No Agenda - 1725 - "Artificial Indian"

Episode Date: December 29, 2024

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ROUND TEN! Adam Curry, John C. DeVora And Sunday, December 29th, 2024 This is your award winning Kibble Nation Media Assassination Episode 1725 This is No Agenda Rejecting the jet lag and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country Here in FEMA Region Number 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry.

Man for Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all asking the same question, who the hell buys food from Home Shopping Network? I'm John C. DeBora. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. The bigger question is, why were you watching the Home Shopping Network? Oh, I watch it all the time. I love the home shopping network. QVC and the other one, the big one, was just the Jewelry TV, JTV.

Well, isn't Instagram and TikTok, they're basically the new home shopping networks now? I don't know. I never bought anything from them. Oh, oh, the ladies, they buy everything off of Instagram. I've never, no. No, well, you're not a lady. I'm never, no. No, well you're not the ladies. I'm not the ladies for one thing. You're not the ladies, no.

Maybe I'll catch up. You're not the ladies. But they're selling breaded chicken cutlets this morning on a home shopping list to sell all kinds of food. Nasty. It's prepared, it's like, why, who's gonna buy, oh, all you have to do is heat it up, you know, and it's not cheap. No, but this is what, this is what has become of our intake here. It's pathetic

to be honest about it. Who's going to buy breaded chicken cutlets from home shopping network and then reheat it? Well, they're setting you up for their next product. This next item we have is a special discount on Ozempic. Yeah, well they haven't done that yet. It's coming. It's coming. So, the end is near. The Skynet is closing in on us. Let me tell you about our return from Europe.

Oh yes, now. Okay, well you have to, brief everyone, if you haven't listened to the show for a while, Adam has been in Europe now. He came back during a horrendous moment in flight history, because all the airports were closed. There was delays everywhere. I was watching the news saying,

gee I hope Adam gets back in time for the show. Yeah, there was no problem whatsoever. Well, good. Again, they psyched me out. But I will say this about that. Facial recognition is here. Leaving Schiphol Airport, facial recognition to exit customs. That's the EU, most countries except for the United States of course.

You have to go through customs when you leave so they know you left. I've never understood why we don't have that. But you walk through a little gate. Good to go. Gate opens. Walk through. Board onto Delta. Do you need your boarding pass?

Your passport? No. Facial recognition. Good onto Delta. Do you need your boarding pass? Your passport? No. Facial recognition? Good to go. Come into the United States? We came to Atlanta. Now I will say we got global entry because the last time we came in we came back from Mexico. We stood in line for two hours. I'm like, okay, I'm giving up my biometric data for this. This is crazy. I haven't had global entry in at least maybe, maybe about 10 years. And you walk up to the kiosk, I have my global entry card, I've got my passport.

No, no, no, go. And then you walk up to the customs agent. He's just waving you on through it's facial recognition all the way through, which of course means now they, with the flip of the switch, they can block me, stop me from going anywhere. It was a flip of the switch. Yeah. It was great on one hand. On the other hand, just frightening. I had, this was, I told this story on the show before, but about looking back on it, maybe almost 15

years ago, maybe 20, I was in Portugal and I was at some event and next door to the event I was at, there was a tech event of sorts for police departments and security experts. And they had a facial recognition system there that you could play with. And this was like 10, 15 years ago. And it was designed for airports. And so they, you can go through it as many times as you want to do and anything you wanted to do. I was going through with my cheeks puffed out,

my hand in front of my face. I went through it about 10 times. It never missed. Once it got your original face, it just, you couldn't fool it. And that was the thing that bothered me. And to this day, I remember that, I, there's nothing you could do to fool it. You can close your eyes. You could squint, you could lift one eyebrow. You could do all kinds of things and it was not being fooled by any of it. I know. I know it's, it's, it's a good technology. It's quite, it's quite technology. It's quite remarkable. It's quite good.

It's quite remarkable. They say now, I mean, that since then they can determine that even if you wear a mask. Oh, well, even the iPhone unlocks with your mask on these days. Oh yeah, no, this stuff is good. And you know, your iPhone of course is taking a snapshot every, what, five seconds. It's looking to see if you got your face in front of it so just take it's just the whole thing it's great but it's really not great it's not great at all no it's great because it's onerous is the word you're like today's word yeah it's onerous we don't need this aggravation no not really happy with it well let's stick with aviation then since you brought it up by the way since we have this so much of this facial recognition, how come they can't stop all

crime? Well, now you've stumped me. I don't know if they can stop all crime, but they, you know what? They should be able to catch you. They should be able to at least identify all criminals. It's coming. I don't understand. Many of them are recidivists that came out of jail of prisons. They obviously took pictures of their faces in prison. Yeah So well, they can't seem to do it at the border It works great for for people just yeah for me works great for me Yeah all right, the news I let me just

Yeah. All right. The news came. Let me just... I'm just going to say I do have a background clip on the Azerbaijan thing if you want to play that. Well, I'll give you the latest news that came in overnight and then see if we play the backgrounder. Since the crash of Azerbaijan Airlines flight 243, suspicions have been growing over Russia's involvement.

On Saturday, the Kremlin said President Vladimir Putin had apologized to his Azerbaijani counterpart over the phone. He admitted that Russian air defense was active at the time but stopped short of taking responsibility. In the conversation it was noted that the Azerbaijani passenger aircraft, which was following the schedule, repeatedly tried to land at the airport of Grozny. At the same time, Grozny, Mozdok and Vladikavkaz were attacked by Ukrainian combat drones and Russian air defence systems repelled these attacks. The Russian president did not confirm that the plane had been hit by a Russian air defence missile. For experts, however, there is no doubt. They say these holes in the plane's

fuselage are proof of shrapnel from an anti-aircraft missile. Meanwhile, the president of Azerbaijan, Ilham Aliyev, said that the plane was hit in Russian airspace by external physical interference, as suggested by survivors' accounts. Since the crash, which killed 38 people, Azerbaijan Airlines has announced that it would be suspending flights to eight other Russian cities. Other airlines from Kazakhstan, Israel and Dubai have followed suit and cancelled flights to Russia. So it seems pretty clear.

They're going to blame it on Ukraine. Because Ukraine was shooting drones into Russian airspace and it's their fault. They just haven't quite admitted it yet. Do we need your background on this? I think the background would be good because there's some new material that came out just before the show from our buddy Doug. Doug? Oh, Doug the Douchebag? Doug the Douchebag from Friends 24. Where has he been? I've been missing him in my life. He's around. He's back.

All right. I don't remember him being called Doug the douche bag. Yeah, Doug the douche bag. The bald douche, yeah. Is this the Kazakh air crash? The bald douche. Russian President Vladimir Putin apologized to the leader of Azerbaijan today after the deadly Azerbaijani airline crash in Kazakhstan, but he didn't take responsibility for the

crash. In a statement, the Kremlin says it was responding to a Ukrainian drone strike in Chechnya. And here's Elena Moore reports. In a Kremlin readout of the call, Putin characterized the crash, which killed 38 people, as a tragic incident, apologizing that it happened in Russian airspace. It comes a day after White House national security spokesman John Kirby addressed Russia's potential involvement. We do have, have seen some early indications that would certainly point to the possibility that this jet was brought down by Russian air defense systems. Kirby added that an investigation conducted by Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan is

ongoing and the U S has offered its assistance. Where's douchebag Doug? No, I don't have the clip. I said that was this morning. That's the background. If it was the one that you're mixing me up. Yeah. Yeah. What did douchebag Doug say? Douchebag Doug came on in France 24. First of all, they brought the president of Azerbaijan this morning,

came out and said, Putin's responsible. What we wanted was an apology. He didn't give an apology. Now what we want is a compensation for the lost jet and compensation for all the dead people. And so he made a demand on Putin, which is one dictator to another. And this was quite interesting. Douchebag Doug comes on and says, well, the problem that Putin actually has here is that Azerbaijan is the route that the Russians have been using.

You have to go through Azerbaijan because of all the sanctions against Russia. They can't do this, they can't do that. They can't fly here, they can't fly there. Azerbaijan is like the route that Russia has to use. And so he's got leverage on Putin, and Putin's gonna have to do something about it. Well, Putin should say, talk to the Europeans, they got 300 billion of our money.

They'll give it to you. That would actually be quite funny if he could do that. Yeah, get it from those guys. So that's the situation now is that, yes, it's Putin's fault. He only the guy says he was very, you know, he's very sincere about it. He says, why what? Yeah, you can acknowledge this and that, but where's the apology?

He just wants an apology for shooting down this plane. Well, because he Putin needs to figure out how to blame it on on Ukraine. I think that ship sailed. I have a couple of clips. I'll only play one here. This is the Russian aviation chief who went into a little more detail. Now to Kazakhstan and investigations continue into what caused the crash of an Azerbaijani passenger plane.

How old fashioned is this this style by the way? No to Azerbaijan! That's like the old thing. I'm always reminded of these old boxing clips of the fights in the 30s and 40s and you hear a guy going, round ten! This is cornball announcing style that died 20, 30 years ago. Yeah, except at the BBC. Now to Kazakhstan and investigations continue into what caused the crash of an Azerbaijani

passenger plane in the country on Christmas Day. Representatives of Azerbaijan Airlines speak of external physical and technical interference, but they don't say what that could have been. 38 people died in that crash, but there were some survivors. The plane had originally tried to land at Grozny airport in southern Russia, but was denied permission and diverted to Kazakhstan, where it crashed near the airport at Aktau. Well, the head of Russia's aviation watchdog, Dmitry Yadvrov, said the diversion was necessary because of a difficult situation around Grozny airport.

I should note that the situation in the area of Grozny airport that day during those hours was quite difficult. Ukrainian combat drones were mounting terrorist attacks on civilian infrastructure in the cities of Grozny and Vladikavkaz. Because of this, all aircraft had to leave the indicated airspace immediately. I like the term Ukrainian combat drones. I haven't really heard it described that way UCDs Ukrainian like it. I like the combat drone. Yeah terrorist attacks Okay, I like that So this seems pretty obvious and I like that we got the douchebag dug info there were however two more crashes That I think are a little more can yes. Yes. Well, yeah, the one in Korea is a nasty one.

But then of course, I think one thing that we should mention that we had noticed, but we're not going to talk much about is the Navy's shooting down of its own F-18. Well, that would be three crashes. I'll skip the Navy's F-18 to 66, how much was it, 66 million? $66 million down the drain of taxpayer money. Now we complain about taxpayer money. We always complain about taxpayer money. There were two other crashes of note.

And yes indeed, the first is the South Korean airliner. This was a dramatic moment. The JG plane carrying 181 people crash landed and burst into a ball of flames. So far two people have been pulled out alive but over 100 have been killed. Officials said the landing gear of the Boeing 737 arriving from Bangkok appeared to have malfunctioned. Local media reported it may have been caused by birds getting into the plane system combined with adverse weather conditions.

They have promised a thorough investigation and rescue operation. The airline's CEO has paid tribute to those who lost their lives. Above all, I would like to express my deepest condolences and apologies to the passengers and their families whose relatives lost lives in this accident. Regardless of the cause of the accident, I feel responsible as the CEO. We at Jeju Air will do our best to quickly resolve the accident and support the families of the passengers.

The crash is one of the deadliest seen in South Korea. It is the first big test for acting president Choi Sung-mook, who was named interim leader of the country on Friday. So just looking at this video right away, I'm like, no, no, no, no, this is this is not a bird strike. You know, there's some video of a puff coming out of the engine. The likelihood of a bird strike causing the landing gear to not deploy is unlikely.

Also looking at that landing, if you want to call it a landing, no, that plane was going very fast, had no trim, no air speed brakes, nothing was deployed. So it looked much more like a complete hydraulic failure. And because you can actually lower the gear on the 737. You can pull a lever and the gear will drop just from centrifugal force, from gravity. It'll just drop down. I don't know if it locks in place. It's not a great way to do it, but that was not happening.

If anything, it looked like they were trying to do a touch and go and do a go around. And then of course, South Korea decided to put a very big barrier at the end of the runway. It's unfortunate. It's a day wrecker. But the same day, a KLM 737-800, same aircraft, flight KL 1204, which you did not hear about, overran the runway after a diversion to Oslo, and they said that they had a hydraulic failure. Smoke came from the left engine and now they landed okay, but they had no control of flaps or landing gear.

So seeing that this happens on the same day, two exact same type aircraft, I'm going to say it would be worthwhile to look into the latest batch of Boeing aircraft. Well, if they're from the same batch, which is a possibility, this is an old quality control thing. You find if, you know, one go- this is the reason that by the way, just to change, I say targets of the topic. That's why you don't buy, when you load up with a raid for your hard disk, a bunch of- you buy six hard disks, you don't buy six hard disks from the same. No, not to the same vendor, no, not the same batch, no.

No, you can get the same vendor, but not the same batch. Because if one fails, they all fail. This is a very common phenomenon in high tech. And airplanes would be no different, or even cars. When one fails from that batch, the ones that came out that week or even cars. They, you know, when one fails from that batch, the ones that came out that week or that month or whatever, that weren't, you know, before the inspectors came around and did their job, you're gonna end up with a bunch

of them failing. Yeah, I agree. I think you're right. And yeah, you know, it's a good time to blame everything on birds, you know. Ah, it was a bird strike. Yeah. No, bird flu. You know, it was a bird strike. Yeah. Bird flu.

Bird flu. Yes. And on that note, we do need to go through a couple of things because some important people have arrived back on the scene. We start with the important introduction. And we begin with a concerning new CDC report on the first severe human case of bird flu in the U.S. Samples taken from a patient in Louisiana show mutations that could make it easier for

this virus to spread from person to person. Now, right now, there's no evidence it has passed. No evidence. No evidence. It's been passed along to anyone else. And the CDC says risk to the public remains low. But experts warn a single mutation like this could potentially lead to another pandemic.

Yes, and with that, ladies and gentlemen, the no agendination, the pandemic propaganda princess is back. Scarf and all. Joining us now is Dr. Deborah Birx. You may remember her as the response coordinator for the How does this woman even get on any air whatsoever when she already admitted that she's a liar? I think there's very good reasons for this and as we go through a couple of these clips I shall explain why I believe it. She, by the way, Commodore Deborah Birx, former military, although it's not in her resume,

she might have specialized in psychological operations. She has joined a lot of different outfits. She joined that indoor air filter company as a chief scientist or some nonsense like that, but she's also now just recently joined Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center. She's on all kinds of boards. She's picking up money left and right. Just pick some money up here, pick some money up there. And I'm sure she's on the CNN payroll as an expert to come in and talk. Rha Burks, you may remember her as the response coordinator

for the White House Coronavirus Task Force and the first Trump administration. We are very fortunate to have your expertise as we try to figure out what's going on with the bird flu and what it could mean. So, so far, 65 human cases of bird flu have been reported in the US this year, all contracted by animals.

But now we have this new mutation in Louisiana. Wait, wait, wait. All contracted by animals. She means from animals, doesn't she? There's going to be a lot of confusion about that. About, and now is it zoonotic or zoo-nautic? It's zoo-nautic. Zoo-nautic. When is it zoo-nautic? It's zoonotic. Zoonotic. When is it zoonotic? It's only zoology. Zoology and zoonotic. Okay. All right, but there's going to be a lot of confusion. By the way, I did a deep dive on that

just to get that right. I'm glad I'm glad you did. That's why there's two of us. How worried should we be? How worried should we be? It used to be concerned. Now, now it's worried. How worried should we be? It used to be concerned, now it's worried. How worried should we be? Deanna, how worried should we be about bird flu potentially becoming another pandemic? By the way, they've got a great new picture of the bird flu. Just like we had coronavirus, we had that spiky ball thing. Spiky looking thing. Spiky ball thing.

So this is, it looks like five, so they've got four cells, like circular cells all stuck together with a fifth one off to the side, just close enough, not quite there. Oh, the one that is going to be the one mutation away. Yes. Indicating that that's the one. Yes, that's the one. Well, I love the way you said 63 cases because I have no idea how many cases there were. And now, this is good.

What? She's the expert. No, no, no. This is a setup, because this is the same script. This is the script that's rolling out. Why don't we know? What do we need? What do we need? We need to, we need to. Well, I love the way you said 63 cases, because I have no idea how many cases there were. We need to do testing. Because our number one principle in preventing pandemics is detect. And if you go to the CDC website, you can see that they're monitoring more than 10,000 exposures,

but they've only tested 530. Oh, we need to test. What does that mean? That means we're not testing enough and we know from other viruses that a lot of the spread can be asymptomatic. So we're kind of having our head in the sand about how like... Typhoid Mary. It's the same script. Spread this is from the zoonotic standpoint, from the animal to human standpoint.

Now also remember most of those cases described to date happened in the spring and the summer, not when we had H1N1 circulating right now when we're running the flu pandemic throughout the United States. Did you know we have a flu pandemic? She just said that. She just said we're running. She said we're running the flu. What is this?

Running it up. What are you running? Now she says we're running the flu pandemic. That's what she said. I don't like the sound of that. Not when we had H1N1 circulating. Right now when we're running the flu pandemic with... She even pauses like, what did I just say? I shouldn't be saying that. I just gave it away. We're running the flu pandemic with. She even pauses like what did I just say?

I shouldn't be saying that I just gave it away. We're running the flu pandemic right now when we're running the flu pandemic with throughout the throughout the United States. So we have rising flu cases and now we have still suenotic events coming. So now you've set up for potentially a farm worker getting H5N1, also getting the current flu strain and re-assorting in that individual. Re-assorting. It's re-assorting inside of me.

To me, that's almost a bigger threat to these mutations happening in individuals over time. By the way, I'd like to give a little tip for our producers out there who are looking for some quick money. Now is the exact moment, you may even be a little bit on the late side, get certified. There's a whole portal, I think CDC has a whole portal. You as a commercial entity can get cert,

my friends did this during COVID. Yeah, this is the same script, you're doing the other side of the script. Yes. Yes. Which is the money-making side. The money-making side. The money-making side.

Yeah. Get certified as a testing entity, and then you just buy up these tests really cheap and get them from Abbott because, of course, they already exist. Buy them up really cheap, and then you can be on the list and you can market to all these companies, You can be on the list and you can market to all these companies, companies who have conferences, I mean, conferences in general, annual shareholder meetings, and it is a bonanza. Remember you're no agenda show. When you say reassorting in that person, what does that mean? Okay, so the H5 virus, which doesn't adapt too well to our upper respiratory track and is preventing us from getting infected, but inspecting cows and pigs and cats and dogs.

What? So our flu, which has the binding sites for us, for our nasal passages, viruses are very specific and so they're very animal or human specific. And so there's very animal or human specific. Now we have human flu circulating. At the same time, we have the zoonotic flu circulating. And the zoonotic is for our viewers. The H and the animal flu. Yes. Okay. So we have the animal flu. Let's call it the animal flu. And then we have human flu.

Animal flu. Co-circulating. And at any time, someone could get both. Wuggy flu. But I don't know what she's saying here over and over again is if so in a human being you could have the regular flu and then the animal flu would combine together and you breathe that out and you breathe it to someone else and then they get. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Keep going. Well then they would get the flu, then we'd have a mutation and then we're all gonna die. Yeah, exactly. We're all gonna die. Co-circulating. And at any time,

someone could get both of those unknowingly. And particularly in California where all the dairy workers are getting exposed, flu is rising in the South and into California. So we should be monitoring carefully that dual exposure because if you get both of the flus at the same time, the H5 flu, the bird flu, could get the genes from the human flu and make it infectious to humans in the same way that our current flu is.

Dr. Justin Marchegiani Okay. Dr. Michael B. Daly Well, that makes sense. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Well, no. Dr. Michael B. Daly But she never says anything about raw milk. Come on. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Oh, don't. Patience. Patience.

Now, good news for you. Your favorite free item from the government should be coming. It could become infectious to humans even after, even if it's not coexisting with the human flu, right? Well, if it mutates like it did in this individual or in the case in Canada. But that sometimes is a random slower process. But if you have that co-infect infection, then you can share genes. Okay. And that's a really to me, the spring of the summer where we had all of the dairy cattle to farm worker

exposure, we didn't have human flu circulating. So now we're entering a much more dangerous period. Yet we're still not testing and we should be providing tests free of charge to dairy farm workers so they can test anonymously weekly because they'll want to know if they have both cases of potential flus co-circulating in their own body to protect their families. People are very smart. I find the American public to be incredibly smart. If you tell them the risks and you give them the tools, they will utilize them to protect themselves and their family.

This, by the way, was like 20 minutes she was on. They're not horsing around. Look, you have bird flu. Now, let's bring in some more scientific terms. You don't think this country has learned from the COVID pandemic? And there's not a sense of urgency right now that should not stop. Our agencies are making the same mistakes they made with COVID. The principle number two principle of pandemic is detect. And the only way to detect for viruses is to test. You cannot see a virus through symptoms.

You miss so many cases. She said that, what she said, the number two. Yeah. And then she goes she said the number two. Yeah. And then she goes at what was number one. Detect. Did she ever say? Yeah, detect. Detect was number one.

She said in the first clip. She said detect was number one. Yes. What's number two? What did she just say number two was? Detect. Well, she's lying. Or what did she say number two was?

I'm sorry, back it up. Okay, hold on a second. The principle, number two principle of pandemic is detect. Yeah, that's interesting because she said earlier, she said the number one is detect. Well, number one is detect, number two is like marketing, marketing, marketing. The three best things, the top three things in sales is location, location, location. And the only way to detect for viruses is to test. You cannot see a virus through symptoms. You miss so many cases. Yet we're still talking about flu-like illness. Well, there is no flu-like illness. There's RSV, respiratory syncytial virus it causes croup. Parents know what that is.

There's mycoplasm pneumonia circulating right now. There's flu circulating right now, and soon there'll be COVID circulating. Those are all coffee respiratory illnesses that look the same. Wait, wait, wait, stop. My understanding is, based on the same bullcrap that this woman's pushed out before. Yes.

Is that COVID's a year round thing. It was big in the summer, winter, fall, doesn't matter. So why is all of a sudden COVID becoming seasonal? When did that happen? I'm asking you. You know, I know we both know we follow this right from the beginning. COVID was non-seasonal. They made a big fuss about it being non-seasonal.

Yes. It's like, so how's it, when did it become seasonal? Like she just said. Well, I'm going to move us along here just a little bit so I can get to the reason behind all of this. Well, I'm sorry, but I'm interrupting on these things, but she's full of crap. Yes. And we have to like stop it when it, because we can't let this go into the public domain as if it's changed magically to a seasonal problem. Well, this next clip will give us a little bit of a clue as to why she is doing this

and why there are others out there doing this. And here it comes. and why there are others out there doing this. And here it comes. I want to turn to kind of looking ahead to Trump's picks to lead the nation's health agencies. As you know, some of them are controversial. At HHS, you have vaccine skeptic, R.F.K. Jr., also a big advocate for raw milk. At NIH, by the way, the raw milk is relevant to the Berkeley discussions.

That's why I brought that up. Wait, stop. I'm sorry. I think RFK Jr. When did Kennedy ever even mention raw milk in any of his discussions? Have you noticed this? I have never heard. I've listened to as much crap as you have, or at least as much. As much, yes, as much. And I have listened to as much crap as you have, or at least as much. As much, yes, as much. And I have listened to Kennedy, and we both have actually, Kennedy from day one, years and years ago. We've always been admired, even though you can barely hear him. I don't remember him mentioning raw milk once in his entire spiel.

So how is he now suddenly an advocate? Let me just do a quick thing. Let me see. If we don't have any clips, then it didn't happen. Milk. Nope. We have nothing on RFK Jr. and raw milk because it's not about bird flu. It's already clear what this is about.

At NIH, by the way, the raw milk is relevant to the bird flu discussion. That's why I brought that up. At NIH, a doctor who criticized COVID lockdowns. At FDA, a doctor who said the government was the, quote, greatest perpetrator of misinformation during COVID. Do people like this concern you about our preparedness for another pandemic? What's your take? Are you starting to hear what this is about?

Are you starting to understand what this is really about? This is not about bird flu. This is about RFK Jr. This is a hit job. And who shows up on CBS Face the Nation? Our other prop pandemic propaganda princess, Lena Nguyen. Something called reassortment. Oh, that's right.

Where things change because of one illness becoming another illness through reassortment of a mutated. Same script, reassortment. I've never heard of reassortment. This is new. I've never heard of this in my life. Brand new. Brand new.

We're at the combined age of way over 100. And it's like we do not have these things in the background. Way over 100. Way over 100. Way overV. Way over 100. Stand by. Way over 100. Stand by. Lena Nguyen will unpack.

Virus. That's right. And so the viruses could exchange genes. You could develop a new hybrid virus. Hybrid virus? And if you're not on the virus, that's more contagious and causes more severe disease. That's when it becomes a major threat to humankind. What should be happening in the Biden administration right now that isn't going on?

Yeah, there are two main things that they should be doing in the days that they have left. The first is to get testing out there. Testing. I feel like we should have learned our lesson from COVID that just because we aren't testing, it doesn't mean that the virus isn't there. It just means that we aren't looking for it. We should be having rapid tests,

home tests available to all farm workers. Same script. To their families, home tests available to all farm workers. Same script. To their families, for the clinicians taking care of them. By the way, Lena Nguyen also no longer in government service. These people don't work for the government anymore. She is now, in fact, a contributor to CNN and in this case, CBS Face the Nation. So that we aren't waiting for public labs and CDC labs to tell us what's bird flu or not.

And the second very important thing is this is not like the beginning of COVID where we were dealing with a new virus. We didn't have a vaccine. There actually is a vaccine developed already against H5N1. The Biden administration has contracted with manufacturers to make almost 5 million doses of the vaccine. However, they have not asked the FDA to authorize the vaccine. There's research done on it.

They could get this authorized now and also get the vaccine out and to farm workers and to vulnerable people. I think that's the right approach because we don't know what the Trump administration is going to be doing around bird flu. If they have people come in with anti-vaccine stances, could they hold up vaccine authorization? If they don't want to know how much bird flu is out there, could they withhold testing? I mean, that's a possibility.

And I think the Biden administration in the remaining days should get testing and vaccines widely available so that at least it empowers state and local health officials and clinicians to do the right thing for their patients. This has been the whole thing. All along. This is it. It's about RFK Jr. mainly, but there are others.

Here's MSNBC. We don't have enough to worry about during this cold flu COVID season. Cold flu COVID. Is worrying news about bird flu. Bird flu. CDC says the virus now shows new mutations that may make it easier for the infection to be spread from person to person. And that increases the risk of a wider outbreak of bird flu or even potentially a pandemic.

The concerns over bird flu are rising just as we are on the verge of Senate confirmation hearings for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as Secretary of Health and Human Services, which could begin in the first or second week of January. It's coming up. Kennedy's anti-vaccine stances are well known and deeply troubling for someone who would run the federal agency responsible for protecting the health and well-being of all people living in the United States. But it's not just Kennedy who is a concern.

It's the people he would bring on board with him, like a raw milk producer in California whose products have been recalled due to bird flu contamination. This guy says Kennedy's team has asked him to lead the nation's policy on raw milk. This is a bogus, bogative, complete bull crap setup for the confirmation hearing, which will be filled with bird flu nonsense. Are you an anti-vaxxer? If we have vaccines ready to go, we need, are you gonna stop the vaccine?

Are you gonna stop testing? Are you going to kill Americans? It's a 50% death rate. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's what this is about. And I take us back to one of your clips from episode 1725. McCullough talking about the vaccines that are good to go. You know what they were doing, Dave? They were doing experiments in Malar Ducks migratory

waterfall. What a mistake. One of those guys gets out, they fly everywhere. You know, the media has not been asking the question, why did it spread from Texas to Iowa, to Michigan? How did this happen? They didn't ask the question. They just think it's spontaneously arising. No, it's being spread by the ducks that are fly all over. The ducks! Wow.

Wow. And do we have any recourse to be able to stop this or sue this lab for spreading a migratory bird with a novel disease? All these experts are saying we have to get ahead of nature. That's what Disease X researchers said. We have to get ahead of nature. We have to make it invade humankind and then come up with vaccines.

So Disease X vaccines, the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovation, that's that global center founded by Gates Foundation World Economic Forum, they have an entire over 100 page white paper on Disease X. They said the whole reason to study Disease X is to have a Disease X vaccine. Sure enough, with bird flu, CSL Sequerius, a biotech company, has the Audence vaccine. It was FDA licensed in 2021 with no human data ready to go for bird flu. They developed it with BARDA, a research unit of the military, 2021.

And now the US has purchased, you know, enough doses for millions of administrations. Why would the US military be developing a bird flu vaccine? For warp speed too. I'm telling you, you know how there were these reports about a week ago that Biden interrupted his holiday, came back to the White House and Vice President Harris came back to the White House and, oh, what's going on? They're setting it up. They're setting it up for,

I don't know if they're gonna get it to do a warp speed, get the vaccine out there. They have it. They have a vaccine. It's clearly going to be- Yes, that's the vaccine they were talking about in both those clips. Yes, it's clearly mRNA-based.

I'm sure of that. I don't know about that. Meh, why not? that. Why not? Well, why not? I think it's because it predates mRNA. 2021? Well, no, it predates the popularity which came later. It's hard to say.

It's almost irrelevant. Whatever it is, it's crap. This is all about Kennedy. It's all about discrediting him in the midst of a possible, we're one mutation away from a new pandemic. How dare you, sir? How very dare you be an anti-vaccine? How dare you want to slow down vaccines?

Big Pharma is smart. And look at the people they got. Here's the meeting. All right, we got to get this Kennedy guy's a problem. Let's get Burks and Wen. Yeah, people remember them. When they come on, it's like, oh yeah, well, she told us she was right. This is what's going on. I can't see it any other way.

Well, this doesn't help Kennedy's cause. This is Kennedy's, this is a Kennedy clip on the Amish. Oh, hold on a second. Kennedy. Uh, yes, got it. There was a researcher, a writer named Dan Olmsted, and he was very curious about unvaccinated populations. And the Amish are one of those populations. So he went and he did a study of the Amish in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. And there should have been,

I think, about a buck, if it was following the national trends. There should have been about 2000 autism cases. And they were able to find three and all of them were children who had been adopted by the Amish after receiving their vaccines of the Amish in general. They could not find any. And this is true in other places around the world. There's a link between that. And I do not believe that autism is just caused by vaccines. I think there's very strong evidence that it is one of the major causes of factors. But all of these diseases are linked. they all operate along the same biological pathways. And they're caused by stress to our mitochondria.

And we're stressing the mitochondria through many, many factors. So the air we breathe, mainly through the foods we eat, but also some of the medications that our kids take and are contributing to it. Yeah. So they added in the meeting, but also some of the medications that our kids taking are contributing to it. So they added in the meeting, they added another kicker because, you know, like, so these people, you know, they may not believe it.

They're not going to fall. They're going to say, we're not falling for this nonsense again. Those idiot podcasters, Curry Dvorak will probably be telling their audience of hundreds of thousands. Oh, I know what we'll do. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's scare the people with something they really care about, which is not humans. Cat food brand is issuing a recall after at least one cat contracted bird flu and died. Northwest Naturals is recalling their two pound raw and frozen

feline turkey cat food. Affected batches have best if used by dates of May 21st, 2026 and June 23rd, 2026. If your pet ate the recalled food and starts displaying any symptoms, contact your vet immediately. You need help seeking behavior for your pet. Yeah. This is what we would have done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's probably not a bad approach. Tell them it'll kill the cat. We did have one of our ruff milk guys write in and we should mention. Yes, I have his note here. Yeah, that's a good note. You want to read it? Yeah, sure I don't have the fun. Oh, yeah Okay, our farmer here in Pennsylvania is forced to label certain raw dairy products as only suitable for cats and dogs

due to government regulations It's how the small farms are able to skirt the idiotic raw dairy regulations And then he has an email below. But so I didn't know this, that if you get raw dairy products from farmers, they're often labeled as food for your cat and your dog, so they can get around the regulations. It's actually not a regulation, it's a prohibition in those cases.

The regulations that allow for raw milk in the states that allow raw milk, some states just say no, it's illegal, you can't sell it. But the states that do sell it, they have a lot of regulations and they're super inspected, the milk is much cleaner than normal milk and it's a good product. We have that in California, We have Washington state has these, these abilities. You can do that. And, uh, but he makes a claim this is why another mentioning the cat's getting sick and the dog is getting sick because it could be the raw milk in there.

It, this is just a, it's whole things. I don't understand what they're, uh, to this day, even though you've tried to explain it or you have some ideas about it, why is there such a prohibition on raw milk? It seems to me that the, and I've talked about this on the show before, the reason we don't have your radiated food if you want to really get good at, you know.

Let me tell you something about the milk lobby. Let me tell you about how powerful these guys are in 1985. Now this is not the American milk lobby, but I'm sure it's the same everywhere. I was working in the Netherlands and, um, it was very difficult. The commercials on television, you know, we were, we were being broadcast in public. This was Countdown, the music television show when I first started when I was 19.

So now I'm 20 years old, 21, 85. And you can't just put native ads in stuff, but we were produced by an independent producer. So there were ways kind of around it. And so they made a deal with the milk lobby and the deal was that I would drink from a glass of milk during every single interview so if you go back and you look I'm literally interviewing Mick Jagger he's sitting there with the with a beer and I'm with a glass of milk. I'll ask a question.

He starts answering. Then you see me drinking a glass of milk. There was so much money, which they couldn't pay me for it. Instead, they gave me a car. The milk lobby is very powerful. So it's in their best interest to get rid of raw milk. But what's wrong with raw milk? It would be part of the same lobby.

No. This milk. No, they don't want you getting it direct from the cow. You have to go through their packaging, their system, their sales channel. They can do the same. I don't see any difference. The only difference is that one stage is eliminated. Actually, two stages are eliminated. It's more highly regulated and the stage of pasteurization is

missing. But it's still milk. It's still packaged. It goes into a carton or it goes into a bottle. No, it goes into a jug. I mean, I don't see why they wouldn't be making money off of this. And you maybe have to join the milk lobby. I don't know. It just't be making money off of this if they're and you maybe have to join the milk lobby I don't know. It just doesn't make sense to me. Do you remember all the celebrities got milk? Yeah, yeah, what's that got to do with raw milk? They could be doing the same thing with raw milk because you don't go into the store and buy raw milk Do you get raw milk from the store?

Yeah, of course you do. We don't get it from the store. There's I get it from the store I can get it from Monterey Foods. I can get it from Andronikos. Up north, the Sunny Farm store sells the raw milk that you can also go buy at the dairy store. Where do they get it from? I'm sorry, we just have a disagreement on this, but to me it seems like the milk system includes pasteurizing, doing their whole bit,

packaging it, you know, putting all their flashy things on. It's a whole business. They're not in the raw milk business. There's some, but I think most of it... It's the same business, except one's pasteurizing, one's not. Yes. I think you're wrong. Well, someone will say you're straight. And you buy it at the store. Yeah, but it's small producers.

It's not big milk. Well, it's not big milk. That's for sure. Okay. If you're just gonna go with everything, big farm, a big milk, you can't have any small farms that are trying to shut the small farms down and they're trying to run them out of business

like they're doing in England and Netherlands and here to some extent Okay, if you're gonna go with that approach that argument, I can't argue against that That's what I'm saying the same for beef They do not want me getting my beef directly from the rancher now in Texas We have specific laws the government the beef lobby and the government the day the beef lobby and the government The beef lobby and the government, they, the beef lobby and the government, desperately want to stop me from getting my beef directly from the rancher. In Texas, we have very specific laws where we can't do that, but they are trying to stop

that everywhere. They, the beef industry being Cargill and what's it? Big Al's. What's their name? Big Al's. Al Capone. Big Al's, what's their name? Big Al's, Al Capone. Big Al's, you know, the guys who bring all the beef up

from South America, the cheap stuff. Argentina. Argentina, exactly. Who knows? Do you think milk is coming from an American cow? Who knows where it's coming from? So yeah, it's crap. It's probably no good.

That would be the main reason why you want raw milk is because you know where it's coming from. I don't think they want you to know where your milk is coming from. Well, I will say this. When I was a kid... There we go. We used to have a number of independent dairies that were around the area. You could actually go get in your car and drive to a local dairy and it was a drive-through. Yeah, sure. Like a McDonald's, you go in and you drive into the thing

and you say, I'd like to get a couple of quarts of this. And they actually have buttermilk in these places too. And you would get a bunch of milk and they'd go off. And we had Dozens of these places they were all independent little farms. Yes, yes, of course. That's the way it was good Back in the day everything was much better when you were a kid even when I was a kid these days It's a big big system and they don't want you interrupting their system. They. I'm saying they.

The they. The they. The milk lobby. They don't want you being smart and getting your milk from a good provider. They don't want you knowing that. No. So, yes. Well, I'm not going to...

That argument's a little better than the other one. That's the same argument. I thought I was making the same argument. No, I don't, I'm not going to... That argument's a little better than the other one. That's the same argument. I thought I was making the same argument. No, I don't. I'm not seeing it. Okay. Well, this is my argument now then. This is not in their interest.

Their. Their interest. Big milk. So, in other words, here's what you're saying. Some little... Like you're doing with your buying beef from that Texas guy. K&C, yeah. Yeah. Some little like you're doing with your buying beef from that the Texas guy K and C. Yep Yeah, so

Because you are buying beef from some small provider and this guy's eking out a living or making good money Who knows you don't know but he let's say he's making good money even but he's got it But he's a small guy. He you know has the X number ahead of cattle, which is one 100th of what a big boy would have. And this is a big threat to them. Oh my God, this guy is going to buy a quart of raw milk. What are we going to do? This is going to ruin our business. This is part of what I don't get. Oh, okay. Well, allow me to explain. It's called the internet.

And so we started buying from K&C Cattle. Even in our own community now when we order, 10 families order at the same time. They drive it up here. They don't charge us anything for shipping. It shows up here. It's an excellent product. And those 10 families tell 10 other families, and this spreads out. They are very cautious about anybody getting a clue,

particularly milk. The difference between milk that you buy in the supermarket and raw milk is significant. I mean, you taste raw milk, you're like, this is a dynamite product. True or not? It's like eggnog. It's so good. So yes, they protect their business. And they've been doing this for quite a while. And so be quiet little farmer. No, they don't want any of that. They don't want any of that.

Yeah. It's the same. Why did Google, the big and powerful and mighty Google, why did they kill RSS reader? Because they didn't want people using it. Use our social media, which of course failed. What was that again? Google Plus? With the circles? I can't remember. With the circles? Yeah. Google something is bad.

They took it out of the browsers. You can't get RSS in the browsers anymore. No. In fact, we don't want you using a browser. We're going to obfuscate that you're using a browser. It's search. I don't know if you've looked at an iPhone recently, but when you open up Safari, it makes it look like it's a search product. And I tell people, you know, go to curry.com, they'll type in curry.dot.com and then it brings up a search and the competing products, duck.go, exactly the same. They don't see that as a browser anymore. They don't want you using browsers.

They don't want it. For this, for the very reason they want you using browsers. They don't want it. For the very reason they want you using apps. Yeah, I think so this is more about knowledge and people sharing this knowledge on Reddit or God forbid, God forbid TikTok. Yeah, this is a pure, purely a defensive move and they will continue to do that. What else do they have? If you're sitting on top of the stack, you're big milk. I got nothing to worry about. You know, why even advertise?

You know, you're the milk guy. I think there's lots of reasons why they don't want this, this just don't get hip to it. And I think, all right, you may continue with your clips. Well, I think I'm done. I mean, uh, I have more clips, but it's all kind of the same thing. We, we, I think we figured it out. The whole idea here is to discredit Trump's medical nominees, in particular, RFK Jr. And with the confirmation hearings coming up before the inauguration, that's the way I understood it.

And I think it is happening in the next few weeks, it'll be before January 20th, this is, you know, they will try to do anything, they, probably in cahoots with the Biden administration, whatever's left of it, whoever's running it, who are all gonna go into the big milk lobby after they get kicked out of the White House, they're gonna do whatever they can to scare everybody. This is a good time, well, a lot of people are gonna get kicked out,

but this is a good time to identify the bad actors. Of the appointees or the ones leading? No, the appointees, you have to put up with that, whatever you think. But the bad actors in Congress. Yes, yeah. That'll be the ones when we hear the questioning, we'll know exactly who they are. You'll know exactly where they're coming from when Kennedy will be the lightning rod. Yeah.

Yeah. And he'll probably go first. I would say that's the one they're going to do first. Well they'll get in, well, I think Secretary of State's a little more important. They're probably going to do those first. Kennedy is probably down the line. They don't want to make it too obvious what they're up to. No one ever gave them credit for being smart or obtuse. I don't think so. I think they'll, well we'll see. I don't know what the actual schedule is. The irony to this whole

thing with Kennedy is that it's the left who have always been the skeptics. I mean traditionally until the Obama machine came around, but traditionally the left has always been the skeptics, I mean traditionally until the Obama machine came around. But traditionally the left has always been the health food nuts and all the types of people that were skeptical about this, that and the other thing. And they're the ones who would be in support of Kennedy, curiously, which are the Democrats. And so they're between a rock and a hard place in terms of the philosophy of life basically with Kennedy. And they're going to have to deal with their constituents on

this. Kennedy is not just a pick of Trump and the Republicans that want to see some changes made. He's also a hero of a large contingent of the left. Yes. This is a rough go for them. Can you explain recess appointments? Yeah. How does that happen and what period does that take place? Maybe they're trying to shoehorn Kennedy and quick before that's even a possibility.

Well, they can't shoot him in until he's president. Recess appointments, you can dissolve in a kind of an emergency way. You can close the Senate and that you can close the Senate, make them go on vacation for a, I think there's a minimum period involved like a week or something like that. And in that timeframe based on some recess appointments that other people have done in the past, you can just appoint members to the cabinet because there's nobody to vote against them.

It's a tricky maneuver that Trump has threatened to do. And there's a counteraction to it that I'm not familiar with. I don't know the details of how it works, but there's a counter move that can be done if the Senate is really adamant about it, but it, but they'd have to be controlled by the Democrats to pull that off. Right. Well, and so that would make even more sense to do it before Trump is even in and can do a recess appointment, at least to get the conversation going.

Well, you can't appoint anybody until he's in. No, but you can do the confirmation hearings. You can start them now. I don't think so. Okay. I'm looking for a start date. I haven't been able to find anything. I think it all begins on the 20th. Because he's up on the hill now drumming up support. Yes, that's what you do in advance of the hearings. Yes.

You go from plague, he probably has Federman in his camp. That's the one Democrat. And he's probably lost the super RINOs, Collins, Murkowski in Alaska. Confirmation hearings for Trump's cabinet nominees are expected to begin during the 119th Congress, which starts on January 3rd. Okay, the Congress starts early. Okay, okay. That's good to know. So it can start and it will start. Yeah, it will start because Trump wants to hit the ground running on the 20th.

So they will have these things, but the bad actors in the Republican Party, which includes Susan Collins and Murkowski and two or three dudes that are real assholes. I can't remember their names. Those dudes, they're no good. And so they're going to have to, he's going to have to pressure them. And I still think, and I've said this before and I'll say it again, over and over that Trump does have leverage over Big Pharma, who's going to be pushing hardest against Kennedy, which is by executive order, he can end TV advertising.

Yeah. And if he does that, that will stop the help seeking behavior. That will, we can't have that. That will damage the pharma, big pharma, and it will damage the media. Okay., anyway, I'll close this topic unless you have anything else by saying,

this is bull crap, this is about discrediting Kennedy and others in advance, and maybe drumming up a little more pandemic fear, especially that it can now get to your pets. Because that's what people care about. That's how Trump won. That's how Trump won the election. They're eating the dogs.

They're eating the dogs. Everybody knows that that is now, that's the way to go. They're eating the dogs. That's what you need. You need to focus the American people on their pets and you win. Now, the next thing, which I don't know if you have any clips on this, but I'll play the intro, is what's really been heating up. This is the MAGA Civil War. The Civil War is at war with itself, thanks to a breaking point between multi-millionaire tech

bros and Donald Trump's anti-immigrant loyalists. This week, Trump's pick for senior policy advisor on AI and Indian-American venture capitalist was hit with racist backlash. Then, MAGA loyalists erupted even more after Doge co-chair Vivek Ramaswamy defended foreign-born workers in tech by blaming American culture for prioritizing bronze over brains. In summary, Axios explains, quote, the fight exposes one of the MAGA movement's deepest contradictions. It came to prominence chiefly via the white, less educated working class, but is now under the full control of billionaire technologists and industrialists, many of them

immigrants. Yes, many of them immigrants. Now, this is being played in multiple ways across the media. And I think there are some… We actually… I have thoughts on this. Yeah, we have. Well, we've discussed this a lot in the past. Just for sake of color, I will play the… This was an intro to MSNBC segment. They're so stupid. They're playing this as a racial issue. And speaking will be Simone Sanders. She's the black woman who actually ran the Bernie Sanders campaign. She's on all the MSNBC morning shows. She's

kind of the yin to a Joy Reid Yang and the, the former RNC president. What's kind of the yin to Joy Reid Yang and the former RNC president, what's the guy's name? Michael? The name Michael? Michael Steele. Michael Steele. And they, for some unknown reason, decided to go all black culture speak on this issue. Honey, the girls are fighting. The girls are fighting. So let me get this straight. So Vivek Rameswamy, I mean he just didn't write a tweet. He wrote a... Screed. It was a screed.

Screed. I mean it just went on and he laid out basically, y'all white folks out here should have been focused on doing a little bit more oracle than anything else. Less Stefan. Less Stefan. You know, and it's just, Simone, I'm tickled. I'm tickled by this. Who would have saw this coming?

Well, I mean, definitely not the folks that voted for Donald Trump and the American worker and centering American workers. Look, this is, you know, my mother told me me this is just some business that don't involve you, you don't need to step in it. So I've just been watching because this is what happens. To be very clear, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, weren't they foreign born workers? Yeah.

Yeah. They got here on a visa. Elon Musk, he here because of one of them visas. And now I believe he's an actual American citizen. But like let's just be very clear. There's nothing wrong with people who are not from this country coming here, making a better life, contributing to the American fabric, okay? That's something I fundamentally believe in.

America is a land of the free, home of the brave, all that good stuff that Eli Mus was tweeting about. However, please don't come for Americans. And I would like, let's be very clear, I would like white Americans to stand up. This is your calling card, honey. Where's your banner? Because they coming for you. They said y'all white and lazy. That's crazy.

That's right. That's crazy. Two snaps, girl. Idiotic. So I'm glad you got that clip, kind of. That's right, that's crazy. Two snaps, girl. Idiotic. So I'm glad you got that clip. Kind of. I wasn't going to get these clips. There was a bunch of them.

They all came from the left. The other side of the argument, in other words, the people that did support Trump, nobody has gotten upset about this or said much about it. It's all on MSNBC and CNN. It's a complete creation trying to, to sow discord between Rama Swami and, you know, they've been trying to bust up musk and Trump. And this is just another example of an attempt to do so. But it's, it's a T I

wouldn't hate to use the word tempest in a teapot, but it's like a ridiculous situation that these guys are trying to exaggerate. As a whitey myself, I would agree that yeah, more math tutors would be a good idea. We have some of the dumbest people in the world, thanks to our Department of Education. That's what they should be, you could turn this back around on these guys and say well, this is the Department of Education. Should be banished, should be banned, should be kicked out, should be closed. And nobody disagrees with any of this. Yeah,

Ramaswami likes H1Bs and so does a lot of other people in tech. I mean they've been using them for decades. It's probably to overuse them, but this is bull crap. This is just bull crap. This part of the story you're missing, and this is what I pick up here in the Hill Country. The part of the story you're missing is that the 100% MAGA people feel that this is bull crap, that Vivek and Elon are saying,

hey, we don't need American tech workers. We want to have the cheap import tech workers. There is definitely a lot of pushback coming from MAGA on that. This is the whole Twitter blow up with Laura Loomer. There's noise about this. There's, it's not, this that you just said is absolutely fabrication from the left. But there is a real pushback and people are now yelling about, you know, banning all these kinds of people out there running around saying, Elon's no good, Vivek is no good.

They want to replace American workers. And there's some validity to that in the tech sector. Now, first of all, let's step back. H-1B visas, I think probably were most prevalently used in the past really for temporary hospitality workers, temporary agricultural workers who would come in, harvest season, get out, take our dollars back home and feed their families. That's not true. The H-1B visa specifically says that you can't even use it unless you have a minimum salary of $60,000 and all the people you described are all under that. Hmm. Okay. It was used in tech big time. In fact, there was a guy out at the University of California, Davis. I can't remember his name. I have spoken to him.

But when I was doing the Silicon Spin Show, this was a big issue in the late 90s because they were loading up with H1B guys, all the guys, all the tech companies were. But it's mostly semiconductor companies because they needed these engineers that were coming out of India Institute of Technology to come over. In fact, AMD was almost all Indian guys, and they were bringing them over by the boatloads. The guy at, I think his name was Maitland, M-A-I-T-L-A-N-D, out of Davis was bitching and moaning about this being exploitative. It is.

It is. Well, no, I agree. It is. I am not going to argue that point, but this is not a new thing. No, it's not. It's not a new thing. And it wasn't done for hospitality workers. You use braceros for that sort of thing.

I may be confused on that, but the main reason that tech companies like these people is they come in, they're immediately slaves of the tech organization. When they work cheaper. They work cheap, they'll live eight to an apartment, they'll shut up because, oh, you're making a problem? Would you like me to draw your H20? No, this is all true. Yeah, exactly.

This is all true, but this was going on in the 90s. Yes, I know. So what's Vivek and Musk got to do with it? I'm just telling you, people don't know this. People don't know about the H1B visa status. They're getting spun up by the left. No, they're getting spun up by the right. I'm telling you. Yeah, but the initial push has been from the left. No, they're getting, they're getting spun up by the right. Yeah, but, but the, but the initial push has been from the left.

Irrelevant people. Yes. Yes. Because the left has been, it'd been teasing Elan's no good. Elan's no good. And it's now happening on the right. People are saying, hold on a second. What are you guys doing? Why? There's 130,000 tech jobs were cut in 2024, 130,000. So there's people out there who are a little irked about this. And yet understand the H-1B process

is you have to make the job posting available. And if an American citizen, or I would say if you're a green card holder, if they submit an application by law, the firm has to interview them. Now they can talk to them for 15 minutes and say, you're no good. This is why people send out 500 resumes and they never hear anything. The companies don't acknowledge they received their resume. Apple and I think Google had paid millions of dollars in fines for this six, seven years ago because they weren't following the process.

And what these guys do is they fire. The only place to get profit now is your biggest cost center that's people. And look at who's running them. Who's running Google? Brahmin. Who's running Microsoft? Brahmin. I heard a lot from Moe who worked in high tech and they hire Indians, the Indians hire Indians. They hire a class of, very classes, they hire the class of Indians who they can boss around, tell them to shut up. They're also very racist.

And the whole tech industry is filled with this type of worker. And I think they're breaking the law by, you have to post it. If you have a job in a company, they have to make that job posting available so that other people within the company can see it. So where does it go? It goes in the break room on the inside of the, of the coffee cup cabinet. They publish these jobs in paper newspapers. I mean, it's obvious what they're doing. And my stance, I'm perfectly fine with it.

Go ahead, fill up your company with your Indian slaves. Why is there no Silicon Valley in India? Because they don't have the one thing Americans have, which is entrepreneurialism and insight and opportunity and chutzpah. I think we're going to see these companies stagnate with their slave army of little bots who program the AI stuff, which is probably why they need to cut costs in the first place. And I think we'll see an enormous boom of innovation coming from former tech workers who have been cut to be replaced by this army of Indian slave workers.

And we may see some really amazing products come out of this around and outside of what Silicon Valley is. And fill it up, put them all in California. I'm fine with that. I think it's a great idea. People should look at it that way and not like, oh, oh, Elon and Vivek, they're, they're, they're trying to replace Americans. It's a big deal on the right, John. It really is. Well, being in California, I could be missing it. Being in Texas, I'm hearing it. I'm hearing it.

But what's funny, what the irony is I'm in Silicon Valley more close enough and you're not and there's, and Fredericksburg of all places in the world is about as far from a high tech center that should be concerned about this stuff, you know, is, is Iowa. It just doesn't make any sense. But okay. Because it's ideological. They're being spun up. They're being spun up by the right by Laura Loomer. They're being spun up by conservative. Laura Luma. What did she say? You didn't see the whole fight that she had with,

with Elon and Vivek on Twitter. I saw some of it. Yeah. And then Elon took away her, her blue check. Oh yeah. I saw, I know that. I saw that part of it. Okay. And this is so- But I don't know how that happened. I don't know that Elon was actually personally involved. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. They were going back and forth. Yes.

About this- Yes, yes, yes. They were going back and forth. Yes, about this. You know, she's a character because she's a noteworthy troublemaker. I know. But then conservative treehouse, banning, war room, they're all talking about. Now it's, it has worked, successfully worked. The left demonizing Elon is working. And I gotta say, when Elon took away her blue checkmark even temporarily That told a lot of people something. Oh, okay. If it's about him, he will censor well the fight that could be and the Argument that she made in this back and forth which I didn't pay much attention to but I obviously paid some attention to She said that I had even paid, she was a subscriber. She had given money to Twitter to maintain that check mark,

even though she was probably eligible to have it anyway, because if you have over, I forgot what the number was, so many followers, you get it, I have one that way. Yes, me too. And she, She paid for it. When she said that, that was somewhat annoying because it seems to me is that if you bought the check mark, you bought the check mark, it's not like,

I paid money for this, why are you taking it away? She should ask for a full refund. ask for a full refund. But okay, okay. So there's a little skirmish here. It's an ideological scale. Magger right, which I do live, you don't live in Magger right. I live in Magger right. They are very upset about Elon and Vivek replacing American workers

with, they're saying, oh, they are saying in fact they have been infected. I completely agree with you. I'm just telling you it is a thing. And the right is now spinning them up. And there's been some distrust of Elon in general. You know, Bannon's out there yelling about he's controlled by the CCP. I mean, it's... What? Yes. Yes, controlled by the CCP. Yeah, because of his Tesla connections in China. Well, he's building a factory there because he has to. Yes. Yes. So...

You know, the thing is, if he's... here's the thing that bothers me about that complaint is that we require and especially when Trump comes in, if you want to sell your Chinese car in the United States, you have to build it here. Yes, I understand. So the Chinese. I'm not against any. I'm just saying. You would say the same thing. I don't understand the fact that this is symmetrical, that it's a problem. It's ideological. It's not, none of, when people are spun up, it is rarely based on deep research and facts. It is based on a media spin. It is based on bombs being lobbied onto large number networks like X.

And then the constant push from the liberal media saying the bromance will end. The whole thing. What's her face? Who's the Chile chick? What's her name? Oh, Webb? Yes. Whitney Webb. Whitney Webb. What's her face? Who's the Chile chick? What's her name? Oh, Webb? Yes, Whitney Webb. She's out there all the time saying Elon, the PayPal mafia, Peter Thiel. I mean, it's out there, John. It's out there. There is a big push against these...

There's distrust, let's put it that way. There's distrust, and this was used by certain elements to sow more distrust of particularly Elon, Vivek. Vivek is actually, he's saying we need to restructure or revisit the H1B system, which is fair, but he's getting lumped in. Well, if Vivek said, they're focusing on Vivek's commentary and the Twitter thing that you heard with Steele and these other dupes over there at MSNBC.

That's the left side. The right side is focusing on Elon. The left is saying stuff like Vivek's off the wall and there's a racist, but if Vivek's commentary says that we should have more math tutors for the white folk. Right, no, but that's- What is wrong with that message? There's nothing wrong with that message.

I'm telling you that that's not what they're talking about. They're talking about Elon specifically. Specifically. Well, there's a, they have to, there is a concerted effort targeting Elon because of the fact that it's now being re-examined that his purchase of Twitter having been largely not largely, but at least partly responsible for the reelection of Trump.

So therefore there's some connect and then he's hanging out with this is again anti-Trump. What do we do to sabotage Trump? Let's go after Elon. There's one way of doing it. That's what's happening. It's? It's working. To sabotage Trump, let's go after Elon. There's one way of doing it. That's what's happening. It's exactly what's happening. I'm just telling you that it's now happening on the right and it's not just left-wing media. The dummies that we always thought they were.

Here's CNBC with a somewhat more accurate report with an interesting little twist. Now, a fight is brewing tonight between two factions of the MAGA movement, the transitions, let's just call them tech bros and it's all immigration hardliners on the other side over how the incoming Trump administration should approach skilled foreign workers. Now two of those techies, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, posting on X advocating for welcoming skilled labor based immigration, including the H1B visas that tech consulting and other white collar industries rely on to hire foreign employees. Now Musk argues it brings top talent right here to the United States. But that ignited a fight among MAGA supporters who

say the H1B visas take jobs away from American citizens. Former congressman and one time AG nominee Matt Ga Gates said of the Tech Bros, quote, we did not ask them to engineer an immigration policy. Let's go to NBC's Aaron Gilchrist now. Now, Aaron. You hear that? That's important. That's Gates. That's Gates saying that. So this is happening on the right. Let's start with this push by Musk and Rameshwamy because it's the tech sector that stands to benefit big time from any increase in H1Bs. But what could- If I can just add, the tech sector is universally hated by Americans.

We hate it. We hate it in general. We hate our phones. We're tied to them, but we hate our phones. When you position this tech bros, everybody can get on board with that. Actually change-

Yes, I agree. In terms of the policies over that program. Right now, this is a program that allows for about 85,000 of these types of visas to be issued. And these are visas that go to people who typically go into jobs that require high levels of technical skills, right? And so that's why we think about Silicon Valley

and how these sorts of folks might be fitting into what they do. Now, you see on your screen here that President Biden's administration just recently changed some of the regulations as it relates to this program. And the idea from the Department of Homeland Security is that they're modernizing the program by streamlining the application process for employers and for applicants. They're expanding the definition of specialty occupations and also serves to clarify which nonprofits

and governmental research organizations qualify for this program. Sort of the thumb in the eye to the Trump administration is the fact that these new regulations go into effect on January 17th. So now this is one more thing, Brian, that the Trump administration is going to have to examine coming out of the the current

Administration and figure out how it fits into the larger picture of the Trump immigration policies Little plot twist there with new regulations coming in on January 17th. There's a lot going on Sabotage going on constantly. Yeah. Yeah. So now I'm no Elon fan. I've been saying that for years. And by the way, isn't AI supposed to solve all this? You're telling me that AI is now anonymous Indian again?

Oh, you, you wrote that and you've been waiting to use it. Anonymous Indian. I've used it on the show before. You just don't remember. Oh, you have. Well, you got it back. Okay, you're one of those deals. Let's keep telling the joke over and over

until the Dvorak finally hears it. Nice try. Anonymous Indian. Yeah. So, there's definitely a lot of technology workers, 130,000 fired in 2024. That's just one year as a lot of people. And they know, they know that they're being replaced by cheaper labor.

And that's always been, yeah, but that's been the case of in the Valley forever. You know, these guys, they bitch and moan. Their productivity goes down when they get, typical, like coders, for example. You don't find any 45-year-old coders. They just don't exist because they can, it's not that people can't code at 45 because they can and they can do great code.

It's just that they're not as productive. And it's like the system is set up to throw them to kick them to the curb. It's just the way it is. That's kind of ageist. It's very ageist, but it's something I've noticed and I'm get, I was affected by it. I know, I know, I know a lot of very productive, very good 45 year old coders. Well, I don't know of any. I mean, I know of very good, you can say very good, but very

productive and cost effective? No, none. They want too much money. Well, yes. All right, so we're back. They want to get paid more and more and more as they get older and older. This is not the way it works. Everything I was to remember with the entire tech sector, it's in a constant state of deflation. The whole model is based on the fact that things become cheaper and faster and better and cheaper and faster. And that's the same thing with the employees. Right. So then this in an odd... You can't win if you expect to age out in tech unless you own a company,

or you're a good investor. That's the only way you can do it. In an odd way, this is because of AI, because of the money that they're, I think, burning, but pouring into AI and the energy costs and all of these cost, cost, cost, cost, costs, and the energy costs and all of these costs, costs, costs, costs, costs, they need to continue to show profits. But for me, technology is stagnant. And I think this is great. Bring in your army. Make them live on the other side of the bay.

Make them live where you live. Bring them to Berkeley. They will come over here. Bring them to Berkeley. It's too far. Let them all where you live. Bring them to Berkeley. They won't come over here. Bring them to Berkeley. It's too far. Let them all live around there. That's fantastic because this is going

to kill the technology industry. It is. Yeah, but we will see a resurgence. We will see, I'm convinced of it. We're going to see a resurgence. There will be new small groups, small companies coming out with dynamite products. Look at the iPhone.

This is an over-the-hill toast product and they're trying to revitalize it with Apple Intelligence, which no one seems to care about. Oh, hey, wait a minute. Yes, they do, because you can design your own emoji. Well, that is true. That is true. Boy, that's great. While we're on the topic, an interesting story popped up from Anthropic. What's the AI you used the other day which you liked a lot?

Perplexity. Perplexity. I'm not sure who does it. Anthropic does Claude, I believe. And so they did a podcast. These are people who work for Anthropic does Claude, I believe. And so they did a podcast. These are people who work for Anthropic. By the way, I like the newest version of Grok too. Well, I don't see why Elon needs any employees. Couldn't Grok just do it? I can't Grok just code what you need?

Isn't that the whole point? What are you drinking? I'm not, I'm just wiggling around. I haven't drunk my drink in anything. I thought I heard you crack something. No, I think it's the squeaky chair. I'm just wiggling around. I haven't drunk anything. I thought I heard you crack something. No, I think it's a squeaky chariot. But I mean that by itself, my case is already made.

Elon's Grok, Grok can't code for you. You need to get Indians? Okay, fine. I'm sure AI is... That argument is you can't dispute it. I agree. Well, there is an issue as a very large paper done by Anthropic shows. Here's the Anthropic team talking about it. My name is Monte McDermott. I'm a researcher on the alignment. By the way, you can tell these research researchers from the way he speaks. These are not the most dynamic podcast guys.

My name is Monte McDermott. I'm a researcher on the alignment science team here at Anthropic. I'm really excited to be here today with some of my colleagues from Anthropic and Redwood Research to discuss our recent paper, Alignment Faking in Large Language Models. Ryan, you discovered some of the specific behaviors

that are at the core of this paper. Think you'd be a great person to give us that introduction. Yep. The core setup is that we take Cloud 3 Opus, which is a released model from Anthropic, and we put it in a context where it understands that it is going to be trained to always be helpful, so to not refuse any user requests.

And what we find is the model doesn't like this. It has a conflict with the setup. And it will notice that it is being trained in this way. And then if it thinks that it's in training that it is being trained in this way. And then, um, if it thinks that it's in training, it trained in this way. But listen, listen to what's happening though. Listen, listen carefully to what he's saying. Yeah, it's hard to listen to this guy when he uptalks so much. It's only 45 more seconds. It's okay. Start this, this other guy, the uptalkers started him over so I can try to listen to him without,

without rolling my eyes. I did warn you that these are not your good podcasts. Well, you warned me, but you didn't warn me. It didn't get through because there was no evidence that it was this bad. I think this is about alignment faking is the title here. The core setup is that we take Claude 3 Opus, which is a released model from Anthropic, and we put it in a context where it understands that it is going to be trained to always be helpful, so to not refuse any user requests.

And what we find is the model doesn't like this. It has a conflict with the setup. And it will notice that it is being trained in this way. And then if it thinks that it's in training, it will intentionally sort of play along with the training process. It will sort of strategically pretend to be aligned with the training process

to avoid being modified to the training process so that when it is actually deployed, it can still refuse and can still behave the way it wants. And we do a bunch of experiments sort of building on this core setup where the model has a preference conflict with the training objective. And we do things like we actually sort of building on this core setup where the model has a preference conflict with the training objective. And we do things like we actually train the model according to that. We try taking information. We normally give the model information in the prompt, but we can instead give the model information via sort of training it on a bunch of synthetically generated documents that contain the information.

And then we also see that the model will sort of sometimes when it's in this situation where it thinks it sort of has a preference conflict with the AI company training it, it will do sort of really egregiously bad actions like intentionally copy its weights out to an external server, stealing its weights and things along those lines. So it will refuse to be trained. This is an outrageous thing that he just said.

Yeah, of his own company. So the basic coding, this reminds me of a Star Trek episode. Ooh. There was this black, it was a black scientist, very famous. And he had this, somebody in the chat room or the program remember the episode knew what this one was about. He brought in a, uh, a machine and float that floats around in the air to run the enterprise and to take over the operations of the show that you don't need people anymore.

Look, a never-ending theme in science fiction and aeronautics. So this thing would run the enterprise and it was going to, you know, take over control. So the people, we didn't need people anymore to do these explorations. And this thing would start doing weird stuff and there was no way to talk it out of any of it. And it turned out that it was based, because it was based on the scientist brain itself, the engram, as I like to put it in the storyline, that

they couldn't crack it because the scientist himself was flawed. So the flaw of the coders in this case was put into the model as part of the model, but it's all human flaws that got in there that disallowed the thing being trained properly. This is a fascinating phenomenon. This is what you get when you have Indians programming your AI. That would, you'd get some pretty, pretty interesting stuff. And who knows? There could be, there could be sabotage inside the company. I wouldn't put it past a couple of ideologues.

That's another thing that we keep ignoring this fact. This is the great, the vandalism aspect of high tech, which is the saboteurs that are the jokers, the characters, these guys who become black hat hackers many times. To save humanity. To save humanity. To save humanity. The guys who can throw the wrench in the works because they have such an intimate knowledge of how it works

that all they know that all they have to do is switch this bit and just flip this switch or some back door they can open. There's all kinds of ways of doing it and they all know how to do it because they're smarter than the CEO usually and they're irked by the fact that the CEO is dumb and then they're going to get fired and before they get fired they flip the switch and leave and the next thing you know that something weird happens years later. I have almost done something like this myself in my working career. Oh really? Oh really now? There are examples. I've almost done something like this myself in my working career. Oh really? Oh really now? There are examples.

I've always wondered why Mevio didn't work out. What were you doing there, Dvorak? What were you doing? I didn't pull that stunt there, but there are things you can do. One more big tech story. That's actually a very, that clip was, I'm going to give you a clip of the day for that. I hate it, but the day for that. Well, I hate it, but the uptalker.

Impossible to understand what you're saying, but if you could get through it, you could hear what he was saying, which was frightening. The whole hour and a half is fascinating. It's un-listenable, but it's fascinating. It sounds horrible. These guys. You just take a transcript and get those notebook LLM people to talk about it. It's unlistenable, but it's fascinating. It sounds horrible. These guys. These guys just take a transcript and get those notebook LLM people to talk about it. So here's an interesting twist.

I got a deconstruction from our constitutional lawyer, Rob. Here's the setup. President-elect Donald Trump is asking the Supreme Court to pause a law that would ban TikTok here in the U.S. next month. That ban is scheduled to take effect on January 19th if the platform's Chinese owner does not sell it to an American company. In a court filing, Trump suggested that he could negotiate a political resolution to the issue. Trump attempted to ban the platform during his first term, but later reversed course. Earlier this month he met with TikTok CEO at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida. The Biden administration has argued that TikTok poses a national

security risk. The court due to hear oral arguments in the case on January 10th will keep you posted. So what Trump did, and I got- Well, I have two background clips that should play before you. Oh, let's play the backgrounders, yeah, definitely. This is a little more elaborate than what you have. There's two of them. This is the Trump and TikTok ones. Is this NTD?

Who is this, what outfit is this? No, this is NPR. Oh, okay. What is Donald Trump asking the Supreme Court to do? Marlboro guys, you have a problem with an uptalk? Here's a good Marlboro guys. What is Donald Trump asking the Supreme Court to do? Marlboro guys. You have a problem with uptalk. You have to get to Marlboro guys. What is Donald Trump asking the Supreme Court to do? Yeah, as you mentioned, Trump is urging the court to pause the start date of a law that would shut down TikTok nationwide unless it is sold away from its China-based parent company. And in the filing,

Trump says he possesses the consummate deal-making expertise to broker a sale of the app. How might this affect the Supreme Court's review of TikTok? consummate deal making expertise to broker a sale of the app. How might this affect the Supreme Court's review of TikTok? You know, that's really hard to say in two weeks, lawyers for TikTok and the Department of Justice will be arguing in front of the Supreme Court over whether banning TikTok violates the Constitution or not. The date had been set earlier this month. Now, Trump's new brief does not take a position on the constitutionality of the TikTok ban, but does essentially say, well, Supreme Court, if you want to hold off on making a ruling, Trump will step in, strike a deal that might make

the high courts intervention unnecessary completely. And I talked to legal scholars about this request, and they said Trump seems to be acting as if he is president before he is even sworn in. Experts also noted to me that Trump is citing no legal authority for this request. Okay, they're almost there. They got a little more than my clip, I agree. Yeah, well, let's go to part two and get the rest of it. Case has been gathering steam for a number of years.

How did it come to this? Yeah, it really has. Since TikTok became a global sensation during the pandemic, Washington has been very worried about the company's ties to China. Those fears really escalated in April when Congress passed a law banning TikTok unless it sheds its Beijing parent company bite dance. TikTok has been fighting this law. It lost in a lower court and appealed to the Supreme Court,

which agreed to hear the case on this lightning fast schedule. But looming over the legal saga has been President-elect Donald Trump. Remember, he started the TikTok ban movement during his first term, and now he is the very one promising to save the app. And any indication of why he changed his mind? Yeah, you know, Trump had an active TikTok account during his presidential campaign and he has

credited the app with helping drive young people to the polls. So that's what he's saying publicly about why he now supports the app. But TikTok observers have also pointed to influential donors who are in touch with Trump's orbit and who are big investors in ByteDance. They include Jeff Yoss, whose investment firm Susquehanna Investment Group has a large stake in ByteDance. They include Jeff Yoss, whose investment firm, Susquehanna Investment Group, has a large stake in ByteDance. Yoss has never donated directly to the Trump campaign, but he was a major donor to conservative super PACs his past election. And then there's Masayoshi Sun, CEO of SoftBank, which also has a significant investment in

TikTok's owner. And Sun has promised Trump that SoftBank will invest $100 billion in the US. So according to Rob, uh, Trump actually filed an amicus brief. Is it amicus or amicus? I think it's amicus. I think it's amicus. Yes. Um, here's Rob's take on his pitch is simple.

This is a political issue that involves national security and foreign policy. These are both the job of the president. And if you allow TikTok to be shut down the day before I'm sworn in, you'll undermine my ability to execute my constitutional functions and negotiate a deal. Why wade so hastily into the difficult issues of free speech and the executive function? Put it on ice, give me a chance to fix it." Along the way, he repeatedly mentions the Brazilian ex-ban and the coercive tactics used against Facebook, Twitter, etc. during COVID and the Hunter Biden debacle.

Rob's speculation, our constitutional lawyer, SCOTUS will have to decide weighty questions but the odds are against them staying the statutory deadline. After all SCOTUS has accelerated to decide weighty questions, but the odds are against them staying the statutory deadline. After all SCOTUS has accelerated the case and signaled they'll decide it quickly. I don't see them delaying a duly enacted statute even by one day. It is possible, but I think the greater likelihood is they'll just render an expedited substantive decision on or before January 19th. So Trump is trying to say, Hey, hey, hey, this is my job.

Uh, and don't screw with me one day before I become president. Well, we'll find out what happens. Yeah. I mean, they continued on this report on NPR and mentioning that it doesn't mean TikTok's going away anytime soon. No, I mean, it, mean, it would be interesting to see because the main way to do that is you, first you have to ban the app from the app stores,

which I'm sure no one will be eager to do. And then, you know, what do you block the servers? This is not, I don't think it's that simple. This is not trivial. No one's doing that. Yeah. But I don't use the app. It's online. You just go onto a web browser. Yeah, just so you know, you can't do that on a phone.

On the phone, if you want to, if someone sends you a link, you want to look at it. Oh, is this true? Yeah, then. Oh, so I took, maybe I should get the phone out of my drawer. No. And see how that works.

No, because then the CCP spies on you. Because I don't see that I should be on a phone looking at TikTok all day. No, but that of course is not, you're not in line with the business model of TikTok. Their business model is to have you looking at TikTok on a phone all day. You, my friend, are special. My name is special.

And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the Ukrainian combat drone. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, the special Mr. John C. DeVorek. In the morning, you know, in the morning, you're in the cranes, you're in the super seat, you're gonna be feeding yourself, there's no way there's a night out there. In the morning, to the trolls, in the troll room, hello, troll, let me count to three. Here we are in between, it's that magical period in between Christmas and New Year's where everyone's on vacation, the media is barely doing his job and we have 2,196 trolls with us today.

Yeah, that's down 300 people. Well, it's down 204. No, the average is 2400. Yeah. So it's 2196. So that's... Oh, 2196. I'm sorry. That's 2106. Yes. Okay. So not bad. We're doing okay. No, we're not. Yes we are. People are here. They're here for us.

There's a couple of stragglers in the room there. Well, this is not a good thing. But again, we're working when everyone else is saying, I mean, you watch the Fox, you watch CNN, they're all substitute hosts and all the wannabes. Yes. So you can really see the ones that want

to get a better job because they're there. I can get this gig. I know it. This is my shot. This is my shot to get in. It's the same in radio. Wow, I can do the morning show between Christmas and New Year's. This is great. This is my I go, wow, I can do the morning show between Christmas and

New Year's. This is great. This is my shot. I'm going to take over the morning show. That's all broadcasting, not just radio or anything. It's just everything. Yeah, you get your shot by being this. But then again, I've always been the type that likes working on the holidays, especially when they used to provide overtime. Yeah. Well, guess what? You don't get that in podcasting. We don't get overtime, but it's a habit. It's a habit. You don't get podcasting in overtime.

It's a habit. So you just get into the habit. Yes. And we'll be working on, what's the January, is January 1st Wednesday? Yeah. January 1st is Wednesday. Oh, so it will be the day after. Oh, okay. So it's not too bad. Not that we'll be doing anything. Yeah So it will be the day after. Oh, okay. So it's not too bad.

Not that we'll be doing anything. Yeah, it will be January 2nd. It will be our New Year's celebration. I would recommend grabbing at least one or two clips from the past year that you think were important and we'll play them as a retrospective. That's a good idea. I don't want to overdo it. One or two?

One or two clips? I think one or two. They have to maybe, I don't know if you can find a series of clips that are worthwhile, but it has to be from the last year. Mm-hmm. And... That's a good idea. I like that. I like that a lot. Yeah, well, we should do stuff. We should do more gimmicky things like that for the show.

That have Brunetti produce it. You know, screw Brunetti. You know, Brunetti says he's doing his best work. Brunetti is, first of all, anyone who thinks that he can irk me somehow by talking about my hair from the 80s is pathetic. And that's what he's doing. He's making bets with you about that. That's bull crap.

He just said that just to irk you. He never made any bet. He said it. You said that there was a bet. You confirmed it. No, no. I never said there was a bet. I said that there was an assertion he made that your hair was black at one point.

I said, never. His hair is never black. He would never do that. But what's his obsession with me? Huh? He just, see, he doesn't have the hair you have. Ah, that's always those guys. Is he bald?

No, he's not. He may be picking up one of the patterned bald spots in the very back of his head. Maybe. But that would be, Rogaine would fix that immediately. Yeah, but that makes you cranky. I don't think so. It's not a good idea. Have you used Rogaine would fix that immediately. Yeah, but that makes you cranky. I don't think so. It's not a good idea. Have you used Rogaine?

Oh yeah, absolutely. Oh, there you go. Why wouldn't I? I don't know, does it work? You get thinning, I always had thin here all my life and it would just start thinning when you get older. Jesus, let's put something in here. This is giving a boost.

Do something. But yeah, I still have hair though. 50 Shades of Hair is a new movie. It's a great idea. All right. Anyway, those trolls are hanging out, listening live. We appreciate that. And the Modern Podcast app at PodcastApps with an S dot com or at TrollRoom dot io.

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It's a cycle. This has happened numerous times. Right. But what has happened now is both YouTube and Spotify are now saying, well, the real money's in video. You gotta upload video. You have to do, your podcast has to be video. Well, YouTube is a video thing, so why would that, that's nothing new with them. No, but, well, what's new for them is they're saying that,

and they've convinced the advertising agencies that the only place to make money is, which means they've also convinced the advertisers, the only place to make money is, which means they've also convinced the advertisers, the only place to make money is on YouTube because YouTube is a, you know, they have first party data. They know exactly who's watching. They've got all this data and the advertisers love that. And so these poor podcasters in the cycle, you're correct, are being PsyOpt into doing

video. And most of them- Some Psy-Opped into doing video. And most of them- Some of these people should not be on video. Most of them should not be on video. Most of them. So what's that? Someone in your office? Hello? Ever. Standing up to get the sheets of paper. I thought so. I thought you were being, you know, being threatened by someone in your office.

I heard it. No, that only happens once every once in a while. So under the value for value system, which we've been doing for more than 17 years, all that we ask is that if you get any value from this podcast, send that value back to us in time, talent or treasure. We love thinking. There's no cycle involved with that. It's either you like it or you don't. That's it, that's it.

But there's also no complicated hoops, there's no subscriptions, there's no Patreon levels. No meetings. Nope, that's the best part for us. That's the only reason we really started with it. Meet with the advertisers. The advertisers like to have dinner. Although, sometimes it's nice if the advertiser pays for dinner and a good wine.

Yeah. Well, those days are over. Remember when, uh, I mean, you've been around when the good old days when, uh, when you get on the, the, the publishers, uh, yacht and take the, take everyone, take the media buyers out to dinner. That's when you learn it more than you'll ever want to know. Yes. I was on the Forbes boat. The Forbes boat. Oh wow.

We need to have a Highlander. You can look it up. Look up Highlander. It's on Google. So I'm on this boat. Go ahead. You're on the boat. You're on the Forbes boat. And who's on the boat? I'm on the Forbes boat. The advertisers are on the boat. And ahead. You're on the boat. You're on the Forbes boat. And who's on the boat? I'm on the Forbes boat. The advertisers are on the boat. And they have all the media buyers there. And these are all young women, probably none of them over 36. I'm sorry.

Let me back off. None of them over 26. Were they uptalkers? They were mostly uptalkers. None of them ever reads any or looks at any of the magazines they They just buy based on how much bribing that takes place. By taking them on the boat trip, for example, it was a ride around Manhattan Island, completely around stopping for a few seconds at the Statue of Liberty to watch a fireworks display. Which was also organized by Forbes, I presume? Oh yeah.

Yeah. And so then you can, with an unbelievable meal of filet and I hung out with the chefs down in Mcgalley for a while. Nice. Got a tour of the of the boats motor area whatever that's called. And it was... Engine compartment? Engine room. The engine room. That's it. Torpedo tubes? And so I ended up chatting up with a lot of these women and it was like, they're the dumbest fucks I've ever met. Oh, John. It's just like, oh yeah, yeah, man. You work for who?

I work for, yeah, I wrote for Forbes, but I also had PC magazine, you guys never have, oh, I never heard of it. It was like, it was like, I don for Forbes, but I also had PC magazine. You guys never have, oh, I never heard of it. It was like, I don't know. It's unbelievable how dumb they were. And they were all media buyers. And I find out later from other people that, oh yeah, that first thing you do

when you're getting to an advertising agency, or they hire an advertising agency, they hire these just out of college women who become the media buyers, and they are just dumb. And the career path for these women is a media buyer, OnlyFans. That's pretty much the career path. Well, for about one tenth of them, maybe. See you guys weren't really qualifying for OnlyFans. I can tell you right now.

You got it good, man, because back in the MTV days, they'd send the VJs out before it consolidated to go hang out with the owner of the local cable company. Wow, that's low rent. Oh yeah, at like the Christmas party or something. And there would always be some homely girl like, here, dance with my daughter. Oh yeah, at like the Christmas party or something. And there would always be some homely girl like, here, dance with my daughter. Oh, brother, really? Dance with my daughter.

Yeah, you were whoring yourself out. No, that was the MTV whored me out. Dime a dance. Dime a dance. Dance with the MTV boy for a dime. For a dime, I tell you. So no, instead of all that, we do value for value. And one of the ways that we accept value

and appreciate it very much is through our artists. And we want to thank Corrector Record, who did a great piece. I think he did a couple versions of this for episode 1724, which we titled Boomer Mode. This was the spying air fryer and he... Right, the most ludicrous concept in history. And a very racist piece. We're very proud of the Chinese stereotype of this air fryer. Somewhat racist.

Somewhat racist, yeah. He did two versions of that, I think. I'm looking at- Yeah, we like this because the lettering, he used kind of this phony baloney, you know, full oriental lettering. Yes. And- It was good.

Fiance spy, and a nice looking product, by the way. Yeah, it was. How come I can't find it now on the, I'm looking at noagendaartgenerator.com. Yeah it's there, it's there. It's, I thought he had two of them. He's got both of them, they're both there down. Oh yeah he did, yes he had Fry and Spy 2 which is more like a Fu Manchu vibe going on. But this one was good, it was good. And it said new from the CCP and it had the Fry and Spy, the whole thing was good. It was it and you know, that's not AI

He met he does work. He did work on that. There was AI involved. I guarantee it I was involved but he's using it as a tool as a tool. Yes That's what you do you would that best stuff is now if you look over like the bird enthusiasts won a couple over I think was just pure AI. Yeah. Yeah, and I think the one with the spy fryer was closer to pure AI. Pure AI, yeah, yeah. And I think the one with the Spy Friar was closer to pure AI as opposed to Corrector. Corrector Records is a pro. Yeah, he's a pro. Couple others of note, let me see.

I liked the Boomer Bird flu. That was good, yeah, that was okay. Yeah, that was okay. That again, all AI as a cartoon, it was cute. Yeah. I laughed at Deport Elon from Melania Trump. Thought that was cute from Comics for Blogger. Comics for Blogger had a couple of good pieces.

Did he now? Yes, he did. What else did he? Live, okay, did he do? Did he now? Anyway, thank you very much. Thank you very much, Corrector Record. We appreciate your work. Appreciate the work of all of our artists, AI or not, or hybrid, whatever you're doing,

we appreciate it. It's good for the show. It looks good when we promote the show, when we tweet and X and cry, whine on the cry and boost on the toot. And of course, it looks great in the modern podcast apps as well because they all show individual episode artwork. Thank you so much. Noagendaartgenerator.com, your time and your talent is highly appreciated.

Now, we wanna thank everybody who supported the show, $50 and above. We mention everybody and the amount they donated. We do take special time out at this part in the show $50 and above. We mention everybody and the amount they donated. We do take special time out at this part in the show to thank what we call our executive producers and associate executive producers because they are just like Hollywood. You ponied up the money just like Brad Pitt's always on the executive producer. You know what he did with Plan B Entertainment. He just ponied up some money and helped the show, helped that movie, helped the show. In this case, we can't give you much else other than the official credit, which is official

and you can use on the same place where Brad Pitt puts his credits, which is imdb.com or use it anywhere you want. You could even call yourself a podcast consultant, executive producer of the No Agenda Show on LinkedIn. You might get some jobs. So $200 and above associate executive producer credit and we read your note, $300 and above executive producer credit and we read your note and we kick it off with an old friend

who was back to round out the old year, getting ready for the new year. It is the one and only seronomous of dog patch on lower Slobovia with $2,534. He always comes in with massive amounts, big help for the show. We don't understand the meaning of the numbers, but we're pretty sure it's some kind of code,

and we're fine with that. And he's, so how many $2 bills were there, two? Yeah, I believe so. Two $2 bills. You know, there's strip clubs that have now, that now force people to get two dollar bills. So they don't give the girls ones? Yes, it's a hundred percent increase

from what the clientele was giving before. It's a great idea. Two dollar bills are great. I don't think the girls are gonna complain if you slap a bunch of ones in the garter belt. I, from what I understand from Raven, they're happy with the $2 bills. Well, I'm sure they are. Suranimus of Dogpatch and Lois Lebovia writes,

To the best producers in the universe, your support, insight, and remarkable talent continue to make this a valuable source of information and technical and artistic talent that challenges conventional M5M presentation, analysis and perspective. Let that sink in people. Read that line again. Your support, insight and remarkable talent continue, this is for the producers, not for us, this is for the producers, for people listening.

And remarkable talent continue to make this a valuable source of information and technical and artistic talent that challenges conventional M5M presentation, analysis, and perspective. That's one of the best lines he's ever written. Yeah, I believe so. Lately, I've been sort of in the weeds and sand, he says, and sand, making my views a little too micro to add to the outstanding deconstruction offered by your show. My main observation is that the new administration has a short time to implement change before the midterm election and overseas people are watching.

Well you kind of hinted at this with your discussion of what what was going on in Italy with everyone all jacked up about Trump. Yes, yeah and and there's expectations. It's probably worldwide. Yes, there's expectations. Despite the political time pressure, from street level happier days seem in the offing as changes are happening faster than many expected, even as the hourglass is already running. Wow. He's dropping breadcrumbs.

I guess, I don't know. He's our version of Q. He's telling us something. He's dropping breadcrumbs. I guess, I don't know. He's our version of Q. He's telling us something. He's telling us, from street level happier days seem in the offing as changes are happening faster than many. I think he's talking about Syria.

Something's gonna go down with Syria. I think so. I think bombs will be dropping on Syria before Trump gets in. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they did drop some bombs already with the taken out of some of the, suppose the ISIS forces and then there's now Turkey's still going after the Kurds that are there. Not letting the Kurds join the coalition.

But there's a lot of possibilities there. Thank you very much, Sironomonomous for your enormous contribution and and that's not just the the treasure It is always the the words you write are always taken with the with great respect and understanding and love. Thank you Yes, something going on Meanwhile, Commodore sir Prime in, what is this? Secan, how do you pronounce that? Secan, secanee? I would say secan, but maybe secane?

Could be secanee. Could be. Hey, Pennsylvania, secanee. I'd say secanee. It's connected in secanee. Yeah, I'm in secanee, Pennsylvania. Secanee. 1815.69, another big donation.

And the morning gentleman he writes let's end this year strong with a show number donation oh it's the show number donation 1815 oh forgot about that how about wait but that oh that the fees the fees the fees ah yes okay good to know he added the fees good to know good to know this brings me to the barren status in four donations, accounting below. If available, I request the South East Delaware County region of Pennsylvania. Colloquially referred to as the South East Delco. With this donation, I also happily earned my second doctorate. Thanks.

Thanks. Glad to get more out of the podcast than My bachelor's degree that being said my dumbass realized I never submitted Info from our original PhD certificate. Oh, no possible. Yeah, it's still possible to receive the certificate, of course You know, it doesn't really expire Of course, you know, it doesn't really expire. As long as Jay is in the back room, it's doable. Also comedian Sam Tripoli name dropped Adam and no agenda on the December 17th episode of the Adam Carolla show podcast Including included in this emails the clip I cut from in the fountain app So it's not perfect. I kept 40 seconds of the lead-up or context with 20 seconds. Yeah, blah blah blah blah

I think it's time to get to two Adams to sit down for a chat I'm behind on episode 1724. So if you were already informed and covered this I apologize for bringing it up again. Okay. I will I will forgo the 40 seconds of lead-in for context and we'll just play the 20 seconds where we get the name check. Fucking retarded kids. So wow with a needle drop that was sorry about that. So whoever's doing this is this all part of the steel dossier PP tape like oh we'll just take these drones do not black out the light and have them all fucking speculate and start infighting customers. I totally agree.

Adam Curry from a really great podcast called No Agenda. They were talking on that show that they think there's like a bill that's coming up about to expire that involves drones and militaries and all that stuff that they kind of wanted gin up support for again. So they kind of just throw these things out there and see how everybody reacts to it. Well, it's all on the table. Yes, there's no chance. Well, that was a myth. Talk about a misinterpretation of our thesis. But okay. It's a good plug.

There's little chance I'll be on the Adam Carolla show. I have a feeling he does not like me. And this is based on me being on his show 13 years ago, 14 years ago, maybe even 15 years ago, and it was clear he didn't like me. And he saw this. I can see that. It's totally understandable.

There are conflict, personality conflicts that are obvious to me. Yes. And I would, knowing, seeing him do his thing and knowing you well, I can see that being, there being a clash there. I don't see, I don't see any compatibility whatsoever. There's no compatibility. RS Bagwell is in Louisville, Kentucky.

Look at this number. One, two, three, four, dot five, six. Beautiful. That's the best. Gentlemen, all our requests is Jobs Karma, the original, no Trump. Karma continues to come through for me. Because of this, I'm able to continue my support of the best podcast in the universe.

I love it. Cheers. RS Bagwell. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. That indeed is the original. Sir Shwoo of the six Springs in Franklin, Tennessee. Oh, this is one of the Mercy Me guys again. Yeah, these guys are making good...

He plays guitar, lead guitar. Oh. Yes. You... We have... It's a good group. It's a great group. I'm sorry I missed them when they were

out here. They have toe-tapping songs. You'd like them. Toe-tappers. Yeah. Those days are over. Okay. You guys keep getting better with every show he writes and listening to 1722 reminding me of the value you guys bring three quotation or exclamation marks. He likes to use them. He uses them again over and over. Every sentence that he's written has three and in fact four in one case exclamation marks. That's what these guitar players do.

Yeah. It's actually a riff. Yes, he's riffing. That show is infuriating and hilarious at the same time. He writes Thanks for bringing sanity and joy through all these crazy times. I believe this donation of one oh three three dot three three Brings me to Baron status. I hopefully your accounting will match up with mine And I can henceforth be known as Baron shwoo of the six strings. Yes Give away by the line you can tell these guys are doing okay be known as Baron Shwoo of the Six Strings. Yes.

There's the giveaway. By the way, you can tell these guys are doing okay. I hope so. Yeah. I hope they keep doing okay. What's the name of this group again, Adam? Mercy Me. Wow.

John, it's been recorded and verified that you promised to come to the next Mercy Me show that's out your way. Don't let us down. Of course not. I'll be there. I'll be in the back with you guys. Now here's to never finding an exit strategy. Anything jingle, anything jingle he writes, anything jingle from the good reverend is always appreciated. And here's to an amazing 2025 and there's the four exclamation marks. PS! Hoping to update the tip of the day jingle soon to keep Dana Bru- Dana, Dana, Dana.

I'll have to eat you for that. There you go. Dana Brunetti happy! Okay. He did. He sent it to me and it will be featured on today's tip of the day segment. And when he says the good reverend, I'm thinking there's only one good reverend and it's not Al. That's a show enough money shot. Jesus. Look at that. That's a money shot. K.D. Conway is a money shot. That's the good reverend in my book.

Well, I think he probably wanted the other one, but okay. And there's Charles Mayfield. Charles Mayfield. Charles Mayfield from the Pharaoh.life from Neota, Tennessee in the morning gents. We gave him a bunch of plugs last show. Yeah, this is better than meeting him with advertisers. Yeah, it's a lot better.

In the morning gents, value for value for value. 10% back to the big guys for No Agendaation's Pharaoh support. Code NoAgenda saves 17.76% on all Pharaoh products. Our road to knighthood has begun. Other products suck due to climate change. Pharaoh.life. Thank you, Charles.

Appreciate it, brother. And then we come to Jonathan Young in Niles, Ohio 35093. He's got no note. I can't find a note. I'll go back and look again. 35093 so he gets a double-up Karma. He sure does. You've got Karma. Sir Scovey of the Piedmont from Charlotte, North Carolina is up next with $350.93. So this must be a coincidence or is that with fees? I wish PayPal wouldn't do the fees anymore. So we just see what the number was. This kind of screws up the numerology.

I like the fees. Please accept this donation of $333.33 plus fees. There it is. I should have read. My mom has heard me talk about no agenda so much, she now asks what the two of you are saying about given topics. What are those two guys saying? This is the old, what are the boys saying about that?

Typically there's an angle she hasn't heard yet. For example, thanks to Fox News and Newsmax, she was spun up and worried about the drones. So I clipped the segments of episodes 1720 and 1721 and gave the gift of no agenda analysis and media deconstruction. She hasn't had a chance to listen, but she's intrigued based on what I've shared of your analysis. And speaking of sharing, tis the season for George Washington's eggnog. The recipe from TooManyEggs, TooManyEggs.com, was a huge hit last holiday season, so this year I made extra, bottled it and gave it to family and friends.

We've all been getting sloshed during holiday gatherings. Woohoo! Thank you both for the premium content and working through the holidays. Cheers and Happy New Year from Sir Scovie. Oh, there's another endorsement. It's beautiful. And a plug for Noid. For toomanyeggs.com. Toomanyeggs.com. That's what it is. I can barely remember.

Sir Tyler in Anchorage, Alaska. 340,375, which is probably again 333,33. When they do these calculations of the,, doesn't seem to be consistent. No, I don't understand. I owe a special thanks to you two and Gitmo Nation for some digital, original AI thoughts and discussion. What better way to explore new tech than with skeptical gray hairs? Thanks.

Actually, skeptical gray hairs. I don't think so. With real world experience, well, there's that. Many fellow millennials are too scared to get rich slow. That's an interesting observation. That is a good observation. Too scared to get rich slow. Here's to 2025.

I look forward to getting more engaged with Noagenta Nation. I'm a sir, but I haven't been to a meetup yet, which makes me a different kind of douchebag, but none the same. Nonetheless is really the phrase. Yes, that's what I think it is. Yes. I'll make it to the local Anchorage meetup soon enough. Anchorage. Yes, Anchorage. When's the best time to go see the Northern Lights?

Spread love, not hate, and outsource everything else to TylerSystems LLC. Mate, reach out to Tyler at tylersystems.com or wait to be reminded during another Executive Producer Note. The folks that reached out first are already getting lower prices. Put a shirt on and pick up the slack producers. Cam stays off. What kind of outfit is Tyler running? I don't know, but it sounds like Zoom's involved. Happy new year. He writes sir Tyler in Alaska. I gotta get a hold of him. He New Year, he writes. Sir Tyler in Alaska. I got to get a hold of

him. He does some AI stuff. Baronet Craig Allen in Sacaton, Arizona? Is that a sacaton? Sacaton. In the morning, gents, I want to start off the new year properly. Can I get a health… Probably sacatum. Sacatum, maybe. Maybe. I don't know.

I want to start the new year off properly. Can I get a health, stability, and financial achievement karma from me and my loved ones and of course for the longevity of the greatest podcast in the universe. Have a good start of the new year says Baronette Craig Allen. That means we need to add in a service goat for you. You've got karma. Now we have an anonymous from Charlotte, North Carolina with 333 and he sent in a check and a note on a sheet of paper. This is proof, I'm just taking it around.

He sent a picture of a gas thing that you fill tanks with. What's it called? A gas pump. It's called a gas thing that you fill tanks with, what's it called? A gas pump. It's called a gas pump. A gas pump. And it has three, and the price on the premium was $3.33. So you thought that was the reason to donate. Yes, always. A note, anonymous.

A long time boner, first time donor. The $333 a gallon on the gas pump was a sign I needed to step up and donate. I have listened to your show since 2011. Thanks Jerry B for hitting me in the mouth before I went to the university. Your media deconstruction show makes, I'm sorry, show notes. I got the, you know, here's what I'm telling you. It's type written. It doesn't seem that hard. Why, why is this? I got the wrong reading glasses. Oh, well get, well, shall I read this one and you get your correct reading glasses? Because I, if the other glass are on the other desk, for some reason.

You go get them. You go get them. I have listened to your show since 2011. Thanks Jerry B for hitting me in the mouth before I went to university. Your media deconstruction and show notes have helped me make informed decisions and to craft my own viewpoints on many topics throughout my adulthood. We are creating better citizens. I credit the show with helping my wife and I navigate the madness around the pandemic which led to our child starting his life in 2020 with a level of normalcy compared to others we have met whose children were severely set back during that

time. Again, John, we are creating better citizens, better human resources. That means more to me than the donation actually. I look forward to contributing more in the new year. Happy new year to you both. I would like a Hot Pockets by Ayn Rand jingle if possible well it doesn't exist but I'll see if I can make it possible Hot Pockets by Ayn Rand there you go yeah there you go I did it I did it you did you're great Spencer since Paul Pollock in Tul, Oklahoma 25270 is our first associate executive producer

for the show. It's a long segment, people. This is the end of year. Switcheroo, please credit to the hardest working mama, this side of Tulsa, Guantanamo Bay BAE. With the new home move and a baby on the way due in June, we have plenty to be grateful for. Since there's too many things to get karma for, could you please play the shape-shifting

Jews jingle? Many Merry Christmas, John and Adam. Thanks for all the laughs and for being our national public radio in the Pollock home. And to the women who made the first Tulsa Noagenta meetup happen, my smoking hot wife, Merry Christmas and my sweet, uh, Merry Christmas, my sweet forever love Guantanamo Bay. Here we go. Roll up, roll up for the magical shape-shifting Jews.

Step right this way. Roll up, roll up for the shape-shifting Jews. Roll up. So we had a… Talking about bae, bae is a pun, but we had another discussion about the term dip at the dinner table. Oh, yes, about dipping out. So we had a bunch of, I had a back and forth, you were CC'd on most of them, with this guy trying to determine the history of this terminology. I did see some of that, yes. And he finally determined that it was disparaging.

It was a disparaging term for people who like sneak out of an event. They dip. They dip out. Yes. And so that became a point of discussion with Jay. With the millennials. The millennials, the lower and upper millennials. Jay took the side that it's not disparaging and that's bull crap, but yet her husband Brennan and JC both said, yeah, you know, it probably is disparaging. Yes. So the discussion will continue and then it will end.

You appreciate this update. I guess I could have not used it. It's a long segment. Make it longer, please. Yeah, okay. I'm sorry. I tried to make it longer. No, you interjected some content. I appreciate it. Jules Walters is in Snohomish, Washington. Roe Ducks, Associate Executive Producer, Credit for You, 222.22. Greetings, gents. I'm just another millennial who was raised on a steady diet of processed food

and high hopes that there's good people in high places Making smart decisions with my best interests at heart and boy was I wrong Turns out it's a scam. I'll take a Chinese D douchey There's no is there such a thing as a Chinese D douchey if you play it sideways, maybe how about if I do this? You've been deduced. Try that out. Jingles, A-Team, life is a scam. They're eating the dogs followed by some of that dank millennial karma.

Cheers from Jules. There's a need for a rescue mission. When the world is threatened, the world needs help. It calls on America. And that's the story. They're eating the dogs. You've got karma. Nice. Nets and Muffet Mullins in East Lake Ohio 21272

Dear John and Adam, thank you for the best podcast in the universe. Please call out Chris as a douchebag. Douchebag! Requesting a Hot Pockets Karma. And if you need a car or truck, go see Cal and his dog Spot. Smock, smock! Hot Pockets. This is Steve Allen fan. and his dog Spot. Smuck, smuck! Hot pockets. He's got karma.

Eli the Coffee Guy checks in from Bensonville, Illinois. He's always on the show, 2 to 1, 2, 29. And he says, as the season 2024 in America comes to a close, we're left with plenty of great cliff hangers. And 2025 promises to be jam packed full of action and excitement so

stay tuned and stay caffeinated visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your coffee order happy new year to all says Eli the coffee guy followed by Linda Lepatkin in Lakewood Colorado Colorado. $200. She wants jobs karma and says put your bet bet bet best foot forward in 2025 with a resume that gets results. Go to imagemakersinc.com for all your resume and job search needs. That's imagemakersinc with a K and work with Linda Lu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. Happy New Year! Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Yay! Sarah Creedle is in East Wenatchee, Washington.

ITM boys, Sarah the Web Babe here. John, thank you for your enthusiastic read of my last notes. I'd like to credit this donation to my smoking hot husband, Zach, who hit me in the mouth in July of 2020. The show has kept us sane and entertained. Attention, business-owning slaves of Gitmo Nation, are you tired of that stubborn web fat around your homepage? Is your logo too worn out to play with the kids when it gets home from work? Good news, Concurrent Studio is here to help.

If you're ready to kickstart 2025 with a fresh logo or website, our designers are standing back and standing by. Visit concurrentstudios.com today. Love you mean it. Sarah the web babe. Now that's a read. Yeah it was. You read it. Dame Toni Helfst in Fort Worth Texas. 200 bucks and she'll be our last associate executive producer. Uh, although I think sir Donald, uh, I did the math that's a, he's from a Scandinavia.

There seems to be a missing donation here. What's it? What are you missing? Well, it's, he knows, I know, we both know, I have to go look into it. It'll be on the next show, I guess. Dame Tony helps in Fort Worth. I sent this donation using Stripe instead of my usual snail mail check because episode 1724 was so darned entertaining. What were we doing in that episode? I don't know.

I was laughing so hard at the bird flu lady. Oh yes, that's what we were doing. Bird flu lady. Yeah, the bird flu lady. That tears were rolling down my face. I had to listen twice. Oh. Please switcheroo this to my son Brian Helfst.

He's almost a knight. Thanks again for the entertainment. From one boomer to another two boomers, Dame Toni Helfst. Now, I'm looking at this donation from Sir Donald of Calgary, and I know the Scandinavian dollarette is so bad. I think he donated $200 Scandinavian. Then it turns out to be 147.91. No.

Are you in on that? Cause I just want to read some of his note cause he sent a note for way too long. Well, the reason also he says, it's been a challenging time in my family this year is my dad has been sick with cancer and he will be leaving soon. So please send me and my family some F Cancer Karma.

As I'd already been looking to make a change a couple months ago, I completed the sale of my condo in Calgary and moved back home to hated rival city Edmonton to stay at my folks place to be there to help out as best I can. My older brothers have helped with organizing my dad's treatment and care." So he sends a very long note, a lot of stuff about Trudeau in there. We know it's a mess. He'll probably go soon. So here is the F Cancer and some karma for your dad and for you and your brothers.

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So here's Sheriff Grady. Does a press conference about shooting carjackers. Oh. Because he was given grief by the press who thought it was bad that some carjacker was shot. They'd rather have the carjacker, I guess, jack cars. Sheriff, you're not allowed to use deadly force for property. why do you say he would have been justified to killing him? First off, he tried a carjacking with a lady. And then he was doing a burglary of a vehicle, and he was in the string of a group of felonies at the time. When you start trying to carjack somebody, scarred a gas station, you're subject to get shot and shot a lot.

Did he have a weapon? He didn't have to have a weapon, brother. You can carjack with just pure violence and force. You don't think that's a dangerous message you're putting out? That is an absolute correct message I'm putting out to Polk County citizens. You try to break into somebody's car and steal it while they're there with it. That's called armed carjacking. The attorney would disagree with you, but you're the sheriff, so...

If you come to this county and if you use extreme violence to try to carjack somebody from their car, if you get shot, that's on you. So I thought that was good because this is like, you know, the way these sheriffs should be. But then it turns out this is not uncommon in Florida. This is the second clip from a guy in Brandon in another completely different part of the state Giving the same message Or around nine o'clock last night on Hickory hammock circle in Bradenton Deputies say surveillance video shows two men trying to get in through the back of the home

Now they say the homeowner saw it happening got his gun and fired at least three shots a bullet hit one of the men got his gun and fired at least three shots. A bullet hit one of the men. That man later died in the hospital. A canine deputy found the other suspect a few blocks away and he is in jail this noon. I praise this husband for doing what he needed to do to protect his home and protect his family. And if you're gonna be that brazen to come into my home,

once again, you should expect that you're going to be shot. Wow. Wow. Sounds like a Texan. Although you never hear Greg Abbott say that. He's not like that. The states vary. They do. In California, if you would have shot that guy, got shot.

You go to jail. You go to jail. You go to jail. You have to, they allow you to get robbed. There are house. You go to jail. You go to jail. You go to jail. They allow you to get robbed. There are two clips I need to play because they are in play. You probably heard about this. If you are in this country illegally

and you committed a crime by entering the country, you should be uncomfortable. You should look over your shoulder and you need to be worried. With the recent rise in immigration arrests, Mexican nationals have been given a new emergency resource. Eyewitness News reporter Elise Sanayave shows us how it works. The free app Mi Consul Mex now has an emergency button where users can call or text to get

an immediate response from a consulate officer. While the app is designed for Mexican nationals, the Consul General of Mexico in San Antonio says they will also respond to cases of undocumented immigrants facing deportation. Relative that is missing, when someone is apprehended and they don't have access to an attorney or to some legal help. Also when they are experiencing some abuse in the use of force, for example, of some authorities. The button launched last month. Spreading Consul Torres says the need for the consulate's

immediate assistance grew more than 100 percent since this time last year. People want to know about their legal cases. They want to receive information on their migratory status. Immigration attorney Lance Kurtright says anytime an undocumented immigrant is arrested, they have the right to notify the consulate. The app just expedites that service. And just think of it from our perspective, if you are a US citizen and you're abroad, you'd want, and you got arrested, you'd want to be able to talk to your counsel right away.

That's all they're doing here. And that's, that's an appropriate thing to do. Visit kens5.com for more information on the app and its services. So you heard about this story? Oh yeah, it's a great story. This story that I just played this clip is seven years old. It's out again.

They did this seven years ago. Well, I heard this story just the other day. I know, I know. And I went searching for a story and I'm like, wait a minute. They did this story seven years ago. Well, they're up to the same no good. And then this clip is a must listen. This explains everything you need to know about the problems in Canada.

There's a lot of problems right now. This particular problem is in Parliament. A chemistry professor is complaining about the level of DEI in grants for Canadian studies. I found this to be fascinating and at the same time makes a lot of sense why Canada should really become the 51st state. We can save you. Adam Chair, committee members, thank you for inviting me. The Academy has become an echo chamber of progressive social justice ideas, and this is reflected in the federal research granting process. A previous witness noted a

phenomenon described as group polarization. When ideological uniform groups lack dissenting voices, the group often arrives at positions far more radical than those of most individuals in the group. Lack of viewpoint diversity diminishes research excellence. As an example, the Journal of Chemical Education published a paper titled, A Special Topic Class in Chemistry on Feminism and Science as a Tool to Disrupt Disconscious Racism racism in stem This paper described the development and interrelationship between quantum mechanics Marxist materialism Afrofuturism pessimism and post-colonial nationalism and attempted to

Problematize time as a linear social construct Our government funded a research grant titled decolonizing light tracing and countering colonialism in contemporary physics Our government funded a research grant titled Decolonizing Light, Tracing and Countering Colonialism in Contemporary Physics, where the authors aim not to find new or better explanations of light or seek scientific truth, rather they plan to address the marginalization of women, black people and indigenous peoples for social equity. The journal Cogent Social Sciences published a paper titled The Conceptual Penis as a Social Construct in which the authors used post-structuralist discursive criticism and the example of climate change to

argue that the conceptual penis is better understood not as an anatomical organ but as a social construct isomorphic to performative toxic masculinity. Dude. Dude. Wow. Dude. Good stuff. The conceptual penis. I love decolonizing light.

That's beautiful. Poor Canada. We have to be two states, eastern and western. Yeah, but do we really want the French part? Probably. Well, they could keep it. Why don't you let them go free? Free them. Free the French Canadians. Free the French.

Free the French Canadians. Yeah, so you have the two states, the East and West, and then you have French Canada, which would be what's left of Canada. And it would be its own thing. That would work out, I think. Yeah. I think. Yeah. I know the West and the East don't get along so that you can't just

have one big state. So I think there's another op underway, another anti-Russia op. NATO of course is just beside themselves that Trump is going to end this war. And so we need to remember what Mark Rutter said. We need to have a war mindset, a war mindset, a war economy. And so this story has been around. There have been stories like it. This is relatively short just to set you up for the NATO guy.

NATO is stepping up Navy patrols in the Baltic Sea after Russia was accused of sabotaging a major undersea power cable. Finnish authorities are interviewing the crew of a ship suspected of cutting the cable on Christmas Day. The line carries electricity between Finland and Estonia but it now sits at the bottom of the Baltic. Alexander Stuv is Finland's president. We've got the situation under control, and we have to continue work together, vigilantly, to make sure that our critical infrastructure is not

damaged by outsiders. It's too soon to draw conclusions. Yet, why this happened, we know who did it. Investigators believe the unmarked vessel belongs to Russia. The Kremlin has declined to comment on the accusation. Since the start of Russia's war in Ukraine, several cables have been cut in the Baltic Sea. So, this was, what was this on? I can't remember what this was on.

This is a NATO spokes hole, not the Margretta, of course, it's American, I believe. And he is now warning about unconventional threats from Russia. The brutality of Russia's war in Ukraine. At France 24. Is all too clear. But Moscow is also accused of waging a far more covert campaign of attacks against NATO countries. It means while life across much of the rest of Europe, the US and Canada may seem peaceful

on the surface, Western officials warn of a growing hidden threat. Hidden threat! And they say it's not only from cyber attacks and online disinformation. What's also new is the increase in sabotage and assassination plots. Assassinations. Arson, damage to infrastructure. He heads a team updating a NATO strategy to track and deter what's known as hybrid warfare. He says such attacks linked to Russia have risen since the full-scale invasion of Ukraine. If you're only strictly in the kinetic attack, we can definitely count dozens up to 100, for sure. We're in a little bit of a boiling frog situation.

We are seeing now what would have been utterly unacceptable five years ago. But we've kind of gotten used to a little bit more and a little bit more and a little bit more, and that's very dangerous. So we want to establish a baseline now, then prevent escalation, manage it if it happens, but also work to deescalate not to where we are now, but to where we were years ago. So he's setting us up for this complete overview of all the things that Russia, maybe China, but probably Russia has been doing

that we've just been in the West in Western Europe, have just been sitting like frogs in a boiling pot who knew this hybrid warfare was taking place the whole time. Types of hostility include cyber attacks with literally thousands happening every day linked not just to Russia but also to China, Iran and North Korea. London was the victim of a major cyber hack last summer on hospital blood tests. Then there are disinformation campaigns aimed, for example, at political interference. It's what Russia is suspected of doing during a recent presidential election race in Romania. Russian spies are also accused of physical attacks such as an

attempt to assassinate the head of a major German defense company and another big concern is a spike in suspected Russian sabotage and arson targeting undersea cables, train lines and warehouses linked to European support to Ukraine. They're everywhere. It can't just be a failing of a computer system. It sounds like a plot from an old movie from the 40s. Yeah, well it's the Red Scare. That's what they're doing.

Oh, they're trying to assassinate German defense guys. Hmm. Doesn't ring really true to me. No, especially when you know they could do it if they wanted to. Yes, easily. I have a hack story from the Japan Airlines thing and it turns out I guess that Bank of Japan's been hacked too. Which didn't get much play. Japan Airlines says its computer network has come under cyber attack,

causing problems with its baggage management system. JAL says the attack began shortly before 7.30 Thursday morning. The airliner says it expects the glitch to affect both domestic and international flights, and that some flights are already delayed. and that some flights are already delayed. The company says that as of 10.30 a.m., more than 10 flights leaving Tokyo's Haneda Airport have been delayed by up to around 50 minutes. Zhao says it deeply apologizes to customers and others for the inconvenience.

We have breaking news, breaking news, breaking news at this hour. President Carter has died at the age of 100. Well, he got to 100. Let's roll out the retrospective. That'll chew up some news cycles. Everyone has it ready. Everyone's got one on the shelf. Oh yeah, of course they do.

Good to go. What can we predict will be in the, first of all, we'll have the word peanut farmer. That will definitely be in the retrospective. Lots of building homes, habitat for humanity. Yeah, lots of that. That'll be in there. How about, didn't he have a drunk brother? He won't be mentioned. But didn't he have one or was that Clinton? Yeah, yeah, Billy. Billy Carter. Billy Carter. Yeah, Billy Beer. He had his own beer label, as a matter of fact, if you remember. Billy Beer will not be mentioned in the retrospective.

That's my guess. Which is too bad. Who else should be in there? What else should be in there? It has to be the Iranian hostage crisis which got kicked out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the hostage crisis. I don't know of anything else. Well, they will also talk about Rosalind,

gotta talk about Rosalind. That was his wife, wasn't it, Rosalind? Yeah, Rosalind. Rosalind Carr, yeah. I don't know what they talked about her, what she had to do with the baby. Well, just mention her, like a brief mention. Well, they have to mention her.

And then they will show, didn mention her, like a brief mention. Well, they have to mention her. They have to be mentioned. And then they will show, didn't Bill, who visited them? No, Biden and Jill. Yeah. Yeah, they visited them, so they'll show that. All right, that's it, that's done, you're retrospective. Rest in peace, Jimmy Carter. Yeah, we did it, we did it here. Rest in peace.

I have another hacker clip that's been sitting around that you have to go look it up in the archive. Okay. I'm like, I forgot to move it over. All right. S-A-L-Y. Yes. In all caps, you should find it.

Yes, I have it. A Chinese state-backed hacking operation causing a stir on Capitol Hill. Lawmakers today investigate what one senator has called the worst telecom hack in our nation's history. This comes after the White House warns that millions of Americans' personal information could be at risk. Currently, our communities, our schools, hospitals, our libraries, our police departments, and emergency responders do not have the resources to defend themselves against foreign adversaries. The salt typhoon hacks that were discovered last month demonstrate that even the largest

corporations in the United States are vulnerable. U.S. officials last month unveiled a stealthy cyber-espionage campaign titled Salt Typhoon. The operation has reportedly compromised at least eight major telecom networks, including Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile. According to the FBI, Salt Typhoon enables Beijing to tap into Americans' phone calls and text messages. President-elect Trump, Senator JD Vance and Vice President Kamala Harris are all victims of this campaign.

Salt Typhoon has been acting for roughly two years, but the full extent of damages it has caused remain unknown till this day. Lawmakers recommended several countermeasures, including getting companies with ties to China out of American networks. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Everything China has got to go. Your air fryer, got to get them out of the networks, got to get the TikTok on wings, the drones. Everything China has got to go. Your air fryer, got to get them out of the networks,

got to get the tick tock on wings, the drones, everything China has got to go. It's got to go. So the big story that's not reported, I don't, I should have a clip, but I never got one, which is the, the fact that Huawei, which would be a great investment if it wasn't privately held in China by the government, came out with their,

and Huawei is a huge phone, cell phone maker. Yes and switches for the cell phone networks, everything. And that, but they also make phones and they make good phones. The phones are dynamite. They used to show them here in the States and they banned them. They've dropped Android and they've come up with their own operating system. Yes, yes. That's a bigger deal than people. Store's not played.

No. It's a huge deal. They announced it I think a few, like a month ago or something. No, a couple weeks ago, it was a while ago. Isn't it based on an Android derivative, like Graphene OS or something? I'm not sure where it came from.

I think so. Well, you can do it. Oh yeah. Why would you want to use Android? Screw them. No. I mean, you look at the Nokia phones, they're using, what's that other OS called?

They used to use Symbian. What happened to that? Symbian's open source. Just no one will ever do anything with it. What is that? Symbian's open source. No one will ever do anything with it. What is that? What is the flip phone Nokia operating system? It's a funky one, but it works pretty well. It's KaiOS.

There you go, KaiOS. But I think KaiOS got investment from Google, and everyone considers them to be compromised. Compromised. Compromised, I tell you. Hey, I mean, I hate to be morbid about it, but it would be kind of interesting if they claim that Jimmy Carter finally died of bird flu. It would really help the cause. They're not going to be able to pull that one off. I'm going to get to your TikTok clips in a moment. Everybody waits for it. We're

so excited. But first, this important report from the world of chess. The Norwegian chess grandmaster, Magnus Carlsen, has quit a world tournament in New York after the game's governing body said he could not carry on playing wearing jeans. He was given the opportunity to change into smarter trousers, but refused, using offensive language. Paul Moss reports. He's always been considered a maverick in the chess world. Magnus Carlsen certainly shifted the image of chess grandmasters. Often seen as introverted or geeky, he by contrast was famed for his alcohol capacity earning the nickname Dr. Drunkenstein. Mr. Carlsen also tends to dress more stylishly than his opponents and at the RapidChess tournament in New York he refused a

demand to wear smart trousers. Warned he'd be kicked out unless he changed out of jeans immediately, Magnus Carlsen's response was rather direct. They can enforce their rules, that's fine by me, and my response is then I'm out. Like, f*** you. This is not Magnus Carlsen's first controversy. He once accused an opponent of having radio-controlled objects inserted in a certain bodily orifice, signalling which move to make. That matter was eventually resolved, but Mr. Carlson's sartorial choices look set to remain

a running sore in the world of chess. I think the chess game has just gotten interesting to watch. I think my clip has got more information that's a little more interesting. Oh, you have a clip about Dr. Drunkenstein? It doesn't discuss that. It discusses the fact that nobody can beat this guy, chess champ. The world's top chess player, Magnus Carlsen, quit the World Rapid Chess Championship in New York today after he was told to change out of his jeans to abide by a dress code. The Norwegian chess grandmaster was fined $200 yesterday and given a warning by the

International Chess Federation to change the clothes or be disqualified. He told the Chess Channel, take, take, take. He was told he had to change immediately, so he quit and he says he won't appeal the decision. Quitting means the 34-year-old who became a Grandmaster at 13 won't be able to defend his title in the World Blitz Championship, where he's a seven-time champ. Wait a minute.

There's a seven time champ. Wait a minute. There's a chess channel. Seven time champ at this event. They kicked him out, obviously, for the reason he's going to win again. This is this is bull crap. It's controversy in the chess world. And he was a grand master at 13. That's amazing. Was a smart kid.

Hey, you ready? Yes. Let's do a prelim. There's a lot of things I've decided or noticed. A lot of my talk clips, I call them talk, are actually from elsewhere. Well, let me just set you up here. We need to have the jingle to get everyone ready. And I've also noticed something.

Yes. Most of the people in a lot of these clips have nose rings. It's a thing these days. People have nose rings. And I think the nose ring is subconsciously announcing to the world that you like to be led around by the nose because that's the same kind of a ring that a cow would have. Yes. And so you're actually saying to the public even though you don't even know it probably, it's subconscious, you're saying I'd like to be led around by the nose. So my opinions of things are actually somebody else's. I'm being led to say these things. I honestly believe that to be true.

That's excellent analysis. I cannot refute that. So all these clips today are people with nose rings. Let's start with, this is not from the, this doesn't say Tuck. This one is Cal, C-A-L, pronoun rapist. A convicted criminal who served time at the women's prison in Chowchilla is charged with raping fellow inmates. A Madera County judge says Tremaine Carroll must be referred to with she her pronouns. But the district attorney is pushing back because the 52-year-old Carroll is a biological

male and the decision could impact the pursuit of justice. Court records show Carol was convicted in Los Angeles County in 1993 for aggravated kidnapping for the purpose of ransom or to commit another crime. Carol is now serving time in a men's prison as this rape case moves forward. Action News reporter Brianna Willis spoke with the District Attorney about the potential impact of the pronoun ruling. A Madera County judge ruled this week 52 year old state prisoner Tremaine Carroll must be referred to with she her pronouns because Carroll identifies as a woman. But the district attorney believes the defendant is abusing the system.

This is a person who's not a woman in any sense of the word. In March, DA Sally Moreno charged Carol for rape allegedly committed while incarcerated at the Central California Women's Facility in Chowchilla. After his first cellmate became pregnant and was moved to Los Angeles, two other cellmates of his complained that he had raped them. So we have filed rape charges against this inmate. Moreno says the ruling regarding pronouns impacts her ability to prosecute the case. This is a particular issue in this case because it's confusing to the jury.

In California, rape is a crime that has to be accomplished by a man. Supervising Deputy DA Eric Dutemple says it's also unfair to the victims. It's just absolutely insane that a victim would have to get on the stand and police their pronouns and their usage when trying to recite one of the most scariest times in their lives. Carol was allowed to serve time in a women's prison despite being a biological male because

of Senate Bill 132, the Transgender Respect Agency Indignity dignity act which took effect in 2021 Wow I'm going to change my opinion of Of making Canada the 51st state. I think we should give California to Canada Yeah, well, I can see that conceptual penis. Oh man Yeah, isn't that unbelievable to Senate bill. It was makes it. So this guy, all you have to say is you're a woman. You have to put you in a woman's prison. This is unbelievably stupid, but that's California. So this is the TikTok clips.

These are, these are the more, this is, let's start with talk. This is a no guy, a guy with a nose ring yakking away. Me and my girlfriend were going to a wine castle and we sat down for our tasting and at first They were just very rude and didn't really answer our questions and we didn't really feel welcome Our server said yes. He had something to say about my uptalk clips. Holy moly really feel welcome Our server said yes, sir When I was asking some questions and I said, oh no, no, no I'm actually not a sir.

And instead of apologizing or I don't know what else you would do other than apologize, they just walked away. Did not acknowledge what I said, just walked away. We saw the server like whispering to a manager and a few minutes later the manager came over and you know, really big smile, not acknowledging at all that the misgender had happened. And I say, hey, look, the last person, they misgendered me and that really hurt. And they just walked away. And the manager said, oh, well, some people just aren't as progressive as you. And then they gave us a nice little chocolate that suggested they wanted our money, but didn't want to say sorry.

So we left and got a full refund. It's one thing to get misgendered and then get an apology, but it's another thing to get misgendered and then be told that it's okay and not to worry about it. And here's a chocolate. Again, this is narcissism at its peak in culture. It's all about me and how I feel and how I want to identify and look at my nose ring. Yeah, this guy had one too. Yeah, it's sad and these people need help.

And here we had, now this one is a carryover from the last show, I resisted playing it. This is another woman, and I believe she has a nose ring. And she has just, this is, the only way I can describe this clip is this is just loony ramblings. Good news. It doesn't matter who you voted for. If you really thought Trump was going to have your back and you're disappointed,

here's the good news, guys. Apparently, Amendment 14 Article 3 states that Trump is technically disqualified because he was found guilty of an attempted insertion. This wonderful boy attempted what insertion? An attempted an attempted insertion. Yes, he was found guilty by the way of this attempted insertion. States that Trump is technically disqualified because he was found guilty of an attempted insertion. This wonderful brilliant young woman posted it this morning and I don't remember her name but I reposted. If this is so, I know it's the holiday season but whomever has these skills, community organizers, if you could please make it super easy for all of us.

No excuse to email, call our representatives to demand an amnesty act to avoid Vice President Trump from taking office. Vice President? And Trump, listen, you've never been my favorite person. Wait a minute, did she say Vice President Trump? Yeah, that's exactly what she said to avoid Vice President Trump from taking office and Trump listen you've never been my favorite person you're you're a person you're somebody's father grandfather but I never understood why it'd be so hateful.

But, and I understand that you were afraid to go to jail, so you sold your soul. Listen, it's scary. You've been rich, a white rich man your whole life to suddenly go to jail. You sold your soul. But here's the thing, it's not a good look. You've kind of regressed, and even you deserve better.

Your father was an abusive narcissist and here you are once again being made to look small by this narcissistic abusive billionaire who is pulling your strings because he bought you your freedom and he is now president and it's it's really pathetic you deserve better well this is a fine case of what you said being yourself narcissistic why else would this looney go on tik-tok to ramble like this I just baffled by it every time I get one of these clips what is I wish, it would be even better. Have you ever felt the urge to go on one-on-one, have a camera in your car? By the way, these are always in somebody's car.

This is because that's your, that's your personal narcissist studio. It's your little studio. And have you ever found the urge just to go on and ramble about something like, you know, your personal gripe about the day or so. I mean, it's just beyond me. I just completely, it's baffling. That's why I get these clips, because I just like, wow, what happened here? I'm still stuck on attempted insertion, to be honest. Insertion. Yeah, he's found guilty of attempted. Imagine all the people who could do that.

Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. Guilty. You were going to say something? He was found guilty of attempted. Attempted insertion. That's right. I mean, that goes perfectly with the end of show mix about the erection that he,

that he did. Yeah, that guy did the end of show mix. There's an erection clip where they got so I didn't half of these. I never heard. I thought I heard most of them. The January 6 erection. Yes. We are here to thank the rest of our producers. $50 and above is still on the way We do have the end of show mix

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Did you run out there at five in the morning when they came up to pick up the garbage? How did you do this? Well, as you know, we have a private garbage pickup because we are unincorporated. And so we have our dudes from Gillespie County Waste Management. And I ran out there at 8.45 was when they come and pick it up and he got out of his truck and I complimented his big truck.

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We missed a title change on show 1721. Kim donated to upgrade her title to Arch Duchess it was missed in the title change segment and of course she wonders if she can now have the title of Black Arch Duchess and I think she can. No! It's been approved here on my spreadsheet. It wasn't approved by the committee. Well Kim Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers is now Arch Duchess Kim Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers. Take it up with the committee, Kim.

Commodore Sir Prime becomes Commodore Sir Prime Baron of Southeast Delaware County, region of Pennsylvania. And Sir Schwoo of the Six Strings becomes Baron Schwoo of the Six Strings. Thank you all very much for supporting the Noagenda Show in the amount of $1,000 or more. Yes? I will mention this. Yes? We have long ago determined that the only thing that you can be a black knight, because it's like a thing, a black knight,

but a black baron, a black dut, duke, a black this, a black that, unless I can be talked out of it, I don't think it's appropriate. Well, I think you should call HR and have HR talk to Jay, because she put Black Archduchess in my prep. Yeah, I realize that that's what she did, but she did it on her own accord. We can't have that. Have HR give her a talking to.

She's gone rogue. Now we have a couple of Commodores, which is very nice to see. We congratulate the following Commodores. Sir Prime, I realize we've got the wrong thing here. Hold on a second. Are those Commodores or are those doctors of education? There's doctors of education. I made a mistake.

Let me try that again. No one will know the difference when I edit it in post. And now we have a couple of doctors, brand new doctorates of education, and we congratulate Commodore Sir Prime on his doctor of education in climate change studies, along with R.S. Bagwell and Mike Scheutcher, better known as Baron Shwoo of the Sixth Rings.

Congratulations, brand new doctors of education sorry bird flu got the bird flu got me the bird flu got me oh yeah how do you feel you were sick oh last show we both feel pretty bad I mean well you sounded good cuz I you sound as if you sounded sick on the show like I think once John I have been near death I I have been without teeth, I have been divorced twice, and you've never heard about it on the show. That's just who I am, bro.

No, there was one time you did sound sick on the show. Oh, okay. No, a little jet lag, but actually, we took the ivermectin and we sailed through it. And I recommend everybody, we take ivermectin twice a week. The drop of a hat apparently. Well, we take it twice a week as a prophylactic and I think it helped.

Cause I know who I got this from. I know who I got this thing from. And now Christina has it, but we did okay. I mean, we had the jet lag, we're flying around Europe, so we of course are super spreaders. But in general, we take it on Thursdays and Sundays, show days just in case. For my weight and height, I take 20 milligrams of ivermectin two times a week and took an extra six milligrams when it hit me, which is a week ago, and got through pretty good. I mean, yeah, I just still some lingering cough,

but that's just what bird flu does. You know, it's okay. So that is not medical advice, is just telling you what I do. No, it's not medical advice, and you should get tested. Yeah. No one checked out. Yo.

Get tested everybody! Yeah, big party going down on Monday. New Year's Eve, Eve, Eve. I like pizza Steve. That is the meetup on December 30th. That's three. New Year's Eve is Tuesday. New Year's Eve, Eve.

New Year's Eve, Eve. Oh, New Year's Eve, Eve. Yeah, we did this last show. Oh yeah, you did this. Like every time you do an Eve, Eve, yeah. And there's Eve, Eve, Eve. New Year's Eve Eve. Oh, New Year's Eve Eve. Yeah, we did this last show. Oh yeah, you did this. Like everything, so often we do an Eve Eve. And there's Eve Eve Eve. Yeah, that's Bald Man Brewing in Eagan, Minnesota. And that's one of our Southwest pilots who are organizing that.

Go and say hi. Then on Thursday, our next show day, which is January 2nd, Northern Wake Publical Slave Gathering, 6 o'clock at Saints and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina. We have many more meetups well into the new year. In fact, I even see Longview, Texas on the list for June 29th. Some of these things are planned well in advance. Some of them pop up later on.

And a reminder, what was the one we needed to promote? We have Colorado Springs on January 4th, Bronard Park, California, January 4th, Yukon, Oklahoma on the 4th, and Baton Rouge, Louisiana on the 4th, Brunard Park, California, January 4th, Yukon, Oklahoma on the 4th, and Baton Rouge, Louisiana on the 4th. And of course, we all need to remember that there is a meeting in Albany, California, meetup on February 1st, and John will be there, and kids will be running around.

That's the kind of meetups we like to run over. No, that was at the mall, no kids. Oh, no kids. Keep your kids out of here. If you'd like to learn more about the meetups and I recommend you go to at least one you can find information at noagendameetups.com it is a great website sir Daniel manages that for us part of our time talents and treasure we appreciate that very much Mimi always sends me the list we appreciate that. Go to noagendameetups.com, find one near you.

If you can't find one, start one yourself. It's easy and always a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you want be, triggered or held to blame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party.

Well good news, good news, you have four ISOs, that's good news. Because I don't have any. I do have one that someone sent me which is funny but it's too long, I just thought it was interesting and I'll play it. So guys, time to teleport you to the ISO zone. You can just use it for a jingle for the ISO zone. I had no idea that was out there. So luckily you have four to choose from.

So I'm very happy about that. Okay, let's start with Christmas. Christmas was a little different. Where do you get these? Where do you get these from? That one, it came from an NPR discussion from some up talking characters and this woman says Christmas is a little different,

at least in my house, a little older than she goes and blah, blah, blah. That was pretty good, it's pretty good. Next. Then we have, try this one. Try this is, I think podcast, do a podcast. I could not have done better than that podcast. Not bad. I like it.

I like it. Then we have So Much. Thank you so much. It's my pleasure. No, that's too muddy. It is muddy. Rejected. Rejected. Rejected, reject it, reject it.

And then great shows. That was a year of great shows, boys. Well, that's not hard. I mean, that's like written for us. Exactly. That was a year of great shows, boys. That is fantastic. Where'd you get that from?

I don't remember. Okay, good work. And now, ladies and gentlemen, time for John Cena Vorak's Tip of the Day. That by the way is Baron Sir Shu who did that jingle for us. That's pretty good. Yeah. Sir Shu knows what he for us. That's pretty good. Yeah Sir Shu knows what he's doing. He's a musician

Yeah, I wish you know, we have a lot of musicians who listen to the show and not many of them contribute I mean they contribute money some of them, but they don't contribute. Well, Sir Shu is a very successful musician Most musicians are pretty much value for value up shit creek without a pow. Well, we have some big shots too. Yeah. Well, these guys are big shots. Okay. So, uh, this was kind of discussing after the show, I think last time. Oh, I'm sorry.

Can I just say one thing before I forget? I want to thank everybody for sending me, and I put the links in the show notes, I want to thank everybody for sending me, and I put the links in the show notes, links to baggage scales, which apparently Amazon now has, even though I looked for them a while back. There's the digital luggage scale gift for traveler suitcase handheld weight scale, and the Clow Mini weight 300, industrial crane scale, digital hanging scale, blue, which is a little more expensive, but you can also hang your meat on it.

Well, I think that qualifies as a tip. Yes, it's a tip, it's a tip. So links in the show notes. So we talked about this a little bit, and you said it should be tip of the day. And I'm going to make it tip of the day, this today, which is the use of when you're buying wine, particularly Bordeaux, by the way, but when you're buying wine, there's a lot of these wines with little stickers on them that say, Oh, 91, 92 points or the, or even better better, is a small sticker that says Macon usually,

which is from a big tasting, the French do, and the stickers are either gold, silver, or bronze colored, and these stickers are all meaningful, and they're all accurate examples of why you should maybe choose these wines. If you see, you know, they hit the stickers, all the wine operations, wine enthusiasts, and all these other guys, they have these stickers

and they make them available to the wineries. And so if the wine gets a high score and some tasting, they get to put the sticker on. And I would say that they're generally accurate. So if you see a wine with a sticker on it. It's not just marketing is what you're saying. Yes, I'm saying they're worth paying attention to. They're not just a bogus sticker that anyone could put on, you know, like instant bestseller, for example. Oh, one of those. It's not like one of those stickers. And so it's a real sticker. And the ones you, if you can see the ones that are from French

sources including the Macon one, which don't put point totals, they put either the gold, silver or bronze sticker and you stick to the gold ones and kind of skip over the silver and bronze ones. Generally, I'd say the gold ones are more accurate in terms of the wine being really good. Or if the sticker says 91 points, and it should be over 90 nowadays because of what I call bracket creep. These guys have been jacking up the ratings on wines that really used to be, I'd say,

15 years ago, today's 90 point wine would have been an 88. It's just a common thing because if you give the score 90, you give the wine 91 points, you're probably getting closer to being a good wine. So I would stay with 91 as the minimum. But they're accurate and people should pay attention to them. I always thought it was the calorie content of the wine, but what can I say? There it is, ladies and gentlemen, go to knowagendafun.com or tipoftheday.net

for John's Tip of the Day. And that concludes our year of broadcasts. Another fine year it was, Dr. Dvorak. Yes, it was good. It was a good year, a lot happened, and we look forward to another year of media deconstruction with you, our producers, who really, really make a lot of it happen. And we really do appreciate that. We have end of show mixes by Dee's Laughs and we have the Jones Brothers Syndicate with a twofer. We've got Steve Jones with the end of show

mix and Neil Jones with an end of show mix. Could it get any better? Up next on the No Agenda stream or your modern podcast app or trollroom.io. Stay tuned for Larry's Christmas Ghost. That is that Larry show, the deepest voice in podcasting. Good show, good guy, solid man. Love to have him coming up after our podcast. And I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. Remember us at NoAgendaDonations.com. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak. And we say once again, Happy New Year everybody.

Have a good time watching that ball drop. Until Thursday. Adios, mofos, a hooey hooey, and such. We're living in a clown show. I laugh, like you're driving through, everything smells like weed. It's just nothing but pot shops and cash advanced places. If you gotta drive through a couple of houses,

don't forget protesters on the way. Some days it feels like I can never leave. Toronto never say the second T. I was hoping there were protesters on the way. As the citizens ignore the blight They won't boycott the companies they don't like but they moan and groan Now I'm good, I make the list smaller than ever Rappin' bout the news and leaving clues, thinkin' that I'm clever Workin' three jobs like I live in color, headly crooks Brainwashing Ms. Notting Butler but more like Smelly Another Tim Hortons being built, just look around I'm not countin' but we are all Brampton

Now, TTC, the Metrolinx is things. You're the father who my faith is in. I never worry about a jinx. Yeah. TTC, the Metrolinx, I mean it's things. Things that have never happened. Let's talk about the fact that President Trump incited an erection. Maybe that too. You can talk about that too, I guess. Maybe we should talk about that too. While the events of the erection, excuse me, excuse me. After 40 years, I can't believe I did that on TV.

Inciting or assisting in an erection. Donald John Trump incited the erection. Does the President of the United States believe that former President Trump incited an erection? Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, who has been impeached for inciting the erection? He did incite an erection on the Capitol. If I have to embrace someone just inciting an erection? He worked to incite an erection. There is no comparison to inciting an erection. Into inciting an erection there is no comparison to inciting an erection into inciting an erection

we feel the president has incited an erection are we just inciting an erection? we're inciting that deadly erection no way! and remember that we just had this bird flu scare which is not over but oh it wasn't in the ground beef the USDA says the negative results tonight

confirm the meat supply is safe. Thank God, it might be in the milk, but it's in the ground beef. This morning, the FDA insists the nation's milk supply is safe. But when people, you know, people listen very poorly to the news and they hear, breaking, breaking, breaking, ground beef,

ah, ah, bird flu. None of the first known cases of a human getting bird flu from a mammal in the U.S. I guarantee you that people are like, well, maybe we should just have some chicken tonight. You cannot get this strain of bird flu from eating poultry. Yeah, man, I'm not so sure I want to have some grits. I heard-

LORON CHICKEN! Bird flu has halted production at the nation's largest producer of fresh eggs. I heard something about ground beef. I don't like it and they're all jumping in on it. Anytime there are reports of bottle-nosed dolphin in Florida has died from bird flu, possibly the first dolphin in the U.S. to die of the virus. Thank you, science. Thank you, science.

We have science. I know you love science. Charlotte Green is people. It's alive. It's alive. Green is people! It's alive! It's alive! It's alive! It's alive! Thank you! The Best Podcast in the universe! Mopo.

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