly you can email us so when it shows up, we'll take care of you. Indeed. Onward with Sir Schwartz in Lange, Denmark. Oh, he's in Lange, Denmark.
Starting point is 01:47:55 500 from Sir Schwartz. Now, Commodore of Jutland, Denmark EON. That's it. Perfect. All right, Steven Crummey, El Cajon. Am I saying that right? Yep, El Cajon. El Cajon, California 500. This donation not only makes me a Commodore, but puts me over the threshold for knighting. Dub me Sir Steve, protector of the ERISA. ERISA. There we go. ERISA. E-R-I-S-A. Oh, it's the law that governs pension funds, the administration of which is my profession. ERISA. Beef enchiladas and rocks margaritas at the roundtable, please. And how about an F the EU from that
Starting point is 01:48:40 demon Vicky Newland? There you go. Thank you very much. See you at the round table. Harkening back on that note we got from the guy bitching about our use of that character to determine the 1701 issue. He goes on about how it should be red flagged and this and that. Red flagged?
Starting point is 01:49:02 Actually knowing all that about the guy. Was helpful, was good. It was, because we play Vicki Newland clips because she does have pertinent information and some of it's coded and some of it's necessary messaging and it's important to play this stuff. Yes, and that's what I said, is even though it was meant as a you guys suck type email, it really helped me. I was like, oh, this makes so much sense. Yes, because it got you into a rabbit hole.
Starting point is 01:49:35 Yes. I know how that's a help in any way. Oh, it was helpful. Yeah. It was helpful. We figured it out. We figured out Iran. Hello.
Starting point is 01:49:43 Oh, I'm not supposed to say that. People are saying I say hello too much. Oh, are you saying hello too much? Well, I went to the transcript. I said it three times in the last show, which I think is too much. Hello. Hello. No, so hello. You know who says that more than you? Mark Levin.
Starting point is 01:50:01 Oh. Hello, America. No, no, it's not just hello as a greeting, but it's like hello. Hello. You know, do you not get it yet? It's no good. I'm what are we drinking? No, no, he's oh, this is a topo chico. Oh, no From they've gone back to the classics. Yes. No, he says it the same way. You know, he says it that he doesn't say it as a greeting He does exactly the same way you do. you know, he says it that he doesn't say it as a greeting. He does exactly the same way you do where in the middle of something say hello. So you don't know what. Well, that's more reason for me not to do it.
Starting point is 01:50:31 For sure. Mike of axehead watch in Clinton Township, Michigan, the wooden watch guy. Yeah. Three, three, three. Yes. Three, three watches are great, by the way, and he's apparently back in business. 333.33, Dear John and Adam,
Starting point is 01:50:50 I've been quite a time since I donated, since I haven't had the funds. Due to some bad deals and bad luck, I've been unable to keep, afford to keep axeheadwatch.shop, axeheadwatch. dot shop open. I have not been able to get back to being a dude named Ben in the mortgage industry since peak COVID
Starting point is 01:51:11 after a year of unemployment, I became a forklift certified earlier this summer, which is, I've driven forklifts. It's fun. They're fun to drive. They're fun to drive. And then back to steady employment and income. I didn't know you had to have a certificate.
Starting point is 01:51:27 I never did. I have also been once again nominated, because I wasn't a professional. I drove a fork. That doesn't mean I was... No, it's probably a violation of all kinds of labor laws that you drove it. I have also been once again nominated for the United States Congress on MI-10. Michigan District 10. Congress on MI 10. Michigan district 10. Yeah, Michigan 10.
Starting point is 01:51:47 And I've, I'm sorry, Michigan 10. Now I can afford to open the online store back up. AccedWatch.shop. I'd like to encourage promo code ITM and it's gone from a 20% discount to 33% off all wooden watches. AccedWatch.shop for my going out of business sale. So he's gonna get rid of all wooden watches. AxedWatch.shop for my going out of business sale. So he's gonna get rid of all his watches.
Starting point is 01:52:08 These watches, we have both have one. Yeah, we both have one. We both have one. They're quite unique. And if the apocalypse comes, you can use it as a handy fire starter. Yeah, I never thought of that. I do believe, he says, this brings me to Baron.
Starting point is 01:52:24 I would like to be Sir Mike of the Fairfax Liberator of Michigan 10, Barron of Liechtenstein. Please provide me with jobs karma for this election and upcoming business and some sort of health karma for my smoking hot wife, Dame Kelly, who is back in the hospital, unfortunately, for a few days. Sir Mike of Watch, ex-Watch head, Liber, unfortunately, for a few days. Sir Mike of Watch, ex-Watch head, Liberator of Michigan's 10th District. All right, for Dame Kelly, we'll add in a goat. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yay!
Starting point is 01:53:00 Karma. Sir Jeremy Chumpati is a associate executive producer today with a run on number 234.56 Oakville, Ontario. ITM gentlemen, it's my 62nd birthday. It falls on a podcast day. It would be remiss of me not to donate. Thank you for your courage. Sir Jeremy Chumpati, Baronet, Fatty Oakville, Ontario, Scandinavia.
Starting point is 01:53:25 All right, you're on the list. I'll tell you, if you like to burp a lot, this Topo Chico is the way to go. It'll do it. It'll do it. I know. It's very bubbly. Anonymous in Williston, North Dakota, 21060. A little over a year ago, I made an investment over $10,000 that someone who was supposed to mentor me was starting a business. Without going into detail, it's obvious he's run off with all my money! Oh no.
Starting point is 01:53:56 That sucks. It's within the limits to file in small claims court, which I could do myself, but I'm really looking for someone in the community to help me out with, with, with it. If they have some legal expertise, hopefully for free, small claims, you don't. I thought small claims had a limit of 5,000. Is that, is that now 10,000? It depends on the jurisdiction. In most states, I think it is 5,000. And it's pretty easy to win.
Starting point is 01:54:24 It is. You just file it And it's pretty easy to win. It is. You just file it, you're probably going to win. Yeah. I can do all the legwork, but advice concerning the red tape and pitfalls would help me out. It's not really that many. It would really just come down to exchanging some emails here and there and just putting out and just putting it out there if someone got the time. If I get my money back, I'm going to be a big donator.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Thanks to all you do, everyone else please donate. Now okay, he's giving us no information and he's anonymous. Yeah, that's really helpful. How is anyone supposed to help you? Maybe Jay has his information. So you can email notes at noagendashow.net if you think you can help him out. Yeah, maybe that might work. And yes, do that. It won't hurt.
Starting point is 01:55:17 And there's Eli the coffee guy from Bensonville, Illinois as we are just about rounding up our list here, associate executive Producer at 209.29. And Eli says, things on the national and world stage continue to become more interesting in the lead up to the US election. One of my customers, a grizzled NAMM vet, asked me the other day if I'm stocked up on survival food for potential turbulent times ahead. I told him, I don't know if you can ever have enough food, but I was pretty sure I wouldn't run out of coffee.
Starting point is 01:55:45 Whether it's hurricanes, Hezbollah or hackers, make sure coffee is part of your preparedness plan. This is a great one. Visit gigawattcofferoasters.com stock up on coffee today. Use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. Stay safe, stay caffeinated says Eli the coffee guy. Oh, and he has a jingle here What is what is? BDSM don't enslave me Kamala
Starting point is 01:56:14 Understand oh just don't just think that don't enslave me Kamala said No, I'm gonna There you go. Kamala. Yeah, racist kid. Kamala. Racist kid mispronouncing her name on purpose. Linda Lupatkin comes in from Lakewood, Colorado as usual and surprisingly enough she asks for Jobs Karma.
Starting point is 01:56:38 And then she says for a faster, more effective job search, visit ImageMakersInc.com. That's ImageMakersInc.com. That's Image Makers Inc. with a K. Your go-to for executive resumes and job search needs. And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yay!
Starting point is 01:56:59 You got karma. All right, we rounded out with one final donation, Associate Executive Producer, $200 from Stefan Anders in München, Deutschland. Hello, Deutschland! Here's the hoff. And he says, thank you from Munich, Germany. Stefan, Stefan, thank you. And thank you to all of our executive and associate executive producers who have helped us out here today. It's very much appreciated. Of course. We appreciate any treasure you can send in our value for value model, time, talent, treasure. Any amount is okay with us.
Starting point is 01:57:31 Just send whatever value you got out of the show back to us and we will be very grateful. Thanks again to these execs and associate execs of episode 1699. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. NoAgendaDonations.com I have a little three clipper on election fraud. That's kind of interesting.
Starting point is 01:58:08 But before we do that, I do have my every show AI, Gavin Newsome. To see if you can get arrested because you're breaking California law, breaking the law. Every clip is a scoff law. So here he is, this one came out about two weeks ago and I missed it. This is a news, I didn't realize that Newsom is endorsing Trump. Today I'm here to do something that some may think or believe is unheard of. Yes, the news reports are correct. I, Gavin Newsom, am here to endorse none other than
Starting point is 01:58:46 Donald J. Trump for president of the United States. Trump's got this knack for making America the center of attention. Whether it's on Twitter or on the global stage, he's like that friend who always has the best stories at dinner. He wouldn't want that kind of energy. But seriously, in this endorsement, I see an opportunity, an opportunity for dialogue, for understanding, for maybe just maybe finding common ground. Trump is hands down the best candidate in this race. Because if there's one thing I've learned in politics, it's that sometimes you've got to dance with the one who brought you, or in this case, the one who's brought the most entertainment. Trump, 2024. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Now, did you just find this or did you make this one?
Starting point is 01:59:28 I actually searched for it. I think on this one, I think the speed and cadence is a little faster than it should be. Yes, it is. He doesn't quite talk that fast, but it's good. And I can see why something like this would upset him. Before you move to the election fraud, just to wrap up the AI, I'd like to play one clip because there have been some developments that need brief discussion amongst us. OpenAI, the world's most valuable AI startup, has lost another chief executive, chief technology officer. Mira Murati is one of more than 20 key staff who've departed this year, leaving CEO Sam
Starting point is 02:00:11 Altman with just one of his fellow co-founders. Is it a real problem or just growing pains? Let's ask technology editor Peter O'Brien. Peter, OpenAI are currently trying to raise a lot of money, so surely this can't look good for investors. Hi, Charis. Well, you're right. OpenAI, at the moment, they're trying to get about $6.5 billion from investors hoping to
Starting point is 02:00:34 close that round by the end of next week. That would value them at $150 billion. I think let's just start off by putting that into context because it's a tool order what they're asking for. That would almost double their value. It would also put them just not too far behind something like SpaceX, which has launched about 95 rockets into space this year. And, you know, obviously behind in third place behind the ByteDance, which owns TikTok, which has a billion third place behind the ByteDance, which owns TikTok, which has a billion monthly active users worldwide. So yes, they're wanting to be really, really one of the three big startups in the world. And it doesn't exactly inspire confidence that there have been all of these
Starting point is 02:01:16 departures from OpenAI. But we've also seen further reports this week that OpenAI is looking to restructure into a for-profit with a non-profit arm, changing from its current format, which is a non-profit with a rather large for-profit arm. What does this mean? This really means that investors are probably going to start thinking, actually, they are more interested in my return on investment than their current very nebulous goal of trying to create an AI for all of humanity, which is smarter than humanity, but which is also safe and beneficial. The investors want a return eventually and a shift to a for-profit structure would give
Starting point is 02:01:56 some confidence. They've brought in the Saudis for this round, which means they're really desperate in my book. Apple dropped out of this investment round like, nah, we're not going to participate. And from what I understand, you don't even get stock, you get a new concept called PPUs, which is profit participation units. Not even a warrant. participation units. Not even a warrant. So when they start to make profits, then you're going to...
Starting point is 02:02:29 Who's going to be suckered at? Okay. The Saudis, the Saudis, of course. I mean, Microsoft is going to put another billion in, in compute, so it's not actually money. You know, there is cost. Why they're just getting some time. Yeah, some time on the punch card.
Starting point is 02:02:43 Yeah, they have some computer time. Yeah. But like the old main, some time on the punch card. Computer time. But like the old mainframe days. Hey man. No, I'm reminded since the app you said Apple dropped out. I, have you seen this commercial where, uh, and it promoting, of course, the non-existent Apple intelligence AI, where there's a girl, she's at a party. She looks around the corner and she sees some guy. And the guy standing party, she looks around the corner and she sees some guy. Oh. And the guy's standing there. She knows she recognizes him from another party from maybe a month ago.
Starting point is 02:03:10 So she turns around and hides behind a wall and then grabs her phone and says to the phone, hey, what was the name of that guy that I met at that party a month ago? Yeah. Have you seen this? No, no, no. She says, what was the name of the guy I met at that party a month ago? This is an Apple commercial? Yeah, it's an Apple commercial.
Starting point is 02:03:37 And then the phone comes back, oh, that's Zach such and such. No. And she goes and then she turns around gets past the wall and as a guy comes up to her and says hey Zach how you doing? He says oh I'm surprised you remembered my name. No. And I'm thinking what bull crap. Oh man. Are they kidding? I guess not. I'm not the only one. I've seen this commercial twice now. I'm looking forward on YouTube. I don't see it. Hmm.
Starting point is 02:04:07 Yeah. Well, when you, you'll see it, if you watch, well, you don't watch as much network TV as I do, so you might not see it. No, I don't. Just on the, on the Apple thing. It's dumb. On the Apple thing, Robert. You have to be an idiot to believe that this could even happen. Robert, who was listening to us on episode 1698,
Starting point is 02:04:29 said, I was yelling at my phone, I was yelling at my phone, because you were talking about if Apple made that Sarco pod, you know, the death pod that they used in Switzerland. Yeah, yeah, the pod. Yeah, and he said the name obviously would be called Die Pod, hello.
Starting point is 02:04:49 He said hello, not me. He said the die pod. I'm like, where were you in the troll room, man? That's a good line. You would have taken credit for it. No, no, no, no, no. See, I even gave him credit right here, I even gave him credit right here. I even gave him credit right here.
Starting point is 02:05:07 I have one letter to read since you're bringing this sort of thing up. This is from producer Chris. He says, I know it's probably too late for today. Apparently it's not. But I wanted to address the CEO of Novo Nordisk, Novo Nordisk, stating before Congress that insurance companies control drug prices. We talked about this in the last show. Ultimately you could say they do like a grocery store determines the prices of a can of soup after a sale and allowing a coupon, but the drug companies absolutely control where the
Starting point is 02:05:41 price of a drug enters the market. Drug companies set the average wholesale price, AWP, let's say a thousand a month. Then they sell the drug to wholesalers at some price less than that. Let's say 700 is the wholesale acquisition cause whack, which is then inflated a bit when selling to pharmacies. And there are middlemen involved. Uh, insurers set their prices, a percentage of the AWP and going on and on. He says, if no vote nor disc wanted to set the price of Ozempic at 50 bucks a month,
Starting point is 02:06:12 they absolutely control lowering the AWP, which would cascade through the market as much as lower price to a lower price to the consumers saying insurers are ultimately responsible for the price of a drug is akin to saying car dealers are responsible for the price of a car and ignoring what their cost is to acquire it from the manufacturer. Sir Chris. Good point. Thank you, Sir Chris. Good point. Anyway, I'm just going to double down. Actually, I have a text group.
Starting point is 02:06:43 I got text group. With the oil baron and my buddy Vic in Dallas. Is this Usenet? That's IRC, baby. Usenet. What was the other one? What was the other something? Fido, FidoNet.
Starting point is 02:07:01 FidoNet. FidoNet. We were on Fido net the other day. I'm like, this AI is going to collapse. Then they're posting back like, oh yeah, that's like Steve Ballmer said, no one will want the mobile phone. He's like, I'm going to add you to this list. And I'm like, okay. They're believers, not the oil baron. Most people are. I tend to believe you're so far ahead of the curve on this that it's going to go a lot farther than you think.
Starting point is 02:07:33 But they're having trouble with this round. Apple's dropping out already. It's ridiculous. The round is ludicrous. They're asking for too much. But they need the money to keep the scam going. They have to keep coming out with, oh, did you strawberry?
Starting point is 02:07:47 Oh, it's the latest, strawberry is the best. Go in and ask chat GPT strawberry, how many states have an M in it? It'll come back with, you know, like Rhode Island. It's stupid. There's no I in the AI. It's artificial. Rhode Island has an N in it.
Starting point is 02:08:11 Island. An M. Mike. Oh, M. M. Rhode Island, okay. Yeah. So, okay. That's all fine.
Starting point is 02:08:21 It's all good. I'm just going to speak to my guns. I'm telling you, you're way ahead of the curve on it. I agree with you. I know you do, but I don't think I'm that far ahead of the curve. I think you're farther than you should be. What do you think it is then? You think they can do another year of this? Two years. Two years? Two years into the Trump presidency.
Starting point is 02:08:43 Well, Trump has bought in with, oh, we need all kinds of power, power, need power for this. We're gonna have huge data centers, which I don't know what we're gonna do with them. Well, what's gonna happen after AI collapses and you have all this extra excess energy, it's gonna be a boon.
Starting point is 02:08:59 Well, there's a truth-edged sword here. It could be a boon to the economy because all the free energy, free energy is a bigon to the economy because of all the free energy. Free energy is a big deal. But it could also collapse the whole place. No, we'll be mining Bitcoin. At least I will. I found three clips on election fraud on PBS that I thought were...
Starting point is 02:09:20 Is it PBS or NPR? PBS. I think it's PBS. PBS. That I thought were fascinating because it brings up this Dominion, because the idiocy of the whole idea of Dominion having a machine that basically fills out the ballot for you. It acts as a middleman. I think this is the machine I used in Albany last time I voted.
Starting point is 02:09:43 It's a man in the middle. It's a man in the middle. It's a man in the middle. It's a man in the middle machine and it's kind of stupid, but for some reason everyone's using them. What reason could California have to be using them? Let me think. Let's play these three. These are clips that are excessively long, but I thought were interesting enough that I could make long clips. Was that a cue?
Starting point is 02:10:11 Yes, it was. I thought it was pretty obvious. It's a few weeks before primary election day in Bartow County, Georgia, and election workers are conducting a logic and accuracy test of computers that stand between voters and their ballots. Where it says text size, touch that and then do big. test of computers that stand between voters and their ballot. Where it says text size, touch that and then do big. They are Imagecast X ballot marking devices, or BMDs, made by Dominion Voting Systems. Everyone who votes in person in Georgia uses one of these touch screen computers
Starting point is 02:10:43 to record their choices and then prints a marked paper ballot which gets scanned and tabulated. So are these machines worth the added cost and complexity? I advocate it will. Joseph Kirk is the election supervisor here. He says the ballot marking devices offer advantages over paper ballots marked by hand. It guides the voter through the process. It makes sure that there's no question about their intent.
Starting point is 02:11:12 A small percentage of selections on hand-marked ballots are disqualified because voters make ambiguous markings. Dominion's ballot marking devices may address that issue, but many election security experts say they inject stubborn uncertainties into the voting process. Fundamentally, it's a problem any time that you're going to put a potentially vulnerable computer between the voter and the only records of their vote. Jay Alex Halderman is a professor of electrical engineering and computer science at the University of Michigan.
Starting point is 02:11:49 He is among those who advocate for hand-marked paper ballots. I guess it seems ironic that the best computer scientists in the world will tell you the best technology for an election is pen and paper. Well, that's absolutely right. And the reason for that is we know how paper can be secured, we know how digital systems can be attacked. Wow, for PBS, that's impressive. So does this all stem from the hanging chads? Is that why the computers were brought into it or just purely for corruption? The hanging chads goes way back,
Starting point is 02:12:25 but I think it has to do with people smudging or when they, I don't know, really, there's no real reason as far as I'm concerned. Except for. But they do this, and I'm thinking, and I've used the machine so I can tell you what you do. You go in there, you do the voting on the machine, and then it prints out the ballot
Starting point is 02:12:44 on paper with the votes. You look it over. You look it over and you voted for this guy. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. And then you stick it in the, you file it and then it counts it. Wait, wait, wait. Don't you stick it in a machine that counts it? Well, the machine, yes.
Starting point is 02:13:01 So you stick it in a machine that counts it and it should just count it. Yeah. So where do you think? That's it. That's where, that's where the problem is, is in the- No. That's what I thought. It might be a problem in the counting machine. This, when I heard this, this next part, what, what the real problem is,
Starting point is 02:13:21 because, cause you can go back and make these, you can see what I did. I voted here and I voted there. And next time I do this, I'm gonna vote by hand. I'm gonna go in and vote. I'm gonna take a picture of the ballot because of the little interesting, the gotcha in here. Are you allowed to take your camera into the polling booth? I don't think you're allowed. Why not?
Starting point is 02:13:40 I don't think you're allowed. Why not? Well, because of exactly what you're saying, because they don't want any evidence. I have seen no signage of any sort saying, I can't have a camera in my private little voting booth. They have signs here in Texas where we vote, no cameras, no guns, which is a big bummer.
Starting point is 02:14:03 Well, the guns I can see. That was like, hold on a second, let me pull all these guns out. No, I don't think you can use them. I've never seen such a sign and I don't see why it would make a difference. I'll bail you out, don't worry. We got the constitutional lawyer. Thank you, thank you. You're a friend.
Starting point is 02:14:21 Yeah, I am a friend. We're friends. We're friends, okay? We're good friends, I am a friend. We're friends. So we're friends. We're good friends. Bail each other out. You wouldn't at first glance, you know, you do what you just said is what I logically would think too. But no, it turns out there's a more interesting way of cheating that I was like, what? Here we go. The risks aren't even comparable. Halderman has spent a lot of time studying the risks. He is an expert
Starting point is 02:14:45 witness for the plaintiffs in a pending federal lawsuit seeking an injunction against using the current voting system. Halderman says he and his team found nine vulnerabilities in the Dominion system. We met at a law office in Atlanta in March. He showed me some of what he demonstrated in open court. We thought like an attacker. What would an attacker want to do? How could an attacker circumvent the layers of protection that are in this machine and in a real polling place? Halderman demonstrated a few seemingly easy ways to breach the security of the Dominion ballot marking device. He used a pen to recycle the power,
Starting point is 02:15:26 which gave him administrative control of the computer. And he used a widely available USB device favored by computer security experts and hackers to rewrite the software of the machine. All of this mischief could occur without an obvious trace. That's because the scanner that tabulates the votes does not look at the human readable text. Instead, it derives its data from this QR code.
Starting point is 02:15:54 Ah! We can change just the QR code and leave all of the voter visible text identical to what the voter entered on screen. Wow. So as a voter, there's nothing at all that you can see that's going to indicate there was a problem. Halderman and his team worry that the hacks could propagate through an entire county or even statewide. While the ballot marking devices are not directly plugged into the internet,
Starting point is 02:16:20 as they are updated and operated, they regularly exchange data with online systems through USB memory sticks and smart cards. That can potentially provide a route for hackers far away on the internet to gain access to BMDs. The kinds of attackers that worry me in this scenario include some of the most sophisticated adversaries in the world, foreign governments. And Democrats. Wow. So there's a QR code on your on your ballot. Yeah. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:16:58 That's pretty crazy. So I thought that was interesting. Of course, now we have to you know, you can't give this report without like slamming the Republicans. Yeah, got to. So they, so there's been examples of corruption in different areas of the country by both Democrats and Republicans. We've known this forever. And so they do an exemplification. They defend the machine and they exemplify what could possibly happen
Starting point is 02:17:25 using a Republican example, which is really done for the purposes of showing it could be done. But it's beside the point, NPR or PBS did its job of making sure they slammed the Republicans in this matter. But here we go with the final analysis. We asked Dominion for a response. A spokesperson emailed us this. The claim that someone could hack an election with a pen is flatly false.
Starting point is 02:17:52 A court directive gave Mr. Halderman, as plaintiff's paid expert, unfettered access to system security features, including passwords, security cards, election files, and more. This did not take into account the many layers of physical and operational safeguards. There is no evidence that any of these apparent vulnerabilities have ever been exploited. Georgia... They threw out a no evidence. Yeah. That's amazing. That's good. Okay. There is no evidence that any of these apparent vulnerabilities have ever been exploited.
Starting point is 02:18:28 Georgia state election officials say they are hypothetical scenarios. Almost all of these are mitigated by the processes that are put in place around the election system itself. Gabe Sterling is the chief operating and financial officer for the Secretary of State. He says the many layers of people and processes surrounding these machines make it impossible for a voter to reboot them with a pen or insert a USB device without being detected. So what Alex Halderman demonstrated you believe is not a real-world scenario? The computer experts focus solely, solely, solely
Starting point is 02:19:05 on the computer. They focus nothing on voting processes and human behavior, but they don't look at the entirety of how the system works. The reality of it is, is there's so many safeguards around it. But what if there was an inside job? This is exactly what happened in early 2021
Starting point is 02:19:21 in rural Coffee County, Georgia. The election supervisor and the local chair of the Republican Party invited Trump campaign allies and a data forensics team into the secure area where the Dominion machines and the election management server are stored. For several days, they copied proprietary software and confidential data. It is one of the most infamous security breaches in US election history. Oh, good job. Good job.
Starting point is 02:19:54 I just want to play a 21 just to show you PBS's way of doing business. I have to play this PBS slant on gun violence that was yesterday or I guess Friday show. This is typical of PBS and the fact that there are stooges for the Democrats. Listen to this. Gun violence and crime in America are both key issues in the 2024 campaign. As part of our ongoing series about election year issues, our Lisa Desjardins has looked into where the candidates stand and she joins us now. It's great to have you here Lisa. So let's start with former
Starting point is 02:20:28 president Donald Trump. He talks often about crime despite his own felony convictions. What kind of reporting is that? Dipshit. Wow, Lisa changed her voice. She's still around. Lisa Desjardins is still around. Oh yeah, and she takes the anchor job every so often. I remember she was sick, so I guess she's better. I'm happy to hear that. I always kind of liked her until she went all nutty. She went a little wacky there for a while. You remember?
Starting point is 02:20:59 Well, she's... Yeah, she went wacky. I think around the time that Snowden came out and she was You're talking about the right the same girl Lisa DeGioia then the one that she's got a big nose. Yes remarkable I think we're talking are we talking about someone else? Didn't she work at wired for a while? No, no No, she's always been a PBS girl Mmm. Okay. I'm thinking of someone else then Who was it was? Oh, I think you're someone else then. Who was it? Who was the one?
Starting point is 02:21:25 Oh, I think you're talking about Desjardin, Zennie. Zennie, that's who I'm thinking of. Yeah, Zennie. Zennie Desjardin. She did go kind of nutty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, Lisa Desjardin is a petite presenter on PBS NewsHour.
Starting point is 02:21:45 Not to be left out of the election night shenanigans, Amazon Prime will be doing live coverage since who has network television? Who has network television? Why? Do they have L. Michael's doing it? Ah, guess again. If you were to choose the most trustworthy name in news and you wanted them to host your election night coverage on Amazon Prime,
Starting point is 02:22:11 who would you choose? Okay, so it's got to be somebody that's not working for the networks because it's a conflict of interest. Not anymore. I'll give you a hint. He's, he, two hints, he is no longer working for the networks. Yes, that would be right. So you got to say he. So it could be, what's his name? The guy used to be the anchor on NBC. Come on, come on, you're close, you're close. I think you might have it.
Starting point is 02:22:35 I think I do have it. I just, for some reason, his name is eluding me. No, that doesn't count. But I'm, it counts for me. I can think of his name if I think hard enough. Doesn't count. Doesn't count. But I'm... It counts for me. I could think of his name if I think hard enough. Doesn't count. Sorry. Doesn't count.
Starting point is 02:22:48 We're sorry. Brian Williams. Yes, exactly. That's exactly who I was thinking of. Brian Williams, who's the worst for this sort of thing. Isn't that great? Poor guy. He actually would have been worse, would be lower.
Starting point is 02:23:06 Oh man. When does he get to come back? There's going to be a moment where he's going to make a comeback. He's going to have to because he's getting, you know, the point is going to be... He's running out of money. He's going to run out of money. You know he got a golden parachute, there's no doubt about that. So he's living off of what's left.
Starting point is 02:23:28 But guys like that, they're always going to spend that to limits. So he can't go on forever. Yeah. I wonder how much must it suck to be him. Duh. I mean, really. Yeah, with the locking doors and the rape room. Yeah, all of that.
Starting point is 02:23:53 Tina still talks about him. I used to watch the Today Show and I would love watching, what's his name? Matt Lauer. He said, I love that. And then I found out he had a rate button under his desk. So it's going to take him a little bit longer, but he has to make a re-entrée eventually. I just want to mention one thing before you get to your three more clips. There's three TikTok clips, so there's a warning in advance.
Starting point is 02:24:25 Yes. The constitutional lawyer, Rob, he's been doing a lot. He's been doing some good work and I'm not even going to get to some of the work he's done for us today. But one of his buddies from law school, I think, Houston lawyer, Tony Busby, who he says is a hard ass lawyer, is now set to represent over 50 clients in a new Diddy lawsuit, which apparently includes some who are miners. Yeah, there's been a lot of hinting about miners. Yeah. Well, we have an inside track. So whenever there's something going on with the buzz, the Busby,
Starting point is 02:25:08 hopefully we'll hear a little bit from our constitutional lawyer. Do we have the best producers in the universe or what? It's embarrassingly, it's embarrassing riches. What's the embarrassment of riches? Yes, it is. It's an embarrassment of riches. Nobody else has this. No. Talk.
Starting point is 02:25:28 Talk. Tick tock. All right. Here we go. John has tick tock clips. Now this one, this is a woman who brought this clip and she narrates it. And I thought this clip was kind of oddly,
Starting point is 02:25:44 it was odd and offensive and it hasn't been going around. It's about Kwanzaa and Kamala. I unearthed quite the gem. Growing up Kwanzaa was always a special time. We came together with generations of friends and family and neighbors. There were never enough chairs, so my sister and I and the other children would often sit on the floor. And together we lit the candles of the canara. And then the elders would talk about how Kwanzaa is a time to celebrate culture, community, and family. And they, of course, taught us about the seven principles.
Starting point is 02:26:21 My favorite principle was always the second, Kujitagalaya, self-determination. And it is a deeply American principle, one that guides me every day as vice president. To everyone celebrating, we hope your week is filled with love and light. From our family to yours, happy Kwanzaa. Kwanzaa was invented in 1966. She was born in 1964. Her family did not celebrate Kwanzaa. Kwanzaa was invented in 1966. She was born in 1964. Her family did not celebrate Kwanzaa. I mean the guy that invented it was a communist so maybe. How it's good to hear that again even without the TikTokers commentary. What a phony. And was that Doug? Was that Doug? Yeah, it was Doug. Doug the Jew? Happy Kwanzaa y'all! Happy Kwanzaa! Oi!
Starting point is 02:27:08 Please. I mean, what a liar. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. I found that to be offensive. Yes. And you're not even black. I'm not even black and I'm not a Jew. No. That we know of. Here is the, here is the,
Starting point is 02:27:28 I don't know if this guy's serious. It's one of those TikTokers that you go, ah, is this guy full of crap? Because do we really want to call babies, they-bies? Everyone, I just wanted to talk today about ways we can use words to make... This is a guy? Yes, this is a guy.
Starting point is 02:27:47 Hello everyone. And he says, hi everyone. Hello everyone. People feel included in the conversation. One of the words I see thrown around a lot that can make people feel left out is the word mother. It's better if we use the term birthing people. There are a lot of people that can give birth that aren't traditional mothers. That includes
Starting point is 02:28:11 trans men. Another word that I see just tossed around is babies. It's much better if you use a gender non-specific term for children that young until they can decide what their gender is and pick it for themselves. So it's much better if you can use the term babies. That allows them to have autonomy and it allows them to choose their gender instead of just assigning it to them at birth. Another term that I see used a lot is cervix or womb or uterus. It's much better if you use a more general term like reproductive organs. So these are just some really small
Starting point is 02:28:58 changes that we can make in our vernacular that helps people feel more included in the conversation and not left out. And it just goes a long way. So anyways, try making those changes and let me know how it goes. Now, do you ever comment on these videos? Because I have a comment since I don't have an account. Isn't the term baby gender neutral by itself? It's a baby. This brings me to a story.
Starting point is 02:29:28 Yes, it is. It's totally neutral. So, and this situation that we're moaning and groaning and bitching about goes back, and in this case, this story goes back to about 1982, which is what? Forty years ago?
Starting point is 02:29:47 Oh, don't remind me. So back then, I was doing a story for, I guess this story actually goes back to 1986. That is the year I was visiting Boeing and one of the Boeing guys used to write for a piece. Hold on a second. You can't just do that. Can't do what? You can't just launch into a story without your jingle. JCD Storytime.
Starting point is 02:30:17 Hey everybody, it's a bonus. JCD Storytime. Yeah, and it sounds like a story I've never heard. I have told this story before on the show, but it was probably 10 years ago. So I'm doing it. This guy, one of the engineers there who was showing us at the time, Boeing Calc, also got a tour of the Everett facility, the factory, got to see some planes being made. Boeing Calc?
Starting point is 02:30:47 Boeing Calc was an original spreadsheet program that was quite good. Like VisiCalc? It was like more, yes, it was like VisiCalc. And it was quite good, it came out before the Microsoft took over the place, but it was a good product and it was used internally. And so it was actually a commercial product for a year or two.
Starting point is 02:31:09 And in the process, the guy was telling me that he used to write for Mac, I'm sorry, PC World, which was the competitor to PC magazine. Yes, of course. And he said that he had turned in some copy where he said the, uh, the, he mentioned specifically instead of using congressmen or congresswoman, he used state representative. And the copy editor came back at him and says, no, no, no, you can't do that. It has to be, it has to be, uh, uh, or it was a Congress person. He said, it has to be a Congress person. He says, why a Congress person? He said, and the copy editor, who's a woman said, we,
Starting point is 02:31:55 we only use gender neutral terms at the magazine. As if representative isn't gender neutral. Exactly what he said. He said to her, how is representative not gender neutral? And she said to him, and I think this is reflected in the clip I just played, 40 years later, she said to him, yes, it's true, but we want to make it, we want to make it known to the reader. That we care.
Starting point is 02:32:26 That we're using gender neutral terms. So we use person, congress person, aesthetic representative. So it's a form of virtue signaling. It's a form of code. So you say, look, I'm on your side. I am this person. I'm a Democrat is what it amounts to. Yes. So you have to write, you might as well put I'm a Democrat right at the beginning because that's what you're doing when you can't use the word representative. You have to use Congress person.
Starting point is 02:33:00 I was, I've been offended by that ever since. I'm glad you got it off your chest. I don't recall this story. Yeah, well, I'll probably tell it again 10 years from now. Uh, I don't think so. If we have four more years, not 10. By the way, thank you everybody for reminding me and correcting me that we are in our fifth election cycle on the show.
Starting point is 02:33:21 Not fourth, fifth. We've had five. Wait, am I saying that right now? Hold on. Yeah, hold on. Hold on. I got it from, here we go. Obama-McCain, 2008. Obama-Romney, 2012. Trump-Clinton, 2016. Trump-Biden, 2020. And we're now in the fifth, Biden Harris 2024. This is our fifth our fifth trip around the election cycle. Yes. That's why we know so much About about babies and that's why people come here to hear about babies from tick tockers All right, let's do your last one just to offend This one is not as good as the other two, but it's, it's, but I thought it was an interesting, it's educational.
Starting point is 02:34:08 This is a food activist who's very famous and they've somebody put a bunch of her TikTok stuff together to tell her, her message is that American corporations are poisoning. What I believe this is somewhat true, poisoning the American public. Thank you very much. Oh, for sure. In the US, there's 11 ingredients. In the UK, there's three and salt is optional. An ingredient called domethylpolysiloxane is an ingredient preserved with formaldehyde,
Starting point is 02:34:35 a neurotoxin. This is Skittles. Notice the long list of ingredient differences. Ten artificial dyes in the US version and titanium dioxide. This ingredient is banned in Europe because it can cause DNA damage. Artificial dyes are made from petroleum and products containing these dyes require a warning label in Europe and they have been linked to cancer and disruptions in the immune system. This on the screen back here is Gatorade. In the US they use Red 40 in caramel color. In
Starting point is 02:35:06 Germany they don't. They use carrot and sweet potatoes to color their Gatorade. This is Doritos. The US version has three different artificial dyes and MSG. The UK version does not. General Mills is definitely playing some tricks on us. They launched a new version of tricks just recently in Australia. It has no dyes. They even advertise that when the US version still does. This is why I became a food activist. My name is Vani Hari and I only want one thing. I want Americans to be treated the same way as citizens in other countries by our own
Starting point is 02:35:46 American companies. Yeah, this was from the Ron Johnson hearing that your buddy Jillian Michaels appeared on. The beginning of it starts off at the 11 ingredients versus three and that was about McDonald's French fries. It's disgusting. It's a really good hearing. People should take a look at it. Because that will save your life just by not eating this junk. But all of it is just like advertising gambling.
Starting point is 02:36:16 As we started the show today. If you walk in the supermarket, it's just like a cartoon. All kinds of colors that attract the children. Mommy, mommy, mommy, I want this one, mommy. You know, it's nasty. It should be illegal. I don't know why that qualifies as a TikTok clip. There was just a clip that you found on TikTok.
Starting point is 02:36:39 I'm sorry. It just came from Israel. I got it. Yeah, it was no... All right. Since you offended me with that, I'm going to offend you with a clip, which is an illegal clip. It's illegal to play this clip.
Starting point is 02:36:54 Illegal by show standards. However, I believe- Oh, it's not Rachel Maddow, is it? No, it's not a felony. It's just, it's a misdemeanor. Although it's close to felony. But the W- John Kerry. Yes. WEF, the World Economic Forum has a summer session. And this was about the sustainable
Starting point is 02:37:19 development goals, so all a part of climate week. And this should be anybody who was thinking of voting for, I would just say Kamala Harris should rethink it because this is the general thinking of the elites in the Democrat Party. And John Kerry is without a doubt one of the elites. He has married into the Heinz fortune. He's a douchebag. He's an incredible douchebag. He's a patrician. A patrician with a very big watermelon size head.
Starting point is 02:37:57 But listen to what he thinks about the First Amendment and the right to say whatever you want to say. And I will precede this clip by saying the terms misinformation, disinformation, malinformation is all bull crap. There is information. It's just information. Everything, I'm sure that has a technical term in language. When you put something in front of it, what is that called? A prefix. is that called?
Starting point is 02:38:29 A prefix. Is that called a prefix? Yeah. And on top of that, there are no secrets, only information you don't yet have. So it's only information. But this is the kind of thinking that goes on in the upper elitist echelons of the Democrat Party as it is today. The dislike of and anguish over social media is just growing and growing and growing. As part of our problem, particularly in democracies, in terms of building consensus around any issue, it's really hard to govern today. You can't, you know, there's no, the referees we used to have to determine what's a fact and what isn't a fact, they've kind of, you know, been eviscerated to a certain degree. You have to back it up. And when you hear the word referee, replace it in your mind
Starting point is 02:39:21 with gatekeeper. Yeah. And by the way, it's so hard to govern these days. In terms of building consensus around any issue, it's really hard to govern today. The referees we used to have to determine what's a fact and what isn't a fact, they've kind of been eviscerated to a certain degree. And people go and then people self-select
Starting point is 02:39:49 where they go for their news or for their information. And then you just get into a vicious cycle. Yeah, especially podcasts. So it's really, really hard, much harder to build consensus today than at any time in the 45, 50 years I've been involved in this. And there's a lot of discussion now about how you curb those entities
Starting point is 02:40:12 in order to guarantee that you're going to have some accountability on facts, et cetera. But look, if people go to only one source and the source they go to is sick and has an agenda and they're putting out disinformation. Our first amendment stands as a major block to the ability to be able to just hammer it out of existence. So what we need is to win the ground,
Starting point is 02:40:41 win the right to govern by hopefully having, you know, winning enough votes that you're free to be able to, to implement change. Now, obviously there are some people in our country who are prepared to implement change in other ways. Is that unbelievable or what? You know, he, I think he caught himself and he tried to beat around the bush because after he talked about the First Amendment being an impediment. What a nuisance that thing.
Starting point is 02:41:15 It's a nuisance and an impediment. He kind of must have went right through his brain. Oh, you dumb shit head. You said the wrong thing here. Now try to get out of it because he seemed to be fishing after that. Yeah, I saw that. I just found it incredible. Incredible. And that's the thinking. You know, this, wow, this first amendment is annoying and people, we don't have any more referees. We need referees like Brian Williams. Good referees. All right. Have to play this since we do have
Starting point is 02:41:55 an appearance in our end of show mixes. The mayor is back. Yes. Yay. Very excited to have the mayor back on the show. Thank you. Thank you mayor. Sir Michael Anthony Mayor Adams and I have two clips here. The first is a little background. Yeah, sorry. I call him Mark Anthony in the last. No, it's sir Michael Anthony. Have a little update here and on from CBS on the latest with Maya Adams. It's an unfortunate day, and it's a painful day.
Starting point is 02:42:31 New York City Mayor Eric Adams asked New Yorkers to reserve judgment shortly after a federal indictment was unsealed, accusing him of engaging in a long-running conspiracy involving illegal campaign contributions, charges he denies. The five-count indictment includes charges of bribery, wire fraud, and two charges relating to receiving campaign contributions from foreign nationals. If you just sum up. Federal prosecutors say Adams accepted more than $100,000 in luxury travel benefits from Turkish officials in exchange for favors. In one instance they say Adams pressured the New York City Fire Department to let Turkey open a new diplomatic building
Starting point is 02:43:12 here despite safety concerns. The Turkish official got what he wanted and as we explained in the indictment just four days after Adams held up his end of the bargain he went right back to soliciting more travel benefits from the Turkish airline. This is just one of at least four federal investigations into Adams or his inner circle. At least three high-ranking city employees have already resigned in recent weeks. This is unprecedented. CBS News legal contributor Caroline Polisi says prosecutors must think they have a strong
Starting point is 02:43:44 case to indict the sitting mayor of first in city history. You have to believe that prosecutors feel that they can not only convict Mayor Adams out trial, but sustain that conviction as well. Adams has vowed to remain in office while he fights the charges. So the show consensus on this, which you reminded of us on the last episode, is this is entirely because he started complaining about the illegal immigrants, I'm sorry, the newcomers, flooding New York City, and he went against the Biden-Harris administration,
Starting point is 02:44:21 and that this is retaliation. Well, son of a gun, wouldn't you know it? I will say this. I watched about a year ago when he talked about how the illegal migrants are hurting our city and the federal government should pay us and we shouldn't have to take them. And I said, you know what? He'll be indicted. Within a year. And I was exactly right. Because that's what we have. We have people that use the Justice Department and the FBI at levels that
Starting point is 02:44:53 have never been seen before. So I wish him luck. I don't know anything about what he did, but I told a lot of group, a lot of people right over there, that group was saying, you know, sir, you were right about that when right about that. When they mentioned that, I said, they came in and he was pretty strong about it. He said, this is really unfair to make us carry this burden. We shouldn't be doing this.
Starting point is 02:45:15 This is New York City. I mean, your parks are loaded up. I just passed recently Madison Avenue, the Roosevelt Hotel. It's like nobody would recognize it. That's Midtown. But he came out very strongly against it. He was right, by the way, because it's ruining our country. He was honest. And I said, he will be indicted within a year.
Starting point is 02:45:36 And that's what happened. And I noticed the indictment is very old. It goes back a long time. So I wish him well, but I said that he will be indicted because he did that. You take a look, that's what they do. These are dirty players. These are bad people. They cheat and they do anything necessary. These are bad people and we need an honest Justice Department. We need an honest FBI and we need it fast. Boom. Deep dive. I have another, a PBS version of the mayor being indicted.
Starting point is 02:46:10 If you want to play it, it's only 33 seconds. It sums things up a little bit. I think your clips are better, but I want to get this one played anyway. Also today, New York Mayor Eric Adams pleaded not guilty to bribery and other charges in federal court. He's accused of accepting illegal campaign contributions and gifts from Turkish nationals in exchange for using his position to help Turkey's interests. Adams did not speak on his way into the Manhattan courthouse but flashed a thumbs up to the
Starting point is 02:46:39 crowd. His lawyer said he will file a motion next week to request that the charges be dismissed. Adams was released after the hearing. He has said he won't resign and will continue to conduct city business as usual. The Department of Justice, man, they are against the American people. No matter who you are, they are weaponized. It's true. Well, they have an agenda and if you don't follow it, You're screwed.
Starting point is 02:47:03 And part of following it is accepting a bunch of illegal aliens, criminals and who knows who else into the country and liking it. Did you see Massey grilling the Inspector General Horowitz, who is the Inspector General for the FBI? I don't think I did. So Massey, whose wife just passed away, you know, suddenly. And this guy, I think he's, he already was just like, I'm going to say whatever I think he's just flat out everywhere now. Like, no, no, he's going against the Republicans.
Starting point is 02:47:42 I think he believes his wife was murdered. I wouldn't put it past people. He's going against the Republicans. I think he believes his wife was murdered. I wouldn't put it past people. Once he went on Tucker Carlson and said a whole bunch of things, all of a sudden she died suddenly. Horrible. So here he is. This is about January 6th.
Starting point is 02:48:00 He's specifically interested in footage of the pipe bomber who put the pipe bomb down at the DNC, which we've seen this footage. I think it's on YouTube. You've seen it, right? Oh yeah. But no, no, no, no, no, no. We've got a failed FBI's failed investigation of the January 6th pipe bomb. Are you looking into that at all?
Starting point is 02:48:27 We've had discussion, I know congressman about it. And we have followed up and I can speak to you about that. I mean, they keep saying it's ongoing investigation, but they've got no leads, no suspects. They've lost information, they've lost evidence, they can't find evidence. Secret Service deleted all of its text on January 6th. Steve D'Antuano, the guy in charge of Washington D.C. Field Office says that the cell phone data that could have been used to find the bomber was corrupted. And now we just found out, I found out from another Inspector General, and I want to submit this
Starting point is 02:49:01 for the record. — Objection. Yeah. He, I asked him, do you have the footage, the video footage, does the FBI have the video footage of the DNC on January 6th? And he tells me when he asked the FBI for the video footage, they don't even have video footage of the DNC that we know was created on January 6th. It's almost, I mean, so it's almost as if they don't want to know. Can you rule out that there were any confidential human sources involved in
Starting point is 02:49:29 the whole pipe bomb thing on January 6th? I'm not, I'd have to go back, Congressman, and refresh myself on what information we've gathered to date on that. I don't know as I sit here. Okay, that would be a huge revelation. But I'm happy to come- I think we should get that and get it public before the election as I sit here. Okay that would be a huge revelation and I'm happy to come. I think we should get that and get it public before the election. I yield back. They deleted text messages because that's what you do. Yeah. Yeah. If you're Hillary Clinton. It's against the law to do that
Starting point is 02:49:58 but they do it anyway. Yeah. Well I have one last little clip here that might be interesting. This is 13 seconds, not much, but this is just because they keep talking about, no, no, you know, they don't want to ban gas stoves. I don't know where you get that from. This is Newsom. Oh, here we go. Newsom. California's governor, Gavin Newsom, has vetoed a bill that would have required tobacco
Starting point is 02:50:28 style health warnings on gas stoves. It's a setback for climate and public health advocates to encourage the shift to all electric home appliances. We have all electric in Washington state in our area. It sucks. I'm going to my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning. All right everybody, remember we do have John Sipp of the Day coming up. The Mayor returns in our end of show mixes and of course we've got another fantastic show coming up next on the No Agenda stream.
Starting point is 02:51:06 But first we need to thank our producers who came in $50 and above and again thank you to everyone who has a sustaining donation. You can support the show by going to NoAgendaDonations.com. John? Yes. Yes, hello. Adrian Christensen starts us off. He's in Australia. $115.87, which is, could be $200. I'll do a calculation on that money before we're done and move along.
Starting point is 02:51:36 Oh, yes, please do, please do. Laura and Dieter, and Dieter and Laura, Laura and Dieter. Dieter. And they're in London, UK. $111.11. Big fans. Haven't missed this show since Joe Roe. Sir Robertson of Two Sticks in Dos Palos, California. $101.79. His 45th birthday. Same day as former president Jimmy Carter.
Starting point is 02:52:06 He reaches 100 if he's alive. Jay Baker in Norman, Oklahoma, $100. He needs a D-douching. Oh, sorry. Here we go. You've been D-douched. Kevin McLaughlin, 8008. He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs.
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Starting point is 02:53:28 Belgium, Belgium. Brie, it's Brie. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 56. Nicholas Oman in Dilworth, Minnesota. 58, 56. This must be some other donation number that's been jacked up. Eric Otega in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. 5809. Never stop, never stopping. Cynthia Sarvey, I think Sarve in Manchester, New Hampshire, 5568. She's Baroness Salty Ketchup. Oh no, no, it's Baroness Salty Ketchup punched her in the mouth. Oh. And she's now hooked.
Starting point is 02:54:15 Hooked. Hooked. She's hooked. Not by gambling. Mark Hardwick in Aledo, Texas, 5333. Now we go to the 50s already. It's a short list again. Luckily for the Commodores, we're doing okay.
Starting point is 02:54:30 The 30, let's go with Michael Elmore in Gastonia, North Carolina. Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon. John Taylor in Florissant, Colorado. Sir Richard Gardner, I believe, New York City. Charles Tracy, Hick, New York City. Charles Tracy, Hickory, North Carolina. Zev Green, Zev, in Teaneck, New Jersey. Hinaki Esparza, El Oriaga, in Mexico City. David Steele, in Mobile, Alabama, or
Starting point is 02:55:03 Mobile. Edwin Torres in San Antonio, Texas. Leif Thompson in Meridian, Idaho. Justin Kalor in Blifton, Indiana. Robert Drikosen in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. And last on our short list today is Rita Harrington. Good old Rita comes in from Sparks, Nevada and sends us a nice little ITM note. Thank you, Rita. And that's our group. All right. Thank you very much to all of our producers for today's episode. And again,
Starting point is 02:55:40 thank you if you came in under 50. We never read those usually for reasons of anonymity people are doing 49.99 and of course our sustaining donors. Thank you for going to no agenda donations calm and for making the show a possibility Once again, here's the karma for those who requested it needed not karma No agenda donations calm It's your birthday, birthday! Oh, Noah Chatter! Sir R.J. turned 56 on July 12th. Well, that's a belated birthday, but happy birthday to you. Sir Jeremy Chumpati turned 62 today, and Sir Robertson of 2 sticks turns 45 on October
Starting point is 02:56:05 1st. So we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. It's your birthday, yeah! Toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot,
Starting point is 02:56:13 toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, to Two sticks turns 45 on October 1st, so we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Yes, title changes for today. Sir 8-Bit Ben upped his, and he was on, I think, on sustaining donations. He was doing, wasn't he doing the 6502? I think so. So today he becomes Sir 8-Bit Ben, Baron of Southern Indiana, and Sir Mike of Axehead Watch is now Sir Mike of the Fair Tax Liberator of Michigan 10,
Starting point is 02:56:59 Baron of Liechtenstein. And we congratulate both of these men for moving up in the peerage list. Now for our Commodores who received an email from a 26 year retired Navy Mustang, his name is Matt and he says as JCD correctly pointed out Commodore was the old name for the one-star admirals in the Navy. When officials embark a naval vessel they are greeted with honors via the 1MC, which is our announcing system. 1MC! A one-star admiral or rear admiral lower half, holy moly, I thought being a rear admiral was bad but if you're the rear admiral
Starting point is 02:57:39 lower half what does that mean? Would be announced with six bells, three sets of two. It would sound like ding, ding, and they does more dings. Commodore arriving. My suggestion would be to do the bosen pipe followed by the bells to announce the new no agenda Commodores. Alternatively, ruffles and flourishes is also appropriate for more ceremonial occasions. Very respectfully, Matt. So let me see. First, I will get us set up here as we are about to announce all of our Commodores. We have a number of them today. Apologies to everyone whose dog just freaked out because mine certainly did when I did
Starting point is 02:58:30 that. It was insane. Commodore Oil Baron, Commodore Harrison, Commodore Vic-20, Commodore Sir Becoming Heroic of Unsinkable Two, Commodore Swizzle of the Tiki realms Commodore sir RJ of Grand Point Commodore Cory Baker Commodore Stephen crummy Commodore sir Schwartz of Jutland Denmark EON eon I think the Commodores of the no agenda. Your certificate is coming in the mail very soon. Thank you for supporting the best podcast in the universe.
Starting point is 02:59:12 How's that, John? Well, I liked it better than what you've been doing. I mean, I don't think you need to do the bells more than one round of ding ding ding ding ding ding. Oh, I kind of want to be fine right at the beginning. I kind of like all the bells more than one round of ding ding ding ding ding ding. Oh, hmm. I think that would be fine right at the beginning. I kind of like all the bells, the bell bell bells. Well, if you want to keep ringing bells, that's fine. I think the bow since pipe could be a little clearer.
Starting point is 02:59:35 We have to get a better clip of that. I think it will disturb the dogs. Yeah, let's try it again. It's like it again. There's two, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 02:59:50 it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's nighthood since I've never been officially D-douche. Please do me the honor. You've been D-douche. Anonymous Eric and include Oreos and milk at the round table with the biggest swords you've got. Thanks to John and Adam for making the best podcast in the universe. Without it, I'd probably be listening to Ben Shapiro on double speed. But instead my amygdala is as healthy as a horse. No, I actually can't.
Starting point is 03:00:26 May you never find an exit strategy so you have to podcast right into your graves. No jingles. Just Karma. Okay. Anonymous Eric, so here's the Just Karma for you as requested. Please stop. Karma. And we will grab the biggest swords that we have. This is a pretty big one. There you go. Whoa, that's the monster.
Starting point is 03:00:46 Yeah. All right. Sir 8-Bit Ben. No, I mean, sorry, who am I talking about? No, Anonymous Eric, that's who I meant to call him. Dennis Harrison and Stephen Crummy, gentlemen, you are now Knights of the Noagena Roundtable. I am very proud to pronounce the KV as Sir Anonymous Eric, Sir Harrison of the Rednecks,
Starting point is 03:01:07 and Sir Steve, Protector of Orissa. For you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We have Wagyu, Rib Eye Beef Shabu Shabu with Ramen Noodles. Really? Beef enchiladas and rocks margarita, Oreos and milk, warm beer and cold women, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils. Of course there's always some mutton and mead somewhere, so we've got that mutton, eat and mead for you.
Starting point is 03:01:32 Go to noagenderrings.com where you can see the handsome night rings that are there on display for you. They are Cygnet rings, so in your shipment, once you give us your ring size, handy ring sizing guide, ring finger sizing guide on the website as well We will send you some wax to seal your important correspondence and in addition to that a certificate of authenticity Thank you very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe Yeah, you bet it's like a party. All of these meetups are just like parties, even if it's just two nights in a bottle,
Starting point is 03:02:10 which is exactly who showed up for the Edinburgh meetup. Oops. Hi there. This is Sir Scheggemann. This is Sir Kenneth and this is the Leaf. We are two nights in a bottle at the Mooricus in Edinburgh in Leithsberg. It's literally twoights in a Bottle at Monaco's in Edinburgh in Leithsburg. It's literally Two Nights in a Bottle.
Starting point is 03:02:28 Two Nights in a Bottle representing Nogena in the morning. Two Nights in a Bottle works for me. Good work gentlemen. Thank you very much for doing that and for sending in the report. Tri-Cities Washington had their very first meetup and hence their very first meetup report. In the morning everybody, this is Aaron from Tri-City. Just wanted to say that we had a wonderful successful first ever Columbia River Basin meetup here in the Tri-Cities. Hope to see some people coming out next time. Looks like we're gonna do another meetup in November. Thank you for your courage. Steve from Kennewick here. Washington has the most producers per capita than anywhere in the nation. We did the work. This is Trevor checking in
Starting point is 03:03:04 from Moses Lake, just coming out for the first time, having a good old time with some no agenda listeners, producers I mean, looking to have more fun with these guys in the future. Hi, Dame Janice of the bombing range. This is so much fun. In the morning, bye.
Starting point is 03:03:23 In the morning, Adam and John. Sir Yogi, Night of the Carnival Midway is here. Peace out. Fifty more dollars and I'll be Sir Silent Ice Cream. Just got to get around to it. We had a lot of cider. See you later. In the morning! In the morning! I would say a very successful inaugural meetup. These are the things you want to go to to meet your No Agenda Nation boys and girls, friends, children from other lands. You may have nothing in common except
Starting point is 03:03:50 the show and that's why you will love being there. You will connect and that connection always brings protection. Today the Don't Be a Douchebag meetup kicks off at 5 30 at McNeely South in Tulsa, Oklahoma. We have on Monday, oh a rare Monday meetup, the almost October surprise 7 30 at the Acoustic Grill Prince Edward, Ontario, Canada. Next show day Thursday, the North Georgia monthly hurricane meetup, makeup meetup, six o'clock at Legends Distillery in Cumming, North Georgia. And also on Thursday, the yard sign pre-election meetup, 630 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado. Many more meetups to be found at NoAgendaMeetups.com. By the way, I have a note, a production note here that the NoAgendaMeetups.com page is having
Starting point is 03:04:39 some issue. Sir Daniel, who set that up for us, is working on it. Mimi says it will be fixed and she's putting up as much info as needed. She's working very hard on getting making sure everything's up there and accurate and we appreciate that. NoAgendaMeetups.com if you can't find one near you start one yourself it's easy and always a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you want be, triggered or held alame.
Starting point is 03:05:15 You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. Go visit one. You won't be disappointed. I promise you. It is fun fun fun fun fun till your daddy takes the T-bird away. I only have one ISO so let's start with yours. Well, let's start with yours. I will cripple you.
Starting point is 03:05:38 Okay, good. Alright, I got three. I have starting in order of quality. Sexy. That was so, so sexy. Let me do that again. That was so, so sexy. All right.
Starting point is 03:05:55 How about go home? The show is over now. Go home. I like that a lot. I like that a lot. Yeah, you might like this one. Best. Best. Best podcast ever.
Starting point is 03:06:06 We have a winner, ladies and gentlemen. Best podcast ever. And now it's time for the famous moment, John C's tip of the day. Green advice for you and me. Just a tip with JCB. And sometimes Adam. I'm excited. Everybody's excited. We're always all excited to find out about the tip of the
Starting point is 03:06:28 day. Well, this is a food tip. A food tip. Ah, this is the best kind of tip. And I thought I'd bring it up because this is something I do. There's been recently, because the avocados mostly come from California and Mexico. Yeah. But in some parts of the country, in fact, most of the parts, there's a huge boom in Peruvian avocados.
Starting point is 03:06:46 Are they no good? No, they're better than the other ones. Oh. And let me explain. A Peruvian avocado, and they come in, it says, you'll see it on the, they always say where their origin, country of origin is. And if you see a pile of Peruvian avocados, what I have to do, the reason for this tip is how do they ripen? How would you tell?
Starting point is 03:07:09 They're not like a normal Hass avocado. Most people in California and elsewhere, you can tell how ripe and ready an avocado is by the kind of a firmness. You grab it. Yeah. I grab, I squeeze a little and that kind of gives me the idea if it's ripe or not. Or overripe.
Starting point is 03:07:28 Or usually I get three avocados. I get one for that dinner that day and then I'll get one for the next day and one for the next day. So I do take firmness into account. Now with the Peruvian avocado, the firmness is always harder than a normal avocado. And if you feel softness, it's over the hill. So you say to yourself, well then how the hell would I know this is ripe? How would I tell?
Starting point is 03:07:58 I can't tell. Yes, how do I tell, John? The color of the skin of a Peruvian avocado, which is kind of a greenish, like all the red, it looks just like a regular avocado. When it turns solid black and the avocado is still firm, that avocado is ready and it's spectacular. And how do we know it's a Peruvian avocado? It'll say, there's not a store in the world that won't put the country of origin
Starting point is 03:08:25 where it says Mrs. Avocado's 59 cents or whatever. It'll say country of origin, Peru. It'll say there, they, they, they, I think most states require you country of origin. So how about the avocado? I want to be ripe in two days when it's from Peru. It'll be black. And it'll be, it'll be black and really? It'll be black with some green spots left. Oh, so it's a color identifier.
Starting point is 03:08:49 It's total color. It goes from super green to black splotches to pretty almost all black with a little green to all black. And there's about a two or three day window when it's all black and it's still hard, boom. Yeah, we prefer avocado of color here on the show. Excellent tip everybody. Hey guys, show us your tips.
Starting point is 03:09:12 Woo, there we go. Anyway, yes, check out the Peruvian avocados if you ever see them. No, I like it, it's good. It's good. Good word. And that does it for episode 1699. 1700 on Thursday, everybody. 1700.
Starting point is 03:09:34 We'll send out a newsletter to remind you. 1700. Everyone should donate and sing. Congratulations, boys. And we have Canary Cry News talk coming up next on the stream this is Seven seven seven jackpot. Ah, they're into that illegal gambling on the stream these days I had to go figure boys go figure and of show mixes we have sound guy Steve Neil Jones our clip custodian and the mayor
Starting point is 03:10:03 Sir, Michael Anthony, returns to the end of show mixes. We could not be happier. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill country, right here in Fredericksburg. We got a meetup on October 18th. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's cold,
Starting point is 03:10:18 I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday, where people are having meetups, and we'll be celebrating episode 1700. Remember us at NoAgendaDonations.com. Until then, adios, mofos, a hooey, hooey, and such. Concerned about rising temperatures on planet Earth heated up a hearing here in Washington today. This morning, record-breaking heat spreading across more of the U.S.
Starting point is 03:10:45 You should know what happens to your body when it exposes itself to extreme heat. First, your body attempts thermoregulation by moving blood flow outward toward the surface of the skin. The heart rate quickens, blood vessels dilate to release heat, the skin becomes flush, then your body begins to sweat. Let's see how long it takes for me to start sweating, because after all, it's not the heat, it's the humidity. If it's really hot, especially if it's hot and humid, these thermoregulation systems that we've developed won't be enough. The heart will continue to beat fast, putting
Starting point is 03:11:20 strain on cardiovascular systems. The skin will continue to sweat, depleting your body of water and essential electrolytes. Many scientists claim that the temperature of the Earth's atmosphere has been rising over the past 100 years. The truth is the crisis is still getting worse. Excessive sweating will cause an imbalance of fluids and salts in the human system. With rising temperatures,
Starting point is 03:11:42 the threat of infectious diseases will increase. It's warmer than I like. Your body's core temperature rises rapidly. Are you feeling it? Your body reaches the threshold for heat stroke. There is irreversible damage to cells and vital organs, and usually. You might die. I think it's very important for us at every moment in time and certainly this one, to
Starting point is 03:12:08 see the moment. We love our country. We are an optimistic people. We are an optimistic people. I love our country. I know we all do. That's why everybody's here right now. We love our country. Let's come together. Let's come together.
Starting point is 03:12:48 Let's come together. Let's come together. We take pride in the privilege of being American. Let's come together. Let's come together. Let's come together. Let's come together. What's up, New York City? This is your mayor, at least for now.
Starting point is 03:13:11 As y'all already heard, I've been indicted for corruption and bribery. The feds is trying to take down me and my whole chocolate mafia. All because I said, yo Joe, close the border, yo. Otherwise y'all know I woulda got away with it. Anyway, I got one word for all y'all talking about step down. Jumanji, if y'all get rid of me, your introvert mayor finna be public advocate, Jumanji Williams.
Starting point is 03:13:40 Jumanji is straight up socialist. He anti-police, and he wanna be the mayor? So you tell Kathy Hoco, you tell AOC, you tell Jumanji, you stand by Mayor Eric Adams. And if y'all don't got my back, maybe I'll just go MAGA. Hehehehehehe Somebody please love me.

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