No Agenda - 1712 - "Data Plateau"

Starting point is 00:00:25 Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha in the Fima region number six. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm still working on it, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Working on your opening or just working on it? I had a convoluted, I think it was just a bit too long and I just couldn't pull it off. I'm sorry. Hey.

Starting point is 00:00:43 Well, I'll tell you what it is. Oh, okay, Here we go. We get a post opening joke. Yeah. So I've been working on some spice mix. New material. I've been working on a spice mix. This is a commercial product.

Starting point is 00:00:58 A spice mix that brings out the flavors, brings forward the flavors of meat and vegetables and I'm calling it the seasoning of reveal. You can ridicule me all you want but until you can show me where the 15 million Democrat voters went I think we have a season of reveal. That is your season of reveal right there. 15 million people are dead. They disappeared. They just disappeared. Hey, good news!

Starting point is 00:01:27 This is it. Get your Post-It notes ready. Starting December 2nd, we can bid on production equipment, gym, offices, and vehicles from Infowars. Yeah, I heard this. Kind of sad. Yeah, well maybe Elon will just buy it all up and give it back to him. Well, this auction by the way does not include the intellectual property

Starting point is 00:01:58 which has already been purchased. And we have breaking news that just came in four minutes ago from the Associated Press. Remember we told you how Alex Jones's Infowars site was going up for auction yesterday in order to pay the $1.5 billion he owes Sandy Hook families for claiming that shooting was a hoax. I'm leading up to this because we now found out who bought Infowars. It is the satirical news outlet, The Onion. They bought it at a bankruptcy auction. Again, that's according to the relatives of Sandy Hook victims who spoke to the Associated

Starting point is 00:02:30 Press. That's all we know at this point. We don't know how much The Onion bought Infowars for or if there were any other terms or anything else with the deal that we know of. Forgive me, I'm thinking of the word. Any other catasols under that contract. The sale price, again, was not immediately disclosed. But again, the satirical news outlet, The Onion,

Starting point is 00:02:52 has bought Alex Jones Infowars site. Okay, couple things. I would have bought Infowars.com. I didn't know it was available. The Onion, do they even exist anymore? Well, they're trying to exist. They're trying to combat the Babylon B with a little bit of news. Well, I have real news if we're going to do breaking news, and this is something that

Starting point is 00:03:13 we might as well get out of the way. And now, back to real news. Real news! No, this is not real news in that regard. This is the six-week cycle I have at the FBI. This just came out. It's breaking! Breaking this hour. I'm sorry. Breaking this hour!

Starting point is 00:03:29 Breaking this hour, FBI Houston has arrested a man accused of attempting to provide material support for the terror group ISIS. The agency is telling us, and we learned this about five minutes ago, but we are scooping up more information now. The agency is now telling us that the 28-year-old suspect admitted to planning a terrorist attack on US soil. That's all that we know right now. We know that details are coming out. We'll continue to do our due diligence as journalists and ask great questions. I want to share with you now the-

Starting point is 00:04:03 Ask great questions. Did you hear that? Hey, how do you do journalism? We will continue at this hour, breaking this hour to ask great questions. Continue to do our due diligence as journalists and ask great questions. I want to share with you now the FBI statement.

Starting point is 00:04:20 FBI Houston special agent in charge Douglas Williams announces the arrest of 28 year old Anas Saeed. He is accused of attempting to provide material support to ISIS and by his own admission planning a terrorist attack on US soil all from his apartment in far west Houston. The suspect has admitted to researching how to conduct an attack on local military recruiting centers. Oh, Google search! Offering his home a safe sanctuary to ISIS operatives.

Starting point is 00:04:53 Bragging he would commit a 9-11 style attack if he had the resources. A plane! Attempting to produce ISIS propaganda. More as we get it on the story. Be afraid. Be afraid. Everybody be very afraid because they're here. Wow. ISIS.

Starting point is 00:05:15 We will follow them to the gates of hell. ISIS. I feel good. Dynamite. Wow. He researched and he told the FBI, you know, if I can get a plane, a 9-11 style attack, what nonsense is this? They're trying to get some extra bonus money before time runs out. Unbelievable. You know, Trump is doing like a typical business reorg thing with the FBI. He builds a new building and then it's like, okay, here's the new building.

Starting point is 00:05:57 You guys in this old building, you're not going over. It's like that's what you do in a, in a, it's a perfect business turnaround. I never thought about it, uh, in that regard, but it's exactly right. You know, this is a classic business turnaround, a pivot. Yeah. 10, 10 guys you can go over and by the way, we've wired it the way we want it wired now so we can hear everything we need to hear. Here's your new building.

Starting point is 00:06:26 So obvious. This is. These guys are disgusting. Some schmuck. Wait until we see the indictment. We'll get the report. Like, well, you know, we had, we were talking to him for a couple of months, told him to do some Google searches. He said, if only I could get an airplane, a 757, I could probably crash it into a building. Oh God. Let it end. Let it end. I just found it interesting because I didn't do the math on it because it just came out this morning, but I figured six weeks ago there was whatever.

Starting point is 00:06:59 Oh yeah. Yeah. What was the last six week cycle? I probably have it. Hold on a second. Six week cycle. What was the last six weeks like? I probably have it. Hold on a second. Six week cycle. Was that the that was well, yeah. September 30th.

Starting point is 00:07:14 That's six weeks. Holy crap, it's exactly six weeks. It's always exactly six weeks. That's the joke. Six weeks ago. He first caught the attention of the FBI because of jihadist-oriented messages he posted on social media. Same guy. The same guy.

Starting point is 00:07:34 It's unbelievable. We're onto you, FBI. We're onto you. And nobody else cares. You know, I was just, there's a lot of different things to discuss. Of course, the appointments. I think what is most

Starting point is 00:07:46 Interesting is the total Befuddlement and in a way looking at the ratings that is a big story Of course the collapse of the mainstream media At least the cable news let's put it that way and and if I just wrote some stuff down Well, you should write you should tell people you people, I don't think everyone knows this. You should give them some background on the collapse of these shows. Okay. CNN will be axing top stars in layoffs that will see hundreds fired as ratings

Starting point is 00:08:16 continue to tank. Headline. My favorite. CNN host Chris Wallace leaving network after three years to explore possible full-time podcasting career Right get out before you get fired Comcast to put MSNBC and Oprah's oxygen networks up for sale in cable sell-off as they force them to reimagine Reimagine their news operations MSNBC ratings, Morning Joe down 39.6, that's the first

Starting point is 00:08:48 hour, second hour, 36.9%. Andrea Mitchell, the Mitchell report, 39.7% down. Ari Melber, did anyone ever watch him in the first place, down almost 50%. Joy Reid down 54.6%, all in with Chris Hayes down 47. I mean, it's a bloodbath. And with the cord cutting going on, it's just not happening. The carriage fees are going away and these highly paid stars, Anderson Pooper makes 20 million reportedly,

Starting point is 00:09:28 Aaron Burnett makes 20 million reportedly. Uh, uh, Aaron Burnett makes 6 million reportedly. And the Caitlin woman makes $3 million a year. She's new. How did she, how did she get into that gig? She got, I want her agents. That's really good. So I just wrote down a couple of things because why are they befuddled? Why are they befuddled? Well, they're befuddled.

Starting point is 00:09:48 What? How could this happen? Let's just look at a second what the establishment, including the mainstream legacy MSM5M media, we had the lawfare, the SCOTUS insurrection, booking Trump, the huge fines, Department of Justice attacks, the home raid. We had celebrity endorsements everywhere. It's unbelievable, it's unbelievable. I mean Joy Reid still can't believe it. I think it's important to say that you know anyone who has experienced or been in the United States for any period of time and

Starting point is 00:10:25 experienced this country's history and knows it, cannot have believed that it would be easy to elect a woman president, let alone a woman of color. Let's just be clear. Nothing that was true yesterday about how flawlessly this campaign was run is not true now. I mean, this really was an historic, flawlessly run campaign. She had Queen Latifah never endorsed anyone. She had every prominent celebrity voice. She had the Taylor Swifties, the Swifties, the Beehive. You

Starting point is 00:11:00 could not have run a better campaign in that short period of time and I think that's still true. I mean, it's unbelievable. She had the Swifties, she had the Beehive, she had Queen Latifah never endorsed anybody. Okay, so we had the celebrity endorsements. Let's remember the algo and search manipulation, the autocomplete on Google search, all of that was manipulated, multiple assassination attempts.

Starting point is 00:11:26 And then the media came out with, he incited an insurrection, he's racist, he's a rapist, he's mentally ill, he favors only the rich. Misogynist, don't forget that. Misogynist, thank you. He'll take away your rights, he's going to be a dictator, he's going to rip up the constitution. Day one. We'll use the military against the American people, hates gaysays, trans, women and theys. Project 2025, Hitler. We can't believe that the guy won! What is wrong with the American people? Actually, to be honest about it,

Starting point is 00:11:56 with that laundry list, I'm surprised you won myself, let alone swept. It's just unbelievable. It does tell you something. It tells you that the media has lost its mojo. Even if you listen to Charlemagne the God, the voice of black America, Charlemagne the God, who is also just, he's just befuddled by the demographics of it. What do you make of the demographics here? I mean, Trump got one out of every three voters of color.

Starting point is 00:12:30 No. Yes. One out of 30%. What? Really? What? When you say color, you mean like black, brown, everything. Like common people?

Starting point is 00:12:40 Oh, well, I think that people have different issues that they care about. And I think that there's nobody out there that's a single issue voter. I think some people have different issues that they care about and I think that there's nobody out there that's a single issue voter. I think some of this is a backlash to race and gender and identity politics. But man, most people, they just care about keeping food on their table and keeping a roof over their head. And I think sometimes people forget about that.

Starting point is 00:12:58 I think that they forget about the working class. And for whatever reason, Donald Trump speaks to the grievances- For whatever reason. Of the working class in a real way. And I keep telling folks, people will forget what you did. They'll forget what you said, but they'll never forget how you made

Starting point is 00:13:13 them feel. And when you go back to 2020, even though it was a pandemic, and it was COVID- Yeah. People don't care. All they know is they got stimulus checks with his name on it, and that's what they remember.

Starting point is 00:13:24 That did it, okay. And they remember. Oh that did it. So people think about that. When you have conversations with folks, they'd be like, yo, I remember how 2020 felt. And they think that they're going to feel that, you know, in this next term. People were burning the envelopes. You remember that? I don't remember that actually. Oh yeah, when the checks came in with Trump's signature on it.

Starting point is 00:13:44 They didn't burn the checks, mind you. Just the envelope. Essentially, I don't know where you're going with this, but I do have some clips on demographics that I have to... Yeah, sure, sure. The NPR was freaked out about the same exact topic. They're befuddled. And they're befuddled. And they're befuddled.

Starting point is 00:14:05 And so they brought this, they brought, these clips are not, this is, I got five clips, but they're not like, they don't flow from clip to clip. They're each pretty standalone and interesting. The, this is one of the, one of those specials they do on NPR. They do for themselves. In their echo chamber. It's as they do on NPR. They do for themselves in their echo chamber.

Starting point is 00:14:27 It's a special they do for themselves. They brought in three Democrat strategists, including Paul Beglia, who seemed to be the odd man out because he was the old guy. And the other two people were just younger. One was black and one was just some gay guy. And they were pushing their agendas. they couldn't get a gay guy, Rando. Rando gay guy couldn't figure it out. Why other gay guys voted for Trump.

Starting point is 00:14:55 They, they are trying to discuss, uh, how this came about and none of them guys said, and Paul Begley, it kind of loses it at the end, which will be the last clip, but you can hear within the discussion what the problem really is, and the fact that they're going to die on a hill, and it's going to be... You'll hear what it is quickly. This is Demographics Befuddlement, NPR be the first clip. Nat Malkus Let me ask for as long as I've been covering politics 20 years or so, Democrats have preached demographics is destiny, believing that as the country gets less white, it will move

Starting point is 00:15:30 left. This election showed that to be false. So what replaces that as the new paradigm, the vision of where the party goes from here? So Adrienne Paul, what's the new paradigm? Yeah. I mean, I, this idea that demographics is destiny, I think, was never real. I think that the challenge for us right now, I think I agree with Walid about the sort of vacuum that has been left in communities in terms of that vacuum being filled with misinformation, disinformation, outright lies, and propaganda. You know, we think about what is the new paradigm. We have real conversations with people and not just sort of gloss over and have knee-jerk reactions.

Starting point is 00:16:12 I think that we're sort of seeing right now in the postmortem that's happening about, you know, have we gone too far? Did we go too far left? I think the Democrats need to decide what they are fighting for and they need to fight for those things. I want you to jump in Paul. She really didn't say much there. No, her comments the whole time is we have to have a conversation. We have to have a conversation. A meeting. We need a meeting. So she's the meeting conversation.

Starting point is 00:16:40 And then she says this, by the way, that even when I was a Democrat, the idea that demographics is the future because once we get rid of these damn whities, we're going to be taking over the place. It'll be great. And so this guy who's hosting this is quite reasonable, but nobody else is. It's quite funny. So this one is now the, it's got the ad sign instead of a two, but it else is. It's quite funny. So we're going to, this one is now the, it's got the ad sign instead of a two, but it's the wow clip. I think that Democrats need a both and approach around delivering real economic results to

Starting point is 00:17:14 working class Americans and not shying away from real societal changes that are happening around us that we can't just pivot away from. We need to humanize trans Americans, we need to contextualize trans Americans, we need to do the same thing that we did in the struggle for gay rights, which is fight these battles and persuade not just in election season, but in the years before election season. And I think we lost to the oldest playbook in human history, which is divide and conquer. And one place I would push back on Paul is that Democrats also need, we're too conflict averse. We're trying to be everyone, everything to everyone. We need to create villains. Part of the thing is the Democrats have gotten too close to

Starting point is 00:17:54 the boardrooms of Uber and Facebook and Wall Street, some of the grocery companies, and we need to take on those villains. Otherwise, the Republicans will create and manufacture villains every single time. Ugh. So, the corporations that clothe and feed us are villains. Yes. And we have to support the trans. Now, this is interesting to me because...

Starting point is 00:18:17 Gay rights, whatever that is, gay rights. He went from...no, he went from...the way we did gay rights now has to be moved to trans. Trans rights, yes. We have to contextualize them. So the Trans Maoist agenda is, I've determined that's the hill they're going to die on. Wow. They need to contextualize trans is what he said.

Starting point is 00:18:38 Yeah. They're trans. They're going to, the Democrat party is going to die on the trans Maoist hill. And I've heard it and I believe me, I listened to a lot of NPR and PBS, a lesser extent on PBS, but they, they're all in on the, here's what we did wrong. Well, it was this, that and the other. It was a misogyny. There wasn't good communication. There was a bunch of racism that said, and if we just double down on trans, it's absolutely incredible to me. But let's go to the third clip, which is the racism clip. This is the other complaint.

Starting point is 00:19:14 The last time Democrats were in the wilderness for 12 years, Ronald Reagan for eight years, followed by George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton got back into power by saying, it's the economy stupid, we're going to attack to the center. Is the same answer going to work for Democrats four years from now, two years from now? No. No. Yes, and Adrian? No, no, I don't think that we're in a fundamentally different world than we were then. Again,

Starting point is 00:19:43 I would say to the point- Okay, stop, stop the clip. This is that woman again. She says we're in a fundamentally different world than we were then. Again, I would say to, to what needs to point like the. This is that woman again. She says we're in a fundamental, you have to remember her own words. This is another problem that they have. There's a, the fundamentally different world is the trans world, but that, but she's, but she's kind of carries it to, to racism. Now if we're in a fundamentally different world, listen to her final conclusion when she wraps. Okay.

Starting point is 00:20:10 We're in a fundamentally different world than we were then. Again, I would say to Waleed's point, like the country has changed, right? Not just in terms of its complexion. And we have to address the issues that are fundamentally dividing Americans. And that is not just the economy. We can't, as a country, we are incapable, unable, unwilling to address the sort of central issues that have created our inability to get to a more perfect union.

Starting point is 00:20:40 And that is absolutely racism. The Democratic Party absolutely cannot run away from that. And I know that for myself and my community, we've been dealing with this for a very long time. Oh, wait a minute. Is she black? Does she represent her community, the black community? I guess. But did you hear that little phrase at the end what she said? What did she say? Play it again. Play the end here. said? What did she say?

Starting point is 00:21:02 Play it again. Play the end here. The Democratic Party absolutely cannot run away from that. And I know that for myself and my community, we've been dealing with this for a very long time. We've been dealing with this for a very long time. We've been dealing with this for a very long time. Wait a minute.

Starting point is 00:21:17 She just said it's fundamentally changed. Don't bring logic. She prefaced her whole comment with it's fundamentally changed, but then it falls back to we've been dealing with this for a very long time. So she's probably a consultant. Oh, yeah. Well, she... No, they're all consultants.

Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah. So they all come in with their own consulting bent and it's like, I'm black. I'm a consultant for racism for the Democrats. I'm gay. I'm a consultant for trans, which by the way is almost an oxymoron Because though they are not in the same community certainly not gay men and trans This is dumb. These people are stupid Well, let's go to clip for things

Starting point is 00:21:55 I think what I'm frustrated with is there's been all this talk this past week of about about how Democrats need to abandon the woke part of their party and very little talk about abandoning the billionaires who are part of their party who are harming our ability to speak in terms of class warriors and not just cultural warriors. Oh, the Republicans had Elon Musk and they managed to do it. But they are running a campaign based on, again, the oldest playbook, which is Elon Musk is somehow a victim of

Starting point is 00:22:25 American democracy rather than a success story of how the economy and democracy works for people like him. And so I feel so ashamed that the Democrats were unprepared for the onslaught of what was going to be a tax on the lines of migration, the border, transgender Americans, when we knew this was coming years ago. And yet we didn't develop a strategy to explain to the American people what this was designed to do, which was to help elect Republicans and people like Elon Musk and get them more power. Oh my goodness. Now, the interesting new term that was introduced here besides electing Elon Musk for something,

Starting point is 00:23:02 I don't know what he's talking about there. Transgender Americans. Yeah, I heard that too. It's like Mexican Americans or Jewish Americans and transgender Americans is a category. Yeah, it's a new category. These people are going to die on this hill. Well, they're going to die. That's for sure. So, this is the last clip. So So Baglia, who is the old Democrat, used to work for the Clinton administration, he's fed up with listening to this and he goes off on him.

Starting point is 00:23:32 This is the last clip. He goes off on him, but at the same time you can hear him, it's in there, it's subtle, but he pulls back on certain things he knows will alienate this new group. And so he kind of, he couches, he does couching, except for, I accept for, blah, blah, blah. He's a wimp. Now, Paul Begley, who's a guy who's pretty much a clone of Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC, they're very similar personalities and they just go after, they hate Republicans to an extreme. But this situation, this is at the near the end of this, I don't know, half hour of discussion. And he just gets irked and blasts these people. But at the same time, he,

Starting point is 00:24:16 you can hear him not really, you know, completely closing the door on him. I'm smiling because not only do we not explain it, we rub their noses in it if they dare use the wrong word. I'm sorry. There is a woke, sensorious, preachy elitism in our movement. And we got to flush that. You don't go to someone who's busting his ass at seven bucks an hour and tell him he's privileged just because his skin is white.

Starting point is 00:24:46 I'm sorry, you don't do that. Not if you wanna get his vote, okay? And I'm not naive, I understand there's racism and prejudice in this country. I want to build bridges to those folks. I wanna reach out to them. And the easier way to do that is on these economic crises that they're all facing irrespective of race, gender, and religion. Wow. But there's a lot of these consultants are saying this. They're saying, you've got to stop with the woke stuff. It doesn't work.

Starting point is 00:25:18 So he had that right. But then you hear him backing off on it though. Yeah. Oh man. But then he bet you can hear him backing off on it though. Yeah. Oh yeah. Tell me that, please tell me that I can get a longer version of this on NPR Plus, on the Plus bundle. On the bundle. On the bundle.

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Starting point is 00:26:12 that I'm hearing, I think we had a consultant on the last show where she said the same thing, you got to stop calling brown people Latinx, you got to stop with this nonsense because it's condescending. And now you're right. Oh, no now we have transgender Americans another

Starting point is 00:26:28 Category instead of just Americans. Yeah now it's you know American. Yeah, in fact, it's a good point They've added categories Instead of backing off on this Politics, yeah adding They added a new category. 60 Minutes took a little different tact. And we're very serious about what's going on here. With Arizona called last night, Donald Trump swept all seven swing states,

Starting point is 00:26:58 six of them flipped from Joe Biden's column in 2020. So far, the president-elect has won just over 50% of the popular vote, and he made gains in key demographics, including the young, Latinos, and women. Republicans took the Senate and are on track to control the House.

Starting point is 00:27:19 Tuesday, more than 80% of all the nation's counties move toward the right. The shift is decisive and leaves Democrats arguing over how they misread the people. To understand what just happened, we went to Pennsylvania, one of the places that made all the difference. All the different, well, it's very serious, John. This is the difference. Well, it's very serious, John. This is the shift.

Starting point is 00:27:46 Okay, Adam. The shift is apparent and it's always, ultimately, in America. Whether you're black American, brown American, red American, gay American, trans American, it's always about the eggs. For 25 years, Chris Borick has been conducting one of the leading polls of Pennsylvania voters. He's a professor of political science at Muenberg College next to Northampton County. It was an Obama County, then it was a Trump County, then it was a Biden County, and in 2024, it once again is a Trump County.

Starting point is 00:28:22 How did Trump win? It's a great question. You know, first of all, I think he had the wins on his side here from talking to voters. where it once again is a Trump county. How did Trump win? That's a great question. First of all, I think he had the wins on his side here from talking to voters. They're not in a great mood. They're not in a good place. There's lots of good things happening

Starting point is 00:28:35 in Northampton County. The economy's good, but they're feeling things in their lives that really trouble them. Housing prices here, grocery prices. I can't tell you how many times when I've talked to people about elections this year, they referenced eggs and the price of eggs. TooManyEggs.com. I'll have one more.

Starting point is 00:28:54 TooManyEggs.com. Perfect. Yeah. I have one more clip here, but the issue with trans is much less of and the Republican Party played this very well. It's much less about if you know, all right, you know, so you've let some, some person who is licensed by the Association of Pediatrics and you know, who are stand to lose their license if they don't go with the flow of oh, you're depressed, you're a boy, little girl. That's one thing and America's like well, you know, okay But when you put boys into girls sports, that's the line. That's the limit It was it was so stupid and we said so we kept saying this is dumb

Starting point is 00:29:37 Americans will not stand for that. Hey, my girls shouldn't be competing against this dude no matter what you say Yeah, you know this man that we this, this analyze this for a second because you're right, we have been talking about this for, since I think Leah Thomas or before, and it's like, it's such an obvious thing and we had, there's the pictures that I think a number of years ago, there were these pictures of big black dude, the guy's a monster running track and field all muscled up big guy running track and field with women and the NCAA saying well you know he identifies as a girl so he should be a girl and and then and then I think the worst part was the hordes of mostly

Starting point is 00:30:20 Democrats defending the practice and then then one other thing which is just abhorrent is the tranny story hour. Come on, come on. You know, it was dumb. This is just too stupid. But anyway, according to CBS, it's about the eggs. TooManyEggs.com. Egg prices doubled and featured on the menu of discontent. At the Nazareth Diner near Bethlehem, no one sees a sunny side to inflation, high interest

Starting point is 00:30:52 rates and housing prices. The average tab here in 2020 was $24. Now it's $38. And that's the election in an eggshell. The prices have gone up, obviously, because of the food cost. And for a family of like four people, five people, I have them come in and say, Oh my God, I spent $100 with the tip for breakfast. That's crazy. Which it is.

Starting point is 00:31:20 Yeah, 730 we opened, 730 to 10. Roz Workheiser was a waitress 25 years ago. Now she runs the place. My mother used to always say, you gotta vote Democrat, you know, they're for the poor people. You grew up in a democratic household? Yes. But you just voted for Donald Trump? Yes.

Starting point is 00:31:38 Inflation is down by more than half. Interest rates are falling, mortgage rates are falling, wages are falling wages are going up are you not feeling that i don't feel it no i don't feel it i don't feel it at all everybody i talked to it then nobody's wages went up but we had four years of this i mean four years gas was super high yes it just went down now but what the past four three and a half years it was up. So their analysis is it's the price of eggs. And yeah, that is very important. And Trump spoke to that constantly, specifically. It's like, oh, come on. There was, there's one other issue at play. And I'm in a way a little, a little disappointed, but you know, my good friends in tech groups, they're just like, ah, the lips are losing their mind, they're melting down.

Starting point is 00:32:32 Who is this? Friends of mine, like guys who should know better. And I call them out on it and they still do it. Sure. It's funny. And one of the things is, I can't believe they spent them to give Oprah a million dollars. Four million dollars for private jets. When you're running the greatest show on earth, which the presidential election is, that's what you do. Please don't go look at what Trump spent. It was half the amount of money.

Starting point is 00:33:05 But you know, that's what Oprah put together. We saw the show. She put out a studio, studio audience. I don't even think, was it in her own town? I don't even think it was in her own town. I had no idea where it was. I know that Cameron in like travel. You build a set, $100,000 to call her daddy.

Starting point is 00:33:19 No, it was $500. Whatever. By the way. But you know, it's like, what's the point? You know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like daddy. No, it was 500. Whatever. By the way. But you know, it's like what, that's what you do in a presidential campaign. Who cares? But this is a big problem. Here's a, this is a- Well, I just to defend the people that are on

Starting point is 00:33:39 the other side of this argument. Nobody, you're right. And I think it's absolutely, especially you have a billion dollars to spend, but think especially you have a billion dollars to spend, but how do you have a billion dollars to spend and then go over budget by 20 million? I mean, that's what was shocking. That's pretty interesting. Tina told me that Trump offered to pay that. Did I see that somewhere? Yeah, that keeps going around. I haven't heard it. I mean, I've heard about him supposedly. I still think it's tongue-in-cheek. Yeah well

Starting point is 00:34:07 do you think? Anyway so the Cuomo kid had this Democrat bundler on so she's someone who collects a lot of money and does stuff. Yes this woman yeah this by the way before you play that this woman is the Asian woman, right? Yes, yes. Yes, she... The China doll. She's a China doll. She looks porcelain. Yeah, she's got one of those looks.

Starting point is 00:34:31 But she had... I'm dubious about this, about why would you come on and complain like this? It's News Nation. What do you expect? What am I thinking? Never mind. Just ignore what I said. And although Oprah says she wasn't paid a cent by Harris,

Starting point is 00:34:50 the campaign did pay her company a million dollars to produce Oprah's star-studded town hall. Well, isn't that paying? And the Harris team reportedly spent six figures to build that set I told you about on that Call Her Daddy podcast. Wow. our no agenda money? We want a new set. I think Colm was thinking that himself. Hey, I could have built a set for half a mil. I told you about on that call her daddy podcast. That call her daddy podcast. That's a little bit of envy in

Starting point is 00:35:23 your voice Chris. You know which I got her hundreds of thousands of views, but I mean, I don't know that it was cost effective. And then you got Eminem, then you got Beyonce. So let's talk to somebody who lives. What about Eminem and Beyonce? There's a, whoa, they paid Beyonce a million dollars. There's no evidence of that. There, and the FEC filings,

Starting point is 00:35:43 there's a bunch of evidence of it. A million dollars for Beyoncé? No, they don't have the exact numbers for they have bundles of money that went to different talent agencies. So you can't tell who got what. Okay. All right. All right.

Starting point is 00:35:57 But it's a lot. How come no one wanted an endorsement from the pod father in the podcast election? What is wrong with you people? Hey, I'm always bringing this topic up. You don't have to do it. You can stop. Okay. Got Eminem, then you got Beyonce.

Starting point is 00:36:13 So let's talk to somebody who lived it, okay? And is speaking out now with her own concerns. Lindy Lee, joining us now. Lindy, thank you very much for taking the opportunity. What do you think of these allegations of what Oprah, I mean, either they paid the production company or they didn't. I've never heard of people getting paid for endorsements.

Starting point is 00:36:31 Paying to perform, maybe, maybe, but usually they give it. But do you believe it? It's not a matter of believing, it's literally in the report. And she can deny it however much she wants to, but it says Harper Productions on the FEC report. I really don't know how you get around that. It's her company. She can deny it however much she wants to, but it says Harper Productions on the FEC report. I really don't know how you get around that.

Starting point is 00:36:47 It's her company. And she may not have gotten paid personally as a person, but it paid her company. So I think this is a matter of semantics. It's she got paid. And it's just, if my donors had known beforehand that the money would be dispersed this way, I do not think they would have given.

Starting point is 00:37:04 You know, it's a sacred trust. These people, a lot of my donors have worked hard all their lives and again these are everyday Americans around the country. I didn't just deal with big donors. I also fundraised on grassroots donors who gave $25 as I mentioned. I did something called Geeks and Nerds for Harris. People are giving like $10 to $15. These are people, you know. You know, hold on a second. She did that geeks and nerds with Wonder Woman. I wonder how much money she got paid.

Starting point is 00:37:32 That one. I didn't hear what you said. Oh, she said I did something called geeks and nerds for Harris. And that was the Wonder Woman. Geeks and nerds. That was the Wonder Woman hosted webinar, the Zoom call. Right. And so did she do that for free?

Starting point is 00:37:49 That's a good question. Probably not. I gave $25 as I mentioned. I did something called Geeks and Nerds for Harris. People are giving like $10 to $15. These are people, you know, some people are living paycheck to paycheck. So it's a sacred trust for them to give money to a campaign. It is our utmost responsibility to use that money in a responsible manner and to not treat

Starting point is 00:38:15 it as OPM, which is other people's money. If we can't handle campaign money the right way, how can taxpayers, how can Americans possibly trust us that we would handle taxpayer money the right way? Oh, right, oh, well, gee. Now, let's go back to your point that you get a pot full of money, you spend it the way you think is wisely spent, even though you had to buy endorsements,

Starting point is 00:38:40 which is kind of low. Pathetic. When you could probably get them for free if you tried hard enough you you know get better people Yeah, you know spring spring scene is going what? people got paid Sure, he is I'm going to Canada so

Starting point is 00:38:57 this is something about there's something about her whining about this which is If I give 25 bucks to the Harris campaign and she gives that 25 bucks to Beyonce or she gives that 25 bucks to Oglivie to do an ad. Yeah. Yeah. What's the difference? What's the difference? I mean, Beyonce, if somebody thinks Beyonce's going on and on about something is going to be more valuable than the advertisement. Yes.

Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah. So I just wonder, this woman is just, it seems like a counter agent or she's like a... Yeah. I mean, first of all, she just doesn't look trustworthy, period. Second, she's on Cuomo's show. So okay. But your point is exactly right. It's like that's how the thing is, they all believe still, still for some reason, even though it didn't work with Hillary

Starting point is 00:39:56 Clinton, that celebrities matter. Newsflash at this hour breaking, celebrities don't matter in people's lives they haven't mattered for quite a long time I think the MTV Music Awards were on did we miss that I mean this is this is the level of you know we we not caring nobody nobody cares anymore it's just it's it's not that important the The whole industry, the gossip industries is not, maybe TMZ is probably doing okay. Oh, that's a good, ah, you just made an excellent point. Look at the magazines. Whatever happened to the gossip industry that used to be so important, we used to have had a

Starting point is 00:40:35 hopper, we used to have the archer army, army archer, whatever his name was, and all these different people that would do gossip, gossip, gossip. And all that's left now is page six on the New York Times and I'm or the New York Post. And I'll tell you the truth. When I go, I look at page six every once in a while, which is the gossip of the country and I don't recognize any names on there. It's just like, it's an embarrassment. I think I'm embarrassed.

Starting point is 00:40:59 Maybe I'm not. No, the gossip and look at the magazines at checkout. They're very thin and it's always someone with cancer. It is. It's always, oh, he's got cancer. No, it's not funny, but that is pretty much the industry. It's not funny, but it's like, that's true. But the gossip industry sold out to entertainment by just hyping people up for movie ticket

Starting point is 00:41:20 sales. Oh, they're in a fight. Oh, they're doing, it like when when that movie came out and it was what's her name? She's married to Ryan Gosling. And she had a movie come out recently. And she was like, Oh, this is a great girls night out movie. And Gosling is like, and by the way, it's a pretty good movie. Movies this. And And it's really about, it's about abuse and rape. It's, it's, it's, it's, Oh, that sounds terrific.

Starting point is 00:41:50 Yeah. And so then the gossip industry is like, oh, well, you know, there's a spat going on between them. And the whole thing was so obviously set up just to, just to, you know, generate ticket sales, generate ticket sales. The other thing the gossip industry sold out to is the fashion industry. What are you wearing? Who are you wearing? Oh, this is beautiful. Oh, go to our 360 cam.

Starting point is 00:42:14 They sold out. They sold themselves out like whores. Anyway, it's not... I don't know if it was any different before. Oh, no. It was always to move ticket sales. No, but it moved to the fashion industry. Well, the fashion thing does seem new. Yes.

Starting point is 00:42:32 Well, five, six years old. I mean, they've always thought, oh, I'm wearing a Dior. You know, they're wearing a Valentino. I'm wearing Tom Ford. Who are you wearing? Who are you wearing? Well, can't you see Tom Ford? I'm back here.

Starting point is 00:42:42 Hey, Tom Ford is hanging on to me. So there's all kinds of shifts going on and people are rage quitting Twitter. Hi everyone. I have loved connecting with all of you on Twitter and then on X for all of these years, but it's time for me to leave the platform. I once believed that it was a place for- In case you didn't know, this is Don Lemon. For honest debate and discussion.

Starting point is 00:43:05 I saw this. But he's leaving the platform to do what? I'm going to tell you. And by the way, somebody pointed out- I'm going to tell you. His last tweet, he tweets three more times after this. Transparency and free speech. But I now feel it does not serve that purpose.

Starting point is 00:43:20 In addition, starting this Friday, November 15th, Exis is implementing new terms of service. Which among other things, states that, quote, all disputes be brought exclusively in the US District Court for the Northern District of Texas, or state courts located in Tarrant County, Texas. What's so new about this? Quote, the full terms of service can be found on my written statement or on the ex website

Starting point is 00:43:49 Now as the washington post recently reported on ex's decision to change the terms This quote ensures that such lawsuits will be heard in courthouses That are a hub for conservatives which experts say could make it easier for ex to shield itself from litigation And punish critics I think that speaks for itself. You can find me on YouTube at The Don Lemon Show, or on TikTok and Facebook at Don Lemon, and on Instagram at Blue Sky at Don Lemon Official. I hope you will join me there.

Starting point is 00:44:17 So this is the big shift. Everybody's moving to Blue Sky. Some ex-users jumping ship to a new platform called blue sky You might have heard of it in the past week or so the open source social media platform says They've seen an influx of over 1 million users in the past week bringing their total to 15 million users So still low but a good start many of those fleeing are fleeing X after the election They're unhappy that owner Elon Musk used that platform to support President-elect Trump.

Starting point is 00:44:48 Now, Blue Sky was originally created by former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey in 2019. It's been around for a while, but it was recently open to everyone. So it had to be invite only for many years. Now it's open to everyone. The decentralized platform lets you post text, photos, and more. You can also better customize what you see, and it's easy to take your data and move to another platform later. My initial thought on this is that, yes, people are going to it.

Starting point is 00:45:15 Is it as big as something like threads or Facebook or Instagram or Twitter? No, but it's growing and there's a lot of sort of momentum behind it, and it looks just like Twitter I was gonna say as someone who's kind of tiptoeing with it and trying to figure out if I want to make this switch I think one of the things that people are concerned about on X is all the bots and like if you say anything you're like Inundated yeah comments and stuff like that and so my question is does that exist on blue sky as well? So there's a lot of controls to help you see exactly what you wanna see and to cut out some of that stuff. Okay, got it.

Starting point is 00:45:48 So they just have a lot of controls and they have these algorithm lists. You can like, you know, I'm still checking it out, but it seems like you can tweak it a lot more. All right, so I gotta say a couple things. Well, where did you get that commercial? That's KTLA5 in Los Angeles. Let me just say something about Blue Sky. I knew about Blue Sky before it was

Starting point is 00:46:07 launched. One of our producers worked on it. It was the secret Jack Dorsey project. I met one of our producers in South Carolina, meet up and he told me all about it. And yeah, it is open source. You can set up your own server. It's not like doing a mastodon. But I got an invite very early on. I don't know if you've ever been on Blue Sky? Nah. No. It is Tranny Central. Oh really? Oh, from day one.

Starting point is 00:46:34 Oh, well that's interesting because of Dorsey's kind of his background. He didn't have much to do with it at that point, but it was all just all these woke people and just, you know, trans rights flags everywhere. And I was like, okay, interesting. Yeah. So, and, but this is not a bad development. I feel that's perfect. You know, go where you want to go and be with the people you want to be with.

Starting point is 00:47:04 What you will find over there, as far as I know, maybe that's changed, but there's no algorithmic presentation of content. So it does not have... It's doomed then. Yes. This is the same thing with... It's doomed. It's the same thing with Nostr. Nostr, great idea, although not technically, I'm just going to say I don't think it's all that great because you have an identity that is cryptographically provable and no one can steal

Starting point is 00:47:34 your identity. Okay, of the 40,000 people that are on there, it's not that great. They keep saying, oh, Nostra is fantastic because it's censorship resistant. Yeah, no one wants to be on there because again, there's no algorithm. And if there's no algorithm, there's no excitement. You don't get juiced up about stuff. That is the secret to these addictive, and I say that in air quotes, addictive social media networks. You have to have the algorithm, otherwise people will get bored of it.

Starting point is 00:48:11 And even on those short little, YouTube has a series of these clips now that they do. It's called, I don't even know what it's called. Oh, you mean like TikTok like clips, shorts. Yeah. They're called shorts. And you get on one of the threads and they're all very similar. And like there'll be like different kinds of.

Starting point is 00:48:31 Most of them are TikTok videos just put on YouTube. It's true. Most of them are TikTok videos they stole. But this is good. I see this as good. So people are now getting sick of it. We already saw that people are leaving subscriptions on YouTube and they're doing other things. They're going to find other things to do in their life.

Starting point is 00:48:54 As the cable news outlets diminish severely and they move to, I guess, only pure opinion, there's just no money going gonna be left for news, it won't be that interesting to keep these stuff like X, I think it's kept alive by news clips. You'll still get a joy read that is funny, but that's gonna get old too. At a certain point, how much more laughing can you do about the libs melting down?

Starting point is 00:49:24 It's like, ugh, people will get bored. Or laughing can you do about the libs melting down? People will get bored. So it's just, it's... Not the way we do it. No. No. And that's mainly because we don't have video. That's the best part.

Starting point is 00:49:36 You know, ironically, you might be right. Back to the topic, I can bring up the Ask Adam. Oh, hold on a second. Ask Adam. Answer the question, go! Now the thing about Ask Adam is this is a cheap trick to get into some more analysis. Okay. Because it's pretty off the wall.

Starting point is 00:50:04 The one, of course, you play is Ask Adam Q and then I'll ask you the question. Okay, here we go. When Vice President Kamala Harris was campaigning for the presidency, she landed on a signature line. She landed on a signature line. Okay, okay. What was it? Well, there's a couple.

Starting point is 00:50:22 Do you? Did you just fall out of a coconut tree? But it's probably, we're not going back. We're moving forward. Wow. This is funny. Cause I, when I, when I heard this, I might, what came to my mind was joy. Well that's not a signature line. That's, that's, that's just a word. Well we're both wrong. Or unburdened by what has been? We're both wrong.

Starting point is 00:50:48 And you're wrong. Still continue to be wrong. I'm just wrong. Now you want to play answer plus plus. Okay. When Vice President Kamala Harris was campaigning for the presidency, she landed on a signature line this summer at the Democratic National Convention. It was everywhere in the pumpup video set to Beyoncé,

Starting point is 00:51:05 And when we fight, we win! Oh, really? ...rastered across posters in the audience and in speech. When we fight, we win! After speech. Because as we've always known in Texas, cuando luchamos, ganamos. When we fight, we win. After speech. And as the next president of the United States always says, when we fight, we win.

Starting point is 00:51:32 In this election, the Democrats' fight was pretty good. They successfully ditched their unpopular presumptive nominee. They raised a billion dollars with record-breaking speed. They reached tens of millions of people with their massive door knocking and phone banking operations. But the win, of course, never came. And since then, we've seen another law of politics take shape. When you don't win, you fight amongst yourselves. The finger pointing began the morning after the election. Democratic representative Richie

Starting point is 00:52:03 Torres from New York said that quote, Donald Trump has no greater friends than the far left. Look, if the goal is to win elections on Twitter, then you should embrace movements like defund the police. But if the goal is to win elections in the real world, where it matters, then you have to appeal to working class people of color who historically have been the base of the Democratic Party. That's him on MSNBC.

Starting point is 00:52:33 Well, this is very interesting since we both were wrong about what the signature line was, and it goes to show that the Democrat Party is divorced from understanding popular culture. Because if I ask my 28-year-old old and I said, what do you think? She'll say coconut tree. She might say, we're not going back. She might even say freedom, but I don't freedom. I do not think that in popular culture, anyone would say when we fight, we win. Sorry.

Starting point is 00:53:05 Seagile. Seagile. Seagile. Yeah, I was kind of surprised. I agree with all that. And the irony, of course, to what you just said, which is that they don't understand popular culture, is they're the ones wrapped up in Hollywood. But then again, Hollywood doesn't seem to understand

Starting point is 00:53:20 popular culture either, with the results, the box office results they get with some of their good ideas. So something's a risk. So here's part two of this kind of a cheat that I did. Meanwhile, former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, who was instrumental in convincing President Biden to step aside, suggested in a New York Times interview that he should have thrown the nomination open earlier.

Starting point is 00:53:45 Had the president gotten out sooner, there may have been other candidates in the race. Kamala, I think, still would have won. But she may have been stronger, having taken her case to the public sooner. Pramila Jayapal, the Washington congresswoman who leads the Progressive Caucus, says Democrats didn't do enough to distinguish themselves from Trump. We don't offer a different option. He is a billionaire, yes, but we also surrounded ourselves with billionaires and we allowed corporate interests to dictate policy.

Starting point is 00:54:15 She's speaking there to NPR member stationed KUOW in Seattle. We have to stand up for who we are and I'm not sure we totally know as a party who we are. Consider this after a resounding defeat. The Democratic Party has to figure out where it goes next and the struggle over its future is already underway. Oh, well, that is interesting. I have a follow-up clip to that specifically about Pelosi because she has also lost her

Starting point is 00:54:46 standing and when I say lost your standing, I mean the ladies from The View don't even like you. About Nancy Pelosi. Oh child. Oh child, oh child, oh child. She must have been absent the day in kindergarten where they did the lesson, if you've got nothing good to say, don't say anything at all. I mean, why Nancy?

Starting point is 00:55:05 Why? I find this so unproductive, so nasty, so unnecessary. It's like, she wants to make sure that people know it wasn't her. She has no blame in this. I said Biden should have gotten out earlier. I said there shouldn't have been a primary. Don't blame me. I think it's really unseemly.

Starting point is 00:55:23 And, you know, frankly, it's done with, right? These criticisms against Biden, look, we're not, we will never know if the result would have been different had Biden stepped off earlier. What we do know is that Biden is in there for the next two and a half months. And this is what I'm going to tell Joe. Joe, since they're talking smack about you anyways, you know what? Maybe pardon Hunter. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:55:47 Pardon Hunter because we basically, America just pardoned a criminal who was convicted of felonies. Yes. America just elected a man who pardoned Jared Kushner's father. He's probably going to pardon some of the folks from January 6th, those insurrections. So you know what? It's your son. He probably wouldn't have been prosecuted if his last name wasn't Biden. Baby, you got two and a half months.

Starting point is 00:56:15 I'm good with you pardoning Hunter. Which brings us to much needed analysis of the Trump-Biden meeting. This is where you say, I have the clip! And in fact, I have a clip or two. President Biden met at the White House today with President-elect Donald Trump. As NPR's Tamara Keith reports, they both emphasized a desire to have a smooth transition.

Starting point is 00:56:37 With cameras on them, the two presidents shook hands. Biden said his administration would do everything it could to make sure Trump had what it needed for a smooth transition. Welcome. Thank you very much. And politics is tough. And it's, in many cases, not a very nice world, but it is a nice world today. And I appreciate it very much. A transition that's so smooth, it'll be as smooth as it can get. Melania Trump didn't come to Washington for the visit, but first lady Jill Biden gave the former president a handwritten letter to deliver to his wife.

Starting point is 00:57:13 So, first things first, when we see the picture of Trump and Biden walking down the little corridor there to the Oval Office. Trump being six feet three, Biden being six feet zero. Biden is taller than Trump by at least an inch, if not an inch and a half. Now the answer is, well, he's wearing orthopedic shoes. Okay, so there's four inches. No, Trump did not meet with the real Joe Biden, in my opinion. That was Daddy Long Legs, the guy who was all jacked and can run and was speaking in the Rose Garden, all excited, all jacked up. And I don't, what I would have hoped is that he got to speak with the actual

Starting point is 00:58:08 Joe Biden, who then would say, Hey, here's the skeletons. Here's who's out to get you. Here's what you need to look out for. Pardon Hunter. That would have been fine, but they, they PsyOps this, that was not Joe Biden. I'm going to stick to this. Yeah, but we don't know who he met with for the two hours that were closed. No, we don't. We don't. But I mean, he, he was with that guy.

Starting point is 00:58:31 I mean, they must've done like a switcheroo in one door out the other door. Oh, Hey, Hey, here I am. I'm Joe. It was, it was so odd. You cannot. You don't think that's possible? Yeah. But I mean, these, these, I cannot stand the Oyayas orthopedic shoes. It's not four and a half inches. Orthopedic shoes. Four and a half inches of orthopedic shoes.

Starting point is 00:58:52 Yeah, he's also got longer legs. That's the problem. Yes. Yes. And his gait is different. So I'm hoping that- I mean, the Biden that they saw, they didn't show enough of this, by the way. I find that to be peculiar.

Starting point is 00:59:04 Well, of course not. We can't have that. Biden have that. No, I'm talking about Biden at the beach. Oh The recent shots where he almost fell in his ass a couple of times trying to walk in sand. Just trying to walk. Yeah No, mm-hmm. They really minimized that I'm surprised and I'm sure the election is over So why would you care now? Anyway, two hours, I mean, two hours. CBC had a report that played this. It'll lead us into something else, I think.

Starting point is 00:59:31 For Mr. President-elect and former President, Donald, congratulations. With broad smiles and a handshake, U.S. President Joe Biden and President-elect Donald Trump sat side by side in the Oval Office and put on a rare display of civility. In their face-to-face, Trump barely acknowledged the bitterness of their past. is tough and it's in many cases not a very nice world but it is a nice world today. That's especially true for those in Trump's immediate orbit, like the Republicans in Congress, who greeted him with a hero's welcome. Isn't it nice to win? It's nice to win.

Starting point is 01:00:18 Other wins for the Republicans, the House of Representatives, and a new Senate Majority Leader, John Toon of South Dakota. Also included in a stream of new appointments today, Florida Senator Marco Rubio as Secretary of State and Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz, who was the subject of a U.S. Justice Department investigation as Attorney General. But to what extent Trump's bold new agenda was discussed, White House press secretary Corinne Jean-Pierre gave few details. Look, they met for more than two hours. The length of the meeting tells you that they had an in-depth conversation on an array of

Starting point is 01:00:55 issues. With that much anticipated meeting wrapping without a hitch, Trump is now one step closer into his steady march back to the White House. I love the little subtle Nazi smear. He's one step closer to his march into the White House. He's goose stepping his way in. By the way, I want to congratulate everybody on Mastodon. Thank you.

Starting point is 01:01:19 Thanks to you and your memes, America was saved. I am so appreciative of that. What would we have done without your frog memes? We would not have won. We would not have won. Donald Trump is forever grateful. So I think we should discuss some of these appointments. You did a pretty good rundown on the newsletter, which ended in typical Dvorak trolling fashion by saying, eh, nothing's going to change. That's true. It's like, and Macs suck.

Starting point is 01:01:50 That was after talking about Vivek and Elon. And Macs suck. And which one? Macintosh computers suck. It was reminiscent of an old school column. Yeah, it was good. Well, with the government officials doge doge, with the Department of Government-Efficient... This is bull crap.

Starting point is 01:02:10 I need to say something. First of all, I'm sick of doge. I'm sick of it. I think it's borderline illegal. If he holds any dogecoin, I think there's issues because he's pumping an asset by doing this and everybody knows it. Also... I disagree. I don't think everybody knows it. Enough people know it.

Starting point is 01:02:34 I mean, he did this on Saturday Night Live. He's always pumping Doge and that... He should put that dog on his sweater or something. The stupid dog. The dog. Yeah, okay, doge. All right, ha ha ha ha ha. We get the joke.

Starting point is 01:02:48 And now he's posting AI memes, computer-generated pictures of him, and he looks all badass. Pride comes before a great fall. Elon, be very careful with what you're doing. Now, you're going to have to make up your mind if his pride comes before a fall or if he's an intelligence asset and a Psyop, a walking Psyop, it's gotta be one or the other, it can't be both.

Starting point is 01:03:12 When did I say he was a walking Psyop? Oh I thought you were in the camp of him being a Psyop. No, I said he's no good. I never said. Okay, well that's different. I never said he was a walking Psyop, I said he's no good. But what I think he wants is he wants X to be the everything app, all payments run through

Starting point is 01:03:29 X. It's going to turn into a news app. You can already see it. It will be where every... And it's already... He categorizes it as a news app. It'll be for your news. Social media is over.

Starting point is 01:03:43 People are not interested anymore. Maybe in four years something will spark up again. But they really, people just want to, what's going on? And they won't even care if it's real or not. Oh, that's funny. That's great. You know, what's happened? I'll just check in on X. Actually, that's, I think you made a point there again, which is shocking. Oh, thanks. Is that people don't care if the information is accurate or not. No, they don't care. If you know all these little details about everything like in the bus, let's go back to the Bay of Pigs, the Castro situation, you can just alter all the details and you know one side,

Starting point is 01:04:21 say you know half the details are completely wrong and half of them are right, or just how you flip it, it doesn't make any difference. It's like the Gulf of Tompkin. It was like, okay, we found out it was a bunch of bull crap, but what difference does it make? So, and I'll reiterate my stance on Elon, he's a phony. He is a front man for all these organizations. He's they've got real, real Space Force people running SpaceX, there's real car people running Tesla, you know, all of these other little things that fall apart no one ever talks about, you know, boring company and the flamethrower and all this stuff. I have to mention something. I don't know if you caught this, but Trump, and I think he, you know, he's, he did it as though he was joking, but I'm not convinced of it. He made the comment, cause Elon is hanging out in Mar-a-Lago.

Starting point is 01:05:13 Oh yeah, he's Uncle Elon. Oh, he's uncle now to the kids. Oh, I'm Uncle Elon. He says he can't get rid of him. Yes. Now there you go. And, you know, I follow the, his, his jet, you know, there's a guy you got kicked off of X Of course, but he still has a mastodon account and Elon's always on the plane and he's always on X

Starting point is 01:05:36 So and then he's at Mar-a-Lago. He's not running anything. So in that regard, he's just a phony He didn't invent Tesla, didn't invent SpaceX. And oh boy, the rocket came back. Go to Mars, go to the moon, impressed me. And then with this Department of Governmental Efficiency, it's going to be Vivek. Yes, that's my claim. I made that claim. I have a clip.

Starting point is 01:06:01 The two trillion, I stand corrected. No, no, I want to be very clear about the scale. I want to be very clear about the scale that we're thinking here. We're not thinking small. We're playing big here because we have a once in a generation mandate right now. The American people have voted for drastic reform of the government and our federal government is broken. Not really. It's no secret that it is a fourth branch of government, the administrative state that makes most of the rules, that creates a federal bureaucracy that's hampering our economy.

Starting point is 01:06:11 So what do we want to do? We want to go in and slash and burn that bureaucracy. We want to go in and slash and burn that government. We want to go in and slash and burn that government. We want to go in and slash and burn that government. We want to go in and slash and burn that government. We want to go in and slash and burn that government. We want to go in and slash and burn that government.

Starting point is 01:06:19 We want to go in and slash and burn that government. We want to go in and slash and burn that government. We want to go in and slash and burn that government. We want to go in and slash and burn that government. We want to go in and slash and burn that government. We want to go in and slash and burn that government. We want to go in and slash and burn that government. We want to go in and slash and burn that government. We want to go in and slash and burn that government. of the rules, that creates a federal bureaucracy that's hampering our economy. So what do we want to do? We want to go in and slash and burn that bureaucracy to help Americans stimulate the economy and

Starting point is 01:06:33 to restore self-governance against Sean. The people we elect to run the government, they're not even the ones who run the government anymore. It's these unelected bureaucrats. Republican politicians have talked about fixing this for a long time, not with a lot of progress. So I do think it's going to take a couple of outsiders. Elon and I have built a great friendship over the last year. We're working together intensely and we're not going to stop till we get the job done.

Starting point is 01:06:55 So yeah, I'm sure they can trim $2 trillion. The first time I heard about the Republicans in particular, and I wasn't around, but the first time I heard about this was that Herbert Hoover, when he became president before the economic collapse of the 30s, yeah, I think it was called the Hoover Commission, I could be wrong about that, but he set up shop to do the exact same thing because back then in the late 20s, the government was too big and needed to be trimmed. And then Bill Clinton came along, and there's a speech that's going around from 1996

Starting point is 01:07:31 where he comes out and he says, we've got it, the government's too damn big, we gotta start trimming it down. And it went from, I think the figure was at the time, the budget was just around a trillion out seven. This has been going on forever. It never does anything except it's just bull crap. This was indeed the Hoover Commission, which was the commission on organization of the

Starting point is 01:07:58 executive branch of the government, also known as COEBbig. I think Doge is much better than Coebig. And Truman actually used the Reorganization Act of 1949 to implement the recommendations. So they could only make recommendations of the Hoover Commission. I'm reading from Wikipedia in case you wondered. Reorganization plans issued under the act could be nullified by a concurrent resolution enacted by both chambers of commerce.

Starting point is 01:08:27 So it didn't have a lot of girth to it probably. But yes, I think you're right. The idea of doing this is a very tall order. It would be great. They'll make some changes, I'm sure. Let's go through some of these other... By the way, it would just be recommendations. They have no power to do anything. I'm in agreement with you. I have Doge clips if you want to just get them out of the way. Sure.

Starting point is 01:08:56 And I call them Doge knowing that it would attract your attention. I'm so attracted to your clips. This is NPR's trying to explain it. This is Doge One. Donald Trump announced the creation of the Department of Governmental Efficiency, or DOGE. He named two of his most prominent allies from the business world to lead DOGE, Elon Musk, the CEO of Space.

Starting point is 01:09:19 Just a point of order, the pronunciation of Doge is about the shit coin known as Doge. Otherwise it would be Doge or something. So the fact that it's Doge completely connects it to that. So I just don't like it. X and Tesla and Vivek Ramaswamy, an entrepreneur who ran against Trump for the Republican nomination earlier this year. Doge is getting a lot of attention, but a lot about it is unclear. Here to tell us what we do know is NPR political correspondent, Danielle Kurtzleben.

Starting point is 01:09:57 Hey, Danielle. Danielle Pletka Hey, Elsa. Hey, Elsa. Elsa Pletka Alright, let's do this. What do we know so far about Doge? Danielle Pletka We know very little, but we can glean some information from the statement Trump put out about it. For example, it is not clear if Trump envisioned Doge as an official governmental department

Starting point is 01:10:13 and creating that would require an act of Congress. But what we do know is that Trump said Musk and Ramoswami would be providing guidance from, as he put it, outside of government. So presumably, question mark, they are put it, outside of government. So presumably, question mark, they are not intended to be government officials. But that raises more questions because if this is an outside commission somehow, how is it funded? If it's taxpayer, how does that work? And how big is it? If it's somehow maybe funded from outside of government, wouldn't there be conflicts of interest? But then there's one more important important point here, which is that

Starting point is 01:10:47 whatever cuts Doge ends up recommending, Musk and Rameswami can't cut anything. Congress has the budget power. Exactly. Exactly. Yes. No one thinks about this. I'm glad you have these clips. Is NPR, even though they are spot on. They're in a role right now. NPR because after the election has calmed down they're not doing propaganda they're trying to explain things to the public which is what they're supposed to do and I think they're doing a decent job at the moment. And if you notice Elon Musk I'm going to cut all funding to NPR. All 4% that they get from government funding. Yeah, they really do.

Starting point is 01:11:26 All right. Yes, because they're woke, they're no good. All right, all right, all right. Those two. Calm down. Okay. So do we know anything about what Musk and Rameswami's priorities might be? In short, cutting, but that's about it. Rameswami said during his primary campaign for president that he wanted to cut the federal workforce by 75%. Meanwhile, Musk said during Trump's October campaign rally at Madison Square Garden, he

Starting point is 01:11:52 wants to cut government spending by $2 trillion. Now both of those would be massive if they somehow happened. $2 trillion is around one-third of total government spending per year. That would be very hard to cut without slashing the biggest government spending programs like Medicare and Social Security, which Trump has said he would not cut, so it's unclear how that would work. Likewise, cutting three-quarters of the federal workforce is a lot. And keep in mind, there are federal workers all over the country, including in red states.

Starting point is 01:12:23 So it's not as if GOP members of Congress would be gung-ho about cutting a bunch of jobs. But here's something important. We don't know what the top priority of this commission is. The statement about it talks a lot about cutting the federal workforce, but also talks about spending. Those two are not equivalent. The federal workforce is such a small part of government spending.

Starting point is 01:12:45 As of 2022, that workforce received around $270 billion in compensation. Government spending total is $6.5 trillion. So it's hard to put a dent in that by cutting workers. It's a gimmick. This whole Doge thing is a gimmick. Well, that's what we're concluding, aren't we? Let's go to the last clip we've done. How does this new department or non-department, I don't know what to call this yet, play into what we know about Trump's other ambitions for his second term? I mean,

Starting point is 01:13:15 in brief, it aligns with something he did at the end of his last term, which is called Schedule F. The basic idea is to recategorize federal workers, replace people in career positions with political appointees. Biden rescinded that, but he could do that again, cutting a lot of workers. But the big question to me is Trump's fiscal plans. This could save some money, but he wants a bunch of tax cuts. And so deficits could go up as they did the last time he was president. That is MPir's Danielle Kurtzleben. Thank you, Danielle. So one of the people not really talked about

Starting point is 01:13:48 in this storm of appointees is RFK Jr. We don't know exactly what his position will be, but I think the effect of him saying we're going to make America healthy again is already having an effect as this came out on Good Morning America. This morning, Kraft Heinz says it's pulling lunchables from the National School Lunch program. It comes after Consumer Reports urged the government to drop the product from school lunches entirely.

Starting point is 01:14:14 We found relatively high doses of lead, cadmium, or both in all of them. And most also had phthalates, which is a chemical used to make plastic that had been linked to a host of health problems. Kraft-Hinds bet big on its push to get lunchables into schools modifying the product to comply with federal guidelines. Touting lunchables as a way schools could cut costs but nutrition advocates criticized offering processed branded foods in schools and Kraft says the demand never materialized. It's the latest school lunch idea to face challenges. We also need to significantly change the quality of food that kids are getting at school. As First Lady, Michelle Obama

Starting point is 01:14:54 made improving nutrition a priority, resulting in new standards in 2010. Studies showed the standards help lower childhood obesity, but many schools said the costs were too high. And one study found students were throwing away 60% of vegetables and 40% of fruits. The Trump administration rolled back the regulations in 2018, but now with Robert F. Kennedy expected to play a major role in the nation's health care, more changes could be on the way. I'll get processed food out of school lunch immediately. About half the school lunch program goes to processed food. We're creating diabetes problem in our kids by giving them food that's poison.

Starting point is 01:15:33 Kraft Heinz says Lunchables meets all safety standards. So Kraft is smart. Like, oh, we better cut this right away. We don't want any bad. But let's let's be good guys here. Oh, there's lead in there. Oh yeah. The lead in cadmium.

Starting point is 01:15:48 Process crap and they know it. And I think this is a good development. Let's talk about some of the other appointees. Let's talk about some of the other appointees. Do you want to, you have clips, I'm sure. I have clips kind of naming and shaming. Yeah, well you name and shame and you do a clip and have clips, I'm sure. I have clips kind of naming him, naming and shaming. Yeah, well, you name and shame and you do a clip and then I'll do a clip. Okay, well, let's go.

Starting point is 01:16:10 Where are my clips? Where are your clips? Let's start with this one. Well, let's do the long form one there. We have a bunch of people all jumbled together. Trump chooses long form NPR. Trump is moving at a rapid clip announcing personnel picks for his new administration and some of them I think are what we could safely call shock nominee.

Starting point is 01:16:31 Wow, did you hear how she sounded there? No, cue me in it. Oh my God. Play it again. Hold on a second. Let me get the clip. Here, listen, listen. Tell me it's not the same lady. I think what we could safely call shock. Oh, there's no winning.

Starting point is 01:16:52 Doesn't she sound the same? It could be the same person doing voiceover. It's her. Yes. Oh, there's no winning. ... new administration. And some of them, I, are what we could safely call shock nominations. Wow. It's her. There was Fox and Friends host Pete Hegseth for defense secretary. Then there's former Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard for director of national intelligence and Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz for attorney general.

Starting point is 01:17:18 We're going to be talking about these picks for weeks to come. They all lack relevant management experience, but they have the most important qualification of all, which is loyalty to Trump and a willingness to execute on his vision. And all of this is in line with Trump's lessons learned from the first time in office, when he surrounded himself with people who were generally very well qualified for their jobs, but who ultimately stood in the way of the norms-busting things that Trump was trying to do. Excellent. Okay, that's good long form. There's no secrets. Let's just all hold hands. By the way, that's a great catch. Her? It's her.

Starting point is 01:17:52 It's possible. It's the same woman doing voices for the, that was American Dad. Yes. Maybe she is. A little side gig. Okay, let's start with Gates. Let's just go with Gates because he is by far the most controversial. We have Democrats and Republicans who were befuddled by this choice. Do you have any Gates clips? I have just the announcement of it, but I do have, and I could have gotten some clips from, it was one of the, I think it was Nicole Wallace. Don't worry, I have some clips, don't worry. I got some clips. Where's your Gates clip?

Starting point is 01:18:30 Well, I don't know if the Gates clip is in here. It's Trump chooses Rubio and Gab, or Trump chooses Gates. Got it, NPR. President-elect Trump floored some Senate Republicans today. Floored, floored him. So now he's in his pick for attorney general. As. Pedro D'Andrea Walsh reports Trump opted for a loyalist with a national reputation as a disruptor to help him overhaul the Justice Department. Trump's pick for Attorney General Florida Republican Matt Gaetz

Starting point is 01:18:56 set off shockwaves among Senate Republicans. Shockwaves? He's a top Trump loyalist and a conservative firebrand. He was the member who led to the removal of former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy over a year ago. And part of their public feud was over a House ethics investigation about allegations about Gates possibly involved in sex trafficking. The Justice Department investigated that and did not bring any charges, but there's still a House ethics investigation. So I'll play my first clip and then we'll discuss. This is Caitlin, the $3 million woman over there

Starting point is 01:19:28 at CNN with George Conway and his view on Gates as Pick. My legal sources are here, a pair of former federal prosecutors and Ellie Honig and Elliot Williams, and also the conservative attorney who was once actually if you can remember that far back Considered by Trump to be his solicitor general the number three at the Justice Department now outspoken Trump critic George Conway That was a very long introduction George yes your thoughts I You know everybody's like shocked Surprised there's nothing surprising about this.

Starting point is 01:20:06 Matt Gaetz, in a lot of ways, is the perfect attorney general for Donald Trump. We have a convicted criminal who's a president who has been adjudicated to engage in sexual abuse. So, why not select a guy who has been loyal to him and who wants to seek revenge in the same way Donald Trump does and who is you know was accused of sex trafficking. He's the perfect choice so I don't know why everybody's surprised. All right your thoughts I have another clip but your thoughts on Matt Gates as attorney general.

Starting point is 01:20:46 Well, when I was watching Nicole Wallace, she had Swalwell on. And Swalwell, well, it's interesting because I've seen Swalwell clips now for a couple of days. He's showing up. He's got a new agent or something. He's showing up on a lot of clips. And he sounds extremely reasonable. And he said that everyone's all bent out of shape about Gates.

Starting point is 01:21:08 And of course, we remember that he got Kevin McCarthy kicked out of the house. And Kevin McCarthy goes around now on a different Fox show calling Gates a pedophile. Out and out calls him a pedophile. A bit of an issue. Yes, I would say. A pedophile. Out and out calls him a pedophile. Yes, I would say. And, um, so Swalwell says, this is bull crap. The whole thing is just a setup. So he can't, he won't get confirmed by the Senate. And he goes on, he says, you guys are all freaked out about nothing because it's not going to happen, which you know, may, might be true,

Starting point is 01:21:43 but I didn't think much of it one way or the other until they had the Senate whip, the new Senate whip, whip, whip, whip whip guy on this morning's John Robert show. And he says that when they brought up Gates, he was like, and he's a Republican, he's hemming and hawing in a very awkward way because he was asked point-blank, are you as a senator just gonna just approve all these things just so you know just across the board or you're gonna give a careful thought or you said and the guy was hemming and hawing in a very awkward way which makes

Starting point is 01:22:19 me think of that Swalwell may be correct that Gates just won't get approved. I have that's possible and it doesn't really matter. I have a thought based upon another clip with the $3 million woman. Listen to this. If Trump's pick for attorney general is confirmed by the Senate, of course a big if tonight, they will have a long to-do list including ending weaponized government, Trump's words, protecting the border, dismantling criminal organizations, rooting out corruption at the Justice Department and fighting crime.

Starting point is 01:22:52 And I have new reporting tonight on who Trump may install in the second highest position there at the DOJ. I'm told Trump is seriously considering naming his lead attorney that you may recognize from his criminal cases, who represents him there, Todd Blanch, to serve as the next deputy attorney general. Though I should note tonight, nothing has been finalized. This is now I'm seeing a pattern. I'm seeing a pattern with what President Trump is doing.

Starting point is 01:23:16 He has Elon as the guy out front, and Vivek is going to be tasked with actually rolling up his sleeves and going in. Matt Gaetz is the lightning rod. He's perfect because all Trump has to say is, hey, Matt, what's that in your mouth? That guy is so compromised. The real guy is Todd Blanch. This guy is, he's the one. Your deputy attorney general, you've got power.

Starting point is 01:23:44 You've got a lot of power. This guy was a United States attorney for the Southern District of New York. He's a real New Yorker guy. He's done racketeering, public corruption. This is a serious lawyer. He's born in 74, so he's 50. This is the guy. This is the guy who's going to change a lot of things.

Starting point is 01:24:12 Matt Gaetz is just a distraction. It doesn't matter who was put in there, as long as it's compromised. I'm telling you, Matt Gaetz is easy. Matt, do this. No, I don't feel like it. What's that in your mouth? Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, we had those pictures. I think Todd Blanche is the guy to watch

Starting point is 01:24:27 He's the guy that's gonna and who is the Deputy Attorney General under Merrick Garland? Do you know? No, no, I don't either no one ever talks about him You think that guy doesn't have some real clout can't do something. I'm pretty sure he does Well during the the previous era when you had some of those creeps struck, whatever his name is, that was FBI. It was FBI. Oh that was FBI but it was still the second, it was an underling, it was a second level that was doing all the damage. They can, they have a lot of power, they can do a lot of things. So I think I like that, I like the theory.

Starting point is 01:25:01 Matt Gaetz. You set up a straw man and you have some real nasty assholes underneath. I don't think that's true with the border guy. No, no. Well, let's do the border guy. Do you have a clip of the border guy? I do not. Okay. I have two clips of the border guy. This is CBC. So it's international news. I'll play that one second. Hold on. Where is my guy here? Oh, here we go.

Starting point is 01:25:35 This guy. Democrats are already preparing to push back on former President Trump's planned migrant deportation program. Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey is already declaring that her state will not comply. If the Trump administration requests it, would the Massachusetts state police assist in mass deportations?

Starting point is 01:25:55 No, absolutely not. Every tool in the toolbox has got to be used to protect our citizens, to protect our residents, and protect our states, and certainly to hold the line on democracy and the rule of law. But the president-elect's newly named border czar Tom Homan says he won't be stopped by sanctuary cities or states. Look, I've seen some of these Democratic governors say they're gonna stand in the way, they're going to make a hard force. Well, I know a

Starting point is 01:26:22 suggestion, if not going to help us, get the hell out of the way, we're going to do it. So if we can't get assistance from New York City and I may have, we may have to double the number of aides we send in New York City because we're going to do the job. We're going to do the job without you or with you. And Homan defended the president-elect's deportation plan saying that it puts our national security first. President Trump has made it clear.

Starting point is 01:26:45 We will prioritize public safety threats and national security threats first. If you're in the country illegally, you shouldn't feel comfortable. Absolutely not. I won't feel comfortable if I'm in the country illegally. You shouldn't be comfortable either, because when you enter this country illegally, you have committed a crime. You are a criminal, and you're not off the table.

Starting point is 01:27:01 And I think this is great. I mean, I don't even care if the guy does it. I just want to hear him say he does it every day, all day long. I'm going to do it. Get out of the way. He's perfect. He's perfect. And oh, it's, it's, it's central casting.

Starting point is 01:27:19 Yes. Walk over the border, have a baby. Congratulations. The baby is now a US citizen. It's frankly ridiculous. That was President-elect Trump five years ago, expressing his desire to end birthright citizenship, a 14th Amendment right guaranteeing anyone born on US soil US citizenship. And as we inch closer to the beginning of his next administration, it appears Trump may

Starting point is 01:27:43 move forward with ending that right. And I talked to immigration attorney Ernesto Walsh, who says he could be successful in doing so. Could you see there being any legal challenges to this? Absolutely, without question, it'll be challenged. And now at the end of the day, whether it'll be something that they'll be allowed to remove or not, it's more likely that they will be able to pull this benefit. Walsh says it likely wouldn't be applied retroactively, meaning no one would lose citizenship if they

Starting point is 01:28:10 were born here. And Walsh says all of Trump's immigration proposals will take time to implement. It's important to understand that the courts are severely backlogged. And so with even the most aggressive spirit that President Trump may have, it still logistically takes time in order to be able to do things. And I think this is one of the reasons why we see the private prison stock soaring on Wall Street. Oh yeah, that was a good pick.

Starting point is 01:28:37 We should have had that one. One last one on our new Bulldog. Before you go on, I do have to make one comment, which is this 14th Amendment thing, the way they presented it is though, it's oh my God, we had this 14th Amendment, this is a violation of rights. You have to remember the 14th Amendment,

Starting point is 01:28:55 which was acted in 1868, was done to protect the birthrights of American slaves that were freed. That's the only, it wasn't for, so some people could come into town and have a baby. Right. It's interpretation of the law, as usual. The Board of Bulldog is also putting Scandinavia on notice. With Joe Biden's time in the White House rapidly running out and. President-elect Donald Trump naming his new team of top officials at a furious pace, Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland today chaired a meeting of the federal government's newly reactivated Cabinet Committee

Starting point is 01:29:36 on Canada-U.S. Relations. But that relationship looks almost certain to become more complicated on a number of fronts. One of Trump's key promises has been to carry out mass deportations of migrants who have entered the U.S. mainly via Mexico. But in an interview this week, Tom Homan, Trump's newly appointed border czar, put Canada on notice over its border. It's an extreme national security vulnerability on the northern border,

Starting point is 01:30:04 and it's one of the things I'll tackle as soon as I'm in the wild. Human smuggling has risen sharply across the Canada-U.S. border, particularly between eastern Quebec, New York and Vermont. The U.S. Border Patrol says it encountered more than 19,000 people crossing in this area between October 2023 and October of this year. Homan fears criminals or terrorists could make their way into America via this route. And he wants more enforcement on both sides. Yeah. And look, it has to be President Trump has to work with the Prime Minister,

Starting point is 01:30:36 True Love, and say, look, you need to enforce whatever immigration laws you have, because this is a gateway. Get out, you dirty Canadians. Get out. Get out of dirty Canadians. Get out. Get out of here. The border bulldogs on the case. This isn't aside from something that was said in that clip. They make a big point in this too.

Starting point is 01:30:57 It's like Trump is appointing people at a breakneck raid, breakneck speed. A fast clip. Fast clip. So it seems to me, Trump's been running for this job for at least a year, that it just seems to me that if you're going to run for president and then become president on January 6th or whatever, the day you get to the 20th, the 20th, the 20th, the 6th is where the Congress is supposed to be. The riot is on the 6th. After the riot on the 6th you get put in as president on the 20th. Wouldn't you have your cabinet and everything, all your ducks in a row

Starting point is 01:31:35 like six months before you even started your campaign? Wouldn't you have everybody lined up ready to, would you like this job, that job, the other job? It just seems to me. Well, he has them lined up and I don't... Yeah, but there's job, the other job? I mean, it just seems to me. Well, he has them lined up and I don't. Yeah, but there's only part of it. Why don't you just roll out the entire cabinet in one day? I mean, I don't see why this has to be dragged out like this. Even though they say it's a breakneck clip, I think it's slow. It's my understanding the way President Trump does these things,

Starting point is 01:32:01 is he has a big list and he puts a whole bunch of people on it. And he floats that around Because he wants to get feedback from people. It's almost like choosing the right UFC fighter You know to who is who's gonna bring in the biggest crowd with you know, he has he has all kinds of Done that six months ago. Well, cuz he has recess appointments that he's trying to get done No, I'm just saying the list to pass the list around. That could have been done. Well, you know, I don't know, maybe cause he got shot.

Starting point is 01:32:31 I don't know. There's all kinds of stuff going on. He was just find a whole thing peculiar. He was focusing on running. And I know that the press secretary, I know several people who were on the list, including my neighbor. I don't know if I ever brought that up, but she was on the list. She was in Mar-a-Lago for a week.

Starting point is 01:32:48 Yeah, you actually have discussed it. For a week. And I'm delighted to hear that. Okay. No, I'm not. Better. Alina Habba is going to be the spokes hole, which is great. She's the- You think? She which is great. She's the...

Starting point is 01:33:05 You think? She's a lawyer. She's cute. That's what you want. Oh, she is. Well, if you just want a cute spokes woman, sure. Hey, that's all you need. That's all you need. And I also think she's not going to do something every single day. I think maybe once a week, maybe every... I don't think they're going to do... He's learned from that mistake. Anyway, let's move on to another interesting pick I'll set you up Hegseth's announcement coming as the Wall Street Journal reports that the Trump transition team is considering a draft of an executive order That would create a panel of retired military personnel empowered to review and recommend the removal of three and four-star generals

Starting point is 01:33:43 That order is still a draft, but it's also in line with previous comments from Hegseth echoing Trump's claims that the military is being undermined. It's one thing to have DEI inside your corporation or inside your university. It's a whole other thing to have it inside the 101st Airborne. You can move to a different state if you want to go to a different school or if you want a different tax rate. We only have one military. And if the military goes woke, then it is less equipped to fight the wars that need

Starting point is 01:34:09 to fight. I'm straight up just saying we should not have women in combat roles. It hasn't made us more effective, hasn't made us more lethal, has made fighting more complicated. We've all served with women and they're great. Our institutions don't have to incentivize that in places where traditionally, not traditionally, over human history, men in those positions are more capable. Okay, so he's anti-DEI. Your thoughts on Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense?

Starting point is 01:34:39 Well, this is the one, I think may be the most controversial of the picks. Mainly because they keep the left and the crappy media keeps calling him a Fox host. When he's actually, he is a Fox host, but so is, you know, so are a lot of different people. I mean, there's like coaches that go on and do analysis of football games. John Brennan is MSNBC host. Guest. do analysis of football games. John Brennan is MSNBC host. But the thing is, he's a two time decorated Afghanistan, Iraq War vet, both of them, two bronze stars. He's been running veterans organizations. He's a buff guy.

Starting point is 01:35:19 The guy's buffed and tatted up and he's kind of an interesting character. He has no, I don't think it's a bad idea to have somebody that is this adamant picked and he probably is qualified to do something, but he's not, he doesn't have a background of a bureaucrat and he can't, you know, I don't see how somebody like that can run the Pentagon, but taking your step and saying who's gonna be under him, I do it him being the front man for somebody else that we don't know who it is.

Starting point is 01:35:56 Yes, this is the format. I think would make it all work fine and they also at the same time learn the ropes because the way I see it, I think he's probably a great guy, smart. I've seen him talk and he goes on all these shows. He handles himself well. And he's a Fox News host. Hello.

Starting point is 01:36:15 He can do the, he could do a great job of being the front man for somebody who knew the ropes of the bureaucracy and how it operates, which is something you just can't walk into. I mean, I've worked in a bureaucracy myself, a government bureaucracy, and it's daunting. And I don't see how you just don't take charge of the Pentagon, the one that can't even get audited out of the blue with no experience running a crazy organization like that. So it's, I think now I'm going to relent and go

Starting point is 01:36:46 with that he's not a bad pick if you put the right guy under him. Yes, and so I agree we don't yet have information on who the deputy Secretary of Defense would be, but Pete has all the right ideas and he is, I would say, read in on the strategy and he is, I would say, read in on the strategy and he knows how to talk about it. He knows how to sell it as witnessed by him on the Sean Ryan podcast. The Pentagon is in the book the exact amount of years,

Starting point is 01:37:18 but in the past X number of years, 10, 12, 15, the Pentagon has a perfect record in all of its war games against China. We lose every time inside the Pentagon war games. We know what our real capability, you see, we didn't even get to this part of the war on warriors. I mean, the military industrial conflicts,

Starting point is 01:37:38 the way we procure weapons systems. We're always, the way our system works, the way our bureaucratic system works, where the speed of weapons procurement works, we're always, the way our system works, the way our bureaucratic system works, where the speed of weapons procurement works, we're always a decade behind in fighting the last war. Whereas China, we have, you know, what did Romsfeld say? You go to the war of the army, you have. We have the army, China's building an army

Starting point is 01:38:00 specifically dedicated to defeating the United States of America. That is their strategic outset. Take hypersonic missiles. So if our whole power projection platform is aircraft carriers and the ability to project power that way strategically around the globe, and yeah, we have a nuclear triad and all of that, but a big part of it, and if 15 hypersonic missiles can take out our 10 aircraft carriers in the first 20 minutes of a conflict, what does that look like?

Starting point is 01:38:27 And when they're, if they've already got us by the balls economically, which you pointed out very well, with our grid, culturally there's plenty of elite capture going on around the globe. I mean, and then microchips and everything. Why do they want Taiwan? They want to corner the market completely on the technological future. We can't even drive our cars without the stuff we need out of China these days. I mean, they have a full spectrum, long-term view of not just regional but global domination. And we have our heads up our asses. Pete knows exactly how to sell China. He's going to be perfect as Secretary of Defense It's perfect whoever runs it underneath him. We don't know Yeah, he's perfect I mean more money spent oh well

Starting point is 01:39:18 Yes, in fact, which is gonna have to be done because the way things are going is going to I mean I still think 202026 is going to be an economic, finally. Yeah, and we need that. We need the 2026 economic crash and then we're going to rebuild it. The best way to rebuild an economic crash between two countries, because China also has economic issues, is to pretend, ah, we got war, let's build some and then we need hypersonic missiles. It's to pretend, ah, we got war, let's build some, and then we need hypersonic missiles. We still need big, beautiful ships and subs that go deeper than anyone else's.

Starting point is 01:39:51 Boots on the ground from a senior airman in the United States Air Force. I work maintenance on B-52s, and you guys are talking about China on the last episode. I have some insight on what they tell us about the upcoming conflict. We made new aircraft maintenance units, also known as AMUs, that are now bomber generation squadrons with the intent to have them ready to go as quickly as possible for upcoming missions

Starting point is 01:40:15 and conflicts. On China, they tell us constantly to stay ready for the upcoming conflict that it will be sooner rather than later. We are sending birds all over the world as an act of deterrence. We are expecting sometime between 25-26 to start a conflict as they believe that China will take Taiwan soon since they have a lowering birth rate and the population is diminishing and the time to act is now. Next boots on the ground Lockheed Martin. Sitting here in real time at my Lockheed Martin all hands meeting. Same guy I mentioned in my last boots on the ground correspondence was on stage. Same China warning.

Starting point is 01:40:53 A new face is on the stage now. Decorated female marine heavy lift pilot. She is going deep on the China rhetoric. Pushing heavy marine recruitment goals to be ready for wait for it 2027 China issues It's far from behind the scenes now out in the open and the trump appointments line up with this perfectly I do believe he says you guys nailed this one This is this is a setup and to me, I think you probably agree china's in on it We're not gonna blow up china. We're not going to blow up China.

Starting point is 01:41:26 They're not going to blow up America. We need each other. We're mutually beneficial. And certainly in how are we going to dig ourselves out of this economic problem we have? Well, we need something to build. I'm not going to build computers. I mean, we'll build computers, but... Computers are... The problem with computers, they're naturally cheaper as time goes by. Yeah, you need...

Starting point is 01:41:51 It's a deflationary product. It's no good. You need hypersonic missiles. And it's going to be great. It's going to be great. And by the way, I think that Colorado... Now, did Colorado vote completely Democrat as expected? Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, Colorado, you're out of the game. With a second Trump term comes a renewed fight over a permanent headquarters for US Space Command. Alabama Congressman Mike Rogers telling his home state on a radio talk show Monday, he

Starting point is 01:42:23 expects the president-elect to order Space Command to relocate from Colorado Springs to Huntsville as soon as he takes office. And I think you're seeing the first week that he's in office, he'll sign an executive order reversing Biden's directive and we will start construction next year in Huntsville. Those comments reigniting the years-long fight over the command's permanent home. U.S. Senator John Hickenlooper saying Colorado Springs is the best place for space command because it's already at work here.

Starting point is 01:42:50 Congressman Doug Lamborn raising security concerns, quote, as the world becomes more dangerous, we cannot afford any lapse in combat readiness. The Colorado Springs Chamber estimates the area would lose out on 450 million annually. Serves you right, Colorado. And by the way, this is not a new phenomenon. This is what Bill Clinton did to Texas.

Starting point is 01:43:13 Yep. When he pulled the super collider, which was being was probably almost 10 minutes from being finished. Monstrous product that would have dead that sir it was essentially sir and that we we would have here in the united states and he just pulled the plug on it because texas voted republican i'm going to uh... take the lead on the last uh... to controversial or interesting appointments this will be senator marco Rubio as Secretary of State and this Waltz character who will be Director of National Intelligence.

Starting point is 01:43:49 This clip says it all. I want to start this evening with CNN's Jim Schudo who is joining me on the phone on this breaking news. Jim, I just want to first get your take on hearing that it doesn't appear this is formal yet, but if Trump is leaning in this direction, and that is what all of our sourcing is indicating at this hour what's the significance of a marker Rubio as a Trump pick for Secretary of State would be in your view. One very much Caitlin puts China at the center of Trump's foreign policy the combination of Rubio and waltz both of whom are big China hawks Rubio's portfolio in China goes back years.

Starting point is 01:44:27 He's drawn attention to China's trade practices. He's pushed for restrictions on selling advanced technology to China. He's highlighted China's mass incarceration and forced labor of Uighurs in Xinjiang, as well as China's intelligence gathering inside this country. So he has a deep and long resume on China. And listen, it shouldn't be surprising,

Starting point is 01:44:51 given that Trump himself, of course, has made China a target, both of his national security policy, but also his economic policy, the discussions during the campaign of imposing significant tariffs on Chinese goods. And this would bring to his team a Rubio and a Waltz to individuals with history there and focus on China. Is it becoming clear to everybody what's going on? It's we can we can predict everything. We can predict it all. We've been doing this. China. It's we can we can predict everything we can pick it all we've been doing this China It's China and that's why Rubio is chosen. He's perfect. And if he gets out of line a Marco, what's that in your mouth?

Starting point is 01:45:35 We know you were yeah, he's probably got plenty of photos. You were a dancer. We I mean dancer. Mm-hmm Yeah, he was. Mm-hmm Any more thoughts on those? No, I think that there was I think there was another angle to this which is the which I have to watch I did bring up at the newsletter. I think I said it pretty succinctly there which is chink Ugers thesis What was that again with shank? It's not that I listen to his show all the time, but I have to say his ranting recently has been quite entertaining.

Starting point is 01:46:09 And he claims that Rubio and Waltz and one, I think one other person were all put in because there were, there were Israel hawks. And that was at the behest of the huge amount of money that was invested into the Trump campaign by Mariam Adelson. Ah, yeah, yeah. I do remember that now. And so he says that no one's talking about that.

Starting point is 01:46:36 And these picks had, you had to pick some Israel, pro-Israel hawks to assuage her. Now I I don't like this waltz guy. What's his first name? I think you're right. Rubio is controllable because of the photos. What's Waltz's first name? Oh, Mike? No, I think it's Mike. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:46:59 Okay. He is a, he's just a, he's like the Hohmann type guy. He's a grumpy looking prick who I have mixed feelings about. So I'm not a big fan of his, but again, it's like, if he's going to be the director of, he's not the DNI, he's the security. Oh, it's Tulsi's DNI and he's the national security advisor. Is that the idea? Yeah, he's national security.

Starting point is 01:47:27 National security advisor is usually a spook. My uncle was national security advisor to Bush. Yeah, well, they have spooky. They're very spooky in some way or other, that's for sure. It's a spook job. And so this guy and he I think he was a spook and they have the then we have To see the guy they're gonna head up to CIA who is another guy. I don't care for He was the old DNI guy and we might as well discuss Tulsi as the DNI person. I think that's a good pick

Starting point is 01:47:58 But then again, she's got to have be us. She's suspicious happen to be a, she's suspicious. I like Tulsi. Everybody likes Tulsi. That's what makes it even better. Nobody doesn't like her. That's good. And she's, I mean, it's not like Bolton. I mean, every Bolton was creepy.

Starting point is 01:48:19 At least Tulsi's we like her, you know, Tulsi she's great. What was Bolton's job? I thought he was an... No, I don't think so. I think it was just a dip shit. Dip shit in the White House. In charge of something or other. No, I'm a D-I-W.

Starting point is 01:48:38 What's that? Dip shit in the White House? Yeah. To give some credence to your 2026 prediction. There's new evidence that Americans are drowning in debt. Credit card balances hit a new record high between July and September, more than $1 trillion. And total household debt, which includes credit cards, student and car loans and mortgages also broke a record.

Starting point is 01:48:59 On the bright side, wages are now rising at a faster pace and depth. So things aren't all that great yet. And what you think may be the catalyst is, of course, a major portion, a major part of Trump's appeal to some technology sectors, including myself. Bitcoin is nearing $90,000. In fact, it's up about 30% since November 5th. Traders are betting on Trump's promises to be a crypto president by lowering regulation and ushering in a crypto-friendly Congress.

Starting point is 01:49:35 Reporter Hannah Lang has been looking into what kinds of changes the industry expects from the new administration. The crypto industry is broadly expecting that the Trump administration will be more lax on enforcement and overall take a very different approach than the current SEC where they claim that most crypto tokens are securities and need to be registered as such and provide disclosures to investors. The crypto industry disagrees with that sentiment. So they claim that they had difficulty really lifting crypto into the mainstream because

Starting point is 01:50:13 of some of the guardrails in place. So there are some people in the industry that are hopeful that with the Republican majority in the Senate and probably the House as well, it really enables legislation to be passed through reconciliation, where you could see a crypto bill kind of tacked onto a larger spending or tax bill that could pass kind of in a fast-tracked way with a simple majority. So since the election, Bitcoin actually blew through 93,000, hit 94,000, it's back down again, I think somewhere high 87. I did reach out to the former New York banker,

Starting point is 01:50:50 a skeptic of Bitcoin, and I said, how about that Bitcoin? His reply, the more real it gets, the sooner they will crush it. Okay. That's an interesting take. Yeah, just giving you the inside info. I'm biased, but he said crush it.

Starting point is 01:51:12 They will crush it. So, well, you know, I'm still waiting for Goldman Sachs to collapse. I think he had that on his list too, and that was a couple years ago. He's been waiting. No, I think the I still have a feeling that Trump's love of the stable coin, that that is his way of printing money. Because if I understand how the stable coin works, the tether is probably the biggest, USDT is the biggest stable coin now, or the biggest buyer of treasuries and other debt instruments to back their stablecoin,

Starting point is 01:51:47 which is one for one with the US dollar. And it's a great way to print money. It's like, you guys, if you just buy our debt and then turn that into dollars that we can use digitally. And that's what I expect Elon to use. I expect him to use stablecoin, not doge. Doge. I think he'll use a stablecoin. That is an interesting thing that is not being discussed. An interesting strategy to print up more money on top of money you already printed without it really being printing money somehow, if that makes sense.

Starting point is 01:52:25 Yeah, good luck. Well, no. Print, print, print. Thank you. Well, that's always been your theory. We need to print more. I've never said that. Oh, you, oh! In the past on this show, you said, oh, we should print hundreds of billions of dollars. Yes, you said, oh, we should print hundreds of billions of dollars. Yes, you have.

Starting point is 01:52:45 Well, find me a, somebody out there find a clip of me saying exactly what he said. I don't think so. What do you think you said? What do I, I never said anything along these lines. I played the clip where Milton Friedman goes on and on about how they stopped inflation during the Civil War in some areas where they're just printing money. They just stopped the presses and everything calmed down. Hmm.

Starting point is 01:53:10 My recollection is that in early… Well, you want to hear what you want to hear. Well, okay. I guess I have another quest. I just have recollections of you saying that you thought we should be printing a lot more money. Maybe. I don't recallections of you saying that you thought we should be printing a lot more money. Maybe. I don't recall it saying that myself. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:53:29 Pretty good recollection of crazy comments. Okay. Well, people, bingit.io everybody. It's out there somewhere. Get to work. Yeah. I will accept if I'm wrong. That is, yes, I just hear what I want to hear. I may have discussed a modern monetary theory and through that, Get to work. Yeah. I will accept if I'm wrong. That is, yes, I just hear what I want to hear. I may have discussed a modern monetary theory and threw that in as an overall comment, but it's nothing I'd recommend.

Starting point is 01:53:53 Okay. But years ago we discussed MMT, which was a big thing at the time. And luckily that's gone by the wayside. No, I just- Unless you like high price, $5 a gallon. Wait, what did I say? $6 a gallon gasoline, which is going to go up in California.

Starting point is 01:54:12 California. I know. I'm just, I'm baffled because I thought that was still kind of your, your idea that we should have been printing a lot more money. I don't know why I think that. You hate me. No, I love you. That's not true.

Starting point is 01:54:30 I didn't know that. Why would I hate you? Well, I mean, you can promise you that I have cash too, which makes it even worse. I hold cash. I have Bitcoin, so... I hold cash. I have Bitcoin. So... Can you...

Starting point is 01:54:46 Yeah, you'd be... I still think you'd have been better off with gold. No, my gold bar had to get taken away a long time ago. No, if you still had it. I have coins. I have coins. I got Krugerrands. Krugerrands.

Starting point is 01:55:01 Wow. There you go. This is a shot from the bow of the past. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in China. Say hello to my friend on the other end who I do love. It's John C. DeMora. Good morning to you Mr. M. Curran.

Starting point is 01:55:16 You may have seen the boots on the ground, feet in the air, substance in the water, names of the nights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Here we go. John C. DeMora. Good morning to you Mr. M. Curran. You may have seen the boots on the ground, feet in the air, substance in the water, names of the nights out there.

Starting point is 01:55:24 In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Here we go. John C. DeMora. Good morning to you Mr. M. Curran. You may have seeniffsy, Boots and Graffi, and the air service, the water, dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls, in the troll room, here we go. So we should be at 1,800 for a Thursday, is that correct? Is that what I'm... Yeah. Yes. 2,196, so we're just shy of 22, so we're almost 400 above the average troll rate. And you know why? No, why? Because people want to hear our opinion. almost 400 above the average troll rate. And you know why? No, why?

Starting point is 01:55:47 Because people want to hear our opinion. They always want to hear our opinions, but why today? I mean, our opinion, we did kind of- Well, it's obvious, because everyone's talking out of their butthole all over the place. That's for sure. They're like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, that's all you hear. That's, that is the, the culture war economy is in high gear.

Starting point is 01:56:09 Everybody has opinions on everything. Whoa, we shouldn't have this guy. John Thune, oh, Rhino. John Thune. Everyone's all like. Should have been Rick Scott. No, we just try to keep calm, carry on, see what's going on. It's okay.

Starting point is 01:56:29 Remember after the show is over, go outside. It's beautiful outside. When you're here in Texas, smell some fresh air. It's America. Some fresh air. There is a feeling of freedom in the air, John. The feeling of freedom. Yes.

Starting point is 01:56:44 Well, if you go outside. Yeah, yes, that's where the freedom is. You can smell it. In Texas, it smells like freedom everywhere. How does it smell in California? Do you smell freedom in the air? I don't smell anything in the air. It's clean.

Starting point is 01:56:58 It's ocean spray. Cranberry. Mm, my favorite. Hey, those trolls are in the troll room, trollroom.io. They listen live on the stream. What are you drinking? I heard you crack it. No, it was me moving the mic.

Starting point is 01:57:17 Oh, I thought you, I thought I heard carbonation escaping. I can tell you in advance, so it's going to be a polar. A polar. Premium seltzer. Boring polar. Do something fresh. Do something new. The day trip stuff. Nobody cared.

Starting point is 01:57:33 A lot of people are listening on modern podcast apps. You will need this. You will need this because, well, you know, by the way, bonus clip, I have a bonus clip here. I have a bonus clip. Um, where's my bonus clip. I have a bonus clip here. I have a bonus clip. Where's my bonus clip? So, podcasting is still open and free and available thanks to the work of hundreds of developers who... Developers, developers, developers.

Starting point is 01:58:01 That's right. They've all tapped into podcastindex.org so that your favorite show will not go away. And of course, there's consolidation happening once again in the podcast industry. And I think- No. Yes. I think I can tell you what the strategy is here, but we'll play this 45-second clip and it comes from Spotify. First, let's start with Spotify.

Starting point is 01:58:22 Take an aim at YouTube. They want to be the place where you watch video podcasts. The company held their annual Now Playing event and announced two big moves. First, it will start paying podcast creators who get lots of views. What? And it will let paying subscribers

Starting point is 01:58:38 watch video podcasts without ads. But keep in mind, that does not include what's called host reads. Those are the ads that hosts read themselves that are built into the shows. Now according to Edison Research, YouTube is the top place for podcasts with 31% of weekly listeners. Spotify has 27%. Apple podcasts, surprise to me, 15% share.

Starting point is 01:59:01 Video podcasts are particularly popular and continue to grow. Cheap production. Yeah, that's exactly what it's all about. So this report is bullshit. So they mix up metaphors of, oh, most people listen to podcasts on YouTube and then listen on Spotify. No, people listen to podcasts. The number one is still Apple where they actually listen. When you have Spotify courting podcasters to do video, well, boy, we need more of that, to do video and then pay them, that's an ad-based strategy. This is how people get the platforms.

Starting point is 01:59:43 And when you upload video, they disconnect your video from your RSS feed This is very important for people to understand What? So Never mind, I guess So you will have no control over your feed no control over your feed, no control over your broadcast mechanism. This is a bad idea. The same with YouTube. Your favorite YouTube podcasters will go away when advertisers start complaining again. It is a cycle.

Starting point is 02:00:17 Of course it's a cycle. We'll go through it again and we'll still be here. Our little podcast will still be here. We'll still be here doing what we do. Yeah. Complaining about not enough donations. We'll be doing host reads for Linda Lupatky. But we're not doing host reads ever. Well, we do for Linda Lupatky. Yeah, but that's not really a host read.

Starting point is 02:00:36 We're just reading the donation note. Eli the coffee guy. Exactly. And they're, what they're doing is they're gaming the system, and getting away with it because the promise is that if you write a note, we will cut it down if it's ridiculously long, but if you write a note, and your donation's over 200 bucks, we will read the note. And if the note happens to be promotional toward the company or person that provided the

Starting point is 02:01:06 money, so be it. But it's not like that we put a time aside in the middle of the show and go on and on about some product that is the greatest thing ever. We don't have meetings about your read. And we don't. Exactly. You get what you get. I didn't like your read. And we don't exactly. I didn't like your read. Yeah. Nobody can do that. It's like, you can't read, you can't read. It depends on the day. I mean, sometimes, you know, I'm bumble, I'm bumble. I don't have my enunciations not correct because I didn't get enough sleep.

Starting point is 02:01:39 Who cares? You're coughing all the time like today. I am coughing today. That's the freedom in the air. I'm breathing in too much freedom. It's making me cough. So yes, get a Modern Podcast app, podcastapps.com. And remember that we are value for value.

Starting point is 02:01:59 This is 17 years, we're still here. Value for value is where it's at. Yeah, okay. So we don't get Rogan money. We don't even get a set built for us like that Call Her Daddy podcast, as Chris Cuomo said. But you know what? We have our integrity, John. I can just see you rolling your eyes. Integrity, yeah. Integrity. The difference between us and them is we're a public service. Yes, we serve the people. We do. And unlike NPR, we're not in a bundle, not a plus bundle.

Starting point is 02:02:37 No, we're just there. We're there on the feed. You can get it however you want. We don't care. Copy it. Send it to other people. People used to put it, you know, we had Ramsey. He used to put shows on CDs and pass them out everywhere. Now people are like, what's this? What's this thing? What am I going to do with this thing? I still have boxes in the garage of no agenda CDs. You could throw it, throw these.

Starting point is 02:03:01 They make nice frisbees. You know, there was some football team, and I'm trying to think which one it is, cause I saw the game, I didn't realize they did this, but it's one of the southern teams, one of the teams in Texas. And when the team comes out, the football team comes out on the field,

Starting point is 02:03:18 everybody throws tacos, or not tacos, but tortillas. Really? Cause the tortilla will fly like a frisbee if you toss it just right. And so all of a sudden, all these tortillas are flying all over the place. All over the field. That's kind of cool. It's really funny.

Starting point is 02:03:35 Is that the Texas Tacos, that team? No, it's not the Texas Longhorns. It's some, I don't think it's Texas Tech. I'm not sure which team it is, but it's one of these teams. Somebody in the troll room might, if they're football fans would know. Troll room is not so helpful. They're funny.

Starting point is 02:03:52 They're not very, you know, they're not sports. I mean, they're at home. They're shut-ins. Many of them don't know what football is. Well, so we had a football segment on the previous episode, which was about football, i.e. soccer in America, and I was questioning why this Tel Aviv team was playing Amsterdam and it turns out there is a big tournament.

Starting point is 02:04:12 There is a big UEFA Cup or whatever. But no, I keep my eye on the troll, I'm like, anyone saying anything? Nothing. That's because nobody cares about soccer. But then they'll send me emails, you don't know what you're talking about. You sound like an idiot. And on, and on, on Twitter, on Twitter, hey, Curry. Hey, Curry.

Starting point is 02:04:34 Dude, my name's Adam. Where were you? You can just give me information. I'm happy to correct it. People get like, so what's the saying? It's that same guy. It is really only one person who does it over and over and over again. By the way, JCD calling anyone a shut-in is Pot Meat Kettle.

Starting point is 02:04:53 I don't know, I'm just reading. They're trolling. They're trolling today. Oh, burn me. Burn. So part of the value for value, actually there's three parts. There were time, talent and treasure. We appreciate all three of those no matter how you can support the show.

Starting point is 02:05:12 It is great when you promote the show. It is great when you support it through your treasure. It's fantastic if you can do something to help us out. I had a back and forth with Tantanil, one of our Dutch masters, because we're going to talk about the art in a moment. And she confirmed my worst fear. She said, I am reluctant to submit anymore because all the art looks so slick. And she is a top winner in our list of artists.

Starting point is 02:05:40 Yeah, she's one of the top winners. And so she hasn't submitted for a while. And she says, well, because I look at the art page and it's all so slick and I can't do stuff that fast and so I figure I just, I'll never win. And I wanted to assure our Dutch masters in particularly that it's not about slick. Slick is not what wins with no agenda. Look at us. Slick is not what wins. Yeah, no, slick is no good. No, us. Slick is not what wins. Slick is no good. No, if slick is, slick sucks.

Starting point is 02:06:08 You know why? Why? Cause it's slick. Yes. We want- Cause it's a known fact, especially in modern, the modern era. We want slick as slop.

Starting point is 02:06:20 There you go. We want humor. And Tantanil is one of those artists who gets us and she gets the humor and she gets the humor of the show. She can be quite amusing. Now in this thread, there were some conversations going on and said, well, I use it as a tool so I can do part of this and use some AI for this and some AI for this. That's fair, but still, slick does not beat out a great conceit, as we used to say in the business, which I thought was just concept in a snooty way, but the conceit of the art.

Starting point is 02:06:58 So that's what we're looking for. And we didn't really have great conceit on the last episode. We chose Kube the Boobs No Agenda Waste Buster, obviously AI, except maybe for the letters. AI is not very good if you say, put No Agenda in a piece of art. It comes up with the oddest things, at least the AIs that I've used. I don't really care. So we wound up with the No Agenda Waste Bus. It was a pretty piece, but it... It was a little cheese cakey, it was okay. But if you looked at everything, if we just go down the list of what was there...

Starting point is 02:07:34 It was a bad submissions show. The submissions were, they were not, nobody had any, nothing was triggered. The artists need to be triggered. Oh, I have an idea. They need that kind of triggering and I guess the show did not provide it. It's our problem now, we're at fault? Is that what you're saying?

Starting point is 02:07:52 I think so, I honestly do. Well no, people got the triggers like the demilitarized zone but that was just, Comments to Bloggers, stop with the round pieces of art. We're not gonna do them. Oh Trump on the phone. Oh, that's great No, I would say Trump on the phone is pretty lame. Yeah, it's it's the lamest of all the point Yeah, and then why bother submitting it? Yeah, you just you just vomiting AI slop everywhere You're just vomiting AI slop everywhere.

Starting point is 02:08:28 You know, we hesitated for a moment on Scaramango's reserve for my Trump voting husband, but at this point we're like, eh. And by the way, wait, wait, Trump on the phone, this is like an old landline phone. Trump's got cell phones, he knows how to use them. But see then, he puts the title in, On the Phone with Zelensky. Oh, so should I put that underneath so people understand the art?

Starting point is 02:08:47 This is a piece of art of Trump on the phone with Zelensky. Ah, ah, ah, ah. Can you tell? Now the piece I used for the newsletter. Yeah. Was the giant elephant and the small donkey. Yeah. Done by Clip Custodian.

Starting point is 02:09:06 Now that's totally AI. Yes. It's political. Completely. It's a little too political for me, but I can see. But I liked it. It was political, but we were a political show in many ways and that was a political piece of art.

Starting point is 02:09:21 It was different. It has a nice look to it. We're a comedy show. I like the elephant. We're a comedy show. Where did you get political from? Political comedy. Oh, okay. So anyway, Kube the Boob has tried a couple of submissions, first time for Kube. Kube the Boob, thank you. It was a pretty piece. It just had a nostalgia to it. I'm not quite sure what the pill is that she's holding on to there.

Starting point is 02:09:46 Yes, we discussed this pill. What is this pill? Is that the Waste Buster? Is that how it is? I don't know. Is it a pill? Is it a Wagovie? I mean, is that?

Starting point is 02:09:56 Yeah, I didn't quite understand. I'm just looking at the art now. Plenty of time to win. The stuff we have so far is nothing good. Although the farmer's wife is pretty good. You see that? No, no, no, farmer's wife. I don't see the farmer's wife.

Starting point is 02:10:12 It's the second row on the right. It's literally a picture of a piece of paper with a drawing on it. Oh yes. See, that's what I'm talking about. It says make art great again. Yes. Yeah, that's a I'm talking about. It says make art great again. Yes. Yeah, that's a nice piece.

Starting point is 02:10:27 I agree. But it's still up for grabs. It's way up for grabs. In other words, we're not picking it. No. Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you go to submit. We appreciate all of the art that everybody submits, whether you're a prompt jockey or not.

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Starting point is 02:18:06 Illinois 211-14 and he has an interesting note. I was flipping the radio channels and came across an NPR segment with a psychologist who was counseling listeners on how to deal with their mental trauma stemming from the election. I expect the next few days to be a target rich environment for the show. And then he wants the jingles, the eating the dogs, orange man, four more years. Make coffee, make mornings great again, he says. Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use the code ITM for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated, Eli the coffee guy. Yes, hold on a second, he needed the four more years. They're eating the dogs! Four more years! All right, we're awake now, no coffee needed.

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Starting point is 02:22:09 supports us with sustaining donations get one of your own go to noagendadonations.com and again thank you for producing episode 1712. Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth. I have a small, if it's okay, a small presentation, which is kind of a quest, a quest for our producers to help us out with this with some boots on the ground. I'll be interested. So you recall the story, I don't think we did anything about it. Maybe we played a clip about the FEMA worker who had sent text messages, avoid all the houses with the Trump flags. Yes. Did we play a clip of that? Did we play any clip? I think so, but the thing is now that you mentioned it,

Starting point is 02:23:12 I had a clip I could have captured and I didn't watch the show to do it, but I'm going to go back and get it. She came on to one of the Fox shows and I didn't get a clip of it. Right. Well, I saw her on the Roland Martin podcast. I can't believe I watched the Roland Martin podcast, but I saw a clip and it kind of caught my eye. And then I said, you know, let me listen. She seemed like a very reasonable person. Let me see what is going on. So the story as it was told is FEMA workers were ignoring any home in Florida, I think it was, during the hurricane that had a Trump flag. And this was an outrage. And of course,

Starting point is 02:23:53 it was presented as director of FEMA. I don't know, it was the director of FEMA. So she is on the Roland Martin podcast. And there's three entities that are going to be discussed. I'm going to try and set this up. One is FEMA itself. One is the company that she works for in her civilian life called Avernath. We'll get to that. And the third is, and as of this moment for me, unknown entity, which is a contractor to FEMA, who actually sends people like her out into the field. So what I quickly realized as I'm listening to this interview, and again, she seemed very reasonable

Starting point is 02:24:37 and she seemed quite hurt by what had happened, is that these FEMA people of which she is one they are not rushing in with you know to save you or you know that they are literally only there to Take your name and address and to register you So this is not like a FEMA rescue worker coming in with a with a backhoe and digging you out or anything like that. This is a group of people who are called up, sent out to go and, at some point, I think she called it canvassing, which was kind of odd. I don't know if I have it in the clip, but to register you possibly so you can get your

Starting point is 02:25:19 $750. They don't have any police protection. They just go from door to door and say, how many people live here? Are you okay? What do you need? Do you need money? What's the situation? Kind of looks at the scenario. And so what happens is, and she actually said that this has happened in the past with Biden signs, so it's not necessarily Trump. But a lot of people are like, what are you here?

Starting point is 02:25:49 Why do you want my name and address? Get out of here, you government shill. And that can get kind of heated. And so they are told by their supervisors who work for this third company who supposedly then take that information and give it to FEMA. I'm not quite sure why. This is very typical. This is something for Vivek and Elon. Let's get rid of these consultants or these contracting firms in the middle who are just get FEMA out there please. And if you're walking up a street and

Starting point is 02:26:19 you know there's three houses in a row they're like get out of here you know drain the swamp all kinds of stuff like that, they're like, get out of here, drain the swamp, all kinds of stuff like that. Then they're like, okay, we mark that down and we say, this is not a good street to go on, the people are hostile. And in some cases it would be in the past, it would be there'll be some political signs,

Starting point is 02:26:38 it could just be a whole street, or as she is required to write down, the people with Trump signs are not very friendly to us. So here's the first clip of this woman with, and she's been fired from FEMA, and she's also been fired from her civilian job. I was notified after I demogued, the next morning they told me verbally I was fired,

Starting point is 02:27:01 but they never provided me anything in writing stating that I was fired, but they never provided me anything in writing stating that I was fired. They all alleged that these actions were made on my own recognizances and that it was for my own political advances. However, if you look at the record, there is what we call a community trend. And unfortunately, it just so happened that the political hostility that was encountered by my team, and I was on two different teams during this deployment, they just so happened to have the Trump campaign signage. FEMA always preaches avoidance first and then de-escalation.

Starting point is 02:27:40 So this is not isolated. This is a colossal event of avoidance, not just in the state of Florida, but you will find avoidance in the Carolinas. Senior leadership will lie to you and tell you that they do not know. But if you ask the DSA crew leads and specialists what they are experiencing in the field, they will tell you. Demand for FEMA to give you those incident reports. They will substantiate what is happening to us in the field.

Starting point is 02:28:08 It's interesting to see the trolls already saying, she's a Democrat idiot. No, no, something else is going on here. And here is again, her explaining, listen carefully, it's only a minute, what she is actually doing and who else is doing this registering. So, okay, so you said, so explain what this chart here is. So you sent us this map and it has these dots on it. So what does this actually mean? So what that means is that shows you every home in that area.

Starting point is 02:28:38 Each dot is a home. OK. And that home, that dot gives you intel of if I was able to register that person, if I was able to register that person, if I was only giving them resources, if I wasn't able to access the property, there's all kind of things in that data for that one dot. So when someone says that, oh, there was at least 20 homes missed or we didn't do this or we didn't do that, we have to put that into context because this was a breach from a partnering company that FEMA hired, the surge capacity team,

Starting point is 02:29:09 which are usually just TSA workers. They took it upon themselves to say, we want to go and register these homes, knowing that it is hostile and it could possibly endanger the rest of the team. So because they didn't get what they wanted, they went and sent this information out and misled the people that we just bypass these homes.

Starting point is 02:29:31 We, we omitted these homes for safety precautions, not because of political plight, like no one cares about that. We want to make sure people can register. So this is where I got interested. I'm like, really? So this is where I got interested. I'm like, really? So FEMA contracts another company, which apparently also contracts TSA employees. So you already know what level you need. These are not people coming to save you. These are people to do a very specific task, as she says, registering, getting data. These dots represent data on these homes.

Starting point is 02:30:06 And that data does not go directly to FEMA. It goes to this third party. And they are the ones who leaked out this information about her and basically put it on her. And as I heard about her actual job, things started to come into view. At home, I have a regular job like everyone else. I have an executive position. I take care of things there for that job. I'm in contract with them on their terms. And then for FEMA, I work as a reservist. So my time for them is on call based on deployment orders

Starting point is 02:30:43 that I received. So not only were you fired from FEMA, your civilian, so your other job with Avanath, you've been fired from that job too. They actually did that in writing yes. First of all, what kind of company is this? I've never heard of it. What kind of company is it? It is a property management company. They are nationwide. I am a regional manager. Well, I was a regional manager for that property. I took care of their portfolios for various different acquisitions within it. This is all because of FEMA's doing. They allowed a partnering company to leak internal communication and then

Starting point is 02:31:22 relinquish all of my personal contact information. FEMA didn't just put jeopardize me, they also put my own company that I work for at home in jeopardy because all this information is on LinkedIn. Okay, so now I'm thinking what exactly is this company that she works for? It's not really a property management company in the traditional sense of the word. It is Avanath Kappa. Excuse me. What happened to your cough switch?

Starting point is 02:31:56 It's freedom. I wanted to make sure you knew what I was doing. It's freedom in the air. Avanath Capital Management, so they raise hundreds of millions of dollars to go out and buy properties. They specialize in something that I'd never heard before, and this is where I want producers who actually know about this stuff to help us. Something called NOAH, N-O-A-H, this is an acronym for naturally occurring affordable housing. So natural occurring affordable housing is housing that these guys buy up, particularly

Starting point is 02:32:34 when these properties have been flooded. And then they turn them into section eight housing, or they can just make it very low rent for a so-called affordable housing. Once you have the affordable housing, then you can get all kinds of zoning done with local governments. And my assertion is that this company in the middle is in the business of taking this data. And I'm not sure exactly what she registered probably the state of the home, the state of the damage, how many people

Starting point is 02:33:11 are living there. Maybe she gets some information how much they make how many people live there. I think the reason why they put it all on her is because there's a scam going on here where this company in the middle gets the data, sends it off to Avanath because she knows how to do this. She knows how to assess properties and what properties are, what damage there is, et cetera. And I think there is some kind of scam going on with this company in the middle that gets

Starting point is 02:33:42 this data and then helps these guys go target their acquisitions. I don't know for sure, but I'd never heard of naturally occurring affordable housing. And just my spidey sense went tingling like crazy. So if anybody has any information, I would love to hear about it. That's interesting. You know what I mean? And we're talking $675 million dollars, their last capital raise, to go and buy stuff. Well, isn't that a coincidence? Or a coinkydink. Yes, that you've got all these properties that have been flooded, they send out people

Starting point is 02:34:17 who know how to assess these properties, not save you. No, they go out to assess properties. Here's 750 bucks. Let me get some information from you. So if anyone knows, and there's a lot of angry people about this whole NOAA stuff, that it really is some kind of real estate scam, and these guys are an investment company.

Starting point is 02:34:44 They're not a management. No, Avanath takes a holistic approach to its strategy of acquiring and redeveloping affordable workforce and primary rental housing. In addition to investing in the physical assets, Avanath invests in community-based services and activities, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But then if you go look at the, let me see there, yeah, there, the NOAA part. Avanath concentrates on these rental sectors,

Starting point is 02:35:20 affordable housing, tax credit, project-based, section eight and other rent-restricted properties, generally targeting residents at 40% to 80% of area median income, and naturally occurring affordable housing, which is not a... it's just an acronym. It's not a government acronym, as far as I can tell, which are properties that upgraded to serve the needs of affordable residents. But how does something become naturally occurring? Well, typically by flood. Anyway, that's all I've got and I hope we have some...

Starting point is 02:35:54 Well, we have... Well, I don't think you have to hope too much. What do you mean? I have a lot of hope. I have a lot of faith in our producers. No, we have. So I said, we have someone that's very knowledgeable about this that listens to this show. Oh.

Starting point is 02:36:08 And they're going to say, oh yeah, this has been going on and they'll have the dare. This is 1953 when Eisenhower did this. It would be something like that. It'd be like, what are you talking about? How dumb are you? That's the way it always comes out. I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. It's just everything about me went, oh this stinks. Because you know, the vision we were given is look at this horrible person. She hates Trump. She's black. She hates Trump and she just wants to skip all the Trump polls. Yeah, that's exactly right. That's exactly the impression that you got from the social media. And it seems purposeful because of this company that leaks your information.

Starting point is 02:36:49 Well, it was just to rile people up. I don't think it was anything to cover up anything. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. How about a couple of Ukraine clubs so we can catch up with that? Oh, gee, I'm so happy about that. Since these will be a few of our last because it's all coming to an end, one phone call and this thing is done in 24 hours. I'm ready. I'm ready. Let's close it out. Let's close out Ukraine. We're ready.

Starting point is 02:37:11 So I have two clips and no reason I want to play these at all because I have climate clips too, which I'd rather play. Yes, that's important. We need to do climate clips too. But there's a kicker here. So we have to play these. This is a Ukraine update. This is a Ukraine update. This is NDD. Russia on Wednesday, launching its first missile attack on Kiev since August. That's according to Ukrainian officials, who say the attack involved strategic bombers and ballistic missiles.

Starting point is 02:37:38 Elderly women and small children taking shelter in an underground metro station. The Kiev region is always suffering. Kids can't go to school when drones are flying. And when there are missile attacks, we are seeking shelter. The scale of the strikes and extent of any damage were not immediately clear. No casualties have been reported so far. And in D.C. on Wednesday, President-elect Trump met with President Biden. After the meeting, the White House suggests that Trump should consider the Russia-Ukraine conflict to be one of the most serious global security threats as he returns to office.

Starting point is 02:38:16 You have an ongoing war of aggression by Russia against Ukraine, representing a larger threat to European security and therefore global security." The White House also defended the aid it has sent to Ukraine, saying the US also profits from it. These aren't just dollars that we're picking up and shipping over to another country. They're dollars we're investing here in the United States in American jobs, producing American weapons that we send to Ukraine. This comes as Secretary of State Antony Blinken was in Brussels on Wednesday to make sure Ukraine

Starting point is 02:38:49 continues receiving aid from the U.S. Blinken says aiding Ukraine could have two possible outcomes. Ensuring that Ukraine has the money, the munitions and the mobilized forces to fight effectively in 2025 or to be able to negotiate a peace from a position of strength. He added that the Biden administration will make sure to send all Ukraine aid allocated by Congress before January 20th. All right, I have thoughts, but you have a kicker, so I don't want to spoil it in case my thoughts is the kicker.

Starting point is 02:39:21 Okay, play the click. On Wednesday, Ukraine's prime minister announced that the country received a $1.3 billion grant from the U S saying that Ukraine will direct these funds toward essential humanitarian and social programs. Now, okay. Now they're getting their dissolved loans, all benefits us. And then all of a sudden we give it a grant is free money. I heard that the total amount that's still left is $8 billion.

Starting point is 02:39:48 They're going to have to dump it. They're going to spend it, spend it, spend it. And then the clip I wanted, which I didn't get, was Jake Sullivan saying, just to remind you, this is not going to Ukraine. This is going to our military contractors so they can make weapons for Ukraine. Well, that was kind of indicated in the first clip. Yes. All right.

Starting point is 02:40:08 Well, okay. Well, that thing's ending. It's all about China. Let's go to climate change. I'm very excited about the… Well, this is about the new meetup. Yes. I thought we just ended a COP, another one started right away.

Starting point is 02:40:19 Yeah. Well, we had the biodiversity, diversité. Oh, that's what it… Okay. I keep getting confused. I'm having too many of these meetings. Yeah. Now we have… what it was. Okay. I keep getting confused. I'm having too many of these meetings. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:40:27 Now we have, so that was COP16 biodiversity COP. This is COP- Oh, different COP. This is COP29 in Baku. Yes. Here we go. An annual global climate conference is underway in Azerbaijan. The priority this year is money, money, money, money to help the places hit hardest by climate

Starting point is 02:40:43 change. NPR's Michael Copley reports. Due to climate change, people all over the world face catastrophic threats from climate change. But the president of this year's United Nations meeting, Mukhtar Babayev, put the spotlight on developing countries. Whether you see them or not, people are suffering in the shadows. They are dying in the dark. And they need more than compassion. Woohoo! Hold on a second.

Starting point is 02:41:08 Just for that alone, I'm giving you Clip of the Day. That is, yeah, that's great. Clip of the Day. The guy is a poet. He's a poet. They're dying in the dark. Suffering in the dark, dying in the dark. They're eating the dogs.

Starting point is 02:41:20 No, they're suffering in the shadows. They're dying in the dark. Suffering in the shadows. This year's United Nations meeting, Mukhtar Babayev put the spotlight on developing countries. Whether you see them or not, people are suffering in the shadows. They are dying in the dark and they need more than compassion. This guy is an alliteration nutjob. Suffering in the shadows, dying in the dark.

Starting point is 02:41:43 Developing nations don't bear much responsibility for the climate pollution that's raising global temperature. Climate pollution. But they're getting hit with some of the worst impacts, like more extreme heat waves and flooding from torrential rain. So wealthy countries that built their economies using fossil fuels promised more than a decade ago to help their poorer neighbors pay to cut climate pollution and prepare for weather risks.

Starting point is 02:42:05 Leaders at this year's climate talks are under pressure to come up with a new funding target that's a lot more ambitious than the last one, which was set at $100 billion a year. These numbers may sound big, but they are nothing compared to cost of inaction. It's not clear where the money will come from. Did he say coastal erection? What is going on here? Yeah, coastal erections cost a lot.

Starting point is 02:42:26 They sound big, but they are nothing compared to cost of inaction. But it's not clear where the money will come from. The UN said recently that developing countries need around $215 billion every year in this decade alone to adapt to climate impacts. That doesn't count the cost of cutting climate pollution or compensating developing countries for losses and damage they're already suffering. No, brother. Okay. It just gets worse. All they talk about is money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money,

Starting point is 02:42:58 money. And we have to, it's our money. Anyway, let's go. Gaston Brown, the prime minister of Antigua and Barbuda, called for wealthier nations to provide grants- Barbuda? Yeah, Barbuda. Where's Barbuda? It's somewhere in the ocean. Barbuda?

Starting point is 02:43:14 You've heard of it. ...and Barbuda called for wealthier nations to provide grants, not loans, so that climate initiatives don't add more debt to poorer countries. Wealthy polluting countries are seeking to shift responsibility onto elusive private capital instead of ensuring decisive government action to reduce and disincentivize emissions. Wealthy governments say they can't pay for global climate efforts on their own, and that world leaders need to find ways to encourage more investment from the private sector. UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said countries could raise more money by taxing

Starting point is 02:43:50 polluting industries, like shipping, aviation, and fossil fuel production. And he said changes in organizations like the World Bank and International Monetary Fund could help funnel more private investment to developing countries. The resources available may seem insufficient, but they can be multiplied with a meaningful change in how the multilateral system works. Big sums require big change. Okay, so they're talking about $200 billion a year for all these different operations. Listen to this last little short clip.

Starting point is 02:44:23 Dozens of developing countries are calling for the new funding target to be set at more than a trillion dollars a year. That's 10 times more than the previous commitment, which wealthy countries were slow to deliver in the first place. They want a trillion dollars a year. Well, I can tell you why. Because there's a destination for this money. They didn't really talk about it, did they?

Starting point is 02:44:45 They didn't really say what the money was for except for coastal erections. However, I found a little ditty about this COP29 and I know what they're trying to do. As COP29 continues in Azerbaijan's capital Baku, the middle corridor is gaining attention. This key trade route offers a faster, more cost-effective alternative to traditional sea shipping. Have you heard of the middle corridor? Nope. Okay.

Starting point is 02:45:12 The middle corridor is an important logistical project. It's a strategic bridge between Europe and Asia. This trade corridor will significantly benefit regional countries by enhancing trade and boosting economic growth. The middle corridor... basically the train track from China to Europe. Yes, it's a Belt and Road train. Why did they just change the name of it? This is the middle corridor of the Belt and Road.

Starting point is 02:45:42 Stand by, let's listen to the rest. Economic growth, it will also foster greater connectivity, promote regional cooperation, and create new opportunities for investment and development. But it's not just about global trade. With the aim of reducing carbon footprints and assessing the reduction of carbon emissions, the middle corridor is also central to the region's green transition. The main goal is to present the enterprise as environmentally friendly. With its potential on green infrastructure and eco-friendly practices and caucuses, the middle corridor is not just a trade route, it's a pathway for the future of sustainable global trade.

Starting point is 02:46:20 Projects will be developed in cooperation between countries along the middle corridor, and they will be able to implement actions to reduce carbon emissions. COP29 is an important place for these talks. So this train track, which they say is more green than shipping, goes right through Kazakhstan. Two routes in fact through Kazakhstan, which is where this whole thing is being held. This is a- What a scam. A total scam.

Starting point is 02:46:52 This is all about completing the Belt and Road trade route from China to Europe. Yeah. So the Chinese can inundate Europe with Chinese product, cheaper Chinese products than they can make in Europe. And guess where it enters Europe? Ukraine. Hmm. Interesting.

Starting point is 02:47:11 One other interesting note about this was the delegation from, well, listen. The UN climate summit, the annual event where the world comes together to wring their hands in despair, to give grand speeches and to achieve nothing of real value. You're talking about the COP climate summit. This year it's the 29th edition, the COP 29. It's being held in Azerbaijan. While the big nations are missing, there is one surprising inclusion. The Taliban are attending COP 29.

Starting point is 02:47:43 Azerbaijan gave them observer status. They're not a full-fledged delegation because the United Nations has not officially recognized this regime. But it seems like an attempt by Azerbaijan to legitimize the Taliban. And they're using the UN climate summit to do this, which discredits the summit even further. Not only is it a useless event, it is now also a vehicle to normalize ties with the Taliban.

Starting point is 02:48:06 This year's climate summit will be remembered for this, for allowing the Taliban. It's a terrorist summit now. The Taliban is at the COP 29. Explain that to me. I have no explanation. I mean, no one's gonna give them money. Meanwhile... Oh, maybe unless they want to route, to train a route through their Afghanistan.

Starting point is 02:48:33 Could be. That would be a different route. Meanwhile, NPR just sits here at home and terrorizes our children and grandchildren about climate change. A new study shows many young people report feeling anxious about climate change. As Rebecca Rettelmeyer with member station WSKG reports, some universities are working to help students deal with the realities of the data. The reality! Over 50% of youth in the United States... The realities of the data, John.

Starting point is 02:49:04 Listen to NPR, shameful. With the realities of the data, John. Listen to NPR, shameful. With the realities of the data. Over 50% of youth in the United States are very or extremely worried about climate change. That's according to a recent study published in the scientific journal, The Lancet. But there are ways to help young people cope. Drugs! Says Cornell University Professor Michael Hoffman. Drugs, exactly! there are ways to help young people cope, says Cornell University professor Michael Hoffman.

Starting point is 02:49:25 Drugs, exactly. I think it's so important when we ever, when we do talk about climate change to provide solutions, the answers. What can I do? Hoffman is one of several professors around the country, reframing how he teaches climate change to put solutions and emotions at the center. He says his goal is to remind students there is hope. For NPR News, I'm Rebecca Rettelmeier in Ithaca, New York. Don't worry remind students there is hope. For NPR News, I'm

Starting point is 02:49:45 Rebecca Rettelmeyer in Ithaca, New York. Don't worry kids, there's hope. Vote for Trump! Due to climate change. Unbelievable. Yeah, well you see, we've seen this for years and years, these poor hapless pre-teens crying about the end of the globe and all the rest of it. And nothing changed really. Meanwhile, we're getting snowstorms in England prematurely this year, as far as I can tell.

Starting point is 02:50:14 Shh, shh, shh. Don't tell anybody. I have two final clips for today's program, and they are about AI. Surprise, surprise. Oh, well, you took up the gauntlet that I dropped last show. I am ready to, we're going to have to start calling it. The articles are coming out. Bloomberg is talking about it.

Starting point is 02:50:37 Everybody's talking about AI's data plateau. Despite efforts to throw more computing chips, more data and more energy at training these large language models, improvements have levelled off. Some experts now say they've even run out of accessible data on the internet to train these AI. And now as our tech correspondent Anna Tong reports, the possible solution could be an opportunity to reshuffle the industry's biggest players. As our tech correspondent Anna Tong reports, the possible solution could be an opportunity to reshuffle the industry's biggest players.

Starting point is 02:51:07 Hold on a second. Is that guy doing the announcing right there? Is he some character from The Simpsons? It's Reuters. It's Reuters. They're boring. They're boring. They've got terrible people.

Starting point is 02:51:19 I'm sorry. They're just boring. The possible solution could be an opportunity to reshuffle the industry's biggest players. So Anna, how are AI companies trying to get past this plateau? Until now, all the focus has been on when the AI companies are taking these vast amounts of data and they're using the AI chips to crunch the data to train these models. And now what's happening is that companies are shifting focus to making the model better when it's actually being used, as opposed to when it's learning on a vast amount of data. So if you use chat GPT now, what you'll notice is that when you're asking it a question,

Starting point is 02:51:55 it's just basically trying to predict the next word and whichever word they think is most statistically likely to be, it'll just spit it out at you. In this new world, they are basically coming up with a bunch of responses, and then it's using some sort of reasoning technique to then pick which path to go down. So the new models are actually much, much slower. And that's because they have to kind of consider all the potential answers before they go down a path.

Starting point is 02:52:20 Doesn't sound very promising. There's no more human data to train the models with. It's slowing down. This is not good. So does this new approach address some of those challenges around energy use, data needs, chip manufacturing, et cetera? Yeah. So I think it's unclear how this actually changes energy usage because in this new paradigm,

Starting point is 02:52:43 we're not spending as much energy on the pre-training phase, but we're spending a lot more energy on the inference phase. So it may turn out we're just using the same amount of compute power or even more. What I do think it definitely has an impact on is the types of chips that will be in demand. So Nvidia is now the world's most valuable company, and that is thanks to just the insatiable demand that AI companies have for their chips. However, with this new paradigm and inference, you can use a lot of more different types of chips and they can be widely distributed around the

Starting point is 02:53:15 world, which opens up the door to a lot more competitors to Nvidia. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. More competitors to Nvidia. Well, unless she names names, I'm not sure what she's talking about. One of my buddies had a company show up at his door at his ranch and said, we want to buy your ranch, name your price. He likes his ranch.

Starting point is 02:53:42 Didn't really want to get rid of his ranch, but his ranch is right near a huge transformer with gobs and gobs of power. And this is a company that builds data centers and then flips them right away. Ooh, a data center flipping company. Yeah. Yeah. I said, sell quick. I would.

Starting point is 02:54:06 Sell it. If they name your price kind of thing. Yeah, then you can buy it back for pennies on the dollar later. Probably. Now, I was just sent this clip from episode 441 of the No Agenda Show. This is from 2012. You might have to contextualize it for us just so we understand what you actually meant What do we need to do to fix to figure out we need to pump in about 10 trillion dollars of? phony baloney printed money

Starting point is 02:54:38 Into the system and probably another 10 in about two or three more years And then we're still gonna have an economic collapse in 2017. That's what we need to do. We need to print more money. I'm telling you, I mean, I'm the only guy in the block saying this, but I am. And there's other economists who'll say it. I'm in Bernanke print more money. And it's like, it's not causing inflation.

Starting point is 02:55:03 I think you said it. Yeah. I was being facetious as hell. I took it as truth. Oh, okay. I didn't know what I was saying. So I heard it wrong. I didn't know the comedic stylings of you yet.

Starting point is 02:55:16 It was 2012. It was early. Yes. Well, you won't find any other examples. Find something newer. Geez. I was very clear. This is like, this is the problem with sarcasm.

Starting point is 02:55:30 I've always thought that Tucker Carlson, that was sarcastic, by the way. It was like Tucker Carlson says so much sarcastic material that if you take it out of context, like somebody just did, then you don't know. Yeah, you sound like an idiot. Oh, I'm not trying to make you sound like an idiot. No, no, I'm not talking. I'm not saying you did. I literally said it in context. I'm just saying that's how the sarcasm works. If you use it too much, you end up getting burned by it.

Starting point is 02:55:54 Well, let this be a lesson. We have to stop with the sarc- We actually- I've always- Yeah, we're good at that. In the last decade or so, I have been a big proponent of being careful about sarcasm because people will use it like that. That's a good point. That's a good point. All right, then let's just do one final one just to lighten the mood and then we can thank

Starting point is 02:56:12 some people. Mattel may be hoping for a little magic this week to help make a packaging problem go away. The toy company apologizing for a misprint on packages of its collection of dolls for the upcoming Wicked film. The dolls packaging was supposed to show the URL of wickedmovie.com, which would take customers to a website dedicated to the upcoming feature film based on the hit Broadway musical.

Starting point is 02:56:36 But instead a misprint led the packaging to show a similar yet incorrect URL for an adult film website, leading to customers posting about the typo on social media. You know, this is not a misprint. We know exactly how this went. It should have been wicked movie.com. They just put on the sticker, put on the packaging wicked.com. And by the way, all the reports, what you just said, all the reports, none of them will mention the name of the mis- quote unquote misprinted website.

Starting point is 02:57:12 It is wicked.com. And as far as I can tell, it's not like a typical porn site. You can buy basically lesbian movies of girls who are not really lesbians because let's be honest they don't look like that but this is this is I did not check out the site but I'm glad you did I know I've got to take a look at this I'm like oh this is a this is not porn this is just like you know they got covers that could be in your video store if any I mean I mean, this is so typical corporate. Like, everyone went, oh yeah, this is good.

Starting point is 02:57:47 Yeah, Wicked is great. And everyone assumed that they had the URL. And they just all went forward with it and no one bothered to check. No one did any copy editing. Well, but then to say- And the bullshit was fact checking. Nobody does that anymore. Fact checking is dead. I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.

Starting point is 02:58:08 Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning. Fact checking may be dead, but our producers are still alive. What a bridge. What a segue. Oh, you're just spiking the ball there. You could have stopped. It was so bad.

Starting point is 02:58:32 I had to spike it to distract from the horrible segue I made. Yes, our producers, $50 and above. We love to thank them for their contribution to the show. And remember, we have John's Tip of the Day coming up and by the way for Sunday I have a tip. I have a tip for Sunday. I want to do the Sunday tip or we can both do a tip but I think I have a good tip. I don't care. Well I know you don't care but maybe you should be oh that's nice. Oh that's nice. That's a you know double tip Sunday. There you go. Put it in the newsletter. Double tip Sunday, everybody.

Starting point is 02:59:07 Not just the tip, a double tip. We got some meetups. We have some doctors to congratulate and John will take us through the 50s. Yeah, starting with Craig Hoy. Hoy! Hoy, Hoy! What a great name. He's in Pacifica, California. $133.33.

Starting point is 02:59:25 Sir Ever of the Watt in Linwood Aide. Aide. Aide. That's short for nothing, by the way. John and Adam, thank you for what you... This is a nice little piece of paper he's got here. Thank you for what you do and for reading the note of the Vietnam vet passing my brotherhood is quickly leaving around me. Please give all my Vietnam vets karma. Yeah, my brotherhood is quickly leaving. Oh, his brotherhood. Oh, yes, of course there

Starting point is 03:00:25 Where is our good old sergeant by the way? I don't know. He's probably still around I hope please change my night name from sir diet to short for nothing. The treasure is just because Thank you, brother sir short for nothing Kevin McLaughlin's up 8008 and it's a boob donation. He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs. Joe Beam, I guess, in Leiden. How do you pronounce that?

Starting point is 03:00:55 This is Dutch. This is a Dutch guy. He's in Leiden. He's in Holland. His name is, well, that's not a Dutch name. It says Xobim. He has a pronunciation guide there. It says Xobim. He has a pronunciation guide there.

Starting point is 03:01:07 I didn't see that. Oh, okay. He wants it. He wants a deducing. You've been deduced. He came in at 8008 too. He says he's been listening since that 70s podcast. That's you, I think. That's I've never since that 70s podcast. That's you, I think.

Starting point is 03:01:26 That's, I've never done that 70s podcast. Christopher Myers in Dallas, Texas, 75. Weston Wagner, Weston Wagner. He's in Fairbanks, Alaska, 69, 69. He wants some car sales karma. We'll give him that at the end. Tim Corolla in Manassas, Virginia, 6813. That's a birthday donation. For his dad's Tim Sr. and himself, Tim Jr. They listen a lot.

Starting point is 03:01:56 Jim Cleary in Paradise, California, 6006. Anonymous, 850, 60. and he needs a deduction You've been Deduced Christopher Dexter 58 78 Richard Dominelli in Dover, New Hampshire 5272 and I said happy birthday call it to Lydia Bear an anonymous cop in Redwood City there He is 50 50 and now we have the $50 donors name and location very short list today We didn't get a lot of attention Mike moon starts us off in Athens, Georgia

Starting point is 03:02:32 With 50 Andrew Grasso and miniola in New York Tom Del Vecchio and bland in Pennsylvania Stephen Ing in bucks elder South Dakota Gary Mao and Woodland Hills, California Andrew st. Clair in Salem, Oregon, Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami, Jared Yaw in Nashville, Tennessee, Brandon Savla in Port Orchard, Washington, Kevin Dills in Huntersville, North Carolina, Christian Freeman in San Marcos, Texas, and last on our list is Diane Schwannebeck in Johnsburg, Illinois. I want to thank these folks for making the show, whatever it is, 1712, the reality that

Starting point is 03:03:15 it became. Oh, by the way, Andrew St. Clair in Salem, Oregon needed a D-douching. You've been D-douched. Taken care of. Thank you all very much for supporting the No Agenda Show episode 1712. NoAgendaDonations.com is where you can go make a contribution. We don't read anything under 50 so thank you those $49.99. That's of course for reasons of anonymity. Although sometimes the

Starting point is 03:03:40 anonymous spooks just come in and say I'm anonymous spook. There you go. There you go. Just take it from me. Not enough of them. We didn't get any anonymous spooks just come in and say, I'm anonymous spook. There you go. There you go. Just take it from me. Not enough of them. We didn't get any anonymous spooks. Why do you have one government guy? Yeah, one government guy. We just presume he's a spook. Also, thank you for the sustaining donations.

Starting point is 03:03:54 Any amount, any frequency, you can do it all at noagendadonations.com. Here's the karma as requested. Thank you so much. You've got karma. NoagendadDonations.com It's your birthday, birthday On Noah Junior A short list for that as well, but Tim Jr. wishes his dad Tim Senior

Starting point is 03:04:14 a happy birthday. He turned 64 on November 10th. Sir Craig Allen celebrated on the 14th. That is today. Happy birthday, Sir Craig sir Stewart turning 60 on November 26 and Richard Dominelli That's happy birthday to Dame Lydia Terry. Congratulations for everybody here at the best podcast in the universe And we do have two title changes. Sir Stuart now becomes Sir Stuart, the angry accountant, Baron of Milford. I'll read parts of his note in a moment. And Sir Craig Allen becomes Baronet Sir Craig Allen. Thank you both for your support and your upage on the peerage ladder of the No Agenda Show.

Starting point is 03:05:02 There it is. That's just, what is it again? Just the regular old seltzer? Polar seltzer. Polar seltzer. Time to welcome our doctors of education in climate change studies. Thank you very much for attending our no agenda courses. You have done quite well and we are very proud to hand out doctors of education to Rick Bunch

Starting point is 03:05:23 and Sir Craig Allen. Yes, doctors of education to Rick Bunch and Sir Craig Allen. Yes, doctors of education of the no agenda studies of climate change. I'm getting there. I'm getting there. I'm feeling better about it. I'm feeling better about it. So Sir Stuart had a make good and he said, greetings from England to celebrate my upcoming 60th birthday on the 26th of November and the 25 years of marriage to my wonderful wife, Michelle, on the 27th of November.

Starting point is 03:05:52 I would like to apply to become a doctor of education and have donated the appropriate fee of $1,000 plus fees to enable the application to go smoothly, subject to your kind approval. I would also like to thank you for giving me a wonderful dose of jobs. Trump karma when I was awarded a Commodore certificate for show 1700, this has resulted in me being offered a wonderful new education role which the doctor will be very helpful in boosting my academic credentials and for my daughter Lucy has now finally secured an

Starting point is 03:06:20 excellent part-time role to build her CV and work experience after months of Noah disappointment. Noah Jenna Jobs karma clearly is the most powerful force in the universe. And he also gives us credit for helping get president Trump elected. I don't know about that. It's all us. Thank you very much. It wasn't for us.

Starting point is 03:06:42 Then we have a layaway and night note from Rick Fornival. He says, I have procrastinated writing to claim my knighthood status for some time. I've been on the $4 a week value for value program going back to 2016 and I will reach baronet status on Christmas Day 2025. I was going to wait until then to collect my dual status, but during the last program, a segment was presented that merits attention. During the show, you played a clip of Nigel Farage singing the praises of the no agenda so, yourself and his eminence John C. Dvorak.

Starting point is 03:07:12 While hearing the clip, my thoughts went to, isn't this cool, Nigel is fan of the show. You then immediately gave proper notice that this was a paid endorsement. I was pretty much gobsmacked. This was an incredibly clear lesson that is more likely than not how most endorsements go at 67 I'm no spring chicken to find myself in the situation was to say the least jarring Well, thank you for bringing this up Rick and some other people have decided to Give money to celebrities To promote no agenda. Please don't do that anymore

Starting point is 03:07:45 support the show celebrities to promote no agenda, please don't do that anymore. Support the show, not celebrities. This is, this isn't, you know, it was funny when it was Nigel Farage and we appreciate people trying to do something nice, but we, we think it would be better spent on us. This is where you agree. We have bills to pay. Yes. So even though it's-

Starting point is 03:08:04 I'm reminded, I'm reminded of the bricks. But the bricks, the money still went to Leo, didn't it? Yeah, people gave Leo money and then they put up a brick that said, no agenda show on the old brick house. That was no good. And where did those bricks end up? Because he had to move. Yeah, they trashed them. Trash them. It's gone. It was no good. And where did those bricks end up? Because he had to move.

Starting point is 03:08:25 Yeah, they trashed them. Trashed them. It's gone. It's no good. Hmm. That's a very good point. I... I... You are right. We don't need no agenda bricks. That sword is for our two knights. I need a sword from you so we can bring them up on the podium for the round table. Hello, Rick Bunch and Rick Fern of All. That's right, both of you support the No Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000 or more and I am very proud to pronounce the Sir Ricky Bobby of the Land of Many Wives and Sir Rick of the Northern Piedmont. Thank you so much for supporting your No Agenda Show. For you gentlemen, Hookers and Blow, we've got prostitutes and cigars rent boys and chardonnay along with that if that's not your style some harlots and howl doll or

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Starting point is 03:09:57 seal and it comes with a certificate of authenticity Noagenderrings.com is also for your doctorates if you want us to get the right name on it, so you can proudly display that in your office at your university job and give us an address to send it as well. Thank you so much everybody for supporting the best podcast in the universe. A lot of meetups this month all the way up through the new year. No reports today. I did receive a report, but someone like copy pasted a Word document into the email. And I mean, it just, that becomes unreadable. Have you ever seen that happen where someone copy paste a Word doc and it just gets all

Starting point is 03:10:43 these control characters? You ever seen that happen where someone copy paste a word doc and it just gets all these control characters? You ever seen that? I don't know that people that know what they're doing ever do that. Well, it happened twice, sent the same record. So I could not read it. Don't do it. It was even weirder. And I said it. So even this plain, you said it, I heard that. Yes. When I, when I did reply, my email program couldn't even find the reply to address.

Starting point is 03:11:05 It just had an empty field. It was the oddest thing. Maybe it was a spam. No, no, no. It said like meetup report. Anyway, today there is a report spam. The central Colorado election hangover meetup is at six o'clock. Man, are you guys still drinking?

Starting point is 03:11:23 At O'Malley's Pub, Palmer Lake, Colorado. On Saturday, the Dallas-Fort Worth mid-city's meetup. Is it six o'clock? Man, are you guys still drinking? At O'Malley's Pub, Palmer Lake, Colorado. On Saturday, the Dallas-Fort Worth Mid-Cities Meetup. That's 1130 in the morning. Sir NerdWorks is organizing the Bourbon Street Bar and Grill in Bedford, Texas. Also on Saturday, the Shrunken Amidala Support Group meets at two o'clock at Taft's Brewporium in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Treasure Valley Meetup, three o'clock on Saturday at Heritage Social Club in Garden City, Idaho The Texas Hill Country post-election freak off happy hour 330 that's in in Bernie Huh, Bernie, let's write down the road pure country. Oh, man. I think we I don't think we I think we have something on Saturday I'll check the Feral Housewife

Starting point is 03:12:01 I think we have something on Saturday. I'll check. The Feral Housewife, organizing that one. All aboard, Flight of the No agenda number 57. That's right, Leo Bravo organizing in Fortin, California at the Santa Fe Cafe on Saturday. The Minnesota Wellness Check, Wellness Check 430 at O'Brien's Public House in Shakopee, Minnesota. Alexandria's Virginia, new location meetup, five o'clock, the Spooks meet at the Lost Dog Cafe in Alexandria, Virginia.

Starting point is 03:12:29 And Sunday, our next show day, the Ocala Glass Bottom Boat Tour Meetup. Hey, this is the Florida people, the Reiki Princess. These meetups are amazing. They're big. There's always a theme. You have to RSVP to get details. Go to NoAgendaMeetups.com. At 1230, the Glass Boat Bottom Meetup. So I guess they've got a glass boat

Starting point is 03:12:51 and that's in Ocala, Florida. That should be a fun one. They just have a glass boat bottom. Well, that's possible. The Reiki Princess though, she does the shoot-ups and all kinds of fun stuff. The Black Hills Noagendameetup in South Dakota, Spearfish to be exact, the Crow Peak Brewing, three o'clock on Sunday. Oh my goodness, a lot, two more. The Too Many Eggs, Keen, New Hampshire meet up, 3.33 PM. Mimi says, hey, that's great. Margaritas Keen, Keen, New Hampshire, Too Many Eggs meet up. And the Land of the Morning Calm meet up and the land of the morning calm meet up at seven o'clock in burger and pasta in Korea in Busan Korea.

Starting point is 03:13:30 Oh, that would be great. Mr. Taigu is organizing that. Imagine going to Korea and like, ah, what are we going to do? Burger and pasta. Okay. That sounds perfect. Hey, send us a meetup report. We look forward to it.

Starting point is 03:13:44 There. Oh, November 21st, Elzante El Salvador. We need meetup reports, people. These are good. Let me see if we have any other foreign places. Light in the Netherlands, December 12th. Saventum, the Netherlands. Oh, that's March.

Starting point is 03:14:01 Meetups are usually pretty popular. Yes. So I'd love to hear from, I want to hear from all the meetups of course. El Zante, El Salvador would be great, and Busan, Korea, fantastic. NoahGenomeetups.com is where you can find out all the information about these meetups, get details, and if you can't find the meetup near you, fret not my friend, just start one yourself.

Starting point is 03:14:22 It's easy and always a party. I have, I don't know how this happened, but I have so many end of show ISOs. It's just not okay. It's not okay. Um, but I, I'm going to have one or two you think are super winners. You should just play those. Yeah. Okay.

Starting point is 03:15:01 Well, here we go. Hello. It's me. No, it's not. That's not you. Hello. That's not you. That's Dell BigTree. Sounds just like me.

Starting point is 03:15:09 It's Dell BigTree. Hello. And then we have this one, kind of bittersweet, this one. That's all they got, folks. That's kind of sad for Alex. We have... Enjoy sponsor-free listening. Or...

Starting point is 03:15:23 It's a totally new way to support what you love. No, that's what I got. I like to sponsor free listening in that group. I think sponsor free is a possible contender. Yes. Okay. Well, I have a, only I have four. Okay.

Starting point is 03:15:38 Including a rerun, which I'm going to keep playing until you pick it. Okay. Because you told me to. Okay. Start with dying. They are dying in the dark. Pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty good. They're dying in the dark. That should be kept as an evergreen comment. Yes, dying in the dark. As eating the dogs. It's up there. Then we have the evergreen oeve. Oeve, such a podcast. Yeah.

Starting point is 03:16:07 That's by request. Yes. Run on good. We've just been on a run of really good shows lately. Who said that? Somebody on NPR. Oh, okay. Well, that makes sense.

Starting point is 03:16:23 And the last one. Uh, thank you. Thank you. I think, uh, they're dying in the dark. Dying in the dark is it, man. There's just no two ways about it. It's good. All right. But you have to keep that one around as an evergreen people can request.

Starting point is 03:16:40 Dying in the dark. And remember, and remember on Sunday, we have a double tip of the day, but right now it is time for the Singular Tip, John's Tip in the dark. And reading the dogs. And remember on Sunday we have a double tip of the day, but right now it is time for the Singular Tip, John's Tip of the Day! This is kind of an elitist tip, but I want to get it out there at least. Hold on, the jingle's still playing, man. I just step on it, I like to bring it out, I like to... Yeah, but we couldn't hear you. I like to say, oh, that's producer's fault. Oh, oh, okay.

Starting point is 03:17:13 All right. This elitist tip. Elitist. Elitist tip, oh. I noticed, by the way, I went to Costco and they had a 95 95 right at the front, a 95 inch LCD, which is big for 1400 bucks.

Starting point is 03:17:33 And it was by that third rate come T C Y or some crazy company. And it was, they claimed to be O L E D, but it was like faded. I didn't think much of it. The point I'm trying to make here is that if you're gonna buy a flat screen TV, consider an OLED by LG electronics. I bought one of these a couple years ago. The thing doesn't weigh but three pounds, it's 60 inches,

Starting point is 03:18:04 the screen is so thin and it's bright and it has 100% viewing angle. There is not one angle, it's not like an LCD where if you go off off axis, it starts to kind of go away and to the point where if you go way off axis, you can't see the screen. These have 100% viewing angle right to the edge. OLED from LG is a, and they're expensive.

Starting point is 03:18:28 That's why it's Elitist, but they're worth every penny. And they have HDR that's dynamite, which is the high, the high, uh, uh, And you use this to watch YouTube TV? Yeah. But is that an HD? Is it HDR, YouTube TV. Yeah. But is that an HD? Is it HDR, YouTube TV? Well, HDR is a high dynamic range. Right.

Starting point is 03:18:52 Does YouTube output that? And so not everybody will broadcast in high dynamic range, even when they do 4K, they're kind of obliged to. How about Pluto? But not too many screens can handle a high dynamic range to the extent that these OLEDs do. Does Pluto have a high dynamic range? Not that I know of. No, how about, but I bet the over the air channels have some high dynamic range.

Starting point is 03:19:12 There must be one or two HDR over the air channels, no? Haven't seen one yet. So I get it. I get my high dynamic range from either movies that are put on Netflix or all, there's a lot of stuff on YouTube TV that has high dynamic range, a lot of sporting events. It's a killer. Oh, so you don't get any blurring, it just looks good? No, the blurring is more a function of the resolution.

Starting point is 03:19:43 The high dynamic range just gives you the depth of color. It has a gamut, it's bigger and it's just killer. I love hearing you talk about this stuff. You used to do this a lot. I think even on, what was the show we did at Mevio? I did a bunch of shows on Mevio. No, the one that you did, the one that we bought from those other guys. Cranky Geeks.

Starting point is 03:20:10 Cranky Geeks, yeah, yeah, yeah. You would talk about stuff like that. I miss that. Aww. Not like that. I want John to talk about OLED TVs. And I want him to say OLED instead of OLED. Okay, so this is a Costco, this item? Well, no, LG brand is everywhere and the LG has, they have the regular LCD stuff, but

Starting point is 03:20:37 they have their OLED screens. And look at this thickness of these things. They're made by, I mean, Sony makes OLED and so does this other company, but the ones that have been doing nothing but these for a long time is LG Electronics. They're stunning sets. They're definitely worth the investment. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is John C. Dvorak's Tip of the Day. Go buy an LG. Greetings for you and me.

Starting point is 03:21:01 Just a tip with JCB. And sometimes Adam. Yes, and sometimes John C. Dvorak. And sometimes Adam. And sometimes John C. Dvorak. And sometimes Adam. And sometimes John C. Dvorak. And sometimes Adam. LG Yes on Sunday we will have a double tip I got a great one I'm very excited to share this tip with you I think you'll like it. You'll even want this tip. You're like I gotta get me some of that tip. I guarantee it. Which means you just need to tune in on Sunday. Don't worry, we'll remind you with a newsletter on Saturday. It's what we do.

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