No Agenda - 1713 - "Lipless Wonder"

Starting point is 00:00:00 Now they should stop sucking it in. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's soon in November 17th, 2024. This is your award-winning Gilbo Nation Media Assassination episode 1713. This is No Agenda. Free of buffering and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley,

Starting point is 00:00:25 where I'm telling you whoopee's done, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. You're just following the rumors. I said it, it's about three or four shows ago. I know, I know, you did. I predicted six months max.

Starting point is 00:00:43 But now that you went after some poor mom and pop bakery where they had a national press conference after the fact. Oh, I missed this. What happened? This sounds good. What happened? Oh yeah. On the other day, she comes on the show and she says,

Starting point is 00:00:59 oh, you know, this lousy bakery wouldn't serve me because of my political beliefs. Is that true? Yeah, well, I mean, she went to this, there's a bakery in Staten Island that she goes to, I guess, all the time. And they make these parfaits and they had a whole table full of them. One of the, whatever that Sarah, wherever that one woman was, spit it out when she said this. that Sarah, whoever that one woman was, spit it out when she said this. And then she got to par face anyway and it turns out then that the bakery, which is a well-known one in Staten Island, did a press conference saying this is a lie. Our bake, our ovens were down and they went on and on

Starting point is 00:01:38 and on. It was a huge embarrassment. Oh, you know, back in the day, we all used to laugh at the soup Nazi. No soup for you! There were no lawsuits, there was no national outrage, you get no soup, you're no good. You were rude to the soup Nazi. You know, there's actually a place in New York where that supposed to… It was modeled after some guy, yeah, I believe it was. Yeah, yeah, I went to… Somebody pointed it out to me once, it was a after some guy. Yeah, I believe it was. Yeah, yeah. Somebody pointed it out to me once.

Starting point is 00:02:05 It was a little soup kitchen. I felt really bad for some dudes named Ben and dudettes named Bernadette Saturday night. Was it Saturday night? The Tyson-Paul fight on Netflix? Yeah, RuPaul, I guess, beat up Mike Tyson. Heyo! Did you watch? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:02:31 And did you have any buffering issues? Yeah, it crashed twice. At one point, it said, well, you better just turn off the app and reboot it. Reboot your router. Well, they didn't say that, but you had to turn off Netflix and get back and you missed like two minutes of something. Yeah, they couldn't do it. It was all big. So we're going to be the big streamers now. It's us there. We know we're doing here at Netflix. They couldn't keep the servers going.

Starting point is 00:02:57 They did it wrong. You know, we know how to market these mistakes the way it used to go if I can remember correctly the Victoria's Secret Fashion show that was streamed live and the way they market it was it was so successful and broke the internet That I don't think that goes over. I Just love how how incensed people were how incensed people were like I think they should be incensed for your what for your $15 a month and you get a free fight and then okay

Starting point is 00:03:37 Wait, well, let's be whole line $15 a month you get a free fight. You didn't get a free fight. You paid $15 a month No, but you get all you get Netflix for $15 a month. Yeah. You get a lot. And they throw a fight in. So what? You're still not getting it for free. But Mike, did you go on Twitter and go, you Netflix, you suck? No, because you're an adult male. I'm not going to say that, but I will say this. Broadcasting is a better mechanism for these sorts of things.

Starting point is 00:04:08 Well, it's too bad that television is in the fight for its life. It is too bad. It is. Linear broadcast is in the fight for its life. It is an anachronism of epic proportion. As RFK Jr. is messing with the primal forces of nature. I'm going to set you up. I haven't You loved going back to that.

Starting point is 00:04:32 I can't help myself. I can't help myself. I don't know how many people get that gag, but you keep doing it. You, Tina and me. So someone's going to go, hey, I went and watched that movie from 1975. He's referring to network. Yes, I'm going to set you up for for your clips that you have here. I'm going to hope that you start with the RFK Jr. And I'll set you up with something we used to do a lot back in the

Starting point is 00:05:01 days, we would go to a staple actually you would go to Inside Edition where we got the real news I mean this is like this is the real news everybody. Here we go two-parter. It's a mega mega celebration. A who's who of Trump world gathered at Mar-a-Lago last night for the black tie gala to toast their election triumph. Guess what? We got the second George Washington. Congratulations! Introducing the president-elect Sylvester Stallone. He's a Trump supporter.

Starting point is 00:05:35 Who knew? Well thank you Sly. You know Sly does not do that. He doesn't do that stuff. And he did a beautiful job. First buddy Elon Musk was with his mom. First buddy Elon Musk was with his mom. Did you hear that? First buddy Elon Musk was with his mom. And he did a beautiful job. First buddy Elon Musk was with his mom. He posed for a photo with Trump's ex-wife

Starting point is 00:05:56 Marla Maples. Yep, even she was there. Marla was there. He likes this place. I can't get him out of here. He just likes this place. Tucker Carlson was seated with R.F.K. Jr. and wife, actress Cheryl Hines. Also, Don Jr. and girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle. This was a... See, this is the kind of news that we want to hear from time to time. All this, oh, it's all bad. Oh, Matt Gaetz. Oh, R.F.K. Jr. No, from time to time. Hey. Matt Gaetz. Hey, first buddy, Elon know from time to time. Hey First buddy Elon Musk is hilarious. And now of course the setup for your clips

Starting point is 00:06:33 RFK and Cheryl were popular Everyone wanted to meet the man of the hour the man of the nomination by Trump to lead the Department of Health and Human Services Is causing an uproar? Frankly, I find it chilling. Many doctors are up in arms. They say he's a vaccine skeptic with no expertise in medicine or science. Significant concerns, horror even. Somebody said to me today, I can't think of any single individual

Starting point is 00:06:58 who'd be more damaging to public health than RFK. But Fox News is all in. Tune out the noise and the hysteria. He's not on a mission to ban medicine. I love RFK Jr. in this position. People should be excited about this. Literally crying. Lots of moms are taken to social media

Starting point is 00:07:18 to celebrate RFK's vow to crack down on additives and chemicals in foods. Overnight, MAGA has become MAHA, Kennedy's mantra, make America healthy again. Trump seems to approve, at least for now. And I just looked at the news reports, people like you, Bobby. Don't get too popular, Bobby.

Starting point is 00:07:40 Well, since when they become MAGA? What's that? MAGA become MAGA? What's that? MAGA? It's MAGA. Somehow Inside Edition now calls it MAGA. It's MAGA, I tell you. I can't believe it. I like the way they throw this stuff out.

Starting point is 00:07:57 My favorite thing is still, I don't know if it's in these clips, I think maybe, yet one point it is, is that Becerra, that guy who is the attorney general of California who's the head of HHS now, is basically a Stanford lawyer that was bumped up to attorney general. And they say, oh, Ken, he's got no background in health or science, which is not true. As a lawyer, he's sued these guys endlessly, health and science people. That's the least of the complaints. I mean, vaccine denier, conspiracy theorists, crazy killing dogs and deer and bears and

Starting point is 00:08:37 throw them in the park. They just keep on going. And luckily- I love the bear in the park. And luckily, it keeps the bear in the park. Luckily, it keeps the culture war economy brewing. Everybody can go on their podcasts and go, yeah, legacy media is no good. They're in the fight of their lives, people.

Starting point is 00:08:54 Have some compassion for legacy media. Television, let's just call it television. Let's not even call it legacy media. It's television. Television has a problem. Well, I think print media has got a bigger problem personally. Well, but we've seen that already go down. We know that the New York Times exists because of Wordle. I mean, we don't need to discuss that. In fact, the cord cutting has diminished the carriage fees and now one of their biggest sources of income is under attack.

Starting point is 00:09:28 But I'll let you go with your... Well, here we go. I've got a bunch of Shmear clips. Shmears. Shmears. Well, Shmear is specific to Cream Cheese, but we'll go with the Shmear. Remember, this show is sponsored by Israel, So we'll go with Schmier. A couple of things I want to note before I start playing these is that nobody will bring up the couple of topics ever about us, which is the main one is pharmaceutical advertising on television.

Starting point is 00:10:01 That's the big one. And they will net Fox doesn't bring it up. And Kennedy does bring it up, but they don't play those clips. It's just, that's the whopper because there's, it's estimated between I'd say nine and $20 billion worth of advertising per year is spent by the pharmaceutical industry on advertising.

Starting point is 00:10:24 I would say in general, if you take both sides of the equation, up to 90% of advertising is covered by both junk food that kills people and the pharmaceuticals that are supposed to keep people barely alive from eating that junk food. Interesto. And RFK Jr. has both sides of that in his crosshairs. And R.F.K. Jr. has both sides of that in his crosshairs. Nobody wants that. Well, no.

Starting point is 00:10:53 Nobody on television. So I got these clips from Abby Phillips. There's other ones too. I think they're Caitlin Cullen ones about Kennedy. But let's play these Abby Phillips ones. This is one of the shows. This is one of the worst of the CNN shows. Now, Abby Phillips, let me think, is she-

Starting point is 00:11:08 She's a black girl who's- Oh, I know who you're talking about. Yes, I know. And she's got the little round table of people and they do have one Republican on there who's quite good, whose name I don't recall somebody- Isn't that Scott? Isn't that Scott, what's his face?

Starting point is 00:11:20 Jensen? It could be. Scott Jensen, I think. He's good, and he fights back, and everybody's, you know, they have these arguments with each other. And it's kind of, it gets kind of heated, but it's pretty lame, generally speaking. But let's, but the setup for the smears, let's start with clip one.

Starting point is 00:11:38 Good evening, I'm Abby Phillip in New York. Let's get right to what America is talking about. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. America's still talking about the price of eggs, lady, but okay. Today I nominated him for, I guess, if you like health, and if you like people that live a long time, it's the most important position, RFK Jr.

Starting point is 00:11:57 Bobby? He is, in fact, Donald Trump's choice to run the Health and Human Services Department, HHS. It is an absolute monster of a bureaucracy. He is in fact Donald Trump's choice to run the Health and Human Services Department, HHS. It is an absolute monster of a bureaucracy. It administers Medicare and Medicaid and Obamacare. These are programs that cost trillions of dollars and impact tens of millions of Americans. RFK though is thin on the kind of experience needed to run a spelling agency.

Starting point is 00:12:21 He is even thinner though on real science. RFK Jr. calls his new potential gig a generational opportunity But stepping back this is the latest cabinet proclamation that is seemed to design designed to own the libs Perhaps more than promoting good government some of what rfk junior says sounds okay even decent Perhaps making the food supply healthier, making policy to promote more exercise, making the government less beholden to Big Pharma. That's all fine and good.

Starting point is 00:12:53 But then there's the stuff that he wants to roll back that doesn't make much sense, like mandatory vaccines in schools. I mean, do you like measles, mumps, rubella? Yes, I love them. Hepatitis, polio? What about chicken pox? It's great. It's itchy.

Starting point is 00:13:07 Well, all of these diseases are diseases that hardly exist thanks to mandatory vaccines and modern medicine. We are joined though today at the table by two doctors, Dr. Ian Lipkin, Director of the Center for Infection and Immunity at Columbia University, And Dr. Debbie, I'm going to butcher her last name here, so I'll let her say it herself. She's an associate professor of NYU School of Medicine. Dr. Debbie and Dr. Lipkin, I'm going to start with you both because, and Dr. Debbie, I'll let you start because- I don't know your last name, so I'm just going to call you Dr. Debbie.

Starting point is 00:13:43 Dr. Debbie, that's what she's saying. By the way, Dr. don't know your last name. So I'm just gonna call you. Dr. Debbie Dr. Debbie, this was she By the way, she the dr. Debbie never gives her last name. So she keeps calling her dr. Debbie This is like you get these phone calls from these these, you know from Punjab or wherever they are. There's all mr. John Mr. John we got a deal for you. Mr. John I'm upset that Hoteb Hotez wasn't there. He seems to be laying low this guy. Yeah, he better. It's probably a good idea. Notch mentioned that he is laying low. So let's go on.

Starting point is 00:14:19 But Dr. Debbie, Dr. Debbie thinks it's great to have a guy like Kennedy. No, what's the big deal? You see something in the RFK appointment that you are fine with. Tell us what it is. Well, I think the first question is, what are we trying to accomplish with healthcare at all? Which is to increase the life expectancy

Starting point is 00:14:40 and then when you have more years, to have more quality of life within those years. How's that working out? We've only gone down in life expectancy. That goes beyond just vaccines. That involves so many things. Our biggest killers are heart disease, cancer, cardiovascular problems, unintentional injuries. And the biggest barrier for people is really healthcare costs.

Starting point is 00:14:58 There's the direct cost where we have technology like robotics and AI, regenerative medicine, but it's not accessible to people. And then we have other barriers where even the people who might be able to get towards it where they have insurance, they can't afford co-insurances, deductibles, the indirect costs of transportation, and there's various biases and disparities. So my priority would be is this person able to do that? And I think he can address some of those things. And part of it is because he expresses a degree of skepticism, which I think we could use.

Starting point is 00:15:29 It's been several decades that we've had poor healthcare outcomes compared to the amount of money that we spend on healthcare. And so maybe we can try doing something differently. I don't think this should be a dictatorship or one person does, but at least we should try. Well, did she get the hook? This is not the right language. Well they didn't need to give her the hook because they brought this other guy, this

Starting point is 00:15:51 angry guy who's not a doctor per se, he's a doctor of something. He's an infectious diseases expert and he's a huge vaccine nut. And so he comes on and immediately just goes after the real issues here, which is, you know, Kennedy's screwy. Well, I've been, I've been tracking his views for a long time. Speaking specifically about vaccines. There is no better bang for your buck than a vaccine. I'm older, I think, than everybody else here at the table.

Starting point is 00:16:25 I remember seeing kids with polio. I remember seeing measles and cephalitis. The amount of good that vaccines have done is impossible to overstate. Measles and cephalitis, he said. And measles. I don't know how old he is. He's probably my age.

Starting point is 00:16:41 But I've never seen anybody with encephalitis. Have you seen, do you ever, I don't know what he's talking about. He says, Oh, I've seen people with measles. Well, yeah. Uh, and polio I probably have, but I know one guy, I know one guy in England who had polio as a kid. One guy, he's still limps. Encephalitis. So not from this guy's obviously a Vaxer yeah, let's go for him. Let's move and I think the risks associated with vaccines are

Starting point is 00:17:14 Vanishingly low there will be adverse reactions. Hold on. Stop stop the clip vanishing. You have to stop these clips this one If that's all true, but he, I don't have a problem with that. How about the liability issues? Yeah, if they're vanishing. They're vanishing. So you don't have these sloppy, here's the problem you have with vaccines. We just noticed this with the swine flu, what, 12 years ago when we were doing the show? Yep.

Starting point is 00:17:43 I looked it up. And they found live swine flu virus in the vaccine remember that one now remember 12 years ago We got all the PowerPoint presentations from a big financial investors conference for medical companies and Presentation you can go back and listen to it presentation after presentation Like vaccines are great. Why are they great? They're great because we have no liability and you're giving medicine to people who aren't sick.

Starting point is 00:18:12 It's a bonanza. That's how they were talking about it. Shortly after that period, which we were objecting to because they were promoting it because just for the profit. For the money, for the money, yeah. If you remember the vaccine, it's the stop smoking. Stop smoking, cocaine abuse, everything.

Starting point is 00:18:30 So vaccines, these aren't vaccines. They're just making this stuff, you know, just calling it vaccines. So there's no liability for their mis, you know, for their sloppy processing. How come? I mean, when they had the vaccine for swine flu with the live virus, too bad. And you remember. there's no liability. Tough. Same time, maybe, no, it was about the same time. 2006. Is that right? No, no, not 2007. No, 2008, 2000,

Starting point is 00:18:59 the HPV vaccine and they were hanging a little goodie bags on college dorm, dorm room, doorknobs. Get your HPV vaccine and they were hanging little goody bags on college dorm room doorknobs. Get your HPV. It stops three of the 27 strains of cervical cancer. You only need two. They hurt a lot and they're 300 bucks a pop, but get it now. We saw all of this. And even, I mean, a lot of moms at the time are like, I'm not quite sure.

Starting point is 00:19:24 I don't know, but I'm just going to hold back. That's where it started. And then of course we had all the injured. It started with HBV. You're right. That's when all the injuries came. The girl is walking backwards, if you remember that. Oh, it's been debunked before.

Starting point is 00:19:39 Come on. So we have these guys pushing this product, which is fine. Vaccines are great, but how about liability issues? You can't put just dog shit in a shot and call it a vaccine. And too bad if you get sick. This is not a good thing to have no liability whatsoever. It's vanishing. It's vanishing. Our vanishingly low. There will always be adverse reactions to any medication or any vaccine or whatever intervention you want to pursue. But if you look on balance and

Starting point is 00:20:21 what we save in the way of birth losses, encephalitis, paralysis, death, there's just no question. It sounds cool because most people don't know what it is. If you say encephalitis, oh my God, he knows what he's talking about. But these are beneficial. And there's the mixture of the, I think that the difference between what the two of you are saying is you're talking about the health part of what RFK is talking about. And then you're talking about the vaccines part, which is completely unfounded that he's

Starting point is 00:20:50 pushing all these vaccine, this vaccine misinformation. It's hard to separate the two. Separate what? The two? He's unfounded? Wait, what? What she says is unfounded that he's pushing? What, what's she talking about? What kind of sentence structure is this?

Starting point is 00:21:07 I want to listen to the end there. ...part which is completely unfounded that he's pushing all this. You're talking about the health part of what RFK is talking about, and then you're talking about the vaccines part, which is completely unfounded that he's pushing all this vaccine misinformation. It's hard to separate the two. Yeah, her structure is a little off because she's really saying he's right. Unfounded vaccine misinformation. Yeah, well, she's on CNN. She's a dipshit. Hey, she's got a popular show. At least 400,000 people watch.

Starting point is 00:21:38 I doubt it. All right. Onward to clip four. I just want to play a little bit about what RFK has said about the agencies that make up a big chunk of the healthcare infrastructure in this country, the NIH, the CDC, and the FDC. Our big priority will be to clean up the public health agencies like CDC, NIH, FDA, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Starting point is 00:22:05 Those agencies have become sock puppets for the industries that they're supposed to regulate. As in Trump and I are gonna replace the corrupt industry captured officials with honest public servants. We're gonna steer resources to meet our nation's biggest health challenge, chronic disease. These are incredibly, here's the thing, there might be capture, whatever you want to call

Starting point is 00:22:29 it, industry capture of these agencies. Those are incredibly broad statements for agencies that are by and large focused on keeping Americans safe and are doing that job every single day. That's right and against the backdrop of the time when those agencies work has been politicized, demonized in many cases, against the backdrop of an administration or President Trump saying that he actually wants to clear out nonpartisan public servants and replace them with partisan apparatchiks. So those two things are our intention.

Starting point is 00:22:59 And then there's this, look, if you want to care about regulatory capture, there's any number of different people who could deal with those issues, you know, with regard to chronic illness. But if you want to actually raise life expectancy, there's any number of different people who could deal with those issues with regard to chronic illness. But if you want to actually raise life expectancy, I think vaccines do a pretty good job of adjusting that curve upward. And you can't take this a la carte. You picking him is an intentional choice where personnel is policy. And because he's got a long record of being a crank on issues related to vaccines, that takes any of the positive good that you're trying to suggest he might do, which could

Starting point is 00:23:23 be done by any number of other people and instead you have to own that Who was speaking here? Who is that this is some other guy? Credentials does he have to say he's a That guy is the CNN Commentator he works for CNN. Okay. Okay. So he's delivering the goods there for the CNN commentator. He works for CNN. Oh, OK. OK. And so he's delivering the goods there for the CNN. Now, they had the guy that the one counter argument comes up

Starting point is 00:23:52 in the kicker here, and he pushes back on the guy, and the whole thing falls apart at the very end. If we're being intellectually honest, there's really no good reason why Bobby Kuhn. While I'd be intellectually honest What kind of question is that have you ever in a conversation with anyone in your life face to face said? If we're being intellectually honest No, no, of course not if this is why people like podcasts because this kind of dumb language doesn't pop up

Starting point is 00:24:25 TV TV TV talk. Yes, if we're being intellectually honest, there's really no good reason why Bobby Kennedy, RFK Jr., should be HHS secretary. An advisor, a confidant, somebody who talks to the president and advises, but there's no managerial experience in his resume. There's nothing that says he is qualified to do this job. What? There's no managerial experience on his resume? That's not true. I don't believe that's true either. But there's no managerial experience in his resume. There's nothing that says he is qualified to do this job, this job that is in charge of the health of all of us, all these different lanes. If he has views and has insights around food sources, around vaccines,

Starting point is 00:25:05 then those should be given in advisory roles. Why? Well, because... What were the qualifications of the previous ones? Well, I think it's important to always remember that you put yourself... Say that again? What were the management qualifications? I mean, Xavier Becerra... I'm not talking about the previous ones. I'm talking about...I'm looking forward.

Starting point is 00:25:19 No, but you're calling into question whether he could actually do this job. Absolutely. I think America is now And I think it's important to discuss it because Xavier Becerra was just a lawyer and a politician with no management experience. So there's two negatives, two wrongs, make a right. Sylvia Burwell was a Walmart lobbyist. Donna Shalala was a university person. Look, the fact that he's a nut. The fact.

Starting point is 00:25:39 Okay, so that's different than what you just said. You just said he doesn't possess the requisite managerial experience. But then we get to the real issue here, which is you want to insult the man. Oh, he's a nut. Come on, that's what we do. This is hell, CNN. So it boils down, this guy has this all, you know, you've got to be intellectually honest,

Starting point is 00:25:57 blah, blah, blah. He's a nut. He's a nut. That's what it boils down to. His opinion, he's a nut. All right, I got a couple clips. I think I can- Before you play that,

Starting point is 00:26:07 just play this Caitlin Collins, the first one here, it says smear Caitlin Collins. I just wanna see what this is about. Does that not make you concerned that children would be less safe if Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was running the Department of Health and Human Services?

Starting point is 00:26:19 Well, as I said, I think there's some tremendous positive things like focusing on chronic diseases in children. But of course, I'm concerned about vaccines. What I hope Mr. Kennedy would do... This is a different show. What? This is a different show. This is a Caitlin Collins show. I hear it. And you have another guy. It's all about vaccines. This is a vaccine industrial complex.

Starting point is 00:26:43 Yeah. This is a vaccine industrial complex. Yeah. But of course I'm concerned about vaccines. What I hope Mr. Kennedy would do, and it is a fact that the rates of autism have gone up. Just this week, a study was published in JAMA that depending on the age groups between 2011 and 2022, autism rates have gone up as much as 450%.

Starting point is 00:27:02 As a pediatrician and a scientist, I can say that is not due to vaccines. But that is not due to vaccines. So I would hope he would commission an independent task force, best scientist, put the NIH in the CDC. Just the middle of the script. She interrupts him and says it's not due to vaccines. He says, yeah, it's not due to vaccines. There is nothing in that research that says it's not vaccines. Why are they saying it is? This is them hoping to God that the drug companies don't stop advertising or can't or forced to stop advertising on their network. CNN has lots of

Starting point is 00:27:43 drug ads. They all have lots of drug ads. Yes, they all has lots of drug ads. They all have lots of drug ads. This, yes, they all do. You're right. They all have lots of drug ads. This is a disservice to the American public, these shows. Oh, oh! I'm shocked! It's a disservice.

Starting point is 00:27:57 Gambling. Oh no. Yeah. But that is not due to vaccines. So I would hope he would commission an independent task force, best scientist. Best scientist? Best price? Best scientist? We need best scientist. Commission an independent task force, best scientist.

Starting point is 00:28:15 Put the NIH and the CDC on this to say, you know, in 12 to 18 months, what are the likely causes of autism? We know it's going up. I can say I know it's not vaccines, but let's get some true scientific information independent of industry, of industry, you know, manipulation to understand what's going on. That's what I hope he will do. Of course, I don't know that. Yeah. I mean, again, he's a grown man. He has articulated these views time and time again.

Starting point is 00:28:44 I have not heard him moderate them. Maybe he is because he knows he's about to face a tough confirmation process. We'll see. Admiral, thank you. Doctor as well. Great to have you both here. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:28:55 By the way, Kaitlin Collins is the most severe looking woman on television. And $3 million a year. She's a $3 million woman. So what they keep referring to is the Wakefield paper. And this was also something that had already started before we started the show. And I recall that that that discreditation of the Wakefield paper was later somewhat overturned. But it wasn't that his science was wrong. It was that there was some payoff. Someone got paid to do something. I don't remember exactly.

Starting point is 00:29:32 Right. There was some corruption involved. There was some corruption involved, but not even necessarily anything that had to do with the science itself. And so for this guy to say, well, we should probably check it out that autism let's see if there's something to it. Okay so all Kennedy is doing which of course is correlation not causation is he saying when I was a kid we had three vaccines and one in ten thousand had autism now you got 76 vaccines and one in three kids has autism. I'm just paraphrasing these numbers here. So I'll stick with Caitlin Collins and we'll go with the former CDC director

Starting point is 00:30:11 who just spouts the most unbelievable nonsense about vaccines in general. I don't have him. This is great. This is great. And that's really the question here is when he is talking about that, that is often what we hear cited from people who say, I'm excited for this pick because he wants to, who likes processed foods

Starting point is 00:30:30 or who doesn't think that those school lunches should be healthier. But then you also hear him saying- Notice, by the way, they have no problem throwing the food industry under the bus because it's much smaller portion of the advertising. By the way, I thought it was hilarious. I love that President Trump is keeping R.F.K. Jr. close at hand. He needs the advertising. By the way, I thought it was hilarious. I love that President Trump is keeping RFK Jr. close at hand. He needs the protection. I'd say RFK Jr. is the most dangerous man, the most hunted man in America right now

Starting point is 00:30:54 and the first buddy. And they're all on the plane and they're all eating the McDonald's. It's like it's kind of kind of funny. Yeah, we're going to make America healthy again. Let's have some Big Macs on the 757 You know why he does that? He said McDonald's Cuz it's good Well, that's not true. It tastes good. No

Starting point is 00:31:16 I give up. It doesn't taste good. No, he had made the determination years ago that Because and I know this for a fact made the determination years ago that because, and I know this because... For a fact. What? You know it for a fact, whatever it is you're going to say. I kind of know it for a fact. It's because he can get, he doesn't have to clear it through the Secret Service, the food.

Starting point is 00:31:37 Oh, interesting. See, when Bill Clinton was in Berkeley, not recently, when he was president, he went to Chapeynece and I knew the Maiderdee there. He told me that the Secret Service came in there to check out the food, they had to check out who was cooking it, they had to do all these things to make sure they didn't poison him. So when Trump just buys random Big Macs from a random McDonald's, it's automatically cleared

Starting point is 00:32:02 by the Secret Service. They don't have to go through all the rigmaroles. Well, he ends up eating a lot of fast food. Well, that puts a whole new slant on the E. Coli in McDonald's Quarter Pounders, doesn't it? Could have been the fourth assassination attempt. That's an interesting point. I never thought of that.

Starting point is 00:32:20 But yes. Onions from California. No, that's, you know, a guy of Trump's age, E. coli could have been... Yeah, E. coli would be a killer. I'm just saying. All right, we continue with the former CDC director. Who likes processed foods or who doesn't think that those school lunches should be healthier? But then you also hear him saying things like linking vaccines to autism in children, which was debunked.

Starting point is 00:32:46 And you know, I think that if you want to say this, Caitlin Collins, $3 million woman, you can't say debunked. You have to say it was scientifically proven incorrect. But you can't say that because I don't think there's ever been any study since the Wakefield papers that have actually studied it properly see your previous clip of the same guy who said, yeah, we should probably study that. You think? Who likes processed foods or who doesn't think that those school lunches should be healthier. But then you also hear him saying things like linking vaccines to autism in children, which was debunked.

Starting point is 00:33:21 And you know, this isn't something that happened before and he's changed his mind on it because the transition co-chair, Howard Lutnick, who's running this, met with RFK Jr. in the lead up to the election. I had him sitting here and after a two hour meeting with RFK Jr., listen to what he said to me. And what he explained was when he was born, we had three vaccines and autism was one in 10,000.

Starting point is 00:33:45 Now a baby's born with 76 vaccines. I mean he was able to convince the CEO of Canter Fitzgerald who later said he believes in the science of vaccines on that on he was pushing things that are not true about vaccines and having a being the HHS secretary people trust you you have a platform. Yeah the the idea that Now wait, wait for this science. Tell me how this science works that this former CDC director is going to explain to us about vaccines.

Starting point is 00:34:13 Receiving vaccines would be parental choice scares me. You know, one of the things that we Because we need the money have in America is a contract between each other. And an important part of that in public health is vaccination. I vaccinate my children to protect them, but also to protect other people's children. Huh? Well, do they work or do they not work?

Starting point is 00:34:39 This is the thing that they did with the COVID vaccine. So you vaccinate your child to protect your children, which is fine if you want to do that. You can cut off the nuts if you want to use a John C. Dvorakism. So if you want to vaccinate them, that's fine. But how does it protect other children? If it, I mean, does it stop the spread? Does it not give your child? I mean, I don't understand. If they work, then you don't have to worry about other children, do you?

Starting point is 00:35:12 But also to protect other people's children. Sending a child to school, you need to have that confidence that the child sitting next to them isn't gonna give them measles or whooping cough because their parent decided that they didn't want to get their child vaccinated because they're hearing all of this misinformation. We vaccinate our kids because we care about our children, our families, and our community.

Starting point is 00:35:35 I don't understand the logic. It's the same with the COVID vaccine. You vaccinate your child to protect your child if you believe that that's going to protect your child. your child to protect your child if you believe that that's going to protect your child. But now it's like, no, no, I do that so that it won't give it to another unvaccinated child. This is not science. So let's bring in a scientist, Dr. Celine Gounder. You know her from CBS. She is one of America's favorite doctors.

Starting point is 00:36:00 Dr. Gounder, as a health professional, what is your reaction to this pick and what do you make of his credentials? Many of us are concerned that he doesn't have the medical, the scientific or the public health credentials for this job. Now that said... Oh, he has credentials, it's not the ones you like. There have been lawyers including the current HHSHS secretary, Javier Becerra, who have held that position. What is critical in those situations is that it's somebody who knows that they don't know everything about healthcare, public health, science, and that they're willing to talk

Starting point is 00:36:37 to experts to take their counsel and advice. And what is concerning is that RFK Jr. has been very vocal about not trusting scientific experts, technical experts in these spaces, and in fact has said he would like to get rid of civil service bureaucrats who have been lifelong experts working in these agencies, who are also the ones, by the way, who know how to actually get things done. Okay. What she's really talking about is, oh yeah, no, she's really talking about, you know, it's one of those deep state things again.

Starting point is 00:37:10 So these lifelong experts work at the Centers for Disease Control, they work at the Food and Drug Administration, they work at the National Institutes of Health. What are the implications if they're removed? Can they be removed? And how does that impact the health of Americans? Well, this is part of what Trump has also been saying that he would like to do is get rid of, quote, the deep state, much of which is these career bureaucrats, for lack of a better word, but really these civil servants who've dedicated their careers to working in the public's interest.

Starting point is 00:37:49 Without that layer of people, without these kinds of scientific and technical experts, we could really find ourselves in trouble. So what are some of the specific issues RFK has been wanting to take on? For example, and I think this is one that many health professionals are actually in favor of, which is better regulating our food supply, in particular food additives, preservatives, ultra-processed foods. But you actually need to know how to navigate the science, how to navigate the law. And to get that done, you would really need to have Congress on board. Congress may have to grant some additional authorities, particularly given some of the decisions made by the Supreme Court

Starting point is 00:38:27 in recent years, the major questions doctrine, for example. And without the right back-up, scientific back-up, it's gonna be very difficult for him to get that done. She says something very interesting here, which I caught it only the second time I listened to the clip. She's talking about doctrine. Now, in one case she's saying, she's mentioning kind of, without saying it, the Chevron deference. But then she says the major questions doctrine, which is another form, which I hadn't heard of.

Starting point is 00:38:58 And luckily we have our constitutional lawyer who's going to help us with this. But this is another, it's another version of a deference like Chevron deference. I think they call it the clear statement rule. When the agency asserts it has authority to decide major questions, court should independently determine whether the agency's interpretation of its statutory authority is the most reasonable reading of the statute. That's Chevron deference. Under this major questions, the doctrine says that courts must not interpret statutes as delegating major questions to agencies, unless Congress clearly said so. So she is on the inside somehow and already knows that this is

Starting point is 00:39:43 where it's going to go towards and probably not the Supreme Court ruling about this major questions doctrine, which is new for me. So we're going to get the skinny on this. She'll wrap it up by telling you, you're stupid, you don't know what you're talking about, don't you dare try and research anything yourself, and measles will kill your child. Let me talk to you about this. The CDC and World Health Organization said on Thursday the global measles cases surged by more than 20% last year.

Starting point is 00:40:14 Of what? Of what? I'm doing a John C to work. Of what? Did it go to 20, to 200, to 2000? Of what? The global measles... Did it get done from... yeah. We don't know. we don't know. The measles cases surged by more than 20% last year. About 100. 10 to 12. 10 to 12.

Starting point is 00:40:32 Then 7,000 people, mostly young children, died from the disease. We just heard how Kennedy feels about the measles vaccine in particular. We also know that the measles vaccine is highly effective at preventing death from measles. Really? So what kind of effect might Kennedy's advocacy, even though he says that people should be allowed to make their own decision about taking vaccines? I just have a question. My impression of the measles vaccine, which I didn't receive, I got measles, I got chicken

Starting point is 00:41:07 pox, I got the mumps in my lifetime. We're not super old and we've been around for a bit. I've had all three myself. Yeah. We didn't have a vaccine for it. Wasn't the point of the vaccine, well, you won't get it. And now it's like, no, you won't die from it. This is the COVID speak again.

Starting point is 00:41:32 Yeah. COVID speak. COVID speak. Yes. What, what do you think the actual implications, the impact that will have on- Oh wait, stop a second. I just want to, I want to mention something. You know, the, the COVID thing was always, well, I, I got, I got sick, but I would have gotten sicker if I hadn't had the shot. There's no way of proving that. No. No. You can't prove a negative or some smart saying like that. What do you think the actual implications, the impact that will have on what is really

Starting point is 00:42:00 for health professionals a concerning trend when we're talking about measles? Here it comes. Well, a couple of things. One, he made a comment that the measles vaccine does not induce sterilizing immunity. That in fact is all the more reason you need the population immunity. Think of it as you're holding an umbrella by yourself.

Starting point is 00:42:17 Hold on a second. So she's going to agree here that it doesn't make you sterile from measles, doesn't completely 100% save you from getting it, but now she's gonna say, we all need a little bit of protection to protect everybody else. Not induce sterilizing immunity.

Starting point is 00:42:35 That in fact is all the more reason you need the population immunity. Think of it as you're holding an umbrella by yourself in a storm versus you're in a crowd of people, all of them with overlapping umbrellas. You're going to be way dryer in that crowd of umbrellas. And that's essentially- Oh my God, what kind of an analogy is this?

Starting point is 00:42:53 It's vaccine umbrella theory. Surely you've heard of it. It's vaccine umbrella. You're going to be way dryer in that crowd of umbrellas. And that's essentially what we try to do with the measles- You're going to be bumping into umbrellas is what you're going to be doing. ... vaccine. Now, it's very concerning because the fact is most people do not have the expertise.

Starting point is 00:43:11 Googling, by the way, is not doing research that is in general going to confirm any biases, emotions you might have had. Science is when you formulate a hypothesis, you experiment to test the hypothesis, you understand how to distinguish between causation and correlation. You understand that you have to repeat experiments time and again to make sure your result is not just a statistical fluke coincidence. You mean like climate change nonsense? That is science.

Starting point is 00:43:42 Science. What people do when they go on Google, that is not science. And that is not doing research. Shut up. And so what's happening is people are confirming these emotional reactions. And I think that is what it will drive a lot of the decision making.

Starting point is 00:43:55 So notice that they've completely moved away from the actual issue, which is, and she didn't give us any data for that. I didn't hear Caitlin or any, no, not Caitlin, the CBS morning team say, well, I mean, autism has gone down since we've had the measles vaccine. Autism is diminishing because it's not,

Starting point is 00:44:17 or say, hey, maybe autism is caused by something else. They don't have any research on that, so they don't talk about it. So they're, what is that, what do you call that, the Overton window? Or they're moving the goalposts, they're distracting you. Yeah, they're moving the goalposts. It's unbelievable. And then they're so arrogant about it. Oh, you know, you just go on Google, you think you're doing research. Well, if you Google research papers and you read a few research papers, that's kind of doing research. Are you a scientist? Are you a scientist?

Starting point is 00:44:52 I am actually. I can claim to be a scientist. I was a chemist professionally. Hey, I believe you. I'm just saying that you need to be quiet. Now before I get to my killer clips, I want to remind everybody of the 1970s TV series, The Brady Bunch. Hi. Peter. What are you doing home from school? They sent me home. Measles.

Starting point is 00:45:18 Now see, their measles are a strange case of red freckles. You have got a temperature. They told me 101.1. What's the record? Never mind. Oh, are you sure it's the measles? Well, he certainly got all the symptoms. A slight temperature, a lot of dots,

Starting point is 00:45:33 and a great big smile. A great big smile? No school for a few days. Say hello to my dotted son for me. Tell him I'll bring him some comic books and I'll see you later, dear. Okay, honey, bye. Boy, this is the life, isn't it?

Starting point is 00:45:44 Yeah, if you have to get sick, you sure can't beat the measles. That's right, no medicine. Inside or out, like shots at me. Don't even mention shots, yes! Oh! Measles, measles, measles. Well, all the kids have now had the measles.

Starting point is 00:46:01 So have I. Well, I had them years ago. Looks like the Brady's are finished with the measles. Hold it. No, Alice. You're not through yet. Alice, don't tell me you're coming down with the measles. Oh, I hope so.

Starting point is 00:46:20 I'd hate to think I was just learning how to blush at my age. I can't even believe if that still runs on television anywhere. Can you imagine the pharmaceutical industry noticing a Brady Bunch kid saying, oh, I hate shots? No, no, no, no. So I have the three, the three clips here. They're all relatively short of RFK Jr. himself speaking.

Starting point is 00:46:47 I believe this was an interview done while he was at Mar-a-Lago. This is why he is the most dangerous man in America today and must be protected at all costs. Reason number one. I'm not intimidated by the agencies. I know how they work and I know how to change them. And most of those changes you do not need Congress for. The President, President Trump could have done it, had the power to do it himself, and President Biden has

Starting point is 00:47:13 the power to do it himself. And I'll give you an example. With a stroke of the pen, you can change back the rule that allows pharmaceutical advertisers to do direct to consumer ads on television. That's one of the big problems. That's one of the reasons we have this entrenched agency capture not only of Congress because they control the airwaves, they control the evening news. 75% of the revenues for those evening news shows are, you know, Anderson Cooper is coming from Pfizer, other pharmaceutical companies. So and those companies are dictating content on those shows and they dictate the official

Starting point is 00:47:52 narratives and they're able then to exercise huge control over Congress. So Congress is terrified of them. But with a stroke in the head, you can say this is not good for the health of our country, which it isn't. We spent three times more than any other country for pharmaceutical drugs because of all this advertising. There's number one. Now I looked it up. I know just because I do Google searches doesn't mean I'm a lawyer. It is actually more powerful for the Secretary of Health and human services to direct the FDA to change

Starting point is 00:48:25 the rules of television advertising, which have changed all the time. Go ahead. Where'd you get that clip? It's the, um, Oh, what's her name? Uh, it's a clip of the day type clip, but I, it didn't show up on the media. There was nothing the media is going to play. Where'd you get it? No, no, no.

Starting point is 00:48:48 This is, what's her name? She does the brunette, dark hair. It's usually a tight shot. She's a brunette with dark hair? Wow. Yeah, it's dark hair. She does a tight shot. She does this kind of stuff all the time.

Starting point is 00:49:01 Oh, somebody help me out, please. Is it a podcaster or is she a what? Well, I think she used to work for The Hill and then she left. Ah, I'll figure it out. The point is it's RFK Jr. telling you what he's going to do. Yeah, I'm just trying to know how this clip, I'm sure he says this all the time.

Starting point is 00:49:23 But this is my point earlier, which is this has never played on the media because heaven forbid someone gets a clue and stop this advertising. Oh no, this is never going to happen. No, it wasn't on television. Oh man. Normally I tag my clips, but it was an embedded video and so that's why and but I recognized her I Will get you that information. So it was not on she has a big show, but it's not I don't care I mean, it's not that important to clip itself is important. Yes Okay, and and so it is actually less powerful if the president does this You know immediately left judges who have federal judges who will be filing complaints and stays but the FDA They are the ones that can tighten regulations. They could make it so difficult who have federal judges who will be filing complaints and stays, but the FDA, they are

Starting point is 00:50:05 the ones that can tighten regulations. They could make it so difficult because they actually just implemented a new rule in, I think, March of this year about the affordability and how you present that information here. What is it? I have it here. And actually, while you're looking that up, I want to mention that there's only two countries in the world that allow this kind of prescription drug advertising. Yes. That's the United States and New Zealand. Nobody else allows it because of its ability to corrupt the system. It corrupts the system. This is from the FDA and this implements as of May 20, 2024, just an example of what the FDA can do, direct

Starting point is 00:50:49 to consumer prescription drug advertisements, presentation of the major statement in a clear, conspicuous and neutral manner in advertisements and television and radio formats. So they are completely telling drug companies how they need to speak in their advertisements. So if you have the president do this, I think you get immediately into First Amendment with the right, you know, the whole bunch of distraction where, and maybe that's why he's saying it, but I think Kennedy himself can direct the FDA to direct the pharmaceutical companies to say stuff like, we don't actually know if it works, but try it anyway. You know, that I think he can make them do that.

Starting point is 00:51:29 I think he should take, they should make them take these ads off. If they even do that, it's not gonna help. Well, I understand what you're saying. I'm just looking at it pragmatically, but this is, as he said, 75% of the budget comes from pharmaceutical advertising. I think that's probably close to it.

Starting point is 00:51:46 And we know that many, CNN in particular has a lot of Pfizer connections. Now we go to the second reason RFK Jr. is the most dangerous man in the universe. Another thing that I can do is I can open up all the databases. Right now all the databases that you can actually check the efficacy and the safety of vaccines, like the Vaccine Safety Database, it's the top, it's all the vaccine records and the medical claims for 10 million Americans from the top 10 HMOs.

Starting point is 00:52:19 Oh, you can look in there and overnight you can say, oh, this vaccine is associated with diabetes. This one's associated with peanut allergies. This one's associated with ASD, neurological ticks, or whatever. That database, CDC keeps it in a lockbox like Fort Knox and makes sure no scientist is allowed in there. Well, I'll open up that database on day one.

Starting point is 00:52:41 Open the database. Neurological ticks. I could be vaccine injured. Yeah, it could be. It did start around seven when all kinds of... When you got some shots. I got some shots. You weren't born with Tourette's.

Starting point is 00:52:57 No, no. It's possible. Yeah. Well, the fact that he dropped that little bombshell in there means that somebody knows something. And then the third reason RFK Jr. is the most dangerous man in the universe. And, you know, I'll also bring all the medical journals, the New England Journal of Medicine, the Lancet, JAMA, into the Justice Department. it, JAMA, into the Justice Department, as soon as I appoint an AG, and I'll say to them, you guys are part of a racketeering syndicate. You're collaborating with these pharmaceutical

Starting point is 00:53:33 industry, lie to the American public about the efficacy and safety of these products, and you're causing enormous harm, and we are going to sue you both civilly for damages, and we're going to sue you criminally, for damages and we're going to sue you criminally unless you come up with a plan right now as to how you're going to stop doing that. So I have a like I have a hundred things that I'm going to do immediately. Okay, that's clip of the day by the way. Thank you. So that you're you are absolutely correct. This guy is going to get shot. Well, that's why I'm glad he's eating burgers with Trump on the plane.

Starting point is 00:54:11 Keep him very close. And you know what? Whenever RFK juniors walk around, just have Elon walk in front of him. That would make me feel better. The first buddy, have the first buddy walk in front of him. I mean, and go Bobby. This is fantastic. And you think the media would be, because you know, traditionally journalists are all for this sort of thing

Starting point is 00:54:37 because it's fun. But no, no, they're pooh-poohing it. This is what he, that last clip in particular, where he's going to go after these bogus journals, They're poo-pooing it. This is what he did. That last clip in particular, where he's going to go after these bogus journals, which we've noticed these things have pulled some stunts recently. They can't do that. No. They have to be called to task. This is ridiculous. Kennedy, yeah, Kennedy's got to get in. Now that more than ever, now should play. Those three clips are fundamental. Television is in the fight for its life right now.

Starting point is 00:55:10 They can figure it out. No, they can't. They're done. How about cutting the budgets on whoopee gober getting $6 million and Joy Behar getting $7 million. And here's the other thing that's funny. Joy Behar, and then you have that other, what's the name of the woman? Who's the Spanish girl who thinks she's black? Uh, Sonny Hauston. Sonny Hauston gets 1.5 million. Joy Behar gets $7 million for doing the same job.

Starting point is 00:55:42 Where is this idea of the job equality? You're supposed to get paid for doing the same job, the same amount. Isn't that one of the big precepts of the whole liberal notion? Did you get paid the same job, same pay? Why come those two aren't getting the same amount of money? What's the deal? Good point. Well, after all, Sonny's forefathers were slave owners, so she needs to get dinged. Rob, our constitutional lawyer, sends me a quick little note. Good summary of the major questions doctrine. When you're ready, I'm hiring you. All right, I have an exit strategy.

Starting point is 00:56:15 I'm going to become a lawyer. He says, it's all about the separation of powers. Congress needs to do its freaking job and quit abdicating. Okay, we'll get a deeper analysis than that. That is his off the cuff quick analysis. Oh, he's listening in the chat room. Oh, no, this is DM baby. I have a hotline, you kidding me?

Starting point is 00:56:34 He's got to be listening somewhere. He is. In the stream. Yeah, but he DMs me live. Oh yeah, well, he's not gonna do it in the troll room because obviously what's gonna happen there is he's gonna get lost in the shuffle. He's above the trolls.

Starting point is 00:56:50 We haven't checked in with NPR. We need to hear what our national treasurer thinks of all this. Donald Trump is also nominating Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to head the Department of Health and Human Services. If confirmed by the Senate, Kennedy would oversee nearly $2 trillion in mandatory spending and agencies such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration. NPR's Stephen Fowler says Kennedy is a vaccine skeptic who's promoted conspiracy theories about healthcare.

Starting point is 00:57:20 If he's confirmed by the Senate, the role gives Kennedy the chance to actualize a vision that's often at odds with mainstream health and science, likely through a combination of scaling back existing programs and refocusing others to align with his quote, make America healthy again goals. He told NPR that the government isn't going to take away vaccines from anybody, but said the science on vaccine safety has huge deficits. Vaccine experts disagree with that assessment. Just disagree.

Starting point is 00:57:51 Final clip for me on RFK Jr. and then I think we need to move on to your next series of clips. To our next schmears. Now let's go straight to the source, Anderson Cooper 360. He would never, and he just did, as in Donald Trump would never put Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a vaccine skeptic and COVID conspiracy theorist in charge of the Department of Health and Human Services. He would never.

Starting point is 00:58:16 Well, he just did. He just picked RFK Jr. not for the advisory role that some had expected, but for the full Monty to run a department overseeing the National Institutes of Health, the Centers for Disease Control, the FDA, Medicare, all of it, and more. Kennedy is well known for backing the long debunked claim that childhood vaccines cause autism. He has also promoted COVID conspiracy theories. In fact, COVID-19, there's an argument that it is ethnically targeted.

Starting point is 00:58:49 It's interesting that they're digging so deep, they're digging for the clip that we gave up on because we couldn't make it audible enough. In fact, COVID-19, there's an argument that it is ethnically targeted. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately. COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people. The people who are most immune are Askenazi Jews and Chinese. So Kennedy subsequently denied he had ever suggested that the COVID virus was, quote, targeted to spare Jews.

Starting point is 00:59:25 Instead, Kennedy claimed he had meant to say the United States and other governments were developing, quote, ethically targeted bio weapons, which is another conspiracy theory. He is also known for encounters with wildlife, whether it is chainsawing the head off a dead whale 30 years ago and strapping it onto the family car, or a decade ago picking up a bear cub carcass intended to take it home to eat, but then dumping it in New York Central Park instead when his day ran long. No, no, this guy's a kook. Get him out.

Starting point is 00:59:52 He's a kook. I tell you, he's a kook. I am so happy about this. This is going to become a huge battle in the Senate. You're going to see, you're going to see the senators that have been sold, that have sold out the big pharma and the vaccine, you know, non-liable liability group.

Starting point is 01:00:17 Yeah. You're going to see the corrupt senators. They're going to all show their faces and they're going to all be, this is going to be interesting because there's lots of them. I think you have to- And your point, and I'm sorry to interrupt, your point is so well made and we'd have to keep hammering on it. If it's so good, these vaccines, then you don't need immunity. That's it. That's it. I mean, you want to advertise, then accept your-

Starting point is 01:00:44 Product liability. product liability. There you go. That's the way to play it. It's so good. And also it sets them right in the crosshairs by saying, you want to inject this into our kids, some of them even the day they're born, I think even, or maybe within a week, if it's so good, then you should accept product liability. Otherwise you shouldn't be advertising on television. That's it. It's that simple. And I was talking to, um,

Starting point is 01:01:14 I don't think it even has to do with advertising. You should be able to accept product liability for any product that sold to the public. I was talking to my buddy, the ER doctor, and he says, I was talking to my buddy, the ER doctor, and he says, he believes that when RFK Jr. is done, and he's big on RFK Jr. When RFK Jr. is done, he believes that there will be many pediatricians who will commit suicide when they learn that they have severely hurt hundreds, if not thousands, of their young patients just because they didn't question the science, they just believed what was being told. Because they're not all evil.

Starting point is 01:01:53 Also, it makes up 40% of the revenue of most pediatricians. So the whole practice will be upended. whole practice will be upended. But he said, I know so many doctors, even in his own family, he said, if they find out that these vaccines were really hurting their patients, they need to be put on suicide watch. They will feel so horrible about this.

Starting point is 01:02:24 So let's just give these doctors a little bit of the benefit because what do they know? This is what you're taught. Shut up, diagnose, prescribe. It's on the schedule. Do what you're supposed to do. Government knows best. So there's a lot of changes coming.

Starting point is 01:02:40 I hope. We'll see. We can keep them alive. I am not convinced that any changes are coming personally. I know, but you're just Miss Daisy Optimism. So that's... I am. Let's Shmear Tulsi. Well, the next one to come along, I mean, we could go through these all different people. I mean, there's Heg Seth, there's a bunch of these, but

Starting point is 01:03:02 Tulsi is interesting. Yeah, Tulsi is interesting. Tulsi is a good one because they really want to get her. She, just the stuff that they come in. This is Caitlin Collins again, the lipless Caitlin Collins. She has no lips. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I do. Got kind of a slit for a mouth. She has no lips. You know what this is? Yeah, I do. Got kind of a slit for a mouth.

Starting point is 01:03:27 We need another, the lipless wonder, the lipless, we need something with an L. The lipless loudmouth. We've got to work on it. We'll work on it. She's terrible. Yeah, she is. But this is the Tulsi CNN, Kaitlin Collins. Donald Trump's pick to oversee 18 different agencies once introduced legislation to keep the CIA from operating in Syria said she would have dropped the charges against both Julian

Starting point is 01:03:51 Assange, who published Military Secrets, and Edward Snowden, the former CIA contractor who leads… Did you notice that what she just said there? He published Military Secrets. Oh, you mean like Pentagon papers? I mean, she just glosses over that. That's exactly what he did. It's called journalism?

Starting point is 01:04:08 And Edward Snowden, the former CIA contractor who leaked intelligence in 2013. Tulsi Gabbard has supported a conspiracy theory that the US was helping Ukraine develop biological weapons. Russian state TV recently referred to her as, quote, our girlfriend. But Gabbard and Trump have not always seen eye to eye, I should note. In 2017, when she met with the Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, while Trump was ordering airstrikes on Syrian targets, she also disagreed when Trump did an act in response to the murder of the Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Oh, didn't read, didn't respond. No good.

Starting point is 01:04:49 All those things sound good to me. I mean, she, you know, Snowden was a whistleblower basically for, you know, they're spying on us. None of this stuff is good, but she's defending all the bad stuff. But, but then we go to clip two here and this is just the beginning. It's only an eight second, but it introduces an ask Adam. Oh, hold on. Here we go. Answer the question. Go. All right.

Starting point is 01:05:09 Clip first. Yeah. Clip two. She also once accused Trump of being quote Saudi Arabia's bitch. My inside source was Trump's longest serving national security. Who said that? Hold on. I want to hear that clip again.

Starting point is 01:05:25 She also once accused Trump of being quote Saudi Arabia's bitch. My inside source was Trump's longest serving national security. Longest serving national security advisor. The question is who was that? Yeah. Who's she going to bring on the show is the point. Who is she? Brandon. To back up all these claims of hers and the fact that Tulsi is a horrible person, who's she gonna bring on?

Starting point is 01:05:49 The Fart Sniffer. What's his name? The Mustache Man. Boom. What's his name? Fart Sniffer. Bolton. Just so we understand, there was a story that we've discussed that he would go to some club in New York where they would sniff each other's farts. Am I recalling this incorrectly? I don't remember that particularly thing, but he looks like the type. I think that's the discussion we had. He looks like the type, yes. All right, fart sniffer on deck. My inside source was Trump's longest-serving national security advisor. Ambassador John Bolton

Starting point is 01:06:24 is here. And obviously, Ambassador, I don't think it's surprising that Trump picked someone who he once disagreed with or has criticized him to put in his cabinet. We've seen that with his own vice president. But on the director of national intelligence position specifically, when you were there, what was Trump's relationship like with his last DNI? Well, the DNI who was there when I was there was Dan Codes. And as with Dan and CIA Director Gina Haspel, he was in constant confrontation with him. He didn't trust the intelligence community.

Starting point is 01:06:57 He thought it was conspiring against him. And he tried to suppress things that he didn't like. You know, that's typical Donald Trump. And I think the nomination of Tulsi Gabbard shows that this is his effort to interfere in the work of the intelligence community, specifically where it affects him. This is not about some broad conspiracy to politicize intelligence. This is about a protection racket for Donald Trump. Wow. Wow. Geez.

Starting point is 01:07:32 This guy. This guy is amazing. He's amazing. He's the worst, I think that, I mean, of course, Trump has talked into hiring him, and it was just the biggest mistake. Let's go to clip four. A protection racket for Donald Trump. How so? Well I think he expects Tulsi Gabbard when she has to testify in congress to look out for his interest.

Starting point is 01:07:55 I think that he demonstrated that at the end of his term in releasing classified information that he felt supported his case on various allegations that had been made against him. I think Tulsi Gabbard is utterly unqualified to have any connection with the intelligence community whatsoever. Did you hear the laugh-tell? Oh yeah, I heard it. I heard it.

Starting point is 01:08:19 ...had been made against him. I think Tulsi Gabbard is utterly unqualified to have any connection with the intelligence community whatsoever. And the views that she's expressed, including, for example, saying of Donald Trump himself that he committed an illegal and unconstitutional act of war when he ordered the elimination of Qasem Soleimani, her views are not extreme, they're bizarre. And to put somebody like that in possession, ultimately of any secret the United States has that she wants to know about is comfort to our adversaries and should be alarming

Starting point is 01:08:58 to Americans. And when you talk about her testifying, the Director of National Intelligence and other top officials testify at these annual worldwide threat assessment hearings on Capitol Hill. I remember when Dan Coats was testifying and he was talking about Russia's attempts to spy to interfere in US elections. Someone called me and said you could hear Trump screaming from the West Wing because he was so angry about what Dan Coase was testifying about. I mean, how dramatically reshaped do you think the intelligence community looks

Starting point is 01:09:30 under a Trump administration if Tulsi Gabbard is confirmed here? Do you think that anyone except us really cares about watching what they're doing here? If you just flipping channels and you see that mustache Are you gonna stop like oh hold on a second? I gotta watch this. No, it just does okay. Just want to make sure it's just us Yeah onward this is the kicker you want to set it up It doesn't say kicker on here, so it's not much of a kicker. Oh, okay. Well, here we go.

Starting point is 01:10:08 If we're being intellectually honest, there's really no good… I'm sorry. I'm looking at the wrong one. You did that on purpose. No, I did not do that on purpose. No, I'm sorry. You're right. No kicker.

Starting point is 01:10:20 Well, I think it'll be a point of open warfare. It's one of the areas like the Defense Department, like the Justice Department in particular, where Trump has the biggest axe to grind. And it's reason among, for all the criticism, all these Trump appointments that are coming, you know, people in the Senate are only going to have a limited number of opportunities. And while I know some would say, oppose every one of them you need to pick your targets here because because the political

Starting point is 01:10:50 pressure to to confirm trumps appointees is is going to be very intense and i do think uh... presidents are entitled to deference i think the confirmation process of gotten out of hand deference doesn't mean obeisance, and in the cases of Gabbard and Gates in particular, they are well outside any conceivable norms for competence and character. So I think the priority ought to be safeguard our national secrets by rejecting Tulsi Gabbard and protect the rule of law by rejecting Matt Gates. If you can achieve those two things and people want to go after other targets, be my guest.

Starting point is 01:11:29 Oh, goodness. Who's he taking money from? Who pays that guy? That's a good question. He's got to be in some think tank somewhere making some dough on something. It's got to be. Well, he did that book, but that book didn't sell. He's not making royalty.

Starting point is 01:11:46 Doesn't mean they didn't. Yeah, they could have given a big upfront. That's possible. I'm saying, right. Yeah, something like that. I have one Tulsi Smear clip. I think this is the money shot. I think it's the one that matters because who did MSNBC bring on?

Starting point is 01:12:04 He's a contributor. He's involved in the intelligence communite. Ask John. Brennan. Brennan. Well, Nicole, I think you and Tom Nichols have done a great job just underscoring all the concerns that people have about this appointment.

Starting point is 01:12:19 Clearly Tulsi Gabbard has taken actions and made statements over the past several years that really raised serious questions about her common sense, her judgment, as well as her political sympathies. Posing up to Putin as well as to maybe with Bashar Assad, I think really does show that she doesn't have the type of perspective that is needed for somebody who's going to head up these 18 intelligence agencies. And as Tom Nichols said, she doesn't have any qualifications. The director of national intelligence, that's a really serious position and a very complex

Starting point is 01:12:53 and complicated one that requires somebody who actually has an understanding of the intelligence community. It's like an orchestra conductor of all the different agencies and departments that are involved in the intelligence process. And I don't think she understands even the instruments that are involved in the intelligence process. And I don't think she understands even the instruments that are involved in this orchestra. No! Orchestra! Orchestra!

Starting point is 01:13:12 Nor has she had any experience at the strategic level of running and leading a large complex organization. And the director of national intelligence is, according to legislation, the president's principal intelligence advisor, the person who is responsible for making sure that the president's daily brief is put together in a very sound and forthright manner, the person who puts together the budget and the priorities of the intelligence community. So I know that this appointment is sending shockwaves here in the United States, but also around the globe in terms of is this really somebody who Donald Trump is going to entrust with the care and the leadership

Starting point is 01:13:46 of the intelligence community? An unserious pick for a serious position. Unserious pick for a serious position, he says, and he can know because he's Brennan, the Muslim. Brennan. Kim Iverson. It just hit me. Kim Iverson show.

Starting point is 01:14:04 That's where I got the Kennedy clips. You know Kim Iverson. No, hit me. Kim Iverson show. That's where I got the Kennedy clips. You know Kim Iverson. I don't think I do. You've seen her. You've seen her. I probably have. Kim Iverson. There was one other appointment that led to a hilarious clip.

Starting point is 01:14:19 This is the Department of Energy. Chris Wright, he is replacing, and we will miss her. We'll miss the big ears. We'll miss the plates on the side of the head of Granholm. You're talking about somebody, the old Department of Energy woman. They keep going on and on about no experience. I mean, come on, that entire Biden cabinet is no experience. It's almost earmarked by it.

Starting point is 01:14:44 In fact, I'm going to play a clip. Nobody said anything about that. I'll play a clip of Granholm first, because she was over there in COP29, and this was really good. So she did a speech, she did question and answer session's so the whole thing is so orchestrated that she even she couldn't even figure oh who am i who's supposed to ask the next question let me check my just like biden uh okay the question not random questions the questions that have been rehearsed beforehand let me make sure i have the correct answer to the question that is coming now. Yes, your turn, go. Last question. Two. Sorry, I am not sure who that's two. Two or from? Nazrin Babayeva?

Starting point is 01:15:35 What is the core message of United States delivering in COP29 regarding its role in advancing global energy and energy transition and combating climate change. So our message is that regardless of who is actually occupying the White House, this transition is happening. It is happening in the United States at the subnational level and with the private sector and with NGOs. It is happening globally with countries that you all represent who are not turning back.

Starting point is 01:16:09 The absence of leadership in the White House does not mean that this energy transition is stopped. In fact, I would say to countries who might see the U.S. stepping back from climate policy as a reason to step back themselves, I would say to the contrary, this is the time to accelerate, to fill that gap that may be left by leadership in the United States. But truly, this transition is happening and there's no turning back. Thanks, everybody.

Starting point is 01:16:41 It's happening. There's no turning back. Well, maybe you're wrong because this Chris Wright is totally a fossil fuel, fossil fool guy. President-elect Donald Trump continues to fill positions in his second administration, announcing Chris Wright as his nominee to lead the Department of Energy. Wright, the chief executive of Liberty Energy, the world's second largest fracking services company, is one of the most outspoken critics

Starting point is 01:17:09 of efforts to combat climate change. Posting this video on LinkedIn last year. There is no climate crisis and we're not in the midst of an energy transition either. But 99% of climate scientists agree. What? What happened in 97? What happened in 97? They went to 99 all of climate scientists agree what? What happened in what happened in? 97 they went to 99 all of a sudden no no either but 99% of climate scientists agree

Starting point is 01:17:34 Humans are causing global warming and climate change the Department of Energy's own website states a clean energy revolution Taking place across America underscored by the steady expansion of the U.S. renewable energy sector. It's on the website. That means it must be happening. It's on the website, people. It's on the website, but heaven forbid you go to Google to do your research. No, no, no.

Starting point is 01:17:58 So, I'd like to wind this up with a couple of... Well, before you leave this topic, I have to throw a couple... We have also another person that needs to be announced because we made a mistake. When we tried to guess the press secretary. Yeah, we did. I thought Alina Haber had it in the bag. I thought so too. I was not arguing with you, but it turned out I do have the press secretary clip. But before we go to that, I want to talk about this, this guy, this fracking guy and Burgum who became department of the, of the interior guy.

Starting point is 01:18:30 They're going to pick him. No, he's going to push. What does the, uh, secretary of the interior do? What are they? Well, he takes care of land management basically. And so he pushes farmers around and, and he will do that, but he will also open up the, and he's from, coincidentally, North Dakota, which many people believe has got the largest, world's largest supply of God knows what kind of oil reserves underneath the ground and in every way, shape and form.

Starting point is 01:19:02 So North Dakota is going to be go back to where it was headed during the first Trump administration as being a huge supplier of worldwide oil products. Oil Baron Paul, you better go buy some land over there in North Dakota. I would like to just ask our people in general that there are producers, what would be the stock tips? Does it carry over another show? Yeah. But what kind of, what companies,

Starting point is 01:19:30 what are we dealing with here with North Dakota? Cause it became kind of pushed to the background when Biden got in and while it was on its ascendancy, and I would like to get some inside stuff from people from North Dakota. We have listeners and producers. The oil baron, the oil baron will tell us. What the hell is going to be hot in North Dakota?

Starting point is 01:19:53 The answer is Bitcoin. That's going to be hot, but we'll get an answer for you. It's not very specific to North Dakota. So let's play this press secretary clip. Yeah. All right. And so's play this press secretary clip. Yeah. All right. And so we get to who this is. Now this woman who really likes to dish it out, I like her.

Starting point is 01:20:11 She's got a kind of a perky blonde who just likes to get into arguments and she's always got a smile on her face when she's pushing herself in someone's face. Here we go. Trump also named his pick for White House press secretary. Caroline Levitt served as Trump's campaign press secretary and is currently a spokesperson for his transition. At 27 years old, she's slated to become the youngest White House press secretary in history. In a statement, Trump said Levitt did a phenomenal job during his campaign, describing her as

Starting point is 01:20:46 smart, tough, and a highly effective communicator. Levitt responded with a post on X, saying she is humbled and honored. In 2022, she ran for Congress in New Hampshire, winning a 10-way Republican primary. She then lost incumbent Democratic Congressman Chris Pappas. The White House press secretary typically serves as the public face of the administration and historically has held daily briefings for the press corps. Wow, 27. I just look at my daughters, my stepdaughters like, no.

Starting point is 01:21:20 She's already run for Congress. She's an ambitious woman, but she is really, she was on CNN. There's clips of her just going at it with somebody. She's got to be made of it. She doesn't put up with any guffs, but she keeps a smile on her face. She's not like Saki who's always grimacing. Do you think that they will continue with the unnecessary practice of doing a daily briefing? I have no idea.

Starting point is 01:21:45 I hope not. Well, I hope not either because it's dumb. Yeah, it's annoying. Wow. All right. For a 27-year-old, that's quite the gig, man. That's going to be... She better be eating nails for breakfast. Yeah. I think she's got the...

Starting point is 01:22:03 I think she has the chops for it. I hope so. From what I've seen. I hope so. I hope so. All right, now you had another one you wanted to play? I have another. What is the other one? This is the overall, this is the, I have two more clips.

Starting point is 01:22:13 This is Trump new cabinet folk, which is a short clip. President-elect Donald Trump has named oil executive Chris Wright as his secretary of energy. Wright is the CEO of oil field service company, Liberty Energy. He's also a Trump campaign donor. The president-elect says Wright has worked closely with North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum for years. Burgum is seen as pro-business and was also chosen as the next secretary of the interior

Starting point is 01:22:43 and the head of a new national energy council. Trump said Bergam and Wright would work together to drive U.S. energy dominance, partly through deregulation. Outside the energy sector, President-elect Trump also named one of his attorneys, Will Scharf, as White House staff secretary. Trump still has a dozen or so cabinet or cabinet-level positions to fill. These include leaders of the Treasury, Commerce and Labor Departments. Did I hear that Gensler is resigning? Did you hear that? Yeah, I did. So I guess that's true then.

Starting point is 01:23:16 Instead of getting pushed out, he's going to resign. It's probably smart. Then I have this Lutnick pick, which is just a minor clip. Now, Elon Musk and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. appear to be throwing their support behind investor Howard Lutnick as a possible next Treasury Secretary. Trump has not announced his nominee for the role, but Lutnick and investor Scott Besant are serious contenders for the job. Out of the two choices, Musk criticized Besant as a business as usual choice. And Kennedy praised Howard Lutnick as a strong advocate for the cryptocurrency Bitcoin.

Starting point is 01:23:55 Lutnick is the CEO of financial services firm Cantor Fitzgerald. And Lutnick has been helping Trump with his transition efforts. He has praised the president-elect's economic policies, including his use of tariffs. Whether Trump's decision could be influenced by the comments from Musk and Kennedy remains unclear. Yeah, Kent, this guy, I know this guy, not personally, but he announced a huge Bitcoin financial services arm of Kent to Frgerald, the same conference that Trump and Kennedy talked about the Bitcoin strategic reserve.

Starting point is 01:24:29 Interesting. Hmm. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. I think it's a long shot personally. Well, before I continue with these three final clips that I have about the cabinet. You know, I keep reading about Trump doing these recess appointments. I remember Obama tried to do this with, I think, four positions. I think Obama did it.

Starting point is 01:24:57 What was the review? The Labor Review Board, I think, or it was some odd positions. There's a couple of screwball ones. I think Van Jones somehow got in. Everybody got their panties in a bunch over it, the Republicans. So now it's just going to be OK. I mean, the Constitution says the appointees are supposed to be accompanied by the advice and consent of the Senate. Right.

Starting point is 01:25:24 So now using recess appointments, which is another little trick, I don't know if it's a good idea if Trump, I mean, it's gonna be a circus. Maybe it's like, let's just have Gates be the circus and try and move other people in slowly and quietly. I mean, RFK Jr. is the most important one. We know that Gates is expendable.

Starting point is 01:25:49 I think that Bolton actually made a point in his hatred of Gabbard and Gates. I think he made a good point, which is you're not going to be able to fight all of these, so you're going to have to pick and choose your battles if you're going to stop a couple of them. I think the Kennedy is going to be the choice is the one because of the corruption of the pharmaceutical industry in Congress. I think that's the one. Whatever Bolton thinks about Gabbard, I don't think that's going to be that big of a deal compared to Kennedy. And so Kennedy is the one day I think they have to slip through. I mean, everyone, unless the pressure from the public is increased, but there's this,

Starting point is 01:26:30 you know, half the, or half, all the Democrats think they don't want him, even though he was a former Democrat and he was going to be, you know, an EPA guy from the Obama administration, he was happy back then. Well, you know- But this pharma thing is really a problem. It would even be okay. Just take this into consideration. Uh, RFK going through the through the, uh, the, uh, the process in the Senate

Starting point is 01:26:59 would really be an opportunity to uncover it and for him to really speak out, this is the problem, the voice is tough, but he can, he can start to say, Hey, look, this is what's going on. This is why I'm coming in. And he might even say, by the way, how about you with your $2 million donation from Pfizer? Hey, you're asking me these questions. How about you with your 500,000? Oh yes. I think you might be right. Kennedy would probably relish. Yes, relish doing that. Right.

Starting point is 01:27:28 Whether he gets in or not, because he can just throw it back at him. And Gates is just expendable. Who knows about that guy? He's probably getting railroaded. But anyway, this is the type of analysis you get on your No Agenda show. We just keep calm.

Starting point is 01:27:47 We're not all jacked up and jitty and all mad and boo boo boo boo. However, if you go to our national treasure, NPR, this is the type of quality news and reporting you get. Trump has been returning to the well over at Fox repeatedly to fill out his administration. NPR media correspondent David Falkenfleck has been tracking the relationship between Trump and Fox for years. He joins us now. Hey there.

Starting point is 01:28:15 Hey, Juana. Hey there. Let me start by asking you this. What does Trump's fascination with the stars over at Fox tell us about him and his administration? Well, I think it's worth remembering that the developer Donald Trump came to national front of mind really as a reality TV star. He sees this as casting and the nominees as talent. And I think we got to remember that the key facet of their talent is they're willing to

Starting point is 01:28:39 put loyalty paramount. You look at Pete Hegseth, he sure looks the part, decorated infantry officer, but not relevant job experience overseeing enormous institutions or high levels of the military. You know, his relevant experience is on Fox. That's where Trump knows his opinions from earlier. He had been something of a critic of Trump. Now he's really clearly a MAGA loyalist and it's loyalty to Trump, the key thing. You think back to the first term, Trump hired a number of folks from Fox, but he also said, hey, I'm going to hire the best generals. He liked the way they looked in uniform, talked about it. Turned out many of them had their own ideas once they were in positions of power and pushed back.

Starting point is 01:29:12 So NPR, our national treasure is so vapid, so shallow that all they can come up with is, well, he just like show business people. It's like that's how he operates. David, it's been a big week for personnel announcements. I'm hoping you can just remind us, who are some of the Fox News personalities that President-elect Trump has chosen? Sure, so there's Heg Seth at defense. You've got Tulsi Gabbard,

Starting point is 01:29:36 his pick to be a director of national intelligence. She was a former Democratic congresswoman, but became a paid Fox commentator. Tom Homan, the pick to lead Homeland Security, a paid Fox commentator. home in that picked a lead homeland security a paid fox commentator mike huckabee uh... designated to be the ambassador to israel he had his own show on fox for a while after uh... coming up short in his twenty twelve uh... race for the white house

Starting point is 01:29:57 uh... and they're also a bunch of guests who became familiar faces for fox viewers fox has been something of an audition stage if you think of it mackey to, he's been for sure an acerbic and formidable presence at the far right at the Republican conference, the House of Representatives, but he's also been a real cable warrior, a constant president on Fox. RFK Jr., like Gabbard, a Democrat, but really became incredibly prominent for potential Republican voters and a voice that Fox turned to again and again, not as a paid contributor, but as a critic of the Biden-Harris administration from the

Starting point is 01:30:36 left. RFK, of course, has now been selected to be Trump's secretary of Health and Human Services. Oh, wow. It's, he just only- What a stretch. Oh, but wait, it's really, it's about Rupert Murdoch. Right. Last thing, David.

Starting point is 01:30:52 What should be the big takeaway for us here? What should we conclude about the influence of Fox News on the incoming Trump administration? Right. Well, the past is prologue, right? So if you look at the first term, yes, there were some folks there loaded with Fox talent, but Trump also drew so much on Fox stars as advisors. Sean Hannity, prime time star, Maria Bartiromo had something like 17 hours on Fox. Tucker Carlson, back when he was with Fox, and the controlling owner of Fox, Rupert Murdoch,

Starting point is 01:31:19 struck an alliance with Trump for that first term and he's doing it once more. So you see these figures stocked with loyal Trump folks, just as he knows at the top there's real loyalty and people know not only that if you want to go down to Mar-a-Lago if you want to get Trumps here, but you also have to go on Fox. Oh brother. He forgot Gutfeld. Why didn't he? He should have brought Gutfeld in.

Starting point is 01:31:40 That would have been great. So while that takes place on NPR, I think that we should now, I think that we should now move on to the next segment of the show. So we're going to talk about the next segment of the show. So we're going to talk about the next segment of the show. So we're going to talk about the next segment of the show. So we're going to talk about the next segment of the show. So we're going to talk about the next would have been great. So while that takes place on NPR, I think that we should now at least play a clip of the extremely insignificant and I think I should look at the ratings but just considering how MSNBC is doing. Rachel Maddow, I mean you almost want to go up to her and say, you know, if we're intellectually honest, Rachel, you wouldn't say any of this.

Starting point is 01:32:12 I think that the idea of the authoritarian promise is that everything shrivels in government other than the will of the leader. Right? So you don't necessarily put a Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in charge of HHS because you're hoping for great things from HHS. I mean, Matt Gaetz, among all the other things we can say about Matt Gaetz, he has explicitly proposed abolishing the Justice Department. Not specifically just abolishing the FBI and the ATF, but talking about abolishing the Justice Department. I mean, Tulsi Gabbard, as the Director of National Intelligence, is, I mean, the idea that Tulsi Gabbard, in

Starting point is 01:32:58 a normal circumstance, could get a security clearance to be a like a Walmart style greeter at any US intelligence agency let alone get past the security barriers is insane. So you do that because you want the worst for these agencies because you want the worst for the US government because you think that the US government is worthless. That's part of consolidating power to make the US government nothing other than the leader and people who will do what he says. And there are not being any repository of expertise, let alone just general day-to-day know-how anywhere. So it's a sort of, I mean, as Steve Bannon used to say, it's a sort of Leninist project, right? Destroy the state. This is the cabinet that you nominate to not to run the U S government to do

Starting point is 01:33:50 anything, but to destroy the U S government. Um, so that the U S government can be fundamentally re-imagined as something much more like a unitary, um, authoritarian, or autocratic for lack of a better term. There's your intellectual dishonesty. What does she do? How does she come up with this? Is that all you got? That's pretty bad. I mean, if she wants to keep rating, she should at least be talking about Matt Gaetz being a pedophile or something like that. I mean, this is not a ratings grabber.

Starting point is 01:34:22 No one cares about your opinion in that regard Rachel Baffling I think she's off the rails. Yeah, it's baffling now. I Actually do have a clip in a half kind of So we haven't really seen any celebrities leave America except I believe What's the... The evil on Goria. Evil on Goria, right. Because, you know, she has a house.

Starting point is 01:34:49 But it turns out, as somebody pointed out, I don't have the clip, but somebody pointed out at the end of one of these things that she's already left the country. She left the country during COVID and she lives in Spain and Mexico full time. That's what you do? So she's not leaving the country because of Trump. She's already left the country because of COVID and she's a phony. So the next best thing you can do is rage quit Twitter. And this is a good one. This is a great virtue signal.

Starting point is 01:35:19 And there are people I like, and I know who are very open about their disdain for Trump and conservatives and they don't even live in America, which is fine. And they're like, well, I'm not going to be on X anymore. Well, I'll still post there just to make sure I get my links out, but I'm not going to engage in anything. And if you're like Bette Midler, you just delete everything. This is you, isn't it? No.

Starting point is 01:35:48 No. I use everything as an inbox. I don't engage in anything. I got no time for that nonsense. But when you are a journalistic outfit, I think it's very short-sighted to say, we're leaving, we're quitting Twitter. You're talking about The Guardian, right?

Starting point is 01:36:06 Social media platform X has seen record traffic since the election, but it's also seen some high profile deactivations in a statement against the politics of owner Elon Musk. The Guardian, a left leaning British newspaper, is no longer posting on X saying the social media platform is quote toxic and home to far-right conspiracies and racism. It's X profile with nearly 11 million followers states the account has been archived. In its announcement the Guardian says we think that the benefits of being on X are now outweighed by the negatives and that resources could be better used promoting our journalism elsewhere among other high-profile post-election exits.

Starting point is 01:36:50 What? What horrible extension of resources can be better used? Resources to make a tweet? What does that take five minutes? by some intern Posting a story with a link our resources are better used elsewhere We think that the benefits of being on X are now outweighed by the negatives and that resources could be better used Promoting our journalism elsewhere among other high- high profile post-election exits, actress Jamie Lee Curtis posted to Instagram a screenshot of her ex account being deactivated.

Starting point is 01:37:32 With the caption, God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. And Jay Rosen is also capturing attention over his departure. An NYU professor with more than 300,000 followers on X. In his sign off from posting on the app,

Starting point is 01:37:52 he told users to find him on Blue Sky instead. Blue Sky! I had to log into my Blue Sky account. I hadn't been on it in a long time. I still don't have an account. I guess I should so I can follow. Because I don't want to miss any of these great thoughts of Jay Rosen. You don't want to get on Blue Sky.

Starting point is 01:38:12 Not only does it look exactly like X or Twitter. You said it was anti-Semitic, didn't you? What was the problem with it? No, it's Tranny Central is what I said. Oh Tranny. Well, that's what, yeah, Jay Rosen goes there for that reason, I guess. Here, blue sky. I mean, if you just go into blue sky. It is. That's how it started. And now, I mean, everything it's like MSNBC people, CNN people.

Starting point is 01:38:39 My timeline is filled with Kara Swisher moaning about Elon. I mean, it's just, it's a leftist cry ground. Everyone's just crying about, oh, it's all so horrible, it's no good, Trump no good. Now you want to get an account. But it's, no, you don't want an account. So, but it kind of ruins both. It ruins what certainly algoized social networks are all about is,

Starting point is 01:39:15 you know, if you just hear people agreeing with you the whole time, who cares? You want to have some getting in there and getting mad at you, because that's how you keep eyeballs on your system. So it's going to be Trump and the right on X and it's going to be everybody else on blue sky and I think 2 million new accounts have been created. I don't know if 2 million left X but and this- Well, the thing is if you're the guardian with 11 million followers, So the thing is, if you have, you're the guardian with 11 million followers, why would you give up that platform? This is the stupidity of some of these news organizations.

Starting point is 01:39:51 Oh, we've got 11 million over here. Let me just bail out of that. Cause I got nothing, but you know, then they're always begging for money for some reason. It's nuts. We have not one, but two tip of the days coming up later on in the show. I brought my big, I've got a big tip. When I bring a tip, it's a big tip. We must talk a little bit about AI and certainly about what's going on with our friend the Seedman. But first, I'd like to... I have the clips for the seed man. I know you do.

Starting point is 01:40:27 That's... I'm teasing your clips, but you know, don't spike the ball, man. It's like, just let everybody know that it's coming up. It's a tease. I decided it was good to do a tease. You know why? Because... No, I don't know why because this is new. It is new.

Starting point is 01:40:40 It's because whenever I asked Tina, did you listen to the show? She said, yeah, listen up to the donation segment. Then you miss all the FEMA stuff. Oh, you want it to... Oh, because of people like Tina who don't like listening to the donators. No, I don't think it's that. It's just, you know, she doesn't...

Starting point is 01:40:55 That's exactly it. No. Yeah. You're trying to make her come back to the show after the donation. By the way, today she's got no problem. We got less than 30 people after the newsletter went out donating to the show after the donate. By the way, today she's got no problem. We got less than 30 people after the newsletter went out, donated to the show, less than 30.

Starting point is 01:41:11 So it was the, it was the biggest fail of the newsletter I've done probably for a year. So you're blaming it on the newsletter? Oh yeah. I think, I think, maybe. Yeah, good idea. You and your newsletter. The newsletter was no good.

Starting point is 01:41:29 We got no doctors. Nobody did anything. It was just like, either they didn't get it, but the numbers, the open numbers looked normal. So I don't, I don't know. I don't know what happened. Yeah, we have, we have Seedman. I think it was that damn boxing match.

Starting point is 01:41:43 Seedman information. We got was that damn boxing match. Seedman information. We got some updates on a couple of wars, things that are going on. I think it's well worth hanging around for. But first I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in COVID speak. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. Doran. Good morning to you, Mr. Ann Curry. In the morning all the ships and sea boosts on the ground, feeding the air, subs in the DOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEE E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E I'm trying to get a troll count here. Hold on a second. Let me get it. Oh, something's wrong. What's going on? Did my keyboard fail?

Starting point is 01:42:26 Well, that's interesting. Trying to get a troll count. And that's very interesting. Batteries. No, it's interesting you say that. I just put new batteries in. And for some reason now, it's a, I can see it wants to work. You put one battery in backwards.

Starting point is 01:42:46 No, I did not. It's been working fine. I have it here 24. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I don't know what's going on. I'll have to refresh.

Starting point is 01:42:56 I got to refresh my troll room. I think it's a troll room refresh is an order. I'm going to refresh. Oh, I got logged out of the troll room. There you go. Okay. Let me see if I can log back in. I can get you get logged out of the troll room. It can happen. Incorrect password. Oh boy.

Starting point is 01:43:21 Oh, you can't get in now. No, this, this is not going well. I've been, you've been, I've been hacked. Oh yeah. That, you can't get in now. No, this is not going well. You've been hacked. I've been hacked. Oh yeah, that'll be it. You've been hacked. However, I can tell you we have 2,492 trolls in the room at the peak and actually 2,491 because I just got kicked out.

Starting point is 01:43:40 That's pretty average. So that doesn't explain the low donation numbers. It's pretty average. So that doesn't explain the low donation numbers. Well, it's above average. No, it's not. $2400 for Sunday is average. No, you... Okay. I don't understand.

Starting point is 01:43:55 I just don't understand the numbers. You give me $1800 and $2200. These are the numbers you give me. No, no, no. I've never said $2200. It's always $2400. Okay. So we're above average. It's not average It's above that it can't be 24 zero zero zero zero point zero zero. I mean, come on if it doesn't hit 25

Starting point is 01:44:13 It's average Okay, let me see now let me back in I'm back in let me check if it works yeah, very interesting, okay Well get the number now. 22. 22-4-9-2. It's the peak. Now it's 22-09 because of that. Because I got logged out. These trolls are in the troll room. You can join them at trollroom.io. We love having our live studio audience. Although no, no one came up with Kim Iverson. No one even does any work anymore.

Starting point is 01:44:44 They just sit there and go. They used to work for you. They used to do work. They used to actually help you. No, none of that. All we get is... Help the show. No, now they just...

Starting point is 01:44:53 No, they're just like rap sucks. That's literally what I'm getting here. Oh, someone... Okay. Oh, someone actually did say it. All right. Well, I missed it. You've got to say it over and over again. All right, well, I missed it.

Starting point is 01:45:05 You've got to say it over and over again. You've got to- That's true. I've seen this where you had to go bang, bang, bang, bang, over and over like a whole page full. Yeah, that helps. That really does help. You know, with some ASCII art and everything.

Starting point is 01:45:17 We love it anyway. I mean, I get the biggest kick out of the trolls. It makes me feel alive. Makes me feel like there's someone, someone actually here listening, caring, and sharing. We love that. The troll, well, the live stream can also be experienced on a modern podcast app, which will alert you when we send out the bat signal. This is, this is a good

Starting point is 01:45:42 thing to have. So that if you're available, you'll know they're going live. Okay, just click. And it's in the same app that you get all of your podcasts, you can import all your podcasts into it, no problem. You might as well, since you're going to see, particularly now that Spotify is going to be moving to video, and they're going to do advertising again, they're making all the same mistakes. So they'll be deplatforming stuff as usual. It's the nature of advertising.

Starting point is 01:46:08 There's no two ways about it. And when we publish the show, you get updated within 90 seconds. It's all part of the podcasting 2.0 magic. Get a modern podcast app at podcastapps.com. 17 years we've been running the show. We do it value for value, which means we send out a newsletter and then you are encouraged

Starting point is 01:46:29 to support the show. Or you can listen to the donation segment and be inspired because other people are supporting the show and they do that with time, talent and treasure. And I've received some feedback from the producers. By the way, everyone who listens is a producer. You have an obligation to give us boots on the ground. Of course, send us treasure if you can, but help us out anyway, just by promoting the show.

Starting point is 01:46:53 Our artists who have been a big staple of the show for many years, you know, there's a little bit of, a little bit of an issue with AI. And I did want to read a note from Matt Boivere. Now we've picked his art several times. And I wanted to share what he said about the art since my complaint is there's too much AI. We wind up ultimately picking an AI piece because there's just too much AI.

Starting point is 01:47:25 I mean, what else are you going to do if the Dutch masters are no longer in there? And I think I was spot on. He said, Adam, listening today, you talked about artists no longer producing for the no agenda because of AI. And I have to say, that is exactly how I've been feeling for a long time. The AI art being there was more an annoyance at first, but once you guys started picking AI art, it destroyed my drive to even try anymore. Pretty much exactly as you said, doing art from scratch over the course of three hours is incredibly hard to do, takes a ton of energy. And once the AI stuff

Starting point is 01:48:00 started getting picked, I gave up. In fact, I made arrangements in my school year schedule, so I am available to do art every Thursday, but I think I'm the only producer that produced art once in the last few months, and it's sad, and I don't know what the fix is. I keep my eye on the art as I can approve it, and you're right, the real artists seem to have lost the drive to participate. This is what AI is doing to art.

Starting point is 01:48:24 It's destroying us. It's just, it's AI is doing to art. It's destroying us. It's just AI is doing it to everything. Yes, but it doesn't mean that it's not sad. And then if you look at the art that we chose, this is the kicker. This is episode 1712 titled Data Plateau. And we picked the art from Darren O'Neill, which was of course AI, which was pretty funny. No agenda milk, you got the missing Democrat voters. But on the last episode, we thanked Kube the boob who did the art for 1711.

Starting point is 01:48:58 This was the the Waste Buster. You remember that art with the... Yeah, yeah, of course. Here's his note. So I'm listening to the show on Thursday, excited to hear the art segment because my art was picked. But all I hear is you two talk about how you begrudgingly picked it because there was nothing better. Come on, man. At least I showed up and submitted something that was objectively a well executed piece, a usable... This is a typical art. I love usable. This is the artist lament.

Starting point is 01:49:28 They get the stuff picked, but there's still, you know, you guys, we didn't pick it with enough accolades. Come on. That's a good one. I love that note. He says, it goes on. Yes, the cheesecake was AI. Maybe the connection to the magic pill, Ozempic, and the reduction of government waste didn't land,

Starting point is 01:49:45 but I still worked hard on the art. When you say this is my, and there's another gripe, when you say this is my first time my art was picked for the show, that's not true. It's been a while, but my last win was Kabul. My art has regularly been used as chapter art and newsletter art, which I always acknowledge happens, as well as before show art. I get that you've got your Dutch master favorites, but when you shit on other artists and don't expect them to keep showing up, yeah, okay. I know I'm acting butthurt, but as a regular triple T donator and being well beyond knighthood, is it too much to ask for a little acknowledgement? We gave you the acknowledgement.

Starting point is 01:50:31 We picked it. It was a good piece. We liked it. It's just that we didn't, you know. I even went back and we said it was pretty. We liked it. We were critiquing it. And I liked the cheesecake part. We weren't shitting on it. We were critiquing it. Well, maybe from his perspective. But I would say if we're going to shit on something, let's talk about the Darren O'Neill piece. It's a sorry day when Darren ends up winning.

Starting point is 01:51:00 I mean, come on, Darren does everything and And now he, you know, he takes the art because nobody else can come up with anything. Oh my goodness. By the way, this thing about this particular piece, you should go look at it because in the small form, we both saw Snoopy the dog. It looked exactly like Snoopy. It was crazy. And then when you blow it up, it's a cow. It's like, it's like an optical illusion. I don't know blow it up, it's a cow. It's like an optical illusion. I don't know if it became, it was part of the system that created it, but it's hilarious to see that Snoopy the dog picture becomes a cow. Now, okay.

Starting point is 01:51:36 Now, just about the choices we had, because without a doubt, we both cracked up and we're laughing our ass off over Scaramangas. What's that in your mouth? Yes. That was the clear winner that we were never going to pick. If you haven't seen it, you need to go to noagendaartgenerator.com. I mean, it was just so vile. There's no way we could-

Starting point is 01:52:03 I couldn't even use it for the newsletter. And we would have gotten more donations probably. Well, maybe. Good point. It was absolutely hilarious, but no, we couldn't use it. I mean, even we have some kind of level of scruples. Yes, we do certain things we can't do. Not much, but yeah, this just took it a little bit too far. Now I will say that I really appreciated Dutch master Tante Neil coming back in and she came in with the seasoning of reveal, but you know, we, the colors weren't right.

Starting point is 01:52:39 I mean, it just didn't pop. I mean, I hate to say it. And then there was a bunch of, of, of just the random stains on the right there, like a sheet or something. Yeah, it was splooged. Who was that all about? It had something to do with Rub It the Wrong Way, I'm sure, knowing Tantanil. And then Comics for a Blogger had Seasoning of Reveal, which was actually not even that. I mean,

Starting point is 01:53:04 we laughed at it because it had too many eggs.com as a, as a native ad on the side. Another winner is another Scaramanga piece. The lewd ones, coastal erections with the little, what does that say on the side? Meet Marco. Meet Marco. Another hilarious piece that we couldn't use. No, it was...

Starting point is 01:53:30 But then, you know, I think he's just doing this now just to amuse himself. Well, it amused us. We just didn't feel it would be appropriate. Everyone's amused. We have a family show. That just went too far. We looked at for quite a while, a cadmium and crackers by Sir Shug, which was no agenda

Starting point is 01:53:49 elementables. And you had a real problem with the, I have color viewing issues and you had a real problem with the green and some other things you made points about. No, it was too... The blue on blue and the light blue with the... It just was... They just did not come out... Because I don't have color blindness. In fact, blues come out a little... After you get cataract surgery, blues are better. But it just was just... It was kind of... The contrast was not there.

Starting point is 01:54:22 It was lacking proper contrast. And also the bottom was cut off. So I mean, the box should have been centered in the frame. It was a lot of flaws in that piece. It's interesting that AI is, in essence, ruining art for us. I mean, it really is. It's ruining art. Because we have said quite clearly, we'll

Starting point is 01:54:45 take a great concept executed by a real artist over something that looks slick, that just isn't there. It just doesn't do it any day. But you know, I understand the artists, they put all this time into it. And then for whatever reason, their execution, it just didn't work. It happens. I mean, you can't always hit it on the mark. And then they see someone did some like a Darren O'Neill does some prompt jockeying. Boom, he gets chosen with a stupid milk carton. I understand. I understand the frustration, but let me just make it even worse for you. Listen to this. This is a bonus clip. Listen to this BBC segment on AI poetry.

Starting point is 01:55:25 Findings published in the journal Scientific Reports reveal that people can't tell the difference between human and AI poetry and sometimes even prefer the non-human generated poems. The study used AI to write poetry in the style of 10 poets such as Shakespeare and Sylvia Plath. Participants were then presented with 10 poems in random order, five from a real poet and five AI imitations. And they scored the AI poems higher, attributing their marks to creativity and emotional quality. In the same spirit then, Anita Anand challenged Pulitzer Prize winning poet Paul Muldoon to

Starting point is 01:56:06 detect the human from the AI offering in this test. Here is take one. When winter's frost does chill the wintry air, and all the earth is covered in a shroud, my thoughts turn to thee, gentle and fair, and in thy love I find a warmth endowed. Number two. Thy bosom is endeared with all hearts which I by lacking had supposed dead and there reigns love and all loves loving parts and all those friends which I thought buried. The first one I think was written by AI because there is of course lots of poetry that

Starting point is 01:56:44 is written by real people which is actually not very good. You're right, you nailed it. The first one was by AI and the second one was by the actual William Shakespeare. There you go. Enough said. People choose AI poetry over Shakespeare. Done.

Starting point is 01:57:04 The humanity is over. That's it. That's it. Well, since the AI is sucked out of the mass amount of information that humanity created, this doesn't mean humanity is over. It's now that it's creating its original material and it starts to get sloppy. That's when it's over. Well, you know, the big problem is they're hitting the limits now and there's no more content to suck in. So now they're going to suck in synthetic content.

Starting point is 01:57:34 There's a real slowdown in the performance. No, they should stop sucking it in. That's the key. No, but it's not good enough. They keep saying, we need more. We need more, more power. I need more power, Scotty. You cannot stop the money train on this thing.

Starting point is 01:57:53 They've told everybody, if we just had more money, if we just had more power, it'll get better. And it's not. That's the problem. Anyway, I'll get off this. I think it's pretty good now. Okay. I mean, the pretty good now. Okay. I mean the milk carton that O'Neill cranked out is reasonable.

Starting point is 01:58:10 But do you think Darren would make that milk carton if it would cost him $50, which is probably the actual cost? No. Oh, God, no. Never. No, people would go back to hand drawing if they had to pay $50. That's when it's going to end. And I did appreciate the farmer's wife. We talked about her. That was one of her kids who drew that. She made her,

Starting point is 01:58:29 she put her kids to work and took a picture of it and we didn't choose it. I feel bad about that. Anyway, we talked about it though. It was QP's. Good news. Tina is listening. She, we've, we've, we've the tease carried her through into the donation segment. We haven't even talked about the donations yet. Stay with the baby. Here we go. As we kick it off with our number one producer for today. Now remember we thank everybody $50 and above for every single episode. You are all considered producers and we love it when you do a sustaining donation,

Starting point is 01:59:05 which is any amount, any frequency, you can do that. NoagendaDonations.com. We will thank our associate executive producers, as John mentioned, not many today, $200 and above. And we'll read your note and whatever you want to put in there within reason. And $300 and above, executive producer, producer credit that you can keep forever and even use it on imdb.com and other places where Hollywood credits are recognized and coming in today as an executive producer but also our top donor he is back in quick succession, Sur Animas of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia. He was out of service as a reason.

Starting point is 01:59:45 Yeah, he was out of the service area. Yeah, basically. And so here he is with 2822. We have no idea what these numbers mean. We are convinced there's some type of intelligence code. Tell me that he had 11 $2 bills in his... No, he had one $2 bill and a 20. Oh, okay. Because he always adds... I actually walk around with $2 bills now. It's hilarious. Yes, good luck. It is good luck.

Starting point is 02:00:13 And it has the signing of the Constitution on it, which is nice. And he has a longer note than usual, which we are happy to share. By the way, when are they going gonna make a big head $2 bill? A big head $2 bill? Yeah, all the bills, they took the old little small heads. Yeah. Then they made them big. There's a big giant head on a hundred,

Starting point is 02:00:35 there's a big giant head on every bill except the two. Who is on the $2 bill? Jefferson. Very good answer. From Seronomus of Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia, thank you to all the producers for their hard work and contributions to make this such an important source of information. Your post-election summary and clips revealing the lack of comprehension by many M5M participants of how disrupted their industry has become was outstanding. As someone

Starting point is 02:01:02 their industry has become was outstanding. As someone that works to identify areas of disruption before the disrupted identify and adapt, finding M5M broadcasts of their own self-analysis reinforced what makes this such a valuable source of information. What does this tell us about Seronomus? That's interesting. He works to identify areas of disruption. He's in the business of deconstructing something. I will clarify my anti-NATO comments I received during my travels. Good. The comments cover three significant regions of former NATO member colonies, with virtually

Starting point is 02:01:40 all the countries younger than John and many younger than Adam. What is this? with virtually all the countries younger than John and many younger than Adam. What is this? It has to be like... This is the recent ones, the ones where they were after James Baker says we're not taking... Oh yeah. The deal was, let's go back, this has been discussed a million times, but James Baker tried to... The Soviet Union fell apart and we wanted to reunite Germany in exchange for doing that. We said we're not going to move NATO any further east. We lied.

Starting point is 02:02:11 So they let us reunite Germany and then we reneged. And then they said, oh, you didn't have it in writing. Whereas the contract, there have been recent headlines in the past two years of military intervention by current NATO members against former colony coups, but the experiences extend much further back of bailing out a NATO ally. Does anyone remember Vietnam? He says. Do you understand that one? No, I don't quite. What I sense was direct... I think Libya would be a better example, but okay. What I sense was directed towards the US growing military and financial support of NATO, which

Starting point is 02:02:48 in many of these former colonies view, subsidizes their former rulers' ability to keep bases in their former colony and exert undue influence. Well, yes, that is the American military way. So we do it. Each of these now free countries would rather have the US provide their financial support that is currently directed towards subsidizing highly developed NATO military allies toward their own military, which is under supplied and dealing with significant issues, including terrorism and natural disasters.

Starting point is 02:03:18 Collectively, these countries represent a significant UN voting bloc and untold natural resource riches and they know it as do Russia and China. Hello Ukraine! No jingles no karma PS this is my October payment for the no agenda plus subscription for the plus bundle yes it's a good deal that that plus bundle with special behind-the-scenes access to what otherwise would be outtakes and edits left on the cutting room floor. That's right Keep keep no agenda out of the bundle. Thank you very much, Sironomous of Dogpatch and Lois LeBovia Particularly on a day like today. We appreciate you big time

Starting point is 02:03:56 Yeah, today would have been total disaster Sir Tyler in Boca Raton, Florida comes in with three hundred sixty three dollars and seventy six cents And he writes in the morning John and Adam Sir Tyler in Boca Raton, Florida comes in with $363.76. And he writes, in the morning, John and Adam, I have been a loyal producer and listener ever since episode number 12, back when Adam smoked weed and did the show stoned. I was 17 years old at the time, and now I'm 34. Now I'm 34. Yeesh. Yeesh. I haven't missed a single episode. I wanted to donate to

Starting point is 02:04:28 45-47 for Trump's win because I like the numerology. But it didn't seem like enough value. So I multiplied the Trump donation by 4. One time for each year he'll be in an office. Which is 36376. Love is lit. Tyler Knight of South Florida's

Starting point is 02:04:44 graffiti painted walls. Would love some R2D2 karma if you have it. We do. You've got Karma. And like clockwork, the minute we started the donation segment right after Seronymous, I saw Tina walk out with a dog. Of course. She hates the show. She might be listening on her earbuds. I doubt it.

Starting point is 02:05:09 I wouldn't be so sure. Brian from Cape, she loves the show, John, and she loves you like I do. We love you. Oh brother. Brian is from Cape Girardeau, in Missouri, 333.33. In the morning, I'm a long-time listener, first-time donor. Yes, please de-douche me.

Starting point is 02:05:32 You've been de-douched. I could not deny the value I got from this show any longer. Well, thank you. Your deconstruction of the rhetoric around Trump resonated with me, where virtually all public events and commentary, even seemingly adversarial attacks, pointed to what amounted to a conspiracy to get Trump into the White House. Your take was clearly spot on. I go a bit further from your stance, believing this election was even more rigged in Trump's

Starting point is 02:06:00 favor. For example, I think there's a real chance the assassination attempt was theater, with or without Trump's favor. For example, I think there's a real chance the assassination attempt was theater with or without Trump's knowledge. Just imagine what magicians can do on stage, let alone the most powerful people in the world. In any case, your deconstruction was a key pillar in my making a significant wager on a Trump victory. I've gambled on sports and other events for many years,

Starting point is 02:06:21 but this was my highest confidence and highest dollar wager of all time. It is only right that I share in the value you helped create. Keep loving what you do and loving your truck for more years. Can I get in there eating the dogs says Brian in Cape Girardeau in Missouri and on that I wanted to mention a note from circumference. He said, just like a pharma ad, all the warnings and side effects don't deter people, they boost sales. Maybe that contributed to Trump's win, which I thought was an interesting theory.

Starting point is 02:07:05 Yeah. It's very possible. Yeah, you like that thought. Yeah, I do. You're up. All right, yeah. Dame Rita, she's in Sparks, Nevada, 333.33. She says, I.T.M. gentlemen, thank you for the twice weekly dose of sanity and laughter. Dame Rita, that's a great note.

Starting point is 02:07:29 Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility donated twice, 333.33, two times, which seems to be in order. Yes, October 31st and November 5th somehow. What happened, I can explain this. Okay. It seems that one of the notes got kind of sidelined in the mail and they both came in at the same time when they should have come in one week after another. But there they are. There's two of them now. So, since we're getting near the end, I'll read his notes. In an instant, it's two notes, actually.

Starting point is 02:08:00 Two notes, yes. Please find my October donation of 33333. I apologize for the delayed donation. It's been a crazy busy time here in the land of cherry trees. I'll get back on track in November. John, referring to show 1703, Reagan's team eliminated the car loan interest tax deduction as part of their effort to broaden the tax base and lower the tax rate. The 1986 tax reform reduced the top tax rate from 50% to 28% but was targeted to be revenue

Starting point is 02:08:28 neutral. The policy theory is to limit the impact of taxes on economic decisions. The lower the tax rate, the less impact it has on the economics of the transaction. If you don't mind, please play the backup to the backup jingle. It cracks me up every single time I hear it. A backup and a backup to that backup and a backup to the backup to the backup. Love cracks me up every single time I hear it. A backup and a backup to that backup and a backup to the backup to the backup. Love the show. Thank you for what you do. Four more years. And in the second note, please find and close my November donation of 333.33.

Starting point is 02:08:56 Keeping it short, love the show. Sincerely, Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility, Earl of the Lands of the Red Clay and the Cherry Trees. Yeah. That was nice. Leah Rize comes in from Madison, Alabama, 333. Hi, T.M. John and Adam. My name is Leah Rize. I'm a single mother of four adopted kids and a single mother of four adopted kids and unfortunately a douchebag.

Starting point is 02:09:25 Oh no! Oh no! You've been de-douche-ed. I've written a wonderful children's book called Maverick a Million. Available on Amazon. If any of your producers are looking for a great gift for their kids or grandkids for Christmas, this would be one book to get them. Check out Maverick a Million on Amazon by Leah Rives, I guess. For jingles, I like Trump's Jobs jingle for the sale of my book. Also, Trump loves Nazis just because it's hilarious.

Starting point is 02:09:59 Thank you for your courage and for all you do for us. Sincerely, Leah Rives. Donald loves Nazis. Donald loves Nazis. CNN say that he's KKK and he shouts, sig hail with it, wow. Jobs, jobs, jobs. You've got karma. And I can report just as I thought. Tina says, oh brother, I am listening. I was wondering if she was. I knew she was listening all the time. I think the oh brother is, oh God, I love John oh brother. All right. Yeah, well that's what that was probably, I'm sure.

Starting point is 02:10:44 My wife is awesome. There you go. Oh, it's my, I'm sorry. Oh, Aaron Heath. Oh, it was so short. Lewiston. Uh, what is SA? South Africa. All right. How can it be U S then? Well, what is SA? What state is SA? I'm trying to figure it out myself. South America? I have no idea what SA is. Lewiston. It must be a typo. It must be SC. It must be South Carolina.

Starting point is 02:11:15 Lewiston sounds like South Carolina. Lewiston does. It could be Mexico. Is it Mexico? Well, that came in off of a Stripe account, so that was put in by hand, so it could be a typo. Well, anyway, Aaron Heath, he wants jobs karma, and we say thank you for your support with 333. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You got karma. Here's our buddy, Eli the Coffee Guy from Bensonville, Illinois. $211.17 and he has a switcheroo here.

Starting point is 02:11:47 This is interesting. In the morning, my wife, Jen, and I would like to make this donation on behalf of fellow producer and friend of the show, Ashlyn Speed. Yes, she's doing great. She won the Mazda MX5 Cup Shootout Scholarship. Which is the first female to do it, I might add. First female ever, and there's all kinds of, as we predicted, sponsors are lining up.

Starting point is 02:12:13 They love her. We said right away, this racer, Ashlyn Speed, first of all, Go Speed racer, best name in racing. She is- Yeah, Ashlyn Speed, you can just tell it. 10 years from now, she's going to be all over the place. This is obvious.

Starting point is 02:12:28 And I mean, I'm sure that no agenda will not be able to be on the car pretty soon because you know, someone at Mazda is going to go, what's this nonsense? How much are they paying you? Well, we kind of comp them. Get it off or I'm not going to... But Pennzoil, Pennzoil. Red Bull, here we go. By the way, I pray that she gets Red Bull.

Starting point is 02:12:50 That would be great for her. She is destined for greatness. So Red Bull would be a perfect sponsor, yeah. She's destined for greatness and we're very proud to be here. She'll be the first female to win a NASCAR race. I'm telling you, she's. No, she'll probably be, definitely Indy 500. Indy 500 for sure. She could do F1. She has it, man. She's a

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Starting point is 02:16:09 Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Whoa! Boy, now back up and back up, back up to the back up. Shut up, sleep. You know, in the last show we talked about FEMA. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:16:25 We had this very good clip about the scamish nature. With the... And the woman... I'll tell you what it was. It's the naturally occurring affordable housing, which is some people like, oh, Noah, I know about those guys. No, no, it's not an agency. It is a term used in real estate investments, naturally occurring, affordable housing. And the what I had the

Starting point is 02:16:53 assertion or kind of the just listening to the woman who was blamed for somehow being a horrible person, turns out that there's a bunch of agencies and other groups in the middle of this assessment they make of your home. So when we all thought, wow, I can't believe Fimo's supposed to save us from disaster is skipping people with Trump flags. That was not at all what happened.

Starting point is 02:17:16 And that was how it was presented. And I think we kind of believe that that might've been purposeful to cover up what might really be going on. And you have the note from one of our producers. Yes, one of our producers, producer Melinda, she writes, and this is kind of a long note you have to bear with me. My home is in Clearwater, Florida,

Starting point is 02:17:33 flooded during the hurricane Helene, 17 inches outside, six inches inside. Per instructions from our flood insurance handbook slash insurance company and county officials, we contacted FEMA to notify them of the flooding via online registration funny as soon as I completed the form and uploaded it I started to receive solicitation calls for roof inspections home demos blah blah blah so they are selling the data

Starting point is 02:18:00 immediately no big shock but it does piss me off. Anyway, anyone on our street did the same registration. We were all contacted that we would receive an inspection. Turns out they all occurred on the same day, same guy. When the FEMA rep arrived at my house, he was armed with an iPad. He walked through my home and followed a questionnaire with prompts on the pad. He only wanted to know how many bedrooms we had. He took a photo of each bedroom and had to confirm that each room had a bed. He also wanted to know how many TVs were in the house and which rooms had a TV. That was it.

Starting point is 02:18:41 That was all he asked. When he was done, I offered him water and some cookies and he left. He went to the next house and he went and was asked about the TVs. My neighbor challenged him as to why that was irrelevant. Why it was relevant and why the guy, and then the guy just left. So what does TV ownership reflect on the elbows that FEMA uses. Anyway, a week later, I received my $750 and an additional $2,600 direct deposit to my checking account. The neighbor who challenged the guy only got $750. I guess those Publix cookies and water paid off. The rub now is FEMA is conducting an assessment of Pinellas County to decide

Starting point is 02:19:25 what neighborhoods had substantial damage versus not substantial damage. Anything less than 12 inches of water in the home is considered not substantial damage. However, since FEMA report is not complete and notification letters have not been set to homeowners. The county is refusing to issue permits for repair because they don't want to upset FEMA. More accurately is to make sure they get as much money from the FEDE government as possible. It's all bullshit. And we're unable to start the repair of our houses all the while we live

Starting point is 02:20:01 elsewhere, paying both mortgages and rent. The level of anger in this county is growing and all the anger is toward FEMA and the county. I hope other producers have some insight into this FEMA bullshit. And, uh, so we were talking about this, the, the TV in every room, what, what was our kind of guess what that had to do with anything? It had to probably do with, we thought maybe income level.

Starting point is 02:20:29 Especially if it's OLED, if it's an OLED then you're rolling in dough. After OLED, yes, for sure. Income level. Those things are not cheap, but I don't know. I got a couple other extra- It's very suspicious though. Well, also, that FEMA person was working for an independent agency that hires people on behalf of FEMA. We now know that's how it works. And the fact that that company apparently is selling your data right away to roofing companies is an absolute outrage. It really is disgusting that that's how our government operates with these con everyone's a contractor We got millions of people in government, but yet we need contractors and NGOs to do the work

Starting point is 02:21:10 Another note that I got several notes about the movie twister which I think is now also streaming and people say this whole the whole movie is about this scam and So I have not seen it, but Matt emailed me this, that Avernath story reminded me, I'd never heard of a company like this until my wife and I went to see Twister this summer. The villains in the movie are scientists who turn out to be getting their funding from a company like Avernath. As storm chasers, they show up after tornadoes to help,

Starting point is 02:21:47 but are actually just getting everybody's info, appraise damages and convince the victim it's easier if they sell instead of rebuild. Well, there you go. Art imitating life. So this will be an ongoing story for us. Yeah, it looks like it. Because especially since they railroaded that poor lady, she got fired from FEMA and from her job, which might be the

Starting point is 02:22:16 culprits in all of this or maybe the agency in the middle. We don't know. And as often happens when we're right about things on the Noagenda show, it pays off for people. I'm waiting for one of our producers to get one of these paydays. A Michigan court has awarded nearly $13 million to a woman who was fired in 2021 for refusing the COVID-19 vaccine on religious grounds during the pandemic. A jury ruled in favor of Lisa Domski, a Catholic woman who sued Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, her former employer of 38 years.

Starting point is 02:22:52 Domski argued that the company violated her rights by firing her after she requested an exemption from its vaccine mandate, citing her Catholic beliefs and giving a written statement with the name of her priest. But her request was denied by the company. The jury found that Domski's firing was unlawful, and that Blue Cross Blue Shield had failed to accommodate her religious beliefs. Domski's legal team celebrated the ruling, calling it a major win for religious freedom.

Starting point is 02:23:21 Attorney John Marco said, Our forefathers fought and died for the freedom of each American to practice his or her own religion. Neither the government nor a corporation has a right to force an individual to choose between his or her career and conscience. Just the tip, ladies and gentlemen, just the tip of the iceberg is going to be a lot of this. Yeah, there's going gonna be a lot of this. Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of this. I think that's a bonanza and I think the transgender stuff is gonna be a bonanza. I got a call from Sir Ducifer who was

Starting point is 02:23:54 very close to the Infowars outfit and he gave me the lowdown but you have the clips and I'm pretty sure they explain what's been going on over there. Well there's probably more to be explained by that because I kept the clips kind of short. But let's start with Alex Jones coming on the air yesterday and well on the air he was on Twitter and making this comment. This is the fake auction comment? Fake auction. It is Saturday, November 16th, 2024 and I'm standing here in the Infowars studios. auction. is reporting that not only did the judge halt the sale of Info Wars at auction of the onion, but that the sale did not go through. It was not an auction.

Starting point is 02:24:50 It was a private secret sale masquerading as an auction. And I can tell you we've now gotten all the auction materials and the rules, and none of it was followed. That means federal law was not followed. And it gets worse than that. The Sandy Hook families put a placeholder in there and their bid that no matter how high our bid with the Patriots were trying to buy it, it would kick in magically the billion and a half dollar judgment they have on me that's fake

Starting point is 02:25:23 and on appeal to magically match that But the people bidding would never know that no matter how big their bid This funny money that didn't exist would then beat them. Did you just hear what I just said? Now they had earlier regular auction rules in a regular auction house doing it and it was going to be online Anybody could bid. But two days before they said, no, no, no, no new rules, just sealed bid. The day of that's it. All right.

Starting point is 02:25:52 Do you know this indicated that the, the, the whole thing about Alex Jones is just to get rid of him. Um, they weren't going to let anyone buy his assets and give it back to him. And this onion thing seems to be a front. The onion has turned into some sort of front organization of some sort. So the next, I guess, the end of last week on GMA, the onion guys, Stepanophilus somehow got wind of this being something scamish and he had a couple onion executives, I didn't know there were such a thing,

Starting point is 02:26:26 but there's a couple of them, on GMA and this is the clip from that. Overnight the judge in charge of this put a hold on your purchase, raising questions about the process, raising questions about transparency in the bidding process. What do you make of that? Are you confident this is still gonna go through? Yeah, look, we won the bid.

Starting point is 02:26:42 We own Enforis and we are very excited about that. But is it true that you didn't have the highest bid? We did have the highest bid. We take into account the family's concessions here. They made a concerted effort to make this the best and highest bid for everybody involved. So we're very excited to take that over. And look, it's Alex Jones.

Starting point is 02:27:05 If he just handled this graciously and moved away, that would be the funniest part of this whole situation. Obviously that is not something that he's going to do in the situation. So you're confident this is going to go through. Absolutely. So this is the, here's the inside information I received. A patriot, as you heard Alex Jones say, bid three and a half million dollars. And this is just hearsay, but I'm going to believe Sir Deucifer hands down Alex Jones say, bid $3.5 million.

Starting point is 02:27:25 And this is just hearsay, but I'm going to believe Sir Deucifer hands down, bid $3.5 million for the intellectual property, which means the domain name and use of the name Infowars with the entire idea that Alice could make a, gosh, what are they called? In Holland, they called it door start. I'm not sure what they call it. Like a, like a, it's almost like a touch and go. You know, so it's like, okay, we're, we hit the ground, but we're going to lift

Starting point is 02:27:51 off again and we'll be able to function under the Infowars brand. The, the Onion organization bid $1.7 million, but with a back end deal from the Sandy Hook families that they would make the rest of the money whole once they receive money from Alex Jones, which is a completely convoluted thing. And I agree with your assessment. It was only to just get rid of Jones And and the judge has now halted this and he got wind of this Oh, hold on a second

Starting point is 02:28:31 and I'm not quite sure if this is backdoor dealing with the auction house or or with whoever Is there some kind of conservator or someone who holds on to these? Properties before they're sent to auction? I'm not sure. It would be nice if some media outlet that have reporters in the field that can go actually do a write-up of this, actually be journalists, so we could take a look at that and deconstruct it. But since we don't always have is what Jones said. He went on longer than, he went on 15 minutes

Starting point is 02:29:06 trying to explain it, but it was, it just sounds like a giant scam. And I think it was just to get his voice off the air. Somebody, somewhere, somehow took a serious disliking to Alex Jones and they just want to get him, get him, be gone with him. That's what this guy said, the onion kind of indicated. So, well, if he was more, what they said at the end of that little report with Stefanophilus was, oh, well, if he was a little more, you know, a nicer guy, or if he was, if he was more amenable, he'd just go, you know, get out of here, but he wouldn't do that. Well, the CEO of the Onion, who was a new CEO, relatively new, he is a former

Starting point is 02:29:48 reporter for NBC News. In fact, he was the disinformation and extremism reporter. So that should tell you something about that division. And he actually explained the strategy in a video made much earlier. Here we are. We own the Unknown Infowars. Look, we're going to go after all the, like every facet of alternative media that is trying to get you addicted to stupid stuff. Like there is a whole world of podcasters and TikTok influencers who have some really curious ideas of the world. And I also think that we're learning right now that their followings are

Starting point is 02:30:34 just as big, if not bigger than traditional celebrities. And they've, they've gone un-mocked. They've gone, uh, they got a free pass to this point. And we don't think that that's fair. So I guess this, the brilliant strategy. So this is a, so the onion has gone away from being a satirical operation to a Psi-op. Yep. And how did, when did that and how did that happen?

Starting point is 02:30:59 I'm not sure, but I mean, nobody, you never see posts or anything, but the humor now comes from the Babylon Bee, the onion see posts or anything. But the humor now comes from the Babylon Bee. The onion hasn't done anything. No. They basically folded. And so now they're a front organization for who knows what. But this doesn't sound good. That's a great clip.

Starting point is 02:31:16 And somehow they think that by mocking the podcasters, that's going to be, A, funny, B, have some kind of influence on their audience size. This is, and seeing that he's coming from NBC and he cajoled some people into putting up money for this poorly thought out humor strategy, this is not going to be funny. It's not a humor strategy at all. Well that's what he's saying. It's time they got mocked. Bro, we mock Alex Jones enough for ten people and we love him. That's why we can do it and that's why it's funny and Alex Jones is funny.

Starting point is 02:31:57 He's a good guy. And by the way, Alex Jones has been right about a lot of things. So whatever you want to say about him, but yeah, this was just to get rid of Alex and I guess to put everybody in the crosshairs or something. Very, very feeble. Very feeble. And the guy who put up the money was a big donor to Kamala Harris. So I don't know if that means anything. It means something. Yeah. So that's what we have right now. So President Trump is not even in office.

Starting point is 02:32:35 Things are already changing around the country. Everything's changing around the world. Everything's changing. Lawmakers in Ohio have approved legislation that restricts the use of school bathrooms by transgender students. Karen Kassler with Ohio Public Media says the governor is expected to sign that bill. The ban requires public and private, primary and secondary schools to designate bathrooms

Starting point is 02:32:58 and facilities for the exclusive use of either males or females. Republican Senate President Matt Huffman says it's about safety and security. I think that this bill in fact protects the rights of most people. The bill will threaten students' mental and physical health, according to LGBTQ activists such as Morgan Zickus with the group Equality Ohio. Trans students want a fair chance to succeed in school and these bills make that harder. Eleven other states have some form of a bathroom ban. At least four have been challenged in court.

Starting point is 02:33:32 Those eleven states in Ohio all voted for Republicans in last week's election. For NPR News, I'm Karen Kastler in Columbus. So horrible, horrible, horrible. I can't use the bathroom. There was a, I don't have the clip, but it was one of the, it was ridiculed endlessly by the lefties losing it broadcast out of Sky News Australia where this guy's talking, this black guy's talking about how the Republicans were against men and women's sports and the guy goes, nuts!

Starting point is 02:34:05 And he says, they're women! They say they're women, they're women, and you're being a bigot. And he goes on and on. The argument is quite funny. I'm thinking that they're going to, the people that get into arguments with these lunatics, you're going to have to start changing the language, and I hate to say that, but I think you should call, you should say, you don't like XY chromosome to people competing in XX chromosome sports. Get around that one. There's always a retort and the retort is intersex people is real man.

Starting point is 02:34:42 Because there are people who aren't intersex. No, but there are people who are intersex people is real man because there are people aren't intersex no but there are people who are but they're chromosome XY or I know I know but for the one intersex person in a million you've got to have it the bathroom thing straight now this is I'm just telling you that will be the retort I'm not saying is right and that's what that's what you're gonna get it's crazy there was a There was a pretty good article. Where did I get this? This was in... Well, by the way, the XXXY thing might apply to bathrooms the way you put it, but it does not apply to sports. I think it's a great idea and I think you should

Starting point is 02:35:20 make bumper stickers. I'm not doing nothing. Financial Times had a very interesting article about the Democrats' loss in this election. And this guy, John and Ganesh, whatever his name is, however you pronounce it, he said, the problem is, and this kind of pertains to podcasts, is that Americans just want to speak English. And the language of progressive liberals and Democrats is so obvious. He says, for example, using the phrase redemption arc, or accuse a third person of having main character syndrome or doing something performative, Kara Swisher, you're likely to hear toxic and narcissism

Starting point is 02:36:16 and cosplay in Washington DC during the Biden administration. Your date in DC was likelier to say, I'm an empath. And you know, it's so true. They have this jargon that is just so, and of course it comes across as elitist. Code words. Code words, yeah, code words. And that's also, that is the reason why people gravitate towards podcasts. We speak English. We don't use all these weird things.

Starting point is 02:36:50 Ah, crap, 1919. We don't use all these... You said it again. That's the show you said. We're 19-0. We're equal now. It's just something of... I'm not competing with you.

Starting point is 02:37:01 Okay. Since we're not competing, then I will move on to an excellent short report from the BBC Wait, before you go, I said you brought up the screwball Character notice I use the word screwball. Yes Characteristics of the good one. Thank you. Thank you I do have the clip the bonus clip that we might as well play. I believe this is a staged bit, but it looks like it's real. There's a cop pulls some guy over and he's being recorded by the partner sitting in the other seat. And it's the Cat Man clip that you will have there in front of you.

Starting point is 02:37:38 You do currently have a California driver's license. You just don't have a physical copy on you at the moment. That's my preferred method of identification. And this is? It's a cat caller. I'm currently identifying as a cat. Fair enough. The information here in the tag, I'm assuming, belongs to you, the boyfriend?

Starting point is 02:37:53 Yeah, that's so rude. I hope you know I'm recording. Well, it wasn't my intention to offend you, but he just identified as a cat and you're wearing a Harrods Waltz t-shirt, so forgive me if I came to a conclusion that you guys are involved in some sort of a homosexual arrangement. I'm not mad that you think we're together but you're using gender language. Besides, I'm not his boyfriend, I'm his owner. Okay, well look, we can do this the hard way if you'd like. I can have this car towed because last I checked a cat is not licensed

Starting point is 02:38:19 to operate a motor vehicle in the state of California. We can have animal control come get you take you to a shelter where your owner can retrieve you for a fee of $70 after you're given the necessary immunizations, which do include a rabies shot, possibly even spayed or neutered, whichever you prefer or identify with. Is that what you guys wanna do here? What should we do?

Starting point is 02:38:38 I don't know, I don't have $70. Sir, I can also request that a mental health care professional come down here on scene and do an evaluation of you because you're considering letting him take a rabies shot rather than just give me an ID, use some manners so I can give you your ticket and move along. Yeah, that was pretty staged. It was really staged, but I got it. Goes around as a serious clip.

Starting point is 02:39:03 But I like to play these bony clips. Yes. As you know, this will substitute for the AI clip of the day. With your setup of, I don't know if it's real or not. Oh boy, I keep falling for it, John. Let's talk about China. We need that pivot. BBC is all over it.

Starting point is 02:39:22 The leaders of the world's two biggest economies, the US and China, have met on the sidelines of a summit in Peru, a day after both leaders warned of turbulent times ahead. Again on the sidelines. Like, why not just meet at the summit? Why the secret sideline bit? It's likely to be the last time that President Joe Biden and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping meet in person before Donald Trump takes over from Mr. Biden in January. Mr. Xi told Mr. Biden that China would, quote,

Starting point is 02:39:52 strive for a smooth transition from relations with the U.S. Mr. Trump has threatened to impose tariffs of up to 60% on Chinese imports at a time when China's economy is already struggling. Steve Tang, the director of the China Institute at Soas University here in London, says nothing will change now until Mr. Trump takes over. The United States have been briefing that they're going to use the occasion to challenge China on issues where they have concerns, things like hacking, human rights violations, threats against Taiwan. But as you say, this is really part of the Biden swan song and you know President Xi

Starting point is 02:40:30 doesn't have to worry about things like term limits. He's very secure in his position and you can sort of feel the Chinese sort of metaphorically already looking over Joe Biden's shoulder at the incoming Trump administration and what that might mean for them. Well, what might that mean for them? And the fact that they're meeting in South America where China has expanded its influence in recent years is significant too for the Trump administration because this is a region that the US has long regarded as its backyard. Yeah, I mean President Xi inaugurated this deep sea port about 40 miles north of Peru

Starting point is 02:41:04 before the meeting today and that I think port about 40 miles north of Peru before the meeting today and that I think was really sort of symbolic of the way the Chinese have spread their economic influence into what is almost sort of the United States backyard and a real sign of their growing influence in the region and something that clearly the United States is going to be very much aware of. This whole summit was a big F-U to America. They did it in Peru. Oh, this is our new port. And it was not Joe Biden who attended. It was Daddy Longlegs. They put him in the back of the family photo and he towered above everybody once again. This is not Joe Biden. They're sending some imposter out and this guy, I mean, this must be his

Starting point is 02:41:50 farewell tour because he's out of a gig. And I have a feeling that, you know, who's going to pay him to still show up and do stuff after the transition, he'll probably just be out of a job and then they'll have to let us know that the real Joe Biden is dead. Well, that's always possible too. I mean, this is clearly a farce. I have one clip on the same thing. There's thoughts with a Y for some reason.

Starting point is 02:42:21 I don't know why I got that in there. Thoughts on the Peru meetup. Meetup. Hi, thanks for some reason. I don't know why I got that in there. Thoughts on the Peru meetup? Meetup. Hi, thanks for having me. It won't hold any value for the US. It'll be just the opposite. It's bad optics for the US. It's great optics for China, but I don't see, barring any other special arrangement between Biden and Xi Jinping, there's no real benefit for Biden showing up. So you just said it would be the opposite. Tell me more about that. And what do you think this last meeting between Xi and Biden is really about then? Well, I think from Biden's perspective, it's a legacy play, at least. He wants to have one

Starting point is 02:43:00 last shot on the world stage and looking presidential and so forth. But the optics are bad for the US because look at the comparison. China has just provided funding for a $1.3 billion port for Peru. The audience is not just Peru but all of South America and certainly China, and bolstered disease image in China and the rest of the world. And what's the rest of the world seeing? Well, they're seeing an engaged China in South America and they're seeing a weak, ineffective and losing president with minimal cognitive abilities meeting him.

Starting point is 02:43:39 It's bad optics. There's nothing gained here from the US perspective in terms of legacy influence and so forth. And he wasn't even incoherent. I saw him speak. He spoke very well at this conference. Um, but you know, they put him at the back, like the big oaf retard. Sorry to say that's what they do around funny. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:44:00 He gave us funny looks, but it's not him. Anyway, we probably have three more clips. I see you have two that pertain to the I think this will be the last topic and we have similar clips. I'll kick it off with ABC. Tonight, ferocious fighting underway in Kursk, the border area of Russia, Ukrainian forces took over earlier this year, as President Zelensky predicts the war will end faster under the policies of President-elect Trump. 50,000 Russians supported by North Korean soldiers and weaponry now trying to drive Zelensky's men out of Russia and

Starting point is 02:44:34 the Russians also advancing on the front lines inside Ukraine in the eastern Donbass and northeastern Kharkiv regions. But in a new interview Zelensky saying for us a just peace is very important. So there'd be no feeling that we lost our best people for the sake of an injustice imposed upon us. The war will end, but there's no exact date. But Trump has vowed to end the war quickly. We're going to work very hard on Russia and Ukraine. It's got to stop. Russia and Ukraine's got to stop.

Starting point is 02:45:04 But for now, Russian attacks on civilian areas incessant as Ukraine Readies to negotiate with Trump Above all Ukraine won't security guarantees, but at what cost? Nice little Nat Pop in there ABC Yeah, as Zelensky is telling everybody and by the way, the Ukrainian government has said, you get this peace deal done or you're out. Because he's not even president anymore. They don't have a president. They've fought for it.

Starting point is 02:45:32 He canceled the democratic elections. Yes, democracy. Democracy must live on. I do have one other topic. I do want to play the, of the clips I had, the only really good one is the wow Russian gas story. And Russia halted... Sorry.

Starting point is 02:45:47 And I was just going to say I do want to play the M-PAK story. Okay, Russian gas story first. And Russia halted gas supplies to Austria today in a dispute over payments, but was still pumping steady volumes to Europe via Ukraine for the short term. Here's that story. Russia halted gas deliveries to Austria on Saturday, hours after Vienna said Moscow had given notice it would cut off flows.

Starting point is 02:46:11 But Russian state-owned gas giant Gazprom continued to pump steady volumes to Europe via Ukraine. Austrian Chancellor Karl Neyhammer said on Friday Austria was prepared. We will not let ourselves be blackmailed by anyone, he said, not even Russian President Vladimir Putin. Moscow's gas flows to Europe are soon to end. One of the last main routes, a Soviet-era pipeline via Ukraine, is due to shut down at the end of this year. Supply to Austria was through a transit agreement that Ukraine had with Gazprom, a deal that Ukraine said it decided not to extend, aiming to

Starting point is 02:46:49 deprive Russia of profits that Ukraine says helped to finance the war against it. Austrian energy company OMV said it had been preparing for the eventual cut off of Russian gas and can serve its customers by importing gas via Germany, Italy and the Netherlands. On Saturday Austria's energy regulator E-Control said Gazprom's deliveries to OMV had stopped, adding that prices and supplies to Austrian customers were steady. Russia, which before the Ukraine war was the biggest single supplier of natural gas to Europe, has lost almost all of its European customers, as the EU tries to reduce its dependence. Moscow will now only supply significant gas volumes to Hungary and Slovakia.

Starting point is 02:47:31 The US has become the world's top gas producer and is expected to expand production. Drill baby drill. There you go. So the only place you're going to get cheap energy is going to be Slovakia and Hungary because they're not idiots. Everyone else is going to pay six times as much for, because we had to transport the gas over there on a ship. This is ridiculous.

Starting point is 02:47:57 And meanwhile, of course, Germany had all these nukes. They could have just been go all electric. They could pull that off. But no, no, no. Somehow those guys shut down. These guys are idiots. They're too busy arresting civilians for making fun of their politicians. This was it. They're like they're following the UK.

Starting point is 02:48:17 Arresting people. Oh, you said something mean about the finance minister. Boom, you're arrested. I'm an old dude, some pencher. It's true. Long live America. I smell freedom. It's freedom in the air.

Starting point is 02:48:32 So we have the, just as a heads up for people, although I think this is going to go nowhere, this is the new disease report for this week. Federal health officials are sounding the alarm. They confirm a deadlier form of M-Pox has turned up in California. The CDC announced today the person diagnosed with the disease recently traveled to East Africa where an M-Pox outbreak is ongoing. The patient has undergone treatment and is currently isolating at home. California and the CDC are working to identify any people

Starting point is 02:49:08 who may have come in contact with a patient. M-Pox was previously known as monkeypox. It's a viral disease related to the smallpox virus. It can spread quickly through close contact. People who contract M-Pox will experience fever, chills, tiredness, headache, and muscle weakness. A rash often will accompany those symptoms. And the CDC also confirmed yesterday that an Oregon resident tested positive for avian influenza.

Starting point is 02:49:36 This marks the state's first human case of bird flu. The infected person was linked to a poultry farm in Clackamas County. There, the virus had already been found in 150,000 chickens, according to Oregon's Health Authority. This latest human case in the United States brings this year's total to 52 infections across seven states. There is no evidence of person-to-person transmission so far, though, and a state health official said the risk of avian flu to the general public remains low.

Starting point is 02:50:08 Was this a local California report? Believe it or not, that was NTD. Oh no, I believe it, I believe it. I'm disappointed in NTD, I'm disappointed in all the reporting about MPOX. They are leaving out a very important detail on the reporting. I'm sure you have it for us.

Starting point is 02:50:26 There's a disease that the majority of people who have it in this country are men who have sex with other men. Men who have sex with men. Male to male sexual contact. Men who have sex with men. Male to male sexual contact. Men who have sex with men. Men who have sex with men.

Starting point is 02:50:42 Men who have sex with men. Men who have sex with other men. Men who have sex with men. Men who have sex with men. Men who have sex with men men who have sex with men men who have sex with other men men who have sex with men men who have sex with men men who've had sex with men men who have sex with men where's that what happened to that i don't know seems it seems like it seems like an element of the story it was left out for some reason i don't't like it. If it's spread between men who have sex with men, we need to alert our men who have sex with men. Yeah, well there's a few around. Yeah, on no agenda in the morning. Zildecom meetup reports, end of show mixes and of course a double tip of the day. Why would you go anywhere?

Starting point is 02:51:33 Keep it right here. Lock it in and rip the knob off. Also to... Rip the knob off. Old radio thing. Also we have two nights to bring up on the round table, but first, John will go through a very short list of people of $50 and above who supported the show

Starting point is 02:51:50 for this episode. Yeah, curiously, it starts off with Alan Bean up there. He's a baron. He's in Beaverton, Oregon. He came into 111.11. I didn't get a note from him that I recall. But he's the $50 donor that's right from the very early days said, well, I'm going to give you 50 bucks as long as the show continues to be good.

Starting point is 02:52:11 And he always did every month he would send in $50. And every so often he'd send in a bonus amount because he liked something. So we did something good for him, but nobody else it looks like. Sir Dodd, Friendswood, Texas came in with 105.35. He was overboard for three to four years. Wow. Imagine. Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico, yes, hundred dollars. Kevin McLaughlin, there he is right at the top of the list, the 8008 boob donation. He's the Archduke of Luna lover of America and boobs Jason Shepard in Trinidad, Colorado also 8008 and demands four more years sir Rick in Arlington, Washington

Starting point is 02:52:56 6996 Stephen Tucker and Venango Nebraska 5547 he misses the clippity clop We all do she's. She's a goner. James Edmondson in South... She's going to be very prominent in the end of show mix. Yes, true. James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, 5510. For Scott Brinkley in North Canton, Ohio, 5272.

Starting point is 02:53:24 Natalie Martin in Snohomish, Washington 5272 Sir Economic Hitman in Tomball, Texas 5001 Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut 50 bucks oh these are all 50 bucks all four of them yeah Easy Landscapes Michael Perrot in Salem, Oregon, Philip Ballew in Louisville, Kentucky, Chris Lewinsky, I guess there's more than four, Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta, because here's Samuel Dank in Lincoln, Nebraska, it's a birthday call out for his son.

Starting point is 02:53:56 He also wants a jobs karma forum, he says it's hard out here for a handyman. You'd think that handymen would be, or people doing it all themselves these days? Well, maybe in Nebraska they are, rather than California they're not. And last on our list is Sir Jerry Winginroth in Sagas, California. That's a $50 donor. I want to thank all these people for making show 1713 day. A reality we could have done better, but we'll do better in the next show, I hope.

Starting point is 02:54:25 And thank you to anyone who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity. Additionally, we wanna thank all of our sustaining donors who go to noagendameetups.com and give us any donation in recurring format, any amount, any frequency, it's all up to you. It is value for value. We give you the value.

Starting point is 02:54:42 No plus bonus packages, no bundles, no nothing, just pure premium content all the way for value. We give you the value. No plus bonus packages. No bundles. No nothing. Just pure premium content all the way for you. Thank you for supporting us here at episode 1713. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yes! You've got karma. NoAgendaDonations.com Karma. of show mixers. Also birthdays Jasmine McMahon wishes her son Ryan a happy one. He turned nine on the 15th and Samuel Dank says happy birthday to his son Joseph. Just got some jobs karma for him. Turned 14 on November 16th. Happy birthday from everybody here at

Starting point is 02:55:34 the best podcast in the universe. No title changes. We do have one night. It's a layaway night. That would be Matt Bartlett who says greetings. I write to claim a night here on a layaway night. That would be Matt Bartlett who says greetings. I write to claim a nighthood on my layaway plan. Please name me Sir Matt the Bart, night troll of the diminished state. To explain the troll part of that title, I am usually a lurker, but I recently came to learn from you guys that a troll is actually a higher status than a lurker or a spook, which is a monetized lurker.

Starting point is 02:56:03 The diminished state part of the claim has multiple meanings prior to 2024 election. I thought our future was not so shiny. Post 2024 elections, it reflects the hope for smaller future government. I live in Michigan, a diminished state. Started listening when I heard Adam on Rogan in January of 22 and started my layaway plan after listening to your first podcast shortly afterwards. I am not a douchebag value for value. And he says, could I have some retirement Karma? Of course you can. You've got Karma.

Starting point is 02:56:40 And you might as well bring him right up with the sword for me. And you've got, oh, that's a nice that's pretty look at this one whoa You have completed your journey with a layaway night status all the way it's same as any old night We bring you right up I'm very proud to pronounce the KB as sir Matt the Bart night troll of the diminished state for you, sir. We have hookers and blow.

Starting point is 02:57:06 We got prostitutes and cigars, rent boys and Chardonnay, which is tasty. Diet soda and video games. You might be into that. Redheads and Rize, organic macaroni and plasticizers, cowgirls and coffin varnishes, very tasty. Ruben Estlum and Rose, Geisha, the sake, Vodka, Manila,

Starting point is 02:57:22 Bong, Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider, and Escort, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, breast milk and pablum, or, ba-da-ba-da-ba, mutton and mead. NoagendaRings.com as a ring sizing guide on that website along with the address and it comes with wax which you can use to impress your signet ring to seal your important correspondence and of course a certificate of authenticity. Congratulations, welcome to the round table our brand new knight sir Matt the Bart right here on the No Agenda Show. No Agenda Meetups Yeah the No Agenda Meetups is where you can meet your fellow producers. You connect with them. Connection is protection.

Starting point is 02:58:11 We all know it. It's true. They are your first responders in an emergency. You want to have these people in your life. Guaranteed, once you go to Meetup, you will want to go to another one, noagendameetups.com. Sir Daniel runs that site and you can add your Meetups there. You can find them, search by area, by zip code, by country. We finally got the Bastrop County Meetup Report

Starting point is 02:58:32 from Dame Slamy. We couldn't figure out what had gone wrong with her email, but she sent it again. And the Bastrop Locals Meetup was small but mighty in attendance were Black Dame Loca and her keeper, my dude, Sir Dude-and-Chick, Dude-a-chink, Dude-a-chink, Sir Brian with an I, Sir Julian, Duke of Bastrop, Jim and John, and we hit another guy in the mouth.

Starting point is 02:58:52 Sir Brian was supposed to help me with an audio report, but we both forgot. Apologies if anyone's got the title wrong. It was a great evening of connection and celebration. Long live the Bastrop region of Gitmo Nation. Love has lit Dame Slammy. And here's a report from Colorado. Gathering of the tribes, Colorado meetup. The hell are we gonna do with all these eggs? Colorado Care Bearer having the best time at O'Malley's,

Starting point is 02:59:14 historic O'Malley's in Palmer Lake. And this is M. Andrew Jones. O'Malley's rocks. This is Jessica in the morning. This is Dame Melevation. This is Dame Elevation. In the morning we're back. Josh Ascension from North Aurora just checking in to see how everything is going in the hill country.

Starting point is 02:59:32 TooManyEggs.com. No! My resume looks like shit. What the hell am I going to do? Call Linda Lou Paakkin! Linda Lou! That's what I love about the No Agenda Nation community. Here's a report from Minneapolis. Ryan Heck here reporting on the Minnesota wellness check held Saturday, November 16th, 2024 at O'Brien's Pub in Shakopee, Minnesota.

Starting point is 02:59:58 We had an incredible turnout of 18 wonderful human resources, which proved that connection truly is protection. Go podcasting. This is Eric, not PP. This is Aaron Rourke, in the morning. Sir Derek, not the smoke. This is Christina, in the morning. Hey Vanessa, in the morning, having a great time.

Starting point is 03:00:20 This is Mark, I voted for Trump because the world doesn't deserve Tim Walls. Dane Jesse Lee, sorry about the audio bro. Yes, Kevin in the morning. This is Linnea in the morning. Dr. Hammer in the morning. Whit Ringstrom in the morning. Eric Peepee. Baronette Sir Eagle Eye.

Starting point is 03:00:39 TooManyEggs.com. Tom in the morning. Katy Turney in the morning printing John John C. Dvorak's money. Hey, remember to tip your servers and to get them on the Meetup reports as well. Springfield, Missouri, come on in. In the morning, John and Adam, this is Dustin coming from Bears Sports Bar and Grill

Starting point is 03:00:58 in Springfield, Missouri. We just had a great Meetup and I'm gonna pass the phone around and everybody's gonna say hello. Hey, in the morning, this is Brincomania. This is Sir Dellsaber. This is Amanda Dellsaber. In the morning.

Starting point is 03:01:10 In the morning, this is Brenda. Reverend Dr. Pfeiffer, in the morning guys. In the morning to y'all. The Okhala Glass Bottom Boat Tour meetup is underway. That was, that's the right the Reiki princess let me see yes that's taking place right now apparently the glass bottom boat is a big thing down there and they're also going to have lunch later the set well they probably already had lunch they're already done I guess send us a meter

Starting point is 03:01:40 per port the Black Hills no agenda meetup is underway in Spearfish, South Dakota as we speak at Crow Peak Brewing, the TooManyEggs.com, Keyed, New Hampshire meetup underway. We have the Land of the Morning Calm meetup. That's in Korea, so they probably already finished up. I hope we get a meetup report for them in Busan. On Thursday, the Bitcoin Beach Meetup. Oh, that'll be in the Sunset Bar at Elzante El Salvador. Pablo, make sure you get everybody recorded.

Starting point is 03:02:10 Send us a meetup report. The No Agenda New York City number seven at Bunk Bar Cafe, New York, New York. Yep, there's still producers hanging out there. North Georgia Monthly Meetup, six o'clock. Cherry Street Brewing on Thursday. Alpharetta, Georgia and Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday will be on Thursday, of course, 6 o'clock, Cherry Street Brewing on Thursday, Alpharetta, Georgia, and Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday will be on Thursday, of course, 7 o'clock

Starting point is 03:02:29 at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. Just a few of the Noagenta meetups taking place all around Gitmo Nation. Connectionist protection, go to noagentameetups.com. If you can't find a meetup near you, start one yourself. It's always awesome. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days

Starting point is 03:02:48 You wanna be where you won't be, triggered or held alame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party Man, I gotta tell ya, I fell down on the job. I hope you have ISOs. I only have one and it probably sucks. Play it. Hey, glad to be here.

Starting point is 03:03:11 Told ya. That's a beginning of show thing, that's not an end. I know, it's no good. I've told ya. Alright, let's start. I do have enough. Let's start with the bonus ISO, which is the ISO no agenda one. Okay.

Starting point is 03:03:24 Download it now. No agenda. Where's that from? agenda one. Okay. Download it now. No agenda. Where's that from? Where is it from? Download it now. No agenda. Oh, it's from lefties. It's one of the Australian things.

Starting point is 03:03:36 Guy's bragging about his own podcast and he says no agenda as though he has no agenda, but he's not. Oh, that's no good. It was, it was, it was muddy anyway. Yeah. Oh, try this. good. It was muddy anyway. Yeah. Okay, try this. Cannot do better. We can't do better than that. Nope.

Starting point is 03:03:51 Okay. That's a very good one. Strong contender. Yeah, it's clear. And now we have what was. What was that all about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, reasonable. And then the wow. Wow, best show ever. Not bad, not bad, but come on.

Starting point is 03:04:12 We can't do better than that, nope. That's the sh- that's the- that's an end of show I so have ever heard one. I think it's great. Yep. Yeah, I think it's worth it. And now ladies and gentlemen, are you ready for a double tipper? Get ready, it's John's Tip of the Day! Greetings guys, for you and me, just a tip with JCB and sometimes Adam. Alright, two tips. John, you're up.

Starting point is 03:04:37 So I'm giving you the priority today and I'm using a contributed tip which I think is a great one. One of our producers sent this in and it's a product you can get on Amazon and elsewhere. It's called drop stop. It's a, it's a rubbery thing that you stick in your car between the seat and the council. And it goes over the, um, drop seatbelt collector and it keeps you from dropping junk down that area. Here's why I like this idea. Because some time ago, a couple years ago, I was eating an ice cream bar.

Starting point is 03:05:14 Now, it's like a popsicle stick, but it's an ice cream with a stick. It has a stick, right, with ice cream on it. In the Lexus? In the 30-year year old Lexus. Yeah Yes, exactly. I try I always say I'm never gonna eat food in this car, but I always do you did Yeah, and so I did something wrong I bit it and a chunk of the ice cream fell and as I was trying to catch it I actually bumped it knocked it and went right between the seat in the council down

Starting point is 03:05:44 Oh, no, so and I and it went right between the seat and the council down. Oh no. So, and I got ice cream down at the bottom there. I'm thinking, oh no, and I tried to dig it out and I got my hand down there and I got some of the ice cream with the chocolate coating and it was making a huge mess and it was just a disaster. This product drop stop is the way to go. Available on Amazon. It's called drop stop. A drop stop.

Starting point is 03:06:07 Yeah. It could, it could catch your, I mean, if you, if you drop, it would have saved a hassle with me in this melted ice cream. Yeah. If you drop your joint, you'll catch it. I mean, all kinds of important stuff. Well, in your case. Not anymore.

Starting point is 03:06:19 Not, it's almost, it'll be, it'll be two years. Uh, it's been two years. It's been two years. Two years without any, even vaping? No, vaping, but no tobacco, no weed. Two years. Probably Thanksgiving. Yeah, almost Thanksgiving. Well, my tip, I think this is a banger.

Starting point is 03:06:41 I've had this stuff for a long time, but never had, cause I, you know, I'm cooking, I sometimes like, we'll get something out of the oven, you know, like hit the grate or something, little kitchen burns, they happen all the time, at least with unprofessional chefs like myself. But on Wednesday, Tina was making something, she had a pan in the oven, you know,

Starting point is 03:07:06 just a regular old pan with a steel handle, whatever it's made of. And she took it out and then I can't remember, I don't know what she was doing when she got distracted and she grabbed the handle full on to pick it up and move it. And I'm in the studio and I hear, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I mean, she was like just, and I knew exactly what I said. Oh my God, she burned herself. And I run to the drawer

Starting point is 03:07:34 and she's on her way. And I smear immediately on her hand, on the palm of her hand and her fingers, which were, I mean, this would have been a severe burn. I, I smear on it the Ching Wan Hung soothing herbal balm for burns. Now I've had this in my travel kit. I have it in the kitchen. It's a little tube again, Chin Wan Hung. I don't know how it works. How do you spell it? I don't know how it works. How do you spell it? Chin, as in a Ching, I'm sorry, Ching,

Starting point is 03:08:05 a C-H-I-N-G, Wan, W-A-N, Hung, as in me. And you can get a little tube for 9.99, I think, on Amazon, wherever you want to get it. It's available everywhere. I have no idea how it works, but you put that on a burn. This was a severe burn. Put that on the burn right away.

Starting point is 03:08:24 You got to do it right away. The pain goes away and there's no scarring. It's unbelievable, this stuff is magic. I'm getting some. I don't know what's in it, I don't know how it works. Who cares? I mean, this is truly, everybody needs this in their kitchen. You should have it for any type of burn,

Starting point is 03:08:45 as long as you get it on quick. And I've been using this for years, never thought about it until, this would have been a bad one. You know how you, if you ever grab the handle of a pan out of the oven, I mean, that will leave a scar, a burn, and it'll be painful for days.

Starting point is 03:09:03 Nothing, nothing at all. This is magic stuff. Okay. And that is your Double Tip of the Day. I can't believe how good it is. Only on your No Agenda show. J.C.D. and sometimes Adam. Go to tipoftheday.net or noagendafun.com to learn more about these tips of the day. They're handy around the house. I'm just saying. Could save you. Could save you in big ways. Alright, we do have some good end-of-show mixes coming up.

Starting point is 03:09:44 Dee's Laughs, David Kekta, celebrated his birthday on Friday. Jeffrey Crocker, who's kind of new to the mix, we love Jeffrey. And for those who wanted more clippity clop, yeah, she will be represented perfectly here. Also, coming up next on your modern podcast app or trollroom.io, we have, let me see, we've got, oh, Canary Cry News Talk, yes, those guys are good. They're also value for value, support those guys, value for value.

Starting point is 03:10:13 We will return on Thursday with more media deconstruction for you, not part of the culture war economy, no, we just give you a service that keeps you calm and collected and helps you get outside and smell the freedom. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Starting point is 03:10:31 Dan from Northern Silicon Valley, where we give a shout out to the Oregon Ducks. I'm John C. Dvorak. Meet us here again on Thursday for more No Agenda deconstruction. Remember us at NoAgendaDonations.com. Until then, adios mofos, a hui hui, and such! Black Lives Matter 2.0, watermelon emoji symbol will help with the clown world show. I didn't know melons were indigenous to the land, to my knowledge Herbie's the only watermelon

Starting point is 03:11:00 man. Signs of free Palestine is why Israel took it. What did they have to lose? Thrown out so many countries, just look at it. It's been a year since Bibi was so-called surprised. Scattering Palestinians from homelands severing family ties. Two US assassination attempts. Israel keeps on bombing neighbors, not feeling biblically heaven sent. What kind of China spies like us are really here?

Starting point is 03:11:24 Legit Chinese police stations in Toronto, funny like psychic. not feeling biblically heaven sent what kind of china spies like us are really here legit chinese police stations in toronto funny like psychic shout out to my fellow libras to my vitiligo peoples call them winnie harlow's or my zebras there will be concerted efforts to distort and pervert kamala harris who she is, what she stands for, what she's done. I mean, look, I mean, the crazy story about me running a child trafficking operation out of a big pizzeria. Don't laugh. Don't laugh. It was a huge story. And it got one young man in North Carolina to get in his car with his assault rifle and drive up to liberate these non-existent children and shoot up a pizzeria in Washington, D.C.

Starting point is 03:12:11 This is dangerous stuff. It starts online, often on the dark web, it migrates, it's picked up by the pro-Trump media, it's then reported on by everybody else, which makes sure it has about 100% coverage, and people believe it. So I don't know what it's going to be, but it will be something and we'll have to work very, very hard to make sure that it is exposed as the lie that it is. So anybody who's taken civics understands that when you control all three branches of government with a political party, it's much more challenging to have checks and balances and so

Starting point is 03:12:47 if there's an unlawful order given to the united states military i expect that uniformed military will not carry out unlawful orders the whole stuff is everywhere i feel like i'm walking on eggshells i heard that all the time men and women are different I feel like I'm walking on eggshells. I heard that all the time. Eggshell. Men and women are different. Get in there and shut them down. I mean, did you ever think you'd see literal Hitler in the Oval Office with the President of the United States? I mean, you know what I see in all this? Democrats,

Starting point is 03:13:26 that would really, it would... Men and women are different. It was the underpinning of the democratic campaign that we're doing that Donald Trump is a fascist. I feel like I'm walking on eggshells. The intelligence community needs to take their focus away from the American people and place it where it belongs on the Chinese Communist Party.

Starting point is 03:13:52 Get there and shut them down. I appreciate that people are having a hard time. Me too. I work for a living. I'm a working person. You know? I literally just a living. I'm a working person. You know? I literally just work here.

Starting point is 03:14:10 I'm sorry. I-I-I appreciate that people are having a hard time. Me too. I know it's hard out there. I'm not tense. I just want to say that. But I also know as it turns out I'm just not normal and it's something I come to accept. And thank you all for watching.

Starting point is 03:14:30 The truth of the matter is, I am fundamentally a selfish person. Let me just talk a little bit about you and the money. Okay. In 2016, Variety reported that Whoopi's annual salary as a host on the talk show was between five and six million dollars. I appreciate that people are having a hard time.

Starting point is 03:14:53 Me too. I come to work, I smile, and then I go home. Oh that middle-aged man Oh mighty God, my honey I know people always say you never include the people at home. Well now I am. Thank you too. My impression is that Whoopi can always find very profitable work. The best podcast in the universe!

Starting point is 03:15:34 Adios, mofa. Dvorak.org slash NA. We can't do better than that, nope.

No Agenda - 1713 - "Lipless Wonder"

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