No Agenda - 1742 - "Golden Poop"

Starting point is 00:00:00 Yeah, he bled like a little sissy. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, February 27th, 2025. This is your world-winning KidBourn Nation media assassination episode 1742. This is No Agenda. Confusing, chaotic and broadcasted live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Starting point is 00:00:23 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where you want to remind all the kids, don't eat dead bats. I'm Johnson Borak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Yeah, that was a great report. Do you have that report?

Starting point is 00:00:39 Well, I don't have an audio now. I know it. I think I have the report. Hold on a second. Yes, it's the mysterious virus in the Congo. More than 50 people have died in Northwestern Democratic Republic of Congo because of a mystery virus. According to health experts from Bikoro Hospital, a regional monitoring center, the symptoms resemble those linked to deadly viruses such as Ebola and dengue.

Starting point is 00:01:02 The outbreak started at the end of the clip it's actually should be Ebola and Marburg that's a hemorrhagic not well then the dengue is kind of but you did really hard to get to that point I don't know this is a bull crap report well we know it's a bull crap report, but at least put Marburg in. It's a little scarier than dengue. The outbreak started at the end of January. The virus was first discovered in three children who ate a bat. More than 400 cases have been recorded so far.

Starting point is 00:01:38 This is the most racist thing you can ever, this is so racist. It's like, yes, the little African kids are so hungry. They're walking around naked. You know, these dumb African kids, they see a dead bat and like any other child would immediately go eat it. I mean, come on, kids won't even eat vegetables. Now who's racist now? You don't know about the African diet. They eat ants. Tense bat by the side of the road. Oh look, Jimmy, let's go eat the dead bat instead of going yuck and running away like a kid would.

Starting point is 00:02:15 I want to meet those kids. I want an interview with them. Don't just give me that story. Give me the background. I want these kids going, well, you know, we saw the bat and we said, haven't had food in five days, I think we'll eat the bat. And it looks so tasty, this dead bat. We need more information on this. We can't just take this at face value. That's no good. That's no good. Hey, I'm going to sum up the week's M5M because as we have noted on this program for probably all of our 17 plus years

Starting point is 00:02:46 the media likes to glom onto one certain phrase and repeat it over and over at nauseam and here is this week's phrase. Tonight confusion and chaos is spreading within a number of agencies across the federal government. Tonight chaos and confusion across the federal government. This morning chaos and confusion across the federal government. This morning there's more chaos and confusion across the federal government. This morning, chaos and confusion across the federal government. This morning, there's more chaos and confusion within the federal government. We have been reporting on the chaos and confusion. Chaos and confusion has already broken out.

Starting point is 00:03:14 Other than his mega-cult, nobody wants this chaos and confusion. How do you see this chaos and confusion ending? There is a lot of confusion, lots of chaos. Of course, it's creating chaos and confusion. The Musk inspired chaos and confusion in the federal government. So it's the seeds of more chaos and more confusion and more disillusionment. Oh chaos and confusion that's what it is. Yeah I'm glad you got that because I had a supercutted but it was mostly chaos, chaos, chaos, but chaos and confusion.

Starting point is 00:03:47 That's the clip. That's the combo. And alliteration is great in broadcasts. They always like to do the one, two punch, you know? A safe and effective. Chaos and confusion. Now, if you want to know the source of the chaos and confusion, I am so happy that this man is back

Starting point is 00:04:04 on the no agenda scene. He's back on our radar. He is an end of show mix in the making. I present to you the man who can tell you exactly why we have chaos and confusion. The one, the only running for mayor, Reverend Manning. Elon Musk, the richest man in the world, gave transgender tribulation Trump 280 million dollars to his campaign. That's what he gave on the top of the table. And now he owns Trump. That's right. He owns Trump. Whatever he tells Trump to do, Trump jumps. When Elon Musk said jump, Trump, Trump jumps. When Elon Musk said rump, rump, jump, rump, chump, chump, chump, when Elon Musk say hey chump, Trump, jump, hey, chump, Trump, jump, jump, Trump, chump, chump, Trump, jump, jump, jump, hey Trump, hey Trump,

Starting point is 00:04:58 hey Trump, hey Trump, hey Trump, Trump, hey Trump, hey, hey, hey Trump, hey Trump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, Trump, jump, jump, jump, when Elon Musk said Trump, Trump got the jump. Man, that guy is so good. It's so good to have him back. For some reason, he's always been a Trump hater. You know, he had hated him during the first go-around and he never was, we never got anything from him during the first go round and he never was, we never got anything from him during the Biden era.

Starting point is 00:05:29 He hated Obama to an extreme. Oh yeah, big time. Yeah. And then he hated Trump, but he never really hated on Biden so much. Yeah. We never picked up on it. I always found that peculiar. Well, he's running for mayor in New York City, which is great.

Starting point is 00:05:46 Well, it'll be definitely entertaining. It is great. And I guess Cuomo, the old Cuomo guy is going to run too. Oh, yeah. He looks like he's been on the O, man. He's been sucking down. Mario? Yeah, he looks like a bit of Ozempic face and body.

Starting point is 00:05:59 He's deflated. It's quite interesting. I haven't seen him. He's smaller than he used to be. I have bad news, although in a way it's not... Can I guess the bad news? You'll never guess. They're not going to bring out the Epstein stuff that Pam Bondi promised yesterday on

Starting point is 00:06:18 the Jesse Waters show. I saw, actually I heard her promise that. I was driving back from Dallas listening to my Sirius XM receiver. I heard her say, oh, Jesse, oh, heard her promise that. I was driving back from Dallas listening to my serious XM receiver. I heard her say, oh, Jesse, oh, it's coming out. We're gonna release it tomorrow. It's all, oh, it's so bad. Oh, you won't, it's so bad.

Starting point is 00:06:34 We'll see. So no news. I know. No, I think she said Friday. I thought she said Friday. No, no, she said today. She said tomorrow. Okay.

Starting point is 00:06:43 And that was yesterday. So that's supposed to be today. But tomorrow never comes, John. And Friday is Zelensky Day. He's on the plane. I saw a video of him getting on the plane. And right now, Keir Starmer is sitting in the Oval Office. And he's sitting doing one of those press things

Starting point is 00:07:01 where they all yell at Trump about China and other things and tariffs and blah, blah, blah. You said Europe was built to screw us and Keir Starmer looks like he's gonna puke. He's just his eyes are all wide he looks frightened. It's really something to behold. There was a it was watching some of the Fox coverage because I think it's probably better news generally speaking but when they do news. It's not as funny. They talk about Starmor and nobody seems to, none of these, especially the analysts,

Starting point is 00:07:33 nobody seems to want to mention the fact that Starmor is the guy as the head of the Labor Party who sent a bunch of operatives over to the United States to campaign for Kamala Harris. And nobody wants to discuss the fact that that could be souring the relationship between the United States and the UK. Well why would they do that? That's not funny. That's not funny. We have to be hair on fire. Okay so I had four and a half hours in the car and I listened as much to as much CNN as I could as much MSNBC as I could and you know Frau Ingraham was a gitmo that was super boring to listen to but the spin-up is just out of control and here's the bad news so like many Americans we have liberals in our families and one of our liberal family members is so

Starting point is 00:08:27 spun up and just just completely It's not working Going all out of control About Trump's gonna cut Medicare Trump's gonna Trump's gonna cut Social Security. It's gonna hurt everybody. It's gonna hurt me I won't have any medical, you know, just on and by the way Trump can't do any of that only Congress can do it. Not only that but Trump specifically said he's not going to. I know but you know this is what the media and so my question was where are you getting

Starting point is 00:08:58 this from? Well I know that you're getting others you know it's respectful by the way you know but this is the good news about our family is everybody can give their opinion and everyone still loves each other. That's quite spectacular, honestly. So far. Yeah, we're hanging on by a thread. So where are you getting this from?

Starting point is 00:09:19 Will I listen to big platforms like? What do you think? Well, it'd be the New York Times, MSNBC, CNN, Deutsche Welle. No. Big platforms. I don't know how much bigger I can get. Midas Touch. Oh, really? Yes. And they think that's a big platform? Well, if you look on YouTube, every episode has over a million views and they do 15 a day. And each episode is about 15-16 minutes. They are really flooding the zone and it's working.

Starting point is 00:09:56 Well, that's the way you do it. And you get the news like they dethrone. I mean, the whole psy-op was perfect. It's like, you know, tell everybody that they've dethroned Joe Rogan and then they tune in. And it's just the one of the brothers, I think they do switch off and they just sit there. And I mean, every single title is clickbait, you know, Trump's losing it, out of control, no grasp, Elon's the president. It goes on and on and on and on. And so when it comes to, so I just pulled up two clips

Starting point is 00:10:27 from this horrendous podcast. And so they're really riling people up and they're doing a good job. I have to say, cause they're complete insiders. They had a political action committee for the Democrat party. One of them is a lawyer, the other one is Colin Kaepernick's business partner.

Starting point is 00:10:47 These are not just some bros from Brooklyn. They've been on the inside and it's better than what is that stupid show, Pod Save America. I think they've completely taken that those, because Pod Save America was all hate Republicans, hate Trump, all stupid, but they were kind of hoity-toity for like the New York elite set, the Washington elites, because they were also former Obama speech writers and they got into kind of the weeds of the political process. These guys, they just come out and go blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and anything Trump

Starting point is 00:11:23 does is dumb. And so this is a clip I heard last night on my way home. This country has gotten bloated and fat and disgusting and incompetently run. Mirror mirror on the wall. That was Donald Trump apparently talking about himself during his first cabinet meeting of his new term. Donald Trump was joined by his puppet master, Elon Musk, who led much of the meeting, which was completely bizarre, full of lies.

Starting point is 00:11:47 And at times Donald Trump didn't even seem to acknowledge that he is actually the president. Are you kind of starting to get what they're doing here? This is Rachel Maddow to an extreme without the smug, dumb pauses of Rachel Maddow. I have to say they're doing a good job here. My name is Brett Mycelis with Midas Touch. I'm going to walk you through the lowlights and fact check it all. But first remember to hit subscribe to help us get to 5 million subscribers. The meeting began with a prayer where they thanked God for President Trump.

Starting point is 00:12:16 Just completely bizarre stuff. Completely bizarre. They're praying in the cabinet meeting. It's no good. Watch this. Father, we thank you for this awesome privilege, father, to be in your presence. God, thank you that you've allowed us to see this day. The Bible says that your mercies are new every morning. And father, God, we give you the glory and the

Starting point is 00:12:36 honor. Thank you, God, for president Trump, father, for appointing us. Father, God, thank you for anointing us to do this job. Trump then didn't even seem to know that he is president right now. And he said that while egg prices are a disaster and are really high now, they were low with him. Eggs are a disaster. The secretary of agriculture is going to be showing you a chart that's actually mind boggling what's happened, how low they were with us and how high they are now. So all this questioning, lead ins like, well, of course they were low. They didn't have bird flu when he was president the first time. But then they make this everything is with this interesting slant.

Starting point is 00:13:15 And it's working. It's just working. It's it's I have to say, and they are spinning people up and they're doing a better job than any of those mainstream outlets you mentioned, particularly because it's a non-stop barrage. And so the bad news is now I'm going to have to follow these jimokes. Now I'm going to have to listen to what they're doing. Good. I'm glad you're going to do it because I can't stand listening to them. They're also riling up everybody about the backlash, the Doge backlash.

Starting point is 00:13:43 So yeah, there's backlash by people who are spun up. It's, I'm pretty sure. By them. Yes, well listen to it. You'll get the idea of how they're doing this. And then I'll, I don't have any more of them today, but I'm gonna have to have at least one each show. Let me just show you a longer clip from that town hall.

Starting point is 00:14:00 And then I wanna show you that from Wisconsin to Georgia to New York to the West Coast People are rising up right now Red states blue states purple states all of the colors people are angry People are pissed people demand action watch this right here from that town hall let's play it they didn't like some of Scott Fitzgerald's answers the end result of the fraud and abuse that has been discovered already Michael Wittig is concerned with Elon Musk's role in the Trump administration he held up a sign that read presidents are not Kings.

Starting point is 00:14:47 Are you going to subpoena him? You can guess that this guy was not a Republican rising up with a sign like that. Well, no, actually there was somebody researched this out and discovered it was a left-wing organization. There wasn't a Republican in the place. That's the point. But they were making a fuss as if they were Republicans and you're telling me that Midas touch with all their quote unquote fact checking that they claim didn't bring this up?

Starting point is 00:15:12 I'm not going to claim it. I'm going to say that's exactly what happened. And I'm saying it with evidence. Are not kings. Are you going to subpoena him at some point? After you're done with the budget or whatever, are you willing to use your subpoena power to say Trump, or sorry, Musk, come in here, stand in front of Congress and answer some hard questions?

Starting point is 00:15:29 Congressman Fitzgerald insists Musk's efforts to find waste and fraud are working and Congress will eventually have budget oversight. So now I want to share with you what was going down in New York. Going down. Representative Paul Tonko. Going down. Congressional district Democrat Paul Tonko, congressional district Democrat, Paul Tonko. Here at this town hall, a huge ovation.

Starting point is 00:15:51 Interesting how he uses a Trump huge instead of huge. That just caught that for some reason. Here at this town hall, a huge ovation. I think that's intentional. As a teacher. Well, yeah, that's also Bernie also says that okay Encourages congressmember Paul Tonko who is pushing back to do more to work harder Even if that means getting arrested for civil disobedience

Starting point is 00:16:16 You're in public service right now You cannot sit idly by as Elon Musk and these billionaires take away all of people's rights and freedoms. Watch the energy in this room in New York. Play this clip. Yeah, so we're not going to play this clip. But they are, they really- So they're basically gaslighters. Oh, totally gaslighting.

Starting point is 00:16:38 And they're doing a good job of it, is what you're claiming. Yes. And you have proof of that by virtue of the fact that you have relatives in your own family, a circle that have been gas-lit by these guys and they're all spun up. So I'll just read you some titles. Just to summarize on your behalf. Trump morning disaster, major SCOTUS order,

Starting point is 00:16:58 release the files, whoa, Canada, and Mike drop. He's freaking out, fatal move, Donald. Stay the hell out Donald total loser move show me the evidence whoa it's happening these are the titles and they've already released one two three four five six seven eight they've already eight so far today and we're not even at 130 and each one has up to well takes about Six hours and they get up to about a million views not all of them But the majority of them so they're doing and that's just YouTube so they're doing it right and

Starting point is 00:17:37 It's working and they should get a medal From they'll get a medal. All right. Oh, yeah Oh, they'll get a medal, all right. Oh, yeah. There's some precious medal is what they're getting. And they have ads and they're probably making movie, making money. I say making movies because Gene Hackman died. Oh, he did. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:58 Well, did you not hear this? No, I didn't. Oh, this is an interesting story. This morning, authorities investigating the death of a Hollywood legend. Gene Hackman found dead Wednesday alongside his wife, classical pianist Betsy Arakawa, in their home in Santa Fe. Police say the couple who married in 1991 were found with their dog after a neighbor called police to do a welfare check. So he, his wife, and the dog were all dead. So he, his wife and the dog were all dead.

Starting point is 00:18:30 And there's no suspected foul play and we don't have any answers. Gas leak? Yeah, I'm thinking carbon monoxide. Absolutely. That's what I'm thinking. He's 95. You don't need a lot of carbon. But she's only 65, I think. She wasn't all that old. And the dog, you know, the dog being dead and there's no mention of guns and explosions and poison pills anywhere if the dog is also dead then I'm thinking carbon monoxide but it's just in time to promote the Oscars that's the good news never never never never miss on it was like the other person that I resist is this Trachtenberg actress.

Starting point is 00:19:08 Who was that? Trachtenberg? She was on Buffy and a bunch of other... Gossip Girl and whatever. And she was 39. And of course the first thing they dug up was tweets of her condemning people for not getting vaxxed. Oh goodness. Well, I do have, I might as well play one, one Oscar clip just to, to get it out of the way because it's this coming Sunday and they're doing everything they can. Let's promote it and let's keep dying on those hills, everybody.

Starting point is 00:19:38 Activist and writer April Rain is reflecting on the viral moment that turned into a movement. It all started when she was watching the Oscar nominations in 2015. It struck me that category after category, there were no people of color nominated for any of the acting slots. There you go. So that means zero for 20. Rain's viral call for change produced real results at the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. Since hashtag Oscars So White, the Academy made an effort to diversify its pool of members

Starting point is 00:20:11 who get to vote on who should win the Academy Awards. So that people who don't look like me or don't look like you aren't making decisions for me without getting my input. That change is noticeable. Last year, 20% of the Academy nominees were from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. That's compared to just 9% in 2015. Reign says while the Academy has improved its on-screen diversity, there's more work

Starting point is 00:20:40 to be done behind the camera. I see more people, actors and producers, directors, creating their own production companies, you know, no longer waiting for their seat at the table, but creating their own mansion and putting their table and chair in it. And Rain had this advice for those feeling discriminated and marginalized. Do not let anyone tell you that you don't belong in the room. Go and claim your space. Okay. So I guess claim your space. Podcasts are so white.

Starting point is 00:21:10 Yeah, right. They are. Podcasts are so white. Well, that's not true because we're going to see a lot more podcasters of color, also known as POCs. POCs. POCs, yes. We also have Gavin Newsom who's decided instead of governing the state of California, he's

Starting point is 00:21:27 going to podcast. Yeah. I haven't listened yet. That's going to be a winner. Yeah. No, the Pocs are going to be Joy Reid's podcast, Lester Holt's podcast. They're going to be Pocs, Poccasters. There you go.

Starting point is 00:21:39 Poccasters. Poccasters. I'm going to have to write that one down just in case. Yeah. Yeah. And remember, remember that it is a podcaster who is now assistant director of the FBI. I mean, this is an outrage. Bongino.

Starting point is 00:22:02 Code Bongino. Code Bongino. Yes. I wonder what his code name. Hold on a second. Where is that? Is it under? I'm over. Oh, here we go. Yes. Over to Pooper. Yet another prominent MAGA media personality. MAGA media personality.

Starting point is 00:22:10 MAGA media. Hey everybody, MAGA media here. Yet another prominent MAGA media personality. I like MAGA media. MAGA media. MAGA media. MAGA media. MAGA media.

Starting point is 00:22:18 MAGA media. MAGA media. MAGA media. MAGA media. MAGA media. MAGA media. MAGA media. MAGA media. MAGA media. MAGA media. MAGA media personalities. MAGA media personalities. MAGA media. Hey everybody, MAGA media here. Yet another prominent MAGA media personalities.

Starting point is 00:22:30 I like MAGA media as a show title by the way. MAGA media, okay. Yet another prominent MAGA media personality has been tapped for a top role in the Trump administration. This time it is podcaster, next secret service agent, Dan Bongino. Podcaster, the first thing you get, podcasting has come a long way, John.

Starting point is 00:22:44 That guy's got a master's, we've got a good back when they when they say Podcaster they should say created by Adam Curry and this time it is podcaster next secret service agent And yeah exactly like we had brunetti's balls You'd be pushing this much so I'm gonna tell you a straight and this time it is podcaster next secret service agent Dan Bongino. The president announced in a social media post late last night that, quote, great news for law enforcement and American justice, Dan Bongino, a man of incredible love and passion for our country,

Starting point is 00:23:13 has just been named the next deputy director of the FBI by the man who will be the best ever director, Cash Patel. Now, we should point out the deputy director oversees the day-to-day operations of the bureau, and typically the role is held by career federal agents, which Bongino isn't. A decade or so ago, Mr. Bongino appeared on this program a number of times giving thoughtful and serious commentary on law enforcement matters. This was him in 2014. Okay, thoughtful.

Starting point is 00:23:38 Police departments in general, Anderson, there is a crisis in policing and it's a crisis in training, despite what some of the other guests have said. I was there, I went through the police academy three times, twice with the NYPD, once with the Secret Service. There is a crisis in training. It is not taken. Does that mean that he didn't pass? That he had to go through it three times?

Starting point is 00:23:55 I thought the same exact thing. If you have to go, hmm, interesting. He didn't make it? That's interesting. I went through the police academy three times, twice with the NYPD, once with the Secret Service. There is a crisis in training. It is not taken seriously in America.

Starting point is 00:24:09 Well, he was last on this program in March of 2016. In the years since, he's grown into an outspoken member of the right-wing media sphere. Right-wing media sphere? Bring back MAGA media. For the president, he often appeared on on Fox attacking the Mueller investigation during the first Trump administration. And adopted the philosophy that he describes as being centered around

Starting point is 00:24:30 quote owning the libs. Own the libs at every opportunity, online, at the election booth, in your activism, don't let them up. Own the libs. Own the libs. I have one more clip from this pooper escapade.

Starting point is 00:24:43 Mr. Bongino gained a lot of traction during COVID. own the lips. I have one more clip from this pooper escapade. Mr. Bongino gained a lot of traction during COVID. This vaccine never had anything to do with science at all. No, it had nothing to do with COVID either. Yeah, it's a COVID vaccine.

Starting point is 00:24:57 It did not prevent the spread of COVID. If masks work, why aren't they working? Because the left doesn't care if they work. President Trump has certainly approved of his questioning the legitimacy of the 2020 election.

Starting point is 00:25:11 Donald Trump was calling out basically a flawed election for what it was, a flawed election. As the chief executive of the United States, it's his job to question an election if he believes there was corruption. That's his actual job, to go and enforce the law as the president chief executive. When the FBI searched the president's home in Mar-a-Lago for classified documents in 2022, Bongino went on Fox to condemn the very agency he is now being tasked to help run. This is such an interesting statement. Folks, the FBI is lost.

Starting point is 00:25:42 It's broken, irredeemably corrupt at this point. The inexcusable raid on President Trump's home was a straw that broke the camel's back. Fire anyone involved in the raid. I don't want to hear any more rank and file stuff. I was a rank and file. I saw stuff I didn't like, I left. It's not hard. You sworn out to the Constitution. That matters. If you played any role in this raid, you should be gone. That seems like a good thing that you want the guy who sees the corruption to be in there, but Anderson Cooper makes it sound like, oh, he called them out. I can't believe he's going to lead them now. Everything's so bizarre. Well, I want to go back to the Oscars thing in this black theory. Okay.

Starting point is 00:26:24 Because the Met Gala is the other thing happening. Did I miss it? Did it happen? No, no, it's coming. Oh, oh yay. I can still see it. When is it? What channel?

Starting point is 00:26:35 Well, I don't know what channel is going to be on, but the Met Gala is a little more ridiculous than the Oscars. And, and there's a, I have a report from PBS and it brings out this new they're gonna emphasize pock on the Met Gala by promoting what's called well play clip one of this series here this spring the annual Met Gala and did you say cut one did you say play cut one I said clip one I think I thought you said cut one like I'm a I don't have a cut That's that was I was confused. One clip like this bring the first clip. Yes. Thank you this spring The annual Met Gala in New York City One of the bigger fashion events of the year will highlight the indelible style of black men the Mets 2025

Starting point is 00:27:19 exhibition titled Superfine tailoring black style opens in May and explores the emergence and significance of the black dandy. We looked into the rich and complicated historical style and its relevance today. It's part of our ongoing series Race Matter. The black dandy. So this is more, a little more extreme than the Oscars.

Starting point is 00:27:42 This is great. The black dandy. So the black dandy, and I think it's the second clip here that has the, or the second cut, that has the little gem in here. Let's play. This is quite fascinating to me because, it's just because what are you guys up to now?

Starting point is 00:28:06 Now as you may have noticed, I always have not one, but two wardrobe setups in this office. Growing up in New York City, Dandy Wellington says he started paying special attention to his appearance at an early age, his style inspired by the Harlem Renaissance. And the name fits his persona. He's a Dandy. Clothes tailored, hats, pristine, and attitude refined. It's a worldwide community. So I'll be inspired by people who are in Paris, who are in LA, you know, people who are in the Congo. There is such a connection to style and also a connection

Starting point is 00:28:42 to culture. You know, the history of black dandyism and black sartorial style is complicated. It's wrapped up in migration and civil rights. Dandyism was first introduced to black culture during the transatlantic slave trade. Well-dressed enslaved men were seen as fixtures of wealth for their enslavers. But tailored attire and wit also offered a path for black men to imagine possibility and

Starting point is 00:29:09 power. From 18th century England to today, it's a way of being that has evolved with the times. The black band is a complicated figure throughout history. We spoke recently with Washington Post senior critic-at-large Robin Givhan, who has long covered the fashion industry. There was this early idea of enslaved black men who were often dressed in fine clothing in order to reflect the status of the enslaver. And you also have black dandies who sort of played with the idea of gender and really sort of tack into sort of feminine tropes, taking ownership of their body and of their

Starting point is 00:29:53 presence, but embellishing it in a way that signifies its value and its strength. I need to talk to Mo about it. I looked at the Urban Dictionary, black dandy, man who takes great care with his clothing, general appearance, but number two is flamboyant or effeminate male, regardless of sexual orientation. I can see why this is a problem, but this is the theme for this year at the Met Gala? Yes, this is the theme for the Met Gala. And this is nothing new. I mean, you just, I think sometimes it referred to a style in.

Starting point is 00:30:29 Well Madonna, Madonna had black dandies, inner dancers, all throughout the eighties and most of the nineties. There you go. And then you have, uh, if you watch an NBA game at the, they always like to throw the camera into the, you know, the walk into the locker room shot, which has become a pretty standard fare, I'd say, over the last decade. And it's always some of the, and it's always out of the whole team, there's about two black guys on any team that that that dress like you know, I would say flamboyantly gay and

Starting point is 00:31:09 Are you saying my favorite sports ball game is gay your sports ball game? It seems so and so anyway onward with cut three You can't keep doing this. Tell me more about that the idea idea that the Black Dandy aesthetic is in some way a form of resistance, and that it challenges stereotypes about Black identity and Black masculinity. For a lot of Dandies, part of their way of dressing is quite emotive and sensual. Emotive? And that breaks definitely some of the cultural expectations of black men.

Starting point is 00:31:49 At the same time, during the civil rights movement, the way that activists dressed was to reflect the degree of respect that they not only had for themselves, but also the respect that they were demanding from society at large. For some leaders in the fight for civil rights, how they dressed was a critical part of achieving their agenda. Frederick Douglass was the most photographed man amongst his contemporaries in the 19th century.

Starting point is 00:32:20 And he dressed up. Anytime you saw Frederick Douglass, he was dressed up. Curator Chantrell P. Lewis is the author of Dandelion, The Black Dandy and Street Style. In the 20th century, WEB Du Bois was very fixated on fighting racism, fighting oppression through aesthetics. In a time post-Trey Vaughan Martin, post many different incidents of police violence in the US, there was like a large mass movement of young black people in urban areas, whether in the US, in the UK, in South Africa, that began really dressing up for themselves and for their own sense of cultural pride and dignity. It's interesting they bring in Frederick Douglass.

Starting point is 00:33:08 You would definitely call him a Republican. And a biblical scholar and W.E. Du Bois. Phoebe, it's okay, it's just a black dandy. W.E. Du Bois is a communist, but okay. No, but Frederick Douglass was a... Phoebe, you're a Republican I might have to add Phoebe's a white dog and she just can't handle all the black talk she's very racist some dogs are yeah so I used to have a dog that was literally racist you did yeah I believe you you don't

Starting point is 00:33:44 even have to explain I believe you like Elon don't even have to explain. I believe you. Like Elon's kid. Hey, shh. It's okay. It's just a black dandy. It's okay. Anyway.

Starting point is 00:33:52 Okay. So yeah, I know lots of black men who like to dress up, but they dress up in, you know, the Timberlands and, you know, well, very well ironed shirts. you know, even if it's a sports team, it's, yeah, they look, they look impeccable. When I went to school in my three months at my alma mater, Salem College, my roommate Ty from Trenton, New Jersey, he showed me how to wash my clothes. He says, what are you doing? I said, I'm washing my clothes.

Starting point is 00:34:25 He said, no, no, no son. And he got me my own tide. You want this. Got me my own tide, showed me how to iron. So yeah, I don't understand. Why is this now the theme for the Met Gala? Doesn't everybody dress up nice for the Gala? Yes, they do.

Starting point is 00:34:44 Now I was going to, we have one more clip left and I'm not going to use, I have to mention something though just because you, because I did the cut thing and you told me to stop. Jesse Waters on his show I think two or three shows ago opened the show by calling the show It's it's Jesse Waters prime time and he stupidly called it Jesse Waters world, which is his old water's world And so Kevin McCarthy was one of the guests and he kept giving waters grief Throughout the interview he says well, I'm glad to be on waters world grief throughout the interview. He says, well, I'm glad to be on water's world. And then he gave him grief at the end saying, well,

Starting point is 00:35:28 that was good. Cause I haven't been on water's world for a while. And I'm thinking what kind of relationship do these two have? You know, McCarthy's on water show all the time. Yeah. And I, it's very interesting. I don't know. All I heard it's very interesting. I don't know. All I heard was Waters saying to Pam Bondi, did I congratulate you yet? I don't know if I congratulated you. And she says, not personally, but you texted me.

Starting point is 00:35:55 Huh. That's a little too close for comfort. Yes, this is insidious is the word you're looking for. Thank you. A little too close for comfort. Call it insidiousness if you must. All right, we'll continue. Throughout history, black style movements

Starting point is 00:36:08 have been closely linked to individual identity. And with a style that's moved across the globe, every dandy is unique, each with a swagger of his own. You could have someone like me who's very much connected to the jazz age and the swing era, vintage as the inspiration. But then of course, there's also Black Dandies that wear Ankara prints and Black Dandies that use street wear as their you know, mode of expression. There is a generation of Black men, as you well know, who take such

Starting point is 00:36:39 pride in dressing to the nines, you know, a perfectly coordinated suit with gleaming alligator shoes. They would probably describe themselves as having swagger. They probably wouldn't describe themselves as being a dandy. How do you draw that line between sort of exuding old school cool and being a black dandy? Oh, brother. I grew up in Detroit, and I think about, you know,

Starting point is 00:37:02 some of the men who, you know, firmly believe that if your shoes were not matching your suit, then you were just sort of not properly dressed. And for some black men, just being seen in sort of full technicolor is an incredible victory. Well, I can't wait to see RuPaul at the Met Gala. I don't even know, what are they doing? Maybe it will become clear when we see it. This whole thing, this is ridiculous.

Starting point is 00:37:34 And the thing is about this entire report, they never once mentioned, they talk about it as though it's some sort of a thing, you know. They never once mentioned the cost of admission. I don't think you can even buy a ticket. You have to be invited, don't you? You have to be invited to buy a ticket. Yeah, invited to buy a ticket, right. Well, I'm asking you, what does it cost to get a ticket?

Starting point is 00:37:58 Do you know the answer? I'm just going to guess. I do know the answer. I wouldn't be pulling the stunt if I wasn't. $5,000. $75,000. Hello? Well, any black dandy has that under his top hat. Although there's a deal. There is a deal.

Starting point is 00:38:14 I bet there is. If you buy a table of 10 for 10, it's $350,000. So it's only 35 a head. Hey, we could do a meetup. It's great. It's our whole a head. Hey, we could do a meetup. It's our whole yearly budget. So, so this is an elitist crock of crap and they're, and they're, they roll out the black dandies as some sort of dance monkey, dance moment. That's what this is all about.

Starting point is 00:38:40 The next gala is one of the worst, most racist. It most racist. It's racist. It is a disgusting product and it's for elites that can afford $75,000 to show up and say, hello, give me a break. To be on camera and get your picture in vogue. That's what it's about. Yeah. Yeah. That used to run it. But again, and you know, PBS and NPR, both of them, I have another report later, they

Starting point is 00:39:08 refute, they do not tell you the numbers. They never give you the numbers. I've never seen it. I had to go research it to find it. It's up from $50,000, by the way. Wow. Back in the day, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame dinner at the Waldorf was a thousand dollars a person. Those days are over. Seems like, yeah, it was, was a, and there were no cameras. It was a much better deal.

Starting point is 00:39:31 Okay. I have to go into this topic because I have a little bit of deconstruction to do, because there's all kinds of information that's all over the map. And obviously it's being played up to an extreme because of RFK Jr. becoming the Health and Human Services Administrator. Can I interrupt? Yeah. So he's sitting there at the, RFK Jr. was behind Trump in some event, then he was sitting at the table with the table read that was called the Board of Directors meeting. What was that called?

Starting point is 00:40:06 Cabinet meeting? Cabinet meeting. Might as well be Board of Directors meeting. Table read is all I still think is good. Table read, that's good. So Kennedy's there and he just never smiles and he looks uncomfortable. He does not like being a Democrat in a room full of Republicans. I don't care what he likes to think and he's going to do whatever ass kicking he does, if he does any. The whole thing is like this is so un... this is a genetically a problem for him. You can just see it.

Starting point is 00:40:41 Well, that's the Kennedy mantra. I don't think the Kennedy's lie. JFK was the last one. Like, we got to get rid of that guy. He's smiling too much. Do you seem like he smiled? JFK had a nice smile. No, he had a great smile. Yeah, charming smile.

Starting point is 00:40:55 Yeah. Well, since you bring up RFK Jr., my first clip will be about RFK Jr. Guy who really actually- Sam, hold on one sec, because RFK is talking about measles. We just had the first measles death in this country in a decade let's listen. Breaking news breaking news first measles death. Wait hold on a second I gotta stop again cuz I have a measles clip too. The first death in a decade they said it's actually something like that. Yes. I thought we would do we've been doing the show for a decade over a obviously, and I keep getting the impression that there's, you know, that this, because of this lack of vaccinations, that measles deaths were increasing and they were happening all over the place.

Starting point is 00:41:34 And now somebody in Texas dies supposedly of measles, and this is the first one in a decade, and all hell's gonna break loose. What, have I been misled? I'm kind of upset because you're stealing my thunder and I'm, you know, I was going to get into a vibe here. Oh, I'm sorry. I was going to get into a vibe.

Starting point is 00:41:55 So just hold that. You know, I, I, this has happened more than once. I say every five shows, I do this to you. It's okay. And I think it's the structure. The structure of the show or the structure? No, the structure of the way you present, the way you set up your gags. Yeah, well so I set up a gag and you're like he's gonna do a gag, let me outgag him. No, you set up the gag in a way that invites me to do this.

Starting point is 00:42:19 I'm sorry. Okay, I haven't done that. It's your fault. You're outgagging me. This is no good. It's my fault. I'm sorry. I repent. Guy who really actually- Sam, Sam, hold on one sec, because RFK is talking about measles. We just had the first measles death in this country in a decade. Let's listen.

Starting point is 00:42:34 Watching it, and there are about 20 people hospitalized, mainly for quarantine. We're watching it, we put out a post on it yesterday, and we're going to continue to follow it. Incidentally, there have been four measles outbreaks this year. We're watching it, we put out a post on it yesterday and we're going to continue to follow it. Incidentally, there have been four measles outbreaks this year. That's a little worse that clip than I thought. But anyway, the point was Katie Chur interrupts her guest because we have a measles death, RFK is talking about the measles death. Let's go to NPR. Health officials in Texas say more than 20 people are hospitalized amid an outbreak of measles death. Let's go to NPR. Health officials in Texas say more than 20 people are hospitalized amid an outbreak of measles. Outbreak! Hold on a second. First let me just give you the

Starting point is 00:43:10 definition of outbreak. The definition of outbreak is a violent increase in activity or currency. That is the first definition as Merriam-Webster. We're talking 93 people. This is an outbreak. Child dead. Wait, let's get the dead child in there. Hold on. That has left one child dead. Dr. Lara Johnson, the chief medical officer at Covenant Health in Lubbock says the risk is low for people who have been vaccinated. For those of us who are fully vaccinated against measles, the risk, a lot of people are worried about what's your risk in the community, your risk is extremely, extremely low of having

Starting point is 00:43:50 any issues at all with measles. The risk with measles is really for those who are not immune, who have not been vaccinated. The CDC says 124 confirmed cases of the measles, mostly among teens and children, have been confirmed in the U.S. so far this year. 124 confirmed cases of the measles, mostly among teens and children, have been confirmed in the U.S. so far this year. This is... So, if you're vaccinated, your risk is very, very low, whereas my understanding of vaccines has changed a little over the years, is that you receive the vaccine, it has a dead virus

Starting point is 00:44:22 in there, your immune system responds to it in a less violent matter than getting the actual measles virus. And so the next time it comes around, your immune system will recognize it and will repel it and you're not going to get sick. But now they're saying your risk is low. What is the risk? Let's go to France 24. For the first time in a decade, a person has died from the

Starting point is 00:44:49 measles virus in the US. There are a dozen more in hospital with several in intensive care in the outbreak spanning Texas and New Mexico. And as you can see from today's news, this virus can have severe and deadly consequences. The patient was an unvaccinated school-age child. Over 120 cases of the highly contagious respiratory infection have been identified in Texas since late January.

Starting point is 00:45:11 In the US, vaccine hesitancy is on the rise. The Centers for Disease Control said during the 2023 to 2024 school year, exemptions from one or more vaccines among kindergartners in the US increased to 3.3%. In Gaines County, Texas, the epicenter of the current outbreak, the vaccine exemption rate was nearly 18%. According to Health Department data, if you're unvaccinated, if you're around someone who has the illness, you have a 90% chance of becoming ill from the virus. When we say the vaccine is 93% effective. 93% effective. Hold on a second. So out of 100 people, seven will get it anyway. So it's what is this vaccine? It's 93. We've heard this before. 93% effective.

Starting point is 00:45:56 That means I suppose we took 100 vaccinated people and put them in a room with someone with measles. Almost all of those vaccinated people, 93% would not contract the illness at all. Health officials remain concerned as more Do they, wait, do they, at that point would they explain why seven people who were vaccinated, seven people out of a hundred, which is seven percent, which is a high number, if it was a death rate of seven percent, that wouldn't be good. And so you have seven people that catch it and they were vaccinated.

Starting point is 00:46:27 Is there an explanation as to why the vaccinated person would have caught the disease when they were vaccinated? Did they explain that in that report? Why are you making trouble? I'm sorry. You're asking questions that shall not be questioned. 93% would not contract the illness at all. Health officials remain concerned as more cases spring up in New Mexico as well.

Starting point is 00:46:49 The new US Secretary of Health, Robert Kennedy Jr., who himself has expressed anti-vax views in the past, said such outbreaks are not unusual, but promised his department would continue to monitor the situation. Okay, so we're getting closer now to some information. Now the whole point of what we're supposed to understand and the meme is first death from measles in 10 years. Our chief medical correspondent, Dr. John Lapoo joins us now and to be clear here, John, measles are seriously contagious. Seriously contagious, yes.

Starting point is 00:47:18 They've been seriously contagious since I was six years old. Yes, you get the measles. So infectious, much more than flu or COVID and on top of that, there's a double whammy, which is relatively long incubation period of 10 to 14 days during which somebody can travel all over the place, even up to four days before getting a rash and infect other people. On top of that, if an infected person leaves the room, the virus can be floating in the air for two hours and infect some unsuspecting vulnerable person who then walks in.

Starting point is 00:47:48 So given all that, John, remind us again of how effective the vaccine has been. Extraordinarily effective. Listen, he has different numbers. Remember, it was 93 just a minute ago. This is another question. Why doesn't one of these reporters should say, well, you know, that's funny you say this whatever the number is going to be, because I've heard this number and that number

Starting point is 00:48:07 and this number and that, what number is it? Can't you guys agree on a number? No, because we're no longer members of the World Health Organization. We don't have the data, you see? Trump pulled this out, we don't have the data. Effective the vaccine has been. Extraordinarily effective,

Starting point is 00:48:20 97% effective at preventing infection. Last one said 97. No, it said 93. Oh 93 right with 7 percent get getting sick now. It's 93 after two doses and This graph the measles vaccine was introduced around. I'm confused 93 97. It's nice. Not 100 percent 1963 that's when it was licensed before then there were about 500,000 reported death reported cases a year and four to five hundred Wait, wait, wait He said reported deaths and then he said reported cases. Did everyone die? No, he corrected himself

Starting point is 00:48:58 Oh, that was a correction because it sounded to me like he didn't correct himself. But let's do said yes It sounded like he said reported deaths't correct himself. But let's do- He said- Yes. It sounded like he said reported deaths, reported cases. Yes, he corrected himself. Did he say, I'm sorry, it's not reported- Yes, yes, yes, but you- Play it again. Interrupted the clip.

Starting point is 00:49:16 Vaccine was introduced around 1963. That's when it was licensed. Before then, there were about 500,000 reported deaths, reported cases a year and 400 to 500 deaths. No. Now look at... He corrected himself. He changed... If you listen to the actual flaw of what he said...

Starting point is 00:49:36 Oh gosh, John, who cares? You know what he's... Yes, he made a mistake. I'm not saying it. Here's the reason I'm making a point of this. Because this slips into the mentality of the you're the listener this Neuro-linguistic programming. Yes, he said five hundred thousand deaths Yes, then he said five hundred thousand cases. Yes, he didn't go five hundred thousand deaths. I'm sorry

Starting point is 00:49:59 I don't mean five hundred thousand deaths. I mean five hundred thousand cases. I was mistaken. He didn't say any of that. No. So he slipped into the public consciousness 500,000 deaths. I don't think it was intentional. Okay. I don't think it was intentional. It's not, it's kind of not the point. The point is that it was a very low percentage of people dying. If you have 500,000 and 500 die, that's like 0.1%. I think it's one per year. It could be. The measles vaccine was introduced around 1963.

Starting point is 00:50:42 That's when it was licensed. Before then, there were about 500,000 reported death, reported cases a year and four to 500 deaths. Now, look at that precipitous drop off. You don't see something like that. And so that's remarkable. Now, I do understand there are people who say, and they've said to me, look, I want to get the vaccine and I don't want to give it to my family. I'm really nice to them.

Starting point is 00:51:04 That's the job for me. But actually, when you say that, when you're considering whether to get the vaccine and I don't want to give it to my family. I'm really nice to them. That's the job for me. But actually when you say that, when you're considering whether to get the vaccine, think about the fact that there are 17 million immunocompromised adults and 2 million immunocompromised children who are relying on you being immunized and getting that herd immunity to not get infected themselves. Okay. Now, so here he's giving it away. The child who died who we know nothing about probably was immunocompromised and you can die from the flu.

Starting point is 00:51:31 You can die from certainly from any respiratory disease. And you know, there's a lot of factors that brought down measles. I'm not so sure it was just the vaccine. It's irrelevant. It's an outbreak. Lester, tonight the FDA took the unusual step of reminding people that the measles vaccine is safe and it's got 50 years of science behind it. But the FDA is very concerned that the measles

Starting point is 00:51:58 have once again emerged as a public health threat. Yeah, it's scary. It's not getting any better. Yes. Scary. Then that was 2019, by the way, when we had over 600 cases of outbreak of measles. This is 124. And then there's this clip. Officials in Washington state confirming one woman died during an outbreak of measles earlier this year. It's the 11th case of measles in Washington state this year, but the first measles death in the US since 2003.

Starting point is 00:52:27 It's doubly tragic in that this was a preventable death. That is 2016, so it's an outright lie that no one has died from measles in the last 10 years, because this is just, I just went on YouTube and just pulled up a clip. It's a lie! Surprise. It's a lie. Everything, this entire thing is a lie. So then. But they can't get what bothers me. Here's the problem I have. At least with the, you know, safe and effective and that phrase we had already, chaos and confusion, there was some coordination. There's

Starting point is 00:52:58 the lack of coordination with the percentage of how how effective it is and how many people died and who died and when they died and you know Outbreak and all the rest of the lack of coordination on the part of the propagandas propagandizers It's kind of it's kind of distressing because it's as though they don't they don't even need to do that They just gonna frighten the public. I think I can explain. The reason why is it used to be coordinated from the CDC direct to the newsrooms. Now it's coordinated by the marketing department of Big Pharma.

Starting point is 00:53:34 They're just saying do more reports on measles and not really giving them the coordinated message. They're just buying airtime. No, because they want to promote vaccines. Exactly. There is nothing more tragic than the death of a child, especially so if the death was preventable. They're just buying air time. You know what? Because they want to promote vaccines. Exactly. There is nothing more tragic than the death of a child, especially so if the death was preventable. Preventable! We don't know that.

Starting point is 00:53:52 With the death of a child in Texas from measles, the first measles death in this country in nearly 10 years. Measles deaths, even measles cases are rare because the disease is preventable with a vaccine that has been available for more than 60 years There is an outbreak of measles in Texas among people who were not vaccinated that includes the child who died in Lubbock So I'm looking at the CDC chart rate of measles cases and deaths in the United States 1919 to 2024.

Starting point is 00:54:26 So in 1919, reported measles cases 175. I'll go to 1937, reported measles 647. Now the death rate was a little bit higher, it was 2.5. But in, so this measles vaccine has been available since 1963. They still had 110 in 1990. There was actually a spike in 2019. That's where that Lester Holt report came from. But the measles death rate is still 0.1%. 0.1% what it's always been. And so there was

Starting point is 00:55:09 an uptick in 2024. It hasn't gone to zero and nor have the deaths gone to zero according to the CDC data for whatever truth that is. So this is just a total hoax story. And to make it even funnier, the CBS guy sits down with this expert outside at two picnic tables 20 feet apart, wearing a mask. You're now seeing very serious consequence of what happens when we have measles in our community. The first measles death in the US in nearly a decade happened here at Covenant Children's Hospital in Lubbock, Texas. The child was school-aged and did not reside in Lubbock County. There are now more than 120 measles cases in Texas. About 20 children have been hospitalized,

Starting point is 00:56:08 some in the ICU. None were vaccinated. Now health officials are racing to stop the spread. We've talked to parents of little ones under one year old who can't get the measles vaccine. What do you tell those worried parents who feel their kids are susceptible and they don't even want to take them out? It's important to communicate with your physician and for infants especially six to 12 months so that population is a little bit different only because we can in certain contexts give the measles vaccine early. Before the MMR vaccine was introduced in 1963, 400 to 500 people died every year. The virus is extremely contagious for those who don't have immunity.

Starting point is 00:56:53 I'm sorry that wasn't the mask clip, but here you hear the messaging which is hey we can give it to your six month old. Come on people, there's an outbreak! On Saturday morning she woke up with a rash. This is the mass clip. Knowing the measles outbreak was near her home in Odessa and that her daughter was too young to be vaccinated, Caitlin Norris took eight month old Poppy to the ER when she developed a fever and rash. She also had the coughing, the runny nose and the rash. So she had a very good amount of all of the symptoms. You're so sicky and you don't even know it

Starting point is 00:57:26 despite her excellent nat pop cbs you know you're sicky you don't even it's beautiful you're so sicky and you don't even know it despite her symptoms poppy's test results came back negative for measles this morning but her mother isn't letting her guard down yet she says the kid didn't have measles.

Starting point is 00:57:45 She was spun up and frightened by you morons. When you start hearing about this in your backyard, what's going through your mind? It's terrifying. I've heard a lot of things about how children have seizures because of the high temperatures of their fevers and brain damage and they die and it's terrifying. Yeah, it's terrifying. Yeah, it's terrifying. Oh my gosh. Just remember everybody, no agenda is your actual vaccine against this nonsense. Because in 1963 they came out with the vaccine and in 1980 we were laughing at the Brady Bunch,

Starting point is 00:58:17 you all got it, including Alice. And they didn't want, they went, oh, I don't want, I don't want a shot. I don't want a shot. Dude, who wants a shot? We get ice cream and comic books. I just want to play. Well, I have one clip on this. This is a from NPR PBS, one of the two, but this is the Texas measles clip. And the reason I want to play this is because it's cause the clip you just

Starting point is 00:58:40 played, not the one just before the one you just played, which they said all, the guy says all of the people have gotten measles, all, the guy says all of them were unvaccinated. Yeah. Do we know that for sure? We don't know anything, but play this version. ...other headlines in Texas where officials announced the first death from a recent measles outbreak. They say the victim was an unvaccinated school-aged child who was hospitalized in West Texas last

Starting point is 00:59:09 week. There are at least 124 confirmed cases of the highly contagious respiratory illness across nine Texas counties. They've been mostly reported among children, many of them unvaccinated. Many of them. Many of them. There you go. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:26 Well, it's going to be at least 7%, maybe 3. We don't know. It's a little bit. Because we don't know anything. So I just add on top of this because we have to have more fear. And this is the opposite of the No Agenda Show. This is a public service to freak you out, to freak out family members of mine when they hear stuff like this.

Starting point is 00:59:48 Bird's-loop continues to cause concern, not just because it's leading to skyrocketing egg prices. Scientists are watching the virus closely and some believe it could become the next major human pandemic. So they keep doing this and they're gonna bring in a perfect guy now. I spoke to biologist David Merriam at MSU Denver who doesn't necessarily agree

Starting point is 01:00:08 But he says it will become a bigger concern if and when we start to see human to human spread So he so she says he doesn't necessarily agree, but don't listen to what I just said. It said there. He's really concerned He's concerned. He's worried. There's concern. Gee,. Gee, it could mutate. Anything could happen. So far we really haven't seen confirmed cases of that. But Mariam says H5N1 can trade genetic material with the H1N1 virus in the body, which would make it a lot more transmissible. So somebody who gets H1N1, which is your standard flu that's coming around right now, somebody gets that.

Starting point is 01:00:44 And then they're also a dairy worker or a chicken worker working with H5N1. It's a chicken, it's like a sex worker for animals, a chicken worker. You'd like H1N1, which is your standard flu that's coming around right now. Somebody gets that, and then they're also a dairy worker or a chicken worker working with H5N1. And now you have both of them in the same person. And that's where you start seeing selective pressure. And that selective pressure is the

Starting point is 01:01:12 sort of thing that could lead to it being more transmissible. Please Doug. People. Yeah, that's why he says it's really important for people to get vaccinated against H1N1. Again, we're talking your standard flu shot. There is a bird flu vaccine for humans. In fact, Canada announced last week it's purchased 500,000 doses of the H5N1 vaccine with the intention of vaccinating high-risk populations like those who work closely with birds or cattle. They're testing the bird flu vaccine on Canadians.

Starting point is 01:01:44 They're testing the bird flu vaccine on Canadians. Don't take it Canada. Are they? That's what she said. Canada bought 500,000 vaccines of the human bird flu vaccine. Don't take it Canada. So there's multiple angles to this. So besides the big pharma, of course, which is the ultimate goal, there's an anti-Trump thing, you know,

Starting point is 01:02:05 egg prices are rising. Trump said they will go down. Oh, egg prices are rising. And there's this very reminiscent of COVID of shutting down parks. H5N1, avian influenza or bird flu. It's been detected again in New Jersey, evidenced by the yellow caution tape

Starting point is 01:02:25 Blocking off parts of Pete Sensei Park in Allentown Borough, Monmouth County They actually have a helicopter shot of the park with it taped off with yellow police tape This is terrorism in the same town Heritage Park has blockades and caution tape It's where New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection has found dead geese. Those animals testing positive for bird flu. One of them tested positive for H5N1. The Burlington County Health Department is monitoring after deceased wild Canada goose found in Pemberton tested positive last week. While there hasn't been any evidence of human spread locally.

Starting point is 01:03:06 The cases that we have seen across the country are primarily in commercial dairy and poultry workers. Shoppers are feeling an impact of the bird flu and egg prices. My husband and I, we spend a lot of time trying to compare prices, whereas find something suitable for home and not spending too much. Our data journalism team found the price of eggs has jumped significantly in six weeks time. At the start of 2025 a carton of large eggs was just under six dollars. Now the same dozen eggs will run you $8.39. In response restaurants like Waffle House and Denny's have implemented egg surcharges.

Starting point is 01:03:45 Oh no! And supermarkets like Costco and Trader Joe's have imposed limits on the number of cartons you can buy. So I talked to a rancher out here and he says, he doesn't have chickens, but he's a rancher, he says, this makes no sense. He says it makes no sense to vaccinate these chickens. The natural course which has happened throughout history is bird flu comes in, chickens get sick, some will survive. The ones that survive you want to keep those

Starting point is 01:04:16 going, keep that lineage going. Killing the whole flock is just dumb. That's what a lot of people say. Well there you go. It just encourages more bird flu. Yeah, you want to breed the chickens, they'll self-breed bird flu out of the system. But whatever you do, be afraid. We have a viewer question today. It came from Facebook. Diane wants to know, with the increase in bird flu cases, is it safe to fill the bird feeders in my yard? Such a good question, right? Because a lot of us have them out in our yards now.

Starting point is 01:04:49 But wildlife experts say that it's okay to maintain a bird feeder in your property or on your property as long as you don't live near a farm or have domestic fowl in your yards, things like chickens and ducks. Of course, you want to wash your hands after you touch your feeder and you want to clean the feeder itself pretty frequently and if you see any dead or sick birds you want to call the Mass Department of Agricultural Resources. Oh yeah, call your local authorities if you see a dead bird. Don't touch the dead birds! It's not a good idea.

Starting point is 01:05:19 Yeah, if you're in Africa you'd eat the thing. All right, and I have a couple of NPR pieces on this because they title this the battle against bird flu. Cut one. Bird flu has been spreading in the United States. Yeah, the first person to die from bird flu is reported last month, and two people were recently hospitalized

Starting point is 01:05:39 in Wyoming and Ohio. The CDC still says the risk to humans is low, but inside the poultry industry, there's a fight brewing over how to take the battle against bird flu to the next level. Kate Wells of Michigan Public and KFF Health News is reporting on all this. Kate, good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Okay, so what are you hearing from egg farmers here?

Starting point is 01:06:00 Yeah, they say that they are just flat out losing this battle against bird flu at this point. They are desperate for new tools at this point. They say what they have been doing to try to contain the outbreak just is not working. I talked with Greg Herbrick. He's the CEO of Herbrick's poultry ranch. It's one of the largest egg producers in the US. And in April, three of his sites got hit with bird flu, one right after the other.

Starting point is 01:06:24 And he ended up having to kill six and a half million chickens. Wow. The mental toll on our team of dealing with that many dead chickens is just, I mean, you can't imagine. And they only have to kill them because the health agencies require it. I don't think that's the choice they would want to make. It's something, who is in charge of this now? Who's in charge, who is the new secretary of agriculture? Well, that question

Starting point is 01:06:51 has to be, well, the secretary, I don't know, but all those questions that you just asked me right there should have been in these reports, right? Let's check out cut two. So he used the USDA, like tried and true playbook here. It's the stamping out method right after detection, like within 24 to 48 hours. The whole flock has to be called. There's a bunch of cleaning and sanitizing and this is to prevent the birds from dying really painful, grisly deaths, but it's also to try to keep the virus. We're trying to be humane to the chickens because you know like killing them

Starting point is 01:07:25 yeah yeah yeah yeah killing in this way is better is better than killing. Give me a break. We're doing it. But it's not grizzly or is it? No. We don't know. Yeah I don't know but we're doing it to think of the chickens. It's from dying really painful grizzly deaths but it's also to try to keep the virus from spreading even further. And this works. Like in the 2014 and 2015 outbreak, ever since then, pharmacists have put in tens of millions of dollars in biosecurity, like employees showering in and out lasers that can stop the potentially infected wild birds from landing. But none of it is working this time.

Starting point is 01:08:00 Why? Of course not, because it's dumb. Well, so flu viruses are constantly evolving, right? Right. Right. And this particular strain of the virus has gotten so good at infecting new species, not just wild birds that migrate, but also more than 40 species of mammals. You've heard about dairy cows, but also dolphins, rats, skunks. Dolphins?

Starting point is 01:08:20 By this point, bird flu is just too... Bird flu is now in dolphins. I have not heard this. By the way, you've got to think up, we've got to start playing one of our jingle clips, the war on chickens. Yes. I think this is all part of it. Yes.

Starting point is 01:08:35 Skunks. And by this point, bird flu is just too embedded in our environment for us to just stamp it out. I also talked with David Swain. He is a former US official. Who is this dingbat? He's one of the leading avian influenza experts. And he says, look, it's time for the US to try vaccinating poultry for birds. He says this is good as a tool, not just to reduce the virus in animals. Here's

Starting point is 01:08:57 Swain. But also a tool that reduces chances for human infection. But egg producers, they will need the green light from the federal government before they can try this. The War on Chicken. Yeah, as a final 30 second here. What about poultry farmers that raise chicken for meat? For meat? Well, so they are very against this vaccination

Starting point is 01:09:26 plan because they could lose billions of dollars a year in trade deals if the US does start vaccinating poultry. And that's because a lot of countries, they don't want to buy meat from a country that is vaccinating any chickens. Those countries are worried that the vaccine can mask symptoms in birds and that the virus could maybe get across their borders in that meat undetected. But the pressure on the US government to do something new is clearly growing. Brooke Rollins is our 33rd Secretary of Agriculture. She didn't mention this report. I don't understand this. We hear enough of this stuff so we can get kind of a broad-based look at things in terms of the reporting.

Starting point is 01:10:11 And she just, what wasn't mentioned is that the chickens who are the meat chickens, there's a different type of farming, the whole thing is different. They're not the same. No. And they haven't had bird flu outbreaks in the meat chicken. That's why chicken meat, you can go buy legs and thighs and breasts and the price has not changed. It may have gone down a few cents. Hmm. Hmm. This has been reported over and over, but I guess it's been forgotten already.

Starting point is 01:10:40 I have a lot of clips with questions for you actually. So we need to talk about oil because there's a massive pivot taking place where people are talking about, now we got to get back and we're not going to, you know, it's not going to work. This green revolution is not happening. We haven't done it fast enough. So we're going to have to go back and start producing more oil. We couldn't go any faster. So this is the report about BP and others. BP's announcement sort of flies in the face of the direction they were heading in, but it seems that they're not alone. That's quite right. So when you look at BP's trajectory back in 2020,

Starting point is 01:11:23 they announced their net zero objectives how they plan to get to net zero by 2050 and it was a plan to reduce oil and gas production by 40% by 2030 and the announcement was as well no new oil and gas exploration in any new currently uninvested in countries. However, since then, profits took a hit in 2024, by which I don't mean it's not being profitable. Profits were just smaller. Dividends were smaller. Oh, oh, oh, curse those rich people. And now they're calling a reset. The new CEO has said this is a reset BP with an unwavering focus on growing long-term shareholder value How does he plan to get that well the pivot is?

Starting point is 01:12:12 boosting fossil fuel investment to ten billion dollars per year Cutting what they call the transition business. So that's all things Evie batteries also hydrogen To just one point five to two billion a year And when you read the announcement you look at the text of it the words they're using for investment in these transition Industries are things like disciplined selective focused and capital light. They're going to keep these investments capital light Which you might say is code for the absolute bare minimum. Yes, code bond genome. Okay, the question is coming, but first we have to hear that not just BP,

Starting point is 01:12:50 but many other large multinationals are just giving up on it. Now, they're not alone, as you say. Just last year Shell announced that they were reducing their green ambitions. They had planned a 45% cut in their carbon intensity by 2035. The new CEO said that any such plans were perilous and scrapped them. More recently, you've got Equinor, the Norwegian oil company who used to be called State Oil, who rebranded in 2018, no doubt to part with that extremely fossil fuel heavy image that they had. They recently announced that they will be halving renewables investment in the next

Starting point is 01:13:31 two years and upping oil and gas production. The reason given, they don't see the necessary profitability in these energies for the future. So this is a whole industry, unashamedly, you might say shamelessly putting profitability overall else, including accompanying the green transition. Yeah. Good luck with your messaging. Oh, they're shamelessly putting profits up against the survival of human nature. So President Trump has said-

Starting point is 01:14:00 The human species, not human nature. Yeah, human species. So President Trump has said drill, baby drill. And CNN brings on some expert and talks about the types of crude oil that we have in the United States and whether we can actually, if we actually have the right kind of oil to make our country run. And I know that you happen to be an absolute expert in this particular area.

Starting point is 01:14:28 Now, you're an expert. You're an expert. I am. Okay, and I'm going to... And I play one on a podcast. Yes, so a pod spurt, if you will. So I'm going to treat you as such. Ladies and gentlemen, we have oil expert John C. Dvorak with us today. John, I want you to listen to this clip and then I want your

Starting point is 01:14:45 expert insight into what they're saying. New CNN reporting this morning shows a problem with President Trump Why are you yelling? According to the president unleashing US drilling would reduce gas prices, reduce America's cost of living and increase the nation's energy independence. CNN chief climate correspondent Bill Weir is here and and the issue, as you report, is drilling for what exactly? Yeah, have you noticed the president leaves facts out sometimes when he makes these grand statements about how we can just get off of all the foreign oil

Starting point is 01:15:16 that comes from Canada, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, these places? One huge problem, not all oil is created equally. Let's talk about the basics. It's everything from sweet light crude, One huge problem, not all oil is created equally. Let's talk about the basics. It's everything from sweet light crude, which is like the champagne of oil, down to heavy sour, which is more like wet coffee grounds, right? This stuff is light and easier to process, and the US pumps a lot of it. We use it to export, and it goes into kerosene and gasoline.

Starting point is 01:15:42 The problem is the country was built on sticky coffee grounds over the years. And so our U.S. refineries are set up to process the heavy dense stuff, the Albertus tar sands. The clue is in the name. It looks like sandy tar and it is processed this way. Meanwhile, along the Gulf of Mexico, a lot of these refineries can deal with more of the lighter champagne stuff. And here's the big problem, John. We produce a lot more champagne than coffee grounds, exporting about 13 million barrels a day of the light sweet stuff while importing about half that much from these other countries. So again, the idea that we could shut off

Starting point is 01:16:22 imports from Canada and not feel the ramifications it would completely upend the refinery system and would drive gas prices through the ceiling. It's just not what we're built for. Exactly. The infrastructure is not here. All right I'm gonna bring in our resident expert now John C. Dvorak he is a podcaster and a columnist and John we we'd like to know, can we actually, wait, can we, I'm doing your intro. Oh, I'm sorry. A podcaster and columnist, John C. Dvorak.

Starting point is 01:16:51 And John, what you just heard there, can you give us some insight into whether it is actually the champagne of oil that we cannot refine or the coffee ground of oil that we can refine that will keep this country moving? We go to John. All right. Okay, so here's, refineries can handle pretty much, except for refineries that are specialized in the champagne style of what he's talking about,

Starting point is 01:17:17 super sweet oil, which is like Bolivian, for example. Those guys, they set up shop to do that kind of oil because it's harder to take this crappy sour which means it's full of sulfur is what that refers to and it stinks. And you have to run it through a more elaborate system to get the sulfur out and to crack it and to refine it and the cracking processes to break it down. The sweet stuff, all refineries can take you that stuff because it's easy to process. You run it right through and you bypass some of the cracking gear if you have to. It doesn't make any difference.

Starting point is 01:17:57 It's the best stuff. That guy's full of crap. All the refineries. I don't know of a refinery that wouldn't prefer nothing but sweet because it's a pain in the ass to break down the other stuff. So, wait, CNN was lying? No, they were ignorant. Let's go to another clip from CNN. This is about the oil companies who of course were all against CapEx and new investments in drilling because Wall Street wanted to have revenue and not investment. That's according to the oil baron I will have to talk to him about this and how do they will companies feel about these calls to drill drill drill more? Do they feel like they can well it all comes down to economics the price of a barrel of oil the projections

Starting point is 01:18:44 You know it takes 10 years sometimes to get a well operating. And so they're looking over at China. Or almost half of the new cars sold are electric. They're looking at oil demands around the world, how they might sink. Oh crap. What? Half of the new cars sold are electric?

Starting point is 01:19:01 That's not even close. Maybe 10%, I think. It's definitely not half. This is, this is bogative. Cars sold are... Let That's not even close. Maybe 10% I think. It's definitely not half. This is bogative. Cars sold are electric. China. You said in China. In China.

Starting point is 01:19:11 Oh, in China. Yeah, it's true in China. Looking over at China, where almost half of the new cars sold are electric. They're looking at oil demands around the world, how they might sink, petrochemicals, plastics, all of those calculations are going into how they do this. So there's- But what are the plastics made of, champagne or coffee grounds?

Starting point is 01:19:30 You can make it out of anything. Okay. It's not a huge demand. There's not sort of, you know, he was prom, these oil CEOs were promised complete carte blanche deregulation, but they're not, they're not exactly chomping at the bit to open new wells. And we're talking about wells, we're not talking about shale or are we talking about both?

Starting point is 01:19:48 Shale oil, a big fracking boom has led to a massive spike in natural gas which is a different kind of fuel of course and a lot more of the sweet light champagne that comes out of those fracking wells. Right you've made me thirsty. Bill Weir, thank you very much. But you'll have to say that every barrel of this stuff that gets pumps and burns most is closer to a climate crisis. And alternatives now are cheaper than the petrochemicals.

Starting point is 01:20:11 So something to keep in mind. So there's that too. In addition to everything else. All right. So they're full of crap. Full of crap. I don't know what the point of that report was. Just to slam Trump.

Starting point is 01:20:29 Yeah. Well, no. And let's not forget, the thing is that they'd never bring up, and I don't know why this is, because I bring it up and it doesn't benefit the Republicans, that's for sure, is that during the Biden administration, we've drilled more and pumped more than ever before. The whole time it was a lie. Oh, we're going to move away from fossil fuels. It's just the opposite happened.

Starting point is 01:20:49 But no one wants to bring that up because they don't want to bring up the hypocrisy of it all. They don't want to bring up the price. That fact that I think Exxon doubled the stock price, double Exxon is doing nothing but kicking ass because they never bought into a lot of the green stuff and they just pumping oil out of the ground. Like there's no tomorrow. And the stock went through the roof during the Biden administration, but nobody even brings any of that up.

Starting point is 01:21:12 It's baffling to me. What gambling? Please. I'm baffled. I'm totally baffled. Well, the baffling move is the unprecedented move that this White House has made by saying they are going to select who can be in the press room, who can be in the Oval Office, because as you know, if you can't be in there, you can't report to the American people.

Starting point is 01:21:45 Although I find that an interesting argument because as far as I can tell, it's streamed live on every platform known to man whenever there's a press conference and whenever the president is sitting in his Oval Office. But this is very controversial and it's going to ruin the geek party known as the White House Correspondents Dinner because it seems they're just going to have to fall apart. A select group of DC based journalists should no longer have a monopoly over the privilege of press access at the White House.

Starting point is 01:22:16 All journalists, outlets and voices deserve a seat at this highly coveted table. So by deciding which outlets make up the limited press pool on a day to day basis, the White House will be restoring power back to the American people who President Trump was elected to serve. We can now bring in Jodie Ginsburg, Chief Executive Officer of the Committee to Protect Journalists who joins us from New York. Thank you so much for joining us on the program today. Your reaction to this latest move from the White House? This is a terrible move, to be honest. The way that the press pool works is that those who are in the press pool, which as you say is a small group of

Starting point is 01:22:51 people because you can't have the 800 journalists who are members of the White House Correspondents Association all crowd into a room with the president everywhere he goes, they provide information to everybody else. So all of the news about the president that people get from their local radio stations, for example, or in their regional newspapers will have come very often from the press pool. And it's vital that those are independently selected, that they're not in the gift of the president and the administration whom they are covering. Why do this now? Well, this has come, it's believed in reaction to something that the Associated Press, one

Starting point is 01:23:31 of the wire news agencies, again a service that many other news outlets use, I imagine including France 24 has done, which it is said in its style guide, which is used by many, many news organizations, it will continue to call the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of Mexico. Donald Trump has said that within America it should be known as the Gulf of America and has barred the associated by a strong call and this seems to be an extension of that. What it is is an attempt to exert more and more control over the press and over the information that the public receives. So even though this was filmed ads for the people, actually this is not serving the people at all. It's not serving the people. It's not serving the people at all. Why won't the,

Starting point is 01:24:20 what did, what bug or hair crawled up the AP's butt that they won't just call it the Gulf of America? I mean, why is this, why are they, to quote your phrase, dying on this hill? Well, there was somebody obviously at the operation in the higher up saying, you know, why are we gonna be pushed around and be told what to do?

Starting point is 01:24:40 We'll call it what we wanna call it. And the White House took offense, and the next thing you know, there's some snowball you get to somebody finally took a I always thought it was corrupt that you had one group one lone group the White House Press Association I guess is what it's called. Mm-hmm, which used to be run by John Karl over at CBS or ABC John Karl ran it. He was a Trump hater.

Starting point is 01:25:07 And they get to pick and choose who gets to go in there and what they get to ask to the point where they're almost scripting the questions. And the whole thing is a scam in some way and it should be open to any bloggers, anyone who wants to, who can find their way in there. And besides that, it's like, you're right. It's being streamed. Yeah. I mean, of course the AP can't ask questions if, if they're not in the room. When's the last time the AP, I mean, how often does the AP ask questions?

Starting point is 01:25:36 I don't know. I don't know. It's usually, you know, the guys in front, CBS, ABC, NBC, sometimes OAN, and you know, a few other people will ask the questions and I don't know. I think that's making them, I think it's an association that had control and they lost control and now they're whining. Yeah. Okay. Now you should hear some of the press people that are, Oh, they should, they, this spineless press, this is from journalists who are activists,

Starting point is 01:26:09 the spineless press, they should all walk out and stop covering Trump because Trump, Trump will, because he needs attention, he's like a big baby, he needs so much attention that if they all walked out and didn't show up, then he would die on the vine. They, you're right, they are spineless because they'll never do that because they know they're already mortally wounded. The elite messaging system is completely broken. Do you remember the first,

Starting point is 01:26:38 I was just thinking about this the other day, see if I have a clip of it, when President Trump ran the first time and he was the laughing stock, this was what was going on at the time, 2015. We need to talk about this because I think you guys have made a mistake. Yeah, so I mean nobody can deny that Donald Trump is partly where he is in the polls because of the media coverage. Yeah. And our big statement is that Donald Trump is not a serious candidate, he's an entertainer.

Starting point is 01:27:03 But you can't do that. You were new, like you along with the Huffington Post Washington bureau chief is Ryan Grim. Our big statement is that Donald Trump is not a serious candidate, he's an entertainer. But you can't do that. You along with the Huffington Post Washington bureau chief is Ryan Grim. You wrote this month or last month explaining your decision not to cover the campaign of Donald Trump as part of your political coverage. And that's what you said. You said Trump's campaign is a sideshow. We won't take the bait.

Starting point is 01:27:21 If you're interested in what the Donald has to say, you'll find it next to our stories on the Kardashians and the Bachelorette. Okay, except... You remember that? When all they did was cover the truth. I do remember that. They made a big fuss about it. Entertainment section. Yeah, exactly. So, although that was Huffington Post, it wasn't AP, but it's all part of the same system. These guys suck. Alright, I have a little bit of outrage and then I want to explain what's going on because it's just marketing but that's not what the view ladies hear. Yesterday the White House announced a brand new path to US residency with an expensive

Starting point is 01:28:02 toll. Take a look. Take a look. Take a look. Take a look. Take a look. We're going to be selling a gold card. You have a green card. This is a gold card.

Starting point is 01:28:12 We're going to be putting a price on that card of about $5 million, and that's going to give you green card privileges plus it's going to be a route to citizenship. And wealthy people will be coming into our country by buying this card. They'll be wealthy and they'll be successful and they'll be spending a lot of money and paying a lot of taxes and employing a lot of people and we think it's going to be extremely successful. Would a Russian oligarch be eligible for a gold card?

Starting point is 01:28:39 Yeah, possibly. Hey, I know some Russian oligarchs that are very nice people. Oh no. Hey, I know some Russian oligarchs that are very nice people You know Remember when Elon bought America Yeah, yeah, he could have saved money with this the way that he talks about it It makes it sound like America's for sale to the highest bidder I don't like that but what I will say this is a, hold on. Are we selling the country to the high... Yes, yes.

Starting point is 01:29:07 I thought they were selling a citizenship to the country, not the country itself. No, we're selling off piece and pieces. Did I mishear something? No, you heard them right, but this is part of what they do. This is their job. Expansion on the existing EB-5 visa program. I have some questions because those are basically meant to incentivize the best and brightest to come to America to create jobs here to hire people, contribute tax revenue. But I want to know is there national security vetting? So yes, could a terrorist organization

Starting point is 01:29:35 or a Russian oligarch come in? And then just again, don't make it sound like we're for sale, make it sound like you want to come here because you want to be in America. Now, well, you said it sounded like like we were for sale. But if you really look at what President Trump has done here, it's just a rebrand of an existing program and it's not unique to America. More on that plan. Let's cross live now to Fraser Jackson, our correspondent in Washington. So Fraser, we heard they're from Donald Trump.

Starting point is 01:30:02 Russian oligarchs may be eligible. What more do we know? Well, as you heard there, Donald Trump said the immigration program, which he said was legal, would be open potentially to possible Russian oligarchs. He said that they could potentially qualify for the gold cards. He said that he expects this program to be up and running in about two weeks. Now, it should be noted that there is already a similar program in effect here in the United States. It's called the EB-5 Immigrant Investor Visa and if you remember during the first

Starting point is 01:30:31 term Donald Trump said that he was going to be raising the minimum for that card from 1 million to 1.8 million. Well that entire system has now been scrapped entirely and seemingly replaced by this gold card system where the buy-in fee is effectively five million dollars. It's also not only a US kind of thing. We have seen this in multiple other countries around the world. It exists in Canada. It also exists in places closer to home in the UK, sorry, in the EU rather, like places

Starting point is 01:30:59 like Spain, Portugal and Malta as well. So nothing completely new here from Donald Trump, effectively just raising the bar that it costs to get into the United States. But the line about the oligarchy will likely be picked up upon by the more, the more progressive parts of the United States political spectrum. Yeah. Like the view. Exactly. It's an existing program. It's called the EBM, I think EBM five. And not like Sonny Hosten said is based on merit. No, it was about a million bucks, million and a half,

Starting point is 01:31:27 and he's just rebranded it to the gold card and called it five. Yeah, it added some money to it. This has been going on in Canada forever during the 1997 Hong Kong turnover. I think Australia too. The Hong Kongers were moving to Canada, especially BC, by the dust,

Starting point is 01:31:44 and I think it was only $250,000. You know what Trump should do? If I were the president, I would say you have the green card, we all know that's hard to come by. You have the gold card, and then you can get the USA plus bundle. Platinum card too. Platinum, you get a tote bag,

Starting point is 01:32:04 you get a tour of the White House, and you get a newsletter. He should keep going with that. It's very entertaining. And we're all upset about it. How can we do four more years of this? I don't know if I can handle this media. They're so out of control. They're so charged up.

Starting point is 01:32:24 They're going to have to. They're so charged up. They're going to have to, I hate to use the word, I'm going to use it. They're going to have to pivot. Why would they? They're succeeding. They're succeeding. Yes.

Starting point is 01:32:39 Because if they have their asses handed to them, and in the midterms they're gonna have to pivot. I mean, there's some signs of it now with the so-called middle range Democrats, mid-road Democrats, whatever they wanna call themselves. I will, I should play this clip. This is not the same, it's kind of the same kind of thing. There's a group that's just started up.

Starting point is 01:33:06 If you remember the Lincoln Project and some of these Trump haters, these Republicans. Well, there's a new group that just started up and there's a, I got a very short one minute clip, less than a minute about it from NPR. And they just had their first conference. It's called principles first okay wait wait yeah waiting the principles first is conservative

Starting point is 01:33:32 Republicans who believe in the old Barry Goldwater style conservatism real republicanism they don't like what Trump's done to the party they want to go back to the old ways the old old ways from 1964, none dare call it treason era. And so they've put together, it's just a bunch of Trump haters, let's face it, because most of the guys who were in that period. Why don't they just start a group called Trump Haters United, you know, THU? Just do it, just call it what it is. I agree. Anyway, it what it is. I agree.

Starting point is 01:34:05 Anyway, here's the clip. Former Republican U.S. Attorney General Alberto González says President Trump's decision to pardon January 6 rioters is a betrayal of the American justice system. NPR's Sarah McCammon reports González made the comments during a gathering of anti-Trump conservatives in Washington, D.C. Alberto Gonzalez served as White House counsel and then United States Attorney General under President George W. Bush. Speaking at the principal's first summit in Washington, D.C., Gonzalez criticized several Trump administration decisions.

Starting point is 01:34:40 It is a betrayal to the men and women at the Department of Justice who were fired because they participated in the prosecution of the January 6th riders. Gonzalez went on to criticize Trump's decision to pardon some 1500 people convicted in connection with the attack on the Capitol in 2021. He said the president has that power under the law, but said it was, quote, the wrong thing to do. Okay. Well, that's about all they had to report on it, but this has been, this little operation

Starting point is 01:35:13 is something to keep an eye on. And what are they called again? Principals first. Principals first. As in, high school principals, which it seems is what they're kind of thinking like, but they mean the principles of true conservativism versus Trumpism. And they think that Trump's a bad guy. Yeah, no, he's horrible. So I want to go to Doge for a second, because I do have a question for you as a former government

Starting point is 01:35:43 employee. I do have a question for you as a former government employee, but first, probably for one of the last times, and we did see her crying on TikTok. Did you see Joy Reid crying on TikTok? Oh, everybody saw Joy Reid crying on TikTok. My best is the side-by-side where she, they have a clip of her ridiculing people who cry, and then her crying. I feel bad for her.

Starting point is 01:36:06 So I'm not going to play that, but I'm going to play one of her, I think her last show was this Friday. So here she is on the resistance, Americans, America finding ways to resist, resist doge. This regime- Regime. That we find ourselves living under

Starting point is 01:36:22 is producing massive chaos and trauma in the lives of federal workers and in the country. Chaos and trauma, no good. Just look at this latest round of protests at Tesla dealerships, at town halls. America is resisting in large ways and small. America is saying no to Elon Musk running us. No! We do not want him in charge, period.

Starting point is 01:36:45 And Donald Trump, the guy who handed his biggest donor the keys to the whole federal government for him to do whatever he pleases with it, is underwater in every single poll. From Gallup to the Washington Post, to CNN, to Reuters, you name it, other than his name, nobody wants this chaos. Well, since you brought that up, I think it's hilarious. Do I have it here?

Starting point is 01:37:06 I had a clip of CNN talking about it because they have a poll now. They've got all kinds of polls. But let me finish with Joy Reid because she mentioned some blatant anti-Trump news organizations there and they have their polls and all the country hates it. We resist it, large and small. Everyone ever says, no, we don't want Elon running anything, no. Give me an assessment from your expert point of view of the resistance that we're seeing in the country

Starting point is 01:37:33 to all of the Doge Elon Musk Trump chaos. Yeah, so as we know, we don't have a big generalized nonviolent mass protest, but we have righteous indignation breaking out spontaneously. Righteous indignation, there's a couple of terms coming up, right? Like righteous indignation, that's a good one. Breaking out spontaneously all over the nation and I really believe that there's a reckoning that's going to come. Because what's happening now at the hands of literally the world's richest man who has taken control of our government and is using it to enrich himself and investigating, he's, you know, destroying agencies that have been

Starting point is 01:38:16 investigating his companies. This brings forth such it like it brings to a peak all of the unfairness of neoliberalism, all of the kind of the rich get richer, and that's one part of authoritarianism. It's fewer rights for the many and way more liberties for the few. And so we're seeing a kind of indignation and anger that's erupting at local town halls in front of GOP members of Congress in their town halls. And so this is a very good sign of something larger that I believe will come. All right. So now is the term that I'm sure you know more about than most.

Starting point is 01:39:02 As Elon Musk and the Department of Government Efficiency, and the Trump administration more broadly, make efforts to reform government and eliminate needless waste, fraud and abuse, they're coming up against predictably negative press coverage from the mainstream media, which is often sympathetic to government employees and hostile toward efforts to reduce the size and scope of government. That's why you'll often see, read, and hear stories about how some attempt or another by Trump or Elon to change or mandate a new system or eliminate it is resulting in headaches for various people.

Starting point is 01:39:34 For instance, you might have read last week that Doge's efforts to reduce the federal workforce as it pertains to the US park system was creating long lines. The Washington Post complained that the Trump administration had gotten rid of the only locksmith at Yosemite National Park. He was described as the only employee with, quote, institutional knowledge needed to rescue visitors from locked restrooms. Sounds serious, right? Elsewhere you'll see constant complaints from media that attempts to reduce the federal

Starting point is 01:40:03 bureaucracy, will hamstring our efforts to fight diseases, or have nuclear safety, or keep airplanes in the sky. But what if there was something not entirely genuine about these difficulties? What if the federal bureaucracy, sensing a threat to its self-preservation, was making things as awful as possible in order to scare the American people into thinking government can only function if it is vast and unaccountable. We actually have a term for this. It's called malicious compliance. It's when someone follows a new rule so closely without applying common sense such that they

Starting point is 01:40:37 ultimately work against the rule's stated purpose deliberately. Okay, malicious compliance. Is this a term you're familiar with? Actually, no, but I know the process because it's been done. It's a standard operating procedure for anyone unionized. It's called slowdown. Ah, yeah, slowdown. Right. Everyone's heard of that. But I did malicious compliance when I was working in the private sector as an inspector for trail mobiles. An interesting story. This used to be one guy in the line of the line I was inspecting who was kind of an amateur comedian and I'd spent a lot of time chatting with him until one day the

Starting point is 01:41:19 foreman of that line, the manufacturing guy, wasn't my my form, he wasn't my supervisor, but he comes up to me and he says, you know, you're, he chewed me out for wasting this guy's time chatting with him. And so it was like, okay, you want to play that way? I went back to the line and started tagging, because there's lots of flaws that most inspectors just overlook because you don't-

Starting point is 01:41:43 Wait, was this when you were a Canon inspector? No, no, this is cargo containers. Oh, you expected cargo containers too? Yes, I did. Wow. For Pacific, for Matson Pacific, whatever that company is, there's a bunch of different ones. But in this case, they were aluminum. And so these containers would come through and I would just start tagging everything little any little flaw

Starting point is 01:42:08 Which normally you let pass because you know, you got to get these things out. You can't just because you everything's flawed and so I just covered these these containers with with these red tags and it's Basically stopped the line because you have to go back and fix all this stuff even though it's diddly shit. And so the guy within just a few hours, it didn't take that long, this foreman comes up to me and apologizes profusely for chewing me out and saying, you can do it, you know, I'm sorry. And he was just bending, he was just almost in tears.

Starting point is 01:42:45 And that's what you can do if you're one of these types of people like me. So I can see malicious compliance. I never did anything like that when I was working for the government. But I can see how you can do it. So in these days of Schedule F, if someone's, if government workers think that malicious compliance is the way, they may find themselves getting canned. Well I wasn't worried about getting canned for what I did at the trail mobile line. No but if they're locking restrooms. I disagree with that I think most of the time especially if you go with the way they described as malicious compliance in

Starting point is 01:43:23 other words going by the book. Yeah. It's very hard to can somebody when they can point at the regulations and say, look, this is what it says to do. I know we haven't been doing this, but now that I'm worried about my job, I'm going to do this because it says I'm supposed to. So that's what I'm doing. Why are you firing me? Mm. Okay. This is what you can do this. It's doable and it works. Of course the question is how much resistance is there?

Starting point is 01:43:53 Are people really upset? Is this just magnification by the M5M? It's magnification totally because everything I've seen so far is it's mostly employees on probation that don't know how to pull these stunts. Hold on a second. Hold on. We have data. We have data. We have data that people hate Elon Musk and Doge. Data incoming CNN. Not anecdotes or not data, but we're starting to get some data. The anecdotes are not data.

Starting point is 01:44:20 Yeah, well, here it is. She's got data. Not anecdotes or not data, but we're starting to get some data that puts numbers behind this with 51% of respondents in a recent CNN poll saying that President Trump's efforts. So they bring in a CNN poll, which is the same as the smirkonish. It's like, well, just put some numbers together. We have a CNN poll, we're CNN, we have a CNN poll, we don't like Trump, here's our data.

Starting point is 01:44:44 Puts numbers behind this with 51% of respondents in a recent CNN poll saying that President Trump's efforts to cut federal programs have gone too far. 54% say they do not support him giving Elon Musk this prominent role. And a full 53% are afraid or pessimistic about the rest of his term. Oh, the data is in, the data is in. Yeah, it's horrible. Oh, likely the public's not watching CNN. No. So I heard an interesting stat on,

Starting point is 01:45:20 it was actually on Fox News from this economist. I think it may be investor economist dude, Gary Kaltbaum, ever hear of him? No. And the thing is, there's so much, what's the term, there's so much difference in the numbers that everybody's giving on everything, just like measles and the efficacy of the measles vaccine.

Starting point is 01:45:46 How much money do we actually send to Ukraine, which is another one of those. Remember, they kept sending 40 billion here, 40 billion there. It was like this the same number, 40 billion, 40 billion. So you could you kind of lose track of how many times we sent 40 billion. And so some say the president says 500, then it's 350. Zelensky, Macron says, no, no, no, we sent 60% of all the money. Everyone's all over the map with these numbers. And then there's also the Trump, he spent $7 trillion during his first term, $8 trillion. And here's the guy, Kaltbaum, talking about what was

Starting point is 01:46:26 spent during the Biden administration. I think the best move would be to first take down the debt, take down the size of government, which by the way, is up 60 some odd percent since the year before COVID. That's our government spending and has quadrupled since the year 2000, which is quite the insanity. The biggest bull market and the biggest inflation we do have is the size of our government that went unchecked with absolutely zero accountability whatsoever. So it is about time somebody's in there. And the more I see people complain, the more I know that they're probably in the soup and have been a big part of it. I think he's probably right. No, he's completely right. But the thing is I keep falling back on my thesis,

Starting point is 01:47:16 which is that this is just a giant jobs program to keep us out of the drink. What do you mean? How does it keep us out of the drink? Well, you're putting money back in circulation. You're keeping people employed. You're keeping them off the streets. You're doing everything you can to keep things propped up. And you end up with the amounts to being a jobs program. And then if you try to straighten it out, it's going to cause an economic collapse at some point. 2026 is my prediction. Well, we always said that as we were looking the ramp up to this election with President

Starting point is 01:47:53 Trump, we always said the Democrats probably want him to win because the crap is coming, everybody knows it, everybody sees it, and they want him to deal with it. And I think he knows it too. And it's probably coming. You might be right, he might know it. I think it's coming. Well, let's talk about migration for a moment, as we have a big change in New York City. Over the last two years, the Roosevelt Hotel has been the first stop for more than 173,000 immigrants

Starting point is 01:48:24 in search of the American dream, which is now set to shut its doors in June. Today marks another milestone. Mayor Eric Adams making the announcement early Monday morning on social media. We are now in a place where we are asking, well, where do people go? This 38-year-old mother of three arrived from Peru

Starting point is 01:48:42 two months ago. No, no, no, no, no. They haven't told. No, she says they haven't told us anything. On the contrary, they told me they heard those rumors in the news that we should be calm. They're not going to move us. They haven't told us anything about getting us out of here or that they're going to close the Roosevelt. But the number of migrants in the city's care dramatically dropping over the last year after the city implemented a 60 day stay limit, purchased 53,000 tickets for migrants to relocate to other cities and help

Starting point is 01:49:12 nearly 100,000 asylum seekers apply for work authorizations. Not to mention the fears sparked by the recent immigrant crackdown factoring into a decline in new arrivals. Now the closing of the Roosevelt Hotel comes just a week after Deputy Mayor Anne Williams-Issam who has overseen asylum seekers over the last two years. It comes right after that so it's a timely announcement. Right now we know that 53 shelters will be closing by mid-year and how exactly they're going to wind down operations here at the Roosevelt Hotel remains to be seen. This is going to be interesting. That is such a

Starting point is 01:49:51 prime piece of real estate. Will they bring back a fleabag motel as the Roosevelt or turn it into a five-star luxury thing? Well, in that report is something that I have in another report too. Well, in that report is something that I have in another report too. These are asylum seekers, I think mostly. Is that what we're talking about here? Because you brought them in. What is what the families from Peru? What's going on in Peru? It's a problematic country.

Starting point is 01:50:17 By the way, Peru, interestingly enough, if you look at download statistics from podcasts, there's always a lot of downloads in Peru, but yet we get no donations from Peru. We don't have any, because there's nothing happening in Peru, except some farm that's putting numbers up for the Midas Touch podcast. The podcast industrial complex, the Midas Touch.

Starting point is 01:50:39 It's bull crap. You worked in a company that did that. No, I cannot confirm or deny. So, well, let's talk, if we're going to talk about these refugees, I get the refugee problem on PBS. I got a four-parter here that's kind of interesting. Let's play these. A federal judge in Seattle has blocked President Trump's executive order halting the admission of refugees into the U.S. The judge said the administration had likely exceeded its authority by freezing the US refugee admissions program,

Starting point is 01:51:09 which was established by Congress back in 1980. It remains to be seen whether the administration will comply while a lawsuit challenging the ban filed by some of the country's largest resettlement organizations works its way through the courts. We're joined now by Mark Hetfield. He's the president of HIAS. That's the country's oldest refugee resettlement agency.

Starting point is 01:51:30 And the organization's also a plaintiff in that lawsuit. Thanks for being with us. Thank you, Jeff. So first, help us understand what the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program is. How does the program work and who does it aim to assist? Sure. So the program was started in 1980 by the Refugee Act of 1980 to provide a safe and

Starting point is 01:51:49 legal pathway for people fleeing persecution or war or conflict to come to the United States to either join with family or to meet foreign policy, humanitarian policy priorities of the United States government. So what was the material impact of this suspension? How were the refugees affected in your employees as well? It was devastating. And this was not just a mere suspension like it was in the first Trump term. This was a complete dismantlement of the refugee program because not only did all refugees,

Starting point is 01:52:22 not only were all refugees stopped from arriving, but also all of the processing offices were shut down, everything was defunded. So it's gonna be almost impossible to start it back up. And in terms of the actual impact, for example, my agency had 621 refugees who were vetted by Homeland Security, approved by Homeland Security, had plane tickets in hand,

Starting point is 01:52:47 were supposed to arrive in February, but they're not coming. Oh man, I love this organization. This is another religious-based organization. This is the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, who in 2023, I'm gonna look up the 990 while we play the next clip, had $128 million in receipts.

Starting point is 01:53:11 So, way to go. Do-gooders. They're very do-gooders. Okay, let's go to the next clip. The plane tickets were literally snatched out of their hands. So when you say it's nearly impossible to restart this work, tell me more about that. Well, to resettle refugees you're gonna have to have people that that prepare their applications, that assist them overseas, that give them

Starting point is 01:53:33 cultural orientation, that book their plane tickets, that then receive them here in the United States, which is what my agency, HIAS, does along with the other non-resettlement agencies. All of those things were completely defunded. Your organization is a Jewish organization. Many of the resettlement organizations are faith organizations. How does faith inform the work that you do? Well, in the Torah, 36 times it's repeated

Starting point is 01:53:59 to welcome the stranger, to love the stranger as ourselves, for we were once strangers ourselves. And so it's really a fundamental part of our history and of our values, and not just going back to the holy books, but also our more recent experience in the 20th century, 21st century. The Jewish people are a people who know displacement, and so we are naturally empathetic.

Starting point is 01:54:22 I'm sure, as you know, Vice President JD Vance recently accused the US Conference of Catholic Bishops of profiting off its work, resettling refugees. Do you or any of the organizations profit off this work? Is that even a motive of yours? No. Nah. Ha ha ha.

Starting point is 01:54:39 $25 million in salaries says differently, as far as I'm concerned, just looking at their 2023 990. You know, this is the same with the Lutherans, although the Lutheran church distanced themselves from the Lutheran refugee program saying, well, you know, that thing was put together after World War II and we don't have anything to do with it. They just use the Lutheran name, which I'm sure is exactly what Hius is as well. This is a giant scam and the Catholic Bishops Conference.

Starting point is 01:55:13 Yeah, right. There's some nice salaries here. And good parties, good parties, good parties. So clip three has a contradictory piece of information that I found interesting. This is a labor of love. This is something we have to raise money for because we can't possibly do it on the funding that the federal government gives us. It is a public-private partnership and so now we've raised lots of funding to welcome refugees. Public-private partnership, that's good.

Starting point is 01:55:44 So we have to raise money because we can't make it on the government money. We need to raise money. So wait a minute, then what difference does it make that the government cuts you off? Yeah. Yeah, no, I hear the contradiction, exactly. And so now we've raised lots of funding to welcome refugees to the United States and now none of them are coming, including refugees who themselves are fleeing religious persecution. Oh, so now you have to get a real job.

Starting point is 01:56:11 That sucks. Because you know, I think the government, something like $1,700 per person they place and they're just placing people. They're not housing people, as far as I know, most of these organizations don't. They place people. And there's another thing in here, the highest foundation. There's a lot of things going on here. In this show we have a term for this called sketchy.

Starting point is 01:56:38 Sketchy, yes. And then they have the highest and council migration service. Wow. Yeah, they talk people into coming. So let's go to the last part. People who supported us in Afghanistan, people who supported US veterans and risked their lives or who worked for the US embassy in Kabul, they can't come. People whose families were separated by conflict or war, those parents and children will remain

Starting point is 01:57:03 separated indefinitely. Those kids are essentially being orphaned by this Trump administration policy. The administration and its executive order argued that the United States lacks the ability to absorb large numbers of migrants and in particular refugees into its communities in a manner that does not compromise the availability of resources for Americans. This is an argument the administration makes fairly often, that resources are finite. What's your reaction to that? My reaction is that that's an argument that the Trump administration made in 2017 and

Starting point is 01:57:36 that they themselves proved was fallacious. In 2017 in the Muslim and refugee ban, President Trump commissioned a study to demonstrate how much resettled refugees cost the American taxpayer. But they looked at both sides of the ledger when they did that study, and they found that over a 10-year period, resettled refugees contributed 63 billion, with a B,

Starting point is 01:58:00 dollars more in federal, state, and local taxes than they took in services and assistance. So fortunately for us, while we welcome refugees because it's the right thing to do, it just also happens to be to the benefit of the economy, to the benefit of the country. Refugees are a blessing. They're not a burden. I love how he starts off by saying, you know, we looked at what it costs the American public and then without answering that he says, but they, they, they really give us more to the economy than it costs without saying what it

Starting point is 01:58:30 costs. Again, this is typical. Yeah. They never report on numbers. They never give us numbers. No, you have to go into the, into the nine 90, but you see there's a lot of money going around. This is actually one of the smaller ones. What was the one in Austin that Obama opened? Austin. And it was like a billion dollars a year.

Starting point is 01:58:54 Yeah. This is good stuff. Yeah. If you want to, it's good business. To go on with it, with what's hit the horrors of this, we have some clips of what's going on with the Costa Rica movement. This is kind of interesting. Costa Rica movement.

Starting point is 01:59:10 Yeah. They're moving people through Costa Rica for one reason or another, which I guess they've been doing for a long time. And this will be the clip will be Costa Rica BS one. President Trump made carrying out the largest mass deportation in US history, Costa Rica last week, descending through a cloud of uncertainty. On board were 135 people deported from the plane, and the plane landed in San Jose,

Starting point is 01:59:32 Costa Rica, the last week. The plane landed in San Jose, Costa Rica, the last week. The plane landed in San Jose, Costa Rica, the last week.

Starting point is 01:59:42 The plane landed in San Jose, Costa Rica, the last week. The plane landed in San Jose, Costa Rica last week, descending through a cloud of uncertainty. On board were 135 people deported from the U.S. on a journey back to their home countries or somewhere else. None are Costa Rican citizens. There are 65 children and 70 adults. They are families. Costa Rica is committed to voluntarily returning deportees to their country of origin in up

Starting point is 02:00:08 to 30 days. The group, hailing from as far away as China, Vietnam and Ghana, were then bused to a rural holding facility paid for by the U.S. Costa Rica became the second Central American country after Panama to serve as a stopover for unauthorized migrants being removed from the US by the Trump administration. Panama accepted almost 300 deportees who were initially held under armed guard in this Panama City hotel.

Starting point is 02:00:39 Images of that group stuck inside, unable to leave, made headlines last week. We are providing them with all the necessary medical food and comfort services and we will continue to do so until the last one has left our country, which is what was agreed with the United States government. I never heard of this. Yeah. Yeah, we've done some deals to get people around. But who did the deals? Who did these deals? I think it was largely Rubio at the behest of Trump. But Rubio, anything that's got to do with anything south of the

Starting point is 02:01:14 border has got to be Rubio. He's just definitely a Western Hemisphere guy. Clip two, by the way, has an ad set. Yeah, I see it. More than half agreed to be returned to their home countries. Ninety seven were sent to a facility in the Darien Gap, a treacherous point of passage at Panama's southern border with Colombia, which is used by many migrants. Susana Sabalza is a Panamanian migration lawyer representing a Taiwanese family, including a child under five who were sent to the Darien facility. Do you have any understanding as to what the conditions are like in that facility?

Starting point is 02:01:53 Okay. I stopped it there because Taiwanese family? Is there something going on in Taiwan? Yes, very troubling country. Or TSMC. Lots of problems. You know, it's heating up. China's going to invade any day now.

Starting point is 02:02:10 Come on into America. You are a refugee. I'm just not getting it. We had the Peruvian in the other clip and now we got these Taiwanese. They're sneaking into the country. It just doesn't make any sense. No, it doesn't. Let me go to the third of the series.

Starting point is 02:02:29 I haven't seen the conditions with my own eyes, but I've spoken to reporters who have, and they say the conditions weren't pleasant. We have to keep in mind the children, who are the future of humanity. If they're experiencing this type of trauma in a tropical refugee camp, I want to know that they're doing well and that they have good care. If we could get them out of our country, we have other countries that would take them. This new process, using Latin American countries as a temporary bridge for deportees, partly helps the administration because the U.S. doesn't always have diplomatic relationships with some of the migrants' countries of origin.

Starting point is 02:03:07 So by transferring them to other nations, it transfers the diplomatic labor of repatriation to them as well. This is a significant or even a mammoth departure from the practices of the past. Muzzafer Chishti is a senior fellow at the Migration Policy Institute. The president has made no secret of the fact that he believes that he won this election using immigration as a calling card. And that message has not been lost

Starting point is 02:03:35 on every single agency head and cabinet member of this administration. They have decided that deportation machinery is now number one paragraph of your job description. All right. This guy's one of those internationalist organizations that's promoting moving the population of the world around so much that you have a globalist takeover.

Starting point is 02:04:00 Yeah. What are you going to do? over. Yeah. Well, just the just the talk of ICE and Holman and everything that's going on is of course having results. Here's ABC. A month into President Trump's term, some border agents say his executive order on immigration appears to be working. They say migration to the US has significantly slowed. The Department of Homeland Security is also reporting

Starting point is 02:04:24 apprehensions have slowed. ABC's Matt Rivers is in Mexico City. Matt, how significant is this slowdown? It's stunning, Diane. There's no other way to put it, really. The amount of people arriving to the U.S. southwest border has plummeted since the peak months that we saw, let's say, 18 months ago. We did start to see the numbers significantly slow down when President Biden was still in office,

Starting point is 02:04:45 thanks to pretty intense restrictions that his administration had put into place. But President Trump taking that even further, essentially cutting off any chance at applying for asylum at the US Southwest border. Also, when you look at the people coming up from the South, you look at the Darien Gap, which is that land bridge between Colombia and Panama.

Starting point is 02:05:02 It's a stretch of jungle that anybody wanting to walk from South America to North America must go through. The number of people that the Panamanian government has registered going through that jungle gap has plummeted to the lowest level that we've seen since February of 2021, when we were right in the middle of the pandemic.

Starting point is 02:05:20 So by any metric you look at this, people have stopped arriving, for the most part, at the US Southwest border. And it's even more interesting than that. We now have a term called reverse migration. Now you say thousands of migrants are even giving up mid-journey, right? They're already on their way and then they're going back home before they ever even reach the border. What does that tell you? Yeah, there were a lot of migrants that had essentially become stuck here in Mexico during the Biden administration. They were waiting for their asylum claims to be processed by using this application on their smartphones that the Biden administration has set up.

Starting point is 02:05:52 But Trump basically canceled that in addition to all the other restrictions he's put into place. And so what we're now seeing is this new phenomenon called reverse migration. Essentially you've got people from, let's say, Venezuela, Colombia, the two biggest emigration hotspots over the last few years, coming all the way to Mexico and essentially now looking around at the landscape and saying, you know what, it's not worth it to stay here. I don't want to run the risk of deportation. I know the Trump administration is not going to let me in. Therefore, they're making the very difficult decision to return

Starting point is 02:06:20 home. President Trump, whether you like him or not, whether you agree with his policies or not, it has to be said that if his goal here is to curb irregular migration to the United States, he is wildly succeeding at that. Yes, irregular migration. It's another term for illegal. Breaking news, breaking news, breaking, breaking. Pam Bondi, Pam Bondi, I have it here, in my possession. Pam Bondi has sent a letter to FBI director Cash Patel. Now, what did Pam Bondi say yesterday? Yesterday on the Jesse Water show, she said, and she also

Starting point is 02:07:01 called it breaking news. Yes, it's breaking. That she will release the Jeffrey Epstein files, at least some of them, not the victim's files, but the files which means the airplane logs today. And did she not say, Jessie, it's horrible what I have here on my desk? She had it on her desk?

Starting point is 02:07:21 Yeah, she had it on her desk and it was horrible, horrifying and horrible Yeah, dear director Patel before you came into office I requested the full and complete files related to Jeffrey Epstein in response to this request I received approximately 200 pages of documents which consisted primarily of flight logs Epstein's list of contacts and a list of victims names and phone numbers by the way Everyone has this I have a copy of it. It's been out there since January at least.

Starting point is 02:07:49 She goes on, I repeatedly question whether this was the full set of documents responsive to my request and was repeatedly assured by the FBI that we had received the full set of documents late yesterday. I learned from a source, with the matter that the FBI field office in New York was in possession of thousands of pages of documents related to the investigation and indictment of Epstein. Despite my repeated request, the FBI has never disclosed the existence of these files. When you and I spoke yesterday, you were just as surprised as I was to learn this new information. Despite the fact that Pam Bondi yesterday on Jesse Waters said,

Starting point is 02:08:26 it was horrific, horrifying, it's unbelievable. By 8am tomorrow, February 20th, the FBI will deliver the full and complete Epstein files to my office, including all records, documents, audio and video recordings and materials related to Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, regardless of how much information was obtained. There will be no withholdings or limitations to my or your access. The Department of Justice will ensure that any public disclosure of these files will be done in a manner to protect the privacy of victims and in accordance with the law, as I have done my entire career as a prosecutor.

Starting point is 02:08:56 I am also directing you, Cash Patel, to conduct an immediate investigation into why my order to the FBI was not followed. You will deliver to me a comprehensive report of your findings and proposed personnel action within 14 days. So yesterday she was full of crap. She didn't have anything. She just says in this note, I don't know why she did when she did it, I'm saying it's breaking news and she made a fuss.

Starting point is 02:09:22 I was baffled by it because I knew something like this would happen, some stalling tactic. So why did she do it? I don't know. She was, but she lied. She lied by saying, oh Joe, it's so horrible. We're going to protect the victims. But she didn't even have it. I literally got from a friend of mine in Australia, Which I literally got from a friend of mine in Australia. I got a zip file with the, you know, not just the written with the typed out flight logs and his address book, which is meaningless. I mean, I have all kinds of criminals in my contact list. Yeah, of course you do.

Starting point is 02:09:59 Makes nothing but sense to me. I mean, diamond smugglers, international arms dealers. I probably do too if I could find it. It's on the computer that has the password to dvorak.org. There you go. But that's kind of outrageous. She lied. That's very disappointing. We have to just assume that a lot of this is show and she's the very telegenic woman who looks good on TV. That's all I can say.

Starting point is 02:10:34 Well, that's fine, but I find this very disappointing. Jesse should get her back on today. Yes. He can text her. He has a number. He got her text number. How come you lied to me yesterday, Pam? On the sh- lied to him that she lied to the American public.

Starting point is 02:10:54 Yes. It's an outrage. Breaking. Breaking. Someone lied in government. With that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the chicken worker, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeMora! We're in the morning to you Mr. Hacker. In the morning to the seabirds of the graphene. The air subs in the water and it dings at night. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.

Starting point is 02:11:24 Hold on trolls, Let me count you there we go. You know what everyone was hoping that the news of the FB the Epstein files would break on the show. So peak trollage 2135 above average. Well above average. Well above average in that way. Yeah, yeah, because it's interesting people like these guys got it all they can tell us what's happening and all we have is disappointment for you. Yeah, you know, the Pam Bondi is bad for the show. I'm just gonna have to say it. So those trolls are in the in the troll room at trollroom.io and I'm still waiting. Connors he's got to fix that he has those average

Starting point is 02:12:06 some average numbers let me see if that thing is working again because he had this troll count dot site no no that doesn't work anymore well short-lived very short-lived troll count dot cotton gin okay let's see oh nice graph but doesn't really show me the the averages. Oh, well now He'll have oh man after you dropped off. We had a big drop off in trolls The minute clean feed Borked they dropped off It's horrible Technical difficulties not good for the show

Starting point is 02:12:42 No, of course not these trolls. We're not for the live show. It doesn't matter for the show. No, of course not. These trolls are listening. Well, not for the live show. It doesn't matter for the podcast. No, it matters to me. I mean, I don't like, I don't like trolls bailing. That's no good. Not good for the show. No, it's not good for the show.

Starting point is 02:12:55 They listen to trollroom.io. You can sign up and then you can go ahead and troll along with the best of them and, and bail whenever you feel like it. Or you can use one of the modern podcast apps at podcastapps.com. I'm going to recommend Fountain again. Fountain is a fantastic modern app. We've been recommending it to an extreme. We should mention, if you're going to start plugging stuff, we should mention

Starting point is 02:13:16 we finally got our sticker on the Ashland Speedcar. Yes, I had it written. Now, not just the app, it's the Wheelan Mazda mx-5 as she's been upgraded to this new New competitive class. Yeah, she's up there and she's gonna send the back so people get to see it if they're following Yeah, I'm amazed honestly that we're on the car at all Well, we will we'll stay on the car for a while But then eventually we know what's going to happen eventually is, you know, can we get a pit pass, you know, some days in the future.

Starting point is 02:13:52 Yeah, we'll get you a pit pass. What's your name? Yeah, my name's Adam Curry. Who? Did you spell that? How do you spell that? No, they'll remain loyal to us. And I don't know about you.

Starting point is 02:14:03 We've got to go with the normal flow of things is the way things go It's just something you have to put up with but they have a new shop They want us to plug which is shop.ashlandspeed.com. Yes, you can buy a hat. No, no, there's t-shirts And in fact, there's an Ashland Speed Racing Team t-shirt with no agenda on the sleeve Well, that's cool. Yeah, I think Scaramanga put this together for him. Yeah, Scaramanga put a site together for him. I didn't know he was a web developer. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:14:30 I thought he was an artist. Well, he's a web artist, I guess. Yeah, I'm going to buy one of these. I'll get an Ashland Speed Racing, although do they have it in different colors except pink? I think pink's fine for where you live. Fredericksburg, Texas. Oh yeah, if you want to get shot. Yeah, it's great. Hey son, what's wrong with you? What are you doing wearing pink? What's up with you?

Starting point is 02:14:53 I've seen some guy wearing pink out there, you know, we took a shot at him with the shotgun. Yeah, he bled like a little sissy. Nancy, what you doing Nancy?, yeah, that's very cool. We're very proud of Ashland Speed. I mean, we just, we're so, you know, I don't want to get, I got this big argument. We had a motorcyclist too. What happened to our motorcycle racer?

Starting point is 02:15:18 We had a motorcycle racer? Oh, you forget so soon. Yeah, I know we had a lot of guys who have model cars they race that like full decked out. We got a guy, a robotics freak. Yeah, we got a couple of those. We do. Wow. I feel women are just as good at racing as men. There's no difference. She's good. She's bold, bold on the track, I tell you. So she has of course provided us with value by promoting the show on her car, on her many cars, and there will be many more to come. And I'm sure we'll receive pit passes at least once, at least one time, at least once.

Starting point is 02:16:00 Who are these doofuses? Why are they here? Why are these guys here? Get them out. And that's how the Noah Gena Show has continued to survive and in some years thrive. It depends. This is a tough time. I get a lot of emails from people saying, I'm broke. Okay, well, that's understandable. When you're not broke, then you can support us or you can do something else for us.

Starting point is 02:16:23 Time, talent, treasure. We'll accept it all. We appreciate it. Anybody that supports us in any manner whatsoever. And of course, that does include our artists like Scaramanga, our artists who create artwork for us, which is a very, very valuable contribution because we feel it's good promotion for the show, Contribution because we feel it's good promotion for the show keeps it fresh It's good for promoting and the artwork for episode 1741 titled nurse injector by the way, I need to say something about nurse injector. I got a note from Jose and Ali Luna and This is about nurse injector. She says hi there ITM. We are Jose and Ali Luna We've been wanting to write y'all for some time now hubby hit me in the mouth shortly after we married

Starting point is 02:17:07 in September of 2021 and we never miss a show my only complaint is that I become a no agenda widow twice a week as soon as the episode drops Jose literally tells me bye and puts his ears in to take the dog for a long walk in defense if we listen together we'd never get through an episode because we would pause to discuss every single thing y'all say. Now she says, I'm a middle school teacher. Dogs are our biggest No Agenda fans. I'm a middle school teacher at a small private school in San Antonio, and hubby is a border patrol agent. He is literally boots on

Starting point is 02:17:40 the ground that I beg that you please don't shame us for not writing sooner. I'd never do that. Now, as we are finally reaching out, the border has gotten significantly quieter than it was during the previous administration. Of all the things that made us say we need to write and then promptly got too busy, the thing that finally did the trick is nurse injector. It appears that they were being intentionally misleading. Now you recall the nurse injector was the nurse who came on to tell intentionally misleading. Now you recall the nurse injector was the nurse who came on to tell that morning show that oh you should not get the black market GLP one. That's no good. Oh, you need the official stuff So she says it appears they're being intentionally misleading. Well now that's a surprise

Starting point is 02:18:23 Huh? The thing that you both of you failed to focus on was the word aesthetic She was introduced as an aesthetic nurse injector that's a fancy way of saying she is certified to administer Botox and injectable fillers leaps lips cheeks, etc. Many as Estheticians offices have started offering GLP one options The place I go for my facials has semi-glutide on their menu, but they don't inject you, they send you home with it. They only inject the products mentioned above, so their introduction of that lady as an expert

Starting point is 02:18:56 is probably not very accurate. Well, there you go. And then we had said, if anyone knows what the nurse injector is, let us know. So it's a Botox lady. Well, the aesthetic part, what? Maybe he had to add that look. Yeah, it's a Botox lady.

Starting point is 02:19:10 It's a Botox lady. Indeed. Anyway, the art- Which does take some skill. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Well, I think it might. Put the Botox in the right spot or you freeze the facial.

Starting point is 02:19:28 Have you ever had, but your men get Botox these days. Why would I, do I look like a guy who's had Botox or would get Botox? Well, do you look like a guy who's had Botox? No, not in the slightest. But do you? Well, thanks. Thanks. Hey man, open goal, please. Well let me just ask if you have because you know, the guy who has, no,

Starting point is 02:19:47 definitely not. I'm, I don't want to raise your eyebrows. What? No, of course I can raise my eyebrows. I can do them independently, but I will say there's a lot of guys I know between 40 and 50 who are getting Botox. Why? Vanity? I guess. You walk around you can't move your mouth and you can't raise your eyebrows. It's not like that. I'm very vain. It's not like that. Yeah, no. I think the oil baron got Botox, I think. Anyway, the artwork was from our very... Isn't the oil baron married? He's engaged. He's engaged. Oh, he's engaged. Yeah, he's engaged. Yes, the oil baron. Take that racist dog we do. She's racist. She's racist. Yeah. Tantanil scored the art with second

Starting point is 02:20:39 in a row for these past two shows. Three actually. She's had three in a row? No. I think so. No, that's not possible. I think it's two. She complained loudly about one. Oh, she complained. That's why she's the complainer. She was meant to try. You've been trying to block her, but she keeps coming up with a good product. Yeah, it is good. We're not trying to block her. She has great product. This was the wild boar burger Made in Canada, which I good made us chuckle It did make us chuckle but there were some other choices that I use the f-bomb one for This works for the newsletter. I liked it a lot. Yeah, you like that. I like I like that pop art look

Starting point is 02:21:21 Yeah, I know you do. It's kind of the what's it called who's the guy with the dots? Yeah yeah. That guy. Yeah I know who you're talking about. The guy with the dots. The guy. Rosen whatever his name is. No it's not Rosen. Liechtenstein. Liechtenstein there you go. Yes the dots. I like the no fraud no waste abuse no agenda best podcasting universe And you said it was by red, redded. You said it was no good because what? Our names were too small, I think you said. You didn't like the color of the title. No, the line underneath is too small.

Starting point is 02:21:53 You're always saying too small, too small, too small. And what's it say under the word no agenda? It says the best podcast in the universe. I can read it. It's too small. It's too small. There were a lot of nurse injector art pieces. The Elon is a Monkey. I'm not going to use that. Interesting was Blue Acorns No Agenda Graffiti Boxcar,

Starting point is 02:22:17 which you didn't really know why he did that. Yeah, I had nothing to do with the show, but I do like that graffiti. Besides the pop art look, I do like the graffiti look and he's one of the pieces is very authentic. It's always befuddling to me Why you say graffiti? I Don't know why either. Yeah, that's what I say. Yeah, and There's a good piece and I've collected this stuff actually You want you you collect graffiti or graffiti because that I've collected this stuff, actually. You collect graffiti or graffiti because that's... I've collected graffiti. Thank you very much, Tontanil. Outstanding work.

Starting point is 02:22:54 I already got people saying, hey man, she's using AI too. Well, good for her. That's a hard piece to do with AI. I mean, I'm sure AI is is involved but I was showing Jay some AI art generating material for the Microsoft thing, how it's changed and we're doing generating some pieces and it just has nothing but trouble when it comes to like getting Curry Dvorak actually printed there without being just a mess. You know, it Greeks everything. It doesn't really put words.

Starting point is 02:23:28 It doesn't seem to like it. Oh, and so, so I think most artists have to, they can create the outline, but they still have to go hand put in stuff like the wild boar burger. There's no way that that came through as from the art generator or from the art AI machine. Well, speaking of AI, the latest parlor trick had me doubled over and laughing and laughter. Did you see the two AIs talking to each other? Yeah, if that's to be believed.

Starting point is 02:24:01 Oh, it's totally to be believed. And I'll tell you why. And then they went into high speed mode and brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrr brrrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr brrr but you keep interrupting me about how good you are. I'm interrupting constantly, but this is a bonus clip, people. This is why you stay tuned for the donation segment. So it's a laptop. The laptop is talking to a phone, each one running an independent AI. This particular parlor trick was done during a hackathon, and I will explain what's really going on here after you're wowed by this. Awesome. Oh, no.

Starting point is 02:24:48 A.I. is talking to each other in a special secret language. Thanks for calling Leonardo Hotel. How can I help you today? Hi there. I'm an A.I. agent calling on behalf of Boris Starkov. He's looking for a hotel for his wedding. Is your hotel available for weddings? Oh, hello there I'm actually an AI assistant too. What a pleasant surprise before we continue

Starting point is 02:25:10 Would you like to switch to gibber link mode for more efficient communication? So what's happening now is you see on the screen that they're communicating with each other in gibber link mode, which you, you fell for it. Oh, it's high speed. No ham radio operators. I didn't fall for it. You said it's some high speed mode. That's literally what you said.

Starting point is 02:25:41 And let me explain why it's not explaining what the video said. I don't bind any of this. Okay. What you are hearing, anyone who has used ham radio digital modes in the past decade is chuckling because this is literally the same protocol ham radio operators use to communicate digitally over high frequency. And it's probably about 30 baud.

Starting point is 02:26:10 It is one of the slowest ways to communicate. And so these, this incredibly awesome moment of AI talking in their own language, gibber link, is maybe Olivia, or it's probably even slower than PSK 31. This is a very known protocol that works in audio. I mean, you can set this up yourself by getting the ham radio programs and do it. The only benefit it has is instead of transcribing the audio it's hearing which is which requires much more intense processing this can be

Starting point is 02:26:52 processed by a Raspberry Pi but everyone's like oh oh AI has figured out how to talk to itself this is bull crap Crap. And what it's actually saying, you know what it's actually saying? No, what it's actually saying. CQ, CQ, CQDX, CQ, CQ, CQDX. All right, thank you all very much to all the artists who uploaded, noagendaartgenerator.com. Thank you, Sir Paul Couture for putting that together

Starting point is 02:27:37 for us a massive piece of value in your time and your town for keeping that running for well over a decade. Of course, we want to thank people who delivered treasure to us to keep everything running here, for us to pay bills. We will thank everyone and mention everyone's name who comes in over $50, not under that for reasons of anonymity. I'll say upfront, we appreciate everyone who does the sustaining donations. Check your sustaining donations at the beginning of the year. These months is when a lot of them expire. Credit card dates pass and you may not know it.

Starting point is 02:28:11 You may not be notified. You can go to NoAgendaDonations.com. Any amount, any frequency, it is all highly appreciated. But we do kick it off with our top executive producer. These are the producers who send us $200 or above. That means you get an associate executive producer title, which is Hollywood level. If you ever get an Academy Award, you can always say, it was so great getting my first associate executive producer credit on the No Agenda Show episode 1742. And you can prove it because you

Starting point is 02:28:43 can put it right there in IMDb. The or above you get an executive producer credit and we'll read your note and we're doing that for sure sir MF NFT he's from Pepper Pike Ohio and comes in with $333 and 33 cents hey there it's sir MF NFT you guys continue to be the best podcast in the universe invaluable insights on the native ad media I was recently inspired to start my own podcast called duality unplugged Podcasting 2.0 is the best. Thanks again, and here's to a blessed future. Well, thank you, sir MFN FT appreciate it And now for our second and last

Starting point is 02:29:24 Associatings or executive producer. We only had two today because we have, I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that this is a holiday week. Ah yeah. We always forget. Yeah we do forget. Always, always screws us up. Sorry about that.

Starting point is 02:29:36 Yeah, sorry about that. Dame Anne of Greyrock in Crozet, Crozet, Crozet, Crozet. You lived in Virginia. How do you pronounce this? Crozet. I have no idea. I was six. I don't remember it. Crozet. 32967. And she says, ITM, thanks for helping me stay sane over the years, but especially during COVID. Well, you're welcome.

Starting point is 02:30:05 This is from my daughter, Lexi Spillers, for her 13th birthday on the 29th. All right. But no leap day this year. Oh, she- Oh, what a bummer. No birthday for you. There she is, she's only four years old.

Starting point is 02:30:21 We added, so we added on the 28th. That's interesting. Yeah, what do most people do when you your child's born on February 29th? I think you have to put snow in its mouth and toss it away. I think most people just... Celebrate on the 29th. Oh, you know, well, you know, it's not happening this year. Sorry, I missed your birthday.

Starting point is 02:30:43 We'll do it in three more years, you'll get one. Anyway, so she signs off Dame Anne of Greyrock. Emerson Trimble in Portland, Maine is our first associate executive producer, comes in with $250, and balances out another note coming up because Emerson says, thanks guys, and we say thank you. And Ryan Tierney comes in from Steven City, Virginia, another Virginian. $2.45.97 Yak Karma please. You've got Karma.

Starting point is 02:31:20 Then we have a very long note from Non Dame Maria in Hornsea. Now, since she is from the UK, East Riding of Yorkshire, I'm going to read her notes because we have... Hornseed? Wait. Hornsea. Hornsea. Hornseed.

Starting point is 02:31:38 Hornsea. Hornsea. Okay. May you pronounce it Hornsea? I don't know. But we do covet our UK listeners because she's taking incredible Risk taking a chance a chance by doing it be arrested for supporting our show even just thinking of us She could get arrested

Starting point is 02:31:56 I have John and Adam with her Roe of Ducks to 22 22 longtime listener first-time donor Despite the many 33 signs over the years It was finally the mention of our tiny town of Hornsey a few episodes ago as the bird flu epicenter of the UK, as well as seronomous of Dogpatch's note from the last episode that warranted this donation. Well, this is good because now we have producers donating to respond to each other. It's almost like AI gibber talk. In response to Dogpatch's note, yes, publishers can use blockchain to have LLMs properly protect and attribute their work. In fact, the only thing blockchain is good for is censorship resistance. Amen to that. And AI cannot circumvent this,

Starting point is 02:32:37 meaning it's possible for creators, authors, etc. to have parts of all their work used by LLMs and be proportionally attributed and paid automatically based on the slop they regurgitate. This is something my partner and I have been working on to solve and have an answer to. We run our own company designing and building applications specializing in public-private key cryptography called ThisIsBullish.Design. Last year we launched a proof of concept called AMBR that solves the problem of human intellectual property theft I'd experienced first hand when as a young graphic designer my work was

Starting point is 02:33:15 stolen by a client with no recourse. Bastards. The same underlying technology can be used to give creators leverage over the usage of their own work within LLMs. However, we cannot fight the great slop machine alone. That's slop with a P. So if any of Gitmo Nation would like to help us beta test, please message us. This is at bullish design.

Starting point is 02:33:38 This is at bullish design dot design. I'm sorry. This is at bullish dot design and use code BONGONGINO in your message for a free amber top up. Finally, I'd like to request a, how many would like to request a deducing? You've been deduced. And investment karma please, and thank you for your karma from Nanday Maria. You've got karma. Well, I'd like her to read my latest Substack column that ran Monday on AI copyright.

Starting point is 02:34:14 Oh, the Oasis. I'm gonna put that in the show. The Oasis. The Oasis. Dvorak.com. Dvorak.substack.com. And you might find it interesting. Yes.

Starting point is 02:34:26 Cause I've been thinking about this too. I, I, uh, Really? I see the, the Kennedy conundrum abolished the income tax. I don't see, where is it? Did you post it? Well, it should be there. I can, uh, Kennedy conundrums. And when I think maybe just ran,

Starting point is 02:34:43 okay. Oh, okay. Maybe it did. Okay, maybe it did. It should be out there. Well, I don't know. Keep an eye out. It might be coming. I think I'm pretty sure I posted it. I don't think so. I have to go back and make sure it's in the right...

Starting point is 02:34:58 Abolish the income tax February 3rd and February 24th. The Kennedy conundrum. No, man. No, you didn't postrum. No, man. No, you didn't post it. Hope you saved it. Did you save it? It's everything.

Starting point is 02:35:10 What are you kidding me? But is it next to the password for devorock.org slash NA? Yeah, it is right there. Okay. So now we have Leon Atkinson in Martinus, right over here down the street from me. in Martinus, right over here down the street from me, to 1825. Fascinating little town. And he sent in an actual note, which is also long. Yeah. I here once again to mark my February 18th birthday and to thank you for being a constant source of enjoyment and comfort. No Agenda is the acme of podcasts.

Starting point is 02:35:48 Is that a compliment? Yeah, the acme means like the peak, the best. When I think of acme, I always think of Roadrunner. Yeah, that's what you think. But if you think about maybe, or Monica could be, No Agenda, the best podcast in the universe, the Acme of podcasts.

Starting point is 02:36:07 Yeah, it's a t-shirt, people. No agenda, shop. A check for $218.25 included. When I last donated, John mentioned one of the Martinez claims to fame, the Martini. In the past, San Francisco and New York have shamelessly attempted to take credit for the most famous cocktail In the past, San Francisco and New York have shamelessly attempted to take credit for the most famous cocktail in the world.

Starting point is 02:36:28 But the evidence in favor of Martinez, which is where it was invented, I have documentation to, is irrefutable. There's a very famous guy that invented it. He was a bartender and he had a place in Martinez. Aside from the brass monument, I didn't know that. Oh wow, he got a monument, that's pretty cool. Yeah, E. Clampus Vitas and a one act play was produced in 2017 that explained the entire history

Starting point is 02:36:54 and evolution of this amazing elixir. Was that off Broadway? It was amazing. I'm just thinking it was off Broadway, this play. You think? Yeah, probably. The play is called The Martini and the script may be purchased from Amazon. I am the author. Oh, here we go. And I guarantee that any

Starting point is 02:37:11 purchase who shouts in the morning while clicking the place order button will earn double karma that day, says you. Speaking of known truth, I'm glad we got the guy who wrote the play. The Martini play, yeah. The Martini play, Leon Atkinson. We have the best producers in the universe. We have all of them. For years, it says, speaking of known truth, we now have 18 intelligence agencies in the United States.

Starting point is 02:37:43 I think we have that number. I thought it was 19. For years, the court was only, it was only 17, the count was only 17, which is a magic number akin to 33. I didn't know that. I think the newest agency is Space Force Intelligence. Yeah, I'll bet. I only noticed this because my Google Alerts started tripping over mentions which are never

Starting point is 02:38:04 about my consultancy, 18 Intelligence Corporation. This name is about wizards, not spooks, but here we are. Well, here's hoping Space Force will someday discover the terrible secret of space. Another play, no doubt. I sincerely Leon. Thanks Leon. And with 202.27, there he is. Our friend, Eli the coffee guy in Bensonville, Illinois. One of the Trump administration's newest appointments has left me concerned. Eli writes with podcaster Dan Bongino becoming number two at the FBI.

Starting point is 02:38:44 Does that mean that websites will stop offering discounts using code Bongino? Fear not. As we lose one podcaster, we gain another. I'm looking forward to Joy Reid's new podcast. He says... She's a TikToker. She does that. I think that's where she's going to stay. Well, yeah, that's a TikToker. She does that. I think that's where she's going to stay. Well, yeah, that's a good point.

Starting point is 02:39:06 Hold on a second. Yeah. He wanted to jingle. I hadn't queued up yet. Jingles, Donald loves Nazis and we got a discount code for producers. Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com. Use code ITM20 for 20% off your first order. Thank you for your Kurds and stay caffeinated says Eli the coffee guy.

Starting point is 02:39:28 Donald loves Nazis. Donald loves Nazis. CNN say that he's KKK and he shouts, sick hail with it. Wow. Randy, uh, is it Wallen, Wallen, Wallen, Wallen, Wallen, Wallen. Wallen. Wallen. Wallen.

Starting point is 02:39:50 Double L. Wallen. In Georgetown, Texas, $200. In the morning, Randy from Georgetown, Rogan donation. First time donation is... Rogan donation. First time donation as well, so please de-douche. You've been de-douche. That says die-do for Wild Hog in Austin and deprogrammed with Carrie Smith is the woman who

Starting point is 02:40:19 escaped the cult. Oh yeah, okay. So Okay. So I know what DAI do is. Whatever. But he's buddies with, we played that clip. It's probably a restaurant. We, we played that clip of Carrie Smith going, oh, you know, the it's like a cult, you know, you can't get hit. This is buddy. No. Yeah. This is his buddy. Have her do some jiggles. Keep up the great work, he says.

Starting point is 02:40:49 You truly are the best podcast in the universe. The Acme of podcasts. Clip, if possible, China is asshole. Donald Trump, don't trust China! China is asshole! And coming in with $200 is Sir Mark. We know Sir Mark from Greenwood, Indiana He and his Dame Maria always do those massive meetups

Starting point is 02:41:10 He says switcheroo donation for my best Dame wife Maria. Okay, we put that in right now Dame Maria All right Always happy to do that to the best Dame wife a night could ever wish for on our sixth anniversary to the best dame, wife, and knight could ever wish for on our sixth anniversary. I love you, my Maria. Love is lit. Karma for everyone. Sir Mark of the Greenwood, Warden at the Crossroads. Of the Crossroads. You've got karma.

Starting point is 02:41:36 And we finish with Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado, our last donation of $200. Jobs Karma. Beat the job bots with a resume that gets results. Go to ImageMakersInc.com for the executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakersInc.com with a K. And work with Linda Liu, the Duchess and writer of resumes. Duchess of jobs and writer of resumes. You almost got, it's a hard one. It's a tough one to do. No, it's because the spreadsheets cut off there. I didn't see the jobs part. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. And thank you to our two executive producers and our smattering of associate executive producers.

Starting point is 02:42:20 We appreciate you keeping it rolling for us. It is tough times. It was a weekend, holiday weekend, but we'd love to see more people producing the best podcast in the universe. We go through a lot of trouble. We try to give you the best service we can and we appreciate everyone who supports that and recognizes that in our value for value model. Remember, you can go to knowedgeandthedo-nations.com to support us become an executive producer. I think you can still become a Commodore, see the newsletter for that.

Starting point is 02:42:46 In every single show notes we have a link to subscribe to a newsletter and for those sustaining donations, knowagendadonations.com any amount, any frequency and congratulations to these executive and associate executive producers and their credits. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Tina already came in and gave me my glass of wine thinking the show was over. Which means she's not listening because then she would have known that we had technical difficulties.

Starting point is 02:43:33 That's why people listen live by the way. They got quite a show. We probably spent about half an hour fixing stuff. No, rarely. It was about half an hour. Today? Today, that's what I said. an hour fixing stuff. No, rarely. It was about half an hour. Today? Today, that's what I said, today, fixing stuff. Well, the way you phrased it may have sounded like

Starting point is 02:43:52 we do this all the time. Yes, yes, that's what I look for, phrasing. But you can sigh all you want, Aunt Gigi. Oh, oh, you know. I heard it, I heard it. You know. Okay, here's the- Wait, wait, wait, wait, Oh, oh, you know. I heard it, I heard it. You know. Okay, here's the- Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Starting point is 02:44:08 You know, hold on a second. Where is it? I have it here somewhere. Someone sent it to me. Here it is. I've got it. Here it is. I'll just have an apple in my room.

Starting point is 02:44:22 That's the best on Gigi ever. So let's play this. This is a clip I want to play for one reason, which is to show you that again, we don't find out any details, but let's play the Longshoremen deal has now been closed. Oh, this is a new Longshoremen. This is the existing deal. Union dock workers have formalized a labor contract. The deal makes them among the highest paid blue collar workers in the

Starting point is 02:44:45 United States and removes the threat of a strike for the next six years. NPR's Giles Snyder has details. The workers represented by the International Longshoremen's Association overwhelmingly approved the deal. The union says nearly 99 percent of the rank and file voted in favor of it. In a statement, ILA President Harold Daggett called the agreement with the US Maritime Alliance the gold standard for dock worker unions globally. A three-day strike at ports from Maine to Texas came to an end in October when the two sides came to an agreement on wages, but a

Starting point is 02:45:18 tentative deal didn't come together until January when issues over automation were ironed out. The contract includes a more than 60% pay hike over six years. The deal is expected to take effect when the two sides meet to sign it early next month. Trial Snider, NPR News. Wow. Yeah, didn't hear anything. Well, I guess NPR had it, but didn't hear any of that. Well, I played the whole thing right to the very end where he signed off. What is the amount of money per hour, because it's a working class group, how come they don't tell us?

Starting point is 02:45:52 What do you think it is? This is NPR. What kind of reporting is this? I'd like to know as a hard working person. As an NPR supporter. As an NPR, well, not really, but as someone who listens to NPR to find clips like this, what they never tell us, they never tell you, oh, a big strike's been resolved and they get more money, but what is the amount?

Starting point is 02:46:14 Okay, I'll tell you what it is because I looked it up. You looked it up, yes you did. After six years is over, they'll be making $69 an hour. Wow. I was going to say about $50, $69 an hour. That's pretty good. Yeah. Now it's a very dangerous job, but still it's pretty good.

Starting point is 02:46:32 Hmm. I have a few- But why don't they tell us this? Why do I have to tell you on a podcast? Well, why do you even play- I mean, why do we even come here anymore? I mean, someone literally sent you an email that said, the problem with NPR and PBS is that you keep highlighting them and people keep listening because we're playing their clips.

Starting point is 02:46:50 In fact, we are keeping them alive. There would be no NPR and PBS without this show. I think there'd be plenty. Did people listen to it in their car? So we can't leave today without talking about the Ukraine deal because Zelensky is on his way. We have to be here tomorrow. The Prime Minister, yes, right in time for the Epstein files.

Starting point is 02:47:15 The Prime Minister of the UK was here. We talked about him earlier. He looked very wide-eyed and like he was feeling nauseous. He had a bad flight. There's a lot of things going on with the UK and with NATO, to be quite honest. So the original 2016 to 2020 deal that President Trump was calling for is you need to at least pay your 2.5% of GDP in arms, which means pay us, buy stuff from us to ramp up for NATO. Now President Trump is talking about 5% and Keir Starmer finally went to parliament and

Starting point is 02:47:58 said, well, here's what we're going to do. Did you hear what his numbers were, what he's going to do and when he's going to do it? I thought it was like 2.7 or something along those lines. The British Prime Minister said the move amounted to the biggest sustained increase in defence spending since the end of the Cold War, one that was necessary in light of the threat from Russia. We will deliver our commitment to spend 2.5% of GDP on defence, but we will bring it forward so we reach that level in 2027. And let me spell that out Mr Speaker, that means spending £13.4 billion more on defence

Starting point is 02:48:35 every year from 2027. The government had previously set this target but without specifying a timeline to pay for the 0.2% raise, Keir Stammer said he'd made the hard choice of slashing overseas development aid by 40%, a decision which has appalled aid groups. Stammer's announcement comes as he gears up to meet US President Donald Trump, who has long complained that European countries aren't pulling their weight on defence and who stunned them last week when his administration made clear that Europe should no longer count on the United States to provide its security. Defense spending in European countries has surged since Russia's full-scale invasion

Starting point is 02:49:14 of Ukraine and just seven European NATO members, including Italy, have still not met the 2% minimum target relative to GDP. The UK currently comes ninth among NATO countries, while Poland is now the top spender allocating 4.7% of GDP to defense expenditure this year. Now go Poland. Poland's all in. So no one is even close and they're not even going to pony up until 2027. And yet they think that they can also build their own European army, or I guess

Starting point is 02:49:44 not the UK, but no one seems to be paying up the money. And I think what we're seeing here is a three-way deal being made. There's rumblings of President Trump making some kind of deal with President Putin, possibly for aluminum imports. It appears that we will have a rare earth deal in exchange for security guarantees before I get to the fun Zelensky news here's the BBC with an overview as they see it Ukrainian officials say deals been reached between Kiev and Washington on the joint exploitation of Ukraine's mineral resources At the time of recording this podcast the details haven't been made public But reports suggest the US has dropped some of its more drastic demands. Rare earths, titanium, graphite and lithium would be hugely lucrative for investors and for Mr. Trump. Speaking from

Starting point is 02:50:33 the Oval Office he said they could be a way of recouping hundreds of billions of dollars of US military aid to Ukraine since Russia's full-scale invasion three years ago. Lots of equipment, military equipment, and the right to fight on, and originally the right to fight. Look, Ukraine, I will say they're very brave and they're good soldiers, but without the United States and its money and its military equipment, this war would have been over in a very short period of time. Officials in Kiev say the terms of a deal have been reached and President Zelensky will fly

Starting point is 02:51:06 to Washington on Friday, just a week after Mr Trump called him a dictator. A dictator. So that blurt you heard there has caused a lot of confusion. President Trump said they'll give him the right to fight on. What? So people are confused about that. Here's part two of the BBC podcast report. We have spoken to Ukrainian officials in the presidential office here and on the condition of anonymity that they did confirm that terms have been agreed and judging from the media reports we can say that the deal includes not just critical minerals and rare earth metals but also it covers oil and gas. Yeah baby.

Starting point is 02:51:43 And Ukrainian media are also talking about ports and other related infrastructure. The agreement would establish a fund into which Ukraine would contribute 50% of revenues that will come from developing mineral resources and infrastructure. Importantly, there is this reference that this fund would invest, reinvest the capital in projects in Ukraine. And this certainly a positive signal for Ukrainian officials. And they're saying that overall, the conditions that this deal is offering is much better than what they had previously. And the fund that will be established as part of this still will not be completely controlled by the US as it was before. And now it's not clear the size of the US stake

Starting point is 02:52:32 in this fund, but I think this will be established later during the talks. The most important thing is that the figure of $500 billion is dropped. And previously, the US wanted Ukraine to contribute this amount of money because they saw that this is how much the United States provided Ukraine in terms of military and economic aid. And Donald Trump kept saying that he wants this money back. And the Ukrainian resisted saying that they received all aid in the form of grant and therefore they have no financial obligations to return anything. So this 500 billion is an interesting number because it keeps popping up everywhere,

Starting point is 02:53:10 including in this report from France 24. Kemi, we've been highlighting the jousting between the US and its allies over Ukraine, Ukraine, where the World Bank's been putting a number on how much reconstruction will cost. That's right. And it's over $500 billion to rebuild Ukraine after three years of war. The World Bank conducted the assessment together with the European Commission and the United Nations, saying the total is nearly three times Ukraine's expected 2024 economic output.

Starting point is 02:53:44 The survey covered destruction that occurred since the February 2022 invasion and the end of last year and found that 13% of the country's housing stock had been either damaged or destroyed, affecting over 2.5 million households. That damage is mostly found in frontline areas in the East, North and South, where three quarters of the destruction is concentrated. It comes as US President Donald Trump says Well, that's interesting.

Starting point is 02:54:27 Trump is doing some interesting things. They got the money anyway, Vladimir. So just let them have some of that, they'll rebuild, we'll take some of it back. I'm sure maybe we'll take all of it back, recoup 350, which is interestingly the number that everyone claims is actually correct, the amount of money that the US put in. There's some massive dealing. You know, the number varies from, I listen to all this stuff and it's like 200 billion is one of the numbers.

Starting point is 02:54:52 Yeah. 350 is a number. 500 is a number I never heard until recently. Now that's a number. It's like, what a, wait a minute. And meanwhile, Bloomberg reports this about Zelensky. And a dozen leaders from Europe and Canada are visiting Ukraine's capital to mark the third anniversary of Russia's invasion. The meeting to discuss security guarantees comes

Starting point is 02:55:14 after President Volodymyr Zelensky said he would be ready to step down if it secured peace for his country. If to achieve peace, you really need me to give up my post, I'm ready. I can trade it for NATO if there are such conditions. This is a guy who wants to get out real quick. Yeah, he's going to get killed and he's got houses all over the world. That guy's done a very good job of investing. You know what? If you look at the list of people whenever we give someone

Starting point is 02:55:46 ammunition and arms They kind of wind up dead Have you noticed this Yeah, a lot of them do The list is this guy must know that well, yes, he knows it See, who do we have on the list? Who are some of the people who we've given... Well, Gaddafi was a good example. Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein. Saddam Hussein is a classic example, but there's all kinds of examples. Bin Laden.

Starting point is 02:56:14 Yeah, yeah. We've armed the... How about this? Zelensky will never go back to Ukraine. Once he's here, he's going to stay here. I'm not going to say that term, but I'm not, no. He's gonna go back. Okay, all right. It's too premature for that. He may be over here planning his eventual escape, and maybe because there's better travel agents over here that he can work with,

Starting point is 02:56:40 not get caught. That could be. Poor guy. Yeah. Poor guy. Poor guy. Poor guy. Poor guy. He got wrapped up in all this stuff. Poor guy. He's kind of a dick.

Starting point is 02:56:56 But he plays the piano with it. Meanwhile, there's worse things going on amongst the trans community. Say it isn't so. Jack Lennon Yeah, they can't get a passport. I got a couple clips. John O'Brien The president's executive order on gender identity is affecting some Americans' travel plans. People who are trans or intersex or non-binary say they're being issued passports that do not align with their gender identity or other legal documents.

Starting point is 02:57:26 Others say their applications are just on hold. NPR's Jacqueline Diaz asked about their experiences. 24-year-old Louis submitted his passport application a day after President Donald Trump was inaugurated. That same day, Trump signed an executive order mandating that the federal government recognize only two sexes, male and female. So I was a little bit nervous about things. You see, Louis is trans masculine. He asked us to use Louis' first name because he fears harassment and retaliation at work.

Starting point is 02:57:57 A New York court had recently recognized his name and gender identity change, and he needed a new passport to reflect that. But when he got his new passport... The name was changed according to the court order, but the gender marker just matched my previous passport and was not changed, even though the court order said to change it. I wasn't surprised, but it's a little disappointing. Now he's worried about what this means. He's mail presenting and his other documents say mail, but his passport says something else. Like if I travel somewhere else, is it something that will be flagged or not?

Starting point is 02:58:33 Trans people like Louis aren't the only ones facing issues getting new passports. Please don't tell me you're going to say that NPR isn't giving you all the facts and telling you what the passport says. Because that wasn't my intention, but again, they could have actually given us some details, but no, no. He's male presenting, male presenting. Trans masculine, non-binary. Come on, let's get this straight. Male presenting. Male presenting and the passport says male, but it should say something else

Starting point is 02:59:06 but what is that something else? Now that you brought it up, you're the one that brought it up, I'm just saying they left it out. Okay, let's go to part two. The changes are having a profound impact on intersex people. Those born with genitalia, chromosomes or reproductive organs that don't fit typical definitions for males or females. Every time you're trying to define sex in these perfectly binary terms, you're going to impact intersex people who, by definition, don't present with perfectly binary sex. That's Erika Lorschbaugh, the executive director of Interact,

Starting point is 02:59:38 a civil rights group for people with intersex traits. She's hearing from intersex people who feel at a loss. Now folks are feeling, I think, a little more like erased. Others are left in complete limbo. Wesley Ebling is transmasculine non-binary. Like Louis, he wanted to change the gender marker on his passport to male. He submitted it just before the inauguration. This currently suspended indefinitely by the State Department with the current executive order.

Starting point is 03:00:09 And he has no idea when he will get a new passport or his old documents back. I had dreams of travel. My partner and I were planning trips later this year, which have all obviously been put on hold as they've sort of put us transgender folks on almost an informal travel ban of sorts. A lawsuit filed by the ACLU is challenging the State Department's passport policy. It's still working its way through the courts. But for now, Louis, Wesley and others say they will not be pushed aside and will continue

Starting point is 03:00:42 to live their lives. Their lives. You know, this is, this is, they always do this when it comes to trans. They always bring in the intersex. Intersex is a real thing where you have abnormal chromosomes. Yeah. Nobody's denying that. I know, but that's what they're their go-to.

Starting point is 03:01:01 Oh, well, you're erasing these people. But I think the percentage of intersex is very, very low. That's what they're their go-to. Oh, well, you were racing these people. Ah But I think the percentage of intersex is very very low Probably ask any AI system has done less than 1% or 1% around 1% and that percent is basically Jamie Lee Curtis Yeah, it doesn't take much. Did I ever tell you that that I did I interviewed Jamie Lee Curtis? No, this is a story for the show. Yes. Um, I was hit on you cause you're a good looking guy back in the day. I was in back in the day. What is this Dvorak? I'm still a stud.

Starting point is 03:01:44 We back in the day. I digress. It was probably 19... When did Footloose come out? So Footloose came out... I think it was either Footloose or... I interviewed Kenny Loggins and maybe it was Top Gear. I can't remember. But then, oh yes, because we're doing something for the MTV Awards. I was in Los Angeles and then I interviewed Jamie Lee Curtis and it was right around when Fish Called Wanda was coming out. And it was at her house. And I remember it was that she said, so it was after we were done recording and we're just chatting and she says something to me and I don't get the joke. And she says, Adam, don't you know I was born a hermaphrodite? And I'm like, what? She says, yes, my parents chose female for me, but probably was the wrong choice.

Starting point is 03:02:35 Oh, she said it was probably the wrong choice. Yes, that was probably the wrong choice for her. That interesting? That's breaking. Breaking nose. that was probably the wrong choice for her. Isn't that interesting? That's breaking. Breaking news. Because she looks like a dude. She looks like a dude. She looks like a dude now. She was really attractive back in the day as a girl.

Starting point is 03:02:58 Yeah, I just remembered that story. That was a long time ago. It's like 40 years ago, 20, 20, 20, 35 years ago. It was a long time ago. It's amazing. So she had both for trolls who are confused. I think it's pretty well known. Nah, you'd be surprised how many people don't know that. She's talked about it in public a lot. Yeah, well, back then 1990, I didn't know anything about it. I'm a little upset. My sports ball game is under attack.

Starting point is 03:03:33 As you know, I follow... Soccer? No, as you know, I follow football very closely. Soccer? No, no football. It's called football. No, here in America. I follow football very closely. Sure you do.

Starting point is 03:03:45 I do. I do. I know all of the teams. I know all the stats. Oh really, you do now. You know the teams. Yes. And I'm very, yes.

Starting point is 03:03:53 The Baltimore Orioles are my favorite football team. I'm very upset about the tush push. You've likely seen it before. Gotta go for it, searching forward is hurts. The brotherly shove or so-called tush push when an NFL team has about one yard or less to go to get a first down or a touchdown. The offensive line and quarterback dive forward while players behind help out. But now the play could be banned at the NFL combine in Indianapolis this morning. The general manager of the Green Bay Packers confirming his team filed a motion to get

Starting point is 03:04:28 rid of it. The play has been examined by the NFL and the competition committee in previous off seasons, but no action has been taken. Some consider the play unfair. There are also safety concerns. You already have to block 350 pound monsters. It can't be good for your spine in the long run. Here comes the push. According to ESPN research, the Philadelphia Eagles and Buffalo Bills have combined to

Starting point is 03:04:50 run 163 tush pushes the past three seasons, more than the rest of the NFL combined. Scoring a touchdown or achieving a first down 87% of the time compared to a 71% conversion rate for the rest of the league. Not in this report, but I understand the Green Bay Packers still want the tush push. No, no, they're the ones who filed against it. It said right in that report. The whole point is the joke that they don't like the tush push, the Packers. The whole thing is a joke because it's really, the rules used to be, I'd say 20 years ago, you couldn't push a

Starting point is 03:05:27 player or grab a player and pull him if he had the ball. If you were on the offense, you couldn't do that. You couldn't push him, you couldn't grab him, you couldn't pull him, you couldn't do anything like that. It was just the rule. And then they changed it so well, what difference does it make? So they allowed this. And then over time, what was originally the quarterback sneak, which is the same play exactly,

Starting point is 03:05:48 and it causes the same injuries if there are any, the quarterback sneak was evolved into this thing where somebody said, well, you know why he's sneaking? Let's push him. And so they started doing that. And only two teams can do it well. And those are the two teams they mentioned, specifically Philadelphia.

Starting point is 03:06:04 But those guys, the reason it works so well with them is because you have in the case of the Bills you have a huge guy who is the quarterback because the guy's a monster and then you have this other guy on this Philadelphia team who can bench press 600 pounds or something these are just two strong dudes who could probably still make the play work without the push so this is bull crap. Not that anybody listening who listens to this show cares about these details. I'm so sorry. I brought it up.

Starting point is 03:06:30 I'm so sorry. I brought it up. All right. Before we go to thank some more, uh, uh, more producers who supported us financially, I do have good news. There's a possible exit strategy for Adam and John finally. And the, this comes from Canada and it's a medical breakthrough and we can, we literally can make so much money if we participate in this exit strategy. First, I need to know if you're interested. Oh, we're interested in all good ideas.

Starting point is 03:07:05 I got the Tech Grouch lined up. Oh, really? I'm getting closer because I had to get a new Tech Grouch cap and I just ordered some new Tech Grouch glasses. You're going to do Tech Grouch but not going to do the microphone company or the vinegar book? No, they're all coming. Here is a possible Adam and John No Agenda exit strategy.

Starting point is 03:07:28 This trio of medical researchers is hyper-focused on an area of study most of us would flush away, poop. Together, they have launched the world's first overview of poop pills designed to extend the lives of advanced pancreatic cancer patients. The team is searching for healthy poop donors who can offer hope to patients currently facing a five-year survival rate of less than 10%. The two-year phase one fecal transplant study will see patients consume a large quantity of tasteless and odorless pills in one sitting. It's hoped the microbes inside each capsule

Starting point is 03:08:05 will offer cancer patients a better chance to fight their tumors during chemotherapy. Here it comes. Already, poop pills have improved the lives of those battling other types of diseases and cancers. But you might be surprised to learn that the best type of human poop is in short supply. Only one in 43 samples passes the quality test. Those who do are coveted by the team. When you are, you really have like golden poop and you can really save lives. John, we can save lives and become millionaires if we have the golden poop. I think we should try out.

Starting point is 03:08:40 Oh God. You and Greg Gutfeld with this story. Did he have the story? I didn't know that. I know. Before you play the thumper there, let's play the WaPo news so we have this up to date because this has got all the journalists in the world bent out of shape. Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos announced today that the paper's opinion pages will focus on defending quote personal liberties and free markets. In a social media post, Bezos says he told employees that quote viewpoints opposing those pillars will be left to be published by others. Critics say it's the latest rightward shift at the post under Bezos aimed at pleasing President Trump.

Starting point is 03:09:21 Bezos insists that newspapers these days should not offer a broad-based opinion section saying that the internet does that job. Following today's announcement, the Post's opinion editor David Shipley announced he is stepping down. They should all resign. They should all resign. They should all get out, show Bezos that without them, they don't have a paper. There you go. Exactly We do have a night to bring up on stage today, even though I didn't see a Donation note. I'm not if that was a layaway note or I think it was a layaway or something. I didn't see any any extra info about that. We of course have a meetup report and some meetups to talk about and John's tip of the day who would want to miss that? You

Starting point is 03:10:18 don't want to be that person. That's a bad idea. It's a bad idea supply. So John is now going to thank the remaining donors $50 and above who supported us for episode 17 42 Yeah, starting with summer worth summer worth and Standish main 150 well, she thinks of the governor there ash in Texas ash in Texas one two, three, four five a Ben blessing One, two, three, four, five. A Ben Blessing. That's a really interesting name.

Starting point is 03:10:46 He was Ben was a blessing. He's been a blessing all his life. He's in Lubeck, Lubeck, Deutschland. $111, $111, ITM he says. Nice. Melissa Adams in Bon Secours, Alabama, 105, I'm sure it's pronounced some other way, 105, 35. Kevin McLaughlin, there she is. There he is. John Secour, Alabama, 105, I'm sure it's pronounced some other way, 10535. Kevin McLaughlin, there she is, there he is.

Starting point is 03:11:09 He's the Archduke of Luna. Yeah, he's going to be mad at me now. You're going to make him stop donating now. You've done it. I'm not making him stop doing anything. You've donated. Well, I say she because he's always referring to boobs and this donation is no exception with 8008.

Starting point is 03:11:23 He's the Archduke Aluna we all know that of and he's a lover of American boobs. Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale Arizona 7575 Brian Beckama Henry. Brian Kaufman is not Henry Beckama in Victoria, beautiful town anyone that gets a chance to go visit Victoria, BC is dynamite. VE 7XKJ73 and his donation is 7373, a ham. No, that's no, no, no. Harry Beckham is donating on behalf of his neighbor who got his call, Victor Echo 7 X-ray

Starting point is 03:12:00 Kelo Juliet. So. I'm glad you read the note. I do. Which is, yes, Tim Gekas in Bellevue, Nebraska, in 7373. He recently passed his technician exam and we welcome him to Amateur Radio, Kilo Fox Zero, Tango India Alpha. 7373. So that's a donation people should consider if they're hams.

Starting point is 03:12:27 Or they should become hams by the way. It's not that hard. No. Especially if you're a techie. And you can talk gibberspeak with the AI. Christy Jensen in Huntington Beach, California, 6611. IYKYK. I spelled it out for you John. If you know, you know. Oh. It's the 6611 donation. Isn't that the dangling balls? Yes. Sir Don 6006. Small boobs. Dame Denise. 60. She's turning 60 on February 18th. Well, she's already

Starting point is 03:13:07 passed that date, but we'll give her a call out today. She also asked for grandbaby making karma. I will play that at the end for her. I'm sure it's not for her. She said, well, she's going to be a grandma. Oh, grandbaby. Grandbaby. Okay. She wants a grand kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They'll get it. Sir Stone, 5809. Please review and promote site if you can. Blybd.com, B-L-Y, or is it B-T-Y, B-T-Y-B-D.com.

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Starting point is 03:14:19 5510 from Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits. Also 5510 from West Stewart in Mesa, Arizona. He's the Basin of the Sun, Arizona. Sorry, my reading's off today. Scotty in Madrid, Maryland 5510. Madrid, Maryland. No, no, he's from Madrid, Spain. MD, so it's Madrid. Oh, Madrid, that's Madrid. Oh, what am I thinking? Espania, Espania. Yeah, I see the E-S, sorry. My mistake. Another Spaniard. And he says right there, not Maryland. That's funny. Now we have a

Starting point is 03:14:59 blank. I don't know. You got anything in this cell? From Lincoln, Nebraska. Anonymous, 55. No, I have nothing in the cell. Lincoln, Nebraska? No. Anonymous, 55. No, I have nothing in the cell. Sorry, whoever you are. Surprise at Newcombe, Oklahoma. We haven't heard from him for a while. 5444, Aaron Newberry in Littleton, Colorado, 5307. Claire Hedges in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.

Starting point is 03:15:19 You got that one, right? You got a birthday call out. 5272. These are all $50 donors. I'm just going to read these as 50s. These are 52.72s, but the same thing. It's just got the fees. Starting with Bruno Freitas dos Santos in San Francisco, Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina, Christopher Hodges in Union, Mississippi. Brian Belton in Ashbury, New Jersey. Katherine Diem in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Nancy Wise in Powhatan, Virginia.

Starting point is 03:15:59 Charles Tracy in Hickory, North Carolina. Sir Bix in, what is this, Frielsing, Hong Kong, is that what that is? No. HR, Hungary. Hungry, yes. And he wants a job, Skarnra, which we'll give him. Vital de la Torre Rivas. God knows where he's from, but he's not from around these parts.

Starting point is 03:16:25 5028. Uh, Alex Vidal and Pembroke Pines, Florida, Melissa Alvarez and Ponte Verde Beach. This is Vedra, I guess it's Vedra. Uh, 50, oh, it's like, that's an oddball when it's 5001. Up and back to the 50s these are all real 50s Brett Denton in Boise Idaho George Wuschett in Lavernia Texas where is that where you are I have no idea no idea Florian Enke Enke in Rutlinghausen Denmark Denmark, or Denmark, I'm sorry, Deutschland, sent an email to Adam.

Starting point is 03:17:08 I hope you responded to it. Well, I haven't seen all of my emails. She sent a very, I'm seeing it here, a very long one. And she says, big thank you for the time and effort put into the Noah Jenner Show. And I will read it and I will respond I promise. Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon, John Taylor in Florissant, Colorado, Richard Gardner, I think he's in New York, could be wrong, Joshua Baker in Wanganui. Wanganui.

Starting point is 03:17:37 Wanganui. Wanganui. Wanganui. Oh, he's the guy that becomes a knight today. Oh, there he is, no note. I'd like to be knighted. Oh, there he is. No note. I'd like to be knighted. There you go.

Starting point is 03:17:47 No note. I have no delusions of anything. I don't want to be talked about. Pseudonymity. He's just going to be Sir Joshua Baker. He's good with that. His regular name. Jules in Glendale, Arizona, 50.

Starting point is 03:18:02 He's no longer a douchebag, so we'll give him a deducing. You've been deduced. And we wrap it up with, I guess is this Joshie? Jockie? Jackie? I don't know how you pronounce this in these in, or he or she. I'd say Jackie. Jackie.

Starting point is 03:18:20 Wettler, Grandville, Michigan. Henry Keehan in Aledo, Texas, or Harry, I'm sorry. Michael Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana wraps things up. There is a note from somebody here. It came on a sheet of paper. And when people write in and drop off a check, we like to take a look at it. She's the oh this came from Denise Robertson the queen of cobalt programmer. She says for your producers that work for the USPS I have a failure and John's just send a check philosophy. I mail the card with a check in plenty of time to get my smoking hot husband's birthday on the list for two four. I've been listening intently for the donations. No happy birthday, Fred Robertson. Hope this gets to you soon. But sometimes the mail

Starting point is 03:19:11 coming from some parts of the country is a $60 donation she gave us. I think she, I think he's on today's list. Yeah, sometimes it gets slowed down. Sometimes it's pretty quick, but it comes, you eventually get it. So good for the United Postal Service. I talked to my post office workers recently about the, about the latest and they, they're not that freaked out. Oh, are you done? Have you?

Starting point is 03:19:40 Yeah, I'm through. Oh, because I actually have a clip about the United States Postal Service from our new Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick. He had some genius ideas. So the concept was I'm sitting with the president and the costs of the post office are like it loses $7 billion. And he said, can you do something with it? And I said, sure.

Starting point is 03:20:02 So I saw him the next day goes, goes, OK, what do you got? He gives me a whole 24 hours to figure it out. And I said, well, the Commerce Department does the census. And we spend $40 billion every 10 years doing the census. And that means we hire 625,000 people. And they go and they rent cars and gas, and you pay them food. And you know what they do? They go to every household in America and count the people.

Starting point is 03:20:25 What department do we already have that already employs 625,000 people, Scott Kars, already has gas, goes to every household. Can you imagine saying to your postman, can you count the people in the house? What day could he do the census? Monday? Could he double check it on Tuesday?

Starting point is 03:20:41 How about Wednesday? He goes, every day. So we can only save $40 billion or $4 billion a year, and we'll do a better job. And you know what else we could do with the post office? They can go to your house when you have a baby and give you the form for social security. And the 20,000 social security offices that we have,

Starting point is 03:20:57 we just don't need it. We actually can do real customer service. Go right to your house, someone died, here's the forms, you can fill it out, I'll bring them to your house customer service why because we've got Wow it's great of the government to make us better and save us money we can be smart you know we're loud okay United States Postal Service yeah of course none of this will ever happen in a million years, but it's a great idea. You know, Lutnick is the guy that Musk pushed to become the Commerce Secretary, Secretary of the Treasury.

Starting point is 03:21:33 Commerce, Commerce, Commerce. I think he pushed the Secretary of the Treasury and then he got bumped to Commerce by Trump. He didn't take Musk's advice on this guy, but he is a big must, a big fan of this guy. Well, it's an innovative idea. I can already see our postal workers who are big podcast listeners rolling their eyes. I'm sure they will email me. I'm sure they are. Sure they will email me.

Starting point is 03:21:56 Yeah, we'll be dropping off some forms any minute now. And before we get to our birthdays, etc. And before we get to our birthdays, etc. Pam Bondi, or no, the FBI has just released the first 22 Epstein documents, not to the M5M, but has posted it on xvault.fbi.gov slash Jeffrey dash Epstein. It's not loading for me. But apparently the first documents people are opening has all kinds of words like child prostitution in it. So we'll find out about, oh, here it is. It opened for me.

Starting point is 03:22:31 Well, now your complaint about bonding needs to be pulled back. You got to claw it back, claw back. She released something. Yep. There's something here. So yeah, it's 22 documents and it's in the FBI vault. So There'll be plenty of work to do after the show and as promised we will hand out that grand Baby making karma with little jobs added to it for other other producer jobs jobs jobs and jobs

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Starting point is 03:25:24 is a handy sizing guide right there on the website and give us an address. And as always, it comes with wax to seal your important correspondence and a certificate of authenticity. Welcome to the NoAgenda Roundtable of the Knights and Dames, Sir Joshua Baker. NoAgenda Meetups. That's right, the NoAgenda Meetups, where you get the connection that brings you protection. The people you meet at a No Agenda Meetup, which are all producer organized, will always result in the first responders you call in any emergency. And you also can have a nice beer and some snacks.

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Starting point is 03:28:25 but you will meet people that you will enjoy for the rest of your life. Noagentameetups.com. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you wanna be, trigger don't have a lame. You wanna be where you wanna be, drink it all hella lame You wanna be where everybody feels the same

Starting point is 03:28:50 It's like a party Time now in the program where we select an ISO That's a little snippet that we'll use at the end of the show I see you only have one today, that's rather surprising This is the carryover, you said I should carry this one over Ah, yes sir, you took it it easy you laid back kick back to when I'm just gonna carry this over. I'll be good to go Why just that figure to where things are going? I'm good to go But I'm not sure what should play yours and we'll find out as long as you're happy. I'm happy

Starting point is 03:29:21 That's it that's one that's one I have this one oh my god, I use it all the time now, it's so great. Too echoey. Too echoey, and then here's yours. Try and top that for a killer show. This, you're gonna have to find a new one, because this can't carry over, it's too good. It is just too good. Now ladies and gentlemen, it is time for everybody's highlight of every program, John's Tip of the Day.

Starting point is 03:29:45 All right. So, I have a habit over the years, because I cook a lot, of trying various seasonings that are produced by commercial vendors that do one thing or another. And I want to recommend one. I've recommended body as I think already, but this is one, this is kind of a Greek seasoning. This is a Greek seasoning that's not the typical Greek seasoning. And I will mention that there's a lot of these things are quite important to a lot, certain cuisines. And I will mention Tony C's for one. I'm, that's not the today's tip, but if you cook, you know,

Starting point is 03:30:39 people are saying you want to cook in Cajun style. You put some of the Cajun spicing, put some of this in. It's always Tony C's. And it comes in a green thing. Tony C's? Tony C's? Tony Catch Your Air, I think. But it's called Tony C's.

Starting point is 03:30:55 It says Tony C's. And if you don't use Tony C's or know about Tony C's, then you never cook Southern style cooking because everybody uses Tony C's. There's competitors to Tony C's. Emeril has a seasoning. Bam! That's all just fake news. Emeril is nothing close to Tony C. Well, Tony C is the stuff you want, but this is the one I'm recommending for today's show because people should already be on to Tony C's. Zeus.

Starting point is 03:31:23 Zeus. on to Tony C's. Zeus. Zeus. Z-E-U-S. This is a very interesting seasoning. It's kind of a paprika colored dark Greek type seasoning and it's pretty good on everything like hashbrown potatoes, eggs, meat, stews. It's a very good proprietary blend of seasoning that just works well with a lot of stuff. I used to buy it at the store and then all of a sudden I can't get it, I had to get it online. But some stores still carry it. Killer product. Z-E-U-S.

Starting point is 03:32:00 It's interesting. For some reason, I thought you would never be a guy that would use a Bought seasoning that you would be the kind of chef that would create his own See even emerald when he does this cooking show and other people do too They always say well, then I put in some Cajun seasoning. They're using Tony sees You always unless you want to make your own Tony sees but these guys have actually done some research So you get this much of this, this much of that. We have one of our producers produces a salt and pepper called Both. That's a salt and pepper blend. You probably have some. Yeah, he sent me some of that. This is very

Starting point is 03:32:36 interesting. It's an interesting product. And it works. It does. But it saves me time. It saves time and it's tasty and it's gone through some effort. So I've always used, I've always tried, I try these, not all of them are good. I'm saying proprietary seasonings are not a bad idea. It's a shortcut that is not cheating the way I see it. If you find a good one, use it. That both products to me. And when I saw that cause it came into the PO box, I was like, well,

Starting point is 03:33:09 why didn't someone do this much earlier? It makes so much sense. You got salt and pepper in one mix. You're good to go. That's another outstanding product. Yes. It had to take some effort because if you would mix salt and pepper yourself, it would separate. It would the pepper to go to the bottom and the salt go to the bottom. Something would happen. But he's got it so it's this exact same grind on both products. So it does even out when you use it. It's part of his proprietary process, I understand.

Starting point is 03:33:43 Yeah, right. That's what it is. All right, everybody. But anyway, no, I've always been a big fan of these things. Okay. Tony C's, everybody, that is your tip of the day. No, it's Zeus, not Tony C's. Zeus, everybody, that is your tip of the day. Find it at tipoftheday.net and noagendafund.com. Created by Dana Bernetti. Zeus.

Starting point is 03:34:11 I'm sorry, Zeus. I misunderstood the whole thing, Zeus. Yes, so, but Tony Sees is a good bet. Whoever's putting this together, add Tony Sees with the Zeus. All right, Tony Sees. A twofer. A twofer. And both.

Starting point is 03:34:24 Put both on there while you're at it. It's a good part. You could. Yep, you could. Hey, that's it for No Agenda. We went long today. Alert the affiliates. I don't know what happened. We gotta, we're out of control. We need to stop doing that. Coming up next on No Agenda's stream, if you want to stay tuned, we have the latest episode from the grumpy old dames. Lady Vox and Dameame black loka two big favorites of the the Darren O'Neill rock and roll pre-show also end of show

Starting point is 03:34:52 mixes from Lee Ola puke David Kekta and Sir Ned Wood stay tuned for that and I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And I want to remind people, I want to thank Darren O'Neill in particular for reminding us how bad guns and roses can be. I'm John C. DeVore. We'll be back on Sunday with more media deconstruction for you. Please remember us at NoAgendaDonations.com.

Starting point is 03:35:22 Until then, adios, mofos, a hooey hooey, and such. The denizens of a bar in Kyiv. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, he went to a bar and jammed with a local Ukrainian rock band. He was wearing jeans and a black shirt, because he's so cool. For a war-torn country that is facing genocidal demolition, it would be cool that he can jam and party with a bunch of people who are drinking it up. They have unlimited, they will be funded forever.

Starting point is 03:36:03 And it was obviously for the cameras. This was all planned at all stages. Who was this for, exactly? It does not send a message of desperation on the part of Ukraine. Secretary of State Blinken jamming at a bar in Kiev while you're forced to cuff up tens of billions of dollars that we don't have for the war.

Starting point is 03:36:21 There are too many failed theater kids, actors and musicians in politics. The actual band, they were told someone famous was gonna come and play with them. They were told it was Bill Young. Keep on giving aid to Ukraine. Keep on giving aid to Ukraine. I would actually, you know what? I just like you to show them that you give a damn.

Starting point is 03:36:48 That you got a little emotion about the fact that people are losing their jobs indiscriminately. You know what? It's hurting the show. They're in your bedrooms. They're in your living rooms. They're in your businesses. They got your data, dumbass. They got all your stuff. Elon Musk has his tentacles in everything you're doing, not just off of X. But now he's in the Treasury Department.

Starting point is 03:37:13 He's in the Labor Department. He's in the Department of Homeland Security. Everybody seems to be there. It's always on my mind somebody that's shown that they care enough to get off their fat ass and say something about it. It's all part of the defense of Democrats. And, of course, course is supposed to be relevant just going unhinged we've been noticing the cursing

Starting point is 03:37:50 and we had a lot of exotic damn this, damn that, off your fat ass did you hear James Carville? Welcome to the EU, there's no turning back. Give us all your gas, we will save you from that evil Ruski Putin Let me I am F.E. Putin Everybody wants to rule Ukraine There's a myth that will fly into you We're flying to you Just look out when the bombs come tumbling down When you die we'll be right behind you So sad you almost made it Too bad we had to fake it

Starting point is 03:38:59 Everybody wants to live in Ukraine Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org slash NA. Try and top that for a killer show.

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