No Agenda - 1720 - "Psyop Season"

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 They're going to reinvent the flat tire. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, December 12th, 2024. This is your award winning Kibble Nation Media assassination episode 1720. This is No Agenda. As big as an SUV and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country
Starting point is 00:00:19 here in FEMA region number six. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all saying the same thing shoot down the drones I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning. You know it's that time of year again John it comes at least once a year it it's that time again, it is psy-op season. Let's let everybody go crazy over everything. It's great. You know, there's something about it.
Starting point is 00:00:54 It makes you buy more stuff at the store for Christmas. It must. It must. Well, we better get... It has to because everyone takes it as the end of the days. The end times are here. Season of reveal. Go buy stuff. Oh man, it's so good. It is so good.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I'm just sitting here smiling doing prep in the morning. I do have a bonus clip to play which gets us off to the right start I think. Okay, yes the bonus clip came in and claiming came in complete and here we go. In focus now Republican Congressman Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey, member, the bonus clip came in, it came in complete, and here we go. In focus now, Republican Congressman Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey, member of the House Judiciary Committee on the Hill right now. How do you address this at this point? Well, here's the real deal, Harris. You know, I'm also on the Transportation Committee, on the Aviation Subcommittee, and I've gotten
Starting point is 00:01:42 to know people. And from very high sources, very qualified sources. I'm a really high source man. Very responsible sources. I'm gonna tell you the real deal. Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones. That mothership is off, I'm gonna tell you the deal. It's off the East Coast of the United States of America. They've launched drones. It's everything that we can see or
Starting point is 00:02:09 hear. And again, these are from high sources. I don't say this lightly. No doubt. Now, no doubt there was a probability it could have been our own government. We know it's not our own government because they would have let us know. It could have been some really glorified hobbyist or hobbyists that were doing something unbelievable. They don't have the technology. But let's pretend that's possible. The third possibility was somebody,
Starting point is 00:02:33 an adversarial country doing this. Know that Iran made a deal with China to purchase drones, motherships, and technology in order to go forward. The sources I have are good. They can't reveal who they are because they are speaking to me in confidentiality. These drones should be shot down. Whether it was some crazy hobbyist that we can't imagine or whether it is Iran and I
Starting point is 00:03:00 think it very possibly could be, they should be shot down. We are not getting the full deal and the military is on alert with this. Look, you've given us some pretty dire information just here and I want to make sure that our viewers are digesting this. Iran has the capability to pull up along our eastern seaboard and launch drones the size of an SUV into the skies of several states, particularly New Jersey, where we know the incoming president has a large home, also in the same county or nearby where some of these drones in New Jersey have
Starting point is 00:03:35 been seen. Oh man, very high sources. They're high as a kite these sources, I tell you. This guy is something else. Well, you know, I, and this morning show, uh, that woman, uh, Harrison, Harris, yes, yes, Harris. She, um, said that she talked to some other guys, including Gonzalez, and they confirmed what this guy said. All I know is Joe Rogan called. He wants his mothership name back. He's sick and tired of it. So let's go talk to the military then.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Let's go talk to the Pentagon and see what they have to say about these mysterious drones. Sabrina, can you tell me what the Pentagon is doing to address this issue of drone sightings over New Jersey? It's near sensitive installations. The FBI's involved. What is the Pentagon doing? Sure. So at this time, so aware of those drone sightings that have been reported, at this time we have
Starting point is 00:04:32 no evidence that these activities are coming from a foreign entity or the work of an adversary. We're going to continue to monitor what is happening, but you know, at no point were our installations threatened when this activity was occurring. These are not US military drones. Again, this is being investigated by local law enforcement. Our initial assessment here is that these are not drones or activities coming from a foreign entity or adversary. Well, how does that square with the mothership?
Starting point is 00:05:03 This is no good. Representative Jeff Van Drew, who is a Republican from New Jersey, was just on the air saying that Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones and that mothership is off the coast of the United States. Why are they using the term mothership which imply, well, I would, we both know why. Yeah, because it's bull crap. Why are they using the word mothership which implies a flying saucer? Because it's a Psi-op.
Starting point is 00:05:32 This whole thing is a Psi-op and it shall be revealed. All shall be revealed, but we need to have some more fun with the nonsense. The absolute, yes, you are correct. The fact that they're calling it a mothership is kind of a clue and I completely believe that representative drew heard from some very high sources That this is the launch from the mothership from Iran. I completely believe someone told him that now Oh, I do too. He was an insincere. No he's very sincere and he's freaked out because that's what you do. He contains these drones and that mothership is off the coast of the east coast
Starting point is 00:06:12 of the United States. Yeah you know that is very annoying that they've done that. I mean it's almost like hey let's make sure the guys that know Agenda know this is bullcrap. I know. Let's call it a mothership. Wouldn't you call it like the launching vehicle, the launching platform, the drone ship, the carrier. There's so many things you could call it, but to call it the mothership is a big flag. No one's ever used that term in this context ever before that we know of. No, the mothership is always either a comedy club in Austin. The USS John Kennedy is not the mothership. It's not the mothership of the jets, no. ...the east coast of the United States. Is there any truth to that?
Starting point is 00:06:54 There is not any truth to that. There is no Iranian ship off the coast of the United States, and there's no so-called mothership launching drones towards the United States. But the SIOP is working as intended because everybody's coming out, especially if you're in New Jersey. And I want to say right off the bat, there's a couple of things that are very difficult to do. As an airman, I know it is very hard to gauge how high something is flying, feet-wise, you know, you look at, or even missed.
Starting point is 00:07:26 It's very hard to look up and say, okay, is this missed 500 feet, a thousand feet, is it three thousand feet? Just to back you up on this, anyone who's been near an airport and watched a small plane take off and then watch the 747 take off. And the 747 is going a lot faster, looks like it's not even moving. It's just a phenomenon. It's just an optical illusion. It also depends on the headwinds. But my point is, you can't tell height, you can't really, it's hard to tell speed unless it's going right. You know right across you
Starting point is 00:08:06 You can kind of gauge speed and you certainly can't gauge size But when you when you're throwing mothership out there people come out of the woodworks and they all appear on News Nation Well, I saw a drone if it wasn't It was not the drone you see people fly. There's the picture. It was the size of a school bus. The size of a school bus now. Literally the size of my two- Car garage. Well, I have a one-car garage.
Starting point is 00:08:33 The size of a two-car garage. Two-car garage. And what happened when you saw it or you started taking pictures, et cetera? Well, look, to back up a little bit, I'm coming home from On Patrol Live. It's 1230 at night and I get into Montclair, New Jersey and I see the full moon and I'm like, well, it can't be a full moon because the full moon was two weeks ago. All of a sudden it's getting closer and closer. Then first I think it's a plane that a helicopter, then it's hovering right over the woods as
Starting point is 00:09:00 you're entering Montclair and it's a drone literally 40 feet wide by 40 feet wide. It's 40 feet wide by 40 feet wide. It's a big block of of drone 40 feet two garages. It's a school bus. It's flying. Makes no noise but it's flying. Hovering right over the woods. Hovering. Pull over get out of my car forget about the phone. I'm just like looking at this thing wondering what the heck it is. Then I said, I should take a picture. I grab my phone, starts the second it like notices I'm out there. It just starts heading south.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Grab the picture. It looks like the picture looks like a dot. Looks like the very most like a plan nine from outer space flying saucer. But I got a good close look at it when I was only about 100 feet off the ground. They did it off the ground. yeah look like a drone on steroids Drone the size of a garage. Okay, so I'm just gonna say no just looking at weight and size and You would have to have a very very noisy propulsion system to keep something like that hovering.
Starting point is 00:10:06 So I'm just going to say no, it was not the size of a school bus. But this is really, this has freaked everybody out. Here's the New Jersey assemblyman who drove two hours to come to the meeting to find out nothing. Alright, so you're here today. You were just inside. You walked out. Why? I walked out because it was worthless. It was the biggest amateur hour presentation I've ever seen about anything. It was ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:10:30 There were no answers. Every question that was asked by a member of the state legislature, great questions, no answers. No resolution. They don't know where the drones are coming from. They don't know who's doing it. They don't know why they're doing it. But they say there's no credible threat.
Starting point is 00:10:43 It was annoying to be there. I drove two hours to be here today spent an hour in there I got to drive two hours back the biggest waste of five hours in my entire life so why do you think they called this no idea why would you call me to tell people you don't know anything I have no idea and then when the legislators were asked questions there were no answers here's the most frustrating part the Colonel State Police said that he had a helicopter of his flying over, above, one of these drones, a six foot drone or something, I can't remember exactly what he said, and
Starting point is 00:11:10 he just, he felt unsafe for his helicopter so he just let it go. Just let it go. Let it go! Who knows? You know? Didn't want to follow it because he didn't feel safe. Follow it to the mother ship! Is that not the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard?
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yup. I mean honestly. Do they have any, do they have any idea where these drones are originating? No, they don't. They would. Maybe if they followed that sucker to when it landed, they would know. But they don't. This is a complete lack of effort, in my opinion, on trying to figure this out.
Starting point is 00:11:36 This is not about ability. We have the technology. We have the people. We have the training. We have the resources. We have the money. It's just a lack of effort. I mean
Starting point is 00:11:48 Why I don't know. Oh something must be up but always remember No agenda is your mental healing center. We we will take care of you at all costs So I'm rummaging around and like, okay Let me see what's going on here because this there's got to be something there's too many politicians running around telling us all kinds of stories and sources and I just love the media jumping on the school bus the size of a two-car garage I mean this is a flying to gargoyle to car garage that makes no sound okay and then we have Representative Green. And this was what started me down some rabbit holes. Let's bring in the chairman of House of Security, Congressman Mark Green. Congressman, thanks for spending time with us on this story.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Thanks for joining us. What's going on here? What more do we know about these drones? How come the people in government don't know what's going on? So these drones could be from anyone, a recreational user, they could be from our adversaries that are spying on our infrastructure and the layout of our infrastructure, our military. We don't know, you're right, we don't know. The problem is that the authorizations are about to expire, so we've got legislation
Starting point is 00:13:01 right now to renew those and to expand the authorizations that allow both DOJ and DHS and in this legislation advance those authorities to local authorities to actually watch these things and in the case of where there's a threat to destroy them we're working on that legislation it's my bill we're gonna make it happen. Alright so this legislation notice by way, the number of these reports threw in a little, oh, they're flying over Trump's Bedminster, New Jersey golf course. Just to add a little bit to it. Sure. So this guy, he's talking about some legislation that needs to be redone or reaffirmed or re-upped.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And this is a multi-prong. I can think I can make a pretty clear case what this is about. This is about getting rid of your drone. Your drones are gone. Here's what he was talking about. FBI DOJ and Border Patrol officials have asked house lawmakers to give state and local authorities coverage permission for unmanned aircraft systems so that they can now be in charge of what you fly in the sky.
Starting point is 00:14:17 And so right now it's the FAA, the Federal Aviation Administration, they're saying, no, no, we want control over the drones that fly around because the only drones that will be sanctioned Will obviously be those from Amazon and Walmart and your little fun drone is going to be over Then I come across the American Security Drone Act Which has only been introduced but I'm pretty sure this is what this is about and it is all about prohibition of procurement of covered unmanned aircraft systems from covered foreign entities. No more Chinese drones for you. That's what this is about. Because they know, and when I say they,
Starting point is 00:14:57 the lawmakers, the military, industrial complex, Eric Schmidt, they know that drones is the future of warfare and they want to have total control, and you will not be allowed to buy a drone from China or any other covered country. That's what this is about. They're scary. Who knows they're as big as a school bus, we have to have the local authority, the FBI, Department of Justice, we can all we can have control, we don't need the FAA. Your drones are done. That's what this is about. And it's a perfect time to do it. It's fun. You've got all kinds of stuff going on. Let's slip
Starting point is 00:15:32 this one in. That's it. That's what this is all about. Nothing else. I like the mothership angle, though. I think that's pretty good. I can't argue with anything you said. Yeah, because there is no argument. It's there. It's why are all these guys out there? And the Pentagon's like, no, no, no, these are no, it's nothing. Throw a little bit of mystery in there with the mothership. This is about getting rid of your drone. That's it. You're done. It's over with. And we're
Starting point is 00:16:05 gonna see so many more of these reports. Oh drone here, drone there. You, you, by the way, you are not allowed to shoot at a drone if it flies over your house. We've learned this now. Some poor sap in Florida shot at a drone. He hit it and then he went to jail for shooting at the drone. So there should be no reason if a drone's over your house, you can't shoot it down. I agree. I think, well, it does vary by state. I think in Texas you'd be able to do it. Um, let me see, did I have anything else?
Starting point is 00:16:36 Uh, I think that any drones over flying around Texas mysteriously. No. So I think that's, oh, we can do, uh, just to wrap it up, I'll do a Deutsche Welle report about the mysterious drone. See how Europe views us. Dozens of drones, larger than those typically used by hobbyists, have been spotted across New Jersey in recent weeks. This guy is good. I like his voice over at the Deutsche Welle. They've flown near sensitive sites like a military research facility and over one of President-elect Donald Trump's golf courses. And ever since the FBI asked the public for help last week, residents have reported seeing drones in other areas as well. Notice the FBI asked that we have
Starting point is 00:17:18 to ask them for help because we're not allowed to do anything. We need to have this authority. Please give it to us, Congress. Federal and state officials have stressed that the aircraft pose no known threat to public safety. But on Wednesday, FBI Assistant Director Robert Wheeler faced a grilling when testifying before Congress. You know, sometimes I feel like I'm in the twilight zone up here. Like, months after month, people come before us, they testify, and you don't get a lot of answers. It's concerning, it's frustrating. You're telling me we don't know what the hell these drones are in New Jersey are? Is that correct?
Starting point is 00:17:58 That's right. It's crazy. I mean, that's crazy. That's madness that we don't know what these drones are. We do not attribute that to an individual or a group yet. We're investigating, but I don't have an answer of who's responsible for that, of one or more people that are responsible for those drone flights. But we're actively investigating.
Starting point is 00:18:24 New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy has called the drones very sophisticated and said he's taking the situation deadly seriously. And a state senator is calling for a limited state of emergency over the sightings. So this bill was introduced by... Wait, how sophisticated could they be if you haven't caught one? It's all such nonsense. Well, this reminds me of, now they're not going to disallow commercial drone owners that take photos and do the fireworks displays. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:18:57 All licensed. This reminds me of the early 1900s. Ooh, we go back on this show. When I was a kid. That's how you need to start. The early 1900s when radio was a hobby. And at some point, all the hobbyists, they all had their own radios and everyone was transmitting all over the place. It was nuts. And they had to start licensing it because it was getting a little out of control. Is that when we got War of the Worlds? No, that was in the 30s.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Oh, okay. I'm talking about 1920, 1918, when real radio hobbyists, radio hobbyists were like computer hobbyists in the early days, and it was becoming a problem because people were stepping all over each other. The rationale was, well, they're frequencies. There's not that many frequencies. They're stepping each other. We got to license it.
Starting point is 00:19:50 National security. And so it was the same thing. They found out, you know, the argument was weak, but at the same time it was necessary for licensing purposes. You get the money for the licenses. You get the, the out of control, this goes away. You don't have the craziness going on like you would, you're going to end up with if you let drones just go nuts. And so it's the same thing. I don't see any difference. It's just the necessary to start to license this.
Starting point is 00:20:19 If you want to have a, you want to be a drone hobbyist or you want to develop drones or something, you're going to get to have to get a license. It's just like every, everything in this country, you want to be a drone hobbyist or you want to develop drones or something you're gonna get have to get a license it's just like every everything in this country you have to be licensed well you already drive a car or the same thing with automobiles they were driving around banging into each other they had to get licenses I think it goes a bit further and I appreciate the history of that but you already need a license technically to fly a drone they already got through that hurdle. This is about eliminating your ability to even get a drone because no drones from China will be allowed to be sold in the United States. That's where they all come from.
Starting point is 00:20:52 This is getting rid of all the drones. No drones coming from a covered country. Well, you can only guess what those countries are. It's China, obviously. Here's who signed this bill. It's Rick Scott from Florida. He's the sponsor. He's the original sponsor, co-sponsors. Warner of Virginia, Rubio, Florida, Blumenthal, Connecticut. This is bipartisan.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And these are all military people. Blackburn, Tennessee, Christopher Murphy, Connecticut, Josh Hawley, and Mitt Romney. This is obvious. I don't see the difference between my analogy and any of this because in fact you can't just go necessarily buy a ham radio rig and you can't buy a car from China. Well, you can't buy a drone from China, you can't buy a BY from China. Well, no. You can't buy a drone from China. You can't buy a BYD electric here. But you could, all these drones are from China. They are at the moment, but
Starting point is 00:21:52 but, yeah, they're going to put a stop to that the same way they put a stop. You can't buy cars from China. I mean, they don't want, China just floods the market with stuff. We just can't have that. That's a good point though. Your ham radio, that won't be long until you can't get ham radios have that. That's a good point though. Your ham radio, that won't be long until you can't get ham radios from China. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Get your Bao Feng's now everybody. That's a good point. You get nice cheap, same similar, almost as cheap from Vietnam. Anyway. Yes, I agree. The Bao Feng's 35 bucks, I mean come on. You get two now, you get two for 49.
Starting point is 00:22:24 I have three of them. But you get two in a pack for 49 bucks now. mean, come on. You get two now. You get two for 49. I have three of them. But you get two in a pack for 49 bucks now. It's even better. I know, you get two in a pack. Anyway, I appreciate it guys. Thanks for putting the mothership bid in there so that we knew something was up. Now, we might as well just go right on through
Starting point is 00:22:41 to the CEO killer, because I think there's something up here as well. The healthcare assassin is one of the terms they're trying to push. Here's a pretty good backgrounder from CBS on the- The healthcare hitman, sorry. Healthcare hitman, yes. Here's a pretty good background of the most recent updates. For the first time, the NYPD says forensic evidence places the suspect at the location where UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was shot and killed. We were able
Starting point is 00:23:11 to match that gun to the three shell casings that we found in midtown at the scene of the homicide. So already, I don't believe that's true. We're also... I don't either. That's that's no, I mean, and first of all... Because of the nature of the gun, it's not a rifled barrel or anything. It's a ghost gun, that's all you need to know. We're also able in our crime lab to match the person of interest's fingerprints with fingerprints that we found on both the water bottle and the Kind bar near the scene of the homicide. He ate a candy bar.
Starting point is 00:23:50 We got him. NYPD investigators say they collected that water bottle and wrapper. What was the reason for plugging the Kind brand? Well, it shows that he was a healthy young man. He was healthy. He's eating healthy. Scene of the homicide. NYPD investigators say they collected that water bottle and wrapper near a Starbucks
Starting point is 00:24:07 where the suspect was seen on surveillance video about a half hour before Thompson was murdered. The NYPD also says they found a cell phone in an alley near the hotel with a fingerprint that matches as well. Richard Esposito is a former NYPD deputy commissioner and CBS News contributor. Prosecutors are confident right now they have a solid case, but what they're doing is they're buttressing what they already have with further evidence. They'll try and find a 3D printer. If they can show a ping to the cell phone and a picture of him using a cell phone that matched time matched, they're going to present that.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Law enforcement sources tell CBS News Mangione had a spiral notebook with him when he was arrested where he wrote about considering using a gun over a bomb to carry out an attack because it was targeted precise and doesn't risk innocence. I don't know that they have a confession, but I think they have enough facts, enough of a pattern of facts at this point to say this shows he was going to do it we don't know he may very well admit to police in custody that he did it. Mangione's attorney said he will plead not guilty and is fighting his extradition to New York. Okay a couple of things first let's deal with the obvious one which I'm
Starting point is 00:25:23 sure will be a sidetrack of this Psyop and that's the ghost gun. let's deal with the obvious one which I'm sure will be a side track of this Psy-op And that's the ghost gun. Let's follow up on the weapon that was found the idea that it was a ghost gun Potentially manufactured in a 3d printer Tell us just a challenge that poses to law enforcement because those are so difficult to trace. You can't trace it, there's no shooting number. You order parts and you put together with 3d printers So in terms of investigation if it went on we would never be able to track that firearm Because it have a serial number what we will do now is we'll we need to track it you have it It's a lab detectives will take it to the lab
Starting point is 00:25:57 And we'll take a gun and match up to the blister exact the scene and we'll see we'll see that's a comparison So that will be done as part of the post-arrest investigation. All right so this idea of a ghost gun with a suppressor is highly dubious but we all love the ghost gun thing so there'll be there'll be a whole track talking about the ghost gun but what's really happened is what i identified immediately on sunday show is this guy has been elevated to hero status and that's what this is about. This Ivy League hottie named Luigi is the
Starting point is 00:26:33 Robin Hood that we never knew that we needed. I listened to Luigi's manifesto this morning three times. This by the way is CNN. And I cried. Honestly it's beautiful and I agree with him. At least he left a very powerful message and he highlighted how terrible the health care system is in America. I think he'll go down as a hero in history. He had been a name suspect for less than 48 hours and yet within a fraction of that time many in the world of social media had already made up their minds about Luigi Mangione. I'm just eating it up because this is like regular everyday person becoming our hero, our vigilante.
Starting point is 00:27:13 These types of comments angering law enforcement and public officials. I don't care your views about healthcare companies because I don't think they're grave right now either. But you do not celebrate the assassination of another human being who is just doing his job." But interest in Mangione just continues to grow. On X, before his arrest announcement, he had just 64 followers, now more than 320,000 and counting. His initial 827 followers on Instagram grew exponentially Monday as we watched.
Starting point is 00:27:47 By 3 o'clock more than 32,000. An hour later, 53,000. By 5 o'clock Monday, more than 71,000 followers before that account was suspended. Many of the comments calling for his freedom and calling him a hero. Okay, so this is important to take note of because it's being egged on. The media keeps doing the story over and over again. He's a hero. This is this guy, he's uncovered. It's the season of reveal.
Starting point is 00:28:19 He's showing and people are in agreement left, right, doesn't matter. Democrat, Republican, every voted for Kamala, for Trump everybody agrees this guy was he's a hero We're even gonna do stuff like you know hack into signs Seattle overnight so look at the message here that our photographer found near Dexter Avenue in the northbound lanes of the highway there reads one Less CEO many more to go. We don't know who's responsible for this Which agency operates the sign, whether it's Roch.S. or a private company, and how this could have happened. So we're certainly going to let you know what we find out when we get some answers. It appears that
Starting point is 00:28:53 message was up for at least an hour overnight. So that's one of those road signs. Beautiful. One less CEO, many more to go. Back to CBS. The outrage, the outrage about the medical health care system is top of mind. In tonight's Eye on America we look into the outpouring of anger not directed at the shooter but at the health insurance industry. Here's CBS's Mark Strassman. It's very hard for me to be empathetic. Free-floating outrage fuels this American moment. American moment. The rules want to kill you for money. A targeted killing in midtown Manhattan. A hooded gunman.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And thousands of online posts like, he's a hero, overwhelmingly side with a shooter. This guy's bringing the country together. In New York City, a hooded shooter lookalike contest brought cheap laughs. When shooting suspect Luigi Mangione was arrested in Pennsylvania, online hot takes doubled down. Which one of you McDonald's employees ratted that guy out? The web's new hot sellers, Free Luigi Shirts, Deny, Defend, Depose, Coffee Mugs, Delivery Before Christmas.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Seemingly forgotten, Brian Thompson, United Healthcare's CEO, murdered in cold blood. The 50-year-old husband and father of two sons was buried on Monday. But online voices see him only as the face of a half-trillion dollar health conglomerate, in their eyes the obstacle to affordable healthcare. To many of these critics, it's a business model built on refusing to pay for services. In 2023, UnitedHealthcare denied roughly 33% of all claims, the highest rate in the industry. The overall industry rate, 19%. Okay, these stories are not by accident.
Starting point is 00:30:40 They are trying to mess in something very important. I don't even know if this is the same guy who pulled the trigger He doesn't look the same. I love the he left He left comments on Goodreads about the Unabomber manifesto. He even has the whole Ted Kaczynski look except for the sunglasses He's got the mask over the nose. He's got the hoodie. I mean everything is perfectly orchestrated so that, sorry for saying it, dipshits like Taylor Lorenz will go on Piers Morgan and she is so, because she's a dipshit.
Starting point is 00:31:17 She's so caught up in what her fans love about her that she can't even show any empathy because that's what this is intended to do. It's intended to vilify the healthcare, justifiably vilify the healthcare industry, which we have talked about since this show began, since Obamacare in 2008 when this conversation was raging as well. We were talking about how they were screwing everybody, goes back to vaccines, give people medication before they get sick.
Starting point is 00:31:51 This has been a conversation for a long time. No one talks about it and now all of a sudden the news media is allowed to say he's it. Luigi, Hot Luigi was a hero. Come on, this is an op. Here's Taylor. I do believe in the sanctity of life and I think that's why I felt along with so many Hot Luigi was a hero. Come on, this isn't up. Here's Taylor. I do believe in the sanctity of life and I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately. Because it feels like… Joy?
Starting point is 00:32:15 Seriously? Joy in a man's execution? Maybe not joy, but certainly not empathy. Because again, this is a man responsible for… We're watching the footage. How can this make you joyful? This guy guy's a husband he's a father and he's being gunned down in the middle of Manhattan why is that making you joyful? Americans that be murdered so are tens so are the tens of thousands of Americans innocent
Starting point is 00:32:37 Americans who died because greedy health insurance executives like this one push a policies of denying care to the most vulnerable people and the many millions of Americans that have watched people that I care about suffer and in some cases die because of lack of health. So should they all be killed then? Should they all be killed these health care executives? Would that make you even more joyful? No, that would not. Why not? Why are you laughing? Because it would. You seem to find the whole thing hilarious. I find your question funny.
Starting point is 00:33:13 A bloke's been murdered in the street. I don't find it funny at all. I don't find it funny that tens of thousands of Americans die every year and because they are denied life-saving health care from people like the CEO. Now, I want to fix this system. You're right, we shouldn't be going around shooting each other with vigilante justice. No. I think that it is a good thing that this murder has led to America, or really the media elites and politicians in this country, paying attention to this issue
Starting point is 00:33:40 for the first time. You mentioned you couldn't understand why somebody would feel this reaction when they watch a CEO die. It's because you have not dealt, it sounds like, with the American healthcare system in the way that millions of other Americans have. I've dealt with the healthcare system in various ways in America. I don't think it's perfect by any means, but the idea that I would view it as something — Have you been denied life-saving treatment?
Starting point is 00:34:04 No, the idea that I would view it as something joyful that a man has been, who's just a healthcare executive, has been executed in the street I find completely bizarre. Okay so Pierce is playing his role perfectly and Taylor... Oh yeah, he's always the... Plays it perfectly. I'm aghast. So, and I will posit that if... Don't say that. And I will posit that if...
Starting point is 00:34:25 Don't say that. I have to because if Twitter was still run by Dorsey and they had that trust and safety team and all that, I don't think this might not have been allowed to post these things about the CEO killer. That has changed completely with Musk and where it's really rampant is on blue sky But notice I said blue sky to make sure that everyone understands what I'm talking about So it is new Blue I joined by the way. Oh good. You can follow me at John C. Dvorak. So
Starting point is 00:35:02 back in 2012 episode See Dvorak. So back in 2012, episode 445, I didn't pull the clip. You can go and listen to it. I went, I think I was on a, it might have been a Hot Pockets tour, but I was invited in DC to go view a movie based upon a book called Deadly Spin by a guy named Wendell Potter. I don't know if you remember this. No. But Wendell Potter used to work at Cigna. He was the, I think he ran the PR department
Starting point is 00:35:32 for Cigna Healthcare Insurance. And he retired, you know, he left, oh, he left with big, oh, I'm leaving this horrible industry. People are lying. It's no good. And he made a movie and I'd met him. I had, I think I had a lunch with him in DC. And he said, oh, come to my movie. And we went to the movie and I'm looking at this movie. I'm like, wait a minute, what is going on here? Then right after the movie, he gets up
Starting point is 00:36:00 and there's a panel with Elizabeth Holmes. Remember, not Holmes Had the woman the representative from DC who was not allowed to vote that horrible woman Norton. Thank you Norton and it was all about Obamacare That's what it was about. The whole thing was about we need Socialized medicine the government has to pay for it, we have to take it away from the insurance companies, it all has to be socialized medicine. And I totally got snookered into going to that stupid movie and halfway through I was
Starting point is 00:36:35 like, hold on a second, this is the actual propaganda, the propaganda is the Affordable Care Act. Well lo and behold, amongst all of this, who comes back and spends 10 minutes with Katie Turr? With another guy, both have new books out, coincidence, once again, Wendell Potter. Joining us now, President of the Center for Health and Democracy and former health insurance executive Wendell Potter. He's also the author of Deadly Spin and senior national correspondent for HuffPost and author of The Ten Year War Obamacare and the Unfinished Crusade for universal coverage Jonathan Cohn.
Starting point is 00:37:13 You know everybody has a story... Wait, wait, stop. Did she say HuffPo? Yes she did. HuffPo. It's almost as bad as saying posits. I know it's bad. Jonathan Cohn. You know everybody's bad. Bridge, Jonathan Cullen. You know, everybody has a story about dealing with insurance companies and not many of those stories Wendell, or happy stories. The perception is that these companies are not in it to care for people. It's not for the service. It's to squeeze as much money as they possibly can out of individuals and when push comes
Starting point is 00:37:46 to shove, when those individuals need that money back, to delay, delay, delay in order for the person to give up or to get more money out of them. Is that an incorrect perception of how the industry works? No, it's not at all. It is the correct perception, it's the reality. And it's notable that this murder, this corporate assassination took place in Manhattan on the day that UnitedHealth was holding its investor day.
Starting point is 00:38:20 This assailant had to know that that was significant because there were reasons why we have these delays, why we have this challenge that so many people with health insurance have in getting the care that they need is because of the slavish devotion of these companies to Wall Street. They have to meet Wall Street's profit expectations every three months and to show them that they're managing expenses. And that means there's greater and greater use of prior authorization, higher out-of-pocket costs before their coverage kicks in, inadequate provider networks.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Delays and denials are what people encounter these days increasingly. Wendell Potter, I'm going to read from his Wikipedia. He has been called the Daniel Ellsberg of corporate America by Michael Moore and a straight shooter by Bill Moyers. Potter is the first and only health insurance insider to have publicly criticized the industry's stance on the Obama health care reforms. A supporter of the Affordable Care Act,
Starting point is 00:39:19 Potter correctly predicted in 2010, the final version of the law would increase health insurance industry profits and argued they would find a way to game the system. He became a vocal advocate for Medicare for all in 2018, saying in September 2019 that it's time to move to a program that makes a lot more sense economically as well as morally. Now what's interesting about Mr. Potter here and his Center for Health and Democracy, if you go to the website and
Starting point is 00:39:50 you go to the donate page, what do you think it is when you want to donate to the Center for Health and Democracy? I don't know. Act blue. Act blue. Exactly. It's act blue. This guy is no independent source.
Starting point is 00:40:06 And here's the pitch. Katie Chur is going to set it up for us because this is the one thing Trump has not had an answer for in any of the questions about what to do with healthcare and the affordable healthcare. Here comes the push. Again, a really interesting moment. There is so much distrust of institutions, of industry. Part of the reason why Donald Trump got elected and he's able to put the various people he's trying to put into these cabinet positions because people don't believe government works.
Starting point is 00:40:35 They don't like corporations. There is a seething anger and they thought that Donald Trump was the person who best fight it. I mean, you can argue whether that is actually accurate, that Donald Trump will deliver on that. But there is an expectation that he's going to. And given that Wendell, do you see this as an inflection point, as a different leverage on the industry, a pressure on the industry than there might have been in the past? I do. In fact, when this happened, I was in Washington actually meeting with Republican members of
Starting point is 00:41:05 Congress. What are the chances? What a coincidence, Wendell. To see where there is common ground with Democrats on moving forward with reform. And there really is. This is the first time I've ever seen this kind of bipartisan interest in reform. Now, it's not going to be easy, to Jonathan's point, because these companies spend enormous amounts of money to influence how politicians think and how they vote.
Starting point is 00:41:29 But I'm seeing a change, and to the point earlier that you made, Katie, about doctors being really fed up with health insurance companies. They are as well, too. They are having a hard time advocating for their patients, getting paid as they need to be. They're dealing with prior authorization requirements more than they ever have before their patients are having to face high out of pocket costs before their coverage kicks in. They too are fed up.
Starting point is 00:41:54 So I'm not saying that they killed this guy to kickstart this, but never let a good crisis go to waste. These guys were ready for it. They've been ready for a long time and I think the next The next shoe to drop will probably be accusing United Health Care of Medicare fraud Which I'm pretty sure that they're in fact, I have a boots on the ground from one of our producers, which is pretty damning He's in I think Indiana so Opt, they're owned by United Health Care. They provide health care, state Medicare and Medicaid services to the state of Indiana. He says, one of my family members from my wife's side works as a contractor for Optum.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Optum team contains a lot of Indians and Pakistanis who don't follow any rules or laws in good faith. I don't know if that makes them Brahmins or not. I don't follow any rules or laws in good faith. I don't know if that makes them Brahmins or not. I don't know. Optum placed them to sit with state employees with no supervision. Ever since COVID, they're all working from home. No one knows where they are. My relatives sometimes work from our home. Often others work from completely different countries. None from state nor Optum does a sanity check on these employees or contractors nor check the quality of their work. They all work on their own schedules,
Starting point is 00:43:09 cover each other's ass while they're doing their second or third jobs. My relative mostly sleeps through the work day while billing eight hours each day for just sleeping. Optum pays them less than market prices so they overstate the project hours to bill overtime at 1.5 times regular pay. My relative boasts that he bills 10 times the actual time he spends on a task and also bills overtime almost every month. The state's IT manager is a dumbhead who doesn't know what's going on and doesn't care how much Optimus looting from the taxpayer's purse. With a lack of supervision and practically easy money, many of the employees and contractors
Starting point is 00:43:47 are addicted to drugs, online gambling, alcohol. One of the employees was arrested on charges of child pornography while he was already on parole for using drugs. This is all coming to light now. And I think that they're really setting it up for some kind of Medicare for all. We have to get all of this out.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Elizabeth Warren is already working on a bill to break up pharmacy benefit managers. It's a mess. And they're taking advantage of this to get all the anger out there, and all the representatives will all get on board. I think it's a great moment in media. It's a great media moment that they're taking advantage of here. It's quite fascinating to watch. Well, it's definitely fascinating to watch because it's got op written all over it.
Starting point is 00:44:39 It's got all kinds of crazy stuff going on. I think you're right about Medicare for all. They want to, they're irked at it. It hasn't gone through already. Yeah. Now I have a, I had a doctor, I don't have him anymore because he had to close his practice. They was part of a larger group.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And they closed their practice because of the problems getting these insurance companies to pay out. And they had full-time people hounding him constantly to pay benefits out and get, and for them to get paid. It's a nightmare. And so he said, and he said early on, and people talked about this, I think back in 2016 about how doctors are going to have to shut down because of this, you know, they're just going to quit. I remember this. Yes, I remember. We were talking about this.
Starting point is 00:45:23 He's one of the guys who quit. Yes, I remember. We were talking about this. It was a big deal. Well, he's one of the guys who quit. And which was annoying to me because now I have the, you know, doctors that are just, you know, check, I call them check box doctors. They, you know, they, did you get, you have a shingle shot? Did you want one? No. Okay. You get, did you get tetanus? You're overdue for tetanus. Now I don't want one. Does your daddy have guns in the house? Check. Well, they haven't gotten to that, but they have all these check boxes. You can just hear them in their brain clicking off the check marks and then they're done with you. And it just sucks.
Starting point is 00:45:55 But the funny thing is he did say something before he completely shuttered the business and all the doctors that were working there scattered to here and there. He said, he concluded that this was leading to socialized medicine, and the whole trend was, which was, you know, Obamacare was trying to be, and this would also be Medicare for all. He concluded at the very end, he says, you know, that's not going to fix it. It's something else. He says, and I, he said, no, he says, this is, it looks like a good idea.
Starting point is 00:46:30 It looks like the reason this is all collapsing is because of these insurance companies. No, he says, that's not the problem. The problem is deeper rooted as Medicare for all is not. He made a big point of this Medicare for all socialized business is not going to change anything. And I had, I thought about this for years and I'm still thinking about it. And it had, and I think it's because of the drug companies. I think it's big pharma.
Starting point is 00:46:54 They're the ones who jack up the prices of all these drugs. They're the ones who change, you know, drug goes generic. They buy the generic manufacturer. You know, when. You know when the drug should be not cost ten cents a pill they buy the generic guys at this the same price as the old drug. And they're the ones that are manipulating the insurance companies. It's all Big Pharma's price and this is all has to do with the advertising on TV. I base it on that. Oh yeah you notice that no one is
Starting point is 00:47:24 saying Big Pharma they're only talking about insurance and the doctors. I based it on that. Oh yeah, you notice that no one is saying Big Pharma. They're only talking about insurance and the doctors. I think Big Pharma in a perfect world, they want Amazon to have, because they're fighting Mark Cuban, he's trying, but they want Amazon to be the distribution through the drones. They want AI doctors, no real doctors.
Starting point is 00:47:43 No, just check in through your online portal and the AI will tell you what you have and they send it off. They want to cut out everybody else. I think you're right. And if anyone thinks socialized medicine is great, well, I lived in the Netherlands and I lived in the United Kingdom. It was not great. If you had money, then you could go right around to the side door, same place you can get the scan, no one in there, people twiddling their thumbs. Then if you were on the NHS, the National Healthcare System, then you had to wait a minimum of six months. And this was in 2005. So it's only gotten worse. And what is so what is genius here is how social media is being I believe being manipulated
Starting point is 00:48:28 And it's it's not censorship or anything like that. Did you just let people go, you know No, you I think manipulations is the wrong word. It's natural. Yeah. Thank you Have you ever heard of Leonard Kleinrock from your old tech days? Yeah, thank you. Have you ever heard of Leonard Kleinrock from your old tech days? Not, no, not, well, I mean, I know. Well, let me, so I have a short clip and I have a note from one of our producers who says,
Starting point is 00:48:53 I work as a technology and computer science teacher and research and I've done this for nearly 20 years. And what caught my ear on the No Agenda Show is the intermittent chats about technology and the damage it's doing to people. I agree wholeheartedly and I teach on this. Recently, there's been a number of mentions of internet phenomena such as overuse of social media, triggering mental and physical outbursts that range from delirious to body changing.
Starting point is 00:49:19 There are some references to Jonathan Haight's work and of course, that's the coddling of the American mind and the long-standing deliberate division of groups via social engineering and digital form. This brainwashing is global and glued to one's hand. I would like to reference that this has been known since 1969 to 1975 when ARPANET was first testing the connections between multiple nodes on networks and their behaviors, especially those of much larger networks beyond UCLA and Berkeley. The UK and Finland became direct benefactors of this enterprise
Starting point is 00:49:51 and it pulled in many more universities. In the clip attached, Leonard Kleinrock outlines the law of large numbers where, quote, the larger the network is is the far more efficient it becomes. Here's the clip. This was a simplified but exact model at the time. Now we have other aspects of it but it basically the underlying principles of the network and one of the things we found surprisingly was that the larger the network is the far more efficient it becomes. Like a gambling casino that certainly makes money if you have millions of gamblers at the slot machines. Very much so.
Starting point is 00:50:30 You've articulated what we call the law of large numbers. The law of large numbers says that a large population of unpredictable players or messages collectively behaves in a very predictable fashion, a fashion we can write down exactly and we therefore we can predict the performance of a network when it's large. I.e. the internet or social networks adhere to the law of large numbers. I believe this in real life I can I should just as an anecdote I people who give public speeches or performances I including, I should just as an anecdote, people who give public speeches or performances, I, including myself, the difference between talking to a small audience of eight people and an
Starting point is 00:51:13 audience of 2000 people is profound. The large audiences are the best. Yes. They, they react differently. It's like a different animal and you can see the same thing. And then, and we talk about the efficiency of the large networks. We're with the large network that we're now dealing with and we're doing the show over one of them. Yep. Uh, the efficiency has gone through the roof. We all, we've got double gigabyte lines, big gigabit lines coming in to both of our places.
Starting point is 00:51:47 The quality has much improved over the years. It should go, with the size you think it would deteriorate, but it hasn't. It's actually gotten better. We have less dropouts in the early days compared to the early days, and we have higher speeds. Yes, it's apparent that this is true. And it also falls in line with the popularity of TikTok. It's being a so huge, big operation
Starting point is 00:52:16 with 180 million users. It's predictable. That's what I like. And our professor goes on to finish his note with looking at Blue Sky, I think the newest internet control mechanism is here. And we were talking about Kony 2012 psychological experiments. That was early days with the big network.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Let's remember the ice bucket challenge. You remember that one? Yeah. And I remember fools who propagated it. Yes, but it's predictable. So when you spur this on, this, oh, he's a hero, and it's being spurred on, and there's all kinds of actors at play. So we should just sit back and enjoy the show
Starting point is 00:52:57 because it's unavoidable. It's inevitable. And it's incredibly entertaining. It is great for the show. I mean, we might have to do eight more years. It's going to get so much fun. Eight more years. I'm telling you. Eight more years.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Yes. Hey, Adam and I, what happened this week? That's why I don't know what Australia is doing. I mean Australia, they're making the wrong moves. You don't want to ban people from getting on social networks. You want them all on. You want them tapped in the minute there, baby. Here's your vaccine.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Here's your smartphone, kid. To Charles Pellegrin, he's got business today. He's staying in Australia actually. The government wants to force tech companies to pay for the news articles shared on their platform, Michel. This is so good. It's so predictable what's going to happen. It's like we need the inputs.
Starting point is 00:53:56 This is not a punitive measure. That's right. The Labour government of Anthony Albanese unveiled a new scheme this Thursday which threatens the operators of social media platforms with a tax unless they strike deals with Australian news publishers to use their articles. Traditional media outlets around the world are struggling to generate revenue as advertising income is being diverted to tech companies. Oh, that's going to help.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Hold on a second. We've already gone decades ago. Yes. It happened here. This idea. And it basically put people out of business because of this stupidity. Oh, well, let's cut them off.
Starting point is 00:54:40 You can't do that. It's already been proven, but these guys are going to do it again. They're going to reinvent the bad wheel. They're going to reinvent the bad wheel. They're going to reinvent the flat tire. They're stupid. They think that they need to do this to have control, but you don't need it. You just need a couple of number nicks to get onto Twitter and you're good to go. In Australia, it's estimated that a thousand jobs were lost in the news industry this year.
Starting point is 00:55:04 These outlets believe they should be compensated for driving traffic to their platforms with It's estimated that a thousand jobs were lost in the news industry this year these outlets They should be compensated for driving traffic to their platforms with their articles One study by the University of Canberra showed that in 2024 49% of Australians use social media to access news a 4% increase compared to the previous year and when looking at Gen Z Australians specifically 60% of them use social media to get their news. Of course they do. I'm 17% from last year. Communications Minister Michelle Rowland spoke to media defending the scheme.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Well today's announcement is about backing Australian journalism and supporting the health of our democracy. The news bargaining incentive is critical to ensuring that digital platforms contribute to the sustainability of journalism in Australia. No one cares. Nobody cares. It's great. A number of organizations have figured it out and they know how it works. And you just, I think the state department's done pretty good. You know, they have their, uh, well, it was 7,000, uh, at the global engagement center, techno experts. Yeah. You put 7,000 people online with a message that they have to propagate. This is the way to do it.
Starting point is 00:56:19 It's good to go. Exactly. And there's a lot of employment there by the way. You can't, you can't turn your nose up at that. This is your hiring people. Okay, so... Seven thousand people to be online shitposting. Let's go to the... We have one more psyop.
Starting point is 00:56:37 This one's a doozy. I love this. We start with our spook Richard Engel, who pops up in Syria and just decides to rummage around inside Assad's palace because why not? I mean it seems to be some kind of op to start with so why not send your guys in? So you climb in through the window now. I'm in the window! I will say this is the first time I've entered a presidential palace through the window. Yes. Ah. A bedroom. A bedroom. I can't stop thinking that I've done this before. I was in Gaddafi's bedroom. I went into Saddam Hussein's
Starting point is 00:57:20 palaces. His bedroom. What a coincidence. Well, oh yeah I wait this here's the better NBC report the former Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad lived in a palace high above now it's under control of the rebels who overthrew rebels today they gave us an exclusive tour inside can understand why he wouldn't want to leave this Assad and his wife seemed to have modern tastes. You are first greeted by the grand atrium, accented by a classic wood paneled library. This is better than MTV Cribs.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Upstairs was for the family only, the apartment where the rebels say Assad lived. You could tell this was really the inner sanctum because everywhere here there are thick bulletproof doors. are extremely extremely heavy solid metal electric keypads. I mean what is the point of this? This is so crazy. This could have been sealed off but in the end it didn't do him any good. Did you see the tunnels and did you see the Ferraris and the Gullwing Mercedes? Oh my.
Starting point is 00:58:26 All the security was to protect his bedroom, ransacked after he fled. There's something curious. Whenever you go to someone's house, people always want to see their bathrooms, just get a sense of how they lived. Well, what? We always want, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:58:40 When I come to your house, I'd love to see your bathroom. I want to see- You see how I live? I want to see how I live. Wait, they go to somebody's bathroom to see how they live? What, they have the pot all day? I want to make sure that you keep the lid down, baby. This was Assad's private bathroom in here.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Oh, wow. With a jacuzzi tub. Can't imagine he'll be living this well in exile in Russia. I don't know. Apparently he took $126 billion of gold and cash. Syria is broke. Cash flow didn't seem to be a problem for the man at the top. His personal barber chair. Oh no. Him here. All right. So we have the...
Starting point is 00:59:26 I like a personal barber chair. There you go. Yeah. I mean, there's one in the White House. I'm sure there's one in the Kremlin, but oh, Assad. And by the way, that guy had a dumb haircut. I mean, he should get his money back for that barber chair. But if that wasn't enough, your girl pops up.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Clarissa Ward. Of course. And what are the chances? But did they smooch? No, she is there and frees a Syrian prisoner who's been in jail for months. It just happened right there. Oh yes, this is a good one. I can't tell though, it might just be a blanket.
Starting point is 00:59:52 But it's the only cell that's locked. Is he going to shoot it? The guard makes us turn the camera off while he shoots the lock off the cell door. Oh, what? What? What? What? What?
Starting point is 01:00:00 What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? It might just be a blanket. Shoot the lock! But it's the only cell that's locked. Is he gonna shoot it? The guard makes us turn the camera off while he shoots the lock off the cell door. Why would the guard make you turn the camera off for him to shoot the lock? What sense does that make?
Starting point is 01:00:15 I heard that too and I thought to myself the same thing. Why? Why? Is the bullet gonna hit the camera? Because it was already unlocked. This is a stupid spy game. The guard makes us turn the camera off while he shoots the lock off the cell door. We go in to get a closer look. It's still not clear if there is something under the blanket.
Starting point is 01:00:42 that there is something under the blanket. Oh, it moved. Is there someone there? And she's, so she's like walking up to this blanket and like, is there someone there? Is there someone there? I can't tell. Is someone there? Or is it just a blanket?
Starting point is 01:01:03 Hello? Hello? Hello? Here we go. We got a guy. Oh no! I'm a civilian he says. I'm a civilian. It's okay. It's okay. I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian.
Starting point is 01:01:11 I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian.
Starting point is 01:01:19 I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian. I'm a civilian. We got a guy. Oh no. I'm a civilian, he says. I'm a civilian. Now she's gripping his hand.
Starting point is 01:01:36 He tells the fighter he's from the city of Homs and has been in the cell for three months. Okay, you're okay. You're okay. You're okay. You're okay. She speaks 18 languages, but she has to say you're okay. You're okay. You're okay. You're okay. You're okay. She speaks 18 languages, but she has to say you're okay to him.
Starting point is 01:01:49 The guy doesn't speak English. Clutches my arm tightly with both hands. Does anyone have any water? Water. Anyway, then the guy drinks some water and she's a hero. This is amazing. This guy was under the evil dictators rule Then she for she liberated him is fantastic. I mean, it's just so good so good Really? You know these
Starting point is 01:02:17 networks and these stories and this these presentations is it's Baffling this this is why? Hot Luigi said it's insulting to the American intelligence because it really is. All of these stories are insulting. We're not stupid, but let's listen to Representative Massey, who has something to say about this. Let's talk about the timing of this.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Remember Tulsi Gabbard was in Congress and she and I collaborated on a lot of these efforts to stop our meddling, the US meddling in Syria. And now she's been named as the head of DNI. Well, I think that was the signal to the deep state to go in for the kill and get this over with because Trump and some of his nominees like Tulsi Gabbard are signaling that we are not going to carry on the policies of Obama and the deep state. It's clear as day to me, and whether it was led by the United States or whether we just
Starting point is 01:03:20 encouraged it, definitely the timing is not a mistake. When you find a turtle on a fence post, it didn't get there by accident. So for instance, some of the stronger powers that be, like Israel, they used their military forces to bomb the dozens of jets and helicopters in Syria. Basically, what these terrorists couldn't do, other people in the Middle East hurry up and did here in this last week to make sure that Assad didn't have the typical resources that a government would have to respond to these threats. So, the deep state, let's just call it the State Department, because that's who's running
Starting point is 01:04:02 these shows along with their advanced team, the CIA. They're doing this for the same reason they've been doing this stuff forever. And I got a short clip of Jeffrey Sachs. He's kind of a libtard type dude, but he does have some of his history down, I think, correctly. He explains what this is really all about from the State Department and quote unquote deep states perspective. The hard part that we don't really discuss in America and that is not understood in America is that our foreign policy is deeply entrained at the scale of decades. So what one observes is not because Obama came in or Trump came in or Biden came in.
Starting point is 01:04:46 We have a deep state. The CIA is the main continuation agency of that deep state, and it carries a basic foreign policy. The foreign policy of the United States since 1945 was to destroy the Soviet Union and then after 1991, to try to do the same with Russia, and if not destroy it, to fundamentally weaken it. In the case of the Middle East, the list that General Wesley Clark provided there is a list that Israel, and I should be more specific, that Netanyahu and his US backers, people like Wolfowitz, Douglas Fythe, and a number
Starting point is 01:05:35 of others, Richard Pearl, set out already in the 1990s and said, our job is to overthrow all of those governments. And we've been at that for more than 20 years. This is continuity. This is not Democrats and Republicans, Bush versus Obama. It's a little boring, frankly. We get all this excitement. Who's going to win? No, this is not how foreign policy is made. Foreign policy is made in the longer term. So how did this affect Russia? Well, we're always looking for the obvious.
Starting point is 01:06:17 We've been doing it for well over a decade. We're always looking for the oil. We're always looking for the gas. Oh, pipelines. Yes, pipelines. Putin's fury is mounting as Syria's strategic significance potentially slips away, opening a new pathway for European gas supplies that could dramatically reshape energy dynamics in the region. The recent agreements between Qatar and Turkey signal a potential game-changing development in global energy markets, threatening
Starting point is 01:06:49 Russia's traditional energy dominance. According to diplomatic sources, the two nations have committed to establishing a comprehensive energy cooperation framework that could fundamentally alter European energy security. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan emphasized the strategic importance of their partnership, stating that Qatar and Turkey have consistently supported each other through challenging times. Their joint statement, issued during the 10th session of the Qatari-Turkish Supreme Strategic Committee, reveals an ambitious plan to reach a $5 billion trade volume and explore extensive energy collaboration. The proposed gas pipeline represents a significant challenge to Russia's economic interests,
Starting point is 01:07:33 potentially reducing Moscow's leverage over European energy markets. By positioning Turkey as a crucial hub for natural gas supplies from Qatar. The partnership could replace up to 60% of the natural gas previously supplied by Russia to Europe. So this is one, a screw you to Putin, but also to Trump, because we don't want our liquid natural gas to stop being wanted by the European Union. We want to keep shipping that out. And this Qatar-Syria pipeline has been in play for quite a while.
Starting point is 01:08:14 In 2023, the European Commission was looking at this deal, Turkey being the hub. Of course, it has to go through Bulgaria first. And I think we just heard the other day, Bulgaria is next in line for some kind of voting issue. So we'll see if they have to vote over again. And Syria traditionally back to I think 1919 or something has had pipelines going through it originally went to Israel to Haifa. They had an oil pipeline, which then was shipped out off to the UK when they switch from coal to oil and you look at this new interim Prime Minister Mohammed al-Bashir before
Starting point is 01:09:00 joining the administration he worked as the head of precision instruments department at the Syrian gas company. It's a gas guy. So they're planning something that it could still be thwarted and not go through the pipeline. There could be a different pipeline that goes through Lebanon. And then I guess Israel and the US could be shipping that off to Europe. But I don't think there's any coincidence that Erdogan is roiled up in this and probably assisted with this overthrow, which seemed to go pretty easily. Oh, it was nine days.
Starting point is 01:09:40 This was supposed to be the horrible dictator. And this one guy is the same guy who was a first he was with ISIS and then he was with the first he was with Al Qaeda had changed his name went to ISIS. He's some sort of a spook, obviously, because he kept going from operation to operation. The leader, I can't, I don't have his name, but one of our contacts gave us the rundown of all his name changes. And it's like, okay, well, this is fishy to say the least. Now there's a big battle going on in Syria, whether they're going to go towards Sharia law,
Starting point is 01:10:19 and they're going to clamp down, or they're going to go just the other direction. We don't know. You get reports going either way. And it's just the other direction. We don't know you get reports going Either way, and it's just the whole thing's a massive Israelis have moved in to yeah blow up a few things because they didn't like him there took over the so the dude's name was Abu Mohammed Al Julani he was part of Al Qaeda then Isis then the El Nusra front That was rebranded as Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, HTS, which stands for Organization for the Liberation of the Levant. He then rebranded himself to be Mohammed al-Sharia,
Starting point is 01:10:57 was captured with al-Baghdadi, thrown into the same prison, operated by the US. Both were let go. Ha ha ha. Hey, what's he doing here? This whole thing. The whole thing is scamish. Oh man. And then how did Assad even get out, by the way?
Starting point is 01:11:18 Yeah, there's no mention. He was probably helped out. Well, no, he was obviously helped out, but how? I mean, did they charge him out on a bus? Or did they dress him up as a woman? Did you not see the tunnels? Or did they fly him out with a chopper? We don't have any clues about this.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Richard Engel showed us all the tunnels, all the escape tunnels and everything. He showed it all to us. It was all so well known. It is the season of Psi-Op, I'm telling you. That's better. Yeah, than season of reveal. Yes, season of Psi-Op. Exactly right. Season of Psi-Op. And it's like, how do you spot the Psi-Op? Well, first of all, Richard... And you always have to... The real problem, of course, with these PSYOPs is you have to try to figure out in advance of what the end point goal is.
Starting point is 01:12:11 There's some reason to do these things. I mean, I think we can kind of figure out there's Medicare for all involved with the... With the... The healthcare guy. The healthcare guy. Hot Luigi, yeah. Hot Luigi and Medicare for all has got something to do with that. And gas and pipelines is the Syria thing has got something to do with that because there's
Starting point is 01:12:32 no other reason for this happening. No. And also Trump getting in. And so now we have, we also have to have anti-Kennedy forces because they're still freaked out about that, but I don't think they're going to do anything. And then we have the FBI stuff going on. Ray quits. Now the interesting thing that the media keeps forgetting to report, although they'll be
Starting point is 01:12:54 quick to say, well, FBI directors have a 10-year term and they do this so that carries over between administrations and there's no politicization. They forget to mention that Robert, was it, who was the FBI, was it Gates? Mueller. No, no, no, the FBI guy. That was Mueller? No, no, no, the guy who was FBI during Bush, I'm sorry, during Obama. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 01:13:25 You can just look him up. Just go to FBI directors. Well, the 10 year thing is a, is a turns out to be a something of a misnomer there where they're using it. There would just as background, they introduced the 10 year limit, which they violated more than once. One guy from being in so long that he becomes like J. Edgar Hoover and you don't want another J. Edgar Hoover so that's why he had the ten rule. It didn't mean you stayed for ten years. I'm sorry. It means you had to get out in ten years.
Starting point is 01:13:55 You're right. Robert Mueller, he joined September 4th, 2001, coincidence I think not. So that's, what is that, seven days before 9-11. And then he stayed on through into Obama and they had to do a whole special approval process, which of course broke their, their, you know, set in stone law of 10 years and he had to stay on for 12 years. Yeah. Because he knew where all the bodies were buried. Which is the reason you didn't, their 10-year thing was put in place to keep that from happening. Yeah, and then it happened. It wasn't to guarantee he was going to be in for 10 years. Yeah, but then they just went ahead and did. The mainstream media has twisted it to me, oh, they, oh, Ray's quitting
Starting point is 01:14:42 before his 10 years are up. That was the idea. You don't want them in for even the 10 years. Exactly. But so they've twisted that and they make a point of it. And it's just like, wait a minute, you guys are missing the point here. Oh, no, you're not. What am I thinking? Yeah, they're not missing anything. So you got some Ray clips? I do as a matter of fact.
Starting point is 01:15:08 I'm glad you mentioned it. First of all, let's start with Ray. Just the general, I think there's a couple of, I got the Ray anal clips. Joining us now to discuss Ray's resignation. Just so everybody knows, literally the clip is titled Ray anal. Okay. It's... Well, it it means analysis everyone knows that. Joining us now to discuss Ray's resignation and the FBI under his leadership. Wait, wait, wait, stop in the clip. Instead of doing the analysis let's do the analysis after the
Starting point is 01:15:38 generalized clips. Let's play Ray quits this is NPR. FBI director Christopher Ray made it official today saying he intends to resign before President-elect Donald Trump takes office. The announcement coming a week and a half after Trump announced he would nominate loyalist Cash Patel for the FBI post. Loyalist! Vermont Democrat Peter Walsh, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said he finds the choice of Patel worrisome. The big concern I have is his public statements where he wants to use his authority to go
Starting point is 01:16:07 after people who disagree with him, with his political opponents or journalists who wrote what he regards as bad stories. There's no place to use the authority of high law enforcement powers to go after people who disagree. So that's a concern. Ray's decision comes despite having three years left in his term and announcing his intention to step down. Ray said he wanted to quote avoid dragging the Bureau deeper into the fray.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Oh, alright. And notice how they use the word term. Term, yes. It's not a ten year term. It's a term limit. It's a ten year limit. Yeah, it's a term limit, exactly. There's a difference between a limit and a term. It's a term limit. It's a 10-year limit. Yeah, it's a term limit. Exactly. There's a difference between a limit and a term. Correct. Term implies that, oh, he had 10 years. He's got 10. No. No, that's a limit, not a term. He was hired for however long the president wants him in there. So this is NPR twisting the facts and using it as propaganda.
Starting point is 01:17:04 This, by the way... What? What? NPR twisting the facts and using it as propaganda. This, by the way, in that regard, it's actually pathetic. People should not send money to these operations. They should send to the No Agenda Show, No Agenda donations for sure. Anyway, here's if you wanted to continue that, we could actually jump to the same basic clip. But we now switch to NTD to the Ray Quits same story only this is a little addition, little stuff added at the end. Cash Patel is the most qualified
Starting point is 01:17:32 nominee to lead the FBI in the agency's history and is committed to helping ensure that law, order, and justice will be brought back to our country again and soon. Now this paves the way for Cash Patel in his nomination to take up that confirmation vote. Now Ray would have had to step aside either way here if Cash Patel was confirmed by the Senate. Now he was on the hill again today, Cash Patel, saying that he will bring more trust to the FBI. Watch. We look forward to a very smooth transition and I'll be ready to go on day one. The senators have been wonderful and I look forward to earning their trust and confidence
Starting point is 01:18:07 in the advice and consent process and restoring law and order and integrity to the FBI. Now Patel has been on the Hill for the past week and the week before and he's been getting strong support from many Republican senators in that key vote that he'll need during the confirmation process. Senator Josh Hawley said today that there's no doubt in his mind that Patel will be confirmed. Ah, he's greasing the wheels on the Hills. What you do? They gotta visit everybody. Hey, hey, look at this picture. What you got in your mouth over there? Vote for me. So they have the, so we go to the array analysis.
Starting point is 01:18:42 And you end up with the information that is kind of like kept from the main, the mainstream doesn't like to talk about it, but a lot of it, a lot of the reason he quit, besides saw the writing on the wall was because of a report that grassly presented to him. And this was the real key to why he quit because it was, it was a pretty damning report. And he would now we can play those clips, Anil. Joining us now to discuss Ray's resignation and the FBI under his leadership is Paul Kamenart, lead counsel at National Legal and Policy Center.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Paul, thank you so much for joining us. Great to see you again. Now, FBI head Christopher Ray has announced he's resigning. That's despite his term scheduled to end in 2027. Ray said about his decision, quote, in my view, this is the best way to avoid dragging the bureau deeper into the fray. What do you make of Ray's reason for resigning?
Starting point is 01:19:32 Well, he obviously saw the writing on the wall that once a president Trump took office, he was going to be fired. And rightly so. So he's trying to get it ahead of the game and, and, and trying to bow out gracefully, et cetera, but he's leaving a pretty sad legacy and it's about time for him to go. Uh, Senator Grassley the other day sent in a stinging 11 page letter to Ray, just documenting all the problems that he had with the FBI. For example, a weaponizing the FBI, uh, putting FBI, putting conservative Catholics who are pro-life on
Starting point is 01:20:07 some kind of a terrorist watch list because they may protest abortion clinics, going after parents at school board meetings for complaining about critical race theory. And then, you know, he was very instrumental in allowing the Robert Mueller investigation go far, including allowing an FBI lawyer doctor a FISA warrant to get a FISA surveillance warrant against Carter Page. Luckily that FBI lawyer finally was convicted for doctoring this government document and was convicted with felony. But there was hundreds of others at the FBI who were charged with sexual assault and misconduct over 600 in the last 10, 15 years.
Starting point is 01:20:58 And they just resigned quickly. I mean, there's no discipline there. It was just running amok and Christopher Wray can't get out of there soon enough. Yeah, it's too bad that they I mean if we went back on this show We could probably dig it all up. We could do a best of of just of just the FBI Oh, yeah, my favorite one still was the he didn't mention it. I but still one of my faves faves Is if you remember during the Boston bomber? one of my faves is if you remember during the Boston bomber and they went to interview some guy and shot him dead in his house.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Yeah. Yes. Yes. Remember that? Well, he was hiding behind, wasn't he in the speedboat that was on the trailer? No, no, he was in his, no, this guy was in his house and went to interview him. Oh, no, no, you're right. That was a different guy.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Yeah, they went to interview him. Oh, you're right, that was a different guy. Yeah, they went to interview him. And then something happened and he apparently broke free from the interrogation chair and they shot him in the head. Yeah, they just shot the guy and that was the end of it. Oh man, what was that guy's name? Yeah, I can't remember either. That was a decade ago, but it was like that was part of this whole issue. Was that Ray? Was that Ray? I don't think, it wasn't Ray. No, it wasn't, no, but he, but Grassley said this goes back a decade, way before Ray. There's a problem with the FBI is just falling apart because they got sexual problems.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Remember that the other one, the recent one where the, it was, I think it was the FBI that they go into, they commandeer somebody's house, they tape the camera on their front porch, and then they just bust into the place and use it as a headquarters, just without asking the owner, remember that one? Yeah, that was recent, that was a store. I think it was her store or something that was underneath their house. Yeah, they tape, they put a piece of tape
Starting point is 01:22:39 over the camera. Over the camera, yeah. And they just go in and use the place. We're the FBI, ma'am. Shut up. But you do what we tell you to. We're the feds. It's pretty embarrassing. So let's go to the analysis two. A CNN report using Gallup data showed that the FBI reached a century low approval rating this year. That's 41% compared to 50% in 2022.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Do you expect to see this number increase under the next administration? Yeah, I certainly do. We are having Cash Patel as the nominee to take Chris Ray's place as the FBI director. Cash Patel is not going to put up with this nonsense at the FBI. He's got great experience, both in national security levels, at the Defense Department, former prosecutor himself and a defense attorney.
Starting point is 01:23:26 So he's going to straighten out that department and get rid of this bias and this kind of criminalization, over-criminalization and weaponization, I should say, of the FBI. And so I think a lot of the people there are dusting off their resumes right now because they know once Cash Batal gets in there, they're going to be fired or asked to leave or what have you. So I think he will be fair and will shake things up over there and it surely does need shaking up. And if anything we need to remember about the FBI, which we've been tracking for well
Starting point is 01:24:03 over 10 years, it's the six week cycle. Yeah, we've been tracking. The funding cycle. Yes. Oh, well, we need every six weeks. Oh, we need to have something going on from ISIS in America to, oh goodness. Well, usually you find the dummies are going to do some terrorism plot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Yeah. So. Yeah. So, yes. Well, that's good. I'm glad you reminded everybody that it's a term limit, not like you get elected for 10 years. That's a very good point. You were talking about R.F.K. Jr.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Well, they're trying an old one on him, which is at this point, it's embarrassing that they still think that this is going to work. And I do have some ideas for them, free advice from the Curry Devoire Consulting Group. How are we going to get rid of this R.F.K. Jr.? Oh, let me check the, what do we have on the books, guys? We have, what have we used before? Oh yes, let's try this one. In the words of 77 Nobel laureates
Starting point is 01:25:08 in medicine, chemistry, physics, economics. RFK Junior at the helm of the Department of Health and Human Services would put the public's health in jeopardy and undermine America's global leadership in the health sciences. So they got 77 Nobel laureates. Okay. I just want to mention somebody.
Starting point is 01:25:26 This is a, uh, obviously some sort of club. And so I, I went and looked up. I only did about five of them, but I did five random Nobel laureates and looked them up on open secrets. Oh, good. All of them. Big Democrat supporters. All of them. Yeah. Big Democrat supporters, all of them. And I would suspect that if you would look them all up,
Starting point is 01:25:50 they're all big Democrat supporters. One or two of them didn't support anybody, but, but period. But the rest of them, there's no, there's not a Republican in the crowd. This is bull shit. It's also dumb. Here's what they need to do. They need to get 77 of the biggest influencers like Mr. Beast. You know, you got to get these people to say it. And by the way, they'll go in a heartbeat. How much? You got it.
Starting point is 01:26:19 I'm in. True. Money helps. Money works. Yeah, sure. Have you got influencers? Cash is king. You got that woman who's cooking with her son on TikTok, in fact, any of your TikTok influencers, they're all great. If you get them saying that it's no good, that's how you use the network. I don't understand what this particular group uses these old, the Nobel laureate. Go on the street and say, who's a Nobel laureate? Name one, nothing.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Who's a big YouTube star? Mr. Beast. Who's a big influencer? Kim Kardashian. These are the people you need to say that RFK Junior's no good. You're absolutely correct because you could go on the street with the mic and ask,
Starting point is 01:27:04 what is a Nobel laureate? They won't know. They won't know that. And they said, well, can you name one? And nobody, I can't even name one off the top of my head. You know, some of the old timers back when I was at Berkeley. Yeah. So this is just so stupid.
Starting point is 01:27:22 And this is actually a, I think this is a France 24, yeah, France 24 report. Listen to this complete void of evidence and fact report that France 24 is putting out about RFK Jr. This in a letter addressed to members of the United States Senate listing off the health secretary nominee's most sensationalist conspiracy theories on public health. You imagine if Mr. Beast went into the Senate or Kim Kardashian, they'd be like, yeah, RFK Jr. is no good, Kim. Absolutely. Mr. Kennedy has been an opponent of many health protecting and life-saving vaccines,
Starting point is 01:28:00 such as those that prevent measles and polio. A promoter of conspiracy theories. This is bull crap. I told you! about remarkably successful treatments for AIDS and other diseases On the one hand, JFK's nephew is a libertarian, railing against policies he called totalitarian in the days of COVID vaccination Now they get, do you remember when during COVID he went to I think was Berlin and it's Berlin but he was I think it was Berlin and he went to a big conference a big outdoor rally people were against the vaccine shot against the against vaccine passports
Starting point is 01:28:38 and he spoke outdoors. That's what they're going to go back to now. The minute they hand you that vaccine passport, every right that you have is transformed into a privilege contingent upon your obedience to arbitrary government dictates. And what do we do about this? What do we do? We resist. about this? What do we do? We resist. During the pandemic he also... Wait, hold on a second. Any normal person listening to that has to agree with it. Why are they playing a clip like that? There's a circle jerk over there at France 24. They're all like, oh yeah, oh Pierre, that was a very good piece, eh? It was a very good hit piece you did on JFKr Junior. We resist.
Starting point is 01:29:30 During the pandemic, he also suggested the virus may have been engineered to target Caucasian and black people, while sparing Ashkenazi Jews and the Chinese. This is quite a twist of the truth. A theory widely denounced as anti-Semitic and racist. He has also... And stop again. We should mention that this was a conversation he had over a dinner table suggesting the possibilities of these sorts of things. And it has been discussed to an extreme which is why there's a freak out over all the genetic information that these 23
Starting point is 01:29:59 and me or whatever are sending to China. And because of this, the possibility that you can create a targeted virus that only takes... So that's not out of the realm of possibility. And if you remember during the very first few months of the COVID breakout, when the first case was discovered in Washington state, there was discussion that it was targeting Han Chinese. It was an open discussion. That's right.
Starting point is 01:30:24 A theory widely denounced as anti-semitic and racist. He's an anti-semit. He has also attributed autism to vaccines, a debunked claim. So not scientifically disproven. It's just a debunked claim. However, in his days as an environmental lawyer, he pushed for regulation and fought cases against the likes of seed giant Monsanto over the Roundup herbicide causing cancer.
Starting point is 01:30:48 And if confirmed, he has promised to wage war on the food and beverages industry, who he says are driving an obesity epidemic in children, a plan that may be met with pushback from Donald Trump and the powerful food lobbies. Now, I thought that was very interesting they threw that in the end. So he's going to go against the food industry, food labeling mainly, a plan that Donald Trump may not like because of the powerful food lobby. When does this come up? I don't get where that came from either. That's new to me.
Starting point is 01:31:20 What is interesting in our theory of get someone upfront to draw all the fire and be the lightning rod and then slip in the deputy person into all these different positions, R.F.K. Jr. apparently is promoting the idea of his daughter-in-law to be the deputy director of the CIA, which is interesting because we don't know if she's old school or new, she's not old enough to be old school CIA. And she wrote a book and she's CIA or was, more or less. Are you ever was? I don't think you ever was.
Starting point is 01:31:57 You always are. And so she would be a good mole. Very good. And then breaking this morning, breaking! President Trump announces Kerry Lake will serve as director of Voice of America. Oh, I missed this one.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Yes, the propaganda arm of the United States government. So they gave up on her trying to become governor or senator or whatever. Let me see what Trump wrote about it. There's something the population of Arizona does not like her for some reason. I am pleased to announce that Carrie Lake will serve as our director of The Voice of
Starting point is 01:32:34 America. She will be appointed by and work closely with our next head of the US Agency for Global Media. That's the person you want to be. So she really got a crap job, who I will announce soon to ensure that the American values of freedom and liberty are broadcast around the world fairly and accurately, unlike the lies spread by the fake news media. Uh huh.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Right. So Carrie Lake is a broadcaster, so it makes sense to put her in a broadcasting gig. She's basically becoming the, what's that? what's that num nut over at CNN, Brian, what's his name? Stelter? Yeah, she's the stelter of the voice of America now. It's not a good job. It's like you're in the pocket, but not really. Well, it pays well and has a benefit, probably has benefits.
Starting point is 01:33:24 She needs a job. Oh, yeah. It has government benefits, probably has a pension. Yeah, you get to move to DC. I mean, there's all kinds of benefits. Yeah, it'll be fine. She's not going to complain. But the most horrific news, breaking, breaking.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Oh, I can't believe this. Donald Trump. Alert, alert, alert. Alert, alert. First reported by CBS News that Donald Trump has invited the leader of America's greatest geopolitical rival to his inauguration what can you tell us about that yeah well nor we know that Trump has extended an invitation to Chinese President Xi Jinping and he did so shortly after his election win in November no world leader has ever attended the inauguration of an
Starting point is 01:34:00 American president especially a communist leader like President Xi coming Trump's been extremely critical of China and Xi and he's threatening again to impose tariffs on the country. But we also know that Trump puts huge value on face-to-face meetings with other leaders, even rivals. And inauguration officials are making plans for additional foreign dignitaries to attend. It's going to be a big event, Nora. What do you think is going to happen here?
Starting point is 01:34:22 This is an interesting move by Trump. Well, this has been discussed to an extreme on the various M5Ms, including Fox. Magazine shows, yes. And the phony balonies that are on these shows. Nobody has a clue. They think that he might show up and he might not show up. But I think if he's smart, he'll show up. I think a lot of attention, you know, he needs an, he has to show up with an entourage. He can't just be some lone dude,
Starting point is 01:34:55 you know, no plus one kind of guy. Just think, well, here, maybe I can pick up a chick. I mean, there's no, he has to have something going on. He can't just, she's showing up by himself. He should bring a North Korea kid, the Rocket Man. They should both come to, that should be his plus one. That would be cool. It would be fantastic.
Starting point is 01:35:22 What a new era that would be all of a sudden. It could set us, you know, it's possible that there's been some back-channeling that we don't know about and this has already been agreed upon. I think it would be great to have Kim Jong-un join Xi. Well, I'm not talking about Eun, but I'm talking about Xi. and join G. Well, I'm not talking about UN, but I'm talking about G. Oh, I don't see why not. They've already figured this out and they're going to do it, but they're going to make it so it's an event.
Starting point is 01:35:52 So it's going to be discussed a lot. Something gets discussed to an excess on the mainstream media. It's like, well, why? What is going on here? Are we being played again? Yeah, that's a good point. It's a good point. That's a good point. So President Trump sat down with your friend, Kristen Welker, over at NBC. And it was kind of interesting because on one hand it was about the January 6th commission
Starting point is 01:36:30 and how they destroyed all the evidence. And then he gave her career advice. Have you seen this? I saw most of it. I did not watch the thing from beginning to end and I figured you'd get some clips from it. Yeah, I just have one. But the clips, I didn't like it because the, well, he steamrolled her for the most part. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Which he should do because she's full of shit. She's terrible. She's a lousy interviewer. She's very biased and I don't like her and she's extremely hard to watch because of her hands. You ever, and I've said this, people condemn me for pointing this out. But once you notice her hands, you're a hand hater, you're a hand hater. They're hands of an old black laborer. They're man hands and they're horrible looking. And once you see them once, they're burned in your brain and it's hard to watch her because you can't not
Starting point is 01:37:22 look at her hands or just like whoa. Now, listen, this was a committee, a big deal. They lied. And what did they do? They deleted and destroyed a whole year and a half worth of testimony. I think those people committed a major crime and Cheney was behind it. So was Benny Thompson and everybody on that committee. We're going to for what they did. Yeah, honestly, they should go to jail. Oh, so you think Liz Cheney should go to jail? Just remember, unselect committee, a year and a half of sworn testimony.
Starting point is 01:38:01 And after getting all of the testimony they deleted it wait and they destroyed almost everything there's nothing left it's unprecedented and they denied you do that in a civil case you go to jail you know they deny doing that if you you know you have such potential if If you could be just. If you could just fix the hands. Just non-biased. You hurt yourself so badly. I'm telling you, they deleted and destroyed all the evidence, everyone knows it.
Starting point is 01:38:36 And you slough it off like it doesn't mean anything. No, I'm just saying they deny it, that's all I'm saying. Listen, if I did it, you would be standing up in that chair shouting at me, and you know what I'd do if I did it, you would be standing up in that chair shouting at me. And you know what I'd do? I'd say, you got me. They have done something so illegal. They have a committee sworn to, and because it was so bad.
Starting point is 01:38:57 The only reason they did it is because the testimony turned out to be in favor of me. They got rid of it because it made Nancy Pelosi, the mayor of DC, so many people look like criminals. I like it. You have so much potential. That's really funny. Yeah, that's a good character. Let me give you some advice.
Starting point is 01:39:16 You got so much potential. You really should reconsider what you're doing. It really doesn't make any sense here. Okay, well that reminds me of a clip which I have, which is kind of ancillary, but same thing. This is Jesse Waters. Ah! Jesse Waters, and this is a discussion of media collapse
Starting point is 01:39:37 because he plays a clip of Leslie Stahl, you know, spilling her guts in some interview with, I think, the columnist, I can her guts in some interview with, I think the columnist, I can't remember her name offhand of the New York Times columnist, I believe. And, but he, she's there going on and on about how the media has fallen apart. And then, and I think Jesse has a real interesting point. I don't like to play these sorts of clips necessarily because it's, you know,
Starting point is 01:40:03 these guys Fox, but let's play this clip. Cause it's you know these guys Fox but let's play this clip because it's similar to the it's similar to the advice that you just heard. I can see media is on life support. CNN just lost to the Food Network. People would rather see Veal Scallopini being prepared than Wolf Blitzer. And inside of the newsrooms, they've accepted defeat. If you watch the opinion of us, how many people trust the press anymore? I mean, we're way down there with the lawyers.
Starting point is 01:40:34 This is really rough, as you know. You're way down there with Congress. I despair. Seriously, I worry greatly. We're at a point where if the president of the United States is going to say legacy media is dead, well, I guess Musk said that legacy media is dead. And he wants it dead. He wants other media.
Starting point is 01:40:56 But it is kind of sort of hobbling right now. And I don't know how it recovers. I'm very, I'm very dark about it. Well, Biden just pardoned Hunter for what was on the laptop that Leslie Stahl said was fake. And Leslie doesn't know how the media recovers? Retire Leslie. With all due respect, you're the reason why.
Starting point is 01:41:20 I love, he's basically, Jesse Watters is basically the dog that's sitting at the table with the coffee cup and the fire all around I'm saying this is fine. Yeah He's right in the middle of it and you won't like this. I don't like it YouTube TV is raising its prices Yeah, you and I both use jackety. Okay. Okay YouTube TV, which I recommend. As a tip of the day? It was kind of, I think it was, wasn't it? Might have been, it should be.
Starting point is 01:41:52 But it's a great product for the simple reason that it has virtual DVR capability. Forever DVR capability, it seems. Well, no, it's 90 days to keep the recordings. Right, but you can record anything you want. You can record every channel. You can record everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:09 You can literally record every channel all the time if you wanted to. I mean, you don't want that because then you can't find anything, but because you got too many recordings. But it records all, it just records and records like a maniac. And it does a very good job of it.
Starting point is 01:42:23 It makes it worth it. Because you can watch everything on delay, that means you don't have to watch any commercials and it's just a great product. And they have a good, they give you Turner Classic movies, ESPN, you have all the Fox, you got all the CNN, you got everything. But I remember when I first, I subscribed to it years ago when it first came out because I didn't, it's better than cable and the DVR thing really impressed me. It was like 49 bucks. And then you want HD, you got to pay another 10 bucks.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Well, HD is pretty cool. So I got that, you know, not HD, I'm sorry, 4K. Yes, you can pay an extra 10 bucks for 4K. So there's a lot of 4K content and you get that, mostly sports, and you just another, okay, so now you're up to 59 bucks. And they, out of the blue, they change, oh, and that's 69 bucks.
Starting point is 01:43:15 And I think it's 79 now. I don't know what it is. They keep jacking it up. I think they're losing money on the product. Yes, it's 72.99 and as of January 13th it goes to $82.99. Yeah, it just keeps going up. And that's plus, and I'm sure that's, I still have to pay the extra 10 bucks for 4k. Oh, I haven't seen it, but that might become 15 bucks. That could be. They just keep jacking it up and jacking it up. It's a good service, but now it's really getting pricey.
Starting point is 01:43:48 The problem they have... There's no alternative. Well, first of all, they are paying carriage fees. That's the problem. They're paying carriage fees. They have to pay every single network just like cable companies did. I think they have a technical issue, although I don't want to say I know anything better than the technicians and engineers at Google.
Starting point is 01:44:07 But when it comes to Netflix, you know, Netflix, they have servers and storage at the head ends of every single data center. So is Google. Yeah, but it's still streaming TV. So it's not... Google, yes, Google doesn't have it for the streaming service. I'm sure that's my point But Netflix and and the rest of them don't have it for their streaming either. They have it for specific shows Yeah, and they did and they did streaming one time and they found out how hard it is With the with the Tyson fight with the Tyson Paul fight. So the YouTube I think it's a I think you're right
Starting point is 01:44:42 I think it's a very expensive product for them to offer Yeah, they may be losing money on it. I've always thought they were losing money on YouTube But now they're now they have so much an ad revenue. I guess it's not possible But I think that the YouTube tier and if people want to check it out It's TV dot YouTube comm and you can take a look at at it anyway, it's going up is it just going Yeah, you know it's going to go up everything keeps going up Uh, I'll throw in a couple of uh, ai News bits here. Um
Starting point is 01:45:17 ai continues to stumble and be a problem very big problem According to core developers from both Python and curl, significant amounts of time are now being taken up, not developing new features, not fixing bugs, but dealing with, as they put it, slop AI bug reports and security vulnerabilities that aren't real, that are simply hallucinations of artificial intelligence, where people are using AI to scan the code of projects like Python and CURL and saying,
Starting point is 01:45:56 hey, hey, AI system, find me a security vulnerability, at which point the AI systems by and large say, oh yeah, I found one all right, and provide what looks like a very real set of AI vulnerabilities based on the code. The user then copies that, paste it into a bug report, hit send and clogs up the work. So instead of fixing actual bugs, instead of doing real security research, instead of adding new features to the software that underpins our very lives. The core developers are now spending a significant amount of time trying to figure out which reports are just AI generated slop. Yeah, I think this is great. More of that, please. More. I want all of it to be filled with slop. So some joker on X asked Grok the following question,
Starting point is 01:46:50 what does Adam Curry, co-host of No Agenda, think about AI? Well, what do you think Grok said? I wouldn't have a clue what Croc said. Well first of all, Croc output a lot of information, which I'm not going to read at all, because that's what AI does. That's part of the parlor trade. Yeah, it obfuscates. Yes, it's dumbness with lots of words.
Starting point is 01:47:19 Based on the available information, Adam Curry, co-host of the No Agenda podcast, has not explicitly detailed his thoughts on AI in the context of his podcasting or media work. However, we can infer some perspectives from related activities and statements. Now listen to this. Curry has shown interest in AI through projects like the Collective Consciousness app and his involvement with the Princeton Engineering Consciousness app and his involvement with the Princeton Engineering Anomalies research lab where he explored consciousness and its interaction with technology, including AI. What? I didn't know I was a part of that. This suggests an interest in how AI might interact with or affect human consciousness or vice versa. How about that?
Starting point is 01:48:08 Holy moly. Nobody knew that you were involved with this stuff at that level. His discussions on consciousness, reality and technology as seen in his other projects show a philosophical approach to AI. He might be interested in whether AI can achieve or simulate consciousness or how it might challenge our understanding of reality, themes that resonate with some of the more speculative topics that he and John C. Dvorak touch upon. In summary, while Adam Curry hasn't specifically outlined his thoughts on AI,
Starting point is 01:48:41 really? Within the No Agenda podcast context, really? His broader work, including the Pear Lab, indicates an interest in AI from the perspective of consciousness, technology, technological innovation, and philosophical inquiry. He likely views AI with both curiosity for its potential and caution regarding its broader implications on society, consciousness and media. What a grok of crap. Wow.
Starting point is 01:49:12 Wow. Are you really amazed at this horrible analysis by Grok? Well, I'm surprised it went on and on like that because obviously it intermixed you with somebody named Adam Curry that happened to be, this is no good. It's not even close. I don't understand how bad it can be. I mean, and they have my tweets, my slashes, they've got all of that stuff.
Starting point is 01:49:39 I like the way they do it though. It's done in an authoritative manner I can see why why kids would if I was in college and I was like a numb nuts I couldn't write and I used to start using AI I can see where a professor could be taken about you know this guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about well this gotta be a real this is why they I by the way people always bitch about this and call colleges you know those kids as kids are taking advantage of the, the fact is in real testing environments in college, we used to do what was called a blue book test.
Starting point is 01:50:13 That means you'd go in and you'd have these things called blue books. They were little books and you were given the test live and you had to write the, write your essay in the blue book. You couldn't use anything. You couldn't use, you weren't turning anything in. You were doing a live blue book test. You still can't get around that. You know, I would say that if you had people,
Starting point is 01:50:37 they were essays during the year, you'd take these essays in, they'd get a blue book exam at the end, and you'd compare notes, see what this guy writes in the blue book and see what he sends in his. You can tell the guys using AI. Why was the book blue? Why was the book blue? They were called blue books and they were like a little,
Starting point is 01:50:56 it was like a little pamphlet like thing. It was just a flimsy little, and on the outside it was, it had a blue, it had a blue cover and it said blue book on it. I have no idea why this came about. I don't even know if they still use blue. Somebody out there who's going to college, tell me if they still use these blue books. But that was at Cal, they were called blue book tests. You can't fake them.
Starting point is 01:51:22 It really doesn't matter because it's all over for AI Alphabet shares jump 6% after Google touts breakthrough with quantum chip. Oh Brother, yes, that's it. Yes. I read about this money. Oh, this also proved there's dimensions in the universe In fact, they did a calculation that I'm just highlighting the summary here. It did a calculation that can only be done because it went into some interdimensional galaxy. And that was, I guess, somebody picked up, hey, what's this? We got a message here from this other dimension. Well, let's give them the answer, Bill, and then send it back to the chip through some quantum mechanism. Oh, please. Yes, Google's Willow quantum chip has solved a problem
Starting point is 01:52:05 that would have taken the best supercomputer a quadrillion times the age of the universe to crack. And how could you know? Yeah, exactly. That's always the question. Oh, well is that even possible to know? How do you know? You know what's next?
Starting point is 01:52:21 Google's gonna crack Bitcoin. Yeah, that's next. Well, that would be funny if it happened. Back to AI. I do have an AI clip I want to throw in. This is the Apple AI for Christmas. Drugmaker Apple is hoping that adding more AI to its latest iPhone offerings will pump up sales during the busy holiday shopping season.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Apple offering a new software update for its latest models and includes a feature that lets users create Customize emojis Wow Wow software comes as Apple's playing catch-up in the AI space Good good at it. I like it. Let me hear that again. That was good That's an ISO actually Wow, dude, really? Wow That's an ISO actually. Wow, dude, really?
Starting point is 01:53:04 Wow. So that's a flop. And I can tell you because the New York Zoomer for Christmas requested a, wait for it, a refurbished iPhone 13
Starting point is 01:53:22 small version. Did not want the newest iPhone. No, no, I want the small one. I want it to be the 13, had the specs, knew exactly what she wanted. They're not new anymore. So I'll just take a refurbished one, likes the size, doesn't use it for all, is not interested in AI.
Starting point is 01:53:42 Apple intelligence. Well, that Apple AI thing's a joke. It's a gimmick. The best it can do is design emojis. I mean, what kind of AI is we talking about here? But you know, Google's Willow can design an emoji a million, a quadrillion times faster, so. Yes, right.
Starting point is 01:53:59 And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage saying the morning to you, the man who put the sea in quantum computing. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeVorent. Good morning to you, Mr. Hammond. The morning ships of the sea and the boots of the ground, the feet in the air and the subs in the water, the dames and the knights out there. Hello there, trolls.
Starting point is 01:54:20 Good morning to you. Show me how you do things. You know what? Everyone tuned in for the hot Luigi talk. 2067, which is good for a Thursday. It's above average. Yeah, so it's 200 plus above the normal. It's above average.
Starting point is 01:54:38 Yeah, because they wanted the hot Luigi. Hey, that's what everybody wants. Mario. I just want a hot Luigi. A hot Luigi. Hey, that's what everybody was Mario. I just want a hot Luigi. A hot Luigi. Which I learned hot Luigi before they caught him was categorized as DL trade. I know that's that was the silence I made as well when I heard. Sorry. That mean what?
Starting point is 01:55:02 Okay, DL capital D capital L for down low, which means he's, he's gay. Trade means he's hot. So he's a closeted, hot gay guy. That's DL trade. There's a lot of gay, not memes, but TikTok posts and others that are all funny from different gay guys making a pass at him and singing for him.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Really? Tell me you brought some of those. I didn't. I have the girls mostly because the girls are funnier. The guys are singing, okay, well, I can get them for the next show. Sunday, I'll bring some in. Yeah. But my favorite one is the McDonald's guy.
Starting point is 01:55:45 He's supposedly at McDonald's and he's playing, doing a shtick. And it's kind of a comedy act, but he's super gay and he's making a pass at Luigi. He was there at the counter. It's very funny. I mean, of all the TikTok clips I wanna see, and then you don't bring him.
Starting point is 01:56:00 I mean, this was your opportunity. I'm not a mind reader. I don't know that you're that interested in the gay TikTok clips. I know what you're interested in. What? No. What? When I see it, I know it. You know, like, oh, John will like this. I'm always thinking about you.
Starting point is 01:56:19 You're just thinking about yourself. I looked at the gay. I had them. I'm looking at them. I'm thinking they're just going to be tough. Okay. I'll bring the best ones. Two of them. DL Trade. DL Trade. There we go. There we go. I never heard that term. I hadn't either. The DL part I got with Trade, I didn't know. I didn't know. And now it's like, now the same. By the way, quick question. So there's a picture of him in the mountains
Starting point is 01:56:47 hiking. Now he's got such a bad back. He's had it since he was a kid. Bad back, horrible back. Oh, he's been miserable since he's been. I almost turned gay. I'm like, look at this guy. How do you get abs like that with a bad back? I'd like to know. You have to do crunches. You got to do all kinds of different things to get abs like that. I don't get it. I don't see how you can have a bad back. I'd like to know. You have to do crunches. You got to do all kinds of different things to get abs like that. I don't get it. I don't see how you can have a bad back and have those abs. You get the feeling that something doesn't add up. Something doesn't add up. In addition, now the kids are all saying,
Starting point is 01:57:30 hot Luigi is a distraction during enrollment season. Which I thought was interesting. Enrollment for what? Oh, for the marketplace. Your healthcare marketplace is enrollment between now December 15th to January 15th. Oh. I don't know why or how that plays in, but I'm just passing it on. You
Starting point is 01:57:47 never know. Sometimes the kids know things. Anyway, you are listening to the No Agenda Show. This is where we thank people for supporting us in many different ways, time, talent or treasure. Now, the trolls that we just counted, they're in the Troll Room. You can join there at trollroom.io, which has been a great part of Time and Talent. Void Zero has had that thing open for 15 years at least. You can jump in there and hang out, use a modern podcast app, which by the way, you want the modern podcast app.
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Starting point is 01:58:50 because it's hard. It's hard to get art, but we have producers who are pros. Some are prompt jockeys, but there's always a selection. We can always find something that we at least find acceptable. They're not always great. Sometimes they get knocked out of the park, but we do want to review the art and thank the artists who did it for the previous show. With 1719 was the episode titled Pod Roll, and Kube the Boob scored another one. Kube had, this is like two in a month,
Starting point is 01:59:18 I think, for Kube the Boob. There was, it wasn't perfect, but this was the No Agenda viral protein bottle. Now with raw milk, it had the typical 33 ounces. You had wanted to have some more drop shadow or to have the positioning differently. Yeah, or something twisted, something a little more dimensional. The shadow would have been good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:44 There's a lot of issues with it. I mean, he did a good job on the label. Of course, there was a violation, which is the spike protein. Yeah, that is a violation. That is a violation. That is a violation. But it had a happy face on it,
Starting point is 01:59:57 so I thought I could put up with it. I like pod roll better, and use it on the newsletter. Yeah, but it felt like it was a little out of context. Who knows what a pod role is. Yeah, a little bit, but it had, it was really a well done AI woman. Yeah, that's scare a man goes trademark. Have you seen his end of year movie that he did?
Starting point is 02:00:18 No. About an apocalyptic scene. It's probably about six or seven minutes at Walmart and everyone turns into a zombie. No, I have not seen this at all. It's pretty good. Oh yeah, it's pretty good. Well, maybe he can listen in and send me a link. I don't know how he did that, but it's impressive.
Starting point is 02:00:37 I'm bored. I don't like the ending though. It ends with Jesus Christ smoking a doobie. It's like, dude, that was unnecessary. Everything else about it was pretty good. Oh, now you're a critic. Oh yeah, I'm a critic of that, yeah. But otherwise it was well done. I wonder what system he used for that.
Starting point is 02:00:56 And if that's free, or if that's 20 bucks a month, he can get that kind of output. No, nothing that does that stuff is free. But it's not expensive. They're still losing money. They must be. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:08 It's all going to end. Horowitz called me last night. Yeah, I told him that you... I said something to him that indicated... No, he calls me and it's right before dinner. He says, hey, how you doing? I said, hey, Andrew, what's going on? He says, Dvorak says you're pissed at me.
Starting point is 02:01:24 I said, what? About what what's going on? He says, Dvorak says you're pissed at me. I said, what? About what? And he couldn't remember. I'm like, I'm not pissed at you. If I'm pissed at you, I'll pick up the phone. But I've never been mad at him. So you're like, you're like, stoking things up for no reason. Here's what's funny about it. I said that. What's funny about it? Here's what's funny about it. I said, yeah, you know, he said Yeah, I haven't talked to Adam for a while. So yeah, I know he's pissed at you and He says what?
Starting point is 02:01:53 No, he's not. He says, oh, you're just you're just a troublemaker. He calls me out. Yes. Yes. That's what you are Troublemaker calls me out. He says you're the troublemaker typical troublemaker So then he I guess he bought it enough to call you. That's hilarious. You got under his skin. You did. Again, proving, you know, my methodology works. I just want you two to talk. Of trolling, you mean? You're just a troll is what you are? Yeah, your trolling works. Yeah. Yeah. So we're going gonna talk on Saturday because he called during dinner
Starting point is 02:02:25 But he wouldn't talk about yeah the fish he caught No, he's killed. So he's got he's gotten some Like us like it's too good like a marlin Blue marlin that took these guys to reel in he sent me a picture of it enough to eat for a year Don't they throw those back though on those fishing trips? Some of them they throw back some some of them they don't. I always feel bad when they get a sailfish. You're not going to eat a sailfish.
Starting point is 02:02:51 Sailfish is not tasty, is it? I don't think so. I think they throw sailfishes back. But the marlins, I'm pretty sure they eat. It's like tuna? They eat a wahoo, I know that, and there's a couple other fishes. And I keep telling them to freeze a couple pieces and send them off and dry ice to me. I'd like to have some of that. I can't you know that kind of fish you those game fish in the East Coast you can't get out here under
Starting point is 02:03:14 any circumstance. No, no, no. They all ran away from the libtards. It's like you know trying to find good venison. I mean I I would, you have to have a hunter friend and then your elk. Wow. Or moose. That's, that's a tough go. We had to find some of this shoots moose. Have you ever had a beef from Perini ranch in Texas? No.
Starting point is 02:03:38 And I haven't had, what is the name of that animal? You're supposed to eat down there. That is the Oryx, Oryx. Oryx. Oryx that you have yet to experience and you've been in Texas for a decade? No, I've had it. The oil baron got it. We talked about it. No. Yes. Well, how come I didn't get a chunk? I'm sorry. That was Neil Guy. Neil Guy. You're right. Neil Guy. Similar to Oryx.
Starting point is 02:04:01 Yeah, but it wasn't Oryx. Excuse me. I'll send you some armadillo beef. You'll like it. I don't want armadillo. All right. Let's look at the rest of this art because I don't think there was much else. You kind of like the alien by Darren O'Neill. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 02:04:16 But you thought it was gruesome. I thought it was gruesome. I don't want aliens. It was just the gruesome violation. I kind of like Cassius goat yogurt. I like that too. Because of the googly eyes. I thought that was funny.
Starting point is 02:04:28 And the rest is just a bunch of AI robots. I mean, that's why stop it. And people keep doing that. I mean, look at now we have flying saucers. Everyone thinks, oh, they want drones flying. Every single piece, except for every single piece except for you know every single piece that I see here is stupid AI that has been submitted so far. Well I know it's a smart AI but there is a couple piece, there's a piece
Starting point is 02:04:54 there I like it see somebody's got the top I won't say what it is. Let me check. Oh I think I know what you want you mean. I'll write it down I'll hold it up later. And my guess is... am I right? Am I right or am I wrong? Anyway, thank you very much, Kube the Boob, for your submission. And we appreciate the work that all of the artists do. NoAgendaArtGenerator.com.
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Starting point is 02:06:39 Have a happy baby Jesus season. No jingles or karma. Well, we love that. Thank you very much. Mary Ann. And then we go to Sir Zach of Fudge in Frankenmuth, Michigan. And he's the Fudge Man. Yeah, he's a fudge guy. Noagendafudge.com. 33333. John and Adam in the morning. By the way, I have to mention something before we finish this. John and Adam in the morning were happy to be a loyalist to the No Agenda show and want
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Starting point is 02:07:34 The they make a product called Christmas cookie. I think it's the name of it. That's that's that I have no, maybe it's a white chocolate fudge. It's not name of it. That's, that's, that I haven't know. Maybe it's a white chocolate fudge. It's not fudge color. It's just white with a bunch of sparklies in it or different colors. That is so good. It's unbelievable. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:55 The Christmas cookie. So I would recommend the Christmas, Christmas cookie. And do people get a, a discount when they use the promo code, no agenda? Or is that just to track the success of this blatant ad? I think the discount code is free shipping It could be you don't know they could be working for Google Hey, sir, Zach a fudge. We just love the idea that there's a website called no agenda fudge comm That's just great Adam this Christmas cookie one. I want to taste your fudge
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Starting point is 02:09:05 Thank you for all that you do for our family would not survive without you. Love, Chris and Inchworm. Now is that Dame Jen who they couldn't survive or they couldn't survive without us? I think Dame Jen. Dame Jen probably makes more sense. It makes more sense. Yes. Fine without us.
Starting point is 02:09:24 Sam Selinski is in San Pedro, California. Look at the Californians check in today. 244.44, this is also an associate executive producer credit. Dear John and Adam, John uses foul language rarely. And when he does, it is in the milieu of Northern California and is awesome. He continues, I argue dipshit and dumb shit are both of the NorCal dialect and challenge anyone who wants to get their tit in a ringer over this. Well, do you have any comment on this? because I do have NorCal slant. So it would make sense that dip, I don't know that dipshit's not internationally used. I never heard of a Frenchman saying it.
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Starting point is 02:10:44 Long time douchebag. And having it fall on a show day, I figured it's time for me to contribute. Long time douchebag, I've been listening to the show since the 2020 Rogan appearance. Rogan donation. There you go. I appreciate everything you guys do. I would request a 35th birthday call out, a de-douching love karma, and a mac and cheese jingle. You've been de-douched. jingle you've been deduced you've got karma and there's Eli the coffee guy which means we're coming near the end from Bensonville, Illinois to
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Starting point is 02:12:51 So what was the, what was the Wattaburger, it's Watt, W-H-A-T, burger. It's Wattaburger, yeah. Yeah, Wattaburger. Yeah. Uh, I don't, it's for some reason. What made it stink? I don't know, but it just, it just. Bad oil?
Starting point is 02:13:04 It stayed in the car, I don't know, I'm never gonna made it stink. I don't know but it just bad oil it stayed in the car. I don't know I'm never gonna eat it again. Maybe a burger fall under this chair the seat there. No, I think that's what I thought checked No, there was nothing fell under this seat I checked and I have one of those handy pockets that was your tip of the day So it would have fallen right into the pocket and not under the seat. Oh That's nice Linda Lou Patkins up in Lakewood, Colorado, 200 bucks, jobs karma she wants. This Christmas gives... You know, I was going to blow through this.
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Starting point is 02:16:13 Let me see oh Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead you go. Let's do that. I got you these are this is some old ones here I want to get communism in schools. This is interesting House lawmakers held a hearing on the crucial communism Communism Teaching Act. The bill would add a national high school curriculum to teach the dangers of communism. One proponent of the bill says 25% of Gen Z students hold a favorable view of the ideology. NTD correspondent Jason Blair brings us the latest. Oh man, we think it's great. Communism rocks! It's the best! What could possibly go wrong? Wow.
Starting point is 02:16:50 The reason for those clips, by the way, was for that little fact to it. Oh yeah, yeah. All right, and there's a second bit here, which gets even worse, I'm sure. No, it's pretty bad, but go on. The Crucial Communism Teaching Act was heard by the committee on rules on Tuesday. That's when the amendments were chosen to be included with the bill. Then on Wednesday afternoon, more arguments were made before those amendments and rules get voted on in the House. Mr. Speaker, a report recently found that nearly half of Gen Z students are unaware
Starting point is 02:17:20 that the Chinese Communist Party is responsible for more deaths than Nazi Germany. A quarter of Gen Z students hold a favorable opinion of communism, and nearly 20% think that communism is a better system of government than capitalism. Now I guess the Republicans want us to spend time debating whether high school students should be taught that communism is bad. The last time I checked, most schools already do that. Reb McGovern also wants to see fascism included with the bill. The bill aims to make a federal civic high school curriculum that will have students quote learn that communism has led to the deaths of over 100 million victims
Starting point is 02:18:02 worldwide, understand the dangers of communism and similar political ideologies, and understand that one and a half billion people still suffer under communism. The final version is expected to go to the House for a final vote later this week. Well, that's interesting because I have a clip that pairs with this, although approaching it from that it pairs with this, although approaching it from the opposite angle. From a TikToker, I'll have you know, although when I do Tik Tok I bring good quality audio. This is from a guy named Therapy Jeff. Have you seen Therapy Jeff in your travels? Not yet. Therapy Jeff says this.
Starting point is 02:18:43 You may not know it, but living under capitalism is damaging your mental health. The overwhelming feeling of competition, the scarcity mindset, the loneliness and no self-worth can all be tied back to living in a capitalist society. In this video, I wanna help you understand that therapy, self-help and self-improvement may not be able to improve your mood or peace of mind
Starting point is 02:19:03 due to the constant pressure of capitalism. At the end of the video, I'll go over a few things that you can start doing in order to cope with the negative mental and emotional effects that you might be feeling. Now he's about to do a read for an ad therapy, Jeff. What do you think the ad is for? Bitcoin? Before we dive in, I'm Jeff Gunther, a licensed professional counselor in Portland, Oregon. And this video is brought to you by TherapyDen.com.
Starting point is 02:19:31 Go to TherapyDen.com to find a progressive and accepting therapist near you by using the over 140 search filters. And I would love it if you supported this video by clicking that like button right now. And what are the chances you call up his sponsor and they tell you that you're a boy? I'm telling you, this is, this should be outlawed. This practice of a licensed therapist promoting therapy with progressive therapists. Therapy should not be progressive or conservative. It should be therapy. It should be therapy. It's therapy. It's therapy.
Starting point is 02:20:08 Who knows what they're doing to your kids. Yes. I think you nailed it here. That's a good point. But I want to make mention something else from both clips. Capitalism is not a governing system. Oh, communism is a better system of government than capital. No, we're a republic. The governing system is a democratic republic, constitutional republic. Capitalism is an economic system that works underneath the governing system.
Starting point is 02:20:38 These guys get this all mixed up. I don't understand why they can't make that simple disconnect. It doesn't make sense. It's easy to remember. Capitalism is stable coin. Remember, your future in capitalism is stable coin. It's going to be amazing what's going to happen. The stable coin nonsense. It's coming, John. It's coming. All right. What do you got?
Starting point is 02:21:06 I have important things. We have boots on the ground from the constitutional lawyer. And you remember he said it was going to be like bonfire of the vanities when it comes to Diddy Stein. And lo and behold, he was not wrong. He mentioned that there was another person who was going to be named in these Diddy lawsuits. Remember, this is all coming from the Texas lawyer Busby, who he is familiar with. Most lawyers know who Busby is. He's not just any old ambulance chaser. He's a pretty serious guy and very successful and, well, we know who it is. Tonight, rapper Jay-Z is firing back against allegations that he sexually assaulted a then-13-year-old
Starting point is 02:21:54 with Sean Diddy Combs after the 2000 VMAs. The newly amended civil lawsuit, originally filed by a Jane Doe in October, now identifies celebrity A as Jay-Z, whose legal name is Sean Carter, claiming that he and Diddy drugged and raped a 13-year-old girl at an after party and that a female celebrity stood by and watched as Combs and Carter took turns assaulting the minor. Jay-Lo. Combs and Jay-Z, who were both 30 at the time, were in attendance at the award show that year.
Starting point is 02:22:22 Combs has previously denied all allegations. And today, Jay-Z filed to dismiss the lawsuit, calling it a cynical and calculated campaign to force payment of an exorbitant sum of money. The rapper vehemently denies the allegations, taking direct aim at the plaintiff's attorney, Tony Busby, writing, what he has calculated was the nature of these allegations
Starting point is 02:22:42 and the public scrutiny would make me want to settle. Noting concern for his wife, music icon Beyonce and their three children who are 12 and 7 years old. My wife and I will have to sit our children down, one of whom is at the age where her friends will surely see the press and ask questions about the nature of these claims. Attorney Tony Busby is standing his ground writing, I won't be bullied or intimidated. People will see through this effort to discredit me and my clients and the truth will be revealed.
Starting point is 02:23:09 Yay! Season of reveal. There it is. A lot is happening with this. There are lawyer... Well, we have to remember that Busby, we had the clip, Busby came out and said there's a bunch of people that he's going to tell him to settle. And he's not going to reveal who they are unless they don't settle. So this is kind of like sketchy. Well,
Starting point is 02:23:32 that's the lawsuit that Jay Z is filed against Busby and there's many, many lawsuits going back and forth. Um, all kinds of people are coming out of the woodwork against Busby. You can read the,al Lawyers rundown. I love Rob because he has time to do this. He's keeping us. If you want to really know what's happening, which you will not get from any media, just go ahead into the show notes and look under Diddystein and you'll see, I mean, there's
Starting point is 02:24:01 a lot of different lawsuits going back and forth and a lot of allegations. Uh, but this has been bubbling under for a long time. And the 2000 video music awards, there were a lot of interesting people there. This is when Diddy was still dating JLo. Uh, Aaliyah was still alive. I mean, this, this whole thing is a big mess and we'll see what happens But I think they should just blow it all out. I Hey
Starting point is 02:24:32 When they need a distraction they will Because that's all we'll ever be able to talk about Yeah, yeah, that's probably true. Yeah, I have a amusing clip. You know, NPR has good stuff every once in a while, but then every once in a while there's a bunch of idiots that come on NPR. What do you mean? All the clips we have of NPR is with idiots. Well, not like idiot clips. Oh, okay. This is a classic example of idiot clip.
Starting point is 02:25:02 Robert, you will never guess where I was last week. I heard you were inside the Chicago Federal Reserve Bank. I imagine there are piles of money everywhere. Not that they let me infiltrate, but I was there to moderate a panel and they didn't want me recording any Fed business, though I was able to sneak a little voice memo of the catering spread. Oh my goodness. The catering spread, really?
Starting point is 02:25:33 It's just the voicing and the whole thing and the way they do it. Now Pete Hegseth is doing the same uh, the same kind of thing. Uh, Patel is doing is he's going around from place to place to, uh, promote himself in batting his eyes at the ladies and getting an ol go, okay, Pete, you're pretty good looking, but NTD, uh, I have two clips here. I have the Hegseth progress clip, but at the very beginning, this is a three second clip. Tell me that the NTD girl doesn't say pig. Another one of Trump's nominees, his defense secretary, pig, Pete Hegseth.
Starting point is 02:26:14 Yeah, this is exactly what Stephanie Ruhl did twice. Here it is. So, Pete votes. Meanwhile, Pig Hegseth, excuse me, Pete Hegseth. That's once and here's the second time. We'll have a conversation about rationality. What do you think about Pete Hegseth? It seems to be a thing.
Starting point is 02:26:32 They all want to say Pig Hegseth. It's some kind of tongue twister. It's spreading. It's a tongue. It is. It's contagious. All right. Yeah, it's so hard to say Pete.
Starting point is 02:26:43 I guess. Another one of Trump's nominees, his defense secretary pick Pete Hegseth, is looking to lock in that much needed support from Senate Republicans today. Apparently his meeting with Senator Susan Collins went well. How significant was this meeting? Right. Well, Collins did not indicate either way how she'll vote there, but she said, and so did Hegseth, that they did have a very good and productive meeting.
Starting point is 02:27:05 And this is a very important meeting to have as she's a moderate Republican, along with some others, that he's been trying to win their support. Remember, he can only lose three Senate Republican votes, assuming that all Senate Democrats vote against him and still win the confirmation, assuming that JD Vance would cast that tie-breaking vote. Here they both are after meeting earlier today. Watch. the I had a good substantive discussion that We covered a wide range of topics. I obviously always wait until we have an FBI background check, and one is
Starting point is 02:27:44 Mr. Hegseth, and I'm going to be the obviously always wait until we have an FBI background check and one is underway in the case of Mr. Hegseth. It was a great meeting with Senator Collins. And again, at office after office, having the opportunity to spend time with these senators who have invested their careers in ensuring that our warfighters get what they need has been an amazing educational process. Hank Seth appears to be having productive talks with many Republican senators and the ones who haven't outright supported them have spoken positively about their meetings,
Starting point is 02:28:15 such as Lisa Murkowski and Joni Ernst. When do these confirmation hearings take place typically? Not until after he's president. Right. But is it right away or I mean, because I just want to plan my life because it's going to be hours of C-SPAN, it's going to be all kinds of annoying stuff. It's going to be forever. I think Federman is going to vote on the Republican side.
Starting point is 02:28:44 Federman turns out to be a very entertaining fellow. Yeah, and Fetterman's just joined Truth Social. Yeah. And he's posting there. Great. Fetterman turns out to be a pretty funny dude. Here's the story that isn't getting... I mean, it's been discussed, of course, but with everything going on here in America,
Starting point is 02:29:04 I mean, we've got drones as big as buses, we've got all kinds, you know, we have, we're shooting CEOs. This is kind of floated under the wire what's happening in Canada. Effective immediately, 324 unique makes and variants of what the government calls assault style firearms are now prohibited. All newly banned models have semi-automatic action and sustained rapid-fire capability. And government officials confirmed Thursday these guns can no longer be legally used or sold in this country.
Starting point is 02:29:37 Our goal is to ensure that no community, no family is devastated by mass shootings in Canada again. These firearms join the list of more than 1500 types of firearms Prime Minister Justin Trudeau banned the sale and use of in 2020. As was the case four years ago, the government is offering owners and retailers of these newly outlawed guns amnesty until October 2025, while officials finalize a national buyback program. Wow, Canada. That's kind of sad. What is sustained rapid fire?
Starting point is 02:30:16 Like, like, I mean, they're single shot. I mean, they're semi-automatic sustained. I have no idea. I know what sustained means. You keep, your finger wears out. I don't know. But this is, I don't think this is a good idea. Canada, you shouldn't,
Starting point is 02:30:34 Canada's never had a second amendment. They don't care. The Trudeau, he's trying to look like a tough guy now. Ever since Trump said, you know We should probably make you the 51st state Which is just trolling and hilarious
Starting point is 02:30:50 So is he's trying to be tough guy and not really not really doing a good job of it No, it shouldn't be that way. It wasn't supposed to be that way We were supposed to be on a steady if difficult sometimes March towards progress. And yet, just a few weeks ago, the United States voted for a second time to not elect its first woman president. Everywhere, women's rights and women's progress is under attack, overtly and subtly. But I want you to know that I am and always will be a proud feminist.
Starting point is 02:31:26 You will always have an ally in me and in my government. First Lady of Canada Justin Trudeau everybody. Proud feminist. Proud feminist Justin with his lisp. First Lady of Canada from now on that's his title. First Lady of Canada. Come on, Justin. I'm a proud of him. That guy's a loser. And then- How do Canadians keep voting him in? I know they're going to vote him out this time, they say.
Starting point is 02:31:52 So there was a trial amidst the CEO, Hi Luigi killing of the subway vigilante, the subway vigilante who subdued and choked and then subsequently choked out and killed for all intents and purposes and according to eyewitnesses and people who were hurt by him a deranged lunatic. And so he got off, not guilty, he walks away a free man and wouldn't you know it so called because there is no more Black Lives Matters Organization this guy is a phony BLM leader, but he's getting a little bit of airtime It's like everybody else has vigilantes We need some black vigilantes
Starting point is 02:32:41 right People want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud How about we do the same when they attempt to oppress us I'm tired Looking for us to be like oh go and march go and march you know This weekend. I want you to hold a community event everywhere from the Bronx to Houston, to Seattle, to Florida, black people, whole community event and talk about what you need.
Starting point is 02:33:20 Yeah. Uh, and there's been some protests. There's been some marches. I hope it doesn't. This is so destructive, this particular type of, this is not the guy to go after. Or, you know, the case, it just doesn't make sense. And then you got, I think it was Crump, crump who was out there with the father the father's crying It's like come on man. The guy he he was he was a lunatic and the father
Starting point is 02:33:52 I didn't guess he didn't care about him when he was running around Like homeless Yes, not as well. I mean you can't blame him for being homeless, but don't pretend like you care now Yeah, well that that whole thing is is typical. New York's a mess. This would have even showed up if it wasn't for that idiot district attorney. Bragg. Bragg. Yeah. They're just trying to make points. Infowars auction has been scuttled. Yes, yes. I got this clip as well.
Starting point is 02:34:26 A bankruptcy judge has blocked satirical news outlet The Onion from buying Alex Jones's Infowars media platform. Last month, a court-appointed trustee said The Onion won the auction to acquire the parent company of Infowars, which was sold off as part of a defamation settlement after Jones falsely called the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre a hoax. The onions bid was backed by the families of eight victims of the school shooting and one first responder.
Starting point is 02:34:53 Alex Jones sued the trustee and Sandy Hook families in an effort to prevent the sale. The bankruptcy judge for the Southern District of Texas cited concerns with the auction process yesterday saying money was left on the table. The judge for the Southern District of Texas cited concerns with the auction process yesterday, saying money was left on the table. In a statement, an attorney for the Connecticut families said they are disappointed in the decision. It's not clear what happens next for Infowars. Jones still owes more than a billion dollars to Sandy Hook victims' families.
Starting point is 02:35:20 This is kind of crappy reporting because they make it sound like you can't say something's a hoax, which you can under First Amendment because this was a case where the families sued for damages because of, you know, honestly, I think a lot of things that Jones did not do or that they blamed him for, like people calling families and harassing them, which is not great, but it's a civil case. And they make it sound, you know, they just make it sound like you better shut up, you better not say anything. And they kind of obfuscate the onion and they obfuscate the buyer on the other side. You know who actually bid the three and a half million dollars on Jones's behalf? I once knew.
Starting point is 02:36:06 Well, here's a different report. A judge in Houston has rejected the sale of Alex Jones's Infowars to the satirical news outlet The Onion. Federal bankruptcy judge Christopher Lopez cited problems with the auction process and said the outcome left a lot of money on the table for families of the Sandy Hook School shooting who stand to receive most of the proceeds. The Onion, which had planned to relaunch Infowars as a parody site, bid $1.75 million in cash plus other incentives, while a company that sells nutritional supplements in Jones's name
Starting point is 02:36:35 offered $3.5 million. The decision means Jones can stay at his Infowars headquarters in Austin, and Jones quickly went back on the air to applaud the judge's decision. Christopher Matty, a lawyer for the Sandy Hook families, said they were disappointed in the judge's ruling, but they are as determined as ever to hold Jones and his businesses accountable for the harm he caused. Courts have ordered Jones to pay nearly one and a half billion dollars in restitution for falsely calling the 2012 school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut a hoax.
Starting point is 02:37:02 It's not, that's not correct for falsely called. That's, that's not correct. But at least we know it was the Boner pill guy. He like, that must've been a good business. Yeah. Well, Alex was selling a lot of pills and he wanted to keep them selling pills. He was the front man for this guy. Yep.
Starting point is 02:37:23 So they bid one something million and they're like, I can top that. Yeah. Easy enough to do this in a week. We got to, why don't we sell pills? We could be making killing on these pills. And you know what? We're getting to the age where we can say,
Starting point is 02:37:38 hey, I'm taking these pills and look at me. Yeah. I'm still alive. I'm doing great. They use code Bond Gino. Come on on man, it's an exit strategy. Yeah, I don't think so. I can call Alex's boner pill guy. Can you imagine? Yes, actually yes I can. Pod pills, exactly. Pod pills. Yes, I can. Pod pills, exactly. Pod pills.
Starting point is 02:38:06 Europe has this obsession with dying. I'm sorry? Europe has this obsession with dying and assisted suicide. And they're always doing the death pods. Remember that? Oh, yeah. Getting the death pod and they're all like, you know, everybody always wants to die. And now Deutsche Welle had this crazy report on a death doula. Oh, geez. Let's talk about death with Charlotte, a death doula. She's trained to support people through the process of
Starting point is 02:38:42 dying. What I find most touching is really being with dead people and taking care of them when I'm able to make sure that at least the exit of our world is a good one. Charlotte took to TikTok and Instagram aiming to break the taboo surrounding death, fielding all sorts of questions from her community. Experiencing in Germany a situation of death being put behind closed doors. We trust professionals with death. My motivation is that we can trust our instincts to be with our own dead and to empower ourselves. Charlotte has just opened a funeral concept space in Berlin, where she's exhibiting art
Starting point is 02:39:23 dealing with death, like this installation, resemblingling a grave and she showcases sustainable urns. The space is open to everyone who wants to engage with a topic. Starting to have a conversation with your fears around it makes life more meaningful. That's why I would always recommend interacting with your fears around death. She loves being with dead people. She said it. I like being with the dead people and I like helping them. What is with the depression in Europe? Well, I mean just look at them.
Starting point is 02:39:55 What future do they have? I tell Christina all the time, like leave there. Leave. Yes, this is the theme of the show actually. Yes, you need to leave there. This is not good. But there seemed to be a depressed, the culture is all, ever since the EU became the EU. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:11 Yeah. This is when I think it started. Yes. Yeah, but once coffee, you know, a cup of coffee used to be two guilders, then it was two euros, effectively double in price. They got nothing but asylum seekers run wild. The Ukrainians are parking their Range Rovers wherever they want to and getting free housing.
Starting point is 02:40:39 Yeah, people are tired of it, but they don't have the will to really protest it. No, well once you break down the nationalism, I mean at one point people were proud to be Italians and they were proud to be whatever country they were part of and they had their own goods and services and they would do trade and you'd have a Italian made something. It was, it was special. Yeah. Now it's just a bunch of Chinese making bags. Now everything, the Chinese are coming in the back door. Everything's made in China. When I went to, when I was in, last time I was in Madrid, they, I was, it went to the,
Starting point is 02:41:22 I went to one of these farmers markets on a Sunday and then everyone was, all the people that were there complaining, everything, or somebody, a local I was hanging out with, he said, everything here is made, Spanish don't make anything anyway. These are all Chinese goods being sold as handmade goods by Spanish, but they're not. They're all crap from China that they're selling as middlemen. And the Dutch are basically one big accountant's office and post office.
Starting point is 02:41:51 Every single company in the world has a mailbox, and they've got their accountants and their lawyers, and that's all that they are. Oh, and of course, drug trade. They're the biggest drug pass-through country in the world. They don't have any, what are they gonna be proud of? Tulips? I don't know, the biggest drug pass through country in the world. They don't have any, what are they going to be proud of? Tulips? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:42:09 And now we have this going on. This is the clip, farmers in the UK. Oh, now they're angry too? Okay. London packed with hundreds of tractors as farmers call on the British government to rethink an incoming tax. They fear they will lose their family farms and warn the protest could get stronger if the government does not listen to their concerns.
Starting point is 02:42:30 NDD's international correspondent, Malcolm Hudson, has more from London. I wish I could stand on a track to show you just how many there are here. We're right next to Downing Street, the seat of government here in London, and all the way from Parliament down there to Trafalgar Square right on the other end. The road is filled with tractors.
Starting point is 02:42:51 Why, you might be asking, because farmers are here to stand in opposition to new inheritance tax the government seeks to impose upon them. So many tractors that they glitter like Christmas lights. It's the second major protest by farmers in Britain. Agricultural property is currently exempt from inheritance tax, but Britain's government in October announced plans to bring in a 20% tax on land worth over £1 million, or about $1.3 million. It's due to start from April 2026. Protesters say the changes will ruin struggling family farms. We're here to save my dad's farm.
Starting point is 02:43:31 So, yes, yeah, because if this all goes through, my dad's quite elderly as well. We're probably not going to have time to leave it to my brother. And my brother's actually helped my dad pay for the farm. So, yeah, no, it's not... We've all worked on it all our lives. All our lives and our children. Yeah. And my dad pay for the farm. So, yeah, no, it's not. We've all worked on it all our lives. All our lives and our children. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:48 And we want something for the future. Farmers are said to be assets rich, but cash poor. Yeah, I've been following this. You know what the issue is here? Yes, a 20% tax on a 20% inheritance tax, which these guys don't have cash flow. They basically Sub they have a lot of valuable property, but they subs subs. What do you buy? I can't remember the subsidized exact Well, they're they're not maybe they're not rolling in dough. Let's put it that way. So a 20% tax out of the blue
Starting point is 02:44:19 If the old man dies, let's say yeah, and It's not affordable. And so this is a takeover. Cargill and so on. Yes, correct. Factory farms, again, we're talking about here. Correct. And I think they say, well, this is only for rich farmers because I think it's bull crap. Of course it's bull crap.
Starting point is 02:44:39 They said right there anything over $1.3 million in property, that's not that much. No, and they have quite a friend in Jeremy Clarkson, the Top Gear guy. Well, he became a farmer. Well, he's been out there talking a lot. He's been getting a lot of coverage because he's standing up. He's such a man of the people already, because he's hit screw you you know he's such a man of the people already you know because he's just screw you BBC and he's always running around making trouble and and he has that farm show you know he has a some reality show about his farm no I don't know that yeah it's incredibly boring but at least I think
Starting point is 02:45:19 it's boring lots of people think it's a great show we'll see we'll see what happens but you know there's the same thing that's going on in Holland in boring. Lots of people think it's a great show. We'll see. We'll see what happens. But you know, there's the same thing that's going on in Holland and other areas where they're trying to take over the farms. Yeah. They want the farms. This is again, this because of the EU. The EU is no good. It has not helped Europe at all. It's made everything worse. Last time.
Starting point is 02:45:41 What was the purpose of the EU? The idea was to put everybody together so you can make money to compete with the United States and so far as world trade is concerned. But it hasn't worked out. No, it was to control the people. What's the point? It was to control the people. They just didn't know it. They sold it as, hey, you won't need a passport and you all have the same money. And no one figured out that was not a good idea.
Starting point is 02:46:04 Yeah. So Andrew Ross Sorkin, my last clip for today. He's the CNBC boy over there, Andrew Ross Sorkin. New York Times stooge. He is actually, so he has this deal book conference, which is turning into quite a thing. It's kind of like when Kara Swisher gave up her conference business, and I don't know exactly why, I think it was good.
Starting point is 02:46:26 Was it All Things D with Walt Mossberg? Yeah, I think Mossberg just retired. Yeah, she's nothing without Mossberg. I think that's probably correct. She always needs a partner. Yes, she does. So she, and Galloway doesn't want to do it. I don't think he likes her actually.
Starting point is 02:46:44 But the money must be good on that podcast. They't want to do it. I don't think he likes her actually. But the money must be good on that podcast. They keep boasting about it. So I think this Dealbook conference has kind of taken over. Elon famously showed up and said, F you to Michael Eisner. No, yeah, the Disney guy. Is that Eisner? But he said F you to all advertisers.
Starting point is 02:47:04 All advertisers, yeah. Boycotting Twitter. But, so the Sorkin Boy had Alexandra from Call Her Daddy on. Yeah, she's all made up. She's all made up. She's in a very, very short mini skirt, quite inappropriate. I know, she was just dressed in the tens and she looked like a whore. It was anything but it's not her normal look.
Starting point is 02:47:31 And she sounds kind of dumb. There's a little bit of controversy about that podcast. Cause you didn't, do you know about this? No, what? Cause this interview happened in DC. Yeah. In a hotel. Yeah, not in a hotel. It was like a random house. It was like random
Starting point is 02:47:47 house. But apparently, you can tell me they spent, meaning the Harris campaign spent like $100,000. I did. You know about this? It's hilarious. To build the studio. Yeah, that's not true. To make it look like it was the studio that you used in LA. My studio that is gorgeous in Los Angeles doesn't even cost six figures. So I don't know how cardboard walls could cost six figures. But you think they did that? I mean you saw it. Absolutely not. With love to them. Oh my god it was gorgeous but like it wasn't that nice. It wasn't like gorgeous marble. Like no, it was gorgeous, but like it wasn't that nice. It wasn't like
Starting point is 02:48:25 gorgeous marble. Like no, that was not Six Figures. Oh man, this is the problem. This kind of show, it wasn't like it was gorgeous. It was like marble, but it was gorgeous. I loved it. Yeah I saw this clip go by. It was like condemning the Harris campaign for wasting money is what it amounted to. I guess they just wasted so much money all over the place that it's really turned off a lot of Democrat donors. Tina made a good point.
Starting point is 02:48:58 She said, where is our vice president? Is she not working for us anymore? Did she just give up? Where is she? Is she in the for us anymore? Did she just give up and, and where is she? Is she in the spa? Where is she? We don't seem to have a vice president. I thought that was... We don't have a president either for that matter. Spike and the Ball. And we have John's Tip of the Day on the way along with some great end of show mixes. We have some good meet-up, we got a meet-up promo, we got some meet-ups to talk about
Starting point is 02:49:38 and we even have a night in today I believe. But first we would like to thank all of our producers, $50 and above, who've supported this episode, episode 1720. Okay. Let's start with the Baronet Tess, Elizabeth and Pukepsi, Pukepsi, Pukepsi, Pukepsi, New York 15103. And, uh, she wanted some jobs, karma. And we, I read what she says here. It's interesting.
Starting point is 02:50:11 During her 10th anniversary special, we asked her some jobs, karma, and we both landed major changes in employment. Now we both need karma again. And we know it because we know it works. She wants some karma. We'll give you that. Yeah, for sure You know with the karma working and all, you know, you probably should have come in with more just not that I'm condemning you at all Vi counts her hugger of kitties our buddy in Zondam. Yes, Paul in Netherlands
Starting point is 02:50:40 He came in with 13462 and he's got a birthday for himself. And, and he said, uh, he said something in Dutch here. Hey Adam, good morning. I'm happy with you. I'm an Earl for a long time. I always sleep very badly. That's why I get chaotic.
Starting point is 02:50:58 Three donations from today were well overrated and meant. And tomorrow I'm going to be a year old. So it's his birthday. Uh, today I think. Well overwogen en gemeend en morgen ben ik jarig. It's at the top there. You've got the addition. Oh, yes. Okay. Yeah, there he is. He did come in with 8008 and somewhere else with 5454. So what he's saying is he should be an associate executive producer. He just donated three separate times. And I see that he donated three separate times. But I guess that didn't quite come through on the...
Starting point is 02:51:49 Well, it would have been added up and put into one. Usually that's what Jay would do. Yeah, but he's... We'll move him up. Yeah, we should. Because here he's Sir Viscount of... Viscount Sir Hugger of Kitties. And then he's down here with 8008 as Arthur Goebbets and again as
Starting point is 02:52:05 Arthur Goebbets so okay we're moving you up brother we're moving you up. He's just making it her life's a mess. Well he says he's chaotic he says I'm I haven't been sleeping well and I'm chaotic so please. Okay well that's a good excuse as any. Yes. Okay 13333 comes in from Greg Hoy a hoy hoy hoy in Pacifica, California Dame Rita sparks, Nevada one two, three, four five She does have a note. You're the best. There you go Sasha Landis in Port Townsend Washington one one one dot two three. Oh Dame at least Garling hit her in the mouth
Starting point is 02:52:44 Yeah in 2014. Where is Elyse? I think she is not doing well health-wise. I heard. Yeah. Yeah. The whole Garling family needs, we need to hear from them. Donation or not, just need to hear from them. Ron in Colorado and Colorado Springs, 100. Kevin McLaughlin, 8008. There's Arthur, and he's by the way, the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs. Arthur, he should be moved up from Archduke by now.
Starting point is 02:53:15 He unites the ice now. Arthur Gobitz, there he is, Zandam, 8008, it's his birthday, we got it. Wendy Brahman in Saginaw, Michigan, 275. Daniel King in Santa Rosa, 69. Reed Lajala in Dollar Bay, Michigan, 6666. John Tucker in Omaha, Omaha, Nebraska, 5510. Sir Tom Dary in DeForest, Wisconsin, 5510. Troy Funderburke in Missoula, Montana, 55. There's Arthur again in Zandt, okay, 5454, okay, there he is.
Starting point is 02:54:02 Baron Anonymous Copper, buddy there in Redwood City, California. Fellow Ham 5150. Bad Idea Supply. Now we don't know where they are, but you can look them up on the internet. Bad Idea Supply. They make all kinds of burning equipment. 5050. And now we go to William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas at $50.
Starting point is 02:54:23 These are all 50. So I'm going to just name and location as we go through them, starting with Stephen Schumach in Zinnia, Ohio, Michelle Patty in Grand Forks, North Dakota. Just jumped, there we go. Simon Aronowitz in North Wembley, UK. That's nice. Mike Moon in Athens Georgia Tim DelVecchio
Starting point is 02:54:47 and Blandon Pennsylvania Andrew Grasso in miniola New York no agenda merch dot-com that's no agenda merch dot-com use code ITM for free shipping. Hold on a second what is this no agenda merch? I never heard of them. We haven't sanctioned noagendamurch.com. Check them out. Gary Ma... I'm going to finish. Gary Ma... No agenda fudge, you know. There you go. Gary Ma in Woodland Hills is a $50 donor.
Starting point is 02:55:19 Then we have here, Stephen Ng. And this is a... he's going to be a knight. I'm going to have you read this after I finished the $50 donors. Gary Jackson in Waterton, Tennessee, Jason Deluzio in Miami beach. Leanne Shipley, our buddy in Covington, Washington, Harry Klan in Aledo, Texas. And last on the list is Walker Phillips in San Rafael, California. Okay. So I looked at NoAgendaMerch.com and they're selling stickers for $5 a pop.
Starting point is 02:56:00 And I don't think I know anything about NoAgendaMerch.com, but the thing about NoAgendaShop.com is we know that they give a portion to the artist. And I don't know if these are this person's own merch, and also the shop from time to time will donate something to the show. So, I don't know. I'm on the fence about this. Well, he's going to write you a note
Starting point is 02:56:24 explaining what he's up to Okay, just let us know what you're up to please. No him Adam at curry.com so Stephen Eng is in Box Elder, South Dakota and His box is blue here on the spreadsheet. That means good news for him I TM John and Adam with my donation on the December 11th I should have donated enough to achieve knighthood and I would like to be knighted Sir5ing. That's how I pronounce her right? NG5ing. Ing of the Lander Valley. Yes, Sir5ing. I'm 62 and I've been eating 95% carnivore for 2024 and have never felt better in my life, both physically and mentally. So at the roundtable, I would like mutton.
Starting point is 02:57:05 That is a big fatty piece of mutton. Here's wishing you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Be gods, he says. Be gods. Survive Ing. Wonderful. Thank you all very much. Thank you to everyone who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity.
Starting point is 02:57:22 We will never read those. And of course, we have the sustaining donations, particularly on lower days. We love it when we have something to fall back on. You can go to noagendadonations.com and you can put in any amount you want, make it a recurring donation, any frequency, any amount is value for value.
Starting point is 02:57:38 It's up to you. Noagendadonations.com. Again, that is noagendadonations.com. Here's the jobs karma as requested earlier. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Noagendadonations.com. And we congratulate DJ Sphinx who turns 35 years old today.
Starting point is 02:58:06 Sir Plane Crash is turning 54 today. Chris wishes Dame Jen of Idaho a very happy birthday. She will turn 33, the magic number on the 14th. And Viscount Sir Hugger of Kitties is celebrating his birthday. We say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe! Title changes, turn and face the slaves. Title changes, don't want to be a douchebag. Not exactly a title change, but I've decided to play the jingle because Sir Robert Mullenweg should be known as Sir John Baptist because when he became an incident last year, he forgot to give us his preferred title
Starting point is 02:58:49 So he says I'm going to get I think I'm going to get one of them rings you got Well, yes, you should let us know and we'll send you off the one of them rings go to know agenda rings calm Thank you for correcting. It will not correct dance Thank you for letting us know that you want to be known as Sir John Baptist and we appreciate that now we have Steven Ing if you can get out your blade we have one singular Come on up You counted it right and you took your time, which is how it works It's all an aggregated amount over as many years as you need to reach
Starting point is 02:59:25 knighthood status. I'm very proud to pronounce Kate B as Sir 5 Ing of the Lander Valley. For you, my friend, we have hookers and blow, rent boys and Chardonnay, prostitutes and cigars, cookies and vodka, warm beer and cold women. We have fish pie and fellatio, redheads and rye, beer and blunts. We got Rubenets, Women and Rose, Gates and Nsake, Vodka, Manila, Bong, Henson Bourbon, Sparkling, Saturn, Escorts, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, we have breast milk and pablum, and a big fatty piece of mutton and mead as requested.
Starting point is 02:59:57 Head over to NoAgendaRings.com, give us your ring size, there's a handy ring sizing guide right there, and give us an address, we'll send it off to you. With the wax to seal your important correspondence because they are Cignet rings and a certificate of authenticity thank you again and welcome to the roundtable brand new night of the no agenda show I do not have any meetup reports and we always like receiving them but I can mention we have
Starting point is 03:00:29 two meetups happening today. One at 630 the Denver Christmas Kwanzaa Kadonka meetup at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver Colorado and underway now the fourth amygdala checkup 733 is when it kicked off in Amsterdam so they're probably a toasty by now that's in Leiden actually Stotz Brauhaus expect an inebriated report from them on Saturday the South Jersey meetup Bret's Revenge one o'clock at Miller's Ale House in Mount Laurel Township New Jersey flight of the no agenda number 58 Leo Bravo does it again at 3.33 p.m. at Boomtown Brewery in Los Angeles, California. The Eagle Idaho Christmas Meetup at 4 o'clock in the Old State Saloon.
Starting point is 03:01:15 That's a new location by the way in Eagle Idaho, the Old State Saloon. On Sunday our next show, ITM Brunch on the River near RVA this in the morning 1030 a.m. the Boathouse at City Point in Hopewell Virginia and also on Sunday the West Palm Beach Axe Throwing. Ah this is the Reiki Princess. The Axe Throwing at 2 o'clock in Grandview Public Market in West Palm Beach also on Sunday the Black Hills No Agenda meetup at 3 o'clock and Crow Peak Brewing Spearfish South Dakota. And finally on Sunday, the Indy and a Christmas pitch in meetup Southern style 3 o'clock. And that is invite only this time. It's I think it's at Mark and Maria's house, Sir Mark Day Marie of the Greenwood. So you need to contact them
Starting point is 03:02:00 for details. And I believe I have a promo here from the Rakey Princess. In the morning Florida producers, it's the Rakey Princess and I just wanted to personally invite you to our December to Remember meetup. It's our Game of Axes meetup where we'll be throwing axes and knives. This coming Sunday December 15th at 2 p.m. in West Palm Beach, Florida. We'll be right next to the Brightline station if you did want to take the train but it's gonna be so much fun. We'll be throwing axes and knives. I'll personally be drinking a lot of tequila so please come join us. It's gonna be like a party. Axes, knives, and tequila. What could possibly go wrong? Hey NoahJentonMeetups.com to find the one near you. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you want me.
Starting point is 03:02:52 Triggered or held alight. You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. What a great idea. That's Florida for you. Tequila, axes, knives. It's a perfect combo. Again, I'm kind of falling down on everything. I don't get this with you. Because I'm too busy looking at the, you know, the Psyop season.
Starting point is 03:03:23 I'm doing work. Yeah, but there's, there's clips. There's, there's, there's end of show clips within those clips. Well, how about this one? I think that thing is on the Fritz. On the Fritz. I got an on the Fritz. Yay.
Starting point is 03:03:35 Oh, yay. Yay. All right. What you got? I got three. All right. I think they're all good. Okay.
Starting point is 03:03:41 Let's start with end. The end. Goodbye. Okay. Okay. start with end the end. Goodbye Okay Okay, you didn't like that over it's all right. It's all right. I'm just saying it's better than mine Here we go over the show is over now. Go home. No, I like that one a lot. Yeah Look another one. I like is. Yeah. No. Yeah. No. Yeah No, I like the show is over. Now go home. I like that one. Okay.
Starting point is 03:04:06 I like it. Yeah, like that's that's good for me. And now everybody is time for the moment you've all been waiting for it is Jon C. Dvorak's tip of the day. Created by Dana Brunetti. Sometimes Adam. I'm not forgetting. Where's your jingles? I didn't forget. I didn't forget. It's coming. It's coming. It's Hollywood style. I didn't forget to do the jingles. All right.
Starting point is 03:04:31 So my tip of the day today is and this is an irksome tip. Irksome tip everybody. Because if you remember Jambo Joe, Oh! Our buddy who... Yes, Jambo Joe who, Ed Mevio you mean? No, Jambo Joe, the guy who made the CBD and he's got the CBD sprays. Jambo Jim, Jam-
Starting point is 03:04:53 Whatever happened to Jambo Joe? He's still around. He got, well here's what happened. He was making the CBD stuff. He actually got put out of business by Rogan. No. It wasn't that Rogan meant to put him out of business. But Rogan had a product that competed with him. No, no.
Starting point is 03:05:11 Rogan plugged him, swamped him with so much business, got the attention of the feds, he had some packaging violations. Oh no. He didn't put this thing here. He didn't move this there. And so he, and he had a bunch of stuff manufactured. He had to relabel everything. And it became, he actually from, this is the problem with super success. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:05:36 And then Rogan has to be careful about this. He became so successful overnight that it put him out of business. Oh, that is so, and he was, he was rocking it. I remember he was really doing good. He's a great entrepreneur. Now, if you remember him from 10 years earlier, he's the one who put together these snack packs that he gave us both subscriptions to. I forgot about this. Yeah. And he would do a monthly snack pack and it was a bunch of screwball snacks that he'd
Starting point is 03:06:09 dug up from around the country and put them in a box and sent them out. He had a name for it. This guy is really talented. Entrepreneur. The thing about this, CBD is really depressing because he had good product. In in fact, like Rogan liked the stuff. Did he like maybe have some, some CBD slash THC stuff going on? Maybe that was the problem. Well, there was, he did have, definitely have some combos. Yeah. Yeah. I remember this. And you had, and they were good. They were high quality.
Starting point is 03:06:40 He also had like teeth pulling oil. He had all kinds of stuff. If I don't remember the teeth pulling oil. He had all kinds of stuff if I remember the teeth pulling oil Whatever So so the back is kind of a tribute to him even though these other companies and I believe it's only one company doing both These products but there's two companies you should look into for Christmas giving These guys do that they take in his idea And there's two websites. One is universal yums, universal yums,
Starting point is 03:07:13 and the other one is trytheworld.com. And these are both snack companies that find, they go to France and they put together a snack box of stuff, weird snacks from France. And you get that box the next month, you get a box from Greece. The next box of the month, you get a box from North Korea. It costs about 25 bucks a box. Can you use a code bond, you know, to get a discount? I don't have any codes or anything, but you can get 20% off today.
Starting point is 03:07:43 If you do the right search. But these websites, these two websites are so similar that I have to believe it's the same company doing just marketing slightly differently. It's like test marketing. It's a very creative way to do things nowadays. Yeah, but these are worth the while if you like screwball snacks.
Starting point is 03:08:06 I mean, if you go to like local, like we have a Japanese store nearby and go there and get Japanese snacks and they're all entertaining. They're different. There's something you don't get anyplace else, but these guys package them up for you. Now, have you received the French snacks yet? Have you received? No, I have not done any of this. I just looked over these sites. I found out about them and thought this was a good idea. But it's a tip that you haven't tried. I can see what it is. It's the same as Jambo did. But what is a French snack? Is it like caramel snails? No, it's the same kind of candies and stuff. I mean, it's on the site. You can see what they are. They list them very, you know, it's the same kind of candies and stuff. I mean, it's on the site. You can see what they are. They list them very, you know, you see what's going on.
Starting point is 03:08:49 Well, I think when it comes to tip of the day, it should be a tip that you or I have actually used. I mean, I don't think there's a rule like that. Well, I'm making the rule. I'm making the rule that I haven't tasted the French snacks. Yes, because I'm skeptical about the tastiness of the French snacks. Having been to France. I am not skeptical. This has been, these products look good to me.
Starting point is 03:09:10 I've had these snacks when I travel around the world, a lot of them. I'm just surprised they don't have Swedish because Sweden seems to be the country with the most snacks. Well, I feel tip of the day should be something that people can judge for themselves. Don't listen. You know, if you want to take over this segment, I don't want to take over. I'm just complaining. I'm a consumer of the segment. I want to know that I don't want to risk getting a crappy snack. No, you don't want to risk getting more notes. Say, I tried this, this stinks. John's full of shit.
Starting point is 03:09:48 Adam at curry.com. Tipoftheday.net everybody. This is brought to you by the maker of 50 Shades of Grey. I have to do so many things now for this tip of the day. It's like actual work taking place. I'll make the jingle that works it out. Got to credit Brunetti. You know, got to make sure that you're giving us tips.
Starting point is 03:10:18 I'm going to get some of these French snacks and I'll see if I like them. And I do not want to take over this segment. It's a great segment, John. People are excited. They listen all the way to the end of the show. Well, let's hope so. They do. We give them a good show. We give good shows. I don't understand why we don't get more donations. Because that's the only way we can do this show, people. That's right.
Starting point is 03:10:46 Remember us, noagenthedonations.com. We don't sell pills. That. End of show mix is from Jeffrey Crocker, a clip custodian, Neil Jones, a Professor Jade Jones, not related, from China. And I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in Fredericksburg. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley,
Starting point is 03:11:06 where we're getting some sprinkles today. Good for us, I'm John C. Dvorak. Coming up next on No Agenda Stream and the Modern Podcast apps, abs in a six pack. It's episode 254, enjoy that and remember us, NoAgendaDonations.com, until Sunday, adios, mo foes. A hooey, hooey, and such. This was sent to be an awkward and an obnoxious
Starting point is 03:11:29 and obvious thing. I have to stop for a second. My prompter operator is racing through this like they don't want to hear anything that I'm second right now. Though it's really about you, not Cuomo. If you want to do that, do your thing. Move the prompter back up. Pretend you're paying attention. Keep rolling up. Get up, get up. Yes. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Let's go, y' keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going,
Starting point is 03:12:07 keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, far off. Yes. Never mind. kamikaze drones kamikaze drones kamikaze drones kamikaze drones These are lethal drones. Comikaze drones. Comikaze drones. Comikaze drones. I have two words for you.
Starting point is 03:13:00 Predator drones. You will never see it coming. These are not US military drones. You will never see it coming. These are not US military drones. Drone sightings over New Jersey, it's near sensitive. Where have those drone sightings that have been reported? At no point were our installations threatened. Iran launched a mothership. She let him hit it. Iran launched a mothership.
Starting point is 03:13:31 These are not drones or activities coming from a foreign entity or adversary. I have two words for you. And there's no so-called mothership? There is not any truth to that. Mothership is off the east coast of the United States. There is not any truth to that. Iran launched a mothership. Mothership is off the East Coast of the United States. There is not any truth to that. And there's no so-called mothership. No so-called mothership. She let him hit it. It's just me and the ball. These are not drones or activities coming from before an entity or adversary.
Starting point is 03:14:10 The ROM launched a mothership. The mothership connection. At no point were our installations threatened. She let him hit it. There is not any truth to that. Put it in your gloves. You will never see it coming. So what in the world is this?
Starting point is 03:14:28 At no point were our installations threatened. Let them get it. So what in the world is this? Mothership is off the east coast of the United States. So what in the world is this, I have two words for you. These are not drones or activities coming from a foreign entity or adversary. The best podcast in the universe. Adios, mofo.
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