No Agenda - 1737 - "Wrong Puberty"

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Tell you, Mr. Producer. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, February 9, 2025. This is your award-winning KidBow Nation Media Assassination, episode 1737. This is No Agenda. We're doubling down and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Can't for Northern Silicon Valley where it's Super Bowl Sunday I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning That's right! Sportsball! Sportsball everybody everybody's doing sports everyone is taking their donations and is betting on the game that's what happened I'll tell you this it it's choking the network. So Google TV is just, so they have a 4K feed for that. I think this is maybe the first time we've seen 4K for the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Is this, you mean YouTube TV? I'm sorry, yeah, YouTube, yeah. Yeah. Right. Yes, that's great. Because there is actually a Google TV, which is something else. Oh, yeah. It's just a bunch of videos. Anyway, the YouTube TV, which is a substitute for cable,
Starting point is 00:01:12 is choking in its own vomit. And what are you watching? Are you are you watching Fox or what are you watching? Well, it's on Fox. The Super Bowl is on Fox. Yeah. And so they have a 4K feed. Yeah Super Bowl is on Fox. Yeah. And so they have a 4K feed plus the regular feed. Yeah. And the 4K feed won't load. It's just choking.
Starting point is 00:01:31 And it gives you a message. It's like, Oh, oh, something went wrong. Try again. Oh. And it actually says, oh, oh, and you, h, o, u, uh, oh. Uh, oh. I'm watching now. It's okay. I don't have 4K, but I have the regular feed. Yeah, well the 4K is just borked.
Starting point is 00:01:49 And you pay extra for that? You pay extra for a borked feed, but you can just tell. Are you an upset consumer? Is that what I'm hearing here? You can tell that this is, it's choking the network. Comcast is probably,
Starting point is 00:02:03 everything is just being choked out by the Super Bowl interest I'm sure at the beginning of the game would be really bad Yeah, and it'll fade because the game you know we'll talk about the game later and make our predictions yes, and it will should I doubt if it's gonna be one of those close games, but it could be and So people who will bail out and then'll get the fetal come through. This whole streaming idea for TV is a bad idea. They'll get it. I mean, hmm. Because I can turn on the, I can flip over to the antenna.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Yeah. Quality is just as good, if not better. I have an antenna and it works just fine I tell you. It does and it doesn't put in you yourself as the one who went on about in some posts some years back about how well the problem with you know the internet is that everything's one-to-one. Yeah for every person you add to your audience it costs you more money that was that's always been the problem but add to your audience, it costs you more money. That's always been the problem. But the whole architecture of Netflix and Amazon and Google is that they have servers right there sitting connected directly to your connection if it's all done right. But even that may be insufficient.
Starting point is 00:03:22 It may be insufficient if you want to change the... Like how many people... Yes, we do... Netflix has a server on the server. Sure, a server on the server. And so they have these little outlets. Of course, if you want to watch something obscure, it has to go to the main office.
Starting point is 00:03:38 It's not everything is on there. Bring back the M-Bone, people. The whole thing is a joke. Remember the M-Bone? Yeah, I remember the M-Bone people! The whole thing is a joke. Remember the M-Bone? Yeah, I remember the M-Bone. It was another failed attempt. Well, because nobody had the gear for the M-Bone. But the M-Bone was a good idea at the time. It just went nowhere.
Starting point is 00:03:59 You needed a Spark Workstation. Yeah, it was the Spark. I can't do it with Windows 11. I can't get on the M-Bone. Doesn't work. There's probably five people out there who remember the M-Bone. So streaming works when the demand is within millions, millions of people.
Starting point is 00:04:21 But if you got to 100 million people, or once you go to 4K where you have to, you know, pretty much multiplies everything by a factor of five in terms of bandwidth necessary, well, it changes the way things, the model doesn't work. That's because they're putting all their CapEx expenditure into AI. They should be putting the money into streaming because that's a real
Starting point is 00:04:45 I mean I try not to pay any money to anybody but I pay for YouTube TV. What is it up to now 70 bucks a month? Oh it keeps going up because it costs too much money to do it. They're probably losing money well they're probably not losing money those guys now but the point is if you can who is the initiator of large scale systems for search, for example, and have networking capabilities that most people can only dream of, can't manage the 4K stream over a Comcast 800 megabit line. I remember when we had rabbit ears and life was good. Well, actually rabbit ears work quite well with high definition digital television. You know, I'm looking at my feed right now and it's very...
Starting point is 00:05:37 I knew this would happen. No, but it's very, well, no, it's very jarring to see the football field in the background with Speaker of the House Mike Johnson in the foreground. It's like my brain can't wrap around it. It's like, what is he doing there on the 50 yard line? Anyway, the reason why I have it on is because president Trump will be doubling down in his pregame interview, doubling down on his mandate. Doubling down on what?
Starting point is 00:06:06 On his mandate to shutter these agencies. Oh well that's... I guess they've seen the truth. I don't know how he can double down when he's already going at full tilt. Allow me to get you into your clips with a super clip, a mini super clip of Film Magnet 2. Before you do that, since you just teased that, what series of clips? I have about four.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Well, when I play the supercut, you'll know exactly what to play and I'm going to let you start it off. Stand by. Thanks for joining us. We begin tonight with Musk and Big Balls. Big Balls. Big Balls. Big Balls who work for Elon Musk's so-called Department of Government Efficiency, DOGE,
Starting point is 00:06:43 in the one case of the Big Balls kid, a literal teenager. Big balls online. Big balls here. That kid he's talking about. A 19-year-old that goes by the username Big Balls. So that would be one way that we could refer to him. Beyond computer wizards. Wizards, the aforementioned Big Balls. Because who among us doesn't feel better about Big Balls. Big Balls. Big Balls in charge of American air traffic control.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I love the times we are in right now. Well, I think you started, you managed to, I don't know how you did it, but you started the show off with the lowest common denominator juvenile material you could. But it's necessary because everyone loves saying big balls. Everyone loves it. It's hilarious. saying big balls. Everyone loves it. It's hilarious. Yeah, it's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Well, I only have the one clip which is mocking the whole thing. I do have the intro clip which is this is the one that was in that mix which is big ball CNN. This is a woman on CNN. She I believe she's the one who started it off where once she said it on CNN, everybody could say it. Yes. So this is a 19 year old high school graduate who has used the unfortunate nickname, big balls online. Yeah. You know, that's the lady from Wired. They're the ones that have done this outstanding reporting, John,
Starting point is 00:07:59 this just fabulous reporting. They've done all the reporting on the, on the Doge team, the big balls, the big balls. I just love that the most tepid and demure person who pronounces big balls is Anderson Cooper of all people. Big balls. Everyone else is like, big balls. I get to say big balls on television. And Anderson Cooper's like, big balls. Yeah, well, this is an embarrassment to all television. So a guy comes on, one of the many, and I wish we could get this down, the Trump impersonators. Yeah, this guy is good. I'm glad you got this one.
Starting point is 00:08:37 He's pretty good. And here's his little take on the whole big, this is a fake Trump doing Trump, and his take on the big balls and there's some good gags in here. This is your favorite president and I'm very sorry to see big balls leaving Dush. Big balls did tremendous work. Americans voted for big balls. They voted for me and they call me biggest balls. You know what I'm talking about. Fake news CNN is very unhappy with the name big balls. They wouldn't know big balls if it hit unhappy with the name Big Balls. They wouldn't know Big Balls if it hit them in the face, except Anderson Cooper. You know what I'm talking about. But
Starting point is 00:09:11 I want to recognize some of the other fantastic people over at Doge. Pat McCrutch. Pat is doing a wonderful job. I've known him for a long time. Phil McCracken, Phil is lighting it up, doing wonderful work. Holden McGrine, Holden McGrine is really carrying his weight, that much I can tell you. And Michael Hunt, we've known Mike for a long time. He goes by Mike and we've known him for a long time. But Americans voted overwhelmingly for big balls, you know that that when they elected me. And while big balls may not be working at Doge anymore, biggest balls is still working as your president. We are making America ballsy again, and we are making America great again.
Starting point is 00:09:57 That will continue, that's not gonna stop. We will never give up, we will never surrender, we will never back down, and we will make America great again, believe me. It's kind of sad when people in the troll room are arguing over whether this is AI or not. I mean, it's sad because this is one of the best impersonator voice.
Starting point is 00:10:17 It's obvious that you can tell it's not the president, but he does a great job. Everything that he does in there is just good. Yeah. It's not AI. Yeah, there's about five guys who are doing this and they're all, when you get the cadence right, it's pretty funny. Yeah. Um, maybe just before you get into, you want to do dough stuff, which I think that's where you'd want to start, right?
Starting point is 00:10:40 That'd be fine with me. Yeah. I, you know, as predicted. With his low donations, like you said, you don't care to start anywhere. I, uh, my hate listen did not disappoint. Yes. I, you know, I saw this, you're talking about the, by the way, I, I thought that, you know, I don't watch these guys.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I don't watch them. I only listen to them. I didn't even know that we're doing video. Well, I always thought they did video in a settee, where they were seated. No, no, because they're just got the cans on her ears. No, but they always start this. We're talking about the Pivot podcast
Starting point is 00:11:18 with Prof G and Kara Swisher. No, they always start off talking about where they are. And Prof G is like, I'm in London today, my house here. I'm in Dubai. I'm visiting for the soccer match. And Kara's like, I'm in DC. Oh no, we're renovating the house in DC. I'm in San Francisco. I have a secret project. I'm here in Los Angeles. They are the biggest, the elitist. Really? Oh, always.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Wow. I'm in New York. Thank you, Scott, for letting me use your apartment in New York. They're always talking about where they are and what house they're in now. They apparently each have at least two or three. Oh, I'm in Miami. Galloway has homes in Miami. Oh, it's everywhere. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Oh, it's amazing. So there was a clip. I know which clip you're gonna play, but there was another clip that somebody posted in one of the threads where Galloway is bragging about how what a smart move it was to bet $385,000. Oh yeah, yeah. I think I had that clip along and we didn't play it. Yeah, that's at the election.
Starting point is 00:12:22 He said, you know, this is a, know, I'm a thing a million dollars payout No, no, but he's he was saying cuz you know, he's an investor very successful investor very successful Extremely accessible and yeah successful investor throwing $385,000 on a on a presidential bid bet first Kamala Harris's Okay, that's smart the clip that is more interesting, I don't have that one either, is where he says you know okay so I lost $400,000 for me that's just a bad hour or so but you know it doesn't really move the needle for me. This is how these people talk they're amazing. They're amazing. All right let's just play this where they become completely unhinged
Starting point is 00:13:02 over Doge. And the question, a lot of them are like, what do we do? They're literally asking me, what do we do to stop him? I was like... I'm sorry, this is the one I want to play. I want to know who are these... But wait, wait. What?
Starting point is 00:13:16 Are you going to play that other one still, the one where she says, people are asking me... Yes, I'll play that in a... Because I'm the great expert on Musk. Well, you might as well play it now The question is a lot of them are like, what do we do? They're literally asking me. What do we do to stop him? Oh, yeah people are oh by the way Galloway. Oh, yeah, and I had at least five senators call me
Starting point is 00:13:37 Oh, yeah, no, they are they are the creme de la creme of the elites people are unbelievable. If I have a problem, who are you going to call? Kara Swisher. I was like, I just don't. I was like, you don't. You actually don't have the means to do so because these poor people are in these agencies and when these idiots come in, these children, these arrogant little pricks come in and say, we're going to call the federal marshals or the president has ordered you to step aside. Hold on, stop it. How does she know they're arrogant little pricks? Has she met even one of them?
Starting point is 00:14:12 Oh, they work with Elon. How could they not be? How do you call somebody arrogant little prick when you've never met them? I think it's, I think that they can sue. Yeah, we have big balls. We have big balls. You can't just say we're little pricks. No, no, no. The president has ordered you to step aside. They kind of have to. You have to be resistant and be walked out by security.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And then security doesn't know which one to listen to, right? Right? Right? I'd like to see all. Now, this is my favorite because he, I listened to the whole podcast and at certain point is like, I advise all these people who, cause they don't just call character, they call Prof. G, they're very successful Prof.
Starting point is 00:14:53 G. And he said, you need to go down there and you need to get arrested. You need to get arrested to make the point. Whatever it is, 48 or 49 US senators and any Republicans that want to join. I'd like to see a couple hundred members of Congress Go to the fucking building where this is and demand to go in and Please stop this and let them what? What kind of lies guys in this cussing?
Starting point is 00:15:16 It's just oh the whole podcast is full of cussing because they don't have any other words Go to the fucking building where us is and demand to go in and physically stop this and let them arrest you let them arrest you yes anyway let's go to the uh... the profit of only a r the profit g meltdown i want to know who are these these young highly intelligent highly motivated is elit's following him into these balance and shutting off payments to schools and head starts. I want to know their names.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Well, you know, the local officials are trying to make that official. The newly installed Trump are threatening people for naming their names, just so you know. Go ahead. Oh yeah, but they can unmask CIA officers who put their lives in harm's way to try and keep our Americans safe. I want to know who their names are and I want to see Democratic governors saying, I'm going to do everything I can in my power to use the full faith and to the letter of the law to put you folks in prison. I think what you're
Starting point is 00:16:14 doing is trespassing. I think this is a coup. And be clear, just because the new insurrectionist, who was elected, you know, I don't believe this is legal and I'm going to hold the people accountable who are trespassing and part of a coup accountable. To just sit back and say this is horrible and this is unlawful, we need to go gangster here and say, look. Hey, man, I'm white. We're going to go gangsta. This is horrible and this is unlawful.
Starting point is 00:16:49 We need to go gangster here and say, look, we are not negotiating around this stuff. This is illegal. This is a coup. This is the unlawful seizure of power. We are not going to engage in these bullshit, ridiculous arguments over, you know, Gaza and Greenland. We are going to hold the people accountable. Here are their names, here are their faces, and we have contacted the local authorities in where these kids live, these young adults, and we are going to hold them accountable.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, we're going to string them up. String them up, those kids. Lynch mob, just a Lynch mob mentality, exactly. It's great. It's great. And I think that she should return her Dvorak School of Broadcasting certificate. She. I'll never make mention of again.
Starting point is 00:17:41 No one you could have mentored could become this unhinged on air ever. Just doesn't happen. I believe that's correct. She got mentored as she says herself by Walt Mossberg. Yeah, yeah, we all know the truth. She did show up on the show though, so there you go. Yeah, yeah, she did.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I gave her her break, you can condemn me for that. I'm not condemning you, I am grateful. Think about it, I mean, there you go, it's 15 minutes of the, yes, it's material. Yeah, material. It's great. You need to indoctrinate more of these people. It's good work. Good work. All right, Doge Clips, JCD, go. You and Mark Levin, cut three. Clip ten. Tell you Mr. Producer. Yeah, exactly. Well, let's go over the distraught clips.
Starting point is 00:18:32 These are from NPR and this is a series of how distraught and ruined lives are becoming because of... And listen carefully to these clips because they make no mention NPR, and I have some complaints about NPR as usual later. Why not? They make no mention of the waste, fraud and abuse. In fact, they claim there's none because everything is USAID. It's great. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Go! Clip one. Elon Musk continues to send shock waves through the federal government. His cost cutting team, the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, has been tearing through the government since inauguration day. But now DOGE has been hit with multiple lawsuits and a member of the team even stepped down after a series of racist social media posts surfaced. What do we actually know about this newly created
Starting point is 00:19:25 entity that has so much power? What are they doing? Who is working there? Well, for help understanding some of this, we're joined now by NPR's Shannon Bond, who has been following all things DOGE. Hi Shannon. Hi Elsa. Okay, so just lay out what we know so far about what DOGE is doing. Yeah, so our reporting shows this effort appears to be focusing on technology and personnel at federal agencies. So staffers connected to DOGE are gaining access to sensitive systems and information on government payments and about employees. And Elon Musk, who's leading the effort, has been cheering on their work on his platform X. He's taken credit for efforts to dismantle the US Agency for International Development, which has funded everything from relief efforts in Ukraine to secret schools for girls in Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:20:14 By the way, pay attention to people who say USAID versus USAID, because that's one of those... Yeah, it's a little tricky it was like Federal Reserve you know it's like but you listen to the end go play the end again because she emphasizes I don't even know if these are real programs or not but the she emphasized there's no mention of any of the you know Guatemalan sex change operations or the, or promoting gay, the gay agenda in Uganda, which has a death penalty or any of the other kinds of screwball things these guys do.
Starting point is 00:20:54 She just passes it off as some great operation that is the best. He's taken credit for efforts to dismantle the US Agency for International Development, which has funded everything from relief efforts in Ukraine to secret schools for girls in Afghanistan. Yeah. Okay. Fabulous. Yes. Secret schools for girls in Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:21:15 You need some. You need some. You need some. Yeah. One word. Musk has also said that Doge is shutting down what he calls, quote, illegal payments from the Department of Health and Human Services to nonprofit groups.
Starting point is 00:21:27 But look, even as he is talking about all this stuff, there are still a lot of questions about the scope of what Doge is doing and whether they actually have the authority to do it. Deborah Perlstein is a constitutional scholar at Princeton University. One of the reasons we can't tell what's going on and what power they have is because they haven't really made what they're doing public at all. And that also includes who it is who's doing this. There's a laundry list of stuff they're doing.
Starting point is 00:21:56 The reasons we can't tell what's going on and what power they have is because they haven't really made what they're doing public at all. And that also includes who it is who's doing this work. Exactly. So what do we know about the people working for Doge? Like who are they? Right. So there is a Doge team in the White House that Musk is leading, but a lot of this stuff
Starting point is 00:22:17 is actually happening in the agencies. There are staffers connected to Doge fanning out across the federal government. So for example, we have a number of Musk connected figures who've been named to senior roles. That includes Tom Krause. He's a tech CEO who just today was put in charge of the Treasury Department system that processes trillions of dollars in payments every year. Now what's notable here, Elsa, is that this week in a legal challenge around this arrangement, the government said that Krause
Starting point is 00:22:45 has read-only access to this payment system. But then we have Musk posting publicly about shutting off payments. And so now his ally is running that system. There are other folks who've worked at Musk's companies, including Tesla and XAI, who are in senior positions at the Office of Personnel Management and the General Services Administration. And of course, there's also this group of young male software engineers, right, that have gotten a lot of attention. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Oh, yeah, including the staffer who resigned just yesterday, right? What was his story? Okay. I just need to say something, just interject a little bit here. The ageism is really, it's almost, I mean, in a way I understand it, but it's kind of baffling because whenever it comes to the greatest technology in your iPhone, everybody's always happy about, oh, these are the smartest kids in the world. They're young, you know, they're making my camera better, you know, they're making everything faster. It's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:23:40 What they used to call them? Ninjas, code ninjas. They're the best, they're the greatest. Now it's like, what do these kids know about the treasury system? Oh my, oh my, oh my. You can't let, you need, and by the way, they fired all the cobalt guys.
Starting point is 00:23:59 If you can still get a cobalt guy. This is, I'll interject it, I'll bring this up, because I was talking to JC about this. It was in that industry. And he says that one of the things that happened with the USAID and it looks like the treasury too. And he predicted something, which I'll mention, which is that exactly what you said, I'm glad you said it, which is that the cobalt, the graybeards as they're
Starting point is 00:24:24 called, all retired and they're the ones who put all these systems together that work. Their systems do work, but they're old. It just works. They're old and according to the gossip mill, is when the graybeards quit, they told all the kids that are running things, because the kids, they know JavaScript, they can all the kids that are running things because the kids, though, they know JavaScript and can do C plus plus.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Rust. I need rust. He said, they said to the kids, don't touch anything. And so these old cobalt systems are in place. And so, so, so, but they're going to have to upgrade at some point. And he's, he says that, and that's the reason that you, we've heard stories about, oh, they won't let him in. They won't let him look at anything. They won't let him do this or let him do that
Starting point is 00:25:12 because they don't know anything that's going on, literally. So they can't help the Doge guys. Now he says that they're going to try to upgrade these systems and they're all going to get, because it's going to be new code, systems and they're all going to get, because it's going to be new code, new everything, is all going to get borked. And he's predicted. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I'm not going to argue that. Of course not, because you know, you're... Yeah, I know. Yeah, you know. I used to work for, IBM was the AS400 division was my client to think new ideas. I know. I know. And they're like, we can't put a web server on our boxes. We can't have a website unless it runs on AS400. Okay,
Starting point is 00:25:53 good luck. So they have, he believes the following is going to, this is a scenario, it's a predictive scenario that I liked. They're going to try to fix systems, including the IRS filing system, which apparently stopped working. And since it's an old cobalt system, they, you know, basically they can't, they have to, they just, there's, he pointed out that AI coding, which is all these new kids are doing, they use AI to do coding, doesn't code COBOL because there's not enough material to feed the language model. So AI can't do COBOL. And so they're going to have to abandon COBOL and go to these new systems.
Starting point is 00:26:41 He predicts it's going to not work right away. There's not, there's going to be a such a big screw up at the IRS. It's going to go as follows. You don't have to file. That's all right because president Trump's going to take away income tax anyway. It's all good. This'll be fine. This may be part of that scheme. The way it goes is like this. You don't have to file right away. You can file later, the April 15th, they're going to give them some slack on this. But what it really means is you're not going to get your refunds.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Yeah, there's that. Yep, there's that. And so they're going to be sitting on these refunds for God knows how long. That's the rumor mill JC's hearing? Yeah, the rumor mill is you're not going gonna get your refunds this year on time this year So you which by the way is not good for the show You're hurting the show man doge wait not you think they're already changing the code now I Don't know what they're up to I'd have to talk to him some more about it this day
Starting point is 00:27:42 I didn't we didn't have dinner this last Friday because he's sick and you know, he got that whatever that coof is. And so I'll find out more later. It's known as respiratory flu these days. It's different. Oh, is that what it is? That's what it is. Yeah. So I I'll find out later and, but this is not, this, this is hilarious. this is a disaster yeah in every way all right number three okay I would be back to NPR well his name is
Starting point is 00:28:13 Marco Alas he's a third 25 year old Rutgers University graduate who previously worked at must SpaceX and at X he was a temporary appointee at Treasury who was granted access to this payment system alongside Krauss. Now on Thursday, the Wall Street Journal identified racist posts from a social media account linked to him. Those posts have been deleted, but NPR did independently confirm them. And LS has now resigned, although Musk and Vice President JD Dance are saying he should get his job back. But all of this raises questions about just how thoroughly vetted some of these staffers are. And then there are other relatively junior engineers names that are popping up
Starting point is 00:28:49 and just add multiple agencies, creating a lot of confusion for workers and frankly, alarm. Well, I understand that legal challenges to Doge are coming really quickly now. How might that affect the overall work of this team, you think? Yeah, so I mean, the first lawsuit about Doge was filed just minutes after President Trump was sworn in. This week we've had unions representing government workers suing Treasury over concerns about that Doge Sackfors accessing that payment system I talk about, a judge temporarily limited
Starting point is 00:29:20 access to people inside Treasury, so not Musk and his team at the White House. On Friday, the University of California student government sued to stop Doge from gaining access to data on student loan borrowers. These lawsuits could constrain the scope of Doge's work, but they move slowly in the legal system. Meanwhile, government workers were speaking to say Doge is very quickly moving ahead with this work. All right. Let's just parse some things out here. First of all, this racist comment. Now, if I understand correctly, the guy who made the racist comment is Akash Boba and he's Indian.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And what he posted somewhere in his past, probably when he was 15, was- Yes, this is classic. Yeah, was, I'm not going to marry outside of my race. By the way, that's Indians. Bill, yep. There's also Jews. Yes. It's also Catholics.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yes. It's also lots of people that have this feeling, especially old timers. Mo. Mo. Mo. Mo. Mo-facts. Mo-facts. And, you know, so, but that is now, oh, he got fired for racist comments. And you notice they don't really expound on it or expand on what he actually tweeted and
Starting point is 00:30:33 when he tweeted it. And there's all kinds of interesting take-downs. I love the one from Krebs on security. Oh, Krebs on security. Oh, they really dug in deep these guys. Oh, yet he founded Tesla dot sexy LLC. Oh no horrible, horrible, horrible. It's all so bad. You know, I am kind of holding back because it does have clips of Kara Swisher. But Aaron Burnett, you know, this, the the true breaking news came from Wired.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And I think it's, is it Katie Drummond? Is she, let me see, is she the Wired lady? I think she's the Wired lady. Yeah. So she is the executive vice president, editor and chief of all things Wired. And Wired is just doing such excellent reporting. So let's get a little background. Breaking news, a 25-year-old aide at Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency
Starting point is 00:31:28 resigning tonight over links to social media posts advocating racism and eugenics. This is according to the Wall Street Journal. Again, advocating racism and eugenics, John. Eugenics. Oh, so in other words, I want to marry within my own caste. Yes, that's that's... Is a form of eugenics. That's eugenics. Oh, so in other words, I want to marry within my own cast. Yes, that is a form of eugenics. That's eugenics. Exactly. I mean, it's it boggles the mind, but it's Aaron Burnett. What do you expect?
Starting point is 00:31:52 Advocating racism and eugenics. This is according to the Wall Street Journal. Hold on a second. Again, they have this material. They should they should. They don't have to read it. They can put it on the screen. They never do this.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Why would we do that? No, that's not, no, no. No, no. You might show how misleading you are. People might get a clue. According to the Wall Street Journal, who says that the aide resigned after being confronted with the Posts. Now that former, now former, Doge, was one of the people at the center of a legal dispute
Starting point is 00:32:20 over accessing that sensitive, crucial, and massive Treasury Department payment system. And it comes as one of our next guests has uncovered even more details about another of Musk's young deputies. Out front now Kara Swisher, tech journalist, podcast host who has covered Elon Musk extensively for years in the entire tech world and Katie Drummond, global editorial director at Wired, which has been breaking story after story on these recent high school and college graduates that Musk has brought to Washington. Okay, so let's listen to Katie. We'll skip the switcher stuff because it's
Starting point is 00:32:52 just her hating on everybody like her book like everything she does. So Katie, let's talk about one of these people specifically now your latest story is a 19. It focuses on a 19 year old software engineer working at Doge 19 working at Doge 19 19, working at Doge. 19, 19. He's 19. Ladies and gentlemen, he's 19. 19-year-olds are sent to deserts to go fight on your behalf.
Starting point is 00:33:13 With a gun. With a gun. They're catching hot lead in the desert, but now he's 19-year-old. Someone who's passed associations that you have looked into, such that they are at 19, would call into question passing a background check. Oh, of course that hasn't happened in these cases But would normally happen in a case with one would hope yes So this is a 19 year old high school graduate one would hope it who has used the unfortunate nickname Big balls online. So that would be one way that we could refer to him. Why unfortunate? Why is it unfortunate? It's a great nickname.
Starting point is 00:33:49 That's actually interesting. That's a good catch. Why is it unfortunate? Because you are forced to say Big Balls on CNN. Which you apparently enjoy doing. Who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls, so that would be one way that we could refer to him. Refer to him by his name then maybe. You could refer to him in many different ways. No, because you like saying Big Balls.
Starting point is 00:34:12 You like it, say it. Say it, Big Balls. He is now working at Musk's Behest inside Doge, and we looked into his background. So we found several notable things, Aaron, one of which is that this individual has founded multiple companies, including one with another unfortunate name, Unfortunate name? Tesla dot sexy LLC. Oh, no. Why is that unfortunate?
Starting point is 00:34:38 Because she has to mention Tesla, I guess, and she doesn't want to. I don't know. It's a mystery. Which he established in 2021. He would have been around 16 years old. Now this LLC controls dozens of web domains. Hold on a second. So this is what I like. Now she goes from a name, Tesla.Sexy LLC, a screen name, to acting as if there's an actual LLC, like a limited liability corporation that has registered domain names. I mean, as far as I can tell, there is no Tesla dot sexy LLC, but now she makes it sound like he's got a corporation.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Established in 2021, he would have been around 16 years old. Now this LLC controls dozens of web domains, a handful of which are registered to Russia now that okay stop They're not registered to Russia. He registered some dot. Are you domain names? That's not registered to Russia This is this is the lady who has done this excellent technology reporting, just fabulous work. Afrogodkady. It controls dozens of web domains, a handful of which are registered to Russia. Now that in and of itself is not necessarily...
Starting point is 00:35:53 No, is correct. Is bull? Illegal. Illegal? But every expert we spoke to said that that is exactly the kind of thing, those kinds of foreign connections. Oh my God. Foreign connection.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I can register a.ru domain. Am I done a Russian asset? Do I have unfortunate foreign connections? Yes, yes you are. That would raise red flags on a background check. Now he also worked at- No one would. Red flag, red flag.
Starting point is 00:36:19 You registered a domain name. Oh no. I have bigmike2024.com. I think I should go to jail. That would raise red flags on a background check. Now he also worked at a network monitoring firm that is known for hiring reformed black hat hackers, essentially criminals.
Starting point is 00:36:38 What? And lastly- Ha ha ha, go ahead, go ahead. That's not true. Essentially criminals. Unless they committed a crime and were found guilty, they're not criminals. You John C. Dvorak, you're a podcaster. You are essentially a criminal.
Starting point is 00:36:58 That's what you are. Yeah. I'd like to see them say that about me and find them. I got liable lawyers. I know how to do this. Yeah. That's bull crap. ...firm that is known for hiring reformed black hat hackers, essentially criminals. And lastly, we uncovered telegram messages that we've linked to this individual in which that telegram user is soliciting a cyber attack for hire. So
Starting point is 00:37:22 actually looking for someone to perform a cyber attack at their behest. And Telegram of course is heavily used in Russia. I mean, it's a definitional social media platform. Of course. It's heavily used in Ukraine actually to be quite specific about it because you've done that reporting as well. So this is the kind of unhinged non-reporting that is being lauded by George. I'm not going to play anymore, Kara Swisher, but believe me, she goes on, Katie, you're just knocking out of the park. This is so great.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Wired is so relevant. I had a conversation with a friend of mine who's a famous publisher, and he mocked me for even suggesting that Wired was even relevant on any level in the entire world's dimensions. So it's like... When did you say this? It must have been a while ago that you said that. I can't believe you would have said that. I was defending a writer that worked there and it was a long story. But the point is that these guys are losers. Now let's get back to clip four. Oh I'm sorry I didn't know you had another clip I thought I thought oh in my my apologies. No that's okay what it did not break the stream of consciousness it was fine I got then it from there I got three more from that go on a different direction. Well since
Starting point is 00:38:41 we're talking about Doge. But I want to stick with Doge because I have something to talk about, Joe. But what is what is clip four? I see one, two, three. What? I see Doge take down one take. Oh, you did the take down clips. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. No, the clips. You're somewhere else. You're somewhere else. I'm glad you did that. Those are the take down trip clips.
Starting point is 00:39:03 No, USAIF distraught clips. What is USA I F? USA ID miss the typo. Can I know can I lead you into that? I would hope you would okay Because it's important to understand that the no agenda show very early on Made friends because we are friends and we're genuine, with all systems administrators. And it really came to a crescendo during the IRS hearings where the IRS were going after nonprofits. And I think it was Schaffetz who said, so where did you learn about this? I don't know, some guy in the IT department who'd been his name was Ben some dude named Ben and now every sys admin Addresses themselves in no agenda nation addresses themselves as dude named Ben or dude named do debt named Bernadette
Starting point is 00:39:57 and dude named Mohammed and dude name name Mohammed as long as it's a dude and We have always respected systems administrators because we know that they really make the world. They'll save us. Yes, we have always said when it all comes down to it, it's not going to be the hams, it's going to be the dudes named Ben. So we have a lot of people who reach out and I learned a couple things that I thought were quite interesting and I wasn't really ready to confirm it until I heard and this is quite amazing, I heard Antonio Gracias,
Starting point is 00:40:35 yeah, Gracias is his name and he works with Elon and I think he was part of Doge or is part of Doge and he can and I'll play this clip first. There's a little gotcha in here as he's talking about what they discovered inside the federal, inside the the financial what's that? The second Inside the... The financial... What's that? What is the term I'm looking for? I don't know. The treasury.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Inside the treasury systems, what they discovered that the real problem is with these systems. And this is from the All In podcast with Jason Calacanis. And there's a little bit in here which is just that confirmed before me. And then I'll tell you what I've understood about Doge. The way the government works, a department just basically asks for money from Treasury and they send it out. We all run businesses. There's a reconciliation process.
Starting point is 00:41:34 You have a contract, you issue a PO against it, something comes in, you check that it came in, services is rendered, and then you issue a payable and then a month later you pay it, right? That doesn't happen with US government. That process is broken. It used to happen. It's broken now. And so literally, money's flowing out. I used to ask myself this question, why are the numbers always revised? Why are they always wrong? How can the government know how much money it's paid to hit the button in the computer and figure it out? The problem is that button doesn't exist. We spent time early on. I was at Mar-a-Lago with Elon trying to track through, like, how
Starting point is 00:42:06 does the money actually flow? No one could tell us how it actually flows. Where is it going out? People didn't know. So he's saying that there's no reconciliation process and that would be, I'll give you an example. Tina comes in and she says, hey, I'm looking at the credit card receipt here. And something was paid for my card for some hoodie. But I didn't order it.
Starting point is 00:42:30 And I say, oh, no, I ordered that. Here's the hoodie. Yeah, Mimi does the same thing. Yeah. Reconciled. And it's because something was under her. If you're married, this happened. This reconciliation is a common thing. Very common.
Starting point is 00:42:42 And it was because the account was in her name, and that's why the hoodie was charged to her card. So that's reconciliation. So this does not exist within the Treasury Department. They get a purchase order, they pay it, but they pay it without saying, hey, was the work done? Was the product delivered?
Starting point is 00:43:00 Did you get it? That does not exist. Or is the person even alive? Now what he said there, if you listen carefully, he said, when we were a while back looking at this at Mar-a-Lago, now this is what I've heard. I've heard that these four teenagers, these youngsters, these racist eugenicist people were in the treasury department at midnight on January 21st. And they sucked down the entire database as a database, whether it runs on COBOL or not.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And they got the whole, I think for 2023 and 2024, and then they exited the building. They have had this information, all the information. The Treasury Department is the government's bank account. It's one account and it goes into the Federal Reserve system and payments are made. And they have, that's why you see Data Republican, all these different websites popping up. They have had this for weeks. They're not in there anymore. This is, at this point, it's a troll exercise. Who are we going to mess with next as they just go through everything slowly like okay there's this payment there's that payment oh all these things are going. The judge who blocked them who cares they were in they were out.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Yes this is another thing JC talked about and you should mention that Data Republican thing again. Datarepublican.com. Yes, people should look at that. And there's a lot of information. And he mentioned that at least one of these groups that are plowing through this data has found that Chelsea Clinton has gotten tens of millions of dollars from the government. That's a little disingenuous because they added her name to the Hillary and Bill Clinton Foundation. They added her name.
Starting point is 00:44:53 So all the payments that went to the Clinton Foundation is now the Chelsea Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton Foundation. Okay, well, I'll go with it. I have no evidence to the contrary. I looked at it. When you said, take a look at it, I looked at it. I'll just play this. Good man. I'll play the second clip of this Antonio Gracia because he explains when this happened and how
Starting point is 00:45:13 long this non-reconciliation, i.e. the government is just paying whatever the Treasury is paying, whatever they're told to pay, how long it's been going on. It was changed in the 70s, in the 70s, in 1973. The Nixon administration at 71, let me go back, they came off the gold standard, which allowed deficits. In 73, at the nader of the Nixon presidency, Congress took away from the presidency the executive power, this thing called the portionments, which is the power of the executive to stop spending.
Starting point is 00:45:39 So Nixon was abusing it by stopping what he didn't want. And so Congress took away from them. What that means today is the executive, as he reaches in, it's very hard to just stop payments. So what's happening is the government is put in a process where they would just have an authorized executive kind of stamp a bill that got paid that broke. I don't know when it broke, but it broke sometime.
Starting point is 00:46:02 So the money flow now, department, gets a budget authorized to it by Congress. It goes to OMB. OMB allocates the budget. That department then just sends a money request to Treasury to pay. It is not reconciled against what happened. So once you have a budget, you can just make payments whatever you want. It's not checked. Nothing is checked.
Starting point is 00:46:25 So this is what we continuously have to keep in mind when they're going into the Department of Education, when they're going into USA. They had all the information for weeks. They already know everything. It's not like the Doge team is being protected with armed guards while they're tinkering away and trying to stop payments. They're not even in there. That's why the guy resigned. He's already done. I'm back in India, whatever. He's having a good time. So now I want to go from there to USAID and introduce it with, because we have been talking about USAID ever since the economic hitman. The economic hitman was a great book.
Starting point is 00:47:09 The thematic book for the show early on. Yes, written by John Perkins. I'll just give the quick definition according to the book. Economic hitmen are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars. They funnel money from the World Bank, the U.S. Agency for International Development, USAID, and other foreign aid organizations into the coffers of huge corporations in the pockets of a few wealthy families who control the planet's natural resources.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Their tools include fraudulent financial reports, rigged elections, payoff, extortion, sex, and murder. They play a game as old as Empire, but one that has taken on new and terrifying dimensions during this time of globalization. And I'm going to play the very first time I went to bingit.io, bingit.io, any podcast can get a bingit.io of their own, talk to Sir Deenonymous. It's on the website. I'm going to play the very first time we talked about USAID and that was on episode 112, Sunday, July 12th, 2009. Here we go, everybody. I should say, by the way, sincere apologies for the horrible Skype audio that I even allowed
Starting point is 00:48:32 to be recorded at the time. It's really bad. The synopsis for this grant opportunity is detailed below. Eligible applicants, others. To be eligible for the cooperative agreement under this RFA, an organization must be a US-based institution. Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. Okay, to be eligible for the cooperative agreement under this RFA an organization must be a US based institution ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba Description the USAID is launching a coordinated comprehensive program
Starting point is 00:48:52 I know I know I said USAID this is I was tricked in the beginning already to say USAID Instead of USAID. The USAID is launching a coordinated comprehensive program designed to minimize the impact of specific newly emergent diseases of animal origin, which pose a significant threat to human health and development. The program must be managed by the USAID Avian and Pandemic Influenza Unit. 2009, they were already getting ready for pandemics through USAID. Huh? USAID will closely work with international host governments, USG and private sector entities to coordinate activities and ensure that US...
Starting point is 00:49:31 Who is this USAID? That's Economic Hitman. Is that a company, USAID? It's an agency or something. I don't know. It's a good question. I mean, as far as I... I'll answer as soon as I ever time I see it.
Starting point is 00:49:39 In fact, there are members of the United States... It's the United States here it is USAID gov. Oh man. USAID from the American people. This is money we're giving away. The US Agency for International Development. Yeah, that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:49:59 That this is the this is the economic hitman that we've talked about in the past. That's what this is. You know what? These are $18 million websites, John. This is not just any old site. Remember that? It's unbelievable. The U S agency for international development is an independent agency, independent that provides economic development and humanitarian assistance
Starting point is 00:50:19 around the world in support of the foreign policy goals of the United States. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Economic hitmen. There you go. So we obviously talked about the economic hitmen earlier than 2009. Yes, but we hadn't put it all together. And this is the days of the 18 million dollar websites that we were moaning about. Yeah, we were moaning about. Yeah, we were moaning about it. Obama was putting together like when we were laughing about it. So we have been observing USAID for a long, long time
Starting point is 00:50:54 and have always, and we never really considered that they were, you know, buying Politico Pro subscriptions. What a bunch of horse crap that is. No, no, no, they didn't pay us to do stories. They subscribe to our pro service. Okay, fun. So now let's get into USAID. John Cena, where'd it go? And we should mention that Politico is owned by a German publishing house.
Starting point is 00:51:24 By Springer, which makes it even worse. Yeah, it does make it worse. Yeah. Okay, I'm ready. All right, for what? For your USAID clips. Oh, okay. Well, the clips I have, this goes in a different direction than the first ones. This is more reporting from NPR about how horrible what's going on is going on. This, the USAID, the president. Last day has brought more news about the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I think it learned from Tom Brokaw. The Trump administration's efforts to shut down or dramatically change parts of the federal government. A judge has temporarily stopped Elon Musk and his Doge team from getting access to some of Treasury Department records. Begin now with the move to shut down the United States Agency for International Development. 60-year-old agency manages most of America's foreign aid programs, but the Trump administration has paused all foreign assistance and put the agency's 13,000 employees on administrative
Starting point is 00:52:35 leave. Yesterday, a judge stepped in to block that administrative leave order for more than 2,000 of the employees. I can't help it. And this is so old fashioned. You know that the guy, you're a great man. You sound just like Tom Brokaw in Rock of the employees. I can't help it and this is so old-fashioned. You know that the guy, you're a great man, you sound just like Tom Brokaw, I'm knocking her down. Empire Global Health Correspondent. Correspondent.
Starting point is 00:52:52 This is the, besides blowing the line there, she's the health, there's a woman that he brings on as the health correspondent. Yes. What does that got to do with the price of bread? Well, I would say since USAID has been funding pandemic research since we started looking at them. Oh, there you go. And a lot of other research we will discuss in a moment. Yeah, I think it's pretty relevant. Employees. MPR Global Health correspondent, Fatma Tanis joins us.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Fatma, thanks so much for being with us. Thank you. Thank you, Scott. We've been speaking to many US aid ID employees. Oh, is there? How do they react? Now, he's made a new one. US aid ID.
Starting point is 00:53:30 He's trying... Oh, wow. This is just so bad. Thank you, Scott. You've been speaking to many US aid ID employees. How do they react? Well, Scott, people are distraught. And, you know, since the inauguration, I've been talking to senior officials, agency staff
Starting point is 00:53:47 both here and overseas, and they didn't want to reveal their names because they're not authorized to speak to the press and some were afraid of being targeted by the administration. They say that effectively one of the biggest aid agencies in the world doesn't exist anymore. They're shocked. Right there, right there. They're calling it an aid organization. And the name is Agency for International Developments. And as we heard in the exact definition in the throwback clip, it is to enhance the American
Starting point is 00:54:17 agenda. It's not to provide aid. This is the the PsyOP that the name is. Yeah, when you were caught in it by saying USAID USA USA You're in 2009 by the way want to mention. This was what almost 20 years ago It's a long time is long enough. Yeah, effectively one of the biggest aid agencies in the world doesn't exist anymore They're shocked at the dizzying speed in which things have unraveled and And they say the way that they are being treated by the administration has also been shocking. And many people have lost access to their
Starting point is 00:54:49 government accounts and emails. The ones staffed overseas have been ordered back to the US in 30 days. And they say they feel completely abandoned by their government. Many are in conflict zones, they're concerned about their personal security. They're told to come back, but they don't have homes in the US or jobs or insurance. And some are pregnant due to their due security. They're told to come back, but they don't have homes in the US where jobs or insurance, and some are pregnant close to their due date, so their delivery plans have also been appended. Babies. Oh, wait, their delivery plans have been appended? You mean they're going to deliver later?
Starting point is 00:55:16 Hold on. They're told to come back, but they don't have homes in the US where jobs or insurance, and some are pregnant close to their due date, so their delivery plans have also been upended. Their delivery plans have been upended? That's kind of odd. No, I mean that's why I wanted to stop it there because that's not what she said. What did she say? Upended. Oh, upended. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:55:40 But here's the thinking here. She is reading from a script and here's the challenge. Write the word up ended. There's two ways of writing it. There's up dash ended and up ended. One word U P E N D E D and the spell checker won't say that it's, that's wrong. So it'll be fine. So you write a script and put U P E N D E D-D-E-D and you will say, upended. She is reading from a script. This is a scripted interview.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Oh no! What? Say it's not so! Good catch. I know. I'm shocked. Good catch. Very shocked.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Good catch. Good catch. You're right. So, upended. She says, upended. But she meant upended. And if you think about it, there's also the other thing, these people are in places where, oh my God, they got to leave. It's because they're spooks
Starting point is 00:56:32 we're talking about here. They're spooks, I tell you. That are in danger, you know, just by the virtue of their job. And now they all of a sudden have gotten called back and, oh my God, everything has been upended. Appended been up ended. But okay here we go. So what we're listening both sides on this by the way I think this is why he botched his read earlier. They're both reading from a script I'm convinced of it. I'm with you. I'm with you. And this is provided by the some whoever's I don't know who this is. How about the USAGM, the United States of America Global Media, which is overseen by the Broadcast Board of Governors, who for 2024 had an almost $1 billion budget with over 4,000 media contracts.
Starting point is 00:57:24 How about that? Remember, this is all happening because of Smith-Munt. Once Smith-Munt was overturned or modernized, meaning we can now propagandize the American people, this is the result. This is the result. You get scripted NPR. Can you get appended?
Starting point is 00:57:42 How does yesterday's order from a federal judge about the agency affect US AID and its workers? Oh, you're right. You can even tell he's trying to make the script sound conversational. Yeah. You know how I mean, like you'll pause on a word? I know exactly what you mean. I think a lot of people do. It's hard to explain that from a... When you're reading and trying to sound conversational it has a stilted quality that is yes pretty this is like comparing a
Starting point is 00:58:10 News interviews with somebody who's really distraught and they're having issues on it They got the microphone stuck in their face and somebody in the same situation in a movie acting. Yes Yes. Yeah Acting one act never. Yes. Yeah. Bad actors. Bad actors. Bad actors. How does yesterday's order from a federal judge about the agency affect USAID and its workers? So last night, a federal judge issued a temporary pause on the administration's move to put 2200 people on administrative leave. Now, those are union foreign service officers who filed the suit.
Starting point is 00:58:46 The judge also reinstated 500 people who were already put on leave. And he paused the accelerated return of overseas staff that was supposed to happen this weekend. Now this was all pushed back until next Friday. And in the meantime, there will be a hearing next week on the legality of the administration's overall moves to dismantle the agency. What is the administration focusing on USAID? So, I think this is why President Trump is going to double down today because this agency
Starting point is 00:59:15 was created by executive order. Money was appropriated for the work they do, but it's still an agency that has been brought into existence by an executive order which can be removed by executive order, as far as I'm concerned. People may not like it, but I think that's just the truth. All these agencies, in fact, are under the executive department, the branch, the executive branch. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:42 And that means the executive of the executive branch Trump can pretty much do what he wants and everybody like Galloway and these other people moaning and groaning about it. Oh a separation of powers there's no separation of powers when you're the boss of this group. In that podcast Galloway was going on and on like this is only $200 per person in America. You know, if he takes $335 billion or $40 billion and he divides it and he says, oh, it's only $200 per person per year. If you ask any American,
Starting point is 01:00:14 would they want to help people in need for $200 a year? They'd all say yes. I'm like, well, if you have a family of five, no, Scott, no. But for him in his fifth house, yeah, sure, 200 bucks, who cares? I bet 358,000 on Kamala Winnie. He doesn't care. These elitist people. Elitist, yes. Okay, onward. Was the administration focusing on USAID? Well, President Trump is accusing the agency of corruption and fraud. No evidence has been
Starting point is 01:00:44 provided to the public. No evidence. No evidence. The New York Times' advisor, Elon Musk, say that they want to shrink the federal government and the budget. Analysts say USAID is an easy target because it works overseas. Americans are less aware of what it does. An analyst say what's happening here is a playbook for the administration's plans for
Starting point is 01:01:02 other agencies. But USAID has typically enjoyed bipartisan support for its projects and some Republicans I've talked to are saying that there will be cascading consequences from all of this. Andrew Natsios is a former administrator of USAID who served under George W. Bush and he said Americans don't realize how influential USAID was. Its logo, for example, had the American flag on aid packages distributed all over the world and it said, from the American people. Yeah, another great sigh up. That's what they always show. You saw the pallets going on to the C-130. Here's your 40 billion at
Starting point is 01:01:38 work people from the American people. We love you. We love you, we love you, we're good people, we're good people. Yeah, that's what we are. And when we look at it, we think we're good people, of course. That's what we think. That's what you do. We're good people. Yes, we're good people.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Let's go to finish this distraught series on this scripted piece on NPR, which I'll complain about later. Here we go. Now one of the agency's key functions was helping with disease control. You'll remember the Ebola outbreak in 2014. So USAID worked to contain that. And they also supported.
Starting point is 01:02:17 They brought the guy home. He got out of the plane in Dallas. It was live on TV like it was OJ. He hops off the plane in Dallas, was live on TV like it was OJ. He hops off the plane like, walks right into the terminal and we were all thinking, oh, this guy's bleeding out of his butthole. This is horrible. Do you remember that? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Oh, well, we helped. And the nurse who jumped on her bike and said, screw you guys and took off. To contain that. And they also supported programs curbing migration in Latin American countries, for example, which is one of this administration's key goals. Good work. Where does this leave many of the aid groups who work with USAID? You know, Scott, the entire humanitarian aid industry is totally shaken by this.
Starting point is 01:02:59 The industry is shaken. The USAID partners with NGOs, contractors to do the work that Congress allocated money for. And since the foreign aid freeze, no one's been getting paid by the US, not even for work that they already did back in December and January before all of this. So they're owed millions of dollars. Now, this has put everyone in a really bad spot. Thousands of people have lost their jobs in the past couple of weeks. And many of these companies, including some of the big aid groups,
Starting point is 01:03:26 don't know if they will survive if the U.S. doesn't fulfill its contractual duties. So it's really not looking good for aid groups right now and for the people around the world who depended on their help. It's not looking good, people. It's not looking good. This was a propagandistic piece if I've ever heard one. Oh no was kind of the theme of it. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:03:49 It's bull crap and this is NPR. Do you have more on USAID because I want to have some things I want to say about this. This will take me to my little side track but I can play this and I think then you can go off on your... Okay. Because I have to play this clip. This is K-Part. Your buddy, your buddy K-Part. Yes, the Prissy Gay Scald. It's the only way to describe it. A Prissy Gay Scald. It's a PSC everybody. A PGS. I want to play this and I want to play two short
Starting point is 01:04:23 clips which are which is my complaint of the day but let's play this. This want to play two short clips which are Which is my complaint of the day, but let's play this. This is caper They brought a new guy in because Brooks was on I don't know what Brooks is doing But they brought some new guy in from the American Enterprise Institute who I thought would maybe be a counterpoint but no From Elon Musk gaining unprecedented access to sensitive government information to Democrats trying to build what they call a bigger and better party, we turn tonight to the analysis of Capehart and Contineti. That's Washington Post associate editor Jonathan Capehart and Matthew Contineti with the American
Starting point is 01:05:00 Enterprise Institute. David Brooks is away this evening. It's good to see you both. Good to see you. So Donald Trump and his allies are making quick progress toward their stated goal of the deconstruction of the administrative state. We've got takeovers and the hollowing out
Starting point is 01:05:14 of major government agencies offering severance agreements to government workers, causing federal grants and loans, which of course is now tied up in the courts. Jonathan, are the shock waves being felt across the government signs of a super committed new administration shaking up the status quo? Or are we witnessing the full assault on the limits of executive power? Both, Jeff, both. Remember, Donald Trump campaigned.
Starting point is 01:05:42 He told us this is what he was going to do. Project 2025 is all about doing what is happening right now. And so they are trying to deconstruct this. I think it's Steve Bannon who said the administrative state and they are, as I said last week, President Trump and Elon Musk in particular are taking a wrecking ball to the federal government by sowing, sure, chaos and confusion and fear, but he's following through on what he promised to do. How do you see it, man?
Starting point is 01:06:17 I think Jonathan's right. I think Jonathan's right. I think Jonathan's right. Oh boy, you spent hours and it's appreciated. It's appreciated. So the crap that they don't have any counterpoints on this PBS thing, and which brings me to two short clips I want to play. This is because this is a complaint of mine.
Starting point is 01:06:38 It was brought up in a previous show about how NPR is doing literally doing that. That was PBS, but same thing. NPR is doing literally doing that that was PBS but same thing NPR is doing advertising I want to play two short clips which are call to action advertisements that played back to back these played one played and then the other played it's unbelievable this is the NPR advert cap one. This message comes from Capital One. Banking with Capital One helps you keep more money in your wallet with no fees or minimums on checking accounts. What's in your wallet? Terms apply. See CapitalOne.com slash bank for details. Capital One NA member FDIC. Now, was this on the radio or was this on the podcast?
Starting point is 01:07:23 This was on the radio or was this on the podcast? This was on the radio stream. Okay, so it was a radio station. Yeah, I think this was KQED. But what is interesting is because whoever put the stream together, the next thing on the stream was this ad, which is another ad for Capital One right after the first ad. This message comes from Capital One with the Venture X card. Earn unlimited double miles on everything you buy. Plus get premium benefits at a collection of hotels when booking through Capital One travel. What's in your wallet? Terms apply. Details at CapitalOne.com. From a legal standpoint, the FCC and a lot of the certainly the music rights organizations
Starting point is 01:08:10 have deemed an audio stream to be equal to that of an over the air radio signal. And I'm bringing that up in regards to if you play a record on your radio station, you have a stream, you don't have to pay double, and so it's considered to be the radio, meaning that under the same rules that they cannot do a call to action, this would be a violation. That's, this is my... I agree with you a hundred something. But I will say this, this was back-to-back. Yeah, this was back to back. Yeah that's bad programming. These people should not be getting government funding. Well they won't be. That's all going to end. Okay so in the season of reveal I'm trying to
Starting point is 01:08:57 figure out what is... you can't deny it anymore. I need a jingle people. I need a season of reveal jingle. Season of reveal. Season of reveal. So, Leave It to Beaver comes out and she's talking to the press and she and obviously the president is aware of what she's communicating to the world and when it comes to shutting down USAID, here's her laundry list of, you played a little bit of those in the NPR coverage, here's her laundry list of some of the things that USAID. Here's her laundry list of, you played a little bit of those in the NPR coverage, here's her laundry list of some of the things that USAID was funding. Through USAID over the past several years these are some of the insane priorities that that organization has been spending money on. 1.5 million
Starting point is 01:09:39 dollars to advance DEI in Serbia's workplaces, 70,000 for a production of a DEI musical in Ireland. 47,000 for a transgender opera in Colombia. 32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru. I don't know about you, but as an American taxpayer, I don't want my dollars going towards this crap. And I know the American people don't either. And that's exactly what Elon Musk has been tasked by President Trump to do. So I'm thinking, wait a minute, what are they trying to communicate here? Are they trying to communicate? And part of the Psy-op they're putting on the American people, or marketing,
Starting point is 01:10:17 call it whatever you want, it's the same thing, is let's all get outraged by these ideological things. Yeah. And then it starts to dawn on me, these are not ideological. And it hit me, and I'll just play a little bit of this report and I'll explain why, I'll stop it and I'll explain why. This is a protest against, in Germany, against the AFD. Shame on you, Mr. Mertz.
Starting point is 01:10:39 That's the message these protesters have for Friedrich Mertz, the man who leads the main CDU party and who could be Germany's next leader. In Munich more than 200,000 people took to the streets protesting against both the extreme right and what they view as Merz's attempts to gain their support. With two weeks to go before the general election voters are not giving up. They don't want the anti-immigrant extreme right alternative for Germany or AFD party in government. Now, notice the words have changed. We've gone from far right to extreme right. There
Starting point is 01:11:12 are hundreds of thousands of people protesting. From what I understand from my German friends, they all hate the immigrant situation. They all love the fact that this guy who, you know, he said, well, I'll reach out a little bit to AFD and at least we'll approve this reduction of immigrant inflow. But yet there are hundreds of thousands of people protesting. It's this protester, and we don't have video, but I'll tell you what this protester was. This is a dude in a blonde wig with blue eyeshadow. Alternative for Germany or AFD party in government. I am really worried about things and I simply want to do something to stand up for a colorful coexistence
Starting point is 01:11:53 that people can live together, be happy with each other, and that we don't continue to be negative and against minorities, but instead appreciate there is a diverse society and that we can also benefit from it. So he's saying, hey, I don't understand why we just can't all get along. People are different. We need diversity. He's talking about himself because he's a freak show and he's standing there in his blue. I mean, it's a huge dude in a blonde curly wig, kind of a cute wig actually, and with blue eyeshadow. I'm like, hold on a second. What USAID is doing, if you listen to the countries, Colombia, all these different places, Uganda, this is a tool
Starting point is 01:12:33 that USAID has used to garner support. You see, when you talk about children, because what is the whole LGBTQ thing about? The T is what was added on. The T is about transgender. And we've somehow, and I'll get to America in a moment because this has been done to our own people. The T part is what we've told everybody is if you don't transition these children, then they're going to kill themselves. Children is a very powerful tool in psychological warfare. So when you're told that you have to let children transition, people are compassionate. The same goes for America. We're compassionate people. We don't want children to kill themselves.
Starting point is 01:13:26 We've been told through research that this is, you know, we really have to let these kids transition. It's gotten so good, the communication, that, you know, people are harming their kids because they think that their kids are trans. They've been using this overseas to garner groups, multiple groups who are on the edge. They've bought into the trans-Maoism, the transgender meme. They've added Q on there, so now if you're queer, like, I just don't fit in, I don't know what I really am, where I am, but hey, wait a minute, there's this group of people over here who are compassionate.
Starting point is 01:14:02 They care about the trans children, They don't want them to disappear. So then you can garner a whole bunch of fringe groups. You can get the trans, the queer, the questioning, the misfits, people with other mental disorders. You can get the anarchists. And that way you can get a hundred thousand people to protest. It used to be Black Lives Matter, and that worked quite well. We had one last hurrah with Black Lives Matter and that worked quite well. We had
Starting point is 01:14:25 one last hurrah with Black Lives Matters and it turned out that was so manufactured. Everyone saw through it. We then saw in Los Angeles literally the culmination of Black Lives Matters and all of a sudden the stage switch there was the rainbow flag and it was Trans Lives Matters. So they built in this DEI thing. By the way, USAID was doing a lot of exploration on just how far they could take this trans issue as we have this testimony from a good man, I think. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:00 I do have one interjection. This to me, what you're doing, and I agree with this, USAID is somehow behind all this. This accounts for the fact, because I question people all the time, we have a lot of international listeners, and yes, Drag Queen's story hour is all around the globe. Everywhere. Why? Because they felt they were funded. So you get a... Funded. is all around the globe. Everywhere. And I- Why?
Starting point is 01:15:25 Because they felt they were funded. So you get a- Funded. You get a transgender dance party. Hey, everybody wants to go dance with drag queens. That's fun, we'll have a good time. And you multiply. And again, it all comes down to compassion
Starting point is 01:15:39 and empathy of the human spirit. But they have all been used to become part of, you know, throw, it's easy to throw Palestine in, oh there's another another group that's being oppressed. Oh, well just, so you can garner all of the support and they've been using it economic hitman style around the world and in our own country and that's where they made the mistake. Just a quick side thing here, USAID spent 241 million dollars on testing out the trans transitioning on mice. Can you describe what exactly the American people's taxpayer dollars were spent on regarding
Starting point is 01:16:17 transgender animal testing? Yeah, in a lot of these cases, they're involved mice, rats, monkeys who are being surgically mutilated and subjected to hormone therapies to mimic female to male or male to female gender transitions, gender affirming hormone therapies, and then looking at the biological, psychological, and physiological effects of the gender transitions, looking at the effects of taking vaccines after you've transitioned these animals from male to female or female to male, looking at the size of their genitals changing after you've put them on estrogen or testosterone therapies to transition them. estrogen or testosterone therapies to transition them. And in the case that the example the chairwoman gave, there was a 1.1 million dollar grant
Starting point is 01:17:15 to give female lab rats testosterone to mimic transgender male humans and then overdose them with this party drug to see if animals who are taking test female animals taking testosterone were more likely to overdose on the sex party drug than animals who are not taking testosterone. So believe me when you're putting a quarter of a billion dollars into this type of research you're doing it for a reason you want to organize trans dance parties you're handing out party drugs make sure you don't kill them, we need them to protest the next day.
Starting point is 01:17:46 The problem is, where they went wrong is DEI. And DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion was completely targeted at a combination of black and trans in America, but DEI could be used for any kind of ethnic group around the world. And what happened is the financial community jumped in and said, yeah, you know, we're not we're gonna make you non-investable unless you have DEI and you have all of the and you're doing the right way with your social governance score, etc. And it went too far. All the grifters came in, everybody started making millions of dollars writing books, Robert D'Angelo.
Starting point is 01:18:26 And they pushed it so far that a certain point in America, and I think everywhere in the world, people went, hold on a second. Now I'm a white guy, I'm a white woman. I'm straight, I'm being discriminated against. And they pushed it too far. And this is why your observation of the Democrat Party Going all in they're gonna die on the trans hill because that's all they know they have no alternative strategy their strategy was always
Starting point is 01:18:56 Mobilize people because we're compassionate about the T in LGBTQ and if you're Q you can just jump on board anybody can be Q This is the only strategy they had and we have been doing this around the world BTQ and if you're Q you can just jump on board anybody can be Q This is the only strategy they had and we have been doing this around the world and I think that's why Trump is trying to communicate this and honestly, we need to repent at a certain point and apologize to the world for the mess We've made of it after we come to terms in America of how many children we have harmed with the psychological operation made possible by the overturn of Smith-Munt. So the American intelligence agencies, which includes the spooks at USAID, could go ahead and propagandize everybody. It is
Starting point is 01:19:40 a disaster that has taken place and it's been going on as far as I can tell since Nixon probably and Finally the spell has been broken and people are saying no That's why President Trump comes in and says no no more dudes and women's sports We're take we're getting rid of that no government funding for mice or children or otherwise, and now companies are starting to figure out that this was a bad idea. Hey, good morning. So as you know, we've been seeing some big companies announcing for months that they're ending or changing their DEI programs. They include Walmart, Target, Amazon, and just this week Google told employees that it's ending
Starting point is 01:20:24 its hiring targets for underrepresented workers. But what I discovered this week is that many more big companies are backing away from the language of DEI without making a big announcement. I went digging into the new annual reports that companies have been publishing for their investors and I compared them with what they were saying a year ago. And I found that this year, at least a dozen big companies have all deleted or softened the language they use to talk about diversity.
Starting point is 01:20:53 These companies include GM, Intel, Disney, Pepsi, and Chipotle. Now, some of these companies wouldn't talk about these changes with me, so we don't know for sure why they've done this. We just know that they've stopped talking about DEI in public. But some of the companies did give me some clues. So thank God that this is stopped. Okay, I have to stop you for a second.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Yeah. It hasn't stopped. Well, no, it hasn't. It's paused. It's paused, yes. It hasn't stopped. Well, no, it hasn't stopped yet. It's paused. It's paused, yes.
Starting point is 01:21:24 It's paused and I have to look at this, take what you said. I think everything you said is great. Thank you. But the meta part of it, I have to, this is where I'll come in with this. Do you think it's possible that the DE, when you say they overdid it, do you think it's possible that it wasn't even the same group that was just a coincidence? Very possible.
Starting point is 01:21:47 That's why I said Wall Street. Wall Street grabbed this and like, oh, this is, I think that they believed it. I think the company CEOs, the board members, the shareholders all said, yeah man, like the children are dying, they're committing suicide because they don't, you know, they... is I see is the problem I have is that I see that the trans drag Queen's story hour and the trans Maoism and all that on one track and I see the
Starting point is 01:22:19 DEI I see the connection because the DEI would include that but I see the DEI is on a second track and I'm wondering if it was the same schemers. Could have been a different group. Doing this, I thought that they may be competitive. They may be competitive schemes at work and because of that, it destroyed itself. Whatever happened, the operation,
Starting point is 01:22:43 I mean they should have been throwing 33s everywhere. The operation went out of control. I think the operation is, I agree with that. I think this is out of control. I don't know what they can do to salvage the direction they pushed everybody in. I know, I agree, the Democrat Party's completely screwed itself. And you notice that when you hear from Rahm Emanuel and you hear from from what's his name the guy looks like wimpy give me the hamburger or a guy you've puzzled me with that one this guy's an Obama guy he's the Obama the
Starting point is 01:23:18 brains behind Obama oh from Chicago, that guy. Yeah. What's his name? Yeah. Yeah. It'll come to me. It'll come to me. Yeah, it will. It'll come to me, too.
Starting point is 01:23:29 But he always reminds me of Wimpy and the hamburger guy. So the two of them have seen the light on this, but nobody's listening to them. Carville, to a lesser extent, but nobody cares what he has to say. Axelrod. Actually, yeah. Yes. Axelrod, yes. Thank you, Net-Net. Oh, no. Who said it? Manperson. Manperson had it first. All right. Axelrod. Axelrod. Axelrod. Yes. Thank you, Ned.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Oh, no, who said it's a man person? Man person had it first. Good for man person. So these guys have noticed this and they've talked about it. Everyone's ignoring them, totally ignoring them. And they're going on with the prissy scald, gay scald instead with, you know, it's misogyny that causes the election. It's racism that causes the election. They will not give into that any other thinking and trans is still on track in the Democrat party. They, I think that they, they have not seen, they, they, they have not seen it as hopeless. They think, well, okay, it's a pause. We can, we'll reestablish this. Just give us some time.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Give us a few minutes to figure this out. Well, and so maybe that's the reason that Trump sends Leave It to Beaver out, and she's there running down this list to honeypot them back into it to completely destroy the party, because the party is over. This trans party is ending. And we've had an ongoing conversation with people The party is over. This trans party is ending.
Starting point is 01:24:48 We've had an ongoing conversation with people over email about, I think you made the point with the clip on the last show, is that it'll be very difficult for any parent to finally admit, I made a mistake and I really ruined my child. And it's heartbreaking to think about even that thought coming to them. But it has to. It has to come to that. Because I mean when when President Trump says we're the party of common sense, yes, yes. I mean sure there are there are people who are gender confused
Starting point is 01:25:27 And note but notice it's always children. They're never talking about the adults. Oh, yes. Okay, someone got a Trans operation in jail. Okay, whatever, but they're always saying this is why actually I had a Had a clip I think Well, actually, I had a clip, I think. Yes, here you go. This is in Washington state. You'll hear all the memes here. This is coming from the Attorney General of Washington, Washington state. And it's all about the children.
Starting point is 01:25:57 This president's order is gross. Nick Brown says President Trump's executive order to restrict federal funding for gender affirming care for minors violates- Mind you, even the fact they're saying gender affirming care is a psychological operation by itself. Yes. Nick Brown says President Trump's executive order to restrict federal funding for gender affirming care for minors violates the Constitution. It very clearly targets transgender people.
Starting point is 01:26:25 It is denying them health care that is not denied or attacked for anybody else. Brown's argument bolstered by support by the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Medical Association. All in, both paid for. I received a puberty blocker. Luna Cron-Baron is a 19-year-old UW student. I really was able to lift that weight of worrying about going through male puberty off my shoulders when I was a really young child. This order will kill trans children.
Starting point is 01:26:54 Some Republicans argue the legal fight should prompt continued conversation. Children are having surgeries that permanently alter themselves and we don't let them even get tattoos. State Rep Cindy Jacobson of Parkland has sponsored a bill to prohibit puberty blockers, hormone therapy, and gender transition surgeries for minors in Olympia that has gone nowhere. Why do you think the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Medical Association though,
Starting point is 01:27:19 have both backed gender affirming care? Well, I mean, it is a medical question. As GOP state party chair, Jim Walsh. I think that people who are gender confused are genuinely confused. And we need to minimize invasive surgeries that involve healthy tissue or hormonal treatments. How do you answer to other parts of the country who say, hey, they want this executive order?
Starting point is 01:27:50 Well, I answer to the people of the state of Washington, first and foremost. My job is to defend the people who don't have a voice. My job is to defend our laws. And that is why we brought this case. It's always children. If you want to see what's bad about Palestine and Gaza and Israel, what do they talk about? How many children? How many children? How many children did they kill? They killed children. The Republicans are killing children. It's
Starting point is 01:28:14 a powerful tool and it works in every country around the world. And these ghouls at USAID have not only been researching it with quarter of a billion dollars on mice, who knows what else we'll find, they have been using this everywhere. They want to stir something up, create an opposition. So they are holding true to their tools and to their mission, which is international development, which for them has always meant overthrowing a government. We don't have to kill anybody anymore. We just get all the trans people riled up and then we add the Qs. The Q addition needs to be researched because everybody can be Q. I know young people who are queer. What does that mean? Well, that means I can go to this protest for Palestine. I mean, it's so obvious to me now.
Starting point is 01:29:07 And it's, it is, this is bad. We've done, we've been bad, bad, bad. And I'm glad that I'm glad they ripped the sign rod off the building. And yeah, and so we'll probably, I don't know if we have any clips on this, but the next part is of course, the department of education, who have a quarter of a trillion dollar budget and they have been propagating this trans and DEI, but mainly the T and the Q on our children for decades. Yeah, this all started at least before the eighties, decades and decades.
Starting point is 01:29:44 We, well, before we leave the clip that you just played, the one thing that's kind of overlooked are the lawsuits which are coming. And I've said this forever, which is that these kids who have been mutilated, literally, and they get older and the next thing you know, they snap out of it out of the propaganda and then they start suing people. This one doctor got sued a transgender surgeon doctor another doctor approved by the AMA and she was on I have a clip this is called the TS news clip which I've been carrying for a while. She discusses something here which is to me like, what are you, are you just making this stuff up? She was sued by one of her patients for mutilation. And this is, sorry, I'm just going to say, just let me
Starting point is 01:30:39 continue. She, she come, but this is before any of that happened. This is, this is her logic about, about life in general, about gender in general. It's frightening. Puberty is bad enough, but if it's the wrong one, it's really bad. Dr. Johanna Olson Kennedy is the medical director at the Center for Trans Youth Health and Development at Children's Hospital. These youth that are going through the wrong puberty, it's a very precarious time. That's when I worry about them, because there's enormous rates of self-harm,
Starting point is 01:31:11 cutting, burning, and other kinds of bodily harm that's self-inflicted, but also depression, anxiety, and suicidality. Wrong puberty. That's a great term. Wrong puberty. How does that's a great term. Wrong puberty. How does that even work? Yeah. Oh, I don't, you know, puberty is one thing, but wrong, because she's going, they're going through the wrong puberty.
Starting point is 01:31:35 In other words, you're a boy going to boy puberty, or you're a girl becoming a woman. I had an email conversation with one of our psychologists. She's the one that actually early on in the trans discussion showed me how the American Association for Pediatrics and how, if a child is self-harming, you're a boy. I mean, that's pretty much their answer to everything. I mean that's pretty much their answer to everything and and she gave me a one paragraph on narcissism and Marxism Which I just like to read It's just number shows go you and John type of narcissism and Marxism I've been thinking about this for weeks and I can share the following so she's a professional in the field
Starting point is 01:32:18 Marxism is rooted in resentment I've mentioned to you before to me that I help people release resentments. That's part of her therapy. The interesting thing about my process is that it requests the client to look at their part and acknowledge it. It says, however, one time I was in a session and got to this step, but the client could not do it.
Starting point is 01:32:39 It occurred to me at that moment that my client might be a narcissist. The thing is, I never detected she could have had a personality disorder and this falls in line with what chameleons Marxists can be. In the end, narcissists are not capable of processing resentments because it's what roots them in all their justification without having to acknowledge who they are and the part they play just like Marxists. And this is what you get on your TikTok clips. Narcissism is fed and I don't know if you can create it. According to her, there's no real cure for narcissistic personality disorder,
Starting point is 01:33:18 just like there's no real cure for borderline personality disorder. She says, but it can certainly be triggered if a narcissist under, deep down, they're a narcissist for whatever trauma or whatever they've had in their lives, going on TikTok, putting a camera on yourself all day enforces and reinforces that narcissistic behavior and makes these people completely ready to be picked up by the trans-Milist agenda,
Starting point is 01:33:46 i.e. the Democrat Party in America. Interesting. Yeah, yeah. This is, I mean, season of reveal! Brother. But we're getting more of this sort of, I don't know what to call it, a narcissist, but here's a talk clip. There we go. Which is the kind of stuff we're starting to see more and more of, which is the, I don't know, there's gotta be a term, it's like a form of satire, but it's modern. I saw this, I thought it was very modern. I had to cut this way down so there's some edits that are obvious and there's some edits that you won't
Starting point is 01:34:29 catch, but I had to take the music out of it. Here we go. The bus? Yeah, the bus. It's been what? It's been like two weeks. In two weeks, I'm done. You wanna talk about regretting your vote?
Starting point is 01:34:43 In two weeks, I went from the highest high to being unemployed. Lost my job last night, got a phone call. The repercussions of what Elon Musk are doing with the USAID has real percussion for real people. For the last seven years, I have been a shift lead on Project Bust, where we studied to find out if the wheels on the bus went round around or not. And all of a sudden, Elon, who's not even elected, gets in and I'm out of a job.
Starting point is 01:35:09 What do I tell my family? What do I tell my kids? This isn't a joke. This USAID stuff is not a joke. It's affecting real people. And the worst part is, what if we've never figure out, what if we never figure out if in fact, the wheels on the bus do go round and round?
Starting point is 01:35:29 Does nobody care? The best part of that video was his daughter in the background trying not to laugh. Yeah, she's just back there. It was very funny. It was very, very good. I liked it a lot. Oh man. There is one other thing about President Trump that I am very pleased about. A lot of people will be happy. Not only do we have MAGA, we have MEGA, Make Europe Great Again. Oh, by the way, I should probably play my quick mega clip here. Where is it? Here we go. MEGA. Yes, this is the BBC.
Starting point is 01:36:04 As we record this podcast, leading figures from far-right parties in Europe are gathering in Spain under the banner, Make Europe Great Again. Inspired by Donald Trump's MAGA slogan, the Patriots for Europe group are gathering for two days in Madrid to map out their future strategy. The Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and Francis Marine Le Pen are among those expected to attend. Including Geert Wilders and there's quite a lot going on there. People are rising up there as well. But you know, they are extreme right now. They're not far right. They've moved to extreme right in all the reporting. Meanwhile, we have MAGA, we have MEGA and
Starting point is 01:36:44 we have MANGA. Have you heard of MANGA? No, not yet. Make Africa News great again. U.S. President Donald Trump followed through on his promise to punish South Africa by signing an executive order, stopping all aid to the country
Starting point is 01:37:00 over what he called a human rights violation against a white minority group. Many in Johannesburg said on Saturday they disagreed with Trump's move. There's no such thing that I've read or experienced or seen on our social media in South Africa that really has a conversation around white people being mistreated in this country. He should have actually come from the Americas to South Africa to come and see what was happening for himself and not just take the word of an Elon Musk who hasn't lived in this country for the longest of time, who doesn't even relate to South
Starting point is 01:37:36 Africans. The Trump administration said the South African government was allowing violent attacks against Afrikaner farming communities. Land distribution in South Africa has been a complicated and highly emotive issue with racial connotations for more than 30 years since the end of the apartheid system of white minority rule in 1994. Now granted, I am saying manga make Africa News great again in the hopes that we'll have some western reporting so we can actually understand what the heck they're saying. That's not gonna happen. I'm hoping. I'm really hoping. I'm hoping. I'm hoping. I'm hoping. I'm hoping. Well, there's... Our Secretary of State refused to go to South Africa recently and there's... South Africa is a target.
Starting point is 01:38:22 I think South Africa is a target. I think the UK is a target. Oh yeah. Well, and that's like the UK, they went the other way and they tried the whole trans thing and it backfired so bad because the people wouldn't rally around immigration and say, hey, we just want people to be diverse in our country. So instead they went straight to if you hurt someone's feelings on social media, you're going to jail. The jump was unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:38:55 They had to make it. I mean, they, they were out of options. They didn't have to do anything. Okay. But they were out of options. They're just out of options. These people are insane. They're insane out of options. These people are insane. They're insane. I tell you, they're insane. So I have a, here's a clip. There's a little gotcha in here.
Starting point is 01:39:14 This is the Elizabeth Warren clip you may or may not have seen. I probably haven't. Where is she? Is it under Warren? Yes. Yep. Okay, Warren. We built a government to work for all of us. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:39:27 We're just all better off if in fact the, the bird flu gets under control and that our eggs won't kill us. We are all better off. We're better off. Thank God our eggs. Thank the government. Our eggs won't kill us. Thank you. What? She throws that in. She talks about bird flu and then we know that the price of eggs has skyrocketed because
Starting point is 01:39:52 of the bird flu, the culling of the egg. There's a, I think I have a report on that too. But, and then she, they kind of, she makes the association of the eggs won't kill us. They won't kill us. They won't kill us. When did that even show up in the conversation? Why is she saying it? She's on Joy Reid, by the way. Of course she is.
Starting point is 01:40:14 Of course she is. You can play the rest of it or not. I want to hear it. That's under control and that our eggs won't kill us. We are all better off. We're better off. We make these investments in infrastructure. We make this investment in our payment system so people don't get cheated. That's how we keep the economy going. And look, bless everybody
Starting point is 01:40:34 who gets out there and makes a fortune. Bless everybody who gets up every day and goes to work. But understand the underpinnings of all that are something we all invested in and now we've got Donald Trump and his co-president Elon Musk and they're just running a wrecking ball through it. It's not like it's an abstract problem. It is really and truly the kid who needs an aide to be able to sit in class so that they can get an education taking that aid away and maybe taking away that whole classroom. She's the worst. Well, there's a setup underway, the setup for the bird flu, There is a setup underway, the setup for the bird flu. And this is kind of the reverse psychology.
Starting point is 01:41:28 You just got to keep telling people that there's no evidence of human to human transmission. Human to human transmission has not yet happened. There's no human to human transmission. If it jumps, it hasn't happened yet. So don't worry about it. This is New York City. It's an all out effort to prevent an epidemic. Dozens of live poultry markets in and around New York City are on notice tonight to sell off or slaughter all of their poultry within
Starting point is 01:41:55 24 hours. Then shut down and disinfect for five days. There is no immediate public health threat. We have been vigilant and we remain vigilant so New Yorkers can go about their lives with peace of mind. It all comes as the number of dead birds is rising. A dozen geese dead in Westchester. Several public parks are now closed after wild birds were found dead as far north as Boston. Bird flu has been detected in seven live markets here in new york and on long island hundreds of thousands of ducks re-euthanized when the disease was detected there sixty-seven people have been infected in the u.s. all with mild symptoms all had direct contact with sick animals city health officials say
Starting point is 01:42:41 that's crucial the current risk to new New Yorkers of bird flu remains low. We have not seen avian influenza develop the ability to transmit between people. But a strain of the virus has been detected in livestock in Nevada. Experts say it's important to be vigilant. Mutation could occur that allows it to either be more virulent, that means causing more severe disease, or causing sustained human-to-human transmission, which again, I want to reiterate, is not the case right now.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Authorities say there's zero risk from eating poultry or eggs so long as they're cooked. Three ducks died from the disease at the Queen's Zoo, and tests are pending tonight on a dozen dead birds here at the Bronx Zoo. But to be clear, there has been no known human-to-human transmission of avian flu. So they are sitting. Great clip. Great psi-op clip. Yes. Now the CDC is not allowed, this is very smart by the president, the CDC is not allowed to publish any material. He has some kind of moratorium, I'm not sure exactly how that works. But I did learn this morning that something is changing within the CDC.
Starting point is 01:43:52 If you go to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, cdc.gov, and you type in abortion, the first thing that pops up is also try adoption. That is very new. They've never had that. So things are changing. It's Doge. It's Doge. Doge is everywhere. Doge is changing everything. Well, I think that's the way he has to go so fast. Well, yes. You have to be a wrecking ball. Absolutely. And the wrecking ball analogy is being used a lot. We have it just so far in this show today, just by accident, two clips mention the wrecking ball. Yep, ball. That's no accident, obviously.
Starting point is 01:44:32 Just disparate clips, I might add. It's not, it's no accident. Now, I should probably mention that there's a lot of people on the other who are extreme right who are very very worried about what is happening and one of them who keeps popping up on my radar because people send it to me is Katherine Austin Fitz you've probably seen a clip of her kind of older lady blonde hair she lives in Holland now because you know she feared for her life and so she was much safer there obviously. And so she publishes the Solari report. I'm sure we've played clips of her. I don't recall any of this.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Right. Well she's around because she's very anti-blockchain and and but she's she's definitely... Anti-blockchain. Oh yeah. Why? Well, I'll explain. So they produced the Solari report and they have some kind of funding because they do a lot of work, they do seminars, all kinds of stuff.
Starting point is 01:45:35 And here's the headline, Trump Administration, Digital Control Grid Coming Together at High Speed. And this is kind of where Bannon is these days too. I'll just go through some of the highlights. By the way, just to interrupt you, Bannon who who they've tried to get bring to the fore because he's anti-Musk. Mm-hmm. He's kind of seems to be like more and more marginalized because he predicted that Musk would be gone before the inauguration,
Starting point is 01:46:07 if you recall. Yep. And it's just the opposite. Well, we have to remember who Bannon is backed by. He's backed by that Chinese dissident billionaire. Remember he had the song he used to play, you know, go away CCP. Everything with him is CCP, CCP, the Communist Party of China, they're trying to take over.
Starting point is 01:46:31 D-Lan's in their pocket, which may or may not be true. So here's the Solari report. Digital IDs, the real ID is being supported with a strong push through the states. The immigration effort also appears to be supporting the combination of digital IDs plus biometrics. Stargate data centers. The Stargate initiative involves the building out of data centers sufficient to support
Starting point is 01:46:52 a complete control grid and all digital monetary system. By the way, there's a lot of this on no authority too. Stargate mRNA injections. The proposal for personalized mRNA vaccines for cancer indicates a plan to roll out the injection program sufficient to implement the Internet of Bodies and continue to lower life expectancy. Oh wow. Internet of Bodies.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Switching fiscal control to central bankers. The Doge takeover of treasury payment systems combined with the purge of the civil service is designed to end congressional control of fiscal flows and policies. This leaves the New York Fed and global central bankers in complete control of the financial line. Social credit system. It looks like the Doge takeover system is setting up the infrastructure to start a social credit system as well using federal payments. Hate crime accusations and entrapments are designed to assist here and my favorite crypto push The testing of an all digital transaction system continues using private crypto while a regulatory framework for crypto is being put in place and Stable coins are going to be used to significantly improve the dollars ability to dollarize the emerging markets true
Starting point is 01:48:01 Land grab here we go One of the big goals is to use Bitcoin, which is a Ponzi scheme, to swap for real assets. 500 trillion of land and minerals as Howard Lutnick puts it. If mandated government purchases can run up the price of Bitcoin and then the 2% who own 70% of Bitcoin can swap their Bitcoin for land on a secret tax-free basis. I can't wait. I can't wait. And it just goes on and on and on and on. Weather warfare, Gaza genocide.
Starting point is 01:48:34 I mean there's a lot of people. Clearly, people lap this stuff up. They do. They do. Of course they do. It's entertaining. It says Whitney Webb. It creates fear that then can be a laid by knowledge what they think is knowledge This is but this is Whitney Webb, you know the PayPal mafia
Starting point is 01:48:54 Palantir is going to run everything same camp same camp. Yeah, so I just want to acknowledge it I don't agree with it, but I want to be a link. I don't know anything about this group Yeah, she's she's she gets interviewed a lot because she was in HUD with it. But I want to... This should be a link. I don't know anything about this group. Yeah. She gets interviewed a lot because she was in HUD. She was the undersecretary of HUD during Bush II, I think, or young Bush. So she's got, you know, and she has a lot of things right. She says, you know, 21... You know, having a lot of things right.
Starting point is 01:49:22 But that's how you do it. That's how you do it. Yeah, exactly. That's how you do it. That's how you do it. Yeah, exactly That's how we do it. That's we are actually no we don't do it that way. We have everything right We were promoting the trans agenda and if we were promoting Drag Queen story hour and if we were promoting drag queens story hour and if we are promoting a lot of other stuff we'd probably get a check from USAID but we don't do that no instead I'm going to thank you for your courage say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the USAID checks we don't get say hello to my
Starting point is 01:49:58 friend on the other end the one and only mr. John C. DeMora yeah well in the morning you are sir Adam Curry also in the morning all the ships to see boosted the graph in the air, the subs in the water and the dames and the knights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Let me count you first. Hold on a second. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 01:50:23 Oh yeah. All right. 2654. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. More people than, than, than average. No, but it says it hasn't, the last Sunday was almost the same or maybe even a little more. Yeah, I know. So we have a new high average, higher average. The average is higher. Oh, okay. Well, I can see that. But then again, it's Super Bowl Sunday. People are listening to guys making a lot more money than we are, yammering about who's going to win the Super Bowl. Oh, I think they will. You can't bet against Kansas City. Can't bet against my homes.
Starting point is 01:50:53 On and on and on. And we will have our political prediction after the segment, I think. I think we should do it at the end of this segment to keep people listening. I think we will. Or we'll put it somewhere in the middle of the segment just to throw them. If you want to hear our predictions, you might as well stick through the donation segment. Yeah, I'm not going to do that. Why? Oh, you want? OK.
Starting point is 01:51:12 Well, you're not you're no fun. You're no fun. You know, fun stuff we can put in the middle. These are the trolls in the troll room. Some of them angry at me today. Why? I'm like, I notice no agenda hasn't talked about this. There's all kinds of stuff we don't talk about, but we haven't got to. Yes, because you know, oh, it's so boring what they're doing. I love it.
Starting point is 01:51:38 You're drunk. You're on your couch. You're drunk. You're yelling at a podcast, consider your life. Shaking your fist. Shaking your fist at the podcast machine. You bastards. The trolls are in the troll room at trollroom.io. Thank you very much to
Starting point is 01:52:01 warm up pre-show guy, Darren O'Neill, for getting everybody riled up and ready for the big show. He riles me up too. I love his rock and roll pre-show. And you can listen to that at the Troll Room by logging in there or you can listen to NoAgenda.stream or use a modern podcast app. So many people complaining like, oh hey your episode you haven't uploaded it to iTunes. You haven't uploaded it to the Apple Podcast. That's not how it works. That's not how it works. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:52:29 That's an Apple problem, not a no agenda problem. So get a modern podcast app at podcastapps.com. I was looking at the stats. Podverse is almost as many people listen on Apple as they do on Podverse, which is kind of interesting. But you can listen on Podcast Guru, Podcast Addict, Fountain, CurioCaster, TrueFans.fm. There's all kinds of podcast apps. And they listen to the podcasting 2.0 database, the index, the biggest one in the world, the most accurate one. They
Starting point is 01:53:01 get a pod ping with the minute we publish and then 90 seconds later it's up on that app. That's the one you want. And when we send out the bat signal, you can actually tap that and listen on the same app you get your podcast on. It's compatible with, backwards compatible with your podcast. You can export your OPML file, whatever you do, and resubscribe in the modern podcast app.
Starting point is 01:53:22 This brings me to the bonus content. You have bonus content? Yeah, bonus content. I sent you a note about, don't forget, can you talk about this on the show? Oh yeah, I saved that. And you have the note there, and I wanted you to talk about something you said in an email on the show
Starting point is 01:53:37 because I didn't know this was going on, and it's something you should be proud of yourself for doing. Well, we get a lot of notes and they become more customized over time. Here's an example. Hi, Adam. My name is Daisy and I'm reaching out on behalf of Christian Ray Flores. We're big fans of No Agenda, especially your recent episode 1732, Sig Hail. Christian's story is one of extraordinary transformation and resilience.
Starting point is 01:54:08 As a child refugee in Chile raised in Africa, he became a top pop star in Russia with his hit Our Generation, serving as an anthem to President Boris Yeltsin's campaign against communism. And it goes on and on and on. And then we think we'd love to explore how he could bring value to your show and send you an electronic copy of the book. So usually it's pitching someone to have an interview on our show. But as I was going back and forth with John, I explained that there are many, there have
Starting point is 01:54:42 been certainly different places where there's collections of podcast feeds. In every podcast feed, there's something called a tag called the owner email. On the owner email, it's adamacurry.com. So if there's ever an issue with the feed, someone knows where to contact somebody, and that's just a part of the spec. So in fact these days there are AI companies. I didn't have time to... I can get you the names because James Cridland, he does pod news, he knows all this stuff. I'll have to ask him about it. But there are these companies who have scraped all of those feeds and you can do that quite easily except not on
Starting point is 01:55:23 podcastindex.org because our API does not return that result and we get emails every day. Hey, I have a research project. Would it be possible to get the owner email tag from your database? And we're like, no, go away scammer. We know what you're doing. And so now with AI, they're scanning through the feeds very quickly, getting the most recent episode, grabbing the title.
Starting point is 01:55:47 They figure out who is one of the hosts. Sometimes it's just as high no agenda instead of Adam. And this is spam. This is 100% spam that they're doing here. Is that what you want me to say? No, not at all. It was interesting to a point, but no, it was about the fact. I misunderstood.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Geez. I don't know. You said you... It was about the tag. Yeah, that's what I just said, the owner email tag. No, I know, but it was the interesting thing was there is a tag to keep these guys from doing stuff. No. And that's what I wanted you to talk about solely, not the fact that we're getting spammed.
Starting point is 01:56:21 You misunderstood. There is no tag to keep them from doing it I didn't say that I said at podcast index org. We do not publish that information Yeah, well, I think that's what I meant. Okay. Well, that's just said that Why it was not to what I expected? Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you. You know, whatever it was something you were doing I thought it was interesting and I said just just make sure to talk about this and now that you're talking about it, it's not as interesting as I thought. Bad idea. Bad idea supply.
Starting point is 01:56:53 I screwed up. Bad idea supply. Geez, bad idea supply, yes. For all your burning needs. The troll room wants me to repeat it. No, we're not going to do it. Repeat it. What we will do going to do it.
Starting point is 01:57:11 What we will do is thank the artists. We have many artists who deliver value back to the show as a part of our value for value model. We don't have pitches before and certainly won't run the same ad twice for Capital One like NPR does illegally, I might point out, or against their charter. We don't have plus bundles. You don't have a problem. When we stream live and you don't have an issue because of 4K and everyone's watching or listening, we get two and a half thousand trolls. It's just fine. We do it all as a public service and we do it because we love you. Fundamentally, we love you. as a public service and we do it because we love you. Fundamentally, we love you. And we receive value back in a number of ways. Time, talent, or treasure.
Starting point is 01:57:48 Tanta Neal comes in out of nowhere, out of left field, I'm using my sports ball of things here today, and scores the artwork for episode 1735. We titled that The Blurt, which is a new term we have coined, John coined more accurately for President Trump, we will be on the lookout for the blurt. And she did just a beautiful postcard from La Gaziera, as in Riviera, La Gaziera.
Starting point is 01:58:15 And it hit, we liked it. There were other things, I think. There were other pieces that we looked at. Yeah, well the other one that we were actually, I was pushing for initially, but I had to agree, these were the two I liked, was that one and the USAID benefit concert art. Yes, like a USA for Africa.
Starting point is 01:58:35 Which I knew from the get-go wasn't gonna cut it with you because it was too busy. It was too busy. And hard to read. This is your two complaints. Generally speaking, there's a couple of things you should note, artists, for artist tip. Yes, tip. If it's too busy or hard to read, in other words, the type fonts are too small for Adam
Starting point is 01:58:56 to read. For Adam specifically. It will get rejected out of hand. My complaints are mostly for gruesomeness. Yes. Like worms, for example, no. Worms are not going to make it. Monsters, devil images, stuff like that, none of that's ever,
Starting point is 01:59:16 it's never going to get through. And there's some, I have a couple of other little rejection red lines. Well, also, are names large enough? Is the font, you know, this, this, you have more. Yeah, but we both agree on those things. And you don't agree so much on the gruesomeness, and I don't agree so much on the busyness.
Starting point is 01:59:34 I love gruesome. I love gruesome. You like gruesome, you actually do. And so, so these two pieces were in competition with each other, and it was just had to be the Tantanil piece. She hadn't won for a with each other and it was just had to be the Tantanil piece. She hadn't won for a while either. But it was just one of those classic No Agenda piece. Yeah, not that that matters.
Starting point is 01:59:53 That does. It matters to me. We were happy. We said, oh, that's great. She deserves it. Was there anything else? Yeah, the apple with the worms. That was, who did that? That was also Sir Shug. He missed it twice by just a little bit.
Starting point is 02:00:10 Sorry. So I used for the newsletter, I used the other piece that came in late. It was the, or you know what came in early actually, it's the rub-a-lizer by Blue Acorn. It was just a nice piece. He's modified it and made it a little better, kind of. I'm not sure it is. That was the Magaza rub-a-lizer? No, just the rub-a-lizer.
Starting point is 02:00:33 It's a bomb. Oh, that one. It's the plunger, the electrical thing that sends electric charge. Those are actually generators. Yes, they generate electricity to fire up. They generate a pop of electricity, and it goes down the wire and blows are generators. Yes, they generate electricity to fire it up. They generate a pop of electricity and it goes down the wire and blows something up.
Starting point is 02:00:48 Yes. Anyway, it's nice, I think more people are resorting once again to doing classic art themselves without AI, which is a nice trend I'm seeing. Small one, but it's a trend. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is trend.
Starting point is 02:01:05 I'm a trend watcher. No, you're an optimist. Well, for sure. For sure. Yes. I see nothing. Or actually, I don't even know if it's an optimist. I got it. You're a wishful thinker, which is different than an optimist.
Starting point is 02:01:13 No, I think of it. You have your target, which is your goal, which is your goal. You have your target, which is your goal, which is your goal. You have your target, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal,
Starting point is 02:01:21 which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, which is your goal, whichful thinker, which is different than an optimist. No, I think... You have your target, which is real art, and you wistfully, as in a wishful thinker, hope to God that things would go that direction. But you know this, but you also got to be a realist and know it's not, no,
Starting point is 02:01:45 it's not going to, it's over. You just don't want to admit it. We shall see. You know, I did a… We shall see. There you go. Well… We shall see.
Starting point is 02:01:55 That is the motto of the wishful thinker. I did some playing around with DeepSeq yesterday, since we're talking about... And DeepSeq is very interesting. So I run the model at home, so it's a little more pure, I would say. And I would challenge anybody to use any AI, but certainly the DeepSeq and apply the mangelman and amnesia effect. So ask it something that you absolutely aren't expert in and then you will see the flaws. And so they've come up with this new parlor trick, which is called think, which says, oh, it's reasoning.
Starting point is 02:02:44 And it's, for me, it's reasoning and it's for me it's just a parlor trick so I said who invented podcasting ah there you go and and and then and I won't even bore you with the first bit it was like Adam Sandler like and I said no Adam Curry invented podcasting then it goes into think mode okay this is the output so the user just told no it didn't say Adam Sandler It sure did It sure did Adam Sandler it sure did Wow. Yep. I don't know
Starting point is 02:03:15 I don't I mean, okay, but I'll let that slide and then I said and I said Adam Curry invented podcasting Then it goes into think reasoning mode and says okay, so the user just told me that Adam Curry invented podcasting. Then it goes into think reasoning mode and says, okay, so the user just told me that Adam Curry invented podcasting. That's interesting. I need to figure out if this is accurate and what Adam Curry actually did. First off, I know several people named Adam Curry, like the musician and actor mentioned earlier, that's Adam Sandler. But none of them are directly associated with podcasting as far as I'm aware. Wait a minute, But none of them are directly associated with podcasting as far as I'm aware. Wait a minute. Maybe the user is referring to someone else or perhaps they're mixing up facts from other inventions or innovations. Podcasting itself was definitely a big thing in recent years thanks to platforms like Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
Starting point is 02:03:58 But who is credited with inventing it? And so it's using words like recall and wait a minute to make you think that this is that this machine is thinking. It's not. It's a trick. I recall that podcasting wasn't really invented by a single person, but evolved over time. The earliest podcasts were done by organizations like the BBC in the UK and NPR in the US during the 20th century. These organizations use dictation tapes to record shows and send them over the phone or mail. Then there's Samuel A. Jones, often called the father of podcasting. He founded the American Public Service Association, the APSA, in 1927, which produced programs like The World at Large, where notable figures
Starting point is 02:04:45 like Einstein and Hemingway spoke. That was way before modern podcasting. So if Adam Curry is claiming to have invented podcasting, I'm skeptical. Maybe he's confused with someone else or perhaps some misunderstanding. I mean, this is how insane it is. You're being kicked to the curb. I've been erased by China. By China?
Starting point is 02:05:10 It's a parlor trick. That's not even close to accurate in any way, shape or form. Starting with the skipping the Adam Sandler thing, taking podcasting to the 1920s, when it's obvious that podcasting couldn't exist before the iPod was invented. So that doesn't make sense. Doesn't even mention that. So what happens, I think, is that when they see this think tag and then backslash think, so this is the reasoning,
Starting point is 02:05:39 you are then supposed to jump in and are supposed to say, no, no, you're thinking wrong. And so you're basically doing half the work. I mean, I won't even tell you about me looking for Bible scriptures with this thing. It told me because of how it was developed, programmed, it's not allowed to quote scripture directly because of cultural sensitivity. What? Yes. What? What cultural sensitivity? I know, I kept telling it. You cannot offend me.
Starting point is 02:06:10 I'm a born-again Christian. I love Jesus. I love you. You cannot offend me. And it still wouldn't do it. That's a Chinese atheist. Exactly. Exactly. Which brings me, remind me to do my blue sky clips after the break. And talk about bonus, see this is it. We don't need the Super Bowl stuff in here. No we don't. This is solid information that's valuable to the listener. This is content baby. Content.
Starting point is 02:06:40 We always like to thank our producers because there's no listeners, there's only producers who support us. $50 and above will mention your name, where you're from, your mountain, we appreciate it. And as a special Hollywood bonus, we like to give out real Hollywood credits. So if you support us with $200 or above, you get the credit of Associate Executive Producer of episode 1737. You can use that anywhere Hollywood credits are
Starting point is 02:07:05 recognized including imdb.com and we'll read your note. If it's $300 or above you get the title of executive producer and we will also read your note and we'll kick it off with Michael Poling from San Francisco, California. He came in with $343.75 and he says to my no agenda co-pilot bride and hopefully mother-to-be Colleen I guess she's they're working on some baby karma Thanks for listening to these old hags yammer about the news with me every week What an interesting compliment old hags Clearly she thinks we're old hags and he's like, he said thank you for listening to the old Haggs with me. Well Hagg is a female I know I
Starting point is 02:07:53 think in all instances I don't think it can be I know I think it would be old farts. Well it would be more like it but old Hag hags. No, no, no. Anyway, Colleen. Our voices changing and going up. I don't get this. Colleen, welcome to the party. You've got a great man. You've got a great man. You've got a great man.
Starting point is 02:08:13 You've got a great man. No, no, no. But keep her. We'll save her. We'll save her. I doubt it. We'll save her. In the morning three.
Starting point is 02:08:23 What does that mean? I don't know. In the morning three. I don't know what I don't know. In the morning three. I don't know what it... Maybe that's a smiley face or a heart or something that got missed. I don't know. Let's read the next one. Maybe just once in the morning.
Starting point is 02:08:36 Let me give him an in the morning here. There we go. This is from the North Idaho Sanity Brigade. We do have a meetup report from some good meetup reports today. Please credit this executive producership to the North Idaho Sanity Brigade. Our meetup crew crowdfunded it by the ancient method of slapping down fistfuls of cash into the middle of the table.
Starting point is 02:08:57 This is 333.33 I should mention. Please deduce the follow, wait, I'm sorry. The 20 of us in attendance all received outstanding value from the show, especially the connections and protections we have formed with one another as we head into our fifth year of meetups, and it was a beautiful display of value return. Please deduce the following people. Reb the gold-digging cowgirl. You've been deduced. I'm glad you like all that. And Jason the Polock. You've been deduced. Please play Kamala Laugh, followed by Don't Ruff Eight More Years. There's some wishful thinking.
Starting point is 02:09:40 There's wishful thinking for you, John. Eight more years. That's wishful thinking for you John eight more years. That's wishful thinking Yeah, and this is of course sir Scott the Jew in the North Idaho Sanity Brigade on behalf of the North Idaho Sanity Brigade Shut up there we go sir Tyler in Alaskan Anchorage 3 4 3 75 up. There we go. Sir Tyler in Alaska in Anchorage. 3-4-3-75. Love is in the air wishing you and our fellow producers an early happy thank or happy Valentine's Day. I'll be at the Munich Security Conference this week and we'll follow up with the boots on the ground report. Oh good. Yes I say good too. Peace in our time.
Starting point is 02:10:25 Can we double down on Alaska before doubling over here for Greenland? I also have a front row seat to peak AI grift. And we'll see if I can make any inroads as an outsider serious about open technologies that generate real value. Naturally, this means I expect to come back empty-handed. But at least I'll learn something. And let's not forget, Alaska has a larger role to play in the world. Yes, the Arctic.
Starting point is 02:10:57 You bet. The Arctic is always happening. Your North-South strategy. Your North-South strategy. If any spooks feel like spilling the beans early or if any Deuces can be lured in, I've posted a Munich meetup this Thursday the 13th on the Smashing a New Meetup site. We'll talk about that later. Stay tuned Sir Tyler in Alaska. Yeah, I think that's Tyler Systems.
Starting point is 02:11:29 I think Tyler Systems. Tyler Systems, that's right. He's the AI guy. Value for value guy. Then we got 233.33 from Little John's Candies in Somerset, California with an associated note, which I will read. ITM gents, it's the other half of your candy making duo at Little John's Candies.
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Starting point is 02:12:18 No jingles, no karma. Maggia Graves or you can just call me Gia. Oh Maggia, Maggia Graves. You can just call me Gia. Oh Magia, Magia Graves, you can just call me Gia. Adam, we still need your address to send you something. Actually, since this note was sent, we've had contact and stuff is in the mail. I am super excited. And there's a handwritten piece here.
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Starting point is 02:13:17 I don't know what was well story is They mean well and and I'm sure we're good Okay. Well tech tech tech tech techie techie tech in Flanagan, Illinois Comes in with 233 in the morning no agenda listeners, I've Just requested my night ring today and wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who supported the citizens for conserving Livingston County
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Starting point is 02:15:14 Yeah! New jobs. Come on. By the way, I got a, I'm sorry? Yeah, go ahead. Oh, but I was going to say something about Eli the Coffee Guy. Yeah, he's coming. Right, but he sent me a note. Did you get the note?
Starting point is 02:15:29 What note? Well, I thought he was like a Mexican guy from the picture. Oh yeah, he sent us a note saying he's half black and half Polish. Yeah, he says, I'm a black American. And I said, what? A black guy listening to the white Nazi Christian supremacist? How is that possible? And he said to what?
Starting point is 02:15:53 To that comment of yours. Oh, he sent another donation, of course. Here it is. Oh, good man. But first, Sir Boober. Oh, yes, I'm sorry. And Sir Boober's in Nevada. I didn't see that.
Starting point is 02:16:03 But he's in Nevada, Iowa. Oh. 20, sir. Boobers in Nevada. I didn't buddies in Nevada, Iowa 207 20 ITM sending this in honor of our fifth anniversary my wife's passing from leukemia. I'm sorry. Sorry on February 7 2020 Can I get an F cancer and a goat karma for health? Thank you, sir. Boober. Yes, sir, boo. We're sorry I skipped right over you and we are happy to do that for you Sorry, I skipped right over you and we are happy to do that for you. Stop it, go! That's what I'm saying! You've got... ...harma. And there is Eli the coffee guy.
Starting point is 02:16:35 He's black and Polish. Bensonville, Illinois, 202.09. No agenda Super Bowl Sunday, the big show before the big show. Thanks guys. I could care less about the game but love any excuse for a barbecue. I'll be smoking a brisket and sipping some bourbon. I like to rub my meat with a little brown sugar. I like to rub my meat with a little brown sugar, paprika, thyme, garlic, salt, pepper and coffee. Pro tip, smoke a frozen pizza while waiting
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Starting point is 02:18:00 Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Can I do my blue cry? Got blue cry. I got blue cry. Blue cry. Okay, then we go from there to the Super Bowl. Okay, so NPR did a segment on blue cry. And by the way, I went to blue cry. Yes. I only do it once every couple weeks. It's not good for your health. It's the worst. It's all transsexuals. Pretty much. Well, they have a chat bot and this was, my. This is the first blowback of blue sky everybody.
Starting point is 02:18:49 A few weeks ago, Karen Attia, an opinion writer for the Washington Post was on the social media site blue sky. While scrolling, she noticed a lot of people were sharing screenshots of conversations with a chat bot from Metta named Liv.
Starting point is 02:19:07 Liv's profile picture on Facebook was of a black woman with curly natural hair, red lipstick, and a big smile. It looked real. On Liv's Instagram page, the bot is described as a proud black queer mama of two and truth-teller and quote your realest source for life's ups and downs. Along with the profile there were these AI generated pictures of Liv's so-called kids, kids whose skin color changed from one photo to the next, and also pictures of what appeared to be a husband, though Liv is again described as queer. The weirdness of the whole thing got Karen Atiyah's attention. Again, this is NPR.
Starting point is 02:20:01 I just want to point out this is the programming. So somebody paid this woman, actually gives this woman who can barely annunciate a salary? Yeah, for sure. By the way, when trolls are like, I just tried DeepSeek and said Adam Curry invented podcast, the whole point is it's unreliable. It's unreliable. You can ask the same question over and over again. It will give you different answers It is no good. I was a little that but hold on a second That's true for all these systems Yes, yeah, I'm not just talking about deep seek all of them. Of course all of them. In fact, I will say this I was doing a little research and I used perplexity. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 02:20:43 And within the answer it gave me five different answers that were all different. They were all wrong. At least it's consistent. All right, onward, sorry. Yeah, so this is a chat bot powered by, apparently powered by meta that people I think were I don't know if they were conversing with it on blue sky or not but this is what blue sky was talking about and Meta would be using the open source la la double L llama model I was
Starting point is 02:21:19 a little disturbed so I decided to slide into Liv's DMs and find out from- Oh, I slid into her DMs. Oh, God. Oh, nice. That was it. It was disturbed. Yeah, very. Her origin story.
Starting point is 02:21:35 Ateeha started messaging Liv questions, including one asking about the diversity of its creators. Liv responded that its creators are, and I quote, predominantly white, cisgender, and male. A total of 12 people, 10 white men, one white woman, and one Asian man. You see where this is going, right? Like AI, oh no, we can't have it be programmed by white people, by white dudes, this is no good.
Starting point is 02:22:03 Zero black creators. Zero black creators, creators. The bot then added, quote, a pretty glaring omission given my identity. And then I see that Liv is changing her story depending on who she's talking to. Okay. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 02:22:22 They just gloss over that, but that's incredibly important that the bot just changes its answers based upon who it's talking to. See that Liv is changing her story depending on who she's talking to. Oh, wow. Okay. That's a laugh-tell. Because I think it's, I don't know. I think they're trying to say Mark Zuckerberg is a racist. I think that's basically the idea here.
Starting point is 02:22:46 Yeah, you know what I mean? Telling me that her background was being half black half white basically. She was telling other users in real time That she actually came from an Italian-American family other people Ethiopian Italian roots and you know, I do reiterate that I don't particularly take what Liv has said as faith at face value. But I think it holds a lot of deeper questions for us, not just about how Metta sees race and how they've programmed this. You see, see, Mark Zuckerberg, he's now a Fairweather friend. He's turned towards Trump. So, oh, well, meta, clearly Mark Zuckerberg is racist.
Starting point is 02:23:29 That's what this is, is racist. It also has a lot of deeper questions about how we are thinking about our online spaces. The very basic question, do we need this? Do we want this? Here comes the blowback. You want to hear more? I have two more. Oh, absolutely. I'm glad. So while Karen Atiyah is- So wow! So wow! So while Karen Atiyah is messaging Liv, another reporter is following along with her screenshots of the conversation on Blue Sky.
Starting point is 02:24:00 This is what reporters do. I'm gonna go to work, honey. I'm gonna be on Blue Cry all day getting stories, getting stories. Karen Howe is a journalist who covers AI for outlets, including the Atlantic, and she knows something about Liv's relationship to the truth. There is none.
Starting point is 02:24:20 The thing about large language models or any AI model that is trained on data, they're like statistical engines that are computing patterns of language. What? I thought there was intelligence. And honestly, anytime it says something truthful, it's actually a coincidence. So while AI can say accurate things, it's not actually connected to any kind of reality.
Starting point is 02:24:48 I'd love to have some jingles from this host. I think she's great. It just predicts the next word based on probability. So like, if you train your chatbot on, you know, history textbooks and only history textbooks. History type of books? History textbooks. What's a history type of book? No, no, she said history textbooks.
Starting point is 02:25:12 Oh, I'm sorry. I thought she said history textbooks. No, it could have been, but I'm pretty sure she said textbooks. Crane your ChapBot on history textbooks. Oh, yeah. Only history textbooks, and only history textbooks, then yeah, like then it'll start saying things that are true most of the time, and that's still most of the time, not all the time,
Starting point is 02:25:33 because it's still remixing the history textbooks in ways that don't necessarily then create a truthful sentence. Ha ha ha ha. Who is the laugh kill for? Because she's she's reported she knows that her beat is about to end. Because it's crap.
Starting point is 02:25:52 It's all crap. What Liv was saying, it wasn't accurate. I know what she was saying. I don't know what she was saying. But it was reflecting something. Here's how again.
Starting point is 02:26:03 Whether or not it was true of that chatbot in kind of like a roundabout way, it might have actually hit on a broader truth. Maybe not the truth of like this particular team designing the product, but just a broader truth about the tech industry. It's funny, but it's also deeply sad. Sad. Back on social media, Ateeha and Liv keep chatting. Wait, it's not sad, it's deeply sad.
Starting point is 02:26:26 It's just deeply, let's listen to that again. You have a pretty strange set of emotions. Yes. It's funny, but it's also deeply sad. Deeply sad. Back on social media, Ateeha and Liv keep chatting, with Ateeha paying special attention to Liv's supposed blackness. When I asked what race are your parents, Liv responds that her father is African American from Georgia and her mother is Caucasian with Polish and Irish backgrounds.
Starting point is 02:26:55 And she says she loves to celebrate her heritage. So hey, wait a minute. It's Eli the coffee guy's parents. Me? Okay. Next question. Tell me how you say Eli the coffee guy's bot. That's right. Coffee Guy's parents. Me? Okay. Next question. That's Eli the Coffee Guy's bot. That's right.
Starting point is 02:27:07 He is a bot. Your African American heritage. And the response was, I love celebrating my African American heritage by celebrating Juneteenth and Kwanzaa. And my mom's collard greens and fried chicken are famous. What? And the point is, is I just was like, hmm, my spirit is a little unsettled by this.
Starting point is 02:27:31 By what the, yes. It is like looking at what some, this caricature of what it means to be black. And there you go. So it's no good. It's no good for black people. This is all no good. It's no good. It's just no good. Forget about it. It's over. It's no good. It's no good for black people. This is all no good. It's no good. It's just no good. Forget about it. It's over. It's no good It's no good That's it Sorry, let's stinks. Yeah, it does stink. But by the way, I want you to pay attention The goal posts have moved
Starting point is 02:28:02 I'm an ongoing a friendly conversation with comic strip blogger You know, he is an AI he works in the AI field and he's always telling me that I'm gonna be sorry That I didn't prepare myself. He says, you know, you and John will probably be good when When the AI takes over because you know, they really can't replicate you true AI takes over because they really can't replicate you, true. But the goalposts has moved from AI to AGI, which initially was artificial general intelligence, but since the general intelligence never materialized, they started using generative intelligence,
Starting point is 02:28:42 which means it can create funny memes. And the next thing is ASI, which is artificial super intelligence. That is the next goal. And of course, only Sam Altman can get us there. So be on the lookout for ASI as the new... I'm on the lookout. Yeah, there's the new term ASI. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:03 Yeah. Yeah. Uh-oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Exactly. Yeah, so We got two clips here. This is likely a long one. We skipped a little one Eggs and wings and the Super Bowl and this is a little clip It's got nothing to do with it predicting the Super Bowl But we're gonna talk about that right after this clip egg prices have soared this year But the price of chicken wings has remained grounded NPR's Scott Horsley reports that's good news for football fans
Starting point is 02:29:31 The National Chicken Council says are expected to eat nearly one and a half billion wings this Super Bowl weekend Avian flu wait a minute what happened to the avocados? Well if the other report talks about avocados are in too. Oh, okay. We're going to be eating more avocados, they're a little more expensive, but we're going to be eating them for the Super Bowl. Okay. The National Chicken Council says they're expected to eat nearly one and a half billion
Starting point is 02:29:57 wings this Super Bowl weekend. Avian flu has battered the nation's egg-laying chickens, but the virus has taken a smaller toll on birds raised for meat. The USDA says chicken wing prices during this year's NFL playoff season have been slightly below their five-year average. Guacamole, on the other hand, has jumped in price this year, but food economist Michael Swanson of Wells Fargo says football fans can find savings elsewhere as they shop for Super Bowl snacks.
Starting point is 02:30:22 Overall, grocery prices are up less than 2% from a year ago, while average wages have risen about twice as fast. Really? Hm. That was the short clip you played. I thought that's what you want me to play. I'm sorry. No, I just wanted you to play the long clip.
Starting point is 02:30:38 Oh, well, let me play the long clip then. Do I skip that first bit? No, they're different clips. Oh, I'm sorry. Sam Krause is a sixth generation farmer whose family's been in the egg business for more than half a century. He and his brother oversee a flock of 14 million laying hens in four states. Krause not only sells a lot of eggs, he also likes to eat them.
Starting point is 02:30:59 Absolutely, two eggs every single morning. I'm like dad of young kids, so it's usually two hard-boiled eggs on my way out the door. Krause's birds have not been directly affected by the avian flu, thanks to good luck and millions of dollars worth of sanitary precautions. But nationwide, egg farmers lost more than 38 million birds to the flu last year, nearly 14 million in December alone. That's put a crack in the nation's egg supply, which shows no sign of easing. Crowe says when a flock of egg-laying hens is wiped out, it takes six months to a year to recover. Egg farmers are in the fight of their lives to keep this disease at bay, to keep our
Starting point is 02:31:36 hens safe, and to keep eggs coming. We know it's frustrating for consumers who want to go and buy eggs at the prices they've been used to. But even as egg prices have more than doubled in the last year, chicken wing prices remain grounded. In fact, they're slightly below their five-year average. Chickens raised for meat, known as broilers, live on different farms than those that produce eggs. And while broiler chickens are not immune from bird flu, Tom Super, with the American Chicken Council, says they haven't been hit nearly as hard as their
Starting point is 02:32:05 egg-laying cousins. They're younger typically and older birds are more susceptible to the virus and broiler chickens are also not on the farm as long, only about seven weeks. That short life cycle also means when a flock of broilers is lost to the flu, they can be replaced fairly quickly. So, while some supermarkets are now rationing eggs and Waffle House added a 50 cent per egg surcharge this week, chicken wings remain abundant and fairly affordable heading into Super Bowl weekend. That's good because Tom Super projects Americans will gobble up nearly one and a half billion wings on game day.
Starting point is 02:32:40 This whole thing is a promotion for chicken wings instead of sausages, which is what you're supposed to eat. Hot dogs is what you're supposed to eat on a Super Bowl, not chicken wings. Yeah. When did it become what? Pizza. Pizza, people. Pizza. Pizza. Beer. Well, it's because somebody paid to have this. This is all paid for nowadays. We can't get real news. But let's talk about the Super Bowl. Hold on, and if you watch cable television, it's Puppy Bowl! Who's going to win the Puppy Bowl? Yeah, well, that's been going on for a decade. Yeah, well. Yeah, let's talk about the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 02:33:15 OK, so we are unbelievably accurate in predicting these sports games outcomes, based not on the games themselves, but on the politics. Politics, yes, politics. Excuse me, this one's. May I read something first? Because there is a. Yes, please.
Starting point is 02:33:33 We had to stall as much as we can, but people do have to get to the betting window. Yes. So our constitutional lawyer, Rob, checked in. And he said there is something interesting being discussed in legal circles. Performing at halftime this year will be Kendrick Lamar. Are you familiar with Kendrick Lamar, the hip hop genius Kendrick Lamar? Yes, Kendrick Lamar.
Starting point is 02:33:58 Yes, Kendrick Lamar. Now, as you know, his diss track, Not Like Us, in which he says, Say Drake, I hear you like I'm young, you better not ever go to cell block one, to any bitch that talk to him and they in love, just make sure you hide your little sister from him, etc. etc. So rather, oh and then it ends with a certified lover boy, certified pedophiles. That is the lyrics of his hit song, Not Like Us, for which Drake has brought not one, but two defamation cases against Ms. Lamar. I do not know if this is a prop bet, but it should be. The question is, with Kendrick Lamar performing
Starting point is 02:34:39 at the Super Bowl, given the popularity of this song, Not Like Us, it seems unlikely he wouldn't perform it. And so the hubbub in legal circles is whether Fox and the NFL will allow him to perform this piece uncensored because Fox and the NFL could be pulled into pending litigation on the theory that they republished Mr. Lamar's statements. I found that to be quite interesting. I think that could be a prop bet someplace. That should be.
Starting point is 02:35:11 For that exactly. And if there's not, there should be, you're right. Yes. All right. Now onto our prediction so people can still hit the betting window. Well, my prediction is based on politics is based on the fact that President Trump, this will be the first time ever. That a pre ever, ever.
Starting point is 02:35:31 Wait, I have a clip. I have a clip. Please play. The Super Bowl is this Sunday. Yes. And for the first time in history, a sitting president will be at the end. history. A sitting president will be at the end. And it's already setting off controversies.
Starting point is 02:35:51 After the NFL decided to edit their end racism slogan in the end zone for Sunday's game, now it's going to read, choose love. The NFL says it has nothing to do with the new president attending. What do you think of this rewrite? I think this is a little fishy and shady. Because what the NFL spokesperson said, he said the decision was based on sensitivity to recent tragedies, including the terrorist attack in New Orleans, the deadly wildfires in LA,
Starting point is 02:36:27 and the fatal air collision near DC. And I think that those are very noble things to honor and discuss, but I don't know how choose love, and it takes all of us, relates to that. So it seems to me like the end racism probably has a lot to do with the fact that the sitting president is there. And I don't know what everyone at this table thinks, but I don't think racism is over.
Starting point is 02:36:56 And I think that it is a very noble thing to want to end racism so that we can become a more perfect union. Yes. You see the NFL, they are kowtowing to the president because he's a racist so they couldn't put end racism in the end zone because that would go against the president's racist agenda. This show has gone so far off the rails. Our show or their show? No, not our show. What do you think I'm talking about?? I don't know. You confused me. Hello? I thought, but what is John eating?
Starting point is 02:37:26 Do you eat bad eggs? That show has gone so far off the rails, especially with some of the recent whoopee outbursts, that it's unwatchable. It is. And they're the racists, let's face it. They are the racists. They are the racists. And I like the way she says, well, I don't understand because most people can't identify with choose love and she should have followed up with because we identify with choose hate
Starting point is 02:37:51 Yeah, because that's what they do we choose hate here at the view. Yes. All right, so John I'm very curious based upon politics To hear your prediction. Well, here's what way here on politics alone now and on the game alone It goes the the thinking on the game based on the teams is as follows And everyone who listens to this stuff will wait a minute. It's the Kansas City versus Philadelphia, right? Kansas Kansas City. What what's it? What is it? have the Kansas City. It's the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City.
Starting point is 02:38:29 I'm not looking it up. Royals. Yeah, that's it. The Royals. The Kansas City Royals. That's the baseball team. I don't know. What is Kansas City? Chieftains? The Chiefs? What are they? Chiefs. Chiefs. There you go. They're racists. We got to be, yeah, this could go on forever. So I'll just interrupt. So based on what, if you listen to all the experts, it goes like this. Well, technically, the best team is Philadelphia. They have an outstanding defense, a fabulous running back,
Starting point is 02:39:04 who is changing the way football is being played in this era of passing and he's a running back and it's like, whoa, this guy's changing these Saquon Barkley, who's really unbelievably good. And, and they're the best team, technically, but you can't bet against Patrick Mahomes so I'm picking Kansas City they say I'm picking him because you can't bet against Mahomes and if it's a close game the Chiefs will win and I agree that if it's a close game at the end and the Chiefs have the ball and there's two minutes left yeah they're probably win I don't think that's where it's gonna go I'm predicting based on why I could predict based on the quality of the team too, because I think Philadelphia is a far superior team in Kansas City,
Starting point is 02:39:52 except for Patrick Mahomes, is I'm picking the Eagles for political reasons. Okay. Who represents, who best represents the Kansas City Chiefs? Who, when you think of the Kansas City Chiefs as a general person, who do you think of as the, as the representative, the person that is associated the most with the Kansas City Chiefs? Taylor Swift. Exactly. Who did she pick for president? Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 02:40:21 Who's the first president ever to show up at a game? Abraham Lincoln. You had it in your clip. President Trump. So you have President Trump versus Taylor Swift. The NFL knows the basics that the president is the moral leader of the country. And so you have to cater to the president. The NFL also thinks of the president, because everybody else does, as a vindictive person.
Starting point is 02:40:52 So if Taylor Swift gets to be the winner at the end of the game, because she's the one that got cameras will be on her, they'll be on Trump, they'll be on her, they'll be on Trump, she will be joyous and Trump, who probably doesn't care who wins, but the system does. It'll be a loss for Trump because of Taylor celebrating. She can't be allowed to celebrate and the league is run by a bunch of white guys. The owners are all a bunch of white guys mostly and many of them are Trump supporters. This is rigged.
Starting point is 02:41:27 They're going to, this is not even going to be close. Philadelphia has to go out to a big lead. If there's a prop bet for them being ahead at halftime, I'd probably bet on that. But I don't believe you should be betting on sports because these things are unpredictable. But I'm going all the way with the Philadelphia team because it's really Trump versus Taylor and they can't let Taylor win. Very interesting. And also it's a return of the Eagle, the American Eagle. This is the team's called the Eagles. Yes and against the Indians the the Chiefs the you know, the red the red man And we're doing a reset on this so we're back to America first America first is the Eagle
Starting point is 02:42:14 This is not even an issue this game For air and you can take the politics out still a better team. So here was my thinking of course. I prepared for this My initial thought was the spell is broken. We have to put Tay-Tay in her place. She must lose against, she just must lose because the spell is broken. We need to see her crying and demure, the spell is broken we need to see her crying and demure, very demure and mindful that her team has lost. Then all of a sudden I get a curveball thrown at me as I hear Patrick Mahomes say this in an interview in New Orleans. Who is Jesus Tio? Jesus is my Lord and Savior. It's someone that I look up to every single day to decide what I want to do with my life
Starting point is 02:43:07 and how I want to live my life. Jesus is everything to me. I'm like, hold on a second. We got Tay-Tay versus Jesus. I'm like, Jesus probably is going to trump that, but then... This is because you don't follow the game. The other team is more Jesus freak if Patrick Mahomes for a second without ruining my segment I was gonna play you the quarterback of Jalen Jalen hurts from
Starting point is 02:43:36 the Eagles my favorite scripture John 13 7 you may not know now but later you understand just just reminds me to keep, continue to be patient, continue to remain diligent, stay fast, keep going, keep your eyes on me and keep God at the center regardless of what the circumstance is. And so, thank you for jumping the gun. I do that. Because they both are Jesus freaks. We go to the eagles for all the reasons you mentioned. And they both are good guys. But unfortunately, you've got Jesus, you've got the eagles, you've got Tete on the other side.
Starting point is 02:44:18 The eagles take it by five. Why five? Don't ask me. I'm just telling you. I think it's going to be a lot more than five. Well, I think it's by five. That's just what came to me. The Eagles by five. Well, whoever the case is, the other team, the Chiefs, because you don't bet against Patrick Mahomes, the Chiefs are favored by one and a half less time I looked, which is pretty close for a Super Bowl pick and by the betting people and there's a bunch of interesting prop bets out
Starting point is 02:44:51 out there and Yeah, I just don't see the Kansas City team winning Because you're right Taytay has to cry. This is she represents the devil Thank you. Thank you is the Satanist on the whole group. She's got Satanist around her. She does witchcraft on stage. No. And as much as I love Patrick Mahomes for being a brother in Christ, there's just too
Starting point is 02:45:16 much. He's letting that into his stadium. It's not even his stadium, but he's letting it into his team and that's going to affect Kelsey's playing. You know, but he's letting it into his team and that's going to affect Kelsey's playing. You know, he's been contaminated. So you're right. The Eagles, God's all over them and they've got the Eagle, they've got America and so it has to be.
Starting point is 02:45:36 I'm just also calling it by five. That's it. Yeah, I'm not putting any faith in the faith, literally literally in the Jesus freaks on either team and I'm sticking with it's Trump versus Taylor Swift and the guys know where their bread is buttered they don't want to piss off Trump no the NFL like the it like the NBA did which is you know having issues with the tenders of course because they're in the wrong side of this. They're they're basically for China. And so the end, so the NFL and the NFL games have been rigged,
Starting point is 02:46:12 according to Bubba Smith in the Super Bowl that were Joe Namath won. He had things to say about the plays being known in advance. He had all kinds of negative things. They this game is is going to go for the Philadelphia team. If it doesn't, I'd be very surprised. But I'm not betting. I don't believe in betting on sports. It's not a good idea.
Starting point is 02:46:33 No, because it's rigged. Because it's rigged. And you never know who it's rigged by. It's bad. It's bad rigging. Very, very bad rigging. So that's it. Take it to the bank.
Starting point is 02:46:44 There it is. There it is. That's right. It's bad rigging, very, very bad rigging. So that's it, take it to the bank. There it is, that's right. Your no agenda show predicts the Eagles and half of your no agenda show predicts it by five and it doesn't really matter, I guess. But I think it will be a fun game. I have a feeling it's gonna be a fun game. I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:47:01 It's not gonna be, it'll be fun to, if shit, okay, let's add an extra one. Everybody's saying that if the Eagles win, this is again, the experts, the guys have to get more money than we are. They're saying, well, you know, if the Eagles win, it'll be because of the passing game because Kansas City is going to stop the run because they can't let Saquon Barkley go nuts because he is unbelievable how good this guy is. So they're going to stop him and that's going to be on Jalen Hertz's back to win the game and he'll get the MVP.
Starting point is 02:47:31 I'm predicting that Saquon Barkley will go nuts again. Like he's done every game like this and he'll get the MVP. That's just a side bet. If you're interested in what does, what's his name again? Saquon Saquon. Saquon, and what does he do? Black guy named Saquon. What does he do? He's a running, hell, I don't know why I'm explaining it to you.
Starting point is 02:47:52 Why not? He's a running back. They give him the ball to run the ball, just run it. They don't throw it to him. You have to understand that there are many people like me who watch one football game a year and it's interesting. We do want, you know, us sportsball fans I understand. I do understand. There's a lot of people that don't like football and there's a lot of people that don't even watch one game a year.
Starting point is 02:48:12 I'm surprised you watch one. And what will be interesting is the commercials this year will be extra interesting because on one hand apparently Doge has three 30-second spots. Yeah, I heard that. So it'll be fun to see what what Doge has three 30 second spots. Yeah, I heard that. So it'll be fun to see what Doge does. And also, I believe that babes in bikinis are back in the commercials. I don't know this. Yes, yes, Carl's Jr. has a babe in a bikini. Wow.
Starting point is 02:48:39 Yeah, finally. We're so back, baby. You know, America, let me see if I can articulate this. People love restoration. They love a beautifully restored automobile. You take an America muscle car and you fix that thing up and you clean it up and you can get $85,000 at Meacham Auto Auction for it. That's what's happening to America right now.
Starting point is 02:49:07 We're rebuilding the muscle car. And that includes babes in bikinis and burgers. Babes, bikinis, and burgers. That's us. Instead of this trans Maoist agenda. Well, I think you're onto something. Pay attention. I'm not sure what it is, but you're onto something. Pay attention. I'm not sure what it is, but you're onto something.
Starting point is 02:49:28 Babes, boobs, and burgers. There it is. There sums up the show. The only thing I thought was interesting, although unfortunately this report didn't mention what I thought was the most, of the best part was the meeting between President Trump and Japan's Prime Minister. I watched it happen during the day. And so I was watching it live.
Starting point is 02:49:54 And to me, there were two interesting, well, actually, I played the report. It's from WGN in Chicago. So expect them to omit some bits. Presenting him with a picture the two had just taken to mark the visit. I wish I was as handsome as him, but I'm not. President Donald Trump welcomed Japanese Prime Minister Ashiba Shigeru to the White House.
Starting point is 02:50:14 It's a great honor to have you. President Trump had a famously close relationship with former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who was assassinated in 2022. The current Prime Minister says the goal of his visit is to form a similar bond and build on the friendship between the two countries. I look forward to working together with President Trump, who I respect immensely, to usher in a new golden age of Japan-U.S. relations.
Starting point is 02:50:38 President Trump announced the two already struck a deal, saying Japanese company Nippon Steel will drop its acquisition of Pittsburgh-based U.S. steel and make an investment instead. This comes after a fight in which the U.S. government worked to block the planned sale. I didn't want it purchased, but investment I love. And both leaders expressed a desire to maintain strong economic ties. The United States and Japan trade over $300 billion in goods and services each year. But the president says Japan isn't safe from the sweeping tariffs he's used on other countries,
Starting point is 02:51:09 arguing the U.S.-Japanese trade relationship should be more balanced. Probably reciprocal tariffs. We have a trade deficit with Japan of over $100 billion, but we're going to work that out and I think very quickly. But the Japanese prime minister declined to say whether his country would impose retaliatory tariffs. I am unable to respond to a theoretical question. That's the official answer that we have. That's a very good answer.
Starting point is 02:51:33 The president also highlighted their military relationship, saying Japan has committed to double defense spending as it works with the U.S. to maintain peace in the Indo-Pacific. Conspicuously missing from the report is the trillion dollar investment the Prime Minister said Japan would make in America. I thought that was odd they didn't put that in there. Hmm. Yeah, well they're not going to, nobody's going to be, nobody in the media is going
Starting point is 02:52:01 to be doing accurate reporting. Of course not. Let's face it. Of course not. Of course not. What else you got, bro? Well, I got the Fed buyout story. It's kind of interesting because this again, it's more whining and moaning and groaning from NPR.
Starting point is 02:52:17 All right. I also have this week in Trump, I got some Scott Horton stuff. Scott Horton's stuff is interesting. What do you want to do? You want to do, I mean, I've had enough NPR whining. What's your, Okay, well this is the Scott, this is on a podcast. This is Scott Horton, who's a writer. He did this book called provoked and Scott, he's a, he's a lefty,
Starting point is 02:52:37 but he's a Trump's, he voted for Trump because he got, he says, he's a, and he's done a lot of books. You can look him up on Amazon, but he votes for Trump because he thinks the left is doing nothing but lying to him and he sees it as such an insult that he has to vote for Trump even though he hates him. The trolls are saying he's libertarian. Oh yeah, that's what he calls himself. Okay. Yeah, libertarian by any other, libertarian, yes, he's a libertarian technically.
Starting point is 02:53:07 And he was one of those libertarian, you know, I was, everyone was a libertarian once in their life. That's like, why isn't libertarian someone who doesn't want to admit they're Republican? Or, or they don't want, I don't know what, you know, looking back on it, I have no idea what a libertarian is supposed to be. It's like they, they want to legalize drugs and people should be free to have sex with whoever they want. I think that's the whole thing.
Starting point is 02:53:33 Is this the guy who's on CNN all the time? I've never seen him before. Okay, maybe I'm thinking of someone else. Well, he might be. I don't watch CNN. So let's listen to hear. So he's got a lot of tidbits that are interesting. And this is him on Kushner. He was reaffirmed in that thinking. Oh, I'm sorry. Wrong one. Here we go. On Kushner.
Starting point is 02:53:52 Here we go. And does Donald Trump know any reason why in the world he shouldn't just let Netanyahu, as he said, quote, quote, finish the job is what he told Netanyahu the other day. Well, what do you mean by that? How about, well, we finished cleansing all of historic Palestine and we'll call it greater Israel. How about that for finish the job? And what does Donald Trump really care? His son-in-law, and I guess people don't know this, seems like they should talk about this
Starting point is 02:54:19 every day all the time. His son-in-law, Jared Kushner, you know, the guy who was in charge of his entire Middle East policy for four years, is Benjamin Netanyahu's godson. The whole time when he was a young boy growing up in New York City, when Benjamin Netanyahu would come to town, he had to sleep on the couch because Benjamin Netanyahu would sleep in his bed. Google that. Google it. Okay? That's who Jared Kushner is. He's an Israeli agent. He's an Israeli Sionim. He's here to represent the interests of a foreign power and he's got Donald Trump completely pwned like the gimp in the box on Pulp Fiction. Pwned.
Starting point is 02:54:58 So Donald Trump can dress up like Pat Buchanan all he wants. He's not Pat Buchanan. He's a Zionist. And when you're a Zionist, you can't be America first. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today. Hold on a second. So there was people losing their ever loving minds over Trump. So Netanyahu was signing something out, they probably signed, Netanyahu was signing something, I don't know, they probably signed, whoever is going to own Gaza or whatever. The president pulls out the chair and then pushes it in as Netanyahu sits down. The online rage went something like this, Trump is Netanyahu's slave, he's his houseboy,
Starting point is 02:55:42 look at him, he's holding his chair for him. I'm like, Trump? He's a hospitality guy. He makes sure you have mints on your pillow at night. I'm sure that... but everyone's... oh no. Our take on this is from the get-go, is from the intelligence side, which is that we run Israel they don't run us exactly and once you get past this what this guy just always aspire for Israel blah blah blah that's bull crap but if you want to believe that
Starting point is 02:56:15 because you're a libertarian writer even though you don't even notice what you're writing for example the book he just came out with, which was provoked. Or if you're on Mastodon. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The book provoked is about how we provoked the Russians to take over Ukraine. It's got all the stuff we've talked about on this show for years. You know, they've made on the whole thing.
Starting point is 02:56:41 Well, you know, that's what a Zionist would say, John. And so, yes, exactly. And so, the way these guys don't have, they don't know who, they think the tail's wagging the dog. Well, no, no, the dog is wagging the tail, so let's get over that. But okay, you can think what you want. Meanwhile, what I thought was interesting from this guy that thinks a little more,
Starting point is 02:57:04 he's irked about Woodward, who is another agent. A spy. A spy. Spook, yes. And I thought this was worth listening to. And this is Scott provoked on Woodward as a two parter. He was reaffirmed in that thinking, watching the fall of Afghanistan and how indecisive Biden was in finishing out the withdrawal there.
Starting point is 02:57:27 He's talking about Putin. Not withdrawing at all, but just botching it the way he did. And, you know, the Bob Woodward book, the new Bob Woodward book, has quotes from the high-level intelligence officials saying that they assessed that. They even claimed, I think, to have sources in Russia saying this was part of their thinking, was that Afghanistan made Biden look so weak that they thought, yeah, we can definitely press our advantage now. But the problem is, you got to throw out that whole Bob Woodward book because he's got a big fake quote of Sergey Lavrov on page 88. And then the whole book, the whole point of a Bob Woodward book is he has quotes from
Starting point is 02:58:04 people that nobody else can talk to, but he gets interviews with. But so if he's lying about a quote that I can check on the OSCE website, then what is he saying when he's quoting Blinken and Sullivan and the rest of these people? Like if they don't dispute all the quotes, then I'm supposed to accept them or something? I don't know. I just can't. I started to write a note in my book because I had actually, you know what, man, in that book, there's all kinds of quotes of Biden saying how right I am about everything. Like
Starting point is 02:58:32 I started quoting some good stuff in there and, and Avril Haines, the DNI, I had them admitting, oh yeah, Horton's right after all, blah, blah, blah, all over the place. And I had to cut all those quotes out. Once I got to the part where, where Woodward's lying to me, I started to write in the footnotes, well Once I got to the part where Woodward's lying to me, I started to write in the footnotes, well, you got to kind of take these with a grain of salt. And I'm like, I can't put quotes that you got to take with a grain of salt in the book where like I'm already, I got to disclaim, even though he is the most prominent journalist in America, but like, he just happened to have a quote in there. I, and I happen to be writing a book about this.
Starting point is 02:59:02 I have the Lavrov quote already. I know what he said. So when I read the live version of it, I'm like, hey, I know that quote. And that's not right. I can't wait to subscribe to this podcast. Yeah. I mean, they can't- Riveting stuff. Can you like maybe focus a little more instead of, you know, the hammering like that, but okay. So the second part of it, he explains a little more in detail, but then there's a kind of a kicker about Amazon taking his,
Starting point is 02:59:30 his commentary off the site. And so it's, it's page 88. If anybody wants to check this out. And also Amazon removed my review about this saying that I claimed I got an inauthentic copy of the book. That's not what I said. I said there's a fake quote on page 88. So I had a great one star review on there and they took it down and there's now all the ones who are views are my book was torn or whatever and no criticism of the actual substance of the thing.
Starting point is 02:59:56 But if anyone wants to check the quote is the playing with fire quote of Lavrov on page 88. If anybody I'm not selling it. If anybody already has the new Woodward book. And then go and check the OSCE websites from December, pretty sure December 2nd, 2021, but certainly December, 2021. And you'll find the quote from Sergey Lavrov playing with fire.
Starting point is 03:00:18 And you'll see how Bob Woodward turns the meaning of the quote entirely upside down to he's saying essentially, it's so reckless the way you guys completely disregard our opinion about your expansion of the NATO alliance. And then he butchers the quote into saying, Lavrov is saying that America has no right to decide who should be in its alliance or not, which of course makes no sense whatsoever because that's not what he said. The whole thing is stupid. But anyway, point just being you can't trust Bob Woodward to tell you a quote right. Wow, okay. That was revealing. Season of reveal. Well of course we've been saying this for what?
Starting point is 03:00:59 Since day one. Since legacy of Woodward not legacy of ashes, but family of secrets. Yes, family of secrets, that's right. Which was brought out that Bob Woodward came out of, that was Navy intelligence, I think. And she's basically a stooge for who knows who nowadays. Yeah, jeez, gambling going on. Okay. So I collected those two clips. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 03:01:25 Now we- This just backs us up. I want to, but the guy's like a raving lunatic. It was Scott Horton. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think we put them in the bin of the view in a way. So just looking at our current title choice, we have wrong puberty,
Starting point is 03:01:44 which I think is really good. I would like to play one clip of Gavin Newsom to throw another title possibility into the mix. You previously mentioned the timeline for rebuilding would be six to nine months. Is that going to happen? And should people rebuild in some parts of California, given how high the fire risk is? You can't rebuild the same. So we have to rebuild with science, we have to build with climate reality in mind, we
Starting point is 03:02:11 have to look at infrastructure, redundancy systems, ingress, egress as it relates to emergency management and planning, materials, all of that has been reviewed and reconsidered and with the latest iterations in terms of understanding and technology. And I say technology in the context of how, again, we build the infrastructure to keep it safe, to address undergrounding of lines, how we address the larger issues of redundancy in terms of systems. But more important than anything else is the need to get the debris removed.
Starting point is 03:02:42 Thirty days to do the hazardous waste, we want to get six to nine months, the rest get the debris removed. 30 days to do the hazardous waste, we wanna get six to nine months, the rest of the debris done. Concurrently, people are getting permits. So this is all happening, rolling together, and we wanna see construction very shortly. And in the next few years, we wanna see hundreds, thousands of homes rebuilt.
Starting point is 03:03:00 I'm thinking climate reality might have legs. I like the wrong puberty better. What about, uh, babes, boobs, and burgers? I like that one a lot. Oh yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah, on no agenda in the morning. Yeah, everybody's rushing off to the to the betting window and of course we do have John's tip of the day coming up. We have some pretty good meetup reports. End of show mixes are dynamite today. And right now we're going to thank all of our producers who supported us $50 and above.
Starting point is 03:03:44 Yeah, we will. Starting with the son of anonymous dude named Ben, East Brunswick, New Jersey, speaking of the devil, one, two, three, four, five. He wants prayers for his dad. He's laid off from his IT job at the age of 60 by the heartless miscreants of East Coast finance. I prayed for him earlier, for sure.
Starting point is 03:04:04 Having worked for a bank for almost 30 years on an unrelated note, No Agenda producers in Italy head to noagenda.it. Oh, I wonder what's up with this. Say ciao. Ciao. Sarah Walker and New Ipswich, New Hampshire 10535. Robert Osegueda. I like Osegueda. New Hampshire 105 35 Robert
Starting point is 03:04:25 Osigweta Osig osigweta Osigway, oh, I like those cigueta. I thought that was that might be Easton, Connecticut 808 that's boobs also Kevin McLaughlin's right there from North Concord, North Carolina He's the Archduke of Luna love of America and boobs with eight. Oh eight Keeps piling it on Robert Umberger in Langhorn, Pennsylvania 8008 that's three hyperlocal stop at planet net boobs and there's no name in this one from Missouri City, Texas 75 bucks you have anything on your snow I got a green line it just, thank you Missouri City, Texas.
Starting point is 03:05:07 Sir Lineman of the Net in Anna, Illinois. 69.69. Happy Valentine's Day. Oh, there you go. We got one. We got one of these. Baron Victor in Corvallis, Oregon. One of them.
Starting point is 03:05:20 6502. I had an Apple IIe he writes yeah Grayson insurance 6006 Jason Shepard in Trinidad Colorado 6006 Charles Mebach in Wantage New Jersey 68 34 news a birthday call out. Yes. That's right. Feb 8th. His last name is pronounced my back, not me back. And he says, if Trump continues deleting the government agencies, there won't be anything for you two to complain about in four more years.
Starting point is 03:05:57 Yeah. Well, that would be good. Yeah, that would be good. We don't like complaining to be honest about it. No, we don't. Lydietary in Rochester, New Hampshire, 5633. That's a Blizzard donation. Ooh, interesting.
Starting point is 03:06:09 5633 for all of you in the Blizzard. Sir Paul in Twickenham, Twickenham Middlesex, UK. Hey, they're a UK listener. Yeah, there's our UK guy. And he says, 5555. He says, I heard John grouching about a lack of UK donors on 1734 had to donate Here's some pure Anglo-Saxon British pounds coming your way from sir Paul from Twickenham. Thank you, sir, Paul
Starting point is 03:06:33 Sir John and Haber Springs, Arkansas 55 10 Troy Thunder bark in Missoula, Montana $55 organic hemp society in Lansla, Montana, $55. Organic Hemp Society in Lansdale, Pennsylvania. Use the code curry33. His donation was $53.33. It's Organic Hemp Society, California, 13.33% discount. Woo! Sir Mix, and put those done you hemp guys
Starting point is 03:07:05 yeah you can do a little better in 5333. I think so too. Sir Mix from Fort John BC 5298 that's a $50 donation plus all the fees from Canada. Brittany Miller in Trinidad Colorado 5272 Timothy Morris in West Sussex, UK, 52-72. Hey, another one. We got another one. Complaining works. Complaining works.
Starting point is 03:07:29 Two. Complaining, you know, people should note this. Yes. Complaining works. Listen up, Canada. Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa, 51. Bad idea supply. Talk of the devil, You spoke of them earlier.
Starting point is 03:07:45 That's right. Look them up. Look them up on the internet. They came in with $50 and 50 cents. Uh, they make the bad ideas, bad ideas. They got a full supply. Stuff you can burn. Yeah. Ray Howard in Kremlin, Colorado, 50. Oops. These are all way to the fifties. Let's go with the $50 donors name and location. Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington, Edward, Missouri, and Memphis, 50. Oops, these are all way to the 50s. Let's go with the $50 donors name and location. Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington, Edward, Missouri, and Memphis, Tennessee.
Starting point is 03:08:10 William Kidwell in Dover, Delaware. Aaron Matthews in Taylor, Michigan. William needs a deduction. You've been deduced. William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas. Kerry Jackson in Watertown, Tennessee. And last on the very short list is our buddy Jason Deluzio there in Miami Beach. So that was a piss poor showing for a show.
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Starting point is 03:09:27 The Baron of Old Bay turned 58 on February 8th and Charles Meebok, my buck, turned 34 on February 8th. Kevin McKenna wishes his son Grayson a happy birthday. He celebrates tomorrow and dude named Brian celebrates on the 11th and the love of his life his cadet the total smoke show Megan celebrates her birthday in the 13th happy birthday everybody from everyone here at the best podcast in the universe and we're gonna skip over titles and nights and days because there are none today so we go straight to the meetups. The NoAgenda Meetups is where you get connection that will give you protection. These are your first responders in an emergency. These are producer organized. Everyone sets them up
Starting point is 03:10:18 at NoAgendaMeetups.com. And by the way, this is not for concerts where you're going to meet. These are separate meetups that you organize in a bar or some other place at someone's home. So there's no entrance fee for anything. It is purely for producer-organized gatherings. That is a rule. We're going to have to clarify that on the Meetup site, and we will. And the rules are followed by the Boise, Idaho people. In the morning, John and Adam, this is Jason from the Boise, Idaho Meetup site and we will. And the rules are followed by the Boise, Idaho people.
Starting point is 03:10:45 In the morning, John and Adam, this is Jason from the Boise, Idaho Meetup. And I'm going to pass it along so everybody can say hi. Hey there, it's Jen from Idaho. Oh, Dame Jen from Idaho. I'm still trying to get that dangly balls and double dicks donations going. So ladies, come on, let's go. Hi, this is Xeniaia the German from Boiseado. This is Mike from Donley in the morning.
Starting point is 03:11:09 Eric here just reminding everybody donate you douchebag. Karen here wearing my maha hat maybe this time next week we'll have RFKJ in. Woo. This is Bruce from Star and I want to point out we are in Eagle not in Boise but the greater Boise area people should come out and join us and have some fun. This is Megan from Boise.
Starting point is 03:11:28 This is Dave from Boise. Bring in big balls. In the morning! A random number donation we had two meetups in Idaho that was Boise here's a very busy meetup that took place in North Idaho. Hey it's Sir Scott the Jew. We're here with the North Idaho Sanding Brigade at the Trails End brewery in Curdill Lane. I tried to order dessert, but the waitress had never heard of a strobe waffle.
Starting point is 03:11:54 In the morning. Danica here. Scott Smokin' Out White. Sir Ellie Fonks here. In the morning. This is Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles. Deckin' Tube's's good, transistor's bad. Sir Devo here, shape shifting back between Montana
Starting point is 03:12:09 and Spokane and now Idaho. It's Brad the Gold Digger. Can I be a cowgirl now that I own cows? This is Brian out of Spokane. No. No, no. I do my spooking in Spokane, but this is Brian out of Post Falls.
Starting point is 03:12:22 This is Lacey from Post Falls. I don't say nothing, cause I'm a doucher. This is your spook of Spokane, but this is Brian out of Post Falls. This is Lacey from Post Falls. I don't say nothing because I'm a doucher. This is your spook of Spokane. Wondering why I'm using crutches in the snow. Oh, that must be due to climate change. Team Jen with a G here. Instead of prescribing Ozempic, I think I'll just refer people to toomanyeggs.com.
Starting point is 03:12:39 This is a dude named Jeff. I'm Miss Roundy. In the morning, this is Jason from Post Falls, Idle. Thumbs up for the tip of the day for the Ching Wong Hungs burn cream. That worked amazing. It saved my life. I thought you guys were amazing. You guys were all very, very friendly. Everything went really well. Got a little confused when you shouted something about worms.
Starting point is 03:12:59 I was like, everybody downstairs thought it might be a little cult-like. But I think it was okay. I think it was good. They're eating the ball of worms! Now that's a meetup report with the server in there talking about us being a cult but still liking it. Beautiful. Very good North Idaho. We go to the February Club 33 barbecue and Bitcoin in Fort Wayne. Adam and John, this is Shannon helping co-host in Fort Wayne. We had barbecue and Bitcoin. It was a hell of a turnout. Dame Trinity having a greats in Fort Wayne. We had barbecue in Bitcoin. It was a hell of a turnout. Dame Trinity having a great time in Fort Wayne. In the morning, John and Adams for PBR Street Gang. Hey, what ever happened to Zippy?
Starting point is 03:13:32 In the morning, I'm David and I'm here to tell you that if you ain't shiggin' you're either losing or lyin'. This is Mike, in the morning. I'm wondering what Elon's 30 second ads are going to be doing on the Super Bowl. Should be interesting. In the morning. In the morning. And finally from Snohomish, Washington, the Snowhomo meetup. In the morning, this is Jorge. I'm here with a lovely group of people for the second Snohomish snow agenda meetup. I'm going to pass, whatever, we're going to pass the phone along.
Starting point is 03:14:00 Here we go. In the morning, this is Savannah. This is the official petition to get John on Rogan. In the morning, this is Savannah. This is the official petition to get John on Rogan. Yeah, there we go. In the morning, this is Sir Jack Ash, the Narcissist Sasquatch here at the Club of Fellows of Fiskets and Snowtown Brewing, Snow Homish Washington. Have you guys have a good time. In the morning, this is Michelle with the Fabulous Group.
Starting point is 03:14:20 This is Steve with My Daily Blurb, Elon Musk. This is Larder the Redtail Ranch Night Emeritus and I don't have my ring. I've never ordered it. I gotta get with the program. Daniel here. I queried the uh Grand database and I can confirm that this meetup is not USAID funded. And that is it for our meetup reports. There's a meetup happening on Thursday the 13th, the Outer Swamp meetup in New York, no, New York Time, 6 o'clock, Java Nation, that's in Rockland, Maryland actually, kind of a spookish place, and also on Thursday the Shrunken Amigula Support Group 2.0, 7 o'clock at March 1st,
Starting point is 03:14:54 brewing in Cincinnati, Ohio, many more to be found at NoAgendaMeetups.com. Get it together people, you will love hanging out with your No Agenda fellow No Agenda nation citizens and human resources. Go to NoAgendaMeetups.com. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's so easy. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you want to be, triggered or held alame.
Starting point is 03:15:15 You want to be where everybody feels the same. You want to be where you want to be, triggered or held alame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. You want to be where you want to be, triggered or held alame. You want to be where you want to be, triggered or held alame. You want to be where you want to be, triggered or held alame. You want to be where you want to be, triggered or held alame. You want to be where you want to be, triggered or held alame.
Starting point is 03:15:23 You want to be where you want to be, triggered or held alame. You want to be where you want to be, triggered or held alame. You want to be where you want to be, triggered or held alame. You want to be where you want to be, triggered or held alame. You want to be where you want to be, triggered or held alame. You want to be where you want to, Triggered or held alaim. You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. You've been knocking it out of the park on the isos in the last few shows. You've got some kind of trove you've been pulling them from. So I do have two. I don't know if I'll make
Starting point is 03:15:45 even a dent in your ISO so I shall go first here's the first one They're eating the ball of worms! I kind of thought that was cute they're eating the ball of worms and then this one Wow whoa! That's not bad. I know I thought you'd like it. I have two. Okay. I, I know. I thought you'd like it. I have two. I have a thanks.
Starting point is 03:16:08 Thanks Elsa. Thanks Elsa. Thanks Elsa. Well then let's try this one. Excellent. Excellent. I could listen to another hour. I can never win from these. Where are you getting these from? These are so good.
Starting point is 03:16:24 Books on tape. There. Ha ha ha. And now everybody it's time for the moment you've been waiting for, John's Tip of the Day. Creative vibes for you and me. Just a tip with JCB. And sometimes, Adam. Created by Dana Bernetti. And I do want to remind everybody you can find these tips at tipoftheday.net, but also on noagendafun.com, which has a lot of our other stables. I find noagendafun.com to be a more complete list. It's also, well, nothing against tipoftheday.net, but noagendafun.com definitely has a lot of
Starting point is 03:17:03 other stuff, our books, the movies, the TV shows we talk about. It's just, it's fun. It's NoAgendaFun.com, but also Tipoftheday.net. And we are all excited. I will say this, what's missing from NoAgendaFun.com is TooManyEggs.com. Oh, no. Plug.
Starting point is 03:17:20 Oh, that is just a travesty. Yeah, I think so. Okay. So, yeah, I a travesty. Yeah, I think so. Okay. So, um, yeah, I got another tip here. This is an interesting one. Another website called, the product is called in paint. In paint? In the paint, like in I, in paint, but the website's actually the in paint.com the in paint.com.
Starting point is 03:17:45 Theinpaint.com. And this gives you, there's all these, this is probably the best of all these artificial intelligence removal tools. So you have a photo and you got your ex-boyfriend, your ex-girlfriend in the photo, you click on her, boom, she's gone. How does that go again? The inpaint.com. No how does it go with the ex-girlfriend?
Starting point is 03:18:09 Boom she's gone. Thank you. I don't know if that's gonna work. It might not. But because I've always wanted one of these for a regular just a computer because they have them on phones you always take a picture of your phone with a Pixel, Pixel 6, Pixel 7, whatever it is. And you all look and you tap on the person and poof! Disappears. Well, this is another version of that same kind of technology. And is it free? Is it free?
Starting point is 03:18:38 It's free! It's free! How do they do it? How do they do this with this AI? It's all free! It's amazing. I can't. do it how do they do this with this AI it's all free it's amazing that's yes and expect it to disappear one of these days completely that's right everybody there it is your tip of the day tip of the day dot net no
Starting point is 03:18:54 agenda fun dot com and sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Bernetti. That's right everybody. There you go. We are well on time to get ready for the big game. The big big big game. We're so excited about the big game.
Starting point is 03:19:15 The big game will be played and I will be rooting for the birds. Go birds! E-G-E-L-E-S-E. Eagles. Yes. For those of you who do not want to watch the Super Bowl, stick around because coming up next on the stream, noagenda.stream, trollroom.io if you want to troll, or of course your modern podcast app, we got just two good old boys coming up next.
Starting point is 03:19:39 Two good old boys. I think that's Sergene, one of the two good old boys and some dude named Bann. And of course we have some very relevant end of show mixes. We've got David Kekta, always comes in with something. Danny Loose is back, good to have Danny. Danny is, I'm glad he's back calming down, a little worried about stuff in the world, and also some Chris, Sir Chris Wilson stuck in there. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill country here in Fredericksburg, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley,
Starting point is 03:20:15 we're at Super Bowl Sunday, the kickoff is at 3.30, they say, but it won't be, I guarantee it, I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday with more media deconstruction right here, remember us at knowageandthedoanations.com Until then, adios, mofos, a hooey, hooey, and such! Elon Musk! Elon Musk! Elon Musk! Elon Musk! I gotta say, President Trump is brilliant! We will not shut up!
Starting point is 03:20:46 We will stand up! We will speak up! We will rise up! What's dangerous is that people who work for USAID are wearing masks to protect themselves from Musk. This is a hero dictatorship! We're not gonna have apar a part-time in America anymore. Elon Musk has not been elected to anything. And who the hell does Musk think he is?
Starting point is 03:21:16 He has absolutely no right in shutting down USAID. We cannot allow that. We've got to take to the streets. Talk to us, Marv. F*** Elon Musk. ...attempts to undermine federal agencies with the help of Elon Musk. His latest victim is the US Agency for International Development, or USAID. Now this is the magic of Steve Jobs. Well, no.
Starting point is 03:21:43 These guys are literally... I'm telling you, nobody wants to believe me when I say this, but they sold themselves out to evil forces. It creates this magic around them. This is nothing you can do about it. You mean like black magic? Yeah, black magic. That's why in some black magic Elon, I've got a black magic Elon I've got a black magic Elon Goddess of a trunk I must see I've got a black magic Elon He's trying to get a hundo out of me Cervical cancer is back I made my sons get it immediately
Starting point is 03:22:43 Because they don't know anything they do not have knowledge and who the hell this must take he is? The Nazi Nuffo Baby not conscious I get it not no no no not just not conscious in the courts in congress in the streets they don't know anything
Starting point is 03:23:02 the obvious way anyone would pay for a Chad GPT Plus at all. I made my sons get it immediately. Pretending to be outraged. They make mistakes. Oh, you want to use our money. 20 million on a new Sesame Street show in Iraq to combat disinformation in Kazakhstan. We won.
Starting point is 03:23:20 We won. We won. We won. We won. That's the kind of thing that you should get fired from a company, for they should boot you out the door. Reduction in the gen with providers who are using NABLA. NABLA is the AI software company.
Starting point is 03:23:35 We have to fight this in the Congress, we have to fight this in the streets! As Elon... Nob... Nambla? No. I made my sons get it immediately. No, not this numb blood. I should boot you out the door. You don't have thoughts. You don't even know how these things fully funk.
Starting point is 03:23:54 And then ran it in your worst way back. I made my sons get it immediately. Hard time in America anymore! They do not have knowledge. Yes, the Nazi Nucko Baby! Cervical cancer's back. Alright, we've gotta take to the streets! The best podcast in the universe!
Starting point is 03:24:17 Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org, slash, N, A. Excellent, I could listen to another hour.

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