No Agenda - 1715 - "Scruples"

Episode Date: November 24, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It doesn't taste like fish. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. November 24, 2024. This is your award winning Gilmore Nation Media assassination episode 1715. This is no agenda.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Ignoring net pops and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill country right here in Fima region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all hoping Elon Musk buys MSNBC. I'm John C. DeVorek. This is my favorite. I have people trying to rationalize that to me.
Starting point is 00:00:38 You don't know what you're talking about, Curry. What do you not know what you're talking about? What do you not know what you're talking about? Elon Musk buying MSNBC. What about it? He's the one who hinted at it. We discussed it on the show and went, like this is bull crap. This is not going to happen. Well, that's what they said about Twitter.
Starting point is 00:00:58 No, I don't think they said that. In fact, he didn't want to do the Twitter deal. The courts made him. Yeah, well, that was a little different. But if anything, I think he'll, I think, no, he's not going to do anything. And another one is, oh yeah, we're going to, Trump's going to merge truth social with Twitter. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:01:20 That's a good one. I don't think so. That's a good one. I don't think so. Now I suspect that True Social may connect to some crypto company. That would make sense for payments online because that's where all of this is headed. It's all headed towards do your payments. Do it. All I want is an app. Do everything here. Don't need anything else. I guess. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I know. But seriously, you don't think that there's any chance that Elon Musk will buy MSNBC. Well, he did post something yesterday. Have you seen the post? It's got a girl bent over for anal sex. Oh, I saw Rachel Maddow crying about this image. Yeah. Continue. Continue to explain. And then where her butt is, there's a big MSNBC logo.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Oh my God. And Elon posted this, by the way. Of course he did. And then he has some sort of a saint-like character in the front saying, Lord, Lord, keep me from, you know, some, I don't want to, don't let me sin, kind of a comment. Mm-hmm. Deliver me, no, deliver me from evil, it said. Wow. And it's the saint guy standing there with the thought bubble.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Yeah, I recommend Elon go very careful with these things. Well, I think Elon. He's unleashing powers. He has no idea how they work. He's asking for help. I don't think it's that thing. Now, there's a good point. He is crying for help.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Crying for help. It's a cry for help. I think that's a good point. That's a good point. Maybe he doesn't. He knows he's tempted because he's got the money. This guy, what I think it's $333 billion just to use the magic number in Net Worth. And he can, he could do it, but he knows it's as bad as he is.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Why would you do that? I mean, why? So he could fire everybody. He's gone off the deep end. Hmm. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, well, you know what? Hello! I said, yeah, no, I just said hello. Well, I don't know what I said, but I think it would make our life interesting. Oh, it'd be terrific.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I'm all in on that. I'm encouraging this stuff. I have no problem with that. You know, I've identified something that's happening and this is a little unexpected, but Trump derangement syndrome is highly contagious. How does that work? Well, it's spreading to both sides of the political spectrum. It's always been on both sides of the political spectrum. But it's always been on both sides.
Starting point is 00:04:06 But it's pro-Trump people who now have Trump derangement syndrome. What are they? Oh, okay. Well, that's different. Yes. Well, let me, and this kind of was... Is it Trump derangement syndrome in a good way? No. So this was triggered by an email one of our producers sent to me. And he says, one more, one more payment and Christmas, I'm going to be night. But it was kind of sad. He says, so his wife and his wife and he have had some issues. And so he emails me and says, the wife decided to announce at our first couples
Starting point is 00:04:45 therapy Zoom meeting. By the way, if you're in couples therapy on Zoom, yes, there's issues. The wife, he says, decided, and I'm not laughing at this because it's really, really heartbreaking. No, the wife decided to announce at our first couples therapy Zoom meeting after Trump got re-elected. Oh, he says, I'm remote because he's a truck driver. That she's still- Oh, he probably listens to this show. Oh, a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:14 A lot. Yeah, that's truck drivers. That's our biggest audience. The backbone of the show and of the country. And of the country, yes. Coincidental. He says, she still wants to work on the relationship and will always love me, but she's definitely filing for divorce because Trump and Vance are going to do
Starting point is 00:05:35 away with no contest divorce and also plan to take away women's rights to birth control and she doesn't want any legal connection to any man. What? Where is she getting this? From Elon's future television company, I guess. Well, but this is the derangement syndrome. This is not the derangement syndrome I'm talking about, but this is, this is TDS. I don't know if she's liberal or not. That's classic.
Starting point is 00:06:04 This is, it's very classic, but... C-TDS, classic TDS, I don't know if she's liberal or not. That's classic. It's very classic. See TDS, classic TDS. It's TDS classic. That's actually a better way of putting it. TDS classic. TDS classic. And when I hear that, I'm like, wow, she's so mind controlled that she really believes this,
Starting point is 00:06:27 which is just sad. It's not sad, it's pathetic. But now on the other side, the new contagion is every single appointee that Trump makes, everything is filled with, oh, he's a rhino. That person's compromised. Israel's Zionist. Jews. No good. It's rampant.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Oh, that's interesting. So it's TDS new. It's new TDS versus TDS classic. Well, I have to say that I've been susceptible to this. Ah, you need to be vaccinated. We need to protect you. With this Besant guy. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:07:12 The Secretary of the Treasury. So he's the guy, the only, in fact, I think I have a clip of Jesse Waters discussing him, I think. Well, before, and I want you to play the clip. But this is sad because television and social media networks are taking incredible advantage of this. And so this is reinvigorating. So, you know, we couldn't, the libs are all gone,
Starting point is 00:07:41 the dems are all gone, they're all gone to blue sky. And now what are we going to yell about? We have to yell, Trump's doing it again. He has no idea. He's getting all the deep state back in. Palantir is going to facial recognize us all. It's all going to be the end of humanity. Well, this may be, we've been looking for the-
Starting point is 00:08:00 For an angle? For an angle. What's going to be the thing there? Because it was last time was Russian collusion. Mm-hmm. And there's always something, you know, and we couldn't figure it out. And maybe this is what it is,
Starting point is 00:08:12 is some sort of enemy within approach. Well, yeah. And it is all over the place. It hasn't really, I don't watch a lot of Fox. I find it quite boring and tedious. I don't... I think it's very well structured shows. I'm sure you do.
Starting point is 00:08:32 But I don't know if they're doing that there, but everywhere else I look, you know, conservative treehouses... Yes, they are. They are to a small extent. It's not out of control yet. Well, conservative treehouse is kind of like one of these blogs. Tina reads this. And what is it?
Starting point is 00:08:49 Conservative treehouse. I never heard of it. Oh, really? I think it was never heard of it. I think it was an outgrowth of maybe of Breitbart, Sundance, this guy. Anyway, it's quite popular amongst conservatives. But even even in more, you know, we have friends who are more kind of in the Manhattan Foundation or conservative groups,
Starting point is 00:09:14 they're all doing the same. And like, oh no, this is all wrong. These people are not right. There's so much spun up noise about these appointees. It's just, it's concerning for the country. Well, do we have a rundown on the specific problems with each one? I mean, I still think a lot of this is scheduled. I have not been convinced otherwise that Matt Gaetz was not set up as a straw man. Well, we have already said this, that either these people are set up to
Starting point is 00:09:47 detract while the second incoming... I think Pam Bondi is really what broke everybody. Why? Oh, nope. You know, she's no good. I'm just telling you. Pam Bondi is no good. This is beyond me. Hold on a second. I always thought that they wouldn't put Pam Bondi in no good. No good. This is beyond me. Hold on a second. I always thought that they wouldn't put Pam Bondi in at first, but they could put Matt Gaetz as the strawman
Starting point is 00:10:10 and then okay, okay, whatever, bringing Pam Bondi, same, you know, another person from Florida, but she actually has chops. She's been an attorney general for eight years. She was a prosecutor and she's very presentable to say the least in terms of her appearance. Yeah, but she, but she, you know, there was, the people what's wrong with her. I'm just telling you that people bring up these old cases. Oh, she was involved in this. She was involved in that. Oh,
Starting point is 00:10:34 that's no good. She was over here on this. Well, if you're going to do any work in your entire life, especially for over decades, you're going to make, you know, some decisions that are going to piss off someone. Right. But this is what TDS class, new TDS is about. New TDS. New TDS. It's like Coke. New Coke. New TDS.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Thank you. Yes. There we go. We got it. We're getting it down. Yes. That's what this is about. Is people all, oh, it was the George Zimmerman case. Remember Trayvon Martin? I do was the George Zimmerman case. You remember Trayvon Martin? I do remember the George Zimmerman. Trayvon Martin, yeah she was no good in that. Why? What did she do wrong? It's irrelevant. It's just that you have to go and argue about it and then people... Good point. Well you got something, you just made your point. Yes, of course. Let's do not argue about something that took place 20 years ago. But it's fueling up. Well, it wasn't 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:11:31 The show was around when this happened. It's fueling up the social media networks and everybody has, you know, just because there's no one left to fight with. Everybody's on, everyone's gone to blue sky where they weep. It's weeping all day on blue sky. And so what are we going to fight about? Well, we have to fight about these picks. This is no good.
Starting point is 00:11:51 It's incessant. This was a kind of an interesting clip. I liked this clip about Trump's appointees. I thought this was kind of funny. A flurry of announcements from Donald Trump on Friday. The president-elect selecting billionaire Scott Besant to head the Treasury Department. If confirmed, he would be the first openly gay Treasury secretary. Trump has also nominated Russell Vought as director of the Office of Management and Budget.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Trump has described him as an aggressive cost cutter and deregulator. Vought is one of the architects of Project 2025. Trump has called the project's proposals, which include restrictions on abortion pills, birth control and Medicare access, as well as eliminating federal agencies, extreme. For Labor Secretary, Trump's selecting Oregon Congresswoman Lori Chavez de Raemer, who lost her reelection bid earlier this month. The president-elect also naming his first black nominee this term, NFL veteran and conservative commentator
Starting point is 00:12:48 Scott Turner to head the Department of Housing and Urban Development. In the healthcare space, Trump announcing his choice for surgeon general, Dr. Jeanette Nishiwat, calling her a fierce advocate and strong communicator for preventative medicine and public health and to lead the food and drug industry. Did you hear what she just said there?
Starting point is 00:13:05 Listen to this. Calling her a fierce advocate and strong communicator for preventative medicine and public health. She's pro-vax! And to lead the Food and Drug Administration, Dr. Marty McCary, a Fox News regular who pushed back against COVID lockdowns. She's also tapping former Florida Congressman Dave Weldon to lead the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, a powerful agency that sets vaccine standards
Starting point is 00:13:27 and responds to disease outbreaks. Weldon, like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has been skeptical of vaccine research and how the government tracks adverse reactions. All of these selections are cabinet positions and will need to be confirmed by the Senate. To your point, if you're around for 20 years, there's gonna be stuff that people look at and go,
Starting point is 00:13:46 oh, that wasn't great, or you were on the wrong side of that, or whatever the opinion is. Yeah, me and the mouse. Is that what you mean? Is the mouse in your pocket? Is that the one? And what is me and the mouse? No, there's no evidence that.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Oh, the actual mouse, yes. There's no evidence, yeah, precisely. But yeah. Yeah. So I'm a schmuck. Yeah, you're wrong. Perpetually wrong. I was wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. Yes, that's a great example. I've been called wrong for various things by the way. And there's one thing that was extremely wrong about and no one has ever caught it. And I'm not going to tell you what it is. But anyway, continue. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:14:23 ever caught it. And I'm not going to tell you what it is. My name will continue. I'm sorry. What? You can't let that dangle out there like that. I mean, how much I sure can. You could keep, I could keel over dead tomorrow and we never know. Yeah, I'll, I'll reveal it'll be during the season of reveal. I'll bring it out. People also say you were wrong on the iPad, but I've never really followed that one. I'm not quite sure.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I don't think so. At the time, we were all laughing about the iPad. We were saying, what, you're going to walk down the street with this giant iPhone next to your head? I remember making those jokes. I think that was just, yeah, that was, I think that was pretty, but I was, I think you know, only sing when I'm singled out for something very specific. There was, I think that's where you can blast me.
Starting point is 00:15:15 It happened in a conversation on a panel. It was like, was Twitter or something. Yeah, it's a meaningless note. But I'm still good on my no moon landing. Take me back to the moon and I'll shut up. I'm always on the wrong side of that according to people. But it doesn't really matter. The point is that people are craving. You have to be careful of the ways of the world because it pollutes your soul. This is what's happening. Oh man, here we go. of the ways of the world because it pollutes your soul. This is what's happening. Oh man, here we go.
Starting point is 00:15:47 People's souls are being corrupted. Yes. They've been corrupted. They're not being corrupted, they're corrupted. Our job, our service to no agendination, not outside of it, to no agendination is, we've always said, we resize your amygdala. We need to work on this again because people are spinning up and spinning out and they're gonna start dying off
Starting point is 00:16:10 The only way by that we mean quitting the show I'm actually done with dying off turnover on this show. That's annoying to me We have people like Dame Tanya over here that used to live in the area Yeah, and she hasn't listed the show for years. We had a whole social network. Whatever happened to the anonymous lesbian. She used to be a huge fan and she's hasn't communicated at all. Yeah. I mean, there, but a lot of people have stuck with us forever, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:16:38 the turnover is, is interesting. And we have to bring in new people, which is annoying. Well, we need a new crisis. I'm trying to identify one. Here's the crisis. The crisis is new TDS. We got to calm down. It's new TDS. Go outside. Look at the blue sky. Sniff the clean air.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Get some. I have two. I have two clips. I don't have the Jesse Waters clip, but I do have two clips from NPR discussing these new Trump picks. OK. And they're both actually from different parts. They're not the same. It's not like a continuation of the same clip, but they're both from NPR. One is like a quick announcement.
Starting point is 00:17:14 The other one is an elaborate quick announcement done by a different show. But let's go with new Trump picks. Live from NPR News in Washington, I'm Janene Herbst. President-elect Donald Trump today nominated Brooke Rawlins as secretary of the Department of Agriculture. She served as the director of the Domestic Policy Council in his first administration. Trump also tapped billionaire investor Scott Besant as his treasury secretary. That's a position with widespread responsibilities in economic, regulatory and
Starting point is 00:17:45 international affairs. Empire Scott Horsley has more. He'll probably get a friendly reception from the new GOP Congress if he's confirmed. One of his first jobs will be getting an extension of Trump's 2017 tax cuts, parts of which are set to expire next year. He'll likely be pushing on an open door when it comes to cutting taxes, although that would probably add to the federal debt, which we learned just yesterday has now surpassed $36 trillion. Yeah, baby. Rocking and rolling.
Starting point is 00:18:13 So they had to put a negative thing in there in these basic reports. They don't mention he's gay. Jesse Waters did, but nobody, they're very... No, it's very interesting. There's only, the only that one report I had is about him being openly gay. They don't want to say it. Jesse Waters is the only one on Fox who's mentioned it. And he, I wish, if I had this clip, because in the report, Jesse says, the gays. He's been listening to this. So we have a, no turnover on Jesse waters. He's still with us
Starting point is 00:18:49 Mimicking you so the gays so he and he's married. He's married to some guy named John as a matter of fact and But he's one of those used to be called log cabin Republicans, which were referring to the gays I think it breaks it breaks the narrative of Republicans, which were referring to the gays in the Republican Party. It breaks the narrative of the dumb Dems. It breaks the narrative. And they can't say it. Now, the thing that bothers me about this Besant guy to jump into new TDS is that he's a member of the CFR.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Ah, yeah. If it's not CFR, it's WEF. Oh, no. He's a young global leader of WEF. Oh no, oh no. Okay, but this is the second, I like the way, I don't know if there was something funny about the way you did that. So here's the second version of the same report. The next Trump administration is fast taking shape.
Starting point is 00:19:45 A quick update on the latest round of picks. This afternoon, President-elect Donald Trump named Brooke Rollins as his pick for agriculture secretary. Rollins was a policy advisor in the first Trump administration and in recent years has headed a think tank closely aligned with Trump's agenda. A few other names offer clues about how Trump will govern as well. He named Russ Vought to head the Office of Management and Budget, a key post for directing federal spending. Vought was a leading architect behind Project 2025, a conservative plan for a second
Starting point is 00:20:15 Trump administration that Democrats tried to make a major campaign issue and that Trump repeatedly tried to distance himself from. Trump said in a statement that Vought will quote, dismantle the deep state, end quote. Another noteworthy appointment is Sebastian Gorka, who's been nominated as the new senior director for counterterrorism. Gorka served in Trump's White House as a counterterrorism advisor back in 2017. And then NPR reported that congressional Democrats alleged Gorka had connections with anti-Semitic groups in Hungary, something Gorka had connections with anti-semitic groups in Hungary, something Gorka denied.
Starting point is 00:20:46 As a small production note, interestingly, these were from two different NPR shows. The first one had channel bias towards the right channel. The left one had channel bias towards the left channel. That's funny. Yeah, I don't know why that is. It's not typical for your clips. Now, this Gorka thing is interesting because Gorka and Bannon when they were both part of the original Trump
Starting point is 00:21:15 Team at the beginning of his 2016 term and they were rousted by John Kelly John Kelly was the chief of staff at the time was a bright something. It seems like a prick to me this guy he's a guy comes out was saying he hates Trump for one thing. So this like what kind of a Marine general would go into the office and then start saying bad things about their boss. You have to be something of an asshole. And Kelly's, it seemed that Zoa's job was to get rid of Bannon mainly, which he did. He ousted Bannon and then, and the story behind that has never been told by Bannon that I know of and Then he also got rid of Gorka who he didn't like
Starting point is 00:21:50 And Gorka is something of a blowhard. I don't know how He must have some pictures of somebody that's very interesting I love see Brooklyn one 112 because he's infected by new TDS like Mossad connection. I forgot that one I forgot the Mossad connection Oh, yeah, and he also explains Dean The Mossad killed Epson is the latest walls That Whitney Webb I'm sure saying that the Whitney Webb
Starting point is 00:22:22 There yes slowly I turned the reason for our turnover, according to the trolls, we need to, you guys need to be more consistent in your beliefs. That's, that's- We're very consistent in our beliefs. Explain. Don't you think? I think-
Starting point is 00:22:40 Our belief is to be open-minded. Yes. We're extremely consistent with this open-mindedness. Yeah, we're open to changing our- We're not sitting around as a couple of ideologues going on and on with kind of a fixed-and-stone kind of attitude about everything, because we're not. This dumb crap that goes on on both sides, I think they want us to be Republicans. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yes. Yes. Exactly. I was a Republican. I was a Democrat. I was a Republican. I was an independent and now I'm non-affiliated and I like it this way. I'm not. I was a Ron Paul guy for the very beginning. That's right. Well, actually everyone's had their moment with libertarianism. But he was Tea Party. That was the Tea Party days, not the libertarians. Then the Tea Party got hijacked and then somehow he was kicked out. He got hijacked by that Texas guy.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Which Texas guy was that? Oh, what's his name? I can almost think of his name. He was one of the Texas congressmen who, he hijacked the party and a conservative Texan guy, but he wasn't really Tea Party. Yeah. I have a, this is probably good to listen to. I'll think of his name.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Yeah. This is NBC overview. So you know, and then we can take them off and tick the boxes. Trump's flurry, flurry of cabinet picks. Tonight President-elect Trump choosing Brooke Rollins to lead the Agriculture Department, saying the Texas native will spearhead efforts to protect American farmers. Rollins, who runs a conservative think tank, is also an alum of Trump's first term, serving as his director of domestic policy. The appointment coming after a barrage of announcements late
Starting point is 00:24:22 Friday night. The president-elect, naming nine key appointees, most in two areas the new White House will be focusing on, public health and the economy. Come on up, Scott. For Treasury Secretary Scott Besant, a hedge fund manager and major donor and economic advisor to the Trump campaign. Besant expected to make good on Trump's promises to cut taxes and raise tariffs on imports. And I let it be known that the tariffs will be about 100 percent. The president-elect also tapping Oregon Congresswoman Lori Chavez-Durima for labor secretary and
Starting point is 00:24:53 Russell Vogt to return as director of the Office of Management and Budget. Vogt has written that a president should take more control of the executive branch. As an administration, the whole notion of an independent agency should be thrown out. Trump also picking a team of doctors to work with his choice for health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. I'm going to let him go wild on health. I'm going to let him go wild on the food. The team to include former Florida congressman, Dr. Dave Weldon for CDC director, Fox News
Starting point is 00:25:20 medical contributor, Dr. Jeanette Neshuswat for Surgeon General, and Johns Hopkins surgeon and researcher Dr. Marty McCary to head the FDA. All of them expected to be disruptors to public health, potentially changing how medicines and food are evaluated. And what is scary and dangerous to health? It's not RFK Jr. It's the food pyramid lie that's been out there for 60 years. The president-elect also making former aide Sebastian Gorka a senior advisor on counter terrorism after he only had a temporary low level security clearance during Trump's first
Starting point is 00:25:53 term according to a then senior US official. Yeah. So I mean, why no one is yelling about Gorka is beyond me. That's the guy that's a wild guy. Also not many talking about Witkoff that seems to be kind of a passe. He's the... Which one's Witkoff? He will be the Middle East envoy. US President-elect Donald Trump has tapped Stephen Witkoff as his special envoy to the
Starting point is 00:26:22 Middle East. Witkoff, a real estate investor and a close ally of the incoming president, played a key role in raising funds from the Jewish business community for Trump's presidential campaign. I know this man very well. President Trump is as kind and compassionate a man as I've ever met in my lifetime. He's no stranger to the Gulf, having worked in US real estate deals with nations like Qatar, but his appointment, in spite of his lack of diplomatic experience, comes at a time when diplomacy is increasingly crucial as Israel intensifies its devastating offensive in Palestine's Gaza. Witkov has raised funds for the Israeli army and is a vocal supporter of Israeli Prime Minister
Starting point is 00:27:02 Benjamin Netanyahu, who has an ICC run out for his arrest over charges related to war crimes. He was in attendance during Netanyahu's speech to US Congress, calling it a spiritual experience. He has called Trump the strongest and most vocal supporter of Israel in generations. Witkoff is the latest addition to a long list of picks tapped for Trump's second term that have a staunch pro-Israel stance. Yeah, so he's no good. Pro-Israel, Zionists, probably no good.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Mossad, no good. This is exhausting. I'm going to be honest. It's exhausting. Because Trump keeps you busy. Everybody just take a breath. You got a couple months, take a breath. So it's going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Let's see what happens. And then, because you can already predict it, it's going to be months of confirmation hearings. We'll be watching C-SPAN. Everybody picking everybody apart. And then they're all going to get in and nothing's going to really change. Who are we kidding here? Well, what's going to change is the economy is going to take a big dump. Well, not right away. It's going to be booming and it's going to continue to do so. Well, the timing is, you never exactly know the timing and what will... No, the timing is always...
Starting point is 00:28:15 Yes, this is a fact. And you never know the causation. If you study all the stock market crashes over history, the causations are always different. And they're only available to you in hindsight. You can't- Give me three, give me three. So nothing is the same? Nothing is, they've never been an identical trigger?
Starting point is 00:28:38 No, for example, in the 70s, the causation was this thing called stagflation. Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. That never existed before. Wait a minute, didn't that have to do with the 71 going off the gold standard? Didn't that just- No, it already, it crashed in 69. It crashed before.
Starting point is 00:28:54 This going off the gold standard was an attempt to correct the problem. No, the gold standard thing took place after the crash. The crash took place in 1969. I remember it very well. And then it lingered until you had this high inflation rate and you had this thing called stagflation. That's never happened before.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Right. Well, we thought we came close. The recent 2007, 2008 thing was a liquidity crisis and it had to do with the letters of credit. It had to do with these mortgage-backed bonds, you know, these bull crap mortgage things that were just useless. And they were shipped to Europe mostly who mocked us for doing them. And then they found out that they were stuck with most of them. That's brand new idea.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I like that one. Yeah. I think what I'm seeing though, is a global push. So if you want to talk conspiracy, it appears to me that the United States, Russia and China are colluding together to enter into a war, a global war economy. And it makes sense for everybody, you know, because then we just hunker down, we all got to build stuff. We have to build a missile shield. You got to build the ships. Well, that's as close as you can get to controlling the public.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yeah. But it seems like that's where it's going. And oh man, NATO and also the health care industry, they're all doing everything they can, also COP29, please let's not do that, we'll do that later. Because the whole idea of Obama interrupted by Trump but then into Biden, the whole idea was the new economy is green. So that means new opportunities, mainly for people that have meetings and eat steak and fly in private jets and go everywhere for these meetings three times a year. Lots of meetings. But it's like solar panels and windmills and electric vehicles, all of these things, that was supposed to be the new economy.
Starting point is 00:31:05 And Trump is coming and saying, no, no, no, we're going to stick with what we have. And that's a big disruptor. And so now we see, besides the fact that it's a failed idea, we see Germany, which is the motor of the European Union, no Germany, no European Union. And they can't, they're having trouble manufacturing things because of a lack of affordable energy. So what are you going to do? Well, if you just say, if you just say, oh, there's war. And I think that it seems that, you know, there's pieces coming in Ukraine. You know, there are Zelensky is even openly kind of talking about how we're,
Starting point is 00:31:44 you know, how we're going to do this and we're going to have a buffer zone. Actually the buffer zone thing is interesting. Let me see, where is it? I have them here somewhere. I think it's, maybe it's this one. A formal invitation has long been on Zelensky's wish list but in the Transatlantic Alliance it has been greeted with resistance from many members and that means Ukraine needs
Starting point is 00:32:12 other options to assure its security if it reaches a peace deal with Russia. Ukraine will not be going into NATO. There has to be however some form of guarantee so that Ukrainians understand that the Russians simply won't start this over next year and that certain elements of the West, particularly the US, UK, France, will be ready to stand in should that take place. That means bilateral security guarantees. And I think those are much, much, much more likely than any kind of NATO arrangement. Ukraine has already entered into bilateral security agreements
Starting point is 00:32:46 with 27 of its allies. They pledge long-term support for Ukrainian self-defense by providing assistance to boost Ukraine's military capabilities and shore up Ukraine's economy and governance. But they do not contain any commitments to come to Ukraine's defense with the deployment of armed forces In response to future Russian aggression. Yeah, that's not the one somewhere I have a clip where they talk about the buffer zone Which will be you know in this region where supposedly 11,000 Koreans are walking around So well, that's cursed because where the Koreans are they're not in Ukraine. No, they're well, but remember, Russia doesn't want it to be part of the buffer zone. No, but you remember the what they're talking about. I'm not saying that's what the deal will
Starting point is 00:33:33 be. They're talking about is that, you know, 10 square kilometers that Ukraine went into. Look at us. Look at what we did. We're awesome. We're winning that that would be part of the buffer zone. I mean, this is coming to an end. And so they're already trying to figure out. Okay How do we set everybody up, you know, Psyop the European Union? Oh, you know, we got it We got to have all kinds of stuff. We got to supply Ukraine with everything except nuclear weapons We got a supply with everything so we have to have the war economy created I mean that that just seems like in China, of course, for us it will be China and the the Patsy in the middle is going to be Taiwan.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Well, for all we know, they're in on it too. This is this is the kind of stuff that you have to look at. You can step back and say, first, we're not going to die. There's not going to be to be nuclear war. This is just, it hasn't stopped. It hasn't stopped. People are just... No, we have an end of show clip which emphasizes it, it's quite funny. Helped by, here's Putin's former,
Starting point is 00:34:36 let me see, his former foreign minister. Boy, I'm really failing today. You okay? No, I'm not okay. Where's his former foreign minister? Let me see. Putin. What is his current foreign minister? No, this is Sergei Markov.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Sergei Markov, he's the former spokes hole, not foreign minister, but spokes hole for Putin. And he goes on the BBC, which is what you do if you want to communicate something to the international community and he says oh this is the war which you started against us i think it's extremely extremely interesting he's good right do you think president Putin would be prepared to use nuclear weapons uh not now, for sure. I think the response could be also by sending Grotier missiles from American military base on the Polish and German territory. It's one of the possible solutions. But I think that Biden, Macron and Steinberg, they want escalation which
Starting point is 00:35:41 could lead to the nuclear war. And from my understanding, in the worst scenario, the nuclear war happened before Christmas of this year. Probably you will be not able to say Merry Christmas because you will stay in the hall, trying to hide away your family from the nuclear catastrophe. It can develop very, very quickly. We're not gonna be able to say Merry Christmas because we'll be hiding in the hole. Now, what he mentioned there, this is the new narrative
Starting point is 00:36:13 and I haven't really heard it in the US yet, which Putin is thinking about. I'm thinking about attacking US bases in Poland and I got a, I think a message from- Yeah, the ones that have the missiles. I've heard this. Yeah. So this is from a very reliable source, not the old reliable sources, new reliable sources. It's not the reliable source. They had the quantum dots and the ballots. No, I've since upgraded my sources. A very close relative is a field grade officer, an army special operator of this source of mine who was now deployed in Poland. He believes that a Russian attack on Poland will be suicide for Russia. He concedes that it would be a war of
Starting point is 00:36:58 attrition, but believes that the US and Poland would F them up. As an old veteran myself, says my source. I'm familiar with the American weaponry, but our arsenal isn't the only reason he thinks we prevail. His comment was that the Poles are excellent warriors dedicated to the nation and to this day have a never again mentality about Russian meddling. This is not the kind of country you want to attack, especially when it's backed by a power like the United States.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Worth mentioning Poland is significantly less corrupt than Ukraine, at least according to sources. It has to be. Everything is. Everything is less corrupt than Ukraine. Just as a side note on the whole- That sounds like a reasonable report to me. Yeah. A side note on the whole nuclear war.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Oh, we got to be so afraid. You remember the pamphlets that we played the clip from that was going around? Oh, they're handing out nuclear war pamphlets in Sweden. So boots on the ground from one of our Swedish producers. This fact is this pamphlet has been around since the Cold War, has always been a part of the Swedish civil defense. There was a long period of time in the early two thousands when the government decided there won't be any more war. And thus the pamphlet was discontinued.
Starting point is 00:38:10 But in 2020, when we ran out of toilet paper and white bread, the pamphlet was reinstated together with state radio shows like bear discop readiness. So this is nothing new whatsoever. Wait, you're telling me that because of the shortage of toilet paper, they did this as a distraction. No, I think to use it as toilet paper is what I would know. I don't think that's true.
Starting point is 00:38:33 What I'm thinking. It's obviously a distraction. No, it's a distraction. That would be the, oh, you run out of toilet paper. So what, look, what's going to happen. There's nothing compared to what's coming. Um, I, I do have. I do have, if you want to dive into it for a second, CBS had a pretty interesting, I got a series of medium range clips here about the ballistic missiles. We probably saw the clips. Russia deployed a ballistic missile and it popped open the payload and then five separate charges came out and blew up some stuff there in Ukraine. This may be interesting to get some thoughts on.
Starting point is 00:39:11 NATO is set to hold an emergency meeting on Tuesday after Russia tested a new intermediate-range ballistic missile on Ukraine. Some tests. It seemed like a real deployment to me. The new missiles have the ability to carry nuclear capable weapons Vladimir Putin says the law I have the capability to carry a nuclear weapon I mean, why is this supposed to be scared? I don't know why you know, they but you're right. This is an interesting point They've been saying this as though it's some new thing if you remember I think it was even as far back as the 60s or 70s
Starting point is 00:39:44 When you were a little kid. They, they were talking about new nuclear tipped, artillery shells. Yep. Where you had a big gun and you could shoot this, shoot us artillery shell five miles and it was a nuke. Now, if you could do that, obviously you can put a nuke on anything, on a Volkswagen.
Starting point is 00:40:05 So why are they emphasizing this? It's dumb. No, it's to spin you up and get you ready for the war economy. When I was a kid in the 70s in Europe, it was the neutron bomb. Yes, I remember. Well, that was really promoted by Reagan in the 80s more than I think at the 70s. I know it was developed, I think it was developed in the 70s. Somebody has to look it up, but I know Reagan was seriously discussing them and he got shut down for talking about it too much because-
Starting point is 00:40:35 Just so people know what the neutron bomb was. And there were kids, kids get out of school early in Holland to march against the American use of the neutron bomb, which I think was also a Pointer Sisters song. But the neutron bomb would kill the people, but save the buildings. Yes, it was a bomb that was a hydrogen bomb type device that didn't have any, didn't explode necessarily. It just gave out copious amounts of deadly neutrons by the boatload and it would kill everything within like a 10 mile radius dead, anything that was living. But then you could move back in later into the building. You could just haul the corpses out and you had a whole town to yourself. Yeah, you just turn off the tea kettle and you're good to go.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Neutron bomb. Neutron bomb. The new missiles have the ability to carry nuclear capable weapons. Russian President Vladimir Putin says the launch was in response to Ukraine's recent use of long range missiles provided by the US inside his country. CBS News International national security correspondent Charlie Daggett joins us now from the Pentagon. So Charlie, from the Pentagon, what's the fact that Russia is testing these intermediate missiles signal to Ukraine, the US and its allies? Does it change the trajectory of this war? I love the testing. What is
Starting point is 00:41:56 this testing? They deployed it. They deployed the missile. It's not a test. Before you continue with this clip, there's also a couple of other things that came out. The way they describe it as a medium missile, one group described as the first use of an ICBM in the history of the world that actually got deployed. And then another group, news group I'm talking about, described as the hypersonic test missile. Yeah, three kilometers per second. So it's either hypersonic ICBM or whatever this other thing is they're talking about and they all had MIRVs and they're all could be nuclear tipped and it was a test or something. I don't know. This is terrible reported.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And they had a CGI animation of it spinning in the air. Look at it go. I'm telling you that when I saw that first time I saw that video, that's when the first thing came to mind. This is CGI. Well that was CGI. I've only seen the CGI version. You know, like that guy in the Tesla. Well they're not presenting it as CGI. They're presenting it as if somebody took a video with their camera or something. Yeah right. Phone. It does, Lindsay. It does for the people that I've spoken to. While some US officials say Russia likely only possesses a handful of these experimental missiles, I've been told they pose a unique threat. So they're capable of reaching 3,000 miles.
Starting point is 00:43:18 They carry a multiple payload system. It's called a multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles. Oh, I like multiple independently targeted reentry vehicle. How about missile? Just missile. This is important because as the missile descends, those multiple warheads can be released at different speeds and different directions. Amazing. Potentially spread over a thousand miles. So that, combined with its lofted trajectory, challenges even the most advanced of Ukraine's air defense systems. Advanced.
Starting point is 00:43:50 So the missile that we saw at Dnieper focused on one area, and we've seen some of the videos. So it came over overhead and then unleashed six warheads down to a concentrated area. It's unlike anything that they've seen on the battlefields of Ukraine. And yes, the term that they've used here, they're not worried, but they're concerned. Wait a minute. There's no worry. It's just concerned. Well, now comes, this is very troubling to me because I know language changes over time, but I feel like when you use the term decimated or decimate, it still hurts me to say, oh, you mean completely wiped out? No, that's 10%. And I don't think, has there ever really been
Starting point is 00:44:34 a change in the dictionary term of decimated? I think if you look at definition number three or four, when they get down to the newer versions, I think it does have a connotation that it's wiped out when it doesn't really mean that. It technically doesn't mean it. Okay, so I'm looking at Miriam Webster, which is what we usually use. Yeah, because they switch their definitions faster than anybody else.
Starting point is 00:44:57 So they still have it as a transitive verb, to select by lot and kill every 10th man. That should be number one. It is number one. Definition number two, to extract attacks of 10%, number three, to reduce drastically, especially in number, and then three B, to cause great destruction or harm to. So when you're talking in military terms, I feel that decimate means a tenth. Anyway, here's the problem.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Just days are over. Could Russia essentially decimate Ukraine with a handful of these missiles they have left? Well, Lindsay, not decimate, but just for instance, right? So we've seen and I've been there when Russia has unleashed a number of S-300 missiles, which are anti-aircraft missiles. They get plenty of reach. They get the Shahed Iranian drones that can come in.
Starting point is 00:45:50 But say Lviv, right? Lviv is way far west, very close to the Polish border. This comes in at a different trajectory than a cruise missile, which is easier to intercept, and the missile defense systems are in place to do that. But if they were to launch, if Russia were to launch a number of these missiles at the same time, Ukraine would really struggle to take them down.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And this, I think what we saw in Dnieper, we're only talking about maybe 750 miles from Russia, they could throw anything at Dnieper and they have. I think that was messaging to say, this is what we've got, and this is what we can do with it. That was messaging. Okay. Well, how will Ukraine respond? How is Ukraine expected to respond? Well, you know, mostly they'll be asking for more defense systems. They're going to need
Starting point is 00:46:38 more patriot defense systems. They're going to need real defense. Real defense. There's concern. Money. For the first time, really, I believe, since the war began, they had to shut down their parliament. Just yesterday, the United States shut down its embassy. We had had a warning that a new missile was going to be tested days before it happened,
Starting point is 00:46:58 and we reported that. That just shows you that in a place where air raid sirens are pretty much a you know, a fact of daily life Some people don't even rush to the shelters They are now because of the unpredictability of what this weapon poses now The reason why I said earlier that it seems like all these three major superpowers russia the united states and china are all in cahoots Is because you know, we're going to have to change some... The reason for NATO is so we can standardize the weapons. So you kind of lock everybody in. Standardize it on Lockheed, Boeing.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Yeah. You lock them into our US standards. You have to use your 5 3 8 quarter inch, instead of the wrench 10 11 or 10 12, whatever it is in Europe with centimeters. And you want to have the standardized bullets and shells, all of that. So you're locked into our events. Yeah, the 155. So they're going to do that one way or the other. Now to add to it so that we can have another market to sell to, I think that's the whole reason for this North Korea nonsense.
Starting point is 00:48:12 South Korea says Russia supplied air defense systems to North Korea in exchange for troops to support the Kremlin's war with Ukraine. What more are we learning about this? Yeah, so this came from intelligence and South Korean foreign ministry who essentially underlining what they said was going to happen, certainly with the American, the United States and others were worried about North Korea sent 11,000 troops to Russia. Why are we worried about it? Why are we worried about it?
Starting point is 00:48:39 Why are we worried? It's South Korea. I mean, no offense. But we're so worried about so so what no, we're not This you walk on the street you worried about South Korea. Will anybody say? Oh, yeah, I'm so worried about South Korea No, you're right We don't need that they immediately started saying well, wait a minute What do they get in return and this seems to be an indication so they have anti aircraft missiles?
Starting point is 00:49:05 get in return and this seems to be an indication. So they have anti-aircraft missiles that are being supplied to North Korea. Not that big a deal, but in terms of the technology, what they're more capable of, I mean, North Korea's got their own air defense systems. This is new because it's Russian. They're also trading technology. According to the same statement, the Russians are providing North Korea with oil and that is against sanctions. Oh, no. Not that it much matters with those two countries, but... You cut off Russia from the financial system, you forbid EU to take in oil, which of course they're still doing, and then, oh, what's against sanctions?
Starting point is 00:49:39 Russia is supplying oil to North Korea. That's no good. That's that sort of cooperation. This is a two-way street 11,000 North Korean troops and you consider Tremendous losses that Russia is suffering is really just a drop in the ocean You have to ask yourself what North Korea is getting in exchange for that. Oh, what are they getting exchange? You have to ask yourself. I don't want to ask myself this last clip. So Yeah, who cares everybody's got there to coin your phrase, tit in a ringer about Trump coming in and
Starting point is 00:50:10 NATO. So time for an emergency meeting. Ukraine is hoping for concrete and meaningful outcomes at next week's emergency NATO meeting. What is Kiev asking for? Are they going to be asking for more of those defense systems? Do you know, Lindsay, that is what I just read that statement. And that's where the statement ends. But it's a refrain that we've heard time and time again.
Starting point is 00:50:31 They want concrete productivity out of these meetings. You know, they can't have platitudes. NATO is concerned, Poland especially is concerned about the development of this new weapon. Russia has got plenty of weapons that can reach NATO countries. It's what this weapon represents. And I also have to keep drilling down about this. You know, the United States just had a $275 million aid package promised to Ukraine. There's something like $5 billion in aid on the table right now. It's called a surge that the Biden administration said that they want to get.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I can see the board meetings at Raytheon already. Hey, hey, Bob, there's $5 billion on the table. How are we going to get that? We want most of that. That's our money. To Ukraine. And the clock is ticking. You know, the Ukrainians know it.
Starting point is 00:51:22 The Russians know it. We're headed to a new administration. Nobody's entirely sure whether that support for Ukraine will continue past January 20th. So there's very much a hurry up offense, particularly with the development of these new weapons. The United States has allowed these attack them. That's a good catch. Hurry up offense. Whenever has a hurry up offense been a good strategy?
Starting point is 00:51:45 I don't think it's. It is a good strategy. It's always a good strategy. Why? That's the thing you need to know. Why? The reason it's a football term and it refers to a hurry up offense, which is hard to do because it poops you out.
Starting point is 00:51:57 But if you can pull it off, it keeps the other team so they can't do any substitutions during the play and they have to keep their guys in there and then you keep running and dragging. And if you can outlast them in terms of the ability to have more stamina, then they'll be beaten back and you'll beat the crap out of them with a hurry up offense. So it's a good strategy. Is the wishbone a part of the hurry ups? No. It's something else. It's a sexual strategy. Is the wishbone a part of the... No, it's not. It's something else.
Starting point is 00:52:26 That's a sexual position. 20th, so there's very much a hurry up offense, particularly with the development of these new weapons. You know, the United States has allowed these Atacams, longer range weapons to be used on Russian soil. That's a major development. And it's one of the reasons that President Putin said he's unleashed this new weapon directly because of that in Britain's storm shadow. So we've seen a huge escalation in the past week or so.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Ukraine's been out of the headlines for a long time. We have teams there once again. This is front page news. Oh, we have teams, front page. We're talking about it now. This is going to accelerate and increase as we get closer to January. So mockingbird media, the TV stations fighting for their lives, they got teams out there again, because their military sponsors demand it. We demand coverage. We have to have coverage.
Starting point is 00:53:17 We need that. There's five billion on the table right now. It's just a drop in the bucket compared to our trillion dollar annual budget. But we want it for Christmas. It's just a drop in the bucket compared to our trillion dollar annual budget. But we want it for Christmas. It's our Christmas bonus. And the relatively young German foreign minister, what's her name? Her name is Alina, Alina, Alina Baerbach. She weighs in. We are in the midst of a geopolitical power play by a few fossil fuel states. Their playing board is the base of the poorest...
Starting point is 00:53:49 A power... fossil fuel states. Fossil fuel states? Yes. What does that mean? It means America, Russia, what other fossil fuel states are there? It's us. Us and Russia. This is a power play. Is that bad? Is she implying that fossil fuel states are a bad group of mean people or what?
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yes, because they don't have any energy. They have to buy it from us. Hey, they had all those nukes. Why don't they just crank them back up with the idiots to shut those down? Yeah. But that's exactly it. The power play was within your own government, Annalena. That was the power play. And so everyone, oh, we don't want Russian gas.
Starting point is 00:54:35 And then, oh, we'll just take it from America. Sure. Sure, we'll do that. Twice the price. Yes. Their playing board is the backs of the poorest and most vulnerable countries. Now she's trying to make it sound like poor people in Africa. No, no, that's the COP 29. This is different. We as the European Union will not accept a deal that comes at the expense of those who suffer most from the effects of climate crisis. The ones that are getting killed? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Well, hold on a second. Yeah. At the expense of the dead. The ones that are getting killed? Yeah. Hold on a second. At the expense of the dead Ukrainians? Is that what she's trying to imply here? This is the widows and the orphans of the dead Ukrainians. That's what she's talking about. They're not poor and sad. No kidding. Good job.
Starting point is 00:55:19 We as the European Union will not accept a deal that comes at the expense of those who suffer most from the effects of climate crises. There it is. We will not allow the most vulnerable, especially the small island states... She brings in everything. Well, listen, the small island states, now she's going off the reservation. We will not allow the most vulnerable, especially the small island states, to be ripped off by the new fuel rich fossil fuel emitters who have the backing, unfortunately, at this
Starting point is 00:55:52 moment of the presidency. Ripped off? Yeah, ripped off. Yeah, we're ripping them. How are they getting ripped off? Nobody's even bothering them. Getting ripped off as a... Does she even know what that means?
Starting point is 00:56:07 She's a Gen Z-er. So she can do what she can say whatever she wants. Well, she's an idiot. The Germans have lost the plot. Yeah, they have. They have. They have. Okay, there's two things... There are three things I need to say. One, this is...
Starting point is 00:56:24 Because it came up on the show and I can't remember the context of it, but we were talking about wireless power from space. Yes. So the US Army has just contracted Raytheon to replace fuel lines with beamed power, which is where's the power coming from?
Starting point is 00:56:50 I'm not quite sure how that's going to work. I just always imagine a bird flying through the beam and just poof, gone fire. The second, German industrialists are very worried about Trump's return. Why? Because they're worried that Trump's return. Why? Because they're worried that he's going to, all of Europe, my family, like, Hey, it's probably good for America that Trump is going to be president again. Bad for us though, because we won't, oh, this is literally, we won't be able to export anything. I said, where are you getting this from?
Starting point is 00:57:23 Oh brother. I said, cars, you getting this from? Oh brother. I said cars, cars maybe. What? Yeah. No, even cars. Come on. Is it their electric maybe? Italy is worried about exporting their olive oil and oh no, my sister, my sister. Like, oh no. Are you nuts?
Starting point is 00:57:41 We have such an insatiable appetite for imports that we're all of a sudden, well, we're going to make our, everyone's going to be using California olive oil. We can't barely supply the state, let alone the world. What are they, crazy? No, they have new sources who are spinning them up. Oh man. And then this one, we had been, I, we had been wondering where, uh, Victoria Noodleman is gone. Yes. Yeah. We're always wondering where she's gone. Whatever, whatever bad,
Starting point is 00:58:13 this is like, she's like a, like a bad penny. Well, you know where she showed up? She is now an ambassador to the National Endowment for Democracy. Oh, that makes sense. Which is an obvious spook operation, slush fund for the State Department and intelligence. Yeah, I'm surprised they haven't sent us money. Right. So she will be doing public advocacy and representation as a high-profile representative. NED, the ambassador engages in public speaking, participates in global forums, and represents
Starting point is 00:58:50 the organization's mission to advance democracy. Look out some democracy incoming and civil society, both domestically and internationally. Diplomatic engagement, the ambassador helps to foster strategic partnerships with governments. I like the way they use the term, loosely use the term ambassador as if she's representing a country. This is like you're the ambassador. Oh yeah, Ambassador Adam Curry is the ambassador for the No Agenda Show. Next year, if we're still alive, God willing, we need to give out ambassadorships. Boom. If, I mean, if the National Endowment for Democracy can name someone an ambassador,
Starting point is 00:59:34 I think we can. We need, by the way, we need no agenda ambassadors to represent us in foreign countries. I think we can do it before year end. The ambassador provides strategic advice to NED leadership. That's right, our ambassadors will provide us with strategic advice on key global political trends and opportunities. This actually sounds like a no agenda gig. Offering expertise on how to effectively address challenges facing democratic institutions and then
Starting point is 01:00:03 the best part fundraising and advocacy. You see how this fits in with us? In addition to representing NED publicly, the ambassador plays a vital role in promoting the organization's initiatives, helping to secure funding, building alliances and mobilize support for democracy. You've got to put this text aside, I can use it.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Well, it's on their website, but yes, yes. I've got the text aside. I can use it. Well, it's on their website, but yes, yes. I, I, I've got the text for you. Uh, so anyway, to summarize, a new TDS is unhealthy. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Instead let's go back to TDS Classic, uh, because I just, I need to fit these, these two clips in. Well good, because it leads me to my TikTok clips. I promised I could play. I didn't promise it. One person sends an email and you're all encouraged. One
Starting point is 01:00:56 producer sends an email. Are you referring to the, to the female listener who said that the TikTok clips are the best part of the show. Is that the one you're talking about? Yes. Yes. And now you're all encouraged. I'm always encouraged. I don't need, I thank her for the notice, but I don't need encouragement. No. So are you familiar with Jennifer Rubin, columnist for WAPO? Well, we talked about her before. You just don't remember it, but she is, she's the one who always came. She was always listed as the, as the conservative blogger columnist. She's supposed to be a blogger. This was years ago.
Starting point is 01:01:37 She would always be considered the blog, a blogger conservative. She was always billed by the WAPO as a conservative when she has no conservative leanings whatsoever. She's pretty much a communist. She's conservative? This is what they've been trying to sell the public because they wanted to have a few balanced colonists. They had all these different colonists.
Starting point is 01:01:59 And so she was dubbed a conservative and she would basically just rail against conservatism because it's not what it should be, which is communism. No, I think this is an evergreen. This is an evergreen by the conservative columnist of WAPO. And for people who don't get political news, who never pick up a newspaper, who never turn on CNN, who never even bother with Fox News. Those people really have no idea what's going on.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And that means we have to bend over backwards, not to suck up to these people, not to make excuses for them, but at least to communicate the basic facts. You don't have a vaccine because you're not getting a child tax credit because all the good things that are happening at the state level, they have to know why they're getting those things. Oh, you have a chip manufacturing plant because a democratic president put that into effect and a democratic governor went out and solicited bids and now you have X number of thousands of jobs. It's that simple. You can't talk broad themes. You have to boil it
Starting point is 01:03:14 down to nuts and bolts and you have to be pithy. What do I mean by pithy? Pithy. Okay. So what she's doing here, the conservative blogger is explaining how Democrats need to explain to other Democrats who have withdrawn, withdrawn from news. You have to explain to them how bad it really is. And you need to be pithy. What is the definition of pithy? Do you know that offhand? Oh, it's just boiling it down to the, the, the, the, the essence, I think is what I would, I would define it. Pithy, concise and full meaning. But this part that you're going to play, I think is what I would define it. Pithy, concise and full meaning.
Starting point is 01:03:46 But this part that you're going to play, I'm sorry, this part you're going to play next is the only part that's really been floating around. And I think this is what you mean by the evergreen. This woman is an idiot. And you have to be pithy. What do I mean by pithy? How about this? Republicans want to kill your kids. It's actually true.
Starting point is 01:04:06 It's true. If you're going to oppose vaccinations, if you're going to stop breakthrough medical research, if you're going to allow minors and all sorts of people to get semi-automatic weapons, which they use to shoot up schools, well then you are responsible for kids' health and death, unfortunately. It has to be that simple and that direct and it has to be over and over and over again. There it is, America. Either your kids are going to be dead or your boy's going to be a girl. I mean, the choice is yours, America.
Starting point is 01:04:42 And then the dial, the editor of the dial. She is, this is that particular clip, I could have clicked, this had been going around for a couple of weeks. I was almost tempted to click, but it's, it annoys me so much to listen to her and her, and her self-righteous approach. She's patronizing, she's terrible. She's, and she's just full of herself. And this is, she's worse than anybody out there and and To think that she and she's on video doing this on her podcast
Starting point is 01:05:13 business doing video, yeah But the issue is and this is what we've seen we got early reports from Youtubers and we're seeing an overall downtrend, a withdrawal. Only the super angry have gone over to weep on blue sky, but people have given up. I think that a big difference of Trump 2 versus Trump 1 is that people are really burnt out. I'm hearing all around me, you know, I'm just going to not read the news. I'm tuning it out I don't have to care about this anymore. And I think that that's true among, you know
Starting point is 01:05:50 Democrats writ large with the party is in disarray. No one knows what to go people are tired of Fighting and they're tired of fighting with each other and it's also true among the activists there was a sense in you know know, Trump, when Trump was first elected in 2016, of, you know, people coming together can stop bad things and that, you know, that kind of energy takes a lot to be sustained over time and what we're seeing now is a lot of sense of being tired and you know, this is exactly what's happening. People have given up. People have given up, they're tired of fighting. They're like, okay, whatever. You know, they see that, especially after the
Starting point is 01:06:38 Hitler, you know, he's going to turn the military on you on election day, all of this stuff turned out to be not true. And so people rightfully are given up and they need to be embraced. I'm just saying we need to embrace them. In fact, we need to embrace people like, I was quite surprised by this, Brian Williams. Brian Williams, who did the election coverage for his new job after being exposed as a big phony. If you remember, he got fired for being a big phony. I was under fire. We crashed. What was the helicopter story?
Starting point is 01:07:18 He had about, there was more than one story that he just made up. He got shot down. He got shot down. So he goes on Seth Meyers show, which I didn't know was still on the air because television is really becoming irrelevant except for the clips that we all diligently post on X and social media. Blue Sky, you don't see much of. Blue Sky is just basically Jeff Jarvis complaining all day long.
Starting point is 01:07:42 That's my- Right, is Jeff Jarvis over there? Oh yeah, all those guys are over there. Oh good. Jeff Jarvis, Proffigy. You know what's funny about, I had to change it or move. That's all right. But these guys, they, they build an audience. In fact, there's a couple of them that have
Starting point is 01:07:58 built really huge audiences on Twitter and then they just abandoned them. What kind of thinking is this? Because I have principles. I have scruples, dammit. Scruples. There you go. It's a show title. Here's Brian Williams laying it out succinctly.
Starting point is 01:08:16 It is tough love time for the Democratic Party. I think it needs to be stripped down and rebuilt. I think that means a change in leadership. I want to know who thought it was a good idea that Joe Biden stand for another four years at 80 years of age and 37% popularity. So then that saddled the party with a British-like short campaign season for them. I think it's insulting when members of the working class, which the Democratic Party has lost entirely in our lifetimes, to insist the economy is doing great. A 12-pack of bounty is $40. Rich folks don't feel that. Poor folks already switched to Sparkle during the COVID, during the lockdown. And I think
Starting point is 01:09:07 telling them that the NASDAQ is gangbusters is further insulting. It's insulting, I think the biggest unforced error of the Biden administration by far was the border. To tell people it's not a problem is insulting. For the working class to see incoming migrants getting welcome bags, debit cards and motel rooms is probably insulting as well. So there's a lot of work to do. You know, it was when they handed out camo hats that said Harris Walls and the Democrats were, they were kind of charmed by that. Their party has gone quinoa and the rest of America's eating at Cracker Barrel. And so it was kind of an ironic use of something millions of Americans put on their heads to
Starting point is 01:09:54 start their day every day. Exactly. Where was this Brian Williams on MSNBC? This is a good rant. I'm glad you got it. This rant has been floating around and it is a killer and you're exactly right. Where is this commentary before the election or six months ago or two years ago? Because he's in the milieu.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Believe me, he's no longer invited to, in fact, I don't know if there are dinner parties anymore. The people that did the dinner parties are tired. We're tired. We're just going to go live in the Hamptons for a year or we're going to move to, we're going to go sit in our house in the south of France or whatever. Yeah, I know that's, but that's not too far from the truth with these people. So then we have television and I just include all moving images that come through a cable as television, not YouTube, but television. Linear television who start at the top of the hour and end at the top of the hour with 18 minutes of commercials. They are beside themselves.
Starting point is 01:10:57 They don't know what to do other than justify their existence and the reason you should not be watching Joe Rogan. No, you should not be watching Theo Vaughan. You should not be watching Tucker Carlson. You shouldn't. But there are reasons why you need to be with the big corporate media and I hate to do it but I have to give you a trigger warning because you know what's coming. At the tone, a clip from the view will be played
Starting point is 01:11:28 Shelter in place People want us divided and they aren't just here in this country They're foreign adversaries who are infiltrating our social media because it is prudent for us to stay that way So when you see something that really pisses you off, you should triple check that one, yes But I think that that's why people like our show, because they know that we are checked by ABC News. We're checked by everybody. Yeah. I mean, if we're wrong, we have, you know, the legal note here.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Mm-hmm. Um... Pointing to Sonny Hoston. I think you've been legalized. But in my... We went from Walter Cronkite, basically, to this guy, Joe Rogan, who believes in dragons. I checked it. He believes in dragons. He believes in dragons.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Did you triple-tour his back? Yes, I did. And he also thinks that dragons, I guess like dinosaur-y type of animals, roam the earth when people did. So this is the type of really, really bad information that's going out there. Well, in defense, there are some really good news. But it's possible that Donald Trump did wrong with the Earth when he was in a source over there.
Starting point is 01:12:28 So stupid that she said, oh, no, we fact check everything. And then she goes in, well, yeah, I looked, he believes in dragons. Like what is wrong with these people? People are, even the audience like, ha ha ha, They're running away from this nonsense. It's collapsing onto itself. And after they try to justify their existence, even they just talk about social media. There are some really good news kind of influencer types. And I think it's great that they're getting information about global and current events in front of younger people who maybe don't tune into traditional media. But to Sarah's point, there has to be some fact checking and actually verification of
Starting point is 01:13:07 the things that are shared because I spend a lot of time on Instagram Reels and I'm sort of the things that I get outraged about. And then I says enough about this group. I spend a lot of time on Instagram Reels. Okay. You have a life for life. Oh, that's not even true, but I have the sense to go and look it up. But what I do worry about with this, like blue sky versus X because a lot of people I follow on
Starting point is 01:13:26 X Twitter have now left to go to blue sky. I worry we're all going into our own echo chamber So we had this you know this election that was tense Donald Trump won and the right is gonna stay on X and then the left is all gonna be on blue sky How do we try to talk to each other? Unfortunately, I will have to say how the other side, I think, has driven people away because it's not just discourse. It's nasty name calling, coming after your family, and I'm going to do this to you. And I don't think anyone should have to take that from anybody if they don't have to.
Starting point is 01:14:01 So I think a lot of Republicans who also are getting that because they have opinions that may differ from what is being said, they're moving as well. Because you know, and I know why also, because you know, as I believe, Elon Musk is the actual vice president. I mean, fact check, Elon Musk is the actual, actual vice president. I like the way that clip was structured because it starts off with ABC fact checks, everything we do, so we're great. And then it comes up with something like that. At the end, nobody says anything.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Yeah, exactly. So let's see. Oh, here's the Washington. I'm looking at Blue Sky to see if they're all kind over there because you know, obviously They're getting worse. I understand. I don't go there. I've never even opened that site once I'm gonna have to eventually because you're gonna start bringing it up. So you want to be over there a lot whopper Sebastian I liked I do like the journalists the our fabled journalists that are famous that teach journalism. And there's more than a few of them and they're all biased as hell. And it's just like, wow. And they're all over Blue Sky and mastodon. Well, let's start with the Washington Post. They post on the sky.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Sebastian Gorka, the pugilistic commentator. What does pugilistic mean? That means he's a boxer. That means literally he's a boxer. The pugilistic commentator who leveraged fears about Islam as a threat to Western civilization into a short-lived role in the first Trump administration is poised for a second run inside the White House. Kara Swisher. Let's see what she has. well, she's dumb. Let me see. She's always, well, she posts about cowboy hats. I don't know what her problem is. She posts on cow, what's cowboy hat?
Starting point is 01:15:52 I don't know. Kara Swisher. Uh, Steve Jobs. Uh, she posts a link to Elon Musk. He has, he has to become a beta. Oh man. What? She just posts nonsense. Here's a muppet with a hair
Starting point is 01:16:06 on fire and she posts, this reminds me of the redonkulous Twitter files hair on fire nonsense on steroids, which is to say a whole lot of nothing to show for it. And that's a tragedy for the taxpayer. Huh? She used the word redonkulous. Oh, she does this. She used a gajillion. She used these words all the time. This is all the Rachel Maddow terms. She used a gajillion. She used these words all the time. This is all Rachel Maddow terms. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Let me see if there's Jeff Jarvis, if he's posted anything new. You need to get on the blue sky, man. I'm gonna hold off. Yeah, let's see. Oh, Jeff Jarvis. Elon Musk's investment in Twitter seemed insane, but it gave him his power.
Starting point is 01:16:48 That's it? That's a post? That's a post, yeah. Why would it? What kind of, that's just what's a rando comment out of the blue, just because it's on your mind? I had a wonderful conversation. I have a clever idea. I have a clever comment I'm going to make and then you, that's what you end up posting? He's very, he's a very smart man.
Starting point is 01:17:08 He's a professor. Well he was, I think he's retired. Oh, he does a lot of re-boosting or re-whining, I guess we call it on Blue Sky. Is it whining? You can whine or you can rewind. I don't know. It's called skeets or something.
Starting point is 01:17:26 It's got some screwy name. I mean, we have Boost-A-Toot, Slash-The-X, and Wine on Blue Sky. I can't think of anything else. All right. Let's play a couple of TikTok clips and break this up. Oh, geez. Let's start with, this is back to what you were previously discussing. Let's talk about this. A bunch of these TikTok clips are out there about the Thanksgiving quitters.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Oh, yes. Okay. This is about quitting your family. Yeah. Quit the family because they voted for Trump. Okay. Hold on. I'm not going home for Thanksgiving this year. I'm 31 and it's my first time standing up
Starting point is 01:18:09 to my family like this and it honestly feels like a huge relief. I'm not doing this to punish them or to be petty, but I did let them know that it just makes me too angry and upset to be around them right now. And this Thanksgiving, I simply have to excuse myself from the family table. I debated going to Thanksgiving and making a huge scene and having a blowout over politics. But in the end, I actually don't think that that's going to be effective or a good use of my energy. I genuinely feel that letting them know that this is really personal to me and it does
Starting point is 01:18:38 affect me and that this is something that will keep me from family holidays is actually kind of a way to get through to conservative boomer families more so than anything else. And my goal really isn't to change their mind because they've been pretty deeply entrenched in their value set for many, many years. And it's the one they indoctrinated me into. But with Thanksgiving coming on the heels of such an atrocious election, I just thought I would share that I'm doing something differently this year and that it's sad, but it feels right.
Starting point is 01:19:04 I mean, so what happens is you see this and you think, but what do you think when you when you see this clip? You think, wow, what a crazy person. What do you think? Well, I'm looking, she's 31, so she's a mature woman, bordering on middle-aged. She obviously is a cat lady and she now she's standing up to her parents for the first time as the, wait, didn't you move out of the house? she's standing up to her parents for the first time as the wait We didn't you move out of the house as you that's standing up to your parents. You know, they'd like to keep you there I mean, there's a This was no I see a pathetic soul
Starting point is 01:19:35 Yes, that it but I see it differently from you. I see it as someone who is lonely Because she probably gave up on men as well, you know, because you know, Trump is going to make men toxic again. Well, she didn't have a shaved head. So there's that. That's beside the point. And she's so lonely and sorrowed, perhaps depressed that she wants to, she's crying out for help and she does, she's probably going to go to Thanksgiving. She's just saying this to get likes on TikTok and people say you go girl you're right you sell them you should you should stand up that
Starting point is 01:20:10 it's all it is complete ego is egotism and narcissism. Why else are you doing this on video on TikTok? I could have put together 30 of these clips. Yeah, of course, because it's a competition. You want more like, it's like dopamine. You can do coke or you can post on TikTok. What's the difference? It makes you feel good. I think it's pathetic. I mean, I'm not going to argue against your interpretation, but it's, it may,
Starting point is 01:20:40 maybe it makes you feel good, but it makes people have a, it, I don't know what it's supposed to, it gives you negatives. It's a negative performance. This is not a good thing to do. It's unhealthy. It sells. She's not been selling anything. Let's go with the arrogant girl. I am happily every Maga man's worst nightmare. Like keep those cowboy hats and those little boots away from me, baby boy. I don't want to be a part of it. Like I'm divorced. I'm liberal.
Starting point is 01:21:12 I don't go to church. I don't cook. I'm a nurse who believes in vaccination and modern medicine. Like you don't keep that yee-haw away from me. Again, she craves the cowboy. She wants the cowboy, but she's so stuck in her psychosis that she has to say, just so you know, I don't want you cowboy. Stay away from me cowboy. I believe in vaccines cowboy.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Come on cowboy. Come on. No, stay away from me cowboy. This is. These people need help and they're reaching out and you are just excoriating them. I'm divorced. I can't cook. Come on lady. What a thing to brag about. She's not bragging. It's a cry for help. The way she presented it, this is a good looking woman and she is bragging about being divorced and she can't cook because you know, I'm worth it. No, no. She's saying I need help. I need to learn how to cook.
Starting point is 01:22:17 She's never going to cook. You can tell. Okay. And then we have this one, which is the last one of this group. Cause I played one last show. Oh gosh. And this is a promotion for Wicked. With the Wicked.com everybody don't go there. This is a video for all you MAGA supporters out there. Today is the Wicked premiere and I just want to provide you with a gentle reminder that this is not for you. The entire movie is about a girl who's marginalized based on the color of her skin and fights for her individuality.
Starting point is 01:22:49 If you go to see this movie and I see you rooting for anyone but the wizard, I swear to God. She got paid for that. She got paid. She got paid for that. That's a native ad. She got paid for that. Oh, that's good, easy, easy money.
Starting point is 01:23:02 She got paid for that one. You know, we were talking about what the zoomers are doing and I think it was the dating clip that you had about... Yeah, that's the one I played last show. Yeah, that if you go on as a dude, then you get maybe... You can play it again. It's short. It's a good clip.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Dating. What was it? Yeah, dating app story. It's not good clip. Dating. What was it? Yeah, dating app story. It's not short. Okay. So one of my guy friends gave me permission to make a hinge account for him because I was telling him how easy dating is with dating apps. And he was telling me that it's incredibly difficult.
Starting point is 01:23:41 And I was like, Pete, you must be doing something wrong. And he gave me permission to create an account for him and just run the account. I've been a virtual boy for three days and I've never felt this bad about myself. I feel like a freaking loser trying to get these girls to like me. And I'm starting to hate women because I'm like,
Starting point is 01:24:02 when I say I, I mean Pete, because that's the account I'm using. Pete's about a six, but I'm so desperate. I'm liking the twos and the threes, and even they won't like me back, Pete, which is a six. So what level of delusion has entered a woman's head? Heads. Like, what is going on?
Starting point is 01:24:19 It is so difficult dating as a boy. I hate it. I'm on day three of being a boy and I hate women and I'm more depressed than ever. All right, so I've gotten some feedback on this particular clip in the conversation we had. The first one is go outside to date. Do not try, go to, you know what?
Starting point is 01:24:40 I think most people probably meet their future mate at work. So go to the office, you only have to go twice a week. Go to the office, you might meet somebody you like. Go to some social club or go to a bar or go to church or get outside to meet people. This is not the way to meet people. What is happening on these dating apps is trans maxing. Because my obvious conclusion turns out to be not off base, that this is where a lot of young men, I'm talking 17 to 23,
Starting point is 01:25:18 who are indoors, not going outside to date, sitting indoors, they're doing video games, they can't get a six, a six, they can't get a two to swipe right on them. And then, you know what? I want to, I want to have, people need affection, compassion. Like, what if I dress up as a girl and boom, boom, you're celebrated. You're a TikTok star. You get likes. This is a most convoluted theory, but it's something I'm not going to argue with too strongly.
Starting point is 01:25:45 But yeah, you might be right here. This is a pretty indicting of the culture if what you're saying is even remotely true. And remember we talked about the hypno-porn or hypno-trans where these boys get into watching certain type of porn where they whisper in your ear, you're a girl, you know, that kind of stuff. And then flashing, you got the flashing screens. I am doing this as a service to parents of young men. Kick them out of the house. Kick them out of the house, right. Give them a motorcycle to tinker with, anything.
Starting point is 01:26:22 And then this, we were talking about Chatroulette. We were talking about Chatroulette. Maybe we should reiterate Chatroulette. You hooked up your little Logitech ball webcam and you went on Chatroulette and it would switch screens and you could stop at a certain point. It would switch screens and there'd be a person and every fifth screen was some fat naked dude jerking off. So I got a note from, from Michael, he says, I'm a zoomer and I love our zoomers, 19 years old, listening to the show.
Starting point is 01:26:56 I'd never heard of- By the way, zoomers who listen to this show are sharp. They're going to run the country. They are the future leaders of our country. They have good observational skills. That's the key. A lot of them are quite conservative, want children. It's encouraging.
Starting point is 01:27:14 I'm a Zoomer, 19, I've never heard of Chatroulette. No kidding. But I know the concept. When I was... There's other things out there nowadays I think that are insane. Well, here we go. When I was in my early teens, an app called Omegle... Omegle, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Or Meggly, I don't know how you pronounce it. Yeah, I've heard of it. Of course you have. Of course I have. I hadn't. Made its rounds through my generation. You could chat with strangers and skip as you desire. When I first discovered it, I was oblivious to the matter of men wanking their weens.
Starting point is 01:27:46 A term I had not heard, but will remain with me for the rest of my life. As of 2022, I believe the app was shut down, but the idea yet lives on through another app called Monkey. Yeah, it's nice to know that through the ages and probably to come, everyone who uses these apps will be scarred by the image of a fat and hairy 75 year old man pressing his piece.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Stay sane. All right, Michael, you are an awesome human being. Awesome human being. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage saying the morning to you, the man who put the C in the TDS Classic. Stay a little my friend on the other end. The one and only Mr. John.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Where are we? Where are we doing? Here we are. John C. Dvorak. I'm out of control. I'm out of control. Ah, there we go. You're done?
Starting point is 01:28:40 I'm done. Well, I'm. Well, in the morning to you, Mr. M. Curry in the morning, sea boosting, rap eating, air subs in the water, Damage of the Night's out there. I'm trying to get my. There we go. Well, I'm After all that very disappointing 2177 on the trollage I even I know that's down Yes down 300. Yeah. Well, this is- Well, you know, people- Christmas week. Christmas week.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Christmas week. It's not Christmas week. Thanksgiving week. This year, it turns out that people have all bailed out. They started going on their Thanksgiving drive, cost the gases down by about a dollar here. Oh. So, it's only $9 a gallon now? No, it's down to 460.
Starting point is 01:29:28 That's pretty low for California. That's not bad. And so they're all driving off to some place or other and they've all left already and they're going for longer than normal vacations as Thanksgiving holiday. Because the economy is doing great. I think that's accounting for our audience shrinkage and donation shrinkage. Well, they can still listen. It's the internet.
Starting point is 01:29:49 You can listen wherever you are. For some reason, people just disconnect. Well, when we do these shows, we work on Thanksgiving and we, you know. Tina's like, why don't you guys just take Thanksgiving off? Why don't you just take Christmas off? Why? Well, she was, she was stating it but she said, well, because our life is dictated by this show. I don't think I've had an actual vacation where I unplugged and didn't work, didn't schlep my rig
Starting point is 01:30:17 along in 17 years. Yeah. I'm just saying. You're doing God's work. Yeah? I'm just saying. You're doing God's work. Oh, okay. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Message received. I will, yes, you are right. You're right. So when I say, beware of the ways of the world is polluting your soul. I am doing God's work. You're correct. A buddy of mine gave me that mark. So the trolls are in the troll room, trollroom.io, and we have a stream. Yay.
Starting point is 01:30:51 We love Void Zero. You know, it could be the Void Zero upgrade that's going to counter for the low number. Oh, a lot of people got kicked off in the beginning. My theory could be completely wrong. It's got nothing to do with the Thanksgiving at all. It could just be that the stream was rocky in the beginning. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, people bail out.
Starting point is 01:31:09 A lot of people are just finicky. Oh, it doesn't work. I'm going to go do something else. It's OK because you can listen. It's a podcast. You can listen whenever you want to. But we like doing it live, which is, we don't just say, oh, I got Thanksgiving dinner.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Let's do it really early in the morning or let's do it later. Oh yeah, we, that's, this is true. We do not fluctuate. We make it like it was a, yeah, we're routinize it. You want to do that because for podcasters out there, you should know that you want to have things in the same over and over. It's like a newspaper. They have a formula for the front page and people expect
Starting point is 01:31:46 something to be at a spot on the page and they look to it. The Wall Street Journal was notorious for having a fabulous front page formula where you'd always go to the one column noting that you're going to read something about something that's exactly the same day after day. This is also one of Adam's golden podcasting rules. It pertains to live show as well. And people who asked me for my hyper local giblet about podcasting, which is hyperlocal.noagendannotes.com. The golden rule, always, always, whether you do it once a week, once a month, whatever, twice a week, always release on the same day
Starting point is 01:32:25 at approximately the same time. And this is why we don't take vacations. If we skip a show or if the show comes out much later, people, their lives are disrupted, they're waiting for it. My goodness. When we change from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m., people were hyperventilating. It took about three months. It took quite a while. You've ruined my life. My life is scheduled around this.
Starting point is 01:32:55 A lot of artists are complaining, so I can't do the art anymore. Yeah, yeah. And then they're very susceptible. It's like, Oh, I'll find something else. And before, you know what, they're listening to Megyn Kelly. So this is why you need to be very consistent at your release schedule. And that's why we are very consistent with our live schedules. Well, people are scheduling their lives around it. And yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Will they expect, I don't think, I disagree with that assumption. I don't think they're scared. Who is the pod father? I think they expect something at the same time and it's a routine. It's not that they're taking their whole lives and scheduling it around. That's why they have to be reminded there's even a show. Yes. Rule number two, have a newsletter to remind people that there's a show. It's very
Starting point is 01:33:46 critical. Critical, critical, critical, critical. So you can go to trollroom.io and there's no agenda stream is great. VoidZero has graciously kept his chats, his IRC chat server open for all of these years for everybody to enjoy. And of course, we run the No Agenda Stream. So lots of live shows there. Talk about a great community. It is No Agenda Nation. It is the No Agenda Stream. You can also use a modern podcast app. Highly recommended because there's no deplatforming. If there's a podcast you like, it's not just going to disappear one day because Silicon Valley companies didn't like it mainly Spotify But Apple deep platforms as well sometimes just singular episodes
Starting point is 01:34:34 It's very very annoying and the bonus you can listen to the live stream in these modern podcast apps And you'll also get a notification when we send out the batch signal and 90 seconds after releasing it, these modern podcast apps know about it. All these big companies could do it, but they don't because they don't care about you. They don't care. They just want you to use an iPhone. That's all they care about. So I'm kind of signaling. Well, that's what you, yeah. If you're selling iPhones, that's what you want. That's what you do. Value for value is how we've been running it. We do this as a service. You'll never see us with a plus bundle or a Patreon or any nonsense like that. We love doing this as a service to humanity.
Starting point is 01:35:16 As John just said, we're doing God's work. I am. I don't know who John's working for. I'm doing God's work. CIA. Yeah, there you go. Where's our money? And we just want you to'm doing God's work. Yeah, there you go. Where's our money? And We just want you to receive something that's valuable and if you feel it was valuable return the favor to us to keep us going we need time talent and definitely need treasure to pay the bills and
Starting point is 01:35:37 We appreciate the time and talent that our artists put into Regardless of how they do it when you're thinking about it, you're trying to do something, it's appreciated. And we always choose one piece of art that we think is attention-getting, it can be funny, it can be, you know, we have no set... Do we have any set reasoning for why we choose the art? I mean, it's not about slickness, it's not about... It's the concept, I guess. Well, there's two guys that decide. That's you and me. And it's based on... We each have our taste and it's based on 100% consensus. Yes. We have veto power over everything. Both of us. And so it has to be agreed upon, although some deals are made in the back room
Starting point is 01:36:26 every once in a while. Yeah, there's, well, I'll give you this one if you give me the next one. Now that has happened on an occasion, but it usually goes like this. I don't like it, but okay, you can have it. That's what you will say. You can have this. Go ahead. Go with that one. But I'm marking it down. I get the next one. And then I always fight you on the next one. I'm kind of an Indian giver. Yeah, you are, as a matter of fact.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Which is racist by itself. Well, it looks like a Cherokee. So you can upload to noagendaartgenerator.com. This is where you can make an account. This has been around for a long time. We have leaderboards, all kinds of fun stuff. It's very gamified. And from time to time,
Starting point is 01:37:12 we'll see an actual Dutch master pop in. They are going through transition themselves. The disappointment is great when someone pops in as a prompt jockey and wins the art. But again, it's the concept. It's the art. But again, it's the concept. It's not how you make it. It's the concept. And when we looked at this piece from Nico Seim, I don't even know if this was AI. It's very cartoonish. It's like an explosion. And this podcast includes the sound of no agenda. If anything, the lettering Dvorak and Curry reminded me of Dr. Seuss,
Starting point is 01:37:49 of the type, the font used for Dr. Seuss books. And it was, I don't know, it was like, yeah, we'll use this one. I don't think there was anything high concept that really struck us. Well, no, you did like one piece, which was the clip, the cord piece, which I really liked. Yeah. Mountain Jay. I liked the clipping, the MSN cord. And you said it's the wrong cables. No, it's not. It's literally the cable. Yeah. It's a coaxial cable. It was the right cable. Well, I thought the piece was a little simplistic looking. The cable's not hooked to anything.
Starting point is 01:38:26 So what's it cutting off? Yeah, I guess. Now the other one I liked, because I thought we both thought spin coat was cute, but that was Tontanil. I don't know. It didn't have. It was getting there. I kind of like the language popo by Nestworks. I don't know why it was like kind of cheese cakey. You didn't like it.
Starting point is 01:38:50 No, you brought that up. Which one was that? I don't even see it. It's the drawn police officer, police woman, and she's a- Oh, the police woman, yeah. Language police. And why didn't I like that?
Starting point is 01:39:00 I don't know. It just, I don't know. I think it was the composition for something about the composition I didn't care for. We both thought Becky was cute. Yeah, Becky. Becky is-
Starting point is 01:39:11 Yeah, we did both think Becky was cute. Your alter ego. By the way, Dame Jen Ping, she says, thank you for defending me to use a real voice on John's AI pimping mission, which I guess you haven't started yet with the scare. Manga is already sending out his resume. Didn't you see that? No, I did not see. Oh, he posts, he tagged you on X with some animated GIF of some of a Becky, believe me,
Starting point is 01:39:39 scare manga. Oh, yeah. Probably stacked as we used to say in the old days. Correct. The Octocopter, oh, we talked about Atacams, which is Matt Boivere. We liked it, but it was too small. Yeah, you couldn't read anything. But it was very funny because Atacams is a medication box, like for actually suppositories.
Starting point is 01:40:05 It says, Atacom's multi-symptom for use deep inside Russia. Relief from the discomfort of hegemony helps reduce population. He had all the right things going for him. Excellent, excellent copy. Yes. Had a lot going for it, but... But it was like you can't even read it. You had to blow it up.
Starting point is 01:40:23 You can't read it. You have to remember that the small square you see is the biggest you're ever gonna see it anywhere yeah sometimes it's smaller yeah yeah I think that was it was anything else no I think that was it see we did have one person complain that we'd talk about the art too much. That's not what the email said. The art segments gotta go. That's what it was.
Starting point is 01:40:52 It was a little different. The art segments gotta go. No. I mean, what value is it if we don't critique the art, the artists will never do anything anymore. They want to get a recognition. This is a way of encouraging production. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:10 This is like the, you know, that you do this in a communist country. You get in front and make everyone sit in a meeting and then you tell them off and tell them to get back to work and do more. Do more work! Yes. Yeah, that's what you do. You want the bonus clip before we go to the... Yes, I would love the bonus clip.
Starting point is 01:41:28 What is it? This is a bonus clip that shows you what we do is takes talent. I've always appreciated that. We do cold reads because of the nature of the spreadsheet and how it comes in. We don't have time to review all the text. We don't have time to rehearse. And we No, we don't have time to rehearse. And we don't want to. No, no. And so I think we do pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty good.
Starting point is 01:41:51 It's passable. So this is the Cuomo kid over there on the News Nation, Chris Cuomo, and he has a prompter fail. Oh. And this is probably, it was probably the most hilarious prompter fail I've ever heard. And he excoriates the prompter operator, which is the dumbest thing you can do. Never do that. That is dumb.
Starting point is 01:42:18 Prompter people. That's a crappy job. It's a thankless job. Prompter people talk to each other. It's not a crappy job. It's a thankless job. Promptor people talk to each other. It's not a big group and they'll be like, yeah, that guy is a dick. And then they will purposely, purposely screw. If you are tied to the teleprompter, which Chris Cuomo is, they will mess you up. So this person will always have it in for Chris Cuomo.
Starting point is 01:42:45 I have to stop for a second. My prompter operator is racing through this like they don't want to hear anything that I'm saying right now. Do me a favor. Move the prompter back up. Pretend you're paying attention. Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep rolling up. No, no, the other way, the other way. Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. I know you just weren't paying attention, but just keep going, keep going. It's fine, it's fine. Okay, little bit more, little bit more,
Starting point is 01:43:20 little bit more, little bit more, little bit more. Yes, that's how far off you were. Never mind that. Stop. What a douchebag. Wow, that was a good one. That guy is an absolute douche. I can't believe he did that. Yeah, humiliating the...
Starting point is 01:43:41 And by the way, that's one of the lowest paid jobs in the studio. On the set, on the set. It's a low paid job because you're lucky to have anyone that could even do it at all and that they will do it. And then to excoriate them and humiliate them at that salary, he owes that guy like his daily salary, what Cuomo makes a day, should give it to the prompter guy and say, I'm sorry. Cuomo should be happy because most local news do their own prompter. You see the controller in their left hand? And they got to do their own prompter. Have you ever seen that?
Starting point is 01:44:16 No, I don't. I've never noticed it. Oh, it happens a lot. Yeah. I think he was just parroting his wife from last night. Keep going, keep going, a little bit more, no other direction. All right, let's thank the treasure portion of Value for Value that we received back. We'd like to thank everybody who comes in over $50 or more, not below 50 for reasons of anonymity so people can be assured we'll never mess it up. And we always love the sustaining donations, which is any amount any frequency you
Starting point is 01:44:47 set it up set it and forget it is what we hope for. A lot of people say we always get nice notes hey I got it's like five bucks a month what I got to stop for a while and we're like no problem they're always really sorry it's okay it's okay value for value if you don't have any value then it's okay for now. Now when it comes to executive associate executive producers, just like Hollywood, we like to reward people who come in with higher amounts with a title, which is useless. Except, you know, you can use it for, you know, for credit, you know, credits, credits, you can walk around and say, I'm an executive producer. And you can put it on IMDB.com. It might impress somebody.
Starting point is 01:45:25 When you're not trying to get a date on a dating app, you can go to a bar and say, yeah, you know, I'm an executive producer. If only I could find an unknown, it would be perfect. And you can show them your credits on IMDB. It's just the thought. Yeah. You make a business card and put it on there. There you go.
Starting point is 01:45:42 So, $200 and above, you have an associate executive producer credit for your lifetime. It never goes away. $300 and above is executive producer. And in both cases, we read your note and we kick it off with anonymous who made sure to say, I want this to be anonymous comes in boom, right off the bat 1000 and says, first things first, a deducing and a jobs karma. Well, we'll deduce first. You've been deduced. And we will do the jobs karma in a moment. This donation is a year perhaps more overdue. I was originally after a PhD in media deconstruction, but at the time I was laid off and the job
Starting point is 01:46:19 market has been awful. Oh, it's from the UK. It took a while, but I found some work. We're happy. And the time has come to donate to the best podcast in the universe, become a knight and take this opportunity to claim a PhD in climate science studies. Hopefully this gets you in time for that. So it's actually better. It's a doctor of education. The majority of this donation amounts to the amount I've spent on Spotify over the years.
Starting point is 01:46:50 It was fairly close to the instant night level. Yeah. So I thought, what the hey? So they actually spent a little bit less. Well, you've been on Spotify for a long time. I'll be setting up a, so you gave your money to Taylor Swift. Let me just tell you what happened there. I will be setting up a sustaining slash regular donations to match my Spotify subscription soon.
Starting point is 01:47:09 Very good idea. I get much more value out of this show and would like it to continue for at least four more years. Please knight me as Sir Bumpsie of the Tickly Beard and we look forward to doing that. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yay! You got karma. So this guy's donation came in as a wire transfer to the bank. Hmm. Through a system I've never even heard of called WISE.
Starting point is 01:47:39 WISE? How do you spell it? W-I-S-E, yeah. WISE. W-I-S-E. WISE. W-I-S-E. WISE. Or WISE. WISE? How do you spell it? W-I-S-E, yeah. WISE. Oh, WISE. W-I-C-E. WISE. W-I-S-E. WISE. Or WISE. WISE. WISE. WISE. WISE.
Starting point is 01:47:50 But I would doubt if it's called that. Whatever it is. But it just shows up. Okay. And there's different kinds of systems out there that do wire transfers, but this one is new to me. And I find it kind of interesting. I didn't get charged a fee for incoming.
Starting point is 01:48:09 Nice. Well, he probably paid outgoing. He must've paid outgoing. Or I don't know. I mean, all I know is that normally when a wire transfer comes in, we have to pay 20 bucks for it. So it's always annoying when somebody sends us,
Starting point is 01:48:20 somebody recently sent us $37 in a wire transfer and it was like 20month fee to take it. It's like, don't send us $1 PayPal either. I mean, we basically wind up owing money to PayPal. It doesn't work. But yeah, for people who want to know, after a certain level of checks are received the maximum fee is 15 cents a check for whatever the check is written for so you know it's 15 cents avoid zero says well What if they send $19 yet? We basically lose a buck If they sent 19 bucks in a wire transfer, we would lose a dollar and we would actually the bank would charge the 20. Yeah
Starting point is 01:49:01 or we would lose a dollar. And we would actually, the bank would charge the 20. Yeah. So you would lose a dollar. So don't do that anybody out there. Wise, Wise. Wise. Now it costs $40 to send a wire. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:49:15 Wise.com, connect your money worldwide. We're looking at it now. Pay and get paid globally. Move money where it matters, from paying your mortgage and euros to sending rupees overseas. Fast, simple and secure. High speed, low fee transfers. I never heard of it.
Starting point is 01:49:35 No. It did come through. So I guess they were hooked into it. Now I don't want to belabor this, but people do need to know some things like the 15 cent charge for a check, as opposed to 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, sometimes more for PayPal or Stripe. And then there's other of these free systems that go through, Zelle being one of them that our bank doesn't like. And I can't accept a Zelle, but some people have set it up on their end to get a Zelle to go through.
Starting point is 01:50:07 I don't know how they do it and they won't explain it. But this Weiss looks like something to look into. If you send Weiss $332.69, the charge is $96.96 fee. That's a good deal. That's a very good deal, if it is. Okay, cool. But again, let's see what... I was shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
Starting point is 01:50:34 Gambling. Another anonymous from Omaha, Nebraska is Nixon. He comes in with 333.69. And he says for John C. Which is misspelledpelled by the way. It's J-O-N, no, J-O-H-N-S-I-E. I think it's S-I-E. S-I-E.
Starting point is 01:50:56 It's J-A-H-N-S-I-E. Oh, okay. That's, that's Hudson. Yes. If you're fishing and the bait ain't working, switch it up. The sad puppy is 87 years old and dog years. Time for a refresh. I didn't put a sad puppy on the newsletter.
Starting point is 01:51:12 No. Well, he did attach some alternatives. I've used alternatives and none of them work as good as the sad puppy. There's one sad puppy and we're sticking with him. I'm in the railroad industry. Where are the tracks you see? I'd love to look it up in our internet map and see what's moving out there. Internal map.
Starting point is 01:51:32 Internal map. It's internal map. Oh, internal map. They've got a map, yes. I'd like to look at it. Okay. Lastly, I don't know what that, I don't get it. You must know what rail tracks run in front of your house.
Starting point is 01:51:45 Oh, these are the old, I believe these are the old Southern Pacific tracks that have now owned by Burlington Northern and they're the ones that run parallel to Highway 80 from about Richmond to Emeryville. Lastly, Spendrift Sparkling Water is the best. Lime and lemon are top tier. I'd ship you some, but I am too lazy. Thanks. Thanks. Thank you. And then he has a second part of his note for Adam.
Starting point is 01:52:24 As a professional producer, you're great at cleaning up John C's Nat Pops, doorbells, and other sounds. Here is an opinion I bet you disagree with, but I want to share it. I think those imperfections make the show feel authentic like listeners are part of it not consuming pure polished corporate crap or content. John's chair squeaks or dropping of a pop can or opening of a pop can is what it really is, or obnoxious borderline profane slurping at his sparkling water, briefly pulls the veil back and lets the audience inside or sucking on a lozenge. I need to say something this about that.
Starting point is 01:53:07 I never clean anything up. We have a noise gate, which is mainly because of the amount of compression we use that, and you don't use headphones. So my voice will flow back from your speakers into your mic. Very annoying, but I don't try. I do not clean up. In fact, something's been bumping for the last two and a half, three weeks and I haven't even said anything about it.
Starting point is 01:53:27 I'm like, it's so wonderfully natural. Exactly. Case in point, I don't clean anything up, especially not what just came out of your nose. Well, if something bumps, let me know, because I'd like to know what it is, because I haven't been doing much. Okay.
Starting point is 01:53:42 It could be the table. No, no, I'll let you know when it Okay. It could be the table. No, no. I'll let you know when it happens. Yeah. Just one time. I'll tell you one time will be enough. Just say it bumped. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:53:52 John C and Adam are taking their time to record yet another holiday show. That's right. We're working on Thursday. Pay your respects while you can. Per my earlier comment, John C lives near the tracks. He takes one bad step at the wrong time and splat to show is over. The average Turkey weighs 15 pounds. If you're a douche bag or even if you're not,
Starting point is 01:54:15 why not break the ice with a 1515 donation to break the ice? Karma, no requests. Jingles WTC seven won't go away all right you've got karma long note thank you yeah what's a little long do song Maletic in Bartlett's Texas 333 33 yeah, this is also not a shorty. This came in as a typewritten note, which is interesting. Yeah, it looks like it was actually literally typewritten. Yes. In the morning, please find a 33333 donation check with a dollar sign after the 33333, which is new. sign after the 333.33, which is a, this new, uh, and I find it disturbing.
Starting point is 01:55:10 The dollar sign belongs in front of the number. Do you, I do. Well, he's from Serbia, so it must have something to do with. All right. No. Okay. Then I, the jury will disregard that remark. Uh, from Serbia, from Serbia. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:55:25 He's from, uh From Serbia? Wait a minute. He's from Bartlett text? Oh, he's a studentica of Serbia. He's studying Serbia. Anyway, the donation check is enough to take me to the coveted no agenda Sir status, though that word means cheese in my native language. Sir means cheese in my native language. Sir means cheese? May I be granted the title of Sir Dusan the autocrat of Bartlett and Studentica living at two places at once? More about me in the bio at maletic.org with a C. As you can see there, I even have the coat of arms
Starting point is 01:55:59 for the title that happens when you can trace your direct ancestors to the early 14th century. Two brothers who built Serbian monastery of Visoki, Dekani for the king. Hey, can you make us royalty? Can you give us like a duke ship or something? Oh, there you go. Now you're talking. I followed Noah Jenison since day one though, sporadically up to the COVID era. COVID and related moved to Texas at the time with gracious encouragement by the pod father who answered my email about moving to the Austin area, resulted in more engagement and donations, culminating now
Starting point is 01:56:29 with the title." That email paid off. It did. I email almost everybody back. Your sanity and humor were invaluable during those times and are always mental health preservers. Why now? Well, I am timing it for my birthday, which falls on Thanksgiving during every year when Friday the 13th falls in October. You can leave calculation to the troll room. Amount is self-explanatory as for the Nightingale
Starting point is 01:56:54 Roundtable, I request sarma as opposed to some karma on the side, which is similar to, but much better than Polish golumki, which is fermented cabbage leaves and layered with smoked pork and amphora aged Tom Janika Tom Tom Janika would be great to hear a little girl approval of it. Be seeing you do sound melodic in Bartlett, Texas, studentica, Serbia. So there's an actual place called studentica. That's interesting. Yes, little girl approval for you, sir. Thank you very much for your courage. We appreciate it. Interesting. Joss, Joss, Joss, John Whidden, W-H-I-D-D-O and in Kodiak, alas, Kodiak,
Starting point is 01:57:41 he's in Kodiak. 26322 is the first associate executive producer, has no note, nothing, so we're gonna double up Karma and he'll be good to go. You've got Karma. Eric Levenberg in Los Angeles, California 227. With this donation I'm now finally a knight of the round table. I would like to be known as Sir Discohead. Asking for jobs karma, health karma, and relationship karma. Thank you for being the best podcast in the universe. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Starting point is 01:58:14 Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. By the way, did you see, I mean, I don't know, it was kind of silly meeting with, I sent you a text message Saturday, did you receive my text message? What did it say about our three nights who were who are in the band mercy me? We're playing the big venue there in oakland. Yeah, I saw that Yeah, you didn't respond
Starting point is 01:58:38 I know I oh, yeah Because they they they were like please ask if john will come to the gig We'll let him park with the tour buses. We'll give him all access VIP. Then I didn't see it. I would have noticed that. Oh, man. You sure you sent it to the right phone number?
Starting point is 01:58:54 Yes. Yeah, the one that you always text me with. Anyway, they decided to go to Costco. They thought they would have better luck of finding you there than than you coming to the gig Well, that's too bad. No, where was the gig? What's the biggest venue in Oakland? Coliseum yeah, that's where they were playing. They're at the Coliseum. Yeah, they're huge Oh, I would have I would have gone if they sent me a note. I said I sent you an email about it a week ago Well, you know, what am I supposed to do? Okay, well, if they ever come through again...
Starting point is 01:59:26 I do the best I can. I get 500 emails a day, I lose a few. That's all right. Anyway, they were sad, but they understood. Well, next time they're around, I'll be glad to show up. I'll work the back room, I'll pull some cables for them. I'll be part of the roadie crew. No, you would be standing with the wives and girlfriends man. You get the side stage, you get to hang out. They take care of you.
Starting point is 01:59:52 As long as they have food. You get full catering with the band. Next time. Hey by the way, the Costco here finally got that French wine, Bordeaux Baudrouple Box, finally. Oh, it didn't have it? Oh man, we've already, I think we have our third crate by now. Eight bucks a bottle, it's unbelievable. What a tip.
Starting point is 02:00:13 What a tip of the day. Yeah, I was waiting and waiting because when I heard about it, I know they sell always good deals, but finally they showed up. I think, what is going on? What is this? Very disappointing. All right, onward. Yeah. Chet. He's in Sayre. Chet Perry is in Sayre, Pennsylvania. 22333.
Starting point is 02:00:37 And he says, thank you, John and Adam, for the amazing work you do. First, I'd like to give a shout out to Theodore and Farmer Todd as they are Kin and a Kin to Kin. I am a veteran small business owner specializing commercial auto glass in the southern tier of New York between Elmira, Binghamton, and Ithaca. Binghamton. Binghamton, yeah. Yeah, Binghamton. Anyone interested can contact me at truckglass at proton.me. I hit my brother in the mouth a while ago, but I have the feeling he listens on the sly. So, if we could call our, uh, with Eamon, Eamon out as a douchebag. If he's listening, it would be appreciated. No jingles, no karma, just love and light.
Starting point is 02:01:29 You got love and light, brother. Anthony Zamorachi is in Albuquerque, New Mexico, RoaDucks, 222.22. John, the memes are glorious. You guys kept me sane through COVID. No Agenda and 4chan are my dual sources of information. I think I'm good. Thanks for the awesome tips.
Starting point is 02:01:48 ITM, Wango Tango, 1111. No nothing. I will deduce myself. Okay. No nothing. Deduce yourself. It's illegal in most states. Brian Winning in St.
Starting point is 02:01:59 Louis, Missouri, 222.22. Small row of ducks. I was hitting the mouth many years ago by the boys from Canary Cry. Yep. Canary Cry talk radio. Yep. They're big value for value guys. Earlier this evening while listening to the show with my 11-year-old daughter, she asked
Starting point is 02:02:19 me during the donation segment if I had ever produced a show. Aye, what a good kid. I told her no and she asked if I did not get any ever produced a show. What a good kid. I told her no and she asked if I did not get any value from the show. Did you not get any value from the show? The shame of Douche Baggery overwhelmed me and I had to donate knowing the overwhelming amount of value the show has provided me through the years. Good for her. Please play their, their starving in the shadows. They're eating the dogs due to climate change. And that's true too. Also, please add me to
Starting point is 02:02:53 the birthday list as I complete my 42nd trip around the sun on the 25th. Thank you for your courage, Brian Winning. Yeah, 41st trip, not 42nd. And the Starving in the Shadows is not actually an ISO. I mean, it was one of John's clips. I could not find it quick enough because I always scan to see what jingles people need. But we do have the rest. They're eating the dogs. Due to climate change.
Starting point is 02:03:17 There you go. It's good. Eli the Coffee Guy, Bensonville, Illinois, always keeping us caffeinated to 11.24. The next show will be on Thanksgiving. I just want to wish all the No Agenda family a happy Turkey Day and say we are thankful for you two giving us a show this Thursday. It is that type of dedication and consistency that makes this show the best podcast in the universe.
Starting point is 02:03:44 I won't be listening live as I'll be busy whipping up a turducken, but I will enjoy the show. Turducken, sorry. Yes. The turkey duck and chicken all crammed into each other. But I will enjoy the show Friday morning while I'm roasting coffee for our black Friday sale. But producers can visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM 20 for 20% off your first order. Anytime. Stay caffeinated. Eli the coffee guy. PS. Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
Starting point is 02:04:16 Alright. Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood Colorado $200. She wants jobs, Carmen. Wants to say for a winning a resume and faster job search, go to imagemakersinc.com. That's imagemakersinc.com with a K. And work with Linda Lu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. Jobs. Your go-to for all your executive resume and job search needs. Sorry. Sorry about that. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You got it. Come on. Matthew Martel from Brumall, Pennsylvania, 21060.
Starting point is 02:04:54 Hey John and Adam, I'm a Knight now. Could we schedule a time for an ad read review, please? We can do it via Zoom if needed. Linda Luz is sounding a little off. JCD constantly gets tripped up on mine, but somehow gigawatt coffee roasters read smooth as silk. I was punched in the mouth during the late stages of the flu pandemic by a good friend who needs to stop buying Dogecoin and donate the cash to you instead. Get with the program Mr. Myers. I would like to be dubbed Sir Martel,
Starting point is 02:05:22 peddler of hardware from here on forward. Please have an mRNA vaccine and free tomahawk steak and a Rodenbach Grand Cru at the round table. I am not familiar with the Rodenbach Grand Cru. This is a champagne, I presume? I don't know. What do you mean you don't know? I don't know. I'm not familiar with it either. I don't know everything. Well, you're the go-to guy on these things. Yeah, I could have looked it up. I should have looked it up. I didn't look it up.
Starting point is 02:05:53 He also says, hold the veggies. Two jingles, please. JCD pop tarts. And I think you need hot, mean hot pockets. And due to climate change and sales karma for the self-employed. And as always, visit MartellHardware.com. That's Martell with double L, Hardware.com. Use coupon blame the newsletter for an additional 10% off your order. Thanks and talk soon, says Matt. Hot pockets. You've got karma.
Starting point is 02:06:23 George James in Newark, New Jersey, $200. I've been listening for two years now, so I'm overdue with my donation. Keep up the good work. Well, that was easy. Yeah, I like it. Eric from The Chase, Wentzville, Missouri, $200. We're nearing the end here of our associate executive producers. In the morning, please deduce me. You've been deduced. Thank you for all the media deconstruction that you do and for keeping my amygdala in check over the years.
Starting point is 02:06:58 Karma for all. Cheers from Eric from the chase. You've got karma. And our last donor, which is a super long note, but it's just enough to get, I can get it done, which is the Reiki Princess. Ah, the Reiki Princess, yes. Reiki, Reiki, Reiki Princess and Palm Beach, which reminds me, today's the last day of the sumo match. Palm Beach, Florida, and I'll be watching it at 3.30 west coast time. $200 comes in from Palm Beach. Palm Beach. Yeah, this is...
Starting point is 02:07:31 They had the big glass bottom boat meetup. Ah, oh. ITM John and Adam, we're proud to present this donation to you both as a token of our gratitude from Ocala, Florida. Remember, our November to Remember Meetup should be credited as a switcheroo to the future Sir Grumpy Green Guy on behalf of the Florida No Agenda producers. So that's this donation will be Grumpy Green Guy. Yep. Sir Grumpy is ironically not grumpy at all. It's like me. He's an amazing husband and father and we love having him at the meetups. We also like to wish him an early happy birthday for December 14th.
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Starting point is 02:10:00 I would like to play a series... Actually, I have two series of clips of being misled by the media. Oh no, say it ain't so. Yeah. Okay. Let's start with this one. This is from Katie Tur reports. Katie Tur reports. Oh, Katie Tur.
Starting point is 02:10:21 She's on MSNBC. I feel bad for Katie Tur. Her dad became a woman. She's had a rough childhood, Katie Tur. You know, maybe if she put a little effort into her job, that would help. Yeah. I want to play these two clips.
Starting point is 02:10:38 This is, she's just discussing, you know, she's a Trump hater. And she's got these people on, she always has a bunch of and, and she's got these people on. She always has a bunch of panelists. And so you got to play this Katie Tur on electoral win. But I want to go to Cornell on this because part of the part of why Donald Trump and his allies say that they're entitled to picks like this is that he's got a mandate. I mean, I had Byron Donalds on just the other day saying Donald Trump can have whomever he wants because the voters gave him that power.
Starting point is 02:11:08 And then he told me that it was the biggest electoral win since Ronald Reagan. Does he, does he have that mandate? Was it the biggest electoral win since Ronald Reagan? Okay. What does it take to look it up? I guess they don't have any more producers over at MSNBC. They're starting the firing early It takes two seconds to look at it Was it the biggest electoral win and what we're talking about here electoral votes or the electoral college? Yes. There was it. Yes
Starting point is 02:11:38 It's the biggest sense Ronald Reagan. I'll give you some examples here And this is according to archives gov because the number seems to change here and there, but it's still pretty much this. Trump got 312 to Harris's 226. That's the most since Reagan. All right. In between, we had Biden, who won the last time, with 306 to 232. So Trump beat that.
Starting point is 02:12:03 with 306 to 232. So Trump beat that. And then before that, it was Trump had 304 to Clinton's 227. So this is the biggest since Reagan, which is way up there. It's I think it was 500 or something. And well, that was easy to look up. It was very easy to look up and it's all over the place. I'm sorry. It's all a wiki. Wiki page has all of it. Yes.
Starting point is 02:12:27 Katie Tur wants to know if you can produce for her. Yeah. So Katie Tur can't look it up or she can't have somebody look it up or she thinks it's some sort of a mystery. So she asked this Cornell guy who's the MSNBC political analyst. That's what he's a black guy with white hair. Oh, that's Cornell. Yeah. Isn't that Cornell West? No, no. Cornell West doesn't have white hair. This is the guy who hates everybody.
Starting point is 02:12:52 This is the guy who hates everybody and takes credit for Obama winning their presidency in 2008. All right. Groovy. Yes. So this guy's not, he's also dubbed as the MSNBC political analyst. That's the title he had. I'm going to write a column on this. This is so egregious. An oasis. So an oasis. And so she asks him because she can't look it up and she's not, I guess the producers can't tell her what the numbers are, but she's actually baffled. Now, I believe that she's insincere. I don't believe that she doesn't know this or she's so lazy she can't. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Oh, was it the biggest since Reagan?
Starting point is 02:13:37 So she throws it to this guy and here was what we get. Does he have that mandate? Was it the biggest electoral win since Ronald Reagan? Oh, well, I know we're in a reality where facts apparently don't matter, but no, it wasn't even close. In fact, if you look at the raw vote from 2020, he's still off of what Biden got by a long ways in 2020. What?
Starting point is 02:14:08 Did he even understand the... I don't think he understood the question. Electoral votes. Yeah, electoral vote. And the guy jumps right to a popular vote and says, no, and this is a warped reality, he says at the beginning of his little spiel. He says raw vote, and this is a warped reality, he says at the beginning of his little spiel. He says raw vote. This is nice.
Starting point is 02:14:26 He also says the raw vote, which I find entertaining. Yeah, the raw vote. So we have what I consider an egregious example of the disingenuous productions at MSNBC. And Katie Tur should be ashamed of herself. This is a disgusting display of stupidity or a disingenuous insincerity. One of the two. I'll take, uh, what were the options again? You're going to have to make me repeat it. Disgusting display of stupidity. I'll take that for 500.
Starting point is 02:15:02 Okay. So me. So now the other example of being misled, this is not done as as disingenuous. This is just like misleading. At least to me when I, but they did clear it up. So they have a big deal going on in England. They've gotten King Richard's voice down because they found a skeleton of King Richard the third. You know there's something going on. There's Netflix documentaries, there's this movie about the lady who tried to find... there's something... what is up with King Richard? Everything's about King Richard. Why is he so... he's trending. I have no idea. He is trending. He's trending. King Richard is trending. But let's play this route. This is King Richard and I wrote down shit report on NPR.
Starting point is 02:15:51 Yes, correct. The team in the UK says it's approximated King Richard III's voice with 90% accuracy. And here's Catherine Fink has more. It all started 12 years ago when Richard the Third's skeleton was found underneath a parking lot in England. Turns out a person's skeleton can tell us a lot about what they sounded like. We can predict the likely pitch range of a voice from a skeleton. Vocal coach Yvonne Morley Chisholm assembled a team of doctors, linguists, actors and forensic
Starting point is 02:16:23 psychologists to recreate Richard III's voice. It's a tall order for someone who's been dead for over five centuries, but they found clues everywhere. His upbringing, his spelling, even his scoliosis. And now a digital avatar is on display in England, where you can hear the king in his own words and his own voice or something close to it. How come some of your clips are off balance? I don't know. There was something amiss. So this is bull crap.
Starting point is 02:16:58 Well, here's what... So I listened to this, but I didn't listen carefully enough. The second two clips will explain it. But it sounds to me as the way they're presenting it, they dug up this guy's body who was buried under a parking lot for some unknown reason, King Richard III. And they took a look at his skeleton and look at his vocal cords and they could make, and I was under the impression that some AI came into play But I was under the impression that some AI came into play and it reproduces voice perfectly and now it's an exhibit at the museum and of course they don't give an example what they do later in the report, in the secondary report that came later. And so then I find out I've been completely misled. Here we go with part two. Eventually the science pointed to a specific region, Northern England.
Starting point is 02:17:45 They discovered Richard III likely had a medieval Yorkshire accent, a dialect that set him apart from the typical upper-class tones of his successors. The modern Yorkshire, the sun is shining. He would say, the sun is sheening. So what do you do when you have all of these clues about a dead king's voice and you want people to hear it? You put out a casting call. For 10 years, I was looking for a man with a face
Starting point is 02:18:11 with the right proportions to the reconstruction of King Richard's face. And it's amazing. We only found him this year. That actor studied up. He learned everything about Richard III's personality and life experiences and geared up for an unusual kind of performance. Because the audience would not see his face,
Starting point is 02:18:30 but Richard III's. The clarity and charity of the sun's light is so great that when it is poured on the other heavenly bodies, the sun sheens with no less light and splendor. That's a digital avatar of Richard III, reciting a real address from his reign as king. It's currently on display at York Theatre Royal in England, and the team behind it believes the voice is 90% accurate. They got Frank Caliendo to come and do an imitation of some guy's voice. I don't know, that guy could have been a stutterer for all we know.
Starting point is 02:19:04 This is bull crap. Yeah, I think you may be right. I think there may be just a final, a final, a final... A final clip, a final clip? Yeah, it's a short, I guess. Moralee Chisholm says the public response has been overwhelming. I was amazed when I walked into the lobby area. People were crying. They were weeping
Starting point is 02:19:26 and saying, this is so moving. She says it's also been an opportunity for the public and for herself to learn about the real Richard III rather than the one depicted in the Shakespearean play. Our vocal communication, we can tell a bunch of things about them. And I think it's been incredibly important to allow this to reconsider Richard's words in his pronunciation, driven by his personality, how he chose to communicate. As for what's next, Morley Chisholm and the rest of her team have gotten a lot of requests for more voices. People are keen for Robert the Bruce, they're keen for Mary Queen of Scots, for the poet Eats, Johann Sebastian Bach. For now, Richard III will live on in York, where you'll be able to hear him through his own words as best as we can recreate them today.
Starting point is 02:20:17 What a crock! NPR, man, what are they doing? I mean's if someone came to me with a podcast proposal, be like, no, no, we do actually, I did find, uh, we do actually have some audio, uh, of what they think King Richard sounded like. I happen to have that here. Okay. You've got to hear this one. Today's deep dive is dot unique. Sorry.
Starting point is 02:20:42 The guy should have started. What do you mean better? Uh, well, that was, started, it would have been better. Well that was a deep dive. That was a very enlightening. Thank you. The conclusion NPR is full of crap. Okay.
Starting point is 02:20:53 We need to just discuss briefly because there's some funny soundbites. This international criminal court warrant, which is out for both BB Netanyahu and for his war guy, his war minister. Yes, buddy. Can I ask you a question before we begin this? Because I don't have any clips on it, but I want to ask you a quick question. Mm-hmm. What's the difference between the ICC and the ICJ? The ICJ is not affiliated with the ICC. I believe the ICJ is connected to the Human Rights Organization Court something.
Starting point is 02:21:31 I don't think it's part of the ICC. I could be wrong. I don't think it is either, but there's two of them. There's the ICC and they're going out and arresting people. And there's the ICC, the International Court of Justice. I think it's also in the Hague, if I'm not mistaken. Yes, it is. They're both in the Hague, if I'm not mistaken. Yes, it is. They're both in The Hague, yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:46 They're both there right next to each other competing. What is the point of having these two organizations like that? You must know, you're from Holland. Yes, I do. It's a jobs program for judges. It's complete nonsense. The United States does not recognize it. And the reason why becomes very obvious in these clips from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
Starting point is 02:22:08 The Jewish state is under siege and we live in an upside down world. This is Lindsay Graham, Lindy Hop, Lady G. Where the Prime Minister of Israel and the Defense Minister of Israel are being prosecuted by court in Belgium. Oh, Lindsay. Oh, so close Lindsay. How can this guy who's out there, who by the way, will probably be subject to a warrant from the ICC himself for his work in Ukraine, eventually, how can he think that it's in Belgium? We just discussed it Lindsay. It's in The Hague, not in Belgium. Minister of Israel and the defense minister of Israel are being prosecuted by court in Belgium.
Starting point is 02:22:49 An all-out rejection from Republican Senator Lindsey Graham. He denounced the arrest warrant issued earlier this week for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his former defense minister. It also included a Hamas military leader. Graham doubled down on his defense by calling out Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for this comment made soon after the ICC's announcement. We stand up for international law and we will abide by all the regulations and rulings of
Starting point is 02:23:20 the international courts. President Joe Biden has called the warrant outrageous. Adding fuel to that, Graham fired off this warning for Canada. We should crush your economy because we're next. You're going to have to pick the rogue ICC versus America. The US is not a significant. Can you stop for just a second? Yes, yes I can.
Starting point is 02:23:42 I just, just as a point, ICC Belgium is the international chamber of commerce. He did a quick Wikipedia search like, oh, okay, it's in Belgium. What a tool. What a tool. Canada. We should crush your economy because we're next. You're going to have to pick the rogue ICC versus America. The U.S. is not a signatory of the ICC, but a spokesperson for the international body,
Starting point is 02:24:14 Fadi El-Abdallah, is calling on the 124 countries that are, which include Canada, to enforce the arrest warrant. Canada. The ICC alleges that Israel committed war crimes in Gaza by using starvation and systematic attacks on civilians as part of its war against Hamas. The next steps after an arrest warrant is issued is seeking the cooperation of the states. Now, didn't the ICC also put out a warrant for Bush and Cheney and others? No, I think they were talking about it, but they never they never put the hammer down on it
Starting point is 02:24:52 I think it was just disgust And I think Kissinger No, I guess they never I think it was just disgusted. They were threatening. They were shaking their fists, but they never had the guts to do it pussies Let me just see. Let me see. Chaney. No, I don't have anything. All right, here's a second clip. Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban is trying to get in the way of that by being the first country in the EU, all of whom are members of the court, to defy the ICC's orders. Orban is inviting Netanyahu to his country and vowing to protect him.
Starting point is 02:25:30 He will be held in contrast. He's a trap. Orban accused the ICC of interfering in an ongoing political conflict for political aims. This is wrong in itself, he said, adding that it completely discredits international law. Italy, Germany, France, and Ireland are among the European countries that have signaled it will abide by the order.
Starting point is 02:25:57 The EU's top diplomat, Joseph Borrell, said member nations don't have a choice. The members, the states who signed the Rome Convention are obliged to implement the decision of the court. It is not optional. The warrant puts the ICC in uncharted territory. It's the first time the court has called for the arrest of a sitting head of government.
Starting point is 02:26:21 That's a major Western ally. It is the first time. Hey, it's not an option, people. It is not an option. I want to do a little bit of COP29 as it winds up. I see you have three clips as well. So I will play two, you will play three, and I'll wrap it up. And we'll be done with it because we got to be done with it.
Starting point is 02:26:42 This is another group of people who are flipping out over Trump because they know he's going to withdraw again from the Paris Accord and pull the plug. As we all know, he is a staunch climate change denier. In Azerbaijan, a chaotic and confusing COP29 has come to a close. The UN climate summit went way into overtime and at one point appeared close to failure. At the heart of the dispute is money, specifically how much rich countries including ours... That's all the meaning was about. Oh, it's only about money, yes.
Starting point is 02:27:16 And by the way, if they say development bank, that means IMF World Bank, which is our money. To developing countries to help them adapt to climate change. Susan, it was a real heated day of negotiations, but a final deal has finally been reached. Can you tell us how it all went down? Indeed, it was an undeniable chaotic and confusing day. It's now early hours of the morning, Baku time. Baku? Yes, the last draft was adopted by thousands of delegates near Comitos, I
Starting point is 02:27:45 might say, in a huge meeting room. That doesn't mean they're happy. This was a compromise pushed through rather than let these talks end in failure. It does up the amount that developed countries must direct to developing countries suffering the worst effects of climate change. It's now at least $300 billion by 2035, but it is far less than many of the developing countries advocated for. What were some of the biggest sticking points with that deal?
Starting point is 02:28:15 Money. Well, the amount, as I've mentioned, what kind of funding, grants or loans, public or private, there will be disappointment the money is not more publicly funded. Also, who pays in? Rich developed countries are obligated, but many argued China and other big emitting countries should also, but in the UN framework, for example, China is a developing country and
Starting point is 02:28:36 its contributions will remain voluntary. So, I don't have to participate now and I love what you're not going to, you're going to what? You're not going to give it to're gonna what you're not gonna give it to us You're gonna only lend it to us. Yeah, that's what we do with you and already Susan We are seeing some countries and like Cuba and India speaking out against this final deal How far is this from what they were asking Cuba? Well, they wanted much more money over a shorter period of time, but I'm telling you, you can really hear the resentment and opposition on the floor of the plenary as it's called.
Starting point is 02:29:11 You can hear the resentment from podcasters, lady. Nigeria called it an insult. India called it a mirage and said they do not accept this accord. The spirit of these talks, I might add, is damaged as well. The presidency, many talks, I might add, is damaged as well. The presidency, many say, pushed through this proposal too late, too little, just to close the climate conference with something even though it's seen as flawed. And Canada also said on the plenary floor that it's extremely disappointed in the accord overall and wanted some stronger text. The Secretary General of the United Nations
Starting point is 02:29:46 put out a statement today saying the commitment must become cash and ensure that this money does get quickly to the developing countries. In a paper bag. You know, just hours ago, it did seem like this conference would fall apart, but there is an agreement. It will and can be built on.
Starting point is 02:30:05 Although I think COP29, many would agree, hosted by Azerbaijan, has been a difficult, fractious set of climate talks. And this may threaten the solidarity of the whole UN process, how this transpired here, and perhaps we'll see widen a gap between rich and poor countries. So Trump doesn't even have to do anything. It's going to fall apart by itself. And I mean, because you have, I mean, I had more clips,
Starting point is 02:30:32 but you have three, so I want to have you play those. I have a lot of the delegates from all these countries going, this is not fair. They made us sit here for hours. We're tired. We're wiped out. Poor babies. They ground these people. They're in Baku.
Starting point is 02:30:48 Babies had to sit down and listen to a bunch of speakers. The Baku is like Casablanca, man. It's beautiful. It's an oil heaven. It's hookers and blow everywhere. That's why they were strung out. All right. Your clips, if you think they're still useful. Yeah, I think they're okay. This is basically the same thing when this is done from this NPR,
Starting point is 02:31:12 COP29 BS. The world has reached a new agreement on how to help pay for the impacts of climate change. Annual negotiations just wrapped up in Azerbaijan and they went well into overtime with some countries walking out in protest. Joining me now with more on what they decided is Lauren Summer from NPR's climate desk. Hey there. Hi Scott. So two weeks of negotiations. What have been the big sticking point? So this summit has been all about the money. The debate has been over the dollar amount that richer countries will send to developing countries that have contributed the least to climate change. God bless President Trump, man.
Starting point is 02:31:47 Stop these people from stealing from us for nonsense. They're not going to do anything for climate change. It's all going to these delegates. No, this is a money laundering racket. Yes. And that's where things like reducing their carbon emissions, renewable energy projects. Money laundering racket. This is the same.
Starting point is 02:32:03 Hold on. $300 billion, you put it in the system, who knows where it goes. You can't do money laundering. Research, research. It's going to research. A lot of it to research. It just goes into a bunch of people's pockets. It doesn't accomplish anything.
Starting point is 02:32:15 And this $300 billion, billion dollars, the entire net worth of Elon Musk, goes into the pockets of a bunch of criminals. Yes. That's the way I see bunch of criminals. Yes, yes. Least to climate change and that's where things like reducing their carbon emissions through renewable energy projects or preparing for the impacts of climate related disasters like more intense storms. This is known as climate finance and developing countries are pushing for a lot more than richer countries. We need to push for some more podcast finance. That's what I'm for. This climate finance is not doing it for me. And by the way, lady at NPR, more podcast finance. That's what I'm for. This climate finance is not doing it for
Starting point is 02:32:45 me. And by the way, lady at NPR, it's finance. And developing countries are pushing for a lot more than richer countries were willing to deliver. What was the main argument they were making as they tried to get that point home? Yeah. So lower-income countries are seeing some of the worst impacts from climate change, you know, flooding and hurricanes and droughts that are getting worse. They've done little to cause that because their carbon emissions are low. It's really the wealthier countries that are responsible for most of the emissions. So developing countries say they're owed for all those damages. Here's how Sierra Leone's climate minister, Jiwo
Starting point is 02:33:18 Abdullah described it at the talks. These numbers are not just abstract. They affect our people on a daily basis. Okay. Yeah, they, they're, they're affecting everybody. Oh my God, what are we going to do? These, these small countries are, which are run by tyrants, usually, are just trying to get some free money for their pockets. This is, this is so obvious to me. Initially, it was to drive the new economy and people were there
Starting point is 02:33:50 to get some dough for windmills and solar farms and all that stuff. And they've even given up. I saw the butt. Research and development is still the top. More studies to prove this thing. and they've even given up. I saw the butt, it's research and development is still the top. More studies to prove this thing. Yeah. Clip two.
Starting point is 02:34:11 The floods, the droughts affect the lives of our people. Due to climate change. The floods, the droughts affect the lives of our people. Our people are paying for this climate crisis already with their lives and their livelihoods. Abdelai was actually one of the ministers who walked out on negotiations for a bit today, along with other African countries and small island states, because it was over the dollar amount the richer countries were offering.
Starting point is 02:34:37 Okay. So what was the final agreement that was just agreed to? Yeah. So the agreement is for developed countries like the US and the European Union to hit $300 billion per year in climate finance by 2035. And then there's a larger goal to ramp that up to $1.3 trillion per year. The US wanted to see countries like China be official contributors to that as well, but China wanted to keep its contributions voluntary. And that 300 billion is lower than many developing countries wanted to see. Okay, but you're talking about the US there and that's of course the Biden administration.
Starting point is 02:35:12 President-elect Trump takes office in January. So given that, what are the chances the US follows through on that pledge for climate funding? Yeah, it's a really big question. It's unclear because if you remember, when Trump was president, he pulled the US out of the major climate agreement. That's the Paris Agreement. He has not wanted the US to be part of this in the past. This year, the Biden administration says it's supplied $11 billion. But you know, even if Trump undoes the US commitment, some funding could continue, like from the World Bank, which the US contributes to.
Starting point is 02:35:44 The US election happened right before these talks began. I'm curious, how much did that cast a shadow over negotiations, especially given that the world is already behind on climate change? Yeah, I think there's no doubt it had a major impact. You know, at the talks, the Biden administration was trying to make clear about the shift to renewable energy in the US is already underway and it's going to keep going. You know, the current devour consulting group needs to help these people, particularly NPR or someone needs to do something. They need a new angle. You know, just this, oh, extreme weather events. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. And it's just, oh, another
Starting point is 02:36:22 flood. They've overdone it. They've overshot the mark. They need something else to get people motivated to spend this money. I just don't understand why they... I mean, they're just verbal diarrhea, the same thing over and over again, ad nauseum. What's making it worse is these lesser developed countries, third world, are demanding free money. Yeah, those- And they're doing it in a very obnoxious way.
Starting point is 02:36:53 Well, it's because there was a lot of promises. You see, everyone got promised like, Hey man, let me build my mansion over here, you know, to escape and we'll take care. We'll, we'll make you whole at COP29. Don't worry. I can just see it. I can just see it. You're right.
Starting point is 02:37:11 This is so corrupt. Who's paying for these cops? This is no small conference. No, it costs money to overhead the conference itself. It's got to be millions. Millions. Yeah, millions. Bl to overhead the conference itself. It's got to be millions millions. Yeah millions. Yeah. All right last clip. Thank Here's what us climate envoy John Podesta said to other countries Here's your money laundering guy. This is not the end of our fight for a cleaner safer planet
Starting point is 02:37:38 Facts are still facts Science is still science. The fight is bigger than one election one political cycle in one country. The US has been cutting its carbon emissions in part because of the Biden administration's flagship climate law. That's the Inflation Reduction Act. And you know, there are parts that are popular, right? Consumer tax credits for electric cars and heat pumps. Many of the clean energy manufacturing projects, you know, big, big plants have gone into Republican districts.
Starting point is 02:38:09 So there is a chance that some of these policies will survive the new administration. But you know, the big question is still to come, right? Countries need to cut their emissions. We're behind on doing that, right? The earth is going to warm up more than the goal for the Paris Agreement. All countries are supposed to announce new pledges to cut their emissions by February, and that's to keep the planet from that even worse impact level of climate change. The Biden administration says it still plans to release its new pledge, even as it's heading out the door, and that's going to be a huge focus of climate negotiations next
Starting point is 02:38:42 year, which is really cutting emissions. Cutting emissions. You know, here's another problem with this whole gambit. I don't understand why they don't figure this out. Nobody sees the benefit. You know, it's like, you know, the Tesla for a while is like, I get a kind of a cool car. Now everyone sees what there's no resale value. You know, I got to put a generator in the trunk to charge it. If I run out, you know, I'm going to have a jerry can of gas. I'm set of a nice HVAC
Starting point is 02:39:16 system. I got a heat pump, you know, which doesn't work in really cold weather. No, my toilet doesn't flush well, my shower is limited. You know, it's not improving our life. And we've been hearing this since the 70s. That we're all going to die. We're all going to die. You got to deliver. You got to deliver on something. Either you make like really something happen,
Starting point is 02:39:43 which is just not, I don't know. They got to... It's just, it's a grift. It is a grift and it's so obvious and everybody sees it and we're sick of it. Not everybody sees it. Most people don't see it. True. People who see it don't care. Even the greenies, they don't really care. Now, what I did is I went
Starting point is 02:40:06 to the IMF to see what they really had to say because the IMF, these are the real bad guys. These are the guys who get the loan, you know, it's not a grant. No, we're going to lend you the money. There's $300 billion a year. And then we got you by the nuts and then we can you will do whatever we tell you to do this is what happened to Greece just to pull it into Western perspective this has been going on throughout the the undeveloped world for ages so they and I don't know but these people they just get money from all these countries and they go oh I make some charts and it's really important and you know so these are the money people and so they're out there trying to get the money.
Starting point is 02:40:49 They have this new young guy. He looks like a Gen Z or might be a very young millennial, but probably Gen Z and he, they released a video about this and surprise, surprise, not only do we have a model for climate change but they have a model for the money. Well there are many ways to allocate emissions cuts across countries but here we provide an illustration. This uses a model that we built with the World Bank called the climate policy assessment tool and it's based on a methodology that we developed here at the IMF. In our illustrative approach all countries reduce emissions in proportion to their
Starting point is 02:41:24 income. Most countries would need to raise their 2030 emissions targets, but developed countries would continue to cut emissions faster than developing countries. So where are we currently? Well, in this analysis, we find very few major economies have 2030 targets that are aligned with 2 degrees, and currently no major economy is aligned with 1.5. That said, high income countries have collectively become much more ambitious since 2015, while upper middle income countries as a whole are further behind. We think countries could consider forming climate clubs to complement the Paris Agreement.
Starting point is 02:41:59 Climate clubs, John. Climate clubs. Ah, this is interesting. Smaller groups of major emitting countries could agree to cut emissions through specific John. Climate clubs. We think this new target should be based on the needs of developing countries and in the collaborative spirit of the Paris Agreement could be framed as a joint target between developed and developing countries. You know, kid, I should put you over my knee and spank you. So in this second short clip, he explains what is really needed to reduce carbon because we're out of control. It's not working. it's not slowing down.
Starting point is 02:42:47 We're never gonna get to the magic number of 1.5 degrees Celsius. We really, we've gotta tighten it up. We've gotta really do things to people because when you hear the comparison he makes, which is a little dubious and frightening to a degree, is a little dubious and frightening to a degree. To get to the 7% reduction in carbon pollution, emissions, whatever, you'll think we're never going to do this unless you go really authoritarian on us. So how are we doing? By the way, shoot the production manager.
Starting point is 02:43:27 How are we doing? Cue piano. So how are we doing? Well, unfortunately, we are not going nearly fast enough. Since 2020, emissions have continued to rise. So now to limit global warming to 1.5 degrees, we need to cut emissions by 50% below 2019 levels in the next five years. But globally, current country targets would only achieve about a 12% cut in emissions. So this means we need
Starting point is 02:43:56 to go four times faster in the remainder of this decade. We find that if 2030 targets remain as they are, then the world would face a damaging emissions cliff edge. This would require drastic cuts in emissions equivalent to about 7% each and every year out to 2040. Now, to put that into perspective, the unprecedented coronavirus pandemic lockdowns cut global carbon emissions by just 6% in 2020. Maintaining an even higher rate of emissions cutting year after year could be politically,
Starting point is 02:44:27 economically and technically infeasible. So knowing these people are insane, he's saying we need to cut by 7% a year. To put that into perspective, the unprecedented COVID lockdowns only resulted in 6% reduction. I mean, is a logical conclusion that they're thinking about climate lockdowns? Well, you've been saying that for a while. That's, that's the conclusion I have to draw from this. Yeah. Well, they're not going to get away with it.
Starting point is 02:45:09 No, they're not. I have a tech update which regards Google. Well, you probably know the browser because even if you're one of those people that doesn't switch from the default browser when you get a new computer, you would have heard of it. Three and a half billion people around the world use it. That's more than two-thirds of internet users. Now, this actually gloms onto our previous conversation about the search function, them having search, but this guy put some truth into this report, which I thought was worth discussing for a second. You don't use Chrome or Safari, you probably use a browser built on Chromium.
Starting point is 02:45:41 That's an open source code base based on Chrome, which Google releases to the public. Even Edge, the third most popular browser made by Microsoft, is a Chromium browser. The DOJ has asked the federal judge Amit Mehta to order Google to sell Chrome, which is a crucial pillar of its business, even though it's free of charge. Why? Because it's how billions of people make their way onto Google search. Yes, the real monopoly the US justice system has ruled lies in Google's 90% market domination of online search. And search means data, which means money. So if you type into Chrome's search bar to search for something, Google collects all sorts of data on you
Starting point is 02:46:24 and uses this to sell advertising. In fact, the only place this is a little bit different is here in the EU, where since an antitrust ruling six years ago, Chrome has offered a choice of search engines when you install it. This has supposedly been refined since the Digital Markets Act came into effect a couple of years ago. But let's be frank, it's not made a jot of difference to Google's dominance of search. Its market share has actually increased over the last few years. Turns out it's not that easy to convince people to use another search engine when the phrase Google it has become a verb. You know, I think that Chrome and of course, the edge browser is built on Chrome. I think that Chrome and of course the Edge browser is built on Chrome.
Starting point is 02:47:06 I think these are just spy devices. It goes beyond search. It goes... Yeah, we have a, one of our producers sent us a note, pretty much, and he's kind of a spooky producer and he sent us a note saying the whole thing's about spying. Yeah, it is. It's just spying. You know, Google is also, it's Chrome OS, of course,
Starting point is 02:47:28 would also be a problem, which they've rolled out all over the schools and everything to spy on your kids. Yeah. And they want to put Chrome OS into Android, which would be very interesting if they have to separate from Chrome. And then what does that mean? Does someone else then run Chrome?
Starting point is 02:47:45 Some other- CIA. All right, I want to wrap it up today with a little bit of health news, make America healthy again. RFKJ, he's going to do it if we can protect him all the way through the process. If he can get in.
Starting point is 02:48:01 Now we're starting to hear negative concepts that they're, well, you know, of course that's part of the TDS. in there now we're starting to hear negative concepts that there well you know of course that's part of the TDS yes to new TDS yes of course here is CNN discrediting him. Fruit Loops the Wall Street Journal reporting that the company that makes the colorful cereal has quote been under fire for months over its use of artificial food dyes now one of the company's company's highest profile critics, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., has been tapped to become the country's top health official and has vowed to target artificial dyes in cereal that he says contribute to widespread health problems, particularly in children.
Starting point is 02:48:37 Kennedy calling out the manufacturer earlier this month. There are entire departments like the nutrition departments at FDA that have to go, that are not doing their job. They're not protecting our kids. Why do we have Fruit Loops in this country that have 18 or 19 ingredients and you go to Canada and it's got two or three? All right, our panel is back. Anyone a Fruit Loops fan? Did you grow up on Fruit Loops?
Starting point is 02:49:05 Of course. Yeah? On Kellogg's cereal. Of course, big advertiser, Kellogg's cereal. I'm not gonna discredit them. Oh, sugar smacks and whole bits. I mean, look, Kennedy's not wrong about this. This journal story, I don't know if we have it produced,
Starting point is 02:49:17 but like when you look at the difference between American Fruit Loops and right there, right here, the blue bowl, and then the Canadian ones are right here. I mean, like it's obvious, right, that we put a lot more, I mean, or FK Junior probably calls it crap in the cereal. What is it? A lot more, a lot more, shh, shh, shh, shh.
Starting point is 02:49:35 Don't say chemicals, shh, shh, shh. The company says, well, no, that's not the case, but I mean, Dana, like, maybe there's a point. I don't know that we've ever had a nominee for a chemist. It's this polarizing and not in a hot way, right? I mean like either Robert Kennedy is a Froot Loop or he's gonna fix Yeah, of course it is thank you for pointing that out professional is Marty moonlining again Marty would come up with that guy, for sure.
Starting point is 02:50:09 But the big pharma is very concerned about RFKJ and he's already, I mean, and this is a trend. This is another thing that gents ears, the gents, I know so many people who have not had their children vaccinated at all, from birth, because you know, within three hours they want to give your child a hepatitis B vaccine. Yeah. What, why? They're going to have sex.
Starting point is 02:50:35 Which is a sexually transmitted disease. I thought, just an anecdote. So when I first, when hepatitis B, this is years ago, this is 30 years ago, when the hepatitis B vaccine first came out, I had this doctor, kind of an anti-vaxxer, he said, I want to get my vitamin D instead and get me off of flu shots. And so I said, should I get a hepatitis B vaccine? I just said this because it just came out. They were promoting it.
Starting point is 02:51:10 He says, why are you going to work with blood? And you went, what? And then it was, I was, obviously it was like, far as he was concerned, there was no reason in the world that any normal person should ever get a hepatitis B vaccine. So I think this is also a carefully orchestrated piece on CBS. Dr. John Lapooque is here.
Starting point is 02:51:36 And instead of saying people don't want vaccines, like I don't want my kid to have vaccines, which ones? They have questions, they want honest answers. They bring in the hesitancy, vaccine hesitancy. And I think they even have a mother who says, well, I'm vaccine hesitant,
Starting point is 02:51:57 bull crap, you're a shill. Nobody says that. Of course not, nobody says it. Robert Kennedy Jr. has been an outspoken critic of vaccines. Nora. Despite overwhelming evidence that vaccines are safe and effective. Effective. By preventing disease. Now we've confirmed as Secretary of Health and Human Services, public health experts say Kennedy could influence vaccine policy. We get more now from CBS's chief medical correspondent, Dr. John Lapooque. Give me this on the water.
Starting point is 02:52:25 Lauren Maresca says she's had concerns over vaccinating her children. Anything I give my child, I always question. I get a little anxious. When 11-year-old Gio was an infant, he got his childhood vaccines right on schedule. Always had a reaction every single time, hives, rash. I started to get hesitancy in saying, all right, can we space this? I started to get hesitancy, John. Is that?
Starting point is 02:52:50 I started to get hesitancy. This is scripted. Every single time hives rash, I started to get hesitancy and saying, all right, can we space these out? And the doctor kind of made me feel like you're being dramatic, but okay. After scouring the internet for information, the New York mom hit pause on additional shots for Gio and three-year-old Julina. Then, the family's pediatrician issued an ultimatum.
Starting point is 02:53:14 You have to take all the vaccines or you're out of the practice. Yeah, here we go, baby. Now, before we continue with this clip, it turns out, and there's a lot of discussion on this, maybe you're going into it, that these pediatricians are vaccine factories. That's all they do. They don't get a, they get bonuses for having everyone vaccinated. Careful, careful. That's not, don't say it that way because you'll get a million, no, I'll get a million
Starting point is 02:53:43 emails. This, they don't get bonuses, but it is up to 40% of their income. that way because you'll get a million, no, I'll get a million emails. This, they don't get bonuses, but it is up to 40% of their income. It's just, it's just the business. It's not, it's not like they get extra for pushing extra. Their whole business model is built on it. Yes. I don't think they get extra. In fact, I'm quite sure they don't get extra.
Starting point is 02:54:02 Okay. I'm putting it in incorrectly. Okay. Yeah, the whole thing's a scam. It's just from the get-go. It's a scam, yes. It's a grift. It's a grift.
Starting point is 02:54:11 Here we go, part two. Public health officials stress vaccines are safe and effective, and the benefits far outweigh the risks. But a recent survey found at least 12% of children have a vaccine-hesitant parent. I think it's important to kind of understand the thought process of why a patient is refusing a vaccination. New York City pediatrician, Dr. Ayala Wegman says,
Starting point is 02:54:33 in recent years, she's been navigating increased vaccine skepticism. You hear some parents say, why do we have to have so many vaccines so soon? The reason why we present infants with immunizations early on in their life is because their immune system is really susceptible to not only viral but bacterial infections. 45 states permit non-medical exemptions and kindergarten vaccination rates have fallen to
Starting point is 02:54:57 93 percent below the 95 percent target for herd immunity. that increases risk for the vulnerable Yeah, like those who are immunocompromised or too young to be vaccinated This is very interesting because I got a lot of people emailing me as usual saying you don't understand how vaccines work and one of the most prevalent arguments is Vaccines activate your immune system so that you then become you know immune but the the virus even if you're vaccinated the virus enters your system and so if you're around an unvaccinated child you get a full load and then you can actually still get sick because the vaccine is so safe and effective.
Starting point is 02:55:45 I mean, people try to explain this to me and I'm like, no, the whole point is your immune system is immune. You're immune from it. You are sterilized. You have an immune system to begin with. Yes, thank you. Which you should not be tinkering with when you're three hours old. I'm not a doctor, but I'm not stupid. Does everybody understand that when they're, quote unquote, rolling the dice for their own child, they're actually rolling the dice for other children around them who are not immunized?
Starting point is 02:56:16 Most people, when they come to the office, they're really concerned, most importantly, about their precious little one. And so it becomes really important for us as doctors to communicate the safety and the efficacy of these vaccines. Geo was begging me he wants to go to school. He doesn't want to be kicked out. Faced with school vaccine mandates, the Marescas reluctantly vaccinated their sons. Stop again. Stop, stop. What kid ever did said that in their lives, especially in the younger age? The kid who is scripted.
Starting point is 02:56:47 I want to go to school. No kids ever said, no one ever said ever. Well this is the message. The message is don't get, your kid's not vaccinated, you're getting kicked out of school. That's the message here from Dr. John. Which contradicts what the Department of Education wants because they get paid so much from the government to have kids in school so there's there's mixed messaging going on here they don't know what to do. Gio was begging me he wants to go to school he doesn't want to be
Starting point is 02:57:14 kicked out. Faced with school vaccine mandates the Marescas reluctantly vaccinated their son but are still looking for empathy. Don't be dismissive with us don't patronize us Don't make us feel stupid. It's critical that you are honest with them, that you frame the discussion with facts. Facts. Facts. And a willingness to listen. Yeah, so we're gonna give you facts
Starting point is 02:57:37 and you need a willingness to listen. I have two more short clips, but first a quick note from one of our producers who heard this conversation on the last episode where I said the ER doctor, he predicts that there will be, there could be pediatricians who might actually kill themselves once they find out how much harm they've done to children with this 76 vaccine schedule. And she says, Andrea Dickert, as a certified neonatal intensive care, NICU, registered nurse who administered many vaccines in my eight years of working at level four, that's the highest level of care at a NICU, I can attest that I too felt so much shame and regret at the possibility that I may have
Starting point is 02:58:18 caused more harm than good to so many of my patients, especially when I witnessed adverse reactions firsthand and some of them on preemie babies that we administer them to. So prematurely born babies. Another side note, many of the vaccines that are given to preemies are administered against manufacturing guidelines as many of them do not meet the weight requirements for the dosage. But instead of offing myself, as your ER doctor friend stated, I decided to push back and do something about it. So I started a podcast with the goal of empowering parents to make decisions for themselves and
Starting point is 02:59:03 their children by using knowledge, insight, and intuition, not fear or social pressure. So if any of the No Agenda producers wants to hear the founder explain for herself what she has discovered or if anyone wants to gain some more insight, people always ask me this about what true informed consent is. They can listen to the podcast, the Fearless Motherhood podcast. Fearless Motherhood? Yes, the Fearless Motherhood podcast. Fearless Motherhood? Yes, the Fearless Motherhood podcast. So I want to plug that.
Starting point is 02:59:29 Okay, that sounds like a winner. Yeah, go podcasting. Finally then, and I don't understand why, if Gorka is considered to be an advisor, how come former CDC director Redfield is not an advisor? This is the guy who came out right away and said, no, no, no, no. These facts- Is this the bearded guy?
Starting point is 02:59:49 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's great. Yeah, so here he is. Do you think we should be worried at all, like if he gets confirmed, that he could sort of start a real no vaccine culture and put that into public policy? Talking about RFKJ.
Starting point is 03:00:03 No, Brian, I don't think that. I mean, I'm probably one of the biggest advocates for vaccine. You mentioned that when I was CDC director, I would say that I think vaccines are the greatest gift for science to modern medicine. And I still believe that. Kennedy's not anti-vaccine.
Starting point is 03:00:20 What Kennedy is about is transparency about vaccine, honest discussion about vaccines, asking for the data to show that these vaccines are safe and they're efficacious. And the mere question of asking, what's the data for safety, many of his detractors say, okay, well, you're anti-vax. No, just show me the safety data. Show me the efficacy data. I have high confidence that Kennedy is going to be a strong supporter of transparency on vaccines and where the vaccine data shows that they're efficacious and a benefit to the American public, he will promote them.
Starting point is 03:01:02 And then the real issue, which he says here. I think Brian, we need transformational change. Right now we've created over the last 20, 30 years, we've developed a disease system. We need to make a health system. And when Kennedy says he wants to help make America healthy again, when I was CDC director, one of the challenges was
Starting point is 03:01:25 we lost about 1.2 million people died of COVID. Other countries like Taiwan lost less than 10,000 people. Why did we lose so many people? We lost so many people because we're a sick nation. And Kennedy really committed to making us healthy again. And I do agree with you. We should all get behind them. Making a healthy America is not a partisan issue.
Starting point is 03:01:50 We ought to get behind them and help them make us healthy again. The problem is it's a money issue. It's an advertising issue. It's a grift issue. That's the problem. Yeah. That's the problem. And it has a lot to do with the fact that prescription drugs are advertised on television
Starting point is 03:02:08 and they can, and they dominate the money flow. And so they, the TV stations and a lot of magazines in fact, do what they're told. I keep getting a lot of- There's a problem with the corruption of advertising. That's why we don't take advertising in this show. And we suffer for it. It was perfect. It was perfect. It was perfect. Well, it was perfect. It was perfect.
Starting point is 03:02:31 I'm stepping on it every time now. Just say, that's why we don't take advertising on this show. I'll fix it in post. No one will know. That's why we don't take advertising on this show. I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda.
Starting point is 03:02:55 In the morning. That's right, we don't take advertising on this show. We just do a service. We deliver a service. We perform a service for you, Noah Jen, the nation. We keep your amygdala in check. We make sure that you feel calm and that you're ready to face the world and your family during Thanksgiving. Go to your family. Give thanks. Love them. Hug them. It'll be okay. And we're going to thank our producers who came in $50 and above. And we have a tip of the day coming. We have great end of show mixes, nice meetup reports,
Starting point is 03:03:26 including one from El Salvador. John, take us through the fifties. And I will mention that we do not fix stuff in post. I think that people who are listening notice by now. Yes. MK Ultra, what does this say? Marker, marker? What?
Starting point is 03:03:43 What? I'm doing other things.? Marker? What? I'm doing other things. What? What? Okay, I'll take a look. Okay, it should be MK Ultra Mark in Brooklyn, New York. 10535.
Starting point is 03:03:55 Yes. Somebody got an extra R in there. I won't say who or why. But there it was. Ian Field, $100. Allie Jade. Oh, good old Allie Jade. Allie Jade, yes. We read her note on the previous. That's for OperationChristmasCheer.com. Yes, and she ended up on this spreadsheet.
Starting point is 03:04:17 Yes. Brownie in Highland Ranch, Colorado, $100. Good old Brownie. I wonder where he went. David Keys in Riverside, California, 100. Jason Marer in Vancouver, Washington, 100. One of the great towns in the world because you don't pay a state personal income tax and you just drive a couple of blocks and you're in Portland where you don't pay sales tax. It's a winner.
Starting point is 03:04:42 Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina. 8008, he's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs, along with Jonathan Ferris in liberal Kansas. 8008. Abelson dos Santos in Luanda. AO, where is that? 7903. Angola maybe. Appreciate the best podcast in the world. He says, yeah, yeah, Luanda, Angola. No, how about that? Trump, I'm going to come and do the climate change. Well, maybe we'll do that later, but we don't do that here. No, not really. Abelson. No, not really. But I love hearing from people from Luanda. Yes. John Roberts in Yucaypa, California, 75, I think.
Starting point is 03:05:32 Matthew Elwart, I should know, Matthew Elwart in Weatherford, Texas, 6006. Graham Bucknell in French's Forest, Australia, 5723, which is Australia, Aussie boobs. That's 8008 in Aussie dollars. Australian boobs. They look good. They look good. Raphael Figueroa in Miami, Florida, 5510. Don't have a long note from Sur Prize in Yukon, Oklahoma.
Starting point is 03:06:03 long note from Sur Prize in UConn, Oklahoma. Um, 5444. He's a 78th orbit around. 78th orbit, huh? He wants a, uh, we can give him a biscuit for his birthday. At least hold on a second. Don't have a biscuit here. Uh, the biscuit is in the oven. Well, he's got I don't know what he's with his note says. Well, he
Starting point is 03:06:31 has, they always give me a biscuit on my birthday. But it's super long. I don't know. No, I was he's saying the value. He's saying you didn't invent the value for value model has been around forever. Yeah, well, we just said that we derived it. We derived it from both churches and public broadcasting. They've been doing it since when they were, since they began. And nonprofits. They use time, talent, treasure.
Starting point is 03:06:56 Yes, of course. We never took credit for invention. We invented it for podcasting. Yes, for sure. Sir Jubjub in Elkton, Florida, 52.72. Um, Dean Dowsett in Milan, Italy. No, Illinois. Oh, 52.72. Uh, Lauren in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 52 70. These are all $50 donations. Uh, but they put the, put the extra may cost $2 and 72 cents to do that.
Starting point is 03:07:36 Uh, Jennifer Williams and Davy Crockett national forest in Texas. I didn't know the Davy Crockett had a forest in Texas, but I guess he did. He deserves it. 52 70. Yeah. Well, he died at the Alamo. Sir Jackson in Levelyn, Texas, 5272, with Jobs Karma, we'll give you some of that at the end if Adam remembers. Baron Henry in Rancho Palos Verde, California, 5242, that's interesting, it would be different. Matthew Olmsted in San Diego, California, 50.05. Ah, this is a night note you can read.
Starting point is 03:08:07 Hi, John and Adam, you said you break for night, so I hope you read this on the show, of course. I don't know what else to try at this point. I got hit by a huge layoff earlier this year, and even with a Linda Lupatkin resume and getting my CISSP this year, after only two weeks study, I haven't gotten a single offer
Starting point is 03:08:24 and can barely get interviews I've been actively on the job searching over eight months and my wife's car got totaled last week on top of her job Not paying enough to cover normal expenses. It sucks This is a plea for help. He says I can't relocate because of my wife's job So I either need a software engineering position in San Diego or something fully remote. I don't need jingles or karma. I need referrals or to talk to hiring managers. For any fellow producers who might be able to help, my CV is here. MatttheTall.site.cv.
Starting point is 03:09:10 MatttheTall.site.cv. Help a brother out, everybody. Gonna give him a job. Yeah, give him a job. Give him something to do. Greg Mellon in Glenmoor, Pennsylvania, 5047. A Forest Martin, 5005. And now we have the $50 donors, name and location as they go down the list here.
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Starting point is 03:13:31 And people love doing them. And I always encourage you to get your servers in on the deal. You can hit them in the mouth. I think some of the producers did that in these reports. We start with Snohomish, Washington. In the morning, ladies and germs, my name is Worry. This is my first meetup. Apparently it's a lot of first meetups for a lot of people, so we're excited to experience
Starting point is 03:13:51 this. I'll pass the phone along to see who else wants to talk about it. In the morning this is Savannah. Happy to report this meetup was not AI generated. Hooey, hooey from Snohomish. This is my first meetup and we we got a great group of people here. Oh, in the morning. How you guys doing? Yo, having so much fun.
Starting point is 03:14:11 Hey, this is Zach. I'm here at the No Agenda meetup that Jorge set up and the Doritos are douchebags. Hi, this is Nehomara. In the morning. Hi, I'm Daniel. This is my first No Agenda Meetup and I'm glad I came in the morning. Woo! All right, take care, buddy. Later fellas. North Georgia, come on in.
Starting point is 03:14:33 In the morning, Gitmo Nation, Sir Bob here from the North Georgia Monthly Meetup. We had another good turnout. Everybody had a good time and we tipped heavily. Let's see what everybody had to say. Hello, it's Ro. See y'all next month. Sir E here. Remember, it's Ro. See y'all next month. Sir E here. Remember, connection is protection.
Starting point is 03:14:48 This is Sir R, and I must say I really enjoyed the double tip. Sean here. Gobble gobble, y'all. Hey, NA. Dr. Sir, Mike Roche. Tip of the meetup. Look. Call your parents.
Starting point is 03:15:04 They want to hear from you. tell your mom. I said, hey My name is Troy. I'm a server at Cherry Street and sir Bob just hit me in the mouth. There you go Cody signing out no agenda rocks the best barkeep at Cherry Street house. Yeah in the morning That's how you do it. Now we go to Bitcoin Beach in El Salvador in the morning. No agenda nation This is Pablo here from French speaking Scandinavia, coming to you live from El Zonte, El Salvador, AKA Bitcoin Beach, it's block height 871,380. And they say all hell's gonna break loose,
Starting point is 03:15:37 you're gonna need yourself a Bitcoin. And this is Frederick, No Agenda Night of the Order of Binary 42 here on location, orange-pilling foreigners and selling Bitcoin art, This is Frederick, no agenda night of the order of Binary 42 here on location, orange pilling foreigners and selling Bitcoin art, stacking sats and trying to stay humble, becoming tri-legal, trying to speak third language. Back over to you Pablo. It's hot and sweaty, but it's like a party.
Starting point is 03:15:58 Yeah, thank you very much. I appreciate that. Then of course we have the big group there in Ocala, Florida. Here is their meetup for the month of November. In the morning, John and Adam, this is Dame Meoudison here. We have a nice big group in Ocala. We did our Glass Bonnet Boat Tour, saw some manatees, had a great hang and just wanted to say thank you for your courage, love the show, and keep up the good work. David from Dade City in the warning, John and Adam. And Adam, we love you even though we all know you're jealous of Iloma. This is Paul visiting Silver Springs Bay Park as survived the monkey poop war of 2024.
Starting point is 03:16:36 We saw plenty of animals on the glass bottom boats, but no peanut and Fred, unfortunately. Jackson and Ocala, where we're all waiting for the seasoning of reveal. This is 4H Mama from Florida where they've got the best Muscadine wine. We're gonna be green guy in the morning. In the morning. Canadian refugees. Hey Joan and Adam, ITM thank you for the club. In the morning fellas. One, two, Trump is coming for all. In the morning, this is Leslie. Thank you for your courage. This is the Reiki Princess. So excited we had an amazing time.
Starting point is 03:17:09 If you haven't checked out the Silver Springs State Park in Ocala, definitely do it. And don't forget to join us at our next meetup. We're gonna be throwing axes and knives. Yeah. In the morning. Ah, nothing like throwing axes and knives. That's how you do a No Agenda Meetup.
Starting point is 03:17:25 Thank you very much, Reiki Princess. Taking place today, we have the Indian and a tribal count and count and count on a US Meetup that is underway at the Broad Ripple Tavern in Indianapolis. Mark and Maria, they should get a good report from them. On Tuesday, the Denver pre-giving Meetup 630 Denver demure time Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver Colorado and on Wednesday the night before Thanksgiving meetup 5 o'clock at Club Raven in Sacramento California many more meetups to be found on the calendar I suggest you go take a look it is an experience
Starting point is 03:17:58 you will always remember you will want to do it more and more and more and more and more just like eating potato chips no NoagendaMeetups.com. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you want to be, triggered or held to blame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. Yeah, like a party. I have three.
Starting point is 03:18:35 Three ISOs. We'd like to choose the end of show ISO at this point in the program. Why we do it? I don't know. It's fun. It's fun. It's another competition that John and I can have amongst each other. And here's my first one. It's too long, but here it is anyway. Oh, that is not professional. Okay, nope. Second one. This was fun.
Starting point is 03:18:59 Hmm. Or or I see a douchebag. No, that I think that that has has potential. I like the middle one. Yeah, you would. It was K-Part. Here we go with my I only have one. It's just one I grabbed is O. Oh, compared to... This was fun. I would even do it I would even do a double up. Oh, this is fun. How about that? Oh, that's nice I think okay, we'll do that. All right, everybody. Let's take it away for John's with JCD and sometimes Atom. I got a culinary tip, which I've been sitting on for awhile. And boy that hurts.
Starting point is 03:19:58 And this is a product that is used in Southeast Asian cooking. And I've gotten to a discussion with JC about it. He claims that this is originally a condiment or flavoring ingredient that came from the Romans and then got to somehow got to China where then it was changed over time to the Southeast Asia where they make it all over the place. It's called and it's got a I don't think the names are appropriate but it's called fish sauce. Fish sauce. All right. Now you can find it at, you can get it on Amazon. There's a bunch of brands. There's in fact, there's more brands than you can imagine.
Starting point is 03:20:33 I would recommend people start with Red Boat, which was a fairly new fish sauce maker, but he does it the right way. He gets the, it's, fish sauce is made from black anchovies that have been fermented in salt for one year in a barrel. Wow. And as with French cooking, sometimes you use anchovies like they're used in Caesar salads and you know, you're taking your, they're always salted and you scrape it off and you
Starting point is 03:21:03 mix it into different sauces. This accomplishes the same thing. And a couple of things you should know. One, it doesn't taste like fish. Good to know. It, and I would recommend getting Red Boat, which is done by, which is a new company, fairly new company developed by an Apple engineer who is Vietnamese. He couldn't find good fish sauce because what the Asians do
Starting point is 03:21:29 and what smart European cooks do is you use it as a salt substitute in spaghetti sauces and soups and stews. That was going to be my question is what do you use it on? So as a salt substitute in spaghetti and soups. Yeah, it adds umami that you wouldn't get from salt, like a lot of it. It's an umami ingredient where you do, which is the, you know, the latest buzzword in the cooking circles is umami, which is mouthfeel. And it adds umami and a lot of salt. What you do is when you buy it, you get your bottle of Red Boat, which is
Starting point is 03:22:04 a starter. There's all kinds of companies that make this, but this is the one that's extremely popular in this country because of the Apple connection. The guy knows how to market to Americans. Uh, you take a drop or two of it and put in a spoon and taste it. You'll see what I'm talking about. It's electrically salty and delicious, but it doesn't taste like fish. It's just some sort of, and I'm sorry that they call it fish
Starting point is 03:22:27 sauce, but that's basically it's fermented anchovy juice. It's bad marketing fish sauce. Well, it's just what it's called. So you put a couple of shakes in your spaghetti sauce as a secret ingredient, knock, it'll knock the thing up two notches in terms of deliciousness. Exit strategy.
Starting point is 03:22:49 Do you think you could make this fish sauce? Do you think you have the chops to make it? I could make it, but I wouldn't do it cost-effectively like they can in Cambodia, for example. Ah, yeah, but wait. But wait. That has nothing to do with it. You just need the right branding. For instance, I can see a two for one,
Starting point is 03:23:13 John C. Devorax, Seasoning of Reveal, and as a bonus you get Umami Magic. Now that's a name for a fish sauce. Umami Magic. That's a good name. Umami Magic. Okay, well then the way it should be done, as you think ahead of the game, private label some stuff out of Vietnam.
Starting point is 03:23:36 Just get some crap and put Umami Magic on it. No, it's not crap. But I'm telling you, this stuff, if people start using this in their everyday cooking, can we? Now, I will say this. This is an exit. Umami Magic is a winner. Okay. I wrote it down. So there's an area called Phu Quoc that is outside of the bottom of Vietnam, where she's got the best waters for these black anchovies.
Starting point is 03:24:05 And so you look for that name, you're gonna get some good quality stuff. But I should mention this, that's why the Red Boat's kind of interesting, because it's a small bottle. I had bought a bottle of fish sauce from another brand in a 750 or a liter. I've had it for five years. You can't use enough of it. I mean, it's just like a couple of shakes and you're done. And then you're done for the whatever next time you make spaghetti sauce or whatever sauce. It lasts forever. Kids will love it. They will love it
Starting point is 03:24:37 on their SpaghettiOs. Everybody wants the small batch. You put it in the sauce. Now, I suppose you could put it directly on the SpaghettiOs if you want salty SpaghettiOs. I'm trying to get out of the same thing. But anyways, fish sauce, Vietnamese, the other Southeast Asian countries make it too. And I would start with the Red Boat and then try other ones after that.
Starting point is 03:24:59 Start with Red Boat and then move your way up to John C. DeVorek's Small Batch Umami Magic. There it is. Tip of the day. Tip of the day dot net. We'll be bringing that to market right after the microphone company kicks off. It's going to be awesome. Vinegar book. Hey, everybody. Thank you very much. It was fun today. I enjoyed
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Starting point is 03:26:11 Oh hi Billy Bones. Also end of show mixes L7 Square, David Kekta and Jeffrey Crocker who is doing some dynamite work. We'll be back on Thursday, Thanksgiving and we'll be here for you with Umami Magic. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, FEMA Region Number 6 in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. Yeah, from Northern Silicon Valley where we had a stream from hell rainstorm that's now gone, I'm John C. DeVorek. We return on Thursday, Thanksgiving, see you then, adios, mofos, a hooey hooey, and such. Deeply worrying statement from Vladimir Putin. He's putting his strategic defense forces on a state of height and readiness.
Starting point is 03:26:52 It certainly sounds like nuclear saber rattling. Putin is ordering the country's deterrence forces, which does include nuclear weapons, to be on high alert. It is nuclear saber rattling. Nuclear saber rattling. Putin is crazy enough to try a tactical move. Vladimir Putin is known for having a very heavy heat, increasing the nuclear deterrence readiness level. Russia sets off a small, low-yield nuclear weapon just to shock everybody.
Starting point is 03:27:28 Our nuclear coercion, this nuclear signaling is a critical component of it. He's threatening to potentially lean into nuclear by saying he's raising his threat level. A bit of a saber-rattle here is ordered his Russian nuclear deterrent forces upon the home earth. It is nuclear saber rattling. Nuclear saber rattling. I just want to comment on the nuclear stuff. Matt Gaetz has long denied all allegations, calling the claims quote invented and saying
Starting point is 03:28:00 in a statement to ABC News that this false smear following a three-year criminal investigation should be viewed with great skepticism. The DOJ investigation was closed with no charges being brought. When she asked, she had to read a legal statement. The look on her face, she is so steamed up that she has to do this. Because it's humiliating. It's basically humiliation that she's doing this. This is the way the games play.
Starting point is 03:28:36 As a career prosecutor and former Attorney General of Florida, I've fought corruption. And I know what it looks like, whether it's done by people wearing pen striped suits or orange jumpsuits. Humiliating. Of course, of course, of course, of course, of course. Humiliating. So there it is in my nutshell. This is a bunch of bull crap. A warning. This piece includes the sound of gunfire.
Starting point is 03:29:10 No ball. Yeah. What you wanna do? What you wanna do? If you don't quit. Yeah. If you don't stop. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:29:21 I'm letting my gang pop. No ball. Not pop. Yeah. And you don't stop. Trying to I'm letting my gang ride through the wall. Yeah, and you don't stop. Trying to keep people calm, trying to keep people from panicking in what is here. And there, we have just heard the first siren has just gone off. And I've been told by city officials that that indicates that this is a city under attack.
Starting point is 03:29:45 But again, it's the first time we have heard sirens in the Capitol. What you want to do? What you want to do? Hold on there for a second because you've been hearing explosions now for a couple of hours. And we were asking about these sirens. You said they've been tested. Let's just listen. The sirens are now underway. We have reports of missiles and explosions. Let's listen for a minute. If you don't quit, yeah. If you don't stop, yeah. I'm letting my gang pop. Not a cop.
Starting point is 03:30:16 Alright, those are the sirens we have been listening for. Erin, stand by for a second. I want to go to Richard. There we go. There's the sirens again. Erin, we had to... I've been wondering, Ali... Yes? We had been wondering why we hadn't heard sirens. We all heard the explosions. We were wondering where the sirens were.
Starting point is 03:30:36 I've been told by city officials that they had tested this system earlier in the week. They said it was working and now, hours into this attack, we are now hearing this siren system, the learning people that this attack is on their way. It is a remarkable development. I want you to stay with us. I want you to stay with us. The West Podcast in the Universe.
Starting point is 03:31:20 Audio, mofo. Dvorak.org slash NA. Oh, this was fun.

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