No Agenda - 1722 - "This Actually Happened!"

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, December 19, 2024. This is your award-winning Gilman Nation Media Assassination Episode 1722. This is No Agenda. Bangin' eggnog and broadcasting live, almost live, from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm here avoiding the spike protein, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm here avoiding the spike protein.
Starting point is 00:00:27 I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Yes everybody, welcome to episode 1722, a best of, but we're here to get you ready for it. As I am traveling to my sister for the holidays. This is something different. Well, not really different, but something that I think is timely, this one. They're all timely.
Starting point is 00:00:56 We did a climate change one. It's kind of evergreen timely. Yeah, but this particular one, which Strokey Bill put together for us in two parts, takes us all the way back to the very beginning of COVID, actually comes in with, I believe it starts with the testing and man, remember that testing? Yeah, then we talked about the spinning it, spin it up. How many of those kits do you still have? How many of those test kits do you still have at the house? Well, these are the kits that came in later.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I have probably two or three cases of them because they always give them away. They're giving them away free and when you order a batch from the government or from your local pharmacy, they give you five or six of them. They're useless, but they're kind of decorative. Well, I mean, just look at now. I mean, Tina and I take ivermectin weekly. Well, you know, it was hydroxychloroquine that was the first obscure drug that
Starting point is 00:01:56 came into the conversation. Right. That's right. I forgot about it. Don't forget that. Hydroxychloroquine. As soon as Trump mentioned it, it was verboten. Cause this was the era we have to always remember.
Starting point is 00:02:07 It's kind of hard to, but it's all I have to remember because it's so long ago, that whatever Trump did, they did the opposite. So Trump suggests Ivermectin, I'm sorry, he suggests hydroxychloroquine, and so it's bad. And then Ivermectin came into the conversation later and it became bad too. Horse-paced. What are you doing? You crazy people. So this this particular best of warning trigger warning you could get all mad all over again and listening to it because you just hear how crazy it was and what we lived through and congratulations if you're listening to this episode because you lived, you lived through it. You probably lived through it with us.
Starting point is 00:02:47 So let's get started right now with part one of the best if there's such a thing of COVID. CBS2 has learned that an army of NYPD officers will fan out across the city this weekend to make sure that people are wearing masks and maintaining social distance. CBS2's Marcia Kramer has this exclusive story. You might say it's no more Mr. Nice Guy. The NYPD will be out in force at parks, beaches and playgrounds this weekend to make sure New Yorkers don't get up close
Starting point is 00:03:22 and personal with each other. that everyone observes social distancing. We're past the point of warnings. This is a dangerous situation. NYPD chief of department Terrence Monahan telling me that New Yorkers drawn out of their homes by the expected sunny skies and warm temperatures this weekend, we'll see a large police presence, 1,000 cops all five bor, to keep New Yorkers safe by trying to stop the spread of COVID-19. Barbecues with large gatherings of people together,
Starting point is 00:03:51 organized sports events, people hanging together, trying to drink or something along those lines. We will be breaking these up. We will be actively involved. People who are just walking together, exercising on a blanket with their family, those aren't people we're going to bother. If they don't have a mask, we'll give them masks. Will you really arrest people? If they confront us, if it becomes
Starting point is 00:04:15 an incident, yes we will. If it has to be, yes. I hope it never comes to that though, Marcia. People should understand just how dangerous a virus this is. We will shut you down, we will cite you, and if we need to, we will arrest you and we will take you to jail. Period. There should be nothing unambiguous about that. Don't make us treat you like a criminal. But if you act like a criminal and you violate the law and you refuse to do what is necessary to save lives in the city in the middle of a pandemic, we will take you to jail, period. Mayor Lightfoot facing criticism tonight after getting her hair done. A photo surfaced of the mayor with a hairdresser, but she appeared to ignore social distancing efforts standing right next to them for the picture. When asked about that photo today this is what the mayor had to say. I'm the public face of the city. I'm on
Starting point is 00:05:13 national media and I'm out in the public eye and you know I'm a I'm a person who I take my personal hygiene very seriously. As I said, I felt like I needed to have a haircut. I'm not able to do that myself and so I got a haircut. Want to talk more about that? Part of the criticism came from the fact that the mayor had called on people not to go out and get their hair done in one of her Stay Home Save Lives PSA. Necessary for new members to function properly in the society they are being inducted into are all imbued at this time. Repetition is typical as its use helps hammer the spell home.
Starting point is 00:05:56 The wearing of masks may be required. Masking has traditionally played an important role in rituals of this kind, enabling and hastening the suppression of ego to help facilitate a death of the old identity before the identification with and manifestation of a new one. Disguised under a mask and hidden away, the initiate is more easily able to transcend the self, pushed further toward that invisible line between the physical and spiritual realms. I'm sure you've seen in a number of polls, there's a huge difference between Democrats and Republicans over whether or not they think it's necessary to wear a mask in public. Do you have any sense as to why that would be? No sense as to why that would be.
Starting point is 00:06:39 That's the choice of the American public, it's the choice of the individual as to whether to wear a mask or not. But again, I'd praise the extraordinary work of this administration in distributing those masks and ensuring healthcare providers get them. The idea of shutting everybody down is a new idea that was developed in the 2006 Bush administration provisional plan on pandemics
Starting point is 00:07:02 based on a high school student's science project. So the idea that this is the way to go, shutting everything down, is not true. It's not scientifically true. It may be superior, but we don't know yet. So it may just be that when we go back to masks and social distancing in the world, there will be no uptick in the cases. So this idea of a second wave may never happen. Now, we will have some uptick, some little outbreaks.
Starting point is 00:07:29 But the idea will be to isolate and contain those outbreaks. While this lockdown has been going on, I know from communications to me and Gaz and Jamie at DavidEight.com. I know from all the postings on the internet, not just in Britain, but around the world in America, that while this lockdown has been going on, 5G masts are being rolled out at a very rapid rate. In the same period of this lockdown,
Starting point is 00:08:06 something like another 21 towns and cities have been opened in Britain to 5G. 5G is being rolled out all over the world at a very great rate of knots. This is a time where everything is supposed to be stopped. Yeah. And they're still building towers overnight. Yes, because that's considered essential work. Do you think that Dr. Fauci played a part in COVID-19 then? Do you think that he should be held accountable or responsible or
Starting point is 00:08:40 criminally responsible for the corruption with COVID-19 or even tracing back as far as 30 plus years? Oh, absolutely. He should be held criminally responsible all the way back to the spread of HIV AIDS through the country. At the same time, he did the same thing he's doing now in COVID-19, that is prevent the use of therapies like hydroxychloroquine or type 1, low dose type 1 interferon alpha or any number of natural things.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Prevent people from doing the appropriate testing. The FDA didn't do the appropriate serology testing that would have shown that in fact the virus had been through this country earlier than thought and we may have actually had in many places a natural herd immunity that isn't occurring with the lockdown and that people aren't being prevented from, you know, even if they were exposed, from getting the disease with prophylactic measures. That's preventative measures like hydroxychloroquine. And all the same time promoting drug use
Starting point is 00:09:55 in research and clinical trials, which he's also doing a similar thing to what he did, what he directed to be done in the case of the XMRVs. That's fraudulent studies that show that a drug works when it really doesn't work and how they manipulate the study design in order to drag it out. And then, because we're not developing a natural herd immunity, the amount of disease and death that's being caused while people are, while he's promoting measures that not only don't work, but have caused literally the devastation of our economy and we won't even be able to count the number of deaths from people who couldn't get adequate care
Starting point is 00:10:45 for things like cancer and cardiovascular disease. Just simple care for things that have nothing to do with COVID-19. As we come on the air tonight, coronavirus infections are still growing in much of the country. Just as we're learning, there is now a more powerful mutant strain of the virus
Starting point is 00:11:03 that is even more difficult to treat. There are now more than 20,000 new confirmed cases every day here in the United States. And while cases are declining in the New York City area, the epicenter of the crisis, elsewhere the rate of infection is rising. Still 44 states are moving forward with lifting restrictions. And tonight President Trump is acknowledging those moves to reopen could lead to even more deaths, telling reporters today that Americans should, quote, think of themselves as warriors.
Starting point is 00:11:32 COVID-19 remains a threat, but there's a drive to get out, to get back to normal. Well, AHS says there's now an app that could help. Providing this information voluntarily is crucial to our work to prevent the spread of COVID-19. Alberta Trace Together is the first contact tracing app available in North America. Every time users pass one another, their phones record the encounter using Bluetooth. Encrypted data will be stored on the phone. Now if one of those users tests positive for COVID-19,
Starting point is 00:12:02 the user can upload their interactions to AHS and a contact tracer would call the numbers the phone registered telling them to self-isolate. Like bringing a camera into focus, these techniques give us a far clearer picture that help us to inform our actions going forward. Now the app stores only phone numbers, no locations, it doesn't use GPS, but tracking still raises privacy questions. Alberta's privacy commissioner says she has been involved and she supports enhanced contact tracing.
Starting point is 00:12:31 In a statement, she adds, in my view, Alberta Health has chosen a less intrusive approach in deploying this app. President Trump is lashing out against a new advertisement by a Republican-led group called The Lincoln Project, calling out his mismanagement of the coronavirus pandemic. The one-minute ad is titled, Mourning in America, spin on Ronald Reagan's 1984 campaign slogan. There's mourning in America. And under the leadership of Donald Trump, our country is weaker and sicker and poorer. And now, Americans are asking, if we have another four years like this, will there even
Starting point is 00:13:13 be an America? That morning, an America ad spelled M-O-U-R-N-I-N-G. In a series of angry tweets posted just after midnight Tuesday morning, Trump attacked the makers of the ad, singling out George Conway, longtime Trump critic, husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway. Trump tweeted, quote, I don't know what Kellyanne did to her deranged loser of a husband, Moonface, but it must have been really bad, Trump tweeted. CBS's Mola Lenghi is going to lead us off tonight in New York City.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Mola? Well, Nora, while deaths in New York are down significantly from their peak just a few weeks ago, we're still losing more than 200 people a day to this virus. So many that bodies are being stored in makeshift morgues like those white refrigerator trucks that you see behind me there. And that is why there is so much hope in this experimental new vaccine that could be ready by this fall. We certainly hope so. I want to put up a quote from Governor Cuomo in New York, which sort of had some surprising information in it. He said, 66% of the people who were in new cases were at home, which is shocking to us.
Starting point is 00:14:23 He said, this is a surprise. Overwhelmingly, the people were at home. We thought maybe they were taking public transportation, and we've taken special precautions. But actually, no, these people were literally at home, 66 percent of the new cases. How does that happen? Well, generally speaking, patients report, and this has been well established, better and safer behaviors than reality. So people report that they may be staying at home.
Starting point is 00:14:46 But in fact, we know 600 people got the infection during pretty harsh sheltering conditions in the New York area. How did that happen? That means they got the infection during the extreme measures. So we know the drivers of this infection. We know what they are. They're mass gatherings. They're travel.
Starting point is 00:15:02 They're people working in confined areas. They're people with direct contact. And we know that 20% of those admissions to the hospital were in nursing homes. We're seeing now in meatpacking areas, those that work in confined areas, especially with high risk individuals, that is one of our major battles,
Starting point is 00:15:19 is dealing with the outbreaks in these challenged areas. Yeah, all right. We'll talk to you again soon. Dr. Marta McCary, thank you very much. Good to have you here tonight. Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks. You're sure of it, because people are listening really closely to this.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Right now people should not be walking. There's no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And often there are unintended consequences. People keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face. And can you get some?
Starting point is 00:16:08 Schmutz sort of staying inside there of course of course But when you think masks you should think of health care providers needing them and people who are ill and a 56-foot Billboard called the Trump death clock has been unveiled in Times Square here in New York The billboard was created by the Oscar-nominated filmmaker Eugene Jurecki. So, the Trump death clock is a billboard that hangs over Times Square, and what it shows is an estimate of the number of U.S. COVID-19 deaths that resulted from the president and his team's failed response to the coronavirus outbreak. Thanks to Dr. Fauci and leading epidemiologists, we now know that had the mitigation guidelines been put into effect just one week earlier, on March 9th instead of March 16th, 60 percent of U.S. COVID-19 deaths would have been prevented.
Starting point is 00:16:53 That's an incredible number. And on behalf of all those who needlessly lost their lives to this failed leadership in a pandemic, we need a symbol, a symbol that cries out not only for accountability, but also for more responsible and responsive stewardship going forward. At the time of this broadcast, the Trump death clock stands at 46,485 and growing. This is the New York City Police Department. Non-essential gatherings of any kind have been prohibited by the governor and the mayor. This gathering is unlawful and you are ordered to disperse. If you fail to disperse immediately, you are subject to arrest. In my lifetime, this will be the greatest economic hit.
Starting point is 00:17:41 But you don't have a choice. People act like you have a choice. People don't feel like going to the stadium when they might get infected. You know, it's not the government who's saying, okay, just ignore this disease. And, you know, people are deeply affected by seeing these deaths by knowing they could be part of the transmission chain and old people, their parents, their grandparents could be affected by this. And so you don't get to say, ignore what's going on here. There will be the ability, particularly in rich countries, to open up if things are done well over the next few months. But for the world at large, normalcy only returns when we've largely vaccinated the
Starting point is 00:18:33 entire global population. And so, you know, although there's a lot of work on testing, a lot of work on drugs that we're involved with, you know, trying to achieve that ambitious goal, which has never been done for the vaccine, that rises to the top of the list. All right, what do we got here? We've got, oh, look at, look at this, look closely at this. That's a restaurant that's using mannequins to fill out the half empty dining room. What's the story behind this one, Ash? dining room. What's the story behind this one Ash? This is the Inn at Little Washington in Washington, Virginia. It's no ordinary restaurant. It's a Michelin three-star restaurant. To get a table here, it
Starting point is 00:19:14 is very coveted, so rather than leave them open, the owners of the restaurant said, let's put in the mannequins. Very well dressed I may add. Three-piece suits, ties, hats, nice dresses for the ladies, even if the company is a little lifeless. But by the way, the tasting menu, tasting menu is $248. So I hope you get more than fried chicken and fish and chips. I want a mannequin. That's what I want. On Capitol Hill, House Democratic leaders have unveiled a massive 1,800-page coronavirus relief package worth $3 trillion.
Starting point is 00:19:50 The so-called HEROES Act would fund expanded unemployment benefits through January 2021, send most U.S. adults another one-time $1,200 stimulus check, and provide $1 trillion in assistance to hard-hit state, local and tribal governments. It would also expand SNAP food benefits, fund hazard pay for frontline workers, increase funding for COVID-19 testing and provide $25 billion in funding to the U.S. Postal Service. The bill would not expand Medicare to cover millions of newly uninsured Americans, nor does it provide for rent and mortgage relief or recurring cash payments to U.S. households.
Starting point is 00:20:32 The bill would expand the Paycheck Protection Program to bail out corporate lobbyist firms. Climate activists say the bill also fails to close loopholes for big polluters. Greenpeace USA tweeted, quote, fossil fuel CEOs will be rejoicing that Congress has once again left the door wide open for handouts to struggling mismanaged oil and gas corporations. But you agree that the stimulus should move forward? There's been some Republicans who suggest that—
Starting point is 00:21:01 I don't know. It depends. Certainly not the package that I saw today. Basically, if you look at that package, what they want more than anything else is a... It's a voting package. They want to be able to make sure that Republicans can't win an election by putting in all sorts of... mailing ballots. Now, that's the problem with mail-in ballots. Are they going to dump a whole pile of ballots on your desk just before the election? Tonight, the FBI and federal cybersecurity agents are warning that
Starting point is 00:21:47 hackers linked to the Chinese government are trying to steal research on coronavirus vaccines and therapies. The FBI says the potential theft could jeopardize the treatment of patients here in the US. Here's CBS chief justice and Homeland Security correspondent Jeff Begay's. While the coronavirus was sweeping across parts of China in January, U.S. officials say Chinese hackers were already focused on the United States, trying to steal research from universities and pharmaceutical companies that were working on a cure. John Demers is the Assistant Attorney General for National Security.
Starting point is 00:22:22 The Chinese for years have targeted biomedical research and there's nothing more important than COVID-19 research right now in that field. The hacking charges ratcheted up tensions over the virus between the U.S. and China. What should have been stopped at the source, which was China. But it's not just China. Iran is also on the attack. Researchers at the cybersecurity company Recorded Future say the Iranian state targeted an executive at Gilead Sciences, the manufacturer of the promising coronavirus treatment drug Remdesivir.
Starting point is 00:22:55 The Demers said China is desperate to be first with the vaccine. You call this a holy grail of information that these foreign hackers are going after? There's nothing more important right now than these treatments and perhaps most significantly for China for geopolitical value to be able to say that they were the first to develop a vaccine. Tonight in a statement, Chinese officials said the accusations were without evidence, but U.S. officials say anyone working on a vaccine should be on hyper alert.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Margaret. Yeah, go ahead, please. You said many times that the U.S. is doing far better than any other country when it comes to testing. Yes. Why does that matter? Why is this a global competition to you if every day Americans are still losing their lives and we're still seeing more cases every day?
Starting point is 00:23:51 Well they're losing their lives everywhere in the world and maybe that's a question you should ask China. Don't ask me, ask China that question, okay? When you ask them that question you may get a very unusual answer. Yes behind you, please Sir why are you saying that to me specifically? I'm telling you I'm not saying it specifically to anybody. I'm saying it to anybody that would ask a nasty question I said, please go ahead Okay, anybody else please go ahead in the back, please No, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:24:25 But you pointed to me. I have two questions, Mr. President. Next. Next, please. You called on me. I did, and you didn't respond, and now I'm calling on the young lady in the back, please. I just wanted to let my colleague finish. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. There's an approach called the RNA vaccine that people like Moderna, CureVac, and others are using that in 2015 we'd identified that as very promising for pandemics and for other applications as well. And so if everything
Starting point is 00:25:04 goes perfectly with the RNA approach, we could actually beat the 18 months. We don't want to create unrealistic expectations. The efficacy of vaccines in older people is always a huge challenge. You know, it turns out the flu vaccine isn't that effective in elderly people. Most of the benefit comes from younger people not spreading it because they're vaccinated and that benefits on a community basis the elderly. Here we clearly need a vaccine that works in the upper age range because they're most
Starting point is 00:25:39 at risk of that. Doing that so that you amp it up so it works in older people, and yet you don't have side effects. If we have one in 10,000 side effects, that's way more, 700,000 people who will suffer from that. Really understanding the safety at gigantic scale across all age ranges, you know, pregnant, male, female, undernourished, existing comorbidities, it's very, very hard. And that actual decision of, okay, let's go and give this vaccine to the entire world,
Starting point is 00:26:20 governments will have to be involved because there will be some risk and indemnification needed before that can be decided on. Taking on coronavirus in hard-hit communities of color. Join Don Lemon and Van Jones with Dr. Regina Benjamin and Robert Smith. Plus, messages of hope from Mario Lopez, Samuel L. Jackson and more. The Color of COVID, live tomorrow at 10 on CNN. And now on to the frauds. Let's start with Pennsylvania Health Secretary Rachel Levine, who weeks ago ordered nursing homes to admit COVID-positive patients.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Well, while thousands of residents saw their loved ones and family members die, Levine quietly extracted her own mother out of harm's way, reportedly moving her from a nursing home to a hotel. My mother requested, and my sister and I as her children, comply to move her to another location during the COVID-19 outbreak. My mother is 95 years old. She is very intelligent and more than competent to make her own decision. I'd rather have her mother be health secretary of Pennsylvania, frankly.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Do you mean a fully approved vaccine for everyone, the full public, or a partially approved vaccine with emergency use? No, we're looking for a full vaccine for everyone that wants to get it. Not everybody's going to want to get it. But we're looking at a full vaccine. Is that a correct statement? Yeah, well, please. So the answer is the answer is yes, we're working for a fully approved vaccine, but we'll also use the tools we have, for instance, emergency use authorization as appropriate.
Starting point is 00:27:54 We use all of our regulatory tools to bring vaccine available for the entire American population by January. Okay. And then, Mr. President, could you just clarify, why are some of you wearing a mask and why are some of you not wearing a mask? We've all been tested. I've been tested. We've all been tested. And we're quite a distance away and we're outdoors. So, I told them I gave them the option. They could wear it or
Starting point is 00:28:16 not. So, you can blame it on me, but I gave them the option. We could wear it or not. President, and he said it again today, we need to move ahead, whether we're ready or not on the, you know, in the direction of opening up. Yes, he did, Judy. And the president proves once again he's not actually strategic or tactical in his political fights that he engages in. He's visceral.
Starting point is 00:28:38 He's instinctive. He went out. You should always, if you're going after somebody politically, go after somebody who's a lot weaker than you are politically or less popular. I mean, Democrats won five consecutive presidential elections running against Herbert Hoover because they're the Depression and unpopular as the Republican president. But he picked Anthony Fauci, Dr. Fauci. David mentioned he's been there since the Reagan years, but not only that, in a presidential debate when George H.W. Bush was asked to cite a contemporary American hero, he cited
Starting point is 00:29:11 Dr. Anthony Fauci. The Food and Drug Administration halted a coronavirus testing program promoted by billionaire Bill Gates and Seattle health officials pending reviews. The program sought to send test kits to the home of people both healthy and sick to try to bring the country to the level of testing officials say is necessary before states can begin safely reopening. The program, which has already gone through thousands of tests, found dozens of cases that had previously been undiagnosed. The Seattle Coronavirus Assessment Network said on its website that the FDA has asked it to pause testing while it receives additional authorizations but maintained its
Starting point is 00:29:47 procedures are safe. Every player, unless they're from the same household, has to bring their own tennis balls so that you don't touch other people's tennis balls with your hands. You can kick their balls but you can't touch them. I'm gonna blush, sorry. Of course if you're if you're playing with someone in your household you can touch those tennis balls. To avoid confusion between whose balls are whose you can use a marker like a sharpie to mark out to put an X or put someone's initials on them. The P4 lab at the Wuhan Institute of Virology has come under scrutiny as a potential source of the virus. According to an NBC report, a hazardous event may have happened at the lab
Starting point is 00:30:36 in October last year. Three people familiar with the matter told NBC that U.S. intelligence agencies are reviewing an unofficial report on cell phone location data. The report found there was no cell phone activity around the high-security part of the P-4 lab between Oct. 7 and 24 last year. The report suggests there may have been a hazardous event there sometime between Oct. 6 and 11 that required the lab to be closed during that time. The report talks about images from October 14th to 19th last year showing no outbound traffic
Starting point is 00:31:11 from the lab. It's suspected a roadblock was set up to prevent cars and people coming and going. This is in contrast to satellite images from August to October 6th which show a lot of activity. The next instance of activity was on October 25th. U.S. Senator Tom Cotton also spoke about the data in an interview with Fox News. Cotton said normally thousands of mobile phones are in use around this area. Wuhan has about the same population density as New York. He adds the sudden drop in cell phone usage is likely an indicator of when the virus first began spreading. He said we could get to the bottom of it a lot faster
Starting point is 00:31:50 if the Chinese regime was more transparent. US intelligence officials say the evidence is not enough on its own. They are still investigating. I mean, there's a real possibility that the convention does not happen, or it happens in a virtual sense. Is that correct as of today?
Starting point is 00:32:06 Well, first of all, our convention has to happen because we are not officially nominating Joe Biden in order to take Donald Trump. So our convention is happening. There is business that has to happen. Now, when it comes to what our convention is going to look like, I can guarantee you that our convention will ensure
Starting point is 00:32:26 that the safe that is safety first, whether it is our delegates, the people of Milwaukee, or all of those involved in a convention, we will make sure that they are safe, whatever that looks like, and that they vote for our nominee. With summer right around the corner, New Jersey announced this week that beaches would be opened by Memorial Day weekend, with some restrictions. The openings are weeks behind other coastal states like Georgia and Florida, but as one of the state's hardest hit by the COVID-19 pandemic, local officials say they are proceeding cautiously. At exactly 10 a.m. yesterday, barriers that had been blocking the boardwalk and beach in Seaside Heights, New Jersey, were pushed aside. An announcement made it official.
Starting point is 00:33:06 These beaches are now officially open. Once again, these beaches are now officially open. It's a sign that things are returning to normal in this quintessential Jersey shore town, sort of. We're looking to see how we deal with the social distance. And that's going to be our test today. Tony Vaz is the mayor of Seaside Heights. After nearly two months of being closed because of COVID-19, visitors can now walk and ride bikes on the boardwalk, provided they heed the rule of six feet between groups of people. On the beach, there's no swimming or sunbathing, but the public can walk, fish and even surf. Mayor Vaz says it's
Starting point is 00:33:42 just the first phase of Seaside Heights is reopening. I'm optimistic that this is a good first step. Obviously I would love to see everything open. I would love to see us swimming and so forth. But we have to recognize that we have to take this in steps. Seaside Heights is one of more than three dozen communities along the Jersey shore, grappling with how best to reopen. In neighboring Seaside Park, beaches are already open to sunbathers, provided beachgoers keep their distance. These are unprecedented times. We know things are hard right now.
Starting point is 00:34:15 You're stuck inside with nothing to do. You might be going out of your mind. Just wanting to do something. Anything. But now, more than ever. More than ever. More than ever. More than ever. It's time to think about how your choices affect others.
Starting point is 00:34:29 So please, please. Please. Don't start a podcast. Just don't do it. Don't do it. You might feel like it's a productive use of your time right now. You've probably already got a USB mic and a spare room ready to go. And your mate Dave's got some interesting opinions.
Starting point is 00:34:47 But we're here to tell you... He doesn't. He really doesn't. He's a fuckwit. We don't need your true crime exclusive, which is just you reading Wikipedia articles to your housemate. We don't need your minute by minute breakdown of every episode of Parks and Rec. What are you going to do, send everyone in your contact list a Mailchip newsletter? And force them to mark you as spam instead of unsubscribing?
Starting point is 00:35:10 Because they're scared to hurt your feelings? We're in the middle of a pandemic! Look, it's pretty straightforward. Just don't set a podcaster. Make some pasta from scratch like everyone else and just shut up. The greatest gift you can give your fellow human beings right now? Right now? Right now is to shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Shut up the greatest gift you can give your fellow human beings right now right now right now Is to shut the fuck up shut the fuck up come on do it Don't start a podcast
Starting point is 00:35:39 To reaction to the president saying that he's now taking hydroxy chloroquine What's your reaction to the president saying that he is now taking hydroxychloroquine? Are you concerned? Well, first let me say how happy I am about your new baby, how lovely. Wyatt, how perfectly named. We all know why that is and congratulations. And as you now are a father, you see how important it is to keep the world safe for the children. As far as the president is concerned, he's our president and I would rather he not be taking something that has not been approved by the scientist, especially in his age group
Starting point is 00:36:21 and in his, shall we say, weight group, what is morbidly obese, they say. So I think it's not a good idea. Does this make medical sense? Yes. Listen, people have got to separate politics from the practice of medicine. Everything he said was absolutely accurate. It has been around for 40 years.
Starting point is 00:36:42 It's been prescribed hundreds of millions of times for malaria. I personally have prescribed it hundreds of times for malaria, hundreds of times for rheumatic diseases. I've never seen one adverse side effect. I can't say that of Tylenol. I can't say that of aspirin. Now, every medication has risk. That's just the way it is. But in an otherwise healthy person with maybe rheumatic condition or to prevent malaria, it's a very safe medication. Do not confuse it with chloroquine that's different than hydroxychloroquine.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Okay. So the... Different medicines. So the FDA put out a warning about both hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. They said this warning in April that it can cause dangerous abnormality in heart rhythm and virus patients. Chloroquine. heart rhythm and virus patients said about both of them And that only in hospitals should it be used and in clinical trials This is not being used in a hospital and not being used as a clinical trial. Correct. That's the FDA standard
Starting point is 00:37:37 Doctors are entitled to do anything they want with a medication They take on a certain degree of liability they do when they do that, different than when something is FDA approved. We use off-label medication all the time. Some of our more common prescribing is off-label, not FDA approved. Now this is for not a hospital setting,
Starting point is 00:37:59 not a COVID setting, it's being used for prophylaxis. Doctors take it themselves for prophylaxis, they prescribe it for patients for prophylaxis. Doctors take it themselves for prophylaxis, they prescribe it for patients for prophylaxis. But the FDA says that there's no evidence that that works. No, because that study's not been done yet. They're talking about the treatment of COVID. No, but preventatively, there's no study that shows that that works. Correct. The president is doing this to prevent, unless he's had coronavirus, and he's lying about it.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Doctors can prescribe it prophylactically. I know many doctors are doing it. I know many doctors that are taking it themselves because there's some evidence that it might be prophylactic and it is so safe. So they feel like rather than do nothing, they'd rather do the hydroxychloroquine, not the chloroquine, which does have cardiac side effects. The whole, look, the studies on hydroxychloroquine and the cardiac effects have yet to be washed out.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Exploring the unintended consequences of a safety first culture through the lens of a quarantine was to me a really interesting rumination because we can be a safety first country but only for very, very, very short periods of time. And then we're reminded that the chief goal of living is not to merely stay alive, at least not for most people. And then this fascinating conversation starts to unfold. So that's a long way of saying that for the last 60 days or so,
Starting point is 00:39:23 I've seen a lot, a lot of conversation right around a couple topics that I love, specifically homeostatic risk, compensatory risk, risk equilibrium and all the subconscious things we do to maintain our own illusory relationship with the illusion of safety. I mean, did you change your mind on herd immunity? Erm, no. What is your... I don't know what you mean by that.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Herd immunity is just a thing, yeah. Herd immunity or population immunity is what, you know... But for a period in March, the government appeared to be pursuing a strategy of mitigating the spread of the virus, allowing Cheltenham races, for example, to go ahead between March 10th and March 13th, allowing it to spread naturally, to allow the development of some herd immunity. Was that a mistake? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I'm not quite sure whether that really was the strategy. I think at the time it was difficult to imagine. We weren't sure by what levels of compliance with various social distance measures were possible. Was that why you didn't model full lockdown until the middle of March? I think it was very hard. I don't think anybody looked at it. It wasn't just myself. I don't think anybody. I mean, we all looked at a range of different measures, some of which were very stringent. But it was, you know, it's difficult to say, you know, but it was difficult to imagine just how, in some sense, it was difficult to imagine just how easy the lockdown was, if you see what I mean.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Two families who've suffered losses inside nursing homes and they're looking for accountability and they'd like to see justice. For example, I've recently interviewed a family, three siblings. They've had two nursing home losses within a few weeks of one another on two separate floors in the same facility here in Albany. They felt so much solace when you got up and talked about Matilda's Law. They said, great, we're protected. Our loved ones are going to be okay because of Matilda's Law. And then their loved ones passed away because they couldn't get the testing.
Starting point is 00:41:46 So they're looking for accountability and they feel that they were failed. What's the comment to that? Yeah, the comment is this, and I have those conversations all day long with people who have lost people, right? We lost 139 people yesterday in hospitals. Who is accountable for those 139 deaths? Well, how do we get justice for those families who had 139 deaths? What is justice? Who can we
Starting point is 00:42:15 prosecute for those deaths? Nobody. Nobody. Mother Nature, God, where did this virus come from? People are going to die by this virus. That is the truth. Older people, vulnerable people, are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen despite whatever you do. Because with all our progress as a society, we can't keep everyone alive. Despite what everything you do. And older people are more vulnerable. And that is a fact. And that is not gonna change.
Starting point is 00:43:04 And look, to me, the really difficult conversations for me are my son was 40 years old. He was not a senior citizen, did not have a comorbidity, and got this virus because he was an essential worker and doing the right thing, and had an aneurysm. I thought young people were fine. And he was doing the right thing as an essential worker. You know, there's a randomness to this virus
Starting point is 00:43:39 that is inexplicable. Just everything we possibly can to make sure people have a good time, but it's safe. Kelly Jones is a manager at the Palazzo Gentleman's Club in South Austin. He says their employees, along with dancers and entertainers in the industry, have had it tough. A lot of people I know that are entertainers are actually independent contractors, much like hairdressers. So they had a lot of issues collecting unemployment.
Starting point is 00:44:04 They work on cash tips like a lot of other people in the service industry. So they're struggling as well. A lot of them have families and kids. They're trying to make sure that they have arrangements for child care, for putting food on the table. And now they'll be back to work Friday, but with a long list of safety protocols in effect, that includes how many people can get into this building, which normally holds close to 300 people. We're going to have to cut that down to comply with the governor's order of 25% capacity. It's going to be back to the old days with hand clickers, making sure what our capacity is.
Starting point is 00:44:32 We're going to have to have barriers around our stages so that our customers have social distancing from the entertainers. As far as private dances go, they're going to have to maintain that six foot division between them. But of course, they're also a bar and some food. We're gonna have to go to plastic ware instead of nice metal knives and forks, paper napkins, placemats, plastic cups. Bartenders and our staff are gonna make sure that we follow our hand washing policies.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Our employees definitely are wearing masks. Including the entertainers. So we're encouraging them to be creative, find something they like that maybe goes with their outfits. And they'll also have employees specifically designated for constantly cleaning the place and while it won't be a full house inside by any means, they're just glad to get business moving again.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Aside from the fact that most believe that this president has botched this crisis from the get-go and this will be known in history worldwide as a human catastrophe that he could have prevented. And he's trying to deflect at all times. And Willie and Mike, he's tweeting again all sorts of crazy things. Once again, tweeting conspiracy theories about Joe, falsely accusing him of murder, talking about the death of a young staffer in his congressional office years ago and Calling him dangerous to walk the streets and I'll just say I'll take a point of personal privilege here. That's sick Donald you're a sick person You're a sick person to put this family through this to put her husband through this
Starting point is 00:46:01 To do this just because you're mad at Joe because Joe got you again today husband through this, to do this just because you're mad at Joe because Joe got you again today, because he speaks the truth and he speaks plainly about your lack of interest and empathy in others and your lack of ability to handle this massive human catastrophe, the fact that you've made it worse and that you make it worse every day and that you won't even wear a mask to protect people from your germs. But the germs you're spreading on Twitter, first of all, Twitter, you shouldn't be allowing this. And you should be taking these tweets down. And you should be ashamed of yourself. You'll be hearing from me on this, because this is BS.
Starting point is 00:46:38 But Donald, you're a sick person. You're really a cruel, sick, disgusting person. And you can keep tweeting about Joe, but you're just hurting other people. And of course, you're hurting yourself. Willie, why don't you take final thoughts? I'm done. A professor at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland has been arrested over his alleged financial ties to China.
Starting point is 00:47:00 This just days after the FBI sounded the alarm on China's attempts to steal coronavirus research. A professor at the University of Arkansas was arrested on similar charges last week. And then in January, Harvard's chemistry chief was charged with failing to disclose that he too was being paid by the Chinese Communist Party. Two weeks ago, Senator Tom Cotton told us that the CCP was trying in many ways to steal medical data from the United States to try and come up with a vaccine for COVID-19 before the United States. After several weeks of being stuck inside, thousands have flocked here to Bolivar Peninsula to make the most of their time while out.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I've been in quarantine and like I need to get out and party. Go top is Jeep weekend. What's better than beach and a few drinks and jeeps? Man, getting better than that. In full swing at beaches on Bolivar Peninsula. Oh, good work! This event comes at a time where beaches across the state are reopening following the coronavirus pandemic.
Starting point is 00:47:58 And beach goers like Chelsea Collier are still taking precautions to stay safe. Wash them hands for 20 seconds and keep them clean with their germax totally. Come down have a good time. You have a good time, there's no issues. But when you start acting silly, like the sheriff said on the previous interview, we've got a jail that's got a whole lot of empty holes. The sheriff office have made at least 63 arrests so far in connection to Jeep
Starting point is 00:48:24 weekend. As for the enforcement of social distancing, they say it's challenging to enforce. I mean you can't. It's just it's not possible to do that on this beach with the amount of people that we have here. It's just we can't do that. The additional presence of law enforcement has been a welcoming sight for beachgoers given the history of this event.
Starting point is 00:48:47 May 5th we announced a wear a mask in public campaign and we asked people to submit videos that and we would pick the winner by vote of the people and the winner would become a public service announcement. We had over 600 submissions. Isn't that amazing? The competition is still open and we're going to show you now five of the runner-ups. United we stand and divided we fall. We mask up not just to obey the law but to obey the laws of nature. We hope for immunity in our community. We pray for normality in this calamity.
Starting point is 00:49:30 We want hope. I mask up not because I fear getting sick but because I fear getting you sick. I mask up because days, weeks, or months of hot breath and acne bumps is better than knowing my wife will soon have to raise a fatherless son. Mask up. is better than knowing my wife will soon have to raise a fatherless son. Mask up. Senator also, I think you know that this whole thing started in Wuhan, and you know that many people call this the Wuhan virus or the Chinese virus.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Kamala Harris has had enough. She has a resolution that's going to work its way through the Senate to ban the phrase Wuhan virus, and she calls it anti-Asian. Your feeling on this? Well I object to that resolution, Brian. First off, Wuhan is just a city, it's not even a people. I guess she's going to have to call out Lyme disease for being anti-Connecticut or maybe Legionnaires disease for being anti-veteran.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Zika, since Zika is a forest in Africa. But this political correctness run amok covers a more serious point. The Democrats want to wave their arms and say that this is racist or xenophobic. And that's because they don't have an answer for China's rise and the threat that China poses to us. Joe Biden, as we said, has been weak on China for 30 years. So they want to have politically correct distractions
Starting point is 00:50:49 to distract people from his terrible record on China. We can't let that happen. Would requiring masks across the board help? Is that even, is that feasible? Craig, I'm going to say this for the benefit of your family and the young kids from my family and for all Americans, we should make masks mandatory in public. Just like we ban indoor smoking because you know what, nobody should, you shouldn't have to breathe somebody else's second hand smoke.
Starting point is 00:51:14 I shouldn't have to breathe exhaled COVID-19 in somebody's breath. Nobody should. And so we should institute mandatory masks in public when you can't guarantee social distancing. That means retail stores, that means public transportation, workplaces. That's absolutely where we should be headed. Makes no sense why we're not already there.
Starting point is 00:51:33 We're encouraging it. People are flouting the rules. A security guard at a retail outlet in Michigan died trying to encourage a customer to wear a mask. They shot him because they didn't like the way in which it was trying to be enforced, that policy. We need to not put the onus on security guards at local outlets to enforce this policy or to encourage Americans to abide by it.
Starting point is 00:51:57 It's in all in our best interest that we wear masks. The evidence is overwhelming. We just need governors to do their job. The idea of a bioterrorist attack is kind of the nightmare scenario because they're a pathogen with a high death rate would be picked. Now the good news is, I'm not trying to depress you, it's tough enough right now, that most the work we're going to do to be ready for pandemic two, I call this pandemic one. Most of the work we'll do to be ready for that are also the things we need to do to minimize the threat of bioterrorism. You panicked about the market, panicked about COVID, panicked about the ventilators, panicked
Starting point is 00:52:36 about the PPE, panicked about ever going out again, panicked that we'd ever get back to normal. Joseph, you didn't panic about anything. What good is that? What good is it? Why not help people? A hundred000 people die, keep their head. I understand that 100,000 people died, Joe. And all you did was try to help your friend, the president. That's what you did. Every single morning on this show. Every single morning on this show. It had nothing to do with your position. Joe, you abuse and abuse. abuse your trying to help investors keep their cool, keep their heads. And as it turned out,
Starting point is 00:53:09 that's what they should have done. That's what they should have done. They should have kept their heads. If they had listened to you, Andrew, we're supposed to be at about 8000 arguing to go sell your stocks. Joseph, I was arguing about people's lives. We understand people's lives. Andrew, Andrew, it's a global pandemic news. I'm begging you to do the news. It's a global pandemic. I'm begging you and please. Greetings. My name is Dr. Tony Fauci, and I am here to present some good news at a time of great stress as we struggle to contain the COVID-19 outbreak. I'm excited about the opportunity to shine some light on one of the many young people who have stepped up and helped us throughout this difficult time. The 24th annual Webby Awards will honor Avi Schiffman as the 2020 Person of the Year in recognition of his creation of ENCOVE2019.live to track the spread of COVID-19 across the world.
Starting point is 00:54:17 As we collectively navigate the severe impact of COVID-19, including the difficult but critical calls for nationwide social distancing, the Internet has become the lifeblood of people looking for accurate information about the novel coronavirus and the necessary steps to combat it. Since launching the site on December 29th, Schiffman's tracking tool has been an invaluable resource that sounded the alarm on the virus and its spread, notably calling attention to its severity long before it was broadly recognized. At a time when the spread of misinformation can be so detrimental to our efforts, the
Starting point is 00:54:58 site has provided over 600 million visitors with accurate real-time data. Schiffman has helped people around the globe understand COVID-19 and the necessity to upgrade current health care systems and the importance of measures to flatten the curve. For having the foresight to track the global spread of COVID-19 and for creating an essential website to provide real-time data about the virus to people everywhere, it is my great privilege to honor Avi Schiffman as the 2020 Webby Person of the Year.
Starting point is 00:55:36 President will sign an executive order concerning social media as he escalates his feud with Twitter. Here's Peter Alexander. Ahead of today's scrubbed launch, President Trump touring NASA's campus, striking an uplifting note. It's a great achievement for our country, and our country's number one. Members of the president's family
Starting point is 00:55:54 traveling with him wearing masks. The first lady earlier seen wearing her mask aboard Marine One. Their visit coming the very day the country marks that tragic milestone, 100,000 lives lost to the coronavirus. And today the president hosted New York Governor Andrew Cuomo at the White House.
Starting point is 00:56:11 It was about how do we supercharge the reopening, especially in New York, which has been hardest hit. No drama there, but the president is escalating another battle with Twitter after the company, for the first time, posted fact check labels on a pair of the president's tweets about mail-in ballots. President Trump accusing Twitter of interfering in the 2020 presidential election and today threatening to strongly regulate or close them down. A president has no authority to shut down a private company and the First Amendment limits the government's ability to regulate free speech.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Meantime, some top Republicans are telling President Trump to knock it off as he again and the First Amendment limits the government's ability to regulate free speech. Meantime, some top Republicans are telling President Trump to knock it off as he again today pushed a debunked conspiracy theory that former Republican congressman and Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough had something to do with the death of an aide in 2001. Laurie Klausoutis died after an abnormal heart rhythm caused her to collapse and hit her head in Scarborough's Florida office. Scarborough was in Washington at the time. Republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney. We're in the middle of a pandemic. He's the chief, the commander in chief of his nation and it's causing great pain to the family of the young woman who died. As for SpaceX, late tonight the president tweeted that he plans to fly back to Florida
Starting point is 00:57:22 on Saturday for the next scheduled launch. Lester? Millions of Americans staying at home are relying on Amazon. Millions of Americans staying at home are relying on Amazon. Millions of Americans staying at home are relying on Amazon. Millions of Americans staying at home are relying on Amazon. Amazon has transformed its operations in response to COVID-19 to protect employees and keep packages flowing. Amazon has transformed its operations in response to COVID-19 to protect employees and keep packages flowing.
Starting point is 00:57:52 The company is keeping its employees safe and healthy while still delivering those packages to your doorstep. The company is keeping employees safe and healthy. The company is keeping its employees safe and healthy. The company is keeping its employees safe and healthy. The company is keeping its employees safe and healthy. The company is keeping its employees safe and healthy. The company is keeping its employees safe and healthy. The company is keeping its employees safe and healthy. The company is keeping its employees safe and healthy. The company is keeping its employees safe and healthy. It's
Starting point is 00:58:18 spent $800 million on increased wages and overtime pay during the pandemic. It has spent $800 million on increased wages and overtime pay during the pandemic. It has spent $800 million on increased wages and overtime pay during the pandemic. It has spent $800 million on increased wages and overtime pay during the pandemic. It has spent $800 million on increased wages and overtime pay during the pandemic. Amazon says it has spent $800 million on increased wages
Starting point is 00:58:43 and overtime pay during the pandemic. Every single one of Amazon's workforce of nearly a million people has played a critical role in making these changes happen. I hope that they feel that passion that we have for safety. So they can stay safe and healthy while you do too. Look, the president today, you know, with these retweets, one, so many viewpoints he comments, you know, with a columnist saying that this is about social control as opposed to medical reality. Another one equating masks to silence, slavery and social death. Obviously, this is shocking. I mean, and completely false
Starting point is 00:59:24 when it comes to so many viewpoints. Yeah, the piece that the president retweeted could have been written by a Russian bot. It's essentially disinformation. The irrefutable concept is that universal masking, having the entire country wear a mask in public, would have dramatically reduced the death rate in this country. It's not up for debate, it's just science. But the president has an irreconcilable conflict
Starting point is 00:59:52 of interest. And the conflict of interest is this, he's running for president during a pandemic. And some of the things that one would need to do to suppress the pandemic, run counter to his election chances. He needs to make things look like the country is returning to normal and wearing a mask
Starting point is 01:00:12 is decidedly abnormal, but it saves lives. So he not only does he not promote universal mask wearing, he then promotes essentially negative comments about it. It's maddening. I've lost family members to COVID. My colleagues at work have lost family members. And pretty soon, everyone in this country is going to know somebody who has lost somebody
Starting point is 01:00:37 to this virus. And to think that the president of the United States would not promote the simple public health measure of wearing masks is insane. Andrew Cuomo has been glorified by media despite policies with respect to nursing homes that caused to a number of tragic deaths, whereas Rhonda Sandis has instituted pretty successful policy if you look at their numbers. So what's going on here?
Starting point is 01:01:01 Rhonda Sandis is not doing what he needed to do two weeks ago to protect Florida seniors. It's been a remarkable show of leadership by Governor Cuomo in recent days. He's providing hope. And Governor Ron DeSantis is finally, finally, maybe too little, too late, issuing a stay at home order. Cuomo has become a kind of acting president. Governor DeSantis should have absolutely acted a lot quicker, not only for the retired people. Cuomo.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Everything Trump isn't, honest, direct, brave. In the case of Governor DeSantis of Florida, he's going exactly the opposite way from what the experts, the people on the front lines, indicate ought to be done. Governor Cuomo has become a national leader and not just the leader of New York. No stay at home order from Governor Ron DeSantis. Why bother, right? I'm sure Florida will be fine. He is conveying incredible strength
Starting point is 01:01:49 in the face of this pandemic. Act like you give a damn. I've seen you referred to a little bit recently as the love gov and I'm wondering if that's bleeding into your demeanor at all. Massive crowds swarming cities across the country are choosing social justice over social distancing. I could be dead tomorrow if I walk on the street.
Starting point is 01:02:06 But an urgent health warning from officials. There's no question there's a danger this could intensify the spread of the coronavirus just at a point when we were starting to beat it back profoundly. How many super spreaders were in that crowd? How many young people went home and kissed their mother hello or shook hands with their father. But these demonstrators see an America infected with injustice to. Are you worried about your safety.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Yes, but the answer is that I'm worried about my safety to both of those viruses. Late today, the first comprehensive study on stopping the virus found physical distancing 3 feet or more is most important even more than wearing a mask. And with tear gas fly the risks even greater tear gas makes people cough sneeze or ice water and when that happens the respiratory droplets that carry the virus can travel further
Starting point is 01:02:59 meaning they can affect a lot more people. Public health and prosperity now jeopardized. This restaurant owner's reopening was put on hold. I worked for two months every day to reposition ourselves for this to happen. It's just hurt. In South Florida, businesses were expecting to see Miami Beach reopen today. That's now been postponed because of the protests. As officials everywhere wait to see if cases of the virus surge in the next two weeks I can't tell you how many people have been in touch with me today and tonight and last night To say some form of the following which we would have laughed at five years ago
Starting point is 01:03:37 Uh, the russians must be having a good old time Looking at television images of the United States. Death toll of a 100,000, a pandemic not at all under control, and now city streets aflame in more cities tonight than we can list. Yeah, I've lost count of the number of times you and I, Brian, have talked about this very concept that the number one goal of the Russian government is not
Starting point is 01:04:06 to get a certain person in the White House, but rather to sow discord and chaos. Now, it helps if the person in the White House is unable to calm the nerves of the nation, is unable to get peace and calm restored in our cities through his behavior, through trust, through his relationships and his statements. So yes, our adversaries are studying this right now. Some of them are actually pleased that we are more divided than ever. And I'm very troubled that we could be in for a very long, hot summer if this isn't quash. April Williams is a professor of communications and media at the University of Michigan. And she says the Karen meme resurged with a vengeance last month.
Starting point is 01:04:50 A woman named Karen was denying that COVID-19 was real, became ill, and unfortunately she passed away. And one of the things that I'm seeing is people saying, look, this is peak Karen behavior. It seems so wasteful, but some American dairy farmers are dumping milk, like the 56,000 pounds produced by farm owner Mark Mueller in Northeast Wisconsin. You put all that labor and work into the milk, and you hate to see it go down the drain when
Starting point is 01:05:20 you know that there's people starving in the world and in our country even. We hate to throw things away. Despite strong demand for milk as consumers stay home amid the coronavirus pandemic, dairy cooperatives that oversee marketing and shipping logistics are asking some farmers to dump milk. Supply chain disruptions due to the outbreak are preventing farmers from getting their products to the markets.
Starting point is 01:05:43 With schools and restaurants closed, milk processors have to shift to selling to retail grocers instead of wholesalers. That creates logistical and packaging challenges. What's more, trucking companies are scrambling for drivers, as some who fear the virus have stopped working. Overseas dairy markets have dried up, and it doesn't help that milk is highly perishable. Some farmers say they will be paid for the milk they dump, but payments for all co-op members will take a hit from lost revenues.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Today is a day of good news. We have one of the lowest hospitalization rates since this began, and really good news, we have the lowest death rate. It's down to 35. I've been asking all the experts who will talk to me what is the lowest that number can go. And when it gets this low, it's really a question of how they're, what they're attributing low, it's really a question of how they're, what they're attributing as the cause of death. In other words, you have people who are gravely ill, who are going to die of something, and if they get the COVID virus, they attribute it to the COVID
Starting point is 01:06:59 virus. But there is a number, when it gets down this low, it's really a question of what that hospital certifies as a cause of death. So we'd like to see nobody die in the state of New York ever. Where is the president in a time of national emergency? Hiding. Hiding in a security bunker. Watching his shows. Afraid. Alone. Not a leader. Supposing you brought the light inside the body. Not a president. Just a scared, incompetent... Within a couple of days it's going to be down to close to zero.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Embarrassment. You know that. Those who have worked with him know that. A former Defense Secretary, James Mattis, accusing President Trump of being a threat to the Constitution. Our allies know that. And our enemies know that. Everyone knows that. It's time for a competent president.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Let's elect one. Defending Democracy Together is responsible for the content of this advertising. ...vaccine either by the end of this calendar year or in the first few months of 2021. So that's the thing that makes me feel confident that the process is really on track. And that's good news. Again, in the context of never being able to guarantee success, things are clearly going in the right direction.
Starting point is 01:08:38 That's very promising, very promising indeed. And once there is a vaccine, how often do you think we would need it? Would it be like getting the flu shot every year? You know, we don't know that right now. We're going to take it one step at a time. The first thing we want to do is to determine if it's safe and if it protects. How long that protection lasts.
Starting point is 01:08:59 We're going to have to obviously observe that. And that's the reason why when you make a vaccine, it isn't the end of the game. You have to keep following and see how long the duration of the protection is. We hope it's substantial, but if it isn't, you can always give a boost. So right now, step one, let's just prove
Starting point is 01:09:19 that it's safe and effective, and then we'll go on from there. Right? So, okay. So people in the media, a lot of them are not very good at math and they're very prone to group think as they, as the cannabis thing taught me, but there's something even worse than that. Right. And people call it Trump derangement syndrome.
Starting point is 01:09:36 I don't like to call it that because that to me suggests there aren't good reasons to be mad at Trump. I call it orange man bad, right? Because that puts you in on the it orange man bad, right? Because that puts you in on the joke a little bit, right? That, you know, Donald Trump does have lots of issues, but there's orange man bad syndrome going on and Donald Trump got blamed for this early on. And you know, he didn't, the government didn't prepare, right? He shut the borders,
Starting point is 01:10:00 but then the government didn't really prepare in February and early March. And then it panicked. But what people realized in the media, consciously or not, was they could beat him up with this. They could beat him over the head with it because his normal style is to bluster and to bluff and to mock people. And that does not work when you have these death counts every day. So they realized they could embarrass him and they have been doing it non-stop ever since. But the flip side of embarrassing him means you have to constantly
Starting point is 01:10:31 talk about how terrible this is. Now, I mean, that's quite a charge. I mean, what makes you think they really want them to get COVID?- Money, money. I think it's at least $29,000 per patient. And then you have to think you're also charging supplies and more supplies and more supplies. That's just like a bonus money. But the residents aren't getting that, right? I mean, why?
Starting point is 01:11:00 Well, that's the thing. And I actually had a, I've went at it with a lot of residents already, and they're order followers. You talk about psychological warfare. Psychological warfare isn't just lying to you, it's not just propaganda as we would normally think of it. Psychological warfare is changing the way you interpret information, so that you and I can be looking at the exact same set of data and we would come to wildly different conclusions on it. So for
Starting point is 01:11:29 example with this virus right now, this pandemic, you're looking at the Chinese regime's handling of the virus. We're both looking at the, we're looking at the exact same data. Now do you interpret it as being a sign, oh the Chinese regime did all it could in its power, it took very strong measures to ensure that the virus didn't spread, and the rest of the world is just being unfair to it? Or do you think the Chinese regime lied to the world, the Chinese regime arrested doctors, disappeared journalists, and these types of things?
Starting point is 01:11:59 If you were following only the information the CCP was releasing and some of the organizations that support the CCP, what they were saying, you would view it in line of the CCP's, you know, pro-CCP viewpoint. If you were following all the real data, for example, their cover-ups, their lying to the world, their, you know, manipulation of data and numbers, you would understand, okay, they were misleading the world, they were very dishonest about it, and no, absolutely, they did not handle it well. The idea that they handled it well, you would only believe that if you believed
Starting point is 01:12:31 all of the lies they were telling the world, most of which have been exposed. All right, well, let's get into it. Veena, what has you fired up this week? Well, I've been following this J.K. Rowling controversy, and it all started with a tweet she made. Actually, it started with this headline, creating a more equal post-COVID-19 world for people
Starting point is 01:12:51 who menstruate. JK took issue with the word people being used. Maybe she was trying to be funny, but she hinted that the publication should have stuck with using the word women. Some fans pointed out that there are lots of those who menstruate who don't identify as women. And then things got a little messy, lots of tweets back and forth, and at one point, JK fired back with, my life has been shaped by being female, and I don't think it's hateful to say so.
Starting point is 01:13:16 It's 2020. Releasing these kind of statements online is not a good look. And hasn't she been accused of transphobic stuff in the past? Um, yeah. Last year, she was criticized for supporting a woman who was fired after saying that trans women weren't real women. Sis, read the room. There are so many conversations right now about equality, justice, and racism.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Is it any surprise that the story is blowing up right now? Exactly. It's Pride Month 2, and this this week Daniel Radcliffe, Harry Potter himself, reacted with an essay advocating for trans lives. I thought he addressed the whole thing really well and I liked how he expressed his hopes that people don't lose their love for the books themselves or forget the valuable lessons that they learned from them. I have not read the books, I have not seen the movies, don't come at me. Okay, Maya, get out of here. What?
Starting point is 01:14:09 Well, I did watch the movies, and seeing Daniel advocate for what he believes in is so inspiring. And also, I loved how he signed his letter as Dan. Definitely had a big major global. Only you would notice such a small detail, Sean. Do we think this will have a long lasting impact on her career? I think that this will diminish the amount of respect
Starting point is 01:14:30 that J.K. Rowling has acquired over the years, but her writing is just so exceptional and renowned that I don't think the hype's ever gonna die down. What about month or so or two or three ago when people were saying, you don't really need to wear a mask. Well, the reason for that is that we were concerned, the public health community, and many people
Starting point is 01:14:49 were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply. And we wanted to make sure that the people, namely, the healthcare workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected,
Starting point is 01:15:17 we did not want them to be without the equipment that they needed. So there was not enthusiasm about going out and everybody buying a mask or getting a mask. We were afraid that that would deter away the people who really needed it. Now we have masks. We know that you don't need an N95 if you're a person, ordinary person in the street. We also know that simple cloth coverings that many people have can work as well as a mask in many cases.
Starting point is 01:15:45 So right now, unequivocally, the recommendation is when you're out there, particularly if you're in a situation where there's active infection, keep the distance physically and wear a mask. So although there appeared to be some contradiction of you were saying this then and why you're saying this now, actually the circumstances have changed. That's the reason why. appear to be some contradiction of you were saying this then and why you're saying this now. Actually, the circumstances have changed. That's the reason why. The gentleman yields back.
Starting point is 01:16:10 I want to announce that in accordance with what I said this morning, the attending physician of the House has said that it is imperative for the health and safety of people in this room that members wear masks. I would greatly prefer that all Presidents simply uphold the decorum of the Committee by complying with reasonable safety standards that are recommended by the attending physician and are respectful of all the occupants of this room. I have been greatly lenient today.
Starting point is 01:16:39 However, I will tell you now that anyone who is not wearing a mask will not be recognized to speak period Who seeks recognition? Mr. Chairman? The miss Escobar is next. Mr. Chairman? Miss Escobar was next. Mr. Chairman, a point of parliamentary... Miss Escobar is recognized. Miss Escobar... Clinton has tried repeatedly to make his point repeatedly
Starting point is 01:17:04 Miss Escobar has the time McClintock has tried repeatedly to make his point. Repeatedly. Ms. Escobar has the time. Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. No, no, it's our side. You just had a Democrat speak. It's our turn. Ms. Escobar has the time. Ms. Escobar has the time. No, he doesn't.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Ms. Escobar has the time. Mr. Chairman. Ms. Escobar has the time. I think Mr. Lulud just spoke. It's the Republicans turn and Mr. McClintock has tried now for several minutes to be recognized on a point of order. There is no point of order, but who seeks recognition to speak? Mr. Chairman, I seek recognition for a point of parliamentary inquiry. The General will state his point of parliamentary inquiry.
Starting point is 01:17:37 I would like the Chairman to cite the House rule requiring members to wear masks in House proceedings. If we had such a vote, I don't recall it. If we had such a vote, I don't recall it. If we have such a vote, I will vote against it, but I will be happy to abide by it if the House so decides. Until then, I would like you to cite me that rule since I obviously missed that vote. The Chair's authority to enforce the preservation of order and decorum during committee proceedings derives from the speaker's enforcement authority under clause two of rule one.
Starting point is 01:18:11 And we're testing, you know testing is a double-edged sword. We've tested now 25 million people. It's probably 20 million people more than anybody else. Germany's done a lot. South Korea's done a lot. They call me, they say the job you're doing. Here's the bad part. When you test a — when you do testing to that extent, you're going to find more people, you're going to find more cases. So I said to my people, slow the testing down please. They test and they test. We got tests that people don't know what's going on. We got tests. We got another one over here. The young man's 10 years old.
Starting point is 01:18:55 He's got the sniffles. He'll recover in about 15 minutes. That's the case. Add up to it. That's the case. That's the case. Today I want to talk about a peculiar aspect of quantum measurements that you may have heard of. It's that the measurement does not merely reveal a property that previously existed, but that the act of measuring makes that property real. So when Donald Trump claims that not testing people for COVID means there will be fewer
Starting point is 01:19:30 cases rather than just fewer cases you know about, then that demonstrates his deep knowledge of quantum mechanics. Surges in cases of coronavirus are not linked to recent protests such as the Black Lives Matter, George Floyd and police protests. Not even more people leaving their homes during the warm weather explains the surge of new coronavirus cases. This is according to findings of USA Today, an analysis of counties nationwide. For now, surges seem to be most intense in counties that had avoided the worst outbreaks earlier this year.
Starting point is 01:20:06 The analysis found no single cause seems to explain why some places have seen spikes while others have not. The report cites one health expert as saying the virus is still out there and the strategy for fighting it has not changed. Will any White House officials be at the rally tomorrow? There will be several White House officials at the rally tomorrow. Will those officials, will you be there for example? I will be there. Will you and other White House officials be wearing masks at the rally? It's a personal choice.
Starting point is 01:20:33 I won't be wearing a mask. I can't speak for my colleagues. Why won't you wear a mask? Is it sort of a personal political statement? Is it because the President would be disappointed in you if you don't wear a mask? It's a personal decision. I'm tested regularly. I feel that it's safe for me not to be wearing a mask and I'm in compliance with CDC guidelines which are recommended but not required. This is not a mask. This is confidence. It's for getting out and working anywhere other than home. This is not a mask. This is solidarity. It's for opening the door
Starting point is 01:21:06 to a friend and keeping the doors open to your favorite places. This is not a mask. This is a sign of love. It was sold with plenty of promise. That is Australia's ticket. A ticket to freedom. So we can get back to the things we love. But so far the $1.5 million dollar app has hardly helped. There haven't been new contacts identified through the use of the COVID app. Victoria, New South Wales, South Australia and Tasmania yet to pick up a single close contact from the app who hadn't already been identified by contact tracers. And in Queensland and Western Australia, not one confirmed case had downloaded the app.
Starting point is 01:21:51 The Covid-19 app is not working as we hoped it would because too few people have downloaded it. Other states say tracing has been easier because cases have been in hotel quarantine. But in Victoria, the virus is spreading in the community and of the 568 cases confirmed since the app was launched, just over 30 had downloaded it. It will help protect you, it will help protect your family. The UK government's not convinced that apps are the right tool. No country currently has a functioning track and trace app.
Starting point is 01:22:26 I can't speak to those comments. Australia's app doesn't notify users, only state governments when someone has been in contact with a patient. And Nine News has been told in some cases the app didn't gather any data at all. The federal government is adamant the app is working, insisting the country's low case numbers is limiting how effective the app could be and says it will be more useful as more restrictions are lifted and more people stand around each other. Good evening from New York I'm Chris Hayes right now right this moment there are Americans who are alive and are healthy who will
Starting point is 01:23:02 be dead by the fall and there are Americans who already died who did not have to all because of the failures of our government and more specifically the president United States there is no other conclusion you can reach at this point at this point there's nothing left to say but that Donald Trump has gotten Americans killed and is going to get even more Americans killed in unfathomable numbers. We're not as extensively the spiking cases is not coming with a spike in deaths, sadly enough.
Starting point is 01:23:30 That's the one thing to look at because that's a big worry. Well this is going to sound counterintuitive to those who are trying to avoid another shutdown because the plan that the mayor is floating, He mentioned it last night on his Facebook Live, actually involves a 35 day shutdown, followed by an extended period of lessons learned. You remember the shutdown, the schools, parks, and businesses fully closed, and churches were reluctant to meet for fear of spreading the COVID-19 virus.
Starting point is 01:24:00 We all stayed home and only traveled to essential businesses for food and supplies. Well, if I understand the mayor, under this proposal, we can expect more of the same. But coming out of the shutdown will be different, he hopes, now that we've seen what happens when people let their face masks down and gather shoulder to shoulder in large numbers. We're going to come out after 35 days. Everybody's going to wear their face masks when they're around other people. Everybody's going to come out after 35 days, everybody's going to wear their face masks when they're around other people. Everybody's going to social distance. Nobody's going to go out
Starting point is 01:24:29 when they're sick. Everybody's going to get tested. We could do that. We could come out, be in orange and just stay in orange. And if you look at this chart, that also enables us to open up schools in the fall. He's talking about our current stage four orange on the city's COVID chart. Everyone is struggling to find a way to get our school kids back in the classroom and the mayor sees this plan as one possibility, but it would have to start pretty soon. And just how long would we be in this extended period of our best behavior? Well, according to the mayor, until a vaccine is available for everyone, it'll be that long.
Starting point is 01:25:07 I doubt seriously that any vaccine will ever be 100% protected. The best we've ever done is measles, which is 97 to 98% effective. If only, say, 70, 75% of Americans are willing to get the vaccine, and it's only, say, I think you just said 70, 75% effective, is that going to get us to herd immunity? No, unlikely. And that's one of the reasons why we have to make sure we engage the community as we're doing now, to get community people to help us, for people to understand that we are doing everything we can to show that it's safe and that it's effective.
Starting point is 01:25:47 And it's for the good of them as individuals and in society to take the vaccine. So we have a lot of work to do because as you well know, we've spoken about this intensively in the past, there is a general anti-science, anti-authority, anti-vaccine feeling among some people in this country, an alarmingly large percentage of people relatively speaking. These serious child abuse emergency room visits are up 35% during the lockdown. Now, let me tell you what that means. This is very important. Somebody who brings in their child to the emergency room, that's not because
Starting point is 01:26:25 they smacked them around and gave them a black eye. I'm saying this with sadness. These emergency room visits are for children who the parents think they might have killed them. They're unresponsive. They have multiple broken bones. These are the most serious 35% increase in child abuse and that's directly due to the lockdown and I'll explain why. Because when you lose your job, the correlation of amount of child abuse found in a home is directly correlated for lower socioeconomic group, unemployment, alcohol abuse. This is markedly increasing during the lockdown when we know that almost half of people making $40,000 a year or less lost their jobs by far more than people like you and I and so when these people have children and the schools are closed and there's a tremendous amount of
Starting point is 01:27:17 Stress in the household. We know that the emergency room visits are going way up and that's only part a part B Is that do you know where the number one place that child abuse is noticed by an outside person? The school. The school. You close the schools. You have no visibility on the overwhelming majority of child abuse. So this is creating a really catastrophic, sad and simply unspoken harm to the children. You realize, by the way, I didn't mention in the article that when children go to school,
Starting point is 01:27:53 that's the number one place where people with children with need glasses are detected, children that need hearing aids. The school lunch program, for some kids, it's a nutritionally get all day. Yes, exactly So, you know when you shut schools You're really and there's no risk to the children again. There's zero risk to the children. You are directly Harming children. I don't understand how people who claim to be so so focused on children, teachers, teachers unions, I think it's really outrageous. This will go down as the most heinous misapplication
Starting point is 01:28:31 of public policy in modern America. Hospitals on healthcare workers, paramedics, and doctors and nurses, it's really taking a toll on the nation and the healthcare system in general. Especially with the increased number of hospitalizations and cases, it puts a strain during July, which is a very important time of the year because we tend to see more deaths in the month of July because of the new healthcare professionals that are entering the residency program. So we've got a lot to do. It comes down to simple measures.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, stop, stop, stop Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you're about to make something really an important point about masks But what did you tell me you just said that in the month of July you see death rates increase because you've got new Students or medical, you know professionals coming online. Sure. So yes, July is when yes July is you typically the month where we have people who pay doctors, they graduate medical school and they enter residency. So, sometimes we tend to see increase in the rates of medical errors and deaths. That's something that you know is well known in the medical field. So, that just goes to show you we have the
Starting point is 01:29:42 burden of this virus with new doctors on board. Of course, they're always being supervised by professional well-trained doctors. But just something to keep in mind is simple measures of protecting yourself so you don't have to enter the hospital, not only because it's July, but we also have another holiday that we're approaching, Fourth of July next week. We don't want to see a remake of increasing the number of cases like we did with Memorial Day. But again, just simple measures of wearing your mask, a facial cloth covering, physical distancing, avoiding crowds, and keeping your hands washed and clean until we get a vaccine. That's the only way to eradicate this virus. So it appears that 90% of the hospital or of the beds that's possibly available for COVID
Starting point is 01:30:27 patients is occupied. Well, that's actually not accurate. What it means is the current phase that the hospital is in has a 90% occupancy for that particular phase. According to Anmet Hospital, COVID-19 patients only make up about 6% of all current patients and then released this statement at WIFF News 4 regarding the numbers saying in part when our census dropped significantly at the beginning of the COVID-19 outbreak, we appropriately reduced the number of staff beds. We report the fact that our occupancy is high means we are doing a good job of matching our resources to the level of demand during this crisis. Of course, you just heard McMaster mention how we need and want more people to start wearing masks
Starting point is 01:31:09 and social distancing here in South Carolina, the people of Anderson County reiterating that same idea. Josh, I'm sure you would like to talk to this lady because she's very pleasant. Well, trying to get a hold of anyone in this office is just ridiculous. Yes, I have some questions about town. Are people and businesses in Grants Pass supposed to wear masks? Because they're not wearing masks over at the little subway place up north of town. You got a kid drawing your drink and he's giving it because he can't wear a mask.
Starting point is 01:31:49 I mean, aren't restaurant workers supposed to wear masks? And why isn't the guy up there at the little pantry up north of town right before you get on the freeway, why isn't he wearing a mask when he's working while he's coughing? Are masks required at people who work because maybe you better get out and do your goddamn job. Some employees at Whole Foods in Cambridge
Starting point is 01:32:16 wearing masks with a message, but the store sent them home saying wearing those masks violates the company's policy. We are simply asking to support what they say they support and really support each other. That's really all it is. It's basic. It's simple. Matter.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Black lives matter. This Cambridge Whole Foods employee puts on a Black Lives Matter mask while making a delivery outside the River Street store. Employees say they've chosen to walk out for not being allowed to wear them. They told us that we are violating dress code and we stated to them that we're allowed to wear brands that are industry affiliated. Wednesday Savannah Kinzer says seven employees were sent home another 13 Thursday. Whole Foods Market responding saying in part all team members must
Starting point is 01:33:05 comply with our long-standing company dress code which prohibits clothing with visible slogans, messages, logos or advertising that are not company related. The company says employees are offered compliant masks and if they don't want to wear one they can't work. Kinzer says she's run out of the 85 masks they've given out so far. She says the face covering is not a political statement. We're going to continue this and we hope to just normalize it. And we hope that it empowers other people at other stores to do it too.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Because again, it's not about politics. It's simply about inclusion and equity and making sure that everyone feels welcome at Whole Foods. Oh brother, you remember I just forgot about flatten the curve. Flatten the curve everybody let's do it we can do it we can all work together. It was it gonna be two weeks to flatten the curve was it? Ten days? I think it was I think it started off as two weeks yeah. Oh man it It's unbelievable okay, you know and I remember that Tina and I were in Austin still in the other house and I was glued to the TV and then this flattened the curve came up and it was just so obvious that this was not going to Be good. It was not gonna be a good thing. It was it was it was really bad. It was unbelievable
Starting point is 01:34:23 Okay, you're still with us. We appreciate it. Of course, we will be thanking everybody who supported this show and our next show. We'll do that. We'll do a double donation segment on the next show, as we usually do. And what are you planning on doing while I am traveling? Well, I'll probably just lounge. I don't know. Just lounge. Maybe I'll go shopping. I'll not go shopping. Go to Costco. I'll go shopping in real stores, real, you know, stores that you walk into.
Starting point is 01:34:51 I'll go shopping at the Macy's. There you go. The Macy's store in San Francisco, they're shutting it down. It's a big giant store in Union Square. The one on Union Square, they're shutting that one down? They're shutting it down for good because Macy's doesn't know what they're doing. That was the only reason for going to Union Square. Well, now there's going to be no reason to go.
Starting point is 01:35:10 So I'm going to go there and to do some shopping. If I can see what there is, there's really not much more than perfume there, the way I see it. But I'll go shopping last, it'll be the last Christmas at Macy's. Do you think they'll turn that into apartments like they're doing in other malls, like other big stores? It's such a good place for retail, but the place is kind of... Clearly not. The building was built for Macy's. It was like a quarter storey.
Starting point is 01:35:35 I don't know what they're gonna do. That's horrible. San Francisco's a mess. That's right. And now we have the new mayor, who I thought was kind of a Democrat, but he's going to be cracking down, he's going to Trump-proof San Francisco to protect the gay community, by the way, from being deported.
Starting point is 01:35:55 That's what he said on television. He's going to deport the gays? Well, that's what they think Trump's going to do. So these people are nuts. And so the Macy's said, I'll go there and then I'll feel bad about it. Yeah. So that's what I'm going to do while you're gone. Well, and I do, but I do want to remind people that since this is a donation segment, that if they're going to,
Starting point is 01:36:15 just thinking about this particular COVID moment, remember when that all happened and how the show helped, helped the show. Yes Yes, no agenda donations calm, please. Yes. No agenda. Everyone's always saying we help them during during this and it would be great Yeah, I just want to remind everybody a good idea now Let's go back to when the cops were just swarming the cities because we had to make sure everyone was wearing a mask mask up Remember that mask, mask up. Remember that?
Starting point is 01:36:46 Mask up, mask up. Oh yeah, that was the worst. Social distancing, stay away slave, mask up. Back to Stokey Bill's best, if it is such a thing, of COVID. Who have been doing these for the past month, which has put you in contact with more people? Have you been tested for coronavirus? And if so, how frequently are you doing that? No, I have not been protected.
Starting point is 01:37:11 I have not been tested for the coronavirus for two reasons. One, I've had no symptoms, as my mother would say, knock on wood. And number two, I haven't wanted to take anybody else's place in the process. But it's not to say that people aren't dying, it is actually to say that people are dying and people are dying related to an exposure to a respiratory virus. There's huge problems with our diagnostic tool here. PCR is the tool that's been used globally to determine if somebody has COVID or not and PCR stands for polymerase chain reaction.
Starting point is 01:37:45 It's an amplification technique for finding small amounts of DNA. It is a very big dilemma because the presence of that DNA doesn't mean you're ever gonna get sick from that virus. Most of us will have that DNA in our bloodstream for a period of time as we go into our genetic update, as we're taking this virus in, we proliferate the virus to get it
Starting point is 01:38:05 into enough cells in the body, and then we reach homeostasis, where we've taken enough of that genetic information that we stop making it, and so, or we make tiny amounts of it. And so that balance with that DNA has nothing to do with whether we're in a developed disease or not, so again, most people exposed to COVID
Starting point is 01:38:22 were asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic. And so the presence of the DNA has nothing to do with whether that person is going to die in the coming months. Well, let's talk about vaccines. The world is a buzz about vaccines as the way in which we might ultimately get past this and have a chance to go back to something approaching normal life where we can all be back together again, because this risk won't be so high. Where are we Tony with the vaccine efforts that have been moving forward at unprecedented speed?
Starting point is 01:38:51 But of course they were full of scientific challenges. Tell us about that. Yeah, I think the first thing people need to understand that although timetables are given, whenever you're dealing with a vaccine development, there's never a guarantee that your candidate will be both safe and effective. So there's always the big question mark. However, assuming that there will be one and maybe more safe and effective vaccines, here's where
Starting point is 01:39:17 we are with the timeline. There are multiple candidates using different platforms, several of which the United States government and the NIH itself, we are involved in helping to facilitate the development, either directly or indirectly with our sites. If things go the way it looks like they're going, one of these candidates will enter phase three trial for efficacy at the end of July. Other candidates will sequentially come in. Another one at the end of August, one in September, and one in October. And it will be important to encourage people to enroll. So people who are
Starting point is 01:39:57 watching this right now might want to pay attention in two or three weeks to announcements that there might be a vaccine trial enrollment somewhere in your neighborhood, because we will depend on the public to sign up and help us figure this out. Let's be clear, these vaccines have already gone through phase one and phase two trials, so we know that they've been safe,
Starting point is 01:40:20 significant number of individuals, and we know that they seem to be capable of raising antibodies, but we haven't actually done the real testing in the field that is gonna be in the so-called phase three trials. But particularly, Tony, it seems to me, because this disease, COVID-19, has hit particular groups really hard.
Starting point is 01:40:39 And I'm talking about older people, people with chronic disease, African Americans,, Latinos, we want to be sure that the vaccine enrollment includes those folks as well. Are there ways based on past experience where we are sure that outreach will work and we will get people to sign up from those groups? Well, thank you, Francis. What Dr. Collins was referring to, leading me into the answer to the question, was that this is something that we have done with all our HIV trials. There is an analogy here. When you're dealing with HIV, there's a disparity of susceptibility of involvement. 13% of the American population is African American and
Starting point is 01:41:26 45 to 50% of the new infections. So whenever we do treatment and prevention trials through our networks, we outreach through community representatives and community outreach. We're going to use that same model to do the same thing for the African American, Latinx, and Native American populations. In fact, Francis and I right now are very heavily involved in making sure that the trials are quite well represented by the individuals who are most susceptible, not only to infection because of certain circumstances in their life, but also because of the fact that they are more prone to complications because of the fact that they are more prone to complications because of underlying comorbidities.
Starting point is 01:42:09 It's a major goal of the trial to be properly represented. And that's what we're gonna make certainly a high priority. Coming back to the vaccines, I keep getting asked, Tony, okay, so suppose this all looks really good and you have a vaccine that's safe and effective and we start immunizing people, how long will that protection last? When you've got a vaccine,
Starting point is 01:42:32 are you gonna need to take it again? A year later, it'll be like the flu where you have to have a shot every year, or will you get a boost or not? Now, what do you think? Well, this is, Francis, a great question, and it's the reason why we have to be humble about what we do. We do not know the answer to that. We do not know. I mean, you can assume that you're going to get protection at least to
Starting point is 01:42:53 take us through this cycle. When you look at natural infection, it's anywhere between six months to a year. However, with this spike protein that's being presented in the way that we do it, with primes and in some cases boosts, we're going to assume that there's a degree of protection, but we have to assume that it's going to be finite. It's not going to be like a measles vaccine. So there's going to be follow-up in those cases to see if we need a boost. We may need a boost to continue the protection, but right now we do not know how long it lasts.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Herd immunity is something that we've been supporting, and nature supports that. Herd immunity to COVID-19 is just around the corner, new studies say, suggesting humans are rapidly building natural protections against the virus. That's according to at least two new studies by the Karolinska Institute in Sweden and the University Hospital Tübingen in Germany. The studies find at least 30% of humans now have COVID-specific antibodies, which means they've been exposed to weak samples of the virus and effectively equals a natural vaccine. Her immunity is essentially here, it's coming.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Like yesterday when you put up the chart to show where the death levels were from the coronavirus, which is down to zero, I said, well, maybe the epidemic is over. We still need people to wear the mask in public. We still need people to keep social distance and isolation. Ryan, the one thing I want to try to get across today is we need to do that when we're in our homes also. As you know, I'm a lifelong San Antonio and grew up there, worked there for many years, and I know how many multi-generational families that we have. And while we believe the community is
Starting point is 01:44:32 doing a great job of following the rules when they're outside of the home, we really need to be thinking about doing the same thing when we're inside the home. I mean, all of us are capable of catching this disease. None of us are immune from this. And the fact that we need to get across this in order to protect ourselves, we need to protect our families and our loved ones, we really need to be thinking about the care that we're providing inside the home right now to make sure that we're not spreading this disease inside the home and then making it come outside the house. So let me get this straight. What
Starting point is 01:45:02 you're effectively saying is that people should be wearing masks inside their own homes now? Ryan, I'm saying if you can't socially distance and can't socially isolate or if you've been out in public and exposing yourself and you haven't decontaminated yourself good enough when you get home, if you have someone that has underlying medical conditions at home we really need to be thinking about that. Now if you're the same two or three people that are living in the same house and you're really taking care of yourself and you're following all the rules,
Starting point is 01:45:28 then you probably don't need to wear a mask in your home. But if you've gone out for Memorial Day or Fourth of July or you've gone out to parties or you've gone out to graduation parties, when you've gone out and you've come back in, you can be bringing that back inside. And I think it's no secret, we all like to relax when we're at home. But if we're not paying attention to how the virus spreads outside or inside the home, we're
Starting point is 01:45:53 going to keep spreading this virus. Customers and employees boycotting side by side outside of the Whole Foods in Cambridge. We've been told to take our masks off or leave without pay. It's going on day 18. Some employees walking off the job daily after being reprimanded by management for wearing Black Lives Matter face masks at work. I think they should let us support any kind of movement that is human rights and that's equal rights until their bottom line is hurt and they see that people care, I don't think they're going to change.
Starting point is 01:46:30 Even the most loyal of shoppers are changing their minds about the company standing in solidarity with employees. I feel completely uncomfortable giving them any of my dollars. So we've stopped shopping here. A Whole Foods spokesperson told CBS News their dress code policy prohibits visible slogans, messages or logos unrelated to the company, but their employees disagree. We're gay pride pins. We wear Red Sox masks. We wear Bruins masks. We're encouraged to. And I can't understand why they're not changing this policy because it's so small.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Even though some of these employees are on the verge of losing their jobs, they vow to continue to walk out and to speak out until changes are made. The Florida Department of Health releasing its daily coronavirus testing report, showing a statewide positivity rate of 11 percent. But Fox 35 quickly noticing some shocking positivity rates. Countless labs reporting 100 percent positivity. That means every single person tested was positive. We sifted through the reports to find local testing sites with high numbers. Like this CentraCare, 83 people tested and all positive. Check out the Orlando VA, a positivity rate of 76%.
Starting point is 01:47:53 NCF Diagnostics has a location in Alachua, 88% of tests coming back positive, and 98% for Orlando Health. How could that be? We investigated these astronomical numbers, contacting every location mentioned. Orlando Health, the only to respond, confirming errors in the report. Its positivity rate is in fact only 9.4%.
Starting point is 01:48:20 Now we just heard back from the Orlando VA, they are looking into the numbers. We haven't heard back from the Orlando VA. They are looking into the numbers. We haven't heard back from the other two labs or the Florida Health Department of Health. Of course, it makes you wonder if these numbers are wrong. Are other numbers on the report also wrong? We'll stay on top of this story. I have four children. The youngest one is 10 months old.
Starting point is 01:48:42 The biggest concern is flying with kids. I don't want them to get sick. And with like a 10-month-old, she's going to want to crawl, right? And she's at that age where she'll put everything in her mouth, right? And she's always touching things. And then the other concern is, you know, right now, it's hard to trust other people, I think. You have the crowds at the airports going through security. So you're just exposing yourself. More than that, you have people with this virus that may not show symptoms until, you know, you're on the plane and then it's too late. Especially if you're going overseas, you can't go anywhere.
Starting point is 01:49:15 You're stuck. I'll wait. I'll wait as long as I have to. Even when a vaccine comes available, I'm not going to be the first one to run out and get it. I'd like to make sure that it's going to be effective and it works. I mean, if it lasts a year, maybe two years, that's just what we have to do. I mean, you know, I obviously want the kids to get out. I want my wife to go do the things that they want to do.
Starting point is 01:49:38 I want to go do things that I want to do. But at this time, it's just what it is. I mean, so we just kind of have to put up with it and make the best out of our time. Fast over 100 days until election day. And this morning we have a new CBS News battleground tracker out that looks at the presidential race in three states heavily impacted by the coronavirus. That's Arizona, Texas and Florida. Results show former Vice President Joe Biden will be competitive or better in all three states. Mr. Biden and President Trump are tied 46 to 46 in Arizona. President Trump is up 46 to 45 in Texas.
Starting point is 01:50:18 And the former vice president is up by six points, 48 to 42 in Florida. New York's Democratic governor Andrew Cuomo seems to be on something of a victory tour, congratulating the state and himself for defeating the virus, even selling this poster, which shows his state getting over the mountain by bringing down the curve during the 111 days of hell, as the governor put it.
Starting point is 01:50:40 The poster includes references to his daughters and a boyfriend, little inside jokes. There are no illustrations, however, of the more than 32,000 dead New Yorkers, the highest death toll by far of any state. No rendering on that poster of criticism that Governor Cuomo ignored warnings, no depiction of the study that he could have saved thousands of lives had he and Mayor de Blasio acted sooner. No painting there on the poster of his since rescinded order that nursing homes take all infected patients in. Here's what Governor Cuomo had to say yesterday. What we went through and what we did was historic because we did tame the
Starting point is 01:51:20 beast. We did turn the corner. We did plateau that mountain. And then we came down the other side. And they will be talking about what we did for decades to come. And I'll just end with a little global aside, which is the research that's being done about how much better countries run by women have done during the COVID pandemic, from New Zealand to Taiwan, to Germany, to Finland, et cetera. And maybe it's not a very big sample, but the kind of inclusive leadership that actually followed the evidence and listened to science
Starting point is 01:52:01 has proven to be quite effective. You take a picture of me. Does that make you feel better? Why don't you get a life, ladies? Dude, I have a life. And it's going around taking pictures of people. Yes, because what you're doing, can you not follow the lions on the floor?
Starting point is 01:52:15 Keep your mouth running. The governor, the mayor has asked us all to wear a mask. And look at you, not wearing a mask. Oh dear. I wear a mask to protect myself. People have made this sense of a fucking political it's unbelievable now you have accosted me in this store you have a wall that i got to wear a mask if you're gonna keep this up maybe we'll get the police department hang on what'd you call 911 then yeah yeah oh god another one you people are like
Starting point is 01:52:43 monkeys falling out of a tree no you're the monkey that has it Hey, I'll take those knuckles. Did you not buy? Okay, how's that grab you ever heard of the ironism evolution? mister Why don't you go back to where you are? Are you burning crosses Are you burning crosses? Are you burning crosses? People are fucking idiots. No, you're the idiot. Yeah. Yeah. But you're the one playing your life on the freaking computer. You have no life. So this is what your life is doing my Unbelievable. You're unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Good luck with the virus. Good luck with the virus. Your whole family tree is getting cut off at its roots. 85 infants have tested positive for coronavirus in Nueces County, which includes Corpus Christi. The public health director made that announcement this week and urged residents to wear masks and practice social distancing. These babies have not even had their first birthday yet. Please help us to stop the spread of this disease. No other details were provided on the condition of those infants, but Corpus Christi currently has 82 deaths linked to the virus. Chief, so tell us what more do we know about came to be and also about that White House relationship with Dr. Fauci?
Starting point is 01:54:05 Well, what we have seen is an escalating war between the White House and Dr. Fauci. Dr. Fauci has served some five presidents before President Trump, and he's someone who's very restricted, someone who's very restricted. He was someone who also said, before this op-ed was written by Peter Navarro, that the American public should really trust scientists, including himself. The White House, you had your first conversation with American public should really trust scientists, including himself. The White House. You had your first conversation with President Trump, we are told, this week in perhaps a
Starting point is 01:54:32 month or longer. You had a meeting with the White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. But just yesterday, he called you irresponsible for a statement you made comparing, saying that this pandemic could be worse than the 1918 pandemic. You also have been attacked, as you know, by Peter Navarro, the White House advisor. Are you convinced that the White House is not trying to discredit you, Dr. Fauci? I think you've got to be careful when you say the White House. The White House in general is not trying to.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Certainly the president is not. I certainly believe that Mark Meadows is not. What happened with Peter Navarro in that editorial, I can't even comment on that. That just is beyond my comprehension why he did that. But I do not believe that the White House is trying to discredit me. No, I don't. Do you think there are individuals in the White House who are? Well, I already mentioned one.
Starting point is 01:55:31 And Mark Meadows saying you're irresponsible for that comment? Well, what happened there is that that was something that was said in another interview where I went, where there could have been a misunderstanding that I was equating them. So when the thing we wanted it was to correct that, which I did in an interview that I had just like yesterday, I believe, I don't think he was calling me irresponsible as a person. I think he was referring to his concern that there was going to be some misunderstanding. I don't have a problem with that. Mark and I are on very good terms. Let me ask it this way, Dr. Fauci. Do you think you have the full backing and support of the White House from the president on down?
Starting point is 01:56:13 I do. I do. I believe I do. I spoke to the president about that. I believe I do. And why do you think they've been trying to limit your public appearances? Well, I think it's a question of different messages getting out. The real emphasis right now is on more of trying to get the country opened again and economic messages. I don't think there's going to be that many. Yes, it varies. There are some times when I'm on a lot, and there's some times when I'm not.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Here I am with you. You know, I always like to be on with you. I'm glad they said yes to that. And we appreciate it and we appreciate it. Do you have a worry though, Dr. Fauci, that the anti-vaccine movement could interfere with this timetable? Yes, I do because I mean, we have to admit and realize
Starting point is 01:57:02 that there is an anti-vax movement that we've had to struggle with in this country. And I believe the solution to that would be community engagement and community outreach, to get people that are trusted by the community to go out there and explain to them the importance of not only getting engaged in the vaccine trial, but the importance of when the vaccine is shown to be safe and effective to actually take the vaccine, because it could be lifesaving and it certainly would be the solution to this terrible pandemic.
Starting point is 01:57:39 We're not just fighting an epidemic. We're fighting an infodemic. This famous quote from WHO director general has been widely shared. So what is an infodemic. This famous quote from WHO Director General has been widely shared. So what is an infodemic? An infodemic is an excessive amount of information about a problem, making it difficult to identify a solution. During a health emergency, an infodemic can drown out reliable information and allow rumors to spread more easily, impeding an effective public health response.
Starting point is 01:58:04 Why is it happening now? Information can spread faster than a virus. With rapid growth of digital communications and social media platforms, information spreads fast from online to our physical lives. And how does it affect us? Online information can negatively affect our psychology, daily lives, and behaviors, worsening the ongoing crisis at hand. Infodemics make it difficult to recognize accurate and reliable information that tells
Starting point is 01:58:28 people what preventative actions they should take. Some even promote stigma, discrimination, or violence. Therefore, we all play an important role to share trustworthy information and reduce disinformation. Here are simple actions we can do to mitigate the infodemic. 1. Look for facts and evidence. Be critical when receiving information. Question the source for accuracy and evidence.
Starting point is 01:58:51 Compare with other sources. 2. Choose carefully. Share, like, or forward only content from trusted sources. 3. Be cautious. Do not reshare forward or like false information you know is not true. 4.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Be a good example – Correct or call out people in your social networks when they post something untrue. Refer them to verified content and export organizations for further information. 5. Spend less time online – Only seek the latest information at specific times of the day, once or twice a day if needed. Exercise, listen to music, or read a book. This helps to maintain good physical and mental health.
Starting point is 01:59:29 Together, let's combat disinformation and misinformation. Turn the infodemic into a positive information experience. One that promotes facts and science. Today, my administration reached a historic agreement with Pfizer to produce and deliver 100 million doses of their vaccine immediately following its approval. Hopefully the approval process will go very quickly and we think we have a winner there. We also think we have other companies right behind that are doing very well in the vaccines, long ahead of schedule. As part of Operation Warp Speed, this agreement will also ensure that we receive an additional 500 million doses shortly thereafter. This is another crucial step in our effort to develop, manufacture, and distribute a vaccine in record
Starting point is 02:00:22 break-in time, really a very small fraction of the time, based on previous schedules. I want to thank the FDA, I want to thank everybody involved, it's been an incredible process. So I think the first issue with the trial is that, what's significant is that the president and the government agreed to offer solidarity and participate in the trial, which is being led by Oxford University through South Africa's Birch University. The difficulty, of course, is one, trying to secure a sufficient number of volunteers
Starting point is 02:00:54 for the trial, as you correctly point out, within a climate where the numbers of people living with COVID are increasing, and we also estimate that that is a significant undercount because our testing strategy has been hampered by the lack of available testing kits. So the criteria for testing has changed and in effect it amounts to rationing at the moment.
Starting point is 02:01:20 The second issue with the trial, which actually involves quite significantly a pharmaceutical company called AstraZeneca, and the issue around AstraZeneca's relationship with Oxford, the relationship with the South African government as in the contractual relationship, including which university and clinical participants in other parts of the world, in Brazil as well, is unclear. We calling for transparency in those agreements because on the one hand, if we are going to participate in a trial that is trying to ensure equitable access to a vaccine, if it is successful.
Starting point is 02:02:00 And I had a nurse at Walder Reed Hospital Reed Hospital who would bend down and whisper in my ear go home and get me pillows they would make sure they'd actually probably nothing ever taught in you can't do it in the COVID time but they'd actually breathe in my nostrils to make me move to get get me moving. I understand hospitals are so overwhelmed in one county in southern Texas so that doctors have to choose who to send home to die. What are you learning? Hey, Wolfo, this is happening in Starr County down there in south Texas,
Starting point is 02:02:35 an area that has been the hotspot within this Texas hotspot. County officials there saying at the county hospital in Starr County that they're going to create essentially ethics and triage teams to go through the patients and determine which patients can be treated there at the hospital and which patients might be too sick to be treated and have to go home and and wait to die essentially. This because the number of COVID patients has exploded there
Starting point is 02:03:03 over the course of just the last month. County officials say they didn't have any COVID patients about a month ago. Now they have more than 1,400, more than 40 added to the rolls there yesterday. So a great deal of concern there. Hospitalizations and deaths up. The number of overall new cases is beginning to show signs of plateauing, but there's still disturbing details in this medical data. Here in Dallas County, the county judge announced that one of the people who died today was a five-year-old child. The top 10 videos that spread lies about you had almost 5 million views. It's also pointed out that according to Zignal Labs, which is a media analysis company that
Starting point is 02:03:39 tracks this, misinformation about you is the most widespread of all coronavirus falsehoods. So there's a conspiracy theory that one of one of our viewers asked about. I just want to play that that sound. What would you say to the fringe portions of the public like conspiracy theorists that seem to think that you're somehow responsible for the outbreak. There's also a conspiracy theory that you're pushing vaccines because you're gonna inject people with a tracking device when they get the vaccine. It's all part of a so-called globalist plot
Starting point is 02:04:12 to control the world. QAnon folks are, you know, which is actually a group that's been targeting me as well lately. They're claiming falsely that I'm somehow connected with Jeffrey Epstein and global cabalists of sex traffickers. It's insane. What do you say to people who believe this stuff?
Starting point is 02:04:28 Because I mean, I'm sure you are inundated, like I am, by people direct messaging me just insane stuff. It's not at all. I mean, I can tell you, I get stuff from people who seem, you know, they have lives, they have families. I don't know if they genuinely believe this and they've just been misled. But, you know, and for me, it's, you know,
Starting point is 02:04:45 they claim I was on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane and going to his island with Tom Hanks, or, I mean, just insane, crazy stuff. What do you, I mean, do you think, I know internet companies are looking at this. Do you wish that they would play a role in taking stuff down, which is as demonstrably false? Because, I mean, it does have real world,
Starting point is 02:05:06 possibly, you know, it does have real world impact on vaccines or, you know, a nut showing up to a pizza parlor in Washington, DC with a gun. Yeah, in some cases they are taking things down. You know, it's a bad combination, a pandemic and social media and people looking for very simple explanation. Who's the bad guy here? And a lot of that's been connected to politics, more in the U.S. than in other locations.
Starting point is 02:05:37 And, you know, of course, vaccines weren't popular with everybody even before this all started. So I'm a big believer in getting the truth out, and it's kind of not as titillating to say, Cooper is innocent. Oh, well, that's not as exciting. You don't forward that to quite as many people as you do the acquisition. On Tuesday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention revealed the actual number of coronavirus infections nationwide may be 24 times higher than the public count.
Starting point is 02:06:20 This comes as the Trump administration is opposing more federal funding for COVID-19 testing. The White House has refused to spend up to $8 billion already allocated for testing, even though many states and cities face severe testing shortages. This morning, as COVID cases mount across the country, the mass debate is intensifying. People are very passionate on both sides of the great mass debate. The partisan mass debate is heating up. Mass debate is growing. The president is trying to have us cover the mass debate. CBS, Target and Walgreens are getting in on the mass debate. The mass debate now
Starting point is 02:06:56 taking center stage at local restaurants. It's nine minutes after six now and there's new video of a raging mass debate. The mass debate in Georgia is getting ugly. The great mass debate in West Virginia might soon be coming to an end. This mass debate is far from over. How many mass debates have you gotten into? Love to hear it. The mass debate was taken to a whole other level. Bishop David Zubik tells Pittsburgh's Action News 4 he found himself in the middle of a mass debate. We'll dive deeper into this pet store mass debate. So we're going to begin with this thing we're calling the great mass debateate. So we're going to begin with this thing. We're calling the great mastibate Think we're going to get to a point where eye protection is recommended
Starting point is 02:07:31 You know it might I mean if you really want perfect protection of your mucosal surfaces just for your your your audience Jen as you know, we all know you have mucosa in the nose mucosa in the mouth But you also have mucosa in the eye, mucosa in the mouth, but you also have mucosa in the eye. And that's one of the things that, you know, theoretically, you should protect all the mucosal surfaces. So if you have goggles or an eye shield, you should use it. I mean, it's not universally recommended, but if you really want to be complete, you should probably use it. If you can, it's probably use it if you can. It's just that it's so easy for people to just make a cloth mask.
Starting point is 02:08:09 The Moderna vaccine sounds concerning. We looked. After the second dose, at least 80% of participants experienced a systemic side effect ranging from severe chills to fevers. So are these vaccines safe? Well, the FDA not being pressured will look hard at that. The FDA is the gold standard of regulators and their current guidance on on this, if they stick with that, is very, very appropriate. And the side effects were not super severe. That is, it didn't cause permanent health problems
Starting point is 02:08:55 for the things that are, you know, Moderna did have to go with a fairly high dose. And so, you know, to get the antibodies, some of the other vaccines are going able to go with lower doses to get responses that are pretty high, including the J&J and the Pfizer. And so there's a lot of characteristics of these vaccines. It's great that we have multiple of them that are going out there. And yes, I think the US government... But Bill, you know the data better than I do.
Starting point is 02:09:29 But the data show that everybody with a high dose had a side effect. Yeah, but some of that is not dramatic where it's just super painful. But yes, we need to make sure there's not severe side effects. The FDA, I think, will do a good job of that despite the pressure. How many doses of the vaccine will we need? Well, none of the vaccines at this point appear like they'll work with a single dose. That was the hope at the very beginning. Maybe one of them, particularly in the second generation, won't surprise us. We hope just two, although in the elderly, sometimes it takes more. And so making sure we have lots of elderly people in the trial will give us that data.
Starting point is 02:10:17 The gentleman yields back. I would remind Mr. Jordan, Mr. Biggs and Mr. Johnson to stop violating the rules of the committee, to stop violating the rules of the committee, to stop violating the safety of the members of the committee, to stop holding themselves out as not caring by refusing to wear their masks. Is it permissible to drink a sip of coffee? It is not permissible. Not to drink. We can't drink coffee in the room.
Starting point is 02:10:41 I'm getting ready to ask questions now. I'm getting ready to ask questions. Mr. Gates is recognized. No, no, no. He's already went. not to drink we can't drink coffee in the room now get ready to ask Mr. Gates is recognized no no no he's not he went and that's why I took up my mess mr. chairman I'm gonna go I'm gonna go okay mr. Jordan is recognized and it wasn't claiming my time in April president Trump irresponsibly suggested that the American people inject themselves with bleach. Was that superb?
Starting point is 02:11:08 Yes or no? That's not what I heard. That's exactly what he said. That's what the American people heard. And you know it and you can't defend it. Let's move on to May. Tonight, the startling new prediction from the CDC. America could see 20,000 more deaths in the next three weeks.
Starting point is 02:11:28 And Florida, in the middle of a pandemic, now bracing for a hurricane. Florida's governor declaring a state of emergency, shutting down COVID testing sites. The president on the ground there tonight greeting a crowd of supporters without masks. All this as Hurricane Isaías pounds the Caribbean with devastating floods. and on the ground there tonight greeting a crowd of supporters without masks. All this as Hurricane Isaias pounds the Caribbean with devastating floods and is now threatening major cities along the East Coast. Deadline looming. More than 25 million Americans will lose critical unemployment aid at midnight as Congress goes
Starting point is 02:12:01 home for the weekend without reaching a deal. Unfounded attacks on mail-in voting. The president continues to undermine the long-standing practice of voting by mail. Growing concerns that the U.S. Postal Service, led by one of President Trump's biggest donors, is slowing mail service. Is the mail backing up? Is it getting delayed. Democrats tonight accuse President Trump of undermining democracy.
Starting point is 02:12:30 Bitcoin busts tonight. Florida authorities arrest the mastermind behind that Twitter attack of 130 accounts, including President Obama, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk. Turns out he's 17 years old. And tonight, CBS's Steve Hartman is on the road with a local businessman who's helping send 75 kids to college. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Dr. Fauci, do protests increase the spread of the virus? Do protests increase the spread of the virus? Do protests increase the spread of the virus? I think I can make a general statement.
Starting point is 02:13:09 Well, half a million protesters on June 6th alone. I'm just asking, that number of people, does it increase the spread of the virus? Crowding together, particularly when you're not wearing a mask, contributes to the spread of the virus. Should we limit the protesting? I'm not sure what you mean. How do we we limit the protesting? I'm not sure what you mean. Should how do we say limit the protesting? Should government limit the protesting? I don't think that's relevant to... Well you just said if it increases the spread of the virus I'm just asking should we limit it?
Starting point is 02:13:38 Well I'm not in a position to determine what the government can do in a forceful way. Well you make all kinds of recommendations. You make comments on dating, on baseball, on everything you can imagine. I'm just asking you. You just said that protests increased the spread. I'm just asking you, should we try to limit the protests? No, I think I would leave that to people who have more of a position to do that. I can tell you. Government stopping people from going to church, Dr. Fauci.
Starting point is 02:14:00 Yeah. Last week in the Calvary Chapel case, five liberals on the Supreme Court said it was okay for Nevada to limit church services. I mean, Justice Gorsuch said it best. He said, there's no world in which the Constitution permits Nevada to favor Caesar's palace over Calvary Chapel. I'm just asking, is there a world where the Constitution says you can favor one First
Starting point is 02:14:20 Amendment liberty protesting over another, practicing your faith? I'm not favoring anybody over anybody. I'm just making a statement that's a broad statement that avoid crowds of any type, no matter where you are, because that leads to the acquisition and transmission. And I don't judge one crowd versus another crowd. When you're in a crowd, particularly if you're not wearing a mask, that induces the spread. It's a simple question, doctor. Should we limit the protest? Government is obviously limiting people going to church. And look, there's been no violence that I can see at church. I haven't seen
Starting point is 02:14:56 people during a church service go out and harm police officers or burn buildings, but we know that. I mean, for 63 days, nine weeks, it's been happening in Portland. One night in Chicago, 49 officers were injured, but we know that, I mean, for 63 days, nine weeks, it's been happening in Portland. Right. Yeah. Well, one night in Chicago, 49 officers were injured, but no limit to protest, but boy, you can't go to church on Sunday. What was this? I don't know how many times I can answer that.
Starting point is 02:15:17 I'm not going to opine on limiting anything. I'm just going to tell you. You've opined on a lot of things, Dr. Fauci. Yeah, but I've never seen... This is something that directly impacts the spread of the virus, and I'm asking your position tell you. You've opined on a lot of things, Dr. Fauci. Yeah, but I've never seen something that directly impacts the spread of the virus. And I'm asking your position on the protest. Yeah. Well, I'm not going to opine on limiting anything.
Starting point is 02:15:31 I'm telling you what it is the danger. And you can make your own conclusion about that. You should stay away from crowds, no matter where the crowds are. Government has stopped people from going to work. In fact, just in New Jersey four days ago, Ian Smith and Frank Trombetta were arrested for opening up, for trying to operate their business, their gym. They were arrested. But my bet is if these two individuals who own this gym were outside just in front of
Starting point is 02:16:02 their gym and all the people who were working out in their gym were outside protesting. They'd been just fine. But because they were in the gym working out, actually running their business, they got arrested. Do you think that's okay? You know, I'm not going to a point on who gets arrested and who does not. I mean, you get where I'm going. I'm telling you, as a public health official, I say crowds.
Starting point is 02:16:23 You see the inconsistency though, Dr. Fauci? There's no inconsistency, Congressman. There's no inconsistency. So you're allowed to protest millions of people on one day in crowds yelling, screaming, but you try to run your business, you get arrested? And if you stood right outside of that same business and protested, you wouldn't get arrested? You don't see any inconsistency there? I don't understand what you're asking me as a public health official to opine on who should get arrested or not
Starting point is 02:16:46 That's not my position. You could ask you that you've advocated for certain businesses You've advocated for certain businesses to be shut down. I'm just asking you on your position on the protest I mean, I haven't seen one We've heard a lot about hair salons. I haven't seen one hairstylist who between haircuts goes out and attacks police or sets something on fire. But we've seen all kinds of that stuff during protests and we know the protest actually increased the spread of the virus. You've said that. I said crowds. I didn't say specifically. I didn't say protest do anything. So the protest don't increase the spread of the virus? I didn't say that. You're putting words in my mouth. No, I want, I would, I just want an answer to the question. Do the protests increase the spread of the virus. I didn't say that you're putting words in my mouth No, I want I would I just want an answer to the question. Do the protests increase the spread of the virus?
Starting point is 02:17:27 I I don't have any scientific evidence that anything I can tell you that crowds are known particularly when you don't have a mask to increase the acquisition and Transmission no matter what you don't have a position on whether the protest increased the spread of the virus or don't increase the spread of the virus or don't increase the spread of the virus? I'm saying that crowds, wherever the crowds are, can give you an increased probability that there's going to be acquisition and transmission. But do you understand Americans' concern? Protesting according, particularly according to the Democrats, is just fine, but you can't
Starting point is 02:18:02 go to work, you can't go to school, you can't go to church. There's limits placed on all three of those fundamental activities, First Amendment activities, but protesting is just fine. But will you get to meet with them in person, do you think? Will you be able to meet with them face to face? Well, we'll see. You're gonna have to wear masks. They have to wear masks. Will you get tested? Do you think if you have to do that for COVID? I'm not prepared to say much more than that right now. Thank you. You wear the mask so you don't make somebody else sick. Sick. What's with this guy? Steve, that's our time. OK. Take off your mask! Take off your mask! Take off your mask! I don't believe that it's quite as deadly as our government is leading us all to be. I think it's more, it's going to be more to do with the vaccine. And they want everyone to have the vaccine, even though we don't want it, basically.
Starting point is 02:19:05 So that's why I'm here, just giving my support. So we are here exercising our democratic right to assemble. I'm concerned about the way the country is going in terms of monetary face masks used. Now this is my body, I used to be a nurse, a mental health nurse, and one of the things we learnt as mental health nursing students is that it is considered battery to imp impossibly put something on a person's body without their consent. Covid-19 was called Covid-19 because it's 19 years since the last bloody disaster which was the made-up twin tower explosions. Covid actually stands for, look I can't remember what it is, I've had half a beer.
Starting point is 02:19:45 But this is all just a reset button, this is to hurry things up. They want to get Trump off his perch, this is the only way they can do it. They've got to stop those elections, they've got to get the Democrats in, they've got to get old sleepy Joe Biden in. What they're looking to do is get the blacks uprising by these Antifa riots, the democrat states bloody melting down at the moment because their councillors are all brown enveloped, they're all paid off. We know it's corrupt around the whole western nations, everywhere, the councillors are all paid off, they're all marxists, all playing the chinese game because China own pays their wages. That's it.
Starting point is 02:20:21 I mean it's like pastime for us to have a debate about hydroxychloroquine. Well we shouldn't be but let me just say of all, there's many millions of doctors in this country. There's five peer-reviewed studies that show it not to be true. There's Dr. Birx, there's Dr. Giroir, there's Dr. Fauci. Hang on, hang on. And to that study particularly, Dr. Fauci said that study is a flawed study. But I need to do this, Peter, because what you're saying is irresponsible.
Starting point is 02:20:44 All right, let me say this to you. Okay, and I reach out to all your viewers Scott Adams, you know Scott Adam Adams, right? He's the guy who wrote the Dilbert cartoon he did a beautiful video 10-minute video on Twitter and the thesis of the video is that CNN might be killing thousands because of the way they've treated that. So I would just ask, I'll let Scott Adams' video be my defense on this. Okay, well can I just say something? I find that to be offensive because he's a comic strip writer.
Starting point is 02:21:15 So for you to say that he... Understood. Okay? So I just want to give you, because I want to be clear. I just said Dr. Fauci. The person that the President of the United States has in charge of testing. Well, I said Dr. O'Neill. Dr. Brett Giroir.
Starting point is 02:21:27 As of today, and I say as of today at this hour, we have 33 confirmed positive tests for the virus. Yesterday we had 22 cases. Today we have 33 cases. So it's gone up by 11. That brings, those are 11 new cases. 22 goes to 33. And we have a total of 33 cases.
Starting point is 02:21:42 And we have a total of 33 cases. And we have a total of 33 cases. And we have a total of 33 cases. And we have a total of 33 cases. And we have a total of 33 cases. And we have a total of 33 cases. That brings, those are 11 new cases, 22 go to 33. As we sort through this here in Arkansas, today we have 33 confirmed positive cases in Arkansas. As of today, we have 33 confirmed cases with Boston residents. We expect those numbers to climb. As of this afternoon, we have 33 Pennsylvanians who have tested positive for COVID-19.
Starting point is 02:22:17 So as of this morning, there were 33 confirmed cases in North Carolina. Good evening to you. Lots to get to tonight. I'm Leon Henberts. We wanna start with new information into our newsroom within the past couple of hours. There are now 33 confirmed cases of the coronavirus in Michigan.
Starting point is 02:22:35 Good evening, everyone. Thanks for joining us for the news at six. I'm Richard Gerard. Karina Corral has the night off. More cases of the coronavirus were confirmed today in San Luis Obispo County, bringing the total number now to 33. Right now, Georgia is reporting a total of 99 cases in 19 counties. That is 33 new cases from just yesterday. Good afternoon, I'm Karen Swenson. More cases and more events
Starting point is 02:23:00 affected. Here is the latest coronavirus news news there are now 33 cases in Louisiana. As expected as expected the number of cases of COVID-19 jumps a total of 33 people in our state have been tested and are confirmed to have the coronavirus. Day four of the shelter at home order brought six new confirmed cases of the coronavirus to San Luis Obispo County bringing the total number to 33. All troopers will be professional, polite, and will treat everyone with dignity and respect. These latest steps is the number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in Rhode Island jumps by 33 overnight. Dr. Fauci, great to see you again. Alison here. Hi. I have been listening with rapt attention, but I feel like John didn't get to the really burning question that America has for you, and
Starting point is 02:23:49 that is, did you hear that Brad was nominated for an Emmy for playing you? Yes, I did. What a surreal world we're living in, Allison. I mean, I hope he wins. He's a great actor. I mean, he's one of my favorite actors. So I really do hope he wins. Have you spoken to him since he played you? You know, I have not. I would love to meet him because I've been such a great admirer of him and his talent, but I have not spoken to him. I feel like we can make that happen. Dr. Fauci. I feel like we, you know, you and I have the power to have you meet Brad because I sort of you know, you and I have the power to have you meet Brad
Starting point is 02:24:25 because I sort of feel like anything you and I suggest he does. Well, we'll see. We'll see. Thanks, Alison. I'm not done with you, Dr. Fauci. Would you like to go up on stage when he wins? Would you like to be there to help accept the Emmy Award? Yeah. You know, Alison, the only reason I have hesitancy about that is that we're in the middle of an outbreak, a really bad pandemic. And I think that if that association with kind of show business thing might be misinterpreted, that it's I'm not serious about what I'm doing. So I'd rather focus on my job and really wish him well that he wins. I was there was gonna be a point that I pushed you too far and I feel that we have just gotten Gone up to that point, but we really appreciate how playful you have been on the lighter note
Starting point is 02:25:17 With all of that and it was just great I mean it was just a great moment to watch You know that obviously Brad Pitt is a fan of yours and all of your information as well. You had all of those claims yesterday. Now you've got new claims today that we just reported. These guards were taking cash in hand while also claiming jobkeeper payments and also taking guests out to supermarkets and 7-elevens and what have you.
Starting point is 02:25:42 I mean, what do you make of all of that? Well, this is a scandal of monumental proportions. I mean, this is a complete fiasco. And not one single minister in Daniel Andrews' government here in Victoria has taken responsibility for this fiasco, whether that be the police minister Lisa Neville, the health minister Jenny McCarkos, the Jobs Minister Martin Bacula, or indeed the Premier Daniel Andrews. I mean, there are allegations that security guards were bonking those in quarantine.
Starting point is 02:26:13 I mean, this is just quite extraordinary. What is the actual recommendation by the FDA or the CDC to doctors? What is it you are being told if your patient tests positive, here is what we're recommending you do? Let's say literally nothing that I know of. It is stay home in isolation for two weeks and then potentially either get retested again or even that is muddy. And I think one of the biggest points throughout this is people have become so fear-based because of the fear-mongering mainstream media
Starting point is 02:26:54 that most people are living in their amygdala, this reptilian, fear-based part of our brain, and when you do that, critical thinking is out the window. So people are not, they've lost critical thinking, they're reacting with this you know immediate response from programming. So for me it's look at medicine, it is not black and white. It is called the art of medicine. It's the practice of medicine because we look at all kinds of things to come up with a program Richard you with us
Starting point is 02:27:27 right now is that when the Coronavirus took over President Trump and all his colonies in that White House knew about it and took their money out of the stock market and nobody is Doing anything about it and now that the stock market is back up They put their money back in and nobody is doing anything about it and now the stock market is back up they put their money back in and nobody has caught that yet and the other thing is we need to move this world ahead we've been here 50 million years they say well I'm 56 tomorrow and I don't understand why we're not in the
Starting point is 02:28:02 Star Wars like Star Trek we can make movies about it But we can't be there. Why are we not so far ahead? Why are our brains not moving up forward? Why is all this money going to all these people that are way up high and None of it is being put back into our society move us ahead Move us forward get out of debt, get out of the world, move us forward, we should be in Star Trek era. And I don't understand why 50 million people for 50 million years can't move us forward.
Starting point is 02:28:37 Richard, thanks for the call. You're calling from- I'm not for that ticket though. Tonight, the new warning from the postal service, your ballot might not get counted. that ticket though. Tonight the new warning from the Postal Service your ballot might not get counted. President Trump threatens to hold up funding as the post office tells states it can't handle millions of mail-in votes this November. Will your ballot be delivered in time? Start projection. The CDC says as
Starting point is 02:29:01 many as 200,000 people could be killed by the coronavirus before Labor Day. The White House Task Force warns one state the virus is widespread and expanding. And as Texas closes in on 10,000 deaths, high schools in another hot spot vote to play football this fall. Could the mask you're wearing be worse than no mask at all? The new research and the government guidance on which face coverings work and which ones don't. Conspiracy Theory President Trump questions if Joe Biden's new running mate is eligible to be on the ticket.
Starting point is 02:29:36 She is. Why some are calling the false attack on Senator Kamala Harris racist. The first interview from one of the officers in the George Floyd case. What he told investigators about that neon neck maneuver and his first reaction when he learned Floyd was dead. Out of control blaze, a second major wildfire torches Southern California. Will this weekend's weather make the situation even more dangerous? Too close for comfort. The shocking video as a wild bison violently attacks a tourist. Why experts say the animal isn't to blame.
Starting point is 02:30:13 And on the road, or at least the side ofing News with Norah O'Donnell, reporting from the nation's capital. Good evening and thank you for joining us. Norah is off. I'm Margaret Brennan. Today, California topped 600,000 confirmed cases, the most of any state since the pandemic began. As positivity rates remain above the recommended levels for reopening across much of the country, Dr. Fauci again warned against reopening too quickly. In your understandable zeal to quickly get back to normal and revive the economy, you can do it if you do it in a measured, prudent way. To think that
Starting point is 02:31:07 you can ignore the biologic, it's just not going to happen. Looking ahead to a possible vaccine, the CDC has reportedly reached out to four states, including Florida, as well as the city of Philadelphia, to begin drafting plans on how they would store and distribute a vaccine, including who gets priority. Margaret? Well, as the battle against COVID-19 continues, it's also time to get ready for flu season. And this year there are concerns about a possible twindemic. They're calling it a potential twindemic. The coronavirus pandemic still going strong
Starting point is 02:31:41 at the same time flu season is approaching. A new term. You could be hearing more this fall twin Demick and she says the earlier we get our flu shots, the less likely we'll end up in a twin Demick. The earlier you get that shot, the sooner you have immunity. This year with the COVID-19 pandemic expected to coincide with flu season, doctors say the concern over a possible twin Demick underscores the need for people to get the flu vaccine. Do you know the term twin Demick? It's what they're calling a twin Demick. So Tom, the twin dynamic is exactly how it sounds. I want to ask you more, but is twin Demick a new word? Did we just make
Starting point is 02:32:17 this up or have we experienced or use the term twin Demick in the past? As far as I know, I think it's made up. So especially coined for what we're going through. But but it's coined, I think based on the Latin for where the pandemic comes from. So the flu shot will be required for all students in Massachusetts. The Department of Public Health just announcing this that all Children from the age of six months to those enrolled in college must receive an influenza vaccine by December 31st in order to attend school in January. Exemptions apply to students with medical or religious reasons and those
Starting point is 02:32:57 who are homeschooled and higher education students who are completely off-campus. State health officials say this new requirement is an important step to reduce flu related illnesses and the overall impact of respiratory illness during the COVID-19 pandemic. There will be strong, you know, I suspect the majority of Australians will get vaccinated and there will be a strong public view
Starting point is 02:33:23 that those who choose not to get vaccinated there needs to be some sort of incentive stick perhaps through the current programmes, including No Jab No Pay to make that happen. So I think that is a very reasonable interpretation of what the PM had to say today. Again, looking at specific things like not being able to go into restaurants, not being able to travel internationally. Police are preparing to launch their aerial arsenal as part of a crackdown
Starting point is 02:33:59 on COVID rule breakers. High powered drones will be used to find people not wearing masks and cars too far from home. Over the next week, Victoria Police will dispatch drones. They'll be keeping a watch on St Kilda and Port Melbourne Beach, making sure skate parks and playgrounds remain empty and for those who head to the park, a mask is a must or at least a face covering. Police have also been using drones to guard the New South Wales border. There's no escaping this high-powered aerial arsenal. It can be flown for seven kilometres, the camera is infrared and it's so clear it can read a
Starting point is 02:34:41 vehicle's number plate from 500 metres away. It doesn't really bother me, I'm doing the right thing, so I've got nothing to hide. And while this virus touches us all, we've got to be honest, it is not an equal opportunity offender. Black, Latino and Indigenous people are suffering and dying disproportionately. And this is not a coincidence. It is the effect of structural racism. How much damage has been done by the kind of conspiracy theories that have grown up, particularly on social media, even frankly about you personally, you know, you caused
Starting point is 02:35:15 the pandemic. I mean, it's very ad hominem now. Is that is that sort of, you know, something you could brush aside? Do you think there's real damage done by that that kind of conspiracy theory? You know, it's hard for me because I'm so, you know, science oriented to even, you know, go, oh, come on, not really. People don't really believe that, you know, those things are completely untrue. And to the degree they cause people not to wear masks or seek out the vaccine, you know, or to think this is all some big conspiracy, that's unfortunate. And, you know, countries where the leaders have been more clear, you know, have had more compliance on the masks and social distancing. So that's been a benefit to them.
Starting point is 02:36:04 I think it'll die down. I mean a pandemic is a time when it's not totally surprising that people's concern and reaching for over simplistic explanations gets a little bit higher and weirdly it's come at the time of an election in the US that's fairly polarized. So a lot of things, there seems to be some confluence between social media, election and pandemic that have this at a level that I certainly never expected to be mentioned in any of those things because we were pretty obscure doing our work on infectious disease,
Starting point is 02:36:42 which is mostly in poor countries, and this has gotten infectious diseases and crazy ideas about them into the rich countries in a way that you never would have predicted. The values of the foundation are about saving lives. We have a great track record of achieving that. So I'm not somebody who can complain because I've had, you know, this amazing life and get to do this amazing work.
Starting point is 02:37:09 Now let's turn to the US because it's the country, you know, it's the world's biggest economy, it's the preeminent public health country in the world, it's got the world's best epidemiologists. Why is it done so badly? Well, we believe in freedom, individual freedom. We optimize for individual rights. You know there's some bad luck in this that the the CDC's initial test was slow, complicated, didn't work. They didn't let the commercial labs come in. We messed up getting that commercial lab capacity going. We never created a CDC website that would prioritize who is tested so that both we didn't overload the system to avoid taking more than 24 hours to give you
Starting point is 02:37:56 results and we were making sure low-income communities and people who really needed the tests were getting them as opposed to wealthy people who like to be tested or on a regular basis or force their delivery people or people people who really needed the tests were getting them as opposed to wealthy people who like to be tested on a regular basis or force their delivery people or people who work in their house to be tested every week. So we've had a very uncoordinated testing thing, even though we have way more PCR machines than any country. And we performed at this point, although that was slow to get going, we performed a lot of tests.
Starting point is 02:38:26 But the delayed results and the fact that people's behavior, even if they test positive, doesn't change their behavior as much as other countries to take them out of the infection pool, that's where unfortunately we had a continued high level of infection through the summer. Governments have been using a range of Orwellian mind control tricks during the coronavirus crisis. The slogans, the clapping and the cymbals have been carefully used to enable the authorities to take control of our thinking. I'm grateful to Dr Colin Barron, a former NHS doctor and eminent hypnotherapist who's the author of the book Practical Hypnotherapy for pointing
Starting point is 02:39:09 out to me just how our minds have been taken over and how we've been very successfully and skilfully manipulated into believing the lies we've been fed. Elected governments aided by specialist behavioral scientists have been brainwashing millions into accepting the coronavirus propaganda the rhythm and pattern used in these phrases is not a coincidence there are usually three words in each phrase and the phrase is run in threes this isn't a coincidence it isn't happen chance using phrases of three words presented in groups of three is a technique known as the rule of three in psychological conditioning. That's
Starting point is 02:39:50 the reason for the three phrases with which we're all being bombarded. We're being trained and taught at the same time. It's behavioral psychology. Other hypnotherapists have pointed out that if we repeat phrases often enough then the words and thoughts become implanted in our subconscious minds and then become a belief which motivates our behavior. And so governments repeat slogans which become beliefs. It's called auto suggestion along the lines of every day in every way I'm getting better and better. George Orwell who invented Newspeak also understood the importance of the triple three word phrase. In 1984, his futuristic novel, which was written in
Starting point is 02:40:31 1948, Orwell invented the slogan, war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength. If you want a picture of the future, wrote Orwell, imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever. We are taking a moment to recognise that the throne speech we delivered eight months ago had no mention of COVID-19, had no conception of the reality we find ourselves in right now. We need to reset the approach of this government for a recovery, to build back better. And those are big important decisions. And we need to present that to Parliament and gain the confidence of Parliament to move forward on this ambitious plan. Somehow we've let politics overrule science.
Starting point is 02:41:19 And it's an absurd situation. People have compared this to 1984 and the Ministry of Truth and so on that's limiting what people can say on objective facts. It's beyond belief. Here's the thing. I think they know that the treatment works. I think that basically they're afraid to even let it be tried because letting it be tried would show that it works.
Starting point is 02:41:42 So the message has to be shut at all costs, because anything will leak out. And in fact, it is leaking out. And you see across the country people who started to speak up, who have become almost deathly ill and have been turned around in three days, or sooner even. And these are now public figures who are speaking up, who have said that the medicine saved their life. it's very difficult to you know close all the leaks in that dike that are being suppressed by the media that are trying to do that. We are seeing fights like this go viral. Where businesses find themselves at times in verbal or physical confrontations with customers
Starting point is 02:42:31 trying to enforce mask requirements often under state or county orders. Horrifying videos, you know, they're horrifying. They're just, they're just, they're not fun. Steve Reinhardt is CEO of Robotic Assistance Devices and he's trying to take the ugliness out of these encounters by deploying a a face mask analytic. So w for people with face masc without face masks on. Th Rosa, which means respons agent. When Rosa recogniz
Starting point is 02:43:00 to enter a business witha and see the warning im. It is a non-biased, non-confrontational approach to reminding people to wear their face masks. The robots creator acknowledges someone could choose to ignore the messages. Required to wear face masks. But he says businesses are bracing for the possibility they'll have to enforce COVID-19 safety measures
Starting point is 02:43:23 for years to come. And they hope to avoid scenes like this. Do you have a machine tell you to do something? It blows my mind that the level of compliance is just skyrocketing. There's a lot of bad information about therapeutics out there. Debunk some of the myths for us, hydroxychloroquine being one of them? It's an age of science, but sometimes it doesn't feel that way. Just the idea is about testing and hydroxychloroquine. The numbers are quite clear.
Starting point is 02:44:04 It got confused because the trials were done so poorly, oxychloroquine, you know, the numbers are quite clear. It got confused because the trials were done so poorly, but there's lots of good things coming in the therapeutic area that are really proven to work without the severe side effects. So, you know, a little bit slow, but a lot of good news to come in that domain. And if we don't solve the climate problem, do you believe there will be more pandemics,
Starting point is 02:44:30 worse pandemics in the future? Well, that's not the only thing. You'll have incredible instability because your ability to grow food in large parts of the world will be so diminished that you'll literally have hundreds of millions of migrants and you won't have a thriving global economy because you will have degraded the ecosystems. And there is no quick fix to that thing, unlike the magic vaccine that's a, year to two years at most to come up with. To all the people of Wuhan, you know, you made a great sacrifice to be in this very strict quarantine. And, you know, I'm very glad that it succeeded, but I'm sure that the difficulties were very great. And so we're thankful that you made these sacrifices.
Starting point is 02:45:32 Being at ground zero of an infectious disease is an incredible challenge. You made changes, work was stopped, your living was very different. And now the goal that all of that had, which is getting the cases down to very small numbers and still being super open about, okay, where are those cases? That critical thing is something that people should feel good about and I hope that we can get things even more back to normal in the months ahead. We use testing data to see where do we still need to restrict things and where can we go partially back to normal. So thank you for your sacrifices.
Starting point is 02:46:19 Tonight, the urgent new warning ahead of the Labor Day weekend, the make or break holiday as we head into fall. Dr. Anthony Fauci pleading with people stay away from those big crowds that have led to COVID surges, packed pool parties, bars, beaches and super spreader events. The first death linked to that massive biker rally in South Dakota and the CDC's new timeline on a vaccine. What they're telling states on the attack, Joe Biden blaming President Trump for what he calls a national emergency. As schools struggle to reopen the president's pushback today and the new alert about Russia targeting Joe Biden's campaign. Did the Trump administration try to bury it? Nancy Pelosi firing back after video of her inside a salon shuttered by law because of COVID. The House speaker,
Starting point is 02:47:05 now calling it a setup. The new developments as a rival of Vladimir Putin fights for his life. What officials now say was used to poison him. The cyber attack on one of the country's largest school districts, remote learning down for a third day, whether your kids are at risk. And the chili challenge that swept the nation. How all that cold cash raised means a major step forward in the fight against ALS. This is NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt. I take responsibility for trusting the word of the neighborhood salon that I've been to over the years many times and that
Starting point is 02:47:45 when they said what we're able to accommodate people one person at a time and that we can set up that time I trusted that as it turns out it was a setup so I take responsibility for falling for a setup and that's all I'm going to say on that. We're being told this is the science. But it's not. It's an appeal to authority. It's science because Tony Fauci and Bill Gates tell us it's science. We want to see the studies. We want to see the studies on hydroxychloroquine. We want to see the studies on whether the lockdown is killing more people than the coronavirus.
Starting point is 02:48:31 We want to see real science and real risk assessments. And we are not going to take the word my father told me when I was a child. People in authority lie. And we all, if we are gonna continue to live in a democracy, we need to understand that people in authority lie, people in authority will abuse every power that we relinquish to them. And right now we are giving them the power
Starting point is 02:49:03 to micromanage every bit of our lives 24 hours a day. They're going to know where we are, they're going to know the money that we spend, they're going to have access to our children, they're going to have the right to compel unwanted medical interventions on us. The Nazis did that in the camps in World War II. They tested vaccines on gypsies and Jews. And the world was so horrified after the war
Starting point is 02:49:34 that we signed the Nuremberg Charter. And we all pledge when we do that, we would never again impose unwanted medical interventions on human beings without informed consent. Do we have enough infrastructure to contact trace the way that we need to? I think that's why the criteria that you can see the gates that are, that the federal government has recommended are...
Starting point is 02:50:01 Four weeks ago, Don Baker became the first person in the U S to get a shot as part of a phase three clinical trial for a coronavirus vaccine. And now she's back, not just for a visit. All right, take a nice deep breath. But for another shot, that's right. The coronavirus vaccine will likely be given in two shots a few weeks apart.
Starting point is 02:50:23 It's like the boxer going into the ring. You might hit the other guy with one punch and he might go down, but two punches is gonna be way more effective. And that's a problem for several reasons. Many Americans aren't very excited about the coronavirus vaccine. According to a recent CNN poll,
Starting point is 02:50:41 40% of Americans say they won't get it. Second, for those who do take it, it's a logistical challenge to have hundreds of millions of people come in not once but twice. There's no question that this is going to be the most complicated, largest mass vaccination program in human history. People will have to remember to come in the second time. They might have to take time off work twice and possibly experience unpleasant side effects like fever twice. Government health officials are aware that's a big ask. On the manufacturing end, it's just more complicated to make 660 million doses of a vaccine than 330 million. And it's not just double the vaccine, it's double all the components that go with the
Starting point is 02:51:25 vaccine. Two vials with two caps and two stoppers, two syringes with two needles for everybody. Doing it twice is going to be daunting. It is going to be absolutely daunting. For Don Baker, rolling up her sleeve a second time was about saving lives. You guys are doing this? Yeah, you can show me your search warrant before you go through my house. the second time was about saving lives. You got your phone going? Yeah I do, yeah. Right, now you're under arrest in relation to incitement. Incitement? Yep. Now you're not obliged to say or do anything, but anything you say or do may be given an evidence.
Starting point is 02:52:11 Excuse me, incitement for what? What the, what on earth? Excuse me, what on earth? Just put your phone down. Can you like report this? I'm in my pajamas. What's this? I have an ultrasound in an hour.
Starting point is 02:52:21 Yeah, she's pregnant so. I'll take it easy. What's this about? Do I have an ultrasound in an hour? I was pregnant. Yeah, she's pregnant so... I'll take it easy. What's this about? If I had an ultrasound in an hour... Let me finish and I'll explain. It's in relation to a Facebook post, in relation to a lockdown protest you put on for Saturday. Yeah and I wasn't breaking any laws by doing that. You are actually. You are breaking laws. That's why I'm arresting you.
Starting point is 02:52:41 In relation to... How can you arrest her? That's... In front of my two children. Can't you just say to her to take the post down? Like come on. I'm arresting you. In relation to this case. How can you arrest her? In front of my two children. Can't you just say to her to take the post down? Like come on. I'm happy to delete the post. Yeah, that's fine. But my two kids are here.
Starting point is 02:52:51 I have an ultrasound and an hour. Like I'm happy to delete the post. You also have the right to communicate with or to communicate with a legal practitioner. You understand those rights? Yeah, this is ridiculous. Yeah, this is a bit unfair. Come on, mate.
Starting point is 02:53:04 What about she just doesn't do the event? Like, it's not like she's done it. She made a post. So that's an offence. Now, the search warrant titles us and we're required to. So is there any computers? Any mobile devices you have? You're not taking my phone.
Starting point is 02:53:14 What have I taken any device for? That's my phone. It's nothing to do with her. COVID has taken this year just so you know. We've been in the hospital for a year. We've been in the hospital for a year. We've been in the hospital for a year. We've been in the hospital for a year.
Starting point is 02:53:22 We've been in the hospital for a year. We've been in the hospital for a year. We've been in the hospital for a year. We've been in the hospital for a year. We've been in the hospital for a year. We've been in the hospital for a year. We've been in the hospital for a year. You're not taking my phone. I'm not taking any device. That's my phone. It's nothing to do with her. COVID has taken this year, just since the outbreak, it's taken more than 100 years. Look, here's the lives. It's just, it's, I mean, think about it.
Starting point is 02:53:40 More lives this year than any other year for the past 100 years. Data points from a very recent study published by the Center for Disease Control in August, in mid-August, that surveyed thousands of Americans at the end of June and asked them a variety of questions designed to gauge trends and developments in physical and mental health. And probably the most striking of the statistics was the one that was produced by the following question, quote, have you seriously considered suicide in the past 30 days? A question that was asked among people around the United States from June 24th to June 30th of 2020 of people 18 to 24
Starting point is 02:54:29 people in the 18 to 24 age range 25.5% or essentially one out of every four Americans in that age group said that yes They have seriously considered not fleetingly or as a fantasy, but seriously considered suicide, not in the past year, but in the past 30 days. All right, we'll hear from Josephine in Livingston, New Jersey on our Biden line. Good morning.
Starting point is 02:54:55 Morning. It is very, very sad that this country's come to the point. It's you against me, just like the woman you heard from California. My God, do we really live in America? This idolatry to Lucifer. That's how I label Trump, I have to say it. This idolatry to Lucifer. And even the white evangelical church who proclaims themselves pro-life. They're not pro-life, They're pro-birth. Now they say, go die like the Dr. Atlas that Trump has just hired who believes in this idea of herd mentality. To get to that herd mentality, two
Starting point is 02:55:39 million people have to die. Tony's next on our Trump line from Joppa, Maryland. Go ahead. Coronavirus in Victoria. That is 63 new cases since my update yesterday. I'm sad to have to report that there have now been 666 Victorians who have lost their life because of this global pandemic. That's an increase of five since yesterday's update. Two of these deaths occurred prior to yesterday. These include one female in her 80s, three females
Starting point is 02:56:12 in their 90s, one female in her 100s, and we send our sincere sympathies and condolences to each of those five families. This will be a very difficult time for them. Yeah, Tom and Sally, a big concern. Good morning. The university plans to make sure every student that attends Saturday's game is free of COVID-19. They're doing this by making sure that those who are attending as part of the Big Ticket Student
Starting point is 02:56:38 Game Package take a COVID-19 test tomorrow. The test is free, but mandatory. Only students who show proof of their negative COVID-19 test tomorrow. The test is free but mandatory only students who show proof of their negative COVID-19 test results will be given a ticket for Saturday's game. But thousands of alumni will also be attending and interim Austin Health Authority Dr. Mark Escott worries as many as 50 people could catch the virus at Saturday's game. Our gathering limits 10 and having 25,000 people in one space is is a concern. So ultimately people have to make a decision whether or not they're going to
Starting point is 02:57:13 go to the game. I will be watching on my TV. Dr. Escott says he worries the most about the increased risk of transmission in lines for the bathroom and concession stands. Now keep in mind UT did eliminate tailgating for this season and they also plan to provide over 200 hand sanitizing kiosks as well as enforcing masks for everyone who attends the game. The same tragic story that happened in Wuhan six months ago is now occurring again in the Xinjiang region, as thousands of residents in high-rise buildings shouted and screamed into the night in despair. Xinjiang's capital, Erumqi, has been under strict lockdown for nearly 40 days after authorities
Starting point is 02:57:57 announced a resurgence of the CCP virus on July 16. An Erumqi resident recorded the heartbreaking scene of people living in surrounding buildings screaming together to vent their frustration. It is clearly audible that the videographer himself was sobbing when filming. An assistant commissioner has unleashed on anti-lockdown protesters. Luke Cornelius described his frustration at having to prepare the force to face another round of demonstrations this weekend. To be honest, I feel a bit like a dog returning to eat his own vomit. round of demonstrations this weekend. home even longer. Nexon proximity chip from the time they walk into the facility until they walk out again. They're also wearing them tonight They will in all games
Starting point is 02:59:27 So if someone does test positive the league will know who they were near at what distance and for how long so that is high-tech contact tracing now Michelle it's amazing what's been done because it was so daunting for some of the players and coaches Do you still trust the FDA? I think in the FDA, there's a lot of professionals. Historically, just like the CDC was viewed as the best in the world, the FDA had that same reputation as a top-notch regulator. But there's been some cracks with some of the things they've said at the commissioner level.
Starting point is 03:00:11 Hopefully, the staff isn't pulled in that direction. What about the CDC? You made reference to the reputational damage that's been done to the CDC. Can you take what the CDC says to the bank any longer? Well, the CDC is largely being written out of the picture because you have people at the White House who aren't epidemiologists saying what a great job they've done. So, it's no longer a set of experts. The CDC actually did make some mistakes, the way they thought about testing, the way they hadn't figured out to bring the commercial providers in. Now hundreds have gathered here in front of the Washington County Administration building
Starting point is 03:00:56 calling for the end of a mass mandate saying they are tired of not living their normal lives. No more mass, no more mass. Not on the backs of my kids, or you're gonna get more federal funds. That's how I feel about that. living their normal lives. A passionate call for action Friday morning in St. George, several police officers on standby as many locals called concerns about coronavirus spikes overblown. The flu kills more than coronavirus. Others calling the virus a hoax or stating that asymptomatic carriers simply do not exist
Starting point is 03:01:28 and they cannot be forced to wear masks anywhere as citizens of the United States. If we want to wear a mask, that's fine. We can take care of ourselves. Some rally attendees say they shouldn't ever wear masks if they have any medical issues or mental health concerns or if they feel they simply can't breathe. When George Floyd was saying, I can't breathe and then he died. And now we're wearing a mask and we say, I can't breathe, but we're being forced to wear it anyway.
Starting point is 03:01:51 But many say that they believe in all cases, masks jeopardize kids' health. Parents are demanding they have the right to decide what to do with their children. I'll tell you another reason I hate masks. Most child molesters love them. School administrators responding that they don't understand why crowds are protesting them based on a mandate given by the governor. They blocked off the front entrance to the school building and we went out to ask them to move and they attempted to storm the school building. The school board is implementing the governor's recent order
Starting point is 03:02:18 that face shields alone are not enough and if a parent is adamant that their child cannot wear a mask or a shield they must fill out a form, including a doctor's note, so the district can review it. And St. George, Katie Kraulis, ABC 4 News. And the tragedy is that this pandemic has been predicted. And to some extent, it's been caused by us because we've disrespected the natural world, we've disrespected animals, we've created environments which make it much easier for a pathogen to jump from an animal to a human where it may cause a new disease, a zoonotic disease as it's called, such as COVID-19. Unfortunately COVID-19 was incredibly contagious and has raced around the world causing so much havoc, so much suffering,
Starting point is 03:03:05 so much economic chaos. At the same time, all the time, we have been threatened by a much greater challenge, and that is climate change. And to a great extent, it's the same disrespect of the natural world that has led to this climate crisis. Because this planet has finite natural resources and we've been plundering them in many places faster than Mother Nature can restore them. We're in the midst of the sixth great extinction. We depend on healthy ecosystems and the healthy ecosystem depends on the biodiversity. We need to move into some of these innovations of science like solar, wind and tide energy. Otherwise, for my grandchildren and theirs, the future is more than grim. It's very dark.
Starting point is 03:04:02 We mustn't let that happen. We have a window of time which is closing and we need everybody who cares to get together and find solutions now. Thirty-seven thousand more people will be alive today and we're going to have another influx of cases just between now and January. It's expected that we're going to have somewhere between, depending on what estimate you take, between 138 and 178,000 more deaths. And if people just do what we're doing here, and when you're at a social distance, as I am, you can take a mask off, but wear a mask. They estimate that would save about close to 89,000, 90,000 people. This newly amended order replaces the city's previous provision that allowed people to
Starting point is 03:04:48 take off their masks while outside during the summer months. Masks are part of the daily routine in Cambridge. 99% of people around here wear them. Wherever you look, it seems everyone is following the rules. It's rare you see someone who's not wearing it. Over the summer, the city allowed people to remove face coverings if they could maintain six feet of distance from others. But that will change on October 2nd. Masks will now be mandatory just about everywhere, except your own home. So starting next week when you're crossing a bridge from Boston
Starting point is 03:05:18 into Cambridge, you're going to need a mask up. Whether you're riding a bike, on a basketball court, or simply dancing on the sidewalk. Even if you're in a wide open field all by yourself. The city says it's because of a slight uptick in cases as students return to college. The latest order will also require office workers to wear masks at all times unless they are alone. I think to have to wear a mask 24 seven outside is over the top. Those who don't want to play by the rules the city's safety measures. I think to have to wear a mask 24 7 outside is over the top. Those who don't want to play by the rules could face a $300 fine,
Starting point is 03:05:53 but the majority of people we spoke with have no problem playing it safe. I'm pretty much used to it at this point. I've been doing that all summer. So no different from me. I think it's a really easy measure we could take to protect the public. I mean, Like it's such a simple thing. The easiest thing we can do to protect each other. As far as enforcement goes, the city says this is going to be more about education and less about punishment.
Starting point is 03:06:12 The official United States death toll from COVID-19 has passed 200,000, by far the highest in the world. As University of Washington researchers warn, the U.S. is on track to double that death toll by year's end. In the past 24 hours alone, the U.S. reported nearly a thousand new deaths and over 37,000 new cases, with Minnesota, Montana, Utah, Wisconsin and Wyoming reporting record levels of infections over the past week. On Tuesday, the COVID-19 memorial project placed 20,000 flags across the National Mall, each one symbolizing 10 U.S. residents who've died of the disease since the first recorded
Starting point is 03:06:56 U.S. death in February. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi spoke at a memorial for the dead. — This was preventable. Not all of it, but much of it. Mr Ford says that we know that the second wave is going to be worse than the first wave. Could you tell me in what way it will be worse? So I think the potential is that it can be worse. Right now we're on the upward slope of the second wave.
Starting point is 03:07:23 I think the Premier, what he's alluding to isuding to the fact that we know it is the so-called undulating waves that we have seen in some of the modules. How big those are we have to see. We always see it better after we have some time to look at the test results. If it is that more tsunami type wave, it will be far worse than the first wave as we
Starting point is 03:07:42 have seen in other countries. How big this wave is going to be, because already we've seen some test results that are equivalent to what our maximum daily amounts were in the first wave. But as I said before, in that time, the maximum test we're doing today around that highest peak was around about 10,000 tests.
Starting point is 03:07:59 We're doing 41,000 to 43,000 at the moment. So it's a different curve, different epidemic. So right now we're anticipating if it keeps going we have to assume it could be a lot worse than the first wave especially if it's the second scenario that's more of the tsunami one but so far
Starting point is 03:08:12 it doesn't seem to be going that way. We like to hope we can keep on top of this and hear recommendations from myself and others and medical officers around the province to ask the public to really focus down now.
Starting point is 03:08:23 We really have to hunker down and stay at the task to see if we can flatten this curve like we did the first time. People have gotten very casual, I think, at the end of summer, early fall, and we have seen that effect. But I think by everybody refocusing, we have some ideas and suggestions of that, we
Starting point is 03:08:42 can turn this one around. So hopefully, not the premier's fears, we might be able to flatten it down and it may not be worse, but we cannot be presumptive on that basis. BLM baby, remember that? All of a sudden it was okay to go out. Go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, if you were protesting and burning the place down, yeah, that was okay.
Starting point is 03:09:00 Everything else, no, you had to social distance. What a crazy time, what a crazy time. That was a crock of crap if ever there was. Isn't it amazing how you kind of just forget that stuff and it's like a vague memory and we just moved on with life and here we are, Trump is president again. Or it will be president. Let's just hope that all goes well. Yeah, unless the aliens show up and block him.
Starting point is 03:09:27 Yeah, or Jamie Raskin, whichever is scarier. Same thing. All right everybody. You ever look at that guy? He looks like an alien. Thank you very much to Strokey Bill Walsh for producing the best of COVID. We appreciate you very much, brother. And we look forward to returning on the next episode, which will be 1723 just that just before just before we get to Christmas. So please remember us in the meantime at no agenda donations.com. Currently, I am probably my sister might have thrown black
Starting point is 03:10:03 bags over everybody's head for some surprise birthday party for my brother-in-law in Italy So I hope I return I have no idea where I'm at this moment, but I will soon be coming to you from Amsterdam the Netherlands on our way back from Italy until then in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'll be shopping at Macy's, I'm John C. Devorak. We'll be back on the next episode. Please remember us, really, for Christmas. Noaginthedonations.com. Until then, adios mofos, a hooey hooey, and such.

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