No Agenda - 1714 - "Octocopter"

Starting point is 00:00:00 Who's Dynamite? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, November 21st, 2024. This is your award-winning KidModNation Media assassination episode 1714. This is No Agenda. Available for AG and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we've got Netanyahu, ICBMs, Matt Gaetz, what's going on?

Starting point is 00:00:29 I'm John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill. In the morning. I'm glad you asked breaking at this hour, John. Breaking at this hour, Noah Jenner News can exclusively reveal that Matt Gaetz has withdrawn from the Attorney General position. Yes, as expected. Yes. Gee, didn't we say that would happen? Well, here's the scenario the way I see it.

Starting point is 00:00:59 Matt, they definitely wanted to get Rubio in and they have to replace him with somebody. As a Senator? As Senators. So you replace him with Matt Gaetz. But Matt Gaetz says, hey, I got this investigation going on. It's going to be an embarrassment. You're not going to be able to put me into Rubio's spot because he wants Rubio. He wants Matt Gaetz to counter,

Starting point is 00:01:26 and you're gonna see this, I guarantee you're gonna see them on the same committees, Matt Gaetz and the creep from California, the turtle head guy. Oh, oh, who slept with the Chinese spy. No, no, no, that's a congressman, we're talking about senators, our new senators. Schiff. Schiff, Adam Schiff. Schiff, okay. So they need a guy to argue with Adam Schiff, so they're going to want to put Gates in there. So now Gates can't get the job with this investigation

Starting point is 00:01:55 going on. So here's the deal. Okay, here's, and I think Trump, because of the four years he's been spending scheming, he can come up with these things faster than he used to. He goes, okay, we're gonna pick you for attorney general, you can quit the house before they release the report, there'll be a big kerfluffle, and then all of a sudden, just before all shit hits the fan, you quit the denomination, go back to Florida, you're not in the house anymore, and then you can be moved into Rubio's spot

Starting point is 00:02:22 before anybody knows what the hell's going on, and you're gonna be the next senator from Florida. I like the theory. I will add a little twist to that, something that I thought would come up in the combo, but it didn't, because I immediately tried to get a clip of Matt Gaetz resigning. Oh, I'm sure everyone's all over this,

Starting point is 00:02:39 breaking, breaking at this hour. And I couldn't get a clip, but I did get this. It's unclear what happens next though, to your question of does it matter because Matt Gaetz remember was elected to serve in the 119th Congress. We are right now in the 118th Congress. The 119th Congress doesn't take power until January and when Matt Gaetz resigned he said that he does not intend to take his seat in the 119th Congress. But, he didn't resign from that Congress because he can't, because that Congress doesn't exist yet. So if Matt Gaetz wanted to come back to Congress and serve in his seat come January, in theory, he could try to do that.

Starting point is 00:03:23 We do not know if he wants to. I'm checking in with sources close to Gates right now to figure out that exact question. What is next here for Matt Gates? But if he wanted to join Congress again come January, he technically could, Diane. Oh, technically. Oh, yeah, he technically could. So you know what? You know what?

Starting point is 00:03:44 It doesn't matter. It's fun. Everybody can run around with their hair on fire, talking about it. And the culture war economy is, oh boy, oh, the Trump, I have a super cut. I have a super cut of hair on fire. This week, Trump has been revealing his cabinet, chock full of loyalists, sycophants and perennial bootlickers. That is literally the worst pick in the world for Attorney General. Significant concerns, horror even. Somebody said to me today, I can't think of any single individual who would be more damaging to public health than RFK.

Starting point is 00:04:21 He's not going to receive a very warm welcome from the career folks there. We've seen people today, our fellow reporters crying, hugging in the hallways. Pete Hegseth, Trump's proposed Secretary of Defense, defends war criminals and displays tattoos associated with white nationalism and Christian nationalism. Completely incompetent, who most American business owners wouldn't hire to run a taco stand. The former and future president is moving quickly to fill the crown car and round out his cabinet before he changes his mind and fires them all. If you've been accused of being weird and dangerous, it seems like Trump is doubling down on that.

Starting point is 00:04:58 So television, I'll just call it what it is, television has not taken a moment, not a beat, not just let's step back, well a couple have, but let's just step back for a second and evaluate what has happened here. We failed in our mission to discredit Hitler, to prevent him from ascending his throne because he's literally a king now, and it doesn't matter. Let's just keep it going. And you know what? People are falling right in. Oh, it's great. Oh, we have more stuff to put on social media. Ah, it's groovy. So much is overflowing to new social media.

Starting point is 00:05:34 To blue sky. Blue sky. I had a thing about blue sky. This was funny. Where was it? Here it is. Blue sky safety. They have was it? Here it is blue sky safety

Starting point is 00:05:53 They have a safety team over there John just so you know if you go to blue sky if you leave the evil X and go Go to blue sky. They have a safety team and they said in the past 24 hours We've received more than 42 Thousand reports an all-time high for one day. We're receiving about 3,000 reports an hour. To put that into context, in all of 2023, oh, and then it cuts off for some reason. Why is this? So they didn't even receive that many reports in all of 2023. Yeah. I mean, it's including child sexual abuse material.

Starting point is 00:06:35 I bet there's all kinds of stuff in it because they have AI doing most of the work over there. So it's going to be a disaster. Now that the other thing is it's, I found interesting with somebody reposted on Twitter, of course, the thing about Twitter is that, you know, all these maniacs just grab stuff from every place else and post it on Twitter. You got, you like TikTok? Yeah, we got it for you. You like blue sky? We got it.

Starting point is 00:06:55 There you go. Put it on Twitter. And so they put it on Twitter. It's like a big aggregator. A bunch of Rob Reiner, you know, has always been threatening to quit Twitter. I think he still has an account there, but he now he said, now he went blue sky, blue sky. So he goes to blue sky. So they find a tweet or tweet or whatever, a posting on blue sky from Rob Reiner, who's now complaining that the kind of creeps that are on Twitter are now over on

Starting point is 00:07:17 blue sky, giving him grief. Gee surprise. The hate is so much. I can't stand it. Get off of all of that. None of is so much. I can't stand it. Get off of all of that. None of it's good. These are digital towers of Babel filled with AI slopping their stairwells. It's all no good. But everybody, including my friends, all in.

Starting point is 00:07:39 Oh yeah. Oh, Megan Kelly. Oh, transgender bathroom in the Capitol. It goes on and on and on. But transgender. Oh, transgender bathroom in the Capitol. It goes on and on and on. Transgender. Oh, I'll get to that. But that's a classic. In a rare moment, Lulu over there at CNN, Lourdes,

Starting point is 00:07:55 but everyone calls her Lulu. She had a rare moment. I don't think she realized. Who is Lulu? She's, we talked about her. She's the possible spook Lourdes She possible spook is CNN

Starting point is 00:08:16 What am I huh? What do I write that down for an idea? Yeah, come on. We talked about her Lulu I'll get it for you Garcia Navarro Course also known as Lulu. I had never, don't ring a bell. So Lulu, well, they call her Lulu. Lulu's on the, the Burnett woman's show, six million dollars a year. Yeah. Six million dollars a year, we're told.

Starting point is 00:08:48 And, uh, and she has a rare moment of perfectly, perfectly describing Trump's appointee strategy, which we deconstructed two shows ago, I think, of having a front person who makes all the noise, the lightning rod, and have someone in the background who does all the work. So Perfect is the first buddy, Elon, also known as the modern day Edison and Vivek, I should say Vivek. Vivek as in cake. People keep saying, you guys, your O is so precise about pronunciation and words you shouldn't say, but it's Vivek, so you should say it right. Yes, this is right. Well, you know, we've trained our producers to be the way we are, which is sticklers for the sort of thing. So now they become sticklers and they give us grief.

Starting point is 00:09:32 There you go. So listen to Lulu. As she figures it out, I still don't think she realizes exactly what she's figured out. So look, take a step back. There's a lot of people who get put into these jobs who haven't overseen much, right? So I'm not going to say the fact that he hasn't overseen something that large is disqualifying in and of itself. But the history here is relevant.

Starting point is 00:09:51 The history is relevant. When I was listening right now, I thought that what was going to be announced was Dr. Phil was going to be the Surgeon General. So at least we're not there yet. Yet. But listen, what is happening here is this. We are now in Donald Trump's TV show. This is the world we're living in now. He is casting the characters that he wants to play in his administration. The point behind this is actually a serious one. They're not

Starting point is 00:10:22 just good-looking people. They're very effective communicators who actually are recognizable to the American public. If you think about why Donald Trump thinks he won this election, it's because he was able to have a consistent message, people listen to him. He is recognizable and he was palling around with people like Elon Musk. He is putting people in these positions that People know and that can sell his policies. So whatever he does there's gonna be people who are able to go out Into the Manosphere into podcasts on cable news and talk about it in a way that people will

Starting point is 00:11:00 And I think that's what he's up to. So I'd like that she says Donald Trink, Donald Trink, Donald Trump thinks he won because of this strategy. I don't know why she thinks he won, but this is, this is the strategy. Absolutely. Well, if she's a spook, he won because this whole thing was a scam and it was set up to win it had nothing to do with whatever strategy. And she knew that. that's why she said that By the way, are we in the Manosphere?

Starting point is 00:11:29 We're in the Manosphere Welcome to the Manosphere Manosphere I wrote that down as a show title Manosphere. I think it might have been overused by now. I mean, yeah Manosphere I'll put have been overused by now. I mean, yeah, you know sphere. Oh, I'll put it down as a possibly Manosphere. So yeah Abby at your girl Abby Abby Philip you had you had clips of her on the last show That'd be Philip from CNN Yeah

Starting point is 00:12:13 Yeah in. Yeah, the black newsreader. Yeah. So she was at the Harvard School Institute of Politics on the panel, on the panel. And she's- Boy, you really got to be, I don't want to say have to be hard up for attention. I've never been advised if the Harvard. Well, of course you wouldn't go. Of course I would. If do I get a per diem? Do I get travel? No, well, no, then I'm not going. If you're not going to pay for my travel expenses and per diem,

Starting point is 00:12:37 I'm not going to go. You should get an honorarium at least not a per diem. That would be good. So she also comes very close to understanding what's going on. And on one hand, I'm delighted because I love seeing people waking up and, you know, kind of like Anna Kasparian and Jillian Michaels. I love seeing these people wake up. On the other hand, it'll ruin the show if they figure it out. I have observed. On the other hand, it'll ruin the show if they figure it out.

Starting point is 00:13:05 I know exactly what you're thinking and I agree with the basic thought, but the hordes of people that aren't going to figure it out are going to be the Rob Reiner's and the rest of them are always going to be around to keep the show going. I have observed that elites increasingly talk only to each other and come to believe that because there is consensus among them, that that consensus is shared broadly. And there are not enough voices that are confident enough to disagree and to present alternatives. And we, as a society,

Starting point is 00:13:55 need to find better ways to uplift divergent voices, otherwise we will be victims of group think. And there is a there is an activist class, I think this is particularly acute in the Democratic Party right now, there is an activist class in the Democratic Party that is multiracial, multiethnic, it is diverse. But it's an activist class. And so because of that, they're not able to see outside of that. And Republicans had the same problem before

Starting point is 00:14:35 Trump. The Heritage Foundations of the world, etc. They had the same issue, fundamental issue, but Trump kind of broke them out of it. Democrats are in that place now where they have to break out of it. Yeah. They need someone to break them out of it. Not that they have one, but they need to be broken out of that elitist culture. I love the self-realization. I think it's, it's, it's healthy.

Starting point is 00:15:03 It's good for them. Why do they need anyone to break them out of it? They were doing fine with it. They're still doing fine with it. You just want the show. They lost an election. I mean, I'm going to take their side. Okay.

Starting point is 00:15:15 They lost an election barely. It could have gone either way, as everyone noticed. Yeah, they did win everything, but it's beside the point. Uh, they'll be corrected in the midterms and the Democrats will be right back where they were more or less, at least they'll have enough people in Congress in one house or the other to stop Trump and then they can impeach him again. Cause it'd be good to be a third time would be good. And, and the elitist approach that they're using, which is the right

Starting point is 00:15:45 approach because they're elitists. If you're an elitist, it's not like you're going to change. Well, there's elitist Republicans. Yeah, there's tons of them. Yeah. So what are you saying? I don't think that anything, I think the few people that are on the fringes that are, you know, that for some reason or other like Julie,

Starting point is 00:16:09 Jillian Michaels is a good example that just got fed up with one thing or another or Kasparian who only got fed up because she got condemned for being a racist when she wasn't. If it wasn't for those little moments of mistakes made by the elitists, because they're idiots, they're not elitists at all, really. You want elitists, you got Jacob Rothschild, there's an elitist. Is he still alive, didn't he just die?

Starting point is 00:16:37 No, he died, he died, unfortunately. But the Rothschild family, that's real elitism. It's not, and they don't act like this. These guys are phonies, they're's real elitism it's not you know and they're and they're not they don't act like this they're not These guys are phonies. They're just academic elitists and they're full of crap and they're not gonna change. Why would they? What no, no you're right I have a podcast clip if you want to hear some dumb I have a new category in my clip folder called dumb dems, dumb dems. Dumb dems, is it dumb dems?

Starting point is 00:17:08 And I'm not against, I'm not against anyone's political views per se, but these are dumb dems. And this is the Slate Political Gabfest podcast. And so they're discussing this- Slate? Yes, from Slate. Washington Post. Yes.

Starting point is 00:17:24 And so they're discussing this very Is it from Slate? Yes, from Slate. Washington Post. Yes. So they're discussing this very issue and it's incredible that the young woman who is going to explain what is going on, she has the most dumb-dem vocal fry I have ever heard as she explains this. If you need to interrupt and stop it, let me know. Nat. Emily, last question on this topic. Do you think, as some have argued, I think Ezra Klein has argued this, that the Democrats are a party that roots out heretics and doesn't look for converts? Or is that actually true? Does the party need to have a kind of broad,

Starting point is 00:18:02 encompassing, welcoming attitude that it doesn't have? I think that right now the party is associated with a lot of purity tests. Mike Pascha of the podcast, The Gist, wrote a piece in the Atlantic this week comparing the Democratic Party to HR departments, talking about them as being the fussy place of compliance and language policing and rules, none of which is a whole lot of fun even though it's sometimes necessary. I thought that was a good metaphor for capturing what doesn't feel broadly welcoming, I think, to a lot of people. As we're thinking about this today and I was writing, how do we describe deportation policies? My natural instinct, maybe it's because I'm badly trained on decades of

Starting point is 00:18:45 false language, is to say illegal immigrants or even illegal aliens. And I'm like, oh, but am I allowed to say that anymore? I better not say that. I should say undocumented. And am I supposed to say undocumented immigrants? Undocumented. Do you see the struggle these people are in? Do you see the torment? The torment? I know. It's great. The torment. People undocumented. They're tormented by their own set of procedures. They have this rule-based party. It's rule-based. Rule-based. And you've got this, this, you've got to do this,

Starting point is 00:19:16 you've got to use pronouns, you've got to do that, yeah, yeah, you've got to wear a badge that says I'm a him, her. You've got to do this. It's all these rules. And it's like the bureaucracy just boiled into a party. People undocumented. I was like, I don't even know what to do. I feel like there's a whole bunch of GadFest listeners who are going to judge me based on whatever language I've used. Obviously, that's a very extremely tiny example, but it did occur to me today.

Starting point is 00:19:45 It's not that tiny. I mean, I think there is to me something troubling about calling a person illegal. Like they now use that. Of course, of course, of course, of course. But I do agree with you that deciding that that means that like you have to excommunicate someone is a different step from hearing it and wondering whether that's really a good idea or not. I had to get the fry in there. The fry. Wow. So now that's all good and fine, but if you are trying to break out of the mold and you may have the other motive such as,

Starting point is 00:20:22 oh my God, they're gonna sell our station. And you're like. And you're. I have a bunch of clips on that by the way. Yeah, I know, I know, I'm leading you into it. Thank you. They're gonna sell the station. I have to, before you go in this,

Starting point is 00:20:36 I tend to turn on CNBC this morning. I wanted to see what was going on anyway. And so they're all freaked out about it because I'll tell you this, if you want to put a name on a list of someone who's going to come out of this, just fine. It's this Kelly Evans woman. Uh, she's the one who's the most talented, uh, presenter on CNBC, uh, personable, very good. Is she the blonde? No, no, no. She's a brunette.

Starting point is 00:21:01 She's black haired. Right, right, right. Yeah. Yeah. She, and she is just, she never flubs, she's fast on her feet, she knows what she's doing. She is a, she should be one of the nightly news anchors. She might be just a bit too young and they may have put a few years on her by putting her in something else, but she's the one who'll come out ahead on this whole thing. Even though you can tell she's worried sick. And they're always at CNBC. And I think CNBC got the short end of this deal because...

Starting point is 00:21:30 Well, you're moving ahead. You're moving ahead too fast. Okay, okay. Go on. Take it. Take it. Yeah, yeah. So first...

Starting point is 00:21:36 Stop me. First, we have to stick with MSNBC, the weakest sister of the bunch. And Joe and Mika went to see President-elect Trump and talk with them. I actually have clips, but I don't think I'll play those because they're just so annoying. And they're like, oh, well, you know, we're not doing this to kiss the ring. Well, yeah, that's not what Rosie O'Donnell thought. So Mika and Joe went down to Mar-a-Lago to kiss the ring. So last time I ever watched Morning Joe.

Starting point is 00:22:05 Oh no. Period. Period. End of statement. Unreal. Unreal. For months you were telling us he's the worst thing that could happen to this country in democracy.

Starting point is 00:22:17 And then you go kiss his ring. Despicable. Despicable you. Both of you. Despicable you. Both of you. Despicable you. So what does she got? A band in the house there? Where's that music coming from?

Starting point is 00:22:32 What is she doing? This is a TikTok video and she's got an orchestra? What is this music? No, she's the kind of woman who has that playing in her Manhattan apartment. Boy, man. Because I helped her. You know, boy man, from the, cause you know, I helped her. You know she has 12 Emmys. Do you know that I helped her get her first job?

Starting point is 00:22:54 Pray tell, now we're all stopped, the show is stopped for a story. Rosie O'Donnell was doing comedy standup at, it was in West Orange, made the name, it's something like Chuckles obviously, I can't remember. Yuck, yuck. I can't remember what the name of it was. And Steve Leeds, who also lived in New Jersey, Steve is the guy who hired me when I was still in Amsterdam.

Starting point is 00:23:23 Steve is still with us, he's a good guy. I talked to him maybe twice a year. And so Steve had seen her. He's like, she would be great for VH1 because MTV owned VH1 as a VJ. And so he brought her in and I had to, I think she, the way it was set up is she would have to interview me and then do some segments and which she did. And you know, she made fun of me and it was kind of cute. And she was back then Rosie O'Donnell had a pretty good stick. It was pretty funny and she got hired for VH1 as a VJ and that's how she started. So I'll take some blame for it.

Starting point is 00:24:07 You should. You should take all the blame. So I'm going to lead you into your clips. First with a little background. So this is about the Comcast spin-off. And here's a, I got this article from where is this? This is from CNBC itself. There you go. So just some data that's in here. Cord cutting continues to impact the traditional TV business. Comcast lost 365,000 customers during the third quarter. The industry overall lost roughly four million traditional paying customers in the first six months of the year. Still, traditional TV networks remain cash cows for media business. Comcast reported in October that third quarter revenue for its media segment, which is comprised of the TV networks, nearly up 37% to $8.23 billion, largely due to the Olympics. Without the Summer Games, revenue was up 5%.

Starting point is 00:25:08 Disney executives recently said, they do not plan to separate their TV networks anytime soon, noting the complexities of doing so, but they kind of would like to do so. So, I got a clip from Bill O'Reilly, who was still a blowhard. I have that clip in my series. Well, can I play it first? The one with Cuomo?

Starting point is 00:25:30 Yeah. You want me to play it now, just since I have it racked up, or do you want to do your series? You know, that's interesting you asked. You have the whole thing? A minute 40. My O'Reilly clip is 2.48. I have the whole thing. Okay, forty. My O'Reilly clip is two forty eight. I have the whole thing. Okay, then why don't you go in? Which is interruptible. You can interrupt it.

Starting point is 00:25:52 Yeah, yeah. Go into your... Do you want me to play that one first? Well, no, because I want to... I have the same clip, but I have the whole... I have a longer version, which may be more... Yeah, but do this... Do your series. Whatever you want to do. I'm glad you brought this up, because I didn't know if I should put the O'Reilly thing at the beginning or I should put it at the end of the series but since you brought it up let's start playing that clip that you talked about. He's on Cuomo on News. Cuomo who is still a dope by the way. He's just a dope. He doesn't know anything.

Starting point is 00:26:21 I think he even says, oh I only know know what the news says. OK, news boy. Exactly. I agree with that. Yes, he's kind of a, he's just a, you know, he's a presentable male. He's just dope. Comcast said, you two, we're going to have to try to mend some cliche fences.

Starting point is 00:26:42 And you two are going to go in there, and you're going to try to. gonna try talking about Joe and Mika here Yes, it's time about Joe Joe and Mika Yeah, yeah, yeah, and if you this clip is interrupted there's a spot where they talk about sunny you host Yeah, yeah, that's important too. That's where you're gonna stop. I think you have you've been yeah Well, you're gonna stop it stop it okay I to tamp it down because Comcast knew the next day they were going to announce that MSNBC is vapor that is a huge meteor story why is it vapor just

Starting point is 00:27:16 because they're putting them in the bill they're spinning off a bunch of spin-off there's no spin-off that see is. It's a spin-off company. There's no spin-off. See, you buy the propaganda, Cuomo. Oh, okay. See what I mean? I'm just saying what's being reported. By the way, I don't know what O'Reilly's talking about here, but there is a spin-off and their executive's moving over and it will be its own entity. It is technically a spin-off.

Starting point is 00:27:40 And what's the name of it? Spinco. No, really? You believe that? Really? Is it called spin- you're kidding me. I'm not kidding you, spinco. That's like NewCo. That means you're dead. So that you're dead when you're spun off into spinco LLC. All right, but what do you know? Yeah I know, but why would you believe what's being reported? You want the real story? Here it comes. Yes, please.

Starting point is 00:28:06 So they're uncoupling their word, Comcast, MSNBC from NBC News. That means MSNBC has no resources at all. None. They're not going to be able to pay these people millions of dollars, racial matter, whatever she's making. NBC News is saying, we don't want you around. Why? Because NBC News's numbers Lester Holt and the Today Show are catastrophe because half the country equates NBC News with MSNBC and they won't watch. So NBC is desperately trying to save the mothership of information and they have to throw MSNBC overboard. They're not putting anything into MSNBC. They want to sell it. So where's Georgie Soros now? Georgie's buying radio stations. You can get MSNBC for nothing. Okay. First of all, weak to say Georgie's

Starting point is 00:28:59 buying radio stations. We know what's really going on there. But the radio station is very different from this MSNBC without the cable network. So that's a little weak from. O'Reilly. You know, you said you had some. I'm going to talk to you like this. Let me tell you, the spin-off of the cable companies are suffering dwindling. Why? Well, that's because that's a very annoying thing he does. This is a, you, you had some comments about Cuomo, I'll have a comment about O'Reilly.

Starting point is 00:29:28 I think he's a blowhard and a prick. Okay. They'll give it to you. They don't want any more of this. Why? Because it's hateful. Why? Not because it's so far left. The whole NBC Comcast hierarchy is far left. But it's hateful. You see, I disagree with this too. I mean, not that they're hateful, but if hateful worked, which it did for a long time, they wouldn't be putting into spinco. They'd be giving him medals, but it's just not working anymore. They hate...

Starting point is 00:30:00 It worked. You know, that's a little history lesson out there. You have to remember that MSNBC, which I had worked for for a while... I was there at the launch. Before they had... Before they had... Before Princess Diana died, that's when it changed. It was kind of a normal... It was Microsoft and MSNBC. It was supposed to be a did change. It was it was kind of a normal it was Microsoft and MSNBC It was supposed to be a tech channel

Starting point is 00:30:28 Yeah, Microsoft NBC yes, yeah, and then eventually NBC just bought Microsoft out but they kept the name and then it became a Kind of a gossipy channel with because of princess died and then it was still was languishing And so they the guy who I have to say he probably made it what it was during the Bush administration was Keith Olbermann. Yes. Good point. He came on with a hateful show.

Starting point is 00:30:57 And he and he's a hateful guy, very hateful, and he he's the one who trained Rachel Maddow. And he mentored her to be the jerk that she is. And she's the one who trained the other guy, the, the, the guy with the glasses. Yeah. Chris Hayes, Chris Hayes. She trained him. So she's like third generation of hater.

Starting point is 00:31:20 Chris the queen. And, and so, um, so, so it has a checkered pass but it really really got its start during the hateful era of Obermann. And I'd just like to say to trolls and I've seen this floating around and also good friends of mine text me this hey Elon might buy MSNBC and then make sure to do a good channel. MSNBC by itself is not worth anything without the distribution. The problem is the cord cutting. That is the problem. You know, what people watch these channels the most right now is on YouTube TV. YouTube TV is the biggest distributor of what used to be cable programming by far. For good reason. Yeah, you get unlimited DVRs. It's cheaper. far for good reason. Yeah, you get unlimited DVRs. It's cheaper as tons of reasons for it.

Starting point is 00:32:12 I don't even know if they're making money on it. I don't think they care. I believe that they are. I don't think they don't care. Just the unlimited DVR thing, you could break them. Yeah, here we go. But it's hateful. They hate Trump. They hate people who vote for Trump. Everybody knows that. And you know what's next? The view. All right. I'll stop it right there. Um, because he had it and this is, this is why I kept this clip. I didn't even know you had it. I missed it in your lineup, but I did see you had the Sonny Haustens, uh, reading. So I'll, I'll let him into what you had to do. Well, Leonard finishes thought because he mentions this and then we'll cut to the Sunday Huston side. I want to thank one of our producers for sending me. I've seen these Huston, Huston's things a couple of times.

Starting point is 00:32:54 I never recorded them. Somebody sent them to me. I said, Oh, I should have recorded them. I can tell because they're a little below your level. They won't be the same amplitude that my material that has. I noticed right away, Oh, you didn't make that clip, someone else did. All right, here we go. Yeah, you can tell from the waveform, sure. Yeah. ABC News is going to have to cut ties with The View. And you saw that today or yesterday when Sonny Haassin had to read a legal statement in the middle of a segment the lawyers got

Starting point is 00:33:28 in her get whoopi Goldberg's ear and said we're bringing a statement in on a teleprompter she reads it all right she reads oh now this is actually quite funny because Hoskins is off the deep end anyway. Yeah, yeah. And so she is, she goes off and she basically slanders on the air gates. Is this the first clip? Yeah, clip one. Okay. And within the Department of Justice, you know, you have the sex crimes unit, which is what I was a part of, child sex crimes and child trafficking. How could you nominate someone with allegations

Starting point is 00:34:11 of child trafficking or trafficking across state lines and having sex with a 17-year-old? My understanding further on in the interview, they discuss the fact that once he finds out that she's 17, he stops having sex with her. Well, statutory sex doesn't require you to know what age the person is. It only requires the age. Oh, man. She's just basing this on hearsay, no? Yeah, hearsay.

Starting point is 00:34:38 And the other thing is, first of all, you have to kind of visualize what is he having sex in a room full of people? I don't know. Hey, she's only 17, Matt. You better get off her. Oh, okay. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense. But so within five minutes.

Starting point is 00:34:58 Oh, this is in the same show. This is within five minutes. Five minutes after she said this. Somebody who obviously put a bug in Rosie's ear and they put it on the prompter. And I'm telling you. Whoopie, not Rosie, Whoopie. Oh, that's funny. I said Rosie. Whoopie, Whoopie hears that, Oh, you better take care of this. And so Sonny Hoskins reads from a prompter, what's the next clip, she reads,

Starting point is 00:35:25 but it's the look on her face. She is so steamed up that she has to do this because it's humiliating. It's basically humiliation that she's doing this, but here she goes. Okay, Sonny, you have a legal note. I do have a legal note, thank you Whoopi. Matt Gaetz has long denied all allegations, calling

Starting point is 00:35:46 the claims quote invented and saying in a statement to ABC News that this false smear following a three year criminal investigation should be viewed with great skepticism. That DOJ investigation was closed with no charges being brought. We'll be right back. Now, do you think that Gates can still go after her because of the of the read? Like your read was not serious. You still slandered me. I mean, would that be possible? I think it's possible. I don't think it's gonna happen, but it's possible because then more than one or two commentators have said this. Oh really? You just said, you're number three. Saying that hey, this is not a sincere apology by any means.

Starting point is 00:36:28 Cause she was just, her jaw clenched as she read this and she was not a happy camper. Do you want to go back to O'Reilly or are we good? Do we need to go back to O'Reilly? No, yeah, go back to O'Reilly cause it does get pretty good. But it's hateful Oh, they hate Trump And you saw that today or yesterday when Sonny Haas and had to read a legal Statement in the middle of a segment. Well The lawyers got in her get whoopie Goldberg's ear and said we're bringing a statement in on a teleprompter

Starting point is 00:37:03 She reads it. So it is over for these far left networks, done, never coming back, Dracula's stake in the heart. Who benefits? News Nation may, but CNN, which is on the ropes too, will probably get some MSNBC viewers. There you go. What do you think of that? Well I'm certainly not going to accuse them of not making sense. You know, I disagree. The problem is the cord cutting and the expenses. Is that... No, I guess. In fact, when you listen to come well here's this one more clip in the series is nbc

Starting point is 00:37:47 spin-offs is an npr version of the uh... event story company comcast as it will spin off many of its networks that were once at the center of the entertainment giants offerings comes as people are increasingly trade their cable tv subscriptions for streaming services like netflix and Hulu Comcast will spin off USA oxygen e sci-fi and golf channels as well as CNBC and MSNBC Yeah, the CNBC thing is rough for them. I like CNBC. That's kind of rough They're getting a raw CNBC. Well, it's very they're gonna take the. And why do they keep Bravo and not CNBC? Because Bravo is a cable channel.

Starting point is 00:38:27 It's not over the air. Bravo is a super moneymaker. I guess so. Oh yeah. The franchise that they have with Real Housewives and all that stuff, it's massive. Now that's really real. That's just huge. But the logic, I'm just saying the logic is not a

Starting point is 00:38:46 cord cutting. I mean, Bravo does rely on cable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, but they got to keep something and CNBC that's got to be so expensive. That's, you know, whenever you're doing live stuff, that's expensive right there. It's just expensive.

Starting point is 00:39:04 So the salaries need to come down. Uh, we need a new talent. If you and I were doing it, you know, and I think that, um, one of the top bosses of NBC is going to run the spin spinco. Or maybe yes, the guy who actually had the, uh, he had MSNBC under his wing already. Okay. And they just get them moving him out with the rest of it. Now, but this problem is not just television.

Starting point is 00:39:34 The Washington Post and this was, was this actually an article in the Post? This was an article, no, New York, the New York Magazine. So there was a meeting at the Washington Post. Even before 250,000 digital readers unsubscribed, I'm unsubscribing Bezos from the Washington Post in protest, the paper was on track to lose at least as much money as it lost last year. $77 million.

Starting point is 00:40:11 A deputy manager editor shared the figure in a recent meeting with reporters and editors per multiple sources. The editor did not say what the added impact of the non-endorsement exodus would be, so it's going to be even more. Mind-blowing, one staffer put it. The level of anger is through the roof and fear is also through the roof. There's huge concern that Bezos is going to pull the plug.

Starting point is 00:40:33 Yeah. Well, he's not going to pull the plug on the national newspaper. Hey, Elon, you should buy Washington Post. Elon, buy MSNBC and the Washington Post, Elon. Go ahead, Elon. Please. MSNBC staffers in a panic.

Starting point is 00:40:51 In a panic. So, it's the changing landscape. We knew the internet would do this eventually. We just had to wait a quarter of a century. But here it is. Here it is. It did take longer than you it is. Here it is. It did take longer than you'd think.

Starting point is 00:41:06 Oh, goodness. We were popping the champagne corks in 99, like, oh, it's gonna be the end of it. Whoa, it'll all be over. What were we thinking? What were we thinking? All right, so I think we're done with the M5M. The next thing that we need to move on to because there's just such fear and uncertainty

Starting point is 00:41:32 and oh yes, doubt that has crept in and are we in World War III and what are we doing and Biden's going out with a bang and here is a short introductory clip. In a big reversal, President Biden will now let Ukraine use long range missiles supplied by the U S to hit inside Russia. Until now, the president had resisted this position concerned it could escalate Russia's war in Ukraine into something even larger. Kelly O'Donnell is traveling with the president in Brazil and Kelly, this move coming as president Biden only has a couple months left in office seems meant to send a message.

Starting point is 00:42:06 Exactly right, Hallie. Good evening. This is a notable shift in policy. Two U.S. officials tell NBC News the Biden administration is giving Ukraine the green light to use American-made long-range weapons for limited strikes inside Russia. Until now, President Biden had restricted the use of American-made weapons to the Ukrainian battlefield to prevent a wider war. But the president is also alarmed by North Korea sending thousands of its own

Starting point is 00:42:31 soldiers to help Russia. And given the sensitivity of this change and military operations, the White House and the Pentagon are not commenting publicly on this. So there's a couple of things that bothered me right away. First of all, Biden's roaming around there in South America. And by the way, it's not Biden, it's daddy long legs. He's jumping around, he's got the aviators on, won't talk to the press, won't say anything. I liked it when he walked into the jungle. Did you hear?

Starting point is 00:43:05 The news, the media was so desperate to get a quote from him. Yeah, here, listen to this. Mr. President, President Biden, please, we haven't heard from you all press. Mr. President. We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! We have it! head off, and he won't even acknowledge your existence. He just goes, because you're right, it's Daddy Longlegs, it's that other guy. So there's a number of issues. One, the story is based, as far as I can tell, on reporting from Associated Press. And so I was able to trace it back to that. And here's what they report. President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use US supplied missiles to strike deeper

Starting point is 00:44:07 inside Russia. They're not saying attack them here. Easing limitations on the longer range weapons as Russia deploys thousands of North Korean troops to reinforce its war according to a US official and three other people familiar with the matter. So there is zero publication of what's going on here. You know there's nothing in the register, there's nothing on WhiteHouse.gov. We're just accepting that the media has told us this is

Starting point is 00:44:36 taking place and we have zero evidence of... We got all kinds of videos of shooting cannons and tanks. But we have no North Korean. Where are the North Korean dudes running around? 10,000 of them, apparently. 10,000 of them. I don't see that. There's some good, funny reports about the North Koreans

Starting point is 00:44:57 shooting at the Russians, though. It's very humorous. Well, and then there's confusion because Ukraine has other long-range missiles which aren't from the US. Yes, you're right. Tonight, a new escalation. Videos circulating online appear to show massive explosions rocking Russia's Kursk region. The Wall Street Journal reporting Ukraine launching at least 10 British made Storm

Starting point is 00:45:25 Shadow cruise missiles. Ukraine not commenting. Ukraine fighting to hold onto a small patch of Russian territory it holds in Kursk to use as leverage. But Russian forces assisted by thousands of North Korean soldiers are slowly pushing them back. The US in another policy reversal now allowing Ukraine to use anti-personnel land mines to try to slow the Russians down. And amid growing fears about Russian retaliation, the US embassy in Kiev closing down for much of the day.

Starting point is 00:45:55 We were given exclusive access to the secret command centre of the elite Ukrainian Harteye Brigade in Kharkiv. Here drone operators launch attacks on Russian troops. For Ukrainians we do not have a choice, we have to fight because we are fighting for our land and for our way of life, for our freedom. But this morning the US Embassy in Kiev shutting down warning of a potential significant air attack by Russia. Staff being told to shelter in place and other embassies also closing as these tensions rise between the US and Ukraine and Russia So as you dig into this you UK missiles Again, it's the media saying that neither the UK nor the Ukrainian government have confirmed it

Starting point is 00:46:36 But British media say they have numerous sources and also Russian military bloggers Missiles that were used. It's on a town called Maryino in Kursk region in Russia, only about 40 kilometers actually from the Ukrainian border. There's one video doing the rounds on social media made by somebody in that town. You can't see the missiles but you hear them flying in and you hear him becoming increasingly agitated as one after another these missiles fly in and you can count at least 12 of them. The Russians, their military bloggers are admitting that it doesn't sound from the way this video sounds as though all of those

Starting point is 00:47:16 missiles were intercepted. Perhaps some of them were shot down but certainly not all of them. Yeah and then Moscow says, oh no we shot down five of the six. I won't play the clip because it gets a little tedious. So all these are the great attackums. They shot down five of the six. Luckily on the soon to be spun off spinco CNBC, there was a rare moment of spin down and information that was actually useful from a guy from the Brookings Institute.

Starting point is 00:47:45 For more insights on this move, we want to bring in Michael O'Hanlon. He's senior fellow and director of research for foreign policy at the Brookings Institution. And Mike, you were the first person I thought of when I heard this report. What does this mean? It sounds like Biden is trying to help Zelensky maybe get the best possible positioning he can before the Trump administration comes in and potentially forces a deal with Russia. Hi, Becky. Well, that's part of it.

Starting point is 00:48:12 But I also think it's just sort of the most natural, relatively small, somewhat symbolic gesture that can be made in response to the North Korean involvement. Because as you know, the permission to use these weapons is limited to that very small part of Russia where the North Koreans are now fighting to try to drive the Ukrainians out. Moreover, we've known this kind of a decision might be coming for a long time. President Biden's made decisions like this before, so I doubt very much that Russia and North Korea allow themselves to have big troop concentrations or vulnerable headquarters

Starting point is 00:48:49 within range of these missiles. And moreover, it seems like we've told the world about the decision before we gave the Ukrainians permission. So any element of surprise has probably been lost. So I think it's, you know, I think it has to be seen more in the context of the diplomacy of the war and trying to make sure the North Koreans don't come in in larger numbers rather than any effort to make a decisive military difference on the battlefield. Exactly. It's not that big a deal. Everybody's got their hair on fire. Oh, Putin. Oh, Putin said, Oh, I'm going to escalate my rules.

Starting point is 00:49:26 Well, yeah, of course he's going to say that. It's tit for tat. This is typical, typical war gaming. And yes, everybody knew that the attack was coming. I read from the Supplemental Appropriations Act 2024, Section 505, while you're picking up the phone. Transfer of long-range attackms required as soon as practicable after the date of enactment of this Act. The President shall transfer long-range Army tactical missile systems, attackms, to the Government of Ukraine to assist the Government

Starting point is 00:49:58 of Ukraine in defending itself and achieving victory against the Russian Federation. If the President determines that executing the transfer of long-range Army tactical missile systems to the government of Ukraine, pursuant to subsection A, would be detrimental to the national security interests of the United States, the president may withhold such transfer, which he of course has done so far. And then he has to issue a report to the committees on appropriations and foreign relations of the Senate and of the House. So none of that happened. What did happen, what did happen is there was a memorandum on the 15th, memorandum on the delegation of authorities under section 507D and 508A. Because I went

Starting point is 00:50:43 looking, hey, wait a minute, don't tell me he let Anthony Blinken take care of these attackums. No. D, so 507D is cancellation of indebtedness. Yes, this is exactly right. This was the cover up for what you're just about to read, which I think is just abhorrent. So the president can, may not before November 15th, 2024, so this came out on the 15th, take any action related to the indebtedness of the government of Ukraine that cancels

Starting point is 00:51:16 any indebtedness incurred by Ukraine pursuant to this section. So that has been transferred to the Secretary of State. And so now Blinken can, if he hasn't already, cancel Ukraine's debt to us. Thanks a lot. According to this morning's report, $4.7 billion of loan forgiveness was released. Right off the top, I have no idea what the total is going to be, but already the so-called loan is Bullcrap. I mean we have been taken for a ride. Not only is it a cover-up for this But it's also a cover-up for that. For the seventh consecutive time The Department of Defense could not fully account for how it spends taxpayer dollars. In the latest audit, the Pentagon could not track

Starting point is 00:52:06 billions of dollars. The Defense Department's budget over 800 billion, almost a trillion dollars. For the 2024 fiscal year is 842 billion, just over 12% of the total federal budget. Comptroller Mike McCord stating in a release that despite the audit revealing areas for improvement The department has turned a corner and quote momentum is on our side Now i'm I I got this clip because and this was from um news nation They did some very interesting inserts here Which we'll discuss after the clip plays out the pentagon's reliance on private contractors, which account for more than 400 billion annually, over half the defense budget, according to USAspending.gov.

Starting point is 00:52:52 From jet fighters to missile systems, companies like Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and Raytheon secure multibillion dollar contracts each year. These contracts have drawn scrutiny for cost overruns, delays, and insufficient oversight. We're not going gonna be cutting ribbons, we're gonna be cutting costs. President-elect Donald Trump vowing to reduce wasteful federal spending with the newly created Department of Government Efficiency or DOGE, tapping billionaires Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk to lead the charge. Our defense

Starting point is 00:53:22 budget is pretty gigantic, it's a trillion dollars but the interest that we owe on the debt is now higher than the defense budget over a trillion dollars and growing. The failed audit revealing the Department of Defense continues to face difficulties in tracking and reporting property, equipment and inventory, preventing an accurate report of a clear money trail. This is about restoring self-governance and accountability in America. Most of the people making these decisions from health care to the Department of Defense are failing on effectiveness because they have no accountability. Though DOJ is not an official agency and Congress controls budget for federal agencies, the hope of the president-elect is that the initiative, which ends in 2026, can help the

Starting point is 00:54:08 Pentagon pass its first audit by 2028. So I'm pretty sure all this noise was definitely partially used or intended to cover up this failed audit seventh time in a row. And I love that NewsNation, you know, chopped in the Doge Boys saying, billionaire, Vivek Rirmaswamy, I didn't know he was a billionaire, but the Doge Boys, how much you want to bet that they're not going to start with the Department of Defense? I have a very hard time seeing Elon Musk saying, yeah, I know there's wasteful spending on those rockets and that stuff. You can't have

Starting point is 00:54:41 that. No. We'll see if they go off to the Department of Defense. But these types of distractions for massive audit failures within the Department of Defense go back to 2001. That would have been perfect. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of different technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible. We maintain 20 to 25 percent more base infrastructure than we need to support our forces. At an annual waste to taxpayer payers of

Starting point is 00:55:31 some three to four billion dollars. That was Donald Rumsfeld on September 10th 2001. You know, we didn't talk about defense issues for a long time after that. In addition, this is NATO freaking out about Trump. Freaking out about. They are freaked out. We need to have more noise going on in Russia, with Russia and Ukraine, more stuff to talk about. We need to get as much money out as we can.

Starting point is 00:55:59 And you know what? Why don't we do an exercise while we're at it? This forest in Lapland is within Russian missile range. Departure! It's the first NATO military exercise since the re-election of Donald Trump. Departure in sight! Departure in sight! And as French artillery fires alongside US Army rocket launchers,

Starting point is 00:56:22 the threat of American disengagement is on everyone's minds. This French colonel who is in charge here doesn't want to consider this scenario. NATO is important and so is France's role in this military power. NATO is vital for us and our partners. Vital, especially as Russian President Vladimir Putin once again raises the threat of a nuclear attack. And for his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky, a US withdrawal would mean a defeat for Ukraine. I can't predict the future.

Starting point is 00:56:55 I'll say the US has been a founding member of NATO for 75 years. And I only see that continuing. Since the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the United States have deployed in Europe some 90,000 soldiers from their naval and air forces. And as NATO allies await Donald Trump's first decisions, war simulations remain on the agenda. This whole report was set up to say we need NATO, NATO is important, Finland brand new NATO member, they're in Finland doing these exercises within range of these weapons, within Russian range of these weapons. The people speaking, they've got the good looking uniforms on, you know, yeah, it's camo but it's freshly pressed and they're not running through some mud doing exercises,

Starting point is 00:57:43 they're due to do PR, promotion. Oh, and while we're out at Finland, oh, you should be very worried. You really need NATO too. This morning questions about potential sabotage after two underwater internet cables connecting parts of Europe to the NATO countries of Finland and Sweden were severed under the Baltic Sea. A cargo ship in the area owned by a Chinese company has raised suspicion Local authorities now tracking the ship that said sail from Russia unconfirmed reports claim the captain is Russian European officials not directly blaming Russia for the disconnected cables

Starting point is 00:58:15 But Germany and Finland saying our European security is not only under threat from Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine But also from hybrid warfare by malicious actors. Hybrid warfare is a term that could include unconventional tactics like cyber attacks. Speaking generally, we are incredibly concerned about hybrid warfare conducted by Russia, both in Europe and around the world. And it's something that we have been in close coordination with our European allies. It comes as Ukraine launches British made cruise missiles into Russia for the first time, just days after President Biden allowed Ukraine to fire American long range missiles into Russian territory.

Starting point is 00:58:53 So we don't even know if Atacams were fired. It's still these British shadow missiles and we're freaking out the new NATO members. Oh, oh, the captain was Russian. Hey, probably. And I talked to Sir Wunderhelm. I said, how's your internet? I had no problem with the internet. These were internet cables. There's no issues. I don't know exactly what's going on, but we have to sigh up the Finnish and Swedish people one more time. How to prepare for the possibility of war. That's the question addressed in this pamphlet

Starting point is 00:59:26 sent out to more than 5 million Swedes. The booklet was written by the Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency and provides practical tips for dealing with crises such as war, natural disasters or cyber attacks. We actually have to prepare for a worst case scenario, a war scenario, not that we necessarily think that there will be war, but we really need to have that preparedness and need to include the population in that preparedness. The 32-page brochure gives logistical advice, from stocking up on food and water and growing your own vegetables, to finding reliable sources of information and locating bomb shelters.

Starting point is 01:00:05 It also provides mental health advice on how to deal with anxiety caused by the possibility of war. With simple ideas like talking about concerns to friends and family, helping others to feel useful, exercising or limiting the barrage of negative news about the world. The initiative has sparked intense debate in a society unaccustomed to the reality of war. But the Swedes are not the only ones taking precautions. Their Finnish neighbors who share 1340 kilometer long border with Russia have also set up a website offering similar advice. In 2022, after the Russian

Starting point is 01:00:39 invasion began, two countries asked to join NATO, now just abandoning several decades of military non-alignment. So there it is in my nutshell. This is a bunch of bull crap. And don't be worried about World War Three starting and Biden going out with a bang. This is all just typical PR to cover up the audit, to cover up the debt forgiveness and to keep NATO looking very important. And oh boy, we can't, no Trump, you can't pull us out of NATO.

Starting point is 01:01:09 That would be horrible. This is public relations slash propaganda. I can't argue. No, it's the basic thesis. You can't argue. It's totally prepare for war. Oh my, my my my. Well we can take a look at the 3x3 which is about Ukraine shooting these missiles. Oh man I'm sorry I feel woefully unprepared I didn't even realize you had a 3x3.

Starting point is 01:01:38 And now it's time for 3x3 Heavy Experiment by JCD Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC. The never-ending 3 by 3. Alright, Steve Jones on the ball once again. It's good to have him back with a 3 by 3. Let's find out what's going on in US propaganda of this war, this horrible turn of events. Yes, sir, with ABC. Tonight, Ukraine firing the first American-made long-range missiles into Russia. Targeting an ammunition store in the Bryansk border region, seen in video circulating online. A US official telling ABC News, eight missiles known as Atacams were fired and two intercepted.

Starting point is 01:02:21 The Kremlin appearing to threaten possible use of nuclear weapons in response But the Pentagon's there are no signs. It's preparing to do so Russia already attacking Ukraine though day and night We joined drone hunters trying to intercept your own acts suddenly an incoming drone. You can hear it in the sky The team scours the skies and opens fire I hear it! The team scours the skies and opens fire. These drone hunters are out every night across the country and across the country as Russia sends more and more drones across the border into Ukrainian cities. The drone gets away as the team works through the night, defending family, country and freedom.

Starting point is 01:03:02 David, today marks 1,000 days of full full scale war in Ukraine and despite all these talks about peace plans, there's no clear end in sight. They have, so wow, they have different numbers. They've got eight draw, eight attack homes, two were, how, I thought these attack homes were like the big deal. They suck. They're not doing anything. I thought these attack were like the big deal. They suck. They're not doing anything.

Starting point is 01:03:31 One of them broke up in the sky and fell down and hit someone. But that seems to be happening a lot with these missiles. Yeah. Okay. Well, let's go to these are all the same report, but let's go to CBS's version of the same report. I love the opening. I love the opening! US officials say Ukraine fired eight American-made attackums into Russia. Which US officials? Who? Give me a name! If we're at war, if we are at war...

Starting point is 01:03:57 By the way, if it's a US official, they're not anonymous. Well, unless they're lying about it or, you know, the US officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to talk about it. This is bull crap. If we're at, we now know, because Tucker Carlson and Glenn Greenwald did a whole show about it. We're at war now because it takes Americans to operate these and we have to have our US satellite tracking technology, but we're at war now because it takes Americans to operate these and we have to have our US satellite tracking technology. But we're at war. You didn't get the clip either.

Starting point is 01:04:29 No, I couldn't watch it. I just saw that. I'm like, no, I'm not going to watch it. I was tempted to get the part that you just said. You summarized faster than Greenwald ever could. It's like, oh please. US officials say Ukraine fired eight American-made Atacams into Russia. The target was a military facility in... Let's just, let's just, sorry to interrupt, but let's just determine what Russia is, okay?

Starting point is 01:04:57 This is a border region that the Ukrainians, that's that 1,000 square meters or whatever that they went into. It's that area. It's not, you know, what they say, into Russia! It's not Moscow. You know, it's where the actual skirmish is taking place. Kursk, Kursk, Kursk. And you notice that they say Kursk region, not the Kursk region.

Starting point is 01:05:21 So it'll be like, well, these missiles were shot in Kursk region. It's the, I want to say the Kursk region. Anyway,'ll be like, well, these missiles were shot in Kursk region. It's the, I want to say the Kursk region. Anyway, I'm not, I'm not at CBS. Erikan made a tacoms into Russia. The target was a military facility in the Bryansk region of Southern Russia, according to the Russian defense ministry. US officials say the Russians may have shot down

Starting point is 01:05:43 two of the missiles, powerful weapons with a maximum range of close to 200 miles. First of all it's going to help our troops right now at the front lines. Alexandra Ustinova is a member of Ukraine's parliament who told us she lobbied the US government to allow Ukraine to use the Atacams deep inside Russia. The US only agreed to it two days ago, worried it could escalate the conflict. Are you angry that the US didn't give Ukraine permission earlier to use the Atacombs deep inside Russia? I'm really disappointed that every decision that the US government is making comes about

Starting point is 01:06:23 six months later than it was needed. Russia accuses the US of adding fuel to the fire and today Vladimir Putin approved a change in Russia's nuclear doctrine, lowering the threshold for a nuclear strike. A US official called that irresponsible rhetoric. President Biden allowed the broader use of attackms after more than 10,000 North Korean soldiers were deployed to Russia, bolstering Moscow's forces. Today, Ukraine's President Vladimir Zelenskyi warned that number could grow to 100,000. Putin is focused on winning this war. He will not stop on his own.

Starting point is 01:07:07 Today marks a thousand days since Vladimir Putin launched his invasion. We were here when it began, Nora, and we witnessed Ukrainians lose their homes, their limbs and their lives in a war they never wanted. I just want to add my own sound effects from time to time. Nice well. Alright so that's pretty much the same report. Tell me that NBC starts with a missile launch, tell me. I think they have, they're given a sound effect.

Starting point is 01:07:38 Nat pops baby. Yeah, woo they had a good one. Tonight, anxious hours after Ukraine fired American made long range missiles called Atacams at a nuclear armed Russia for the first time according to two US officials. It comes just days after the White House approved their use outside Ukraine's borders. Tonight's President Putin has lowered the bar for Russia's use of nuclear weapons. Under a new nuclear doctrine,

Starting point is 01:08:10 Russia could deploy its arsenal to be attacked by a non-nuclear country allied with a nuclear state, a message unmistakably directed at Ukraine and the US. I'm Kelly O'Donnell in Rio de Janeiro at the G20 Summit where dozens of international leaders have been gathered, including President Biden

Starting point is 01:08:29 and Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, who today called the Ukrainian missile attack an escalation. And he talked about Putin making changes to how Russia could use its nuclear arsenal. We are strongly in favor of doing everything not to allow nuclear war to happen. As for the attack, Ukraine says they will help resist a Russian offensive supported by North Korean troops just months before President-elect Trump takes office and is expected to demand a deal.

Starting point is 01:09:03 Ukraine today marking 1,000 days of war with Russia with talks on the horizon but no sign of compromise. President Putin has made many unnerving nuclear threats. Tonight one European leader calling it rhetoric. Rhetoric. Oh, someone agrees. Why do we have a British guy to announce this? Because this is an intelligence op. My guys were British too. They're all British. This thing is an op. It's been hard here, man. It's been hard to calm people down because they all think nuclear war is coming.

Starting point is 01:09:38 Lavrov said, he's sounding more like Kissinger as he gets older. Heinger. He is. He is. He is. So this is posturing. And you know, so what? So what's the big deal with North Korean soldiers? Who cares? Do you know how many American soldiers were in Ukraine?

Starting point is 01:09:59 Most of them are dead. KIA. Because I get the reports every single day. They all went over there and fighting for freedom, as mercenaries, of course. There's all kinds of Americans, British, Dutch, they're all over the place. So what's the big deal? So they got North Koreans, oh 10,000, sure. Yes, specifically the question you're asking is specifically what the Russians have known to use

Starting point is 01:10:26 Africans and all kinds. So why now is North Koreans a big deal when everything else seemed to be okay? It's it's just a it's a scare tactic. It's it's an op of some sort. It's it's an op of some sort. I have this North Korea Keep that noise in there all the time the term that you see floating around is they're trying to maga proof It's called mega proof. Oh, yes, mega proof. There you go Cuz when Trump gets in he's gonna want to end this war, but you want to mega proof it That means you he won't be able to so they're trying to screw him over and the only way you can do that is with an op But yeah he won't be able to so they're trying to screw him over and the only way you can do that is with an op but yeah well that brings us to Netanyahu well can i just stick with NATO for one more second oh

Starting point is 01:11:11 we're still there yeah there's one more NATO thing i wanted to get out of the way because this has been bugging me for a couple of weeks so there's this well actually Oliver, who I like from GB News in the UK, he summed it up quite nicely. This has been going around and I have some comments on this story. Online publication Slee carried this headline recently from the Dutch part of the lunatic asylum. Dutch government official admits COVID pandemic was military operation. Ministry of Health obeys NATO. A top Dutch government official, it reads, has admitted that Covid was a military operation and revealed that her nation was taking orders from the North Atlantic

Starting point is 01:12:01 Treaty Organization. Dutch Health Minister Fleur A. Gemma has revealed that the military operation was led by NATO and the Netherlands National Coordinator for Security and Counterterrorism, NCTV. The NCTV is a Dutch government agency that serves the country's national security. During a speech in the Dutch parliament, Agenma acknowledged that the government responded to the pandemic by complying with NATO obligations.

Starting point is 01:12:33 Now luckily for No Agenda Nation, I am fluent in Dutch. Not just that I speak the language, I grew up with it. I am completely bilingual and I watched this. I watched the question and answer session, which was about money, about money for a future pandemic. At no point did Dutch Health Minister Fleur Aachmaa say that COVID-19 and the corona period was a NATO operation. She did not say that. She's new.

Starting point is 01:13:02 This is the new parliament that has come in. And she said, coming in as a newbie, I was surprised to hear, she actually says, I was very surprised to hear that under the new preparedness doctrine, which comes from, she said, I think Brussels, that there are new rules that they want to implement and what needs to be done under pandemic preparedness in the event it is a biological attack. I'm paraphrasing, but she did not say NATO was controlling this whole thing. She just didn't say it. She did not say it.

Starting point is 01:13:39 And you can look at the subtitles as long as you want, but I hear what she's saying. She said, you know, there's something up that this would and this is all the pandemic treaty business. That's what's going on and they want money to prepare for a pandemic for a possible war scenario, but she did not say that COVID-19 and the corona period was run by NATO operatives and the anti-terrorism group. It's just not true. So stop posting that. When I heard that guy talking, I thought the guy was full of crap just from the sounds of it.

Starting point is 01:14:15 Well, but I didn't have to do the translation. But this has been going around. But the other thing I think that might be true is the ex-CDC guy that weird bearded looking character that keeps cropping up who claims now in a tweet or in a presentation that was to retweet it that the That COVID-19 was actually developed in North Carolina and then moved to Wuhan. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no, that's Since you brought it up or played this other clip. Oh no, oh no, oh no. That's, since you brought it up, I'll play this other clip. There's now, oh no. No, Canada is, you're wrong.

Starting point is 01:14:50 You are wrong, my friend. We're approaching five years since the first known COVID-19 outbreak and scientists are still trying to trace the origin of the pandemic. Did it come from a lab or an animal market? Well, a Saskatoon virologist is part of a team determined to find out. CDB's Allison Bamford is on this story.

Starting point is 01:15:10 And Allison, what does new data suggest? Sandy, these researchers say it's the most critical question of the pandemic. How did it start? Their previous research pointed to a market in Wuhan as the origin of the pandemic where the coronavirus jumped from animals to humans. Now an international team of scientists is strengthening its case that COVID-19 wasn't leaked from a lab. So we have evidence that the infection spread outward in the human population from the market. Now we have information that proves that those animals were at the market. Now we have information that proves that

Starting point is 01:15:45 those animals were at the market and we know that at least some of them were susceptible. The most common animal found at the market was the raccoon dog known to be susceptible to the virus. But researchers are now testing to see what other animals could have been carriers. As far as we know the animals themselves were never sampled. We probably won't be able to locate the exact infected animal. Based on the evidence we have now, these researchers say it's very difficult to explain any other theory of origin.

Starting point is 01:16:17 That includes the theory that the virus was leaked from the Wuhan lab. This team of scientists says that hypothesis is not probable. Oh brother. Oh man. What is that all about? That's CTV man. Oh no. Oh no. I don't. Some dog that the raccoon dog that they can't find and there's no evidence that any other animals ever had this. Hold on, hold on to my gloves while I light this fuse. Alright, there we go. I feel better now. Oh man. None of this is news.

Starting point is 01:16:51 This is just complete propaganda. And we've learned nothing. We've learned nothing. But we've learned how full of crap these people are. Well, we have. No agendination has. But I'm just looking at my text messages and like, no, we've learned nothing. Oh, no, it's all scary.

Starting point is 01:17:07 So I have a few clips about the machine gun drones. Oh, good. That I wanted to talk about. Okay. Because this again brings up the inability of the mainstream media. This is in Gaza? Yeah, the Gaza stuff. Okay. But at first I want to mention that this morning it turns out that the International Criminal Court has indicted Netanyahu and just as an Ask Adam, this morning on France 24 they were going all over every detail of this thing. Because France is going to uphold it, right? They said, oh yes, we're all in.

Starting point is 01:17:41 Well, no, no. Macron says maybe, maybe not, but then the left wing of France says yes, yes, yes, we're going to arrest Well, no, no, no. They, McCrone says maybe, maybe not. But then the left wing of France says, yes, yes, yes, we're going to arrest them if we can. But me, there's only one country. Does they ask Adam only one country in the EU that, that definitely will arrest him on the spot if they see him. It has to be the Netherlands because the ICC is in The Hague. Of course, of course. And they're bringing their bikes to surround him. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:18:09 Yes. Of course, of course. Of course. Yeah, that's what we do over there. But meanwhile, this strange war crime of these machine gunned... Now, first of all, I want to ask you a question. When you say quadcopter specific Can you describe one for me a quadcopter would be a drone that has four?

Starting point is 01:18:32 Engines with propeller blades hence quad Exactly, and it keeps it in perfect balance and makes it very maneuverable So we have these these maneuverable. So we have these supposedly drones floating around Gaza shooting people with a gun, there's a machine gun attached. It's attached to it, okay. But to begin these series of clips, I have to play the Gaza drones Nat Pop. This was the first time, and I think we're gonna start hearing this, you never heard this before. NPR spoke to several eyewitnesses who have seen the destruction that these drones can cause. NPR's Kat Lonsdorf has been reporting

Starting point is 01:19:11 from Tel Aviv and she takes the story from here. A warning, this piece includes the sound of gunfire. They have a trigger warning for the sound of gunfire? Wow. They should just be putting out on loudspeakers throughout Chicago. Unbelievable. Warning, this city has sounds of gunfire. Oh man. Okay, warning. And this one, NPR? This is NPR?

Starting point is 01:19:35 This is NPR? Yeah, this is NPR. Let's go with the drones too. Hold on, just stop. That's the one thing, that's the one thing that every man, woman, and particularly child in the United States has been exposed to since the womb. But there's gunfire on every television show, every movie, every Democrat run city.

Starting point is 01:20:01 There's gunfire everywhere. Since when has this become a trigger for people? I found it, well, now that you bring it up, yes, I found it screwy. Video games are filled with them? No, it just makes, it's somebody at NPR, the great operation that it is, which I'll, I have a, the final clip here will indicate that it can't even do simple work.

Starting point is 01:20:25 But yeah, somebody had to come, oh, you know, it's going to trigger somebody who may have heard gunfire in real life. While playing a video game. Oh, I'm triggered. Okay, clip two. I don't have a number two. Is that the Duke Robotics? No, no, no, Duke Robotics is the last clip. Oh, I'm sorry. I see it, number two. Yes, I do see it.

Starting point is 01:20:48 Thirty-seven-year-old Fatima Adama is a freelance journalist from Jabalia in northern Gaza. It's an area that has been besieged by Israeli forces since early October. Adama sent NPR voice notes from her home there on October 9th. Hi, how are you? She starts. Israeli tanks are closing in, she says, and the army is nearby. Suddenly she's interrupted. Ah, hear that?

Starting point is 01:21:16 She says, that's the quadcopter. It's what many in Gaza call the small hovering drone with a rifle mounted underneath. If I try to go closer to the door to get better service, she says, the quadcopter starts shooting and I have to go back inside. It's very dangerous. The whole town is under siege by the shooting quadcopter drones, she says. No one can move. For months, NPR has collected accounts from more than a dozen people in Gaza who say they've

Starting point is 01:21:44 seen these sniper drones and that they've seen them used to shoot and sometimes kill civilians. 55 year old Adib Shakfa says he was walking with his 32 year old son on May 31st in Rafa in southern Gaza. Shakfa says it was a quiet day and there was no fighting nearby when suddenly A drone appeared and shot his son who was walking up ahead Okay, well that's the eyewitness say you think that you know, I didn't I didn't think that machine gun sounded very hefty Well, it's good have a recall you can't have something that's too powerful. I mean, give me something like, now add the quadcopter. Now that's, that's a nat pop. Yeah, well that would be triggering if you ask me.

Starting point is 01:22:37 That's how it should sound. Okay, so let's go to Clip 3 and then we have their summary. He says two men rushed in to help his son and they were also shot. Two older women nearby were also shot in the head, he says. Shachaf says the women were killed. So was his son. The Israeli military told NPR it's unaware of this incident and that any suggestion that it intends to harm civilians is, quote, unfounded and baseless.

Starting point is 01:23:02 NPR also asked the Israeli military repeatedly if it was using the sniper drone technology in Gaza. It did not respond to the question. Israel frankly like many militaries is very cautious about what kinds of information it provides about its operations and tactics that it uses. Seth Jones is president of the Defense and Security Department at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C. But also makes it more difficult for everyday Israelis or journalists or other researchers to understand how these things are being used.

Starting point is 01:23:39 Further complicating that understanding, until recently Israel had a censorship law in place forbidding the media from reporting on armed drone use by the military. And it's something most journalists can't witness with their own eyes. Israel has not allowed outside journalists independent access to Gaza since the war began more than a year ago. But we do know that this sniper drone technology exists and that the Israeli military has it. Okay. So we know it exists. And we know they have it. And we know it can work.

Starting point is 01:24:10 So that's as far as they go with it. So it takes like 10 minutes, 10 minutes, it takes like two minutes for me to find out the company making these things. Duke Robotics. And curiously you might find a little bit of information on their own website. These things were, and they're not quadcopters, they have eight engines. No, they're octocopters. Octocopters. Octocopters. And they have a machine gun mounted at the bottom and they've been around since 2016. And here's what their video has to say about it. using collateral damage and uninvolved casualties. Duke Robotics presents

Starting point is 01:25:11 TCAD The Future Soldier With TCAD, the future battlefield has arrived. A fully robotic battalion, capable of identification and surgical neutralization of hostiles in the field can now be deployed to places human soldiers can't reach or simply shouldn't have to go. TCAD is able to adjust to the right place and time. The TCAD robot is designed to identify, target and engage in real-life scenarios. TCAD takes the full recoil of the weapon discharge, compensates for its force and quickly readjusts

Starting point is 01:25:51 to stay on target and in the fight. The Defense Department chose Duke as winner of the 2016 Terror Combat Competition. The company is in the process of implementing orders from the Israeli forces. You're hired. You're hired. You're hired. You're welcome to NPR's new staff. Unbelievable. It's right there. And this was from 2016. They've been selling these things. And 2017, I guess is when they started selling them to Israel. It's big. These guys can't cover this.

Starting point is 01:26:29 No, no. They could have shown pictures of this crazy device and things actually got like a regular kind of a machine gun that you could carry in the field, you know, with a stock and everything hanging from it on a bunch of springs. Nice. And so when it fires and kind of jerks the thing around a little bit, it's hilarious to watch. Anyway.

Starting point is 01:26:53 I think we should start all of our podcasts with the following. A warning, this piece includes the sound of gunfire. I think our podcast should start with that always. So we don't trigger anybody. Well, there's a couple of other things regarding Israel. Good work John, your job is secured NPR. There was a vote over a resolution in the United Nations. Another school turned shelter in Gaza hit by a deadly Israeli strike. Residents in the enclave

Starting point is 01:27:23 continue to pay a heavy price as Israel presses ahead with its military campaign against Hamas. Meanwhile, attempts to halt the fighting are still proving unsuccessful. A ceasefire draft resolution at the UN Security Council has been blocked after it was vetoed by the US. Matthew Miller explained the reasoning behind the move. The resolution does call for the release of hostages. What it doesn't do is link the release of hostages to an immediate, unconditional ceasefire. Israel's UN ambassador criticized the text,

Starting point is 01:27:52 describing it as a resolution for appeasement of Hamas. The resolution being considered by the Security Council today is nothing short of a betrayal. Betrayal? It betrays the 101 innocent hostages. Among the countries to voice their disappointment over the US veto was France, which stated that the text very firmly insists on the release of the hostages. For the Palestinian envoy to the UN, there is no excuse for failing to reach an agreement.

Starting point is 01:28:19 There is no right to mass killing of civilians. There is no right to starve an entire civilian population. This is what Israel is doing in Gaza. It marks the fourth time America has exercised its veto power during the war in support of its ally Israel. So, no! And I don't, this is a new, this is not the old, the female, the woman ambassador. There's some dude who's doing the veto.

Starting point is 01:28:45 Do they have a different ambassador all of a sudden? I don't keep up. And then the Pope, the Pope spoke up about Israel. Pope Francis has suggested the global community should study whether Israel's- By the way, this is from Reuters and I have a couple of clips from Reuters today. I am pretty sure this is an AI generated voice. No, it could be. 14 seconds, have a listen.

Starting point is 01:29:09 Pope Francis has suggested the global community should study whether Israel's military campaign in Gaza constitutes genocide. It's some of the Pope's most explicit criticism yet of Israel's conduct in its year-long war against Hamas. Hope is Satan. Oh, John at Dvorak.org, which you can't spell anyway, so just send it to me. I'll forward it. Someone sent me… Send it to Adam at Curry. Very easy to spell. Someone sent me a childhood school photo of you.

Starting point is 01:29:56 Have you ever seen this one? Probably not. And you're wearing a Paps blue ribbon shirt? No. Somebody doctored that. It's brought in on me. wearing a Paps blue ribbon shirt? No, does somebody doctor that? And I said, why don't you send this to John? Why are you sending to me? And he says, well, I couldn't remember how to spell his name and his spam

Starting point is 01:30:15 filters would probably block it anyway. So you're, you're wasting my hard drive space with this. Really? Send it to me. I'll take a look at it. Yeah, I have it. I kept it. I want people to know that we have a lot of fun show bits coming up, including some big

Starting point is 01:30:31 tech, some big pharma news and Transmowis news. You may not want to go away. As I thank you, the man who put two Cs in Octocopter and say in the morning to you the man who put those C's there John C. DeVorek! John, good morning, you are sir Adam Crane, good morning, I'm a ship to sea boots on the ground, feeding the subs in the water all the dames and nights out there. Yay, in the morning to the trolls, in the troll room, stand still, don't move, let me count you. Alright, 2111 for today.

Starting point is 01:31:11 That's above average. Way above average, 300. Yeah, you know why? Because everybody's freaked out about World War III. So if you came here for the... Well I wish they'd be more freaked out about giving us more donations. If you came here to be calmed down. Hey, it's going to... No, World War III is coming.

Starting point is 01:31:30 You know, the last... Get your bank accounts cleared out. Buy Bitcoin. Buy high so Adam can get out. Adam's not getting out. It's going to crack a hundred thousand. It's crazy. I think I would get to 150. Should I sell at 150? Is that your advice?

Starting point is 01:31:49 Yeah, I got nothing to do with advising you on selling or buying Bitcoin. So funny. No, exactly. But we provide a service. If we really wanted to make money and be living on the high hog, we'd be saying things like, oh my God, World War III is coming. It's unbelievable. What are we going to do? We have our people over there because you can't use an attack them without 25 American soldiers. They're all there in Ukraine. That's right. That's right. It's an act of war. Biden did this before Trump. It's horrible.

Starting point is 01:32:28 I can't believe it. We're all going to die. Calm down. And we can safely say this because we've been through this. We've seen this movie many times. Go back and listen to the archives. We've seen how this works. And the fear of NATO getting the financial plug pulled is very real and very big. Yeah. And the Europeans aren't going to put up with it.

Starting point is 01:32:56 No, no, nor is the military. It's like the COP 29. I only have one clip from that to come later, but you know, it's just about gouging the American taxpayer. That's all everything's about it's about gouging the Pentagon. They can't audit it. The ridiculous Medicare fraud. Everything's about gouge and the NATO, UN, gouge the American taxpayer. But meanwhile when you listen to NPR... A warning. This piece includes the sound of gunfire.

Starting point is 01:33:26 You should be very worried about all that. Very, very worried. You really like that clip. I do. It's rivaling there eating the dogs. It's up there. It's up there. So, the trolls are in the troll room at trollroom.io and that's where you can listen to the live

Starting point is 01:33:43 stream. You can also jump in and troll around, which a lot of them have been doing today. But yeah, they're there. It's our live studio audience. Sometimes they're helpful. Sometimes they're just trolley. You can also get this on a modern podcast app, podcastapps.com. You want to get a modern podcast app because on Monday, December 16th, I am hosting Adam Curry's Boostergram Ball live from famous Antones in Austin, Texas, a live concert, John. I'll be back on

Starting point is 01:34:13 stage. Haven't done it in over two decades. You're going to be on stage with a microphone? Yeah. Well, I'm not singing, but I'm emceeing. We have four phenomenal bands, all value for value bands, and it'll be streaming live on the modern podcast apps with audio and video. Huh? Huh? Podcasting. You're going to wear a wig? No, I'm thinking of putting on my headbanger's ball jacket. I think you should definitely do that, but you should wear a wig. I don't think so. Yeah, big blonde wig. Oh, that's so funny.

Starting point is 01:34:47 People have been asking if you want to come to the show. I'm not even going to ask. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That's the response. Yeah, he's going to say, oh yeah, oh yeah. I'll be right there. Let me hop on the plane. I'll be right there. Hop on the plane. Well, there are other benefits besides seeing cool new value for value music as we're changing the music business. You'll also get alerted when we send out the bat signal for our live show and for that

Starting point is 01:35:14 live show for that matter. And when we publish the show within 90 seconds, you get immediately notified. We have transcripts, we have chapters, all kinds of groovy stuff that you can't get from your legacy apps. How's the chapters thing, how's the transcripts guide, how's that product doing? Oh, the turboscribe.ai, very well. And what I like about it is the transcript is done before I publish the show. I used to have to put a little dummy in there, a little dummy transcript file that says, transcript is processing, because it was literally

Starting point is 01:35:46 processing. And now by the time, so the minute the show is mixed down, so I just take our, I take off the ending and I put our little opening segment, whichever we choose, and then I mix it down into the mp3 and then I the first thing I do is I upload it to turboscribe.ai and it's done before we're even done with the credits and that's so I can just I can publish the show with real transcripts in there so it's that it it lives up to the name. I can't get it to the speaker recognition is not as great. They can recognize speakers, but it'll, you know, you can say, how many speakers do you want to recognize? I say, well, two.

Starting point is 01:36:33 But then, you know, we have so many voices in this podcast, it gets very confused over who's saying what. Because of the clips. Yeah. And it doesn't really, and if you go in late and see the other thing I was using, otter.ai, And it doesn't really and if you go in late and see the other thing I was using otter.ai once I had said this is John C. Dvorak then no matter even if we hadn't recorded a show for a year I drag in a an mp3 of a show that we did it would recognize your voice again that was very nice. So the speaker name it's not the hardest it's not the worst thing to not have but it could be improved upon. But it's free for us, so I'm not complaining.

Starting point is 01:37:06 It's really fast. I like it. Well, that little commentary right there is probably going to be listened to by the coders. Yeah. And they're going to go, oh cool, we can fix that. We can fix that. Not just the coders, the CEO, leaf. He said the CEO is going to say, hey, boys and girls.

Starting point is 01:37:29 Hey, North Koreans, get out, get out of Ukraine and code this up for me. So that's what we call value for value. He gave us some value. We said, hey, I'm going to give you this product. You can use it for free. He says, John, you want to copy? Jay, I still haven't got my copy because I haven't sent him a note back. Oh, well, there you go.

Starting point is 01:37:48 But that's one way you can open. So it's not a psychic product. No, it's far from it. So people can help in many ways to help produce the show. This is a time saver. Time equals money always. So we appreciate that. We appreciate any value returned to us in time,

Starting point is 01:38:06 talent or treasure. A long-standing way that people have provided us with a treasure or with a time and talent is the artwork. I got another note from one of our artists, if you want to hear. This is about the... Another... Wait, wait. is this another note where the artist is pissed off because you know We looked at him cross-eyed that type of note. No, this is another artist who's Who is saddened by AI? Oh Yeah, I saw this note Yeah, this has to be read from Sir Shug Sir Shug who was it was one recently a couple of times He says as an NA artist, I felt like sharing my experience with the hot topic of AI.

Starting point is 01:38:48 As another Dutch master lamented, it can be a real motivational killer. And they said to Tontanil, by the way, he also mentioned this note, where's, oh, where's our other artists who hasn't been around? We have a bunch of them. Yeah. Kidding. A whole bunch of have just rage quit. I noticed a lot of them quit because they have the timing, they get jobs, they don't listen to the show, they become Democrats. This is since the influx of AI art they've become very demotivated and he actually has make some sense. He said,

Starting point is 01:39:25 notice quite some time ago, dramatic increase in AI submissions. It was very discouraging. At first, I fought against it. I fought and kept plugging along, doing what I did. But at a certain point, I realized some of this AI stuff is winning. And then I realized the compositions put together as hybrids were winning as well. It was all confusing and conflicting. After a bit, I decided to simply get good at using AI, but honestly something fell off and I've yet to fully embrace it and know how to take advantage of it using AI in an effective manner. This is not to say there's no skill to producing effective AI art. I believe Darren O'Neill has found a great niche with his prompting and some of what he puts out is brilliant

Starting point is 01:40:05 Francisco Scaramanga is one of the best artists contributing to the show and has a great sense of combining his skills with AI He's a great designer and a great prompt jockey hubba hubba There are also others using AI really well. And so he's but he's actually he's very honored that that he's won Several times but he says to echo fellow Dutch masters, Tantanil, Boivere, Koob, it can be a very time consuming and real challenging to do what it takes to conceive of, compose and execute a non-AI piece that is worthy and capable of meeting with your approval. Anyway, so as I was, so meaning of our approval has nothing to do with slickness.

Starting point is 01:40:43 I'll just Reiterate that in fact comics or blogger uploads lots of slick art and we think it sucks. There's just it sucks It's horrible Because he has no concept you need a concept something and that often comes from the show It has to be something that that we do on the show that that triggers Like gunfire that triggers something in the artist to go and make something. But this kind of reminded me back in the day when we first started. You know, Comet Strip Blogger is still one of the top winners.

Starting point is 01:41:16 It doesn't mean it doesn't suck. He used to draw stuff by hand. He used to draw stuff by hand and we've used a lot. Now some of his AI art we've used, but he's on this round kick, which is dumb. And we've told him not to do it. The round things got to go. And he keeps doing it. Put a stop to that.

Starting point is 01:41:33 But back in the day, we had a lot of artists who were hand drawing, using a Wacom tablet. I would say Wacom, but I know you say Wacom. Using a tablet drawing, you know, doing stuff digital. And I think we had similar conversations about Photoshop and clip art. Clip art was a big deal. We would try to, you know, oh, he used clip art, that's not fair. Remember?

Starting point is 01:41:58 And then, yes. And then these artists would say, no, no, I have licensed this clip art. Yes. Oh, yes, that has happened. Yes. Oh yes. That has happened. Yes. And it was either Tantanil or the other, who's the other one that was, hates us. At this point they all hate us. And by the way, we're just trying to provide feedback. We're not shitting on you.

Starting point is 01:42:19 We're just trying to provide feedback to make you better. It's a rare opportunity to be in the room with the art director Because they people are saying this about you anyway behind your back, but now you get to hear it. Yeah, it's got to be beneficial It's a service. It's a complete service to you completely a service It's taken from us. It's a good they should be sending us money. I'm saying because of what they learned from listening to us complain I'm just saying. So, you know, yes, I think that the tools are changing and I have to agree, I'm amazed at what Darren O'Neill gets done, but he has concepts and you all have concepts.

Starting point is 01:43:00 And you know, there was someone else who sent me, well, this artist, he hand drew these things and you didn't give him any note, any mention. Oh, okay. They were pretty drawings, but they weren't funny. They didn't pertain to something that was said in the show. It's advertising art. It's not highfalutin, high concept.

Starting point is 01:43:24 This is to draw people in like, oh, what is this? That must be a great episode or what is this show about? So it's it's not your run-of-the-mill art, you know, and you can you can get people you can draw people in with with all kinds of tools from a marketing perspective unlike by the way, Coca-Cola who created their latest ads for Christmas with AI and everyone hates it. People like this doesn't feel Christmassy at all. No, I don't know what you're referring to offhand.

Starting point is 01:43:58 Oh no, there was- I can believe it. Coca-Cola is a woke company now, they're no good. You want to hear a woke company? You got the Jaguar clip? Yes, of course. Of course. I have it too. Yes. Where is it? Where's my bonus clip? This is like one of the bonus clip.

Starting point is 01:44:15 Yep. The bonus clip Santino Petro Santi. Yes. And my, my, it knows the name of my, the same clip is, my clip is called Short Jaguar. Oh, well, he is head of brand strategy for Jaguar. Oh, before we play the clip. A warning. This piece includes the sound of gunfire. He is responsible for the branding internally and externally.

Starting point is 01:44:41 And at Jaguar, we're passionate about our people and we're committed to fostering a diverse inclusive and unified culture that is representative not only of the people who use our products, but in a society in which we all live. A culture where our employees can bring their authentic selves to work. And we are on a transformative journey of our own, driven by a belief in diversity, inclusion, creativity, policy, and most importantly, action. We've established over 15 DEI groups such as Pride who are here tonight in the back. Thank you guys for coming. Women in engineering and neurodiversity matters. We've launched major policy revisions such as transitioning at work to drive equity and support for our

Starting point is 01:45:34 communities embracing individuality as our superpower. Oh, it says superpower. Make a good car. How about that for an idea? Make a good car. Yeah. Well, Jaguar changed their logo too. It doesn't even have the, I don't think they're, they stopped using the Jaguar. Really? Yeah. There's somebody had some commentary about that. Because it was unfair to the animal or? I have no idea.

Starting point is 01:46:00 Maybe they didn't get a license from the Jaguar community, that worst community. I have no idea. The whole thing is ridiculous a license from the Jaguar community, that horse community. I have no idea. The whole thing is ridiculous. Have you seen their ads? And to be bragging about it as though it's like some, you're right. Just make a good car. Do whatever you want. Why are you, you know, kind of posturing this bull crap. Yeah. Hello. Hello 2010.

Starting point is 01:46:24 You did it twice. I sure did. But Hello. You did it twice. I sure did. But have you seen their ads? Yes, the ads are terrible. Yeah. You don't even see the car. They don't know. Why show a car? Now we're just going to show a bunch of creeps walking around.

Starting point is 01:46:38 It's really incredible. Hey, we want to think. Well, if we get time today, if people want to keep listening, I have some TikTok clips that are of creeps. Oh, is this stuff that you need to be seeing it to understand it? No, no, no. Okay. It's just people whining and moaning and groaning.

Starting point is 01:46:54 All the way at the end then. We have other people. This would be mostly people that aren't going to meet with their family for Thanksgiving because of the way they voted. Oh, it's a holiday segment. Yes, it's the holiday cheer segment. Holiday segment. You can do that next couple of shows.

Starting point is 01:47:09 By the way, we're working on Thanksgiving, as we always do. I don't think there's been a… Well, there's been one Thanksgiving once that we didn't work. I don't recall that. 2017, I was in England. Okay, I'll give that to you. Anyway, we want to thank Capitalist Agenda, who brought us the artwork for episode 17-13. We titled that, Lipless Wonder, after the $3 million news model, Caitlin, the Lipless

Starting point is 01:47:35 Wonder. And we look at this, we didn't even know if it was AI, if so, how much. It was a very capitalist agenda type piece. Who does these pieces? Yeah. I actually used one of his pieces for the, uh, for the news letter, which will be somehow overlooked. It was actually a dynamite piece. It was the spy versus spy characters, only they were both donkeys and it said Dem versus Dem. Oh, we missed that. I think it's a piece that came in later something when I saw it looking for I

Starting point is 01:48:10 decided to just look up capitalist agenda art because he's really good. I don't I don't see it on the on the list. Was that me that you clicked on his art when there was maybe an older piece? I think, yeah. Yes, it was an older piece. It was maybe two or three shows ago. Oh yeah, no, it was 1709 is when he submitted it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we must've chosen something else for that episode.

Starting point is 01:48:35 That was a killer piece. But thank you, Capitalist Agenda. We liked it. We thought it was good. It was, we did look at, I kind of like Scaramanga's robos robos spear as in Shakespeare like that a little bit The it's nuts transition snack from sir netned was high on our list But it lacked something. I think it was the rabbit ears on RFK that kind of turned us off I did use it for the bat signal today.

Starting point is 01:49:07 By the way, most of these images, whether we like them or not, are used in the chapters. So people do get exposure to them. Dame Kenny Ben, who I know did this by hand, she had the first buddy of the United States, right? Good concept, but the execution buddy of the United States. Right, good concept, but the execution just didn't make sense. It didn't really look like a challenge coin. I think it was Dame Kenny Benn who complained when we bitched about clip art. Yeah, could be. And it had the right, by the way, I got a, hold a, in the PO box. You remember the

Starting point is 01:49:45 constitutional lawyer, Rob, who took us out and we met the the two former spooks from the NSA who were in Germany? Yeah. So they sent me a mug. Yes, straight from the an authentic and NSA mug was a coffee mug. It has national security agency logo on one side and the other side, it has the super secret squirrel. There's an actual squirrel that has a super secret badge on him. This is very cute.

Starting point is 01:50:19 I like that they have humor over there at the NSA. Sure that's supposed to be funny. Yeah. When you see it's a cute squirrel. Yeah. I think it's, well, you, are you telling me the dead squirrel? Are you telling me the squirrels aren't real? Is that what you're telling me?

Starting point is 01:50:37 Yes. And birds. Uh, Darren did a cool piece, which I think was, uh, meant for, well, it was meant for congratulating Ashley Speed who is, wow, man they're on a roll over there. Yeah. I figured that like I said she's going to be like very world famous at some point as one of the greatest female racers ever and of course there she's going to end up at Indy and we're going to call up the up the caller up and say hey can we get some pit passes and she's gonna say who? You stepped all over my line.

Starting point is 01:51:14 I'm sorry. But you're right. Who? What else was there? No that was really that was really the stuff we looked at there were some other things. Everyone tries. I know. And everyone's trying to do stuff. Um, and, uh, so the hybrids, you try some hybrids people go with the times. What can I tell you? It's horrible. I hate it. Uh, you know, there's even some music now that, that, that I'm like, it toe tapping like, Oh, wait a minute. This is AI.

Starting point is 01:51:45 Didn't even realize it. Oh, wait, you got suckered? You know, you're tapping your toe to some AI music. Do you know who's doing some really amazing AI music? Bob Dylan. Listen to this. Tell me, do you think this is AI and then tell me who did it. Oh, no, it's empirical.

Starting point is 01:52:34 So that is completely AI generated with a lot of work and prompting by MoFacts. I didn't care for it. Had a very Motowny vibe. I liked it. Mo and the Artifacts is the group. Yeah, well, I played it yesterday or Wednesday on the Boostergram ball. People didn't know that it was AI. Like, wow, this sounds just like Motown. See, once I set them up, I said, oh, this is Moe Fax who did this. Then they didn't think about it being AI. Very interesting.

Starting point is 01:53:02 Well, good. It's fun to do this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But if people really had to pay what it costs, they wouldn't be doing it. And those days are coming. Microsoft Copilot, now $20 a month. It is? Oh yeah. I've never used it. I did do an AI test recently. So I used Grok. Yes. And I used Perplexity. Perplexity is not bad. Well, both of these were a complete fail. Oh. And here's what the question was. I asked very

Starting point is 01:53:36 specifically because I saw this again. They played it. It's on YouTube and it was Jim Gaffigan yacking away at the at the dinner, the Al Smith dinner. And then Trump goes up there and he does some does another 10 minutes of material. There is a blonde woman sitting next to the podium who seems to be part of the group that put this on or something, because she's always kibitzing. And she was she's sitting next to Gaffigan. She's between Gaffigan. She is next to the podium between the podium and Gaffigan when she when he sat down. Question, who was this woman? Because she's a scene stealer. She's mugging the cameras. She's doing a lot of

Starting point is 01:54:15 work. So I asked both Perplexity and Grock. Grock said it was Melania Trump, which wasn't sitting anywhere near the podium. And she's not blonde. So that's way off. And perplexity couldn't identify her. So what good does that do me? Where's this AI? It has to be some person that we all know or that somebody knows.

Starting point is 01:54:38 A very prominent position in a very prominent event. Who was it? They can't tell me. I just asked a chat GPT and at the 2020 2024 Al Smith dinner, the prominent blonde woman seen at the event was first lady, former first lady, Melania Trump. She's not blonde blonde woman. Melania Trump.

Starting point is 01:54:57 She's not blonde. She's not blonde. And she wasn't sitting there. This is now we have three fails of this AI search. It's crap. No, it's no good. It's no good. And it's not getting better. Did you hear that the new chips, they have to recall them because they're overheating? Yeah, well that's kind of old news. The stock still went up. Oh yeah, sure. All right. So is Bitcoin. Fine. Whatever.

Starting point is 01:55:23 But yeah, so now we have three fails on a simple question. And I know if I just took a picture of the, of the image and circled her and put an arrow and as posted it on, uh, any number of social networks, someone would have the answer. But these, these great AI search engines, they can't come up with that simple answer. No none of them. Thank you very much Capitalist Agenda and to all the artists who did their best. We appreciate it all. Almost all of it gets used in the chapters and it's fun to look at and it's great to have this resource. Noagendaartgenerator.com. I hope that we get the the the people the Dutch Masters with you know with their

Starting point is 01:56:07 Getting used to some of the new tools if appropriate and if not, you know I hope you stick with it because you you all are very very good and it's very appreciated what you do No matter who we pick. We love you all Right, John Yep. Okay now let's get to the treasure. This is producers who support us financially. List is not very long today. No, not on a Thursday.

Starting point is 01:56:31 This is where they piss poor, to be honest about it. It must have been the newsletter again. Well, it could be. By the way, you should subscribe to the newsletter. You could do that at noagendashow.net, any of the show notes pages. It's a good read. It really is. It's worth looking at.

Starting point is 01:56:49 It's fun. It's entertaining. And we remind you that we have a show coming up and we do that the day before. So it's useful. It's a very useful wagon. We appreciate anyone who supports us and all of you are producers for that very reason alone. We read and thank all the names and give you their donation amounts above $50.

Starting point is 01:57:08 $200 and above, we'd like to stop and thank them in this segment. They not only do we read their note, but they also become associate executive producers of this episode, which are credits that are real and are recognized anywhere that you can put show business credits down as a chit. Say, here I am, associate executive producer, including imdb.com and $300 or above, and you automatically become an executive producer of this episode, and we read your note as well. And so as we kick it off, our top executive producer is Agent99 from LaGrange, Texas. We've heard from Agent 99 before, 333.

Starting point is 01:57:47 And Agent 99 says, with this donation, I am known as Sir Agent 99, proprietor of the best little whorehouse in Texas and keeper of the Cone of Silence. Well, once we knight you, which is coming up later, he says, I want steak collard greens with bacon, peach cobbler and Shinerbock. I presume you want that at the round table.

Starting point is 01:58:09 I found no agenda like most from JRE, which I listen to live twice a week at one time speed only. Your content keeps me ahead 9-12 months of the M5M news cycle. Your comedy and banter keep me laughing. I have hit Mrs. Agent 99 in the mouth and we both have attended Bastrop and Fredericksburg meetups which were a blast. I enjoyed meeting people I have heard reference on the podcast like Brian with an eye and Sir Dirty Jersey Whore.

Starting point is 01:58:39 By the way, I reject his attempts at rebranding his handle by removing whore. As a recovering dude named Ben, I found the podcast index, which I also listened to live on at 1x speed and only weekly. I am amazed by the ability to bring podcast education to the masses. Keep a positive open source community moving together is not easy Actually with this community. It's pretty easy because people just want to keep speech free and open I look forward to continuing fantastic content and delaying any exit strategies and that's how he ends his note Well, thank you very much agent 99. Appreciate it. I'll see you at the roundtable

Starting point is 01:59:22 Appreciate it. I'll see you at the roundtable Curiously, that's our only executive producer for today's show the jinxed show 1714 I think was it 20. What is the number 1714? But we do have Jesse Brew yet, brew yet, brew yet in Lafayette, Colorado. 250. And whoops. I push a down button, but it gets the cursor was someplace else. So it shot down to the bottom of the screen.

Starting point is 01:59:53 I had to scroll back up and take too long. There it is. Come on, get it together. This is a trouble with these. Here's a complaint of mine. Is this about Excel? So you've got the little bar on the side that you drag down the browser, right? Mm-hmm.

Starting point is 02:00:14 So you're dragging it down, dragging it down, and then you move off center just a little bit. You get too far away from it. It pops right back up to where you began. Yeah. You can disable that. I think I've told you this many times. Why don't you just leave it, why doesn't just leave it where you, where you've drawn pictures of me? This is the snap feature which you can disable. Yeah, where, how?

Starting point is 02:00:35 Let's just move on and I'll show you again later. Again? Yes. 250 bucks from Jesse. Dear John and Adam, I've been a long time listener. This is my first donation. D. Douche, por favor. Oh. Hold on a second. Sorry. You've been D. Douche'd.

Starting point is 02:00:53 I'm so grateful for your show and this crazy world. Thank you so much. May I please get a Bitcoin jingle? And jobs karma for those in search of the next adventure. Cheers, Jesse. This end and all hell is gonna break loose and you're going to need a Bitcoin. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You got karma. Jasmine with man. Temecula, California. I think I'm saying that right. Uh, Grove Ducks, 2-22-22. My son Ryan turned nine on the 15th and he needs to be deduced.

Starting point is 02:01:31 You've been deduced. Because as Jasmine says, no son of mine is going to walk around as a douchebag. Amen, mama. We love you, buddy. We pray that your amygdala forever stay small you forever sing no agenda No agenda jingles loudly and continue to be unbothered by the ruffling democrat feathers That's a mom right there Jingle requests trump they're eating the pets and obama. No, no, no mariachi style and mac and cheese now

Starting point is 02:02:02 I I was thinking about this Because she didn't ask for eating the dogs. She asked specifically for eating the pets and that and we do have that. So I figured I'd play that one. In Springfield they're eating the dogs, the people that came in they're eating the cats, they're eating, they're eating the pets. Okay, you know what? You slaves can get used to mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese, macaroni and cheese, cheddar melted together, mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. And she signs future Dame McMamma of Four Boys and a Dog. Alright Ryan.

Starting point is 02:02:56 So now we actually have the second executive producer down here at $217.20. Why is he at $217.20? How does he get the executive? Well, Sir Richard, he's in Perth, Western Australia. This is $333.33 of Aussie dollar-y dues from Perth. Please give me your most potent jobs, Karma, and a 33 magic number. Love is lit, Sir Richard of the lands down under. Right. And we still to this day recognize Canadian, Australian and New Zealander dollary dews and dollarets as valid for executive producership. So Sir Richard Sobey our second executive producer for episode 1714.

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Starting point is 02:04:17 Nothing, nothing, never mind. I want to wish my... I don't want to get on your bad side with six cups of coffee in you. I want to wish my smoking hot... You know what the problem is? I have a dealer who oversupplies me. That's the problem. It's like, you know, coffee's not cheap.

Starting point is 02:04:32 No matter where you get it from. Coffee's not cheap. It should be. Coffee's not cheap. But when you got a dealer that supplies you, like, oh, there's some more from Eli the coffee guy. Well, have another cup. I want to wish my smoking hot wife Jen a happy birthday.

Starting point is 02:04:47 Wait what how are you making this coffee? Uh French press. Okay. Why why is that the incorrect way to do it? No you make it any way you want there's all kinds of ways of making coffee. I really I like French press. I want to wish my smoking hot wife Jenna happy birthday. Cheers to another trip around the Sun while having fun. She designs all of our bags, runs our social

Starting point is 02:05:13 media and web design, plus has a full-time job besides being a great wife and a mother. Wow you lucked out brother. What do you do with the business? What do you do? You just- He just sends us a couple hundred bucks and sends us 2121. Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com to see the great work that Jen does and use code ITM20 at checkout for 20% off your order.

Starting point is 02:05:36 Stay caffeinated, Eli the coffee guy. Yeah, she does good work. She has a look about her designs that is- It's great. Looks super high end. It does, she does good work. She has a look about her designs. That is it's great. Super high-end It does it looks like you paid big money for it. Yeah which is a big deal the Donnelly's meanwhile up in oh This is in a little war in Great Britain. Mm-hmm Scotland sorry, it's been a while since our last donation, and we've increased our $11 monthly donation to $33.33.

Starting point is 02:06:10 We missed John's Zephyr report. Ah. Yes. Well, it's because the Zephyr goes by two hours before the show starts now. Yep. Can you please hear the, can I please hear the R2-D2 jingle from the, the R2-D2 jingle from the Donnellys in Uplamore? Tina and I were, we were watching a movie and we said, we should go to Scotland. We were watching Highlands for the Holidays, a Christmas movie.

Starting point is 02:06:46 Highlands for the Holidays. Yeah, I haven't been to Scotland either. It's supposed to have greens you've never seen in your life. Well, it looked really nice, particularly around Christmas time. We were thinking, you know, we should probably go visit. Hey, you're not invited. What's your problem? Elizabeth in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, 210 60. Thank you for all you do I am only making an associate producer executive producer donation because an executive producer donation would have been almost $500 Canadian and I'm not made of money. Well, just so you know, no

Starting point is 02:07:20 300 Canadian we recognize Your money as equal to our money. I don't know why but we we love you We did it because we felt sorry for sorry for and it's just it's not been to our benefit, but we love you I'm hoping for jobs karma for my daughter and hurt us either. No, it hasn't hurt us We're hoping for jobs karma for my daughter who was run up against the worst job market since she graduated with her comp sci degree and F cancer for a dear soul who I just found out has been battling cancer for months but is too humble to be telling everyone so I thought I should. Oh no, I think he should. There you go. I want to thank you for the show. I started listening after COVID but you have definitely saved my nerves. I would have been one of those ladies stockpiling beans because I was afraid of the grid going down at any moment. God bless you both and all

Starting point is 02:08:08 the producers from Elizabeth. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Linda Lu Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado. There she is, 200 bucks as usual, and she's tasked for jobs karma, surprisingly enough, and says for a winning resume and faster job search go to ImageMakersInc.com, that's ImageMakersInc. with a K, and work with Linda Lu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes, your go-to for all your executive resume and job search needs. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Starting point is 02:08:51 Let's vote for jobs. Yes! You've got karma. Now, do you want to do this one and I'll do the note? I got the note in front of me. Okay. Sherry Greenhouse, Sarasota, Florida. $200. Thank you, Sherry.

Starting point is 02:09:05 Managing partner of CRM Exchange with an X. A leading media platform dedicated to enhancing the customer experience. Inspired by the value for value model popularized by NoAgenda, we introduced a similar program tailored for CRM, customer relationship management, and contact center vendors new to the industry. With a few key stipulations, we offered these vendors a seat at one of our four, one of our online round tables. In return, we asked them to contribute based on the value they received, measured by the number of contacts gained through their participation. We plan to continue this invitation in 2025, fostering growth and collaboration within

Starting point is 02:09:44 the industry. Sherry, keep us updated. That's fantastic. I love the idea. More people should try that and I'll bet you're doing better than you would have expected. So let us know Sherry greenhouse. Thank you, Sherry. Kim Killian in New Hudson, Michigan.

Starting point is 02:10:00 And she wrote is came in as a check. She wrote a note site data view, a donation, 200 bucks, hello no agenda, thank you for your show and the information you share as a donation. For you along with my donation note for all your SQL, there's another one, for all your SQL server database needs call onsite data view. We are an expert at, oh I had this one I wanted to read. I told you. Well, I'm sorry. I missed the queue. Yep. Uh,

Starting point is 02:10:28 we are an expert at translating your unique business needs. Now, this is ad copy. That's a little too long. I think this is what we determined pre before the show. Well, no, what I, when I saw it, hold on a second, let me bring it up. When I saw it, it's, it, let me bring it up. When I saw it, it's on site, data view, letterhead, no agenda show slash J Dvorak, re donation $200. And it says, hello, no agenda. Which to me is like, thank you for your show and the information you share.

Starting point is 02:11:00 Oh, so you think this may have been written by a machine? Well, I'm thinking more like someone is out there saying, hey, you can get a cheap ad with these guys if you just say that you like their show and then give them your ad copy. That's what I was thinking. I can see somebody thinking that because it is pretty, I would say, I would say this is a very impersonal note from Kim. Yes, Hello, no agenda.

Starting point is 02:11:26 Yeah. Hello, no agenda. And thank you for your show and the information you share, which is something you will run into in a canned note from a PR company. Yes. For example. Yes. Yes. And, uh... So we're on to you. Maybe, but the point is she did send it in and so you can get a hold of this operation

Starting point is 02:11:49 if you want to. Okay. Because they do SQL server stuff, which is some people need. And it's under www.sitedataview.com. Sitedataview.com. So she got her ad in. Yes. But we were suspicious. We're expert at translating

Starting point is 02:12:08 your unique business needs into well-structured database solutions. Whoa. We need some database solutions. Now, if she could, like Eli the coffee guy, send us some database solutions, we'd be a little more susceptible to this note. This is true. Yes, yes. One of the background tasks that is kind of interesting is the subtle bribe. I don't want to use the word bribe. No. Please don't. But Eli the coffee guy does supply the two of us with every month or every two months, probably four pounds of coffee. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Each. He's got to be taking a hit from the, what he's sending us. There's no doubt.

Starting point is 02:12:50 I don't know how expensive it is to make coffee. Well, we don't know one way or the other. But I mean, he could be making money hands. It could be Maxwell House running the whole operation for all we know. We never met him. So, uh, that's funny. And yes, so there's that. So there's a little more personal, something more personable.

Starting point is 02:13:14 This idea does work. You can get your ad copy read, but it has to be a little better. And send us some database solutions so we can talk about it on the show. That's what I need is a database solution. Exactly, we all need more database solutions. Thank you very much, including site trade view. Is that what it is, site trade view? Site data view.

Starting point is 02:13:38 Site data view, there you go. Thank you all to our executive producers. We have two of them and our associate executive producers We will thank everybody who came in over $50 in our second segment. We really do appreciate it time talent or treasure That is the no agenda way of been doing it for it Well, we're now in our 17th year and we can't imagine doing it any other way Congratulations to our execs and our associate executive producers for episode 1714 our formula is this.

Starting point is 02:14:06 We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

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Starting point is 02:14:45 They're getting ready, getting into the fight with RFK Jr. Presuming that he gets confirmed and God forbid that he lives because, I mean, he's the most – He stays healthy. I pray for his safety. I'm telling you, this guy is, he's going to be the most hated man in corporate America. Well, in parts of corporate America, in important parts, the ones that pay for media. You know, yes.

Starting point is 02:15:12 Well, that's the process important to old media process. Yes. Well, exactly. Not the podcast. Not us. Not us. No, no, no. Can you imagine that?

Starting point is 02:15:21 If, uh, if Novo Nordish sent us some Wigovie and it had a note. We love your show. We love your show. Dear No Agenda, we love your show and we love what you do. Instead, they've got a new gambit going on. Here comes the native ad. Here's the promotion on NBC. Well, now to some surprising health news this morning. Turns out more than half of the nation's adults are eligible for the wildly popular weight loss drugs of Zimbaggan with GOVI. According to a new study from

Starting point is 02:15:53 JAMA Cardiology, about 140 million could be candidates for the drugs. NBC medical contributor Dr. Natalie Azar joins us now to break it down. That's a whole lot of folks watching and listening right now.

Starting point is 02:16:04 What are the qualifications, Dr. Natt, to be considered? Yeah, so if we break that down, of that 137 million, about 129 million people would be eligible to manage the lead. Hold on a second, stop it. This is half the population.

Starting point is 02:16:19 Yep. Who are they kidding with this? Hey, it's science, okay? Science, it's study, it? Hey, it's science, okay? Science, it's study, it's science, it's research. You cannot go against science. Break that down, of that 137 million, about 129 million people would be eligible to manage their weight, about 35 million to manage diabetes, and about 8.9 million people to manage heart disease.

Starting point is 02:16:49 These numbers really are staggering, and you know what? 137 million, that is more people that are eligible for statins, which as we know, are just almost ubiquitous because of the risk of their dramatic risk reduction in heart disease.

Starting point is 02:17:03 And this comes at a very timely moment for us because just last week there was a report that showed that about 75% of Americans are either overweight or obese. And in 1990, that number was just over 50%. And the estimate is that 80% of people are going to be so by 2050.

Starting point is 02:17:23 So this is definitely one of those wake up calls to say, wow, a lot of people are definitely eligible for this medicine. Eligible for this medicine. Right there, the reporter that's given this native ad, he says, well, gee, it seems that we're getting fatter and fatter and fatter. Why do you think that is?

Starting point is 02:17:39 Well, because of the- Does he do that? He does that, yes. No, it's because of our other sponsor, McDonald's. Come on, it's obvious. So the big question, who's gonna pay for it? Well, does that mean that. No, it's because of our other sponsor, McDonald's. Come on, it's obvious. So the big question, who's going to pay for it? Well, does that mean that insurance has to cover?

Starting point is 02:17:49 Because these are very expensive medicines. They are very expensive, and that is the rub, Savannah. So if we're talking about commercial insurance, yeah, there's a little bit more wiggle room there in terms of covering for weight management. But take a look at how Medicare covers this. It is covered for diabetes. It's covered for what's called secondary prevention for heart disease. So if you're overweight or obese and you've had a heart attack or a stroke, for example, they will cover it.

Starting point is 02:18:13 But Medicare does not cover it for weight loss management alone. We have spent a lot of time on our air talking about this. I have patients who are about to turn 65 and are doing really well in these medicines. And they already know that they probably won't be able to get it covered by Medicare. So again, it's studies like this that we hope will definitely move the needle on coverage. It's definitely something that's super important. We need more studies. Stop the clip.

Starting point is 02:18:37 More studies like this. I want to know the logic of what she just said. She said, I have a bunch of patients who are getting this drug and then they're going to go, they're going to be 65 and go to Medicare. And now they're not going to get the drug anymore. Why don't they just keep, you know, you can keep your old insurance. There's all these other plans. What's she talking about? If you're affording it now, you really need me to spell it out. If you can afford it. Yeah. Oh wait,

Starting point is 02:19:02 let me, let me try to psychically figure out what you're gonna tell me They're trying to soak the government for this stuff correct and She even says at the end How exciting it is listen 65 and are doing really well in these medicines and they already know that they probably won't be able to get It covered by Medicare. So again, it's studies like this that we hope will definitely move the needle on coverage. It's definitely something that's super important. What disgusting network was this on? NBC. NBC. Yeah. And they're doing these studies.

Starting point is 02:19:41 Another thing RFKJ, as we call them them, RFKJ is going after is you know Rico for these studies and for the the medical journals and all this nonsense. Can you play that clip again? Can you find it? That was the third clip in the series that you played in the last show where he's kind of go after these journals which are just corrupt. Here it is. In fact he had a... Here it is. I have the clip. I have the clip. You ask, we play.

Starting point is 02:20:06 And, you know, I'll also, I'll, I'll bring all the medical journals. Um, the, the New England Journal of Medicine, the Lancet, um, JAMA into the justice department, my friend, as soon as I appointed an AG and I'll say to them, you guys are part of a racketeering syndicate. You're collaborating with these pharmaceutical industry, lie to the American public about the efficacy and safety of these products and you're causing enormous harm and we are going to sue you both civilly for damages and we're going to sue you criminally unless you come up with a plan right now as to how you're going to stop doing that.

Starting point is 02:20:43 So I have like, I have a hundred things that I'm going to do immediately. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Fear for his life. Yeah, I do. I do. I, yeah.

Starting point is 02:20:58 Cause nobody's really got a plan to go after these guys and everyone's freaking out and there's all the bad information. You know, they're smearing him left and right. It's ridiculous. Of course. He's got a lot of supporters, including McCullough. I'm a supporter. Are you kidding me? I'm all in on RFKJ. We've always liked the guy. RFKJ.

Starting point is 02:21:20 Ever since he did that book on Fauci, the guy's goal. Yeah, that was great. That was great. We're talking about... Ever since he did that book on Fauci, the guy's gold. Yeah, that was great. That was great. We're talking about AI before the break and there's a new term, which I'd not heard of, called AI pimping. Have you heard of AI pimping? No. This is influencers on Instagram, TikTok, etc.

Starting point is 02:21:46 who are using stolen images is what the story says, a real life adult content creators and using it to hype up their profile. So what's your LinkedIn fake handle? What's her name again? You have a female profile? Becky. Becky. So you could make Becky, you could take like a scaramanga type AI image and make Becky an influencer and

Starting point is 02:22:11 First of all make real money for once make real money Well, Becky has the potential yeah And this is rampant and and the adults content create not a bad idea I already know what we're as headed. Yeah your reports going and I think you might be onto something Oh, this is this is huge And this is this is another part of what's gonna take it all down This is going to create it the whole internet is Darren O'Neill and I should team up Yes, we should know we should bury the hatchet. No, but God no, no you need to team up. Yes. We should. No. We should bury the hatchet. No. God no. No.

Starting point is 02:22:47 You need to team up with Scaramonga. He hates you. So you need to bury the hatchet. Scaramonga would be. Yeah. Well he. Yeah. And have him bring Becky to life. Yeah. Becky would have a profile on LinkedIn that they won't quit. And then you can, and by the way, you can be an influencer on LinkedIn. There's money there. Yeah, but I think you want to move Becky to OnlyFans and. There you go. One of the later ones, the newest one is StripChat. You should check that out.

Starting point is 02:23:20 Sorry, John, I'm busy getting clips for the show. I don't know what you're doing. Well, I'm looking for clips for the show on StripChat. I haven't found any. StripChat. Remember Chatroulette? Do you remember Chatroulette? Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. Okay, for those who are not old enough to remember Chatroulette. Chatroulette, you hook up your Logitech cam, your little ball cam, and you plug it into your computer and do five frames a second. And this chat roulette was a program that you ran on your computer,

Starting point is 02:23:53 and it would just connect you randomly to a different person. And then you could either decide to stay on that person or just let it roulette, roulette around to the next one. And guaranteed within eight, eight twists of the wheel, there was some naked hairy dude masturbating. Two. Eight. Every single time I feel like chat roulette is cool. Oh, what did I just see? I can't unsee it.

Starting point is 02:24:21 Yes. So what is strip chat? What does it do? It's a uh, it's a it looks, I couldn't, I just just ran into it by accident It seems to be a competitor with

Starting point is 02:24:38 OnlyFans. Oops! How did that happen? Yeah, what? What? What? I don't understand. There's gambling? I don't understand. And so it seems to be a competitor with Snapchat.

Starting point is 02:24:52 It might be something that- No, not Snapchat. You said OnlyFans. Something for Becky to think about. OnlyFans you said, not Snapchat. OnlyFans. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, you're right.

Starting point is 02:25:02 Well- OnlyFans. I'm telling you. Yes. You're right. Well only fans. It's it's it and there was another thing I think this came up because there was a there's a black guy that has been Putting up and I think this is on Instagram or it's on tick-tock It's hard to say cuz I pick it up up off of Twitter. This black guy has been interviewing or picking up interviews done by these by these exotic dancers.

Starting point is 02:25:25 I mean, it would eclipse some of this stuff if I could, but it was these exotic dancers singing the blues. You had to pay for it. Some of them are kind of pretty. I mean, they're like good looking girls and they're singing the blues about all the economies in the tank. Nobody's going to strip clubs anymore. And it goes on and on and on about nobody going

Starting point is 02:25:45 to strip clubs. And I was, and I'm thinking about this, strip clubs have got to have been a fad to begin with because I'm old enough to remember, and you probably aren't old enough to remember, topless bars, which had taken over California back in the day during the Condor era when Carol Dota had it popularized and it

Starting point is 02:26:05 got became legal to walk around topless in a bar. These weren't strip clubs. These are just bars and all the waitresses had no tops on. And it was, and it was very common. You were going to say it was dynamite. You, I heard you about to say it was dynamite. It was dynamite. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:26:23 And so, uh, and that, that was like, it just, all of a sudden, boom, gone. Gone. Well, what has happened- I think strip clubs are doomed. So this, of course, does, I mean, Becky does not have to be, you know, have to take her clothes off.

Starting point is 02:26:38 Becky can just be Becky. You do the writing, Scaramanga does the photos, you know, and you just have to do a day in life. Oh, good morning everybody. You know, Becky's in her nightie just getting out of bed. We can find a good voice. No, you don't. Well, we can have her talking.

Starting point is 02:26:54 Dame Jennifer. No, no, we can use 11 Labs. Oh, you don't want to cut her in on the action, huh? You just want to give it, okay. Well, maybe she's got a good voice. Sorry, Jen. I tried. We'll cut her in. I got a Silicon Valley mentality. Cut her in. Anyway, this is happening. You're actually probably a little late to the game and it is fulfilling...

Starting point is 02:27:19 Yes, this is the drawback. It is fulfilling my prayers, which has been to take down the digital towers of Babel and fill their stairwells with AI slop so they become unattractive to use. And this will happen to every social media network. They will just be filled with unbelievably pretty women. Yeah, that don't exist. That don't exist. And it's going to suck. And hopefully, and you, by the way, you could make Becky trans and put her on

Starting point is 02:27:48 blue sky, you probably corner the market. I'm just telling you. Some of the, you know, again, I don't, I don't have a blue sky account. I've never been there, but there, again, the Twitter verse is grabbing these clips from blue sky and reposting them. And some of the trans women that are on there are just horrible. Well I don't know what your reference point is. Oh my god. Let's move on to

Starting point is 02:28:15 another huge issue this time not in the pornographic sense but in the jobs market there are some real problems with AI and the job bots. There's a new generation of AI job app, applier apps. So you go to a site, you upload your resume, you give it some keywords, and then it scans for the job boards. It sees, oh, this position just got posted. It adds the keywords from that job posting onto your resume. It writes a chat gbt4 cover letter for you and it submits it on your behalf. And so you end up with this thing where this job

Starting point is 02:28:52 gets posted. It has been online for an hour and it's got 500 applications already and none of the 500 people that actually applied to it have any idea that they actually applied to it. And so if a real person actually wants to get in and try to apply for that job, they're swamped in all of this AI generated garbage. And the other thing that's really sad is most companies now, and the more resumes they get, the more likely they are to do this, use AI bots to screen resumes and make sure they have all the right keywords and they have all the right cover letters and all that kind of stuff. And then the AI will rank the people that applied. It turns out that the bots that auto apply for the jobs train themselves on the software

Starting point is 02:29:38 that you can buy that screens resumes. And so it's a lot better at making cover letters and making resumes that pass through the screen of the AI screener bot. So it's even harder for a real person to actually get their resume in front of a real person these days. So we've got AI bots training on AI bots, talking to AI bots, and it's a losing proposition. Once these AI companies start charging what it actually costs, this will all go away. But they're stuck in that loop.

Starting point is 02:30:11 They're stuck in the Silicon Valley loop of, get audience, who cares? Well, the Silicon Valley loops, that all began with what was called back in the 70s and then 80s, what was called the learning curve. And that's what evolved into get eyeballs. But the learning curve was developed by the hard disk companies who saw that these hard disks were going to increase in capacity every year. They're going to double every year.

Starting point is 02:30:41 And so they priced them out for like two years from now so you got it so every Disc that you bought was losing money because down the road they're gonna make all this money Yeah, and it was called the learning curve specifically and it was and that is the Genesis for this eyeball idea where I just keep getting the eyeballs eventually you'll do okay Which was the basis for YouTube TV and it was the basis for Twitter and all the rest of them. So the theory does work. Well, no.

Starting point is 02:31:12 But it breaks most people. It doesn't really work because Twitter never really did all that well as a profit generator. No, but it made somebody money. And podcasting, meh. Spotify spent a billion dollars on that concept. Don't worry, we just get a whole bunch of Hollywood stars and we'll make them exclusive.

Starting point is 02:31:34 I know, I read that article. Did not work. You said it to me. Beauty. Did not work. So it does not necessarily work. And now they're stuck between a rock and a hard place because they need to keep Raising money to make the models better, you know

Starting point is 02:31:50 Which costs a hundred billion dollars a model starting the choice for nobody's gonna argue with you About the fact that these things The problem you have with your argument is that if it costs 50 bucks to make one of these pieces of art your argument is that if it costs 50 bucks to make one of these pieces of art using the computer and AI and you're getting it for free, you're not going to discourage people from using it. You're going to make, wow, let me get this, get it while I can. I'm going to get a free, you know, I'm going to, I'm saving money. There's shipping money with every piece of art that they put on our art generators, probably

Starting point is 02:32:21 a thousand dollars worth of art. Yeah. Yeah. But there's a couple other things here. We have the entropy equation because they're out of content. What they're doing now, the AI companies are now going to open captions, opencaptions.org, I think, which is community driven captions for movies and television series. And they're now scraping all of that. So guess how stuff is going to sound when it's using movie scripts.

Starting point is 02:32:50 It's going to sound like a movie script. Everything's going to sound like a movie script or a Seinfeld episode, and it's not going to improve, yet it costs more money and they need more energy continuously, and they're not charging people for it So the equation is off you've taught me that Silicon Valley. It's always the opposite direction We'll get the people now. It's expensive But as we move along it'll draw less power. It'll have higher output It'll produce less heat and this is the opposite. It's bound to fail

Starting point is 02:33:24 It'll produce less heat and this is the opposite. It's bound to fail Not once it starts producing more power with less energy blah blah blah But yeah, we haven't seen that. I mean generally speaking Silicon Valley is based on a kind of a deflation model Yeah, which is always surprising me. Everything gets cheaper and faster and better, but cheaper is the key to this whole thing. And if it's not going to turn the corner at some point and become cheaper and faster, then it's violating the model and it will fail. Thank you. And even people who had a great model all figured out, they're destined for

Starting point is 02:34:04 problems too. Unless they can tell me who that blonde sitting there next to the podium. And even people who had a great model all figured out they're destined for problems. Hey, unless they can tell me who that blonde sitting there next to the podium. These things are crap. Punishing news for Google. Yeah, we now know the specifics of the US government's line of attack on Alphabet, Google's parent company, in the biggest antitrust trial of this century. The Justice Department has filed for the tech giant to separate from its Chrome browser. You probably use it regularly along with three and a half

Starting point is 02:34:30 billion people globally. It's also asked the DC federal judge dealing with the case to warn Google that if monopolistic misconduct continues it should lose its Android mobile phone operating system as well. It all revolves around Google search. In August, the judge ruled that Alphabet had maintained an illegal monopoly over how we searched the internet, reaping massive rewards from advertising as a result. Google's now hoping that the antitrust lawsuit goes the same way as Microsoft's did in the early 2000s. That was thrown out on appeal. But with the US changing administrations, if anyone tells you they know what's

Starting point is 02:35:10 going to happen, don't listen. So this is interesting. Um, you know, Google has full control over most of the browser market with Chrome spinning that off. What, how would that change things? I mean, will that really change things? This is kind of your, your, your corner. If they're going to spin it off,

Starting point is 02:35:31 they're going to end up keeping a piece of it like NBC or like Comcast is going to do with it with spin, sin, or whatever the hell the thing is called. I said it earlier. Spinco. Spinco. Spinco. So there'll be a piece, so they'll keep a piece of the action, it might actually make the company more valuable, but I'm almost of the opinion that they want to get rid of Chrome because they've got these browser deals with everybody else, including...

Starting point is 02:35:58 Apple. Apple, iPhone. Apple, iPhone, yeah. Which is also under scrutiny, I believe. It's a search deal. Yeah. And they seem to be... Somebody told me this about a year ago saying,

Starting point is 02:36:12 you know, you're kidding yourself if you think that the future of Google is search because they're dropping the ball on it anyway. Oh, it's AI. No, it's not AI. It's data, selling data. Yeah. Well, they've been doing that. That's what that is. And they've been doing that and that's where that is. And they've been doing that.

Starting point is 02:36:25 And that's where their real money is to be made. And so I don't know. I really don't know. I think the browser has always been, well, the Android apps, I think that's really, if they had to give up that. That would be a big deal. Yeah, I think that may be on deck. That may be on deck.

Starting point is 02:36:40 That is a big deal because the Android is a marks leader in the world. There's no competitions come up. You think something would have showed up by now, but they can track everything through Android. They track how you're holding the phone. If you're walking the dog, if you're pooping everything, if you're reading in bed, yeah, it's worth money. So I have, I have a question for you that I've been racking my brain. I can't figure it out.

Starting point is 02:37:08 Probably about a year ago, we talked about Pegasus, the Pegasus spyware, which is the competitor to the Israeli Paragon. And Paragon got, we had a couple of stories, I think maybe even some clips about, and I think it was an executive order, Biden said, Paragon is out. And we can't have Paragon. I'm going to make sure I'm saying the right one. Yeah. Uh, no, um, yes. Paragon versus Pegasus. And, uh, the Pegasus spyware, um, was brought in by the NSO group and was being sold into the US government.

Starting point is 02:38:07 And that really happened from between when Obama left office and Trump came in for four years. It was remember Blinken and and all those jimokes. They had a they had a lobbying firm. Which was Mercury something or other and they were the ones that were using their contacts to bring in this Pegasus software to get the Paragon stuff out. And they had all these stories. Oh, Paragon killed, it was on, was the reporters who got chopped up at the embassy? I don't know. You remember the guy?

Starting point is 02:38:50 He was… The Khashoggi? Khashoggi, yeah. That he had that spyware on his phone. That was the Pegasus stuff. And so Paragon brought in, you know, they brought in venture capital guys. They had I think Red Point and they brought in this group that was in DC who had just been just kind of left the administration during Trump. So there's this ongoing war about who spyware should we be worried about, who spyware should we have?

Starting point is 02:39:25 And so Pegasus is the one that is the, is the current Biden administration's darling, but now we have Ronan Farrow, sorry, Satchel Ronan O'Sullivan Farrow, who has a documentary coming out on HBO about spyware, but only really one side of it. And he happened to be, it's the view, but it's not horrible from the view. It's more about Ronan. Listen to how he's discrediting one over the other and let's see what we think the play is here.

Starting point is 02:40:02 These cases affect 450 million people. It's a violation of their rights. What we ended up finding was actually the tip of the iceberg. Spyware is this powerful surveillance tool. Big spyware companies say they sell this tech only to governments, but this multi-billion dollar industry is mostly unregulated. The most advanced spyware can turn your smartphone into a spy in your pocket. It can copy everything and record you without you ever knowing and then just disappear without a trace. So, can you tell our audience a little bit more about what you mean by spyware and is there a way for us to protect ourselves even in the most rudimentary way?

Starting point is 02:40:51 Well, the film is about spyware hacking technology that can hijack your phone in the way you just heard about, sold by private companies to either governments who want easier access, you know, even in this government, not every government office has the CIS technology. So this means just more people. What? I said, okay, you said it with some other pharaoh. No, Ronan's full name is Satchel Ronan O'Sullivan Ferry. Okay. Yes. This technology. He's developing, I just noticed this, okay?

Starting point is 02:41:20 I heard it the other day too, he's developing a lisp. He is. Good catch. This government, not every government office has the CIA's technology. So this means just more people can use it around the world and here. And the way to resist this is there's a few simple things. Reboot your phone every day. Really? Not every form of spyware is foiled by this, but some are.

Starting point is 02:41:45 They always told us at the department of defense. You mean turn it off and turn it on? Yes. Is that what you mean? Yes. Don't just leave your phone on all the time. The other thing is, this may sound obvious, but keep your phone updated. Uh-huh.

Starting point is 02:41:55 Okay. So I'm already feeling I'm smelling a rat here. I'm smelling a rat here. He's already promised retribution against media, the media and journalists. You think he'll use the spy way to go? No, no. Yeah, not talking about Trump. We have to people? Including us. I'll tell you I've been talking to privacy law experts all day doing this new piece that's coming out and they all believe that this is a moment where there could be a free-for-all. So that's where calling your reps can be important right now. They don't think the Fourth Amendment will

Starting point is 02:42:23 hold in terms of unreasonable search and seizure? I think depending on who's running the justice department. Tell them something that everybody knows. The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution provides that we should be safe and secure in our papers, our effects, our things from unreasonable search and seizure, and that is government reach into our private lives. Well the reality, Sunny, is that there have been courts interpreting that obviously over the decades and what privacy advocates say is the case law has really eroded how that principle applies

Starting point is 02:42:51 to data privacy specifically. Now there have been some rulings that are more supportive of aggressive enforcement and some that chip away at it. There's a lot of loopholes and what you see in a lot of these western democracies where this has spiraled out of control is you wind up with a situation where if the judiciary or the executive branch is saying, oh, there's some thin basis, we came up with an excuse for retaliating against a political enemy, suddenly it's getting used against anyone that the political people in power don't like. And it's usually done under the guise of national security. Exactly that.

Starting point is 02:43:20 And that's why the Department of Homeland Security and ICE purchasing this tech that I've been writing about from another company called Paragon is frightening because what the experts say is DHS is often the place where they acquire controversial technology that's a little legally questionable and then use it with the excuse of national security. Is that Kristi Noem now? Yes. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

Starting point is 02:43:41 So he's discrediting Paragon versus Pegasus. Conan, what's our government's responsibility in terms of having access to this technology while also protecting the rights of our fellow citizens and what are they doing about this? Well, the answer is not enough. So in response to a print story that you see me do in this film,

Starting point is 02:44:02 the Biden administration did pass an executive order saying, okay, the US government shouldn't buy foreign spyware that's been used in abusive ways to crack down on dissent and so on. Now since then, what we've seen is there's these loopholes. DHS can purchase this kind of technology now. In this case, it's from a company where the argument in favor would be it hasn't specifically been used in abusive contexts but but what it illustrates is there's a lot of loopholes and we're not seeing aggressive enforcement and I'll tell you Sarah one thing that I

Starting point is 02:44:32 heard from all of these companies that make this tech in this film I get cameras into where they code Pegasus for instance in Israel they say look we're arms manufacturers we make a new powerful kind of weapon and it is a weapon. There's hundreds of cases where this has been linked to violence. And they say it's not our fault that there's no Geneva Convention equivalent. There's no international law preventing this from being used in certain destructive ways. So we do just need more of a framework and the US government could do that.

Starting point is 02:45:05 Framework. It's gonna take legislators really pushing them. Yeah, good luck. Yeah, well, exactly. Good luck. Is it time to go back to the rotary farm? Right. Yes. So I'm just trying to understand,

Starting point is 02:45:14 this feels like some kind of setup because we have two competing software pieces and that executive order came out against Paragon, which to me feels like he's kind of going anti-Paragon and pro-Pegasus, which is Israeli spyware. I'm confused by it. I don't do think that they're trying to rekindle the business on the outside as they're preparing to leave? Or is this, am I just, is this just completely random that this documentary appears?

Starting point is 02:45:55 I have to watch the documentary. Maybe we can come up. There's something, it'll be revealed in the documentary. Okay. Well, there'll be some moment in there. You go, oh, what's this? Okay. I get it now. Well, it's on HBO streaming. Is it on now? Yes. It came out yesterday. I have not watched it, but I think we should pay attention to this. I've been watching a fascinating documentary on it on Netflix. I only watched the first episode, but it's interesting enough that you should want to watch it.

Starting point is 02:46:21 The the Vince McMahon document about about his bio. He's the guy who ran the world wrestling. I'll be WWF. Yeah. It's fascinating. And I would recommend people take it, check it out. And, and McMahon, it currently, or at least when they filmed it was a couple of years ago, he's just, his whole face has become this kind of

Starting point is 02:46:46 goofy looking thing. It's just like what's happened to you? All right. It's just an interesting story. Okay. So far. I only watched the first part. No, it's a multi-parter, huh? Yeah. Yeah I don't like that, but it seems deep enough that it keeps you interested. So now I have some clips, just some rando clips of Tulsi Gabbard is another person they're going after. Yes. And so everybody's favorite Nikki Haley's decided to take up the cudgel. She's the one who did not bring it into the operation at the Trump administration. And she's got a podcast on serious kind of a podcast.

Starting point is 02:47:35 And she, out of the blue, and you can tell she's reading every single item here. Out of the blue, she goes after Tulsi Gabbard and why she should not be picked to be the DNI. Tulsi Gabbard, director of National Intelligence. Now everybody loves that she is now saying she's a Republican, but I have always said let's look at what they've said, what their actions are. DNI, that is the president's top intelligence advisor. It's supposed to fairly represent the views of 18 separate intelligence agencies and units. It has the authority over a $100 billion annual U.S. spy budget.

Starting point is 02:48:19 A $100 billion U.S. annual spy budget. And it holds sway over which secrets we declassify. That's a big deal. This is a job for an honest broker without any pronounced policy biases. So hold that thought for a second. Okay. All right let's hold that thought for a second. First of all the DNI was created if you recall during our show. In fact, we voted for it, I believe, you and I. We said, hey, let's do this.

Starting point is 02:48:51 It's a good idea. The DNI was done as a way, because this was after 9-11. Ah, yes. And it was done to court because 9-11 had all these, you know, this agency. We screwed it up. We weren't talking to each other. It was no good. They weren't talking to each other. It was no good. They weren't talking to each other. So DNI was created out of the blue, uh, to make them talk to each other, not

Starting point is 02:49:13 to control their budgets or their secrets or anything else. And so she's, she's, this is bull crap. What she's saying. Of course it's Nikki. It's Nikki. You know what? That's so Nikki. So Nikki goes on there. If you want to hear bull crap, we're saying. Of course. It's Nikki. It's Nikki. You know what? So Nikki, so Nikki goes on there. If you want to hear bull crap, we're going to play there. If you want to hear it, you can stop me. Yeah, I want to hear some bull crap.

Starting point is 02:49:31 But if you want to hear more bull crap, everything Nikki says is like, wait a minute. You're, you just have, this is the one of the worst presentations that this is a smear job, but it's like falls on deaf ears to anyone who actually knows what's going on. So let's go next. What are the facts about Tulsi Gabbard? Now is this just a straight up video where she's just talking to the camera?

Starting point is 02:49:56 She's reading this. It is a video and she's got some partner there who's named Chaney, I think is her first name. Oh really? And this is some obscure serious FM show she has. I never heard of it, but this was played on, it was recorded and pushed out there. Let's get the facts. She opposed ending the Iran nuclear deal. She opposed sanctions on Iran. She opposed designating the Iran military as terrorists who say death

Starting point is 02:50:32 to America every single day. She said that Donald Trump turned the U S into Saudi Arabia's prostitute. No, this is going to be the future head of our national intelligence. In Congress, Tulsi criticized Trump's authoritarian strike against Qassem Soleimani. Now, I will remind you, he was considered the master of death in Iran. She said he had no justification whatsoever for killing him. She tried to limit Trump's war powers against Iran. She tried to cut our annual defense budget so that we couldn't punish Iran and hinder their influence.

Starting point is 02:51:15 Reminder, Iran is our number one sponsor of terrorism. Oh my goodness, and this is supposed to work? This is supposed to change somebody's mind? Or what is the point? That's what I'd like to know. But, but there was a little gotcha in there at the end. If you listen to the last couple sentences replay them, you're going to hear what, wait a minute, what, what? She said he had no justification whatsoever for killing him.

Starting point is 02:51:44 She tried to limit Trump's war powers against Iran. She tried to cut our annual defense budget so that we couldn't punish Iran and hinder their influence. Reminder, Iran is our number one sponsor of terrorists. There were a couple things in there. Well, the first one that got my attention, Iran is our number one sponsor of terrorists are like us. There you go.

Starting point is 02:52:16 Hey, we pay those guys good money. Now the point and that matches our basic dude name, Muhammad and everybody else tells us that this is bull crap. We're in bed with Iran. Yeah. We pay those guys top dollar, sometimes just pallets of money, cash money. And we do. To do some terrorism.

Starting point is 02:52:39 And now, and she tried to cut that off. A horrible Tulsi so she so so gah Nikki says that Ron is our number one What what okay? So the sun's up with that so let's go on the next clip. She went to Syria in 2017 for a photo op after Asad and his wife were in Vogue magazine for their photo op, but we'll just forget

Starting point is 02:53:08 that. With Bashar al-Assad while he was massacring his own people. Pretty much disproven or as Nikki might say, debunked. She said she was skeptical that he was behind the chemical weapons attacks. Now this to me is disgusting because Cheney, you and I were at the United Nations when Assad did those chemical attacks on those children. And you can go back and look at a speech I gave holding up pictures of dead children who had been killed by chemical attacks. For her to say that Assad was not behind that, literally everything she

Starting point is 02:53:48 said about that were Russian talking points, every bit of that. That was Russian propaganda. After Russia invaded Ukraine, Tulsi Gabbard literally blamed NATO. Our Western alliance that's responsible for countering Russia, she blamed NATO for the attack on Ukraine. And the Russians and the Chinese echoed her talking points and her interviews on Russian and Chinese television. All right.

Starting point is 02:54:19 Hold on a second. First of all, the White Helmets faked all that nonsense. There's ample evidence of that. And the white helmets faked all that nonsense. There's ample evidence. And the missiles were shown to be bull crap. They were actually sent by the other side and they were doing that whole thing was debunked, debunked, debunked. And we did it on our show. Probably as probably earlier than anybody else. The whole thing was a fraud. Yeah. And remember it was Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston driving around with

Starting point is 02:54:42 a sod all buddy buddy. And then all of a sudden he was killing children and she had a picture of it. Dead children. Remember when I held up dead children, that was awesome. She's a horrible, horrible, horrible. And then the NATO thing, which is, you know, we've discussed to death. Yes, of course. Of course NATO is to blame. That's the premise of the last 10 years of the show. We've talked about that ever since Victoria Newland and the cookies.

Starting point is 02:55:11 Yeah. And Brent and Brennan in there, Brennan, everybody. Okay. This is okay. So there's more. There's more. It, she's reading this from somebody has put her up to this. I'm sure she bought into it because she's not that bright.

Starting point is 02:55:26 The Boeing Corporation. Maybe. Yeah. Onward. Tulsi Gabbard pushed for dropping charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and pardoning National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden, both whom are accused of leaking highly sensitive US secrets that put Americans in danger. Yeah, okay. What Americans were in danger from that? I don't know. I don't know.

Starting point is 02:55:59 And what was wrong with that? I mean Trump probably would have done it if it hadn't have been for it's according to rumors This is not a provable fact But Trump wanted to because he'd like WikiLeaks because it helped him get elected in 2016. So he would have Pardoned a song or your stop didn't do. Yeah, just not even an American citizen. What do you pick him up? Oh, all right. I'm glad it's only one last clip because Nikki Haley is horrible Yes, exactly. This is the point of these clips. Oh, thanks. All right last clip. So now she's defended Russia She's defended Syria. She's defended Iran and she's defended China

Starting point is 02:56:39 No, she has not denounced any of these views none None of them. She hasn't taken one of them back. DNI, Department of National Intelligence. This is not a place for a Russian. Hold on a second. It's not a department. Isn't she the director? DNI's director of national intelligence, not Department of National Intelligence. Am I incorrect?

Starting point is 02:57:05 Oh, good point. Yeah, you're right. So she's dumb. Department of National Intelligence, this is not a place for a Russian, Iranian, Syrian Chinese sympathizer. Hey, my whistle's broken. I want that in my business card. This is not a place for a Russian, Iranian, Syrian, Chinese sympathizer.

Starting point is 02:57:31 DNI has to analyze real threats. Are we comfortable with someone like that at the top of our national intelligence agencies? You know what? I think I have to do it. I have to break it out. I got to bring out Tim Draper, venture capitalist extraordinaire with his partial rap of

Starting point is 02:57:52 Nikki Haley for president. And Biden who's dying to drain our reserves. When voters come out, he'll get his deserts. We need you Nikki right now. To lead our nation. Yeah, remember that? Remember that hit? Oh yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:58:13 The classic. Tim still thinks that Elizabeth Holmes is innocent and set up and she was just crazy. I think to this day, he's just crazy about her. Oh yeah. He wants her. There are no screw. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It was a jail as far as I know. If I'm not mistaken. All right. Is that how we're going out? We're going out with this Nikki business?

Starting point is 02:58:37 No, I got more stuff. I mean, I just wanted to play that. Get it out of the way to show you what a smear, what a lousy, by the way, this is a lousy smear. I'm just letting you know we're three hours in. So before you say too long, too long. No, you got to do. You got to do one more. We'll do one of your TikTok clips. Everybody can be really annoyed by it.

Starting point is 02:58:53 Okay. Well, I've got a couple of things. You have to choose one. I'm looking at them right now to figure out which one to do. I'm going to do the, uh, I know you got you. How about the, uh, oh, now got, you, how about the, uh, oh, now this is actually a good one. Cause this is not a bad one. This is not a bad club and I'll do, I'll save the bad ones.

Starting point is 02:59:11 The one where people are going nuts. This is a very interesting little story. Some girl developed, uh, she's a kind of a pretty girl that, that was bragging about how easy it is to use dating apps. And so her, one of her friends said, Hey, you think so? A guy says to her, why don't you be me on dating apps and tell me how it goes? And I thought this was pretty revealing. So one of my guy friends gave me permission to make a Hinge account for him because I was telling him how easy dating is with dating apps and he was telling me that it's incredibly difficult and I was like Pete you must be doing something wrong and he gave me

Starting point is 02:59:49 permission to create an account for him and just run the account. I've been a virtual boy for three days and I've never felt this bad about myself. I feel like a freaking loser trying to get these girls to like me and I'm starting to hate women because I'm like and I'm starting to hate women because I'm like when I say I I mean Pete because that's the account I'm using Pete's about a six but I'm so desperate I'm liking the twos and the threes and even they won't like me back Pete which is a six so what level of delusion has entered women's head heads like what is going on it is so difficult dating as a boy I hate it I'm on day three of being Well, you have just uncovered something very important.

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Starting point is 03:01:02 We are both happily married. And that's good. And old. Speak for yourself. We have tip of the day coming up. We have end of show mixes and of course we have the Noah Jeddah. We got a couple of meetup reports today, including the one from Busan, Korea. So stay tuned for that as John thanks our supporters who gave us treasure in the time,

Starting point is 03:01:24 talent and treasure of Value for Value. $50 and above. Yes and it starts off with one that has a little note attached which I want to read because it's in Colorado Springs. Clayton Peterson's in Colorado Springs to be specific and he comes in with $168.50 but he says this is a night stalker donation in honor of the army's premier operations Aviation unit the 160th sore special operations aviation regiment the night stalkers In SDQ night stalkers don't quit nice What's going on in Colorado? Nathan Cochran's up next he's in Franklin, Tennessee one two three four five Elizabeth Gunther in Round Rock, Texas a hundred dollars

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Starting point is 03:04:50 The Bundle is failing. Yeah, The Bundle, the plus bundle. The Bundle is failing. Frank De Zoglio in Jamestown, Rhode Island. And last on our list is Baroness Knight. She's up in Edmonds, Washington. I want to thank these people for making a 1714 show. Actually, go on the air and get done and go long.

Starting point is 03:05:09 Go long? What do you mean go? Oh, go the show. Go long. Well, that's that's because of your Nicky clips. Nicky clips, man. I was looking for this donation from Ali Jade. I don't see it, but I will read her note because I'm sure she'll she'll donate. She says, Good morning, Adam, the church, my family, and support and attend are doing a big operation to bring Thanksgiving and Christmas to the whole town of Old Fort, North Carolina that was badly

Starting point is 03:05:32 hurt from the flooding of Hurricane Helene. We're going to feed everyone that comes and every child that comes is going to get a gift from Santa and a professional Santa photo. The site is OperationChristmasCheer.com. Denton Wesleyan Church is organized with many great sponsors. So if you want to help that initiative, OperationChristmasCheer.com. Now, I appreciate that you did that, Ali. I would say though, that you are perfect to do a hyperlocal podcast instead of being in the donation segment of the Noah Genna Show. You should start this right away. Do it with the church equipment, whatever. And if you want information, send me an email. I've got a whole primer on how to start a hyper local podcast. I have now over 120 people

Starting point is 03:06:17 who emailed me wanting to start a hyper local podcast. There's nothing to sneeze about, which you just did. It was blowing my nose. Sorry. Yes. She's absolutely perfect. In fact, that's what we, people should be doing that for these sorts of announcements. We're an international show. There's not that many people we can really influence to go to that event. We're an international show. He says, international show.

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Starting point is 03:07:06 It's a birthday party on Noagenda Very short list but we're happy to say that Jasmine McMahon wishes her son Ryan a happy birthday. Here's turn 9 on November 15th. We read that earlier. And Eli the Coffee Guy once again wishes his smoking hot wife who really is running all the business Jen a very happy birthday as do we happy birthday from everybody here the best podcast in the universe and wow uh no title changes we do have that one nighting so if you get your blade out and get your blade one nighting blade that's the one nighting blade up on the podium please

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Starting point is 03:09:06 they sent us a meetup report as requested. Hey, it's Mertegu from Busan, saying ahuahui in Mofos. Good morning to you all. Hello, Mofos. This is soon to be Sir Jaap of the Wageningen Food Valley. Hello, I'm Andy. I met my friend in Daegu and here. I want to talk about the Korean culture related to the real equality and feminism. In the morning, John and Adam, I am Zina and I'd like to thank you for creating a podcast that keeps my parents sane and busy. Hoi hoi from Busan in the morning. You'd think that Korea would have better gear.

Starting point is 03:09:52 Yeah? What were they recording that on? Thank you Busan, we appreciate that. Leo Bravo once again doing those meetups in the Los Angeles area, he calls it the flight of the no agenda and he checks in. The train's coming, the train's coming. Hey everybody it's Leo Bravo at meetup number 57. Trains good, planes bad. Oh this is sir Leach and Fulpop and I voted for vermin supreme. 10-4, 10-4. These things are huge. This is Sir Thomas

Starting point is 03:10:25 the engineer, Dice Johnwell. Say hi to you from the ranch and join our time right here in Fullerton. In the morning! In the morning to you and Roger Roundy along with DC Girl. They did the Spook Meetup in Alexandria, Virginia. The train's coming, the train's coming. Oops, I'm sorry. That's not the one, this is the one. Hey, this is DC Girl from the Alexandria meetup. In the morning. This is Roundy. Hey, this is Sir William of West Pennsylvania.

Starting point is 03:10:52 Hey, John, your fictional third person's name is always Bill. And I take issue with that. Jane Lee, I promise we're good company. Don't listen to Roger. Hi, this is Sir Bob, Black Knight of Chesapeake Bay, and train's good good, planes bad. In the morning. Oh, thank you guys.

Starting point is 03:11:08 So those are just a few of the meetups that we had. People love sending in the reports. We love hearing it. We love the camaraderie. It is protection that you get through the connection with your local first responders known as the No Agenda Meetup attendees. And as we speak, there's another meetup happening in El Salvador, El Zante Beach, I believe, at the Sunset Bar.

Starting point is 03:11:29 Pablo, make sure you send us a meetup report. Also today, the No Agenda New York City number seven. That's always a pretty big one. Bunk Bar Cafe in New York, New York. Dan, love to hear a meetup report from that. North Georgia Monthly, six o'clock today at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. The Charlotte Thirsty Third Thursday, seven o'clock today at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia, the Charlotte Thirsty Third Thursday, seven o'clock tonight at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. And on

Starting point is 03:11:51 Saturday, the pre-Thanksgiving Meetup, two o'clock in the afternoon, Spada Farmhouse Brewery, Snohomish, Washington. Hey, is that, could Mimi go? Snohomish, is she anywhere near there? No. Okay. Don't expect Mimi, but you can still, whenever't expect Mimi But you can still whenever I say Mimi you think too many eggs calm and on our next showday Sunday The indiana tribal count and count and count on us meet up 330 in at broad ripple tavern Indianapolis, Indiana, that's sir. Mark and day Maria of the Greenwood organizing that so they always send us a very professional report Looking forward to it also on Sunday We're all going to die, but not yet. It has been postponed. That was the New South Wales, Australia

Starting point is 03:12:30 Event that has been postponed. Sir. Chris Wilson was going to do it. I hope everything's okay So we're just going to presume it is and we'll look forward to a new date for that Just some of the Noah Jenna meetups that are on that on the calendar We have them all over the United States, all over the EU, all over parts of Asia. It is unbelievable. You need to be a part of this if you really want to complete your No Agenda experience.

Starting point is 03:12:54 Go to noagendameetups.com. Look for one near you. If you can't find one, start one yourself. It's easy and always a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you won't be, triggered or held in blame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same.

Starting point is 03:13:18 It's like a party. Yeah baby. Um, wow I am low on the ISO Let me see. I think I have you were low on the ISO slash show. I figured you'd be load up No, I'm not loaded up. I have I have to have this one. I should have bleeped it myself. Okay Hmm. Yeah, I know it's horrible and I'm into that into that Yeah, I know it's horrible and I'm into that into that That's not bad I kind of like that I'm into that I'm into that I'm here to God I'm into that I'm into that I'm just that what you got

Starting point is 03:13:54 Well, I don't know if I can beat that but They have a couple randos. Okay, let's start with Individuals something rather individuality. other individuality. Yeah. Individuality as our superpower. Do we check on? Yeah. How about this? That's a Jaguar guy. Yeah, it's not for you. This is not for you. Hmm. We have some kind of a toss up here. Let me see. I'm into that. I'm into that.

Starting point is 03:14:24 That's not for you. I think that's I'm into that. I'm into that. I think that's, I'm into that. I'm into that. Are you into that? I'm into that. Are you into that? Hello? Are you into that? It's not for you. I'm into that. Hey, you know what I'm into? I'm into another tip of the day. Let's get ready for JCD. Greetings for you and me. Just a chip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. And if I may, before you start, we received several emails about the Magic Burn Cream. Did you see these?

Starting point is 03:15:00 No, I didn't know what sent me. No, I thought you were, I thought thought you were I thought you were Yes, we had Sam Williams says the magic burn cream that we talked about on the previous episode Which you can find it know at tips of the day net Apparently it is a chemical waste product from paper mills called DMS. Oh, oh no, that's different I saw that note so it's not DMSMSO in the in the burn cream. Yeah No, that DMSO is a product that's used for arthritis Okay, not for burns. That's that's not what that was No, I mean you okay. Well, I'm you're the chemist and

Starting point is 03:15:39 Then we I mean I haven't got the burn cream so many it could be cream DMSO But DMSO is a light liquid that is That is a waste product that is used. It's controversial. Mm-hmm It's used if you have a show Arthritis, Darryl Lamonic of the famous long ball throwing quarterback for the Oakland Raiders He was a big fan of that stuff. Hmm He was a big fan of that stuff. We had another one and he said, I want to let you know I did the exact same thing to

Starting point is 03:16:09 the palm of my hand when I was about 16 years old. This is kind of a sub tip. My grandmother was in the kitchen. She was from Ireland, knew lots of tricks. When I burnt my hand, she immediately pulled out a regular potato from the refrigerator, raw, cut it in half and rubbed it on the palm of my hand. The starch from a potato will instantly neutralize severe burns. I mean, it's not really a product.

Starting point is 03:16:31 I mean, it's kind of weird to go to Amazon to get a potato. But this is kind of a tip. I just grab. Get a potato. I grab frozen food. Well, you're going to love the burn cream. You're going to love. Have you ordered it? Yeah, I ordered it. I haven't gotten it. Okay. Good.

Starting point is 03:16:48 Anyway, that was just a little follow-up time now for John's tip of the day. Okay. There's a product that Mimi insists that I promote because she's got one. I've got one. Everyone's got one. Kids got one. This is the Bissell CrossWave Floor and Area Rug Cleaner Wet Dry Vacuum. Oh. It's called the CrossWave. It's a, if you have animals that accident make a mistake and pee on the floor, this is for you. It sucks it up, it washes the floor, it's good for cleaning linoleum floors or any kind of hardwood floor, and it's also good for cleaning rugs, it's got two different kinds of brushes. It's a dynamite product.

Starting point is 03:17:38 And what is it called again? Bissell, B-I-S-S-E-L-L. You have a lozenge in your mouth, don't you? I do, cause I was. Yeah, cause I could tell you. You got a cough. Do you have a lozenge? You're astute.

Starting point is 03:17:51 I just chewed up and swallowed it. Oh no, okay, easy, easy does it. It wasn't that big of a problem. Abyssal CrossWave Floor and Area Rug Cleaner. Wet Dry Vacuum. I think there's a couple different models. What is the price point on this item? I think the cheapest I've ever seen them is about 150, but they're running around 219.

Starting point is 03:18:11 They're not cheap, but they're not expensive. Well, if your pet makes a mistake, then... It's also good for making the floors very shiny and clean. Yeah. You and I, we could do a QVC show, don't you think? Oh, I'd love to do it. Or home shopping there. Either one.

Starting point is 03:18:29 Hey, hi John and Adam. I just picked up on that item you were talking about. You know, my dog makes mistakes. And boy, that Disl wet and dry cleaner is really great. And then we go, oh, we're so happy you picked up on that item because we're almost out we're almost yeah we're almost out we have so 500 we got another 20 left only three in the red we got five in the turquoise and one in the cream the cream is going fast we can never mind the cream is sold out

Starting point is 03:19:00 we can do it we can do it! We can do it! Greetings guys for you and me Just the chip with JCB And sometimes Adam Oh man, we would be great at that And we'd probably make money We'd probably make more money than we make today And that is it for our show Thank you all very much for supporting us Noag donations comm end of show mixes. We had nothing new nothing zero zilch nada

Starting point is 03:19:32 No new mixes. So I pulled out tidewater architect dog day. I pulled up. Yes. I pulled out secret agent Steve Paul is it Paul Steve secret agent Paul and a clip custod and Neil Jones for your mixing entertainment pleasure at the end of the show here. We look forward to our next episode with you which will be this coming Sunday. And remember we're also working here on Thanksgiving just for your entertainment. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg, Texas, FEMA region number six. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the rain has stopped for a moment but it's raining on John C. Dworak. 42 degrees this morning when I

Starting point is 03:20:17 walked Phoebe in Texas. It's chilly. Winter is coming. Remember us at knowedgeinthedonations.com until Sunday, adios, mofos, or hooey, hooey, and such! He's Trump, he's Trump, the President! This month, the World Council for Health has called for a global recall of all vaccines, because worldwide, 40,000 deaths with the vaccines. You must acknowledge that the COVID-19 genetic injections cause far more harm than good and provide zero benefit relative to risk for the young and healthy.

Starting point is 03:21:06 These experimental gene therapy treatments can damage your children as well as yourself. The typical standard for any biology product is 50 deaths put off the market. 50, not 40,000. They do not reduce COVID-19 infection, which is treatable, and not terminal. So when there is a global recall by an international organization this committee ought to be having emergency meetings. Furthermore, the most recent data demonstrates that you are more likely to become infected or have disease or even death if you've been vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated people. This is shocking to hear, but it is what the data are showing us. 79% of people with Omicron were fully vaccinated. That is pre-month vaccine evidence that the vaccines have completely failed.

Starting point is 03:21:56 They can damage your heart, your brain, your reproductive tissue, and your heart. Your brain, your reproductive tissue, and your lungs. Your heart, your brain, your reproductive tissue, and your lungs. Your heart, your brain, your reproductive tissue, and your lungs. This can include permanent damage of your immune system. They can damage your heart. Your brain, your reproductive tissue, and your lungs.

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No Agenda - 1714 - "Octocopter"

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